00:00:01 ◼ ► shouldn't be honest tangent we got a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► got a lot of things to talk about we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► say that about almost every topic almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► every week yeah we're all right so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► week was our first real introduction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► Apple Park and in the Steve Jobs theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/12">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► at Apple Park which we've all seen many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/16">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► many many pictures most of which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/19">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► beautiful of the Steve Jobs theater and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► of Apple Park I don't have the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► handy but then is it from er Fromer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► always get it wrong I think it's firmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► there you go well Dan we apologize but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► anyway we will try to find wherever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► link was that flew by earlier today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► wearing he had like a little photo essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► theater and the pictures are beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/42">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► and and and really well done and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► can check that out but it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/45">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► interesting that we knew a lot we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► know some things and that's cool too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► I guess do we want to start with just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► kind of opening remark or do we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► just dive right in chronological like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► what's the first thing we did Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► thought it was excellent it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/70">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► something if they're dedicating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/75">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► theater to him and naming after him they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► had to say something and I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/78">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► did a remarkably good job of it Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/79">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► delivered it really well it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/83">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► well you know designs and written it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► really great to hear a recording of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/87">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► Steve saying some stuff and honestly I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/88">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► did not recognize that quote and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► heard from other other podcasters didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/94">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► you know where it came from either that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► I remember it I would have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► quote he said so many things about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/99">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► much we love Steve Jobs miss him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/108">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► that particular quote reminds me of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/109">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► of the some of the worse the aspects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/113">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► Steve Jobs because it was about like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► some people express their you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► love for Humanity by making great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► tinged with a little bit like I may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► do nice things but I make really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► like as a he said that before of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► you know people complained to him about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► you know doing things that are not nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► everything my time is I would do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► good for the world by making an awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/143">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► phone which is possibly true right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/144">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► himself from doing nice things and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► reminded of that aspect by that quote so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► I was like please pick a different one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/155">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► he's got so many good quotes don't pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► the one that has a tiny touch of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/158">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► rationalisation baked right into it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► but it's clear the most important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► was not the quote or the pictures or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► anything like that it was that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/170">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► clear that Tim still does miss him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► had real emotion you know the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/174">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► that segment took longer than you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► think is he paused a lot between talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/177">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► and you know I don't think that's an act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► like guys know everybody really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/180">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► probably every time he gets up on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► stage and thinks boy Steve would do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► better than me he does fine but I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► saying like like just like he said Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► loved days like today like and he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► have loved to announce this new phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► everything right and just that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► worst time to think about it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/200">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► like that's what he lived for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► hard work and all the yelling at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► and and driving everyone to be their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► best and everything it to get to go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► there and to announce it he loved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and so they I'm happy to talk about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► here we are in this theater and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► that he would have loved the theater he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► would've loved to announce these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► but instead it's us and we'll do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/217">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► best we can i I think if you were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► holding back tears during that segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► incredibly moving and very very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► done and very fitting to what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► doing and you know to the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/230">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► everything I do agree with what Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► Snell's on an upgrade this week which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► was saying this is probably the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/236">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► we're gonna hear about Steve ramble for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/237">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► a long time and I think that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► right it has he's been gone for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► long time this was a very fitting time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► to pay him tribute in this way but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► wouldn't expect them to make a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► habit of it and even when doing events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► in this theater but it was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► really nice thing and I'm glad they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► it and I'm glad they did it the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► did it yeah and I think the important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► point well first of all there never is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► an occasion to talk about Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► like they can make one every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► they could but they don't write to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► credit and this the the intro part that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/267">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► explanation of you know not explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► why they talk about it now it was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► the theater is dedicated Tim's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► name on it like that's the time to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/280">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► right but also that enough time has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► passed that there that Apple and we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/283">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► in the audience I can have some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► perspective on it right so it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► not as fresh as it wasn't remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/291">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► had a good tweet marker I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► what Tim seven-stage was that we can was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► it look back not with sadness but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► whatever I Ford he said you might like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► celebration or something like that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► yeah right and and you tweeted I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► sad yeah I still said but like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/306">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► is that a lot of time is passing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► perspective and this is a good time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/313">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► be able to at least try shift a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► bit from just like it being completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► forgetting and then remembering oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► that's right he's gone he's never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/322">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► do that thing that he does again to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/323">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► memories of just like it happened long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► enough go that it is not you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► it scabbed over a little bit and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/333">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► can look back you know and think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► you know that I don't know like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/337">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► that was a it's not like putting a cap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► on it to say we're never gonna talk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► think about him again but to say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► this is a milestone right especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► since the whole Apple Park thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/348">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► weren't the last big as they noted one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► undertook there he didn't get to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► see completed but he definitely knew you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► supposed to go all right so it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► know it was as with most things Apple it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► was very taste well I'm gonna say as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► mostly that'll as we expect from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► but as occasionally they don't live up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► to it was very tasteful like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► think of the intro videos they've had at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► other times sometimes they're a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/372">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► bit goofy sometimes they missed the mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► sometimes they hid the bad ones I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► we just tend to forget but if we if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► search our memories we can remember a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► lot of opening videos they're like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/381">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► announcements this was tastefully done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► and it was nice it was right around a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► time and it was the right timing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► right amount of time it was long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► that it was taken seriously I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/395">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► reported that they told the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► the audience like hey shut off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► laptops and pay attention for a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/404">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► would you please I don't know how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► phrased it but that was basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/407">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► message and if you I watched bits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► pieces of the keynote again over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► over the last 24 hours and if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► there were a couple of people with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► phones or laptops open but generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► completely dark for that entire segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► and I thought that that was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► taste well it's tastefully done it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► listened because you know if we remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► the turn off your Wi-Fi moment jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► already yelled to them and said he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► close your laptop's it's gonna ruin the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/435">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► effect of the just welcome to the Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► Jobs theater on a black background don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► you understand look at the black levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/439">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► on this projector that's a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/440">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► background totally blends in but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► can't see it cuz you have your stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► laptops open anyway so that after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► so they moved on to the Apple Park intro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► video a little bit Apple Park looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► an amazing building and an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/456">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► reality of it which is like them showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► off like here's this amazing building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► we've made for ourselves that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► never going to see yeah look at us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► thinking how smart we are a visitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► center yeah there's a visitor center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► that's not really the main building or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► that's not really what you want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/478">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► you're not gonna be allowed at near like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► the cool thing you're not gonna be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► the in the big ring you're not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► in the courtyard of the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/485">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► big ring only the press will ever see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► the Steve Jobs theater probably so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► just like I don't know it's it has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► kind of it's like look at this cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► thing we made you can't have it like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► would love to see that'll Park and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► could go there and walk around I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/502">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► you can't go into people's office pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► where you have to badge through stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► but I'm sure you could walk into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► middle of a thing and goes to the cafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► max or whatever they're gonna call into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► this place I bet I can't yeah okay I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► don't think that's the case because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/516">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► Google where you have to print out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► yourself a little badge you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► to do that at Apple I'm pretty sure we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► needed badges I'm trying to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► when we went back or when we went there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► but I think you need stickers made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► yeah I think without an escort you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► see squat like he certainly didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► squat it at infinite loop but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► if you just wanted to go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► food place into the middle of the Ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/541">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► where the trees are I think you can pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► that off yeah I would love that but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► even that is nearly impossible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► anybody to actually do its get a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/548">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► everyone has friends all of us have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► friends at Apple or on this show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/555">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► infinite loop I think about four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► times now I've been actually brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► through and gone to cafe max one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► that's once I've actually gone like into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► the building and not even really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► the I guess wet walked through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► building to get to the food court like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► one time so I'm a park thing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► remain unconvinced by the utility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/578">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► beautiful as sort of works of art the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► views from and of the buildings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/593">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► buildings are good places to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► things they're designed if you do is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/605">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► a good place to work is it a good place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► to commute to is it a good place to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► mean you're gonna ask the press was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► good place to have a press event it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/611">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► seems like mostly pulled that off yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/612">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► purpose-built for that I would hope so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/618">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► like this the bar is low there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/619">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► if you try to do it in like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► that's not designed to have a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► amount of press in it you know you fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► theaters with an audience and a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► amount of press you don't fill fill an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► actual theater like the Billy Graham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/633">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► theater with you know guyun amounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► press that every single person in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► reporting on something so hopefully this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/641">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► fulfills that purpose but even there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► like the the top part of this building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► as amazing in as it is to see a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► glass cylinder with a big hat on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/650">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► how do they get the wires up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► light so it must be these little skinny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► it's like a magic trick right I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► little spinning elevator and the cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► stairs that are like the ones from The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/662">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► Regent Street star in London and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► things that you recognize from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► it's so empty of things like where are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► the garbage cans and and the bathrooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► and you know some place to get a drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► of water and something to sit down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► it's like well those are outside and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► bring them in and rent and have rentals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► and there are bathrooms there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► can get to them and but it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► don't know I look at it and I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► it more as a beautiful sculpture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► less as a functional place for people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► do a thing but the theater I think can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► afford to be weird kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► Sydney Opera House like it is itself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► theatrical thing the rest of Apple Park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► is still you know nobody knows it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► have to wait until everybody's in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► friends we were just talking about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/705">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► say how what's it like what's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► work there is it better or worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► the weird 80's infinite loop canvas you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► know is it better or worse than Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► or whatever other place do you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/713">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► have worked so I remain slightly dubious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► about the utility of a park is a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► to work but certainly looks cool in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► pictures and none of us have to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► there so we can just enjoy it in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/724">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► way I mean probably as the answer is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/725">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► creations probably the answer to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► your practical needs is either wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/732">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► yeah get a dongle to put your garbage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► mm-hmm the a our installation looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► pretty neat though I mean it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► like I can't think the word I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► for but it's like oh of course you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► to have an AR installation but it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► look cool like you know if you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► see the video it it looks like they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► did almost like a monochrome 3d display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► monochrome also isn't the best word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► it but like a very very blank looking 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► display that's somewhere I guess at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► visitors center and then you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► your like iPad or iPhone or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► hold it up to this 3d miniature of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► park of Apple Park and it will show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/770">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► like the full res you know all the trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► all the happy trees everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► everything and here's here's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► here's where all the air flow is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► people care about that it but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► look clever in the use of any use of AR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► and speaking of air flow and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► that apparently the whole building is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/789">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► hundred percent renewable energy which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/790">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► is pretty cool because I'd like my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► soon to be kids to be able to I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► know have a planet to live on after I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/795">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► especially since it is huge but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► don't know I did there was a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► especially we're around Apple Park there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► was a fair dose of self-congratulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► which I think some of that is to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/808">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► expected I think it ran a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► long for my taste but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► their event not mine so they can do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► yeah I don't I think the Apple Park and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► they see jobs think fine right but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► when they went into the retail thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► which is the next segment I started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► think alright I can't get on with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► you're allowed a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► introductory material right but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► I I mean maybe it's just because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► that interested in retail or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► because it didn't seem like it fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► the event because this is supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► an event about products and the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► you guys talk about jobs and that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/842">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► Park is because that's the venue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/844">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► it's the introduction of it but retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► you could talk about any time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► confess I mostly zoned out and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► rewatched it I didn't bother watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► that segment again did they announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► anything new or say anything that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► it worth the amount of time that it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/859">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► in this presentation of course they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/860">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► they're not Apple stores anymore they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► other town centres town centers which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/866">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► speaking like I don't know I block this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► I'd block the segment they tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► redefine vocabulary the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► this whole segment is that it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► full of like retail jargon and and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/880">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► initiatives are probably talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► fundamental mismatch between how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► talk about this to themselves and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► we care about is the customers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► difference or understood that difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► for this segment and this is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/900">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► first time they've made that mistake you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► know this is actually one of the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► criticisms I have of generally Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► Cook's presentations about things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► that it seems like they often blur the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/912">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► line or don't find the right balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► between internal language and external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► language and external concerns would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► say that your customers sad is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/924">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► exactly where you wish it was oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► blow away like so like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► whole thing with the store is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► going through telling how they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► hell these great events and I'm making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► all these atriums and for hand theaters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► and that's all that's interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► like what people want out of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/940">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► store experience that we have today in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► and out of the Genius Bar appointment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► a reasonable amount of time and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/948">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► where to line up yes but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► people want is literally like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► shorter Genius Bar Waits and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► easier to get appointments and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/957">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► overcrowded and there's a huge burden on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► the staff that's there so we need more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► of them probably and they need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► more staff and I don't think people care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► if they're waiting for an hour in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► know standing up to a table somewhere or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/975">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► in something called a forum with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► couple plants in it like it's nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► I'm glad they're doing things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/980">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► for their own sake but we the customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/981">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► like that doesn't really solve a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► problems that seem to not be getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► solved so it's hard to enjoy a segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► like this when it's not solving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► problems we really have and also full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► this creative jargon that we don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► about and that's really hard to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► attention to I think this is the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► Apple retail thing is another example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► success hides problems like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► important that this that the stores are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► nice that is important it's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► mystique of Apple's probably the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► people are excited to go there and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► the products that are on the tables and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► like you know all that is important not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► to say that it should just be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► giant like you know supermarket with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► efficiency right it has to be a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► place but the success the tithing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► problems is the reason Apple retail is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► you know worth more money per square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► foot than any of the retail places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► because they sell expensive high margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► products and they sell a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► because they're really good and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► want them right that's it like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► a store with products that people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► presented nicely in good locations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► your margins on those products are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► and that'll gives you this this store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► that like that you know that people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► want to go to and throw huge wads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► money at you constantly like over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► over again there people are crowding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► the stores and you take all that success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► you're like we should make nicer atriums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► have a living wall and and carved this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► thing out of stone and call things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► you know you're you're losing sight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► the purpose of this I mean maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► not maybe this is for the external thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► exchanging goods for money right people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► come in with money and they want stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► to come out I mean again it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► nice but you know none of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► you're doing is making it making it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► likely the people are going to come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► and buy your things or making it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► you sell more of them per second right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► you know it seems like it's mostly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► wash and you're just kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► polishing the tables and rearranging the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► decor and trying not to interrupt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► flow of money but certainly if your goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► was to you know either increase the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► satisfaction then you'll be like less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► wait times more staff so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► or if you want to increase profits then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► get people in and out faster and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► might also increase satisfaction nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► is clamoring for even nicer materials in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► constantly you know redoing things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► I'm not saying they shouldn't make nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► they totally should but you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► I don't know maybe maybe we're unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► maybe we don't spend enough time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► Apple stores I think they're plenty nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► I think that I think they are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► nice and I think they do they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► remodel them refresh them periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► but all that money flowing in lets them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► sort of stick their head in the sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► thing yeah sometimes it's frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► but the money keeps coming in so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► you know try to get a new material for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► the floor yeah you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► somewhat silly example but um I went for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► a run and I was putting my phone into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► Brits hello likes I was putting my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► into my fanny pack or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► called and not that and yeah well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► called that here it's not all that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► but anyway bum bag Thank You slate 401 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► that's what I was looking for I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► that's the British version anyway is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► that real bum bag yeah I've heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► several times there's not just a parody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► of fanny pack I don't think so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► there are all kind of parodies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► themselves but but yes alright anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► I'm gonna get through this darn it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► shattered my first iPhone it's first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► time I've done that since getting my 3GS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► way back when I made it almost 3,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► had some like Nick's or scratches or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► what have you know is that before or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► after the last Mac Mini update ah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► a good question I'm not sure but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► I I went to schedule an appointment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► on Friday mornings this was at like 6:45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► 7 o'clock in the morning when I was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► availability there was like a hair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► availability Saturday and I ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► having to wait until Sunday and and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► a couple days out you know there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► were the times that I had were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► available to me we're not terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► convenient which yes I understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► like oh I live very close to an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► store don't be creepy you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► live an hour or two away from an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► store it's much much worse so this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► have been a whole lot worse but if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► been able to schedule like a same-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► appointment for a convenient time for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► that would have been amazing instead I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► was like oh I guess that's when I'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► in and then when I got there it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► okay wait 10 15 minutes for somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► come talk to you to just verify the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► that you do you have the phone you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► you have and then wait 10 or 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► for somebody else to come and grab the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► phone and then wait two hours to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► the phone repaired and yes I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► that this is a first-world problem to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► end all first world problems but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► point I'm bringing the reason I bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► all this up is because if I had had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► a next day appointment would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► in and out in an hour which I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► the store was empty or perhaps more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► appropriately staffed then I could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► been that would have been amazing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► wouldn't have stopped talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► forever but instead it's like oh well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► guess I got to go to the Apple store you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► mean you have to go to Apple today you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► will be today at Apple Oh at Apple today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► going into their forum atrium to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► their genius Grove I'm actually glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► brought that up I actually think I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► today at Apple I think I like the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► and I think I like the premise well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► ever do it probably not like the idea I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► even though I don't think it's for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► think it's a good idea and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► really really like the name today at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► Apple and and in the little video they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► showed you know they showed today at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► Apple we're gonna I don't know do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► photo walk today at Apple we're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► sketching today at Apple we're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► teacher Tuesday which I also think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► really awesome so as much as I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► and I know you were joking but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► poke fun it today at Apple I actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► enjoy that Apple Town Center however get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► out of here with that nonsense it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► all right now we've spent too much time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► on retail we were sponsored this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► aftershocks bone conduction headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► go to ATP aftershocks calm to