The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► check it off it's like one of those [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► confusing titles where people will [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► listen to the whole episode and then [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► glance back at the title before I like [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► it it's always I'm like what was that [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► about anything right it's a great time I [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► didn't love this title when you first [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► said it but you're the two of you are [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► convincing me that there's this thing's [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► got legs just like my icon there's death [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► to that title Depp the flavor and spice [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► it's just a good practice that's not but [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► not a lot of levels of depth mapping [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► yourself so as always we start with [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► follow up and listen to Richard Buxton [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► wrote in to say that traits people [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► generally like face ID and this was [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► something I hadn't considered and I and [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► I really liked this email Richard wrote [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► I wanted to provide some feedback on the [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► face ID concept and perhaps shed light [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► on an entirely different group of phone [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► users I'm a trades person or more [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► specifically an electrician and touch ID [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► sucks as a consequence of manual work [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► with rough materials all day long my [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► fingertips constantly gets scratched and [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► worn the result is that touch ID on [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► either a six or seven plus constantly [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► fails I have perhaps a ten percent [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► success rate and I am therefore forced [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► to type my password in a lot and thus [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► Richard rate you know had written that [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► he was he is really really really [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► excited about face ID and that makes [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► perfect sense but it was something I [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► hadn't really considered you know the [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► obvious thought of like oh people who [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► don't have I don't know hands or perhaps [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► you know don't have fingers that are [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► dexterous enough to be placed on a [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► little fingerprint sensor that all you [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► know is semi obvious but I didn't even [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► think of somebody that has potentially [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► ten working digits but but they're [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► packed to smithereens because of the [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► line of work that they're in so I [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► thought that was a release we'll follow [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► up yeah also to think about people who [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► have weather which is the first thing [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► that comes to my mind when thinking [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► about face ID is the large portion of [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► the year that many people don't want to [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► take their hands out of their gloves or [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► mittens or whatever to use their phone [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► that's why they have all the special [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► gloves with the touch sensors on them [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► but then sometimes they only work for a [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► short period of time or sometimes it can [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► be too cold for them to even work and to [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► not have to deal with that to be able to [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► basically say if I got gloves that are [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► dexterous enough to handle my phone I [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► don't have to worry that [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► the phone can't touch my fingerprints in [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► any way even if my fingerprints are [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► pristine I think it was pointed in my [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► face and they will unlock and then of [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► course you still have the problem of how [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► do you touch the screen but I think [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► that's you know again that's where those [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► gloves come in where at least you can do [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► touch and scroll things but as far as [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► I'm aware there are no gloves that [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► transfer your fingerprint through the [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► through their warmth to the touch ID [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► sensor these biological systems you kind [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► of have to think like you know how many [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► people does this exclude and you know [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► and for the most part like we you know [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► that our mainstream tech commentators [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► and and media reviewers and everything [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► we usually are not very aware of the [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► kinds of people or groups or situations [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► that this that anything you know could [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► rule out in a lot of edge cases and like [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► it's it's nightly touch ID provides a [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► fairly simple interaction but if you for [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► some reason can't do that very often [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► that's gonna be a major problem there's [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► no real out for you face idea I think is [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► a little bit more flexible like they [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► they had the thing you know first of all [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► I think more people can probably show [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► their face and then but not everybody of [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► course but you know but more people can [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► I think then can take out their finger [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► all the time and there's the wonderful [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► because accessibility option where you [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► can turn off the looking at it attention [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► detection so in case people you know [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► can't use their eyes that way then you [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► know they don't have to be directly [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► looking at the screen for it to unlock [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► you know so like there's there's that [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► kind of accommodation and you're never [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► going to find a system with this that [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► accommodates everybody but it does seem [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► like face ID probably accommodates more [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► situations than touch ID did one of you [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► like to tell me about why the [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► multitasking gesture feels different on [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► springboard this is me that I'm the one [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► who last week described how I I couldn't [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► bring up the multitasking switcher [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► reliably from springboard versus doing [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► it from an in applications so much so [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► that I initially thought it wasn't even [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► possible to bring up the Moses and [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► Twitter from springboard and I pretty [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► quickly figured out why after the show [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► and back and looked at it more closely [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► and it has to do with something that we [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► talked about which is animations on when [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► you do the multitasking gesture on us [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► that contains an application as you [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► start to do the swipe up thing whether [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► you're gonna like take a hard ride and [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► go multitasking or go up in an angle and [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► go to multitasking or go straighter up [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► and go to the homescreen no matter what [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► one of those things you're doing as [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► you're doing the gesture the application [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► that was in the foreground starts to [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► like shrink and move upward like it [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► doesn't follow your finger exactly but [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► it reacts to what your finger is doing [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► in a reasonably linear way I'm swiping [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► up at the far farther up I go the more [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► shrinky the front thing gets and you [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► know if I flick to the right I see the [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► little mostly fasten thing or whatever [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► um if you do it on springboard the [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► screen reacts to you're scrolling upward [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► from the bottom like it doesn't just sit [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► there and not move at all it does sort [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► of start to shrink and move a little bit [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► but then it stops shrinking and moving [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► and it's kind of inert for a period of [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► time if you successfully complete the [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► gesture the multitasking switcher [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► appears if you don't successfully [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► complete it it snaps back to where it [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► was and that discontinuity like the fact [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► that there was a different relationship [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► between what my finger was doing what [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► was on the screen was apparently enough [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► to make me think it wasn't possible [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► initially and then fail at it away [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► higher percentage of the time then on [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► other screens so what I've been trying [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► to do is break that connection which is [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► hard for me because I'm a visual person [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► and I you know like that when things are [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► connected in that way it makes sense to [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► me when they're not connected it feels [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► like things are broken but to say look [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► the screen is not gonna react the same [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► way in springboard just do the gesture [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► right just do your little J turn do your [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► little angle swipe do whatever it is you [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► have to do to make N and have faith that [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► even though the screen stops reaction to [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► your sliding finger just keep sliding it [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► just just keep sliding swipe me just [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► keep swiping and have some confidence [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► now I still am less successful and it [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► could be that I need some kind of [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► feedback to match up with my like yeah [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► you know yeah your thumbs making a right [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► turn yeah it's gonna happen for you see [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► how the little thing is moving to the [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► right a little bit like I don't know you [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► know what the disconnect is there but I [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► did [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► that I'm not the only one a lot of [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► people did tweet at me and tell me they [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► some people also thought it wasn't [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► possible from springboard until they [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► heard the program some people knew it [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► was possible but have much more [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► difficulty doing it and then of course [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► there are all the people who are the [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► equivalent of taptic like wizards like I [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► had