0:00:00I believe steve is going to get his kid
0:00:02on the show before i get mine on that's
0:00:04amazing all eat it smells yeah seriously
0:00:14the incomparable number 100 third be
0:00:19march 2013 so Scott lay it on me
0:00:26alright well so like I said there are
0:00:28reason I have very different reasons for
0:00:30liking different episodes and really I
0:00:34just like all of the episodes but I
0:00:35could really say that because that's
0:00:37just lame and now that i'm rewatching in
0:00:40order these episodes are fresh in my
0:00:42mind so I the first one that picture
0:00:45from the first season obviously I didn't
0:00:47like where no man has gone before mostly
0:00:49because Gary Mitchell oh yeah is a cool
0:00:51character great great episode may or may
0:00:54not appear in star trek into darkness so
0:00:56weird weird uh looking because it's a
0:00:59pilot so the uniforms are different
0:01:01that's all
0:01:02but but so tragic right that he's like
0:01:04he's Kirk's best friend is basically
0:01:06what we're told and because it's the
0:01:08pilot episode you know
0:01:09sure okay and then and then he gets a
0:01:12little glowy eyes and and becomes the
0:01:15murderous horrible killer best friend i
0:01:18look forward to seeing more of you are
0:01:20well and if the pilot we have our first
0:01:22instance of the man who suddenly becomes
0:01:24omnipotent yeah it's true and he has to
0:01:27wear crazy silver a contact lenses ouch
0:01:30aah when I watched it before I never
0:01:33really correctly that you know they were
0:01:35contact lenses now i'm watching it on
0:01:37the blu-ray and it's very high
0:01:39resolution and it is clear that those
0:01:41things must have been incredibly painful
0:01:43to wear their rotoscoped in some places
0:01:46but not others because that scene where
0:01:49where it fades out you can still see his
0:01:51eyes and that's because the rotoscope
0:01:53was still hair and made left it because
0:01:56it was super creepy but yes even the
0:01:59fade-out could not stop his eyes the
0:02:02eyes are pretty creepy i have to say and
0:02:04apparently he shared Gary Mitchell they
0:02:06had contact lenses that they had to
0:02:07where he can only wear them for a couple
0:02:08minutes because they are excruciatingly
0:02:10painful and he could see through a pin
0:02:11holes so that's why you had to hold his
0:02:13head back so he could see people which
0:02:16is kind of course it also features the
0:02:18tombstone of James are Kirk that
0:02:22well it shows that Gary was not
0:02:24omnipotent can certainly played a
0:02:26practical joke and said that his middle
0:02:27name was Roy and it wasn't also Sally
0:02:31Kellerman is in that episode and she's
0:02:33she's really great too
0:02:34yes so that's fun episode i also like
0:02:38Charlie X with the weird Charlie act the
0:02:42weird
0:02:42Charlie guy Anthony you know wishing
0:02:44people the cornfield mentioned that
0:02:46earlier and it ends recently
0:02:48space seed course of course column is
0:02:54introduced i watch that today to that
0:02:56that is a good that it's a good episode
0:02:57although the the sexism in that episode
0:03:00was really awful i have to say because
0:03:03they introduced Marla MacGyver's the the
0:03:06historian and from the very first scene
0:03:08she's basically terrible at her job and
0:03:10all she wants to do is be in love with
0:03:12the pretty man that they're thawing out
0:03:14of the Botany Bay that's what historians
0:03:17do
0:03:17she's a heck of a painter though I said
0:03:18to my family as I was watching it so
0:03:20moral of this episode is don't let women
0:03:22be officers on the spaceship
0:03:24it's really good it's so bad so bad
0:03:27great but but Montalban
0:03:29I mean it's if you put you could tell
0:03:32what episodes the writers of structure
0:03:34to watched before they wrote star trek
0:03:36to basically watch space seed and
0:03:38corbomite maneuver and put them together
0:03:41Montalban so good you almost believe
0:03:42he's indian you almost well I mean they
0:03:45don't know whether they change i think
0:03:47at least they changed his hair he looks
0:03:49could sort of like he could be siiick
0:03:51until he speaks and then he's got his
0:03:53his act normal accent rich Corinthian
0:03:56accent but but but he's so great i mean
0:03:59i say we i could see why you'd watch
0:04:01that episode and say oh this is is is
0:04:04Ricardo Montalban available because this
0:04:06is what we should do this is said yeah I
0:04:11remember my early days on the bustling
0:04:13streets of Calcutta although the
0:04:15potholes in that episode where where
0:04:17where kirtle gives him a sure mr.
0:04:21mysterious man who seemed vaguely
0:04:23threatening read all of our technical
0:04:25information and then later where he
0:04:27where he convenes this whole like trial
0:04:31only to say i'm dropping all the charges
0:04:33were going to be me down to a planet
0:04:35good luck
0:04:35you tried to take over my sugar no hard
0:04:38feelings because I think you're kinda
0:04:41cool even though you tried to kill me
0:04:43i'm giving you a planet seems weird have
0:04:46a feeling that whole scenario probably
0:04:48turned out okay though i'm sure it's out
0:04:50of here it's just hard but we discussed
0:04:53in the star trek to episode how most of
0:04:56Starfleet crew seemed to be borderline
0:04:59income
0:05:01yeah it's it's just it's strange that
0:05:03they get anything seats to fill seats to
0:05:05fill study out 45 seems fine it'll be
0:05:08fine
0:05:09the historian is is just an example of
0:05:11what it's like on most of the other
0:05:12ships throughout the powerfully truth as
0:05:14bumbling idiots
0:05:16yeah going through uh let's see
0:05:19Oh a taste of Armageddon i like because
0:05:21when i was a kid it just blew my mouth
0:05:23that they would have a the computers
0:05:25fighting wars and then calculate
0:05:27casualties and then people were just
0:05:29willingly go into booths and I that's
0:05:31good that's got a nice twilight zone
0:05:33feel to it to the whole submitting to
0:05:35death business
0:05:36I'm glad you mentioned that Scott
0:05:37because that is on my list very high up
0:05:39and you know in some ways it's the
0:05:41archetype star trek episode because you
0:05:43know Kirk is supposed to not interfere
0:05:45with other cultures and he totally just
0:05:48then he whatever worldwide computer
0:05:50controls your culture he will destroy it
0:05:52legend I love that I that is one of my
0:05:54certainly one of my top 5 a and it is
0:05:58because of all the things that make the
0:06:00original Star Trek break that it's got
0:06:01the social commentary it's a very much a
0:06:03cold war story i love the idea that
0:06:06technology has allowed these people to
0:06:08make war palatable and that Kirk comes
0:06:12and basically says I'm going to break
0:06:14your computer's if you want to kill each
0:06:15other you're gonna have to actually kill
0:06:17each other and he's so aghast by how
0:06:20clean they made it and how they're just
0:06:22going to send people to these this
0:06:23horrific idea that the computers like
0:06:24your number comes up and they just send
0:06:26you to the disintegration chamber and
0:06:28people go it's like well I'm a casualty
0:06:29I've got to go and it's it's just it's
0:06:33mind-blowing it's it's so great i mean
0:06:35if i don't go people might actually die
0:06:38yeah that and then so i'll just go and
0:06:41then is going disintegrated and that and
0:06:44that Kirk's reaction is basically this
0:06:46is crap i I'm gonna go bro
0:06:49I'm gonna break their society because I
0:06:51can't allow this to continue as more or
0:06:52less just a prime guideline in season 1
0:06:54prime suggestion but he's totally right
0:06:57so it's got that it's got that's kind of
0:06:59social twist about about nuclear war and
0:07:01mutually assured destruction all of that
0:07:03that's going on and and it's got i just
0:07:07i love i love a taste of Armageddon it's
0:07:10it's kirk at his best at saying you know
0:07:13I don't care I don't care your society
0:07:16stupid studies really stupid and I don't
0:07:19screw it up and you're gonna have to
0:07:21figure it out no we only don't mess with
0:07:23the non stupid society I'm sorry yeah I
0:07:25who am I to judge
0:07:27alright Starfleet captain that's who i
0:07:29am i'm gonna ask your computer society
0:07:33stupid your hats or twice the stupid
0:07:35yeah yeah bad hats but what Spock ones
0:07:38one well we kid Landrieu we could lay
0:07:40drew involved and all the other admitted
0:07:43computer's been around here in norman
0:07:44they kind of have that the whole off the
0:07:46shoulder thing going in that episode 2
0:07:48it's the inventory ins and all of that
0:07:50you know it's just like James Kirk is
0:07:52tired of your crap he's gonna turn off
0:07:54your computer and hey if you want to
0:07:56fight you gotta fight like for real
0:07:58that's enough to deal with it i love i
0:08:00love that episode so I'm glad you
0:08:01mentioned it Scott because I don't think
0:08:03he gets enough credit
0:08:04I i think i think we great episode it is
0:08:06it is so awesome
0:08:08yeah so good that i mock time we talked
0:08:10about yet mirror mirror i love because
0:08:13Spock is evil with the disappeared
0:08:16Oh probably forgot to mention that one
0:08:18the goatee so great of Captain Kirk has
0:08:21a machine in his crib in his quarters
0:08:23that lets you basically like find anyone
0:08:26on the ship and make them disappear
0:08:27which is awesome we should get into the
0:08:30cornfield the space cornfield
0:08:33yeah and it introduces the whole mirror
0:08:35universe which is just going to thing
0:08:37installed mine forever Syria did they
0:08:40make it a little too much but I just
0:08:42like any thing that happens in the
0:08:44mirror her universe they make it
0:08:47appropriately
0:08:48did you know that there are whole
0:08:49parallel universes where the American
0:08:51flag has red stripes or the white
0:08:53stripes shall be no worries II just
0:08:56insane
0:08:57I just love that episode because what's
0:08:59not to love about that doesn't like it's
0:09:02so great that Spock and spoke with the
0:09:04beard that's like the evil duplicate has
0:09:07a beard is no I think it's is the thing
0:09:09because of the success yeah this is
0:09:11another way that Star Trek is shaped by
0:09:13society
0:09:14i like the little twist there to where
0:09:15there's the one character in the mirror
0:09:16universe we don't know which is that
0:09:18curse girlfriend who's his accomplice
0:09:20and then at the very end she's been
0:09:22assigned to the enterprise i love that
0:09:23twist where it's like oh and now here's
0:09:25your mirror this universe it's nice
