The Incomparable

33: "I Drank What?"

 

  the incomparable podcast episode 33 [TS]

  we're back on the incomparable podcast i [TS]

  am jason smell your host and I am [TS]

  forcibly dragging members of our panel [TS]

  into this podcast which is about one of [TS]

  my very favorite movies of all time I [TS]

  love the the film real genius i love it [TS]

  unconditionally I love it [TS]

  and ironically i love it despite the [TS]

  fact and now given that I knowing who's [TS]

  on this podcast now given its many flaws [TS]

  some of which i will list right now up [TS]

  front which is it has an extremely weird [TS]

  and pointless plot involving a military [TS]

  laser it has some really questionable [TS]

  casting in the in the name of game Jared [TS]

  as Mitch Taylor and it it does have [TS]

  three count em three nineteen eighties [TS]

  musical montages joining me here to talk [TS]

  about real genius and the weird laser [TS]

  thing and the questionable casting and [TS]

  the guy who lives in the basement and so [TS]

  much more are some fine fine and kind [TS]

  people including Dan Morgan who you just [TS]

  heard hi Dan [TS]

  hi Jason Glenn / men who like me is from [TS]

  the eighties I saw this movie and I [TS]

  loved it then and I love it now [TS]

  bless you serenity Caldwell [TS]

  hello Jason hello thank you for watching [TS]

  real genius and John siracusa I'm here [TS]

  for you Jason thank ya hear ya I you [TS]

  will tell me flaws in this movie that i [TS]

  have never noticed in watching a hundred [TS]

  times [TS]

  this is like some kind of reared in [TS]

  Reverse intervention so yeah so [TS]

  dependency meeting i think yeah we [TS]

  should save it and in 1985 there were [TS]

  three summer movies that were science [TS]

  themed there was the absolutely [TS]

  atrocious my science project [TS]

  the the Anthony Michael Hall comedy [TS]

  weird science and and this movie real [TS]

  real genius and and what ended up [TS]

  happening was weird science was a hit my [TS]

  science project was a failure and [TS]

  rightly so and real genius was kind of [TS]

  just kind of floating around and became [TS]

  in the end I think it's fair to say a [TS]

  cult classic because i do mention this [TS]

  movie and people perk up and go oh I [TS]

  love that movie which surprises me [TS]

  because I thought it was just me quite [TS]

  honestly no no it's not it's never just [TS]

  you [TS]

  so you know I I don't even know where to [TS]

  begin with this i could come i can i can [TS]

  i ask you can because I have an idea I [TS]

  was something I want to ask you [TS]

  hands-down just watch this movie is new [TS]

  huh defend the independent know another [TS]

  five games jared is an excellent choice [TS]

  is Mitch Taylor is why they would cast [TS]

  anybody Dave Jarret does not even [TS]

  remotely look like a girl [TS]

  oh so I i guess you know seeing this for [TS]

  the first time as an adult and and i [TS]

  enjoyed parts of the movie and I found [TS]

  parts of it amusing but I guess I'm [TS]

  combined am I find myself perplexed one [TS]

  might say as to why what is your what is [TS]

  this causes the strength of your [TS]

  attachment is just a nostalgia thing or [TS]

  is there there's something in particular [TS]

  that that draws you to this movie you [TS]

  know it's it is a combination of things [TS]

  as you might expect [TS]

  I think you know yes I saw this movie in [TS]

  the theater in the summer of nineteen [TS]

  eighty-five and I didn't actually see a [TS]

  lot of movies in the movie theater when [TS]

  I was a kid because i live in a small [TS]

  town and it was kind of difficult to get [TS]

  to the movie theater believe it or not [TS]

  but um it it i don't think it's just [TS]

  nostalgia I thought that for a while and [TS]

  then as I watched it again and again [TS]

  over the years you know number one is [TS]

  probably that this is one of the rare [TS]

  movies that is about a group of smart [TS]

  people who are being smart and it's it's [TS]

  portrayed positively it's it's not a [TS]

  movie where you know it's not a revenge [TS]

  of the nerds kind of movie or a movie [TS]

  where there's the smart you know [TS]

  socially maladjusted kid who's part of [TS]

  the ensemble there you know this is [TS]

  Pacific tech which is essentially [TS]

  Caltech they're smart people doing smart [TS]

  things and they've got their quirks and [TS]

  all of that but i really like that [TS]

  it's about smart people in there and [TS]

  there you know laser people and they [TS]

  have that crazy inventions and there's [TS]

  the guy who's entering the sweepstakes [TS]

  so that he'll win thirty percent of the [TS]

  prizes a lot of the story really seems [TS]

  to be based on actual stories or famous [TS]

  stories whether real or not that we're [TS]

  circling around Caltech so I think [TS]

  that's part of it you know a lot of the [TS]

  lot of character interaction is is is [TS]

  fun [TS]

  the dialogue is really fun it's not [TS]

  about the plot and that's actually the [TS]

  thing that I remember as I watched it [TS]

  over and over again I I came to realize [TS]

  that clearly the biggest liability in [TS]

  this movie from my perspective is the [TS]

  plot that there is bizarre [TS]

  it doesn't really make sense i mean it [TS]

  holds together just just enough it's the [TS]

  worst i mean it it would be better i [TS]

  think you could argue if there wasn't [TS]

  other than that it's the through line of [TS]

  of the movie because that there are [TS]

  researching the laser beam the whole [TS]

  last 20 minutes the movie other than [TS]

  can't being wired to hear the voice of [TS]

  God to tell him to stop masturbating [TS]

  that the whole movie kind of falls off a [TS]

  cliff because we get these terrible like [TS]

  blue screen shots of a model plane and [TS]

  we get like mitch has got a moustache [TS]

  come all unlike wargames caper yeah [TS]

  exactly it's like well I noticed when [TS]

  watching us how many plots that were [TS]

  there is a teammate but I'm like I'm [TS]

  watching like wait that's a whole thing [TS]

  like wait they just introduced this [TS]

  asian guy we haven't seen before of [TS]

  course she's super smart asian guy who [TS]

  can like freeze the hallway so you can [TS]

  slide in like where'd he come from now [TS]

  he's a critical castmember like a [TS]

  Ghostbusters when they bring in the [TS]

  black guy like halfway through you ever [TS]

  seen before and certainly is a critical [TS]

  component to the story [TS]

  well he's hanging around in the [TS]

  background yeah but but he's you know it [TS]

  is it's like what we've got there [TS]

  there's the lazer team and there's like [TS]

  six of those guys and there's like 10 [TS]

  guys in the dorm plus one woman and it's [TS]

  it is very strange right because there's [TS]

  the Jerry Hathaway plot and there's kind [TS]

  of a can't plot and there's kind of mich [TS]

  redeeming himself plot and the debt and [TS]

  a redemption of chris knight [TS]

  well there's there's two plots involving [TS]

  women sleeping with men for inexplicable [TS]

  reason right was that there's the woman [TS]

  who is the head hydro geniuses women too [TS]

  come off very well this movie [TS]

  enforcement but now it's just the [TS]

  eighties for the other than dat well [TS]

  other than you know Jordan who is one of [TS]

  them but it's Caltech so you know I I [TS]

  kind of accept that that's the mindset [TS]

  that so damned does that make any sense [TS]

  to you that I think I think there are [TS]

  lots of funny lines and some likable [TS]

  characters and you know I you know and [TS]

  that the whole idea of it being a movie [TS]

  about kind of smart people doing [TS]

  smartthings i'm fascinated that as Glenn [TS]

  brought up [TS]

  I mean war games is another like there's [TS]

  this there's this theme and I think [TS]

  probably a lot of it has to do with you [TS]

  know this was a tease the era of like [TS]

  high-tech becoming big the era of things [TS]

  like well star wars by not by which i [TS]

  mean not the movies but like the [TS]

  Strategic Defense Initiative like you [TS]

  know lasers were they on the last r star [TS]

  wars podcast while the threat the threat [TS]

  of you know nuclear war the sort of [TS]

  declining threat of nuclear war but also [TS]

  the Cold War aspect because I think of [TS]

  this i think of war games and I think of [TS]

  short circuit all of which have very [TS]

  similar themes about smart people [TS]

  realizing maybe wait that this I'm just [TS]

  thought I was just making something [TS]

  awesome and it turned out to be used as [TS]

  a weapon this right away i invented this [TS]

  death ray that she used this guy they're [TS]

  kinda used to kill people oh my god [TS]

  what's the same and short-circuit has [TS]

  the exact same plot if I thought this [TS]

  robot because I thought it would be cool [TS]

  and the they turned it into a weapon and [TS]

  like there's definitely a pacifistic [TS]

  streak going through all your movies ran [TS]

  go ahead i was just saying I think it's [TS]

  funny at some point in the movie they're [TS]

  like what did you think this laser was [TS]

  going to be used for yeah yeah well it [TS]

  is all one-upsmanship right it's just [TS]

  that they've been given an assignment by [TS]

  their evil professor william atherton so [TS]

  why not just wait there's a more damning [TS]

  movie there if you take out like that [TS]

  scene at the very beginning where they [TS]

  show them using the like the prototype [TS]

  of Leo we've gotta we gotta build this [TS]

  thing because like we're over budget or [TS]

  whatever and you know overdue like in [TS]

  some ways there's a much more sinister [TS]

  movie if you just frame it all around [TS]

  the idea of these college kids being [TS]

  egged on to create this laser and then [TS]

  don't pull out like the oh by the way [TS]

  it's being used by the military thing at [TS]

  the end and I think in some ways there [TS]

  is much more of a if we're jumped into [TS]

  it along with the thesaurus smart [TS]

  students were you know maybe kind of [TS]

  note in the back of their head but [TS]

  aren't really thinking about that [TS]

  then I think there's there's more [TS]

  interesting thing there but you know [TS]

  that's maybe wrote a book about that and [TS]

  it was called ender's game scoop up so [TS]

  so our way master ichigen I let's talk [TS]

  about him for a little bit he is the [TS]

  he's Jerry Hathaway the professor of [TS]

  lasers I guess at Caltech in this movie [TS]

  lazer ology I believe supposed to be a [TS]

  little seems to be able to be little [TS]

