0:00:06the incomparable contest number 7 evilly
0:00:10january twenty well we are back on the
0:00:14uncomfortable podcast and this is a
0:00:16strange episode this is going to serve
0:00:17as our look back on 2011 basically
0:00:21meaning we don't have to do a new
0:00:22episode this week instead were but but
0:00:25here we are so it is a new episode and
0:00:27if you haven't heard the episodes before
0:00:28their new to you is joining me today on
0:00:34this magical mystery tour our Scott
0:00:37McNulty hi Scott thank you for being
0:00:39here I've always wanted to be on the
0:00:40clip show and now you are dude my bad
0:00:44news commander Riker has been bitten by
0:00:46something down on a planet as an and now
0:00:48is in sickbay reliving the first season
0:00:50of star trek the next generation it's
0:00:53terrible i hate when he get bitten by
0:00:55the clip monster or what is collector
0:00:58and also that other Voice you heard is
0:01:01Steve lots
0:01:02hi Steve hey Jason happy last year we
0:01:05have to hear about the stupid Mayans
0:01:06yeah
0:01:07hey that's right behind the last year
0:01:09ever
0:01:10but when we didn't hear the Miami we
0:01:12have to hear about the Mayan at the
0:01:14entry here the Mayans all will climb on
0:01:16to it like a boat and push off a ghost
0:01:19just disappear into the sea
0:01:22I believe they're boarding a comet
0:01:23wearing their Nikes excellent and purple
0:01:26munchos that's right that's good
0:01:28sassy yeah ah this is so the topic of
0:01:30our podcast is the heavens gate doomsday
0:01:32colors because he's gonna say these
0:01:34jokes are ripped-from-the-headlines
0:01:35we've got ahold lemon grove california
0:01:38hello you're on the air I honestly can't
0:01:40remember anything that happened in 2011
0:01:42so I'm rolling it way back
0:01:44that's the last year i have any
0:01:46recollection of also joining me are
0:01:50serenity Caldwell
0:01:52hello hello Jason and Dan Morin I'm on
0:01:56this podcast you are I am
0:01:58hello I'm glad so so we have we have
0:02:01four people here with me to have the
0:02:03podcast episode that has no topic other
0:02:05than 2011
0:02:07yes we're talking about time and we'll
0:02:09also relive some exciting moments
0:02:11because this is the incomparable clip
0:02:13show exciting moments from the past but
0:02:15before we do that I wanted to ask our
0:02:18esteemed panel if they would like to
0:02:21share a favorite thing from 2011
0:02:25something you discovered or enjoyed in
0:02:282011 just a single it out and give it a
0:02:30little last people love before we move
0:02:32into the hate and violence and horror
0:02:34and torment that is 2012
0:02:37Scott what about you something you like
0:02:38from 2011 I should wear I 2011 will go
0:02:42down in history
0:02:44well it's got history which is a very
0:02:46and focus the register yes it's true
0:02:49it's a has limited appeal but it's big
0:02:52in Germany as the year but I discovered
0:02:55in mcdonald who is the author of the
0:02:58different shall be tracked was my
0:03:00favorite novel of 2011
0:03:02I believe you mentioned that on a
0:03:03previous podcast i did but i thought i'd
0:03:06mention it again since i have this
0:03:07opportunity
0:03:08no no Scott you're on a clip show
0:03:12I believe you mentioned it on a previous
0:03:13podcast I i remember incident like it
0:03:16with you
0:03:18his settings are non-western which makes
0:03:23it very interesting to me because it's
0:03:26an alien culture and yet it's you know
0:03:28still humans so in the Dervish houses
0:03:31case it we get it set and in Turkey
0:03:33yep in the near future and like what 20
0:03:3740 20 30 something like that yeah it's
0:03:39great because i have no idea i don't
0:03:40know the cultural enough to know what is
0:03:42actually current behavior I mean know
0:03:44the technology of course but I don't
0:03:47know what's current behavior and what's
0:03:48supposed it feels it feels very genuine
0:03:51so even if it's wrong and feels right
0:03:53but I'm but make it into the
0:03:54displacement and a travel log kind of
0:03:56feel to it was like this is cool i'm
0:03:58learning things that may or may not be
0:03:59true but I'm i feel like i'm learning
0:04:01things about Turkey and about attitude
0:04:04of the Turks toured europe and then
0:04:06there's the whole sci-fi element on top
0:04:07of him and the the story of the the
0:04:09mellah fide man I don't know that which
0:04:12is which is like again i don't know if
0:04:14it's true or not but it's the the heats
0:04:15honey until he dies and then they put
0:04:20him in a stone casket full of honey and
0:04:22they stored away in the ground and he
0:04:24turns it's like his body turns into
0:04:26honey and then it's supposed to like
0:04:28have magical healing properties of
0:04:30course i love that
0:04:31word i was just like Mel ified you read
0:04:33that you're just like well I want to
0:04:35know what that is but I love the Jewish
0:04:38now didn't you didn't you read the
0:04:40Dervish house because you read another
0:04:42book of his because you thought it was
0:04:44required for the Dervish house which it
0:04:45wasn't right i did i read the river of
0:04:48God's which is a much longer book also
0:04:49very good and for some reason i thought
0:04:51the dermis house was a sequel to the
0:04:53river of gods and it turns out they're
0:04:55completely unrelated not even a little
0:04:58have you read other a mcdonald this I i
0:05:00did he actually he wrote a young adult
0:05:03book which is came out last month maybe
0:05:06december I'm was last month december i
0:05:10don't know our planes runner which was
0:05:12you know find it was so the thing I like
0:05:14about in mcdonald is that he has in his
0:05:17adult books I suppose several plots that
0:05:21seemingly are unrelated and then they
0:05:23come together and you go oh my god this
0:05:26is a beautiful tapestry of wonderful
0:05:28writing for his young adult thing he
0:05:31decided I kids are stupid so let's have
0:05:34one plots and lots of action and so it I
0:05:38mean he's though it's it's the will
0:05:40well written but it's not as complex or
0:05:42as a doesn't have the depth of his other
0:05:45works laughing seems like it just put
0:05:48kids are stupid on the first page left
0:05:50the rest blank true we summed up
0:05:53existence at that point so so dan do you
0:05:56have a favorite thing from 2011
0:05:58yeah a something that I didn't get to
0:06:01manage mention a podcast unfortunately I
0:06:03I want to kind of a clip show caster you
0:06:06I i mentioned it on a future point this
0:06:09is the new content but it's new to you
0:06:11yes Shh you mentioned it in the future
0:06:13clip I did I did
0:06:16can we can we roll that clip yet what's
0:06:17wrong now I was gonna say a video game I
0:06:22played I played much video games here
0:06:24the one that I that I found myself
0:06:25returning to thinking about the most is
0:06:28a game called deus ex human revolution
0:06:29which is a a flawed game in many ways
0:06:33but also a really fascinating game just
0:06:35in terms of the world that it exposes
0:06:37you to and this is a sort of a cyberpunk
0:06:39near future game where a lot of people
0:06:41have these human the cybernetic
0:06:43augmentation
0:06:44and there's a guy i try to figure out
0:06:47what I like so much about this game and
0:06:48i finally watched a video online from a
0:06:52I can't remember where it was but it was
0:06:53hosted a penny arcade's one of the
0:06:55videos they sort of do for their
0:06:56rotating TV series where some people are
0:06:58talking about why they thought it was
0:06:59like the best game of the year and they
0:07:01kept seizing upon well as you know they
0:07:02were frustrating parts in the game and
0:07:04they had these weird boss battles that
0:07:06didn't make they were totally throwbacks
0:07:07but in and of itself it provides it was
0:07:10such a case
0:07:11syntactically perfect exploration of
0:07:15this world and it's so the atmosphere
0:07:17and the ambience of it were so so
0:07:20pervasive and so consistent that it was
0:07:22really immersive and i just i found
0:07:24myself caught up in this entire world
0:07:26just wanted to walk around and explore
0:07:28things and not even always following the
0:07:30plot that was given me but also I think
0:07:32I really appreciated the fact that it
0:07:35took this idea of sort of branching
0:07:37choices and morality in a direction that
0:07:40was was much more subtle a lot of games
0:07:42that they're trying to implement this
0:07:44now and I think this is something going
0:07:45forward this can be really important
0:07:46video games is idea like you want to be
0:07:48a good guide you wanna be a bad guy but
0:07:49they didn't make it into this like do
0:07:51you want to save all these people or do
0:07:53you want to kill all these people it
0:07:54wasn't a heavy-handed choice there was a
0:07:56there's a point very early in the game
0:07:58where you have to get into a police
0:08:00department and you're a former cop and
0:08:02so you stopping you you talking to the
0:08:04guy at the desk was the guy you served
0:08:05with and depending on how you approach
0:08:07it
0:08:08there are a number of ways to accomplish
0:08:09that objective and I chose to do it by
0:08:12serving really sympathetic but this guy
0:08:14who's been sort of fallen from grace and
0:08:16you know had this terrible experience
0:08:18and is oh my i played the character very
0:08:20sympathetic and the guy was modified and
