The Incomparable

22: Stephen Fry (Does Not Appear)


00:00:00   the incomparable Todd test number 22 [TS]

00:00:08   January 2011 recorded live in front of a [TS]

00:00:13   studio audience of one [TS]

00:00:20   it's friday night it's 9pm Pacific do [TS]

00:00:24   you know where your children and you [TS]

00:00:25   know what we're doing because we're [TS]

00:00:26   party animals [TS]

00:00:27   we're all drinking tea like the English [TS]

00:00:30   dreamy me know in comments to do that [TS]

00:00:34   wasn't even an English accent I wished [TS]

00:00:35   it was it just sounds kind of pompous I [TS]

00:00:37   want to talk about you know what Stephen [TS]

00:00:39   Fry ok Mycroft Holmes all right so mark [TS]

00:00:44   gatiss I don't want to talk about any so [TS]

00:00:46   let me explain what's happening here [TS]

00:00:47   this is the uncomfortable podcast i am [TS]

00:00:51   jason l apparently your host because [TS]

00:00:53   I've been declared so by Dan Morris the [TS]

00:00:55   the sort of explain we are here though [TS]

00:00:58   there is a scalar is too much [TS]

00:01:00   don't let me sum up normally when we do [TS]

00:01:03   these podcasts we are scattered across [TS]

00:01:05   the four corners of the earth or at [TS]

00:01:07   least of the United States and we do it [TS]

00:01:10   all with the magic of skype and that's [TS]

00:01:13   why this podcast is so very wrong [TS]

00:01:14   because we're all in a little room where [TS]

00:01:18   they turned off the air conditioning and [TS]

00:01:19   we're all slowly going to suffocate on [TS]

00:01:21   jason's quest recording this together [TS]

00:01:24   why is this night different from all the [TS]

00:01:26   night um maybe they said there are not [TS]

00:01:30   enough people in the room who get that [TS]

00:01:32   so I like I get it yeah I know you do I [TS]

00:01:34   know you do know you do i'm pointing and [TS]

00:01:36   our audience yes we we do have an [TS]

00:01:39   audience of one who's taking up the [TS]

00:01:41   oxygen its gonna be like the cold [TS]

00:01:43   equations actually at some point [TS]

00:01:44   somebody's gonna have to die and we're [TS]

00:01:46   going to shoot them out the door of the [TS]

00:01:47   podcast room just in order to keep [TS]

00:01:49   enough oxygen going this time on the [TS]

00:01:52   uncomfortable we slowly kill off members [TS]

00:01:54   of the cast will survive [TS]

00:01:55   yes that would be a great episode so [TS]

00:01:57   joining me here if it isn't already [TS]

00:01:58   obvious in this room today locked in its [TS]

00:02:01   like a locked-room mystery the mystery [TS]

00:02:03   is what are we talking about some time [TS]

00:02:04   and our suspects are myself jason l also [TS]

00:02:07   known as Professor plum across from me [TS]

00:02:10   is serenity Caldwell miss Scarlett [TS]

00:02:12   hiding [TS]

00:02:13   uh next to her is Glenn fleischmann [TS]

00:02:17   Colonel Mustard i'm holding a pipe there [TS]

00:02:21   is no pipe there is no pipe that Hisle [TS]

00:02:23   next to me like that to me is dan dan [TS]

00:02:26   moore and mr. green eyed see ok mr. [TS]

00:02:29   green it is and our audience is holding [TS]

00:02:31   a candlestick and [TS]

00:02:33   and wherein is that like you so wait are [TS]

00:02:38   our loan audience member could be mr. [TS]

00:02:39   body he is just the island he's the [TS]

00:02:41   unnamed victim mr. body is here with us [TS]

00:02:44   has a name [TS]

00:02:45   tvs Lex Friedman see and this is great [TS]

00:02:48   because we have laughter but it's not a [TS]

00:02:50   laugh track it's just a guy but he [TS]

00:02:52   laughs every time the same way as me [TS]

00:02:54   maybe it's like the first season as my [TS]

00:02:55   last night [TS]

00:02:56   ok so glad you said you wanted to talk [TS]

00:02:59   about Stephen friday then I'd always [TS]

00:03:01   want to talk about Stephen Fry because [TS]

00:03:02   he is possibly the most interesting [TS]

00:03:03   person the world not just doesn't listen [TS]

00:03:05   to this quietness it's almost over [TS]

00:03:08   alright well we could tweet it to him in [TS]

00:03:10   any case so Stephen Fry has been [TS]

00:03:12   tweeting that he will be playing Mycroft [TS]

00:03:14   Holmes in an upcoming second sherlock [TS]

00:03:17   holmes movie with Robert Downey jr. jr. [TS]

00:03:19   students to hear yet that's the horns [TS]

00:03:21   week already down to do not i just use [TS]

00:03:24   your friends column June June RDG so a [TS]

00:03:27   UH treated the gs4 to your GSI and [TS]

00:03:32   besides so Stephen Fry has my craft Mart [TS]

00:03:35   gallery Morty market money Morty Mark [TS]

00:03:37   Gatiss played sure my craft Sherlock's [TS]

00:03:40   elder brother in the recent BBC [TS]

00:03:43   adaptation that we all talked about [TS]

00:03:44   right the type of muffins and and market [TS]

00:03:46   if I was smart I would look up who [TS]

00:03:47   played a mini Jeremy Brett series it's a [TS]

00:03:49   it's a I don't the underlord it was [TS]

00:03:52   episode something so he was Blofeld in [TS]

00:03:54   diamonds are forever with a terrible [TS]

00:03:57   bond I've seen all the bonds and let me [TS]

00:03:59   tell you diamonds are forever [TS]

00:04:00   that was the movie is that not the movie [TS]

00:04:02   where Sean Connery came back after [TS]

00:04:04   departing no no you think I've never say [TS]

00:04:06   never again [TS]

00:04:07   no no no but he came back he quit and [TS]

00:04:09   then George Lazenby did on her majesty's [TS]

00:04:11   secret service and then they na through [TS]

00:04:13   a lot of money at sean connery to come [TS]

00:04:15   back and do one last bono the heat films [TS]

00:04:19   like five or six up front he left last [TS]

00:04:21   he came in after lesson he was more and [TS]

00:04:24   alone this there's a one-off which is [TS]

00:04:26   not is one of those ones that like the [TS]

00:04:28   broccoli family did not only racing [TS]

00:04:30   royale no no that there's also never say [TS]

00:04:32   never again will that which is wonderful [TS]

00:04:34   that the ball right and he's got great [TS]

00:04:36   hair [TS]

00:04:36   it's sean connery and it's like 1980 and [TS]

00:04:38   like kim basinger around [TS]

00:04:39   I don't think that's the you know now at [TS]

00:04:42   a risk of destroying our computer I [TS]

00:04:44   don't think that's the bond timeline [TS]

00:04:45   well sorry what we're talking about [TS]

00:04:46   James blood bond over this is gonna be [TS]

00:04:48   like the eight degrees of parentheses [TS]

00:04:50   one large cast is one more mystery [TS]

00:04:52   science theater 3000 uncovered a movie [TS]

00:04:54   made by sean connery's brother in which [TS]

00:04:56   he plays James Bond's brother a man who [TS]

00:04:59   can control people with his mind and [TS]

00:05:01   they pronounced off and they bring I [TS]

00:05:03   think it's the guy plays Blofeld also is [TS]

00:05:05   in this terrible terrible movie in which [TS]

00:05:08   and it opens with the villain projecting [TS]

00:05:11   a movie on a nude back of a woman [TS]

00:05:13   because that's apparently what villains [TS]

00:05:15   do they use women as a kind of furniture [TS]

00:05:17   not very good for movies free screen as [TS]

00:05:21   well its kind of furniture not like [TS]

00:05:23   mackerel is just to be clear here and to [TS]

00:05:26   show that Dan Morgan is wrong again [TS]

00:05:27   online Majesty's Secret Service was [TS]

00:05:29   start star George Lazenby has released [TS]

00:05:31   in 1969 it didn't go so well and they [TS]

00:05:34   said please please Sean Connery come [TS]

00:05:36   back to be James Bond which is why he [TS]

00:05:38   appeared in diamonds are forever in 1971 [TS]

00:05:41   with the guy who is mycroft and sherlock [TS]

00:05:44   holmes terrible movie and that was his [TS]

00:05:47   last movie until he did the never say [TS]

00:05:49   never again kind of contractual [TS]

00:05:51   obligation think and then Roger Moore [TS]

00:05:53   came in so what do you know you know did [TS]

00:05:54   it was not something so actually it was [TS]

00:05:56   economies products in the over Connery [TS]

00:05:59   then more i have it on good authority [TS]

00:06:00   from person who interviewed Sean Connery [TS]

00:06:03   and multiplication that he is a not very [TS]

00:06:05   smart [TS]

00:06:06   gentlemen even in his prime as you need [TS]

00:06:08   to borrow additional glad that we have a [TS]

00:06:11   great day ahead of us comrade I'm a rush [TS]

00:06:14   so terrible that Sean Connery did is our [TS]

00:06:17   nose and eyes like with one of our God [TS]

00:06:20   is a good i learned with highlander [TS]

00:06:22   through when i was thinking is our God [TS]

00:06:24   Zardoz Zardo money and activity there's [TS]

00:06:28   lots of disease there's also highlander [TS]

00:06:30   to the money collecting yes well the [TS]

00:06:32   interval that's for sure [TS]

00:06:34   yes it's that is that was highlighted to [TS]

00:06:36   we're bringing back from the dead so he [TS]

00:06:38   can make some more money a terrible [TS]

00:06:40   highlander 33 highlander film i like i [TS]

00:06:43   like that in the first Lander movie he [TS]

00:06:45   is the only actual Scottish person in [TS]

00:06:47   the movie and he plays an Egyptian and [TS]

00:06:49   you have heard you have heard Mr [TS]

00:06:53   Christopher Lambert has a terrible [TS]

00:06:54   terrible scotch and you have heard who's [TS]

00:06:57   the late-night host who is mr. wick on [TS]

00:06:59   craig ferguson Ferguson's a whole rant [TS]

00:07:00   about the fact that they get a Scots [TS]

00:07:02   when he goes to Scotland in the movie [TS]

00:07:05   Highlander and then does a spanish fake [TS]

00:07:08   Egyptian accent the only movie that Sean [TS]

00:07:11   Connery was ever in which he should have [TS]

00:07:13   actually use outside so it doesn't use a [TS]

00:07:15   different accent he still sounds like [TS]

00:07:16   one from Egypt value thousand years old [TS]

00:07:18   that's that's his voice how is it [TS]

00:07:21   possible that i have more control over [TS]

00:07:23   this podcast when you're on skype then [TS]

00:07:25   when you're in the room with me how [TS]

00:07:27   would you got your muscle because we [TS]

00:07:29   can't even like we can't let go over [TS]

00:07:31   each other its former when we're outside [TS]

00:07:33   the beauty very then i can cut you out [TS]

00:07:35   here I can't do anything [TS]

00:07:36   no just talking you're all at our mercy [TS]

00:07:38   so Stephen Fry leaving fri wonderful [TS]

00:07:41   actor [TS]

