00:00:00 ◼ ► did you try that translation menu bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► because I guess you have to don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► the like kill system UI server to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► it take effect something like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► please don't do that while podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/8">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► conclusion and I think I first heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► this from Dan Benjamin and I think Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► for me he was right about this that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► is it is a happier experience for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► whoever you is if you customized or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► you insist on as few customizations to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/26">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► included has plenty of customizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► that that that you consider critical to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► me on a new installation of Mac OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► and same with iOS but I try to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/40">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► wisely and I try to choose things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► usually just amount to installing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► an app or something like that and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/51">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► is no I mean it's a defaults right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/53">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► I understand what it is it's not hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► do it's something I am perfectly capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► of doing but the fact that I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► translucent until you said something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► means you know what it's probably just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► not worth it to worry about it and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► okay with that I disagree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/69">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► philosophy I understand it like maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► you're Hotelling in a world where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/72">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► you have to use other people's generic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► computers all the time that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/75">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► want to customize but I'm I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► opposite camp I'm not gonna live with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/79">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► some minor annoyance for years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► just because it's like oh if I happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/82">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► find myself a stranger's computer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► the default setup I'll be able to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► if I get a new computer I'll just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► able to use that that's not true B's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/88">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► migration system has been great for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► many years some people always asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/91">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► do you do a clean install or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► upgrade install I upgrade install I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► been upgrading installed for ever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► historically both on classic Mac OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/100">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► on OS 10 and Mac OS or the hell it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► called now have been really good about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► keeping all your crappy yes that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► preference file sitting in my library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► folder on my Mac but it just keeps your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► settings like that's why you know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► ever do set up a new Mac I'm faced with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► like how did I set this up because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► a setting that I changed I ran a default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/122">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► write command like in Panther right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► it's it's still carrying over right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► because the plist file is there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► just that's what I want it like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► such a you get such bang for your buck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► out of it if you just keep doing upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► everything over and it's perfectly fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► it's not like Windows you have to wipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/140">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► out your computer don't be afraid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► upgrade install embrace it and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► lots of cool products out there cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► varying degrees that will it will script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► your like so you got a new Mac this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► thing will apply all your settings but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► felt like all of them I've looked into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► lot of them some of them are based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► puppet which is a little bit scary buff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► it's a little bit wonky but Google uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► one based on puppet I think but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/163">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► all sorts of solutions like that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► just some people have a giant like shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► script that they run that does a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/167">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► of things but you don't need any of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► if you just do upgrade installs so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► be afraid to customize your computer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► is a good idea to keep a text file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► around to just remind you what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/177">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► customizations are which is what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► when I got my new Mac at work because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► wasn't upgrade installing from anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► right but for your home computers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► don't have that problem you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► migration assistant connected with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/186">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► Ethernet Wi-Fi firewire I recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► using the fastest connection possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► bring all your crap over from your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► computer to your new one yeah I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► use both extremes on I hardly ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► upgrade my desktop like both hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► and software wise and when I do update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/201">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► to the newest OS on my desktop or get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► new desktop I always do upgrade installs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► however on my laptops which I'm buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► at increasing frequencies I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/214">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► always do clean installs because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► like my secondary system usually I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► less careful with what I install on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► like why like when I installed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► collection of trucks I am usually more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► willing to experiment on it so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► instance right now my laptop has high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► sierra on it my desktop is not so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► laptop I'm always doing clean installs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► my laptops I guess I should say and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/239">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► desktop I always upgrade I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► carrying over the same installation my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/246">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► desktop for a long time now I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► my entire time using Mac's since 2004 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/249">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► think I've done to clean installs on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► desktop or maybe one it's it's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► number and everything else was he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/261">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► and totally fine you know like John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► probably have a lot of clutter I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► I could get rid of but it's also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► you know I have so many things set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► just the way I like them and so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► little details here and there and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► tell because when I go use a cleanly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► installed laptop that I have purchased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► you know for this quarter I can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► tell like oh wow this thing doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► right or this is kind of not quite there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► oh I wish I had this thing here that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► have my desktop set up so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► benefits of both but certainly like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► know the old if you're like me and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► came from the windows world where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► it was basically a horrible idea to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► upgrade like you should in the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► world when I was in it you should only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► ever have done clean installs and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► and even when you weren't changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► Windows versions you should probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► a clean install of your OS like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► six months which I did and because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► hose is so bad at least it was I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/317">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► know I don't know if this one is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► better I haven't honestly many windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► user and literally you know 10 12 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► now at least so it might be better now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► although one thing Windows doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► very well is change so let's see I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► sure in the feedback with that but well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/334">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► yeah so I've seen both and I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► on a Mac you don't need to do clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► installs for the most part almost any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► time ever I only do my laptops more as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► curiosity and you know cleanliness thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► you guys should run LS minus TL tilde [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► slash library slash preferences just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/354">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► library Preferences folder I was giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► you a way to do it 2011 for me what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► your last item jay-z today so the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/366">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► item must December 31st 1969 January 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► of 2016 which is when I got the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► so I yeah that matches my recollection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► which is that this was a cleaner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► what it Marco what is your last item [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/383">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► preference it's a whole bunch of lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► files peelers lock files oh great yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/389">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► crashed while they were in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/395">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► locking something and nothing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► cleaned up the black files yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/398">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► just you know it's all like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/399">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► calms that Apple and bezel surfaces app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► store address book stuff like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► so I must have done a good job cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► out the resource-based ones of a bb-8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► probably still has ones but I moved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► lot of uveitis stuff to Dropbox so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/409">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► synced between machines that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/410">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► preference hack by the way if program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► supported you can similar things into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/414">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► Dropbox and then your preferences will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► be the same everywhere you install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/417">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► Dropbox but anyway my bottom item is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► from 2003 Adobe registration database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► I've also got an air folder an Aladdin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► folder and comm dot and Burgess w dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► even over that P list lots of good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► there 2003 and I think I must have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► through and cleaned out a bunch of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► before this so that's that's how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► very least that's how long I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► doing upgrade installs that have carried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/439">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► over to this exact computer in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► days of Mac OS 10 things were a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► sketchier so I probably lost a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► my folders at various points 2004-2005 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/446">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► represented does never go away so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/452">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► should start with follow up and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► some follow up with regard to the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/459">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► pixel and we had a handful people write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► in various degrees of anger mostly just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► emails about how we how we didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► give Google enough credit and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► happens every time we talk about Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► and I think some of it is justified like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/473">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► I said I mean it's not unreasonable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► someone to say hey you know we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► know Google in and out like we at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► think we know Apple but uh one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► things that we had said and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► was me especially the head said was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/485">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► I thought it was kind of bogus that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► buddy at work could pre-order his or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► maybe just straight-up order his Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► pixel to excel maybe whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/494">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► without he ordered ordered it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► exactly which by the way whatever joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► he made to what was it you said pixel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► ten or something like 10 L yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► joke was much better than I gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► credit for because it flew right over my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► head when it happens right so I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► to publicly acknowledge that I missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► lamenting that it's it's it's a bummer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► that I have to wake up 3:00 in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► morning to give Apple a whole shitload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► of my money which of course I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► to do but that's what I need to do if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► want to get it in a timely fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► and entitled materialistic American so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► I hope I pronounced that right I asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► for help I hope I got that right wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► in to say you know Apple watches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► iPhone 8 in more than 25 countries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► will add dozens more this year the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► pixel the original pixel so a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► pixel is still only available in six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► countries which I thought was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► interesting point so here it is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► beatin up on Apple for not really doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► the pre-order the way I wanted it at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► time I wanted it but you know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► really good point that Apple is shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► shipping far more phones then Google is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► and that that comes with it some penalty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► if for lack of a better word and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► it's just harder to do yeah and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► that also even restricts like what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► of component choices and manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► methods that Apple and materials that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► Apple can even use in the iPhone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► Apple just makes so many more iPhones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/580">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► than pretty much anything else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► computer and electronic world that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► it's hard to even fathom like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► realities of how they need to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► and the restrictions it puts on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► like like that remember like there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► there was a brief rumor before last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► year's phone that they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► make one out of ceramic and people a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► people with knowledge of that business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► basically said like there isn't enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► ceramic making capacity in the world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► satisfy like like they'd like even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► they bought like every machine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► wouldn't be enough capacity and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► like you know what Apple has to do it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► their scale is so unlike what most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► companies have to worry about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► because you know not only do they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/630">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► to make a lot of them but they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► make a lot of them quickly and all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► the world like this is not easy and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/635">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► like it's it's almost impossible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► compare anything else to what Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/642">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► with the iPhone but anyway you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/643">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► the the feedback we got about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► mostly my dismissing remarks about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► basically was like it's interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► every you know every time a Google phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► comes out all the reviewers say wow this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and then they just abandon it like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/661">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► weeks later for the next Samsung thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► iPhones if they were iPhone people most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► of the feedback we got didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► contradict that it was more like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► wrong because I like it and that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► I'm not saying that nobody likes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► pixel but that it's not a that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► devices and I and I hope some day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► will become mass-market devices because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► as