learn more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► aftershokz headphones work by bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► conduction small transducers rest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► front of your ears not inside or around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► the like most headphones and they send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► vibrations through your cheek bones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► are too small for you to feel directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► to your inner ear so unlike every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► kind of headphone bone conduction leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► your ears completely open with nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► sitting on top of them or resting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► them or squishing inside your ear canal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► and this brings some major benefits so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► first of all there's a major comfort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► benefit if you like me can't wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► earbuds cuz they just hurt after a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► this doesn't have that problem there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► nothing in your ear they're also awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► for exercise and for hot weather because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► you don't sweat as much without this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► thing covering up or sticking inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► that's what stay in place really well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► you move around during exercise and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► are ip55 certified for water-resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► so if they get too sweaty or if they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► if it starts raining you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► difference for me with aftershock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► compared to any other headphones is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► nothing is blocking your ears so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► hear all of the sound of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► around you so this is not so good if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► you're in a very loud place like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► subway station but it's awesome if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► you're doing something like running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► outside or doing stuff around your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► where you want to be able to still hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► what's going on in the house or taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► call in an office it is incredible it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► like nothing it's like no other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► headphone I've ever used and I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► for walking especially it is amazing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► walking or any kind of other like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► outdoor exercise where you want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► the world and you don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► blocked out you know for safety or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► practicality reasons the flagship model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► was the tracks titanium which they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► sell and it's great and it is I think my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► favorite overall one they also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► announced and are taking pre-orders for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► the Trek's air this is 20% lighter now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► has a new light weight all titanium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► headband it has reduced sound leakage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► phones and better bass response if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► want personally I prefer the pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► ability of the original one because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► shape is a little bit different but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► they're both amazing you can't go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► with either one they're both incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► light incredibly comfortable and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► highly recommend them so go to ATP dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► aftershocks calm to learn more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► treks air and the tracks titanium thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► you very much two aftershocks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► sponsoring our show next up was Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► watch this was it started out with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► new medical initiatives around kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► continuous heart rate not full-blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► monitoring but kind of like passive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► checks throughout the day for heart rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► monitoring that can do new things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► attempt to detect if your heart rate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► elevated when it shouldn't be like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► you're not exercising and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► announced a new heart study that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► starting that will mean that the goal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► which is to detect things like it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► arrhythmias and a fib and this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► is a really big deal this is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► kind of awesome thing that I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► the Jeff Williams led health initiatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► really get right I really hope that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► works out for them I'm very glad they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► doing this they should they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► commended for doing this because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► potentially life-changing for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► people a lot of people so that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► well you have to opt into this the study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► though it's not I mean it'll be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► when if it if everything works out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► don't know that what the regulatory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► situation is but can they just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► build this in so you don't have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► anything you just put your Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► on and then one day you get some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► notification says hey yeah we noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► something weird maybe you should contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► somebody and you know whatever versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► now where you have to download this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► sign up to be part of the study probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► signed a bunch of disclaimer things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► whatever um so it's good for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► already know that they might be at risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► understand this program is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► passively get the benefit of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► program because it's still in the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► of you know experimental stage so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► start it's a start yeah and I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► sure you'd have to opt in to add to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► being in the study and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► but but they had like their the download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► and happen everything yeah but but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► framework to do these things for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► time now so like that's yeah and to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► it at quite immense scale to so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► that's why these are so important and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► why they're so impressive that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► apples doing this at scale with pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► advanced resources that they're at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► fingertips here or at their wrists tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► and and so it's there actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► potential to do pretty significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► things here yeah they were saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► you know I thought it was during this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► keynote that they said that you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► lot of medical studies or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► potentially going to be like tens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► thousands if not more than that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► we also skipped a brief moment what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► you think of the introductory video for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► Apple watch this is not the cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► video which comes later oh yeah where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► they really have like the guy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► reading his letter from his car crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► and stuff yeah yeah yeah exactly my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► complaint about that thing is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► was not clear to me whether the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► in the video were actors or the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► people well it's funny you bring that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► I wish like it's like we planned this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► Kyle Seth gray or Kyle's the gray it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► a real a listener and I think he listens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► to the show I'm not sure so if so hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► Kyle but um but anyway he's definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► real a listener and he was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► people in the in the video he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► one on the bike and the stationary bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► and so that is a real person that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► met and I have shaken his hand with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► so yeah I don't maybe others were actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► but I'm pretty sure not and and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► like we saw something fly by that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► guy in the elevator was also a real a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► listener it's always kind of weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► when I mean they do this all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► but they they enter a segment about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► product and especially with the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► watch where the new one looks just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► the old one it takes a couple seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► they ramped up to say they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► telling us how great their product or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► existing product is which they tend not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► to do like there wasn't a big segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► about how great the iPhone 7 is before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► the iPhone 8 part right but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► let me just tell you about and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► about watch iOS 4 and people love their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► Apple watch and sales are great even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► though we're not going to tell you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► many there are but trust us they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► great and and then the video and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► course the new the new Apple watch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► top of that but it was like it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► a lot of time spent on something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► not the announcement of the new product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► but uh you know I don't I guess they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► feel like it's important to them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► emphasize the fact that the watch is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► success like in a way that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► feel like they have to do for the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► I don't know that beats me but I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► the video was good and I think to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► back to where where we were before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► interrupted I I really think this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► Apple heart study could be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► extremely powerful and I'm I'm pleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► to see them doing it this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► example of Tim or whomever deciding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► this is something that's important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► Apple or to them personally and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► eventually Apple and so they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► making it happen and and really making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► some some stark positive change or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► hopefully we don't know yet but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► assume that will be the case and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► really awesome yeah so then after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► unless there's something else we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► here series 3 yeah exactly so series 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► which is with LTE so optionally with LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► that's a fair point fair point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► optionally with LTE this is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► exciting it sounds like it will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► completely separate of course connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► to your particular cell phone carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► you will share however the same phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► number with your iPhone and there's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► a little bit of chatter about how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► working technically behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► but the the the net effect is if you run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► out of the house and your phone is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► home and you go driving somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► yeah then if you get a phone call your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► simultaneously ring and you can answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► on either one and you can send text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► messages from either one etc etc in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► way that you can only do now if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► either connected to Wi-Fi in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► circumstances or connected via bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► to your phone and that's extremely cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► what's not cool is that at least in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► America it seems that all the cellphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► carriers are go or at least anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► talked about it yet is saying it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► be 10 dollars a month for a watch which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► i think is preposterous i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► what it is i don't know why i came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► this conclusion because the watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► small and you pay more money for big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► things size comparison okay III know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► that we are spoiled by modern cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► it's an entirely separate cellular data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► device that is only $10 a month to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► on your plan that's a good deal no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► not it's not more data that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► selling you err like what like Woody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► Allen's father and that movie that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► can't remember they're just sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► they're not giving you more David it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► doesn't cost them that much more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► to have another device on their network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► you know so like it's trust me they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► making a huge amount of profit attend an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► additional $10 I know but like but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► is a very you know compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► industry and what they do and what we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► always paid for to have an entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► separately activated device for $10 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► month is pretty good I disagree it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► same it's the same phone number I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► here's a problem the problem with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► this stuff is that it's not we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► know what we should actually be paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► for these things because so many telecom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► companies have not a monopoly but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► have one or two reasonable choices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► competition is not strong in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► industry and regulation is not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► so we don't know what this stuff would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► actually be worth with competition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► we do know that in other parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► world you get more data and faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► so the general frustration with carriers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► everything and so it's hard to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► know what you're saying your argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► you have Marco is the relative thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► like Thing Thing X costs this amount and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► proportionally yeah I'm getting another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► device in it's only $10 but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► feels like it feels like the bad the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► doomsday scenarios of the net neutrality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► things where it's like every new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► you want to have they can charge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► money for the carriers have always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► there and remained there and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► like well great everything's gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► a cell connection and I have to get not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► nickel and dimed but fived intend it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► untenable after a certain point it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► especially if it doesn't come with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► data right especially if it doesn't so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► you know we all hate carries and we wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► they did a better job at this point when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► the number of devices starts going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► like this like we fast forward 10 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► years and everybody in the family who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► an adolescent or adult has a watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► phone a tablet and not a laptop example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► never I'd sell you to a because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► that's a that's a lot of damn devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► and you start saying can I just pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► huge amount of money for my whole family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► and just be like a flat rate for a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► amount of data and not have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► additional money every time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► someone adds a new device but we're far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► from that so anyway it's not that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► ten dollars seems reasonable for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► kind of people who are gonna buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► Apple watch with cellular which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► already a pretty expensive product as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► companion to their already expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► phone so apples right on the money in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► terms of you know who this product is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► for and what they're willing to pay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► we'll get to more of that later when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► start getting into the phones but uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► know it it looks good I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Marco that getting this for free and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► John as well but Marco I think you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► I think you thought I wanted this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► free I don't I don't think that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► a free additional connection to in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► case ATT's network is reasonable I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► this is different for example than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► tethering where tethering is still only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► one connection to AT&T and how I choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► to blow through my data to me should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► my choice and I found it completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► additional fee years ago because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► still only one connection and it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► just my data and in fact in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► they should encourage tethering because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► then I'm gonna blow through my data even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► quicker and then hypothetically pay them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► even more money this is different in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► that I do think it should cost a nonzero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► amounts of money to have an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► connected to your cell phone plan the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► thing that bothers me though is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► don't think $10 a month is a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► cost I think it should be half that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► how did I come to that conclusion no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► freaking clue I think it's what John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► physically small the iPad is physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► big it should be less than the iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► I concede that really if you put that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► paper it doesn't make a hell of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► sense no but it it just seems it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► seems bonkers to me that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► that really shouldn't necessarily be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► drawing that much data and even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► was it's still the same bucket of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► it's not like I'm getting more data for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► it I just don't think that $10 a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► is reasonable I think five would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► been the right answer and I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► have blinked an eye if it was $5 a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► but for $10 a month that's making me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► I think I want cellular but now I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► so sure and I don't know do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► cellular forget it okay before I set you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► on fire this kind of like micro price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► anger is why I app developers can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► charge money for apps but anyway let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► not do that well yeah in actually five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► dollars a month even is great perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► anyway there's like here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► there the cost of this the cost of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► device to the carriers is network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► capacity right because every device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► is communicating one of those hours adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► right but in the grand scheme of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► even with apples we have no idea how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► many they're selling thing we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► roughly how many thing they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► in proportion to the number of cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► phones that are on a cell network at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► given time and ended miniscule so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► is a capacity increase for connecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► these watches but it is small and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► pricing of cell data plans is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► realm of whatever whatever carrier is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► makeup and or colluded with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► for there is no market pressure to lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► prices as they're so few people and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► only one who is hungry is always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► the one with the terrible network where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► I think it was that sprint these days or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► whatever to mobile right and even they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► minoo pull prices essentially out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► thin air so it's hard for us to know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► much of stuff was worth you know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► than like I said looking at the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► the world and realizing we don't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► that great here so I don't know um but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► anyway if you're like if you're remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► on the fence to get the cellular one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► like don't why would you even bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► getting with his phone it's like and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► get the cellular and unless you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► were already looking at a series two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► you've never had any interest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► cellular then you know get the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► through that cell yeah but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► thought I really love to have a cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► thing but that $10 a month is you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► mean you know just drop one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► streaming subscriptions like this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► expensive product for your expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► phone well but I might add a screen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► streaming subscription because stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► Apple music which we'll get to in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► it's cellular on your wrist that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► pay the ten bucks oh it is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► that's incredible what like even for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► this year even for this day and age even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► for the wonderful technology that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► have that is still amazing like oh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► how this is like the Louie CK like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► know it's sitting in a chair in the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► yeah yeah how is this not amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► like you people are like I've seen some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► of the comments are like it's just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► watch no it's not just a watch it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► tiny little computer that lives on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► wrist and can talk to anywhere on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► world without any phone attached to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2278">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► or now like that's incredible can I run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► overcast on it because that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► what I care about know I'm there amen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► that's a software limitation that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► is not a hard like and we'll get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► I mean okay let's let's talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► now so you know cellular on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► what is it actually good for and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► answer so far is you know the basics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► lots of times we have talked about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► other people have talked about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► do you bring your phone with you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► the watch and when the Apple would add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► features like standalone music playback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► from the watch like to a Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► headset or when they talk about adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► SOS earlier this summer we would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► know a lot of us would ask ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► like why would I not have my phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► me because a lot of people like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► when they go out for exercising they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► still bring their phone with them just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► in case there's an emergency or somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► has to reach them or they need help or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► whatever else yeah so there's a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► a clear reason for lots of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► who would otherwise take just the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► with them somewhere I would love to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► that but haven't been doing that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► because of anything about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► watch's hardware or software but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► it just didn't have cellular itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► which I guess was hardware but ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► it's like that was what that was holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► back a lot of people and so I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► last week like in our predictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► episode like and and we had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► heard the rumors last week about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► cellular watch because that was from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► home pod leak but you know we had we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► discussed like you know the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► want in the watch are for it to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► smarter and nicer looking timepiece but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► exercise and notifications and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► so what Apple's doing here is very smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► in that way it's it looks like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► done zero to make it a nicer looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► better smarter timepiece but it but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► is a massive jump forward for making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► an exercise and notifications device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► because now there are significant times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► when people would want to bring just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► watch with them that and and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► times for which people are buying or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► so that's exercise that's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► going on the beach that is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► certain types of travel and TVs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► let's be honest it's mostly exercise but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► that's a big thing like a lot of runners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► you know want to run without having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► phone strap in some weird spot on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► body or anything like that yep it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► huge market so this is awesome for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► now going beyond the like you know phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► call in an emergency scenario I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► mentioned the Apple music streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► that's cool you know that that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► fine I'm a little concerned about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► that will affect battery life but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► know it'll it's probably it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► your underplaying that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► like the most important thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► when you take it when you're running I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► think a lot of people bring their phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► with them they say oh it's in case I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► fall down I need to call somebody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► really they want to play their music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► from it and yeah you can play music from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► your watch now but it's a pain in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► butt I think streaming music plus air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► pods is like the killer app that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► sell cellular for me you're gonna tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► them oh I can make phone calls that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► make me feel better but I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► all about 40 million songs on your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► in air pods like that is the ultimate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► want to run and listen to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► that's why I think it should work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► Spotify and all the other services I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► have no idea if it does I hope it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► constrained to Apple music and I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► with your concerns about the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► life in the streaming but that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► killer and that's they show that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► ad of like look at me I get air pods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► I got wrists it's the lightest weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► way to listen to all the music in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► world while you do some activity while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► it also tracks your workout in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► pulse and everything that I think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► is the total package on this yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► exactly right and that's why a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► ago I alluded to you know I might need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► to get an Apple music music subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► I am a die-hard Spotify kind of guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► I love Spotify for reasons that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► interesting for right now but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► thought of being able to go for a run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► like everything Marco just said to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► able to go for a run with just my air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► have to worry about dropping my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► but more importantly just carrying my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► darn phone that sounds amazing and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► don't twist my ankle or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► that that I can call for help and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► help from Aaron or whomever that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► amazing and that is what I want but KC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► all this amazingness including having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► all the music of the in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► accessible via voice control honor your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► little wrist computer that you can wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► anywhere and have cellular coverage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► not worth 20 bucks a month visit it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► not worth 20 bucks a month he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► complaining about the price of the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► note he's complaining about the price of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► the carrier that he feels like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► already paying for especially if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► doesn't bring his phone he's not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► extra Network capacity right no but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► problem though but leaving all evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► all my whining convention aside about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► the the price of the cellular part you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► know it could be that I'm actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► ten dollars to your point Marco $10 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► the cellular $10 travel music but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► that's monthly which adds up real fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► but all of this really comes down to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► however the thing that I most enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► listening to when I go for a run is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► actually podcast and the particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► podcast client catcher whatever of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► choice that I enjoy happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► overcast and all I want in the world now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► is to be able to leave my phone in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► house take my watch and my air pods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► listen to overcast from anywhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► tell me Marco that you're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► this happen I'm trying but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► I'm getting anywhere anytime soon I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► because I'm literally not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► anywhere yet but I I am trying I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► you no I said when I remove that feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► I'm going to try to bring it back I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► trying to bring it back but so far I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► haven't but we I'm not going to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► trying in fact this is an outlet or new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► fire under my bud because I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► really want this to be a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► people can do that I can do also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► know why that is by the way because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► know why that is and it has nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► do with me or any of your customers it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► has to do with your newfound obsession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► and you don't want to bring your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► with you while you're riding your bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► either do you nope sure don't shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► be listening to podcasts while you ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2638">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► your bike no I actually I actually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► more have been wanting this on dog walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► honestly biking I'm still and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► even though I'm not biking on the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► I'm biking on a trail but even on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► trail I don't want to listen to things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► I'm I'm listening to the world around me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► because I'm scared out of my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► but anyway so also there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► reasons to want a cellular watch so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► thought of a couple so obviously there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► a lot of app potential here the watch so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► far has been a pretty mediocre app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► platform but this changes things quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► bit for a lot of different types of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► so this could be a big thing right now a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► lot of a lot of the watch has been held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► back by the fact that like the apps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► the watch are pretty slow compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► doing the same thing on your phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► if now more people have more reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► have their phone with them at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► all of a sudden the watch is all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► potential for apps a new demand for apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► I also thought about things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► know so they mentioned in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2698">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► that if you leave your phone at home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► if you bring just your watch with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► you're just your new series 3 with LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► that updates your location for fine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► fine friends tracking oh yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► right that was wrong which is not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► awesome for like exercisers and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► but also I thought like what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► wanted to track locations of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► children and you didn't want to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► them a phone but you maybe could give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► them an Apple watch of LTE like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► engineered solution to this problem but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► potentially so I thought of here watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► you know I just bought a GPS tracker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► my dog and it was much cheaper so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► consider that if you want to track your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► children it won't always be $300 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► that's less than a phone by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Apple one will always be nine and ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► dollars a month that kills it for Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► all right anyway so III do think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► pretty remarkable and they did be s the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► size increase