0:00:03the incomparable number 309 july 2016
0:00:12welcome back everybody to the
0:00:14uncomfortable it's time for one of our
0:00:15ill-conceived and ridiculous draft
0:00:18episodes l conceived not by my panelists
0:00:21who i'm sure has been a lot of time
0:00:22thinking about this but certainly by me
0:00:24i will be just as inconsistent and
0:00:27arbitrary as always as the judge of who
0:00:30is able to draft what what we're
0:00:33drafting in this episode spaceships
0:00:35that's it that's all that I've told our
0:00:36panelists were drafting spaceships to
0:00:38assume i guess we would assume to to
0:00:41build a fleet an armada uh collection
0:00:44I don't even know what the outcome of
0:00:46this is other than to get all the best
0:00:47spaceships for themselves
0:00:49join me to draft spaceships are the
0:00:53following people Joe rosenstiel hello
0:00:56hello John siracusa hi
0:00:58this can only end badly Jason why I
0:01:00weights start not certain that hot
0:01:02actually so we'll see how bad it gets
0:01:05from here also scott multi-class got for
0:01:09my first pick i take Jefferson Starship
0:01:11all of them there's many questions about
0:01:13whether you take can take Jefferson
0:01:14Starship also the band starship which is
0:01:16an evolution Jefferson story about the
0:01:17same starship I don't know when we may
0:01:19find out tonight
0:01:21also I don't think there's a dance
0:01:22called the starship thank goodness
0:01:25not yet with with the fourth pic you
0:01:26just heard her
0:01:28Erica and sign is here hello spaceship
0:01:30spaceship spaceship spaceship to you too
0:01:33Monty Ashley I Monty hi Jason and chips
0:01:36on earth you're gonna take all of mine i
0:01:38know it it's probably the case that's
0:01:40how drafts work and brian hamilton I've
0:01:43got one job in the spaceship
0:01:44it's a dumb job i'm gonna do oh you win
0:01:47the quote ground and the order in which
0:01:49i introduced our panelist is in fact the
0:01:52order in which we will draft Joe
0:01:54rosenstiel you yourself got the first
0:01:58pick in the draft so tell us what
0:02:01spaceship would you like to draft and
0:02:04why did you choose that spaceship well i
0:02:06think that one of the things that's
0:02:08probably going to come up at least as we
0:02:10continue on past myself it will be a
0:02:12star trek and the some of the ships that
0:02:14are there and
0:02:15there are a number of ships that have
0:02:16been that the feature of many Star Trek
0:02:19enterprises and and other various metals
0:02:23and so there's one that I want to pick
0:02:25for this draft where I was like you know
0:02:28it kind of want to live on a ship and
0:02:29what's the ship that I really would like
0:02:31to exist on where i would feel
0:02:34comfortable most of the time and I think
0:02:35that would have to be the ncc 1701 d
0:02:38galaxy-class Enterprise from Star Trek
0:02:40The Next Generation so it's kind of it's
0:02:42sort of creature comforts then that are
0:02:44driving you to the the enterprise-d
0:02:46because it's got like wood accents plush
0:02:49carpeting lots of holiday
0:02:51nothing says brave space explorer like a
0:02:53hotel in space no ten-forward
0:02:55replicators you're all set a barber
0:02:59it's true mr. Mott i hope that helped
0:03:01the barber doesn't come with the ship
0:03:02because I i would just take a pass on
0:03:04mr. Mott how dare you come here okay and
0:03:07being in that lighting for the rest of
0:03:08your life is harsh video lighting it's
0:03:12kind of like every room looks the same
0:03:14and it's really not flatter fluorescent
0:03:17it'sit's pretty ambient and diffuse I'll
0:03:20grant you that it'sit's you know but if
0:03:22you get tired of it you can just tell
0:03:24the computer to turn down the lighting
0:03:25and you can go into the holodeck and you
0:03:27can be somewhere else if you want to so
0:03:29I'm uncomfortable with that are you
0:03:32worried at all about the constant
0:03:33psychopaths and murderers that the
0:03:35holodeck crisp it out i was thinking
0:03:37about that but there's it's going to
0:03:41probably be a couple other ships that
0:03:43other people are going to come across
0:03:44and draft in these rounds where it's
0:03:46going to be pretty dangerous as well
0:03:48because it turns out that sci-fi
0:03:50storytelling usually involve some sort
0:03:52of drama and action and and jeopardy so
0:03:54you got you got you got to pick
0:03:56something and i would i would rather go
0:03:59with this one because at least you got
0:04:00some more comfortable environment than
0:04:03then a few of the other enterprises you
0:04:05know we encounter at Farpoint the
0:04:07holodeck is just like a creek and a like
0:04:10a forest and that's perfectly safe until
0:04:13data says computer create a frog that I
0:04:16can't even defeat and then that is that
0:04:19the Frog wins and that's the nog l7 of
0:04:22the Frog yeah always that disk you come
0:04:24with the ship
0:04:25no no like you you don't want
0:04:28him but like you realize you've been
0:04:30you've been sold a bill of goods here
0:04:31and Q's on board it's possible
0:04:34probably not sujini which is cute need
0:04:37with a starship apparently a lot of
0:04:39people keep showing up
0:04:40I've been on the ship with you you know
0:04:41sorry that's some wedding idea they're
0:04:43going was on that ship to John siracusa
0:04:48it's time for your first round pick of
0:04:50spaceships
0:04:51well you know I feel lucky I feel lucky
0:04:54that I'm so early in the draft order and
0:04:56with such good luck i have to pick the
0:04:58appropriate ship based on my good luck
0:05:00if you were to see this ship
0:05:03you may find yourself thinking what a
0:05:05piece of junk mmm compression maybe this
0:05:08one is garbage
0:05:09mmm saw me arrive in the ship you say
0:05:11you came here and that thing you're
0:05:13braver than I thought
0:05:14fast ship you've never heard of the
0:05:16Millennium Falcon the ship that made the
0:05:18Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs it's
0:05:20outrun Imperial starships not the local
0:05:22bulk cruisers mind you are talking about
0:05:23the big Corellian ships now she may not
0:05:26look like much but she's got it where it
0:05:27counts kid the Millennium Falcon is my
0:05:30number one pick and i can't believe it
0:05:32wasn't already chosen two big ones are
0:05:36already chosen in the first two rounds
0:05:38so where the hell do we go from here
0:05:39great now i will add by the way the
0:05:41whole thing of like Oh sci-fi stories
0:05:43involve danger and you're always in
0:05:44danger in this ship the blame Falcon
0:05:46danger doesn't seek it out it escapes
0:05:48danger it is forever fleeing from danger
0:05:50is fleeing from Star Destroyers is
0:05:52fleeing from the mouth of a giant
0:05:53puppets in an asteroid it's got a nice
0:05:56game room where you can battle a little
0:05:58floaty ball and play some weird space
0:06:01chest thing I it it survives
0:06:03miraculously when you think you know it
0:06:05should have been blown up but it really
0:06:07just got his radar just knocked off and
0:06:08it comes out of the flames triumphantly
0:06:09the morning Malcolm is a survivor
0:06:11well I'll give you that you know it it
0:06:14gets out of danger a lot especially as
0:06:18long as the hyperdrives working because
0:06:20what is not working still survives it's
0:06:23not going to blow up all the time like
0:06:24the enterprise is Little River
0:06:25hyperdrives not working
0:06:27it can make it to another star system
0:06:28because an asteroid belt to pass data
0:06:32system it so every database now you've
0:06:35got it backwards
0:06:36yeah look at that foolish
0:06:39ok I i have to say that when I chose
0:06:43when I said John it's your pick i just
0:06:44started typing Millennium Falcon in my
0:06:47spreadsheet possible and I don't
0:06:49understand how it wasn't chosen first
0:06:51like I'm not the enterprise is great the
0:06:53enterprise-d is great you know like good
0:06:55ship i'm not going to say anything bad
0:06:56by the enterprise except in general tend
0:06:58to get blown up a lot but come on the
0:07:01Millennium Falcon come on people you
0:07:02need hundreds of people to flight
0:07:04enterprise DUI seems like you just need
0:07:06those people in the room leaning back
0:07:07and forth and then I can't really just
0:07:08walking down the hallways with
0:07:09clipboards everyone else is there for
0:07:11ballast it has to be a certain way it's
0:07:14a union thing like the unions have
0:07:15negotiated how many people have to be on
0:07:17the other person flies itself but you
0:07:19know we gotta give the human something
0:07:21to do and also we have to give mr. Mott
0:07:22the barber something to do Scott I
0:07:24started ship has already been chosen but
0:07:26you make one if you like there are many
0:07:28to choose from it's true now my question
0:07:30is is its reality versions of the same
0:07:34ship that had already taken
0:07:36are these still because my choice if
0:07:40that is a allowable is from the series
0:07:45finale of Star Trek The Next Generation
0:07:47the future Enterprise Captain by Admiral
0:07:51Riker that has a third nacelle and a
0:07:54cloaking device and is far superior in
0:07:57every respect to the one that Joe picked
0:08:00learned in a Cell i have to say i was i
0:08:04was going to go by if it's just a set
0:08:07redress it's not enough but the third
0:08:09cell is not just a century dress so I'm
0:08:11going to give it to you Scott
0:08:12take it take it away you get right you
0:08:15get Rikers captain so sorry about that
0:08:17yeah they made plays Admiral Riker he's
0:08:20in the day they added the the little
0:08:22cannon thing on the bottom and include
0:08:23those little wing things next to the
0:08:24bridge
0:08:25yeah for experienced any reasons they
0:08:28even let it break the horizontal plane
0:08:30in a fight scene see it's true alas that
0:08:33future was never to be because the 1701
0:08:35do was destroyed so it's from an
0:08:37alternate future timeline where the on
0:08:4071 d survive
0:08:41exactly i'm uncomfortable without nerdy
0:08:43the spaceship draft is getting yeah well
0:08:46it's true we gotta bring it back
0:08:48have you met us Saturn 5 somebody pick
0:08:51the 75 quick
0:08:52all right Scott I you didn't let me down
0:08:54there that was a nerdy star trek pic
0:08:56that's what i was looking for from you
0:08:57wow ok so Erica you're up i tell me what
0:09:02spaceship you'd like to pick huh
0:09:04I i heard cannot tell you what a feeling
0:09:06of relief I have to get to this point
0:09:07and still have the TARDIS on board
0:09:10because you're right
0:09:13the TARDIS is no longer on the board it
0:09:16is mine online
0:09:17yeah um I mean it's so awesome it not
0:09:20only travels through space it travels
0:09:22through time it is bigger on the inside
0:09:24but if you get bored traveling reaches
0:09:26of space you can go through time to even
0:09:28go through atmosphere
0:09:29sometimes you can go through a planet
0:09:31although that doesn't always work so
0:09:32well it's it's semi-sentient sometimes
0:09:35sort of so you can kind of have somebody
0:09:38to talk to you know the ship is always
0:09:40looking out for you as long as she likes
0:09:42you if she doesn't like you then you're
0:09:43probably in trouble but i'm very
0:09:45confident that the TARDIS would like me
0:09:47just fine
0:09:48so yeah i'm i'm pretty excited to be on
0:09:50the TARDIS plus it's basically
0:09:52infinitely big on the inside so i could
0:09:54have like six different bedrooms all
0:09:56decorated and completely different ways
0:09:58with you know my own library and pretty
0:10:01much whatever kind of food I wanted any
0:10:02time of the day although mostly it
0:10:04apparently comes in bar form but you
0:10:06know what it still tastes good
0:10:07alright the TARDIS is off the board fair
0:10:10enough
0:10:11I I it was inevitable this is what
0:10:13happens when I go asking around stupid
0:10:15hosting the targets the charges had
0:10:18fails at one of the most important
0:10:20things of a spaceship getting you where
0:10:22you want to go consistently yeah but I
0:10:25think that's very good steering at all
0:10:27it's another spaceship that may come up
0:10:28that has a similar problem with
0:10:30navigation but is it really a problem
0:10:31because i feel like the TARDIS is taking
0:10:34you where you need to be a lot of the
0:10:36time like this a reality ship that that
0:10:37may be named later mr. and really for me
0:10:40that the TARDIS is the destination
0:10:41itself
0:10:42wherever I ended up is just that's just
0:10:44gravy you're not concerned about getting
0:10:46lost inside your own ship like the idea
0:10:48that you own this thing
0:10:50ostensibly but you have no idea what the
0:10:52extent of the interior is and it's
0:10:54possible to get lost or entire episodes
0:10:55it seems kinda parts for example
0:10:58yeah that's just that adds to the the
0:10:59spice that the flavor little excitement
0:11:02to life the swimming pool
0:11:03it's a could be anywhere
0:11:05all right Monty what's your spaceship
0:11:09choice my first pick sensible spaceships
0:11:12have all been taken so I'm going to have
0:11:14to push the bounds a little with the
0:11:17satellite of love I'll come haha my list
0:11:21up on my list too
0:11:23it comes complete with hundreds of
0:11:26movies also robot pals
0:11:30yes made out of the parts they let you
0:11:31start and stop the music movies
0:11:33unfortunately so you lost the remote big
0:11:36deal and if the satellite of love is
0:11:40part of my fleet
0:11:41I no longer have to worry about how I
0:11:43eat or breathe so with the mundane
0:11:45worries of life behind me I can stroll
0:11:49forward into a glorious life of watching
0:11:52movies with robots and isn't that really
0:11:55the dream I saw it really is
0:11:57I've never to the geography of the ship
0:11:59on one end is where they do all the
0:12:00skits and everything and ran at
0:12:02somewhere else on the ship is a much
0:12:04much bigger area where there's the
0:12:06screen even though the two ends of the
0:12:07ship at the same size I've never
0:12:09understood that they only look the same
0:12:10size that's for shortly
0:12:12I that's right perspective it's like
0:12:14it's like The Hobbit but I mean they go
0:12:16they go through that a shoebox to get to
0:12:18the movie theater right haha yeah
0:12:19cardboard doors that go up we assume
0:12:21that's going all the way down the ship
0:12:24that may not be and there's more rooms
0:12:25than we see like each of the robots as a
0:12:27bedroom and there's a whole bunch of
0:12:28other stuff that you is in the mst3k
0:12:29movie so we know I've got a library to
0:12:32it is a giant hamster wheel you can run
0:12:33on
0:12:34yeah you you'll stay fit forever stay
0:12:38fit
0:12:39[Music]
0:12:41alright the satellite of love from mr.
