The Incomparable

312: A Cyborg Dolphin


00:00:00   it's not brain science its rocket [TS]

00:00:02   surgery this is johnny mnemonic [TS]

00:00:08   [Music] [TS]

00:00:10   the entire terminal number 300 well [TS]

00:00:14   August 2016 welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:20   uncomfortable rocket surgery edition [TS]

00:00:22   where we look at a questionable film [TS]

00:00:25   from a recent or past decade and discuss [TS]

00:00:29   its mid-nineties the nineties is now in [TS]

00:00:32   our in our sites we revisit the 2010s [TS]

00:00:34   with kool Kat and now it's the nineties [TS]

00:00:36   and johnny mnemonic from a height of [TS]

00:00:39   cyberpunk mania ok from several years [TS]

00:00:42   after the heights but a cyberpunk baby [TS]

00:00:44   comes [TS]

00:00:46   Keanu Reeves in a film based on a short [TS]

00:00:50   story by William Gibson Gibson also [TS]

00:00:52   credited with the screenplay for a [TS]

00:00:55   screenwriter he's a very fine novelist [TS]

00:00:57   so joining me to talk about Johnny [TS]

00:01:01   mnemonic are three brave people David [TS]

00:01:05   lure hello i just want to say I saw a [TS]

00:01:07   cool cat twice twice this is not about [TS]

00:01:11   cool cat [TS]

00:01:12   dammit are all your comments gonna be [TS]

00:01:15   about the cat instead of da day he is [TS]

00:01:19   Joe rosenstiel is here Joe I have faxed [TS]

00:01:22   information to you so it's in the facts [TS]

00:01:25   / look for it no tax but i'll check the [TS]

00:01:27   three anime images that i have and [TS]

00:01:30   compared against the 16 gigabytes I have [TS]

00:01:33   stored in the data doubler inside my [TS]

00:01:34   brain [TS]

00:01:35   okay well done and also uh hey Baldy its [TS]

00:01:40   mahdi actually because of when I was [TS]

00:01:43   born just the mention of Yakuza and [TS]

00:01:45   black ice makes things sound cool [TS]

00:01:48   yeah it's true it's true though study [TS]

00:01:50   those the tropes that our work here in [TS]

00:01:53   Johnny mnemonic so yeah I will give us [TS]

00:01:56   the road short story called Johnny [TS]

00:01:57   mnemonic i remember reading it was in [TS]

00:01:59   his burning chrome collection and then [TS]

00:02:03   they decided not to make a movie of [TS]

00:02:06   neuromancer his groundbreaking and [TS]

00:02:07   famous famous novel which the rights [TS]

00:02:10   were sold to somebody else and they [TS]

00:02:12   never made a movie over it but uh but [TS]

00:02:14   instead [TS]

00:02:15   somebody said oh but we have the rights [TS]

00:02:17   to this other thing called Johnny [TS]

00:02:18   mnemonic we could make a movie of that [TS]

00:02:19   and they hired robert longo to direct it [TS]

00:02:23   robert longo a painter and sculptor not [TS]

00:02:25   a director but what hey what the heck [TS]

00:02:28   and cass Keanu Reeves four years before [TS]

00:02:32   the matrix a very this is like the movie [TS]

00:02:34   The Matrix it's like that all the wrong [TS]

00:02:36   and it makes you realize what a magical [TS]

00:02:39   miracle the matrix is so yeah whats it's [TS]

00:02:43   not even that they hired him apparently [TS]

00:02:44   he and Gibson got together [TS]

00:02:47   well yeah and then they couldn't find [TS]

00:02:48   enough money so they got somehow 30 [TS]

00:02:51   times the money which is bizarre [TS]

00:02:53   they wanted to make a weird [TS]

00:02:54   one-million-dollar art film based on [TS]

00:02:56   Johnny mnemonic and instead they [TS]

00:02:58   couldn't get funding for that but they [TS]

00:02:59   could get what is it uh tristar to put [TS]

00:03:03   in like 30 million sure this is why [TS]

00:03:09   tristar doesn't exist or didn't exist in [TS]

00:03:11   a they no longer use it very often [TS]

00:03:14   most of the time but it's part of sony [TS]

00:03:16   pictures entertainment so it's all that [TS]

00:03:18   money they had in the nineties right [TS]

00:03:19   after they set up the studio and boy [TS]

00:03:22   what a what a total waste of other [TS]

00:03:25   movies that we've seen on on the rocket [TS]

00:03:27   surgery I have to say it is the most [TS]

00:03:29   like super mario brothers from two years [TS]

00:03:31   before there's something about those bad [TS]

00:03:33   movies from the nineties something about [TS]

00:03:36   its it's not quite as well lit while the [TS]

00:03:38   other so the other way think so i think [TS]

00:03:40   is the max headroom connection that [TS]

00:03:41   Super Mario Brothers was by the [TS]

00:03:43   directors of the original max headroom [TS]

00:03:44   TV movie from the UK and they brought [TS]

00:03:47   some of the perhaps even literally the [TS]

00:03:50   sets from Max Headroom into into super [TS]

00:03:54   mario brothers John mnemonic also [TS]

00:03:56   reminds me of Max Headroom because Mad [TS]

00:03:58   Max Headroom was one of the better [TS]

00:03:59   realize sort of cyberpunk visions it you [TS]

00:04:03   know and and the sad thing about Johnny [TS]

00:04:05   mnemonic is it was it's a major motion [TS]

00:04:07   picture made almost ten years after the [TS]

00:04:11   30 million made almost ten years after [TS]

00:04:13   max headroom was was done on television [TS]

00:04:15   and I it is not does not look better in [TS]

00:04:20   basically anyway max headroom understood [TS]

00:04:23   that the way to make something look cool [TS]

00:04:25   and computer-generated was to make a [TS]

00:04:28   background and then put rubber hair on a [TS]

00:04:30   person who would act weird you know [TS]

00:04:32   well yeah but but even even just the the [TS]

00:04:35   hello world of it does not look as [TS]

00:04:37   futuristic or I mean it's just it looks [TS]

00:04:40   like they're driving through newark yeah [TS]

00:04:42   we would be greater than actually shot [TS]

00:04:44   in newark they didn't have to do that [TS]

00:04:46   and then apply canada at one point that [TS]

00:04:48   says free city of newark and you think [TS]

00:04:50   oh here comes the futuristic dystopian [TS]

00:04:51   new work they're going to make fun of [TS]

00:04:53   New Jersey and it really really just [TS]

00:04:55   kinda looks like a city [TS]

00:04:56   it looks like present a dystopian newark [TS]

00:04:58   know the difference is and my maximum [TS]

00:05:00   taught me this is if there is our fires [TS]

00:05:02   going on in trash barrels and it's a [TS]

00:05:05   dystopian future and boy they got that [TS]

00:05:07   they got him inside to which everybody [TS]

00:05:09   would die of the smoke by the way for [TS]

00:05:11   that but it doesn't matter somehow it's [TS]

00:05:12   all good inside so I sure should i [TS]

00:05:16   should i summarize the plot as we go as [TS]

00:05:19   we do [TS]

00:05:20   does that sound like I think I should do [TS]

00:05:21   now is is there enough plot to summarize [TS]

00:05:24   we can spend about 20 minutes making [TS]

00:05:25   final the opening crawl and then we went [TS]

00:05:27   through the rest of the movie the [TS]

00:05:29   opening crawl is pretty much all you [TS]

00:05:31   need like we were watching it and the [TS]

00:05:34   fourteen-year-old goes there's a movie [TS]

00:05:36   after that that's the story there's a [TS]

00:05:38   lot of words it takes forever [TS]

00:05:41   it's it's really ugly its garish it's [TS]

00:05:44   like it's daring you to read it and then [TS]

00:05:47   at that point I'm still optimistic I'm [TS]

00:05:48   like oh this is the movie version of the [TS]

00:05:51   magazine mando 2000 except without the [TS]

00:05:54   coherence there's too much text in [TS]

00:05:57   general and it's also too much text to [TS]

00:05:58   use that font and it's also too much [TS]

00:06:00   text to use God raised that's shoot out [TS]

00:06:03   from the middle of the screen as the [TS]

00:06:05   text scrolls up through it I really [TS]

00:06:06   quickly I can't imagine how excited the [TS]

00:06:11   intern was when he was given the task to [TS]

00:06:13   do this and how excited the director was [TS]

00:06:16   when you saw how cool and it was in [TS]

00:06:18   dailies but in the film this is a bad [TS]

00:06:21   idea [TS]

00:06:21   yeah we bought an amiga use every button [TS]

00:06:24   on it [TS]

00:06:25   yea crowd tells us a lot about this [TS]

00:06:28   world that we're in I guess there's [TS]

00:06:30   nerve attenuation syndrome which is a [TS]

00:06:32   terrible disease that people seem to [TS]

00:06:35   have there are ppl code below techs who [TS]

00:06:38   are apparently red rebels against the [TS]

00:06:42   corporations that rule world in the year [TS]

00:06:45   in the far-off future of 20 21 by the [TS]

00:06:48   way [TS]

00:06:48   yeah it's also a capital L lowercase o [TS]

00:06:51   capital t e KS yeah so you know just [TS]

00:06:55   just just to really make it like Future [TS]

00:06:57   II can't be low-tech people it's gonna [TS]

00:06:59   be low tex yes [TS]

00:07:01   oh yeah oh yeah and again I'm just [TS]

00:07:04   saying this is 25 years in the future [TS]

00:07:05   from when they from when they made it [TS]

00:07:07   and that was a really bad 25 years i [TS]

00:07:11   guess that that now there's just flames [TS]

00:07:14   and in oil barrels everywhere in the in [TS]

00:07:17   the city anyway so after the kraal which [TS]

00:07:20   is big and looks awful [TS]

00:07:23   we are taken to the internet 21 there's [TS]

00:07:29   a considerable lon Moore man [TS]

00:07:31   uh-huh I can accept that as good as [TS]

00:07:33   lawnmower man even though this was made [TS]

00:07:35   earlier I wrote down it looks like an [TS]

00:07:37   episode of reboot the saturday morning [TS]

00:07:40   cgi cartoon we fly through the internet [TS]

00:07:44   and end up through this really kind of [TS]

00:07:47   dumps 3d stuff we end up in the new [TS]

00:07:52   darwin in where Johnny mnemonic well [TS]

00:07:55   johnny is his name he wakes up he's got [TS]

00:07:58   there's a girl there she's wearing a [TS]

00:07:59   nightgown [TS]

00:08:00   she says I gotta go get some ice there's [TS]

00:08:02   already ice in the room she doesn't come [TS]

00:08:04   back so that's that's our welcome to [TS]

00:08:08   johnny is he's I don't know he's getting [TS]

00:08:13   dumped [TS]

00:08:14   he's getting dumped by the girl from [TS]

00:08:17   last night who knows a girl from five [TS]

00:08:20   minutes ago I and I'd quite frankly [TS]

00:08:24   don't know he won't remember her five [TS]

00:08:26   minutes from now they do not go out of [TS]

00:08:27   their way to establish anything about [TS]

00:08:29   Johnny's personality your tastes [TS]

00:08:31   now what so it comes really out of [TS]

00:08:33   nowhere when late in the movie has a [TS]

00:08:35   breakdown set and apparently he likes [TS]

00:08:36   room service and luxury [TS]

00:08:38   yeah it was done with that now yeah [TS]

00:08:40   other at this point so that then we've [TS]

00:08:43   got this so we've got we had the 3d [TS]

00:08:45   fly-through and we've got establishing [TS]

00:08:47   shots that he's in this hotel and I was [TS]

00:08:50   already in despair about this movie when [TS]

00:08:52   we get to this point to the point where [TS]

00:08:54   i wrote down in my notes like six lines [TS]

00:08:56   down so early i wrote I take back [TS]

00:08:59   everything bad i ever said about blade [TS]

00:09:01   runner haha [TS]

00:09:02   this is the point in the movie where I [TS]

00:09:03   think boy they really want to be Blade [TS]

00:09:07   Runner and they are not even like not [TS]

00:09:09   even close to being blade runner yeah [TS]

00:09:11   this is like a bunch of high school kids [TS]

00:09:12   in 1989 making a a school project [TS]

00:09:16   version of blade runner except i think [TS]

00:09:18   that would turn out better too [TS]

00:09:19   yeah I like that the USA Network's when [TS]

00:09:22   they would they used to have those those [TS]

00:09:23   late-night syfy things that they would [TS]

00:09:25   make in Canada is almost eerily eerily [TS]

00:09:28   similar to this [TS]

00:09:29   yeah it's probably the same people [TS]

00:09:31   working on it sort of the skill level of [TS]

00:09:32   alien from LA [TS]

00:09:34   yeah the for the NXT fans the kathy [TS]

