0:00:00the incomparable podcast episode 80
0:00:10christmas 2010
0:00:15this is us this is a quick one yes it's
0:00:19a quick flash it's a flash pass
0:00:21yes the Rose recent podcasts we'll see
0:00:23you next year and then this can be like
0:00:24a surprise haha Christmas podcast
0:00:28podcast it's a Christmas miracle
0:00:31oh yeah Oh featuring Jim Nabors god no
0:00:37this podcast is over but that began this
0:00:40podcast has just begun hundred a hundred
0:00:46and then to see that's when you that's
0:00:48what you gotta admit that's when you cut
0:00:49in the doctor came in
0:00:54it's being comfortable podcast
0:00:57mobile
0:01:11it's close to midnight we're getting
0:01:16morning is ladies and gentlemen and you
0:01:18can tell and it's Christmas night as we
0:01:21record this i'm jason l and this is the
0:01:24uncomfortable podcast after dark after
0:01:27christmas a day and after most
0:01:30importantly after the doctor who
0:01:33christmas special the Christmas Carol
0:01:36which aired today in both England and
0:01:39the United States actually we could be
0:01:41talking about this legally and not
0:01:45because of bittorrent although I realize
0:01:47that many of us probably saw it on
0:01:49bittorrent I could say honestly want to
0:01:51make an admission here
0:01:52listen the first episode of the new
0:01:53Doctor Who that i have seen first by a
0:01:57legal means I I 2i to just watch the BBC
0:02:02america version of this with commercials
0:02:04and everything and if you got some of
0:02:06the commercials
0:02:07some of them were kind of interesting it
0:02:09slightly did choices it makes thousands
0:02:11of universes at once
0:02:13yeah it's hard to see infomercial are
0:02:15just infomercial that's right and miss
0:02:19Alice and commercial breaks are very
0:02:20strange in Doctor Who there they're
0:02:22wrong
0:02:23really yeah it was very strange to get
0:02:24every time we hit a cliffhanger right
0:02:26now what will happen and then to
0:02:28actually go to a commercial break very
0:02:31jarring is at least they don't edit
0:02:33anything out so it was like an hour and
0:02:3520 minutes with commercials but at least
0:02:36they keep it all intact which is good
0:02:39yes at one point that was the only way
0:02:42you could watch television is with
0:02:43commercials also me phones carry rotor
0:02:47dials that's madness and that is a
0:02:50plug-in all the lights that these days
0:02:51they don't believe you let me introduce
0:02:53my cast of characters by the way because
0:02:54i'm drinking beer and and i realized
0:02:56that i missed several important portions
0:02:58of the format are joining us via Skype
0:03:02from his iphone from somewhere in a wet
0:03:03upstate New York where he wrote where he
0:03:06celebrated the holiday with his family
0:03:08DN more'n I Jason hi there i'll make you
0:03:11say other things later using editing ha
0:03:14and joining me from I think los angeles
0:03:18greater los angeles where she is
0:03:19celebrated the holiday with her family
0:03:21rain Caldwell hi hello good to have
0:03:25here from Philadelphia where he
0:03:26celebrated his holiday alone
0:03:28it's got Mykelti oh excuse me while I
0:03:32continue to weep
0:03:34Oh through a confluence of it's sort of
0:03:36like a sitcom really the Scots the link
0:03:38but wait that means I'll be alone for
0:03:40the oh no because it was her and my
0:03:44mother telling me that said she called
0:03:46me and the first thing she said hello
0:03:48mom and she said thing she said was
0:03:50Christmas is cancelled which was in the
0:03:53doctor who christmas rap haha oh very
0:03:56good
0:03:57Wow and Glenn fleischmann from Seattle
0:03:59who did you celebrate this holiday at
0:04:01all or did you just get Chinese food
0:04:03I i celebrated in every possible way
0:04:06except involving a certain individual
0:04:09boring 2,010 years ago
0:04:12Santa Claus yes that's right huh it's
0:04:15because the party pressure is pretty
0:04:16much my Christianity and I Jeff also
0:04:18notice Jeff I i am and i should say that
0:04:21I'm I'm speaking to you from the
0:04:22sovereign state of Arizona where I spent
0:04:26the favorite place with my favorite
0:04:28place
0:04:29papers please idiots amusing scheduling
0:04:31this podcast I kept trying to explain it
0:04:33in terms of pacific time I'm actually on
0:04:35mountain time so I kept having to you
0:04:39know pretend to be a time zone i'm not
0:04:40actually in because Arizona refuses to
0:04:43daylight savings and it's a hotel right
0:04:45there you go anyway doctor who doctor
0:04:48who doctor whom I'm this is this is the
0:04:52what the 5th 6 christmas special they've
0:04:56done it once the particles in yet three
0:04:59cities isn't a quarter results series
0:05:03even after breakfast didn't have one
0:05:04because the United regenerated right and
0:05:06I was right about hates Christmas
0:05:09Christmas asian 2005 david tennant began
0:05:12so precise invasion seriously the mall
0:05:14today the next Doctor to doctor who are
0:05:17the Doctor Who proms if anybody saw any
0:05:19of them were actually pretty awesome
0:05:21yeah they were age of voyage of the
0:05:22Damned yeah that's right the runaway
0:05:24bride
0:05:24that's right that's the end for the end
0:05:26of time part 10 you're ready i forgot
0:05:29about this is not always like that
0:05:30figures especially because the six then
0:05:32yes this is the second set of questions
0:05:35wikipedia says well as we had the weird
0:05:37here where it was actually the end of
0:05:39this special yeah I was a leap year it's
0:05:41a lovely tradition though I think it's
0:05:44barely IM it's not Christmas without
0:05:46doctor who now for me I feel like oh
0:05:49yeah that's the reason for the season
0:05:51I spend spend Christmas with my cousins
0:05:54and their two daughters and they're all
0:05:55we finished you know escorted the rest
0:05:57of the family out with each other to
0:05:59doctor who touched you immediately into
0:06:02the living room fired up the DVR
0:06:04that's a beautiful thing it was a
0:06:07beautiful thing
0:06:08it's funny how Christmas season after
0:06:09being russell davies book writers tail
0:06:11it's clear that they're like they're
0:06:12sort of freak at the same time they want
0:06:14to do some really dark things such as as
0:06:18a spoiler warning off this is all
0:06:19spoiler ordinary alright yes yes was
0:06:21officially fire off the Christmas
0:06:22spoiler horn now the angry and very well
0:06:26so that you know this episode
0:06:29well 4003 people are going to be killed
0:06:32so you know you start off with that and
0:06:34so they clearly every year they worry
0:06:35about like we want to do something
0:06:36that's scary but a little pantomime and
0:06:40that's really interesting and different
0:06:42that you can do in this slightly
0:06:43slightly longer slightly different
0:06:44format not always longer but now it's
0:06:46longer used to be just a regular episode
0:06:48like so it's kind of fascinating to see
0:06:50how they told that line like all
0:06:52families we watching this in England and
0:06:54some other countries you get the step
0:06:55the really super dark freaky dr. Ivo was
0:06:58right
0:06:59although it's funny the the Christmas
0:07:00format i mean it's always wrestle Davis
0:07:02set this up and at and he said I want to
0:07:04I want to be brought on christmas day I
0:07:05want to be the whole family settling in
