The Incomparable

68: Jedi Weekend


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  the incomparable podcast number 68 know [TS]

  going through 2011 [TS]

  welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

  when we last left you we were discussing [TS]

  with deep inside the discussion of the [TS]

  empire strikes back and we are going to [TS]

  press play on that conversation continue [TS]

  where we left off [TS]

  joining me for that conversation are the [TS]

  fall [TS]

  dan morgan hide and ready Jason I I [TS]

  didn't think I was gonna make it to the [TS]

  resolution of this cliffhanger and I'm [TS]

  I'm glad to be here and once again on [TS]

  frozen from carpet yes good good [TS]

  I thought you were going to make it [TS]

  either i see yeah it was it was [TS]

  especially for the for a while there [TS]

  John siracusa thanks for coming back to [TS]

  talk more and partnerships back i'm [TS]

  still ready [TS]

  excellent you always are ready I I [TS]

  appreciate that about you and serenity [TS]

  called well thank you for coming back to [TS]

  to join us on this on this ridiculously [TS]

  long discussion of this movie we're not [TS]

  actually going back into this podcast [TS]

  are we [TS]

  yeah yeah I got a bad feeling about this [TS]

  alright let's pick it up where we left [TS]

  off [TS]

  so so in the asteroid field they go the [TS]

  asteroid field and and there's more odds [TS]

  that are quoted i just want to mention [TS]

  this I i looted this to this earlier [TS]

  this is the i think second of three [TS]

  times in this movie where odds are [TS]

  quoted and you know I remember this from [TS]

  from the original Star Trek where mr. [TS]

  Spock would always quote the odds and [TS]

  the doctor McCoy would be grumpy grumpy [TS]

  about the odds and it struck me that [TS]

  that they do that same bit in this movie [TS]

  and they do it three different times [TS]

  where there's odd quoted but it in the [TS]

  middle of frantic scenes of other stuff [TS]

  that are going on I know it's just it [TS]

  struck me that that list maybe too many [TS]

  times I think I think it's just it's [TS]

  just the right number now so you get the [TS]

  first time the first time to you know [TS]

  like to Leia and Chewie to establish it [TS]

  now it's kind of sad right and then the [TS]

  second time is ridiculous right because [TS]

  they're in the middle of flying into the [TS]

  dam mast reveal and the third time is [TS]

  the shut up [TS]

  yeah right because the third time we're [TS]

  sick of it and it's not a robot would do [TS]

  but I'd it's what a robot would do or a [TS]

  Vulcan and in this section the movie [TS]

  speaking of Star Trek what you have [TS]

  yeah where he does a little maneuver and [TS]

  then the start of stories start coming [TS]

  too close to home and take evasive [TS]

  action and all the people in the Star [TS]

  Destroyer do the star trek yeah we [TS]

  really know what you mean against the [TS]

  word of a scrape against each other that [TS]

  you got that great great like girl [TS]

  yeah yeah it was just a ridiculous scene [TS]

  and it's kinda how do they not see each [TS]

  other coming right you're a giant [TS]

  frickin Star Destroyer no slow-moving [TS]

  and giant things but the reason I have [TS]

  to go into the starfield remember is [TS]

  that because their first their initial [TS]

  plans let's get the heck out of your [TS]

  jump to Lightspeed again telling [TS]

  everybody remember what the Millennium [TS]

  Falcon didn't star wars wasn't that cool [TS]

  i think we're gonna do it again and it's [TS]

  going to get them out of there and no [TS]

  you hit me with her okay we're [TS]

  withholding we have you I know you love [TS]

  that effect from the first moment for dr [TS]

  motivator is damaged [TS]

  it's impossible to go to light speed [TS]

  yeah right and you get that said sound [TS]

  and it's withholding from the audience [TS]

  because the audience once they're going [TS]

  to light speed and we expected but like [TS]

  okay this is enough of a daring escape [TS]

  you know you're on the edge of your seat [TS]

  right and your light speed will get out [TS]

  we'll be safe nope not today [TS]

  and-and-and to speak to you know this [TS]

  entire scene is possibly another one of [TS]

  my favorite just sort of this is my [TS]

  favorite set-piece i think in the movie [TS]

  is the asteroid that the Millennium [TS]

  Falcon pursuit right great music to [TS]

  great music perfectly choreographed the [TS]

  the effects are awesome [TS]

  even to this day these effects look more [TS]

  or less flawless to me like the way the [TS]

  falken like you know flips over and like [TS]

  just the the maneuvering and piloting of [TS]

  that ship or just it looks so cool to me [TS]

  when we finally have a reason for the [TS]

  falken shape and design i mean in the [TS]

  first movie okay the falken is shaped [TS]

  like a giant pizza and it's awesome but [TS]

  here we actually get to see oh hey it [TS]

  can go sideways it can go through [TS]

  asteroids it can outmaneuver tiny little [TS]

  Thai fighters and I wanted that of [TS]

  course is Han right like yeah he he is a [TS]

  great pilot and so you know i'll choose [TS]

  flying ship they're both flying working [TS]

  out to go to fight and I you know I in [TS]

  the disagree i love that whole scene you [TS]

  know there's the scene where he's trying [TS]

  to fix it right you know these mumbling [TS]

  all the all the you know that the babble [TS]

  right [TS]

  alluvial dampers and he's like crawling [TS]

  around i love those shots the slapstick [TS]

  of the tools falling on it yeah it walks [TS]

  and put that and then the you know I [TS]

  don't know how we're gonna get out of [TS]

  this one you know gets hit by the [TS]

  toolbox and then that wait that wasn't [TS]

  the shooter something hit us and then we [TS]

  get like oh crap it's again the constant [TS]

  so this is it's constantly getting worse [TS]

  right [TS]

  this is this is act to again we're back [TS]

  to that same idea oh well it's pretty [TS]

  bad because the you know you guys are [TS]

  charged Oh even worse the hyperdrives [TS]

  broken you know you're an asteroid field [TS]

  like Wright work it's one thing on top [TS]

  of another we're just gonna make it [TS]

  harder and harder and so you're kind of [TS]

  like you're on the edge of your seat [TS]

  you're you're following along time for [TS]

  like how the hell are they going to get [TS]

  out of this and you know in a in a movie [TS]

  where they were where this is the [TS]

  beginning of motion control and they're [TS]

  just kind of getting a handle on how we [TS]

  can make these model ships move around [TS]

  look interesting at some point in this [TS]

  asteroid thing according to the script [TS]

  they have to fly into what they think is [TS]

  a cave the Millennium Falcon doesn't fly [TS]

  into a cave the instead they take this [TS]

  money and Falcon model and it probably [TS]

  great time and expense make it through [TS]

  this graceful loop economy boomed music [TS]

  that also rises and falls in the end the [TS]

  scale as the beautiful what why would [TS]

  you do that that's it that's like an [TS]

  apple moment it's like you just supposed [TS]

  to have the ship flying to okay that's [TS]

  easy enough to get the cave get the ship [TS]

  get the camera setup move the thing [TS]

  through their ship flies into the cave [TS]

  and done you know it's gonna do a loop [TS]

  accompanied by music [TS]

  why because we care about how this movie [TS]

  looks at every single second [TS]

  well and not just that but that's the [TS]

  you know it's hard right like showing [TS]

  off a little like he's doing his thing [TS]

  like this is how we fought and i have to [TS]

  say like what I'm saying about the [TS]

  special effects before I I'm [TS]

  hard-pressed to think of a movie with [TS]

  CGI effects that I think looks this cool [TS]

  i don't know it just something about the [TS]

  model working in the knowledge in the [TS]

  the look of the thing that it looks real [TS]

  it's real to me in a way that CGI has [TS]

  never done over the rocks could look [TS]

  better in CGI but the ship could not yet [TS]

  the ship looks awesome I mean clearly [TS]

  that's painstaking detail right like [TS]

  that's a thing you know it's a thing [TS]

  that people have spent all their time [TS]

  crafting all these little details and [TS]

  gluing things on and carving things and [TS]

  everything in it and painting and it [TS]

  looks it looks like a real live thing [TS]

  and you know you see the other type [TS]

  fighters following trying to follow them [TS]

  and getting smushed and blowing up and [TS]

  everything and it's just it's perfect i [TS]

  love it i'm not perfect in its [TS]

  imperfections [TS]

  oh this is so it's like that looks [TS]

  pretty good [TS]

  let's play it nicely [TS]

  excuse me little party going [TS]

  you know what you doing hmm so I there's [TS]

  a muppet not so as he's as he's coming [TS]

  into databases will start the landing [TS]

  cycle and all I could think about even [TS]

  point of the kids like a washing machine [TS]

  has the landing cycle the drawing that [TS]

  right that's like a permanent press he [TS]

  crushes for the second time [TS]

  yes he's not he's not doing well as a [TS]

  pilot and not very good and I let you [TS]

  know he comes down and sunken ship in [TS]

  and then are two of course falls in and [TS]

  I can't help you know I kept thinking [TS]

  this time like man it's a good thing [TS]

  they really know what a waterproof those [TS]

  guys because if he dropped his frickin [TS]

  iphone and that's what I think yeah I [TS]

  wanted a void warranty on the second day [TS]

  gobo swamp water forget it arches a [TS]

  hearty little right we can literally use [TS]

  this might be a little bot you think oh [TS]

  my god you put out you put a electric [TS]

  thing in water oh no this is the end and [TS]

  say isn't interesting that they can get [TS]

  away with like so we had slapstick in [TS]

  the action scene with the toolbox and [TS]

  stuff like that and you have a little [TS]

  bit of it here but so he falls in and [TS]

  the whole thing is played for slapstick [TS]

  a little bit of drama with the thing [TS]

  eating it but it spits them out like if [TS]

  this is a slapstick comedy relaxation [TS]

  moment in the middle of it and otherwise [TS]

  action-adventure film and it works you [TS]

  don't question it you don't be like this [TS]

  is a strange mood and understand it all [TS]

  like somehow they make these transitions [TS]

  so well and it also comes across as not [TS]

  crass like so many the attempts at [TS]

  slapstick humor in the prequels do right [TS]

  yeah you know some so many those are [TS]

  like you know you get like the bantha [TS]

  poodoo jokes or whatever grace is [TS]

  bringing the plot forward to like he's [TS]

  he's on a planet he's crashed [TS]

  he's concerned about our to he's not [TS]

  familiar with this environment you know [TS]

  if putting them in more parallel [TS]

  destroyed half broken and filled with [TS]

  mud [TS]

  I like the parallel between ar2 why Luke [TS]

  saying to our to the verbiage like yes I [TS]

  think it's perfectly safe for droids and [TS]

  not five minutes later gets eaten by a [TS]

  big sea monster that was one of my [TS]

  favorite cuts to when he's on he's [TS]

  looking around he's like you know he's [TS]

  dubious about the just crash if he's got [TS]

  a straight-out is awful of everything he [TS]

  bends down is like damn and then the end [TS]

  of the scene is is r2 expelling a huge [TS]

  amount of mud from its flattered and [TS]

  Luke just rolls eyes and they do another [TS]

  circle wipe it's just it's like yeah [TS]

  that's pretty much where Luke is at this [TS]

  point is dried his spitting up mud [TS]

  he's white and mud off eventdata good [TS]

  plan [TS]

  yeah well arches all rendezvous point [TS]

  what did I tell you [TS]

  yeah after a quick cut away to Darth [TS]

  Vader strange office he's got a mug [TS]

  world's greatest Dark Lord's world's [TS]

  best afford yes yoda makes his first [TS]

  appearance and I find this is also funny [TS]

  because this is our you know Mitt [TS]

  it'sit's that they meet under under a [TS]

  misconception and like for being one [TS]

  that's a a and and he takes his food and [TS]

  there's actually a moment that i noticed [TS]

  watching at this time that i thought was [TS]

  hilarious is that is that he tries to it [TS]

  takes food from Luke and Luke takes it [TS]

  back and then he like looks at it and [TS]

  looks at it and throw yeah it doesn't [TS]

  yes creature touch this [TS]

  you're clearly not seeing this movie [TS]

  enough of you just noticed that hostel [TS]

  is a great scene i love that Luke [TS]

  Skywalker saying I think I wouldn't [TS]

  notice it and forgot it noticed again [TS]

  that just that you know and I I imagine [TS]

  he's like oh it's got Muppet stuff on [TS]

  that new toss toss it away [TS]

  hey oh yeah not getting the ship out [TS]

  this the sheer joy in Yoda in this scene [TS]

  right like the yoda knows that this is [TS]

  all right you know it's a task but he [TS]

  also knows that he's been watching Luke [TS]

  Wright he knows what he thinks he's [TS]

  trying to play to his weeks you know to [TS]

  to his flaws and vulnerabilities right [TS]

  in saying like you'll never assume that [TS]

  I am this you know great warrior [TS]

  whatever and so we'll see how he treats [TS]

  me if that's what he thinks and I just [TS]

  but i love that the glee that Yoda seems [TS]

  to take it i love the scene with him in [TS]

  the lamp right right and say that the [TS]

  thing about Yoda in an empire that at [TS]

  that the prequels their mere existence [TS]

  like I still reject their interpretation [TS]

  of yoda is that I grassi's this great [TS]

