The Incomparable

73: Ugh - A 2011 Clip Show


  the incomparable contest number 7 evilly [TS]

  january twenty well we are back on the [TS]

  uncomfortable podcast and this is a [TS]

  strange episode this is going to serve [TS]

  as our look back on 2011 basically [TS]

  meaning we don't have to do a new [TS]

  episode this week instead were but but [TS]

  here we are so it is a new episode and [TS]

  if you haven't heard the episodes before [TS]

  their new to you is joining me today on [TS]

  this magical mystery tour our Scott [TS]

  McNulty hi Scott thank you for being [TS]

  here I've always wanted to be on the [TS]

  clip show and now you are dude my bad [TS]

  news commander Riker has been bitten by [TS]

  something down on a planet as an and now [TS]

  is in sickbay reliving the first season [TS]

  of star trek the next generation it's [TS]

  terrible i hate when he get bitten by [TS]

  the clip monster or what is collector [TS]

  and also that other Voice you heard is [TS]

  Steve lots [TS]

  hi Steve hey Jason happy last year we [TS]

  have to hear about the stupid Mayans [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  hey that's right behind the last year [TS]

  ever [TS]

  but when we didn't hear the Miami we [TS]

  have to hear about the Mayan at the [TS]

  entry here the Mayans all will climb on [TS]

  to it like a boat and push off a ghost [TS]

  just disappear into the sea [TS]

  I believe they're boarding a comet [TS]

  wearing their Nikes excellent and purple [TS]

  munchos that's right that's good [TS]

  sassy yeah ah this is so the topic of [TS]

  our podcast is the heavens gate doomsday [TS]

  colors because he's gonna say these [TS]

  jokes are ripped-from-the-headlines [TS]

  we've got ahold lemon grove california [TS]

  hello you're on the air I honestly can't [TS]

  remember anything that happened in 2011 [TS]

  so I'm rolling it way back [TS]

  that's the last year i have any [TS]

  recollection of also joining me are [TS]

  serenity Caldwell [TS]

  hello hello Jason and Dan Morin I'm on [TS]

  this podcast you are I am [TS]

  hello I'm glad so so we have we have [TS]

  four people here with me to have the [TS]

  podcast episode that has no topic other [TS]

  than 2011 [TS]

  yes we're talking about time and we'll [TS]

  also relive some exciting moments [TS]

  because this is the incomparable clip [TS]

  show exciting moments from the past but [TS]

  before we do that I wanted to ask our [TS]

  esteemed panel if they would like to [TS]

  share a favorite thing from 2011 [TS]

  something you discovered or enjoyed in [TS]

  2011 just a single it out and give it a [TS]

  little last people love before we move [TS]

  into the hate and violence and horror [TS]

  and torment that is 2012 [TS]

  Scott what about you something you like [TS]

  from 2011 I should wear I 2011 will go [TS]

  down in history [TS]

  well it's got history which is a very [TS]

  and focus the register yes it's true [TS]

  it's a has limited appeal but it's big [TS]

  in Germany as the year but I discovered [TS]

  in mcdonald who is the author of the [TS]

  different shall be tracked was my [TS]

  favorite novel of 2011 [TS]

  I believe you mentioned that on a [TS]

  previous podcast i did but i thought i'd [TS]

  mention it again since i have this [TS]

  opportunity [TS]

  no no Scott you're on a clip show [TS]

  I believe you mentioned it on a previous [TS]

  podcast I i remember incident like it [TS]

  with you [TS]

  his settings are non-western which makes [TS]

  it very interesting to me because it's [TS]

  an alien culture and yet it's you know [TS]

  still humans so in the Dervish houses [TS]

  case it we get it set and in Turkey [TS]

  yep in the near future and like what 20 [TS]

  40 20 30 something like that yeah it's [TS]

  great because i have no idea i don't [TS]

  know the cultural enough to know what is [TS]

  actually current behavior I mean know [TS]

  the technology of course but I don't [TS]

  know what's current behavior and what's [TS]

  supposed it feels it feels very genuine [TS]

  so even if it's wrong and feels right [TS]

  but I'm but make it into the [TS]

  displacement and a travel log kind of [TS]

  feel to it was like this is cool i'm [TS]

  learning things that may or may not be [TS]

  true but I'm i feel like i'm learning [TS]

  things about Turkey and about attitude [TS]

  of the Turks toured europe and then [TS]

  there's the whole sci-fi element on top [TS]

  of him and the the story of the the [TS]

  mellah fide man I don't know that which [TS]

  is which is like again i don't know if [TS]

  it's true or not but it's the the heats [TS]

  honey until he dies and then they put [TS]

  him in a stone casket full of honey and [TS]

  they stored away in the ground and he [TS]

  turns it's like his body turns into [TS]

  honey and then it's supposed to like [TS]

  have magical healing properties of [TS]

  course i love that [TS]

  word i was just like Mel ified you read [TS]

  that you're just like well I want to [TS]

  know what that is but I love the Jewish [TS]

  now didn't you didn't you read the [TS]

  Dervish house because you read another [TS]

  book of his because you thought it was [TS]

  required for the Dervish house which it [TS]

  wasn't right i did i read the river of [TS]

  God's which is a much longer book also [TS]

  very good and for some reason i thought [TS]

  the dermis house was a sequel to the [TS]

  river of gods and it turns out they're [TS]

  completely unrelated not even a little [TS]

  have you read other a mcdonald this I i [TS]

  did he actually he wrote a young adult [TS]

  book which is came out last month maybe [TS]

  december I'm was last month december i [TS]

  don't know our planes runner which was [TS]

  you know find it was so the thing I like [TS]

  about in mcdonald is that he has in his [TS]

  adult books I suppose several plots that [TS]

  seemingly are unrelated and then they [TS]

  come together and you go oh my god this [TS]

  is a beautiful tapestry of wonderful [TS]

  writing for his young adult thing he [TS]

  decided I kids are stupid so let's have [TS]

  one plots and lots of action and so it I [TS]

  mean he's though it's it's the will [TS]

  well written but it's not as complex or [TS]

  as a doesn't have the depth of his other [TS]

  works laughing seems like it just put [TS]

  kids are stupid on the first page left [TS]

  the rest blank true we summed up [TS]

  existence at that point so so dan do you [TS]

  have a favorite thing from 2011 [TS]

  yeah a something that I didn't get to [TS]

  manage mention a podcast unfortunately I [TS]

  I want to kind of a clip show caster you [TS]

  I i mentioned it on a future point this [TS]

  is the new content but it's new to you [TS]

  yes Shh you mentioned it in the future [TS]

  clip I did I did [TS]

  can we can we roll that clip yet what's [TS]

  wrong now I was gonna say a video game I [TS]

  played I played much video games here [TS]

  the one that I that I found myself [TS]

  returning to thinking about the most is [TS]

  a game called deus ex human revolution [TS]

  which is a a flawed game in many ways [TS]

  but also a really fascinating game just [TS]

  in terms of the world that it exposes [TS]

  you to and this is a sort of a cyberpunk [TS]

  near future game where a lot of people [TS]

  have these human the cybernetic [TS]

  augmentation [TS]

  and there's a guy i try to figure out [TS]

  what I like so much about this game and [TS]

  i finally watched a video online from a [TS]

  I can't remember where it was but it was [TS]

  hosted a penny arcade's one of the [TS]

  videos they sort of do for their [TS]

  rotating TV series where some people are [TS]

  talking about why they thought it was [TS]

  like the best game of the year and they [TS]

  kept seizing upon well as you know they [TS]

  were frustrating parts in the game and [TS]

  they had these weird boss battles that [TS]

  didn't make they were totally throwbacks [TS]

  but in and of itself it provides it was [TS]

  such a case [TS]

  syntactically perfect exploration of [TS]

  this world and it's so the atmosphere [TS]

  and the ambience of it were so so [TS]

  pervasive and so consistent that it was [TS]

  really immersive and i just i found [TS]

  myself caught up in this entire world [TS]

  just wanted to walk around and explore [TS]

  things and not even always following the [TS]

  plot that was given me but also I think [TS]