0:12:44sense their 3000th is now on the board
0:12:46ship it's your turn
0:12:47while the good stuff is already gone
0:12:49what do you like sorry chap yeah yeah
0:12:51I'm very unhappy with you Erykah i was
0:12:54tempted to select the Masters TARDIS
0:12:57which is basically everything Erika said
0:12:59plus it's actually got a working
0:13:00chameleon circuit and usually goes where
0:13:02you want it to
0:13:03yeah yeah that too but the great cooking
0:13:08TV show legend Alton Brown has always
0:13:11weighed in against unit asker's things
0:13:14that can all are only good as one thing
0:13:16only
0:13:17have one purpose i do have some unit
0:13:19asker's on my list but i'm going to open
0:13:21with a spaceship that is not only a
0:13:24spaceship but it is also a robot and on
0:13:29top of that it is also one heck of a
0:13:32really big gun
0:13:34I speak of course of the Macross sdf-1
0:13:37the giant space battle fortress that is
0:13:42at the heart of the television series
0:13:45the japanese animated animated series a
0:13:48super dimension fortress macross also
0:13:51known in us as the first half off
0:13:53robotech this is a giant this is a giant
0:13:57space battleship that reconfigures
0:14:01itself to fire it's a big huge stonking
0:14:05main gun to destroy hundreds and
0:14:07hundreds of ships in a single blast
0:14:09because when they use the hyperdrive the
0:14:11first time one of the components
0:14:12disappeared and they had to reconfigure
0:14:14it to change it change it and it just
0:14:15happens to look like a giant robot when
0:14:18it's all said and done it one that has
0:14:21aircraft carriers forearms the ship
0:14:24spends a lot of time as a big statue
0:14:26though how do you feel about that you
0:14:27know it takes away from the sort of
0:14:29spaceship pride it does does do a lot of
0:14:31space ship stuff it has space bottles
0:14:33but for a long time is like a statue in
0:14:36the park for pigeons to to respond i
0:14:37think that gives its style points does
0:14:39it need pride when it can blow you up
0:14:41John
0:14:42I always thought that this one tends to
0:14:44kind of get blown up a little bit too
0:14:46sometime you know it goes out in a blaze
0:14:49of glory sir the the Macross sdf-1
0:14:52alright it is a spaceship and it is well
0:14:56it looks like a robot John might argue
0:14:58about the weather it is is your space
0:15:01Fletcher space it's a spaceship I'm
0:15:03let's not talk about whether it's a
0:15:04robot or not that's don't like Ali ok so
0:15:07Brian it's your turn for your
0:15:09first-round pick what do you have
0:15:10well i would like to open by cursing
0:15:12Monty for taking my number one pick back
0:15:14yeah i would also drafting a ok
0:15:18God the draft the draft so my first pick
0:15:22is going to be from the sci-fi series
0:15:26the expanse and first appearing in
0:15:28Leviathan wakes former mcrn ship the
0:15:32Rocinante commandeered by james holden
0:15:34and his lovely crew of complete rates
0:15:37bringing them on adventures all
0:15:39throughout the galaxy for higher doing
0:15:41whatever they want drinking all over
0:15:43Fred Johnson station and all these other
0:15:45wonderful things taking them all the way
0:15:46out into the expanse if you read that
0:15:49far
0:15:49the other reason this shit means so much
0:15:52to me because I lived for six months in
0:15:54brooklyn in a a room that I could not
0:15:57stand up in it barely fit my bed and as
0:16:01that I was going through the expanse
0:16:02audiobooks I got through that relatively
0:16:06difficult living situation by imagining
0:16:08i was on a spaceship as the reason Dante
0:16:11and pretending that the confined
0:16:14quarters i was living in was a necessity
0:16:16of the ship flying through space and not
0:16:19having to take up that much space so for
0:16:22me the rosin on today as well as being a
0:16:24kick-ass ship is meaningful to me in
0:16:26that way as well there wasn't a you know
0:16:28you can pick something with like room
0:16:30right
0:16:30I could but you know the common areas
0:16:34have some leg room but the the I i had
0:16:37this on my list too i think i think the
0:16:39restaurant is one of the stars of those
0:16:41of those books I like that it's
0:16:43secondhand that they basically end up
0:16:45with a Martian Navy ship and they're
0:16:48like yeah this is gonna be ours now and
0:16:50they make it there is occasionally they
0:16:52stick things on the outside of it to
0:16:54make it look like it's some other ship
0:16:55it's not it's the Rocinante and it
0:16:58serves the well and and it is definitely
0:17:00one of the characters along with all the
0:17:02people in the book the Rocinante always
0:17:04a character in that in a book series and
0:17:06fun to see it portrayed on TV too
0:17:08I think that's a great pic front and one
0:17:10of my favorite subplots and the in the
0:17:12books is at one point the mcrn threatens
0:17:15to take it back and you know looters
0:17:18writes everything comes into it i
0:17:19thought that was really fascinating
0:17:20because hey it's their ship now they
0:17:21really come to only even though it is
0:17:23once the Martian fleets put a lot of
0:17:25money into that ship they want to give
0:17:26it back now
0:17:27now of course not
0:17:28at least several more books all right
0:17:30there isn't a from the expanse it's a
0:17:32good pic good pick
0:17:34alright so I in what will probably be a
0:17:36surprise no one's inside the last pic of
0:17:38them this round i am going to pick the
0:17:41ncc 1701 no bloody a B C or D the
0:17:47original series Star Trek Enterprise
0:17:50when I was a kid we went to the air and
0:17:53space museum and I saw the original Star
0:17:55Trek model of the enterprise hanging in
0:17:57a like a doorway basically and I
0:18:00remember that that I that number i must
0:18:02have been like seven years old I
0:18:03remember that clearly they recently
0:18:05refurbished model and it's now on
0:18:07display when they got it they were like
0:18:09what is this it's a TV model they just
0:18:10kind of hung it somewhere and forgot
0:18:12about it and now they restored it
0:18:14it's now on display they put like new
0:18:15like LED lights him because the old
0:18:18lights would probably set it on fire
0:18:19eventually and it's kind of great that
0:18:22it's there but my point is I don't
0:18:24remember anything else from the air and
0:18:25space museum except the enterprise all
0:18:27the real space ships and other amazing
0:18:29aeronautics and astronautics craft that
0:18:31is the enterprise from Star Trek and i
0:18:35love that ship loved it since I was a
0:18:37little kid and I will always love it
0:18:40no holodecks i would say that's a
0:18:42feature food slots are available to give
0:18:44you chicken sandwiches coffee and
0:18:46meatloaf from time to time if you if you
0:18:48would like them they're Jeffries two
0:18:50tubes to crawl in ample number of
0:18:52transporter rooms available some sweet a
0:18:55sweet shuttlecraft in the down in the
0:18:57shuttlebay if you like to go down there
0:18:58and you know other other stuff
0:19:02what more what more do you want there's
0:19:03a there's a rec room too I here so the
0:19:06enterprise 1701 is my three-dimensional
0:19:07chess set
0:19:08yeah oh yeah sure there's lots of games
0:19:11there's lots of games there's some
0:19:12there's some musical instruments you can
0:19:13jam out with space hippies if you want
0:19:15to sure no bathrooms right there are
0:19:19there are not as many as there should be
0:19:20but they are available just off-camera
0:19:22open for those who need them also the
0:19:25sound effects are great lots of boobs
0:19:27and beeps which is a and want to switch
0:19:29is lots of physical switches which as we
0:19:31know from any tech podcast that will
0:19:34tell us this having fit physical
0:19:36switches when you're when you're driving
0:19:37is way better than having a touchscreen
0:19:39be nice if they were labeled
0:19:41the color labels from red or blue or
0:19:44blue switch the blue and you also get a
0:19:47floppy disks that you can you can take
0:19:49around the the data tapes and tapes to
0:19:52queue up the shower and then we can hand
0:19:54you a clipboard
0:19:55I'm not you can you can look at the log
0:19:57and you're here to my pad of paper cup
0:19:59yeah salads salad home and salads to
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0:20:04try the salad bar try recommend it and
0:20:06so does dr. McCoy so there that's my pic
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0:21:34incomparable we have selected spaceships
0:21:36so I guess we're done now let's do it
0:21:38again Joe what's another spaceship that
0:21:41you would like to select well I'm kind
0:21:42of surprised and go in the first round
0:21:43so I feel like I gotta take it now and
0:21:45that's the bird-of-prey now there are
0:21:47many to choose from because it's been
0:21:49featured a bunch of times since the
0:21:51original incarnation but I don't like
0:21:53the bridge
0:21:54and the original incarnation in star
0:21:56trek 3 because they were used to set
0:21:57from some other movie and then sex
0:21:58sandwich boxes on the wall so I'm gonna
0:22:01go with the redress of the star trek for
0:22:06bridge of the redress of the star trek 5
0:22:08bridge of the redress of Star Trek six
0:22:10bridge over the redress the generations
0:22:12bridge which is eventually the IKS
0:22:15retire in general Martok ship in deep
0:22:18space nine so it's got all the
0:22:19advantages of a nice clean updated
0:22:22interior even though it's a 200
0:22:25something year old ship and it's a it's
0:22:27got that cool Klingon stylin on the
0:22:29outside and cloaking device
0:22:31the Klingons don't waste ship designs
0:22:33they just keep them going for a long
0:22:35time I really gotta write the first yeah
0:22:38it's kinda like it you can top it
0:22:39yeah you know that the history of the
0:22:41Klingon bird-of-prey is confusing
0:22:43because I I think didn't wasn't
0:22:44originally like the Romulans have the
0:22:46bird-of-prey but then they'd like they
0:22:48had they had that they couldn't afford
0:22:50new models so then every day they said
0:22:52well the Klingons Romulans totally share
0:22:54ships that's what they do they totally
0:22:56do that and then it became this thing
0:22:58but with Star Trek and Star Trek three
0:23:00the bird-of-prey really became a
0:23:01character and then we saw it again and
0:23:03again after that after it was in star
0:23:05trek 3 even though there were sandwich
0:23:06but yes because it be at the first time
0:23:10they hinted at the technology swap was
0:23:12enterprise incident where they wanted to
0:23:13use the Klingon models right of the
0:23:15Romulan models for third season star
0:23:17trek oh all the Romulans had a Klingon
0:23:20ships an important plot development and
0:23:23it wasn't but they had a model they
0:23:26could tell you but the that eventually
0:23:29in the story there is going to take this
0:23:30whole convoluted thing about how crude
0:23:33was going to steal a Romulan
0:23:34bird-of-prey so they could go to this
0:23:36mission but they're just like we don't
0:23:37need any of that so it's just a Klingon
0:23:39bird-of-prey now yeah and and i think it
0:23:41works out fine because it looks looks
0:23:43cool
0:23:43hey there's a whole star trek movie
0:23:44where all of the principles are flying
0:23:47in a in that ship right i mean that that
0:23:49Star Trek for they don't have an
0:23:51enterprise they have a Klingon
0:23:53bird-of-prey and they do just fine
0:23:55they remember where they Park the park
0:23:56in san francisco to get back to it later
0:23:57it's got a cloaking device is very
0:23:59useful right well I still think they
0:24:00smell oh they must smell
0:24:02well the Klingon food packs give us our
0:24:05rating system how what'd that their
0:24:07targets running around on those things
0:24:09it's called space ism I see your face
0:24:13races if it doesn't like a steaming pile
0:24:16of target poop anyway John syracuse tell
0:24:19your next what do you have so I know
0:24:22earlier I made some comments about other
0:24:23people think spaceships that have a bad
0:24:24habit of blowing up but i'm going to
0:24:26make an exception for my next pick my
0:24:29second thing I choose the Death Star
0:24:32yeah its normal wars which it is not a
0:24:35moon they can hold a space station but
0:24:38really it's a spaceship it flies around
0:24:39it has very variable speed seemingly you
0:24:42can go from star system to star system
0:24:44but then takes a long time to do orbital