  Jedi warrior and yes this is a testament [TS]

  to put on and stuff like that but I also [TS]

  get the very distinct impression from [TS]

  this movie which no other movies will [TS]

  shake me have is that Yoda is kind of a [TS]

  goof like yeah he does have that playful [TS]

  nature and yet he when he's fighting [TS]

  with r2 over the lamp he thinks he's got [TS]

  the lamp in Detroit and yes you could [TS]

  crush him into a ball 10 with the force [TS]

  but in general is that he's like a [TS]

  good-natured goofy fun kind of guy not [TS]

  the horrible dour serious piece of crap [TS]

  cgi thing from the other three movies [TS]

  this is the yoga that I think of what [TS]

  you gotta love that little scene right [TS]

  where he gets the land looks like let [TS]

  him have it yeah you know are two poles [TS]

  is the arm back in any wax and one [TS]

  Marlins waxing with the cane and close [TS]

  the door on on the arm i love and you [TS]

  know speaking to the cgi abomination [TS]

  I I you will again with the same thing [TS]

  with the falken and you will not [TS]

  convince me that any of those cgi [TS]

  versions of him look more real than the [TS]

  muppet version there's something so [TS]

  expressive and I was watching it very [TS]

  closely this time and you know i think [TS]

  in on all the watching I've ever had [TS]

  this I always just treat him as a person [TS]

  like he just he just comes across as a [TS]

  real living flesh and blood creature and [TS]

  and you could not dissuade me for that [TS]

  even if i'm looking at any yeah he moves [TS]

  kinda weird at times whatever but like [TS]

  you look at the face and the subtle [TS]

  expressions that they do that a couple [TS]

  points where like yeah you know you'll [TS]

  see his like chin tighten and the other [TS]

  way his eyes move or even his ears [TS]

  um it's it's incredible and I think you [TS]

  know having a person behind that too to [TS]

  translate that emotion and the same way [TS]

  that having someone addresses Chewbacca [TS]

  or people inside the droids you know all [TS]

  of those things led to humanity to these [TS]

  characters that otherwise comes across [TS]

  as incredibly sterile and and you know [TS]

  you cannot convince me that that any CGI [TS]

  is better than Frank Oz working that [TS]

  Muppet also don't forget the the the [TS]

  making a motion picture the the craft of [TS]

  being able to take a puppet but also cut [TS]

  in various ways there are several shots [TS]

  in this movie where you see you see you [TS]

  two sitting he's walking he's he's so [TS]

  it's not as if it's not like Sesame [TS]

  Street where they're just only shot from [TS]

  the waist up he's not hiding behind a [TS]

  table exactly right so that it's [TS]

  intercut enough that it does really [TS]

  bring out the illusion i'm reminded of a [TS]

  moment where you see Kermit the Frog [TS]

  riding the bike and the muppet movie [TS]

  they're like oh my god curve it's got [TS]

  legs because really we never see them [TS]

  he's always just a puppet right so Yoda [TS]

  is the same way you see him you see him [TS]

  as a as a whole creature even though [TS]

  some of that is just miss direction from [TS]

  from editing but it it it makes a huge [TS]

  difference in [TS]

  same way the special effects from the [TS]

  original movie and I think we touched [TS]

  upon this the limitations make it better [TS]

  right [TS]

  it's hard right they had to think about [TS]

  ways to get around that whereas with CGI [TS]

  you know whatever it's easy we just make [TS]

  him walk right at cgi done you know [TS]

  where is this where they had to think [TS]

  really hard about well how are we gonna [TS]

  make this look real when we are [TS]

  constrained by certain limitations we [TS]

  gotta have a guy working this thing [TS]

  right [TS]

  like how do we do that and i think that [TS]

  you know in the art of pulling that off [TS]

  is what takes this from just being a [TS]

  really dull sterile you know [TS]

  straightforward and you know story and [TS]

  elevates it to being something that is [TS]

  so effective [TS]

  I think this to other things that are [TS]

  working in the favor of making this work [TS]

  the first one is cultural in that [TS]

  everyone who saw this movie at the at [TS]

  the age that we are when it came out was [TS]

  brought up on a diet of muppets [TS]

  essentially from Sesame Street and so I [TS]

  love eating Muppets we were completely [TS]

  on board with the mannerisms conventions [TS]

  of the world of muppets that we were [TS]

  they didn't seem alien to us they seem [TS]

  like this is the way a little creatures [TS]

  act on TV and all the idiosyncrasies [TS]

  that are due to limitations and puppetry [TS]

  didn't bother us at all we were [TS]

  completely on board with them and the [TS]

  second one is that like like a good [TS]

  magic trick that the magic trick is you [TS]

  know it's misdirection they're gonna [TS]

  point you over here to get your just not [TS]

  look at the limitation the thing that's [TS]

  misdirecting you most of the time with [TS]

  Yoda is the amazing performance of Frank [TS]

  Oz like so if you Frank Oz knows he's [TS]

  got I'm gonna remote with his eyes and [TS]

  his chin in the scene and you're gonna [TS]

  listen to my voice and everything else [TS]

  that happens where you to look at it you [TS]

  would say that looks horrible and fake [TS]

  and it's obviously a puppet it's dumb [TS]

  but like a great magic trick you don't [TS]

  even look at those things because the [TS]

  voice and the two things he chose to [TS]

  make you look at cell it will look at [TS]

  that scene the scene where Luke realizes [TS]

  you're gonna write his whole Yoda's [TS]

  whole bearing changes you can get up [TS]

  right [TS]

  Aria his stance sort of straightens up [TS]

  his face sort of titans up a little bit [TS]

  in a way that is just like a yeah and [TS]

  what if i am you know like what are you [TS]

  gonna do about it and at that point he's [TS]

  pissed office is like I can't train this [TS]

  kid like you know it disapproval [TS]

  disapproval is also have space there [TS]

  yeah and that whole you know I [TS]

  again with the language works we're [TS]

  taking him we treat them kind of silly [TS]

  because he speaks backwards right [TS]

  backwards he speaks and and but i love [TS]

  the dslam on that one line you are [TS]

  reckless right no problem saying that he [TS]

  just pointed out any hits home with it's [TS]

  a great performance and it is a really [TS]

  fully realized performance and that's [TS]

  why I think it's resonated with people [TS]

  for so long I am struck though imagine [TS]

  so [TS]

  so you made the biggest grossing movie [TS]

  of all time [TS]

  right so you've got some latitude but at [TS]

  the same time you really don't want to [TS]

  mess this up [TS]

  this is your everybody's waiting to see [TS]

  your second movie that you're going to [TS]

  make and the decision to have a major [TS]

  character in the movie be a puppet [TS]

  I mean seriously think about that think [TS]

  they could have caught they could have [TS]

  cast a guy in makeup a little guy to be [TS]

  a wizened old wizard kind of creature [TS]

  and they didn't they got you know they [TS]

  got the jim henson people and they got [TS]

  Frank Oz to puppet and perform at night [TS]

  and I just I it is I think now we all [TS]

  just kind of accept Yoda as this puppet [TS]

  character but how brave a decision that [TS]

  was in some ways because it could have [TS]

  been a disaster right a laughingstock [TS]

  and it turned out to be a great decision [TS]

  but uh pretty brave because they could [TS]

  they could play it safe at the end of [TS]

  the end of my laser disc copy that i [TS]

  watch this there's like a like seven [TS]

  minute interview with George Lucas which [TS]

  is Leonard Maltin sitting down with him [TS]

  and there were a couple interesting [TS]

  points i was interested to know that he [TS]

  yum [TS]

  he tried to get Henson to do it for the [TS]

  first part like you know Henson was [TS]

  supposed to play Yoda and he was just [TS]

  like me you know what I'm too busy but [TS]

  like what about Frank and he was you [TS]

  know because like that totally okay you [TS]

  know in you know Henson refers Frankie's [TS]

  my other half right you know like this [TS]

  is always thinking of Kermit but we can [TS]

  go with Grover right well I mean you [TS]

  know that that you know Frank Oz is a [TS]

  genius in his own right so there's no [TS]

  there's no question there but it he does [TS]

  talk a little bit about this I you know [TS]

  process of deciding to make it [TS]

  a muppet and I think you know it's it's [TS]

  effective because in the same way that [TS]

  Yoda presents himself as somewhat less [TS]

  than he is upon us appearance [TS]

  we're all willing to you know sort of go [TS]

  along with that because again as John [TS]

  was saying like you're sort of [TS]

  inoculated into knowing how much it's a [TS]

  crate Oh silly mother that's right like [TS]

  funny kind of comic relief up and walk [TS]

  away yeah and so youryour you buy into [TS]

  that too right you buy into the idea [TS]

  like out this is just some crazy alien [TS]

  who lives on this planet wants to eat my [TS]

  food it we're putting Luke shadows right [TS]

  and you know I think that we get that [TS]

  reveal too and that's kind of a damning [TS]

  reveal what it's like and that's the [TS]

  whole that's the whole message of you to [TS]

  write do you judge people by appearances [TS]

  and and think of like the end that [TS]

  sino-soviet we start out for like the [TS]

  guy you know I was stealing food and [TS]

  being goofy and the end of that thing [TS]

  before they wiped away back to the harm [TS]

  story for good for a while is the you [TS]

  know I could do a master i'm not afraid [TS]

  you just that you will me like you went [TS]

  from this goofy thing to a genuinely [TS]

  scary to a little kid who is watching [TS]

  this video you will be like Jesus that's [TS]

  kind of citizens that were the range of [TS]

  my character from his introduction to 10 [TS]

  minutes later how our view of this [TS]

  character is like the funny goofy guide [TS]

  to the one that is scaring ten-year-old [TS]

  children [TS]

  alright so now we've got at this point [TS]

  the movie we've got lots of things that [TS]

  happened in caves or things that we [TS]

  think her caves the back of the [TS]

  millennium falcon uh I think the turning [TS]

  point for the han and Leia relationships [TS]

  in some ways is a for me is the moment [TS]

  where she says you make it so hard [TS]

  sometimes and he says I do i don't [TS]

  really i really do it's ok really hard [TS]

  he's finally owning up to the thing that [TS]

  they've been doing for the first part [TS]

  for the first part of the mo is [TS]

  acknowledging and say yes you're right [TS]

  that thing you think I've been doing I [TS]

  admit that i've been doing it level when [TS]

  he throws up that the name thing to [TS]

  write like what you stop calling me that [TS]

  shirt and all right we gotta get your [TS]

  creating about that her first name [TS]

  sounds worse it's like he wanted to call [TS]

  her that it's just that when [TS]

  hey your worship I'm only trying to help [TS]

  you please stop calling me that [TS]

  sure where it's so difficult sometimes [TS]

  you really do you could be a little [TS]

  nicer though [TS]

  come on admit sometimes you think I'm [TS]

  all right [TS]

  occasionally maybe when you aren't [TS]

  acting like a scandal scandal sound like [TS]

  the sound of that stop that stop work [TS]

  stop that my hands are dirty dirty to do [TS]

  you find up grade your trembling [TS]

  too much him [TS]

  doesn't scandal in your life have a nice [TS]

  man nice men [TS]

  i isolated the reverse power flux [TS]

  coupling thank you [TS]

  very much you're perfectly welcome set [TS]

  no and then c-3po gets in the way and [TS]

  spoils the entire thing I just love that [TS]

  I do i do I really do that that's that [TS]

  moment where it's like it's a great [TS]

  scene there and at the other one is that [TS]

  when she's scared she comes running to [TS]

  Hondo something out there at that moment [TS]

  she's at first time showing [TS]

  vulnerability to hunt because the whole [TS]

  time she's been like I'm top I don't [TS]

  need you blood now she's lucky I Knox is [TS]

  why my wonderful what the lovely thing [TS]

  about that and this is one of the places [TS]

  where I think this you know the film [TS]

  clearly Trump's one of the radio drama [TS]

  scenes is that he doesn't question it [TS]

  right he just goes like where you know [TS]

  what happened he's generally concerned [TS]

  hehe he could you know what we've seen [TS]

  upon right like he could easily take [TS]

  that opportunity to make fun of her but [TS]

  he doesn't see that she's actually [TS]

  concerned she's relating to him on a [TS]

  real level he will return you know and [TS]

  kind it's the foundation for a healthy [TS]

  relationship [TS]

  this is the moment where at all i think [TS]

  those two characters just kind of [TS]

  putting together those two crazy kiddos [TS]

  that I know and in that cave that is not [TS]

  a cave the cave that's not how did you [TS]

  meet how did you meet your mom well we [TS]

  were in a space login button that little [TS]

  scene the head where there were there [TS]

  you know my hands are dirty too what are [TS]

  you afraid of i'm not afraid of all but [TS]

  like that's that's good [TS]

  snappy dialogue and delivered in a way [TS]

  that they get closer to each other and [TS]

  quieter until like the down to the last [TS]

  line which is also funny [TS]

  in addition to being corner that happen [TS]

  to like nice men he goes on a nice man [TS]

  i'm a smell don't know you're not [TS]

  compromised no you're not you're smoking [TS]

  for granted comedies have not had that [TS]

  type of see anything is you got a [TS]

  decision you got to disengage them [TS]

  because you get again i always think [TS]

