150: I Look Forward to Ignoring Your Criticism

0:00:01ok

0:00:05the incomparable number 150 july twenty

0:00:10thirty

0:00:12it's 215 episode of the uncomfortable

0:00:15and this is where I called my panelists

0:00:19in for their there every hundred and

0:00:22fifty episodes performance review

0:00:24I'm going to be telling you what

0:00:27happened when you met and and

0:00:29expectations and where you fell down and

0:00:31did not meet my expectations and

0:00:33disappoint some of us will get a rose

0:00:35others will not

0:00:36yeah that's right i'm gonna need another

0:00:37six-pack a few of you will will be asked

0:00:41to leave the island immediately

0:00:43that's just how it has to be so I am of

0:00:46course your host for most of these

0:00:49hundred fifty episodes Jason Snelling

0:00:50let me detail the panel who is here with

0:00:52us to go through your feedback we don't

0:00:55do that usually on the episodes and I

0:00:58get into the reasons why in a little

0:00:59while but first let me introduce my

0:01:01panel you heard most of them complaining

0:01:04but when i was reading the introduction

0:01:05because they're rude and that will be

0:01:07noted on their next evaluation Steve

0:01:10let's hear hi Steve

0:01:12hey Jason how are you I'm expecting

0:01:14nothing but glowing commentary from you

0:01:16and anybody else

0:01:17yeah there might be to eat it later

0:01:19that's all I'm saying whether there will

0:01:21be some ETA by agencies trying to happen

0:01:24you just don't forget about the pictures

0:01:26yes thanks good point oh yes Steve

0:01:30you're great you're doing a fabulous job

0:01:31yeah don't syracuse also here hi john

0:01:34mason if you give me anything less than

0:01:36tens on every single item

0:01:39they're going to kill my family I've

0:01:43heard this before

0:01:44uh when i bought the car Dan Morgan is

0:01:47also here hi dan I i think i got my

0:01:49feedback when my when when Steve let my

0:01:52D&D character died

0:01:53yes I think that's how i'm taking my

0:01:54feedback wait wait I didn't let your D&D

0:01:57character died I guess I kind of did

0:01:59yeah sorry did we remember things

0:02:02differently that

0:02:03yeah that Voice you heard is serenity

0:02:04caldwell who's also here thank you

0:02:06hello hello I i will sit quietly in the

0:02:10corner

0:02:11prepare to be judged yes no the judging

0:02:13know the judging will happen on this

0:02:14side this side o prepared to judge then

0:02:17asks be prepared

0:02:19you're on that side of the judge's table

0:02:20for once plate playing the part of the

0:02:22East German judge is serenity Caldwell

0:02:24and next to her

0:02:26the also also from East Germany it's got

0:02:30Mykelti hi Scott

0:02:32uh hello I'm trying to think of

0:02:34something in German but i'm not going so

0:02:35I I froze talk about just talk about

0:02:38Hitler Scott come on that's not yeah is

0:02:42that the feedback that my family didn't

0:02:44let him watch him too many not enough

0:02:46supplements too much Hitler ironically

0:02:48Zeppelin's also German but you know

0:02:51yeah and that voice saying things in

0:02:53German is Glenn fleischmann hi Glenn

0:02:55I brought a note from my Twitter

0:02:57followers excusing me for previous

0:02:59absences and I hope that will be

0:03:00reflected in my permanent record

0:03:02where have you been clan I where have

0:03:05you been Steve when I did right here man

0:03:08how many men have you killed Steve you

0:03:10can't it's classified glam you know that

0:03:12it's true we said too much already

0:03:14ok so we don't do now John siracusa is

0:03:19here on this on this very podcast and of

0:03:22course listeners to his his other

0:03:24podcasts and podcasting previously

0:03:26didnít know that he took a lot of time

0:03:28to devote to reader feedback listener

0:03:31feedback whatever you are audience

0:03:33feedback and we don't do that so much of

0:03:36the uncomfortable and before we go into

0:03:38some of the feedback we have gotten I

0:03:39wanted to explain why the big reason is

0:03:41because we have such a large panel and

0:03:42we rotate different people through

0:03:44different episodes and also because we

0:03:46sometimes will record stuff in a dance

0:03:48and play it back out of sequence it's

0:03:51often really difficult to have any

0:03:53synchronization of feedback with the

0:03:57people who actually were on the episodes

0:03:59that you're giving feedback for and my

0:04:02example is if you're complaining about

0:04:04something that lets say Glenn said on a

0:04:08book club episode as if glenwood read a

0:04:12book uh and what I'm on about i'm on the

0:04:15comic book club with Lisa Schmeisser and

0:04:18Moises shoot too jaan we did they don't

0:04:22want to hear about Glenn and they have

0:04:23nothing to say to explain Glenn so I

0:04:27don't know one also would have to

0:04:29actually receive feedback

0:04:31well we do it we received some feedback

0:04:32and I'm sure if we we processed it in

0:04:35every episode we would receive more you

0:04:37have the other thing is that i like

0:04:38having these episodes

0:04:40be very standalone so that you can do is

0:04:42one of our listeners did recently

0:04:44Benjamin peacock who wrote to us on

0:04:48Twitter will start the feedback this way

0:04:50who said through diligence I've caught

0:04:52up on from the beginning of the

0:04:54incomparable and now i feel like a piece

0:04:56of me is missing see you can go back to

0:04:58the beginning and listen to every

0:04:59episode study it make it a part of your

0:05:01being and engine that that was your

0:05:04sanity and it was gone before you

0:05:06started and I feel like if the feedbacks

0:05:07at the beginning of the episodes then

0:05:09then you're maybe you can't just kind of

0:05:11drop in and listen to the episode that

0:05:12interest you so but we could do it at

0:05:15the end and I think about doing that

0:05:17sometimes and then we talked for an hour

0:05:18and a half and I figure we don't have

0:05:20any time for feedback so once we don't

0:05:22care what Scott doesn't kidnap me only

0:05:26the not caring yes God doesn't dozens it

0:05:29isn't interested in what other people

0:05:30have to say that's on your your your

0:05:32chart here Scott doesn't bother me

0:05:34yeah alright so let me let me go through

0:05:38some of the twitter feed back we do get

0:05:40feedback on Twitter and this of course

0:05:44the incomparable is our twitter account

0:05:46and here are some of the comments we had

0:05:49Sergio Andres castro simply said more

0:05:52siracusa John you have more to give

0:05:56I got give what i have to give i mean i

0:05:59don't i don't understand how they could

0:06:00possibly be more neon podcast at this

0:06:03point you have to read more

0:06:04thousand-page books more than like three

0:06:06of them a year to be on we already have

0:06:08two Syracuse's do you really need more

0:06:10hey was that John R daniel said that

0:06:13more & M terrible it's terrible and

0:06:18account no I'm just saying I was a

0:06:19mystery story i was actually a Dan level

0:06:21pun so i think here i'm still my god we

0:06:23have murdered

0:06:24what uh here's a good one from adam

0:06:28highland also known as the real proton k

0:06:31or as i like to say the real pro tunc

0:06:33he's not an amateur talk Jason he's a

0:06:35proton this is this is a good one it

0:06:38says can we have another Jason reads

0:06:41Twitter comments and affo stern mocking

0:06:44voice within the incomparable those are

0:06:47hilarious

0:06:48to which I say no we can't now couldn't

0:06:51afford it i'm working for this year

0:06:53though we don't want to do that Joe

0:06:56rosenstiel says that surround me the

0:06:59only game i saw Fletch that's not a real

0:07:02you know it's bert Harbinson and art

0:07:04vandelay is coming up

0:07:06he says you guys are great that's

0:07:08feedback thank you and I would like more

0:07:10nostalgic shows about old star trek

0:07:12Babylon 5 I assume you mean star trek

0:07:15Babylon 5 and thatthat's just misplaced

0:07:17island off of evidence battle on phone

0:07:19and other eighties and nineties syfy how

0:07:21about instead more nostalgia episodes

0:07:24about previous episodes in common that's

0:07:26gonna remember when he picks Skeletor

0:07:28good times

0:07:29everyone's good was good we should we

0:07:31should playing back into the violence

0:07:33huh

0:07:34the clip show where Steve remembered

0:07:36when he placed yet thanks for the

0:07:40preview of next year's Christmas tree

0:07:41every clip here whatever i remember that

0:07:43i remember next year's episode it was

0:07:45really going to be going was gonna be

0:07:46good too bad we we screwed up i think

0:07:49this is a good idea

0:07:51nostalgia you know I think one of the

0:07:52things we do really well as is talking

0:07:54about stuff from from the past I've got

0:07:56some on the schedule I've been

0:07:57threatening to do a Babylon 5 episode

0:07:59for a while now we should do to deep

0:08:00space 9 at some point for sure I'd like

0:08:03to go back and revisit the x-files which

0:08:05is having its 20th anniversary

0:08:08believe it or not and what they're doing

0:08:10a big thing at comic-con this with this

0:08:14weekend I'm amazed that it's been 20

0:08:16years and I still haven't seen an

0:08:17episode of the x-files over the transom

0:08:19true i bought you an episode of the

0:08:21x-files didn't tell me you watched that

0:08:22episode

0:08:23sure yeah Dan the truth comes out good

0:08:29that's a good episode yeah it's just s

0:08:31going on your own

0:08:32valuation you have room in your life for

0:08:33supernatural but not for the x y&z yet

0:08:36and yet and yet i have seen the movie so

0:08:39Dan Morris down is not watching shows

0:08:42that that he he should watch shame

0:08:44friend dan's lexus lexus is revealed

0:08:48bit by bit of this past several months

0:08:50there they're doing a very sort of brain

0:08:52transfer that's two or three years maybe

0:08:56I could aab brian sullivan wrote in on

0:09:00twitter that he was loving the dnd

0:09:02episodes and asked if there were any

0:09:04more planned we got we got some feedback

0:09:07there was one guy who wrote him I

0:09:08couldn't find the tweet he basically

0:09:09said that that that that he hated the

0:09:12dnd episodes and they were and he was

0:09:14very much like why are you wasting my

0:09:16time with this and I i was a long lines

0:09:18of three more hours of D&D really yeah

0:09:21it did you have to and my response was

0:09:23this one my standard response we did you

0:09:25get a full refund for what you paid for

0:09:27the podcast was traveling and and and

0:09:29you know and and to was a week where

0:09:32there was literally not going to be an

0:09:33episode so well and three were really

0:09:36sorry about the people who strap you

0:09:37down and made you listen to three hours

0:09:39until i get me haul and should call the

0:09:41police on those people the eyelid

0:09:43toothpicks are really painful they are

0:09:45part of the service and style are we

0:09:48going to do more D&D yes because I'm

0:09:52some way I think it's a lot of fun and I

0:09:54think I don't speak for everyone but i'm

0:09:55going to everybody seems everybody like

0:09:58this and help and I we've got a

0:10:02surprising amount of people who actually

0:10:04enjoy listening last watching the DFCS

0:10:07what's surprising money more than Jason

0:10:10I have something I have some feedback

0:10:12what is wrong with these people

0:10:14I'm amazed that people love the dnd

0:10:16episodes too but they seem to and I'm

0:10:18glad which is why we've always sort of

0:10:20thought of those extras because it was

0:10:22an experiment to see what if we played

0:10:24D&D together and the edited podcast

0:10:28episodes i think you're a little bit

0:10:29better we do some compression they're

0:10:30still really long but I pulled like half

0:10:32an hour of stuff out of the last one and

0:10:35it was a much you know it was a much

0:10:37tighter kind of episode you it wasn't

0:10:39there wasn't so much of that two minutes

0:10:41of somebody figuring out which dice to

0:10:43roll as

0:10:44on the live stream but the unedited was

0:10:47was was pitched as a bonus episode

0:10:49anyway yeah it was the second that weeks

0:10:51they're all they're all kind of bonus

0:10:52episodes anyway but we will do more

0:10:54right there's there's more to that

0:10:55adventure and then there's we haven't

0:10:57finished the adventure and you know if

0:10:59if the the rest of the panelists want to

0:11:01continue playing I'm happy to continue

0:11:03DME but I hope we can have a text

0:11:06episode to induce orc you know because i

0:11:08think that would be good like the like a

0:11:10book on tape

0:11:11detective enter your amazing twisty

0:11:14podcast all like all right let's go to

