The Incomparable

118: The Incomparable Holiday Vault 2


00:00:00   Jason's gonna be liberal with the [TS]

00:00:04   editing I just I either I'm it's gonna [TS]

00:00:06   be like to die hard episode I'm just [TS]

00:00:08   gonna put a disclaimer on the front that [TS]

00:00:09   says don't listen to this it's episode [TS]

00:00:11   in this episode is five minutes alone [TS]

00:00:13   we're horrible horrible people happy [TS]

00:00:15   happy holidays everybody [TS]

00:00:17   the incomparable over 180 December 2012 [TS]

00:00:30   ho ho [TS]

00:00:32   welcome back everybody it's the holidays [TS]

00:00:34   and this is the uncomfortable podcast [TS]

00:00:36   I'm your host Jason snow and we are [TS]

00:00:39   going to revive I guess it only comes to [TS]

00:00:42   tradition once you do it more than once [TS]

00:00:44   so this is it we are going to talk about [TS]

00:00:46   our favorite holiday movies again last [TS]

00:00:50   year we did an episode called the [TS]

00:00:51   holiday movie vault where we each placed [TS]

00:00:54   an item a TV show or movie in the [TS]

00:00:57   holiday vault 22 treasure for always for [TS]

00:01:01   all time and we're going to do it again [TS]

00:01:03   we're going to add some more things the [TS]

00:01:05   vault is large enough to fit more movies [TS]

00:01:07   and TV shows than we have in it now [TS]

00:01:09   there's plenty of room in the vault so [TS]

00:01:11   we're going to throw some more stuff in [TS]

00:01:12   the vault [TS]

00:01:13   joining me to add items to the vault are [TS]

00:01:16   Glenn fleischmann hi Glenn [TS]

00:01:18   hello there and ho ho from this Jewish [TS]

00:01:21   boy [TS]

00:01:22   hoho hello hello oh and also joining us [TS]

00:01:26   and Enoch oh hello Andy [TS]

00:01:29   Merry Christmas Jason have you been a [TS]

00:01:31   good host this year a fair-to-middling [TS]

00:01:35   oh ok well you i'll give you the the [TS]

00:01:39   i'll give you the logitech USB [TS]

00:01:41   microphone instead of the height 240 see [TS]

00:01:43   that I give it the good posts [TS]

00:01:45   wow this podcast brought to you by [TS]

00:01:47   logitech it's like a lump of coal in [TS]

00:01:49   your stocking [TS]

00:01:49   also here is the fine and why is Steve [TS]

00:01:53   let's hi Steve [TS]

00:01:54   Wow bay as aplin already [TS]

00:02:00   and if you identify the movie that comes [TS]

00:02:02   from you win a free non-existence the [TS]

00:02:04   comparable teacher yeah that's right i [TS]

00:02:05   always tell me if you will win the [TS]

00:02:07   Seventh Seal you guessed it Berkman knew [TS]

00:02:11   had knew his way around some dialogue [TS]

00:02:12   and tell you i was i was gonna say [TS]

00:02:14   eraserhead I'm so glad it's a class [TS]

00:02:16   whatever feeling foolish right now [TS]

00:02:18   also joining me Dan Morgan I dan hi [TS]

00:02:21   Jason I anything clever to smoke [TS]

00:02:23   okay fair enough and very happy to have [TS]

00:02:27   Lisa Schwyzer with us to hi Lisa [TS]

00:02:29   happy winter solstice everyone here Mary [TS]

00:02:32   pagan festival of darkness all good [TS]

00:02:36   you're good you'll agree that they're [TS]

00:02:39   all you nod critical thinkers how I pity [TS]

00:02:42   and hate you [TS]

00:02:45   critically of cards throwing a richard [TS]

00:02:48   dawkins special in the holiday movie [TS]

00:02:49   Pulp it's terrible little present [TS]

00:02:51   everything that's in there it's a core [TS]

00:02:53   Sagan Christmas billions and billions of [TS]

00:02:57   Christmas specials [TS]

00:02:59   well that's true and that's just [TS]

00:03:00   rankin/bass oh so I i want to recap [TS]

00:03:04   before we do our inductees for the year [TS]

00:03:06   2012 into our holiday movie vault which [TS]

00:03:08   ice should say i called the holiday [TS]

00:03:10   movie vault and see let's pointed out [TS]

00:03:12   that uh I said movies or TV and so when [TS]

00:03:15   we induct the TV show last year that [TS]

00:03:17   that was one of these choices that was [TS]

00:03:19   not cheating [TS]

00:03:20   it was perfectly valid and it's my fault [TS]

00:03:22   for calling it the whole holiday movie [TS]

00:03:24   volt includes television that's just how [TS]

00:03:27   it is it's called the holiday movie [TS]

00:03:28   vault includes television that's how we [TS]

00:03:30   roll [TS]

00:03:31   I'm going to recap the movies that are [TS]

00:03:32   already in the vault first off we have [TS]

00:03:34   an honorary inductee because at [TS]

00:03:37   Christmas in 2010 we did a whole episode [TS]

00:03:40   about die hard and what a great holiday [TS]

00:03:43   movie diehard was so I'm gonna put that [TS]

00:03:46   I'm gonna mark that down as being dan [TS]

00:03:48   moore and selection from year zero of [TS]

00:03:51   the holiday movie fault and input [TS]

00:03:53   diehard in the vault last year's choices [TS]

00:03:56   Glenn inducted elf the will ferrell [TS]

00:04:00   comedy about a else that looks like will [TS]

00:04:03   ferrell he's very tall and james caan is [TS]

00:04:06   very angry [TS]

00:04:06   it's the wrath of khan which we I think [TS]

00:04:09   did a whole episode about uh damn freaks [TS]

00:04:12   abducted when harry met sally which is [TS]

00:04:13   originally sent around christmas and new [TS]

00:04:15   years and I thought that was a great [TS]

00:04:16   choice and Aiko inducted groundhog day [TS]

00:04:19   because Groundhog Day is also a holiday [TS]

00:04:21   and also a great movie serenity Caldwell [TS]

00:04:26   had it's a wonderful life Steve let's [TS]

00:04:28   when the TV route with Charlie Brown [TS]

00:04:30   Christmas excellent choice and I brought [TS]

00:04:33   in Miracle on thirty-fourth street so [TS]

00:04:36   you can you can learn all about the [TS]

00:04:39   holiday movie evolved last year that's [TS]

00:04:41   incomparable number 71 71 look it up [TS]

00:04:44   people and and that brings us to today [TS]

00:04:47   where we have new selections for the [TS]

00:04:50   holiday movie evolved and I'm wondering [TS]

00:04:51   who would like to go first and tell us [TS]

00:04:55   what thing that they love that they want [TS]

00:04:57   to permanently Preserve in are very [TS]

00:04:59   high-quality fault that we ordered on [TS]

00:05:01   the Internet is this like do this by the [TS]

00:05:02   same people who made the disney vault or [TS]

00:05:05   we could not afford that [TS]

00:05:07   unfortunately the pole vault actually so [TS]

00:05:09   it's really not really awkward it's the [TS]

00:05:11   people maybe the Keitel gold records [TS]

00:05:14   solid gold vaults interesting I sure [TS]

00:05:17   i'll go first I was shocked shocked i [TS]

00:05:20   tell you to find that nobody last year [TS]

00:05:22   picked the seminal 1983 classic a [TS]

00:05:26   christmas story which you've seen [TS]

00:05:29   because he runs for 24 hours during xmas [TS]

00:05:32   on TBS yes it does mr. ossible for you [TS]

00:05:35   not to have seen it [TS]

00:05:36   oh I love watching it like two in the [TS]

00:05:38   morning it's great it's really a ball [TS]

00:05:40   with the best part about it is that you [TS]

00:05:41   can start watching at some point and [TS]

00:05:42   then yes and you can go to bed then you [TS]

00:05:44   can get a meeting gets the resin dip in [TS]

00:05:45   and out and you know you come up as we [TS]

00:05:48   know the most ridiculous thing we bought [TS]

00:05:50   a DVD of it when you're have no idea [TS]

00:05:52   what we can see that is correct that is [TS]

00:05:53   just ridiculous ruins the experience [TS]

00:05:55   that's not what was that about [TS]

00:05:57   so it perfectly supports that sort of [TS]

00:05:59   dipping in and out right because it's [TS]

00:06:00   kind of well it is an overarching has an [TS]

00:06:03   overarching plot there are like sort of [TS]

00:06:05   these little scenes that serve as [TS]

00:06:06   vignettes so it really does a good job [TS]

00:06:09   of letting you sort of drop in and pick [TS]

00:06:11   up just you know a thread and then you [TS]

00:06:13   could just let it go and then come back [TS]

00:06:15   later and watch another thread and it's [TS]

00:06:18   it's it's just a lovely movie iight shot [TS]

00:06:21   is what you're saying [TS]

00:06:22   exactly i remember it i remember it's [TS]

00:06:24   scaring me a little bit when I was a kid [TS]

00:06:26   because the Santa seen the Santa scene [TS]

00:06:28   where he kicks and down the slide was [TS]

00:06:30   like oh very nice and also the shooting [TS]

00:06:36   your eye out was very traumatic for me [TS]

00:06:37   oh yeah sure I with that thing i had a [TS]

00:06:39   BB gun and I had that same fear was like [TS]

00:06:41   we want to get him [TS]

00:06:42   it's dangerous and I got my co-host [TS]

00:06:44   interest i hope i don't misuse it and [TS]

00:06:45   accidentally somehow shoot and I out of [TS]

00:06:48   mine or someone else's I here's the deal [TS]

00:06:51   ken jennings considers jeopardy winner [TS]

00:06:53   and gentlemen commence collecting his [TS]

00:06:55   new book out about childhood myths [TS]

00:06:57   things our parents told us that were [TS]

00:06:58   wrong and just came out a couple days [TS]

00:06:59   ago and one of them is about your I [TS]

00:07:01   would be begun it is in fact true most [TS]

00:07:03   mrs. book he disapproves but in fact [TS]

00:07:05   there are enormous number of merchants [TS]

00:07:08   your room visits of people having shot [TS]

00:07:10   there I with their guns and BB gun while [TS]

00:07:12   your eyes are pretty sensitive so it's [TS]

00:07:14   not really a surprise we talk about the [TS]

00:07:15   air those airs those intense airsoft [TS]

00:07:17   rifles are we talking about like a [TS]

00:07:19   little like one of the ones that you can [TS]

00:07:20   pump up and maybe guns i think I'm packs [TS]

00:07:23   of Indian rifles are these guns can [TS]

00:07:24   produce like a crazy amount of psi so it [TS]

00:07:27   is an actual worry and that was this [TS]

00:07:29   week's installment of blending with [TS]

00:07:31   Jennings [TS]

00:07:32   they can work your plan works you and [TS]

00:07:34   Jeffery 100 I've erased all memory of [TS]

00:07:37   that experience [TS]

00:07:38   me too oh yeah yeah yeahs a couple [TS]

00:07:41   things I really love about this movie [TS]

00:07:42   one I really love the the little brother [TS]

00:07:45   Randy whose I think my favorite [TS]