a little bit but oh great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► you know they're the case they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► have stopped there they shouldn't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► they felt like they need to be honest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► said technically speaking the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► thing that bumps out of the cases it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► that nobody would notice but it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► their Apple they have to cover their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► millimeter like that that's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► small difference to two sheets of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► they said it was almost nothing but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► be fair if like Samsung had pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► something like this we would be all well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► nobody would say I put them next to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► other you could see two pieces of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► you know what it is I mean it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► BS though like just call it like you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► it and say oh we made it infinitesimally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► smaller or bigger the most amazing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► I think I always have to remind myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► of this when I look at the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► is it every time they talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► they go you know we essentially we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► kept the watch the same size for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► generations gotten a little bit thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► over time because the series too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► thicker than the original series zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► and this is thicker still so fine but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► general it's a little Airstream trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► with the Bulge on the bottom then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► remember it comes in two sizes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► think how the hell does the smaller one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► work they have to fit all the same stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► in there the only thing that is smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► is the screen so you can get a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► smaller battery because you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► slightly smaller screen but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► else can't be doesn't shrink and power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► usage it's not like oh the small one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► a cell radio that uses less power if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► they have cell rated to use less power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► they use it in both of them so the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► one is the miracle and maybe that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► means the small one doesn't get as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► battery life which is a bummer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► that's always been the case the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► one has always gotten noticeably worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► battery life I know but I mean like does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► it scale linearly because now they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► LTE right oh it's still the same all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► battery life blahblah is the small one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► even worse now because there's an out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► the battery must be so tiny in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► I don't know what the minimum battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► size is to run any kind of cell radio to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► transmit to a radio tower that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► potentially far away from you anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► yeah I'm reminded of that looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► the models where oh yeah they make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► that's like way smaller yeah it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► amazing what sigh what size does Tina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► so yes it's the thing she's gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► one of these yeah with ulti yeah are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► she uses it for the intended purpose as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► shown in all of Apple's ads so as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► as they don't make a polka Mango app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► I wonder um I've heard through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► through you know very supporting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► that the thing just that the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► three just feels a heck of a lot quicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► like opening apps and things like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► I kind of wonder and some Marco said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► earlier made me think of this if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► doesn't have to like so let's say for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► example I'm using lifts for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► time in forever and I try to do it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► watch for whatever silly reason it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► to if I understand things correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► anyway it has to wake up the lift app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► my phone or at the very least wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► the phone and say hey I'd like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► your internet connection but something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► has to get woken up on the phone and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► needs to communicate with the phone blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► I wonder if not only obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► processor is so much faster on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► series 3 but I wonder if just having its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► own connection to the rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► dramatically increase and improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► performance and just make it feel a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► snappier even leaving aside that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► tremendous gains in the processor yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► mean cuz you know with the watch like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► one of the reasons why the the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► watch was so unbearably slow is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► whole UI of apps was being driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► effectively by the phone like remotely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► over the Bluetooth connections like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► every tap was basically going back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► forth with the Bluetooth to the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► and so everything they've done to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► the watch more independent in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► noticeable increase of performance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► responsiveness because anything you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► doing to reduce those round trips is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► good now the the current watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► series 1 and 2 that they were pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► you know relative to the first one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► series zero and I have a rant here in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► second about these names but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► they could go over Wi-Fi if they if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► wanted to but they would they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► frequently default to Bluetooth to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► parent phone instead of making their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► Wi-Fi connection for I think just power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► efficiency reasons that Wi-Fi use a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► of power so it was kind of like a last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► resort the phone or the watch would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► attempt to use bluetooth for as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► it could and they they made a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► comments about the W 2 indicating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► it is not only a much faster but much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► more power efficient for Wi-Fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► Bluetooth than the W one so I'm hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► aggressive at using into Wi-Fi and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► when you're out using its cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► instead of just like trying bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► first for everything to save power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► because that will make lots of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► better if for instance I wanted to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► overcast back to the watch one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► big problems there was file transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► speeds and that's because most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► time it was going over bluetooth even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► when the devices would be plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► they would still often use bluetooth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► transfer the files that makes no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► but they would and and there was no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► for me as a developer to say look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► is a big file please for the love of God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► transferred over Wi-Fi the user is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► literally waiting for it right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► it's not being transferred over Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► like there's no way for me to do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► the API so I'm hoping this will help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► push them in that direction I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► these new chips now before I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► about the naming here the first watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► was called Apple watch the second watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► was called series one and two zero zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► index is great for programmers yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► right and so is the fourth watch as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► they're introducing three now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► series one and two had the same guts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► series two was waterproofed basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► and it was like the same chip inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► like this most of the same internals so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► see it was really like series 1 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► series 1 waterproof like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► what they probably should have called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► that after they should have called them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► both series 2 and just retcon the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► one series 1 but instead we have series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► 0 unofficially called with the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► then we have series 1 and 2 and 3 now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► but series 2 was just discontinued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► because the new premium model is series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► 3 so now we have series 1 and series 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► now the casual buyer will look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► and think series 1 is 2 years old but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► fact is only 1 year old and it's not two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► generations back it's one generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► back and if you have an original Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► upgrading you're gonna think the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► 1 is the one you have so it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► very confusing name now not the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► confusing name the best thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► the series 3 also comes with a little te [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► so it's like Oh series 3 is the one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► cellular like well yeah right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► like this these are just terrible names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► like yeah well the good thing is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► like from Butte law and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► lined up on a table they all look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► same so I think the the stigma of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► getting the lesser things like well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► all look the same to me like they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► got apples website it has a big a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► comparison thing like what do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► out of your watch do you care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► cellular do not do you care about water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► preferring not do you care about GPS or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► do you not do you care about a red dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► on the on the ground or nothing can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► talk about the red dot for a second now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► I love watches I love red I even love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► red watches a red on watches rather I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► have a watch with red accents that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► wonderful I do not think there's a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► dot looks good on any color watch except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► maybe the white edition on every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► and I haven't see them in person yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► in all the prints photos and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► shop photos I do not think this looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► good and again I love red everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► own is red I love watches I love red on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► watches this does not work for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► think it works as long as the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► rest that caused in neutral like give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3238">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► space that's why you like the white one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► like yours everything is neutral the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► only accent of color is the red I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► it doesn't clash I think it looks fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► look okay I don't mind it but it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► does limit your aesthetic choices when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► you've got this stupid red dot that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► can't get rid of I mean maybe maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► changeable I don't know before with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► addition where you have different crown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► aromanians thing well but Hermes was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► always I think that was always black but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► but with the original Gold Edition line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► that would had there there was like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► you bought the fancy little red one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► would have the red dot also Tim Cook was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► spotted wearing a watch with a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► wearing a regular steel watch with a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► dot on his crown at 1b one of the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► events for the Apple watch so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► kind of like who he gets the special one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► with the red dot and even at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► was like whoo I want that but now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► that's offered I'm like I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► looks good maybe it maybe it look better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► in person but in the pictures on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► Apple website it does not look good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► a bit of limits your choices because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► say you have a color scheme that clashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► particular band that you want or like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► body color like I want the gold aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► red clashes with it so it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► presentation I was like they get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► the stainless coz that's the one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► like the best that's the one that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► yeah me too I like that look the best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► don't like the aluminum at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► still there they have limited choices of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► the saw you can only get it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► Milanese with the white sport but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► the band they didn't change the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► compatibility so if I was to get one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► these which I'm not I would just get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► stainless at tremendous expense and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► not use the white things and use it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► of my other straps of it I I do not take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► the red dot at all I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► terrible and and I don't know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► and they are not a sponsor I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► idea if their product is any good or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► however I will seriously consider I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► not kidding I will consider putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► completely you know you can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► have the fancy one yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► whatever but but yes now see mark oh now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► I'm in I'm in $10 a month for the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► cell cellular and then $10 a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► potentially for Apple music because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► won't work with Spotify the way I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► and then $10 once for the stupid watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► that I can't even get this out in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► straight face yeah you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► selling this so before before we leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► the topic of the watch which we should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► was trying to remember it's like way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► back when we first talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► watch I remember it was like the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► after it was announced that must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► been frozen house because before we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► said also it's why they is but after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► the watch was announced talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► in one of the shows and I remember being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► pretty vehement about the fact that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► though what you see here is watched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► does the things that Apple says it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► this thing is gonna have cellular it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► only a matter of time and I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► said by the fourth watch maybe it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► misremembering but either way like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► the watch was introduced it was so clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► cellular and live on its own and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► only reason it doesn't is because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► literally could not do that and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► they did it on a pretty pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► schedule like it hasn't been that long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► since the watch readers and they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► got cellular into it they did that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► doing something that we had previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► is very honorable like witches don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► actually make it thinner year after year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► don't actually change the case keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► everything gigantic you know Airstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► trailer on your wrist and reap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► benefits of that by saying if we keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► the same size we can get to where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► know we're going which is cell access on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► our wrists right we can get there faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► if they could have shrunk it and kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► similar functionality but instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► shrinking it what they did it's a sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► battery life let's add GPS let's add LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► now finally in a couple years in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► next major revision now they can shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► because there's probably not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► more stuff they're gonna stick in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► like you know in terms of tech wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► maybe some cameras right and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► better microphones and speakers but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► advancements in technologies don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► to be spent entirely on adding important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► features because they finally got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► feature set of the watch I always wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► to have it is you know it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► when the the iPod left the nest and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► longer needed to be connected to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► Mac to like initialize it or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► think the phone same thing didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► have to hurry up the phone to your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► in the beginning to like all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► devices want to be free of the tethers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► of their larger devices and the watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► finally free it is no longer you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► mean I guess it still aside tied to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► phone cell plan but it is as free as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► can be in the world you can leave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► phone at home go out with your watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► it does all the magic things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► always wanted it to do so really quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► before we move off Marco are you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► to buy one and if so is it going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► pretty much exclusively for testing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► do you expect to use it from time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► time both I I use the watch now fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► regularly but I I'm not I'm not wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► it all day every day I take it when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► as I said earlier I'm going on dog walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► or when I'm biking my lights other to at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► least track my distance you know or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► least use it as a remote control for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► overcast app in my phone even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► can't do local playback very well yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► yeah so sorry I'm gonna buy this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► I think I want to see what I can do as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► developer with 3G on the watch or LTE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► excuse me with LTE on the watch okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► which one do you think you'll get I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► probably gonna get steal and since I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► been getting the polished steel for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► last two watches I think maybe this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► oh you fancy that's when we all wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► way back when the first one came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► isn't it and then because I already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► the black bracelet I bought the bracelet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► separately and I and I like the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► black bracelet looked with the contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► of the steel before but now that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► become more of a watch nerd than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► metal mismatch bothers me and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► wearing it more on the rainbow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► rainbow support band anyway so it's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► of a problem but I want to try the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► do like like the the link bracelet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► Apple makes is one of the best link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► bracelets in the world ever like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► it doesn't have micro adjustment which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► is unfortunate but besides that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► shortcoming it's amazing like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► wouldn't mind getting more usage out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► John what's your plan I'm not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► one because I never wear my watch which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► is a shame I would really like to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► one it seems cool but no because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► wouldn't marry because I would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► be able to have a thing that's on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► wrist that you know I wear I wear my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► watch like three times a year like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► I'm traveling when I'm walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► city streets of WWC when I'm on vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► in London and for those times it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► to do it but that the rest of the year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► don't wear it just sits on top of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► dresser and if I got this new one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► would wear at the same amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► and and it would be cool to have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► access on my wrist but maybe maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► could be convinced if overcast works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► it but like but I don't know the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► is like I wouldn't I would still bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► my phone with me to work even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► anyway it's expensive I'm not gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► it because I'm the only one I want is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► the $600 steel one and it's like ish and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► I would say to like you know for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► who you know like you might be waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► for overcast before they get one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► might be buying one hoping for overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► to work well under breath yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► say like because I have not made any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► progress on that front yet I can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► you when I'll be able to read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► feature or even if I'll ever be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► rare that feature so don't make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► decision for overcast make this make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► this decision for other reasons now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► if down the road overcast does end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► getting the support again by all means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► you know reconsider it then but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► that might be the next watch I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► even know I don't know what the one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► gonna happen I would absolutely love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► get the gray ceramic case with the gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► black sports fan but at $1300 there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► freaking way that's happening so instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► I will be getting the I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► I'm going to leave behind the space grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► even though I love it but I want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► the ability to use basically any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► color band so instead I believe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► going to get the the aluminum which does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► not bother me at all the aluminum one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► white or something along those lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► basically the default Cellular sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► whatever aluminum watch and I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► getting one of those Aaron will likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► be getting the same thing but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► think she's going to want anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► with Cellular particularly once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► explained to her it is a non zero cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► per month even a dollar she probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► like I don't need that but yeah that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► my plan so I will be waking up at 3:00 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► in the morning because the world asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► revolvers in California and I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► waking up at 3:00 in the morning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► place my order for my two new Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► watches and that is just the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► of me going broke this year I will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► also though if it was my primary watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► that I wore most of or all of every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► that white ceramic I still think is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► of the best looking options in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► the whole lineup if not the best looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► option and especially if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3781">TS</a>]
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01:05:48 ◼ ► with HDR there's still 2 tor storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► tiers the remote which I won't mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► out loud so I don't get flamed really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► isn't that bad is not changed with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► exception of a raised loop around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► menu button other than that it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► basically the same wealth stuff no USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► seaports I don't think any of us really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► care that much so let's move on I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► believe like of all okay so similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► like you know when I'm in Minnesota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► earlier like how like you know the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► thing people want in an Apple Retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► Store is like fast Regina's appointments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► and stuff like the one thing we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► with the new Apple TV that's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► not a better remote a redesign remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► because this remote is terrible and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► would also say I think high on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► of what people would want with the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► TV it would be lower entry price and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► we got the most insulting part is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► they did change the remote like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► made a change at all but it appears that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► it's only different in that they added a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► white circle around the menu button that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► maybe there's other internal changes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► I hope there's more to it than that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► it is still a small skinny rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► that is symmetrical in most ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► you will still fall off your couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► cushion because it has a smooth back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► it'll still slip between your couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► cushion and get lost because it's tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► and thin it is still too small for good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► imprecise annoyingly accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► inputted touch pad it is still hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► tell which way is up in the dark and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► mean I it's just like I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► how the people in charge of Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► go through the trouble of changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► Apple TV at all look at that remote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► decide this is fine we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► change it's like are they listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► anybody to any customers like does what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► we think matter at all - have they lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► their sense of taste for shipping that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► in the first place and then two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► later order however long has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4070">TS</a>]
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01:07:54 ◼ ► was reminded of when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► mentioned as talking about the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► you started talking about the new remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► where you're going to get as if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► you know a done deal and it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► question of what the new remote would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► like and I was feeling particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► snarky and I laughed and I said wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► second you think it's gonna be a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► remote I am so upset to have been right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► but I was in a snarky mood and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► like oh you think they're gonna change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► the remote we were all so confident it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► like how could they not change it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► ugh how could they not what it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► need that much we need 4k right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► Ethernet like that was yeah there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► another big one terms of hardware like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► you got to do that it's about time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► we're celebrating they finally upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► the 10100 port yeah and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► the new remote was it was that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► device in history that had a USB C port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► and a 10100 Ethernet port yeah yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► but like yeah just I they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► time to redo the remote so all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► could do was its this is basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4140">TS</a>]
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01:09:10 ◼ ► Mouse at Macworld Expo but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4150">TS</a>]
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01:09:14 ◼ ► for the existing mouse to make it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► that people can tell which end is up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► little divot yeah little divot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► button and so this is like I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► know having not seen one of these in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► person does is the white ring even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► something that you can feel never mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► it feels I'm pretty sure audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► feeling around in the remote is death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► because if you accidentally swipe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► touchpad then you have to remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► correct incantation to not cause the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► playhead to start playing in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► position or you can just like not touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► it and put it down so don't touch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► it'll go away eventually and it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► accept my input I hate their remote so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► much and they need to fix it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► terrible honestly you know I I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► see Apple with new industrial design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► leadership oh god here we go I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► see someone else designing these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► the current team is out of ideas and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► prioritizing things that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► are fully in line with what customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► actually want put someone else on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► kinds of decisions because this needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► editing this needs new leadership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► nobody should look at that remote and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► say that's so good we should ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► another one I I don't agree at all so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► I've blown all credibility bye-bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► somewhat seriously whining about a $10 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► month fee but I don't the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► that the three of us care about are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► the things that most people care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► and I I personally don't really have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► problem with the remote do I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► stellar no I don't do I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► amazing no I don't have I somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► stumbled into asking and answering my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► own questions yes I have I mean I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► not trying to say you're wrong by any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► means I'm not saying that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► shining example of good design but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► functional and it works just fine for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► sometimes I think it's upside it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► it should be better than it is it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► just really good right but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► only real thing that's got going for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► it's a bad remote right and we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► importantly than it being a bad remote I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► think like the most important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► about this remote is that it's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► for people to use like to forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► tech nerds people listening to tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► podcast people who are like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► Apple enthusiasts who've been following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► the company forever who care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► industrial design everything you give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► this remote to anybody any plain old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► person off the street anybody and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► difficult for them to use successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► they have accidental inputs they it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► hard for them to swipe upward and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► and left with their thumbs it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► tell what's activated on the screen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► not an easy remote to use in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► the five-way was easier even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► had a stupid circle that made it harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► to tell when you were hitting up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► down and left and right and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► things all remotes are difficult to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► you've seen anybody using any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► remote the difficult to use but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► remote in particular I feel like does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► old-fashioned sense of the world in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► terms of how successful are people how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► confident are they when using it do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► feel like it's a it's a thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► have to be careful touching because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► something could go wrong I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► like us are use this remote better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► most people because we know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► nuances of how it works we know how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► have to approach it and how to work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► we have lots of experience swiping our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► fingers on things did we do it all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► and our magic mice and our iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► using our sophisticated gestures instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► of just you know the multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► gestures and swiping from edge and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► sorts of things that regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► don't know how to do because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► care about this stuff that much so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► think the this remote is more usable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► we're just complaining about it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► because we're picky and we want more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► Apple I just think this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► this remote it falls down in in always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► as a forward it's actually supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► do and because we you know we those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► podcasts and we want Apple to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► know the best at everything for