The Incomparable

89: Also Known as Endor


00:00:00   the incomparable podcast number 89 made [TS]

00:00:11   went well [TS]

00:00:15   we're back on the uncomfortable when you [TS]

00:00:16   last heard us we were talking about [TS]

00:00:18   return of the jedi and it true to form [TS]

00:00:21   we've got about 42 minutes into the [TS]

00:00:23   movie and it took us an hour to get [TS]

00:00:25   there but we're back to talk about the [TS]

00:00:27   rest of return of the jedi and joining [TS]

00:00:30   me as they did in our previous [TS]

00:00:31   installment are my guess is already [TS]

00:00:34   called well hello hello [TS]

00:00:36   many Bothans died to bring me here damn [TS]

00:00:38   Warren is also joining us hi Dan [TS]

00:00:40   oh I think you find this podcast is [TS]

00:00:43   totally operate I Jason and and John [TS]

00:00:49   siracusa if the trap the emperor has [TS]

00:00:51   made a critical error in this podcast [TS]

00:00:53   continues if critical critical area and [TS]

00:00:56   i don't think i mentioned i'm jason sell [TS]

00:00:58   your host and we had we had last week [TS]

00:01:02   sort of like Yoda and Ben had had goaded [TS]

00:01:04   I'd and Ben Kenobi had proven that he [TS]

00:01:07   was kind of a liar from a certain point [TS]

00:01:08   I think ironically enough that is [TS]

00:01:10   actually where my where the laserdisc [TS]

00:01:12   you have to flip it flip it over there [TS]

00:01:14   it's not quite halfway through but it's [TS]

00:01:16   it's you know we're making our way [TS]

00:01:18   it's an act break so when we when we [TS]

00:01:21   move to the next the next scene we are [TS]

00:01:23   back in a it's essentially Death Star [TS]

00:01:25   university again we're back with a with [TS]

00:01:28   the rebels we have a briefing annan they [TS]

00:01:31   have a plan involving going to the [TS]

00:01:33   forest moon of Endor they have way [TS]

00:01:35   better Holograms this time and what's [TS]

00:01:37   funny is this is really setting up the [TS]

00:01:38   action the rest of this movie is one big [TS]

00:01:42   sequence of parallel action things based [TS]

00:01:47   on this raid on Death Star so we've got [TS]

00:01:51   here we got admiral ackbar who appears [TS]

00:01:54   who will who will later discovered that [TS]

00:01:56   it's a trap but here he doesn't know it [TS]

00:01:58   yet and he gives a briefing and they can [TS]

00:02:03   see that dog opening the forest moon of [TS]

00:02:05   Endor is anyone else confused about the [TS]

00:02:08   i was confused for many years before the [TS]

00:02:10   internet set me straight about what [TS]

00:02:12   well well well the internets a suit [TS]

00:02:14   scared straight about Endor hit you know [TS]

00:02:17   endures referred to what what it is the [TS]

00:02:20   forest moon of Endor is referred to by [TS]

00:02:22   seven different things is end or the [TS]

00:02:24   name of the planet the moon is it [TS]

00:02:26   orbiting is under the name of the Moon [TS]

00:02:27   what is the name of the planets orbiting [TS]

00:02:29   it's very confusing in this movie I [TS]

00:02:31   think basically because they didn't [TS]

00:02:33   think it through because if you if you [TS]

00:02:34   look on the internet you will learn the [TS]

00:02:36   truth and the truth is all so confusing [TS]

00:02:37   and bake which is to say that endures [TS]

00:02:39   actually some other planet [TS]

00:02:40   I assume that the indoor is like a gas [TS]

00:02:42   like a gas giant and and this is a moon [TS]

00:02:45   that's forested and circles around the [TS]

00:02:48   gas giant planet of Endor that right so [TS]

00:02:53   here's what the width look at the [TS]

00:02:54   wookieepedia eight-wicket wikipedia or [TS]

00:02:57   Wikipedia what's the wikipedia says [TS]

00:02:59   endure in parentheses also known as the [TS]

00:03:02   forest moon of Endor and the sanctuary [TS]

00:03:04   moon was a small parcel moon orbiting [TS]

00:03:07   the gas giant planet Endor haha [TS]

00:03:09   Jason was surprised so how can endure be [TS]

00:03:12   a small forest moon orbiting the giant [TS]

00:03:15   gas giant planet of Endor it's like [TS]

00:03:16   endure to the end or two like you like [TS]

00:03:19   you having for technically it's not [TS]

00:03:20   endure that was the forest moon of Endor [TS]

00:03:22   it is the planet endorse forest moon the [TS]

00:03:25   sanctuary moon of Endor but basically [TS]

00:03:28   the sentence says that end or is [TS]

00:03:30   orbiting indoor well I think it's [TS]

00:03:31   commonly called and/or but it's not [TS]

00:03:33   actually and/or exactly that's why it's [TS]

00:03:35   confusing because the short-term rentals [TS]

00:03:37   buffalo Buffalo buffalo yeah the [TS]

00:03:41   shortened version of the name refers to [TS]

00:03:43   the thing that is orbiting yes which i [TS]

00:03:44   always like to throw back to a at [TS]

00:03:46   there's the it's a moon that's the moon [TS]

00:03:48   his moon [TS]

00:03:50   nevermind it's a modern and endure [TS]

00:03:52   endure as Liz mentioned in the Bible far [TS]

00:03:56   out [TS]

00:03:57   there's eight there's a witch a witch of [TS]

00:03:59   endor do you mean George Lucas got his [TS]

00:04:02   name's from other pieces of literature [TS]

00:04:03   and and plain English words Elyon [TS]

00:04:06   sleazebag oh no I mean that clearly this [TS]

00:04:09   was a long time ago and that's the Bible [TS]

00:04:11   took inspiration a story from universe [TS]

00:04:14   far far away see if there is the rank or [TS]

00:04:16   monster you see rank or also also [TS]

00:04:19   there's the is that is the doctor robot [TS]

00:04:23   from empire in this seem too or is it [TS]

00:04:25   just another yes the back to the back to [TS]

00:04:28   robot is standing in the back he hasn't [TS]

00:04:30   people seriously we got out he got out [TS]

00:04:33   of Hazor they went back for him later [TS]

00:04:35   and tell where there's another one [TS]

00:04:36   because they're draw his [TS]

00:04:38   mass-produced yeah i like to think that [TS]

00:04:40   it's the same guy is like boy they got [TS]

00:04:43   me out of there that's good i didn't [TS]

00:04:44   want to work for the Empire I like the [TS]

00:04:45   book the good guys and the bad guys have [TS]

00:04:47   British officers seems it seems fair [TS]

00:04:49   yeah I'm British Empire well I enjoy uh [TS]

00:04:51   I enjoyed my favorite being you know we [TS]

00:04:53   have mon mothma comes out here right [TS]

00:04:54   never addressed my name but she comes [TS]

00:04:56   out she talks a little bit she looks [TS]

00:04:57   very sad when she talks about how [TS]

00:04:58   boffins died and then she's like Admiral [TS]

00:05:00   Ackbar please an admiral ackbar walks [TS]

00:05:02   out now if you watch her expressions is [TS]

00:05:04   entirely and she's staring at admiral [TS]

00:05:06   ackbar being like what the hell is wrong [TS]

00:05:09   with that guy great it he's got a squid [TS]

00:05:12   head there's just one I talked like okay [TS]

00:05:14   very vaguely freaked out and I read an [TS]

00:05:16   interview with that actress at some [TS]

00:05:18   point was just going I didn't know what [TS]

00:05:20   the hell is going on the key select ok i [TS]

00:05:22   went up there and said them another guy [TS]

00:05:24   with a fish he came up so I i mentioned [TS]

00:05:28   this on twitter I'll mention here [TS]

00:05:29   there's a really funny podcast with Joe [TS]

00:05:32   Posnanski his sports writer and can and [TS]

00:05:34   can't tremendous I should call Michael [TS]

00:05:36   sure who's the showrunner for the NBC [TS]

00:05:39   sitcom parks and recreation and they did [TS]

00:05:41   a they did a a a pad podcast where they [TS]

00:05:44   do [TS]

00:05:44   among other things silly drafts not [TS]

00:05:49   saying that that was an inspiration but [TS]

00:05:51   hundreds on trying to shift the blame i [TS]

00:05:53   love podcast with silly drafts anyway [TS]

00:05:55   they did a silly draft of their favorite [TS]

00:05:56   Star Wars characters which was which was [TS]

00:05:59   funny and i'll put in the show notes and [TS]

00:06:00   I i recommend to the last first asked [TS]

00:06:02   about baseball in the second half is [TS]

00:06:04   about Star Wars characters i recommend [TS]

00:06:05   the second half for people who listen to [TS]

00:06:07   the uncomfortable and if you like [TS]

00:06:08   baseball you know you can listen the [TS]

00:06:10   first have to but what what Mike sure [TS]

00:06:12   makes the makes the point it at about [TS]

00:06:14   this seam is that is Han really helping [TS]

00:06:18   morale here as a general first off [TS]

00:06:20   everybody's in general right Lando is [TS]

00:06:22   Lando is a general own hey hey [TS]

00:06:24   someone told them about his little [TS]

00:06:26   maneuver at the battle of the NAB yeah [TS]

00:06:27   but but I mean he's in a room full of [TS]

00:06:29   people and they're planning this [TS]

00:06:30   potentially suicide mission and he's got [TS]

00:06:32   a cape Jason and I general material [TS]

00:06:35   right there so so so they're the scary [TS]

00:06:38   mission and on SaLuSa their guard [TS]

00:06:40   well I wouldn't want to be the guy who [TS]

00:06:42   has to do that blah [TS]

00:06:44   who's the sucker is gonna do that [TS]

00:06:46   mission but that's just so they can flip [TS]

00:06:48   it around later to show how brave hungry [TS]

00:06:50   he is I know you made that comment he [TS]

00:06:51   volunteered for the most dangerous [TS]

00:06:53   mission you know she's always making [TS]

00:06:55   comments about how he's gonna leave and [TS]

00:06:57   how he's just tell ya I suppose you [TS]

00:06:59   could leave the fighters if you're a was [TS]

00:07:02   he he is actually when you watch it I I [TS]

00:07:06   think it's really funny i can I had to [TS]

00:07:07   watch it with that context after hearing [TS]

00:07:09   that podcast but it is sort of shot as [TS]

00:07:12   if it's it's really hon just given the [TS]

00:07:15   needle to Lando like there really a word [TS]

00:07:17   and everything else is going on around [TS]

00:07:18   him and he's like war you know who's the [TS]

00:07:21   sucker who is going to do that one right [TS]

00:07:22   knee just setting up his be his buddy [TS]

00:07:24   but it is funny because Han Solo you [TS]

00:07:27   know he's a mount content he's always [TS]

00:07:28   gonna be that roguish guy he's going to [TS]

00:07:31   be making his jokes and people might die [TS]

00:07:33   but he's gonna make his jokes as its Han [TS]

00:07:36   Solo and i love the relationship between [TS]

00:07:38   him and Lando right like you know [TS]

00:07:39   because we finally hit sort of an [TS]

00:07:40   equilibrium where Lando sold him out and [TS]

00:07:43   then you know Lando help rescue him and [TS]

00:07:45   he rescues Lando from being sucked into [TS]

00:07:47   the Sarlacc and so they finally have [TS]

00:07:49   sort of gotten back to the even footing [TS]

00:07:50   that they were on supposedly when we [TS]

00:07:53   first meet him in Empire both both more [TS]

00:07:55   redeemed than they were [TS]

00:07:56   yeah they were both like smugglers and [TS]

00:07:57   scoundrels and now they're more [TS]

00:07:59   respectable and general respectable part [TS]

00:08:01   of the rebellion that they both seem to [TS]

00:08:02   believe [TS]

00:08:03   who'da thunk it a parent who would like [TS]

00:08:05   to be general then you're a general is [TS]

00:08:07   that there's three and an admiral but i [TS]

00:08:09   love you know that's it of course we get [TS]

00:08:12   the setup in the foreshadowing for later [TS]

00:08:13   and then this you know is a popular [TS]

00:08:14   urban legend right that Lando was [TS]

00:08:17   supposed to guy was not engine as the [TS]

00:08:19   truth no it's not [TS]

00:08:20   I looked this up because i remember that [TS]

00:08:22   as well and it is actually been denied [TS]

00:08:24   by pretty much everybody involved in it [TS]

00:08:27   in any way saying that he was not [TS]

00:08:28   supposed to die although hot Harrison [TS]

00:08:30   Ford tried to convince Lucas to kill Han [TS]

00:08:32   Solo yeah well I we have to wait for the [TS]

00:08:35   return of the jedi version of those [TS]

00:08:36   giant hardcover making out books before [TS]

00:08:38   all the yeah well that's fair that's [TS]

00:08:40   because I've got the new I've got the [TS]

00:08:41   new hope one and got the Empire one that [TS]

00:08:43   they're pretty darn scholarly work so [TS]

00:08:44   that will set the record straight but [TS]

00:08:46   I've also read that that yet that was [TS]

00:08:47   sort of a long-running began their [TS]

00:08:49   people argued oh if you look close you [TS]

00:08:50   can see the fire going around the [TS]

00:08:52   cockpit of money fun at the end it blows [TS]

00:08:54   up and i am personally blown up many [TS]

00:08:56   many times in that Death Star escape and [TS]

00:08:59   oh yeah we're talking super super super [TS]

00:09:01   return of the jedi cuz [TS]

00:09:03   a hard freeze I'm talking the gamecube [TS]

00:09:06   game which was brutally hard to get [TS]

00:09:09   through those tunnels into the center [TS]

00:09:10   that starting back down brutally hard [TS]

00:09:13   time thinking about I'm thinking about [TS]

00:09:14   the super nintendo one which was also [TS]

00:09:16   pretty damn hard road later on the [TS]

00:09:18   Gamecube i believe ya road later I [TS]

00:09:20   played that many a day I like the I like [TS]

00:09:23   the fact that he has the just got this [TS]

00:09:25   funny feeling I'm never going to see her [TS]

00:09:27   again kinda kind of thing because that's [TS]

00:09:29   the that is your typical setup [TS]

00:09:31   40 something something Bad's gonna [TS]

00:09:34   happen and it doesn't happen but by by [TS]

00:09:36   setting it out there [TS]

00:09:37   it almost does by setting it out there [TS]

00:09:39   makes you worried right you're like oh [TS]

00:09:40   no not not a scratch he loses the radar [TS]

00:09:43   dish I gotta promise to school yeah a [TS]

00:09:45   big scratch [TS]

00:09:46   well none of the parts that are left on [TS]

00:09:48   her are scratched quickly she came out [TS]

00:09:50   flogged never notice so that yeah so the [TS]

00:09:53   the Emperor dismisses Vader and sends it [TS]

00:09:56   back to the command ship and and there's [TS]

00:09:58   this really chilling scene where Luke [TS]

00:10:01   just looking at the at the ship and says [TS]

00:10:03   papers on the ship [TS]

00:10:05   I'm endangering the mission right where [TS]

00:10:06   it's like he can sense me and you known [TS]

00:10:09   that from the end of empire though [TS]

00:10:10   really yeah exactly right materials [TS]

00:10:12   because he was like passing out [TS]

00:10:14   yeah yeah so that it's great because [TS]

00:10:16   first off it really ups the stakes [TS]

00:10:19   you're like oh man he's gonna he's gonna [TS]

00:10:21   sense faders going to sense the Lucas [TS]

00:10:22   there and then it sets up the fact that [TS]

00:10:25   that the Empire is on to them and this [TS]

00:10:29   is not happening because they're [TS]

00:10:31   outsmarting the Empire and so there that [TS]

00:10:33   you're waiting for the hammer to be [TS]

00:10:35   dropped on our friends little mission [TS]

00:10:36   which we just learned about right we're [TS]

00:10:38   ready to go for the mission and it goes [TS]

00:10:39   bad immediately immediately it's like I [TS]

00:10:43   leave them to me [TS]

00:10:44   better let them land it says yeah I i [TS]

00:10:47   totally notice them but let them land [TS]

00:10:48   anyway [TS]

00:10:49   yeah I'll take care of them the and [TS]

00:10:50   so-and-so that and then you also the [TS]

00:10:53   Emperor moving the ordering the fleet to [TS]

00:10:54   be moved and and so it's setup from the [TS]

00:10:57   beginning like this is it's a trap right [TS]

00:10:59   now this is a setup they are screwed [TS]

00:11:03   it's going to go badly which I love [TS]

00:11:05   because you know what's the same thing [TS]

00:11:07   we just saw with Luke right where he's [TS]

00:11:09   like all the way down in the in the [TS]

00:11:11   depths of like oh my god how is he ever [TS]

00:11:13   gonna get out of this with java right [TS]

00:11:15   except now they don't have [TS]

00:11:17   a plan right now it's just that the plan [TS]

00:11:19   is going away right we heard their [TS]

00:11:20   planet we didn't know what the plan was [TS]

00:11:22   with the job escape because there was [TS]

00:11:24   all secret dress but now we were in on [TS]

00:11:25   the planning meeting and we know this is [TS]

00:11:27   all there is to the plan and there's [TS]

00:11:29   rack to know [TS]

00:11:30   yeah it's wrecked so instead of being [TS]

00:11:31   like oh you know it's going well so far [TS]

00:11:34   but I know something bad is gonna happen [TS]