0:08:23eventually let me and my friend Jason
0:08:25Tasi who is also appeared on this
0:08:27podcast took the entire opposite tack he
0:08:29browbeat the guy into letting him in and
0:08:31in a normal game you know me you might
0:08:33think that's that's sort of interesting
0:08:34you can approach those two ways but it
0:08:36struck me later in the game as you're
0:08:37exiting your apartment I hadn't it's a
0:08:39second encounter with the guy works at
0:08:41all you know i decided to leave police
0:08:42department i was i just wasn't feeling
0:08:44it didn't feel like I felt that you know
0:08:46fit in there anymore and I said hello
0:08:48let me get you a job i put in your name
0:08:49or something so that'd be great
0:08:51Jason least his apartment and the guy
0:08:53tries to kill it is like you ruined my
0:08:54life and tries to shoot when I was like
0:08:57we and so neither of us knew about this
0:08:58until we discuss was like wow that
0:09:00that's fascinating these little like
0:09:01things you set in motion and then later
0:09:03on they have these huge you know little
0:09:05implications or whatever and and it was
0:09:08just it was a great game i really
0:09:09enjoyed playing it and despite its flaws
0:09:11i just found it was one of my favorite
0:09:13things this year
0:09:14alright that's great uh miss Caldwell do
0:09:18you have a favorite thing my favorite
0:09:20thing is is is broad and specific at the
0:09:23same time which is just new things in
0:09:25general I mean no this isn't yeah new
0:09:29things are great this was taking a
0:09:31letter here that last year's new things
0:09:32we're good that 2010 things suck though
0:09:35there yeah i was awarded more than old
0:09:37things here now but I mean to elaborate
0:09:40a little bit more on that in 2007 I did
0:09:43this thing where i basically i looked at
0:09:45what i was reading and I looked at what
0:09:47i was watching and and basically said
0:09:48you know alright i have i have a certain
0:09:51amount of literature that I wanted my
0:09:52belt but here it is here some books that
0:09:54i really want to read and hear some
0:09:55movies that i really want to watch and I
0:09:57just lock myself up in a room for a
0:09:59while in 2007 and did all that and 2011
0:10:02was a another similar year where I went
0:10:06through a lot of content that I'd never
0:10:07seen before I went through a bunch of TV
0:10:11shows that I had been told repeatedly to
0:10:13watch like Veronica Mars and party down
0:10:15and buffy and supernatural thanks Dan
0:10:18and you know so I television shows yeah
0:10:22yeah she did sound that enthused when
0:10:24she said things
0:10:25uh-huh well it did take whatever and yes
0:10:28seasons to slog through i should point
0:10:31out but the lightning it's a delightful
0:10:34romp it ruined your 2011 to romp through
0:10:38the fields of of undead things I but I
0:10:42mean aside from television shows i mean
0:10:43i saw real genius for the first time I
0:10:45bring yeah I blame the podcast for a lot
0:10:48of it because having book club and
0:10:51having you know our regular television
0:10:53until talking about TV shows and talking
0:10:55about movies and books like that it
0:10:58gives me a reason beyond I need to be
0:11:01more literate and I need to find more
0:11:03things to inhale into my brain
0:11:05I gives me an additional yes I know
0:11:08and inhale and my brain maybe not the
0:11:11best word choice but you know anyway
0:11:13learning new things is fun and in 2011 I
0:11:16did a lot of that who all right
0:11:19was there any new thing in particular
0:11:21that struck your fancy more than the
0:11:23others or is it just all new things are
0:11:26good
0:11:26that's a good question i was really
0:11:29happy to have seen short circuit for the
0:11:31first time because I i adore robots and
0:11:35robot movies and I hadn't seen this one
0:11:37before and books wise I finally sat down
0:11:43and read myself some neal stephenson and
0:11:45I had been putting it off for ages and
0:11:48I'm very very glad that I finally got
0:11:50around to it sort of ice and fire maybe
0:11:52not so much but else even I will count
0:11:54as a win
0:11:55alright that's great I Steve what about
0:11:59you
0:12:00well I 2 i'm going to tout the joys of
0:12:03new things in the same way that that Ren
0:12:06appreciates them which is to say I have
0:12:08a very old thing that I would like to
0:12:10talk about because as you know perhaps
0:12:14you figured out from my discussion of
0:12:16the heavens gate guys earlier how my
0:12:20life is basically a tivo that's running
0:12:21about 10 years back so this year I
0:12:26finally got around to watching a film
0:12:28that people have been recommending to me
0:12:30for the better part of a decade
0:12:32it's a japanese film that's that hails
0:12:35from around 2000 and finally had a spare
0:12:39moment i was sitting there with the DVD
0:12:40and I said let's watch this
0:12:42so I finally put on battle royale nice
0:12:45which no doubt you know I'm sure that
0:12:48most of you have probably absorbed
0:12:49already i have not yet an email back
0:12:52into my brain oh well you
0:12:53yes it's a good it's a good inhale you
0:12:55should really have you have you read the
0:12:56hunger games because this is better
0:12:58right that's another reason why I'm
0:12:59bringing it up is because my wife read
0:13:01The Hunger Games and she was describing
0:13:03the plot to me and I was thinking that
0:13:04sounds an awful lot like the plot battle
0:13:07royale so it's it's topical even though
0:13:11its ancient so yeah basically the film
0:13:14is a is about a a dystopian future where
0:13:18the children have rebelled and have no
0:13:20respect for
0:13:21our elders and it sounds like a stretch
0:13:23but but it happens and apparently the
0:13:27solution to this is the Japanese
0:13:29government each year sequester's a kind
0:13:33of its high school but whatever their
0:13:34final their final year of schooling is
0:13:36in Japan takes one class and they
0:13:39sequester them on a deserted island and
0:13:41they basically tell them you know one of
0:13:43you can survive at the end of three days
0:13:45and they give each of them a random
0:13:48weapon i think one guy has like a pot
0:13:50lid whereas it and somebody else
0:13:53randomly ends up with a chainsaw and the
0:13:55guy has an Uzi sony has a stun gun and
0:13:58basically their dispatch to to dispatch
0:14:00each other and if there's not one person
0:14:03standing if there are multiple people
0:14:05standing on the final day than everybody
0:14:07dies it's never really explained how
0:14:10this is supposed to cause the youth to
0:14:13fall into line since apparently this
0:14:15class was totally unaware of the
0:14:17existence of this this annual event so
0:14:20there are some plot holes at any rate
0:14:23it's a it's a heck of a ride had is it
0:14:26set in Japan or just the Japanese
0:14:28government come to America and take the
0:14:30students at the moment it is in fact
0:14:32said in Japan that's really huh that
0:14:34makes its yeah it's a heck of a ride
0:14:36it's got liberal keepings of Japanese
0:14:40over-the-top sort of cartoonish core
0:14:42although not as bad as some films and
0:14:45I've seen like itchy the killer and a
0:14:47few others and it has some interesting
0:14:50sort of poignant satire in it as well
0:14:52although I'm not sure I understand more
0:14:55than maybe a third of it there are a lot
0:14:57of sort of recurring scenes from from
0:14:59the past of the how the students
0:15:01interacted with each other at school and
0:15:04in some background as to why certain of
0:15:06the students become just utterly
0:15:08psychopathic and and seemed to take joy
0:15:11and trying to kill their fellow students
0:15:12and others can try to band together and
0:15:14in sort of form a society or so it's
0:15:17like lost except everybody kills each
0:15:19other more or less yes they're all
0:15:20they're all teenagers but it's a really
0:15:24good film and and surprisingly moving in
0:15:27places and
0:15:28and I don't get all right and since I
0:15:31didn't actually consume anything from
0:15:332011 in 2011
0:15:35that's my pick for 2011 that is fine but
0:15:38it's a new thing perfectly acceptable
0:15:40pick in New Year's thing Jason may ask
0:15:43what was your was your favorite thing
0:15:44for 2011 why thank you for asking damn i
0:15:47don't want to i'd like to know I way
0:15:49home we're out of time I'm sorry for
0:15:52this next time I guess real genius
0:15:54that's my favorite thing for all eras
0:15:57ever but in if I had to narrow down to
0:16:012011 I I think the thing that I enjoy
0:16:07the most
0:16:09which surprises me when I was coming
0:16:11down a list of stuff I liked is the HBO
0:16:16TV series Game of Thrones which I
0:16:19enjoyed a lot and having read those
0:16:21books i was very impressed at how good
0:16:26job they did in translating it into a TV
0:16:30series that was both faithful to the
0:16:33books and yet not so slavishly faithful
0:16:37that they didn't work as individual TV
0:16:40episodes and as a whatever was 10
0:16:43episode story arc the you know the
0:16:46special effects were effective the
0:16:47acting was good the writing was good it
0:16:50could have been a train wreck and
0:16:52instead i think it was one of the better
0:16:54TV shows of the year and and so I really
0:17:00enjoyed game of thrones in the in the
0:17:03book category i can throw in somebody
0:17:06asked me what my favorite book of the
0:17:07year was I think it's probably among