I said last episode when Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► really good competition Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► better and even though I don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► interest in switching to Android I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► there to be amazing Android phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► keep pushing Apple to make the phones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► use better button the Google pixel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► former Nexus series they just don't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► in enough volume to really make Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► have to worry about really anything so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► again I hope that changes over time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► that is still the reality yeah I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► agree with that also in the Google camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Josh Lampkin writes and he wrote an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► email describing kind of the repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► process because I think he took issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► with the fact that one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► that it might have been Marco but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► us said it was that hey you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► has all this retail presence and Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► advantage for Apple which you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► much as we all love mint the time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► takes to the Genius Bar appointment I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► still stand by what Marco said but Josh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► writes in and said in summary that if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► needs to get a repair done on his pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► phone the repair is an overnighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► replacement unit with a box for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► existing phone and it's all done online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/753">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► replacement Android device before my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/757">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► usual geek bar appointment would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► in other words if he has a problem he I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► guess on the phone if possible and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► not on the web he goes and reports an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/765">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► issue and ends up talking like live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/767">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► chatting with a Google representative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/768">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► legitimate problem they will overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/771">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► refurbished phone so it'll be there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► following day and and he takes that box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► puts his existing phone in it ships it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► back and that's it job done and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► what that sounds pretty fricking great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► to me it's not as quick is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► going into the Apple store and getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► screen replaced in the span of two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► but that's pretty good for a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► presence yeah gotta give him credit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► I still think Apple is way ahead of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► on so many levels by having physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/803">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► expected legal process to be because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/807">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► in the past not even that distant past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/809">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► directly purchased a tronic device was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► nightmare yeah as when I add that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/817">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► an old man playing World of Warcraft on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/821">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► an iMac in a Panera Bread I'm nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/822">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► not make this unfounded disparaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► remarks about Google because the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► thing that I would have added that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► conversation about Google if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► anything to add which I always I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► feel like I did was my impression of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► Nexus line and this was echoed by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► couple of people who said feedback was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/840">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► like I don't know if Google is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► trying to make a mass-market phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► this is just their excuse but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► always like this is what you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► with our operating system if you made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► cool phone now everybody else who uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► our operating system go make cool phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► exemplars out a whole bunch them that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► why is only for sale in six countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/861">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► it's just kind of like showing the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► to other people kinda like reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/864">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► whatever maybe not quite the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► because they're not just giving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► design to other people but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/870">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► if that's actually true or if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► just something they say when they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► sell a lot of them but yeah indeed so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/873">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► something that something relates to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► guessed it Cellular Apple watch service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► oh yes it does we're giving more time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► this we are giving more time to this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► know why that they even charge him tax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► and additional fees oh yeah I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► about this that's that is the executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► that is that is the executive summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► but I have received my first bill since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► I have activated my cellular Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► my $10 a month service which I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/912">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► ignorant Lee and naively so I was hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/917">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► would be not too much more than ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/921">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► dollars a month would you - if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► not already clicked the link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/924">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► notes would you like to guess how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► this is it like 12 or 13 $17 John did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► you look at the show notes because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► did not $17.40 so the the monthly plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/934">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► charges is $10 and I will put a link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► I will put an image in the show in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► show notes way up is there a convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/943">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► fee like when you buy tickets online the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/944">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► breakdown is very quickly $10 for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/948">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► federal Universal Service charge two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► dollars and 42 cents regular Tori cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► recovery charge one dollar and 25 cents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► and Virginia equipment tax recoupment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► seven cents II don't like photo and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/961">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► not to mention the government taxes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/966">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► fees well I think that is everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► think that the federal Universal Service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/969">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► charge is that the two dollars and forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► two what about the different taxes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► fee is the 290 VA Virginia Wireless 9 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► 1 and Wadena communication sales tax oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► I didn't scroll down on my own image my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► mistake yes you're exactly right two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► dollars and ninety cents of which 75 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► cents is Virginia t91 and two dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► and 15 cents is Virginia communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► yeah so you actually are 1740s Wow there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► you go what kind of tiny size do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► have your web browser window that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/997">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► had to scroll to see the bottom of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/998">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► image this is the real question as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► web browser like a tiny slit like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► window on a no because all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► now now we're gonna have to go down this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► a glimpse into Casey's life it all his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► web browser the windows are one inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► tall I'm sure you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► crazy windows setup so as I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► minor minor proportion like sheets of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► paper because that's the same proportion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► of her web browser window so only when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► record this show only when I record this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► show so I have four panes on my single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► virtual desktop so I don't really bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► with my spaces as I usually do when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► typically using the computer in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► upper left hand corner Skype in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► upper in the upper right hand corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► taking up approximately a quarter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► screen as my web browser and the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► which by the way is Chrome only because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► speaking I never touch Chrome the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► right hand corner is Visual Studio code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► to work on the show notes and the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► colloquy which is how I get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► chatroom so it is effectively divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► and the in this is on my 5k iMac and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► this particular window was about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► quarter of the screen and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► not barely not enough to see that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► inefficient use of space you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► you're using Windows wrong oh I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► yeah that's it's actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► perfect but no this is an incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► poor use of space like first of all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► things overlapping when I'm recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► the sidebar on the Kaku and oh come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► yeah you don't need to go that big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► don't need colloquy to be anywhere near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► that big window is as small as I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► possibly make it I wish I could make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► smaller but you know Skype being Skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► it has like nope you could never make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► a reasonable size the small as it ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► yeah and and your your text editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► window like that's a terrible aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► ratio for writing notes like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► like the the portrait orientation sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► of paper aspect ratio is way better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► text editors I love all the white spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► browser windows are the huge margin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► left and right but it cuts off another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► thing anyway stop stop tiling your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► windows that's amazing this is only for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► when I record you picture how many how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► many S's do you have in your in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► menu bar there I'm like alright so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► got a lot of icons why are the 3 s's 4 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► s is one of them is way over on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► right now it's it's even worse it see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► mr. dollar signs are they I can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► really break it in the dough there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► your menu bar you got three dollar signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► wait does that does that mean your menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► bar is expensive like on Yelp no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► hiding do you want to know what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► what's a little pinwheel next to Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► all right the s have Siri enabled at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► but it's all the way over there are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► love of God people my menu bar is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► disaster I'll be the first to admit it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► the dollar signs are because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► installed the most recent version of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► I step menus but apparently did never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► entered my registration and so it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► apparently how long has that been now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► don't know for maybe a few days maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► all the benefit you're getting from I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► statin menus I need to keep an eye on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► dollar signs who's saying that oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► who's saying that I'm drawing a blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► Snoop Dogg gettin juice I don't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► I just put my updated menu bar in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► robot and I'm sorry live listeners it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► it I will be the first to tell you it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► not good it's not good and and it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► embarrassed by it especially because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► a devout as few things in the menu bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► I can get a Serio to the menu bar I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► to do that fuzzy clock come on oh can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► get Siri out of the menu bar I gotta do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► yes you have a translucent menu bar - no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► that's God that cannot that cannot be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► didn't even know that was still a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► let's let's play a new game like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► won't Casey notice about his computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► did know I did know about the dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► signs is my menu bar I was going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► I was going through my like a file full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► undocumented stuff like turn off window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► animations and I saw the one about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► translucent menu bar I'm like oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► glad that feature isn't in my quest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► anymore I wanna say thought it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► there anymore but apparently it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► just like my my pilla setting has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► surviving multiple OS updates or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► it's a checkbox now I think it says it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► in the display panel well figure I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► figure it out I'll do some real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► follow up in three hours when I finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► oh wow that's all right so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► it's the fight suffice it to say never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► ever ever talk about your setup with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► these two numbskulls not smart my word I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► can't find this this is driving me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► bananas where is it you might have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► that you might have to do the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► thing so in summary I pay too much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► my Apple watch and it makes me sad yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► I I agree so I was totally railing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► against you that you know complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► about $10 a month to the degree that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► complained about it was unnecessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► however it was still like that's I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► still agree that that is a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► than what it should cost I just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► think it was worth complaining as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► as you did and you know not getting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► as a result however $17 a month really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► which is what this really is that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► different story that's really pushing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► like it is not worth that for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► anybody which is unfortunate but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► I don't know like because so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► basically being treated as a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► cellular bills you know taxing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► regulation system and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► it's possibly because because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► numbersync even though the watch does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► technically have its own number it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► same way like my iPad has its own phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► number assigned to it when I activated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► it with cellular but you can't call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► you can't do anything with that phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► number it's just like an implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► detail of something having a cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► service but it's it shouldn't be treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► the same way as like a regular phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► line is and so maybe the watch is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► misclassified maybe it's temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► I don't know but that's messed up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► to have to for a $10 fee to have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► seven dollars in taxes and BS on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► that that's yes yeah and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► quick not real-time follow-up but quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► follow-up I found on my AT&T bill that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► there is to your point Marco an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► occurred to me like that I could call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► that number and I feel like I had heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► on a podcast somewhere maybe it was Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► somebody had talked about this and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► turned off Bluetooth on my phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► then used my cell phone to dial my Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► watch and once it you know once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► realized the phone wasn't there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► fell back onto cellular sure enough I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► could dial this unique number that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► unique to my Apple watch and it rang no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► problem which is exactly what I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► makes sense I'm not saying it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► bad or wrong or anything but it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► weird and kind of funny that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► no that is bad and wrong that means it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► gonna get robo calls Oh interesting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► very well may yeah yeah now but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► on the plus side the only way that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► happen is if it actually has a cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► radio on which only happens when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► away from the phone which for me only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► happens once or twice a day if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► get robo calls during the time and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► really want to be like focused on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► exercise or whatever else or focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1481">TS</a>]
