The Incomparable

79: Everything Sounds Beautiful in German

 

  [Music] [TS]

  the incomparable podcast number 79 [TS]

  februari 2012 [TS]

  well [TS]

  welcome one and all to the selection [TS]

  meeting for the incomparable film [TS]

  festival also known as the incomparable [TS]

  favorite movies draft the premise here [TS]

  is simple we are going to invent an [TS]

  imaginary film festival featuring great [TS]

  movies that don't have to be geeky [TS]

  although many of them will be given who [TS]

  is here each day of our imaginary film [TS]

  festival will be hosted by one of the [TS]

  members of the incomparable panel and [TS]

  for that day they will be there to [TS]

  introduce all five of the movies they [TS]

  selected explain why they selected them [TS]

  at we don't want to have duplication in [TS]

  our film festival so once somebody takes [TS]

  a movie during this election meeting it [TS]

  will be taken off the board and [TS]

  unavailable for everyone else which adds [TS]

  a little competition to the proceedings [TS]

  i am your host and a host of the [TS]

  uncomfortable imaginary film festival [TS]

  Jason Snell and joining me today are so [TS]

  many members of the incomparable panel [TS]

  I'm going to introduce them all in the [TS]

  order of the random draft selection that [TS]

  has going to determine how they pick in [TS]

  the five rounds of our draft our first [TS]

  pick the coveted first pic will go to [TS]

  glen fleischmann hi Glenn who [TS]

  hello thanks for having the random [TS]

  number generator picked you [TS]

  I'll of randomness yes randomness [TS]

  working in your favor in entropy favors [TS]

  me yes yes you you also speak randomness [TS]

  sometimes so that fits 42 I actually [TS]

  your number was 26 but it was good [TS]

  enough of making second will be Scott [TS]

  McNulty I Scott hello I'm happy to be [TS]

  the commander Riker to glens Captain [TS]

  Picard excellent holding down the [TS]

  commander data spot then would be Steve [TS]

  let's hi Steve in a time before the TV [TS]

  movie draft one panelist said hello [TS]

  you are that panelist that was me all [TS]

  right that's what I fourth pic on our [TS]

  movie draft will be John siracusa hi [TS]

  John [TS]

  I really helped muted right now you're [TS]

  not you're not this is gonna be an [TS]

  exciting podcast it is i can hear the [TS]

  excitement in your voice too [TS]

  it's making me excited with the fifth [TS]

  pick in the in the draft will be dan [TS]

  more'n hi dan we just like the Geordi [TS]

  LaForge spot because that'd be pretty [TS]

  awesome i would take that I've run out [TS]

  of yes yes I'm sure that is the Geordi [TS]

  LaForge right in the middle I'm right in [TS]

  the middle just what i want to begin [TS]

  with the sixth pick in the draft the [TS]

  deanna troi spud sorry its serenity cold [TS]

  haha i don't know how i feel about that [TS]

  you could be dr. crusher she could be [TS]

  wil wheaton yeah i-i-i struggle between [TS]

  young wil wheaton and don't forget wharf [TS]

  for Scotty in there somewhere there is [TS]

  no honor in picking last anyway hello [TS]

  and as um as the host I will go last [TS]

  because it is my lot to clean up after [TS]

  everybody on my so i will click i will [TS]

  pick last [TS]

  I so anyway the idea is we're creating a [TS]

  virtual film festival I've asked [TS]

  everybody to pick to make a list of [TS]

  their favorite films it has to be more [TS]

  than five because some of the films will [TS]

  probably be sniped by their uh their [TS]

  favorite or their fellow panelists now [TS]

  who i have a1 reef rule before we begin [TS]

  which is uh I want to clarify something [TS]

  that came up earlier what makes a movie [TS]

  I've decided I will make all all [TS]

  judgments or me the question the [TS]

  question came up what what what [TS]

  comprises a movie with Star Wars be [TS]

  considered one movie and answers no with [TS]

  the Harry Potter movies be one moving no [TS]

  that would be cheating and I won't allow [TS]

  it with Lord of the Rings be considered [TS]

  one movie i'm going to say yes if it's a [TS]

  movie that really is one story it's [TS]

  adapted from a single thing it's got the [TS]

  same cast and it and it really sort of [TS]

  shot together we'll call that one movie [TS]

  but in the future and the future doesn't [TS]

  count because it was a single the first [TS]

  one is a sink two and three or after [TS]

  three were shot yeah well if you want to [TS]

  pick back to the future three [TS]

  you got I may allow you have to have [TS]

  asked for a judge's ruling [TS]

  i'm also before we get started I'm going [TS]

  to throw out some names of the movies [TS]

  that our listeners suggested would be [TS]

  their pics so some some just a little [TS]

  foreshadowing of movies that we may [TS]

  mention and others that we won't mr. [TS]

  lorry said Star Wars The Empire Strikes [TS]

  Back Lord of the Rings The Princess [TS]

  Bride not big surprises there and [TS]

  edition australian movie i believe [TS]

  listener dan said blade runner Butch [TS]

  Cassidy and the Sundance Kid the shining [TS]

  empire strikes back in the princess [TS]

  bride those might go in the first round [TS]

  let's see what else mr. David wonder [TS]

  boys out of sight [TS]

  bakit the wrath of khan it's there's a [TS]

  little contrast and the thin man [TS]

  interesting bladerunner other alien the [TS]

  Buddy Holly story those from irving [TS]

  Dennis said real genius real genius real [TS]

  genius real genius and real genius sorry [TS]

  Irving are sorry Dennis you can't pick [TS]

  moving more than once sycophant [TS]

  yeah it's really really sucking up uh [TS]

  Wally the dark knight jaws came from [TS]

  listener John who is not john siracusa [TS]

  lots of empire strikes back [TS]

  raise the Lost Ark and miss Caldwell [TS]

  will be happy to know somebody suggested [TS]

  serenity [TS]

  yeah anyway so so she seems pleased [TS]

  despite it's time it's time now or the [TS]

  for us to fill out the slots for our [TS]

  imaginary film festival that we're going [TS]

  to not do because it's not real if [TS]

  somebody who's right wants to run a film [TS]

  festival would like to comment [TS]

  contact us please use this material I i [TS]

  suggest that you listen to the rest of [TS]

  this podcast and then rethink things [TS]

  already invoked Robert Redford foot he [TS]

  might give us a call [TS]

  it's possible now and yes I so with the [TS]

  first pick in the incomparable film [TS]

  draft i am going to turn it over to glen [TS]

  fleischmann to make his pick and explain [TS]

  a little bit about why why why Glenn to [TS]

  your God why my favorite movie of all [TS]

  time [TS]

  my first pick wings of desire don't buy [TS]

  them vendors inventors has made a lot of [TS]

  different kinds of [TS]

  films all of a certain type so they're [TS]

  all different kinds all the same time [TS]

  and then people have a lot of strong [TS]

  feeling better because sometimes his [TS]

  films do not hang together that well and [TS]

  they seem like a lot of nonsense I've [TS]

  heard that quite a bit and I'm not a big [TS]

  fan of a lot of his other films and [TS]

  wings of desire suicide explain the plot [TS]

  in brief [TS]

  yes idea well so we desire it's about [TS]

  angels in Berlin and it sounds [TS]

  incredibly trait of course because it's [TS]

  angels Angela tray but it's presented in [TS]

  the most it's the most beautifully shot [TS]

  paying it's the most sensitive thing [TS]

  there are times when there's so little [TS]

  dialogue in it the conceit is that there [TS]

  are two angels that are one of them [TS]

  played first by the superb Brannigan's [TS]

  just the door and I and others [TS]

  autoresponder that's what's worse known [TS]

  in this country than in Germany and the [TS]

  two of them are angels and they're [TS]

  talking to each other they're angels all [TS]

  over and people can't see them but the [TS]

  angels can provide some influence [TS]

  people's lives but it's presented like [TS]

  the gentlest way that encouragement [TS]

  confusion there to sort of witness and [TS]

  observe and not really get completely [TS]

  involved [TS]

  Peter Falk isn't it in a bizarre will [TS]

  roll in which he seems the oldest see [TS]

  and talk to the Angels a bit sort of [TS]

  confusing and it's kind of a love story [TS]

  to the angel falls in love with a human [TS]

  this circus performer trapeze are [TS]

  displayed by selvakumar khan who is a [TS]

  and C really beautiful woman and it's I [TS]

  don't know there's something about the [TS]

  movie it's so quiet and gentle and [TS]

  beautiful and it's just I think I saw it [TS]

  I thought when I was young when after [TS]

  came out and was sort of struck down by [TS]

  I've seen it many times since and I you [TS]

  know you have to bind the conceit I [TS]

  think some people might find it very [TS]

  very trite but they just they follow [TS]

  different peoples very uh it's almost [TS]

  picturesque in its ways that the stories [TS]

  interlock and you see this old man who [TS]

  is a poet and you hear him the angels [TS]

  can hear people's thoughts and you hear [TS]

  him reciting his promise the skin flower [TS]

  through the whole thing is talking about [TS]

  childhood and nature and just a lovely [TS]

  film lovely for everybody who had that [TS]

  the first pick in the draft with the [TS]