0:17:09others which I mentioned on the podcast
0:17:11a while back by Joe Walton which I know
0:17:15Scott read it and liked it too
0:17:16I finally just I finally figured out a
0:17:18way to describe what this book is it's a
0:17:19fantasy novel about science fiction and
0:17:24it's and and it's also about a Welsh
0:17:27schoolgirl going to a an English private
0:17:30school and it's it's great and strange
0:17:33and not what you'd expect and i'm sure
0:17:36there are lots of people out there who
0:17:37hated because sort of on one level
0:17:39nothing happens in it and yet it's great
0:17:41and and then if I threw another pick for
0:17:44a young adult that i read that i really
0:17:46liked would be ship breaker by paulo
0:17:49basico loopy who wrote the windup girl
0:17:51which I liked in 2010 and this is an
0:17:55older I think this is for also from 2010
0:17:57but uh as as the young adult novels go
0:18:00it's actually kind of a shame that it
0:18:02isn't more well-known it's a really
0:18:04well-executed fun adventure story that
0:18:08also has its own you know take on
0:18:11environmental consequences and you could
0:18:14have wrecked oil tankers figure in the
0:18:16plot and it was really good too so but
0:18:19if I had to pick one i think i think i'd
0:18:21actually picked game of thrones much to
0:18:23my own surprise now I this is the
0:18:25portion of the program where I'd like to
0:18:26share some listener feedback
0:18:30oh I I didn't I didn't sign up for that
0:18:33are you aware that there are listeners
0:18:34to this podcast and we know my words
0:18:37against tax basat yeah besides you go I
0:18:40gotta go
0:18:42I was that correct me if I'm wrong jason
0:18:45but it is my understanding that there
0:18:47were there were more listeners before a
0:18:50podcast that we entitled Stephen Fry
0:18:52does not appear
0:18:53oh and then after that it that number
0:18:56sort of dropped off sharply we had to
0:18:58rebuild our listenership alligator we
0:19:00have to make it stronger cousin so the
0:19:03Stephen Pryor fri podcast is what
0:19:05happened when we basically got like five
0:19:07members of the incomparable in a room
0:19:08together and close the door and it was a
0:19:11very small room with no air and over the
0:19:14course of an hour we became increasingly
0:19:15loopy and and we discussed about 20 or
0:19:2050 or 90 topics and about an hour and
0:19:24none of it made any sense
0:19:26that did not met never ever left down
0:19:30wow you're like this is like the swerve
0:19:32easiest podcast ever issue what we'd
0:19:34only been drinking would have a much
0:19:35more sense
0:19:36ya know we've already men that are I
0:19:38think something called all the time I've
0:19:40recommended our listeners drink before
0:19:42the same I think you should put a recipe
0:19:44at the outset of this please pour for
0:19:46example martini
0:19:48this is the incomparable after dark that
0:19:51was not Muslim you know locked in a room
0:19:54Stephen Fry no longer live TV show
0:19:56called a bit of fry and laurie at the
0:19:57end of each other with you Lori to be
0:19:59more he has done your house you won t be
0:20:02one of America's finest actors and
0:20:03please sing it's not really anybody been
0:20:06imitating trumpet very convincing yes
0:20:07and they always serve a drink what shall
0:20:10we order for the drink can dissolve i'll
0:20:11have the hat tricks like all you take
0:20:12three pounds of dried ice shavings and
0:20:16arsenic mixing together and Shake and
0:20:18Shake swell mr. music plays and that's
0:20:21what I cannot believe that you brought
0:20:22it around to stephen fry again there
0:20:24that is I Williams processing plant I am
0:20:28amazed by then it's stephen fry did not
0:20:31appear never did Elizabeth great find
0:20:34when we could still breathe
0:20:35yeah I member and not so much after we
0:20:38were all about to die so you're more or
0:20:40less inhaling each other in the
0:20:41operations
0:20:42yeah and you can hear it's all it's
0:20:43there on the tape if you play it back
0:20:44you can you was that the episode where
0:20:47Lex Friedman was joking and jokingly
0:20:49laughing at all of our misfortunes in
0:20:50the background
0:20:51yeah he was our studio audience for that
0:20:53poor bastard he was using up the oxygen
0:20:55we should have kicked him out so well I
0:20:58don't have any listener feedback about
0:20:59the stephen fry episode because really
0:21:01nobody listened to it because it was
0:21:03unlistenable but i do have some
0:21:05interesting i asked on the incomparable
0:21:08twitter account at the incomparable
0:21:10follow that by the way if you aren't
0:21:13already it's full of fans doing it right
0:21:14now
0:21:15what is that no at the incomparable that
0:21:19I asked i asked the listeners on twitter
0:21:23if they have any favorite uncomfortable
0:21:27moments from 2011 and here are some of
0:21:30the responses i got listener
0:21:32chris said John siracusa covertly
0:21:36reconstructing the Firefly Firefly cast
0:21:38from discarded part
0:21:40mr. Adam similarly said easy
0:21:45Syracuse's sneaky lightning but direct
0:21:47pic with accompanying see lawyer and
0:21:50over Han Solo status as a TV character
0:21:52holiday hon or my fifth round pick
0:21:58John Syracuse's selects on solo from the
0:22:01star wars holiday special
0:22:02oh I almost went there
0:22:06judges charges and i quote from the
0:22:10rules that a good time that with any TV
0:22:13show ever
0:22:14true it counts so does that mean life
0:22:18day will feature prominently in your
0:22:19thinking the character of Han Solo he
0:22:23has an established character from the
0:22:24movies yes but he appeared on television
0:22:26in that which is any TV show ever in the
0:22:29history of TV the exact words from the
0:22:32email i'll allow it i'll allow it but it
0:22:35but there's there's got to be a
0:22:37holiday-themed he always has to remark
0:22:40about wiki holiday is I like that rule
0:22:45is that where you're at santa hat for
0:22:47the whole thing it does not in Star Wars
0:22:49and if he shoots first he uses a candy
0:22:52cane it's 500 years in the future
0:22:55mankind has slipped the surly bonds of
0:22:57Earth is spread across the galaxy thanks
0:22:59to a repulsion breakthrough that
0:23:00harnesses the powerful electrostatic
0:23:02discharges founded the atmospheres of
0:23:03gas giant planets yes that'll make sense
0:23:05a planetary government controls most of
0:23:08the civilized plants but on the more
0:23:10outer rim planets let's say government
0:23:12authorities less potent on solo is the
0:23:14captain of a starship and a smuggler
0:23:16surprise river song is the
0:23:18second-in-command a tough competently he
0:23:19knows their way around a gun an old war
0:23:21buddy of Hans its pilot and trusted
0:23:24friend Hank Stallworth a ruffled
0:23:26good-natured fellow will also happens to
0:23:27be riversong husband jay-z Steiners
0:23:29ships mechanic she's young and innocent
0:23:31but with a hydrospanner James Ford is a
0:23:34hired gun he's great in a fight but the
0:23:36others on the crew not are not sure that
0:23:37he can be trusted your own higher Harris
0:23:39is a high-class corazon tagging along
0:23:41and hardship for transport and
0:23:43protections her presence lends an air of
0:23:45legitimacy to another wise ragtag crew
0:23:47but there's definitely some sexual
0:23:48tension between jones scruffy-looking on
0:23:50into the life of this crew falls Jack
0:23:52Shephard a doctor
0:23:53one of the civilized planet mr. myko
0:23:55from the government but would explain
0:23:58why Tywin Lannister's the government
0:24:01officer in charge of apprehending Jaco
0:24:03and he has no trouble going through some
0:24:04anti-government rebels come to get what
0:24:06he wants
0:24:06finally at the far reaches of the known
0:24:08plants like the nomadic tribes known as
0:24:09the Horde by Khal Drogo Oh even
0:24:12government ships hear them together on
0:24:14his crew flip from planet to planet in
0:24:16the tiny spaceship making a dishonest
0:24:17living as smugglers what they avoid any
0:24:19Imperial entanglements and steer clear
0:24:20of the hoard all still trying to be the
0:24:22good guys in the movie of their lives
0:24:24there on ship crushes the trails heist
0:24:26of the week episodes and remote planets
0:24:28and overall story are concerning the
0:24:29mysterious backstory of jackin echo the
0:24:32show's title is the name of hardship the
0:24:34lightning bug well and we grow now
0:24:40really it's gonna make a million dollars
0:24:42well I never heard of anything like this
0:24:43before I have a feeling that this show
0:24:45will be canceled after 13 episodes only
0:24:4810 of which will air not not in the
0:24:50correct i'm not even in correct order
0:24:52wow so I have nothing to say to that I
0:24:55executed the plan not very creative but
0:24:57it's kind of like like a pet cemetery
0:24:59when the dad really wants a little boy
0:25:02to come back to life so he uses dark
0:25:04magic antenna and reanimates the corpse
0:25:08that's what I've done here I'm still
0:25:11upset about that
0:25:13that's ok that's ok move on there was no
0:25:15life day mentioned at all in the
0:25:17lightning bug pitch as i recall it's
0:25:20shameful wrong
0:25:22so listen Laurie liked the cancelled TV
0:25:28show draft but she says the TV character
0:25:31draft made her laugh from beginning to
0:25:32end so i guess my favorite moment steve
0:25:35was the drafting of Skeletor yes mr.