no problem at a single time I just [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► exact 45-degree line with my thumb it [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► happens every single time so whatever [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► everyone has difficult in ass [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► accessibility issue everyone has [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► different difficult different abilities [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► to swipe but I think the difficulty on [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► spring work actually is explicable by [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► the by the difference in animation [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► because that is the only difference as [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► far as I can tell like it's still like [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► the same gesture works in both places [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► the only difference is what happens on [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► your screen and if you have an [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► expectation of something that's going to [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► happen on your screen that it doesn't it [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► can cause you to to pause to rethink to [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► move your finger differently to stop [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► moving and all those things will mess up [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► your gesture so I'll keep practicing on [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► my wife's thumb in the meantime Apple [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► should consider doing something about [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► that J because I don't see any reason [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► why springboard can't have the same [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► animation my goal in the multitasking [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► obviously you're never going to go from [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► springboard to springboard so the only [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► animation that has to initiate is the [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► one that brings to the multitasking [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► switcher and if you bail on the gesture [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► yeah it'll snap back to where it's plus [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► but I don't see why it doesn't do [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► doesn't follow your thumb the full way [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► through the gesture to give you the [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► confidence to know that it's gonna [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► happen for you the multitasking screen [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► is gonna come up yeah it is weird I've [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► noticed that as well that it's super [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► peculiar speaking of things that I think [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► you said John last episode I got this [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► phone for $50 and it's fine tell me more [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► about that's still funny that was just [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► me describing my sister getting her [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► phone and how I wasn't able to answer [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► get an iPhone and you know it occurred [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► to me that would be good slogan for [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► Android and some people took that and [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► ran with it [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► but I did want to offer some [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► clarification because some people [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► thought it was like they were putting [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► down Android that is you know the [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► pejorative like oh this $50 phone bought [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► a piece of crap right my main point was [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► the opposite that the Android phone you [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► can can you can get for $50 is fine [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► right and if you're not as I said a [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► phone enthusiast or like an Apple [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► enthusiast or a gadget head or someone [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► who appreciates the ways in which iOS [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► differs from Android the supposed [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► superiority of iOS or Apple hardware [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► anything like that does not even come [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► close to overcoming the price difference [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► right so I got this one $40 and it's [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► fine sounds like you know like Apple [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► people you end up but really if Apple's [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► problem in that if the $50 phone is fine [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► Apple has a problem there and the second [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► aspect is people say well I don't I do [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► appreciate those differences I just you [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► know I do like high-tech gadgets I just [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► don't like iOS or I like Android phones [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► better or you know whatever those are [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► the people who are shopping for the [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► high-end fancy Android phones and those [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► people are insulted that we thought they [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► said if you're a gadget nerd obviously [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► you're gonna like iOS and if you're nan [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► gadget nerd then Android is fine for you [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► and that wasn't my intention I can [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► understand where you got that impression [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► but yeah of course if you don't like iOS [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► at all but also like high-tech fancy [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► phones yeah you're also gonna shop for [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► an Android but you're not gonna pay $50 [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► for it is what I'm getting out there [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► like you're gonna actually pay the big [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► money for the fanciest highest and [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► Android phone and that phone is not [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► going to cost you $50 so you are [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► excluded from this guy I got this one [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► for the LSM it's fine the only thing I [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► can say for those people is you do have [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► to make do with a slower CPU sorry about [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► but that if you like Android and the [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► control it offers and all the various [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► features that Andros has that that iOS [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► doesn't like a configurable set of [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► widgets on your lockscreen and all that [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► good stuff [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► then yeah go for it but yeah my main [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► point is I got this one $50 and it's [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► fine sounds insulting if you're an Apple [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► snob but really it constitutes a semi [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► real problem for Apple because the fifty [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► dollar phone is fine why the hell are we [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► all paying $1200 for an iPhone 10 yep [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► Duncan Stevenson price writes in [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► regarding Apple Care Plus did you guys [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► know that you can get a pro-rata refund [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► on the plan if you change your iPhone [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► after one year this changes the math [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► this individual wrote maths that's [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► incorrect [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► this changes the math a little though [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► admittedly not the overall thrust of [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► your argument against buying it [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► I had no idea that that was possible and [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► and I don't recall how they said that [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► you go about doing that because I think [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► they did include it in their email but [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► apparently there's a way to get a bit of [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► a refund on your Apple Care Plus I don't [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► get a phone every year so I didn't know [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► about this at all but - you - who do get [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► a phone every you should try that if you [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► know Casey you bought the Apple care [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► this time next time you go to get a [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► phone say Duncan told you you're [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► supposed to get some of the money back [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► for Apple care and see what they do well [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► I did not get AppleCare this time but I [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► know you did no no no I got a while I [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► did get AppleCare it's a $50 leather [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► case remind me of this when I still [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► shadow my phone that's right Stephen [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► Harrison writes you mentioned that it is [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► not possible to remove individual keys [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► on the new keyboards well I just had a [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► faulty B key on my macbook pro and the [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► first thing they did the Genius Bar was [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► take it out back that sounds awkward and [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► removed the offending geek app to check [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► for dust etc underneath from what I [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► could gather they have a special device [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► or machine for removing keys so it's not [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► something one could do at home but it's [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► possible in the end I still had a new [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► top case with the accompanying touch pad [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► our trackpad touch bar and battery etc [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► there's been a lot of talk about whether [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► or not you can remove individual keys in [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► a non-destructive way and Stephen [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► certainly thinks that it's possible [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► although he ended up going the destroy [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► they ended up going the destructive [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► route in his behalf anyway so what we [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► heard from geniuses in a past feedback [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► is yeah of course you can get the key [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► caps off right but that the process of [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► removing them has such a high chance of [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► bending or breaking one of the very very [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► tiny very delicate plastic pins that [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► holds these things together that the [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► geniuses you wrote to us that basically [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► I've never seen anyone pull it off [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► successfully or the success rate is so [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► low that it's not even worth trying so I [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► don't doubt that they still try to do it [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► but I wonder like why did this person [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► get a new keyboard possibly because they [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► got the key cap off and they thought [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► they had done it successfully and they [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► tried to put it back on and realize [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► they'd accidentally bent one of the [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► little tiny pins and it's like well [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► that's it game over because there's no [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► repairing a bent pin there's no [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► repairing a broken pen if you don't get [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► it off cleanly and get it back on [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► cleanly then its whole new top case with [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► just one of the many reasons that this [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► keyboard is not friendly to repair [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► yeah it seems like the the rate at which [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► they're able to properly rescue it with [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► some kind of replacement in store or [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► some kind of like you know not replacing [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► the entire top case the the the number [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► of problems that are solved that way [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► seems significantly smaller than the [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► number that require a whole top case [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► replacement anyway so what however the [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► multiple parts inside the keys work out [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► however the serviceability works out the [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► reality