like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► get it wrong a couple times fine learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► from your snakes provis do better this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► was their chance to do better after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► very long break and they put a ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► everyone is everyone is angry and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► think justifiably so but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► there's always I was gonna say there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► always next year but there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► three years from now what annoys me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► much about the Apple TV is is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► it's worse than the competition the sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► competition but the but it really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► could be so much better than it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► has always been an afterthought it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► always been the lowest of low priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► over some over things like the Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► I guess but like it could be so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► better and it's just so mediocre and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► seems like every time they do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► new to it either hardware or software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► it's just you know two steps forward one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► step back it's just things about it are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► so frustrating and we're all I think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► three of us are heavy users of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► TV for us it is our only TV video source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► the only things we ever do in our TV are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► Apple TV or the switch that's it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► want this product to be so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► than it is and I don't think my demands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► are that high for what I expect from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► good product in this area and it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► fails to meet them so often and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► very frustrating so a couple more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► cookies before we move out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► because we do need to move off one good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► thing about the Apple TV aside from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► being 4k and supporting HDR and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► HDR standards is their announcement of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► their 4k media pricing which is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► as HD and your HD is all good upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► so we always complain about Eddy Q's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► deal-making or whatever but this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► pretty damn good deal same price as HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► is good and free upgrades of all your HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► content is crazy good so I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► asterisk yeah yada yada but if that deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► is even remotely as real as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► announce on stage that is a great deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► for people and it almost makes up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► being locked into their ecosystem being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► for us to use this remote to you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► like I said you don't have to use remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► you can get another remote trained it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► blah blah blah anyway so that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► yeah that's awesome that liked it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► know to give them full credit on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► Apple TV like the 4k content deals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► the exception of Disney are awesome that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► is unexpected I am very very happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► that I'm even more happy about the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► being savory master I think that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► comes for free yeah yeah you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► to pay for it ten dollars a month for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► the screen saver you'd pay it I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► don't know if I'm supposed to get the 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► or 64 gigabyte model which for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► reasons still exist it's like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► people have questioned that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► like it's it's for its for games and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► video caching like well your movie be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► cast on it like there's some automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► storage management in the automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► storage management has an awareness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► how much storage there is in the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► and so if you want to have a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► chance of playing that movie or still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► being downloaded from the last time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► played it three weeks ago get the 64 I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► getting the 64 that's what I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► it's $20 difference why are these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► separate models that's that's two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► of your watch music white yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► understand like okay it seems like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► when the Apple TV for came out whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► I was two three years ago the the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► big like puzzling things about it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► like oh why why are there two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► explained why you'd need more storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► it's not really exposed to the user at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► all in the interface and it just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► seemed like why why why are there two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► why does that exist and then the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► thing was why this remote sucks and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► this one they fixed neither of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► problems they have not fixed the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► and we still have two differently priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► models although they're closed they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► closed certain price I believe it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► $50 difference before now it's a $20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► difference the old one didn't get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► cheaper the new ones are more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► this is a theme of the Apple event the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► new ones are more expensive this is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► for people like me who are gonna buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► every Apple TV anyway because we use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► so heavily I don't see this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► expanding their market much though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► because everyone else in the set-top box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► business like this is just killing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► on price and features you know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4630">TS</a>]
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01:17:20 ◼ ► the small tear or 200 for the big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► the old one is still 150 where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4642">TS</a>]
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01:17:29 ◼ ► it's a mistake and whatever whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► causing them to keep the price high even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4651">TS</a>]
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01:17:40 ◼ ► that calculus is right the premium brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4660">TS</a>]
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01:17:44 ◼ ► the grand scheme of things the streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► services that you're gonna pay for to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► watch on the thing you're gonna swamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► the price of this device pretty quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► but this is a catch-up device like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► was a bunch of stories and then the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4672">TS</a>]
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01:17:56 ◼ ► complaining how behind the Apple TV is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4676">TS</a>]
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01:18:01 ◼ ► 4k it's catch up on all the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► they're adding and maybe it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► bit ahead in some areas in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► content deals or the 4k pricing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► live sports and live news I'm not aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► of what all the offerings are I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► you got YouTube TV and a bunch of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► stuff like that it's behind and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► Amazon Video and YouTube TV which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► apparently aren't still on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► but this is basically a catch-up product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4701">TS</a>]
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01:18:26 ◼ ► are the premium brand because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► fancy expensive hardware and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4708">TS</a>]
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01:18:34 ◼ ► touch it and people people had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► content in in iTunes and so this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4717">TS</a>]
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01:18:45 ◼ ► that they offered the big one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4725">TS</a>]
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01:19:00 ◼ ► play a movie that the kids watch three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4740">TS</a>]
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01:19:03 ◼ ► redownload and if the network is wonky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4743">TS</a>]
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01:19:08 ◼ ► play it would be great if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► actually pin movies to the thing and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4750">TS</a>]
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01:19:17 ◼ ► there listening does this have a fan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► asked people no one told me it has holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► in the bottom of the oven didn't have of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► those could just be for passive cooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4763">TS</a>]
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01:19:40 ◼ ► is bigger than an iPad but who knows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4780">TS</a>]
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01:20:18 ◼ ► Apple TV tell me 24 frames per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4818">TS</a>]
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01:20:24 ◼ ► both of you guys are gonna be getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4824">TS</a>]
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01:20:44 ◼ ► that I have so any cpu speed improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4844">TS</a>]
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01:20:49 ◼ ► do the bottleneck if it's not some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► of weird software thing and that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4850">TS</a>]
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01:20:55 ◼ ► current one going from that whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► is to the a 10x that's a pretty big jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► they have they have really SPECT this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► new one well I still don't know why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► comes in two storage capacities or $20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► different and why the old one is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► cheaper but they have spec this one well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/4868">TS</a>]
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01:24:04 ◼ ► all right so iPhone 8 big changes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► glass back with better glass supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► although I feel like we've heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► almost every year and that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► great for grip ability to like if like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► the reason that I like the jet black so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► much is that the back kind of feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► glass so it's very tacky and grippy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► so having glass backs on that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► pretty big deal like I tweeted it's jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► black but without the scratches because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► glasses yeah very resistant to scratches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► compared to whatever the hell the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► black thing is made out of I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► some kind of chalkboard material so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► all benefits of jet black without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► downsides speaking of I wish I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► look these things up in my past that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► able to use the podcast search but back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► when the iPhone 4 came out and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► still my favorite physical iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► designed glass front and back looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► awesome but now you had a back that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► could shatter - and when the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► shattered is not as a big deal as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► front shattering but people didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► it it was cheap to replace the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► cheapish you know because it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► piece of glass but anyway every 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► generations is that the 4 and the 4s I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► remember talking on some podcast maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► it was this one had to be this one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► maybe someone was like Apple's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► come up with a new phone and you can bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► it will not have a glass back and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► course the fog didn't have a glass back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► and neither did the 5s I knew the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► committed to the success and needed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► 7 but they found their way back to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► because I think they like I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► design I love the four design with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► glass front and back it just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► couple of downsides it took them this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► long something like five phones five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► whole years to say can we get the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► back on this phone and they would throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► like the laser welded mesh of copper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► steel and blob like they clearly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► they wanted to go somewhere they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► there and they backed off they regrouped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► and and and they eventually got where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► they wanted to go again which is a glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► back because there it's only been for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► scratch proof it's good for grip you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► it's a radio transparent dish more so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► than metal right you don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► that glass window like the fives had on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► the back for the radios and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► impressed by the industrial zone than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► was ahead honestly I hadn't been keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► up with the iPhone I remember that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► all been about the you know the edge' [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► touchscreen one and everything I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► yeah these will just be like the sevens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► a lot faster internals I'm actually kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► of excited about these pieces I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► the physical design despite being some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► almost the same dimensions it's cool it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► looks cool in pictures and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► physical properties wise it will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► better phone for people than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► phones that were also shaped like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► so I give the DEA - pretty big thumbs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► yeah I it's kind of unfortunate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► it's gonna be kind of buried in in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► the news cycle for the most part and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► the year in the in the attention cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► by the iPhone 10 because it does look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► impressed by it but of course I was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► paying half attention to it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► was just a gay okay whatever whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► whatever gets get to the iPhone X get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► the iPhone X get to the iPhone X except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► deliberately more good things about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► one so I mean we assumed this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► emphasizing it's got the same chip as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► the fancy phone right it's not like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► got a lesser chip this is not like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► this is last year's model and it has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► a with one one lower a it's got an eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► tenant no it's gotten a 11 and the a 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► is nuts as usual like people posted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► benchmark showing it beating a 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► MacBook Pro in like Geekbench benchmarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► in both single and multi-core yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► those are real by the way that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► that they have now beaten Casey's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► computer which is awesome it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► amazing and you get that in the 8th like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► you don't have to buy the fancy phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► for that it's it has wireless charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► which I didn't think it would have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► differentiation purposes but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► have it and even though Apple's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► ready with its charger thing I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► fact that they use that Qi charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► standard that friend of mine has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► charging thing he bought Wireless he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► bought like a wireless charging case for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► his iPhone like you put like I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► which phone it was it was like a 6 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► something you put a this case in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► it wirelessly charge your iPhone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► this standard by like essentially having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► a case that makes it do the thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► was like oh that's great but you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► bought yourself into a dead end because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► when Apple comes charging insurance I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► not gonna be this cheese stuff and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► they can't like they did it they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► someone else's standard because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► recognize that they you know they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► have to fight that same battle they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► with carplay that they get it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► because they're putting these Chargers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► and it's so hard to like in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► like the stupid 30-pin iPod port went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► every hotel room and if you were another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► manufacturer and wanted to get in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► it's like sorry we already picked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► thing that we're gonna put on our night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► stands and it's this stupid thing the Qi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► charger and my Pratt's me right Qi I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► the Qi Chargers are our I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► they've won the market but I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► them around in a couple places I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► reports of them coming in cars or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► whatever and so Appl getting on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► with that but also finding a way to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► add its own twist and influence the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► standard to charge multiple devices with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► that air power thing all that being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► the quote-unquote lesser iPhone eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► makes this a pretty darn good phone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► the only reason people should you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► the only reason we're all gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► talking ignoring it is because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► tech nerds and we care about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► stuff we're gonna talk about 4 on 10 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► this is an 8 it's one bigger than 7 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► looks really cool it has great features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► if I had a friend or relative who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► looking for a phone I would not say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► just ignore the 8 I would ask them what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► they're looking for in a phone and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► think a lot of people should get the 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► instead of the 10 and I think it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► great for them was supposed to go thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► mark who can tell me the camera they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► they add optical image stabilization for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► the zoom didn't want man this are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► on the 10 no only on the 10 but it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► mean like these are that is the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► you know we'll see how it is in practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► this the specs sounded pretty good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► still 12 megapixel but you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► said it's an all new sensor we no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► light better color etc you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► the usual suspects there which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► awesome there's a whole bunch of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► custom silicon sounding things or custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► processing steps kind of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► they gave you know fund marketing names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► to or that they glossed over like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► mentioned that that you know like first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► of all I think it's interesting noting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► that the AAA 11 Bionic like they gave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► the Bionic afterwards like it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► made even less sense but whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► were they won't have names they can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► their names yeah but anyway so like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► have a lot of name for these things now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► but they also have pointed out in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► in the in the presentation of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► custom thing so they mentioned first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► all this is a six core chip that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► awesome like thanks and and I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► idea you know what the performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► characteristics of this will be but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► seems like the answer is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► fast it does seem like there is a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► performance gains but it seems like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► also got straight performance gains so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► practice but I have thought it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► be kind of Awesome one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► that caught my attention is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► now say they have an apple design GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► and they it doesn't the specs don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► sound amazing at first they said in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► presentation that it is 30% faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► the a-10s GPU and for a GPU performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► for an iPhone year-over-year that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► actually isn't that amazing they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► they've had bigger gains before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► also said it can offer the same level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► performance with the a-10 at half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► power as an alternative I guess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► so again focus on power efficiency this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► is the first apple design GPU core in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► there that III would expect based on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► they did when they took CPU core design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► in-house with the iPhone 5 where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► had their first core which is codenamed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► Swift inconveniently now it's very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► to search for that but if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► those performance graphs that they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► to show but curiously didn't show this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► time where it showed like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► 4:1 through the original iPhone and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► performance of today's iPhone there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► pretty noticeable acceleration right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► after the iPhone 5 that's when they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► it in-house so taking GPUs in-house as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► probably a significant long term and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► impressive gains like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► mentioned during a presentation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► this is a custom design optimized for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► metal 2 and core ml they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► they're api's and that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► thing they can do when they take designs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► in-house and when they can specialize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► the hardware to their software needs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► they can do things like analyze every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► performance characteristics and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► kind of instructions it needs and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► kind of nation that they need and Pratt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► like they can do some really cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► with some really impressive performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► gains when they take silicon design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► in-house they have in the past and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► they're doing more and more of that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► we're gonna see benefits of that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► know continuing down the road that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► pretty great for the GPU thing we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► this was coming because of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► imagination lawsuit or whatever a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► like that Apple had pre announced we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► not going to be using your tech anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► yeah they kind of Telegraph though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► themselves but for the the speed gain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► seems to me not having seen a floorplan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► view of this chip that they spent their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► die space and transistors more on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► six cores and the neural whatever thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► and everything else and less on GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► because GPUs honestly aside from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► they said you know custom tailoring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► to the api's they know they're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► called in making sure it's efficient for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► those things and figuring out the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► balance of execution units and stuff as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► they as they say GPUs are embarrassingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► parallel and essentially you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► them as fast as you want with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► just die space and power budget right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► and so the iPads obviously they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► more pixels to push and they have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► die space and more power and so it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► iPad GPUs that are the big monsters most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► of the time on the phone you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► as many pixels to push around and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► just don't have the die space and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► power to isn't you know it's not like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► we couldn't make it they could have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► it 300 percent faster by just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► adding ten times as many transistors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► sucking up ten times as much power but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► like the trade-off they're picking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► for tiny CPU cores to big ones the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► neural thing the image processor right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► and then GPU I think is like a distant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► third because as much as people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► gonna game on their phone it's it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► important for the Apple TV to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► good powerful GPU for gaming than it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► for the phone the phone GPU is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► said it's like tertiary it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► primary and secondary is the the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► and image processing and the CPU and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► not even sure what are those should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► in you know third is the GPU so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► wouldn't worry about it I think this gpo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► GPU is not like oh it's not like Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► where they're like the CPU not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► language where it was just our first try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► at it I think they're already awesome at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► it and this is just a trade off they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► made and the correct trade off for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► phone and we haven't gotten to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► battery life yet of the ten but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► this that's that we're thing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► being the same system on a chip and both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► of them as far as who are aware like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► there's no differences but the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► neural processing thing for face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► iphone eight doesn't have face ID it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► doesn't have the depth cameras doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► have any that stuff but I think it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► got the neural processing thingy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► there otherwise they're making a custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► version of it just for the iPhone eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► that doesn't have that or it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► it probably has an emoji support I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► weirdness there but I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► choosing to spend their transistors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► where they want and I think when you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► continue just as an and before because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► they'll just have more room and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5759">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► power the 32 gigs is gone it's it's 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► and you know and 128 is gone right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► yes now and now they all cost more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► it's 64 256 continuing and continuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► the theme of price cut price hikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► throughout the line so the explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► for that is the the five storage cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► more money across all their products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► and it does well but I mean that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► estimate they gave it in their earnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► call before where they're not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► making up BS because they're held to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► that their statements there but the sec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► and everything so they're basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► saying hey our component costs have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► up and and the rest across the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► the industry component costs are gone up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► and because of the magic pill capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► they pass on that lack of savings to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► the customer they could have eaten it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► but they didn't and it explains why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► everything is more expensive why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► know there the price hikes across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► board because all these things include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► lots of flash storage and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► because they got rid of the 128 so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► like 64 is entry level I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► acceptable now finally we can forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► days of like 16 top-tier devices of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► entry level and the fact that it jumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► all the way to 56 mm that's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► granular as you would want but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► the fact that they you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► doesn't top out it at 128 which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► hasn't for a few years now so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► that's typical Apple move the big big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► one cost you tons tons of money and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► component prices what can you do I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► I'm pretty happy with it with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► storage choices here because I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► I think 64 is good for almost everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► and if you feel like you want more you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► should have the mostest and that is 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► yeah I mean I don't love that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► to randomly increase prices across all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► their products including the iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► weirdly yeah well that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► Buddha convinces you that it's component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► cost because that's not a strategic move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► like they don't want to have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► but they have to to maintain their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► margins the only company that go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► the holiday season increases their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► prices if component cost is really up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► for everybody I think this will hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► everybody maybe other companies are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► in the position where they can yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► know but they can pass that right on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► the customers and say that they'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► it but Apple is and so they're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► yeah I'm guessing apples ham was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► forced here I'm guessing they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► it because they know they can well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► that's an important part of we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► go to the iPhone 10 in a second but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► these price increases like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► what the correct term for this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► someone it was economics major who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► read anything about it would know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► like price elasticity or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► bottom line is like if you charge your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► customers more if you increase the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► of your product how much does the demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► to go down right and Apple has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► been in this weird position especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► with its top end most popular products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► where it's like a game of chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► against itself it's like if we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► hundred dollars how much fewer of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► will be sell and they add a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► dollars and they sell more than like hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► did we just sell more but we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► sold even more if we hadn't increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► the price and so they keep running this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► experiment if we had 50 dollars mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► right and they're learning for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► they came creeping that price up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► people under Mac Pro is the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► thing they don't even ask the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► on the Mac Pro like how much can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► charges I don't know just like make up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► number $10,000 sure shipping like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► absolutely can and towards the top end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► of the iPhone especially now that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► have this Ferrari of iPhones they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► just add a couple hundred bucks for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► I mean they're already doing it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► like oh you go up in storage in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► section hundred bucks like they discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► they can do that we're gonna head $5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► the customers increase by $100 and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► will keep fill pocket the 95 like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► a great deal and so this you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► compliant price which I totally believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► is a real thing they should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► pretty confident to say our component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► prices are going up we came to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► hit in our margins or we can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► increase our prices and in fact maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► can increase our prices more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► our component cost increase so maybe our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► margins can actually increase and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► they're gonna try it and I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► right I think especially this will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► deter our customers I don't and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► scares me because I'm like if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► doubled the price of the iPhone how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► would the may would they sell half as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► many or they sell like 20% fewer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► it's scary how you know like how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► toy with their demand right I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► another way to keep people out of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► stores you know just keep increasing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► prices but I've got more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► premium right and you know I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► don't think this is a good long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► strategy I think this should be cautious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► because you don't want to leave a price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► umbrella as Tim likes to say like leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► the low end available to everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► and it makes people angry even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► people who can afford it as evidenced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► Casey and I anyway complaining about $10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► a month with Ford so it is a dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► game but I think Apple is actually right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► that you know as the the high-end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► their phones starts to get higher-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► as I think it should because they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► be expanding their line like