  German you win the new enterprise if [TS]

  this movie [TS]

  sounds familiar we should say that this [TS]

  was remade by Hollywood as city of [TS]

  anything I was going to make a snarky [TS]

  comment about how I liked it better when [TS]

  they remade it with Nicholas case and [TS]

  make a right on that day and that's [TS]

  actually true [TS]

  yeah it's one of the many facets of [TS]

  films Nicolas Cage has been in it and [TS]

  it's this year this year so say yes city [TS]

  of angels now it's interesting there's [TS]

  also a sequel vendors made a sequel to [TS]

  wing design now come on now use in [TS]

  German but you don't need Scott [TS]

  subtitles [TS]

  there's not a lot of dialogue that's [TS]

  necessary to understand the movie this [TS]

  sequel however are always loose which is [TS]

  always so close you two songs so far [TS]

  faraway so close it's just a terrible [TS]

  terrible film it's it's it's [TS]

  unbelievable that has anything to do [TS]

  with the original incredibly try there's [TS]

  some weird plot with like mafia and [TS]

  things being blown up and children [TS]

  kidnapped and people falling out of [TS]

  buildings and it's got you know a great [TS]

  great guests try again Peter Falk [TS]

  playing a more significant role in it so [TS]

  hard to believe it has anything to do [TS]

  with this and city of angels that has [TS]

  some good parts to it i like little bits [TS]

  of it but I'm it's nicholas cage so you [TS]

  gotta go back to the original witches [TS]

  wings of desire desire all right I think [TS]

  that's good at it that is as crazy as it [TS]

  sounds that is a that is a beloved movie [TS]

  so that's excellent good pic coming out [TS]

  of left field [TS]

  sounds terrible you when you describe [TS]

  the plot it sounds terrible it's funny [TS]

  yeah that's what you hear in german it's [TS]

  because this I'll stuck in table [TS]

  everything is beautiful in German [TS]

  language of love it is Scott McNulty [TS]

  you're up for my first pick [TS]

  I'm going to pick star trek 2009 exactly [TS]

  i think that's my favorite movie it is [TS]

  my favorite star trek movie and I knew [TS]

  it might go so i had to pick it as soon [TS]

  as possible so i would pick it up [TS]

  so exactly I i pondered picking real [TS]

  genius but I thought that would be mean [TS]

  since I don't actually like real changes [TS]

  behind you have to stand up on your day [TS]

  of our film festival and introduce it [TS]

  which would be terrible it would be [TS]

  terrible because everything I saw half [TS]

  of it once and there's some popcorn in [TS]

  it [TS]

  you can throw tomatoes at you if you did [TS]

  thats a star trek to its true but it's [TS]

  not affecting back to my actual choice [TS]

  star trek to is possibly the best Star [TS]

  Trek film ever made [TS]

  there are many of them for those [TS]

  unfamiliar with the plot do i need to [TS]

  summarize the plot [TS]

  I'm not sure it's called the wrath of [TS]

  khan because a favorite villain played [TS]

  by ricardo montalban from the original [TS]

  series is called back into action in [TS]

  this a cinematic masterpiece in which it [TS]

  starts with check off on the US and [TS]

  watch it doesn't it starts with AA one [TS]

  of the many issues and there are so many [TS]

  good things about this movie one of the [TS]

  many things first at the beginning right [TS]

  Christy how it it's true one of the good [TS]

  things and ask so when star trek to came [TS]

  out there was a rumor that Spock would [TS]

  die in it and spoiler alert he does yes [TS]

  lots of your time the film producers [TS]

  thought it would they didn't want [TS]

  everyone to be waiting the entire movie [TS]

  for Spock to die so they created the [TS]

  first scene in the movie I which takes [TS]

  place in a simulator and christianity's [TS]

  character is going through this this [TS]

  test that all Starfleet ah officers have [TS]

  to go through when they're in the [TS]

  Academy is a scenario called the [TS]

  Kobayashi Maru where you are the captain [TS]

  of a simulated Starfleet starship and [TS]

  you are faced with an unwinnable task of [TS]

  rescuing people off of this traitor ship [TS]

  that is deep in the neutral zone and [TS]

  there are Klingons coming in you know [TS]

  you can't win [TS]

  that's the whole point of it and so you [TS]

  don't know that says you're watching it [TS]

  for the first time and if you've never [TS]

  seen it i have completely ruin the [TS]

  dramatic the drama for you but so [TS]

  there's a bunch of similar things and [TS]

  spark dies in the simulation as everyone [TS]

  else and then you think oh my god sparks [TS]

  dead and then you find out Cup captain [TS]

  kirk comes in is like a look as a [TS]

  simulation-based it [TS]

  I'm site summarizing exactly and then I [TS]

  just like that Kirk it's true and this [TS]

  Kobayashi Maru enters star trek lower [TS]

  because I Kirk is the only person who's [TS]

  ever defeated the Kobayashi Maru and he [TS]

  did it by course cheating [TS]

  that is one of the men i can just go on [TS]

  and harmonica bonacic on is a fantastic [TS]

  villain exactly and you [TS]

  another trivia fact William Shatner [TS]

  Ricardo Montalban though they are leads [TS]

  in the movie and they play opposite each [TS]

  other they never actually met during the [TS]

  filming [TS]

  they never have a scene together and yet [TS]

  the relationship between the two you can [TS]

  feel the hate when they have seen the [TS]

  tune of seams together but they're on [TS]

  View screens and things so very actually [TS]

  never physically present together never [TS]

  physically present that is true [TS]

  through the magic of a 23rd century [TS]

  whatever [TS]

  yeah remember technology job technology [TS]

  there you go [TS]

  so that's that in fact my favorably and [TS]

  when I found out that the they released [TS]

  the star trek movies on blu-ray and so i [TS]

  bought the blu-ray collection and i [TS]

  realized i do not have a blu-ray player [TS]

  so that i bought a blu ray player so [TS]

  that I could watch star trek to huh [TS]

  thats i have that blu-ray to that's a [TS]

  great pic that was on my list that was [TS]

  high on my list got I win you win the [TS]

  random number generator gives that is [TS]

  that movie you one of my favorite quotes [TS]

  is that you check off goes and he finds [TS]

  that the body bay and he meets calm and [TS]

  he's like this today we look we left you [TS]

  on City al5 that he says this is such a [TS]

  five bedroom anyway I'm done [TS]

  yes his checkup also says doesn't have [TS]

  to be completely life loss but he says [TS]

  lifelessly Steve you can't pick star [TS]

  trek to your wings of desire but [TS]

  otherwise the borders open of all film [TS]

  history and and you can choose anything [TS]

  else [TS]

  so what do you too Steve so I I suspect [TS]

  I'm fortunate in that based on past pod [TS]

  guess I doubt that my list intersects [TS]

  too much with the others on this podcast [TS]

  or picking the he-man movie aren't you [TS]

  what does the movie yes 45 p man a man [TS]

  he man yeah he master universe from [TS]

  Mario's other movies and he-man yeah [TS]

  there was a movie masters of the [TS]

  universe indeed there was no hot bread [TS]

  and with more so like that we make with [TS]

  Steve's day of the film festival I'm [TS]

  like I'm like the monday after everybody [TS]

  else is built the hangover besides the [TS]

  bedroom closet somewhere with two or [TS]

  three folding chairs right the be [TS]

  strapped Bob on third straight you can [TS]

  go to be theater and two speeds [TS]

  but there are a couple on my list that I [TS]

  thought perhaps somebody else might have [TS]

  picked so I'm gonna this is not my [TS]

  favorite strategy it is good yes i love [TS]

  the draft strategy yes you know i'm all [TS]

  about strategy man i know you want to [TS]

  win so my first pick is ridley scott's [TS]

  1979 or sci-fi hybrid alien which is a [TS]

  terrific film for a lot of reasons and [TS]

  the the basic plot is there's a crew of [TS]

  what are basically glorified tow truck [TS]

  drivers [TS]

  I'm pulling a whole bunch of or in a [TS]

  gigantic spaceship and they're on their [TS]

  way back to earth from whatever mission [TS]

  they were on and they're woken up early [TS]

  from their cryo sleep and told to go [TS]

  investigate a distress signal coming [TS]

  from some remote planet and it turns out [TS]

  not to have been a distress signal but a [TS]

  warning and they run across an alien [TS]

  life-form that precedes to then dispatch [TS]

  them in a variety of entertaining and [TS]

  plenty ways but it's great film for a [TS]

  lot of reasons it's it's you get your [TS]

  groundbreaking sci-fi for groundbreaking [TS]

  for the time and this was nineteen [TS]

  seventy-nine just two years after Star [TS]

  Wars and his take on life in the in the [TS]

  vacuum of space couldn't be more [TS]

  different fact I think well what's [TS]

  similar about it is they're both they're [TS]

  both kind of scuff scuffed up and dirty [TS]

  and messy right well i would say that [TS]

  the star wars isn't anywhere near as [TS]

  scuffed up and dirty as alien in fact [TS]

  now this just in general their policy [TS]

  direction the Millennium Falcon steering [TS]

  wheel and there's a little drinking [TS]

  roosters on the table in alien too so [TS]

  you know maybe there's the intersection [TS]

  but it's you know it's just kind of a [TS]

  much darker tarea on on space then and [TS]

  for obvious reasons because this is [TS]

  basically a horror movie with sci-fi [TS]

  elements [TS]