is this is a incredibly service [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► unfriendly problem I also you know on [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► this topic there's been some number of [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► good discussions about this on connected [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► with Stephen Hackett and because he was [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► a genius back in the day and he you know [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► he he mentioned that like the idea of [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► one bad key requiring the replacement of [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► the entire top case of the computer and [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► the entire top case being a very [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► expensive repair because the entire [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► computer is basically built under it so [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► you have to like basically take the [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► entire computer apart in order to [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► replace that and put it back together he [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► mentioned that this is actually not new [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► to this current generation of MacBook [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► Pros this started with the unibody back [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► what was at 2011 that the unibody [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► started 2010 something like that and [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► ever since the unibody MacBook Pros [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► you've had to replace the entire top [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► case and it's been a lot of work if the [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► keyboard breaks in certain ways the main [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► difference with the new ones is that not [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► only are the keys more likely to break [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► in a way that requires top case [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► replacement into the older keys you had [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► a better chance of servicing individual [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► key caps but also as we know the new [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► ones have such an incredibly high key [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► failure rate with whatever-it-is specks [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► of dust things bending whatever the [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► problem ends up being with these we know [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► that they are failing way more often [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► than they used to so the the whole top [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► case being required thing is not new but [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► the rate of failure and how severe the [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► failures are now does seem very new and [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► even the old keyboards with the scissor [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► switches I've manually tried to repair [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► many of those and they have a lesser [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► version of the same problem removing the [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► key caps from an older or scissor switch [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► keyboard is possible but there is some [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► fairly high chance that you will bend or [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► break one of the little pin [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► I think I think mostly I bent them I [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► don't think know if I ever really broke [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► one off but I definitely bent them in my [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► attempts to repair things both on the [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► the laptop keyboards and on these same [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► scissors which is that are in the like [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► extended aluminum keyboard and stuff [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► it's pretty easy to mangle the tiny semi [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► clear pieces of plastic in there because [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► it's basically like a bunch of little [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► plastic Hindi mechanisms with these [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► little little feet little legs little [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► cylindrical sticks that snap into these [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► little C shaped clamps on the key cap or [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► at least with a scissors it was I [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► imagine it's similar with the with the [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► new butterfly ones and that's just [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► that's just a really difficult thing to [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► to work with you kind of have to do a [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► lot of them blind where you just have to [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► get the pieces of line correctly put the [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► cap on and then just press down and hope [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► everything snaps in all at once it's not [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► not particularly friendly to repair it [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► never hasn't been it just seems like [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► these new ones are even smaller and the [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► little leggy things are even finer you [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► can find some good like sort of macro [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► photography of it online if you search [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► but it's not something that I would want [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► to repair and I'm sure there are lots of [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► sort of gung-ho geniuses who are like [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► I'm gonna do it this is gonna be the [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► time I'm gonna get the key cap off and I [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► never get it back on and everything's [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► gonna work until the next speck of dust [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► but you know they know that if they if [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► they blow it [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► 475 dollars or whatever it is yeah [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► that's rough I see the notes here about [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► the OLED display but I have a feeling [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► that somebody's trying to tell a story [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► with them so rather than flub my way [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► through it and whoever I'm assuming this [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► is John do you want to talk about this I [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► think we touched on this in many past [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► shows in terms of burn in on the old [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► LEDs and everything and things Apple [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► might be doing that acknowledge the fact [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► that has burned them whether it be the [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► the 30-second timeout on the thing which [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► by the way some people say is not new [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► and just a bug or happened with non [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► iPhone 10 so who knows that's still [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► mysterious but this the the burnin of [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► the OLED is communicated in various [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► Apple tech notes it's also communicated [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► in iOS itself if you look at the auto [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► brightness setting on a non iPhone 10 it [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► says auto brightness on and often [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► there's a little descriptive text [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► underneath it says turning off auto [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► brightness way affect the battery life [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► right so that was the old message like [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► hey if you don't let the phone sense how [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► much life there is in the room and doom [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► itself if you just set it keep a [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► brightness and set it that way all the [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► time even in the pitch dark room it may [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► affect battery life we're just [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► may lessen your battery life right the [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► new thing if you have an iPhone 10 on [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► that very same switch says turning off [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► auto brightness may affect battery life [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► and long-term display performance so [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► they added some words to that and what [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► they mean by long-term display [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► performance is that if you turn off auto [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► brightness crank it to max brightness [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► and don't let it dim itself even in a [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► dark room you're probably gonna get [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► burnin sooner than if you didn't do that [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► because one of the tools like you know [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► if you read the Apple Doc's they in [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► typical sort of marketing PR speak they [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► say the Apple display and iPhone 10 and [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► whatever blah blah blah have been [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► engineered to reduce burnin and there [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► are many aspects to being engineered to [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► reduce burnin one of those aspects is [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► our software will try to prevent burnin [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► by trying to be nice to your screen will [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► adjust the brightness down so it's not a [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► max brightness in a dark room well dim [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► as soon as we possibly can [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► we'll try to pay attention to whether [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► you're looking at the screen so we know [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► when we can dim and also the way the [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► screen is built to be resistant to burn [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► and whatever that involves so it's it's [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► the whole package it's not just [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► hardware's not just software it's [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► everything and part of that is you [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► taking you know some responsibility in [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► your own hands if you tweak the settings [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► if you if you put the brightness to max [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► turn off auto brightness and probably [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► also turn off true tone and put your [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► sleep your display sleep time around 5 [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► minutes you are probably gonna get burn [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► in sooner and more severely than someone [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► who leaves it in the default setting so [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► welcome to my world of plasma television [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► ownership yeah this is probably my only [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► long-term concern about the iPhone 10 [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► and using all that screens in general on [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► the iPhone which you know this is not [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► gonna be the first phone to do this I [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► mean sorry the only phone to do this [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► because we really don't know what they [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► mean by critical word here long term if [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► you actually use your phone with the [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► screen on a lot because if you're using [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► it the screen is going to be on a lot [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► and many parts of iOS are always in the [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► same place like status bar items and the [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► home indicator and stuff when they say [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► long term sure to refer to OLED problems [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► well how long what are we talking here [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► are we talking a few months are we [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► talking a year a few years you know cuz [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► that like I feel like whatever the [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► number actually is there makes a great [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► deal of difference on to what we should [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► do and how big those problems are you [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► know if it if it turns out that OLED [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► screened iPhones are going to have like [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► really annoying screen flaws eight [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► months into ownership that's gonna be a [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► really big problem even if they're gonna [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► have really annoying flaws after two [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► years of ownership that's gonna really [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► impact the used market so either way [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► like if this is at all like likely to [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► have serious display flaws during the [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► useful lifetime of the product that's [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► gonna be a big problem down the road and [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► I really hope it's not that bad