00:07:41   where were you going with stout as [TS]

00:07:43   opposed to Tolland I was just thinking [TS]

00:07:45   about my just like Mycroft Holmes smart [TS]

00:07:47   game is like bikes the word bird girl [TS]

00:07:53   I'm just time I'm just talking about [TS]

00:07:54   Mycroft ladies watch your man that [TS]

00:07:58   Mycroft is one badjojo matter i like [TS]

00:08:01   talking a little brother I can I like [TS]

00:08:04   corporate detectives who sitting [TS]

00:08:05   comfortable chairs is there and that is [TS]

00:08:07   a someone like Scott not be liking [TS]

00:08:10   historical like fiction that begins with [TS]

00:08:12   the letter W I don't know that in New [TS]

00:08:14   York it is you know anyone there are [TS]

00:08:16   there are many many detectives in this [TS]

00:08:18   category and I will defend that I'll [TS]

00:08:20   defend the indefensible [TS]

00:08:21   alright so see them so what so so a [TS]

00:08:23   proposed you have a list of two so far [TS]

00:08:25   stephen fry is Mycroft Holmes vegas is [TS]

00:08:29   is Mycroft Holmes in this be interesting [TS]

00:08:32   because because Sherlock Holmes is in [TS]

00:08:34   the public domain we have these two [TS]

00:08:36   franchises of Sherlock Holmes [TS]

00:08:38   on simultaneously you don't want to [TS]

00:08:40   start me down that path sherlock holmes [TS]

00:08:41   is not in the public domain precisely [TS]

00:08:43   and it is the most boring story i could [TS]

00:08:45   possibly tell you I'm really review some [TS]

00:08:46   of it in the public domain sort of this [TS]

00:08:49   issue about oh don't get me started [TS]

00:08:50   there's a new york times article that [TS]

00:08:52   smells and marvelously if it if [TS]

00:08:53   listeners can use the google tell us [TS]

00:08:55   about wireless standards it's you i'm [TS]

00:08:58   not going there the I Triple E in 140 [TS]

00:09:01   characters or less go well you see no [TS]

00:09:05   actually it's there's an interesting [TS]

00:09:05   story there is interesting story i will [TS]

00:09:07   get interesting story of this god damn [TS]

00:09:09   it I store now we have to use the [TS]

00:09:11   explicit rating you market is so the [TS]

00:09:13   interesting story is your lesson what [TS]

00:09:15   happens is there is a literary figures [TS]

00:09:17   such as I know Agatha Christie or Arthur [TS]

00:09:20   Conan Doyle or someone who writes a [TS]

00:09:21   series of interesting novels and TV [TS]

00:09:25   shows whatever and then they die and [TS]

00:09:27   their spouse remarries and the person to [TS]

00:09:30   marry is often a lawyer who is very good [TS]

00:09:31   at exploiting the rights of dead people [TS]

00:09:34   literary properties that minutes in and [TS]

00:09:37   of itself could be a TV show that would [TS]

00:09:39   be a great TV show don't have a kindle [TS]

00:09:41   here is everybody okay with her keel I [TS]

00:09:43   go without a light Murder She Wrote and [TS]

00:09:46   then he died and then she wrote murder [TS]

00:09:49   and murder murder she posthumously [TS]

00:09:50   cashed in the pond [TS]

00:09:52   wow that's the title of the pot you know [TS]

00:09:54   Angela Lansbury been needing some more [TS]

00:09:56   clearly [TS]

00:09:57   yes well ever since you live right ever [TS]

00:09:59   since she married george orwell she that [TS]

00:10:02   was a match maiden George or one [TS]

00:10:05   direction it works this is the worst [TS]

00:10:07   room in the world right now isn't it [TS]

00:10:08   it's really isn't it really warm and [TS]

00:10:11   this wasn't drinking tea [TS]

00:10:13   are we in the I feel like we're in the [TS]

00:10:14   box i'm not prison like when you put [TS]

00:10:16   your solid was like walking around like [TS]

00:10:18   a homicide where Frank Pendleton is [TS]

00:10:19   gonna come maybe a little bit i know you [TS]

00:10:21   did it slowly boiling frog that's the [TS]

00:10:25   part again and get back to the initial [TS]

00:10:27   concept of this podcast gradually each [TS]

00:10:30   of us will die leaving only lacks alive [TS]

00:10:33   that's comparable for his that's murder [TS]

00:10:36   by death this is the plot is murdered by [TS]

00:10:37   death isn't it [TS]

00:10:38   you know Peter fall down yes and her [TS]

00:10:41   Truman Capote so so Stephen frost office [TS]

00:10:44   suite [TS]

00:10:45   he was no not yet born by sometime but [TS]

00:10:47   when I was this is a long before you are [TS]

00:10:49   out but like my mom took me in a bunch [TS]

00:10:52   of friends besides you're going to [TS]

00:10:53   murder by death murder by death for you [TS]

00:10:55   know birthday party for my friends that [TS]

00:10:58   secret movie this is a picture with her [TS]

00:11:00   like I was our hidden ironic message in [TS]

00:11:02   madden and their corporate detectives in [TS]

00:11:05   that film is the name of this episode [TS]

00:11:08   the corpulent the curious case of the [TS]

00:11:11   corpulent you all rounder and within [TS]

00:11:14   your color did you picture will be gone [TS]

00:11:16   is there was there more about stephen [TS]

00:11:18   fry or were you in the air with that was [TS]

00:11:21   all you had was good friends with better [TS]

00:11:22   way to pick up you started and said you [TS]

00:11:24   know Stephen Fry an interesting story [TS]

00:11:26   he's going to be my cross he end of line [TS]

00:11:30   i have a friend in Rome you know [TS]

00:11:33   wow damn orange head has hit the table [TS]

00:11:36   ladies and gentlemen this is what [TS]

00:11:37   happens when we don't prepare I like to [TS]

00:11:39   apologize to everybody all ready for [TS]

00:11:40   this but it sounds like one of the other [TS]

00:11:42   podcast i used to do with my friend and [TS]

00:11:43   I would just sit online and riff for 20 [TS]

00:11:45   minutes they said week with a lot on [TS]

00:11:47   your subjects when I was a kid my note [TS]

00:11:50   to self used to do the used to do the [TS]

00:11:52   voices bow with Jason's thing I don't [TS]

00:11:55   know how he knew when a time travel [TS]

00:11:58   thing really remember the I it was a boy [TS]

00:12:00   talk in the home alone movies or [TS]

00:12:02   something like that it's like the little [TS]

00:12:03   the little handheld recorder [TS]

00:12:05   oh that he used to like simulate the at [TS]

00:12:07   the mob guys I had I had the girly [TS]

00:12:10   version of this sad [TS]

00:12:12   Thank will call girl talking was called [TS]

00:12:14   girl talk and it was terrifying and I [TS]

00:12:16   got it from a friend is a what Mary [TS]

00:12:18   different was just pink it was purple [TS]

00:12:21   actually we're gonna try fix all of this [TS]

00:12:22   imposed do my job to get back to the [TS]

00:12:25   point I was originally even tried but [TS]

00:12:29   he's great he's very talented [TS]

00:12:31   you know you know you know what's a good [TS]

00:12:34   movie now I the movie that that he's in [TS]

00:12:36   that I really love in in a desperate [TS]

00:12:39   attempt to get this on some sort of [TS]

00:12:40   track is is V for Vendetta [TS]

00:12:43   that's a serious role right i mean [TS]

00:12:45   pretty much I've seen it and it's it's [TS]

00:12:46   really plays a comedian he does have a [TS]

00:12:48   little italy is a comedian who is sort [TS]

00:12:52   of protecting his private life and and [TS]

00:12:57   is empty [TS]

00:12:59   shields Natalie Portman who I know is [TS]

00:13:01   near and dear today the seals are by [TS]

00:13:02   hiding under a bed because secret forces [TS]

00:13:04   and the totalitarian government would [TS]

00:13:06   never look under a bed remarkable best [TS]

00:13:08   you could come up with and then he is [TS]

00:13:10   then he's taken away and executed [TS]

00:13:12   basically so what's the secret forces do [TS]

00:13:14   not spoil or worn that was that is the [TS]

00:13:20   best boiler horn everything like the [TS]

00:13:22   spoiler quack spoilers doc Sophie for [TS]

00:13:27   vendetta I you know the Wachowski [TS]

00:13:28   brothers who did the matrix and then [TS]

00:13:30   they made those terrible terrible sequel [TS]

00:13:31   to the matrix and they didn't sequels [TS]

00:13:33   that the gun that right now says there's [TS]

00:13:36   two more coming know that there was [TS]

00:13:37   doing that 10 but i think i'm not didn't [TS]

00:13:40   actually directed they produced it and [TS]

00:13:42   they had like the guy who is their [TS]

00:13:43   second grader James McTeague yeah and [TS]

00:13:47   and you know i know some people don't [TS]

00:13:48   like that movie i love that movie I [TS]

00:13:50   think that's quick i think that same [TS]

00:13:51   sorry and it's based on comic book you [TS]

00:13:54   know Alan more comic book but it's not [TS]

00:13:55   you know not a super here we come you [TS]

00:13:57   know it's just a funny thing [TS]

00:13:58   I'll more didn't like the movie shallow [TS]

00:14:00   going to be fair alan moore doesn't like [TS]

00:14:02   specifically requested his name be taken [TS]

00:14:04   over here JJ not ever [TS]

00:14:06   well I mean you know to be fair did [TS]

00:14:08   anyone else see League of Extraordinary [TS]

00:14:09   Gentlemen that you're John ghadiri and [TS]

00:14:13   all goes back up from would never let me [TS]

00:14:15   die [TS]

00:14:16   that's that is a fun movie though I mean [TS]

00:14:18   fly safe have fun tonight I would not [TS]

00:14:20   like to see basement but it's if you [TS]

00:14:24   wanted the most basic on it's enjoyable [TS]

00:14:26   it's it's a good enjoyable movie and I [TS]

00:14:29   know it talks you know and i think you [TS]

00:14:32   can read it i mean i think at the time [TS]

00:14:34   it there [TS]

00:14:35   the way to read it and the way it was [TS]

00:14:37   coded which was about a criticism of [TS]

00:14:39   like the bush administration and the war [TS]

00:14:41   in iraq but i think on a broader level [TS]

00:14:43   just viewing it again as a movie about a [TS]

00:14:46   totalitarian see I think there's [TS]

00:14:47   something for everyone in there right I [TS]

00:14:48   i think that little girls so terrorism [TS]

00:14:52   you know yeah that's right free John [TS]

00:14:54   Hurt is as essentially as big brother [TS]

00:14:56   um i just i i really like that moving [TS]

00:14:59   their couple of lovely little eggs in it [TS]

00:15:02   too like the 10-minute I don't remember [TS]

00:15:04   the app the actress who plays with the [TS]

00:15:05   valerie sequence where he's just reading [TS]

00:15:07   the letters and that's directly from the [TS]

00:15:09   Communist present comics to yeah that's [TS]

00:15:12   one of the whatever reading the comic [TS]

00:15:14   about few months after i saw the film [TS]

00:15:16   but i only read it online and i think it [TS]

00:15:18   was only available in like bits and [TS]

