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0:00:08Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 381.
0:00:12It's made possible this week by our sponsors, Squarespace,
0:00:15Smile, Capital One, and Memberful.
0:00:18My name is Stephen Hackett, and I'm joined by Mr. Federico
0:00:21Faticci.
0:00:22Hello.
0:00:22Hi, how are you?
0:00:23I am good.
0:00:25How are you?
0:00:26I am good.
0:00:27I'm doing very well.
0:00:28I'm excited for today's show.
0:00:29Me too! Lots of good stuff today.
0:00:31We're also joined by our friend Myke Hurley.
0:00:33This is unacceptable.
0:00:35What?
0:00:36This is unacceptable.
0:00:38This is an odd episode.
0:00:41And on odd episodes, I'm introduced first.
0:00:44But is the chairman now? And he can decide to do whatever he wants.
0:00:48Is this the decision you've decided to make as chairman?
0:00:51This is the chairman perk.
0:00:53To reverse the order.
0:00:54That you are freed from the requirement to remember odd and even?
0:00:57Is this what you're giving yourself?
0:00:59Free to introduce people in whatever order you prefer.
0:01:03What did it is someone had their cursor up at the top and like selected the Federico line.
0:01:09So at the top of the document we have in Comic Sans two lines.
0:01:13It says "Even episodes Federico, odd episodes Myke."
0:01:17And I got it backwards because someone's cursor confused me.
0:01:21No, that's not true because I put my cursor up there after I realized you put Federico first.
0:01:27I think it was as I was saying his name maybe.
0:01:29Dendro Kostka. Because you know what happened? I thought to myself,
0:01:32this feels like, I thought immediately, like, it feels like Federico's always introduced first,
0:01:37and then so I went and checked the top of the document, and then was horrified with what I found.
0:01:42Travesty, backstabbing, all that kind of stuff.
0:01:46That really just sounds like some sort of, um, maybe we should talk to somebody about that.
0:01:50Like you always feel like you're, you're in second, playing second place to Federico.
0:01:54I mean a lot of it's still that way.
0:01:55Well, that's the whole thing. Well, I have this whole thing. I'm sure I've told you this before.
0:01:59I feel like I shouldn't say this in public, but I'm going to say it anyway.
0:02:02I have this thing where, like, I think everyone's taller than me.
0:02:07Yeah. Oh, really?
0:02:07So, like, people that I really respect or, like, people who I think are super creative or whatever,
0:02:13I always think, like, both of you, I think you're taller than me, but I think I'm taller than both
0:02:17of you or, like, I'm the same height as Federico. But I have this thing of, like, I always,
0:02:23in my memory, I'm looking up at people.
0:02:25And that's not good, is it?
0:02:26That's like an inferiority complex.
0:02:28Yeah, you need to talk to somebody about that.
0:02:29I think it's worse when you actually can't say inferiority on the first try.
0:02:33That's not good either.
0:02:34You gotta work on that, buddy.
0:02:36What's your height in centimeters?
0:02:39Uh, hang on.
0:02:42180 something?
0:02:45I think we're the same height.
0:02:46Ask Siri.
0:02:48What is six feet one inches in centimeters?
0:02:52Man, it's just taking so long. 185.
0:02:55You're 185? I'm 183.
0:02:59I mean, I might be 183, right? Like, centimeter is way more precise than feet and inches.
0:03:05We're about the same height. Like, I know that to be true.
0:03:08Yeah, and you're both like an inch taller than me, because I'm six feet.
0:03:12But the weird part of it is I am as tall or taller than most of my friends.
0:03:17But I always think I'm smaller.
0:03:20Do you think, Myke, that this height complex is because you took the expression "look up to people too literally"?
0:03:28[laughter]
0:03:31I mean, I think this is the problem, right?
0:03:35I think that that is exactly it, is I am looking up to people too much.
0:03:41You can do so, you know?
0:03:44Not literally, I mean...
0:03:46Well, this I mean it doesn't happen literally except in my brain. Anyway, we were talking about
0:03:51Who is the tallest like in our group? I mean Jeff Veen is but he quit his podcast
0:03:57So he don't count anymore. Jeff is a hundred and seventy-five feet tall. So like he's a tight Jeff Veen is very tall
0:04:02Syracuse is tall
0:04:04Yes, I bet Syracuse is probably the tallest. I mean, I can't tell you genuinely if John is taller than me
0:04:11I don't know. I mean cuz I assume everybody is something John's like six two or six three
0:04:15Okay.
0:04:16He's a tall man.
0:04:18But other than that, Jeff Veen was the tallest.
0:04:20I think Myke and I are the same height and I don't think Syracuse is tall like us.
0:04:26I don't think so.
0:04:27Federico thinks everyone's smaller than him.
0:04:30Yeah, I also gotta look into that, right?
0:04:33I mean, I have some pictures here and like, John is towering over you,
0:04:40but I don't know if you're both standing straight, right? Like, that's the problem.
0:04:44how can I tell you're like kind of like hugging Merlin a bit in this picture
0:04:47and also don't like old people get shorter anyway
0:04:50I think Syracuse is about the same height as us honestly looking at some some photos of John
0:04:56Syracuse that I have in my photos library it's kind of kind of a toss-up I think
0:05:02I have a video here which I just found which is a fun moment for me
0:05:05which is the first time that John and Federico met and Federico pronounced Syracuse
0:05:12The way we say in Italy, it's "Ciracusa."
0:05:19Is that right?
0:05:20It's right for a giant.
0:05:26We've been talking about what perks the annual chairman could enjoy.
0:05:31Myke, you think that maybe I should just introduce Federico first every time.
0:05:35That feels more like a perk for Federico.
0:05:36No, I think that's what you've clearly chosen.
0:05:37That's not what I'm choosing.
0:05:38That just feels like what you've chosen because that was what you did.
0:05:41Look, I'm just happy when I get the episode number right the first time because that definitely
0:05:46doesn't always happen.
0:05:48But Michael on Twitter suggested that we change the tagline of the show art to say "Technology
0:05:55Without Borders from Steven and Friends" since I'm the annual chairman this year.
0:06:00That feels pretty good.
0:06:01I mean, I don't like this, but the point is you get to do, in theory, whatever you want.
0:06:07But as I was completely shot down in the last episode for this,
0:06:11we still need to set the rules, right?
0:06:16The U3 wouldn't allow for my idea, which was just...
0:06:19U3?
0:06:20U2.
0:06:21So not only are we tarvin' you, we outnumber you.
0:06:24Shut up!
0:06:25You're bullying now. Cyberbullying.
0:06:27Myke, do you think these tall people are in the room with us right now?
0:06:32Do you see Syracuse right now?
0:06:34(laughing)
0:06:36- I don't think I would want that.
0:06:41I love Jon, but I feel like if he was in here,
0:06:43in my studio, he would have so many things to complain about.
0:06:46I don't think I could handle that.
0:06:49You wouldn't accept my just the annual chairman
0:06:52gets to make the rule.
0:06:53So you can say whatever you want,
0:06:56but there has to be like checks and balances put in place
0:06:58based on what you two required.
0:07:00So you can propose this if you like,
0:07:03but my belief is you had to get some kind of vote
0:07:05or something you wanted done.
0:07:07I don't remember that.
0:07:08- Well, we'll see.
0:07:08I haven't heard the show speak to me yet, you know?
0:07:13- What does that mean?
0:07:14- You know, sometimes you just know what the answer is,
0:07:16right, and I haven't had that.
0:07:18The spirit of "Connected" has not visited me
0:07:20in the night yet.
0:07:21- Yeah, it's the Google document that speaks to you.
0:07:23- The spirit of the Google document?
0:07:24- The spirit of "Connected" lives in the Google document.
0:07:27I think so.
0:07:28I think the spirit of "Connected" lives
0:07:30in the Google document.
0:07:31That is why we cannot switch from Google Docs ever for this show.
0:07:36It's just a ghost that appears in the middle of the night and asks you for your
0:07:39password. That's the spirit of the Google document.
0:07:43It whispers, sign into the correct account, please.
0:07:46You know who is tall, by the way? John Gruber is tall.
0:07:51Yes. Okay. John Gruber is very tall. Yes.
0:07:55John Gruber is taller than John Siracusa. It's the thottest John of all the Johncys.
0:07:59Well, how tall is the one tall?
0:08:01I was gonna say one tall John, jeez.
0:08:04What is wrong with me?
0:08:05One true John.
0:08:06Yeah, but I mean, I feel like a lot of our friends
0:08:09are like a little bit taller than me.
0:08:11Like I think Gray and I are about the same height,
0:08:14but Casey's a little bit taller.
0:08:15Casey's hair is also tall.
0:08:17That's true.
0:08:18That gives him about seven inches.
0:08:19It's a lot of hair product there.
0:08:21Lots of weird little bits of follow-up today.
0:08:26Okay.
0:08:26I think this is the entire segment.
0:08:28Yes.
0:08:28The segment name where I talk about bathtubs. We had quite... Is that what you're
0:08:35wanting to bring in as chairman? We have bathtub segment. Bathtub segment. Yes. We had
0:08:42several good... I'm fine with that. Several good suggestions. Tumas suggested tub grade, which is
0:08:51perfect in every way. I've had a thought that I would like to bring to the group.
0:08:59Okay. We all have like zoom recorders right? Yeah. Yes. Okay. So like member puck
0:09:10three of us in the bath not together but kind of together. You realize we are
0:09:17approaching only fans territory. Yeah people pay for that kind of stuff. I
0:09:21I mean sure, but it's I guess not what I expected my career would become.
0:09:25This is the thing, would people want to pay to hear a show of us in our own individual
0:09:31bathtubs?
0:09:35How do you know that I'm not in my bathtub right now?
0:09:38The sound, I feel like I would hear it.
0:09:40We would hear the water.
0:09:41And also if people check out Connected Pro, get connectedpro.co, we were sharing images
0:09:47with each other, or YouTube mostly, were sharing images with each other and then sending me
0:09:51screenshots of them.
0:09:53And you didn't look like you were in the bathtub.
0:09:56You don't know that I didn't build a bathtub into the slab of pod cabin.
0:10:00That is a very good point, and I could imagine you doing that because you are such a bathtub
0:10:04freak.
0:10:05Can you imagine that it's like there's a button on the wall and the floor opens and there's
0:10:08a bathtub just like ever present?
0:10:10You've got a couple more kickstarts to go before that one.
0:10:13That's true, yeah.
0:10:14Please buy my calendar this summer.
0:10:16Gotta make some more cat endorsement.
0:10:18You are the James Bond villain equivalent of a bathtub, right?
0:10:23Where it's like you have like a lair and you press a button
0:10:26and then like the bathtub appears
0:10:27from underneath the ground.
0:10:29I think this is a good direction for the show, honestly.
0:10:31To upgrade.
0:10:32We had a lot of feedback on the photos widget conversation
0:10:36that we had last time.
0:10:37There seems like there's a bug right now
0:10:39that if you delete a memory, it will just come back.
0:10:43So I tried this, actually the day after we got this
0:10:46this note, there was a memory that I didn't,
0:10:49it's not that I didn't want it,
0:10:49I just didn't care about it.
0:10:50I was like, oh, well maybe I'll try this.
0:10:53And so I deleted the memory.
0:10:55And not only has it come back in the photo widget,
0:10:57it is like stuck in the photo widget.
0:11:00I feel like it's been there six out of 10 times
0:11:03I pick up my phone since the day I deleted it.
0:11:05So it seems to be a bug in iOS 15,
0:11:08where if you delete a memory, not only does it not die,
0:11:11it comes back stronger.
0:11:12So be warned.
0:11:15like Hydra images.
0:11:16The thing is as well,
0:11:20I don't know if I recall this particular thing happening,
0:11:22but I believe it does.
0:11:23But part of the issue is you delete a memory,
0:11:26but those images just come back in a new memory,
0:11:28which is titled a different thing, right?
0:11:30- It's even named the same thing?
0:11:32Like it is this- - No, I'm sure
0:11:33that is happening, like I believe it.
0:11:34But my point is like, even if it doesn't,
0:11:36it's like the system isn't learning
0:11:38and it's just still showing you those images,
0:11:40because you can't say,
0:11:42why do I want to delete this memory, right?
0:11:45As like, you know, I want to delete this memory
0:11:46'cause I don't want pictures of these people
0:11:48or of this time period or of this location,
0:11:50but you can't really do that effectively.
0:11:54- We also got some feedback that if someone is set up
0:11:59in like the faces feature, you can then tell
0:12:03that photos don't feature this person as often.