  I really appreciated the fact that it [TS]

  took this idea of sort of branching [TS]

  choices and morality in a direction that [TS]

  was was much more subtle a lot of games [TS]

  that they're trying to implement this [TS]

  now and I think this is something going [TS]

  forward this can be really important [TS]

  video games is idea like you want to be [TS]

  a good guide you wanna be a bad guy but [TS]

  they didn't make it into this like do [TS]

  you want to save all these people or do [TS]

  you want to kill all these people it [TS]

  wasn't a heavy-handed choice there was a [TS]

  there's a point very early in the game [TS]

  where you have to get into a police [TS]

  department and you're a former cop and [TS]

  so you stopping you you talking to the [TS]

  guy at the desk was the guy you served [TS]

  with and depending on how you approach [TS]

  it [TS]

  there are a number of ways to accomplish [TS]

  that objective and I chose to do it by [TS]

  serving really sympathetic but this guy [TS]

  who's been sort of fallen from grace and [TS]

  you know had this terrible experience [TS]

  and is oh my i played the character very [TS]

  sympathetic and the guy was modified and [TS]

  eventually let me and my friend Jason [TS]

  Tasi who is also appeared on this [TS]

  podcast took the entire opposite tack he [TS]

  browbeat the guy into letting him in and [TS]

  in a normal game you know me you might [TS]

  think that's that's sort of interesting [TS]

  you can approach those two ways but it [TS]

  struck me later in the game as you're [TS]

  exiting your apartment I hadn't it's a [TS]

  second encounter with the guy works at [TS]

  all you know i decided to leave police [TS]

  department i was i just wasn't feeling [TS]

  it didn't feel like I felt that you know [TS]

  fit in there anymore and I said hello [TS]

  let me get you a job i put in your name [TS]

  or something so that'd be great [TS]

  Jason least his apartment and the guy [TS]

  tries to kill it is like you ruined my [TS]

  life and tries to shoot when I was like [TS]

  we and so neither of us knew about this [TS]

  until we discuss was like wow that [TS]

  that's fascinating these little like [TS]

  things you set in motion and then later [TS]

  on they have these huge you know little [TS]

  implications or whatever and and it was [TS]

  just it was a great game i really [TS]

  enjoyed playing it and despite its flaws [TS]

  i just found it was one of my favorite [TS]

  things this year [TS]

  alright that's great uh miss Caldwell do [TS]

  you have a favorite thing my favorite [TS]

  thing is is is broad and specific at the [TS]

  same time which is just new things in [TS]

  general I mean no this isn't yeah new [TS]

  things are great this was taking a [TS]

  letter here that last year's new things [TS]

  we're good that 2010 things suck though [TS]

  there yeah i was awarded more than old [TS]

  things here now but I mean to elaborate [TS]

  a little bit more on that in 2007 I did [TS]

  this thing where i basically i looked at [TS]

  what i was reading and I looked at what [TS]

  i was watching and and basically said [TS]

  you know alright i have i have a certain [TS]

  amount of literature that I wanted my [TS]

  belt but here it is here some books that [TS]

  i really want to read and hear some [TS]

  movies that i really want to watch and I [TS]

  just lock myself up in a room for a [TS]

  while in 2007 and did all that and 2011 [TS]

  was a another similar year where I went [TS]

  through a lot of content that I'd never [TS]

  seen before I went through a bunch of TV [TS]

  shows that I had been told repeatedly to [TS]

  watch like Veronica Mars and party down [TS]

  and buffy and supernatural thanks Dan [TS]

  and you know so I television shows yeah [TS]

  yeah she did sound that enthused when [TS]

  she said things [TS]

  uh-huh well it did take whatever and yes [TS]

  seasons to slog through i should point [TS]

  out but the lightning it's a delightful [TS]

  romp it ruined your 2011 to romp through [TS]

  the fields of of undead things I but I [TS]

  mean aside from television shows i mean [TS]

  i saw real genius for the first time I [TS]

  bring yeah I blame the podcast for a lot [TS]

  of it because having book club and [TS]

  having you know our regular television [TS]

  until talking about TV shows and talking [TS]

  about movies and books like that it [TS]

  gives me a reason beyond I need to be [TS]

  more literate and I need to find more [TS]

  things to inhale into my brain [TS]

  I gives me an additional yes I know [TS]

  and inhale and my brain maybe not the [TS]

  best word choice but you know anyway [TS]

  learning new things is fun and in 2011 I [TS]

  did a lot of that who all right [TS]

  was there any new thing in particular [TS]

  that struck your fancy more than the [TS]

  others or is it just all new things are [TS]

  good [TS]

  that's a good question i was really [TS]

  happy to have seen short circuit for the [TS]

  first time because I i adore robots and [TS]

  robot movies and I hadn't seen this one [TS]

  before and books wise I finally sat down [TS]

  and read myself some neal stephenson and [TS]

  I had been putting it off for ages and [TS]

  I'm very very glad that I finally got [TS]

  around to it sort of ice and fire maybe [TS]

  not so much but else even I will count [TS]

  as a win [TS]

  alright that's great I Steve what about [TS]

  you [TS]

  well I 2 i'm going to tout the joys of [TS]

  new things in the same way that that Ren [TS]

  appreciates them which is to say I have [TS]

  a very old thing that I would like to [TS]

  talk about because as you know perhaps [TS]

  you figured out from my discussion of [TS]

  the heavens gate guys earlier how my [TS]

  life is basically a tivo that's running [TS]

  about 10 years back so this year I [TS]

  finally got around to watching a film [TS]

  that people have been recommending to me [TS]

  for the better part of a decade [TS]

  it's a japanese film that's that hails [TS]

  from around 2000 and finally had a spare [TS]

  moment i was sitting there with the DVD [TS]

  and I said let's watch this [TS]

  so I finally put on battle royale nice [TS]

  which no doubt you know I'm sure that [TS]

  most of you have probably absorbed [TS]

  already i have not yet an email back [TS]

  into my brain oh well you [TS]

  yes it's a good it's a good inhale you [TS]

  should really have you have you read the [TS]

  hunger games because this is better [TS]

  right that's another reason why I'm [TS]

  bringing it up is because my wife read [TS]

  The Hunger Games and she was describing [TS]

  the plot to me and I was thinking that [TS]

  sounds an awful lot like the plot battle [TS]

  royale so it's it's topical even though [TS]

  its ancient so yeah basically the film [TS]

  is a is about a a dystopian future where [TS]

  the children have rebelled and have no [TS]

  respect for [TS]

  our elders and it sounds like a stretch [TS]

  but but it happens and apparently the [TS]

  solution to this is the Japanese [TS]

  government each year sequester's a kind [TS]

  of its high school but whatever their [TS]

  final their final year of schooling is [TS]

  in Japan takes one class and they [TS]

  sequester them on a deserted island and [TS]

  they basically tell them you know one of [TS]

  you can survive at the end of three days [TS]

  and they give each of them a random [TS]

  weapon i think one guy has like a pot [TS]

  lid whereas it and somebody else [TS]

  randomly ends up with a chainsaw and the [TS]

  guy has an Uzi sony has a stun gun and [TS]

  basically their dispatch to to dispatch [TS]

  each other and if there's not one person [TS]

  standing if there are multiple people [TS]

  standing on the final day than everybody [TS]

  dies it's never really explained how [TS]

  this is supposed to cause the youth to [TS]

  fall into line since apparently this [TS]

  class was totally unaware of the [TS]

  existence of this this annual event so [TS]

  there are some plot holes at any rate [TS]

  it's a it's a heck of a ride had is it [TS]

  set in Japan or just the Japanese [TS]

  government come to America and take the [TS]

  students at the moment it is in fact [TS]

  said in Japan that's really huh that [TS]

  makes its yeah it's a heck of a ride [TS]

  it's got liberal keepings of Japanese [TS]

  over-the-top sort of cartoonish core [TS]

  although not as bad as some films and [TS]

  I've seen like itchy the killer and a [TS]

  few others and it has some interesting [TS]

  sort of poignant satire in it as well [TS]

  although I'm not sure I understand more [TS]

  than maybe a third of it there are a lot [TS]

  of sort of recurring scenes from from [TS]

  the past of the how the students [TS]

  interacted with each other at school and [TS]

  in some background as to why certain of [TS]

  the students become just utterly [TS]

  psychopathic and and seemed to take joy [TS]

  and trying to kill their fellow students [TS]

  and others can try to band together and [TS]

  in sort of form a society or so it's [TS]

  like lost except everybody kills each [TS]

  other more or less yes they're all [TS]

  they're all teenagers but it's a really [TS]

  good film and and surprisingly moving in [TS]

  places and [TS]

  and I don't get all right and since I [TS]

  didn't actually consume anything from [TS]

  2011 in 2011 [TS]

  that's my pick for 2011 that is fine but [TS]

  it's a new thing perfectly acceptable [TS]

  pick in New Year's thing Jason may ask [TS]

  what was your was your favorite thing [TS]

  for 2011 why thank you for asking damn i [TS]

  don't want to i'd like to know I way [TS]

  home we're out of time I'm sorry for [TS]

  this next time I guess real genius [TS]

  that's my favorite thing for all eras [TS]

  ever but in if I had to narrow down to [TS]