00:07:46   character in the meantime people fight [TS]

00:07:48   because the Santa got this movie with me [TS]

00:07:50   when he's under the sink [TS]

00:07:52   no that was one of the better one for me [TS]

00:07:54   as always okay why are your arms down [TS]

00:07:59   when you get to school but also daddy's [TS]

00:08:02   gonna kill Ralphie which is that is that [TS]

00:08:06   is a around my family my extended family [TS]

00:08:08   that that quote comes up fairly often or [TS]

00:08:10   around around Christmastime can we get [TS]

00:08:12   some praise for darren mcgavin they're [TS]

00:08:14   always and you are a man what a great i [TS]

00:08:17   mean he's a great actor and [TS]

00:08:18   underappreciated but this it's so [TS]

00:08:20   actually great and he passed away a few [TS]

00:08:22   years ago [TS]

00:08:23   it's so great that as delivery that he [TS]

00:08:27   isn't the kind of thing guy deserved to [TS]

00:08:29   be in a in a classic I don't in a [TS]

00:08:31   timeless classic and this is it the [TS]

00:08:32   boxes from juillet must be Italian [TS]

00:08:36   the duck is smiling at us but this is [TS]

00:08:41   dog its tether little mexican smooth up [TS]

00:08:44   the mechana seen that always comes back [TS]

00:08:46   to me is of course the changing the tire [TS]

00:08:49   on our shop [TS]

00:08:50   oh I the only he doesn't say yeah my [TS]

00:08:55   cabin is great and easy particularly [TS]

00:08:57   great in this because the I think for me [TS]

00:08:59   the best thing about this film is that [TS]

00:09:01   is the relationship between Ralphie and [TS]

00:09:03   dad made a most at least american males [TS]

00:09:07   I it and certainly myself you know dad [TS]

00:09:10   is basically this sort of vague presents [TS]

00:09:12   that that appears after work in the [TS]

00:09:15   evenings and seems to exist solely to [TS]

00:09:17   scallops you and tell you you're doing [TS]

00:09:18   things wrong and it's me and it's just [TS]

00:09:21   it's absolutely beautiful where you know [TS]

00:09:24   he's he's asking for the gun from every [TS]

00:09:26   single entity he can he can consider and [TS]

00:09:30   you never even thinks of the dad and in [TS]

00:09:32   the end it's a daddy was aware enough of [TS]

00:09:34   his son's needs and wants to be the one [TS]

00:09:36   that sneaks the gun into the house I [TS]

00:09:38   think that's just great it's so it's a [TS]

00:09:40   it's it just encapsulated the whole [TS]

00:09:43   father-son relationship thing to a tee [TS]

00:09:46   and it does a good job making [TS]

00:09:47   three-dimensional to write like you know [TS]

00:09:49   like you're saying there it's just he's [TS]

00:09:50   he's a natural character there and I [TS]

00:09:52   don't know I mean I assume like many of [TS]

00:09:54   you probably that there is an element of [TS]

00:09:56   that reminds me of my own relationship [TS]

00:09:58   with my father so i came to this movie [TS]

00:10:00   really late I this movie was already a [TS]

00:10:01   classic and I hadn't seen it until like [TS]

00:10:03   five years ago or something and I you [TS]

00:10:05   had that moment where you're thinking [TS]

00:10:06   well it's really on and it is it's great [TS]

00:10:08   it feels like it's a document that fell [TS]

00:10:10   out of a you know a time warp from like [TS]

00:10:13   50 years ago because of the setting and [TS]

00:10:15   all of that and it it and as a result is [TS]

00:10:18   so timeless and it's great and and the [TS]

00:10:20   fact is yeah it has so many of those [TS]

00:10:22   vignettes in it that it it's in some [TS]

00:10:24   ways it whoever thought to run it 24 [TS]

00:10:26   hours a day over christmas on TBS is a [TS]

00:10:30   genius because you really can kind of [TS]

00:10:32   chop it up in a blender and it doesn't [TS]

00:10:34   matter it's just kind of charming and [TS]

00:10:36   fun and nice to see it and I use [TS]

00:10:38   sometimes i use the word charming a lot [TS]

00:10:40   to describe the certain kinds of movies [TS]

00:10:42   and TV shows but i really believe [TS]

00:10:44   there's something to be said for for [TS]

00:10:45   that kind of quality of like it just [TS]

00:10:47   makes me feel good to watch it and it [TS]

00:10:49   fits nice and it's enjoyable and it's [TS]

00:10:51   nostalgic in a way and it's just it's [TS]

00:10:53   got all those all those pieces to it [TS]

00:10:55   it's got its got a great get tie into [TS]

00:10:57   that I that I discovered recently which [TS]

00:10:59   I hadn't thought about which is that the [TS]

00:11:02   the character of scut Farkus the bully [TS]

00:11:05   who beat Amon did not realize the [TS]

00:11:07   recently that he appears in those two [TS]

00:11:09   sort of flashforward episodes of [TS]

00:11:11   dollhouse the ones with felicia day he [TS]

00:11:14   is he's like this because he's this tall [TS]

00:11:16   redheaded kid and like for some reason [TS]

00:11:18   when especially when I was growing up [TS]

00:11:19   because this movie is set [TS]

00:11:21   it's from the eighties but it is set [TS]

00:11:23   much earlier I always sort of assumed [TS]

00:11:26   because it's done so well as a movie of [TS]

00:11:28   that time I was assumed it was from that [TS]

00:11:30   era and so when I realized that no this [TS]

00:11:33   is from the eighties and thus the actors [TS]

00:11:35   you know who are now in their thirties [TS]

00:11:37   or forties you know like if it started [TS]

00:11:39   really strange to see them on TV shows [TS]

00:11:41   that are modern and like his second [TS]

00:11:44   house that guy only like 30 now it [TS]

00:11:46   doesn't make any sense that was the only [TS]

00:11:48   thing that caused me to disconnect that [TS]

00:11:50   movie because the mom has this 1980 Cape [TS]

00:11:52   Kate Capshaw style hair that says they [TS]

00:11:55   didn't wear hair like that in the [TS]

00:11:57   forties did they and the dad is Aggies [TS]

00:12:00   perfectly cast but he's kind of old to [TS]

00:12:03   have such a young son may be the age [TS]

00:12:06   difference always intrigued me because [TS]

00:12:07   she's so much older than his wife and [TS]

00:12:10   the only way I can explain it as maybe [TS]

00:12:12   he spent the thirties thinking he'll [TS]

00:12:14   never have a family there with [TS]

00:12:16   depression was on you couldn't start a [TS]

00:12:17   family then it's just because he's an [TS]

00:12:19   Oldsmobile man it ages you have a vague [TS]

00:12:23   some historical explanation for these [TS]

00:12:25   were the days when like you know people [TS]

00:12:28   used to die in childbirth like we're [TS]

00:12:29   very very high rates you have to marry a [TS]

00:12:31   lot of different women just to ensure [TS]

00:12:33   that one of the would survive to raise [TS]

00:12:34   the children the 1950s 47-43 this is way [TS]

00:12:38   more thought than I'd ever given to this [TS]

00:12:40   but you know you know for you you do [TS]

00:12:42   know physicians were washing their hands [TS]

00:12:44   by that point right i mean childbed [TS]

00:12:45   fever was installed a thing in charlotte [TS]

00:12:47   was urging shouts idea the on temporary [TS]

00:12:50   gene Shepard of resin traffic right [TS]

00:12:52   Urlacher e-book I like you imagine gene [TS]

00:12:54   Shalit Christmas still that's a very [TS]

00:12:58   different movie [TS]

00:12:59   yes year you're going to have a halt [TS]

00:13:01   holiday thanks to the Christmas story [TS]

00:13:03   that there's my house i'm wearing that [TS]

00:13:05   crazy kid pop otay Shepherd served in [TS]

00:13:08   Korea didn't he was in those World War [TS]

00:13:10   two [TS]

00:13:11   he was in a single course so in fact [TS]

00:13:13   these stories he's telling them in the [TS]

00:13:15   sixties movie was made the eighties but [TS]

00:13:17   he was really talking about the thirties [TS]

00:13:19   originally I don't know the movies [TS]

00:13:20   center of an indeterminate time that [TS]

00:13:22   seems like it might be the fifties but [TS]

00:13:24   these are about this really the thirties [TS]

00:13:25   he was born in 21 [TS]

00:13:26   so he's nostalgic for someone else's [TS]

00:13:28   childhood well now i have to recalibrate [TS]

00:13:30   I'm thinking that the old man is [TS]

00:13:31   shell-shocked from his trench warfare [TS]

00:13:32   were one that's that's my new historical [TS]

00:13:34   one of the trench foot and pick your [TS]

00:13:38   poison hero palms next steak frites ass [TS]

00:13:40   and they just weren't appreciated and [TS]

00:13:42   now he isn't it suspicious that he [TS]

00:13:44   didn't actually know Italian then I mean [TS]

00:13:46   think about you clearly he appears to [TS]

00:13:48   have been I've nothing I got nothing i [TS]

00:13:51   just running out the next and you drop [TS]

00:13:53   you drop that that that kid was on [TS]

00:13:55   fringe but i think last year now a [TS]

00:13:57   dollhouse for dollhouse right but last [TS]

00:13:59   year we we dealt with the fact that [TS]

00:14:02   Peter Billingsley is in elf [TS]

00:14:04   yes yes and Marilyn line apparently an [TS]

00:14:07   iron man two original original iron man [TS]

00:14:10   really yeah and scott schwartz who plays [TS]

00:14:13   flick went on to do some some you just [TS]

00:14:16   sell my work as well and work apparently [TS]

00:14:17   I'm not necessarily genre-specific the [TS]

00:14:21   kind of enjoyed by geeks billingsley is [TS]

00:14:23   friends with I think jon favreau the [TS]

00:14:25   manager I think they do the co-producer [TS]

00:14:28   hunter right ya know anything more to [TS]

00:14:29   say about a christmas story please [TS]

00:14:32   it's a good movie like fantastic limited [TS]

00:14:36   by like the wind she devised I don't [TS]

00:14:38   know how else to like the Tin Man next [TS]

00:14:46   alright so so a christmas story and more [TS]

00:14:49   in in in the holiday movie halt forever [TS]

00:14:53   flying and must be discovered that it [TS]

00:14:55   did steroids and then we might take it [TS]

00:14:57   out later but otherwise it's in forever [TS]

00:14:59   whoo-hoo would like to choose next I [TS]

00:15:02   would like to choose next I stand step [TS]

00:15:04   for starting value to the bolts & lock [TS]

00:15:07   me in [TS]

00:15:08   yes so my film the volunteer condition [TS]

00:15:10   to go ahead there's no air bizarre [TS]

00:15:12   condition holiday in a 1942 American [TS]

00:15:15   musical which is a terrific film it's [TS]

00:15:18   got being cross be in it it's got Fred [TS]

00:15:21   Astaire it's musics by Irving Berlin [TS]

00:15:23   it's like the Christmas see is the [TS]

00:15:26   American musical easiest thing you could [TS]

00:15:28   possibly imagine and also is not just [TS]