0:07:07they've had some drinks they've had some
0:07:08food now they're settling in to watch
0:07:10what i thought was interesting is that
0:07:12Steven Moffat this is his first
0:07:14Christmas special and I thought it was
0:07:17much more Christmassy having looked back
0:07:19and some of the other oh yeah especially
0:07:20and that's when i see you have a winter
0:07:22was really like an excuse like Donna
0:07:24yeah she's getting married on Christmas
0:07:26Eve sure that's right
0:07:28Christmas ish who doesn't yeah why not
0:07:31and then in the end of time yet
0:07:33it happens to be Christmas sure why not
0:07:36you know and so it didn't really have
0:07:38anything even the Christmas invasion
0:07:40I mean it had the robot Santa's at the
0:07:42beginning and that's right and I was
0:07:44like let's dispense with the Christmas
0:07:45now until the very end so there's was am
0:07:49so into the same had a bit
0:07:51Christmas yeah a little bit little bit
0:07:53yeah alien space Christmas we have one
0:07:55of his favorite doctor who
0:07:57so little queer monologues too he's got
0:07:59a whole bit about how he's 900 years old
0:08:01and blood what's really good my life I'm
0:08:03a Time Lord from Gallifrey Gallifrey in
0:08:05the constellation of service
0:08:07I'm 902 years old and I'm the one who's
0:08:08going to save us all got a problem with
0:08:10that no classic classic not just watch
0:08:14that this another two years old and I
0:08:16can kick and i can split and I can kick
0:08:18so so very Christmasy this one and
0:08:23obviously it's got that a bit of
0:08:25dickinson it but there's just so much
0:08:26you so much
0:08:28christmas stuff there's a sleigh that's
0:08:29being pulled by a shark that my which I
0:08:33don't
0:08:33that's how I celebrate my Christmas
0:08:35usually you guys did a tie in shacks did
0:08:37they literally jump over the Sharks
0:08:38episode was supposed to be a joke in
0:08:40there you know
0:08:41nice i wonder what they were kind of
0:08:42sticking it to people accusing them of
0:08:44jumping the shark or something but it
0:08:46seems very pointed in someone I thought
0:08:47it would be ridiculous when i heard i
0:08:48admit i actually heard that there was
0:08:50going to be a flying shark and I thought
0:08:51that was the most ridiculous thing I've
0:08:52ever heard and yet I thought the little
0:08:54fish around the light pole on the on the
0:08:56outside whitwer it was kind of fun and
0:08:59beautiful my kids thought it was really
0:09:01cool and then the shark appears and it's
0:09:03kind of frightening and and legitimately
0:09:06scary yeah yeah yeah I give I give all
0:09:09credit to Steven Moffat who once again
0:09:11delivered I think fantastic episode
0:09:13especially in terms of his dialogue
0:09:16writing which it fantastic i mean you
0:09:19know clearly he's been waiting for a
0:09:21chance in some ways to cut loose with
0:09:23his own you know doctor and I think he
0:09:25feels matt smith's you know the 11th
0:09:28doctor is very very hyperactive and very
0:09:31kinetic in a lot of his roles and I
0:09:33think you know moffatts writing style
0:09:35suits him perfectly
0:09:36I mean if I point my favorite line from
0:09:39this episode i think it would be
0:09:41breaking of the psychic paper but you're
0:09:45responsible adult
0:09:46I finally broke it so I too big the
0:09:49other thing that was great too is I have
0:09:51to say is i'm kinda with with them
0:09:53Rory and Amelia up being really
0:09:56relegated in this episode maybe sort of
0:09:58happy I was like Matt Smith is there
0:10:00toe-to-toe with michael gambon in some
0:10:02marvelous child in
0:10:04teen or adult actors playing gap on a
0:10:06different ages who are they were all
0:10:08terrific about all the different people
0:10:09playing that roller or barbless but
0:10:11gamble on particularly just I just love
0:10:13him to pieces and the screen was bigger
0:10:15with the two of them on it and then they
0:10:17cut to Rory Amelia and I was like I
0:10:19would be so sorry if they got sucked
0:10:22through a warm also place off this
0:10:24season is done about Amy Pond come on I
0:10:26you know she's I'm not that i don't
0:10:28think the actress has really proved
0:10:30herself she doesn't scream as much you
0:10:32know it's like I just don't feel she has
0:10:35the moxie
0:10:36I don't know I think I i like i like her
0:10:39and I like those scenes I mean it-it's
0:10:40hard to compete with michael gambon
0:10:42right oh you mean you can't although it
0:10:44i thought it was funny that we have this
0:10:46instance where while Amy and Rory are
0:10:50about to plunge to their death we have
0:10:52this whole series of events that from
0:10:53the doctor's perspective takes quite a
0:10:55bit of time and its really like he's got
0:10:57two new companions
0:10:59yeah enter the Christmas the onions and
0:11:01they do have all these adventures in the
0:11:02doctor Mary's Marilyn Monroe and pals
0:11:05around with albert einstein and Frank
0:11:07Sinatra and all these things happen and
0:11:10and so that's sort of your companion set
0:11:13for the episode and meanwhile i think
0:11:15actually kind of hilariously Amy and
0:11:17Rory are stuck in a Star Trek episode
0:11:19oh god yelling anyone the fridge at the
0:11:21uniforms were like dress that was also
0:11:23resting area there are many and they
0:11:25have the lens flares from the new star
0:11:26trek movie too little hole right doc now
0:11:30they're wearing their costumes because
0:11:32they were obviously having some fun in
0:11:33the honeymoon suite when I saw the
0:11:36preview for this episode I was kind of
0:11:38skeptical i was like we are they're
0:11:40doing another time reset where
0:11:41everybody's know like because that's the
0:11:43after she's in very first episode so you
0:11:46think that the outfit he's in at the
0:11:47very last step
0:11:48yeah exactly i'm not gonna say also
0:11:53another crashing spaceship for Christmas
0:11:55yes the second time we can't get enough
0:11:58of the crashing spaceships
0:11:59oh that was like Star Trek the you know
0:12:01Star Trek was at five with a William
0:12:03Shatner and don't don't mention started
0:12:06fine but i wanted a semester and
0:12:09screaming hot rockin wrong
0:12:11would you please just edit that out
0:12:12think what does a Time Lord need with a
0:12:15spaceship
0:12:16shocker e Scott are you a regular doctor
0:12:21who watch her i am in fact a regular
0:12:23doctor who watch her i must say that his
0:12:26continuing flower planting of the
0:12:28temporal prime directive is really well
0:12:32distressing very distressing to use got
0:12:34it is very distressing but the one thing
0:12:36I mean this is it's funny because you
0:12:38know obviously it in past Doctor Who's
0:12:40there's been this talk about how time
0:12:42can be changed and yet you in the Mafia
0:12:44Tara clearly time can be changed time
0:12:46you know can be rewritten as the line
0:12:48keeps going at you know and i remember i
0:12:51also remember that used to not be able
0:12:52to touch yourself from a different point
0:12:54in the timeline and yet possibly explode
0:12:56oh yeah but you've got the little bitch
0:12:58levitation effect or something at and
0:13:00and yet you've got that we're all right
0:13:01in season 1 episode which grows goes
0:13:04back to see her father when she touches
0:13:06herself as a child that's when the giant
0:13:08huh
0:13:08you know I meters come out night doctor