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00:25:04 ◼ ► post about Instagram or Facebook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1504">TS</a>]
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00:25:18 ◼ ► photos at fracture directly on two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1518">TS</a>]
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00:26:24 ◼ ► tell me about Sonos which I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► about in Google assistant which I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► don't care about we missed this last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► week when we talked about it oh so Imus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► integrating with Amazon and what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► deal with them you're doing the Alexa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► stuff so notice is trying to apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► trying to be the hardware platform that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► is host to anybody who has a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► thing that you can talk to so Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► assistant there's another software thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► you can talk to and Sonos is apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► integrating with them I'm not quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► how it works you bias honest thing do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► you get to say do you want to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► the Amazon personal assistant Voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► thingy or do you want to talk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► Google one or do you pick when you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► it like an old Verizon iPhone versus 18t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► an iPhone thing don't know the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► but this this kind of changes doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► change but like I'm trying to get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► combination of Amazon and who's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► out ahead in this deal and what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► strategies are and there's two parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► this one is that the some of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► with voice assistance certainly Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► but maybe also Google will see seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► be initially pursuing the tragedy of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► want our voice thing everywhere is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► apparently available on an anchor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► product to a and keer the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► make like the chargers and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► various times Amazon has talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► spreading their voice thingy everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► microphones that you can talk to and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► want to do a business deal with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► they'll connect it up to Amazon because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► now you can or paper towels through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► whatever because you talk to it right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► that's one way you can go it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► like the the windows everywhere strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► of you know we you know just think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► Amazon for the most part with its where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► televisions you buy will have it built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► in just like netflix most boxes you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► will have it built in except for apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► because of a grudge match thing going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► there and they'll put their voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► assistant aren't hardware products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► are not made by them whether it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► notes or anchor or probably anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► who will do whatever deal yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► their ideal future is wherever you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► you can just yell out the name of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► voice assistant that I'm trying to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► saying and order paper towels and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► you know figure out who you are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► seventy bees that you know easy ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► send Amazon your money it's great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► and Google assistant being on so knows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► don't know if Google is spreading its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► assistant far and wide but being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► summits as well it's only okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► we're not going to say if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► talk to the Google assistant you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► buy an Android phone or Google home you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► can talk to the Google assistant through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► your summer speaker at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► and possibly other places as well and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► the other side of that if you're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► knows their strategy seems to be like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► make great hardware and we have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► the wireless communication stuff and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► iOS app or whatever to do multi-room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► audio and all the stuff that we do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► don't do an assistant but we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► going to tell you which assistant you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► have to use we're not gonna say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► believe the one only true assistant is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► the Amazon one and that's it that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► if you have an assistant that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► to talk you through our speaker let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► a deal and I guess they'll let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► customers decide and when I think of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► know if if the Amazon strategy is Alexa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► everywhere well I think of the son of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► strategy I feel like are you trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► be the hardware makers in the PC age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► where Windows is everywhere and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► Microsoft doesn't really care who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► licensing windows for their hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► just let the hardware people fight it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► out and then you'll just be marginalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► and be fighting over a razor certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1798">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► margins against everyone else who makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► a speaker that has Amazon or Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► assistant integrated the difference here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► of course is that no voice assistant is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► as dominant as Windows was if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► changes then yeah the hardware people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► are in a bad position because I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► like most of the value isn't the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► that you talk to especially if the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► that you talk to buys you things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► like the store one of the people runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► and then way off to the side less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► you wouldn't forget is Apple who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► really have an Amazon video TV app still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► right we're still waiting for that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► keep yep right so Amazon is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► being mean to them about that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► they're everywhere else they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► speaker thingy but it hasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► shipped yet when it does ship you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► sure that it will not support Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► you know voice stuff right and so far it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► doesn't seem like a Kapil is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► putting Syria everywhere well my next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► television has Siri built-in can i buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► so some very different strategies in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► early age of cylinders that you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► and to wrap all this up our friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► Steven Hackett had a nice post about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► smart speaker conundrum and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► is similar to a lot of tech nerd people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► who may have man manners they may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► gone in too deep with like too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► different stuff like well my lightbulbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► speak this but I like Apple stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► subscribe to google play music but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► have you know it gets very confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► very fast the short blog post you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► read it but just to get an idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► choices that you have to make about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► sort of Internet of Things hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► products you buy what software services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► you pay for and can they all talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► each other and work together and how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► purchase do I continue to go down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► road that I was going down before with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► bunch of Amazon things do I ditch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► everything and go to an all Apple world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► but what about the Sonos even Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► who's mostly dedicated the a my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► thing is kind of in that situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► because you were saying you know do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► have to buy a Samus thing or maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► the so most will just by existing echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► products will talk to my existing Sonos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► what do I do or do I switch over to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► completely someone else and get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► the echos because why do I need them if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► this oness all have smarter of things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► them but can the Sonos thing talk to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► light bulbs I don't know I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► glad I'm I'm out of this market for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► most part other than having a cylinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that I can talk to but it doesn't things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► don't look smooth over there this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► I could say yeah I mean this is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► first of all some quick follow-up well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► some half follow-up last episode I had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► had questioned whether it was possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► to just set up your Amazon echo devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► to talk to existing Sonos devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► without having the news owners one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► answer is yes that I set it up tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► however I didn't actually test it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► because I was too busy playing start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► valley all night but I will add two you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► for just general like kind of buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► advice or you know guiding people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► what to do why all this stuff is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► all crazy like this as much as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► get things that speak multiple languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► basically like you know the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► Sonos if so knows ends up really pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► this off in a big way like if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► really do have airplay to support which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► is not having Siri built-in but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► that's but having airplay to it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► allow it even better integration with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► the Apple ecosystem so if they pull off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► airplay to which they promise for next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► year if they pull off the Google system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► which they also promise I believe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► next year or is that immediate do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► member anyway they put in Google system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► sometime soon and right now there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► few weird little asterisks about voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► control so basically the with so noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► you can't access Spotify through voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► control even though the echo products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► can and and you can't access Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► through voice control even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► Sonos products can so there's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► little weird exceptions to like well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► can do mostly everything except it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► do this little exception I came for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► low exception kind of like USB see there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► anyways all these little exceptions so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► it's hard to say for sure like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► this device or this device can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► everything but it sure does look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► you know Google is never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► integrate anything like their goals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► never gonna have Siri or airplay to from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► Apple they're never going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► probably the Amazon assistant or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► kind of integrations amazon has amazon's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► also never never going to have the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► from Apple but will also never do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► Google assistant Sano's is probably set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► up so far with the things we know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► have the most support from the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► places which is why it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► even though it has those weird little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► exceptions to things and when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► buying products like smart home stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► these days it's not that hard to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► stuff that supports both home kit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► the the Amazon devices so you might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► well do that when you can but all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► stuff is so so early that it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► advisable to just wait on a host of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► the stuff even though it's fun like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► if you are averse to having to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► some of the gear you buy now in a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► or two when standards change or when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► want to change eco systems or when some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► ego system cuts off some other your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► system that used to be integrated if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► you're averse to that just don't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► anything yet if you do jump in now be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► prepared for that possibility in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► respects are saying like apples is off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► there in the corner like with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► proprietary stuff that it's never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► mix with anybody else and that it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► even shipped it's it's very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► cylinder and who knows how good it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► even be and meanwhile everyone else on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► their second or third iteration and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► this big ecosystem and lots of users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► advantage of the Apple still has because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► there is still no dominant real really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► dominant player in this market on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► hardware or software side at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► except for I guess maybe Amazon but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► don't think they ever tell us what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► sell is that if you do go all Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► subscribe to Apple music you buy Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► stuff you buy the Apple home pod you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► have you know airplay support and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► your thing is you have Apple TV's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► everywhere at least you can be sure all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► that stuff works together whereas I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► I guess Google if you have an Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► phone and a home thing you're kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► the same situation but Amazon doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► have you know a desktop laptop operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► system they have a tablet OS but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► know if you're really gonna buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► tablet they don't have a phone anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► right they don't sell the fire felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► that no one has as complete an ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► as Apple and so no one can offer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► type of just buy everything from us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► your whole life from your computer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► your phone to your television to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► tear we're cylinder speaker that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► well I'm subscribed to our music service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► we'll all work together they've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► biggest picture I supposed to Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► does two if you count like the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► those weird Google laptops and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► Chromebooks and stuff as well although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► tend not to count those so if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► money to burn and you wanted to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► sure you had a system that all work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► together that would be one way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► swimming out boy if you ship that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► and it was any good but I don't see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► that can hold long-term I you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► if Apple just wants the high-end and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► some of us isn't successful then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► they can get that but I hope eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► standards start to emerge and coalesce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► what the safe approaches when you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► and have some reasonable chance that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► will be useful for a long time but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► Margot said right now there is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► that's the case for you want to buy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► play with it's cool and it's fun fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► but don't buy it and then two years be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► all annoyed because you have to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► half of it or you know it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► obsolete or doesn't work with your new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► I am also I'm increasingly concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► about apples chances to really make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► dent in this market because at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► as everyone else progresses and advances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► so quickly the the possible advantages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► Apple has keep getting I think that list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► keeps getting shorter and that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► main factors of the reasons why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► increasingly concerned about apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► competitiveness so for instance you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► not only my previous concerns