0:09:29that's interesting that the evil Kirk
0:09:30can have a girlfriend but the good kirk
0:09:32has the enterprise instead
0:09:35that's right that's his girl yep only if
0:09:37he were evil would he have a room in his
0:09:38life for a woman that's an important
0:09:43lesson for us all i think yeah and if
0:09:45you talk about I talk about episodes
0:09:47influential and the spin-offs later I
0:09:49mean the Deep Space nine producers could
0:09:51not get enough of the laminator of
0:09:53mining this episode and and quite right
0:09:56I've made it and made those are fun
0:09:57episodes too so yeah I remember when
0:10:00those came on i was so excited because
0:10:01it's like oh yeah because i love that I
0:10:03love that episode and in their
0:10:04universities like you know we leave
0:10:06mirror mirror and it's like Spock is
0:10:07gonna basically overthrow everything and
0:10:10make everything good which is great and
0:10:12you FaceTime we learned that leads to
0:10:14them being horribly destroyed because
0:10:15they're weak then because they're nice
0:10:18and yeah i mean that's great just to see
0:10:21you know these characters this is in the
0:10:22second season so you kind of the
0:10:24characters are established and then the
0:10:25picture because the opposite of what
0:10:27they are so it's an interesting take on
0:10:29it and apparently the prime directive
0:10:31does not apply to parallel universes
0:10:32either know he pretty much door except
0:10:36that one does not apply it doesn't
0:10:38really apply anywhere
0:10:39yeah it's not a big believer in the
0:10:40front directive is the prime directive
0:10:42mentioned in the original series I just
0:10:44yeah
0:10:45oh I always really watching next-gen I
0:10:48was just like I basically read it as
0:10:50like in you know don't be late in
0:10:52response to captain it's not not even
0:10:55our prime directive is really that to
0:10:57how often does it mention it is like you
0:10:59know a while have half of those Rome /
0:11:03Nazi / Chicago episodes are
0:11:05are showing the the unwise miss of
0:11:08violating the prime directive because
0:11:10most of them were caused by some dude
0:11:12from Starfleet I just feel like like
0:11:14even if Kirk isn't big on it you think
0:11:15like other people should be like xbox
0:11:17and have a thing we say like I know you
0:11:20do whatever you want but I'm required by
0:11:21protocol remind you that the prime
0:11:23directive you know now continue
0:11:25Kurdistan believer
0:11:27he'll give it lift lip service but when
0:11:29he can when he can destroy the planet
0:11:31there the computer that is dominating
0:11:33the planet will do it
0:11:34yeah you know so that becomes really
0:11:36important when they're stuck in ancient
0:11:38Rome for some reason it's well you have
0:11:42to draw a line somewhere
0:11:44yes well Scott ah well I way we did mock
0:11:48these two episodes already but I do in
0:11:50fact like a piece of the action and
0:11:51patterns of course I like patterns of
0:11:53force mostly because they're nazis in it
0:11:54yeah and it's always fun to see ya Nazi
0:11:56know you love that
0:11:58how do we got scott once again going on
0:12:00audio record for his patterns of force
0:12:02is not about again planet the Nazis
0:12:04makes it sound wacky and stupid but it's
0:12:07at it it is this is it is very is always
0:12:10kind of what it's about is a guy who
0:12:12gets obsessed I mean you hear these
0:12:13people that there were always people who
0:12:15would say you know in this really
0:12:17disturbing way like well you know Hitler
0:12:19kind of have the right idea but it was
0:12:20just a little misguided room he took it
0:12:22too far if he just hadn't done all that
0:12:24you know that you killing and all that
0:12:25stuff the rest of it was good
0:12:27the roads were nice yeah so John Gill in
0:12:30patterns of force is that guy and he
0:12:33tried his tries to work it out and no it
0:12:37doesn't work it does not work it's
0:12:38fundamentally evil it's not a bad and
0:12:41he's like decrepit and dying and then
0:12:44dead and uses a figurehead and its
0:12:46really it's not it's not a bad episode
0:12:48at all
0:12:49no I like it yeah I mean I'd it does
0:12:51kind of have a feel of hey look we have
0:12:53these leftover Nazi Nazi uniform she
0:12:55also wore to wasn't that long ago and
0:12:58you know even even still I think it's a
0:13:00pretty good and see my great you know
0:13:02Kirk and Spock Spock wearing a helmet
0:13:04the entire time to hide his ears natural
0:13:06and piece of the action is just a comedy
0:13:09episode like trouble I think I'd better
0:13:10i think it's funnier than trouble with
0:13:12tribbles i love the scene when he
0:13:13distracts the gangsters by teaching them
0:13:15for this Ben isn't
0:13:17yes that's the whole reason i love this
0:13:18episode except at night on thursday and
0:13:22it would and vic tayback from alice is
0:13:24in this episode one of the game's see
0:13:26now it's always good to see mouth and
0:13:28there's and Spock has a hat again and a
0:13:31suit and a machine gun I'd advise you to
0:13:34keep styling idea Curt bone full 90 yeah
0:13:38I recall an important factor Nemo has an
0:13:40SS uniform
0:13:41alright in patterns of force but in a
0:13:43piece of the action they're both done up
0:13:44like like gangsters with the with the
0:13:46pinstripe suits and all that and that's
0:13:48right you know and so and super funny
0:13:51and uh and Scotty has to translate
0:13:55gangster speak into under Federation
0:13:59speak heaters are all phasers are right
0:14:03i love that I love piece of the action
0:14:05the kid that like wants to be cut in for
0:14:07a piece of the action when Kirk like
0:14:09conspires with the kid to fake the kid
0:14:11like hurting himself and so they can get
0:14:13into the yeah it's that I love piece of
0:14:15the action is great
0:14:16that's one of my that's one of my favs
0:14:18and it's and it's really it's underrated
0:14:20because trouble with tribbles get all
0:14:21the acclaim piece of the action just as
0:14:22funny that's it's hard to be the trouble
0:14:25with a gangster
0:14:26it's your Vic tabak not as cuddly as a
0:14:29triple it's true it's a but i will say
0:14:32for patterns of force that you get not
0:14:34only shirtless shirtless Kirk but
0:14:36shirtless Spock
0:14:37oh yes you do because they have to get
0:14:39the little manacles off in the laser
0:14:40that's right thing
0:14:42the light ya light bulb laser and it
0:14:46work spoke is that good okay he's
0:14:48MacGyver Vulcan my god that's got the
0:14:50whole comedy bit with him standing on
0:14:52Kirk's recently with back and say me who
0:14:57tortured that's that's the episode also
0:14:59where they stand the planet
0:15:00I didn't I wasn't sure how that worked
0:15:02but is that a row in in piece of the
0:15:04action made likes done a whole city
0:15:06block right yeah from space you know
0:15:10no you're not yes you know maybe those
0:15:13people they all have cancer now but it's
0:15:15making you have answer yes they're
0:15:18gangsters but what you mentioned a space
0:15:20madness a lot in the first few episodes
0:15:22of Star i just i go i remember that the
0:15:24the stunning is conveniently green so
0:15:26it's like you know it's just green light
0:15:28all over the city block everyone
0:15:30I sure that red light red light would be
0:15:32bad in keeping with the gangster theme
0:15:34the entire planet now has syphilis sorry
0:15:37huh oops yeah minor side effect with the
0:15:40stun setting of the enterprise phasers
0:15:42that is a common side effect of of
0:15:45Captain Kirk visiting places so and Kirk
0:15:49goes syphilis frequently follows you
0:15:51know basic stuff up space syphilis what
0:15:56happens when the Federation comes and
0:15:58declares prohibition over the whole
0:16:00planet just shut down at us
0:16:02oh by the way again talking about tropes
0:16:05that are replayed later in korba might
0:16:07maneuver they do the whole you will be
0:16:12destroyed in 10 of your earth minutes
0:16:14which I cannot at the time i'm sure it
0:16:17was fine but I cannot listen to 10 of
0:16:20your earth minutes without laughing now
0:16:22you don't look for you know when you
0:16:24have a villain you want them to do the
0:16:26unit conversion for you yeah just it
0:16:28looks really awkward if you die like
0:16:30while you're doing the math on your
0:16:31fingers to try and figure out how much
0:16:33how many minutes is that inner 30
0:16:34minutes
0:16:35yeah you will die in 17 orbits one
0:16:38doctor who that was exactly it's like
0:16:39the Daleks are not as as kind as as
0:16:42Baylock isn't that they're like you will
0:16:44be destroyed in 10 rels like what the
0:16:46hell're rels is that second is that
0:16:48minutes is that ours
0:16:50I don't know converted for hang on let
0:16:52me get on google yeah yeah they're not
0:16:54known for this rights reserved 17 rails
0:16:56in earth minutes your minutes are
0:16:59irrelevant
0:17:00sorry your earth minutes 4 minutes space
0:17:04dollars
0:17:05oh it's it's like it's like 40 years ok
0:17:08I'm going then we've got time you go
0:17:11right ahead with the seven rules okay
0:17:14Scott what else
0:17:15oh I didn't mention we mentioned Scotty
0:17:18and so just a funny aside the first
0:17:20episode where Scotty makes an appearance
0:17:21i was watching with my wife and she said
0:17:23who is that and I said that Scotty and
0:17:26she said it does have a mustache like
0:17:28okay it's scotty trust me movie Scotty
0:17:31has a mustache movies gonna have lost
0:17:33that is very large a TV show
0:17:36Scotty they had clean shaven know much
0:17:38for that mustache
0:17:40yeah it's important it's like a
0:17:41different guy
0:17:42it's true I stolen web I I pic right
0:17:46because I i liked the web and it also is
0:17:49a callback it's called back in
0:17:51enterprise
0:17:52yes which I like so yeah I was again i
0:17:55have always captured my attention when
0:17:57Greg moss and I wrote our Star Trek The
0:18:00Next Generation spec script in college
0:18:02narrates it feat it featured yes i get i
0:18:07said next generation spec script Steve
0:18:09I'm I'm conceding we had the foliage
0:18:14says that has the bad guys in our in our
0:18:16script because the Tholian web was so
0:18:18cool but they didn't like our script so
0:18:20we had to wait until enterprise for them
0:18:22to come back to steal your idea you
0:18:24answer yeah that damn damn right
0:18:27also uh I just I like the fact that Kirk
0:18:29is presumed dead and everybody has to
0:18:30like there's a really nice scene with
0:18:32Spock and McCoy where they're basically
0:18:33like talking about what they're going to
0:18:35do now Kirk is dead and it's kind of
