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0:00:00(upbeat music)

0:00:02- Hello and welcome to Connected episode 368.

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0:00:19My name is Stephen Hackett

0:00:20and I'm joined by my friend, Mr. Federico Vittucci.

0:00:24- Hello, hi, how are you?

0:00:26- I am good Federico, how are you?

0:00:28- I'm doing extremely well, thank you.

0:00:31- Good.

0:00:32We're also joined by Mr. Myke Hurley.

0:00:34- Say it.

0:00:35- Say it one last time.

0:00:38- Just give it to me.

0:00:39- His Royal Highness, the consolidated chairman.

0:00:44- Thank you so much.

0:00:45Thank you.

0:00:46Hi, hello everybody.

0:00:47- We'll see if you retain that today

0:00:50'cause we will be scoring our picks

0:00:52from Apple's Unleashed event,

0:00:54talking about the news, our impressions as we go.

0:00:57Very exciting stuff.

0:00:59But first we have some important follow-up

0:01:01about Australian radio.

0:01:03(Joe laughing)

0:01:05There we go.

0:01:05That's all we do on the show.

0:01:07A bunch of people sent us this

0:01:08as if we knew it was already a thing, I don't know.

0:01:12Triple J.

0:01:13I can't believe you didn't mention.

0:01:15I can't believe.

0:01:16Wow.

0:01:17I can't believe.

0:01:19Joe, why is no one talking about this?

0:01:22(Joe and Matt laughing)

0:01:25Triple J, which is the group that we have put in place for adequate succession planning for this show.

0:01:34Yes, Jason, John and James.

0:01:35Yep, Jason, John and James. Triple J is a radio show in Australia.

0:01:40Okay.

0:01:42It's an entire radio station.

0:01:44It's a division of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

0:01:49So does it mean that...

0:01:50Is ABC in America also the Australian Broadcasting Corporation?

0:01:54Yes.

0:01:55Wow. Yeah, they just expanded.

0:01:57Wow, those are shredders.

0:01:59Man, okay.

0:02:00And it's government funded.

0:02:03Because Australia did that.

0:02:05Let me get this right. Hold on.

0:02:06It's like PBS.

0:02:09Yes.

0:02:10Nice.

0:02:11Good job.

0:02:12I cannot believe that for government funded television,

0:02:16you didn't go to BBC.

0:02:17I just cannot believe that you went to PBS.

0:02:21I don't know what the BBC is doing now.

0:02:22I saw yelling about it in Discord and then I just...

0:02:24Oh BBC, I like, there's that guy that I like on BBC, the Graham Norton show.

0:02:31Oh okay, yeah, alright, yeah.

0:02:33It's funny, it's very funny.

0:02:34He's very funny, yeah.

0:02:35Graham Norton does our Eurovision commentary.

0:02:39Oh really?

0:02:40Yeah, and he's so, he is hilarious for Eurovision.

0:02:44I really recommend, by the way, people that watch Eurovision, if you're able to get the

0:02:48BBC feed, it's worth it.

0:02:51He is, he has a kind of a style which is, was also from the person he replaced, a guy

0:02:57called Terry Wogan.

0:02:58But basically he just makes fun of everything for the entire evening.

0:03:02It's incredible.

0:03:03It's so good.

0:03:04Nice.

0:03:05The Discord wants us to know that PBS isn't very much government funded.

0:03:08They have some government funding.

0:03:10Hence my point of the BBC.

0:03:11Oh no, that's too bad.

0:03:12Well actually, BBC is not government funded either.

0:03:14It's publicly funded.

0:03:16So we're into a whole world of mess.

0:03:19So it's only Australia.

0:03:20It's only Australia that has government funded radio.

0:03:23You know what now though?

0:03:24Now everyone from Australia that wrote to us about triple J is going to write and say,

0:03:28well actually, well actually they're not really government funded.

0:03:31You know, send a feedback email to triple J at Wikipedia.org.

0:03:39I'm sure somebody will respond.

0:03:43You all sit down for this.

0:03:45They've changed Safari again with just days to go.

0:03:48Impossible.