0:24:46insertion around another planet but
0:24:47specifically since you're doing all this
0:24:49business with picking every single
0:24:51enterprise with a different letter after
0:24:52the name i'm actually picking the death
0:24:55star to the unfinished one from Return
0:24:58of the Jedi for a couple of reasons
0:25:00fully functional right or fully
0:25:02operational
0:25:03so first of all it is fully operational
0:25:04was just despite the appearance the
0:25:06second of all it is more powerful than
0:25:09the original but John the death star one
0:25:11actually blow up planets just start to
0:25:13never blew up any planet well we'll
0:25:14listen listen the first one could be
0:25:16killed with a single shot from the
0:25:18outside the second one requires
0:25:19incredible piloting skill to get to the
0:25:21middle of it through a very winding
0:25:23passages with lots of tubes and pipes
0:25:25and everything and then multiple ships
0:25:27have to make the middle and blow it up
0:25:29and then have to get out alive it's much
0:25:30harder I mean you can't have guests are
0:25:31easy to blow up like oh you should have
0:25:33better defenses they worked on it they
0:25:35improved it you know is pretty good for
0:25:37a second attempt
0:25:38I also think it looks cooler than the
0:25:39other one and it's got a cool dark
0:25:41throne room where I can see them they
0:25:42like the big Emperor chair and like
0:25:44cackling look out the big spider web
0:25:45window it's pretty nice right to the
0:25:47point where it goes up but it would be
0:25:49worth it
0:25:49yeah i mean eat you have to have like an
0:25:51army of teddy bears to take that thing
0:25:53down because it has a has a totally
0:25:55impenetrable shield except that one
0:25:56minor little flaw
0:25:57that's right you knew the teddy bears to
0:25:59to even get to the point where you're
0:26:00skilled pilots could fly through the the
0:26:02all the pipes and tubes and everything
0:26:04so it's much harder to kill them
0:26:06the first one well I had the death star
0:26:07on my list too i think it is a classic
0:26:09iconic space you know spaceship space
0:26:13station whatever it may be it is it is
0:26:16iconic and and and what we the question
0:26:19we all still have to ask though is why
0:26:21just the Death Star have a whole we may
0:26:23never know
0:26:24anyway skype it's time for your choice
0:26:26what do you have for well I am tempted
0:26:29to pick a different Klingon bird-of-prey
0:26:34also save everything has been altered an
0:26:38alternate version of something
0:26:39previously pick that wouldn't be like
0:26:41you at all
0:26:41no because I do have on my list of very
0:26:44specific bird of prey but i will pick
0:26:48something that the first time you see it
0:26:51it is shocking and to all star trek fans
0:26:55it is don't you doing don't you do a a
0:26:57ominous box of cybernetic adminius i'm
0:27:04picking the Borg cube which says hey
0:27:08we're in space
0:27:09why do we need to be aerodynamic
0:27:10s-tronic you be done with it later on
0:27:14we'll have a sphere it'll be fine and we
0:27:16like our geometry and so and the first
0:27:19time I saw its in the the next
0:27:22generation episode I was just like what
0:27:24the heck is that
0:27:25that looks unlike any spaceship i have
0:27:27ever seen
0:27:28although very similar to d6 so I felt a
0:27:32kinship to it so the Borg cube your
0:27:36biological and technological
0:27:37distinctiveness will service the
0:27:40collective I don't you have to be a Borg
0:27:42if this is on your team I am the board
0:27:44king missile or there's like others
0:27:49Nick there's no viruses and things like
0:27:52that the Borg cube that is uh I remember
0:27:54seeing that in the wake you who episode
0:27:56and thinking what a great idea like it
0:27:59it's so alien in that it doesn't have
0:28:01any of the aerodynamics that they always
0:28:03designed ships unnecessarily in sci-fi
0:28:06movies and TV shows and it was on my
0:28:09list too i think that's a great choice I
0:28:10I i I'll always have liked the board
0:28:13cube the Borg sphere which can be
0:28:15ejected from a board cube an interesting
0:28:17wrinkle but you gotta go classic I think
0:28:19with the board decision that the power
0:28:21mac g4 cube is off the table or twisting
0:28:23takes only if it flew in space Brian but
0:28:27then then
0:28:27let me handle it's also not actually
0:28:29cube shape so yeah even I was able to
0:28:31put shape-wise it's true
0:28:34beta Scott are you picking the the one
0:28:37from first contact are you picking the
0:28:38one from the battle wolf 359 or are you
0:28:41packing picking the original key one I
0:28:44think I'll go with the original q Who
0:28:46when I do like the first contact cubes
0:28:48they they look a little spiffier i will
0:28:50admit but we have to keep it classic i
0:28:53think i think im gonna grant Scott the
0:28:55entire board cube class as a yes
0:28:58nobody pick extra board cubes were just
0:29:00they look the same come on oh speaking
0:29:03of racism okay Erica what we only had a
0:29:07lot of Star Trek and Star Wars here help
0:29:10us out I bet you've got something else
0:29:12please Ben I do all right yes you're
0:29:15talking about aerodynamic I'm gonna pay
0:29:17ship that's not particularly aerodynamic
0:29:19but it is it is a hearty ship that can
0:29:22run almost forever and that would be the
0:29:25Jupiter Mining Corporation ship Red
0:29:27Dwarf it it looks kinda weird it's got
0:29:32some asteroid sort of attached to its
0:29:33sides because its mining I feel like
0:29:35this important for my fleet to be able
0:29:37to get some raw materials when I need
0:29:39them to a brain with red dwarf and yeah
0:29:41the weird scoop looking thing on the
0:29:43front that doesn't look like it could
0:29:45actually scoop up anything that is
0:29:47scooping up hydrogen i think it is so
0:29:50that it can just keep keep going forever
0:29:51so look at the beginning of the show red
0:29:53dwarf it's it's been going for three
0:29:55million years already and obviously
0:29:57needs very little maintenance because at
0:29:58that point all has are a few scholars
0:30:00which are pretty much crap at everything
0:30:02oh when it comes right down to it plus
0:30:04you get you get some some fun companions
0:30:07to travel around with when i when i get
0:30:10bored of the doctors wackiness and the
0:30:11TARDIS i can go and have some completely
0:30:13different wackiness and I know that
0:30:16Crichton will always be there to do my
0:30:17laundry so basically all of my chores
0:30:19are done i mean i could actually just
0:30:21pop them over to the TARDIS from time to
0:30:22time and have him clean my rooms there
0:30:24it would be really wonderful and you
0:30:26know I could always have a list or make
0:30:27me curry anytime I wanted it and yeah
0:30:30then that would have to avoid the cat
0:30:33most of the time because god that would
0:30:34be so annoying
0:30:35and do and then we'd have rumor who's my
0:30:38favorite
0:30:38oh yes yea TX pressure is off he's a
0:30:42hologram hardlight hologram a hard light
0:30:45hologram is totally different
0:30:47yep just like the just like the whatsits
0:30:50the doctor from Star Trek Voyager
0:30:51hardline Holograms when the hologram not
0:30:54a hologram never it's always a hologram
0:30:57is the end of the day
0:30:58whoa don't expect to that situation
0:31:01there's a light beyond ok the red dwarf
0:31:04that's a gut that's a great one we were
0:31:06just talking about red dwarf and look
0:31:07here it is in the draft amazing
0:31:10Monty what do you have um a variety of
0:31:14questionable choices that sums up your
0:31:17life and i'm going to go to the world of
0:31:21literature IEP goals literature i'm
0:31:25going to pick Dora who is Lazarus long
0:31:28ship
0:31:28Wow from the books time enough for love
0:31:31and the number of the beast and I think
0:31:33to sail beyond the sunset although i
0:31:35can't remember whether she actually
0:31:36appears in that she's a ship designed
0:31:40for luxury which I like very much and
0:31:42also she has a sassy personality
0:31:43built-in not your Hal 9000 personalities
0:31:48that tried to kill you but just enough
0:31:49personality to harass Lazarus and tell
0:31:52them what is being done
0:31:53alright i have I don't know if i've read
0:31:56any of those books i would recommend
0:31:57time enough for love
0:31:58all right but not number of the beast
0:32:00really like number of the beast
0:32:03hardly anybody else does haha i say
0:32:05alright what wondered what else do we
0:32:07know about day so it's Dora the ship or
0:32:09the or the intelligence are they kind of
0:32:11intertwined they are intertwined um if
0:32:14you like you can pretend that Dora is
0:32:16piloting the ship but actually Lazarus
0:32:18does a lot of the piloting and it seems
0:32:19like dora is just there to keep him
0:32:21company
0:32:22Dora conceives of herself as the ship i
0:32:24think at some point she gets downloaded
0:32:26into a body and to sail beyond the
0:32:27sunset or something that doesn't matter
0:32:29does she do a lot of exploring in
0:32:31principle yes she does library no
0:32:32swiping and she never has to check a map
0:32:34so don't say map
0:32:36okay chip what's your choice i'm going
0:32:39to go with the Cheyenne dropship from
0:32:42aliens
0:32:43this is not the silica which is a very
0:32:46impressive looking ship but it is what
0:32:48the
0:32:49Marines used to get down to the planet
0:32:52and there is just something so cool
0:32:56about an entirely aerodynamically
0:32:58impossible badass helicopter in space
0:33:02basically that has fold-out wings that
0:33:04fold out when it's flying through the
0:33:05atmosphere and it would just sheer off
0:33:06and just die everywhere but that scene
0:33:09is so cool in the movie and that ship
0:33:12just really sells the whole of the whole
0:33:16Marines in space kind of thing
0:33:18the fact that it is so cool you have to
0:33:21wear raybans to be its pilot in the end
0:33:25then the far-off future it's it's it's
0:33:28one of those moments in that movie that
0:33:30possibly left too big a mark on young
0:33:36dateless males of my generation who
0:33:38watched this movie and got all kinds of
0:33:42bad ideas about what it was like to be
0:33:44in the military in science fiction
0:33:46stories but the Cheyenne dropship it
0:33:50just looks so damn cool and put a heck
0:33:53of a ride
0:33:54somebody wake up pics very nice very
0:33:56nice reference
0:33:59alright Brian its to you what do you
0:34:01have for us
0:34:02I would like if I may oh this was a list
0:34:06on a strange journey after a night of
0:34:10debauchery and singing and dancing and a
0:34:13weird sci-fi monster that comes to life
0:34:16somehow through the magic of watercolor
0:34:18paints the castle in the 1975 movie The
0:34:23Rocky Horror Picture Show that takes off
0:34:26from Planet Earth and flies back through
0:34:31space and the hacks even through time
0:34:34itself back to the galaxy of transsexual
0:34:39in the planet Transylvania there you
0:34:42have it the rocky horror picture show
0:34:44castle
0:34:44Wow three spaces draft is over he just
0:34:47wanted money you said you had that you
0:34:49were you planning that one too
0:34:51that's what I couldn't decide on how uh
0:34:53huh
0:34:54that is amazing Brian I that okay yes
0:34:57you get a gold star for that one
0:34:58completely unexpected
0:35:00now it bothers me
0:35:02that there isn't a floor anymore because
0:35:04bread and gender left on the ground
0:35:06which I think means they just took off
0:35:09without the foundation no no they
0:35:11escaped the mansion they get out of them
0:35:15and dr. Scott scuttle off onto the lawn
0:35:18and I guessing the propellers in the
0:35:21wrong word a turban whatever jetfire
0:35:24spouts below the mansion scorch them and
0:35:29then they sing one last song all
0:35:30together about superiors ok
0:35:32excuse me so many times nothing you
0:35:34haven't Monty I know you have but
0:35:36believe me it's not pay attention after
0:35:39a while
0:35:41okay i'm going to with my with my pic at
0:35:44the 10 the second round of our spaceship
0:35:47draft i am going to pick something from
0:35:50Babylon 5 because I feel like Babylon 5
0:35:53spaceship designs are not as appreciated
0:35:56as they should be up in particular one
0:35:58of my favorite sci-fi TV spaceship
0:36:00designs ever is the minbari war Cruiser
0:36:03their kind of look cross that off my
0:36:05later kind of blue there really tall and
0:36:08thin air like a tropical fish and I
0:36:11think it's a really great design like it
