The Incomparable

◼   ► the incontrovertible numbers we January [TS]

◼   ► 2n474 welcome back everybody to be [TS]

◼   ► uncomfortable on your host Jason L we so [TS]

◼   ► bad man won the tournament that we ran [TS]

◼   ► here that was stupid and we wanted to [TS]

◼   ► have an amazing episode about that man [TS]

◼   ► and we we are doing one tonight we are [TS]

◼   ► we are embarking on a journey through [TS]

◼   ► films starting the Batman and we're [TS]

◼   ► starting with the the tim burton [TS]

◼   ► directed Batman films 1989 Batman and [TS]

◼   ► 1992 is batman returns to discuss these [TS]

◼   ► films with me i have a fine panel of [TS]

◼   ► people who watch the movies and that [TS]

◼   ► will talk about it because that's what [TS]

◼   ► the show is will begin by introducing [TS]

◼   ► them [TS]

◼   ► Shannon sudderth is here hi Shannon [TS]

◼   ► welcome back 11 keys [TS]

◼   ► David jail or wholly super your [TS]

◼   ► spectacular Batman and the no new auntie [TS]

◼   ► Ashley hello I'm multi-chip sudderth I'm [TS]

◼   ► sorry i I'm I didn't prepare I've [TS]

◼   ► watched the ben affleck daredevil and [TS]

◼   ► Tony sindelar hello nerds and for Batman [TS]

◼   ► is Mac Batman belongs to all of us we [TS]

◼   ► are all been no let's not get carried [TS]

◼   ► away [TS]

◼   ► it's not how DC Comics sees it i don't [TS]

◼   ► think that all right so here's the story [TS]

◼   ► with that man they did the the adam west [TS]

◼   ► batman in the sixties that was fun then [TS]

◼   ► the property cuddle just lay there for a [TS]

◼   ► while Superman they start making [TS]

◼   ► Superman films in the late seventies [TS]

◼   ► those are successful and they decided we [TS]

◼   ► should go back into batman again they [TS]

◼   ► took until nineteen eighty-nine when [TS]

◼   ► finally Batman hit the big screen again [TS]

◼   ► starring michael keaton as Bruce Wayne [TS]

◼   ► and Batman Jack Nicholson as the Joker [TS]

◼   ► directed by tim burton this was for [TS]

◼   ► those who did not live through it i can [TS]

◼   ► just say it was a big deal like this was [TS]

◼   ► my memory is that this was the first [TS]

◼   ► like market movie as marketing campaign [TS]

◼   ► that I remember like literally the [TS]

◼   ► Batman logo [TS]

◼   ► was omnipresent you could not everything [TS]

◼   ► had Batman logos on it your milk at a [TS]

◼   ► batman logo on it [TS]

◼   ► everything had Batman logos it was it [TS]

◼   ► was for those who didn't live through it [TS]

◼   ► it was a huge marketing push this was my [TS]

◼   ► want to say the end of my freshman year [TS]

◼   ► in college and yeah so it was a big deal [TS]

◼   ► and I think it was a man an extremely [TS]

◼   ► successful film as well with a different [TS]

◼   ► you know a different kind of take that [TS]

◼   ► was very influential that led to like [TS]

◼   ► the the a lot of the themes of it get [TS]

◼   ► kind of replayed in batman the animated [TS]

◼   ► series it's got an interesting kind of [TS]

◼   ► art deco-style uh so anyway let's start [TS]

◼   ► by discussing tim burton's batman is [TS]

◼   ► everybody here [TS]

◼   ► did you did you all see Batman when it [TS]

◼   ► came out or did you watch it later [TS]

◼   ► yeah I saw it when it came out but I was [TS]

◼   ► a really big comics nerd at the time so [TS]

◼   ► I also went through the pre-movie pre [TS]

◼   ► publicity [TS]

◼   ► oh my god this is going to suck they [TS]

◼   ► can't Michael Keane I remember that his [TS]

◼   ► chin isn't strong enough so that it's [TS]

◼   ► it's remarkable that this movie was this [TS]

◼   ► successful as it wasn't i think a lot of [TS]

◼   ► it had to do with the overdrive [TS]

◼   ► marketing that Warner's did to try to [TS]

◼   ► convince people that know it wasn't [TS]

◼   ► going to suck you know I I was the one [TS]

◼   ► in my my group in high school because [TS]

◼   ► this came out right at the tail end of [TS]

◼   ► my senior year of high school I was the [TS]

◼   ► one who when they announced the casting [TS]

◼   ► was like okay it's gonna be great and [TS]

◼   ► everyone else is like no no come on come [TS]

◼   ► on Michael Keaton these Betelgeuse is [TS]

◼   ► mr. mom and like they're just you watch [TS]

◼   ► and sure enough he is I mean he's still [TS]

◼   ► my favorite movie Batman I saw it [TS]

◼   ► opening night in a crowded theater that [TS]

◼   ► was completely full and it was playing [TS]

◼   ► into auditoriums in that multi plaque [TS]

◼   ► and I know that because there was [TS]

◼   ► something wrong with their print and we [TS]

◼   ► had to sit there in that crowded theater [TS]

◼   ► for 30 minutes past the show time until [TS]

◼   ► it finally started and I still loved [TS]

◼   ► every second of it [TS]

◼   ► my friends and I spent months doing jack [TS]

◼   ► nicholson's little card thing remove the [TS]

◼   ► card around the deck everything in the [TS]

◼   ► movie was cool too [TS]

◼   ► and it's it's one of the few that ever [TS]

◼   ► so twice in the theater in the same [TS]

◼   ► weekend my college roommates and I we [TS]

◼   ► were not cool people we memorized the [TS]

◼   ► lyrics to bat dance that's how could [TS]

◼   ► that mean to you do we wait for this [TS]

◼   ► movie and I married him anyway Tony ya [TS]

◼   ► too young to be an honorary or just old [TS]

◼   ► enough to see a bad man i was definitely [TS]

◼   ► too young for part perhaps for both of [TS]

◼   ► these movies but definitely for this one [TS]

◼   ► I think i was aware as a spamming I was [TS]

◼   ► a child I i was aware of the like the [TS]

◼   ► marketing push of it but I i think the [TS]

◼   ► first time I saw it was you know on a [TS]

◼   ► VHS tape it's good you're drinking your [TS]

◼   ► milk it's good and yeah because I think [TS]

◼   ► you're bad milk [TS]

◼   ► yeah and speaking of bad milk i should [TS]

◼   ► say the Batman cereal that came out [TS]

◼   ► needing nine was really good [TS]

◼   ► Batman Returns cereal not as good funny [TS]

◼   ► men but we'll get there we'll get there [TS]

◼   ► tim burton personally make both of those [TS]

◼   ► so all right let's talk about Batman [TS]

◼   ► then we'll look we'll talk about 1989's [TS]

◼   ► Batman now I mentioned I the style here [TS]

◼   ► is it's fun it is this weird art deco [TS]

◼   ► kind of style we we've seen this in a [TS]

◼   ► few movies up [TS]

◼   ► it's definitely I you know the i always [TS]

◼   ► think of Max Headroom is being a little [TS]

◼   ► bit like that although that's a little [TS]

◼   ► more techy of course the great Super [TS]

◼   ► Mario Brothers it's anyway but it but it [TS]

◼   ► is a it's kind of a fun mix of things [TS]

◼   ► that look old along with some things [TS]

◼   ► that look uh look modern and his first [TS]

◼   ► was the designer I think won the Oscar [TS]

◼   ► for art direction it would visit it [TS]

◼   ► looks really beautiful and from the very [TS]

◼   ► very start where we see the this stuff [TS]

◼   ► we see a family with it with a parents [TS]

◼   ► in and the young kid and it's very [TS]

◼   ► clearly playing on the origin of Batman [TS]

◼   ► it's kind of a fake-out and it's a fake [TS]

◼   ► ad because it's not it's actually the [TS]

◼   ► present and they're saved by Batman but [TS]

◼   ► but they they can't get a cab so they [TS]

◼   ► decided to cut through a dark dark le [TS]

◼   ► dangerous Ally because they're dumb [TS]

◼   ► yeah and that meant save them when i [TS]

◼   ► first saw this movie I it was a crowded [TS]

◼   ► house there were loads of people there [TS]

◼   ► who were not come [TS]

◼   ► book fans they were there because of the [TS]

◼   ► marketing and all the stuff that opening [TS]

◼   ► scene when you see the but i think one [TS]

◼   ► of the descriptions of Gotham City is as [TS]

◼   ► long as the hell burst from the ground [TS]

◼   ► and kept on going [TS]

◼   ► when you see that opening claustrophobic [TS]

◼   ► shot shot there were people in the [TS]

◼   ► audience who were clearly not regular [TS]

◼   ► Batman fans who just audibly gasps oh my [TS]

◼   ► god this is horrific [TS]

◼   ► you know right the right then and there [TS]

◼   ► that art direction is just coming at you [TS]

◼   ► and it's not [TS]

◼   ► Dayglow sixties pop art that's for sure [TS]

◼   ► who are you I'm Batman [TS]

◼   ► here it is oh we we did that ad [TS]

◼   ► infinitum on its are everywhere else i'm [TS]

◼   ► back mad by then you're saying you [TS]

◼   ► stopped [TS]

◼   ► well no I don't think it's just slow [TS]

◼   ► down some some people went and got day [TS]

◼   ► jobs and didn't do it anymore but now i [TS]

◼   ► remember going up to a drive-through I [TS]

◼   ► don't want to say it was a McDonald's [TS]

◼   ► but it could have been a taco bell and [TS]

◼   ► and what is it can I help you have [TS]

◼   ► everyone in the car when I'm Batman [TS]

