00:00:00 ◼ ► that's one of the amazing things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► the making of empire strikes back book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► the digital version has a bunch of audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► something like I'm glad somebody record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/7">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► having actual conversations about making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► this movie dinner at the people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/11">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► recollections that i talked to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/12">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► guess what we've got audio to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/14">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► 15 minutes of audio about this one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/16">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► and it's great to hear even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/18">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► quality is terrible because it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/19">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► eighties it's true many things ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/21">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► not Empire Strikes Back that was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► ease and it was great for me in kc ya so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/25">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► young i feel like i have spoken to Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/30">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► and John both extremely recently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► also not in weeks because we saw each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► alright some with that and and yet at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► the same time we haven't we haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/45">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► we haven't had the opportunity to truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► and truly nerd out for a couple weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/48">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► computer stuff we're all together like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/53">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► everyone else did not want to hear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► everything it was there just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► rolling their eyes and trying to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► yeah they effectively said with body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► language save it for the show and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► happy birthday John siracusa a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► bit late at this point it is four days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► ago now but a happy birthday you are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► answer to what is what is the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► phrasing the answer to life the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► yeah pretty much fair enough right I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► we have any pre-show banter we just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► to go straight to follow and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► fair enough alright let's talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► naked robotic macbook pro mr. siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/91">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► the book is said with not an ounce of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► pretty neat at this if someone had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/101">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► posted this as a joke a couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► I think we all would have had a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► yep the first time i saw this i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► it was a joke and I was like it some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► people first like I guess somebody has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► yeah but you know it is apparently a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► this is from owc I friends and other you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► see other world computing this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► product could you can't buy it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► they've just sort of correct announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/127">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► if you take your new slim for USB port a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/131">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► macbook pro that we talked about at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► length on the show and you sit on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► an aluminum rectangle that's the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► size and shape has the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/145">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► macbook pro making your very slim 2016 / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► 2017 model macbook pro the thickness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/153">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► 2012 macbook pro and in the process it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► gives you a bunch of extra ports on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► side you get USB type a ports you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► ethernet you get an SD card slot you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► another USBC far as i can tell you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► get any additional battery it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► it does clean also four terabytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► additional things to come like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► haven't haven't revealed all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► it's going to do so right away I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► some technical questions about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► oh yes I first how does it work because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► I expected it to plug into the USB sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► ports on the side because you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► can do that like the Thunderbolts last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► year's pc forth if you you can plug for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► example a thunderbolt three dock into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/194">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► there and on that document have an SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► card port and USB ports and storage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► you know you can you can do all that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► know you can do it but you have to plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► into one of those ports and the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► they have show both sides of this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► with all four of the Thunderbolt three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► ports on the side of this macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► completely open so that's mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► no I don't think it's mysterious at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► I I mean I understand what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► but I will bet you a gazillion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► that if you're looking at the images of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► the two sides so they're showing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► right-hand side of it but it's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► left-hand side of the image and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► left-hand side on the right-hand side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/231">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► the image so the the right side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► dock where the SD card is there's a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► seaport directly under one of the four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/237">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► onboard USB seaports it's hard to paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► a word picture about this but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/245">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► bet you anything work they're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► one of those little stubby yeah USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► cables right there it'll be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► room you remember the daughter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► daughter board video cards from PCs way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► back in the day he would go you would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► from your 2d car doesn't remember yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► you go from the PGA from your 2d card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► your 3d card and then vga from your 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► card out to your monitor and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► have these little like setup vga cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► it was barbaric but i'm going to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► even all the reference back in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► days when they had scuzzy as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► external connector for hard drives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► such and you would buy hard drives that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► fit exactly underneath the classic Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► shape so you could stack them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► would be exactly the size of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► base of like a mac plus r5 to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► whatever I and since you would stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► them each one would be a different hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► drive and you need to daisy chain them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► together in typical see passion one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► would have a terminator then you go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► 12 they made c-shaped brackets that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► not cables at all of our exact brackets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► you know it's a single manufacturer with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► this album like jasmine or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► connect one drive to the one right above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► it exactly matching these gigantic 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► scuzzy connectors so not a cable at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► but a very stiff bracket thing i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/314">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► imagine that as well but they don't show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► correction that is fair well and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► these pictures should be taken with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► huge array of salt because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► even stated these are rendering these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► are not the final product in fact when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► first looked at this page maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► an hour before that macrumors articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► posted these exact pictures in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► ohdeedoh.com / DC on that page these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► exact pictures the two sides were blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/342">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► except for one that this the one single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► USBC import all like the LA and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► carburetor was there but all the USBA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► and ethernet port you see right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► were not there like 12 hours ago so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► really like this is a work in progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► like I learn more from the macrumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► post about it than I did from their page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► so clearly this is still in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/361">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► available in 2017 but i don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/366">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► nor had they listed price or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► but I mean it's basically yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► docking station that happens to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► same shape as the macbook pro so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► sit on top of it but when i first saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► the these pictures without seeing macros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► article when I first saw the pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/384">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► and it got almost no information i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► assumed that what they were doing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► basically offering a service where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► put to them and they would like unscrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/392">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► semi-permanently attach this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► if they were doing that then they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► maybe do something like give a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/401">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► whatever kind of internal connections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/405">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► that are present if any i honestly would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► be surprised if there are many if any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► but yeah i was thinking where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► connected internally but you can do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► bigger battery with external to please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/416">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► remember that USBC port is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► charging port works share this smart the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► smartphone you know iphone case or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► whatever examiner is but anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► isn't what this is as far as we can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► from the very little information we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/427">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► but either way let's so basically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► sounds like it it almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► doesn't offer any additional battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► power that's the only real reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► would see for for wanting to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/435">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► permanently to your macbook or worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► about ya we don't know because they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► more stuff is coming and if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/444">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► the stuff that's in there obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► there has to be more because the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► they have in their would not take up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► that space so i guess a good to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► filled air but if you're gonna buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► batteries like there's not room making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► absolutely think we're not exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► a really good keyboard you can reach now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► so I you know it will see when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/461">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► thing actually provides a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► launches but i don't think the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/467">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► no way you can make me use that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► the fact is that the the macbook pro as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► it is is almost pretty good and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/480">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► pushes it so far in the other direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► that it's like ok this like you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► something that's almost pretty good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► has mediocre battery life and a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► keyboard into something that is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► having mediocre better life and pad kee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► forward that is just like bigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► heavier to add a what is really a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► small handful of of capabilities so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► I don't see why people would want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► honestly but somebody might I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/510">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► well remember market that you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/514">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► macbook pro unless you have asked unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► you have an SD card slot so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/520">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► the macbook pro you must have this doc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/524">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► otherwise it's impossible but honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/526">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► so this so it in the in the massive span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► of time since we've last spoken of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► podcast I i did you know we traveled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/534">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► Christmas stuff and I have my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► there and there was one point in which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► had I had brought some every year making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► Christmas video and former from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► previous Christmases photos and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► time-lapse tip is all the work she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► all the credit anyway I I bring with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► on my laptop copies of all the video so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► that way when we get there after showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► everybody we can give everybody their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► own copy on the thumb drives that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► yeah so one of the members has an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► one has a laptop and one has a thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► drive and so this is ok that's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/569">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► put the wolf on the boat needs like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► this crazy things that happened we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► the water on with the chicken rice like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► how do we get how do we get these files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► I'm sitting there on the couch with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► new macbook and first my father-in-law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► brings down the the Lightning card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► reader adapter with an SD card in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► that use iPads you put on here I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► the lighting and look at the SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► and then like my brother and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► you know that and I get handed this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► USB key like this USB thumb drive thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► no I guess I get a dongle for that Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/605">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► upstairs get the dongle is like and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► wasn't it wasn't I didn't own the dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► and it wasn't that I didn't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► the dongle like technically with me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/615">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► the trip but it was upstairs and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► downstairs on a soft capture it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► Christmas there there's just gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/620">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► so many of these times with these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► macbook pros we're like even if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► minor inconvenience it still makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► regret the limitations of this computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► in use in practice I i bet more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/633">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► estimated by whatever data a reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► make this decision to to admit all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► useful stuff from this computer and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► there there are so many things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► that are nice like it like every you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► know every year we go to say we go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/648">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► the same place my in-laws place and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► every year I i have to plug in my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► and every year I i had this weird layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/653">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► where to reach the left side of where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► the charging port was the magsafe was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► have to kind of lean laptop in a strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► way overnight when it's charging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► this year I could use the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► which was really helpful and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► going to be time but that were it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► to have charger in your side like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► would be great right so you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► isn't all bad and it was also really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► nice to have this thing be lighter as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► was carrying it around the house and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► know doing you know basic stuff i gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► it was nice having it lighter so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► appreciate those things I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► some of the progress boy had not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► not having the SD card reader and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► and at least one USB a port has already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► bitten me like it more than once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► these like little tiny like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► razor blade cut ways i just i just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► doesn't leave me with a good agent about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► this laptop overall so I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► this product / turns out to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► market reveal some interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► we've talked about before but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► the first is this is an extreme case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► negative robotic or thing applies to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► mac which we talked about before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/721">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► idea that if you just provide the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► amount of functionality and let people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► add stuff on top of that they might want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► so with the iphone it's like we give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► the skinny little metal thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/731">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► want and if you want extra battery or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► you want more protection or you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► want a place to put your credit cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► you want a rubbery outside