0:36:13there this we see so many spaceship
0:36:15designs that are horizontal or or that
0:36:19that that run lengthwise and these are
0:36:21tall narrow ships when they fly around i
0:36:25mean i know there are no directions in
0:36:26space but the way that everything is
0:36:28shot and oriented you don't see them as
0:36:30like flying saucer-like things they're
0:36:31these things that look like blue bright
0:36:34tropical fish flying through space
0:36:36blowing things up saving the day come
0:36:39and piloted by aliens with big bones
0:36:42coming out of their heads just as a
0:36:43bonus
0:36:44there's places you can sleep although
0:36:45you may have to sleep at an angle the
0:36:48bridges cut bridges are comfortable
0:36:50there are lots of places you can you can
0:36:52hang out with with minbari they're very
0:36:54interesting conversationalist
0:36:56but really it's for the outside look at
0:36:57it it looks unlike any other TV or movie
0:37:02spaceship i can think of and I every
0:37:04time I see them on Babylon 5
0:37:06I love them and a little honorable
0:37:08mention for there's an episode where we
0:37:10see a previous generation of minbari war
0:37:13cruisers and there
0:37:14and they're visibly older and they're
0:37:16all kind of rounded and there's very
0:37:18clearly the same style but older and I
0:37:21thought that was a beautiful piece of of
0:37:23art direction as well so but i'm picking
0:37:26the the modern by Babylon 5 terms
0:37:28minbari war Cruiser they're so pretty
0:37:30they also pack a real punch too i mean
0:37:32if you want like pure destructive power
0:37:34that's that's a good way to go
0:37:35they're going to take over the earth I
0:37:36mean right up until they surrender for
0:37:38other reasons they're gonna go all the
0:37:40way to earth and and defeat the the
0:37:42earth in the earth-minbari war and then
0:37:44they don't easily like through tissue
0:37:46paper and they're silent but deadly
0:37:48they are silent but deadly it's true and
0:37:51there's there are some key scenes where
0:37:52minbari war cruisers appear in Babylon 5
0:37:54and you just kind of want to stand up
0:37:55and Cheer because it's like yeah the
0:37:57fish have come the space fish are here
0:37:59to save everyone
0:38:00it's the best alright so that's my
0:38:02that's my Babylon 5 pick their okay we
0:38:05are at the third round we're making good
0:38:07time here Joe give us another spaceship
0:38:10ok this one's tough there's a lot of
0:38:12directions to go now because the things
0:38:14that I feel super strongly about are
0:38:16mostly taken care of but I i kinda want
0:38:20to make sure that nobody takes this one
0:38:22and I'm a little worried based on a
0:38:23reference someone made at the beginning
0:38:24of the recording that somebody well so
0:38:26i'm gonna pick the NSE a protector know
0:38:27it's on my list all it's on my list
0:38:29yes gotcha Brian now better idea
0:38:33the NSA protector is from one of my
0:38:36favorite films and I love watching
0:38:37galaxy quest it has a minor blemishes
0:38:40from leaving drydock yeah it it it is an
0:38:44interesting ship design and that its
0:38:46star trekky without necessarily being of
0:38:49Star Trek and it is a guided cool little
0:38:52bridge that pops off for reasons
0:38:55Capcom into it also has the Omega 13
0:38:59just in case you know you make a mistake
0:39:00you ever cook your pasta you need to
0:39:04make sure that you don't have somebody
0:39:07died
0:39:08don't forget my job person it's also got
0:39:09the choppers well I'm not really
0:39:11planning on forgot my self-destruct
0:39:13no yeah but but hopefully you know the
0:39:16checksums will remain valid and I wanted
0:39:18to worry about that but the the ship's
0:39:21it's fun it's a lot of fun i love it so
0:39:24i'm gonna i'm picking that one it kind
0:39:25of looks like a horseshoe good
0:39:27I like everything about that ship is
0:39:29that at the end of the movie when
0:39:31they're frantically racing through we no
0:39:32one knows how the ship works because
0:39:34they're all actors so they had to radio
0:39:36back to earth to get someone who
0:39:38actually knows to get just a long shelf
0:39:40from yeah it's one of my favorite little
0:39:42plot to assume movie when they're able
0:39:44to get a fan to be able to help them out
0:39:46that way and it works really well that's
0:39:48why it was on my list
0:39:49that's why we all have the technical
0:39:50manual for Star Trek or Star Wars when
0:39:53we were kids righteous because in case
0:39:55we were we need to be like Justin Long
0:39:57galaxy quest and help out
0:39:58ok John there's a lot of really good
0:40:01Star Wars stuff still out there I'm kind
0:40:02of shocked i almost picked a star wars
0:40:04thing last round I decided you know
0:40:05John's probably gonna pick all the Star
0:40:08Wars thing so I I you meetin you know
0:40:11are you picking a star wars thing or
0:40:12have I just steered you wrong
0:40:14that's one possible strategy I had I
0:40:16realized I could just pick Star Wars
0:40:17things for the entire graph but i
0:40:20decided i wanted to mix it up jumping
0:40:24I'm jumping some ships in my order here
0:40:26because I mean now that I'm looking over
0:40:27this list it's really kind of honored i
0:40:29want to pull something up from the
0:40:30bottom up the top not because i think
0:40:31other people will get it but just
0:40:32because i don't know how many rounds
0:40:33will go and i think this the ship
0:40:35deserves it
0:40:36this is the jewel of the Star League the
0:40:39gun star Starfighter yeah this was a
0:40:45very interesting shift is on very
0:40:48dragard very interesting mix of typical
0:40:52sci-fi ship with just enough of NASA
0:40:55thrown in to make you believe that
0:40:58really the star league is out there and
0:40:59they're playing video games maybe an
0:41:01audition to you about this thing and
0:41:03this thing about it they spend a lot of
0:41:05time in this ship like that it's not
0:41:06easy to pull you have to learn how to do
0:41:08it you have to go through training both
0:41:09on the ground and in the ship and it's
0:41:12got your cool you got your copilot your
0:41:14lizard guy behind you that's cool it's
0:41:16got your cool secret weapon with the
0:41:17death blossoms which is just like a
0:41:19little extra thing that you weren't
0:41:20aware that your ship has experimental
0:41:22might not work you know it's kind of
0:41:24silly in action but you know but now I
0:41:27just think it looks super cool and I
0:41:28really hope they remake this movie at
0:41:30some point because what they did with
0:41:33this ship and limited or no texture
0:41:35mapping and
0:41:36incredibly time-consuming rendering was
0:41:39amazing and it really dazzled me in a
0:41:41similar way the star wars dazzle me like
0:41:43you know in that I knew this you know
0:41:45that they were doing this in computers
0:41:46and it was impressive and i really like
0:41:49it's super cool that ship violated
0:41:51gloriously every possible law of physics
0:41:54stuff physics in space is works
0:41:57I'm led to believe it it would've shaken
0:42:00itself apart it would have blown itself
0:42:01apart i love that thing so much god John
0:42:04I hate you
0:42:05that's why we do drafts for people to
0:42:07mad when people take other peoples of
0:42:09spaceships you should have got a higher
0:42:10score in that game machine and maybe you
0:42:12can be yours all right Scott John has
0:42:15steered away from star wars are you
0:42:18going to pick another ship from Star
0:42:20Trek well I i have one star wars ship on
0:42:25my list uh but I'm not gonna pick it up
0:42:28uh-huh yet i'm going to keep it close to
0:42:32my heart for some reason i will pick i
0:42:35will i will also i'll join Monty and
0:42:38jump into literature and pick a ship
0:42:42from a series of books so I en mi your
0:42:48sniping mihiro go ahead
0:42:51well i don't i don't know which one
0:42:53you're gonna pick because there are a
0:42:54lot of ships in the culture the culture
0:42:56has a the culture series is one of the
0:43:01things that it's known for is a the
0:43:03interesting names for many of the ships
0:43:05and in many of the books ships are in
0:43:07fact characters because they all have
0:43:09mines at least one of them some of them
0:43:12have three or four of them they control
0:43:15the aspects of their their functions the
0:43:18ship's very a wide range of sizes there
0:43:22are ships that have millions of people
0:43:24that are on them to tiny little ships
0:43:26that have no people on them i am picking
0:43:28a medium systems vehicle which is the
0:43:31second largest the largest is the
0:43:33general set systems via vehicles i'm
0:43:35sure everyone knows it is called a fine
0:43:38disregard for awkward facts and it
0:43:41appears in the novel the hydrogen Sonata
0:43:44which is of a fine book so everyone
0:43:47should be used
0:43:48and then that is my my pic just because
0:43:50i like the name i was going to I had on
0:43:53my list i won't pick now since since you
0:43:55picked that I had a UI the GSV on my
0:43:57list because i think the GSV itself is
0:44:00such a fascinating shipped a lot of
0:44:02great space ships in the culture but gsv
0:44:04is that have like billions of people
0:44:06living on the middle like planets that
0:44:07fly around in space or any emotion of
0:44:10mining craziness haha in banks look at
0:44:14that well I'm glad that you went to
0:44:16literature somebody had to Erica what
0:44:20would you like to pick next
0:44:21I've been debating going toward another
0:44:23property that i feel very strongly about
0:44:25but I think my next pic just has to be
0:44:27based on the ship itself and how freakin
0:44:29cool i think the ship is and i'm
0:44:32sticking in the red dwarf universe
0:44:34because in my favorite episode of red
0:44:36dwarf hollow ship there is a sweet ship
0:44:39called the enlightenment which is a
0:44:42hologram attic ship it doesn't have any
0:44:44mass or volume it is apparently composed
0:44:46entirely of tachyons and it has the
0:44:49ability to travel many multiples of the
0:44:52speed of light can make wormholes
0:44:53instantaneously take you from point to
0:44:56point and they are only allowed to have
0:45:00a crew of two thousand all Holograms so
0:45:03I feel like this is sort of my
0:45:04retirement policy when whenever one of
0:45:09my other ships eventually gets blown up
0:45:11and I'm on it i will be constantly sort
0:45:14of saving my my mind print so that i can
0:45:17be brought back on the hollow ship and
0:45:20scholarships pretty sweet
0:45:21I mean once you're there they just ship
0:45:25well okay ship regulations do stipulate
0:45:27you have to have sex twice a day
0:45:29I feel like that might be a little bit
0:45:30excessive just like the board cube this
0:45:34day mean the days are very well takia
0:45:36days are very long but the but you could
0:45:39but as a hologram on you can touch
0:45:41everything else on the ship it being
0:45:43holographic so eating drinking you know
0:45:45exercising swimming all that kind of
0:45:47stuff they have have all the latest
0:45:49amenities and all that kind of stuff and
0:45:51you're practically indestructible you
0:45:53don't have to worry too much because
0:45:54there's very little that's physical
0:45:57about this ship and
0:45:58yeah it's pretty awesome and I feel like
0:46:00it's a it's a nice mesh with with the
0:46:03red dwarf because then Arnold Rimmer
0:46:05could finally get the place that he
0:46:07deserves
0:46:08well sort of on the hollow ship and then
0:46:10i would probably just take one of those
0:46:12other two thousand crew members and i
0:46:15would probably have have them cycle out
0:46:17and and somebody would have to always be
0:46:19on red dwarf to sort of keep an eye on
0:46:21those guys because I just couldn't trust
0:46:22them by themselves so i would have one
0:46:25of the very very smart capable Holograms
0:46:27from the Enlightenment take over there
0:46:30for a while but it would we would have
0:46:31to swap them out because anybody smart
0:46:33and capable would not last very long on
0:46:35red dwarf without going completely
0:46:36insane
0:46:36so that's my plan just a lot of a red
0:46:40dwarf here
0:46:40surprisingly yes I was being spread
0:46:42surprised me a little bit but through
0:46:44all through all right Monty what do you
0:46:47have
0:46:47well I want to have fun with my
0:46:50spaceships you know I got the satellite
0:46:51of love for relaxing and watching movies
0:46:53with my robot pals la thank you i got
0:46:57Dora who is a pal but ask myself what