and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► know having more diversity in their line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► and going for all the different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► they can add lots of money to the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► because they have a product that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► want and it's really cool and it's fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► and you know just you just crank up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► price and you know and sell people $100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► case and 130 dollar charging pad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► just it's this why they make all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► money they're not dumb and we we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► willing to pay for it so I can't a canny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► unlike the $10 thing which is I'm mad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► the carriers I can't even be mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► this because I'm like the carrier's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► Apple has products that people want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► I want them and we're willing to pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► them and if we can't pay for them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► will buy the lesser ones because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► still pretty cool yeah but we have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► more thing gentlemen pretty appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► they save it III don't I don't say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► don't think they should have retired it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► I think it's fine for them can you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► it I think it is a homage and honor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► they do say over for the important ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► and this was this is an important one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► mm-hmm I agree I agree I think it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► is worth like if they're allowed to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► appropriately and so far they have yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► yeah I agree the iPhone 10 which I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► call X earlier deliberately because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► still think it should be called X I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► not call it the iPhone X anymore but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► point earlier was that I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► waiting for this iPhone X to show up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► then sure enough we are immediately told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► no no it is not the iPhone X wait were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► you reading it were you in the Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► camp or you thought they were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► gonna pronounce that X is a 10 that X is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► rather so we did all the strings from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► the firmware and you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► problem with all of us having read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► before anyone ever said it we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► read it in the leak right and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► pronunciation guide in the leak right if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► the first time we had ever experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► was on stage I think there would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► like not a big chance honestly but but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► a better chance that we would all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► saying it internally in our minds as 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► but now we had like a week or two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► saying it in our head as X and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► come out and say 10 and you know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► had to bet I would have bet against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► Gruber I would you know I spent several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► years opening all my Mac OS 10 reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► by saying and by the way this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► reminder the X is pronounced n because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► no one knew what that Mac OS X was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► so I had to say hey you're reading your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► view right up there there's an X I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► you're probably reading this but just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► you know it's 10 didn't work people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► still call it Excel you can do couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► stop them from calling it an iTouch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► you're not gonna stop people calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► this iPhone X or I watch yeah no I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► continue I will try to do 10 oh no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► all kidding aside I will too I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► was saying it earlier was in the mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► of you know 20 minutes earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► keynote I expected to see the iPhone X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► but now now we know it's a iPhone 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► if I slip up from now on don't let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► tell you it was deliberate because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► isn't but earlier that was deliberate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6238">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► you know like similar like when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► one of the s mods I believe it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► 5s and they gave it a lowercase s and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► just looked the iPhone 5s and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► liked immediately it even like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► initial reviews of it everyone Kitsch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► capitalized the s because it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► weird without it so like everyone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► eventually I think Apple just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► normalized everywhere as capital S I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► think this is the kind of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► like I have a feeling a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► are going to call this the iPhone X no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► matter what no matter how Apple says it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► this is gonna be the iPhone X to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► people and we're gonna have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► that we're going to be ok with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► because that's that's how it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► that like calling it 10 like yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► is that history with Mac OS 10 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► everybody screwed up but that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► such a smaller scale than this like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► the iPhone is so much bigger than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► Mac ever was or will be that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► this is where most people who are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► be calling it the iPhone X are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► not Mac owners I think see if the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► time you hear the name of it is it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► Apple store the Apple people are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► say 10 and you don't even know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► an X if the first time you see it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► ad on TV maybe you'll start saying X so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► most people aren't reading about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► percentage-wise I think the breakdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► will be about the same it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► the numbers are bigger I mean most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► people we shouldn't be calling it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► new iPhone we had to be reminded by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► listener MT Walker I had to be reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► anyway that we had a show episode 172 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► the title of which was iPhone space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► capital X do you remember that show no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► should click the link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► and here are very much as discussion yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► at 58 minutes and 6 seconds into episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► 172 we will put the link that's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► show notes so we have a discussion where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► we jokingly say that the next iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► should be 10 but it should be an X like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► a Roman numeral well so and so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► here's the problem with this like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► this was the only iPhone released this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► year they could plausibly just call next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► year's 11 and be fine with it or move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► this one does not go to 11 so yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► here's the problem they have two iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► that they release that are very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► one of which is called eight and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► so similar to the watch who watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► this makes the 8 seem older than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► really is it really makes it hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► talk about these phones that we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► just say like oh it's the 8 family or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► whatever else or like so it it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► there appear to be much more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► difference than there really is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► also is going to age badly if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► thinking about what might they do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► next couple years for the product naming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► like what's gonna what we're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► the phone's next year 9 and 11 or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► this naming scheme like this they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► gonna have to like mess up the names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► again next year and it hurts their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► message this year of trying to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► lot of people still want to buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► eighth's because it makes them sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► even older than they are that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► people thought they were they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► gonna be called 8 but I think Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► willing to eat that because most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► will shop based on the product not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► name right and and I think they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► plan in kind of the same way that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► they went mac OS mac mac OS 7.6 and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► you know eventually mac OS 8 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► wasn't Copland even though it stole the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► name and then they did Mac OS 9 and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► did Mac OS 10 with a Roman numeral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► that Roman numeral did not ever change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► eventually just went away and now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► just back to plain old mac OS but we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► a Mac OS 10 with names and version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► numbers year after year of the year of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 I've someone being reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► again by you someone sent me a link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► my five years of OS 10 review at ARS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► technica and I mentioned starting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► reviews with the section saying what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► mac OS 10 so because people didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► what it was and the pronunciation tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► and I noted that even Steve Jobs had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► said X instead of 10 on stage like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► because you know he's human being and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► also know that he said PowerBook instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► of MacBook because MacBook is a gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► name and he knows it too but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► difficult name but it is a system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► has been proven to work you just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► increase the number you'd never go to 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► yes you just do the iPhone 10 and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► iPhone 10 like they didn't lean on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► as much as I thought they would but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► right it's they didn't say oh and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► skipped the nine and it's like living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► the future and so on and suffer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► that's the message that this is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► one better than the eight it's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► better than the eight it is in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► generation of product they did say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► is the in the same way the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► was the future of the laptop this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► future of phones and it seems clear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► me it fast forward a couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► they'll all be iPhone tens like they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► all be like this phone right the notched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► edge screen the physical design and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6536">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► don't think they're going to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► 10 or if they are they'll just drop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► entirely and the whole bike this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► eventually not this year because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► eights look like this like within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► couple of years as these things go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► market they're they're gonna move this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► this design down market because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► said it themselves this is the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► the phone and they have a name because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► it uses a letter not a number and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► because people don't know how Roman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► numerals work after a certain point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► don't think there's a temptation to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► Super Bowl lmv excise you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► no there's no temptation to do that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► they either just keep the capital letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► X or they just drop it entire length of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► extensible naming scheme just about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► time when the numbers are about to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► unwieldy young iPhones right yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► makes sense but the other thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► consider though is that so and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► you know one of the weirdnesses about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► that the line is now bifurcated that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► you think about how the name scale don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► assume that the bifurcation of the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► into the regular phone at the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► prices plus 50 bucks and that the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► the new phone that's $300 more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► whatever that's gonna keep being there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► they're not gonna sell a phone for $1200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► massively this year and have a huge hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► hit rate with that and then next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► say let's make it cheaper there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► that's going to happen that once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► get used to selling phones at these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► different price points and selling a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► of the higher one they're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► give up that profit in the future but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► they're also not gonna want to give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► the market share of having the slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► Linna but at the base level so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► going to keep having two lines for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► long time they're all gonna look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► that they're just going to be three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► phones three sizes we not so we in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6652">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► that was so now right maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► Austin Powers it's Mike Meyers Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► impression of an Irish gentleman sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► or in a Scottish Scottish did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► did you know John that if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► Scottish it's crap yes anyway whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► point is yeah like they're they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► they're like the diversification of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► iPhone line has not recon tracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► they've only gone more we've got the SE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► hanging out down there which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► hanging out where the 5c was and we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► the little phone the big phone that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► know the 6 and the 6 plus and now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► have this kind of in-between e size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► price range going down mark it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► SC which is now like 350 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► like the cheapest iPhone that has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► been in terms of just what the price is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► right and the most expensive one they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► I'm just saying tech wise right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► distinguishes the 10 now is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► got the edge to edge screen it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► notch you know it's it doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► home button like it is a new phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► design and Apple said explicitly this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► the future of the smartphone so within I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► think a couple years to three years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► whole they're gonna come a September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► event and all three or four depending I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► know how they do with daily deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► the SE all three or four new phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► gonna be not bearing edge to edge non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► home button having things one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► going to be 1300 bucks right and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► them is gonna be whatever the cheapest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► one here is 400 to 500 or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► that's what I mean and once they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► start being edge attention on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► button not bearing watch the moves ease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► you can name them as a family you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► mark them as a family it is a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► that spans the range and it will be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► cohesive than it is now where they show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► the family you've got the se design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► then the the 6s and seven and eight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► then you've got the the 10 it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► bit of a motley crew but we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► transition we're in transition in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► transitioning to the touch ID but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► thing things will flow downwards and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► have I have some confidence that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► product line will be much more cohere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► a few more years even if their names are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► necessarily because let's be honest that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► ball is a little bit weird with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► names there's a possibility for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► brighter future for naming but apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► really good at screwing it up so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► put anything past them I've said this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► the new iPhone one year they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► drop the ten and just they're all gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► be the new iPhone and we're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► have any way to talk about the who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► but uh I'm sure I'll be fine so we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► a lot about this phone we didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► acknowledge tonight that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► specifically for this phone among other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► things and Steve in between the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► show and now the leaks came so fast that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► we on our regular weekly schedule we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► missed an entire gigantically so we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► a lot of this we we certainly didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► know everything we didn't know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► were gonna call this OLED display super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► Retina it's you know per some important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► things we didn't know on that point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► like us not knowing everything I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► we knew the most about this Apple event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► and I've ever known about any Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► event we had we had mock-ups of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► phone that are indistinguishable on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► probably down to the millimeter perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► right we knew so much about the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► from the software leaked which has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► happened before now that I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► like like I think a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► what would have been like in the era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► when people didn't pay attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► Apple and Apple didn't accidentally leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► things and we saw the iPhone intro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► the eight came out we were like oh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► eights are okay they're pretty good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► then out of nowhere came this one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► thing and it was this song we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► this show would have been 900 hours long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► just about the 10 but luckily we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► like talking about this talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► phone at every single thing was even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► leak even the late-breaking gurmann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► leaked about the swipe up for home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► button and all that stuff even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► was phrased and kind of a wishy-washy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► way it's pretty much on the money that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► so we knew so much this is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► high-water mark for how much can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► know about an Apple event before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► happens oh yeah we do the Apple TV 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6895">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► deals we knew that we had a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6897">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► the watch over the weekend from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► software yeah it's a picture of the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► the new air pods right we had we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► queue the wayside efface yeah it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► know so this it's it's a shame and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► will work on it but honestly it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► fighting against the tide here like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► products this popular for our a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► for so many people who are so motivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► to find out this information it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► really Herculean task to keep anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► secret so that's why we should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► concentrate entirely on the Mac Pro but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► no one will care enough about the leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► and we will all be totally surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► once again the Mac Pro wins anyway I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► sorry I interrupt you it's good you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► gone I can't see it back to the phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► just want a contestant the narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► that that we didn't know much about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► we knew the most we have ever known yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► yeah we it was somewhat disappointing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► that regard because we did know so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► but there were certainly some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► that we that we didn't know and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► pitched the super Etna displays being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► brighter with white colour and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► colour accuracy and so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► still is 3d touch a lot of people i saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► on twitter anyway asking wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► happened to 3d touch they never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► talked about it i'm actually looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► the keynote right now and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► slide this isn't right on it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► said it's now built into the display i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► guess that's just like a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► construction detail about where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► mechanically but yeah anyway it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► there yeah yep so now before we get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► momentarily the home button is indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► gone there's been a lot of back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► forth as to whether or not the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► button would be gone it is gone well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► guess not ever after the leak but until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► back-and-forth about the home button to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► get back to the home screen to get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► to springboard you just swipe up from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► the bottom there's a little notch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► little grabber handle if you will not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► physical one mind you and a software one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► at the bottom of the screen generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► speaking that you grab and slide up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► noticed that when I might've been I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► think was an iOS 11 beta they got rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► the force press on the left edge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► screen to multitask and I saw a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► worked up about that and now as it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► out you just swipe not even force press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► I don't believe but just swipe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► little the little knuckle at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► that represents the like home grabby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► thing what is the right term for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► like a drag handle let's call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► gripper it's not a question they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► wearing grips a drag indicator a dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► grippers so you if you swipe laterally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► on the gripper you can just swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► between apps if you go halfway up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► can get into multitasking if you go the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► whole way up like I said you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► back home to get to Notification Center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► versus control center it depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► where you're swiping from the top which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:57 ◼ ► I'm not a tremendous fan of I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7077">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► think that's going to be I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► sounds like there so yeah so they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► you basically like to eat so now the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► has those two ears on the each side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► the notch you basically pull down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► left ear from the notification center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► now you pull down the right ear for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► control center the right ear is control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► center everything else is notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► including the middle so if you pull down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► from the middle like you normally do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► so basically this now pushed control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► center in the hardest to reach corner of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► the phone if you hold your phone your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► left hand oh yeah this is bad hi this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► totally bad for people for lefties I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► totally admit that this it's bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► everybody because reaching the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► corners it's already hard for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► anybody the way the way I hold the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► hold my phone I think I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► see this is the thing about the phone we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► can all speculate what its gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► but as everyone who's designing software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► for it has said it's really difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► do anything until you physically get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► of these in your hand I have to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► I was super doubtful cautious worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► about based on the rumor but seeing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► use the home swipey thing I started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► believe I started to believe two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► one that the home swiping thing could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► a thing I can get used to I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► about control center I will have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:18 ◼ ► I'm holding my phone now trying to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7158">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► can I get to that corner is it gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► I don't know I'm not quite sure what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► deal is there but I bought some options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► but the home swiping things certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► that is something that we're gonna use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► all the time and I feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► gonna be pulled off and the second thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► that iPhone 10 and the presentation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► it worked it's magic on me at least to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► the point where I even just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► thinking about my phone which has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► section of the bottom which is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► screen and the only thing in that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► something and it seems barbaric there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► a section of like that that is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► this blank area of my phone with a with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► a button on it and even it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7195">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► button that moves anymore it is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7196">TS</a>]
01:59:58 ◼ ► like a button it's like what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7198">TS</a>]
01:59:58 ◼ ► like a button it's like what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7198">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► it's like it's like when you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► connect the trackballs to PC laptops on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► the side but those little hooks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► like Mac said Mac side trackballs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► built-in where the trackpad is now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► underneath the keyboard and PCs laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► were then made where the entire bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► part was keyboard from front to back so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► they had no place to put a trackpad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► you could clip it on the side and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:19 ◼ ► look at my phone I'm like this has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:21 ◼ ► weird dead area appended to it where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7221">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► have to put like a physical button it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► like steam-powered or something and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► just barbaric with the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► should be screened you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► maybe the screen will be terrible maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► I'll hate the gestures maybe I'll long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► for the button setting a side face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► just in terms of like what it's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► go back home or to activate multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► or whatever but I came away from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► keynote a pretty big believer in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► correctness of the whole front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► phone being a screen and believing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► pull up from the bottom or some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► thing that is like I dedicate an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7257">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► edge of the screen to important common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► actions is better and per choirs less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► precision than finding that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:07 ◼ ► button again setting aside touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7267">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► setting inside face I'd be just the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7269">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► of like I'm using the home button to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► home and do all the stuff I I was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► convinced I I went into this being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► skeptical that if I was gonna buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► phone which I'm not this year whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► not I would get the fancy edge-to-edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► one and I came out of it saying if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► buying a phone this year 100% I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► get that one because I just I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► try that and I am now optimistic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► that they're right about the right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► this future that they're right about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:32 ◼ ► fact that all screen is the way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7292">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► and we would look back on these phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► that had these dead sections above and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► below that warrant screen and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► will seem messed up now for the record I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► am all-in on the swipe up home gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► thing I think that's gonna be great I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► really honestly do I think that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► be way more convenient and it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► very natural very fast what I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► entirely love is having to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► precise to get to Notification Center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7317">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► versus Command Air Control Center and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► may end up that it's no big deal at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► but I use control center constantly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:08 ◼ ► I use Notification Center frequently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7328">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► so I'm a little worried again not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► tried it that that's gonna be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► bit frustrating but I am totally with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► you that I am all in on the all screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► front I am all in on the on the no home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► button I am right there with you on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► Marco what do you think I'm basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► with you Casey like the the swipe home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► button thing sounds totally fine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► that seems sensible to me like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► if you're gonna get rid of the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► button that seems like a pretty okay way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► to handle it having to pull down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:38 ◼ ► right ear to get to Control Center and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7358">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► think that's a very hard place to reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► no matter which hand you're holding your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► phone and especially because this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► is now taller than the seven so that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► think that's going to be a problem for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► lot of people also keep in mind when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7369">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► you're making size comparisons which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:53 ◼ ► I'll get to in a minute I have a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7373">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► say about this about the screen but keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► in mind that now because you aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► having that top and bottom chin if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7378">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► you're thinking about whether certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7379">TS</a>]