◼   ► yeah he threatens the one guy a lot but [TS]

◼   ► he but he says no no I'll send out you [TS]

◼   ► can send a message my notes here are all [TS]

◼   ► about how this I think is very [TS]

◼   ► definitely trying to reflect the new [TS]

◼   ► york city of this period this is a [TS]

◼   ► crumbling sleazy metropolis except often [TS]

◼   ► city it's not metropolis to Gotham City [TS]

◼   ► but it is it is very much that eighties [TS]

◼   ► sleazy garbagey New York that we're [TS]

◼   ► seeing in in Gotham it's gross [TS]

◼   ► the hipsters have not come yet know it's [TS]

◼   ► gross but it's also got art deco and [TS]

◼   ► gargoyles everywhere [TS]

◼   ► hmm sure it's a cooler city that's gone [TS]

◼   ► to credit and tommy guns the police [TS]

◼   ► carry tommy guns i love how I i love how [TS]

◼   ► just an anachronistic the whole thing is [TS]

◼   ► and they're all in like weird leather [TS]

◼   ► jackets that you know are you know the [TS]

◼   ► me I i think the word that comes to mind [TS]

◼   ► is it is discount finish where um yeah [TS]

◼   ► yeah but that's just that's it that's [TS]

◼   ► how they do things in Gotham yeah Tony [TS]

◼   ► when you can't afford a leather catsuit [TS]

◼   ► you know what you do you just cut up [TS]

◼   ► some final and so it but [TS]

◼   ► that's another yeah anyway I learned a [TS]

◼   ► lot in these movies [TS]

◼   ► hey so uh so we see Billy Dee Williams [TS]

◼   ► appears as Harvey Dent although he [TS]

◼   ► doesn't have very much to do in this [TS]

◼   ► movie he's just kind of present Jack [TS]

◼   ► Nicholson and a Jerry Hall i have a have [TS]

◼   ► a scene together jacket jacket is the [TS]

◼   ► henchman for the organized crime leader [TS]

◼   ► and Jerry Hall is his is his girl but [TS]

◼   ► they are stepping out on the side here [TS]

◼   ► and we get some lines including decent [TS]

◼   ► people shouldn't live here which is good [TS]

◼   ► this is Gotham City welcome to it and [TS]

◼   ► and what delightful casting is Jack [TS]

◼   ► palace you can be Jack Nicholson's boss [TS]

◼   ► yeah you just somebody bigger than Jack [TS]

◼   ► Nicholson Jack Nicholson is going to be [TS]

◼   ► playing this pretty big kind of big [TS]

◼   ► remember Jack never got my number one [TS]

◼   ► guy [TS]

◼   ► it's yeah Jack Palance is great as a [TS]

◼   ► Carl Grissom Chris some gruesome right [TS]

◼   ► and there's another there's dirty [TS]

◼   ► lieutenant Hart who we meet who is one [TS]

◼   ► of my least favorite things about this [TS]

◼   ► movie because he's just kind of a fat [TS]

◼   ► slob who is like dubbed in i think yeah [TS]

◼   ► I would I couldn't tell if what was [TS]

◼   ► going I wasn't sure if somebody if he [TS]

◼   ► was eight ER in his own lines or [TS]

◼   ► somebody else was covering them but yeah [TS]

◼   ► like noticeably doesn't match up the way [TS]

◼   ► he's dubbed to is strange [TS]

◼   ► he's dubbed as if he's communicating but [TS]

◼   ► the the voice is so soft and gravely [TS]

◼   ► that there's no way that any any noise [TS]

◼   ► at that volume could have been [TS]

◼   ► understandable by any of the other [TS]

◼   ► characters in the scene and I just don't [TS]

◼   ► I I never liked the character and I [TS]

◼   ► never liked the way he talked but it was [TS]

◼   ► only watching it back this time that I [TS]

◼   ► realized he's just completely dubbed in [TS]

◼   ► and I don't even know why and its kind [TS]

◼   ► of slightly gravely and anyway he's a [TS]

◼   ► crooked cop and and he's gross and his [TS]

◼   ► voice is super strange and and it's [TS]

◼   ► Porkins yeah yeah [TS]

◼   ► Porkins it's so bizarre to me well the [TS]

◼   ► butt with a weird dubbed again it might [TS]

◼   ► be him it might be somebody else mr. is [TS]

◼   ► it's very strange required a monthly I [TS]

◼   ► don't get that shit together [TS]

◼   ► someone else took up all the oxygen in [TS]

◼   ► the room before he got any life [TS]

◼   ► interesting [TS]

◼   ► we meet a couple other characters early [TS]

◼   ► on here too we we meet knocks the the [TS]

◼   ► reporter played by room TVs Robert wool [TS]

◼   ► oh I love knocks because Robert was [TS]

◼   ► playing him like he's the star of the [TS]

◼   ► movie yet haven't no no one told you see [TS]

◼   ► he's almost in a different movie [TS]

◼   ► he's like a wacky wacky journalism movie [TS]

◼   ► that is not the movies and it's it is [TS]

◼   ► very french maid and halfway through the [TS]

◼   ► movie he just drops out like he's off [TS]

◼   ► following scoops or something but it's [TS]

◼   ► like the movie said oh wait [TS]

◼   ► we've got Batman sorry Robert no he's [TS]

◼   ► like kind of any movie come with you I'm [TS]

◼   ► gonna do some stuff in the movies like [TS]

◼   ► no I remember him doing the late-night [TS]

◼   ► chat show circuit around this time and [TS]

◼   ► he was actually he was acting like it [TS]

◼   ► was his movie there too [TS]

◼   ► yeah this is terrible i remember on the [TS]

◼   ► comedy channel that he would do one of [TS]

◼   ► the going to commercial bumpers and it [TS]

◼   ► was mostly him complaining that he got a [TS]

◼   ► great contract that said he got a cut of [TS]

◼   ► the toy rights but then he discovered [TS]

◼   ► you only got a cut of his toy right and [TS]

◼   ► you were not a lot of plucky reporter [TS]

◼   ► toys being sold [TS]

◼   ► hey I had I had the plucky reporters [TS]

◼   ► journalist notebook and pen and and the [TS]

◼   ► snap brim hat you gotta you gotta give a [TS]

◼   ► couple dollars to Robert well that's [TS]

◼   ► okay he's got are less money now it's [TS]

◼   ► fine and we and we also meet kim [TS]

◼   ► basinger as Vicki Vale who is introduced [TS]

◼   ► so you know they're trying to do the on [TS]

◼   ► some kind of a battery thing between [TS]

◼   ► Robert wall and kim basinger her and I [TS]

◼   ► can't decide whether it's gross or [TS]

◼   ► whether it's amusing because he's so bad [TS]

◼   ► at it [TS]

◼   ► I tend to plump for the ladder yeah that [TS]

◼   ► that he's he's that bad at it she's [TS]

◼   ► humoring him because she needed help [TS]

◼   ► yeah I think he's the only one who's got [TS]

◼   ► the banter going on she's just humoring [TS]

◼   ► yeah but she's like it all gets summed [TS]

◼   ► up later on when at one point you know [TS]

◼   ► he's like expressing concern or [TS]

◼   ► something and she puts both her hands on [TS]

◼   ► his face and give them a quick little [TS]

◼   ► kiss your you're cute yorkie pups [TS]

◼   ► through it you can tell she's a serious [TS]

◼   ► reporter because she wears glasses [TS]

◼   ► sometimes huh right you can you can [TS]

◼   ► definitely tell that but they are again [TS]

◼   ► it is it is kind of a fun fun tone but [TS]

◼   ► it's a little bit weird because it's it [TS]

◼   ► is like from another movie about plucky [TS]

◼   ► reporters but it's really just to get us [TS]

◼   ► into this other story that were that [TS]

◼   ► were going to get with with Batman which [TS]

◼   ► is fine i I actually made a note at this [TS]

◼   ► point to that at points rubber walls [TS]

◼   ► performance reminds me a little bit of [TS]

◼   ► like Bill Murray in ghostbusters it's [TS]

◼   ► that kind of eccentric and bizarre and [TS]

◼   ► there's the whole thing where where [TS]

◼   ► they're in Bruce Wayne's uh that mansion [TS]

◼   ► and they're like wander into the Hall of [TS]

◼   ► weapons like the museum room must be a [TS]

◼   ► hang of the wicker people and things [TS]

◼   ► like that where it's just the strange [TS]

◼   ► you know but look at this look at that [TS]

◼   ► mirror he must be Bruce vain [TS]

◼   ► I'm like again and again and again it's [TS]

◼   ► just nice girl and i genuinely enjoy him [TS]

◼   ► he's not putting a lot of energy out in [TS]

◼   ► a role that he has to know isn't that [TS]

◼   ► important [TS]

◼   ► good for him i think he thinks it's that [TS]

◼   ► important i'm sorry and godbless [TS]

◼   ► important lesson yes I enjoy and I'm [TS]

◼   ► surprised how much of his dialogue I I i [TS]

◼   ► know i like know by heart the right wall [TS]

◼   ► dialogue is wacky and it gets you into [TS]

◼   ► the movie and yeah and then he is [TS]

◼   ► discarded but he's kind of fun while you [TS]

◼   ► sit around he serves His function and [TS]

◼   ► goes on [TS]

◼   ► yeah he doesn't die no he doesn't so we [TS]

◼   ► get to kiss on the check instead on this [TS]

◼   ► way in fact that the oh yeah that's [TS]

◼   ► that's a happy ending in Gotham [TS]

◼   ► well it's not a pure it's not a pure [TS]

◼   ► origin movie it's sort of the first [TS]

◼   ► appearance of Batman but we don't get [TS]