00:15:31   about Christmas it's about all kinds of [TS]

00:15:33   holidays being called holiday and so [TS]

00:15:36   that the conceit is that being Crosby [TS]

00:15:38   he's tired of the big city life up there [TS]

00:15:40   in Manhattan he wants to move out to the [TS]

00:15:42   country like Greenwich Connecticut or [TS]

00:15:44   somewhere where it's still country and [TS]

00:15:45   everything's quiet small in those days [TS]

00:15:48   and so he wants to start farm and farm [TS]

00:15:50   doesn't do so well so he decides that [TS]

00:15:52   he'll take his acting and singing talent [TS]

00:15:54   and production production town and [TS]

00:15:56   having left first airing a club in the [TS]

00:15:57   big city and having lost his girlfriend [TS]

00:16:00   stare he sets up shop with the idea that [TS]

00:16:02   he'll run and in just on holidays like [TS]

00:16:05   Christmas and groundhogs day maybe I [TS]

00:16:08   don't know [TS]

00:16:09   well that's it that's a business model [TS]

00:16:11   that can't fail you can feel that's what [TS]

00:16:12   spawned a successful the successful [TS]

00:16:16   hotel chain named after la quinta right [TS]

00:16:18   and no way that that wrong [TS]

00:16:20   sorry it's just concerning though that [TS]

00:16:22   now holiday and has an entirely [TS]

00:16:24   different meaning than what it actually [TS]

00:16:25   meant when the movie was made it was [TS]

00:16:27   confusing the first time I saw the movie [TS]

00:16:28   I thought something was wrong that hotel [TS]

00:16:30   that hotel you so only be open on [TS]

00:16:32   holidays too and they decided you know [TS]

00:16:33   what we're paying all the staff just to [TS]

00:16:36   sleep in the bed for 29 days on the [TS]

00:16:37   month [TS]

00:16:38   it's a pretty thing well you know that [TS]

00:16:40   long gap in April and May so the movies [TS]

00:16:43   full of fantastic music they the one [TS]

00:16:46   that's best known for of course is white [TS]

00:16:48   Christmas and there's this tremendously [TS]

00:16:50   wonderful surreal bit at the end where [TS]

00:16:52   the front of stair character whose name [TS]

00:16:55   is Ted Hanover if you created Jim Hardy [TS]

00:16:58   and Ted Hanover convinces Hollywood to [TS]

00:17:02   make a movie about holiday inn in the [TS]

00:17:05   movie holiday inn and so they cut and [TS]

00:17:07   show you a set at some point and the set [TS]

00:17:10   is the set we've been watching the [TS]

00:17:11   entire movie and then they pull back and [TS]

00:17:13   you see that its asset but they're [TS]

00:17:15   showing you a set as asset because [TS]

00:17:17   they're filming it with all the cameras [TS]

00:17:19   in it as if they were filming the set it [TS]

00:17:21   is a little surreal for a movie made in [TS]

00:17:22   1942 I liked that bit too but full of [TS]

00:17:25   great music and we try to watch it every [TS]

00:17:27   year it's one of the film's in my house [TS]

00:17:29   set out my wife and I try to bring up [TS]

00:17:31   your cousin music and it's just a silly [TS]

00:17:32   plot and that's got you know great [TS]

00:17:35   singing dancing that kind of thing in it [TS]

00:17:38   also racism right also raised oh no wait [TS]

00:17:41   should we just brushed under the carpet [TS]

00:17:42   snow likely also races absolutely what [TS]

00:17:46   did anything so it's got a senior so the [TS]

00:17:48   American tradition religion to be fair [TS]

00:17:50   christmas story also has its a brief [TS]

00:17:52   races scene 2 so what's the regular [TS]

00:17:54   racism I think about the Chinese [TS]

00:17:56   restaurant is already [TS]

00:17:57   which is it possible bad because it is [TS]

00:18:00   so hilarious but at the same time yes [TS]

00:18:02   terribly rich with so this basically [TS]

00:18:04   you're saying that this is the racist [TS]

00:18:05   wing of the holiday movie ball basically [TS]

00:18:07   saying that Christmas is racist and [TS]

00:18:09   having been white and Christmas hello [TS]

00:18:11   lump of coal I mean come on [TS]

00:18:14   having been in chinese restaurants as a [TS]

00:18:16   Jew before I married someone who's not [TS]

00:18:18   Jewish on Christmas day I will say that [TS]

00:18:20   the you know the Christmas story scene [TS]

00:18:22   is relatively accurate in many regards [TS]

00:18:24   so the so the in holiday am that issue [TS]

00:18:27   is of course lincoln's birthday where [TS]

00:18:29   the performers apply black face and sing [TS]

00:18:31   a song called Abraham and it's a little [TS]

00:18:35   terrifying another the terminally [TS]

00:18:36   classics from what I was just looking [TS]

00:18:38   this up to make sure that's right they [TS]

00:18:40   refused to edit movies they want to show [TS]

00:18:41   them on edited so they in fact will show [TS]

00:18:44   the film with this extra tray classic [TS]

00:18:47   movies and AMC will show the movie with [TS]

00:18:51   the Abraham seen it and it's usually cut [TS]

00:18:54   and the first time I saw I'd seen Holly [TS]

00:18:56   and for years and years and i'm watching [TS]

00:18:58   I'm like I don't remember them doing [TS]

00:18:59   abraham lincoln's birthday [TS]

00:19:00   I don't remember being Crosby putting on [TS]

00:19:03   blackface old no no [TS]

00:19:08   and the thing about that scene is like [TS]

00:19:10   its it opens up with Bing Crosby singing [TS]

00:19:12   in French first of all being Crosby [TS]

00:19:14   singing anything that it you know you've [TS]

00:19:17   screwed up when you do anything that [TS]

00:19:19   overshadows Bing Crosby singing one of [TS]

00:19:21   the best vocalist in the 20th century [TS]

00:19:23   and so it's bad enough because he's he's [TS]

00:19:27   in this uncle remus costume and it's bad [TS]

00:19:29   and you're you're like oh my god what a [TS]

00:19:32   different error this was this is [TS]

00:19:33   horrifying this is horrible and they [TS]

00:19:35   started gets the end of the song realize [TS]

00:19:37   okay they're going to move on to the [TS]

00:19:39   next holiday is and then the female lead [TS]

00:19:41   comes onstage in out four hundred times [TS]

00:19:45   worse most great more racist stereotype [TS]

00:19:48   like all this it's like it's like a real [TS]

00:19:51   springtime for Hitler moment for your [TS]

00:19:53   job is you just know and your job is [TS]

00:19:55   like on your chest because the phrase [TS]

00:19:57   like I'm not saying they're not [TS]

00:19:59   yeah like some part of you is going to [TS]

00:20:02   look at least get that keyboard [TS]

00:20:03   background your head saying okay totally [TS]

00:20:05   different time racism was far far far [TS]

00:20:07   far different than that was now and then [TS]

00:20:09   you're like I had no idea how did this [TS]

00:20:11   get released and people not just like [TS]

00:20:14   breaking excuse a little bit then you're [TS]

00:20:15   like okay not that much nobody know but [TS]

00:20:18   i think the business there's a thing of [TS]

00:20:19   the time which is that minstrel ism had [TS]

00:20:21   a long history wasn't purse a racist as [TS]

00:20:24   a point where developed into that we can [TS]

00:20:26   have a whole discussion about that black [TS]

00:20:28   people actually dressed up as minstrels [TS]

00:20:30   and performed is it's a very often but [TS]

00:20:33   the weird part to me is not just that [TS]

00:20:35   but then while these people are singing [TS]

00:20:36   black face behind them are the black [TS]

00:20:39   servants in the house including Louise [TS]

00:20:42   Ellen beavers I look up her name here [TS]

00:20:44   was plays mammy and like every movie [TS]

00:20:46   during her lifetime and including this [TS]

00:20:48   one and her kids are singing along and [TS]

00:20:51   of course they're black they're not a [TS]

00:20:52   black face their black with these white [TS]

00:20:54   people in blackface singing and it's not [TS]

00:20:56   set up to be funny it's an absolutely [TS]

00:20:58   serious moment so if you take it for [TS]

00:21:01   what it is it's actually fine it's just [TS]

00:21:04   terrifying insight into what was [TS]

00:21:06   acceptable portrayal wasn't it wasn't a [TS]

00:21:09   parody or Lampoon but anyway it is just [TS]

00:21:12   an odd moment movie but you know where [TS]

00:21:15   we're not confronted with having to see [TS]

00:21:16   it it actually turns out that all your [TS]

00:21:18   favorite movies have black faces that [TS]

00:21:20   have been cut another our shows busters [TS]

00:21:22   these diehard the die-hard black facing [TS]

00:21:25   the top that's really true actually you [TS]

00:21:27   know the worst one is in 2001 a Space [TS]

00:21:29   Odyssey that is the most offensive [TS]

00:21:31   blackface scene i have ever ever seen [TS]

00:21:34   but you got to get the bootleg David [TS]

00:21:36   really overdoing it [TS]

00:21:39   yeah yeah it's really it's really [TS]

00:21:41   horrible you know it's funny what I [TS]

00:21:43   think I think we may have touched on [TS]

00:21:45   this briefly in previous podcast but it [TS]

00:21:47   is fascinating not to get off of holiday [TS]

00:21:50   movies into crippling racism and culture [TS]

00:21:53   that's what every podcast involves and [TS]

00:21:55   the one that always gets me it again not [TS]

00:21:58   a I'm not holiday-themed per se but [TS]

00:22:01   actually a tradition that that I i got [TS]

00:22:05   from from Lisa's husband [TS]

00:22:07   Oh ducts which is which is a which is [TS]

00:22:09   the Marx Brothers & duck soup every yes [TS]

00:22:12   3 New Year's Eve we want we watch duck [TS]

00:22:13   soup and the marketplace duck soup and [TS]

00:22:16   there is there's actually a number in [TS]

00:22:17   there that does have a lot of a slightly [TS]

00:22:19   horrific black facing right in the [TS]

00:22:21   middle of it with with all four marks [TS]

00:22:23   reference yes and they're there are [TS]

00:22:24   several other Marx Brothers movies with [TS]

00:22:26   similar either lines or or in fact in [TS]

00:22:30   one movie a whole production number data [TS]

00:22:32   races that and and that one blows me [TS]

00:22:34   away because it's like guys you're [TS]

00:22:36   Jewish you yourself are an oppressed [TS]

00:22:38   group do you not see what you're doing [TS]

00:22:40   here but it again it's just something I [TS]

00:22:42   watched all those movies as a kid and I [TS]

00:22:44   have no recollection of this i feel like [TS]

00:22:46   my parents were that's kind of parents [TS]

00:22:47   would like sit me down and had a talk [TS]

00:22:49   about it but apparently justice i'm [TS]

00:22:51   almost i'm almost tempted to change my [TS]

00:22:53   vote to duck soup and duck soup has [TS]

00:22:55   nothing to do with the holidays and all [TS]

00:22:56   but it's a wonderful holiday tradition [TS]

00:22:58   and it's a it is such an absurd movie to [TS]

00:23:00   there's ever a little things i like [TS]