02:03:03 ◼ ► reachable for you keep in mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7383">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► you're actually gonna have to reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► higher on this one because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► reaching into the area that used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► forehead area so that's gonna be a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:15 ◼ ► place to reach maybe one way to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7395">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► this I haven't played with the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:19 ◼ ► like in the in the simulator yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7399">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► maybe maybe they can do this maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► there's some reason why they can't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► maybe a shortcut to control center could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► be if you do the home gesture swipe up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► when you are already at the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► maybe you can open up control center I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► know that's not perfect but that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► know having to pull down from that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► ear area that seems like it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► really hard to reach for something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► people not only frequently use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► frequently use when they're one-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:44 ◼ ► so that's that that seems like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7424">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► that needs to be fixed on the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:48 ◼ ► remember they love and they do the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► where you pull up from the bottom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:51 ◼ ► the dock appears but if you keep pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7431">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► control spender appears they kind of did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7433">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► the same thing on the phone but now now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► it's like if you pull up part way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7436">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► get multitasking if you keep pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7438">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► it's home I feel like they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:01 ◼ ► options if reach ability turns out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7441">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► a concern but the main thing I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► was really clever about control center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► is it is one instance where they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► you know got some lemons with just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► notch which I'll talk about a bit later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► and they made lemonade but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:14 ◼ ► well we do have this notch here and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7454">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► conveniently physically prominently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► divides that bar into sections that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► like if imagine the status bar would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:24 ◼ ► just straight across on top of scream is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7464">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► flat this kind of thing where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► to know that if you swipe down on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► the right ish third of the of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► single continuous thing that it does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► different thing than if you swipe down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► on the other two-thirds but because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► notch is there it gives them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► essentially a button like a physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► outlined thing that says this place is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► different than the other place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:45 ◼ ► people can be forgiven for thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7485">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► it's right the air versus left here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:49 ◼ ► it's really righty air versus anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7489">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► else in the entire bar as notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► which lets people continue their muscle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► memory of swipe from the top and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► right Marko that the top is top of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► than it used to be so we'll see how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7497">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► goes but that still works because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► don't know how many I mean I pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► notification down from the center middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► of my phone and if you continue to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► that it will keep working and since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► can reach the center middle of my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► to get notifications I feel I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► probably get to the ear I guess we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► all find out but they do have like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► have they have options because it is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► screened they've got a bunch of multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► edges they could even somehow work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► into the bottom yeah give them some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► to work it out but I'm I'm mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► optimistic about how this is gonna work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► especially for you know for poor people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► with the giant plus like I hope this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► phone brings people down is the plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► just look you can get not as many pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► but more how do you feel about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► don't know maybe won't work people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► people like their giant phones well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► so indeed on on that part though like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► hold on really really quickly yeah do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► you feel like this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► difficult for more novice users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► maybe the answer is no novice users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:55 ◼ ► don't even really know what control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7555">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► center is or Notification Center for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7556">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► that matter but I don't know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7558">TS</a>]
02:05:59 ◼ ► one of the things that I think was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7559">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► great about the iPhone was that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► always had a physical button to press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► when you needed to get out of jail like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► you you're you needed a parachute maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► it's a better analogy and and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► noticed on Erin's card just bear with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► unearned support which is a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► there are there are occasions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:22 ◼ ► especially there were occasions when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7582">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► got in some screen somewhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► navigation and I was like I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► where I am and it was nice to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► find you I could see this physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:32 ◼ ► button that I could just mash down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7592">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► and I went back home I'm probably I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:38 ◼ ► probably over blowing the issue here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7598">TS</a>]
02:06:41 ◼ ► and well I don't even know that it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7601">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► issue but I wonder I can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► wonder if this is gonna be difficult so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:46 ◼ ► say you're like 70 or 80 year old you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7606">TS</a>]
02:06:49 ◼ ► know grandparents who maybe is just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7609">TS</a>]
02:06:51 ◼ ► getting a an iPhone for the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7611">TS</a>]
02:06:54 ◼ ► time like you need to explain to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7614">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► well if you want to go home you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7616">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► swipe up but don't don't swipe up only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7617">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► an inch or so because then you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► to multitasking you need to swipe all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:02 ◼ ► the way up and where do you swipe from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7622">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► well just from the bottom well where on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:06 ◼ ► the bottom just from the body you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7626">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► what I mean like I feel like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:09 ◼ ► it's a the home button was already so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► overloaded where single tap does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:14 ◼ ► except when it doesn't double tap does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7634">TS</a>]
02:07:15 ◼ ► that except when it doesn't double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7635">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► double touch but not tap is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► else entirely which by the way is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► away it it just seems like there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:25 ◼ ► here and I'm a little worried that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7645">TS</a>]
02:07:27 ◼ ► for not us it's going to be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7647">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► more challenging but am I am I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:32 ◼ ► being a big baby well apples doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7652">TS</a>]
02:07:35 ◼ ► thing apples doing something that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7655">TS</a>]
02:07:37 ◼ ► think is smart where they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7657">TS</a>]
02:07:38 ◼ ► shedding the previous conventions as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7658">TS</a>]
02:07:42 ◼ ► bulk of their user base has become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7662">TS</a>]
02:07:45 ◼ ► sophisticated because they grow up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7665">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► phones or have used a lot of them so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:50 ◼ ► the same way they got rid of slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7670">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► unlock and like oh now there's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► animated arrow saying slide here dummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:57 ◼ ► to unlock your phone now the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7677">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► screens thing but how people tell can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► they see that subtle simple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:01 ◼ ► figured it out like I'm mostly convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7681">TS</a>]
02:08:03 ◼ ► of the the fact this will be successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7683">TS</a>]
02:08:06 ◼ ► by seeing people in the wider world use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7686">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► android phones which very often have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:12 ◼ ► basically soft buttons like buttons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7692">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► don't press in but they're just symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► but you can press which are pretty awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► I think because there's not even any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► sort of good haptic feedback in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► cases and lots of swiping gestures and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► see people navigating these things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► no problem they're just basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:26 ◼ ► minefield of touch sensitive icons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7706">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► back buttons and home things and swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► gestures that are all different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► phone to phone depending on what carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► crapware is on there and what version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► Android you're using a huge variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:38 ◼ ► fairly complicated swipes and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7718">TS</a>]
02:08:39 ◼ ► right about it being difficult more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7719">TS</a>]
02:08:41 ◼ ► difficult to action than pressing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7721">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► button and that is a problem but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► bulk of the market I think the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► has become more sophisticated because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:48 ◼ ► they're spending more times with phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7728">TS</a>]
02:08:49 ◼ ► and appropriately phone vendors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7729">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► affordances that were required in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:56 ◼ ► past to let people understand how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7736">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► hell you use a phone that doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7738">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► physical keyboard and doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► physical buttons it doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► number keys that becomes less and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► necessary and so I you know Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:07 ◼ ► mostly catching up with the Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7747">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► world in terms of how featureless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► swipey the front of the phone is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► I think is it's the right thing to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► would be good if they could come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► some kind of better more comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:25 ◼ ► difficulty with swipe gestures which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7765">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► includes me a lot of the time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:31 ◼ ► think I think it's I think it's going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7771">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► the right direction I think this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:34 ◼ ► this step by step progression is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7774">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► right thing to do did they overstep this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► time by a little bit I think it may just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:39 ◼ ► be in the details like marco was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7779">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► like okay well maybe the idea is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► all screen is right but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:45 ◼ ► rejigger things to figure out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7785">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► reachable and what's commonly used and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:48 ◼ ► stuff like that so Marco tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7788">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► the screens all right so we have kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► jumped through a million hoops with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7795">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► iPhone 10 in order to get this edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7797">TS</a>]
02:10:00 ◼ ► edge screen and the reason we wanted an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7800">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► edge to edge screen with asterisks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► some of that but the reason we wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:06 ◼ ► that is because we wanted to fit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7806">TS</a>]
02:10:08 ◼ ► bigger screen into a smaller phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7808">TS</a>]
02:10:12 ◼ ► if you look at how big the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7812">TS</a>]
02:10:14 ◼ ► versus how big the phone is and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7814">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► consider the amount of space you're now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:21 ◼ ► losing in that big screen to things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7821">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► indicator and the margins around these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► compelling than I would have wanted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► to be the important thing to realize and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► I think I think this is gonna bite a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► of plus fans I think a lot of Plus fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:41 ◼ ► are gonna upgrade this phone thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7841">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► that it's going to give them the plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► size screen in a smaller phone but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:47 ◼ ► isn't that much smaller and the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7847">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► is not plus sized at least not the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7849">TS</a>]
02:10:52 ◼ ► you might think so the iPhone six seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7852">TS</a>]
02:10:57 ◼ ► screens are 375 points wide so is the X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7857">TS</a>]
02:11:02 ◼ ► sorry 10 the plus is 414 so it's three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7862">TS</a>]
02:11:08 ◼ ► five versus 414 and width the iPhone 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7868">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► is the same width we did not gain any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:14 ◼ ► width which means things like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7874">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► scrolling for example in Instagram or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► any kind of photo stream thing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► photos aren't going to be any bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► you'll be able to fit more than one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:24 ◼ ► screen maybe but it's going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7884">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► same width as the small phones have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:31 ◼ ► presumably going to be the same width so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7891">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► if you were one of the people like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:35 ◼ ► who found it more comfortable to type on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7895">TS</a>]
02:11:37 ◼ ► the plus you won't get that here with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7897">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► the iPhone time it is the same width as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:43 ◼ ► the height is substantially bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7903">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► the plus so the height of the six seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:49 ◼ ► eight is 667 and these are all points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7909">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► not pixels the plus is 736 and the 10 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► 812 that is awesome so you're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► much taller lists however you're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► losing some height due to the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:04 ◼ ► indicator the drag indicator thing due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7924">TS</a>]
02:12:06 ◼ ► to the margin around it and due to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7926">TS</a>]
02:12:08 ◼ ► now taller status ears / status bar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7928">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► if you actually consider if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► the numbers and if you see the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► what I would call the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:20 ◼ ► application that includes displaying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7940">TS</a>]
02:12:22 ◼ ► status bar on all phones then how big is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7942">TS</a>]
02:12:26 ◼ ► the area between the status bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7946">TS</a>]
02:12:28 ◼ ► either the bottom of the screen or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7948">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► the case of the iPhone 10 where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:33 ◼ ► go before you hit the home indicator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7953">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► so basically how much area does an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► have for its content and the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► there is pretty small so again we're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:43 ◼ ► same width between the old 6 7 & 8 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7963">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► the iPhone 10 the height though is 647 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:51 ◼ ► for the smaller screens 7 16 for a + & 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7971">TS</a>]
02:12:55 ◼ ► 34 for the 10 so it is the tallest it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7975">TS</a>]
02:12:59 ◼ ► taller than the plus in usable area but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7979">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► basically getting is the same width for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:09 ◼ ► sure as the smaller screen phones a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7989">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► little bit taller usable area than the + [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:15 ◼ ► phones in a phone that is bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7995">TS</a>]
02:13:19 ◼ ► the small phones but smaller than plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/7999">TS</a>]
02:13:22 ◼ ► and I'm not and so and in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8002">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► that we had to change and give up a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:28 ◼ ► we had to lose touch ID we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8008">TS</a>]
02:13:31 ◼ ► engineer this entire face ID system we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8011">TS</a>]
02:13:33 ◼ ► had to change the way Apps used the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8013">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► screen developers have tons of design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:38 ◼ ► changes to do also now those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8018">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► corners are now very rounded so we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► to stay away from the corners or design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:44 ◼ ► around that we have to design around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8024">TS</a>]
02:13:47 ◼ ► knotch and we have to use the ears and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► fullscreen things have a lot of work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► do to either avoid the notch or go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:56 ◼ ► around it in a way that doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8036">TS</a>]
02:13:57 ◼ ► weird or suck this has been a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8037">TS</a>]
02:14:00 ◼ ► work and a lot of effort and the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8040">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► and for the people who use the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:04 ◼ ► phones like me the phone is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8044">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► larger for a screen that is not wider at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► all and is pretty tall which is nice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:15 ◼ ► I don't know is that good enough for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8055">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► it's like all the sacrifices that had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:21 ◼ ► be made all the workarounds all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8061">TS</a>]
02:14:24 ◼ ► hacks all the UI changes and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8064">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► developer effort that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:27 ◼ ► required both an apple and outside to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8067">TS</a>]
02:14:30 ◼ ► accommodate all this craziness in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8070">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► new phone is that worth a screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:35 ◼ ► isn't any wider and it's just taller so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8075">TS</a>]
02:14:38 ◼ ► I don't know if this size is the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8078">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► set of compromises but this design all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:43 ◼ ► screen gesture blah blah blah like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8083">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► said I am optimistic that this design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:48 ◼ ► will actually in the end be a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8088">TS</a>]
02:14:51 ◼ ► overall design and when there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8091">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► entire family of phones including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8092">TS</a>]
02:14:54 ◼ ► big one and the smaller one that are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8094">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► like this with ears then there's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8097">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► pressure on this one phone to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► right trade-off we do you know this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:04 ◼ ► know but change UI paradigm and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8104">TS</a>]
02:15:06 ◼ ► these sacrifices for not that much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8106">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► screen well you make something the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► so plus with edge to edge screen that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► there's way more screen there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:14 ◼ ► because you're getting rid of a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:16 ◼ ► large chin and forehead on that phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8116">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► because they're just so darn big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► know and and yet diminishing returns as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► you go smaller because the chin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► forehead are smaller on the smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:28 ◼ ► compromise especially if the width is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8128">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► the same but the phone is actually wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8129">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► which I believe is the case so the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:32 ◼ ► is physically wider but the screen has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8132">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► then again it could be that just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► what's the is this a 3x this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► thing wasn't that wasn't clear to me yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:41 ◼ ► and and and to give them full credit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8141">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► is a true 3x the plus never has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:46 ◼ ► true 3x the plus has been 3x pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8146">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► rendered down to a 1080p panel and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► actually is real 3x so it is four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:55 ◼ ► hundred and fifty eight dots per inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8155">TS</a>]
02:15:57 ◼ ► instead of 401 so it's going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8157">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► incredible and an OLED has benefits to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:03 ◼ ► like oh that's gonna have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8163">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► better contrast and everything so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► but I I just I can't believe we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:09 ◼ ► gain any width but by making the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8169">TS</a>]
02:16:12 ◼ ► bigger and going edge to edge if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8172">TS</a>]
02:16:14 ◼ ► made something you know a hundred points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8174">TS</a>]
02:16:16 ◼ ► wide and you measured it with a ruler is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8176">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► that is it wider on this phone than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:21 ◼ ► is on the six seven I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8181">TS</a>]
02:16:24 ◼ ► answer to that I don't I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8184">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► important aspect of making a phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► is physically larger well the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► points is the same is that things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► bigger for people with poor vision so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:36 ◼ ► slightly anyway and I know you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8196">TS</a>]
02:16:39 ◼ ► zooming and all the Texas sizes have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8199">TS</a>]
02:16:40 ◼ ► good anyway I'm I am less concerned with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8200">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► whether this exact size is the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:45 ◼ ► compromise because I truly believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8205">TS</a>]
02:16:49 ◼ ► the this design will spread across all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8209">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► of them and once it does this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:52 ◼ ► goes away because then you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8212">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► worry about like like first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8213">TS</a>]
02:16:55 ◼ ► think the changes in the sacrifices plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8215">TS</a>]
02:16:58 ◼ ► or minus the notch which I will still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8218">TS</a>]
02:16:59 ◼ ► get to are worth it if this is a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8219">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► way to interact with phones than having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:04 ◼ ► dedicated buttons on the face ID is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8224">TS</a>]
02:17:06 ◼ ► actually better than touch ID and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8226">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► know overall despite you know the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► cases where one might be the other if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:13 ◼ ► arbitrarily swiping from the bottom is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8233">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► better than having to find home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:17 ◼ ► in the middle like if all this turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8237">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► to be true then I'm you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► it'll all come out in the wash because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:23 ◼ ► they're not going to just make one size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8243">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► of this or whatever and I would assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:26 ◼ ► that they did they have some experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8246">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► with sizes now they could have made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► phone any size right they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:34 ◼ ► they could have chosen to make it wider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8254">TS</a>]
02:17:35 ◼ ► or shorter or taller and this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8255">TS</a>]
02:17:37 ◼ ► they came up with and I'm hoping that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8257">TS</a>]
02:17:40 ◼ ► the size is a reasonable compromise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8260">TS</a>]
02:17:42 ◼ ► think they did a good job with the seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8262">TS</a>]
02:17:43 ◼ ► the six size right that it is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8263">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► good compromise when you have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:49 ◼ ► not as big as the plus the plus of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8269">TS</a>]
02:17:50 ◼ ► course is ridiculous but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8270">TS</a>]
02:17:52 ◼ ► people want so they want a ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8272">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► phone and they got one so I I'm I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► I'm less worried than you Marco but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8277">TS</a>]
02:17:59 ◼ ► this one is the wrong size for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8279">TS</a>]
02:18:02 ◼ ► give him a couple years I hope I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8282">TS</a>]
02:18:05 ◼ ► they'll work it out and honestly I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8285">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► be III would caution people who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:11 ◼ ► love the Plus this might not be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8291">TS</a>]
02:18:14 ◼ ► phone for you oh no this is not for Plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8294">TS</a>]
02:18:16 ◼ ► lovers who absolutely need the plus like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8296">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► that's that's why I'm telling my wife to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► get it even though she is a plus lover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► I'm gonna have to talk to her about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:23 ◼ ► fact like you realize there's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8303">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► less stuff on the screen like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:27 ◼ ► smaller phone and it's not gonna look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8307">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► like your Plus does it's not gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:31 ◼ ► all that stuff on it so but yeah if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8311">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► love the Plus this is probably not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:36 ◼ ► because it's just it's gonna feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8316">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► using a big seven at all seven he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:42 ◼ ► gonna get all that all that extra room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8322">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► which like I said I think it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:45 ◼ ► because I'm I know that there's a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8325">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► monster aircraft carrier version of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► phone coming in the year or two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:53 ◼ ► and so the plus people will have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8333">TS</a>]
02:18:56 ◼ ► day and they'll have so much damn screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8336">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► they won't know what to do with it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8337">TS</a>]
02:18:59 ◼ ► it can be called the 10 L it'll come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8339">TS</a>]
02:19:01 ◼ ► with a stylus it'll be great so I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8341">TS</a>]
02:19:04 ◼ ► with Marco though I think it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8344">TS</a>]
02:19:06 ◼ ► very interesting and very funny to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8346">TS</a>]
02:19:08 ◼ ► you know many of our mutual friends who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8348">TS</a>]
02:19:12 ◼ ► oh it's Plus Club or nothing plus Club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8352">TS</a>]
02:19:14 ◼ ► or nothing and and I think they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8354">TS</a>]
02:19:16 ◼ ► have some really conflicting thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8356">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► and some really uncomfortable thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► about them they all have to get it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:21 ◼ ► they can talk about it on their tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8361">TS</a>]
02:19:22 ◼ ► podcast right but I think there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8362">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► crumbly they'd like I bet a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:30 ◼ ► will say I wouldn't buy this phone if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8370">TS</a>]
02:19:32 ◼ ► wasn't for the fact that I need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8372">TS</a>]
02:19:35 ◼ ► informed about it and talk about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8375">TS</a>]
02:19:36 ◼ ► like you know I mean like that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8376">TS</a>]
02:19:38 ◼ ► that they're taking one for the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8378">TS</a>]
02:19:39 ◼ ► because they have to write and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8379">TS</a>]
02:19:42 ◼ ► some of them will just buy three phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8382">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► and just use that one to play with or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:46 ◼ ► whatever yeah we're going long so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8386">TS</a>]
02:19:50 ◼ ► yeah I have a little bit it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8390">TS</a>]
02:19:53 ◼ ► way more that we can say other notch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8393">TS</a>]
02:19:55 ◼ ► maybe we'll save something late for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8395">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► future episode but the one thing I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8397">TS</a>]
02:19:58 ◼ ► to say about the notch is this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8398">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► time to say exactly the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:02 ◼ ► alluded to earlier about the LTE on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8402">TS</a>]
02:20:05 ◼ ► watch the knotch Apple doesn't want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8405">TS</a>]
02:20:09 ◼ ► notch the notch is there because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8409">TS</a>]
02:20:11 ◼ ► to be to get the job done Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8411">TS</a>]
02:20:14 ◼ ► nothing more than to make this exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8414">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► phone with no notch on it Apple is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► to do everything that it possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:19 ◼ ► over the next five years or so to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8419">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► rid of that damn notch for this screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:22 ◼ ► can goes edge to edge right they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8422">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► doing the sort of hang a lantern on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:26 ◼ ► thing where we had to do this notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8426">TS</a>]
02:20:28 ◼ ► thing we couldn't figure out a way not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8428">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► to have it so we have to embrace it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:33 ◼ ► have to say we're not trying to hide the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8433">TS</a>]
02:20:34 ◼ ► notch we acknowledge that it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8434">TS</a>]
02:20:36 ◼ ► we're gonna do all sorts of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8436">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► incorporate it into the UI and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► an aesthetic and so super totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:41 ◼ ► embrace the notch in the ways we'll all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8441">TS</a>]
02:20:42 ◼ ► discuss here but Apple make no mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8442">TS</a>]
02:20:45 ◼ ► Apple wants to get rid of that notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8445">TS</a>]
02:20:47 ◼ ► they want it to be top to bottom left to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8447">TS</a>]
02:20:49 ◼ ► right edge Johnny I've wants to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8449">TS</a>]
02:20:51 ◼ ► retire or die before you can do that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8451">TS</a>]
02:20:53 ◼ ► might not make it but they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8453">TS</a>]
02:20:55 ◼ ► that notch there so the clock begins now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8455">TS</a>]
02:20:57 ◼ ► and apples team's working two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8457">TS</a>]
02:20:59 ◼ ► phones out are already trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8459">TS</a>]
02:21:02 ◼ ► out how the hell they can get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8462">TS</a>]
02:21:03 ◼ ► that notch so where people may hate them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8463">TS</a>]
02:21:06 ◼ ► on the notch and hate all the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8466">TS</a>]
02:21:08 ◼ ► compromises did it require some software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8468">TS</a>]
02:21:09 ◼ ► and it's going to be painful and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8469">TS</a>]
02:21:11 ◼ ► gonna be annoying and it'll have varying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8471">TS</a>]
02:21:13 ◼ ► degrees of ridiculousness but I am very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8473">TS</a>]
02:21:16 ◼ ► very confident this is not a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8476">TS</a>]
02:21:18 ◼ ► Apple did not set out to make a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8478">TS</a>]
02:21:20 ◼ ► with a notch this is just what they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8480">TS</a>]
02:21:22 ◼ ► to do and I think it's the right trade I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8482">TS</a>]
02:21:24 ◼ ► don't think they should have waited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8484">TS</a>]
02:21:26 ◼ ► until they could have done this home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8486">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► without a notch to to do it I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► should do it now whether they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:32 ◼ ► have embraced the notch as much as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8492">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► did it's arguable but I remain confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:37 ◼ ► that we will have top to bottom edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8497">TS</a>]
02:21:39 ◼ ► edge screen it's probably from Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8499">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► makers first but eventually also from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:41 ◼ ► Apple I'm still bummed about embrace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8501">TS</a>]
02:21:44 ◼ ► knotch like I haven't seen it I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8504">TS</a>]
02:21:47 ◼ ► held it I've played with it but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8507">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► I don't know I from everything I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:52 ◼ ► when people have mocked up the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8512">TS</a>]
02:21:55 ◼ ► kind of hide the notch approach where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8515">TS</a>]
02:21:57 ◼ ► the where the top bar adjacent to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8517">TS</a>]
02:21:59 ◼ ► notch is just black it's it's still to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8519">TS</a>]
02:22:03 ◼ ► me looks better but asked me again in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8523">TS</a>]
02:22:05 ◼ ► well I was going to say in a month but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8525">TS</a>]
02:22:07 ◼ ► won't have one in a month but as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8527">TS</a>]
02:22:10 ◼ ► humor interface guidelines which many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8530">TS</a>]
02:22:12 ◼ ► people are quoting from the sections do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8532">TS</a>]
02:22:15 ◼ ► devices rounded corners sensor housing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8535">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► sensor housing it's not a notch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:18 ◼ ► indicator do not they're telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8538">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► don't try it you must embrace notch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:24 ◼ ► whatever the hell they want so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8544">TS</a>]
02:22:26 ◼ ► it'll be interesting to see how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8546">TS</a>]
02:22:27 ◼ ► decide to do that do they follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8547">TS</a>]
02:22:29 ◼ ► Apple advice and say totally embrace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8549">TS</a>]
02:22:30 ◼ ► notch or do they decide to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8550">TS</a>]
02:22:32 ◼ ► status bar black and not embrace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8552">TS</a>]
02:22:34 ◼ ► notch it's a thing like I have a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8554">TS</a>]
02:22:36 ◼ ► big problem with my now playing screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8556">TS</a>]
02:22:37 ◼ ► yeah I mean but it's all it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8557">TS</a>]
02:22:41 ◼ ► programmer addressable there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8561">TS</a>]
02:22:43 ◼ ► trickery to make it seem like the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8563">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► is smaller than it is like applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:47 ◼ ► it seems have the ability to draw pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8567">TS</a>]
02:22:51 ◼ ► much anywhere on the screen I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8571">TS</a>]
02:22:52 ◼ ► if they can draw a little home in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8572">TS</a>]
02:22:54 ◼ ► together under the home indicator thingy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8574">TS</a>]
02:22:55 ◼ ► but lots of the by the way Apple raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8575">TS</a>]
02:22:58 ◼ ► a tons of sort of like WWC videos not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8578">TS</a>]
02:23:00 ◼ ► WWDC you know how to do this they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8580">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► about like here's your margins in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:04 ◼ ► safe area and stay away from the rounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8584">TS</a>]
02:23:05 ◼ ► corners all within set since it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8585">TS</a>]
02:23:08 ◼ ► idea that you know I haven't watched his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8588">TS</a>]
02:23:10 ◼ ► videos yet but looking at the diagrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8590">TS</a>]
02:23:11 ◼ ► I'm thinking oh that means developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8591">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► have to program all these in sets in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:16 ◼ ► just work for them but it also means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8596">TS</a>]
02:23:17 ◼ ► that if they don't do that like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8597">TS</a>]
02:23:19 ◼ ► watch they could draw right to the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8599">TS</a>]
02:23:21 ◼ ► and look stupid right and have it be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8601">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► I know the watch is absolute are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:25 ◼ ► supposed to draw the edge anyway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8605">TS</a>]
02:23:26 ◼ ► could draw right up against these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8606">TS</a>]
02:23:28 ◼ ► rounded corners and look bad in fact I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8608">TS</a>]
02:23:30 ◼ ► believe during the keynote or one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8610">TS</a>]
02:23:32 ◼ ► commercials I think it was during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8612">TS</a>]