  2011 I I think the thing that I enjoy [TS]

  the most [TS]

  which surprises me when I was coming [TS]

  down a list of stuff I liked is the HBO [TS]

  TV series Game of Thrones which I [TS]

  enjoyed a lot and having read those [TS]

  books i was very impressed at how good [TS]

  job they did in translating it into a TV [TS]

  series that was both faithful to the [TS]

  books and yet not so slavishly faithful [TS]

  that they didn't work as individual TV [TS]

  episodes and as a whatever was 10 [TS]

  episode story arc the you know the [TS]

  special effects were effective the [TS]

  acting was good the writing was good it [TS]

  could have been a train wreck and [TS]

  instead i think it was one of the better [TS]

  TV shows of the year and and so I really [TS]

  enjoyed game of thrones in the in the [TS]

  book category i can throw in somebody [TS]

  asked me what my favorite book of the [TS]

  year was I think it's probably among [TS]

  others which I mentioned on the podcast [TS]

  a while back by Joe Walton which I know [TS]

  Scott read it and liked it too [TS]

  I finally just I finally figured out a [TS]

  way to describe what this book is it's a [TS]

  fantasy novel about science fiction and [TS]

  it's and and it's also about a Welsh [TS]

  schoolgirl going to a an English private [TS]

  school and it's it's great and strange [TS]

  and not what you'd expect and i'm sure [TS]

  there are lots of people out there who [TS]

  hated because sort of on one level [TS]

  nothing happens in it and yet it's great [TS]

  and and then if I threw another pick for [TS]

  a young adult that i read that i really [TS]

  liked would be ship breaker by paulo [TS]

  basico loopy who wrote the windup girl [TS]

  which I liked in 2010 and this is an [TS]

  older I think this is for also from 2010 [TS]

  but uh as as the young adult novels go [TS]

  it's actually kind of a shame that it [TS]

  isn't more well-known it's a really [TS]

  well-executed fun adventure story that [TS]

  also has its own you know take on [TS]

  environmental consequences and you could [TS]

  have wrecked oil tankers figure in the [TS]

  plot and it was really good too so but [TS]

  if I had to pick one i think i think i'd [TS]

  actually picked game of thrones much to [TS]

  my own surprise now I this is the [TS]

  portion of the program where I'd like to [TS]

  share some listener feedback [TS]

  oh I I didn't I didn't sign up for that [TS]

  are you aware that there are listeners [TS]

  to this podcast and we know my words [TS]

  against tax basat yeah besides you go I [TS]

  gotta go [TS]

  I was that correct me if I'm wrong jason [TS]

  but it is my understanding that there [TS]

  were there were more listeners before a [TS]

  podcast that we entitled Stephen Fry [TS]

  does not appear [TS]

  oh and then after that it that number [TS]

  sort of dropped off sharply we had to [TS]

  rebuild our listenership alligator we [TS]

  have to make it stronger cousin so the [TS]

  Stephen Pryor fri podcast is what [TS]

  happened when we basically got like five [TS]

  members of the incomparable in a room [TS]

  together and close the door and it was a [TS]

  very small room with no air and over the [TS]

  course of an hour we became increasingly [TS]

  loopy and and we discussed about 20 or [TS]

  50 or 90 topics and about an hour and [TS]

  none of it made any sense [TS]

  that did not met never ever left down [TS]

  wow you're like this is like the swerve [TS]

  easiest podcast ever issue what we'd [TS]

  only been drinking would have a much [TS]

  more sense [TS]

  ya know we've already men that are I [TS]

  think something called all the time I've [TS]

  recommended our listeners drink before [TS]

  the same I think you should put a recipe [TS]

  at the outset of this please pour for [TS]

  example martini [TS]

  this is the incomparable after dark that [TS]

  was not Muslim you know locked in a room [TS]

  Stephen Fry no longer live TV show [TS]

  called a bit of fry and laurie at the [TS]

  end of each other with you Lori to be [TS]

  more he has done your house you won t be [TS]

  one of America's finest actors and [TS]

  please sing it's not really anybody been [TS]

  imitating trumpet very convincing yes [TS]

  and they always serve a drink what shall [TS]

  we order for the drink can dissolve i'll [TS]

  have the hat tricks like all you take [TS]

  three pounds of dried ice shavings and [TS]

  arsenic mixing together and Shake and [TS]

  Shake swell mr. music plays and that's [TS]

  what I cannot believe that you brought [TS]

  it around to stephen fry again there [TS]

  that is I Williams processing plant I am [TS]

  amazed by then it's stephen fry did not [TS]

  appear never did Elizabeth great find [TS]

  when we could still breathe [TS]

  yeah I member and not so much after we [TS]

  were all about to die so you're more or [TS]

  less inhaling each other in the [TS]

  operations [TS]

  yeah and you can hear it's all it's [TS]

  there on the tape if you play it back [TS]

  you can you was that the episode where [TS]

  Lex Friedman was joking and jokingly [TS]

  laughing at all of our misfortunes in [TS]

  the background [TS]

  yeah he was our studio audience for that [TS]

  poor bastard he was using up the oxygen [TS]

  we should have kicked him out so well I [TS]

  don't have any listener feedback about [TS]

  the stephen fry episode because really [TS]

  nobody listened to it because it was [TS]

  unlistenable but i do have some [TS]

  interesting i asked on the incomparable [TS]

  twitter account at the incomparable [TS]

  follow that by the way if you aren't [TS]

  already it's full of fans doing it right [TS]

  now [TS]

  what is that no at the incomparable that [TS]

  I asked i asked the listeners on twitter [TS]

  if they have any favorite uncomfortable [TS]

  moments from 2011 and here are some of [TS]

  the responses i got listener [TS]

  chris said John siracusa covertly [TS]

  reconstructing the Firefly Firefly cast [TS]

  from discarded part [TS]

  mr. Adam similarly said easy [TS]

  Syracuse's sneaky lightning but direct [TS]

  pic with accompanying see lawyer and [TS]

  over Han Solo status as a TV character [TS]

  holiday hon or my fifth round pick [TS]

  John Syracuse's selects on solo from the [TS]

  star wars holiday special [TS]

  oh I almost went there [TS]

  judges charges and i quote from the [TS]

  rules that a good time that with any TV [TS]

  show ever [TS]

  true it counts so does that mean life [TS]

  day will feature prominently in your [TS]

  thinking the character of Han Solo he [TS]

  has an established character from the [TS]

  movies yes but he appeared on television [TS]

  in that which is any TV show ever in the [TS]

  history of TV the exact words from the [TS]

  email i'll allow it i'll allow it but it [TS]

  but there's there's got to be a [TS]

  holiday-themed he always has to remark [TS]

  about wiki holiday is I like that rule [TS]

  is that where you're at santa hat for [TS]

  the whole thing it does not in Star Wars [TS]

  and if he shoots first he uses a candy [TS]

  cane it's 500 years in the future [TS]

  mankind has slipped the surly bonds of [TS]

  Earth is spread across the galaxy thanks [TS]

  to a repulsion breakthrough that [TS]

  harnesses the powerful electrostatic [TS]

  discharges founded the atmospheres of [TS]

  gas giant planets yes that'll make sense [TS]

  a planetary government controls most of [TS]

  the civilized plants but on the more [TS]

  outer rim planets let's say government [TS]

  authorities less potent on solo is the [TS]

  captain of a starship and a smuggler [TS]

  surprise river song is the [TS]

  second-in-command a tough competently he [TS]

  knows their way around a gun an old war [TS]

  buddy of Hans its pilot and trusted [TS]

  friend Hank Stallworth a ruffled [TS]

  good-natured fellow will also happens to [TS]

  be riversong husband jay-z Steiners [TS]

  ships mechanic she's young and innocent [TS]

  but with a hydrospanner James Ford is a [TS]

  hired gun he's great in a fight but the [TS]

  others on the crew not are not sure that [TS]

  he can be trusted your own higher Harris [TS]

  is a high-class corazon tagging along [TS]

  and hardship for transport and [TS]

  protections her presence lends an air of [TS]

  legitimacy to another wise ragtag crew [TS]

  but there's definitely some sexual [TS]

  tension between jones scruffy-looking on [TS]

  into the life of this crew falls Jack [TS]