◼   ► the we don't get the let's go to Nanda [TS]

◼   ► Parbat and have training site once this [TS]

◼   ► kind of stuff so in the beginning that [TS]

◼   ► man's a mystery and Knox's the character [TS]

◼   ► that is sort of investigating the [TS]

◼   ► mystery and that that's our gateway in [TS]

◼   ► and then that this everything shifts [TS]

◼   ► over to Michael Keaton and there's [TS]

◼   ► nothing for him to do and right good [TS]

◼   ► riddance [TS]

◼   ► good riddance also we get what you get [TS]

◼   ► in in there in around this part i'm not [TS]

◼   ► going to go point by point here but this [TS]

◼   ► is where we get to see Michael Keaton we [TS]

◼   ► get to see Michael koffice as Alfred as [TS]

◼   ► well in some of these scenes in here [TS]

◼   ► Michael Keaton so we talked about it I i [TS]

◼   ► think i think this movie does a good job [TS]

◼   ► of of getting a [TS]

◼   ► introduced to Bruce Wayne and and I i [TS]

◼   ► think yeah you spend a few minutes with [TS]

◼   ► Michael Keaton is Bruce Wayne and I feel [TS]

◼   ► like i buy into it is like oh IC IC why [TS]

◼   ► Michael Keaton's in this movie because I [TS]

◼   ► think he does i think he does a good job [TS]

◼   ► my favorite Bruce Wayne of any movie [TS]

◼   ► yes i like i like his version of like [TS]

◼   ► weirdo eccentric I Bruce Wayne because [TS]

◼   ► there's so many versions of Bruce Wayne [TS]

◼   ► as the like the polished millionaire [TS]

◼   ► playboy who is smooth talking and this I [TS]

◼   ► like this guy who's just like no he's [TS]

◼   ► awkward and weird and spend a lot of [TS]

◼   ► time sitting by himself being brought [TS]

◼   ► sandwiches by offered and doesn't really [TS]

◼   ► know how to talk to people also he's [TS]

◼   ► apparently not a celebrity and Gotham [TS]

◼   ► not everybody knows what he looks like [TS]

◼   ► and he's just this weird guy who throws [TS]

◼   ► kind of benefit party things at his [TS]

◼   ► house i like i like awkward Bruce Wayne [TS]

◼   ► I details to enjoy himself at the party [TS]

◼   ► like when he sneaks behind the the two [TS]

◼   ► reporters and they're going to his [TS]

◼   ► Museum he's watching them and he's [TS]

◼   ► genuinely amused i feel like this is the [TS]

◼   ► only Bruce Wayne from the movies i would [TS]

◼   ► actually watch a movie about right yeah [TS]

◼   ► right well in in in retrospect he's you [TS]

◼   ► know I don't know how intentional was [TS]

◼   ► but it's it's almost like he's playing [TS]

◼   ► Bruce Wayne somewhere on the spectrum [TS]

◼   ► right he's clearly a genius is of course [TS]

◼   ► the world's greatest detective and of [TS]

◼   ► course this is a movie where we get to [TS]

◼   ► see that for once we get to know Bruce [TS]

◼   ► Wayne instead of just Batman or just as [TS]

◼   ► a cover for Batman and and i love that [TS]

◼   ► and you know you get the impression that [TS]

◼   ► he could fake being cool and suave if he [TS]

◼   ► had to but this is a little bit more [TS]

◼   ► like himself at least in this part of [TS]

◼   ► the movie I was a mild comic book geek [TS]

◼   ► going high school college and if for [TS]

◼   ► this movie [TS]

◼   ► the reason that I went was because they [TS]

◼   ► cast Michael Keaton an accident that I [TS]

◼   ► really really loved and was really [TS]

◼   ► invested in and I was looking at the [TS]

◼   ► blowback of you know it can't be and I'm [TS]

◼   ► like yes it can you know yes it can [TS]

◼   ► trust me [TS]

◼   ► anybody can be hiding under that suit [TS]

◼   ► but you've got to have somebody with his [TS]

◼   ► kind of charm and wackiness and [TS]

◼   ► instability [TS]

◼   ► I mean that that you're dealing with a [TS]

◼   ► young man who [TS]

◼   ► you know who lost his parents were [TS]

◼   ► killed in front of his eyes at a very [TS]

◼   ► young age and his reaction to that is to [TS]

◼   ► go and trained himself to the utmost to [TS]

◼   ► to do something about it and not just do [TS]

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◼   ► a lot of really fine i acting from [TS]

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◼   ► expressions come thru yes it's a quirk [TS]

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◼   ► what would they call that movie i think [TS]

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◼   ► Bruce and and Vicki to get together at [TS]

◼   ► several points brings her to him in the [TS]

◼   ► Batcave at the end of the movie and it's [TS]

◼   ► just he's just so so delightful the [TS]

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◼   ► think i think has there been great [TS]

◼   ► Alfred's in movies but i really love [TS]

◼   ► Michael gasps performances as Alfred [TS]

◼   ► he's just just delightful and helpful [TS]

◼   ► and friendly and loving and you know and [TS]

◼   ► and fatherly yeah exactly right i mean [TS]

◼   ► we're jumping kinda head I i love the [TS]

◼   ► scene where vicki and Bruce have their [TS]

◼   ► kind of their date and then Alfred kind [TS]

◼   ► of the day it starts with the this yet [TS]

◼   ► whether the judge with joke Adams jokes [TS]

◼   ► shot rather the long ends of the table [TS]

◼   ► into classic and then they go from that [TS]

◼   ► to like hanging out in the kitchen with [TS]

◼   ► Alfred so nice i like that a lot [TS]

◼   ► that's that's because that's Bruce Wayne [TS]

◼   ► getting over himself for getting over [TS]

◼   ► his I think it's getting over his view [TS]

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◼   ► then just being like they I like how you [TS]

◼   ► actually see him like pick up his plate [TS]

◼   ► and his wine glass and be like come on [TS]

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◼   ► much warmer kind of wood table little [TS]

◼   ► light light wood and then like a kitchen [TS]

◼   ► or something with Alfred it's great and [TS]

◼   ► just before that that great line when [TS]

◼   ► Vicki says that you know I don't think [TS]

◼   ► this mansion is very much it is this [TS]

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◼   ► it is very much me know it's it's it's [TS]

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◼   ► a long shot right there are but there [TS]

◼   ► are subtleties in Michael Keaton's [TS]

◼   ► performance [TS]

◼   ► yeah i agree i agree there's a lot of [TS]

◼   ► little nice stuff a lot of less stuff [TS]

◼   ► with Michael Keaton and Michael Michael [TS]

◼   ► cough the okay so yeah we should talk [TS]

◼   ► about Jack Nicholson as jack napier and [TS]

◼   ► he becomes he becomes the Joker unsubtle [TS]

◼   ► half of the no it'sit's not i meannot a [TS]

◼   ► carton eckhardt who I didn't like gets [TS]

◼   ► shot by jack in a scene at the access [TS]

◼   ► chemical plant which i also just to say [TS]

◼   ► again that i don't like that character [TS]

◼   ► before he gets shot he's like acting [TS]

◼   ► like a zombie he's just kind of moving [TS]

◼   ► very slowly and kind of going in and [TS]

◼   ► it's I don't understand that carry I [TS]

◼   ► don't even know why that character is [TS]

◼   ► there it's really bad but but the Joker [TS]

◼   ► so jack napier who is revealed late in [TS]

◼   ► the movie in a coincidence that's [TS]

◼   ► probably unnecessary is the person who [TS]

◼   ► shot [TS]

◼   ► Bruce Wayne's parents yeah [TS]

◼   ► f words about that later yeah well we'll [TS]

◼   ► get it will circle around that but here [TS]

◼   ► he he you know there's a shootout he [TS]

◼   ► gets hit by a ricochet Batman tries to [TS]

◼   ► capture catch him but he drops into the [TS]

◼   ► chemicals and is is dead and will never [TS]

◼   ► see him again except of course he [TS]

◼   ► resurfaces with the the white face and [TS]

◼   ► is the is the Joker so they got my [TS]

◼   ► understanding is that they backed up a [TS]

◼   ► truck money to Jack Nicholson's house [TS]

◼   ► and they said you can be in our movie [TS]

◼   ► will pay you a lot of money you can go [TS]

◼   ► to all the laker games will make sure [TS]

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◼   ► the amount of time you have to spend on [TS]

◼   ► this movie but you know it was quite a [TS]

◼   ► coup to get the guy who was basically [TS]

◼   ► considered the best or one of the what [TS]

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◼   ► got a golden globe nomination he even [TS]

◼   ► got Top Billing yeah mmm yeah absolutely [TS]

◼   ► and that Joker's a plum role right i [TS]

◼   ► mean this is this is this isn't this [TS]

◼   ► isn't a role that won an Oscar for [TS]

◼   ► somebody else to write it is a quite a [TS]

◼   ► role to bite to chew off to bite on [TS]

◼   ► jewel I don't know to shoot there's a [TS]

◼   ► lot of chewing scenery going on really [TS]

◼   ► is what's happening again [TS]

◼   ► it's quite a roll yeah when Jack [TS]

◼   ► Nicholson puts his all into it and then [TS]

◼   ► some [TS]

◼   ► and this early in the movie he's also [TS]

◼   ► really really good as jack napier yeah [TS]

◼   ► and that's that the-the-the minutes the [TS]

◼   ► unhinged miss that's just sort of in the [TS]

◼   ► background waiting to be released after [TS]

◼   ► he takes a bath you know he he's a [TS]

◼   ► plausible gangster villain and then then [TS]

◼   ► he just he just cuts loose he gets [TS]

◼   ► behind the makeup and he just what's [TS]

