Roderick on the Line

01:00:00 ◼   ► they're the strokes their songs all [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► sound like the stroke you sure you write [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► the intro Interpol their songs all sound [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► like and but wouldn't those songs come [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► on you're like hey that's got to be the [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► new Interpol song whereas the long [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► winter's music all sounds like who the [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► fuck knows right I mean the only thing [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► we don't have a ska song there's a [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► there's an everything it's an everything [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► everything sound and that if you're [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► trying to make a band popular is a bad [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► strategy I mean the mountain goats every [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► song sounds like the mountain goats yeah [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► you're never gonna listen to a mountain [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► goat song and go wow is this like is [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► this some kind of orc pop is this the [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► Smashing Pumpkins so it's a it was a bad [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► what I never did and this is the other [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► thing right I'd had a lot of these mixed [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► ideas like I looked at somebody like Ted [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► Leo and I admired the fact that he [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► stayed true to his school but my school [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► was touch her own hair my school was not [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► be like sound like your influences it [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► was cut your own hair and so right [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► before every single photo shoot that we [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► took I cut my own hair which means that [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► every photo of us I looked terrible [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► as I did it I thought that people would [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► look at the pictures and they would [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► identify a kind of truth about me like [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► oh that guy is true but people don't [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► look at it and say that they say why is [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► he did I mean why does he have that [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► haircut yeah that's a terrible haircut [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► and so what I thought I was [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► communicating like I thought I was [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► communicating in the song cinnamon this [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► whole story about the baader-meinhof [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► gang but I didn't give any evidence of [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► it right and so I'm cutting my own hair [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► before every photo shoot because I [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► believe in the principle but the prints [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► Paul does not convey see what you're [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► saying [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► people couldn't look at you and know [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► that you're a vegan no do you know [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► similarly like there's something there's [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► something in your cred or know that your [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► straightedge [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► they couldn't like look at you and be [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► able to glean let you have a big ax on [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► your hand right well and the thing about [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► Ted is that he had a big V for vegan on [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► his shirt and he talked about it in [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► every interview and what I had was like [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► you know I had a suit like the Riddler [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► cover with question marks every single [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► tour it was like this tour I'm wearing a [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► striped tie and I look like I'm in the [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► Decembrists and this tour I'm wearing a [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► gold leotard top hats for everybody [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► I started out one tour at where I was [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► like I'm just gonna wear this tracksuit [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► through the whole tool all three of my [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► band mates were like when are you gonna [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► change out of your pajamas and I said [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► it's very comfortable but like what I [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► you know I looked like I was in the [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► happy Monday so there was no consistency [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► and it was all it was all in my head [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► that I was doing something though that [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► people were gonna pick up on but what I [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► was really doing was this like it's just [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► this eclecticism that all people picked [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► up on was wait is that the guy from LCD [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► Soundsystem except he is except he's [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► wearing like loafers and a bowler like [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► that doesn't he's dressed like Clockwork [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► Orange and it doesn't make any sense and [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► that and that's I think true in them in [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► the songs too like I every song I just I [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► started completely fresh as like a new [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► experiment which I thought was a great [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► premise but when you listen to the [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► records you're like to never know what's [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► coming next what's coming next is the [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► baseline gonna be played on a tambourine [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► like don't know so what from that is to [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► be gleaned [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► because there's a lot of angles to that [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► yeah no no I mean if you're saying like [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► there's a lot of 1:1 angle is you you [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► thought you were going for something and [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► it didn't come across another could be a [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► lesson for the youths right about about [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► how to how to do your thing mm-hmm do [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► you feel that part of the success of [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► other bands is owed to the fact that [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► they didn't do stuff like cut their hair [TS]

01:04:54 ◼   ► before a photo shoot they went and got [TS]

01:04:56 ◼   ► it professionally cut at great expense [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► and socially cut by a professional and [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► and told the person will you cut my hair [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► so that I look cool they probably [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► brought in a picture of somebody and [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► said this can you make me look like Ron [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► Wood in 1972 [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► sure and you know and I was sitting in [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► the mirror going hmm that's not even [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► maybe I should cut up the other side a [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► little bit oh it's not even again maybe [TS]

01:05:24 ◼   ► I should cut it up the other side a [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► little bit and then pretty soon you know [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► like I look I look like a like a girl in [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► college who's experimenting I always [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► wondered what would happen I look back [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► sometimes I wonder if in when I was 16 [TS]

01:05:44 ◼   ► if I had just bought a leather jacket a [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► good one that fit me and it had just won [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► that leather jacket all that like that [TS]

01:05:52 ◼   ► would be your thing I had that leather [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► jacket how was that guy that had that [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► leather jacket that the lot it would [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► have just solved a lot of problems [TS]

01:06:01 ◼   ► between the age of 16 and 26 yeah [TS]

01:06:04 ◼   ► because you wouldn't have to think about [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► it you just wear that jacket oh you [TS]

01:06:09 ◼   ► could be like I'm thinking like a [TS]

01:06:10 ◼   ► college people show up for college and [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► they became they become known for their [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► one thing like it could be skateboards [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► Scott or you know it could be a Scott [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► poor or snake Amy I've told you about [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► something game either different Amy's [TS]

01:06:22 ◼   ► and in the caning of things there was [TS]

01:06:23 ◼   ► like snake Amy she's gonna have the [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► snake she had a pet snake she would can [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► carry around with her right and so I see [TS]

01:06:28 ◼   ► then in this case the leather jacket [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► would be your snake and if you picked [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► hardcore as your sound like hardcore is [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► well it's right in the name it's [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► hardcore [TS]

01:06:40 ◼   ► right so it's all hand on there and so [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► and the sound of hardcore is very [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► distinctive and you can learn it and so [TS]

01:06:48 ◼   ► then you are if you stick in the way [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► that we're describing if you stick [TS]

01:06:53 ◼   ► around long enough in hardcore you [TS]

01:06:56 ◼   ► become part of hardcore you're no longer [TS]

01:06:59 ◼   ► just some aspirant you are part of [TS]

01:07:02 ◼   ► hardcore and once you become part of it [TS]

01:07:04 ◼   ► then what you did when you were young is [TS]

01:07:06 ◼   ► now part of the history of hardcore no [TS]

01:07:09 ◼   ► you were there you were in the trenches [TS]

01:07:11 ◼   ► that's right and you got stories to tell [TS]

01:07:14 ◼   ► you got stories and at the time there [TS]

01:07:16 ◼   ► were bigger bands than you you were just [TS]

01:07:17 ◼   ► like you know just gutting it out but [TS]

01:07:20 ◼   ► now when those bands go away and you're [TS]

01:07:22 ◼   ► still around now you kind of have [TS]

01:07:25 ◼   ► written the history of hardcore [TS]

01:07:26 ◼   ► something's right and the victors write [TS]

01:07:32 ◼   ► the history mm-hmm but if you start out [TS]

01:07:36 ◼   ► and you're just like I'm just you know [TS]

01:07:38 ◼   ► I'm just like Oh our band is is [TS]

01:07:41 ◼   ► different we're on our own we're doing [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► our own thing and you don't invent a [TS]

01:07:46 ◼   ► genre which is very hard very very hard [TS]

01:07:49 ◼   ► to do mm-hmm [TS]

01:07:51 ◼   ► when people look back they're like well [TS]

01:07:53 ◼   ► you weren't really part of any scene [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► back then so it's not like you rewrote [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► the history of that scene you just [TS]

01:08:00 ◼   ► floundered it the whole time and you [TS]

01:08:03 ◼   ► kind of clamored up on to whatever like [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► raft you managed to get on grace and [TS]

01:08:10 ◼   ► then the raft went over the falls this [TS]

01:08:12 ◼   ► is like what people I mean you know I [TS]

01:08:13 ◼   ► don't want to cast aspersions but as you [TS]

01:08:15 ◼   ► and I both know there's a handful of [TS]

01:08:17 ◼   ► characters who keep reappearing in every [TS]

01:08:21 ◼   ► music documentary oh yeah right [TS]

01:08:25 ◼   ► Klosterman [TS]

01:08:26 ◼   ► role he's they're never you get Dave [TS]

01:08:28 ◼   ► Grohl you get thirst and more or like [TS]

01:08:30 ◼   ► this like we're still talking to the [TS]

01:08:32 ◼   ► Moody Blues an awful lot these days [TS]

01:08:34 ◼   ► things to tell people you know people [TS]

01:08:37 ◼   ► feel very strongly about the Moody Blues [TS]

01:08:39 ◼   ► I don't understand that maybe I just [TS]

01:08:41 ◼   ► don't know I maybe I'm just not deep [TS]

01:08:43 ◼   ► enough into their catalogue I don't [TS]

01:08:45 ◼   ► think they have a deep catalogue [TS]

01:08:46 ◼   ► but on the scene I'll sit around I'll [TS]

01:08:48 ◼   ► sit around and and I'll watch me a [TS]

01:08:54 ◼   ► Genesis concert from 1972 that's just [TS]

01:08:56 ◼   ► the thing I'll do I'll just sit there [TS]