0:12:08And we touched on this,
0:12:09but I kind of wanted to like clarify it a little bit.
0:12:11So this is an example, like you don't want memories
0:12:15or widget stuff of maybe your ex.
0:12:18Well, you can't just go in, like we had suggested,
0:12:21go into photos and just go through and find them all
0:12:24and tell photos, hey, these photos, don't put them in
0:12:27memories, don't put them in the widget.
0:12:29Instead, you have to have your ex hanging around
0:12:31as a face record in photos, which you probably don't want.
0:12:36And you can't actually tell it never to feature them,
0:12:40just to feature them less.
0:12:42It's just like-- - It's not great.
0:12:45- No, it's like there's so many obvious loopholes in this.
0:12:48They really need to revisit it.
0:12:50They really do.
0:12:51- I wonder if any of these limitations
0:12:54are brought on by like the on-device learning
0:12:57as opposed to a cloud-based learning system.
0:13:00Where like, if all of the rules are just being set
0:13:04on-device with on-device processing,
0:13:06you maybe can't have a set of metadata
0:13:09which is synced between the devices as clearly, right?
0:13:12Federico, is it still doing that,
0:13:14that it's all kind of localized to devices
0:13:17and then some stuff is shared?
0:13:19It's gotten more complicated over time, I think,
0:13:21to understand. - I think so.
0:13:22Yes, I think so.
0:13:25They're still doing that big sort of offline index
0:13:30of all photos content that is downloaded for sure
0:13:35when you set up a device.
0:13:38I also think that periodically, and there was an article or something about this, or
0:13:42a white paper maybe, like the frequency that Apple uses to update this sort of on-device
0:13:51index of photo contents.
0:13:55Someone will find it.
0:13:56There was a schedule, I think, that basically Apple is able to push updates to your device,
0:14:01but then your device still does all the actual indexing offline on-device.
0:14:07of a strange system which I don't really understand myself.
0:14:11Real time follow up, a few people have posted in Discord that if you select "feature this
0:14:16person less" you can say "never feature this person" but it's not as simple as that because
0:14:22then you do still need to keep their faces in the photos record, right? And it's just
0:14:30not enough. It's not enough and it's not flexible enough. Because then if you remove that person
0:14:34from the faces record, then they're going to come back again.
0:14:38What a mess. You could just view faces in photos as like a group of people you never
0:14:43want to see, except when you look at faces. We have some really big news. Federico, I
0:14:50need your help.
0:14:52Well, I think maybe first we need to start from the story, from the sort of email we
0:14:58got and how we've been keeping all of this information as a surprise from Myke too.
0:15:05Yeah, I don't know anything.
0:15:07Yeah, Myke doesn't know anything.
0:15:10So why don't you go back to last week,
0:15:12Steven, and offer some context on what happened after the show.
0:15:16So in last week's show, we shared that I mailed Federico a bunch of stuff via UPS,
0:15:22and it has been sitting in a warehouse for a month. And I said, look, if anyone out there
0:15:26there, listen is connected. If you can help us with this, if you can point us in the
0:15:29right direction, please reach out. We got an email from a listener who is a pilot
0:15:36for UPS in Europe. No way! Pilot is the best part! I know. Yes. And apparently this person has
0:15:48access to to basically inquire on any tracking number and so I said...
0:15:56Yeah, they're a pilot, of course they can, do everything they want, right?
0:15:59Yeah, they can just walk in there and get it. They hand-delivered it to Federico.
0:16:03So we sent them the tracking number, said okay, we submitted an internal inquiry, and it made its way up to a...
0:16:12I don't want to give exact details because I wasn't given permission to give details, but a high up person
0:16:18a person with a very impressive title
0:16:21inside of UPS's Europe operations.
0:16:25They spoke to the person who is like in charge of UPS
0:16:28in Rome, they found, they got to the bottom of it
0:16:32and within one and a half days of this email,
0:16:37Federico has the box.
0:16:38- You should not be allowed the level of power
0:16:42that you have.
0:16:43Like this is not good to have this.
0:16:45- You gotta put into the world what you want out of it
0:16:47And I wanted Federico to have his box.
0:16:48I have the box.
0:16:51This is the noise that he made.
0:16:53The stuff inside.
0:16:56So first of all, I guess I should say that...
0:16:58Do we have any idea why?
0:17:00Did they give any idea why it was stuck?
0:17:03Oh, there was an invoicing problem in the system.
0:17:06Yeah, something silly.
0:17:08Steven filled out the paperwork wrong?
0:17:10No.
0:17:10Is that what we're coming back to?
0:17:11That Steven incorrectly put something?
0:17:13So I want to offer some context here.
0:17:16first of all, I want to say that Stephen Hackett
0:17:18is kind of cheap when it comes to boxes.
0:17:20This is a reused Amazon Prime box.
0:17:23- It is.
0:17:24It's what I had handy.
0:17:25- It's an Amazon Prime box.
0:17:27It's not personalized at all for me.
0:17:30And there's a piece of tape.
0:17:32There's a piece of tape that says, "Wow, now,"
0:17:36and then it's cut off.
0:17:38I guess it was some sort of message.
0:17:40It says, "Wow, now."
0:17:42- Yeah, some sort of Amazon advertises on their tape,
0:17:44which is terrible.
0:17:46- Anyway, we are opening the box right now.
0:17:50- I've always kind of liked the advertising on the tape.
0:17:52So you gotta put something on there.
0:17:54- I hope I don't cut myself.
0:17:56Okay.
0:17:57- It's up to you now.
0:17:58It's out of my hands.
0:18:00- Everything smashed to pieces.
0:18:01- Okay.
0:18:02- It's in the box.
0:18:03- Hold on, hold on.
0:18:04- It's just destroyed.
0:18:05- Okay, I'm opening the box.
0:18:07- If we know anyone in the USPS,
0:18:09I have a parcel that's lost.
0:18:10(laughs)
0:18:11If you know.
0:18:12- Oh, this smells like Steven.
0:18:14It does smell like Steven in here.
0:18:16Oh, that's good. I'm jealous of that.
0:18:17Very good.
0:18:19There's a...
0:18:20Oh, wow. Okay, so first object.
0:18:23There's a calendar in here.
0:18:29Excellent.
0:18:31Is it a good calendar?
0:18:33Let's see.
0:18:33I'm gonna make a giant mess of everything.
0:18:36It sounds like you're going to.
0:18:38Yes.
0:18:39How do I open this calendar, Steven?
0:18:41Oh, okay.
0:18:42There's a little tab.
0:18:44Mm-hmm. Pulls right open.
0:18:46Oh, nice paper smell. Okay.
0:18:49The calendars do smell good, don't they?
0:18:51The Apple hardware calendar for 2022.
0:18:55Oh, this is so nice, man.
0:18:57Thanks.
0:18:58Oh, look at that font. Wow. Nice.
0:19:00Nice, nice. Okay.
0:19:03There's a dog cow.
0:19:05Federico, you should be an unboxer.
0:19:07Wow, this iPod photo is incredible. The one with the iPod Nanos in all colors.
0:19:12That took a long time. That is so good. I love it and it sm-
0:19:15Smells so good, man. I love it. Okay. So this is the calendar. It says thank you at the end. Oh nice touch
0:19:22This project has been an unbelievable thrill and I have been blown away by your support. Oh, that's nice
0:19:29Okay, so that's the calendar
0:19:31What else is in this box?
0:19:35Only you can tell us. Yeah. Okay. Let's see
0:19:38There's a
0:19:42Something with some koala themed gift wrapping paper.
0:19:50I'm gonna open this.
0:19:52What?
0:19:53I am opening it.
0:19:55Oh my god, it's the little...
0:20:01Oh my god, it's the...
0:20:04What's the name of the little...
0:20:06Ricky.
0:20:07It's Ricky.
0:20:08Is it Ricky?
0:20:09It's from Ellen, right?
0:20:10Yes.
0:20:10There are stuffed ones?
0:20:11Yes.
0:20:12With the stuffed one, yes, with the little crown.
0:20:16Oh my God.
0:20:17Yours has a crown?
0:20:18Mine has a crown.
0:20:20Oh!
0:20:21It's incredible.
0:20:23I'm gonna take a picture right now.
0:20:26Oh my God.
0:20:26So Steven, do you have just,
0:20:28you just have plain OG, right?
0:20:30'Cause I have medals.
0:20:32Mine was plain, but now it has,
0:20:36when I get near it has some sort of energy field of winning.
0:20:39It's hard to really describe.
0:20:40There's something intangible about it.
0:20:42Oh, okay, there we go. I wonder where this is going.
0:20:44Mine has a crown. Mine has a crown.
0:20:47It's incredible. It looks fantastic.
0:20:50And it feels so good to touch.
0:20:51It's great, right?
0:20:52Mine just sits here right on my desk in front of me all the time.
0:20:55Oh my God. And it smells like my grandma.
0:20:58Oh, this is weird.
0:21:00With the kneading and the...
0:21:02There's a lot of smelling in today's episode.
0:21:03I wasn't expecting so much smelling.
0:21:05Oh, I like... I'm a big smell boy. I like to smell everything.
0:21:09Okay, that's great.
0:21:11This this crown is great. Is that is that knitted to the crown?
0:21:15Like no, no, it's I don't know what.
0:21:18Well, maybe I don't know.
0:21:20It's it's different material.
0:21:21OK, I think it's still yarn, though.
0:21:23I think it might be just like sparkly yarn.
0:21:25OK, so there's more padding in the box than what?
0:21:30OK, what else?
0:21:31There's some colored yarn that holds a card.
0:21:38OK.
0:21:39Oh, there's a message from Alan.
0:21:42Ah, you don't need to read that on the show. That might be a personal message.
0:21:46I don't think it's personal. It's just a very nice message.
0:21:49Okay.
0:21:50So, I mean, I don't think there's anything secret in here.
0:21:53Hi, Federico. Sorry for the first one.
0:21:55Sorry, the first one got lost on the way.
0:21:58I hope you like this little guy when he finally gets to you.
0:22:01Thanks for all you do, Alan.
0:22:03Alan, thank you so much. This is a...
0:22:05And there's yarn holding the card.
0:22:08This is so lovely, Ellen. Incredible. Thank you. Thank you. Really nice handwriting, too.
0:22:14Okay, there's more stuff. All right, let's see.
0:22:19There's a... Ah, this is a holiday card from the Hackett family. That blew up the entire UPS system.
0:22:33They wanted to know the value of this holiday card.
0:22:37Yeah, that was the problem with the card, right?
0:22:38You know, I sent UPS Italy a very stern email a couple of weeks ago.
0:22:43They were asking me for a market value of the holiday card.
0:22:48They wrote to me saying, "We cannot determine the market value of the following items.
0:22:53Holiday greeting card."
0:22:55I replied to them saying that it was unacceptable, that I literally wrote,
0:22:59it's unacceptable that you are holding a gift from a friend of mine hostage in your system.
0:23:06So maybe that was an unfortunate choice of words because maybe I upset them?
0:23:10Maybe.
0:23:11What is the market value of a holiday card? Like what is the answer to that question?
0:23:17Like this is priceless to me, it came from a friend, now what are you gonna do?
0:23:21Wow, did you know that Steven on this holiday card wrote "I'm the new chairman,
0:23:29you suck. Wow, thank you, Steven. Whoa! Which is weird because I shipped it a month before we did the
0:23:35Ricky's. I was so confident. You cheated. That's that's proof of best proof of fixing. Yes. Ricky fixing.
0:23:42There's more stuff in the box. Of course there is because this needs to continue.
0:23:47More. There's a little bag, this little bag featuring postcards of Steven's old Macs, like the photos
0:23:58from the calendar. Oh yeah, these are your extras. The prints. Oh my god, there are the prints.
0:24:03Oh, there's an apple. What's it called? The Pippin? The Gringen Con. Oh my god, Steven.
0:24:10Power PC. These are so good. Look at this guy. It's basically like Federico Christmas at the moment.
0:24:20It is. It was supposed to be.
0:24:22And there are stickers.
0:24:25There are stickers, yeah.
0:24:27Oh my god, these are going to go on my iPad Pro.
0:24:31I resisted the temptation of putting stickers on the iPad Pro so far.
0:24:34There's a little iPod sleeping in the sock.
0:24:39My god, these are so cool.
0:24:40I wouldn't recommend doing that yet,
0:24:43because I feel like you might only get a few months out of those stickers on the current iPad, right?