◼   ► that what's that phrase you use a lot [TS]

◼   ► Jason turns into the skin just admits to [TS]

◼   ► it you know you just gotta go with it [TS]

◼   ► right [TS]

◼   ► yes he's a jack napier zile operated on [TS]

◼   ► by a German doctor who has a very bad [TS]

◼   ► set of tools it looks more like [TS]

◼   ► something you get info and you can get [TS]

◼   ► into Medical why they really did a heck [TS]

◼   ► of a job and I think those tools for [TS]

◼   ► what you used to like punch holes of [TS]

◼   ► letting up but that was that was what [TS]

◼   ► tim burton was stocking up for Edward [TS]

◼   ► Scissorhands so it's bad but that's bad [TS]

◼   ► news for Jack Palance he's not gonna [TS]

◼   ► make it because uh because jack napier [TS]

◼   ► has come back from the dead he knows [TS]

◼   ► that he he was sent to the axis chemical [TS]

◼   ► plant as a setup because he was stepping [TS]

◼   ► out with with his girl [TS]

◼   ► jerry hall so sugar bumps sugar bumps [TS]

◼   ► just putting it out there and so yeah so [TS]

◼   ► he kills a he kills Jack Palance I had [TS]

◼   ► to jagannatha told me to kill jack [TS]

◼   ► palance and says wait till they get a [TS]

◼   ► load of me but interesting decision by [TS]

◼   ► Jack Nicholson an interesting decision [TS]

◼   ► by tim burton to leave it in at and I [TS]

◼   ► I'd say this is a representative of how [TS]

◼   ► far they let Nicholson go with this [TS]

◼   ► he doesn't just say wait till they get a [TS]

◼   ► load of me he then goes whoo whoop em [TS]

◼   ► haha and they just leave it all in just [TS]

◼   ► letting you know for sure I'm insane but [TS]

◼   ► it's not even that he's saying wait till [TS]

◼   ► they get a load of me its weight only [TS]

◼   ► get a load of me he follows it up with a [TS]

◼   ► sound and then another weird sound a [TS]

◼   ► maniacal laugh and tim burton's like [TS]

◼   ► yeah we're just gonna keep all that in [TS]

◼   ► just let a roll there's a dance he does [TS]

◼   ► when he leaves one of the seems that [TS]

◼   ► it's just like it blows my mind that [TS]

◼   ► that's that's this that's in there is a [TS]

◼   ► few times where Nicholson is just [TS]

◼   ► goofing around at the end of the team [TS]

◼   ► they leave it in there is the time he [TS]

◼   ► tells his really loyal henchmen in a [TS]

◼   ► black Palace imitation you my number one [TS]

◼   ► guy he and then the guy leaves and [TS]

◼   ► nickel just standing there going [TS]

◼   ► do-do-do-do-do-do VD just move it off [TS]

◼   ► but the Joker could just be goofing off [TS]

◼   ► let's leave it in its great he is not [TS]

◼   ► concerned about what like there's a lot [TS]

◼   ► where he's just a room by himself but [TS]

◼   ► it's like no peace still going he does [TS]

◼   ► not need an audience but when he has an [TS]

◼   ► audio yeah it goes up to love even [TS]

◼   ► bigger [TS]

◼   ► yeah like it when they hit the museum [TS]

◼   ► okay here's what we're doing guys [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah let's see what else in there [TS]

◼   ► Bruce Bruce lies to vicki vale after [TS]

◼   ► they've spent the night together [TS]

◼   ► I says he's got to go out of town but [TS]

◼   ► Alfred [TS]

◼   ► basically gives gives that away awkward [TS]

◼   ► like yeah yeah that was that was well [TS]

◼   ► you you're supposed to let your Butler [TS]

◼   ► know that you've gotta yeah you [TS]

◼   ► should've gone with it though i suppose [TS]

◼   ► i'm thinking that this alfred was not a [TS]

◼   ► former spy i think it offered in this is [TS]

◼   ► not used to Bruce Wayne as a woman i was [TS]

◼   ► a playboy right so much so he doesn't [TS]

◼   ► have the moves down it like oh yes we [TS]

◼   ► are going out of town [TS]

◼   ► ya soon as Bruce has a girlfriend [TS]

◼   ► girlfriend gets brought down to the bad [TS]

◼   ► hey so alpha tango what so that you've [TS]

◼   ► got a girl now [TS]

◼   ► yeah but there's no they don't have any [TS]

◼   ► pop formal policies written up it's a [TS]

◼   ► problem I owe the Joker has a meeting of [TS]

◼   ► all the crime lords in ya Gotham City [TS]

◼   ► they have a little meeting little table [TS]

◼   ► gang of gangs yeah I love his vanity [TS]

◼   ► that he's got the flesh-colored makeup [TS]

◼   ► plastered on top of his chalk white skin [TS]

◼   ► and this one and hit that looks even [TS]

◼   ► more creepy that's one of my favorite [TS]

◼   ► things is that his skin is naturally [TS]

◼   ► white with the smile but sometimes he [TS]

◼   ► puts makeup on to have it look normal [TS]

◼   ► and then later on the movie tells Batman [TS]

◼   ► i have taken off my makeup [TS]

◼   ► let's see if you can take off yours [TS]

◼   ► except he hasn't taken off his makeup [TS]

◼   ► he's put more makeup on right yeah well [TS]

◼   ► it's it's not it's not that it's vanity [TS]

◼   ► it's he's he he knows nobody knows what [TS]

◼   ► he looks like yet anybody also wants to [TS]

◼   ► freak them out as the makeup starts to [TS]

◼   ► crack and peel away the smile looks [TS]

◼   ► pretty freaked out about to me [TS]

◼   ► yeah weird prosthetic it is weird he [TS]

◼   ► killed he kills a guy with the joy [TS]

◼   ► buzzer [TS]

◼   ► you mentioned the you're my number one [TS]

◼   ► guy and all that Bob I enjoy Bob [TS]

◼   ► throughout this movie is not right now [TS]

◼   ► he is a little bit Larry Darrell and [TS]

◼   ► Darrell but he's quite enjoyable as just [TS]

◼   ► loyal sidekick guy who keeps saying [TS]

◼   ► things his lines are all like yes sir [TS]

◼   ► that's it that's all Bob does i have [TS]

◼   ► watched him for years I saw him on WKRP [TS]

◼   ► in the first season and when [TS]

◼   ► wow that's a really weird guy huh and [TS]

◼   ► then he was also in a show called best [TS]

◼   ► of the west from the makers of taxi [TS]

◼   ► which was a Western thing and he played [TS]

◼   ► a henchman named fraud [TS]

◼   ► and that was delightful it's tracy [TS]

◼   ► Walter is the name of the actor enjoyed [TS]

◼   ► when the Joker's gang shows up to the [TS]

◼   ► point guns at all the boss leaders that [TS]

◼   ► they already have embroidered jackets [TS]

◼   ► with like patches of the Joker's face [TS]

◼   ► it's like that's how you know they're [TS]

◼   ► good management group is that they've [TS]

◼   ► already like day one we've got invited [TS]

◼   ► jackets ready to go like the movies of [TS]

◼   ► marketing behavior yeah yeah that's [TS]

◼   ► Joker's got all sorts of stuff will see [TS]

◼   ► even more stuff the Joker's got ready to [TS]

◼   ► go ready to deploy he's he's crafted [TS]

◼   ► people in both senses of the word [TS]

◼   ► oh he's just my type yeah so let's see [TS]

◼   ► what else I mean jack napier then [TS]

◼   ► attacks various gangsters Bruce Wayne is [TS]

◼   ► is stunned and shocked by this Batman [TS]

◼   ► gets all the headlines even though [TS]

◼   ► Napier's attacked all the gangsters he's [TS]

◼   ► very upset that we get this town needs [TS]

◼   ► an enema that line happens here in this [TS]

◼   ► in this area again jack nicholson what [TS]

◼   ► can you say just yeah he's clearing the [TS]

◼   ► trailer [TS]

◼   ► yeah well here is the trailer right be [TS]

◼   ► he's a whole both of these movies have a [TS]

◼   ► lot of press conferences in them like a [TS]

◼   ► lot of press conferences in them a lot [TS]

◼   ► of on the steps of City Hall the one [TS]

◼   ► that I find the weirdest is that there [TS]

◼   ► is the Mafia press conference that the [TS]

◼   ► Joker and his mind to people that that [TS]

◼   ► one that one confused me a little bit [TS]

◼   ► but again i did not live in Gotham in [TS]

◼   ► 1980 night I maybe that's just business [TS]

◼   ► as usual but like yeah if I'm if I'm [TS]

◼   ► running the organized crime i would hold [TS]

◼   ► less press conferences what I'm saying [TS]

◼   ► maybe none maybe none maybe I mean look [TS]

◼   ► just throwing that out there huh that's [TS]

◼   ► the one where nobody notices the [TS]

◼   ► extremely amateurish minds around the [TS]

◼   ► place right [TS]

◼   ► yep yep yep you know again I guys you [TS]

◼   ► guys are older than me i'm just i'm [TS]

◼   ► assuming a lot about what 1998-1999 was [TS]

◼   ► like there weren't that many minds all [TS]

◼   ► the way there are mines and how many [TS]

◼   ► what was the mind to press conference [TS]

◼   ► ratio is what i mask it well let me tell [TS]

◼   ► you about a couple named shields and [TS]

◼   ► Yarnell era para primes and they were [TS]

◼   ► huge they had their own show [TS]

◼   ► they did have yeah the seventies yes [TS]

◼   ► they did a god I'm suddenly feeling [TS]

◼   ► younger is anybody there [TS]