  I you know that the corridors are ugly [TS]

  and industrial and and not terribly [TS]

  clean you know get a whole lot of the [TS]

  sort of bright and shiny [TS]

  you know princess Leia's ship kind of [TS]

  corridors and instead of princesses and [TS]

  you know vaguely girlie dude with [TS]

  light-up sorts but we have basically a [TS]

  handful of pissed-off blue-collar [TS]

  schlubs who are you spend most of their [TS]

  time bickering about bonus pay and I i [TS]

  think part of the reason that I've never [TS]

  been all that in a murder of star wars [TS]

  with this this felt to me in 1979 more [TS]

  like what space was really all about you [TS]

  know not it's not happy swashbuckling [TS]

  fun time but more drifting through great [TS]

  expanses of nothing in a cramped in can [TS]

  occasionally being set upon by some [TS]

  insect avoid killing machine but at any [TS]

  rate I tell ya that [TS]

  yeah that's fun that's fun for the whole [TS]

  family and in fact i did see this when I [TS]

  was eight so you know well but at any [TS]

  rate [TS]

  yeah at the time the the scene everybody [TS]

  was talking about and and the takeaway [TS]

  from the movie was the classic spoiler [TS]

  horn chestburster scene but that alone [TS]

  obviously wouldn't granted at the [TS]

  staying power that it's enjoyed uh [TS]

  there's there's a lot to love about the [TS]

  movie there's a great casting of a bunch [TS]

  of really relative unknowns with the [TS]

  sigourney weaver and her first role i [TS]

  believe tom skerritt Yaphet Kotto Harry [TS]

  Dean Stanton and Indian home is just [TS]

  fabulous in this film he's unbelievably [TS]

  good as the hidden android ash got a [TS]

  terrific script from dan o'bannon which [TS]

  does a great job of fleshing out the [TS]

  characters so that you know by the time [TS]

  that the first hour we're really not a [TS]

  whole heck of a lot happens by the time [TS]

  that our is done we really don't want to [TS]

  see everybody died horribly but then [TS]

  they do there's a very cool Jerry [TS]

  Goldsmith score that kind of alternates [TS]

  between this a very pretty sort of space [TS]

  you know flying through space music and [TS]

  then just very tense menace and then of [TS]

  course the the great design by HR is a [TS]

  cougar [TS]

  I don't know I've never know how to [TS]

  pronounce a tiger [TS]

  it's got your she gave in to his I've [TS]

  been to a museum [TS]

  it's in greer in Switzerland the same [TS]

  place they make the cheese must be [TS]

  deletions his his designs of the [TS]

  derelict spaceship and the aliens are [TS]

  just fantastic and that the fact that [TS]

  they realize that in the way that they [TS]

  did is pretty pretty and pretty [TS]

  impressive especially for 1979 so and of [TS]

  course ridley scott's direction is very [TS]

  very good to really kind of ramps up the [TS]

  tension in a nice slow burn [TS]

  I so I yea alright lot to love about [TS]

  alien and not there's a chance that [TS]

  maybe somebody else would pick it so [TS]

  there is itself the board anybody have a [TS]

  lien on the west [TS]

  oh no dammit dammit my strategy was [TS]

  always to pick no it's a good pic that's [TS]

  a great pic I thought about alien and [TS]

  free to pick masters of the universe [TS]

  yeah you're gonna do it fast do it fast [TS]

  but first John siracusa wings of desire [TS]

  star trek to alien off the board i know [TS]

  you had those so you're going to have to [TS]

  just go to your backup pics then I so [TS]

  sorry [TS]

  the rest of the crew here but a draft [TS]

  strategy prevails and I must pick even [TS]

  though this is not my number one [TS]

  all-time favorite movie and in fact all [TS]

  these movies that I've selected or not [TS]

  in any particular order because i have a [TS]

  real hard time nailing down like number [TS]

  one number two is just kind of soup near [TS]

  the top but this is definitely in the [TS]

  suit pants the clarifying power of the [TS]

  draft format where your guests get some [TS]

  other strategy involved and I am [TS]

  compelled to pick the empire strikes [TS]

  back [TS]

  I hate you forever [TS]

  that's impossible [TS]

  do not want to see I don't feel that bad [TS]

  about picking it because I that you know [TS]

  what we all know the dan loves this [TS]

  movie and its all-time favorite movie or [TS]

  whatever and then ran loves the movie as [TS]

  well but we had a three-hour two-part [TS]

  podcast about the empire strikes back so [TS]

  really it's not as if they they have [TS]

  something inside them they need to get [TS]

  out about Empire Strikes Back that [TS]

  somehow now going to be bottled up [TS]

  because I get to talk about it and they [TS]

  don't you know I always have something [TS]

  about the empire strikes back guys three [TS]

  more hours easy i think that i sat in a [TS]

  dark figure [TS]

  darth vader figure when I was a kid so I [TS]

  do too well i mean i actually have [TS]

  trouble thinking of anything in [TS]

  particular I want to add to the three [TS]

  hours of stuff that we said if we were [TS]

  to discuss it again [TS]

  as an ensemble i'm sure we could [TS]

  continue to talk about it but really [TS]

  just you know wrapping it up i guess the [TS]

  the larger comment i have on Empire is [TS]

  that the reason i think it is so high [TS]

  and all of our list has a lot to do with [TS]

  the place Star Wars has in our life that [TS]

  you know I'm not just this one [TS]

  particular with all three movies [TS]

  together and you know the age we are [TS]

  when they came out or it is a lot of [TS]

  emotional attachment to the idea of Star [TS]

  Wars and as all thinking people agree [TS]

  this is the best Star Wars movie and [TS]

  likewise Star Wars is the best [TS]

  space-faring science-fiction action [TS]

  adventure franchise and all men t so [TS]

  therefore this must clearly be the top [TS]

  of the very top and really when I think [TS]

  about the Star Wars movies i see Empire [TS]

  poking its head up above kind of the sea [TS]

  of not disposable entertainment but just [TS]

  like entertainment for entertainment [TS]

  sake and occasionally it pokes Ted up [TS]

  through into that other part of the [TS]

  other movies that i have on my list here [TS]

  of like the serious dramatic film and [TS]

  yes is that you know it's not a serious [TS]

  dramatic forms got people with laser [TS]

  swords and spaceships and cookies and [TS]

  all that stuff but it has all the [TS]

  elements that are playing up regular [TS]

  oscar nominated Best Picture period [TS]

  piece you know romance whatever all [TS]

  these series jon was a movies that get [TS]

  taken seriously in by critics and and by [TS]

  the awards think the Empire has all [TS]

  those pieces great script great acting [TS]

  great dialogue that suspense gotta it's [TS]

  got good action it's got a dramatic turn [TS]

  of events you know i mean if you think [TS]

  about the dramatic things that happened [TS]

  the empire strikes back [TS]

  you could put you know that the whole [TS]

  thing I am your father you could put [TS]

  that and then in the some sort of [TS]

  historical drama and it would fit fine [TS]

  to it just so happens that was right [TS]

  after a lightsaber fight and the whole [TS]

  video to business you see a lot of that [TS]

  with the you see that the schlocky [TS]

  version of that in the movies where [TS]

  someone's training under some karate [TS]

  master or whatever but you see that same [TS]

  phenomenon in other movies like this [TS]

  thing or whatever we're at the sting of [TS]

  the color of monies are against my hip [TS]

  hop on and stuff mixed up where you have [TS]

  a young person training under an old [TS]

  master all those elements are there and [TS]

  I think [TS]

  serious film people don't see them as [TS]

  much because it's got wookies and c-3po [TS]

  and r2d2 and stuff like that but i think [TS]

  this movie clearly is head and shoulders [TS]

  above all the other Star Wars movies [TS]

  someone recognizes rubbing his temples [TS]

  hand since the great disturbance true [TS]

  it's true hehe threatened us on Twitter [TS]

  and said whoever picks Empire before [TS]

  Star Wars there but notice no one was [TS]

  clamoring to pick flowers by the way [TS]

  know before Empire came along they were [TS]

  too busy picking their you know valken [TS]

  movies yeah I was an alienation Empire [TS]

  Strikes Back just really has it is way [TS]

  ahead of the crowd other than the two [TS]

  other sci-fi movies picked in front of [TS]

  it including one from Star Trek so there [TS]

  ya star trek wins [TS]

  yeah again it is anyone by the way is [TS]

  there anyone here who seriously thinks [TS]

  that the wrath of khan is a better movie [TS]

  in the Empire Strikes Back yummy i do ya [TS]

  obese people are you are the entire [TS]

  strikes back i like i love but the the [TS]

  whole even Dagobah section is incredibly [TS]

  hard at the heart of the movie mean I [TS]

  think it is so boring I I you know it's [TS]

  just not good it's good it's good that [TS]