01:08:57 ◼   ► and watch a low-resolution like [TS]

01:09:00 ◼   ► something from like like I don't know [TS]

01:09:01 ◼   ► something around nursery crime or [TS]

01:09:02 ◼   ► Foxtrot and I'll just watch I'll just [TS]

01:09:04 ◼   ► watch the fucking Genesis concert magic [TS]

01:09:06 ◼   ► it's it's so weird and so good they were [TS]

01:09:10 ◼   ► such a good band and most people just [TS]

01:09:12 ◼   ► look I think it was like I dressed as a [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► flower but like they really brought it [TS]

01:09:16 ◼   ► they brought it and they toured the shit [TS]

01:09:17 ◼   ► out of it and they were just I mean I [TS]

01:09:19 ◼   ► don't know what your feelings are about [TS]

01:09:20 ◼   ► Genesis but like still Collins was a [TS]

01:09:22 ◼   ► really good drummer and a really good [TS]

01:09:23 ◼   ► singer and you know and Steve Hackett [TS]

01:09:26 ◼   ► that plays that guitar like ringing a [TS]

01:09:27 ◼   ► bell [TS]

01:09:28 ◼   ► yeah like Moody Blues I don't find [TS]

01:09:30 ◼   ► myself watching Moody Blues concerts is [TS]

01:09:32 ◼   ► that bad on me should I be like a gentle [TS]

01:09:33 ◼   ► giant should I be expanding my catalogue [TS]

01:09:35 ◼   ► more by the way I think I'm more [TS]

01:09:38 ◼   ► familiar with gentle giant I know [TS]

01:09:39 ◼   ► probably 2 or 3 moody blues songs but I [TS]

01:09:41 ◼   ► think I'm probably more familiar with [TS]

01:09:43 ◼   ► gentle giant isn't Pam you'll figure [TS]

01:09:44 ◼   ► that out [TS]

01:09:45 ◼   ► I feel like Moody Blues I am somebody [TS]

01:09:48 ◼   ► who cannot be mad at the Moody Blues in [TS]

01:09:57 ◼   ► the same way that I still live written [TS]

01:10:00 ◼   ► never meaning to send yeah I still [TS]

01:10:03 ◼   ► listen to Richard Harris sing about how [TS]

01:10:05 ◼   ► he left his cake out in the rain oh sure [TS]

01:10:07 ◼   ► and so again that's a good performance [TS]

01:10:13 ◼   ► that's a pretty good performance it's [TS]

01:10:15 ◼   ► great you know I mean I'll listen to [TS]

01:10:17 ◼   ► Mannheim Steamroller Christmas every [TS]

01:10:19 ◼   ► year not because I want to but because [TS]

01:10:21 ◼   ► my sister insists that says heavy metal [TS]

01:10:25 ◼   ► Christmas stuff now who's that I don't I [TS]

01:10:27 ◼   ► don't want to hear that Christmas songs [TS]

01:10:29 ◼   ► I have he's a transect burying railroad [TS]

01:10:32 ◼   ► it might be heavy metal Christmas I [TS]

01:10:34 ◼   ► wouldn't follow that I wouldn't it's [TS]

01:10:41 ◼   ► excruciating but you know what Moody [TS]

01:10:43 ◼   ► Blues was was they were like they were [TS]

01:10:46 ◼   ► like the guys following Pink Floyd and [TS]

01:10:48 ◼   ► they were they were taking in Floyd and [TS]

01:10:50 ◼   ► they were making it a little bit more [TS]

01:10:52 ◼   ► palatable and I'm not I don't disagree [TS]

01:10:53 ◼   ► with that I'm not argue with them but [TS]

01:10:55 ◼   ► therapy lot there's a lot of anger at [TS]

01:10:57 ◼   ► people or at Moody Blues [TS]

01:11:00 ◼   ► and and I don't you know it's sort of [TS]

01:11:02 ◼   ► like y-yeah no no no no don't get me [TS]

01:11:06 ◼   ► wrong I don't mean to be slacking off on [TS]

01:11:07 ◼   ► no MIDI please I'm not familiar enough [TS]

01:11:09 ◼   ► to know but but that's so now what I'm [TS]

01:11:12 ◼   ► thinking of god I can't believe I'm [TS]

01:11:14 ◼   ► saying this on the show do you ever [TS]

01:11:15 ◼   ► watch the television show Portlandia say [TS]

01:11:20 ◼   ► no there's a recent episode wait a [TS]

01:11:23 ◼   ► minute I I love to go watch Portlandia [TS]

01:11:28 ◼   ► sketches yes online and partly it is [TS]

01:11:32 ◼   ► because I have very very good feelings [TS]

01:11:35 ◼   ► about Fred Armisen yeah I don't want too [TS]

01:11:37 ◼   ► much but yeah he's he's very he's very [TS]

01:11:39 ◼   ► talented and his eyes alone are very [TS]

01:11:41 ◼   ► very funny we are currently in geing [TS]

01:11:43 ◼   ► this program at our house he sent me a [TS]

01:11:45 ◼   ► very nice email one time and just [TS]

01:11:48 ◼   ► apropos of nothing based on his own just [TS]

01:11:51 ◼   ► generous nests and and I so about the [TS]

01:11:55 ◼   ► management uh-uh no just like just out [TS]

01:12:00 ◼   ► not out of the blue but he was you know [TS]

01:12:03 ◼   ► he he felt he felt at that time that I [TS]

01:12:07 ◼   ► could use or not no no I don't think he [TS]

01:12:09 ◼   ► even thought that way he just became [TS]

01:12:11 ◼   ► aware of me and wanted to send me an [TS]

01:12:13 ◼   ► email that's the best kind of message to [TS]

01:12:16 ◼   ► receive . that is the best message it [TS]

01:12:19 ◼   ► was basically like he turned a corner he [TS]

01:12:21 ◼   ► bumped into me and he said yay [TS]

01:12:22 ◼   ► you know what you're too big for this [TS]

01:12:23 ◼   ► town like he gave me a little he gave me [TS]

01:12:26 ◼   ► just a little like hey i became aware of [TS]

01:12:28 ◼   ► you and i just wanted to say i really [TS]

01:12:29 ◼   ► like what I just like your thing and so [TS]

01:12:33 ◼   ► I don't want to hear any bad things and [TS]

01:12:35 ◼   ► then in my shirt you look weird oh yeah [TS]

01:12:37 ◼   ► - there's two main street performers [TS]

01:12:39 ◼   ► that I can think of that and this is [TS]

01:12:42 ◼   ► neither of these as anything too obscure [TS]

01:12:45 ◼   ► but there are two people where I just [TS]

01:12:47 ◼   ► look at them and I just start laughing [TS]

01:12:49 ◼   ► I'm gonna be honest with you Will [TS]

01:12:52 ◼   ► Ferrell he is just naturally very funny [TS]

01:12:53 ◼   ► Will Ferrell and a Fred Armisen they [TS]

01:12:55 ◼   ► both have very funny eyes but like even [TS]

01:12:58 ◼   ► before they're doing anything their eyes [TS]

01:12:59 ◼   ► are just funny I have never gotten into [TS]

01:13:02 ◼   ► wolf bear it's totally understandable [TS]

01:13:03 ◼   ► totally understand at the heart of it [TS]

01:13:05 ◼   ► will Ferrell is a weirdo yes that's the [TS]

01:13:08 ◼   ► great part like he he gets known for [TS]

01:13:09 ◼   ► these bits in the cowbell and whatnot [TS]

01:13:11 ◼   ► but like [TS]

01:13:12 ◼   ► the only reason I mentioned this is [TS]

01:13:14 ◼   ► their I don't know why I'm telling you [TS]

01:13:15 ◼   ► this I should cut this out but two or [TS]

01:13:17 ◼   ► three episodes ago on Portlandia there's [TS]

01:13:19 ◼   ► a character running character on the [TS]

01:13:20 ◼   ► show named spike who's like the punk [TS]

01:13:21 ◼   ► rock guy who's in his you know 50s and [TS]

01:13:24 ◼   ► spike decides it's time it's time to [TS]

01:13:25 ◼   ► speak truth to power it's time to get [TS]

01:13:26 ◼   ► his old band riot spray back together [TS]

01:13:29 ◼   ► and we know he's like this he's this you [TS]

01:13:32 ◼   ► know crusty punk rocker and it's a riot [TS]

01:13:34 ◼   ► spray it turns out this is so great [TS]

01:13:37 ◼   ► it's Henry Rollins from like he looks [TS]

01:13:48 ◼   ► like a guy you would just see at Whole [TS]

01:13:50 ◼   ► Foods [TS]

01:13:50 ◼   ► he's he's a you know he's a painted man [TS]

01:13:57 ◼   ► does he just kind of look like a guy [TS]

01:13:59 ◼   ► you'd see at Whole Foods well so Chris [TS]

01:14:02 ◼   ► moved to the most rural place in [TS]

01:14:06 ◼   ► Washington in in western Washington I [TS]

01:14:09 ◼   ► should say there are rural places in [TS]

01:14:10 ◼   ► Eastern Washington that are very rural [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► you can get out there where you come [TS]

