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0:00:00the incomparable podcast number 70

0:00:07December 2011

0:00:11welcome back to the incomparable podcast

0:00:14I'm Glenn Fleischmann and I'm slipping

0:00:16into the blue suede shoes of jason l

0:00:19this week the host our first geeky nerdy

0:00:21music episode back in September 2010 we

0:00:25to talk about soundtracks was an episode

0:00:274 but this is the first time we're

0:00:29talking about band songs your worms our

0:00:32favorite music that kind of thing and

0:00:34there's a lot to talk about so this will

0:00:36likely be the first of several over the

0:00:38next millennia podcast we do on the

0:00:41subject of music we certainly can't fit

0:00:42everything and there's there's an

0:00:43explosion a nerd extravaganza of music

0:00:47designed for those of you who are

0:00:49listening to this podcast so joining me

0:00:52tonight is a regular host subjected to

0:00:54my mockery this time Jason smell I miss

0:00:58I miss the regular host what happened

0:00:59him what's wrong is in rehab again

0:01:01no he's not locked into a closet thank

0:01:04you for joining us thank you for hosting

0:01:06I thank you

0:01:07also joining us is Lex Friedman who is a

0:01:10friend of the podcast last on an episode

0:01:1241 so long ago i'm back to the future

0:01:15and he was also a silent guest for the

0:01:17episode 22 Stephen Fry does not appear

0:01:19which we here at the podcast call the

0:01:22podcast that must never be repeated

0:01:24well I hope to continue that trend of

0:01:27making unrepeatable podcaster also

0:01:29called Glenn's folly that's informal

0:01:32there are many podcasts they're called

0:01:34Glenn's always that's pretty much most

0:01:36of the time that's edited out of

0:01:38podcasts that called that I believe

0:01:40that's Jason's folly because he's doing

0:01:42the editing and finally we've got Scott

0:01:44McNulty host guard Scott Oakland you

0:01:48challenge my supremacy is host for this

0:01:50episode so we'll be fighting it out now

0:01:52you'll pay for your help out thanks

0:01:54Scott look Scott I I like Jason's less

0:01:58hostile introduction

0:02:01oh you will you would well so when we

0:02:07talk about tonight gentlemen we are

0:02:08talking about geeky music and I remember

0:02:11listening late at night when I was a lad

0:02:13to dr. Demento and geeky music back you

0:02:16know 300 years ago

0:02:18oh yeah 30 years ago was was it was dr.