00:11:35   because of drama instead it's like no no [TS]

00:11:37   it's it's going it's blown and they [TS]

00:11:40   don't know what yet it is the Hitchcock [TS]

00:11:42   thing where the audience knows that but [TS]

00:11:43   yeah yeah which i think is very [TS]

00:11:45   effective I i think it's a very [TS]

00:11:46   effective thing in this movie but we [TS]

00:11:48   immediately know that the Empire and [TS]

00:11:50   Darth Vader have have it over our [TS]

00:11:52   friends from the from the beginning [TS]

00:11:54   they've got it and it makes it makes a [TS]

00:11:56   han Solo look even more like hapless [TS]

00:11:58   this is what this is what so adorable [TS]

00:12:00   that Han Solo that he's got all the [TS]

00:12:02   swagger and everything but you know he's [TS]

00:12:03   the key is competent but there's a [TS]

00:12:05   little bit of like you know he's making [TS]

00:12:07   it up its finer on you know he's flying [TS]

00:12:09   by the seat of his pants don't look like [TS]

00:12:10   you're keeping a distance I don't know [TS]

00:12:11   fly casual like that just by casuals are [TS]

00:12:14   and again and you know the whole time [TS]

00:12:16   did already knows they're there but like [TS]

00:12:17   he's trying his best that's all [TS]

00:12:19   well I love it not only does he says [TS]

00:12:21   Luke right but like they like oh yeah [TS]

00:12:22   where you head for oh yeah we got parts [TS]

00:12:24   for the forest moon like anybody would [TS]

00:12:26   metal ions will be like that's totally [TS]

00:12:27   Han Solo just yeah right [TS]

00:12:29   you sound like Harrison Ford be any [TS]

00:12:31   antigens Mitchell had a layup put on her [TS]

00:12:34   little helmet that he got that looks [TS]

00:12:37   outfit here that the the forest camo he [TS]

00:12:40   again it looks like I mean this would be [TS]

00:12:42   more like it [TS]

00:12:43   it looks like he's from Flashdance he's [TS]

00:12:44   working like this big like a sarong [TS]

00:12:46   against me as far as camouflage yeah [TS]

00:12:48   well I tonsil gets a camouflaged trench [TS]

00:12:50   coat and and he's wearing like a sorry [TS]

00:12:52   it's not [TS]

00:12:53   yeah he basically ends up looking varies [TS]

00:12:55   wearing the exact same thing layers [TS]

00:12:57   where Jeff the dress the twins alive [TS]

00:13:00   stop doing that content sadly Luke takes [TS]

00:13:04   it takes a woman's small so what he had [TS]

00:13:07   to wear that was what they the size they [TS]

00:13:09   had even think he's coming along the [TS]

00:13:11   mission [TS]

00:13:12   it takes it off pretty soon he gets back [TS]

00:13:14   to good old priest look that we want the [TS]

00:13:16   other so this movie that's what we want [TS]

00:13:18   alright so we're on the forest moon of [TS]

00:13:20   Endor may which may we also known a [TS]

00:13:23   scant or or or not we're a group of [TS]

00:13:26   Marines and security Witt again no run [TS]

00:13:29   removing although that would wouldn't [TS]

00:13:32   avatar been something that they're [TS]

00:13:33   little bears instead of big blue people [TS]

00:13:35   man that would have been some movie [TS]

00:13:37   different audience for the sex scenes [TS]

00:13:39   that well I yeah yeah so so here we are [TS]

00:13:42   we're on that were on the forest moon [TS]

00:13:43   and the first thing that happens is we [TS]

00:13:46   get a nice little action peace with the [TS]

00:13:49   introduction of these speeders right [TS]

00:13:51   weekend we could go around them and yeah [TS]

00:13:56   the speeders I i remembered when I would [TS]

00:13:59   go back to say you know what which stars [TS]

00:14:01   movie you want to watch today which is a [TS]

00:14:02   frequent childhood conversation we had [TS]

00:14:05   the money HS and the reason you go for [TS]

00:14:08   Jedi the big reason for me was what i [TS]

00:14:10   wanted to see that speeder chase scene [TS]

00:14:12   because at the time it was the most [TS]

00:14:13   amazing special effects sequence of an [TS]

00:14:16   impossible thing that could really [TS]

00:14:18   happen that was nevertheless exciting [TS]

00:14:19   and I would just I wait the whole movie [TS]

00:14:21   for the scene now at this point with all [TS]

00:14:23   CG it doesn't quite hold up as well in [TS]

00:14:25   terms of excitement factor i find the [TS]

00:14:26   other parts of the movie more exciting [TS]

00:14:28   like the space battle and a lightsaber [TS]

00:14:30   battle in the am when I was a kid [TS]

00:14:31   man those speeds like you know they just [TS]

00:14:33   spend a little make the ring itself i am [TS]

00:14:35   sorry you've only been to California the [TS]

00:14:38   one time and you were just in san [TS]

00:14:39   francisco and you know the next time [TS]

00:14:41   you're out here I I could take you to [TS]

00:14:43   muir woods which is right next to my [TS]

00:14:44   house which is basically where they shot [TS]

00:14:46   that I was telling my son when we were [TS]

00:14:48   my son was watching me watching it with [TS]

00:14:50   me when I was rewatching it for the [TS]

00:14:51   podcast and I was telling him you know [TS]

00:14:52   those are real trees that's not a set [TS]

00:14:54   like there's a place those are actual [TS]

00:14:55   trees in a forest California Redwoods [TS]

00:14:57   yeah I don't think you believe me it [TS]

00:14:59   doesn't leave a lot of things not again [TS]

00:15:01   that's clearly the forest moon of Endor [TS]

00:15:03   AKA and/or aka the sanctuary move there [TS]

00:15:05   no such thing as trees that big look at [TS]

00:15:08   those trees [TS]

00:15:09   John when you're out here I'll get my [TS]

00:15:10   I'll get my a speeder out of the garage [TS]

00:15:14   and we'll go over to muir woods [TS]

00:15:16   I'll take a picture of you doesn't go as [TS]

00:15:18   fast as they used to but Hayley it's not [TS]

00:15:20   the years [TS]

00:15:21   dan it's the mileage and we'll take a [TS]

00:15:23   picture of you riding it in the in the [TS]

00:15:25   mirror woods and then and then you'll [TS]

00:15:27   have been to the forest moon of Endor or [TS]

00:15:28   commonly called endure the thing that I [TS]

00:15:30   like so much about the speeder battle is [TS]

00:15:33   actually the front shots that we get [TS]

00:15:35   occasionally that are like point-of-view [TS]

00:15:37   from either the characters or the [TS]

00:15:39   stormtroopers or the I guess microscope [TS]

00:15:41   wetland [TS]

00:15:42   trooper bikers here like trooper spyker [TS]

00:15:44   scalps biker scout [TS]

00:15:47   yeah champion encyclopedia back [TS]

00:15:49   everybody that's why have you to these [TS]

00:15:51   guys are as good at riding bikes is the [TS]

00:15:53   stormtroopers are shooting things and [TS]

00:15:55   they just considering how long they [TS]

00:15:57   survive and how again is because video [TS]

00:15:59   games how difficult it is to actually [TS]

00:16:00   drive these things of this kind of speed [TS]

00:16:01   without hitting a tree they do pretty [TS]

00:16:03   well know put a rearview mirror on a [TS]

00:16:05   huge ones which were to solve a lot of [TS]

00:16:07   problems only imperial troops could be [TS]

00:16:09   that accurate they don't expect to be [TS]

00:16:11   they expect to be you know chasing the [TS]

00:16:12   little the little Ewok they don't expect [TS]

00:16:14   rebel spies to be popping out of the [TS]

00:16:17   woodwork on their bikes really they're [TS]

00:16:19   using the speeder bikes on he walks [TS]

00:16:21   that's that's overkill just getting [TS]

00:16:23   around they're using their patrolling [TS]

00:16:25   out i love these sounds these things [TS]

00:16:27   make 10 you know it makes no sense of it [TS]

00:16:29   doesn't matter [TS]

00:16:31   yeah that bird is best their exact [TS]

00:16:33   amazing sounds that's happened that's [TS]

00:16:35   happened at the excitement of the scene [TS]

00:16:37   is the sound these things make all the [TS]

00:16:39   electronic noises and the howls and the [TS]

00:16:41   MELD nonsensical stuff the noises well [TS]

00:16:43   any way awesome i love my favorite still [TS]

00:16:46   being you know Luke you know jumps up [TS]

00:16:48   bails out of his feet are right because [TS]

00:16:49   they're about to hit a tree and the guy [TS]

00:16:51   comes around that you know my cursor [TS]

00:16:52   comes around thinking man i'm just gonna [TS]

00:16:54   I'm just gonna scare this guy down hold [TS]

00:16:56   up the Lifeshaper and then cuts off the [TS]

00:16:58   front of it [TS]

00:16:59   yeah and the greening entry that there [TS]

00:17:01   and even this movie like this was still [TS]

00:17:04   won't mention the other movies but this [TS]

00:17:07   was just in case where they were mostly [TS]

00:17:09   withholding lightsabers you felt like [TS]

00:17:11   you wanted to see more lightsaber [TS]

00:17:12   they're doing it because they know if [TS]

00:17:14   you have lightsabers and every single [TS]

00:17:15   scene lose especially so when he looked [TS]

00:17:16   up the lightsaber for this one bit [TS]

00:17:18   alright but that's me nuts it's like [TS]

00:17:20   when Voltron takes out the sword and all [TS]

00:17:21   right time to get serious enough playing [TS]

00:17:24   around you knocked me off my bicycle now [TS]

00:17:26   this end and it just takes a few seconds [TS]

00:17:28   and it goes away it's not over you like [TS]

00:17:31   it's not like throwing his lightsaber [TS]

00:17:32   from the speeder trying to get the other [TS]

00:17:34   one catching it in the air and doing vs [TS]

00:17:36   like that [TS]

00:17:37   his piloting skills [TS]

00:17:40   [Music] [TS]

00:17:56   I wanted a 10 point to John's point [TS]

00:18:01   about being a hard being hapless is i [TS]

00:18:03   love that scene where their 1st trying [TS]

00:18:04   to sneak up just like your Scouts for is [TS]

00:18:07   you [TS]

00:18:08   yeah I first of all I love the Harrison [TS]

00:18:09   for delivery on the hey it's me you know [TS]

00:18:12   and then he creeps around he's like [TS]

00:18:14   tiptoeing around the tree and then all [TS]

00:18:17   the sudden you know steps on the twig [TS]

00:18:18   gets punched right and not gown and then [TS]

00:18:22   I love the end they're sort of like [TS]

00:18:23   wrestling he tries to throw the guy into [TS]

00:18:25   a tree and then he doesn't like he [TS]

00:18:26   seriously there's like an aikido flip on [TS]

00:18:28   the guy and like flips him over which is [TS]

00:18:30   awesome but then and then it like about [TS]

00:18:34   he's already lost half his team at that [TS]

00:18:35   point [TS]

00:18:36   yeah well and then we can we shoot back [TS]

00:18:39   to like Luke coming back you just see [TS]

00:18:41   Han sitting like at the base of the tree [TS]

00:18:43   looking completely abandoned and sad so [TS]

00:18:45   dejected I guess someone screwed up my [TS]

00:18:49   first mission to the general guys your [TS]

00:18:51   mob first days general was terrible at [TS]

00:18:55   beat up go throw in a locker the we get [TS]

00:18:58   to meet the Ewoks here [TS]

00:18:59   Yub Yub Yub he wants to get a bit the [TS]

00:19:03   u.s. get a bad name [TS]

00:19:05   they're cute they are like my kids and [TS]

00:19:08   my kids love them my kids this is why my [TS]

00:19:10   kids want to watch this movie is it is [TS]

00:19:11   it the snow movie or the or the one with [TS]

00:19:13   the Ewoks but I say well as the one that [TS]

00:19:16   you know what I want that my answer is [TS]

00:19:18   it's the snow movie and the like are we [TS]

00:19:20   want to watch the one with the evil [TS]

00:19:21   slowly alright alright so my my thing [TS]

00:19:25   for the Ewoks over any other arm [TS]

00:19:27   potentially annoying characters that [TS]

00:19:31   have been thrown into supposedly panter [TS]

00:19:33   towards kids is that the Ewoks are cute [TS]

00:19:35   find they're cuddly they're not exactly [TS]

00:19:37   very vicious but they don't talk in real [TS]

00:19:40   words so however said you put their [TS]

00:19:42   dialogue might be [TS]

00:19:44   yeah exactly when when Leigh is having [TS]

00:19:47   her interaction with them [TS]

00:19:49   she's talking to them like a kid but it [TS]

00:19:50   doesn't seem pandering and the audience [TS]

00:19:52   doesn't want to blow their brains out [TS]

00:19:54   because she's treating it more like [TS]

00:19:55   stringing more like an animal than a kid [TS]

00:19:57   I think she did seem like a tourist like [TS]

00:19:59   the part where she comes in like when [TS]

00:20:01   they're trying to cook them later and [TS]

00:20:02   she's like no these are my friends to [TS]

00:20:05   speak loudly really slowly [TS]

00:20:06   oh I understand you're sure [TS]

00:20:08   yeah and the equinoxes are portrayed I [TS]

00:20:10   mean the other cute and stuff but they [TS]

00:20:13   are an indigenous people and they've got [TS]

00:20:15   their own ways and they are not you know [TS]

00:20:17   completely pure and nice they do they do [TS]

00:20:20   try to roast han solo for extending can [TS]

00:20:23   you blame them and they do blood and [TS]

00:20:26   start rippers to death most of their [TS]

00:20:27   cattle starters through blunt force [TS]

00:20:29   trauma and one of them dies and it's [TS]

00:20:31   very sad everyone there is there is a [TS]

00:20:33   reason that you want to get the bad rap [TS]

00:20:35   they do in the I think the only reason [TS]

00:20:36   that they are redeemed this because we [TS]

00:20:38   know how much worse it could have really [TS]

00:20:40   been and also because when we saw these [TS]

00:20:42   things that we were kids but this is [TS]

00:20:44   when the movie takes a this section of [TS]

00:20:47   the movie takes more of a turn into the [TS]

00:20:49   things that kids like that is even not [TS]

00:20:52   lighter in terms of an Indiana Jones [TS]

00:20:54   lighter like kind of like rye and and [TS]

00:20:57   witty but now it's more kind of like [TS]

00:20:58   does the baby walk and there's the you [TS]

00:21:02   know that this sweetie while that you [TS]

00:21:04   walk crying over the other walk and they [TS]

00:21:05   do kind of goofy things that even though [TS]

00:21:07   they are supposed to be a society with [TS]

00:21:08   fierce warriors and stuff their undercut [TS]

00:21:10   a little bit by the by the joke eNOS up [TS]

00:21:12   although i love the scene were Threepio [TS]

00:21:14   gets to recount basically the our story [TS]

00:21:16   so far it would sound effects sound [TS]

00:21:18   effects but no words that we can really [TS]

00:21:20   understand its charming haha and ability [TS]

00:21:25   to test our way manacle tool princess [TS]

00:21:29   there was a when I was hard on d theta [TS]

00:21:33   and think of a scheme okie some debts [TS]

00:21:40   what we gon get open closet Kenobi in my [TS]

00:21:45   magic on you know baby yes i do I was [TS]

00:21:51   just coming to that two run [TS]

00:21:52   oh gosh just look at Germany to do with [TS]

00:22:03   the Millennium Falcon and instruments [TS]

00:22:05   Cloud City with much data and solo take [TS]

00:22:15   low-carbon catchment supersonic 00 any [TS]

00:22:25   chance Toto Manette and actually has [TS]

00:22:28   some charm to it although i do to test [TS]

00:22:30   the scene that is directly after that [TS]

00:22:31   which is the luke tells layout that it a [TS]

00:22:35   do you remember your mother I just [TS]

00:22:37   energy i remember as a kid always [TS]

00:22:39   wanting to fast forward to that team [TS]

00:22:41   because like a yeah get the part where [TS]

00:22:43   they're fighting stormtroopers again and [TS]

00:22:45   I at last to pretend she's sad just like [TS]

00:22:47   I oh I'm accent now and there's others a [TS]

00:22:50   bizarre little nonsensical spat with her [TS]

00:22:53   in Han Solo were hunters like yeah you [TS]

00:22:55   too Luke I'm gonna storm off and no I'm [TS]

00:22:57   just kidding i'm really sorry no I'm [TS]

00:22:59   sorry [TS]

00:22:59   hold me food that was good oh you can [TS]

00:23:03   tell this is a Lucas scene right [TS]

00:23:06   the force is strong in my family I have [TS]

00:23:08   it my father has it [TS]

00:23:10   my sister are you following along you're [TS]

00:23:14   done [TS]

00:23:15   he just wants to talk to layer so badly [TS]

00:23:17   about this and she's just not getting [TS]

00:23:20   the hint and he's like all right come on [TS]

00:23:22   please I view that as being looks like [TS]

00:23:24   what we would with the most dramatically [TS]

00:23:25   I could tell you this I could just run [TS]

00:23:27   up to its exactly i thought other places [TS]

00:23:29   you don't there's a father God but no no [TS]

00:23:31   no let me stretch it out let me make it [TS]

00:23:33   a little more dramatic [TS]

00:23:33   that's it the Darth Vader's here [TS]

00:23:35   remember Darth Vader he's a bad guy [TS]