  'what a modern we did have some sort of [TS]

  love scene and the special love lounge [TS]

  on the way no serious interrupted [TS]

  because we got an action movie to back [TS]

  out you get the button in the bed turns [TS]

  or above the shakes the ship yeah we're [TS]

  being pursued by the Empire when a space [TS]

  like we need to get out of here [TS]

  hey if the falkens our Rocket threatened [TS]

  no time for love dr jones it's probably [TS]

  being hit by asteroids if the Falcon is [TS]

  a-rockin to pocket if I hang if I hang [TS]

  this tie over the door to my quarters [TS]

  just stay in the front of the ship okay [TS]

  oh I think that and I've always said [TS]

  that they removed the inn in Star Wars [TS]

  there are dice hanging from the cockpit [TS]

  you can see in a couple [TS]

  scenes he hits his head on like these [TS]

  little dangly dice not like fuzzy dice [TS]

  but there-there there-there gone and in [TS]

  an empire always makes me a little said [TS]

  so [TS]

  so anything else to say about the cave [TS]

  and the fact that I mean it's just a [TS]

  clever little turnaround when they [TS]

  discovered that they're inside a [TS]

  creature minox chewing on the power [TS]

  cable [TS]

  it's great it's one of those fun scenes [TS]

  although i would say that Hans decision [TS]

  if you think you're inside a creature [TS]

  maybe don't take that point to say well [TS]

  there's one way to find out for sure [TS]

  when I shoot it up and maybe find a less [TS]

  so big maybe it's just leaving about [TS]

  that pan find a less severe experiment [TS]

  perhaps because of that if your [TS]

  suspicion turns out to be correct and [TS]

  now that it's probably angry John hon [TS]

  shoots first asks questions never come [TS]

  on this is let's keep they also do the [TS]

  Star Trek thing again with the let's [TS]

  tilt the camera and everybody Lena they [TS]

  pull it off [TS]

  yeah and they don't want to go out right [TS]

  because they know that the Empire's [TS]

  waiting for them out there and so they [TS]

  don't want to go I said we can't go out [TS]

  there is no time to discuss in the [TS]

  company that's the committee committee [TS]

  and that's the after the kissing scene [TS]

  so it shows that even though they have [TS]

  it I get it basically that's haunting [TS]

  let's not let this be weird okay yeah [TS]

  that's you know we can go back to the [TS]

  way the way that we banter never we can [TS]

  still banter he doesn't act like what [TS]

  he's saying is beneath her she's [TS]

  actually a little into actually [TS]

  indignant now that's right don't know [TS]

  i'm not that committee yeah we go back [TS]

  to the swamp [TS]

  yeah Miami yo don't let us know here is [TS]

  taking bus kind of boring and i do not [TS]

  get that at all because Diego's the hard [TS]

  house movie for me I've heard people say [TS]

  a couple things about a one is that it's [TS]

  a middle section it drags and the other [TS]

  one is that everything Yoda says [TS]

  platitudes I disagree with both of I [TS]

  disagree with the I don't think [TS]

  everything you notices platitudes I i do [TS]

  think that I do think the negative stuff [TS]

  the training stuff goes on a little too [TS]

  long [TS]

  it's it's not it's not drawn out like [TS]

  that but everything works to a purpose [TS]

  here's the thing i like about the [TS]

  training scenes right so the the [TS]

  conventional training like usually [TS]

  washroom so wheres the mario is by the [TS]

  way where is we have some sort of all [TS]

  the all the master was trying to teach [TS]

  you something a lot of them have [TS]

  montages sometimes that the music but [TS]

  even going around again path it's okay [TS]

  buddy master shows the students [TS]

  something the student finds it difficult [TS]

  to master is frustrated the master keeps [TS]

  doing it in [TS]

  eventual moment of breaking through and [TS]

  student finds yeah i can get this i can [TS]

  learn it in the master is happy that [TS]

  never happens to look everything Leo [TS]

  tries teaching he screws it up then and [TS]

  innovate at the ending point of this [TS]

  particular seems like you know he's [TS]

  making things fall down it's not [TS]

  concentrating every time there's a new [TS]

  power is asking dumb questions no no [TS]

  moral teacher today clear your minds of [TS]

  questions like you're just screwing up [TS]

  and he never has a breakthrough with it [TS]

  where the mass they cut the master and [TS]

  the master smiles like yeah you're [TS]

  finally getting it never know yet won [TS]

  the end of course we have the cave to [TS]

  right here is up there too which is not [TS]

  only screws up but like that [TS]

  the cave is a great song like the [TS]

  beginning I like the beginning of the [TS]

  cave the cave of psychology [TS]

  well no but I mean like I like the cave [TS]

  with the you know your weapons you don't [TS]

  need them [TS]

  he gives them a hint he tells them how [TS]

  do how dense you have to be and and Luke [TS]

  gives them that look right here Lucas [TS]

  he's like yeah whatever i'm taking my [TS]

  gun [TS]

  you know what happens to the cave it [TS]

  what happens in the cave is that there [TS]

  are low frames per second [TS]

  i I've noticed that too but that works [TS]

  for me yeah i remember being a kid in [TS]

  like I got 5th grade or something and [TS]

  going over to my friends house and for [TS]

  the first time ever seeing a quicktime [TS]

  video and my first thought being about [TS]

  like it looks like that scene from our [TS]

  sides but no frames per second yeah I [TS]

  always associated with that now well [TS]

  it's meant to be right it's dreamlike [TS]

  it's it's it's not real rainy and [TS]

  strange it's an inexpensive dreamlike [TS]

  and the music makes a dreamlike to the [TS]

  high violin there's something [TS]

  fascinating that got me about that i [TS]

  noticed that I've noticed before but i [TS]

  was reminded of it this time [TS]

  both of the battle scenes that Luke is [TS]

  in in the cave and later on Cloud City [TS]

  he draws his weapon first test yes I [TS]

  definitely noticed that involves [TS]

  everything in the cave it's obvious and [TS]

  even in the second one even though you [TS]

  know he's going to be like knowledge and [TS]

  defense never for attack he doesn't even [TS]

  get price and he just is not taking [TS]

  instruction well yeah exactly i love [TS]

  that and I love that he totally screws [TS]

  that up so I slice and after it's been [TS]

  drilled into him you know you're still [TS]

  angry and pissed off right and speaking [TS]

  of that's why you failed so the scene is [TS]

  the one more like he notices the ship [TS]

  sinking lure that's why he screws up one [TS]

  of his other exercises and you know [TS]

  starts talking to him about it and [TS]

  and and and he gets all places like give [TS]

  me a break and get the ship out of [TS]

  moving rocks as one to visit gigantic [TS]

  chef not doing that and then of course [TS]

  Yoda you know sighs and goes I'm gonna [TS]

  show this kid what's going on what this [TS]

  scene is doing in the movie is its [TS]

  widening the boundaries of the force [TS]

  before we started this movie without the [TS]

  Force to let you shoot things better and [TS]

  make you disappear when you die then he [TS]

  brought his lightsaber to his hand you [TS]

  like this force is great i get the salt [TS]

  from across the table and I can get the [TS]

  ketchup I don't know my cup of coffee he [TS]

  lists the entire ship out of the swamp [TS]

  to say you think you know what the [TS]

  forces about but you don't this little [TS]

  green turd thing is going to lift the [TS]

  entire x-wing out of the swamp by his [TS]

  lonesome put it right down next to [TS]

  student and show him the force is not [TS]

  what you think it is when you thought it [TS]

  wasn't being in the movie is not what [TS]

  you thought it was me with lightsaber [TS]

  you don't even know what the forces you [TS]

  know and by the way i could have just to [TS]

  prove my point I could just strangle you [TS]

  but I didn't hurt anyone else feel like [TS]

  that and i want to say a one-shot there [TS]

  that I love which is that when when they [TS]

  bring the x-wing down Luke reaches up [TS]

  and slaps it right and i think the thing [TS]

  that gets me there is again talking [TS]

  about the production stuff it's a thing [TS]

  it's a giant ship it's not a cgi [TS]

  shipwright they built a freaking field [TS]

  size x way it's there and i think that [TS]

  to me is again one of those moments of [TS]

  like that is awesome like that is so [TS]

  cool but there's a thing and I also do i [TS]

  do love the be totally kind of terrible [TS]

  look that mark Campbell gives our to [TS]

  like which is the totally telegraphed i [TS]

  don't believe you but it's it's it's [TS]

  it's bad it's not very good but at the [TS]

  same time I love it there's something [TS]

  great about that like he looks at my [TS]

  diet shakes his head like a little [TS]

  better as the Mayan ball he instead of [TS]

  him saying yeah i did not realize it but [TS]

  possibly says I don't believe it the [TS]

  same way you would suggest you know [TS]

  temple the exclamation I don't believe [TS]

  it turns it into a teaching opportunity [TS]

  to teachable moment is Luke that is why [TS]

  you failed so i didn't think that seen [TS]

  this is probably the boring part where [TS]

  you jump around I didn't think it was [TS]

  too long and boring and i love i love [TS]

  the fact that you notice training inches [TS]

  bounces off this loser yeah what is this [TS]

  part this part is true I I among my [TS]

  other notes here is the forces an [TS]

  excellent a tool to use to stack rocks [TS]

  the you also you can you can [TS]

  one of Luke's training regimens appears [TS]

  to be do a handstand and levitate [TS]

  yourself and lift a series of boxes and [TS]

  if you've got extra time a droid split [TS]

  your mind into five pieces haha i know [TS]

  it's like devote its it's eerie yeah i [TS]

  wrote down luminous beings are we not [TS]

  this crude matter that's my one of my [TS]

  favorite love that one of my favorite [TS]

  yoga lines trying to explain what this [TS]

  whole force businesses about that it's [TS]

  there's a bigger picture here which i [TS]

  really like a rare polysyllabic word [TS]

  from unit and you get the sense that [TS]

  he's trying to cram it like he says he's [TS]

  too all yeah according to all he seems [TS]

  like it's the perfect age is like a [TS]

  young adult is not when you train him [TS]

  but you see that he's trying to cram in [TS]

  so much information such a short time he [TS]

  said it looks not processing if you look [TS]

  at everything that Yoda says it's an [TS]

  explanation of something but he's not [TS]

  prepared to under it's just too much [TS]

  information too fast how many i just [TS]

  have a curiosity of them from your guy's [TS]

  perspective how many days do you think [TS]

  he's there [TS]

  not that long maybe like oh we are [TS]

  trying to calculate based on like how [TS]

  long they spent running away from the [TS]

  the fuckin Spencer anyway [TS]

  yeah you don't know how long it took [TS]

  them to fly without warp speed too well [TS]

  to Cloud City exactly i mean it seems [TS]

  like not more than a few days though [TS]

  right they make it seem like it's not [TS]

  long but I better be like a week yeah [TS]

  they spend a week running away from the [TS]

  Empire well they were they spend a week [TS]

  for they couldn't they couldn't go to [TS]

  light speed and takes awhile to get [TS]

  around you also don't know how long they [TS]

  were sitting on the back of the Star [TS]

  Destroyer until they get dumped off for [TS]

  track because you see them there and [TS]

  it's all dark and you're like you know [TS]

  so what's our next move that could hang [TS]

  out there for a while I i don't know i [TS]

  always seems to me like three or four [TS]

  days and like man that's a that's a very [TS]

  short time to cram in your Jedi training [TS]

  it does seem faster in the movie like [TS]

  this the question exactly how much Jedi [TS]

  training to look actually get but I [TS]

  think even if you think it's only been a [TS]

  few days [TS]

  it shows he looks like someone who's had [TS]

  like a three day course on you know [TS]

  professional driving and now he's not [TS]

  camp Jedi boot camp right and and has [TS]

  not absorbed it's like if you took a [TS]

  three-day professional driving course [TS]

  you are weakened really well yeah he's a [TS]

  Jedi weekend warrior so so before we get [TS]

  back to the the falken Luke has the [TS]

  sudden kind of vision when he's upside [TS]

  down and lifting boxes right of Leia and [TS]

  Han and in pain a city in the clouds and [TS]

  that leads leads him to leave [TS]

  Yoda swamp scenes i love how everything [TS]

  is wet i love how all the actors the [TS]

  hair is wet down i love the light and [TS]

  even though it's obviously in Dorset i [TS]

  love the lighting in the Dagobah swamp [TS]

  seeing as how everything with you is [TS]

  getting is rained on and you have missed [TS]

  missing looks tack sharp and solid and [TS]

  it just somehow doesn't bother me that [TS]

  it's a sound stage III just love those [TS]

  scenes i love that I love that Luke [TS]

  cracked his head on the on the inside of [TS]

  you is not it's a great little scene [TS]

  it's great little it's a great little [TS]

  humor shot in an otherwise very serious [TS]

  scene really and he doesn't think it's [TS]

  funny he's frustrated to work the and [TS]

  frustration but the viewers that thinks [TS]

  it's funny what I was struck by in the [TS]

  last seen with Yoda when you know band [TS]

  appears since says no really you should [TS]

  stick around and all that but the last [TS]

  scene III it's actually beautifully [TS]

  orchestrated where I love that sand it [TS]

  just from the lighting and everything [TS]

  been fades out there's the light of the [TS]

  x-wing taking off then it darkens as the [TS]

  x-wings going to black out that boy is [TS]

  our last hope [TS]

  and then it's just a little lighter and [TS]