  Carl Sagan like he's got a TV show [TS]

  called everything yes the colon [TS]

  what does it look like and random people [TS]

  running parents know have him right [TS]

  where there's like when this person the [TS]

  science fair and a rocker like oh can I [TS]

  have your autographs [TS]

  ok I think he was perhaps best known for [TS]

  his scientific invention of the shoulder [TS]

  pads this is william atherton actually [TS]

  built like that because I swear it every [TS]

  movie he's got like crazy shoulder pads [TS]

  got big pointy shoulders just you know [TS]

  don't make fun of the man for big plays [TS]

  shoulders don't make fun of him for [TS]

  being the eighties bag extraordinaire [TS]

  yeah well that's the thing diehard [TS]

  diehard real genius and ghostbusters for [TS]

  me that is the pinnacle of avoid methods [TS]

  and these three great parts where he's [TS]

  just a jerk and I love this one the best [TS]

  because he's the most well rounded up a [TS]

  jerk in a way he's realistic as I want [TS]

  to that was like they're absolutely [TS]

  professors exactly like that who abused [TS]

  their students and teaching the classes [TS]

  getting into anything for them steal [TS]

  their work and sell it all from the [TS]

  research money to build big asses [TS]

  there's also a great movie where he had [TS]

  the defense contractor the defense [TS]

  contractor is driving him somewhere on [TS]

  campus for a meeting and a student looks [TS]

  at the car and he takes the defense [TS]

  contractors head and and shoves it down [TS]

  into his up in it into the guy's lap and [TS]

  the guys like what are you doing you [TS]

  could kill this season yet but he saw me [TS]

  it's like so self-centered about the [TS]

  fact that you know he's the famous [TS]

  professor that he's he will do stupid [TS]

  things like the taste almost got himself [TS]

  killed in a car accident but it's great [TS]

  it's a great part and and he has no I [TS]

  mean he has no favourites because it's [TS]

  all about him so there's the suck-up [TS]

  character of Ken to who is very [TS]

  convinced that he and Jerry have a very [TS]

  title [TS]

  action ship but in fact can't really [TS]

  give Jerry what he wants which is this [TS]

  no major don't call me by my first thing [TS]

  I guess it goes from Allah God to Jerry [TS]

  to you to the cleaners as the wine goes [TS]

  I can I could be here all night doing is [TS]

  the can is the absolute like it you [TS]

  could say most of the characters movie i [TS]

  think that section where the strength to [TS]

  the movies most of the characters in [TS]

  this movie and most the plot are [TS]

  absolutely cookie cutter 1980 [TS]

  standard-issue characters and ken is one [TS]

  of the worst a lot is that like [TS]

  unbelievable [TS]

  can a person like even Jordan is semi [TS]

  believable compared to can't [TS]

  and yet somehow they put all those [TS]

  things together the box and shake them [TS]

  and it's appealing it's funny it doesn't [TS]

  take itself too seriously at times the [TS]

  end it does but it's sort of silly and [TS]

  stupid stuff there's like petitions and [TS]

  bathing suits you might show editions [TS]

  student because it's a very important [TS]

  distinction that has made my knees are [TS]

  not conditions where doesn't get more [TS]

  petitions as Bryan Adams plays in the [TS]

  background and they do water slides and [TS]

  in an auditory everything in the [TS]

  eighties in this movie it is it but it's [TS]

  not awful it's really enjoyable as [TS]

  watching it [TS]

  there's some dull points in the end is [TS]

  kind of dumb you know but it's still I [TS]

  really like all that was really fun to [TS]

  watch [TS]

  partly I mean the end on a high note you [TS]

  know Housefull popcorn you can't you [TS]

  can't you know lose the house full of [TS]

  popcorn so that is I gotta say it's it's [TS]

  very nostalgic for me in a weird way [TS]

  because my father taught at Caltech XO [TS]

  from from age three or four to age 16 [TS]

  I came to he's a music music music [TS]

  professor and he held the great club so [TS]

  I was on campus pretty much three to [TS]

  five days a week from age 42 age 16 so [TS]

  seeing like the first the first third of [TS]

  the movie is almost very very much wait [TS]

  wait a second I that's this all seems [TS]

  far too familiar and and then the [TS]

  petition school which is oh so cleverly [TS]

  disguised for pc which is down the [TS]

  street the public Community College it's [TS]

  just is it was very strange for me to [TS]

  watch [TS]

  did you notice the big hole in the [TS]

  statue in the center of campus that was [TS]

  filled their binary laser yes [TS]

  oh sure that's I'm sure thats stolen [TS]

  definitely happens I mean random laser [TS]

  part and and laser paths to laser [TS]

  parties [TS]

  oh sure well they have the little laser [TS]

  splitter that Sun lights up the sign [TS]

  that says that there's a party of what [TS]

  else would you do with a laser certainly [TS]

  by use it as a weapon [TS]

  I mean it's amazing that they had all [TS]

  those mirrors just planted around can [TS]

  campus Jesse Hayes was a hard no no it [TS]

  wasn't that was a setup did you may have [TS]

  less yes but that was so sorry they kind [TS]

  of gloss over it that was definitely the [TS]

  high jinks of chris knight genius [TS]

  student who is ok so let's let's get to [TS]

  that val kilmer who's gone on to be in [TS]

  many other movies it's everything I you [TS]

  know I i will be if it wasn't it work [TS]

  for val kilmer than this movie might [TS]

  have might have taken no but i think it [TS]

  makes it so he had a delightful this I [TS]

  think this is the best thing that you [TS]

  know the best performance that he's [TS]

  given I I think he's I think when you [TS]

  think about his career and you think [TS]

  about some of the other things I I think [TS]

  he missed a real opportunity to be [TS]

  funnier and more things and the [TS]

  character is great too because this is [TS]

  this interesting you know he is he is [TS]

  literally what gave Jared Mitch Taylor [TS]

  was he was a kid brought in two young [TS]

  totally maladjusted and has basically [TS]

  decided whether he's burned out or he [TS]

  just decided it doesn't matter anymore [TS]

  and he's gonna misbehave really [TS]

  interesting character yet at the end you [TS]

  know he is smart and he does have a [TS]

  breakthrough and it does you know it [TS]

  doesn't matter to him that he graduate [TS]

  and you know I I think Dan is absolutely [TS]

  right without Val Kilmer and without [TS]

  this you know the character the way it's [TS]

  written this movie would not work did [TS]

  absolutely i will say the killers got [TS]

  out some other way I feel like he is [TS]

  better when he's in a role that lets him [TS]

  flex his comedic muscles a little more I [TS]

  think kiss kiss bang guess in recent [TS]

  versus another fantastic val kilmer role [TS]

  and that's because he gets to sort of [TS]

  the roles where he doesn't have to take [TS]

  himself too seriously because anybody [TS]

  who saw this Batman appearance you are [TS]

  tombs tombstone which is layout death [TS]

  but but Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is he's [TS]

  great in that and I also throughout the [TS]

  state as one of my favorite val kilmer [TS]

  movies which is unusual sort of a [TS]

  ridiculous I [TS]

  love it that's the mutilator fantastic [TS]

  movie john syracuse you've been [TS]

  strangely silent on Val Kilmer first I [TS]

  don't like he's done this frantic real [TS]

  genius character like a lot of times [TS]

  after this movie maybe he's done it [TS]

  before this movie but you know the [TS]

  frantic valve cameras kind of crazy [TS]

  this may have been the first incarnation [TS]

  of that character but he was seeing in [TS]

  many other movies and I think that's [TS]

  what makes kiss kiss bang bang so great [TS]

  is because he doesn't play frantic val [TS]

  kilmer he plays you know a different [TS]

  character actually plays a character who [TS]

  is also very funny but funny in a very [TS]

  different way than then the wacky [TS]

  hijinks see irreverent Val come about [TS]

  camera basically bart simpson's I must I [TS]

  must not have seen the the wacky val [TS]

  kilmer movies that one so before I mean [TS]

  looking as filmography he starts off in [TS]

  top-secret we have a wacky val kilmer [TS]

  absolutely he goes to real genius and [TS]

  then he flips around totally of plays [TS]

  Iceman and I'm going which is a totally [TS]

  non communicable really yeah and that is [TS]

  Jim and that is jim morrison the doors I [TS]

  don't know if you skip willow well our [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  Elmer right there and then the doors to [TS]

  stone deadly Batman Forever using heat [TS]

  though I mean that's speculative my [TS]

  favorite series movies with him and then [TS]

  actually I like two men will out till I [TS]

  also like to minimum or recently in [TS]

  Spartan the david mamet movie which is [TS]

  again a a different that they totally on [TS]

  you know a totally serious val kilmer [TS]

  role i was going to say I was gonna be [TS]

  proud of dan at the beginning of this [TS]

  because he was coming in and saying I [TS]

  don't understand why you guys liked this [TS]

  movie it's not that good i was like yeah [TS]

  that's my guy [TS]

  no but then he backed off a little bit [TS]

  no I mean I'm not saying I I don't say [TS]

  again I said you know I maintain that I [TS]

  think val kilmer holds it together but I [TS]

  do agree that it's entirely compared to [TS]

  compared to many of the other eight [TS]

  movies that you know I've seen grew up [TS]

  and enjoyed i mean granted short-circuit [TS]

  not a great movie but i don't know i [TS]

  love short-circuit and maybe that it's [TS]

  largely tempered by nostalgia but i [TS]

  think i think there's some good stuff [TS]

  there so I saw this movie is exactly the [TS]

  right age i think i think it was around [TS]