00:23:37   yeah okay guess what guess what the [TS]

00:23:39   force is strong in my family I know that [TS]

00:23:41   seems unrelated wait wait for it wait [TS]

00:23:42   for it [TS]

00:23:43   Darth Vader's my father who no no that's [TS]

00:23:46   not it [TS]

00:23:47   oh that starts out the conversation with [TS]

00:23:52   like I never remembered my [TS]

00:23:54   other oh my sister has it [TS]

00:23:57   my name is Gail she lives in Oregon and [TS]

00:23:58   actually and the thing that really gets [TS]

00:24:03   me about that is that lady's trying to [TS]

00:24:05   process it all and I I'm really should [TS]

00:24:07   and she says I know what it means that [TS]

00:24:09   in the reverse order that would've been [TS]

00:24:10   worse i know somehow I've always known [TS]

00:24:13   and really you know what she should be [TS]

00:24:15   saying there is [TS]

00:24:15   wait a second are you saying the Darth [TS]

00:24:17   Vader is my father [TS]

00:24:20   holy crap right now it's just like I've [TS]

00:24:22   always known and we and we made out that [TS]

00:24:24   one time i do then to but that was just [TS]

00:24:27   getting hard jealous when Han Solo was [TS]

00:24:29   told he has the realization on his face [TS]

00:24:31   I like to think that one of the [TS]

00:24:32   realizations that crosses through his [TS]

00:24:34   mind and his face is the way to Kingston [TS]

00:24:36   hey you all right anyway [TS]

00:24:38   well who's got the last laugh now Luke [TS]

00:24:40   haha but yeah it's a that's a really [TS]

00:24:42   weird scene we we skipped over i want to [TS]

00:24:45   go back to Threepio being a god to the [TS]

00:24:47   Ewoks by the way it's against his [TS]

00:24:49   programming to impersonate a deity tell [TS]

00:24:51   him you tell him you will use your magic [TS]

00:24:54   but um it as an adult looking at that [TS]

00:24:58   it's a it and thinking about some of the [TS]

00:25:00   criticisms levelled George Lucas in [TS]

00:25:03   specifically in some of the portrayals [TS]

00:25:05   in episode 1 i'll look at this and it's [TS]

00:25:07   like wow you know they're I know their [TS]

00:25:09   little bears on an alien moon but it's [TS]

00:25:12   this is the that these are you know this [TS]

00:25:15   is headhunters this is this [TS]

00:25:17   it's kind of offensive it is like oh [TS]

00:25:19   these are savages they believe crazy [TS]

00:25:21   seven it's all the tropes about the [TS]

00:25:23   Sabbath kind of noble savage kind of [TS]

00:25:25   sending to the the box they're like [TS]

00:25:27   children there the noble savages they [TS]

00:25:29   believe in voodoo stuff there and now [TS]

00:25:32   you're part of the tribe and yes it's a [TS]

00:25:34   home you know and r2 also r2d2 in his [TS]

00:25:38   list of things that he has inside a [TS]

00:25:40   Taser nice to know that it was which he [TS]

00:25:43   zaps them in the buggy some use that [TS]

00:25:45   earlier to break latest jail in an [TS]

00:25:47   adorable way everything is absolution [TS]

00:25:50   scramble that there are insanely right [TS]

00:25:52   right but is when he's at the Ewok Ewok [TS]

00:25:54   jumps into the split kick and touch and [TS]

00:25:58   his little heinie guess the sparkle like [TS]

00:25:59   that's the thing to make that he walks [TS]

00:26:01   and a lot of it is justified [TS]

00:26:02   yeah yeah but it is i think it's [TS]

00:26:03   interesting that that I mean because [TS]

00:26:04   they're not sort of a [TS]

00:26:07   and there there little more review [TS]

00:26:09   removed from being a a racial stereotype [TS]

00:26:12   it still is like everything out of the [TS]

00:26:15   PlayBook of of you know what though it's [TS]

00:26:18   the headhunters it's were in the darkest [TS]

00:26:20   deepest part of Africa or the Pacific or [TS]

00:26:22   whatever and it's all the stuff out of [TS]

00:26:24   that playbook [TS]

00:26:25   except there there little bears is there [TS]

00:26:28   clearly the Native Americans they have [TS]

00:26:29   that we have headdresses and the little [TS]

00:26:31   animal skulls now we try to remember [TS]

00:26:34   wasn't there a discussion where they [TS]

00:26:35   were supposed to be Wookiees yeah it was [TS]

00:26:38   those are plentiful cookies [TS]

00:26:39   I don't know that would have been better [TS]

00:26:41   i know i'm i'm unclear i mean we did get [TS]

00:26:44   the Christmas special to show us wiki [TS]

00:26:45   life so it was anything like that you [TS]

00:26:48   know i mean so if if I saying which if [TS]

00:26:51   we had Wookiees Were jetta we wouldn't [TS]

00:26:53   have had that then yes we get all agree [TS]

00:26:55   that it would have been better [TS]

00:26:56   yes anyway but but the highlight of this [TS]

00:26:58   is is what you read what red said which [TS]

00:27:01   is its Threepio telling the story so far [TS]

00:27:03   with the sound effects that is great [TS]

00:27:05   because it that says something I think [TS]

00:27:08   about the you know that how this story [TS]

00:27:12   is an epic story and it's told with it [TS]

00:27:15   you know it's it's based on these [TS]

00:27:17   mythical archetypes and you boil it down [TS]

00:27:20   to three pio just you know taking sound [TS]

00:27:23   effects and little tiny bits and in and [TS]

00:27:26   and and telling a story around a [TS]

00:27:27   campfire and leaving the little bear [TS]

00:27:29   guys enthralled and its really it's [TS]

00:27:32   great and convincing them to join the [TS]

00:27:34   fight right which is the most part of it [TS]

00:27:36   yeah so that scene is great it's [TS]

00:27:38   surrounded by terrible things but that [TS]

00:27:39   seems great and it's also a highlight of [TS]

00:27:43   our central characters which this movie [TS]

00:27:46   has you know these this trilogy has very [TS]

00:27:49   much of and the other trilogy which [TS]

00:27:51   doesn't actually exist has very little [TS]

00:27:54   in terms of character interaction and [TS]

00:27:56   people who you really care about and [TS]

00:27:58   when they go into carbonite you feel sad [TS]

00:28:00   for you know it's really nice to see [TS]

00:28:02   kind of that knit and you you really do [TS]

00:28:04   in the story we skipped over the the [TS]

00:28:07   another one of the annoying scenes that [TS]

00:28:08   bothers me is that making sure he looks [TS]

00:28:10   like a doofus it to get the meat and get [TS]

00:28:12   them trapped in the thing and they [TS]

00:28:13   played the due to do music as they're up [TS]

00:28:14   there great let's get out all right [TS]

00:28:16   everybody looks [TS]

00:28:18   good doofus oh that's weird that that's [TS]

00:28:20   also a bad scene because it never i.e I [TS]

00:28:23   think it's badly edited and shot but [TS]

00:28:26   it's confusing about what she is seeing [TS]

00:28:29   yeah it doesn't look like an animal but [TS]

00:28:31   it's you know and it's clear that trap [TS]

00:28:33   but then they're always it becomes more [TS]

00:28:34   Slatter of like grit and and the other [TS]

00:28:37   thing about always always bothered me [TS]

00:28:38   and continues to is that when r 2 gets [TS]

00:28:41   them out first of all he cuts like one [TS]

00:28:43   string right in front of him and they [TS]

00:28:44   all come out and second of all sparks [TS]

00:28:46   fly so they have metl going through this [TS]

00:28:48   netting yeah the sparks thing always [TS]

00:28:50   bugged me as a kid I could never quite [TS]

00:28:51   figure out the hell was going on there [TS]

00:28:53   it was maybe the electric net I don't [TS]

00:28:54   know [TS]

00:28:55   yeah but that the tone of that crosses [TS]

00:28:58   the line into the dude music yeah can [TS]

00:29:00   you reach my lightsaber huh yeah get it [TS]

00:29:03   for you all my face is squished are you [TS]

00:29:05   silly wookie that's the meaning to [TS]

00:29:07   Chewie who would be much more streetwise [TS]

00:29:09   than that [TS]

00:29:11   two weeks from the city he doesn't [TS]

00:29:12   understand this crazy country stuff was [TS]

00:29:14   like this this middle section where it's [TS]

00:29:15   like meet the Ewoks aren't they cute but [TS]

00:29:17   they're dangerous but they're cute and [TS]

00:29:18   there are their enemies but they're our [TS]

00:29:20   friends like and all this ridiculousness [TS]

00:29:22   is the bad is the worst section of the [TS]

00:29:25   Ewok section i think once once the [TS]

00:29:27   fighting starts [TS]

00:29:29   he walks are much less annoying and and [TS]

00:29:31   fit more seamlessly and to get to that [TS]

00:29:33   phrase you've got to get Luke out of [TS]

00:29:35   their busy lives after he has his awful [TS]

00:29:36   scene with that with like and goes off [TS]

00:29:38   stock debater and so now we're back into [TS]

00:29:40   the better scenes [TS]

00:29:41   yeah and that seemed so that scene where [TS]

00:29:42   look meet with Vader on the moon I I i [TS]

00:29:44   forget that scene exists and it's a [TS]

00:29:47   great scene [TS]

00:29:47   ok I'm surprised you forget because it's [TS]

00:29:49   very I it sticks in my memory because [TS]

00:29:51   it's very riveting and important like [TS]

00:29:54   dramatic but I as a kid you're like okay [TS]

00:29:56   this Darth Vader and he's the big bad [TS]

00:29:58   guy and then and then you confront some [TS]

00:29:59   an empire it's a big dramatic thing and [TS]

00:30:00   this movie like they meet again and [TS]

00:30:03   instead of fighting they're talking like [TS]

00:30:05   what they've been issues to work and [TS]

00:30:06   family therapy it's it's because it's [TS]

00:30:09   it's because it's got you've got all [TS]

00:30:11   those scenes with the Ewoks and then [TS]

00:30:13   you've got all the action stuff that [TS]

00:30:14   happens after and it's it's an important [TS]

00:30:17   scene but it's this one [TS]

00:30:19   it's not like the scenes that surrounded [TS]

00:30:21   it's this it is a linchpin kind of scene [TS]

00:30:23   where you know dad's dad picks up his [TS]

00:30:25   son on the planet and takes him back to [TS]

00:30:27   the start that it isn't it's a tense [TS]

00:30:29   moment because you want you at this [TS]

00:30:30   point they [TS]

00:30:31   base they sold a lot of seeds of doubt [TS]

00:30:33   we can talk about this but we're going [TS]

00:30:34   you know that seems to be in the later [TS]

00:30:36   in the Empire like I hope your feelings [TS]

00:30:38   are clear strange that I had not felt [TS]

00:30:39   him on you know felt Luke on the thing [TS]

00:30:41   where you're there putting a little [TS]

00:30:43   seeds of doubt in your mind of like well [TS]

00:30:45   so what is Vader's motivation he didn't [TS]

00:30:48   kill him in an empire he wanted to join [TS]

00:30:49   them [TS]

00:30:50   so in the very least you're thinking [TS]

00:30:52   Bader has an ulterior motive of get Luke [TS]

00:30:54   to join me come back and defeat the [TS]

00:30:55   Emperor be stated that right out an [TS]

00:30:56   empire and now the Emperor's question [TS]

00:30:58   like why do you have this connection to [TS]

00:31:00   this version that we now know to be your [TS]

00:31:01   son what's the deal there and loop is [TS]

00:31:03   totally like there's good in him I felt [TS]

00:31:05   that I'm gonna so when they meet [TS]

00:31:06   together the tension is what's gonna [TS]

00:31:07   happen there is looking to say hey Lou [TS]

00:31:09   come with me and get rid of the Emperor [TS]

00:31:10   Luke we know is going to say I felt the [TS]

00:31:13   good and you come with me you know that [TS]

00:31:14   that tension of seen what what is this [TS]

00:31:17   relationship that was previously so [TS]

00:31:18   simple bad guy good guy is now very very [TS]

00:31:21   complicated and that meeting [TS]

00:31:23   you're gonna find out who's right you [TS]

00:31:24   guys is the Emperor right that Vader is [TS]

00:31:27   going to bring him up to him just like [TS]

00:31:28   you asked them to is look right that [TS]

00:31:29   he's going to turn or something else [TS]

00:31:31   going to happen and the conclusion of [TS]

00:31:32   that scene that I love the the bit where [TS]

00:31:34   Vader says I see you instructed your [TS]

00:31:36   life seven takes a lightsaber behind [TS]

00:31:38   look like I got chopped up with his own [TS]

00:31:40   lightsaber he doesn't you know but the [TS]

00:31:42   end of the scene is that Vader takes him [TS]

00:31:43   back to the Emperor exactly like the [TS]

00:31:44   Emperor study should and the only thing [TS]

00:31:47   you get is the little tiny conciliatory [TS]

00:31:49   it's too late for me son but he still [TS]

00:31:51   does with the Emperor told them to do [TS]

00:31:53   which is bringing back that they're the [TS]

00:31:55   regret and it's great setup for what [TS]

00:31:57   happens later but the regret invader [TS]

00:31:58   there that that Luke tries to turn them [TS]

00:32:00   and and and fader because this is really [TS]

00:32:03   where Darth Vader get starts to be [TS]

00:32:05   humanized which is so important for what [TS]

00:32:07   happens later in the movie where there's [TS]

00:32:09   the regret he's eat he says we want ride [TS]

00:32:12   this you know it didn't work and and [TS]

00:32:15   there is some regret there and then it's [TS]

00:32:17   too late for me son like you know you [TS]

00:32:19   can feel it it's like he he knows what [TS]

00:32:23   he's doing and what he's done is [TS]

00:32:24   terrible but he feels like it he's on [TS]

00:32:27   the path he can't turn back he he can't [TS]

00:32:29   change because he's already made his [TS]

00:32:31   decision he wasted his life for whatever [TS]

00:32:34   ruined his life by serving the Emperor [TS]

00:32:35   it's too late for me which is great [TS]

00:32:38   setup for later but it also makes you [TS]

00:32:39   for the very first time I feel something [TS]

00:32:43   for Darth Vader that he he is not just [TS]

00:32:45   the bad guy he is he is this kind of [TS]

00:32:49   this tragic figure which is incredibly [TS]

00:32:51   important for later and this is that [TS]

00:32:53   moment that's why it's so pivotal and [TS]

00:32:55   and we've got Luke to wear heard you [TS]

00:32:57   know this was kind of his all in play [TS]

00:33:00   right yeah I'm taking it let's go run [TS]

00:33:02   off with me i'm going to jump it you [TS]

00:33:03   know stick my head in the lion's mouth [TS]

00:33:05   and basically say I you know here's my [TS]

00:33:08   here's my pitch take me up on it and so [TS]

00:33:10   but we also see that he's you know his [TS]

00:33:13   fallback plan is basically you know as [TS]

00:33:15   we know in a scene shortly thereafter to [TS]

00:33:18   die on the Death Star right now I know [TS]

00:33:20   he says the Emperor soon also yeah dude [TS]

00:33:23   and you and you along with me and you [TS]

00:33:25   know yeah he's thinking you're gonna [TS]

00:33:26   blow up the Death Star exactly and so I [TS]

00:33:28   think you know that it's such an [TS]

00:33:29   interesting play because he's right he's [TS]

00:33:30   willing to sacrifice his life to try and [TS]

00:33:32   bring his father back around right is [TS]

00:33:35   huge because you know we've seen him [TS]

00:33:37   sort of teetering on this you know you [TS]

00:33:39   can go a little dark side is he gonna [TS]

00:33:41   stay where he is and you know I think [TS]

00:33:44   that's you know the fact that he's [TS]

00:33:45   willing to make that sacrifice is a big [TS]

00:33:47   plain paper and also there's an app is [TS]

00:33:50   an added walking there isn't any [TS]

00:33:51   accidentally don't if you're a as a [TS]

00:33:55   seventeen-year-old boy in there when the [TS]

00:33:57   rear releases came of the special [TS]

00:33:58   editions came out and watch this movie [TS]

00:34:00   at like 1030 at night with a bunch of [TS]

00:34:02   friends in the movie theater and let me [TS]

00:34:04   tell you the Emperor's lines pretty much [TS]

00:34:06   all take on a really disturbing innuendo [TS]

00:34:08   at that point I hate is swelling in unit [TS]

00:34:12   creepy when we look at when greater [TS]

00:34:15   brings look back to the the Emperor [TS]

00:34:17   thing that struck me this time I was [TS]

00:34:18   watching it was a you know so you've got [TS]

00:34:20   the I think of it at that point better [TS]

00:34:23   says obi-wan has taught you well he's [TS]

00:34:25   got that line right right and that's [TS]

00:34:26   repeated a lot that kind of idea i keep [TS]

00:34:28   talking about obi-wan obi-wan tried to [TS]

00:34:30   turn me we want to talk to well blah [TS]

00:34:31   blah and the the thing that pilots to me [TS]

00:34:35   is that the the bad guys don't know [TS]

00:34:38   about Yoda they never mentioned that you [TS]

00:34:40   don't have no idea that Yoda is training [TS]

00:34:43   look at all and that is a refreshing [TS]

00:34:44   change from the movie cliché where [TS]

00:34:47   adversaries know every detail of the [TS]

00:34:49   other side like you know we just like it [TS]