02:23:33 ◼ ► keynote video they showed that a our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8613">TS</a>]
02:23:35 ◼ ► game that they were doing a demo from I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8615">TS</a>]
02:23:38 ◼ ► commercial with the other thing and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8618">TS</a>]
02:23:40 ◼ ► of the status indicators on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8620">TS</a>]
02:23:41 ◼ ► in the air our game was clipped by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8621">TS</a>]
02:23:43 ◼ ► knotch because it was too far to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8623">TS</a>]
02:23:45 ◼ ► left is outside the safe area it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8625">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► circle it was like the flat tire Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:49 ◼ ► phone speaking of things with screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8629">TS</a>]
02:23:51 ◼ ► cut off it was clipped by the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8631">TS</a>]
02:23:53 ◼ ► because they just hadn't updated it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8633">TS</a>]
02:23:54 ◼ ► move everything over and in fact if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8634">TS</a>]
02:23:56 ◼ ► had moved it over I just got to shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8636">TS</a>]
02:23:57 ◼ ► those circles right so in a way software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8637">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► developers are going to decide this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:05 ◼ ► much as Apple Apple can tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8645">TS</a>]
02:24:07 ◼ ► they want everybody to do but if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8647">TS</a>]
02:24:10 ◼ ► sort of consensus of software developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8650">TS</a>]
02:24:12 ◼ ► isn't yeah we're not gonna brace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8652">TS</a>]
02:24:13 ◼ ► notch then they won't and it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8653">TS</a>]
02:24:15 ◼ ► fine I've only heard sporadic reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8655">TS</a>]
02:24:18 ◼ ► from people who use these phones in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8658">TS</a>]
02:24:20 ◼ ► life the impression I get is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8660">TS</a>]
02:24:23 ◼ ► notch is less onerous when using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8663">TS</a>]
02:24:25 ◼ ► phone then when watching it on video I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8665">TS</a>]
02:24:28 ◼ ► when using the phone you're not looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8668">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► at that part kind of like Marco is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:31 ◼ ► looking at the back of his phone that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8671">TS</a>]
02:24:32 ◼ ► all scratched up right you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8672">TS</a>]
02:24:34 ◼ ► looking where the content is and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8674">TS</a>]
02:24:35 ◼ ► kind of get over it but it is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8675">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► work for developers and there are lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:41 ◼ ► of awkward / funny things related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8681">TS</a>]
02:24:43 ◼ ► this one of the two best ones we'll put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8683">TS</a>]
02:24:46 ◼ ► these links in the show notes Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8686">TS</a>]
02:24:47 ◼ ► Packard had a interesting bit where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8687">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► the scroll bar you know when you scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:52 ◼ ► in iOS that little line appears to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8692">TS</a>]
02:24:53 ◼ ► of the proportional scrollbar that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8693">TS</a>]
02:24:55 ◼ ► can actually grab and scroll like shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8695">TS</a>]
02:24:57 ◼ ► you where you are with that hiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8697">TS</a>]
02:24:58 ◼ ► underneath a notch when you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8698">TS</a>]
02:24:59 ◼ ► landscape lots of fun stuff happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8699">TS</a>]
02:25:01 ◼ ► your landscape like you'd scroll it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8701">TS</a>]
02:25:02 ◼ ► like where's the scroll thumb nope it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8702">TS</a>]
02:25:04 ◼ ► under the notch and you scroll and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8704">TS</a>]
02:25:05 ◼ ► don't see anything update popped up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8705">TS</a>]
02:25:06 ◼ ► the top and popped up on the bottom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8706">TS</a>]
02:25:07 ◼ ► the other one was books just avec did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8707">TS</a>]
02:25:11 ◼ ► a joke posted look I fixed the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8711">TS</a>]
02:25:14 ◼ ► where he had scrolling going by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8714">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► notch amazing it's like a bunch of names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:19 ◼ ► and they're up against it's the Beatles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8719">TS</a>]
02:25:20 ◼ ► names and they're up against the edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8720">TS</a>]
02:25:22 ◼ ► the screen but then when they hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8722">TS</a>]
02:25:27 ◼ ► disaster it's not a disaster if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8727">TS</a>]
02:25:28 ◼ ► don't if you don't embrace it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8728">TS</a>]
02:25:30 ◼ ► just black it off and now you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8730">TS</a>]
02:25:31 ◼ ► a screen that is slightly offset and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8731">TS</a>]
02:25:34 ◼ ► people are worried about like they kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8734">TS</a>]
02:25:35 ◼ ► showing in the presentation here's video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8735">TS</a>]
02:25:36 ◼ ► with a notch cut out of it which as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8736">TS</a>]
02:25:40 ◼ ► complaints about like the slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8740">TS</a>]
02:25:42 ◼ ► rounded corners of a QuickTime Player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8742">TS</a>]
02:25:44 ◼ ► years ago pissed me off now this phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8744">TS</a>]
02:25:46 ◼ ► has super rounded corners that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8746">TS</a>]
02:25:47 ◼ ► no choice because literally the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8747">TS</a>]
02:25:49 ◼ ► is rounded like there is they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8749">TS</a>]
02:25:50 ◼ ► just not lighting up those pixels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8750">TS</a>]
02:25:52 ◼ ► there's nothing there forget it and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8752">TS</a>]
02:25:54 ◼ ► you're gonna show video with a notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8754">TS</a>]
02:25:56 ◼ ► intruding into it no never but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8756">TS</a>]
02:25:58 ◼ ► is that's not not only do you not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8758">TS</a>]
02:26:00 ◼ ► to do that that's not even the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8760">TS</a>]
02:26:01 ◼ ► when you play video it will play as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8761">TS</a>]
02:26:04 ◼ ► rectangle and you will see every part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8764">TS</a>]
02:26:06 ◼ ► it it will be inset because it's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8766">TS</a>]
02:26:08 ◼ ► stay away from the rounded corners and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8768">TS</a>]
02:26:09 ◼ ► it's got to stay away from the notch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8769">TS</a>]
02:26:12 ◼ ► it's fine and that as far as I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8772">TS</a>]
02:26:14 ◼ ► is the default on the built-in video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8774">TS</a>]
02:26:16 ◼ ► players like in Safari and Apple videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8776">TS</a>]
02:26:19 ◼ ► if you double tap it it will zoom to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8779">TS</a>]
02:26:21 ◼ ► full screen and then you'll be playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8781">TS</a>]
02:26:23 ◼ ► video behind a notch and you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8783">TS</a>]
02:26:24 ◼ ► losing all the corners but if you zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8784">TS</a>]
02:26:26 ◼ ► to full screen on an iPhone today unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8786">TS</a>]
02:26:28 ◼ ► your video is exactly the same aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8788">TS</a>]
02:26:30 ◼ ► ratios your phone which it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8790">TS</a>]
02:26:32 ◼ ► isn't if it's like a movie or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8792">TS</a>]
02:26:34 ◼ ► if you zoom to full screen you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8794">TS</a>]
02:26:36 ◼ ► already cutting off sides too so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8796">TS</a>]
02:26:41 ◼ ► in the rounded corners in terms of video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8801">TS</a>]
02:26:42 ◼ ► playing I think it will probably be ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8802">TS</a>]
02:26:46 ◼ ► but apples apples big push to embrace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8806">TS</a>]
02:26:50 ◼ ► is kind of I mean I mention hang a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8810">TS</a>]
02:26:54 ◼ ► lantern on before which is a narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8814">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► device where there's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8816">TS</a>]
02:26:57 ◼ ► I hope I'm getting this right God in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8817">TS</a>]
02:26:59 ◼ ► Corrections where something doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8819">TS</a>]
02:27:00 ◼ ► sense in a movie and you know it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8820">TS</a>]
02:27:04 ◼ ► make sense and you don't want people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8824">TS</a>]
02:27:06 ◼ ► saying oh I did that scene was messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8826">TS</a>]
02:27:08 ◼ ► because I didn't that wasn't plausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8828">TS</a>]
02:27:10 ◼ ► to me so what you do is you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8830">TS</a>]
02:27:11 ◼ ► character in the movie say out loud what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8831">TS</a>]
02:27:14 ◼ ► the audience is thinking so like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8834">TS</a>]
02:27:16 ◼ ► know we shouldn't be getting readings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8836">TS</a>]
02:27:17 ◼ ► like this they're impossible but we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8837">TS</a>]
02:27:19 ◼ ► and as soon as you have them say that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8839">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► hanging a lantern another thing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:22 ◼ ► audience knows is impossible suddenly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8842">TS</a>]
02:27:24 ◼ ► seems okay because then you the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8844">TS</a>]
02:27:26 ◼ ► in the movie are acknowledging the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8846">TS</a>]
02:27:27 ◼ ► that you're all thinking so by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8847">TS</a>]
02:27:29 ◼ ► hanging Lantern on the knotch like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8849">TS</a>]
02:27:32 ◼ ► should be able to wipe all the pics on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8852">TS</a>]
02:27:33 ◼ ► the screen but there's this giant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8853">TS</a>]
02:27:34 ◼ ► there and Apple says that yeah there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8854">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► giant thing there and we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:37 ◼ ► emphasize it they're kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8857">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► situation because nobody wants the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:43 ◼ ► knotch but if there's gonna be a knotch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8863">TS</a>]
02:27:44 ◼ ► they are embracing it and they want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8864">TS</a>]
02:27:50 ◼ ► interesting aesthetic it kind of reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8870">TS</a>]
02:27:54 ◼ ► me of those little cards from rolodexes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8874">TS</a>]
02:27:57 ◼ ► which are actually before my time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8877">TS</a>]
02:27:58 ◼ ► actually that hold but like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8878">TS</a>]
02:28:00 ◼ ► little like cards with little notches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8880">TS</a>]
02:28:02 ◼ ► right it kind of reminds me of that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8882">TS</a>]
02:28:05 ◼ ► kind of an interesting aesthetic it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8885">TS</a>]
02:28:07 ◼ ► look a little bit like rabbit ears it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8887">TS</a>]
02:28:10 ◼ ► landscape and I feel bad for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8890">TS</a>]
02:28:12 ◼ ► software developers who have to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8892">TS</a>]
02:28:13 ◼ ► with it but you know you dealt with size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8893">TS</a>]
02:28:16 ◼ ► classes and going from fixed layouts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8896">TS</a>]
02:28:18 ◼ ► Auto layout and this is what I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8898">TS</a>]
02:28:21 ◼ ► big bucks right or or don't get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8901">TS</a>]
02:28:23 ◼ ► unless you know how to exploit people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8903">TS</a>]
02:28:24 ◼ ► free to play anyway I think it will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8904">TS</a>]
02:28:30 ◼ ► out but I am already awaiting the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8910">TS</a>]
02:28:32 ◼ ► when the notch goes away how long do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8912">TS</a>]
02:28:35 ◼ ► think that that is away from now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8915">TS</a>]
02:28:37 ◼ ► because if I had to guess I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8917">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► don't know it they might just stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:41 ◼ ► this because if you if you look at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8921">TS</a>]
02:28:43 ◼ ► the problem they're trying to solve here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8923">TS</a>]
02:28:45 ◼ ► they have a whole bunch of like sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8925">TS</a>]
02:28:48 ◼ ► and cameras and speakers and stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8928">TS</a>]
02:28:50 ◼ ► like for the phone for these things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8930">TS</a>]
02:28:52 ◼ ► work at all they pretty much need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8932">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► be facing forward and they clearly want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8935">TS</a>]
02:28:58 ◼ ► the screen to go to the top edge and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8938">TS</a>]
02:29:00 ◼ ► bottom edge so how would they get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8940">TS</a>]
02:29:03 ◼ ► the notch exactly would they somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8943">TS</a>]
02:29:06 ◼ ► just make those things so small they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8946">TS</a>]
02:29:09 ◼ ► would fit within the current bezel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8949">TS</a>]
02:29:11 ◼ ► that's above the screen you got it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8951">TS</a>]
02:29:14 ◼ ► they're not very good at making cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8954">TS</a>]
02:29:16 ◼ ► small like if you look like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8956">TS</a>]
02:29:18 ◼ ► this giant camera bump in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8958">TS</a>]
02:29:19 ◼ ► because to make a decent camera you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8959">TS</a>]
02:29:21 ◼ ► to you need a little bit of size I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8961">TS</a>]
02:29:23 ◼ ► don't see how they get how they retain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8963">TS</a>]
02:29:27 ◼ ► the super thin bezel around most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8967">TS</a>]
02:29:30 ◼ ► screen area while also fitting those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8970">TS</a>]
02:29:33 ◼ ► front sensors and that by the way now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8973">TS</a>]
02:29:34 ◼ ► there's more of them with face ID so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8974">TS</a>]
02:29:36 ◼ ► while also fitting those front sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8976">TS</a>]
02:29:38 ◼ ► into that I don't I don't know I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8978">TS</a>]
02:29:41 ◼ ► I don't see them getting rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8981">TS</a>]
02:29:43 ◼ ► knotch as long as they have this general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8983">TS</a>]
02:29:45 ◼ ► borderless design I think the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8985">TS</a>]
02:29:47 ◼ ► they can get rid of it is to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8987">TS</a>]
02:29:49 ◼ ► backtrack on part of this design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8989">TS</a>]
02:29:51 ◼ ► make something looks more like the s8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8991">TS</a>]
02:29:53 ◼ ► where it's like you know just thin top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8993">TS</a>]
02:29:56 ◼ ► and basel top and bottom bezel excuse me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8996">TS</a>]
02:29:58 ◼ ► so as people have pointed out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/8998">TS</a>]
02:30:00 ◼ ► screens not really edge to edge I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9000">TS</a>]
02:30:02 ◼ ► see where it doesn't go to the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9002">TS</a>]
02:30:03 ◼ ► there's a big black fan like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9003">TS</a>]
02:30:06 ◼ ► margins on this thing and and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9006">TS</a>]
02:30:08 ◼ ► said they could go Naturals next year by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9008">TS</a>]
02:30:09 ◼ ► just putting a very thin forehead on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9009">TS</a>]
02:30:11 ◼ ► they don't want to because they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9011">TS</a>]
02:30:12 ◼ ► feel the need to do a very thin chin as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9012">TS</a>]
02:30:14 ◼ ► well where they can put they could put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9014">TS</a>]
02:30:18 ◼ ► home button in a very thin chin because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9018">TS</a>]
02:30:20 ◼ ► if it doesn't need touch ID anymore then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9020">TS</a>]
02:30:22 ◼ ► it can be a little ski button you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9022">TS</a>]
02:30:27 ◼ ► right they're not but like like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9027">TS</a>]
02:30:29 ◼ ► look at if you look at the Galaxy s8 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9029">TS</a>]
02:30:31 ◼ ► have never said anything nice about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9031">TS</a>]
02:30:32 ◼ ► Android phone for good reason however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9032">TS</a>]
02:30:34 ◼ ► that's a very attractive design for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9034">TS</a>]
02:30:37 ◼ ► edge-to-edge screen phone and I and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9037">TS</a>]
02:30:39 ◼ ► that's a different set of trade-offs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9039">TS</a>]
02:30:41 ◼ ► yeah I'd like the storm on the back like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9041">TS</a>]
02:30:43 ◼ ► the fingerprint on the back is dumb but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9043">TS</a>]
02:30:44 ◼ ► like just if you look at just the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9044">TS</a>]
02:30:46 ◼ ► of the galaxy s 8 compared to the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9046">TS</a>]
02:30:49 ◼ ► 10 I have a hard time picking the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9049">TS</a>]
02:30:52 ◼ ► 10 in that comparison I think that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9052">TS</a>]
02:30:55 ◼ ► better but the way you get to the notch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9055">TS</a>]
02:30:58 ◼ ► list without even the thin forehead is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9058">TS</a>]
02:31:01 ◼ ► yeah like the march of progress can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9061">TS</a>]
02:31:03 ◼ ► some components smaller and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9063">TS</a>]
02:31:05 ◼ ► components can be under the screen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9065">TS</a>]
02:31:08 ◼ ► like create you know no one would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9068">TS</a>]
02:31:10 ◼ ► thought the cameras could be as small as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9070">TS</a>]
02:31:11 ◼ ► they are now you can make lesser quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9071">TS</a>]
02:31:16 ◼ ► front-facing camera is replaced by seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9076">TS</a>]
02:31:18 ◼ ► pinhole size cameras dotted along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9078">TS</a>]
02:31:21 ◼ ► top and the you know the the images are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9081">TS</a>]
02:31:22 ◼ ► combined from that the company that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9082">TS</a>]
02:31:24 ◼ ► have the friend who works for that light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9084">TS</a>]
02:31:26 ◼ ► camera thing like we're not saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9086">TS</a>]
02:31:28 ◼ ► is you know technology is available now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9088">TS</a>]
02:31:30 ◼ ► you couldn't make a with LTE on it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9090">TS</a>]
02:31:33 ◼ ► the Apple watch came out and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9093">TS</a>]
02:31:34 ◼ ► make a naturalist phone like this but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9094">TS</a>]
02:31:36 ◼ ► think you will be able to eventually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9096">TS</a>]
02:31:38 ◼ ► think there's nothing there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9098">TS</a>]
02:31:40 ◼ ► about the array of sensors that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9100">TS</a>]
02:31:41 ◼ ► think they can't hide them in an edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9101">TS</a>]
02:31:43 ◼ ► you know it's somewhere around the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9103">TS</a>]
02:31:46 ◼ ► of this phone in the space that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9106">TS</a>]
02:31:48 ◼ ► already provided because they don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9108">TS</a>]
02:31:51 ◼ ► all in the galaxy I see it goes way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9111">TS</a>]
02:31:54 ◼ ► farther to the edge right and left yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9114">TS</a>]
02:31:56 ◼ ► this phone does there is actually room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9116">TS</a>]
02:31:58 ◼ ► around it and you know if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9118">TS</a>]
02:32:00 ◼ ► willing to compromise a little bit add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9120">TS</a>]
02:32:02 ◼ ► two more pieces of paper with to the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9122">TS</a>]
02:32:04 ◼ ► right to which things in and get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9124">TS</a>]
02:32:05 ◼ ► couple like at the IR sensor underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9125">TS</a>]
02:32:07 ◼ ► the screen somehow or the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9127">TS</a>]
02:32:10 ◼ ► dot spreader underneath or like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9130">TS</a>]
02:32:14 ◼ ► like it will eventually happen and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9134">TS</a>]
02:32:16 ◼ ► design will become viable you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9136">TS</a>]
02:32:18 ◼ ► asked me how long I thought five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9138">TS</a>]
02:32:23 ◼ ► is my best guess I think it could come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9143">TS</a>]
02:32:26 ◼ ► sooner it depends on how about appetite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9146">TS</a>]
02:32:30 ◼ ► pressured to do it because everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9150">TS</a>]
02:32:32 ◼ ► loves the notch and their whole line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9152">TS</a>]
02:32:33 ◼ ► not bearing and just like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9153">TS</a>]
02:32:35 ◼ ► sailing and it's like why do you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9155">TS</a>]
02:32:37 ◼ ► didn't want the notch but now that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9157">TS</a>]
02:32:38 ◼ ► got it everybody loves it and everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9158">TS</a>]
02:32:39 ◼ ► software is written for it and why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9159">TS</a>]
02:32:41 ◼ ► we even change it that could delay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9161">TS</a>]
02:32:43 ◼ ► just because they don't want to go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9163">TS</a>]
02:32:44 ◼ ► it but I think technically plausible in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9164">TS</a>]
02:32:46 ◼ ► five years I couldn't even wager a guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9166">TS</a>]
02:32:49 ◼ ► I mean five seems reasonable but oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9169">TS</a>]
02:32:53 ◼ ► alright so we are running long face ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9173">TS</a>]
02:32:56 ◼ ► seems to be mostly what we expected I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9176">TS</a>]
02:33:00 ◼ ► think we we certainly got a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9180">TS</a>]
02:33:01 ◼ ► information about the the mechanics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9181">TS</a>]
02:33:04 ◼ ► behind it I thought it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9184">TS</a>]
02:33:06 ◼ ► fascinating that Schiller had talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9186">TS</a>]
02:33:09 ◼ ► about how they went in got Hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9189">TS</a>]
02:33:12 ◼ ► like makeup artists or whatever or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9192">TS</a>]
02:33:14 ◼ ► prosthetics artists in order to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9194">TS</a>]
02:33:16 ◼ ► these eerily realistic masks that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9196">TS</a>]
02:33:19 ◼ ► apparently employees would put on to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9199">TS</a>]
02:33:22 ◼ ► face ID it's apparently considerably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9202">TS</a>]
02:33:25 ◼ ► more secure than touch ID which seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9205">TS</a>]
02:33:29 ◼ ► identification I've ever heard or seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9209">TS</a>]
02:33:31 ◼ ► about or seen anything about seemed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9211">TS</a>]
02:33:33 ◼ ► easy to defeat whereas fingerprint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9213">TS</a>]
02:33:36 ◼ ► seemed much harder but I'm sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9216">TS</a>]
02:33:38 ◼ ► just because of crummy technology and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9218">TS</a>]
02:33:40 ◼ ► Apple says it's better I'm inclined to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9220">TS</a>]
02:33:42 ◼ ► believe it's better the reason it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9222">TS</a>]
02:33:44 ◼ ► better is because faces are so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9224">TS</a>]
02:33:45 ◼ ► bigger so the problem with things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9225">TS</a>]
02:33:47 ◼ ► feature size down there like the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9227">TS</a>]
02:33:49 ◼ ► of points they could sort of match up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9229">TS</a>]
02:33:51 ◼ ► your fingerprint like that the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9231">TS</a>]
02:33:53 ◼ ► are so small there's not that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9233">TS</a>]
02:33:54 ◼ ► things to sort of hang on to whereas you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9234">TS</a>]
02:33:56 ◼ ► look at the number of dots that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9236">TS</a>]
02:33:57 ◼ ► little dots prayer assuming those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9237">TS</a>]
02:33:58 ◼ ► diagrams are you remotely accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9238">TS</a>]
02:33:59 ◼ ► there's just more data points so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9239">TS</a>]
02:34:01 ◼ ► more places where things can vary then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9241">TS</a>]
02:34:04 ◼ ► on fingerprints plus people's fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9244">TS</a>]
02:34:06 ◼ ► don't even fit entirely it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9246">TS</a>]
02:34:07 ◼ ► sensor doesn't even cover your whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9247">TS</a>]
02:34:08 ◼ ► finger so you're just getting like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9248">TS</a>]
02:34:09 ◼ ► window snapshot of a finger so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9249">TS</a>]
02:34:12 ◼ ► as if oh my fingerprint is the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9252">TS</a>]
02:34:14 ◼ ► someone else's they can unlock my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9254">TS</a>]
02:34:15 ◼ ► no it's one tiny little square shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9255">TS</a>]
02:34:17 ◼ ► region of your finger maybe close enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9257">TS</a>]
02:34:20 ◼ ► in the few areas that the the touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9260">TS</a>]
02:34:22 ◼ ► sensor can identify as distinguishing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9262">TS</a>]
02:34:25 ◼ ► a potentially totally different point on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9265">TS</a>]
02:34:27 ◼ ► someone else's finger so I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9267">TS</a>]
02:34:30 ◼ ► because I mean touch ID makes this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9270">TS</a>]
02:34:31 ◼ ► know oh it unlocks on my finger and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9271">TS</a>]
02:34:33 ◼ ► great to no-one else in my family can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9273">TS</a>]
02:34:34 ◼ ► it and so unless you perfect because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9274">TS</a>]
02:34:35 ◼ ► have this mystique around fingerprints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9275">TS</a>]
02:34:37 ◼ ► but when it comes down to it it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9277">TS</a>]
02:34:38 ◼ ► bunch of little ridges and skin and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9278">TS</a>]
02:34:40 ◼ ► not even that many of them makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9280">TS</a>]
02:34:41 ◼ ► sensor small whereas this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9281">TS</a>]
02:34:43 ◼ ► spraying our entire face with tons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9283">TS</a>]
02:34:45 ◼ ► tons of data points of you know not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9285">TS</a>]
02:34:47 ◼ ► what it looks like but you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9287">TS</a>]
02:34:48 ◼ ► depth things and everything like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9288">TS</a>]
02:34:49 ◼ ► still don't understand exactly how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9289">TS</a>]
02:34:52 ◼ ► masks aren't able to defeat it but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9292">TS</a>]
02:34:55 ◼ ► take their word for it I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9295">TS</a>]
02:34:56 ◼ ► obviously you know some secret sauce in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9296">TS</a>]
02:34:58 ◼ ► there that can distinguish I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9298">TS</a>]
02:35:00 ◼ ► living things from nonliving maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9300">TS</a>]
02:35:01 ◼ ► heat signatures I mean I feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9301">TS</a>]
02:35:03 ◼ ► didn't reveal all their secrets here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9303">TS</a>]
02:35:05 ◼ ► because maybe competitive advantage or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9305">TS</a>]
02:35:06 ◼ ► whatever but we'll find out I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9306">TS</a>]
02:35:08 ◼ ► guarantee people are gonna start trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9308">TS</a>]
02:35:09 ◼ ► to fake this thing out with masks so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9309">TS</a>]
02:35:11 ◼ ► sure someone will well do touch I became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9311">TS</a>]
02:35:14 ◼ ► out people faked it out by listing peels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9314">TS</a>]
02:35:15 ◼ ► fingerprints from cups and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9315">TS</a>]
02:35:18 ◼ ► using like superglue or rubber cement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9318">TS</a>]
02:35:19 ◼ ► and stuff and defeating it it'll it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9319">TS</a>]
02:35:22 ◼ ► be defeatable and they did mention like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9322">TS</a>]
02:35:24 ◼ ► oh by the way your twin is a problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9324">TS</a>]
02:35:26 ◼ ► they didn't mention this explicitly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9326">TS</a>]
02:35:29 ◼ ► like maybe relatives that look a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9329">TS</a>]
02:35:30 ◼ ► like you might be more of a problem too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9330">TS</a>]
02:35:33 ◼ ► but you know I believe lesson this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9333">TS</a>]
02:35:37 ◼ ► when I can't you know as I came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9337">TS</a>]
02:35:39 ◼ ► believing in the idea of the all screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9339">TS</a>]
02:35:41 ◼ ► phone with the gestures like believing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9341">TS</a>]
02:35:42 ◼ ► that it could be good still having never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9342">TS</a>]
02:35:44 ◼ ► touch one of these face I'd be they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9344">TS</a>]
02:35:46 ◼ ► basically said all the things I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9346">TS</a>]
02:35:47 ◼ ► they were gonna say I have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9347">TS</a>]
02:35:50 ◼ ► attitude about it now which is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9350">TS</a>]
02:35:52 ◼ ► show me the unlock I have to have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9352">TS</a>]
02:35:54 ◼ ► as believing I had to try this myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9354">TS</a>]
02:35:56 ◼ ► because I love fast touch ID so much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9356">TS</a>]
02:35:58 ◼ ► my phone I believe like I said last show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9358">TS</a>]
02:36:02 ◼ ► I believe facial recognition can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9362">TS</a>]
02:36:04 ◼ ► better than touch ID for situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9364">TS</a>]
02:36:06 ◼ ► where the phone is able to see your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9366">TS</a>]
02:36:08 ◼ ► I'm not entirely consider first-gen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9368">TS</a>]
02:36:10 ◼ ► gonna be better than the second gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9370">TS</a>]
02:36:11 ◼ ► touch ID in terms of efficiency but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9371">TS</a>]
02:36:13 ◼ ► we'll see the speed of it is my one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9373">TS</a>]
02:36:16 ◼ ► concern I mean it's hard you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9376">TS</a>]
02:36:18 ◼ ► touch ID first came out we we all were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9378">TS</a>]
02:36:20 ◼ ► wary of it as well so it's hard to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9380">TS</a>]
02:36:22 ◼ ► before we've actually had a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9382">TS</a>]
02:36:24 ◼ ► use it how good it is or what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9384">TS</a>]
02:36:25 ◼ ► problem areas actually are but I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9385">TS</a>]
02:36:29 ◼ ► the they focus a lot on how it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9389">TS</a>]
02:36:31 ◼ ► and which I thought honestly was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9391">TS</a>]
02:36:33 ◼ ► little bit creepy the way the way it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9393">TS</a>]
02:36:34 ◼ ► presented I feel like spraying dots all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9394">TS</a>]
02:36:37 ◼ ► over people's faces and III didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9397">TS</a>]
02:36:39 ◼ ► it was explained well I just see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9399">TS</a>]
02:36:41 ◼ ► tweet that said the new iPhone will mace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9401">TS</a>]
02:36:43 ◼ ► you if you do a bad tweet this big big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9403">TS</a>]
02:36:47 ◼ ► code like I think that did them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9407">TS</a>]
02:36:48 ◼ ► disservice because it made it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9408">TS</a>]
02:36:50 ◼ ► that you were having an actual spotlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9410">TS</a>]
02:36:52 ◼ ► shine in your face but my understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9412">TS</a>]
02:36:53 ◼ ► is that it doesn't I mean you can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9413">TS</a>]
02:36:55 ◼ ► IR unless you're a bat right so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9415">TS</a>]
02:36:59 ◼ ► corrections from there anyway my like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9419">TS</a>]
02:37:04 ◼ ► some people had video where they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9424">TS</a>]
02:37:05 ◼ ► see a flashing sensor but video cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9425">TS</a>]
02:37:07 ◼ ► often pick up IR yes they did that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9427">TS</a>]
02:37:09 ◼ ► eyes don't so I don't know what to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9429">TS</a>]
02:37:11 ◼ ► of it but I think I think their demos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9431">TS</a>]
02:37:13 ◼ ► made it look more onerous than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9433">TS</a>]
02:37:15 ◼ ► yeah so like I I think it was presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9435">TS</a>]
02:37:17 ◼ ► poorly or explained poorly but I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9437">TS</a>]
02:37:22 ◼ ► that you know they focus on security and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9442">TS</a>]
02:37:23 ◼ ► how it worked but they never made any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9443">TS</a>]
02:37:25 ◼ ► speed comparisons to touch ID and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9445">TS</a>]
02:37:29 ◼ ► suspect that we're gonna have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9449">TS</a>]
02:37:31 ◼ ► there I bet it's gonna be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9451">TS</a>]
02:37:32 ◼ ► slower the other thing is they mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9452">TS</a>]
02:37:36 ◼ ► analysis of this event was on back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9456">TS</a>]
02:37:38 ◼ ► work this week and they they mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9458">TS</a>]
02:37:40 ◼ ► there something that I do too which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9460">TS</a>]
02:37:42 ◼ ► like Merlin was saying that as he pulls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9462">TS</a>]
02:37:46 ◼ ► he has already hit the home button with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9466">TS</a>]
02:37:49 ◼ ► his thumb and took the time the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9469">TS</a>]
02:37:51 ◼ ► out of his pocket he's looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9471">TS</a>]
02:37:53 ◼ ► it's unlocked I do the same thing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9473">TS</a>]
02:37:55 ◼ ► just kind of automatically unlock my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9475">TS</a>]
02:37:57 ◼ ► phone as I'm taking out of my pocket so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9477">TS</a>]
02:37:59 ◼ ► I never have to wait for it to unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9479">TS</a>]
02:38:01 ◼ ► especially with the new fast touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9481">TS</a>]
02:38:03 ◼ ► since the success and I wonder like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9483">TS</a>]
02:38:06 ◼ ► is face ID going to have these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9486">TS</a>]
02:38:11 ◼ ► interactions that are going to irritate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9491">TS</a>]
02:38:13 ◼ ► me every single day like I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9493">TS</a>]
02:38:15 ◼ ► I hope it's fast if it's really super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9495">TS</a>]
02:38:18 ◼ ► fast when it looks at you when it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9498">TS</a>]
02:38:20 ◼ ► finally have a view of your face maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9500">TS</a>]
02:38:24 ◼ ► but it just seems unlikely heard from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9504">TS</a>]
02:38:29 ◼ ► animations got like a padlock type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9509">TS</a>]
02:38:31 ◼ ► that basically when when when the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9511">TS</a>]
02:38:33 ◼ ► the padlock you know twists to show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9513">TS</a>]
02:38:36 ◼ ► that you successfully recognized your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9516">TS</a>]
02:38:37 ◼ ► face that is unlocked that animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9517">TS</a>]
02:38:39 ◼ ► like so many animations actually lags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9519">TS</a>]
02:38:41 ◼ ► behind it actually recognizing your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9521">TS</a>]
02:38:43 ◼ ► so I'm hoping they did the good game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9523">TS</a>]
02:38:45 ◼ ► development thing where all right so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9525">TS</a>]
02:38:48 ◼ ► does have to have line of sight on me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9528">TS</a>]
02:38:50 ◼ ► forget about the touch ID in the pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9530">TS</a>]
02:38:52 ◼ ► but you get it out and what I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9532">TS</a>]
02:38:55 ◼ ► able to do is get it out and as it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9535">TS</a>]
02:38:58 ◼ ► in front of my face I want to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9538">TS</a>]
02:38:59 ◼ ► swipe up gesture even though it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9539">TS</a>]
02:39:01 ◼ ► been unlocked yet I've I've starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9541">TS</a>]
02:39:03 ◼ ► this wipe up gesture because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9543">TS</a>]
02:39:04 ◼ ► swipe up and it doesn't unlike it brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9544">TS</a>]
02:39:06 ◼ ► you to the like please type in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9546">TS</a>]
02:39:07 ◼ ► password screen right I want to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9547">TS</a>]
02:39:13 ◼ ► recognizes me when it's in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9553">TS</a>]
02:39:15 ◼ ► the swipe up or in the middle of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9555">TS</a>]
02:39:16 ◼ ► the animation triggered by the swipe up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9556">TS</a>]
02:39:18 ◼ ► abort showing me the screen where I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9558">TS</a>]
02:39:20 ◼ ► to enter my passcode and unlock the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9560">TS</a>]
02:39:23 ◼ ► phone like if they can overlap it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9563">TS</a>]
02:39:24 ◼ ► that way it will it will help to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9564">TS</a>]
02:39:28 ◼ ► the latency right if instead you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9568">TS</a>]
02:39:31 ◼ ► look at it notice with your eyeballs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9571">TS</a>]
02:39:34 ◼ ► that the animation of the padlock going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9574">TS</a>]
02:39:36 ◼ ► and then begin your swipe no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9576">TS</a>]
02:39:39 ◼ ► fast it is that will be annoying because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9579">TS</a>]
02:39:41 ◼ ► the unlock animation has non zero time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9581">TS</a>]
02:39:43 ◼ ► you having to look for and recognize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9583">TS</a>]
02:39:45 ◼ ► as non zero time I want to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9585">TS</a>]
02:39:47 ◼ ► take out swipe recognize open and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9587">TS</a>]
02:39:51 ◼ ► probably the best they can do with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9591">TS</a>]
02:39:53 ◼ ► because you're right they didn't say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9593">TS</a>]
02:39:55 ◼ ► was faster it probably isn't faster it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9595">TS</a>]
02:39:56 ◼ ► probably amazing that it works at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9596">TS</a>]
02:39:59 ◼ ► technological feat but it is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9599">TS</a>]
02:40:00 ◼ ► first generation of this product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9600">TS</a>]
02:40:02 ◼ ► we'll have to you know try it and see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9602">TS</a>]
02:40:05 ◼ ► do I do love me some touch ID but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9605">TS</a>]
02:40:07 ◼ ► like I said before the idea of this dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9607">TS</a>]
02:40:10 ◼ ► area it's a lot of my phone where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9610">TS</a>]
02:40:12 ◼ ► there's nothing except for a circular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9612">TS</a>]
02:40:13 ◼ ► button it's not really a button anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9613">TS</a>]
02:40:15 ◼ ► does seem like the past in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9615">TS</a>]
02:40:18 ◼ ► these Apple events always tend to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9618">TS</a>]
02:40:20 ◼ ► it does seem old and steampunky and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9620">TS</a>]
02:40:24 ◼ ► I'm willing to believe that it will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9624">TS</a>]
02:40:25 ◼ ► away but we brave pioneers we'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9625">TS</a>]
02:40:28 ◼ ► out how long it's gonna take one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9628">TS</a>]
02:40:31 ◼ ► is it only allows for one phase which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9631">TS</a>]
02:40:35 ◼ ► totally understand but one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9635">TS</a>]
02:40:38 ◼ ► that I really liked about touch ID was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9638">TS</a>]
02:40:40 ◼ ► that I asked Erin if she could register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9640">TS</a>]
02:40:44 ◼ ► one of her thumbs on my phone so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9644">TS</a>]
02:40:46 ◼ ► this way if if for example I wanted her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9646">TS</a>]
02:40:49 ◼ ► to respond to a text for me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9649">TS</a>]
02:40:50 ◼ ► maybe I'm like playing with Declan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9650">TS</a>]
02:40:52 ◼ ► something like that and my phone is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9652">TS</a>]
02:40:54 ◼ ► in my pocket I could just say to her hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9654">TS</a>]
02:40:55 ◼ ► can you grab my phone and tell Marco and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9655">TS</a>]
02:40:58 ◼ ► John I'll be there in five minutes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9658">TS</a>]
02:40:59 ◼ ► whatever and I have a very very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9659">TS</a>]
02:41:02 ◼ ► passcode on my phone because I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9662">TS</a>]
02:41:06 ◼ ► exceptionally rare than I need to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9666">TS</a>]
02:41:07 ◼ ► my passcode and it's something like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9667">TS</a>]
02:41:09 ◼ ► or 15 or 20 characters and so having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9669">TS</a>]
02:41:13 ◼ ► touch ID available available to her is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9673">TS</a>]
02:41:15 ◼ ► really really nice for both of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9675">TS</a>]
02:41:17 ◼ ► because sometimes she needs to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9677">TS</a>]
02:41:19 ◼ ► something that maybe only I have like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9679">TS</a>]
02:41:21 ◼ ► email that only I have or sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9681">TS</a>]
02:41:22 ◼ ► want her to respond to a text for me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9682">TS</a>]
02:41:24 ◼ ► something like that and so she does know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9684">TS</a>]
02:41:30 ◼ ► inconvenient to type and I'd really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9690">TS</a>]
02:41:33 ◼ ► to be able to register her face on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9693">TS</a>]
02:41:36 ◼ ► phone as well which is you know a choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9696">TS</a>]