  10 or 11 and that's if you're 10 or 11 [TS]

  and your nerdy this [TS]

  and you're in the AIDS this is probably [TS]

  a good movie for you is not a 14-ounce [TS]

  out tonight was the first time I'd seen [TS]

  it up again like decades and so I I [TS]

  remember loving it as a kid but didn't [TS]

  really remember much about it but it's [TS]

  one of those experiences when you re [TS]

  watching movie where yeah I didn't [TS]

  realize [TS]

  first of all I realize that I have the [TS]

  script memorized because I do whatever I [TS]

  was gonna say a word for that fucking [TS]

  another guy like while I must this must [TS]

  have really had an effect on me but if [TS]

  you'd asked me before the movie named a [TS]

  line from this movie i could maybe two [TS]

  but then as they're saying Mike I'm [TS]

  psychic i know what everyone is going to [TS]

  say and you realize how many little [TS]

  snippets of dialogue or in that are in [TS]

  your head that i had previously before [TS]

  watching this done i would have not been [TS]

  able to identify where these things came [TS]

  from yep and you see that I got that [TS]

  that's where that comes from now all [TS]

  that said I finished watching the whole [TS]

  moving-in like this was not a great [TS]

  movie at it first of all I i see all of [TS]

  the 80 stuff that didn't bother me in [TS]

  the eighties was of its time but now [TS]

  really great sunday that the ridiculous [TS]

  treatment of women that the illogic the [TS]

  wacky montages and stuff like that and i [TS]

  was thinking about you know it's not [TS]

  that I dislike did just sort of you know [TS]

  clich├ęs of eighties movies you know but [TS]

  it's just that that they're they're done [TS]

  so much better now is thinking like [TS]

  donnie darko is a better eighties movie [TS]

  than any ats coupe [TS]

  no i mean because Donny Darko does all [TS]

  the things that able to write down to [TS]

  this that to the musical montage with [TS]

  the exact same song at the end this [TS]

  movie with right for the wedding singer [TS]

  the wedding singer was actually was like [TS]

  a reconstructed eighties movie that try [TS]

  to out ATZ movie exactly with modern [TS]

  interpretations think we've improved [TS]

  upon the form but then the second thing [TS]

  was that i don't i don't think the [TS]

  comedy was really landing for me as an [TS]

  adult like when i was a kid i think you [TS]

  know I found these lines hilarious and [TS]

  clever and you know but that's an [TS]

  interesting point because that you know [TS]

  I felt like listening to the to the the [TS]

  sort of the one-liners and stuff that [TS]

  what the comedy tries to evoke almost [TS]

  I'm a Marx Brothers like a gradual mark [TS]

  step humor like the learning and reading [TS]

  that cable the license plate thing for [TS]

  example I call you you know my office to [TS]

  the same thing like 22 my underwear to [TS]

  put license put your underwear I mean [TS]

  it's like a it's like the shot in the [TS]

  arm around the left for me to gain [TS]

  weight yeah yeah i mean and i think it's [TS]

  you know it's not as good as graduate [TS]

  marks [TS]

  well it's funny you should mention that [TS]

  one of the writers of this movie [TS]

  actually wrote he was part of the sucker [TS]

  Abrams sucker kind of factory and wrote [TS]

  various parody movies including I [TS]

  believe brain donors which is the mark [TS]

  modern attempted to a modern Marx [TS]

  Brothers movie which with a John Tudor [TS]

  oh I think it was a complete failure but [TS]

  it they actually did one of the one of [TS]

  the writers it's hard to pull a Marx [TS]

  Brothers movie without the Marx Brothers [TS]

  yes it's awfully awfully hard [TS]

  so John what I'd say about the about the [TS]

  dialogue is I think there are jokes in [TS]

  this movie that work better for me when [TS]

  I was a kid but that but some of the [TS]

  dialogue has stuck with me and it's not [TS]

  it's not the stupid jokes really and I i [TS]

  guess that would be the same sort of [TS]

  effect that I have with them with uh the [TS]

  princess bride where where a lot of the [TS]

  older don't you bring that a lot [TS]

  absolutely you dare [TS]

  absolutely I i quote real genius just as [TS]

  not just for because he brought war [TS]

  games it's what I was gonna ask you so [TS]

  compare ok there's so much better the [TS]

  more games it's not even like you can't [TS]

  oh no yeah ya do that to me [TS]

  wargames is my eighties movie you can't [TS]

  do that they're both law and I've [TS]

  already thrown the plot of this movie [TS]

  under the bus because the plane and the [TS]

  and the Air Force Base and all that is [TS]

  just atrocious but think about this [TS]

  these movies do have so much in common [TS]

  in terms like defense industry hacker [TS]

  smart kid type things I think about this [TS]

  but can you name a single moment your [TS]

  real genius that is remotely close to [TS]

  being as emotionally true as any moment [TS]

  war games like there's just there's just [TS]

  nothing there and and real genius it's a [TS]

  glib babies comedy it doesn't take [TS]

  itself seriously it's fine but there is [TS]

  no emotional core of truth anywhere in [TS]

  this movie where it's war games war game [TS]

  stands up to this day as as the truth of [TS]

  being that kid in that situation [TS]

  obviously the situation itself is [TS]

  ridiculous but the truth about how the [TS]

  people feel in any particular situation [TS]

  makes war games work despite the [TS]

  ridiculous preposterous plot these two [TS]

  movies here is that one of them works [TS]

  when you're a kid and doesn't work when [TS]

  you're all the other one works when [TS]

  you're kidding when your adult all the [TS]

  things that are ridiculous you're [TS]

  willing to forgive because because the [TS]

  heart is still there when you also have [TS]

  you know the only way to win is not to [TS]

  play which is such a great life but it's [TS]

  it's it's have your hands but you shall [TS]

  feel for the characters you feel you to [TS]

  identify [TS]

  I with magic character and you identify [TS]

  with you know even that the professor [TS]

  Falken who lost his child and everything [TS]

  all that is it all that works [TS]

  it'sit's the ridiculous story the plot [TS]

  is still ridiculous but everybody is [TS]

  slightly less cartoonish the military [TS]

  people are slightly less so sure they [TS]

  are in this movie and well situation [TS]

  there and lightly less cartoonish you're [TS]

  right you're right the guy from northern [TS]

  exposure in the whopper supercomputer [TS]

  are very much more attached to reality [TS]

  that I mean there's a screwball comedy [TS]

  aspect to real genius that is not [TS]

  present anymore games so so it's not [TS]

  necessarily a fair comparison [TS]

  straight-up that's I mean it's like I [TS]

  think I was going to complain about [TS]

  though the the screwball comedy aspect [TS]

  of it so jason said before little slight [TS]

  adjustment on this podcast you asked him [TS]

  what he was thinking I mean the ones on [TS]

  you [TS]

  well he was silent i know he was winding [TS]

  up the longer I let him not talk the [TS]

  worst it was gonna pitch it certainly [TS]

  can I just draw a random thing that [TS]

  neither here nor there [TS]

  I know it can someone tell me who the [TS]

  character of milton is because i was [TS]

  Seattle music scene of a deadly bite [TS]

  I know it's dean devlin but I couldn't I [TS]

  couldn't identify him while watching the [TS]

  movie [TS]

  yeah he's he's on the scene the lecture [TS]

  that I've noticed no no it's the scene [TS]

  that I noticed is it's in the student [TS]

  beautician swimming pool tanning [TS]

  invitational seen there there's a he's [TS]

  one of the guys in that group and I [TS]

  think he's in some other seems like the [TS]

  scene where I mean in many ways this [TS]

  this screenplay appears to have been [TS]

  constructed around anecdotes about wacky [TS]

  hijinks at Caltech and and so that's one [TS]

  of them and the guy who stands up and [TS]

  screams and then leaves and then nobody [TS]

  pays attention to him as he runs out [TS]

  which I've been told actually happened [TS]

  in and that is a fairly accurate [TS]

  portrayal yeah it happens on a regular [TS]

  basis [TS]

  I i went by the youngest to that in [TS]

  college i think i actually have seen [TS]

  that apology but I wasn't sure whether [TS]

  was just a real to this reference when i [TS]

  was about to watch the film i was [TS]

  looking up something online and I found [TS]

  a hole like three page list of here are [TS]

  all of the things that are based on cal [TS]

  tech stuff from real genius or hear the [TS]

  locations that are trying very poorly to [TS]

  mimic Celtic locations [TS]

  these are the graffiti from daddy house [TS]

  that they act [TS]

  we pulled off of daddy house and [TS]

  appliqued into the into pramanas campus [TS]

  you all right now I want to I want to [TS]

  try to get us back to a peaceful [TS]

  standing where it's something we can all [TS]

  agree on one with a science in the movie [TS]

  because i was surprised re-watching and [TS]

  i watch the number of times watched it [TS]

  when it first came out the number times [TS]

  since but we watching it I was like the [TS]

  science didn't bother me which is rare [TS]

  for a film that supposed to be about [TS]

  geeks usually its total garbage and I [TS]

  know there are lots of gobbledygook in [TS]

  it but the most of the the whole focus [TS]

  of it and like even the lab work and [TS]

  everything it didn't bug me it didn't [TS]

  look totally faking ridiculous to me and [TS]