◼   ► there's a point at which vicki vale [TS]

◼   ► suddenly is way more interested in using [TS]

◼   ► her newspapers resources to look up [TS]

◼   ► information about her boyfriend then to [TS]

◼   ► investigate Batman is she supposed to be [TS]

◼   ► doing she seems to have a lot of free [TS]

◼   ► range from her previous highly [TS]

◼   ► successful photojournalism run in that [TS]

◼   ► island that she just came back from we [TS]

◼   ► haven't actually talked a whole lot [TS]

◼   ► about Vicki Vale and I think there's a [TS]

◼   ► reason for the hands [TS]

◼   ► I have to know you think which are an [TS]

◼   ► amazing apartment [TS]

◼   ► yes and in one scene she has a Padawan [TS]

◼   ► braid yeah okay just one little braids [TS]

◼   ► on the side of her head going down over [TS]

◼   ► her shoulder she might be a jet by now i [TS]

◼   ► remember being rather irritated at one [TS]

◼   ► point watching the movie at some point [TS]

◼   ► it may not have been the first time but [TS]

◼   ► at a subsequent watching because when [TS]

◼   ► they introduce her she's you know shown [TS]

◼   ► to be very capable award-winning [TS]

◼   ► globe-trotting photojournalist looking [TS]

◼   ► for the the heavy hard stories [TS]

◼   ► yeah um and so it's yet Robert walls [TS]

◼   ► character you know somewhat [TS]

◼   ► understandably you're going to chase [TS]

◼   ► Batman it doesn't quite seem to fit [TS]

◼   ► um and then about halfway through the [TS]

◼   ► movie or so all of a sudden there's [TS]

◼   ► apparently nothing left for kim basinger [TS]

◼   ► to do then scream or dangle from a Ledge [TS]

◼   ► or cord or something or faint and it's [TS]

◼   ► like you're not [TS]

◼   ► she was doing well she could have [TS]

◼   ► contributed the amount of her dialogue [TS]

◼   ► that is her screaming in reaction to [TS]

◼   ► something is like a lot began well okay [TS]

◼   ► so I like the scene where she's on the [TS]

◼   ► rooftop and she immediately starts [TS]

◼   ► taking pictures of Batman fighting in [TS]

◼   ► the alley right that's good news sense [TS]

◼   ► like that that's the scene where I'm [TS]

◼   ► like okay she's doing her job and of [TS]

◼   ► course right then uses the Old Cape [TS]

◼   ► trick to steal the film out of her bra [TS]

◼   ► but I be on Cape trick you okay yeah [TS]

◼   ► that does that a lot he's like who [TS]

◼   ► there's a cape and what happens then [TS]

◼   ► nobody knows it's under the Cape was a [TS]

◼   ► mystery that's how Batman does it all [TS]

◼   ► sorts of magic tricks [TS]

◼   ► anyway so that's good but then you're [TS]

◼   ► right a other than that she's mostly a [TS]

◼   ► damsel i do think that when she when [TS]

◼   ► Alfred brings her into the Batcave [TS]

◼   ► toward the end but that's a nice [TS]

◼   ► where she's being like supportive I i [TS]

◼   ► find her her support for Bruce nice but [TS]

◼   ► again that's being supportive and not [TS]

◼   ► you know but at but at the same time [TS]

◼   ► she's kind of like breaking down his [TS]

◼   ► shell so there are moments in there [TS]

◼   ► whenever she's put in any sort of like [TS]

◼   ► part of the plot like the wind with the [TS]

◼   ► Joker the art museum is the most [TS]

◼   ► disappointing one because although she [TS]

◼   ► she gives a push back to him a little [TS]

◼   ► bit you know like when when she goes to [TS]

◼   ► comfort him with because he got covered [TS]

◼   ► in water and he's melting like it's just [TS]

◼   ► dumb like why would you do that in jan [TS]

◼   ► there's also lots of lots of the [TS]

◼   ► screaming lots again we're almost at the [TS]

◼   ► Museum attack actually but I i wanted to [TS]

◼   ► mention a couple other things I enjoy [TS]

◼   ► the new TV news as we see it in this [TS]

◼   ► movie not the first off the outfit on [TS]

◼   ► the the first anchor woman who dies is [TS]

◼   ► staggering [TS]

◼   ► it looks like it's like a jacket with [TS]

◼   ► shoulder pads but it looks literally [TS]

◼   ► looks like she's wearing a parka it is [TS]

◼   ► so huge and padded it is amazing [TS]

◼   ► she's not the only one can be a singer [TS]

◼   ► and Robert wool yeah there's a lot of [TS]

◼   ► shoulder pad action in this room well [TS]

◼   ► it's against wasn't talking head suit [TS]

◼   ► like he's nowhere near the outside is [TS]

◼   ► what it is but that one first [TS]

◼   ► anchorwoman is the most extreme of all [TS]

◼   ► of them but i really loved the joke [TS]

◼   ► where they discovered that the cosmetics [TS]

◼   ► are poisoned and they don't know exactly [TS]

◼   ► where the poison is and then for the [TS]

◼   ► rest of the the movie the TV anchors [TS]

◼   ► have no makeup on and they've been made [TS]

◼   ► to have blemishes and things all over [TS]

◼   ► their faces that kills me after your [TS]

◼   ► hair their hair looks awful [TS]

◼   ► so it doesn't need to be there because [TS]

◼   ► they don't even have combs anymore it's [TS]

◼   ► just a joke [TS]

◼   ► yeah and it's mainly mainly affects TV [TS]

◼   ► anchors Vicki Vale is doing fine [TS]

◼   ► Tom you know she's not what she imports [TS]

◼   ► all of her husband watches ok thank you [TS]

◼   ► and can accepted and so we're off to the [TS]

◼   ► museum so uh Vicki give Alfred get a [TS]

◼   ► call saying she'll be 10 minutes late to [TS]

◼   ► the museum but to meet Bruce but that is [TS]

◼   ► a he's not meeting her there so that's a [TS]

◼   ► bad sign i think that this looks like a [TS]

◼   ► job for Batman and what happens is the [TS]

◼   ► gas the Joker the Joker attacks they [TS]

◼   ► gasp the museum [TS]

◼   ► and then immediately the Joker and [TS]

◼   ► enhancement after everybody drops [TS]

◼   ► Vicki's got a little mask that she's [TS]

◼   ► been given by a in a little package and [TS]

◼   ► told put this on immediately everybody [TS]

◼   ► drops because of the gas and then the [TS]

◼   ► Joker and his people walk in which is [TS]

◼   ► interesting because you think there [TS]

◼   ► would still be gas but they have no [TS]

◼   ► masks [TS]

◼   ► it's fine it's fine it's time for a [TS]

◼   ► dance party and finally Prince shows up [TS]

◼   ► is this good time to talk about princes [TS]

◼   ► concrete yeah this is the time because [TS]

◼   ► they play they play a song arm on the [TS]

◼   ► boom box as they go through and deface [TS]

◼   ► all the art or Sorry Sorry improve the [TS]

◼   ► art as Joker would tell us and we play a [TS]

◼   ► prince song as as that goes on there's [TS]

◼   ► another prints on later during the [TS]

◼   ► parade prince was in quite a coup was [TS]

◼   ► commissioned to basically do in a [TS]

◼   ► batman-themed album and those songs [TS]

◼   ► would be in the movie and then the end [TS]

◼   ► and then what happened was Tim Burton [TS]

◼   ► said I'm not really interested in that [TS]

◼   ► you have you heard my boy Elfman he's [TS]

◼   ► got a really good theme [TS]

◼   ► yeah well Danny Elfman we could talk [TS]

◼   ► about that i think that i think this is [TS]

◼   ► one of my favorite movie scores of all [TS]

◼   ► time I love the danny elfman score but [TS]

◼   ► it is kind of amazing that they got an [TS]

◼   ► entire album by Prince that a lot of [TS]

◼   ► people really love and it's it's some of [TS]

◼   ► it is played in the background in a [TS]

◼   ► couple of scenes but there's literally [TS]

◼   ► these two scenes where prince comes to [TS]

◼   ► the fore at all and it's expressed like [TS]

◼   ► part of the plot right right thats that [TS]

◼   ► the only use that that Tim Burton has [TS]

◼   ► four Prince's like if they're playing [TS]

◼   ► music in the movie will play a prince [TS]

◼   ► song but otherwise forget it [TS]

◼   ► otherwise it's just going to be score [TS]

◼   ► did they pick Prince just because he [TS]

◼   ► likes purple and the Joker likes purple [TS]

◼   ► I don't all i think this was again just [TS]

◼   ► a marketing uh you know the marketing [TS]

◼   ► behemoth kicking in and he was he was [TS]

◼   ► like the biggest thing on warner music [TS]

◼   ► more music yeah and they said let's [TS]

◼   ► let's make this energy happen [TS]

◼   ► yeah and he played saturday night live [TS]

◼   ► during the promotion for this stuff and [TS]

◼   ► all I can remember is that he did party [TS]

◼   ► man [TS]

◼   ► and.and who entrust and he's performing [TS]

◼   ► those songs on the SNL stage with the [TS]

◼   ► giant Batman that logo of course lying [TS]

◼   ► behind them because you know I don't [TS]

◼   ► know who is intended to be bigger at [TS]

◼   ► this point prince or Batman [TS]

◼   ► merchandising well i think that was [TS]

◼   ► where Prince got his idea to change his [TS]

◼   ► name to a giant symbol gonna be [TS]

◼   ► unfortunately batman logo was was taken [TS]

◼   ► so we couldn't do that [TS]

◼   ► Batman princess batman logo hit number [TS]

◼   ► one on the billboard album chart it was [TS]

