The Incomparable

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00:00:11 ◼   ► the incomparable podcast number 94 jun [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► welcome back to the comfortable podcast [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► on your host Jason Snell and in this [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► edition we are going to talk about [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► it's a little bit of a departure I guess [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► from us we like all things kiki here but [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► there's a genre that is not [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► traditionally thought of as a place for [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► Kiki stuff that's the sitcom television [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► situation comedy and yet there are many [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► sitcoms that are either let's run [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► through it there either a they are sort [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► of genre like science fictional they are [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► featured geeky type people or they [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► feature story lines and concepts that [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► appeal to Kiki type people and we are [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► going to talk about that tonight [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► this is a topic suggested by our very [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► own Lex Friedman i'd like to introduce [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► Lex Friedman to you now but wouldn't you [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► but he couldn't make it so thanks likes [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► for the idea and then joining me to talk [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► about this instead of lex joining me i [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► have fine guess I have been more and I [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► dan I just and I'd like it to be known [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► that I'm better than Lex in every way we [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► we already knew that but thank you for [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► saying it [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► that's so we're clear your honor it also [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► serenity Caldwell Iran high and Scott [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► McNulty is here as well hi Scott [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► hello I also and disappointed that I'm [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► not Lex Frieden also joining us is andy [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► anarcho Andy hi hello thank you for [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► joining us so systems I i think what i [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► said in my note to everybody about this [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► episode was to come prepared to talk [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► about something that you are you [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► consider to be a geeky saw the comment i [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► assume in praise of it although you know [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► there are also many honestly there are [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► many more that we could condemn then [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► praised i was looking wikipedia actually [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► has a page called the list of science [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► fiction sitcoms just looking at it is [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► not a good list maybe we should start [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► Alf alphabetically Alf the OM about a [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► puppet alien is it comes in first first [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► in your hearts and first enlist on [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► wikipedia alphabetically [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► he's from the planet melmac he enjoyed [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► about cats first first on the list on [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► wikipedia is a great name for out and [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► tumblr blog episode [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► i'm watching Alf and I was a kid and [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► enjoying it [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► homeboys in outer space oh my god wow [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► that ring back [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► UPN sitcom all man i want to come over [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► so that it was terrible terrible as a [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► bad show [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► I don't consider this be animated I [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► don't think the animated one should [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► count futurama the jetsons yeah invaders [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► zoom is it also reduces artisan kinds [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► really sitcoms however me go which is [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► that is [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► isn't that the the bronson pinchot was [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► an alien [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► well yes yeah that's that's actually [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► what you said junior broadsides show [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► that's actually just like I like Bronson [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► Pinchot is actually an alien a Mork and [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► Mindy my favorite Martian [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► wow yeah that's a classic that students [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► that's valid that's that's not bad that [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► none of those ones that i was going to [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► bring up though I mind my favorite [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► Martian podcast maybe a little too old [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► of a of a demographic there [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► so who would like to bring up a and [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► presumably praise a geeky sitcom who me [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► meanie [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► ok dad he's gonna do mine for I am [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► because it's my favorite to come of [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► olive oil so i get this Hannah this is [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► like the reason that you're on the [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► podcast so pronounced it is no it's at [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► least a phrase [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► small wonder it's it's it's Matt Matt [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► she's hope you like a mash because I'm [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► any like classic what I loved about [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► small wonder was how they made the girl [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► speak Vicki the robot soon realistically [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► in that Jay spoke like this but she was [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► fantastic manager would you make it [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► you'd make an immaculate robot that [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► looked exactly like a human being [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► acting stiffly and many acres and then [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► you'd make her voice sound like this [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► doing technology it's it's the [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► definition is the definition of the [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► uncanny valley [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► I don't want to take that away from you [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► Dan though so go ahead and talk thanks [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► chase and I I appreciate what I'm gonna [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► talk about small wonder now or what they [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► want swinging on a star you see that one [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► out of this world how this world that's [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► why this week and start with the theme [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► song [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► no I'm not a great i believed and more'n [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► I know what he's gonna pick and [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► I know that he loves it and so we're [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► going to go to him with the with the [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► choice of the I know he wants to talk [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► about space right [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► yes the the seminal simon pegg nick [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► frost vehicle which began their lot [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► they're long collaboration with director [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► Edgar Wright as well as a jessica hynes [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► nay Stephenson fantastic british sitcom [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► that began airing and I believe either [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► 99 or 2,000 because I first watch this [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► when I lived in the united kingdom which [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► was briefly in college and friend of [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► mine who had been there longer than i [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► had said oh you got to watch the show [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► and it was the second series of it or [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► season you prefer the American [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► nomenclature i said i'll check it out [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► and and i watch the show and I felt [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► deeply madly truly in love with it and [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► went and bought the the region two dvds [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► of the first season so I could catch up [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► on all the stuff that I'd missed and it [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► is i think it would be hard to find the [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► sitcom that is that is quite quite as [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► geeky as space is in terms of just the [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► number of references sort of per minute [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► in fact in the DVD releases i have they [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► they have a what they call an homage [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► ometer where they put in the subtitles [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► of the bottom of the screen [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► what they are referencing at any given [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► moment and that might be like three or [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► four different things at various times [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► and I tried to catch them all in there [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► but there are some of them are are so [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► obscure or so particularly British in [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► some ways that i just had never heard of [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► them but obviously you get a lot of the [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► big references you get star wars is a [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► huge huge part of it in fact is a is a [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► major plot point in the second season [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► how much Tim played by Simon pay hates [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► the Phantom Menace is it Star Trek [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► references because it's the early two [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► thousands you there's the obligatory [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► matrix episode just chock-full of geeky [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► references and what makes it so so great [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► is that they weren't necessarily defined [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► by being geeks they weren't geeks in the [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► way that you might see [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► beyond you know some of these sitcoms [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► now the purport to focus on geeks but it [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► was clear that the film that the needy [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► people writing and directing the show [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► who you know obviously included to the [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► people who started the show were huge [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► geeks themselves because the kind of [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► references they put in there weren't [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► sort of like no nudge-nudge wink-wink to [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► like you know the sort of the mainstream [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► audience about how silly these people [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► are they were deeply personal moments [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► that reflected not only the characters [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► were but who the the actual people [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► portraying them at writing this works I [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► i love this sitcom with so much passion [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► and it has led me to follow the career [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► of a simon pegg and nick frost and edgar [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► wright we've gone on to do a number of [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► excellent things including shaun of the [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► dead hot fuzz us Edgar Wright directed [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► scott pilgrim and they are making yet [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► another third and what they call their [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► blood and ice cream trilogy called the [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► world end which they're starting [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► production on this fall and of course [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► Simon Pegg has gone on to to revitalize [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► the role of Scotty in the latest Star [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► Trek movies directed by JJ Abrams so [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► certainly a deep bench of geek cred [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► yeah I I cannot express how much i love [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► these shows i own i still own on my [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► shelves region two dvds of both the [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► first and second seasons and have [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► maintained a region to region free DVD [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► player for many many years just for the [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► purpose of watching those I in fact [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► though I do own a region one copy it has [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► been on extended loan to one of my [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► cousins so i need to reclaim it one of [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► these days [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► ready 1 2 cosine about about spaced I [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► know you're sad that I'm not really sad [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► because dan has much more geek cred on [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► space than I do [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► since I've really i've only watched [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► space through about twice and having [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► arisen that it is still number two on my [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► list of all time TV shows last for me [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► mhm what's number one but a sports night [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► of course but yeah I mean I when I first [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► started watching space it was actually [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► on tail end of another sitcom it can't [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► really be called geeky but still is very [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► intelligent which is arrested [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► development and [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► after having watched the season of [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► Arrested Development my friends are like [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► oh if you like Arrested Development you [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► are going to adore spaced and I'm like [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► okay and I start watching it and of [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► course it's it is it is fun and is witty [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► and has things that call back but the [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► the extra sort of geet I and what really [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► sold it for me and the fact that it's [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► like oh they're portraying you know [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► they're portraying geeks as human [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► figures who happen to also like you have [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► you have the point the the episode that [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► always sticks out in my head is the [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► mortal kombat episode then can you like [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► elaborate on this and this episode [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► because I can only remember visuals but [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► it's something was not fighters only [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► students and like a KO situation [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► well no it's just it's it's the kind of [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► show for all the other having they have [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► an argument [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► oh yeah it's it's not necessarily mortal [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► kombat I think it's a I think it's a [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► different fighting game but they're [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► havin they're havin like an argument and [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► as each of them scores a point or so in [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► their argument it's sort of reflected in [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► a video game until the one of them makes [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► the you know the sort of defeating [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► argument and then you get the KO Gail [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► Gail I always think of the scene where [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► he's playing he's playing tomb raider [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► after his that between tomb raider after [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► his girlfriend has broken up with him [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► and he's not actually playing tomb [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► raider he's just having laura croft jump [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► into water and just drowning her because [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► he's so angry [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► yes there's a little ton of video game [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► references a ton of comic book [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► references in fact that i believe as I [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► recall his last name so the character's [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► name the character of Tim is a is a [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► cartoon areas a comic book you know LS [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► illustrator and his last name tim is Tim [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► bisley and I believe Simon Bisley is a [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► fairly well-known illustrator who I [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► think did some sketches including for [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► like the space cover and stuff like that [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► so and then I'll there's a later episode [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► in the second season where Tim finally [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► gets a chance to sort of draw for one of [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► like that the comic-book labels that he [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► loves so there's there's some comic [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► stuff there's a lot of geeky movie and [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► television stuff and the highlight for [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► me is that there's actually a lot of [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► stuff about high brow art and theatre [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► which is kind of sprinkled in because [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► one of the characters on [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► spaced if you haven't watched it is they [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► all live together in this apartment [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► building and one of the tenants in this [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► apartment building is a shut-in artist [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► named Brian who is a who is a special [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► creature likes to paint in a couple [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► different flavors i watched a few [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► episodes and I must bit it was humorous [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► but i did not make me want to watch the [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► whole thing so i stopped that's at sad [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► Scott and makes me it makes me hurt my [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► heart region [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► I'm sorry the first six to eight [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► episodes are a little cerebral to get [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► through especially if you have never [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► watched british comedy before I know [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► when I was first watching it I'm like [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► this is fun but I mean the first 16 [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► episodes of the first season [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► yes I know who that's what it's only [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► like 14 episodes already short-handed [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► british sitcoms in general and I I [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► recognize that it was good it was just I [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► just it was not for me where they're too [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► many Star Wars references for you that [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► may have turning slightly so yeah we [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► have we have many too many things to [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► talk about my I think they're a couple [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► shows that we're going to inevitably get [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► to but I I thought we would ask friend [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► do you have a favorite you want to throw [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► out their discussion let's see i have a [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► couple of the one i will mention though [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► is the one that I feel like I think I've [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► mentioned on the show before was a show [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► that ran I want to see on ABC a couple [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► years back and unfortunately got [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► Smackdown right in the middle of the [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► writers strike so didn't really get a [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► chance to take off and that was better [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► off ted which is pseudo pseudo geeky [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► pseudo pseudoscience half-hour sitcom [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► that just had some really really funny [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► moments and I think that is actually [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► available in its entirety on netflix and [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► I urge anybody who like who really enjoy [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► is sort of it's a it is a cut above most [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► sitcoms I won't say it's necessarily [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► best like all-time epitome of what a [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► geeky sick comments to me but it had [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► really great characters who again it's [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► it's bridging the the people who look [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► outwardly like geeks to r22 what we [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► stereotype is a geek [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► with you know the people who are [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► actually like the people who are North [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► technically normal in the show like Ted [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► and his will will they won't they [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► girlfriend but not actually girlfriend [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► the other people pitched as normal here [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► and in reality i'd say they kind of end [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► up being the geekiest because they end [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► up happening like secret hobbies and [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► plans and things like that but and that [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► and that show we've got the characters [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► who are in the lab coats are the [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► scientists and they're funny and there [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► they are very funny in the stereotypical [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► very nice dynamic but you also have the [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► overarching premise which is that this [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► company that they work for radio [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► dynamics is essentially a supervillain [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► corporation and they are constantly [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► inventing horrible things that Ted is [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► supposed to find ways to market in some [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► way and Portia de Rossi is his terrible [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► boss who is essentially a super villain [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► in that she's got her job is to promote [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► this terrible company and they're [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► horrible murderous products and and yeah [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► it's that's a great show better off ted [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► it's it's lonely i love the little of [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► Veridian dynamics commercials as a [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► personal yeah but if you're watching it [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► for the first time you have no idea that [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► it's fake commercial until it's obvious [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► we're talking about you know liquefied [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► cows or something [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► yeah I don't think this is a real [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► commercial there's always a fake for the [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► dynamics commercial Lena and every [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► episode of better off ted that is it as [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► an excellent show and again another one [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► that was cancelled far too soon but I [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► yeah i really i really want bitch i love [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► that they're always coming up with tears [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► in their whole episode where they have [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► like an after-work club that's basically [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► like like hitting each other with swords [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► or something like that and then they [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► invite a bit because they they like him [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► and they want to like approval but it [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► gets like to competitive and like to [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► joke like almost and all the games going [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► now we will now we don't have any fun [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► with it [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► yeah it's it's a it's a really fun [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► little show it only ran four what if it [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► was uses two seasons yeah but we're both [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► thirties was another like 13 episodes [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► yeah yeah i think that burned off the [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► rest the the end of it but it was a very [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► good show that was a that's a [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► I think the same guy who did andy [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► richter controls the universe yes yes [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► their brother very good show yeah [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► everything in a similar vibe to it very [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► yes yep paget Brewster and portia de [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► rossi not that far apart in those [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► character isn't you know [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► no I'm pitching it to people i often say [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► it's kind of like a geeky arrested [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► development with ridiculous commercials [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► smack in the middle and seems to [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► describe it more or less yeah of course [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► Victor fresco was also known for his [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► work on net about you and evening shade [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► starring burt reynolds now that science [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► got to get that booty had to get that [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► Burt Reynolds references [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► I never gonna leave that Helen Hunt [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► would marry Paul Reiser so I consider [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► that also science fiction [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► haha they were mad I they were out he [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► generally literally insane you have [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► actually it turned out in the final [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► yes I Scott is there a sitcom you would [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► like to speak of positively or [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► negatively [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► well I think we should accentuate the [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► positive [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► ok so I'm going to talk about that [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► something is not actually a sitcom but [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► you know screamin rules down that's [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► that's not goes job over it go ahead [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► Scott going as i'm sorry the gods i [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► define sanity for the rest of the [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► universe but continued all right there [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► I what mystery science theater is that [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► this is not a sitcom I suppose but it is [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► it is one of my favorite shows and how [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► could I say no to mst3k you cannot [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► resist a crow T robot and Tom server so [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► since it is clear no one on this podcast [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► is heard of mystery science theater [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► no let me have it really not already a [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► try to kill me with oracle it [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► olay I'm sorry just broken through like [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► a whole ball of like means i have not [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► reused like 10 years observed gotta hold [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► I got abused my microphone i was it's [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► stayin out from Cal Manos the hands of [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► torgo's technically that translate that [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► hands hands of faith [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► so mr. sighs there clearly is a beloved [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► show that we must talk about and for PBS [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► not know what it is a a all five of them [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► it is a younger crowd might not mean now [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► it's only on the [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► be back in the day every Saturday it was [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► on first Comedy Central and then on the [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► SyFy channel that's right and a movie as [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► well yes and there was there was one [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► movie and it there are all on DVD and [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► many of them are on netflix now [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► yes so you should you should really [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► watch somebody way so the basic premise [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► a guy is shot into space on the set of a [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► ship called the satellite of love you [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► cut its kinda like you're asking us all [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► to like sing the theme song is this [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► instead of that is classic theme songs [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► that sets up the entire premise for the [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► it's true industry [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► and the not too distant future next [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► Sunday ad there was a hole and I thought [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► into different from you would be working [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► for your studies on it is dude just [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► another kid okay that suit he did a good [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► job picking up the pace but it was [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► positive and i will send the GZ movie [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► whatever you two really can't right now [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► and have to sit and why them all and [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► will bother to is mine now you la no [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► skid in Milan Joel character role and [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► the movies begin or and because he used [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► those special heart robotic Fred a robot [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► roll call camp i bought from tipsy Tom [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► servo grow if you're wondering how he [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► eats and breathes and other science [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► facts just repeating yourself 5000 know [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► I should really just 3 lakhs for Mystery [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► Science Theater 3000 [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► that is this that is the furthest off [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► track this podcast has ever gotten in 93 [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► episodes and and off he well that's all [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► the time we have tonight and wash my god [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► you're not getting this one this is all [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► just a premise for them to watch [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► terrible movies and make fun of them [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► though that is that is correct so that [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► they watch a very cheap movies that they [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► could gain the rights for cheaply and [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► mock them mercilessly and then cut them [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► up with a skits in the beginning they [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► would do things called invention [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► exchanges where Joel would have to show [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► his evil overlords invention and they [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► would in turn show him an invention [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► which you really make any sense but they [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► did it they did away with that part it's [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► just it's a lot of fun i watched it in [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► college [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► it started off on a public access TV [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► show people would circulate videotapes [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► so that other people could see hit this [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► is before they encouraged it in the [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► credits a dip circulating the tapes [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► that's right and there's even there's a [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► great uh if you could find it an [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► authorized kind of mst3k a spoof of [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► assembly spoof it's an homage that does [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► star trek five if you can find that you [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► probably can't on the internets it is [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► fantastic [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► they have everything on the internet [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► radio but yeah and and Tom servo is [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► really a role model of mine and how I [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► want to live my life as a with a number [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► and Shakeology yeah [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► yes I had in college I was not very [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► popular and I had a giant Tom servo [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► poster on my door I don't think those [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► two things are related but the thing [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► that always got me about that show was [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► that a certain point after watching it [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► you started to wonder looking at the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► silhouettes whether they were looking at [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► the movie or looking at you because you [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► can tell they're two-dimensional just [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► like looking into the ability yeah I [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► remember that came to me at some point [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► when I was like look at it like oh my [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► god wait are they watching me [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► ah that is a really disturbing outlook [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► on life and mst3k that I never thought [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► about dan thanks [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► that now you won't be able to unsee it [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► like the arrow no logo [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► well it's kind of a reflection back on [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► the television show because if they're [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► you know if they're commenting on the [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► terrible movie but they're also looking [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► at you and you're watching them [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► commenting on the to my mind was just [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► blown i love the I mean the premise of [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► it by having the silhouette to do to do [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► riffing on movies was not not really new [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► but to do it and come up with this [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► premise so that they could do initially [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► the this the comedy sketches that would [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► be the episodes were ways for joel [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► hodgson to do his can prop comedy bit [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► and but those so those are strange and [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► funny on their own and then when they're [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► in the movie with the silhouettes you [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► always do when you're flipping around [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► that it was mst3k cuz you can see the [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► silhouettes and what I really like is [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► that they would try to do little bits [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► where they interacted and I always loved [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► it when Joel or later Mike would get up [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► and reach up and stand like tried to [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► scratch the cheek of somebody in a [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► close-up [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► I always thought that was hilarious too [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► so it was just such an inventive premise [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► and and you know it was to our in a two [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► hour long show too so there was a whole [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► lot in it and the thing that you always [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► had to sort of remind people of when [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► you're trying to get them hooked on this [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► show is that no no it's not like being [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► at the movie theater in those that were [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► really stupid 11 year old kids keeps [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► like things like you did your top of [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► lady you've got big knockers [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► it's it's actually a writing team that's [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► like far more than three people who [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► watches this movie time and time and [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► time again and develops a script in [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► which every singles available second is [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► filled with some sort of joke and their [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► hit to miss ratio ratio is incredibly [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► high and the references that they have [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► are incredibly good and they'll be [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► really was teenagers from outer space [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► there's like this big huge like round [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► saucer spaceship landing on a landing on [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► a thing and I think Joel says hey look [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► it's it's it's Audrey Hepburn's had some [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► definite breakfast at tiffany's coming [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► in for a landing [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► like that's a very hip reference if you [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► don't like a joke there's another one [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► coming right behind it [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► of course several of us in several of us [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► in in the comparable participated in a [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► brief