00:09:37   ireland faces so the story is that that [TS]

00:09:39   Johnny is a neuro courier and he stores [TS]

00:09:42   data in his head through an implant but [TS]

00:09:44   in order to get it installed he had to [TS]

00:09:46   lose some of his memories so he wants to [TS]

00:09:48   get his memories back he tells his [TS]

00:09:50   broker or buddy or whatever he is that [TS]

00:09:52   he wants is he wants it all back but he [TS]

00:09:55   doesn't have enough money to do with the [TS]

00:09:56   price got raised so he has to have one [TS]

00:09:58   more job do one more run and then he'll [TS]

00:10:02   be he'll have enough to get the implants [TS]

00:10:03   taken out and he can retire because [TS]

00:10:05   that's totally what happens in movies [TS]

00:10:07   I mean it's a very unique plot and I [TS]

00:10:10   certainly haven't heard of anything like [TS]

00:10:11   this with something trying to get out of [TS]

00:10:13   this sort of situation but it but you [TS]

00:10:17   know Ralphie's played by you know that [TS]

00:10:19   guy who's in that stuff you know it's it [TS]

00:10:21   can't even say mutoko here [TS]

00:10:24   yeah he's it is it a ton of things so [TS]

00:10:27   immediately recognizes 08 hey it's that [TS]

00:10:29   guy [TS]

00:10:30   yeah I don't trust him that's a no Kier [TS]

00:10:32   maybe it's one of those things where if [TS]

00:10:36   we were supposed to on any level at all [TS]

00:10:38   trust this person then I don't think the [TS]

00:10:40   casting was it was a good choice or the [TS]

00:10:42   the weird sort of like a breathy way of [TS]

00:10:45   communicating nearly everything in a [TS]

00:10:48   smoke-filled a video escape to Johnny [TS]

00:10:52   this is sort of like yes this guy's [TS]

00:10:54   totally going to screw you over and you [TS]

00:10:56   were going to be in trouble so to [TS]

00:10:58   totally have faith in him so I Ralphie [TS]

00:11:03   tells him that there's a new job and [TS]

00:11:05   this is what he's going to do he needs [TS]

00:11:06   to go to central Beijing tomorrow night [TS]

00:11:09   don't don't be late got all the [TS]

00:11:12   information is good [TS]

00:11:13   central Beijing very small in Beijing [TS]

00:11:15   not that big a town really and the [TS]

00:11:17   central part is really just like you [TS]

00:11:18   just hang around central Beijing and uh [TS]

00:11:22   it'll all be fine [TS]

00:11:24   yes it's like what may remain in central [TS]

00:11:26   if it's the corner [TS]

00:11:28   yeah the first street know how expensive [TS]

00:11:30   this whole system is to operate where [TS]

00:11:32   you have to start by flying somebody [TS]

00:11:34   that China it's not very pressure so [TS]

00:11:37   huger so he goes to central Beijing [TS]

00:11:39   there are there are people riding [TS]

00:11:41   wearing and at wearing like hospital [TS]

00:11:43   masks and stuff there's a riot going on [TS]

00:11:44   outside the hotel there's like there's [TS]

00:11:47   like taxis and stuff and and what does [TS]

00:11:50   he do Joey just like walks over the [TS]

00:11:51   walks over the hood of the taxis or [TS]

00:11:54   something in the riot to get to the [TS]

00:11:55   hotel [TS]

00:11:56   it's bizarre because they're completely [TS]

00:11:58   surrounded by people so you think you'd [TS]

00:12:00   have the taxicab just be like hey stop [TS]

00:12:02   here before you get to this throng of [TS]

00:12:03   people but somehow i guess they slowly [TS]

00:12:06   and patiently work their way through [TS]

00:12:07   with the car so that he was near the [TS]

00:12:10   building but not quite there and not [TS]

00:12:11   like the rest of the way [TS]

00:12:12   yeah it is just it's ridiculous it's [TS]

00:12:16   just poured directing and have no idea [TS]

00:12:20   what that's supposed to communicate [TS]

00:12:21   other than theirs civil and rest which [TS]

00:12:23   has no impact these people don't seem to [TS]

00:12:26   be suffering from the network attached [TS]

00:12:28   storage problems that's sweeping the [TS]

00:12:31   world but they just seem to be unhappy [TS]

00:12:33   people who are protesting things and he [TS]

00:12:35   goes into the hotel and there's [TS]

00:12:36   immediately [TS]

00:12:37   none of that all swept away and we have [TS]

00:12:39   the the weird interaction with the kids [TS]

00:12:42   and the fish bowl is a big circular fish [TS]

00:12:45   tank and there's a couple of cuties a [TS]

00:12:47   kid or is it a twins who were behind it [TS]

00:12:50   and he looks at them through the fish [TS]

00:12:51   tank as he's getting in the elevator hee [TS]

00:12:55   hee laborious Lee pulls out a little [TS]

00:12:58   thing and presses the button that that [TS]

00:13:01   is his memory doubler which takes his 80 [TS]

00:13:04   gigabytes of memory and makes it a [TS]

00:13:06   hundred and 60 gigabytes of memory i [TS]

00:13:08   want to talk about this okay because [TS]

00:13:10   that more than any visual element it [TS]

00:13:13   takes this movie to within about a [TS]

00:13:16   two-year span [TS]

00:13:18   when memory doublers were a huge thing I [TS]

00:13:23   remember this because my mother worked [TS]

00:13:25   for a company called stack that create a [TS]

00:13:26   thing called stacker which would double [TS]

00:13:28   the space on your drive and then [TS]

00:13:30   microsoft bought it or stolen or [TS]

00:13:32   something i forget what [TS]

00:13:33   anyway my point is this clearly because [TS]

00:13:37   none of this memory double stuff happens [TS]

00:13:38   in the story clearly somebody related to [TS]

00:13:41   the movie was saying well what does it [TS]

00:13:43   matter if he downloads too much memory [TS]

00:13:45   just get a memory Doppler like I just [TS]

00:13:47   got so they have to put in this whole [TS]

00:13:50   rigmarole about him installing a memory [TS]

00:13:53   doubler and his brain to go from 80 gig [TS]

00:13:55   to a hundred and 60 gig and it's [TS]

00:13:57   mentioned like six times throughout the [TS]

00:13:59   movie where they just go on and on about [TS]

00:14:01   how even after the memory doubler could [TS]

00:14:05   just not had the memory doubler it [TS]

00:14:08   really doesn't make anything any better [TS]

00:14:10   and we get the the weird little port you [TS]

00:14:13   know it's not quite a headphone jack but [TS]

00:14:15   a but it's close [TS]

00:14:17   so again something that they got wrong [TS]

00:14:19   about the near future is all the things [TS]

00:14:21   that are like headphone jacks will be [TS]

00:14:22   gone by then [TS]

00:14:23   well this is a little thing they could [TS]

00:14:25   one of many things this movie does worse [TS]

00:14:27   than the matrix in this movie [TS]

00:14:29   he's got ahead jump a port in his head [TS]

00:14:32   that you Jack something into just have [TS]

00:14:34   to sweep his hair aside and poke a tiny [TS]

00:14:35   little needle thing into it but in the [TS]

00:14:38   matrix it's this giant port that you've [TS]

00:14:40   pic with let's look at gasoline hose [TS]

00:14:42   into the back of your head that looks [TS]

00:14:44   cool in in either case i think it's safe [TS]

00:14:47   to say Keanu was not made by happen [TS]

00:14:49   the UH the memory w a tram doubler was [TS]

00:14:54   like in the mid-nineties to that's [TS]

00:14:56   absolutely well yeah I just yeah it is [TS]

00:15:00   I just it's so absurd that's like why do [TS]

00:15:03   we go through this extra stage but it's [TS]

00:15:04   cool it's a cool idea man somebody i [TS]

00:15:06   read i read somebody who said that that [TS]

00:15:09   they thought this was a like they wanted [TS]

00:15:14   to make a David Lynch movie but at some [TS]

00:15:16   point somebody perhaps even the studio [TS]

00:15:18   said no no it needs to be as literal and [TS]

00:15:21   linear as possible that it might have [TS]

00:15:24   even been william gibson who I know said [TS]

00:15:25   something similar to that [TS]

00:15:26   hehe says that there's a cut of this [TS]

00:15:28   that he liked we were saying yesterday [TS]

00:15:30   when we were why [TS]

00:15:31   doing this Joe it's hard to imagine that [TS]

00:15:33   there is a kind of a cut of this that [TS]

00:15:35   could possibly be any good but perhaps [TS]

00:15:37   if it was more nonsensical it would be a [TS]

00:15:40   better movie because your brain could [TS]

00:15:42   fill in the gaps with things like [TS]

00:15:44   perhaps even double your brain could [TS]

00:15:47   double the quality inn in your mind but [TS]

00:15:51   as it is it's just all very linear and [TS]

00:15:54   and boring and it's also just surprising [TS]

00:15:57   because if there is a better cut of this [TS]

00:15:59   would have to use entirely different [TS]

00:16:00   footage with different performances [TS]

00:16:01   because it where their alternate takes [TS]

00:16:05   that were way better than they left on [TS]

00:16:06   the cutting room floor for this with the [TS]

00:16:07   studio's like no no that's too edgy [TS]

00:16:09   let's go back to the one where they [TS]

00:16:11   barely get the lines out yeah i have [TS]

00:16:13   read another script by william gibson he [TS]

00:16:16   wrote an alien 3 script that was [TS]

00:16:19   floating around for a while they did not [TS]

00:16:22   use it for the movie because it was [TS]

00:16:24   completely unfilmable one of the [TS]

00:16:26   features of it was that Ripley was on [TS]

00:16:28   screen but comatose for the entire movie [TS]

00:16:30   so they would have had to pay Sigourney [TS]

00:16:33   Weaver whatever exhibited some she asked [TS]

00:16:36   for to not do anything [TS]

00:16:38   yeah well like I said he held a novelist [TS]

00:16:41   and sure he really understands cinema so [TS]

00:16:47   the courier is late these people up in [TS]

00:16:49   the hotel they're angry because the [TS]

00:16:50   careers late and then Keanu arrives and [TS]

00:16:53   he he said he holds his briefcase and [TS]

00:16:56   says double cheese anchovies [TS]

00:16:58   mm okay like the pizza delivery guy he's [TS]

00:17:04   mr. Smith though not to be confused with [TS]

00:17:06   agent smith and the matrix because that [TS]

00:17:08   is again a much better movie on all [TS]

00:17:11   dimensions the end that and that leads [TS]

00:17:14   him that so so these guys they're [TS]

00:17:15   they're a bunch of guys in this room and [TS]

00:17:17   I think there's at least one woman in [TS]

00:17:18   there and there and there there it turns [TS]

00:17:20   out there like scientists and they're [TS]

00:17:21   trying to give him something to smuggle [TS]

00:17:23   that's he's the this is the big score [TS]

00:17:25   this is what he's going to do they need [TS]

00:17:26   to get 320 gigabytes to newark it's [TS]

00:17:29   extremely dangerous if that's too much [TS]

00:17:30   capacity we know that he only has 160 [TS]

00:17:33   gigabytes of free space with his memory [TS]

00:17:35   doubler but he still agrees to it which [TS]

00:17:37   is apparently extremely dangerous but he [TS]

00:17:39   does it anyway there is a funny moment [TS]

00:17:41   in here where kyon who says question [TS]

00:17:45   you don't look like the people I usually [TS]

00:17:46   work with which i think is interesting [TS]

00:17:48   because that's totally not a question [TS]

00:17:50   now and it's a statement and AE says [TS]

00:17:53   question like to as like a prefix to [TS]

00:17:57   several things that he says is this film [TS]

00:17:59   is and it's like you don't need to say [TS]

00:18:00   that something is the question [TS]

00:18:02   interrogative just yeah they were [TS]

00:18:04   worried he wasn't being robotic enough [TS]

00:18:06   so there's I just to go all the way with [TS]

00:18:07   it no you're too human [TS]

00:18:09   dial it back but the way I don't [TS]

00:18:11   understand that motivation behind that [TS]

00:18:13   all is the real head scratcher and the [TS]

00:18:16   you can tell it's really a future place [TS]

00:18:19   because there are sealed mini blinds in [TS]

00:18:22   a burgundy wall and some giant rear [TS]

00:18:26   screen projection of some anime that's [TS]

00:18:28   going on huh [TS]

00:18:29   it's it's it's really strange what they [TS]

00:18:32   chose to do with this and I e I don't [TS]

00:18:37   even understand the dialogue that he's [TS]

00:18:38   having where they would be like okay [TS]

00:18:40   we're going to agree to give you this [TS]

00:18:42   amount of data and you won't even tell [TS]

00:18:44   us how much you could store he's just [TS]

00:18:46   like it's enough it's like this this is [TS]