  Shephard a doctor [TS]

  one of the civilized planet mr. myko [TS]

  from the government but would explain [TS]

  why Tywin Lannister's the government [TS]

  officer in charge of apprehending Jaco [TS]

  and he has no trouble going through some [TS]

  anti-government rebels come to get what [TS]

  he wants [TS]

  finally at the far reaches of the known [TS]

  plants like the nomadic tribes known as [TS]

  the Horde by Khal Drogo Oh even [TS]

  government ships hear them together on [TS]

  his crew flip from planet to planet in [TS]

  the tiny spaceship making a dishonest [TS]

  living as smugglers what they avoid any [TS]

  Imperial entanglements and steer clear [TS]

  of the hoard all still trying to be the [TS]

  good guys in the movie of their lives [TS]

  there on ship crushes the trails heist [TS]

  of the week episodes and remote planets [TS]

  and overall story are concerning the [TS]

  mysterious backstory of jackin echo the [TS]

  show's title is the name of hardship the [TS]

  lightning bug well and we grow now [TS]

  really it's gonna make a million dollars [TS]

  well I never heard of anything like this [TS]

  before I have a feeling that this show [TS]

  will be canceled after 13 episodes only [TS]

  10 of which will air not not in the [TS]

  correct i'm not even in correct order [TS]

  wow so I have nothing to say to that I [TS]

  executed the plan not very creative but [TS]

  it's kind of like like a pet cemetery [TS]

  when the dad really wants a little boy [TS]

  to come back to life so he uses dark [TS]

  magic antenna and reanimates the corpse [TS]

  that's what I've done here I'm still [TS]

  upset about that [TS]

  that's ok that's ok move on there was no [TS]

  life day mentioned at all in the [TS]

  lightning bug pitch as i recall it's [TS]

  shameful wrong [TS]

  so listen Laurie liked the cancelled TV [TS]

  show draft but she says the TV character [TS]

  draft made her laugh from beginning to [TS]

  end so i guess my favorite moment steve [TS]

  was the drafting of Skeletor yes mr. [TS]

  Janus said I laughed so much of the [TS]

  character draft that my sister thought i [TS]

  was nuts [TS]

  well there's a good chance you're [TS]

  welcome mr. Chad road in simply saying [TS]

  Skeletor i must needs to be sick [TS]

  well i'm gonna go with one that's a [TS]

  that's close to my heart for various [TS]

  reasons and I know somebody's just [TS]

  raring to pick him so I better grab him [TS]

  now i'm going to pick a pic Skeletor [TS]

  from the last of the universe seems yeah [TS]

  i do not think you should be on the show [TS]

  with Tom servo well the beauty of [TS]

  Skeletor is that he can die every [TS]

  weekend yet miraculously reappear from [TS]

  under the pile of rocks that he was [TS]

  buried under in subsequent hooks so if [TS]

  Anthony tries to send Skeletor the [TS]

  cornfield what happens is back to the [TS]

  next week [TS]

  that's the intention of the show's [TS]

  spoilers no spoilers alright okay so [TS]

  you're you're pretty girly it's crucial [TS]

  to my plot which which I look forward to [TS]

  making up on the candle [TS]

  yeah that's appropriate it its Skeletor [TS]

  is the alpha and the omega of our [TS]

  podcast he won that draft by killing [TS]

  everyone else so scary [TS]

  in addition to the TV drafts wear it in [TS]

  which mr. Lutz had the best pic and one [TS]

  the pitch session after all of that you [TS]

  were also steve the master of trash talk [TS]

  i believe i believe telling me to eat it [TS]

  in the classic dual image which actually [TS]

  I think we may have been John Syracuse's [TS]

  favorite moment of people [TS]

  well you know every village needs its [TS]

  idiot [TS]

  so I've been happy to provide that role [TS]

  you got me Steve nice the bed liners in [TS]

  the cornfield with Anthony now eat it [TS]

  smells all right I'm gonna trash-talk [TS]

  alright it's getting good [TS]

  normally I would reserve that for the [TS]

  chat window well played it again Snell [TS]

  oh man so you will each I mean it when I [TS]

  say it's now [TS]

  yes no that's that's Steve's line i [TS]

  recommend it it's it's highly [TS]

  questionable say it [TS]

  that's right mr. mark rhodium that it's [TS]

  a tie between the TV draft and pitch [TS]

  please do that again he says huh [TS]

  okay i think people will have a license [TS]

  revoked if we if we do that again thank [TS]

  you i will be draft and the i think i [TS]

  think we should do a favorite movie drop [TS]

  that would be good and the empire [TS]

  strikes back to partner he also liked [TS]

  listen risk mr. chris l wrote in and [TS]

  said both the two-part draft pick and [TS]

  pitch and the two-part star wars were [TS]

  golden [TS]

  so people like the star wars episodes [TS]

  Adam wrote in and said he thought the [TS]

  Empire Strikes Back episode was [TS]

  incomparable haha there that doesn't [TS]

  mean good Jason let's just be clear [TS]

  yes it's well it's not necessarily [TS]

  conveying a value judgment of any kind [TS]

  listener Brandon wrote in and said [TS]

  empire strikes back all the way listener [TS]

  David wrote in and said to come to mind [TS]

  episode 59 1 episode is 59 I don't [TS]

  actually read the tip and the tail end [TS]

  of the TV draft and the Empire Strikes [TS]

  Back series especially the after dark [TS]

  the where we were we talked about the [TS]

  empire strikes back for an extra 20 [TS]

  minutes after having board everybody to [TS]

  death already and this says about about [TS]

  things notice how they're not saying the [TS]

  star wars two-parter they're saying the [TS]

  Empire to know someone said the star [TS]

  wars 2 part that I think I think they [TS]

  mean the Empire to partner Dan let's [TS]

  just face it the empire strikes back [TS]

  it's just a vote in the sweet spot me a [TS]

  favor just if I might recall where you [TS]

  were you on the Star Wars two-parter I [TS]

  was not [TS]

  oh yeah so you know what is a no one [TS]

  could possibly say that is what youre so [TS]

  the reason the star wars episode i think [TS]

  it's so touching is because you know we [TS]

  we learned so many things in the star [TS]

  wars episode we learned that start [TS]

  seeing Star Wars can change your life [TS]

  and we also learned about the coffee [TS]

  drinking habit [TS]

  darth vader that is true my my life [TS]

  exists in into separate dimensions one [TS]

  pre star wars and one post Star Wars it [TS]

  was the transformative experience I I [TS]

  was nine years old when Star Wars was [TS]

  released and I saw at nine times during [TS]

  its initial theatrical run i was just [TS]

  totally blown away by everything in it [TS]

  was it was perfect in every way and i [TS]

  still believe that and I will argue it [TS]

  with anybody who wants to that it is it [TS]

  remains perfect despite its flaws [TS]

  it is the Socratic ideal of what a [TS]

  science-fiction movie should be so what [TS]

  you're saying is even its flaws are part [TS]

  of its reaction that exactly it would it [TS]

  it is perfect because of its flaws [TS]

  that's for old people like me and Greg [TS]

  that's um that's such a strange idea the [TS]

  idea that star wars was always there [TS]

  I have to think that it would be a [TS]

  little disappointing having it always [TS]

  around because you didn't get to [TS]

  discover it didn't like up here you know [TS]

  dawn i might argue that that as as as [TS]

  your idea Greg that star wars a Socratic [TS]

  ideal in some ways up hasn't it always [TS]

  been there [TS]

  we just didn't know it's been inside of [TS]

  us it was inside the block of marble it [TS]

  was a long time ago in a galaxy far far [TS]

  away you don't use the word faith there [TS]

  to find his lack of faith disturbing [TS]

  I want you need to have faith i'm [TS]

  choking you dude you don't have to [TS]

  believe believe that I believe it may go [TS]

  Greg can you explain [TS]

  can you explain the darth vader coffee [TS]

  thing by the way for those who don't [TS]

  know because this is one of my favorite [TS]

  things about the original star wars in [TS]

  the comic version there's the conference [TS]

  room scene where they're discussing how [TS]

  the plans got away and who's to blame [TS]

  and your ancient religion blah blah blah [TS]

  and it just as as the people are talking [TS]

  around the table Vader floats over a [TS]