0:25:39Janus said I laughed so much of the
0:25:41character draft that my sister thought i
0:25:42was nuts
0:25:43well there's a good chance you're
0:25:46welcome mr. Chad road in simply saying
0:25:49Skeletor i must needs to be sick
0:25:55well i'm gonna go with one that's a
0:25:57that's close to my heart for various
0:25:59reasons and I know somebody's just
0:26:01raring to pick him so I better grab him
0:26:03now i'm going to pick a pic Skeletor
0:26:05from the last of the universe seems yeah
0:26:09i do not think you should be on the show
0:26:13with Tom servo well the beauty of
0:26:14Skeletor is that he can die every
0:26:16weekend yet miraculously reappear from
0:26:18under the pile of rocks that he was
0:26:20buried under in subsequent hooks so if
0:26:23Anthony tries to send Skeletor the
0:26:25cornfield what happens is back to the
0:26:27next week
0:26:28that's the intention of the show's
0:26:30spoilers no spoilers alright okay so
0:26:32you're you're pretty girly it's crucial
0:26:34to my plot which which I look forward to
0:26:37making up on the candle
0:26:40yeah that's appropriate it its Skeletor
0:26:47is the alpha and the omega of our
0:26:49podcast he won that draft by killing
0:26:52everyone else so scary
0:26:56in addition to the TV drafts wear it in
0:27:01which mr. Lutz had the best pic and one
0:27:04the pitch session after all of that you
0:27:07were also steve the master of trash talk
0:27:10i believe i believe telling me to eat it
0:27:13in the classic dual image which actually
0:27:20I think we may have been John Syracuse's
0:27:22favorite moment of people
0:27:23well you know every village needs its
0:27:26idiot
0:27:27so I've been happy to provide that role
0:27:30you got me Steve nice the bed liners in
0:27:34the cornfield with Anthony now eat it
0:27:36smells all right I'm gonna trash-talk
0:27:38alright it's getting good
0:27:39normally I would reserve that for the
0:27:40chat window well played it again Snell
0:27:43oh man so you will each I mean it when I
0:27:47say it's now
0:27:49yes no that's that's Steve's line i
0:27:52recommend it it's it's highly
0:27:54questionable say it
0:27:55that's right mr. mark rhodium that it's
0:27:59a tie between the TV draft and pitch
0:28:01please do that again he says huh
0:28:04okay i think people will have a license
0:28:06revoked if we if we do that again thank
0:28:08you i will be draft and the i think i
0:28:11think we should do a favorite movie drop
0:28:12that would be good and the empire
0:28:14strikes back to partner he also liked
0:28:16listen risk mr. chris l wrote in and
0:28:19said both the two-part draft pick and
0:28:22pitch and the two-part star wars were
0:28:24golden
0:28:24so people like the star wars episodes
0:28:28Adam wrote in and said he thought the
0:28:30Empire Strikes Back episode was
0:28:31incomparable haha there that doesn't
0:28:34mean good Jason let's just be clear
0:28:36yes it's well it's not necessarily
0:28:38conveying a value judgment of any kind
0:28:40listener Brandon wrote in and said
0:28:42empire strikes back all the way listener
0:28:45David wrote in and said to come to mind
0:28:48episode 59 1 episode is 59 I don't
0:28:52actually read the tip and the tail end
0:28:54of the TV draft and the Empire Strikes
0:28:56Back series especially the after dark
0:28:59the where we were we talked about the
0:29:01empire strikes back for an extra 20
0:29:02minutes after having board everybody to
0:29:04death already and this says about about
0:29:09things notice how they're not saying the
0:29:10star wars two-parter they're saying the
0:29:12Empire to know someone said the star
0:29:14wars 2 part that I think I think they
0:29:15mean the Empire to partner Dan let's
0:29:17just face it the empire strikes back
0:29:19it's just a vote in the sweet spot me a
0:29:21favor just if I might recall where you
0:29:23were you on the Star Wars two-parter I
0:29:25was not
0:29:26oh yeah so you know what is a no one
0:29:28could possibly say that is what youre so
0:29:30the reason the star wars episode i think
0:29:31it's so touching is because you know we
0:29:34we learned so many things in the star
0:29:37wars episode we learned that start
0:29:39seeing Star Wars can change your life
0:29:40and we also learned about the coffee
0:29:43drinking habit
0:29:44darth vader that is true my my life
0:29:49exists in into separate dimensions one
0:29:51pre star wars and one post Star Wars it
0:29:54was the transformative experience I I
0:29:57was nine years old when Star Wars was
0:29:59released and I saw at nine times during
0:30:03its initial theatrical run i was just
0:30:05totally blown away by everything in it
0:30:08was it was perfect in every way and i
0:30:09still believe that and I will argue it
0:30:11with anybody who wants to that it is it
0:30:14remains perfect despite its flaws
0:30:16it is the Socratic ideal of what a
0:30:19science-fiction movie should be so what
0:30:21you're saying is even its flaws are part
0:30:23of its reaction that exactly it would it
0:30:26it is perfect because of its flaws
0:30:28that's for old people like me and Greg
0:30:30that's um that's such a strange idea the
0:30:33idea that star wars was always there
0:30:35I have to think that it would be a
0:30:37little disappointing having it always
0:30:39around because you didn't get to
0:30:40discover it didn't like up here you know
0:30:44dawn i might argue that that as as as
0:30:48your idea Greg that star wars a Socratic
0:30:51ideal in some ways up hasn't it always
0:30:53been there
0:30:53we just didn't know it's been inside of
0:30:55us it was inside the block of marble it
0:30:58was a long time ago in a galaxy far far
0:31:00away you don't use the word faith there
0:31:02to find his lack of faith disturbing
0:31:04I want you need to have faith i'm
0:31:05choking you dude you don't have to
0:31:07believe believe that I believe it may go
0:31:12Greg can you explain
0:31:14can you explain the darth vader coffee
0:31:15thing by the way for those who don't
0:31:16know because this is one of my favorite
0:31:18things about the original star wars in
0:31:20the comic version there's the conference
0:31:22room scene where they're discussing how
0:31:24the plans got away and who's to blame
0:31:26and your ancient religion blah blah blah
0:31:29and it just as as the people are talking
0:31:32around the table Vader floats over a
0:31:35Styrofoam cup of coffee and a little yes
0:31:41how does he drink it
0:31:42yes I don't know using the force and
0:31:46then United States he's holding it for
0:31:48the rest of the scene including on shoka
0:31:49together
0:31:50need to do all the only thing that would
0:31:52have been awesome about that is it well
0:31:54to give you guys something of a copy
0:31:55then throws it in his face installed
0:31:57that would be hilarious you should have
0:32:00been quietly sipping through his helmet
0:32:01while choking the guy that's the dark
0:32:03side band confidence for chokers Vader
0:32:07doesn't put the cream in his coffee by
0:32:09the way he likes it black takes that
0:32:10black just like you like I like my
0:32:12coffee like my like my evil select
0:32:14myself Lords I really should have been
0:32:19on the real genius episode back job man
0:32:21yeah I know I I made it I made a
0:32:23horrible mistake with that episode it
0:32:27was I booked the wrong guests I I needed
0:32:29more people on my side
0:32:30it happens i went for diversity instead
0:32:33of a monoculture that would agree with
0:32:34me like that lesson
0:32:37yeah it's very strange to me that so
0:32:40there's so much love for the TV draft
0:32:41episodes when we were all convinced that
0:32:43that was going to be the second coming
0:32:44of the stephen fry said I after we
0:32:47posted the TV draft episode I really
0:32:49they were evenings when I would look out
0:32:51my window just to make sure that the
0:32:53torches and pitchforks poured out there
0:32:54you know if I had it all to do over
0:32:57again I think I would do it differently
0:33:00are those was that serious wow maybe a
0:33:06little little little muslim are you
0:33:08expecting us to create a flashback were
0:33:10either a song that's about to start that
0:33:12goes with that
0:33:13well I drafted a bunch of vampire
0:33:16detective and I have no I have no more