0:47:00spaceship is the most pure fun what do I
0:47:05associate with fun so I'm going to pick
0:47:08the rocket that you're riding when
0:47:10you're on Space Mountain this is
0:47:14obviously it's not ship your zooming
0:47:15around space dodging asteroids and stuff
0:47:19I think you're still in florida no nope
0:47:23you're totally in California but anyway
0:47:24yes i will allow it
0:47:26the rocket that is the city that is the
0:47:29roller coaster in space mountain who
0:47:31Jason just looking for new podcast
0:47:34standoff Monte i think and i think you
0:47:36mean unity
0:47:38all i know is i don't gotta wait no
0:47:41lines
0:47:42ah ok the dance the robot is now I mean
0:47:46that's a smelting probably got worse
0:47:50I'm sure you do it's on the board ship
0:47:53what do you have
0:47:53i am going to go to the pinnacle of
0:47:57modular spacecraft technology i'm going
0:48:02to go back to the year nineteen
0:48:03eighty-three and I choose the legoland
0:48:07space galaxy commander
0:48:10wow this is a classic space set it
0:48:14combines into multiple different forms
0:48:17it's it's a big ship that comes with
0:48:19five of those little red yellow and
0:48:22white classic spacemen it's got a back
0:48:25section with a slide-out lab module it
0:48:28was big and it was it and it was
0:48:30expansive and it was probably in it's
0:48:33probably super expensive as Lego has
0:48:36become over on and it was the last
0:48:38really big really cool legoland space
0:48:41thing before lego started abandoning the
0:48:44whole we're all space explorers thing
0:48:46and started giving them enemies and just
0:48:48sort of surrendering to the GI Joe
0:48:50application of toys and things like that
0:48:52but for 44 people of a certain
0:48:56generation that nests of Lego back then
0:49:01was a wonderful creative outlet for
0:49:04getting into 444 playing and getting
0:49:09into and role-playing the whole the
0:49:11space stuff that we were watching on
0:49:13movie movie screens and television so
0:49:16this was the this was the best of them
0:49:19and it made my heart sing when Benny
0:49:23showed up in the lego movie and all of
0:49:25that nostalgia for those old lego space
0:49:27toys became a part of the became a
0:49:30really big important part of that movie
0:49:32so the legoland space galaxy commander
0:49:35item number 6980 thank you i'll put that
0:49:39in a catalog put on your wish list
0:49:42Brian it's your turn what's your third
0:49:44selection well I'm i didn't even put
0:49:47this on my list because I thought it
0:49:48would be taken in the first round Allah
0:49:49enterprise and
0:49:51women falken but here we are a
0:49:52third-round I thought why not pick the
0:49:55firefly serenity right around Jason you
0:49:59only have yourself to blame you only
0:50:01have yourself
0:50:02oh right oh man how what can i say about
0:50:06this 12 episodes in the movie is not
0:50:09enough time to spend on this glorious
0:50:10glorious ship captain by nathan fillion
0:50:13at all and Jason curse your sudden my
0:50:17son Jason purse my sudden but inevitable
0:50:20betrayal all you want but here i am
0:50:22adding a serenity to my fleet it's a
0:50:26great choice are one of my favorite
0:50:28things about that ship not only I i
0:50:29really like that show a lot but they
0:50:30built the ship as the set it's a
0:50:33multi-level set i believe and you get
0:50:36the feeling of it as a real place in
0:50:38that show which is something that you
0:50:41know it's hard to do because it's a TV
0:50:44spaceship but you really feel the
0:50:46geography and the lived in nature of of
0:50:50serenity when you're watching firefly I
0:50:52think it's a great when do you get to
0:50:53see people like I'm going from room to
0:50:55room through corridors you know i love
0:50:57the their bunks where they sort of you
0:50:59know the door sort of kicks out and
0:51:00they'd taken a ladder down to get to get
0:51:03into their rooms and the fact that you
0:51:05know it's a smuggling ship and it can do
0:51:06stuff like bullet crazy Ivan versatile
0:51:09yeah it's got a nice family style table
0:51:11where everyone can eat together very
0:51:13pleasant got a cool profile it looks
0:51:16need to arm it looks like a firefight
0:51:17for some reason out wonder why they
0:51:18didn't admit that but mocha interesting
0:51:20read the whole class is five weeks is
0:51:22the first one was probably the firefly
0:51:24then after that they had to give them
0:51:26different names
0:51:27alright well Brian ruined everything
0:51:30there so with by pic i cast is over i am
0:51:35chris seriously I'm gonna go to
0:51:37literature to just again because i want
0:51:40to clap join join a couple of our other
0:51:42panelists in classing this thing up a
0:51:44little bit with some some book
0:51:45spaceships i am picking with my third
0:51:48selection the Justice of Toren which is
0:51:53a spaceship from the Imperial raj it is
0:51:56a it is a spaceship that i feel like i
0:51:59got to know because the AI or at least a
0:52:02portion of the AI that was the justin of
0:52:04Justice of tour
0:52:05friend is brac the meat main character
0:52:08in and Lucky's series of books ancillary
0:52:11book starting with ancillary justice so
0:52:13you get to know this ship is a character
0:52:15ships rai is they are they are sentient
0:52:18creatures even though their computers
0:52:20that run spaceships and by the in the
0:52:24plot of the book the the the ship is
0:52:26blown up but one of the ancillaries
0:52:28which is a human body containing the
0:52:30mind or portions of the mind of the the
0:52:32artificial intelligence the spaceship
0:52:34survives and has to deal with being by
0:52:36itself and not in a ship anymore which i
0:52:39think is really interesting and a
0:52:40flashback we get to see how the ship's
0:52:42work in there they're also very
0:52:43interesting although also sort of
0:52:46populated by zombie slave labor which is
0:52:48not so awesome but they it's not the AIS
0:52:50fault they were born into it was gonna
0:52:52say those ships are a little problematic
0:52:53if they are cool they are cool but
0:52:55they're yeah it's not it's not the
0:52:56ship's fault right
0:52:58but I feel like I've gotten to know that
0:53:00ship in a way that that I we don't
0:53:02normally get to know a spaceship because
0:53:04it's the main character in an entire
0:53:06trilogy science-fiction novels that that
0:53:08spaceship so yeah it's Lord Justice
0:53:11check it out i will ask you one question
0:53:13though and that is what does it look
0:53:14like I don't know it's a spaceship it's
0:53:16cool it's got lots of levels and you
0:53:18think it looks like and stuff and it's
0:53:20got a really smart way I that's in a
0:53:23bunch of the zombie alien or zombie
0:53:25human bodies and that's all that matters
0:53:27when they make the movie Joe a very
0:53:29clever our director will come up with a
0:53:31beautiful design for it i'm sure all
0:53:34right let's do one more round before we
0:53:36bring out our dad Joe well there is one
0:53:40sci-fi series that i feel like i need to
0:53:42get into this and I was thinking long
0:53:45and hard about the cool ships that are
0:53:46in the sci-fi series one of the notable
0:53:49things of course the listener in
0:53:52stargate a vaporizing a bunch of gold
0:53:55pyramids on the the ground when they
0:53:57shouldn't be there it's like I said any
0:53:59visual for two seconds they didn't do
0:54:00that much more and then I was thinking
0:54:02well what's the coolest like the
0:54:05penultimate ship in Stargate and i would
0:54:06have to say is the Atlantis the the
0:54:09actual snowflake city thing is a ship
0:54:11that flies around sometimes when it has
0:54:13power
0:54:14it's a little a problematic that way
0:54:16but that that would definitely be my
0:54:18pick for her for that from from Stargate
0:54:21stargate atlantis not my favorite of the
0:54:23star key
0:54:24but you're right that it is an
0:54:26interesting the entire series it's
0:54:29basically the city on this planet and
0:54:31then but it turns out it's a spaceship
0:54:34which is a fun fun little wrinkle but
0:54:37it's got some engineering problems
0:54:38getting old though I mean it's gonna run
0:54:40down because it's been there so long
0:54:42that I think stuff is broken that right
0:54:44that's kind of why I can fly around
0:54:45yeah and there's a you know a couple
0:54:47labs where be careful if you open them
0:54:49because maybe the ancients for studying
0:54:50some sort of deadly secret that'll just
0:54:52vaporize you kill you or wander around
0:54:54stalking people so you know student
0:54:57common areas
0:54:58yeah okay hands and arms to yourself
0:55:01while we remain indoors you got a
0:55:02Stargate so you can pop around wherever
0:55:03you want to go that's true that part
0:55:05that feature is pretty awesome
0:55:06ok John what do you have a lot more
0:55:09ships on my list yeah I know I know this
0:55:12is gonna last but a real pic it's hard
0:55:14for me to choose and it's a down to two
0:55:16is made a last-minute decision to to go
0:55:19to go with my gut here and not pick the
0:55:22obvious one
0:55:22I'm going to pick the colonial Viper m9
0:55:27and i'm picking that because i had a
0:55:29small obsession with this ship when I
0:55:31was a kid I had 1i had a plastic you
0:55:34know Viper toy from whatever the
0:55:36original Battlestar Galactica series now
0:55:38then we moved house at some point when I
0:55:39was young and I lost it I lost that and
0:55:43i lost a stormtrooper kenner figure both
0:55:45of which were incredibly crushing but I
0:55:49replace the Stormtrooper but i never got
0:55:51another Viper and the reason i picked a
0:55:53nice i spent a lot of time drawing on my
0:55:56notebooks in school during spaceships
0:55:58and I drew the Viper a lot like that was
0:56:01my most drawing ship I think for my
0:56:03during my spaceship drawing phase of my
0:56:06life and I got pretty good at drawing
0:56:08and drew drew drew cutaways of it i drew
0:56:11the inside of the cockpit i do
0:56:12everything about it even though like
0:56:14that you know so few scenes reuse the
0:56:16footage and over and over again and I'll
0:56:17start um I was it was very obsessive
0:56:19machine this ship I think it's really
0:56:21neat and the specific model i'm picking
0:56:23is the Viper mark to from the new series
0:56:26from the rebooted
0:56:28a Battlestar Galactica that is when they
0:56:30showed like here's the old Vipers from
0:56:33the first Cylon war and their
0:56:35reimagining of what the old ones look
0:56:36like is what I remember the old ones
0:56:38looking like when I go back and look at
0:56:39what that actually looks like they don't
0:56:41look right to me
0:56:42so that's a specific shape that I want I
0:56:44just think that is a very iconic simple
0:56:48ship and obviously that you have many
0:56:50other similar iconic ships that I could
0:56:52pick their competing with but I I looked
0:56:54within myself and I said what were you
0:56:55drawing in your notebooks most of the
0:56:56time it was my first I love it
0:56:58well John did your did your toy hyper
0:57:01have the real shooting missiles or the
0:57:03child safe ones child safe man
0:57:08so sorry and I'm like I didn't know it's
0:57:11for child safety i know is lame my way
0:57:14he called my a Cylon like that the disk
0:57:17shapes the Cylon think same thing they
0:57:19would go pitifully just come out of an
0:57:21extra quarter inch into sinha terrible
0:57:23so you're not making the paper that has
0:57:25a motorcycle attached for Galactica 1980
0:57:27no ma still on the board
0:57:33Scott what's your choice i'll pick the
0:57:38Viper with me you know i am tempted to
0:57:44pick a star trek ship but i'm not going
0:57:46to one of the things that is problematic
0:57:50with faster than light ships is that
0:57:53you're traveling that fast and thanks to
0:57:56inertia you will end up the cruel end up
0:57:59being GU right so Star Trek cells by
0:58:02inertial dampeners other places just
0:58:04don't bother explaining it
0:58:07dan simmons Hyperion cantos which is a
0:58:12set series of books has a class of ships
0:58:15called the Archangel class starship that
0:58:18solves this problem by
0:58:21you know you you do I become liquefied
0:58:24but luckily you are in a resurrection
0:58:27crash so at the end of your journey you
0:58:30are resurrected and you are reborn at
0:58:33the end of your your your space flight
0:58:35and so don't worry about this you know
0:58:37so that I pick the Archangel class
0:58:40starship that strip sounds terrible
0:58:42yeah yeah but awesome you come back to