  Yoda says no there is another it's just [TS]

  it's this amazing black you know and [TS]

  then light and the dark and then light i [TS]

  love that entire scene that entire scene [TS]

  is shot [TS]

  it's really great with Luke running [TS]

  around trying to get away and both of [TS]

  them are like that you know they're [TS]

  trying first dissuade him and then they [TS]

  realize nothing we're going to say is [TS]

  going to get through this guy let's just [TS]

  try and like give them at least the [TS]

  barest advice you know don't give in to [TS]

  hate write like this is this is the [TS]

  basic toyota says is his last device is [TS]

  not telling him how he can be successful [TS]

  but just trying to tell him mine what [TS]

  you have learned save you it can like [TS]

  you may not know guys could keep this [TS]

  could keep you alive listen to what I'm [TS]

  saying no you're not gonna win come on [TS]

  you're here you're screwed [TS]

  but save you it can you is it possible [TS]

  that you could not die so listen to our [TS]

  advice i'll throw in my 1 continuity [TS]

  nitpick here because it just because it [TS]

  amuses me [TS]

  where is the freaking ladder on the [TS]

  x-wing go yes yes it will and the toy it [TS]

  goes into the ziploc bag next to the [TS]

  haha [TS]

  just always pictured in having to likely [TS]

  villages got like 20 ladders in the [TS]

  cargo bay because it leaves it on every [TS]

  flavor woman in every port and a ladder [TS]

  and that's that's the Rebel Alliance way [TS]

  that's my only yeah that's how they look [TS]

  at the Rebel Alliance is terribly over [TS]

  budget on ladders let me tell you and I [TS]

  also point out since we do so many [TS]

  doctor who and time travel things or [TS]

  whatever the empire strikes back is a [TS]

  time travel movie because he's vision of [TS]

  the future is what motivates him to go [TS]

  before the thing it's motivating him to [TS]

  go is actually have some get but in [TS]

  order for that vision of the future to [TS]

  happen the future events have to happen [TS]

  where those people talk about you can [TS]

  have the vision back and you're [TS]

  dismissed as Yoda says you know like you [TS]

  know maybe you're right if you went now [TS]

  maybe you could help them but if you [TS]

  didn't go now maybe they wouldn't talk [TS]

  to them and then you use just but you [TS]

  destroy everything is a isn't enough [TS]

  time travel movie but it ends up being [TS]

  necessary and maybe you know depending [TS]

  on how you look at it right skipped over [TS]

  that the the good line of when they [TS]

  they're cleaning the back and escaped [TS]

  with the rest of the guy wanted to talk [TS]

  about about the the boat we have the we [TS]

  have the Bounty Hunter's which I know [TS]

  some people love and you don't need disk [TS]

  and then we have the garbage they hang [TS]

  out with the garbage [TS]

  the thing that got me on the bounty [TS]

  hunters this time which I had never [TS]

  thought about before was where the hell [TS]

  did they come from are they hanging out [TS]

  on the Star Destroyer they all flew in [TS]

  on their ships a fluid after like two [TS]

  days like oh yeah we hear this starter [TS]

  story in the middle of nowhere is need [TS]

  need some bounty hunters will you put it [TS]

  on the credit unlike the Empire [TS]

  craigslist saying wanted bounty hunters [TS]

  come here to Darth Vader ship and we [TS]

  have got a mission they're still in the [TS]

  freaking asteroid field [TS]

  well I feel like they just haven't left [TS]

  the asteroid field because every bounty [TS]

  hunters come to this asteroid field yeah [TS]

  I actually yonders president way too [TS]

  much though it's definitely a couple [TS]

  months couple months and months at least [TS]

  it was not a month it is it is not even [TS]

  remotely a month it is a month at least [TS]

  he had spent a month getting away from [TS]

  these people [TS]

  it's like four days I don't think it's [TS]

  supposed to be and no it's not a long [TS]

  time together but I think we did we skip [TS]

  over the Emperor yeah we did oh there's [TS]

  a brief period [TS]

  yes there's the upper in Darth Vader's [TS]

  office no he's in a different place is [TS]

  kneeling on the little he's merely a [TS]

  little kneeling thing that makes a giant [TS]

  Emperor head appear but that establishes [TS]

  that there's someone above Vader which [TS]

  is important and also he doesn't show up [TS]

  as a present [TS]

  is a mini another like like right sighs [TS]

  yeah he shows up is gigantic temper and [TS]

  it shows that you know even Vader has a [TS]

  boss and it makes you it makes you [TS]

  fearless Emperor guy is and that you [TS]

  need the Emperor's presence there not [TS]

  sure the next movie but for this movie [TS]

  so that in the later scenes Vader has [TS]

  someone to play off against you know you [TS]

  and me son we can take on this other [TS]

  dude because you know that you need to [TS]

  establish that Vader thinks it's so [TS]

  important he wants to bring the ship out [TS]

  of the asteroid field to send a clear [TS]

  transmission kneels before him the guy [TS]

  talks to him he has his head bowed he [TS]

  says the son of Skywalker which is great [TS]

  very careful where they don't show you [TS]

  know pay off later in the thing and you [TS]

  know that that is an important short [TS]

  scene again economy not long scenes with [TS]

  the Emperor he's not menacing and [TS]

  mincing around we don't even seem to the [TS]

  middle of the movie but it's important [TS]

  to establish this for the rest of the [TS]

  movie to work [TS]

  there's great agendas in there right [TS]

  like he's you know Vader's working [TS]

  something the Emperor's working [TS]

  something he could destroy us well I [TS]

  don't really want to try to use my son [TS]

  he could be turned [TS]

  hey that's not that he could be like you [TS]

  can be really important that you know [TS]

  they're both thinking I think at that [TS]

  point I can use them against the other [TS]

  guy if I need to write and i love that [TS]

  you know Vader almost looks friendly by [TS]

  comparison the Emperor's freebie right [TS]

  like scary disfigured actually the [TS]

  original amber not but not the [TS]

  palpitating one where they have baboon [TS]

  eyes and it's like mainly takes makeup [TS]

  and yeah those big icopter it's creepy [TS]

  is messed up i wanted to mention my one [TS]

  I think there's a it's a scene right [TS]

  before that one of my favorite little [TS]

  throwaway details is they come back to [TS]

  the asteroid field an asteroid hits one [TS]

  of the like bridges of the Star [TS]

  Destroyer and your cut and you see the [TS]

  hologram guy who like throw his hands up [TS]

  and disappeared i just i love that you [TS]

  if you blink you'll miss it but it's a [TS]

  great little detail I i have to show [TS]

  that to my son three times because the [TS]

  first time I saw a pause in a citizen it [TS]

  did you notice anything there and then i [TS]

  showed them again and like I mean I [TS]

  don't know if I thought you liked it [TS]

  means I'm worried about seeing I pretty [TS]

  sure I saw for the first time with a [TS]

  great but that stuff is all over these [TS]

  now also there's a scene I think maybe [TS]

  even got to get the captain needa where [TS]

  he strangles them I'll apologize to the [TS]

  Emperor myself and then that's another [TS]

  one of those great like for the first [TS]

  time I ended up watching the other [TS]

  officers [TS]

  who are standing around after he chokes [TS]

  him and they kind of like they're kind [TS]

  of like milling and like peering around [TS]

  and then when they dragged the corpse [TS]

  out they they scream the hell away which [TS]

  is a great little detail like oh crappy [TS]

  strangle somebody is in a bad mood don't [TS]

  know when we'll go talk to the boss [TS]

  right now so in a bounty hunter saying [TS]

  they've got this big menagerie of bounty [TS]

  hunters right and we see all them and we [TS]

  all have the action figures and know [TS]

  their names but the importance of this [TS]

  movie in the rest we will only one of [TS]

  them is important and how is it [TS]

  expressed which one is important like [TS]

  three seconds later goes down to each [TS]

  one of them says I want them alive blah [TS]

  blah turns to one particular guy points [TS]

  his finger in his face they do reverse [TS]

  shot he says no decision degree that is [TS]

  the bounty hunter that's important [TS]

  because they took the time out the [TS]

  wagons finger Adam he got a line he says [TS]

  as you wish and yes little fair and then [TS]

  he's the one where the one who were [TS]

  going to be mine obviously we follow him [TS]

  we see that he's smart enough to follow [TS]

  hands plant stuff like that again [TS]

  so tight because there's so much you [TS]

  have to do in this movie how do we [TS]

  express this is the important bounty [TS]

  hunter i can do it in 1.5 seconds with [TS]

  one reverse camera angle shot and one [TS]

  line from each side [TS]

  great great filmmaker agreed they attack [TS]

  i love that I love that they share your [TS]

  wait you're not actually attacking a [TS]

  Star Destroyer right that's a great [TS]

  moment of desperation right they tried [TS]

  to use the hyperdrive again it's still [TS]

  broken [TS]

  oh crap you know and that literally the [TS]

  last ditch attempt and yet it pays off [TS]

  it totally works you know and we have [TS]

  that moment of where the hell did they [TS]

  go as they release the landing claw and [TS]

  attaching up a hero music and everything [TS]

  a little late getting this very sweet [TS]

  kiss he says you do have your moments [TS]

  not many but you do have them which is a [TS]

  genuine expression of affection and [TS]

  admiration without all that crap that [TS]

  the beginning without the garden this [TS]

  although there's some of that too right [TS]

  like you know he's a gambler conman [TS]

  scoundrel you'd like him [TS]

  yeah but it comes off of giving him a [TS]

  kiss and it but it's sweet its it's just [TS]

  plain suite of two people there are you [TS]

  know a a private moment I expressing [TS]

  themselves i think that's that's more [TS]

  sweet and romantic and the kissing scene [TS]

  and i love the every time i hear the [TS]

  line you know Lando system i think [TS]

  there's not a season's a man baby [TS]

  you know hello also is it isn't it great [TS]

  that the Millennium Falcon doesn't have [TS]

  a rearview mirror has really poor [TS]

  visibility like any good sports car [TS]

  yeah seriously it's got a blind spot [TS]

  where she's like 40 feet behind them and [TS]

  they're like we're great because just go [TS]

  to Cloud City Boba Fett is bold [TS]

  that's what I'll say he's pulling that [TS]

  ship is heavily modified yeah you know [TS]

  he's got he's hiding he's got like [TS]

  stealth stuff no ship that small has a [TS]

  cloaking device haha unless you have [TS]

  sold over that because he's that awesome [TS]

  also they're not paying attention [TS]

  they're just trying to get to Cloud City [TS]

  they gotta look at the gps the whole [TS]

  time is no light speed [TS]

  so my thought my thought was uh when we [TS]

  meet our ability Williams Lando [TS]

  Calrissian i thought hey it's an it's a [TS]

  new character which is interesting like [TS]

  you know a a major characters introduced [TS]

  who is knew who was not in the last [TS]

  movie who's a friend of ours initio de [TS]

  who's a puppet but and then there's the [TS]

  disability Williams variants usually [TS]

  shows up for what 40 minutes maybe he's [TS]

  not in it that much of it but he's [TS]

  crucial i agree he's a major character [TS]

  and he shows up you know two-thirds of [TS]

  the age of 35 minutes left i wanted and [TS]

  what an entrance he has to what an [TS]

  entrance he comes out with his cape [TS]

  flying behind him with his onto our [TS]

  guards down like we were only there just [TS]

  just for the joke when I love that he [TS]

  sort of see you know if this is clearly [TS]

  in that again judge to John's point [TS]

  about economy you know like we have [TS]

  summed up the relationship between these [TS]

  two guys right in a graphical lines i [TS]

  like to keep your eyes open want you [TS]

  know like that you trust this guy course [TS]

  I trust them you know like it i think [TS]

  there's that you know we get this idea [TS]

  between these two guys and we get that [TS]

  little exchange between the two what you [TS]

  done to my ship [TS]