00:18:48   a weird sort of equipment measuring [TS]

00:18:50   question like this this is an actual [TS]

00:18:52   like you need to do this in order to [TS]

00:18:54   fill this job and a he's just blows it [TS]

00:18:58   off as if it was nothing and it's very [TS]

00:19:01   peculiar how they chose to do that no [TS]

00:19:04   one will be seated during the thrilling [TS]

00:19:05   technical specification seen you get the [TS]

00:19:09   sense that he is trying to you know he [TS]

00:19:15   doesn't care if it's dangerous to him [TS]

00:19:17   because he's just trying to do this one [TS]

00:19:18   last job and they may be are desperate [TS]

00:19:21   because as far as they know they're [TS]

00:19:23   going to get shot to death by the Yakuza [TS]

00:19:25   in a very short amount of time so that [TS]

00:19:27   all that all I you know you could you [TS]

00:19:29   could headcanon some of that a little [TS]

00:19:30   bit but you're right it seems if this is [TS]

00:19:32   incredibly important information with [TS]

00:19:34   that could change the world which is [TS]

00:19:35   what what it turns out to be that having [TS]

00:19:37   your shifty courier who showed up late [TS]

00:19:39   pretending that is a briefcase is a [TS]

00:19:41   pizza box and says no no it's fine it's [TS]

00:19:44   fine it's fine i'm sure it's fine [TS]

00:19:46   you might have some questions for him [TS]

00:19:47   but they just kinda like let it go he [TS]

00:19:49   puts on the VR goggles the the [TS]

00:19:52   encryption system they've got is three [TS]

00:19:55   frames from the TV as they click around [TS]

00:19:57   with their clicker [TS]

00:19:59   on the TV and they they they get those [TS]

00:20:01   images and then they fax those to Newark [TS]

00:20:03   because faxing it apparently is is much [TS]

00:20:06   its likes to factor authorization [TS]

00:20:08   two-factor authentication that you've [TS]

00:20:10   got a fax machine and it's really cool [TS]

00:20:12   features they can they can send a [TS]

00:20:13   picture that's awesome you know my I [TS]

00:20:16   love that little device that the prop [TS]

00:20:18   master made for this [TS]

00:20:19   he's if he's got this thing that looks [TS]

00:20:21   like a photobooth series of photos of [TS]

00:20:24   the three photos and there's this little [TS]

00:20:25   flat reader thing that supposed to suck [TS]

00:20:28   it in [TS]

00:20:29   it's exactly sized for this photo to be [TS]

00:20:32   faxed it's like what else were you [TS]

00:20:33   faxing with this sounds awfully one [TS]

00:20:35   purpose that single purpose but it is it [TS]

00:20:39   is a bizarre direction to go with this [TS]

00:20:43   because even in 1995 like there were [TS]

00:20:47   better ways to transmit a series of [TS]

00:20:50   photos than that so 88 idea i don't [TS]

00:20:53   understand how that was supposed to be [TS]

00:20:54   the future when I i love watching him [TS]

00:20:57   when he's got the VR helmet on or VR [TS]

00:20:59   goggles on and it's not be missing right [TS]

00:21:02   and he's just like our the whole time I [TS]

00:21:05   keep going back and forth to like what [TS]

00:21:06   he's seeing and then and everybody's [TS]

00:21:09   singing and finally we all went there [TS]

00:21:12   making him watch Johnny mnemonic yeah [TS]

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00:22:29   because i like mine and I think you will [TS]

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00:22:45   sponsoring the uncomfortable I feel bad [TS]

00:22:47   about making fun of a show movie for not [TS]

00:22:49   getting the future correct because [TS]

00:22:50   that's famously difficult but it's so [TS]

00:22:52   weird watching a movie that insisted [TS]

00:22:55   futuristic while having you know 320 [TS]

00:22:57   gigabytes is a huge amount and we fact [TS]

00:23:00   things and all the phones still have [TS]

00:23:02   your standard touch tone buttons [TS]

00:23:05   there's nothing like voice control of [TS]

00:23:07   anything that even the AT&T logo is the [TS]

00:23:11   current 1986 AT&T logo the VR goggles by [TS]

00:23:14   the way look exactly like yeah like [TS]

00:23:17   modern brand-new like oculus rift [TS]

00:23:20   goggles there like Bennett nail bad that [TS]

00:23:22   that actually looked pretty good that [TS]

00:23:24   they got that one right [TS]

00:23:25   I really felt bad for their lack of [TS]

00:23:27   voice control when I had to pause the [TS]

00:23:28   movie to go into another room and I was [TS]

00:23:30   watching on my xbox and I could just say [TS]

00:23:33   Xbox pause the movie and Paula while he [TS]

00:23:37   was trying to dial a phone [TS]

00:23:39   oh man and David groans earlier that's [TS]

00:23:44   actually the sound Connery's makes he [TS]

00:23:46   makes ya horrible groans as he's [TS]

00:23:49   watching the VR having it loaded into [TS]

00:23:52   his head anyway so he goes he's freaking [TS]

00:23:54   out because he's just been loaded with [TS]

00:23:56   way too much data so he goes to the [TS]

00:23:58   bathroom does a little kungfu is he get [TS]

00:24:01   his some bleeding from his nose which is [TS]

00:24:02   the universal sign of something wrong in [TS]

00:24:04   your brain is if you get a little [TS]

00:24:05   nosebleed and the meanwhile the actors i [TS]

00:24:08   have come we've been watching them come [TS]

00:24:09   up in the elevator it's a very slow [TS]

00:24:11   elevator sometimes it's as exciting as [TS]

00:24:14   it sounds [TS]

00:24:14   yeah yeah they uh they come in and and [TS]

00:24:18   kill everybody basically they're they're [TS]

00:24:21   killing people shooting people there the [TS]

00:24:22   chopping people it and arms off and [TS]

00:24:25   stuff like that with this my [TS]

00:24:26   no filament with that guy that was the [TS]

00:24:29   coolest thing in the world to me when I [TS]

00:24:32   read the story [TS]

00:24:33   see he's got a detachable thumb and a [TS]

00:24:36   mono- monomolecular filament attached to [TS]

00:24:40   it and it just slices through anything [TS]

00:24:42   and everybody at my crowd thought that [TS]

00:24:45   was the most amazing idea but we never [TS]

00:24:47   quite got the idea right because we [TS]

00:24:50   never remember it was monomolecular [TS]

00:24:52   filament for some reason we thought it [TS]

00:24:54   was monofilament for a long time fishing [TS]

00:24:57   line [TS]

00:24:57   yeah after reading the story in which [TS]

00:24:59   this guy's thumb string cut people's [TS]

00:25:01   heads off and slices through concrete it [TS]

00:25:04   we were like that's where they sell this [TS]

00:25:07   in walmart but that that's a point where [TS]

00:25:10   the coolest thing in the world is just [TS]

00:25:11   made boring by this movie it's true the [TS]

00:25:14   the movies good at that happens a lot [TS]

00:25:17   it is and I I kept expecting kiana to [TS]

00:25:19   just as they walk into just for him to [TS]

00:25:21   go out of the bathroom right behind them [TS]

00:25:23   and just leave but instead he fight he [TS]

00:25:25   does he does some fighting because I [TS]

00:25:27   guess he does he knows kung foo write [TS]

00:25:29   another echoes of echoes of the matrix [TS]

00:25:32   they uh but but he he escapes and they [TS]

00:25:37   torture essentially some of the people [TS]

00:25:40   who are still alive to tell him to tell [TS]

00:25:42   them where he's taking the data and they [TS]

00:25:45   finally give up the important [TS]

00:25:46   information work also interrupt the [TS]

00:25:50   factors that they took like a chop the [TS]

00:25:52   monofilament blade chops the three [TS]

00:25:54   Polaroids into two chunks of two and one [TS]

00:25:58   so he can reuse ends up with one and [TS]

00:26:03   then they lose they lose the other [TS]

00:26:05   it's like partially burned or something [TS]

00:26:07   the other pictures and and the facts [TS]

00:26:10   doesn't go through all the way and then [TS]

00:26:13   and then at that point we cut to the [TS]

00:26:16   free city of newark which is a bunch of [TS]

00:26:19   buildings and then some like you know [TS]

00:26:22   like i said fires in trash cans [TS]

00:26:24   it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of [TS]

00:26:25   sense though because they keep talking [TS]

00:26:27   about the feds and federal authorities [TS]

00:26:28   couple times and they have like a plane [TS]

00:26:31   system that operates into the city so it [TS]

00:26:34   it's weird this separation but it seems [TS]

00:26:37   like a lawless uh like and [TS]

00:26:40   not part of any government and yet they [TS]

00:26:42   he's got a whole passport check that he [TS]

00:26:44   goes through in his implants are scanned [TS]

00:26:46   and all that well i don't know if you [TS]

00:26:49   noticed that are not Jason but [TS]

00:26:50   everything is legal in New Jersey [TS]

00:26:52   interesting even flying the Concorde yes [TS]

00:26:55   she does travel on the Concorde to to [TS]

00:26:58   newark that's a good discount futuristic [TS]

00:27:00   i know i did I playing that had stopped [TS]

00:27:02   being in use but that's right this movie [TS]

00:27:04   was made [TS]

00:27:05   they're gonna bring it back just it is a [TS]

00:27:07   retro look for the the Concord to it [TS]

00:27:09   just looks like the old concord I we we [TS]

00:27:11   take a visit very briefly to the tower [TS]

00:27:13   headquarters of pharma com in the in the [TS]

00:27:16   three City of Newark where they decided [TS]

00:27:18   that they need the head of the career [TS]

00:27:21   Johnny they don't just want to take the [TS]

00:27:23   data out of him they want to cut off his [TS]

00:27:25   head and so they're going to send [TS]

00:27:27   somebody have one of the download codes [TS]

00:27:29   and they are going to get his head [TS]

00:27:33   Joe you have any comments about the [TS]

00:27:34   farmer Comte our first appearing here [TS]

00:27:37   this is the worst model building it up [TS]

00:27:40   ever seen [TS]

00:27:42   I can't believe that they did this it is [TS]

00:27:44   is one of those things where you'd be [TS]

00:27:47   like if you know a kid or teenager I put [TS]

00:27:50   this together for like some sort of [TS]

00:27:51   school report to be like that that's [TS]

00:27:52   neat but in a film it does not hold up [TS]

00:27:55   photographically at all [TS]

00:27:57   I i don't know i don't understand why it [TS]

00:27:58   wasn't just a photo of some other [TS]

00:28:00   building and then they just put pharma [TS]

00:28:02   com on top of it they have towers I mean [TS]

00:28:05   even compare it to something like [TS]

00:28:07   Robocop or something like that where [TS]

00:28:08   they've had to make fake skyscrapers [TS]

00:28:10   before movies have done this even before [TS]

00:28:13   the the groundbreaking effects work done [TS]

00:28:16   in Johnny mnemonic IHS is indescribable [TS]

00:28:20   be painful for me that they keep cutting [TS]

00:28:22   to this establishing shot it's not even [TS]

00:28:23   like different angles because it's a [TS]

00:28:25   three-dimensional model the cup to the [TS]

00:28:27   same angle of this thing over and over [TS]

00:28:30   and over again until the final time they [TS]

00:28:32   cut to it when something unfortunate [TS]

00:28:34   happens to the model but a a can't [TS]

00:28:36   fathom why they chose to do this is [TS]

00:28:38   bizarre never seen metropolis there's a [TS]

00:28:41   pretty good fake tower that that's like [TS]

00:28:42   70 years earlier i love the conversation [TS]

00:28:47   inside the tower because it's one of [TS]

00:28:49   those things where they have to tell [TS]

00:28:50   someone you speak English [TS]

00:28:52   I'll keep speaking Japanese and then [TS]

00:28:55   they have one of those weird movie [TS]

00:28:57   conversations you sometimes get where [TS]

00:28:58   one person speaks one language and the [TS]

00:29:00   other person speaks the other language [TS]

00:29:02   and were left to assume they're both [TS]

00:29:03   fully fluent in each other's languages [TS]

00:29:05   so they don't have to spawn at any point [TS]

00:29:07   just can't speak it [TS]

00:29:08   yep doesn't have that off and it's not [TS]

00:29:11   that interesting a scene either now and [TS]

00:29:14   add Dennis who plays shinji as I don't [TS]

00:29:19   know the exact region of Canada but it [TS]

00:29:21   is definitely a Canadian accent it [TS]

00:29:25   almost sounds very sort of looks like [TS]

00:29:27   and it's so he has his is sort of i'm [TS]

00:29:32   sorry about your kid you know and it's [TS]

00:29:35   like don't talk about my kid and that is [TS]

00:29:38   vaguely related to the plot as it [TS]

00:29:40   unfolds because his daughter died of [TS]