00:34:51   James Bond movies are great examples [TS]

00:34:52   James Bond knows everything about the [TS]

00:34:54   enemies and [TS]

00:34:54   you know everything about James Bond all [TS]

00:34:55   the Secret Service know all about each [TS]

00:34:57   other in this movie the the darkside [TS]

00:34:59   guys spend the entire time having no [TS]

00:35:00   idea that Luke has been hanging out and [TS]

00:35:02   about talking to your it's all about [TS]

00:35:03   like we want to talk to you this so you [TS]

00:35:04   can't block nobody one can help you now [TS]

00:35:06   Luke never says no i've been i've been [TS]

00:35:08   hanging out with Yoda is awesome [TS]

00:35:10   yeah dude I i nuovi want for like 20 [TS]

00:35:12   minutes yeah right yeah he gave me gave [TS]

00:35:15   me this helmet at night kind of fought [TS]

00:35:17   with a ball but shot me in the butt and [TS]

00:35:20   then he died [TS]

00:35:21   you killed him I I learned a lot and [TS]

00:35:23   look never corrected me like no you keep [TS]

00:35:24   saying oh we wanted to annoy me at this [TS]

00:35:26   point you know it's Yoda my teacher is [TS]

00:35:28   gonna maybe they wouldn't have fought [TS]

00:35:29   him that whole crap you trained him [TS]

00:35:31   we're due back off sun so so uh what we [TS]

00:35:36   cut back to the to the forest moon of [TS]

00:35:38   Endor the something that's always struck [TS]

00:35:42   me as strange is is they do this the [TS]

00:35:44   Ewok ruins their surprise attack [TS]

00:35:47   well he doesn't ruin it he and enhances [TS]

00:35:49   it by drawing people off well this is [TS]

00:35:51   they're like oh no he's wrecked it's [TS]

00:35:53   like no that's the perfect diversion [TS]

00:35:54   because how he's not an attacking force [TS]

00:35:56   he's a native these storm troopers have [TS]

00:35:59   got to have been annoyed by these clocks [TS]

00:36:01   they're like oh no not more of these [TS]

00:36:03   Oh think they would have learned not to [TS]

00:36:05   leave the keys in the speeder well yeah [TS]

00:36:07   it maybe don't have keys they're just [TS]

00:36:09   like keyless that term on also yet [TS]

00:36:12   another long like checkmark in the long [TS]

00:36:14   list of stormtrooper and competence [TS]

00:36:16   right because not only do we get that [TS]

00:36:18   where they're like oh god three of us [TS]

00:36:20   better go chase that you walk within the [TS]

00:36:22   last guy gets beaten by a game a tag [TS]

00:36:25   yeah have some of the shoulder up i'm on [TS]

00:36:27   the other shoulder that was the best [TS]

00:36:28   console learned that as a kid I do love [TS]

00:36:31   that scene though especially when he [TS]

00:36:32   runs around the corner and those guys [TS]

00:36:33   bringing guns into moves like damn it I [TS]

00:36:35   always fault but when he walked takes [TS]

00:36:39   off of the speeder that was that is a [TS]

00:36:40   killer [TS]

00:36:41   laughs a scene for my kids to like to [TS]

00:36:46   say that I worry about that biker scout [TS]

00:36:48   who got tricked by hon just got the [TS]

00:36:49   biggest performance reviews and it's [TS]

00:36:52   gonna be able to find it and it was [TS]

00:36:53   pointless anyway he was rubbing it in i [TS]

00:36:55   mean you could have the same number of [TS]

00:36:56   people just simply walk out and point [TS]

00:36:58   the gun at the one person but it was [TS]

00:36:59   more fun to trick no promotion for that [TS]

00:37:01   guy [TS]

00:37:01   well most of management is dead by this [TS]

00:37:03   point so little details that i love is [TS]

00:37:05   which [TS]

00:37:06   like when they go into the monkey after [TS]

00:37:07   that you can see [TS]

00:37:08   nobody else putting on the biker scout [TS]

00:37:09   helmet and standing outside like you [TS]

00:37:12   know they're smart enough to like leave [TS]

00:37:13   a guy at the back is a decoy of it there [TS]

00:37:15   are there are red shirts in in the [TS]

00:37:17   Andorian force but we like you know [TS]

00:37:18   where are they we don't see them [TS]

00:37:20   basically when they go to the walk thing [TS]

00:37:22   but there around you know the extras [TS]

00:37:24   with no lines that are not on camera [TS]

00:37:25   much but there is a but it seems like [TS]

00:37:27   the only people land on this planet is [TS]

00:37:29   like you know Han Chewie c-3po r2d2 luke [TS]

00:37:32   and leia there other people there too [TS]

00:37:34   well you have to spit the other space [TS]

00:37:36   set up here where they keep coming back [TS]

00:37:37   to the space that awesome exciting space [TS]

00:37:39   man i was again you see a million ships [TS]

00:37:40   flying around there all assembly and [TS]

00:37:42   they always jump to hyperspace which is [TS]

00:37:44   the almighty one of my favorite yeah and [TS]

00:37:45   time and i love 18 when they approached [TS]

00:37:47   the death star like they're gonna hit [TS]

00:37:49   they're gonna hit you know when they [TS]

00:37:50   slow down that giant 180 degree i really [TS]

00:37:53   enjoy the i really enjoyed that the the [TS]

00:37:56   scene were Admiral Ackbar's like all [TS]

00:37:57   right well are all ships are gonna jump [TS]

00:37:59   to Lightspeed on my mark and lenders [TS]

00:38:00   like got it i'm just going up it just [TS]

00:38:02   goes yeah screw that i'm in the [TS]

00:38:05   Millennium Vulcan yeah that was his mark [TS]

00:38:08   him sold word mark so uh so Luke meet [TS]

00:38:11   the Emperor and he gets out lukd which I [TS]

00:38:14   like because we've talked about how [TS]

00:38:16   Lucas Lucas so confident eat it Luke and [TS]

00:38:18   ancillary anything and he feels like [TS]

00:38:20   well I'm and I'm sure I can do whatever [TS]

00:38:22   I want so he runs into the Emperor [TS]

00:38:24   teases your overconfidence is your [TS]

00:38:26   weakness and the Emperor is a high fever [TS]

00:38:29   is like your faith in your friends is [TS]

00:38:31   yours [TS]

00:38:32   oh burn you got yeah he's got to come by [TS]

00:38:35   the emperor has got to come back for [TS]

00:38:36   everything yeah don't hear the master is [TS]

00:38:40   you you were owned by the master Emperor [TS]

00:38:42   Luke it's a it's a nice moment [TS]

00:38:44   yeah well this in this entire sequence [TS]

00:38:46   right is Luke increasingly getting over [TS]

00:38:50   over his head right like you know this [TS]

00:38:52   guy [TS]

00:38:53   yeah like that has totally miscalculated [TS]

00:38:55   the situation and the and the Emperor [TS]

00:38:57   doesn't like the Emperor's ago is into [TS]

00:38:59   theatrics tubes amber could tell him up [TS]

00:39:01   front [TS]

00:39:01   ok so your your fleas falling to trap [TS]

00:39:03   the start early operational he doesn't [TS]

00:39:05   he lets it dulls it out it was like what [TS]

00:39:07   is he gonna do you can't get out of here [TS]

00:39:09   yeah it's a very different tactic from [TS]

00:39:11   most of the monologuing that happens in [TS]

00:39:13   modern movies where it's like all of the [TS]

00:39:15   model logging that would happen in a [TS]

00:39:16   modern movie happens in this [TS]

00:39:18   scene it's just Luke is doing all the [TS]

00:39:20   investigations here instead of the [TS]

00:39:22   villain being like let me tell you what [TS]

00:39:24   you're doomed to failure i'm looking [TS]

00:39:27   forward to completing country in time [TS]

00:39:31   you will call me master [TS]

00:39:35   you're gravely mistaken you won't [TS]

00:39:39   convert me as you did my father [TS]

00:39:40   oh no my and Jedi you will find that it [TS]

00:39:49   is you who are mistaken about a great [TS]

00:39:54   many think his light sleeper [TS]

00:40:00   yes a Jedi's weapon much like your [TS]

00:40:05   father's by now you must know your [TS]

00:40:08   father can never be turned from the dark [TS]

00:40:10   side [TS]

00:40:12   so will it be with you [TS]

00:40:15   your are so they'll be dead and you with [TS]

00:40:20   perhaps you referred to the imminent [TS]

00:40:26   attack of your rebel fleet [TS]

00:40:29   yeah I assure you react quite safe from [TS]

00:40:33   your friends here [TS]

00:40:37   your overconfidence is your weakness [TS]

00:40:38   your faith in your friends is yours [TS]

00:40:44   it is pointless to resist my son [TS]

00:40:52   everything that has transpired has done [TS]

00:40:55   sir according to my design your friends [TS]

00:40:59   up there on the century move out walking [TS]

00:41:02   into a trap [TS]

00:41:03   as is your rebel fleet it was I who have [TS]

00:41:10   the Alliance to know the location of the [TS]

00:41:12   shield generator it is quite see young [TS]

00:41:16   pitiful little band an entire Legion of [TS]

00:41:21   my best troops awaits them who i'm [TS]

00:41:26   a-free the deflector shield will be [TS]

00:41:29   quite operational when your friends run [TS]

00:41:34   and it makes sense because the Emperor's [TS]

00:41:36   goal is here to get pissed off basically [TS]

00:41:38   you do a light by doling it out it's not [TS]

00:41:40   like I'm doing it for dramatic tension [TS]

00:41:41   in the movie he's doing because the [TS]

00:41:43   whole point is to make this guy angry [TS]

00:41:44   and if you just let out all at once it [TS]

00:41:45   doesn't work as well if you just slowly [TS]

00:41:47   tease it out and every time he thinks [TS]

00:41:49   okay well that's not bad my friends in [TS]

00:41:50   the trap but I'm probably still gonna be [TS]

00:41:51   okay here because all the desktop [TS]

00:41:53   operational to and you know it's just [TS]

00:41:55   everything on top of things on top of [TS]

00:41:57   things and it makes sense with the plot [TS]

00:41:59   of the movie that and why does he want [TS]

00:42:02   the good guy to get pissed off why [TS]

00:42:03   didn't you just kill well in this case [TS]

00:42:04   he doesn't want to kill him unless he [TS]

00:42:05   can't be turned and he does want to piss [TS]

00:42:07   them off if that's how he wants to turn [TS]

00:42:08   him so for once it finally makes sense [TS]

00:42:10   this type of my hog ya know it works and [TS]

00:42:12   he's in it plays against Luke's kind of [TS]

00:42:16   arrogance that he had through the movie [TS]

00:42:17   of like I've got it figured out that [TS]

00:42:19   this is your last chance right now it's [TS]

00:42:21   not it's not arrogance he was he was he [TS]

00:42:23   was confident and he made this bold play [TS]

00:42:25   and now I mean he's here screwed over [TS]

00:42:28   confident he's just kind of finally [TS]

00:42:30   right this is the final battle and he's [TS]

00:42:31   right up against the final battle he [TS]

00:42:33   knew it would be difficult and lonely [TS]

00:42:34   old is difficult it's a boss fight [TS]

00:42:36   yes here's the body is the box of the [TS]

00:42:39   level of the galaxy [TS]

00:42:41   i also like as from a cinematographic [TS]

00:42:43   standpoint i love that scene where Vader [TS]

00:42:45   and Luke first come up we've got like [TS]

00:42:46   the red the lights coming up the [TS]

00:42:48   elevator and then because I got that [TS]

00:42:49   frame paused on my screen right now [TS]

00:42:51   because i was about to say that yeah I [TS]

00:42:53   think it's a great shot [TS]

00:42:55   it's just said something about the two [TS]

00:42:56   of them standing there in both of the [TS]

00:42:57   black and there's like a foot and the [TS]

00:42:59   difference between their heights and and [TS]

00:43:01   you can tell like even though it looks [TS]

00:43:03   cut off the shoulders you can tell he's [TS]

00:43:04   handcuffed because [TS]

00:43:05   there's a kind of together you know he's [TS]

00:43:06   never gonna be as tall as debt said his [TS]

00:43:10   dads on like big metal legs make them [TS]

00:43:13   taller and lifts know what you're [TS]

00:43:14   talking about [TS]

00:43:15   I the and we also were coming were [TS]

00:43:19   coming back to the cutting back to the [TS]

00:43:21   fleet and this is when the trap is [TS]

00:43:25   sprung out [TS]

00:43:26   wait what I again the great i love i [TS]

00:43:28   love the anything with Lando in the [TS]

00:43:30   Millennium Falcon and his little love [TS]

00:43:31   Italian alien fanatic Italian he's [TS]

00:43:33   celestin okay and he's wearing a han [TS]

00:43:37   Solo best know the bad but he needs to [TS]

00:43:40   wear the vest alright become important [TS]

00:43:42   you gotta wear the vest is for the [TS]

00:43:43   hazing process the dress code [TS]

00:43:45   it's and it's so flimsy it's like a [TS]

00:43:47   little it's not providing any help any [TS]

00:43:49   it's purely for show again he's the he's [TS]

00:43:52   the guy who doesn't speak English who [TS]

00:43:53   provides like context for that every day [TS]

00:43:56   no no we got to be able to get a reading [TS]

00:43:58   on it up or down alright and i got a [TS]

00:44:00   beautiful shot with pulling upward oh [TS]

00:44:02   yeah and I was it that scene where [TS]

00:44:04   they'll peel away from the oh man I love [TS]

00:44:06   that it's such a great shot with the [TS]

00:44:07   falkens like whoa this is like the [TS]

00:44:10   example an empire where you've got that [TS]

00:44:12   you know okay then just seen the [TS]

00:44:13   Millennium Falcon was flying to an [TS]

00:44:14   asteroid does that big pirouette well [TS]

00:44:16   same thing here on the scene the fleet [TS]

00:44:17   has to go towards the shield realizes [TS]

00:44:18   there and turn back but they've turned [TS]

00:44:20   back and graceful beautiful way you know [TS]

00:44:23   they it everything is done artfully no [TS]

00:44:26   ships and chips do not maneuver like [TS]

00:44:27   taxi drivers driving through the city [TS]

00:44:29   everything is Grace and art and [TS]

00:44:31   interesting camera angles and drama i [TS]

00:44:34   think that this this battle will forever [TS]

00:44:36   be my favorite space battle [TS]

00:44:38   yeah even if it stands up it may be the [TS]

00:44:42   base best space battle ever and are [TS]

00:44:45   constructed the original affect student [TS]

00:44:47   at and they've got some limitations but [TS]

00:44:49   I just an amazing achievement and they [TS]

00:44:51   still look great there's so many [TS]

00:44:53   different objects [TS]

00:44:55   this is the one thing that stuck with me [TS]

00:44:56   and when i left the movie what when i [TS]

00:44:59   saw it originally was those scenes of [TS]

00:45:01   those ships flying around it's not just [TS]

00:45:03   like two ships right it's like dozens of [TS]

00:45:05   ships as good as as as iconic of god [TS]

00:45:09   Greg NASA's gonna kill me as iconic as [TS]

00:45:11   the first Death Star pedal is that the [TS]

00:45:14   rough edges show right like crazy even [TS]

00:45:16   though his special edition there's [TS]

00:45:17   there's plenty of match shots and stuff [TS]

00:45:19   here there's there's one or two that I [TS]

00:45:21   think are really kind of you know maybe [TS]

00:45:23   glaring i think that the scene where the [TS]

00:45:25   executor falls into the death star [TS]

00:45:27   there's a scene that's a little off the [TS]

00:45:30   scales a little wrong but other than [TS]

00:45:32   that it's almost note-perfect entire [TS]

00:45:34   fight and you know it seems real and it [TS]

00:45:38   holds up as run was saying you know like [TS]

00:45:39   it looks now as real to me as it did [TS]

00:45:41   when i saw it you know 30 years ago I [TS]

00:45:45   think the key to it being exciting is a [TS]

00:45:48   limitations because they couldn't have [TS]

00:45:51   as many shut cool shots of the ships [TS]

00:45:54   flying basically so the few shots they [TS]

00:45:57   do have any if you were to cut it [TS]

00:45:58   together say how many ships how many [TS]

00:46:00   motion-control shots are there are two [TS]

00:46:01   optically composited ships it's very few [TS]

00:46:04   of them and there's a lot of interior [TS]

00:46:05   stuff of people talking and things [TS]

00:46:07   happening and so if you could only have [TS]

00:46:09   you know 2750 however many there are [TS]

00:46:12   shots of shit ships going every one of [TS]

00:46:14   those shots composed to be the most [TS]

00:46:17   exciting most dramatic most interesting [TS]

00:46:19   able to read the action a small number [TS]

00:46:23   of frames to tell what's going on but [TS]

00:46:24   also be exciting because you don't get [TS]

00:46:26   that many of you can't have okay for [TS]

00:46:28   this entire battle we're going to be in [TS]

00:46:29   third person following spaceships around [TS]

00:46:31   because they just simply didn't have the [TS]

00:46:32   budget for that you couldn't do it you [TS]

00:46:33   had to piece it out every every time [TS]

00:46:35   they cut from close up of people in [TS]

00:46:36   cockpit two ships flying around it's the [TS]

00:46:38   most amazing thing you've ever seen [TS]

00:46:39   ships do you know well anyway and they [TS]