0:24:48I feel like if you really love the sticker...
0:24:50The magic keyboard, is it gonna...
0:24:51They changed the magic keyboard last year.
0:24:53Oh, okay. Fair enough.
0:24:54They're not gonna change it again.
0:24:55Okay. I thought you were gonna put them on the iPad itself.
0:24:57Hold on, there's more stuff in the box.
0:25:00No way!
0:25:01But wait, there's more.
0:25:03This is the last item.
0:25:05Box is done.
0:25:08Get out of the way. Come on, Jesus.
0:25:10Freaking box.
0:25:11There it goes. There it goes.
0:25:12Alright. Oh, God, I made a giant mess of everything.
0:25:17Okay, there are magnets in here.
0:25:23This is the official connected magnet.
0:25:30So there are stickers with the Ricky's, the Ricky's trophy sticker.
0:25:37And, oh my God, this, the mag tricky.
0:25:41It smells incredible.
0:25:43Have you smelled the back of the mag tricky?
0:25:46I feel like it's probably not good for you.
0:25:48Oh my God.
0:25:49This smells like you're inhaling that is going to kill me.
0:25:53And I love it.
0:25:53Oh my God.
0:25:55It smells incredible.
0:25:57I have not smelled my magic tricky.
0:25:59Okay.
0:26:00So I have two of them.
0:26:02I have two of them.
0:26:05I'm going to keep one in the box and there's the little, Oh God.
0:26:11Okay.
0:26:12I have the magnets, which are two silver ones
0:26:16and a bigger golden one.
0:26:18These are really strong magnets.
0:26:20They're very strong magnets.
0:26:21How is that possible?
0:26:22They're much stronger than I anticipated,
0:26:26but I had to buy them in bulk,
0:26:28and so they are what they are.
0:26:30They're so strong that it's, this is a funny thing.
0:26:33Unless you put the magnet on something magnetic,
0:26:36it is not possible for me and you to be helpful.
0:26:41So if you put the magnet down on like a wood or something and you try and put one of the
0:26:47silver things on me and Federico's locations, they just fly together.
0:26:51So you have to kind of put it on something.
0:26:53It's a magnet.
0:26:54What were you expecting?
0:26:55It goes on something.
0:26:56So.
0:26:57So.
0:26:58So.
0:26:59And your golden magnet goes to?
0:27:00No, so there's been confusion around this.
0:27:03My thought was you use the silver ones for the winners unless someone is combined and
0:27:09they get to use the gold one.
0:27:11- Okay.
0:27:12- 'Cause you have two silver, so right now,
0:27:13one would be on Memphis and one would be on you.
0:27:15- All right.
0:27:16- And when I win the next event one,
0:27:18I would get the gold one over Memphis.
0:27:19- Wait, I am the keynote chairman right now?
0:27:21- Aren't you?
0:27:22Or is that Myke?
0:27:23- No, it's Federico.
0:27:24- I think it's Federico.
0:27:25- It's me?
0:27:26Oh, well done, me.
0:27:26Okay.
0:27:27- So on the Wikipedia, rickys.net,
0:27:31Jason has actually got a guide, which is hilarious
0:27:33because we all clearly very much need the guide
0:27:36of how to explain for both the official
0:27:39wooden illuminated tricky and the mag tricky,
0:27:41'cause they are different,
0:27:42because on the tricky, the real tricky trophy,
0:27:46the annual is the larger circle.
0:27:48- Yeah.
0:27:49- At least someone's keeping track of this.
0:27:51- Yeah, 'cause you can't really like overlap magnets
0:27:55in the same way that you can the--
0:27:57- Can I destroy the little padding,
0:28:00the plastic bags filled with air?
0:28:02- Yeah, please. - Can I do it?
0:28:04- Uh-huh.
0:28:05- Oh, that was underwhelming.
0:28:08yeah that was pretty oh this is got this is gonna make more noise hold on oh
0:28:15no how do you feel about popping balloons are very good you like doing it
0:28:25okay yes especially to kids wait as in like a kids got a balloon you pop it or
0:28:33You ready for Pop It?
0:28:34It may have happened on occasion.
0:28:38He's such a prankster.
0:28:39He is.
0:28:40I know, right?
0:28:41Oh, god.
0:28:42So I made a mess of everything.
0:28:46This calendar is going to go on my desk, like above my desk.
0:28:52The Mag Tricky will go on the fridge.
0:28:55The stickers will go on the Magic Keyboard.
0:28:58And where's Little Ricky going to go?
0:29:00On my desk.
0:29:01Next to my next to my amplifier.
0:29:04Here you go.
0:29:05So the saga of the shipping is finally complete.
0:29:09It is.
0:29:10It's complete.
0:29:10Thank you unnamed.
0:29:13Pilot.
0:29:13Well, we know your name, but we cannot share your name.
0:29:16Thank you listener pilot for your service.
0:29:20Thank you for your service.
0:29:22Whenever, whenever I have the same, we like pilots.
0:29:26I think of the catch me if you can movie
0:29:29and like how pilots are presented as like these super like fancy people that everybody respects.
0:29:35I think a pilot's that way like in that movie.
0:29:38Yeah.
0:29:39I think people do treat pilots like that.
0:29:42Yeah.
0:29:42Like they have that certain energy when they walk through the airport.
0:29:45Yes, they have that sort of big plane energy.
0:29:49I mean luckily they walk confidently which is what you want to see.
0:29:54Like if I don't want to see my pilot like shuffling nervously towards the plane, you know?
0:30:00Like your pilot is the crappy little guy.
0:30:02Well like they like walk up to the door and turn around and walk back and then go "oh I don't know"
0:30:06and then they go on. I don't want that.
0:30:08We all know that Myke wants his pilot to be taller than he is.
0:30:10100%. Well I know my pilot's taller than me, right?
0:30:15That's how I always imagine it. The pilots are always bigger than me. Big people.
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0:32:14So last time we spoke about Wordle and Federico's WordleBot
0:32:18And there's an update to the WordleBot which we'll get to in a second. I was trying to tell a very quick antidote and oh my god
0:32:25I'm all over the place today. What is the word not antidote?
0:32:28Anecdote. There you go. A very quick antidote about Wordle today. I woke up this morning and
0:32:35Everyone I saw posting online was solving the Wordle in two
0:32:40therefore today I did not play Wordle because I knew I wouldn't get it in 2
0:32:43and so I was like I don't want to play this and feel bad
0:32:46so I didn't get it in 2 either don't worry about it. Okay cool well I know
0:32:50what it is now because I asked Adina I was like what was Wordle today she told
0:32:53me and I realized I wouldn't have got it in 2.
0:32:55I think it was very much a like starter word Wordle for people today so like it
0:33:00worked out pretty well for a lot of people.
0:33:01Anyway so Federico posted an update to the Wordle bot
0:33:05to make it more accessible. Now this was surprising to me because
0:33:09So I'm definitely showing a, and I'm fine to say it,
0:33:12we all don't know everything, this was a surprise to me
0:33:15because I had assumed that the Wordlebot that you had
0:33:19was more accessible because you added explainer text
0:33:25with the emoji, right?
0:33:26So the thing that you did was like,
0:33:29oh, second line, two correct letters, one incorrect.
0:33:33So I thought, oh, that is obviously more accessible
0:33:37than how it was prior.
0:33:38And the way that you did it was like, oh, now it outputs an image.
0:33:42And I couldn't understand how this would be better
0:33:45because an image is like an image, right?
0:33:49Like if you can't see the image clearly, how could it be any better?
0:33:54So could you explain how, why, and then what you did?
0:33:58So the way that I approached this initially is exactly as you mentioned.
0:34:03I thought just by adding the explainer text on each line,
0:34:07This is going to be more accessible than the default sharing mechanism of Wordle.
0:34:13And it was, but it wasn't enough, because it still was not fixing the main problem.
0:34:20There's a core problem with the way that Wordle shares results as a block of emoji.
0:34:26And specifically, the problem is that people who rely on screen-reading technologies like
0:34:33voiceover, when voiceover hits one of those tweets that contain all the, you
0:34:39know, contain the grid of all the emoji from your moral results, if you listen
0:34:45to what voiceover does, it sounds horrible, because it basically starts
0:34:51reading green square, gray square, gray square, green square, yellow square, and so
0:34:56forth for each line and each emoji on each line. It's not a good experience,
0:35:01It's not a pleasant experience.
0:35:05And my shortcut, the original version of my shortcut, was not doing anything to fix that.
0:35:10Images -- and this sounds funny because for years we've been told and we thought, you
0:35:15know, sharing an image, like sharing a screenshot of text on Twitter is not accessible.
0:35:23And by default, it is not.
0:35:24It's still not accessible if you do that.
0:35:27The thing though is that now on Twitter you can share an image and you can attach an alt text attribute to that image.
0:35:37You can attach a description to the image.
0:35:41And this is important because when screen readers like VoiceOver, they read out loud
0:35:48a tweet that contains an image, if that image contains the alternative text, they are going
0:35:54to read out loud that description to people who use VoiceOver. It's like you can add a
0:36:01caption to the image that you share on Twitter that VoiceOver, in this case on all Apple
0:36:08platforms, VoiceOver will read, thus making the image more accessible than the block of
0:36:15emoji. Because VoiceOver is going to say image, description for the image, and it's going
0:36:21to read your description of the image that you attach to your tweet.
0:36:25So I have improved Wordlebot to support two different output formats.
0:36:32The classic one with a block of emoji and the description for each line.
0:36:38So you're going to have your classic line of emoji and next to the line a summary.
0:36:46Or you can now export your emoji grid as a PNG image.
0:36:51It saves to your photo library.
0:36:53You can attach the image to a tweet, and either on the Twitter website, in the Twitter app,
0:37:00in Tweetbot, and in any other compatible client that supports accessible images, you can open
0:37:06the alt text field for the image, you can hit paste, and you will have the line results
0:37:15already filled in, that will serve as your description for the image that you are attaching
0:37:21to your tweet.
0:37:23So that folks who use VoiceOver, when VoiceOver reads the tweet on the timeline, it will say
0:37:28"image", "description for the image", "line 1", "2 perfect", "1 partial", and so forth.
0:37:34How do I see the alt text description on an image?
0:37:39I can't, right?
0:37:40You have to use VoiceOver.
0:37:41I think in the Twitter app you have, it's only shown if you use VoiceOver.
0:37:46I'm not sure if in third-party clients, some of them allow you to see it, even if you have
0:37:54VoiceOver disabled.
0:37:55Okay, yeah.
0:37:57They're saying in Discord that you can't.
0:38:00Apparently on Android they do, which is odd, but it might be like an Android accessibility
0:38:05option.
0:38:06But yeah, okay, fair enough.
0:38:07Well, this is cool to do this then.
0:38:09This seems complicated though.
0:38:10It was because there's no, there's no, you would think, oh, in shortcuts, I'm sure there's
0:38:17a way to say, take this emoji text and make it into an image. There is not, there's no,
0:38:27in shortcuts there's no action that explicitly lets you do text to image. You can do it implicitly,
0:38:36Meaning you can take a text action, put images from input after it, and you will get an image.
0:38:47But there's no control over how that image is put together.
0:38:51Meaning you cannot style the size or the proportion or the alignment of the text at all.
0:39:00Why is your Wordle formatted in a circle?
0:39:03I don't know, man.
0:39:05Don't ask me.
0:39:06There's nothing you can do about that by default.
0:39:09Now, there are some third-party shortcut utilities
0:39:13that have actions to do that.
0:39:16However, I did not want to have any third-party dependencies
0:39:20into this shortcut.
0:39:21This is a very popular shortcut that has really taken off,
0:39:25and I don't want to add any complication to people
0:39:28in saying, "Oh, but make sure you install
0:39:31this third-party app from the App Store."
0:39:33It's not a great experience.
0:39:35So I remembered from my Apple Music Wrapped experiments
0:39:40a few years ago, I remember that there was a way
0:39:44to sort of work your way around text to image conversion
0:39:49in shortcuts by using this ridiculous workaround
0:39:54that involves creating a local webpage
0:39:58and using HTML to turn text into an image.
0:40:03I know it's ridiculous, but it works.
0:40:05And so I did some Googling and someone on Reddit,
0:40:09which I linked on Mac stories
0:40:12and also credited them in the shortcut,
0:40:14had this exact same problem last year.
0:40:17And they came up with a solution for converting emoji
0:40:21to images in shortcuts.