  I you lost doing various square you know [TS]

  and do you still hanging out with this [TS]

  loser Chewbacca like you know we get the [TS]

  idea like this is a guy they've known [TS]

  for awhile they have some history with [TS]

  him he's clearly very much in many ways [TS]

  cut from the same cloth as hon but this [TS]

  is where we start we start to get an [TS]

  idea of like the diverging paths like [TS]

  maricon might be happy not following [TS]

  with the rebellion perhaps well and [TS]

  landis got that great line that that is [TS]

  mostly I think off-screen and it says [TS]

  he's walking away where where he [TS]

  basically says well you know I ended up [TS]

  being a businessman because [TS]

  you know that it was necessary I forget [TS]

  exactly what the line is but you know [TS]

  he's basically explaining i am I he is a [TS]

  respectable businessman that when it was [TS]

  never expected sort of it just sort of [TS]

  ended up that way now he's got this [TS]

  cloud city thing and all and i do love [TS]

  that in that first scene where he says [TS]

  hello what have we got and then you know [TS]

  he kisses her hand right and the look [TS]

  that Carrie Fisher has on her face in [TS]

  that one scene right is probably to my [TS]

  mind the most genuine smile you see from [TS]

  her in this entire film she looks like [TS]

  he's just so damn charming right [TS]

  he has a diff has a different approach [TS]

  than hon that's definitely a different [TS]

  approach and he does that he goes the [TS]

  great line he says I'm the administrator [TS]

  of this facility but he's got to use the [TS]

  big words to impress the ladies to show [TS]

  these are just that sophisticated man [TS]

  and not just us a smuggler he totally [TS]

  looks up Threepio to you imagine that [TS]

  Chewbacca is basically helping him give [TS]

  him a hard time with that you hang [TS]

  around with this loser [TS]

  it had better bring yes he is a loser [TS]

  anyway how you doing to buck up and [TS]

  really friend [TS]

  Lando is again and Lando's another one [TS]

  of my favorite characters i just i think [TS]

  he's these years and part of it is just [TS]

  so much of that is is Billy Dee Williams [TS]

  charm countries he delivers every line [TS]

  like you know what the best thing about [TS]

  this charm though is if you know you [TS]

  mean you know what during the whole time [TS]

  that is putting on this charm act he [TS]

  knows I empires here he knows he's gonna [TS]

  turn surrender and you know he's [TS]

  conflicted about it so there is a [TS]

  tension to his demeanor during these [TS]

  scenes where he's trying to act like the [TS]

  old buddy old pallet he is but he's [TS]

  being torn up on the inside about the [TS]

  whole deer and there's a little bit of [TS]

  that brittleness if you know it's if you [TS]

  know what's coming if you watch the [TS]

  scenes that he's not you know it could [TS]

  just be he's not as good actor Harrison [TS]

  for but it works in other contexts as [TS]

  well you don't know quite yet that he's [TS]

  been subverted by the Empire it's only [TS]

  later when we realize that [TS]

  c-3po when he's reassembled that he has [TS]

  right in that first scene he stumbles [TS]

  onto a room that's got stormtrooper sent [TS]

  it right so they are there but that's [TS]

  sort of retroactive that you you don't [TS]

  you don't realize that they've been [TS]

  there all along until later so you know [TS]

  you're giving he landed the benefit of [TS]

  the doubt when intern in reality he [TS]

  doesn't [TS]

  service yeah you know that afraid to not [TS]

  explain what shoes 3 c-3po you have the [TS]

  other what are you doing like any and [TS]

  then you see a piece of them but they [TS]

  ended day that you'll find out about [TS]

  this later they continue with the movie [TS]

  yeah well I love the subtle the subtle [TS]

  dialogue right before they enter the [TS]

  room with Darth Vader and the [TS]

  stormtroopers everything is like I've [TS]

  just made a deal that will keep the [TS]

  Empire out of here forever and you never [TS]

  notice that the first couple times you [TS]

  watchin ya own are kinda I didn't notice [TS]

  it come up as a seven-year-old you as [TS]

  someone who hasn't seen is only seen the [TS]

  movie 8,000 times but not 800 that [TS]

  800,000 times [TS]

  well that's when he's lowering he's [TS]

  lowering the boom I i love the Chewbacca [TS]

  c-3po access and mcleod city seems we're [TS]

  there [TS]

  they're the ones who are linked together [TS]

  and and he's the one who finds the parts [TS]

  of c-3po and there's a great moment [TS]

  where he's doing the alas poor Yorick [TS]

  moment where he's sitting there cradling [TS]

  threepio's head in his hand [TS]

  just last the skull and with dan don't [TS]

  let him skip the stand go back oh yeah [TS]

  don't I just I wanted to get doing it [TS]

  there's just a lot of a lot of things [TS]

  that a lot of great scenes in their shoe [TS]

  and c3po throughout all of this where [TS]

  we're too is the one who notices the [TS]

  c-3po disappears and he finds his parts [TS]

  and reassembles and backward and all of [TS]

  that I just a great combination he runs [TS]

  around with him on his back having its [TS]

  that's a lot of great stuff there [TS]

  yeah the whole scene i think there's a [TS]

  very fascinating scene we see the scene [TS]

  with Harmon layout right you know [TS]

  domestic almost you know they're there [TS]

  she's all dressed up and this borrowed [TS]

  clothes he comes in [TS]

  I don't trust me there let's talk about [TS]

  it as you know as equals [TS]

  but like that the relationship has [TS]

  probably changed at that point right now [TS]

  the two of them a and you know I don't [TS]

  know this time around for the first time [TS]

  in myself i found myself thinking they [TS]

  probably had sex right yeah good idea [TS]

  that it was just it just click kiss her [TS]

  on the forehead right exactly there's [TS]

  something very you know established [TS]

  about it at that point and I that's a [TS]

  fascinating little scene and he's not [TS]

  bothered by Lando's advances anymore [TS]

  because he's confident in their [TS]

  relationship agency rolls eyes at them [TS]

  yeah the great throw away to at the you [TS]

  know something wrong with your droid [TS]

  know why the scene I thought you were [TS]

  going to go back to was yeah this is [TS]

  what everyone says about the movie but [TS]

  we have to put in our progress as well [TS]

  so he leads that land on everyone [TS]

  is another thing the door open the enemy [TS]

  Darth Vader quieres con solo immediately [TS]

  takes out his guys should start there [TS]

  because when you see the bad guy you [TS]

  don't go so dark we meet now you shoot [TS]

  him immediately and the best thing about [TS]

  it is that it totally doesn't work with [TS]

  others like yeah I don't think so super [TS]

  not take that gun lock ya fault of my [TS]

  head have this and the contrast to write [TS]

  like you know I i love that it's this [TS]

  white pristine oh yeah [TS]

  again I like they love to play with this [TS]

  you later is sitting at of working [TS]

  dining room table what you like it [TS]

  they'll sit down and up that's a great [TS]

  banquet right that's gotta pay and then [TS]

  and then after he disarms and then boba [TS]

  fett comes in from the side is like yep [TS]

  i'm here to dude it's like the darth [TS]

  vader roast is gonna be going to see [TS]

  that one scene we're all just sitting [TS]

  awkwardly having dinner could you pass [TS]

  the salt [TS]

  Robot Chicken did that did that there [TS]

  just is higher head that I get years ago [TS]

  yeah yeah and the thing is that the [TS]

  other thing about this is that you know [TS]

  this is the most this is the most makes [TS]

  the the grito on shooting first business [TS]

  you know makes the ridiculous is like [TS]

  the character is established to [TS]

  immediately fired his weapon upon seeing [TS]

  the enemy the only reason he didn't [TS]

  immediately sugary toes because we got [TS]

  the jump on them and had the gun drawn [TS]

  in person he had to talk while he got [TS]

  his general on shoots first for crying [TS]

  out loud he doesn't he doesn't even like [TS]

  Chewie growls at least on immediately [TS]

  fires and draws his fasting and didn't [TS]

  fire once you just aim shoot kill kill [TS]

  kill [TS]

  that's hot that's hot solo in that scene [TS]

  he is a mayor and of action on solo [TS]

  shoots first people absolutely that is n [TS]

  as it is great it's Connecticut shot [TS]

  gorgeously and you have that wonderful [TS]

  you know absorb the couple blaster bolts [TS]

  of the hand raised the other hand give [TS]

  me the gun and it's just like the [TS]

  stormtroopers come flooding in and now [TS]

  we've hit that point right we've hit the [TS]

  point that we talked about words like [TS]

  everything is just gotten so much worse [TS]

  oh yeah you know and i think we had that [TS]

  brief is that great we had the [TS]

  descending thing right like we had you [TS]

  know the asteroid the hyperdrive the [TS]

  space slug being chased gotta hide [TS]

  wait we've got this little plateau we [TS]

  made it cloud city maybe we're out of it [TS]

  oh wait the rug gets pulled out from [TS]

  under you and now you are truly the [TS]

  thing that you [TS]

  spent this entire movie trying to get [TS]

  away from has finally caught up with you [TS]

  and you are screwed [TS]

  and i think that's that's brilliance and [TS]

  it's all because the bubble that was [TS]

  there too [TS]

  yes both fit with his little sawed-off [TS]

  back on and you know we'd be honored [TS]

  future you know he's got a smug little [TS]

  smile under there when he steps out from [TS]

  the side is like that that's right hello [TS]

  yeah you too i'm going to get to read [TS]

  Jabba the Hutt sends his regards [TS]

  so so something that that I also find [TS]

  funny in this movie that I didn't notice [TS]

  the first dozen times i watched it is [TS]

  that you know I'm getting car frozen by [TS]

  amy and the carbon freeze is a he's just [TS]

  like a side effect here just testing it [TS]

  out everyone is about Luke he's just [TS]

  well it's not even bait is it [TS]

  I don't want to hurt Luke we better make [TS]

  sure this works it doesn't want you and [TS]

  all he wants someone called a Skywalker [TS]

  yeah I love that scene with Lando's is [TS]

  everyone coming together [TS]

  okay yeah we're the bait [TS]

  yeah i mean i love that whole scene to [TS]

  orlando comes in right I never even [TS]

  asked me any got home just tortured him [TS]

  with a thing that makes the little love [TS]

  droid with the syringe in the first [TS]

  movie look awfully table yeah never got [TS]

  a whole rig of torture i love the cloud [TS]

  city clearly has all this stuff just [TS]

  handy when they brought in the other I [TS]

  know but they've got the rooms [TS]

  I don't always reminds me of my for the [TS]

  fact that my boyfriend evan i spent a [TS]

  long time building this like [TS]

  online-based text adventure that was [TS]

  like we recreated crowds cloud city in [TS]

  it and was like I we got to make the [TS]

  torture room like seems a little weird [TS]

  am glad that you have a torture on let's [TS]

  just call it like out like a [TS]

  multi-purpose room to room temperature [TS]

  you can entertain you know what exactly [TS]

  whatever ball i'll make it have sparks [TS]

  and then we get that we get the land o [TS]

  scenes right where we we realize Lando [TS]

  starts to realize that he too [TS]

  he thought he was gonna skate by our [TS]

  deal is getting worse all the time right [TS]

  and so and then Lando goes into Kentucky [TS]

  goes in the contingency to write you [TS]

  think start thinking you can tell he [TS]

  starts thinking about contingencies i [TS]

  love that he comes into that scene and [TS]

  you know to talk to too hot and again [TS]

  just to speak to the radio dramas one of [TS]

  the nice little like touches they put on [TS]

  there is you know hon comments and in [TS]

  that scene that is like yeah I kind of [TS]

  think Lando came in here don't let me [TS]

  take a shot Adam and and I think you [TS]

  kind of got that impression right that [TS]

  you like [TS]

  he knows what's gonna happen and he's [TS]

  genuinely like he's really upset when [TS]

  the guards starts to wail on him right [TS]

  like he's like no no no this time yeah [TS]

  that's not what I came here to do you [TS]

  know I came here to actually make amends [TS]

  and you know that's not realize that's [TS]

  not quite going to play out the way I [TS]

  wanted to but I don't want you guys to [TS]

  beat him up and on gilt services anymore [TS]

  it guilt trips and more which is another [TS]

  reason you might be there like an injury [TS]

  that I shouldn't do this you're a real [TS]

  hero [TS]

  yeah you know it's even a nice nice like [TS]

  pick up wipe when they picked him up I [TS]

  always loved that the white goes up with [TS]

  them as a layout we pick up on the [TS]

  altering the deal business where they're [TS]

  like I'm alternate Airport pride and [TS]

  altered any further so for the people [TS]

  who appointed these people chasing you [TS]

  may not may not have noticed the reason [TS]

  Darth Vader alters the deal is because [TS]

  in that scene he and Leia share and [TS]

  knowing look and Vader figures out that [TS]

  maybe doesn't figure out the layers [TS]

  related to him but figures out that [TS]

  there's some sort of force thing going [TS]

  on with leia and it's he's not gonna let [TS]

  last a cloud said he wanted to come with [TS]

  them put the princess and the Wookiee on [TS]

  my ship he alters deal because and they [TS]

  show that look they show shot of him [TS]

  shot of her knowing look shared between [TS]

  them at that point Vader realize the [TS]

  system for stuff going on with layer [TS]

  that's why he alters the deals not just [TS]

  arbitrary I'm being mean and this is [TS]

  something that if you don't if you don't [TS]

  understand that every single shot in [TS]

  this movie is significant like the [TS]

  kubrick movie like a Hitchcock movie you [TS]

  will miss that I don't know about the [TS]

  force thing I i think it could be more [TS]

  general than that the ya go what is the [TS]

  value because he wants Luke there's the [TS]

  fact that he has had they stay cher [TS]

  that's that look right before he changes [TS]

  the deal its go back and look at the [TS]

  scene [TS]

  trust me all right I don't think it [TS]

  necessarily has to be about the force i [TS]

  agree with Jason I guess I'd always read [TS]

  it as he needs he continues to have [TS]

  leverage right just in case this whole [TS]

  thing with Luke doesn't plan out he's [TS]

  still got it you're right that that's [TS]

  what people think he's just doing it [TS]

  because well he's got all the power so [TS]

  why should he give any concessions but [TS]

  they inserted that one that shot of him [TS]

  shot of her scene and again [TS]