  Scott will have that for two for his day [TS]

  and the John will have the empire [TS]

  strikes back for his day and and they'll [TS]

  be banned from each other's days and [TS]

  cannot tackle from the back straight [TS]

  I'm just saying if you compare you know [TS]

  Yoda the puppet to you know Walter [TS]

  colleagues Russian accent one of those [TS]

  two is clearly more real than the other [TS]

  yes yoda is a real puppet don't forget [TS]

  about Ricardo Montalban chestplate think [TS]

  there will be less bloody riot if we [TS]

  separate those days by a couple of days [TS]

  no one ever says Wetzel that's all I'm [TS]

  saying that Yoda has been replaced with [TS]

  a CG audio yet [TS]

  yeah the cgi check off though we don't [TS]

  hatch my films all right moving on and [TS]

  thank you John for getting that out [TS]

  there and and that leaves dan moore and [TS]

  heartbroken because I'm sure that's what [TS]

  he was going to pick I don't know you [TS]

  will turn around and pick someone's [TS]

  right i would that red and i'll of [TS]

  course yes of course I well you can [TS]

  probably guess what it is i actually [TS]

  typed for John and now i have to type it [TS]

  for you and still just paste it into my [TS]

  little list from my clipboard because [TS]

  it's gonna be raised the last dark right [TS]

  indeed it is [TS]

  oh yeah I have to play the draft game [TS]

  kind of got ya like John here was gonna [TS]

  beg like what as we had with John it's [TS]

  probably not my top pick but it's [TS]

  definitely in the top five and again as [TS]

  with Empire without an entire extremely [TS]

  lengthy podcast discussing all the [TS]

  wonderful things about Raiders and and [TS]

  well and then again it's very similar to [TS]

  empire in many ways and not just because [TS]

  you know there is some involvement of [TS]

  what we like to call George Lucas's good [TS]

  period but also you know it same part of [TS]

  a franchise and it's definitely head and [TS]

  shoulders above the other films in that [TS]

  franchise though there are very [TS]

  excellent redeeming moments to Temple of [TS]

  Doom and last crusade which also you [TS]

  know something i could consider picking [TS]

  but if you know Raiders obviously [TS]

  Trump's Last Crusade even and so I think [TS]

  we've discussed at length what makes [TS]

  this this film good and part of it for [TS]

  me is just that as a vision [TS]

  it's totally consistent it'sit's the [TS]

  tone is even throughout for me it looks [TS]

  perfectly seamless there's very little [TS]

  that I look at it and say like yeah that [TS]

  looks faker I don't buy that or [TS]

  something like that there's there's just [TS]

  a sort of unity of vision in this movie [TS]

  that I really appreciate you never you [TS]

  never sort of pop out of the filament [TS]

  and and think oh I'm watching a film [TS]

  you're just you're utterly engrossing [TS]

  and it'sit's as such one of the finest [TS]

  pieces of entertainment crafted on film [TS]

  a friend of mine just watch this movie [TS]

  with her kids first time her kids had [TS]

  seen it and I and what what she was [TS]

  commenting on which I really agree with [TS]

  is it doesn't feel dated in a way that a [TS]

  lot of movies from the early eighties [TS]

  feel dated because right it is in this [TS]

  class it's not too serious it's a period [TS]

  film to write in its it said in the [TS]

  outset in the thirties and so as such AI [TS]

  Parkins much more back to the serials of [TS]

  the thirties which of course was this [TS]

  the the thing that Lucas and Spielberg [TS]

  we're shooting for much as with Star [TS]

  Wars it's funny idea i came to this [TS]

  movie kind of late I actually saw last [TS]

  crusade first and I thought Raiders on [TS]

  the gas operators until I was in high [TS]

  school and yet you know it quickly [TS]

  became one of my favorites and so I [TS]

  think there is it's hard to pin down [TS]

  exactly what makes it so indelible in [TS]

  that way [TS]

  other than you know obviously everything [TS]

  technical about it is superb from the [TS]

  score to the you know cinematography [TS]

  there's a great you know a great hero [TS]

  I don't know and for me a lot of it [TS]

  comes down to a great movie for me is [TS]

  not just whether I sort of remember it [TS]

  and think about it when I walk out of [TS]

  the the film but I i'm such a sucker for [TS]

  great dialogue and quotable lines and [TS]

  that's one thing Raiders really has in [TS]

  spades is just it's just full of great [TS]

  lines and the other day actually i was [TS]

  showing Jason a as part of a one minute [TS]

  film conference contest for Empire [TS]

  Magazine someone submitted raiders of [TS]

  the lost ark done in the style of oj the [TS]

  belgian artist studio who drew Tintin [TS]

  and it's a brilliant little one minute [TS]

  piece of animation that somehow manages [TS]

  to do a wonderful job something up the [TS]

  entire movie in just 60 seconds and yet [TS]

  it's still dark and it's still remind [TS]

  you of everything that you love about [TS]

  that movie haha yep and then I said you [TS]

  could warn them for new spoke hovitos [TS]

  great grilled and this was number one on [TS]

  my list so a good job [TS]

  you stepped away from me and as I [TS]

  expected check it off on my list even as [TS]

  I had a cross out empire strikes back [TS]

  alright you got raiders of the lost ark [TS]

  maybe get Spielberg to come and talk a [TS]

  little day of your little film festival [TS]

  he's not really doing anything right i [TS]

  mean he made three he made three Indiana [TS]

  Jones movie and then retired that [TS]

  summertime pretty much it [TS]

  he is documenting the holocaust that [TS]

  support more thanks trio its trees [TS]

  documenting the Holocaust and making [TS]

  movies where the Nazis are cartoon [TS]

  villains it's a strange life [TS]

  steven spielberg all right serenity [TS]

  Caldwell Europe no Empire no Raiders go [TS]

  ahead of paranoia raters surprisingly i [TS]

  actually did not put those on my drown [TS]

  you just do they're gonna go well [TS]

  because i was pretty much convinced that [TS]

  if dan didn't get Empire john wood and [TS]

  then once I saw the draft order i was [TS]

  sure that John was going to get Empire [TS]

  and that left and with Raiders which [TS]

  meant that if i wanted to nominate [TS]

  anything i have to nominate one of the [TS]

  other Star Wars movies or one of the [TS]

  other Indiana Jones movies and neither [TS]

  of those [TS]

  neither of the other ones really fit my [TS]

  top ten guys are so predictable eating [TS]

  right now [TS]

  yeah barycentric either Greg to leave it [TS]

  all the image so instead i kind of i [TS]

  went with the other movie that I watched [TS]

  incessantly as a child which is Joe [TS]

  Johnston's the rocket team [TS]

  yeah yeah which I which I love dearly it [TS]

  is it is the movie that when I am sick [TS]

  or when I am just feeling down that I [TS]

  just put on in the background and i've [TS]

  i've watched it in whole and in parts [TS]

  more times than I can count [TS]

  it's set it's beautiful because it's [TS]

  again it's a period piece done in the [TS]

  style of 30 cereals it's fun [TS]

  it has excellent which I know Jason also [TS]

  jennifer connelly but you haven't [TS]

  Connolly yes the-the-the a slight [TS]

  enjoyable common slightly more than [TS]

  someone's gonna have to admit I love my [TS]

  Billy Campbell yes and there's something [TS]

  for everyone isn't it up with enthusiasm [TS]

  it's alan alan arkin enthusiasts yep [TS]

  Dalton is always that German accent [TS]

  busiest huh all there in the market [TS]

  you're serious and and even people who [TS]

  want their lost fixation can go back to [TS]

  rock the rocketeer and get a little bit [TS]

  of terry o'quinn recording so i mean as [TS]

  Howard Hughes need a mustache use of the [TS]

  mustache of all tell him how are you [TS]

  said so anyway it's a it's a great film [TS]

  it was complete under-represented when [TS]

  it first came out which made me sad but [TS]

  uh but it was that like it was one of [TS]

  those films that I just I had the VCR [TS]

  the VHS of and just wore the VHS down so [TS]

  much that i believe we ended up copying [TS]

  it to beta and then continue to watch on [TS]

  beta it's and also it's in my hometown [TS]

  of Los Angeles so there there are lots [TS]

  of real landmarks and lots of fake [TS]

  landmarks i don't know this is its it is [TS]

  a movie near and dear to my heart and I [TS]

  i'm having trouble talking about it [TS]

  because it's it's just one of those [TS]

  things that's there that makes sense [TS]

  it's always been there i particularly [TS]

  like the destruction of the land part of [TS]

  the authentic Hollywoodland signed yeah [TS]

  nice touch [TS]