0:33:21than that sign but even greater problems
0:33:24don't seem dry so so more comments about
0:33:27Star Wars listener Ryan said Star Wars
0:33:29of course now John siracusa must turn
0:33:32his lecture like I on episodes one
0:33:34through three and he specifies the
0:33:37analytical Hannibal Lecter not the
0:33:39murderer apartment kind of like I i did
0:33:42you get to choose which part of him and
0:33:44passage deal i can guess which part
0:33:47John would choose to inflict on the
0:33:48prequels too and it's not the analytical
0:33:50part it's the murder part i see but
0:33:53here's the thing if you would just be
0:33:54two hours of Dijon saying I don't know
0:33:57what movie you're talking about
0:33:58it's true that movie existed really is
0:34:01his power of self-delusion is great
0:34:04you know considering the impact that
0:34:06ripples had on Star Wars fans i would
0:34:08say that those two were life-changing
0:34:10films troops in a different in a
0:34:13different sort of way in a vastly
0:34:15different sort of way if I could do it
0:34:17all over again I think I would do it
0:34:19differently
0:34:20mr. Matt throat and said that a episode
0:34:2467 68 where the best of the year where
0:34:26siracusa got down on Empire Strikes Back
0:34:28my favorite moment from this episode yes
0:34:31I am bleeding into a clip here is when
0:34:34John Syracuse's summed up Han Solo's
0:34:37character in just a few seconds the
0:34:41character is established to immediately
0:34:43fired his weapon upon seeing the enemy
0:34:45the only reason he didn't immediately
0:34:46shoot gritos gonna get the jump on them
0:34:48and had the gun grunting him first and
0:34:50he had to talk while he got his general
0:34:51Han shoots first for crying out loud he
0:34:53doesn't he doesn't even like Chewie
0:34:55growls at least on just immediately
0:34:58fires and draws his fast again doesn't
0:34:59fire once you just aim shoot kill kill
0:35:01kill
0:35:02that's hot that's hot solo in that scene
0:35:04he is a mayor and of action on solo and
0:35:06shoots first people John kill cancerous
0:35:13he's succinct yeah yeah but general
0:35:16member Hannibal Lecter saying something
0:35:18very similar in yeah it's somewhat more
0:35:21eloquent my generally in the Empire
0:35:25podcast there were some serious nerdery
0:35:27going on between Dan and John no I find
0:35:30that uh yeah I was nerded out I thought
0:35:33I knew a lot but it's a bit of romance
0:35:36I just have a curiosity everything from
0:35:39your guy's perspective how many days do
0:35:41you think he's there
0:35:42not that long maybe like oh we're trying
0:35:44to calculate based on like how long they
0:35:46spent running away from the the fuckin
0:35:49Spencer anyway
0:35:49yeah you don't know how long it took
0:35:51them to fly without warp speed 22 miles
0:35:54to Cloud City exactly i mean it seems
0:35:56like not more than a few days though
0:35:58right they make it seem like it's not
0:36:00long but I better be like a week yeah
0:36:02they spend a week running away from the
0:36:03empire but they were they spend a week
0:36:05fly they couldn't they couldn't go to
0:36:06light speed and takes awhile to get
0:36:08around you also don't know how long they
0:36:10were sitting on the back of the Star
0:36:12Destroyer until they get dumped off for
0:36:13track because you see them there and
0:36:15it's all dark and you're like you know
0:36:17what's our next move that could hang out
0:36:18there for a while I i don't know i
0:36:20always seems to me like three or four
0:36:22days and like man that's a that's a very
0:36:23short time to cram in your Jedi training
0:36:25it does seem faster in the movie like
0:36:27this look what exactly how much Jedi
0:36:29training to look actually get but I
0:36:30think even if you think it's only been a
0:36:32few days
0:36:32it shows he looks like someone who's had
0:36:34like a three day course on you know
0:36:36professional driving and now he's not
0:36:38camp Jedi boot camp right and and has
0:36:40not absorbed it's like if you took a
0:36:42three-day professional driving course
0:36:43such as our weekend really well yeah
0:36:45he's a Jedi weekend warrior yah-yah-yah
0:36:50dress venue and I had to basically stand
0:36:52on the sidelines while while damage on
0:36:54just listed all the things they loved
0:36:56about the empire strikes back
0:36:57yeah we we get our mouths open and then
0:37:00John when ordered and will put it more
0:37:01succinctly and then and then we go back
0:37:03to our caves and be like yeah i really
0:37:05love that movie to be there we really
0:37:08love that movie
0:37:09like a lot yeah I give it was legal in
0:37:11my state to marry that movie
0:37:12yeah i think it is it matches
0:37:15Massachusetts were very liberal true
0:37:17then you and John would have to fight
0:37:19over who married that movie
0:37:21oh I'm sure it's a slippery slope it's
0:37:22great just maybe both married in three
0:37:25two people in the movie are all married
0:37:26together and it's it is madness dr. now
0:37:29it's a sitcom sitcom there's yeah
0:37:32there's the start of values conquers all
0:37:36so mr. Clinton wrote in and said he
0:37:41liked the star wars podcast but he also
0:37:43specifically like to single out the
0:37:45doctor who episodes and our review of
0:37:48feed you see some people love it when we
0:37:53are critical Scott well that's good
0:37:55because that book is crap
0:37:58let's relive just how bad that book is
0:38:02feed by mira Grant who read fee i did
0:38:05mean for child and neither of us like to
0:38:07feed is is a novel about bloggers yes
0:38:12who are essentially news reporters of
0:38:16the future and this is set in the near
0:38:18future as well where technology is a
0:38:20little more advanced also there's been a
0:38:22zombie apocalypse and everybody who dies
0:38:24becomes a zombie and if you get bitten
0:38:27if by a zombie you die and then your
0:38:31zombie and an interesting i think that
0:38:33her world building was interesting so
0:38:34you can also since the the whatever the
0:38:38the zombie particle or whatever you
0:38:40wanna call it is been around it has not
0:38:42a virus yet the virus that's probably
0:38:44better is it so it's in everyone and it
0:38:47can just spontaneously activate so you
0:38:50don't have to be bitten by a zombie you
0:38:52could just spontaneously turn into a
0:38:54zombie and animals also turned into
0:38:57zombies over 40 pounds or something so
0:39:00right there's like there's a law that
0:39:01you can't have a pet that's over 40
0:39:03pounds because it could spontaneously
0:39:04turn into like a zombie my Marmaduke but
0:39:08think how Bad's on be like mosquitoes
0:39:10would be slung be one rat that's why you
0:39:12can't do that yet so but zombie horses
0:39:14yes this was really not very good know
0:39:17it was you mean it would have had
0:39:19bringing an endorsement
0:39:21I cannot believe I actually i look at
0:39:24this and think how did this get
0:39:26nominated for hugo award
0:39:27I don't understand a world where this
0:39:30book and the Dervish house can be
0:39:32considered in the same group
0:39:35it's just the gap is so why don't
0:39:37understand it
0:39:38so Dan and Glenn what what can I tell
0:39:40you you gotta reach yeah I'm gonna take
0:39:42an article
0:39:43oh I'm gonna go right out i'm so glad
0:39:45that I didn't just like go on mute for
0:39:46this then come back and guys like a
0:39:48totally repeat happy
0:39:50sucker and the best part is it's the
0:39:53first book in a trilogy so
0:39:55oh of course after i love it i love
0:39:58however scott i had hate to break it to
0:40:00you
0:40:01some people also hate it when we are
0:40:03critical listener ash road in and said
0:40:06the most infuriating episode was when
0:40:08you ravage the best book of the year
0:40:10ready player one I have a special i have
0:40:14a message
0:40:16I i assume listener ashes illiterate
0:40:18because then that book is also crap that
0:40:25as much crap as feed i will give him at
0:40:26still crap i read the that doesn't I'm
0:40:30sample and I felt illiterate after
0:40:31finishing just an efficient i think
0:40:34that's an episode like the real genius
0:40:35episode i think that's an episode with a