0:18:38cool while and then of course all the
0:18:40drama sapped away by Kirk appearing
0:18:42floating ghost-like to curtail her while
0:18:45she's wearing her underwear but goes Jim
0:18:49up until then
0:18:50yeah that's a normal thing yeah this
0:18:52kirk you know as a his machine in his
0:18:55quarters but matter her Kirk as a
0:18:58machine that can make people disappear
0:18:59regular cancer she that lets it project
0:19:02his ghostly image and women's quarters
0:19:05yeah that's my Kurt that would that
0:19:08would be a good would you rather
0:19:10actually haha and my final one we did
0:19:15mention and it is heavy-handed and i
0:19:19only like it because the Riddler isn't
0:19:21it uh the Year last battlefield I just
0:19:24enjoy a corsa question Frank Gorshin so
0:19:28it gets a plus one for me
0:19:30alright okay should I go I got my list
0:19:34to Jason most of them have been taken
0:19:35most of them but taking I've been
0:19:37talking about the corbomite maneuver
0:19:38there's something about it it's the
0:19:40first episode after they shot the pilots
0:19:42so it's trying to define what the show
0:19:44is going to be their surprise surprising
0:19:46amount of conversation about like
0:19:49shipboard life but it's got Kirk at his
0:19:51best right where he's just making things
0:19:53up
0:19:54ok like like post box
0:19:56like well we lost the chess match
0:19:57against it's over and we're all dead and
0:19:59Kirk's like no not chess bak poker and
0:20:03he's and he's like kayln frequencies
0:20:05open we've invented a thing that's where
0:20:07rubber and you're glue and everything
0:20:09bounces off of us and sticks to you good
0:20:11luck and you know cut it to her and this
0:20:16giant species like tell us more about
0:20:18your curve right Kirk thinkers and
0:20:22request denied and Emily well will tell
0:20:25you to a planet then it's so great that
0:20:27he that skirt right he's he's thinking
0:20:30him self out of these situations it's
0:20:33why i say that starter to where he does
0:20:35the whole thing with the prefix code I
0:20:36feel like it's lifted right out of the
0:20:38corbomite maneuver and of course then
0:20:39you get this great ending where this
0:20:42this alien that you've seen who looks
0:20:44super scary but also like a puppet
0:20:46because it's a puppet because he's an
0:20:48alien on Star Trek is a puppet neatly
0:20:50explains why the puppet is so poorly
0:20:52pick that one watching when I was
0:20:55watching that episode with my lady she
0:20:57was like that is so clearly a puppet
0:20:59think that's seriously wait for it and
0:21:01wait for it once again audience you know
0:21:05several steps ahead of the crowd
0:21:06enterprise yeah you know it's a put not
0:21:09not just a puppet a crudely meet action
0:21:11without arms yeah really isn't the whole
0:21:14corbomite gambit makes perfect sense
0:21:17because baloch being worldly in the ways
0:21:19of the universe surely knows that the
0:21:21galaxy is ripe with people that have
0:21:23ultimate power and continueth whatever
0:21:26they want at a moment's notice sure to
0:21:28show up all the time and Kirk might well
0:21:30be one of the beings of pure energy
0:21:32yeah corbomite exactly sounds like one
0:21:35of these two lane guys that's that's
0:21:37great that's so great so I like that
0:21:39episode so weird but it's great
0:21:41Scott mentioned a taste of Armageddon
0:21:42love that a lot
0:21:44we mentioned a mock time devil in the
0:21:46dark city village forever i want to
0:21:48mention the doomsday machine uh which is
0:21:50a real action adventure thing it's got
0:21:53William wyndham as Commodore Decker who
0:21:56has a in a great like tragic moment he
0:21:59beams his team he beams his crew down to
0:22:02a planet so that he can defeat this
0:22:04horrible machine and then the machine
0:22:06destroys the planet and leaves him alone
0:22:08so it's due
0:22:10his entire crew to death and he's the
0:22:11only survivor which is the opposite of
0:22:13what a captain he thinks he's doing the
0:22:15going down with the ship thing and it
0:22:17drives him insane and so then he takes
0:22:18command of the enterprise and and and
0:22:22there's a lot of great stuff in the in
0:22:24the remastered version where they
0:22:25because they went back and tried to redo
0:22:28all of the special effects and CGI and I
0:22:30think they were pretty faithful and and
0:22:32did a pretty good job actually I don't
0:22:33have a star wars kind of problem with it
0:22:36no I think they did it well but that
0:22:38episode actually looks great with the
0:22:41redone version because they couldn't
0:22:43like their multiple ships and there's
0:22:45you know and and in the old model stage
0:22:47they couldn't do it and into in the in
0:22:50the remastered version it looks great
0:22:52it's fast-paced and windows performances
0:22:56beeping he's he's he's crazy but it's
0:22:59great it's i love that episode it's it's
0:23:01a it's a real great fast-moving action
0:23:04adventure he's obsessed he's insane
0:23:06he's extremely well acted as Decker to
0:23:08ya he really gives off kind of that mean
0:23:12he seems like he's in control and yet
0:23:13there's that kind of undercurrent of
0:23:15this guy is going to do something insane
0:23:18very shortly here it's much more subtle
0:23:20than the acting you generally can't on
0:23:22the air is right right and Kirk loses
0:23:24command of a ship right which is the
0:23:25worst thing for Kirk right whenever he
0:23:27loses command of the ship that is he
0:23:29he's really upset and decker outranks
0:23:32him to basically says I'm gonna take
0:23:34your ship and destroy it
0:23:35you can't do anything about it may
0:23:37finally you know relieve him of duty and
0:23:39he steals a shuttlecraft and kills
0:23:41himself and and in doing so provides the
0:23:44way for the enterprise to survive as you
0:23:47do and i love the idea too that there's
0:23:49and this is this was lifted by star trek
0:23:52for it's a very similar concept of Star
0:23:54Trek for where there's a machine it's
0:23:55coming from like outside the galaxy from
0:23:58a race of beings you know beyond our
0:24:01comprehension and like literally it's
0:24:04just sort of like they left turned on
0:24:06and it's now destroying us because they
0:24:10weren't paying attention anymore and
0:24:12it's sort of demonstrate for you know
0:24:14that the machine that threatens earth is
0:24:16very similar to that and I like that
0:24:18it's kind of creepy that it's not an
0:24:20alien race that's out to get us it's an
0:24:22alien race that so it
0:24:23advanced that their detritus will
0:24:25completely destroy us and they don't
0:24:27care because it's just like junk that
0:24:29you know whatever let it go with 2nd
0:24:32deal with it
0:24:32yeah you're society's garbage over the
0:24:36galaxy was like wow yeah that episode
0:24:40was written by Norman Spinrad who is a
0:24:42very good science fiction right yeah
0:24:44yeah there's a lot of great scifi
0:24:46writers wrote a theater sturgeon wrote a
0:24:49bunch of like at least two star trek
0:24:51episodes too so so you mentioned where
0:24:53no man has gone before
0:24:54balance of terror I like arena a lot
0:24:57it's the Gorn yet to guide a lizard suit
0:25:02but I like that they're at Vasquez rocks
0:25:04the rock formation that's been in every
0:25:06sci-fi movie and TV show of all time
0:25:08ever but this is like the core of it
0:25:11where Kirk asta that essentially the the
0:25:14episode is being watched by the crew of
0:25:16the enterprise which i also love that
0:25:17like Spock and McCoy they're all on the
0:25:19bridge watching Kirk as he does the
0:25:21episode and commenting on it mystery
0:25:24science theater style almost like if you
0:25:27can find some coal and some diamonds
0:25:30that's got it he spewed out without I i
0:25:32do something about that i love i love
0:25:34that and i'm also a sucker for episode
0:25:36shot on location because so many of the
0:25:38alien planets and start record the
0:25:39Cyclorama things where it's the stand
0:25:42stage and it's very it's like got a pink
0:25:44sky and it's totally fake when it's not
0:25:47it's the the hills just outside of Los
0:25:48Angeles right well I love that it's it's
0:25:51California or a soundstage that's all
0:25:53they've got
0:25:53yeah I love it I love it when it's when
0:25:55it's the grapevine or bass rocks it
0:25:58makes me sad when it's the pink sound
0:25:59stage right yeah I'm so arena is good
0:26:03journey to Babel which I mentioned with
0:26:04with mark leonard as as as sorry xbox
0:26:08father and Jane Wyatt as Amanda his
0:26:11mother that's a fun episode because not
0:26:14only do we get that the the Vulcan stuff
0:26:17but there's this whole spy planes lots
0:26:19of alien races and yeah there's like a
0:26:20fake Andorian and liking guys
0:26:23rather the Tellarites that the pig
0:26:24aliens were were quite quarrelsome and
0:26:28and the blue and torian's and like
0:26:30little tiny guys who don't say anything
0:26:32but drink lots of space alcohols
0:26:37boos yeah uh and and there's that crazy
0:26:40spaceship that's like just like a
0:26:41pinpoint of light and it goes like warp
0:26:4310 but you but it's a it's on a suicide
0:26:46mission and so let's get this kind of
0:26:48spy feel + + this great series of
0:26:53escalating jeopardy kind of things we're
0:26:55sorry has a heart attack and he needs a
0:26:58blood transfusion and only spot can give
0:27:00it to him but then Kirk gets stabbed by
0:27:03a spy and so Kirk a spot can't give up
0:27:07command because he's now taking commands
0:27:10Kirk's been incapacitated so then his
0:27:12father is going to die so that Kirk
0:27:13fakes being better it gets on the bridge
0:27:17to send spot to go have the surgery and
0:27:19then Kirk is calling Scotty to come take
0:27:21over for him when the attack happens
0:27:23it's this great sequence of all of these
0:27:25things leading together that I really
0:27:27love just as an action-adventure kind of
0:27:30thing plus the whole detail like Spock's
0:27:32relationship with his father and that
0:27:34just i love i love that that's a DC
0:27:36fontana special look that's a really
0:27:39great episode and then the other two
0:27:42that we haven't mentioned that i wanted
0:27:43to bring up are the ultimate computer
0:27:45which is great because it's all about
0:27:48computers and technology replacing
0:27:51workers which is fascinating
0:27:54given that the time period it's
0:27:57basically i've invented the computer
0:27:58that can replace Captain Kirk
0:28:00so let's remove his chair and put a
0:28:02blinking computer in its place and of
0:28:04course the computer goes horribly bad
0:28:06and next attacking all the other star
0:28:09ships and all that and there's dr.