or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► everyone else can bring to it whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► they want you want to be different color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► a different texture whatever you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/744">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► possible with the people who want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► really small thing have a really small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► different every one can apply visit we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/752">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► made a choice and add the big battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► that people want the skinny ones can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► happen so on and so forth so this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► to make a robotic macbook pro if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► want a bunch of ports you can slap it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► the end and we're at all the past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► all the past time to talk about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► like yeah but if you add on the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► because you have to have you know phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► motherboard battery case you know inner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/772">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► case battery outer case like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► extra layering requiring them both to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► products in and of themselves the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► is a product and the phone is a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► that they have their own walls and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► combination of all the walls is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► total thickness it makes them bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/788">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► than if you said if you just took that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► a battery that's in this battery case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► and put it inside the phone it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/793">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► be a stick so here we have a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► example that these ports that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► adding if Apple had put these inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► macbook pro it would be thicker but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► would not be this thing I mean you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/802">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► at the ethernet port is stacked up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► the USBC port above it like because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► can't they can't add you know they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► violate the integrity of the case so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/810">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► thickness of the case and then what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► have left to put their ports on is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/816">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► anything they can put below that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► can't combine them so this does show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► you know very graphic illustration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► the highlight of the naked robotic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► strategies that if you do add stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► will always necessarily be bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/828">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► it was built in and the second thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► think is that I don't know if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► just someone making estimation or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► they say it in the copy as a real thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► but i believe that they're saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► makes your 2016 / 20 17 macbook pro the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/838">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► same thickness as the 2012 model though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► we all look at this it looks like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► that comic illustration of the powerbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► g5 together that oh yes photoshop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► looks like it's just comically thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► like it's like the size of a dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► or phone book I don't even know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► it's a really thick book looks it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► huge and yet this was the thickness of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► product that apple sold not too long ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► 2012 mac pro the people still haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► like and often they say I'm sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► with my 2012 macbook pro because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► got all the parts i wanted whatever this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/874">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► I think illustrates what I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► talked about and that you know that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► hypocritical posta long ago about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► complaining that the imac was getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► too skinny when they took away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► optical drive made it super skinny it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► like who the hell needs a super-skinny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► transferred iphone to say like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► to go thinner year after year because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► even though from year-to-year the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► sacrifice doesn't make that much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► difference if they go what so it's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► millimeters sticker multiply that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► year after year after year and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► find yourself far from where you started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► so in 2012 then shaving no millimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► off 2013 another millimeter often 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► another note it seems like what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► dinner in a way that i can even detect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► and I'm not getting any gains from but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► like you said Marko you appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► the lightness even just compared to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► previous model which wasn't that old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► the the you-know-what you what it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► be like if you upgraded from a 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/926">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► model this and here we have a rewind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► button to go back to what it was like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► 2012 and now you can't go back now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► I can't go back that far i don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► how many points you have it is too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► and just too heavy i know now that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► i I can't go back to that again so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► is something to be said for apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► relentless pursuit of thinness I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► inflection point like my the the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/949">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► fluttered to the ground and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/954">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► have to worry about cracking because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► one worries about dropping their credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► card around cracking it because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► freaking thin we haven't we haven't got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► there not even close but this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► illustration and our general discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► with it this product and are discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► but i think it is really hammers home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► that distend this thing even though we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/971">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► the upsides aren't just academic like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► once you become accustomed to it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► that thin we wanted to be that thin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► also maybe have an SD card slot which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► the way they could totally do bispo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► never or add two millimeters that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► you know we're willing to bargain a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/988">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► millimeter to but none of us want to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► you know half an inch to this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► because we just can't go back to that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► the way I can't let this go without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► pointing out that this ancient thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► 2012 macbook pro that they're comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► this to was sold in the form of the 101 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► yeah an optical drive funny remind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► ya know what I mean you're right like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► love the 2012 retina macbook for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► the 15-inch retina it's so so nice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► such an overall awesome machine but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► that I've had this new one for one month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► the old one which i still have my closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► haven't sold it yet i look at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► particular so often and like it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► ancient and it feels like a big heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► awkward lunch tray even though like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► month ago I was like this is fine this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► is getting smaller like it really is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► about what you're accustomed to and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► soon as you get a customer's new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► even though the difference is in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► weight and thickness is not tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► it is a savings that is noticeable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► as soon as you start using it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► hard to ever go back and to have it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► I mean heck even the keyboard i hate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► new one but I use the killer the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► like this is kinda mushy like that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► really i'm completely ruined i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► hate the new one keyboard wide but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► like and honestly i think i would hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► the new keyboard a lot less if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► would give me back to gaps above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► left and right arrow keys that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► bitten me more than any other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► about this keyboard i got the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► switches I still don't like but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► gotten used to escape I have mapped to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► transition the shaping of those arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► keys and not having a little gaps above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► left and right the way they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► for years that keeps messing me up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► much because I can no longer orient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► reliably and this has it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► frequently in use and I didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► it until I don't use one of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► for a while but wow that is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► is a big change but yeah when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► with the old one it's like well I died I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► don't want even though it is in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► ways better you use the the quote mushy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► keyboard and you see that the relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► tiny little you know quaint little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► trackpad on there like wow this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► using a powerbook and by comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► it's the new thing really does feel so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► much newer and more modern even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► this is one of the dangers of using iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► are growing up with iOS and I watch my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► son he's most of the one is the school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► assignments like these google docs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► your rights school papers and stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► it which is a pretty good system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► terms of putting you know teachers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► peers you know comment on and see if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► work anyway because he's a child of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► and a child of the post PCH watching him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► try to use a word processor on a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► just makes me want to tear my hair all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► all of his cursor movement he does with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► the mouse and I like see these keys on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► the keyboard with the arrows on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► I swear to you they will move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► insertion point one character and easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► than you finding where the mouse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► steering you know this is not good with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► the mouse to the steering your cursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► over moving it over to get as like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► use the matter you don't even say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► option or command arrows just plain use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► the arrow keys like it is so much faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1188">TS</a>]
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00:19:57 ◼ ► editing on iOS four you have to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► your stupid finger down you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1199">TS</a>]
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00:21:33 ◼ ► on pros leaving the mac apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► somebody has done a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► pulling and research about whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► not designers would ever consider motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► designer specifically whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► means would you ever consider switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► to a pc yes 42-percent maybe forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► percent no eighteen percent that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► just bit to reinforce the idea was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► said last show that like professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► users whose job is to do like motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► graphics they're not mac users their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► motion graphic designers right this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► what they do they I think this means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► you know like basically video effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► are transitions during the news or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► whatever I think that's what this means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► is what this website is about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► called school of motion calm so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► entirely a professional website for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► it's not about Max it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► computers not about what to use do for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► living it's like I want to do this for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► living and then they talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► tools that they use so they want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► they don't necessarily care about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► particular something the survey was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► would you consider switching to be so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► shows that in general the bent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► sites like we mostly use macs to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► available on the mac to do it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► motion i think is still for sale anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► would you consider switching to be c a2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► percent are either yes or maybe only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► eighteen percent say no because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► bottom line is it's like well if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► the way I have to go to do motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► graphics i will do it because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► profession biggest the computer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► like doesn't let them do they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► they're gonna change platform so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► know and again like I said on the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► show it doesn't mean that every company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► tries to make that transition will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► successful it's very you know disruptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► to have to buy all new hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► learn new programs and buy new licenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► and deal with you know file formats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► legacy date and all the stuff but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► general if the company doesn't serve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► professional market like that the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► will switch very quickly because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► market is not sentimental individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► people may be sentimental even whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► companies can be sentimental but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► market in terms of I need a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► people to do jobs x4 me with computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► is not sentimental and if you don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► the job someone else will and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► alright so the next item in the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► it says casey and marcos homework and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► think I can speak for Marco and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► well maybe that I don't remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► might be just me but I can speak for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► marketing saying I didn't do my homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► so i suppose what was I supposed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► been doing that could always speak for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► me Casey right that part I was confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► it was the remembering part i wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► sure about i also don't remember what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► the homework was I felt bad because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► was listening back to the show well two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► people were tweeting at us like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► homework and and at that point I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► forgotten what I had said designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► you for homework but I remember doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► but I did it mostly as a joke because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► are we know that you have time to hunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► homework so when I was listening back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► the show as i do i was reminded of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► the homework was but listeners may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► their new listeners say something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► that you're going to actually do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► helper a remember with homework 1 i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► gonna be come to the show ready to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► yeah don't work was the idea of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► to say trying to figure out how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► would distinguish between a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► where the world is moving on from PCs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► and we are just being left behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► because we were dinosaurs or a situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► where Apple especially abandoning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► mac market even though the early concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► of of a pc style computer has many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► years to go and apples making a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► and the idea from the perspective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► someone who loves Mack those can both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► what might you look for what how what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► might look for from the inside to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► distinguish those two situations what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► I'd like is there something because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► feel the same and look the same but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► there some kind of thing you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► to say okay well if it was the case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► we were being left behind as dinosaurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► we would see this but if it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► that Apple's actually making a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► is there anything we can look for to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► us know which those two things aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► couldn't think of anything on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► and so I signed his homework and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► probably forgot about what I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► suppose you have any but interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► not really i mean i don't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► what the difference there is I want what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► I want if Apple's not gonna provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► yeah no I mean it's true i must say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► don't you understand why i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► interesting too because i am interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► in whether it's the most difficult to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► that did you know you care deeply about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► but it makes you kind of an enemy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► progress if you know you know if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► whatever the the buggy whip sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► wherever it's like you know or skc was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► saying the