0:03:49Monterey ships and after they shipped the bad tab design in Big Sur, so people have been using it

0:03:57so they have

0:03:59put the favorites back in between the tabs and the

0:04:03Address bar the tabs look like old Safari 14

0:04:07They're still the compact mode and you can still set it to be the colored thing up at the top

0:04:12But now that's an advanced who knows

0:04:16Can you can you so if you now put the tabs back to look like old tabs, can you still get the color?

0:04:23No, it's only for compact mode

0:04:27It's only for compact mode and it's an advanced settings

0:04:31Like you you gotta go you gotta enable compact and then go into settings Safari

0:04:37advanced I so much wasted work like the

0:04:43- Just four months.

0:04:45Like I'm typically not one of these people

0:04:48that's like, I think you hit these people a lot.

0:04:50It was like, oh, I feel for the engineers, right?

0:04:53Like, 'cause it's like these people,

0:04:55they're doing their jobs

0:04:56and they're doing their work, et cetera.

0:04:57But like, I genuinely feel really sorry

0:05:00for the people that had to work on the Safari team

0:05:02over the last three to four months.

0:05:04Like this is, it's just been a,

0:05:07this is just a disaster.

0:05:08This is just a disaster.

0:05:10I hope this becomes one of the classes at Apple University,

0:05:15the thing that they have internally,

0:05:17like how not to do a redesign.

0:05:19- What we did to Safari.

0:05:21- Yeah.

0:05:22- The Safari 15 class.

0:05:23- It must be generally useful as a learning experience

0:05:27for how to not repeat this kind of process ever again.

0:05:31It's kind of funny that this always happens with Safari.

0:05:34So history always repeats itself with Safari

0:05:37and changes to the top bar.

0:05:39It's kind of incredible that it happened once again to Safari.

0:05:44But yeah, I mean, they undid essentially all of the things that were not working before.

0:05:52Or I mean, the most egregious things that were not working before.

0:05:56So the old tap bar design is back, the favorites have been moved back,

0:06:01and the iPhone was already fixed before.

0:06:03before. So basically Safari, all that changed is on the iPhone they added tab

0:06:12groups, they changed the way that the tabs look in like the all view mode and

0:06:18then they moved the address bar to the bottom. Yeah. And then on the Mac and iPad

0:06:23they just added tag groups. And a sidebar. And a sidebar. That's gonna be like the

0:06:28ultimate overall change. Yeah, and like the sidebar like still isn't perfect, still wasted,

0:06:34like it still feels like a waste of space, it's not customizable, you cannot put like, it's only

0:06:41basically a place for tab groups and it's still a little too challenging I think. Gruber wrote about

0:06:46this as well, to get to your reading list or to get to your bookmarks, reading list still feels

0:06:52like abandonware at this point, like no signs of life whatsoever over the past four years.

0:06:58Reading this is one of those features that I know people use, like you, but I still think nobody uses it.

0:07:03Yeah.

0:07:03Right? You know what I mean? Like, no, they make it so hard to use, surely no one's using it.

0:07:08I know. But really, there's plenty to like at this point in the new Safari. Like, you have the tab groups,

0:07:15you have the customizable start page, extensions, obviously, you have the new design on the iPhone,

0:07:21like there's plenty to like and this is all like this change in 15.1 and the public version of Mount Airy is

0:07:28exactly what we wanted which is the old Safari design with the new features. So

0:07:34Yeah, I'll take it. One thing that I just can't I just can't reconcile is

0:07:41this decision coming after they put it out to Big Sur. Like did they have really bad public feedback too?

0:07:48Did they just not know? Like, I agree with you. It's like, what? They were going to change it again?

0:07:54I don't know why they did that. Why did it ever go to Big Sur? I don't understand.

0:08:00That is like...

0:08:02Ultimately, my question is

0:08:04Why did you have to wait for public feedback?

0:08:08Like, can't you just sit down, look at it and say, "Well, yeah, this is bad."

0:08:15Don't you see it yourself? Like, and I guess we'll never know the answers.

0:08:19But they got all the public feedback, right? Like, from the betas, they got it. Like, they knew it.

0:08:24Right, but...

0:08:25Right? There's surely no more feedback that they had to get that they hadn't already gotten.

0:08:30I guess the bigger question is

0:08:31Why and how did this ship in the first place?