0:13:10who screwed up and get the pic in the
0:13:12Big Bang episode the doctor touches you
0:13:14know his future version of himself and
0:13:16in this episode michael gambon touches
0:13:17the child version of himself and it's
0:13:20not a big deal because we're just
0:13:21rewriting history you know I i actually
0:13:24don't mind but I think it's kind of
0:13:25funny that's like whatever let's just
0:13:26change the past we don't get well I i
0:13:28think i think that's kind of struggling
0:13:29to me the same thing that you get from
0:13:31the last episode of this season of
0:13:33doctor who which is that you know with
0:13:35Moffat taking over it's become less
0:13:36science fiction and more Fairy Tail
0:13:39right and you know a lot of this serves
0:13:41to function as a yeah we don't really
0:13:44need to worry about the water what is
0:13:45she dying from why is she only got seven
0:13:47days like nothing already to fix that
0:13:49you know is there why is a las vegas pro
0:13:52is a nice
0:13:53why is it Eric extension number is it a
0:13:55six digit number on the front of the but
0:13:58i i i i questioned at me
0:14:00knowledge is a six-digit number it says
0:14:04years and days underneath if you look at
0:14:07it very closely you go
0:14:09it's why we have this podcast is just
0:14:11like its I don't understand how it works
0:14:14though because so you take a loan out
0:14:15from the sky right and then so you say
0:14:17okay well here's my sister so you can
0:14:19hold her as collateral and you can
0:14:21freezer but then when you unfreeze her
0:14:22she's gonna die in seven days so if i
0:14:24pay what I no no no he was no matter
0:14:27what thats that in bed in the same sense
0:14:29as kind of like yeah we'll give you this
0:14:30one she's sick already
0:14:31I don't like what it was yeah that's the
0:14:33idea there is that they said we're gonna
0:14:35get the poor damaged goods as collateral
0:14:36because she's gonna die anyway and she's
0:14:38probably presumably volunteered because
0:14:40she knows she's gonna die anyway but
0:14:42then why would all of the the time
0:14:44frizzy pod things have countdowns on
0:14:46them
0:14:47it doesn't make any sense to me it
0:14:48doesn't make any sense alright I don't
0:14:51need to find areas of pairing else got
0:14:53it's the Somme it's the same having just
0:14:55watch the Christmas invasion to get it's
0:14:57the same reason why there's a button on
0:14:58the outside of the spaceship and the
0:15:01aliens the Christmas invasion that can
0:15:03be hit by an orange chemical weapons a
0:15:05tiny part of the outside of the
0:15:07spaceship so that the guy falls off and
0:15:09i just that just makes sense about your
0:15:11awesomeness and I don't even want to see
0:15:14why are the people on this planet
0:15:16frightened of little fish that can swim
0:15:19through fog modern p and that can be
0:15:21never seen have they never seen a bow
0:15:23tie before the penthouse sequence when
0:15:27he's growing up and he slowly adopting
0:15:29the doctors fashion statement is the
0:15:31most adorable thing just complete side
0:15:33note and he had an incredible growth
0:15:35spurt
0:15:36yes anyone still probably it is I don't
0:15:40know what's what I think it was
0:15:41beautiful this is
0:15:42ll go back to the matter on this with a
0:15:44big picture was I i found myself crying
0:15:46number of times this thing which i do it
0:15:48for christmas specials especially our
0:15:50tearjerkers but they're just I mean
0:15:52cambon he presented himself very
0:15:54effectively as somebody who just did not
0:15:56and he really the point where he says I
0:15:59just don't care
0:15:59I'm not like you and you know and he
0:16:01sells it like he's always going to die
0:16:03and it is completely abstract and he
0:16:04doesn't care i'm gonna die lonely cold
0:16:06and alone yet what else we all do that
0:16:08you know what what else do you have in
0:16:09your cabinet of whores instead what that
0:16:12he brings them is this sort of
0:16:13recognition himself embracing himself he
0:16:16gets the pullback from the events he
0:16:18gets to embrace this better self it's
0:16:19very lovely is not a damning line where
0:16:22he says you know we asked all you're
0:16:24gonna show me the future now he says no
0:16:26I i just did only possible but only
0:16:33helping I thought I thought that whole i
0:16:35agree i like I thought Gamboa's
0:16:36performance was pretty awesome
0:16:38I really liked as that twist became an
0:16:41apparent what he was doing good that the
0:16:44doctor was going back and basically
0:16:45rewriting his past because you know you
0:16:48start out and it's very clearly like
0:16:50this is you know we know it's called a
0:16:51christmas carol is a christmas carol
0:16:53call out right you know that starts with
0:16:55him being all grumpy and Scrooge like
0:16:56and denying the the poor family the
0:16:59chance to see their you know relative on
0:17:01christmas eve and you think I was gonna
0:17:02be predicted was going to turn them
0:17:03around can be happy but the way in which
0:17:05they did it was different and often
0:17:07novel enough to keep me guessing right
0:17:09because you know i love moment you
0:17:11realize he's going back in time and
0:17:12changing everything is kind and I love
0:17:14that it's a great cameras moment to
0:17:16where it shows up on the video recording
0:17:18just classic and bittersweet because he
0:17:22falls in love with a woman who he knows
0:17:23is going to die the next time he sees
0:17:25her know there's definitely some
0:17:27edginess to it that is the things that
0:17:30you know keep the parents entertained
0:17:32even though while the kids are waiting
0:17:34for the shark to come back and I i will
0:17:36say this to this is the first time that
0:17:37I watched an episode of Doctor Who that
0:17:39I'd never seen before with my kids and
0:17:41we're gonna both my kids watch it with
0:17:43us and my son was you know tuning in and
0:17:45out
0:17:46although he was fascinated by the shark
0:17:47my doctor my daughter was watching
0:17:49pretty much the whole thing and was a i
0:17:51think i think pretty into it so it was a
0:17:53it was kind of a cool family thing to be
0:17:55able to watch it on you know it's seven
0:17:57o'clock on on Christmas night when was
0:18:01avoiding he walks she had a great reason
0:18:03to watch that this evening
0:18:05yes you want everything he walks other
0:18:09stationary under siege and pasadena
0:18:13their helicopters overhead he walks and
0:18:15chip Carey who is that where he walks
0:18:18retired to pasadena Aaron think Jim
0:18:20Carrey how you felt so I mean I
0:18:25definitely everybody seems to be pretty
0:18:27positive about this episode I i
0:18:29definitely thought it was great
0:18:31what is called once other than my
0:18:33misgivings about the economic
0:18:35underpinnings of the squirrel no no you
0:18:37forget they're tying into the something
0:18:39something that made it official to cool
0:18:40them to freeze them down there remember
0:18:42the father of the oddly Frogley so with
0:18:45that takes away the fog less traumatic
0:18:47stress got that even got rolls the Frog
0:18:51Lake
0:18:51control the planet no he throws the
0:18:55clouds apparently controls the plan yes
0:18:56yes I'm really curious on the side note
0:19:00why everybody was wearing goggles other
0:19:02than it's just make it somewhat Stevens
0:19:04community foggy and Doctor Who and dr.