  Styrofoam cup of coffee and a little yes [TS]

  how does he drink it [TS]

  yes I don't know using the force and [TS]

  then United States he's holding it for [TS]

  the rest of the scene including on shoka [TS]

  together [TS]

  need to do all the only thing that would [TS]

  have been awesome about that is it well [TS]

  to give you guys something of a copy [TS]

  then throws it in his face installed [TS]

  that would be hilarious you should have [TS]

  been quietly sipping through his helmet [TS]

  while choking the guy that's the dark [TS]

  side band confidence for chokers Vader [TS]

  doesn't put the cream in his coffee by [TS]

  the way he likes it black takes that [TS]

  black just like you like I like my [TS]

  coffee like my like my evil select [TS]

  myself Lords I really should have been [TS]

  on the real genius episode back job man [TS]

  yeah I know I I made it I made a [TS]

  horrible mistake with that episode it [TS]

  was I booked the wrong guests I I needed [TS]

  more people on my side [TS]

  it happens i went for diversity instead [TS]

  of a monoculture that would agree with [TS]

  me like that lesson [TS]

  yeah it's very strange to me that so [TS]

  there's so much love for the TV draft [TS]

  episodes when we were all convinced that [TS]

  that was going to be the second coming [TS]

  of the stephen fry said I after we [TS]

  posted the TV draft episode I really [TS]

  they were evenings when I would look out [TS]

  my window just to make sure that the [TS]

  torches and pitchforks poured out there [TS]

  you know if I had it all to do over [TS]

  again I think I would do it differently [TS]

  are those was that serious wow maybe a [TS]

  little little little muslim are you [TS]

  expecting us to create a flashback were [TS]

  either a song that's about to start that [TS]

  goes with that [TS]

  well I drafted a bunch of vampire [TS]

  detective and I have no I have no more [TS]

  than that sign but even greater problems [TS]

  don't seem dry so so more comments about [TS]

  Star Wars listener Ryan said Star Wars [TS]

  of course now John siracusa must turn [TS]

  his lecture like I on episodes one [TS]

  through three and he specifies the [TS]

  analytical Hannibal Lecter not the [TS]

  murderer apartment kind of like I i did [TS]

  you get to choose which part of him and [TS]

  passage deal i can guess which part [TS]

  John would choose to inflict on the [TS]

  prequels too and it's not the analytical [TS]

  part it's the murder part i see but [TS]

  here's the thing if you would just be [TS]

  two hours of Dijon saying I don't know [TS]

  what movie you're talking about [TS]

  it's true that movie existed really is [TS]

  his power of self-delusion is great [TS]

  you know considering the impact that [TS]

  ripples had on Star Wars fans i would [TS]

  say that those two were life-changing [TS]

  films troops in a different in a [TS]

  different sort of way in a vastly [TS]

  different sort of way if I could do it [TS]

  all over again I think I would do it [TS]

  differently [TS]

  mr. Matt throat and said that a episode [TS]

  67 68 where the best of the year where [TS]

  siracusa got down on Empire Strikes Back [TS]

  my favorite moment from this episode yes [TS]

  I am bleeding into a clip here is when [TS]

  John Syracuse's summed up Han Solo's [TS]

  character in just a few seconds the [TS]

  character is established to immediately [TS]

  fired his weapon upon seeing the enemy [TS]

  the only reason he didn't immediately [TS]

  shoot gritos gonna get the jump on them [TS]

  and had the gun grunting him first and [TS]

  he had to talk while he got his general [TS]

  Han shoots first for crying out loud he [TS]

  doesn't he doesn't even like Chewie [TS]

  growls at least on just immediately [TS]

  fires and draws his fast again doesn't [TS]

  fire once you just aim shoot kill kill [TS]

  kill [TS]

  that's hot that's hot solo in that scene [TS]

  he is a mayor and of action on solo and [TS]

  shoots first people John kill cancerous [TS]

  he's succinct yeah yeah but general [TS]

  member Hannibal Lecter saying something [TS]

  very similar in yeah it's somewhat more [TS]

  eloquent my generally in the Empire [TS]

  podcast there were some serious nerdery [TS]

  going on between Dan and John no I find [TS]

  that uh yeah I was nerded out I thought [TS]

  I knew a lot but it's a bit of romance [TS]

  I just have a curiosity everything from [TS]

  your guy's perspective how many days do [TS]

  you think he's there [TS]

  not that long maybe like oh we're trying [TS]

  to calculate based on like how long they [TS]

  spent running away from the the fuckin [TS]

  Spencer anyway [TS]

  yeah you don't know how long it took [TS]

  them to fly without warp speed 22 miles [TS]

  to Cloud City exactly i mean it seems [TS]

  like not more than a few days though [TS]

  right they make it seem like it's not [TS]

  long but I better be like a week yeah [TS]

  they spend a week running away from the [TS]

  empire but they were they spend a week [TS]

  fly they couldn't they couldn't go to [TS]

  light speed and takes awhile to get [TS]

  around you also don't know how long they [TS]

  were sitting on the back of the Star [TS]

  Destroyer until they get dumped off for [TS]

  track because you see them there and [TS]

  it's all dark and you're like you know [TS]

  what's our next move that could hang out [TS]

  there for a while I i don't know i [TS]

  always seems to me like three or four [TS]

  days and like man that's a that's a very [TS]

  short time to cram in your Jedi training [TS]

  it does seem faster in the movie like [TS]

  this look what exactly how much Jedi [TS]

  training to look actually get but I [TS]

  think even if you think it's only been a [TS]

  few days [TS]

  it shows he looks like someone who's had [TS]

  like a three day course on you know [TS]

  professional driving and now he's not [TS]

  camp Jedi boot camp right and and has [TS]

  not absorbed it's like if you took a [TS]

  three-day professional driving course [TS]

  such as our weekend really well yeah [TS]

  he's a Jedi weekend warrior yah-yah-yah [TS]

  dress venue and I had to basically stand [TS]

  on the sidelines while while damage on [TS]

  just listed all the things they loved [TS]

  about the empire strikes back [TS]

  yeah we we get our mouths open and then [TS]

  John when ordered and will put it more [TS]

  succinctly and then and then we go back [TS]

  to our caves and be like yeah i really [TS]

  love that movie to be there we really [TS]

  love that movie [TS]

  like a lot yeah I give it was legal in [TS]

  my state to marry that movie [TS]

  yeah i think it is it matches [TS]

  Massachusetts were very liberal true [TS]

  then you and John would have to fight [TS]

  over who married that movie [TS]

  oh I'm sure it's a slippery slope it's [TS]

  great just maybe both married in three [TS]

  two people in the movie are all married [TS]

  together and it's it is madness dr. now [TS]

  it's a sitcom sitcom there's yeah [TS]

  there's the start of values conquers all [TS]

  so mr. Clinton wrote in and said he [TS]

  liked the star wars podcast but he also [TS]

  specifically like to single out the [TS]

  doctor who episodes and our review of [TS]

  feed you see some people love it when we [TS]

  are critical Scott well that's good [TS]

  because that book is crap [TS]

  let's relive just how bad that book is [TS]

  feed by mira Grant who read fee i did [TS]

  mean for child and neither of us like to [TS]

  feed is is a novel about bloggers yes [TS]

  who are essentially news reporters of [TS]

  the future and this is set in the near [TS]

  future as well where technology is a [TS]

  little more advanced also there's been a [TS]

  zombie apocalypse and everybody who dies [TS]

  becomes a zombie and if you get bitten [TS]

  if by a zombie you die and then your [TS]

  zombie and an interesting i think that [TS]

  her world building was interesting so [TS]

  you can also since the the whatever the [TS]

  the zombie particle or whatever you [TS]

  wanna call it is been around it has not [TS]

  a virus yet the virus that's probably [TS]

  better is it so it's in everyone and it [TS]

  can just spontaneously activate so you [TS]

  don't have to be bitten by a zombie you [TS]

  could just spontaneously turn into a [TS]

  zombie and animals also turned into [TS]

  zombies over 40 pounds or something so [TS]

  right there's like there's a law that [TS]

  you can't have a pet that's over 40 [TS]

  pounds because it could spontaneously [TS]

  turn into like a zombie my Marmaduke but [TS]

  think how Bad's on be like mosquitoes [TS]

  would be slung be one rat that's why you [TS]

  can't do that yet so but zombie horses [TS]

  yes this was really not very good know [TS]

  it was you mean it would have had [TS]

  bringing an endorsement [TS]

  I cannot believe I actually i look at [TS]

  this and think how did this get [TS]

  nominated for hugo award [TS]