  I was surprised by that my red my memory [TS]

  it was it was just some kind of [TS]

  concocting super laser stupid laser crap [TS]

  but even though they were speaking sort [TS]

  of nonsense or seemed like there was [TS]

  nonsense that sounds like a good turn [TS]

  kernel of truth in it so it was it was [TS]

  there a kernel of truth in the popcorn [TS]

  seen oh no that's my that's my [TS]

  subconscious making that ship [TS]

  exactly we are wikipedia says [TS]

  Mythbusters tried to see if you get mad [TS]

  a popcorn to explode house and [TS]

  apparently you can't answer is no no it [TS]

  just burns just burn natural your [TS]

  science question where's your precious [TS]

  science now that I believe they built a [TS]

  fake house specifically for that scene [TS]

  and then spent three months [TS]

  no it's it's a big it's a it was an [TS]

  actual house in the movie house is being [TS]

  but it has like open parts they built it [TS]

  to do what it does in the movie because [TS]

  a real house wouldn't do that and then [TS]

  apparently some internet the studio had [TS]

  to spend three months popping popcorn [TS]

  bastard that guy then screamed and ran [TS]

  out of the he did it was it was it was [TS]

  strange know your i think that the [TS]

  physics isn't exactly right but they did [TS]

  actually have some science consultants [TS]

  to talk about like what would be the [TS]

  would be involved [TS]

  you're a laser the developer and you [TS]

  were trying to find different different [TS]

  molecules or elements to use in the [TS]

  construction of the laser just so they [TS]

  would get that sort of right it doesn't [TS]

  you know in a movie that is not striving [TS]

  for incredible realism it doesn't [TS]

  thankfully they're very there's only one [TS]

  scene where they do stupid things with [TS]

  computers and I know this will be here [TS]

  dear john start where there where they [TS]

  managed to hack through the government [TS]

  of the day there's a party at 668 yeah [TS]

  like 30 minutes taking all texts [TS]

  hours if you go through every possible a [TS]

  letter combinations including uppercase [TS]

  and lowercase so it doesn't it doesn't [TS]

  bother people as adults though we're in [TS]

  a technical field of it that they make [TS]

  movies will strive like this to get the [TS]

  details right but they'll never they'll [TS]

  never make the actual work of of doing [TS]

  technical or science things a dramatic [TS]

  part of the movie it seems like very [TS]

  very good for he's not far enough [TS]

  they'll do it they'll do it with stuff [TS]

  like almost anything else sports for [TS]

  sure you can have a wacky movie about [TS]

  sports the respect sports that takes it [TS]

  seriously and it makes an integral part [TS]

  of movie like the progression of skill [TS]

  and a sport in a movie that's an easy [TS]

  sell right now okay i went out i will [TS]

  throw out i will throw out a [TS]

  counterexample which is sneakers which [TS]

  is a great movie that does do technology [TS]

  fairly accurately albeit having a it's [TS]

  not the technology part of it is just [TS]

  that like showing how the people who do [TS]

  this for a living actually work and the [TS]

  dramatic aspects that obviously you've [TS]

  removed the boring aspects of it so well [TS]

  so so John in this movie one of the [TS]

  things I like about it is that they do [TS]

  make some attempts to make the act of of [TS]

  not just inspiration although there is [TS]

  that it you know the moment where val [TS]

  kilmer you know his his way of stealing [TS]

  coffee from the vending machine by [TS]

  freezing carbon dioxide with liquid [TS]

  nitrogen and it falls out and he has [TS]

  this idea that if he freezes the the the [TS]

  salt you know the material he's using [TS]

  for the laser he might be able to make [TS]

  it work but there are several yes i'll [TS]

  grant you musical montage is because of [TS]

  course there are where where he and [TS]

  Mitch are working on the laser project [TS]

  and trying different things and it burst [TS]

  into flames at a couple of points and [TS]

  and it does seem that this movie is [TS]

  trying to get across some of that it's [TS]

  actually you know they're actually [TS]

  trying to figure out how to build this [TS]

  laser at you which you know you don't [TS]

  usually see so you know there i think [TS]

  some attempt is made here to show these [TS]

  people actually performing science in [TS]

  something vaguely resembling reality [TS]

  instead of having it happen off-screen [TS]

  or you know in some other kind of bogus [TS]

  way to the main thing i was referring to [TS]

  with the with the with the bad sciences [TS]

  I can't really fault this movie for [TS]

  because it's not about [TS]

  this aspect of the science visit did try [TS]

  to do so with the laser sign so when [TS]

  they did the computer science part of it [TS]

  in this policy and all more reason and [TS]

  computers were not a central part of the [TS]

  movie so it's really not a problem this [TS]

  with you but whenever they have a movie [TS]

  they're showing anyone does anything [TS]

  with software it's always you can just [TS]

  take your your magic code and uploaded [TS]

  and it runs right the first time so [TS]

  we're going to take your code and we're [TS]

  gonna install it on some piece of [TS]

  hardware that you've never seen before [TS]

  and it's gonna do some amazing things [TS]

  going to completely alter how it works [TS]

  and it's going to work on the very first [TS]

  time which is which is far removed from [TS]

  how actual hardware and software work as [TS]

  it could possibly be it's like now wait [TS]

  a minute to two things two things first [TS]

  that's the will smith theory of coding [TS]

  of course of Independence Day that's the [TS]

  ultimate example [TS]

  no no they wrote that software they [TS]

  wrote that software was their system [TS]

  they develop that was up on the plane [TS]

  John's trying to make a broader point [TS]

  because but there is the one with other [TS]

  than when they're hacking into the you [TS]

  know defense mainframe is glenn's right [TS]

  you know the idea here is that they [TS]

  built the system [TS]

  it doesn't matter of you built it does [TS]

  not matter you know how you'd have to [TS]

  sit there and test [TS]

  let's override this thing to point a [TS]

  different target and they would have to [TS]

  test that with the actual piece of [TS]

  hardware in the field millions and [TS]

  millions of times before they got a bug [TS]

  having to look at the right Laslo built [TS]

  an emulator the last was a genius [TS]

  there's no such thing is that kind of [TS]

  genius everybody's code doesn't work [TS]

  it's real genius John not big dude [TS]

  that's the worst it's not the not a [TS]

  fault of this movie I'm just saying in [TS]

  general you see this in in lots of [TS]

  movies where it is basically because the [TS]

  screenwriter needs a way to get from [TS]

  point A to point B and and you get the [TS]

  you know how do I solve this problem i [TS]

  know we will hack into the system and [TS]

  it's lazy and it's completely wrong [TS]

  in most cases all this special program [TS]

  that will take over and do something [TS]

  amazing that you know to to do that [TS]

  thing amazing from scratch would be [TS]

  impossible to do on the first try let [TS]

  alone like break into another thing that [TS]

  the best example and give us from your [TS]

  previous podcast for you were dubious [TS]

  about the the old wives tale about also [TS]

  lifestyle with the legend about [TS]

  Halloween Elsa that he just right [TS]

  straight through and doesn't revised and [TS]

  as a writer you're like yeah okay right [TS]

  whatever that's true that is true it's [TS]

  nothing that's why I know but people [TS]

  people people were dubious about it even [TS]

  a short story length like yeah sure but [TS]

  come on like never goes back and edit [TS]

  you know it's even [TS]

  more ridiculous to think that you know [TS]

  that a programmer do that because a [TS]

  writer it's like well doesn't have to [TS]

  execute you know if the writing is not [TS]

  as good as as you want and what it was [TS]

  if your grammar and sentence and then [TS]

  you're gonna tell it to tell the car [TS]

  McCarthy but but for programs the [TS]

  average never bugs / line is like a one [TS]

  bug every hundred lines or something you [TS]

  can write 2 million lines of code with [TS]

  no bugs not going to happen would have [TS]

  been a very different movie that you [TS]

  have this this movie is strangely not [TS]

  not a major offender in this as opposed [TS]

  to almost every other movie on this [TS]

  subject in which it is it is a big [TS]

  offender in the computer area but it's [TS]

  not it's so tangential to the plot that [TS]

  it's supposed to be like yeah and then [TS]

  there's this computer stuff that happens [TS]

  see but you know and that's one of the [TS]

  reasons that I like real geniuses I feel [TS]

  like this is this is this is the movie [TS]

  we're the only ones in it there is no [TS]

  they're not really put in opposition of [TS]

  other than the head military men it's [TS]

  just them and their internal douchebags [TS]

  like right can write audition right but [TS]

  they're in the family there n and their [TS]

  the heroic people and then the the then [TS]

  there's Jerry and can't I want to talk [TS]

  about last little bit just because i [TS]

  think one of the things that people [TS]

  remember when I mentioned this movie is [TS]

  that there's the guy who lives [TS]

  underneath the dorm and and that john [TS]

  grise who is who plays Laszlo hits is [TS]

  like in everything but he's the he's [TS]

  like the guests he's the guest actor [TS]

  extraordinaire and I thought it was [TS]

  funny because right before i watch this [TS]

  I didn't realize he played he played [TS]

  Laszlo and I knew I know him from a [TS]

  dozen other stuff when i was growing up [TS]

  he was on the show the Pretender he had [TS]

  a moment a story or a sort of a major [TS]

  role on that he's Ben's father on lost [TS]

  yeah and most recently I saw him in a [TS]

  guest starring role on supernatural [TS]

  which I thought you would be amused at [TS]

  wow it will do [TS]

