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0:00:00Federico, it's your turn.

0:00:03Oh, I wouldn't have remembered that either.

0:00:07It's in the top of the document.

0:00:09Yeah, but like we've done how many hundreds of episodes where you start?

0:00:14It's true.

0:00:15We got to take time to get used to this. It's normal for you.

0:00:26From really FM. This is connected episode

0:00:28393 my name is Federico. I'm from Italy and it's my pleasure. First of all to thank our four sponsors today

0:00:35Bombas indeed novel and Bambi and also it is additionally my pleasure to introduce one of my co-hosts

0:00:42Specifically the one from the most recently discovered country in our group. Mr. Steven Hackett

0:00:53How does it feel to be in a recently discovered country? It feels it feels it feels okay

0:00:58Yeah, you know well welcome to the show. Thank you your your show also. Yes. It is our show together

0:01:05It is my pleasure to introduce

0:01:10really the

0:01:12He's not the oldest person on the show. He's like the middlest host the host from the middle. Mr. Myke Hurley

0:01:19Hello, it is my pleasure to be here

0:01:23Time zone you're in between me and Federico

0:01:25Middle is brother

0:01:28You've said it last week Michael in the middle Steven. You cannot say the same joke again, okay?

0:01:33Look at that. Yeah. Yeah, what's it?

0:01:36It's been highlighting this point on a weekly basis now like the sort of Myke being in the middle like we get it

0:01:44Steven I think I am in the middle, too

0:01:46Right like if you imagine I am always in the middle right whenever we do live shows it's

0:01:52It's, I'm in the middle, Federer comes on my left,

0:01:55Stephen's on my right, so I am always in the middle.

0:01:57Yeah, that's actually right.

0:01:59And we've always done them that way,

0:02:01except the first one, it was swap the other way around.

0:02:03Even the podcast-a-thon, you and I sat that same way,

0:02:07where I was to your right.

0:02:08But our very first live show, it was all wrong,

0:02:12'cause I was on it the whole time,

0:02:14so I sat in the same chair.

0:02:16Which is-- No one doesn't,

0:02:17I mean, that one kinda counts. That one doesn't count.

0:02:19It doesn't count.

0:02:21Really the genesis of our live shows was that one in that we did in a hotel basement in Chicago

0:02:26That's where I mean we can trace a lot of things back to that episode

0:02:31But that was kind of like the first idea of how we do a live show

0:02:35And I think we stayed in that same seating arrangement ever since it's the one I surprised you with a iBook g3

0:02:41Mm-hmm and the bees the bees are the thing the bees

0:02:44That's the real at some point you all stood up to play like a iPhone game on your phone

0:02:50Yeah, I went I went rogue and started playing AR basketball.

0:02:54Well, let's start with some follow-up. We have some, speaking of bees, speaking of bees,

0:02:59some very important API news. Jason Snell is out there just requesting things of people,

0:03:08and he usually gets gets what he wants. He had wanted an API for Ricky's information,

0:03:15so rookies.co/api, there is a now a JSON file call.

0:03:20I don't know what this is called.

0:03:25A JSON for JSON is what it is.

0:03:28And you can poll who is the keynote

0:03:32and annual chairman at any given time.

0:03:35- And there's a little bit more information too.

0:03:37I think it's been growing over the last week.

0:03:40There's like more data being put into the API.

0:03:44Yeah, they're exposing the location Twitter and Memoji profile image as a PNG,

0:03:50but also there's already some examples of the API, including, and I cannot believe I'm saying this,

0:03:57there's an Obsidian plugin for this. Now what? You can...

0:04:03This part I don't fully understand.

0:04:05You? There's a plugin that you can download for Obsidian and you can install it in Obsidian,

0:04:10and it installs a command, it seems, that's called, let's see, "Paste annual chairman".

0:04:18And basically, for whatever reason, if you ever want to quickly paste the correct chairman

0:04:27information in Obsidian, you can install a plugin for it that checks the Ricky's API and returns the

0:04:36correct chairman data point for you. This is incredible. There's also a widget that was made

0:04:45by Raymond Velasquez to display a very nicely formatted version of this data in Scriptable.

0:04:55So Scriptable, the JavaScript app by Simon Storring, it lets you create custom widgets

0:05:00for the home screen and those custom widgets are actually based on code. So you can draw all the

0:05:05graphics and the text layout and all that kind of stuff in JavaScript, and you can render

0:05:10all that out to a widget. And there is a very nice widget for the Ricky's API now. You can

0:05:17see the keynote chairman and the other chairman, and there's the picture of the trophy. What's

0:05:21the name of the cup?

0:05:25Oh, what is it? Hang on, I'm going to the Ricky's page. There's a very particular name

0:05:31for it that Lex created.

0:05:34It is called...

0:05:35The Passion Cup.

0:05:36The Passion Cup.

0:05:37Yeah, so that's a very nice widget.

0:05:40And looking at the...

0:05:43I'm looking at the API web page.

0:05:45Yeah, they have a whole new section for API uses.

0:05:49So I guess if you're making something with this API, maybe a shortcut, maybe something

0:05:52along those lines, I guess get in touch with Lex and you can probably end up on this page.

0:05:59I have no idea about the Obsidian plugin.

0:06:02That's incredible.

0:06:03Hilarious.

0:06:04I do hope people enjoy doing these things.

0:06:08Well, you know, we're not forcing anybody.

0:06:09No, we're not.

0:06:10I just hope that people do it out of enjoyment and love,

0:06:12you know?

0:06:13That's the hope.

0:06:14That is the hope.

0:06:16So thank you, whoever is playing around with this.

0:06:19Thank you, Lex, obviously.

0:06:20Because I know I love it.

0:06:21It's cool.

0:06:22I don't understand why anybody needs this information

0:06:24in their obsidian, but I'm happy that it exists.

0:06:28Sometimes you're just looking at Markdown,

0:06:30and you must think, I wonder who's

0:06:32chairman of comer. Let me just fire off this plug-in. I didn't tell y'all I got some mail

0:06:40the other day from fur kids. I'm looking at rickys.co/charities. I had to really think

0:06:47about what that was for a minute. I'm like hang on a minute, what's this? Are we into

0:06:52dangerous territory here? It's a charity. It's a rescue and shelter charity for animals

0:07:00and I donated $100 for losing the Flexys to Federico

0:07:04in September of 2020.

0:07:06- Oh, I didn't even know this charity page existed.

0:07:08- Yes, it's also a newer feature.

0:07:10- That's so good.

0:07:11- And it has, yeah, I'm on their mailing list forever.

0:07:14So they sent me a thing.

0:07:17- UNICEF is the winner though,

0:07:18if such a thing could be considered.

0:07:20- 'Cause we all donated.

0:07:22- Yeah.

0:07:23- Myke has never, oh, you made one donation.

0:07:25You donated to St. Jude once.

0:07:27- Yeah.

0:07:29along with coin flips, Flexis is the thing that I've done the best in.

0:07:33Federico, I wanted to check in on Automation April.

0:07:36I know you guys have been doing some stuff, so get us up to date.

0:07:40Well, it's a week two of Automation April.

0:07:43It's been going really well.

0:07:44We received a ton of submissions for the Automation April contest.

0:07:48So that's still ongoing.

0:07:50You have another week to submit your shortcuts.

0:07:52The contests, the entries, they close next Wednesday,

0:07:57But about this time, I think, on the 20th.

0:08:00So you've got another week to submit up to two shortcuts.

0:08:03And we already started evaluating with the judges

0:08:08all the shortcuts that people have been submitting,

0:08:10but they're still sending them.

0:08:11So you've got another week.

0:08:13We will also be hosting another workshop next week,

0:08:18I think, before the contest wraps up.

0:08:20So that's going to be useful.

0:08:22We're going to be talking about some more advanced techniques.

0:08:25Maybe it's going to give you some last-minute ideas for something to submit for the contest.

0:08:30We've also been busy on the content side.

0:08:33So just today, for example, I shared 10 more shortcuts on Mac Stories.

0:08:39So these are all free for everybody.

0:08:42They are in the article. They are, of course, in the Shortcuts Archive, which is now approaching 280 shortcuts, I believe.

0:08:50Whoa!

0:08:51Yeah, well, I think we're going to be at 300 by the end of the year, for sure.

0:08:54sure, because once I share my other 10, as I mentioned before, I prepared 30 shortcuts

0:09:01for Automation April. Today I'm up to 20 that I've shared on Mac Stories. So once I share the last

0:09:08batch of 10, next week we're going to be at over 280. So by the end of 2022 I think we'll be at 300

0:09:16for sure. So I shared 10 more today. There's a bunch of, you know, there's shortcuts for everybody

0:09:22in there. There's one that I really like for multitasking on the Mac where it lets you

0:09:28create like, it's called Split View Presets. So the idea is that you create your own presets

0:09:34of two apps that you want to put together side by side quickly. And then you choose

0:09:40from a list of these presets and the shortcut arranges the windows for you.

0:09:44Oh, I'm going to get this one.

0:09:46Yeah, so for example, I find myself often doing Safari plus Obsidian, you know, or Discord

0:09:52and Messages. And that's the idea. You make your own list of two things and you make your

0:09:58own presets and then choose from a list. And another one that I really like is this automation

0:10:03that I set up on my iPhone, because I've been trying the Twitter app again just to refresh

0:10:10my knowledge. You know, I do this every few months. I want to see WhatsApp. I want to,

0:10:14you know, check out the algorithmic timeline again.

0:10:16I want to try Twitter Blue again, which I can.

0:10:20Don't ask me why, but, you know, with my fake US accounts, yes.

0:10:24I found a way.

0:10:26But the Twitter app...

0:10:27Elon hooked you up.

0:10:28The Twitter app, now when you copy a link, it appends these ugly tracking parameters

0:10:32to the tweet, and I really dislike them.

0:10:36So I created this automation that cleans up the links for me whenever I close Twitter.

0:10:40It runs in the background.

0:10:42tell me anything even, but it cleans the links for me, so that when I go into Discord or

0:10:48messages and I paste the link to a tweet, that's the cleaned version of the link. It

0:10:55doesn't have the junk at the end, so that's cool. And yesterday, the one true John shared

0:11:00this really incredible thing that he built, which is called MyTunes. So basically, a good

0:11:06way to describe it is John created his own private personalized MTV channel using a combination

0:11:15of shortcuts to actions. So basically John found a way to turn YouTube videos for music

0:11:22stuff that he finds online every day. He saves them offline and he uses the channels app

0:11:30running on his Mac mini server to build this private TV channel. It even shows up in the

0:11:39channel's TV guide as a custom channel and wherever it is, it can tune into his own TV

0:11:46station essentially.

0:11:47And the TV station...

0:11:48OTJ TV.

0:11:50That TV station is called MyTunes.

0:11:52No, it should be called OTJ TV. Come on.

0:11:55Or it could be called, you know, one of those, what are they called? Like one of those like

0:12:00local broadcasting, like, I don't know, give me an example. Like, you know, you know, like

0:12:08American TV, the local versions of certain broadcasts. Like an affiliate? Yeah, they

0:12:15have very specific names with numbers and acronyms in them. Stephen, you need to help

0:12:21here. Oh come on like... Yeah affiliates like okay so like our local CBS station, CBS is a national

0:12:29thing, their local affiliate is like WREGTV channel 3. Yeah exactly that kind of stuff. It's an affiliate.

0:12:35Yeah OTJTV. OTJTV. Ochdv. Federico I have a question for you. Yeah. Have you yet faced the possibility

0:12:48that you made Year of Luigi this?

0:12:50Yeah.

0:12:52Automation April.

0:12:53Yeah.

0:12:54Has it crossed your mind yet that you might become in,

0:12:57like might hit a Year of Luigi like problem?

0:13:00What does that mean?

0:13:02Where it stretches outside of April.

0:13:04A Year of Steven.

0:13:06No, it's impossible.

0:13:06I am literally gonna be...

0:13:08Well, he does say that.

0:13:09What if you got 75,000 of submissions?

0:13:13Well, it won't matter.

0:13:17I will be done by the end of April.

0:13:19- Interesting. - So someone will do it.

0:13:22So I can suggest that the passionate ones submit their shortcuts

0:13:27to see if you can do it.

0:13:29I will not be-- I know for a fact that I will not be dealing with this in May.

0:13:34So no matter what, I'm going to pull a bunch of all-nighters, I don't care.