00:15:20   pieces are pirated gettin it's it's [TS]

00:15:23   beautiful and and yeah that is so [TS]

00:15:25   touching the the well although the one [TS]

00:15:27   part of the movie where I really kind of [TS]

00:15:29   went 'damn is the whole hey natalie [TS]

00:15:32   portman you're gonna be tortured and [TS]

00:15:33   we're gonna tell you that you're dying [TS]

00:15:34   and it's all fake out and there was no [TS]

00:15:37   everyone well I think about that and I [TS]

00:15:39   wasn't really a fake-out or but she [TS]

00:15:41   wasn't complicit in it but it's you know [TS]

00:15:43   his he/she it's kind of creepy because [TS]

00:15:46   she accepts it like she goes she's got [TS]

00:15:48   mad briefly then she feels liberated and [TS]

00:15:50   I'm like is this a vindication of [TS]

00:15:51   psychological torture sort of [TS]

00:15:53   brainwashed right in a way I mean that's [TS]

00:15:56   one of the interesting things about the [TS]

00:15:57   movies and then she has her freedom [TS]

00:15:59   because he's brainwashed her by breaking [TS]

00:16:00   her through torture but he never breaks [TS]

00:16:02   or she never confesses she never [TS]

00:16:04   confesses right that is you know how he [TS]

00:16:06   picks her that's a good 1984 call back [TS]

00:16:07   to writing i watch the movie actually [TS]

00:16:09   when I want to be for vendetta i was [TS]

00:16:11   drawn back to John Hurt in 1984 which is [TS]

00:16:14   around in that movie is that is a freaky [TS]

00:16:16   wonderful underrated film and it's very [TS]

00:16:18   effective to the book and there's a ton [TS]

00:16:20   of callbacks including the giant screen [TS]

00:16:22   envy for the net as a call back to [TS]

00:16:24   Reggie right right that's I mean she's [TS]

00:16:27   already set up so its interests it's [TS]

00:16:28   interesting the the 1984 is an [TS]

00:16:32   interesting example of a book that is [TS]

00:16:33   considered great literature and kids [TS]

00:16:37   read in school and you know you can't [TS]

00:16:40   not call that a sci-fi book except i [TS]

00:16:42   think people don't because they're [TS]

00:16:43   afraid to categorize it as that visual [TS]

00:16:45   it is a lot of great things wrong in [TS]

00:16:46   1948 rights and there's a there's a lot [TS]

00:16:49   of get great thought-provoking [TS]

00:16:50   literature that is you know technically [TS]

00:16:52   science fiction but it's very often [TS]

00:16:54   represent under the guise well i'm [TS]

00:16:56   thinking again you know it along similar [TS]

00:16:57   lines fahrenheit 451 which is going on a [TS]

00:17:00   book that i love but i think it is an [TS]

00:17:02   interesting book it's not my favorite [TS]

00:17:04   Bradbury work I think he's done [TS]

00:17:06   for work elsewhere but it's the one that [TS]

00:17:07   so that's mostly popular and i actually [TS]

00:17:09   got into a discussion with someone [TS]

00:17:10   recently about that because I mean it's [TS]

00:17:12   very similar to 1984 in some themes but [TS]

00:17:15   one of my friends like oh right [TS]

00:17:18   Bradbury's crazy said fahrenheit 451 [TS]

00:17:20   that isn't a book about censorship when [TS]

00:17:22   clearly and i said well i just reread it [TS]

00:17:24   it isn't about censorship really it's [TS]

00:17:27   about people the the population [TS]

00:17:30   willfully becoming sort of anesthetized [TS]

00:17:32   to like what's going on around them they [TS]

00:17:33   don't want to know anything they're [TS]

00:17:34   censoring themselves and the antithesis [TS]

00:17:36   of people coming in memorizing books and [TS]

00:17:38   passing them on orally in right which is [TS]

00:17:41   it again it's it's a book that I find it [TS]

00:17:43   more interesting in in in its ideas than [TS]

00:17:45   its execution so i will say that i love [TS]

00:17:47   the was the movie made in like the [TS]

00:17:49   seventies eighties yeah they tried to [TS]

00:17:51   get a remake for years off the ground [TS]

00:17:54   and it never took off that film was one [TS]

00:17:56   of the first science-fiction related [TS]

00:17:59   films i saw after Star Wars and it stuck [TS]

00:18:01   in my mind like it's one of the many [TS]

00:18:02   films that I saw on beta tape and that [TS]

00:18:06   film in particular stuck with me over [TS]

00:18:08   and over i don't think i read the the [TS]

00:18:09   actual book until much later there are [TS]

00:18:11   certain images like images of that I the [TS]

00:18:14   monorail or whatever the high train i [TS]

00:18:17   just remember the the giant like the [TS]

00:18:18   architecture and things like that and [TS]

00:18:20   it's just it's a very striking film even [TS]

00:18:23   if it's not entirely solid I haven't [TS]

00:18:25   seen it i have not either i read the [TS]

00:18:27   breadline high school yeah i reread it a [TS]

00:18:29   couple years ago because i was i was [TS]

00:18:31   interested to see I i read some other [TS]

00:18:33   Bradbury stuff and really liked it and [TS]

00:18:34   was just sort of like I should go back [TS]

00:18:36   and read fahrenheit for yeah he's cool [TS]

00:18:38   he's really good actually a fantastic [TS]

00:18:40   writer and if there's a one-book i would [TS]

00:18:42   recommend it's something wicked this way [TS]

00:18:44   home yes that which is a great sense [TS]

00:18:46   look bill is about childhood Spence [TS]

00:18:48   chills up my spine read that read it i [TS]

00:18:51   read that in i had just moved into my [TS]

00:18:53   life after college like my first [TS]

00:18:55   apartment I didn't have like a bed yet i [TS]

00:18:57   remember had less sleep and like a [TS]

00:18:58   mattress on the floor reading this book [TS]

00:18:59   and it really is it's not it's not scary [TS]

00:19:03   but it's creepy and like a really [TS]

00:19:05   effective way and it's just it's his his [TS]

00:19:08   prose is honestly lyrical really when it [TS]

00:19:11   gets down to it in a way that I don't [TS]

00:19:13   think a lot of people right and I've [TS]

00:19:15   read a couple other things by him since [TS]

00:19:16   time that I like them i go back and [TS]

00:19:18   forth but but that [TS]

00:19:19   one this particular stuck in my mind is [TS]

00:19:21   like it just it's so evocative there's a [TS]

00:19:24   a forget how could the movie is 90 [TS]

00:19:26   adaptation 1981 of the TV movie with [TS]

00:19:28   like jonathan pryce i knows jason [TS]

00:19:31   robards now they're the the thickets [TS]

00:19:32   uneven but jason robards fine actor and [TS]

00:19:35   he's very moving as the father needs a [TS]

00:19:37   father worried about losing his son the [TS]

00:19:39   son want to grow faster than he could [TS]

00:19:41   and the Ray Bradbury he's only you know [TS]

00:19:43   he always fought and fights the [TS]

00:19:44   science-fiction label because he thinks [TS]

00:19:46   of himself as you know writing the Great [TS]

00:19:48   American Novel or short story over and [TS]

00:19:49   over again and it uses the least amount [TS]

00:19:52   of fantasy or science fiction horror [TS]

00:19:54   elements that he can to convey the [TS]

00:19:56   emotional reality of what he's saying [TS]

00:19:59   we've got very seriously also what you [TS]

00:20:00   also write so if you ever get a chance [TS]

00:20:01   to read his essays he has written some [TS]

00:20:03   fabulous s have a collection of essays [TS]

00:20:05   including at least one about I think [TS]

00:20:08   about Apple we talked a bit about it [TS]

00:20:11   about Apple computers and I think like [TS]

00:20:13   into them in some ways to disney he was [TS]

00:20:15   I think he was friends with walt disney [TS]

00:20:17   at some point helping with some of the [TS]

00:20:18   like Disney World planning or what have [TS]

00:20:21   you and there's a cryogenic crypt [TS]

00:20:22   awaiting him check out when i got my cab [TS]

00:20:27   thanks [TS]

00:20:27   Wow short stories are also very [TS]

00:20:29   brilliant s4 space is one of the first [TS]

00:20:31   science fiction books I ever checked out [TS]

00:20:33   from the library i must have been like [TS]

00:20:34   six or seven and it was most of it was [TS]

00:20:36   very much over my head and very scary [TS]

00:20:38   but I like I kept that book from the [TS]

00:20:42   library for about six months and paid a [TS]

00:20:45   whole lot of overdue fines out of my [TS]

00:20:46   lions but it was my favorite book and I [TS]

00:20:48   read it over and over and over for at [TS]

00:20:50   least a year i was reading some short [TS]

00:20:52   story collection by him recently and i [TS]

00:20:53   found it i guess i don't know i was a [TS]

00:20:55   little disappointed because I found a [TS]

00:20:57   lot of the story is very like kind of [TS]

00:21:01   hit you over the head with the with the [TS]

00:21:02   symbolism some of them i mean yeah like [TS]

00:21:05   there's one that's for example basically [TS]

00:21:07   about like what if there's this planet [TS]

00:21:09   of aliens and like Jesus came down and [TS]

00:21:11   like a spaceship or something and [TS]

00:21:13   everybody like you know people ignoring [TS]

00:21:14   basically I mean it's and kind available [TS]

00:21:17   it's very thinly veiled and so it was a [TS]

00:21:20   little bit and and there i mean ii still [TS]

00:21:22   a great writer i think but it it's not [TS]

00:21:24   as i don't know i found it a little to [TS]

00:21:27   hit me over the head of the message [TS]

00:21:28   well and i think that's that's really [TS]

00:21:29   where it's what's best and what what [TS]

00:21:31   syfy does best [TS]

00:21:33   I'm is it is well it makes you happy my [TS]

00:21:36   story Jesus is a robot makes you [TS]

00:21:39   re-evaluate that Robo Jesus I am I mean [TS]

00:21:42   throw but Jesus that was restrained and [TS]

00:21:45   I was trying to do filme are there and I [TS]

00:21:46   didn't have my own completely tangential [TS]

00:21:49   note too that I mean we tangents away [TS]

00:21:51   now [TS]

00:21:52   well once read real yeah I need to step [TS]

00:21:55   back to Ray Bradbury because i was [TS]

00:21:57   looking more time i was looking up the [TS]

00:21:58   fahrenheit 451 movie which is made in [TS]

00:22:01   1966 directed by francois truffaut like [TS]

00:22:05   which I did and starring starting Oscar [TS]

00:22:08   water and julie christie which I oh [TS]

00:22:10   never really couldn't Truffaut making [TS]

00:22:13   just talking about you know influential [TS]

00:22:15   directors make cool [TS]

00:22:17   yes also layers who saw the original [TS]

00:22:19   arrangement friend Larry at night is a [TS]

00:22:22   fascinating movie partly because it [TS]

00:22:24   includes long I mean it's a you know [TS]

00:22:26   it's a very stylistic film but it is as [TS]

00:22:28   one of the most disturbing things you [TS]

00:22:31   can see because a lot of that the one [TS]

00:22:33   without George Clooney would have [TS]