I think [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► it will probably be okay just because [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► Apple seemed so aware of this issue and [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► Apple held off on OS for such a long [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► time and also the whole rest of the [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► industry meaning Android is that all it [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► screens for so long that I feel like [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► it's it's not a it shouldn't be a [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► mystery Apple is not the first you know [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► companies putting all it in its phone so [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► we should have data from all the many [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► many years of OLED Android phones of [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► what their performance characteristics [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► are like and how bad burnin is and then [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► Apple of course waiting until it gets [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► just the right display hopefully has one [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► that is better in all ways that they can [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► make it better including burnin so my [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► advice to people is to not be as [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► obsessed about this as I am with my [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► closet Intellivision and just you know [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► use sensible settings maybe just take [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► the defaults if you don't know what [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► sensible settings are leave [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► auto-brightness on don't crank your [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► brightness to max if you can help it [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► let your display go to sleep but in [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► general just use your phone because I my [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► prediction is that image retention will [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► not be a problem on the average lights [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► lifetime of a newly bought iPhone 10 [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► because I would imagine the average [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► lifetime a newly bought iPhone 10 is [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► probably like two points something years [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► right because if you buy the fancy [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► iPhone 10 probably you're gonna want to [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► buy a new one or within at least two [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► years and maybe there's some long-tailed [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► people who try to keep them for much [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► longer right because it's an expensive [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► phone it may be more of a problem when [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► OLED travels down the line to the [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► cheaper phones that tend to be kept [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► longer and Marco's right about the used [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► market but you know I don't know how [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► much people buy their phones [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► contingent on the idea of being able to [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► sell them for you haven't have them [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► having high resale value I'm not sure [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► how common that is versus trade-ins [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► which that's the good thing about trade [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► ins is you're not getting a big great [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► deal on trade ins anyway but I don't [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► think Apple's gonna give you guff about [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► trading in your phone for their like [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► update program if you've got image [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► retention because like look it's your [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► damn phone Apple that's not my fault it [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► is every time you take my phone and give [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► me a pittance for it so I'm I'm not that [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► concerned also when I look at my plasma [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► television that is how I don't know how [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► old it is but it's longer there's older [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► than two years old and plasmas are just [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► notorious for image retention I don't [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► know what the oled characteristics of [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► remnant retention are but i'm pretty [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► convinced that the characteristics are [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► plasma or the are that if you are [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► patient enough you could your destiny [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► HUD will go away in a year right I don't [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► know if that helps the resale market or [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► makes people feel better but you know [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► I'm actually kind of optimistic about [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► this having been in the burnin wars for [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► many many years and finally having seen [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► so many people in real life you use [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► absolutely shattered cell phones like [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► smartphones just completely destroyed [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► like not just little spiderweb or a [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► crack here or there but like whole giant [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► glass chips missing circuit boards [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► exposed like one step short of sparks [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► flying from the phone as they use it I [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► have a hard time believing that the [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► average person will be thwarted from [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► using their phone because it has image [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► retention honey because that's not even [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► a physical defect like tactile disa and [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► defect like they can feel that's just [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► like the home indicator always looking [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► like it's on the screen but whatever so [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► I think it'll be okay but if you're a [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► super paranoid nerd about it you know [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► take a look at your phone in a year or [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► two and I don't know Marco will put a [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► free app on the App Store that puts a [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► checkerboard pattern on your screen that [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► turns it into grey yeah I really hope [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► that this is a non-issue but like it my [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► concern is you know so they set it at [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► the 30 second by default screens sleep [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► which I hate and thank God I turned it [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► off my concern is if I since I raised [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► that to five minutes if my if I get bad [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► image retention on my screen in six [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► months are they [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► you slash all the crazy Apple defenders [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► on Twitter going to say well I was doing [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► it wrong I was using this option that I [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► shouldn't have been using like is that [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► gonna be my fault [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► because I changed this annoying setting [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► back to where it was on all LCD phones [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► before that it said may affect battery [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► life and long-term display performance [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► Marco can't you read you know it does [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► say that and yeah that will contribute [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► to it but like that I don't think [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► there's any consequences like they're [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► not going to say you know you like if [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► you bring it in with image retention I'm [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► not sure what their their deal with it [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► but same thing with the iMac like if you [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► just let your iMac screen dim more often [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► or move your windows around more often [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► maybe you'd have less image retention [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► but it still just replaces green for you [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► right I wonder if there is it's kind of [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► like if you use launch control on us on [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► a sports car there's there's there's [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► always like it's always like [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► conventional wisdom that like there's a [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► counter for that right and like if you [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► burn out the engine like they'll check [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► that counter or you do any launch [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► controls like they won't serve as your [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► car like is it like a counter on the [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► iPhone of like how many times a day that [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► I've let it reach that's like five max [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► brightness for five minutes [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► sorry sir we can't replace this panel [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► you change this one setting too much [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► it's been in the bathroom red flag John [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► red flag it was actually a tag that [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► wasn't it wasn't the proper tag we are [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► sponsored this week by fracture who [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► prints photos directly onto glass visit [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► fracture dot me and get 50% off your [TS]

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00:25:56 ◼   ► prints photos on glass this is an [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► amazing looking print you can hang it on [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► the wall you can prop it up on a desk [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► you can give them as gifts you can keep [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► them in your own house or office they [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► look great they get tons of compliments [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► I have them all over my house all over [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► my office I have photos I've gotten my [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► app icons printed and little square ones [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► and hanging like a little trophy app [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► icon wall up above in my office here [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► we've given lots of them as gifts to [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► family members and friends things like [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► if you have you know a cute picture of [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► your kid or pet you can give them to [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► other people who might appreciate that [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► and your family and friends they make [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► wonderful wonderful decorations for your [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► home or gifts and the photos really look [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► great the colors really pop the contrast [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► is really perfect [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► and it really just goes edge to edge [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► with the coupe with the photo print it [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► looks clean and sleek and modern without [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► really needing any other ornamentation [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► you don't need like a big frame around [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► it or anything else like that so it's [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► incredibly practical it's also [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► incredibly economical you don't have to [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► buy a frame or get it framed fractures [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► are just great [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► ordering is simple and fracture prints [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► come ready to display right out of the [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► box they even include the wall hanger if [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► you need it and they are a green company [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► operating a carbon-neutral factory right [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► here in Gainesville Florida from us [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► source materials so you can feel good [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► about it but fracture wants you to know [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► that around the holiday season [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► they really get booked up quickly and in [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► the holiday season they get tons and [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► tons of orders because they make such [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► great gifts so if you're gonna point if [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► you're gonna order fracture prints for [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► out the holiday season get your orders [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► in now today not next week get them in [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► today just so you can make sure you get [TS]