0:40:24You're basically loading this HTML data as a URL,
0:40:29and then you're saying crop the URL,
0:40:32which is totally ridiculous, but it works.
0:40:35I had to modify that to get the exact dimensions
0:40:39that I wanted, and I also needed to figure out
0:40:42how to turn a grid, this is a fun,
0:40:46it was a fun programming problem for me,
0:40:49like how do you turn a grid of emoji into one image?
0:40:54Because if you think about it,
0:40:55I only had a way to get a single emoji
0:40:59and make it into an image.
0:41:01But what I needed to do was, I needed to start two repeat loops, basically.
0:41:08Because what I needed to do was, OK, I need to break it line by line
0:41:14and do all the emoji on the same line,
0:41:18and I need to merge them horizontally,
0:41:21so that I have one image that is just one line of all the squares next to each other.
0:41:27But then I also need to merge them vertically, right?
0:41:31Because I need to put one line after the other.
0:41:34And so it was fun to solve this
0:41:36with multiple repeat loops in shortcuts.
0:41:41Basically, for those curious,
0:41:43I'm splitting the grid of emoji by line,
0:41:47and then I'm splitting the line by character.
0:41:50And the shortcut iterates through all the characters
0:41:53and then merges all the lines,
0:41:55and you end up with a single PNG
0:41:57that is saved into the Photos app.
0:42:00So that was fun.
0:42:02Shouldn't be this difficult though,
0:42:04to make an emoji into an image in Shortcuts, but it works.
0:42:09- Thank you for your service.
0:42:10- You're welcome.
0:42:11It was fun.
0:42:13- So like Steven has a bathtub segment,
0:42:16I feel like I should have a segment
0:42:18where I bring products that I find on the internet
0:42:22to the two of you that I think you might be interested in.
0:42:25Today I have two charging related products.
0:42:28They tend to be charging related things too, I realize.
0:42:31I have the Mophie MagSafe Compatible
0:42:35three-in-one travel charger, catchy name from Mophie there.
0:42:40But this is a very interesting
0:42:42and I think kind of cool product.
0:42:43It is a fold-up charger like the MagSafe Duo,
0:42:47but it has three elements to it.
0:42:49It is fully MagSafe certified compatible.
0:42:53so it charges up to 15 watts.
0:42:55So it gets the full power that MagSafe can get.
0:42:58That's in the middle.
0:42:59On either side of it, you have a little AirPods tray.
0:43:01So it's a Qi charge, which has like a molded part,
0:43:04which would fit AirPods.
0:43:06Obviously, I don't know how that's gonna work
0:43:08as they change AirPod cases, et cetera, et cetera,
0:43:10but we'll see.
0:43:11And also a watch charger.
0:43:13They can both charge up to five watts.
0:43:15It comes with a cable and a 30 watt brick to power it all.
0:43:19And a cute little pouch.
0:43:20It's 149, oh $149.95 available from the Apple store right now.
0:43:25I think it's just in the US,
0:43:30I guess I couldn't find it in the UK
0:43:32'cause I would have bought this product
0:43:33because I think that this is a really good looking product.
0:43:36- I can ship it to you.
0:43:37- But now I just realized I can't do the MagSafe
0:43:40because of the PopSocket, but anyway.
0:43:43- You know, you made fun of the name,
0:43:45but I think these chargers have the best names of anything
0:43:48in our sort of world because it's exactly what it is.
0:43:53So go, what is that?
0:43:54Oh, it's a three-in-one travel charger.
0:43:56You totally get it.
0:43:56- Fair enough.
0:43:58You are completely correct.
0:43:59It's a boring name, it's a long name, but it works.
0:44:02The next one is a, this is purely for Federico, this one.
0:44:07It is a Belkin MagSafe charger.
0:44:09It is $60 from the Apple Store.
0:44:11It's available in black or white,
0:44:13comes with braided cable that's two meters in length,
0:44:15which is twice that of Apple's.
0:44:17It does the full 15 watt speed.
0:44:19But the reason it's just a Federico is this MagSafe charger has a kickstand.
0:44:23Come on.
0:44:25They have kickstands so you can charge and watch things, but it doesn't matter
0:44:30what it is because old kickstand teachy over here, super into it.
0:44:34Both of these are available on Apple's website, which that's why I reckon
0:44:39that they are like a rare thing.
0:44:41These are both fully MagSafe certified, these products, which isn't
0:44:45a thing that we see very much.
0:44:47Yeah, but is it available in Italy?
0:44:49Like, that's my problem with all the Belkin stuff.
0:44:52It's not available for me.
0:44:54Neither of these products are available for me either.
0:44:57So, we're gonna have to get, I guess, one true John on the case.
0:45:00Oh, wait a second.
0:45:02Or, what is it, Big Apple Buddy?
0:45:04Wait a second, wait a second.
0:45:07So, this one with the kickstand is not available.
0:45:11However, I just searched the Italian Apple Store,
0:45:15and I think that finally the 3-in-1 Belkin charging pad
0:45:20is available for me in Italy.
0:45:23- What is that one?
0:45:24What is that one?
0:45:25- The one that we talked about a while back
0:45:27that does the fast charging for the watch.
0:45:29I think it's this one.
0:45:30- Oh, Belkin Boost Charge,
0:45:31Boost Up Arrow Charge TM Pro 3-in-1 wireless charging pad
0:45:36with MagSafe.
0:45:37- Okay, that's a bad name.
0:45:38- I think it's finally available for me.
0:45:42Guys, don't buy it.
0:45:43Don't steal it from me, alright?
0:45:45Please, I need this thing on my nightstand.
0:45:48Are you worried that everyone in Italy is currently buying it because you're talking about it?
0:45:52Yes.
0:45:53Are they all taller or shorter than you?
0:45:56No, see that's the thing. I think that everybody is listening to me all the time.
0:46:00That's one of my things.
0:46:01Interesting.
0:46:02I mean, to be fair, they should.
0:46:04Have you ever seen the Truman Show?
0:46:07No, no, listening as in following my advice.
0:46:11Oh, they're just... it's not like a creepy thing. Everyone's just like...
0:46:14It's a pleasant thing.
0:46:16Oh, this isn't like an "I think people are listening to me, it's bad."
0:46:19It's like, everyone pays attention to my every word because it's so good.
0:46:22Everybody pays attention to me.
0:46:24This is like a weird MagSafe... a weird air power, this thing.
0:46:29Yes, this is weird air power and it does Apple...
0:46:32It's like air power from another dimension or something.
0:46:35Yes, it's boring air power, which is exactly what I wanted.
0:46:39You've got the three separate positions and you put the things down and they charge.
0:46:45And it comes with fast charging for the Apple Watch Series 7, which is the new thing this year.
0:46:51I just found a product on Apple Store.
0:46:52They must have added a bunch of stuff today.
0:46:54The Belkin Secure Holder with Wire Cable for AirTag.
0:46:58Oh, this is new.
0:47:00Must be new, right?
0:47:01This is exactly what I'm looking for for luggage stuff.
0:47:05It's like, basically you lock it into place and it never comes off until you unscrew it
0:47:10again, I guess, as like a key or something.
0:47:12I could take one of those.
0:47:13Do you see they've even got, there's one of an image, Steven, you'll like it.
0:47:16It's like attached to a Pelican case.
0:47:18Oh, where is this?
0:47:19I need to find this.
0:47:21Well, I put it in the Discord, it's also in the show notes.
0:47:24But this looks cool.
0:47:25That does look cool.
0:47:26I hope they have this on the UK website, I bet they don't.
0:47:28But I'll do whatever I want.
0:47:30They come in white or black.
0:47:32Mm-hmm.
0:47:33Yeah, I'm ordering a couple of these.
0:47:37Is this something that I want?
0:47:38Oh, it's on the UK store!
0:47:40Hooray!
0:47:41Hooray.
0:47:42I'm going to get one of these because this is exactly what I wanted when I was still
0:47:46trying to...
0:47:47Oh, it's sold out.
0:47:48So that's good.
0:47:49No!
0:47:50I expect it's like not yet available.
0:47:54They've got the thing up but it hasn't actually been made available here.
0:47:57But I'll look forward to that because that's exactly what I was looking for.
0:48:02And so concludes my tour of Apple's new accessories.
0:48:06Thank you for your service, Myke.
0:48:09Anytime.
0:48:10I'm stuck using Apple Pay to buy one of these Belkin things.
0:48:14I can't read an ad yet.
0:48:16Oh, we've got to like, just spend some time for you here.
0:48:20Yeah, come on.
0:48:21There we go.
0:48:22Just like jump a little bit.
0:48:23Because I'm on an Intel Mac, so it has to like talk to my phone for me to do it.
0:48:26It took a long time.
0:48:27Yeah, that can be a little bit unreliable.
0:48:29Yes.
0:48:30I've agreed.
0:48:31- Okay, now it's done.
0:48:33Now we can move on.
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0:51:10Roast me, baby.
0:51:12We're doing it again.
0:51:13Roast me.
0:51:15So, okay.
0:51:17So I got to say something here.
0:51:19Does it have to be as mean as the last time?
0:51:24What happened last time that you said that you didn't have a memory of it being me?
0:51:28I don't know, we were very mean about it. You guys were both mean to me.
0:51:31Why?
0:51:32Because you roasted me.
0:51:34But like, what was mean about it?
0:51:37I don't know, the whole thing.
0:51:38Well, here's the thing. Hey, I tell you what, right? You're going last, right?
0:51:43We're on our list. It's going to be me, then Steven, then Federico.
0:51:47You have the ability, Federico, to set up how you're going to be roasted.
0:51:53You know, if you come at me when you look at my screenshots here,
0:51:57you know, then I'm gonna clap back at you.
0:52:01But if you, you know, roasts don't have to be mean.
0:52:05They can be, you know, we can just, you can just comment on my stuff.
0:52:09But it's when you start saying stuff like, "Oh, how can you even see your icons of
0:52:13that wallpaper?" Then, you know.
0:52:14I think of roasts as a clickbait thing to get people to listen to the chapters.
0:52:19Right.
0:52:19We don't have to be mean to each other.
0:52:21No.
0:52:21Well, you both were mean to me.
0:52:23Okay, well we'll try to behave this time, but let's start with Myke.
0:52:25[laughter]
0:52:27I don't remember being mean, I apologize.
0:52:30It was very, very, very, very mean, very...
0:52:32Scarring?
0:52:33Kindergarten mean, you know?
0:52:35Kindergarten mean.
0:52:37Yes, yes.
0:52:38Right.
0:52:38Anyway, look at this wallpaper.
0:52:41[laughter]
0:52:43What sucker has this?
0:52:44Well, some can't. So we are roasting iPad home screens.
0:52:49iPad home screens today.
0:52:51We've done... you guys have done Mac docs before I had a Mac.
0:52:56I guess maybe we should do an addendum at some point for my MacBook Pro doc.
0:53:00Well, I mean, you had one, but you just weren't really doing anything with it.
0:53:03So I guess maybe we could do that as a mini topic in the future, as Federico's...
0:53:07I think we did that when you were at the beach one week.
0:53:10Yes, yes. And also my Mac mini was not with me physically.
0:53:14Oh, okay, cool. That's a good... we can put that info later on. Let's get Federico.
0:53:18Plus your menu bar's madness.
0:53:21Are we doing dock or menu bar for you?
0:53:23You didn't do it. Is it dock or menu bar,
0:53:25the one that you didn't do?
0:53:26I think it was dock, right?
0:53:27-I think it was dock. -I don't remember.
0:53:29I didn't do the dock, yeah.
0:53:31We've done iPhone home screens,
0:53:33and now we're doing iPad home screens.
0:53:35And now I would like for context here to say that
0:53:40I was the only one in this group of people
0:53:44that bothered to use an iPad Pro,
0:53:49these two just took a screenshot of an iPad Mini.
0:53:53Well, I mean, I could have taken a screenshot of my iPad Pro,
0:53:56but that would have been useless to you because I don't use it.
0:54:00Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
0:54:01So I took a screenshot of the iPad I use every day,
0:54:05not one that I use once every few weeks.
0:54:08And again, you've gone mean already.
0:54:11You've gone mean.
0:54:12No, I'm not.
0:54:13See, I know I am not mean. I am doing it out of love. Like I'm just saying, you know, to
0:54:21make you better as a person. All right, cool. So again, you are setting the energy that
0:54:27you want by the time we get round to yours. So I have two screens for you. They're in
0:54:33the, you have them. I've put them in the notes. They're available to you. What would you roast
0:54:40Okay, what is it gonna take? What is it gonna take for you to change this wallpaper?