0:11:16Anna and idea that be a great episode

0:11:21and gee gee I I'm gonna be somebody

0:11:28please buy the mouth

0:11:30Yoho no that's a different adventure

0:11:33xyzzy pick up pick up

0:11:37yeah you have no t I Judson done says i

0:11:43love your book podcast but you should

0:11:45have fewer spoilers maybe none that

0:11:49makes difficult to talk about them then

0:11:51I could be on the book podcast without

0:11:52having read the book

0:11:53yeah we totally just talking about

0:11:55invading it's an episode where we try to

0:11:57convince john siracusa to read a book

0:11:58without without spoiling it for me take

0:12:02a look John anything that happens in the

0:12:03book in 2004 we were talking on the

0:12:05comic book club was a comic book club

0:12:08that Merlin Merlin Mann was on the first

0:12:11episode he was on anyway and we know

0:12:13yeah i was the the house of them and I

0:12:14got to the the ending we I mean we put

0:12:17the spoiler warning about two minutes in

0:12:19and he was a gas was like why you guys

0:12:20jumped the spoilers fast here and I I

0:12:22think that's always a question for us is

0:12:24when do you

0:12:25this is this the stuff we cover is

0:12:27generally not you know we're not trying

0:12:32to avoid details we want to talk about

0:12:35the details that's kind of a level at

0:12:37which we dig into stuff so it's really

0:12:38hard to figure out window below the

0:12:41spoiler horn and then honestly I always

0:12:42feel like so what are you gonna do

0:12:43you're gonna listen to 10 minutes of a

0:12:44podcast event stop and come back weeks

0:12:47later it is it's not a podcast very like

0:12:49I need people to recommend me good

0:12:51things that I should check out that's

0:12:52this is for people who already seen

0:12:55these things because they usually fairly

0:12:57popular whatever and want to hear people

0:12:58talk about them because they read them

0:13:00or watch them or whatever it's not like

0:13:02give me a list of things to read because

0:13:04yeah but everything we talked about we

0:13:06go we tell you everything about it's for

0:13:08its for people who have already seen it

0:13:10yeah i did I there was a good piece of

0:13:11feedback that said at least let us know

0:13:13if the thing you let you are talking

0:13:15about is something you liked or not so

0:13:17that we know whether we should bother to

0:13:19like not listen and watch it or read

0:13:22that we have to blow the spoiler horn

0:13:23for the podcast itself and i think you

0:13:25can pick up my beauty before the before

0:13:27the spoils everything we're going to

0:13:29tell you whether we liked the book or

0:13:30not okay it's basically just entirely

0:13:32spoiler or its this is the hypnotoad

0:13:34episode of the incomparable two hundred

0:13:36percent spoiler warning we have a very

0:13:38some very nice feedback actually

0:13:39happening live in our chat room which is

0:13:41saying first off a request to blow the

0:13:44spoiler horn during this section which i

0:13:46think is gonna obviously happen

0:13:51and then a lot of anti spoiler not not

0:13:55anti spoilers anti the concept of being

0:13:58afraid of spoilers and that you should

0:14:00just get over it and and and cara cara

0:14:04Healy says we have to fight the

0:14:05gangrenous hold that no spoilers has on

0:14:07our culture I I kind of money you know

0:14:09you should be afraid of spoilers you

0:14:11should have you should you should not be

0:14:13listening to a podcast about a movie if

0:14:15you haven't seen the movie with we could

0:14:17do a compromise we could only review

0:14:19things that are so bland and

0:14:20uninteresting there's nothing to spoil

0:14:22by spoiling them that would clearly work

0:14:25and so let me marry is definitely some

0:14:27properties that you can talk a lot about

0:14:29without spoiling major parts of it but

0:14:32the podcast be 15 minutes long

0:14:34yeah and you what you want to get into

0:14:36the nitty-gritty details like what did

0:14:38you not like about it well when the guy

0:14:40did thing and you like now we have to

0:14:42actually say what he did and why we

0:14:44didn't like it you have must my name yes

0:14:47I guess like if it's if it's a horror

0:14:49movie I understand not wanting or some

0:14:51ridiculous you know crying game like

0:14:53element you know or any M night

0:14:55Shyamalan llama Shallon and shim sham

0:14:59election shaming long he was dead the

0:15:02entire time

0:15:03Philadelphia's own Scott that's true i

0:15:06walk through one of the sets one's

0:15:07probably pages you have told that story

0:15:09but how much work that we review that we

0:15:11like it is it actually is the spoiler

0:15:14horn part actually to spoil the

0:15:16enjoyment of it does and the work how

0:15:18does it stand up because you know this

0:15:19boiler horn always ruins my enjoyment

0:15:21thanks

0:15:25you know there was that was that link

0:15:27there was going around the edge of like

0:15:28some studies showing that like well we

0:15:30did this scientific study and people

0:15:32knowing what was going to happen didn't

0:15:33it didn't ruin their enjoyment and in

0:15:35fact enhanced it slightly but i have

0:15:37i've quibbles with that study and it you

0:15:39know it's not because it's obviously

0:15:41crap no one under the conditions they

0:15:44tested its true but their conditions of

0:15:46that we're talking about it like you

0:15:48know popular movies or books or whatever

0:15:50is different than the the I don't know

0:15:52yeah also if you rely on people to

0:15:55report how they feel about something

0:15:56after the fact that itself is strange

0:15:58right all i know is i feel i feel worse

0:16:01when I know I was going to turn I have

0:16:02time if I feel much better when I'm

0:16:04pleasantly surprised and no one like him

0:16:06like Game of Thrones I didn't know what

0:16:08was going to happen at the end of this

0:16:09current season and i'm glad you and I

0:16:11feel like I enjoyed it more yeah but

0:16:13John you would you would come if you

0:16:15listen to if you're specifically seeking

0:16:16out a show about a game of thrones and

0:16:19it was about the current season you can

0:16:20watch it you would not listen episode

0:16:22right now I just because this episode is

0:16:24incomparable that I still haven't

0:16:25listened to because I say oh I might

0:16:27want to i might want to check that out

0:16:28so I don't saving them for after i read

0:16:31it or what I think I think it is a

0:16:32common incumbent upon the person who

0:16:34wants to avoid the spoilers to actively

0:16:36avoid them I'm not going to

0:16:38yes no sense whether that's why the

0:16:40spoiler horn he exists is that final

0:16:43it's a free license agreement it's the

0:16:46way okay we're gonna ruin things now so

0:16:48you really are you sure you really

0:16:49really sure that makes sense because

0:16:51then everybody's click through it

0:16:52without actually reading it exactly that

0:16:54explains why they keep gates well

0:17:00it's all the information you need but

0:17:02whatever brandon minutes set just sent a

0:17:05tweet that said well I love the drafts

0:17:07we need to do a villains draft

0:17:09yes villains don't get along though so

0:17:11much so I don't know how we would do

0:17:13that and still I don't know what I'm

0:17:15saying someone like they got like a club

0:17:17League of yeah but yeah they play poker

0:17:19sometimes even going to create a leak

0:17:22village in burien lion together and

0:17:24wouldn't disintegrate a week or two

0:17:26it's generally unity alright i'll put

0:17:28that on the list we've got a lot of we

0:17:30got some I've got a little list in the

0:17:31back of my mind of various drafts we can

0:17:33do i love the drafts 2 i'd like to do a

0:17:35couple of drafts yes you can do the all

0:17:37super intelligent 18 but not completely

0:17:39my strategy yes the land is announcing a

0:17:41new magazine for apes the senior girls

0:17:44in a poorly for discriminating games

0:17:47yeah well it comes out twice a year but

0:17:49they're not there they're smart for apes

0:17:51they don't notice because that is my

0:17:54friends will be really pissed off when

0:17:56they find it's been written by monkeys

0:17:58along exactly haha ho-ho you bastard you

0:18:01did it

0:18:01they blew it up pierre-luc Kanye rights

0:18:06who is your favorite member of the

0:18:08incomparable crew now let's see some

0:18:10heartbreak

0:18:11Scott Scott doesn't care either way wait

0:18:14this is also because we're all just

0:18:15gonna name ourselves i think i think it

0:18:17was meant for all of us

0:18:19oh dear this is this is very partisan

0:18:21will have to write the names down and

0:18:22put them in a hat or something you know

0:18:23my favorite Steve lots i'm sorry

0:18:25everybody else he picks skillet or sony

0:18:2820 that's two votes these lines wins the

0:18:31microchip with you eat it Steve you can

0:18:39pay me later see and it somebody writes

0:18:43in to us every now and then Janice in

0:18:46Georgia very nice note she says she

0:18:48doesn't have enough geeky friends in

0:18:50real life listening to the smart and

0:18:51witty folks on the podcast helps fill

0:18:53that void thanks so much and thank you

0:18:55to Janice very nice thank you

0:18:58well about void filling here yep Wow

0:19:06i'm still gonna lose out to Stephen

0:19:08favorite panel of thing but at least I'm

0:19:10a clown laughs oh hey this might be one

0:19:11of Glen are particularly bad that's

0:19:13what's this

0:19:15if you get it right spontaneous labor

0:19:18what's that what's that what's that

0:19:21all right here now i'm going to move on

0:19:24to some emails that we got uh which this

0:19:29this first email is is almost certainly

0:19:32a fake haha it's a fake that will how

0:19:38old are you people that you think 50

0:19:40years old and infirm I'm 46 and an

0:19:44international competitor in Brazilian

0:19:46jiu-jitsu and I reckon motorcycle from

0:19:48New York to LA every other summer I

0:19:50think 50 is near the peak of overall

0:19:52competence and capability of one keeps

0:19:54in shape than 25 is and how old is

0:19:56Wolverine in the comics he's always

0:19:58looked to be in his forties to me so I'm

0:20:00not a current reader

0:20:01okay i have 300 okay I have to go change

0:20:04my depends adult diaper and take a nap

0:20:06now

0:20:06oh and I like that guy English I didn't

0:20:09catch his first name i'm assuming Merlin

0:20:13wrote that yeah it's possible he's 52 we

0:20:17say something bad about old people I

0:20:19didn't remember constantly but we

0:20:21usually better selves not you young

0:20:23person we did guy English in his orderly

0:20:25young prince his appearance we I think

0:20:27was when we we said something about old

0:20:29people but we were we were gonna we were

0:20:31being serious about it we were all my

0:20:33feeling that 50 years old and infirm

0:20:35came from our game show episode

0:20:37wow we're Team old display feeling more

0:20:40than be blessed as lost as a lost all

0:20:43feeling in his extremities but he just

0:20:45couldn't talk about just gel but

0:20:47couldn't remember that resident yeah I'm

0:20:50angry about something but hey remember

0:20:52what is gonna lose my mute button on

0:20:54skype % sure that wasn't a senior

0:20:58moments leave i think i've tried restore

0:21:00got and we talking about memory pills

0:21:04and I was saying my dog my view that 50

0:21:07years old and infirm came from the game

0:21:09show episode

0:21:10oh yes you're going to die on hold yeah

0:21:12your team wants to think and is it

0:21:15definitively there that were old as my

0:21:17point

0:21:17yeah yeahs ago although some of that was

0:21:20the clear ageism on display by the

0:21:21judges yes whoohoo indeed would have

0:21:25also been on Team old so funny how that

0:21:28is self-loathing

0:21:29yeah I guess so like I said we'll have

0:21:31to do another game show episode 2 that's

0:21:32another thing that people have asked for

0:21:34that we should do

0:21:35it's just a lot of work that's what my

0:21:37part

0:21:39dan dan if you want to invent a game

0:21:41show episode that would how I i wanted

0:21:43to do 14 for several years i'm just i'm

0:21:45lazy

0:21:46yeah see that's my problem we gotta find

0:21:48some people in here who have initiative

0:21:50and energy so before we go on I I i

0:21:54actually did receive a few notes about

0:21:56people who are very excited that we had

0:21:57sponsors on the podcast because because

0:22:01they they want to support our podcast

0:22:04and they had no sponsors to support and

0:22:06now they do have a few and segue into a

0:22:09span and that's and that's why based on

0:22:12your feedback i'd like to tell you again

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0:22:25you're related to Glenn now where's the