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00:27:32 ◼   ► fracks your dot me and get 15% off your [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► first order with code ATP 17 thank you [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► so much to fracture for sponsoring our [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► show anyway at least a couple people [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► wrote in and were confused / perturbed [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► that we didn't really talk about the [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► iPhone 10 camera last week when we were [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► going over our impressions that's a fair [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► criticism and I don't have all that much [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► to say surprisingly I do really really [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► like portrait mode until Joe Steele [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► corrects me and shows me all the ways in [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► which portrait mode is terrible but my [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► eyes are not discerning enough to be [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► able to see in a lot of cases all the [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► places that portrait mode is just [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► falling on its face and and portrait [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► mode is where they get the fake boat [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► bouquet whatever however you pronounce [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► it the background blur and the depth of [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► field tricks is one of those words like [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► niche or niche where no matter how you [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► pronounce it everyone's gonna tell you [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► what you're wrong yeah so if I remember [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► I'll see if I can dig up some links for [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► the for the show notes but it followed [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► Joe Steele on Twitter he's funny and [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► he's he's good but anyways he has gone [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► through some of the pictures I've taken [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► and noted all the places that portrait [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► mode has been not as good [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► and it's funny because some of the [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► things that he's noted are extremely [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► obvious in retrospect but in the heat of [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► the moment I just don't notice them like [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► I think I had tweeted a picture of a cup [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► of Diet Coke at McDonald's to friend of [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► the show Alex Cox and half of the straw [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► was missing and I didn't even notice it [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► pointed it out like again it's super [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► obvious that I should have noticed I [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► just didn't and maybe it's because I'm [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► just predisposed to like this cuz this [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► is the first time I've had this in a [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► human-sized phone but uh but I really do [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► like portrait mode and I think it's [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► pretty cool it just has a lot of room to [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► improve but I don't know Marco what do [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► you think about the camera so I I had a [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► hard time evaluating the camera in any [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► kind of useful way to anybody else [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► because I didn't have the duels through [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► the dual lens camera from the 7 plus [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► bill I didn't I didn't do plus phones [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► before but my impressions of it with [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► that giant disclaimer you know aside [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► I love the regular cameras on this the [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► regular wide and the regular you know [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► quote telephoto which is not a telephoto [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► but I'll take it because it's it's like [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► a 45 millimeter ish equivalent something [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► like that so I very much enjoy that [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► focal length and and so I've really [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► enjoyed the camera using its regular [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► modes I have played a little bit with [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► portrait mode and portrait lighting and [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► have managed so far to take zero [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► acceptable pictures with it in addition [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► when I've seen other people's pictures [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► using these modes I have seen I'm pretty [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► sure 0 of them that I considered you [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► know good without without obvious [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► weirdness or flaws maybe it's because I [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► have a lot of experience shooting [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► pictures with big cameras and big glass [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► with proper background blur with shout [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► at the field but these the pictures from [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► portrait mode and not even getting into [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► portrait lighting which I think portrait [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► lighting is basically the same thing but [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► with some weird effects apply to the [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► same data that sometimes work but [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► usually don't portrait mode itself it [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► just always looks really bizarre to me [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► it never fools me into thinking that [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► this was taken with a shallow depth of [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► field and a lot of glass ideally it [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► shouldn't be perfect every time but it [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► should be able to provide that illusion [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► much of the time and to me it just [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► doesn't and they [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► maybe I'm just being too picky or too [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► observant or you know nitpicking on the [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► details but the problem with me you know [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► III basically have to two critical [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► problems with it [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► number one is obviously the depth map [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► that it captures just simply is not [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► granular enough it is not [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► high-resolution enough and you can see [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► they've actually been a couple of apps [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► one of them is called focus FOCS [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► this is really cool like 3d you can kind [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► of like it kind of like shows you the [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► picture in the 3d rendering as the depth [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► map and you can kind of turn it and you [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► can see like the different layers that [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► are captured in the depth map it's [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► really cool to see but you you can see [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► from these deaf math viewing apps that [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► the resolution of the depth data is not [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► very high it's not very granular it's [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► it's pretty coarse there's not that many [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► levels and there's and it's not doing [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► per pixel depth mapping so that's why [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► you can have like if somebody has like a [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► hair sticking out of their head that [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► hair will be blurred away in this effect [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► whereas on a real camera that hair if [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► the rest of her hair was InFocus that [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► hair being focused to and also in [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► Infinity starts like at the back of the [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► people's head like that only does it not [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► have a lot of levels but it uses up all [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► the levels on the stuff that's close to [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► you so it's like nose cheek ear back of [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► the head and that everything else is one [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► depth which is behind like the farthest [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► depth so when you do the 3d 3d thing and [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► you rotate it it looks like everyone's [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► head is embedded in a wall and that wall [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► is like here are the levels close closer [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► close nose and then everything else is [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► basically either infinity or whatever [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► that and so when they blur the [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► background they're blurring everything [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► that's beyond their last level of depth [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► resolution as if it's equidistant and [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► and it's not like the tree that's ten [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► feet from you is too different than the [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► tree that's forty feet from you but as [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► far as the blurring is concerned it has [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► no more depth information so it treats [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► them all the same which contributes to [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► the what Mark was talking about if you [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► know what it's supposed to look like and [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► you see these pictures it's so obvious [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► to you this something is off right so [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► like so you know problem number one is [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► that the depth information is not high [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► resolution enough to even do the effect [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► consistently around things like object [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► edges and that's that's where you [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► the obvious problems up here is you know [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► around edges you know edges of people's [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► heads edges of objects you know because [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► they're Justin's very course map and [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► they're trying to be smart about it and [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► they succeed sometimes but like even [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► apples example photos I remember like [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► when when the iPhone 8 and 10 we went [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► when their event happened and they put [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► up their big press pages on the site [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► even some of their example photos I [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► thought had obvious flaws from the [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► algorithm so again maybe I'm just seen [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► this too much but they're not capturing [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► enough resolution of depth data to be [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► able to do the edges correctly that's [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► why edges always look weird and fuzzy [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► and they blur things that shouldn't be [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► blurred and vice versa sometimes and the [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► other problem is which on set the blur [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► doesn't look right like if if you have [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► seen actual you know blur photos from [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► real optics more than a few times you [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► will probably recognize that the type [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► and look of the blur in these portrait [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► mode photos isn't right like and and [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► it's hard to put into words why but it's [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► just not the right kind of blur it [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► doesn't look the way it would look for a [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► lens even if the def map was perfect and [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► they were able to do it pixel by pixel [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► the blur is still wrong and so the end [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► and it looks it just looks like a filter [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► it looks like a like a cheap image [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► editing filter that's trying to cover up [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► bad optics which it is so so well you [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► know not not bad small optics that are [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► not designed for this now so all that [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► being said I am very very happy with the [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► camera without any of these tricks it's [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► a fantastic camera and you don't need [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► the portrait crazy effects that all look [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► weird and blur the edges of your dog off [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► you don't need those to make this camera [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► look amazing they're a fun trick they're [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► a fun demo I'm sure and I'm sure people [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► have fun with them and I'm sure [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► everyone's going to write in to me [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► saying how much fun they have with them [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► if you like them great but I really [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► really don't and the cameras are so good [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► without them that I almost find them [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► like an odd detraction from this [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► otherwise awesome camera but fortunately [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► it doesn't get in my way I just don't [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► use those modes and I get to take [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► awesome [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► pictures well you know technically [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► awesome my competition is terrible but [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► but I hate to take technically awesome [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► pictures with this camera and with both [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► of these cameras and finally had the [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► flexibility of having that zoomed in [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► lens and I loved all that I just have no [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► use for the for the trickery modes [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► having a telephoto lens is really really [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► nice [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► and I forget that it's a thing at first [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► because I'm so used to just never ever [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► ever zooming my camera ever you know and [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► early as my iPhone I should say in the [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► same way that I never really use the [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► flash ever because I've just trained [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► myself to never use the flash which [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► actually from everything I've gathered [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► and seen the flash on the iPhone both [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► front facing and rear is actually not [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► bad I mean it doesn't mean that it's [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► perfect but it as a flash goes [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► particularly on a phone it's pretty [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► decent and so because I've trained [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► myself to never zoom I forget that the [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► telephoto lens is a thing but as it [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► turns out it's awesome just like you [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► were saying Marco just to have the [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► option to zoom at all is really really [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► nice [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► and as a quick aside at work today we [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► had a chili cook-off and in I'm going [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► somewhere with this the way it worked [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► was we had something like we had [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► something like twelve different [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► employees cooked Chili's and then they [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► gave us like a little shooter like a [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► shot cup or it would be a glass if you [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► will but like a little play a paper cup [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► it was like the size of a shot that you [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► could take a little sample of each of [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► the chilies and you know vote on [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► whichever one was your favorite right so [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► I take it a picture to send to Aaron [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► earlier today and I used portrait mode [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► now in the defense of Apple portrait [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► mode was only really officially marketed [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► as being for people but what I did was I [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► took a shot of my stack of you know shot [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► cups if you will and and I sent it to [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► her and I just looked back at it a few [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► minutes ago and realized that if you [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► look at it at a glance it looks really [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► really good or at least it does to me [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► but if you look at it for even a second [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► more than a glance and I've put a link [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► in the show notes now put a link in the [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► chat room look at the right side all the [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► way at the top like part of the cup it's [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► just gone which [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► yes proposed algorithm kind of hopefully [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► found the edge of that design on the cup [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► and expected that that was an edge of a [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► person and just blurt it out for you [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► which I mean again to be fair to Apple [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► like this is a really crummy situation [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► to put this software through right to [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► put this edge detection through like [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► this is this is this is ripe for failure [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► but at the same time like it is it is [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► clear that I'm not going to be giving up [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► on my Micro Four Thirds camera anytime [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► soon you know what I mean so I think the [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► blur effect that Marco thought look bad [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► I think that blur effect would be fine [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► if there was depth information back [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► there because the reason I think it [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► looks terrible is because it is [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► basically blurring a flat photo whereas [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► if you have an actual absolute optically [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► you know blurred stuff depending on the [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► distance the closer things are blurred [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► less than things are farther away like [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► depending it from with how close they [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► are to like that you know the focal [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► point right but if you only have depth [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► information for the first like two feet [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► in front of you everything behind that [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► is like a blurred poster and it looks [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► like a blurred poster but all that said [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► I agree with Marco like you don't need [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► this the cameras are great without it [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► there that you know that's probably why [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► we didn't talk about it's like these are [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► the best iPhone cameras ever everything [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► Apple says it's true they are better [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► than the previous cameras and the [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► previous cameras are already pretty good [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► and they're great and you'll take good [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► pictures with them two things to say [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► about this the portrait lighting modes [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► I think the fill their purpose better [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► than the whatever the portrait blurring [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► mode because they're so focused on like [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► selfies and you know dramatic pictures [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► of people they're more like Instagram [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► filters were like yeah we're gonna [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► mangle your picture for an artistic [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► effect no one is going to think like [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► this is an untouched photo and that's [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► the point the crazy studio lighting [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► where blacks out the background for [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► extra drama and stuff you can get some [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► hilarious weird effects out of that but [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► it's kind of you know that's it the [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► people who want to use it and try it are [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► getting exactly what they want out of it [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► ridiculous over long dramatic effects [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► that they're gonna screw up a lot of [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► time but hey you think 900 selfies [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► before you pick the one you like anyway [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► right so no problem there as for the [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► portrait mode blurring thing which has [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► been around for a while now and I see [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► all over the place in real life on on [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► Instagram [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► I think the main feature of that is if [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► you don't have a big expensive camera [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► and most people don't and I just look at [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► the numbers like this they don't sell a [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► lot of big expensive cameras as compared [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► to the number of cell phones this is the [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► first time many people have ever been [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► able to take a picture that has this [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► look that you know oh the thing I wanted [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► to take a picture of now look sharper [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► because the rest of the thing is blurred [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► and so I'm not distracted by the [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► background and it looks like a better [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► picture it looks more professional it [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► doesn't matter whether they can tell [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► whether it looks right or not all that [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► matters is that they had never [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► previously had the ability to take [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► pictures there were anything like this [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► that had any kind of depth of field [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► right it was always like everything was [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► you know there's some tiny pinhole [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► camera and everything was in focus cuz [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► all the light beams were getting phone [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► through this tiny tiny aperture on there [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► you know cheap camera on their phone [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► right and so for them it's a huge [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► upgrade of never having this effect and [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► subjectively looking at a picture of [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► your kid with the background and [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► pleasantly blurred out makes your kid [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► look better right it's not that they're [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► comparing that to how it would look with [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► you know an actual wide aperture big [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► glass expensive camera because they [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► don't have one of those and they [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► probably never will they're comparing it [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► to how it would look if that with that [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► effect turned off and as far as they're [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► concerned this looks better because it [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► just looks closer to like a [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► quote-unquote professional picture or a [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► magazine type picture and I can see that [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► I can see but when I see if we use it [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► like they just say I just like it better [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► it looks better so in the end that the [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► blurring portrait picture is giving [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► people a better experience with this [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► phone at least in the moment where [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► they're like this phone takes pictures [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► that I'm just blown away they maybe [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► don't even know what it is about them [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► like they just look better right and [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► even