  Vader's expression doesn't change [TS]

  because he's wearing a mask but there is [TS]

  some action going on there belay as [TS]

  expression is definitely the like he [TS]

  sees that that better is looking into [TS]

  her it's not just she's not looking at [TS]

  him like I don't like you're mean guy [TS]

  you're the bad guy and I'm the good guy [TS]

  she is scared and it's a knowing look [TS]

  shared between them right before that [TS]

  same i really like i really like the [TS]

  the reaction shot between you know when [TS]

  why i love that she freaks out right [TS]

  like you know he's like you know what [TS]

  they're not putting my best friend into [TS]

  this this crazy like carbon freeze thing [TS]

  and he starts like throwing [TS]

  stormtroopers around on us to calm down [TS]

  just like no one's gonna get basically [TS]

  killed right like his debaters got no [TS]

  point for him right he doesn't need to e [TS]

  he could just get is often there would [TS]

  be no problem with that [TS]

  yeah you look at on again haha never [TS]

  ever the secret protector was like no [TS]

  you have to take care of the press and [TS]

  that's a great shot right because she [TS]

  sort of comes around [TS]

  Chewie there and then leans against him [TS]

  a little bit and i love that shot like [TS]

  because there is you know you get the [TS]

  idea in that moment Hans relationship [TS]

  with chewy has transferred to lay right [TS]

  like the cheese been embraced and [TS]

  brought into this family and that [TS]

  there's there's now a bond the strength [TS]

  of the bond between him and chewy is now [TS]

  we sort of passed on to her and and I [TS]

  think that really is a great little [TS]

  tying it together [TS]

  I'm and now chewy is going to be [TS]

  protecting layer with the same intensity [TS]

  in ferocity that he brought to [TS]

  protecting on your next topic [TS]

  no i love you i know at what I don't [TS]

  think we need to dwell on that we all [TS]

  know that seeing ad-lib if we know it's [TS]

  great isn't it great he has a good [TS]

  heroes departure from this film it's not [TS]

  in heroic where he's trying to save [TS]

  somebody's in Harare was doing things [TS]

  emotionally her or because you just [TS]

  discussed his hands and arms are did I [TS]

  you know it doesn't make any sense i [TS]

  know that if i was in handcuffs break [TS]

  the brutal he tries to escape the last [TS]

  moment actually think they take the [TS]

  handcuffs off his arms or his upper arms [TS]

  are like tied with this weird thing [TS]

  behind his back which I never understood [TS]

  every trial the times temporary is very [TS]

  hot at that that's that's removed as [TS]

  he's lowered into the pit but i love the [TS]

  shot when they bring them out and the [TS]

  Argonauts like slam him like tipping [TS]

  over [TS]

  yes common with the music unary alright [TS]

  like all and you see the stable and it's [TS]

  just all man it is terrifying and [TS]

  heartbreaking and everything at the same [TS]

  time and you wonder like oh my god is he [TS]

  a lot you know that is the there's a [TS]

  there's a legitimate moment of his of [TS]

  crap is he just like dead because we're [TS]

  getting towards the end of this movie [TS]

  and it's like oh my god they're not [TS]

  going to [TS]

  even like you know you did we get this [TS]

  increasingly feeling of being over our [TS]

  head as we realize how much longer can [TS]

  they go commit you is they are they [TS]

  going to save him and I and I think that [TS]

  especially when we hit that later scene [TS]

  where the word Boba Fett's ship takes [TS]

  off and you see layers face and you're [TS]

  like holy crap maybe they're how what's [TS]

  going to happen here [TS]

  yeah what's going on but you're being [TS]

  put into carbon freeze [TS]

  what if he doesn't survive is worth a [TS]

  lot to me [TS]

  Empire will compensate you need eyes [TS]

  would've been right mind is gonna be [TS]

  chewy joy this won't help me [TS]

  hey strength will be another time [TS]

  the princess you have to take care of [TS]

  them [TS]

  you hear me [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  I love you [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  it's a great great moment about working [TS]

  like we thought it would and yeah i like [TS]

  all that I mean I love Lando's little [TS]

  turnabout again a little love the little [TS]

  tidbit that the the Imperial officers [TS]

  escorting them is jeremy bulloch who [TS]

  also is the guy inside but with it he [TS]

  disputed I guess the guy who's supposed [TS]

  to be the imperial officer wasn't they [TS]

  didn't have anybody like a you play this [TS]

  role too dark Vader and Luke Skywalker [TS]

  so that's the best thing about this [TS]

  scene is the I iconic red visuals that [TS]

  scene that I know the place where Luke [TS]

  eventually has led to any means Darth [TS]

  Vader is just bathed in blood red light [TS]

  and black stuff and they're not afraid [TS]

  just it's but I'm practically [TS]

  monochromatic there is darkness and [TS]

  there is red light and interesting [TS]

  patterns and futuristic patterns but [TS]

  didn't need to have big columns of [TS]

  lasers in the background or flashing [TS]

  lights or anything like that [TS]

  well at the top there's the like there's [TS]

  like the blue top and then they descend [TS]

  into the red kind of Hell right I love [TS]

  that little elevator he comes up like I [TS]

  was like I was one of those in my house [TS]

  yeah his path to get there is like [TS]

  strange and creepy it's basically the [TS]

  building tension I mean you have you [TS]

  know he didn't see anybody that well any [TS]

  any knows it's a trap to right we have [TS]

  that layers like spilled the beans and [TS]

  he's like well yeah it's the first one [TS]

  she yells it he doesn't get it because [TS]

  he didn't she goes [TS]

  Rex yourself free one more second Luke [TS]

  it's against the trap [TS]

  she can't figure it out you know so get [TS]

  Admiral Ackbar going to do that in the [TS]

  next movie but yea leg gets first dibs [TS]

  out and it was looking with information [TS]

  that it's a trap [TS]

  I'm not someone just right and you know [TS]

  why cause he didn't learn crap [TS]

  Lou knows it's a trap flying in no but [TS]

  yeah I part of you think well because [TS]

  you wonder why doesn't go after layer [TS]

  right like he's there to ostensibly to [TS]

  save his friend right he's gone he's [TS]

  gone right to confront Vader is a [TS]

  haunted yn3l on to a certain extent also [TS]

  because you get the Yolo does tell him [TS]

  that they have to be stopped right now [TS]

  you know so he does have a little bit of [TS]

  conflicting advice there so I I am I [TS]

  like the fact that did the in the battle [TS]

  between Luke and Darth Vader there's a [TS]

  I'm better uses his telekinetic you know [TS]

  basically force power to throw throw big [TS]

  things [TS]

  at Luke which is like you think it's [TS]

  just about having that fancy lightsaber [TS]

  but it's more than that and the end up [TS]

  knocking out a window at which point one [TS]

  of my favorite elements Lucas just [TS]

  pelted by garbage click it's so thick [TS]

  pelted by garbage click it's so thick [TS]

  what what's great is if you ever see the [TS]

  behind-the-scenes stuff there's just [TS]

  guys standing on screaming that [TS]

  arbitrary but before you get that though [TS]

  they missed a bit where so Dan already [TS]

  covered the fact that looked Ross's [TS]

  saver for us my favorite part of that [TS]

  scene is that looked across the sabres [TS]

  vs hardy goes up there later doesn't [TS]

  feel the need to hold the saber with [TS]

  both hands that morning but I could [TS]

  probably you know all right come on you [TS]

  want to do this thing with the [TS]

  lightsaber that I'm not left-handed [TS]

  either haha that is it is exactly i love [TS]

  that he jumps down the stairs though the [TS]

  scene where he jumps down the stairs the [TS]

  Cape flowing behind him it's like holy [TS]

  crap now the thing is eventually in the [TS]

  scene he does feel the need to do with [TS]

  two hands he does get a little nick on [TS]

  the shoulder pisses me off cuts off [TS]

  looks and because of it but it's it's [TS]

  such a great imbalance of power that [TS]

  Vader's so much more powerful here than [TS]

  Luke that he's just like all right for [TS]

  you guys you got his uh his voice in the [TS]

  beginning you can't see them yet you [TS]

  know [TS]

  yeah you have learned much well you're [TS]

  not a Jedi yet the creepy things we're [TS]

  even seeing you see him look draws first [TS]

  Vader's like now Tim one hand for a [TS]

  little while and it escalates and get [TS]

  checked out the window it's a great [TS]

  fight scene you've got that brief moment [TS]

  but he does have that one moment of [TS]

  being taken back where Luke jumps out of [TS]

  the carbon freeze president yeah nailed [TS]

  that wasn't my friend Luke it's him with [TS]

  the hose right and he's like yeah and [TS]

  then moved away from around right buddy [TS]

  any gets two hands with them on the [TS]

  thing it's a Nick on the show like it's [TS]

  a great fight scene in terms of the [TS]

  shifting of the balance of power in the [TS]

  end up the part about that i noticed [TS]

  most of all this time is after Luke goes [TS]

  out the window and pulls himself back up [TS]

  on the gantry he's walking through that [TS]

  hallway and Vader pops out in one of one [TS]

  is in what is one of the generally most [TS]

  startling i think the most like it's [TS]

  just abrupt right at boomers age it [TS]

  exactly [TS]

  there's not a lot of them but that was [TS]

  really effective and when Vader comes [TS]

  out he's hammering him right if two [TS]

  hands watch that scene not only just us [TS]

  he's just like beating the crap out of [TS]

  me is constantly pushing Luke back he's [TS]

  decided this is over i am finishing this [TS]

  guy [TS]

  yeah and hit any so much bigger than him [TS]

  like physical size and he's just [TS]

  crushing him from above [TS]

  yes and is trying to like trying to like [TS]

  dodge retrying uses a small he's got a [TS]

  little agility or whatever and you see [TS]

  that scene where he's like ducking on [TS]

  hitting the railing and he [TS]

  step but he realizes you know crap i am [TS]

  running out of space [TS]

  I'm running out of energy i've already [TS]

  like you know I'm all beaten up torn up [TS]

  and everything you know I'm running on [TS]

  empty and then we get the hand this [TS]

  yeah thats because he has Vader in the [TS]

  shoulder and there's like all I'm having [TS]

  none of that your your hands coming off [TS]

  son Oh silly [TS]

  yeah this is the futility of standing up [TS]

  to the Empire this is what you get when [TS]

  you think that you can play with the big [TS]

  boys [TS]

  he's already running to the end of the [TS]

  spindly little thing hanging over the [TS]

  gas collection chambers or whatever and [TS]

  then he gets nicked my shoulder and he's [TS]

  like I respected that hand thats a [TS]

  bird's going off middle and then we have [TS]

  the sweetener right yeah [TS]

  oh I actually maybe two feet for that d [TS]

  so he's got him on the floor [TS]

  Lucas but this point basically on the [TS]

  ground and Vader's is you know could [TS]

  kill him if he wanted to but Vader's [TS]

  goal is not to kill him this point [TS]

  there's little discernible be destroyed [TS]

  like obi-wan anything happen to the [TS]

  red-hot runoff it's not actually hot [TS]

  okay fine [TS]

  vicetone yellow me but the the red light [TS]

  the red lightsaber he's bringing that up [TS]

  to and Luke's face is sweating the [TS]

  lightsabers right by Luke's face and [TS]