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0:22:30Glenn I i found actually a ton of

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0:22:34ahead and login for a while they've

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0:22:38people find need to get back to and see

0:22:40maybe second or third cousin silly fun

0:22:42that's how we found out Glen was really

0:22:44a dude right yeah guys are mad I spoiler

0:22:47that science

0:22:50yeah I found mine when I found a think

0:22:53there's a second and third cousin that

0:22:55they haven't responded to me yet but and

0:22:56i found several third or fourth cousins

0:22:59and lots of interesting information so

0:23:01one of the things you can do is you can

0:23:02see there's a relative finder that will

0:23:05tell you you know these various people

0:23:06who are your who your cousin's just

0:23:09based entirely on a DNA match but then

0:23:10there are places to put in like family

0:23:12names and you can do a match search for

0:23:14names that are in your family among your

0:23:16relatives and then and then sort of

0:23:17figure out how you're related

0:23:19plus there are medical reports you can

0:23:22get information about your what part of

0:23:25the world your ancestry is from so for

0:23:27me it's all it's all Europe for my for

0:23:30my wife it's a half sort of like Western

0:23:33European and half Ashkenazi which is

0:23:35appropriate because your mother is

0:23:37Jewish in her father's family is from

0:23:39France so it makes perfect sense there's

0:23:43there's medical stuff they do a lot of

0:23:44surveys as I've railed about on this on

0:23:48this podcast many times cilantro the

0:23:51menace that infests all mexican food

0:23:54cilantro is great but he doesn't the

0:23:56worst and and you know why it's because

0:23:58in my jeans make me hate cilantro it's

0:24:01not it's not me Steve and Jason just how

0:24:04much genetic material you have to

0:24:06produce for this 23andme you know i'm

0:24:08i'm glad you asked if there's a very

0:24:10small tube that you have to spit in its

0:24:13it's not a single lookie i would say

0:24:15it's sort of like to Lucas worth is it a

0:24:18series of two services just was just a

0:24:21single tube and you spit in the tube and

0:24:23then you close it up and mail it back to

0:24:2523 meat comes in your kit for ninety

0:24:27nine dollars you get that you get the to

0:24:29be spit in it and then there's a little

0:24:31mailer and you send it back to them and

0:24:33a couple-week don't don't spit in the

0:24:35mailer don't spit in the mail or where

0:24:37you can examine what it was intended to

0:24:39netflix and don't set it to the attacks

0:24:41no yeah i got my netflix in 23andme

0:24:43mixed out it's not good i spit in a tube

0:24:45just this morning at $99 I could be

0:24:48finding out all sorts of interesting

0:24:49things about my dad's right

0:24:50imagine that here's the thing i

0:24:53discovered which is I did this a few

0:24:54years ago when they had a special before

0:24:55it was nine dollars and paid somewhat

0:24:58more and it turns out they can do more

0:24:59tests now and I could send another 24

0:25:02and I

0:25:02sucks they keep all my current

0:25:04information and i'll update it with

0:25:05anything do they find out which is best

0:25:07of all we could just clone Glenn now

0:25:08that's right all my information

0:25:10well everything I say and do is online

0:25:12already so you can just load that into a

0:25:13simple electronic brain and we're also i

0:25:16thought you were going to say that they

0:25:17capture spit on five weird thing would

0:25:18be that the to glens wouldn't actually

0:25:20know each other

0:25:21ironically antique limb and letting you

0:25:24know

0:25:24also you can find out if you're related

0:25:25to nobody which is really crazy that's

0:25:27that's if you may be an alien or or a

0:25:31mutant of some sort

0:25:32you were produced when somebody spat in

0:25:34a tube gonna check if you have a belly

0:25:38button that's a good first

0:25:39that's right that's a0 thing on the back

0:25:41of my neck it's been oh my god so I you

0:25:43know I this is something that i bought

0:25:45in december and I'm enjoying it a lot

0:25:48and it's it's sort of got me interested

0:25:50in tracking down some of these relatives

0:25:52and and also learning more about my

0:25:53various medical predispositions and it's

0:25:56a lot of fun and used to cost hundreds

0:25:58of dollars and now it's ninety-nine

0:26:00dollars and I think there are actually

0:26:02discounts if you if you buy more than

0:26:06one at a time to have your various

0:26:08family members tested and it's pretty

0:26:12cool so 23andme calm / incomparable $99

0:26:17pretty cool information if you're

0:26:20interested in your your background your

0:26:23health and your relatives and you may

0:26:24find somebody you may find your related

0:26:27to Glenn it's it could happen but I'm

0:26:30going to see how related to every couple

0:26:31panelists and i'll post that on the

0:26:33website so good

0:26:34yes we know why you have tennis elbow

0:26:35then i will send you to but my spit

0:26:40yeah but will be delightful little

0:26:42treasure it always but no return address

0:26:44so you have to wonder who spit is this

0:26:47is everybody said yeah we're all sending

0:26:49glands believe that's a police song is a

0:26:51hundred thousand no wait a second that's

0:26:53that every spit-take you make so they're

0:26:56Thank You 223 me and it's an advantage

0:26:59thanks 23andme random random moving

0:27:02Brando menu alright 23andme in the

0:27:04chatroom says we need to be where the

0:27:06infinite lending loop if we clone Glenn

0:27:08that's right we'll all true

0:27:10true what you mean it's gonna get more

0:27:12infinite glad it

0:27:16times infinity right i have missed

0:27:18waking glad so you know so much

0:27:20that's not here not here for your

0:27:22pleasure going to know a person i'm

0:27:23changing my vote cleanse cleanse my

0:27:25favorite your letter we do oh just

0:27:27cancelled around like get a ruling

0:27:29election all over again because I'm

0:27:32gonna shoot a realist say cheese

0:27:36I here's a letter from Katie Derek who

0:27:39says i'm a huge fan of the show for all

0:27:41but i want to give you a specific thank

0:27:42you yesterday after a headache inducing

0:27:44day at work I came home and listen to

0:27:46the to Phantom Menace episodes within 15

0:27:49minutes I was weeping with laughter and

0:27:50had to turn off the stove to wipe my

0:27:52eyes and compose myself before finishing

0:27:54dinner you really outdid yourselves in

0:27:56those episodes and I felt so much better

0:27:57afterward and into today thanks for

0:27:59being awesome from not the first ever

0:28:02heard certainly done that have made

0:28:04people weep so that just this is why you

0:28:07can't listen to us here driving joy joy

0:28:09I know he's enjoy a shocking we've been

0:28:12almost burned themselves are turning

0:28:13trash into joy usually it's dan sponge

0:28:16making people cry and which me down

0:28:18that's what I'm going for I'm looking

0:28:19for people driving off the road i want a

0:28:21better with people saying with drove off

0:28:22the road yes that's you know but I

0:28:24appreciate it almost drove on the role

0:28:26play not written while driving off there

0:28:28one of these days we're gonna get the

0:28:29letter that that that's going to say I

0:28:31did drive off the road and don't feel

0:28:33terrible now there's a lawsuit burning

0:28:36down the house is almost as good

0:28:38yeah the song by with a madness now put

0:28:41out of the book are my head's fighting

0:28:44fire with fire

0:28:45no bull yeah I let's see next next note

0:28:50this is this a good one

0:28:52this is this is a i'm not going to read

0:28:55this one this this is nick do good for

0:28:59us

0:29:00Nick Richter Rodian with some detailed

0:29:03additional thoughts he had about how

0:29:07empty the the USS vengeance is in star

0:29:10trek into darkness

0:29:11it's really i know it's really empty and

0:29:15then he also has a theory about now

0:29:17empty couldn't about check of none more

0:29:20empty

0:29:20hello about how check of being given a

0:29:23red shirt and put

0:29:24down engineering might be a nod to the

0:29:26fact that Khan in Star Trek to says

0:29:28recognizes check out even though check

0:29:30out wasn't on the ship and the theory

0:29:31was that he was down in engineering when

0:29:34he was really just not on the show yet

0:29:35and strangely enough that's the second

0:29:37craziest theory of her this week the

0:29:38first one being that one about all the

0:29:40pixar movies are created are related

0:29:41that was crazy Glo second i'll close

0:29:44second yeah so thanks to have way too

0:29:47much time on their hands evidenced by

0:29:50episode number 150 yeah here's a so yes

0:29:53my using this Gary Rogers wrote in and I

0:29:56like this one thank you so much told me

0:29:57uncomfortable host for inviting me to

0:29:59your cocktail party every week but

0:30:01there's cocktails I listen to a lot of

0:30:03you been holding out on me I wasn't a

0:30:05lot of you about about techie sorts of

0:30:08things but listen to the geeky things is

0:30:10the highlight of my podcast listening

0:30:11week and this gave me an idea for an

0:30:12episode i wrote down on it in a note pad

0:30:15oxide wrote down cocktail party episode

0:30:17and i'm not sure what the real guns are

0:30:19we all getting drunk i was thinking like

0:30:21it i would i would mandate that we all

0:30:23like bring food and and and drinks and

0:30:26hors I don't even a little coming in

0:30:27microphones just goes great together

0:30:29with the distributed pot lockers and

0:30:31then I'll aii delay in some like

0:30:33background ways to make it sound like we

0:30:35were all the cocktail party but like i

0:30:36said it's a working idea people feast

0:30:39yeah I see what else what else I have

0:30:43mark reichert road in a little while ago

0:30:46about actually parking back forty eight

0:30:49episodes to Princess Indiana Jones and

0:30:52he basically was agreeing with what

0:30:55serenity said about uh about a Cora and

0:31:01avatar the last airbender and demanding

0:31:04that we do an episode about avatar the

0:31:06last airbender which is not the M night

0:31:08Shyamalan movie which was terrible who

0:31:09now I would be up for an avatar episode

0:31:12that would be a lot of fun i have slowly

0:31:14gotten people around me I made and watch

0:31:17it I made lots of people watching I've

0:31:18seen is quite good actually yeah people

0:31:21look at it on its face and say

0:31:22nickelodeon cartoon no I don't want to

0:31:25watch that that's dumb and then you get

0:31:28strangely hooked X probably get my kids

0:31:32to watch it and if they watch it then

0:31:33i'll watch it with them John you'd like

0:31:35it its it's very time you really like it

0:31:37you can if you're gonna give your kids

0:31:39some media site unseen what if it's like

0:31:41a cow and I got ours prequel kind of

0:31:43deal i'll check it out but you for my

0:31:46kid I had my son watch future boy conan

0:31:48on the recommendation of a listener and

0:31:51that listeners dead now you have and

0:31:54what is that the Iron Man Thing has

0:31:56anyone seen the new like cg-animated

0:31:58ironman associated thing I die I saw it

0:32:02linked because I why i started watching

0:32:04the the new spiderman cartoon that they

0:32:07have on to and they mention the Iron Man

0:32:091 internet I think there's a lot of

0:32:11there's a lot of Marvel cartoons out

0:32:12there all of a sudden yeah i like the

0:32:13spectacular but no ultimate spider-man

0:32:15it's their fault inspiron it's alright

0:32:17it's a little cartoony for my taxes but

0:32:19I didn't want to hear my question still

0:32:21stands still burns does it haha i