01:14:15 ◼   ► over the come over the rise and there's [TS]

01:14:17 ◼   ► a happen abandoned houses like Second [TS]

01:14:20 ◼   ► Amendment country it's it's yeah it's [TS]

01:14:22 ◼   ► what it's uh it's the high plains but in [TS]

01:14:25 ◼   ► in the west of Washington there are a [TS]

01:14:28 ◼   ► lot of places where it just rains all [TS]

01:14:31 ◼   ► the time and the main the main cash crop [TS]

01:14:36 ◼   ► is cranberries and there are a lot of [TS]

01:14:39 ◼   ► fishermen that are the kind of fishermen [TS]

01:14:43 ◼   ► that just every time they go out they [TS]

01:14:46 ◼   ► may not come back you know the kind of [TS]

01:14:48 ◼   ► Deadliest Catch they're though they're [TS]

01:14:50 ◼   ► the real crazy ones the ones whose eyes [TS]

01:14:52 ◼   ► are permanently squinty and the wind [TS]

01:14:55 ◼   ► blows all the time and there are there [TS]

01:14:57 ◼   ► shellfish people and they're very [TS]

01:15:00 ◼   ► shellfish but he moved down there and [TS]

01:15:10 ◼   ► bought some land and I know that [TS]

01:15:13 ◼   ► territory pretty well and I can only [TS]

01:15:15 ◼   ► imagine even if you buy the hillsides [TS]

01:15:17 ◼   ► like the ground is always soggy right [TS]

01:15:21 ◼   ► you can never you never really standing [TS]

01:15:23 ◼   ► on hard ground you [TS]

01:15:25 ◼   ► really I bet you really gotta want to [TS]

01:15:26 ◼   ► live there well but but it's kind of [TS]

01:15:28 ◼   ► where he grew up like out in Aberdeen it [TS]

01:15:30 ◼   ► this is this the same country okay [TS]

01:15:32 ◼   ► Aberdeen's were Nirvana started right [TS]

01:15:34 ◼   ► yeah then there's no there's no economy [TS]

01:15:37 ◼   ► I mean there used to be logging but it's [TS]

01:15:39 ◼   ► that's mostly gone and he got so two [TS]

01:15:43 ◼   ► things that he did that I think are [TS]

01:15:44 ◼   ► great one he got his private pilot's [TS]

01:15:46 ◼   ► license that's cool so every time he [TS]

01:15:49 ◼   ► goes I approve of that as an aging rock [TS]

01:15:52 ◼   ► star thing I approve of the pilot's [TS]

01:15:53 ◼   ► license yeah it's great but I mean it's [TS]

01:15:55 ◼   ► not like he has like a Learjet [TS]

01:15:56 ◼   ► he drives a little you know a Cessna 172 [TS]

01:15:58 ◼   ► like me and he when he comes to Seattle [TS]

01:16:04 ◼   ► he flies he flies himself up there and [TS]

01:16:06 ◼   ► it's typical it's great but the other [TS]

01:16:09 ◼   ► thing he did was he got himself elected [TS]

01:16:11 ◼   ► to the Grange the local like agriculture [TS]

01:16:17 ◼   ► board which is cowboy Congress yeah it's [TS]

01:16:22 ◼   ► effectively like the government for the [TS]

01:16:24 ◼   ► region but all it is is they all get [TS]

01:16:25 ◼   ► together in like a hall and argue about [TS]

01:16:29 ◼   ► cranberries but he's like active in [TS]

01:16:33 ◼   ► super local politics like the the local [TS]

01:16:37 ◼   ► politics of this crazy little like way [TS]

01:16:42 ◼   ► west super Lewis & Clark outpost out [TS]

01:16:46 ◼   ► there when I was running for City [TS]

01:16:48 ◼   ► Council he and I talked every week [TS]

01:16:50 ◼   ► because he was really interested in [TS]

01:16:53 ◼   ► Seattle politics and he really wanted he [TS]

01:16:58 ◼   ► really wanted to help me and he really [TS]

01:17:00 ◼   ► wanted to make sure that I had my [TS]

01:17:03 ◼   ► platform straight and 90 percent of the [TS]

01:17:07 ◼   ► the advice he gave me and the stuff he [TS]

01:17:09 ◼   ► wanted to talk about was like dead-on [TS]

01:17:12 ◼   ► all I always bring cupcakes that kind of [TS]

01:17:15 ◼   ► thing well and just like you know you [TS]

01:17:17 ◼   ► need to like I'm kidding but he knows [TS]

01:17:19 ◼   ► where he speaks here because he's dealt [TS]

01:17:21 ◼   ► with ornery characters in a in a small [TS]

01:17:24 ◼   ► town well and people tried to get him to [TS]

01:17:26 ◼   ► there was a brief moment where he was [TS]

01:17:29 ◼   ► put up to run for a national office I [TS]

01:17:35 ◼   ► think either either senator maybe [TS]

01:17:38 ◼   ► governor I forget what it was but he was [TS]

01:17:41 ◼   ► he was proposed as a politician himself [TS]

01:17:46 ◼   ► and I think he got into the race and the [TS]

01:17:50 ◼   ► first press conference he had somebody [TS]

01:17:51 ◼   ► was like so when Kurt Cobain died of [TS]

01:17:53 ◼   ► heroin did that affect your and he was [TS]

01:17:56 ◼   ► like get me out of here yeah and so he [TS]

01:17:59 ◼   ► said that's not for me that world is not [TS]

01:18:01 ◼   ► where I want to be but you know right [TS]

01:18:05 ◼   ► there that's a pretty good example I was [TS]

01:18:07 ◼   ► talking about before yeah I think you [TS]

01:18:09 ◼   ► kind of walked that path a little bit [TS]

01:18:11 ◼   ► too whereas like I have a real clear [TS]

01:18:12 ◼   ► idea of what I could do once I'm in here [TS]

01:18:14 ◼   ► to help this stuff out but boy yeah I [TS]

01:18:15 ◼   ► didn't fight about you you're the poster [TS]

01:18:17 ◼   ► boy for that yeah the whole like oh if [TS]

01:18:19 ◼   ► you don't love this grind doesn't know [TS]

01:18:21 ◼   ► if you're good at the job and like I [TS]

01:18:23 ◼   ► said at the time I think you know it's [TS]

01:18:25 ◼   ► like to be a good city council person [TS]

01:18:27 ◼   ► and to be good at running for City [TS]

01:18:29 ◼   ► Council are two totally different jobs [TS]

01:18:31 ◼   ► and you have to be good at both but to [TS]

01:18:34 ◼   ► get elected all you have to be good at [TS]

01:18:35 ◼   ► is the running part and then once you [TS]

01:18:38 ◼   ► get in is when people decide or discover [TS]

01:18:41 ◼   ► whether or not you're good at the other [TS]

01:18:43 ◼   ► part they just concentrate on the [TS]

01:18:44 ◼   ► Grafton greed there as there are a [TS]

01:18:46 ◼   ► couple of people on the Seattle City [TS]

01:18:48 ◼   ► Council that we're running when I was [TS]

01:18:49 ◼   ► running and one in particular I guess [TS]

01:18:52 ◼   ► who ran and won and then is now on there [TS]

01:18:56 ◼   ► and I think that I don't know if it's [TS]

01:18:58 ◼   ► the consensus yet but I think it's clear [TS]

01:19:00 ◼   ► like oh not as good at it and might have [TS]

01:19:05 ◼   ► been the revolution is not the same as [TS]

01:19:09 ◼   ► running the Banana Republic right ten [TS]

01:19:12 ◼   ► percent of the advice that Chris gave me [TS]

01:19:14 ◼   ► was about cranberry farming which was [TS]

01:19:16 ◼   ► not useful in running for office in [TS]

01:19:19 ◼   ► Seattle did he sound wise he just had [TS]

01:19:22 ◼   ► some stuff that he wanted to make sure [TS]

01:19:23 ◼   ► was on my agenda we don't do as much [TS]

01:19:30 ◼   ► cranberry stuff out here as you guys do [TS]

01:19:33 ◼   ► down there it was not it was not a [TS]

01:19:41 ◼   ► problem because the rest of it advice [TS]

01:19:42 ◼   ► was so good [TS]

01:19:44 ◼   ► but yeah he is a he is a very very very [TS]

01:19:48 ◼   ► unusual man and [TS]

01:19:50 ◼   ► you know like wonderful wonderful I told [TS]

01:19:53 ◼   ► you about the event and where Duff [TS]

01:19:55 ◼   ► McKagan asked him to come interview him [TS]

01:19:58 ◼   ► for the release of Duff's book mm-hmm [TS]

01:20:00 ◼   ► and they showed up and her husband on [TS]

01:20:03 ◼   ► Portlandia I bet he has was the st. [TS]

01:20:06 ◼   ► Vincent one time it's been suggested or [TS]

01:20:08 ◼   ► it's been asked why I was never on [TS]

01:20:10 ◼   ► Portlandia but you know what I didn't do [TS]

01:20:13 ◼   ► I didn't network I didn't write Fred [TS]