  Lucas edging away [TS]

  this seemed terrified my son the first [TS]

  time he saw it because he's like like [TS]

  when you're little you know when you're [TS]

  at that age people have young kids [TS]

  they're too young to hide their emotions [TS]

  when they're watching a movie at all [TS]

  we are old enough to see the movie like [TS]

  it was like for four-and-a-half when he [TS]

  first saw this but there but they are [TS]

  their little bodies are at the whim of [TS]

  their emotions and yeah he was so [TS]

  terrified for Luke in this moment [TS]

  because he understood lightsabers bad [TS]

  cut you hurt you kill you and it's right [TS]

  near his face and it's getting closer [TS]

  and like as a scary scene it made him [TS]

  terrified and I remember being [TS]

  frightened by what is your frightened [TS]

  for your hero the white David Wright by [TS]

  his face you know why doesn't why [TS]

  doesn't Vader kill him he could kill [TS]

  whatever the the ability of this entire [TS]

  movie in part to terrify small children [TS]

  is that is what one of the things that [TS]

  make smiley successful [TS]

  yeah and every child on his arm yeah and [TS]

  and surprisingly that was not it i don't [TS]

  remember probably music it and didn't [TS]

  really bother my children at all because [TS]

  that was kinda like the release of the [TS]

  tension that was actually like all like [TS]

  the white is over it out if I are white [TS]

  and they start having this talkie part [TS]

  which kids a four-year-old and that you [TS]

  understand but this movie is is is [TS]

  frightening in terms like peril and [TS]

  emotional like you know it's it's [TS]

  emotionally wrenching [TS]

  and there's peril people you care about [TS]

  not so much like a monster is going to [TS]

  get me kind of scary [TS]

  well and and the scene is interesting [TS]

  right because and when we hit the [TS]

  dialogue part a we have the fulfillment [TS]

  of that we realize that Vader despite [TS]

  having someone above him is kind of [TS]

  conniving still right and he has some [TS]

  ulterior motives and agenda and he wants [TS]

  to go he wants he wants to be the guy in [TS]

  charge right he wants to move up in the [TS]

  world and so we get that attempt for him [TS]

  to persuade Luke and bring him over and [TS]

  you know what he thinks is going to do [TS]

  it right is like you know Lucas convince [TS]

  this guy killed my father [TS]

  no matter what I'm not you know I'm not [TS]

  gonna listen to him I hate this guy and [TS]

  then we have the the reveal and what I [TS]

  always found fascinating later on was [TS]

  that how little no one knew you know [TS]

  what the scene was like three people [TS]

  like I think mark hamill james earl [TS]

  jones George Lucas pretty much it [TS]

  and even David Prowse who's in the suit [TS]

  their think Caroline's out [TS]

  well he's and in fact what he says is no [TS]

  obi-wan killed your father [TS]

  yeah like that was the fair with the [TS]

  fake out which makes no sense in the [TS]

  context of the rest of the script had to [TS]

  read it [TS]

  no although I always think it would be [TS]

  it would be a great it sounds so [TS]

  deceptive right in some ways like you [TS]

  could see Vader like throwing that in [TS]

  there is that seed of doubt in the sense [TS]

  the same census you know well we will [TS]

  the same sense as you know and again [TS]

  coming from the perspective of we all [TS]

  know later is his father but you know [TS]

  the first time you see this and and [TS]

  Lucas was talking about this a little [TS]

  bit in the interview i watch with him [TS]

  we're talking about well it you know [TS]

  it's potentially ambiguous do you trust [TS]

  Darth Vader when he tells you I'm your [TS]

  father right or is he just like screwing [TS]

  with you what one little nice touch on [TS]

  the scene that people who haven't seen [TS]

  it 80 million points and 20 million [TS]

  times not notices that he knows [TS]

  everybody does a thing [TS]

  join me and we can rule the galaxy as [TS]

  father and son and makes that fist and [TS]

  you've seen that a lot of the screen [TS]

  shots were made to get the Cape flowing [TS]

  the fist making the Foley artist puts a [TS]

  fist of fists of leather crunching noise [TS]

  when he made a fast and you're settled [TS]

  their tiny piece of Foley he's yelling [TS]

  the wind is howling father-and-son [TS]

  crunch [TS]

  not yet realize your importance only [TS]

  begun to discover your power [TS]

  join me and I will complete your [TS]

  training with our combined strength we [TS]

  can end this destructive conflict and [TS]

  bring order to the galaxy [TS]

  I'll never join you if you only knew the [TS]

  power of the dark side will be one never [TS]

  told you what happened to your father he [TS]

  told me [TS]

  he told me you're guilting me i am the [TS]

  father [TS]

  search your feelings you know to be true [TS]

  you can destroy the Emperor ps4 seeing [TS]

  it is your destiny [TS]

  join me and together we can rule the [TS]

  galaxy as father and son [TS]

  yeah that's that's quality craftsmanship [TS]

  underwear scrunchie gloves and and Luke [TS]

  does have is marc 'animal house is [TS]

  unfortunate [TS]

  oh thats all your group survival [TS]

  actually like that performance his [TS]

  performance where he's like yelling I [TS]

  think they run they run one of the best [TS]

  performances at a mark hamill that you [TS]

  could possibly do it is cut to the bone [TS]

  there right yeah and that's raw and it's [TS]

  over-the-top but you know what it works [TS]

  it does work even if i make fun of it I [TS]

  do like it [TS]

  i I don't I don't think it's even worth [TS]

  making fun of because i think it's a [TS]

  good performance period bottom line he's [TS]

  totally spent he's a little whiny kid [TS]

  didn't know what he was getting into [TS]

  screwed up didn't follow the instructor [TS]

  gotta hand cut off found out this evil [TS]

  guy's father he's he's just his there's [TS]

  nothing left in him he's basically [TS]

  reverting to infancy with this crying [TS]

  and wailing and and it works it works [TS]

  and yet he draws on something inside of [TS]

  himself to basically say I'm not gonna [TS]

  I'm not going to give you and give you [TS]

  what you want which is a great scene [TS]

  that's what makes him a hero in this [TS]

  movie despite screwing up almost [TS]

  everything and getting his butt kicked [TS]

  his heroic in the end he holds to his [TS]

  code right which is no I'm not I'm not [TS]

  falling to the dark side i'm gonna I'd [TS]

  rather die he kills himself basically [TS]

  I'd rather die he doesn't know he's [TS]

  going to live here yeah it was down as [TS]

  far as you see that the first time you [TS]

  assume Luke is going off to bad places [TS]

  and and you look at the expression on [TS]

  his face he's committing suicide in the [TS]

  end they get in the radio drama version [TS]

  he did this man obviously made much more [TS]

  explicit but I you know I love I do love [TS]

  some of the wines in that are in the [TS]

  radio drama for this you know where he [TS]

  basically you know you get the idea like [TS]

  hey I'd rather die and you know Vader's [TS]

  started taunting him for that and you [TS]

  know it has a couple wines like hey I [TS]

  won't be the first person to die to keep [TS]

  you from winning and and then he's just [TS]

  like BAM I'm gone you know and i think [TS]

  that that's and we could we could [TS]

  discuss the evilness of the special [TS]

  edition of the adding these like uh you [TS]

  know whatever but i think i think the [TS]

  originals is fine as it is forgotten [TS]

  about that thank you for reminding sorry [TS]

  John block that out successfully been [TS]

  out [TS]

  that's great i mean yeah i mean that's [TS]

  and I think it's perfectly fine in in in [TS]

  the original even you know that maybe [TS]

  one of the few places that special [TS]

  effect falls down is the following [TS]

  effect but I it doesn't even bother me [TS]

  really it's you know it's because you're [TS]

  caught up and in so much more than just [TS]

  a technicality that lowering musical [TS]

  scale as he falls [TS]

  that's the magician distracting you from [TS]

  the fact that it's not a great Matt and [TS]

  he's kind of you know I always had the [TS]

  laugh at the fact that you get sucked [TS]

  into that tube right he's he's Bob's [TS]

  sliding down the thing he slowed himself [TS]

  down somehow ends up over via which have [TS]

  tour is at the low point right at the [TS]

  bottom of the weathervane yeah that it's [TS]

  a trap though it's a trap door [TS]

  what why is it a trapdoor in a place [TS]

  that arguably no one ever knows why [TS]

  doesn't take the next one is access port [TS]

  that [TS]

  yeah it is scary it is extremely scary [TS]

  and then it's their litterers that the [TS]

  garbage or collects down there and when [TS]

  there's a certain weight of garbage it [TS]

  opens up and it dumps out that's i'm [TS]

  sure that's the answer [TS]

  so it so I want to call it a Lando and [TS]

  also here's a barber a lady here me blah [TS]

  blah [TS]

  this is another reason i think they were [TS]

  establishing this enforcement going on [TS]

  with late because otherwise it's out of [TS]

  the blue that the hot gases that Luke [TS]

  and communicate with layout through the [TS]

  forest yeah that's why I think that look [TS]

  is not give you the exact time stamp [TS]

  that look Jason you looking up [TS]

  afterwards haha alright thank you but so [TS]

  she comes back over the think this has [TS]

  been pointed out by many stand-up [TS]

  comedians but it is it is true when you [TS]

  think about it's kind of strange at the [TS]

  point where uh Han and Leia I don't know [TS]

  if it's the same let me just check out [TS]

  the photo shared some point later in the [TS]

  way you know it's Lando's flying the [TS]

  ship right with ha yes i think that was [TS]

  treating chewy and is also possibly find [TS]

  depending on you know that Lando and [TS]

  chew here in the shipwright and Lando is [TS]

  dressed on is closed now everyone is [TS]

  welcome at the end of the set yes [TS]

  everyone is pointed this out and it's [TS]

  like well dizzy Stefan's life is cause I [TS]

  finally thought of a reasonable [TS]

  explanation for why our wardrobe right [TS]

  nobody's will be worn out of Cloud City [TS]

  he was wearing his Cloud City outfit [TS]

  when they made their escape and related [TS]

  things got more clothes [TS]

  he's got the hand that's that's the [TS]

  settler to smuggler uniform like they [TS]

  are smugglers they kinda like how [TS]

  Cowboys were like the cowboy outfit [TS]

  would like the best in the sheriff's [TS]

  where a particular outfit and old [TS]

  westerns where were your a space [TS]

  smuggler this is what you were [TS]

  yeah it's a small it's a smuggler outfit [TS]

  it's worse than that it's actually they [TS]

  are Lando's cloves [TS]

  he lost them when he lost already got [TS]

  that is really i get my shirt back in [TS]

  with my closet [TS]

  well I i just wanted to say you know we [TS]

  were briefly alluded to the way here [TS]

  missing i love that scene if only you [TS]

  know for the music for the like there's [TS]

  a silence seemed most likely get laid [TS]

  muttering and then where we got Luke [TS]

  muttering we get the music we get the [TS]

  cut to Leia and they're flying out it's [TS]

  a gorgeous scene right that all the [TS]

  filming in that cloud city sequence is [TS]

  awesome right and layers you know we [TS]

  gotta go back and was like are you are [TS]

  you freaking crazy do you know how much [TS]

  it took us to get out of there and to [TS]

  reduce your give him groaning all right [TS]

  then you're like all right go back and [TS]

  then you know we get that flip around [TS]

  the clue the clouds and everything i [TS]

  love how they pick up they have to go up [TS]

  and on the roof and pick him up [TS]

  yeah it's awesome right i love that I [TS]

  love that he's you know they set up this [TS]

  guy right and like Luke's never seen [TS]

  this guy doesn't know him from Adam but [TS]

  it's another help with the park and I [TS]

  guess is better than hanging out here [TS]

  yeah a lot of choices their release back [TS]

  in half subconscious territory that we [TS]

  get in the beginning of off yet again [TS]

  Lucas half [TS]

  yeah and then we get a we get the cut [TS]

  back and forth which is that fast [TS]

  dissolve between luke and vader as well [TS]

  that's yet anyway he's communicating [TS]

  with Vader this money saved that he's [TS]

  communicating with the forest with Vader [TS]

  he's going father-son blah blah you know [TS]

  look basically hangs up on telepathy CBS [TS]

  and converts to also get anything about [TS]

  Ben why didn't you tell me to tell hangs [TS]

  up on Vader mentally yes i like i love [TS]

  that i mean i like that that scene I [TS]

  just where he's just like so probably [TS]

  sitting in the cockpit you know like [TS]

  looking up there and it's just like [TS]

  totally shell-shocked is not done well [TS]

  it's a great moment in 44 camel and you [TS]

  know it to be like holy crap this is all [TS]

  coming crashing down right meanwhile we [TS]

  have the whole problem of them trying to [TS]

  once again get away and they're about to [TS]

  be totally screwed and of course who [TS]

  comes and saves the day that our team no [TS]

  one would listen to see the videos like [TS]

  I don't care what the city central [TS]

  computer told you fix my leg what are [TS]

  you talking about you don't know how to [TS]

  fix the hyperdrive honey just go [TS]

  sometimes it onto it [TS]

  yeah anybody little switch and finally [TS]

  that affect they've been withholding for [TS]

  you yeah I retire move ahead get it [TS]

  finally and then you get that shot right [TS]

  the PIAT shot Peter Vader realize why [TS]

  during why [TS]

  me and him like looking like oh no oh no [TS]

  i just i was two weeks from retirement [TS]

  and then Peter turns around and you're [TS]

  like walks inside the killer and my [TS]

  walks by [TS]

  that's it that's a great great moment [TS]

  and the reason the reason he walks by is [TS]

  because that'sthat's Vader's character [TS]

  seen invader is legitimately upset that [TS]

  he couldn't turn his son Dennis any [TS]

  stops that he just can't even bring [TS]

  himself to kill support everybody I mean [TS]

  any any kind of realizes it's not [TS]

  entitled to all that really that it's [TS]

  not really their fault is like what is [TS]

  it going to do now obviously you know [TS]

  he's he's upset that he that he lost the [TS]

  thing he's a sober breath that he can't [TS]

  he can't bring himself [TS]

  excuse me everythings killing [TS]

  subordinates when they don't do well and [TS]

  Pete gets to live in being returned to [TS]

  the Jedi it brings the US to the most [TS]

  important part of the movie which is [TS]

  when Luke gets his nifty prosthetic hand [TS]

  from another friendly dr. droid the same [TS]

  maybe the same one it be because it's [TS]

  good to see you again sir when we get [TS]

  that nice you know we get that nice [TS]

  moment where Lando's clearly you know [TS]