0:19:08Seuss not dr. Scott's they have those
0:19:11hats that were like so yes those are the
0:19:13places will attack your eyes they go for
0:19:15the eyes and my first thought right
0:19:18I you know so and I have to ask are
0:19:21there Zeppelin some answers no but there
0:19:23are seven like flying sharks hereafter
0:19:25wheels and Zeppelin like flying
0:19:27spaceships to falling Wales why not
0:19:31I didn't like the the kind of Peter Pan
0:19:34beeping sonic screwdriver in the shark
0:19:37though
0:19:37oh I didn't understand what I'm going
0:19:41sorry worried did he get it out don't
0:19:43know he said he was gonna just replace
0:19:45it anyway so make them give it to
0:19:48Michael Gambon right but what I forget
0:19:50which is happening and the sharp as the
0:19:52other half
0:19:53what's wonderful is I didn't catch the
0:19:54crocodile reference you're totally right
0:19:56your you are right i just excellent i
0:19:57just saw Peter Pan 360 a few days ago
0:20:00and my son was enthralled by the ticket
0:20:02aki crocodile and you're absolutely
0:20:04right that is that is the reference
0:20:05there so there
0:20:06this is loaded with references this
0:20:09let's discuss this with your points at
0:20:11which we don't which we don't
0:20:13that's a dog that's what i thought would
0:20:16win every time if we gave that point at
0:20:18structural analysis really the best
0:20:21Christmas after all we see and that's
0:20:23part of redemption is part of this
0:20:26podcast now encompass the theme
0:20:28well personally I was a great loss he
0:20:30also the promos for the next season oh
0:20:33yeah you know I haven't had a chance to
0:20:35watch them back to prove her like
0:20:37although I will
0:20:38there's a scene with mashup has a beard
0:20:41and longer hair be a highlight of
0:20:43prisoners change
0:20:44yeah yeah there's always there filming
0:20:47there filming in the in the US for the
0:20:49first time next season so
0:20:50oh yeah how was I yeah yeah we'll steps
0:20:53in that steps you're cool
0:20:54yeah second in utah they shot a lot of
0:20:57promise for BBC america are actually not
0:20:59while they were out there today we know
0:21:01how many episodes they're shooting in
0:21:02Utah because it seems like a long way
0:21:04to go in there really pumping it up it's
0:21:05a two-part episode they shot in utah for
0:21:07like three days i think and they shot
0:21:09and in the valley of the gods for a day
0:21:11and then they shot at Lake Powell where
0:21:13I've actually been been around Page
0:21:15Arizona just north of there across the
0:21:17Utah border and that's where a lot of
0:21:19those promos were where he sort of got a
0:21:21lake in the background and that's all
0:21:22for the season-opening to partner we're
0:21:25there again spoiler horn sorry but
0:21:27there's a it's a USA this is all sort of
0:21:29been released as promotional material
0:21:31it's set at least in part in the US and
0:21:33that's why they shot a bunch of stuff
0:21:36out and in Utah because you can't really
0:21:37replicate that scenery and I think BBC
0:21:40america actually funded some of that BBC
0:21:41america is really has really gotten
0:21:44behind doctor who with this I've noticed
0:21:46on TV critics got screener editions of
0:21:48this episode and iOS Android and San
0:21:51Francisco Chronicle had a piece on it
0:21:52two days ago
0:21:53well ready with the river you know if
0:21:55you're gonna broadcast in the u.s.
0:21:57obviously good you and CNN story about
0:22:00it said that they're committed to airing
0:22:01the show on the day same day with the UK
0:22:04with the noose is really now that's nice
0:22:06all I mean they'll cut down on I mean I
0:22:08you know arguably will cut down on the
0:22:11piracy from some people
0:22:12oh well I think about which is pretty
0:22:14big but I also i might i find it amusing
0:22:16that and this is sort of slightly
0:22:19tangential but also can't Torchwood is
0:22:21going to the US next season though not
0:22:23alone not in the BBC america vain i
0:22:26think because they made a deal with star
0:22:27yes and it will take all this act again
0:22:30probably not Torchwood is not visiting
0:22:32Torchwood is being shot in the bu living
0:22:35in the United States apparently flap 29
0:22:37years if everybody has died
0:22:40yeah i was very much it's an anchor show
0:22:42you can see why don't you have your
0:22:45dinner table to fit in just fucking yeah
0:22:48that's this is true so so they showed
0:22:50alex kingston the previews I i love her
0:22:53as an actress I guess this is my problem
0:22:55carrying Gilliam is she is a young and
0:22:56callow woman vs the mature strong
0:22:59confidence knowledgeable alex king
0:23:02static gasps don't you know man i'm
0:23:04gonna take that experience there's room
0:23:06for both men and I actually kind of like
0:23:09it when they're playing off each other
0:23:10you have both of them in a room together
0:23:12and it's all of a sudden very very
0:23:15interesting and very good i think they
0:23:16have
0:23:17I think all three of them especially
0:23:19when they have very good chemistry
0:23:20Rory's I'm what's attached to but I
0:23:22think Amy and the doctor certainly have
0:23:25very good rapport a while you remember
0:23:26the line elisabeth sladen straight line
0:23:28as Mary Jane Mary Jane out already
0:23:31sarah-jane in the episode with the a
0:23:34schoolroom you know the one I'm talking
0:23:36about what would scooby had school
0:23:38reunion thank you and she says you know
0:23:40the keto you keep the younger and they
0:23:42keep getting younger something like that
0:23:43you know the doctor about his companions
0:23:45after seeing Billy and it's like yeah
0:23:47they sort of do although I guess Karen
0:23:49Gillan's technically probably older than
0:23:50Billy was all times is the least this
0:23:52river song right and I mean that that's
0:23:53interesting about throwing her in the
0:23:55mix although i want all having seen the
0:23:57Big Bang most of it before they they
0:23:59aired that right before this episode on
0:24:01BBC america I i was struck by the rep
0:24:04the rapport between Karen Gillan but
0:24:08will the scene where they take his feds
0:24:10right i mean yeah they're sensing and
0:24:11then at the end when when you will
0:24:14that's right the beginning of that scene
0:24:15she just Amy and the centurian and
0:24:19they're like yeah he's with us that's
0:24:20okay but it's yeah that whole scene is
0:24:22really nice with NN a shootout the feds
0:24:24because it's got to be stopped i do a
0:24:29podcast that it's cool i guess i guess
0:24:32you could I love the explanation for the
0:24:34boat I also i can't remember the exact
0:24:37when they're not and he's I wear it and
0:24:39nobody care and eyewear and I don't care
0:24:41what people think or something like that
0:24:42and that's why it's cool and it's the
0:24:44best the best to that well I mean that's
0:24:46the definitely that's the definition of
0:24:48cool right
0:24:50you know not caring doing your own thing