00:29:43   nerve attenuation syndrome you see [TS]

00:29:45   yes black shakes man a bit it's not [TS]

00:29:50   enough to sway him later except kind of [TS]

00:29:51   sort of maybe but only was dying it its [TS]

00:29:54   it's weird that they bring it up here [TS]

00:29:55   and then almost do nothing with it other [TS]

00:29:57   than bring it up one more time for a [TS]

00:29:59   very long time until they need it so [TS]

00:30:00   they bring that they we know when they [TS]

00:30:02   wrote the script they put it put this in [TS]

00:30:03   back earlier because they knew they [TS]

00:30:05   would need it later I guess [TS]

00:30:06   hey keanu reeves is going to he needs [TS]

00:30:10   some help from a nerdy scientist and who [TS]

00:30:12   better to play nerdy doctors scientists [TS]

00:30:14   then Henry Rollins sure as as you do [TS]

00:30:19   typical computer nerd role for him every [TS]

00:30:21   Rollins so bad in this even for this [TS]

00:30:24   movie [TS]

00:30:25   he is noticeably terrible yeah spider [TS]

00:30:28   this isn't even the best Henry Rollins [TS]

00:30:30   acting performance that I've seen i [TS]

00:30:33   would i would gladly watch bad boys to [TS]

00:30:35   Henry Rollins over this this is this is [TS]

00:30:38   not a tour de force performance that [TS]

00:30:41   he's delivering here but nobody's really [TS]

00:30:42   on their a game in this movie except you [TS]

00:30:44   know [TS]

00:30:45   dina meyer admire the one who delivers [TS]

00:30:48   the best performance in the whole film [TS]

00:30:50   was also introduced in the same scene [TS]

00:30:52   here with with Henry Rollins and that's [TS]

00:30:54   surprising because the Empire it so it's [TS]

00:30:59   it's interesting that that you know I is [TS]

00:31:02   that I could hold on to latch onto her [TS]

00:31:05   the emotional driving force in all of [TS]

00:31:08   the scenes that she said and no Keanu [TS]

00:31:11   and definitely on Henry Rollins and [TS]

00:31:13   anyone else i would argue that iced tea [TS]

00:31:15   has several moments huh and and then for [TS]

00:31:19   the most part he manages to sell this [TS]

00:31:22   this sort of tone of I can't believe I'm [TS]

00:31:25   doing this but ok here's the dialogue [TS]

00:31:27   he's playing basically the same role he [TS]

00:31:29   doesn't take girl except now he's not [TS]

00:31:31   true wearing kangaroo makeup so that is [TS]

00:31:34   good i would like to say that my [TS]

00:31:38   girlfriend riots has also just watched [TS]

00:31:40   Henry Rollins movie called he never died [TS]

00:31:42   and she says he's great in it [TS]

00:31:45   there he is an old angry person which [TS]

00:31:47   seems more his speed [TS]

00:31:49   yeah yeah I think he's he seems really [TS]

00:31:51   really really really miss cast for this [TS]

00:31:55   part of a spider the doctor lines in [TS]

00:31:58   this where he tries to not sound angry [TS]

00:32:01   or but he winds up sounding angry even [TS]

00:32:04   though he shouldn't it's it's very odd [TS]

00:32:07   he's good at angry but some of those [TS]

00:32:10   lines should just be like oh what's this [TS]

00:32:13   but no it's more like God's this and we [TS]

00:32:16   also see Deena myers Jane here is she [TS]

00:32:19   she's uh she's got she's obviously [TS]

00:32:22   suffering from the early effects of [TS]

00:32:24   nervous situation syndrome she's mad [TS]

00:32:26   because she wants to be the Ralphie's [TS]

00:32:30   bodyguard instead of the the two [TS]

00:32:33   bodyguards God but she's she's not [TS]

00:32:35   qualified cuz she's got the shakes and [TS]

00:32:38   we also see iced tea is introduced about [TS]

00:32:42   here as j-bone classic ice-t roll [TS]

00:32:46   can we talk about Jane really quick yes [TS]

00:32:47   yes in the story [TS]

00:32:50   her character is Molly millions who is [TS]

00:32:53   one of my favorite fictional characters [TS]

00:32:55   of all time [TS]

00:32:56   she also appears in neuromancer yep and [TS]

00:32:59   she is the coolest cyberpunk easiest she [TS]

00:33:03   is the epitome of cyberpunk will say [TS]

00:33:05   that cyberpunk is all about mirrored [TS]

00:33:06   shades it's basically because Molly [TS]

00:33:09   millions had mirrored shades although [TS]

00:33:11   really what she had was just the lenses [TS]

00:33:14   implanted over her eyes [TS]

00:33:16   and this movie took a great character [TS]

00:33:21   and just jump down the gutter and yeah [TS]

00:33:26   well it's not again I i think because [TS]

00:33:29   neuromancer is right film rights had [TS]

00:33:31   been sold [TS]

00:33:32   they couldn't have Molly millions right [TS]

00:33:34   so instead they just kind of its Jane [TS]

00:33:36   she's fine she doesn't have her cool [TS]

00:33:38   fingernail razor blades doesn't have [TS]

00:33:41   anything [TS]

00:33:41   no and you know she she's fine but the [TS]

00:33:46   entire movie I'm furious that she's not [TS]

00:33:49   Molly I've read neuromancer but I didn't [TS]

00:33:53   piece together the that she was supposed [TS]

00:33:56   to be like that care there's no way [TS]

00:33:58   stroll [TS]

00:33:58   there's no way you could because there's [TS]

00:34:00   nothing left of that character yeah you [TS]

00:34:01   have read johnny mnemonic and see that [TS]

00:34:03   the character is named Molly and she's [TS]

00:34:05   Molly there [TS]

00:34:07   yeah but it's so I didn't find her as [TS]

00:34:10   disappointing because she was she was [TS]

00:34:13   actually a breath of fresh air [TS]

00:34:14   comparatively most of the time and I [TS]

00:34:17   like the scene with her and Ralphie and [TS]

00:34:19   the bodyguards where she tries to [TS]

00:34:21   demonstrate that she's good enough that [TS]

00:34:23   she's faster and better than the the [TS]

00:34:25   other it aging supposedly bodyguards [TS]

00:34:29   that that he has and she can't hold her [TS]

00:34:32   her hand still so it that it's a [TS]

00:34:34   tonight's little test their doesn't [TS]

00:34:38   involve any killing or doing anything [TS]

00:34:40   specific you just can't hold the hand [TS]

00:34:41   still she's got the shakes Baldy whoo [TS]

00:34:45   yeah what is that is that Ralphie is [TS]

00:34:47   called Baldy at this point on others [TS]

00:34:49   Baldy Baldy see what else what else [TS]

00:34:55   happens around here my notes are [TS]

00:34:56   increasingly incoherent because i think [TS]

00:34:58   i just started to write a suicide note [TS]

00:35:00   the movie is increasingly and career and [TS]

00:35:02   this is eighty percent of the way [TS]

00:35:05   through my notes [TS]

00:35:06   wow haha I so the we also have the the [TS]

00:35:11   scene with a j-bone that you had [TS]

00:35:12   described where counter reaches going to [TS]

00:35:14   the place that Ralphie told him to go to [TS]

00:35:15   be writing the video call that they had [TS]

00:35:18   and he owned by the way a video call how [TS]

00:35:22   you make a phone call in this world is [TS]

00:35:24   you get in your VR goggles and we'll see [TS]

00:35:27   this again later in detail you get your [TS]

00:35:28   VR goggles and your VR [TS]

00:35:30   but in all your VR equipment you bring [TS]

00:35:31   up a screen and then there's a [TS]

00:35:33   touch-tone pad in it that you dial in [TS]

00:35:35   the air and then that's created a [TS]

00:35:38   picture of years are such a long scene [TS]

00:35:41   of him [TS]

00:35:42   miming things moving things around with [TS]

00:35:45   his hands which instead of being seen [TS]

00:35:48   that the matrix would do much better [TS]

00:35:49   it's a scene that Minority Report would [TS]

00:35:52   do much better right [TS]

00:35:53   it's a scene that parks and recreation [TS]

00:35:55   would do much to see that shields and [TS]

00:35:56   Yarnell with you [TS]

00:35:58   anyone I'm and so yeah we have we have [TS]

00:36:02   the attempted death here we're gonna [TS]

00:36:06   extract his head by chopping it off this [TS]

00:36:08   is the argument we're gonna cut off your [TS]

00:36:09   head [TS]

00:36:10   there's a line that they have one he [TS]

00:36:12   strapped down which is a time to die a [TS]

00:36:16   time and then there's a big explosion [TS]

00:36:19   ok that was nonsensical I i really hate [TS]

00:36:21   how he checks his watch is like time and [TS]

00:36:25   then need an eclipse the the thing on [TS]

00:36:27   the watching it wasn't the explosion at [TS]

00:36:28   the explosive device that we saw and put [TS]

00:36:30   on the outside but we need to get the [TS]

00:36:31   explosives from you just went through [TS]

00:36:32   security screening he's just that good [TS]

00:36:35   the other inexplicable bit of dialogue [TS]

00:36:37   here is I want you to do something for [TS]

00:36:39   me say bye and then he get the hashed [TS]

00:36:43   well it's every time he says something [TS]

00:36:45   it's like i'm going to show off with my [TS]

00:36:47   clever put out [TS]

00:36:49   uh-huh every one of those moments so the [TS]

00:36:52   point is that uh that uh there there's a [TS]

00:36:55   there's another fight i first get [TS]

00:36:58   chianti when they hit him on the head [TS]

00:37:00   and they said oh not on the head [TS]

00:37:02   we got cut off his head so that they're [TS]

00:37:05   gonna cut off his head and that is when [TS]

00:37:07   Jane crashes down through the ceiling [TS]

00:37:09   vent saves Johnny slices the bad guys [TS]

00:37:12   friend and I is a slice of the bad guy [TS]

00:37:14   friend in half with the monofilament or [TS]

00:37:16   who gets sliced with the mono the model [TS]

00:37:20   i feel i think you're combining these [TS]

00:37:21   two attacks [TS]

00:37:22   oh yeah this is so that the one to get [TS]

00:37:24   Keanu and then there's the one where she [TS]

00:37:25   saves Keanu and they happen back-to-back [TS]

00:37:27   hear this but this for these fight [TS]

00:37:30   scenes combine two flaws you can't tell [TS]

00:37:33   what's going on and also you don't care [TS]

00:37:35   what's going on not accurate [TS]

00:37:38   yeah you're a lot of points but you know [TS]

00:37:40   after gonna get out of the situation and [TS]

00:37:43   he takes here the one guy and then he's [TS]

00:37:45   fighting the other guy and iced tea has [TS]

00:37:47   his buddy who gets shot by accident on [TS]

00:37:50   an iced tea you take the guy and like [TS]

00:37:52   we're even [TS]

00:37:53   you know don't mess with me it's like [TS]

00:37:55   well you tell me something about you [TS]

00:37:57   because i'm going to point a gun at you [TS]

00:37:59   know mrs. i run heaven over there at the [TS]

00:38:01   bridge and he turns around he's gone [TS]

00:38:03   oh yeah that's the towel that works and [TS]

00:38:05   also the bridge is ridiculous because [TS]

00:38:07   it's a suspension bridge so I don't know [TS]

00:38:09   how those cables were staying up but [TS]

00:38:11   they did they were I I can't even [TS]

00:38:15   remember what happens after that scene [TS]

00:38:16   but they kinda way to but we should [TS]

00:38:20   probably just skip ahead [TS]

00:38:21   yeah for the second fight from here i [TS]

00:38:24   have three more line three more notes [TS]

00:38:26   this is where she saved him and this is [TS]

00:38:30   where he gets busted that she's gonna go [TS]

00:38:33   back in and confront Ralphie and he is [TS]

00:38:36   trying to get this stuff from Alfea but [TS]

00:38:39   the you know easy stretch strapped down [TS]

00:38:41   to the table now and they have her go [TS]

00:38:45   through the ceiling vent and drop down [TS]

00:38:47   and save him and it's like i'll pay you [TS]

00:38:49   20,000 yes to make it fifty thousand and [TS]

00:38:52   okay deal [TS]

00:38:54   so that's this great and then they get [TS]

00:38:56   out of there yeah yeah and then the the [TS]

00:39:00   use a guy who's very upset that the guy [TS]

00:39:03   stood in the way with the door and the [TS]

00:39:05   door closed and then eat instead of [TS]

00:39:07   using the the the mono wire to open the [TS]

00:39:11   door he turns around and kills Ralphie [TS]

00:39:15   close relatives right the the slice and [TS]

00:39:18   dice them three times and then you get a [TS]

00:39:21   nice little cut of him sliding apart [TS]