0:54:47Finding a better image that I like more.
0:54:48Put a price on this wallpaper.
0:54:50There is no price. What do you mean put a price?
0:54:52No, there must be a price. Okay, would you change your wallpaper if I sent you right now $1,000?
0:54:58Wow.
0:54:59No.
0:55:00How about $2,000?
0:55:01Well, because you like it.
0:55:03$5,000.
0:55:04Yeah, I'll do it for $5,000. I'll change my wallpaper for $5,000.
0:55:09Okay, would you do it for four and a half?
0:55:11No, I've set up five now, that's my price.
0:55:13Zach wants to know if you would do it for $68.7 billion.
0:55:17Yeah, I'll change everyone's wallpaper.
0:55:18I'll find a way to go around
0:55:20and change everyone's wallpaper for $68.7 billion.
0:55:24Okay, so wallpaper is not gonna change.
0:55:26You know what's quite funny to me?
0:55:26I have this image open, right, and I'm looking at it.
0:55:28Behind it is my iMac desktop, same wallpaper.
0:55:32(laughs)
0:55:34So I'm liking some kind of recursive nightmare.
0:55:38I would like to focus on the bottom right corner
0:55:42of this home screen.
0:55:44In the dock, there's the app library.
0:55:47That icon, is that the economist?
0:55:50- It's also on the home screen.
0:55:52- It's also on his home screen.
0:55:53- That's on the, oh my God, you're so adult and fancy now.
0:55:58- I read the economist every morning now.
0:56:02- Oh, you do.
0:56:03In your top hat and your monocle.
0:56:07sitting there with your iPad mini? Well before when I was reading comic books at
0:56:11my top pack at Monaco it didn't really work so I just switched to the
0:56:14economist. Okay before we go any further we need to roast Apple a little bit for
0:56:20the iPad mini. How bad are the margins on the home screen? It's so stupid! The spacing it's so bad why? Like there's
0:56:29there are so many problems with the with the home screen in general I mean we
0:56:33mentioned before on the show, like, how there's limited flexibility with stacks,
0:56:38you cannot mix and match widgets of multiple sizes, the spacing and
0:56:44the sizing of the shortcut widget, which is also in this home screen, is so bad,
0:56:49like, why are the shortcuts in the shortcut widget so huge? I feel like you
0:56:55could fit double the number of shortcuts in the shortcuts widget and it would still work.
0:57:00like I could fit a whole row of app icons on either side of the grid right
0:57:06like that that margin the margin so much on that side I feel like it's not as
0:57:14noticeable in like when you're holding the iPad but in the screenshots it's
0:57:21really bad well I I was looking at the screenshot I didn't notice it until you
0:57:25mentioned it now I can't stop noticing it because you just get used to it right
0:57:29but it's not great. So yeah Apple must do a better job here. Okay, shortcuts.
0:57:38Mega temp. What do you think it might do? You're setting the temperature of
0:57:46Mega Studio? I have HomeKit radiators, like HomeKit radiator valves. Oh okay. And so it
0:57:53just turns them, it's like just it basically activates either on or off
0:57:56Like so I tap it and it's like do you want it on or off and either turn the radiators on or turn the radiators off
0:58:00Oh, no. Oh, no. Well, I just I've been looking at this in discord, but it's open in a new tab in Safari. Uh-huh
0:58:07Your background image is a picture of wallpaper at this hotel in LA
0:58:13Yeah, but your photo includes a seam in the physical wallpaper
0:58:17Yeah, and so like the leave doesn't line up like if you look next to the TV app icon
0:58:22It makes it so much worse what you need to understand very clearly is I don't care
0:58:26- Right. - Move down eight inches.
0:58:28- What you think about this?
0:58:30I don't know. - That's what I was saying.
0:58:32Like, what would it take for you to care?
0:58:34- But the thing is- - And apparently $5,000
0:58:36is the answer. - I don't think
0:58:37this is leaves.
0:58:38I know this is wallpaper.
0:58:40Wallpaper has seams.
0:58:42It makes sense to me that it's there, right?
0:58:45- I wanna Photoshop it and like fix it for you.
0:58:48- So just let me double check here.
0:58:50You know that by, when we say setting a wallpaper
0:58:54on your home screen, (laughing)
0:58:54don't mean a physical wallpaper.
0:58:56- Wait, what?
0:58:57I thought you could only choose actual wallpaper.
0:59:01- This is like the tall people and looking after them.
0:59:04You don't have to do that literally.
0:59:06- I've lost in my life.
0:59:09- Okay, okay, hold on.
0:59:10Shop rep and shop rep iOS ellipsis.
0:59:15- Yeah, okay, so this is like,
0:59:17that is called show prep iOS 15.
0:59:20So I technically, it doesn't need to say that anymore,
0:59:23But I've not decided which one of these two I want to keep.
0:59:26Because the one on the left, what it does is it will say,
0:59:28hey, what show, sets a timer, and then opens the Google
0:59:32Doc for that related show.
0:59:35The show prep iOS 15 one opens a split screen
0:59:40of Safari, Google Docs, and slides in the Apple
0:59:46Note in a slide over.
0:59:50And I just haven't decided which one of those I prefer.
0:59:52So I've not gotten rid of one or the other yet.
0:59:56- Okay, okay.
0:59:58That's nice.
0:59:59- 'Cause sometimes they're doing all of the show.
1:00:01It's like, it's not always what I want.
1:00:02Sometimes with some shows, I just want to read the document.
1:00:05Like I don't need Safari to be there.
1:00:07So like, I just haven't decided
1:00:09which one of these two shortcuts I'm gonna keep.
1:00:11So what I would probably do is just rename the other one,
1:00:14like, and keep them both,
1:00:16because then I can just choose
1:00:18whether I want the whole shebang
1:00:20or I just want to open the Google document.
1:00:22- My last question for you, Myke,
1:00:23is the fantastical widget.
1:00:25You have the Excel fantastical widget,
1:00:28which is a very nice widget.
1:00:29However, is the heat map on the calendar ever useful
1:00:34considering that all the days are yellow?
1:00:36- I know.
1:00:37This is a particular issue that I have.
1:00:40Like, I wished this could be more relative, right?
1:00:44Well, like, I always have.
1:00:45Because you can see a subtle shade of orange on bees here days, but it's very faint.
1:00:52Of the three options, I prefer this one.
1:00:55I don't like the dots because that's not useful to me at all.
1:00:58I don't like it to just be blank.
1:01:00There are occasions when this is useful to me, but it's rare.
1:01:05But I like having the date thing there anyway, and so I just choose one of the three.
1:01:10Just so you know, there's some stacks.
1:01:11So there's Carrotweather on the Fantasti-Cal.
1:01:14cow. Okay. There is a shortcuts underneath Timery, which is just timer related shortcuts
1:01:21and the photos widget in the bottom right corner. There is a Widgetsmith photos widget
1:01:27and also a Widgetsmith timezone widget. The only one of those that I have automatically
1:01:33changing is the carrot and fantastic cow one. Well, I mean, besides the wallpaper, um, and
1:01:42the economist and the economist and narwhal which I still don't understand why
1:01:48like every time this every time I try to use Apollo
1:01:52Apollo is simple! I feel like the only way I can get it to a point where I want to use it is by
1:01:56setting 7,000 preferences first and every time I try I just give up this is
1:02:03one of your things it's one of my things you don't want to change your mind about
1:02:07I tried so many times with Apollo.
1:02:10I'm surprised that Steven hasn't asked a question.
1:02:14I've got a couple of things.
1:02:15Okay, good.
1:02:15Okay.
1:02:16You have Instagram, which does not have an iPad app.
1:02:18There you go.
1:02:19Yeah, but it's a really nice website.
1:02:21Is it?
1:02:22That web view is really good.
1:02:23Is it?
1:02:24Yeah.
1:02:25Yeah, yeah, okay.
1:02:26And you use it enough to want it on your--
1:02:29I love Instagram.
1:02:29I love Instagram.
1:02:31My biggest problem with this,
1:02:34I like the widgets at the top.
1:02:35I like the icons beneath them.
1:02:36you'll see that mine is laid out in a similar way.
1:02:39What I don't understand is the spatial relationship
1:02:43between the Timery widget and the Photos widget,
1:02:48which here is showing you some sort of food
1:02:50that you've cooked that looks like eyeballs.
1:02:51- Brussels sprouts, it's Brussels sprouts.
1:02:54- It's eyeballs.
1:02:54- Eyeballs sprouts.
1:02:55- Why are these two like not in a--
1:02:58- I like it.
1:02:59- It feels very strange.
1:03:01- I don't want them stacked up against each other.
1:03:03I like them kind of split apart like that.
1:03:05- Okay.
1:03:06I like it, but I just I think visually this makes the most sense for me. You don't think the rest of it
1:03:12I agree with most of your app choices
1:03:14I don't like the icon you use for slack or for overcast or for one password, but that's fine
1:03:21It's totally your call the aubergine slack one is the only one that makes like recognizable against all of the other
1:03:26multicolored
1:03:28App icons that exist in the world. Yeah, it does look like photos and I try to go back to it
1:03:33sometimes but I just can't do it. I use overcast in dark mode so I only ever see
1:03:36gray and blue so orange would make no freaking sense to me and what was the
1:03:40other one you didn't like? One password. Again, one password's always in dark mode
1:03:44so like why would I want to see the light mode icon? Alright well so that's
1:03:48your first... I have a second screen. Yeah let's do your second screen. It's not really that
1:03:53much of anything. There's the... this is the new time-ery extra large widget. Yeah.
1:04:00where we can see that you worked for five hours on Monday.
1:04:05- Yep.
1:04:06- Five and a half on Tuesday.
1:04:07- Yep.
1:04:08- And we can see what they're broken up against.
1:04:10A lot of it's blurred out for secrets.
1:04:13And then you have, is that a craft widget?
1:04:17- Yeah.
1:04:18- For Cortex brand.
1:04:20So we can't see that you're making a boomerang
1:04:22or whatever it is y'all are doing over there.
1:04:24(laughing)
1:04:25And then is this the transit thing
1:04:28that you have on your iPhone?
1:04:29- It's called Train Beacon.
1:04:31- Train Beacon.
1:04:32- And it's just like widgets that you can get
1:04:35from place to place.
1:04:36You can say from X station to Y station,
1:04:39and then it shows me all of the train times
1:04:41between those locations.
1:04:43- Why no apps?
1:04:45Why not kind of even it out with the first screen?
1:04:47- I don't really feel like I need any more apps, genuinely.
1:04:51Like between the dock and the first screen,
1:04:53like there's no other apps that I feel like I need
1:04:55that amount of access to.
1:04:59I want more widgets on this screen,
1:05:01I just haven't worked out which ones.
1:05:03Like the plan is like, so over time,
1:05:05I've added more widgets to this screen.
1:05:07And so like just as more cool widgets appear,
1:05:09I just put them on this screen.
1:05:11- Yeah, I guess it is nice to have like a landing place
1:05:13for them.
1:05:13- And it's just there,
1:05:14like this is almost just reference stuff.
1:05:16Like I don't really spend a lot of time on this screen.
1:05:18Like really it was mostly because I wanted to make sure
1:05:20I had the train one on there,
1:05:21'cause I do use that the most frequently.
1:05:24And I didn't want to put it on the main screen
1:05:26because I just didn't really feel
1:05:28like I knew where I could go.
1:05:29And then I would have to get rid of app icons.
1:05:31So I was like, oh.
1:05:32And I like the time reset.
1:05:33I like just having all the charts or whatever.
1:05:35So I just go for that.
1:05:38OK.
1:05:39No comments on my doc or anything.
1:05:41It's just aside from the icon choices you didn't like.
1:05:44Man, I agree with all the app choices.
1:05:46I know you use Spark.
1:05:49I think the three most recent apps
1:05:52is like totally an individual thing.
1:05:54I don't think I have that on on my iPad mini.
1:05:57- I like it enough.
1:05:58I use Tweetbot now by the way to look at Twitter,
1:06:02but just every now and then I like to look
1:06:04at Twitter's notifications thing
1:06:05'cause it just can be a bit better.
1:06:07And for searching, Twitter's better than Tweetbot.
1:06:10- Yes.
1:06:11- But I'm mostly using Tweetbot
1:06:14as like my Twitter experience.
1:06:15However, I am--
1:06:16- And that's not on the dock anywhere.
1:06:18- No, I don't have any Twitter apps on home screens
1:06:21or whatever, like I just don't do that.