0:24:52then we're all really cool
0:24:54uh yeah true because we had got a
0:25:02cricket sound here somewhere that I have
0:25:05a trick here Frank in Arizona his name's
0:25:08Jimmy haha that's another podcast so so
0:25:13did you guys have any other sort of a
0:25:16geeky Christmas things today that you
0:25:21would like to admit to in addition to
0:25:22what plan your entire day around
0:25:24watching Doctor Who entire he's down in
0:25:27a minute and watching and then talking
0:25:29about dr. besides the preponderance of
0:25:31electronic gadgets in our family's house
0:25:33i think we had at least for ipads and
0:25:35half-a-dozen iphones at least my host he
0:25:39might mind generous cousins who are host
0:25:41we all were wearing geeky t-shirts for
0:25:42the day so my cousin was wearing a
0:25:45t-shirt from thinkgeek with a guy with
0:25:47astronaut dragging his little toys
0:25:49spaceship away because he's a science
0:25:50geek and he said about the shuttle
0:25:52program being discontinued my uh one of
0:25:55my cousin's the daughters was wearing a
0:25:57exterminate Dalek shirt that I gave her
0:26:00for Christmas which was appropriate and
0:26:01then the other her sister was wearing a
0:26:03sunnyvale high school
0:26:05Oh insurance Sunnydale sorry Sunnydale
0:26:07high school
0:26:08nice which has fangs and fire coming out
0:26:11of it because sunnyvale high school is
0:26:12just that's just an actual high school
0:26:14for much more boring and i'm wearing a
0:26:16it's a trap shirt so we have is that
0:26:20from a movie it's a trap
0:26:22ya never know maybe the anybody's ever
0:26:24heard of its kind of accident i think
0:26:25access so punny keeps in this household
0:26:30for Christmas
0:26:31alright i was sadly the loan geek this
0:26:34year because my parents my mother who is
0:26:36my geek repartee she was often the
0:26:39kitchen doing work and my sister and my
0:26:42father are very unattended I was kind of
0:26:45sitting in the living room and watching
0:26:47star wars and then waiting for dr. food
0:26:50download zip it was it was it was very
0:26:53very sad Christmas for the geek
0:26:55household here but that's all right
0:26:57Scott how did you spend your spend your
0:27:00day I was also right so that I was I was
0:27:03I was alone geek because I was all alone
0:27:06but i did spend a good portion of my
0:27:07time I gave my mother a kindle for
0:27:09Christmas so I she apparently does not
0:27:12know how to use amazon that huh
0:27:13you have every reason every now you have
0:27:16to start spreading them what I was gonna
0:27:17ask scott is did you get her a new
0:27:19Wonder did you get her one from the
0:27:20collection the collection is a historic
0:27:24monument and cannot be tampered with
0:27:25each of the hundreds of kindle has no
0:27:28name and personality if they dragged the
0:27:30day they were born a stranger not only
0:27:32will tag actually the way Scott work for
0:27:34the readers as he buys them and only
0:27:36loads one book on them truth and again
0:27:39another and ultimate shell ratio
0:27:41okay you're not an ebooks reader exactly
0:27:44so I I helped my mother set up her
0:27:47candle which was was kept little trying
0:27:50but far away from because she had that
0:27:53the way it worked was that you went to
0:27:55the abdomen to amazon.com and looked at
0:27:57the book that you wanted on amazon and
0:28:00it would magically appear on your kindle
0:28:01without you doing anything so i had to
0:28:04explain to her it was a little you have
0:28:05to do a little more than that just
0:28:06looking at that's actually where that's
0:28:08how Google ebooks work so it actually is
0:28:10going to confuse people make sure you
0:28:12can work that way i should say you just
0:28:14look at it and it depends magically
0:28:16appear to serialize what if you just
0:28:18look at a book on your shelf does it
0:28:20appear on your kindle does that work
0:28:21Scott Academy think the confusion is
0:28:24that she's thinking not about you
0:28:27probably got her the kid with Wi-Fi and
0:28:29she's thinking of the kindle with Wi-Fi
0:28:30+ telepathy
0:28:32oh I'm cheap so i didn't spring for that
0:28:34one yeah it's very only costs seven
0:28:36thousand dollars school will be an old
0:28:38model next year anyway
0:28:40oh you have to hammer the antenna into
0:28:41the head that's painful part was a
0:28:43sidekick ii paper huh
0:28:47she wanted their little doctor foo what
0:28:49about You Glenn
0:28:51well I spend this Christmas I do every
0:28:53Christmas watching the tron 92 christmas
0:28:55special course over and over it Shay
0:29:00wow I haven't actually haven't watched
0:29:02that yet although i've been told by
0:29:04Steve lots are very own Steve let's that
0:29:07the the really right thing to do is to
0:29:08watch the star wars holiday special with
0:29:11the rifftrax track on top of it i've
0:29:15been told that to
0:29:16yes no I was in a house full of
0:29:18non-geeks so I was forced to suppress I
0:29:21had to sneak out the ipad while the
0:29:22children were occupied to watch Doctor
0:29:24Who ah you got in have got indoctrinate
0:29:28your kids into doctor who might my son
0:29:30he would he
0:29:32whenever he was passing by he'll be like
0:29:33God the blue box the blue box like my
0:29:36older son ben is a lovely lovely fellow
0:29:38and is currently obsessed by geography
0:29:40at the age of six you can tell you where
0:29:43I'd like adjoining states on the map and
0:29:45things like that but he is very
0:29:47sensitive lad and we try to show me your
0:29:51ago
0:29:51winnie the pooh and the part
0:29:53the bees made him cry so I think doctor
0:29:55who is a little further his future like
0:29:5820 to 30 years so I'm really going to
0:30:00thank you for this podcast at some point
0:30:02we're going to do that let you know to
0:30:04go to the fuel and a doctor who makes
0:30:06you cry Glenn so oh well I'm gonna go
0:30:09and race on sat weeks is me alex it runs
0:30:12in the family
0:30:13you're a weepy family and there's
0:30:14nothing wrong with me cry now you seen
0:30:17the ghost of Christmas future of your
0:30:19spirits and let's not be changed
0:30:23yeah I i showed my kids a doctor who
0:30:25episode of like a year ago and that
0:30:28night my son came out and said it the I
0:30:31can't even remember which monster it was
0:30:32but he's always like that monster is not
0:30:34going to come this is like no notice
0:30:36that it's not going to cover my wife
0:30:37glared at me he's like what I see
0:30:39see this is what happens when you show
0:30:41kids scary things in the capital there's
0:30:44supposed to be scared they like it
0:30:45you can't be a kid and not be afraid of
0:30:47something come on let's go to NW w go
0:30:50back to eventually gonna turn my memory
0:30:52gold collection never fade the the
0:30:54counter tenor is going to sing now know
0:30:56the face spiders by the way we're home
0:30:58yeah absolutely it's like oh no are
0:31:00there other face butters in this closet
0:31:01no no that gun to your head there in the