00:46:42   don't overburden it right like you know [TS]

00:46:43   I was thinking you know what our space [TS]

00:46:45   battles that have come since that you [TS]

00:46:47   know one of the most recent ones will [TS]

00:46:48   take this the star trek reboot you know [TS]

00:46:50   some great special effects but at the [TS]

00:46:52   same time a lot of the battles there [TS]

00:46:54   feel overburdened in the sense that [TS]

00:46:56   there's just too much going too much [TS]

00:46:58   they're making it like everything's like [TS]

00:47:00   like like Normandy right like where it's [TS]

00:47:02   just like ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod and in [TS]

00:47:05   this one you know they do a great job is [TS]

00:47:06   John saying I'm like limiting in on [TS]

00:47:08   certain maneuvers or shit and shines are [TS]

00:47:10   going to follow like here's the sky [TS]

00:47:11   chasing this person [TS]

00:47:12   here's what the money Falcon is up to [TS]

00:47:14   here is what you know random a wing and [TS]

00:47:16   why we're up to you to show and eating [TS]

00:47:17   they're trying to show you you know [TS]

00:47:19   there are characters right like their [TS]

00:47:21   characters within the space flight no [TS]

00:47:23   way that right and tiny manager stories [TS]

00:47:25   like yeah we're trying to convey that [TS]

00:47:27   the fleet is overmatched we're trying to [TS]

00:47:29   convey that in the guy you the guy who [TS]

00:47:31   crashes into [TS]

00:47:32   a the bridge right now you get shot me [TS]

00:47:34   crazy but we know it is it's easy to [TS]

00:47:36   draw a linear line there 4gb just be [TS]

00:47:38   like out there is there goes down I felt [TS]

00:47:40   that thing all that made that happen up [TS]

00:47:42   and and the result of his actions is the [TS]

00:47:44   you know thing goes away you know that [TS]

00:47:46   it's it's very well come together to let [TS]

00:47:48   you you know you can't you couldn't draw [TS]

00:47:50   a coherent picture of the battle but [TS]

00:47:51   each each one of the scenes you know why [TS]

00:47:54   they're showing this to you not just [TS]

00:47:55   because the coolship flying around but [TS]

00:47:56   because it's an important event in the [TS]

00:47:58   battle is that is turning the tide of [TS]

00:47:59   the battle is a character that we care [TS]

00:48:01   about doing something or something like [TS]

00:48:03   that you know it's not just and a bunch [TS]

00:48:05   of ships run at each other and a bunch [TS]

00:48:06   of lights flash until at the end [TS]

00:48:07   somebody wins the UH this at this point [TS]

00:48:11   the movie we really we have three things [TS]

00:48:13   happening simultaneously with a lot of [TS]

00:48:14   quick cuts so its act rather than jump [TS]

00:48:18   around and quick cut between them we [TS]

00:48:20   should probably address them in turn [TS]

00:48:22   we've got the battle down on the on what [TS]

00:48:26   we got the space battle which we talked [TS]

00:48:27   about which I at the toward the end of [TS]

00:48:32   it the flying into the superstructure [TS]

00:48:34   don't have the Death Star comes online [TS]

00:48:36   and starts blowing okay so its front for [TS]

00:48:39   okay first off it's it's and that [TS]

00:48:40   happens you know coming back for that [TS]

00:48:42   the this fully operational station maha [TS]

00:48:46   where it's obviously business you know [TS]

00:48:48   they've been playing whoa [TS]

00:48:50   they've been playing possum fright it's [TS]

00:48:53   like well we're gonna build the the big [TS]

00:48:55   gun yeah we finished all our life [TS]

00:48:57   support and like you know there's not [TS]

00:48:59   like place for people to sleep there's [TS]

00:49:00   no bathrooms but the gun work yeah [TS]

00:49:02   there's a big pit over here there's a [TS]

00:49:03   giant pit that if you if you go over the [TS]

00:49:05   railing here you fall and forget this [TS]

00:49:08   ever HAP I keep meaning to cover them [TS]

00:49:09   but big green beam boom and we get out [TS]

00:49:12   we get read reuse footage there too [TS]

00:49:14   which is an interesting little move they [TS]

00:49:16   I think they flip part of it but they we [TS]

00:49:19   have the same scenes from ya firing it [TS]

00:49:21   up that we have yeah I'm started the [TS]

00:49:23   guys in the helmets and I don't and [TS]

00:49:25   interesting out there's also reuse music [TS]

00:49:27   during the superstructure fight as [TS]

00:49:30   they're flying in [TS]

00:49:31   it's a great moment where they where [TS]

00:49:33   they blast one of the one of the rebel [TS]

00:49:35   ships and Lando has the you know fly by [TS]

00:49:37   the big flight flight is the big ships [TS]

00:49:39   because then they won't shoot at them [TS]

00:49:40   because they'll blow them up and that's [TS]

00:49:42   a nice space tactics and then I love the [TS]

00:49:44   scene as the flying super [TS]

00:49:46   sure there's the and the Falcon looses [TS]

00:49:48   its its dish that was too close right is [TS]

00:49:51   that capital ship like goes nose-first [TS]

00:49:54   into the Death Star [TS]

00:49:56   yeah the examiner yet and it was also [TS]

00:49:58   filled with kerosene love that I also i [TS]

00:50:01   love the fact that wedge gets to be the [TS]

00:50:03   hero and this one is like already on my [TS]

00:50:06   way out oh yeah I had to leave the last [TS]

00:50:08   fight this that sucked [TS]

00:50:10   oh and i enjoyed that the guys who are [TS]

00:50:12   flying the Giants Super Star Destroyer r [TS]

00:50:14   is Admiral Piett still from Empire [TS]

00:50:17   Strikes Back makes it this far but alas [TS]

00:50:19   no further although I said fall when all [TS]

00:50:23   their gravity enabling goes straight [TS]

00:50:25   into the controls everything why is it [TS]

00:50:27   always the gravity of the desktop [TS]

00:50:29   okay that works ok that works in a [TS]

00:50:31   reasonable doubt and also because that [TS]

00:50:32   enable metaphor and they want to look [TS]

00:50:34   like the ship isn't it looks awesome but [TS]

00:50:36   like it's one of those things that you [TS]

00:50:37   know someone mentioned to me at some [TS]

00:50:38   point it's like you can't unsee it at [TS]

00:50:40   the engine [TS]

00:50:41   well I didn't think I like about them [TS]

00:50:42   going into the Death Star is it again I [TS]

00:50:44   i can't recall a a space ship moving [TS]

00:50:49   scene that has a better sense of speed [TS]

00:50:51   and motion in danger than those ships [TS]

00:50:53   flying through that place and it's not [TS]

00:50:54   gonna because i spent many hours and [TS]

00:50:56   rogue leader trying to get through that [TS]

00:50:57   same thing just before the gamecube [TS]

00:50:59   existed that it you know it's just a [TS]

00:51:01   camera a camera moving through a [TS]

00:51:02   miniature but like they knew what looked [TS]

00:51:04   good you know the miniature has many [TS]

00:51:05   repeated structures especially the [TS]

00:51:07   ending part that un dia into that open [TS]

00:51:08   big open room the fly away from the [TS]

00:51:11   explosion appears and goes much faster [TS]

00:51:13   than the ships that were going away from [TS]

00:51:14   it you know that that that whole [TS]

00:51:16   sequence of the ships flying in there [TS]

00:51:17   and flying back out is so much more [TS]

00:51:19   exciting than any of the the cg computer [TS]

00:51:22   stuff that I see most of these days and [TS]

00:51:23   I don't even know why it's not a [TS]

00:51:25   limitation because that's all motion [TS]

00:51:26   control they spend lots of budget flying [TS]

00:51:29   little cameras and models through a [TS]

00:51:30   little pieces of the Death Star [TS]

00:51:32   well that's and that's why it is because [TS]

00:51:34   it's not fake because part of your brain [TS]

00:51:36   knows it's hard you know I think it's [TS]

00:51:38   like the only thing I could think of was [TS]

00:51:40   similar to that is some of the pics are [TS]

00:51:41   active stuff in the incredibles we're [TS]

00:51:43   not that it looks the same or anything [TS]

00:51:45   but like a baby they chose to do camera [TS]

00:51:47   moves and [TS]

00:51:48   and and you know actions and framing of [TS]

00:51:51   framing of the action is going on each [TS]

00:51:53   scene each little section each cut to be [TS]

00:51:56   dramatic or interesting in a particular [TS]

00:51:57   way instead of just getting ok here's [TS]

00:51:59   the ship flying and what kind of follow [TS]

00:52:01   it you know like that are artfully done [TS]

00:52:03   actually the saucer chase through the [TS]

00:52:05   jungle and no Madison is a coat total [TS]

00:52:07   homage to return of the jedi me i would [TS]

00:52:10   say so there is a there is a connection [TS]

00:52:13   with the incredibles let's talk about [TS]

00:52:15   the back on the forest moon [TS]

00:52:18   this is this is when the the Ewoks join [TS]

00:52:22   the fight against the stormtroopers they [TS]

00:52:23   have an entire Legion of troopers i was [TS]

00:52:26   struck and how suddenly it turns into [TS]

00:52:27   the Lord of the Rings except with teddy [TS]

00:52:29   bears but the Lord of it here and [TS]

00:52:32   suddenly it's a you know you've got [TS]

00:52:34   these battles with the with these it's [TS]

00:52:37   lord of the rings that these guys if [TS]

00:52:38   swords and and heavy things [TS]

00:52:42   Trebuchet days well I like the fact that [TS]

00:52:44   it's not that they do have they do have [TS]

00:52:46   the the change in the tide of battle [TS]

00:52:48   here like gave you are coming they have [TS]

00:52:50   the scene of going [TS]

00:52:51   yeah and they have sticks and these guys [TS]

00:52:53   and the eyes and a testy isn't laser [TS]

00:52:55   guns and so they basically are starting [TS]

00:52:57   to be slaughtered you know it's only [TS]

00:52:59   through the the heroics of the script [TS]

00:53:01   and Chewbacca noise Chewbacca the tide [TS]

00:53:04   has turned slightly but right now they [TS]

00:53:05   do like they try many different things [TS]

00:53:06   to stop the at-st is like putting the [TS]

00:53:09   ropes around like that doesn't work and [TS]

00:53:11   throw rocks at things that just pisses [TS]

00:53:12   that they just smashed between the wall [TS]

00:53:14   yeah but eventually they got like a what [TS]

00:53:15   does where they they drop the they drop [TS]

00:53:18   the logs yeah so that's it like it was a [TS]

00:53:20   clear purpose so they try like five [TS]

00:53:22   tactics and only two of them actually [TS]

00:53:23   work but it's enough their primitive [TS]

00:53:25   they have to work have to work up to it [TS]

00:53:27   and um the other thing that I that I've [TS]

00:53:29   noticed and is painful in the in the in [TS]

00:53:33   the bad category here is the Ewok [TS]

00:53:36   swinging on a vine making me Tarzan cod [TS]

00:53:38   that's actually Chewbacca oh is this [TS]

00:53:40   your pockets that is that could be the [TS]

00:53:42   lowest point of this entire movie [TS]

00:53:43   embarrassing it's worse than a wilhelm [TS]

00:53:47   scream there oh that was the other [TS]

00:53:49   really laughter wilhelm is they have [TS]

00:53:51   there when they have this is a good hot [TS]

00:53:53   sauce in there you have the the guy cums [TS]

00:53:56   stands in front of the little lightning [TS]

00:53:57   room [TS]

00:53:58   where the where the shield generator is [TS]

00:54:00   and Hansel throws a thing at a minute [TS]

00:54:02   he's like Duncan Idaho hit them in the [TS]

00:54:04   head he falls over the railing to up to [TS]

00:54:05   a huge Wilhelm as I believe he actually [TS]

00:54:08   throws the box with the detonator [TS]

00:54:10   charges yea yea it hit him in the head [TS]

00:54:14   he falls on the whirling yeah well I [TS]

00:54:17   also love this is another great example [TS]

00:54:19   of the fact that the worst the worst [TS]

00:54:20   thing you can say to somebody else in [TS]

00:54:22   the star wars universe is called the [TS]

00:54:23   scum you ask how many times can we got [TS]

00:54:26   wretched hive of scum ability we got [TS]

00:54:28   rebel scum [TS]

00:54:29   we've got my bounty hunter is my [TS]

00:54:31   favorite type my name is khan them thank [TS]

00:54:34   goodness they didn't call of scumbags [TS]

00:54:35   that would be worse [TS]

00:54:37   yeah actually scum is a slang word and [TS]

00:54:39   the star wars universe that means really [TS]

00:54:40   really awesome it's really yeah [TS]

00:54:42   oh IC awkward interesting I so so those [TS]

00:54:46   those two frames of battle are going on [TS]

00:54:48   and then bending the quieter from the [TS]

00:54:50   battle but still a pivotal is luke and [TS]

00:54:55   the Emperor interest in a strangely [TS]

00:54:57   passive Darth Vader which i think is [TS]

00:55:00   interesting when they keep coming back [TS]

00:55:01   to him and showing you Darth Vader and [TS]

00:55:03   you like his expression is not going to [TS]

00:55:05   change now that it's a mask right but [TS]

00:55:07   and yet like through head tilts and body [TS]

00:55:09   oh yeah and your own mapping of things [TS]

00:55:11   on during that you start to you start to [TS]

00:55:13   you know figure like he was he feeling [TS]

00:55:15   there something I can see it in his eyes [TS]

00:55:16   like advisor plastic little covers don't [TS]

00:55:18   see anything right but it's there and [TS]

00:55:20   there's a confrontation between Luke [TS]

00:55:21   invader which we know we had to have and [TS]

00:55:24   what what uh what my notes here have is [TS]

00:55:27   is what I've always wondered [TS]

00:55:30   the Emperor is really aching Luke on and [TS]

00:55:33   so my question is you know what is the [TS]

00:55:37   Emperor wanting here I mean it seems to [TS]

00:55:39   me like the Emperor's like go ahead and [TS]

00:55:41   kill Darth Vader now eat it [TS]

00:55:43   he doesn't care which one wins right you [TS]

00:55:45   just want them to fight if either way he [TS]

00:55:46   gets he gets the winner as you know if [TS]

00:55:48   his fader wins well then he did a good [TS]

00:55:50   job teaching Vader we're not able to [TS]

00:55:51   look problem with Luke wins while i [TS]

00:55:53   replace my old model with my new one [TS]

00:55:55   yeah although i think he wants to prefer [TS]

00:55:56   loop because again new models less [TS]

00:55:59   robotics young girl you you assume you [TS]

00:56:01   would assume the young guys going to win [TS]

00:56:03   right and i think that's a part of [TS]

00:56:05   Vader's character i think is that I [TS]

00:56:07   Vader knows what's up he knows you know [TS]

00:56:09   I mean he's not ignorant of the Sith and [TS]

00:56:11   how this whole thing works right well he [TS]

00:56:13   tried the same thing right [TS]

00:56:14   and most importantly rule the Galaxy [TS]

00:56:16   together as father and son [TS]

00:56:17   yeah but Vader's kind of pissed is like [TS]

00:56:19   he's got this thing of like Luke wanting [TS]

00:56:21   to turn over but the other hand is kind [TS]

00:56:23   of insulted he's like he's not going to [TS]

00:56:25   defeat me I'm Darth Vader like he's got [TS]

00:56:27   a certain sense of all the Emperor [TS]

00:56:29   assumes you're going to win because [TS]

00:56:30   you're young and powerful and stuff like [TS]

00:56:31   that but I totally have something to [TS]

00:56:33   prove here to both myself and the [TS]

00:56:35   Emperor to go see you thought that you [TS]

00:56:36   were going to bring in this new jetta [TS]

00:56:37   hybrid gonna kick his butt anyway [TS]

00:56:38   because I'm Darth Vader and like that's [TS]

00:56:40   all mixed up and his you know feelings [TS]

00:56:43   for the situation but but yeah this is [TS]

00:56:44   this this ending sequences fascinating [TS]

00:56:47   to me because i can't recall seeing [TS]

00:56:49   anything like this since and it's [TS]

00:56:51   amazing that work is it in this tense [TS]

00:56:53   part of the scene here what's going on [TS]

00:56:55   is that Lucas is brought under President [TS]

00:56:57   prisoners been taken away and the bad [TS]

00:56:59   guy is trying to lure him into attacking [TS]

00:57:01   my cell you want your lightsaber come [TS]

00:57:03   and attack me strike me down I'm unarmed [TS]

00:57:04   all that business right [TS]

00:57:07   I and it's not trick it's not a trap [TS]

00:57:09   it's not like Oh soon as you grab his [TS]

00:57:11   lightsaber he's gonna die and the [TS]

00:57:12   Emperor could kill him at any moment on [TS]

00:57:13   video walk over and stabbed he's got no [TS]

00:57:15   lightsaber you know he he wants me to [TS]

00:57:16   fight for this with other reason and the [TS]

00:57:19   our hero is trying not to fight [TS]

00:57:22   yeah he's he's trying not to fight the [TS]

00:57:25   easy to say oh you want me to have a [TS]

00:57:27   land at in the audience like you would [TS]

00:57:29   think wouldn't the kids to be saying i [TS]

00:57:30   have a lightsaber and how lightsaber [TS]

00:57:32   battle but they construct it so well [TS]

00:57:33   that but I remember being a kid going [TS]

00:57:35   no Luke don't take the lightsaber know [TS]