  I like the initial test run where [TS]

  they're sort of [TS]

  gleefully hey sure it's a rocket tied to [TS]

  a guy let's try it out [TS]

  oh jeez I almost died and now there goes [TS]

  the jetpack it's it's a nice it's nice [TS]

  more like they're not very bright are [TS]

  they [TS]

  and then they get what's coming to him [TS]

  yeah i love the quote after that we like [TS]

  yeah we were gonna need a lawyer is like [TS]

  no we're going to need a helmet that [TS]

  it's good stuff the rocket here and [TS]

  that's over [TS]

  alright it's my turn now as the as the [TS]

  host I have to last in the first round [TS]

  and then we will go wrap right back [TS]

  around to glen so I'm not gonna not [TS]

  gonna make two pics i'm just going to [TS]

  make one and looking at what's left [TS]

  after my board has been decimated by the [TS]

  pics earlier in this round i am going to [TS]

  pick another movie we did an entire [TS]

  podcast about the beloved Rob Reiner [TS]

  film The Princess Bride [TS]

  that is my selection one of my favorite [TS]

  movies one of the most quotable movies [TS]

  of all time [TS]

  a delightful comedy that a that not only [TS]

  having a great casting and it being so [TS]

  quotable sending up the entire fairytale [TS]

  genre while at the same time also [TS]

  celebrating it i have i have more than [TS]

  one rob reiner movie on my list i am [TS]

  shocking shockingly but i'm at toward [TS]

  the top at North haha yes north is right [TS]

  there a few good men north yep I'm note [TS]

  that the princess bride a classic I [TS]

  can't believe it's still there [TS]

  it was actually number two on my list of [TS]

  potential pics so you know what can you [TS]

  say that about me not picking the [TS]

  princess bride would be inconceivable [TS]

  without meat head would be such an [TS]

  influence in your life who knew meathead [TS]

  I know [TS]

  alright princess princess bride anybody [TS]

  is this is the silence just shocked and [TS]

  in people being a palter you know [TS]

  process where is on my ok but it's lower [TS]

  down right API guys in the top like [TS]

  10-15 I pulled I pulled around on that [TS]

  didn't put it down folder and we get [TS]

  snapped out who [TS]

  yeah its use that to me making a tiny [TS]

  little mistake [TS]

  no that's that's doing good strategy so [TS]

  i gotta the second movie to feature [TS]

  Peter Falk yes Peter Farrakhan i'm not [TS]

  going to be a Colombo podcasts just [TS]

  collectible film festival also i'm [TS]

  willing to wager if anyone like to take [TS]

  my bet it will also be the last movie [TS]

  which completes her fearful and I don't [TS]

  have anything to do with our combo movie [TS]

  not only delayed for TV movies where is [TS]

  that Star Trek movie with peter falk as [TS]

  a Klingon so besides that's really far [TS]

  eight days [TS]

  all right now that ends the first round [TS]

  we had wings of desire structure to [TS]

  alien Empire Strikes Back raiders of the [TS]

  lost ark the rocket here and the [TS]

  princess bride [TS]

  what can I go to the score collection [TS]

  that's right let's get this car is in [TS]

  the lead with five points is Glenn [TS]

  fleischmann he got the deal are [TS]

  mysterious and rarely rarely used [TS]

  foreign language film bones who [TS]

  everybody else tied with one so when [TS]

  what is your second selection [TS]

  alright i pick up Blade Runner which I [TS]

  suspect that many people online little [TS]

  gun in the second film [TS]

  yes so I mean I've seen I think every [TS]

  version of Blade Runner and notions [TS]

  every version is the one that's the [TS]

  director's cut but i think really Scott [TS]

  toured with that had some stuff restored [TS]

  before they do the full directors cut [TS]

  and so I've seen several I think I've [TS]

  seen at least three or four different [TS]

  versions of this movie and the last one [TS]

  I saw was the fully restored car was [TS]

  shown at the cinerama the restored [TS]

  cinema theatre in seattle in it's just [TS]

  it's a it was a good movie with the [TS]

  voice-over it wasn't great [TS]

  there are lots of laws lots of [TS]

  difficulties as it got sort of brought [TS]

  back closer and closer to the original [TS]

  vision have to say the sort of ultimate [TS]

  version that's out there is fantastic [TS]

  without the voiceover it's a quiet film [TS]

  it's creepy it's got all the new are [TS]

  there and there's anticipation it's [TS]

  harder to protect it seems more surreal [TS]

  and strange and and the same time [TS]

  possible so i'll say also a blade runner [TS]

  but that particular version as I don't [TS]

  think every version the movie holds up [TS]

  as well as the one in which there is no [TS]

  Harrison Ford telling us everything as [TS]

  it happens I think that's the one that's [TS]

  available for theatrical display at our [TS]

  film festival to directors that cut [TS]

  that's a good choice i figured that one [TS]

  might go [TS]

  my wife is not i tried to show that [TS]

  movie two or three times just fall [TS]

  asleep all three times [TS]

  who else ya got it's all there was it's [TS]

  a little sleep inducing even if its good [TS]

  radio [TS]

  oh well it's me yeah you can like where [TS]

  you can sit in the back of the theater [TS]

  and throw things and blend well he said [TS]

  the book was better our supposed to go [TS]

  purchase that's the correct adventure [TS]

  game you know I think my problem with [TS]

  blade runner's that I saw it for the [TS]

  first time for a psychology class in [TS]

  college boy computacion yeah that's [TS]

  really the best way to see any movies [TS]

  it's true [TS]

  yes it was a it was a psychology class [TS]

  on memory and ever since then I've just [TS]

  been completely uninterested in what you [TS]

  did remember it time to die [TS]

  time travelers are immune to the charms [TS]

  of blade runner it's a great atmosphere [TS]

  film i just i find it impenetrable as an [TS]

  area around breaking in its visuals and [TS]

  sound track is really interesting the [TS]

  Angelus soundtrack we have how many [TS]

  people saw it without the narration that [TS]

  without hurting for i started the only [TS]

  version I've actually seen is the second [TS]

  i guess the director's cut that doesn't [TS]

  the first directors can I don't know I [TS]

  know there's a lot of middle part one [TS]

  that doesn't have it does not have a [TS]

  voiceover yeah but it's not the final [TS]

  cut the entry in wikipedia is ridiculous [TS]

  for Blade Runner because it explains in [TS]

  unbelievable detail as only wikipedia [TS]

  can how many different kinds served in [TS]

  but it's still that's a that's a [TS]

  perfectly legitimate selection and [TS]

  nobody will be you other than maybe Dan [TS]

  yeah I've done all right excellent we'll [TS]

  move on to scott who already has [TS]

  slaughtered star trek to on his five [TS]

  film festival day what's your second [TS]

  selection Scott well the only way you [TS]

  can follow up star trek to other than [TS]

  star trek 3 which is that what i will [TS]

  not do 6236 we got Scott space that's [TS]

  right [TS]

  you killed my son directory structure 3 [TS]

  is with the Carr brothers really i love [TS]

  the Coen brothers I i was just wondering [TS]

  if we were going to get a coen brothers [TS]

  with at least great i have one on my [TS]

  list probably enough [TS]

  you probably don't have this one but [TS]

  maybe you do i love the movie that [TS]

  nearly cost them their careers because [TS]

  it performed so poorly the hudsucker [TS]

  proxy you know for kids [TS]

  exactly that's a good movie i adore that [TS]

  film is too [TS]

  fantastic movie it has bruce campbell [TS]

  and for the people who like bruce [TS]

  campbell it stars tim robbins as a [TS]

  immediate basically who has an idea and [TS]

  he wants to be big in business so he [TS]

  goes to hudsucker industries a little [TS]

  does he know that the the CEO and [TS]

  chairman founder of hudsucker industries [TS]

  a recently hurled himself out of the [TS]

  window from during a board meeting and [TS]

  dies from the 44th 45th counting the [TS]

  mezzanine floor i add it's just it's [TS]

  it's it's a screwball kind of movie that [TS]

  is funny [TS]

  it really is doesn't make much sense but [TS]

  that's alright [TS]

  it has a lot of great lines it has a lot [TS]

  of interesting characters and apparently [TS]

  nobody wanted to see it in the movie [TS]

  theater shame it's a shame but also has [TS]

  Paul Newman that's a good that's a great [TS]

  movie yeah I will not I will not yell [TS]

  leave it just hula-hoops who straws [TS]

  ya know what's good that's being top 50 [TS]

  alright we're going to my top 7500 was [TS]

  going to say I actually forgot [TS]

  completely about the Coen brothers [TS]

  somehow while coming up with my I [TS]

  thought about them I thought I like all [TS]

  the movies and I'm not sure any of the [TS]

  movies I like enough to put it in my top [TS]

  20 but I like I would have started [TS]

  raising arizona up there isn't [TS]

  yeah when Cohen brothers it's in my top [TS]

  10 alright well we'll get to that [TS]

  perhaps maybe if it's not the hudsucker [TS]

  proxy you're wrong haha [TS]