1:06:24And I will say I'm disappointed
1:06:27in the Mac version of Tweetbot.
1:06:30I feel like the iOS version is doing a lot more cool stuff
1:06:34than the Mac version.
1:06:35- Yeah, because it's the old version,
1:06:37like the Mac is still stuck on Tweetbot.
1:06:40- And I don't understand why,
1:06:41'cause it's a subscription app now, right?
1:06:44- Yeah, they should, I--
1:06:46- The Mac app is still a separate purchase, I think.
1:06:49- Huh.
1:06:50I don't think it's gotten like lumped in.
1:06:52- It's not up to speed with the subscription plan yet.
1:06:54- It's very peculiar to me 'cause it's like,
1:06:56I feel like they're adding loads of stuff to the iOS app.
1:07:01And so I just kind of wonder why they're not touching
1:07:04the Mac app at all.
1:07:05Like I just, I don't know, it's just like strange.
1:07:07'Cause like it feels like there's stuff being added
1:07:09to the iOS app, which is like,
1:07:11hey, we've made a nice new design for the profile.
1:07:14It's like, great, this is nice, but I didn't need it.
1:07:15I would kind of like you to maybe do something
1:07:17with the Mac app, but hey, I'm gonna get that man
1:07:19in the business. So this is kind of where I am my iPad mini. I feel like I got off that one pretty
1:07:24well. I knew the thing that I knew was going to happen happened outside of that. I feel pretty good.
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1:09:02All right, my turn.
1:09:04- Okay, also an iPad mini?
1:09:06- Yes.
1:09:07- Okay, what is this background?
1:09:09- It is the dark theme Monterey background.
1:09:12I like my iPad to feel like it's a real computer,
1:09:14So I give it a Mac OS wallpaper sometimes.
1:09:16- Wasn't your--
1:09:17- Oh yeah, I use an iPad mini for that.
1:09:19- It wasn't your whole thing about the iPad mini
1:09:21that you were happy it didn't make you feel that way
1:09:24about it being a real computer?
1:09:26- I'm there, but it's not there yet.
1:09:28You know, coaching it along.
1:09:30- Motor Trend.
1:09:31- Yeah, I got sucked into some like car reality show.
1:09:34And so it's there in the Apple firm.
1:09:35- Oh, what's that?
1:09:36What's the car reality show?
1:09:37- What is the name of it?
1:09:38I'll find it for you.
1:09:39- Motor Trend.
1:09:40- Motor Trend. - New cars.
1:09:43"Kobo Rakuten."
1:09:46"Rakuten Kobo."
1:09:50"Rakuten.
1:09:51Why?"
1:09:52I have an old Kindle Oasis with the push buttons, because that's the way you should turn pages
1:09:58in an ebook reader, and one of the buttons has died on it, and it's way out of warranty,
1:10:04and this was happening about the time that our friend Jason was writing about the Kobo
1:10:08readers, how great they are.
1:10:10So I bought one and like did DRM things and all my books are on the Kobo and I've been
1:10:17I bought a couple books.
1:10:20It's weird I'm not completely sold on it yet.
1:10:23I feel weird that like what happens when I want to read a book that's not available on
1:10:27Kobo that's only on Amazon?
1:10:29That hasn't happened yet but maybe it could I don't know.
1:10:32So that used to be the Kindle app but now that I'm reading on a Kobo this is the Kobo
1:10:36books app in its place.
1:10:38What is the Kobo?
1:10:39the icon is horrific.
1:10:40-Tobu, what is the Kobo app like?
1:10:42-It's okay. -Okay.
1:10:44-It's, um, I mean, it's, I think it's very similar to the Kindle app.
1:10:48Like, it's pretty basic, but fine.
1:10:51-You have a very, like, straight-laced home screen.
1:10:55Everything's in rows. -Mm-hmm.
1:10:58-Yeah. -You know?
1:10:59-Mm. -It's like three widgets, two app rows.
1:11:02-Mm-hmm. And this is the only screen.
1:11:04-Yeah, I noticed that. There's a lot of light blue.
1:11:08There's a lot of light blue icons in the world.
1:11:10- There's a lot of blue.
1:11:11- And I think it looks nice with the purple wallpaper.
1:11:14- It's not a very exciting home screen.
1:11:16I think the most exciting thing on this home screen
1:11:18is the Bible.
1:11:19(laughing)
1:11:21- I was gonna say that, you beat me to it.
1:11:23- At least you have a chance to read, you know,
1:11:28the holy word on this home screen.
1:11:30- I think this came up when we did my iPhone as well.
1:11:33- Yeah, it's never gonna stop, I'm sorry,
1:11:35and I apologize for everyone.
1:11:37- It's quite the range, you know, on the same row.
1:11:41You go from Apple TV and Hulu to the Bible.
1:11:44- It is. - That's right.
1:11:45- In context with other things is it really,
1:11:48it's like it feels like nothing else is important enough.
1:11:51But I guess, you know, someone's gonna get to YouTube.
1:11:53It's just like.
1:11:54The reader icon though, you chose that blue.
1:12:00- Yes.
1:12:00- The brown looked bad against the wallpaper.
1:12:05And the red made it look very confusing with good links,
1:12:10which is right next to it.
1:12:11And so blue it was.
1:12:13- I think we've spoken about this before,
1:12:14but Todoist has no real good app icons.
1:12:17- Nope.
1:12:18- They're all just like, which one will you accept?
1:12:21- Yeah, I accept this one.
1:12:23I don't like the solid red one
1:12:24'cause the badge kind of blends into it.
1:12:26And so mine is white with the red checks.
1:12:29It's not great, but I feel like
1:12:30it's one of the least offensive ones.
1:12:32What is the mototron show you're watching?
1:12:36- Oh, I didn't even actually look.
1:12:37Let me see.
1:12:38I don't actually have my iPad out here.
1:12:39- There's something I need to ask you about.
1:12:41- Okay.
1:12:42- On this home screen,
1:12:43but it's not about the home screen itself.
1:12:46It's about the photo that is shown on the home screen.
1:12:49There's Mary picturing in this photo.
1:12:52She's making a funny face.
1:12:55She's sitting at a desk.
1:12:56On this desk, there's a pair of Pikachu headphones.
1:13:01Whoa!
1:13:02Can you provide some context here?
1:13:06Why do you keep these things from us?
1:13:08You know we wanna know if you've got Pikachu headphones.
1:13:09Why do you have Pikachu headphones?
1:13:12Our youngest child is very into Pokemon.
1:13:15And for his birthday or something last year,
1:13:17we got him some Pokemon headphones.
1:13:20So this photo's from last year
1:13:22when Mary was teaching remotely,
1:13:24the beginning of the pandemic.
1:13:26And she also sees she has a webcam and like a light.
1:13:29This is kind of like where she talked from, right? Yes. Yeah. Um,
1:13:33like a real like that. I rolled that work bench in for her to use as a desk.
1:13:37Pikachu have funds, man. So you keep these things from us. Yeah.
1:13:41Mary is the best thing on these homes. It's true. Mary and the Bible. I think,
1:13:46um, a single, a single test flight beta and it's overcast.
1:13:52Yeah. I don't, I have other betas, but they're all on my iPhone.
1:13:56Like I don't do any time tracking on the iPad.
1:14:00So Timery's not there.
1:14:02I think Slack is a beta, but it doesn't show in the doc.
1:14:06- Home. - Okay.
1:14:08Home, yeah.
1:14:09- Just like, what do you need the app icon for?
1:14:14- I have, we have a lot of HomeKit stuff going on now.
1:14:17- Okay. - And the iPad is actually,
1:14:19the iPad Mini is kind of a nice,
1:14:20if I use it mostly like in the evenings,
1:14:23And on my iPhone on the Today View,
1:14:27I have several widgets that are like shortcuts
1:14:30that trigger HomeKit stuff.
1:14:32But on the iPad, I find it really easy to just open it
1:14:34and like find the button.
1:14:35So there it is. - But like not
1:14:36Control Center though?
1:14:37Like you don't, it doesn't work for you?
1:14:39- Oh, it just, I don't know, it's just right there.
1:14:42It seemed easy enough.
1:14:43- I know you just, you seem to be refusing to tell us
1:14:48what this Motor Trend thing is.
1:14:49You keep saying, "I'm gonna go find out."
1:14:51- Yeah, there's something about it.
1:14:52and then you just stay quiet about it.
1:14:55And then I ask you again.
1:14:56- 'Cause it's a little embarrassing.
1:14:58- Yeah, see, I knew it was,
1:14:59and that's why I need you to tell me what it is
1:15:01so then you can live it.
1:15:04- There's something, you know what bothers me here?
1:15:09There's something shady about this home screen.
1:15:12It feels like you're hiding something.
1:15:14This is the home screen of someone who's hiding something.
1:15:17- Wow.
1:15:18- Either a page or something else in the app library.
1:15:21This is the home.
1:15:22This goes back to your mysterious character
1:15:27that we mentioned a while back.
1:15:29There's something else on this home screen,
1:15:32like either in the today column,
1:15:34you must have some really embarrassing widget in there,
1:15:38or something else in the app library
1:15:40that you're not showing.
1:15:41This is a home screen that you prepared for this episode.
1:15:46- It's really not,
1:15:47or I would have hidden the Motor Trend one.
1:15:50- It's really that I don't use my iPad Mini
1:15:52for almost anything more than what you see here.
1:15:56Like occasionally I will open something in Google Sheets
1:15:59or like a text editor, like I have iA Writer
1:16:03and a couple others installed.
1:16:05But this iPad is mostly like reading and social media stuff.
1:16:10And so this really is like,
1:16:12if I was gonna do a second screen,
1:16:13I don't even know, it would look like mics.
1:16:15I'd be like, I'd have some widgets,
1:16:16but I have no other apps that I use
1:16:18on a regular basis on this thing
1:16:19other than this grid.
1:16:21Federico, I reckon it's the content
1:16:23inside of these applications,
1:16:25was where the real secrets are.
1:16:26Like what's in good links, you know?
1:16:28I think, yeah, because otherwise this looks like
1:16:32one of those marketing home screens from apple.com.
1:16:35Oh look, it's perfect.
1:16:36This person has a calendar, a picture of his wife,
1:16:40the Bible, and Apple Music, and Apple TV.
1:16:43It's like, yeah, okay.
1:16:45When it is, it's like, you know like the mob,
1:16:48they like buy a store and then they keep the shop front the same right so it's
1:16:52like it's like you know it's like a fake store whatever that's what this is
1:16:56it's like all of the all of the action is going on inside of these applications
1:17:01but like out on the front the front it all seems like just hunky-dory you know
1:17:05it's pretty hunky-dory yeah it seems like it I'm taking music see you listen
1:17:10do you listen to music on your iPad or like what is what are you doing I do so
1:17:16I have a Bluetooth speaker set up in the in the garage and so I'll use it out there from working on something
1:17:22and also use that speaker sometimes for
1:17:25Apple finish plus if I don't use my AirPods for whatever reason so yeah the music it doesn't get a ton of use
1:17:31But I felt like it was enough to put on the iPad same with overcast all right
1:17:36I have nothing more like I was relatively unscathed
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1:19:40Federico Vittucci's iPad Pro. The first thing I was struck by was I was
1:19:46gonna say "hey how do you get the text to be so small?" and then I realized oh no
1:19:51wait this is a bigger iPad. That's why like there's so much more space in the
1:19:56shortcuts widget and stuff like that. So I mean I'm struck by a bunch of things
1:20:01so I'm just gonna, Stephen if you're happy I'm just gonna start picking some
1:20:04of these apart. Okay. What is share menu? Share menu is a... well first of all you
1:20:10obviously do not read MacStories Weekly which pains me greatly but still. I have
1:20:18MacStories Weekly goes into my RSS client and when I have some time I'll go
1:20:22through and read it. I don't read everything because MacStories Weekly is
1:20:25a lot of incredible information for a low low price but sometimes it's more
1:20:30information than I want to consume at any point.
1:20:34Share menu is my replacement for the shortcut integration with the share sheet.
1:20:39I don't know if you remember how Workflow used to be, that you had...
1:20:44If it helps, I do remember you talking about us on Mac stories, so I do...
1:20:48No, sorry, on App Stories. That's the name of your show, right?
1:20:51Okay.
1:20:51So, you know, at least I got that part of the Federico Vittucci Empire.
1:20:55Thank you.