stick shift thing where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► you know are you are you using your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► influence to actually stop the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► from coming or are you right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► not actually the future and really apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► just doing something dumb and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► makes a difference because i don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► to to use all my power and influence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► arguing skills to try to hold back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► progress right so i would like to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► if i am not that I'm not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► upset about it but I would like to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► if I am actually the enemy of progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► here by clinging to the idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► personal computer right and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► interested in being able to determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► what the situation is now I i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► i'm not particularly strongly on either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► side of this I I don't think this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► me personally the situation and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► Marco doesn't care but i think it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► think it's a thing worth considering for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► all I'm not just for their you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► yeah New York in the mac things but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► all things of this type especially as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► very often what you really don't want is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► for things to be different than the then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► you're used to and it's very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► decide that your desire did not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► things change trumps everything else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► that's not you know i'm up i believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► progress and I constantly want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► sure that I am NOT slowly shifting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► the opposite side of progress because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► when you see it from the outside you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► somebody who isn't an obvious enemy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► it's a pitiable situation and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► well you know i think it's it's somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► useful to look around to see like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► right I have these like opinions on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► the types of work that I do the types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► problems that i need to solve how these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► things should or need to be done you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► know obviously one of the biggest things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► you could say is we'll look around other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► people of similar problems are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► insisted on the same requirements are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► days are they doing things that way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► oh and you didn't and they are now get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► along just fine without the like doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► the same kinds of things that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► to do but in in in the new you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► quote progress way you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► everything and looking around you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► it's hard for people to have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► good data on like you know what a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► people doing because you know mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► just a little while I look around and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► see like the other people in my office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► are doing this or my parents are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► this or my kids are doing this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► whatever you could look at it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► you have a few friends you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► but like most people have a pretty small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► sample group they can draw from for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► kind of analysis but I think sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► you know I i think if you if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► look around you can see like am I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► last person doing this this way you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► like that then that's that's probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► sign that you are on the wrong side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► things but if there's still like if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► way if what you are defending is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► done by what seems like the majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► people who do that kind of thing then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► you might still be wrong like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► you might be at the very beginning of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► wave and just everyone else hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► realized it yet either but chances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► you're probably at least a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► probably on the right side of that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► you know it might be something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► really forward-looking that everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► missing but that doesn't happen very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► everyone thinks that happens a lot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► it doesn't happen very often in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► I was actually having an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► conversation with a friend of mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► earlier earlier tonight about whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► olee he said to me something I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► was very interesting and he said the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► desktop os's are solved problem and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► think he was being a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► dramatics right word but he was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► playing up his point of view a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► bit right to make a point but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► saying you know desktop OS is our solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► problems and and at first I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► what's no God no what are you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► about but as I thought about it I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► still disagree with him and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► think he was just making a point to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► I understand where he's coming from in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► that if you look at what we want from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► desktop OS and and he asked me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► actually in but I said to him was I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► wanted not to be ignored man like i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► want progress but if you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► there's been progress like Siri doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► really do anything for me on the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► but that's progress that's a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► and that's just a single data point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► it's an example of things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► happening everyone has been a moaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► lately about how messages hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► touched on Sierra that's just not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► like the the rich previews or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► rephrase it where for example you paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► a link to a tweet and you see the tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► in in the messages window like granted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► wish i had sticker support in Sierra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► I don't know that I would use it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► often but i just wish i had the support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► for right but even something as are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► arguably silly as rich previews and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► messages makes a world of difference and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► that's progress and so to me I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► just not even necessarily bringing iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► and into mac OS but just having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► improvement that's all I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► from a desktop OS right now into that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► my friends kind of write that in a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► way it's kind of a solved problem now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► the next breath I'll tell you what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► really a small problem with the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► bar this is brand new paradigm that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► came out we don't really know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► doing with that so obviously this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► very shaky argument but when you compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► that to iOS where there's plenty of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► left to be done certainly iOS is in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► ways the more interesting platform now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► not necessarily saying interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► i'm not saying interesting to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► because personally I still like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► i still prefer the mac we went over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► either last episode last episode before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► but there's a lot more progress to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► made and I look at people like Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► Brooks I look at the teaching and I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► everything in their jobs or nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► everything on iOS devices and I come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► kind of what John was saying a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► that's telling everyone to get off there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► get off my lawn like am I the one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► really holding on to the past and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► not saying that is the case but I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► definitely wandering into more directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► answer Jon's question how do we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► which one of these it is i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► but right now i can tell you that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► seems to me like there are some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► direct ways to accomplish things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► mac and i can think of a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► of top my head but but there you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► accomplish a lot of things on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► directly where in iOS you need to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► daisy chain 7 different apps to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► same operation happen and that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► mean that iOS is wrong but to me as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► as that still the case as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► still have to write a custom workflow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► get something to happen in the workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► mind-boggling amazing but as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► that's how you get things done like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► is the official way to get things done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► on iOS I don't think that the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► dead quite yet and I mean I'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► talking about like writing code or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► anything like that i'm just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► about like general things that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► professionals do and you can define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► professionals professional podcasters as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► professional project managers as cmo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► whatever benbrook his title is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► even remember anymore but if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► jumping through hoops in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► their work done even if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► necessarily feel like it's jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► through hoops it's still daisy-chaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► a bunch of different steps together as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► long as that's still a thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► think the mac is dead but when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► stops being a thing or becomes even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► easier to kind of daisy chain all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► workflows because apps are supporting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► then I start to wonder maybe on the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► well that this is why I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► important to me to really make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► these observational comparisons will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► check out your conversations on people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► who do the same kind of work that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► right like you know people you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► are podcasters and writers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► podcasters also use macs to podcast with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► not not all podcast but the ones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► mentioned and you know a writer can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► away with using iOS only or primarily a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► lot more easily than a programmer can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► day and you know so I i think it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► people like you know you and I all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► of us are all programmers once a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► bunch of programmers dump their pcs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► macs and do everything to all of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► work on iOS then I think we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► start looking okay you know this there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► consider this we should pay attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► this maybe we're wrong at that point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► until that happens which might never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► come again I want to be very careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► here and how i phrase this like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► you said like you know like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► that the mac is dead and back is in debt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► until this happens and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► you know that you phrase these things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► inevitable future but i do want to i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► want to be clear here that when i talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► considering this inevitable future the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► future I mean you know obviously OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► eventually do die and and you know fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► maintenance but I i am still not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► convinced that the pc style operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► system is destined to to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► sideline and killed in favor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► mobile style operating system within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► foreseeable future like eventually on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► different time scale might happen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► you know I i don't i don't see this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► like the obvious you know foretold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► future that is that is certain to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► but in any way I think you really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► to just look at like you know people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► do the kind of work you do and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► the people who were talking about going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► ios-only or iOS being the inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► most of these people are writers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► analysts and executives and that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► and there's a lot of people who who that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► will be fine for but if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► talking to people who do different kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► of things their computers including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► things that we all that all three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► do then you start very quickly to hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► limits of like oh well you you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► can't do that on iOS yet or you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► really difficult and clunky to do in iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► I don't think you can look at a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► people who professionally right as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► main job and and say like well they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► all using iPads therefore i should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► using an iPad you been you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► more concerned if people who do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► like programming if they switch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► that's when you should pay attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► I I largely agree with you but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► think it's fair to classify federico [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► Mike and Brooks all is simply writers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► mean I think they're doing I didn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► simply and I well that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► ok it's not there it's a job that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► very amenable to iOS primary or iOS only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► work and there are a lot of jobs which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► is the case but there's a lot where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► isn't also yeah I guess my point is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► I I don't want to paint the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► because I can hear Mike Harley and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► Federico screaming at us from the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► it's not all that is right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► it'sit's there they're doing sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► relatively intense you know spreadsheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► working look at the the quarterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► earnings reports that federico to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► farts out in the span of like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► seconds because while the workflows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► he's built in and you know Mike it in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► in Stephen hacker you know building for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► invoicing advertisers and doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► sorts of like traditional business see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► things so I i agree with you that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► it is mostly writer like things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► surface but there's a lot more to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► but that doesn't negate your point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► the these people with the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► perhaps of Federico actually these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► people are not developers they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► writing code will accept federico honey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► their devices in Federation a liar and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► lot of his yeah I I agree I agree but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► but yeah I it's not the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► that the three of us do but i don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► to discount in summary as as legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► work that is more than just writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► prose on a piece of paper that's all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► no I never said legitimate or simple lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► I'm not sayin yeah i'm not i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► different software needs and different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► with different things you need from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► computing devices and and and different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► levels of of like flexibility and access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► to things like files and inner inner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► integration of lots of things within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► programming like that you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► there are certain traits witnesses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► both OS styles but again you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► think when people who do the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► things you do are switching and mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► that's when to pay attention before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► that unless that happens I I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► you need to be worried too much that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► are the dinosaur holding back progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► also it's quite impressive that john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► thinks that we can hold back progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► but now i'm just saying like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► you spending your time doing this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► that if you see somebody yelling yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► that even if they if they don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► do anything it does not it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► they're they're wasting their time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► it's a sad situation where they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► realize that the world is passing by one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► more item on this the that i think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► it sort of the second level version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► checking yourself which is more focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► on Apple the company and less focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► whether what the future of computing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► and that is the question of whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► important for Apple to be in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► personal computer market so even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► see everything that Marco said that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► okay well people doing these types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► jobs still