00:22:34   charged pretty it's it's disturbing [TS]

00:22:36   because it's it presents no it's all [TS]

00:22:39   about simulacrum what is real what is [TS]

00:22:41   not real and things being created from [TS]

00:22:43   memory but it's disturbing that the [TS]

00:22:44   things that should be most disturbing [TS]

00:22:46   are presented in a very ordinary fashion [TS]

00:22:47   such as they're orbiting this star you [TS]

00:22:51   know far from Earth of the sort of no [TS]

00:22:52   explanation of the science and getting [TS]

00:22:54   there whatever let's just they do that [TS]

00:22:55   but the fact that the star turns out to [TS]

00:22:57   be an intel intelligent creating life [TS]

00:22:59   from their memories and so forth is [TS]

00:23:01   that's that in you know these people are [TS]

00:23:02   presented other actors nose doesn't need [TS]

00:23:04   to be special effects like his dead wife [TS]

00:23:07   appears and he has to cope with that [TS]

00:23:10   even though he knows she's a simulacrum [TS]

00:23:11   it's um it's very psychologically [TS]

00:23:13   disturbing in the middle of all this [TS]

00:23:14   dispensable science fiction isn't like [TS]

00:23:16   five hours longer yeah there's there's a [TS]

00:23:18   scene where he's driving the astronauts [TS]

00:23:20   driving from his you know the doctor or [TS]

00:23:22   something into is a doctor to the city [TS]

00:23:25   that goes on in real and I know exactly [TS]

00:23:27   how you're not sure like this is 20 [TS]

00:23:29   minutes the man driving a car but it's [TS]

00:23:30   sort of trying to I think p.m. [TS]

00:23:32   simulations have you seen lights and [TS]

00:23:34   excellence and you have you seen the [TS]

00:23:36   fountain has anybody seen found any [TS]

00:23:38   right now I you see in the many of the [TS]

00:23:40   long series of things that God is not [TS]

00:23:41   finished i tried to watch them [TS]

00:23:43   uh-huh out nice i like the [TS]

00:23:46   and although I mean I i I'm not sure [TS]

00:23:48   whether I like it or I appreciate it was [TS]

00:23:50   trying to do in which failed at but it [TS]

00:23:52   is roger ebert recently wrote an [TS]

00:23:55   appreciation of it because Darren [TS]

00:23:57   Aronofsky just directed that is the [TS]

00:24:01   fighter help and no xbox one and the [TS]

00:24:04   rest opinions bell x-1 haven't seen I [TS]

00:24:06   can't wait to see his follow-up [TS]

00:24:07   Wolverine that's not a joke he's [TS]

00:24:10   directing makes me think I mind but but [TS]

00:24:12   the the but it's like that the the [TS]

00:24:14   fountain is similar in that way where [TS]

00:24:16   it's a I mean it's three stories that [TS]

00:24:18   are interlocked where it's the same guy [TS]

00:24:19   and he's a conquistadora working for [TS]

00:24:21   Queen Isabella and then that he's a guy [TS]

00:24:23   whose wife is it is Isabel and is dying [TS]

00:24:27   of cancer and then there's this [TS]

00:24:28   astronaut and and it's still Hugh [TS]

00:24:29   Jackman again see wolverine [TS]

00:24:32   internationally and and he's in the far [TS]

00:24:35   future and he's on this tree spaceship [TS]

00:24:37   that's going to the star and his will a [TS]

00:24:40   10 and it's and you know the Ebert's [TS]

00:24:43   pieces is about how it's really you know [TS]

00:24:45   you could the present day is the reality [TS]

00:24:48   the past is story is the story that his [TS]

00:24:51   wife is writing because she's a novelist [TS]

00:24:53   and in the future is he had she dies and [TS]

00:24:55   he has to finish her novel and he dreams [TS]

00:24:57   that he's bringing her back to life on [TS]

00:25:00   this spaceship and it's beautiful but it [TS]

00:25:02   is it is slow and weird and when you [TS]

00:25:06   describe solaris I thought that you know [TS]

00:25:08   that sort of like the fountain although [TS]

00:25:09   although some sunshine the danny boyle [TS]

00:25:12   movie is also slow and weird and I'm not [TS]

00:25:15   sure it makes sense more like you have a [TS]

00:25:17   large it yeah I sort of a great a great [TS]

00:25:19   game you can play is summarized are [TS]

00:25:22   incredibly complicated movie in one [TS]

00:25:24   sentence that destroys all beauty and [TS]

00:25:27   meaning it [TS]

00:25:27   thank you very okay this is no I mean [TS]

00:25:30   Roger everything it's like it's very [TS]

00:25:32   complicated i'm not i mean i'm sort of [TS]

00:25:34   like it is that an American society a [TS]

00:25:36   man in a mask decides to blow up [TS]

00:25:39   Parliament to that's good at that's good [TS]

00:25:42   yeah rich guy likes his sled [TS]

00:25:46   oh that's boiler horn everybody [TS]

00:25:52   I think I've been more like Rich Jerk [TS]

00:25:55   just misses his slider that's the thing [TS]

00:25:58   that I've always found really curious [TS]

00:25:59   about the fountain which I never saw but [TS]

00:26:01   I heard a lot about it technically [TS]

00:26:03   because I have friends who are very sort [TS]

00:26:04   of into the technical things that all [TS]

00:26:06   the space effects and the fountain and [TS]

00:26:08   all of the really interesting kind of [TS]

00:26:10   weird visual effects were all created by [TS]

00:26:13   filming things splitting under a [TS]

00:26:17   microscope coils and so yeah and and [TS]

00:26:19   putting putting oils and sew all there's [TS]

00:26:22   like I think there's a scene of the [TS]

00:26:23   universe exploding or something not [TS]

00:26:25   exploding but well yeah I think that's [TS]

00:26:27   the whole like end with the tree and [TS]

00:26:29   this light and the game cosmos HD is [TS]

00:26:33   weird [TS]

00:26:33   cosmos for the ipad actually reminds me [TS]

00:26:36   of this movie I'm not kidding because [TS]

00:26:37   it's strange forms that seem alive [TS]

00:26:39   moving back and forth and undulating are [TS]

00:26:43   out man with it but Stephen Fry yeah [TS]

00:26:45   that no reason it's not so so backing it [TS]

00:26:49   up again [TS]

00:26:50   uh other any other like books that you [TS]

00:26:53   were assigned in school that are [TS]

00:26:54   supposed to be great literature that it [TS]

00:26:56   that are sort of shh don't tell anybody [TS]

00:26:58   that it's actually most brave new world [TS]

00:27:01   the world's yummiest classic example a [TS]

00:27:03   hard time getting through an amazing [TS]

00:27:04   woman yeah but he was also one of those [TS]

00:27:06   that's high acclaim literature and [TS]

00:27:08   without using hard we just want to [TS]

00:27:10   justify the water and its sequel was [TS]

00:27:12   really hard to read to review was so [TS]

00:27:15   hard that my favorite favorite favorite [TS]

00:27:16   brave new world with a vengeance please [TS]

00:27:19   I don't even remember our the old where [TS]

00:27:21   there may be actually right now we're [TS]

00:27:24   brave new world to yes the world being [TS]

00:27:26   electric building a world in the blue [TS]

00:27:29   electric boogaloo its all-electric moby [TS]

00:27:32   dick weed is science fiction highway [TS]

00:27:35   like the admin telepathic about the [TS]

00:27:38   winch by that by super-intelligent by [TS]

00:27:40   that a tragic you know you have reserved [TS]

00:27:43   connected to 20,000 leagues under the [TS]

00:27:44   sea spongebob and also sighs make sure [TS]

00:27:48   there are no talking to the man is a [TS]

00:27:50   sponge I did was your Jules Verne [TS]

00:27:52   basically as the inventor of science [TS]

00:27:54   fiction right yet essential that one [TS]

00:27:56   could argue he's a time traveler because [TS]

00:27:58   he really had way too much knowledge of [TS]

00:28:00   the future when you wrote the book on it [TS]

00:28:01   really great the future or perhaps [TS]

00:28:03   everybody read the books and was like we [TS]

00:28:05   need to move [TS]

00:28:06   course this kind of societal that's [TS]

00:28:08   that's a 4 chronological very pleasant [TS]

00:28:10   pleasant work you just get passed a note [TS]

00:28:13   from our studio i did and they read I [TS]

00:28:16   think he was content are you contending [TS]

00:28:17   the dead George George Orwell is the [TS]

00:28:19   only other creator of science fiction [TS]

00:28:20   because animal farm had talking animals [TS]

00:28:23   i think you can just argue the george [TS]

00:28:26   orwell as the the forerunner of the [TS]

00:28:28   downfall of modern cinema as a result [TS]

00:28:30   because if you've seen the Garfield [TS]

00:28:32   movie original responsible George Orwell [TS]

00:28:34   is really the Garfield sequel a tale of [TS]

00:28:36   two kitties [TS]

00:28:37   what has two puns in the title which is [TS]

00:28:41   just because tail is really an eye out [TS]

00:28:43   to Kitty and kitties [TS]

00:28:45   yeah have you seen don't go to movies [TS]

00:28:47   have you seen zombieland we spoiled and [TS]

00:28:49   unappreciative podcast but Sebastian [TS]

00:28:51   great let's line it bill murray i'm not [TS]

00:28:52   going to spoil anything but i'll say [TS]

00:28:53   bill murray makes a cameo appearance and [TS]

00:28:55   they at one point they asked him if he [TS]

00:28:57   had any regrets in his life and he says [TS]

00:28:59   no well maybe car filled that isn't in [TS]

00:29:03   also it has a fantastic movie star [TS]

00:29:06   Garfield ya mi or tail of two kitties [TS]

00:29:08   know both both on my top ten view them [TS]

00:29:11   really it's one movie and have to split [TS]

00:29:13   into because i was too much seriously [TS]

00:29:15   one Garfield back and go back and watch [TS]

00:29:17   it and hey look [TS]

00:29:19   science fiction 287 secondary watch it [TS]

00:29:22   Beethoven seconds like why is the 1i [TS]

00:29:25   haven't had a chance yet to read this [TS]

00:29:26   this article passengers by a French [TS]

00:29:29   friend who sent some article about how [TS]

00:29:32   the prequel the Star Wars prequels are [TS]

00:29:34   actually really really awesome treasure [TS]

00:29:36   we know we are now it is now the [TS]

00:29:38   incomparable podcast because because [TS]

00:29:40   this hour we're gonna start throwing out [TS]

00:29:42   right now it was just an idea later dude [TS]

00:29:45   I haven't read this article yet but it [TS]

00:29:46   apparently there's this guy who really [TS]

00:29:48   earnestly argues that the prequels were [TS]

00:29:50   really George Lucas's finest work and [TS]

00:29:52   it's just like the the self delusion [TS]

00:29:53   that must go into that is just I find [TS]

00:29:55   that fascinating [TS]

00:29:56   well maybe he's on a type of drug that [TS]

00:29:58   we just haven't discovered you and ya [TS]

00:30:00   know really like drugs we were talking [TS]

00:30:03   about and mom but Stephen Fry know we [TS]

00:30:06   were talking about [TS]

00:30:06   well find out about look at that there's [TS]