  Steve once you have a and on the board [TS]

  what is that yes having wasted that pic [TS]

  i will proceed to waste my second pick [TS]

  excellent uh it's anthony from no well [TS]

  yeah well never mind about that was a [TS]

  great picture was alright mom so I [TS]

  picked this one is in fact my favorite [TS]

  film I think comedy in general doesn't [TS]

  get a fair shake when it comes to people [TS]

  i commit with all-time best lists [TS]

  yeah you see your american film [TS]

  institute lists and and any other list [TS]

  that you might come across about you [TS]

  know the greatest films of all time you [TS]

  almost never see a comedy that's been [TS]

  made in the last half century i have 3 [TS]

  m3 in my top 10 for what it's worth four [TS]

  yeah we're in my top 10 yeah and it [TS]

  seems wholly unfair considering that [TS]

  it's generally accepted that comedy is [TS]

  much much harder to pull off and then [TS]

  drama that's said picking a comedy is [TS]

  going to be really divisive I suspect [TS]

  since humor so subjective but this is [TS]

  actually the funniest movie ever made [TS]

  objectively and that is a that is [TS]

  Caddyshack wow oh yeah people do love [TS]

  the caddyshack Caddyshack is fantastic [TS]

  said features for the funniest comedians [TS]

  of all time all with very different [TS]

  styles and at the height of their powers [TS]

  individually they're great but then see [TS]

  you get to see them interact in various [TS]

  groupings are throughout the course of [TS]

  the film and it's just sheer joy I had [TS]

  to pick a favorite i probably go with [TS]

  the the incomparable Ted Knight who's [TS]

  his his facial expressions throughout [TS]

  the film is sort of slow burn just just [TS]

  absolutely slaves me and he's fantastic [TS]

  in that Eminem another eminently [TS]

  quotable film maybe too much so you can [TS]

  hardly avoid Caddyshack quotes if you're [TS]

  around people that liked the film but it [TS]

  is a great way to identify kindred [TS]

  spirits if you know if you have to be at [TS]

  a baseball game and an opposing [TS]

  fielder's going out for an easy pop-up [TS]

  and you shout out Noonan that the six [TS]

  people who turn around and laugh because [TS]

  of those are the guys you want to have a [TS]

  beer with sake beer sent to them [TS]

  immediately that point but yeah I mean [TS]

  it's said that the thing that I love so [TS]

  much about Caddyshack really most [TS]

  importantly is is when I sit down and [TS]

  watch a movie once in awhile i want [TS]

  something that's kind of more [TS]

  thought-provoking but most of the time [TS]

  you know i just spent all day thinking I [TS]

  just want to have some fun and this this [TS]

  film is just pure fun [TS]

  I mean there's a there is an overarching [TS]

  plot line but it really barely intrude [TS]

  into the film and then there's there's [TS]

  just something i think really very [TS]

  soothing about the country club is a [TS]

  setting it gets kinda like being at [TS]

  disneyland you know that the real world [TS]

  can't intrude here and you know it's [TS]

  just it just has this real nice vibe to [TS]

  it and then the cast of course looks [TS]

  like they're having a ball [TS]

  i have read the book of Caddyshack which [TS]

  suggests that in fact they were maybe [TS]

  having a bit too much of a baja but but [TS]

  it is a very definitely I think one of [TS]

  the funniest movies of all time and it [TS]

  is my favorite film it and like so many [TS]

  great films you know it's it's something [TS]

  that can be appreciated by kids of all [TS]

  ages you know you fight for the youngins [TS]

  you've got the the dancing gopher [TS]

  yep and you know kids maybe a little bit [TS]

  older I enjoy the the classic one of the [TS]

  all-time greatest poop jokes the baby [TS]

  ruth in the pool scene and then you know [TS]

  teenagers and and stunted adults like me [TS]

  uhhh let's see Cindy Morgan's boobs so [TS]

  thumbs-up to Caddyshack comes up that's [TS]

  right I've never actually seen [TS]

  Caddyshack well you're gonna have to go [TS]

  to steve's day of the film festival then [TS]

  we will move on to John siracusa John [TS]

  what's your next pick you have the [TS]

  empire strikes back already in your back [TS]

  pocket so you're you're living large you [TS]

  could do anything now I'm thinking that [TS]

  most of my pics are safe and so far [TS]

  predicted correctly they're not known as [TS]

  picking my stuff and not because they're [TS]

  obscure but because you're all giant I [TS]

  John's i suspect that you and I have [TS]

  some pics and common on our Chelsea's my [TS]

  second paper going to stop me but go [TS]

  ahead is Francis Ford Coppola 1972 [TS]

  masterpiece The Godfather that was on my [TS]

  left I'm just saying yeah we add is that [TS]

  that's not a surprising Pikmin great [TS]

  film list i don't think so this is kind [TS]

  of the genre-defining gangster movie and [TS]

  a lot of times when you're having John [TS]

  redefining movie as perhaps then can [TS]

  attest it's looked upon with great [TS]

  reverence because it influences all the [TS]

  movies that came after it or two in [TS]

  technology problems we want to talk [TS]

  about you know how all of a sudden all [TS]

  the laptop show the keyboard up towards [TS]

  the screen and put a touchpad in front [TS]

  of them are all of a sudden all the [TS]

  phones were just a big giant screen [TS]

  right and after blade runner all the [TS]

  sci-fi movies were dark ingredients like [TS]

  that but uh in the case of non apple [TS]

  examples they will they will say that [TS]

  you all right so not really about [TS]

  examples [TS]

  yeah that define know what they say like [TS]

  you know played around to find the genre [TS]

  but it wasn't that great of a movie and [TS]

  you know it's always looked upon with [TS]

  reference because it it changed the way [TS]

  things were done that you know and so it [TS]

  gets it gets extra boost for being like [TS]

  the first one and like the one that [TS]

  everyone else walks in its footsteps in [TS]

  the case of the Godfather i'll argue [TS]

  that not only was it the first John [TS]

  redefining big Hollywood gangster movie [TS]

  it remains the best which is very [TS]

  strange were usually the first one has [TS]

  some problems and kinda gives a theme [TS]

  and then people sort of riff on that and [TS]

  get better if you go back and watch the [TS]

  godfather first it is a movie of its [TS]

  time it looks like a movie shot in the [TS]

  seventies [TS]

  I you know I can close my eyes and see [TS]

  the film grain I think that's true of a [TS]

  lot of movies and seventies you think of [TS]

  taxi driver or you know any of those [TS]

  movies in that that era they look like [TS]

  70 movies n and this also looks like a [TS]

  70s movie but it's not you know it's set [TS]

  in and as an earlier era I but it's [TS]

  surprisingly modern in its sensibilities [TS]

  you know what i mean and the [TS]

  infrastructure of the movie it's got [TS]

  it's got good bones kinda like when I [TS]

  say house has good bones [TS]

  this is a solid movie under there but it [TS]

  laid on top of it is this sort of [TS]

  deliberate seventies movie pacing like [TS]

  this is a long movie I had to look up [TS]

  how long it wasn't like what this must [TS]

  be over to our think it's close to three [TS]

  hours it's an extremely long movie the [TS]

  type of movie where you can imagine they [TS]

  put up a big title card says [TS]

  intermission everyone gets up to stretch [TS]

  their legs for a little bit it is you [TS]

  know it defines an epic movie I that but [TS]

  the Ark of the movie is just a solid [TS]

  underneath there and they say we've got [TS]

  a story to tell it has a beginning it [TS]

  has middle has an end and we're going to [TS]

  tell it and they just let it unfold and [TS]

  you're just wrapped the entire time it [TS]

  has some of the great individual scenes [TS]

  of any movie ever [TS]

  great actors the script is tight the the [TS]

  parts in there that are special effects [TS]

  mostly just blood and violence stuff [TS]

  like that don't look okie even after all [TS]

  these years for the CG and everything [TS]

  maybe one or two punches that James Caan [TS]

  fails to land on the street to hit it [TS]

  one beating up his a his sister's [TS]

  husband that's about the worst thing you [TS]

  can say about this movie that I maybe [TS]

  they would have you know we shot that [TS]

  fixed it to make it look actually hit [TS]

  him but other than that you know it is [TS]

  beyond reproach and in fact I would say [TS]

  all the gangster movies that have come [TS]

  out of it after it with two possible [TS]

  exceptions which you may hear about [TS]

  later [TS]

  uh [TS]

  have failed to live up to the standards [TS]

  set by the Codfather failed in many many [TS]

  ways they they didn't recognize what was [TS]

  important about the Godfather you see [TS]

  lots of movies like it's kind of like [TS]

  the and the chest / seen an alien that's [TS]

  that's you know that the thing that we [TS]

  remember in pop culture well you [TS]

  remember the horse's head in the bed [TS]

  from the Godfather that's not what this [TS]

  movie was about and like if that's what [TS]

  you came away with aegyo just that [TS]

  horse's head in the bed did you see that [TS]

  thing burst out of his chest [TS]

  I was a chest burster is more important [TS]

  daily and then the Horsehead was to the [TS]

  God products not putting on Father's [TS]

  about I think about i think about [TS]

  Michael getting the the gun out of the [TS]

  toilet and then dropping the gun and [TS]

  walking away i mean that's that's the [TS]

  scene that i always think of when I [TS]

  think the Godfather with a broken jaw [TS]

  and he's just sitting there in the train [TS]

  noise in the background getting a lot of [TS]