  Michael obviously means the word clearly [TS]

  us we really is everywhere but this is [TS]

  this is a defining role every time I see [TS]

  him in a movie like it as well and again [TS]

  this is a movie i had i had almost no [TS]

  memory out but I sure remember level [TS]

  he's like the booger character from from [TS]

  register nerds the booger remember even [TS]

  like everything that I think of him as [TS]

  her violin yeah right from moving more [TS]

  appropriate I'm sure but but last night [TS]

  so I do I say hey its last low [TS]

  but I'm interesting I mean people [TS]

  remember there's there's that memorable [TS]

  scene where they in the closet there's [TS]

  the strange little cart that takes you [TS]

  down and into his lair and then also [TS]

  part of his story is that he's entering [TS]

  the frito-lay sweepstakes enter as often [TS]

  as you like [TS]

  so he does and he figures he figures [TS]

  he'll win sixty percent of the prizes [TS]

  but he only wins forty percent of the [TS]

  prizes and thirty-two percent yeah and [TS]

  he says I gotta figure that one out [TS]

  because there's something wrong with his [TS]

  statistics but that's also based on a [TS]

  true story that somebody i believe at [TS]

  Caltech discovered one of these [TS]

  interests often as you like sweepstakes [TS]

  and did a mass the punch card to meet ya [TS]

  in person [TS]

  yeah which is now the rules have changed [TS]

  in the entryway because somebody figured [TS]

  out how they could gain the system and [TS]

  they just toss that in there kind of [TS]

  weirdly and randomly he ends up in a [TS]

  Winnebago it was predictive because you [TS]

  know the wired article recently about [TS]

  how lottery systems can be gained if you [TS]

  know a certain you know with a certain [TS]

  efforts around people are starting to [TS]

  win statistically improbable someone [TS]

  like what four hundred thousand dollar [TS]

  prizes in a row and I thought about [TS]

  about last leg return didn't love the [TS]

  best part of the wired article is [TS]

  explaining that how was a [TS]

  money-laundering operation for the mob [TS]

  and you know this this is example of it [TS]

  was a minor factor and the just plain [TS]

  old corruption was really everyone money [TS]

  was coming but it was a it was a stats [TS]

  professor I think who figured it out or [TS]

  some other some science as a whole bunch [TS]

  of people breaking the scratch games and [TS]

  yeah but then everything revise them you [TS]

  can make a movie about that real [TS]

  statistics and would all be about [TS]

  lottery and maybe this kind of with no I [TS]

  think you could you could do with the [TS]

  scratch ticket thing you can make that [TS]

  into a movie pretties we would watch [TS]

  them to the algorithm watch them at [TS]

  whiteboards working out algorithms that [TS]

  mild ours to be two-thirds the move now [TS]

  because it moved the movie is about that [TS]

  that he figures out the scratch game in [TS]

  the beginning and the movie is about how [TS]

  you know so once you have this knowledge [TS]

  of you cheat your not cheap to become [TS]

  fabulously wealthy and then can you know [TS]

  that's the movie so they try and they [TS]

  tried to make that movie it was called [TS]

  21 it was based on bringing down the [TS]

  house [TS]

  oh yeah and it was really really [TS]

  terrible because I as we have learned [TS]

  you even if you have kevin spacey a [TS]

  movie can't really show people trying to [TS]

  counter count cards reduces together is [TS]

  what there's another poker mood poker [TS]

  movie to wasn't there [TS]

  rounders a good program movie [TS]

  I was an excellent for as my favorite [TS]

  Park movie oh my god would you like [TS]

  something I'm grounder sam sanders is a [TS]

  good movie [TS]

  that's a very own you know John rounders [TS]

  doesn't have nearly the emotional depth [TS]

  at work it does i think i think it does [TS]

  i think that you feel you feel for you [TS]

  know the the loser friend always pulling [TS]

  them into the bad games you feel for him [TS]

  when he's getting beat down by the the [TS]

  cops when they are the cops on out the [TS]

  cheating and the cops game I feel like [TS]

  that was a solid movie [TS]

  the only thing ridiculous and movies [TS]

  John Malkovich's character but it's [TS]

  ridiculous in a good way we're talking [TS]

  about the movies with this time but I [TS]

  feel like there's like you know there's [TS]

  like that another trip but it's like [TS]

  Tron and more games which precede this [TS]

  and then and then real genius and [TS]

  they're all that same the same genre of [TS]

  film that sort of came when I mean it [TS]

  was the eighties part of it the montage [TS]

  of stuff we talked about [TS]

  there's also like what in the nineties i [TS]

  was trying to think of films the [TS]

  nineties that were like this movie in [TS]

  jurassic park with that terrible scene [TS]

  with the girls [TS]

  hacking the unix system they're like [TS]

  flying over the next file system in 3d [TS]

  visualization is the actual purpose are [TS]

  I know it's real but it's like I know [TS]

  unix she says don't forget the quicktime [TS]

  the video conference that's actually a [TS]

  QuickTime movie where you can see the [TS]

  progress bar the quicktime movie yet [TS]

  with a little scrubber what you see when [TS]

  the scrubber reaches the end time ends [TS]

  that's the secret that movie had a dress [TS]

  or kills my god it's really a hard [TS]

  sci-fi movie but with other stuff [TS]

  because I mean the recipe also bring [TS]

  that ridiculously but do we get the [TS]

  blockbuster area where you couldn't do [TS]

  movies that were this is the caltech [TS]

  version of your eighties team movie [TS]

  right i mean that that was a eighties [TS]

  team move them was a thing right in John [TS]

  you can apply that formula to almost any [TS]

  setting and they did also the social [TS]

  network is the 2011 social network is [TS]

  like what nowadays you have taken more [TS]

  seriously and you have to be like [TS]

  dramatic and it's gonna be oscar-worthy [TS]

  like I can't you know because you could [TS]

  have done so from that work in the vein [TS]

  of real genius but they chose not to [TS]

  I what I would like the Winklevoss twins [TS]

  to be in real genius that would be an [TS]

  interesting just they could be can't [TS]

  here's my question for the film where to [TS]

  get the ranking of the smartest people [TS]

  in the world in [TS]

  order we're sharing mutual get it wait [TS]

  wikipedia oh ok Cherie Cherie neutral [TS]

  invented wikipedia didn't you know that [TS]

  would make one last last he's got i can [TS]

  only assume right guys I can only assume [TS]

  that that is a again based on some sort [TS]

  of anecdote or like we're barely manage [TS]

  I'm sure the woman didn't like that [TS]

  though I mean there used to be lists but [TS]

  they were posted and they were [TS]

  circulated and not necessarily so no one [TS]

  else's is a sao paulo i mean that we all [TS]

  talked about how ridiculous the women [TS]

  are treating these movies but i have [TS]

  funded trouble have trouble watching [TS]

  eighties movies because of that you know [TS]

  it's fascinating though about this which [TS]

  I just looked up while watching is this [TS]

  movie was directed by a woman guess it [TS]

  was Martha at the coolidge maybe yeah [TS]

  you don't fault its out of its time [TS]

  right this was just you know it wasn't [TS]

  egregious for its time but now watching [TS]

  it now it's like this is such a waste [TS]

  like every time a woman comes on screen [TS]

  as I go watch you come onto the main [TS]

  character she's it's just such a waste [TS]

  I like why they even in the movie it so [TS]

  at the the woman's weight in the room to [TS]

  pee [TS]

  he says you mean she wanted they could [TS]

  even say make love which is the usual [TS]

  eighties horrible euphemism because they [TS]

  don't want to say scx right [TS]

  they said you wanted to jump you you [TS]

  can't even say yeah yeah it's so strange [TS]

  and puritanical the instant he says [TS]

  these are student petitions this may be [TS]

  the only time in your life that you may [TS]

  have sex [TS]

  I know but when the kid goes into the [TS]

  room you're right pose to be you know [TS]

  that that's a tease for you but very one [TS]

  of the ball [TS]

  we're just gonna like wait what and it's [TS]

  also kind of liked the you know the [TS]

  people its characters who are not with [TS]

  it who are a little bit reserved [TS]

  yeah so I mean I thought that one slide [TS]

  but i agree that the the women [TS]

  characters are our kind of short trip [TS]

  but then again as Jason I big said you [TS]

  know Cal Tech in the eighties i'm sure [TS]

  there were not a ton of women [TS]

  yeah well at least at least although she [TS]

  is a caricature at least there's a [TS]

  positive you know one of the one of the [TS]

  people on the team is is jordan and she [TS]

  is portrayed positively and she's smart [TS]

  but the you're right you've got you've [TS]

  got these other two characters were [TS]

  basically like the daughter of the the [TS]

  evil general and the woman who's [TS]

  collecting the perpetrators brains and [TS]

  science [TS]

  and yeah there's no real excuse for that [TS]

  i will say despite being a caricature I [TS]

  knew people who are like Jordan at [TS]

  Celtic I am NOT you [TS]

  she had a character and she wasn't just [TS]

  there you know that that's the typical [TS]

  ladies things where you have the mousy [TS]

  quirky woman but you always get an [TS]

  actress was a knock out any when you try [TS]

  to hunker down that's the eighties yeah [TS]

  but he wants to do that you need to have [TS]

  the trend you have to have the [TS]

  transformative scene which they don't do [TS]

  what you shouldn't take it shouldn't [TS]

  take the classes i don't need the [TS]