00:30:08   this there's this some old movie serial [TS]

00:30:12   that we're all supposed to watch for a [TS]

00:30:13   future project for the uncomfortable and [TS]

00:30:15   we were talking about how how that was [TS]

00:30:18   it turns out that there was a show when [TS]

00:30:19   I [TS]

00:30:19   kid you might have seen it these people [TS]

00:30:22   are too young called cliffhangers i [TS]

00:30:23   don't know if you remember that but it [TS]

00:30:25   was an NBC show in the idea was it was 3 [TS]

00:30:26   20 minute segments in an hour and it was [TS]

00:30:28   three different stories and it was maybe [TS]

00:30:31   when the show began it was like part two [TS]

00:30:33   of the one store in part 4 and part 5 [TS]

00:30:35   and then every episode had a cliffhanger [TS]

00:30:37   and one of those is actually based on [TS]

00:30:39   the short that we're supposed to watch [TS]

00:30:41   and I and and i was talking I think [TS]

00:30:44   maybe the damn about this and and he [TS]

00:30:46   said well you know that was what George [TS]

00:30:47   Lucas was getting at was that kind of [TS]

00:30:49   we're joining the middle of the action [TS]

00:30:50   with episode 4 [TS]

00:30:52   unfortunately he then felt compelled to [TS]

00:30:54   make the first three [TS]

00:30:56   I mean it went from being kind of like [TS]

00:30:57   an interesting artsy like you're in the [TS]

00:31:00   middle but there is no beginning and no [TS]

00:31:01   ending right and then into now this is [TS]

00:31:04   beginning its narrow and it's not that [TS]

00:31:06   good here's a secret about beginnings [TS]

00:31:08   and origin stories not really that great [TS]

00:31:11   the time to previous podcast yeah like [TS]

00:31:13   orange in the stories were born child [TS]

00:31:15   linger into my storyboarding like [TS]

00:31:17   Orangina story order is right for you [TS]

00:31:19   when I'm I had a bottle of orange I grew [TS]

00:31:21   up with orange julius I'd love that [TS]

00:31:23   yeah that's just the guy on the street [TS]

00:31:25   is even able to make time you're gonna [TS]

00:31:27   you're Stephen Fry is actually this is [TS]

00:31:30   the podcast which mentions even fried [TS]

00:31:32   the most and never really talked to [TS]

00:31:34   unify apparently built the Gutenberg [TS]

00:31:36   press or replica of a couple years ago [TS]

00:31:38   for a TV series about you get up [TS]

00:31:41   something like that like improbable fact [TS]

00:31:43   about Steven Wright you try also once [TS]

00:31:46   ran around the entire world is the [TS]

00:31:48   strongest and the world Stephen Stephen [TS]

00:31:50   you doing the good word press [TS]

00:31:52   he he i watched his thing about it yeah [TS]

00:31:54   you did not only do himself clean I'm [TS]

00:31:56   not original you know I mean I went back [TS]

00:31:58   in to know that he was johannes [TS]

00:32:00   gutenberg is cable stephen Fry's hearts [TS]

00:32:02   me it wasn't you know Dan Morgan has met [TS]

00:32:05   Stephen Fry I am socialist him he was a [TS]

00:32:10   nice fellow I guess I'm the guy who [TS]

00:32:11   doesn't make it out of here alive [TS]

00:32:13   pretty much so one man is very nice [TS]

00:32:15   fellows very pleasant in fact actually [TS]

00:32:16   one of our friends who knows him got him [TS]

00:32:19   to sign a book for me too so I got a [TS]

00:32:21   nice personalized book you know he he [TS]

00:32:23   wrote a doctor who episode that they [TS]

00:32:24   never made a lot I don't know about that [TS]

00:32:26   yeah what Russell Davis asked him to do [TS]

00:32:29   a doctor who episode and apparently he [TS]

00:32:31   wrote the first draft [TS]

00:32:33   and it was going to cost it was going to [TS]

00:32:35   be for the end of the season and it was [TS]

00:32:36   going to cost a fortune much like what [TS]

00:32:37   happened with neil gaiman actually and [TS]

00:32:40   um and so they said well we have to [TS]

00:32:42   defer this next year and and the story [TS]

00:32:44   is that then they went back to Stephen [TS]

00:32:45   Fry and he was like you know I don't [TS]

00:32:47   have time to do another run at this it's [TS]

00:32:50   like I'm on the phone with him streaming [TS]

00:32:51   to TV shows and traveled to Australia [TS]

00:32:54   yeah I don't have time for that yeah [TS]

00:32:55   well reading the russell davies book [TS]

00:32:57   about about writers tail yes my desk the [TS]

00:33:00   Giants it's it costs seven thousand [TS]

00:33:03   dollars to send from Seattle sometimes [TS]

00:33:04   how do i wait the subtitle is how to [TS]

00:33:07   procrastinate while doing a [TS]

00:33:08   multimillion-dollar TV show how to write [TS]

00:33:10   a book about not reading the TV show [TS]

00:33:12   that you're being paid to write but one [TS]

00:33:14   of the things in it there's some good [TS]

00:33:15   technical detail in there it's just [TS]

00:33:16   interesting if you want you know we [TS]

00:33:17   watched enough TV to know about how some [TS]

00:33:19   of the sci-fi steps made they talked [TS]

00:33:20   about effect days which I hadn't come up [TS]

00:33:21   and so he'll write a script and then it [TS]

00:33:23   gets red by the production team and they [TS]

00:33:25   send it to their other effects house [TS]

00:33:26   will be like okay well this thing you [TS]

00:33:28   want this is gonna be like 783 people [TS]

00:33:31   days worth of time for affects our [TS]

00:33:33   budget is for like 201 days which will [TS]

00:33:36   cost index hundreds of thousands of [TS]

00:33:38   dollars you have to cut you know scenes [TS]

00:33:40   and actions amount here like 500 days [TS]

00:33:42   worth of rendering time so that's why [TS]

00:33:44   sometimes doctor who you're watching it [TS]

00:33:46   and they're too long it's like we must [TS]

00:33:48   make it across this gap and blow up that [TS]

00:33:50   ship and whatever haha where they are [TS]

00:33:51   but oh well I'm not saying that's not a [TS]

00:33:54   time-honored rite like I mean you know [TS]

00:33:55   there's the reason that all the Star [TS]

00:33:57   Trek you know TV show episodes from town [TS]

00:33:59   stages and they don't look suspicious or [TS]

00:34:01   like the that one piece of California [TS]

00:34:04   know like what that's a scarce right [TS]

00:34:06   yeah yeah which is I great the best [TS]

00:34:08   proof ever of that or the best reference [TS]

00:34:10   that ever in the second film Ted movie [TS]

00:34:12   yes they go there although although [TS]

00:34:13   actually i would argue that the the new [TS]

00:34:15   star trek reboot where they where they [TS]

00:34:17   went back there to make it Vulcan was a [TS]

00:34:19   great reference just like it's gotten me [TS]

00:34:21   in here it's a star trek it's got [TS]

00:34:23   against master i wanna I've never been [TS]

00:34:25   there i want to go there sometime just [TS]

00:34:26   because I corn anybody that our red [TS]

00:34:29   shirt or yellow final Dorne and i'll be [TS]

00:34:31   visited by the ghost of the first Slayer [TS]

00:34:33   because Buffy the Vampire Slayer's [TS]

00:34:35   episode where she has her dream [TS]

00:34:37   obviously live and see [TS]

00:34:39   long as she isn't season three was [TS]

00:34:41   actually watching it now we're going to [TS]

00:34:43   do a buffy retrospective win with that [TS]

00:34:45   night when you actually I think she's in [TS]

00:34:47   three it's um yeah that's right spoiler [TS]

00:34:49   spoiler alert for the show that was off [TS]

00:34:51   the air in 2003 but I think that's ok [TS]

00:34:54   it's my fault it's okay it's okay it is [TS]

00:34:56   my favorite TV show all she was young I [TS]

00:34:58   was Amish between the two so classic [TS]

00:35:00   well its got a silly title for the best [TS]

00:35:02   show ever but it is that it was on upn I [TS]

00:35:05   mean was on me before that only the two [TS]

00:35:08   bad years yeah and yeah yeah but the [TS]

00:35:10   person who has not seen it is arguing [TS]

00:35:12   with the two guys who came it was [TS]

00:35:13   reading wikipedia first five years were [TS]

00:35:15   on the WB and then removed it for the [TS]

00:35:17   last two disappointing was it before or [TS]

00:35:19   after show was an APM slaughter 9 p.m. [TS]

00:35:21   slot that is way too [TS]

00:35:23   it was wasn't it was it was a 9 p.m. [TS]

00:35:25   slot for most of it or then if i make no [TS]

00:35:28   always probably past my bedtime [TS]

00:35:29   no it was an ATM someone because angel [TS]

00:35:31   was on a toughy [TS]

00:35:33   ok it was still on WB that did not let [TS]

00:35:36   never ever left down now your places [TS]

00:35:39   like the swerve easiest podcast ever [TS]

00:35:41   issued work we'd only been drinking [TS]

00:35:43   would have a much more sense [TS]

00:35:44   ya know we've already men that are all I [TS]

00:35:46   think something called all the oregon i [TS]

00:35:48   recommend our listeners drink before I [TS]

00:35:51   think you put a recipe at the outset of [TS]

00:35:53   this please pour your job bro martini [TS]

00:35:55   but this is the incomparable after dark [TS]

00:35:59   that was not much longer now you know [TS]

00:36:00   locked in a room [TS]

00:36:02   Stephen Fry no longer live TV show [TS]

00:36:04   called a bit of fry and laurie at the [TS]

00:36:05   end of each other with your glory to [TS]

00:36:07   glory he has done your house and someone [TS]

00:36:09   already one of America's finest actors [TS]

00:36:11   and please sing it's lovely [TS]

00:36:13   anybody have been imitating trumpet very [TS]

00:36:15   convincing yes and they always serve a [TS]

00:36:17   drink what should we order for the drink [TS]

00:36:18   as well have the hat tricks like are you [TS]

00:36:20   take three pounds of dried ice shavings [TS]

00:36:23   and arsenic mix them together and Shake [TS]

00:36:26   and Shake swell mr. music plays and [TS]

00:36:29   that's what I cannot believe that you [TS]

00:36:30   brought it around to stephen fry again [TS]

00:36:32   there that is my witness protection plan [TS]

00:36:35   i am amazed by that know it's funny you [TS]

00:36:37   mention the doctor who special effects [TS]

00:36:38   and I was just watching the one of the [TS]

00:36:42   just watching a commentary tracks of the [TS]

00:36:45   fifth season of doctor who and there's [TS]

00:36:46   actually a shot that uh it's in the the [TS]

00:36:50   weeping angels episode where where [TS]

00:36:52   there's [TS]

00:36:52   the the charges follows the spaceship [TS]

00:36:54   and the spaceship zooms off in the [TS]

00:36:56   TARDIS follows it and a funny thing [TS]

00:36:57   happened Steven Moffat said you know [TS]

00:36:59   that wasn't in the script and the guys [TS]

00:37:01   at the special effects house wanted so [TS]

00:37:03   badly to have the zooming spaceship and [TS]