0:08:35That's my, like, my concern here. It's like, who forced who

0:08:41Internally to make this design happen only to be shown months later that it was not actually working for anyone

0:08:48But I guess we'll never know the answer to that

0:08:51Yeah, I still think that it might it might not be as simple as that either like you can get used to things quite quickly

0:08:58Like I got used to I mean, I know a lot of people really don't like a

0:09:01Lot of the stuff in so far. I got very used to it very fast

0:09:05I think it can creep up on you. I I think that there is a way to look at it

0:09:10which is like, you know, Craig Federighi walked into a room

0:09:13and he drew on a whiteboard what he wanted

0:09:15and then made everyone do it, right?

0:09:17Which I think is a lot of what people are imagining.

0:09:20I'm not saying it did or it didn't happen,

0:09:21but I think that's one way that people imagine

0:09:23that this has occurred, right?

0:09:25But then the other thing is like a bunch of designers

0:09:27had a bunch of ideas

0:09:29and they started implementing them slowly

0:09:31and then it ended up where we are.

0:09:33And it was kind of like, I don't really like this analogy,

0:09:36but it's like a boiling the frog kind of analogy.

0:09:38They just kind of like kept,

0:09:40like they decided they were gonna change Safari.

0:09:42So people just started adding a bunch of things.

0:09:44And then by the time it got to the release,

0:09:46they kind of hadn't, they were too close to it.

0:09:50And maybe did too much at one time

0:09:53where they would have maybe done these things

0:09:55a little bit more slowly,

0:09:57everybody may have gotten on board of it.

0:09:59- I have a difficult question to ask.

0:10:01Do you guys feel like remote work

0:10:06could have been an issue here?

0:10:08Why would it make a difference?

0:10:09I understand what you're asking, because there was a change, but I don't know what I would say.

0:10:14My counter to that would be, is this the only time Apple's ever had a questionable UI design?

0:10:21Well, not this bad, you know, like, and so universally panned.

0:10:28I think it's a perfect storm thing.

0:10:31Like probably bad UI design in the most important application.

0:10:36I think this would have been way more excused

0:10:39if it was done to files or like, you know,

0:10:43like it was just the wrong app to change so much on.

0:10:47I really do think it like that all of this stuff

0:10:50could have been added, but it needed to be done

0:10:52over multiple years.

0:10:54I think it was too much at one time.

0:10:57I know what you mean though, like it's a change, right?

0:11:01Could it have been-- - Like you're trying

0:11:04find a correlation essentially between like, why did this happen? Oh, is it because of

0:11:09this thing? But you know, it could potentially not be related at all. I had no idea.

0:11:14I really think it is like six things, right? Like six more things and they all came together

0:11:19and it resulted in something that a lot of people didn't like. And a lot of people really

0:11:24didn't like. I do think there's a possibility that the people with an Apple who want people

0:11:30to be back in the office may use this as fodder for their point of view.

0:11:35Yeah, if we were all here, maybe we want to screw Safari up so bad. I don't know.

0:11:39No, I can see that. Honestly, like, yeah, I can see that. Anyway, none of this matters,

0:11:47because Safari is old again. So yeah, go use tabs. They're pretty now.

0:11:53Federico, you wanted to talk about the addition of Pilates in Fitness Plus.

0:11:59Yes, yes, I do. So as I mentioned before on the show, I've been slowly but surely doing

0:12:06Pilates with Silvia, who is a licensed instructor, I guess that's the proper way to describe her,

0:12:13for the past year. When I saw that Apple said we're adding Pilates to Fitness+, I was really

0:12:19interested to see how that looks like. And I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed

0:12:25by the classes and the videos that I've seen so far.

0:12:29I started up a trial just to see what it was like.

0:12:34And to sum it up, because I don't want to get into the technicalities of everything,

0:12:39but to sum it up,

0:12:41"Pelates" is all about, sort of, first of all, the very basics,

0:12:46like having a sense of your body and controlling your breath.

0:12:53And there's all these very basic steps that you have to do in also what they call pre-Pilates classes,

0:13:01just to make sure that you have this foundation, right?

0:13:04Before you start doing more basic, intermediate, and then advanced exercises.

0:13:10So what you're saying is you need classes for the class.