0:28:12daystrom who's a mad scientist to who
0:28:15you know I've invented the m5 it's so
0:28:18beautiful don't destroy my creation but
0:28:20but in and watching it it blows me away
0:28:23watching it now that that what what that
0:28:25episode is really about is like you know
0:28:29workers being replaced by technology
0:28:32which is a really interesting thing and
0:28:34and keeps happening
0:28:36that's just part of the march of
0:28:37technology and like when it one of the
0:28:39machines better than humans at doing a
0:28:42particular job at what happens to the
0:28:43people who are replaced which again I
0:28:46love the star trek tried to tackle
0:28:48issues like that
0:28:50de-stress backstory and that one is
0:28:51really cool too because he's he's the
0:28:53guy who peach too early and yeah there's
0:28:56one thing I ever did could could measure
0:28:58up to his earlier discoveries and right
0:29:00you got a little reckless towards the
0:29:01end because he was trying to do
0:29:03something is as impressive as his
0:29:05earlier try too hard and he realizes
0:29:08finally but he's you know he's gone
0:29:09horribly wrong and of course in the in
0:29:12the store trying to to do some things
0:29:15that are groundbreaking he's he's he's
0:29:17black so you get that kind of like he's
0:29:19the computed black computer genius which
0:29:21is casting that's a bold casting
0:29:23decision for 1968 which i think is cool
0:29:26to not not until diehard we see another
0:29:28one of his yeah that's right and
0:29:30terminator 2 ok but but i love i love i
0:29:35love that one and and again in the
0:29:37remastered effects when they've got like
0:29:38five different enterprise class ships
0:29:40they don't have one model anymore in the
0:29:42remaster effect so they can do some more
0:29:44interesting things then then we only
0:29:47have one look it's a ship and another
0:29:50ship but they never see them at the same
0:29:52time and then the other one i want to
0:29:54mention is what are little girls made of
0:29:56which is a more or it's an early first
0:30:01season more creepy it's like a Christine
0:30:03chapel episode kind of which is weird
0:30:06but it's it's got a TED Cassidy as the
0:30:10giant android ruck and it's it's gotta
0:30:16with christine chapels old boyfriend
0:30:18Roger Korby who is a man again a mad
0:30:20scientist and he transfers his
0:30:22consciousness into work into an android
0:30:24body and they're down in caves and and
0:30:27they try to make a duplicate of Kirk and
0:30:29I had that has III that episode always
0:30:33sticks with me is having some of like
0:30:34the worst wardrobe f 0 cuz there's to
0:30:37remember the android I i want to call
0:30:40the dresses but that's not really fair
0:30:41right there one there jumps and a
0:30:44jumpsuit partial torso cover and this
0:30:46yeah and then it right and they didn't
0:30:48like the black and the green half black
0:30:49half cream
0:30:50yeah it's like everyone has slides a
0:30:53gray yeah he's in monk's robes yeah you
0:30:56know giant spooky guy but it's so it's
0:30:58so like gothic and weird and Twilight
0:31:00Zone II don't know
0:31:01anything wheel with Kirk on it sure yeah
0:31:04that's actually exactly
0:31:06yes that excess was actually written by
0:31:08robert bloch yes I'm not a psycho
0:31:12yeah that's right and apparently also
0:31:13the short stories upon which catspaw and
0:31:16wolf in the fold yes sorry catspaw
0:31:18interesting but uh but I like that I
0:31:21like that episode because it is also one
0:31:23of those episodes where it's mostly down
0:31:25on the planet and it's kind of a you
0:31:28know again it's it's like I said it's
0:31:29that it's almost Twilight something it's
0:31:31not about the ships and it's about it's
0:31:33about we put these characters in this
0:31:35weird situation where they're down in
0:31:36these caves that are like go on forever
0:31:40you get the sense and it's this android
0:31:42like rock the android has been there for
0:31:44thousands of years and was found by
0:31:46Roger Korby and he remembers the old
0:31:48ones which were this whatever the race
0:31:50was that created them that has since
0:31:52disappeared or died or turned into a
0:31:54being of pure energy like you do on Star
0:31:57Trek happens but but but but it's kind
0:32:00of creepy that like you know the humans
0:32:01are playing around with all this
0:32:03technology and yet there's this big
0:32:04hulking eight android who remembers back
0:32:08when there were the really smart
0:32:10creatures who built this place and you
0:32:12guys are just fiddling around with their
0:32:13leavings and I I i like that so I like
0:32:16that episode and the ones that I don't
0:32:19like so miri which is the planet that
0:32:23looks exactly like Earth but isn't earth
0:32:25and all the adults die but the kids are
0:32:28alive don't do an episode with kids just
0:32:31don't haha this kitchen like 25 year old
0:32:34kid all I know that's that's true it's
0:32:35like every extra from at any kind of
0:32:38like 30 movie of like hey there
0:32:42I don't know tell them Jim tell them Jim
0:32:44telling Jim know blah blah blah
0:32:47I i like i like the idea behind that one
0:32:50a lot more than like the actual
0:32:51execution
0:32:52yeah that's right little children of the
0:32:54corn creepy kids exist and the parents
0:32:57are gone in some way it was
0:32:58yeah it is is a nice idea and it was
0:33:00actually mind a little better by Star
0:33:02Trek a little bit later with the and the
0:33:04children shall lead them right branches
0:33:06which is also kind of a bad episode but
0:33:08also slightly better in terms of you
0:33:11know Mary Mary's got some creepy parts
0:33:13of it because you know once you
0:33:15over the fact that this isn't a planet
0:33:16that's exactly like her if accept
0:33:18whatever like they shot us get over that
0:33:20uh the other day he got you know it's
0:33:24it's it's I don't understand that it
0:33:26makes no sense but but but is it is
0:33:28creepy because it spoke post-apocalyptic
0:33:30world and all that but it ends up being
0:33:32I don't know it falls apart i don't i
0:33:34don't like miri so much I I don't want
0:33:38to sorry she's very nice but whatever I
0:33:43the i put the alternative factor down on
0:33:46my list of hate episodes
0:33:47that's the one with Lazarus you may not
0:33:50even remember this episode it's dunno
0:33:52there's a there's a guy with a beard
0:33:54named Lazarus and he's got a shadow has
0:33:57there's the bad one in the good one but
0:33:58that's it
0:33:59so it turns out there's also another
0:34:00Lazarus who's bad who's from a parallel
0:34:03universe and they keep switching it's
0:34:06terrible it's so terrible
0:34:08it's not actually called Lazarus called
0:34:10something else isn't it no it's called
0:34:12Lazarus and anti Lazarus yeah they're
0:34:14both Lazarus but yeah I think this is
0:34:17one of the ones that i did not quite
0:34:19stay away it's so bad it's so busy
0:34:21people again planted the Nazis not as
0:34:23bad as some of these other episodes
0:34:25catspaw we mentioned so bad the empath
0:34:29we mentioned terrible
0:34:31Scott I'm sorry let that be your last
0:34:33battlefield which is essentially the
0:34:35same episode as the alternative factor i
0:34:37love again i love the fact that star
0:34:39star trek tried to do social commentary
0:34:43but when it's literally one side of me
0:34:47is black on the other side is white and
0:34:48you the other side is black and one side
0:34:51is white and therefore we must kill each
0:34:53other
0:34:54can't we all just get along man it's so
0:34:57painful
0:34:58we are the best cheese on all and so
0:35:01preachy and will and literally it's like
0:35:04I don't know what's going on there
0:35:05yelling they're grappling now they're
0:35:07not grappling anymore it's very much
0:35:09like the alternative factor actually
0:35:11it's it's kind of nonsensical and
0:35:13preachy and I don't like sorry Frank
0:35:17Gorshin yes that's good yeah I always
0:35:21always took it the ridiculous premise
0:35:23and I heavy-handed this
0:35:26as a way of amplifying the ridiculous
0:35:29make you know the ridiculous idea of
0:35:31racism of racism is actually a few yes
0:35:34so ridiculous that we will make this
0:35:35ridiculous episode yes the episode is
0:35:37just as terrible as racism miss ya
0:35:42well put its that say it's very
0:35:44successful because it's like racist and
0:35:48then the last 2i have our again it's the
0:35:52episode that you even forget exist that
0:35:54which survives which is a third late
0:35:56third season episode which has nothing
0:35:58to command it's like a Cyclorama planet
0:36:01and then there's this woman who appears
0:36:03and kills people with the touch and it I
0:36:07I whatever 40 years later I still don't
0:36:10understand why there's a story there
0:36:13it's a it's it's it's terrible and
0:36:15nothing happens and in the end they like
0:36:17shrugging like well some people died i
0:36:19get it will go back to the ship
0:36:22you know some days it's just a mission
0:36:23you know you know you're gonna fill out
0:36:25the reports redshirt thailand it you
0:36:28know we got it I got a scan each planet
0:36:30they're not all gonna be exciting if