◼   ► it was a it was a big seller even though [TS]

◼   ► you can barely hear in the movie I just [TS]

◼   ► I I wonder what movie would be like I I [TS]

◼   ► feel like a modern a more modern movie [TS]

◼   ► would have gone all the way with like [TS]

◼   ► Prince wall-to-wall and I'm not sure [TS]

◼   ► whether that would have been better or [TS]

◼   ► worse but it would have been very [TS]

◼   ► different from what we get with with [TS]

◼   ► these two to the two tracks being played [TS]

◼   ► trust and Parliament and and the music I [TS]

◼   ► mean just bad dance was the video for [TS]

◼   ► that was what like 45 minutes or even [TS]

◼   ► six minutes and it was on every hour on [TS]

◼   ► mtv furling three days i'm telling you [TS]

◼   ► the marketing for this movie brilliant i [TS]

◼   ► own a lot of bad songs easily the worst [TS]

◼   ► song i own and that means it's worse [TS]

◼   ► than all of disco Evita is a cover of [TS]

◼   ► batt dance cover we have when i worked [TS]

◼   ► at a movie theater we had a CD of a [TS]

◼   ► generic bands versions of various movie [TS]

◼   ► theme songs because they didn't want to [TS]

◼   ► pay for the full rights and some poor [TS]

◼   ► girl had to record it and not use any of [TS]

◼   ► the samples so they had to get a new [TS]

◼   ► actress into the oh my do to go [TS]

◼   ► vicki vale vale be keeping that makes me [TS]

◼   ► feel like I wasted my time memorizing [TS]

◼   ► that song back in the day he got ways to [TS]

◼   ► shut the investment ship you can get [TS]

◼   ► that back by creating your own cover [TS]

◼   ► version you've invested in yourself [TS]

◼   ► every day here from now on they couldn't [TS]

◼   ► even be bothered to playback dance over [TS]

◼   ► the end credits [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah I know right i mean [TS]

◼   ► that'sthat's i do think that it's a [TS]

◼   ► missed opportunity there it's also just [TS]

◼   ► a sign of the left hand and the right [TS]

◼   ► hand not knowing what each other was [TS]

◼   ► doing that by tim burton well so I have [TS]

◼   ► a lot of theories about this movie that [TS]

◼   ► maybe i'll get to before we [TS]

◼   ► it's a batman returns that but there's [TS]

◼   ► definitely the conflict between the [TS]

◼   ► studio and the marketing and the giant [TS]

◼   ► machine and Tim Burton who likes to make [TS]

◼   ► weird quirky tweet little movies there [TS]

◼   ► was a lot of conflict creatively about [TS]

◼   ► this movie and I think it's amazing that [TS]

◼   ► that it turns out as well as it does [TS]

◼   ► given all of that [TS]

◼   ► well I mean you had John Peters [TS]

◼   ► producing or executive producing and he [TS]

◼   ► was kind of insane mom you know and I'm [TS]

◼   ► sure prince was his idea and and going [TS]

◼   ► here let's do this and let's do that [TS]

◼   ► let's do this and and I know that the [TS]

◼   ► ending was not tim burton's idea that [TS]

◼   ► wasn't in the script it was John Peters [TS]

◼   ► going hey would it be awesome if they [TS]

◼   ► like climb to the top of the cathedral [TS]

◼   ► and the whole thing took place up there [TS]

◼   ► and why do we kill Vicki Vale and then [TS]

◼   ► Batman will get really angry [TS]

◼   ► it's like okay and and he went ahead and [TS]

◼   ► had the thing constructed without [TS]

◼   ► clearing it with anybody was just like [TS]

◼   ► here this is gonna be the end of the [TS]

◼   ► movie and they actually and like they [TS]

◼   ► asked to Burton's like why are we [TS]

◼   ► climbing to the top of the thing because [TS]

◼   ► i don't know we'll figure it out when [TS]

◼   ► you get there and they had to redo that [TS]

◼   ► so that's that's kinda like the movie a [TS]

◼   ► microcosm the original screen [TS]

◼   ► screenwriter was a guy named sam ham and [TS]

◼   ► then a guy named warrants car and came [TS]

◼   ► in after it so alliteration was [TS]

◼   ► absolutely important while riding right [TS]

◼   ► but I mean yeah thank you [TS]

◼   ► I and my understanding is the Sam ham [TS]

◼   ► script was fairly straight and you have [TS]

◼   ► monkey you have lines that survived of [TS]

◼   ► the the the rewrite and temperance [TS]

◼   ► direction that get completely turned [TS]

◼   ► over like the the Joker cylindrical e it [TS]

◼   ► you might join me for a week after the [TS]

◼   ► weird confrontation between Bruce Wayne [TS]

◼   ► and the Joker and Vicki and he plays it [TS]

◼   ► for Laughs things like that there is so [TS]

◼   ► much dissonance in this movie between [TS]

◼   ► temper and sensibilities and and the [TS]

◼   ► screenwriters is this a serious movie or [TS]

◼   ► is tim burton taking the piss out of [TS]

◼   ► superheroes in general because he's Tim [TS]

◼   ► Burton [TS]

◼   ► you're right it'sit's it's amazing that [TS]

◼   ► this movie is this is successful as it [TS]

◼   ► is because these parts don't fit no no [TS]

◼   ► they really don't know there are other [TS]

◼   ► parts to that that will get 22 because [TS]

◼   ► there's that the whole romantic comedy [TS]

◼   ► part that comes back again later [TS]

◼   ► that's like a totally other movie said [TS]

◼   ► that also happens in here it's like When [TS]

◼   ► Harry Met Sally if Harry was Batman [TS]

◼   ► anyway [TS]

◼   ► hey will but I don't know what she's [TS]

◼   ► happy so the museum the museum scene i [TS]

◼   ► like because it is this manic Joker [TS]

◼   ► dancing around the prince and I think [TS]

◼   ► that's pretty good [TS]

◼   ► there's some great dialogue in here this [TS]

◼   ► is this is quality Joker antics write [TS]

◼   ► like this is the one-dollar bill i like [TS]

◼   ► that that's pretty good [TS]

◼   ► uh I don't know if it's art but i like [TS]

◼   ► it like he says at that painting the [TS]

◼   ► one-dollar bill and then a scene later [TS]

◼   ► he says what he wants is to have his [TS]

◼   ► face on the one-dollar bill and I like [TS]

◼   ► to think the Joker just thought of it [TS]

◼   ► because he just saw panting I like the [TS]

◼   ► one where they go by the really weird [TS]

◼   ► painting and he's like I I don't touch [TS]

◼   ► this one I kinda like it [TS]

◼   ► they move on its we're creating a move [TS]

◼   ► on it's good and then and then I I like [TS]

◼   ► how it all comes together where he tells [TS]

◼   ► vicki vale I'm an artist I'm a car i'm a [TS]

◼   ► card until someone dies that's what i do [TS]

◼   ► and it's like all right I get the Joker [TS]

◼   ► now is it a night Jerry Hall comes back [TS]

◼   ► and Jerry Hall yeah exactly who he is [TS]

◼   ► he's a he's really hide that she's [TS]

◼   ► wearing them at why she wearing the mask [TS]

◼   ► and she's acting all weird and then yeah [TS]

◼   ► she just make it but that man comes to [TS]

◼   ► say Vicky before we can get more time in [TS]

◼   ► the in the museum but i just i love the [TS]

◼   ► museum scene i love i love ya i love the [TS]

◼   ► whole thing it's weird and and funny and [TS]

◼   ► and yeah it's good and that leads [TS]

◼   ► directly into a Batmobile that we have [TS]

◼   ► never seen yeah that's right before him [TS]

◼   ► that movie live one note which is the if [TS]

◼   ► I had to say there's one perfect shot in [TS]

◼   ► Batman it is probably my favorite shot [TS]

◼   ► the movie is when he comes through the [TS]

◼   ► skylight in the museum and the whole [TS]

◼   ► Cape is like fully now like like you see [TS]

◼   ► the whole Cape coming down i love that [TS]

◼   ► that's great and then the whole thing [TS]

◼   ► where he just sort of worth I think [TS]

◼   ► wordlessly um [TS]

◼   ► no just stands there and fires off as [TS]

◼   ► very a lot of lot of gadgets and these [TS]

◼   ► ones that ropes and then slides away and [TS]

◼   ► out the door and then they get into [TS]

◼   ► battle which has applied which is this [TS]

◼   ► wacky again wacky modular CarDekho [TS]

◼   ► high-tech Batmobile thing [TS]

◼   ► yeah where did you find the Batmobile in [TS]

◼   ► all versions for a Batman for decades [TS]

◼   ► like immediately the comics like oh yeah [TS]

◼   ► let's do that [TS]

◼   ► yeah when they had man the animated [TS]

◼   ► series oh no we're gonna look just like [TS]

◼   ► this movie and have that bat will be [TS]

◼   ► really until christian bale batman i [TS]

◼   ► guess where it's a little more it so [TS]

◼   ► it's it's a different wider kind of [TS]

◼   ► platform thing but yeah that's cool cool [TS]

◼   ► Batmobile huh cool when we said let's [TS]

◼   ► stop having cool cars have an ugly tank [TS]

◼   ► yep yeah i mean i really like the [TS]

◼   ► animated version but this would be my [TS]

◼   ► second favorite Batmobile so i mean i [TS]

◼   ► like that it does not look like any [TS]

◼   ► other car right it's it just looks crazy [TS]

◼   ► yeah he didn't soup something up now [TS]

◼   ► like this is a billion the whole way and [TS]

◼   ► it doesn't even in the backyard and it [TS]

◼   ► almost doesn't look like a car right [TS]

◼   ► like it looks more like like a weird [TS]