00:57:37   what kind of movie the third movie in a [TS]

00:57:39   trilogy of movies about people fighting [TS]

00:57:41   with lightsabers can you get you know [TS]

00:57:42   that you know it's seven-year-old kid to [TS]

00:57:44   go [TS]

00:57:44   no Luke don't take the lightsaber that's [TS]

00:57:47   a pretty amazing feat at you know that [TS]

00:57:49   the fact that they can get you to that [TS]

00:57:51   point is just boggles my mind didn't [TS]

00:57:53   think about it was a kid and think about [TS]

00:57:54   like you're rooting for him not to take [TS]

00:57:56   the engine want to see light Sarah don't [TS]

00:57:58   you want to see them fight they've done [TS]

00:58:00   a really great job of sort of you know [TS]

00:58:01   in in you know instilling you those Jedi [TS]

00:58:04   you know the Jedi traits that we've [TS]

00:58:06   gotten from Yoda right all right just [TS]

00:58:07   that that's what the bad guy wants and [TS]

00:58:09   you know it and you don't want him to [TS]

00:58:11   give in this whole scene is like this [TS]

00:58:12   tension he's such a jerk about it is [TS]

00:58:14   like you know you want this like no no I [TS]

00:58:16   don't want that you let me just give you [TS]

00:58:18   the lightsaber I'm gonna put in your [TS]

00:58:19   hand turn it up going back to Luke and [TS]

00:58:22   you can [TS]

00:58:23   he's like [TS]

00:58:24   you know it's like awkward position [TS]

00:58:27   frustrate your friends are dying out [TS]

00:58:29   there we've got him down on the planet [TS]

00:58:31   they get to that scene where he's [TS]

00:58:32   watching it through the for the window [TS]

00:58:34   right like you start to sweat and he's [TS]

00:58:36   like look at the lightsabers like a crap [TS]

00:58:38   i am too am totally in over my head be I [TS]

00:58:41   totally miscalculated this entire [TS]

00:58:42   situation yeah maybe I can fight my way [TS]

00:58:45   out of here but i wot told me I really [TS]

00:58:46   shouldn't do that so we finally he [TS]

00:58:48   finally goes over the edge he pulls the [TS]

00:58:50   lightsaber and although if you watch [TS]

00:58:51   that it seems like he and the Emperor [TS]

00:58:53   are further apart and then there's one [TS]

00:58:56   shot where it's like they're standing [TS]

00:58:58   next to each other and yeah well that's [TS]

00:59:01   the ultimate badass scene for the [TS]

00:59:02   Emperor though because he doesn't move [TS]

00:59:04   at all [TS]

00:59:05   no nose look it's gonna take it and he [TS]

00:59:07   knows his faithful henchmen who he [TS]

00:59:08   trained so well over all these years you [TS]

00:59:11   know stop the lights it for me and my [TS]

00:59:12   face and he does and he does and he's [TS]

00:59:15   laughing I mean and which is funny [TS]

00:59:16   because because Vader was the one trying [TS]

00:59:18   to get Luke to join of right so what if [TS]

00:59:20   you just been like map there's one way [TS]

00:59:22   to accomplish my goals and kill the [TS]

00:59:24   Emperor we're good [TS]

00:59:25   that's why it's such a amazing [TS]

00:59:26   confidence he he knew that Vader would [TS]

00:59:29   do that and the reason I think better [TS]

00:59:30   does that is because Vader still has [TS]

00:59:32   that feeling like I'm gonna prove to the [TS]

00:59:34   Emperor that i'm actually the best guy [TS]

00:59:35   and yeah that i'm the most powerful and [TS]

00:59:37   all you know i'm not going too late for [TS]

00:59:39   me also it was a life-debt in a way to [TS]

00:59:41   the Emperor because the Emperor's want [TS]

00:59:42   to you know basically saved him more or [TS]

00:59:45   less [TS]

00:59:45   I don't know what you're talking about I [TS]

00:59:47   mean yeah that's no I'm saying wholly [TS]

00:59:49   unfounded that's sort of a Talmudic [TS]

00:59:50   interpretation there so a the music [TS]

00:59:55   swells and it isn't theirs [TS]

00:59:57   there are a few moments here where it's [TS]

00:59:58   really almost all music [TS]

00:59:58   really almost all music [TS]

01:00:00   as it's sort of overwhelms you and Luke [TS]

01:00:03   the the just there's that scene where [TS]

01:00:06   Luke just is makin rings with his [TS]

01:00:09   lightsaber and is just smashing into [TS]

01:00:12   darth vader and this is that defeat of [TS]

01:00:14   Darth Vader it's so i can play it back [TS]

01:00:17   in my mind it's so shocking and it gets [TS]

01:00:19   prompted by the fact that you know Luke [TS]

01:00:22   is basically gone totally defensive [TS]

01:00:24   right he's hiding is yeah will not fight [TS]

01:00:27   you yeah he refused to fight this is a [TS]

01:00:29   scene I I reacted with a friend I'm [TS]

01:00:31   points because we've both gotten those [TS]

01:00:32   lights over toys when you're like 17 it [TS]

01:00:35   was awesome and so you know he's he's [TS]

01:00:37   hiding and he's like in the dark when we [TS]

01:00:39   get those shots of him just like yeah [TS]

01:00:41   clearly freaked out right he's like man [TS]

01:00:43   I'm not gonna be able to get out of this [TS]

01:00:45   invaders stalking him and and so then he [TS]

01:00:48   starts to probe into his mind starts [TS]

01:00:50   getting into his head right and since [TS]

01:00:52   the one thing that you that been told [TS]

01:00:55   them don't bury those feelings and looks [TS]

01:00:58   like you got yeah he's thinking of a [TS]

01:01:00   pink elephant you can see it on this [TS]

01:01:01   device really gotta say yeah and that is [TS]

01:01:03   a great team where you again having more [TS]

01:01:05   credit to handle for just being like Oh [TS]

01:01:07   can't not think about this and we get [TS]

01:01:11   you know Vader needling him in finding [TS]

01:01:13   that bet one really vulnerable spot is [TS]

01:01:16   are the one thing that he's going to try [TS]

01:01:18   incredibly hard to protect and the one [TS]

01:01:20   thing that's going to push him over the [TS]

01:01:21   edge and yes as you're saying then it [TS]

01:01:25   turns into the scene is just it's brutal [TS]

01:01:27   is the word that always in my mind right [TS]

01:01:29   now because he's just he's lost all [TS]

01:01:31   attempts at finesse or any of the skills [TS]

01:01:34   he seemed to have learned he's just [TS]

01:01:35   smashing is just wailing on him [TS]

01:01:38   wales autonomy and you've got sad [TS]

01:01:39   chanting music items of your growing [TS]

01:01:41   monks or whatever it's sad human voice [TS]

01:01:44   chanting music to go with with the said [TS]

01:01:47   orchestral music so here is here is are [TS]

01:01:49   seeing where we have if you were to tell [TS]

01:01:51   someone watching a new hope that at the [TS]

01:01:52   end of the third movie Luke Skywalker is [TS]

01:01:55   going to be winning and a lightsaber [TS]

01:01:56   battle against darth vader and you're [TS]

01:01:58   just going to stop and they're going to [TS]

01:01:59   be playing set they're gonna be playing [TS]

01:02:01   sad music and he's going to be and this [TS]

01:02:04   is you're not gonna be happy about this [TS]

01:02:05   you in the audience are going to be said [TS]

01:02:07   that he is winning in the lightsaber [TS]

01:02:09   battle against Darth Vader makes no [TS]

01:02:11   sense makes absolutely no sense yet [TS]

01:02:13   this point in the movie you are sad for [TS]

01:02:15   Luke and you you see him winning the [TS]

01:02:17   fight but losing the the battle with you [TS]

01:02:21   know it's just it's completely amazing [TS]

01:02:23   this entire scene where he he's [TS]

01:02:24   constantly trying not to fight him if [TS]

01:02:26   you can you think of another movie where [TS]

01:02:27   the hero repeatedly refuses to fight and [TS]

01:02:29   you don't see him as a coward a chicken [TS]

01:02:31   or you are rooting for him to fight [TS]

01:02:32   anyway and maybe they're people who are [TS]

01:02:34   watching this movie were like I hated it [TS]

01:02:35   when you get thrown as lightsaber I [TS]

01:02:36   wanted to just fight but certain that's [TS]

01:02:38   not me and I am I think this movie works [TS]

01:02:41   for young kids and all kids alike well [TS]

01:02:43   that's what takes it [TS]

01:02:44   that's what takes it to the net to to a [TS]

01:02:45   higher level than so much of those [TS]

01:02:47   movies i think is that there is so much [TS]

01:02:48   conflict in the way that you feel about [TS]

01:02:51   it and the fact that it does perform [TS]

01:02:53   this 180 degree turn where the person [TS]

01:02:56   who I mean again just for me you know [TS]

01:02:58   watching from the first movie [TS]

01:02:59   hey there's gonna be a point the third [TS]

01:03:01   movie were like you really sympathize [TS]

01:03:04   with darth vader and you don't seem as [TS]

01:03:06   just I mean he set up to be the most [TS]

01:03:07   evil person right like four strokes [TS]

01:03:10   people in a boardroom meeting [TS]

01:03:11   yeah i mean like he wears all black he's [TS]

01:03:14   a dick [TS]

01:03:15   you know like yeah and and yet and yet I [TS]

01:03:18   but at the end he know we're not that [TS]

01:03:21   we've got quite the end but he's he is [TS]

01:03:23   he's the hero and his death is a tragedy [TS]

01:03:26   and if you tell somebody that after [TS]

01:03:28   seeing Star Wars you like are you crazy [TS]

01:03:30   it's like no and say he's the hero Lucas [TS]

01:03:33   the hero [TS]

01:03:34   no no no it's the heroic journey of you [TS]

01:03:37   know it'sit's Vader's journey from to [TS]

01:03:40   redemption right the redemption path and [TS]

01:03:42   that I i think i think that's are a lot [TS]

01:03:44   of retconning and there to put up as he [TS]

01:03:47   has the final rock tax he's very [TS]

01:03:48   important this is kind of the story of [TS]

01:03:50   him but it's the the colleges look story [TS]

01:03:52   and that overall had hit the mannequin [TS]

01:03:55   stories and plateaus and yet no yeah [TS]

01:03:58   well I actually think it's diminished by [TS]

01:04:00   the someplace else but no I totally [TS]

01:04:01   totally diminished i would argue i would [TS]

01:04:04   argue that that ending that whole thing [TS]

01:04:08   is about it's about Luke refusing to [TS]

01:04:13   make the action that will turn him to [TS]

01:04:15   the dark side it is simultaneously about [TS]

01:04:18   Vader choosing to take that action and [TS]

01:04:21   turn away from the dark side and he [TS]

01:04:24   sacrifices himself [TS]

01:04:26   off to kill the Emperor he's the one who [TS]

01:04:28   kills the Emperor right it's it's not [TS]

01:04:31   our hero Luke who makes the decisive act [TS]

01:04:34   that ends the story [TS]

01:04:36   darth vader does a hero Luke does when [TS]

01:04:38   he was trained to do on his hearing [TS]

01:04:40   that's why this thing works is because [TS]

01:04:41   throughout all of his training all three [TS]

01:04:44   movies [TS]

01:04:44   everyone is actually told him actually [TS]

01:04:46   it's not all about killing the other guy [TS]

01:04:47   actually it's not all about finding [TS]

01:04:49   actually just a more kind of into you [TS]

01:04:50   know knowledge and defense never to [TS]

01:04:52   attack like and Empire yoda yoda kept [TS]

01:04:55   hammering that interested he didn't say [TS]

01:04:57   you have to go kill Vader you're [TS]

01:04:58   confronted because him otherwise how [TS]

01:05:00   will you know whether you're a good guy [TS]

01:05:01   or bad guys you can control these things [TS]

01:05:03   and some very clear consistent message [TS]

01:05:05   that you just don't buy in the first [TS]

01:05:06   like kids are like yeah yeah knowledge [TS]

01:05:08   in defense yeah that'd be some reason [TS]

01:05:10   why he has to fight him right and [TS]

01:05:11   because we as the audience don't don't [TS]

01:05:13   understand this whole like what do you [TS]

01:05:14   mean yeah alright some knowledge of [TS]

01:05:15   Defense you're a good guy yet karate is [TS]

01:05:17   only supposed to be used for defense but [TS]

01:05:18   in all the karate movies they beat [TS]

01:05:19   people up we're all excited by this [TS]

01:05:21   movie in the end you don't know we were [TS]

01:05:22   serious about that stuff about knowledge [TS]

01:05:24   and events never attack we were serious [TS]

01:05:26   about that and the way Luke wins here is [TS]

01:05:28   by not fighting no seriously not [TS]

01:05:30   fighting at well then how is he going to [TS]

01:05:32   defeat the Empire he's not Vader's going [TS]

01:05:34   to use a climactic Sam you know we sort [TS]

01:05:36   of you know glossed over but that scene [TS]

01:05:38   right where it cuts off you know [TS]

01:05:40   Vader's hand yes exactly like you know [TS]

01:05:42   we saw the end of empire obviously and [TS]

01:05:44   then he we've got that finally the [TS]

01:05:46   payoff of that little you're like your [TS]

01:05:48   father of the mechanical hand thing I [TS]

01:05:50   love it's very subtle and I don't [TS]

01:05:52   remember how much of this was added in [TS]

01:05:53   the special edition but he flexes his [TS]

01:05:55   hand and then at least in the addition [TS]

01:05:57   in the the unspecialized addition there [TS]

01:05:59   is a little like a like a candle sounds [TS]

01:06:02   very subtle though and you know we [TS]

01:06:04   finally put all those pieces together [TS]

01:06:06   and get like manual he really is train [TS]

01:06:08   this guy and we get the payoff of the [TS]

01:06:10   cave scene from Empire even more than at [TS]

01:06:13   the end of empire we get the really like [TS]

01:06:15   you you are having your Vader right if [TS]

01:06:18   you don't stop now you become Vader and [TS]

01:06:21   that is your destiny [TS]

01:06:22   it's like and it's pretty close like one [TS]

01:06:24   more slice into then his head going off [TS]

01:06:26   right right the thing about that shot [TS]

01:06:27   when he's wailing on him there that is [TS]

01:06:29   an exact echo the scene from empire they [TS]

01:06:31   put them on a bridge in the am from [TS]

01:06:32   above and to the left [TS]

01:06:34   it's an exact mirror of the Empire scene [TS]

01:06:35   where they shoot those two on the bridge [TS]

01:06:37   only the roles are reversed [TS]

01:06:38   we are really really great [TS]

01:06:40   overall the way they frame that and we [TS]

01:06:42   get the i was going to say the it's just [TS]

01:06:45   the whole thing is so yeah there's such [TS]

01:06:47   a brutality and such an over-the-top and [TS]

01:06:49   this to it that that really plays to it [TS]

01:06:51   though and you're just watching a gate [TS]

01:06:52   but i just love you know and then we get [TS]

01:06:54   that scene right where he looks at it [TS]

01:06:56   thinks about it throws down the [TS]

01:06:58   lightsaber you know I would want to say [TS]

01:07:01   peace out [TS]

01:07:02   no yeah I'm a Jedi like stuff like my [TS]

01:07:05   father by that little head not go be it [TS]

01:07:07   so be my little head not the him you [TS]

01:07:09   know that the loop does like in gestures [TS]

01:07:11   back to his who is dead [TS]

01:07:13   I'm a Jedi like my father before me and [TS]

01:07:15   then you see the upper just being like [TS]

01:07:17   Nathan payoff [TS]

01:07:18   yeah hit his face drops and he's like so [TS]

01:07:21   be a Jedi and they cut to a different [TS]

01:07:22   scene so you're like has Luke one [TS]

01:07:24   because he says so guys like oh the [TS]

01:07:26   Emperor's admitting defeat that was on [TS]

01:07:28   the test [TS]

01:07:29   just kidding i'm like Willie walk right [TS]

01:07:32   now you get to take over the Empire [TS]

01:07:33   right [TS]

01:07:35   I you know the Emperor's plan was foiled [TS]

01:07:37   he really wanted this to happen and it [TS]

01:07:39   turns out shot and killed the other one [TS]

01:07:41   of them was kind of defeated but not [TS]

01:07:42   really i guess the Empire and I guess [TS]

01:07:44   the Emperor's all done easily go sulk [TS]

01:07:46   away and then they cut back to the [TS]

01:07:48   Emperor says if you will not be turned [TS]

01:07:50   you will be destroyed and lightning [TS]

01:07:52   comes from his hands Lightning comes [TS]

01:07:54   from his hands three movies three movies [TS]

01:07:56   universal Lightning comes from any of [TS]

01:07:58   his hands how many movies have the [TS]

01:07:59   patience to say we're gonna have the [TS]

01:08:01   force and what can you do with the [TS]

01:08:02   fourth we can jump really high you can [TS]

01:08:03   run fast and you can read people's minds [TS]

01:08:05   you can impose people and how about [TS]

01:08:06   lighting from the hands that would have [TS]

01:08:08   been in the first movie and every single [TS]

01:08:10   trailer but they wait for the third [TS]

01:08:11   movie total again total surprise call [TS]

01:08:13   the last 10 minutes do there's no [TS]

01:08:15   internet and no anything you're like [TS]

01:08:16   what lightning because he doesn't have a [TS]