0:36:31you're going to talk about an episode
0:36:33that has the like prototypical redshirts
0:36:35dying
0:36:36I mean I guess it's the whole I mean
0:36:38right from from from the mantrap all the
0:36:40way through that which survives you have
0:36:42that but that which survives just
0:36:44there's nothing it's it's the most
0:36:48uninteresting star trek episode of all
0:36:51time it's just nothing
0:36:53it's awful it's just nothing blank
0:36:55emptiness pointless and then and then on
0:36:59the other extreme is the way to Eden
0:37:01which is space hippies including
0:37:04checkups girlfriend uh-huh and they come
0:37:07we reach right and Spock places like
0:37:09autoharp his Vulcan autoharp and there's
0:37:12some singing and there's like a hippie
0:37:15cult leader with big ears and it's a
0:37:18person is yours
0:37:20the sport no no no you given up this
0:37:23side of paradise which is yeah not a bad
0:37:25episode Spock hanging from the tree tree
0:37:28with a big grin yeah yeah i know i have
0:37:30had seen the way to eat another spoiler
0:37:32is pretty blonde girlfriend know the way
0:37:34to even know Steve you have so much to
0:37:37look forward to I've
0:37:38no way that is a that is yes it is space
0:37:41hippies that's that's when you really
0:37:42feel rejected technology but still on a
0:37:46space yeah that that's where you that's
0:37:48where it's like the Amish taking a cab
0:37:50it's like that kinda it's it's time you
0:37:53have to do it that's where you here if
0:37:55the sixties knocking on the door of star
0:37:56trek and said hey it's the 16-man pay
0:37:59attention to us and it's so terrible so
0:38:02terrible so those are the those are the
0:38:04ones you know i love this show dearly
0:38:06but there are some episodes that i find
0:38:08it almost impossible to watch and the
0:38:10way to Eden the empath i think is the
0:38:13worst one I think that's even I think
0:38:15that's the worst one
0:38:17so that's why I was and what I can't
0:38:18believe we didn't mention the enemy
0:38:19within which is a not a bad episode
0:38:21where Kirk gets split in two
0:38:23yeah and i just watched it was also a
0:38:25little dog little dog without before it
0:38:27gets into little dog in a very bad
0:38:30little costume yet for every pore space
0:38:32dog wedding you deserve a little horn
0:38:37strapped to your head you know
0:38:38yeah it's just weird they just use it as
0:38:41a prop people are carrying the dog for
0:38:43no particular reason doesn't have a fine
0:38:45name like is it do they claim it's
0:38:47something else or no it's just like a
0:38:48space dogs gonna warn they don't really
0:38:50badly walking around Italy just found it
0:38:52on the planet yeah so they took a test
0:38:54let's experiment on it by beating it
0:38:55through basic training don't I just if
0:38:58you bring a Spacedock home like don't
0:39:01bring it to the bridge they write and
0:39:02killing the space dogs thing that
0:39:04bothers me about the enemy within is
0:39:05that is i'm not quite sure what it says
0:39:08about gender politics and masculinity
0:39:12I'm not sure I can endorse it for what
0:39:14it says because it seems to suggest that
0:39:16that totally masculine Kirk is a rapist
0:39:21an alcoholic but also like bizarrely
0:39:25flamboyant and over the top and then and
0:39:29then other Kirk is he's wearing eyeliner
0:39:31when he's Superman yeah some reason and
0:39:33another Kirk is is strangely passive and
0:39:35effeminate in a in a different way and
0:39:38and can't get any management so I feel
0:39:40like I feel like when Kirk is split into
0:39:42you know both parts are kind of more of
0:39:46kind of questionable in terms of but the
0:39:49writer of the letter is certainly want
0:39:50to counter
0:39:51each other that they're have their habit
0:39:53you guess the lesson is the Kirk is more
0:39:55than the sum of his parts i guess so
0:39:57it's not blessed be his parts are bad
0:40:00I've got some questions about the gender
0:40:01politics of of the enemy within
0:40:03and one of our listeners in the chatroom
0:40:05asked about the Galileo seven
0:40:07I like that episode I didn't put on my
0:40:08list but you know that's the whole you
0:40:10know Spock has to deal with anti Vulcan
0:40:12racism and also from somebody other than
0:40:14bones for a change yeah so spot as deal
0:40:16with anti Vulcan racism the the burdens
0:40:19of command and also like abominable
0:40:21snowman girl of people who throw big
0:40:23rocks made out of a of plastic and it's
0:40:27a lot to deal with that the shuttlecraft
0:40:29and in the end Spock creates it doesn't
0:40:32illogical thing and and for no good
0:40:36reason and that it saves them which is
0:40:40just like in your face block that logic
0:40:43i like that i like so I like that
0:40:45episode that's that's a really didn't
0:40:47put on my list but that's a really
0:40:49claustrophobic episode right there in
0:40:51that there there's that short a small
0:40:53amount of space outside the the
0:40:55shuttlecraft and they're in the
0:40:56shuttlecraft and meanwhile back on the
0:40:58enterprise basically Kurt is kirk is
0:41:00arguing with a diplomat or a bureaucrat
0:41:03or something like he does
0:41:05we gotta get to our next place that
0:41:07happens like eight episodes where
0:41:09there's a bureaucrat on the bridge was
0:41:10like snap to it Kirk I got a thing in a
0:41:12box that i need to take to a starbase
0:41:14and I wanted there to yesterday so lose
0:41:18the ship and Kirk's like you're not the
0:41:19captain I'll tell you what I'm gonna
0:41:21find my people first and that's right
0:41:24tell you tell him Kirk you tell your dad
0:41:27I don't know why that's a thing but
0:41:29that's how you tell in the the one where
0:41:33Kirk is duplicated which we were just
0:41:34talking about the name escapes me the
0:41:36enemy within the enemy isn't exactly
0:41:38he's like let's just leave well I have
0:41:40problems with the enemies and all
0:41:41because you know Sulu and for people are
0:41:43trapped in a super cool planet yeah and
0:41:45they they check in with him every once
0:41:46in a while and he's like oh it's like
0:41:48negative 80 degrees and he's not wearing
0:41:50he's wearing his regular uniform
0:41:53yeah we should totally all be dead is
0:41:55that is that the first appearance of
0:41:56heating rocks with the phaser beam
0:41:59yes that's yes yes that's which is very
0:42:01cleverly beam down some blankets or do
0:42:03they split into good blankets and
0:42:05evil blanket it's worth a try to be down
0:42:09heaters but they don't work good work
0:42:11this one's got birds in it oh it's a bad
0:42:13black the evil ones don't just don't use
0:42:17the evil blankets people
0:42:19yeah you know the evil blankets come
0:42:21with with eyeliner their eyeliner and
0:42:25smallpox
0:42:25yeah Kirk was not in his native american
0:42:31format that time Romero would all been
0:42:33over pretty early i am Kira you're on
0:42:38wow that's so starts the 30 to 40
0:42:42year-old perspect male perspective on
0:42:44the series if you're interested
0:42:46yes i would like to hear what you're
0:42:48doing your feminine perspective on this
0:42:51leaves a real series there's what
0:42:54happens to be one right here who needs
0:42:55to go to bed very soon so
0:42:57hello hello hello hello
0:43:02tell us what you like about Star Trek
0:43:03well everything that is the correct
0:43:08answer that's good
0:43:09are there are there certain episodes
0:43:11that you remember really liking well a
0:43:15couple of them but one of my favorites
0:43:18was the naked time
0:43:19ok so why do you like that one well
0:43:22mostly because when Sulu was short
0:43:29lesson he was roaming the ship with a
0:43:30sword and he was threatening to fight
0:43:33the crew i really like that to where
0:43:36he's like he's like laughing and and
0:43:38dancing around with his sword ness no
0:43:40shirt on and he's all sweaty he's like
0:43:42yeah very excited about finding people
0:43:46with this sword and all the people run
0:43:47away from him because they are cowards
0:43:49he's the only guy on the spaceship with
0:43:51a sword that's really scary i don't want
0:43:53to mess around with Sulu when he has a
0:43:55sword
0:43:56it's true it's true they could have
0:43:58stunned him or something
0:44:00you have other ones that you like well I
0:44:05like the one where they're in a time
0:44:07like Nazi Germany
0:44:08alrighty to good choice because Nazis
0:44:13are cool right but they're bad and they
0:44:15have to be defeated
0:44:17that's right but it's it's a complicated
0:44:18relationship exactly and Spock and Kirk
0:44:21at they're like walked up and they have
0:44:23to like use the they make like a little
0:44:25laser to get themselves out of the of
0:44:27the prison right at any other any other
0:44:30ones that you really like another one
0:44:32that I really like is the one where
0:44:34there's to kirks good and evil
0:44:37we were just talking about that one and
0:44:38that someone with there's the little dog
0:44:40that turns into the like the good the
0:44:43mean dog in the nice cool dog do you
0:44:46have a you have a favorite character
0:44:48well have a week a stinker who else
0:44:52could a choice right now I like mr.