1:20:56So Workflow used to have a run Workflow extension in the share sheet,
1:21:00that when you tapped it, it showed you a grid
1:21:01of your shortcuts with colors.
1:21:04I miss that because now you get all the individual shortcuts
1:21:07in the share sheet.
1:21:08And I just prefer to have a single place
1:21:11where I can trigger all of my shortcuts
1:21:13and see their colors,
1:21:16which by default shortcuts doesn't do anymore.
1:21:18So I built a shortcut to run other shortcuts.
1:21:22And usually I trigger it from my share sheet.
1:21:26However, I also built Share Menu
1:21:28so that I can use it as a widget from the home screen.
1:21:32And you may say, but there's no sharesheet there.
1:21:34In that case, it takes whatever is in my clipboard.
1:21:38So the same extensions that I see in the sharesheet,
1:21:42I tap this shortcut and I basically run another shortcut.
1:21:47There's a list in alphabetical order that says
1:21:50up to abuse or weekly link or Apple frames.
1:21:55And whatever is in my clipboard
1:21:57becomes the input for another shortcut.
1:21:59It's just a launcher, basically.
1:22:01It's a launcher for other shortcuts.
1:22:03- This was the second screenshot that you shared of us.
1:22:07I think you shared one earlier.
1:22:08I don't know what changed,
1:22:10but the second one has helped me understand something
1:22:13I didn't understand about the first one,
1:22:15which is that you have music at a picture-in-picture thing.
1:22:18I was like, what is that window?
1:22:20Just like not in the grid.
1:22:22How are you doing that?
1:22:26So this is going to be an article on Mac Stories at some point soon, I hope.
1:22:29He won't read it.
1:22:30Yeah, I won't read it, so I might as well just mention it to you here.
1:22:34It's this new thing called Floating Player, and it's exactly what it is.
1:22:41It's custom picture-in-picture for what is playing in music.
1:22:46This is meant to solve a very specific problem, which is I do not like to reach out to Control
1:22:52Center to see what's playing.
1:22:54Because I guess you can slide this off to the side, right?
1:22:57Yes, but in this case you may see how I kept the bottom right corner of my iPad home screen
1:23:05empty so that floating player can sort of be tucked in there and it doesn't bother anything
1:23:13else, like it doesn't float on top of anything else because that spot of my home screen is
1:23:17empty.
1:23:19I wish that it was properly aligned with the rest of the widgets, but the picture-in-picture thing snaps to other corners of the screen.
1:23:29But yes, this is an iPhone utility that you can install on the iPad, you run it in compatibility mode, it's fine.
1:23:37But it's one of the things that has been made possible by iOS 15, because developers can now do custom picture-in-picture in iOS 15.
1:23:45And this developer figured out how to do basically a now playing screen,
1:23:50but it runs in picture in picture.
1:23:53And you can skip play and pause. It's nice.
1:23:56And it shows you the album art. So that's cool.
1:23:59And this is pulling from Apple's music app, though, right? That's cool.
1:24:05Yeah, whatever is playing in the music app.
1:24:08Or in my case, I use Marvis as my main music player,
1:24:12because I like to scrabble.
1:24:14I like to scrabble, man.
1:24:15-He's still scrabbling? -I need to scrabble.
1:24:17-He's still scrabbling! -I'm still scrabbling.
1:24:18I'm scrabbling all the time.
1:24:20I'm all day scrabbling.
1:24:21-That's what I do. -Every day I'm scrabbling.
1:24:23What -- Have you had any interesting data
1:24:26presented to you from your scrabbling ways?
1:24:29Well, okay, so I -- Yeah.
1:24:33I absolutely love the Last.fm reports that they do.
1:24:37They do weekly and monthly reports
1:24:39that are actually way more useful than whatever Apple is doing with the Apple Music Replay thing.
1:24:46The Last.fm reports are actually cool. I love them. I'm having a bit of a problem,
1:24:52like, as we speak. Like, this morning I wasted two hours. Context. This whole Last.fm thing started
1:25:01because I was following the advice of friend of the show, friend of Mac's story, Jason Tate,
1:25:06of Chorus FM. Chorus FM is my favorite music website. If you are about my age, you may remember
1:25:13a website called absolutepunk.net from back in the day. Chorus FM is the new absolute punk.
1:25:21If you were into the whole emo punk rock scene in the mid-2000s, you know what I'm talking about.
1:25:27Jason is still running the website, but it's now called Chorus FM. Jason turned me on to Last.fm.
1:25:35Jason also built this very cool project which we linked on Mac Stories. It's a Raspberry Pi
1:25:42connected to a very small like four inch display that sits on his desk and shows him all the time
1:25:50whatever he's playing on Apple Music at the moment. He built this with the Last.fm API
1:25:58so that it shows him, like, real-time Scrobbles.
1:26:02And so I ordered the parts to also build this Last.fm,
1:26:09like, my real-time Scrobble display.
1:26:11-Scrobble bot. -I got a Raspberry Pi Zero,
1:26:15like, what's it called?
1:26:16Raspberry Pi Zero, W. W stands for Wi-Fi.
1:26:21And the screen --
1:26:22Actually, Jon shipped the screen to me from the U.S.
1:26:27I have all the parts, but my Raspberry Pi Zero is not connecting to Wi-Fi.
1:26:33It just doesn't want to do it. I followed all the tutorials, all the things.
1:26:37It just doesn't want to connect to my Wi-Fi.
1:26:39I wasted two hours this morning trying to get it on the Wi-Fi, but nothing.
1:26:44Just not anywhere.
1:26:45I don't know anything about this thing, but what I'll ask is,
1:26:48does it support 5 GHz Wi-Fi networks?
1:26:52No, but I turned it off.
1:26:54I already knew there was going to be a potential problem,
1:26:56So I'm running my network on the 2.4.
1:27:00I followed all the online tutorials.
1:27:02It just doesn't want to do it.
1:27:04So, hey, if you had this kind of issue
1:27:06and you have a Pi Zero W with an Orbi network by Netgear,
1:27:11hey, let me know on Twitter, maybe.
1:27:13Anyway, Last.fm, very useful.
1:27:15I love it.
1:27:16I'm a pro subscriber.
1:27:17I listen to Marvis, which is also in my dock
1:27:20right there with the blue icon.
1:27:22Scrubblin'.
1:27:23That's one of my favorite moments of this show ever.
1:27:27When you admitted to being back on last FM, it was just like incredible.
1:27:33I feel like we've got to ask the thing that everyone wants to know.
1:27:37Okay.
1:27:38What is weak board?
1:27:39Oh, that's a good task.
1:27:41That's good task.
1:27:42Okay.
1:27:44Interesting.
1:27:44They have the Kanban, the Kanban view mode.
1:27:47And, uh, and I like it because it's, um, three days at a time is our, like to
1:27:53think about like my schedule. Apple does four days in the calendar widget above.
1:28:00I would prefer to choose like three days like just show me the three the next
1:28:05three days. That would be really nice if you could just like look at those two
1:28:08widgets and they were like in sync. Match India! Yes, yes! Federico what you have right
1:28:15now would be so upsetting to me. I know. If I had to look at this all the time.
1:28:22matching like that? I try not to care but again maybe someone else has made the calendar
1:28:31widget that I want. Basically what I want is the Apple widget because everything about
1:28:36it works for me except let me choose the number of days. Let me choose that. Three days. Today,
1:28:44tomorrow, day after tomorrow. That's it. That's all I want but they won't let me do it. So
1:28:51While we're on our good task thing, I'm finding out interesting things about you. Just like
1:28:58looking at this list. We've got like, "T's YouTube watch later system." So like these
1:29:05patented, trademarked, copyright, Federico Fattucci Twitter teases. They are pre-planned
1:29:11and scheduled and everything.
1:29:12Look at the one above it. "Start writing Switch Frame."
1:29:16That's a Nintendo Switch thing, surely.
1:29:18It's like, yeah, yeah.
1:29:20Apple frames or the Nintendo switch or something we are doing next week on Mac stories that we are going to announce on Friday
1:29:27Well, it's overdue by a few hours to get started announced at the announcement
1:29:31No, I mean the thing the thing I've already written. It's the announcement that's going out on Friday
1:29:36Let's go through some of the apps on the dock because you use some apps that people may not use you've got Safari app store
1:29:44spark files
1:29:47Yes
1:29:49Working copy. Yes, which is the text editor that you work use with git
1:29:54Yeah
1:29:57For the git commits and all that jargon. Yeah. Yeah good tasks. We just mentioned
1:30:02Yes, the next one is I forget the name of a base the fast entry for Apple reminders, right? Yes. Remind me fast
1:30:09Yes, that's the name. Oh look, it's called that
1:30:12It's called that but it's a funny. It's a funny lovely lovely
1:30:18Don't doubt that either. Name's still funny.
1:30:20Great person.
1:30:21Name is still funny.
1:30:22Great person.
1:30:23Name...
1:30:24Look, I love when apps own what they do.
1:30:29Like imagine if Timery was called Track Your Time.
1:30:34Better than the terrible toggle app lets you.
1:30:37That's the full name of Timery.
1:30:41It's a very...
1:30:42What is this?
1:30:43Remind me faster.
1:30:44I guess.
1:30:45Yeah, sure.
1:30:46What does it do?
1:30:47Timery, music, what's the one next to music?
1:30:52- Liar?
1:30:53- Marvis for the Scrobbles.
1:30:55- It does look like liar,
1:30:56that's what I thought it was at first.
1:30:58Messages, just smack dab in the middle.
1:31:02- That's such a weird place, I mean,
1:31:03I guess I understand 'cause it's next to Discord,
1:31:05but like, it's just weird to me to have messages
1:31:08like so far in, but it's just a personal preference thing.
1:31:11You know, I just always have it towards an end.
1:31:13- It's the little messaging corner.
1:31:15Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:31:16Yeah, then you have Discord, photos, reader with Apollo.
1:31:22What is this brain icon?
1:31:25Yes.
1:31:26This is some big brain stuff going on right here.
1:31:30So this is an icon.
1:31:32Big brain.
1:31:33So what if I told you that I made a shortcut?
1:31:36What, you?
1:31:37No.
1:31:38That lets you make icons based on SF symbols.
1:31:44Anyway, I get this is an icon that I made myself.
1:31:47Can I have that shortcut, please?
1:31:48Yes, please.
1:31:49Ah, now you want it, huh?
1:31:51Yes.
1:31:52Because now I know what it is.
1:31:53I couldn't have wanted it before I knew what it was.
1:31:55As soon as I found out what it was, I wanted it.
1:31:57Like, what's the issue here?
1:31:59Anyway, in this case, this icon is used for a shortcut that
1:32:05is called capture.
1:32:07When I tap it, it opens--
1:32:09so this is the obsidian corner.
1:32:10So this, I thought you were saying
1:32:12that this was the shortcut to create the icon.
1:32:14No, you made this.
1:32:16- No, no, no.
1:32:17The icon was made with that shortcut.
1:32:20- Right, I want that one.
1:32:21- And I used it, okay.
1:32:23I used it for an Obsidian, to launch Obsidian
1:32:28and trigger a command called On My Mind
1:32:31that lets me save a quick thought into my dashboard.
1:32:34- Right.
1:32:35- It's all it does.
1:32:36It launches Obsidian and it displays an input field
1:32:40to type some text.
1:32:41And when I hit Done, the text is prepended
1:32:46to a section of my dashboard,
1:32:48meaning it goes to the top of the list.
1:32:50So it's the latest thought that I had that is,
1:32:54well, on my mind, that's what the section is called.
1:32:57- This is like, I could imagine if Apple were writing this,
1:33:00it would be appended to top or appended to bottom, like.
1:33:03- Yes, appended to top, appended to top, yes.
1:33:08That's exactly what they would call it.
1:33:10Look, it's not prepended. It's appended at the top.
1:33:13It's like...
1:33:14Indent left and indent right.
1:33:16Indent left.
1:33:17Oh, God.
1:33:18Yeah, sure.
1:33:20Then there's Obsidian.
1:33:22And the next icon is also made with the shortcut
1:33:26that I mentioned before.
1:33:27And this is another Obsidian launcher
1:33:31that just opens my dashboard.
1:33:33It opens my dashboard note in preview mode
1:33:36So that I see all my fancy sections and rich links and all the things that I've saved.
1:33:42You're using my favorite Tweetbot icon.
1:33:45The New Year icon. So good.
1:33:47It's a very good one.
1:33:49And then shortcuts.
1:33:50And then what is in your app library there?
1:33:54I know you would ask about that.