0:58:46life at the end so you know exactly you
0:58:48don't you don't you don't remember any
0:58:49of it
0:58:49yeah except for brief moments where
0:58:52you're like fide you're gonna do you
0:58:55remember the awful part of a cross
0:58:57parasite thing on your chest
0:58:59yeah that's true rest your life you do
0:59:02have to have the cruciform on otherwise
0:59:04you can't fly in the ship
0:59:05well you know teacher it's a condition
0:59:07of them we only accept Christ that's a
0:59:10good one Scott Erica what do you have
0:59:13that was a good one
0:59:14hats off to ya thats off well thinking
0:59:17about what I've got a feeling I got a
0:59:18lot of kind of weird stuff you know if
0:59:21holly gramatik ship the TARDIS which is
0:59:23just strange you know the red dwarf is
0:59:25coming clunky i feel like i need
0:59:26something that's a little more you know
0:59:28classic like sports car spaceship like
0:59:31you know heroic let's let's go and fight
0:59:34the bad guys so i am going to to go to
0:59:37another show that starts with a be and
0:59:39has a number but it's actually Blake
0:59:40seven not Babylon 5 and i'm going to
0:59:43pick the Liberator which is the ship
0:59:45that they are on through the first three
0:59:47seasons of the show it was actually an
0:59:49abandoned spacecraft found very
0:59:51mysteriously as our heroes were escaping
0:59:53from a prison that they did not want up
0:59:56belong in and it was just this soup
0:59:56belong in and it was just this soup
1:00:00her hot rod of a spaceship that they
1:00:02didn't quite understand because it was
1:00:04too far like technically advanced 444
1:00:07that time basically they found one of
1:00:10the rooms was just full of treasure and
1:00:12fancy clothes and jewels and stuff which
1:00:15you know that's always a nice thing to
1:00:16have on hand it also has to transport
1:00:19technology little bracelets you can put
1:00:21on and be transported down to the ship
1:00:23which is not something that other ships
1:00:24in this universe at that time had it
1:00:27also had an AI system the computer
1:00:29called itself is n and has kind of just
1:00:31a very surly grumpy voice and when he
1:00:34doesn't agree with what he's being told
1:00:36to do will often just give the give the
1:00:38crew the cold shoulder just not answer
1:00:40questions and not talk to them for a
1:00:42while i appreciate a computer with a
1:00:44with a little bit of personality like
1:00:46that but when it comes down to a
1:00:48deliberate ER is way faster than any of
1:00:50the Federation ships that it's that's
1:00:52battling or trying to get away from and
1:00:54it's just it's just kind of a cool place
1:00:56to be great medical technology great
1:00:58speed and and yeah until it gets eaten
1:01:02by like bacteria or something that's
1:01:05that's it has a very disgusting and
1:01:08probably most disgusting end of any
1:01:09spaceship I've ever seen but until that
1:01:11point it's fantastic
1:01:14like seven you didn't let me down Erica
1:01:16you're all over the place you got some
1:01:17doctor who is some red dwarf some flakes
1:01:19of an amazing
1:01:20well it's not that far off is no one's
1:01:22gonna move to Canada it it's all from
1:01:24one tiny island really it's true through
1:01:27Monty what do you have
1:01:29I'm gonna need a ruling on this because
1:01:31it's a ship that has never actually went
1:01:33into space and did not in fact have the
1:01:35engines but i would like to pick the
1:01:37Space Shuttle enterprise for sentimental
1:01:40reasons chase and I would allow it
1:01:42now it's a spaceship it just didn't it's
1:01:44like saying it's not a car if you never
1:01:46drive it out of the factory store car as
1:01:48it all right i'll give it to you
1:01:49yes monitoring then my pic is a orbital
1:01:53vehicle designation ov-10 one the Space
1:01:56Shuttle enterprise which has the
1:01:58distinction of having been named after a
1:02:01fictional spaceship that then in the
1:02:04world of that spaceship the fictional
1:02:07spaceship is then named after this space
1:02:08shuttle which i think is fascinating
1:02:10it was going to be named something else
1:02:12but
1:02:13nerds even back in the nineteen
1:02:14seventies knew what was up and got a
1:02:16petition together and said dear NASA we
1:02:18hear you're going into space again call
1:02:20it the enterprise please and NASA also
1:02:23nerd said yeah you're right let's do
1:02:25that
1:02:25unfortunately they didn't save their
1:02:27their gunpowder for one of the ships
1:02:29that actually went into space that's
1:02:31always the sad part of that story but it
1:02:33is true there's that scene in is it the
1:02:35motion picture where there's a the
1:02:37models of the various spaceships and
1:02:39Captain Kirk says all of these ships
1:02:41have borne the name enterprise yeah
1:02:44there is a pencil drawing now that
1:02:47yeah I think Jeffrey's true all of them
1:02:49but i'm not entirely sure like this one
1:02:51that's like a weird hoop with a bit like
1:02:53a line through it
1:02:55ignore that one but the name enterprise
1:02:57goes back to the British fleet like
1:03:00there are tall ships that sailed with
1:03:03sales called the enterprise that name
1:03:05successfully makes it all the way to
1:03:06star trek under interrupted because of
1:03:09this space shuttle and i'm pleased to
1:03:10pick an actual nearly spaceship
1:03:13yep very nice see if after the ocean
1:03:15liner draft Monty come on chip what do
1:03:19you have a tough choices all around left
1:03:22on my list but i think i'm going to go
1:03:24with my heart and I talked about another
1:03:28multitasking ship that didn't turn into
1:03:31a robot but it was still a big
1:03:32battleship in it when it when called
1:03:35upon it could also be a really really
1:03:37big gun and I'm talking about the Space
1:03:40Battleship Yamato also known in the US
1:03:43as the Argo on Star Blazers that was
1:03:47that was the the space opera cartoon of
1:03:52ya seventies and I was on my last trip I
1:03:55applaud you it was on my list ah it was
1:03:58it it's a it's a great-looking ship of
1:04:01the notion of converting an ancient
1:04:05Japanese an ancient sunk Japanese
1:04:07battleship into a spaceborne battleship
1:04:11made absolutely no sense to American
1:04:13audiences so of course they a couple of
1:04:16episodes in they said well it used to be
1:04:18the model but we're renaming at the Argo
1:04:20but it the look of it is great the
1:04:25they played they mess around with scale
1:04:28a little bit because somehow they
1:04:30managed to get a few squadrons worth of
1:04:32fighter planes into something that is
1:04:35basically just you know a battleship
1:04:36battleships aren't that big but it looks
1:04:40great and it has a super cool wave
1:04:42motion gun the Argo love the wave motion
1:04:45gun
1:04:46yeah I think that was was that not
1:04:47loving the idea there was hey this is a
1:04:49this is a really notable ship from
1:04:52japanese history that was sunk by the
1:04:55Americans let's change the name for the
1:04:57American audience but haha yeah but but
1:05:00surprisingly they they left in the
1:05:02references to the Yamato in the in the
1:05:04early episodes
1:05:05yeah it was very clearly they think they
1:05:07very clearly left that in and the the
1:05:10aesthetic of that show just holds up and
1:05:12there is in the last couple of years
1:05:14there's been a remake of the original
1:05:16series that pretty much follows the
1:05:18storyline and most of the character and
1:05:21ship designs and all that stuff just
1:05:23cutting edge animation and it's so
1:05:25wonderful you like boats in space huh
1:05:27yeah yeah three boats in space and
1:05:31aircraft carrier into battleships wait
1:05:33wait i bring out my dad Brian what do
1:05:35you have this would have been my number
1:05:37one pick had it not been for draft
1:05:39strategy and picking things that I was
1:05:41sure p other people picked because
1:05:43nobody's picked this it's a relatively
1:05:45obscure this is a spaceship from easily
1:05:48when my top 5 video games with past
1:05:50decade FTL colon faster-than-light stars
1:05:54the spaceship the Kestrel this game is
1:05:57one where you navigate a spaceship to
1:06:02space but not the star fox actually
1:06:04piloting the ship kind of way but I from
1:06:06the bridge top-down you send men over to
1:06:09the engine room to repair the engines
1:06:11while also having somebody maximize the
1:06:13the weapons while you're fighting other
1:06:15people but then you have to change the
1:06:16power of the ship to reroute power of to
1:06:19the doors because of intruders etc it's
1:06:21incredible the Kestrel is the main ship
1:06:23in it and I've spent so many hours
1:06:25endless hours is a roguelike game so you
1:06:27get to play for maybe an hour hour and a
1:06:30half and then the game is over and you
1:06:31get an arcade-style score but the
1:06:33Kestrel is where you spend all your time
1:06:35trying to recruit members to your fleet
1:06:38and flying through to the Federation
1:06:41base or whatever at the end of the game
1:06:43to try to get the get all your
1:06:45information over there it's it's
1:06:47incredible it's like ten dollars on the
1:06:49ipad and steam but this game is one my
1:06:51favorites ever and the spaceship from it
1:06:53the casserole is also the name of my
1:06:55chromecast fun fact
1:06:56so this would have been my number one if
1:06:58it weren't for actually having to pick
1:07:00other things i thought other people
1:07:01would pick but the Kestrel from FTL
1:07:04colon faster than light which is most
1:07:06redundant video game title I've ever
1:07:08seen ya was just explaining you know
1:07:10what it what it could be like ET the
1:07:13extra-terrestrial mmhmm yeah that is an
1:07:16infuriating game that I am completely
1:07:18addicted to know exactly do you do fact
1:07:21that it's roguelike and you just keep
1:07:23playing and playing and playing so you
1:07:24get a high enough score to actually beat
1:07:25the game is fantastic you know you can
1:07:27play 45 minutes you can play for two
1:07:29hours it's fantastic
1:07:31alright with my ancestral choice the
1:07:33castro with my towards the final pick of
1:07:35of the proper four rounds of the draft
1:07:38and then we'll bring out our dead i have
1:07:40a tough choice here too i was thinking
1:07:42of going with a real spaceship to
1:07:44because I never said fictional and
1:07:47that's what I'm going to do i am going
1:07:48with the Voyager series of spacecraft
1:07:51from NASA
1:07:52ok so first off Voyager 1 and 2 day
1:07:56explore planets that have not been
1:07:58explored before they went to Jupiter and
1:08:01Saturn voyeur to also went to Uranus and
1:08:04Neptune they are so they're still giving
1:08:06important data from the far reaches of
1:08:09our solar system at the edge of the
1:08:11solar system incredibly important
1:08:12spacecraft to the expansion of human
1:08:16knowledge also and guest stars and star
1:08:20trek movie they behave fictional and
1:08:23non-fictional Voyager it goes even
1:08:26further and is found by a machine
1:08:28culture some might even say it was the
1:08:29board but who knows is given its own
1:08:31intelligence and returns to Earth and a
1:08:33giant cloud and Star Trek the motion
1:08:35picture so it does double duty it is a
1:08:37science fictional spacecraft as well as
1:08:41a couple of real spacecraft that were
1:08:43awesome
1:08:43so that's nice intentionally podcast
1:08:46come on i know i know i will tell you
1:08:48all about the history of voyager 8 or
1:08:51whatever what Voyager was
1:08:52it went because you wager 6.46 wages
1:08:56I don't know they ran out of Voyager it
1:08:58turns out the feature feature remains
1:09:00searching for its creator
1:09:02so that's my choice ok we have done four
1:09:05rounds of the spaceship draft but I'm
1:09:07sure everybody else like me has a long
1:09:09list of spaceships that they thought
1:09:11about picking and didn't and so now I
1:09:14ask you to bring out your dead and tell
1:09:15me what else was on your draft list that
1:09:18didn't get picked Joe what did you have
1:09:20that you didn't end up drafting ok so i
1:09:23had the enterprise-e sovereign-class
1:09:26ship
1:09:27oh yeah like I woke up yeah yeah I I
1:09:29like the design of it a lot it's very
1:09:31cool it's very sleek the interior
1:09:33lighting is John notice this little
1:09:35better on the on the even it is indeed
1:09:37it has all of the same features and also
1:09:40has more weapons better shields etc etc
1:09:42but i have a certain attachment to the