0:32:25haven't listened to that episode because

0:32:26i haven't seen iron man 3 it's okay to

0:32:28have spoiled you either superhero draft

0:32:30is what I just assume Steve met because

0:32:32he got passed over for for being iron

0:32:34man Robert Downey jr. got that part of

0:32:37that is I didn't lie detection is in the

0:32:39superhero draft i was there Jason come

0:32:41on i wasn't the let's see i thought this

0:32:46little Kyle i.d.s I think or dese des

0:32:50let's say says totally agree with you

0:32:52about origin stories they're dull and

0:32:54mostly unnecessary and for some reason

0:32:56we're forced to sit through them they're

0:32:58also weirdly specific to the superhero

0:32:59genre and I hard they don't feel the

0:33:01need to start the story with John

0:33:02between deciding to become a cop at age

0:33:0440 diehard was his origin story he was a

0:33:07plain old guy and how did he become a

0:33:10hero

0:33:10I just like the idea of four-year-old

0:33:12son but claimed flashbacks that's pretty

0:33:14funny

0:33:14yippie kai a mom yeah I think lead a I

0:33:19think well that will change his mind

0:33:21when we do the incomparable origin story

0:33:24welcome to the party to me birthday

0:33:29come out to the coast will have you left

0:33:31here so runcorn wrote in to say in

0:33:35defense of Man of Steel didn't saw its

0:33:38terraforming device cause even more

0:33:39destruction than the cat whatever I why

0:33:42we read these

0:33:43take your feedback but actually this is

0:33:47the part of runs letter that i really

0:33:48love which is how do you guys find the

0:33:51time to watch and read all this stuff

0:33:52you might want to do a podcast on time

0:33:55management

0:33:57I think it's not watching and reading is

0:33:59the podcasting with a comb and the

0:34:01podcasting takes a lot of time it's my

0:34:04third podcast today

0:34:05wow i knows it's pretty hardcore lot of

0:34:09podcasts humblebrag send help please

0:34:14I've been strapped to this microphone

0:34:15for six hours that is it that is a

0:34:17challenge that when some of the

0:34:18suggestions that I've gotten four

0:34:20episodes are really great and I think to

0:34:22myself you know like the people who are

0:34:24like you shouldn't do it at the wheel of

0:34:25time we love times like wow I haven't

0:34:28read any of those and so if I were to

0:34:32host an episode like that it would be

0:34:34several years and huge amounts of time

0:34:37before I would feel qualified which is

0:34:39why I I won't do that someone else could

0:34:43one of one of my compatriots here if

0:34:46they wanted to do an episode about it

0:34:47but that it's a challenge for some of

0:34:48this stuff where people say even for the

0:34:50classic movies you know you can't you

0:34:53can't just do it off the top of your

0:34:55head you really need to go back and

0:34:56watch it it can be a challenge to find

0:34:59topics and I mean I think it's great

0:35:01that we've been doing this for three

0:35:02years now and and haven't completely run

0:35:05out of things to talk about my god it's

0:35:07been three years coming up LC c nice see

0:35:11well as we go into the to wait for three

0:35:14years is a hundred and fifty-six and

0:35:17this is episode 150 so interesting i

0:35:20find it funny because i can i can track

0:35:23and comparable episodes based on what i

0:35:25was hired at mac roles because the first

0:35:27incomparable up so it happened the week

0:35:29that I was moving out to San Francisco

0:35:30so it's a it's weird like dual

0:35:34anniversary

0:35:35well not related not related completely

0:35:40unrelated but it's still just so

0:35:41happened

0:35:42yeah and now you're back in boston where

0:35:45it's hot it's true it's very hot here

0:35:48until we can't do a podcast on heat no

0:35:50unless it's the movie in which context

0:35:53narrows with it why not

0:35:55except for Jason about an hour about he

0:35:57ya Mick Devlin road into say more

0:36:00science fiction book reviews please we

0:36:02have a book club we got it we were

0:36:04greeted like takes away for that you'd

0:36:06love to hear that you go episode they're

0:36:08gonna be five books in there and he

0:36:12suggests stephen baxter and Peter F

0:36:13Hamilton and more neal stephenson which

0:36:16i think i've got some Neal Stephenson on

0:36:17the list

0:36:18we've got to do a podcast on the diamond

0:36:20age because Dan is yet to read it and

0:36:22it's a wonderful book and I was saving

0:36:24it

0:36:25great book that's good read them read

0:36:27and read and read almost everything

0:36:29everything I've read almost everything

0:36:31else Jake pawn right rights and say I've

0:36:35been told from an old boss that in order

0:36:36to get smart surround yourself with

0:36:38smart people also it helps that it's

0:36:41that the uncomfortable is incredibly

0:36:42geeky show I feel smarter listening to

0:36:44the show it's also ridiculously

0:36:45entertaining it certainly ridiculous

0:36:47will say that I think he needs to find

0:36:49smarter people than not I feel a lot

0:36:51dumber being on the show so maybe it's a

0:36:53through the looking-glass kind of thing

0:36:55I saw the tweet about people complaining

0:36:56about the dungeons and dragons episode

0:36:57i've enjoyed all the episodes i thought

0:36:59the first one was a great way to fill a

0:37:01long night of full finger on creepy guy

0:37:04came over to my little-ass vs. Mordechai

0:37:07precious that tagline is going on the

0:37:09web yeah absolutely that's going on the

0:37:10t-shirt man please keep up what you're

0:37:13doing i look forward to other sponsors

0:37:16see so I can support the great working

0:37:18great entertainment also liked Jason

0:37:19Justin sponsors like Jason buys with

0:37:23Syracuse's to get I think you mean Scott

0:37:25McNulty he tells me what you read

0:37:28i'm the owner of the neck version of the

0:37:29hugo awards books a member of goodreads

0:37:31enjoyed the heck out of the rooks oh

0:37:32thank you for all the hard work

0:37:34thanks Jane oakbrook was no I

0:37:35recommendation siracusa yeah i know that

0:37:39no question that was asked of me felt

0:37:40either look at how many people can be

0:37:42confused with on this podcast all of

0:37:44them just circus and I want to confuse

0:37:47me with Glenn yeah one day we'll get

0:37:50confused will say that a long night of

0:37:52folding the laundry was probably my

0:37:53favorite queen album

0:37:55yeah it was a little was a double-up

0:37:57wasn't i think so i was a triple but but

0:38:00here we are

0:38:02eugene o'neill version of it

0:38:05Todd country here's here's the best

0:38:08letter that we received this from Karen

0:38:11Healy dear mr. snow i should do this in

0:38:15that voice right I really should i right

0:38:17to complain about your podcast in too

0:38:19big for mercy

0:38:20I have been an unwilling listening for

0:38:22several years now i have chosen to

0:38:24suffer largely in silence with the

0:38:26exception of the occasional

0:38:27passive-aggressive tweet of complaint

0:38:28but i confess i can stand it no longer

0:38:31you and your minions have made my life a

0:38:34living hell

0:38:35each week a new episode of the

0:38:36incomparable forces its way into my

0:38:38itunes folder and from there onto my

0:38:40phone then with the inevitability of

0:38:43death but a suddenness that somehow

0:38:45always manages to shock i hear the black

0:38:48helicopters overhead this is losing me

0:38:50here

0:38:51the men and the flak jackets and tinted

0:38:52full-face helmets to send on the ropes

0:38:54sees me and clamp the headphones on

0:38:57I do not allow tar or how they find me

0:38:59they never speak so I'm pretty sure one

0:39:01of them is McNulty take that me know

0:39:06they push the play button another our

0:39:07suffering begins it was not always like

0:39:10this once i listened voluntarily hook

0:39:12but what I think everyone agrees is your

0:39:14masterpiece the famous episode 22

0:39:16Stephen Fry does not appear

0:39:18sadly the production quality and

0:39:20professionalism displayed in that

0:39:22episode did not appear again by the time

0:39:26I realized this your iron fist descended

0:39:28and I was trapped by now dread every

0:39:29aspect of the show from the primal whale

0:39:32the spoiler horn

0:39:37the unhelpfully reasonable Lisa

0:39:39Schmeisser from the irritatingly young

0:39:41serenity Caldwell to the host himself

0:39:43whose quote genial Californian stick

0:39:46barely concealed the power crazed

0:39:48lunatic within well that's the shit i

0:39:51will not even mention the terrifying

0:39:53monologues blend fleischmann whom I knew

0:39:55in college in incidentally what its

0:39:59lending he was going either he's putting

0:40:00or the wholly inappropriate Steve let's

0:40:03that's what's on my business cards worst

0:40:05in saddest of all are the two John

0:40:06Syracuse's the first familiar to

0:40:08everyone is impressively expert across a

0:40:11range of domains the second emerges

0:40:13presumably only when the medication is

0:40:15worn off

0:40:15he sounds the same but he goes by a

0:40:17different name and has a different set

0:40:18of views entirely it was a sad

0:40:22indictment of our societies lack of care

0:40:23for its most vulnerable members that

0:40:25John siracusa / dan morgan is allowed to

0:40:28wander in the community at well like

0:40:29some kind of new england natalie portman

0:40:31/ keira knightley who can tell you can

0:40:34should be ashamed god that sounds my

0:40:36life sound more glamorous if only if

0:40:39only so please I entreat you know more

0:40:41call off your thugs release me from this

0:40:43nightmare and stop forcing me to listen

0:40:44to your show in the meantime I think

0:40:45it's time you let Stephen Hawking

0:40:47contribute more than just the opening

0:40:48tag line

0:40:49surely he's earned it yours sincerely

0:40:51Karen ely 92 Kieran Healy finally

0:40:55someone recognizes my contribution to

0:40:57this ammeter outfit

0:40:59nicely done can you do that again with

0:41:02Irish accent here if you could only see

0:41:04their lips you would easily be able to

0:41:06tell Dan and John apart if you I mean if

0:41:10you could only see our lips yeah like

0:41:12just the lips like I cut like icon

0:41:14O'Brien thing

0:41:15yeah that's exactly a clutch cargo and

0:41:19if we dress them both up like like

0:41:21Amidala could we tell them apart and

0:41:24yeah I think we have to find out i think

0:41:27we have to do that at some point i mean

0:41:30i am well versed in effect stage makeup

0:41:32that could have been our comic-con thing

0:41:33that you know i would be dressing like

0:41:35John circus i'm cosplaying syracuse ugh

0:41:37i'm going to get my horizontally striped

0:41:39rugby shirt and then John and dan can go

0:41:42as Amidala and the the bodyguard double

0:41:46which is witch who is the body garden

0:41:49who is Amidala we will be able to tell

0:41:50I mean you make it sound like I don't

0:41:52just wear that stuff all the time I mean

0:41:54come on

0:41:55yeah i think i'm wearing right now Dylan

0:41:58geo veneto wrote in and said love the

0:42:01show guys dig the movie episodes

0:42:03maybe we could have a fan boat voted

0:42:05movie to be reviewed

0:42:07I also the fan now that's how traps

0:42:09happen the fantasy draft episodes are

0:42:11simply amazing

0:42:12may I suggest a fictional vehicle

0:42:14episode DeLorean vs enterprise vs TARDIS

0:42:17princes death star who vs james bond car

0:42:20could be fun that's nice idea why

0:42:23waiting forever

0:42:24save it save us two rounds we could get

0:42:26have a pocket yeah I don't know know

0:42:28there's Herbie the Love Bug swimmin

0:42:30oh my god and skeletor is a great space

0:42:34together with van he didn't really have

0:42:36a steed I think beast man had something

0:42:38that Skeletor was he also just walked

0:42:40yeah yeah but later he's a public