about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► things like price connectivity and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► quality of Siri and and the consistency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► of Syria to react quickly and correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► to as many queries as possible I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► increasingly concerned that if having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► you know Internet of Things things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► you know if that's important or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► interoperability with anything else with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► any of these other systems are important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► or if third-party apps support is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► important apples are gonna really fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► down hard in those areas probably for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► and so I really I really have concerns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► like not that they'll sell none of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► things they'll sell some but are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► looking at the next Amazon echo or we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► looking to the next iPod hi-fi took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► while they are going to and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► loosened up the homekit stuff in various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► ways which shows I think they know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► they need to do something but my biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► concern with Apple is everyone else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► shipping and shipping again and multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► generations like it was hoist this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► from it was down in the topic section I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► didn't talk about speak about the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► home max and minnie which is the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► mini is a tiny little puck thing kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► like the look yeah kodanda yeah and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► the max is a big you know so no size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► multi-speaker thing it's got two big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► woofers and two big tweeters you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► for better sound this is Google's annex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► second or maybe third iteration of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► they're home products and they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► have multiple form factors in three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► different sizes Apple still has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► shipped it's one single form factor very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► first cylinder they're so far behind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► can't be in this game if you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► even shipped your thing yet where is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► you know the three different sizes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► Apple stuff you know the second or third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► revision of the hardware and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► and you know the ecosystem that's built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► up around it that's you have to ship you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► have to be you have to start make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► first one that doesn't seem like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► interested in then make your second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► then make your line of three new ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► catching up to do if they if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► to do something here and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► lucky essentially that no one standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► or thing has to really completely run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► away with it and again maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► that's not true maybe Amazon has run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► away with it and we just don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► because people are shy about their sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► numbers but and you know Google is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► also-ran that very few people get but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► marketing and brand recognition is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► something that could save it if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► a practice actually good but we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► do you think it's still gonna ship this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► year did they say was supposed to I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► thinking I was gonna ship next year no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► they they said home pop was I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► they said either later this year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► December I forget which is counted as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► because they said such a late ship data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► it's like well you're not making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► just pretend it's next year yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► sounded kind of like they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► like pretty much miss the holidays but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► maybe you can place an order on December [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► 15th even though you probably won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► probably won't get it by the holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► like I that's kind of odd but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► they're not going to launch this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► without having another event right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► because right now we know nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► its capabilities all we know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► it's sound plays music that's always but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► we don't know like you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► anything about Siri on it we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► anything about any other kind of smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► anything about it like we we they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► so they probably wouldn't launch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► without some kind of small event or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► I don't like but time is running out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► the year for when they might do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► yeah like I don't like I'm I would bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► nothing about it since then I bet it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► I bet it's delayed which is even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► concerning if it's true don't become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► with an Apple TV remote that you hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► down the speaker button and talk and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► when you wanted to play something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► your neck on a lanyard we are sponsored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► this week by Squarespace start building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2531">TS</a>]
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00:42:15 ◼ ► and enter offer code ATP at checkout to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► get 10% off make your next move with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► beautiful website from Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► Squarespace is by far the easiest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► most practical and pragmatic way I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► ever seen to make websites for pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► much anything and whether it's a store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► or a blog or a podcast or a portfolio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► you can do so much with Squarespace with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► such incredible ease and then the output [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► is professionally designed it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► amazing and this isn't just like rigid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► templates you can customize them as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► as you want you can go from you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► everything all the way down to the nitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► gritty if you want to you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2578">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► inject code if you're a developer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► you know what you're doing it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► easy to do you have so much power so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► much customization they have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► features they can even fit them in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► podcast ad they have things like logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► designer is domain registration built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► storefronts for digital or physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► goods all sorts of awesome features all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► built in at Squarespace so check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► today at squarespace.com and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► decide to sign up make sure to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► offer code ATP to get 10% off your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► purchase make your next move with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► beautiful website from Squarespace all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► right any other follow-up oh yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► is one more which I am deeply afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► bring up somebody has written hi Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► update and then some but it was this me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► did I write this maybe I wrote this god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► yes seriously I don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► doing Casey's fear in his FOMO I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► know why I wrote this cuz I wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► taste go but these women write and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► wrote it you don't even know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► because you were asking before like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► you wrote you wrote fomo in here you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► not kc thing to say sure but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► you're above that I thought I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► think anyway it's the thing that you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► a lot so it's a good anyway this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► about you asking hey can I update hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► Sierra have freaking permission no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► just want reassurance in any way so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► like it's a balancing of your fear which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► is like what if updated and house is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► computer and you're follow which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► everyone else to run hi Sierra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► they're all having fun and hi Sierra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► I'm over here and just plain old Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► it's not high at all and I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► the cool new desktop background which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► the most important feature no I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► important features Apple watch unlock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► for my fancy cellular Apple watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► desktop background is actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► nice though so last time we talked I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► some peer about it it was like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► fucking an update and it's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► scary and you know you got the new file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► system and the new version of photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► hearing some weird stories and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► so forth but actually shortly after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► show an opportunity presented itself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► just update my wife's computer after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► doing umpteen backups and so I did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► it was entirely uneventful other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► one one thing which I mean it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► all tied up in the OS the new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► photos which I've been playing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► lot is being a little bit cranky I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► know if I want to blame this on a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► version of photos because if you google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► for the error I'm getting it is a many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► many years old error Mike it's for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► entire life of the photos application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► you can go back in time and see this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► not there's not a new phenomenon but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► it's a thing where it hangs there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► closing library like you do you quit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► it shows a tiny little window that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► closing the library dot dot dot and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► it will just hang there forever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► leave it overnight and come back it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► still stay closed in the library and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► course you don't want to kill it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► because you're like well it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► corrupt its library or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► like oh just hold down the option key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► when you launch it and you can repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► your database which I did and it took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► really long time to run and it repaired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► and then I use photos for and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► quit it's a closing library I just sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► that for a long time so I did a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► samples I filed a bug they sent me back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► some scary instructions to enable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► super duper debug mode on photos which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► may do if I get desperate but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► only problem I've had other than that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► just just pretend like nothing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► happened there's like a new desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► backgrounds for everybody and photos has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► a bunch of new features in it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► still slow by the way and so I'm fine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► doesn't mean Casey should update cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► maybe it will be disastrous for you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► I did it and nothing weird happened all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► my time machine updates in here to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► crash planking things run no software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► stopped working everything it just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► there's one of those updates where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► know it it seems like nothing actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► happens I guess means that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► taking advantage of whatever a cool new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► features are in there that I'm supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► to be looking at but it's fine with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► that's what I wanted I wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► uneventful and so far other than photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► being photos it is so I actually have hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► Sierra on both my work and my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► computer in my MacBook adorable and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► been just fine but I've been scared / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► hesitant to do it on my iMac because god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► forbid there is some sort of issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► whatever I guess I could fall back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► Erin's MacBook Air and presumably pour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► another cup of water on it but I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► basically asked in the relay slack hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► have you guys upgraded and Dan Morey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► I think one or two other people had said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► yes I have and it's been fine and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► like I said it's been fine in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► other regard other than podcasting but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► hadn't tried any of the podcast related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► stuff yet and I think the more the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► is I'm probably gonna do it after we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► record this show not like tonight but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► you know sometime in the next few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► make backups my computer that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► recording this podcast on is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► running El Capitan because it's my 2000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► a Mac Pro and Karen's here oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► fine like I'm saying is I wasn't if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► was trying to do it on the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► where I recorded podcast maybe I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► even more wary but my wife's computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► felt like you know I had her permission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► more or less I talked to her about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► she just I was trying to say I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► I'm thinking of you know it might I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► her it might take many many hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► because you can't say oh the update will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► take like an hour but like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► if it had gone wrong with an add to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► restore from backup that's like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► just I'm going to start this process at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► again if I started a new and worst case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► scenario you get your computer back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► tomorrow midday as I just spent hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► doing tremendous amounts of io right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► right so let's do some ask ATP let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► it'll start with Kyle Kyle writes in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► say hey ATP what browser do you guys use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► I like the idea of using Safari on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► my devices but Chrome's extensions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► I do use I think I got this idea from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► Marco actually I do use Chrome on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► occasion as like my Google Docs slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► flash quarantine the flash part isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► really a thing barely ever anymore but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► from time to time I need it for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► restaurants but I use it for Google Docs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► which is why I have it open for tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► because I have that our show notes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► but generally speaking 99% of my web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► browsing for anything personal is Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► on every platform I also use Google for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► work-related things because our work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► all in on Google Apps but other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► work and other than basically when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► record the show it's pretty much all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► Safari to me I am NOT a heavy extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► user on either browser personally I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► can't fathom using Chrome full-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► especially on a laptop but really at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► because I find it to be no faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► Safari which I know everyone's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► write in and tell me how wrong I am but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► I don't find it to be any faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► Safari and it is such a battery hog that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► it's just I can't do it I don't know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► personally I don't know why anyone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► so with that in mind Marco what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► use pretty much same thing I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► doing for a long time now which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► Safari for almost everything and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► Chrome on the desktop as you described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► for either sites I don't trust or things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► that require flash or things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► generally in the Google ecosystem so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► Google Docs as you mentioned it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► of like my podcasting brush like I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► have open now so like my first few tabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► or all like the stuff that I needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► record podcast stuff because it started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► out being Google Docs and it kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► know became my convention from there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► also I use Facebook for a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► groups that have to be a part of and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► I don't even have the app installed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► and yeah not do anywhere else and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► have you know their creepiness