00:23:01   about it's a great hungry New Year's Eve [TS]

00:23:03   thing and it's short I was my favorite [TS]

00:23:04   Marx Brothers movie grown ups [TS]

00:23:06   yeah that's where I got one of my [TS]

00:23:07   twitter icons because for one of my [TS]

00:23:08   Twitter streams i have Margaret Dumont [TS]

00:23:09   is my car Oh from that movie with you [TS]

00:23:13   have been spalding my house but no one's [TS]

00:23:20   gonna answer the whole Lake that the [TS]

00:23:22   market marshmallows yes other than the [TS]

00:23:24   hundred and the occasional bits of of [TS]

00:23:26   quite disturbing racism lovely lovely [TS]

00:23:29   sunday and holiday and so I guess we [TS]

00:23:31   have to indulge holiday in glitter we [TS]

00:23:33   inducting it without mr. lincoln's [TS]

00:23:35   birthday I don't important historical [TS]

00:23:37   record I think we'll be able to see if [TS]

00:23:39   you rent it i don't know what the DVD is [TS]

00:23:41   like and if you rent it rented out if [TS]

00:23:43   you can read it if you watch it on [TS]

00:23:44   television get the DVD it's you know [TS]

00:23:47   it's part of the history of [TS]

00:23:49   entertainment what people watch the time [TS]

00:23:50   what our grandparents watched was first [TS]

00:23:52   out so i think we induct it without the [TS]

00:23:55   scene with the important recollection [TS]

00:23:57   that movie was made with this seemed [TS]

00:23:59   alright fair enough [TS]

00:24:00   as the inductor you get to decide how we [TS]

00:24:03   how we view this movie for all time so [TS]

00:24:05   thank you but one last night I'm holiday [TS]

00:24:07   inn which I've which I found fascinating [TS]

00:24:09   they actually took the exact same sets [TS]

00:24:12   years later when they made white [TS]

00:24:15   christmas and the holiday the the [TS]

00:24:17   holiday inn like club is the exact same [TS]

00:24:20   set they use for the generals lot of the [TS]

00:24:23   ski lodge in white Christmas [TS]

00:24:25   so if it's the they turned it around a [TS]

00:24:28   little bit but it is exactly stick for [TS]

00:24:30   stick to the same one and you can tell [TS]

00:24:32   because in holiday in white christmas [TS]

00:24:35   which is a Technicolor movie they didn't [TS]

00:24:37   even bother to paint this [TS]

00:24:39   black-and-white set it is it looks like [TS]

00:24:42   a black-and-white movie with like the [TS]

00:24:43   only one that's been colorized with like [TS]

00:24:45   human skin tones in it i should also [TS]

00:24:47   point out that that indian taco has his [TS]

00:24:49   own equivalent of a holiday movie vault [TS]

00:24:51   and it's a it's down in his basement and [TS]

00:24:54   that's where white christmas has been [TS]

00:24:55   locked up and he doesn't feed especially [TS]

00:24:57   if it's changed out of it puts the [TS]

00:25:00   lotion on its skin and never ever gets [TS]

00:25:03   aired again no it's it's the same as the [TS]

00:25:06   same vault that like they used to put [TS]

00:25:08   the Hulk in like the first issues the [TS]

00:25:09   comic to prevent it from getting out and [TS]

00:25:11   wreaking havoc upon innocent people is [TS]

00:25:13   the same philanthropy with which I [TS]

00:25:15   protect people from white Christmas [TS]

00:25:17   thank you we appreciate it do you [TS]

00:25:19   spoilers spoilers are you gonna ruin [TS]

00:25:21   somebody's a beloved holiday movie again [TS]

00:25:23   this year I i actually have had many [TS]

00:25:27   requests to lie creature like repeat [TS]

00:25:29   that episode I am actually in the early [TS]

00:25:32   stages of preparing what a twitter [TS]

00:25:34   follower pre professionally described as [TS]

00:25:38   the detractors commentary of white [TS]

00:25:41   Christmas I'm going to do my own like [TS]

00:25:42   rifftrax that's not joking it just [TS]

00:25:44   simply go shot-by-shot beautiful hissing [TS]

00:25:46   okay now here's here's the part where I [TS]

00:25:49   think you could kind of see you kinda [TS]

00:25:51   see Bing Crosby's but underneath those [TS]

00:25:53   tighty-whities because the director just [TS]

00:25:55   didn't care i was framing it didn't even [TS]

00:25:57   give him a new pair of Underpants I [TS]

00:25:59   wouldn't say so much [TS]

00:26:00   there it is everybody look forward to [TS]

00:26:02   that will be everybody understands [TS]

00:26:04   remember for next year preview of any [TS]

00:26:06   not goes next [TS]

00:26:07   the strategy it's gonna be a big project [TS]

00:26:09   it's gonna be good let's go from the [TS]

00:26:11   from horrible racist scenes and hot 11 [TS]

00:26:14   holiday movies to Steve lots of natural [TS]

00:26:18   transition i don't know how i feel about [TS]

00:26:20   that [TS]

00:26:21   what are you gonna do Steve well well [TS]

00:26:24   actually it might turn out to be a [TS]

00:26:25   better segue than you think but only [TS]

00:26:27   very tenuously oh boy ok so we look I [TS]

00:26:30   haven't already [TS]

00:26:32   no no Skeletor ball [TS]

00:26:34   I mentioned at the end of last year's [TS]

00:26:36   holiday vault that that I was bitter [TS]

00:26:38   that a christmas story had mentioned and [TS]

00:26:40   I really wanted to induct that this year [TS]

00:26:42   but then I caught wind that Dan might [TS]

00:26:45   want to choose it so in the spirit of [TS]

00:26:47   Christmas i decided to let him have all [TS]

00:26:49   because i'm a giver [TS]

00:26:51   but I did pick another film from the [TS]

00:26:55   great Bob Clark who is for modern fee [TS]

00:26:59   it has been marked with peaks and [TS]

00:27:00   valleys but i believe the peaks are very [TS]

00:27:02   high indeed i'm talking about like a [TS]

00:27:04   christmas story he did Porky's baby [TS]

00:27:08   geniuses to electric babylou i think was [TS]

00:27:12   his one of those Peaks is the film i've [TS]

00:27:15   chosen for this year's holiday movie [TS]

00:27:17   evolved and that is 1974 black christmas [TS]

00:27:20   you are going to get international [TS]

00:27:22   production starting it is it is a [TS]

00:27:27   delightful tale of a sorority house at [TS]

00:27:30   Christmas break and the psychotic killer [TS]

00:27:32   living in the Attic who periodically [TS]

00:27:34   emerges to kill the ones that didn't go [TS]

00:27:36   home for the holidays was the call [TS]

00:27:38   coming from inside the house this is [TS]

00:27:39   great this is great is is the killer see [TS]

00:27:42   so he stood the killer starts to kill [TS]

00:27:44   the girls in the sorority house why [TS]

00:27:46   don't the rest of them leave saying [TS]

00:27:48   there is a killer there was a horrible [TS]

00:27:50   kit murder here or if there's a good [TS]

00:27:52   reason that Jason don't know it'sit's [TS]

00:27:53   actually brilliant the because it is [TS]

00:27:56   Christmas break and the girls are you [TS]

00:27:57   know periodically leaving the sorority [TS]

00:27:59   house to go home for the holidays or go [TS]

00:28:02   skiing and naturally just before most of [TS]

00:28:05   them get dispatched they say something [TS]

00:28:06   along the lines of I might not be here [TS]

00:28:08   when you get back because my dad's [TS]

00:28:09   coming to pick me up and then lo and [TS]

00:28:11   behold when the person gets back that [TS]

00:28:12   that person is our molecules but is in [TS]

00:28:14   fact there because the killer is keeping [TS]

00:28:16   his his his trophies in the Attic [TS]

00:28:19   oh just like John McCain no one ever [TS]

00:28:21   notices the smell or nothing really [TS]

00:28:24   apparently not [TS]

00:28:24   apparently not although i excuse you [TS]

00:28:26   have up there it's you do get perfect [TS]

00:28:29   and it's apparently soundproof as well [TS]

00:28:32   because this guy does as Glenn mentioned [TS]

00:28:34   make quite a few phone calls to the to [TS]

00:28:37   the residents of the sorority house [TS]

00:28:39   really it's really awkward but it's on a [TS]

00:28:41   party-line to write get off the phone [TS]

00:28:44   kill your mom come on the phone but no [TS]

00:28:46   this is [TS]

00:28:46   this is easily the best of the Christmas [TS]

00:28:48   based horror movies and I think one of [TS]

00:28:50   the best horror movies at the seventies [TS]

00:28:52   period i hesitate to call it a slasher [TS]

00:28:54   film because i think it is higher [TS]

00:28:56   quality than most of those but pretty [TS]

00:28:58   much every slasher that came afterwards [TS]

00:29:00   crib from it in that black christmas i [TS]

00:29:02   think introduce the sorority house [TS]

00:29:04   setting the camera shots taken from the [TS]

00:29:07   point of view of the killer which i [TS]

00:29:09   think most people would attribute to [TS]

00:29:10   halloween was done here for years [TS]

00:29:13   earlier the repeated phone calls from [TS]

00:29:15   the killer as i mentioned and these are [TS]

00:29:17   much much worse than just the check the [TS]

00:29:19   kids this is actually some really creepy [TS]

00:29:21   schizophrenic sounding stuff with the [TS]

00:29:23   guy uses multiple voices and speaks as a [TS]

00:29:25   child sometimes and occasionally just [TS]

00:29:27   drops into totally normal speech [TS]

00:29:29   patterns and indeed plan the call is [TS]

00:29:33   coming from inside the house so you work [TS]

00:29:35   you were correct there I was worried for [TS]

00:29:37   a second we're going to pick a black [TS]

00:29:38   yellow Christmas notes that's a good one [TS]

00:29:41   too though right you know i just i'm not [TS]

00:29:43   i'm not super familiar this but I [TS]

00:29:45   wouldn't look at the wikipedia page what [TS]

00:29:46   we're talking and notice that this in a [TS]

00:29:48   tie into our earlier discussion cured [TS]

00:29:50   aaliyah's in this movie here 2001 Fame [TS]

00:29:54   also Olivia Hussey who was in romeo and [TS]

00:29:57   juliet juliet Margot Kidder and Margot [TS]

00:30:00   Kidder here playing that here playing [TS]

00:30:02   away from type as a drunk kind of a pic [TS]

00:30:07   oh this is the darkest holiday would [TS]

00:30:11   evolve ever so it's wonderful it's a [TS]

00:30:13   wonderful film whose Andrea Martin plan [TS]

00:30:15   this film well I don't seem it and she's [TS]

00:30:17   got more Andrea Martin he's somewhat [TS]

00:30:19   attractive semi amusing friend [TS]

00:30:21   well the sorority girls with the curly [TS]

00:30:23   hair and glasses who she's really more [TS]

00:30:26   of an accessory she doesn't really rise [TS]

00:30:27   to or two I do i think the fast lane [TS]

00:30:30   choice her talents but it's it's a [TS]

00:30:32   wonderful summer film this is a [TS]