need pc or whatever is it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► best thing for the company called apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► does it need to be in the pc market and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► that's where we talk about the goal they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► need you know the max developer iOS what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► they have a development environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► iPads well it's not the same blog could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► you develop iOS applications on PCs like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► that's the next question is even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► stipulate pieces are going away anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► should Apple continue to sell pcs is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► mac only hang around for old times sake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► and tradition and affection but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► be better for the company to allow all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► the people who develop for iOS to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► maintains and really is arguing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► Apple to say in the market really we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► just trying to like you know I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► made the argument of times like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► every every other alternative is worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► so we would be sad but it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► perspective of Apple the company they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► may say yes everyone we agree every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► alternative is worse than the mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► the mac is no longer worth the money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► us to invest in a rather than letting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► limp along with us never updating our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► stuff and you being all mad about it why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► don't we just get out of the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► same way we got out of printers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► that also they're not in and won't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► be refreshing we can finally concentrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► on the thing we do best which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► iphone with some ancillary iOS type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► I i think you know obviously I disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► with that everybody that's that's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► still keep it in mind as the second the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► the first being that you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► know we're on the wrong side of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► and the second is where the right side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► of history but just because we love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► apple just because it's the best that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► would actually be better for the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► Apple to get out of this business so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► could concentrate on the other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► which again I I don't buy but I still I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► still entertain that as a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► experiment that I that I revisit to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► sure that it's not the case because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► can sneak up on you to where you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► you feel so strongly that you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► that like look everybody who's editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► videos doing in a big powerful personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► prosecutors can't go I'm a video editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► i need that video i look at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► other people who are writing video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► no one's doing on an iPad clewd the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► pieces of thing and then to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► leap there for Apple needs to make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► mac pro does Apple need to make an actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► or do you just need to switch to windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► and be sad my you know a bit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► again pros will use whatever they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► to use to get the job done and the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► like an appliance is the time on market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► was talking about getting the surface to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► do the more you use a computer like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► appliance to get your job done as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► professional the less tied you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► effectively if not emotionally to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► particular platform using so if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► gonna be in Lightroom all day and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► surface to do is the best you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► dedicated lightroom appliance you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► into the office it down frame and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► you do is lightroom lightroom like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► maybe that is better than any solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► apple has to offer and maybe Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► sometimes a mental thing that you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► about but realistically speaking we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► would all be much happier of Apple got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2578">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► out of it and stop making a line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► computers entirely and you just sat down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► in front of your service to do and gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► that business to Microsoft some company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► that that's actually interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► yeah well as soon as apple tarts being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► managed by the numbers that way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► going to find themselves i think in in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► very boring and slowly declining place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► with numbers suggest so or not that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► very very fast way to become microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► with under steve ballmer I'm not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► that's you know that there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► wonderful Steve Jobs video that flutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► and read a couple weeks ago about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► you know it took like five it takes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► five years to realize that when the bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► flips and you start like make computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► just to make money and not to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► better computers or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► i'm probably butchering it but he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► said he would milk the mac for all tours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► and move on to the next big thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► the mac is it's not like an analogy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► was talking about specifically the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► no good for all it's worth we want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► next thing is clearly thought the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► thing was the iPhone the iPad and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► pretty clear the next thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► iphone that but we're still making mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► pursuing your passion not continuing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► make the back just because you've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► enthusiastic about iOS devices only then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► disappointing way you know it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► if I were you just going to go if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► going to go by the numbers that i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► go where the big business but maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► maybe the passion just not doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► anymore for the max maybe they see it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► interested in and isn't it better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► all of us to divorce this dysfunctional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► relationship stop making the mac force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► everybody to go windows which will or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► whatever which will force more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► into that market that will hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► motivate microsoft to make the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► recommending any of this just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► you're all thought experiments and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► things that I revisit every visit mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► reject but if you never revisit them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► thinking so you start running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► company by the numbers and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► well it'll be fine will you no will will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► let the mac languages will kill it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► because it's not you know it's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► we want to go or whatever whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► reason doesn't matter but it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► the numbers they're not passionate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► is the past in there they're passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► about the future so they're running it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► by their passion they're not they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► being a slave to the past they're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► what we're interested in is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► maybe interested in AR or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► interested in the mac anymore so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► ever since the opposite of running about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► that because the numbers would tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► there's just this free money why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► throwing it away say we're throwing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► away so we can concentrate more fully on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► the thing that we really believe in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► future which is the opposite of steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► ballmer steve ballmer will keep the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► going forever and just do exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► the customers wanted forever and ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► as the rest of the world moves on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► know I mean I feel like that's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► the steve ballmer your Apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► definitely not keep some same products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► no I mean like I don't like I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► of cell of trying to do with that market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► wants exactly like they would be giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► ports and you know constantly revising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► them and just SAT like making them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► satisfied in the way to like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► IBM mainframe customers are satisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► the IBM will continue to make mainframes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► for its mainframe customers and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► them exactly what they want all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► while the whole rest of the movie world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► is moving on from mainframes but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► don't know they're like it's fine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► know they keep making us better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► better mainframes and we love mainframes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► and they wake up one day and the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► world has moved on like wait there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► only like 10 of us left but we were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► happy for all these years and and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► happy to give IBM all this money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► they kept making these also made for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► insurance and the world has moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► past right so that I feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► everything you're saying about the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► what happens when they apply that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► same logic to the iphone but they can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► mean if there are no longer passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► about the iphone and they think the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► big thing is something else you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► then they should like it's it's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► the same thing Steve Steve Jobs saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► like milk the mac for alternate move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► to the next big thing eventually its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► milk the iphone fall to earth move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► the next big thing because if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► someone else will like someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► where your lunch if you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► another cannibalizing your business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► Apple's the window cannibalized its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► ipods appleton cannibalize ipod sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► the sales curve for ipods look like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► same big hump with spikes on it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► it would look exactly the same but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► someone else would have replaced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► whether it's samsung or Microsoft or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► whoever whoever would have won that war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► if Apple can cannibalize the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► someone else would so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► Apple bank the company on the ipod said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► it's going to be ipod forever and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► American people were saying the ipod is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► going to go off the mac and now Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► just an ipod company and the apple store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► Apple's the one cannibalize the ipod it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► turns out the ipod ark was obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► shorter than we think the iphone arc is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► going to be the iphone our cholesterol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► lives for all we know right or longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► but that's that's the challenging of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► innovators dilemma and all that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► crap that's the challenge of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► and the mac in all these grasses this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► aberration that never goes up and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► goes down it just keeps on trucking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► I think they're you know I'm again i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► these are things that are worth thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► about I don't find them convincing if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► had to make the argument I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► Apple needs to continue making the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► and should do much better job at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► because the time is not complex i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► I'm on the same page marker like other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► people who are doing these tasks are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► currently using anything that's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► a pc that using PC's to do them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► they're not using surface tablets are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► not using this point is still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► surface to do that they're using PC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► workstations running Maya or or max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► they're just not using iPads to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► jobs right and that's I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► you know but market and doing homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► reasonable last-minute scrambling all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► the teachers come around and collecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► the papers how I got through school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► yeah i think that is a thing to look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► and you have to be careful because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► you're just looking at the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► are like hanging out in the same circles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► as you then it's all like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► self-selecting like we'll all my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► still use pcs but maybe every kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► graduating school is doing you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► for example digital video like every kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► graduating film school is shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► digital video and editing digibeta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► you're like well my friends are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► shooting on film so films never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► die you're you're being blind you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► missing it right but I think in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► case for the jobs were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► certainly programming because I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► not just for iOS and mac program which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► in all realms that serious programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► is still done in pc-style devices video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► editing for the most part is still done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► pc-style devices but you gotta want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► watch the kids watch the kids coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► from school are there edit our the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► editing the film school project on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► iPad or on a surface studio are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► anything like that you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► sort of like the leading indicator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► that's the thing to watch for I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► pc-style computers are still think to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► my big fear is that Apple decides that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► business I don't particularly have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► fear fear that in the near future the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► style of computing is going to go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► I have a fear isn't the Apple personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► computer meaning the mac is going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► away because apple doesn't care about or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► neglected to the point and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► worst-case scenario where you still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► to use a pc but you don't longer get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► choose the mac because it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► it's no longer any good for you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► when i switch to linux god help us all a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► quick side note about that though John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► had some co-workers at the last gig that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► did use surface tablets to do their work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► like to write code to do their work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► they're only couple of them in and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► regretted their decision but in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► sense it is happening that is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► that happens from time that i recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► that I keep putting the surface and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► around thinking more of like using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► touch interface to the surface devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► even more the surface studio where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► where you are touching the screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► amaze respects the surface books and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► they're just a convertible laptop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► it's modeled by the fact that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► Windows is this unified platform but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► programming stuff on services to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► it's just a laptop is it at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► it's like a weird laptop with a bendy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► hinge and it's running windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► they're running terminal stuff and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► have a keyboard and they have a trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► pointing device and they also have a pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► essentially they're using a laptop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► they have they have windows with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► title bars and scroll bars like it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► pay you know it it's confusing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► of the way Microsoft has done its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► unified us strategy but i would still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► totally classify was as pc-style because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► it's it is very distinct from the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► style even when i see my daughter she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► getting a keyboard logitech keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► thing for I bet he when she does you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► know form of laptop with her you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► that's one twin Soria you guys miss that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► show anyway right but she makes a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► laptop out of her iPad and our keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► there's no it's still not a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► yes it looks like one yes there's a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► of a vertical screen and horizontal ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► keyboard but there's no point on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► screen she's not using a trackpad there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► are no windows there are no scroll bars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► and scroll thumbs is no menu bar along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► the top of it is not a pc computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► experience she's not you know like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► its yeah we we live in a strange