0:13:37I'm going to be, you know, if the judges won't be able to help me,

0:13:41and I think they will, but in that case,

0:13:43I will just personally check out everything that I can.

0:13:46because I need a break in April in May so I'm this will get done I've already

0:13:52Stephen I've already suggested to Federico I've given him a name already if

0:13:57he needs to extend it another month right Federico do you remember the name

0:14:01that I gave you for if you're gonna do it in May nope no automation nope I sent

0:14:10this to him and John I said you two are so lucky that I don't work with you

0:14:14It's terrible because as Federico said he would need to say it every single time automation

0:14:22is terrible right like you can't you know it doesn't work automation April is better

0:14:27automation but if you need to extend it that's just sitting there for you or you could go

0:14:35to automation August if you really are in trouble.

0:14:38of this is gonna happen so it will I am sorry but these are all terrible ideas

0:14:44you want to May June no so how do we get you lying there yeah yeah that you have

0:14:52to take a break in July July July July nation no if you're set all the way up

0:15:02to September now shortcut September yep yeah so this is not gonna happen none of

0:15:08None of this is going to happen. October

0:15:10tobermation, octo mation,

0:15:14so this is all I like the energy here, but this is none of this is going to

0:15:23happen so okay, the entries, so you're never going to talk about automation

0:15:26again after April

0:15:27after a all out of your system after April, I'm going to be, you know all

0:15:34shortcuts out for at least a month, you know, until June, until iOS 16. So keep sending

0:15:42your entries. You got another week to do that. And then we're going to take 10 days to evaluate

0:15:48and test and judge everything. And in the meantime, we'll keep sharing things, right?

0:15:53On Mac stories, we got more interviews, plans, the Discord stuff, the giveaways. We have

0:15:59that, it's really beautiful system for giveaways now that is so good. Like we don't need to

0:16:04to use Google Forms anymore in Discord. The Mac Sorrys bot now has this nice system for

0:16:10entering giveaways and picking random winners. So thank you, Alex, for doing that. You just

0:16:15gotta click a button and the bot does it all on its own. So that's cool. And that's it.

0:16:20We're just busy writing, making shortcuts, doing things, running into Apple bugs, as

0:16:25always. Today I shared a shortcut where it copies a link to the clipboard, right? Easy

0:16:35enough. You just use the Copy to Clipboard action. But if you check out my shortcut,

0:16:39you will see that I have two copy actions back to back in the shortcut, and you may

0:16:43be wondering why two actions for the same thing. Well, turns out sometimes just one

0:16:48copy action is not enough. Sometimes you use the Copy action and it doesn't actually copy,

0:16:54But if you put another copy action after that, that works.

0:16:57It's like it needs a little extra nudge to copy things to the clipboard for you.

0:17:02So that's fun, you know.

0:17:04Hopefully all this stuff will be fixed in iOS 16.

0:17:07It's like I never set just one alarm in the morning, you know?

0:17:10Just set two.

0:17:11Sometimes I need more than one.

0:17:13Sometimes you gotta do the same with shortcut actions.

0:17:14Just make sure there's another one.

0:17:15I actually set like ten, but that's a story for another time, I guess.

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0:18:56roast me daddy

0:18:58The only reason to keep doing this recurring segment is I get to say it we got to find more things to roast just

0:19:11Yeah, we'll find it. I'll just go back around to the start again. I was thinking about this right like in about a

0:19:17Six to nine months from now we do iPhones again

0:19:20They're gonna change or we can do like the meta episode where it's roast my roast where we go over previous roasts and love it

0:19:28Roast each other over those how you do it, but today we roast in desks

0:19:33Yes

0:19:35This was very fun to me because we knew we were gonna do a roast and I thought to myself

0:19:40We should roast desks. I didn't tell anyone and then Steven said let's roast desks and I was like brilliant

0:19:45That's when you know, you found the right thing, you know, what do they call that?

0:19:49Simultaneous creation. Is that what they call that?

0:19:51simultaneous ideation

0:19:54ideation

0:19:55Ideation that's a good word

0:19:57Ideation is a good word, right?

0:20:00ideation ideation

0:20:02ideation

0:20:04Why just one had just idea?

0:20:07Ideation because like having the idea right so it sounds like ID action ID

0:20:13Automation

0:20:17Okay, let's start with Stevens desk

0:20:20So can I clear the picture now and I'll put it in the discord? Okay. Let's see

0:20:26Mmm, why?

0:20:28Okay

0:20:30Okay, so I mean one thing that's immediately obvious to me having just actually been in Stevens pod cabin

0:20:36is this desk is now touching the wall?

0:20:40- Right. - Where previously,

0:20:42there was a big cabinet that had a very large computer

0:20:45and it had a bunch of holes inside.

0:20:47- Yes, yeah, the Mac Pro is gone,

0:20:49and so the desk slid down closer to the wall,

0:20:52away from the door a little bit.

0:20:53- Okay.

0:20:54- So the first thing I've noticed is that

0:20:58it looks like you are in the center of the United States

0:21:02because your face is there.

0:21:05(laughing)

0:21:06Wow, Steven's planted his flag.

0:21:09That's right.

0:21:10Yeah, a lot of people ask me about this.

0:21:12My wallpaper comes via a Mac app called Downlink

0:21:17and it pulls real-time satellite images

0:21:19and sets it as your wallpaper every X number of minutes.

0:21:23And I've used it on both my computers.

0:21:25I've used it forever and I really like it

0:21:27'cause it's always like slightly different, you know,

0:21:29depending on what the weather's doing.

0:21:31And I like weather.

0:21:32So this is actually your desktop.

0:21:33It's not a screensaver.

0:21:35It is a desktop, yeah.

0:21:36It's not-- Your wallpaper.

0:21:38The clouds don't move,

0:21:39just the picture's updated every 20 minutes or whatever.

0:21:42Oh my God, that stream deck is so big.

0:21:44Yeah, it's the XL.

0:21:45That's the XL, that's the one we're giving away.

0:21:49How many buttons is that?

0:21:50Four times--

0:21:5324?

0:21:55No, more.

0:21:5627?

0:21:5732?

0:21:58116.

0:21:5932, it's 32 buttons.

0:22:0132, 32, yeah. 32 buttons.

0:22:03Eight by four.

0:22:04And I have all but four of them taken up right now.

0:22:06So a few things to pick apart here.

0:22:10Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, you know,

0:22:12it's basically perfect.

0:22:14What's with the rocks on the left?

0:22:18Oh yeah, look at those rocks up there.

0:22:19Yeah, so that's the window

0:22:21that used to be on the outside of the building

0:22:22and now it's in the middle of the building.

0:22:24Those rocks are from two different beaches

0:22:26that we've taken family vacations to.

0:22:29Isn't that illegal?

0:22:30Wow, you've stolen from nature?

0:22:32I think you're not supposed to do that.

0:22:33Well, I did twice, and they're up there.

0:22:36And now you've admitted to it on an international podcast.

0:22:39I won't say where, a case of jurisdiction.

0:22:41Yeah.

0:22:42Purposes, you know, purposes.

0:22:43Why all the pens, and follow-up question,

0:22:48why a first-generation pencil in the mug?

0:22:51It's actually a first and a second-generation pencil.

0:22:54Also a mug from Waffle House?

0:22:58Yeah, a friend of mine stole that

0:23:01from Waffle House for me in high school.

0:23:03Why so many stolen things?

0:23:05It's just those three things.

0:23:06You just happened to name--

0:23:08Yeah, there's quite a lot of theft occurring in this desk.

0:23:10It's just the three things that you happen to pick up on.

0:23:13This is the desk cover thing.

0:23:14So far.

0:23:15Yeah.

0:23:16Everything we might mention may be stolen.

0:23:18It's a lot of pins.

0:23:20Yeah, I don't know.

0:23:20They just kind of pile up in there.

0:23:22Well, yeah, 'cause you take them from people.

0:23:24Is the Mac studio stolen?

0:23:26No, I paid good money for that.

0:23:27Don't worry.

0:23:28Yeah, whatever.

0:23:29Sure.

0:23:30Those toy cars definitely stolen from your children?

0:23:33No, well no, stolen from my childhood.

0:23:36You brought them with you like for the last 60 years?

0:23:39Like wait, do you mean that those were actually yours when you were a kid?

0:23:43Okay, so the Lego car on the right was like my prized Lego creation when I was a kid.

0:23:49Years and years ago my mom gave us like the big bin of Lego we had as kids and I fished that out.

0:23:56- The keys on the bottom.

0:23:57- Yeah. - That's smart.

0:23:58- Yeah, so you can do things off road.

0:24:00- It's ready for all weather.

0:24:02- The pickup was like my favorite Hot Wheels

0:24:03and now I drive a Toyota pickup

0:24:05that's not all that different from that, so that's fun.

0:24:08The third one is the Mars Rover.

0:24:10I don't know where I got that.

0:24:11It was a gift from somebody and it's just next to it.

0:24:14- Harmon Sound6. - Why are you using a mouse

0:24:17from 1965?

0:24:19- Yes, also that.

0:24:20- It's the only one I've used that doesn't hurt my hand,

0:24:23which is also why the keyboard you and I built together

0:24:25on my desk right now. Does it hurt your hands?

0:24:30Is it wired because it's charging or because you use it wired? It is wired

0:24:37because the battery doesn't really hold a charge anymore. So it's wired because

0:24:41you leave it wired right? That's the active answer to that question. If the battery

0:24:45doesn't work anymore you now have a wired mouse. It does use one of the

0:24:51little Logitech dongles and there's one hanging out behind the Pro display. Even

0:24:55you use it plugged in? It doesn't work as a USB mouse. Oh my god, really? Memphis

0:25:02Tigers? Yeah. Home visitor? What is this? Is this a clock? It's a clock with the calendar.

0:25:09It's a sports thing though, right? Yeah, it's supposed to look like a scoreboard. Wait, the Memphis Tigers

0:25:15are not the Memphis... what's the other team? Grizzlies. The Grizzlies are the NBA team, Tigers is

0:25:21the college team so that's supposed to look like a like a football scoreboard I

0:25:26guess. No but Grizzlies are the basketball team. Yeah NBA basketball team. And the Tigers are the...

0:25:32College basketball team. College basketball. College soccer team. Oh they're all of those things. Yes any of the

0:25:39college teams from the University of Memphis are called the Tigers. Oh okay.

0:25:44Because that's the university's thing right? That's the university's mascot. I

0:25:48I have a question about the sound sticks, the Harman Kardon sound sticks.

0:25:52I never noticed that the basses were black and I don't know why they did that.

0:25:55They should be clear, right?

0:25:56They should be clear. Why are they black?

0:25:58I don't know.

0:25:59Is it possible they're just dirty?

0:26:01[Laughter]

0:26:02Have you considered that?

0:26:04It's possible. They are pretty old.

0:26:05How are you feeling about having that big old computer, that thick computer on your desk?

0:26:10It's fine.

0:26:11How does it feel? Are you okay with it? Not too loud?

0:26:14No. I can only hear it if I really like sit and try to focus on the sound.

0:26:17Oh, Stephen, you've just been roasted in the Discord by James.

0:26:23Mine are not black. I have the originals.

0:26:27Okay, so mine aren't the original.

0:26:29Wow, Stephen Hackett, famed collector, no longer has the original sound sticks.

0:26:34You've got the repuff version of the sound sticks.

0:26:36To be fair, I didn't pay for the sound sticks either. They're not stolen. They're not stolen.

0:26:41Wait, wait. I didn't pay for them, but I have them.

0:26:44Yeah, years and years ago when I was consulting a client gave them to me.

0:26:48They were like cleaning out their office, so "hey do you want these?" and I said "yes" and I've had them ever since.

0:26:52Did you pick them up, look in the mirror and say "hey do you want these?"

0:26:57No.

0:26:59Oh to be fair though, James's are silver, they're not clear.

0:27:04Yeah.

0:27:05I don't know, there's something about this desk, smells fishy to me.

0:27:12Well part of the problem Federico is you know as you can note here this is not a

0:27:16whole the whole desk is it? Do you want the whole thing? Yeah. Well there's

0:27:20clearly a whole other part of the desk. Okay hang on a second I'll back up and take a whole

0:27:23picture hang on. It's too mmm. It's manicured. I'm not listening to you anymore.

0:27:27Yeah it's it's it's yes. It's fishy. Yeah. Something fishy going on. You see how he

0:27:33has these $6,000 computer but he has to put a webcam on the top of it? Yes.