  Yakima I could do a very long podcast [TS]

  about the godfather and I may do that [TS]

  yeah that would be good [TS]

  and yet and yet when when you did a [TS]

  podcast about a gangster movie wasn't [TS]

  the Codfather which I find perhaps you [TS]

  will be seeing that movie again perhaps [TS]

  on someone's list [TS]

  perhaps it's quite it's i know for a [TS]

  fact it's on someone's list so we'll see [TS]

  alright that's a great pic that is a [TS]

  classic that is one of the all-time [TS]

  greats the Godfather I will point out [TS]

  the godfather part two is still [TS]

  available if somebody else would like [TS]

  that also part three is available i just [TS]

  got if you're interested in everybody [TS]

  right Dan Morgan yep your pictures Lost [TS]

  Ark what's next [TS]

  I did so my my second pic was actually [TS]

  mentioned already by one of our [TS]

  listeners I'm gonna pick the classic [TS]

  George Roy hill 1969 film Butch Cassidy [TS]

  and the Sundance Kid [TS]

  whoo-hoo excellent movie that's just [TS]

  weird being horrible reason how much I [TS]

  like mobile movies i mean this this [TS]

  movie opens with quotable lines you know [TS]

  butch Cassidy's and what happened to the [TS]

  old bank it was beautiful [TS]

  the guy says people get robbing it says [TS]

  small price to pay for beauty [TS]

  the whole thing just from start to [TS]

  finish it's kind of a lovely meandering [TS]

  little tail and I was just looking at [TS]

  the the synopsis on IMDb which i think [TS]

  is a hilarious synopsis because it says [TS]

  it's like two lines and it says that to [TS]

  western bank / train robbers flee to [TS]

  Bolivia when the law gets too close and [TS]

  like I don't know if that's really [TS]

  encapsulate the entire [TS]

  i removed friend guess it's kind of a [TS]

  plot but it takes a long time to get [TS]

  there of some of my favorite scenes in [TS]

  this movie I think one of the tops is [TS]

  Butch and Sundance having been followed [TS]

  over vast swaths of the open desert by [TS]

  these mysterious guys who are these guys [TS]

  find themselves in an attempt to lose [TS]

  them find themselves on top of a cliff [TS]

  above a river and they're arguing you [TS]

  know about who should jump first and [TS]

  finally sundance confesses I can't swim [TS]

  and put just looks at amigos the fall [TS]

  kill ya i don't know i love this movie [TS]

  removing a bachelor it's a fantastic [TS]

  movie and it's full of you know which [TS]

  get a both Paul Newman and read for [TS]

  Robert Redford are perfect in the role [TS]

  as their chemistry is unparalleled [TS]

  there's another great scene where yeah [TS]

  they're robbing a train car and there's [TS]

  a one of the best moments of comic [TS]

  timing ever where Paul Newman just about [TS]

  finished saying well that ought to do [TS]

  and almost doesn't get the last word of [TS]

  mouth before the entire train car just [TS]

  explodes shreddy just sort of you know [TS]

  dowsing them all entry in splinters of [TS]

  wood and money falling everywhere and [TS]

  Robert Redford just sorta looks amigos [TS]

  think use enough dynamite there butch so [TS]

  it's just I don't know it's as a series [TS]

  of vignettes it's great from one to be [TS]

  you know the beginning to the end and [TS]

  the end especially which has this sort [TS]

  of futility about it because you know if [TS]

  you're any student of history you you [TS]

  kind of know how it it ends which is to [TS]

  say not well but it's still in some ways [TS]

  kind of upbeat and i love the the last [TS]

  sort of brief scene there which is just [TS]

  a still photo of them running out to [TS]

  face everybody [TS]

  maybe people living our entire living [TS]

  around have the entire book maybe [TS]

  there's just a few of them out there is [TS]

  just it's it's a great fitting end to [TS]

  the movie and and i want to add one [TS]

  little other scene which is a quiet [TS]

  scene which I love is like it's like [TS]

  like a third to a half way through the [TS]

  movie when they're just sort of sitting [TS]

  on a porch talking and you realize these [TS]

  two guys have been hanging out together [TS]

  for years and they don't know each [TS]

  other's real names [TS]

  and so they sort of oh yeah my name's [TS]

  Parker and it's just it's a great it's a [TS]

  great little moment when you realize [TS]

  these guys are like like brothers [TS]

  essentially and how much they really [TS]

  know about each other but wonderful [TS]

  movie great score great cinematography [TS]

  and a great script by William Goldman [TS]

  has already been thrown up there once [TS]

  and for the princess bride [TS]

  yeah tell me a little about yourself Dan [TS]

  free pick against you got the Burt [TS]

  Bacharach soundtrack to indeed [TS]

  yeah you could add a bicycle what a [TS]

  great bicycle so miss Caldwell your next [TS]

  you have you got the rocketeer what's [TS]

  next [TS]

  okay well it's tough to choose which was [TS]

  next but i think i will go with this one [TS]

  my second pick which is actually number [TS]

  six on my list is a silent film from [TS]

  1927 and has been on for in the past has [TS]

  been butchered several different ways [TS]

  and they've added Queen soundtracks to [TS]

  it [TS]

  they've done all kinds of horrible [TS]

  things to it but as of 2010 it is mostly [TS]

  free complete and beautiful again and [TS]

  that is fritz lang's metropolis [TS]

  oh my goodness which is dumped you huh [TS]

  it was another german film degree [TS]

  there's another German felt in all [TS]

  seriousness I i have little patience for [TS]

  silent films in that my my friend [TS]

  Elizabeth when I was in college was [TS]

  studying silent films and while I love [TS]

  Buster Keaton and you know max Linder [TS]

  and that was fun to watch in general [TS]

  should bring home these silent films and [TS]

  they were just you know I'd watch 10 [TS]

  minutes and just and want to go to sleep [TS]

  because like dan I like what about [TS]

  equitable dialogue I like fun fast-paced [TS]

  things but metropolis is a you know as [TS]

  originally shown was a hundred and fifty [TS]

  three minute film and the recovered [TS]

  footage in total puts it at about a [TS]

  hundred and forty-five minute running [TS]

  time so it is not a short silent film [TS]

  and you'd think that it would you know [TS]

  get bogged down or something like that [TS]

  but it really doesn't it is a it is a [TS]

  story of about the future and about [TS]

  revolution and [TS]

  robots so it has it has a really nice [TS]

  sort of sci-fi bend to it it's it's been [TS]

  accused of being a pseudo propaganda [TS]

  film and it's very much you know worker [TS]

  power and down with the man but it's the [TS]

  way that it approaches it is a kind of [TS]

  kind of the way that I really really [TS]

  good film approaches religion in that [TS]

  it's it puts it up on a sort of art [TS]

  pedestal and and takes takes a step back [TS]

  so instead of saying you know oh these [TS]

  are the citizens of Germany or these are [TS]

  the citizens of Russia it's you know [TS]

  these are the citizens of this post [TS]

  futuristic metropolis where all of the [TS]

  workers live in high you know fanciful [TS]

  skyscraper all of the the managers live [TS]

  in High fanciful skyscrapers and all the [TS]

  workers toil down below and their these [TS]

  assets in this film are just incredible [TS]

  i mean when you consider about how much [TS]

  money they spent something like [TS]

  5,000,000 rights marks which I think [TS]

  about to ya in today's money it's [TS]

  something like a hundred couple hundred [TS]

  million dollars so they spent on par [TS]

  with some of the big blockbusters like [TS]

  the superhero blockbusters of the past [TS]

  couple years and they have these big [TS]

  beautifully hand-painted sets they have [TS]

  this the right one of the wrote this [TS]

  robot that stars very prominently in the [TS]

  plot I and the special effects that go [TS]

  along with the robot and what she what [TS]

  she basically accomplishes and does to [TS]

  the workers and humans around her [TS]

  the special effects for this film [TS]

  despite being in 1927 are absolutely [TS]

  astonishing you watch it now and it's [TS]

  you know [TS]

  yes it's not it's not as fanciful as [TS]

  some of the cgi but i'd argue that it's [TS]

  just as impressive and that's there's [TS]

  some there's some great scenes there's [TS]

  again all this this is a very cinematic [TS]

  movie obviously since it since it is [TS]

  silent they really have to rely on [TS]

  imagery and they do so very very [TS]

  powerfully there's a the the person we [TS]

  follow during this during this story is [TS]

  the son of the head of Metropolis [TS]

  Frederator who decides that he's going [TS]

  to become after falling in love with the [TS]

  girl of course he's going to become [TS]

  noble and then go and help the workers [TS]

  the plight of the workers and so in [TS]

  order to really understand their [TS]

  position and get into the shoes he [TS]

  offers to trade places with one of the [TS]

  workers for a day so he goes and he [TS]

  basically spends a 12-hour day operating [TS]

  this giant machine that keeps the city [TS]

  running and you just get this picture of [TS]

  him going up and operating these what [TS]

  look like giant clock arms where he's [TS]

  just turning them like taking his whole [TS]

  entire body and turning these clock arms [TS]

  two different positions in order to keep [TS]

  the machine up and running [TS]

  that's it's such a stark amazing like [TS]

  the imagery is just is just fantastic [TS]

  it's alloreactive that's a great pic [TS]