time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► live in a strange transitional time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► some things defy categorization but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► think the salient points like what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► computing environment are pretty clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► for me obviously it's all about windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► because what the hell imagine if the 28 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► inch surface studio did not have windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► like everything was full screen or split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► screen like it doesn't the ipad we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► say this is the biggest waste of a 28 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► inch screen in the world unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► only ever in one app doing like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► time than fine but for a general-purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► computing device getting back to Marco's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► idea that you can do more than one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► a general-purpose computing device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► can only show apps in full screen on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► 20 inch display is just a very wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► headed idea and i would say that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► pc computer that's more like iOS here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► a question where it in what products is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► Apple really like stepping on the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► and really firing on all cylinders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► earpods I know it's not the valid answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► in this context but I cannot stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► talking about how much i love my ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► pods i would say the iphone i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► know i think the last show recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► listened to it so it's fresh in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► marker said like all the new iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► like internally the changes aren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► big like look at the graphs man like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► every part of this every part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► that can be better computing wise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► capacity wise is better by leaps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► bounds by like nineties error pc leaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► and bounds like it's not that the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► the cpu is not just a little bit faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► the GPU is not just a little bit faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► than the flash capacities like Max's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► would you know that double like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► only get 1 28 last year 9250 sexes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► fantastically better internal in it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► know the only thing that's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► better about a bio they're not stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► against like oh the case is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► shape and even there they did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► they changed the surface in such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► that Marcos universe saying is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► favorite product of last year because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► made such a difference in in day-to-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► use so I i still think iphone is is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► know pedal to the metal and their pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► are part of that are part of their weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► headphone thing which by the way has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► bitten me I don't have a USBC laptop but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► I've been bitten by the the headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► thing like five times recently where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► thought I had everything I needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► I was going to plug a headphone in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► realized even on the plane coming back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► brought the adapter for me to use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► noise-canceling headphones but then my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► daughter wanted to use some headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► to and plug-in it's like out well I only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► have one of that they're like you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► you always think you have everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► need but here just used oh nevermind or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► gone on a car trip and you know before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► yeah we're going to plug in my wife's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► old car she just had walks in with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► a headphone port and I brought my ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► with me or my phone with me and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► listen to like the podcast that I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► the middle of and we get in the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► start driving away and I grabbed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► little aux cord from the center console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► no this happens there's no place i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► plug that into my phone and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► not carrying adapter around with me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► yeah the struggle is realized they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► obsessively engineer mattress at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► go to Casper calm / ATP and use code ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► for fifty dollars towards your mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► Casper created one perfect mattress sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► directly to consumers eliminating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► Commission driven inflated prices the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► award-winning caster mattress was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► developed in house with a sleek design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► has delivered a remarkably small box you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► can get it up narrow stairs if you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► to and also in addition to the mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► Casper also now offers an adaptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► pillow and soft breathable sheets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► mattress industry is for consumers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► the payment Horace lehigh markups cancer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► revolutionize the industry by cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► the cost of dealing with resellers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► pass that savings directly on to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► the in-house team of engineers spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► thousands of hours developing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► catcher mattress it contains supportive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► memory foams for a sleep surface with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► just the right sink and just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► balance and it's breathable design sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► school to help you regular temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► throughout the night and also casts were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► made buying mattresses online easy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► completely risk-free mean it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► crazy a mattress online but they offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► free delivery and free returns with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► hundred knight home trial period so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► here's how this works you can just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► the mattress just take the risk because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► if you don't love it within a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► Knights just call them up and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► arrange a pickup at your house and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► you a full refund no questions asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► they understand the importance of truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► sleeping on a mattress before you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► spending a third of your life on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► we've heard from friends and listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► who all have great things to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► casper mattresses and time as he named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► it one of the best inventions 2015 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► get your cast for mattress try it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► hundred Knights in your home risk-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► free delivery free returns with home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► pick up go to Casper calm / ATP to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► Casper calm / ATP and use code ATP for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► fifty dollars towards your mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► thank you very much to Casper for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► alright final bit of follow-up speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► of cars so I'll up our own son well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► this is one of those episodes were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► follow-up isn't exactly follow up which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► is probably the most episodes anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► sammobile submit who is co-host of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► wheel bearings podcast which if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► wanted neutral but with people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► actually knew what they were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► about you should look up wheelbarrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► that's because anyway he writes into say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► the 2016-2017 model your courts do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► indeed support both carplay and android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► auto as do most new hondas the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► hundreds that are still waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► android auto and car play update our the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► fit in the HRV i'm not sure what that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► I know the crv even with HIV don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► what the HRV is then be glad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► terrible but anyway the 2018 odyssey's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► debuting in a couple of weeks of Detroit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► at the detroit auto show so that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► me think the team is car does indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► have carplay doesn't not so here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► pictures of it online and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► didn't seem like screenshots of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► Marcos carplay stuff and I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► marcos disembodied car playtesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► what's happening right but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► how carplay works do I have to download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► an app onto my phone called car plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► know so I just you think of I just plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► the phone into my wife's car with a wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► because we don't have the wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► version that something will happen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► the screen to indicate you are in car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► plane now apparently if you just plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► in there will be one of those alerts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► like a computer where it says do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► trust this car or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► and then magic happens now I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► witnesses myself this is real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► follow-up but that's what I'm being told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► yeah last time Taylor was saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► was only on certain trim levels at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► bottom line is like the schrödinger's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► cat of car place for it until I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► her car both has carplay support and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► doesn't have car place support but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► seriously i do i had not occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► to think like do I have to download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► happen once i download the app do i do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► thing or is it just plug it in and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► think basically we've never actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► plugged any of our iphones into her car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► because it's all been bluetooth so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► could be that the that's holy right mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► John how do you not know this already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► I'll be the first thing i tried I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► driven that car onto and off of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► driveway like twice that's how far i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► why don't you just go outside right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► and give it a shot I'm going to do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► i'm really not gonna take one just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► give it what it will take to long it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► take just a minute all right out I'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► hang on so literally as I'm saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► tina is sending the attacks saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► hold on i'm looking up the this hrv its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► kind it looks basically like the honda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► x1 ok i was standard on a core TX excel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► in touring but I think she doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► the exo i think is optional for her trim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► it was just not there was an optional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► says that's we don't have that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► know what is what is it honda USA heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► that it whenever you go to like Honda or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► Audi or whatever it's the corporate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► is the most American thing I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► ever said why does not go to high did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► not go directly to America it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► like in in the country list drop-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► why are we not the first time listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► and no applicant really this is barbaric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► do I really have to scroll look at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► likely is that I'm actually from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► you know any of these other places like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► just put the put the US on top for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► stupid arrogant Americans and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► else below if I i am fully behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► tina saying there was no option its she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► does not have any exits sports special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► it was not an option there's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► no options period anyway my guest John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► outside in the cold in the winter for no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► reason know what I'm sure he won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► mad but I'm never getting yelled at by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► tina that nobody wants to believe her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► I can't believe you Tina just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► send right outside that too but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► basically every conversation I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► with aaron ever go there and tells me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► this is not a thing or this is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► now you've got to be wrong it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► every conversation I've ever had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► Aaron yeah I believe we have words for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► this one of the more charitable one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► probably means mansplaining the magic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► Technology ya meri jaan here is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► happened so i go to the car and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► all my stuff my cables and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► and I I plug you know get the car turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► on i plug the thing in a way to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► something pop up on my phone screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► nothing ever pops up with a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► seconds and here you two talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► what I'm doing right now is going to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► tomorrow with your trainer and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► honda website and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► because Venus phone popped on right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► the tina upstairs on bluetooth and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► car is paired with her from him so start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► over for a second like what the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► going good so obviously the magic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► Bluetooth anyway my result of the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► experiment was that plugging in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► phone does nothing I was not prompted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► do anything I couldn't find anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► any the menus that mentioned car player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► anything about carpet I could connect my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► phone by bluetooth but that's not carpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► works it's not a bluetooth audio things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► so inconclusive results but at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► least merely playing my phone in did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► nothing while you were gone i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► sure we found out that your wife is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► right the whole time and you didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► that's thanks Sam guy on the car park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► cast who knows something supposedly your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► oh I'm sure we'll get some feedback on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► this one amazingly sometimes we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► he really did and this is why we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► do a car show kids this is that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► love when you don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► talking about you do a car podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► people really like that they think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► not i reject this characterization i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► know a lot about what i was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► about you to keep saying that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► yourselves but I reject that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► this is this episode of speaking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► turning turning a to be quite good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► thought we could have like no structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► this week there's no I mean ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► follow up with all those items religion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► follow-up haha doing homework and it man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► they went long sometimes salt goes long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► but you know that tends to happen after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► lots of stuff builds up and we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► problematic part we have here is as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► transition to topics go look what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► lurking there and look at the notes very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► first item who put that in there who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► actually on the Casey did you have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► yes I don't think I want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► that right it's just like it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► thing we've been talking about for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► last month on the show I don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► is that like I read what parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► yeah you deleted it but I've got here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► there anything in that article that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► not something that we've already talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► no probably not so the article in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► question the hopefully will cut this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► from the show for the article now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► yeah Chuck Vandross patch arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► apologize but anyway his apple 2016 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► in review which tldr something suck some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► things don't but it's a great post it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► yeah I mean it's good it's a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► good you know that he's expressing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► much more succinct way the the his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► position on the issue is not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► the word how to use its value is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► succinct in like hours and hours of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► audio but like you know where we're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► were wrong Mac fans and we're all kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► of experiencing some dissatisfaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► with the treatment of the mac and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► talked about it at length and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► his take on it and it was good and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► was articulate and it was an expression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► of his his opinion and his desires in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► his hopes and dreams and it was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► post but for the purposes of discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► the show i'm wondering if it is bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► we haven't already given our pains on 19 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► yeah and since will be asked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► hold on one sec in chrisandem chris that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► yeah also very good although I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► I don't know if the mac pro was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► choice there but we're seeing that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► a lot of people saying similar things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► this is not a coincidence this is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► accident this is not a a trend or