0:13:13Yeah, no, it's actually called pre-Pilates, because you have to be prepared to what you're about to do.

0:13:19Do you have post-Pilates classes?

0:13:21Oh, you have cooldown, I think. That's what it's called.

0:13:25But basically, it's things like, OK, learn how to breathe properly, right?

0:13:31And learn how to hold your stomach or how to hold your navel, for example.

0:13:35How to, you know, not strain your neck, like all these very basic things.

0:13:41And when I when I opened Fitness Plus, none of these things were covered.

0:13:47you go back through the list of videos and it just starts in the middle of a class and an exercise.

0:13:54Like, it doesn't... There's nothing that tells you "Start here" and if you try the first video,

0:14:01the first class, it doesn't tell you anything about, like, "Here's how to breathe" according to,

0:14:08like... "Pelates" is an actual discipline, like, it's actually documented. Like, the guy,

0:14:14the guy, the Polaris guy's name was...

0:14:16Mr. Pilati.

0:14:17Mr. Pilati.

0:14:18Like, the guy actually wrote a book on...

0:14:21Mr. Pilati is my father.

0:14:24I'm Pilati's junior.

0:14:26You joke about that, you joke about that, but there's actually like a whole succession

0:14:30line to Joseph Pilatis, I believe it was his name.

0:14:34Oh, it is actually Mr. Pilati!

0:14:36Yes.

0:14:37Well, there we go.

0:14:39So there's actually like, there's an actual book and it's actually documented, like here's

0:14:44the different ways you're supposed to do this thing. And the Fitness Plus version, it completely

0:14:52ignores all of that. There's no class that tells you, "Okay, you start here, and before

0:14:59you get started, here's how you breathe, here's how you order your stomach, here's how you

0:15:04sit down, here's how you do these things." Because if you don't follow those things,

0:15:08you're just going to hurt yourself. Like, if you start from zero...

0:15:10Because they have these intro things. Do they not have an intro to Pilates?

0:15:16I didn't see it. I didn't see it. And if you don't have those basics covered and you go

0:15:24from zero to, you know, doing this moderate like exercises and you don't know what you're

0:15:32doing, you're going to hurt yourself. Because I can tell you that a lot of people think

0:15:35that Pilates is like this relaxing thing,

0:15:37like very chill yoga.

0:15:39It's not, it really isn't.

0:15:41And you can hurt yourself in a bunch of different ways

0:15:45if you don't pay attention.

0:15:47And instead, the feel that I got

0:15:49from the Fitness Plus videos was

0:15:52they're trying to sell it to you

0:15:54like any other kind of workout with the music,

0:15:57like with the R&B and the hip hop music in the background.

0:16:02Like I can tell you from experience

0:16:03from other websites that I've tried,

0:16:05like actual like Polaris focused websites that have video courses and,

0:16:10you know, Sylvia pays a subscription to one of them. Um,

0:16:12this feels like a version of yoga mixed with like

0:16:19listening to music. It doesn't feel like Polaris at all. So,

0:16:23um, it's like yoga plus, yeah,

0:16:26it kind of felt like a lot of people think that that's what Polaris is though.

0:16:30Exactly. And that was, that's ultimately like,

0:16:32My conclusion is this feels like an Apple version of what people think Pilates is, by what they've heard about it.

0:16:42It's not like an actual... I say official in the context of following the guidelines of, you know, Mr. Pilates.

0:16:51So what you're saying is Joseph Hubertus Pilates would be spinning in his grave if he found out what Apple was doing with Pilates.

0:16:59Yeah, and he was very flexible, so I have to assume it's a very small grave. He's all curled up.

0:17:03Oh, God. I wish I wouldn't have said that now.

0:17:07Probably.

0:17:08He's stretching in his grave.

0:17:09He's stretching, yeah.

0:17:11I mean, you look at photos of the guy, though. Like, he was in his 80s, and he was ripped.

0:17:15So, I mean, yeah. Mr. Pelares, you know, didn't want to mess with him.

0:17:20Oh, my God. Look at this guy.

0:17:23I know, right?

0:17:24He's serious.

0:17:25Yeah.

0:17:26He's doing a lot of hanging around here in these Google searches.

0:17:30Yeah. Very flexible. Very flexible. We all learned something today.