1:09:45the D so that's why I picked it and I
1:09:47didn't want to just pick enterprises
1:09:49here with the rest of the show the
1:09:52Sutherland which is the nebula class
1:09:55ship that one was a neat design and
1:09:57development specifically has the little
1:09:59sort of triangle thing on the top of it
1:10:01sort of a weapons platform at it it's
1:10:06not that noticeable otherwise a better
1:10:08but I just like it and then there's the
1:10:09Thunderchild which was the first secure
1:10:10a class ship you see in first contact
1:10:12but i don't really super enjoy it
1:10:14anymore because it always makes me think
1:10:15of enterprise now because they wanted to
1:10:17reuse that design for the next one and
1:10:19it makes me angry now so I I had it on
1:10:22there as a backup an emergency where you
1:10:25really are going to feel conflicted when
1:10:27Star Trek beyond comes out aren't you
1:10:29yes never that trailer up so did that
1:10:33there's the ikea snicker bar which is
1:10:35the the next bar where the it was a name
1:10:38assigned after we saw the two Klingon
1:10:40ships at the end of that Star Trek next
1:10:44generation finale the ones that the
1:10:46enterprise blows up but they turn out to
1:10:48be the capital ships that they reuse
1:10:49later on deep space 9
1:10:51it's an interesting design that harkens
1:10:53back to what Matt Jeffries had
1:10:54originally done for the Klingon cruisers
1:10:55but more updated and also better looking
1:10:59than the porch class so I I like that
1:11:01one
1:11:01and then of course i had the defines on
1:11:03here but as Jonathan mentioned things
1:11:06blowing up is not great and the Defiant
1:11:08unfortunately spoiler has a minor
1:11:12problem with it
1:11:13detonating from certain energy weapon
1:11:17and so I there there's another one that
1:11:18was rechristened later on as happens in
1:11:22Star Trek and and so it's it's a good
1:11:26it's a tough little ship
1:11:27yeah and I I like it's cute it doesn't
1:11:30have the it's a cute little worship it
1:11:32doesn't have the new cells and
1:11:34everything exactly position like a
1:11:35starship Starfleet ship normally does so
1:11:39it makes it look pretty unique defined
1:11:42as also on mother yeah it was all I had
1:11:44the enterprise-e and the defined on my
1:11:45list too
1:11:46very good i watch star trek that didn't
1:11:49get pic that's ok I i do i was also with
1:11:52you if I couldn't get the 1701 I was
1:11:53going to go to the enterprise-e next I
1:11:55was gonna get an enterprise one way or
1:11:56another
1:11:57John what do you have on your on your
1:12:00list that you didn't pick someone must
1:12:02regret not getting too obviously is the
1:12:04income t65 x-wing one iconic ship
1:12:07panelists x-wing started strong as I had
1:12:10a choice to make their i went with the
1:12:12big one the executive class starts for
1:12:15big just because I feel like you're
1:12:17gonna get started for you might look at
1:12:19the big one the big one is their little
1:12:20ones look so drinking and it's got this
1:12:22it's got the seat warmers and the
1:12:23leather and the entertainment package
1:12:25the whole thing
1:12:25yeah my enterprise I think the 2009
1:12:29reboot 1i really like that redesign
1:12:31especially kind of the groovy 60s kind
1:12:33of chrome look I even like ass players I
1:12:35think the cells are little close
1:12:37together for my taste but that's my only
1:12:38minor point out but I really think
1:12:40that's a good design it was on my list
1:12:41too
1:12:42yea high and that's mostly because i
1:12:43couldn't find the the classic enterprise
1:12:46that I kept going to all the wikipedia
1:12:47pages and trying to see where is the one
1:12:49that I really like that it's not the ER
1:12:51been looking all the ones you guys pick
1:12:53it's it's not the original anyway I'm
1:12:55i'm confused about my enterprises but i
1:12:57really do like to those my 1i had slay
1:12:58one on there because that's a great ship
1:13:00coolship a very very odd show ya a
1:13:03discovery from 2001 which i think is the
1:13:06most realistic fake ship and the thing
1:13:08because it's realistic and boring and I
1:13:10like a ship that is a challenge
1:13:12definitely on health that was definitely
1:13:13on my list and I almost pick that one
1:13:15that
1:13:15that's a very interesting looking ship
1:13:17murderous say is I'd right it's like a
1:13:19puzzle ship it's like you're up for a
1:13:21challenge if you want to be a little
1:13:22adversarial with your ship and house not
1:13:24the ship but the heat comes with the
1:13:25ship and he's a handful
1:13:27yeah I had a lot of anime stuff on there
1:13:31at the sdf-1 Varitek Fighter Alpha
1:13:32fighter is basically everything involved
1:13:35that the Robotech came out of the two
1:13:37Voltron's were contending in there
1:13:39whether I was gonna pick individual
1:13:41lines of the whole water on because they
1:13:42hang out in space and everything and of
1:13:43course add serenity and a couple of
1:13:47things that other people pick on that
1:13:48that's pretty much where I cough my life
1:13:49i didn't i didn't go down into video
1:13:51games chips because I just felt like it
1:13:53would pollute my list to my china we
1:13:55wouldn't get that mix it's true
1:13:57Scott what do you have that we didn't
1:13:58hear from you I was the star wars ships
1:14:01that I had John mentioned the executive
1:14:03class super star destroyer
1:14:05I just think 11 mile long ship but how
1:14:09can he not pickin yeah the Derrick's
1:14:12class Romulan warbird a bird-of-prey no
1:14:16war bird yeah Warburton never pray they
1:14:20don't pray anymore they will are one of
1:14:23my favorite alien ships and star trek I
1:14:25had the USS Prometheus which is an
1:14:28experimental ship that breaks off into
1:14:30three different ships that's cool I've
1:14:32always had a soft spot for the Excelsior
1:14:34which was the failed transwarp Drive
1:14:36also later captain by Sulu
1:14:39I think it looks cool i had the Cylon
1:14:42Raider and Rama Rama from Rondo and uh
1:14:48exactly and the heart of gold for
1:14:51pictures got to the countless articles i
1:14:53was referring to before that I thought
1:14:55someone would pick about doesn't really
1:14:56take you where you want to go but where
1:14:58you need to go yeah story once you and
1:15:00by the way I forgot my protest pick my
1:15:02protest if I had gotten sufficiently
1:15:04angry with Susan's officiating which is
1:15:06close to tell you was a spaceship earth
1:15:08they call fall outside epcot I'd that
1:15:11lay out the actual planet
1:15:12okay i'm gonna make the entire planet
1:15:14interesting yeah I'd lost as much space
1:15:17ship as the Death Star it's not
1:15:19oh and that's not but the roller coaster
1:15:21is really cause you're totally station
1:15:23no they were not the roller coasters
1:15:25earth the fictional rocket you are
1:15:27riding when you enter the world of space
1:15:30man that's real and I understood the
1:15:32pitch
1:15:33Erica what do you have for us we didn't
1:15:36get Ted what chip had mentioned if the
1:15:38TARDIS was taking he was thinking of
1:15:40taking the master TARDIS not me I would
1:15:42have taken the Rani's TARDIS because it
1:15:45had a cool marble the court on the
1:15:46inside its got a dinosaur in a jar and
1:15:49instead of a column that goes up and
1:15:50down it's got a rotating pair of
1:15:52metallic rings which looks super cool
1:15:54another doctor who ship from underworld
1:15:57the p7e was a spaceship from the planet
1:16:01manuals and when the minion civilization
1:16:03was destroyed by a nuclear war
1:16:05p 7t took the race banks of all of their
1:16:08people left for the stars and eventually
1:16:10they got caught in a nebula where the
1:16:12ship was basically turned into a planet
1:16:14which is kind of a cool thing and there
1:16:15was all this like Greek mythology stuff
1:16:17so p 7t turned out to be kind of any
1:16:19place to live if you didn't mind you
1:16:22know totalitarian rule there was that
1:16:24too
1:16:24and although all the crawl the green
1:16:25screen to yes
1:16:28yeah that's true was entirely green
1:16:30screen it was it was the prequels before
1:16:33the prequel the actual planet was just
1:16:35green screen everywhere that was there
1:16:38was strange how it was designed that way
1:16:40yeah the activated they had no budget
1:16:42and I've been loaded they may do gosh
1:16:44they may do to keep my marriage happy I
1:16:48was required to mention Benny's
1:16:50spaceship spaceship spaceship from the
1:16:53lego movie which is one of the
1:16:55spaceships that is surrounding me right
1:16:57now the Blake's 7 the Scorpio is the
1:17:01ship that came after the Liberator it's
1:17:03not quite as cool as the Liberator and
1:17:05its computer is named slave and is
1:17:07actually kind of creepy so that is why
1:17:08did not pick it earlier another red
1:17:11dwarf thing
1:17:12starbug starbug is one of the little
1:17:15transports things out of red dwarf and
1:17:16the app are forced to live in it for a
1:17:18while and it's just one of the most
1:17:19adorable little ship models it looks
1:17:21like a little little bug
1:17:23it's like a little rounded run bubbles
1:17:25all stuck together four feet and I just
1:17:27think it's very cute
1:17:28it got to go with some Babylon 5
1:17:31I was was going to even though it looks
1:17:33like a plucked chicken in space
1:17:35I appreciate the white star
1:17:38because oh yeah in part 44 what it means
1:17:41for the characters on the show when they
1:17:42get this new class of ships a bit like
1:17:44you know takes them to the next level
1:17:46and it's exciting and it it's a
1:17:48animation cool i don't care what JMS
1:17:50says thank you
1:17:52hey I wrote it down but i deleted it
1:17:53because of what you had said but I agree
1:17:57it is definitely a cool ship to what the
1:17:59characters
1:18:00mhm yep and it's you know the
1:18:02combination of technologies from two
1:18:04different races and it did kind of you
1:18:06know blows a lot of the other ships out
1:18:07of the water also Babylon 5
1:18:11I really appreciate the Starfury simply
1:18:13a way that they move in space they don't
1:18:16follow like you know regular spaceship
1:18:18rules from a lot of TV shows that i grew
1:18:20up watching they can pivot and spin and
1:18:22and actually pay attention to the way
1:18:23physics would for the most part working
1:18:25space which i think is a pretty neat
1:18:27thing they're they're a they're x-wings
1:18:30informed by real physics
1:18:32basically yeah that is basically what
1:18:35they are and what if we're going purely
1:18:38on what things look like i did have the
1:18:39minbari war cruiser on my list but Jason
1:18:41took that my actual next race right
1:18:43after that was the minbari flier which
1:18:45is a much sort of like a little personal
1:18:47kind of a ship that that people can tool
1:18:49around it all by themselves and it's
1:18:51it's also got sort of like a purpley
1:18:54turquoise blue to it and it's got little
1:18:55fans and it just looks very organic and
1:18:57and it's as if any little thing so I
1:19:00like that but possibly my favorite
1:19:03Earthship from Babylon 5 is the EAS
1:19:06Cortez which is a ginormous ship that is
1:19:10under the command of a captain jack
1:19:11Maynard who is played by the fellow who
1:19:14played dr. Jacoby on Twin Peaks so
1:19:15automatically it's extra cool but if
1:19:18this huge ship that goes out and
1:19:19explores the universe and builds
1:19:21jumpgates so that other ships can travel
1:19:23from place to place which i think is
1:19:25neat and I was also going to pick the
1:19:28Black Lion from Voltron that all and and
1:19:32i was going to pick from the person in
1:19:34mccaffrey spurn series i was going to
1:19:36pick Avis until I realized that that was
1:19:38actually an artificial intelligence and
1:19:40not a spaceship so I have withdrawn that
1:19:42from my list
1:19:43it's tricky sometimes and I see ships in
1:19:46Turkey
1:19:46yeah this there's no AI or spaceship
1:19:48podcast you know yet
1:19:51Monty what did you have that you didn't
1:19:53haha well I had a couple things fighting
1:19:55it out for my real spaceship slot that I
1:19:57pick went with the enterprise on my
1:20:00other options were Soviet Sputnik 2
1:20:02which is the Sputnik that carried like
1:20:05the dog into space around that it was
1:20:07the first thing that could actually be
1:20:09called a spaceship with a passenger and
1:20:12my other option for that was going to be
1:20:13juno currently in the news orbiting