people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► this is like legitimately apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► causing concern in many of its customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► and many of its best biggest fans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► longest time customers and so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► i think if I can if I can summarize in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► very quick way or at least like try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► put a cap on this for now 2017 is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► be a very important year for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► prove a lot of big things to to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► market into its customers right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► there's a lot of things where it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► the the answer from apple so far is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► you know like it wait till you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► we have next or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► 20-17 a lot of the stuff is coming do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► you know that gives 2017 passes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► the whole year and there isn't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► major new iphone design and there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► some answers to the mac pro and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► isn't maybe better quarterly earnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► these are some pretty big things there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► have been bad signs on these fronts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► the last year or so but everyone's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► than next year or sooner this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► to be out sooner this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► fixed soon or the next iphone is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► be great or those quarterly earnings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► were an anomaly all those promises are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► going to be do this year and we you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► a year from now when were presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► still have this podcast and still doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► follow-up we will see were all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► concerns unfounded where were is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► complaints gonna age you are we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► is Apple about to release over the over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► the course of the next year amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► things and they're gonna blow our minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► and we're going to we're gonna feel good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► about the back again and we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► feel good about Apple's prospects again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► good about the iphone design again all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► the stuff and the number is going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► up and everyone the markets going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► happy like is that really gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► we don't know yet but we'll find out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► I really hope things go better because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► frankly if they don't I'm going to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► us to talk about because i'm tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► being sad all the time of the stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► love or wherever the chat room had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► good turn of phrase which I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► slightly improve 2017 your mac OS on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► desktop nice we're going on nice whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► so yeah I know Marco wanted to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► capper on this but unfortunately next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► item at the top of list is the one tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► yes very old entire topic that I happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► to that happened to occur to me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► tweeted earlier today was in response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► Michael sighs he's had a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► articles on this on this whole same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► thing like so many other mac bloggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► and he's an all-time mac user and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► feeling all the same things and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► his posts was on finding an alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► to what he calls Mac os10 but he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► he's not on board with their naming i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► guess and he likes to Wesley Moore's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► post about this about you know trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► find i'm looking into different linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► distributions and stuff like people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► looking for alternatives or for Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► there they're not looking for an escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► patch but like at the very least trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► to see what else is out there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► before I was happy using the mac and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► wasn't looking all terms but now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► starting to consider like hey what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► is that their house windows doing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► know is linux any good let me try for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► distribution stuff like that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► Gruber also talked about anyway so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► Michael signpost uh what I tweeted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► used a little quote we feature which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► actually am starting to like this gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► you room to actually write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► welcome to like two years ago job and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► know I mean I my client has supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► the iOS version twitter is but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► totally up to date but i am still my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► habits are based on the old but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► talking about like not knowing when to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► now I use it like nothing my normal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► Twitter way would be to like I write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► right but by by quoting you get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► characters back anyway what we did was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► the last time Mac users were seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► passing around articles like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► articles like the one about finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► alternatives was during the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► for mac OS to Mac os10 and as I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► committed to someone else who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► replied some replied I can't wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► people for the million replies they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► going to say and now it's the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► for mac OS to iOS haha which yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► are many of those replies but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► what my commentary on all of this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► analysis intentionally omitted a because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► it's winter and you don't have room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► do that and be I like to just let this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► tweet lie because it is like a Rorschach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► test you know that the last time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► article about this was the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► macro and micro spent half the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► are going to see that and say yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► what those dummies wrong because Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4175">TS</a>]
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01:16:33 ◼ ► bucks or whatever it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► and I do have hdmi ports available on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► the side of my TV so i'm going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► that but all of our google photos are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► associated with my google account not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► hurt even though she has the iphone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► the photo library under 5k imac under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► her account so she owns that but Amanda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► and this is actually a feature I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► the fact that we can cause i had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► terabyte google storage that I used for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► other things and so when it came time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► look at the photos i said i can run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► google photos thing on your account on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► upload all of your photos from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► family photo library up to my google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► account storage because I'm the one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► one terabyte of storage and so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► all the google photos and you could only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► associate the google home with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► google account that is the first thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► i searched by googling because I saw how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► you set up okay now how do i had another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► campus you know and all the google web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► properties you can be signed into mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► accounts which among them and have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► know like i thought surely that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► thing but immediately found out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► google home currently is limited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► account so it is connected to my google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► account and the reason is connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► my google account is because I'm the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► with all the photos and that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► the one of the few things that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► thing can do for me so that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► limitation number two is i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► it's a big number 20 will link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► show notes this article Dan Martin wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► about these devices and avid i look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► forward to the summary of this like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► like the book jacket like John siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► called google home dot a big number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► yeah oh yeah that the number two thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► is the basic like Amazon echo has a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► lead and it does way more stuff right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► just doesn't especially in terms of home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► automation of other things like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► been out longer it has more integrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► and so if you're looking for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► you could take out of the box and hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► up a bunch of 50 different things too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► and make your actions like this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► that thing someone asked me on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► if you had to do it over again would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► still buy the google home and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► even know i have a google home and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► talked about doing it over again I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► just got the google home like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► know but the reason I got it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► we've talked about this before them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► i said i was interested the reason I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► it is because i believe in the promise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► believe in the promise of google home as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► a proxy actuality google hormones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► product is that it's it's nice-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► in the echo and in some ways it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► better in terms of yeah i think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► the speaker's a little bit better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► it's smaller and you know it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► little bit more polished i think but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► totally buying it because I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► google will eventually be better at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► the things that I care about which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► understanding what I'm saying and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► me find me useful information and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► answers and I do use google calendar we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► all use google calendar i use google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► from my email we have our photos on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► google in theory this has access to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► of our stuff in the Amazon echo would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► and I subscribe to google play because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► subscribe to google play family thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► with to get youtube red or whatever so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► can say things like you know I hate ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► Google but that's what it is instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► configured what i can say okay google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► play some Christmas music and guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► a place christmas music because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► access to you know they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► streaming music service whereas you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► amazon echo do the same thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► set something up to do it or you can try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► to get it to play audio on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► bluetooth connected device and play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► audio it's on that device or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► so far mostly the children have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► asking you to say things in foreign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► languages and do unit conversions i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► use it to set timers but it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► limited like the one of the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► things I had to do was remind me two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► hours to check on the roast this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► on Christmas Day right and it said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► can't set up a reminder if you sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► about that something like you can't set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► up reminders like you don't need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► integration just do it right it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► timers set a timer for two hours for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► ok I've set a timer for two hours for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► the roast right but remind me in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► hours and knows that i want a reminder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► but yeah I guess it classifies them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► reminders vs timers and it has no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► create a reminder in the world of google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► yet right so again I google this and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► on a million people saying yes it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► set reminders that maybe we'll be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► to in the future so i really hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► they get cranking on the integrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► I am very impressed with his ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► understand my children's poor addiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► as they yell over each other to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► I'm impressed with its ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► understand me talking from other rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► and mumbling and how responsive it is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► ask me to set timers it takes me longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► to figure out when I can start talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► to Siri than it does to complete the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► action on the google all right was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► just an internal frustration have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► fanciest fastest iphone and half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► time I'm like is it okay for me to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► to have to wait for the boop and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► like I start talking then it goes boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► and then it doesn't understand me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► can't reset it and have to start all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► over as I just want to talk to there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► you mentioned Casey before serie in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► mac that this is I think one of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► the things about the Amazon echo and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► google home do so much better than Cirie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► on the Mac it's searing the mac really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► want to be worth a damn it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► like this two devices where I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► say ok Mac what's the weather like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► tomorrow no preamble no pressing the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► know making sure the mac is ready before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► I talk just freaking said because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► this little tiny hundred-dollar cylinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► multi-thousand dollar computer should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► able to do that to let alone the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► there's no hey seriously though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► without script to make it organized when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► you say no like this is understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► Mac Mac has to be able to do too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► as as Marco well knows that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► killer feature to be able to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► rattled off in the air with no setup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► no preamble and no making sure everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► is ready and just friggin does it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► that's awesome right that I mean that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► think the most important feature all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► microphones that can understand you from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► far away with background noise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► incredible responsiveness and iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► don't have that and max don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► is a damn shame so anyway google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► it shows promise it for the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► intentionally bought it because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► believe in the promise of google doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► this type of stuff really well and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► things that it does do it does do really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► well you can phrase your engine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► Google search you can phrase your unit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► conversions or questions about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► weather or follow-up questions in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► fairly natural way and it pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► it just needs more features so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► patiently waiting for them to appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► yeah I i gotta say i mean i have yet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► see the google home but having had now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► quite a bit of experience with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► Amazon echo these like home cylinders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► with voice stuff to connect two simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► things like timers and weather and music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► services and home automation this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► real deal this category is really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► it's a really fun and there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► land-grab going on right now mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► being one by amazon i am honestly kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► of concerned that Apple's not playing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► the space yet and I mean we've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► rumblings that they're working on it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► really hope they get here soon because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► this is the time into this business that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► is that so / christmas we we got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► in-laws an echo that was kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► like it for the last you know five six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► Christmases we've we've gotten people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► various Apple things mean I like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► TV's here and there and and occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► iPads for like big gifts sometimes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► year nobody got anything by Apple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► this year was apple had nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► with our holiday fun this year they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► just you know we were all like using I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► think that's basically but like there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► nothing there was no like new stuff from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► for us and grando the airports are big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► deal on it but you know that that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► any way that wasn't for all diseases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► anyway all the fun was playing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► echo and these are the end and all at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► the home automation like the bygone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► handful of like the belkin wemo outlets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► and everything that you can switch them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► happening right now in like cool fun new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► technology and yeah it is it isn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► you know a massive business there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► a lot of