0:27:37Well, to be fair, it is about a webcam and the one in my studio display, but my studio

0:27:42display didn't cost $6,000, you know, so I'm gonna say.

0:27:46Also, who does this guy think he is? Look, he has an Elgato key light for when he has

0:27:50conference calls.

0:27:51Oh, that's an Elgato one? That's an Elgato one?

0:27:55Yeah.

0:27:56It's like, oh, gotta make sure people see me at my best.

0:28:00Look at me, I look good.

0:28:01Yeah. I haven't got enough light in here already. Let's have a light on when I'm on a conference

0:28:06call. Hi, it's me, Steven.

0:28:07Still taking a picture? How slow is he?

0:28:10I don't know what he's doing right now.

0:28:12Maybe he's doing a panorama or something. I know he has a big desk.

0:28:15Seriously, what's taking him so long?

0:28:17Stephen, are you like there and just making fun of us now?

0:28:20No, I was taking a picture, but I realized I had a picture of my family on my desk,

0:28:24because I needed to move, so then I retook the picture.

0:28:26Oh, okay. So you took a really, really, really long time.

0:28:28We were making fun of the fact that you have a key light on your desk.

0:28:30I do. Yeah, I do a bunch of video meetings.

0:28:33You look best in those conference calls.

0:28:35Yeah, but like do you need to be well lit? I don't know. Do you?

0:28:38Lit all the time.

0:28:39You tell me I guess.

0:28:40[Laughs]

0:28:43Is that what we don't see?

0:28:45Yeah.

0:28:45On the desk.

0:28:46Alright, I'm sending you all the whole picture.

0:28:48Alright.

0:28:49Where? On Discord or iMessage?

0:28:50In iMessage. I'm putting a tweaked version in Discord. Just a second.

0:28:55See, I knew there was more stuff going on.

0:28:58This is a whole different perspective for this desk. Okay.

0:29:03Look, oh look at that Coca-Cola vanilla in the trash can.

0:29:06Steven's been getting crazy.

0:29:09- Where'd you see the trash can?

0:29:10Oh, I see, I see.

0:29:11- You've always gotta look under the desk, man.

0:29:13That's where people hide their shame.

0:29:15- Is that vanilla Coca-Cola?

0:29:18Is that a thing that exists?

0:29:18- Yeah, because Steven bought me a vanilla Coke

0:29:20and then drank it.

0:29:21- Accidentally.

0:29:23Forgot it was yours.

0:29:23- It was very funny.

0:29:24I only bring this up 'cause he's like,

0:29:25"Myke, I've gotta tell you something.

0:29:27"I'm really sorry.

0:29:27"I drank that vanilla Coke that I bought you."

0:29:29I was like, "I don't, it's fine.

0:29:30"I'm fine with it."

0:29:31But he was very upset about the fact

0:29:33did that. Wow. Okay, okay, okay. What is that black piece of plastic on the desk next to

0:29:42your lamp? Oh, that is where I had a fracture of my kids and I took that down for the public

0:29:47photo. Okay, fair enough. If only there was an app to easily block out people's faces

0:29:53from a picture. Yeah, you should look into that. What is the power strip? What's that?

0:29:59fancy about that like why why uh i like having outlets at the top of the desk that has a

0:30:03couple usbs and then i got my is there anything special about it like it looks like a power strip

0:30:09that costs a lot of money yeah it came it came from the same company that makes the desk so it

0:30:14was a little expensive okay um all right so what's with the what what are the tools underneath the

0:30:23the lamp and follow up, what is the blue character hanging from the lamp?

0:30:28That's a super Grover.

0:30:29What is it?

0:30:30It's a Sesame Street thing.

0:30:32Okay.

0:30:33Very first gift Mary ever gave me was like a little super Grover because we talked about

0:30:37him and she got me a little Christmas ornament and he used to hang in my car for the rear

0:30:43view mirror but now he hangs in here.

0:30:44Well done, well done because we have additional information here now.

0:30:48I'm looking at the dock.

0:30:50So find your timer, Google clone.

0:30:53- We're not roasting the dog.

0:30:53- No, no, no, we've done that before.

0:30:55We don't need to roast the dog today.

0:30:56- Well, it's on the desk, so just double checking.

0:30:59- We don't need to roast the dog today.

0:31:02I agree with Kate that the second image is fun

0:31:04because the first image is on Steven's desktop.

0:31:07So it's like desk within desk now.

0:31:10- Yeah, that's good.

0:31:11- Which is good.

0:31:12- In-ear monitors?

0:31:13- Yes.

0:31:14- Are you wearing those now?

0:31:15- Yep. - Okay.

0:31:16- Right now.

0:31:17- Okay.

0:31:17- Zooming in, I don't see any wax on them,

0:31:19so good work on that.

0:31:20- Thank you.

0:31:21on the ear hygiene. Thank you. Good job there. I don't know, this feels more real as a desk

0:31:32of a busy person, so thank you for the honesty. Although I don't like how we had to request

0:31:39the additional photo evidence. Sorry. It's almost like you wanted to hide something from us. Well,

0:31:44he did. He was away and he was hiding, right? Like, we know that. We know that now, but we'll

0:31:49never truly know what was hidden. I feel like I kind of escaped with that much roasting.

0:31:53Wait, we're not... who said we're done? I never said I was done. Why is the trackpad on the mouse

0:32:01pad and the mouse off the desk? So I... when I record, I use just the trackpad because the

0:32:06mouse button is loud and the mouse, because it has to stay plugged in because it's ancient,

0:32:11just kind of gets scooted up above it and then I just move the trackpad over. Right. Normally it's

0:32:15Normally it's on the left like it is in the...

0:32:17I just noticed something that was hiding in the background and it's very creepy.

0:32:23Okay.

0:32:24I'm pasting this in the Discord.

0:32:26Why is there a Mac Mini hanging from the scene in the background?

0:32:34I did.

0:32:35I explained it.

0:32:36What is going on there?

0:32:37How ominous though, what is there like that?

0:32:38What?

0:32:39Yeah, I explained it in my video tour of the pod cabin.

0:32:43That was a Mac Mini that was like my brother's first video editing machine and then it was

0:32:51relays for a live streaming server and then when we retired it, I turned it into that

0:32:56thing.

0:32:57It's like a mobile.

0:32:58When Steven retires, he's going to make computer art.

0:33:04Oh, I should do it now.

0:33:05Then I could retire now.

0:33:06You already do.

0:33:07You have multiple things in your studio.

0:33:09Yeah.

0:33:10You haven't seen the iMac mouse dreamcatcher.

0:33:14Do you want a picture of that?

0:33:16Are you being serious?

0:33:18Yeah, let me take a picture of this.

0:33:19You made a dreamcatcher out of iMac mouse?

0:33:22Yeah.

0:33:23Wait, what?

0:33:24That's not a joke.

0:33:25When did you do this?

0:33:26I think it was up when you were here.

0:33:27Hang on, I gotta take my headphones out.

0:33:28I'm gonna take a picture.

0:33:29Oh, I don't think of that as a dreamcatcher.

0:33:31It's kind of like a dreamcatcher.

0:33:33Hang on, we'll see what the Discord says.

0:33:34Alright, yeah, that's fine.

0:33:36What else have we got here, Federico?

0:33:38You just got...

0:33:39No, that's the only thing, I think.

0:33:42He got a big sticker on his laptop.

0:33:44Yeah, NASA.

0:33:46You see that drawer? You know he stuffed all of the secrets in that drawer.

0:33:50Yeah, I think I can make out a USB-A dongle, like that little white plastic thing in the drawer.

0:33:56It's just more stolen stuff. He just threw it in that drawer.

0:33:59I was trying to make out anything else in the trash, but all I can see is the Coca-Cola.

0:34:03Yeah.

0:34:06You can tell a lot of things by immense trash, you know?

0:34:08No.

0:34:09Oh, he's back.

0:34:11Hello.

0:34:12Where's the stream catching him?

0:34:14I'm putting it in Discord right now.

0:34:16All of these images will be in the show notes too,

0:34:19if you're not listening live, which is most of you.

0:34:21Oh my god, this is more creepy than the Mac Mini.

0:34:24Yeah, I don't think we can do Roast My Shelves today.

0:34:27No, jeez.

0:34:29That would take a six-part episode series

0:34:33to roast Steven Shelves.

0:34:36Roast my Calax.

0:34:38(laughing)

0:34:39This pox just hanging from the shelves,

0:34:44they remind me of like some old people in Italy,

0:34:47they season sausages by hanging them from the ceiling.

0:34:50They also do this with prosciutto sometimes,

0:34:54like they're just hanging that there,

0:34:56like seasoned meats, you know, just hanging there.

0:34:59- He's aging the mice, that's all right.

0:35:01- He's aging the mice.

0:35:03Oh, this is a cool shelf though.

0:35:06Thank you.

0:35:07- For another time.

0:35:09From my perspective, Steven, you are released.

0:35:12- Okay, I feel pretty intact.

0:35:14- Okay.

0:35:15- Oh God, I'm gonna be destroyed now.

0:35:17- We'll find out.

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0:37:19- All right, it's teach you time.

0:37:22So what we got?

0:37:22We've got two things here.

0:37:23We start with the deck.

0:37:25We've got like the desk and then also the shelves.

0:37:28- And the above desk.

0:37:30Alright, so the desk image includes the above desk, but we're not going to pay attention

0:37:34to the above desk part of the first image.

0:37:36We'll zoom and enhance to that later.

0:37:39My immediate question is, I can't tell if that's a reflection of your dog in a mirror

0:37:44or a painting of your dog sitting on something else.

0:37:47That is horrifyingly good.

0:37:50It's a painting, right?

0:37:51It's a print.

0:37:52It's a photo.

0:37:53It's a photo?

0:37:54Okay, I was going to say, if somebody's painted that, that person needs to, I don't know,

0:37:57go to the Louvre.

0:37:59It's a photo. It's a really good photo that a couple of friends of mine gave me for my

0:38:03birthday last year.

0:38:05I noticed you don't have your trash can where we can see it. So you don't want us to know

0:38:09about your...

0:38:10I don't have a trash can. I don't have a trash can.

0:38:12Wow.

0:38:13In the... under my desk.

0:38:14Okay.

0:38:15It's a very small space so...

0:38:16It is.

0:38:17...there's not enough room for a trash can.

0:38:19I don't believe that at all.

0:38:21Well...

0:38:22You just don't... you just don't want us to look in the trash.

0:38:24My Roomba now lives under my desk, so that's literally... and I sit on the other side.

0:38:30So where does the trash go then?

0:38:33If I want to throw something in the trash I gotta get up and go in the kitchen and trash

0:38:37it there, you know?

0:38:39I feel like this desk setup is a bit of a lie.

0:38:43No it's...

0:38:44Oh god.

0:38:45Yeah, you know what, actually, we gave you a lot of crap, Steven, for saying that your

0:38:50desk was a lie.

0:38:52This desk looks like a lie.

0:38:53Nothing is plugged into this MacBook Pro whatsoever.

0:38:57- Yeah, that's...

0:38:59- Wait, do you not record plugged in?

0:39:01- Sometimes I don't.

0:39:02- Yeah, where's all your audio gear?

0:39:04- Yeah, where's your microphone?

0:39:06- It's in the notes, like it's everything,

0:39:08but it's missing the audio gear.

0:39:11When I'm not recording my audio gear,

0:39:13every single time I'm done recording,

0:39:15I put it back into the closet so that it does...

0:39:18I don't like having stuff around.

0:39:21I like having a clean desk as much as possible.

0:39:23But as you can see, that's not really--

0:39:26- Seems like a lot of work for someone who podcasts

0:39:27as much as you do. - Yeah, I know.

0:39:28But also I really dislike the idea of having cables

0:39:30just lying around all the time.

0:39:32I don't have enough room to clamp my microphone.

0:39:35- Man, you're gonna have a great time

0:39:36when you get to my desk.

0:39:37(laughing)

0:39:38- Yeah, I know.

0:39:39I can't imagine.

0:39:40So every single time I am done recording,

0:39:46I unplug everything and I put it back into the closet.

0:39:49Also, sometimes I don't record plugged in.

0:39:52Like for example, right now my battery is at 11,

0:39:55no, not 11%, it's at 1000.

0:39:57(laughing)

0:39:58Not 1000, oh my God, what is it called?

0:40:00100, 100%.

0:40:01Did you say 1000?

0:40:03Yeah.