02:41:38 ◼ ► that I would make and not everyone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9698">TS</a>]
02:41:39 ◼ ► make that choice but that's something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9699">TS</a>]
02:41:40 ◼ ► would like to do and as of right now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9700">TS</a>]
02:41:43 ◼ ► is only allowable to use face ID with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9703">TS</a>]
02:41:46 ◼ ► one face again I understand why I only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9706">TS</a>]
02:41:49 ◼ ► have one face the phone is a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9709">TS</a>]
02:41:50 ◼ ► device do you like that like that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9710">TS</a>]
02:41:53 ◼ ► the explanation other than just so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9713">TS</a>]
02:41:55 ◼ ► is a personal device I'm assuming it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9715">TS</a>]
02:41:57 ◼ ► to be storage related but the reports I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9717">TS</a>]
02:41:59 ◼ ► heard from the people it's like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9719">TS</a>]
02:42:01 ◼ ► launch only one face which makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9721">TS</a>]
02:42:02 ◼ ► think there's enough storage for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9722">TS</a>]
02:42:04 ◼ ► than once obviously they have more data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9724">TS</a>]
02:42:05 ◼ ► points right and the whole evolving of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9725">TS</a>]
02:42:08 ◼ ► the thing I can't imagine it takes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9728">TS</a>]
02:42:09 ◼ ► more storage and touch ID in the secure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9729">TS</a>]
02:42:11 ◼ ► I have to keep all this stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9731">TS</a>]
02:42:12 ◼ ► mm-hmm um but I just hope hardware-wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9732">TS</a>]
02:42:15 ◼ ► there actually is good I've got fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9735">TS</a>]
02:42:18 ◼ ► on every device in the house I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9738">TS</a>]
02:42:19 ◼ ► all my kids devices it's my wife's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9739">TS</a>]
02:42:23 ◼ ► convenience it's not like they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9743">TS</a>]
02:42:24 ◼ ► keep me out of the stuff like I know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9744">TS</a>]
02:42:26 ◼ ► their passwords I can get into all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9746">TS</a>]
02:42:28 ◼ ► things it's just it's just convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9748">TS</a>]
02:42:33 ◼ ► rumblings of the same that maybe in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9753">TS</a>]
02:42:34 ◼ ► future it'll be more than one but I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9754">TS</a>]
02:42:36 ◼ ► little bummed right now that it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9756">TS</a>]
02:42:37 ◼ ► one again as with earlier you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9757">TS</a>]
02:42:41 ◼ ► really a big deal this is still a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9761">TS</a>]
02:42:43 ◼ ► that is unlocking by looking at my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9763">TS</a>]
02:42:45 ◼ ► even in the dark like things can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9765">TS</a>]
02:42:47 ◼ ► lot worse but it did bummed me out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9767">TS</a>]
02:42:49 ◼ ► little bit what else about this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9769">TS</a>]
02:42:52 ◼ ► else is new other than 4k sixteenth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9772">TS</a>]
02:42:54 ◼ ► marker wanted he got it oh yeah I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9774">TS</a>]
02:42:56 ◼ ► and all the all of them and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9776">TS</a>]
02:42:59 ◼ ► didn't quite do a perfect job but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9779">TS</a>]
02:43:03 ◼ ► improving the telephoto camera in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9783">TS</a>]
02:43:06 ◼ ► two camera module but only for the ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9786">TS</a>]
02:43:10 ◼ ► not for the eight plus where now the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9790">TS</a>]
02:43:13 ◼ ► know before I basically I said look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9793">TS</a>]
02:43:15 ◼ ► said what I wanted was that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9795">TS</a>]
02:43:17 ◼ ► with the seven adding the dual camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9797">TS</a>]
02:43:21 ◼ ► telephoto camera was a narrower aperture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9801">TS</a>]
02:43:24 ◼ ► so it led in less light and was noisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9804">TS</a>]
02:43:28 ◼ ► stabilized which basically made it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9808">TS</a>]
02:43:30 ◼ ► hard to ever use that in low-light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9810">TS</a>]
02:43:31 ◼ ► get a good picture and the software were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9811">TS</a>]
02:43:33 ◼ ► smart enough to basically not use it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9813">TS</a>]
02:43:35 ◼ ► low-light and to just zoom in on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9815">TS</a>]
02:43:37 ◼ ► the wide sensor that was better now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9817">TS</a>]
02:43:40 ◼ ► new ones the aperture difference is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9820">TS</a>]
02:43:43 ◼ ► smaller it's still there but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9823">TS</a>]
02:43:44 ◼ ► smaller and they're both stabilized on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9824">TS</a>]
02:43:47 ◼ ► the 10 so that's really nice I do wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9827">TS</a>]
02:43:50 ◼ ► the eight plus got the same module I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9830">TS</a>]
02:43:53 ◼ ► don't think there's much reason for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9833">TS</a>]
02:43:55 ◼ ► not to have gotten it other than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9835">TS</a>]
02:43:57 ◼ ► price and segmentation because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9837">TS</a>]
02:44:01 ◼ ► so I you know like it makes sense why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9841">TS</a>]
02:44:03 ◼ ► the eight didn't get it they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9843">TS</a>]
02:44:04 ◼ ► not room for it in the enclosure but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9844">TS</a>]
02:44:06 ◼ ► know I do wish they would have brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9846">TS</a>]
02:44:08 ◼ ► us of the Plus as well but the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9848">TS</a>]
02:44:11 ◼ ► they're on the 10 that's great and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9851">TS</a>]
02:44:13 ◼ ► that these now do all shoot 4k 60 that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9853">TS</a>]
02:44:17 ◼ ► amazing because again as I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9857">TS</a>]
02:44:20 ◼ ► last week almost no professional video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9860">TS</a>]
02:44:22 ◼ ► cameras shoot 4k 60 yet that's very rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9862">TS</a>]
02:44:25 ◼ ► and so to have that in anything let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9865">TS</a>]
02:44:30 ◼ ► $700 and up phone is really impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9870">TS</a>]
02:44:34 ◼ ► and on top of that the iPhone is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9874">TS</a>]
02:44:36 ◼ ► such an amazing video camera that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9876">TS</a>]
02:44:39 ◼ ► pretty big deal so I would say for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9879">TS</a>]
02:44:42 ◼ ► people for most purposes the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9882">TS</a>]
02:44:44 ◼ ► remains the best video camera and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9884">TS</a>]
02:44:46 ◼ ► world and this is a giant step forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9886">TS</a>]
02:44:49 ◼ ► even for it so I'm very impressed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9889">TS</a>]
02:44:51 ◼ ► the cameras so on paper and I hope in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9891">TS</a>]
02:44:54 ◼ ► practice I hope it proves to be as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9894">TS</a>]
02:44:55 ◼ ► as it sounds 240 frames per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9895">TS</a>]
02:44:58 ◼ ► slo-mo I thought that was what the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9898">TS</a>]
02:45:00 ◼ ► one did but I guess I'm mistaken is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9900">TS</a>]
02:45:02 ◼ ► I think that did it but only for 720p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9902">TS</a>]
02:45:05 ◼ ► now does not and so they've up they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9905">TS</a>]
02:45:07 ◼ ► upped it to 1080p yeah yeah alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9907">TS</a>]
02:45:09 ◼ ► that's good but now we get to finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9909">TS</a>]
02:45:12 ◼ ► the real reason why people will buy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9912">TS</a>]
02:45:15 ◼ ► be happy with this phone if this is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9915">TS</a>]
02:45:17 ◼ ► 2 hours more battery life it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9917">TS</a>]
02:45:20 ◼ ► we've always wanted don't make the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9920">TS</a>]
02:45:21 ◼ ► thinner add more battery light at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9921">TS</a>]
02:45:23 ◼ ► phone gonna big giant screen on it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9923">TS</a>]
02:45:26 ◼ ► extremely fast powerful processor all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9926">TS</a>]
02:45:30 ◼ ► sorts of you know cameras and wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9930">TS</a>]
02:45:33 ◼ ► doodads and sensors and blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9933">TS</a>]
02:45:34 ◼ ► and they added 2 hours of battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9934">TS</a>]
02:45:36 ◼ ► which is a lot that reason you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9936">TS</a>]
02:45:42 ◼ ► have to see how it measures up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9942">TS</a>]
02:45:43 ◼ ► plus but the 7 was already pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9943">TS</a>]
02:45:46 ◼ ► that is going to feel like a premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9946">TS</a>]
02:45:48 ◼ ► experience when people buy this fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9948">TS</a>]
02:45:50 ◼ ► phone for all the money that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9950">TS</a>]
02:45:51 ◼ ► cost and they get a sideshow screen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9951">TS</a>]
02:45:53 ◼ ► a little bit weird and blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9953">TS</a>]
02:45:54 ◼ ► but hey it's gonna be a new phone new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9954">TS</a>]
02:45:56 ◼ ► phones always last longer than your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9956">TS</a>]
02:45:57 ◼ ► one because your old battery is shot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9957">TS</a>]
02:45:59 ◼ ► B the fact that this actually has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9959">TS</a>]
02:46:01 ◼ ► battery life if that comes out the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9961">TS</a>]
02:46:06 ◼ ► high-end feature that you can give to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9966">TS</a>]
02:46:08 ◼ ► iPhone users in particular heard used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9968">TS</a>]
02:46:11 ◼ ► kind of being starved for battery so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9971">TS</a>]
02:46:13 ◼ ► was very happy about that because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9973">TS</a>]
02:46:15 ◼ ► know that was one of the few questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9975">TS</a>]
02:46:17 ◼ ► we had because we might have known the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9977">TS</a>]
02:46:18 ◼ ► exact milliamp hour size of the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9978">TS</a>]
02:46:21 ◼ ► from leaks I don't know if we do that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9981">TS</a>]
02:46:22 ◼ ► not but even if we did you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9982">TS</a>]
02:46:25 ◼ ► though what is the overall battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9985">TS</a>]
02:46:28 ◼ ► of this very complicated system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9988">TS</a>]
02:46:30 ◼ ► involves tons of the components gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9990">TS</a>]
02:46:31 ◼ ► especially since software is such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9991">TS</a>]
02:46:33 ◼ ► factor and bouncing the components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9993">TS</a>]
02:46:34 ◼ ► that's one of the things that can almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9994">TS</a>]
02:46:36 ◼ ► never be spoiled for us and less with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9996">TS</a>]
02:46:38 ◼ ► I guess is what will happen next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9998">TS</a>]
02:46:39 ◼ ► we'll get the keynote slides which that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/9999">TS</a>]
02:46:42 ◼ ► video of the rehearsals yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10002">TS</a>]
02:46:44 ◼ ► that's a hell of a thing that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10004">TS</a>]
02:46:49 ◼ ► extremely excited to see that but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10009">TS</a>]
02:46:51 ◼ ► just like oh and it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10011">TS</a>]
02:46:52 ◼ ► better two more hours they put that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10012">TS</a>]
02:46:54 ◼ ► on a slide that is amazing yeah I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10014">TS</a>]
02:46:57 ◼ ► that translates into real world games we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10017">TS</a>]
02:46:59 ◼ ► will see you know over time it is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10019">TS</a>]
02:47:01 ◼ ► pointing out that the eight plus still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10021">TS</a>]
02:47:05 ◼ ► claims higher battery life so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10025">TS</a>]
02:47:08 ◼ ► if battery life is the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10028">TS</a>]
02:47:10 ◼ ► thing to you the plus phone is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10030">TS</a>]
02:47:12 ◼ ► still the right move also again I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10032">TS</a>]
02:47:15 ◼ ► screen size is the most important to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10035">TS</a>]
02:47:16 ◼ ► plus phone still the right move but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10036">TS</a>]
02:47:18 ◼ ► see I don't know this this is why like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10038">TS</a>]
02:47:21 ◼ ► once again in the Apple product line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10041">TS</a>]
02:47:23 ◼ ► they have they have made it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10043">TS</a>]
02:47:25 ◼ ► there is no one best choice like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10045">TS</a>]
02:47:27 ◼ ► this was the case for a while on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10047">TS</a>]
02:47:29 ◼ ► iPads like it's definitely the case in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10049">TS</a>]
02:47:31 ◼ ► the MacBook Pro is like there is no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10051">TS</a>]
02:47:33 ◼ ► best model here it just depends on which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10053">TS</a>]
02:47:36 ◼ ► things you prioritize over which other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10056">TS</a>]
02:47:38 ◼ ► fans of the plus should strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10058">TS</a>]
02:47:41 ◼ ► consider getting the next plus instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10061">TS</a>]
02:47:44 ◼ ► of getting the ten but the reality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10064">TS</a>]
02:47:46 ◼ ► you know all of us who talk on podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10066">TS</a>]
02:47:49 ◼ ► about these phones and everything we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10069">TS</a>]
02:47:50 ◼ ► all going to get the 10 anyway yeah I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10070">TS</a>]
02:47:53 ◼ ► want to mention that the I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10073">TS</a>]
02:47:56 ◼ ► eight does as well but doesn't the 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10076">TS</a>]
02:47:58 ◼ ► get true tone yes the at least the 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10078">TS</a>]
02:48:03 ◼ ► does I don't know if the other ones yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10083">TS</a>]
02:48:04 ◼ ► I think I think they all get it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10084">TS</a>]
02:48:05 ◼ ► surprising to me because that means they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10085">TS</a>]
02:48:07 ◼ ► found a place to smuggle that sensor on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10087">TS</a>]
02:48:09 ◼ ► the eights I mean it's nice I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10089">TS</a>]
02:48:11 ◼ ► although this is my big surprise of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10091">TS</a>]
02:48:14 ◼ ► thing actually was no promotion which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10094">TS</a>]
02:48:16 ◼ ► makes very little sense to me yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10096">TS</a>]
02:48:19 ◼ ► was some kind of battery life thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10099">TS</a>]
02:48:20 ◼ ► because it's not like they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10100">TS</a>]
02:48:23 ◼ ► the the CPU grunt to do it and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10103">TS</a>]
02:48:26 ◼ ► not moving that many pixels and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10106">TS</a>]
02:48:28 ◼ ► plenty of room on the phone because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10108">TS</a>]
02:48:29 ◼ ► a little bit bigger I mean it must come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10109">TS</a>]
02:48:32 ◼ ► down to either component size or costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10112">TS</a>]
02:48:34 ◼ ► or battery life because it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10114">TS</a>]
02:48:36 ◼ ► not a technical limitation so they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10116">TS</a>]
02:48:37 ◼ ► room for true tones for everybody but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10117">TS</a>]
02:48:40 ◼ ► promotion I wonder if maybe the OLED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10120">TS</a>]
02:48:42 ◼ ► panel can't refresh that fast yet at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10122">TS</a>]
02:48:44 ◼ ► least it may be like people said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10124">TS</a>]
02:48:46 ◼ ► but I don't don't see how that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10126">TS</a>]
02:48:49 ◼ ► you know refresh should 120 easy like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10129">TS</a>]
02:48:51 ◼ ► think your TV doesn't without already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10131">TS</a>]
02:48:53 ◼ ► like maybe they're different when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10133">TS</a>]
02:48:55 ◼ ► when it's smaller I don't know or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10135">TS</a>]
02:48:57 ◼ ► like you know their their particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10137">TS</a>]
02:48:58 ◼ ► quality level of OLED panels getting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10138">TS</a>]
02:49:00 ◼ ► know getting their color and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10140">TS</a>]
02:49:01 ◼ ► contrast and their again like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10141">TS</a>]
02:49:04 ◼ ► those can't do 120 and and they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10144">TS</a>]
02:49:06 ◼ ► have the eight panels do it if the tens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10146">TS</a>]
02:49:09 ◼ ► panel couldn't do it it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10149">TS</a>]
02:49:11 ◼ ► could be a reason I don't know I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10151">TS</a>]
02:49:14 ◼ ► think it Bruce comes down to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10154">TS</a>]
02:49:17 ◼ ► hardware to drive the panel at that rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10157">TS</a>]
02:49:19 ◼ ► and finding room for it and potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10159">TS</a>]
02:49:22 ◼ ► what the power does but I would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10162">TS</a>]
02:49:23 ◼ ► hear from somebody who knows more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10163">TS</a>]
02:49:25 ◼ ► the you know the internal details of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10165">TS</a>]
02:49:29 ◼ ► you drive any screen ad 120 Hertz and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10169">TS</a>]
02:49:32 ◼ ► how that might affect or if someone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10172">TS</a>]
02:49:34 ◼ ► the iPhone team just wants to write in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10174">TS</a>]
02:49:35 ◼ ► and tell us why the hell you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10175">TS</a>]
02:49:36 ◼ ► promotion and especially since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10176">TS</a>]
02:49:39 ◼ ► animations on the 10 in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10179">TS</a>]
02:49:42 ◼ ► they're they're kind of more prominent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10182">TS</a>]
02:49:46 ◼ ► like when you when you go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10186">TS</a>]
02:49:47 ◼ ► home thing of like the the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10187">TS</a>]
02:49:49 ◼ ► that you just chucked up words and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10189">TS</a>]
02:49:51 ◼ ► floats back into the icon then it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10191">TS</a>]
02:49:52 ◼ ► from and all sorts of scaling things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10192">TS</a>]
02:49:54 ◼ ► all those animations would look better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10194">TS</a>]
02:49:55 ◼ ► at 120 because they're short animations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10195">TS</a>]
02:49:57 ◼ ► is not that many frames and so they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10197">TS</a>]
02:50:00 ◼ ► end up looking stuttery even if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10200">TS</a>]
02:50:03 ◼ ► not actually dropping any frames because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10203">TS</a>]
02:50:05 ◼ ► they're so fast so 120 would definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10205">TS</a>]
02:50:06 ◼ ► help there and give them more sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10206">TS</a>]
02:50:08 ◼ ► fluid experience but maybe next year I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10208">TS</a>]
02:50:11 ◼ ► stoked for for two-tone though because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10211">TS</a>]
02:50:14 ◼ ► don't have any devices with two-tone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10214">TS</a>]
02:50:16 ◼ ► from what little I've seen it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10216">TS</a>]
02:50:18 ◼ ► really really nice not to say promotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10218">TS</a>]
02:50:20 ◼ ► isn't by any stretch but I have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10220">TS</a>]
02:50:23 ◼ ► promotion briefly and I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10223">TS</a>]
02:50:26 ◼ ► nice and I'm sure if I had time with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10226">TS</a>]
02:50:27 ◼ ► I would start to say oh no this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10227">TS</a>]
02:50:29 ◼ ► amazing but I'm really stoked to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10229">TS</a>]
02:50:32 ◼ ► true tone and I think I heard it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10232">TS</a>]
02:50:34 ◼ ► upgrade and Jason had mentioned that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10234">TS</a>]
02:50:36 ◼ ► lot of times he's getting the brightness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10236">TS</a>]
02:50:39 ◼ ► not to the position he wants it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10239">TS</a>]
02:50:41 ◼ ► because he's fighting kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10241">TS</a>]
02:50:42 ◼ ► ambient light situation in the room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10242">TS</a>]
02:50:44 ◼ ► I feel like I suffer from the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10244">TS</a>]
02:50:45 ◼ ► problem from time to time for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10245">TS</a>]
02:50:48 ◼ ► least definition of suffering but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10248">TS</a>]
02:50:49 ◼ ► think hey I feel like the having true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10249">TS</a>]
02:50:52 ◼ ► tone is gonna be really nice and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10252">TS</a>]
02:50:54 ◼ ► gonna be new for me so I'm excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10254">TS</a>]
02:50:56 ◼ ► that look very good after tone the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10256">TS</a>]
02:50:58 ◼ ► thing I can say about true tone is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10258">TS</a>]
02:51:00 ◼ ► enable it and I don't notice that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10260">TS</a>]
02:51:02 ◼ ► on because that's how it should work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10262">TS</a>]
02:51:03 ◼ ► you shouldn't notice that it's making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10263">TS</a>]
02:51:05 ◼ ► your screen more Brown and crap like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10265">TS</a>]
02:51:06 ◼ ► this horrible flux and night shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10266">TS</a>]
02:51:08 ◼ ► things that I hate I leave it on and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10268">TS</a>]
02:51:12 ◼ ► don't even notice that it's there and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10272">TS</a>]
02:51:14 ◼ ► I turn it off like you have sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10274">TS</a>]
02:51:16 ◼ ► go back and say what would this look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10276">TS</a>]
02:51:17 ◼ ► like without your tone you see it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10277">TS</a>]
02:51:19 ◼ ► like more blue when you're sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10279">TS</a>]
02:51:20 ◼ ► your house at night so true tone gets a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10280">TS</a>]
02:51:22 ◼ ► big thumbs-up from me as a quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10282">TS</a>]
02:51:24 ◼ ► life thing for a screen where you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10284">TS</a>]
02:51:26 ◼ ► doing like color work for like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10286">TS</a>]
02:51:29 ◼ ► where you need accurate reproduction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10289">TS</a>]
02:51:31 ◼ ► colors where you just want it to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10291">TS</a>]
02:51:32 ◼ ► look look the way it's supposed to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10292">TS</a>]
02:51:35 ◼ ► of look given the ambient lighting so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10295">TS</a>]
02:51:41 ◼ ► the stuff that we had talked about up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10301">TS</a>]
02:51:43 ◼ ► and told the iPhone 10 pre-ordering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10303">TS</a>]
02:51:46 ◼ ► Friday as I think I'd mentioned earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10306">TS</a>]
02:51:48 ◼ ► and then available a week from Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10308">TS</a>]
02:51:51 ◼ ► this one though it's go the iPhone 10 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10311">TS</a>]
02:51:54 ◼ ► not going to be pre orderable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10314">TS</a>]
02:51:56 ◼ ► basically a month and a half until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10316">TS</a>]
02:51:59 ◼ ► 27th of October which is again Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10319">TS</a>]
02:52:01 ◼ ► and available the following Friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10321">TS</a>]
02:52:03 ◼ ► November 3rd that's I mean in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10323">TS</a>]
02:52:06 ◼ ► scheme of things not a not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10326">TS</a>]
02:52:08 ◼ ► I want I want to give Apple and unjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10328">TS</a>]
02:52:10 ◼ ► unreasonable amounts of my money sooner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10330">TS</a>]
02:52:12 ◼ ► than that please I think it's also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10332">TS</a>]
02:52:15 ◼ ► know like many Apple launches of late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10335">TS</a>]
02:52:18 ◼ ► the official day one launch if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10338">TS</a>]
02:52:21 ◼ ► very lucky you might hit that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10341">TS</a>]
02:52:23 ◼ ► think most people are not getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10343">TS</a>]
02:52:25 ◼ ► phone probably before January yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10345">TS</a>]
02:52:28 ◼ ► gonna be really bummed yeah that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10348">TS</a>]
02:52:30 ◼ ► I mean like we always know this is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10350">TS</a>]
02:52:31 ◼ ► be and you know there wasn't gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10351">TS</a>]
02:52:33 ◼ ► much supply and delay like it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10353">TS</a>]
02:52:36 ◼ ► we'll survive it's better than waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10356">TS</a>]
02:52:38 ◼ ► around for the color you want I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10358">TS</a>]
02:52:42 ◼ ► people getting in line but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10362">TS</a>]
02:52:44 ◼ ► that's I bet Apple would have liked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10364">TS</a>]
02:52:46 ◼ ► have more squarely hit the holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10366">TS</a>]
02:52:48 ◼ ► season but they're just you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10368">TS</a>]
02:52:50 ◼ ► there's gonna be January for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10370">TS</a>]
02:52:52 ◼ ► sorry your mom went under the tree just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10372">TS</a>]
02:52:54 ◼ ► print out a picture of it little box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10374">TS</a>]
02:52:57 ◼ ► then just sort of great cradle it so any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10377">TS</a>]
02:53:01 ◼ ► other thoughts but I have one final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10381">TS</a>]
02:53:02 ◼ ► closing thought but any other thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10382">TS</a>]
02:53:04 ◼ ► before then I didn't see any battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10384">TS</a>]
02:53:07 ◼ ► packs for the 1000 hunchbacks yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10387">TS</a>]
02:53:11 ◼ ► appears that there aren't new battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10391">TS</a>]
02:53:14 ◼ ► the they're saying that cases for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10394">TS</a>]
02:53:18 ◼ ► and similar for the pluses so I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10398">TS</a>]
02:53:22 ◼ ► that probably means that the seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10402">TS</a>]
02:53:26 ◼ ► there is no 7 + battery case so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10406">TS</a>]
02:53:28 ◼ ► rules that out and yeah it does appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10408">TS</a>]
02:53:30 ◼ ► that there's not going to be at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10410">TS</a>]
02:53:31 ◼ ► there isn't yet a 10 battery case yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10411">TS</a>]
02:53:35 ◼ ► though they do have a folio case Anthony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10415">TS</a>]
02:53:37 ◼ ► if you have the they do have the leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10417">TS</a>]
02:53:39 ◼ ► the folio case I saw someone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10419">TS</a>]
02:53:41 ◼ ► frustration I had the same thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10421">TS</a>]
02:53:43 ◼ ► only show it from the back there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10423">TS</a>]
02:53:44 ◼ ► pictures on the Apple store and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10424">TS</a>]
02:53:45 ◼ ► both and they're both from the back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10425">TS</a>]
02:53:47 ◼ ► think that's just a mistake in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10427">TS</a>]
02:53:48 ◼ ► but I would that I'm not that Oliver by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10428">TS</a>]
02:53:50 ◼ ► when I was but I want to see what I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10430">TS</a>]
02:53:51 ◼ ► like but the the I was excited to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10431">TS</a>]
02:53:53 ◼ ► the leather case for the iPhone 10 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10433">TS</a>]
02:53:56 ◼ ► essentially the same as the other case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10436">TS</a>]
02:53:57 ◼ ► that I have now it comes in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10437">TS</a>]
02:53:58 ◼ ► interesting colors and I'm a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10438">TS</a>]
02:54:00 ◼ ► that case so hopefully the new one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10440">TS</a>]
02:54:01 ◼ ► just as good and because the leather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10441">TS</a>]
02:54:03 ◼ ► case apples other case the existing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10443">TS</a>]
02:54:04 ◼ ► and the new one are totally open at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10444">TS</a>]
02:54:06 ◼ ► bottom the one edge where are you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10446">TS</a>]
02:54:08 ◼ ► be swiping constantly you won't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10448">TS</a>]
02:54:09 ◼ ► be swiping against the edge of the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10449">TS</a>]
02:54:11 ◼ ► oh and fast charging on both all the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10451">TS</a>]
02:54:14 ◼ ► phones the whole like whatever I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10454">TS</a>]
02:54:15 ◼ ► know what standard is for the USB fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10455">TS</a>]
02:54:17 ◼ ► charging there you can get a 50% charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10457">TS</a>]
02:54:19 ◼ ► in 30 minutes yeah that was just setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10459">TS</a>]
02:54:20 ◼ ► setting aside the wireless thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10460">TS</a>]
02:54:22 ◼ ► I think it's just like a USB fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10462">TS</a>]
02:54:23 ◼ ► charging standard yeah it's it's USB C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10463">TS</a>]
02:54:26 ◼ ► power delivery and so so basically if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10466">TS</a>]
02:54:28 ◼ ► you have like one of the macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10468">TS</a>]
02:54:30 ◼ ► adapters like or or if you have the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10470">TS</a>]
02:54:32 ◼ ► fast charge adapter but none of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10472">TS</a>]
02:54:35 ◼ ► come stock in the box of any iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10475">TS</a>]
02:54:37 ◼ ► but if you happen to have the USB see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10477">TS</a>]
02:54:41 ◼ ► the lightning cable which also doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10481">TS</a>]
02:54:42 ◼ ► come stock in the box and one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10482">TS</a>]
02:54:44 ◼ ► fast charging power bricks that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10484">TS</a>]
02:54:46 ◼ ► doesn't come stuck in the box and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10486">TS</a>]
02:54:47 ◼ ► many of which aren't even made for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10487">TS</a>]
02:54:49 ◼ ► products then it will charge faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10489">TS</a>]
02:54:50 ◼ ► which is a nice thing to have if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10490">TS</a>]
02:54:52 ◼ ► need it i do question why they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10492">TS</a>]
02:54:55 ◼ ► just boost up the power bricks that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10495">TS</a>]
02:54:56 ◼ ► with it but you know Apple what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10496">TS</a>]
02:54:59 ◼ ► gonna do wouldn't fit in the box is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10499">TS</a>]
02:55:02 ◼ ► one they give you is the little tiny non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10502">TS</a>]
02:55:04 ◼ ► you know honestly think nah that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10504">TS</a>]
02:55:08 ◼ ► dress too much but I honestly think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10508">TS</a>]
02:55:10 ◼ ► one of the reasons why the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10510">TS</a>]
02:55:12 ◼ ► remote is so bad and unchanged is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10512">TS</a>]
02:55:14 ◼ ► because they didn't want to make the Box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10514">TS</a>]
02:55:16 ◼ ► bigger I bet that's a big reason for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10516">TS</a>]
02:55:19 ◼ ► yeah it's not it's not just the box they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10519">TS</a>]
02:55:21 ◼ ► don't want to make the remote picker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10521">TS</a>]
02:55:22 ◼ ► that's what it comes down to it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10522">TS</a>]
02:55:23 ◼ ► feel like it should be it should be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10523">TS</a>]
02:55:25 ◼ ► scale and it should be elegant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10525">TS</a>]
02:55:27 ◼ ► and they don't understand that people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10527">TS</a>]
02:55:29 ◼ ► hands are not that big yeah they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10529">TS</a>]
02:55:31 ◼ ► that small rather a real-time follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10531">TS</a>]
02:55:33 ◼ ► someone in the chat room did helpfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10533">TS</a>]
02:55:34 ◼ ► provide a view of the front of the folio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10534">TS</a>]
02:55:36 ◼ ► case I will never buy one of these but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10536">TS</a>]
02:55:38 ◼ ► some people like them and so now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10538">TS</a>]
02:55:39 ◼ ► one format bowl because why wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10539">TS</a>]
02:55:40 ◼ ► they charge you 70 bucks or whatever her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10540">TS</a>]
02:55:42 ◼ ► I think to put on your phone somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10542">TS</a>]
02:55:46 ◼ ► and and there's a whole bunch of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10546">TS</a>]
02:55:47 ◼ ► small stuff from the event that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10547">TS</a>]
02:55:49 ◼ ► have time for I mean we didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10549">TS</a>]
02:55:51 ◼ ► about an emoji we didn't talk about air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10551">TS</a>]
02:55:53 ◼ ► power or the maths or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10553">TS</a>]
02:55:55 ◼ ► so yeah I guess that'll be part of next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10555">TS</a>]
02:55:57 ◼ ► week's show it that'll be like our drunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10557">TS</a>]
02:55:59 ◼ ► dwarf all it's two weeks with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10559">TS</a>]
02:56:00 ◼ ► follow-up plus like an emoji and air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10560">TS</a>]
02:56:03 ◼ ► power mats and things like that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10563">TS</a>]
02:56:08 ◼ ► want to talk about an emoji other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10568">TS</a>]
02:56:09 ◼ ► to say I have received a few and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10569">TS</a>]
02:56:14 ◼ ► are pretty awesome and I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10574">TS</a>]
02:56:17 ◼ ► something that I'm gonna be using a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10577">TS</a>]
02:56:19 ◼ ► or doing a lot but they are pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10579">TS</a>]
02:56:21 ◼ ► it is it is very amusing and and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10581">TS</a>]
02:56:24 ◼ ► talk more about it next week so closing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10584">TS</a>]
02:56:26 ◼ ► thought Marco what phone or phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10586">TS</a>]
02:56:28 ◼ ► you going to be buying and when will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10588">TS</a>]
02:56:30 ◼ ► be doing that I mean because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10590">TS</a>]
02:56:34 ◼ ► because I'm a developer and an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10594">TS</a>]
02:56:35 ◼ ► commentator I have to get the ten no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10595">TS</a>]
02:56:38 ◼ ► question and that's probably gonna end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10598">TS</a>]
02:56:40 ◼ ► up being the phone for me overall I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10600">TS</a>]
02:56:42 ◼ ► disappointed that the screen isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10602">TS</a>]
02:56:43 ◼ ► bigger wider like that like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10603">TS</a>]
02:56:46 ◼ ► for the size increase I and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10606">TS</a>]
02:56:49 ◼ ► trade-offs I would have liked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10609">TS</a>]
02:56:50 ◼ ► bit more width than what I already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10610">TS</a>]
02:56:52 ◼ ► so that's unfortunate but it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10612">TS</a>]
02:56:55 ◼ ► gonna be great I'm probably gonna love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10615">TS</a>]
02:56:57 ◼ ► it I'm definitely going to love having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10617">TS</a>]
02:56:59 ◼ ► that camera system so I really want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10619">TS</a>]
02:57:02 ◼ ► for that if nothing else oh I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10622">TS</a>]
02:57:04 ◼ ► need to do a lot of work on overcast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10624">TS</a>]
02:57:06 ◼ ► make it fit noxious it's basically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10626">TS</a>]
02:57:09 ◼ ► ruins my entire UI is how this works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10629">TS</a>]
02:57:11 ◼ ► like the sleeve just ruins everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10631">TS</a>]
02:57:13 ◼ ► I'm I'm getting the phone for that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10633">TS</a>]
02:57:17 ◼ ► were not a commentator and developer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10637">TS</a>]
02:57:19 ◼ ► honestly might consider the eight plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10639">TS</a>]
02:57:21 ◼ ► instead but oh well maybe you ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10641">TS</a>]
02:57:25 ◼ ► getting both and putting the eight plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10645">TS</a>]
02:57:26 ◼ ► as a dedicated waste machine in my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10646">TS</a>]
02:57:28 ◼ ► because Waze is amazing anyways so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10648">TS</a>]
02:57:32 ◼ ► definitely in the 4k Apple TV and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10652">TS</a>]
02:57:36 ◼ ► constantly and I do have a 4k TV and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10656">TS</a>]
02:57:41 ◼ ► or sorry the LTE watch series three so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10661">TS</a>]
02:57:46 ◼ ► expensive event yeah tell me about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10666">TS</a>]
02:57:48 ◼ ► mean I'm in for two watches like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10668">TS</a>]
02:57:51 ◼ ► earlier one LTE one not I'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10671">TS</a>]
02:57:54 ◼ ► getting definitely one I phone 10 in 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10674">TS</a>]
02:57:59 ◼ ► Space Gray probably one for Aaron - we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10679">TS</a>]
02:58:04 ◼ ► haven't really had time to talk it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10684">TS</a>]
02:58:05 ◼ ► yet but I suspect I will I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10685">TS</a>]
02:58:08 ◼ ► what color color she'll want and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10688">TS</a>]
02:58:10 ◼ ► almost certainly just insist that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10690">TS</a>]
02:58:12 ◼ ► gets a 256 there so between two watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10692">TS</a>]
02:58:15 ◼ ► and two phones no Apple TVs for me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10695">TS</a>]
02:58:17 ◼ ► yet anyway I'm looking at something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10697">TS</a>]
02:58:19 ◼ ► $3,000 truly an utterly preposterous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10699">TS</a>]
02:58:23 ◼ ► if you've ever listened to any one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10703">TS</a>]
02:58:26 ◼ ► our ads ever thank you thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10706">TS</a>]
02:58:29 ◼ ► if it wasn't for that I would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10709">TS</a>]
02:58:31 ◼ ► getting probably any of these Jon what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10711">TS</a>]
02:58:34 ◼ ► your situation you said Tina's getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10714">TS</a>]
02:58:36 ◼ ► watch and she's probably getting a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10716">TS</a>]
02:58:39 ◼ ► as well and you're getting just the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10719">TS</a>]
02:58:41 ◼ ► yeah well TVs for the whole family not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10721">TS</a>]
02:58:44 ◼ ► I am I gonna live vicariously through my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10724">TS</a>]
02:58:46 ◼ ► wife who I'm trying to evince to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10726">TS</a>]
02:58:47 ◼ ► 10 so I'll have one to play with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10727">TS</a>]
02:58:49 ◼ ► it's not it's not my phone you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10729">TS</a>]
02:58:50 ◼ ► keep using my 7 I like it Oh add the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10730">TS</a>]
02:58:52 ◼ ► rest the world experiment I hope she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10732">TS</a>]
02:58:53 ◼ ► gets a 10 because then I will be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10733">TS</a>]
02:58:54 ◼ ► play with it and see what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10734">TS</a>]
02:58:56 ◼ ► without having to actually use it as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10736">TS</a>]
02:58:57 ◼ ► phone which I'm not sure I'm ready Cora [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10737">TS</a>]
02:58:59 ◼ ► if it was my year I would get a 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10739">TS</a>]
02:59:00 ◼ ► though if it was my phone year I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10740">TS</a>]
02:59:02 ◼ ► totally get that because I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10742">TS</a>]
02:59:04 ◼ ► convinced that that is the the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10744">TS</a>]
02:59:06 ◼ ► I would want to try it's the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10746">TS</a>]
02:59:09 ◼ ► I got it Marco didn't no no I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10749">TS</a>]
02:59:14 ◼ ► Oh how'd you get that reference it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10754">TS</a>]
02:59:19 ◼ ► music I know music I have heard music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10759">TS</a>]
02:59:21 ◼ ► you can't go you can't live in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10761">TS</a>]
02:59:24 ◼ ► and not have heard that song you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10764">TS</a>]
02:59:33 ◼ ► thanks to our three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10773">TS</a>]
02:59:35 ◼ ► Squarespace Backblaze and aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10775">TS</a>]
02:59:41 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10781">TS</a>]
02:59:45 ◼ ► mean to begin cuz it was accidental oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10785">TS</a>]
02:59:49 ◼ ► it was accidental John did Tony research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10789">TS</a>]
02:59:54 ◼ ► Marco and Casey wouldn't let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10794">TS</a>]
03:00:00 ◼ ► Lily was accidental and you can find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10800">TS</a>]
03:00:04 ◼ ► show notes at ADP CAS II WA L is s so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10804">TS</a>]
03:00:17 ◼ ► that's Casey less ma RC o AR m auntie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10817">TS</a>]
03:00:22 ◼ ► Marco Arment si R me see Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10822">TS</a>]
03:00:41 ◼ ► my god this is a long show yeah well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10841">TS</a>]
03:00:44 ◼ ► don't know from really need much been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10844">TS</a>]
03:00:45 ◼ ► after show I was supposed to even bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10845">TS</a>]
03:00:46 ◼ ► up aftershocks when you were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10846">TS</a>]
03:00:48 ◼ ► about riding your bike because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10848">TS</a>]
03:00:50 ◼ ► the ultimate time for aftershocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10850">TS</a>]
03:00:52 ◼ ► because their open air I know well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10852">TS</a>]
03:00:54 ◼ ► only problem is that when I'm riding my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10854">TS</a>]
03:00:56 ◼ ► bike I am terrified so I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10856">TS</a>]
03:01:00 ◼ ► die so I've been mostly using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/10860">TS</a>]
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03:06:23 ◼ ► a few bikes in the store and I tried all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/11183">TS</a>]
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03:06:27 ◼ ► ones and she picked her favourite blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/11187">TS</a>]
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03:06:38 ◼ ► they're not the best bikes in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSZq97k/11198">TS</a>]
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