00:39:25   yes as if this were a japanese anime [TS]

00:39:28   with somebody had been just slice three [TS]

00:39:29   times with the the very sharp samurai [TS]

00:39:32   sword but then he's out of there chasing [TS]

00:39:36   them they run they run locked gonna have [TS]

00:39:39   higher and running [TS]

00:39:41   gunfire and running and you make a gun [TS]

00:39:44   futuristic not by making it smaller but [TS]

00:39:45   by making it bulkier you can't really [TS]

00:39:47   tell what kind of gun it is [TS]

00:39:48   yeah um [TS]

00:39:49   and they just keep shooting things and [TS]

00:39:51   running past tons of of uncollected [TS]

00:39:54   trash and they arrive at a little [TS]

00:39:58   stronger and put that you gotta pick it [TS]

00:39:59   up and put it in the burning pin and [TS]

00:40:01   then burn the trash for fuel [TS]

00:40:04   oh well somebody should tell New Jersey [TS]

00:40:06   that yeah but yeah they they get to the [TS]

00:40:09   low-tech stronghold and yes oh it's it's [TS]

00:40:11   it's it's iced tea again and he protects [TS]

00:40:15   them and they because he and Jane know [TS]

00:40:19   one another and she used to run with [TS]

00:40:21   them [TS]

00:40:21   what a coincidence all this is coming [TS]

00:40:23   together right so the low-techs are able [TS]

00:40:25   to protect them from the Yakuza and send [TS]

00:40:28   them down into the steam tunnels [TS]

00:40:31   something like an abandoned subway [TS]

00:40:34   yeah and they they start walking through [TS]

00:40:38   the abandoned subway if you were the [TS]

00:40:40   Yakuza and you're like where did they go [TS]

00:40:42   and be like probably along the path of [TS]

00:40:44   the abandoned subway because it's it's a [TS]

00:40:47   tunnel but they don't go looking for [TS]

00:40:51   them necessarily and they have a very [TS]

00:40:55   long seen here we have the first sort of [TS]

00:40:57   like memory flashback from his memory [TS]

00:40:58   seepage problem and she lets him sleep [TS]

00:41:01   and he's very upset about it because [TS]

00:41:02   that it you shouldn't because he's on [TS]

00:41:05   he's on a timer from from all of this [TS]

00:41:06   from the flashbacks to the Bible on the [TS]

00:41:08   windows that she really cares yeah you [TS]

00:41:12   know that this is this is a great [TS]

00:41:13   relationship because both of them have [TS]

00:41:15   seizures in sequence here first [TS]

00:41:18   he has his seizure and she takes care of [TS]

00:41:20   him and then later she has her her [TS]

00:41:23   little ad network attached storage [TS]

00:41:25   seizure of her own that he gets to watch [TS]

00:41:28   so you know their bodies have a buddy [TS]

00:41:31   and honey system [TS]

00:41:32   really yeah meanwhile by the way this is [TS]

00:41:34   the point where Takashi get spoken to by [TS]

00:41:36   a computer program of some sort in the [TS]

00:41:38   in the form of a of a lady's face [TS]

00:41:40   yes that's him yeah and you go huh [TS]

00:41:44   and then it cut away and it will be [TS]

00:41:47   we'll come back to that later apparently [TS]

00:41:48   la also he asks his office admin about [TS]

00:41:53   what happened about seeing this and [TS]

00:41:58   and there's this whole long scene where [TS]

00:42:00   she's like that was the Swedish [TS]

00:42:02   whatever-it-was who ran the company [TS]

00:42:04   founder of the company [TS]

00:42:06   yeah and she had her mind uploaded in [TS]

00:42:09   Zurich to the thing by the Geneva [TS]

00:42:11   whatever AI convention she's the it is a [TS]

00:42:14   whole long rambling expository thing of [TS]

00:42:18   how she came to be and it's like the [TS]

00:42:20   cheese should do anything in the film [TS]

00:42:22   she just shows up every hour and shouts [TS]

00:42:23   of people who remind you that reminds [TS]

00:42:24   people of things and again you've got [TS]

00:42:26   this really kind of interesting [TS]

00:42:27   cyberpunk backstory that we are entirely [TS]

00:42:29   just holed up in a in a download and [TS]

00:42:33   this is the sort of thing that never [TS]

00:42:34   happens in the william gibson story [TS]

00:42:36   started early one because he's all about [TS]

00:42:38   really short declarative sentences and [TS]

00:42:41   moving things along and having stuff [TS]

00:42:44   happened there are no times in neuro [TS]

00:42:48   enter or burning chrome where everyone [TS]

00:42:49   just stops and someone delivers a [TS]

00:42:51   five-minute backstory speech [TS]

00:42:53   yeah even the staging of this she's [TS]

00:42:55   sitting in a chair reading off of like a [TS]

00:42:58   clipboard with her head down looking at [TS]

00:43:01   the clipboard so she's not even the the [TS]

00:43:03   camera is looking at the top of her head [TS]

00:43:04   to the weird but that she has on top and [TS]

00:43:07   he's sitting against his desk and they [TS]

00:43:10   just cut back and forth between the two [TS]

00:43:12   of them it's like why would you staged [TS]

00:43:14   something like this it is it is beyond [TS]

00:43:16   bizarre it is so uninteresting in every [TS]

00:43:18   way [TS]

00:43:19   what is being said what you're shooting [TS]

00:43:20   it is is tedious but that anyway that [TS]

00:43:24   scene bothers me [TS]

00:43:25   they you know recover and they go to go [TS]

00:43:31   to this thing through the abandoned mall [TS]

00:43:33   food court [TS]

00:43:34   wherever they walk through is that was i [TS]

00:43:36   I thought that was kind of a fun touch [TS]

00:43:38   the the big they walk through a mall [TS]

00:43:41   yeah that the mall seen better days uh [TS]

00:43:42   oh and Johnny explains that he had to [TS]

00:43:45   dump a chunk of his long-term memory his [TS]

00:43:48   childhood was dumped in order to get his [TS]

00:43:50   get his implants put in but now he needs [TS]

00:43:53   to get to a computer [TS]

00:43:55   he says they walk through the the [TS]

00:43:56   shopping mall that has been colonized by [TS]

00:43:58   people people living in it now the [TS]

00:44:00   abandoned shopping mall and I my note [TS]

00:44:02   here is you need to get to a computer [TS]

00:44:03   and I thought if only there were some [TS]

00:44:05   sort of mobile device that can get you [TS]

00:44:07   on the internet and 20 [TS]

00:44:09   he's about to say a word that does is [TS]

00:44:13   not the word it sounds like it's time to [TS]

00:44:15   build a pc no one will be seated during [TS]

00:44:18   the exciting building a virtual reality [TS]

00:44:20   pc scene where there's exciting music we [TS]

00:44:23   see a lot of different products [TS]

00:44:25   including one called the Thompson iphone [TS]

00:44:27   which made me laugh but i think its eyes [TS]

00:44:30   like it goes on your eyes therein he [TS]

00:44:32   assembles this this thing he's got a [TS]

00:44:34   data gloves and he's got is because we [TS]

00:44:36   are thing is to put it all together [TS]

00:44:37   because he's gotta make this make this [TS]

00:44:40   phone call and and then we get to see [TS]

00:44:42   the EV amazing vr interface which is [TS]

00:44:45   that there's a globe that he grabs and [TS]

00:44:47   then he dials on a keypad invr pretty [TS]

00:44:50   are and then he has a phone call my [TS]

00:44:53   favorite piece of technology is the GPL [TS]

00:44:55   stealth module um you know your your [TS]

00:44:58   graphics you want to have to be as [TS]

00:45:00   stealthy as possible you want anyone to [TS]

00:45:01   detect your graphics it is it is weird [TS]

00:45:04   the way they came up with these mangled [TS]

00:45:05   sentences for these the stuff i liked [TS]

00:45:08   the scene of him building this the [TS]

00:45:11   computer out of the random stuff they [TS]

00:45:12   found in that room because it reminded [TS]

00:45:14   me of every episode of the a-team except [TS]

00:45:17   the music was as inspiring and i'm [TS]

00:45:19   usually got with the close-ups of people [TS]

00:45:21   welding things together to turn a [TS]

00:45:22   tractor into it [TS]

00:45:24   impregnable tank that shot potatoes [TS]

00:45:26   there's a weird conversation vr but if [TS]

00:45:29   there's a huge plots which is the fax [TS]

00:45:31   modem has a buffer and so some of the [TS]

00:45:34   fat thing that was facts remember the [TS]

00:45:36   facts earlier that was in fact a plot [TS]

00:45:39   point tax-related foot point maybe in [TS]

00:45:42   the buffer in newark copy shop or or [TS]

00:45:44   should I say the newark copy shop [TS]

00:45:47   because it's referred to as the copy [TS]

00:45:49   shop there's only the one is in the [TS]

00:45:51   future there you know who needs copies [TS]

00:45:54   is interaction of a hacking into the [TS]

00:45:57   hotel so that he can get this [TS]

00:45:58   information [TS]

00:45:59   he's just grabbing these these parts of [TS]

00:46:02   this triangular block and turning them [TS]

00:46:04   and that's like okay I'm unlock now it's [TS]

00:46:06   like a commonly it's like he's a he's [TS]

00:46:08   crossed safecrackers and also he's like [TS]

00:46:10   he goes to the the lobby of the virtual [TS]

00:46:12   reality of the hotel and then and and [TS]

00:46:15   then dials into well it's like you have [TS]

00:46:18   to solve a rubik's cube to hack in we [TS]

00:46:20   have [TS]

00:46:20   no idea but they didn't appear on unix [TS]

00:46:22   yeah they didn't want to make it too [TS]

00:46:24   complicated to it's like a two by two by [TS]

00:46:26   two Rubik's Cube instead it is peculiar [TS]

00:46:29   because also when he goes on to hack [TS]

00:46:30   some other stuff later on it it is just [TS]

00:46:32   just physically manipulating some things [TS]

00:46:35   a couple times and it's like okay attack [TS]

00:46:37   now it's like I don't really think that [TS]

00:46:40   that is that is a good way to do any of [TS]

00:46:42   this but a and I certainly don't think [TS]

00:46:45   it helps to communicating to the [TS]

00:46:46   audience but i guess it would have been [TS]

00:46:47   too complicated and too you know for [TS]

00:46:50   boring not this movie is afraid of doing [TS]

00:46:52   boring you know how to communicate and [TS]

00:46:54   either way of doing it i'm not going to [TS]

00:46:56   show how to really hack things it's a [TS]

00:46:58   bite block but it's in virtual reality [TS]

00:47:00   so that makes it a high-security no it's [TS]

00:47:04   just a bike lock you just turn it it [TS]

00:47:06   pops right off and then you can access [TS]

00:47:08   into the buffer zone fax machines i [TS]

00:47:10   guess this is why you have to entrust [TS]

00:47:12   your data to someone to physically walk [TS]

00:47:13   around the planet yeah it turns out this [TS]

00:47:15   fax machines have more memory in them [TS]

00:47:17   that he does ridiculous so they put a [TS]

00:47:22   virus on them [TS]

00:47:23   yeah black ice that sounds like bad news [TS]

00:47:26   yeah and and also the the cars are [TS]

00:47:28   coming to get them the acura cars their [TS]

00:47:30   electric cars apparently because they [TS]

00:47:32   dumped in a kind of high-pitched [TS]

00:47:33   electrical whine as they're coming [TS]

00:47:36   together so you can tell they're [TS]

00:47:38   electric cars it's the future because [TS]

00:47:40   the future they'll be electric cars ok [TS]

00:47:42   alright fair enough [TS]

00:47:43   good job Johnny mnemonic alright that [TS]

00:47:46   reminds me of free Jack where the other [TS]

00:47:48   to make some turistic was put some giant [TS]

00:47:51   foam stuff all over the cars and that [TS]

00:47:54   one that looks like a tank anyway I [TS]

00:47:57   would get us into free jet that also [TS]

00:48:00   movie with problems how shy but it's not [TS]

00:48:04   take Jagger's dat the AI face dead ghost [TS]

00:48:09   lady in the computer the ghost in the [TS]

00:48:10   machine says oh they're coming you've [TS]

00:48:12   got to go and warn them off and they [TS]

00:48:16   have to run away because the electric [TS]

00:48:17   cars are coming [TS]

00:48:18   this is when we're introduced to another [TS]

00:48:19   one of our key characters in the film it [TS]

00:48:23   is the hairy Jesus murderer known as [TS]

00:48:26   street preacher played by Dolph Lundgren [TS]

00:48:30   and he's great in this he is [TS]

00:48:33   I love this character it is interesting [TS]

00:48:36   too because this is apparently after he [TS]

00:48:38   had improved his english speaking [TS]

00:48:43   abilities so that he's very articulate [TS]