0:02:21Demento stuff it was novelty record and

0:02:23it was Billy mummies

0:02:25efficient as on and you know things like

0:02:28that the coming to take me away and it

0:02:31was novelty stuff it wasn't the things

0:02:33that were for geeks were things that had

0:02:35inside jokes about Star Trek or Doctor

0:02:37Who strange they still do but nobody

0:02:40wasn't mainstream culture than it was

0:02:42all meant for people who were sort of

0:02:44stuck away

0:02:45listen to dr. Demento late at night

0:02:47recording them on their eight you know

0:02:48the reel-to-reel organize it did you

0:02:51ever appear on dr. Demento did you ever

0:02:52call in and let me have your

0:02:54requirements laid on the air you know

0:02:56that's an amazing thing I didn't know I

0:02:57I in fact did

0:02:59oh yes that's cool that's super cool

0:03:02yeah wait

0:03:03super cool i would like to go on record

0:03:04as saying I have a song played on the

0:03:06doctor with radio show we're song you

0:03:09created a song I created was played on

0:03:12the dr. Demento show

0:03:13oh my god this is a great secret you

0:03:16know I had a king and Lex has an ace

0:03:18I'm sorry about that my son was hooked

0:03:21on phonics it was a parody of ironic by

0:03:24alanis morissette with the music done by

0:03:27a person i had met through the internet

0:03:28while I was in junior high school and I

0:03:30have no idea who that person was or who

0:03:32generated that music for me at the time

0:03:33was hilarious

0:03:35that's awesome well we are obviously

0:03:36fully qualified then I get introduced to

0:03:40dr. menter by am I incredibly geeky

0:03:42theater friend so I was like double or

0:03:44triple geeky they're an older woman was

0:03:47involved in theatre and she introduced

0:03:48me to dr. Demento the show not the

0:03:50person and you know I listen for years

0:03:52and at some point I was like you know

0:03:54sort of it never gets any different it's

0:03:56sort of always the same kind of jokey

0:03:58slightly childhood stuff and I loved a

0:04:00lot of was on there and some of it i

0:04:01still listen to but i think that was

0:04:03sort of a a place where that all

0:04:06collected as we're weird al yankovic

0:04:07made his first appearance from Bray she

0:04:09played a doctor better play we're now

0:04:12first before to it though I've been out

0:04:14there the story ends with you having

0:04:15dinner with dr. Demento I swear to god

0:04:17I've never never have no connection you

0:04:21with anything that ok but so dr. Demento

0:04:24so I bring him up because I think he's

0:04:26kind of the point that people think

0:04:27about when they think about Kiki music

0:04:28to think about the novelty stuff but you

0:04:30know now it's something happened maybe

0:04:33in the nineteen eighties where Fred

0:04:35Schneider I mean maybe I'm being

0:04:37ridiculous here but i think that

0:04:38b-52 they're not geeky percent bring

0:04:41them up in this podcast as an example i

0:04:42keep your nerdy music

0:04:45not exactly but it was weird it was

0:04:47strange and hit the mainstream and

0:04:48around the same time I think that's when

0:04:50they might be giants started up in about

0:04:52nineteen eighty-two and we're gonna

0:04:54spend the first half of the podcast for

0:04:56the first portion talking about they may

0:04:57be Giants because they are sort of the

0:04:59the or nerd band they talked about nerdy

0:05:02weird things history and science and

0:05:05surrealism and they were incredibly

0:05:07clever in there lyrics they're sort of

0:05:09you know like as clever elvis costello

0:05:11if Elvis Costello did novelty style

0:05:13songs and they for awhile became almost

0:05:17popular it was an accident

0:05:19as I recall the time remember um was all

0:05:21a misunderstanding what it seemed like

0:05:23because they weren't trying to write pop

0:05:24music but they're really terrific

0:05:25songwriters and they wrote some music

0:05:27that apparently was just mainstream

0:05:29enough like it was the big was don't let

0:05:31start was not one of the big ones i

0:05:34think it was wasn't it slide with the

0:05:35birdhouse in your soul and eventually

0:05:37signed this excitement level

0:05:39yes I don't have particle man and

0:05:41parking and I signed to Elektra Records

0:05:43MTV started playing something

0:05:45Constantinople was on a TV show one of

0:05:48the kids shows and piney too tiny to

0:05:49school which was listened to by stoner

0:05:52watch mostly by stoners i think is

0:05:53orchid children children is there a

0:05:57difference through a child I was a

0:05:59stoner child I was told you were born

0:06:01fully grown so I my mother doesn't

0:06:03return my calls so they might be giants

0:06:06didn't maintain know this popularity for

0:06:09that long we start there's a great line

0:06:11i found the New Yorker profile them from

0:06:122002 and it said they return to a more

0:06:15consistent if moderate popularity and I

0:06:18think that's sort of the case like

0:06:19everyone at a certain level knows who

0:06:22they might be giants are and they

0:06:23started in children's music more than a

0:06:24decade ago but they're almost 30 year

0:06:27old band and I wonder maybe each of you

0:06:30have a have the how did you come to they

0:06:31might be giants story or some kind of

0:06:33experience where is that assuming maybe

0:06:35I'm wrong this is kind of first band

0:06:37like that that came across your path who

0:06:40would like to start

0:06:41well I'll start is a as a doctor Demento

0:06:44list of course yes I was inculcated in

0:06:46all of that but that was something in at

0:06:48least in my life in it

0:06:49I get the impression in a lot of

0:06:51people's lives that's something you

0:06:5212 between the ages of you know 10 and

0:06:5614 15 and then you move and then you

0:06:58move on or in lexus case he continued

0:07:01problem with this day but most of us

0:07:03move on anyway um they might be giants i

0:07:06had a friend who I worked with in the

0:07:09mid-nineties Jim bribery who was the

0:07:13editor of mac user magazine at the time

0:07:16and he basically loaned me his copy of

0:07:20John Henry which is actually a great

0:07:25album and I i don't know whether this is

0:07:27thought but by more people who listen to

0:07:30they might be giants but it strikes me

0:07:31as like the overlooked and forgotten

0:07:34album in that it doesn't have what feels

0:07:37like a super big hit single on it but I

0:07:40love love love that entire album and I

0:07:44listened to that thing I I you know I

0:07:46gave Jim his CD back and bought my own

0:07:48CD of that and listen to it endlessly

0:07:52the one with the kids in the skull and

0:07:54on the album art and it says we hate

0:07:57they might be giants on the banner that

0:07:59said being held by children and it's got

0:08:01some you know some crazy songs like AK

0:08:04driver and and dirt bike and the end of

0:08:07the tour and snail shell and subliminal

0:08:10which they played in the show that i

0:08:12just saw with them and I thought that

0:08:14was really cool because for some reason

0:08:16I feel like John Henry is this album

0:08:18that nobody basically because one at the

0:08:20time it didn't seem like anybody had

0:08:22ever heard of them and I felt like I

0:08:23discovered this band that had this crazy

0:08:26album and then it opened up and I bottle

0:08:28all their other albums and have

0:08:29continued to do so but it was just a

0:08:32friend who thought that I would like it

0:08:34and boy you know full credit to gym who

0:08:37has excellent taste in music and he and

0:08:39I share a lot of likes of power pop

0:08:41bands and things like that that he

0:08:43zeroed in on they might be giants and

0:08:44let me borrow John Henry and the rest is

0:08:47history

0:08:48but John Henry is also my favorite

0:08:50they've enjoyed somebody really when it

0:08:52came out it was a controversy amongst

0:08:54hardcore they might be giants nerdy

0:08:56because it was a full band right because

0:08:58it's full band so everyone was like this

0:09:00is out

0:09:00Aegis what are you doing to us where's

0:09:02the accordion but exactly i will never

0:09:05listen to this

0:09:06well you can say where's the accordion

0:09:08on on John Henry the very first track

0:09:10yeah i knows with the accordance with

0:09:11the hardrock accordion I know but still

0:09:13there's the synthesizer I had no right I

0:09:17had no idea where the drum machine

0:09:19that's true that was the first that i

0:09:21had an experience that they might be

0:09:23giants up for me it was perfectly

0:09:24natural and I thought that was an

0:09:25awesome so I'm glad you like a to scott

0:09:27i do so Scott what's your what's your

0:09:29what's your story

0:09:30what's your story man I so when I was a

0:09:33kid I was not really interested in music

0:09:36for whatever reason so the music I grew

0:09:39up listening to was the music that my

0:09:41mother listen to which happened to be

0:09:43for those who lived in the New York area

0:09:45at the same time it was a CBS FM they

0:09:48play your favorite oldies CBS FM so I

0:09:52the music of my childhood is like from

0:09:55fifties and sixties which I thought

0:09:58apparently they lived in like a time

0:09:59bubble was current music and then I went

0:10:02to my friends house and he put on flood

0:10:06in a cassette and it blew my mind I was

0:10:10like what this is not due up

0:10:12what is going on these men they're

0:10:15singing with their voices in a different

0:10:16fashion it's true so then that was birds

0:10:19and things the first I heard of them and

0:10:21then I they have because they were my

0:10:23favorite band ever since and that's my

0:10:26story

0:10:27I think it's sorry i just listened to

0:10:28SBC FM which played your least favorite

0:10:31oldies I don't know they're on the

0:10:33airport they tied her up

0:10:35it's funny you say that i grew up with

0:10:36my parents weren't that into music my

0:10:38dad actually is from the pretty rock n

0:10:40roll era so he has no no connection to

0:10:44actual modern music and my mom was a

0:10:47high school student 50 so she kind of

0:10:49got it and but the station listened to

0:10:51was like this weird am stationed in San

0:10:53Francisco that played like the giants

0:10:55baseball games were on there and they

0:10:57were like guys doing funny voices and

0:10:59comedy sketches and then adult

0:11:01contemporary songs

0:11:02I haven't I have energy like no can be

0:11:06our before it became an all sports

0:11:08station and I have an encyclopedic

0:11:10knowledge of some of the worst music of

0:11:13the nineteen seventies and early

0:11:15eighties because you know it's Starland

0:11:18Vocal Band afternoon do not delight whoo

0:11:21boy I know that one backward forward

0:11:23that it took me until it was it was

0:11:25until i was in high school before I

0:11:27realized all these songs that I thought

0:11:28were great were actually buy one band

0:11:31called The Beatles I knew what I knew

0:11:33the songs but had no knowledge of this

0:11:35only so I I hear what you're saying

0:11:37Scott that's in strange they might be

0:11:39giants a little bit of the graduation

0:11:40bandits one of the first bands where you

0:11:41claim it if you're the right age which

0:11:43apparently is from roughly 30 years to

0:11:46roughly in your forties is it's the band

0:11:48you go like oh that's the band that is

0:11:50of my time even if it's weird you know I

0:11:53was in college in 1991 flood came out

0:11:55and i totally missed it and i have no

0:11:56idea how that happened

0:11:58that was when they were popular you

0:11:59probably just regarded them as no no it

0:12:01was a land college campus it was the

0:12:03perfect place i have no idea my I feel

0:12:05like my college underground music store

0:12:09let me down by not saying son by this

0:12:13flood thing by this now my wife's elvis

0:12:16costello in college there's a slight

0:12:17digression but it was all that same time

0:12:19he was touring in the first half he do

0:12:21this thing we started a lot of your

0:12:23favorites and whatever and kind of

0:12:25wasn't great was a fine show and then

0:12:26everybody left the people who stayed he

0:12:29sort of got rid of all the fat boys he

0:12:30brought the great we love songs and

0:12:32spinach and play whatever came up you

0:12:34know people come up and spin his entire

0:12:36saga discography was that kind of time

0:12:39it's like people actually enjoy great

0:12:40colleges and playing two notes I mean

0:12:42now it's all there wasn't commercial

0:12:44them but they weren't making much money

0:12:45then it's all different time but it was

0:12:47also time when you could have like they

0:12:48might be giants all these groups that

0:12:50even if they are relatively popular to

0:12:51go to college campuses they get you know

0:12:53hundreds and hundreds of people out

0:12:55there Philip the football stadiums or

0:12:58the auditorium or whatever it was some