00:37:05   the tarts doing it they just made it for [TS]

00:37:07   free so so occasionally you'll pick up [TS]

00:37:09   some some rendering time because the [TS]

00:37:11   guys will be like no this is too cool we [TS]

00:37:12   cannot do this is just to have Doctor [TS]

00:37:15   Who geeks work on your show and then [TS]

00:37:17   knock out all the good stuff and make [TS]

00:37:19   them render the bad stuff and then to in [TS]

00:37:21   order to keep themselves alive they'll [TS]

00:37:23   just forcibly rendered and don't pay [TS]

00:37:24   them and dont and dont thats how i [TS]

00:37:27   operated and when I was independent [TS]

00:37:29   films i think that's how the BBC works [TS]

00:37:30   basically at this point that explains it [TS]

00:37:33   alright so Stephen Fry brave new world [TS]

00:37:34   Ray Bradbury I think we've had names [TS]

00:37:37   bond all the glorious solaris Sean [TS]

00:37:40   Connery laughlin befriended we mentioned [TS]

00:37:42   that already [TS]

00:37:43   I and Alan with these all in a shaker [TS]

00:37:45   well mix well serve searcher serve 12 [TS]

00:37:49   chilled over ice [TS]

00:37:51   so the pound of lemon right and I MN [TS]

00:37:53   garnish with buffy the vampire slayer [TS]

00:37:55   all lemons which is what's what's your [TS]

00:37:58   what's your favorite TV show of all time [TS]

00:38:00   you have won a television show of all [TS]

00:38:01   time could God actually okay yeah you [TS]

00:38:05   got you know I would probably go with [TS]

00:38:07   them actually a great show that is in [TS]

00:38:09   and of itself not science fiction but [TS]

00:38:11   it's sort of an homage to its paste I [TS]

00:38:13   knew you were gonna say that [TS]

00:38:14   sports night is a close second sports [TS]

00:38:16   nice and space mountain but it's again a [TS]

00:38:19   second so so we taking my top to do you [TS]

00:38:21   feel this with sports and as I feel with [TS]

00:38:23   Buffy that I sort of love it despite the [TS]

00:38:25   fact that in at the end it was good [TS]

00:38:27   because I don't honor it season of [TS]

00:38:29   sports know there's only 20 to start [TS]

00:38:30   season 2i thought it seemed like three [TS]

00:38:32   because the second season was so bad up [TS]

00:38:35   there are there are some downsides of [TS]

00:38:36   the second season in terms of plot lines [TS]

00:38:38   but the writing is still good though the [TS]

00:38:40   rating in the characters are still like [TS]

00:38:41   although I thought the second season [TS]

00:38:42   really miss of sports night really [TS]

00:38:44   misused the women characters and made [TS]

00:38:47   them more kind of broad and chriqui and [TS]

00:38:49   i would agree to a certain extent but i [TS]

00:38:51   think i was so glad to have the laugh [TS]

00:38:53   track on from sports night / levels also [TS]

00:38:55   there are fantastic [TS]

00:38:57   I mean you have william h macy nada arc [TS]

00:38:59   which is he's great well you know his [TS]

00:39:02   wife's on the show yeah well [TS]

00:39:03   me and I'm very dynamic like they did I [TS]

00:39:05   have good chemistry for America the [TS]

00:39:07   dialogue sparkle so that's great but [TS]

00:39:09   space space i think with again which is [TS]

00:39:11   an interactive hey simon pegg Jessica [TS]

00:39:13   Hynes nay Stephenson and directed by [TS]

00:39:16   edgar wright and of course right and [TS]

00:39:19   Pegg and Nick Frost went on to make [TS]

00:39:21   shaun of the dead [TS]

00:39:22   uh-huhs and the forthcoming at some [TS]

00:39:26   point third part of what they call I [TS]

00:39:28   believe that that grouping will be [TS]

00:39:29   called the blood and ice cream trilogy [TS]

00:39:30   they have said which has no particular [TS]

00:39:33   you know there is no thread between them [TS]

00:39:35   other than they thought wouldn't it be [TS]

00:39:36   cool to make a zombie movie wouldn't be [TS]

00:39:38   cool to make like a cop action movie and [TS]

00:39:40   I think the third one is like a doomsday [TS]

00:39:41   movie of some kind sometimes someday [TS]

00:39:43   eventually led zeppelin's but space is [TS]

00:39:46   based if the best part of it is if you [TS]

00:39:48   manage to get four years I just had the [TS]

00:39:50   the region to British dvds because i got [TS]

00:39:52   i got into the show was still airing [TS]

00:39:54   because i was living in the UK at the [TS]

00:39:55   time my friends like you have to see [TS]

00:39:57   this show and I was like alright yeah i [TS]

00:39:59   mean ok so i started watching it and I [TS]

00:40:01   was hooked within an episode and went [TS]

00:40:03   back and got like the first season of it [TS]

00:40:04   wash all of it but the the best feature [TS]

00:40:08   on the dvds is they have an homage [TS]

00:40:10   ometer which you turn on its a subtitle [TS]

00:40:12   track that tells you what all the [TS]

00:40:14   references are 20 and its fans I mean [TS]

00:40:17   there's a lot i only get about half and [TS]

00:40:19   that's on the region 1 DVD i believe [TS]

00:40:21   that is now on they went back because [TS]

00:40:22   originally was a feature on the second [TS]

00:40:24   series dvds and then when they made the [TS]

00:40:25   box set of the whole different way back [TS]

00:40:27   and be one of the first the same things [TS]

00:40:29   on shot our I'm not Sean did on Scott [TS]

00:40:32   Pilgrim Edgar Wright's for third third [TS]

00:40:35   third film [TS]

00:40:36   yeah yes that points out all of the in [TS]

00:40:39   joke references in that film as well I [TS]

00:40:42   that's a good thought of my favorite TV [TS]

00:40:44   series [TS]

00:40:44   what's your favorite TV show we're out [TS]

00:40:45   of it is going to be the happy little [TS]

00:40:46   trees guy don't know the oil dating show [TS]

00:40:48   only the stream that's great that would [TS]

00:40:51   be awesome it's like I like the happy [TS]

00:40:52   little tree i will try to pick a lightly [TS]

00:40:54   oiled advanced deposit-taking I think [TS]

00:40:57   you should let me hard the funky phantom [TS]

00:40:58   yes [TS]

00:41:00   gpo Sharkey started on wrinkles harsh [TS]

00:41:02   realm the failed chris carter series [TS]

00:41:05   after the xbox you don't I really liked [TS]

00:41:06   her Hitchcock had a terrible file also [TS]

00:41:08   good pilot was bad but no Terry O'Quinn [TS]

00:41:11   is like a banana republic city area [TS]

00:41:13   original reality right that's awesome i [TS]

00:41:15   love that show that was that was on your [TS]

00:41:17   way to make it to be swinging your ID be [TS]

00:41:19   swinging oh my god sorry time between [TS]

00:41:22   rockford files and smack the pony really [TS]

00:41:25   i would say rockford that's what i meant [TS]

00:41:26   those are married anyway I don't know [TS]

00:41:28   what smack the city really jeopardy show [TS]

00:41:30   incredibly funny british sketch coca [TS]

00:41:33   show you have to say it like I see it [TS]

00:41:34   was like a the female heir to my python [TS]

00:41:39   it was extremely absurd as they were [TS]

00:41:41   skits with no connecting material is [TS]

00:41:43   very talented honor [TS]

00:41:44   Sarah Alexander from couple oh I believe [TS]

00:41:47   the islets i think is not who is this is [TS]

00:41:50   Alan knows a blunt Susan Susan is that [TS]

00:41:53   Sarah's and Chester exactly yes on that [TS]

00:41:55   she was a featured player there are [TS]

00:41:57   three main actions whose names i could [TS]

00:41:59   not tell you they show up all over the [TS]

00:42:00   place one was in clatter for this great [TS]

00:42:02   short-run british TV series created by [TS]

00:42:04   the woman behind absolutely fabulous [TS]

00:42:07   jennifer saunders Jennifer Saunders who [TS]

00:42:09   if you start talking to jennifer [TS]

00:42:10   saunders she connects to all other [TS]

00:42:12   British total including here and there [TS]

00:42:14   is a all connected they all contribute [TS]

00:42:16   she's like she's a lot that's my wife [TS]

00:42:18   and I joke there are only 10 actors in [TS]

00:42:19   the UK so when you see it may be seeing [TS]

00:42:21   you okay it's like they're all in harry [TS]

00:42:24   potter we're gonna ask you all the young [TS]

00:42:25   that was that at one point many of these [TS]

00:42:27   are the ones you go back and watch the [TS]

00:42:30   episode no man young ones also favored [TS]

00:42:32   you like watch the young ones you see [TS]

00:42:33   all these British actors who grew up and [TS]

00:42:35   do other things and they're all in there [TS]

00:42:36   and cameos that I could actually spend [TS]

00:42:38   an entire podcast is talking about my [TS]

00:42:40   favorite TV shows including pretty sure [TS]

00:42:41   to be a future show rocks rocker files [TS]

00:42:44   smack the pony rock the fuck rockford [TS]

00:42:45   files in my dad's favorite TV show and [TS]

00:42:47   it is and we're going back and watching [TS]

00:42:48   it it is a great show and they try to [TS]

00:42:51   remake it and it had a pilot with Dermot [TS]

00:42:53   Mulroney i think yeah and it was a total [TS]

00:42:55   flop and they didn't pick it up but [TS]

00:42:56   there's a rumor that they're trying to [TS]

00:42:58   reread it that and and what everybody [TS]

00:43:01   wants to do is cast josh holloway who [TS]

00:43:04   was Sawyer on lost [TS]

00:43:06   oh and you know what watching him on [TS]

00:43:08   lost especially when he did his like [TS]

00:43:10   Dharma Initiative jumpsuit kind of [TS]

00:43:12   persona he's going to flare Jim Leffler [TS]

00:43:14   yeah he is the right guy to be Jim [TS]

00:43:17   Rockford he is cool and he's kind of [TS]

00:43:19   laid-back and and that what you want [TS]

00:43:21   that was what was great about James [TS]

00:43:23   Garner's as rockford theme song to [TS]

00:43:25   Rockford Files [TS]

00:43:26   what's playing is it a movie was what [TS]

00:43:28   plays the theme song wasn't already [TS]

00:43:30   synthesized my clothes standing on your [TS]

00:43:33   nose right yeah Mike post-its but the [TS]

00:43:35   man who run us all of those things [TS]

00:43:36   posted brothers yeah everything's yeah [TS]

00:43:39   alright that's a good one of those are [TS]

00:43:41   great thank you [TS]

00:43:42   that's a great well done job well done [TS]

00:43:43   glad you like I saved myself redeem [TS]

00:43:46   myself at the end that's right we won't [TS]

00:43:47   kill you now it'll just will just slowly [TS]

00:43:49   suffocate the shower games tonight Red [TS]

00:43:52   you have a you have a my point is they [TS]

00:43:55   go back and forth between sports night [TS]

00:43:57   and space to but yeah I know that's the [TS]

00:43:59   fault me speaking last fortnight sports [TS]

00:44:02   night I think remains my my all-time [TS]