attract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► me you know tracking me all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► place and etc I i respect why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► like chrome that there were times in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► professional career and my home life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► where I have used chrome full time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► ended up switching back after a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► but chrome is fine I just really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► Safari a lot better so I run both Chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► and Safari all the time on all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► computers that I use which may sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► crazy remember I'd use desktops or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► have a lot of type of work that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► pretend is a desktop so I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► about battery because everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► always plugged in now is this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► you're hitting some kind of limit on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► many tabs and windows that one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► can have open at once you know why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► do it this split by I feel like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► are advantages to both browsers Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► has always been and still as my default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► so if I click a link in anything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► opens in Safari I like both browsers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► lot Chrome I use all my Google stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► I use Gmail for my email and I figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► like there's a nice synergy which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► sure that like Google's properties or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► whatever will all work well in Chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► because it's in Google's interest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► make sure that's that they I'm sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► work fine in Safari too but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► seems more natural for me to do all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► Google stuff I use a Google Calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► Google Docs you know all that stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► in Chrome and Safari for general web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► browsing I use Chrome for general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► browsing too cuz Safari still does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► nothing occasionally to me where it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► says I'm not into loading web pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► anymore I always feel like it's selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► to me you have too many windows open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► right like you've got a lot of Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► you've got a lot of browser windows open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► I know that you typed an address to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► address bar and hit return I might just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► stay here as a white window for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► to punish you for having like maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► not gonna load windows anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► furthering that fact and sometimes I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► be like all right what if I close one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► these background windows and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► okay now I can load like I've said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► before like it feels like it's out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► file descriptors that's not what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► happening it doesn't say that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► console but it's that type of feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► where it's like it's exhaust is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► kind of resource whereas Chrome every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► single time I open a new window or tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► and type a URL into the address bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► hit return it loads the damn page every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► does and that is super important to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► and I love chrome for that and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► use Chrome's dev tools and I don't love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► this about Chrome but I use it for anode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► debugging to I know there are better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► solutions I'm just still stuck using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► Chrome for that so I use both but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► safaris my default but I do really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► Chrome and not because of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► installed I just I just think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► good reliable web browser all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► Sebastian writes in continuing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► John portion of the show what are John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► thoughts on the new Accord and we kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► of touched on this in what will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► end up being the after show that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► talked about before we started really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► recording so you may not have heard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► listeners but there will be more a chord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► talk at some point or another but John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► what are your thoughts on the new Accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► I think it's ugly er than my generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► of a chord which is a shame I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► fact that you get the stick shift with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► the big engine I'm not sure about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► anything beyond that because I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► actually driven it myself all I can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► is that it seems like Honda is going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► the right direction with those cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► it's getting good reviews but I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► of glad that both I and my wife got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► previous generation the only thing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► really jealous of in the new one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► infotainment because my apartment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► dire and this one is less dire koumei [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► writes in for command line work do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► just use terminal or are you partial to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► a third-party app and so marcos since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► you were quiet before let's start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► you I had forgotten that there even were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► third-party terminal app site so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► weighs is this the question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► terminal clients or is it about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► using gooeys versus terminal commands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► for things like MySQL and get and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► like that let's make it all of the above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► so hey what what what what shell are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► on B and what kind of Orion whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► please don't confuse that with terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► you know it's one of my pet peeves why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► would you do that to me John I was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► of your pet peeves actually I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► either but okay so a long list are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► on a bash or something else or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► ridiculous one that John insists on are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► you on the the stock terminal app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► something else and when you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► things like git do you tend to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► so all three of those starting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► Marco and I have answers as well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► I'll round I'll round us all out at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► end okay I use apples normal terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► app I find it great I have never sought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► a different one because I'm very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► with it you know I use Bosch because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► know probably the same reason most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► people use Bosch it's already there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► it's what I've always known I know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► are better shells out there but it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► just never been worth it for me to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► only you know learn new shell but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► to put it on all the different not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► Mac's but all the servers that I login [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► to I mean I log in to like 30 surfers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► a regular basis so it's not like yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► can't you know you could try to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► automate stuff but like it would just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► would be a pain for me to switch away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► from bash and IR and it's fine I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► it's not amazing but it's fine as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► you know gooeys versus terminal commands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► for you know things that programmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► deal with so things like git MySQL you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► know PHP and any kind of like in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► database source control kind of stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► use terminals terminal commands for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► almost all of it including any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► you know MySQL administration things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► like that the only thing I really use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► gooeys for is I do still use them I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► now use them forget I used the the get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► tower app for Mac it is wonderful and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► I know most of the git commands that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► know to use it via terminal or by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► command line but get is terrible on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► command line I mean it's hard enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► understand in a GUI let alone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► command line and so I find that while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► can do these things in the command line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► I usually prefer not to because not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► is the GUI less error-prone and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► intuitive for these kind of things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► it also provides some really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► features like the way it it diffs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► displays commits and and and file diffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► and per line difts and everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► really nice people to visualize that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► a really nice GUI so I can tell like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► what have I changed in this file what am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► I actually committing you know here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► we're exactly what lines have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► where have they changed it just it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► you know all the stuff is possible on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► the command line but it's just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► forgotten what all their questions okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► the terminal app I use the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► terminal one and always have it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► I think I first fell in love with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► when i saw the unlimited scroll back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► feature that's all i want life girl back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► use all my memories life just scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► back cuz I might keep my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► running for a long time and windows open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► for a month although actually I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► of a bit of a serial command carrier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► terminal like trunk getting the scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► back which I shouldn't do and I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► plain old terminal I have dabbled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► things like I term and stuff but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► terminal as is what I've always used and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► it's always been so reliable and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► does its job and all the the basics like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► copying pasting text and having it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► know not copy hard line breaks at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► programs do and stuff like that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► everything works fine when I and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► when I scroll my mouse wheel or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► like or use the the cursor in Emacs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► it picks it up like I don't have to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► all that stuff up it's the terminal type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► is set correctly for all the Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► things expected to be anyway it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► I'm sure the other ones are better but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► don't use them so plain old terminal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► what was the next one command line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► versus GUI apps for shell program or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► anything Oh she'll should I use a cc SH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► because that's what was installed on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► ACS system at bu when I entered College [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► collection of doute files that I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► building up since then I have also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► dabbled in other shells but I was no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► I'm gonna redo all my dot files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► aliases I like tssh and it would take me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► a while for any shell I actually tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► fish as well it would take me a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► for any shell for me to i would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► basically remap everything i'd have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► say i need control R to be reversed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► history search interactive and I need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► to behave exactly the same way as tcsh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► does because if it doesn't my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► won't work anymore and I don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► go with that so I dread the day that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► like compiled Thea tcsh myself the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► example stop shipping it but so far they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► still do and for program retype apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► pretty much always command-line like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► you know I spend many many years using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► perforce and I only use the command-line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► the only time I use the GUI I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► it's not that bad oh wait that one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► I use the gooeys my name did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► like a revision graph or some other sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► of GUI thing and the P for V app but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3597">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► of GUI thing and the P for V app but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► actually know the version control system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► if I don't know how to use the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► line and get is the ultimate challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► that it's like oh yeah try using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► freaking command line I hate it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► passion is so poorly designed everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► about it is terrible and I'm terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► good because I've only been using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► like it worked basically for I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► know like less than a year now I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► really really learned it even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► I've read a million tutorials and at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► point I feel like I finally understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► get but that was like years ago when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► was first created someone wrote a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► good explanation of exactly how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► under the covers and it's like oh now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► but you know years past and it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► leaves your head and nothing sticks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► there because the command line is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► unintuitive and yet I still basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► forced myself to use the command line I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► just make mistakes and I've tried give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► tower and the github as Annapolis the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► other one there's like a third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► that's popular on the Mac SourceTree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► yeah that's one there's and there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► that's side by side get box I think yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► get box yeah get boxes the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► yeah I have all those installed and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► caves my dive into them but I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► wary about doing any version control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► stuff from the way and things like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► command-line always like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► the Postgres command-line is great now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► was spoiled by that though my sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► command line isn't that bad the Oracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► you know sequel plus is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► command line ever created by a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► being and yet still I don't it'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► you feel better about it if you've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► sequel Star Plus or whatever the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► that weird name is so bad but I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► use the command line once for those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► I still have the gooeys installs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► will fire fire them up occasionally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► Oracle has sequel develop Oracle sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► developer or whatever but just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► not good GUI apps even if they run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► Mac they usually like weird Java things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► or they they seem weird and the native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► my sequel and Postgres clients they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► nice but the best interface I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► had isn't like a database has been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► Postgres command line like better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► any GUI that I've used so that's it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► for me I use fish shell for reasons I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► don't even really know I just it's color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► coded nicely some of the scripting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► like more because I've never I was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► really proficient in like bash scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► it makes logical choices in places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► I would expect a logical choice which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► probably more about my own ignorance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► I do basic command line stuff forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► four basic things a lot of the time I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► probably oh man I'd say I probably 50/50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► with git tower and the command line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► certainly any time things get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► wonky I'm looking at git tower because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► agree with the both of you and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► we're gonna get a bunch of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► about it but I agree with you guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► get on the command line is really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► and has never really clicked with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► I use the terminal app so terminal app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► fish and get tower with get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► command line from time to time and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► concludes ask ATP we are sponsored this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3773">TS</a>]
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01:04:02 ◼ ► into like the New York style so once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► again arbitrary stupid goal by Tamara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3845">TS</a>]