0:13:00was fun time

0:13:02go on I know what you're thinking I know

0:13:03what you're thinking you're thinking

0:13:04wait a minute i still don't know how Lex

0:13:07got introduced today when yeah I wasn't

0:13:08exactly thinking that but now you

0:13:10mentioned iamcurious you tell us- by

0:13:13virtue and benefit of my

0:13:15age i was introduced to the moment a

0:13:18much younger age then for example Jason

0:13:21my first cassette of they might be

0:13:23giants was actually any legally dubbed

0:13:25copy this was curly file-sharing folks a

0:13:28lot of copy that my sister I have two

0:13:31sisters my older sister am who was five

0:13:34years older than I am had gotten this

0:13:36tape from a friend in school so I got a

0:13:38dub of Abby's dub and one side of the

0:13:41tape was flood and the other side of the

0:13:43tape was the self-titled debut they

0:13:46might be giants album and I just I wore

0:13:49it out i listened to that tape over and

0:13:51over again so much so that I literally

0:13:52wore out the tape and so using those

0:13:55media that existed that you can wear out

0:13:57over time by using this it is true and

0:14:00so I the the what's true for me in my

0:14:02fandom of any kind of entertainment

0:14:05source whether it's TV shows or books or

0:14:07music is that whatever music or TV or

0:14:10whatever I like I have to like

0:14:12obsessively and III become a complete so

0:14:15the first musician that I really loved

0:14:17as Jason already alluded to was weird al

0:14:19yankovic and you know what I think

0:14:23separates will get too weird elegant

0:14:25little bit later perhaps but what I

0:14:26think separates they might be giants and

0:14:29even weird al is not just you know

0:14:32especially they may be times it's not

0:14:33just the the topics they sing about the

0:14:35fact that you know it's the their name

0:14:37implies especially are not going for

0:14:39humor in most of their music but it's

0:14:41the the fact that what separates them is

0:14:44that they take the musicianship the

0:14:46music part of it just as seriously as

0:14:48they take the lyrics and I think to me

0:14:51that's you know so there's you can

0:14:53listen to their coming to take me away

0:14:54you could take well there's some funny

0:14:55lines in there you can listen to a lot

0:14:57of the stuff dr. mental place and feel

0:14:59that way but meant much of it is not

0:15:01realistic able because the musicality

0:15:03just isn't there and I think that's

0:15:04where they might be giants really set

0:15:05themselves apart and I think even when I

0:15:07was you know I don't know 19 might be is

0:15:09so I got the tape 1991 so I was 11

0:15:12even at 11 years old I was appreciative

0:15:14of the fact that this was something you

0:15:15could listen to over and over again and

0:15:17it didn't wear out its welcome it just

0:15:18wore out the tape itself i think you

0:15:20bring up a great point is I think that

0:15:21was the that was the difference between

0:15:23they might be giants maybe other your

0:15:25mission say that a lot of novelty

0:15:26actually actually we're pretty fine

0:15:27musicians but they really were trying

0:15:29to be silly your infantile or should get

0:15:32a rise of trying to see it was by roll

0:15:34back in the you know 60 seventies

0:15:36eighties when people were exchanging

0:15:37tapes they could sell 45 and record

0:15:39stores and the whole thing like they're

0:15:41hoping to get like I'm gonna get a

0:15:42grandma got run over by a reindeer thing

0:15:44and sell a million copies over Christmas

0:15:46and that's how I'm gonna make my money

0:15:48and in that was a different thing than

0:15:50these guys building richly later music

0:15:52even with just the two of them and you

0:15:54know some drum sander drum crab

0:15:58synthesizer and other stuff they they

0:16:01can sing in so many different styles

0:16:04it's kind of like Weird Al and I don't

0:16:05think I felt like I didn't realize this

0:16:07with we don't feel much weight very late

0:16:09in his career the two guys John

0:16:11Flansburg and John well the John's who

0:16:13front the band they could have been pop

0:16:17stars i think if they wanted to in some

0:16:19way like I think they wrote songs that

0:16:21sound practically like the Beatles and

0:16:22then that is fine and refined whatever

0:16:24that quite as catchy but they could have

0:16:27chosen a different route than this one

0:16:28and this is the one that their music and

0:16:30interest

0:16:31welcome to is to be you know super geeky

0:16:33and funny and also you have to like was

0:16:36it john munoz that side project was the

0:16:3850 states that ever listen to all the

0:16:39songs state songs dance songs yeah his

0:16:43side effort what I've been told so

0:16:44perhaps you're interested where I

0:16:45learned about they might be giants maybe

0:16:47yes Glenn oh yeah tell us

0:16:50I was different so i was i was a hundred

0:16:53years old in 1986 and I'm sorry

0:16:55acquisition college in nineteen eighties

0:16:57and UK market their first album on a wax

0:16:59cylinder it was it Mel Thomas Edison

0:17:02delivered itself states he said that we

0:17:04played on my victory in the omaha this

0:17:06marvelous new recording by these

0:17:08gentlemen they must be Giants they've

0:17:10birthday must be giants at the time they

0:17:13were just average height so a friend of

0:17:15mine who is the most interesting person

0:17:18I'd probably ever met in college later

0:17:20became an editor of the at the Village

0:17:22Voice and wrote a fascinating novel that

0:17:24I think called personal days that

0:17:26reflects everything I knew about him in

0:17:28college

0:17:28he's like hey I bet you like this group

0:17:30they're called they may be Giants that i

0:17:32was like i like the name just I like the

0:17:34name to start with I'd seen the george

0:17:35scott film which is

0:17:37very peculiar and he takes me to some a

0:17:40record store with with actual vinyl

0:17:42recordings and we purchased such an item

0:17:44and that was it i believe i did buy

0:17:46their first album I think it was they

0:17:49may already have had a Lincoln might

0:17:51already been out but i believe i bought

0:17:52the very first they might be giants and

0:17:54self-titled album but then that was

0:17:57great when flood came and remember

0:17:59coming out and going oh this is so much

0:18:01its better produced it's richer it's

0:18:02like it's a bigger thing with the same

0:18:04thing and then Apollo 18 which I felt

0:18:07terribly became something quite

0:18:09different less silly there's like there

0:18:12was a narrative continuity in the song

0:18:13they made sense for once but anyway so I

0:18:15feel like I didn't discover them by

0:18:17simply just turned out of the really

0:18:18early on and I've got this you know

0:18:2025-year history with them now but they

0:18:24don't know me a bit i haven't Jason I've

0:18:25never met them either

0:18:26ok there are no connection to them

0:18:28whatsoever it's funny that it came up

0:18:32the idea that they went chose to go

0:18:33another direction and not be pure sort

0:18:36of like straightforward pop but had this

0:18:38kind of quirky element I feel like it's

0:18:41a John Henry was controversial but I

0:18:43their next album factory showroom I felt

0:18:46like verged on being a completely

0:18:48straight mainstream Rock Album not quite

0:18:50but so close that I felt like I expected

0:18:53their album after that to just be a

0:18:55regular rock album and instead what

0:18:58happened is they went back to being

0:18:59crazier and Kiki or a nerdier they went

0:19:02the other way was like you know know

0:19:04know this song is too straightforward we

0:19:06can't have that we need to step it back

0:19:08not i just went away in there Jason I

0:19:10believe because you know i have had this

0:19:11conversation that factory showroom is is

0:19:14another one of your favorite they might

0:19:16be giants album yes but it's so funny to

0:19:19me to hear you say that you thought that

0:19:21one was there you know more mainstream

0:19:23Rock effort i mean i think there are

0:19:25some some real hard rock song real hard

0:19:27is not really reacted with some you know

0:19:29real intense rock songs like till my

0:19:30head falls off there when you think

0:19:32about tracks like exclusive dead guy or

0:19:34metal detector xec vs animated or james

0:19:36k polk or I can hear you

0:19:39which are you know make up half this

0:19:40album down I don't like it any sense you

0:19:43could say this is a rock out many of

0:19:44these tracks are a performance pieces

0:19:46yeah but i had his pet name not about a

0:19:48straightforward as they've ever been in

0:19:49New York City is that not about

0:19:51straightforward several new york city is

0:19:53a cover this capital that they do love

0:19:55doing the covers and I i agree with you

0:19:57there but your pet name I think I mean I

0:19:59love pet name it I would you know we can

0:20:01get into this too but I happen to my end

0:20:04up being more of a lil song fan the

0:20:06flames of birdsong family list my

0:20:07favorites is it always leaves lanell but

0:20:10cracking the favorites list from

0:20:12Flansburg is always going to be pet name

0:20:14and I don't think it's straightforward i

0:20:15mean i think that you know musically

0:20:17sonically maybe it's a little bit

0:20:18straightforward but lyrically it's it's

0:20:20not a pop song you can listen to the

0:20:21radio and say I know exactly what's

0:20:23happening in this song it's especially

0:20:25the verses progressive we get into cats

0:20:27cradle and where God me it's very I

0:20:29think subtle isn't leading the NL your

0:20:31tribute band name

0:20:33yeah where it is now right Eileen john

0:20:37henry st each other you know I'm gonna

0:20:39tell you honestly I couldn't tell you

0:20:40which I'd ever look at those credits for

0:20:42these guys

0:20:43whether its plans for early now I know

0:20:45there's different kinds of things things

0:20:46that right but yeah well sort of yeah i

0:20:48mean that's the thing too is they have

0:20:50like some might actually my favorite

0:20:52they might be giants memory is not

0:20:53seeing them live which i saw i think

0:20:55only see them once at the Showbox in

0:20:57seattle classic venue where the smoke is

0:21:00so thick it was in the space looking

0:21:01smoking clubs days that I almost

0:21:03couldn't see them on the stage from

0:21:05across a very small but states but they

0:21:08were terrific they're actually such good

0:21:10performers live that it was slightly

0:21:12disappointed as I hoped they would be

0:21:13more spontaneous but very tight and they

0:21:15they delivered but my favorite memory is

0:21:18watching them when Apollo 18 came out

0:21:20they want the jay leno show and they

0:21:22performed with my favorite singers are

0:21:25sit straw the tall strange woman who was

0:21:27on adventures of pete and pete just a

0:21:30terrific fasting singer with interesting

0:21:31voice and she sang they saying the lion

0:21:34sleeps tonight

0:21:35silver spaceship and which is a weird

0:21:37song in any guitar with that all the

0:21:41good times all the guitar Glenn it's

0:21:43called let him host this podcast i was a

0:21:46clerical error

0:21:47I don't know who wrote any of the songs

0:21:49I don't know what you don't know the

0:21:52names of the sound perfect i was singing

0:21:53your favorite memory is not seeing them

0:21:56live

0:21:58but i have lunch with their producer

0:22:02allocation I'll get you LT so the so

0:22:06they're performing the song it was

0:22:07slightly a tune because you know the

0:22:09monitors don't always work in studios UC

0:22:12Santa live it's often whatever say sing

0:22:13this song and the cover letter and he's

0:22:15looking at them like who the hell but

0:22:17these guys I don't know what that world

0:22:18so he says

0:22:20so I you guys like sports it was like if

0:22:24in Letterman that would have been funny

0:22:26but letter just had no they just SAT

0:22:28there and sort of series each other made

0:22:30adultery conversation to linocuts single

0:22:32for a commercial but it was like he did

0:22:34not get em one bit not a superpower me

0:22:37surprised yeah exactly but they were

0:22:39booked because they were popular at that

0:22:41exact moment in time they were popular

0:22:43enough to be considered and then booked

0:22:44on the jay leno show whatever it was

0:22:47called at the time the tonight show

0:22:48perhaps I don't know the show jay little

0:22:51shouldn't host GRE look it's whatever

0:22:53show it was it was the right I believe

0:22:54it was the conan o'brien show featuring

0:22:57a letter

0:22:58I you know I i have it's not guilt but

0:23:00there's a tiny sense of shame for me

0:23:02even participating in this podcast only

0:23:04because I feel like especially in my

0:23:07even younger years they might be giants

0:23:10help me develop was probably my worst