spoof right we did that the [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► Phantom and the Phantom Empire [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► and unless I can't believe we're talking [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► about mst3k without Steve let's hear [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► since he has been like he's like a big [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► rifftrax guy and his met mike nelson and [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► but I mean the thing about that is andy [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► says like you know we we did about a [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► 20-minute episode and that was hardly [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► was writing that is really different [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► model harder than you think it is it see [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► all your jokes and threw away most of [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► the jokes and then and do them three or [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► four times they stop being as funny [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► sometimes because you've seen how three [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► or four times and you telegraphed all [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► the jokes are used but you still have to [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► deliver them like they're funny and [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► react to your friends lives occasionally [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► like they're it's super no nothing gave [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► me more of an appreciation for ms 333 k [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► been doing that rifftrax little short [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► and realizing just how like kind of [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► brutally hard it was to do it and how [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► much just you make the jokes you think [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► that's kind of funny i make it look like [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► i said something funny while we were [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► watching TV and then you try to actually [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► do it and no no those just got ninety [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► percent of them you just run away right [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► away just that now [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► not good and on top of that are you guys [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► like being it's like I don't think a [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► week or two goes by without my suddenly [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► thinking about it mystery science [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► theater joke at least one so even a joke [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► that I've just they haven't heard like [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► okay I got my friends and I have like [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► you know recurring ones that we always [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► talk about my never forget there's a [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► some short i don't know what the exact [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► shortage but it's got like a guy rocking [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► out on a chair on the porch like an old [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► guy you start swatting at the air in [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► front of home and that they don't get [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► visible [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► oh yeah they're back at that one that [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► one comes up all the time I loves it [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► shorts so does everybody is it before we [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► knew it we can't stand mst3k forever [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► although maybe we should come back into [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► a two-hour episode where we up a [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► favorite if we do maybe maybe maybe the [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► mist maybe they'll be like friends with [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► us and the like come on the show we can [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► get my Nelson on the show you given he's [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► got its new uh anybody have if you've [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► got favorite episodes of a favorite [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► favorite mst3k now would be the time to [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► mention it [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► I'll go first my favorite episode of [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► mst3k it's time of the Apes which is [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► fantastic because it is like Planet of [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► the Apes except it's it's a japanese [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► movie and the logic is that they people [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► are frozen in suspended animation and [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► they go into the future and then of [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► course Apes rule the earth and there's a [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► little kid little kid who every time you [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► say terrible things will happen if he [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► doesn't listen to you he says i don't [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► care which is nice running gag but the [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► but my favorite part is the plot [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► resolution at the end when they've done [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► movie length of apes they think how will [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► I end this now you know we can't do the [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► statue of liberty or anything like that [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► was done by the movie we're not going up [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► so what they do is they go back to the [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► cryo chamber and they freeze the people [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► back in the crowd cheering but i thought [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► well this is an interesting choice but [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► they're going to go further into the [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► future and yet somehow the cryo chamber [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► takes them back in time to the present [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► day I don't know how that how could it [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► be any way of time of the apes that is [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► my favorite all-time and misty 3k it's a [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► it's a close tie for me between Mitchell [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► and perhaps one of general last episodes [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► and of course my my my my my my my God [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► we're gonna rip off the end of Key Largo [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► Mitchell up to 35 miles per hour [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► um it's a milestone episodes and jewels [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► last as Giants absolutely escape [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► satellite of love in a box of em dinners [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► and a close tie between that and one of [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► my favorite Christmas movies ever [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► santa claus conquers the martians oh [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► yeah yes that's an excellent young p [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► Isadora an excellent episode I'm going [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► to go by myself a Golden Globe my [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► favorite uh that just popped into my [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► mind is overdrawn at the memory banks [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► with raul julia features the line mom my [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► nuts they say that to me know very [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► recent and it becomes a ship [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► Wow Andy ever i have i have to go with [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► maroon because it's it's it's it's [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► really you normally the the movies that [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► they got to riff for geez he's like [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► american international really really [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► horribly low-budget pictures this is the [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► first 1i think where they got an [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► actual like major studio release that [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► got lots and lots of big-budget i think [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► actually was nominated for actually won [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► an academy award for best the best [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► visual effects and it started gene [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► hackman like at the right road shortly [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► after after his breakthrough so that was [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► the premise of the movie was like an [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► Apollo like 19 mission prep star like a [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► Skylab type mission like things start to [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► break down so they try to like bring the [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► astronauts back down with their [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► malfunctions and the entire movie is all [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► about how we rescue these three [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► astronauts so it's actually and actually [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► saw the original movie which was not a [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► terrible movie but when they get this [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► going to get something that's actually [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► enter twitter when you take us to me [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► start with a movie that's actually [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► entertaining to begin with and then you [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► add like eight comedians spending two [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► days trying to make it even funnier [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► that's pretty good and also and also [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► that makes they talk about callbacks [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► that just fill the rest of your life [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► there's so many lines from history [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► science 3000 that could good i could [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► fill a great one hour seminar valuable [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► seminar in filmmaking and one of them is [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► just when Thompson it's a running gag [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► retirement with we're at times keep [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► saying gene hackman is always good that [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► will deliver like that its beginning the [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► movie it's like like okay artoo [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► pressures at one-point-five percent [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► Oh gene hackman is always get it's true [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► gene Hackman is always good that's that [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► that would be my favorite Mitchell would [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► probably if I thought eventual first I [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► probably would have been cursing for [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► taking Mitchell first I didn't think [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► Mitchell first ran ru ru deep in the [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► knowledge of the mst3k or not very deep [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► in the knowledge of mst3k i am when i [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► will at college they had like a weekly [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► mst3k night which I would swing in and [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► out of I'm trying to remember some of [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► the film's I mean manos was the first [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► mst3k episode I ever watched and that I [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► mean to protect that's like yeah that's [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► a classic mostly because that film is [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► unwatchable without the right I had a I [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► had an orgo screensaver 1.0 i have a [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► screensaver you [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► yeah that's the guy that's dating us [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► there and you said you didn't have [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► friends [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► I had to work on what I actually ya know [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► there's actually a movie that I i had [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► seen um I i had seen before it was mst3k [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► did called the unearthly with John [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► Carradine and Tory Johnson and that's [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► and to this day actually my wife and i [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► quote a line from that movie that that [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► is what the little tag that they did at [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► the end of the credits in fact when they [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► didn't mess 383 t3k which is it learned [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► too late [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► that man is using creature top time for [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► go to bed [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► Oh for Johnson the idea and the in the [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► feature film itself [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► mst3k feature film was actually pretty [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► good as well this island earth person is [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► under greediness as everyone with yeah I [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► feel like we've just created like a mini [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► episode of inside inside this other [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► episodes or bonus episode we see the dmu [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► mcnoltey i'm sorry i felt it had to be [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► said it didn't have to be so because [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► otherwise we'd be talking about the big [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► banks sorry it's not it's not it's not a [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► sitcom [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► so you lose definite no points for [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► McNulty no no no negative points [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► Andy did you come bearing a show that [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► you would like to talk about [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► yes alt i'll name the two finalists [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► before talking about the one I chose I [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► at first thought I was gonna go deep [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► catalog and talk about square peg Lou [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► you're talking about [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► no whoo that's that such a nicer yo I [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► didn't even think of that square pegs [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► yeah it's a nice deep catalog selection [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► it was more about more about geeks and [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► nerds because we're talking about the [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► the central characters were like it's [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► takes place in we high school social [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► outcast or try to become part of the [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► part of the popular clique and it really [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► was plug if you were like in high school [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► in the eighties either you were one of [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► the four central characters here or you [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► knew one of the four central characters [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► were trying not to be one of the four [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► central characters in this thing because [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► they the the prophetess Iike it was [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► produced by and beats was a former [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► writer on Saturday Night Live so they do [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► you get things like [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► Estep suggest episodes with Bill Murray [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► devo played one of the characters bar [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► mitzvahs during an episode so it any [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► sitcom that has Divo as a guest star [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► ok that's gonna that's gonna be a great [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► one I was thinking about clerks the [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► animated series also pretty brilliant [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► 446 episode run [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► yeah and I was pretty shocked that they [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► got candy i think what they aired one [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► episode and then didn't air like any of [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► this is they produced that was gonna be [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► a hard show itself that's true because [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► if it really was like the flag that [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► clerks the movie you know the original [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► movie all those characters they expanded [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► they expanded the show by having like a [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► Leonardo the evil like land developer [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► who runs the old town we are two girls [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► in corozal 22i know Alan Rickman don't [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► know I thought I don't overthink it [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► because he had that wonderful voice and [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► it's also it's also a good one to pick [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► up not only because it's kevin smith for [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► production but also every city there are [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► voluminous commentary tracks on every [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► episode so it's sort of like everyone is [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► where there's a smart cast with your [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► arms also watching a cartoon while [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► you're listening to the smodcast but i [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► really felt as though I couldn't [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► although i was prepared to defend big [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► bang theory I don't get it if we're [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► talking for talking about Kiki sitcoms [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► you really have to start in the list [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► with futurama I don't think there's ever [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► been a television show as geeky as [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► futurama in terms of how deep a lot of [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► these references go where bender the [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► robot drinks old a bear called old [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► fortran they have an entire episode [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► that's based on what if the future and [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► the universe was done as a 32-bit or [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► 8-bit video game so all the animation is [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► done like an 8-bit graphics there is an [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► entire episode so I had a I had to go [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► look this up so let's let the record [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► show that i am a consulting reference [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► for this but they did an entire episode [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► that you've seen you've seen the idea of [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► a body swap like sort of a sitcom plot [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► before like in science fiction and stuff [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► like that [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► this one to the the joke here is that [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► all the cast of characters keep like [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► doing body swap to get [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► I was little jams until like they don't [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► know how to end that there's a [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► limitation on the machine where once [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► someone has been swapped once they can't [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► swap again to someone who's already been [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► swamped and so because one of their [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► riders and here's more Greek credibility [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► greater credibility one of the writers [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► is actually a PhD mathematician he came [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► up with an entire mathematical proof [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► proving that under the limitations of [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► this machine there is never any point [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► under which it is impossible to put [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► everybody back in their original bodies [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► using a maximum number of bringing into [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► people from the outside who have never [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► been swapped before and this actual [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► proof they don't think that's not like [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► that's not like a joke element of the [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► plot it is an actual worked out proof [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► that actually is actually displayed on a [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► chalkboard so if you are a PhD [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► mathematician you would look at that [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► chalkboard and say gosh darn it that it [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► that does actually work out a freeze [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► frame that on my blu ray/dvd I've wasted [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► two days of my life confirming it but [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► yes I'm willing to kind i'm willing to [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► judge this paper and and Ben and and [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► certify the UN fact our doctor but on [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► top of all the really like cool and [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► funny surface references i sometimes I [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► i'm a big fan of the show and sometimes [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► I have a hard time convincing myself [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► that there's ever been a better animated [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► series ever because in terms of the [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► quality being consistent for episode [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► episode also in terms of the writers the [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► producers never shying away from doing [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► something the really really hard way [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► where you can see we're family guy they [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► would do do is really stupid obvious [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► retreaded joke and get out of there with [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► the simpsons still a funny show i'm [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► still a fan but they would figure out [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► that oh man we really don't want to get [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► involved in this do we so let's just [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► pursue this for five minutes and find a [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► way to abort and go on to the next thing [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► futurama with my favorite episodes of [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► future of not just futurama but any TV [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► sitcom ever a TV show ever was a [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► so-called God fellas where the joke is [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► that bender the robot gets shot out into [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► space like towards the Sun and he's been [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► the the Planet Express crew feel so he's [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► lost forever because he's just been shot [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► way the hell of a deep space that they [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► don't know where he is and I know how to [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► get back to him [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► and meanwhile microbes on his robot body [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► have started to like grow and evolve [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► into sentient like tiny tiny microscopic [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► beings and they regard bender as a god [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► and that's a good setup for about 5-10 [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► minutes of jokes about okay well bender [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► the most selfish creation of the entire [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► worth of course he's going to have the [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► load while I'm where I am your god I [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► demand that you build a brewery so that [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► I can have beer to drink while I'm lost [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► in space but they go through all those [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► sort of sort of things but then they pay [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► off to the end where the colony sort of [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► kills himself because divided into [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► factions because i don't think they [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► don't agree on how best to worship [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► bender and he realizes that arm and I [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► tried to like rescue them i tried to [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► save them nothing works then he finally [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► winds up almost at the end of the [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► universe confronting it incidentally [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► confronting feature that creature that [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► may or may not be God and this creature [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► toxin binary code so was a bender can [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► understand them and they have a Congress [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► and obviously he's been in this God [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► business a lot longer than vendor has [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► and as well you know yeah I know you [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► tried but sometimes the best thing to do [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► is if you use a light hand and sometimes [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► if you if you know if you know you've [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► been doing your job well they'll even [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► questioned even exist to begin with and [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► at the end of the end it by the end of [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► the episode you realize that my goodness [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► this is like a whole year course in [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► theology and this is everything this is [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► everything investment because like every [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► single heavy discussion about the nature [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► of God and why it's not necessary to [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► know that there is absolute proof of God [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► to suspect that a God exists [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► you know what what is that what is the [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► sort of God that you would believe in [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► what you believe that there is a God [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► that simply doesn't want to get involved [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► it is very much a a day instead of a [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► theist version of God the fact that i [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► know the difference between days and [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► theism can use them in this episode [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► demonstrates how much work they put into [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► like actually prosecuting every idea to [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► its fullest so from surface level stuff [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► 24 found turn