00:30:35   Christmas Eve and you only a scary one [TS]

00:30:37   it's it's a good thing thrown the DVD [TS]

00:30:40   player wire wrapping gifts or stabbing [TS]

00:30:42   gifts with a knife over and you're [TS]

00:30:43   somewhere so when the cancer sleep [TS]

00:30:45   upstairs you're assembling all the toys [TS]

00:30:47   there you go you have after you've put [TS]

00:30:49   together the bike with the Japanese [TS]

00:30:50   instructions and you're in a bitter [TS]

00:30:52   bitter mood this is the this is the way [TS]

00:30:54   to go [TS]

00:30:54   at least somebody's having a worst [TS]

00:30:56   Christmas Eve than I am just don't have [TS]

00:30:57   don't have the volume up to louder [TS]

00:30:59   one of your kids will come downstairs to [TS]

00:31:01   be like what do you want God it does [TS]

00:31:04   have very little blood so if you happen [TS]

00:31:06   to be somebody who's squeamish that's [TS]

00:31:08   actually a pretty decent film for for [TS]

00:31:09   you know horror beginners and contrary [TS]

00:31:14   to the template that Halloween started [TS]

00:31:16   the Virgin dies first [TS]

00:31:18   so it's actually an improvement over [TS]

00:31:19   what came later it was between this and [TS]

00:31:21   home alone [TS]

00:31:25   I think you did a good job by by another [TS]

00:31:29   psychopathic keeps picking people off [TS]

00:31:30   one-by-one during the holidays and [TS]

00:31:32   inside a house that's right [TS]

00:31:34   die hard 2 also somebody skulks around [TS]

00:31:36   killing people inside a big house that I [TS]

00:31:39   think about our mothers our headlight [TS]

00:31:41   different holiday and no one is killed [TS]

00:31:44   to my knowledge accepting the same that [TS]

00:31:47   they removed spoken of murder see all by [TS]

00:31:49   briefly considered I hard to for my [TS]

00:31:52   choice this year but us decided that [TS]

00:31:54   it's not as good as die hard one [TS]

00:31:56   it's not the sequels rarely are still [TS]

00:31:59   still decent still better than a lot of [TS]

00:32:01   crap your action movies but you know [TS]

00:32:03   what it doesn't quite capture the magic [TS]

00:32:04   I think we should move on because I'm [TS]

00:32:06   going sir [TS]

00:32:07   yes I know it's starting to get dark in [TS]

00:32:10   here [TS]

00:32:10   let's all it so let's go to Andy next [TS]

00:32:14   you didn't put a halt it is involved i [TS]

00:32:17   I'm entering it in the vault now in the [TS]

00:32:19   back of the values extremes to put [TS]

00:32:21   involved in your screams of horror from [TS]

00:32:23   the vault when it entered I thought [TS]

00:32:25   maybe there was an alternative all that [TS]

00:32:26   you were putting that it i'm telling you [TS]

00:32:28   i'm looking for Donnelly this podcasting [TS]

00:32:30   hear all those special of sound effects [TS]

00:32:32   will be laying in hear the creaking the [TS]

00:32:34   fall to the screaming and that's gonna [TS]

00:32:36   be awesome [TS]

00:32:36   it is IMVU podcast listener [TS]

00:32:40   Oh holiday and has just mysteriously [TS]

00:32:42   disappeared from the ball it's coming [TS]

00:32:45   from inside the vault oh no it's cool [TS]

00:32:48   though is it was gonna dip out for you [TS]

00:32:50   know some eggnog so it'll probably back [TS]

00:32:52   later it's going to get phone call [TS]

00:32:53   though it's coming from inside the vault [TS]

00:32:54   so good huh yeah any what do you got [TS]

00:32:59   well you got a topic what was horrible [TS]

00:33:05   what horrible thing will be emanating [TS]

00:33:06   from your heart warming christmas [TS]

00:33:08   special [TS]

00:33:11   well I we talk this afternoon you [TS]

00:33:14   reminded me that I actually talked about [TS]

00:33:16   the sctv holiday special last year so [TS]

00:33:19   let's consider that already there even [TS]

00:33:21   though was sort of snuck in under an [TS]

00:33:23   asterisk I decided in lil in lieu of [TS]

00:33:26   that to talk about what is actually a [TS]

00:33:30   legitimate sincere beloved holiday TV [TS]

00:33:33   classic for me every year this this show [TS]

00:33:37   comes on every year [TS]

00:33:39   I not only watch it I'm like they're 10 [TS]

00:33:41   minutes early I'm excited like a kid for [TS]

00:33:44   the show to come on and when the show [TS]

00:33:46   ends i am just so happy and so thankful [TS]

00:33:50   that Christmas exists and it really is [TS]

00:33:53   Christmas when the show airs and again [TS]

00:33:55   it sounds like i'm going to be sarcastic [TS]

00:33:56   then say it's about the seals and Crofts [TS]

00:33:59   robot robot Christmas crowd cartoon of [TS]

00:34:01   1974 no no I'm being sincere here it is [TS]

00:34:04   the last show of late show with david [TS]

00:34:07   letterman before Christmas it is the [TS]

00:34:10   unofficial david letterman holiday [TS]

00:34:12   special never announced never promote [TS]

00:34:15   promoted that way but they do the exact [TS]

00:34:17   same show each and every season each [TS]

00:34:19   with a certain segment that you know [TS]

00:34:21   it's coming but it's the greatest thing [TS]

00:34:23   ever [TS]

00:34:24   so they this is paul shaffer is going to [TS]

00:34:27   tell from from behind the piano is going [TS]

00:34:29   to tell the story about him watching the [TS]

00:34:32   share Christmas special Sonny and Cher [TS]

00:34:34   christmas special in the mid-seventies [TS]

00:34:36   always the same script as oh it always [TS]

00:34:38   kills only yeah you mentioned that she [TS]

00:34:45   wasn't she was in Victorian clothes [TS]

00:34:47   her hands were in a month pause for the [TS]

00:34:49   laughs from the audience every time okay [TS]

00:34:52   Jay Thomas comes on as a guest [TS]

00:34:56   he tells the story about the time that [TS]

00:34:57   he and his friend gave the lone ranger a [TS]

00:34:59   ride back from her from a car show [TS]

00:35:01   appearance that he and a he and Dave [TS]

00:35:04   will like take turns throwing footballs [TS]

00:35:07   at a Christmas tree with a giant [TS]

00:35:08   meatball on the top of it they're going [TS]

00:35:10   to take turns throwing these footballs [TS]

00:35:12   and trying to knock the meatball off the [TS]

00:35:14   tree and sometimes Jake sometimes [TS]

00:35:16   sometimes jay thomas gets it sometimes [TS]

00:35:18   David Letterman gets it but you can see [TS]

00:35:20   every single time they really really [TS]

00:35:23   want to be the one who [TS]

00:35:24   it's two knocks the meatball off the [TS]

00:35:26   tree this year and then but the but the [TS]

00:35:28   the best part of all [TS]

00:35:31   Darlene love singing christmas baby [TS]

00:35:33   because problem yeah and maybe the first [TS]

00:35:35   time they ever did this it was done like [TS]

00:35:38   almost any other musical appearance on [TS]

00:35:40   the show extremely well produced well [TS]

00:35:41   done but nothing spectacular about it [TS]

00:35:44   but you can sort of you can also tell [TS]

00:35:46   that everyone associated with this show [TS]

00:35:48   wants this to be the best five minutes [TS]

00:35:50   they do every single year there's they [TS]

00:35:53   bring a chorus that bring an orchestra [TS]

00:35:55   they bring soloists they find a new way [TS]

00:35:58   to get the saxophone player in for his [TS]

00:36:00   big saxophone solo I'm really looking [TS]

00:36:02   forward to it especially this year [TS]

00:36:03   because the sex of their regular [TS]

00:36:05   saxophone player left earlier this [TS]

00:36:07   season and now there's a new guy in [TS]

00:36:09   there I don't know if he's going to fill [TS]

00:36:10   in where they're going to get the old [TS]

00:36:11   guy back in yet [TS]

00:36:12   you can tell by this is a smile on my [TS]

00:36:14   face that's about eight miles wide [TS]

00:36:16   I love this each and every year and [TS]

00:36:19   possibly it's because one common thread [TS]

00:36:23   through a lot of these things we've been [TS]

00:36:24   talking about our favorite favorite [TS]

00:36:25   Christmas shows a lot of it is just its [TS]

00:36:27   associated with so many really great [TS]

00:36:29   memories that we a christmas story comes [TS]

00:36:31   on at some point and we're gonna be [TS]

00:36:33   seeing it through the course of the day [TS]

00:36:34   it's gonna be tied into whatever we do [TS]

00:36:35   on Christmas each and every year [TS]

00:36:37   Letterman shows but I've been watching [TS]

00:36:39   the show since I was a kid it what [TS]

00:36:41   didn't exist before be before I was a [TS]

00:36:44   teenager and it wasn't designed to be [TS]

00:36:48   this this commercial sort of thing [TS]

00:36:50   that's going to sell products and sell [TS]

00:36:51   advertising it just feels as though it [TS]

00:36:53   just grew naturally and organically and [TS]

00:36:55   everybody including the audience is just [TS]

00:36:57   enjoying every damn second of it so I'm [TS]

00:37:01   looking forward to if ever I i got my [TS]

00:37:03   schedule screwed up and I missed it i [TS]

00:37:05   would really have to petition like the [TS]

00:37:07   internet saying that somebody record [TS]

00:37:09   this and post the video because I can't [TS]

00:37:12   have my christmas until I see the [TS]

00:37:13   lettermen christmas show amazing that [TS]

00:37:15   they you know they essentially do the [TS]

00:37:16   same thing over here every year why not [TS]

00:37:19   david has the same show every night [TS]

00:37:21   that's true oh zing you got a point for [TS]

00:37:24   backpack that's right Dave I'm sorry he [TS]

00:37:29   couldn't hear you over the sound of the [TS]

00:37:31   kennedy center honor that you receive [TS]

00:37:33   as one of the leading contributors to [TS]

00:37:35   American entertainment now I just didn't [TS]

00:37:37   hear about that because I stopped [TS]

00:37:38   watching him 10 years ago when he [TS]

00:37:39   stopped being funny you know you weren't [TS]

00:37:42   always sing bird finding worried so what [TS]

00:37:45   do you have to contribute to the the the [TS]

00:37:48   increasingly crowded and come on holiday [TS]

00:37:51   movie volt the 1968 classic the lion in [TS]

00:37:55   winter good one [TS]

00:37:57   thank you it's the story of Christmas [TS]

00:38:01   with Henry the second Eleanor of [TS]

00:38:03   Aquitaine and their three squabbling a [TS]

00:38:05   surviving sons to give you a little [TS]

00:38:08   backstory Henry and Eleanor one of [TS]

00:38:10   history's original fun couples she tried [TS]

00:38:15   to have him overthrown and in turn he [TS]

00:38:17   had imprisoned but because they were big [TS]

00:38:20   on appearances he freed her for [TS]

00:38:21   Christmas every year and during so this [TS]

00:38:25   takes place with her being you know [TS]