0:31:04mattress now you need to have fears in
0:31:07order to overcome them
0:31:09so apparently this episode was is
0:31:11another example uh I think the third
0:31:13example of Steven Moffat rifling through
0:31:15a story that he wrote when doctor who
0:31:18was off the air a short story of pros
0:31:20story about a Doctor Who story though
0:31:24previously he he used a story as the
0:31:28basis for blink where he wrote a story
0:31:30about Sally Sparrow who was a younger
0:31:32girl then but she was getting messages
0:31:34in her wallpaper from the doctor from
0:31:36the past telling her what to do in the
0:31:38future so that he could get his target
0:31:41bag and then there's another story he
0:31:43wrote called continuity errors
0:31:44apparently he's rifled through twice now
0:31:46because it was about a library with that
0:31:48all the books in the world and all of
0:31:50that and we know what happened there but
0:31:52the other point was that there was this
0:31:53librarian who was very angry and
0:31:56wouldn't give him this book that he
0:31:57needed to save a lot of people and he
0:31:58kept going back and changing things in
0:32:00her past in order to get her to be more
0:32:03likely to let him
0:32:05have the book and so that that is
0:32:07apparently the basis for this episode
0:32:09well well done because I thought it was
0:32:11really funny and interesting way to
0:32:13approach a christmas carol kind of thing
0:32:16but it is interesting but he is
0:32:17shameless in taking his old ideas from
0:32:21these things that you know don't really
0:32:23I don't really count nobody really read
0:32:25just the hardcore fans and saying that's
0:32:27a good idea i'm going to use that idea i
0:32:29got it's done it was think wrinkle in
0:32:31time the third the second sequel to
0:32:34wrinkle in time
0:32:35what is that quality swiftly tilting
0:32:37planet
0:32:38yes you remember that he goes Charles
0:32:40Charles what's-his-face goes back in
0:32:43time and changes things in prehistory in
0:32:47order to change the behavior of a
0:32:49dictator in the current day was gonna
0:32:50blow up the world a madman
0:32:52huh no i don't remember I'm have been
0:32:54reading that book little bit that's that
0:32:56didn't know that many waters many waters
0:32:58is going after that because that's also
0:33:00prehistory right there so yeah there's
0:33:02the the second wrinkle in time when
0:33:04after a long time is what's wrong with
0:33:06the midi-chlorians i'm sorry the
0:33:08mitochondria I've got your party that's
0:33:10very similar wow audiences every one of
0:33:13our podcast have star wars in it but yes
0:33:15we're going to actually obligated but
0:33:17this this is the episode with star trek
0:33:18in it
0:33:19this is dr. this ass you talk about the
0:33:21writers tail unit Russell Davis really
0:33:23wanted to do first you wanted to do a
0:33:24crossover with enterprise which is that
0:33:27would have free community and how
0:33:29completely insane with deadlines he was
0:33:31because he'd see what kind of plot of
0:33:33the whole thing out before and then also
0:33:35harry potter crossover y JK Rowling
0:33:37appears yourself and the doctor to be
0:33:39involved was like oh I can she act like
0:33:42I don't know she's a writer should
0:33:43probably define like Brussels get some
0:33:45sleep please yes yes and you
0:33:48you know it's funny I can kind of see
0:33:49what he's going forward that like you
0:33:51know especially in terms of trying to
0:33:52box arrives the series which is so
0:33:53pretty eccentric but also the idea that
0:33:56like I don't know kinda reminds me of
0:33:57the Stephen King darktower idea like all
0:33:59the stories are connected in some way
0:34:01right so he also then talked about doing
0:34:04a which I think ended up being planted
0:34:06the dead one of the specials he wanted
0:34:07to do a star trek episode basically
0:34:09where there would be a spaceship that
0:34:11would be very Star Trek like and and he
0:34:14never got around to it but it's kind of
0:34:16funny that the here Steven Moffat who is
0:34:18I believe in a valid Star Trek fan and
0:34:20he doesn't talk about that a lot because
0:34:21he's the Doctor Who showrunner but i
0:34:23believe he was a huge Star Trek fan and
0:34:25he's stuck in all these very funny
0:34:27references it's a galaxy-class ship
0:34:29that's gonna crash and it's got the star
0:34:32trek JJ Abrams lens flares on the bridge
0:34:34and it's got the the guy with the funny
0:34:36eyepiece who's the navigator who is the
0:34:38your Geordi LaForge kinda guess it's
0:34:41just you know I and it is really
0:34:43important
0:34:44it's just funny and when the flavor yeah
0:34:47yeah it's just i mean i'm reading the
0:34:49comic book just since this is the
0:34:51incomparable I can do this
0:34:53the comic-book invincible which is I a
0:34:56pretty good superhero comic book by
0:34:57Robert Kirkman the guy does the walking
0:34:59dead and they've got this recurring set
0:35:01of characters in a very serious
0:35:03storyline where people are getting kind
0:35:04of torn to bits and killed and horribly
0:35:07wounded and it's the spaceship that is
0:35:09just a joke of the enterprise from Star
0:35:12Trek The Next Generation and there's a
0:35:13bald captain and a and a robot crewmen
0:35:16and they're all just kind of slightly
0:35:18off-kilter from Star Trek but it's very
0:35:20obvious that that's the reference and I
0:35:22don't know I i I'm amused by that that
0:35:25is still a reference that can be made
0:35:27all this time later that it's really got
0:35:29you know enough that they're like yeah
0:35:31let's make that reference with everybody
0:35:32knows star trek we can do that and star
0:35:35trek is far superior to start wars so it
0:35:38makes our that's where was she supposed
0:35:41to have a quick podcasts we make
0:35:44predictions for next christmas is next
0:35:47Christmas is episode gosh board
0:35:49what would you guess Glenn what would
0:35:51you like to see me in the colin as the
0:35:54guest star that's what i did with
0:35:56messages using out
0:35:57I don't care what he does probably he's
0:36:00Shakespeare or Shakespeare's
0:36:02great-grandchild
0:36:03I don't care what it is but in mcallen
0:36:04or maybe old magnetic substances with
0:36:06his mind that would also be okay clearly
0:36:08patrick stewart Treasury Stewart yell
0:36:11yeah you have an account you have to
0:36:14have Patrick story with Natalie other
0:36:16sheets again we are actually making the
0:36:20x-men but because they're sure
0:36:22by the way did you notice the BBC
0:36:23previews for next year
0:36:25christopher eccleston has his own series
0:36:26dick attendant has his own series very
0:36:29gritty looking difficult thing
0:36:31as in which they're threatening people
0:36:32are being threatened in the preview so
0:36:34will will certainly make of three
0:36:36doctors show you know father very gritty
0:36:39characters against matt smith at the end
0:36:41of the year i would like to see the