off the TV and wonder [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► about the existence of it all stuff I [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► really don't think there's ever going to [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► be no the TV show that can at least top [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► it so we're going i will promise this to [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► the great incomparable listing onions we [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► will do a whole episode about futurama [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► at a later date and Glenn's Fleischman [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► is crying somewhere that and he just [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► spent all this time talking about [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► futurama and Glenn's not on the podcast [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► because [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► his favorite show so we will do a whole [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► we were talking about futurama episode [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► and now I'm i found somebody else who [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► could be a guest at haha are also i [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► should say that I i previously [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► disqualify the animated series and [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► therefore i would bring down the hammer [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► and disqualify any here except i have [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► with allowing Scott to talk about mst3k [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► which isn't even a sitcom not completely [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► lost control of the podcast so I give up [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► great and thank you for picking futurama [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► so i wanted to talk about their to [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► sometimes I want to bring up one is the [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► one that I'm going to I'm going to [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► promote here and then I think I think we [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► we do need to actually discuss the other [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► one before we go so community [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► yeah I have to bring up and of course as [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► we all know now community has a we got [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► the one-two punch of community being [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► renewed for a fourth season to get it up [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► to a more syndicated below number of [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► episodes and as a part of that they also [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► fired the Dan Harmon who is the creator [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► and showrunner and sort of the madman [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► who made that show presumably made that [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► show what it was and replaced him with [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► some other guys who I'm sure going to [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► try their very best to make a funny show [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► but are not the guy who essentially made [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► it was so yay and boo but I regardless [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► of what happens in that fourth season of [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► community we have the first three and [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► this is a show that on one level is I [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► mean it is a geeky show in that it [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► always had popular culture references [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► from day one the first episode is the [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► breakfast club references especially [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► come fast and furious and so it always [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► had a referential nerdy kind of approach [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► but and of course the character of our [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► bed is from the beginning a giant media [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► nerd and and makes lots of cultural [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► references himself but over the course [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► of the three years this is a show that [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► did one of the very best depictions of [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► dungeons and dragons in television [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► yes in the episode advanced dungeons and [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► dragons as every episode is named sort [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► of like a college course what else do [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► they do they did remedial chaos theory [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► the third season which is the episode [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► where the rolling of ass excited dye [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► leads to seven different timelines from [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► the darkest timeline where I had and [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► horrible garden gnome is eaten by one of [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► the characters while it's on fire and [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► somebody's arm gets cut off and people [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► are burned and it's terrible [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► all to just did to the one that ends up [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► becoming me with the real time line at [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► the end which is much nicer timeline [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► because Joel McHale character is sent to [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► the pizza guy instead of everyone else [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► going to the piece of pizza guy great [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► fantastic episode don't forget the 8-bit [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► 8-bit video game episode right with you [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► a game episode [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► yeah so good so unsurprisingly out of [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► nowhere good and cribs its plot from [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► ready player one [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► yeah things you actually about indeed a [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► better a better depiction of ready [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► player one only one who like that [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► ready player one sorry I seasons of [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► paintball fighting the ball and first [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► one of the greatest action movie oh ma [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► jizz ever ever done [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► yes my generation pass christmas special [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► my dinner with Abed yeah yeah the [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► recurring Inspector Spacetime which is [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► it about as loving a doctor who [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► oh my gosh as one would ever expect to [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► find on mainstream american television [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► and of course the Dreamatorium which [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► makes all things three-minute Orion [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► which is the holodeck is a room painted [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► like the next generation holodeck where [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► Troy and Abed I have their own imaginary [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► playtime and then there's the episode [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► where any and all better in the [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► Dreamatorium right that he's which is [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► one of those last episodes so you know I [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► I don't know they're so so much [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► there is so much because it is their [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► individual episodes that go over the top [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► and then sprinkled throughout just [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► incredible number of of funny references [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► a never never get the sense that the [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► show is full is laughing at the [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► nerdiness as much as embracing it and [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► loving it and it and it's a show with a [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► with a [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► a good heart or at least as good a harsh [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► a show can have when Chevy Chase is on [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► it 00 [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► the thing I really like about this show [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► is that at its heart you basically have [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► a bunch of archetypal characters [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► I mean you get them flushed out to a [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► certain extent but I episode to episode [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► the theme of the group was more or less [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► the same already did [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► there are these people who have come [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► together by sort of uh unwilling means [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► and have developed sort of a community [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► and if hey and a friendship from that [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► and and I when I first started watching [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► the show in the back of my head first [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► thought was I do not understand how this [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► show keeps on being on television but i [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► love it and then the second thought was [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► basically they're just taking these [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► characters and throwing them into the [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► wackiest different situation they can [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► per episode and if you look at it almost [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► as like a you know [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► clapping clapping characters in [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► different situations and be like alright [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► play with this see how this goes [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► let's have fun it's it's not as if this [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► sitcom it didn't work as a sitcom there [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► are episodes that are very much more [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► mainstream because they went off format [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► a lot but they also stayed on format [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► alot and those episodes are good too and [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► have funny interesting and I'm kind of [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► geeky things to talk about to so it [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► wasn't as if this is a show i'm talking [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► about in past tense it you know it it's [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► it will be back without Dan Harmon but [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► it wasn't fair it's more like the fourth [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► season of coupling but that was actually [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► often actually did the fourth season of [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► coupling so I don't think we can say [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► that I what I thought mentioned coupling [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► to anyway so so but the show it didn't [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► just work when it when it did the crazy [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► weird episodes i think i think that the [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► characters were strong and and for a [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► show with seven a sitcom with seven [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► characters one of the amazing things [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► about community is that I think you can [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► draw a line between all any of those two [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► characters and seis if you watch the [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► first three seasons and say something [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► about the relationship between those [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► characters that it's not as if you know [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► those characters are dynamic and they [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► they have an interesting interaction [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► with every other member of the ensemble [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► which is hard to do i think especially [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► in a [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► sitcom with as many wacky things in it [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► and I appreciate the that as israel says [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► you know the love these characters [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► started is kind of you know archetypes [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► are shades if you want to be less [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► generous personally my favorite [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► character but i think is involved the [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► most since the beginning is Troy who [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► started out as very much sort of the [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► jock character yeah he was the captain [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► of the football team right go to contend [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► and that is you know you see how that he [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► develops through three seasons and [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► especially when they get him to the [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► point where he and Abed basically become [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► you know best buddies and the [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► relationship between the two of them [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► ends up being I think one of the sort of [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► at the heart of the show in many ways [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► trying to bed in the morning [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► it just it is a it is a fantastic show [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► so if there's anybody out there who has [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► not seen community just go I i believe [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► that the first