00:38:26   wrote on a barge up from prison to the [TS]

00:38:28   family stronghold where Henry has been [TS]

00:38:31   shacking up with his son's fiancee [TS]

00:38:33   this is fine by his son Richard because [TS]

00:38:35   Richard wasn't exactly into the ladies [TS]

00:38:37   and over the course of the next I want [TS]

00:38:42   to say 36 hours that the movie takes [TS]

00:38:44   place the sun's conspire to kill one or [TS]

00:38:47   both of their parents Henry and Eleanor [TS]

00:38:49   squabble reconcile squabble reconcile [TS]

00:38:51   blah blah at infinitum and the whole [TS]

00:38:55   thing is just a meditation on the [TS]

00:38:56   madness of going home for the holidays [TS]

00:38:58   and seeing the relatives you know you [TS]

00:38:59   know will drive you nuts and the the [TS]

00:39:02   dialogue the odd katharine hepburn place [TS]

00:39:05   Eleanor of Aquitaine peter o'toole is [TS]

00:39:08   brilliant as Henry the second a [TS]

00:39:11   comparatively young Anthony haha Anthony [TS]

00:39:14   Hopkins is Richard Timothy oh god [TS]

00:39:18   Timothy Dalton that's his name Timothy [TS]

00:39:19   Dalton plays the King of France who [TS]

00:39:22   happens to have had been having things [TS]

00:39:24   to do with Richard on the side and and [TS]

00:39:27   BB you come for that you you come for [TS]

00:39:29   the 1183 imager you stay for the [TS]

00:39:31   dialogue because it's got some of the [TS]

00:39:33   best lines that you're ever going to [TS]

00:39:34   hear in cinema i love that bit but she [TS]

00:39:36   throws herself doses every family has [TS]

00:39:38   its ups and downs but now there's [TS]

00:39:42   there's a scene where after after after [TS]

00:39:43   the Sun seven prison both Henry and [TS]

00:39:45   Eleanor [TS]

00:39:46   and stuck them in the in the dungeons to [TS]

00:39:48   figure out what to do with them [TS]

00:39:49   there's this beautiful scene where [TS]

00:39:50   Katherine Hepburn turns to Pedro to [TS]

00:39:52   lances I have a confession i'm afraid i [TS]

00:39:56   don't much like our children [TS]

00:39:58   well this that I think aaron sorkin [TS]

00:40:01   frequently quotes the line about the [TS]

00:40:02   about the man falling down which i [TS]

00:40:05   believe is from here which was [TS]

00:40:07   yeah it'sit's when the falls on all that [TS]

00:40:08   was left yes it matters anyway I don't [TS]

00:40:10   know how you fall one of the Alliance [TS]

00:40:13   that we used to what shall we hang the [TS]

00:40:15   Holly or each other is one that comes up [TS]

00:40:17   a lot i'm not a huge katharine hepburn [TS]

00:40:20   fan I think she tells I think she I [TS]

00:40:22   think she veers towards the gimmicky I [TS]

00:40:24   mean it's a hell of a screen it's a hell [TS]

00:40:26   of a screen presence but i'm always [TS]

00:40:27   going to prefer Rosalind Russell to [TS]

00:40:29   Katharine Hepburn in terms of grand old [TS]

00:40:31   downs and but i have to say that I can't [TS]

00:40:34   see Roz Russell doing this one and [TS]

00:40:36   there's a point where cats were on [TS]

00:40:38   Elinor's fondly recalling when she went [TS]

00:40:41   on the Crusades because she was a huge [TS]

00:40:42   backup the Second Crusade and she went [TS]

00:40:44   out and it's kind of a big deal but I'm [TS]

00:40:45   and the line is I even made pour lui her [TS]

00:40:48   first husband King of France Louie take [TS]

00:40:51   me on crusade how's that for blast to be [TS]

00:40:53   addressed my maids Amazons and rode bare [TS]

00:40:55   breasted halfway to Damascus Louie had a [TS]

00:40:57   seizure and I damn near died of wind [TS]

00:40:59   burn but the troops were dazzled equinix [TS]

00:41:01   just circle maybe it's in the every line [TS]

00:41:04   is this beautiful setup and the [TS]

00:41:05   knockdown and setup and the knockdown um [TS]

00:41:07   and and the music is fantastic [TS]

00:41:11   I best of all it's not a ren fair or in [TS]

00:41:14   SC a type of oh the nobility is clean [TS]

00:41:17   and and the sets are gorgeous and rumors [TS]

00:41:20   gowns I it's just it's grainy the only [TS]

00:41:23   way you can tell Henry that the king is [TS]

00:41:24   you can be bothered to put on a circle [TS]

00:41:26   and he's just as grainy and and shovels [TS]

00:41:28   everybody else there are dogs sleeping [TS]

00:41:30   under the table people are sleeping on [TS]

00:41:32   piles of strong the Florence is very [TS]

00:41:33   true to life it to what it was and I [TS]

00:41:36   think that had something to it as well [TS]

00:41:37   it's again if you are going if you're [TS]

00:41:40   going home for the holidays only with [TS]

00:41:41   the greatest of reluctance or you are [TS]

00:41:43   stealing yourself for some inevitable [TS]

00:41:44   relative showing up [TS]

00:41:46   watch this movie ahead of time because [TS]

00:41:47   you will be smirking to yourself the [TS]

00:41:49   rest of the holiday season and this is a [TS]

00:41:51   screenplay is James golden who's the the [TS]

00:41:55   brother of william goldman yeah there's [TS]

00:41:58   there's a remake they did a couple years [TS]

00:41:59   ago the BBC did were i believe it's the [TS]

00:42:01   BBC it's patrick stewart as Henry the [TS]

00:42:04   second and Glenn Close is Eleanor I [TS]

00:42:07   haven't worked out for the DVD yet and [TS]

00:42:09   I'd love to see Patrick Stewart I'm just [TS]

00:42:11   not not sure I want to see Glenn Close [TS]

00:42:13   that makes sense but maybe youtube can [TS]

00:42:16   do a mashup where it's patrick stewart [TS]

00:42:18   and Katharine Hepburn that sound again [TS]

00:42:20   gauge but it's well worth i'm not i'm [TS]

00:42:23   not sure returning classic movies is [TS]

00:42:24   going to show it during the holiday [TS]

00:42:26   season but they usually show it during [TS]

00:42:28   their third 31 days of Oscar so keep an [TS]

00:42:32   eye out for items for 24 hours and just [TS]

00:42:34   dip in dependent value Y is y is y is [TS]

00:42:38   Jeffrey advocating mutiny what is going [TS]

00:42:40   on why are they had a Chinese restaurant [TS]

00:42:42   knows dance move i have never seen this [TS]

00:42:44   movie I I am blown away i need to see [TS]

00:42:47   this i is forever different fantastic [TS]

00:42:50   never T the chew the scenery they spit [TS]

00:42:53   it out they create new scenery to shoe [TS]

00:42:55   and spin it again and it's historically [TS]

00:42:57   barely accurate peter o'toole is [TS]

00:43:00   fantastic because he makes you what he [TS]

00:43:02   make he makes you understand than half [TS]

00:43:03   of being a king is convincing other [TS]

00:43:05   people that your kingly and then that's [TS]

00:43:08   in the other actors who are stuck with [TS]

00:43:10   planning & Sons actually do a fantastic [TS]

00:43:11   job of explaining how the Plantagenet [TS]

00:43:14   dynasty was kind of do before it started [TS]

00:43:15   because that you know Henry the second [TS]

00:43:17   was kind of the peak of it was all [TS]

00:43:18   downhill after that even though Richard [TS]

00:43:19   was technically the lion-hearted he [TS]

00:43:21   bankrupted England and you know John [TS]

00:43:24   prompted the Magna Carta it's come for [TS]

00:43:27   the dialogue stay for the acting I just [TS]

00:43:29   really this is one of my desert island [TS]

00:43:31   movies as well as one of my Christmas [TS]

00:43:33   favorites so I really love this movie [TS]

00:43:35   you handing back on his heels like Lou [TS]

00:43:38   visualize that's a good sign to know [TS]

00:43:41   that they had it so I had a sort of war [TS]

00:43:43   myself to say Andy shut up because this [TS]

00:43:45   is sort of movie you can spend 30 [TS]

00:43:47   minutes talking about another let's say [TS]

00:43:48   we get a word in edgewise is it is an [TS]

00:43:51   intensely solid choice it is also it is [TS]

00:43:54   also on that list of movies where it's [TS]

00:43:56   like okay well i only get it at that's [TS]

00:43:58   great i put in a lot of work together to [TS]

00:44:00   finish this thing on time and got maybe [TS]

00:44:02   another 45 minutes worth of work but [TS]

00:44:04   they're not expecting it till noon and [TS]

00:44:06   that's two or three hours away [TS]

00:44:07   I'm good I'll definitely make this the [TS]

00:44:09   consensus on time like all [TS]

00:44:11   wrap this movies on this my husband and [TS]

00:44:14   I can I know I can't do anything but [TS]

00:44:16   watch this [TS]

00:44:17   oh damn it will act of god what I do [TS]

00:44:20   it's America know and it's just there's [TS]

00:44:22   it's such a good movie [TS]

00:44:23   oh yeah maybe it really it really [TS]

00:44:25   underscores absolutely like why Peter [TS]

00:44:28   O'Toole is one of the greatest actors [TS]

00:44:30   that that the passing of the years I've [TS]

00:44:32   ever you get that had been working the [TS]

00:44:33   past 50 years because you see him when [TS]

00:44:36   he's on you see like a Richard Harrison [TS]

00:44:38   peter o'toole the other actors like when [TS]

00:44:40   they are mostly down to playing you know [TS]

00:44:44   Richard Harris or peter o'toole exactly [TS]

00:44:46   that you have to see you see him on the [TS]

00:44:47   chalk shows and they have these great [TS]

00:44:49   stories about being drunk actors in [TS]

00:44:51   their early twenties and they're great [TS]

00:44:52   stories but you forget that these are [TS]

00:44:54   these people who were on some sort of [TS]

00:44:56   reality show and that's how the name is [TS]

00:44:57   out there they got there they became [TS]

00:44:59   famous actors after 15 years of nothing [TS]

00:45:02   but great role after great role after [TS]

00:45:05   great role and this my I think I i think [TS]

00:45:08   that this is only my second favorite [TS]

00:45:10   peter o'toole performance beyond the [TS]

00:45:12   only second only to his role in the [TS]

00:45:14   stuntman because if there is ever a [TS]

00:45:17   stuntman te plaĆ®t plays he plays as [TS]

00:45:20   that crazy director exactly please King [TS]

00:45:23   in in that movie he plays God in this [TS]

00:45:26   one because he plays a direct a director [TS]

00:45:28   who like within this for this realm is [TS]

00:45:30   like any if I want something to happen [TS]

00:45:32   it happens because I wanted it to happen [TS]

00:45:34   if you're on my set I control and really [TS]

00:45:37   completely you don't know whether he's [TS]

00:45:39   insane or a genius but that is the [TS]

00:45:41   that's the only other roller can say oh [TS]

00:45:43   it's such a hard choice to make between [TS]