0:23:12habit as a friend who wanted to share

0:23:15music which was I was that guy when I

0:23:17wanted to play know the the newest

0:23:19greatest they might be trying to track

0:23:20from whatever the new out was for

0:23:22friends who were perhaps less fond or

0:23:24less familiar with the band was it but

0:23:26you gotta listen just listen to this

0:23:28next year you know just listen to what

0:23:30happened seriously because act to me you

0:23:32know for some songs when you're

0:23:34listening to the beatles whom you know

0:23:36they may be guys themselves have cited

0:23:37as a strong influence i guess every

0:23:39decent band has that's a good influence

0:23:42you know you can hear it though you can

0:23:43hear the beatles in the lyrics and the

0:23:45OGG certainly can what do you think

0:23:47about something like I wanna hold your

0:23:48hand I think you're okay by verse 2 if

0:23:51you check out a little bit and just

0:23:52start you know appreciating the sound

0:23:54and aren't paying attention but when

0:23:55you're in that they might be giants song

0:23:56you want to pay attention at least I

0:23:58want to pay attention to what's

0:24:00happening lyrically 1 verse 2 comes

0:24:01around and whatever else comes around

0:24:03because there are no wasted words and

0:24:05everything they're saying is important

0:24:06to that song and I was like you know you

0:24:09have to be quiet listen to standing in

0:24:10my car where they tore down the girl

0:24:12just wait for the next line to make room

0:24:14for the torn down garage

0:24:16okay so yeah just needlessly obsessing

0:24:18over each individual lyric I feel that I

0:24:21do and I I feel a little bit of shame

0:24:23about well you know I want to ask you

0:24:25guys I think I made this comment I

0:24:27didn't make this coming earlier I

0:24:28haven't forgotten yet which is that I

0:24:29you know the first couple albums the

0:24:31eponymous album eponymous debut album

0:24:33and Lincoln we're really i would say

0:24:36their nonsense song for the songs had

0:24:38less intentional meaning in what should

0:24:41we say they're a little more like almost

0:24:43stream-of-consciousness you know just

0:24:46things that was a

0:24:47stream-of-consciousness more like

0:24:48subconscious thinking like that thing

0:24:50when you're half-asleep and kind as the

0:24:52unconscious is like you're half asleep

0:24:54and these things connect like I you know

0:24:58purple to pay our countdown going down

0:25:00to count on the counter friends with me

0:25:02they live beneath the ocean live need to

0:25:03see of course the cows do great

0:25:05it's just things like you're almost

0:25:06you're just nodding off to sleep and it

0:25:08makes sense then and then its culture

0:25:10killed my dog and I don't have enough

0:25:12air they'll need to shoehorn with teeth

0:25:14you know I want to shoehorn stepped on

0:25:16my teeth it's just this clock

0:25:18I want to apologize to our they may be

0:25:19Giants who are you were so upset at

0:25:23Glenn's butchering the lyrics of this

0:25:25song

0:25:25wait what am I saying so you sing it

0:25:27what is that every everything you do is

0:25:30better hide with he started the door he

0:25:33would get what beat i was eating their

0:25:36beliefs are very good too or no access

0:25:39respiration skating like the leaves

0:25:41oh gosh i did not realize how hard this

0:25:44job was Jason and so I took it off and I

0:25:48don't want the world glad I just want my

0:25:50half due to so from this guy you know

0:25:55now I was gonna make up the lyrics

0:25:57remember to myself don't think my god is

0:26:01going to host the podcast play with us i

0:26:05think that it would you mind if i write

0:26:06and green magic marker on the back of

0:26:08your head right now Jason because you

0:26:10know so between they might be giants

0:26:14eponymous debut and Lincoln yes with

0:26:16flood they got into more narrative stuff

0:26:17and I think Apollo 8 even more so

0:26:19there's actually a stitched on the story

0:26:21i mean their stories in the first two

0:26:22albums but i think they didn't become

0:26:24like true

0:26:24contains storytellers until later apollo

0:26:2718 is famous for a you know annoying

0:26:30people who shuffled because they realize

0:26:32there is that too

0:26:33absolutely just which makes absolutely

0:26:34no sense but is my favorite part of

0:26:36Apollo 80mm at least you're saying the

0:26:39fingertips the song makes no sense

0:26:41I i think it makes little sense see you

0:26:44know I'm gonna talk at two sides of my

0:26:46mouth which is a parlor trick I learned

0:26:48you know I think there is respect once

0:26:50okay this that you know there's a

0:26:52tendency and this part of what am I you

0:26:54know when my early internet time was

0:26:57spent on forums either discussing weird

0:26:59LOL where they might be giants and you

0:27:01know there was this tendency then and

0:27:02still now to to analyze everything might

0:27:04be giants long ago for what's the

0:27:06interpretation what's really happening i

0:27:07think that probably in my mind at least

0:27:09that starts because of their first I

0:27:11think one of their first major singles

0:27:13birdhouse in your soul whose lyrics are

0:27:15not it's not obvious to many listeners

0:27:17who liked the song what it's about if

0:27:18they don't spend the time to actually

0:27:19look we're really pay strict attention

0:27:21to the lyrics so then every song of

0:27:23theirs gets over analyze and you know

0:27:25you have a baby died saying you know

0:27:26most of the time we don't have deeper

0:27:27meaning you know when people are

0:27:28learning about this lyric it's because

0:27:30it fit the song nicely there or arrived

0:27:32at the regular price but it is a

0:27:34different thing between it the song

0:27:36having to make some coherent sense that

0:27:37you can decode and they're being a story

0:27:40in the song and I think osher the story

0:27:42was a very small story like both of car

0:27:44is a crate I Love Boat of car but it's

0:27:46like it's almost indecipherable what the

0:27:48story is and there's sort of using

0:27:50language not tell the story but to tell

0:27:52you there is a story there

0:27:53I think that's there when you get into

0:27:55flood and Apollo 18 i think more so and

0:27:58there's there is an actual narrative

0:27:59they're telling within many not all of

0:28:01the songs where paints all you know it's

0:28:03it's a world they create briefly and

0:28:04then destroy no I think that's fair but

0:28:08i would just say even though i think

0:28:09that it's easy to overanalyze they might

0:28:11be giants songs that I feel that

0:28:13fingertips actually does tell a story

0:28:15well you pick that is your favorite song

0:28:18so you don't get a talk about anything

0:28:19that's fine because I'm cutting you off

0:28:23I'm cutting you off friedman because we

0:28:26talked in this episode we're planning

0:28:27this episode about that a little more

0:28:29focus where each picking a song that we

0:28:31like and we'll talk about it

0:28:32like I want you to go first because i

0:28:34just cut you off and lets you picked the

0:28:36Mesopotamians unless i'm pronouncing

0:28:38that wrong no you nailed it

0:28:40oh it you know it to me there without a

0:28:44security what album is it from her that

0:28:46I'm sure well the Mesopotamian else is

0:28:48on the else that's exactly right 20,000

0:28:51that somebody has done their homework

0:28:52left like somebody has been the pedia

0:28:54really open front of them yeah sadly

0:28:56wikipedia just include lyrics you don't

0:28:59even wikipedia you just need TM bTW this

0:29:02might be a wiki which is the variable

0:29:04source for they might be giants wiki

0:29:06information that's where the real fans

0:29:08come tmw dotnet you've got your lyrics

0:29:10your interpretations your song facs

0:29:12analysis and all that but so the

0:29:14Mesopotamians I like on 800 levels and i

0:29:17think that the reason i picked it for 75

0:29:21cows our podcast the reason i picked for

0:29:23this podcast is because i truly think I

0:29:25mean it is up there nine children focus

0:29:28songs it has to rank in the top ten

0:29:30nerdiest they might be giant songs it

0:29:33works out a lot of levels first you've

0:29:34got the the historical level you know

0:29:36he's Jenelle who wrote and sings the

0:29:38song you know is talking about the

0:29:41Mesopotamia and he's citing Sargon

0:29:44Hammurabi oxygen bond appalling

0:29:45Gilgamesh you very rarely feature i

0:29:47think of popular music I can't name a

0:29:50many other songs with offshore Barbara

0:29:52Calif specifically asked but so you've

0:29:55got that element and you've got a very

0:29:56strange as that when you listen to the

0:29:59song you've got a very strange sort of

0:30:00temporal anomaly happening at the song

0:30:03because there clearly living in

0:30:04Mesopotamia in the time of Mesopotamia

0:30:07yet they're driving around in there

0:30:08econoline van as they tour from town to

0:30:10town in their band so you've got all

0:30:13that happening which i think is

0:30:14interesting and then you've got this

0:30:15note first that the band has a sort of

0:30:19theirs discontent within the band at one

0:30:21point where you know he's not going to

0:30:24share his gun with one of the members of

0:30:25the band because he said his haircut was

0:30:28poor and then you've got a whole Beatles

0:30:30Paul is dead reference where they're

0:30:32singing you know I thought that you were

0:30:33dead I thought you crashed your car and

0:30:35he's no man I've been right here this

0:30:36whole time playing bass guitar it's it's

0:30:39it's it's a mean the song is bizarre

0:30:41there is no other band that could ever

0:30:42have written that song I don't think you

0:30:44can say that about every day might be

0:30:45giants song

0:30:45I'm confident that with the

0:30:47Mesopotamians and I think you know it's

0:30:49it's also i think just musically very

0:30:51interesting and it's starting i think

0:30:54around i don't know 2004-2005 john

0:30:57linnell started writing songs more often

0:31:02that didn't require in his mind a

0:31:04standard verse chorus verse chorus verse

0:31:06chorus pattern and know when you listen

0:31:09to Mesopotamia is it doesn't sound like

0:31:10it's you know a crazy contract that's

0:31:13weaving in and out of all sorts of

0:31:14different sections but when you if you

0:31:16pay strict attention to it it's it's

0:31:18very crazy the way all that works

0:31:19together there isn't a standard

0:31:21first-force pattern at all and I don't

0:31:23know it's I think it's musically great i

0:31:25think it's clearly great it's it's I

0:31:26love it

0:31:27let's pretend to listen to a little bit

0:31:29of it right now hey man

0:31:47[Music]

0:31:52and

0:32:03[Music]

0:32:17I'm gonna pick Scotland's got you picked

0:32:21one of my favorite songs i almost picked

0:32:23it but you did so I'm letting you have a

0:32:24exquisite dead guy but i guess some

0:32:27rotating in his display case it is from

0:32:31factory showroom is it not yes yes it is

0:32:35a program i thought i had turned to

0:32:38glare do one point I think we were all

0:32:40picking songs from factory showroom

0:32:42sometimes the way to land the plane

0:32:44kicked i picked 12 and led kicked me out

0:32:47and we're going to choose something else

0:32:481996 yeah actually showroom is a very

0:32:52strong album you know that has many

0:32:55fantastic songs on it I think squid

0:32:58squid a dead guy is the best

0:33:00they might be giants on on that album

0:33:02because it is kind of odd how it is

0:33:08short

0:33:09it has very few lyrics it's very

0:33:11catching make sure thang who is this

0:33:13exquisite dead guy

0:33:14are they talking about I don't know let

0:33:18in or Jesus recording or recovery or are

0:33:23they just talking about the exquisite

0:33:25corpse writing game

0:33:27who knows beautiful harmony harmony it's

0:33:31true and if they mention a skyhook which

0:33:33i'm not sure what it is but I like it

0:33:35could you picture that I picture the

0:33:37exquisite guy like sort of being flown

0:33:40under a helicopter from the sky look as

0:33:42always my images just being suspended

0:33:44rotating flying through the sky under a

0:33:46helicopter now but not everyone's

0:33:48opinion print that that could be it i

0:33:50don't know what's gonna hook it all have

0:33:52our I don't know exactly

0:33:54this is a the beauty of the song is it

0:33:57so short and yet so many possibilities

0:33:59there's very little instrumentation it's

0:34:00mostly just like I think there's a base

0:34:02and maybe a little bit of a very subtle

0:34:04drums but it's mostly just them singing

0:34:06we want to harp in the Oregon going into

0:34:09the leverage to the bridges what makes

0:34:10the song let's pretend to listen to the

0:34:12bridge right out my supposed to let you

0:34:15no way I feel about you

0:34:22[Music]