  I don't understand a world where this [TS]

  book and the Dervish house can be [TS]

  considered in the same group [TS]

  it's just the gap is so why don't [TS]

  understand it [TS]

  so Dan and Glenn what what can I tell [TS]

  you you gotta reach yeah I'm gonna take [TS]

  an article [TS]

  oh I'm gonna go right out i'm so glad [TS]

  that I didn't just like go on mute for [TS]

  this then come back and guys like a [TS]

  totally repeat happy [TS]

  sucker and the best part is it's the [TS]

  first book in a trilogy so [TS]

  oh of course after i love it i love [TS]

  however scott i had hate to break it to [TS]

  you [TS]

  some people also hate it when we are [TS]

  critical listener ash road in and said [TS]

  the most infuriating episode was when [TS]

  you ravage the best book of the year [TS]

  ready player one I have a special i have [TS]

  a message [TS]

  I i assume listener ashes illiterate [TS]

  because then that book is also crap that [TS]

  as much crap as feed i will give him at [TS]

  still crap i read the that doesn't I'm [TS]

  sample and I felt illiterate after [TS]

  finishing just an efficient i think [TS]

  that's an episode like the real genius [TS]

  episode i think that's an episode with a [TS]

  host Letta let the guests get away from [TS]

  get wet get away from him now I think [TS]

  that hosted an excellent job I i would [TS]

  say he was one of the best host of the [TS]

  year everything about this book is is [TS]

  basically a trope right like the plot [TS]

  the characters and the amaj and I guess [TS]

  you know it seems like it's one of those [TS]

  situations that should be a perfect [TS]

  storm of things that people like and yet [TS]

  it doesn't quite seem to succeed just [TS]

  immune it doesn't have that one thing [TS]

  that people like which is a story is a [TS]

  story that keeps them guessing and I [TS]

  mean like with fine pandered to whatever [TS]

  but you want to you want to be kept like [TS]

  I'm i was going to the story but it was [TS]

  just you just saw where was going in [TS]

  there isn't much surprised that's why [TS]

  the pacman steam so it out so much [TS]

  because there was so little in this [TS]

  thing that you knew I'd like in a movie [TS]

  that you know anything they show you [TS]

  it's like a wall that's going to be [TS]

  significant is probably gonna save them [TS]

  in the end that because no one else is [TS]

  doing it like there wasn't enough stuff [TS]

  for it because it like a good mystery [TS]

  even a short little mystery novel that [TS]

  mean enough stuff going on that you can [TS]

  immediately pick out haha when that guy [TS]

  came into the room put that thing down [TS]

  that was important because so much other [TS]

  stuff happens in the story and you [TS]

  wrapped up in the people in this thing [TS]

  it was just everything was just poking [TS]

  up out of the the ground really tall [TS]

  appears this tower which is this plot [TS]

  point this tower which is this plot [TS]

  point and it wasn't any meat on the [TS]

  bones you know that it's a new overclock [TS]

  processor that's so fast its cycle time [TS]

  board on [TS]

  precognition first of all overclocking [TS]

  that was like so two decades ago and [TS]

  cycle time board its recognition make no [TS]

  sense but like I asked my mother to [TS]

  write a sentence about how fast the cpu [TS]

  I'm glad we didn't get any comments from [TS]

  people who said I'll i really like the [TS]

  episodes where people who are Jason [TS]

  hosted at least in getting episodes [TS]

  where they're like I really hated the [TS]

  people who subbed in for Jason cuz that [TS]

  make me said I liked the episode where [TS]

  Glenn breathe a lot thank you enough [TS]

  so let them roll the clip you know so [TS]

  critical i mean we are we are sometimes [TS]

  critical and some people hate that and [TS]

  some people like it we don't try to tear [TS]

  everything down every week i mean i [TS]

  think that reaction of the star wars [TS]

  episode shows that people also enjoy it [TS]

  when we talk about things we love and so [TS]

  it's it's hard to strike a balance I had [TS]

  somebody on Twitter the other day said [TS]

  that we were all a bunch of a bunch of [TS]

  pedis and infrared yeah that's that's [TS]

  John job but the rest of us are are are [TS]

  are much more kind of you know we love [TS]

  things we hate things and that's okay i [TS]

  think criticism is good is good to share [TS]

  and sometimes we hate things and talk [TS]

  about why we hate them but that's not [TS]

  all we also love things we hate the dark [TS]

  night though nobody likes the dark [TS]

  ok we destroyed that that's ahead movie [TS]

  held in high regard high regard but what [TS]

  we did we toured that into little tiny [TS]

  pieces i think i think i missed out on [TS]

  that 1i might have defended who ya [TS]

  always something that was the superhero [TS]

  movie episode where you I was i believe [TS]

  i was absent a little i would i would [TS]

  argue that were united air [TS]

  let's check the tape oh let's go to the [TS]

  videotape [TS]

  overrated is the dark knight not because [TS]

  it's such a terrible movie because it [TS]

  isn't terrible is a superhero movie that [TS]

  tries to have everything in it you know [TS]

  great acting dramatic fight scenes and [TS]

  amazing villain and every possible [TS]

  scenario you can imagine for the villain [TS]

  to go in a you know a love story the [TS]

  loss of a main character revenge and it [TS]

  just it just ends up being too much the [TS]

  dark knight is a great great movie for [TS]

  about sixty percent and then it just [TS]

  doesn't end it keeps going keeps trying [TS]

  to have more and it it goes off the [TS]

  rails at the end I don't wanna I don't [TS]

  want to draw a parallel between the dark [TS]

  knight and batman returns the second of [TS]

  the tim burton Batman's which is a far [TS]

  Batman Returns far inferior to the dark [TS]

  knight i would say the dark knight is a [TS]

  good movie it's just horribly overrated [TS]

  but they are similar in that both of [TS]

  them the first movie was successful had [TS]

  a lot of constraints that I think may [TS]

  have made them successful and then they [TS]

  took all the constraints off and and the [TS]

  with batman returns it was really like [TS]

  okay well we made Tim Burton act like a [TS]

  grown-up he made a good movie now will [TS]

  let him do whatever the hell he wants [TS]

  oh god he made he's made something [TS]

  atrocious [TS]

  not to mention the fact that that why is [TS]

  it that superhero movie franchises feel [TS]

  that once a movie is successful the best [TS]

  way to do a sequel is by multiplying the [TS]

  number of villains in it by a factor of [TS]

  three [TS]

  Oh God well the doctor i didn't have [TS]

  that problem with the multiple villain [TS]

  well I could have Harvey today's any of [TS]

  this stuff comes at the end which is in [TS]

  my mind the worst part of that movie is [TS]

  with because that I know where are you [TS]

  always try is trying to lead into the [TS]

  next movie with my biggest complaints [TS]

  are they like the fairy scene and the [TS]

  sort of little brother moralizing those [TS]

  two bits didn't need to be in that movie [TS]

  a fairy stone i think is terrible and [TS]

  that's actually happening simultaneous [TS]

  with another scene that is bad which is [TS]

  Batman gets equipped morgan freeman [TS]

  equips Batman with his his bat radar [TS]

  right his ballot all right he goes into [TS]

  a tall building and he's trying to fight [TS]

  bad guys in this tall building and it's [TS]

  one of the most incompetent we put [TS]

  together action scenes I've ever seen in [TS]

  a major movie you at no point do you [TS]

  really understand what [TS]

  going on you're completely lose track it [TS]

  sort of transformers level of confusion [TS]

  and it's a shame because again if [TS]

  somebody come in and said no no this is [TS]

  too much you've got a great movie here [TS]

  if we chop off most of the last 30 [TS]

  minutes or 45 minutes it would be a much [TS]

  better movie than it is [TS]

  yeah because it starts really strong and [TS]

  it's focused and strong and dramatic and [TS]

  I think the worst decision was that they [TS]

  tried to make the big dramatic thing [TS]

  that happens in the final act is bad [TS]

  one of the things is there's not a [TS]

  problem is 10 different things that [TS]

  happen the final actress Batman [TS]

  rejecting the idea of spying on the [TS]

  citizenry you know I'll do it this once [TS]

  but you have to burn the computers down [TS]

  when you're done you know and his and [TS]

  his faithful helper almost you know [TS]

  threatens to quit because of this great [TS]

  decision like no one cares about this [TS]

  this is not of Batman's world [TS]

  I don't care about Batman spies on his [TS]

  to fight the bad guys i was on a later [TS]

  superhero movie episode [TS]

  yeah you were talking about this we're [TS]

  talking about this year's superhero [TS]

  movies i was on that one when I was not [TS]

  on the one where we talked about [TS]

  superhero movies in general right in the [TS]

  dark knight which we didn't like even [TS]

  though my design [TS]

  I liked it I liked it speaking of being [TS]

  critical now would probably be a good [TS]

  time to interject my personal favorite [TS]

  podcast moment of this year [TS]

  oh yes which is John siracusa in the TV [TS]

  draft picking Jack Shephard and he's so [TS]

  proud of himself for getting to the [TS]

  third round and and still having Jack [TS]