  Lando is going to try to atone [TS]

  everyone's kind of hopeful when we [TS]

  realize hey we're going back to Tatooine [TS]

  yeah meet with around everyone tattoo [TS]

  him and what do they show you in the [TS]

  background of that scene that story [TS]

  before i think is the first time in [TS]

  these movies a gigantic spiral galaxy we [TS]

  have again widening the scope of saying [TS]

  this is not just about a planet in a [TS]

  place this scope of this story is like a [TS]

  whole galaxy and to give you a big [TS]

  picture [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  yeah I think that's a I think that's [TS]

  just actually bad sciences is I think [TS]

  they wanted to cool backdrop and so [TS]

  they've got a they've got a spiral [TS]

  galaxies like where are they at this [TS]

  point if they can see this file guys I [TS]

  know the holdall traveling whatever [TS]

  that's science but it's you to make any [TS]

  sense but it's beautiful it is really [TS]

  musical cue beautiful music that comes [TS]

  in you you know / / that finale which [TS]

  jason will no doubt overlay over this [TS]

  conversation of course and because it [TS]

  was a general conversation and the fact [TS]

  that again what a-what do we get out of [TS]

  this movie in the end I can see why [TS]

  people might have initial reaction to it [TS]

  might have been like what what what [TS]

  what's going on it's like you know it's [TS]

  the middle part and what we got is that [TS]

  our heroes escaped except for han Solo [TS]

  oh and and didn't die horribly but [TS]

  thatthat's the resolution right there is [TS]

  no real resolution it is a to be [TS]

  continued kind of moment I have to laugh [TS]

  at my cousin Jennie who was it was a [TS]

  teenager at that when it came out and I [TS]

  remember her telling these stories later [TS]

  on because she's like you know 14 or 15 [TS]

  or something and she's like I thought I [TS]

  would die before returning the jelly i [TS]

  was worried i would literally just [TS]

  dropped dead so yeah before turn the [TS]

  chest i came out i would never know what [TS]

  happened because they're just the ship's [TS]

  all fly off and its new and comes up and [TS]

  and you know c-3po and r2 are all [TS]

  polished up and then and it was looking [TS]

  laying in New Hope top style clothes [TS]

  layers back into kind of a new hope ish [TS]

  little outfit Luke has like a have it [TS]

  looks a little bit like is for from New [TS]

  Hope like but we we look at all the [TS]

  characters and it's not as if they have [TS]

  tread water this thing every single [TS]

  person has had an arc with the exception [TS]

  of the droids probably because they're [TS]

  just always droids we've enjoyed have [TS]

  had an arc well they've had they had an [TS]

  adventure story in this c-3po had a [TS]

  disassembly and reassembly our parties [TS]

  are to be eaten by a slug [TS]

  yeah well I benefit that they grow as [TS]

  characters but like Lucas certainly been [TS]

  through a lot as a changed person Han [TS]

  and Leia's relationship was established [TS]

  and everything else and oh you know [TS]

  change from his life of crime and left [TS]

  this thing has become part of the [TS]

  rebellion and Han has ended badly for [TS]

  him and a frozen block on slave one [TS]

  going towards a tattoo [TS]

  put the people who complained of this [TS]

  movie like doesn't have an ending or [TS]

  whatever this this weakness of middle [TS]

  chapters of like it can't resolve the [TS]

  conflict because there's gonna be a [TS]

  third he can't it can't end with them [TS]

  winning any came with him decisively [TS]

  losing the only thing you can do is take [TS]

  the characters for to a very different [TS]

  place where they were at the beginning [TS]

  the movie and I think this movie does [TS]

  that even more so than the other boys [TS]

  because makeup on at the beginning of a [TS]

  new hope and hot the end they're much [TS]

  less different than hot at the beginning [TS]

  of this movie and on the end [TS]

  well it's the subtle it's a subtle pivot [TS]

  that is what you get and instead of a [TS]

  big resolution right so the resolution [TS]

  here is they've managed to get away and [TS]

  as we know especially you know but you [TS]

  can feel it here and then you see it in [TS]

  the third movie is they're about to go [TS]

  on the offensive right they've managed [TS]

  to survive a lot of this bad stuff and [TS]

  and and and some of them have fallen but [TS]

  they're turning it around and now [TS]

  they've got a rendezvous point on [TS]

  Tatooine they're gonna go get on back [TS]

  there going to go on the offensive and [TS]

  and that's the that's what the end is [TS]

  right and that's it that's it just leave [TS]

  a little strange after all the drama [TS]

  that they're sort of like wearing nice [TS]

  clothes and smiling as they fly off but [TS]

  yeah thatthat's that tone is a little [TS]

  strange its preparation but it but [TS]

  that's what's happening is they're big [TS]

  turn the corner look at the shape of a [TS]

  and i'll go back to the shape of this [TS]

  movie which I think negatively is is as [TS]

  John saying in the middle chapter but [TS]

  like again what i was saying look look [TS]

  at the downward descent this entire [TS]

  movie takes right it everything goes [TS]

  down everything get worse and worse and [TS]

  worse until about you know that that [TS]

  last scene we have that sort of you know [TS]

  climactic I am your father scene and and [TS]

  then like that's really it like we have [TS]

  a rock-bottom Luke is literally as low [TS]

  as he can go right with a falling all [TS]

  the way to the center of best men and [TS]

  and then we get that little bit of an [TS]

  upswing just enough to stabilize sort of [TS]

  where we are and say alright that was [TS]

  sort of our day newmont let's turn this [TS]

  around as you're saying go on the [TS]

  offensive and and bring everything home [TS]

  and I think that to me what makes this [TS]

  movie so compelling is watching you know [TS]

  watching that dissent and seeing all [TS]

  all the terrible things and what makes [TS]

  it so fascinating and great as an [TS]

  adventure movie is they don't all just [TS]

  go like well crap might as well keep [TS]

  haha they're starting the entire way not [TS]

  only the fighting but they decide to [TS]

  turn around and they and they show the [TS]

  and they show the rebel fleet at the end [TS]

  they say look here [TS]

  the rebels have reorganized here's their [TS]

  fleet when they zoom out to them in the [TS]

  window is just not a great man either [TS]

  zoom out and they show these are our [TS]

  heroes in the mirror and look they're [TS]

  part of a bigger thing there's an x-wing [TS]

  remember x-wings yeah they're still here [TS]

  too and there's the whole fleet and they [TS]

  do the wipe to the d star wars music the [TS]

  happy star wars music that's you know [TS]

  director of encouragement etre don't [TS]

  like that's the ending credits music [TS]

  it's not like overall sad music they [TS]

  have the overall sad music when they're [TS]

  flying away and we said about how we [TS]

  don't know it's gonna turn out [TS]

  cut to the happy star wars music it's [TS]

  not like it's like the fight continues [TS]

  there you know it's upbeat we hit the [TS]

  upbeat note at the end it was going it's [TS]

  going back to what i was saying about [TS]

  this being you know about model laughter [TS]

  cereals and this being the center [TS]

  section of the serial where they're the [TS]

  they're the sort of individual stories [TS]

  where things keep on getting worse and [TS]

  keep on getting worse and keep on [TS]

  getting worse and oh here's your here's [TS]

  your major hint things are going to get [TS]

  very very different very very fast [TS]

  stay tuned until next time which turned [TS]

  out to be four years later I thinks 3313 [TS]

  it felt what I felt like for well no [TS]

  it'sit's 7788 III and it felt like 900 [TS]

  is what have no my god I felt like a [TS]

  long long time I oh yeah and I i wish i [TS]

  could claim which they claim that i [TS]

  remembered but I was this movie came out [TS]

  a month after I was born [TS]

  Wow almost had the way and was but a wee [TS]

  child and I was but a wee nothing [TS]

  yeah but oh yeah I don't like addendum i [TS]

  know we we talked about it last time but [TS]

  john williams once again turning in not [TS]

  only building on the themes that he [TS]

  established in a new hope [TS]

  but integrating several new themes John [TS]

  mentioned the interior March being [TS]

  absolutely most iconic of them but I [TS]

  think also worth mentioning Yoda's theme [TS]

  which is an excellent sweet that gets [TS]

  used a lot here and and to even better [TS]

  effect in my mind in in Jedi which will [TS]

  will talk about when we come back we get [TS]

  to that but also great [TS]

  individual standalone sweets like the [TS]

  asteroid field are feels great the [TS]

  asteroid field is great that queue at [TS]

  the end we were just talking about is [TS]

  fantastic [TS]

  a lot of have a cloud city and [TS]

  especially i love I oh is it as a [TS]

  teenager I always loved the music for [TS]

  when they're getting escaping Cloud City [TS]

  it's really tense [TS]

  it's done really really well and and [TS]

  Williams you know he's he's obviously [TS]

  uses this this leitmotif style where he [TS]

  draws in these themes and so even though [TS]

  he's got these sweets where he does like [TS]

  you notice the material March whatever [TS]

  strains of those show up in all the [TS]

  other pieces whenever they appear on the [TS]

  screen and I think that's part of what [TS]

  makes his score so indelible and so you [TS]

  know so much fabric of these movies is [TS]

  it really is tied to not just what's [TS]

  happening but the characters in the [TS]

  motivations and the emotions that are [TS]

  sort of going on and it's just it's i [TS]

  think one of my favorite scores to [TS]

  listen to from beginning to end [TS]

  much more so than I think he's either [TS]

  the other movies which I which I enjoy [TS]

  listening to put it I think work better [TS]

  you know I i can sit and listen to [TS]

  individual tracks from those Empire you [TS]

  started off in the beginning the end the [TS]

  whole music tells the story of them of [TS]

  the of the movie itself without even [TS]

  needing you know the dialogue and it's [TS]

  it's so evocative and i think it's it's [TS]

  probably the best work to my mind that [TS]

  he's ever done and one of my son play [TS]

  Star Wars like when he's playing the [TS]

  ships and he doesn't know anyone's [TS]

  watching and these and he's coming [TS]

  something to himself he doesn't call me [TS]

  the star wars-themed he has didn't care [TS]

  much for the good guys and the bad guys [TS]

  that is the star wars song as far as his [TS]

  concern [TS]

  yeah that's fantastic [TS]

  alright we we've reached the end I so [TS]

  did everybody like this movie [TS]

  well I really thought they could have [TS]

  done better maybe the third one all sort [TS]

  of wrap things up and you know be more [TS]

  satisfying maybe Rand and you both said [TS]

  this is your number one all-time movie [TS]

  all genre all everything [TS]

  this is actually my favorite movie of [TS]

  all time yes Frances this is my number [TS]

  one while it is not my number one [TS]

  allmovie all time but I can't pick a [TS]

  number on allmovie all time it's like a [TS]

  three-way tie so this is akin this is a [TS]

  contender if I had to pick one it would [TS]

  be this one followed by lawrence of [TS]

  arabia well what about Jason use did not [TS]

  seem to have it as and has highest [TS]

  I'm so where would you place it on your [TS]

  all-time obviously best Star Wars movie [TS]

  it's the best Star Wars movie it would [TS]

  probably be in my top ten I'm not even [TS]

  beyond that are five top-five uh we [TS]

  should do a movie of just everyone's top [TS]

  five all-time yeah yeah that would be [TS]

  that would be great because I i would [TS]

  have to construct a list i'm pretty sure [TS]

  i'd put in my top that's hard i can get [TS]

  i get to 200 cc because ok i had to [TS]

  construct a five a while back [TS]

  that's the only reason why i have a list [TS]

  to begin with yeah like Raiders of the [TS]

  Lost Ark I like that raiders of the lost [TS]

  ark is myself or wow ok we don't want [TS]

  spoilers we don't want to spoil that [TS]

  we've got once again with deep very deep [TS]

  into a podcast we've got an idea for [TS]

  another podcast will just keep going [TS]

  well just go until the break of dawn in [TS]

  the East Coast and restarting Jedi know [TS]

  and sister all right into it [TS]

  alright I thank you all for spending so [TS]

  much time talking about this movie which [TS]

  is a great movie and I'm glad that end [TS]

  and it's personal favorites of of two of [TS]

  you which is which is a extra special [TS]

  and we'll have to do this again with [TS]

  return of the jedi once we've all [TS]

  recovered but until then I want to thank [TS]

  everybody for listening to this special [TS]

  multi-part extravaganza of the [TS]

  incomparable and in case you've [TS]

  forgotten the voices you were listening [TS]

  to i will thank them now Dan more'n [TS]

  thank you for sharing your welcome and i [TS]

  can't believe i forgot to mention low [TS]

  but although bond but that's it up with [TS]

  the fungus and ok John siracusa thank [TS]

  you for sharing as well I go for another [TS]

  three hours Jason I i know that his [TS]

  tireless is a marathon man serenity [TS]

  called well thank you as well for being [TS]

  here and sharing your perspective on [TS]

  this one [TS]

  thank you Jason maybe force be with you [TS]

  uh-huh thank you always for the [TS]

  uncomfortable i'm jason smell thanks to [TS]

  everybody again for listening [TS]

  we'll see you next time [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  and remember per pupil all-out forgot [TS]