01:20:15 ◼   ► Armisen back man hey what's up just [TS]

01:20:18 ◼   ► checking in hey man did I wrote it back [TS]

01:20:22 ◼   ► and I said thank you so much for your [TS]

01:20:23 ◼   ► kind letter and he said no problem and [TS]

01:20:26 ◼   ► then I was like well I don't anything [TS]

01:20:28 ◼   ► else to say to him I know I know it's [TS]

01:20:30 ◼   ► not the worst we could write it back and [TS]

01:20:31 ◼   ► say like I love your your eyes I almost [TS]

01:20:34 ◼   ► I almost wrote the McElroy's this [TS]

01:20:35 ◼   ► morning just to compliment them on their [TS]

01:20:37 ◼   ► Casper add read and then it's like you [TS]

01:20:39 ◼   ► know what they don't need that no but [TS]

01:20:40 ◼   ► you know what they love hearing from you [TS]

01:20:42 ◼   ► because they really admire you I really [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► admire them but I thought you know what [TS]

01:20:45 ◼   ► I shouldn't do that cuz when you when [TS]

01:20:47 ◼   ► you contact somebody you make it about [TS]

01:20:48 ◼   ► you unless you're somebody like a Fred [TS]

01:20:50 ◼   ► Armisen who makes about the other person [TS]

01:20:51 ◼   ► that's a nice thing you should write it [TS]

01:20:53 ◼   ► you should write to Reggie Watts [TS]

01:20:58 ◼   ► I've made all the compliments to Reggie [TS]

01:21:01 ◼   ► that that our relationship needs for the [TS]

01:21:08 ◼   ► rest of your relationship [TS]

01:21:09 ◼   ► well maybe not maybe we'll do it [TS]

01:21:11 ◼   ► together and I'll be like that was great [TS]

01:21:13 ◼   ► Reggie mm-hmm but to write him now would [TS]

01:21:16 ◼   ► be he would get the email and he'd be [TS]

01:21:18 ◼   ► like I want what he was like you're [TS]

01:21:22 ◼   ► right Fred Armisen now and say hey yeah [TS]

01:21:25 ◼   ► I mean I think I think the seasons [TS]

01:21:27 ◼   ► already done yeah yeah I know they're [TS]

01:21:29 ◼   ► done they heard an interview with Carey [TS]

01:21:30 ◼   ► yeah that's all over too late for me to [TS]

01:21:32 ◼   ► be on Portlandia just as it's too late [TS]

01:21:34 ◼   ► for me to be on a lot of things oh I [TS]

01:21:41 ◼   ► should have although you know what [TS]

01:21:43 ◼   ► remember it wasn't very long ago when I [TS]

01:21:45 ◼   ► was saying I've never won an award Yeah [TS]

01:21:48 ◼   ► right [TS]

01:21:48 ◼   ► yeah I mean it's kind of it's long I'm [TS]

01:21:51 ◼   ► going lament for you is he's never gone [TS]

01:21:53 ◼   ► one knows it always struck me that it [TS]

01:21:55 ◼   ► wasn't that you felt like maybe I'm [TS]

01:21:57 ◼   ► getting this wrong but it wasn't it [TS]

01:21:58 ◼   ► precisely that you felt like you were do [TS]

01:22:01 ◼   ► an award for a given thing but it was [TS]

01:22:03 ◼   ► bigger subsets of like what the fuck of [TS]

01:22:05 ◼   ► I know gotten award well or like yeah [TS]

01:22:07 ◼   ► right well what would the award be but [TS]

01:22:09 ◼   ► it seems like everybody's got it [TS]

01:22:11 ◼   ► everything gets Awards people get awards [TS]

01:22:13 ◼   ► right in lap you can get a webby you [TS]

01:22:15 ◼   ► know I mean they're just giving this [TS]

01:22:16 ◼   ► shit away [TS]

01:22:16 ◼   ► so I'm sitting at home dude to do to [TS]

01:22:19 ◼   ► doing and the Grammys were on and I knew [TS]

01:22:22 ◼   ► it and so I was avoiding all media [TS]

01:22:24 ◼   ► because who wants that who wants to be [TS]

01:22:28 ◼   ► watching those I'm even on the Grammy [TS]

01:22:30 ◼   ► Board I vote in the Grammys but I don't [TS]

01:22:32 ◼   ► want to watch the show no no thanks but [TS]

01:22:35 ◼   ► then I get a tweet or wait a minute no [TS]

01:22:42 ◼   ► yeah well hmm maybe I got a letter from [TS]

01:22:45 ◼   ► somebody I got a letter from somebody [TS]

01:22:49 ◼   ► and maybe it was a me her so I anyway [TS]

01:22:54 ◼   ► very same she's in on Portlandia yeah I [TS]

01:22:56 ◼   ► know she was in was there other [TS]

01:22:58 ◼   ► housekeeper she was great she was going [TS]

01:23:00 ◼   ► I've seen that episode but I guess all [TS]

01:23:03 ◼   ► of a sudden I'm texting with with Amy [TS]

01:23:05 ◼   ► and she won the Grammy for Best folk [TS]

01:23:09 ◼   ► album really that's amazing yeah [TS]

01:23:13 ◼   ► yeah well I wouldn't have ever thought [TS]

01:23:14 ◼   ► of her as good artist Yeah right right [TS]

01:23:18 ◼   ► like what is a force yes some of their [TS]

01:23:21 ◼   ► categories are a little bit longer the [TS]

01:23:22 ◼   ► tooth but you know but so here she is [TS]

01:23:24 ◼   ► best folk album and I realized as we're [TS]

01:23:28 ◼   ► texting back and forth wait a minute I [TS]

01:23:31 ◼   ► wrote a song on that album oh oh [TS]

01:23:33 ◼   ► and so this isn't an example engraved [TS]

01:23:37 ◼   ► somewhere well this is what I'm [TS]

01:23:39 ◼   ► wondering [TS]

01:23:40 ◼   ► mm-hmm because it's not an example of [TS]

01:23:41 ◼   ► Amy's album winning best packaging which [TS]

01:23:46 ◼   ► is there for the music for the folks it [TS]

01:23:48 ◼   ► look nice it's there for the music and [TS]

01:23:50 ◼   ► so I did not say to Amy where's my [TS]

01:23:55 ◼   ► parade I contacted my people in at the [TS]

01:24:03 ◼   ► Grammys and said asking for a friend [TS]

01:24:07 ◼   ► if hypothetically a the record wins a [TS]

01:24:12 ◼   ► Grammy and you had a Grammy for Best [TS]

01:24:17 ◼   ► in Category and your friend has written [TS]

01:24:21 ◼   ► a song on that record what's the story [TS]

01:24:26 ◼   ► with that yeah I work I know that you [TS]

01:24:28 ◼   ► don't get one of the little gramophones [TS]

01:24:30 ◼   ► one of the gold gramophones but is there [TS]

01:24:34 ◼   ► something and they came back and said [TS]

01:24:37 ◼   ► yes you get a very nice from suitable [TS]

01:24:40 ◼   ► for framing gold embossed certificates [TS]

01:24:43 ◼   ► it says I won or I wrote a song on a [TS]

01:24:46 ◼   ► Grammy winning album the devil you say [TS]

01:24:48 ◼   ► and so all of a sudden it's not quite [TS]

01:24:51 ◼   ► that I won exactly something no no it's [TS]

01:24:55 ◼   ► worse but I did get a certificate mental [TS]

01:24:59 ◼   ► illness a me man [TS]

01:25:00 ◼   ► best folk album yeah she beat out Laura [TS]

01:25:04 ◼   ► Marling off of recs the secret sisters [TS]

01:25:07 ◼   ► and Cat Stevens and Cat Stevens [TS]

01:25:11 ◼   ► he's called youssef slash Cat Stevens [TS]

01:25:13 ◼   ► Kapow [TS]

01:25:15 ◼   ► yeah the Laughing Apple is albums called [TS]

01:25:17 ◼   ► so anyway certificate and then I was [TS]

01:25:21 ◼   ► like well and the thing is Jonathan [TS]

01:25:24 ◼   ► Coulton wrote a couple of songs on that [TS]

01:25:25 ◼   ► record too so he's gonna get a [TS]

01:25:26 ◼   ► certificate it's a little off it doesn't [TS]

01:25:28 ◼   ► it doesn't kind of tarnish his shit [TS]

01:25:30 ◼   ► and he actually his record was nominated [TS]

01:25:33 ◼   ► for wait for it [TS]

01:25:34 ◼   ► best packaging always good packaging and [TS]

01:25:37 ◼   ► he lost my comic book from a fraction [TS]

01:25:40 ◼   ► comic book I think so he's actually [TS]

01:25:44 ◼   ► gonna get another certificate because [TS]

01:25:46 ◼   ► you get a certificate that says I was [TS]

01:25:48 ◼   ► nominated for a Grammy Award so if you [TS]

01:25:51 ◼   ► know once again like his wall of [TS]

01:25:53 ◼   ► diplomas is much better than mine [TS]

01:25:57 ◼   ► see that makes it all so much worse he [TS]