0:34:39ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop

0:34:44ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop ba-bop

0:34:50ba-bop and there we go that was good all

0:34:58right so that Scott continue pray

0:34:59continue

0:35:01that's it i'm a simple explanation of

0:35:04the songs only two minutes long how much

0:35:05kids to do I don't want to explain to

0:35:07talk about it for longer than the actual

0:35:09song is that's well apparently don't

0:35:11have that problem that they have with

0:35:13Star Wars so oh let's talk about

0:35:17exquisite dead guy all night

0:35:19well I i mean if you wanted to talk for

0:35:21an extra medicine is dead guy it's one

0:35:23of the name Abby Jones they might be

0:35:25giants songs that I put in that category

0:35:26of its it's a set-piece it's a

0:35:28performance art song in a way that you

0:35:31know some other songs on every car that

0:35:33doesn't make it better or worse but I

0:35:35feel like there are some and i think i'm

0:35:36in the minority opinion here because I

0:35:37think you all three if you really love

0:35:39the song whereas i merely like it you

0:35:42know there are songs that you can rock

0:35:44out to when you can just say I'm gonna

0:35:45put this on and whether i'm paying

0:35:47attention or not it's going to make my

0:35:48day better by virtue of my listening to

0:35:50it but exquisite dead guy to me is a

0:35:52song that one rocks out to revenge have

0:35:54to it's a song that you experience each

0:35:55time displayed because it's like it's

0:35:57theater in a song i agree with that

0:35:59actually it's not

0:36:00I I wouldn't although Scott is a

0:36:02handsome man i would not pick this is my

0:36:04close to my favorite from that album

0:36:07with some of my favorite songs are on

0:36:08but it's funny and I enjoy it and I

0:36:12recall my wife and I sing along to it

0:36:14the car every time it played and it's

0:36:17just fun it is a symbol nights

0:36:20interaction or something well it's it's

0:36:22I think it's that we don't know the

0:36:23skyhook is we don't know what's going on

0:36:25but it's all intriguing it's and it

0:36:28sounds good and it's it's catchy and I

0:36:29could dance to where I saw his mouth

0:36:31move so I and i'm going to take the next

0:36:35talk before I give it a sin which is

0:36:37another song from faction room because

0:36:40it's it's so darn catchy and this song

0:36:42is I'm gonna double-check the title in

0:36:44order to mark the bells are ringing

0:36:47write it as medicine i pricked

0:36:51called lossing twice daily but is it

0:36:55that called the dolls are bringing great

0:36:57fantastic song and so the reason I've

0:37:00always always like the Sun and sometimes

0:37:02when I just need like to get something

0:37:04out of my head i'll play this song

0:37:05because i think it's so catchy will

0:37:07chase other earworms away and it's it's

0:37:10a you know this talk is well let's

0:37:12listen to a little bit of it first

0:37:14doing it

0:37:16[Music]

0:37:24voices telling

0:37:25[Music]

0:37:42constructed a generation they probably

0:37:49by the way

0:37:52Congress

0:37:54baby

0:37:55[Music]

0:38:00and

0:38:03and so there's that great this recurring

0:38:04thing its exquisite guy has the has a

0:38:07pop on about up and up and up and up and

0:38:10up everything thing up and and the bells

0:38:17ringing has the bong bong bong bong

0:38:20bong-bong-bong bunk but i like the bells

0:38:23are ringing because it the first time I

0:38:25heard them like I've seen that

0:38:27science-fiction movie it it tells almost

0:38:29the entire structures like is an alien

0:38:31invasion people's minds are taken over

0:38:34there's a little tension that the girl

0:38:36you know this one woman it's this as a

0:38:38girl need

0:38:42[Music]

0:38:46shield from

0:38:55by hand

0:38:59p dude pays her staring

0:39:06it's just this is beautifully written

0:39:09little concise think it's as if someone

0:39:11said ok tell me an entire story about an

0:39:14event in you know 40 words can have a

0:39:17Twitter style competition

0:39:19oh it's it's basically invasion of the

0:39:21Body Body Snatchers except instead of

0:39:23aliens its consumerism and holiday

0:39:26holiday consumerism specifically which

0:39:28for this time of year seems appropriate

0:39:30I it is one of my favorite kind of

0:39:32oddball christmas songs in a way because

0:39:35it to me that's exactly what it is is

0:39:38you can't you cannot escape it it you

0:39:41will get you talk to your better ideas

0:39:43because I hear that I think this song is

0:39:44being about mind control but I don't

0:39:46think of its being about consumerism so

0:39:48where do you get the consumerism from

0:39:49what the great things about they may be

0:39:51Giants as they try to do rhythmically

0:39:52rich interesting things they do you know

0:39:54syncopation they do what do you call

0:39:57that effect with you it is it that

0:39:58syncopation it's a common response and

0:40:00you have like pop but we got two sets of

0:40:02voices working in alternation there is a

0:40:05musical term for it i don't recall the

0:40:07NK track singing the user in them anyway

0:40:10so they to our stuff that's very well

0:40:13it's very often when there when they

0:40:16want to they can be rhythmically complex

0:40:17harmonically complex they pull of things

0:40:21from world music some of which sound

0:40:24very obscure they'll use really bizarre

0:40:26instruments when I saw them live there

0:40:27like and the glockenspiel and bring up

0:40:29will you play the glockenspiel after

0:40:30this whole bit with a guy he comes and

0:40:32goes being and then it goes away with

0:40:34the clock it feels like Van baerle show

0:40:36and horn exactly right and you played

0:40:39the glockenspiel so they they like to

0:40:41play with instruments like to play with

0:40:43that and i think this song its there's

0:40:45aspects of minimalist music in it

0:40:47because you're a repetitive theme that's

0:40:48used the underlying components that

0:40:50supposed to create you in and i think is

0:40:52part of the whole musicality they bring

0:40:53but it's just like listening to it like

0:40:55singing along to it

0:40:56ok so Lex here's my answer to you about

0:40:58the bells ringing which is it is my

0:41:00interpretation of it i feel that the

0:41:01bells themselves are our I've

0:41:04interpreted that as being kind of

0:41:05holiday like bells and I feel like what

0:41:08they're what the people are doing is is

0:41:11shopping is is buying things it's it

0:41:15that's what the people miss you know

0:41:18they're trying to fulfill themselves and

0:41:20I

0:41:20I so that's how I've always read it is

0:41:22as interesting as a Christmas as a xmas

0:41:25on where Christmas bells and the

0:41:27compulsion to go out and buy things that

0:41:31Christmas is what what's happening

0:41:33the nice thing for me is that your

0:41:34interpretation can co-exist very kindly

0:41:36with mine so I it's it's it means it is

0:41:38mind control but I I view it as being

0:41:41through the reflection of sort of

0:41:42consumerism but i also like the science

0:41:44fictiony part of if you think about it

0:41:45was pure sci-fi where where they didn't

0:41:47have aliens come down there giant bodies

0:41:49take over us it's its bowels there's no

0:41:52explanation that off the tell stories

0:41:53one of the great things about I think

0:41:55music in general is that you can tell a

0:41:56story in such short strokes because the

0:41:59the music itself is supposed to make up

0:42:01and helps us paint the picture our head

0:42:02and the negative things like the bells

0:42:04ringing it's a-ok oral i don't care i

0:42:06don't know the details

0:42:07you got me drunk and hit the outro to is

0:42:10so great

0:42:11[Music]

0:42:22we have one more contestant dr. worm

0:42:26Jason you like dr. which is also i would

0:42:28have to say one of my many thousands of

0:42:30favorites of their songs

0:42:31dr. worm is from which album dr. worm is

0:42:34the I think only studio track on the

0:42:38entire damage one of the only studio

0:42:40taxon severe tire damage correct

0:42:43what's the other the severe tire damage

0:42:45theme is that what you're thinking

0:42:46well there's the severe tire damage the

0:42:48but there's also about me

0:42:52oh really weird bizarre at the very end

0:42:54right okay it's the only decent studio

0:42:58song will accept that you on the live

0:43:00album severe tire damage where they

0:43:01stick at studio track on the front of it

0:43:03in order to sell it to people who might

0:43:05not want otherwise by a they might be

0:43:08giants live album and so it'sit's track

0:43:12one and it's actually good album

0:43:14management good rare rare ish stuff on

0:43:17there that I like in the end the live

0:43:19stuff too but and this is truly horrible

0:43:22disappears because because although my

0:43:24favorite my favorite I think bar none

0:43:27they might be giants on his metal

0:43:29detector and the geeky song that I

0:43:30wanted to talk about is spiraling shape

0:43:33also from factory showroom client has

0:43:36instructed me to talk about dr. work dr.