0:42:42transport guy I think Skeletor sessions

0:42:45we have that big hit a big purple cat

0:42:47skeleton on the bus didn't even I don't

0:42:50think he had a cat i'm pretty sure who I

0:42:52added wasn't the big purple you don't

0:42:54have a battle cat and I think he was

0:42:55baked right and there's the same mold as

0:42:57battle cat but i had purple belt on it i

0:42:59think i had i really should know this

0:43:00but you're indicating commercial come on

0:43:02I didn't make the toy just held it for a

0:43:05while he's got a tank that looks like a

0:43:07shark guys come on i had that actually i

0:43:10forgot about him on the chat room needs

0:43:11to know the name of that purple come

0:43:13here and Healy just said that he was

0:43:14trying to do a flophouse feedback

0:43:17survive in his letter which is good

0:43:19you know John do you want to sing a

0:43:21little uh uncomfortable feedback episode

0:43:25theme song for me

0:43:26ally Elliot kalyan on the flophouse

0:43:28wonder we can get him on here

0:43:30oh man those guys really know they're

0:43:32geeky media to know I'm going on here to

0:43:36shame them for not knowing things so

0:43:38they know they know comments at

0:43:40cyclopedia knowledge of invisible maniac

0:43:42and Castle freak is not there comes

0:43:44another comment here their comics and we

0:43:46actually know about comics I don't

0:43:47matter

0:43:47no anything like oh yeah maybe that

0:43:49maybe they're about to drop some obscure

0:43:50couple we get a lot of people on the

0:43:52show by threatening to shame them i

0:43:53think that's really one of our core

0:43:55competency and comparable feedback

0:43:57episode like a hundred percent more

0:44:00shaming people can do you got Jason

0:44:04utilize 10 more minutes I i have pandora

0:44:08school tours evil feline companion go of

0:44:11course reading your letters and reading

0:44:13your tweets it's too comfortable hey but

0:44:16the show right all right keep it as fair

0:44:18use we don't you know

0:44:19all right LT doesn't actually care

0:44:23Wow uh we have a nice letter that i

0:44:25can't read all of because it's very long

0:44:27from etienne block i'm going to say from

0:44:30South Africa who says the geek community

0:44:34is very small in South Africa it's very

0:44:35hard to find a group of people to walk

0:44:38out of man of steel and argue its merits

0:44:40and or demerits is the case may be and

0:44:45then he was very happy to discover the

0:44:46podcast and he i'm gonna guess but it

0:44:49could be here she I don't I really don't

0:44:51know and it in the letter continues what

0:44:55makes this podcast really enjoyable is

0:44:56that one clear get the fact that all the

0:44:58panelists are friends and know each

0:45:00other that labels and preferences for

0:45:03dan I say everybody's enemy everybody's

0:45:08just a robot that we you know made to

0:45:10talk a lot sad when hotel room across

0:45:13robot dan going to get his cardboard oil

0:45:16cross-dressing robot by the enclosing as

0:45:19you approach the hundred fifty episode

0:45:20mark allow me to say thank you for the

0:45:22work time Karen enthusiasm put into the

0:45:23incomparable congratulations on a job

0:45:25well done also i will play pay good

0:45:28money for a shirt that says eat it smell

0:45:30nice shirt actually say that outline a

0:45:34little but not hear something soon yo

0:45:38and comfortable merchandise will be

0:45:39where we're going to try to do some

0:45:42later this year

0:45:43robot t-shirt coming through i'm

0:45:46available for voiceover work

0:45:48ok I this this one I'm gonna I'm gonna

0:45:51try to get this this letter this letter

0:45:53writer following the Syracuse and

0:45:55protocol said I'm a pronunciation guide

0:45:58so we're going to say

0:46:00anirudh

0:46:01contour I think any road contour he

0:46:05didn't tell me how to pronounce his last

0:46:06name any Ruth any rude

0:46:09well hit he said it was sunny Ruth and

0:46:11then I looked on the youtube link that

0:46:13he sent and it's on your route so I

0:46:15don't even know I'm gonna go with Baby

0:46:17Ruth Baby Ruth thank you baby room i

0:46:22tweeted asking you guys to do a matrix

0:46:24episode and you said it was on the list

0:46:25two years since that tweet I've enjoyed

0:46:26every episode i have listened to and

0:46:29still eagerly await the matrix episode

0:46:31everything you think we get you to keep

0:46:32coming back it's on the list its I swear

0:46:34it's still on the list it's almost never

0:46:36do a major ski showed because he will

0:46:38immediately stop listening

0:46:39exactly that's it that's the best that

0:46:41area dangling out there the matrix

0:46:43episode will be our last episode I

0:46:45thought we put on the list we switched

0:46:47being in the matrix so actually the

0:46:48listener has been the matrix the whole

0:46:50time and only five minutes has passed in

0:46:52his real life I'm waiting for the lake

0:46:54house at present i know some people who

0:46:57would be on that lake house episode

0:47:00alright and have one more email hear

0:47:02this from eric critically erik

0:47:04christensen whoo-hoo starts with minor

0:47:07criticism he said a few episodes seem to

0:47:10be everywhere except no greater seem to

0:47:11be a thread of everyone that disagrees

0:47:13with my opinion is irrational like dance

0:47:16very irrational critics even when I

0:47:19agree with your opinion I was a little

0:47:20turned off by that seemed out of step

0:47:21with the usual and comfortable ride and

0:47:23kind of reminded me of the Avengers

0:47:24episode to burn never bring up the

0:47:30Avengers have a social life company

0:47:32exnay on the vengers a yeah and then

0:47:36event will be adventures way come on

0:47:38Dino flattened i dunno my pigment fluent

0:47:41four years of high school I think I

0:47:43would know pig let me come right and

0:47:45then he said nice things about more

0:47:47comic book stuff and adding in moist s

0:47:49and Merlin and doing the wrinkle in time

0:47:51episode he thought was great and the

0:47:53drafts are always great

0:47:55so that's good so what I'm hearing is

0:47:57were great

0:47:58yes I look forward to ignore your

0:48:00Christmas all right I'm gonna move on to

0:48:06the itunes reviews and this is this

0:48:08no no no no what are you thinking this

0:48:10is great

0:48:11Jason holding down John love

0:48:13was uh through this because this also

0:48:15allows us to say hey maybe you could

0:48:17review review the show on iTunes and i'm

0:48:20going to actually announce now a contest

0:48:22all my ring that previously

0:48:24letter-writer suggested that we could

0:48:27have a poll of of a movie that we could

0:48:31do an episode about I'm gonna do you one

0:48:33better

0:48:33everybody who leaves an itunes review of

0:48:37this podcast and I guess I stole this

0:48:39totally from the flophouse again because

0:48:41I'm looking for more vaguely specified

0:48:43contest and I'm telling you you're on

0:48:44thin ice here it's very simple

0:48:47from the moment that we announce that

0:48:49you can do this until we announce that

0:48:51it's over which i will announce at a

0:48:54later time let's let's say the end of

0:48:55July everybody who writes a itunes

0:48:59review of the podcast will be entered in

0:49:02a random drawing and the winner will be

0:49:05able to pick a topic for a future

0:49:06episode of the uncomfortable

0:49:08wow yeah so that was a lie Steve I've

0:49:11already written 6 review the podcast and

0:49:14you will and you will get what I'm gonna

0:49:16go right now and do it but jokes jokes

0:49:20is in quotes right jokes is in quotes

0:49:22ok exactly it alright I here are these

0:49:26reviews and also i love that i had to

0:49:27take screenshots in itunes because

0:49:29there's no way to copy and paste and of

0:49:30itunes course there isn't

0:49:32Jake Owen road I'm glad to have been

0:49:33covering podcast who will watch every

0:49:35episode of Star Trek the original series

0:49:37so i don't have to you don't have to

0:49:38come on you should what's wrong with you

0:49:41even Spock's brain especially Amazing

0:49:46Race what is break this review is by me

0:49:48followed by 10 exclamation points and

0:49:50then an inverted ! ya know how my who

0:49:58writes the uncomfortable to music and

0:50:00entertainment from my friends nerdy or

0:50:01not I'm the biggest jock you could ever

0:50:03meet

0:50:04sure he's he's six foot but I'm also a

0:50:06coward Center where he was who has

0:50:08memorized the timeline of the doors from

0:50:10the Lord of the Rings all-in-all this

0:50:11podcast is amazing that's very nice

0:50:13that is nice right jockeys gonna come by

0:50:16later for adults always going to publis

0:50:18and you also love ya hear hear some

0:50:20textbooks to hold so we cannot come out

0:50:21of your hand i fall i think is this name

0:50:25could be the Eiffel Tower I don't know

0:50:26has recommended some really great SF

0:50:29books some of the best book discussions

0:50:31I've listened to lively thoughtful and

0:50:32funny great discussions about movies and

0:50:33TV i'm not convinced that i should start

0:50:36reading the comic books they're

0:50:37discussing but the other my fullness

0:50:40courtesy and weight of the host of the

0:50:41guests are unfailingly entertaining on

0:50:45which podcast about the new disruptors

0:50:47that's okay i'm not sure i could love

0:50:50this podcast more by lapsed cannibal

0:50:53oh thank god i think the world only love

0:50:57me more if I ate it

0:50:58if we're in a golden a pot age of

0:51:00podcasting comfortable is rapidly

0:51:01becoming that ages standard-bearer wow I

0:51:05mean guys this comes from a lapse

0:51:07cannibal people come on are we in the

0:51:09golden age or silver age

0:51:11alright that was very those very nice

0:51:12fantastic long-running book movie comedy

0:51:16club by sk jolly the uncomfortable one

0:51:19of my favorite podcast i love the

0:51:20wide-ranging discussion of books movies

0:51:22comics and TV

0:51:24Jason Snell does a great job moderating

0:51:26the discussion even when there are many

0:51:28guests as we can during yeah i highly

0:51:31recommend the back catalogue if there's

0:51:33a topic you want to hear about that that

0:51:35is true and we are trying to work on

0:51:36relaunching the incomparable calm with a

0:51:38little bit better index so you can find

0:51:40what number is that episode was when we

0:51:43talked about some movie that you're

0:51:44interested in

0:51:46we don't have to make sure when people

0:51:47search for Stephen Fry comes up with

0:51:48zero results

0:51:49exactly that's it that's the

0:51:50choose-your-own-adventure that has the

0:51:52one ending that you can't get to from

0:51:53any actual page you have to just find

0:51:55how yeah there's the spaceship one

0:51:57that's right you have something that was

0:51:58already booked 12 inside you have 54

0:52:01Morgan's room that's right towards nerds

0:52:05but then they remembered them and I'm

0:52:07not sure they reprinted that one to the

0:52:09booty that was in that to the new booty

0:52:12nice you pretty you wrote music for do

0:52:14the Naboo to the new booty oh yes I did

0:52:17what I did you know the matter is that

0:52:19it that's it that's good enough

0:52:21yeah alright this and this is the piece

0:52:23piece de resistance of itunes reviews

0:52:26John this one was written in markdown

0:52:28which itunes doesn't understand and so

0:52:31it's just markdown syntax in the middle

0:52:33of itunes Jonathan pacheco bless you he

0:52:39first section is called panelists route

0:52:41rotates group through a group of

0:52:42panelists you guys who listen know all

0:52:44of this

0:52:45topics special format episodes he says

0:52:48thankfully every once in a while the

0:52:49comfortable likes to break away from the

0:52:51regular monotony and do something