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01:04:22 ◼ ► I have a question and I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► expect either of you to have an answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► but at one point and I believe this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► before I had installed it on my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► but I might have my details wrong but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► one point I had my watch or excuse me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► had my phone I think it was like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► house upstairs far enough away that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► watch couldn't see it and maybe I was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► a walk maybe I was in the house on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► other side of the house we don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► terribly large house but I guess we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► on opposite ends of the house from each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► other whatever but the point is my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► notification from the app dude eue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► my watch was on cellular and I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► used the app on my watch at all at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► point I don't believe like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► I had installed it on my watch I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► be wrong about that so maybe I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► answered my own question but my question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► is if the watch app wasn't installed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► I got a do push notification but all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► the all of the stuff that that was in do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► you was living only on the phone like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► don't think I'd set up by cloud syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► or anything like that how did I get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► push notification so in summary is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► is Apple proxying push notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► from the phone to the watch does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► make sense because in theory this wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► a push notification from like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► server somewhere it was from the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► itself so it's like the phone calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► home to Apple and saying hey can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► push this notification to the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► because I can't find it myself again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► don't know if I really expect an answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► from you guys but it seemed the wonky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► that I was and it was good it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► thing don't get me wrong but it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► notification for something I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► expect on my watch should have written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► in to ask ATP did I try that once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► you yelled at me to put it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► notes I'm pretty sure that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► Marco I'm assuming we'll have the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► answer for this if any of us do but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► only thing I have dad is having just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► gone through the watch setup process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► reinstalling watch OS 3 before upgrading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► to four was I was reminded again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► there's an option somewhere and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► watch app preferences that says watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► mirrors notifications on phone sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► sorry and that would seem like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► doing what you said oh it's a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► notification and the watch is set to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► mirror any notification that happens on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► your phone and so it did well but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► think that's more about the settings for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► notifications so as an example let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► take do with the app Tue well okay if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► it's say if you're saying mirror what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► the phone settings are that means just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► do what the phone is doing and if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► means play a sound and show it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► lock screen then the watch will get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► sound and it'll show it you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► like any other notification if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► muted the notifications on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► then the watch would not receive those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► notifications this is in contrast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► going into the watch app on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► and saying no I don't want do on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► watch even though I do want it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► phone that's a terrible choice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► examples because now I'm using D UE and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► do it back to back but hopefully you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► what I'm driving at so it just it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► think this is something different which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► is it felt as though and somebody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► chat is saying the same thing it felt as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► though there was a push notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► that was that was sourced from my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► that wound up on my watch when my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► was on cellular and thus could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► connect to the phone so is that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► proxied by Apple or is there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► some other trickery going on or am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► just plain bananas Marco thoughts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► don't think we know yeah I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► we do either and and I appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► you think I would have more information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► on this as presumably an app developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► but I don't it would be an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► to know whether the notification you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► receive in your watch was a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► notification because you mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► you weren't really sure about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► don't know how do work I don't use it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► I'm not sure but if it was a remote push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► notification that would be easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► figure out because like the way the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► push notifications work on the app side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► is whenever you say yes you can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► this device notifications when you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► install the app the app gets a token [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► that it can use just like a long string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► that identifies that device and when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► the server-side it just basically sends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► a notification service like that token [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► and then a JSON dictionary of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► notification content should be so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► would be perfectly reasonable I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► think the watch gets its own eyes yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► reasonable for the push notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► service if it if it knows of a walk that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► is on LTE to just forward anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► goes to the phones token also to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► notification that's a different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► implementation that would mean right as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► you theorize the phone would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► basically like realize it couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► notification back up to Apple for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► be sent back over to the phone heir to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► the watch rather and that's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► weird when you consider the possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► that a phone can be paired to multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► watches so like needs it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► complicated setup when you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► about the LTE watch like it's it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► kind of like a checkbox of like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► year they added LTE okay like done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► in practice it was probably way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► complicated than the hep because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► things like this people are gonna expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► it to just work and Apple has to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► out how to implement whatever that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► surprise me if they actually did it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► they actually have some kind of crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► proxying system where they're setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► local notifications from the phone back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► up to Apple and then back over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► watch when consider felt elated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► actually might do that but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► and it certainly seems like a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► stuff regarding LTE on the watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► super early and possibly even a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► bit unfinished so it wouldn't surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► me also if this was nothing fancy going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► on if it was just like the same push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► token being used remotely by Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► servers or the other option is maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► was local up to your phone but that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► actually did receive it already or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► was a local notification scheduled to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► at a certain time and the watch just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► copied that over last time it talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► the phone so it just knew like alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► well over the next 24 hours or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► I'm gonna need these notifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► so here I'll just copy them all over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► then I'll show them if if the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► nearby so there are so many ways they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► could do this we don't really know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► and that that totally makes sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► like you said I don't think we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► to know unless a little birdie reaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► interesting to me because it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► and I wish I had taken better notes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► had paid more attention but this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► happened in the midst of me doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► something with Declan and I took enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► of a note to remind myself that I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► to talk to you guys about it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► didn't have the time to document you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► know repro steps or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► anyway so the point is it just felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► the sort of thing where maybe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► being proxied by Apple and that was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► of cool I mean it was again the behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► was what I wanted it's not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► behavior was bad it was just unexpected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► that's all so we'll see I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► we'll figure it out one way or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► but I think all of your less fancy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► also more probable interpretations make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► perfect sense to me so who knows John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► apparently everything's coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► siracusa this week because that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► reference by the way Twitter if ik for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► Mac it is back and it is out so tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► about it yeah this is quick follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► people asked I think up here in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► wrong section oh you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► it's it's yeah anyway because we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► asked about it and asked ADP hey how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► you're liking the the Phoenix betas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► which was the name of this application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► when it was testing for the Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► things this is that whole Kickstarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► that a lot of people funded to get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► to bring back their Mac application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► which they have that languish because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► they just were no customers for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► then the Kickstarter gave them enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► money to remake the app and so I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► using it for a long time and it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► and as I said in the last guest about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► this I'm joining it that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► I wanted now it is out for everybody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► buy it is on the Mac App Store I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► there might let me click through is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► there a direct download I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► know anyway Twitter AFRICOM slash Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► the link will be in the show notes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► you're interested in a Mac Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► client and you don't like any of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► to our clients that are out there check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► this one out it's got an adorable icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► the most important feature of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► Twitter application as far as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► concerned is that it has my beloved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► unified timeline which gives you a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► of all the tweets that are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► mentions replies direct messages and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► the tweets from the people you follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► and their RT it's just one big long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► chronological timeline from the past to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► the future that's it and you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► other views to it don't just just see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► mentions direct messages searches all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► sorts of stuff that's all there too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► the important feature is the unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► timeline sorting and it's just a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► Twitter client so check it out if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► interested yeah so and I kept oh and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► other important feature is on iOS the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► Twitter freak has always been updated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► iOS and it continues to be updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► because it's you know more viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► platform than Mac these days and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► reading position is synced between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► Mac and iOS version we're just super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► important because ever read a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► stuff in my phone and I come to iMac I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► wanted to realize what I read on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► phone in my one big chronological on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4438">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► line and it does and it's great and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► got laser beams if you know where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► find them that's awesome all right John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► tell me about Apple TV gaming this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► from was it the September event that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► of stuff from the September event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► lurking down there for a long time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► didn't want this one to fall at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► they did the gaming segment in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► event yeah there was that that journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► knock off or not knock off what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► that game company that game company made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► another game or something like that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► trying not to offend you and I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► failing yeah I never liked the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► that company that game companies it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► like clever initially but then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► all lowercase oh shit anyway B so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► is Apple TV in gaming we talked a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► about this before about whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► should ship a controller with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► whether they should allow people to ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► games that require a controller which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► they flip-flopped on and now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► saying yes they will and how viable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► it as a gaming platform versus things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► like the switch or a real game console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► or PC or Mac gaming even the steam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► everything and so here Apple is again at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► an important keynote spending time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► talk about it was the Apple TV 4k but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► you know the gaming angle on and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► brought out on stage you know a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► party game developer very well known in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► the industry because they are the makers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► of the journey which is a game that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► two games they made before that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► they're also bringing died or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► they brought flower to iOS which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► erroneously identified as their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► game but it was not their first game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► anyway that I mean that seems like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► aside but I think it factors into what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► I'm going to say and a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► it and this is it's not bringing out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► big guns it's not like they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► Nintendo is on stage with their D do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► that with Mary run I think but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► like you know Apple buys Nintendo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► like you know Ubisoft or EA announce all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► their future games will be on Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► or like but it is significant in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► getting that game company to port their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► games and to make their new game which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► is called sky on Apple's platform that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► only has significance for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► follow the game industry for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► were in two games for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► they've never heard of that game company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► they don't know what flower is or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► haven't played journey like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► be somewhat involved in the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► industry to understand why it's in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► way impressive the Jenova Chen is up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► stage for them you don't have to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► impressed the Miyamoto is telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► the Mara is coming to iOS right lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► name recognition there but that game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► company is more obscuring yet if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► were to get someone who knew a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► gaming to say what's one company you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► get on stage that will make people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► that you're getting more serious about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► gaming without you having to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► billions