0:44:53Spock but captain kirk is pretty great
0:44:55yeah yeah so even though this show is
0:44:59like really old it's like more than more
0:45:01than 40 years old I you know it i think
0:45:05it's really cool that you still that you
0:45:07still like it and that you and your dad
0:45:09are watching it
0:45:10yeah it's interesting yeah it's
0:45:13different from stuff that you see today
0:45:15right but yeah there aren't any other
0:45:17shows i think from 50 years ago
0:45:1945 years ago that people are still
0:45:21watching today really like people your
0:45:23age especially alright yeah there
0:45:26anything that you don't like any of us
0:45:29yeah what yeah what yeah what don't you
0:45:31like
0:45:32well some of the episode where they just
0:45:35then in different places in time like
0:45:38some of the ones where they're just one
0:45:40of my least favorites was the end of
0:45:42season two I think where they were
0:45:45trying to make a spin-off oh yes
0:45:48assignment earth with it with the with
0:45:52the girl and the and the guy who's like
0:45:54a spy and that and that black cat
0:45:57yeah yeah the the star trek people
0:46:00aren't in that very much
0:46:01are there there's just like yeah very
0:46:05confusing it's just yeah it's just
0:46:07rubber Berta and Gary seven and the and
0:46:09the rocket there's a lot of we keep
0:46:12seeing the rocket a lot in that way
0:46:14yeah and the cat little black cat okay
0:46:17well that that's great i'm glad that you
0:46:19could share your your your thoughts
0:46:23about star trek with us on the podcast
0:46:24that was really good thanks for thanks
0:46:26for doing it
0:46:28yeah and
0:46:30staying up late Saturday night well
0:46:34thank you for letting me talking thank
0:46:36you for telling us about Star Trek and
0:46:37how you like it that's good because
0:46:39we're all old people so it's good to
0:46:41hear what you want you think of it
0:46:43whoo that was pretty awesome Steve yeah
0:46:47yes yeah that was great i felt a new a
0:46:49different perspective was necessary
0:46:51since I think so i've been only my old
0:46:54team young and team extremely young
0:46:56yes keep your old to be slightly less
0:46:58old and wow and I didn't actually young
0:47:03yeah that's great that's great i love
0:47:05this is watching them but like I said at
0:47:07the beginning you know my kids have been
0:47:09watching them at kind of over my
0:47:11shoulder that they're like some stuff i
0:47:13watch and they just they just blow past
0:47:15with Star Trek they kind of stop and
0:47:16watch it which is actually does amaze me
0:47:19that that anything made that long ago
0:47:21could still be even processed by people
0:47:25born in the 21st century
0:47:27it's true I don't know how it's possible
0:47:29me neither
0:47:30that's great so you have a few episodes
0:47:33left right
0:47:34you and your daughter yeah we've just
0:47:36finished some of the day of the Dove I
0:47:39think Oh which is the the entity aboard
0:47:43ship that's causing the yeah mines gone
0:47:45somewhere to to face the 40 non trapped
0:47:50members of the Enterprise crew commander
0:47:52Kor one of our what three great Klingon
0:47:55commander necessarily it was fairly
0:47:58non-war like actually in this
0:48:00no no he's a he comes back in Deep Space
0:48:04nine
0:48:05you never know about this Klingons I
0:48:06mean they go between your basic
0:48:07wingard's slightly Clinton's or Klingons
0:48:10yeah sometimes they're slightly brownish
0:48:13and sometimes they're more brownish
0:48:15sometimes they have weird eyebrow
0:48:16sometimes they don't it they explain it
0:48:20it's not worth getting a budget the
0:48:22budget that was not the budget was not
0:48:23you know the enterprise they explain why
0:48:25the clans looking way they do and I i
0:48:27prefer the explanation in deep space
0:48:29nine where works is we do not speak of
0:48:31it
0:48:33just let it go
0:48:36they are Klingons we do not speak of it
0:48:39what is it is a little sad that the the
0:48:42primary a competitive races with the
0:48:45humans are smartly people they only
0:48:47really differ in a really eyebrows for
0:48:51the most part yes and ears sometimes you
0:48:54have to have darker skin people aboard
0:48:56the Enterprise
0:48:57so that's not really a difference well
0:48:59that's even in the trouble with tribbles
0:49:00there's the Klingon that passes human
0:49:03right you're right Tony that you get the
0:49:05it's really brilliant right the art
0:49:07Garvin is the easy clean and supplies
0:49:10yeah yes because trouble don't like in
0:49:13trouble
0:49:14yes yeah that's that's the great thing
0:49:18about troubles that's it that's it
0:49:21they couldn't get the feeling that the
0:49:24Klingons or the Clintons triples love
0:49:26everybody except for Klingon but yeah
0:49:29because they don't like eyebrows and
0:49:35purposes
0:49:36yeah that is the trouble with that is
0:49:39they don't like long as they have hate
0:49:41in their hearts for Klingons and that is
0:49:43the trouble
0:49:44shame on them horrible racist there's an
0:49:47episode with a Klingon who's got a lumpy
0:49:51head on one side of his body and then
0:49:53not and then another one where it's
0:49:55reversed and it's all about racism man
0:49:58yeah I get it
0:49:59yeah they really are the most hateful of
0:50:01spaces bath implements center of brushes
0:50:06yeah there are there a one of those
0:50:08called the the global possible some kind
0:50:12of pop thing there Lou fast group now
0:50:14that's not a loofah sponge type deal
0:50:17about the trip boys not a space loofah
0:50:20Wow
0:50:21now that's some sort of all you're wrong
0:50:22and ok i attack called I apologize to
0:50:27the race of triples
0:50:29I'm sorry troubles now who's the racist
0:50:33ones i know i know it yes who was on the
0:50:35other ones move loofahs tribbles they
0:50:39all look alike to me maybe you should
0:50:40watch let that be your last battle Fagin
0:50:43be your last battlefield who could tell
0:50:46the difference between up a powderpuff
0:50:47in a loofah I look a like to this guy I
0:50:51know it's all the same
0:50:54there's in is it there was an episode
0:50:57that i was just watching today that said
0:50:59it's space seed it's like well the the
0:51:03people on the ship or from all the parts
0:51:05of the world you know North America
0:51:08Latin oriental I'm thinking oh no don't
0:51:14try no but they don't know in the 23rd
0:51:17century they don't know about your space
0:51:18racism they are passed it man don't know
0:51:22about taboo words because they're their
0:51:24color to color blind society man unless
0:51:26you get stranded on a planet with Spock
0:51:28and then it's all out the window
0:51:30oh yeah the Balkans know they well they
0:51:33suck green-blooded you to be honest the
0:51:36blue eyeshadow i think is what really
0:51:37turns people off
0:51:38that's true we're trying to fool his
0:51:40it's box-yellow pallor appears to change
0:51:44a lot from episode to episode they
0:51:46didn't know what they were doing with I
0:51:47yeah it was very early episodes he is
0:51:50extremely yellowy except for his blue
0:51:52eye shadow of course and then sort of
0:51:54fluctuate and is and in in the cage
0:51:57doesn't he have like kind of reddish or
0:51:59even better area yeah I read about I am
0:52:02unfortunately red-letter day boys
0:52:04I think to predict what's bad girl
0:52:07oh yeah by accident I'm not spotted it
0:52:10was you know I are old yeah and that he
0:52:12later does i am science podcast yeah i
0:52:15read i don't know about him when I ever
0:52:17these are not of my own fees
0:52:19yeah out of my all of our Leonard in his
0:52:21own right yes I mean yeah well or maybe
0:52:23the ghost written i don't know but i
0:52:25guess the earlier versions of Spock were
0:52:26much more like demonic basically and he
0:52:30had he had red face it a reddish tint
0:52:33right and i think they wanted him
0:52:34have a tail but probably that wasn't
0:52:36explained all the yelling then do right
0:52:38people were not big on that you so yeah
0:52:41but then like you his best line in the
0:52:43original pilot is they they beam away
0:52:45they all get on the transporter beam but
0:52:49only number one who is major Barrett and
0:52:53the the yeoman the two women they beam
0:52:56off because they're trying to find a
0:52:58mate for for Captain Pike and all the
0:53:00man are still there with their rifles
0:53:02and as soon as that that moment happens
0:53:05Spock steps forward and shouts the women
0:53:08that's his big moment but women it's
0:53:15funny I guess a commentary on the times
0:53:17the fact that they they have this one
0:53:19alien character on the bridge aboard
0:53:21ship kind of like the key did the other
0:53:24you know well that night in the woman
0:53:26they couldn't make him completely Vulcan
0:53:29had be half-human athol for people to be
0:53:31able to still relate to him
0:53:32well it's so in the original pilot it
0:53:34was unclear whether it was half or not
0:53:36he was just a guy with the point of
0:53:37years but they had the the female first
0:53:39officer right and they are great irony
0:53:41is that that a space alien at on your
0:53:45bridge crew sets to find a woman
0:53:48second-in-command yeah we imagined they
0:53:53got rid of her better helmets to worry
0:53:56about they turned her into a blonde
0:53:58nurse instead
0:54:00ok you come a long way baby and the
0:54:04voice of the computer and voice the
0:54:05computer there are you
0:54:06that's true I horribly screechy voice of
0:54:09a computer
0:54:10yes still computer yeah computers
0:54:14Kirkwood's kill exactly
0:54:16yeah we could do a whole separate