01:08:19   lightsaber that you see at any point [TS]

01:08:20   during this thing is just this old guy [TS]

01:08:22   sitting in a chair right well and you [TS]

01:08:24   finally realized why he's so confident [TS]

01:08:26   young girl only at the end i get i get [TS]

01:08:28   your lighting up my hands I will not [TS]

01:08:30   only keep up the day through forced [TS]

01:08:33   joking [TS]

01:08:34   yeah yeah yeah and-and-and this entire [TS]

01:08:36   series saves the big bad guy the Emperor [TS]

01:08:38   for the end of the very last movie like [TS]

01:08:40   you hear the Emperor mentioned in new [TS]

01:08:42   hope you see him in a hologram in Empire [TS]

01:08:44   Strikes Back let's to home movies and [TS]

01:08:46   how many years and you finally get to [TS]

01:08:48   see him and Jedi and he doesn't do [TS]

01:08:49   anything until the end of [TS]

01:08:51   bye yep and yet it work he's gonna fight [TS]

01:08:53   it i know it's because that's that's [TS]

01:08:54   called radiation all about the President [TS]

01:08:56   and this there's a menace conveyed in [TS]

01:08:59   just his being there right he's a [TS]

01:09:01   dramatic threat not like a physical [TS]

01:09:03   threat until the end which is like oh [TS]

01:09:05   yeah he got jammed up didn't get to [TS]

01:09:07   being Emperor just by political [TS]

01:09:08   machination you know it turns out he's [TS]

01:09:11   also she was like me from as a yeah yeah [TS]

01:09:13   he sees Darth Vader's boss righty think [TS]

01:09:15   Darth Vader is bad [TS]

01:09:17   this guy is really really bad because [TS]

01:09:18   Darth Vader kneels before him and [TS]

01:09:20   doesn't matter does not shoot lightning [TS]

01:09:22   from his hands no he has just show [TS]

01:09:23   people and get coffee to fly through the [TS]

01:09:25   air because then and the best part of [TS]

01:09:27   the Emperor doing that as you can tell [TS]

01:09:29   while the Emperor's doing like this is [TS]

01:09:30   the end is like Amber's like well you [TS]

01:09:31   didn't defeat Vader you don't want to [TS]

01:09:33   fight i guess i have to kill you but he [TS]

01:09:35   enjoys his work he's like this is gonna [TS]

01:09:36   be fun i'm gonna make put in lots of [TS]

01:09:38   pain and kill my kids just wrapping up [TS]

01:09:40   the day's work [TS]

01:09:41   everything seems to be gone and he isn't [TS]

01:09:42   he he likes his work he likes killing [TS]

01:09:44   people he likes hurting people [TS]

01:09:46   he's evil is evil I mean he's fully [TS]

01:09:48   embraced all those things Yoda warned [TS]

01:09:50   him about he also wants to show Vader [TS]

01:09:52   you know that he's killing him because [TS]

01:09:54   Vader failed failed at that and I think [TS]

01:09:58   there's some say vism their of the you [TS]

01:10:00   know now I'm gonna kill your son right [TS]

01:10:01   in front of you because you know that's [TS]

01:10:04   what I do Walker you will get that nice [TS]

01:10:06   little detail like that when it gets me [TS]

01:10:08   every time is when you see the loop with [TS]

01:10:10   all the whitening and then there's that [TS]

01:10:11   one scene where is honest I'd sort of [TS]

01:10:13   like riding in pain and you see it go [TS]

01:10:14   like through the bridge of his mouth [TS]

01:10:16   like the reason you have I always pick [TS]

01:10:17   that up as a kid like he's got a [TS]

01:10:19   lightning braces [TS]

01:10:20   oh yeah so hammers so-so Darth Vader [TS]

01:10:25   finally takes action i love that scene [TS]

01:10:29   that was looking back and forth he's [TS]

01:10:31   like mm so then when Lucas on the ground [TS]

01:10:34   saying father please that the reason the [TS]

01:10:37   father please works is because they [TS]

01:10:40   managed to establish a relationship [TS]

01:10:42   between Luke invader like in the first [TS]

01:10:44   movie just like a glance as he's killing [TS]

01:10:45   obi-wan to the relationship is all [TS]

01:10:47   you're the mean guy who killed my mentor [TS]

01:10:48   and then you know they're kind of in a [TS]

01:10:49   space battle but they don't really know [TS]

01:10:50   that they're in the space battle [TS]

01:10:52   together and the second movie of course [TS]

01:10:53   he actually has the confrontation with [TS]

01:10:55   them in a dramatic revelation and that [TS]

01:10:56   makes their relationship way more [TS]

01:10:58   complicated and in this movie they they [TS]

01:11:00   meet again and have an even more [TS]

01:11:01   complicated things so when he's saying [TS]

01:11:03   father please it's not like [TS]

01:11:04   you can do this movie where Luke finds [TS]

01:11:07   out the vader is his father and only do [TS]

01:11:08   you ever do is fight and he says father [TS]

01:11:10   please save me you don't buy it is [TS]

01:11:11   you're like why would why would his [TS]

01:11:13   better care about this kid but they have [TS]

01:11:14   a relationship at this point a weird [TS]

01:11:16   relationship but there's an existing [TS]

01:11:18   relationship so it makes that father [TS]

01:11:20   please save me stuff not seem like he [TS]

01:11:22   would never why would he care about him [TS]

01:11:24   you know just because he's a son and [TS]

01:11:25   we're supposed to believe he does [TS]

01:11:26   they have an established relationship [TS]

01:11:27   and that that makes that that move [TS]

01:11:30   believable to me and not for a second [TS]

01:11:32   that I think he wouldn't say and I think [TS]

01:11:35   it's really important to that point he's [TS]

01:11:37   it's almost to a certain extent if he's [TS]

01:11:39   seeing the Emperor for the first time [TS]

01:11:40   right because you know he's sort of been [TS]

01:11:42   under the thrall of this guy and I think [TS]

01:11:45   in some ways I don't know if you want to [TS]

01:11:46   get like you know really psychological [TS]

01:11:48   about it the loss of his hand and stuff [TS]

01:11:50   and he too has a sort of realization of [TS]

01:11:52   where he is and so he sees this guy [TS]

01:11:55   basically just torturing his son and in [TS]

01:11:56   that moment you know be mean about it is [TS]

01:11:59   being mean about torturing his son the [TS]

01:12:01   wool is taken off his eyes and he's like [TS]

01:12:03   he's just a dad right like his son is [TS]

01:12:05   getting shot by a guy with lightning [TS]

01:12:07   from his hands right like I we've all [TS]

01:12:08   been there [TS]

01:12:08   well and if if Luke gets killed where is [TS]

01:12:12   there to go from better from here [TS]

01:12:13   well they're probably going to try and [TS]

01:12:14   chase that Leia and layers not gonna [TS]

01:12:16   turn so it's gonna be really hard to get [TS]

01:12:18   a promotion when your postures killed [TS]

01:12:21   your son is that were closed so the you [TS]

01:12:25   know he's seeing him in this moment [TS]

01:12:27   Vader is seeing his you know it's too [TS]

01:12:31   late for me son [TS]

01:12:32   this is this is the moment where he [TS]

01:12:33   realizes he can make choice and had [TS]

01:12:37   actually have an effect we're all before [TS]

01:12:40   he has been in the thrall of the Emperor [TS]

01:12:42   and been you know Here I made my [TS]

01:12:44   decision now I have to live with it he [TS]

01:12:46   gets that decision back here and the end [TS]

01:12:50   and makes the different decision and [TS]

01:12:52   although the motions right Luke is our [TS]

01:12:54   hero you know when I say that that [TS]

01:12:57   there's a hero and his death is a [TS]

01:12:58   tragedy and it's shocking that they've [TS]

01:13:00   turned it all the way around like that [TS]

01:13:02   my point is that Luke's what Luke does [TS]

01:13:04   step aside and allow Darth Vader to to [TS]

01:13:08   be the one who makes the change which is [TS]

01:13:11   which is not what you'd probably expect [TS]

01:13:13   from the end of this movie especially [TS]

01:13:16   given how we all feel [TS]

01:13:18   outdoor theater right going into it and [TS]

01:13:20   yet it's great because it's behind of a [TS]

01:13:22   sacrifice for Vader to do right because [TS]

01:13:24   it is he's keeping he's not just in [TS]

01:13:27   terms of his own life but he's basically [TS]

01:13:30   preventing Luke from getting his hands [TS]

01:13:31   dirty by having me killed this guy he's [TS]

01:13:34   saying he's the one committee you know [TS]

01:13:35   what I don't want my son to have the [TS]

01:13:36   burden of having you know murder this [TS]

01:13:38   guy so I'm going to take that upon [TS]

01:13:40   myself it's probably cements the [TS]

01:13:42   pacifist notion of Jedi that is [TS]

01:13:44   throughout all these movies is that the [TS]

01:13:46   Jedi you know it firmly cemented to say [TS]

01:13:49   that the Luke should not do that he [TS]

01:13:51   should rise to fight its kind of this [TS]

01:13:53   kind of reminds me of not to get [TS]

01:13:54   political or anything but like all the [TS]

01:13:56   you know the right-wing politicians who [TS]

01:13:59   profess faith in everything but if they [TS]

01:14:01   never want to do anything things that [TS]

01:14:02   Jesus taught in the Bible so that the [TS]

01:14:04   stories that the stories people focus on [TS]

01:14:06   Jesus helping the poor and everything in [TS]

01:14:07   the Bible it's a pretty clear message [TS]

01:14:08   about what do you want so the end but [TS]

01:14:10   it's like but yeah but they don't really [TS]

01:14:12   mean that right in the same thing with [TS]

01:14:13   this movie is a very clear message about [TS]

01:14:14   what the Jedi stand for in terms of [TS]

01:14:16   using the force and everything like yeah [TS]

01:14:18   but they don't really mean that they [TS]

01:14:19   really do and this is the only way this [TS]

01:14:21   could end with with Luke doing the right [TS]

01:14:24   thing almost not doing it coming very [TS]

01:14:26   close to slicing off haters and you know [TS]

01:14:28   just kind of his hand and and you're [TS]

01:14:30   right that you know it's not that the [TS]

01:14:31   Lucas like elevator you're going to do [TS]

01:14:32   this for me Luke found the strength to [TS]

01:14:34   be true to his teachings into this that [TS]

01:14:36   this Jedi philosophy that he has of [TS]

01:14:38   passivism what we can I can't just it [TS]

01:14:41   boggles my mind is a movie where [TS]

01:14:43   passivism is the awesome thing that [TS]

01:14:45   we're all cheering for that the good [TS]

01:14:46   guys have and the pic guys don't and you [TS]

01:14:49   know it's an exciting dramatic movie [TS]

01:14:51   activity action movie yes [TS]

01:14:52   yeah so so so Luke pulls off Darth [TS]

01:14:59   Vader's mask [TS]

01:15:00   well he's not changing Jones and turns [TS]

01:15:03   out he's not now that know what the [TS]

01:15:04   Masters a filter that makes him sound [TS]

01:15:06   like James Earl Jones we're gonna get [TS]

01:15:07   that felt like a kid out there also [TS]

01:15:09   makes him sound not British and yeah [TS]

01:15:11   exactly [TS]

01:15:13   well only slightly sort of British [TS]

01:15:15   incidentally great the best commentary [TS]

01:15:17   about this he never comes from the the [TS]

01:15:19   kevin smith movie Chasing Amy where they [TS]

01:15:21   talk about the BB it [TS]

01:15:24   this is big black guy and they speak up [TS]

01:15:26   as a scrawny little white guy that's [TS]

01:15:29   running it's not like I'm Dumpty looking [TS]

01:15:31   yeah [TS]

01:15:31   but he's also he's also about 20 years [TS]

01:15:33   older than then you probably should be [TS]

01:15:35   or something but it is shocking right [TS]

01:15:36   you know you you see not just that he's [TS]

01:15:38   not he's got this you know breathing [TS]

01:15:40   apparatus and all that but he's all [TS]

01:15:42   pasty and scarred and yet and not [TS]

01:15:45   talking looking know it always like this [TS]

01:15:47   is the guy who was just fighting him to [TS]

01:15:49   a standstill right now all of a sudden [TS]

01:15:50   it's just like this old kind of his [TS]

01:15:52   grandfather Lee County guy [TS]

01:15:54   it's it's kind of like he's like in in [TS]

01:15:56   the the test selected he's like the guy [TS]

01:15:57   inside the thing controlling the vader [TS]

01:16:00   outfit right inside like the little man [TS]

01:16:02   inside Anderson the sword I you know im [TS]

01:16:05   stearing Vader were better but and this [TS]

01:16:07   is another example of like how this [TS]

01:16:08   movie just pays off on everything like [TS]

01:16:10   it [TS]

01:16:11   we got to you know in the first movie [TS]

01:16:13   like who's the guy in that mask in the [TS]

01:16:14   second movie like I see the back of his [TS]

01:16:16   head and his masked always good to see [TS]

01:16:17   it and hear it is you were taking it off [TS]

01:16:19   you know everything every needs [TS]

01:16:22   satisfied every plot line paid off in a [TS]

01:16:25   you know in a convincing satisfactory [TS]

01:16:28   manner if television series could all [TS]

01:16:30   end the way [TS]

01:16:31   plot-wise the way that the Star Wars [TS]

01:16:33   trilogy ends there would never be any [TS]

01:16:35   complaints so here's here's my question [TS]

01:16:38   they're flying through the [TS]

01:16:39   superstructure and they blow up the [TS]

01:16:40   Death Star and the Emperor's on the [TS]

01:16:42   Death Star Darth Vader's on the Death [TS]

01:16:44   Star and looks on the Death Star so by [TS]

01:16:46   Luke refusing to fight and Darth Vader [TS]

01:16:49   throwing the Emperor off is the only net [TS]

01:16:52   change here by Luke winning that Luke [TS]

01:16:55   doesn't die is they're gonna blow up the [TS]

01:16:58   Death Star anyway now you don't know if [TS]

01:17:01   the Emperor was still alive he could [TS]

01:17:03   have sense that they were that there was [TS]

01:17:05   a weakness in the plan could have [TS]

01:17:06   escaped lived on Lex day we made lots of [TS]

01:17:09   things you can do like that but but [TS]

01:17:10   really I mean it's sort of like they did [TS]

01:17:12   they double beeping but that's what you [TS]

01:17:13   think this is like I mean you need to [TS]

01:17:15   make sure it's like it's like staking [TS]

01:17:17   him and cutting the head off [TS]

01:17:18   yeah we got the emotional resolution [TS]

01:17:20   well it was this movie is not about the [TS]

01:17:22   Empire versus the rebellion this movie [TS]

01:17:24   is about Luke Skywalker and Darth [TS]

01:17:25   Vader's Jenny yeah yeah so that's what [TS]

01:17:28   you care about it you really cares the [TS]

01:17:30   end like always exciting the Empire no [TS]

01:17:32   longer is in control of the galaxy don't [TS]

01:17:34   really care [TS]

01:17:35   no which is why all the special edition [TS]

01:17:37   scenes at the end off yeah we don't you [TS]

01:17:39   have to start thinking about all the [TS]

01:17:40   implications of what the end having like [TS]

01:17:42   your your government decapitated [TS]

01:17:44   actually meet [TS]

01:17:45   oh my god our currency is going in the [TS]

01:17:46   toilet massive inflation i'll bring a [TS]

01:17:48   obscure random a sci-fi reference to a [TS]

01:17:54   show i liked a lot of Babylon 5 one of [TS]

01:17:56   the interesting things about the show is [TS]

01:17:58   that there's a civil war and it's [TS]

01:18:00   resolved and the show keeps going after [TS]

01:18:02   that and the whole point of it is you [TS]

01:18:04   know yay we won the Civil War [TS]

01:18:07   oh crap now what right and and those the [TS]

01:18:10   special edition seen Star Wars I always [TS]

01:18:12   I always look at those in like yeah you [TS]

01:18:15   know and i know there are novels and at [TS]

01:18:17   that make this point to in the extended [TS]

01:18:18   kind of star wars university its GI [TS]

01:18:21   Emperor's dead that's good but there's a [TS]

01:18:23   whole apparatus of the the Empire and [TS]

01:18:26   it's it's not all just gonna fall apart [TS]

01:18:27   like 15 years in bureaucracy [TS]

01:18:30   yeah it's not yeah it's not gonna be [TS]

01:18:32   like yeah everything's fine now it's [TS]

01:18:35   like your big victory grant like the tax [TS]

01:18:37   collectors all gonna be like me I guess [TS]

01:18:38   we'll go home personal resolution yes [TS]

01:18:41   yeah and to these movies credit they [TS]

01:18:42   don't spend like that they mentioned [TS]

01:18:44   know the Emperor's is all the Senate and [TS]

01:18:46   there's a rebellion and the rebel bit [TS]

01:18:48   rebels are hiding but like that [TS]

01:18:50   machinery is not with these movies about [TS]

01:18:51   this movie is so clearly about this [TS]

01:18:53   central band of character and what [TS]

01:18:54   happens then in specific specifically [TS]

01:18:56   Luke and so all the other stuff is kind [TS]

01:18:58   of like the setting for the movie it's [TS]

01:19:00   not about the rebels vs the Empire it's [TS]

01:19:02   not about the Senate to bring something [TS]

01:19:04   about it like it is totally not part of [TS]