of dollars to actually buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4618">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► Nintendo or convince one of the big game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► makers to put all their future games on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► your platform or whatever you could find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► a company that basically bankrupted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► exclusive contract with but Sony and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► PlayStation which is why journey isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► on other platforms and would be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► market to say we're trying to start the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► company back up again who's got a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► of money to dump on our head so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► make our next game for their platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► and I'm sure I'm sure Sony approached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► them because you know they made a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► money for Sony with journey and flour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► and flow and you know the line yards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► probably Microsoft approached them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► suitor in Apple who has a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► to dump on people's heads and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► whatever reason maybe they dumped more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► money or maybe that game company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► Genova cham we're tired of dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► Sony or Microsoft or you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► they went with Apple and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► making sky on Apple TV now if anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► follows the game industry knows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► exclusive platform exclusives are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► that people love to announce but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► only really exclusive in certain more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► extreme cases where it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► second-party developer or a very tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► relationship where this will never be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► another platform because we've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► typed the rights but a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► things are exclusive to Xbox exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► to PlayStation for three months for six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► exclusives they call them which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► so you mean not exclusive then right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► this is a multi-platform game it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► goes on one platform first or it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► multi-platform game and ships on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► three days before everything else in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► this special you know features for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► one anyway I'm not clear whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► either way they gave enough money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► help the development of this game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► also money to port their old games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► they were able to I said I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► they can port journey because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► Sony's got the rights to that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► wrapped up but we'll see yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► that's speaking about if Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► journey I'm sure they can give Sony a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► bucketful of money and they would get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► bringing all those to Apple TV and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► a little bit of a head-scratcher because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► like so you're trying to appeal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► people who know what that game company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► is and understand what a great game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► journey was but those people don't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► Apple TV seriously as a gaming platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► because nobody thinks Apple TV seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► is a gaming platform but that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► announcement you're gonna make and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► question I have about this announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► an Apple TV in gaming is like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► going on Apple you are you serious or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► this just like another is this your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► of gaming like you try to do the carpool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► karaoke was popular right people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► that will try that like or is this your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► I'm spending two billion dollars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► hiring all the showrunners from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► fancy shows and that are successful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► other networks like it seems like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► would say that Apple still is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► serious about gaming doesn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► what it takes to be a player in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► gaming industry but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► wanted to have something nice to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► about gaming or maybe like their close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► personal friends with Jenova Chen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► don't even know but it's a mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► announcement for me I'm assuming sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► will be a timed exclusive and not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► exclusive an Apple TV because come on no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► one's like who's gonna who's gonna buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► artsy-fartsy gaming nerds how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► copies of sky are they're gonna sell if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► it literally was exclusive to iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► Apple TV who knows maybe they'll sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► tons of them but I don't think Mario run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► has way more written name recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► than a game that no one's heard of from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► a game developer there's no one hurt no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► one's heard of and even merrier run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► yeah it made a lot of money but Zelda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► made more you know it's selling a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► of switches made more hell did NES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► classic and SNES classic probably made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► more so I don't know like I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► have predicted this and and it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► mysterious to me and I don't know if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► being like biased against Apple thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► though Apple never understands game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► like what do they have to do to prove to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► you understand they have to prove that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4858">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► they understand games they have to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► that like do they know what it takes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► make things that people want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► games on and the Apple TV it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► thing that people want to play games on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► now a place guy on my Apple TV if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► the only place I get it but I would much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► rather play it on my playstation I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► rather play it on my Mac Mac's you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► play games on those right Apple as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► as Apple's concerned you can I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► know so I find that people asking what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► thought if I said like journey so much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► find it interesting but also very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► frustrating and I continue to give Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► the frowny face when it comes to gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► on Apple TV in America that matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► because comp come on like you know valve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► was nice enough to make steam on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► ship with good GPUs support OpenGL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► better let us play games on the Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► anyway that's that's all I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► oh that's all I tried to make it short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► because I have deep feelings about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► but that's the short as I can make it oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► and I wanted to hear are you two going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► to you're a good examples of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► don't give a damn about that game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4918">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► company and don't really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► journey and you know which game come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► didn't know the name sky until it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► announced on stage despite the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► they spent years working on this game or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► again the name was out but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► about the game had been discussed for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► long time because in gaming circles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► are you going to buy this game on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► Apple TV if you didn't already have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► believes would you buy one to play this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► game John I don't even have time to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► the switch and you think I'm gonna buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► game for the Apple TV so you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► gonna buy this it's like absolutely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► you did by journey though didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► PlayStation to play it but and I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► I did don't get me wrong it was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► game but mabye and play this game as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► I get browbeat into it from you which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► quite possible and it's really do I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► anyone playing games with like an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► TV remote am I gonna make you buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► controller jail yeah that's never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► probably never use them again so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► that means same story for you then I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► so when I saw Apple TV gaming sky in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► shownotes document I had forgotten what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► that even was so impactful announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► I'm not a huge game nerd or even gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► I am currently very much enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► stardew valley but I I tend to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► enjoy like one game a year maybe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► then that's it so I really would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► still call myself a gamer it I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► it's going to be interesting to gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► if you come on here and tell me like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► have to play this game I'll play it I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► buy it I'll play it whatever but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► would be the only reason I would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► the Apple TV as much as I wanted it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► be a gaming platform when the fourth gen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► came out and when the App Store for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► launched and everything it just hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► panned out and Apple has done pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► much nothing to help that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► they still they modified the rules so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► the games now can at least require a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► controller if it just is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► work with the Siri remote but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► that it there are so many reasons why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► people don't even think of the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► as a gaming platform and if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► have to go out and spend 50 bucks on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► no one's gonna do that so the the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► is no matter how hard Apple tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► make it a gaming platform which honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► doesn't seem like the try that hard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► if they are trying it's probably futile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► until it comes with a type of remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► reasonably well in the box and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► think it's ever going to happen so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► long as that's not gonna be the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► like no one's gonna go out there and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► an extra controller for 50 bucks just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► play the very small handful of decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► games that are available for the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► so Apple has actually done a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► stuff in service of gaming which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► mysterious thing like all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► they're doing with metal and all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► WEC sessions and all their sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► toolkits for making sprite based in 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► games like they're doing a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► and it's like they don't it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► don't understand how games are made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► the rest of the industry like nobody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► gonna use all they're pretty impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► proprietary frameworks and stuff to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► really good performing games on Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► anyway maybe on iOS they're motivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► because you can sell a lot of games if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► you get the right one in iOS but an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► Apple TV like the only thing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► gonna do is like the best thing they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► done is say okay well we made sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► unity has support for metal and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► those other stuff like that the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► game engines and the Unreal Engine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► all that stuff have reasonable support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► for the underlying frameworks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► they're putting money into it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► like is it it's hard to tell is it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► oh this is mostly just for phone games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► because people make a lot of money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► phone games and by the way it happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► also benefit Apple TV because if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► trying to if you're trying to compete in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► the games market you have to you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► do what the other companies do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► gaming platforms you have to court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► talent and develop talent and get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► to make games for your system and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► sure that multi-platform games are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► available on your system unless your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► name is in tendo which and you have tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► of first party properties that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► apparently keep your company alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► forever despite not doing a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► courting third-party success because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► keep making less powerful hardware but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► anyway you have to do you have to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► a lot of work it's kind of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► they're doing with TV you have to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► the right people and they have to go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► the actors and the stories and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► is a lot of work to compete in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► gaming industry you can't just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► you know gave some money to Jenova Chen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► so here's one cool game and like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► build it they won't come you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► get them you have to do all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► that Sony and Microsoft do and Nintendo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► do in this market or you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► want to be like Nintendo make a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► amazing first party games that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► system sellers on their own and but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► they don't have the back catalogue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► that anyway so it's frustrating to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► because every time I see all the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► sessions WABC I'm impressed by what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► see but I can't map that to like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► TV gaming it's all even though that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► talk about it and they put a powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► GPU and the Apple TV and they say it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► platform for gaming it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► seems like a way for you to make phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► games which is fine that's the one area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► where they have a little display even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► phone games use third-party engines for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► a lot of stuff but Apple TV it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► doesn't seem to be going anywhere which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► is I don't know it's almost I wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► would just like not keep making these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► sort of half-hearted efforts and instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► just admit that Apple TV is in a gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► platform now all that said well before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► we finally this topic one thing I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► suggest is that flour which is an older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► game made by that game company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► actually a really good fit for iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► for Apple TV because it's entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► motion controlled I'm assuming it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► is in the PlayStation so even with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► Apple TV remote you don't have to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► any buttons you just tilt the remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► forward and back inside I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► haven't actually tried it with the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► TV remote but I'm saying if anything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► gonna be reasonably playable with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► terrible remote or just on a phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► something an entirely motion control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► game is and flour is fine it's cute it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► nice game if you're not really into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► games and just want something pretty to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► look at and the fun activity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► actually does build to something towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► the end if you play through the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► game I would recommend downloading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► port of flower it is actually a good fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► for all of Apple's platforms unlike so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► many other games that just don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► without a controller like Margot said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► it's all play sky and tell you how it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► all right thanks this week Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► audible and fracture we'll see you next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5321">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► ey L is s so that's Casey less and a are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► looking at the expensive Volvo yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► knew it was the thing but I'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► SUV so who cares sometimes you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5394">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► if only there is a way to get space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► yeah and how you gonna do that Marco a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► large sedan a hatchback a wagon a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► crossover a minivan it's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► ways to do that no crossovers