1:20:16Jupiter yep i considered a chair with 47
1:20:20Rockets attached which was allegedly
1:20:22used by a man named one who and 2000 BC
1:20:25to take him into space
1:20:28most people including Mythbusters view
1:20:30this is fictional but what the heck most
1:20:32of these spaceships are fictional so I
1:20:34think should've been fine
1:20:35the plan 9 UFO not only has a radio
1:20:38resurrect the dead which would come in
1:20:39handy but it could be used as a hubcap
1:20:41on a 57 Chevy and my only other one that
1:20:46was going to have to use if everything
1:20:47else got rejected was the cab written by
1:20:50space cabbie space can be of course is a
1:20:53marvel comics character who drives a cab
1:20:57through space of course of course why
1:21:00not why not
1:21:02sometimes you gotta get somewhere you
1:21:03don't have a spaceship you have to get
1:21:04ice cap you got to pick up some money
1:21:06somehow
1:21:07why not driving people around I'm really
1:21:09mad that space uber is going to put that
1:21:10guy out of a job but you know yeah you
1:21:12got it disrupt everything
1:21:15chip what did you have well there's been
1:21:17a depressing lack of space Winnebagos in
1:21:19this draft so the hero five from
1:21:23spaceballs is called for
1:21:25ok there's also a depressing amount of
1:21:27space Winnebagos in that movie one on
1:21:31too many I was also thinking about the
1:21:34heart of gold in Star Trek world of the
1:21:37USS reliant which is I think the first
1:21:41really get in the classic series pretty
1:21:44much if you saw way if you saw a
1:21:46federation ship was a redress to
1:21:48enterprise rental and this was the first
1:21:51time that we got to see a different look
1:21:54for the ship and that
1:21:55and up the whole that opened up the
1:21:58whole universe for future movies and TV
1:22:00shows the Romulan warbird when it
1:22:04appears in the know that's that's like
1:22:07the one good moment in the first season
1:22:09of star trek next turn right is when the
1:22:11warbird shows yeah that's that
1:22:13deidara decks class that uh you
1:22:16mentioned that Saudi Scott mentioned
1:22:17yeah and uh and as far as enterprises go
1:22:22the the Constitution refit the star trek
1:22:26one through six enterprise is by far my
1:22:29favorite I I much prefer that to the JJ
1:22:35Abrams version which just looks like a
1:22:37barge to me Mom in a star wars a funnily
1:22:43enough when I was a kid it wasn't the
1:22:45x-wing that did it for me it was the
1:22:46y-wing uh I i adored the y-wing and i
1:22:50kinda liked even as a kid watching that
1:22:52movie and seeing that
1:22:54yeah here's the Bombers that are really
1:22:55supposed to take out the the Death Star
1:23:00and they have a design that lends itself
1:23:02to that and they go through there and
1:23:04and makes it all the more remarkable
1:23:07that are young are young Luke Skywalker
1:23:09safes day the the phoenix from science
1:23:15and engineering gatchaman AKA battle of
1:23:16the planets it's a multitasker
1:23:19it's a it's a spaceship it's a carrier
1:23:22and it's blowtorch and the i did have a
1:23:25fuck video game in there the the fighter
1:23:28from Vanguard at the 1981 arcade game
1:23:31that allows you to shoot in multiple
1:23:33directions and fly through an energy pot
1:23:36and just smash through other spaceships
1:23:38and walls that was great and finally my
1:23:41last dead bringing my multitasking theme
1:23:45home not just one ship but fifteen ships
1:23:49not just spaceships but also sport
1:23:52utility vehicles and helicopters the
1:23:55gestalt a vehicle Voltron lot of Ultron
1:23:58happening here
1:23:59Ultron red dwarf surprising amounts of
1:24:01both Brian what did you have left
1:24:04well my most legitimate one that I had
1:24:06was a TIE fighters from Star Wars I
1:24:08I free to favorite one of the satiny
1:24:11yeah I have everything that relates to
1:24:13you my I think they look the coolest of
1:24:16any of the star warships I too had
1:24:19discovery one heart of gold on my list
1:24:22the only one that no one's mentioned yet
1:24:23is the Nostromo from my alien which is
1:24:26one that was on my list infested though
1:24:29you don't want that one that's true i
1:24:31like it it's very atmospheric and creepy
1:24:33and there's a cat on it he shipped from
1:24:37district nine big looming creepy
1:24:40mysterious ship in johannesburg the
1:24:44thing from contact with the hell that is
1:24:46yeah I had that on my life to the
1:24:47machine from Carter I mean the spaceship
1:24:49itself is like a bubble right but it's
1:24:51got the crazy like gyroscope thing that
1:24:53launches it into the wormhole right now
1:24:57it was a I didn't have much to say about
1:24:58it is just the thing from contact and
1:25:00really liked watching i also had you
1:25:02know and the international space station
1:25:05on my list from the video game room I
1:25:07have ratchet and clank spaceship which I
1:25:10can't remember the name of and samus
1:25:12around spaceship from the Metroid Prime
1:25:13series which does not have a name except
1:25:15for samus's gunship and the things that
1:25:17were too tired to argue were spaceships
1:25:20whir Wheatley from Portal 2 and bender
1:25:23from futurama as seen in episode 3 20
1:25:26God fellas when he is flying through
1:25:28space and harboring a a civilization on
1:25:32his chest and then talks to God I didn't
1:25:35want to argue that so here I am for your
1:25:37consideration the asset has special
1:25:39place and I'm glad that we didn't have
1:25:40to get there Brian I'm gone for he was
1:25:43awful generous this time how to yeah
1:25:45yeah i think those might have been
1:25:47rejected but you never know in the
1:25:49moment I might have just proved
1:25:50everything sounds draft unless I approve
1:25:52something controversially here's what i
1:25:55have left I had Moya the Leviathan that
1:25:58is the spaceship in farscape a living
1:26:01creature by that that they that is also
1:26:04a spaceship and they and we hear about
1:26:07her mood from the pilot the pilot is and
1:26:10some of the other characters are sort of
1:26:11emotionally attached to the to the
1:26:13spaceship and she had a baby at one
1:26:15point who is also a spaceship in during
1:26:18the run at that show so i think that was
1:26:19a very interesting spaceship care
1:26:22sir I really like the Vorlon cruiser and
1:26:26transport ship both the designs of both
1:26:28of those from Babylon 5 they are kind of
1:26:30shimmery the shimmery and the kind of
1:26:31like a flower almost or a plant of some
1:26:34sort that kind of garlic got a bit yea
1:26:36big stock and then a little Cape kind of
1:26:38thing in the back there really neat i
1:26:41was going to mention the from Doctor Who
1:26:45the code the Dalek saucer only because
1:26:48it's hilarious it's just a flying saucer
1:26:50and they go with it and they just yes
1:26:52they are in a flying saucer
1:26:54you just have to I just remember might
1:26:56like one of the important ones i forgot
1:26:58to put my list
1:26:58yeah me too from you knew this was going
1:27:01to happen it's happening late in the
1:27:02game from the Micronauts of course the
1:27:04microbes ship hms endeavor as well as
1:27:08the bioship which is just a very large
1:27:10version of the character biotron who is
1:27:12a ship the the original Romulan
1:27:16bird-of-prey I had on my list from
1:27:19balance of terror with a mark leonard is
1:27:22the commander I had that I had that that
1:27:25model and I it was the hardest thing to
1:27:28get that the the whole bird on the
1:27:30bottom as a decal and I can I and I tore
1:27:33it and it was it uh how the Romulans do
1:27:36it wasn't the snap together model one
1:27:38where you had the wet decal that you put
1:27:40over the whole bottle was not it was a
1:27:41glue together but then yes you have a
1:27:43white decal that you have to put on the
1:27:44bottom of it had the snap together one
1:27:46with a decal it was it was a smaller
1:27:48version of the same problem
1:27:49yeah yeah butBut I I thought that was a
1:27:51cool weird vessel in an early start Trek
1:27:54there weren't that many spaceship models
1:27:55really and that was an interesting one
1:27:57from the comic book saga the main
1:28:00characters travel a lot in a tree that
1:28:03is also a spaceship and I always thought
1:28:05that was kinda cool and there's a key
1:28:06moment where they they they mentioned
1:28:09something about having to be on the on
1:28:12the radar because the radar of all the
1:28:14spaceships is detecting all the metal
1:28:15objects around them and they realize oh
1:28:17our ship is made of wood they can't see
1:28:20us which is a pretty cool moment because
1:28:22it's a tree and then finally since uh
1:28:27since chip mentioned the fighter from
1:28:31Vanguard i'll just say I don't know that
1:28:34spaceship to fly around in
1:28:36defender and that's it we're done
1:28:38nothing turns on a dime
1:28:40it's amazing smart bomb smart behind I
1:28:43know how about that and that's it
1:28:45what did we learn nothing except that
1:28:48there are lots of spaceships and that's
1:28:50how i like it so I'd like to thank my
1:28:53panel for joining me and for picking
1:28:55some spaceships i'm going to thank them
1:28:56in turn now and tell you what they got
1:28:58tell them what they won Joe rosenstiel
1:29:01thanks for being here you got the
1:29:02enterprise ncc-1701 d the Klingon
1:29:06bird-of-prey from deep space nine will
1:29:08say the ncsa protector from galaxy quest
1:29:12and the snowflake city of Atlantis from
1:29:14Stargate Atlantis thanks for being here
1:29:16thank you John siracusa you walked away
1:29:18with the Millennium Falcon the death
1:29:21star to the gun star from the last
1:29:23starfighter and the colonial Viper work
1:29:27too
1:29:28thanks for being here i'll try not to
1:29:29spin off another podcast from this one I
1:29:31don't know we're running out a robot
1:29:32frankly so maybe this is our next stop
1:29:35its it could happen
1:29:36scalability you had the ncc 1701 deal
1:29:40with that extra nacelle stuck onto it
1:29:43you also have the Borg cube the fine
1:29:47disregard for awkward facts msv from the
1:29:49culture novels and the Archangel class
1:29:52ship from Hyperion thanks for being here
1:29:54and I remember the bird-of-prey that I
1:29:56had on my list was general change from
1:29:58the undiscovered collage and fire while
1:30:00cloaked they can doesn't end well for
1:30:02that ship though detailed things to it
1:30:05does have a tailpipe and Shakespeare
1:30:06that also features the accessories so
1:30:09much Shakespeare Erica you had the
1:30:11TARDIS the red dwarf enlightenment from
1:30:14red dwarf and the Liberator from blakes
1:30:167 that's pretty solid hall of fame of
1:30:20british sci-fi ships I think I feel like
1:30:22I'm keeping up my end here
1:30:24yep somebody had to MIT Ashley satellite
1:30:28of love from mst3k Dora from Robert
1:30:31Heinlein novels rock the rocket you're
1:30:34riding on when you're riding on space
1:30:37mountain and the Space Shuttle
1:30:40enterprise
1:30:41thanks for being here thank you myspace
1:30:43street is fun it is difficult
1:30:46the space shuttle by the way is
1:30:49currently in a museum or something
1:30:50yeah it is museums are fun yeah exactly
1:30:53i just have that my front yard showing
1:30:56off for the neighborhood
1:30:57sure chip you had the Macross sdf-1 from
1:31:01Robotech Cheyenne dropped from aliens
1:31:03the legoland space galaxy commander its
1:31:06number 6980 in your catalog and the
1:31:09battleship yamato or are go from Star
1:31:11Blazers thank you
1:31:13the amount of space in a ship well said
1:31:17watch yourself Brian get the Rocinante
1:31:21from the expanse novels and TV series
1:31:23the castle from the rocky horror picture
1:31:25show that is as Monte ESCA pick as you
1:31:28can get
1:31:28serenity you made me very angry there
1:31:30and the castrol from the game FTL colon
1:31:34faster-than-light thanks for being here
1:31:36lost in time and lost in space and
1:31:40meaning and i am your host Jason still
1:31:43have the enterprise 1701 from the
1:31:46original Star Trek a minbari war Cruiser
1:31:48that's like a tropical fish the Justice
1:31:51of Toren from and Lucky's series of
1:31:53novels starting with ancillary justice
1:31:55and the Voyager probes including the one
1:31:58that's in Star Trek the motion picture
1:32:00because why not
1:32:01and this has been the incomparable
1:32:03spaceship draft thanks to everybody out
1:32:05there for listening we'll see you next
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