season's I don't know if [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► it's on netflix the first seasons on [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► itunes for cheap the other two aren't [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► cheap but the first one super cheap and [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► it's great great show you do you think [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► the bizarreness sometimes because it [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► makes it hard to find an entry point for [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► the series because that was the problem [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► i had with that I don't think it's a bad [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► series at all it's just that I think I [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► might have seen like you know how it is [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► like you just see cats like the last 10 [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► minutes of something with the last five [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► minutes or something while you're like [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► you know because your DVR with a little [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► bit too long or whatever or you just got [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► you know nothing to do on thursday [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► nights you have to catch what happened [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► to catch and it just never just never [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► got into it because I really couldn't [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► understand what I was seeing so i didn't [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► i didn't make any sort of a judgment on [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► it but it really made it more difficult [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► for me to say oh I really get that go [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► that's a really cool character wow I [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► really like how unpredictable that twist [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► was I just didn't figure it out enough [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► to want to see the next out so i think [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► that's one of the problems with the [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► show's accessibility I think that's one [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► of the reasons that number has had great [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► ratings and I i think as great as those [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► off format episodes are they [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► I don't know how accessible they are [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► they they they benefit greatly from you [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► knowing what the characters are and and [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► they can be quite bizarre and and the [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► first season has many more on format [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► episodes I do feel like at the end of [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► the first season they did the the [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► paintball episode and I felt like that [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► was a turning point in that they decided [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► this was great and they were going to do [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► more like that and the good news is [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► they're off format episodes generally [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► were great and not bad but they were [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► weird and off off the format you know it [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► could have gone really wrong where they [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► just decided in the third season there's [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► a point when they went on hiatus where I [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► feel like they just said they didn't [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► care anymore just gonna go too far as [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► far off the the plot as they as they [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► could and they wouldn't care but I think [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► that's a lie i think that harms its [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► accessibility to to have these kind of [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► bizarre tangential episodes but uh if [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► you if you start from the beginning I [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► think you would be rewarded it's a very [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► very very smart and funny show [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► I'm suddenly cursing myself because [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► talking about this way maybe suddenly [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► remember chris elliott and get a life [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► haha [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► because that which would be a good pick [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► for a blitz not getting so that's [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► another like half hour and of itself but [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► it had the exact same problem i love [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► that show was a wonderful show it was so [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► hard for [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► if you didn't know the chris elliott [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► character and also if you also didn't [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► know like bees the son of bob elliott [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► who he himself like it's part of Bob and [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► Ray if you didn't understand the whole [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► premise of bobbin raise comedy it's hard [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► to really get into it understand why are [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► these two guys to radio guys just having [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► a conversation about light bulbs why is [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► this so hysterically funny why are you [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► laughing at this you could you don't [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► understand is Bob and Ray there's [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► totally deconstructing this that ad you [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► laugh about like by-the-numbers sitcoms [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► but they really do make it easy for you [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► to figure out [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► orient yourself and figure out okay I [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► know what they're doing here [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► ok this is actually good for us for what [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► they're doing I remember stumbling on an [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► episode of get a life and and it was I [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► mean I knew Chris Elliott was from david [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► letterman bedroom it's an episode where [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► at the end he's sitting waiting for [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► somebody like outside of gate and and it [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► should show that keeps dissolving and he [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► gets old and then he's a skeleton at the [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► end of the episode he's dead he died the [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► idea about what two-thirds of the [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► episode yeah the crazy so so should we [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► talk about the big bang theory because I [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► but I feel like it's the elephant in the [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► room that therein in the chat room we [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► have people saying i can't wait for them [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► to to tear apart the big bang theory and [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► I i don't know i mean it is the show [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► that's about geeks and and geek culture [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► it is a sitcom [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► where the the four main characters four [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► of the five main characters i guess we [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► should say or 47 now are our geeky [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► gentlemen and and so I you know the [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► pilot i'll say this the pilot of the big [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► bang theory is maybe the worst sitcom [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► pilot I've ever seen ISIL I saw although [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► I saw the original pilot I they may have [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► actually shot some of it by i saw at the [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► summer the summer before it went on the [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► air i saw the original pilot was very [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► bad and yet I have to say having watched [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► a guy i think a tune back in later in [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► the first season after heard some people [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► praising it actually like the show I [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► actually think it's a perfectly good [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► serviceable CBS films in front of a live [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► studio audience [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► you know mainstream ish sitcom and I [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► don't think it I i I'd think it has more [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► love toward nerdiness and then it then [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► it it sort of makes them out to be the [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► butt of jokes i think there's more [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► affection too and i think it humanizes [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► them i think and i think there are lots [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► of very funny nerdy references in the [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► show which wouldn't I if this was [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► something that was a sanded down [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► no smart references just really using [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► these guys is as geeks to laugh at I [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► would feel differently about it but I [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► actually think for what it is which is a [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► very mainstream CBS sitcom I actually I [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► I like I I still watch it i have seen [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► every episode of that show i will i will [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► say I'm on I'm on the flipside only seen [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► like two episodes ever and mostly things [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► I just caught by accident [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► do not do not recall laughing at [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► everything much anything I saw in there [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► and also I don't know I i did not feel [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► that the show seemed as affectionate to [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► me in some ways not that it was mocking [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► doesn't like lead and well it's [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► impossible but it felt a little bit like [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► felt a little bit like ready player one [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► in that he was well I mean in that it [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► was kinda geeky and clearly the people [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► writing it had some you know had some [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► fondness for the subject matter but the [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► same time just trying too hard [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► I think [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► well it has it has the problem of the a [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► lot of seconds by the producer in that I [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► know there's gonna be at least five [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► crotch jokes i'm just not going to enjoy [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► it all [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► we just sort of see that drone coming [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► and saying oh god is going to be a [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► premature ejaculation joke here we just [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► get it over with let's move on to [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► something more from but i I've heard a [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► lot of complaints that it makes fun of [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► geeks instead of like making making [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► jokes from within that community and i [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► honestly believe that if you feel as if [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► you feel as though a geek can't take a [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► punch [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► stay inside on your comforter with your [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► inhaler and just being protective little [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► bit you that it's I think it's a [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► positive thing that it's okay to make [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► fun of this part of humanity that were [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► that were that much a that were there [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► that the prominent member of society [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► that we can be made fun of just like you [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► know the the just like the job can be [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► made fun of just because just like the [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► the elite rich snobby made fun of and [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► also i really do think that mostly humor [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► does come from a good place where they [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► will go for some of the cheap jokes from [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► time to time but at the same time you [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► know let's deliver the Leonard is really [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► the emotional core the intellectual core [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► of the entire show in that he you know [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► he does he does have a problem digesting [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► digesting dairy products but he's also [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► the guy who really will reach out to [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► other characters and help them along [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► he's the guy who is it's not just oh