00:45:45   those do anyway you can practically see [TS]

00:45:47   Anthony Hopkins picking up tips and his [TS]

00:45:49   scenes quickly and Hawkins has a good [TS]

00:45:52   seem to when to let you have a family [TS]

00:45:56   dynamics put up there are five minute [TS]

00:45:59   there are six main characters Alice the [TS]

00:46:00   mistress Henry and Eleanor the [TS]

00:46:02   squabbling monarch / parents and then [TS]

00:46:04   the three sons Richard Jeffrey the [TS]

00:46:06   conniving little Sun and then John [TS]

00:46:08   two-out-of-three these guys become kings [TS]

00:46:10   the way the way the loyalty split up is [TS]

00:46:13   Richard back to his mother when she [TS]

00:46:15   tried to overthrow Henry and put their [TS]

00:46:17   now deceased brother and put their now [TS]

00:46:19   deceased son Henry on the throne [TS]

00:46:21   there's a lot of Henry's and John back [TS]

00:46:23   his father and Jeffrey plays [TS]

00:46:25   both sides against the middle and [TS]

00:46:26   actually tries to make an end around and [TS]

00:46:28   run around everybody but there's there's [TS]

00:46:31   a scene where Henry is wondering why [TS]

00:46:32   Richard never warmed to him and and why [TS]

00:46:35   there's this huge disconnect and anthony [TS]

00:46:37   hopkins you could have called you could [TS]

00:46:39   have called anytime and i would have [TS]

00:46:41   come to your side and you never once [TS]

00:46:42   looked at me and I've seen this movie [TS]

00:46:45   about I'd say 1015 times and everytime i [TS]

00:46:49   see that seen it still breaks my heart [TS]

00:46:50   and that's because it feels fresh every [TS]

00:46:52   time that it's it's good acting [TS]

00:46:54   it's it's not hackneyed it's not cliche [TS]

00:46:56   it's not one of those things where you [TS]

00:46:59   know what's coming you can practically [TS]

00:47:00   mouth the dialogue it's just it's very [TS]

00:47:01   fresh organic moment and again the [TS]

00:47:04   writing a snap-in brilliant there is not [TS]

00:47:06   a bad performance of a lot the [TS]

00:47:09   historical details really throw you and [TS]

00:47:11   22 of the mindset we understand how it [TS]

00:47:15   can be that parents and children are [TS]

00:47:16   actively scheming to kill each other [TS]

00:47:19   I'm just ended set of Christmas so it's [TS]

00:47:21   best we can but it really basically the [TS]

00:47:25   same plot as Black Christmas so but most [TS]

00:47:27   most film spring spring from Black [TS]

00:47:29   Christmas there are no virgins to be [TS]

00:47:31   killed in this film so you know everyone [TS]

00:47:32   loves her a Jason confused about [TS]

00:47:35   something I think there's still one [TS]

00:47:37   package left to open tonight [TS]

00:47:39   contact it's left to open yes that's [TS]

00:47:41   right we could save for the next night [TS]

00:47:43   of Hanukkah is it isn't alone offers a [TS]

00:47:45   full of burning crap or is it full of [TS]

00:47:47   something delightful it is full of [TS]

00:47:49   delightfully burning crap i have my my [TS]

00:47:53   selections and first I'm going to say [TS]

00:47:54   that that the guy i had to choose [TS]

00:47:56   between two episodes of animated TV [TS]

00:48:00   series that aired on fox [TS]

00:48:01   so it was it was a close one because I [TS]

00:48:04   dearly love and perhaps will induct a [TS]

00:48:06   future holiday movie vault the episode [TS]

00:48:10   of futurama called xmas story where in [TS]

00:48:13   where in Santa is a murderous robot that [TS]

00:48:16   duh strikes fear into the population of [TS]

00:48:19   Earth as he tries to kill everybody [TS]

00:48:20   voice of John Goodman which I believe [TS]

00:48:23   they actually didn't air originally [TS]

00:48:27   because they were afraid of how awful i [TS]

00:48:29   think i confirm this with david cohen [TS]

00:48:31   sorry glinting when I when the [TS]

00:48:33   mysterious came on and [TS]

00:48:35   it was they had a delayed i think a year [TS]

00:48:37   because it was so horrifying and [TS]

00:48:39   terrifying to the studio executives and [TS]

00:48:41   only they could bring themselves to air [TS]

00:48:42   it but by the next year they'd already [TS]

00:48:43   destroyed the show viewership enough the [TS]

00:48:46   studio was willing to bet that was going [TS]

00:48:48   to show it because i didn't think i was [TS]

00:48:49   watching it because Cassandra is like [TS]

00:48:51   weapons and he tries to kill everybody [TS]

00:48:53   that's a and and uh not as good as Black [TS]

00:48:55   Christmas it's it's good and that's how [TS]

00:48:58   they celebrate xmas in the year 3000 [TS]

00:49:01   this is they they honor the murderous [TS]

00:49:03   Santa and the the episode here's a [TS]

00:49:05   little trivia bit the episode begins [TS]

00:49:07   with the super title based on a true [TS]

00:49:10   story [TS]

00:49:11   who why but no i'm not i'm not actually [TS]

00:49:15   gonna gonna pick that one instead i'm [TS]

00:49:16   going to pick an episode of the Fox [TS]

00:49:18   animated series the tick called the [TS]

00:49:23   tickle of Santa but it was a saturday [TS]

00:49:26   morning cartoon show on Fox before it [TS]

00:49:28   became a brief and brilliant light [TS]

00:49:32   action comedy on Fox and primetime and [TS]

00:49:35   the animation is crude but the writing [TS]

00:49:38   is incredibly sharp the writing is a [TS]

00:49:39   sharp as the animation is crude and Fox [TS]

00:49:43   actually aired this episode in primetime [TS]

00:49:44   as a kind of a Christmas special and [TS]

00:49:48   it's great it's really clever the idea [TS]

00:49:51   is there's a department store addresses [TS]

00:49:53   a department store Santa and he he he's [TS]

00:49:56   a criminal and he gets accidentally [TS]

00:49:58   electrocuted but rather than dying he he [TS]

00:50:01   has this superpower where multiple [TS]

00:50:04   versions amount of himself created and [TS]

00:50:06   this is created a super villain known as [TS]

00:50:08   multiple Santa multiple Santa decides to [TS]

00:50:11   go of it ultimately to the city dam [TS]

00:50:13   which is hydroelectric power and he's [TS]

00:50:16   going to electrocute himself and create [TS]

00:50:18   an army of millions of multiple Santa's [TS]

00:50:20   each of whom basically just says 00 over [TS]

00:50:25   and over again as they swarmed the city [TS]

00:50:27   creating chaos and and just horrible [TS]

00:50:31   crimes that happen [TS]

00:50:32   so that's that's the that's your [TS]

00:50:34   superhero plot and it has to be thwarted [TS]

00:50:35   by the tech in his sidekick arthur but [TS]

00:50:38   maybe the best thing about it is the [TS]

00:50:40   tech is this character who is a who is [TS]

00:50:42   very innocent and and we learn early on [TS]

00:50:45   in this in this episode that he believes [TS]

00:50:47   in Santa completely you [TS]

00:50:48   is he he's a believer in sand and this [TS]

00:50:50   episode walks a line because it's the [TS]

00:50:51   children's cartoon that adults watched [TS]

00:50:56   include me but it is it was on [TS]

00:50:58   originally in you know the daytime it [TS]

00:51:01   and and so it never takes a position on [TS]

00:51:04   Santa being real or not but the tick [TS]

00:51:06   does the tick believes that's that Santa [TS]

00:51:08   is real and Arthur doesn't and what ends [TS]

00:51:11   up happening is because he's upset that [TS]

00:51:14   the multiple Santa because he thinks [TS]

00:51:15   it's anna turns out it's not Santa [TS]

00:51:18   however Israel and in fact Santa is a [TS]

00:51:21   almost a he's surrounded by Secret [TS]

00:51:25   Service like group of elves and big red [TS]

00:51:29   is on the rooftop big red is coming down [TS]

00:51:31   the stairs now so so big red santa the [TS]

00:51:35   real Santa decides to meet with the [TS]

00:51:36   ticket Arthur and they see his whole [TS]

00:51:38   security contingent which is elves [TS]

00:51:40   literally Secret Service agent elves [TS]

00:51:42   they've got dark glasses and little ear [TS]

00:51:43   pieces and the tip comes and briefs them [TS]

00:51:46   about about how it gives him a pep talk [TS]

00:51:48   and says you got to take care of [TS]

00:51:49   multiple Santa and as he's doing this he [TS]

00:51:51   occasionally just hands presence to them [TS]

00:51:53   just like it here have this and [TS]

00:51:56   communities talk because that's that's [TS]

00:51:59   it Santa Claus right so is taken streets [TS]

00:52:01   like okay Santa Israel and then they [TS]

00:52:03   have to go and they they have to stop [TS]

00:52:06   the multiple Santa and and you know it [TS]

00:52:08   was ridiculous and just I think that the [TS]

00:52:10   the climax at the city damn where [TS]

00:52:13   they've got the hydroelectric plant and [TS]

00:52:15   any and of course it all works out and [TS]

00:52:17   and Santa thanks them for their service [TS]

00:52:19   and all that but i love it because it's [TS]

00:52:21   it's a it's funny it's a it's got a nice [TS]

00:52:25   take not quite as murderous as the xmas [TS]

00:52:27   santa from futurama but still it's funny [TS]

00:52:30   the bad guy is not just one Santa but [TS]

00:52:32   many many Santas and who they're up to [TS]

00:52:35   no good and then the real Santa has to [TS]

00:52:37   come and and give the assignment and [TS]

00:52:40   he's treated with a sort of proper [TS]

00:52:41   reference so it's a it's a it's a gym [TS]

00:52:44   and I think it's on [TS]

00:52:45   I don't know if it's on streaming but i [TS]

00:52:46   know that the tick a season two I [TS]

00:52:49   believe is on DVD of the animated series [TS]

00:52:51   is all on DVD now and i love it and it's [TS]

00:52:53   a great series but the tickle of Santa [TS]

00:52:55   great episode so I want to toss it in [TS]

00:52:58   the vault original comic books i read [TS]

00:53:00   the watch [TS]

00:53:01   the original cartoon series one area and [TS]

00:53:03   reruns and I even mildly enjoyed the [TS]

00:53:06   crazy live-action series our little [TS]

00:53:09   which I love because the Creator has [TS]

00:53:11   been was last name is lieutenant yeah [TS]

00:53:13   but his thing is you know we were [TS]

00:53:15   negotiating for the cartoon my lawyer [TS]

00:53:17   said just keep something back he was [TS]

00:53:19   going to keep something back so we [TS]

00:53:20   decided to keep back the live-action [TS]

00:53:22   rights because no one's ever gonna make [TS]

00:53:24   a lot of action version of this while [TS]

00:53:27   Ben Edlund who went on to work on Angel [TS]

00:53:28   and firefly believe and also [TS]

00:53:30   supernatural well very clear that the [TS]

00:53:34   tickets a great character and that is a [TS]

00:53:35   great episode [TS]