0:52:53different like a film festival or a

0:52:55draft and he's got us dead to rights

0:52:58that's exactly what we try to do is mix

0:53:00it up

0:53:01ok here we go here the cons though

0:53:02here's our careers are from the

0:53:06gentleman doesn't he's not a fan of the

0:53:08dnd episode so I rejected so i think i

0:53:11think there's some good stuff and we're

0:53:12gonna reject it anyway Scott I so

0:53:14technical timeliness which has got three

0:53:17hash marks the beginning because it's a

0:53:18subhead in markdown that's not

0:53:20recognized by itunes timeliness for me

0:53:22tends to work against the uncomfortable

0:53:24not that they don't attempt to to be

0:53:25your succeeded being timely irrelevant

0:53:27but when they do the quality suffers a

0:53:29little bit i'm referring primarily the

0:53:30effort episode sending around say a

0:53:32recent movie release because they're

0:53:35trying to record release an episode

0:53:36while the film is still relevant

0:53:37typically means the panelists have seen

0:53:38the film once or twice and have only had

0:53:40about a week or two to ruminate on it

0:53:42compared that to their two part of scene

0:53:44by scene breakdown of each original star

0:53:46wars film so I think this is a good

0:53:49criticism and I've had that same thing

0:53:50we go back and forth about whether to be

0:53:54timely or not a lot of the notes we get

0:53:57on social media like about a hot new

0:53:59release and they say oh when are you

0:54:01gonna do this when you're gonna talk

0:54:02about man of steel or star trek or iron

0:54:04man or whatever and it it generally

0:54:07isn't our bag to do that and so this

0:54:08summer i know we tried it with three of

0:54:11these movies and i'm still not sure if

0:54:12it's really a set our best to do the to

0:54:15do those let me let me let me talk about

0:54:16a a point there which is to say not

0:54:18every movie has as much to talk about

0:54:20his star wars does yeah I mean oh yeah

0:54:23and he said that says that it's not a

0:54:24really good bar right there but I mean I

0:54:27i think that the difference between

0:54:28going through something that's been out

0:54:30for a while even if it's just come out

0:54:32on video and we've had a little time to

0:54:33digest it versus something that we

0:54:36literally you know saw once a couple of

0:54:38days before I think that there's some

0:54:41validity in there is certainly a very

0:54:42different kind of feeling we're talking

0:54:43about a new release then we're talking

0:54:45about the classic well sure but I i

0:54:47think those are two separate types of

0:54:48episodes and more to the point I like

0:54:50doing a couple days after I've seen it

0:54:52because then

0:54:52i still remember what happened in that

0:54:53movie whereas i might not watch that

0:54:56movie again like six months Michael by

0:54:58music and movie was alright yeah i think

0:55:00the most movies doll with time it's good

0:55:02it's good to record our first

0:55:03impressions to like don't you want don't

0:55:05the maid imagine several years in the

0:55:07future like it would say well done with

0:55:09the is our first impressions this movie

0:55:11and maybe maybe they change maybe the

0:55:12movie we like now we think sucked or

0:55:14maybe a movie that we weren't that into

0:55:16or thought was okay now has come out to

0:55:18be a classic enemy if imagine if we

0:55:20could have recorded our initial

0:55:22reactions to for example Star Wars like

0:55:24just coming out of the movie or whatever

0:55:25when we were you know 10 years old or I

0:55:27don't know was awesome

0:55:29yes I think you should someone ladies

0:55:32really called well we'll talk about Star

0:55:33Wars yeah i mean i think that's I think

0:55:37it's good to get that down because it

0:55:39could be interesting to look back on

0:55:41that but that's probably never gonna

0:55:43stop talking in fairness you're not

0:55:44probably gonna go back to that same

0:55:47movie or show or whatever it is not

0:55:50maybe even if it's not us it's like

0:55:51other people who buy dramamine things

0:55:53I'm know how long things are going to

0:55:55live on the Internet me would you like

0:55:56to hear what people thought of this

0:55:57movie when it was released well here's

0:55:59some people talking about

0:56:01yeah this is not really a happy medium

0:56:03there i mean you can do a movie that's

0:56:05fresh

0:56:06but then just by necessity you're not

0:56:08going to have the kind of the kind of

0:56:10thoughts on it that you get when you sit

0:56:12and ruminate for several months or you

0:56:14can do an old movie where you've had

0:56:16months or years to think about it and

0:56:18and there you're gonna get you know kind

0:56:19of some more in-depth insights that

0:56:21you've had some more time to spend on we

0:56:23already do both of those things that you

0:56:24might know

0:56:25yeah great there's not really in the

0:56:26middle you're gonna get people go and

0:56:27why that why are you talking about say

0:56:29permit for me theaters for instance

0:56:31which was like eight months ago or

0:56:33whatever that was out

0:56:34well sometimes you see something and you

0:56:35come out of a gun oh man i need to have

0:56:38things to say about this movie sometime

0:56:40to come out of it you don't have things

0:56:41to say maybe those episodes aren't that

0:56:42great but prometheus is an example where

0:56:44I think a lot of people came out of it

0:56:47just really didn't like it really want

0:56:48to complain about it maybe that feeling

0:56:50sticks with you I mean look at phantom

0:56:52menace that you know what are our anger

0:56:55about that movie stuck with us long

0:56:56enough to yeah we can do an episode

0:56:58about eight years later and it's it's

0:57:00still like you know still fresh

0:57:02right now I'm just not sure there's any

0:57:04way to do a current fellow

0:57:05without by just being somewhat shallow

0:57:09on it you're gonna get something that's

0:57:10old and have an in-depth discussion or

0:57:12you're going to get something that's new

0:57:13and and you're gonna get the first

0:57:16thoughts of somebody who watched a

0:57:18couple days ago my reactions are just

0:57:20you know their best when freshest you

0:57:22know before the expiration date

0:57:24so that's what i like to do it

0:57:25immediately after watching a movie they

0:57:27turn brown like avocado and bananas soak

0:57:30yourself in some lemon juice is so gonna

0:57:33use my skin looking young

0:57:35I'm just saying like I agree with i

0:57:36agree with the criticism I just I'm not

0:57:38sure there's really a solution to it the

0:57:40solution would be first I disagree with

0:57:42these critical solution would be to not

0:57:44do it

0:57:44the solution would be the first to say

0:57:46well you know which I said sort of last

0:57:48summer when the blockbusters are coming

0:57:49out i said that it's not really our bag

0:57:51to to rush

0:57:53also it's hard for me sometimes to get

0:57:55out and see me because you know kids uh

0:57:57it's it you know we could say that we

0:58:01can say well that's not what we do we

0:58:02don't you know the biggest star wars

0:58:04episode 7 like we're gonna we're gonna

0:58:06do an episode not after we see it yeah

0:58:08it's like it's inevitable and only

0:58:10because we're not all want to talk about

0:58:11it well I really wanted to talk about

0:58:12Star Trek I mean I was gonna say yeah I

0:58:15think we have to do starting to think

0:58:16that it's fine to keep mixed up i mean

0:58:18we're not trying to be the every week we

0:58:20write review a move-in-ready movie and

0:58:22right we can always go see kids at the

0:58:24your local cinema right that's a

0:58:27different podcast so that leads into our

0:58:30into his other subheading under cons

0:58:34which is conflict conflict I to it that

0:58:43this this podcast variety panelist is

0:58:44one of the strongest assets but it would

0:58:46work more on the podcast favorite this

0:58:47group didn't share so many of the same

0:58:49opinions i just might disagree

0:58:52yeah it's got that's the stupidest thing

0:58:55I've ever heard

0:58:56I think he's got a point Steve what ya

0:58:59not changing out what you said has

0:59:01become the stupidest thing I've ever you

0:59:04sir

0:59:04RT is in contrast with that previous

0:59:07piece of feedback we got about about the

0:59:08other other opinions no good no let me

0:59:11continue here with this isn't laps

0:59:14cannibal who is this jonathan the shell

0:59:16that man down show Dom I get the

0:59:18impression anything

0:59:19bigger than a minor negligible

0:59:20disagreement makes makes the panelists

0:59:23or me the host uncomfortable he almost

0:59:26apologize for being off in the negative

0:59:27are conflicting territory as in the

0:59:29aaron sorkin episode dan that's that's

0:59:31my back and actually have apologized

0:59:33only half-jokingly for an episode that

0:59:34got probably about as heated as a benign

0:59:36and comfortable at episode can get I

0:59:38refer of course to the Avengers episode

0:59:39which cause other people referred to as

0:59:41infamous when India not currently it is

0:59:43expressed to start strong disagree with

0:59:45the rest of the group will seem rather

0:59:46taken aback ok so we talked about the

0:59:48Avengers episode again my take on this

0:59:50to recap is is that I don't think Andy's

0:59:53disagreement with the problem with the

0:59:54episode i think the problem was that the

0:59:56episode suddenly became about us all

0:59:58talking to eat

0:59:58talking to eat

1:00:00he and Andy I mean and he sort of took

1:00:02over the episode and it became about

1:00:04Andy's opinion instead of about the

1:00:06movie and I think the problem there was

1:00:07not the disagreement i think the problem

1:00:09there was that there was a little too

1:00:11much Andy and our responses were

1:00:14basically trying to respond to andy and

1:00:17you know yet in my mind that fell apart

1:00:20but I don't think it was the

1:00:21disagreement that did it and a lot of

1:00:24times the disagree the lack of

1:00:26disagreements happen randomly I have to

1:00:28say like man of steel

1:00:30I fully expected to be the only person

1:00:32who didn't like the movie i actually

1:00:34went to the trouble of inviting more

1:00:35sense to you on on because he said he

1:00:37liked the movie and in the end we all

1:00:40kind of have the same criticisms of it

1:00:42even though moisten still says he likes

1:00:44it he did agree with a lot of the

1:00:45criticism of it so sometimes that just

1:00:47happens I I admit I didn't go out of my

1:00:50way to find somebody who hated star trek

1:00:51into darkness but I also didn't bar

1:00:55anybody who said they didn't like it

1:00:57from being on so but i think this is a I

1:01:00think that's a good point i mean this is

1:01:01one of the questions with the podcast

1:01:03I'm interested what you guys think about

1:01:05you know the role of conflict i hate i

1:01:08hate to think that we're we're a podcast

1:01:10people who just sits around going yeah I

1:01:12liked it it's awesome like that one

1:01:13review that i may be sad on the itunes

1:01:15store a few years ago that said it was

1:01:17like the chris farley show remember that

1:01:18thing that was cool yeah that was

1:01:20awesome

1:01:21that's you know I definitely don't want

1:01:22the podcast to be that this isn't debate

1:01:25club though I mean that's not the point

1:01:27the point is that we can raise the point

1:01:29Steve now sorry 1.2 smell haha it's got

1:01:35the same can't wait for this huh

1:01:37I disagree we agreed too much to that

1:01:40don't that never happens

1:01:41was it the things people don't know is

1:01:42that we like sign upsign up whatever

1:01:45like express our interest to be on an

1:01:46episode before any of us have seen the