  Shephard on the board and immediately he [TS]

  gets slammed relentlessly by every [TS]

  single other person on the on the [TS]

  podcast for picking such a drab dull [TS]

  character and literally everybody has [TS]

  their say I think 11 a time everybody [TS]

  leans it and what is nothing to say at [TS]

  the end of him because he's been so [TS]

  abused [TS]

  I'm happy to have made into the third [TS]

  round for this pic Jack Shephard from [TS]

  lost the lead of one of the best shows [TS]

  in recent years at least interesting [TS]

  there are you sure he wants that well [TS]

  maybe I have a plan for him everything [TS]

  that everybody has a plan for Jack's [TS]

  gonna cry a lot [TS]

  boredom is that you're playing i hope i [TS]

  hope you're not counting on your show [TS]

  involving him asking perceptive [TS]

  questions i think i think he looks I [TS]

  think you look sad a lot and he stares [TS]

  in the middle distance a lot so you know [TS]

  what would be a good episode of your [TS]

  show but let's find out how Jack got his [TS]

  tattoos I hear that would be really [TS]

  interesting [TS]

  he knew he just needed a doctor for his [TS]

  little Firefly show right of course it [TS]

  turned out to be you know part of the [TS]

  plan but still it was it's it's so funny [TS]

  because he's pleased just even John [TS]

  siracusa needs needs a little needs to [TS]

  be taken down a peg every once in awhile [TS]

  it siracusa yeah listen Scott who is not [TS]

  scott McNulty crazy or he would become [TS]

  invited said that he enjoyed episode 33 [TS]

  win Syracuse's skewered real genius [TS]

  oh good times and I episode 23 when [TS]

  serenity Caldwell picked Mystery Men as [TS]

  her superhero movie that she enjoyed I [TS]

  believe who Diana and skeletor yeah [TS]

  there you go just yet and Scotts request [TS]

  is more drafts and more old movies so [TS]

  vote for old things [TS]

  whoo yeah you can do that much for that [TS]

  are you things that are also old no old [TS]

  things [TS]

  nice um I just big 40 you things have a [TS]

  lot of canceled shows strapped to which [TS]

  wich a which was our lesson same of our [TS]

  tube perhaps that we did but there was [TS]

  some good stuff and my favorite moment [TS]

  of that episode is where we all forgot [TS]

  to pick firefly except Scott who hates [TS]

  firefly but the rest is just for God [TS]

  didn't win forget didn't we make an [TS]

  explicit agreement upfront that was [TS]

  afterwards that I was named can we make [TS]

  it explicit agreement at the word yes it [TS]

  was red card I i think if you if you [TS]

  listen carefully to a clip that i might [TS]

  play in a second you might notice that [TS]

  there is a slight edit their where [TS]

  we actually went through the first round [TS]

  realize nobody picked firefly I need [TS]

  that it would be the first pic and then [TS]

  moved that section ahead to make it seem [TS]

  as if we planned the whole sexy [TS]

  oh it's likely they changed the Darren's [TS]

  secrets are revealed [TS]

  oh here so i guess it's my choice but [TS]

  before I make my my selection did [TS]

  everybody just assumed that everybody [TS]

  else is going to pick Firefly is that [TS]

  what happened [TS]

  I mean what should I just bought us [TS]

  should we just site Firefly and spot it [TS]

  as saying like number one is firefly but [TS]

  and none of us are going to pick it [TS]

  because really I could pick it here but [TS]

  I've got such a long list and I think it [TS]

  kind of goes without saying that [TS]

  everybody knows that Joss Whedon's sci [TS]

  fi Western e thing firefly got cancelled [TS]

  way too soon and was really quite good [TS]

  and it died young and left a beautiful [TS]

  corpse [TS]

  but you know please somebody wants to [TS]

  wants to pick it we can do that but [TS]

  otherwise i'm willing to just put it up [TS]

  on the word was it was taking anybody's [TS]

  was it not on anybody's list [TS]

  oh it's on my list but of course I just [TS]

  assumed also take it so I didn't you [TS]

  know I think we should take it as read [TS]

  and move on yes we've talked about it [TS]

  all the time and other episodes it was [TS]

  20 f pic of the dream it was not on my [TS]

  list because i do not like it but I'm I [TS]

  you always gonna be Scott and yeah [TS]

  anybody [TS]

  yeah I assumed everybody else but Scott [TS]

  would pick it will see they're all right [TS]

  so I I you get firefly i will like a [TS]

  firefly on the board [TS]

  thank God we have an editor wait this [TS]

  podcast is ended only slightly I our [TS]

  army doctor who / podcasts know these [TS]

  are completely unedited yes i have to [TS]

  say and it shows [TS]

  ya mean but originally just usually we [TS]

  come up with greatness i particularly [TS]

  liked our let's quilt Hitler episode if [TS]

  only for the nonsense that it happens at [TS]

  the very end when we go into things like [TS]

  quilting Hitler and finding ways to make [TS]

  nazis funny a new plot i just decided [TS]

  that i'm going to write a book called [TS]

  what's quilt Hitler oh look [TS]

  uh-huh okay I know what Scott is my [TS]

  daughter should people behind the [TS]

  spaceship that's also a man come up with [TS]

  a new plan called let's build Hitler i [TS]

  like the idea of selling a book called [TS]

  but schools filter for me to like now we [TS]

  can suss out all the Nazis that's [TS]

  expandable that's the way my name is [TS]

  some overlap Nazi quilters who doesn't [TS]

  want to smuggle with Hitler tonight but [TS]

  they're all these while you're over 40 [TS]

  so i can have blackmail material [TS]

  I'm i know i am still recording our girl [TS]

  yeah yeah we discovered one of the [TS]

  things about Scott in the podcast and a [TS]

  lot about ourselves so i also have have [TS]

  have some more reader feedback here [TS]

  these are she stayed on two stages on [TS]

  studying these are from the contact form [TS]

  and if you're wondering how to send us [TS]

  information via the contact for perhaps [TS]

  a newsletter is it to Center clock yeah [TS]

  this historic courthouse that's that's [TS]

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  Fred Mertz miracle other forestry will [TS]

  read them from the judges desk you go to [TS]

  five-by-five a TV / contact and then you [TS]

  can send messages like this one from [TS]

  Stephen who writes in great show on [TS]

  holiday movies but you missed my [TS]

  favorite remember the night with Barbara [TS]

  Stanwyck and Fred MacMurray are you have [TS]

  not seen that 1i have no idea what he's [TS]

  talking about [TS]

  now I've never heard of it do you think [TS]

  that stephen fry [TS]

  it's possible you know it's a bad sign [TS]

  when the title is remember the night and [TS]

  nobody does nobody remembers remember [TS]

  that night the day you'll always [TS]

  remember question from mr. David volada [TS]

  who says i'm new to the show and enjoy [TS]

  it tons [TS]

  thank you used in in your recent book [TS]

  club episode you joked about this being [TS]

  a book club [TS]

  it's not it's not a joke okay maybe it [TS]

  is a book club [TS]

  he says I'm new so I apologize if this [TS]

  is common knowledge but is there such a [TS]

  thing where I can learn of a book to be [TS]

  discussed in the future read it on my [TS]

  own and then listening as its discussed [TS]

  and the answer is if we get our act [TS]

  together in the previous book club we [TS]

  will mention it if we don't get our act [TS]

  together we will try to mention it on [TS]

  the previously mentioned the [TS]

  incomparable Twitter account so follow [TS]

  the incomparable on Twitter and we'll [TS]

  try to let you know what books we are [TS]

  planning on reading for future editions [TS]

  of the book club and FYI you can always [TS]

  not listen to episode read the book and [TS]

  then listen to it such is the glory of [TS]

  the podcast that is a great thing about [TS]

  this medium if you guys pick a book [TS]

  that's ten years old I might read it [TS]

  maybe you already read it [TS]

  chew on that Steve a pal of grey Moss [TS]

  described only as a pal of greatness [TS]

  wrote in to say tell your incomparable [TS]

  buddies i have declared jihad on [TS]

  siracusa he who despises real genius [TS]

  despises life people people feel very [TS]

  strongly like John Syracuse's what I'm [TS]

  learning from this [TS]

  yes yes he does that uh listener [TS]

  Christopher wrote in to suggest a topic [TS]

  for an upcoming show before Christmas [TS]

  oh well let's get on that haha sorry [TS]

  this 2012 but but he wants to hear us [TS]

  discuss cult christmas movies so maybe [TS]

  we'll see that Barbara Stanwyck movie [TS]

  could be a stressed-out 2s9 you all [TS]

  remember the night before this time next [TS]

  year but he mentioned you mentioned [TS]

  diehard a christmas story The Nightmare [TS]