0:40:37host Letta let the guests get away from
0:40:40get wet get away from him now I think
0:40:43that hosted an excellent job I i would
0:40:45say he was one of the best host of the
0:40:47year everything about this book is is
0:40:50basically a trope right like the plot
0:40:53the characters and the amaj and I guess
0:40:56you know it seems like it's one of those
0:40:59situations that should be a perfect
0:41:02storm of things that people like and yet
0:41:04it doesn't quite seem to succeed just
0:41:07immune it doesn't have that one thing
0:41:08that people like which is a story is a
0:41:11story that keeps them guessing and I
0:41:13mean like with fine pandered to whatever
0:41:15but you want to you want to be kept like
0:41:18I'm i was going to the story but it was
0:41:20just you just saw where was going in
0:41:22there isn't much surprised that's why
0:41:24the pacman steam so it out so much
0:41:26because there was so little in this
0:41:27thing that you knew I'd like in a movie
0:41:29that you know anything they show you
0:41:31it's like a wall that's going to be
0:41:32significant is probably gonna save them
0:41:33in the end that because no one else is
0:41:35doing it like there wasn't enough stuff
0:41:37for it because it like a good mystery
0:41:38even a short little mystery novel that
0:41:40mean enough stuff going on that you can
0:41:42immediately pick out haha when that guy
0:41:44came into the room put that thing down
0:41:45that was important because so much other
0:41:46stuff happens in the story and you
0:41:48wrapped up in the people in this thing
0:41:49it was just everything was just poking
0:41:51up out of the the ground really tall
0:41:53appears this tower which is this plot
0:41:55point this tower which is this plot
0:41:56point and it wasn't any meat on the
0:41:58bones you know that it's a new overclock
0:42:00processor that's so fast its cycle time
0:42:03board on
0:42:04precognition first of all overclocking
0:42:05that was like so two decades ago and
0:42:07cycle time board its recognition make no
0:42:10sense but like I asked my mother to
0:42:12write a sentence about how fast the cpu
0:42:13I'm glad we didn't get any comments from
0:42:17people who said I'll i really like the
0:42:19episodes where people who are Jason
0:42:21hosted at least in getting episodes
0:42:23where they're like I really hated the
0:42:25people who subbed in for Jason cuz that
0:42:27make me said I liked the episode where
0:42:29Glenn breathe a lot thank you enough
0:42:32so let them roll the clip you know so
0:42:35critical i mean we are we are sometimes
0:42:36critical and some people hate that and
0:42:40some people like it we don't try to tear
0:42:42everything down every week i mean i
0:42:44think that reaction of the star wars
0:42:45episode shows that people also enjoy it
0:42:48when we talk about things we love and so
0:42:51it's it's hard to strike a balance I had
0:42:53somebody on Twitter the other day said
0:42:54that we were all a bunch of a bunch of
0:42:58pedis and infrared yeah that's that's
0:43:01John job but the rest of us are are are
0:43:04are much more kind of you know we love
0:43:06things we hate things and that's okay i
0:43:07think criticism is good is good to share
0:43:10and sometimes we hate things and talk
0:43:12about why we hate them but that's not
0:43:14all we also love things we hate the dark
0:43:16night though nobody likes the dark
0:43:20ok we destroyed that that's ahead movie
0:43:22held in high regard high regard but what
0:43:25we did we toured that into little tiny
0:43:26pieces i think i think i missed out on
0:43:28that 1i might have defended who ya
0:43:31always something that was the superhero
0:43:33movie episode where you I was i believe
0:43:35i was absent a little i would i would
0:43:38argue that were united air
0:43:39let's check the tape oh let's go to the
0:43:42videotape
0:43:44overrated is the dark knight not because
0:43:47it's such a terrible movie because it
0:43:49isn't terrible is a superhero movie that
0:43:52tries to have everything in it you know
0:43:54great acting dramatic fight scenes and
0:43:57amazing villain and every possible
0:43:59scenario you can imagine for the villain
0:44:01to go in a you know a love story the
0:44:04loss of a main character revenge and it
0:44:06just it just ends up being too much the
0:44:08dark knight is a great great movie for
0:44:09about sixty percent and then it just
0:44:11doesn't end it keeps going keeps trying
0:44:13to have more and it it goes off the
0:44:16rails at the end I don't wanna I don't
0:44:18want to draw a parallel between the dark
0:44:21knight and batman returns the second of
0:44:25the tim burton Batman's which is a far
0:44:28Batman Returns far inferior to the dark
0:44:30knight i would say the dark knight is a
0:44:31good movie it's just horribly overrated
0:44:34but they are similar in that both of
0:44:37them the first movie was successful had
0:44:39a lot of constraints that I think may
0:44:41have made them successful and then they
0:44:43took all the constraints off and and the
0:44:45with batman returns it was really like
0:44:48okay well we made Tim Burton act like a
0:44:50grown-up he made a good movie now will
0:44:52let him do whatever the hell he wants
0:44:53oh god he made he's made something
0:44:55atrocious
0:44:57not to mention the fact that that why is
0:44:59it that superhero movie franchises feel
0:45:01that once a movie is successful the best
0:45:03way to do a sequel is by multiplying the
0:45:06number of villains in it by a factor of
0:45:08three
0:45:08Oh God well the doctor i didn't have
0:45:11that problem with the multiple villain
0:45:12well I could have Harvey today's any of
0:45:15this stuff comes at the end which is in
0:45:17my mind the worst part of that movie is
0:45:19with because that I know where are you
0:45:21always try is trying to lead into the
0:45:22next movie with my biggest complaints
0:45:24are they like the fairy scene and the
0:45:26sort of little brother moralizing those
0:45:28two bits didn't need to be in that movie
0:45:31a fairy stone i think is terrible and
0:45:33that's actually happening simultaneous
0:45:35with another scene that is bad which is
0:45:38Batman gets equipped morgan freeman
0:45:42equips Batman with his his bat radar
0:45:45right his ballot all right he goes into
0:45:47a tall building and he's trying to fight
0:45:49bad guys in this tall building and it's
0:45:51one of the most incompetent we put
0:45:52together action scenes I've ever seen in
0:45:54a major movie you at no point do you
0:45:56really understand what
0:45:57going on you're completely lose track it
0:46:01sort of transformers level of confusion
0:46:03and it's a shame because again if
0:46:06somebody come in and said no no this is
0:46:08too much you've got a great movie here
0:46:09if we chop off most of the last 30
0:46:11minutes or 45 minutes it would be a much
0:46:14better movie than it is
0:46:15yeah because it starts really strong and
0:46:17it's focused and strong and dramatic and
0:46:19I think the worst decision was that they
0:46:20tried to make the big dramatic thing
0:46:24that happens in the final act is bad
0:46:27one of the things is there's not a
0:46:29problem is 10 different things that
0:46:30happen the final actress Batman
0:46:31rejecting the idea of spying on the
0:46:34citizenry you know I'll do it this once
0:46:37but you have to burn the computers down
0:46:38when you're done you know and his and
0:46:40his faithful helper almost you know
0:46:42threatens to quit because of this great
0:46:43decision like no one cares about this
0:46:45this is not of Batman's world
0:46:47I don't care about Batman spies on his
0:46:49to fight the bad guys i was on a later
0:46:52superhero movie episode
0:46:54yeah you were talking about this we're
0:46:56talking about this year's superhero
0:46:58movies i was on that one when I was not
0:46:59on the one where we talked about
0:47:00superhero movies in general right in the
0:47:02dark knight which we didn't like even
0:47:04though my design
0:47:05I liked it I liked it speaking of being
0:47:08critical now would probably be a good
0:47:10time to interject my personal favorite
0:47:12podcast moment of this year
0:47:14oh yes which is John siracusa in the TV
0:47:17draft picking Jack Shephard and he's so