◼   ► shoe or something in a copper yeah [TS]

◼   ► that's good [TS]

◼   ► yeah it it's like out torpedo with wheel [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah it's a mash-up between the [TS]

◼   ► chrysler building an sr-71 but it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't look quite so good it looks [TS]

◼   ► great when it's still but when they're [TS]

◼   ► driving around with it i think that [TS]

◼   ► every out this suspension to tell we [TS]

◼   ► break down with it it's gonna be hard to [TS]

◼   ► turn that thing on the link [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah it's not just the Batmobile [TS]

◼   ► though they're there is the chase that [TS]

◼   ► they go through their there is one [TS]

◼   ► intersection that it goes through that I [TS]

◼   ► I'm not kidding you is the most fake [TS]

◼   ► looking set oh yeah I have never seen in [TS]

◼   ► a movie where they're driving through [TS]

◼   ► and it's like that is not a street that [TS]

◼   ► is not available in public that is that [TS]

◼   ► is that like that's a backlog but a lot [TS]

◼   ► of this movie and and like some of the [TS]

◼   ► street seems the parade to is the same [TS]

◼   ► way again [TS]

◼   ► where it is just super fake and like [TS]

◼   ► like minimal effort was made here the [TS]

◼   ► art direction for Gotham is great but [TS]

◼   ► like they have like two intersections [TS]

◼   ► right like they just did and I use them [TS]

◼   ► over and over [TS]

◼   ► and right like really go meet under that [TS]

◼   ► bridge again yes a parade and the press [TS]

◼   ► conferences and like you know that like [TS]

◼   ► the outside of City Hall and the outside [TS]

◼   ► of the like that movie theater like a [TS]

◼   ► Chrysler want me to build a block and [TS]

◼   ► that's able to block you can get away [TS]

◼   ► with that sort of thing on Star Trek [TS]

◼   ► cause also all corridors look the same [TS]

◼   ► right but this this soundstage is so [TS]

◼   ► distinctive not all your corridors can [TS]

◼   ► be Crime Alley it doesn't work I'm going [TS]

◼   ► to let us leave the beauty and without [TS]

◼   ► distracting everybody with my crackpot [TS]

◼   ► theory if people would like to hear my [TS]

◼   ► crackpot theory email me how are you [TS]

◼   ► you want some more email marketing or [TS]

◼   ► you can tweet at Mangia Mangia never [TS]

◼   ► actually quick and ask him for a [TS]

◼   ► crackpot theory so they get digging in [TS]

◼   ► an alley they get cotton ali-a Batman [TS]

◼   ► decides to flee with Vicki up by by [TS]

◼   ► firing his bat whatever-it-is rope thing [TS]

◼   ► up and asked her how much she weighs so [TS]

◼   ► that there's a wait joke that is made [TS]

◼   ► with i rolled my eyes as well especially [TS]

◼   ► you already had zip-lined with her like [TS]

◼   ► you know [TS]

◼   ► yeah I'm not your second you know this [TS]

◼   ► is not your first rodeo like yeah he [TS]

◼   ► should know the way we're making fat [TS]

◼   ► jokes about Kim Basinger really I know [TS]

◼   ► right [TS]

◼   ► this is not the most feminist movies [TS]

◼   ► yeah you don't say sharing like yes they [TS]

◼   ► loud cheering like 200 pounds of our [TS]

◼   ► chip is this the most feminist Batman [TS]

◼   ► movie you see let's dig deeper on this [TS]

◼   ► i would say it could be worse but it's [TS]

◼   ► not great [TS]

◼   ► mr. Drazen pieces now could this be what [TS]

◼   ► could be worse but the way joke it [TS]

◼   ► stands well you know like i said there [TS]

◼   ► are moments with Vicki failing I'm like [TS]

◼   ► alright that's good but yeah there are [TS]

◼   ► other things that are not but I want to [TS]

◼   ► talk about I want to talk about the [TS]

◼   ► fights in the alley because there are a [TS]

◼   ► whole bunch of Joker's henchmen who come [TS]

◼   ► to fight Batman in the alley and they're [TS]

◼   ► like there's like a fighter guy and then [TS]

◼   ► there's like a ninja and Tony to answer [TS]

◼   ► your question in the in the late [TS]

◼   ► eighties in Gotham City [TS]

◼   ► did we have a lot of ninjas in the [TS]

◼   ► actual answers oh god yes yes there were [TS]

◼   ► so many ninjas and there are some here [TS]

◼   ► some of the henchmen turned out to be [TS]

◼   ► ninjas everything I know about New York [TS]

◼   ► City is formed from the Ninja Turtles [TS]

◼   ► movie not the michael bay 1 and the [TS]

◼   ► Warriors so i see i have no problems [TS]

◼   ► with this scene so you're missing humble [TS]

◼   ► and rocks which is any key component it [TS]

◼   ► has the whole alpine part of New York [TS]

◼   ► City its means and and here we see one [TS]

◼   ► of the biggest limitations of this movie [TS]

◼   ► that I never noticed back in 1989 but in [TS]

◼   ► the days of the Marvel Cinematic [TS]

◼   ► Universe i'm totally scene which is your [TS]

◼   ► hero cannot move ya soon so damn big [TS]

◼   ► these these fight scenes probably looked [TS]

◼   ► great when we have nothing to compare [TS]

◼   ► them to but he they're not moving you're [TS]

◼   ► not moving [TS]

◼   ► although the bad guys bad guys moving in [TS]

◼   ► Batman like either steps out of the way [TS]

◼   ► or just punches them because that's [TS]

◼   ► about all he could I mean he gets shot [TS]

◼   ► several times and I guess he's just [TS]

◼   ► tough enough that they bounce often i [TS]

◼   ► mean i can remember i am NOT approaching [TS]

◼   ► this movie with the level of nostalgia [TS]

◼   ► that the rest of the team here is and [TS]

◼   ► yeah all these action sequences fall [TS]

◼   ► pretty yes you're younger than us [TS]

◼   ► yeah there's a scene where you can tell [TS]

◼   ► what they wrote up was Batman beat up [TS]

◼   ► all the thugs and in the background that [TS]

◼   ► Joker dances with Vicki fail and it [TS]

◼   ► looks great down and boy takes a long [TS]

◼   ► time to beat up those thugs he can't [TS]

◼   ► even bend your waist plus the books did [TS]

◼   ► the usual thing and they went at a one [TS]

◼   ► or two at a time [TS]

◼   ► well it's sorted they're simple learning [TS]

◼   ► center rules never thinks to swarm [TS]

◼   ► answer one of them just falls through [TS]

◼   ► the floor without touching him huh [TS]

◼   ► that's the Batman that good so I mean [TS]

◼   ► for me there's three pillars [TS]

◼   ► Batman right okay tell me more alright [TS]

◼   ► this is good [TS]

◼   ► I mean we're getting some church a [TS]

◼   ► Batman stuff going on here this good [TS]

◼   ► ever know three pillars of Batman you [TS]

◼   ► didn't stop me so here I go [TS]

◼   ► gadgets detective work and you know [TS]

◼   ► ninja skills this movie realize pretty [TS]

◼   ► heavily on one pillar of Batman I i [TS]

◼   ► would prefer to see a little bit more of [TS]

◼   ► an even distribution across the three [TS]

◼   ► pillars is what I'm saying [TS]

◼   ► so are you saying you want a more [TS]

◼   ► holistic but i want ya i want a more [TS]

◼   ► complete Batman if you are looking to [TS]

◼   ► become think how can you be a more [TS]

◼   ► complete Batman right to modify ashley [TS]

◼   ► and i'll forward that to me [TS]

◼   ► possibly with some editorializing yeah [TS]

◼   ► mmm yeah the the suit this i think the [TS]

◼   ► suit looks great but he can't handing [TS]

◼   ► them know well it looks great when he's [TS]

◼   ► not moving in which is most of the time [TS]

◼   ► ready kazi and burton thought anything [TS]

◼   ► else didn't look threatening enough and [TS]

◼   ► see you know looking threatening is not [TS]

◼   ► the the key thing with Batman he's got [TS]

◼   ► to be able to move [TS]

◼   ► yeah but one thing you think of when you [TS]

◼   ► think of bats is a mobility I I do [TS]

◼   ► really like the scene that comes up here [TS]

◼   ► when they're riding back to the Batcave [TS]

◼   ► in the Batmobile and kim basinger starts [TS]

◼   ► to look at him and his space and all [TS]

◼   ► that he turns on the light [TS]

◼   ► yes and it shines in her face so she [TS]

◼   ► can't see and she kind of raises her [TS]

◼   ► hand and that and the the score comes up [TS]

◼   ► and they blast through this you know [TS]

◼   ► through the the down that country road [TS]

◼   ► and into the hidden entryway to the [TS]

◼   ► Batcave i love that whole thing that's [TS]

◼   ► like super mystery Batman he's not going [TS]

◼   ► to let you look at his head his mouth [TS]

◼   ► and chin to figure out who is there's a [TS]

◼   ► light he's got to stop people from doing [TS]

◼   ► that if they if he takes a passenger on [TS]

◼   ► in the Batcave he keeps turning his head [TS]

◼   ► to keep himself shadow tushy gaseum yeah [TS]

◼   ► it's a superhero actually worried about [TS]

◼   ► whether or not people can see his face [TS]

◼   ► yes as opposed to the the as opposed to [TS]

◼   ► Batman Returns which we'll get to in a [TS]

◼   ► minute or any of your movie spider-man [TS]

◼   ► these days it could be that mask in [TS]

◼   ► media and the drop of a hat [TS]

◼   ► yeah hot [TS]

◼   ► it is so I romantic comedy starts [TS]