profit to be made here mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► amazon's already selling the echo for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► under 200 bucks and the dots are like 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► bucks and what's the google home like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► hundred and fifty or something when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► got on sales one of the reasons about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► got a 410 929 so like you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► obviously going to be like a low-margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► business for you know probably forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► and that's that's going to be difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► for Apple because I I can't see Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► coming in that you know under 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► probably you know I mean look the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► TV is you know in a similar boat were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► like all the competitors are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► expensive for you compared to them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► anyway you know I I worry about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► this business because like it's so cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► it's so much fun these devices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► really really awesome and but in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► to be good I have it like they require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► two things apple very good at service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► consistency and integration with a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► of other stuff i don't have to beat as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► joke like you no sirree for all of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► benefits and faults it one thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► really isn't even even people who love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► Siri I think they would usually agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► one thing early isn't is consistent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► you know that the echo is so incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► rock-solid so anyway between Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► Amazon I really haven't read a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► review of the google home that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► think anybody should buy over the echo I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► honestly like I it all the reviews seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► to say like yeah it's kind of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► thing but worse like I what am I missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► I mean it is i feel like it is better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► all the same things that Google is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► that you can type thing to do a google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► search box and lots of different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► and more or less figures out what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► mean like in in the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► know the difference sweetie we know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► Google does that thing where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► it's like you're a bunch of search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► results and hear a bunch of ads but by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► the way i'm pretty sure I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► you're getting and here's a box at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► top that shows like exactly what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► like a score of the game or like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► answer to the trivia question you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► asking or whatever before it even gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► the search results that type of stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► more or less exposed in a spoken way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► opposed to like you're like 17 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► morning as we talked about doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► language translation the echo or likes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► rather can do that as well but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► displays the results on your on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► phone in the ios app it doesn't speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► them back to you so it's it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► was all the things that Google is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► at if you're interested in controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► stuff in your home the echo has way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► integration if you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► buying things like forget it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► amazon's brain but you might want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► things by talking Amazon's got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► covered i don't know if you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► at all in Google Play what by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► that sounds like a stupid thing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► you do it i'm sure you'll love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► yeah haha once once you're like 10 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► know once you get into the Amazon way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► everything from amazon you can't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► you can do things like say name of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► reorder a fridge filter and it will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► through your order history and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► query it for the freezer fridge filter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► and will say do you want me to add this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► thing you know it'll read the name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► was a here's how much it costs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► here's you know it has four star reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► whatever also knows they do want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► it now and you can you know you can add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► it to your cart and just do it later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► you had your shopping list or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► just have it say yes and place it place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► the order right then you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► literally get rid of your like Iran of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► this thing or another one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► things you can eliminate those problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► like without ever touching computer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5278">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► oh my fridge filters replaced are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► getting the fridge filter two days later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► just shows up it's kind of amazing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► also before we got this thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► a ridiculous concept but once you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► like once and you kind of break the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► the break the seal almost killed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► heat you break hearts like once you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► once you're just like oh my god this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► why have I not been doing this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► think we're kind of in an apple google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► situation like the early days of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► iphone where was like oh we have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► nice sort of symbiosis where a apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► going to do this awesome hardware in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► OS and Google will do the cloud services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► like the maps and stuff and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► marriage made in heaven and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► split it seems like they're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► split because there are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► better but there are also things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► Google does better and i basically any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► kind of search for intelligence to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► amazon can do all those things mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► because they have integration with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► Google or Google like services but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► don't do themselves whereas buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► things amazon is totally like it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► integrated with your amazon account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► knows your order history can do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► like that it gets to you would you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► want a home automation thing that can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► all of these things right and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► way like eternity I'm as i'm probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► has them every service under the Sun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► google has all my photos and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► doesn't have any iphones I can't ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► echo to show photos of my son on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► television you know show photos my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► 2015 on my chromecast I can't ask amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► to do that i mean i could maybe make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► little skill or program or a little app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► in their little things that make it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► but like but Google's got my stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► in the same way Apple if they ever come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► up with one apples got a lot of my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► to they've got also got my photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► you know they have my reminders because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► they use reminders on my phone and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► have my imessages but they don't have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► calendar because Google has that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► you know in some respects the best would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► be a cylinder that you talked to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► doesn't have a horse in that race but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► integrates with all of them sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► cylinder equivalent of the omniverse box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► but of course that doesn't exist so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► instead we're we have to choose silos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► have a solid has nothing except for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► sort of cranky Syria that you can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► talk to him by the way if they ever did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► make a cylinder can you imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► they may respond to a high telephone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► which i'm not going to say every device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► in your home would go off and then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► the cylinder with bloop later like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► should just give these things different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► names or whatever else is like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► actually is not an easy problem to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► what like like what when the when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► Amazon set of products first came out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► you had them if you have more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► looks they're so cheap it and you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► of always want one nearby so it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► a lot of people have or will have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► than one which again puts a problem on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► apples strategy of probably a nicer more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► expensive one anyway so it when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► more than one like if both of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► within earshot when you say the trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► word you know originally they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► kind of both operate independently it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► eventually the software update which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► the way everybody had to know baloch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► biggest update themselves and don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► updates amazing but a software update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► eventually they added a thing where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► you can give them both the same trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► word and now like whichever one like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► heard you best will handle the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► and so and and you know they're I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► believe they're also wanted to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► things like multi-room audio similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► what sonos does i think google home talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► about something like that to it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► either they're doing it they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► do it like this is actually it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► to ramp up quickly into a category where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► actually you know non-trivial that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► I kind of like for Apple sake if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► going to play this business at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► I hope they get here soon because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► there's a lot to do and the competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► going to keep raising that bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► apples you can be playing catch-up if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► they really don't don't get here very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► I feel like Amazon even though they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► disadvantage because both Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► Apple have more people stuff than amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► the only thing amazon has for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► people is their purchase history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► purchases which is great for Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► because they're have trying to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► way for you to order things by talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► and make money that's fine but most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► people don't have all their family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► photos on their most people don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► big video collections up on amazon most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► people don't have their calendars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► Amazon or their you reminders or their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► shopping list which even though it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► these features like in other words to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► win like you said this you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► it's an ecosystem Play and Apple has its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► ecosystem google has its and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► argue about whose is better or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► but amazon's is the least full-featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► of all them like I and cool you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► have to actually integrate with them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► you to win doesn't doesn't help the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► google logo google has a calendar if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► can't do anything with the calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► which you can you can ask about your day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► google has maps data and traffic data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► like you need the integrations but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► easier to make those integrations if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► Apple Google actually gives a damn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► his products that schools are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► weaknesses historically then like I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► try this but maybe we're not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► interested whatever right but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► easier for Google to do this integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► and then it is for amazon to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► to use amazon for email amazon for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► calendars amazon photo storage like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► if they offer these services unit they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► make all these services to make world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► class versus the service to match both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► apple and Google's services then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► have to get people to switch to them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► there is a big disadvantage if to for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► them to ever be in the ballpark if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► there I guess their ace in the hole is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► ecosystem we will just we will try to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► as I'm nervous as possible and give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► integration so pay by the Amazon necro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► if you have your reminders on Apple we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► can integrate with them if you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► calendar on google we can integrate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► them like that's there that's the route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► but it's certainly easier for Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► Google to integrate with their own stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► it's just you know that they're playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► catch-up and like it in that article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► link in the show notes that reviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► them like Google Amazon integrates with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► all of these amazonica rituals all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► with all these home automation devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► in google just integrates with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► three but every single the one who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► listed as announced support frugal home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► right so it's not like Google is behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► but it's not like they're like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► where they do a single sign-on thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► then wait six months and say the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► three pathetic companies are the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► ones we got for single sign-on oops like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► everybody has announced removal home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► that doesn't mean anything a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5638">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► people ask for home kit to I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► it's the question of whether a google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► falls through on that and yeah google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► announced the product and they released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► it and it works which is way more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► apple has done so apples clearly in last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► place and I have some faith that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► home will have a more illustrious career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► and life then did all the other like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► Google TV and we're still again I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► think about the chromecast which seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► like this little turkey thing that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► no future but tons of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► chromecast and love them and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► now you get chromecast angle home now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► you have two pieces and they kind of fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► together and that chromecast was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► valuable suddenly becomes more valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► this is like ecosystem 101 so I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► some faith the Google understands that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► they can be they can be in our player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► here while Apple snoozes my amazon gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► market takes on all marcos money every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► time he speaks $14 a time for a fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► filter and and and the option by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► the Dan Martin option is these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► like a hundred something bucks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► no reason you can't have both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► they don't take up that much room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► anymore it's got to them as I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► you're like three of them in this house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► there's no reason you can't have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► them say a lot by me toilet paper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► google translate this phrase for me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► Google what's on my calendar today right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► it's confusing to talk to multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► like it's not like you're making of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► three thousand dollar investment in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► computing platform you're just buying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► little cylinder plug into the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► considering that as well to get both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► them because they don't conflict it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► fine how much the ecosystem matters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► which one succeeds or fails or which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► ones succeed or fail i think also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► depends on what people want these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► cylinders to do like what what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► role this is playing for you and let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► know like you're thinking about like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► asked the google thing to show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► pictures from your google photostream of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► I would never do that you are doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► and so they obviously people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► different needs for this kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► but you know I think certain roles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► going to come out ahead like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► like one of the things like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► rumor that came out a little couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► weeks ago about how it may be the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► ecco might be like a tablet kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► thing that's really made to be a kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► appliance really like because they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► that so many people put the echo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► their kitchens