0:43:38worm is great because it is it is nerdy

0:43:41but it's music nerdy and I think one of

0:43:43the interesting things about they might

0:43:45be giants there are a lot of musicians

0:43:46who are who are our geeky but their

0:43:49music geeks because they're musicians

0:43:50right and they might be giants does both

0:43:52and cut has sort of strange stories

0:43:55about you know strange people or things

0:43:57that was about science or science

0:43:59fiction concepts dr. worm is none of

0:44:01those dr. worm is about a a diluted

0:44:04drummer or a an up-and-coming drummer

0:44:07he's invented a stage name and he's very

0:44:10enthusiastic about it that he says call

0:44:12me dr. worm

0:44:13good morning how are you I'm dr. when he

0:44:15gets to rehearse sort of who he is under

0:44:18his stage name and the rest of the story

0:44:20is essentially how much he loves playing

0:44:23the drums and he wants you to come in

0:44:25and I've lee i left the door unlocked

0:44:27because i can't hear the doorbell and

0:44:29playing the drums so loud

0:44:30come and tell me if you think I'm

0:44:32getting better with my with my drum

0:44:34playing and it's just it's

0:44:35it's very fast it's got the Bighorns and

0:44:38it and he's a doctor was very

0:44:40enthusiastic and there's some of the

0:44:43turns of phrase like both my kids

0:44:45they've been growing up will

0:44:47occasionally be focused on something

0:44:48very very peculiar and and minut that

0:44:51they'll focus on an intense detail

0:44:52because their children and trying to

0:44:54learn about it and my wife and i will

0:44:55just say to each other

0:44:57he's interested in things because that's

0:45:00the line and dr. were most interested in

0:45:02things I mention things i'm not a real

0:45:04doctor I am a real actual worm

0:45:07[Music]

0:45:16they call me dr good morning

0:45:21dr. war

0:45:23I'm interested in things I'm not

0:45:26dr. by

0:45:36I like to play the drums

0:45:39my

0:45:42I can

0:45:44this is

0:45:45show you what

0:45:50[Music]

0:45:56you need

0:46:00I'll so it's silly and yet it's got that

0:46:03the the it's got a a protagonist who is

0:46:07has this intense focus and is very

0:46:10enthusiastic about something and you get

0:46:11the sense that maybe he's not very good

0:46:13at it but he's very enthusiastic about

0:46:16it and that's why I that's why i put

0:46:18that on my list of they might be giants

0:46:19songs because I I like what it says that

0:46:22they're writing you know there were

0:46:23writing a song about a character like

0:46:25that who's got that intense enthusiastic

0:46:27focus on something right you never know

0:46:30if it's misguided or not you assume it

0:46:31is there's aspects of it makes you think

0:46:33maybe it's not maybe at this striving

0:46:35right he certainly put the cart before

0:46:37the horse in choosing his stage name

0:46:39while he's still practicing how to play

0:46:41and as somebody who who wants roomed

0:46:43with a guy with the drumset I i can

0:46:45there's a one side of a Led Zeppelin

0:46:47album that I know the entire drum part 2

0:46:49not the album itself i hear the album

0:46:51and I get sweaty because I know the drum

0:46:52part but uh so I know what it's like to

0:46:55be around a drummer who is enthusiastic

0:46:57but uh but yeah I assume he's not he's

0:47:02not great because he's asking if I he's

0:47:04getting better and he but yet he still

0:47:06chosen his stage name you've seen them

0:47:08perform that song live every day so I

0:47:09have in fact I saw him perform it up

0:47:11just a few weeks ago

0:47:13it's it's become a real concert staple I

0:47:15think because it's such a great stinking

0:47:17song it against the Fed the pace of it

0:47:20too i love how fast and and Pepe and

0:47:22it's gonna play faster live albums and

0:47:24my dear life a play day may be fast

0:47:27yeah they loved it so much I always you

0:47:30know I've seen them play that song with

0:47:31with some horns and I've seen them play

0:47:33that song where there's no for example

0:47:35there's no horse its weaker you know

0:47:37it's lyndell using his key that will sit

0:47:39inside some trumpet sounds and it's kind

0:47:41of better with the horns i agree i've

0:47:42seen it both ways but what I love about

0:47:44it is the lyrical improvisation might be

0:47:47too strong with the lyrical liberties

0:47:49they take with that's on both jobs when

0:47:52they performed live you know I've seen

0:47:53especially this that there's that spoken

0:47:55interlude the song you know but well

0:47:58it's it's sung in the song acapella in

0:48:00the recording but then it live very

0:48:02often i will start speaking there you

0:48:03know call me back to where I not real

0:48:08doctor

0:48:09I'm interested stuff and you know just

0:48:10as he starts you know playing with that

0:48:12I really enjoy

0:48:14and while he says he sometimes with my

0:48:16point here going on live from any

0:48:18changes your ex changes other and then

0:48:21they do that

0:48:22even better is at the end of the song

0:48:24you know they're supposed to just saying

0:48:25you know dr. were is the is the last leg

0:48:28of the song song and perhaps harmonized

0:48:30on but will very frequently i have found

0:48:33flip because I've seen them live at

0:48:34least two dozen times flavors really

0:48:36seeing extra background lyrics like you

0:48:38know i'm interested in things which is

0:48:40not what does not actually up here the

0:48:42original recording a song that always

0:48:43just kills we've seen them two dozen

0:48:46times at least yes astonishing

0:48:49oh as about I've seen twice yeah I've

0:48:52seen them once i got a rock so we should

0:48:56move on from this which is great tight

0:48:59around maybe the lightning round now

0:49:01yes if you guess wrong you're shocked by

0:49:04lightning that's how we play this game I

0:49:06like it

0:49:07that's like element of danger so Jason

0:49:11when you go first since you taking up

0:49:12the mantle we're going to talk about

0:49:13some other nerdy albums are so many I

0:49:15mean this is one of the things we have

0:49:16to do multiple podcast on the news we've

0:49:19talked about we talked about Paul and

0:49:20storm we talked about Jonathan Coulton

0:49:22we mentioned weird al yankovic and we

0:49:25will come back to moment but there are

0:49:27we could do entire podcast about some of

0:49:28these folks because they have such a

0:49:30huge ear visit discographies are

0:49:33enormous and but you want to talk about

0:49:34thousands of way in which i would say

0:49:36Jason I didn't think initially I was

0:49:38like after then exactly as a nerdy band

0:49:40and I mention this to my dad and it is

0:49:42so nerdy my dad listens to it so there

0:49:44you go there you go there you know if

0:49:45your dad listens to it but so you you

0:49:47picked the song your song pic yeah I

0:49:49went through a whole list of bands and

0:49:52different ways of you know you are there

0:49:56is a band of nerds but they write

0:49:58straightforward pop songs is it people

0:50:00who write about nerds that people who

0:50:02write nerdy things I each other lots of

0:50:05ways to define it and i went with

0:50:08fountains of wayne which is a power pop

0:50:10band and i love them and they're one of

0:50:12my favorite bands of all time because

0:50:15the songs they write they there's a

0:50:18whole it's about a third of the songs

0:50:20they write are these character songs

0:50:23they're there about these characters who

0:50:25are not the

0:50:27kind of people you usually have a you

0:50:30usually see in songs they usually have

0:50:32songs written about them and their sad

0:50:33sacks and they've got their obsessions

0:50:35and they've got their their interests

0:50:37that are our kind of the outsider e in a

0:50:42way that makes me feel like that's why I

0:50:44want to bring them up is that I I feel

0:50:46like they they kind of reflect something

0:50:48about the the geek experience of the

0:50:50outside or experience and and their want

0:50:54to choose from I know your dad mentioned

0:50:55hackensack which is a fantastic song

0:50:57it's also only 1i my creepy stalkers

0:51:00playlist got Stacey's mom he really like

0:51:02Stacy's mom which is a very very

0:51:04peculiar that's what we had a little bit

0:51:06of that that you can be started on this

0:51:08being a little nerdy to in the little

0:51:09stalkery but a song that i picked is a

0:51:11song called leave the biker which is

0:51:13from their first album which is the

0:51:14self-titled fountains of wayne which i

0:51:16think came out in like 96 something like

0:51:19that the nineties we check all the

0:51:21thousands of vici

0:51:22let me check films are yes please do he

0:51:25is your ear in New Jersey Lex so you are

0:51:27the hub this the home team for you i'm

0:51:29assuming there's a week II al4 we're

0:51:31Dallas yes of course it's the AL pedia

0:51:35so all the UH so for the first album and

0:51:40what I love about leave the biker is

0:51:42leave the biker structurally is is just

0:51:45it's not like other songs because it's

0:51:48not a love song its and it's not a

0:51:50breakup song we know those from pop

0:51:52music leave the biker the protagonist

0:51:54and leave the biker doesn't want the

0:51:56girl although he likes the girl the girl

0:51:58is every man's dream and he doesn't have

0:52:01the girl because he can't get the girl

0:52:04she's with the bike she's with the biker

0:52:06so there's this beautiful woman with the

0:52:08biker and the biker is big and mean and

0:52:12drunk and homophobic and slow a slob and

0:52:17this beautiful woman is with him

0:52:19so all the protagonist really wants he

0:52:21doesn't want the girl he doesn't want to

0:52:22ride off into the sunset with a girl all

0:52:24he wants with his body and soul as he

0:52:27focuses his like hate beam on the bar

0:52:30and the biker in the girl who are at the

0:52:32bar

0:52:32he just wants the girl to leave the

0:52:34biker and break his heart so that he can

0:52:36feel pain because he deserves it because

0:52:38he's a jerk and that there's something

0:52:40about that that

0:52:41that story and that feeling of like look

0:52:44I'm not going to get her she's beautiful

0:52:45she's every man's dream

0:52:47I just want him to feel a little bit of

0:52:50the pain that I feel in my life and if

0:52:53that doesn't say something about the

0:52:54kind of experience I don't know what

0:52:56does so play the bikers my choice i love

0:52:58off leave the biker let's listen to a

0:53:00little bit of that to give people a

0:53:02flavor for the front go in my place

0:53:07he's got leather and tattoos scars all

0:53:10over his face

0:53:13ask

0:53:15and

0:53:17[Music]