00:48:46   as the preacher in comparison to see you [TS]

00:48:48   know like master the university manor [TS]

00:48:50   something so E is actually a much better [TS]

00:48:54   than you would imagine Dolph Lundgren to [TS]

00:48:56   be if I were to tell you that Dolph [TS]

00:48:58   Lundgren was a murderous preacher in a [TS]

00:49:00   movie so I I like him in this [TS]

00:49:02   oh yeah he's a long way from I must [TS]

00:49:04   break you [TS]

00:49:06   well I think he's super super fun and [TS]

00:49:07   this is he is a lot of fun i would say [TS]

00:49:10   is probably the best actor in the movie [TS]

00:49:11   he legitimately seems to have some kind [TS]

00:49:14   of inner life which certainly nobody [TS]

00:49:16   else does [TS]

00:49:17   yes and he enjoys his work he has [TS]

00:49:20   motivation that he apparently kills [TS]

00:49:22   people for money so we can keep adding [TS]

00:49:24   more cyber implants to himself and keep [TS]

00:49:27   getting more and more powerful [TS]

00:49:29   yep and occasionally something about [TS]

00:49:30   Jesus that you get you got it that you [TS]

00:49:33   nailed him I owe at this point jane says [TS]

00:49:37   I know I know this guy a spider he can [TS]

00:49:42   fix your and she has the her her seizure [TS]

00:49:47   her shakes but it's a black shapes yeah [TS]

00:49:51   it's the it's the Naas I think [TS]

00:49:54   somebody's baby playing at Coachella one [TS]

00:49:56   of these years the black shape yeah [TS]

00:49:58   anything lately black shake bone and so [TS]

00:50:05   Henry Rollins going home or wait I got [TS]

00:50:07   one more [TS]

00:50:08   that was good news McHale says black [TS]

00:50:10   shakes her back haha it's just it's [TS]

00:50:14   quitting flavored you would know you've [TS]

00:50:18   attenuated my nerves now monitor and [TS]

00:50:20   Henry Rollins tries to help her [TS]

00:50:25   the ghost in the machine appears again [TS]

00:50:26   the street Street picture appears and [TS]

00:50:28   kills a guy there inside with more [TS]

00:50:31   burning trash cans which as I said [TS]

00:50:33   before is a sign of the apocalypse but [TS]

00:50:35   also not healthy on the inside to burn [TS]

00:50:38   your trash cans [TS]

00:50:39   leave that outside folks what if they're [TS]

00:50:41   weird high-tech trash that he met oxygen [TS]

00:50:43   when they're burnt no interesting we we [TS]

00:50:46   learned [TS]

00:50:47   origin of dr. all come who is maybe the [TS]

00:50:50   person that they need to find out the [TS]

00:50:52   secrets from about about Johnny's [TS]

00:50:56   implants and because they remember [TS]

00:50:58   Johnny remember that he had implants we [TS]

00:50:59   sort of forgot because there was a lot [TS]

00:51:01   of nonsense going on dr. all come it [TS]

00:51:03   turns out your spider says is actually [TS]

00:51:06   just a medical term for when they don't [TS]

00:51:08   want to freak people out when there's [TS]

00:51:09   something incredibly difficult and scary [TS]

00:51:11   happening at the hospital they'll page [TS]

00:51:13   dr. all come which means everybody needs [TS]

00:51:16   to come because something bad just [TS]

00:51:17   happened so that was a nice little bit [TS]

00:51:19   of medical trivia [TS]

00:51:22   thanks Henry Rollins somebody writing [TS]

00:51:25   the script had the United 95 equivalent [TS]

00:51:28   of wikipedia encarta sure and said oh I [TS]

00:51:32   gotta work this into my next movie by [TS]

00:51:34   whatever means necessary [TS]

00:51:36   there's there's some trust issues [TS]

00:51:38   between ken Reeves and entering ones [TS]

00:51:42   especially this is your moral dilemma of [TS]

00:51:43   the movie really which is that what [TS]

00:51:46   Henry Rollins basically says look you've [TS]

00:51:47   got the cure for naas in there that's [TS]

00:51:50   what this is this company with their [TS]

00:51:53   with their fake tower pharma com they [TS]

00:51:56   have found the cure but they don't want [TS]

00:51:58   to save anybody with it because they're [TS]

00:52:00   havin they're making too much money from [TS]

00:52:02   their various drugs and so this is the [TS]

00:52:05   way where the corporations are screwing [TS]

00:52:06   the little guy we can get it out we're [TS]

00:52:10   rip your your uh your implants out and [TS]

00:52:12   get the Cure out but you will maybe not [TS]

00:52:15   die but you'll have some you know you [TS]

00:52:18   have no long-term memory and probably [TS]

00:52:19   some problems with your movement but uh [TS]

00:52:22   but hey you'll save millions of people [TS]

00:52:25   and you're probably gonna die regardless [TS]

00:52:26   of what happens [TS]

00:52:28   so what do you say and then this is it [TS]

00:52:31   this is the moral dilemma for Johnny I [TS]

00:52:34   guess which is you know does he let them [TS]

00:52:36   you know crippled him or kill him in [TS]

00:52:38   exchange for the secure which i think [TS]

00:52:40   basically never gets resolved because [TS]

00:52:43   Harry Jesus murder Dolph Lundgren [TS]

00:52:46   attacks them and then it doesn't matter [TS]

00:52:48   but I thought that was an interesting [TS]

00:52:49   attempt to have at least some sort of [TS]

00:52:52   moral dilemma for Johnny yeah and he's [TS]

00:52:56   got to be selfless not that was ever [TS]

00:52:58   into that being [TS]

00:52:59   an issue before this I guess strongly [TS]

00:53:03   now is like ma like Monty said he has is [TS]

00:53:06   his break down shortly after this where [TS]

00:53:08   has all this responsibility that he [TS]

00:53:09   didn't want to have to deal with when [TS]

00:53:11   they take spiders dump truck thing and [TS]

00:53:14   go over to heaven and the the E he gets [TS]

00:53:20   very frustrated and lays it all out [TS]

00:53:22   there all this pent-up rage that he has [TS]

00:53:25   about room service etc that Monty [TS]

00:53:27   discussed and so it was sort of strange [TS]

00:53:30   that the dilemma isn't as tethered to [TS]

00:53:34   the rest of the things that you know [TS]

00:53:36   it's not like he's been selling people [TS]

00:53:39   out the whole entire time that we've [TS]

00:53:41   seen on screen because we've only seen [TS]

00:53:43   this one transaction right yeah he's [TS]

00:53:45   purposely enigmatic to us is his name is [TS]

00:53:48   Johnny he doesn't even have a last name [TS]

00:53:51   and he doesn't remember but to this past [TS]

00:53:54   so I felt like they were purposely [TS]

00:53:55   saying he's nobody [TS]

00:53:58   and then all of a sudden he has to make [TS]

00:54:01   a decision that has nothing to do with [TS]

00:54:02   him and it seems like bad mood because [TS]

00:54:05   you do you think made you think that yes [TS]

00:54:08   as surprised maybe a little bit uh oh [TS]

00:54:12   Dolph Lundgren attacks they run they [TS]

00:54:15   want to set up a meet to baby again [TS]

00:54:17   still trying hoping against hope that [TS]

00:54:19   there's going to be a way out of this [TS]

00:54:20   turns out though that he's not talking [TS]

00:54:21   to real person he's talking to a puppet [TS]

00:54:23   being controlled by a virtual reality [TS]

00:54:26   they a fake person he's talking to [TS]

00:54:29   it's happened to all of us the ghost [TS]

00:54:31   machine appears again and bugs takahashi [TS]

00:54:34   about about doing the right thing and [TS]

00:54:37   his and his daughter i think at this [TS]

00:54:39   point and then we get to the scene that [TS]

00:54:42   makes the movie if you thought the movie [TS]

00:54:44   was slow before it stops the movie [TS]

00:54:46   gentleman's tracks which is the action [TS]

00:54:49   set piece where they try to get up into [TS]

00:54:51   the bridge which is being patrolled by a [TS]

00:54:53   couple of idiots [TS]

00:54:55   it's the comic relief because it's been [TS]

00:54:59   so tense and dramatic up until now we [TS]

00:55:01   need these dopes there was neither [TS]

00:55:03   comedy no relief that occurred in the [TS]

00:55:05   scene III there there that there is an [TS]

00:55:09   idiot the bridge speaking things we can [TS]

00:55:11   I can't even understand [TS]

00:55:12   and they are looking down at are our [TS]

00:55:16   heroes who are down below at one point [TS]

00:55:19   there's a mistake and they drop a car on [TS]

00:55:24   the van but they came over in and blow [TS]

00:55:27   it up which should mean something and [TS]

00:55:29   doesn't it doesn't mean they just sort [TS]

00:55:32   of sets up the the fact that they have [TS]

00:55:34   some sort of defensive measure where [TS]

00:55:36   they can drop this car which they use [TS]

00:55:38   one other time after this there's [TS]

00:55:40   another car exactly like this car that [TS]

00:55:42   also blows things up i did like that [TS]

00:55:44   Jane was just standing there kind of [TS]

00:55:45   staring off into the distance and Johnny [TS]

00:55:48   had to come save her from that she's his [TS]

00:55:50   bodyguard and she did not notice the [TS]

00:55:54   flaming VW Bug plummeting from the sky [TS]

00:55:56   I don't know how much of it has to do [TS]

00:55:58   with the way they decided to make the [TS]

00:56:00   film i'm assuming that in the short [TS]

00:56:02   story she was a she was much more of the [TS]

00:56:05   person protecting him then is featured [TS]

00:56:07   here because it seems almost like this [TS]

00:56:09   is the sort of your traditional latino [TS]

00:56:11   guy has to protect the girl even though [TS]

00:56:13   she's supposed to be a ridiculously [TS]

00:56:15   awesome person you can do anything [TS]

00:56:17   yeah and yeah yeah weird thats that's [TS]

00:56:20   exactly right then iced tea comes down [TS]

00:56:23   his little platform yeah it comes to get [TS]

00:56:24   them we we have we do have a moment in [TS]

00:56:26   here where Johnny this is this is the [TS]

00:56:29   more I find it very bizarre that we're [TS]

00:56:31   suddenly supposed to sort of I Jenna [TS]

00:56:32   identify with johnny is a person right [TS]

00:56:34   because this is where he says now I'm [TS]

00:56:35   responsible for the whole world he rants [TS]

00:56:38   about wanting laundered shirts or [TS]

00:56:41   hookers [TS]

00:56:42   ok always laundry your hooker shoes [TS]

00:56:46   that's right you don't know where [TS]

00:56:49   they've been tip your shirts in to them [TS]

00:56:51   so yeah so I see comes down to get them [TS]

00:56:55   he's wearing like ski goggles I I [TS]

00:56:56   thought that was a good look for him now [TS]

00:56:59   I felt like this might i I can't defend [TS]

00:57:02   this but I felt like this maybe wasn't [TS]

00:57:04   supposed to be iced tea or one of the [TS]

00:57:08   earlier Henry Rollins is wasn't supposed [TS]

00:57:10   to be Henry Rollins this is the third [TS]

00:57:12   time we run into ice tea and we went [TS]

00:57:15   running ran into Henry Rollins a couple [TS]

00:57:17   times yes and I don't know it just like [TS]

00:57:21   I didn't have enough characters [TS]

00:57:24   like why is this the same guy he ran [TS]

00:57:26   into twice before because we paid money [TS]

00:57:29   for a skipper is it's also weird because [TS]

00:57:33   it seems like every time they meet [TS]

00:57:35   it's like the first time they've ever [TS]

00:57:37   met yeah there's a lot of who's this guy [TS]

00:57:40   well you just saw that cut out all of [TS]

00:57:42   the previous ice-t scenes in this film [TS]

00:57:44   and it's just been this introduction [TS]

00:57:46   here it would play exactly the same [TS]

00:57:48   which is which is very peculiar in terms [TS]

00:57:51   of like the with a chose to do with this [TS]

00:57:53   and also if you cut out all the other [TS]

00:57:55   seen step for the low-tech thing you'd [TS]

00:57:57   be like oh LOL a nicety cameo that has [TS]

00:57:59   nothing to do with anything but he's [TS]

00:58:00   here and then he's gone and it had [TS]

00:58:01   nothing to do with anything and then the [TS]

00:58:03   very beginning same thing I have no idea [TS]

00:58:05   why they chose to make it so that it [TS]

00:58:09   doesn't build at all to anything and so [TS]

00:58:12   is a maybe they were just like I don't [TS]

00:58:13   know if the scene is gonna work so we [TS]

00:58:14   better construct every time we meet him [TS]

00:58:16   so that it's just we can be exercised or [TS]