01:25:59 ◼   ► might even get nominated for a Tony [TS]

01:26:00 ◼   ► because he because he wrote some songs [TS]

01:26:05 ◼   ► on the new spongebob musical Oh jiminy [TS]

01:26:09 ◼   ► but wait wait but that's neither here [TS]

01:26:12 ◼   ► nor there what I'm saying is that as I'm [TS]

01:26:15 ◼   ► contemplating receiving this certificate [TS]

01:26:17 ◼   ► which I probably will not open that a [TS]

01:26:24 ◼   ► few years ago Kathleen Edwards won a so [TS]

01:26:27 ◼   ► can [TS]

01:26:28 ◼   ► which is a Canadian a major Canadian [TS]

01:26:32 ◼   ► that's not a canadian award it's a major [TS]

01:26:35 ◼   ► award in canada and she wanted for a [TS]

01:26:38 ◼   ► song that I have a co-write on and it [TS]

01:26:44 ◼   ► was a generous it was generous on her [TS]

01:26:46 ◼   ► part she was sitting in my living room [TS]

01:26:48 ◼   ► and she was like I want you to listen to [TS]

01:26:49 ◼   ► the song and tell me what you think and [TS]

01:26:51 ◼   ► she played it for me on on my piano that [TS]

01:26:54 ◼   ► that my cousin yells about as being a [TS]

01:26:59 ◼   ► weird sounding piano and I said oh well [TS]

01:27:02 ◼   ► that's a great song obviously you're a [TS]

01:27:06 ◼   ► great songwriter and all I would do is [TS]

01:27:08 ◼   ► change this to that and then you should [TS]

01:27:11 ◼   ► add this and take that away and she gave [TS]

01:27:12 ◼   ► you credit for that and she gave me [TS]

01:27:14 ◼   ► songwriting credit honor and you know [TS]

01:27:18 ◼   ► and it has a part that if you listen to [TS]

01:27:19 ◼   ► the song when the part comes you go [TS]

01:27:21 ◼   ► oh that's very mm-hmm John right but you [TS]

01:27:25 ◼   ► know it's a wonder it's a wonderful song [TS]

01:27:28 ◼   ► and it's her song entirely but she gave [TS]

01:27:32 ◼   ► me the songwriting credit and so when [TS]

01:27:34 ◼   ► the SOCAN Awards were announced and the [TS]

01:27:39 ◼   ► award was for best song so it was [TS]

01:27:43 ◼   ► announced that Kathleen Edwards and John [TS]

01:27:45 ◼   ► Roderick won this award so can award [TS]

01:27:48 ◼   ► damn but I was not in Canada and I think [TS]

01:27:53 ◼   ► I don't well so I never wrote them a [TS]

01:27:56 ◼   ► letter saying is there a certificate or [TS]

01:28:01 ◼   ► something yeah do an article yeah just a [TS]

01:28:04 ◼   ► curiosity just asking for a friend [TS]

01:28:06 ◼   ► yeah and so now it occurs to me that I [TS]

01:28:10 ◼   ► have another certificate of [TS]

01:28:12 ◼   ► participation for a thing that I kind of [TS]

01:28:17 ◼   ► was standing next to when someone won [TS]

01:28:20 ◼   ► mm-hmm and now I'm starting to feel like [TS]

01:28:22 ◼   ► well I'm half won a couple of things you [TS]

01:28:26 ◼   ► should you should go back through your [TS]

01:28:27 ◼   ► catalogue and figure out door you know [TS]

01:28:29 ◼   ► just any of your relationships and [TS]

01:28:31 ◼   ► figure out what what else are you owed [TS]

01:28:32 ◼   ► well you know I did sing the background [TS]

01:28:36 ◼   ► harmonies Transatlanticism transplant [TS]

01:28:39 ◼   ► official notes on we'll get one [TS]

01:28:41 ◼   ► - is that gonna make it worse so sure so [TS]

01:28:43 ◼   ► here's what happened Shawn sang on [TS]

01:28:45 ◼   ► several of the songs well maybe not [TS]

01:28:47 ◼   ► several a handful he sang on three or [TS]

01:28:52 ◼   ► something songs on that record Shawn [TS]

01:28:55 ◼   ► does have a gold record on his wall from [TS]

01:29:01 ◼   ► trans Atlantis's Oh God [TS]

01:29:03 ◼   ► now guess who doesn't that's right I [TS]

01:29:11 ◼   ► don't have one and I think it was in the [TS]

01:29:16 ◼   ► when they're sitting there with the [TS]

01:29:18 ◼   ► notepad out who do we send these to [TS]

01:29:25 ◼   ► Shaunie well Shawn was very helpful he [TS]

01:29:28 ◼   ► sang on several songs he pops right to [TS]

01:29:30 ◼   ► the top of the list and let's see if we [TS]

01:29:34 ◼   ► got to give one to the producer and [TS]

01:29:35 ◼   ► fixer and the but Josh and Emily got one [TS]

01:29:41 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah that's right on the wall [TS]

01:29:43 ◼   ► there at bar soup but you know what I [TS]

01:29:45 ◼   ► did was I sang come on really pops yeah [TS]

01:29:53 ◼   ► and there's and I sang another part and [TS]

01:29:55 ◼   ► he just charges sang another one of his [TS]

01:29:57 ◼   ► perfect angelic parts which he does all [TS]

01:29:59 ◼   ► the time that's easy for him and you [TS]

01:30:01 ◼   ► here is his angel he sings like an angel [TS]

01:30:03 ◼   ► he does you brought your your your gut [TS]

01:30:07 ◼   ► rattling just creaking listen to that [TS]

01:30:16 ◼   ► transit land I do not have the thing for [TS]

01:30:23 ◼   ► the wall that then you put you know you [TS]

01:30:25 ◼   ► kind of put it next to the bathroom [TS]

01:30:27 ◼   ► you're like oh that old thing like that [TS]

01:30:28 ◼   ► thing you know you or I could not open [TS]

01:30:31 ◼   ► it and it could be like a gold record [TS]

01:30:33 ◼   ► the idea of your trophy room being [TS]

01:30:36 ◼   ► unopened boxes but with a full display [TS]

01:30:38 ◼   ► case and maybe a bell jar on it and a [TS]

01:30:40 ◼   ► fucking black with a question mark like [TS]

01:30:42 ◼   ► just stuff you've gotten in the mail [TS]

01:30:44 ◼   ► that might be really beautiful [TS]

01:30:53 ◼   ► and mounted things in envelopes see for [TS]

01:30:55 ◼   ► all you know it could be a bigmouth [TS]

01:30:56 ◼   ► Billy bass but could also be a Grammy no [TS]

01:30:59 ◼   ► one saying it's not a Grammy is the [TS]

01:31:02 ◼   ► schrödinger's Grammy well I'm you know [TS]

01:31:04 ◼   ► right in the center a really big box [TS]

01:31:06 ◼   ► that's probably a platinum record from [TS]

01:31:08 ◼   ► Beauty you have to imagine they did very [TS]

01:31:11 ◼   ► well John is a very popular but it was [TS]

01:31:14 ◼   ► popular and and you know wouldn't it [TS]

01:31:17 ◼   ► cost a lot to send like one to everybody [TS]

01:31:20 ◼   ► that worked on us to say how many people [TS]

01:31:22 ◼   ► ended up learning about them because [TS]

01:31:24 ◼   ► they came to see the opening act I think [TS]

01:31:27 ◼   ► it's pretty safe to say how many people [TS]

01:31:29 ◼   ► did because you know we can look at our [TS]

01:31:33 ◼   ► own record sales [TS]

01:31:34 ◼   ► you never know you never know but but [TS]

01:31:38 ◼   ► yeah so I mean so my like my [TS]

01:31:41 ◼   ► metaphysical trophy wall has a lot of [TS]

01:31:46 ◼   ► these like a ward adjacent envelopes [TS]

01:31:49 ◼   ► yeah and I just like and of course now [TS]

01:31:53 ◼   ► we have phony that's the thing see [TS]

01:31:55 ◼   ► somebody went to the trouble yeah an [TS]

01:31:58 ◼   ► award the non-existent award that we [TS]

01:32:01 ◼   ► made up and were mad that we weren't [TS]

01:32:03 ◼   ► nominated for somebody made that real [TS]

01:32:05 ◼   ► Rory made that real he made you the [TS]

01:32:08 ◼   ► headphones you hope you an award was [TS]

01:32:10 ◼   ► literally invented for you not to be [TS]

01:32:13 ◼   ► better yeah although I invented it but [TS]

01:32:17 ◼   ► we invented well you conceptualized it [TS]

01:32:19 ◼   ► that's right but you didn't paint you [TS]

01:32:22 ◼   ► fucking headphones no I didn't take [TS]

01:32:24 ◼   ► headphones and build a phony award yes [TS]

01:32:26 ◼   ► and stuff that guy's the real deal well [TS]

01:32:29 ◼   ► and to be honest those are noise [TS]

01:32:31 ◼   ► protection headphones sue [TS]

01:32:39 ◼   ► you guys just wrap it up and put it away [TS]