0:40:03Cent?

0:40:04An extra zero.

0:40:05Miele.

0:40:06(laughing)

0:40:07Miele.

0:40:08Got that GaN charger going.

0:40:09(laughing)

0:40:12When I'm all topped up, sometimes I don't plug it in.

0:40:17and just record on battery power.

0:40:19I like to live dangerously.

0:40:21- Yep.

0:40:22Well, I can see the charger anyway,

0:40:23so it's not very far away.

0:40:24- Yeah, it's right there in the back.

0:40:26- It's right there.

0:40:26I can see it, it's sitting right there.

0:40:28I'm pointing at it next to some papers.

0:40:30- I know we're gonna get to the upper section later,

0:40:33but on the shelf, you have like a little clock

0:40:36and temperature thing it looks like.

0:40:38- Yes, it's the, it's not called the El Gato anymore.

0:40:42- E-Kobe?

0:40:43- No, the Eve. - Eve.

0:40:44- Eve, yeah.

0:40:45- Room, Eve room, maybe?

0:40:47Eve room, yes.

0:40:48You've got a vase with a flower in it,

0:40:50I'm sure, assume that has some sort of

0:40:52sentimental value to you.

0:40:53I honestly don't know why it's there.

0:40:55It's been there for years.

0:40:57You know what, Steven?

0:40:59Funnily enough, when I saw it, I was like,

0:41:01he doesn't know what that flower's about.

0:41:02I don't, yep, I honestly have no idea.

0:41:05I just know that it's there, it's supposed to be there.

0:41:07I don't know why.

0:41:08Next to that, you have a spray bottle of something.

0:41:12What is that?

0:41:13What is that?

0:41:14cleaning product for screens.

0:41:17- Why is it on display?

0:41:19- So prominent.

0:41:20Like you won't have your microphone out,

0:41:23but that will.

0:41:24There's three things on this shelf.

0:41:26That's one of them.

0:41:28- Yeah, so I find myself cleaning my displays

0:41:33on a regular basis.

0:41:36I think- - Very dirty screens over there.

0:41:38- Well, the thing is- - There's this pasta sauce

0:41:40all over them. - So both Ginger and Zelda,

0:41:43They like to, like sometimes just smell the screen.

0:41:47I don't know why.

0:41:48And they leave their, you know,

0:41:50their nose prints on the screen.

0:41:54And so I gotta clean it.

0:41:55And also I gotta be honest, I gotta be honest, okay?

0:42:00I still, it's been months

0:42:02that I've been using this MacBook.

0:42:05But still on a, maybe not daily basis,

0:42:08but more than once per week,

0:42:12I just accidentally touch the screen.

0:42:14You know, I just, yeah, I just touch it like it's an iPad.

0:42:19And so it's got all my gross dirty fingerprints all over it.

0:42:21And so that's why the cleaning product is there.

0:42:24But I should also be honest about the cleaning product.

0:42:28I got it as a joke.

0:42:29Remember when I was doing the memes

0:42:32for the Apple polishing cloth?

0:42:33- Oh yeah.

0:42:35- Yeah, so I wanted to do like this serious comparison

0:42:38between like the Apple polishing cloth

0:42:40and a cloth that I got from Amazon.

0:42:42But the only cloth that I could get from Amazon

0:42:45in a couple of days included the cleaning product.

0:42:47And then I never had the time to do the actual article

0:42:51about the Apple polishing cloth.

0:42:52So I was stuck with the Amazon cloth

0:42:55and the cleaning product.

0:42:56So yeah, I'm still using the cleaning product.

0:42:59- You kind of played yourself really.

0:43:01- Yeah, I kind of played myself.

0:43:02I kind of wish it like 12 years or something.

0:43:04- I mean, did you?

0:43:05Because you ended up in the New York Times.

0:43:06- But friendship has ended with New York Times, right?

0:43:09Well, the New York Times copied me.

0:43:12- Yeah, 'cause friendship has ended.

0:43:12- I don't know if you guys have seen,

0:43:14it's ended with New York Times.

0:43:15I'm no longer Mr. Vitici, now I'm, you know,

0:43:19I'm just upset now. - A persona non grata.

0:43:21- Yeah. - Yeah.

0:43:21- Mr. Aykroyd created something called Wortlebot.

0:43:24- The New York Times made Wortlebot,

0:43:26but Wortlebot is also my shortcut from January.

0:43:30So anyway, I hope the New York Times lawyers

0:43:33don't get in touch with me.

0:43:34Okay. - Wait, you do have a lawyer.

0:43:36Why don't you get in touch with them?

0:43:38Well, because it's in your times, you know, it's very likely that they have many more

0:43:42lawyers and money that I have. And also I don't care.

0:43:45Are they better than Jon though? You know what I mean?

0:43:47Yeah, well, Jon, Jon doesn't have that fire in him anymore. You know, it's not only a

0:43:54teachers person anymore. Jon is now a very quiet, non-lawyer type of person. You know,

0:44:02I don't want to, I don't want to awake the beast, the lawyer beast that sleeps within

0:44:07Because once you do that, you might never stop him, right?

0:44:10Yeah, exactly.

0:44:11And that's the problem.

0:44:12Then he wrestles the company away from you.

0:44:14If he gets a taste of the court again, you know, it's never going to write for me anymore.

0:44:23Why is your Ricky on its back?

0:44:26I don't know why.

0:44:27Okay.

0:44:28Your honor.

0:44:29The crown's going to fall off.

0:44:30Yeah.

0:44:31I must have bumped against it at some point.

0:44:38Too much bass in those headphones.

0:44:40Yeah.

0:44:40We've already spoken about your really expensive audio gear in the past.

0:44:44Okay.

0:44:45Your hand-built audio gear.

0:44:47Yeah, so we don't need to talk about that.

0:44:48We don't need to talk about that.

0:44:50If you would like to, Steven, please.

0:44:52There's just something funny to me about this picture.

0:44:54We have really nice audio equipment, and you have two really nice sets of headphones,

0:44:58and you have a really nice cleaning product displayed

0:45:01for friends and family to see.

0:45:03But it's just like on,

0:45:05and I know you live in a small place,

0:45:07but like the audio,

0:45:09like the percentage of space the audio equipment takes up

0:45:12is greater than anything else in this picture, right?

0:45:16Like you make your living from your MacBook Pro

0:45:18and your iPad.

0:45:19I don't even see an iPad anywhere

0:45:21unless that's folded up there on the left.

0:45:23Like- - No, it was in the kitchen.

0:45:25- Okay, so what is on the left?

0:45:27So that's the portable display and the keyboard that I use for my gaming PC.

0:45:34So once again, it's a small place, I don't have enough room for a desk with a gaming monitor.

0:45:41I don't know, I talked about this, maybe it was not on this show, maybe it was on remaster, I think it was on remaster probably.

0:45:47No, the most place you spoke about it was with Jon, so it's MaxStories on one, part of the email.

0:45:53Yes, so I have a gaming PC now and I realized that when I was playing video games at night,

0:46:02and that's the only moment when I get to play video games, the PC is connected to my 4K TV,

0:46:07to the TV that we have in the bedroom, but the TV was bothering Sylvia at night, like

0:46:12the flashing images and lights, and just the TV on was bothering Sylvia.

0:46:16So I came up with this system where I have this 3 meter long HDMI cable and a 4 meter

0:46:25long USB-C cable.

0:46:27And every night when I want to play games from the gaming PC, I turn off the TV and

0:46:32I unfurl these cables and I connect them to this portable gaming monitor that I have.

0:46:40So honestly, this portable display, quite possibly my favorite tech purchase of the

0:46:45year, it's a portable 4K OLED display.

0:46:52It's called the C-Force or something.

0:46:54It's really good.

0:46:55I believe it's a Samsung AMOLED panel, and so every night it looks kind of ridiculous

0:47:01what I do.

0:47:02I fully understand that it's ridiculous.

0:47:04So I have a USB-C cable with power that comes out of my nightstand.

0:47:09I have an HDMI cable and a USB-C cable that come out from behind the TV.

0:47:14I unfurl everything and I put this portable display on my lap and I can play in bed without

0:47:21bothering Sylvia with the giant TV that it doesn't have to stay on anymore.

0:47:26Instead, I play video games from my PC with this portable monitor and these giant cables,

0:47:33like these super long cables that I run all over the bedroom.

0:47:37And then when I'm done playing at like 4am or something, very quietly I need to roll

0:47:42them back up again without waking up Silvia and the dogs.

0:47:47Yeah, so that's what I do every night.

0:47:49One day you are going to have a cable disaster.

0:47:52Or one day I'm going to have a proper desk where I get to play my gaming PC stuff.

0:47:56That's true, that's also very true.

0:47:59So the reason why that display and the keyboard, that's the Logitech K400 keyboard that I use

0:48:06with my gaming PC they are on the desk because there's not enough room to place them anywhere else

0:48:11so they just stay there. Can't they go in the closet with the microphone? Yeah I guess they could go in the

0:48:19closet. I guess you're right they could go there. There's something about this image where your

0:48:24MacBook Pro looks like it's 11 inches. It's the 14 inch one. I know it is but it just looks really

0:48:31small I'm not really I can't work out why it's the mile that is pretty huge

0:48:35yeah that might be it next to the because it's just like I can't conceive

0:48:39of just how physically large that amp thing is that's that's what it is

0:48:44it's really not large but it's it's it's a chunky it's a it's a unit you know like

0:48:49it's definitely a unit it's very dense. What are the parts on the side that stick out?

0:48:54Heat sinks. Heat sinks. Really? Giant heat sinks. Yeah that thing puts out a lot of

0:48:59of power. It's one of the few amps in the world that can, at this size, right, because

0:49:04I mean you can get bigger amps, but for that price range and that size, they can drive

0:49:10the -1.6 V, the headphones on the top, on the left, that you can see up on the shelves

0:49:17and at that price range and that size, it can drive those at a comfortable volume level.

0:49:25So should we move above desk?

0:49:27Please whenever you want.

0:49:29All right, we're above desk.

0:49:31Now, yeah, there's two sets of headphones up here.

0:49:38One is the HiFi Man Susvara and the other is the Abyss Diana Phi V2.

0:49:45Right.

0:49:46Yeah.

0:49:47As you know, of course.

0:49:52What is a bunch of cables?

0:49:54This Abyss Diana 5...

0:49:56Whoa!

0:49:59Well, don't Google the other one.

0:50:01Hee-hee!

0:50:02Don't Google the other one.

0:50:03Okay.

0:50:05Hold on a second.

0:50:07Let me Google that one.

0:50:09Okay, I mean, there wasn't that much of a jump.

0:50:11I mean, obviously, it's more.

0:50:13Fair enough.

0:50:15Okay.

0:50:16What is this Abyss one?

0:50:18Are these wireless?

0:50:19No. No, no, no.

0:50:20You can see all the cables that I have.

0:50:22Well no, because the the Hi-Fi Man ones I can see the cables built into them.

0:50:25Oh no, they're just not plugged in, but no it's not.

0:50:30So they are very different headphones, very different...

0:50:34I don't need to talk about this, you're just gonna make fun of me, very different...

0:50:37Someone likes music I guess, you know what I mean?

0:50:40You know the meme, I'm the guy who likes music.

0:50:43Somebody please find a video, guy who likes music, it's one of my favorite videos of all time.

0:50:46Oh, it's more than a meme, right? It's like a whole thing.

0:50:49It's a whole thing.

0:50:50It's like it's built a whole career out of that.

0:50:52Yeah, yeah.

0:50:53I don't really wanna get into it, you know?

0:50:55I'll leave it for the passionate ones

0:50:59they can go look themselves.

0:51:01I think we spent a lot of time

0:51:02talking about your audio gear in the past, you know?

0:51:04So inside these two cubes,

0:51:06you have all of your retro video game stuff.

0:51:11So you've got a Game Boy, is that an original?

0:51:14It's not a Game Boy.

0:51:14Ha ha, it's not a Game Boy.

0:51:16Well, there's a, well, no,

0:51:18Steven means the one on the left, right?

0:51:20Yeah, and it's not a Game Boy.

0:51:22It's a case that looks like a Game Boy.

0:51:25Okay, it's a case of the Game Boy.

0:51:27The case is for the analog pocket, right?

0:51:30Yes.

0:51:31Okay.

0:51:32There's some irony in that, I guess.

0:51:34Putting on the skin of your enemy or something.