I'm [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► an area i can't have I will Pyun after [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► the blood across the room across the [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► hall but I will never be able to cook do [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► follow through anything because i'm such [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► a nerd [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► no he actually you know goes through [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► what he thinks his weaknesses are he [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► also defends himself for his strengths [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► army with he was proud of the fact that [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► he will argue about our argument a movie [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► or argue about certain complex character [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► and I i just and it's just a lot of [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► really good smart humor and top of it [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► the the scene that could the scene that [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► really really got me that really got me [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► hooked was an opening opening episode [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► black up before the first commercial in [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► which they've all got the whiteboard out [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► there trying to solve the problem of [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► which will how can all fall for them [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► find a movie theater that can says that [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► as the movie movie they want to play the [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► right THX sound system the right kandi [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► the right everything so that everything [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► all these variables can be conglomerated [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► a solution to be found and announcements [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► diagrams are being discharged being done [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► and then suddenly letter just said look [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► at the port says you know there really [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► is only one solution to this problem and [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► need silence CSC Sheldon another three [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► of them leave and leave them behind [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► realize that Sheldon is the reason why [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► they can't figure out how to do that so [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► as as the audience is laughing and [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► shoulders watching the retreat he looks [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► back to the board and he just says [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► you're absolutely right there for this [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► really was the only solution available [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► yet you know it's and the show is [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► evolved to I the the characters are are [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► not kind of encased in amber like yet [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► like different of the word season one [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► yesterday that they've evolved except [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► for shelter but you're right but that's [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► his deal and even even he has evolved to [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► a certain extent but it's you know it [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► it's an interesting dynamic the adding [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► the other women characters and i think [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► is actually a I'm fascinated by a short [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► I sort of feel like they've created a [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► parallel show within their own show with [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► a with the the women characters [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► interacting with each other as well as [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► the men and the women and their [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► relationships together that it's it's [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► really taking me by surprise because [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► like i said i saw the pilot I thought it [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► was bad [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► I for whatever reason heard that it [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► wasn't may be so bad and tuned in and [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► have been witnessed it evolved you know [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► again I don't want to give it a [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► backhanded compliment by saying it you [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► know it's a mainstream to come it is in [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► that format and yet within that format i [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► think it does a lot very well and is is [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► you know generally respectful the the [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► references they make are right the [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► things that the the characters care [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► about that are geeky whether it's comics [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► or TV or or video games that you know [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► there are things that that geeky people [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► actually do care about and to argue [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► about and they don't resolve them [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► incorrectly there there are like with [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► futurama where there are insanely nerdy [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► things that are right like what [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► including diagrams on a chalkboard big [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► bang theory [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► we you know it feels like it gets that [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► stuff right and it it and a it would be [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► very easy to not care and get it wrong [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► and go for things that were incredibly [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► broad and wrong because we're really [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► just laughing at these people and it [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► doesn't do that so so much to my [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► surprise I have to say it is and you [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► know continues to be a pretty a pretty [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► good show i think it may be the only [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► completely standard multi-camera sitcom [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► show that i watch in family at this [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► point i would start just throw out a [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► corresponding one which is also a CVS [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► multi-camera I'm that i would argue is [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► fairly geeky which is how i met your [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► mother [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► yeah it's it's like it's it you know [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► what I think how i met your mother is [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► geeky because it's a sitcom with [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► continuity [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► well it's also how I mean to be fair [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► they had an entire episode that's about [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► watching that's about watching the Star [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► Wars trilogy [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► I'm sorry entire episode about that they [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► have many many episodes only marriage [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► like Star Wars so well I mean but like [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► that that make an appointment to watch [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► it every three years and they mark their [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► life I've ever what happened every time [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► they watch the Star Wars trilogy and at [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► one point Ted like wants to break up [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► with a girl who hasn't seen Star Wars I [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► mean you know it's not super geeky but I [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► think there are a lot of geeky [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► references in you know and it in some [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► ways it some more [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► it's a less stereotypical version of [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► geekery which is to say they do geeky [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► things but they are not necessarily [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► defined by their geekery right although [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► actually a real Patrick Harris character [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► although he has a lothario and he has a [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► stormtrooper he's a gigantic nerd is [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► underneath it all [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► this is true those the two shows on CBS [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► that I had that I want Lincoln with a to [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► lincoln with Andy's a comment earlier [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► chris elliott also appears as a [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► recurring role as alyson hannigan's [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► father not to mention back several [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► character you know several actors in [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► that show who are well known for being [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► on extremely geeky television shows such [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► as Neil Patrick Harris alyson hannigan [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► jason segel you know right that's a [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► lotta there's a lot of geek tie-ins with [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► that so I I think you could make a [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► strong case for yes Jason Segel who is [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► in freaks and geeks would be although [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► not a sitcom a fantastic show with the [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► other i think my other favorite dungeons [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► and dry [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► hands now reference Carlos work it yes i [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► am the designation for me about Kiki [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► sitcoms is really if you were to remove [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► the geeky elements from the sitcom would [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► still be an enjoyable show and would you [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► still go out of your way to walk [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► still go out of your way to walk [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► jet and foremost every one of them on my [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► list i could say yeah you take out i [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► mean these elements are fun and they [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► enrich the experience but you take the [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► geek out of community and it's still a [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► show about interesting characters who [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► happened to have interesting things you [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► take the geek out of space and you still [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► have you know a group of friends who [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► loves each other very much and get into [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► shenanigans whether or not they begin [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► influence to nature you take the geek [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► out of like big bang theory i don't know [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► i don't know [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► yeah well if you take a geek out a big [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► bang theory you have a sitcom about a [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► blonde woman from Nebraska who lives in [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► an apartment across the hall from an [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► empty apartment the less interesting [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► have but probably funnier isn't a little [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► bit like saying taking taking the army [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► out of mesh the worst was the worst [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► episodes to master the ones word really [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► became hey lets it looks like we work at [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► a brewery let's challenge the other [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► brewery to a bowling match and [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► everything they really did an episode of [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► my favorite episode of I Love Laverne [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► and Shirley what wide appeal [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► Mazel a big bang theory is awful by the [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► way so fast haha i want to say yes but [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► now let it out Scott let it out let it [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► all hang out so i cannot say this [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► scientifically since I've only sat [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► through four episodes because I felt [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► that as a geek I should watch the big [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► bang theory which i think is their [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► twisted way of getting me to what's [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► wrong [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► shame on them it is it is shameful and [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► it I you know I have no I think it's a [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► authentic right they get the geek stuff [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► right [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► I was I didn't have any nerd rage about [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► you know great lanter doesn't wear that [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► ring out in when it's al Jordan know [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► that was off the table and you didn't [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► feel a hey they're making fun of me no I [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► just felt like just offended by the [TS]