if you point out how you just [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► erased your kids ear they're like oh but [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► I still like it the only only concern [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► with the blurring which so many people [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► love is that I worry that years down the [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► line they will feel bad that all their [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► pictures of lily and Apple also saves [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► the unmodified picture so that shouldn't [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► be a problem but I still worry that [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► somehow that information will get lost [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► or the blurred [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► we burned out to a flat JPEG and moved [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► around to different service and just you [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► know I don't know like I've already [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► heard from some people who kind of [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► regret they took a lot of pictures of [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► their kids with that maybe they maybe [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► they don't know they can recover the [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► original or maybe they can't anymore [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► because they've exported it in some way [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► but in general I think despite what [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► Marco and I a many other big camera [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► owning people think about it a lot of [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► people like this feature I think it [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► helps sell iPhones and I think it makes [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► people happier with their phone and [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► happier with the pictures they take with [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► it yeah I agree [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► and again if you don't take a critical [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► eye to it which for the three of us is [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► or certainly the two of you probably the [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► three of us is hilarious but you know if [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► I don't if I don't really and truly look [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► at these pictures even those cups which [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► as soon as you take a true look at it [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► it's so obvious how broken it is but at [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► a glance I didn't even notice so yeah if [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► you're not discerning then this is more [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► than enough and it saves you the [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► thousand plus dollars of getting another [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► camera that has big glass etc yeah you [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► would want to spend a thousand dollars [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► on a camera right yeah why would you [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► guys spend $1,200 on a phone it's fine [TS]

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00:44:40 ◼   ► ATP Kim Albrecht writes in with John [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► consider gaming on the GeForce now [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► service instead of getting a tricked-out [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► new Mac Pro and and Kim included a [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► youtube link which we will put in the [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► show notes so what is g-force now and [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► what is this about what is this all [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► so the short answer is no I wouldn't [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► consider that but the longer answer is [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► what do you for us now is g-force now is [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► another sad / I don't know it's it's sad [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► to me attempt to get gaming to bring [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► gaming to Mac users right you got a Mac [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► you want to play games [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► boot camp is there for you if you want [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► it but even if you go in boot camp you [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► probably don't have the best GPU because [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► Apple isn't cellmaxx with it and so [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► you're like what if you want to play the [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► most demanding modern PC games but you [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► don't want to and a PC you just have a [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► Mac you're kind of stuck these days and [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you for us now is the service a lot like [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► some services in the past including the [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► one I'm most familiar with on live for [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► many years ago where it will run the [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► game for you in a data center far away [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► on a tricked-out PC with all the fancy [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► hardware presumably using nvidia gpus [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► right and then it will let you remotely [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► control that PC sending the picture of [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► it to your screen and letting your [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► keyboard and mouse act as input for it [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► so that's what the g-force now services [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► and it lets you run unlike your dinky [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► like Matt you know MacBook escape with a [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► Wimpy GPU you can run the most modern [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► game at a really high frame rate at a [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► really high resolution because you're [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► not running it it's running on a fancy [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► computer far away from you you're just [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► displaying the results is kind of a dumb [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► terminal but of course there's no you [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► know no free lunch you've got latency [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► because you're communicating over the [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► Internet the image quality that you're [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► getting is not going to be the same as [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► if it was running locally because they [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► have to compress that video and send it [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► to you you need to have a fast internet [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► connection [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► to have not many hitches and your [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► internet connection you need to have a [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► surprising amount of bandwidth because [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► there are a lot of frames in that video [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► and that's generally why I wouldn't want [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► instead of a local computer because the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► compromises are not great and they are [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► especially bad for some of the types of [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► games that I like like you know a game [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► like destiny if I want to try I would [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► love to play destiny too on on the PC [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► because I get a higher framerate and [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► it's higher res but destiny does have a [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► game that is very sensitive to lag it [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► would really affect gameplay if you want [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► to play something like civilization or [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► some other game that is also very [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► demanding but maybe not as sensitive to [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► like I don't know someone who play [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► civilization could tell me if it's if [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► it's a game where you need to have [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► twitch reflexes but surely there are [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► games out there that you don't care [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► about the extra latency and it's more [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► about you know the rest of the gameplay [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► experience this would be something you [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► might be interested in it's going to be [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► a pay service and then you have to pay [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► for the games on top of that so it's you [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► know it's cheaper than buying a gaming [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► PC but it's an additional cost so I wish [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► them luck with the service and it seems [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► like a good idea I just wish that gaming [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► would actually get better on Macs but if [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► that's never ever gonna happen I'm kind [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► of glad that someone still feels like [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► there's money to be squeezed from Mac [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► users should want to play games as long [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► as they make that amount of money [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► smaller than the price and hasslein and [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► desk space of buying a gaming PC I guess [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► maybe there's a market for it alright so [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► mark MV writes in do you use a VPN if so [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► which one would you recommend so the [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► motivation here I think is that there [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► are many VPN services that that allow [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► for different things one example is if [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► you live outside the United States but [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► want to have an internet connection that [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► appears to be within the United States [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► so you can use well I guess Netflix used [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► to be a good example now I don't think [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► it's quite as important or any number of [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► other services that are that are forced [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► to be us-only but another option is if [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► you're just in a public Wi-Fi hotspot [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► and you want your your communications to [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► be encrypted then you could use a VPN [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► for that I do use a VPN when I am out of [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► the house on a Wi-Fi networks that I do [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► not trust or if for some reason I want [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► to get on my in-home network and the [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► answer that I have for what VPN do I [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► recommend well I recommend the [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► VPN that you run on your Synology that's [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► sitting in your house it's not a [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► terribly useful recommendation I'll be [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► the first to admit but you could install [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► mac OS server if you have a computer at [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► home a Mac at home that's on all the [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► time if you have any sort of like cheap [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► computer that can run Linux you can run [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► you know various different servers that [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► do it that way or if you have a Synology [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► that I strongly recommend setting up a [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► VPN server on there if like me you [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► connect your Synology to the Internet [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► which I know John's is not but that's [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► what I do I can't speak for either of [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► you guys so Marco what do you do for [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► this if anything I mostly don't use them [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► because first of all I'm hardly ever out [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► of my house and when I am usually on the [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► cell network and I know the Sun network [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► is not perfectly secure but I'm hardly [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► ever connecting to somebody else's Wi-Fi [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► it is what I'm saying [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► so it where I think is probably the most [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► common need for a VPN is to you know [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► protect yourself in that kind of [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► situation there are lots of other [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► reasons to use one as you said you know [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► I I'm not that up on what's the best [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► solution if security and privacy are the [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► main reasons you're using them there [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► like you can use a big service like like [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► so the one I use occasionally when I [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► need it is encrypt me which is formally [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► known as cloak I signed up for that a [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► little while back