  Transformers hit they put her in cute [TS]

  little outfits I mean like if you may [TS]

  put his shoes [TS]

  yeah she was you know if you take her [TS]

  out of any of those efforts like she's [TS]

  not your typical student at Cal Tech [TS]

  student everyone else to deny sure but [TS]

  they do give her a funny haircut and [TS]

  they don't do that the rule John I think [TS]

  you've got to go all the way right as [TS]

  they start that way and then they take [TS]

  out they get a haircut and the idea of [TS]

  their glasses and they become [TS]

  transformed in Jordan is Jordan [TS]

  throughout the movie she is ready she [TS]

  does have the funny haircut and what is [TS]

  treated in some ways like the like the [TS]

  token right to the Osher her close to [TS]

  her clothes good a slightly more [TS]

  reserved no it's it's it's true it's [TS]

  like we cannot have we cannot have a [TS]

  female character in the group of of [TS]

  Heroes so she gets sort of inserted [TS]

  there and she has to be a lot of the [TS]

  trenches the love interest for the hero [TS]

  you know she's never brought its never [TS]

  brought up as though she's the only girl [TS]

  on the floor you know like I feel like [TS]

  in a movie today will be later on they [TS]

  would be there like look she's the you [TS]

  know because they're making bones about [TS]

  ages they would also make bones about [TS]

  you know female male she's not only girl [TS]

  i find it i find a charming that she has [TS]

  no problem just walking into the room [TS]

  the bathroom while Mitch's peeing at the [TS]

  urinal and has a whole conversation with [TS]

  him and and when he get he says he can't [TS]

  be she's like is it because I'm here [TS]

  because she's like whatever I don't [TS]

  think this is a big deal it's a it's a [TS]

  cute little snow I I like her as a [TS]

  character actually I think he is she was [TS]

  one of the more human characters in the [TS]

  movie she has the same haircut as a [TS]

  person from Tron to silence is an ugly I [TS]

  was definitely argue that olivia wilde [TS]

  probably watch this movie and took some [TS]

  of her car off of that that was all i [TS]

  could think of when I watching this [TS]

  movie that's really interesting i looked [TS]

  up Michelle my ring because i was like [TS]

  she was in a few bars of college movies [TS]

  at the time and apparently she gave up [TS]

  on the glass of Hollywood became a [TS]

  buddhist and like think it was all kind [TS]

  of done which is off [TS]

  some I was like that's great and he [TS]

  should know I just I was like whatever [TS]

  happened it's like oh she said she just [TS]

  decided this is all material and [TS]

  pointless and moved to Vancouver [TS]

  something like yeah i wish i could say [TS]

  that about Jared that he's collected [TS]

  he's still like he's kind of handsome [TS]

  now though I yeah he's gonna have so [TS]

  he's got a head shot on IMDb that makes [TS]

  yeah I thought the other night its kind [TS]

  of scary-looking am I the only ones in [TS]

  love with this man what's wrong with [TS]

  this he does have delicate features he [TS]

  it is it is so when I first saw this [TS]

  movie the first like five minutes of it [TS]

  in the movie theater where off they had [TS]

  they they hadn't reset the the right [TS]

  aspect ratio on the projector and so the [TS]

  first time you see Mitch his faces [TS]

  elongated and I thought oh my God he's a [TS]

  horrible elongated freaking when they [TS]

  fixed it you still was it looks a little [TS]

  bit looks a little like a fish that's [TS]

  not invited map an animal to him in this [TS]

  movie I know he's gonna listen to the [TS]

  podcast I'm sorry I I i do you know i [TS]

  feel i feel for Mitch right i do i I [TS]

  certainly put a lot of my feelings of [TS]

  isolation on to Mitch when i watch this [TS]

  movie I i do i I never you know called [TS]

  my parents from college and asked to [TS]

  come home and discovered my room was [TS]

  rented but I certainly you know had had [TS]

  bad experiences like that and felt [TS]

  isolated like that until you look at a [TS]

  bitch's face and the ended when they're [TS]

  playing it over the loudspeaker right [TS]

  and and they have the shots of Mitch you [TS]

  know it is embarrassing moment the worst [TS]

  acting I've ever seen in my entire life [TS]

  like I don't know what expression he was [TS]

  going for there but he might as well [TS]

  been filing the fingernails yep i'm [TS]

  supposed to be said here america i do [TS]

  wonder what would have happened if that [TS]

  if they had cast that part a little bit [TS]

  of an actor [TS]

  yeah I i have to wonder after you know [TS]

  it wasn't it wasn't written it wasn't [TS]

  written that well but he didn't you just [TS]

  didn't have that many line to fit like [TS]

  if you ask someone who is not a nerd [TS]

  watches movie who is the main character [TS]

  i bet they'll say Val Kilmer even though [TS]

  the movie opens with Mitch and follow [TS]

  how much they're going to say Val [TS]

  Kilmer's the main character because he [TS]

  comes out of the screen is just like [TS]

  their yeah well you know which is sort [TS]

  of their it's almost like a relay right [TS]

  mitches there to handle [TS]

  off to to Val Kilmer as his mentor and [TS]

  then at that point it's it's yeah but [TS]

  it's true imagine if a better actor was [TS]

  playing that playing that part by the [TS]

  way it when we talk about realism and [TS]

  emotional connections i never once had a [TS]

  hot girl in my room when I was hacking [TS]

  into something on my 300 baud modem ally [TS]

  sheedy was legitimately mousy she could [TS]

  not work as a model and she was in she [TS]

  was in short circuited it's good yeah [TS]

  let's not talk about short stylish i [TS]

  love short-circuit you guys elias i like [TS]

  i like the robot to but you know [TS]

  come on we'll get a robotics expert on [TS]

  to explain how that is totally wrong i [TS]

  actually bought a copy of the soundtrack [TS]

  to this which turns out there never was [TS]

  a soundtrack but a guy on ebay basically [TS]

  he had tracked down the vinyl of all the [TS]

  songs that were that were in this movie [TS]

  and made it into a CD so yes I bought a [TS]

  pirated CD on ebay but that they were [TS]

  basically never released and so yes if [TS]

  you've if you've missed Chaz jankle or [TS]

  the COMSAT angels [TS]

  well you haven't really missed much but [TS]

  they're the ones that are playing over [TS]

  those montages that there is what to [TS]

  fears and bryan adams and I mean it's [TS]

  got some eighties it it definitely sets [TS]

  a set a tone with the with the [TS]

  soundtrack the other songs are like [TS]

  eighties movie soundtrack they're just [TS]

  like so on-the-nose they might as well [TS]

  be singing you like one of those things [TS]

  for a literal music videos then I you [TS]

  know and they're working they're not bad [TS]

  but they're closed [TS]

  you know you know it's that I don't look [TS]

  at the one part when I said I I don't [TS]

  like I love this movie I'm ironically [TS]

  the part of that I love ironically is [TS]

  the montages because you know yet the [TS]

  world could use more montages in their [TS]

  movies i like i love the montage I think [TS]

  the montages yes i know it covers a lot [TS]

  of sins and of screenwriting and there [TS]

  are some very peculiar parts in these [TS]

  montages where characters are talking [TS]

  and you can't hear them and we don't [TS]

  know what they're saying and that's that [TS]

  so you have to you have to do that [TS]

  lady's montage that's a big part of it [TS]

  that's what that's what that's where the [TS]

  sciences you just insert subtitles a [TS]

  science it is actually it's mentioned [TS]

  and Chris talking about lasers and are [TS]

  carrying big print out this is also how [TS]

  you hide scenes that don't work right [TS]

  right exactly [TS]

  montage or that you don't want to do the [TS]

  research if you want to rank like a [TS]

  tease montage for like that the best of [TS]

  the eighties montages I guess these are [TS]

  all genre films but these montage for [TS]

  solid babies montage I felt like what up [TS]

  and up in the top I would maybe put with [TS]

  also with ridiculous on-the-nose songs [TS]

  maybe the ones from karate kid when he's [TS]

  training or the Footloose ones when he's [TS]

  learning to dance the list of those are [TS]

  some classic moments from triple-a [TS]

  eighties montage tough one of the things [TS]

  i like about the real genius montages is [TS]

  that there are some good jokes in there [TS]

  one and I i saw this movie right before [TS]

  I went off to college for a couple years [TS]

  before and when I was in college and big [TS]

  lecture halls I would always laugh [TS]

  thinking of that the fact that there's [TS]

  the some people bring their tape [TS]

  recorders and then more prank people [TS]

  bring their tape recorders to the [TS]

  lecture over the course of the montage [TS]

  and by the end it's mitch and an [TS]

  electric all full of tape recorders and [TS]

  a reel-to-reel on the table from the [TS]

  professor and everybody's given up on [TS]

  actually coming to class and it's just [TS]

  all recorded i was watching that with [TS]

  someone who looked at me and goes but [TS]

  what is going on here haha i didn't i [TS]

  didn't think young people have even be [TS]

  able to get that only like one of those [TS]

  huge things on the tape recorders will [TS]

  tell you about it later so that the time [TS]

  that was the whole thing it's like I'm [TS]

  just gonna listen to a recording of the [TS]

  lecture now what it's like a podcast [TS]

  kids rented that make any did that did [TS]

  that make any sense to you at all the [TS]

  tape recorders I recognize just fine [TS]

  because I've been seeing those growing [TS]

  up but the boombox threw me for a loop [TS]

  yes I was gonna say I was that young [TS]

  people are gonna be confused by that [TS]

  boom box they could record to say pilton [TS]

  little Mike's it even the reel-to-reel [TS]

  made sense but the boom box just like [TS]

  you eat you you can afford a boombox [TS]

  bridge type recorder i was a college we [TS]

  bought our photographic etching machines [TS]

  so we put the photographic accident you [TS]

  your lectures on wax on there and we aim [TS]

  the horn at the professor and we walked [TS]

  off for 10 minutes since we go back and [TS]

  switch the discs i actually just would [TS]

  bring another person are referring when [TS]

  you're talking to take this night over [TS]

  out yeah you know I went off to college [TS]