01:32:41 ◼   ► why bother my fucking mother [TS]

01:32:41 ◼   ► why bother my fucking mother [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► hi Merlin how's it going good yeah is it [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► earlier you ill Oh neither [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► oh you okay no no you sound better yeah [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► no I I just I did something i I never do [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► which is I crammed I crammed that's the [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► wrong one I ate I ate some food [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► oh gee I ate too warmed up slices of [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► pizza mmm [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► for breakfast she's microwave for the [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► the oven I use the microwave huh [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► which is I you know we all know the not [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► the best way to put pizza back into [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► circulation from cold pizza just fine [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► mm-hmm [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► some reason I thought just I just [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► thought go for it just throw the pizzas [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► in the in the microwave and eat them I [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► recently acquired some new technology [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► that I'm very excited about although I [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► have not figured out how fully to [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► utilize it yet and I acquired a product [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► from the Whirlpool Corporation that [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► purports to be a pan touch the pan it's [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► a pan that can be used it's basically [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► looks like a pizza let's say probably [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► like a 12-inch pizza [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► dingus what do you call them you know [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► talking about pizza pan pizza pan feets [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► pan [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► but it's treated with some kind of [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► aluminium that can be used in the [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► microwave oven wait a minute I know see [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► this flies in the face of everything [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► we've learned this is our culture and [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► our heritage is one thing we know yep [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► man the moon microwave oven right [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► microwave oven cannot heat to the center [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► of a lasagna and you can't put a pan in [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► a microwave mm-hmm [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► you don't don't rollerskate know the [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► flow hurt but I got this I've only used [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► it once but it purports to crisp up the [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► thing that you are heating in the [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► microwave Christmas it up now have you [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► ever gotten for example like gas station [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► french fries that comes in a pack with [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► like like a silvery reflective inside [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► when you heat it you know that I don't [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► eat potatoes [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► oh you're aware of judges you just don't [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► consume them yeah but I do know about [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► the packaging that you're describing the [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► the foil inner inner foil yes I mean I'm [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► keen to have this happen cuz me I like [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► some hot wings [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► sometimes when we order a delivery place [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► I'll get hot wings just for later kind [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► of for the Tavia for me what's the [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► problem with a hot wing is you got it [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► you got a chicken piece and on the [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► inside on the outside you got to get me [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► hot sauce and in between you've got some [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► crisped up probably flowery coating [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► thing and then you heat that in a [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► microwave and it's just not that fun [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► no it's our job to sell I don't know I [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► think I might be this might be something [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► you want to look at I am going to [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► problem is it is at odds I think I've [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► talked I feel like I definitely talked [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► about this before but I don't know if [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► you know this about me I am a master of [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► the microwave particularly with regard [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► to using the percentages I'm a [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► percentage man on are you really yeah [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► you know my whole feeling about it is [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► like put it in at a hundred percent [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► mm-hmm and it's all a time game just [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► saying it's a percentage game it can be [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► a percentage game this is not for [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► everybody because a lot of people they [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► have busy working day lives and they've [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► got to get on moving moving to the next [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► thing they're mining bitcoins [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► they're picking kids up at school [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► there's a lot control but so one benefit [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► we've got a really high wattage [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► microwave that heats stuff super fast so [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► like coming [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► how many wattage it's over a thousand I [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► want to say like 1200 or more but we [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► always have to go a little bit south on [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► when they tell you like oh do it for [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► this long can you get those on the [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► street you can get these please 1200 [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► mics on the street well you know does [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► some aftermarket things to it we [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► Ami's and uh yeah yeah so I mean that's [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► great if you want to make hot water you [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► want pure energy going coursing through [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► your water your energy to your energy to [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► generate the heats there's nice bullets [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► you want that but with a pizza see [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► here's the thing with a pizza you put a [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► pizza in for a minute yeah that's gonna [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► be a very very very hot possibly bernie [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► pizza hot wet pizza hot wet pizza I love [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► that movie so here's my challenge to you [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► is to start so first of all you may know [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► for example that for defrosting if you [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► don't have an auto defrost if you do [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► need to defrost you go for like a ten a [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► ten percent that's really yeah cuz the [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► problem is what a microwave does [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► according to the the technologies and [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► books that I have acquired is that it [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► cooks from the I believe it cooks I want [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► to say from the inside out I'm not sure [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► how that were inside out cooks from the [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► corner but just something where like [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► it's very you know you've had the [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► experience certainly of like let's look [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► at the lasagna considered was Anya [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► consider kids on and when yeah when you [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► heat the lasagna you get that thing of [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► like one part is scalding and giving you [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► mouth meat yeah and another part is like [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► actually physically cold still throws [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► yeah well okay so here's here's my [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► challenge to you consider and consider [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► the 40 percent setting all right so if [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► you you got a pretty good feel for like [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► how long to put something in to heat it [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► up thinking about it now I'm thinking [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► I'm holding I'm holding the let's say [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► what is the thing that I microwaved the [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► most that isn't yeah something you know [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► some well I have to I have to I have to [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► two ways I use the microwave actually [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► the thing that I shouldn't have frozen [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► that I froze right and now I want to [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► bring it back to life you have you [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► you're you are kind of a master of the [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► freezing process like if you're not sure [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► if meats gone bad you put it in the [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► freezer right and so I can have that [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► later that's right the freeze the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► freezing if it's like if I don't cook [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► this today then I then it's going bad [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► throw it away yeah put it in the freezer [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► and then I'll cook it a year from now [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► how do you like me now I like you plenty [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► now I think that's a terrific way to go [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► and you know that's a little bit of [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► mystery yes everything you pull out of [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► the freezer which should be you know [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► it's it's brand spankin new you know and [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► you're you're when you were a kid did [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► you ever put batteries in the [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► refrigerator to refresh them course okay [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► so I don't know if people do that [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► anymore it used to be the conventional [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► wisdom was now now you can store your [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► batteries in the fridge supposedly makes [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► them last longer I don't know I don't [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► know the kid we take oh we take a 9-volt [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► and stick it in there overnight and you [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► get a little more juice out of it yeah [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► so what I would suggest is this is very [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► arbitrary but if you have let's say [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► arbitrarily you've got something you [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► need to heat up that you feel like is a [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► let's say a two-minute heat up try [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► having the amount of time and doing it [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► at 40% same amount of time but 40% of [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► half the amount of time wait whoa no no [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► sorry wait a minute I got my math wrong [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► okay cut that out when you edit this cut [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► that out all right do this almost twice [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► as long for 40% and what that does is [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► that's gonna let those little waves [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► really get in there they're gonna say [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► hey buddy you know pump your brakes we [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► just need to get real deep into the [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► lasagna this is not this is not we're [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► not some teenage boy that needs to need [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► to bust his nut on this lasagna and and [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► you know uh 40 seconds right let's be a [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► gentleman about this let's length of [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► food accommodate the waves you're just [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► gonna slide into there da it's okay [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► buddy [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► I don't want to see your speed this is [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► this is a microwave user this is gonna [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► go you tell me if you want to stop right [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► so Sam's it's like vibrating I always [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► think of a microwave as cooking by like [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► by jiggling by vibrating like the [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► molecules yeah so it's in the molecule [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► but what you're saying is like it's just [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► gonna it's gonna tickle its way through [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► the outside molecules be like yelling at [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► it you know what I'm saying don't yell [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► it don't yell at the lasagna anyway I'm [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► just tossing this out experiment try it [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► try this because I have [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► I did this one my daughter frequently my [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► daughter will have like two pieces of [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► pizza we got leftover pizza she wants to [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► snack of course two minutes before [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► dinner she has to have a snack which is [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► just driving me out of my mind but like [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► she gets home from school I'm gonna make [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► her some pizza [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► I'll do and because we have a super [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► strong microwave I'll do maybe 40% for a [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► minute 20 see how it is it can always do [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► more you can't undo microwave you can [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► only do more microwave you can't receive [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► there's no at currently with the current [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► technology right no way to remove [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► microwave [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► but you might be amazed it makes it [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► really quite nice and what does you know [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► it's easy to screw up a pizza it's [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► pretty easy to mess up yeah but also [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► pizza is just such a throwaway food it's [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► like but I noticed this about myself all [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► the time I screw up food and then I sit [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► and shame eat it you do that now you eat [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► it I screwed this up so badly and so now [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► what I deserve is to sit alone at the [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► end of this table with a napkin tucked [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► into my shirt [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► and a knife in one hand and a fork in [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► the other and just just just eat this [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► shit that I just really like misery in [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► every bite I do that I learn from it [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► John no no that the tragedy is here's [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► one of the tragedies I was talking to [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► you I think about my inability to cook a [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► steak oh yeah very surprising a man [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► contacted me here in Seattle and he said [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► I'm teaching his cook steak a steak [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► cooking class a cook steak in class and [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► he said I'd like you to come attending [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► the cook steak in class and I said I [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► would be so into that and now I just was [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► offered a gig at the same time as the [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► cooks taking class Oh bummer [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► and you know I can partly make my living [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► doing gigs gigs are important it's a gig [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► economy it's an out of town gig all the [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► things that and you know and I'm just [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► like I can't see your calendar for that [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► stuff it's no good it's no good and I [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► just feel I just feel like I [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► just put and the thing is he doesn't [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► offer this class all the time this is a [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► this is a class that just comes up every [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► once a while I don't know why he seems [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► like he should be able to do it every [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► day [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► yeah every morning he should wake up in [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► the teachers what you just hop on the [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► blower [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► they have him give a tea and pigs and [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► bunnies you think there's something [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► where he could just give you the high [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► level give you three bullets on a cook's [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► taking that means that insulting to to [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► his method probably I mean what one time [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► I took a am I took an engineering class [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► like a like a studio production class [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► because I've sat in recording studios a [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► hundred times looking over people's [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► shoulders asking them questions what are [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► you doing there I'm just you know I'm [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► changing the Shelf on the loom the bus [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► mm-hmm it's like oh you're changing the [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► shelf on the bus I don't know and I even [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► know what those turns you thinking [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► yourself should I be changing the shelf [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► on my bus oh shit is exactly right right [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► I mean you know like I run my vocals to [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► an 1176 I love I love the way the [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► machine sounds I I know them intimately [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► from staring at them but still every [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► single thing that a person does on them [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► I have no idea what they're doing [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► I'm just looking at this this is the [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► 1176 L in the classic limiting amplifier [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► mmm-hmm oh it's got a lot of knobs John [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► but it's a wonderful wonderful machine [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► and