1:01:48movie so it's like oh we're going to do

1:01:49a star trek episode whoever wants to be

1:01:51on that like let it be known and that

1:01:54happens before any of us have seen the

1:01:55movies how do we know whether we're

1:01:56gonna like all like Star Trek and I mean

1:01:58it could be that just the start was an

1:02:00enjoyable movie that's why we call it a

1:02:01blight like it's it's not that was

1:02:03actually not is that it's not it's not

1:02:06picked based on you know what were they

1:02:08cannot trying to find balance right like

1:02:10we're not this isn't a political we have

1:02:13fat people deliberately sign up

1:02:14specifically because they think that

1:02:16their their opinion differs from what

1:02:18the absolutely gonna be yeah it's not

1:02:20that were being all positive or negative

1:02:21we always think alike its evolving think

1:02:24sometimes we have the discussion and we

1:02:26figure out how much more we like or

1:02:27don't like something

1:02:28also we do this thing called listening

1:02:30and changing our opinion sometimes based

1:02:31on new information is disturbing to some

1:02:33people i have never done that have a

1:02:35doctor who episodes are a good example

1:02:36where like doctor who really is mixed

1:02:38and depending on people's mood and their

1:02:40experience with dr. food like sometimes

1:02:42it's like we can kind of all agree on

1:02:44what the good and bad episodes were but

1:02:46then when it comes to assess the overall

1:02:47season like you know I it really i think

1:02:51it really we as a group and give a

1:02:53reasonable assessment of the quality of

1:02:56the product like you know I don't like

1:02:58it was metacritic things or whatever

1:03:00like it look if everybody loves a movie

1:03:02and it's just get rated highly

1:03:04everywhere and it's like oscar-nominated

1:03:06and just universally acclaimed visit a

1:03:08shock that we're going to have an

1:03:09episode about it and like most of the

1:03:11people on the panel are going to like it

1:03:12you know where it were not it's not like

1:03:14equal time on the the radio waves where

1:03:17we have to have someone giving the

1:03:19opposing view on a movie that everybody

1:03:21loves right if it's a great movie

1:03:23we're gonna have an episode and we're

1:03:24all going to like it and like I said we

1:03:26signed up for expressed interest to be

1:03:28on that episode before any of us saw the

1:03:30movie or read the book or whatever

1:03:32a lot of the time so I don't think

1:03:35there's any bias one way or the other I

1:03:36think we're just reflecting the quality

1:03:39of the thing in some sort of average

1:03:41size that way if I may disagree with

1:03:43myself John circulator i would say I got

1:03:46nothin

1:03:46the I you know I I a couple pieces of

1:03:49feedback work i'm trying to guess at how

1:03:50the the episodes are our program didn't

1:03:53I can you know as John was saying of I

1:03:56send out a note i used oodle.com to send

1:04:00out a note with all the time that I'm

1:04:01capable of recording an episode and I

1:04:03say we're doing an episode

1:04:05here's what here's what it's about

1:04:07here's a link let me know if you can

1:04:08make it and then people RSVP essentially

1:04:10and then hopefully if they've rsvp'd we

1:04:13find a common time and people show up

1:04:16and we do the episode what what you get

1:04:18when you do that is something that is

1:04:19not as together as if we were trying to

1:04:21create this sort of statistically valid

1:04:24speed most difference

1:04:27a prospective opinions sort of thing and

1:04:29so it is much more catch-as-catch-can I

1:04:32don't know it at the exception is really

1:04:35when I saw that voice s to do man of

1:04:36steel specifically because I wanted him

1:04:39because he said he liked it and any not

1:04:42co likewise I sought out Andy for that

1:04:44episode because he knew he was gonna

1:04:46like it and I he was unable to be there

1:04:50just the one common time we had he was

1:04:51on a train so we couldn't do it so some

1:04:53of it is just that it's scattershot that

1:04:55people choose to be the on the episodes

1:04:57that they want to be on and that there

1:04:59there's a continuous-time and then we do

1:05:03it and then it just sort of happened and

1:05:05like I said with Man of Steel had no

1:05:06idea what the general thoughts were

1:05:08going to be a star trek into darkness I

1:05:10I didn't know I had an idea that most

1:05:12people liked it but I didn't know for

1:05:14sure and we signed up some people you

1:05:16know signed up before they even saw the

1:05:18movie so you know it and I think doctor

1:05:21who is a good example where we can have

1:05:23a lot of different opinions within even

1:05:26if like this year we sort of all came to

1:05:28the same agreement about the the season

1:05:30being a little bit disappointing but we

1:05:31are different episodes that we liked and

1:05:33didn't like which I thought was was good

1:05:35so I like it when there's when there's

1:05:37stuff to chew on and we have

1:05:38disagreements or different perspectives

1:05:41on things i don't like it if it's just

1:05:43seen as being this kind of Politburo

1:05:44that's gonna be reflecting the

1:05:47agreed-upon opinion but sometimes that

1:05:49just happens when there is disagreement

1:05:51my goal is there you know I want to make

1:05:53it a free-flowing conversation and not

1:05:56have it get derailed by one person

1:05:58disagreeing which is my problem with the

1:05:59Avengers episode and it's not Andy

1:06:01having a his opinion I think that's fine

1:06:03i disagree with it but I think it's

1:06:05great that he had it i think how I

1:06:06handled that episode is why I don't like

1:06:09it so much because I felt like I let and

1:06:11ego and and it became about him instead

1:06:15of it just being about all of us and our

1:06:17opinions of the movie so well and

1:06:18speaking of the Politburo thing it's not

1:06:20like we get together and like all right

1:06:21guys we think of this party the party

1:06:23line for the inaudible is that we all

1:06:25like this but we didn't like this one

1:06:27thing right here but overall we really

1:06:28liked it at the first time we're talking

1:06:30to each other at all about it usually is

1:06:31on the podcast yeah and we've been

1:06:33beforehand we say save it for the

1:06:35podcast right yeah I try I try to not

1:06:37reveal what I thought of something

1:06:39you know on Twitter or whatever before

1:06:41we do an episode so I did you go and not

1:06:43know I still don't know what John

1:06:45thought about half the things i was

1:06:46turned up like where it's really not the

1:06:48show's charter to argue about stuff in

1:06:51that the purpose of the show is to sit

1:06:52around and chat about stuff and there's

1:06:54plenty of places that do that and it

1:06:56disconnected i would say more

1:06:58I can't even imagine the the kind of

1:06:59feedback you would get if you started

1:07:01going that direction and deliberately

1:07:03got people on that we're going to

1:07:04disagree vehemently with each right

1:07:05right that's why I don't want to do it i

1:07:07think the setting is a better as a

1:07:09better term for what we do when we like

1:07:10it or dislike it we talked about this

1:07:12section we talk about well you know we

1:07:14we as I you know a bunch of people

1:07:17pointed out and of course this is

1:07:18something that John has done his other

1:07:19podcast to I mean you can like something

1:07:21and still kind of admit the flaws i mean

1:07:24what we've done a lot of episodes the

1:07:25wrath of khan episode was entirely

1:07:27people who love and just absolutely

1:07:29adore that that movie and then Steve I

1:07:33adore to and and uh you know we picked

1:07:36it apart in so many different ways but

1:07:38in the end it was all with love right

1:07:40and and still the star wars movies are

1:07:41like that when I was because we love we

1:07:44know occasionally we will destroy

1:07:45something like man of steel or star wars

1:07:47episode one and some people don't like

1:07:50that because they they prefer us and out

1:07:53there was a nice piece of feedback on

1:07:55Twitter from michael johnson dr wave at

1:07:57Pixar was a very nice guy who said I I

1:08:00you know I really prefer when you guys

1:08:01talk about something you like and

1:08:04tearing apart something that you didn't

1:08:06like it's sort of like a waste of time

1:08:07because they're you know it's that's

1:08:10they're just better things to do more

1:08:12constructive things to do with one's

1:08:13time and I think you know I i enjoy the

1:08:16episode 10 episode but I wouldn't have

1:08:18every episode be that and I do like the

1:08:21idea of us under things were

1:08:22enthusiastic about and then picking them

1:08:24apart with enthusiasm and love not

1:08:27picking them apart because we want to

1:08:29destroy them because I just think about

1:08:31the person who was like crying laughing

1:08:33listening to the Phantom Menace episode

1:08:35would you deny that person their

1:08:36enjoyment just because you don't like

1:08:37the kind of episode and vice versa that

1:08:39you know different strokes but we want

1:08:41every episode is not going to be that

1:08:42episode 1 episode but every now and then

1:08:44we will we will do that and and and

1:08:46that's fine that you know when I was in

1:08:48college I took creative writing course

1:08:50where we got created on our criticism of

1:08:52the others

1:08:53good stories not on our short story and

1:08:56I I brought some people to tears in that

1:09:00class uh-huh

1:09:02you got me but you know what that's just

1:09:03part of it i mean that's just it's it

1:09:06it's not done and out of malice it's

1:09:09done out of you know trying to see if

1:09:11you're critiquing somebody's writing

1:09:13you're trying to accept that one guy he

1:09:14made me really angry know so I said

1:09:16story with that

1:09:16no it's not malice it's eerie trying to

1:09:19help somebody if they're working on

1:09:20something or you're trying to understand

1:09:21a work of some kind i take that part

1:09:24that poor zombie ladies probably crying

1:09:26right now

1:09:26yeah i'm sure into her money she's

1:09:29wiping her face with thousand-dollar

1:09:30bills

1:09:31yeah a friend of mine high school wrote

1:09:33he was in a writing class and he wrote

1:09:34an essay that was called this a personal

1:09:36statement and he turned in only the

1:09:38teacher graded it and she want it long

1:09:40he did not go back to the class that I

1:09:43am was Al Pacino yikes sorry I just

1:09:45assumed it had to and with no had to end

1:09:47with some sort of blending right like I

1:09:49had to be just friends you know and then

1:09:51he was out between us mailman it turns

1:09:53out I you know when I when I was done

1:09:55with that critique adventure story class

1:09:57the teacher said well now that Jason's

1:09:59put away surgical tools that I was like

1:10:01okay maybe maybe I overdid it a little

1:10:03bit but you know where is the Midwest

1:10:05where you grew up in California you so

1:10:08people out that's interesting

1:10:11we have surgical tools here people and

1:10:15we have no idea live here and there is

1:10:17this thing there is that idea that you

1:10:18should be insulated that certain things

1:10:19should not be criticized p like other

1:10:22environments in which criticism is meant

1:10:24to be tepid praise or may very tepid you

1:10:28know it's sort of bland application of

1:10:31things and it's like I think you know

1:10:32real criticism is can be hard feedback

1:10:35and I think that's down the line i

1:10:37disagree i'll take my stupid ideas and

1:10:39hit the ground

1:10:40alright it is it is fun you know it's

1:10:42fun to talk about stuff that we that we

1:10:44like or that we think is interesting i