00:58:19   something it is very peculiar maybe he [TS]

00:58:21   just has bad short-term memory [TS]

00:58:23   yeah well he has memory problems like [TS]

00:58:25   shakes uh Johnny almost has a memory of [TS]

00:58:28   his childhood here he and Gina almost [TS]

00:58:32   kiss in and totally honored way but then [TS]

00:58:34   they don't you just summed up the [TS]

00:58:37   remains of the day [TS]

00:58:38   yeah haha inside this place and also [TS]

00:58:43   this is very much like the remains of [TS]

00:58:45   the day inside the ICU check place they [TS]

00:58:47   have a bunch of tvs oh I love this set [TS]

00:58:50   design it's just a million TVs a million [TS]

00:58:53   tvs that reminds me Monty of a a public [TS]

00:58:57   art project you'd see at UC San Diego [TS]

00:58:59   oh and I'm serious this this is very [TS]

00:59:02   nostalgic for when a million TVs [TS]

00:59:04   everywhere was a thing you could do like [TS]

00:59:06   you're putting on your low budget play [TS]

00:59:09   what we do for the set million tvs are [TS]

00:59:13   wired together so that they are like a [TS]

00:59:14   color or something [TS]

00:59:16   yeah yeah so they've got that and then [TS]

00:59:18   but I ste explains know whether the [TS]

00:59:20   video comes in and then we remix it and [TS]

00:59:23   then we and we like extracted and then [TS]

00:59:25   we provide broadcast it out and in lots [TS]

00:59:27   of other junk that he says here because [TS]

00:59:29   it's like super cool man [TS]

00:59:31   which I kept thinking that the plot was [TS]

00:59:34   going to be that since they were [TS]

00:59:35   recording the three images to unlock his [TS]

00:59:38   memory at a loss of the television that [TS]

00:59:41   if they got one of the images they could [TS]

00:59:43   know when it they could figure out like [TS]

00:59:44   when it aired and what the other [TS]

00:59:46   channels were and they could figure out [TS]

00:59:47   how to unlock the code that totally [TS]

00:59:49   didn't you you're being too smart to one [TS]

00:59:51   way to go [TS]

00:59:52   I I think he's just like rebroadcasting [TS]

00:59:55   all the law and order and and Special [TS]

00:59:57   Victims Unit episodes over and over [TS]

00:59:59   again [TS]

00:59:59   again [TS]

01:00:00   that's what from the future yeah we have [TS]

01:00:02   it but it's the movies past ok maybe you [TS]

01:00:04   know there's a totally sane rational [TS]

01:00:06   explanation for why they don't do any of [TS]

01:00:08   that Jason and that is because they have [TS]

01:00:10   a navy operative who is very Jones [TS]

01:00:14   specifically trained in dealing with the [TS]

01:00:16   sort of stuff in dealing with a criminal [TS]

01:00:18   and and it's it's a cyborg dolphin it's [TS]

01:00:21   it is and are with no major friend that [TS]

01:00:29   is my last note of the movie that's 100 [TS]

01:00:36   yes Jones is a dolphin and with with [TS]

01:00:40   cyborg kind of parts they attach Johnny [TS]

01:00:44   to the virtual reality the Yakuza those [TS]

01:00:46   guys never give up [TS]

01:00:48   they attack my notes say fights comma [TS]

01:00:51   nonsense it is directed so poorly [TS]

01:00:55   you have no idea what hang and the [TS]

01:00:57   matrix that people are dressed like [TS]

01:00:59   they're in the matrix there's guys in [TS]

01:01:01   cool black trench coats there fighting [TS]

01:01:02   Keanu Reeves and man is a terrible it's [TS]

01:01:06   terrible and boring and nonsensical the [TS]

01:01:08   ghost in the machine appears again and [TS]

01:01:11   tells Takashi that his daughter died of [TS]

01:01:13   the disease he needs to he needs to make [TS]

01:01:16   a difference now he gets shot [TS]

01:01:18   there's more shooting there they hang [TS]

01:01:21   that one point they're being chased and [TS]

01:01:23   they end up it is like trap door goes [TS]

01:01:25   open and they're hanging over the water [TS]

01:01:28   under the bridge but the the model of [TS]

01:01:31   the monofilament cable cuts the the the [TS]

01:01:35   bad guy so they're they're saved but oh [TS]

01:01:39   the preacher street preachers there and [TS]

01:01:43   he's got he's got Jane and Takashi has [TS]

01:01:47   been shot as we saw before but he has [TS]

01:01:51   the second photo and he said about his [TS]

01:01:53   dead daughter who died of the horrible [TS]

01:01:55   disease and then I have a line that i [TS]

01:01:58   believe i've never written before which [TS]

01:02:00   is dolphins apps him very slowly but [TS]

01:02:04   this is literally at we we are led to [TS]

01:02:06   believe that their that since the street [TS]

01:02:09   preachers there things are are in dire [TS]

01:02:11   straits and then [TS]

01:02:13   are they going to get out of this and [TS]

01:02:14   what happens is very very very slowly [TS]

01:02:17   they maneuver the dolphin and Keanu [TS]

01:02:20   Reeves so that the dolphin can use his [TS]

01:02:22   sonic wave power amplified through an [TS]

01:02:26   antenna to microwave the street preacher [TS]

01:02:29   basically but it's so slow it is the it [TS]

01:02:33   is it is the opposite of action it is [TS]

01:02:36   just very very methodically this happen [TS]

01:02:39   for a long stretch of time before [TS]

01:02:41   finally Dolph Lundgren burst into flames [TS]

01:02:45   and is in like 20 seconds is just a [TS]

01:02:47   desiccated microwave corpse on the [TS]

01:02:49   ground [TS]

01:02:50   I thought it was a magnet not a [TS]

01:02:51   microwave like I thought it was pulling [TS]

01:02:53   his nanotechnology out of it I that [TS]

01:02:56   could be why don't i don't know that [TS]

01:02:58   would have been more into amplified [TS]

01:02:59   dolphin waves though that are doing it [TS]

01:03:02   as far as i can tell that doesn't make [TS]

01:03:04   the microwaves anymore that makes it is [TS]

01:03:06   microwave scientifically sound as [TS]

01:03:08   microwaves because of the transmitter [TS]

01:03:09   was a microtransmitter but i might be [TS]

01:03:12   wrong all of us may be wrong because [TS]

01:03:14   it's really technically making me sad [TS]

01:03:16   situation like a very strong very low [TS]

01:03:18   wattage microwave he slowly gets burned [TS]

01:03:20   on the outside and presumably is frozen [TS]

01:03:22   on the inside and and and he calls / [TS]

01:03:25   just microwave or so sorry with them we [TS]

01:03:29   don't feel ya anyway maybe that is have [TS]

01:03:31   microwaves working hard and trying to [TS]

01:03:33   microwave like one of those frozen [TS]

01:03:35   burritos they didn't exactly hate evenly [TS]

01:03:38   are you saying street preacher was [TS]

01:03:40   frozen on the inside to begin with [TS]

01:03:42   maybe that's why he needed obviously [TS]

01:03:44   metaphorically yeah I'm saying he was a [TS]

01:03:46   burrito [TS]

01:03:47   ok microwaves don't freeze things on the [TS]

01:03:49   inside they start for you and then [TS]

01:03:50   anyways just what the major third the [TS]

01:03:53   third image it turns out the third image [TS]

01:03:55   they've been looking for its in the data [TS]

01:03:57   is that great [TS]

01:03:58   it's in the data they didn't need to get [TS]

01:04:00   to third image after all and I think I [TS]

01:04:03   stay at this point declares to everybody [TS]

01:04:05   hey everyone out there because they're [TS]

01:04:07   gonna broadcast the cure to everyone he [TS]

01:04:09   says get your VCR is ready [TS]

01:04:11   yeah so what that means is we know that [TS]

01:04:14   the thing that was recorded inside [TS]

01:04:16   Johnny's head was a video file of some [TS]

01:04:19   sort not a high-quality one we see some [TS]

01:04:22   of it and does look like it's from DHS [TS]

01:04:24   yeah 320 gigabytes [TS]

01:04:26   which means these people are going to be [TS]

01:04:27   watching it for a long long time [TS]

01:04:30   I think they're taking all the data and [TS]

01:04:31   they're just outputting it is a on the [TS]

01:04:33   video signal in order to get it into the [TS]

01:04:35   world using the means that they've got [TS]

01:04:38   well you'd like to think that but we see [TS]

01:04:39   the start of the transmission it says [TS]

01:04:41   like video pharma com data [TS]

01:04:43   ok maybe maybe they're referring to your [TS]

01:04:45   data VCRs from the future [TS]

01:04:48   o Sole o this transmission does make a [TS]

01:04:51   building catch on fire so it's not it's [TS]

01:04:54   not worried about it immediately [TS]

01:04:57   it does not broadcast to get the [TS]

01:04:59   building sketch it's actually like that [TS]

01:05:00   the the pokemon episode that caused [TS]

01:05:02   seizures this it's that kind of so what [TS]

01:05:04   happens is and I'm gonna let me explain [TS]

01:05:06   that sense that a wire up Keanu he's [TS]

01:05:09   gonna download the stuff out of his [TS]

01:05:12   implants and and transmitted that's what [TS]

01:05:14   they're going to do so it's going to be [TS]

01:05:15   are the highlight and Monty this is [TS]

01:05:18   about when my notes see the highlight is [TS]

01:05:21   not just did they have a cipher dolphin [TS]

01:05:23   a tank but when he goes into VR and is [TS]

01:05:26   struggling to hack things in order to [TS]

01:05:28   get out his his uh his his data from his [TS]

01:05:31   implants [TS]

01:05:32   yes hes hacking his own brain he is [TS]

01:05:34   aided by AVR dolphin because the dolphin [TS]

01:05:38   is also in VR and when there's a little [TS]

01:05:41   3d dolphin who appears at several points [TS]

01:05:43   like a level of a video game by 1995 [TS]

01:05:47   because of mud and mux people understood [TS]

01:05:49   that when you're online you could have [TS]

01:05:52   any avatar you want but the dolphin [TS]

01:05:56   didn't be on the internet no one knows [TS]

01:05:58   you're a dolphin that's that had a lion [TS]

01:06:00   or something [TS]

01:06:01   so the download proceeds Johnny's [TS]

01:06:03   memories are starting to come back to [TS]

01:06:06   him as well thank goodness i was really [TS]

01:06:07   worried about Johnny as a human being in [TS]

01:06:09   a character I don't remember that all is [TS]

01:06:14   where i watch this movie I don't [TS]

01:06:15   remember anything about him whining [TS]

01:06:17   about that remember all literally all it [TS]

01:06:19   is is oh I don't have any childhood [TS]

01:06:20   memories and there's a flash of a [TS]

01:06:22   childhood memory of him like with a [TS]

01:06:23   birthday cake of happy birthday Johnny [TS]

01:06:25   and then later he's like oh yeah my [TS]

01:06:28   birthday party now you've got money [TS]

01:06:30   that's the whole story are right there [TS]

01:06:31   like 30 i like that but what happens [TS]

01:06:34   while the MIT Johnny's memories are [TS]

01:06:36   being downloaded yes the the frilly [TS]

01:06:40   faked [TS]

01:06:40   our that Joe mentioned earlier just [TS]

01:06:42   burst into flames pharma com tower [TS]

01:06:44   catches on fire because of data exports [TS]

01:06:50   I don't really understand which I would [TS]

01:06:53   like to think was chose favorite moments [TS]

01:06:55   in the list not a joke how do you feel [TS]

01:06:57   at all like what what was your favorite [TS]

01:07:01   moment is so many hard to pick [TS]

01:07:03   I i holding the hand still actually be [TS]

01:07:07   my favorite moment from from even being [TS]

01:07:09   serious about the yeah this is a tower [TS]

01:07:12   catching on fire does nothing for me [TS]

01:07:14   because I thought oh they maybe they [TS]

01:07:16   they made this model because they're [TS]

01:07:17   gonna blow it up [TS]

01:07:18   they didn't even have the guts to blow [TS]

01:07:21   up the model i guess maybe they're like [TS]

01:07:22   what if you have to reshoot this model [TS]

01:07:24   we better only slightly set it on fire [TS]

01:07:26   it doesn't Wilson jide a widow [TS]

01:07:30   it totally least yeah yeah so it's [TS]

01:07:35   payback time [TS]

01:07:37   there's a line that happens here and [TS]

01:07:39   then um and then what happens is we get [TS]

01:07:41   exactly what we wanted the payoff for [TS]

01:07:44   this movie that we wanted which is [TS]

01:07:45   johnny and Jane standing in front of a [TS]

01:07:49   green screen with the fiery tower faked [TS]

01:07:53   our madden behind them look at each [TS]

01:07:56   other meaningfully and once again don't [TS]