it has and the thing is it has [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► tricks there are tricks you can do on it [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► you can push all the buttons in at once [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► which everybody agrees is really great [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► and so if I owned one they're not cheap [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► if I owned one I would put all the [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► buttons in at once and I'd leave it [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► there and I would find a setting and I [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► would just leave it there I would never [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► touch it again the problem is and I [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► don't know if you encountered this [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► because you're somebody that I that [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► spend some time understanding them [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► architecture and I like to understand [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► the architecture well the rules before [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► you break them that's right and when [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► when a compressor or a limiter is doing [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► its job I understand [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► in my mind's eye kind of what's [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► happening kind of to sound which I kind [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► of understand but I cannot quite put [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► together you know I am I like a mental [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► picture you know I look at the course of [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► a year and I have scope it out as a [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► geography yeah but I can't quite in all [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► the men on a map just give me an idea [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► how the terrain works yeah [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► but the maps sometimes require maps [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► sometimes require that you understand [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► the physical property of of the thing [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► that you're doing right this is why it's [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► so hard to make a map shirt cut yeah [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► right so if you don't understand what [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► sound is how can you make a map of it [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► and how much can you understand what [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► sound is unless you really study sound [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► you can't just like oh so did some waves [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► like yeah alright waves but like sound [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► going through a box [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► mm-hmm that that's electricity it's one [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► of those things were like you when you [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► if you try to ask for the short version [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► you're gonna find yourself moving up and [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► up and up in the stack to like something [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► you you thought you knew but didn't [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► really understand you need to understand [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► before as a predicate like before you [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► get to this other thing correct it's the [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► predicate what even is sound what it [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► what even is it and so you know so I [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► said and I'm talking to engineers and [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► they're like yeah well you just you know [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► it's just yeah yes this is just you just [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► put a shelf on the bus and I go I don't [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► even yeah okay but what is what am I [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► trying for and then then the problem is [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► it's all they'll look at you and they're [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► just like we'll just do it till it [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► sounds good it's like yeah okay but it [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► sort of said it sort of sounds [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► differently good every direction anyway [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► so I took a class from a noted engineer [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► producer and it was me and like four [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► other people and he walked us through it [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► was like three days we I went down and [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► stayed in a hotel and poor [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► Londyn went to three days worth of being [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► in the studio Wow learning all the stuff [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► and I came out of there exactly as [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► ignorant as I was when I went in and [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► through no fault of the class but just [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► that there's a fundamental comprehension [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► that I am lacking that the class didn't [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► address because it's not that wasn't [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► under the within the purview of the [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► class and I think you went straight into [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► algebra 2 yeah yeah it's just like oh [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► well here you go [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► just run it in here and bust it over [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► here and put a shelf on it over here and [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► I was still sitting there with a dunce [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► cap on going but what is sound huh or [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► what are we what are we doing what are [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► we manipulating like how does how does [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► me going like good job things are gonna [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► get easier turn into electricity that [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► goes into these things and is [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► manipulated by your knobs and out the [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► other side I get it I mean I get it I've [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► heard it a thousand times but I just [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► don't get it I think there's another [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► problem [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► maybe just because I know so very little [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► and all I ever do is twiddle it till it [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► sounds good to me [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► yeah with my dumb bad ears but like okay [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► here's a phenomenon that I used to be on [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► one end of and I'm now on the other end [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► of used to always be on the end of some [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► dingus you came through a phenomenon [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► you're on the other end of it well yeah [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► and I'm not loving it but but you've [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► been on the end of the phenomenon where [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► some dingus is using the computer and [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► they're not doing it fast enough or [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► smart enough for you and you're like no [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► no just click click file file not there [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► up there click man [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► click that click that because for some [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► reason when you're driving you're blind [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► like you don't see stuff like have you [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► ever noticed and so the other end of [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► that now is like when I'm using the [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► computer my daughter is constantly [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► frustrated that I'm not doing the thing [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► that she thinks she would do faster I [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► think there should be a there's probably [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► a name for this but there is a [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► phenomenon when somebody else is doing [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► the physical enough it's a modal thing [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► but when one person is doing a physical [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► manipulation the other [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► person sees things more clearly right [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► and I bet that goes five times more with [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► audio we're one nice reason to have [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► somebody in the room with you [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► engineering is that they are they know [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► how that machine works and what sound [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► makes and then they you're able to have [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► like two sets of years working on it [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► yeah do you know what I'm saying though [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► absolutely well that's what's wonderful [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► about recording for me is that when some [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► when some tiny tiny adjustment is made [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► to the sound by a knob I perceive it and [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► also have an opinion about it and want [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► it to be this or that and I know enough [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► about the words that I can say Allen [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► just put a little bit more shelf on that [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► bus mm-hm [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► and the engineer is like yep right and [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► he does it and it's exact and I was [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► right mm-hmm [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► I have no idea though what because I'm [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► just talking in I'm just making I'm [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► casting spells you know I'm like just I [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► learned some spells Wizards way and the [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► thing is also your quality control gets [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► weird because like everybody knows I [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► don't know if they still call it this [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► but there used to be something called an [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► aural enhancer where if you put an aural [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► enhancer on something it suddenly sounds [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► a lot fresher but you also don't want to [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► sound too fresh you don't want to sound [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► Arlyn hansteen I'm saying I do that goes [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► for compression that echoes for [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► equalization that goes for a limiting [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► that goes for so many things there's [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► another example this has gone around a [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► lot over the years where people who [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► insist they can tell like tiny [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► differences between quality of like [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► audio formats they found that you can [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► trick almost anybody into thinking [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► something sounds better by making it [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► slightly louder than the other examples [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► that does sound better [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► well like the guy I forget exactly there [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► was one famous guy maybe nuno [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► bettencourt [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► or something somebody well who said that [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► they forget it wasn't Todd Rundgren but [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► somebody liked to put 3/4 used up nine [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► volts in their effects boxes because the [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► 3/4 used up battery [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► it's a warmer center you know the French [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► battery the sound source battery no [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► rattle that's just that's too much but [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► we do this all the time in mixing [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► records where the record just sounds [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► amazing when you your make you sitting [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► in the studio you're mixing it through [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► your NS tens and which are terrible [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► sounding but everybody uses them and [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► we're all like that's great and then and [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► then the engineer says we'll listen to [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► them on headphones and you put the [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► headphones on you're like oh no this [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► sounds terrible yeah and you cannot just [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► mix something hearing it through one [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► source and that is the real [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► destabilizing thing because you have to [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► because mixing is such a delicate art [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► and the room and other people's sweat [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► and and if you're only listening to like [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► one like you meet all the other tracks [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► you listen to one on the isolated track [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► like you're not going to hear that the [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► same way once you bring up the bass and [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► the drums stuff like that bringing up [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► that bass you know I mean that sounds [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► like an obvious thing but that's the [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► other thing is like is there's no [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► shortcut really to saying like well we [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► want to fill the entire musical spectrum [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► I mean people I imagine that is very [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► intuitive and that you do that once once [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► you've got all the levels and sounds [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► kind of how you want then the really [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► artful thing it seems to me is being [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► able to make it all sound good together [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► which is almost impossibly hard and you [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► fuck yourself up but if you change one [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► thing wrong and then you go and listen [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► your car and you're like what doesn't [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► sound anything like it should sound and [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► it's quiet you listen you know that new [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► portugal demand song which I'm gonna [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► keep referring to because everybody in [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► the country's got it stuck in their head [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► it's very catchy they're these according [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► to my daughter they're the third most [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► popular band at her school Wow who are [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► the other two she didn't say no kidding [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► no but she was listened to in the shower [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► i tutored about this a couple weeks ago [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► I was like what is that song she's like [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► it's par to call the man there's like [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► Portugal period though man like it's [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► okay it's not at all what I expected I [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► thought I was gonna be mopey Portland [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► beard music mmm no and they they have [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► made quite a bit of like psychedelic [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► music I mean it doesn't sound like them [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► they're their hit song [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► okay Torchic like their music is I I [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► think you would like I think you would [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► like it they are their Portland there by [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► way of by way of Alaska while Scylla [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► Alaska so they're from B F motherfucking [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► E as we say yes in the north [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► like Wasilla now is not the Wasilla of [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► their childhoods and certainly not that [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► was so low my child got a hell of a flag [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► in Wasilla am i in my life [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► wha Silla I mean you could you could [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► carry a gun into the 7-eleven in Wasilla [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► could do that now wow you might be [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► working probably it's it's a wide spot [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► in the road yeah [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► and the road isn't very wide but those [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► guys there they're fun they're taking [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► the piss but if you listen to the bass [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► sound on that track it's already a very [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► cool sound coming out of the gate the [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► bass has its own tone that's pretty [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► unusual for a contemporary pop song and [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► and when it comes in the first time I [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► really listen to the tune and and I [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► heard it start with this bass line my [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► feeling was there's no way they're gonna [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► be able to sustain that bass sound [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► through the track because it's it's a [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► very individual bass sound but it's like [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► that's not gonna pop that's not gonna [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► punch through it's not gonna it's not [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► gonna be sufficient because it's such a [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► nuance to tone but then in the [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► production of the song which I think was [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► produced by like Mike D and Danger Mouse [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► mm-hmm I mean it's like oh that makes a [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► lot of sense something right now it's a [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► very unusual bass tone yeah somehow this [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► totally is clunky and it's got a little [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► bit like a slap back mm-hmm and some hip [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► some reverb it's pretty 60 sounding it [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► sounds almost like flat wound strings [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► and you just wouldn't think that it [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► would it would manage on on contemporary [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► radio [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► but the production is so good that it [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► get that that they're able to keep this [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► like kind of bass sound going and it's [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► and it really propels it really propels [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► the song but but it's one thing to get a [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► tone like that in the studio and be like [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► oh that's a cool bass sound but to [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► commit to it stick to it and make it [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► work I mean that's that's real artistry [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► and it's what distinguishes that song [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► from from everything else that's on the [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► radio right now which is just like yeah [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► excuse me that's Carol that's fine [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► microphone you're gonna get that right [TS]