0:53:27special

0:53:28can't you see

0:53:29[Music]

0:53:34leave the biker and leave the biker

0:53:36break his heart

0:53:38please

0:53:39the biker leave the biker his five

0:53:42break his heart let's do Scott next

0:53:46Scott you picked interesting band Moxie

0:53:49for is sex or haha for multipurpose to

0:53:54the proven it's got an umlaut i'm going

0:53:56to use it up well I had a little bit

0:54:00just a little not for every way you can

0:54:02take the dots on the unbeatable service

0:54:07um you pick this band please tell us

0:54:09something with a span of which I knew

0:54:10nothing which is why you must tell us

0:54:13I'm not surprised I so much promise

0:54:16hails from Canada are they are kind of

0:54:20well they've broken up sadly but uh they

0:54:22were a pop folk kind of weird band I

0:54:28suppose arm and they had their first

0:54:31album which wasn't their demo but they

0:54:33had a demo and that led to their first

0:54:35album bargain ville which has a number

0:54:38of fantastic songs on it

0:54:40the one I picked as my favorite is my

0:54:43baby loves a bunch of authors in which

0:54:45chronicles the relationship between a

0:54:48man who wants to go out dancing and his

0:54:51baby wants to stay home and read all

0:54:53kinds of fiction and if you did they go

0:54:56to counseling and he hurts himself and

0:54:59go to the doctor and the doctor says

0:55:00I'll be with you as soon as I'm finished

0:55:02reading my book and he's very frustrated

0:55:04by this whole culture of people reading

0:55:05about finally go to a party but its

0:55:08authors night and so there are a bunch

0:55:11of authors there and the name of the

0:55:13song and they they saying about uh up a

0:55:16number of authors many Canadian and I

0:55:19like this song because it mentions

0:55:21Robertson Davies which made me go read

0:55:25everything that Robertson Davies rode up

0:55:27and he's a fantastic canadian author so

0:55:29check them out

0:55:30also dead but he has a giant beer so

0:55:33there's a joke about that the Sun

0:55:35[Music]

0:55:36am i still really baby you should hear

0:55:42the things that she says she says

0:55:44hundreds dead I better go to bed with

0:55:46Gabrielle see a market at eleven william

0:55:49s burroughs leave on the like bell hooks

0:55:52and flirting with burden because he's so

0:55:55smart in this book i like to go dancing

0:55:59maybe another bunch of Arthur's my heart

0:56:02broke and it's just sitting there doing

0:56:05some reading and so a moxie purpose a

0:56:09fantastic good time kind of upbeat band

0:56:14with lots of great songs and I have seen

0:56:18many times I mean I won't see them ever

0:56:20again since i since I don't think he'll

0:56:21be coming back together but if they do I

0:56:24will go to the reunion concert Scott

0:56:26since we both lived in Pennsylvania

0:56:27simultaneously for a while did you ever

0:56:29see them in king of pressure

0:56:30ah where were they playing in a gazebo

0:56:34yes I was that chance we have to make

0:56:37sure this God that is a bit easy when

0:56:41you stepped on that punk kid and told

0:56:43him to get lost that was yeah it was a

0:56:45little kid in the face up

0:56:47actually we're both simultaneously

0:56:48Punk's kids so you know you damn kids

0:56:52get off my lawn

0:56:53get off my nephew gobo exactly my gazebo

0:56:56that was a great concert they have a

0:56:57joke that was the start of their gazebo

0:56:59tour which I always found quite amusing

0:57:02I don't really understand why they're

0:57:04playing in the gazebo but I went it was

0:57:06felt as if you have the opportunity you

0:57:08do it is my thinking strip blacks we

0:57:12leave you for last

0:57:14I don't have another pic at this point I

0:57:15decided instead of making a podcast

0:57:17insanely long

0:57:18I would defer but next time but since

0:57:20you don't know anything about Kiki

0:57:21apparently I know nothing about Kiki

0:57:23music and never listen I don't actually

0:57:24photograph like her work so that as my

0:57:27fellow panelists know this was this is

0:57:28and i think this is true for all of us

0:57:30but this decision was you know very

0:57:32difficult 1i I was overwrought making

0:57:35this call because I i love so many gig

0:57:38bands out of the Act venture to say that

0:57:39there are very few bands like that

0:57:40wouldn't qualify as a nerdy bands of

0:57:42some sort but I did go at Jason strong

0:57:45urging with Alfred Matthew Yankovic

0:57:47better known by his stage name weird

0:57:49now and you know we had my first

0:57:54introduction to weird out that I

0:57:55remember was far from his first album

0:57:59Eno 1983 he's got his album in 3d with

0:58:04beat it on it but I you know I was three

0:58:08so I didn't really get into him for for

0:58:10several years until he next parody

0:58:11michael jackson which was a his parody

0:58:15fat and i saw i had known the michael

0:58:17jackson song bad and then I'm friend

0:58:19says you've got to check out this video

0:58:20and he didn't show it to me on youtube

0:58:21because it didn't exist yet but we

0:58:23waited for it to show up on MTV and we

0:58:24watch it we gonna wait for chad hurley

0:58:26to invent you to in order to like it

0:58:28took it took years no week so we watched

0:58:30this fat music video and I'm I'm history

0:58:33I think it's hysterical i'm cracking up

0:58:34i cannot keep myself together and I'm

0:58:37thinking to myself and this I I can

0:58:38admit this all of you because you were

0:58:40very close but you know for a moment

0:58:43there thing that was good that's funny i

0:58:45wonder why he didn't make a song called

0:58:47good because that seemed to me at the

0:58:49moment to be a better parent of a song

0:58:50called bad and it had been about

0:58:51somebody who's really good and it took a

0:58:53couple more i would I don't know who's

0:58:55months or years till my sense of

0:58:57appreciation for parity could really

0:58:58mature a bit more than that but you know

0:59:01the song that I have picked from Weird

0:59:03Al i think is certainly his nerdy song

0:59:06is the song white and nerdy a parent

0:59:08even not hugely popular rap song by a

0:59:10guy named Joe Millionaire called ridin

0:59:13the course of that song is trying to

0:59:15catch me ridin dirty and in Al's version

0:59:18of the song he's actually I think

0:59:19singing close to in the first person as

0:59:22himself which he doesn't usually do but

0:59:23he's saying you know he's having a hard

0:59:25time hanging out with the gangsters

0:59:27because they recognized that he is

0:59:29simply too white and nerdy

0:59:33go with friends for a while

0:59:40just do white nerdy singers 21 nerd and

0:59:43see my nerdy white

0:59:46[Music]