00:44:04   favorite just because [TS]

00:44:05   yes the as a television show it had its [TS]

00:44:09   flaws but i love the characters and the [TS]

00:44:11   beautiful thing about sports night is [TS]

00:44:13   there's a quote for every occasion [TS]

00:44:14   writer in I mean there's not very many [TS]

00:44:18   television shows that I mean who only [TS]

00:44:19   run for two seasons but for by large x [TS]

00:44:22   large for any situation that I've been [TS]

00:44:25   in my life to date there's a sports [TS]

00:44:27   night quote and it's always funny and [TS]

00:44:30   you know there's the characters are just [TS]

00:44:32   fantastic [TS]

00:44:33   I as you know i read i have two degrees [TS]

00:44:34   of separation Josh Malina have been in [TS]

00:44:36   the same room with him you or was it a [TS]

00:44:39   set a room i'm like a stream that was [TS]

00:44:40   looking to get it yet but had I would [TS]

00:44:42   have you met you before i was hanging on [TS]

00:44:44   i have already met Rick Moranis it's [TS]

00:44:47   time to transplant but cannot ride by [TS]

00:44:50   you know interesting thing i was [TS]

00:44:52   actually making a list of my favorite [TS]

00:44:54   television shows and television shows i [TS]

00:44:57   need to watch a couple games ago yeah [TS]

00:44:59   well no because I had a huge I had a [TS]

00:45:01   huge Luke I keep trying a man top five [TS]

00:45:03   list in my calendar whatever fine that's [TS]

00:45:06   your friend of mine was asking me what [TS]

00:45:08   my top five television shows were and i [TS]

00:45:10   went i was like sports night spaced west [TS]

00:45:13   wing and i stopped at three and aaron [TS]

00:45:15   sorkin yeah well I've only a little bit [TS]

00:45:17   like girls but no I mean anti Josh [TS]

00:45:21   breathing heavily gunshots fired i [TS]

00:45:23   realized that i had to split up into two [TS]

00:45:25   categories at one point because there [TS]

00:45:27   are best overall television shows and [TS]

00:45:29   then there are best seasons where the [TS]

00:45:32   overall series is terrible but [TS]

00:45:34   specifically can make an entire list [TS]

00:45:36   that's just top like top 10 [TS]

00:45:39   and TV shows that were cancelled before [TS]

00:45:41   Sally would not make suggestions to get [TS]

00:45:43   your ID Castile say there's there's a [TS]

00:45:45   great book called what happened to the [TS]

00:45:47   Hall of Fame i think i'm going to [TS]

00:45:48   mention this before i'm not sure why I'm [TS]

00:45:50   by Bill James the man who invented for [TS]

00:45:53   baseball statistical analysis ne ne ne [TS]

00:45:56   is that one or it and then he did the [TS]

00:45:59   historical baseball abstract and he has [TS]

00:46:00   this concept of theirs theirs career [TS]

00:46:03   value and peak value and it's true when [TS]

00:46:06   you're judging a baseball player [TS]

00:46:06   hall-of-famer are the Hall of Famer not [TS]

00:46:08   that's the question is do you pick the [TS]

00:46:10   overall like career that's like well [TS]

00:46:13   over 20 years he was really good or do [TS]

00:46:15   you say well he only played for 15 years [TS]

00:46:17   and he was really kind of mediocre for [TS]

00:46:19   for some of it but when he was good he [TS]

00:46:21   was fantastic and it's TV shows are [TS]

00:46:23   sometimes like that to wear yeah you [TS]

00:46:25   know like buffy is my favorite show of [TS]

00:46:26   all time but the fact is if they had [TS]

00:46:28   made the last two years I'd be okay with [TS]

00:46:30   my wife and we're huge fans of that 70 [TS]

00:46:32   show is very very funny it was you know [TS]

00:46:34   as our childhood it was great and so I [TS]

00:46:36   are my childhood is right in this room [TS]

00:46:38   and I campsite and I've never the oldest [TS]

00:46:41   man in the room but today I the but it's [TS]

00:46:45   always great show for the first few [TS]

00:46:46   seasons we turn on whatever the last [TS]

00:46:47   season of myself that study shows on [TS]

00:46:49   when i started watching her like did [TS]

00:46:51   they kill all the writers would you know [TS]

00:46:53   after the actors are standing and [TS]

00:46:55   they're moving like marionettes their [TS]

00:46:57   accounts happens usually harder i think [TS]

00:46:58   the drama's because there's the writing [TS]

00:47:00   staff changes land and also just because [TS]

00:47:02   Kanye's like it's hard to laughs and you [TS]

00:47:04   you have a certain set of characters and [TS]

00:47:05   you play out all the scenarios right and [TS]

00:47:08   so it also many shows you know basically [TS]

00:47:10   jumped the shark because you you get [TS]

00:47:12   them into more and more far-fetched [TS]

00:47:13   scenario someone more community when [TS]

00:47:16   morgandy got promoted Jonathan winters [TS]

00:47:19   came as they had a bad yeah there's [TS]

00:47:21   always this horrific i mean there's [TS]

00:47:22   always the the annoying neighbor next [TS]

00:47:23   door problem which in what's funny is [TS]

00:47:25   you can tell by the this there's always [TS]

00:47:27   an annoying neighbor next door and some [TS]

00:47:29   point but sometimes you know there's [TS]

00:47:31   some shows you've watched where the [TS]

00:47:32   annoying neighbor next door is on the [TS]

00:47:33   first episode it's a great sign of doom [TS]

00:47:35   yeah the other Bob Newhart's third [TS]

00:47:37   sitcom for instance one where he's a [TS]

00:47:38   cartoonist annoying neighbor i think it [TS]

00:47:41   was a neighborhood the annoying [TS]

00:47:42   character was in the first episode I [TS]

00:47:43   don't like the last did not television [TS]

00:47:45   shows where the annoying character so [TS]

00:47:47   slowly gets redeemed over a series of [TS]

00:47:48   episodes though in the end and then [TS]

00:47:51   there's the fourth season of coupling [TS]

00:47:52   with [TS]

00:47:52   so should never be as a force in this [TS]

00:47:55   podcast or know his identity matrix [TS]

00:47:58   sequels in public anyway my smile my [TS]

00:48:00   point is that is that I I really agree [TS]

00:48:03   with you that you have to balance the [TS]

00:48:05   list of like the ones that really when [TS]

00:48:07   they hit it were at the end I don't I if [TS]

00:48:09   you make one list you just have to [TS]

00:48:11   figure out how to balance those things [TS]

00:48:12   so for me I I've got I've got Buffy at [TS]

00:48:14   Number 17 years five of which i think [TS]

00:48:17   we're kind of peak value in the last two [TS]

00:48:19   that musical episode was great but [TS]

00:48:20   otherwise he actually not to spoil it [TS]

00:48:22   for everybody but the end of the fifth [TS]

00:48:24   year has a really nice endpoint that [TS]

00:48:27   actually would have been a good way to [TS]

00:48:28   end the show and then they went to upn [TS]

00:48:30   into two more years by my number to show [TS]

00:48:33   which for a long time was the number one [TS]

00:48:34   shows max headroom and that's to show [TS]

00:48:36   the last 12 episodes and what that's [TS]

00:48:38   easier you know I'm always right because [TS]

00:48:39   they burn out before they were like fire [TS]

00:48:41   board when p is wonderful having a great [TS]

00:48:45   year and an enema really falling apart [TS]

00:48:48   here one of my favorite shows of recent [TS]

00:48:49   years another great show with that is [TS]

00:48:51   like half of knowledge is a show [TS]

00:48:53   no not very appreciate you called the [TS]

00:48:56   middleman middlemen scramble and that [TS]

00:48:58   was like 10 episode yeah and it's but [TS]

00:49:00   it's fantastic and it's great and it's [TS]

00:49:02   this huge like sci-fi reference show [TS]

00:49:04   everything in there it like every [TS]

00:49:06   episode is a joke about some aspect of [TS]

00:49:08   science fiction every single one and now [TS]

00:49:10   Natalie Morales with right now on parks [TS]

00:49:13   and recreation which is also great yes [TS]

00:49:15   and she is yeah she I don't know why [TS]

00:49:17   she's not in more things he is extremely [TS]

00:49:19   important because she actually declared [TS]

00:49:21   that on Twitter the other day and she [TS]

00:49:22   wrote me back and she said thank you [TS]

00:49:23   cause I was like why is Natalie Morales [TS]

00:49:26   not in more stop universal her on Parks [TS]

00:49:29   and Rec universal after universal actor [TS]

00:49:31   responses please talk to my agent and [TS]

00:49:33   all producer what she was she was on [TS]

00:49:34   this huge kick for why follow her on [TS]

00:49:36   twitter for a while we had we had one or [TS]

00:49:37   two conversations but she was a huge [TS]

00:49:38   kick to try and get on Doctor Who when [TS]

00:49:40   they have yeah like and she was like [TS]

00:49:42   like hammering in on twitter because she [TS]

00:49:44   is a huge doctor who fan no idea she's [TS]

00:49:47   she's really gonna get the guy Matt [TS]

00:49:49   Besler yeah his dad Lee's he was perfect [TS]

00:49:51   for that role in any place he plays [TS]

00:49:52   villains a lot and and I Simon something [TS]

00:49:55   working on Ellen and a write-in might [TS]

00:49:56   wonder why wait [TS]

00:49:58   little man no because he's the perfect [TS]

00:50:01   clean-cut all-american boys out and like [TS]

00:50:03   you can't have him play the bad guy that [TS]

00:50:05   was a great show it was a traditional on [TS]

00:50:07   the wrong network with a Tracy family [TS]

00:50:09   and one of my favorite guest starring of [TS]

00:50:11   that show was Kevin Sorbo always the [TS]

00:50:14   oldest replaced the former middleman in [TS]

00:50:17   from the sixties like the sweet like so [TS]

00:50:19   it's like basically the idea of the [TS]

00:50:20   power he's a guy like you know the [TS]

00:50:22   middleman is the guy who liked deals [TS]

00:50:23   with all the like aliens and zombies and [TS]

00:50:26   werewolves and demons and all of that [TS]

00:50:28   he's the one guy and so there's always [TS]

00:50:30   one it's like passed down and and kevin [TS]

00:50:32   sorbo plays the older middleman from the [TS]

00:50:34   sixties who had been like cryogenically [TS]

00:50:36   frozen so that he could come back and [TS]

00:50:37   fight his own is like archenemy and of [TS]

00:50:40   course he plays like he's got like the [TS]

00:50:41   swinging bachelor pad and like this [TS]

00:50:43   great like Blazer he's wearing and he's [TS]

00:50:45   just he's great and its orbit very [TS]

00:50:48   self-aware cheeseball [TS]

00:50:50   okies green marbles and his care [TS]

00:50:51   Andromeda was one of my favorite guilty [TS]

00:50:53   pleasures growing like watching on [TS]

00:50:55   saturday so gene roddenberry's Andrew [TS]

00:50:57   yes I tried to want you know i watched a [TS]

00:50:59   lot of the first season that was [TS]

00:51:01   actually not too bad and the idea you [TS]

00:51:03   know that what was interesting about [TS]