  I was very sad when we never had a party [TS]

  with student petitions by the way that [TS]

  was a real letdown when you said there [TS]

  was no ice in your hallway I would i was [TS]

  actually quite said that there was no [TS]

  ice in my home now [TS]

  over there hi jinx with laser beams [TS]

  laser beam i have the wrong major [TS]

  clearly majoring in high-tech pranks [TS]

  that's that i make you a major we went [TS]

  to college [TS]

  we'd have we'd have a sorority so you [TS]

  know but they weren't student petitions [TS]

  it's a very different thing i did so so [TS]

  okay that now that now that Jon and has [TS]

  beaten my favorite movie to death which [TS]

  I expected when I when I invite you i [TS]

  was i was gonna be critical but then [TS]

  John showed up and I feel like you know [TS]

  when you started off I need them i need [TS]

  to mediate a little bit because Justin's [TS]

  here then you know I don't want I don't [TS]

  want to tear it to shreds and well and [TS]

  look I will not [TS]

  although i love this movie I think there [TS]

  are plenty of things to criticize about [TS]

  it and yet i still love it i think it's [TS]

  a good movie for 11 year old nerds in [TS]

  the eighties I think that that's the [TS]

  best i can say and I think it's a movie [TS]

  with it you know it's certainly not [TS]

  without its redeeming qualities of funny [TS]

  lines a lot of memorable things it was [TS]

  enjoyable to watch [TS]

  I think a lot of the funny lines didn't [TS]

  make me laugh simply because they were [TS]

  so burned into my psyche so it must have [TS]

  really had an effect that must have [TS]

  really had an effect on me in the [TS]

  eighties i'm not going to say that [TS]

  wasn't funny even though obviously when [TS]

  you were 11 yeah yeah okay seriously [TS]

  like is that I have the the entire [TS]

  script memorized like so it must have [TS]

  had a big effect on me then but seeing [TS]

  it again now the jokes weren't [TS]

  surprising and they didn't laugh at them [TS]

  again but I don't think it's because [TS]

  they weren't funny is just because they [TS]

  paroled to me so i don't i'm not going [TS]

  to say that it wasn't funny but I'll [TS]

  states that it's an hour an hour and a [TS]

  half of my life that that I'm I'm happy [TS]

  not to have back [TS]

  oh wow that's a ringing endorsement or [TS]

  at least a ringing something you know [TS]

  they're the you know III it's hard for [TS]

  me to judge it because I've seen this [TS]

  movie so many times now that it is like [TS]

  comfort food and and yet some of the [TS]

  some of the dialogue yes some of the [TS]

  jokes I just kind of got stalkers like [TS]

  yeah whatever the DL he wants to see [TS]

  more of you in the lab I'll gain weight [TS]

  just now forget it but you know there [TS]

  are their wines in there that that kill [TS]

  me to this day so i think i caught a new [TS]

  one that it didn't catch when I was 11 [TS]

  and Jason you could tell me if I'm [TS]

  imagining this actually googled the [TS]

  script and i could not fight [TS]

  didn't script but it was it was just as [TS]

  they were cutting away from the scene is [TS]

  set under someone's breath but there [TS]

  they made some gag line where somebody a [TS]

  desk said so-and-so is coming and the [TS]

  other person's reply just before the [TS]

  cutaway was he's barely breathing hard [TS]

  it's not even breathing hard yeah yeah [TS]

  that I did not get when I was when I was [TS]

  not that ok but i did get it this time [TS]

  around somehow it doesn't that was the [TS]

  one rock that I didn't know it was [TS]

  coming [TS]

  we can i let me let me okay I'm gonna [TS]

  since we're wrapping up i can tell [TS]

  rapping I'm gonna question what where [TS]

  people's favorite films if I remember [TS]

  that wasn't from that from that period I [TS]

  know something like that some of us were [TS]

  young [TS]

  we're not born but you know mine was [TS]

  gonna come out and tell you hi lander [TS]

  not from the time but watching later I [TS]

  know which is horrible but I watched [TS]

  that movie I think dozens dozens of [TS]

  times with a group of people a few years [TS]

  after it came out it was so bad and [TS]

  cheesy and full queen song that was [TS]

  great movie when I was 14 years exactly [TS]

  is it does not age well is not age well [TS]

  but it is it doesn't take herself [TS]

  totally seriously either it's got [TS]

  ridiculous crap in it and it's funny and [TS]

  whatever it's a stupid film with anybody [TS]

  else in the film like this is real [TS]

  genius is Jason's stick in the sand 495 [TS]

  we already brought it up but war games i [TS]

  watched endlessly from age like age 72 [TS]

  about age 14 [TS]

  it was one of the many videos that we [TS]

  had taped on our beta player so I was [TS]

  just like I get home and I'd pop it in [TS]

  and I'm like man maki broader it's so [TS]

  cool [TS]

  which is funny because I didn't actually [TS]

  like Ferris wasn't top on my list is [TS]

  that lady lady lock that I do for you [TS]

  know but I loved war games there was [TS]

  just something there was something about [TS]

  that to the point where I like named my [TS]

  first couple of computers Falcon and [TS]

  like huh it was it was very very strange [TS]

  but I still hold he was vulnerable and [TS]

  he wore a hoodie i started war dialing [TS]

  because four games i had my 300 baud [TS]

  modem and i actually found a couple of [TS]

  things in my little small town is there [TS]

  a statute of limitations well I didn't [TS]

  really get anywhere but i did find the [TS]

  local hospital actually had an open line [TS]

  but we couldn't figure out what the [TS]

  password was because I didn't have the [TS]

  algorithm that lets you just start with [TS]

  AAA [TS]

  five minutes get it only takes six hours [TS]

  Jason I don't know what your problem [TS]

  let's do realize the password the [TS]

  password i used to try used to try to [TS]

  telnet I tried that didn't work [TS]

  although although it is already been [TS]

  been roundly booed i will still say that [TS]

  that short circuit to me because it was [TS]

  one of those movies that I saw so much [TS]

  when I was a kid I didn't watch a lot of [TS]

  movies when I was like you know you know [TS]

  a lot of small kid I watched things like [TS]

  Star Wars or whatever but like I didn't [TS]

  watch a lot of other movies because I [TS]

  just didn't really wasn't really into it [TS]

  I'll Star Wars was that a movie from the [TS]

  eighties no those are those have no time [TS]

  that was from their timeless 77 with you [TS]

  might be more familiar with its star [TS]

  wars the empire but i found it [TS]

  interesting while watching this how many [TS]

  similarities i saw to the themes of [TS]

  short circuit which I love as a movie [TS]

  maybe they mainly because it just has a [TS]

  a wisecracking robot in it but that's [TS]

  that's a movie that i can quote like [TS]

  like have you seen it recently and [TS]

  you're still able to [TS]

  yes i have it still remains iro maybe [TS]

  it's just a nostalgia factor for me but [TS]

  it really remains the like I don't know [TS]

  I i find a hugely mean I think there's [TS]

  something to be said for having a movie [TS]

  or some movies that you know by heart [TS]

  and that are like I said it's almost [TS]

  like comfort food i will i will say i [TS]

  make sure when I'm going on a long trip [TS]

  that I've got some device of mine with [TS]

  real genius loaded on it just because [TS]

  when I've been up for like twenty two [TS]

  straight hours and i'm still you know [TS]

  three hours from finally getting home [TS]

  uh I i will put that on and I feel you [TS]

  know a comfortable and happy and and I [TS]

  notice things I actually notice things [TS]

  that I haven't noticed before every [TS]

  single time i watch it and I think about [TS]

  it and I think how many movies have I [TS]

  watched over the years that if I decided [TS]

  to take the time and watch it 10 times [TS]

  they would completely unfold and I [TS]

  totally get it and I would think it was [TS]

  the most amazing movie ever and you know [TS]

  the fact is you never do that with most [TS]

  movies but I i do believe every well not [TS]

  every movie lots of movies have the this [TS]

  level in it that most people don't [TS]

  appreciate because you know you have to [TS]

  see it a lot of times to get it [TS]

  it also it also helps the movies where [TS]

  it's like you know I I bonded with a [TS]

  good friend of mine over short circuit [TS]

  you know of course we can quote it back [TS]

  and forth [TS]

  each other it doesn't get pissed doesn't [TS]

  feel happy doesn't feel sad it just runs [TS]

  programs you know like you can just you [TS]

  know they're there are certain movies [TS]

  where you can just go back and forth [TS]

  with somebody and there's a sort of a [TS]

  shared experience there that makes and [TS]

  watching movies repeatedly can also have [TS]

  the opposite effect where every time you [TS]

  watch it you realize what's what's bad [TS]

  about it and I mean everybody movies [TS]

  television movies when you saw in your [TS]

  kid like sometimes I just don't want to [TS]

  see them again but they just want to [TS]

  preserve my good memory like [TS]

  short-circuit I had very good memories [TS]

  of when I was a kid but by the time [TS]

  shorts truck two came out I was old [TS]

  enough to see how bad it was and [TS]

  short-circuit was much worse than short [TS]

  circuit one and now I'm afraid to ever [TS]

  watch short circuit again because i do [TS]

  have you know fond memories of a kind of [TS]

  robots and special effects and [TS]

  everything like that and they were funny [TS]

  lines I don't want to see it again and [TS]

  ruin all that but if I had to pick like [TS]

  if I had to pick like eighties movies [TS]

  that I like that one of them actually i [TS]

  showed my son recently that figured he [TS]

  could handle it he's six soon-to-be [TS]

  seven and he's taking karate lessons i [TS]