  Before Christmas elf home alone all of [TS]

  which we mentioned in our christmas [TS]

  movie podcast so I thought it was as [TS]

  yesterday at least partially satisfy as [TS]

  if we listen to Christopher even though [TS]

  we didn't read his letter until much [TS]

  later he's an avid listener of 2011 [TS]

  and I wanted to read my favorite itunes [TS]

  review of the podcast please go to [TS]

  iTunes and give us a positive review [TS]

  because you can count Iraq this review [TS]

  left on october tense the subject [TS]

  ugh OH was unless my Kathy five people [TS]

  talking over top of each other laughing [TS]

  at their own poor quote jokes [TS]

  close quote and then repeating them [TS]

  again because no one else laughed no [TS]

  insight no interesting points of view [TS]

  no entertainment value unless you have [TS]

  no friends to sit around a table and [TS]

  chat with listen to be uncomfortable is [TS]

  like listening to five different podcast [TS]

  being played at once [TS]

  that's an idea a stain on the otherwise [TS]

  mostly excellent five-by-five network i [TS]

  like that i like the qualifier mostly [TS]

  closely [TS]

  I'd like to apologize again for the [TS]

  stephen fry episode i'm clearly we're so [TS]

  I i think this gentleman might be an m16 [TS]

  friday so Stephen Fry I've been playing [TS]

  a lot of Wolfenstein 3d lately a [TS]

  twenty-year-old game [TS]

  oh and I bought it you name nine out of [TS]

  ten models when they're shot die by [TS]

  saying ugh [TS]

  oh good point so it's you're saying he's [TS]

  a pixelated not see it in the in his [TS]

  death throes as he's taken a review [TS]

  30 mr. sure he listened to a second [TS]

  episode that wasn't Stephen Fry it [TS]

  probably it was probably this one and [TS]

  this one is subsequently he drafted he [TS]

  wrote that i remember seeing that one [TS]

  yeah so not everybody loved it [TS]

  not everybody loved the TV draft that's [TS]

  ok that's ok you can love us you can [TS]

  hate it's exactly you're allowed to be [TS]

  critical of us we week so good we can [TS]

  add ago we can be praised phul you [TS]

  should be critical in principle to [TS]

  exactly what you're gonna be critical [TS]

  keep it to yourself don't want to hear [TS]

  it cries your position [TS]

  whenever i'm criticizing if your [TS]

  critical at least be at least be [TS]

  inventive and innovative don't criticize [TS]

  thought you were gonna say at least be [TS]

  critical of jobs siracusa for that or [TS]

  that God knows I dude he's Syracuse is [TS]

  too big to be on this episode tonight by [TS]

  the way it's nice to be so this proxies [TS]

  and his eye his agent is agent would let [TS]

  up here [TS]

  he doesn't do clip shows sadly strictly [TS]

  regulated yeah ever since Eric's gonna [TS]

  work without the star wars holiday [TS]

  season we couldn't afford him couldn't [TS]

  afford John cerquita up so I've [TS]

  exhausted all of our reader interaction [TS]

  for for 2011 there that was able to [TS]

  thank goodness [TS]

  can I ask can I throw out my favorite [TS]

  moment moment from about yes please God [TS]

  I right you know I was racking my brains [TS]

  that it popped into my head because I [TS]

  just I love this moment I don't remember [TS]

  exactly where you put it and i think it [TS]

  may be at the beginning of one of one of [TS]

  the Empire episodes which is everybody's [TS]

  impression of a imperial probe droid [TS]

  oh yes that's at the beginning of one of [TS]

  the Empire episodes and the other the [TS]

  other one ends with yes largely you [TS]

  doing your series of sound effects from [TS]

  you can learn story star wars soundboard [TS]

  very real problem guard and imap matter [TS]

  and a proper environment [TS]

  ok and I'll try it remember where ya [TS]

  riverbrook super oh how forgot but maybe [TS]

  it's a little crass two favorite my own [TS]

  appearance and about getting you know [TS]

  what no one else did [TS]

  so no I thought it was that that was a [TS]

  funny moment with John mentioned the [TS]

  imperial probe droid have been all four [TS]

  of us begin doing our impressions all of [TS]

  which are extremely different which is [TS]

  also strange its yes but all of them [TS]

  good in their own way [TS]

  oh i think i will like to give a [TS]

  shout-out as the kids say maybe sure [TS]

  this will say that to glen relations [TS]

  Jack Donaghy impersonation so glad i [TS]

  love and II we love we love Glenn Glenn [TS]

  Glenn could do a one-man show [TS]

  I think he did so so Glenn would do his [TS]

  Jack Donnie impression and I believe he [TS]

  mispronounces Jack Donaghey we could [TS]

  have them do some heavy breathing that's [TS]

  right and and then [TS]

  right and and then [TS]

  you could have him to host an episode [TS]

  about they might be giants and [TS]

  repeatedly delivered of the demand as [TS]

  they may be Giants they must be Giants [TS]

  there could be done I don't know go and [TS]

  don't forget of course is also excellent [TS]

  impression of Jimmy Stewart the holiday [TS]

  movies episode but of course one of [TS]

  these days to the moon [TS]

  stop your yapping we have a shipment of [TS]

  10 million blackberry playbook stew [TS]

  process for the unobtanium that the [TS]

  Canadians actually baked into the cpu [TS]

  Canadians to the moon [TS]

  Sulu's probables a man of one voice [TS]

  stroked out Jimmy's but many [TS]

  Impressionists but we love God and a bag [TS]

  claim my favorite thing about about the [TS]

  Glen contributed to the podcast this [TS]

  year is that he came up with the idea [TS]

  for the TV draft man wasn't in it as [TS]

  well and then refused to to play with [TS]

  the team that we in fact drafted for yes [TS]

  yes he's he's told me several times that [TS]

  this is phase one of his multi-phase [TS]

  plan to destroy the podcast [TS]

  well I thought phase one with Stephen [TS]

  fra that was more like phase zero well [TS]

  so you know it was a it was a good year [TS]

  we started this podcast in 2010 but we [TS]

  did a whole lot of episodes in 2011 and [TS]

  it was all it was a lot of fun i'm [TS]

  looking forward to what crazy things [TS]

  will do when in 2012 like this show [TS]

  yeah nothing's gonna stop Skeletor [TS]

  though hmm i don't that maybe Skeletor [TS]

  nobody can defeat skills or he's in the [TS]

  Hall of Fame now [TS]

  well so happy New Year to everybody out [TS]

  there and here's to a good 2012 and I [TS]

  you know I want to thank not only the [TS]

  people who are here on this episode but [TS]

  all the contributors to the [TS]

  uncomfortable in the past year it's been [TS]

  a lot of fun so i would like to thank [TS]

  most particularly the people who showed [TS]

  up for the clip show so thank you Scott [TS]

  McNulty thank you Jason [TS]

  Thank You serenity Caldwell well I thank [TS]

  you Jason Snell thank you Dan Morgan I i [TS]

  guess thanks are in order even lots [TS]

  Prospero annually felicidad snow bank [TS]

  and shank stew over all the listeners [TS]

  even those who didn't write in or leave [TS]

  one star itunes reviews [TS]

  thank you most of all ugh we'll be back [TS]

  with regular episodes next week [TS]

  another good good [TS]

  there you go that's an episode right [TS]

  there episode number 73 argh [TS]

  you know I did relate Skeletor sorry I [TS]

  have a school-related most when i was a [TS]

  kid i loved i love t man is good and my [TS]

  cousins used to babysit for me and my [TS]

  cousin Jennie who I think was in her [TS]

  teens late teens early twenties but [TS]

  recently used to change to breed me a [TS]

  heat minute he-man story and should we [TS]

  change it to and then Skeletor killed he [TS]

  mayhem and I would sit there going no [TS]

  that's impossible [TS]

  I thought you were about to say she used [TS]

  to change you into a loincloth and a [TS]

  purple and blue that's a different [TS]

  molecule let's let's do it now and it's [TS]

  already very babe attention during my [TS]

  nap now [TS]

  oh that was good for it that's good [TS]

  radio that's good podcast on you [TS]

  that's it etudie are you all was that [TS]

  your your impression of a watch on a [TS]

  dyslexic stores fan of our stores or [TS]

  stores thank you [TS]

  well now go to a solo well I have to say [TS]

  is ugh [TS]