01:07:59   really kiss and that's the end haha yay [TS]

01:08:07   they're free we're free uh so my last [TS]

01:08:12   let this is where i wrote after this [TS]

01:08:13   movie finished and we got that point i [TS]

01:08:15   wrote I wrote my last note and i'm just [TS]

01:08:18   going to read it verbatim now what the [TS]

01:08:22   actual haha oh can we curse [TS]

01:08:27   only I can curse Monty no go ahead i [TS]

01:08:29   believe it at all it's all bleep being [TS]

01:08:31   bleeped well since every other word in [TS]

01:08:33   the damn movie was fucking but many of [TS]

01:08:36   my notes contain the phrase super the [TS]

01:08:42   virtual reality the special effects the [TS]

01:08:44   dialogue hug you know we seem to bad [TS]

01:08:46   movies where I thought oh this got away [TS]

01:08:49   from them but at least it's it's danny [TS]

01:08:51   and wacky or or what were they thinking [TS]

01:08:53   this this is like I I don't understand [TS]

01:08:57   how this could have been made [TS]

01:08:59   I i really am baffled by it is it is [TS]

01:09:02   it's not like a cool cat where it's [TS]

01:09:05   somebody who doesn't seem to have seen [TS]

01:09:07   any movies before but it is in hit does [TS]

01:09:10   really feel like a movie directed by a [TS]

01:09:12   sculptor there's even like basic stuff [TS]

01:09:16   withheld they made this worse like the [TS]

01:09:17   execution is completely absent from this [TS]

01:09:20   leo says not even like people executing [TS]

01:09:23   well on a poor idea or people that have [TS]

01:09:26   a great idea that's executed poorly it [TS]

01:09:28   is just checking all the boxes at doing [TS]

01:09:31   is bad [TS]

01:09:33   what up across the board so I I don't [TS]

01:09:36   understand like if you were the director [TS]

01:09:38   and this is the first time directing [TS]

01:09:40   maybe you were just scared to give the [TS]

01:09:41   actors direction or something because i [TS]

01:09:43   can't imagine them turning in these [TS]

01:09:45   performances otherwise and like you said [TS]

01:09:48   you know [TS]

01:09:49   dina meyer and Dolph Lundgren highlights [TS]

01:09:51   of the acting in this film [TS]

01:09:53   Keanu Reeves horrible and you know he's [TS]

01:09:57   gone on to do much better things than [TS]

01:09:59   this and I I a just a can't fathom what [TS]

01:10:04   this is other than the direction is most [TS]

01:10:05   just not be there [TS]

01:10:06   he's his he had directed music videos so [TS]

01:10:09   it's not like he's totally inept but you [TS]

01:10:11   know it's a different muscle flexing [TS]

01:10:14   their but yeah the acting isn't is just [TS]

01:10:18   nothing nothing works and there are [TS]

01:10:20   several points in the movie I mean [TS]

01:10:21   there's the one where early on where the [TS]

01:10:24   the two of them are getting 1 speaking [TS]

01:10:26   in vegas Japanese and the other speaking [TS]

01:10:28   English back and forth and and it just [TS]

01:10:30   cuts between two identical headshots [TS]

01:10:34   yeah and it never changes and there's no [TS]

01:10:37   there's nothing visually interesting [TS]

01:10:39   about it there is no point for it to be [TS]

01:10:42   this close [TS]

01:10:43   there's no longshots there's no two [TS]

01:10:45   shots it's just back forth back forth [TS]

01:10:47   it's like pong like what what are you [TS]

01:10:49   doing and there's a pong I would have [TS]

01:10:51   liked to see Pauline this I would [TS]

01:10:53   totally avoidable pong is a little more [TS]

01:10:57   technologically advanced by this point [TS]

01:10:58   in kino reaches career he had been in [TS]

01:11:00   good movies like he got his head i mean [TS]

01:11:02   dangerous liaisons is a fantastic movie [TS]

01:11:05   even if he's terrible in it he does [TS]

01:11:06   my own private idaho and speed he was in [TS]

01:11:10   speed it was a big hess yeah the year [TS]

01:11:12   and more and then he just lost [TS]

01:11:15   everything it's weird and I mean you can [TS]

01:11:17   tell there i mean i remember the whole [TS]

01:11:20   marketing push and all the synergy right [TS]

01:11:23   in the lasso need my energy and the TV [TS]

01:11:26   tie-in novelization and this then [TS]

01:11:28   descript you could buy the scripts and [TS]

01:11:30   realization of this and you could get TV [TS]

01:11:34   t-shirts and hats and hack your own [TS]

01:11:37   brain i actually am i think i mentioned [TS]

01:11:39   at the beginning I want to get back to [TS]

01:11:40   44 years later the matrix came out and [TS]

01:11:43   and there are some things these movies [TS]

01:11:47   have in common and and I think it goes [TS]

01:11:49   to show how I you know this this is just [TS]

01:11:54   like what not to do this is the left [TS]

01:11:56   turn and that's the right turn that [TS]

01:11:58   there that there are so many things that [TS]

01:12:00   in terms of every aspect of this [TS]

01:12:02   production that are done well in the [TS]

01:12:05   matrix and and poorly in Johnny mnemonic [TS]

01:12:07   and Keanu Reeves is a good example of [TS]

01:12:09   that where his character is is not that [TS]

01:12:12   different in some ways between the two [TS]

01:12:14   movies and yet and Keanu Reeves you know [TS]

01:12:17   he's alive he has a limited actor okay [TS]

01:12:20   yeah he can be deployed well and in this [TS]

01:12:23   movie [TS]

01:12:24   he is he is left to drown by the [TS]

01:12:28   director [TS]

01:12:28   yeah and i mean it's it's so weird that [TS]

01:12:31   there are only four years apart too [TS]

01:12:33   because I mean it's like you said about [TS]

01:12:35   Max Headroom feeling more advanced even [TS]

01:12:38   that was 9 years earlier and and this [TS]

01:12:41   feels like a late seventies early [TS]

01:12:44   eighties take on what will the computers [TS]

01:12:48   be like right [TS]

01:12:49   it reminded me a lot of that that [TS]

01:12:51   overdrawn at the memory bank film with [TS]

01:12:54   another no oh yes it is that the MST did [TS]

01:12:57   but it is the same kind of like here's [TS]

01:12:59   what virtual reality will be like and [TS]

01:13:01   it's now home [TS]

01:13:03   well this is a your fault Joe because [TS]

01:13:07   you listen I i compiled a list of things [TS]

01:13:11   and I seem to recall that they were very [TS]

01:13:13   many people who were like yes I totally [TS]

01:13:15   want to do that and I i totally would i [TS]

01:13:17   I've never side never seen it before and [TS]

01:13:19   I've read all [TS]

01:13:20   of william gibson's novels and i was [TS]

01:13:22   very interested in how wrong it could be [TS]

01:13:24   and it is [TS]

01:13:25   yeah it is it is banned all phases it is [TS]

01:13:28   it's it's there are some ideas in here [TS]

01:13:30   but even they are so poorly i don't know [TS]

01:13:33   what I expect I expected something kind [TS]

01:13:36   of incompetently done where I things [TS]

01:13:40   that you know they they tried really [TS]

01:13:42   hard to be something more and it just [TS]

01:13:45   fell apart and and yet watching it I [TS]

01:13:48   didn't feel like that at all I felt like [TS]

01:13:49   it was kind of sluggish and lazy and and [TS]

01:13:53   and pulling on the tropes of cyberpunk [TS]

01:13:55   but never really getting what made [TS]

01:13:59   cyberpunk stuff great across and maybe [TS]

01:14:03   that has to do with I mean look you've [TS]

01:14:04   got a screenplay written by a novelist [TS]

01:14:07   and directed at a film directed by a [TS]

01:14:10   sculptor Scott you know he's Jason you [TS]

01:14:13   hate the accident while the actors are [TS]

01:14:16   dentists the set designers were floor [TS]

01:14:19   well what if what if the edges are [TS]

01:14:20   actors are claiming matagi fer ya one of [TS]

01:14:23   the actresses rock musician the [TS]

01:14:25   cinematographer is it off apologist it [TS]

01:14:28   just goes on and on and on with people [TS]

01:14:30   not doing their jobs that's you're [TS]

01:14:32   exactly right that it feels like someone [TS]

01:14:34   taking those troops it feels like a lazy [TS]

01:14:37   ripoff of William Gibbs I know what [TS]

01:14:39   that's the baffling thing about him [TS]

01:14:40   being to a screenplay grab it like the [TS]

01:14:44   few good things that are in it are [TS]

01:14:46   clearly it's like oh yeah thats I [TS]

01:14:47   remember that from the story or I [TS]

01:14:48   remember that from just Gibson himself [TS]

01:14:50   or just general cyberpunk and then it's [TS]

01:14:53   as if it was put together by monkeys [TS]

01:14:55   after the fact that yet [TS]

01:14:56   well I honestly kind of enjoy ice tea in [TS]

01:14:59   this just because he's so close to his [TS]

01:15:01   performance in tank girl which is a [TS]

01:15:03   movie that makes less sense but is a ton [TS]

01:15:06   more fun [TS]

01:15:07   yeah I think that's also one of those [TS]

01:15:08   things where I also haven't seen this [TS]

01:15:10   before even though I just make sure i'll [TS]

01:15:11   talk about it because it is fascinating [TS]

01:15:13   but the the the thing was I thought that [TS]

01:15:16   it would be more of a point and laugh at [TS]

01:15:19   kind of like look look look at this and [TS]

01:15:22   this is hilarious and this is fun and [TS]

01:15:24   they did some sort of self-awareness [TS]

01:15:26   perhaps but there is there is none of [TS]

01:15:28   that there [TS]

01:15:29   is there is no reaching for the stars to [TS]

01:15:31   to make a great movie and falling short [TS]

01:15:34   there is no you know a attempt at poking [TS]

01:15:38   fun at their own inability to deliver on [TS]

01:15:40   the budget they have because they had a [TS]

01:15:42   lot of money and in it just went up [TS]

01:15:45   being this much that it I don't fight [TS]

01:15:49   the feeling at all [TS]

01:15:50   yeah shame and as it as a fan of Max [TS]

01:15:56   Headroom which was you know which is a [TS]

01:15:57   very cyberpunk TV show [TS]

01:16:00   I you know I I was baffled by this [TS]

01:16:03   because like oh there's so many things [TS]

01:16:04   that they could have done that they [TS]

01:16:06   didn't do instead it's just some cheesy [TS]

01:16:08   you know some cheesy 3d you know effects [TS]

01:16:12   of the of the VR world and even the VR [TS]

01:16:15   stuff is not that interesting now and [TS]

01:16:17   that was a sony pictures imageworks was [TS]

01:16:20   doing that I which was not they were [TS]

01:16:23   just starting out at the time in 1995 [TS]

01:16:25   like they think it was just like Stuart [TS]

01:16:26   Little and like this i think but they [TS]

01:16:30   this is not the height of their game and [TS]

01:16:34   it is very clearly something that just [TS]

01:16:36   looks like Lawnmower Man and in many [TS]

01:16:41   ways sort of just as a cleaned-up more [TS]

01:16:44   polished version of what lon Moore man [TS]

01:16:46   was which I don't think anybody was like [TS]

01:16:49   I want more of that even in nineteen [TS]

01:16:51   alive and to put this movie and cut like [TS]

01:16:53   film history context it's the same year [TS]

01:16:55   as strange days which is a much better [TS]

01:16:58   cyberpunk movie [TS]

01:16:59   yep it's also the same year as pulp [TS]

01:17:01   fiction which seems he comes from a [TS]

01:17:04   completely different universe home [TS]

01:17:07   alright well we did everybody what do we [TS]

01:17:11   do I don't know but we did it we got [TS]

01:17:13   through Johnny mnemonic Johnny mirana ah [TS]

01:17:20   David Laura thanks for being here I [TS]

01:17:22   having suffered through kool Kat twice [TS]

01:17:25   i'm i'm just happy I was here for this i [TS]

01:17:27   think uh huh yeah joe rosenstiel thank [TS]

01:17:31   you i guess for suggesting that we watch [TS]

01:17:34   this [TS]

01:17:35   I don't don't don't put this on me you [TS]

01:17:37   all agreed to it MooMoo boo-boo we would [TS]

01:17:42   have forgotten it out and Monty Ashley I [TS]

01:17:44   want you to do something for me say by [TS]

01:17:46   jason I'm a dead man if I don't get this [TS]

01:17:50   out of my head and to everybody out [TS]

01:17:53   there all i have to say is get your VCRs [TS]

01:17:56   ready the broadcast will commence [TS]

01:17:58   momentarily [TS]

01:17:59   thanks for listening to rocket surgery [TS]

01:18:01   we will see you next time [TS]

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