and turns out people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► really like using it in the kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► while cooking so that you know it'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► nice to meet you have something like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► know screen showing showing your timers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► because the tires are really popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► thing as opposed to just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► some kind of you know the audio thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► have now or screen is like a recipe or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► cooking or whatever else so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► amazon is finding their uses in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► Google might find their uses in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► living room each one could find their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► audience or it might turn out that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► things that Google Doc amazing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► people actually just want to use their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► phones to do those things and no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► really going to want their cylinders to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► do that and so Google making a bad bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► on that and maybe people really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► just a kitchen cylinder that plays music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► actually adding things most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► maybe amazon women there who knows like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► I don't think it's a safe assumption to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► say that the ecosystems that each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► these companies have now are a sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► thing to guarantee the success in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► new area because Pete we might find with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► differently than what we initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► expect ya is saying is it's a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► integrations are was easier to add those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► ecosystems because like having ownership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► of people's calendars and their messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► and their purchases like those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► things like purchases for example there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► no way Apple and Google can get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► they can't like we're going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► competing retail business so we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► a list of people to purchase it nope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► amazon can't say we're going to start an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► email service and it's gonna be as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► as gmail nope it won't and we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► have a calendaring service and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► be integrated into the iphone as Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► calendar or with android cool you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► like so that the lines are kind of drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► along there and those things are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► esoteric like photos calendar email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► address messages purchases those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► fundamental those are fundamentally on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► this kind of like they have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► squares and the Monopoly board right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► they're not they're not going away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► it's just a question of how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► going to be divvied up between them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► the the extras about the integrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► like that with the chromecast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► example I gave putting photos on my TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► this is the thing I do now but i do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► the long annoying manual way which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► always annoying i use apple tv2 do it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► pull up the photo library half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► thumbnails not show up is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► experience but like that's the thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► want to do and relatives are over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► let's look at pictures i have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► usually sorted into albums or smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► albums or something like that when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► mediterranean cruise i have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► setup i already have the album apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► because I'd use my photos and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► things has that stuff and I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► see them and I have to use that terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► remote and use a bunch of the UH of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► applications to you know make sure her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► computer's on the wake of all blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► chromecast don't have to think about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► little cylinder to think about and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► sit down and say show mediterranean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► cruise photos and notes from the the GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► tags but that I'm talking about because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► it's cool and it's really smart and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► have to make an album that's a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► experience but you can only do that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► you know where to get the photos from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► and most people are not going to be sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► of the self hackers of like well my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► photos are on a you know freebie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► freenas thing in the basement and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► wrote a linux server the polls they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► no one's going to do that like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► with the Amazon echo you can do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► integrations and in the beginning that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► that's kind of its impressive to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► these Rube Goldberg machines but I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► feel like oh especially in the subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► world they were in ownership of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► dictates what kind of things you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► for LA and I said the same way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► cannot tell Google's thing to order your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► amazon owns that there's nothing we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► really do about that Amazon is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► to be keen on letting google integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► with its purchases in that way so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► that's one of the things that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► to do and I think it is usual thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► do you are the only choice you have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► amazon and that's why I think we may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► trapped not trapped but like faded to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► talking to multiple semi-intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► assistance referring to them by name in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► the same way that we go to multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► websites to do things like go to Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► when I'm shopping but I go to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► I sale daughter army fridge filters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► I say Google do we have any appointments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► tomorrow afternoon because Google has my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► calendar and alexis has my purchases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► again if these little cylinders like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► they're cheap now they're only going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► get cheaper if they're mostly network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► based off combined with really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► microphones and a tiny little low power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► cpu that's always listening and stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► think that is it aside from any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► global cooperation between these giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► companies which is not going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► talking to different things in our house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► seems to me the most likely outcome of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► all this so I I think I think we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► doomed to have multiple increasingly non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► cylindrical cylinders like eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► just be a bunch of tiny little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► that are dotted all over our house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► having multiple ones that will be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► deal thanks 143 sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► Casper betterment and square space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► mean to begin because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► any research Marco in kc wouldn't let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► and you can find the show know the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► EP die and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► is a yl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► we all saw each other this earlier this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► week actually and Marco this was your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► first probably multi-hundred mile trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► that is right it's the longest trip I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► taken yet and the first trip that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► required a supercharger in the middle so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► how to go when I it before about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► Tesla the the prediction i had was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► this is going to be a car that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► nice and every day used to never have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► go to a gas station and just gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► bit of a pain in the butt when I go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► long car trips we're going to have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► like you know have forced a half-hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► supercharger breaks every like three to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► four hours and it's going to be a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► and everything else but I figured like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► that will be like I will tolerate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► inconvenience for the awesomeness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► car in all the circumstances so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► the first trip we actually had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► realize what it was like to to rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► the supercharger network for your range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► because every other I've got super just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► like twice in the past it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► optional like one time I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► pouring rain and I just need a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► anyway i'm passing one so let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► take a break here we go coffee shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► whatever any of the time I was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► again like you know similar like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► really necessary to stop for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► minutes anyway this is the first time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► had to really stop for like 30 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► I you know we pull up we find it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► that it was the the Delaware rest stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► on i-95 that you know everybody goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► and there's like 12 spots and half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► them were open so I was fine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► pull up plug-in and we went in we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► went to the bathroom and we all got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► know a quick little launched from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6238">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► crappy food places they have in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► wonderful delaware rest stop that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► food's the worst but it's just don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► to the baja fresh because you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► about how fresh that should be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► because real buy fresh stores are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► but this is a buy fresh express and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► that means is that it's a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► terrible pile of garbage that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► baja fresh sign above it but that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► a real baja fresh you never ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► that so you know we we know had lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► everything and before i knew it like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► were just like doing you know basic rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► up before I knew it my car is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► ninety-eight percent and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► trying to rush out of there so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► hit a hundred start getting charged 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► cents a minute for sitting there taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► up a spot on a separately know how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► what were you at when you pulled in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► I forget I somewhere around like 30 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► so that i don't know how did something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► it was amazing like a charge up and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► so like we were stopping anyway and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► know like if we were like if we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► like one of the hardcore long-distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► drivers that like the the total time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► takes you to get where you're going as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► career is very important to you and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► don't like to stop at all then this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► not the car for you but you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► if you stop anyway just like four basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► it's quite something else on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► home I had an even cooler experience I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► was really I was a little bit sick and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► was really tired i could really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► just use a break from driving like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► very I was unreasonably tired just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► because of the because i just i was sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► tiff and Adam went into starbucks to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► some coffee and to give Adam a sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► i sat in the car left the heat on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► left the heated seat on and just took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► nap i leave and leave the seat back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► nice i took like a 20 minute nap so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► I was I'm like this is kind of amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► so my car is filling up with the fuel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► needs for free while I sit in a heated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► nicely heated car with nicely heated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► seat in the winter and take a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► actually I think this is like the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► cock through like that for long road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► trip comfort I've ever seen like I again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► I thought this is going to be some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► of like big hassle on long trips but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► it's only a hassle if you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► there in the small amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► possible but if you are more leisurely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► like we always have been and you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► like stop for lunch at like or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► stop and take a break every so often if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► that's your style of driving this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► best like it is but there's so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► best because it allows you to not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► fill up for free and it for you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► these breaks or intervals but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► process of filling up for free is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► nicer than stopping the gas station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► oh my god it's so it's so actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► I really quite enjoyed it and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► wonderful and i look forward to future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► long trips where I have to use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► surprising but super cool sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► tipsy could new cars gonna have even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► fewer miles and her old one truth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► yeah you still that's the next that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► the next bit of electric car anxiety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► that you have to get over just by doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► it was your like to be sitting there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► will be discharging it should let it sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► there for a week i bet that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► you gotta try it well I ever did I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► the experiment i left my car on plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► here when we went there to kind of try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► that and end up i think it loses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► one or two percent day so it isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► big of a deal but but now I did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► bigger problems i want for my trunk with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► look it you're going to use your car or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► is it just a piece it's just a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► art that you look at their two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► around a lot of my trunk sand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► glitter in vacuum the sand up I promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► yeah yeah you know what i was told that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► about the glitter in my trunk when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► yeah exactly yeah so but saying I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► you have a trunk liner I didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► I've seen your truck at what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► mean it's covered in carpet I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► that's a no right so you can usually by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► you can usually by like a little rubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► thing that goes in there so you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► you know if it's multiple like if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► like some groceries back together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► spill and get sticky stuff wherever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► did basically you don't ruin the carpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► in your car but also if it gets filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► you can take that whole rubber thing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► turned upside down double the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► background put in but even if you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► I promise you you can vacuum sand out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► carpeting in the car it will be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► and finally sand in your car is a badge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► of honor if you are a beach person which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► converting you're right i am a i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► beach town person i like the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► beach town i like the beach environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► I like the beach mindset even but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► I that sand is the sand is a problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► I nicely there i don't see how glitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► can be such the the scourge of humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► that it is and and and it can like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► glitter ruin my my 328 like when I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► that Carly I i got there is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► is a that Christmas which we brought my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► car upstate and it was a year where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► the wrapping paper that was in use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► year contained glitter and the ribbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► all contain glitter and so my entire car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► filled with glitter it never I could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► get it all out of that car i eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► had to turn the car in for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► release it was still there and turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► glittery trunk better i was not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► find for that but they they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► fined me for that even I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► fined me for that you need to nip that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► in the bud like I'm familiar with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► phenomenon wrapping paper with glitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► just say no that cannot enter your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► or someone else brings your present with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► that on it you have to like isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► but by all means when you're wrapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► your own presence do not choose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► paper with glitter on it that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► terrible mistake that should never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► setting aside cars forget about cars for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► justjust in your own home they cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► that cannot be allowed to because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► was all that that caused a rule to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► enacted that no more glitter in my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► ever and no glitter in any part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdT_Uep4/6590">TS</a>]
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