  want to show them the karate kid which I [TS]

  held up as likely the ultimate eighties [TS]

  formula you know that the karate kids [TS]

  formulas and they didn't invent it but [TS]

  they perfected that formula and i [TS]

  watched it again and for the most part [TS]

  it held up a few things like watching an [TS]

  adult I didn't realize like how abrupt [TS]

  certain things were on it just seemed so [TS]

  much more expansive when i saw it as a [TS]

  kid but I was to hold that up as a as a [TS]

  movie that has kind of that I don't like [TS]

  a guilty pleasure I realize it's a bad [TS]

  movie but i still get caught up in the [TS]

  stupid you know montages and emotional [TS]

  scenes that it get it did get worse [TS]

  upon seeing it as an adult but being [TS]

  able to see it through the eyes of my [TS]

  son help their stuff that you're not [TS]

  cognizant of the guy's a kid right like [TS]

  you don't know the first thing about [TS]

  editing or whatever but you know that [TS]

  you especially after you seen hundreds [TS]

  of war movies right yeah we sort of ever [TS]

  find your understanding of the art form [TS]

  a little bit although the the best thing [TS]

  about that movie seeing it as an adult [TS]

  was seeing a Elisabeth Shue in that [TS]

  movie and realizing she would be [TS]

  considered morbidly obese in in in [TS]

  modern era they would never cashed her [TS]

  that they would cast her as the fat ugly [TS]

  girl in any modern team moving and just [TS]

  realize how ridiculously you know how [TS]

  the shape of women's bodies has changed [TS]

  in Hollywood like the standard that they [TS]

  that they are held to four movies like [TS]

  this now where she just looked like a [TS]

  perfectly healthy fine normal one [TS]

  but you see her on the screen with the [TS]

  mindset of i'm gonna watch a movie and [TS]

  there's going to be a girl in high [TS]

  school and you're like oh my god she has [TS]

  you know she's not real thing I can see [TS]

  every single one of her ribs it's a [TS]

  miracle of casting huh that's just [TS]

  fascinating there and then there are [TS]

  their movies from that era that fall [TS]

  into different categories i think we I [TS]

  mean we already discussed the princess [TS]

  bride you know I throw something like [TS]

  you know Ghostbusters your back to the [TS]

  future and that mix as well and i would [TS]

  say princess bride is a level above all [TS]

  those well yeah I i guess i mean i can [TS]

  watch it again and again that's the one [TS]

  to get the one that gets better does not [TS]

  get worse [TS]

  no no it's just I i love the original [TS]

  back to the future i hit and as I think [TS]

  that I haven't seen that in years when I [TS]

  think that holds up to [TS]

  I i think my experience and watching [TS]

  them is that is that back to the future [TS]

  doesn't hold up quite as well as [TS]

  Ghostbusters but they both hold up [TS]

  pretty well I'm surprised nobody other [TS]

  than intentionally brought up one of the [TS]

  John Hughes movies an example of a movie [TS]

  that you like from the 80s because those [TS]

  are in many ways are often girls them [TS]

  and she's open up you know I can't well [TS]

  I can actually watch John Hughes movies [TS]

  i I've tried sitting are you bored live [TS]

  in 16 I'd just they don't do that for me [TS]

  if you were born in the eighties they [TS]

  would have got to it i think the [TS]

  cultural baggage is off-putting but if [TS]

  all that was removed it [TS]

  those i never saw a ferris bueller's day [TS]

  off until last year and it's good [TS]

  variability so i have to get that's a [TS]

  good movie and it was getting better in [TS]

  the eighties let me tell you all right I [TS]

  believe you I believe you i miss the [TS]

  whole John missing when it first [TS]

  happened on when cool can you hook up [TS]

  your time machines we can go back and [TS]

  watch this all the eighties because [TS]

  that'll be useful for us yeah let me [TS]

  tell you see what i can do if you're if [TS]

  you're 14 and you're in the movie [TS]

  theater and and real genius comes on [TS]

  especially if you just saw my science [TS]

  project with what you'll be like oh [TS]

  thank god this isn't terrible like my [TS]

  science project has anybody seen my [TS]

  science project is available that they [TS]

  burn the Masters that's a terrible [TS]

  that's a movie that's so terrible in so [TS]

  many different ways but I remember real [TS]

  genius standing out as a different kind [TS]

  of movie even though it when we look at [TS]

  now it's like all it's a typical [TS]

  eighties movie i remember when i saw it [TS]

  at the time when you're in the eighties [TS]

  it's just a movie it felt it felt it [TS]

  felt different it felt it felt different [TS]

  than it was like it was like you know [TS]

  underground kind [TS]

  a secret alternative type of movie you [TS]

  know as opposed to how we see it now as [TS]

  much as you know as much as John I [TS]

  disagreed earlier i mean i think the [TS]

  truth is that the one of the reasons [TS]

  that I I like real genius this day as a [TS]

  fourteen-year-old in a small town you [TS]

  know I i watch that movie and thought [TS]

  wow this is a movie again yeah [TS]

  caricature is fine [TS]

  I this is a movie with lots of really [TS]

  smart people in it who are not who are [TS]

  not they're the heroes in the movie and [TS]

  that really did have a residence for me [TS]

  because you didn't see that a lot i [TS]

  didn't see people like that who actually [TS]

  kind of identified with and I you know [TS]

  as a as a teenager as a high school [TS]

  freshman in hick town in California [TS]

  sadly all those people then grew up to [TS]

  make terrible Terry yes movies sad [TS]

  laters like medium definitely yeah [TS]

  that's right i mentioned this in the [TS]

  previous cup i guess there is an episode [TS]

  of lost that has john grise and william [TS]

  atherton in it they don't they don't [TS]

  actually have any scenes together but if [TS]

  there's that moment where Jerry yes [TS]

  Jerry Hathaway and last lo are in an [TS]

  episode of lost and all i can assume is [TS]

  that somebody who worked on lost likes [TS]

  real genius because really [TS]

  real genius because really [TS]

  how could that happen and by the way but [TS]

  I think I mentioned this on previous [TS]

  podcast in that episode of lost william [TS]

  atherton kind of a dick [TS]

  I know this will I know this will shock [TS]

  you all [TS]

  it helped them i want you shocked by how [TS]

  young and nothing you look so I saw him [TS]

  in this movie I'm like oh my god he [TS]

  looks like he's 12 [TS]

  you know because you're so used to [TS]

  seeing him over the years playing that [TS]

  same character in that same way and he [TS]

  looks much older now [TS]

  yeah but it's it's the die-hard [TS]

  Ghostbusters real genius access that was [TS]

  that's him at his peak of being a dick [TS]

  well so William Atherton and gave Jeremy [TS]

  piston well i mean i think he let me [TS]

  know that's that was he kinda houses [TS]

  he's got a beachfront house somewhere [TS]

  for being a dick [TS]

  he's very he's very nice maybe some if [TS]

  they call if they call save the message [TS]

  was funny later I don't guys a film [TS]

  reviewer he reviewed one of Franklin's [TS]

  movies badly and I was dug up his [TS]

  numbers in the nineties getting in and [TS]

  out something like that [TS]

  he dug up the number and Frank Oz left a [TS]

  long incredibly angry and foul message [TS]

  as Yoda are Grover Miss Piggy calling [TS]

  you and cursing you out pretty good [TS]

  Fozzie Bear alright well I feel like [TS]

  we've beaten my childhood love to death [TS]

  enough for now [TS]

  that's apparently the modus operandi for [TS]

  this podcast is to destroy this should [TS]

  be called we're destroying Jason spells [TS]

  childhood one movie at a time the story [TS]

  really do micronauts episode 20 [TS]

  yes y know I already did that and and [TS]

  Lisa Schmeisser took that one apart so [TS]

  before somebody can say something else [TS]

  bad about real genius quiet everybody [TS]

  um I am going to say say good-bye again [TS]

  I'm not going to even leave you with a [TS]

  quote from real genius i'm just going to [TS]

  go watch it again to soothe myself so [TS]

  until next time on the incomparable [TS]

  podcast [TS]

  thank you to my guest and more'n thanks [TS]

  for having me jaise thanks for watching [TS]

  the movie [TS]

  hey my pleasure that's 90 minutes that [TS]

  you didn't entirely just like so that's [TS]

  good [TS]

  Glenn flight you can put that on the Box [TS]

  my brand and Fleischmann I thank you for [TS]

  being on this podcast after watching [TS]

  this movie with a future chart charting [TS]

  pop musician right in a movie in a way i [TS]

  watched a lot just moving the driving [TS]

  with the with a now famous person at the [TS]

  time she was just in high school of [TS]

  course and then she built a laser and [TS]

  was famous ren called well thank you for [TS]

  watching this little bit little 90 [TS]

  minutes of the eighties it was fun [TS]

  nostalgia jizz your time machine was [TS]

  active John siracusa you were here [TS]

  thanks for being a good sport Jason I [TS]

  hope you just I hope you can watch this [TS]

  movie in the future and not hear my [TS]

  voice in your head [TS]

  I i will but i may go back and watch [TS]

  watch war games so i can feel more [TS]

  emotionally connected i hope so [TS]

  provision i have you know until next [TS]

  time this is the incomparable i'm jason [TS]

  snelling [TS]

  goodbye [TS]

  [Music] [TS]

  allergies are gold come to your life [TS]

  their hole in back [TS]

  that's not good there you're missing a [TS]

  few notes and you thing that's tricky [TS]

  yeah are back i don't think the latency [TS]

  skype is helping out everybody wants to [TS]

  rule the world [TS]

  it also has a very strange obsession [TS]

  with the word penis [TS]