1:10:47think the worst episodes would be the

1:10:49ones where we were trying to take apart

1:10:50something that had that had nothing in

1:10:53it i mean John quite nicely i keep

1:10:56referring to the flophouse this

1:10:57wonderful podcast John syracuse

1:10:59recommended to me which I love fantastic

1:11:01hilariously funny podcast they see bad

1:11:04movies and some of the movie

1:11:05they have a lot to talk about even if

1:11:07they're mostly movies that they call the

1:11:09bad bad movies their movies that are not

1:11:11even so bad it's funny they're just bad

1:11:13but there are ones where they'll go half

1:11:15an hour talking about what happens in

1:11:16the matter how bizarre and bad they are

1:11:18and then there are others where they

1:11:19talk for five minutes and they're like I

1:11:20I have nothing more to say about it and

1:11:22that too much in my line that's the

1:11:24worst kind of thing for us to talk about

1:11:25is the thing that's uninteresting

1:11:27whether we like it or hate it if we can

1:11:29find some interesting stuff about it

1:11:31then it's worth talking about

1:11:33we need some sort of a tag on each

1:11:35episode saying hateful episode here

1:11:37that's right the danger for the

1:11:40audience's when they when people have

1:11:42some part of their self-worth or

1:11:45identity tied up in some yeah media

1:11:48thing and any criticism of that thing is

1:11:51that they take on as like you know an

1:11:53attack on themselves because they

1:11:54identify so strong with it's their

1:11:56favorite movie and if we say it's done

1:11:58then we're saying that they're dumb yeah

1:11:59I'm like that that whole cycle happens

1:12:01and to some degree that's unavoidable I

1:12:03mean like I didn't we all think that's

1:12:05that's a big deal like you know we talk

1:12:07about movies that you can understand

1:12:09that if you're making some fun of

1:12:10someone's removing a lot of us are you

1:12:12working a tech industry you understand

1:12:13how like if you talk about android vs

1:12:16iOS or in the old days you know mac vs

1:12:18windows people will get tied up with

1:12:19that but when I briefly did a car

1:12:21related podcast i found even more

1:12:23virulent strain of this thing people

1:12:25identify incredibly strong with cars and

1:12:28car brands to the degree that we would

1:12:30get hate mail merely because we didn't

1:12:32you ever mention a particular make and

1:12:35model of car like I think a lot of that

1:12:37has cut these feedback that we get I

1:12:39don't like your negative episodes it a

1:12:42lot of that I I mean maybe everything

1:12:43like it was like it's not that it didn't

1:12:46like your negative episode so that i

1:12:47really like the thing that you were

1:12:48criticizing like rarely do i hear i

1:12:51really hated that movie too but I didn't

1:12:52like your negative episode about it like

1:12:54I really hear that one that's why

1:12:56nobody's like man that phantom menace

1:12:57episode was terrible i got a couple of

1:12:59selected the people the people who liked

1:13:02Phantom Menace said that you know I'm

1:13:03saying like the steelers those people

1:13:05are diluted I think some people don't

1:13:06like us they like us here at me like he

1:13:09was getting excited about things we like

1:13:11and don't like us tearing get excited

1:13:14about things come together hate yeah

1:13:16well I rather talk about things that I

1:13:18like case in point I don't enjoy talking

1:13:20about the works of your grant but I have

1:13:22to yes because it is part of our premise

1:13:26right but we wouldn't choose to read

1:13:28mirror grant for an episode we're

1:13:30reading mira grant for for the hugo

1:13:32episode and it just so happens to have

1:13:34been nominated that's not it's not like

1:13:35we keep reading those books it's like oh

1:13:38boy i get the rib and believe me we'd

1:13:40rather not read those boys but she seems

1:13:42so nice on Twitter awesome i'm sure

1:13:44she's a lovely person i'm not but a

1:13:46horrible writer stop right but I don't

1:13:48know her so she may be gonna make her

1:13:49cry again no into her money not crying

1:13:52crying sure she's local here she could

1:13:54come on my house and punch me in the

1:13:56face she might you might

1:13:58so curse you curse you evil in the ocean

1:14:00yhu give her a converted to get your

1:14:03book when you get your books published

1:14:04asian so write a scathing yes that's

1:14:07right i think the moral of this

1:14:09criticism is not everybody likes

1:14:11everything

1:14:12yeah well as well though it's reasonable

1:14:15Steve stop being reason crazy talk

1:14:17go ahead Steve tell me to eat it

1:14:21you said oh you'd like the same when you

1:14:26ask for Jason but we should thank

1:14:29jonathan for his very well thought out

1:14:30yes because he actually went to iTunes

1:14:33and wrote a small novel

1:14:35yes I using something in patent program

1:14:38but he spent time to rethink it out and

1:14:41and put it well thought-out criticism

1:14:42together and yes absolutely

1:14:44thank you I'm just said it was invalid

1:14:47by his dislike of the dnd episode and if

1:14:49he had only done so a week later he

1:14:51could have been entered in this

1:14:52wonderful contest

1:14:53sorry Jonathan well yeah it's too bad

1:14:55and yes Scott he didn't like the dnd

1:14:58episodes and that's too bad but again

1:15:00the dnd episodes we're not we're not a

1:15:02dnd podcast and and not yeah yet but

1:15:07we'll throw those in every note now that

1:15:09is mostly as bonuses or if there was a

1:15:11week that I was not going to find

1:15:12anything else to post because of travel

1:15:14vacation or something so that was good

1:15:17stuff right I'm out of feedback that's

1:15:19all the feedback I have and I've

1:15:22announced the contest the itunes review

1:15:23contest now now we just have to make

1:15:26more podcasts to get more feedback

1:15:28yeah we just create our own feedback and

1:15:31skip the party right well so our next

1:15:34episode

1:15:35what's our next episode about I i can

1:15:38actually nothing

1:15:39no injuries forward promotes our next

1:15:41episode will be the the long-awaited

1:15:43hugo awards episode tricks all I'm

1:15:47waiting for that

1:15:48yes yeah i got a book fishery yes that

1:15:52that that's going to be that's gonna be

1:15:54big

1:15:55I think by a by the math I've done I

1:15:59should almost be done with 2312 by the

1:16:02year 2312 yeah very close very close and

1:16:05then i'm hoping so I I something else if

1:16:07you're listening to this shortly

1:16:09well okay most of you will probably be

1:16:12listening to this episode while

1:16:13comic-con is going on or after it has

1:16:15passed i'm hopeful that a small number

1:16:19of us will get together at comic-con and

1:16:21over a few beers record a random rambly

1:16:27stephen fry like episode and post za

1:16:31so stay tuned for that if it if it

1:16:34happens in a couple of weeks apart will

1:16:37definitely happen

1:16:38yes definitely gonna happen at Stone

1:16:40Brewing Company in escondido no less

1:16:42over a stone smoked porter I think

1:16:45that's good i'm ready i'm ready now

1:16:48Steve alright when can you be there

1:16:51well three pressure wait till saturday

1:16:53because that's when i'll be there I

1:16:54might start now okay start drinking now

1:16:56we are we proposing are we doing a king

1:17:00of comedy style season 5 episode because

1:17:02I think there might be some legal

1:17:03problems with no we're not gonna kidnap

1:17:05Stephen Fry if that's right i just

1:17:06wasn't sure what you're proposing now

1:17:08I'll cancel yeah i'll cancel going with

1:17:11the arrangement thank you

1:17:13alright well that's it for the feedback

1:17:14episode that's a hundred and fifty

1:17:16episodes three years and thank you for

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1:17:28read your feedback which is fine he gets

1:17:30it anyway though so including

1:17:32comfortable and then we get it too

1:17:34he just reads metadata and and there's

1:17:37itunes reviews to send your feedback and

1:17:39get a and get enter the contest to tell

1:17:43us what an episode topic should be and

1:17:46those are those are the best ways to

1:17:49reach us I think so

1:17:50keep it coming and will do more feedback

1:17:52and if i can find ways to fit feedback

1:17:54at the end of episode i will do it it's

1:17:56just really hard because again Lisa

1:17:58doesn't want to hear but your complaints

1:17:59about what Glenn said boy there are so

1:18:02many complaints about plan let me tell

1:18:03you I want to hear all real problem

1:18:06yeah alright I that and bear that's it

1:18:10so I'm gonna I'm gonna thank everybody

1:18:11for listening to the incomparable

1:18:13through these hundred fifty episodes and

1:18:14giving us your feedback we really

1:18:16appreciate it

1:18:17except for the part about the dnd

1:18:18episodes which scott multi does not

1:18:20appreciate

1:18:21I don't appreciate them Steve let's

1:18:23wants to hear more praise of Skeletor

1:18:25thank you Steve there can never be

1:18:27enough praise of Skeletor price because

1:18:30guys are ya its that's exactly right

1:18:32John syracuse loves criticism i do ya

1:18:35good credit

1:18:36it's good it's good i like it i would be

1:18:39on a podcast with arguing all the time

1:18:41yeah some would say that no you wasn't

1:18:43would say that you are

1:18:45I the other John syracuse also thank you

1:18:48i'm not playing to the video look you

1:18:53can you can be now if one uses feedback

1:18:56that ever touches upon me is that sound

1:18:58like John siracusa otherwise I might as

1:18:59well not be here free said and that and

1:19:01that in my poor D&D character day you're

1:19:05not gonna let me live that down are you

1:19:06more i'm gonna have to hear about egg

1:19:08laughs until time immemorial now you

1:19:11remember his name haha

1:19:13get in-depth than he has a name

1:19:17uh-huh so exciting that we didn't name

1:19:19either already called one of the only

1:19:20criticism that i get about you is that

1:19:22you should be on more episodes

1:19:23oh well I'm on this one but you should

1:19:27turn your fan down

1:19:28yes it's very hot i'm here though and I

1:19:31don't have air conditioning so my fan is

1:19:33going to be loud critical of the heat

1:19:35down with the heat down the heat indeed

1:19:38I don't like heat either nobody doesn't

1:19:42so we agree that no I disagree i like

1:19:45heat it's too cold here in San Francisco

1:19:47I want some of that heat see

1:19:49disagreement here you can take some will

1:19:50mail it to you perhaps we could work out

1:19:52some sort of meeting a tube to with your

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1:20:20you i didn't think you would step I made

1:20:22mention of criticisms of you and and

1:20:25said your full name

1:20:27well he said it's quite alright so much

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1:20:31hands-free these two sluts

1:20:33thank you for being here Glenn

1:20:34fleischmann thank you for being here Dan

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1:20:39and Scott McNulty thank you for being

1:20:41here too thanks to everybody and all the

1:20:44comfortable panelists i love you all and

1:20:46together as one everybody eat it now

1:20:48this all right

1:20:50I was my last can synchronize our skype

1:20:52sorry until next time and thank you

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1:21:00thank you Jason

1:21:10goodnight oh you're supposed to thank

1:21:12jason where we good walkways and none

1:21:17saying goodbye on the podcast this is

1:21:19the time to say goodbye is no goodbye

1:21:23song The Belladonna music on the Shelf

1:21:25goodnight Jason good goodnight Jason

1:21:32it's time to say goodnight go spin the

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