01:19:06   this moment about trade negotiations wow [TS]

01:19:09   that would be bad and just think of the [TS]

01:19:11   amount of screen time they provide they [TS]

01:19:13   give to the Empire versus the rebelling [TS]

01:19:16   it's like a friend you know one or two [TS]

01:19:18   small scenes some of the scroll text and [TS]

01:19:20   some you know but it's just not about [TS]

01:19:21   that right so forest moon of Endor also [TS]

01:19:25   notice and or uh uh Luke comes down they [TS]

01:19:30   burns the the vader outfit or another [TS]

01:19:33   beautiful music put to which to which my [TS]

01:19:36   son says he put the mask back on him [TS]

01:19:38   yeah well you have there was this the [TS]

01:19:40   end of Vader is the ultimate villain [TS]

01:19:42   Victor the villain and the big and the [TS]

01:19:44   innovator transition from being the [TS]

01:19:46   ultimate villain the guy that he looked [TS]

01:19:47   like the big black you know guy in black [TS]

01:19:49   to a tragic figure that's why don't they [TS]

01:19:51   see him as a rock is tragically tried to [TS]

01:19:54   do something to read he redeemed himself [TS]

01:19:55   did he really [TS]

01:19:57   in the end but practically speaking he's [TS]

01:19:59   done so many horrible things that this [TS]

01:20:00   one thing probably just make up for them [TS]

01:20:02   but at he's a tragic figure and it's sad [TS]

01:20:05   music you know burning him and I think [TS]

01:20:07   it's fitting that this same scene was [TS]

01:20:10   using spaced to show that the post [TS]

01:20:12   printable change that was pretty cool [TS]

01:20:14   change in Tim's connection with Star [TS]

01:20:15   Wars because it for Tim it was the end [TS]

01:20:18   of something [TS]

01:20:19   it was the end of Star Wars as this [TS]

01:20:20   touchstone in his life and so he's put [TS]

01:20:23   you know burning it is symbolic I'm [TS]

01:20:25   burning Darth Vader is the end of Darth [TS]

01:20:27   Vader the evil man and now the tragic [TS]

01:20:29   figure you know we have a difference of [TS]

01:20:31   opinion this tremendous you didn't like [TS]

01:20:34   it [TS]

01:20:35   no that and that scene by the way that [TS]

01:20:39   seen since I watched spaced way after it [TS]

01:20:40   aired I didn't really know like the [TS]

01:20:42   timing of the things so I had no idea [TS]

01:20:44   that that you know season two was [TS]

01:20:46   happening around around around 99 i [TS]

01:20:50   watch season two as it aired in the inn [TS]

01:20:52   in the UK and it let me tell you it [TS]

01:20:55   touch the spot my heart yet so I'm [TS]

01:20:58   watching it and then they and they cut [TS]

01:20:59   the universe was you know you're [TS]

01:21:01   starting to a space pod cast they cut 10 [TS]

01:21:03   space and make immediately cut to the [TS]

01:21:04   torch scene and I mean you know exactly [TS]

01:21:06   what they're referencing and it just was [TS]

01:21:07   not perfect so i can't i can't see that [TS]

01:21:09   see now that and you think like all your [TS]

01:21:11   you it's kinda like Admiral Ackbar and [TS]

01:21:13   and the breakfast cereal thing oh they [TS]

01:21:15   found it they've ruined the scene in the [TS]

01:21:17   movie that you love because all you can [TS]

01:21:18   think of is the comedy thing [TS]

01:21:19   no I don't mean space as deadly serious [TS]

01:21:23   that isn't that is not comedy to me so [TS]

01:21:26   we get to see our little ghost friends [TS]

01:21:27   one last time they smile at us [TS]

01:21:29   Yoda sitting on the railing and are [TS]

01:21:31   there well yes because it's tiring to be [TS]

01:21:34   a ghost and our theater now with them [TS]

01:21:36   Anakin Skywalker now with them also i [TS]

01:21:38   really enjoyed that that they everybody [TS]

01:21:39   gets to meet up everybody gets hugs [TS]

01:21:41   which gets yes hardy Lando gets to tell [TS]

01:21:43   Jim Bako you suggest about how he threw [TS]

01:21:45   the freaking millennium fawlcon now the [TS]

01:21:46   death star was also did you see what I [TS]

01:21:48   did came out of the fire to just see [TS]

01:21:50   that and you open up and you know of [TS]

01:21:54   which they also changed in the special [TS]

01:21:56   edition to be just more soaring we all [TS]

01:21:58   complain about jar jar and we have some [TS]

01:22:00   complaints about the silly Teddy where [TS]

01:22:02   he works and yet when when asked to [TS]

01:22:04   choose everyone unambiguous he says are [TS]

01:22:06   you been up all the way over that crap [TS]

01:22:08   over any possible [TS]

01:22:10   alternative and and and why is that why [TS]

01:22:12   why do we prefer this ridiculous [TS]

01:22:15   I don't dance i have a soft side over [TS]

01:22:17   the other song but I Yub nub has a you [TS]

01:22:20   know it's it's a terrible way these [TS]

01:22:22   three fantastic movies and with this [TS]

01:22:24   kind of ridiculous you walk music also [TS]

01:22:26   hear it i'll tell you why I think I like [TS]

01:22:29   this the oven up song at and and maybe [TS]

01:22:34   not a good reason but it's a reason it's [TS]

01:22:35   a recent here is that the the Nanyan up [TS]

01:22:39   song the one they replaced it is [TS]

01:22:43   entirely there and all the scenes and [TS]

01:22:45   everything to tie it to the other movies [TS]

01:22:48   that we won't mention and I don't like [TS]

01:22:50   those on the movies so anyway that [TS]

01:22:51   you're going to take something that I [TS]

01:22:52   really like and try to connect it for [TS]

01:22:55   its first fortunately connected with [TS]

01:22:57   something that I really don't like I [TS]

01:22:58   will not like you for all right but what [TS]

01:23:00   if you just took the song and overlaid [TS]

01:23:02   it over the original right and another [TS]

01:23:04   set and now the second thing is I saw it [TS]

01:23:06   when I was a kid and when your kid you [TS]

01:23:08   like this stuff [TS]

01:23:08   music I I have a soft spot for the music [TS]

01:23:11   is why I really remember enjoying that I [TS]

01:23:13   just don't want to see Khorasan tanned [TS]

01:23:15   Naboo or you know I don't want to see I [TS]

01:23:18   don't like the music of the the new [TS]

01:23:19   version either i just don't let it's not [TS]

01:23:21   just the fact that it ties to provide I [TS]

01:23:23   plane just don't like the song it you [TS]

01:23:25   open up is silly but I saw this movie [TS]

01:23:26   when I was a kid and basically it is why [TS]

01:23:29   i think the Jedi what i said in the [TS]

01:23:30   beginning that it does the most [TS]

01:23:32   important thing you have to do it ends [TS]

01:23:33   the series in a satisfying way and it's [TS]

01:23:36   a happy ending more or less there's [TS]

01:23:38   still a tragedy of anagen but you see [TS]

01:23:40   him redeemed in his ghost form and [TS]

01:23:41   everything like that but the good guys [TS]

01:23:43   more or less win and I think for the age [TS]

01:23:46   i watch this it was nice to go through [TS]

01:23:48   the end of three movies especially with [TS]

01:23:49   Empire being such a you know such a blow [TS]

01:23:53   such a shock to the system that [TS]

01:23:55   everything was alright in the end and [TS]

01:23:56   that's one of the things i think makes [TS]

01:23:58   the Star Wars trilogy such such an [TS]

01:24:00   enduring thing is that you liked it see [TS]

01:24:02   it and everything's alright in yet [TS]

01:24:04   satisfying everything gets paid off [TS]

01:24:06   unless you watch them the the first the [TS]

01:24:09   other some other movies and then is not [TS]

01:24:11   a really sad [TS]

01:24:13   what I really love about the the ending [TS]

01:24:15   of Jedi is that is very small you know [TS]

01:24:19   you don't have an epic ending well at [TS]

01:24:22   least unless you're watching the revised [TS]

01:24:24   versions you don't have an epic ending [TS]

01:24:25   of yes everything's great but it's [TS]

01:24:28   really you focus on the various [TS]

01:24:30   characters and I like you but because it [TS]

01:24:33   is kind of you know tribal and [TS]

01:24:34   ritualistic in a way because you're [TS]

01:24:36   joining joining the people that you [TS]

01:24:38   followed this entire time and get wedge [TS]

01:24:40   and Lando get mentions and and the [TS]

01:24:43   droids get a little hat tip because [TS]

01:24:45   they're really important characters in [TS]

01:24:47   the journey but you don't you don't have [TS]

01:24:49   the big epic space battle close out the [TS]

01:24:52   movie you have this small group in a [TS]

01:24:54   very small sort of ceremonial party [TS]

01:24:57   yeah they're not celebrating on the [TS]

01:24:59   bridge of one of their capital ships [TS]

01:25:01   there you know what I mean they're [TS]

01:25:02   celebrating down with the Ewoks and [TS]

01:25:04   they're kinda hang out like you wanted [TS]

01:25:05   the party telling you that was not cool [TS]

01:25:06   that happen and plus explains have [TS]

01:25:08   fireworks coming out of them so there's [TS]

01:25:09   that [TS]

01:25:10   yeah there they they save those first [TS]

01:25:12   yes looking at jobs are equipped with [TS]

01:25:14   this [TS]

01:25:14   yeah that's the rebels the rebels think [TS]

01:25:17   of everything they've got Holograms and [TS]

01:25:18   they've got far that's why they want to [TS]

01:25:20   run things Jason that's right they got a [TS]

01:25:22   plan ever see the Empire throw up [TS]

01:25:23   fireworks don't never to never not once [TS]

01:25:26   never firebombing yes fireworks they got [TS]

01:25:28   mad [TS]

01:25:29   yeah typical well I think we've reached [TS]

01:25:32   the end of Star Wars now we truly have I [TS]

01:25:36   don't know what to do with myself [TS]

01:25:37   anymore [TS]

01:25:38   yeah i'm going to go back and watch them [TS]

01:25:40   in order again I actually want to try it [TS]

01:25:46   i know it's sacrosanct to bring up the [TS]

01:25:47   prequels blood [TS]

01:25:48   no they're honoring these there are no [TS]

01:25:50   movies machete order i'm curious about [TS]

01:25:52   machete order i have to say oh why would [TS]

01:25:55   you do that we miss you don't need it [TS]

01:25:57   now those movies i mean let me put it [TS]

01:26:00   this way there is perhaps an interesting [TS]

01:26:02   story to be told about events that [TS]

01:26:03   happened before these three movies that [TS]

01:26:04   we love those were not them [TS]

01:26:06   yeah no yeah no but those were not [TS]

01:26:09   seeing as how the movies that we're not [TS]

01:26:11   talking about did get made [TS]

01:26:13   although no I thought we were talking [TS]

01:26:14   about them and I don't think young in DC [TS]

01:26:18   or reorder he doesn't help i get i could [TS]

01:26:21   come up with some very disgusting [TS]

01:26:23   analogies charted frames brother just [TS]

01:26:25   say that [TS]

01:26:26   changing the order of this analysis not [TS]

01:26:28   know [TS]

01:26:29   alright any final thoughts before we [TS]

01:26:31   wrap up this epically long episode 6 of [TS]

01:26:36   our of our podcast series about Star [TS]

01:26:40   Wars know that in the beginning I said [TS]

01:26:44   this was the beginning of the end and it [TS]

01:26:46   kind of was because this is kind of like [TS]

01:26:48   a you know all those bad things that we [TS]

01:26:51   don't like about these movies that we're [TS]

01:26:52   not talking about it we're totally in [TS]

01:26:54   this movie we didn't know it at the time [TS]

01:26:56   but they were all there staring us in [TS]

01:26:57   the face just turned down slightly but i [TS]

01:27:00   still have good feelings about Jedi [TS]

01:27:03   because it did such an important thing [TS]

01:27:05   which is you know we all we've all been [TS]

01:27:06   fans of television series like [TS]

01:27:08   Battlestar Galactica something that have [TS]

01:27:09   ended in ways that have disappointed [TS]

01:27:10   some people were disappointed and lost [TS]

01:27:12   like you get into a thing you're [TS]

01:27:13   invested in a thing and you get to the [TS]

01:27:15   good part of the middle Empire and then [TS]

01:27:17   they just blow it in the end and they [TS]

01:27:19   almost blew it with too much cutie walks [TS]

01:27:22   off or whatever but in general the [TS]

01:27:23   overall plot line [TS]

01:27:24   Luke that we cared about his deal with [TS]

01:27:26   Vader the space battle the resolution of [TS]

01:27:28   a series totally internally consistent [TS]

01:27:29   and satisfying and every possible way [TS]

01:27:32   everything paid off everything nice so i [TS]

01:27:34   just write do the only things had about [TS]

01:27:36   it is that it's over [TS]

01:27:37   yeah exactly and it's the it's the good [TS]

01:27:39   kind of sad you know you and we're never [TS]

01:27:41   going to see I remember walking out of [TS]

01:27:43   the theater and think while we're never [TS]

01:27:44   gonna see on Solo and Princess player [TS]

01:27:47   Skywalker ever again until someone that [TS]

01:27:51   will be rebooted well I I remember [TS]

01:27:54   leaving and having fantasies about [TS]

01:27:55   episodes you know 1779 yeah I would have [TS]

01:28:00   rather seen those meet you [TS]

01:28:02   well actually I mean there are many [TS]

01:28:04   books some of them terrible some of them [TS]

01:28:06   great you probably wouldn't have rather [TS]

01:28:08   seen them if they'd actually got made by [TS]

01:28:09   George Lucas no I think it's all I think [TS]

01:28:11   it's all for the best [TS]

01:28:12   yeah when I was 11 years old I [TS]

01:28:13   definitely wanted to see ya oh sure I [TS]

01:28:16   wanted to see one day I wanted to see [TS]

01:28:18   what happened before them when I was you [TS]

01:28:19   know 17 before before we knew before we [TS]

01:28:23   knew before the dark time but that was [TS]

01:28:25   before the Empire for the empire but we [TS]

01:28:27   use more machine than they have these we [TS]

01:28:29   have these three and we interested them [TS]

01:28:31   and these three make a complete circle [TS]

01:28:33   there's nothing is to be added before [TS]

01:28:35   them and [TS]

01:28:36   he needs to be added after them so if [TS]

01:28:37   you're listening go back and listen to [TS]

01:28:39   the star wars podcast again just put in [TS]

01:28:41   a repent just keep on going [TS]

01:28:43   yeah people wondering what's the correct [TS]

01:28:44   order to watch the stores movies you [TS]

01:28:46   watch a new hope and very Strikes Back [TS]

01:28:47   and Return of the Jedi that is the [TS]

01:28:49   correct all that's the order and then [TS]

01:28:50   you're done [TS]

01:28:51   Alpha and the Omega yeah you know it's [TS]

01:28:54   alright well we solved all the problems [TS]

01:28:56   of the world and discuss Star Wars so I [TS]

01:28:59   would like to thank my guests in this [TS]

01:29:01   incredible journey that we've taken what [TS]

01:29:03   we do next I don't know we'll have to [TS]

01:29:05   stop stop and reconsider what where we [TS]

01:29:07   go from here for our epic link that [TS]

01:29:09   movie commentaries but i want to thank [TS]

01:29:12   Dan Morgan dan thanks a lot for your eye [TS]

01:29:14   and you are you are one of the most [TS]

01:29:16   devoted star wars fans i have ever met [TS]

01:29:18   and I thank you for lending that [TS]

01:29:20   knowledge to the podcast force will be [TS]

01:29:23   with you Jason always thank you to [TS]

01:29:25   answer any Caldwell so thank you for [TS]

01:29:27   being here [TS]

01:29:27   John syracuse aur the other most devoted [TS]

01:29:31   star wars and I know and I thank you for [TS]

01:29:33   all of your commentary and perspective [TS]

01:29:35   on this too [TS]

01:29:36   thanks Jason wow you just tired out [TS]

01:29:40   you got no more lines yet I and it is [TS]

01:29:42   being one more time I'm gonna call them [TS]

01:29:44   online from the next movie [TS]

01:29:45   Yub nub Jason yah and thank you many [TS]

01:29:52   listeners to be uncomfortable for not [TS]

01:29:55   just your listening to these lengths the [TS]

01:29:57   episodes but to your great positive [TS]

01:29:59   feedback about all of these star wars [TS]

01:30:00   episodes that we've done the feedback on [TS]

01:30:05   on Twitter and an email about the star [TS]

01:30:07   wars episode has been remarkably [TS]

01:30:09   positive it's been very kind [TS]

01:30:11   we glad that you are glad that you have [TS]

01:30:13   liked listening to us talking about Star [TS]

01:30:15   Wars as much as we have liked yammering [TS]

01:30:17   on about it for a grand total of [TS]

01:30:19   probably like six and a half for seven [TS]

01:30:22   hours so so it meant it's like a day you [TS]

01:30:26   just spend a day with us talking about [TS]

01:30:27   sir [TS]

01:30:28   thank you for listening to us and until [TS]

01:30:31   next time on the uncomfortable i am [TS]

01:30:33   jason l goodnight and goodbye and good [TS]

01:30:37   riddance and we're gonna go to sleep [TS]

01:30:39   the bike at the editor deterred [TS]

01:30:46   returning oh dude this [TS]