0:51:38Analog pocket.

0:51:39And these things are kind of on display,

0:51:41but you also play them, so I guess you want them accessible.

0:51:43The PS Vita is purely for display, right?

0:51:46The what?

0:51:47The PS Vita.

0:51:48Oh, the PS Vita. No, I play with it. That's a PS Vita that I... It's not my original PS Vita, my original PS Vita.

0:51:56It's all scratched up and I broke one of the joysticks. So last year during the lockdown, I got a used PS Vita in really good conditions from eBay.

0:52:08and the guy was kind enough to preload it with a custom firmware and all the emulator stuff.

0:52:14So I mostly play it for the PSP compatibility for emulation,

0:52:21because I tried, I mentioned this on remaster last year,

0:52:25I tried playing on the original PSP hardware,

0:52:30but the spinning disks of the PSP, the noise that they make were bothering my dogs,

0:52:38at night. And obviously the PS Vita doesn't have spinning mini discs. So that's... you

0:52:46can play PSP games on the Vita and that's what I've been doing.

0:52:50What's next to it? The little screen?

0:52:52Yeah, what is that?

0:52:54That is something that I will... that I finish doing the setup. I will set it up eventually

0:53:04when I will have a new...

0:53:06This is your scrubbler?

0:53:08Yes, it's my Raspberry Pi powered display for my scrubbling.

0:53:18It's a real time scrubbling display that shows whatever I'm listening to on Apple Music.

0:53:29If I'm listening on the Mac, I have this utility called "Neptune" that mirrors my... that scrubbles

0:53:37my stuff to Last.fm, and if I'm on the iPhone or iPad, I use Marvis, and that also scrubbles

0:53:44to Last.fm.

0:53:45And I copied all of this from Jason Tate of Chorus.fm, really great music website.

0:53:53Jason did this tutorial last year on how to do a physical Scrubbler thing, and so that's

0:54:00a Raspberry Pi Zero connected to a compatible Square display.

0:54:09For Scrubbles.

0:54:10For Scrubblin'.

0:54:11For Scrubblin'.

0:54:12All for the Scrubblin'.

0:54:14Jason and the Discler pointed out that you have Pokémon Pinball in the Unlocked Pocket,

0:54:19and I wanted to ask you if the Rumble works.

0:54:22I still gotta test it, but I will...

0:54:24Because I have Pokemon Pinball, and was playing it in my analog pocket, and I replaced the battery,

0:54:30but it doesn't work. You know, maybe this is something that I can bring back to life, but

0:54:35it wasn't working.

0:54:36Okay, yeah, I will try it and let you know.

0:54:38Now that big wooden box, where did you get that?

0:54:42What's in it?

0:54:43What's in the box?

0:54:43Well, because I have one of these.

0:54:46That is a box for...

0:54:50Is that from our live show?

0:54:52Well, because I have one from the live show.

0:54:54That's right.

0:54:55It was the worst.

0:54:56I came first place in what was before the Rickies and got the worst prize, which was

0:55:03that big wooden box.

0:55:04To store your diskettes.

0:55:07It was the worst prize.

0:55:08That is a box that came with my high resolution audio player, the Astell and Kern player that

0:55:18I have.

0:55:20came in this wooden box. I removed the foam from inside the box and now I'm

0:55:27using it to store cartridges for old Game Boy games. Okay, because it looks just

0:55:32like the old Mac floppy disk box that Steven gave me. No, no, no, it's a

0:55:40repurposed box from from music player that I got. I want to talk about your

0:55:46pins. Okay. So when Myke was here, he suggested that I get a like a pushpin,

0:55:53like a cork board to put my pins in, and I've done that. I think it looks pretty

0:55:57good. I just don't love like the unevenness and messiness of it being

0:56:02around the edges of the cubes. Yeah, that's on purpose. It's, it looks, it's,

0:56:07it's, you know, fun and jazzy. It's fun. It's, it's hippie, you know. It's like, yeah, I

0:56:13I don't care about I like that you have some internal relay pins that white iPod one is my favorite pin

0:56:20We've ever done, but the gold fifth anniversary is also very good

0:56:23You know we sold the flipped one where it was blue on the outside. Yeah, hold on the inside. Yeah

0:56:29Which Hard Rock Cafe did you go to where do you see that?

0:56:34Right above air mail is Paris Paris Paris. Yeah. Yeah, there's some old painting here that I

0:56:42That particular area, that little corner of airmail and breaker.

0:56:46They're not around.

0:56:47Is airmail still around?

0:56:48I don't even know.

0:56:49I think it kind of is, but it's also, yeah.

0:56:51There's some pins in here that I don't really know what they are for, but, you know, somebody

0:56:57mailed them to me years ago and I just thought they looked cool and just dropped them.

0:57:00Yeah.

0:57:01See, that's when you get into danger because who knows what you're displaying, you know?

0:57:04Yeah.

0:57:05You have two Peacock pins, which feels like a lot.

0:57:09Yes.

0:57:10Yes.

0:57:11Well, James made a lot.

0:57:12true which is maybe the bigger problem I think all the WWDC pins are in here the

0:57:24Nintendo switch one I got from Amazon because I know the Nintendo switch one

0:57:28we were given those we were given those at a meetup you're right yeah those are

0:57:32good I've got a lickability one as well that's a good pen the lickability one

0:57:36yeah I have a US flag I don't know why it was also WWDC pin I think you got the

0:57:41flag of your home nation? And since your Apple ID is American, I assume they gave you an

0:57:48American flag.

0:57:49I honestly think that's what happened.

0:57:53I think that's exactly what happened.

0:57:56Oh, that's so good. Once again, you played yourself.

0:58:02For a long time, I was so paranoid that I also kept a fake name in the fake US account.

0:58:08Oh, wow. What was it?

0:58:10It was something stupid like "Titchi Tachi" or something like that.

0:58:14Oh yeah, definitely American. Very American. They're not gonna catch that one, are they?

0:58:19Yeah, yeah.

0:58:20Yeah, I'm surprised you haven't brought up a very specific... well, two specific things in here.

0:58:26There's one thing that I see. You have the Nothing earbuds.

0:58:33Yeah, that's one. Yep.

0:58:34Yeah, I have those too.

0:58:36Yeah, they look amazing.

0:58:37Yeah, they look amazing, they sound like crap.

0:58:41I just use them for my Nintendo Switch as Bluetooth headphones, because hey, now five

0:58:46years later you can now do Bluetooth headphones with the Nintendo Switch, and so I just keep

0:58:50them there.

0:58:52I like that the case supports wireless charging, so I can just place it on my charger on the

0:58:58nightstand.

0:58:59Yeah, that's cool.

0:59:00And even, yeah, and they just charge and that's fine.

0:59:03What is this thing in front of the Game Boy?

0:59:05Ah, that was the second thing.

0:59:06I don't know what that is. That's the cartridge saver thing, right?

0:59:09That is a little accessory to, to make your own,

0:59:15you know, make your own backups. Yeah. Of, of, of.

0:59:18Yeah. Who's the gamer now, son? No, not game, a thief. You're a thief.

0:59:23So you're a thief. Yes. So this is called the epilogue, which is not,

0:59:28which is different from analog.

0:59:30I don't know why this very similar sounding companies are making.

0:59:33- Before the prologue.

0:59:35- Before the prologue, yes.

0:59:37Wait, no, the epilogue is--

0:59:38- Wait, no, it's after the prologue, yeah.

0:59:39- Epilogue is at the end. - Ah, dang it.

0:59:40- Prologue is-- - I messed up my own joke.

0:59:42- Oh, well, how's your journalism degree now, huh?

0:59:45- So it's called the GB operator,

0:59:48and it comes with a Mac app that you gotta associate with it

0:59:52and it's honestly amazing.

0:59:55You put in the physical cartridge and it recognizes the game.

0:59:58It lets you back up your save data.

1:00:01And I think they are working on a firmware update

1:00:06that is actually let you back up the entire game

1:00:10to a ROM file.

1:00:12Because right now, all you can do is plug in the cartridge

1:00:15and play the game in the emulator within the official client,

1:00:20or you can just back up the saved data,

1:00:24but you cannot create a ROM file.

1:00:27And I think they've heard the feedback from people

1:00:30and they're gonna let you create ROMs.

1:00:32But it was incredible because I was able to take

1:00:34like 25 year old games, put them in the operator,

1:00:39take the save files and paste them

1:00:45into the Delta emulator for iPhone.

1:00:48You know, the one that comes with Alt Store,

1:00:50like the kind of jailbreak but not jailbreak thing,

1:00:55and they worked.

1:00:56So that was cool. - That's wild.

1:00:59backing up your own saved data,

1:01:01and then you place them into this emulator for the iPhone,

1:01:03and it recognizes that, so that was cool.

1:01:06Not sure it's worth like $100,

1:01:08but a piece of plastic is not cheap.

1:01:11- I think I'm ready to release you.

1:01:13- Okay, wow, that's not too bad.

1:01:16- Not too bad.

1:01:17- Steven, are you happy to release Federico?

1:01:19- I am.

1:01:20If you love somebody,

1:01:22if you love somebody, let him free, you know?

1:01:25- Yeah.

1:01:26- That's what they say.

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1:03:01- I have two desks.

1:03:04- You just had to be extra.

1:03:05- Okay, he's already bragging.

1:03:07Okay, we got it.

1:03:08We got it, you're rich.

1:03:10- Federico is like set up on a card table

1:03:12and you got two desk over there.

1:03:14- The first one is my main desk.

1:03:17This is where I spend the majority of my time walking.

1:03:20I just realized that your main desk and your streaming desk are the same thing.

1:03:27Same desk? It's the desk you have.

1:03:29Yeah.

1:03:30That's the biggest desk.

1:03:32Yeah, it's a great desk. I love mine.

1:03:34Wait, which one is the main one? Which one is the streaming one?

1:03:37[Laughter]

1:03:39Wait, what?

1:03:41No, I'm confused now.

1:03:43I have the main desk split in half, you see?

1:03:46No, I don't see.

1:03:47What are you talking about? Are you looking at desk one?

1:03:50Myke's desk one?

1:03:51Yeah.

1:03:52I think he's trolling you.

1:03:53Obviously the one with the cameras and the lights is the streaming one.

1:03:56Oh, so the second one is the podcasting one.

1:03:59Yes.

1:04:00Okay, okay, I get it.

1:04:01Alright, one desk.

1:04:03We're looking at main desk, right, which is desk one.

1:04:06Just call it one, don't say main.

1:04:08Just use the same terminology that is in the file name.

1:04:11Right, well I was going to do that,

1:04:13but then I would get confused because this is how I think of them.

1:04:15This is my main desk and I have my recording desk.

1:04:17So this is my, we're looking at my main desk right now,

1:04:19now which is the big desk. And on that desk you have on the right hand side

1:04:25your MacBook Pro and Studio Display. Yep. And on the left you have your streaming

1:04:32PC with cameras and lights and keyboards and stuff. There's a lot, there's a lot.

1:04:37I wish they were separate. I wish they were two different things. Why? Because

1:04:41this like, I don't even show mine, but like I have my streaming PC set up on a

1:04:46different desk it would why that why they have to be side by side why can't

1:04:51you have some more room they don't need any more room mega desk I have a whole

1:04:55other desk that I'm sitting at right now I don't need three desks just for me

1:05:01you'll have two already exactly well I don't need a third I'm not a monster

1:05:05might as well go for you're not a monster what I will say is when whenever

1:05:10I do move studio I will I will get another desk there it is but just how it

1:05:15right now I don't want to redo the entire studio to bring in another desk

1:05:19and have it all set up properly so there's so much stuff yeah going on

1:05:24there's loads of stuff like what's with the rolls of colored material they are

1:05:32desk mats and why so many I mean can you just use why so many headphones why so

1:05:40many headphone cables well I mean we all have our vices this is mine I don't know

1:05:45I don't know what you're talking about. I don't have any thing like that.

1:05:47[Laughter]

1:05:48Exactly.

1:05:49Alright, we all have our collections.

1:05:51You have like ten...

1:05:52This is my collection.

1:05:53Well, one of my collections.

1:05:55So above that, you got your PC back there.

1:05:58Mm-hmm.

1:05:59And you've got all of your Elgato lights and cameras and everything set up.

1:06:03Yep.

1:06:04What GPU are you running in that PC?

1:06:06I have a AMD 6400.

1:06:11Okay.