00:53:36   don't let don't let the cheap cheap [TS]

00:53:38   animation fool you that the three [TS]

00:53:40   seasons of the animated tick and the [TS]

00:53:42   live-action 1r are great but being [TS]

00:53:45   married holiday everyone was trying to [TS]

00:53:46   think what TV episodes have had TV shows [TS]

00:53:48   with Christmas episodes have I really [TS]

00:53:50   liked my thought about I thought about [TS]

00:53:52   it for a while i was thinking about [TS]

00:53:53   dramas and very special Christmas [TS]

00:53:55   episodes and also kind of modeling [TS]

00:53:57   christmas episode of mash and things [TS]

00:53:59   like that and suddenly I was like oh you [TS]

00:54:01   know what it's the tick I i love outside [TS]

00:54:03   of the Charlie Brown Christmas that [TS]

00:54:04   would be the next place i would go for a [TS]

00:54:06   tad animated Christmas think so strongly [TS]

00:54:09   Caldwell related tick trivia which is [TS]

00:54:12   that Josh believe it was originally [TS]

00:54:13   supposed to be our threw them off and [TS]

00:54:15   live-action version of the show but they [TS]

00:54:17   wouldn't release them from sports night [TS]

00:54:18   even though the show had been canceled [TS]

00:54:20   ah shameful i know it only last about [TS]

00:54:23   seven episodes 4 episodes a lot of [TS]

00:54:25   Andrews that's also on DVD i have those [TS]

00:54:26   that's great that's great great [TS]

00:54:29   yeah and created by created in in my [TS]

00:54:31   locale was published by New England [TS]

00:54:33   comics yes my comic book store growing [TS]

00:54:35   up [TS]

00:54:36   me too yeah they have a waiver I guess [TS]

00:54:39   the recoloring all the old dishes of the [TS]

00:54:40   original theory they're gonna we're [TS]

00:54:42   gonna sell the hell out of those 12 [TS]

00:54:43   issues whatever I mean there are only [TS]

00:54:45   yet 12 or 13 I had one once and if you [TS]

00:54:48   have to wear is though there's a [TS]

00:54:49   collection I mean I did those issues are [TS]

00:54:52   available in many forms because you know [TS]

00:54:54   comics can keep making money on the [TS]

00:54:56   night [TS]

00:54:56   it's like a large building i have my [TS]

00:54:58   flaming carrot comics but i do not have [TS]

00:55:00   takes oh yeah i wish' i wish the tix [TS]

00:55:04   rights were kind of resolved better [TS]

00:55:08   because that would be nice to see see [TS]

00:55:10   more more stuff than there is in in high [TS]

00:55:12   school my friend [TS]

00:55:14   and occasionally comfortable contributor [TS]

00:55:16   Jason tachi and I designed a tick [TS]

00:55:19   role-playing game [TS]

00:55:20   wow that was hilarious like basically [TS]

00:55:23   just makes used to like screw around for [TS]

00:55:24   a couple hours on the computer and come [TS]

00:55:26   up with ridiculous rules for a game i [TS]

00:55:28   think it had skills including like [TS]

00:55:29   doorknob operation was a skill in that [TS]

00:55:32   came and many other references to the [TS]

00:55:35   series 19 vulnerability that kind of [TS]

00:55:37   stuff I so I i should say yes and he's [TS]

00:55:40   nine vulnerable not completely dry and I [TS]

00:55:42   invulnerable up one thing that I'm not [TS]

00:55:46   not Christmas but Thanksgiving at my [TS]

00:55:49   notice [TS]

00:55:50   Michael Gartenberg who is our our pal [TS]

00:55:52   and was on the stretcher to episode [TS]

00:55:54   every year watches the to Thanksgiving [TS]

00:55:58   episode of the west wing on thanksgiving [TS]

00:56:00   and i actually had a little bit of time [TS]

00:56:02   while I was preparing a Thanksgiving [TS]

00:56:04   dinner and I watched by watching one of [TS]

00:56:07   the lobby [TS]

00:56:08   I i well Indians in the lobby and uh [TS]

00:56:10   what's the other one called well no no [TS]

00:56:14   no Thomas one it's the one with the [TS]

00:56:16   Chinese immigrants who are Christians [TS]

00:56:19   and therefore triple-a Shiva left yeah [TS]

00:56:21   yeah [TS]

00:56:21   excellent you know those are pretty good [TS]

00:56:22   i have my criticisms of especially later [TS]

00:56:25   days west wing Sorkin but those are [TS]

00:56:28   pretty good too but just to throw them [TS]

00:56:30   out there as some nice holiday episode [TS]

00:56:32   for holidays that aren't in december [TS]

00:56:34   because not all holidays are in december [TS]

00:56:37   as the holiday and taught us along with [TS]

00:56:40   the lesson about horrible radar look [TS]

00:56:43   thanks go ahead there's a darker episode [TS]

00:56:46   that i didn't expect no one expects the [TS]

00:56:51   spanish inquisition Christmas itself but [TS]

00:56:53   as a Jew I don't really have much [TS]

00:56:54   experience with this Christmas thing [TS]

00:56:56   that gets me you know there are there [TS]

00:56:57   any good Hanukkah anything's I don't [TS]

00:56:59   think that you are you know you're [TS]

00:57:01   alienating the Hebrew ever actually the [TS]

00:57:04   hebrew hammer is an excellently I will I [TS]

00:57:06   will seriously lyerly is the co-star no [TS]

00:57:09   no it's judy greer one match your career [TS]

00:57:11   planning a better to degrade and Adam [TS]

00:57:14   Goldstein and it's an animal is his [TS]

00:57:16   hammer is MC Hammer in that know if [TS]

00:57:19   you're not and you're not familiar with [TS]

00:57:20   the overhand no no no [TS]

00:57:22   so it is basically the interval another [TS]

00:57:23   black white asian films [TS]

00:57:26   but about cruising with whole arias and [TS]

00:57:28   awesome would it be safe for college [TS]

00:57:30   exploitations it is in fact an often [TS]

00:57:32   called a disappointing isn't very funny [TS]

00:57:34   but yes he's kinda got an afro sort of [TS]

00:57:36   pimped out but he's got superpowers this [TS]

00:57:38   great bit where he engineer fighting [TS]

00:57:40   andy dick was santa claus's son who's [TS]

00:57:43   killed Santa class i think and wants to [TS]

00:57:45   take over all holidays and they're [TS]

00:57:47   fighting away and then the sun goes down [TS]

00:57:49   there like oh jus powers fading is the [TS]

00:57:51   Sabbath in the potty training other [TS]

00:57:53   powers sometimes it's a really i don't i [TS]

00:57:55   saw it in the theater [TS]

00:57:56   believe it or not are you standing there [TS]

00:57:59   was fantastic is a great movie is on [TS]

00:58:01   netflix streaming you can get their [TS]

00:58:02   Mario Van Peebles is actually in this [TS]

00:58:04   movie to Peter Coyote it's a crazy crazy [TS]

00:58:07   film melvin van peebles in this movie [TS]

00:58:10   well sure i highly highly recommended [TS]

00:58:12   isn't always the best Hanukkah related [TS]

00:58:14   movie one setting aside eight crazy [TS]

00:58:16   nights I mean it isn't the LC your [TS]

00:58:19   there's one other isn't there now we [TS]

00:58:21   don't we don't admit that exists so uh [TS]

00:58:22   what one of these days what we need to [TS]

00:58:25   do is get get even more negative and [TS]

00:58:26   talk about the things that we would like [TS]

00:58:27   to put a holiday movie purgatory but [TS]

00:58:30   that would probably be another podcast [TS]

00:58:31   the holiday movie incinerator bank and [TS]

00:58:35   pass but not now [TS]

00:58:37   and Andy besides that Sandy's gig right [TS]

00:58:39   rankin/bass isn't that bad and he's the [TS]

00:58:41   guy who brings you down with your [TS]

00:58:43   beloved with your beloved na old things [TS]

00:58:45   that was very emissary of God on this [TS]

00:58:48   plane I don't find the standards for [TS]

00:58:50   sanity for the rest yeah that's how it [TS]

00:58:52   is you have a problem with that take it [TS]

00:58:53   up with God not with me [TS]

00:58:55   okay well with that hear the sound [TS]

00:58:58   effects that you candy is requesting [TS]

00:59:00   that I'm not going to put it of the [TS]

00:59:01   vault door is being closed and slam shot [TS]

00:59:04   for another year [TS]

00:59:07   this has been this has been great this [TS]

00:59:09   was a lot of fun and I got some more [TS]

00:59:11   movies that i need to go watch including [TS]

00:59:13   the line and winter from Lisa that's a [TS]

00:59:14   good one that I had not even double [TS]

00:59:17   features with the hebrew hammer very [TS]

00:59:18   well that's good that's good at holiday [TS]

00:59:21   inn but only the 1si it's like chocolate [TS]

00:59:23   pretzels you wouldn't think about it i [TS]

00:59:25   will soon as you take them together wow [TS]

00:59:27   yeah all right so this is great i want [TS]

00:59:29   to thank everybody for coming [TS]

00:59:31   Lisa thanks for being here alright [TS]

00:59:33   thanks guys by inflation thank you for [TS]

00:59:35   bringing your selection and I thank you [TS]

00:59:37   for tolerating me [TS]

00:59:38   yes no I appreciate [TS]

00:59:40   for another year thank you yes for [TS]

00:59:41   another year indian taco thank you very [TS]

00:59:44   much [TS]

00:59:44   you've been very good this year jason i [TS]

00:59:46   hope you get the paddle ball with you [TS]

00:59:49   test group us for me too me too it's the [TS]

00:59:52   top of my list right at the top [TS]

00:59:55   damn more'n thanks for being here I'm [TS]

00:59:58   gonna shoot somebody I up [TS]

00:59:58   gonna shoot somebody I up [TS]

01:00:00   can't say who fouled out of the mixed [TS]

01:00:04   and is another dark turn in this episode [TS]

01:00:07   and Steve let's thank you [TS]

01:00:09   it has been a pleasure dragging your [TS]

01:00:11   otherwise congenial holiday podcast into [TS]

01:00:13   the horror movie ghetto it's great i [TS]

01:00:15   expect nothing less of you with a [TS]

01:00:18   witness that I i hear noises on the [TS]

01:00:20   rooftop kids I think it's john siracusa [TS]

01:00:23   who's come to bring commentary to go to [TS]

01:00:26   bed because if he sees you awake [TS]

01:00:28   he's not going to visit so he'll visit [TS]

01:00:30   and i'll tell you give you an itemized [TS]

01:00:33   list of why you should be asleep but yes [TS]

01:00:37   and on that note I would like to thank [TS]

01:00:38   everybody for listening to this episode [TS]

01:00:40   of the incomparable have her have a [TS]

01:00:42   happy holiday everybody right right yeah [TS]

01:00:45   happy holidays or or if you prefer an [TS]

01:00:48   unhappy holiday some of our movies will [TS]

01:00:50   serve that to do [TS]

01:00:52   dudas see you next time [TS]

01:01:01   dr. collected the fact that this is the [TS]

01:01:05   most special Christmas [TS]