0:54:17episode on technology in Star Trek the
0:54:19original series
0:54:20oh it's fascinating they got a lot right
0:54:22i mean a communicator you know it's not
0:54:25it doesn't go into space but it's a
0:54:26little flip out like foam me thing kind
0:54:30of but they have all the little bubble
0:54:32switches that get flipped which I'll
0:54:34I'll makes me laugh it's like to do this
0:54:36complicated thing any like flip switches
0:54:38group
0:54:39alright captain got it one-on-one but of
0:54:44the thing that actually amuses me the
0:54:46most of all the technology and star trek
0:54:48is the it is the the fact that they
0:54:52couldn't conceive of a network of shared
0:54:56storage of a computer storage so they've
0:54:58got these powerful computers that
0:54:59reactor voice command and that there are
0:55:02databases and all of that is we take for
0:55:05granted now but i think was really smart
0:55:06on their part and yet they have this
0:55:08real connection to like tapes and record
0:55:13tapes and you here's a little those look
0:55:15at their tiny right there
0:55:16they're like little memory cards locks
0:55:18and plastic which is cool because again
0:55:20that's really forward thinking that
0:55:21there's think these record tapes but but
0:55:23they're not there's still sneakernet
0:55:25right and and they couldn't get over
0:55:28that to be like if only we could network
0:55:30guys together somehow
0:55:31yeah like--on he says like it will
0:55:34recoil tie you into RR record tapes like
0:55:38oh you're so close to just use some
0:55:39clothes which is interesting because
0:55:41there are apparently like seven or eight
0:55:43places aboard the ship where you can
0:55:44take control of the controls and lock
0:55:47out the rest of the controls engineer is
0:55:49the best place bearing is the best
0:55:51player there's nobody down there except
0:55:52Scotty and the singles leading squad so
0:55:54yeah I didn't wander off a log
0:55:57it's the rest of engineering they stare
0:55:59at things and then when the ship lurches
0:56:01they all fall one and then they lead to
0:56:05the other self it that's their sole
0:56:07purpose the computer really runs the
0:56:09ship those guys are therefore honestly
0:56:11the bar to entry for the engineering
0:56:12degrees really gone downhill the only
0:56:143rd century it's true all these
0:56:16computers yeah yeah it's all automated
0:56:18those guys are just their market time
0:56:20yeah that's friend waiting to be shot
0:56:22because there were red shirts scotch
0:56:25whisky is it his purpose is to claim
0:56:27that things can't be done while doing
0:56:28them
0:56:29yeah that's right this is impossible
0:56:32yeah then we're done with that beautiful
0:56:33go right i mean that with that would
0:56:35which was played up in in the episode of
0:56:38next generation where he saw and what
0:56:40else Geordie you didn't tell him how
0:56:42long would really take two chill people
0:56:44that don't do that you can you never be
0:56:47you'll never get a reputation it as a
0:56:49miracle that you gotta say no it'll take
0:56:52months to do that I fixed it
0:56:55honestly there's one one person aboard
0:56:56ship that should be concerned about
0:56:57being replaced by a computer it's that
0:56:59dude
0:57:01yeah fair enough major Barrett
0:57:03Roddenberry could very easily say that
0:57:05the engines can't take much more of this
0:57:08captain
0:57:09well Steve I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
0:57:12say do I have to flip a switch and say
0:57:15hailing frequencies open
0:57:16Oh hailing frequencies open hailing
0:57:21frequencies important thank God you were
0:57:22here her it was great that they cast
0:57:24michelle nichols and she was by all
0:57:26accounts it an inspirational figure but
0:57:28especially early on in the show they
0:57:30didn't really have anything for her to
0:57:32do later she doesn't have a lot of
0:57:34biting the back of her hand when
0:57:36something is terrifying
0:57:37yeah but she just did a lot of she was
0:57:39like running the phones she was the
0:57:40receptionist on the enterprise which is
0:57:42not a big step forward
0:57:45does she in fact do the keening whale
0:57:47that accompanies the beginning credits
0:57:48or is that someone oh that's someone
0:57:51else's because I heard her i think it
0:57:53was the the Space Shuttle farewell
0:57:55ceremony and she was standing there at
0:57:58the podium has a speaker at that and she
0:58:01began by doing that there is a great
0:58:04photo of michelle nichols and Barack
0:58:08Obama both doing the Vulcan salute in
0:58:11the Oval Office wow that's worth it
0:58:13worth of you that's just one of those
0:58:15things like I cannot believe I am
0:58:17looking at this picture means of the
0:58:19President of the United States and
0:58:21Lieutenant over a both giving me the
0:58:23live long and prosper salute
0:58:25I don't know yes the Romulan candidate
0:58:29yes yeah well really as if anybody
0:58:33hasn't seen the John Hodgman bit where
0:58:36he is at the the Washington press corps
0:58:39dinner a couple years ago and does a
0:58:42whole bit about how the Nerds inherit
0:58:44the earth and and essentially what he's
0:58:46saying is is a Obama you you're a
0:58:49gigantic nerd right you understand all
0:58:52these references i'm giving you at one
0:58:53point he mentions the Vulcan hand salute
0:58:55and Obama unprompted other than that
0:58:58just does it and judgment is beside
0:59:01himself like he doesn't know what to say
0:59:04he's like I can't believe that just
0:59:05happened oh it's it's worth looking on
0:59:09YouTube it's a it's a it's a really
0:59:11funny bit
0:59:12alright I think we're I think we've
0:59:14beaten this
0:59:14this is like an eight-part episode now
0:59:16maybe but like Star Trek i think is
0:59:18what's become the star trek sucks
0:59:20basically it's not that good star wars
0:59:22is totally better and i think we already
0:59:23know is the great importance of star
0:59:26trek with without which it's doubtful we
0:59:28would ever gotten the ballot of Bilbo
0:59:30Baggins
0:59:31oh that isn't certainly for later Gary
0:59:36to every things that you made it to like
0:59:37removed from your memory and then other
0:59:39people just hit you in the face with a
0:59:41little i prefer Leonard boys recording
0:59:43of I had a hammer pero I had a hammer
0:59:47actually a highly illogically quite a
0:59:49good child highly illogical that way he
0:59:51combs his hair so so before we go one
0:59:55last thing I wanted to say because we
0:59:56talk about Star Wars and Star Trek and
0:59:58and the end the battle between
0:59:58and the end the battle between
1:00:00people who love Star Wars and people
1:00:01love star trek and I I like Star Wars a
1:00:03lot I a lot and it just wasn't the
1:00:07formative thing that Star Trek was for
1:00:09me but the one thing I'll say about
1:00:11where Star Trek cast the advantage is
1:00:13that Star Trek as a television series
1:00:15allowed you to spend a whole lot more
1:00:17time with the characters the original
1:00:20series as well as all the all the
1:00:22spin-offs that have happened and the one
1:00:24thing about Star Trek coming back as a
1:00:26movie franchise which I think JJ Abrams
1:00:28dinner did a great job of revitalizing
1:00:30it i love seeing those characters that
1:00:32the original series characters again and
1:00:36young because all the movies were about
1:00:38them being old so having be young and
1:00:41setting out in the first adventures i
1:00:42think is great but the fact is with
1:00:44these movies you know you see two hours
1:00:47and then four years later you get two
1:00:48more hours and there's something to be
1:00:50said for the time that Star Trek was
1:00:53able to take on TV to spend with these
1:00:57characters and that's something Star
1:00:58Wars you know Star Wars as great as it
1:01:00is
1:01:00that's three movies with with Leia and
1:01:03Luke and Han Solo and that's all we got
1:01:05less than six hours in total in the TV
1:01:07special rights less than six hours and
1:01:09then of course our podcast which were
1:01:10about 20 hours and this one which is
1:01:14nearing that yeah so so I i think that
1:01:17is Star Trek's great advantage which its
1:01:19losing as a movie franchise which is why
1:01:21I hope eventually they will go back to
1:01:23TV with some form of it because you know
1:01:25there's somethings TV does better than
1:01:26movies and I think the reason that so
1:01:28many of us have such a a soft spot in
1:01:31our heart so you know warm feelings
1:01:32toward star trek is because there are
1:01:35are so there's so much of it and we get
1:01:38to see these characters over time and
1:01:40learn lots of little things about them
1:01:42whereas with movies whether it's Star
1:01:45Wars or something else your left parsing
1:01:47little tiny beats you know one in the
1:01:49Star Trek movies these characters get a
1:01:51beat or two a plot point or two and
1:01:53that's it
1:01:54whereas in start in the series you could
1:01:57do you know sometimes good and sometimes
1:01:59bad but you could have whole episodes
1:02:02where there's a subplot about you know
1:02:04Chekhov or Sulu as simple as Sulu just
1:02:07running around with a sword right and
1:02:09Star Wars you have to guess when the
1:02:10characters are probably getting laid
1:02:12in Star Trek you know you know you see
1:02:14it started boots are off the boot off
1:02:17the boots are back and it just happened
1:02:19exactly if they cut back to Han Solo in
1:02:22the Millennium Falcon's go-to Cloud City
1:02:23and he's putting his boots back on then
1:02:26we would know the command blouse was off