  I've always loved that movie too that's [TS]

  the film that Hitler and Goebbels I mean [TS]

  I'm not trying to make its Phil [TS]

  misinterpreted in in many ways by many [TS]

  different kinds of people [TS]

  Hitler and Goebbels like that film [TS]

  somehow and is a story that fits long [TS]

  was called into girls office and what [TS]

  was going on and gobble said we love [TS]

  when he came to power in people so we [TS]

  love your film metropolis it was the [TS]

  thing that inspired us we want to take [TS]

  over filmmaking and Fritz long so I'll [TS]

  have to think about it very hard [TS]

  he walked out of the office got on the [TS]

  train and left the country never came [TS]

  back [TS]

  yep and his his wife was a Nazi [TS]

  sympathizer you apparently they get in [TS]

  your career already get us leni [TS]

  riefenstahl instead inspector and the [TS]

  rest is ya know I think it's funny this [TS]

  this film I am [TS]

  ice-watch the first kind of this film [TS]

  while the one I saw was I think about a [TS]

  hundred and ten minutes back before they [TS]

  had found they found missing footage in [TS]

  a basically a can't in a canister and [TS]

  someone's private library in 2009 and [TS]

  then they decided that ok in a year we [TS]

  are going to restore this 16-millimeter [TS]

  footage because that the whole reason [TS]

  why the film is kind of broken up and [TS]

  dead in the first places that right [TS]

  after it was originally shown in Britain [TS]

  or in Germany when they tried to ship it [TS]

  out to external countries and like here [TS]

  lets you know we want we want to show [TS]

  off this film the distributor's overseas [TS]

  and movie houses basically said no one's [TS]

  going to sit and watch a hundred and [TS]

  fifty minutes silent film we're going to [TS]

  cut the [TS]

  thing down to 90 minutes also we're [TS]

  going to show it and faster frames per [TS]

  second because no one wants to sit there [TS]

  for that one crazy son track yeah and [TS]

  and yeah and let's add let's add all [TS]

  kinds of different versions of live [TS]

  music and it just got distorted so that [TS]

  most of the copies that we have the of [TS]

  the film in present-day are these awful [TS]

  90-minute ones that were completely [TS]

  recut so you couldn't even really get a [TS]

  sense of the story it's just like okay [TS]

  their businesses films cool images but [TS]

  it went to the point where when I found [TS]

  out through a friends that they had [TS]

  found this footage and they were [TS]

  basically working hard core to have it [TS]

  restored for a premiere in Germany uh [TS]

  art which is a over so European art [TS]

  channel was broadcasting it live so I [TS]

  actually in February [TS]

  actually in February [TS]

  right in 2010 i actually like hacked [TS]

  into the feed so that I could watch the [TS]

  live broadcast of this thing on like a [TS]

  500-foot screen zoom in and enhance why [TS]

  you hacked into the feed-forward one [TS]

  character at a time [TS]

  well I think I think it's a great i [TS]

  think it's a great pic and who knew that [TS]

  we were gonna have a silent film and [TS]

  ended another german film in the flock [TS]

  around what we do haha i promise that my [TS]

  last german film i am up next and I I'd [TS]

  it's tough because I got a lot of [TS]

  different pics here I could go with some [TS]

  obvious pics i'm going to go with [TS]

  another comedy and I cannot believe this [TS]

  but yes Steve I have so influenced by [TS]

  meathead s that i'm going to pick [TS]

  another Rob Reiner movie and video two [TS]

  ways it is one of the funniest films [TS]

  ever made the rockumentary mockumentary [TS]

  this is spinal tap ok i originally I [TS]

  believe there's a three [TS]

  speaking of Metropolis there i think [TS]

  there's like a three-and-a-half-hour cut [TS]

  of this movie to that was that was made [TS]

  and then they realized that nobody would [TS]

  watch it and i think the final one is [TS]

  about 90 minutes although depending on [TS]

  which DVD you bought and i bought this i [TS]

  bought this in the criterion DVD i [TS]

  bought this on the cd-rom that they that [TS]

  they put out with a movie on cd-rom that [TS]

  was a brief thing I i have the MGM DVD [TS]

  and I don't have a blu-ray yet because [TS]

  it was shot in 16-millimeter and i'm not [TS]

  quite sure what the point of the blu-ray [TS]

  is because you know there's not that [TS]

  much resolution 16-millimeter print but [TS]

  inevitably will hide and blu-ray too [TS]

  hilarious movie the crack chronicles the [TS]

  lives of this this terrible heavy metal [TS]

  band that is past its sell-by date and [TS]

  is still kind of soldiering on as their [TS]

  crowds the crowds that come see them [TS]

  gets get smaller and smaller and they're [TS]

  not very bright and they're kind of [TS]

  breaking up and there's a girlfriend [TS]

  who's sort of pushing that the guys who [TS]

  were in the band apart and the drummer's [TS]

  keep dying and have to be replaced with [TS]

  other drummers and it is again it's [TS]

  quotable and there's some famous lines [TS]

  obviously like it it just goes to 11 [TS]

  but they're there are so many funny [TS]

  lines in this not just from christopher [TS]

  guest and michael mckean and Harry [TS]

  Shearer [TS]

  but Paul Shaffer is in this movie who [TS]

  else is in this Bruno Kirby is in this [TS]

  movie and it's got some great scenes as [TS]

  a limo driver Billy Crystal is in it [TS]

  with dana carvey 41 seen as minds who [TS]

  are also caterers [TS]

  uh-huh just wash it for you have Paul [TS]

  Shaffer Schaefer is is a party fuckin [TS]

  the howard hesseman is a DJ the just [TS]

  some great it's just a classic movie it [TS]

  it people some people apparently [TS]

  believed that it was actually real which [TS]

  is impossible to think as you watch it [TS]

  that it could be considered something [TS]

  real because it's ridiculous and oh and [TS]

  I should say Rob Reiner isn't it as the [TS]

  as Marty Bergey v semi incompetent [TS]

  documentary filmmaker who makes the [TS]

  movie this is spinal tap [TS]

  so he's the both the real director and [TS]

  the fake director of this movie a [TS]

  classic if you can find the criterion [TS]

  DVD there's actually a commentary track [TS]

  by the actors and the director talking [TS]

  about the movie that's out of print now [TS]

  the MGM DVD which is out there is an in [TS]

  character commentary so they're actually [TS]

  both pretty good and the criterion DVD [TS]

  comes with about I gotta say 40 minutes [TS]

  of cut footage from the actual movie [TS]

  that includes some scenes that are [TS]

  funnier than anything that's in the [TS]

  movie believe it or not there's an [TS]

  extended scene with Bruno Kirby where [TS]

  Bruno Kirby the the band gets Bruno [TS]

  Kirby high and then there's a quick cut [TS]

  and Bruno Kirby is wearing his underwear [TS]

  and dancing and singing Frank Sinatra [TS]

  songs that is it i would argue funnier [TS]

  than anything actually in the movie but [TS]

  there are lots of reasons why they cut [TS]

  it out [TS]

  so this is spinal tap you know it let [TS]

  the first mockumentary i think it is [TS]

  essentially the first mockumentary and [TS]

  led to christopher guest who is Nigel [TS]

  want it on the band members in this he [TS]

  ended up making a bunch of [TS]

  mockumentaries like Best in Show down [TS]

  the line but this was sort of the root [TS]

  of that so you know this is spinal tap I [TS]

  I i would consider this one of the two [TS]

  or three funniest movies ever made and i [TS]

  love it dearly and if you haven't seen [TS]

  it [TS]

  what is wrong with you you should see it [TS]

  it's a great crazy movie [TS]

  so this is spinal tap ago I got meat had [TS]

  twice i'm going to invite rob reiner to [TS]

  my day at our film festival he'll just [TS]

  come and sit there in the I auditioned [TS]

  for stand by me but that's not gonna [TS]

  well who knows that you know I'm not [TS]

  gonna make it a Rob Reiner day at that [TS]

  time I'm done with my Rob Reiner pics i [TS]

  know a late mother medicine but that [TS]

  helped it [TS]

  no no but I'm not surprised that people [TS]

  related to you met famous people like [TS]

  alright so this is content that's my pic [TS]

  I promise not to pick any more movies by [TS]

  meathead so many great movies like [TS]

  Lawrence of Arabia have an intermission [TS]

  and we are going to have an intermission [TS]

  now because otherwise this podcast will [TS]

  get even more out of hand and it already [TS]

  is we're gonna split the podcast here [TS]

  can everybody come back to do the other [TS]

  part of the podcast that we already [TS]

  recorded I can't make it i got a family [TS]

  alright alright well alright i guess [TS]

  possible [TS]

  well see ya brother stick around and [TS]

  next time we'll we'll find out who [TS]

  returns to complete the uncomfortable [TS]

  movie dekh draft until then let's go up [TS]

  to the snack bar happen they have bacon [TS]

  that's right please and no bacon please [TS]

  so deserve ailable at the concession [TS]

  stand fake in that's all go to the lobby [TS]

  let's all go to the lobby let's all go [TS]

  to the lobby to get i sell the treat [TS]