0:47:21proud of himself for getting to the
0:47:22third round and and still having Jack
0:47:24Shephard on the board and immediately he
0:47:27gets slammed relentlessly by every
0:47:28single other person on the on the
0:47:30podcast for picking such a drab dull
0:47:32character and literally everybody has
0:47:35their say I think 11 a time everybody
0:47:37leans it and what is nothing to say at
0:47:39the end of him because he's been so
0:47:42abused
0:47:44I'm happy to have made into the third
0:47:46round for this pic Jack Shephard from
0:47:48lost the lead of one of the best shows
0:47:51in recent years at least interesting
0:47:53there are you sure he wants that well
0:47:55maybe I have a plan for him everything
0:47:57that everybody has a plan for Jack's
0:47:59gonna cry a lot
0:48:00boredom is that you're playing i hope i
0:48:02hope you're not counting on your show
0:48:04involving him asking perceptive
0:48:05questions i think i think he looks I
0:48:09think you look sad a lot and he stares
0:48:11in the middle distance a lot so you know
0:48:13what would be a good episode of your
0:48:14show but let's find out how Jack got his
0:48:16tattoos I hear that would be really
0:48:19interesting
0:48:20he knew he just needed a doctor for his
0:48:22little Firefly show right of course it
0:48:24turned out to be you know part of the
0:48:25plan but still it was it's it's so funny
0:48:28because he's pleased just even John
0:48:30siracusa needs needs a little needs to
0:48:32be taken down a peg every once in awhile
0:48:34it siracusa yeah listen Scott who is not
0:48:41scott McNulty crazy or he would become
0:48:45invited said that he enjoyed episode 33
0:48:48win Syracuse's skewered real genius
0:48:50oh good times and I episode 23 when
0:48:54serenity Caldwell picked Mystery Men as
0:48:57her superhero movie that she enjoyed I
0:49:00believe who Diana and skeletor yeah
0:49:04there you go just yet and Scotts request
0:49:06is more drafts and more old movies so
0:49:09vote for old things
0:49:11whoo yeah you can do that much for that
0:49:14are you things that are also old no old
0:49:17things
0:49:18nice um I just big 40 you things have a
0:49:23lot of canceled shows strapped to which
0:49:25wich a which was our lesson same of our
0:49:28tube perhaps that we did but there was
0:49:32some good stuff and my favorite moment
0:49:33of that episode is where we all forgot
0:49:35to pick firefly except Scott who hates
0:49:38firefly but the rest is just for God
0:49:40didn't win forget didn't we make an
0:49:42explicit agreement upfront that was
0:49:44afterwards that I was named can we make
0:49:47it explicit agreement at the word yes it
0:49:49was red card I i think if you if you
0:49:51listen carefully to a clip that i might
0:49:53play in a second you might notice that
0:49:55there is a slight edit their where
0:49:58we actually went through the first round
0:49:59realize nobody picked firefly I need
0:50:02that it would be the first pic and then
0:50:04moved that section ahead to make it seem
0:50:06as if we planned the whole sexy
0:50:09oh it's likely they changed the Darren's
0:50:12secrets are revealed
0:50:14oh here so i guess it's my choice but
0:50:18before I make my my selection did
0:50:21everybody just assumed that everybody
0:50:22else is going to pick Firefly is that
0:50:24what happened
0:50:25I mean what should I just bought us
0:50:26should we just site Firefly and spot it
0:50:29as saying like number one is firefly but
0:50:32and none of us are going to pick it
0:50:33because really I could pick it here but
0:50:35I've got such a long list and I think it
0:50:37kind of goes without saying that
0:50:38everybody knows that Joss Whedon's sci
0:50:41fi Western e thing firefly got cancelled
0:50:43way too soon and was really quite good
0:50:46and it died young and left a beautiful
0:50:48corpse
0:50:48but you know please somebody wants to
0:50:50wants to pick it we can do that but
0:50:51otherwise i'm willing to just put it up
0:50:53on the word was it was taking anybody's
0:50:55was it not on anybody's list
0:50:57oh it's on my list but of course I just
0:50:58assumed also take it so I didn't you
0:51:00know I think we should take it as read
0:51:02and move on yes we've talked about it
0:51:03all the time and other episodes it was
0:51:0520 f pic of the dream it was not on my
0:51:09list because i do not like it but I'm I
0:51:12you always gonna be Scott and yeah
0:51:14anybody
0:51:16yeah I assumed everybody else but Scott
0:51:18would pick it will see they're all right
0:51:20so I I you get firefly i will like a
0:51:23firefly on the board
0:51:27thank God we have an editor wait this
0:51:29podcast is ended only slightly I our
0:51:34army doctor who / podcasts know these
0:51:38are completely unedited yes i have to
0:51:40say and it shows
0:51:41ya mean but originally just usually we
0:51:44come up with greatness i particularly
0:51:46liked our let's quilt Hitler episode if
0:51:49only for the nonsense that it happens at
0:51:52the very end when we go into things like
0:51:53quilting Hitler and finding ways to make
0:51:57nazis funny a new plot i just decided
0:52:00that i'm going to write a book called
0:52:01what's quilt Hitler oh look
0:52:04uh-huh okay I know what Scott is my
0:52:08daughter should people behind the
0:52:11spaceship that's also a man come up with
0:52:14a new plan called let's build Hitler i
0:52:18like the idea of selling a book called
0:52:19but schools filter for me to like now we
0:52:21can suss out all the Nazis that's
0:52:24expandable that's the way my name is
0:52:26some overlap Nazi quilters who doesn't
0:52:30want to smuggle with Hitler tonight but
0:52:33they're all these while you're over 40
0:52:35so i can have blackmail material
0:52:36I'm i know i am still recording our girl
0:52:40yeah yeah we discovered one of the
0:52:44things about Scott in the podcast and a
0:52:48lot about ourselves so i also have have
0:52:53have some more reader feedback here
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0:53:28holiday movies but you missed my
0:53:30favorite remember the night with Barbara
0:53:32Stanwyck and Fred MacMurray are you have
0:53:36not seen that 1i have no idea what he's
0:53:37talking about
0:53:38now I've never heard of it do you think
0:53:39that stephen fry
0:53:41it's possible you know it's a bad sign
0:53:43when the title is remember the night and
0:53:45nobody does nobody remembers remember
0:53:47that night the day you'll always
0:53:50remember question from mr. David volada
0:53:53who says i'm new to the show and enjoy
0:53:55it tons
0:53:56thank you used in in your recent book
0:53:59club episode you joked about this being
0:54:02a book club
0:54:02it's not it's not a joke okay maybe it
0:54:05is a book club
0:54:06he says I'm new so I apologize if this
0:54:10is common knowledge but is there such a
0:54:11thing where I can learn of a book to be
0:54:13discussed in the future read it on my
0:54:14own and then listening as its discussed
0:54:16and the answer is if we get our act
0:54:18together in the previous book club we
0:54:21will mention it if we don't get our act
0:54:23together we will try to mention it on
0:54:24the previously mentioned the
0:54:26incomparable Twitter account so follow
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0:54:30try to let you know what books we are
0:54:32planning on reading for future editions
0:54:34of the book club and FYI you can always
0:54:37not listen to episode read the book and
0:54:40then listen to it such is the glory of
0:54:42the podcast that is a great thing about
0:54:44this medium if you guys pick a book
0:54:46that's ten years old I might read it
0:54:48maybe you already read it
0:54:50chew on that Steve a pal of grey Moss
0:54:54described only as a pal of greatness
0:54:56wrote in to say tell your incomparable
0:54:58buddies i have declared jihad on
0:55:00siracusa he who despises real genius
0:55:03despises life people people feel very
0:55:07strongly like John Syracuse's what I'm
0:55:09learning from this
0:55:10yes yes he does that uh listener
0:55:14Christopher wrote in to suggest a topic
0:55:17for an upcoming show before Christmas
0:55:20oh well let's get on that haha sorry
0:55:23this 2012 but but he wants to hear us