1:33:56ExpressVPN is the top left one.
1:33:58ExpressVPN, I use it for HBO Max and Showtime
1:34:03because I want to watch Yellow Jackets and Showtime.
1:34:05So that's what I'm using it for.
1:34:07- Is that some kind of game?
1:34:08- Sofa, I think that's an alternative icon for Sofa,
1:34:11the media tracker.
1:34:13- Ah, okay.
1:34:14- The megaphone icon is an internal Mac Stories application
1:34:18called ReleaseBot, made by the one true son, Finn Voorhees,
1:34:23to keep track of updates from the App Store.
1:34:29So we track app updates using ReleaseBot,
1:34:33And yeah, I love it.
1:34:36It's a great app, but it's only for us.
1:34:38So what are you using craft for?
1:34:41It's a shared Max stories documentation and show notes with John.
1:34:45We don't use, we haven't used Google Docs in like a year at this point.
1:34:49I would love to use craft for our show, but it just won't work when we're
1:34:53recording. Like it's just, cause you know what we're like,
1:34:56we're moving stuff left, right and center all over the place.
1:35:00Look, I think you think craft is slower than it actually is.
1:35:07It's not as immediate as Google Docs.
1:35:09I think I know based on a test that I did like a year ago,
1:35:14unless it's gotten any better.
1:35:16I think it has gotten better, a lot better.
1:35:18I'm sure it's always getting better.
1:35:21But what I want is what I have, which is instant.
1:35:24And no one can do that, it seems like.
1:35:28Yeah, but Kraft is nicer than Google Docs, so...
1:35:31I mean, sometimes.
1:35:32I mean, it's also fine for App Stories,
1:35:34because we're not recording App Stories live.
1:35:37There isn't a lot of like,
1:35:39"Oh, we need to change this in real time.
1:35:41We can just stop and change it and start over."
1:35:44This is the iPad home screen
1:35:46of somebody who's hiding something.
1:35:48No, no, no, you cannot just use my...
1:35:52You cannot use my line on me.
1:35:54There's no apps except what's in the doc.
1:35:57- Exactly, that's what you can do on an iPad Pro
1:35:59on a real computer.
1:36:00You can put all your apps in the dock
1:36:02and summon the dock from anywhere.
1:36:04- I mean, I can put as many apps in the dock
1:36:06on my iPad Mini and then just can't launch them.
1:36:08I can't launch them anymore, but I can have them there.
1:36:11- They're tiny dots.
1:36:12(laughs)
1:36:13- I can just use the Apple Pencil to launch all my apps.
1:36:16- The thing that really,
1:36:18I see this in your iPhone screenshots too,
1:36:20is that you use light mode.
1:36:21- Oh yeah, I really don't like dark mode.
1:36:25I use dark mode on my phone all the time,
1:36:27and on my iPad I use it all the time,
1:36:29but on the Mac I don't like it.
1:36:31But you just seem like you'd be a dark mode person.
1:36:34- No, it's too low contrast for me.
1:36:37And dark mode, I've tried to use it,
1:36:41but I've done like, okay,
1:36:43I'm gonna go a full day with dark mode.
1:36:46And at the end of the day, I feel nervous about it.
1:36:49Like, my phone is not my phone anymore.
1:36:52I just cannot live with it.
1:36:54It's too low contrast and everything is dark and I feel like I need to squint all the time to read text.
1:37:01I really don't like it.
1:37:02I don't know how Myke does it, honestly.
1:37:04I'm 100% dark mode 100% of the time on 100% of my devices.
1:37:09Light mode is just too bright.
1:37:11I mean, are you still 100% brightness guy as well?
1:37:17No, no, I switched to auto brightness a few years ago and I caved.
1:37:21I feel like your eyes will ultimately thank you for that.
1:37:24Because I was thinking about this recently.
1:37:26Also for battery life.
1:37:27Yeah, that too.
1:37:28I was thinking about this recently with the iPad,
1:37:30like in it having like a million nits
1:37:32and was worrying about your eyes.
1:37:35So I'm pleased that you're not searing
1:37:37your retinas with this.
1:37:40Do you want to know where the wallpaper is from?
1:37:42I assume you made it from a shortcut.
1:37:44No, I wish that I could do that sort of gradient
1:37:48with the shortcut.
1:37:49There's a bunch of colors in here that I cannot do.
1:37:52I don't think you can do that kind of gradient
1:37:54with CSS in HTML.
1:37:55If you can, please let me know.
1:37:57And I can work on it.
1:38:00I stole this wallpaper.
1:38:01Where from?
1:38:03From Apple.
1:38:04Wait.
1:38:05It's like the big wallpaper heist.
1:38:09So I recently went to the Manage My Apple ID page.
1:38:17And I noticed that there was an animation that I really liked.
1:38:22It was like multiple colored dots moving around the Apple logo.
1:38:26And I thought, "Oh, those are some nice colors.
1:38:29I want to steal that graphic."
1:38:32And so I inspected the source, like a real hacker.
1:38:37And I realized that the dot animation
1:38:40was actually some fancy CSS effect
1:38:44that Apple is doing on top of an image.
1:38:48This is the image that they use.
1:38:50- Oh yeah, I see that.
1:38:53That's nice, that animation.
1:38:54This is an appleid.apple.com.
1:38:57- Yeah.
1:38:58- This looks like a design for WWDC
1:39:01that it didn't use or something.
1:39:03- It's very nice, right?
1:39:05Like surprisingly nice for the Apple ID webpage.
1:39:09I noticed those colors and I thought those rainbow colors,
1:39:12they're really nice.
1:39:13And so by looking at the source,
1:39:15I realized that this is actually some fancy animation
1:39:17that Apple is doing to impose this,
1:39:20sort of superimpose these dots on top of the image.
1:39:24The image is the wallpaper that I'm using.
1:39:27- This is replaced that page
1:39:29with the picture of the person, right?
1:39:32- Yeah, it's newly redone.
1:39:34- Yeah, it's way better looking than that annoying image,
1:39:37which I would feel like we're all very familiar with
1:39:40having to go to create like, what are they called? App specific passwords or something?
1:39:47Yes, that's exactly how it happened. I needed to create an app specific password for Fantastical
1:39:54and that's how I stole wallpaper from Apple.
1:39:57I hate that system with a fiery passion.
1:40:00Me too.
1:40:01Because one, they make me do it. Two, I have to periodically clean it out because, oh,
1:40:07used them all. Why is there a limit to this? Like, it's very annoying to me, that whole system.
1:40:12Man, I pulled this image, Federico, it's tiny! It's only like 756 pixels across.
1:40:19Yeah, you can zoom it. Oh no, you know what I did? I used the Pixelmator Pro.
1:40:24Yeah! Super resolution, baby! That's good!
1:40:30And then I pinch to zoom and it's fine, it doesn't bother me.
1:40:33- This is the iPad wallpaper of like a real power user
1:40:38right here.
1:40:38You inspected the source,
1:40:40you up-rezzed it with machine learning.
1:40:43- I'm a hacker.
1:40:44Yeah.
1:40:45- You really are.
1:40:46You're like a modern hacker who uses machine learning.
1:40:49- I looked at the DOM of the webpage
1:40:52and I saw that the JS was making a request to an image,
1:40:56all the fancy words.
1:40:58- And the DOM.
1:40:59and the DOM, and the XML, and all the things.
1:41:03-Loadset. -And now...
1:41:06-Loadset. -What is that?
1:41:07-Loadset. -Loads...
1:41:10Yeah, it loads --
1:41:11It lets me choose a fantastical calendar set.
1:41:16I have one called -- one that is just the default one,
1:41:20one for podcasts,
1:41:23and another for music and video game releases.
1:41:26-Very nice. -And the nice thing about it
1:41:28is that each set loads also a specific view.
1:41:34So like the main set loads a week view,
1:41:38but for example, music and video game releases,
1:41:40they switch to the month view
1:41:42so that I see multiple releases in the same month.
1:41:45- I'm obviously assuming Fantastic Hell
1:41:46does not have the widget you want either, right?
1:41:49- No. - No one's got it.
1:41:51- No, it does not. - No one's got it
1:41:53for the week, huh?
1:41:54- So yeah, this is a one screen.
1:41:58I never used the app library, by the way.
1:42:01Big Spotlight user.
1:42:02I told you how I disabled,
1:42:05oh no, I mentioned this on AppSource, I think.
1:42:07I disabled all the content sources in Spotlight,
1:42:09except for names of apps and shortcuts.
1:42:14- You don't want it to be surfacing stuff to you, basically.
1:42:17- Nope, I just want it to be a launcher.
1:42:20- I'm not sure if I've ever found that useful.
1:42:23- Me neither.
1:42:23- I feel like the only time I've ever wanted it
1:42:26give me stuff like it doesn't give me the thing I want you know I'm like oh
1:42:30where is this whatever I'll search for it maybe it will be shown to me from the
1:42:35files app no that's not gonna happen so that's the home screen see that wasn't
1:42:41too bad was it yeah it was fine less mean I liked it thank you I almost accept
1:42:50your wallpaper even at this point I think it's kind of cute and charming so
1:42:53You know, look, here's the thing about the... I've already defended myself in this one, so I'll defend myself in it again.
1:42:59It makes me happy.
1:43:00It's fine.
1:43:02You know?
1:43:03Like, I know it's weird...
1:43:04But I just want to remind you that you will change it for $5,000, so everybody's got a price, including you with your wallpaper.
1:43:11Look, at a certain point I had to say yes, right?
1:43:14Because otherwise people are going to think that there's something wrong with me.
1:43:18Mm-hmm.
1:43:19When realistically...
1:43:20You did it for the optics, right?
1:43:22I wouldn't do it. If you gave me five grand, I wouldn't do it.
1:43:25You know?
1:43:25I'll just say this at the end of the show.
1:43:27There's people here.
1:43:29They're...
1:43:30Why?
1:43:31You know, I'm not going to put a price on my happiness.
1:43:33That's why you should have answered in the first place.
1:43:35Yeah, but I didn't have a good answer for it then,
1:43:37because you blindsided me by starting to offer me cash.
1:43:40You know?
1:43:41Yeah, and you like cash.
1:43:43Well, not enough to change my wallpaper.
1:43:45It doesn't.
1:43:46Okay, how about ten?
1:43:47No, I just told you.
1:43:48It's not happening.
1:43:50It's not happening.
1:43:51(laughing)
1:43:53All right.
1:43:54- I think, well, except if it was 68.7 billion,
1:43:57because then I would just buy the Beverly Hills Hotel
1:44:00and then just go look at the wallpaper every single day,
1:44:03'cause I live there.
1:44:04- You would, in that case, you would wear the wallpaper.
1:44:07- You can, actually.
1:44:08That's the thing you can do.
1:44:10- You can make a suit out of that wallpaper.
1:44:12- They sell that.
1:44:13- Okay, so there you go.
1:44:14Why haven't you bought it?
1:44:15- 'Cause it's all really expensive, the merchandise.
1:44:18- But I'm giving you $5,000.
1:44:20I don't even know if that would pay for some of the stuff that they sell in that case.
1:44:23Oh wow, okay.
1:44:24It's pretty mad.
1:44:25Because the wallpaper design is like, it's just theirs.
1:44:28They're like very protective of it.
1:44:30Because people like me enjoy it.
1:44:32I think that does it this week y'all.
1:44:34Please let me go eat.
1:44:35I'm starving.
1:44:36No one stop, you know.
1:44:40Please release me.
1:44:41Please release me.
1:44:43If you want to find links to the stuff we spoke about, head on over to the website relay.fm/connected/381.
1:44:48There will be links to all of our iPad home screens there as well so you can see and follow
1:44:55along.
1:44:56You can find us all online.
1:44:58Myke is on Twitter as @imyke.
1:45:01He hosts a bunch of other shows here on Relay FM.
1:45:04Anything else you're up to this week, Myke?
1:45:05Oh, I'm on Friday.
1:45:07I'm streaming as I usually do at Myke.live and we're doing something called State of
1:45:13the caps which was named come up with by Matt who's one of the mods of the
1:45:18discord and I'm just gonna talk about some of my favorite keyboard products of
1:45:21the last year and I'm only doing it because the name of this stream is so
1:45:24good so we're doing that you can find Federico online of a tichi v it I CCI
1:45:31he's the editor-in-chief of max stories dotnet and I guess the writer of
1:45:35whatever switch frames is yes let's find out more later this week you can find me
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1:46:06goodbye. See you later. Bye y'all.