0:36:42debut first Doctor Who Hanukkah episode
0:36:46haha eight crazy nights now way they use
0:36:50that title for something that would be
0:36:52that would be interesting actually I i
0:36:55think that we didn't have any series you
0:36:57did a miniseries kind of like children
0:36:58reverse for Torchwood except you did for
0:37:00doctor who and you did it one night of
0:37:02Hanukkah line minute episodes over the
0:37:06country look do a job yet
0:37:08network executives never know the eight
0:37:10episodes we quite as good as you got hit
0:37:14on the title it would be called doctor
0:37:16who and the dreidel of doom
0:37:19oh that's sort of the final episode
0:37:22that's really big spinning dreidel space
0:37:24from Daleks much comics not really don't
0:37:30need all right don't you no matter how
0:37:32about playing mr. i dono pls pls leave
0:37:36the chinese restaurant now look I'm just
0:37:41picturing Daleks with them now because
0:37:43on their head all crying oh wow two sets
0:37:49so wrong
0:37:51that's so wrong Merry Christmas
0:37:54everybody
0:37:56oh that's right Hanukkah Happy Hanukkah
0:38:00falls over Christmas next year dan I
0:38:03didn't know that because the schism in
0:38:05the space-time continuum and that is the
0:38:07point and there you have it is right
0:38:11wow this is interesting also I this is
0:38:15the first Doctor Who in i think since
0:38:19the first doctor who christmas special
0:38:21that has had regular companions in it
0:38:25Oh as a excellent point strip which
0:38:28happens I wasn't a companion at that
0:38:29point the russell davis series they
0:38:31tended other than the two years with
0:38:33Rose they tended to cycle through new
0:38:35companions every season and you know who
0:38:38did the companions from last season are
0:38:40coming back for next season so it's a
0:38:42little stability at least I mean until
0:38:44presumably they'll completely wreck by
0:38:46the time this season is over but right
0:38:49now they got them intact and it was kind
0:38:51of nice to see them even though I I to
0:38:54glens pointed with I kind of appreciated
0:38:55that they were on the side and it wasn't
0:38:57really about them they were just sort of
0:38:58present but not operate they were the
0:39:00people they were important and 900 years
0:39:02have you ever met anyone who wasn't
0:39:04important
0:39:04that's true i mean they were worried
0:39:06about you want me the diameter of the
0:39:09doctor doesn't get involved right you
0:39:11know you he only comes to save them
0:39:13really well i guess i actually was a
0:39:16little disappointed when he said I you
0:39:18know I can't walk on there was a quick
0:39:19throw a line I can't lock onto the ship
0:39:21because what i wanted to say was I
0:39:23couldn't get all of them off in time
0:39:25that's what i want to have to say
0:39:27because he you know I would like to just
0:39:29say yes well of course I could save
0:39:30those two I could just move my TARDIS up
0:39:32there and get them but there are 4,000
0:39:33people on that ship and I can't get them
0:39:35all off and i'm here to save all of them
0:39:37not not two of them and he didn't do
0:39:41that
0:39:41he just said I can't walk on there's
0:39:43nothing to be Jason Jason that's what he
0:39:44meant
0:39:45oh sure in my fantasy action later I
0:39:47will yes where I tell the stories of of
0:39:51the doctor and sardick and the girl who
0:39:54was frozen and thought out every year
0:39:56their adventures on Christmas Eve that's
0:39:5937 others so that in there I'm workin on
0:40:02fanfiction of the 4,000 people that were
0:40:04on the scholarship
0:40:06thank you very talented singers sing
0:40:09extract no actually not talented fingers
0:40:12because if they were as good a singer as
0:40:13the girl who was frozen
0:40:15they were going to shift they wouldn't
0:40:16hear the break the better singing for
0:40:19their lives
0:40:20come on the fact she have destroyed
0:40:21their starship what I don't matter their
0:40:24feet there was maybe said she got a nice
0:40:29touch though I will say that was
0:40:32Carmine's got that terrible episode of
0:40:34Star Trek where they have to feed the
0:40:35big limb like Remora thing that sucks on
0:40:38the enterprise
0:40:39oh that was great but it's our the milk
0:40:41love that one terrible default alchemist
0:40:43hyper involved a hyper deck thingamabob
0:40:49you know
0:40:49ya see ya / star wars holiday special
0:40:54the hollow shed our three equals really
0:40:57helping wrong with celebrating some life
0:40:59day
0:40:59okay yeah yeah is this another one of
0:41:01those episodes of the house shed where
0:41:03people become real again okay
0:41:07don't make me get siracusa here
0:41:08somewhere else huh i'm sure you could
0:41:11pull them out of iraq now we're good
0:41:13we're beating up beating up on Dan now
0:41:15while he can't defend himself because
0:41:16he's a lot i can deflect here is going
0:41:20on this podcast what know this is all
0:41:22just a recording of campus is outrageous
0:41:24so this is Robo dad for Dan so any other
0:41:27final one final thoughts of how about
0:41:29that for a transition that we might be
0:41:31wrapped canvas that is emergency podcast
0:41:34up any other final thoughts about this
0:41:36the Christmas episode that you'd like to
0:41:37share
0:41:38I really kinda hoped that a that the
0:41:41whole changing somebody's past then gets
0:41:44really occurred in series six because i
0:41:47would like to see it go horribly wrong
0:41:50maybe that's just morbid but I mean that
0:41:52would be because we didn't really get a
0:41:53chance to play with it in this episode
0:41:55because it was very kind of upbeat but
0:41:57he revisited later on what he tries to
0:41:59do it again to fix something and then it
0:42:00horribly horribly backfires it could be
0:42:02well I think just plays into the whole
0:42:04thread of what he learned last season in
0:42:06that you know at a certain point his
0:42:09worst enemy is himself is your time lord
0:42:12victorious again a little bit not quite
0:42:13but it could go that direction
0:42:15yeah actually run homer simpson changing
0:42:19the past no take that butterfly star who
0:42:24and Homer Simpson have a lot of
0:42:26similarities exuberant hey did you
0:42:29notice that i'm at one point Matt Smith
0:42:32is basically wearing Tom Baker scarf
0:42:35yes I was wondering the prospects yeah I
0:42:38had to stop that and I was wait a second
0:42:41that's i I just I mean it's for probably
0:42:45in the wardrobe somewhere in the TARDIS
0:42:46right as sure as affecting as the whole
0:42:49episode was i love the fact that Steven
0:42:51Moffat being a very skilled comedy
0:42:53writer had no problem
0:42:54sliding in just a huge amount of jokes
0:42:58amid the more serious kind of material i
0:43:01thought that was a really nice mixture
0:43:03because he kept it a little bit lighter
0:43:04while not you know making it ridiculous
0:43:07this was one of these genuine like
0:43:08funniest I think episodes in the last