1:06:13So it's the, I think, was originally the bottom of the line of the new generation of AMDs,

1:06:20but now they've brought in lower cards.

1:06:22Let me go to PC Potpicker and I can tell you.

1:06:26I'm willing to forgive the multiple keyboards because I know you stream here and that's

1:06:30your thing, so.

1:06:31I don't need your forgiveness.

1:06:33Okay well then I don't forgive you for having two keyboards on the PC side.

1:06:37I mean it's not the keyboards, it's like, I don't know, this whole setup.

1:06:40It's chaos.

1:06:41I think it's chaos. So there's many parallels for me between this desk and Myke's home screen.

1:06:48Wait, wait. Just before we carry on, just before we carry on, I have the Radeon RX 6800 XT.

1:06:55Okay.

1:06:55That's my graphics card.

1:06:5768? Okay. All right.

1:06:586800.

1:06:59The worst thing in this picture is that you didn't take the sticker off the corner of your

1:07:04LG display on your PC.

1:07:05Oh yeah, look at that!

1:07:06Yeah, the one that says Nvidia G-Sync.

1:07:08Yeah, that's the first thing I noticed.

1:07:09I want to know why I have G-Sync, you know?

1:07:11I'm a gamer. Sure, sure. Yeah, how would you know the features there if it didn't tell you all the time?

1:07:16I'd forget I had G-Sync. Yes, yes, it's like he's looking at it. Yes, yes, I have the

1:07:20NVIDIA G-Sync one. I'm ready for G-Sync. Yeah. This, I draw a parallel here between

1:07:31the chaos on this desk and the chaos of your home screen on your iPhone. So I think you are a

1:07:39visually chaotic person. I'm chaotic good, you know? Neutral. Come on, don't do that!

1:07:46Nah, no, no, you're not good, you're not good, I'm sorry, you're neutral.

1:07:50Neutral. All right, I'll be kind of neutral, fine. So I am assuming that the busyness

1:07:56of this desk doesn't bother you. No, because I'm always doing things, I need this stuff because

1:08:04because I'm always doing stuff.

1:08:05Right, but why does the stuff need to be displayed?

1:08:13What stuff is displayed?

1:08:15Like, I want to know what you're talking about.

1:08:16Multiple keypads?

1:08:18Alright, so I can explain some of this stuff to you, right?

1:08:21So obviously I need two keyboards for the two computers, right?

1:08:24You can see that, right?

1:08:25Or you could get one keyboard that switches between them.

1:08:30How many pads of headphones do you have?

1:08:32Do you know what I mean? Like, what do you want from me?

1:08:33Two! We're okay.

1:08:35Yeah? Don't say two, because we saw a third.

1:08:37And I know that's not all that there is all.

1:08:39I've been selling... I've been se... Okay, anyway.

1:08:42Okay. Alright.

1:08:44Are you telling me you have three pairs of headphones?

1:08:47Because I also know you have AirPods. You also have AirPods Max, right?

1:08:50I don't want to get into this.

1:08:52Right.

1:08:53You have more, right?

1:08:54My point is, you aren't seeing all of my keyboards.

1:08:57There are things put away.

1:08:58No, all I'm saying is that this is a very messy desk.

1:09:01Oh, I'm not saying it's not. But it is like...

1:09:05And you're fine with it.

1:09:06Yeah, because the stuff that's there is stuff I want to be there.

1:09:10Okay. As long as you want it, it's fine.

1:09:14I have one keyboard that has quiet switches in it and one keyboard that has loud switches in it.

1:09:18Because depending on what kind of stream I'm doing, I need a different type of keyboard.

1:09:23So when I'm recording with Austin, I need quiet switches because you don't want to hear the typing, right?

1:09:29And then when I'm streaming for keyboard stuff, people want the noise and I want the noise.

1:09:33So then I switch to the loud keyboard.

1:09:35OK, but for example, those tools that are next to the pink and blue mouse.

1:09:42Yeah.

1:09:43Do they have to be there all the time?

1:09:45Like when you're done with them, why don't you just place them back into a drawer or something?

1:09:50That desk side is primarily used for my keyboard projects.

1:09:54They are keyboard tools.

1:09:56whenever I'm sitting there doing stuff with keyboards, which is even more than just when

1:10:01I stream because it's like a hobby of mine, I like to just do those tools. I need them.

1:10:05They're like, they're as important to me as having like a knife or a pen or whatever on the desk.

1:10:09Right, but when you're done with it, with a knife and a fork at home,

1:10:12you place them back into a jar or something.

1:10:14Right, but I didn't say a knife and a fork, I said a knife and a pen,

1:10:17because if you look on the right hand side, I've got a knife and some pens,

1:10:19and Steven had knives and pens.

1:10:21I have the same knife you do, actually.

1:10:22Okay, so I guess you're not, you're not big into putting things away.

1:10:26Look at the left, look at the thing on the left. That is a storage system.

1:10:31System is a word.

1:10:32That is all stuff put away. No, it is. There are boxes and there's like containers and that is all

1:10:39like taken care of over there. The stuff that's on the desk, I want it on the desk, you know?

1:10:44That, I put lots of things away. My studio is pretty tidy, I think.

1:10:49My favorite thing about the desk is that that water bottle, which is a very good Relay FM

1:10:55water bottle could destroy so many things. Yeah. It could destroy your laptop which is

1:11:02pointing away from you for some reason. I guess so you can see the apple will go the

1:11:05right way. No, I just put it down however I put it down. What difference does it make?

1:11:09It's always closed. Yeah. It's just however I plug it in. It could destroy one of one,

1:11:13two, three, four, five keyboards. Yeah, but I have a... I've put the thing in so it's

1:11:19not going to spill. That... I have a different thing to you. I've got like one of the straw

1:11:25Yeah, no, I've got one too on mine.

1:11:27Yeah, but water doesn't pour out of that thing. It needs a sucking motion.

1:11:30I just like the danger, like the element of danger.

1:11:34Yeah, that's... I couldn't live with that.

1:11:37I have an open can on this desk right now.

1:11:41That I'm on right now.

1:11:43You like to live dangerously, my friend.

1:11:46I mean, like, look, there's a mess. Like, what do you want from me? I'm a human being.

1:11:49There's essentially no cable management.

1:11:51Cable management is for sickos, all right?

1:11:54What? Real human beings live like me.

1:11:58No.

1:11:59Yes.

1:11:59I can assure you they do not.

1:12:01I assure you.

1:12:03No, look, here's what you two need to understand.

1:12:06No, no, no, no.

1:12:06Cable management is for people like you.

1:12:09Everybody else lives like me.

1:12:11They just have their cables.

1:12:12No, that is an excuse for someone who's just lazy to do some very basic cable management.

1:12:18It is basically cable management.

1:12:20Everybody's like me.

1:12:21No, no, it's not true.

1:12:22You're just lazy.

1:12:23People live like me.

1:12:24people live like me. There are a couple things that I want to point out. One, you have your

1:12:29Eero on the floor. Yes, thank you, that was one of my things. If it's anything like mine, they get hot.

1:12:34And the Philips Hue Bridge is also just laying there for whatever reason. Yeah, I mean, what,

1:12:40am I gonna put them on the wall? Where do you want me to put them? I mean, my Eero is at least

1:12:44sitting on top of my battery backup. No, no, all the Eeros live on the floor, that's where they live.

1:12:49No, no, no, it's not like a rule or something, no.

1:12:54That's where they go.

1:12:55It's not a room, bud.

1:12:56I have three arrows, they're all on the floor.

1:12:59The other thing, and maybe you can clear this up.

1:13:01That's on you.

1:13:02Because in this picture, I see one, two, three,

1:13:06four power strips, and I only see one thing

1:13:10plugged into the wall.

1:13:11Are these all daisy chained off each other?

1:13:15Yeah, but.

1:13:16You know this is like.

1:13:18One of them has a smart switch.

1:13:19So all of the PC stuff,

1:13:22I don't want to just have that on all the time.

1:13:24- Okay.

1:13:25- So you'll see that one on the right,

1:13:26there's a big thick box,

1:13:28which one of the things is plugged into.

1:13:29That's a smart switch of some kind.

1:13:31So I can turn on everything that's on the left-hand side.

1:13:33- You know, this is a fire risk, right?

1:13:36- Definitely.

1:13:36- So, it's a protecter, what do you want from me, you know?

1:13:42What am I gonna do with my life?

1:13:43- It's just so many things in one outlet.

1:13:45- I think there's a smoke detector in here.

1:13:47probably on the floor somewhere.

1:13:49Yeah, there's a smoke detector in here.

1:13:51It's under the Philips Hue Bridge.

1:13:52No, it's up on the ceiling where they belong.

1:13:56I also like that I think the only thing plugged into that Ethernet switch is the Hue Bridge?

1:14:02No, no, no, no, no.

1:14:04The arrow's plugged in there too.

1:14:05Okay, I was going to say, if that's the only thing plugged in there, you don't actually

1:14:08need the switch.

1:14:10That's the pro move right there.

1:14:12Okay.

1:14:13I like to add latency to all of my stuff.

1:14:17I like to have as much electrical interference as possible in my networking.

1:14:20The Eros plugged into the Hue Bridge, the Hue Bridge is like this.

1:14:23No it's not, it's good.

1:14:25Multiple packs of stickers, multiple notebooks, a box full of pens?

1:14:30Those packs of stickers, that's for a project that's currently ongoing.

1:14:34My notebooks, I use both of those every day.

1:14:36One is my theme system journal and one is my notebook.

1:14:38They are different, they have different purposes.

1:14:41Wow. #ad.

1:14:42Cosxmerch.com, what do you want from me?

1:14:44I think we each get a cut.

1:14:46The analog pocket in the clear case. That's honestly the best thing on this desk is the analog pocket in the clear case.

1:14:52Pokémon Sapphire, Pokémon Pinball, Pokémon Yellow, Red and Blue.

1:14:57Yeah, this is another ongoing project. Behind it is some batteries. I need to take them apart.

1:15:01Right, you're taking... Okay, good job, good job.

1:15:03See, the desk on the left is my projects desk, you know? That's where my projects live.

1:15:11What's in the white cardboard box?

1:15:15Which one?

1:15:16The square one.

1:15:18The one on the desk?

1:15:20Leaning under the desk?

1:15:21Yes.

1:15:22That is the Teenage Engineering PC case.

1:15:24OK.

1:15:25Oh, wow, that's a small box.

1:15:27That's a small box.

1:15:28OK.

1:15:29Yes, flat packed.

1:15:30What's in the flowery package?

1:15:34This thing that says Hydrangea on it.

1:15:37Some key caps.

1:15:38Samsung SSD just laying there on top of the PC?

1:15:43- Oh, that's part of like a whole thing

1:15:44for transferring video footage

1:15:46from when we do the back markers to my MacBook.

1:15:48I haven't worked out a better way of doing it right now.

1:15:50So it's, that is like, I unplug it and plug it in

1:15:54to the other thing, unplug it and plug it in.

1:15:56I need to work out about a solution,

1:15:57but I just haven't got it yet.

1:15:59- Yeah, set a network share up or something.

1:16:01- I thought about that,

1:16:02but I just know that's gonna cause me issues.

1:16:04Like I just know that's,

1:16:05'cause it's gonna be slower to transfer the footage, right?

1:16:09Because this way I could just upload it.

1:16:11- Especially where that switch is.

1:16:12Yeah, I know. It's got to go through the HuBridge.

1:16:14I can upload it to YouTube directly from the SSD

1:16:18rather than needing to transfer it to my MacBook Pro.

1:16:21- Isn't all this just messy to clean and dust

1:16:26on a regular basis?

1:16:30- Dust must, you know what I'm saying?

1:16:32- Well, now this makes sense because this feels

1:16:35like the desk of a teenager.

1:16:37- I'm the common man, all right?

1:16:39I don't do cable management.

1:16:41The common man with a MacBook Pro and a custom built PC on the same desk.

1:16:45With a desk one of two, the common man.

1:16:47You're just using this argument, but you don't realize that you're contradicting yourself

1:16:52because the common folk do not have three keyboards, two computers and the gaming PC

1:16:57and the streaming stuff and the flowery box with the key caps inside, you know, they don't

1:17:02run a notebook company also, but they do dust.

1:17:05I'm not common man.

1:17:09I'm still Myke from the block, you know?

1:17:11I don't dust.

1:17:12Yeah.

1:17:13Okay.

1:17:14I never lost that, you know?

1:17:15But this makes sense.