00:51:04   that show I can't believe we've gotten [TS]

00:51:05   to this to the point where we're talking [TS]

00:51:07   about gene roddenberry's Andromeda here [TS]

00:51:08   but the interesting thing about that [TS]

00:51:09   show was if you view it as a coded kind [TS]

00:51:12   of armed response to star trek as an [TS]

00:51:15   anti star trek because the whole premise [TS]

00:51:17   is basically there's a guy he's a [TS]

00:51:19   starship captain he's the United [TS]

00:51:21   Federation of Planets he's going around [TS]

00:51:22   from planet to planet to stitch [TS]

00:51:24   everything together and they're happy [TS]

00:51:25   they're happy organization and then he [TS]

00:51:27   gets too close to a black hole goes [TS]

00:51:30   ahead and time like a thousand years and [TS]

00:51:32   when he reemerges all civilizations have [TS]

00:51:35   been destroyed and everybody's at war [TS]

00:51:37   and he's a man out of time and all of [TS]

00:51:39   the people he knew were dead but it's [TS]

00:51:41   not it's worse than that the whole [TS]

00:51:42   Federation has like a couple hours on a [TS]

00:51:44   pen and he's too he's kinda screwed and [TS]

00:51:47   because it is this great anti star trek [TS]

00:51:50   and then it got really cheesy I would [TS]

00:51:52   actually say I actually kind of dug his [TS]

00:51:55   other the other gene roddenberry show [TS]

00:51:57   after his I think posterous which is [TS]

00:51:58   Earth final conflict which is kind of a [TS]

00:52:00   cheesy show but if you view again with [TS]

00:52:03   syndicated comic and drama but if you'd [TS]

00:52:05   like the first season is it has won the [TS]

00:52:07   most interesting things because they [TS]

00:52:08   kind of kill off the main character then [TS]

00:52:09   but it's basically it takes place in [TS]

00:52:11   like modern [TS]

00:52:12   day and aliens basically it showed up on [TS]

00:52:14   earth and like ostensibly it's kind of [TS]

00:52:16   like that with the androids no no it's [TS]

00:52:18   kinda a little bit of a viene tu nerdy [TS]

00:52:21   lighting in there aliens here and [TS]

00:52:23   they're kind of like maintaining like oh [TS]

00:52:24   we're nice and happy and here to help [TS]

00:52:26   well but like they have an agenda but [TS]

00:52:28   it's better than course they have a [TS]

00:52:29   letter that gene roddenberry's earth [TS]

00:52:31   final haha anyways other planets [TS]

00:52:34   beginning of Earth I thought that was [TS]

00:52:35   asked on an interesting show and had [TS]

00:52:37   some interesting dynamics is any of the [TS]

00:52:39   short it was short on TV series is [TS]

00:52:40   confusing that with earth to the not [TS]

00:52:43   earth to earth to Wow [TS]

00:52:44   there we go well I can still smell it [TS]

00:52:46   from here holy cow you Steven Spielberg [TS]

00:52:49   ok so we're working fern is Right cast [TS]

00:52:51   will never be over [TS]

00:52:52   what will be but will use up all our [TS]

00:52:54   topics forever 21 [TS]

00:52:56   well yes well it's live with the oxygen [TS]

00:52:58   with this is you know you know in the [TS]

00:53:00   future there will be a pill that is [TS]

00:53:02   constant in concert your entire meal an [TS]

00:53:04   entire stake will appear in this tiny [TS]

00:53:06   people [TS]

00:53:06   well that's this podcast if they [TS]

00:53:07   concentrated it's like a month's worth [TS]

00:53:09   of podcast jam together into one [TS]

00:53:12   inedible pill i have my one by one dies [TS]

00:53:15   of your head [TS]

00:53:16   this is why we can't have more than two [TS]

00:53:19   members of the incomparable in the same [TS]

00:53:21   room with each others butts back at any [TS]

00:53:22   one time experiential is what being in a [TS]

00:53:24   room with us is like on a regular basis [TS]

00:53:26   for the report yet they would pick 12 [TS]

00:53:29   hours they will feature Scott making all [TS]

00:53:30   these sitting in the corner just going [TS]

00:53:31   to hate you [TS]

00:53:32   how come how come our level of using a [TS]

00:53:34   collection of 53 killed our readers [TS]

00:53:36   completely occupied students build you [TS]

00:53:38   mentioned earth to Steven Spielberg is [TS]

00:53:40   like the guy who can't make a good TV [TS]

00:53:42   show isn't he yeah he keep comes in he [TS]

00:53:44   brings his money and he doesnt sit well [TS]

00:53:46   yes I put his name on all remember see [TS]

00:53:48   there's real work presents taken dear [TS]

00:53:50   yeah that's that was like the 12-hour [TS]

00:53:52   sci-fi miniseries wearing nothing [TS]

00:53:53   happens [TS]

00:53:54   although that's my favorite part of it [TS]

00:53:55   was air right before Christmas and you [TS]

00:53:57   could very easily read the name of the [TS]

00:53:59   show and and miss read it is that Steven [TS]

00:54:01   Spielberg's presence were taken 10 [TS]

00:54:04   Hanukkah for you sir [TS]

00:54:05   no no present for you to be here he's [TS]

00:54:08   got a show coming out [TS]

00:54:09   well it's a turnover we should have too [TS]

00:54:12   much turnover which is getting ugly [TS]

00:54:13   treatment on fox which is there showing [TS]

00:54:15   that it's a musical their privacy yes [TS]

00:54:17   you are dinosaur alternative do I would [TS]

00:54:20   watch that and you know [TS]

00:54:21   dying or a cop Rock i maintain was well [TS]

00:54:23   ahead of its time it's it's yes but [TS]

00:54:26   thank you you get points for every only [TS]

00:54:28   I was awarding points to win [TS]

00:54:30   Bob Terranova to tote Terranova is is a [TS]

00:54:34   premiering in May and they're not [TS]

00:54:36   showing any more episodes until the fall [TS]

00:54:37   but it is this like you just love that [TS]

00:54:40   that's always a sign of good right like [TS]

00:54:41   it works out because nobody will believe [TS]

00:54:44   that's the thing is it worked for the [TS]

00:54:45   way they did the first episode it became [TS]

00:54:47   a phenomenon people like we're really [TS]

00:54:48   stoked and so when it came back [TS]

00:54:50   everybody already wanted to see it and [TS]

00:54:51   it works so they're going to try it [TS]

00:54:53   again it's like the you're right you'd [TS]

00:54:54   think they were kind of burning it off [TS]

00:54:55   but but they actually want to build a [TS]

00:54:58   buzz around it so i hope the pilots good [TS]

00:55:00   at the dinosaur is gonna be created for [TS]

00:55:02   the air [TS]

00:55:03   I think I mean my favorite story about [TS]

00:55:05   that ever it remains David Lindelof of [TS]

00:55:09   lost somebody asked him what it does it [TS]

00:55:12   freak you out with my number three show [TS]

00:55:13   i think that does it freak you out that [TS]

00:55:16   people are this was before lost had [TS]

00:55:18   started to air like it he was sort of [TS]

00:55:19   you know airing in the in this in the [TS]

00:55:21   fall and someone asked him does it freak [TS]

00:55:23   you out there are already petitions to [TS]

00:55:26   save your shirt for air and he said you [TS]

00:55:30   know I'd like to flip that on its head [TS]

00:55:32   like they should have petitions to kill [TS]

00:55:34   off shows that have been around too long [TS]

00:55:35   life if they did this is actual I don't [TS]

00:55:38   think I'm forbade him cool but he says [TS]

00:55:39   he said if there are a petition to kill [TS]

00:55:41   seventh heaven i would sign back i know [TS]

00:55:45   it's just funny that he gets this has [TS]

00:55:47   this kind of cloud and yet the show's [TS]

00:55:49   this shows that he has made have all [TS]

00:55:52   been like high-profile hot big budget [TS]

00:55:55   and I mean when you're Steven Spielberg [TS]

00:55:56   you put your name on a lot of things and [TS]

00:55:58   a lot of breakfast cereal well right rat [TS]

00:56:01   poison was really strapped poison [TS]

00:56:03   crunchy Lord's greatest threat was no [TS]

00:56:05   there was a really called young sherlock [TS]

00:56:06   holmes yes and many famous for its size [TS]

00:56:10   likely yes first always personally [TS]

00:56:13   reanimates is that the guy comes out the [TS]

00:56:15   stained glass and oh yeah in fact my [TS]

00:56:17   that movie trailer that crap out of [TS]

00:56:19   music and my little house mates thesis [TS]

00:56:21   advisor was the guy who is responsible [TS]

00:56:23   for do you know people i do everything I [TS]

00:56:25   do I'm two degrees away from everyone in [TS]

00:56:27   this room degrees accomplishment but i [TS]

00:56:29   don't know you but I know people who [TS]

00:56:30   know you thats that's terrifying steam [TS]

00:56:32   for everyone else to Steve [TS]

00:56:33   fri is a lovely lovely felt like to [TS]

00:56:37   dedicate this podcast to the memory of i [TS]

00:56:39   would like to know I never drips with [TS]

00:56:40   you I'd like to you know I like and [TS]

00:56:42   respect Stephen Fry enough that I hope [TS]

00:56:44   he never listens this next song that is [TS]

00:56:48   so anybody have occasional world where [TS]

00:56:50   one man that covers the subject of a [TS]

00:56:53   whenever podcast that seems like two out [TS]

00:56:56   but is only one time dilation and will [TS]

00:56:58   affect your claim to write you letters [TS]

00:56:59   friends i write this is gonna be a dial [TS]

00:57:02   tone a spoiler warning [TS]

00:57:04   ok that's all that's it nothing but a [TS]

00:57:07   dial tone in a spoiler horny be it [TS]

00:57:10   spoiler warnings on the way down [TS]

00:57:12   well dear listener you've squandered [TS]

00:57:14   another perfectly good our listeners [TS]

00:57:16   dear lord dear dear listener i like that [TS]

00:57:18   it implies that there's only one [TS]

00:57:20   yes dear are so listener as we know from [TS]

00:57:23   Scotland nobody not even his wife listen [TS]

00:57:25   to this podcast now well good looking my [TS]

00:57:27   way that's not Leslie no no [TS]

00:57:30   so dear listeners hot plural all both of [TS]

00:57:33   you count yourself lucky you weren't [TS]

00:57:35   here while we recorded that we apply on [TS]

00:57:38   this wall yes a dead fly flies didn't [TS]

00:57:41   even make it out this is what it's like [TS]

00:57:43   when you get us all together boy was [TS]

00:57:45   this a good idea until next time for Dan [TS]

00:57:48   more'n thanks to say something died [TS]

00:57:51   sorry you're welcome our guest is no [TS]

00:57:52   hope [TS]

00:57:53   Glenn fleischmann Stephen serenity [TS]

00:57:58   Caldwell's sports night forever for our [TS]

00:58:01   audience our audience Thank You audience [TS]

00:58:03   thank you have any pieces waving their [TS]

00:58:06   works great on apply SS until next time [TS]

00:58:09   this is jason snow thanking stephen fry [TS]

00:58:12   good night Stephen Fry wherever you are [TS]