minivan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► acceptable answer hatchback is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► crossover is not enough room in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► rolls-royce you need to make the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► vehicle 20 feet high but no the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► is you okay I was sure John I'll buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► $300,000 rolls-royce just to avoid the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► $50,000 lifted car Mercedes s-class like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► it's not like you need to make an SUV to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► have room in a car yeah have you seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► mature Anders in my car we don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► SUVs and in Casey you don't like SUVs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► either but you have one now so you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► compelled to defend the form there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► there's some modicum of that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► true without question however I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► like Aaron's car a lot I really honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► do it's like you just like nice cars but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► you know well that's true it was a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► sedan you would like it a lot too yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► and I and I have sat in a stationary at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► what the hell's are called s90 basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► her car but low and it it's it's eerie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► because it feels on the inside exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► the same until you look you know past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► the second row because obviously Erin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► cars third row but anyway in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► ways it feels the same like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► infotainment same cushiness etc etc the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► cars like 300 feet long but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► it just feels wonky to me when it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► low I think because I was exposed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► xc90 as a SUV although it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► because to kind of parlay this into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► something that's not the right we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► used to the word but whatever to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► this into something to pivot into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► the I am taking the BMW in in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► of weeks for state inspection for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► airbag recall maybe if they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► and I had to put a little coolant in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► car what unit of itself is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► remarkable but it's a person we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► to do it so I asked them so you know hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► just go ahead and make sure this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► isn't about to explode which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► they're going to find a reason why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► about to explode and this will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► another five thousand dollar bill well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► anyway I bring all this stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► the sales dude called me and said oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► see you're bringing your car in in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► yes I am would you is there something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► could do to put you in a new BMW to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► which I just laughed and laughed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► laughed and laughed someone said to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► I've put $15,000 in this car in five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► years there's no freaking way I'm buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► another BMW he probably did believe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► as much as we do yeah I'm not buying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► BMW no you're gonna buy something faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► but worse probably actually to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► that is an extremely accurate assessment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► if I end up with the Golf R because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► everything that you've said that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► really wanting is like faster but worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► you know correct at least that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► actually buy like the Quadrifoglio or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► whatever it was maybe that one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► might that might overall be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► depending on the transmission severity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► but yeah but you won't you will net you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► would actually buy that one correct so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► still continue to read all sorts of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► stories about reliability for for tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► magazines and they usually get the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► ones so I would yeah although I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► Marcos most recent mispronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► because it contains fugly in it it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► beautiful car it's a beautiful car I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► you are wrong John you are wrong is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► given name John or Jonathan it's John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► isn't it mmm another car sorry it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► like it seems like a great car it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► like it's unreliable and I do not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► no I mean first of all you can tell it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► John instead of Jonathan because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► an H and he's Italian there's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► somebody out there who spells Jonathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► with the H but I'm sure it's a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► rare and second of all there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► there's no Italian Jonathan's they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► all John's that's true and then second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► of all a third of all whatever a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► of up to now D I would say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► Quadrifoglio is probably significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► I would say it is more attractive I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► considerably more attractive so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► product communications person from Alfa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► Romeo North America wrote me today we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► all have a God that sounded extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► self reflecting what a title my product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► communications found for me of American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► what really so they they talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► about products it's like I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► communicate with you about products this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► is not where I wanted this to go and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► recognize that this is exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► desire I remember a title it's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► what I did but anyway what do I call him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► a product communication specialist or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► whatever I already forgot to email yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► so anyway so I've been bothering him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► constantly because the the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► actually have the car don't want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► but can't believe they're not flying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► to Europe to try the stick and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► way the check points out that you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► ask them for the SUV since that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► you like because they make Oh kindly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► kiss the widest part of my your into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► might seem weird when it's down so low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► might seem weird John I hate you so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► you know what about well actually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► know what's worse did I have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► conversation with you guys on the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► don't think I did the worst part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► is that I've decided my short list for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► my next car obviously go far would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► there are two other options I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► you to guess either one of you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► those other two options a Honda Accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► no no don't look at it it's too slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► it's too slow no the other option is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► going to be the that that Cadillac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► rectangle thing no good guess but no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► no no it's automatic only okay all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► so all three of these cars all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► these cars I can get with a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► all right so Golf R it's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► the Jeep Grand Cherokee whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► that you reviewed can't care that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► the hell's I don't know not an Audi I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► gonna say since you have SUV envy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► there aren't that many SUVs available at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► the stick I'm gonna guess maybe a Jeep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► Wrangler because those I think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► available with stick that is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► three cars yeah that is me I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► kidding by the way I am not kidding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► is my I am abandoning all pretense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► I am abandoning yet all thoughts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► speed and comfort and screw it I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► gonna I'm just gonna go the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► direction when I get a golf cart what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► are you doing John all kidding aside as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► much as I love to beat up on you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► have you ever been either of you in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► Jeep Wrangler that does that has the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► off or down and and does not have doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► on it I understand that's why that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► I said a golf cart it's fun it's fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► ride a golf cart do right and does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► have doors on it that's the key the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► that you can just take the doors right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► off is amazing yeah it's great fun you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► know I there has never been a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► I've been sitting in a car and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5818">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► you know this car needs fewer doors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► you know when I used to work at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► parks department had a lot of vehicles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► that were basically this they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► old trucks or what is it the brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► Cushman or whatever like thing being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► four by fours that you basically sit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► kind of it's fun but it's not that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► car and if I was Eve you live anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► with whether that's there's no go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► need if you don't you just you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► tempting death like why not want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► a super bike yeah yeah I'll just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► myself a what's what's the ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► one that they always turbocharged how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► god I'm drawing a blank now Hayabusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► there it is I'll just get a Hayabusa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► I'll be fine so okay so you got one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► the three well two of the three actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► cuz I gave you the Golf R oh man so John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► available in the stick mw2 series it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► not a BMW yeah I it should be it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► be the two series but it's not mmm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► need I need more stability makes the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► for us with sticks there it is there it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► is because you enjoyed your renting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► the silver one well I did although the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► MMI which is their knockoff I drive used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► to be abysmally bad not as bad as a Jeep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► but really bad but that being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► they supposedly have a new one and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► can get the a four with a stick and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► has all the fancy like you know digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► dash that I'm sure John hates and it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► it has car play and I don't hate digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► dashes oh you mean like you mean the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► instrument cluster in front of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► correct correct I don't hate that no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► surprised well anyway so it has all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► jazz see but see I I think I will still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► I will still be correct that you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► you'll waiting will be faster but worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► although actually if you get out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► might not be faster it will not be fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► well probably not it depends on how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► well I can drive my car to me like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► my experience without ease and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► at them and test driving them and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► you know occasional friends that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► them and stuff it just seems like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► like BMW but everything looks a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► bit better and works a little bit worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5938">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► I my limited experience with Audi I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► would agree with that wholeheartedly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► outside of them looked pretty good on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► some of them oh yes they're styling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► looks a little better yeah yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► and I think that's a fair assessment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► Vizio these interior styling people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► usually like to others that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► talking about I think either way in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► yeah I think they're they're a safer bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► visually should try try the s8 and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► it and you don't cannot the si at the s4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► yeah how do you makes very few sticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► dealership you should also test drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► the Civic type-r which I know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► gonna get cuz it looks like a matchbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► car but you just try it anyway I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► love to actually you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► everything you just said is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► correct and I would I would definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► give the new Accord a shot in all snark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► and jokes aside as much as I love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► give you a hard time about your love of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► Accords I am really impressed by just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► paper having never seen one in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► having never driven one I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► impressed by the new Accord and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5998">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► Honda's finally making smart choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► which by that I mean choices that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► KC happy they're making smart choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► with the new Accord making it available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► with the big motor with a stick etc etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► the review that I shared with you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► don't remember where it was so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► gonna put it in the show notes that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► I think it might have been it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► terribly flattering but I still stand by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► this is the first time I've looked at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► accord and thought you know what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► a possibility and for everyone saying s3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► chat those are not available with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► stick in the US unless I'm mistaken in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► either way I'm not really sure what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► gaining over a Golf R I need to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► myself with a golf thing a Golf R 93 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► Series is you know really minimal gains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► but lots of price increases over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► high-end golf series like it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► because it's just it's just a luxury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► golf that's all it is and it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► I don't feel like you're getting what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► you're paying for necessarily with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► one aren't you getting a jury generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► that's better than all these cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► you've described I want something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► can hypothetically put two children in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► you have this giant school bus for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► kids oh you're such a jerk the vehicle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► neighbor kids it for you for your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► just get it use Cayman and it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► than all the cars you've listed yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► although talk about maintenance I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► how much is it Cayman seriously could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► worth it to BMW I mean before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► turbocharged it the one that do on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► jury got that's the generation you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► I know exactly what you're thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► what what years that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► Porsche no no just go back through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► Gerry's timeline and see when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► something before they before they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► the name to 718 and okay here you go so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► coincidentally just as you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► that model name clarification how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► quickly can you look things up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► arbitrator fairly quickly is it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► dedicated hardware key on your keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► there's immediately launches auto trader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► and I feel like if I was ever to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► give a serious look at a Porsche Porsche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► however it's not my apology if I were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► ever give a serious look at that brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► it would take me like three weeks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► research to just figure out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► hell I'm looking at because there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► many little name variations then add or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► subtract 30 grand and wait wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► what is that and that's is it that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► better what does that mean and yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► with the Cayman at this generation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► even the one with the slow it the cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► only the slow engine is still a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► car yeah like there's no there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► you know and it's just a question of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► much do you want to get ripped off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► the fancy-schmancy one and in fact it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► accidentally got the one with carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► ceramic brakes because they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► in daily use and you're not gonna be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► a race track and that would be a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRgE_5o/6163">TS</a>]