1:17:17If you don't have responsibilities,

1:17:18you can keep a desk like this.

1:17:20Honestly, I feel like I am getting away with this.

1:17:23This is so much easier than I thought this was gonna be.

1:17:25No, it's messy and I hate it.

1:17:27Yeah, yeah.

1:17:29We're not, no more digging into anything.

1:17:31We're all good.

1:17:32No, let's move on to the next one.

1:17:33No, no, hang on Federico.

1:17:34Just also problematic. Hang on, hang on.

1:17:35He said that as if there's something in here

1:17:38that he's relieved we haven't talked about yet.

1:17:40Not really. I just thought you'd be like, "What's this? What's in that thing? What's this?"

1:17:44And I have to not list what's in the other nightmare.

1:17:47Okay, so there's something that I meant to ask you about.

1:17:49There's a...

1:17:51Besides the flowery box, there's a little thing with a display on it.

1:17:56Scales.

1:17:57Scales.

1:17:59Thwaite keyboards.

1:18:01HomePod mini.

1:18:03What's the thing in front of the HomePod mini?

1:18:05A desk vacuum, and it's amazing.

1:18:07So you don't dust, but you have a desk vacuum.

1:18:10Yeah, because I don't need to dust because I use my desk vacuum.

1:18:12You know that it's not dusting everywhere, right?

1:18:16Yeah, but dusting, what does dusting do? It just moves the dust around.

1:18:19So you get rid of it.

1:18:20It picks it up.

1:18:21No, you just don't.

1:18:22It picks it up, man.

1:18:23I just vacuum it. I vacuum it.

1:18:25Wow.

1:18:27Okay.

1:18:29The USB hub to the left of the PC screen

1:18:33looks like you bought the cheapest thing you could on like Amazon.

1:18:38100% that's what I got yeah. I hate that thing. I hate it so much. It looks so bad. Yeah I hate it.

1:18:44But I just it was one of those things where you know you when you're working on a project and you

1:18:49need something quickly that's what I bought. I hate it. I just haven't worked out what else to

1:18:57get replace it with yet. This I this is messy. Yeah. I would feel way better about it if you took

1:19:04five minutes with some velcro ties and tied down the power cables going up to all of your lights.

1:19:10Here's the thing. Just tie them to the stand. That's how mine are. Just wait a minute, all right.

1:19:16I did do it and then I added a bunch of stuff and a bunch of stuff changed and it all got messed up.

1:19:21At some point I am going to do a little bit more cable management again. Just because they're

1:19:26right in front of your eyes, you know. It's all just gone out of control, you know. Like,

1:19:31Basically in the time that I've been in this studio, when I've had this desk, every piece of equipment that's on this desk has changed.

1:19:37So like, eventually I'm gonna get around to cable managing it again, but it ain't today.

1:19:43But honestly, I don't even think it's that bad. But you know, what am I gonna say?

1:19:48So I don't know, I don't know what else we haven't picked up.

1:19:51There isn't anything, I just thought you were gonna give me a harder time then.

1:19:55Honestly, I think I'm getting away with this one pretty easy.

1:19:58Because I know what you two are like, you clean freaks. You know what I mean?

1:20:01I'm a regular guy. No, again, regular people do not think like you.

1:20:06I'm a regular dude. Nope. Let's talk about desk number two. The number one thing about this desk

1:20:15that jumps out at me... No, it's not. Whatever you say is the number one thing. It isn't the number one thing.

1:20:19Is the candle that says leather period as the label. You're telling me you open this image

1:20:27And the number one thing is the candle.

1:20:30I mean, your bad wallpaper is here.

1:20:32The number one thing?

1:20:34I know it has my face on it.

1:20:35This desk, what I have to look at constantly.

1:20:39I don't even, I don't even see the candle.

1:20:41Does the candle smell like leather?

1:20:43My wonderful wife bought it for me for our anniversary

1:20:46because we celebrated whatever anniversary

1:20:47is the leather anniversary.

1:20:49Whoa, what did you get her?

1:20:51Hey.

1:20:52(laughing)

1:20:53Wow, okay.

1:20:54I bought her a handbag.

1:20:54(laughing)

1:20:57- Also the desk mat, that was also from the anniversary.

1:21:00Two leather things.

1:21:01- First reaction from this desk.

1:21:04Smaller than the previous one.

1:21:06- Yeah, it is, yeah.

1:21:07It's fully smallest desk.

1:21:08- My first reaction, my first reaction was cozy,

1:21:13cozy desk.

1:21:15- I much prefer this one.

1:21:16Visually, aside from the horrificness of Steven's face,

1:21:20I much prefer this desk.

1:21:23This desk is more like what I would want everything to look like.

1:21:26My first reaction was also, where does he place his hands?

1:21:30Like, there's no room.

1:21:32Oh yeah, there is. This is the...

1:21:34I have a lot of space, like I put my hands on top of the notepad.

1:21:37My hands go... one goes on the... like next to my mouse.

1:21:41The other, I rest my hand quite a lot on the Wacom tablet,

1:21:44because it doesn't do anything, unless the pens touch it.

1:21:46So the Wacom tablet is the one on the left, the black one.

1:21:48The black thing.

1:21:50The big black thing, yeah.

1:21:51So anyway, we have established that you like this aesthetic about you, right?

1:21:55This messy sort of like, I like to think I'm a regular person aesthetic.

1:21:59Yeah. You're not. Okay. Got the cleaning cloth folded there on the base of the iMac.

1:22:04So the fat Pikachu. Yeah. Card.

1:22:08Yup. Surfing Pikachu. V-Max. Best, best Pikachu for sure.

1:22:13I love my curvy Pokemon. I like it. I like it. I just want to say that I like it.

1:22:16Um, the vertical monitor, right? Yeah.

1:22:20Why?

1:22:21If you remember, before I had the iMac,

1:22:24sorry, yeah, before I had the iMac, I had a Mac Mini here

1:22:27and then I needed a monitor for it, and I just bought whatever half-decent monitor I could find.

1:22:31And then when I got the iMac, I wanted a little bit more desk space,

1:22:35and I already had this monitor, so I just used this monitor.

1:22:40It's great, I've got all my audio hijack stuff, Zoom is up there.

1:22:43What's with the little greyish-bluish thing with the hole in it?

1:22:50And what happens if you put your finger in it?

1:22:54Chop!

1:22:54My finger's in it now and everything's okay.

1:22:56Is it a nib nib?

1:22:58There's no problem.

1:22:59That is called the Penwell Craftsman.

1:23:02It's somewhere for me to put my pen.

1:23:04Oh, but it doesn't do anything to them.

1:23:06It holds the pen, yeah.

1:23:08It gives the pen a nib nib.

1:23:09Okay.

1:23:10The keyboard with the white, black and pink keys.

1:23:15Is that Kirby?

1:23:16Is that Kirby in the top left?

1:23:18Actually, legally, that is not Kirby, that is Corby.

1:23:23What is it called?

1:23:25Corby?

1:23:26Nice.

1:23:27Nice.

1:23:28This is from a keyboard friend of mine.

1:23:31She makes them, her name is Tiny.

1:23:33She makes really amazing keycaps.

1:23:36And one of the range that she has is the Corby range.

1:23:39And the mouth is big enough that you can put your finger in it.

1:23:43And it nib nibs.

1:23:44And it nib nibs.

1:23:45Nice.

1:23:46Got a nib nib there from my Corby. That's good. Tell me about the lamp on the right mainly because I want a lamp like this

1:23:53I love this lamp so much. It's by a company called an angle boys

1:23:58angle boys

1:24:00Angle poise

1:24:05Uncle boys uncle boys lamp company. No, it's angle poise ankle boys

1:24:14Ankle boys. They love ankles.

1:24:16It's an ankle boys lamp.

1:24:18I have one of the Paul Smith ones.

1:24:20I just like the colors of it a lot.

1:24:21And I like it. Yeah.

1:24:22Yeah. I want a lamp like this.

1:24:24Really good lamp.

1:24:25And I have a hue bulb in it.

1:24:27So next to the candle, the leather candle.

1:24:32What's that?

1:24:32Is that something for your nose, for your allergies or something?

1:24:35I have...

1:24:36Some lotion?

1:24:37Some Ollie Now Ectoin Spray.

1:24:41It's like a nasal, you know, like unblock your nose.

1:24:45And then in front of it is hand cream.

1:24:47Yeah, hands get dry podcasting.

1:24:49Did you get a hit of that spray today?

1:24:54I can get it. Let me do it right now. I hate it.

1:24:56[Laughter]

1:25:00Again, again, again.

1:25:02There she goes.

1:25:03Ah, I don't like it at all.

1:25:06I got to do the other nose. I got to do the other nostril now.

1:25:08I got to balance it out.

1:25:09What is this show?

1:25:15Oh, it goes up to the brain, man.

1:25:21Okay.

1:25:22Oh my God.

1:25:25It went out on date in 2017.

1:25:27Wow.

1:25:28No wonder it's so bad.

1:25:30Oh my God.

1:25:31Why did it even give me this?

1:25:32Why did she give me this?

1:25:34It's so old.

1:25:35Why did she give me this?

1:25:36Did it expire before you got married?

1:25:39expired five years ago oh yeah that's not good I can taste blood oh no no wait

1:25:51yeah you know that like it iron taste in the discord now why I do know why did

1:26:02you give me this you gave you gave me this like six months ago oh I don't feel

1:26:08good guys that's gone right to my head have we done something have we have we

1:26:13gone too far that's in the trash yeah

1:26:19maybe Carter from the discord asks has anyone died on a relay show before yeah

1:26:25but it could happen that don't feel right you do it all for the show again

1:26:30so like she's saying she got me this a while ago all right what I will tell you

1:26:34you, beautiful wife of mine. 2017! It wasn't that long ago. It was 100% during the pandemic.

1:26:42If I brought it here to the studio, which we signed a lease on in 2020, it was already

1:26:46three years old before it could have come here!

1:26:49You got married in 2018 or 19, right?

1:26:51Yes! It predates our marriage!

1:26:53Yeah, that's what I thought.

1:26:56Anyway, I don't want to get into that. It's not "roast my marriage" today.

1:27:01I've roasted my nostrils though, you know what I'm saying?

1:27:04Yeah, yeah.

1:27:06I think this desk is, I think it's definitely neater and tired than the other one, mostly

1:27:11because of its size.

1:27:12Yeah, it has to be, right?

1:27:13I think Federico's first impression of being cozy, like that's where I land too.

1:27:17Like I kind of like that you're just here, it's got blankets and stuff around it because

1:27:22it's where you record.

1:27:23Eggs, yes, yes.

1:27:25And maybe they're like, there's a fireplace on the right and maybe you're drinking some

1:27:30whiskey or something, it's very cool. I don't know, maybe it's the lights. Yes, I got a candle.

1:27:35There is definitely an aesthetic here that I wish the other desk could have, just it can't. I can

1:27:40send you some more stickers. You know what really makes this desk? Federico. Federico. Yes. Guess what I just

1:27:46noticed. Zoom in on the bottom left hand of the picture. There's the Touch ID keyboard. Yep.

1:27:54glued to the bottom of the desk.

1:27:56Velcroed.

1:27:57Velcroed.

1:27:57Where?

1:27:58Where?

1:27:59Look, look at the pic, look at the sticker of me.

1:28:02It's gold.

1:28:04Yeah, it blends in.

1:28:05Oh my God, it's gold.

1:28:06Yeah.

1:28:07I see it, I see it.

1:28:09Oh, that's genius.

1:28:11My skin has got a real headache, man.

1:28:13Yeah, you're gonna die.

1:28:14I'm gonna die.

1:28:16We're gonna wrap up the show, but I mean, yeah.

1:28:21I'm ready to release you.

1:28:23Yes, we can release you the better job.

1:28:28Man, I got off so easy today. Did you not see the other arrow on the floor?

1:28:33Well, I just... no.

1:28:35Actually, that arrow is not just on the floor. That arrow is lying on top of sound foam.

1:28:43Oh my gosh.

1:28:44You know, like the foam for noise?

1:28:46I don't know, I mean at this point we're just, you know...

1:28:51I think I got off real easy, except for the decongestant. That was the worst part. Aside

1:28:57from that, everything else was fine. Besides the fact that there's a very serious risk

1:29:02of dying. What happens if you spray, like, how many years? Five-year-old decongestant

1:29:09in both nostrils. That's why we have follow-up on the show. Yeah, follow-up. Myke didn't

1:29:14make it. Follow-up. We are at the morgue. Follow-up. Welcome to One True John's time on Connected.