0:43:12several seasons even perhaps just in the
0:43:14terms of I feel like even just in terms
0:43:16of the writing and that equips and stuff
0:43:18like that workers at some point I felt
0:43:19like well that's funny but it's not
0:43:21necessarily laugh-out-loud funny i don't
0:43:22know i found myself laughing a lot more
0:43:24this episode also would like to thank
0:43:25you David also know i was saying it's
0:43:28like the larger worry you just let Matt
0:43:30Smith talked and the more Matt Smith
0:43:32talks the funnier the jet in general the
0:43:34episode of this is the deal with like
0:43:37some of the episodes because Martin so
0:43:39extensively four seasons one through
0:43:41four you can just picture david tennant
0:43:43doing the same lines this is one you
0:43:44can't see David Tennant doing this is
0:43:46matt smith doctor who and fully is like
0:43:48the larger that's true i was thinking
0:43:50that david tennant at the end of the
0:43:52david tennant doctor who he was kind of
0:43:54crazy but bad crazy and Matt Smith's
0:43:58doctor who is crazy but you know good
0:44:00crazy like this one moment in his
0:44:02circles crazy exactly i like when he was
0:44:06like oh the knobby thing has drawn me
0:44:08here and it has my name written all over
0:44:09it well not really but if you give me a
0:44:11crayon and sometime it will how the the
0:44:15it's interesting you know Steven Moffat
0:44:17ride for a while as as revealed in the
0:44:19writers tail i think actually to get
0:44:21David Tennant to come back and I believe
0:44:23several of the episodes for the four
0:44:25last season were originally written with
0:44:27the idea that it might be David Tennant
0:44:29by and it and you did get the sense i
0:44:31think especially early on that that this
0:44:33could be David Tennant and it's not but
0:44:35if you could see how they could play it
0:44:36that way i'm not i do think you're right
0:44:38that this is a full-fledged this is an
0:44:40episode written not just knowing that
0:44:42it's matt smith but having seen a year
0:44:45of matt smith and knowing what he's good
0:44:46at which is actually gets me excited for
0:44:49next year that they've got your under
0:44:50their belt if you point towards I think
0:44:52the two episodes and these from the
0:44:53first season of the larger as everyone
0:44:55has said which I agree and also the
0:44:57eleventh hour which I think was the
0:44:58other that the whole scene with the food
0:45:00at the beginning that one is a great
0:45:02example of who the 11th doctor is which
0:45:04is just kind of kind of crazy Scott said
0:45:07good crazy good yet these are he's our
0:45:10concentration that isn't fish sticks and
0:45:12putting that's right this time putting
0:45:15very good Americanizing by the way Scott
0:45:18fish fingers and custard which doesnt we
0:45:22we won the Revolutionary War and let's
0:45:26not look at what they say he's got not
0:45:29next season didn't don't to the victors
0:45:31go new jersey
0:45:33oh I can see the new jersey from my
0:45:37house
0:45:39thanks Sarah Palin highway version to
0:45:42the wrong territory
0:45:43what spot gases over i think maybe it is
0:45:47well so thank you all for coming out on
0:45:50this out into the cold world of the
0:45:52podcast I don't really understand what
0:45:54that means
0:45:55thank you for being here on this late
0:45:57christmas night and and I think we're
0:46:02all looking forward to Doctor Who it's
0:46:04nice to get a little flavor of the of
0:46:06the doctor who after a long break and
0:46:07and then now we get to wait another
0:46:09another three months
0:46:11thanks a lot bbc3 whole mind real
0:46:16versatile seven episodes and my little
0:46:19everyone's for the next six episodes
0:46:22like this we love it
0:46:24oh haha right now the top one of the few
0:46:27shows i look forward to so I'm happy to
0:46:29not happy to wait but i'll wait what am
0:46:32I gonna do what else am I going to watch
0:46:34primeval I don't think so oh yeah now
0:46:38it's not it's not okay so i'm now going
0:46:42to say thank you to everybody and this
0:46:44is the part of the show where I do that
0:46:46so damn more into thank you for being
0:46:48here
0:46:48happy Christmas to all and to all a good
0:46:50night that's right i try to come up with
0:46:56that I'd relief idly and of the Holy
0:46:59yippee-ki-yay my friend ran called well
0:47:04thank you for for being here for the
0:47:06pain you thank you i'm going to go eat
0:47:09now if we haven't even met her yet
0:47:13what's the worst Christmas ever
0:47:16yeah it's been a very interesting
0:47:18christmas bells get that's good
0:47:21Scott McNulty hey I'm glad we could
0:47:25bring provide some companionship for you
0:47:27today
0:47:28god bless us everyone can you help me
0:47:30with my kindle my kindle is back
0:47:32can you help me fix it I look at the
0:47:34books and they don't download haha this
0:47:38is my life
0:47:39ok we'll talk about that later we'll
0:47:40talk about you can help me out offline
0:47:42from or send me something from the
0:47:43collection Glenn fleischmann thank you
0:47:46for suggesting that we do this and you
0:47:48get all the blame if people say what the
0:47:50heck was that podcast that was terrible
0:47:52Zuzu's petals you know you know that's a
0:47:57way that's how we ended the last podcast
0:47:59you don't get to do that i'm sorry it's
0:48:01all about Zeppelin's we'll just keep
0:48:04throughout the referencing maybe one are
0:48:06sick
0:48:06yeah I I had a guy ask guys do i need to
0:48:10have listened to the previous episodes
0:48:12of the podcast in order first
0:48:14yes I said yes you said yes and
0:48:17something scripts consult the
0:48:19transcripts
0:48:20centos-5 gallery so effortlessly detail
0:48:22land and great NOS are going to build a
0:48:24database that includes everything we've
0:48:27referenced in every single episode and
0:48:28you'll be able to create your own
0:48:30podcast only accessible and we're using
0:48:33big words and Dan agreeing or talking
0:48:38about return of the jedi and you just
0:48:40make your own podcast at that that's
0:48:41entirely cromulent of you that is our
0:48:43that as our christmas gift to all of you
0:48:45haha i thought that's what this podcast
0:48:47was and to all a good night good night
0:48:51everyone
0:48:52don't leave me alone
0:49:02this has been the in comfortable podcast
0:49:06there's a decidedly incomparable dot-com
0:49:24Glenn pointed out quite rightly that one
0:49:27of the questions that must be asked is
0:49:29uh is what are you drinking
0:49:32essentially if you'll indulge me for a
0:49:35second while I do this let's see how
0:49:36this works on the podcast
0:49:39ah oh is that it sound effects try and
0:49:44make it really helped will hold on our
0:49:46sponsor today is a anything there no
0:49:51it's not really do ya now i don't know
0:49:53but i heard that that was impressive
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0:49:58I feel like I'm on a 1940's radio play
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