but it's mostly for [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► practicality not like sheer amount of [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► security so for instance at my in-laws [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► place their crappy rural ISP blocks [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► outbound SSH connections so I can't into [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► any of yes so I can't log into any of my [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► servers when I'm there it's probably [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► like I'm sure it's like you know some [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► like Windows worm probably started [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► attacking SSH servers they just figure [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► they block I don't know I'm sure there [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► was a reason like that it's not whatever [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► it is not a good reason but the fact is [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► I have to occasionally log in the [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► servers when I'm away so [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► so I basically bought it just to do that [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► but I use it also when traveling you [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► know when I have to be like on a hotel [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► Wi-Fi for a reasonable connectivity I'll [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► use it that but I usually don't use one [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► because again I'm usually I'm almost [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► never connected to anybody else's Wi-Fi [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► networks I think the whole idea of [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► connecting to a random Wi-Fi network in [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► public and letting all your traffic flow [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► over that without always being encrypted [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► like without everything running over [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► HTTP which you know let's face it you're [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► gonna have something that probably [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► doesn't the idea of that sounds crazy to [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► me and I think we're gonna look back on [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► this era of using public Wi-Fi networks [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► unencrypted like I think we're gonna [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► look back on this and think that was [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► crazy [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► in in not even that long maybe in five [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► or ten years this was the whole idea of [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► can I think of random public Wi-Fi and [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► everyone not having every device have a [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► Sylar connection that is theirs in [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► private that's gonna seem barbaric but [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► anyway yeah I use I use cloak which is [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► now known as encrypt me but hardly I [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► hope that I hardly ever actually need to [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► use it if you are doing it more for [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► privacy I don't know a lot about this [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► but I do know there is always discussion [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► about like which of the various VPN [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► services keep logs or will be beholden [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► to government requests or things like [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► that there's all sorts of like levels of [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► paranoia slash security depending on [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► your point of view that that you can go [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► into with this and I not familiar with [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► that so I will say if you lead in that [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► direction or if you have more advanced [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► needs like that you're probably better [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► off doing something more like KC's just [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► suggested which is like kind of running [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► your own on some kind of server that you [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► can trust somewhere rather than doing [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► somebody's big service but that's I [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► don't worry about that I'm always [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► worried about you know kind of like this [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► story's about antivirus software being a [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► vector for malware right VPNs the VPNs [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► that are secretly run by like some [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► hostile foreign government unbeknownst [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► to you they're just man in the middle [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► and all of your traffic even is secure [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► stuff and feeding you fake certificates [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► for SSL and all sorts of other stuff and [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► like I'm using on my Synology its local [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► it's fine it's like a you don't know [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that you don't know like Synology could [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► be unknowing shipping some you know [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► thing that is infected with some malware [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► that is sending all your traffic to [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► who-knows-where by in general I use VPN [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► at work for work because I have to I [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► have no idea if the VPN I'm using for [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► work is actually making things more [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► secure or not but I have to use it so I [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► when I am out and about I'm never [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► connecting back to anything in my home [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► because I have no way to do so just [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► because that just makes me feel more [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► comfortable and I tend not to you know I [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► think I have cloak and a couple other [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► VPN software that I think I've used on [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► occasion when I've been feeling [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► particularly paranoid and have no choice [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► but to connect to some potentially [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► sketchy Wi-Fi network but in general I I [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► will connect to Wi-Fi at the hotel I'm [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► staying at and I'll just use it and just [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► try not to worry about it I'm basically [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► going for the Big Sky theory which is a [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► lot of people out in the world didn't [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► unless someone is specifically targeting [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► me I'm probably gonna be fine [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► and on-cell most of the time that I'm [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► away anyway but I have to think back a [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► few times over so I use the hotel Wi-Fi [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► I rely on the fact that the things I [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► care about should all be over a cell and [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► I just hope that I'm not being [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► man-in-the-middle with some fake [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► certificate authority crap and I just [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► keep my fingers crossed because what [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► else can you do and there's also other [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► practical reasons you might want to use [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► one like there's a lot of VPN services [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► that provide built-in ad blocking for [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► like just all of your stuff through the [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► VPN there's some that that enable you [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► know as he said to enable you to change [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► your regions for video services which [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► can be nice there's also such and that [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► could be not only just internationally [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► but even that could be for things like [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► sports black out things which I'll I [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► don't want even pretend to know anything [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► more than just that's a term that exists [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► I'm sorry there's also things like like [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► on airplanes where a lot of times the [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► airplane Wi-Fi providers will throttle [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► or block certain things or they'll do [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► they'll do creepy things like recompress [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► images down to lower lower sizes and if [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► your friend or do something that [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► requires you to not have your images [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► recompress like if you're doing web [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► development or something that might get [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► in your way so you can you know [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► oftentimes they will allow you to get [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► around those restrictions even when [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► you're like at a hotel or something or [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► on some kind of like large public Wi-Fi [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► network like an airport or something [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► like that [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► a lot of times they will use different [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► traffic prioritization schemes to D [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► prioritize or limit certain types of [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► traffic that might get in your way so [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► what you know if you're like you know [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► trying to download something off of a [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► CDN or if you're trying to watch a [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► youtube video or something that might [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► get throttled or blocked [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► Hotel or Airport if you download it [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► directly but if you go through a VPN it [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► might not be so like there it kind of [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► gives you more flexibility and more [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► options to have this tool at your [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► disposal if you're out and about a lot [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► yeah some people use it just to get a [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► different route like if you're having [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► trouble reaching a server and connect [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► your VPN because then your traffic will [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► go through the VPN which may be [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► geographically located in a way that [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► totally changes your route to that host [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► and suddenly you can get through to it [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► some people have tried this like getting [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► through to the store when ordering [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► putting their thing on Wi-Fi through a [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► VPN to have a different route on one [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► device to see if maybe their CDN comes [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► up sooner lots of interesting things you [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► can do to sort of using VPN not for its [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► primary purpose but merely to just take [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► a different path to the same destination [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► all right Eliot George would like to [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► know do you think Apple will eventually [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► bring air power to its magic mouse and [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► keyboard so to recap the new iPhones all [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► support G a key g-g-gee wireless [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► charging Thank You that's neat [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► exactly and pizzelle they pronounce they [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► support that wireless charging and so [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► the Apple is announced but not released [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► a special mat that will allow you to [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► charge your phone your watch and your [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► ear pods given you spend money on a [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► special case or get a brand-new set of [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► air pods all on the same mat because [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► currently you can only from most of [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► these pads you can only charge one [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► device at a time and so air power will [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► allow you to do if you're super nerd [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► like me that has a watch in air pods and [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► a phone it will let you do all three on [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► one pad so it's asking do we think that [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► Apple will eventually bring air power to [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► match your mouse and keyboard I don't [TS]