1:29:21That's right.

1:29:22We're in the OTJ season.

1:29:24Mm-hmm.

1:29:25Oh, God. Okay.

1:29:27Oh, no, wait. It's James, right?

1:29:29James in the succession.

1:29:30So, if James Thompson's here next week,

1:29:33the decongestant took its hold.

1:29:36Yep.

1:29:37If I die in the next week,

1:29:39you guys are going to feel real guilty now

1:29:41for making that joke. You know that, right?

1:29:42Well, mostly because I was like,

1:29:44"Take a hit. Come on, come on, do it."

1:29:46You know, the peer pressure.

1:29:48And then like, you know.

1:29:49Yeah, there's a lot of evidence

1:29:50that's gonna be used against us in the trial.

1:29:52It could be potentially incriminating, and in that case...

1:29:54Although to be fair, like, Idina is involved.

1:29:57Yeah, she's straight up murdered you.

1:30:00No, no, no, not her. There's no straight up. This is the three of you.

1:30:03I mean, we just did it for the show, like, in Kurt.

1:30:07Yeah, see Federico, you are the only one out of the three people mentioned here

1:30:11that I will say was pure of heart, because both Steven and Idina get money if I die.

1:30:15I don't think we do if we murder you.

1:30:18There you go.

1:30:20Yeah, but you were hoping you'd get away with it.

1:30:22I mostly did it for the shows.

1:30:24Like I thought it was funny.

1:30:25Federico, they're going to pin this on you, man.

1:30:27Why?

1:30:28Because they don't get any money, right?

1:30:31If they murdered me.

1:30:32So they'll say you did it.

1:30:34No, it's on the record saying, what is that?

1:30:37I didn't know what it was.

1:30:38And then you blamed your own wife.

1:30:40Federico, here's the concern.

1:30:42Steven edits.

1:30:43Steven could edit out the part where he says it.

1:30:46Look, honestly, I'm going to keep my own backup of this call.

1:30:50I think that's a really good idea this time.

1:30:52[Laughter]

1:30:54So, there's Discord logs that are pointing to, you know, a new saying to Adina,

1:31:01"Why did you place this, why did you give this to me months ago?"

1:31:04So it could be like a long con that Adina planned this whole time.

1:31:09So I have my own backup of this Zoom call, and I can submit it as Exhibit A in court.

1:31:17And also I have an excellent team of lawyers.

1:31:19One of them is a very angry one.

1:31:21With one knee.

1:31:23One knee, you know, he lost the other knee in another trial.

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1:33:19I have some real-time follow-up from Carter who has consulted a medical professional during

1:33:25the show to confirm that I'm going to be okay.

1:33:29That even nasal sprays, they just lose their effectiveness over time.

1:33:33They do not become poisonous, toxic, or harmful.

1:33:36I'm sure that's a reputable situation you found yourself in.

1:33:43Medical professional, you know?

1:33:45All right, Federico, tell us about your Apple Watch charging.

1:33:48I'm so upset. I want to see very upset.

1:33:53So I don't know what happened.

1:33:56Well, I guess I do know what happened because I needed to look it up,

1:33:58and I realized that there's many other people like me.

1:34:01Why is no one talking about this?

1:34:03Why is no... Turns out people are talking about it.

1:34:07WatchOS 8.5 completely broke fast charging on my Series 7 Apple Watch,

1:34:15with the otherwise very good and very nice Belkin charger that I have.

1:34:22And it turns out this is not a problem of my back in charger, it's a WatchOS 8.5 problem.

1:34:28There's multiple articles talking about this.

1:34:31It totally broke fast charging on my Apple Watch.

1:34:33But that's the thing that really upsets me here.

1:34:37It's not that it broke fast charging, so now it's doing regular charging.

1:34:41It went from fast charging to slow charging,

1:34:46meaning that this watch basically doesn't charge anymore, or rather it picks up like

1:34:525% in, I don't know, 4 hours or something.

1:35:00There's no fix for it, it seems. So my watch is fully updated to the latest version of watchOS.

1:35:05It doesn't fast charge anymore. It doesn't regular charge anymore. It slow charges now, meaning that

1:35:13once it dies on me and

1:35:16I place it on the charger, I can pick it up the next day to have it be at a hundred percent again.

1:35:22And I don't know what I'm supposed to do here.

1:35:25So this is charging slower than the slowest charging?

1:35:29It's charging slower than the slower charging.

1:35:33It went from fast charging to slower than usual charging.

1:35:39To incredibly slow charging.

1:35:41Maybe all of the very various many many many possible products that you have bought over the years

1:35:47which you've put this thing on top of and finally fried it.

1:35:50Well, but this is a Series 7 Apple Watch, and I've only used it with either the Apple

1:35:58MagSafe Duo charger.

1:36:00Then I gave that one to Silvia, and I switched to this official MagSafe one that I bought

1:36:05from the Apple Store, made by Belkin.

1:36:08So it's only ever been on two chargers.

1:36:12And a bunch of other people, you know, I don't know if you guys know about this, but I'm

1:36:17very online as a person. Yeah, I've looked at other people online and other people

1:36:26online have the same problem as me. And there's no... the thing about it is that

1:36:31there's no fix for it. They just... what? They just don't care? They sell like... the

1:36:37Series 7 was already like a boring update. I guess fast charging was one of

1:36:40the perks and now it's broken. It doesn't work anymore. Now you know how I feel

1:36:48about Apple Care. I didn't get it for this watch. I'm just saying like have you

1:36:53contacted Apple support? No, no I guess me doing the podcast is contacting them.

1:37:00Hey look I get you right? I feel you on that one for sure. You know like I

1:37:04I sometimes when something is very specific,

1:37:09like a shortcuts bug that I really care about,

1:37:12I file a radar, I talk to the right people

1:37:15and I do what I can do.

1:37:17But for this kind of thing,

1:37:18well, I'm gonna talk to an Apple specialist

1:37:21on the support website

1:37:23and they're just gonna tell me something.

1:37:25- What they're gonna say is,

1:37:26what's they'll say is it up to date?

1:37:28Then they'll ask you to turn it off.

1:37:30Then they'll ask you to restore it to factory settings.

1:37:32- Yeah.

1:37:33- That's like the worst possible thing to tell someone

1:37:36'cause it's like, I know this won't fix it

1:37:38and what you're asking me to do

1:37:40is like reset my entire iPhone.

1:37:42When I did my AirPods Pro replacement,

1:37:44they wanted me to reset my phone to factory settings.

1:37:48I was like, yeah, sure, I did that already.

1:37:50No problem.

1:37:51Apple care, man.

1:37:53- Yeah, I just don't wanna follow a checklist.

1:37:55I just don't wanna follow a checklist that I already know.

1:37:58It's not gonna fix my problem

1:38:00because there's hundreds of other people

1:38:02reporting the same issue online and I'm just surprised there's no fix for it I

1:38:08guess. Genuinely though even though I've now just said all of those things because

1:38:12it is so easy to restore a watch have you tried doing that like I'm just

1:38:16asking. No no I guess I should do it also because like my watch is pretty easy to

1:38:21restore. And of all of their devices the watch is the easiest right?

1:38:25Nobody even like, also like I don't really customize it I use one of the

1:38:29basic watch faces and I have like what three complications on it.

1:38:34You're the common man.

1:38:36See I am the common man.

1:38:38Because you even have the Aluminium Apple watch too right?

1:38:41I am a man of the people. I've been saying this on the show for the past few years.

1:38:50I'm a man of the people. I think like the people. I talk to the people and the people talk back to me.

1:38:57Do you hear them right now?

1:39:03They are in the room right now.

1:39:09They're all giving me the thumbs up.

1:39:10I did it right.

1:39:11They're all nodding, so I guess I must be saying something right.

1:39:16But yeah, I guess I will try that.

1:39:18It's easy enough to restore.

1:39:20Did you check... can you do battery health?

1:39:23Is that a thing on these devices?

1:39:25You can't...

1:39:26I realized this today in selling my Series 6 Apple Watch.

1:39:33The guy on the website asked me, "Hey, can you tell me the battery health?"

1:39:37And I realized, "Oh, I didn't know that was a thing that I could check."

1:39:40It exists, but only on the watch itself.

1:39:43You gotta open the settings up on the watch.

1:39:46So not in the watch app on the iPhone.

1:39:48Directly on the watch.

1:39:50You go to Settings, Battery, you scroll kind of to the end, there's the battery page, and

1:39:55then you tap battery health and you got the same info that you got on the iPhone

1:39:59and my series 98% this is the series 7 7 right the the 6 that I'm selling from

1:40:07last year was a 90% which you know why it's bad 90s it's like a year and and

1:40:20Like a year and a half? Maybe more, actually. A year and seven months? Yeah, a year and a half.

1:40:28It's not too bad, 90%, I think. But anyway. So, Zack's saying that, you know, their series 6 is also down to 90%, so thank you, Zack.

1:40:40So that seems to be in line with other people.

1:40:42You should, uh...

1:40:44But my series 7 is not charging anymore, so I'm very upset.

1:40:47So if you leave it all night,

1:40:50I'm going to wake up the next day. It's not going to be fully charged.

1:40:54That is a problem.

1:40:55Yeah. Yeah. It's a horrible, it's horrible. Like you gotta,

1:40:59you gotta talk to Apple about this.

1:41:00You got to restore it and then have them replace it or repair it or whatever.

1:41:04Sorry. I have to, I'm sorry to say that. I agree. Like one,

1:41:07you need to do the restore just to say, you never know. Right.

1:41:09Isn't there like a concierge service where like you pay,

1:41:14Like, I would honestly pay a monthly or annual fee when things happen, you don't have like...

1:41:21See, it's not the... it's not the having issues because problems happen.

1:41:26It's finding the time to deal with them.

1:41:29Yeah, this really sounds like a common man problem that you've got here.

1:41:33You're thinking of Big Apple Care Buddy, where they just take care of your repair for you.

1:41:37Let me tell you, Federico, you can pay for Apple Care.

1:41:40And do you know what they do?

1:41:42They don't do nothing for you.

1:41:44Because they say, "That's not scratched."

1:41:47- You're really taking your one example

1:41:49and applied it to the whole system.

1:41:51- It's the only example I have.

1:41:52I have a 100% failure rate.

1:41:54- Wait, don't they have a service for businesses

1:41:58where like if something breaks,

1:41:59the Apple person is gonna come to you

1:42:02and fix it on site? - Apple Business Essentials.

1:42:04And I doubt it's in Italy.

1:42:06- They have a heat, remember,

1:42:07tichi-tachi, it's not in Italy anyway.

1:42:08- Yeah, but the Apple watches.

1:42:11- Look, I got the Italian Apple ID

1:42:13for when I wanna pretend.

1:42:15- Mail the watch to John and let John deal with it.

1:42:18- Yep, this is what we call a John problem.

1:42:22- This just seems like a very simple,

1:42:24straightforward yet unfortunate hardware issue.

1:42:26And they'll take care of it for you.

1:42:29- Apple Business Essentials is US only.

1:42:32- No, I don't know, I gotta find a solution for that.

1:42:34I gotta find, block some time.

1:42:37I'm going to sit down and be like, okay, I am dealing with this today.

1:42:41You know, you need someone to put it, put it on your schedule for you. Yeah.

1:42:46Yeah. Just like a common man. Common people do this all the time.

1:42:50Common people think like me, they talk like me,

1:42:54they do podcasts like me. I don't know. I don't know why.

1:42:59Yeah. Common people like you, right? Common people like me. That's also,

1:43:04Was that a reference? That was a reference, right?

1:43:07Myke and I get it. Myke and I get it. Steven doesn't. But Myke and I, we get it.

1:43:12Yeah.

1:43:13I took her to the supermarket. I don't know why, but I had to start her somewhere.

1:43:19So I started there.

1:43:22There.

1:43:22Alright, we've lost it now. I'm more nasal spray than man. Alright? Like I'm done.

1:43:27Steven, please wrap it up.

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1:44:29No Friday keyboard Club

1:44:31It's on Friday

1:44:33At some point I'm gonna do that thing with the touch ID button. Oh, yes. Let us know that's gonna happen. Yeah

1:44:40It's probably gonna be I reckon it'll probably be next week. Okay. I'm waiting for the iFixit stuff to come

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