◼   ► suddenly there's a there's a whole plot [TS]

◼   ► where Bruce is trying to tell her that I [TS]

◼   ► that he's Batman he's gonna admit it [TS]

◼   ► he's gonna let let let that loose [TS]

◼   ► except he can't do it and and uh she [TS]

◼   ► says he's a jerk and then and then it [TS]

◼   ► says so shut up and he pushes her down [TS]

◼   ► which I'm like yeah that's not actually [TS]

◼   ► that cool but ok it's the eighties it's [TS]

◼   ► a romantic comedy alright and then he's [TS]

◼   ► he struggles to get things out and she [TS]

◼   ► thinks he's married but he's trying to [TS]

◼   ► admit and in fact would probably have [TS]

◼   ► said on that man at some point if the [TS]

◼   ► Joker doesn't knock on the door and then [TS]

◼   ► our romantic comedy becomes a sort of [TS]

◼   ► weird romantic comedy crime tension [TS]

◼   ► thing [TS]

◼   ► NAA source i will cite later says that [TS]

◼   ► this was kind of any impactors improv [TS]

◼   ► moment in the movie and it just doesn't [TS]

◼   ► fit by this point Robert will have been [TS]

◼   ► off the screen for a good 30 40 minutes [TS]

◼   ► and he's not coming [TS]

◼   ► yeah he's not it was a very good 32 [TS]

◼   ► different hits just a different movie in [TS]

◼   ► this in this part there's that I mean [TS]

◼   ► there's some nice bits in here uh the [TS]

◼   ► the Bruce Wayne when he comes in he says [TS]

◼   ► he comments on our honor apart right [TS]

◼   ► nice apartment right Monty nice place [TS]

◼   ► lots of space and then so when the Joker [TS]

◼   ► comes in he says nice place lots of [TS]

◼   ► space and like they say the same things [TS]

◼   ► that was that was kinda funny but you [TS]

◼   ► know Bruce Wayne provokes the Joker come [TS]

◼   ► on let's get nuts [TS]

◼   ► I don't really understand why he does [TS]

◼   ► that [TS]

◼   ► it seems weird is the plan is for him to [TS]

◼   ► be shot [TS]

◼   ► we're right where he has the little [TS]

◼   ► metal tray so that he doesn't die [TS]

◼   ► I don't know it is a little coincidental [TS]

◼   ► yeah I I don't understand why this scene [TS]

◼   ► is the way it is because because if [TS]

◼   ► anyone if the Joker is going to shoot [TS]

◼   ► anyone anywhere [TS]

◼   ► why would he aim for the heart he would [TS]

◼   ► do like various parts of the body i want [TS]

◼   ► you twitch and you know yet he would [TS]

◼   ► name you and make you hurt until you're [TS]

◼   ► coming man [TS]

◼   ► it's Chinatown it's trying to town shake [TS]

◼   ► at my only explanation and it's not a [TS]

◼   ► good one [TS]

◼   ► is the idea that that Bruce Wayne is [TS]

◼   ► trying to be chivalrous and by time to [TS]

◼   ► figure this out [TS]

◼   ► yeah and if you keep intention on [TS]

◼   ► himself and not Vicki less likely that [TS]

◼   ► she's going to get her that but like I [TS]

◼   ► said that still weak as water and it's a [TS]

◼   ► really strange scene and it's because [TS]

◼   ► they need the Joker to shoot Bruce there [TS]

◼   ► so that he can say the dance with the [TS]

◼   ► devil line [TS]

◼   ► yeah which he always knows when he kills [TS]

◼   ► people accept all those other times when [TS]

◼   ► he doesn't say we kill people have a [TS]

◼   ► right to killed several people by this [TS]

◼   ► one saat yeah also that one time he said [TS]

◼   ► it and pointed the gun to get in and [TS]

◼   ► didn't didn't do it so you know yet but [TS]

◼   ► he always telling you always done if you [TS]

◼   ► missed it was being prepared [TS]

◼   ► ok so he's not the most consistent guys [TS]

◼   ► now I'm just I'm just grumbling about [TS]

◼   ► that plot point so when he says that [TS]

◼   ► though Michael Keaton does reaction that [TS]

◼   ► is kind of a cool moment [TS]

◼   ► speaking of the Joker's a brilliant [TS]

◼   ► plans let's talk about his latest [TS]

◼   ► brilliant plan which is he's gonna have [TS]

◼   ► a parade where he's going to drop 20 [TS]

◼   ► million in cash on the crowd for the [TS]

◼   ► party [TS]

◼   ► that's the a4 everything party or [TS]

◼   ► whatever and uh it's uh it's weird [TS]

◼   ► because very long [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah because first off first of its [TS]

◼   ► kind of unclear about what's going on [TS]

◼   ► and and the beginning again i'm going to [TS]

◼   ► point out at the beginning of that scene [TS]

◼   ► when the parade get started there's like [TS]

◼   ► seven people there for the citywide raid [TS]

◼   ► with 20 million catch seven people [TS]

◼   ► no cops the same intersection that we've [TS]

◼   ► seen several times before and a very [TS]

◼   ► small like two lane street [TS]

◼   ► yeah these huge budgets were not spend [TS]

◼   ► on extras now I which is technically got [TS]

◼   ► it all yeah i mean when we jump ahead to [TS]

◼   ► Batman Returns there's not that many [TS]

◼   ► people at that tree lighting so well you [TS]

◼   ► know what every year so not watch it at [TS]

◼   ► home from on television television yeah [TS]

◼   ► there's more prints in the in the parade [TS]

◼   ► those who get we get a little bit like [TS]

◼   ► that and i actually was reminded in the [TS]

◼   ► first sam raimi spider-man movie they [TS]

◼   ► have the hooray for everything festival [TS]

◼   ► where the green goblin attacks people [TS]

◼   ► and there's balloons and stuff and this [TS]

◼   ► is it's very much the same scene as this [TS]

◼   ► except of course that actually is like [TS]

◼   ► in Times Square and has lots of people [TS]

◼   ► you know computer-generated people but [TS]

◼   ► lots of people and i was i was reminded [TS]

◼   ► of that while watching this [TS]

◼   ► this is the the low budget version where [TS]

◼   ► they have one block and you know 20 [TS]

◼   ► extra I wondered how much they spent on [TS]

◼   ► the sequence where Batman is angry and [TS]

◼   ► he drives his car to the chemical plant [TS]

◼   ► blows everything up because i thought [TS]

◼   ► yeah that seems expensive and didn't [TS]

◼   ► have much [TS]

◼   ► yeah just rolls rolls the Batmobile and [TS]

◼   ► drop some bombs blows up access [TS]

◼   ► chemicals and and drives off like yay [TS]

◼   ► take that chemical plants the movie did [TS]

◼   ► not have enough explosions so think it's [TS]

◼   ► a good thing nobody was in there [TS]

◼   ► yep so robert wall makes this triumphant [TS]

◼   ► reappearance here Monty you're going to [TS]

◼   ► roberts he's totally doing what of [TS]

◼   ► reporter at an event would do which is [TS]

◼   ► he tells the photographer take pictures [TS]

◼   ► that expect funny good good tip take for [TS]

◼   ► pictures and then he writes a headline [TS]

◼   ► out loud as he's taking pictures [TS]

◼   ► Gotham's greed this is not how [TS]

◼   ► journalism works this is not water [TS]

◼   ► reporter does but at least robert [TS]

◼   ► wallace back he knows the idea of [TS]

◼   ► journalism there's been quite a little [TS]

◼   ► earlier where he yells copy and times [TS]

◼   ► completely unprepared for the kid right [TS]

◼   ► next to say yes sir [TS]

◼   ► don't have any copy for that it [TS]

◼   ► don't have any copy for that it [TS]

◼   ► if you haven't written a word liar [TS]

◼   ► anyway there's a bit there's a bad plane [TS]

◼   ► yeah Jason Jason that nice movie you got [TS]

◼   ► here I like the Batmobile but we need to [TS]

◼   ► sell to toys [TS]

◼   ► how can you help me out what if what if [TS]

◼   ► we have a bad plane that looks like the [TS]

◼   ► Batman logo and he flies in front of the [TS]

◼   ► Moon thereby creating a batman logo [TS]

◼   ► okay that sounds great however i've only [TS]

◼   ► got about eight bucks for the budget so [TS]

◼   ► you can never have that appear next to [TS]

◼   ► any actual actors because we're going to [TS]

◼   ► make maybe like have you make a model of [TS]

◼   ► it is that ok what we're going to do is [TS]

◼   ► we're going to make a bad plane model [TS]

◼   ► that's going to fly around and then [TS]

◼   ► we're going to have a thing that we put [TS]

◼   ► on like a golf cart that we dragged [TS]

◼   ► along r1 street and and and what we'll [TS]

◼   ► have is the bad plane will just get shot [TS]

◼   ► by a gun and and crash and again another [TS]

◼   ► young about apparently the original [TS]

◼   ► script called for the choker to have a [TS]

◼   ► tank to shoot the bad play down and then [TS]

◼   ► for budgetary reasons his tank is [TS]

◼   ► replaced with a gun home a gun while [TS]

◼   ► somewhere in here is the scene that is [TS]

◼   ► most tim burton e in the movie to me [TS]

◼   ► which is when the plane grabs all the [TS]

◼   ► balloons and flies away [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah those balloons I'm positive are [TS]

◼   ► based on the same sketches that led to [TS]

◼   ► nightmare before christmas know those [TS]

◼   ► blues are the same toys that are under [TS]

◼   ► trees because those more than anything [TS]

◼   ► else the movie say hi I'm Tim Burton I [TS]

◼   ► like stuff that looks like this [TS]