1:02:29yep that's 10 to 25 seconds
1:02:33yeah but anyway that that's that's the
1:02:35one thing that I i say is that I'd say
1:02:36the big difference between Star Trek and
1:02:38Star Wars and Star Trek has always had
1:02:39more time because they've had episodes
1:02:42you know the street star trek original
1:02:44had three years next generation had
1:02:46seven years to tell stories about these
1:02:49characters and they feel you know it is
1:02:51a little less special but it's also just
1:02:53a lot more time with a lot more depth
1:02:56and you can get the corners of the
1:02:57characters in a way that you know Star
1:02:59Wars just can't do as a movie franchise
1:03:01so although that may change very soon as
1:03:03many way things are going now it seems
1:03:05like we're gonna get your story soon
1:03:08apparently shirts and inverted world
1:03:10yeah this town it could be AG 88 and me
1:03:14but the TV series that's right over to
1:03:17the Fox yeah I saw that show is called
1:03:20night rider yeah and the thing I like
1:03:24about star trek over star wars and I do
1:03:27like Star Wars I don't want people to
1:03:28think I don't like Star Wars because I
1:03:30do I love star trek I like Star Wars is
1:03:33that Star Trek is very optimistic and
1:03:36it's about the future of humanity and
1:03:38tries to deal with these things these
1:03:40these big topics that are important you
1:03:42know it's very is rooted in the present
1:03:44but it's set in the future right so
1:03:45that's the cool thing about star trek to
1:03:48me
1:03:48star wars they started off right at the
1:03:51back and say this is a galaxy far far
1:03:53away and long time ago
1:03:55these are not humans this is a
1:03:57completely different place they look
1:03:59just like us but they're not us
1:04:00this has no real bearing on the world
1:04:03now it's a kind of a fable or you know
1:04:06and so that's a different kind of
1:04:08storytelling but i think it's less it is
1:04:10less impactful to me because of that
1:04:12kind of separation from the world
1:04:16I just like the mini skirts
1:04:19the community cheese factor in the fact
1:04:21that my daughter and I have something to
1:04:22bond over
1:04:23yeah that's all good it's all good too i
1:04:27love i love that that a style even
1:04:30though it's not entirely sixties you get
1:04:31that you get the miniskirts and all that
1:04:33and it's like yeah that's kind of cool
1:04:35it's truly alien now not complaining and
1:04:38i will say the the blu rays are just got
1:04:42some of the original series and it they
1:04:43look fantastic era because they shot it
1:04:45on film so sure there's much more
1:04:47resolution than we ever saw on those old
1:04:49reruns and then they also redid you can
1:04:52watch it with or without the new effects
1:04:53but I can do which is great i think the
1:04:55new effects are nice and they did after
1:04:56well done a surround audio mix that's
1:04:59really nice it's really good they did a
1:05:01fantastic is CBS and paramount took I
1:05:04guess it's just us took a lot of time to
1:05:06get it right and i think they did get it
1:05:08right and of course it's great that
1:05:10they've included the original so that
1:05:11for you know the purest out there yeah
1:05:13can watch the old models if they liked
1:05:15to have seen only the cgi based ones
1:05:17because that's what streaming on netflix
1:05:19but this young I might go out and invest
1:05:22in the blu-rays just so i can play spot
1:05:24the fishing line huh that's half the
1:05:27appeal to me of the that's an easy game
1:05:29it is very easy looking for again it's
1:05:32one of those it's one of those drinking
1:05:33game items fishing line shirtless Spock
1:05:35i'm shirtless kirk spock sad he's dead
1:05:39yes I'm a doctor not a ya know about you
1:05:43and it's on the blue races where you
1:05:44with a press of a button you can switch
1:05:46from the original special effects to the
1:05:49fancy special rights which is cool
1:05:51yeah they did a great job finally a good
1:05:53use of blu-ray it's true
1:05:56at the end of Star Trek it always amuses
1:05:58me to see that it is a Desilu production
1:06:01I don't know why it just yeah that's the
1:06:03companies offer ever i love lucy just
1:06:06like early twilight zone
1:06:07yeah there's something about how they
1:06:09the yeah the the production company got
1:06:11bought by Desilu and then it was sucked
1:06:14up by paramount but but yes and they
1:06:17shot at the desert loose to do so yes
1:06:19Desi Arnaz I'm sure had a had a had some
1:06:22money out of Star Trek their bizarre and
1:06:26now belongs to CBS even though it aired
1:06:27on NBC because it went through Viacom
1:06:30and I guess paramount does the movies
1:06:32and CBS owns the TV and it's this weird
1:06:35kind of alliance between the two of them
1:06:36that they believed as he bought his long
1:06:38long trailer is specifically for
1:06:40residuals from Star Trek there you go
1:06:42so so yeah the blu rays are good that's
1:06:45a I i did a good job they did you know
1:06:49they had the film so the HD masters were
1:06:51there and and you can make it look
1:06:53really amazing like show that i watched
1:06:57whatever every episode 50 times and you
1:06:59see things that you didn't see before
1:07:00because it's that much clearer and then
1:07:03yeah they did the right thing with
1:07:04special effects which is they they
1:07:06really said what were they trying to do
1:07:08right what would they have done if they
1:07:10could have done it and a lot of times
1:07:12it's just some subtle camera movements
1:07:14it's the lighting where you've got
1:07:16objects lighting other objects where
1:07:17they weren't together in the other ones
1:07:20so they didn't and then some things that
1:07:22didn't make any sense that you like
1:07:23couldn't get a sense of where the the
1:07:25the ship was on the screen or whatever
1:07:27just little subtle things but you know
1:07:30did a really good job where it's much
1:07:31more kind of watching bullying and it's
1:07:33clear what's happening and then they fix
1:07:35some weird stuff like Sulu had a like in
1:07:38court maneuver he's got a countdown that
1:07:40didn't make any sense it was like the
1:07:41members were wrong and they just
1:07:42replaced it and now it makes sense and
1:07:45it it works again so they did a great
1:07:47job and even read the title select the
1:07:51topography in the the titles is super
1:07:53clear HD yeah that's right yeah
1:07:56kudos CBS the job as far as I'm
1:07:58concerned the the new ones can go pound
1:08:01sand Harry much shot first
1:08:04another and on that note I'm gonna close
1:08:09up this episode of the incomparable this
1:08:11has been great i had a great time
1:08:13talking about one of my favorite shows
1:08:15of all time I realized today that you
1:08:18know I always pussyfoot around the water
1:08:20my top five shows of all time I know
1:08:22what my top five shows are all time and
1:08:24I know for certain star trek Babylon 5
1:08:27that Star Trek the original series is
1:08:29one of those five it just is how can I
1:08:31deny it
1:08:32it's a formal part of my childhood and I
1:08:35still love it today so I'd like to thank
1:08:37my guests for joining me talking about
1:08:38one of my very favorite things
1:08:40Steve let's thank you for being here and
1:08:42thank you for bringing your
1:08:43water along to that was really great i'm
1:08:45a panel is not a Walmart greeter dammit
1:08:48Spock you're welcome Jason and you're
1:08:51welcome from my daughter who is
1:08:52hopefully in bed at this point i hope so
1:08:54i feel like i should go to bed you know
1:08:56it had we not have this discussion
1:08:57tonight we probably would have watched a
1:08:59very bad episode of structure
1:09:01oh yes oh the way to Eden it's coming
1:09:04Tony sindelar thank you very much for
1:09:06joining us tonight was great to have you
1:09:08here
1:09:08there's always time for fizzbin except
1:09:10on tuesdays at night
1:09:12well then you have a half so that's what
1:09:15we call it shrunk it's very bad and
1:09:18Scott McNulty this is the episode that
1:09:20we were made for I i agree and live long
1:09:23and prosper chase thank you i think we
1:09:25we work this out that i'm kirk your spot
1:09:29steve is McCoy and Tony you can be
1:09:34Scotty if you like it's like it's gonna
1:09:36be a red shirt isn't it
1:09:38nurse Chapel you can be Sulu you know
1:09:41I'm okay
1:09:42I'll spin Richard ok i'll die but i'll
1:09:45serve the enterprise and some Johnson to
1:09:48the transporter room
1:09:49boy it's my big chance thanks to
1:09:52everybody for listening to us talk about
1:09:54a show that's almost 50 years old for a
1:09:58very long time
1:09:59it keeps getting older and it keeps at
1:10:01the longer we go the older it gets until
1:10:04next time on the incomparable thanks
1:10:06everybody out there we'll see you next
1:10:08time
1:10:12and Scott McNulty my partner in Star
1:10:20Trek and all things blow it in life
1:10:24oh this is the episode that you that
1:10:28that we were made for I I agree
1:10:31live long and prosper chase thank you we
1:10:34will we will live long and prosper
1:10:35together apparently since we are life
1:10:37partners in the Star Trek life partner
1:10:41aight no it's the 23rd century its
1:10:43there's nothing wrong with that
1:10:45which one of us where's the mascara
1:10:46secretly Jason likes goatee McNulty a
1:10:49lot more than clean-shaven the evil
1:10:52Scott is the work with the with the
1:10:53clean-shaven face is the Frog true the
1:10:56bearded Scott is the good Scott really i
1:10:59have you heard kind of wacky parallel
1:11:01universes this