0:59:53just do white nerdy just too white nerdy

0:59:56just really really white

0:59:56just really really white

1:00:00mit skills opportunity nvm TS that's my

1:00:03favorite and cd40 outside have a great

1:00:05team i rinsed the contrary you'll find a

1:00:08different station they're all my action

1:00:10figures cherry stephen hawkings in my

1:00:12library my myspace page all totally

1:00:13pimped out got people looking for my

1:00:15topic spaces you know why you're

1:00:16thousand places still worth breaking my

1:00:20sandwich prevent your name with the

1:00:21minesweeper day you receive the same

1:00:24main central place in place until rabbi

1:00:27haven't grown at past yeah well I'm

1:00:28number one for calculus just bought from

1:00:30got it but I got a soldering gun happy

1:00:33things in my favorite things on the

1:00:34church but in a game of paint on the

1:00:36trivia quiz you bring on the loose and

1:00:38JavaScript smell of clean now really

1:00:42qualifies it as an organization in many

1:00:44ways especially because he himself is

1:00:46exceedingly nerdy but he graduated from

1:00:48high school valedictorian at age 16 he

1:00:52he had an architecture major that he was

1:00:54pursuing a caltech Paul at Cal Poly

1:00:56university and you know he he got that

1:00:58degree was thinking that was the job is

1:01:00going to go into but for all of his

1:01:02songs that he writes he he talks about

1:01:04the incredible homework that he puts

1:01:05into them i know people who write funny

1:01:07songs and they take 20 minutes and he

1:01:08takes you know weeks to put together

1:01:10many of the songs with notebooks you

1:01:11know he did a YouTube parody that was

1:01:13about dentistry and he's researching all

1:01:15sorts of dental terms and is no talking

1:01:17to Dennis and getting books from the

1:01:19library

1:01:19he talked though that for white nerdy he

1:01:22said that was one song I didn't need to

1:01:23do any extra preparation for is the one

1:01:25I was preparing for my entire life that

1:01:27he's actually a a remarkably

1:01:31accomplished musician and and and

1:01:36songwriter people who only know him from

1:01:39his parodies I mean most of his albums

1:01:40have original songs he wrote it he did a

1:01:43song that is still very funny but is not

1:01:47a specific parody of one thing called

1:01:49Velvet Elvis which is one of my

1:01:50favorites

1:01:51it is a it is every police song ever

1:01:55condensed into a single song and calls

1:01:58the style parody it's amazing it's just

1:02:00amazing and then he also does his polka

1:02:02medleys on every album which my daughter

1:02:05apparently told me about just the other

1:02:07day that she just she discovered and one

1:02:10of her teachers played one of them and

1:02:12she thought was hilarious because she

1:02:13wreck

1:02:13nice the modern songs i said oh honey he

1:02:16was doing that one when I was your age

1:02:18to which he said wow he's really old but

1:02:21uh but i love that the Polka medleys are

1:02:24in same to the the rolling stones hot

1:02:27rocks polka dots is insane it's so you

1:02:30know he's more than just just the song

1:02:33parodies and his song parodies are are

1:02:34artfully done but he's got a lot of

1:02:37other very clever very well written

1:02:40stuff that he does beyond just so he

1:02:42does have musical people accuse him of

1:02:44not having any musical invention at all

1:02:45and just being a clear assistants not

1:02:47trills oh yeah he's also involved in his

1:02:50elves are our original songs and you

1:02:52know i think it's it's hard times to get

1:02:54a sense of you know which upset with

1:02:57milk all of his albums are a mix of of

1:02:59parodies an original song so half of

1:03:01each album had his original music yeah

1:03:03it's it's tough sometimes to know what

1:03:06do what would an original al song sound

1:03:08like because so many of his originals

1:03:09are done is these past teaches the style

1:03:11parodies but I think if you're out there

1:03:14and you want to know what an original

1:03:16song sound like I think that skipper

1:03:18damn on his most recent album alpaugh

1:03:21collapse is a good place to look and

1:03:23potentially a song like Frank's 2000 HTV

1:03:26off the otherwise you know minimal and

1:03:29less subpar effort uh which is called

1:03:32it's got a Jurassic Park style cover is

1:03:35called alappuzha ah let's see you almost

1:03:38lost here I I wasn't worried about you

1:03:40before his name was incorporated in

1:03:42plans and every one of his albums but I

1:03:44i used to play on my high school radio

1:03:46station i used to play i'll be mellow

1:03:48when i'm dead so which is a which is a

1:03:51really really nice one and there's a

1:03:54city in the in the central valley on

1:03:57Interstate 5 called Kettleman city and

1:04:00every time we drive past it my wife and

1:04:03I cannot help but make reference to the

1:04:07jingle for spatula city from from it uhf

1:04:11a fine film starring weird al yankovic

1:04:13specialist city we sell spatulas and

1:04:16that's all this is this is the thing

1:04:19about about where Dallas not only is he

1:04:21a again another person could have been a

1:04:24mainstream

1:04:25talent in mainstream artists and

1:04:27probably very successful at it maybe in

1:04:29a very different way and he found his

1:04:31niche and is the biggest person in that

1:04:33niche so that's you know that's

1:04:34something remarkable but the other thing

1:04:36is I didn't know until he did the

1:04:38american american pie i'm calling the

1:04:41song the wrong man being our night the

1:04:43size of Egyptians saga begins Thank You

1:04:45the pair American five pattern on the

1:04:47Guardian Perry um I didn't know that he

1:04:49was handsome

1:04:50no one knew today I'm here to even have

1:04:52this hair head shaved or was where we

1:04:54gotta know his head so so he's got short

1:04:57hair

1:04:58he has no crazy mustache and he looks

1:05:00serious and then watch the video i'm

1:05:02like who is the guy doing weird al like

1:05:04oh my God he's a matinee idol like he's

1:05:07he's as beautiful as you McGregor and

1:05:10you're like I'm maybe I'm exaggerating

1:05:11but he's awfully good-looking guy and I

1:05:13was like how fascinating that like

1:05:15there's the amy sedaris who is a

1:05:18beautiful woman and in nearly every

1:05:20appearance she makes with exception of

1:05:22like elf I think the movie elf she is

1:05:24always distorting your face in some way

1:05:26to be ugly or her appearance and you

1:05:28like God we're now there's a lot of

1:05:31psychology there I'm sure but like he's

1:05:32a great singer he's a great musician

1:05:34he's handsome and he makes himself look

1:05:37super goofy and sings perry song is sort

1:05:39of fascinating he doesn't really well by

1:05:42the way I'm since the Glen mentioned

1:05:44that his dad has a has a song pick four

1:05:46fountains of wayne out i'll point out my

1:05:48my father-in-law loves Amish paradise

1:05:51found the iconic which is the only time

1:05:54that coolio song will ever be brought up

1:05:57on the biggest honorable hit in concert

1:06:00that song wasn't his biggest of all time

1:06:02was highest you know charting song but

1:06:04that song in concerts when he rides out

1:06:06when he comes you know it weird al

1:06:08concert sort of like shares the parking

1:06:10lots of costume changes and set pieces

1:06:13and you know he'll run off dancer some

1:06:14hot hands although that's part of his

1:06:16thing right is it like he's very highly

1:06:18produced two I mean that i right

1:06:20she was no doubt in that Amish beer

1:06:21though the people pictures go crazy

1:06:23that's hilarious if there were any

1:06:24criticisms i could let me guess we'd

1:06:26Allen there are and I could do this only

1:06:29because i love him i would say that I

1:06:31wish and it's who he is and how it does

1:06:33his business i wish you were slightly

1:06:34less formulaic I wish he didn't feel for

1:06:37example that every kind of his concerts

1:06:38or more

1:06:39like musical theater than like concerts

1:06:40in England you mentioned it much earlier

1:06:42in the show that they might be giants

1:06:44found were very tight i find that very

1:06:46loose it shows which I appreciate know

1:06:47they'll improvised they'll go off set

1:06:49list and they'll mess around

1:06:50oh that's funny i've i've only seen the

1:06:52one time because i was actually felt

1:06:54like I wasn't getting something

1:06:55sufficiently different than a studio

1:06:57recording so obviously i saw them in one

1:06:59of their tightest most atypical concerts

1:07:01and now I must go see them again but so

1:07:03Alice fields are scripted even the the

1:07:05word he speaks into the microphone are

1:07:07scripted you know he's got every moment

1:07:09you know his jokes and beets are all

1:07:12scripted and I don't like that I don't

1:07:15love that every single Allen's got to be

1:07:16five parodies five regionals are you

1:07:18know for apparently and the poem at like

1:07:20you know he experiment with the Polka

1:07:23Milian alappuzha where he does the poker

1:07:25that's just one song it's just bohemian

1:07:27rhapsody with the entire song focused I

1:07:29but you know I i wish that he could

1:07:31sometimes be a little bit less strict

1:07:33with himself and how he does his thing

1:07:35but I guess he has a process to work

1:07:37some chooses to stick with it so I can

1:07:39respect that even though i wish that he

1:07:40could sometimes you know flail a little

1:07:42bit more

1:07:43that is awesome that is awesome and I

1:07:45think we find ourselves at the end of

1:07:48another beautiful lovely evening of

1:07:51podcasting I'm sorry podcast take the

1:07:53place in an indeterminate period of time

1:07:55not evening or morning

1:07:57well so this was fun and we've got you

1:07:59know there's so much material with some

1:08:00right here so much Jonathan colon cancer

1:08:04we need to talk about pdq bach who in

1:08:07fact I think may have also been an

1:08:08inspiration he will be another another

1:08:11Peter sickly who I've seen live and just

1:08:15one sadly so far and pdq bach you know

1:08:18there's like that's even the or stuff

1:08:20but there's a lot more material to talk

1:08:22about so perhaps on a future podcast if

1:08:25we have popular requests will will come

1:08:27back and I think Jonathan Coulton

1:08:28deserves his own podcast almost

1:08:30certainly because of his current place

1:08:32in the pantheon of nerdy musicians in

1:08:36the success and because he is so

1:08:38stinking awesome

1:08:39well yeah the success he's found through

1:08:40this thing called the internet the

1:08:42Internet in a way that having a memory

1:08:44Giants and the weird al three data and

1:08:46they both made incredibly good use of

1:08:47and I think well maybe the Giants

1:08:49particularly but but you know Jonathan

1:08:51Coulton too

1:08:52and subject altogether 14 other times so

1:08:54i would like to thank our panelists this

1:08:56week

1:08:57thank you Scott for only mocking me

1:09:00every other time that's great thank you

1:09:03I do it I can't I know I know well next

1:09:05time you can install Oh Lex thank you

1:09:09for coming aboard

1:09:10I will never forgive you for making me

1:09:12pick just one they might be giants on I

1:09:13know that's you know that's the job of

1:09:15the host isn't it

1:09:16Jason smell thank you for being here at

1:09:18least he let you choose your song gave

1:09:21he gave me my third choice to follow one

1:09:24rule i'm interested in things yes thank

1:09:26you this

1:09:27thank you for hosting glad you're

1:09:29welcome and thank you for editing me out

1:09:31of the host when we let's go haha well

1:09:33that's the real where the real work

1:09:34happens is in post-production that's

1:09:37right you know the passengers are was

1:09:39balanced on this it's really the design

1:09:41of be yesterday a host the host is the

1:09:44ballast on the great Zeppelin that is

1:09:45being comfortable podcast is thrown

1:09:47overboard so until next time thank you

1:09:50dear listener the Spurs listeners for

1:09:52turning into the uncomfortable and we'll

1:09:54see you again soon

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