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00:27:38 ◼   ► line and all the great shows and all the [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► great shows I have a podcast called [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► friendly fire now you might have heard [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► about it's a war movie and in the first [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► episode apparently I took a bite of [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► something or something oh no no I don't [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► remember doing this it's very unusual [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► for me to have a sandwich [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► during the recording you know how do you [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► have any recollection of it I have none [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► no no recollection but this podcast is [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► on the maximum fun dot network [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► mmm-hmm and their fans are very [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► particular mm-hmm as you may recall [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► you've had some you've had some [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► association with that yeah that's and [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► run-ins with maximum fun I've dealt with [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► that over the years oh sure I was [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► listening to a maximum fun podcast this [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► morning with your with your your tuned [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► departure in it [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► oh yes the baboons [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► and those guys those guys also say their [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► fans are very particular [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► oh very Hardy that's why they don't use [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► Twitter so much anymore oh because they [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► get yelled at does Travis need to speak [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► in that particularly peak tone quite [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► that loudly I got a dear sir really [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► yelled at the guy I was like what did [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► you intend this service of yeah are you [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► trying to make me feel good about five [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► times a day John I don't do that it's so [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► hard not to I don't usually do it but [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► hey that seemed kind of hurtful yeah I'm [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► not asking for an apology but like I [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► think you didn't realize that what you [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► said was a little bit hurtful we had the [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► other day somebody loved our recent [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► episode of Dubai Friday so much they [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► said that from now on Max's father [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► should be on instead of Max every [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► episode Lal and that's a little bit [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► hurtful that's but yeah I know you being [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► fun and having fun with that but that's [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► a little bit hurtful yeah yeah I yelled [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► at this guy for the for the length of [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► three tweets dear sir and and he wrote [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► back and he was like I thought you would [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► think that was funny why not get [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► offended Yeah right my god hostility is [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► love on Twitter but anyway the fact that [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► I apparently took a bite of a sandwich [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► and now I've checked with some other [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► people that I podcast with and I and I [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► need to check in with you but I think [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► Dan Benjamin your good friend Dan yeah [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► Dan said that on the first podcast I did [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► with him I took a bite of a sandwich [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► hmm and I'm not sure I believe this I it [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► would require that I bring a sandwich [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► I'm not here to eat your shorts but I'll [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► just tell you that's a reference that [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► for one no no I don't think you eat [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► sometimes we both drink something I've [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► been told that you can hear this a lot [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► in my podcasts or better put like you [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► hear like a Seltzer cam being put down [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► oh I have heard that mmm I tried you [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► hear the train in the background I mean [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► you might have a squeaky chair you can [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► hear that very chair wait but I just [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► want to tell you you know you're that's [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► snort you just did that is an old-school [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► OG b fe d Wasilla jon Roderick's north [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► you don't do so much anymore you used to [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► be a huge snorter and now you once you [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► don't snort you don't you used to snort [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► a lot and now you don't snort as much do [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► people really I would do a snort I try [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► hard not to snort and then sometimes I [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► listen back to something especially if [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► it's in the kind of informal before or [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► after show part that ends up somewhere I [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► make a lot of mouth sounds so I you know [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► I have a voice that comes from a husky [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► place oh yeah yeah it comes sarcophagus [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► there's like you're like oh like a plate [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► reverb man that's coming from deep [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► inside far inside your vessel yeah yeah [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► it's a kind of it's a sound it's why I [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► don't like the sound of my own voice [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► when I hear it because it just sounds [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► very there's a lot of other tones in it [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► a kind of I hate I hate to use the [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► phrase this is one that's gonna haunt me [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► but it's it's a little bit flu Matic oh [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► you get a little bit rattled [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► yeah there's just some there's some self [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► ride no no I I have I have pure tone I'm [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► right no it's like a natural kind of you [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► know amount of something I bring my I [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► bring my whole body into the into the [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► sound if we recorded it a different time [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► of day I'll speak for this program you [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► and I would probably have fewer noises [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► that we're making a lot of what we're [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► making our morning noises or exam we're [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► grown men we're grown-ass men and we [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► make morning noises I've thought about [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► trying to record a song in them in like [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► in the early morning because the because [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► my voice has a very distinctive tone [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► that I would love to capture in a song [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► this world-weary yeah and kind of just [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► like I could get much lower in the [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► morning just get all the Stephen Merritt [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► kind of like in probably low voice [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► probably but I hear you know I hear [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► people you and I both when we start [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► sentences sometimes you know we start up [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► a little higher and then we come down [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► low you're famous up there and then it [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► just like a pachinko game it just serves [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► if you just didn't like off there you [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► hear all those voices in the voice III I [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► hear a lot of voiceover work being done [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► now I'm conscious of voiceover work and [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► and although I do feel that there's [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► something like deeply wrong with the [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► sound of my voice I when I hear other [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► people doing voiceover work I think that [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► wait a minute mm-hmm I could certainly [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► do that better than them I mean I'd need [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► my tooth back Oh is there a certain like [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► Jean I think you do great without the [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► tooth death is there a certain like [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► genre of voiceover work where you feel [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► that that's prevalent is this in link [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► your first-person shooter games you like [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► to play could it be an ad for nachos [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► public service announcement overhead at [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► the air [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► poor like what are the kinds of ones [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► that really get your goat I already do [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► the overhead at the airport here it's I [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► thought I recognized that yeah hi [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► welcome to SeaTac Airport [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► don't leave your luggage from long [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► winter please don't leave your luggage [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► unattended by the baggage carousel right [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► thank you please move to the right [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► faster people to go by on the moving [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► sidewalk hi this is John Rutter from the [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► long winter there's no parking or [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► waiting in the red zone hi [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► hi this is John Roberts in long last the [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► white area is for loading and unloading [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► I feel like who was the guy who was the [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► guy from Northern Exposure that does all [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► that voice of Hong Kong Vancouver no the [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► other guy John John Corbett John Corbett [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► he's the radio boy radio show on I think [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► he had the radio she's on Corvis I don't [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► know it's been a long time since I saw [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► that TV I just like saying hauling [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► vanqor [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► which one was he oh he's the older fella [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► with the money the one that's like in [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► all the movies [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► he's the movie star he plays the millet [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► he plays the millionaire the astronaut [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► is that my getting the name right what's [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► in here Master Hung we're hauling van [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► cool naturalized citizen owns and [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► manages the brick a barn restaurant [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► which is the center of social life and [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► says no that's a different that's a [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► different one he's the he's the blondie [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► guy he's not the you know who's the old [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► guy that played the general in war game [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► so am I thinking of yeah all right [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► that's the guy that I'm thinking of war [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► games oh yeah that guy what's his name [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► war games anyway continue so John [TS]