0:55:26discuss cult christmas movies so maybe
0:55:27we'll see that Barbara Stanwyck movie
0:55:29could be a stressed-out 2s9 you all
0:55:33remember the night before this time next
0:55:34year but he mentioned you mentioned
0:55:36diehard a christmas story The Nightmare
0:55:38Before Christmas elf home alone all of
0:55:41which we mentioned in our christmas
0:55:42movie podcast so I thought it was as
0:55:45yesterday at least partially satisfy as
0:55:46if we listen to Christopher even though
0:55:48we didn't read his letter until much
0:55:50later he's an avid listener of 2011
0:55:53and I wanted to read my favorite itunes
0:55:56review of the podcast please go to
0:55:58iTunes and give us a positive review
0:55:59because you can count Iraq this review
0:56:02left on october tense the subject
0:56:05ugh OH was unless my Kathy five people
0:56:12talking over top of each other laughing
0:56:14at their own poor quote jokes
0:56:16close quote and then repeating them
0:56:18again because no one else laughed no
0:56:20insight no interesting points of view
0:56:23no entertainment value unless you have
0:56:24no friends to sit around a table and
0:56:26chat with listen to be uncomfortable is
0:56:28like listening to five different podcast
0:56:30being played at once
0:56:32that's an idea a stain on the otherwise
0:56:35mostly excellent five-by-five network i
0:56:38like that i like the qualifier mostly
0:56:40closely
0:56:41I'd like to apologize again for the
0:56:43stephen fry episode i'm clearly we're so
0:56:47I i think this gentleman might be an m16
0:56:50friday so Stephen Fry I've been playing
0:56:52a lot of Wolfenstein 3d lately a
0:56:54twenty-year-old game
0:56:55oh and I bought it you name nine out of
0:56:59ten models when they're shot die by
0:57:01saying ugh
0:57:03oh good point so it's you're saying he's
0:57:05a pixelated not see it in the in his
0:57:07death throes as he's taken a review
0:57:0930 mr. sure he listened to a second
0:57:12episode that wasn't Stephen Fry it
0:57:15probably it was probably this one and
0:57:16this one is subsequently he drafted he
0:57:18wrote that i remember seeing that one
0:57:19yeah so not everybody loved it
0:57:22not everybody loved the TV draft that's
0:57:25ok that's ok you can love us you can
0:57:27hate it's exactly you're allowed to be
0:57:28critical of us we week so good we can
0:57:31add ago we can be praised phul you
0:57:33should be critical in principle to
0:57:34exactly what you're gonna be critical
0:57:36keep it to yourself don't want to hear
0:57:40it cries your position
0:57:42whenever i'm criticizing if your
0:57:44critical at least be at least be
0:57:46inventive and innovative don't criticize
0:57:48thought you were gonna say at least be
0:57:49critical of jobs siracusa for that or
0:57:52that God knows I dude he's Syracuse is
0:57:55too big to be on this episode tonight by
0:57:56the way it's nice to be so this proxies
0:57:59and his eye his agent is agent would let
0:58:02up here
0:58:03he doesn't do clip shows sadly strictly
0:58:07regulated yeah ever since Eric's gonna
0:58:09work without the star wars holiday
0:58:11season we couldn't afford him couldn't
0:58:14afford John cerquita up so I've
0:58:16exhausted all of our reader interaction
0:58:18for for 2011 there that was able to
0:58:21thank goodness
0:58:22can I ask can I throw out my favorite
0:58:24moment moment from about yes please God
0:58:27I right you know I was racking my brains
0:58:28that it popped into my head because I
0:58:30just I love this moment I don't remember
0:58:32exactly where you put it and i think it
0:58:33may be at the beginning of one of one of
0:58:35the Empire episodes which is everybody's
0:58:37impression of a imperial probe droid
0:58:39oh yes that's at the beginning of one of
0:58:40the Empire episodes and the other the
0:58:42other one ends with yes largely you
0:58:44doing your series of sound effects from
0:58:47you can learn story star wars soundboard
0:58:49very real problem guard and imap matter
0:58:53and a proper environment
0:58:55ok and I'll try it remember where ya
0:58:59riverbrook super oh how forgot but maybe
0:59:09it's a little crass two favorite my own
0:59:11appearance and about getting you know
0:59:13what no one else did
0:59:14so no I thought it was that that was a
0:59:15funny moment with John mentioned the
0:59:17imperial probe droid have been all four
0:59:19of us begin doing our impressions all of
0:59:20which are extremely different which is
0:59:22also strange its yes but all of them
0:59:26good in their own way
0:59:27oh i think i will like to give a
0:59:28shout-out as the kids say maybe sure
0:59:31this will say that to glen relations
0:59:33Jack Donaghy impersonation so glad i
0:59:39love and II we love we love Glenn Glenn
0:59:42Glenn could do a one-man show
0:59:45I think he did so so Glenn would do his
0:59:49Jack Donnie impression and I believe he
0:59:52mispronounces Jack Donaghey we could
0:59:56have them do some heavy breathing that's
0:59:58right and and then
0:59:58right and and then
1:00:00you could have him to host an episode
1:00:02about they might be giants and
1:00:03repeatedly delivered of the demand as
1:00:06they may be Giants they must be Giants
1:00:08there could be done I don't know go and
1:00:11don't forget of course is also excellent
1:00:12impression of Jimmy Stewart the holiday
1:00:15movies episode but of course one of
1:00:18these days to the moon
1:00:19stop your yapping we have a shipment of
1:00:2110 million blackberry playbook stew
1:00:23process for the unobtanium that the
1:00:25Canadians actually baked into the cpu
1:00:27Canadians to the moon
1:00:31Sulu's probables a man of one voice
1:00:36stroked out Jimmy's but many
1:00:39Impressionists but we love God and a bag
1:00:43claim my favorite thing about about the
1:00:46Glen contributed to the podcast this
1:00:47year is that he came up with the idea
1:00:50for the TV draft man wasn't in it as
1:00:53well and then refused to to play with
1:00:56the team that we in fact drafted for yes
1:00:58yes he's he's told me several times that
1:01:01this is phase one of his multi-phase
1:01:03plan to destroy the podcast
1:01:05well I thought phase one with Stephen
1:01:06fra that was more like phase zero well
1:01:10so you know it was a it was a good year
1:01:12we started this podcast in 2010 but we
1:01:15did a whole lot of episodes in 2011 and
1:01:18it was all it was a lot of fun i'm
1:01:20looking forward to what crazy things
1:01:22will do when in 2012 like this show
1:01:25yeah nothing's gonna stop Skeletor
1:01:26though hmm i don't that maybe Skeletor
1:01:30nobody can defeat skills or he's in the
1:01:33Hall of Fame now
1:01:34well so happy New Year to everybody out
1:01:36there and here's to a good 2012 and I
1:01:39you know I want to thank not only the
1:01:41people who are here on this episode but
1:01:43all the contributors to the
1:01:45uncomfortable in the past year it's been
1:01:47a lot of fun so i would like to thank
1:01:49most particularly the people who showed
1:01:51up for the clip show so thank you Scott
1:01:53McNulty thank you Jason
1:01:56Thank You serenity Caldwell well I thank
1:01:59you Jason Snell thank you Dan Morgan I i
1:02:04guess thanks are in order even lots
1:02:08Prospero annually felicidad snow bank
1:02:13and shank stew over all the listeners
1:02:16even those who didn't write in or leave
1:02:18one star itunes reviews
1:02:21thank you most of all ugh we'll be back
1:02:23with regular episodes next week
1:02:25another good good
1:02:44there you go that's an episode right
1:02:47there episode number 73 argh
1:02:53you know I did relate Skeletor sorry I
1:02:56have a school-related most when i was a
1:02:58kid i loved i love t man is good and my
1:03:00cousins used to babysit for me and my
1:03:03cousin Jennie who I think was in her
1:03:05teens late teens early twenties but
1:03:06recently used to change to breed me a
1:03:09heat minute he-man story and should we
1:03:11change it to and then Skeletor killed he
1:03:14mayhem and I would sit there going no
1:03:16that's impossible
1:03:18I thought you were about to say she used
1:03:20to change you into a loincloth and a
1:03:21purple and blue that's a different
1:03:25molecule let's let's do it now and it's
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