0:17:35Are we done with all that? Are we done with the history lesson?

0:17:38I think so. That's good. That's like a little ingenious right in the middle of connected.

0:17:42Turns out. Turns out. Well, it is time for the Ricky's. There'll be a link in the show

0:17:51where you can see the winners and losers.

0:17:54That link obviously contains spoilers,

0:17:56so I'm warning you now instead of at the end of the show,

0:17:58like we did last week.

0:18:00I'm improving as a host is what we're doing.

0:18:03Good work, A*.

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0:20:04- All right.

0:20:05- Doing this again.

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0:20:132021. Results can be seen at rickys.co and rickys.net. There are two types of rickys,

0:20:21annual rickys and keynote rickys. The winner of the annual rickys is named the annual chairman

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0:21:16If your risky pick is wrong, you lose a point, and of course the two other hosts must agree that your pick is risky.

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0:21:39is the current annual chairman and the current keynote chairman. That second

0:21:43Twitter handle is on the line. All right. Can we sit down again? Yes, sit down. Okay. Now before we get to the picks and the

0:21:52scoring the two of you each have a box that has been shipped to you. Finally! Oh

0:21:57Oh, okay. And this, what is in this box was...

0:22:02Hang on, hang on, I've had my box... Where is it? Is it on here anywhere?

0:22:06Okay. Since July.

0:22:09Federico's got eaten by the Italian post office.

0:22:13Look, I was at the beach, okay? So, you know.

0:22:15And so we had to then ship him a second box,

0:22:21three-day shipping from the US to Italy to get it here in time for this. That was

0:22:25was very expensive. Is it a brand new box? Yes, because the original never showed up

0:22:30again. It's gone. Oh, so someone has one of these. There's one more of whatever this is

0:22:36in the world. Yeah, the unknown Ricky is out there. What's inside of this thing? Well,

0:22:42we're gonna get to that in a second. I will say it's very expensive to ship something,

0:22:46so thank you for becoming connected members to help us pay for that. It was almost $200

0:22:54ship that to Federico in four days from the US to Italy. So this is what's in

0:23:00this box was created by our friend and wonderful moderator of the relay FM

0:23:06member discord Matt van Ormer von van go the van the first time you said that

0:23:13allowed it is yeah I would say that's that's his name on the box then I have

0:23:19an invoice yeah my Matt yes thank you Matt the two of you now may proceed

0:23:26opening the box if you can make it a SMR e you know stick your mics down there I

0:23:30have a knife here with me okay yes good okay I'm opening the box get up

0:23:44attention so I don't cut myself well there's a lot of packaging Matt says

0:23:47van like the car that's good vanormer don't spoil it for me Myke oh my god oh

0:23:56my god what is this it has a cable let me know when you're both open and I will

0:24:02explain it okay I'm opening the box okay there's a bunch of plastic wrap and some

0:24:08right I've got some a rubber band and a bunch of acrylic sheets what what is

0:24:15this? Matt? This is, I've got a card it says MVO woodworks.com. Woodworks? Yes. Matt made the

0:24:24tray that my PC was on. Matt also made some custom key cap pullers for me. Why is there a cable? You're

0:24:33gonna need to plug that in. It is weird to see something made of wood and then a cable coming

0:24:38out the back of it. Is this a bomb? No. Are we allowed to say that on the show? Sure. There's a rubber band.

0:24:44yeah why why are there pieces of transparent plastic have you gotten to

0:24:50the wood piece yet I mean I've got it out it's all out like okay it's out so

0:24:56this is the official trophy for the Ricky's interesting and how it works

0:25:02hold on a second hold on a second hold on a second because I feel like I should

0:25:06set a little bit of a stage here so the reason that the Twitter accounts exist

0:25:11is because in theory we should have a trophy.

0:25:16- Yes.

0:25:17- But we wouldn't have a trophy because we knew

0:25:20that the three of us would not ship them around the world

0:25:23because mostly of Federico as being an issue,

0:25:26as has been proven by the fact that I had my one of these

0:25:30for three months now.

0:25:32- Yeah, I've had mine a long time too.

0:25:34- Okay.

0:25:35- That came up I think at episode 277, according,

0:25:39Matt is in the Discord.

0:25:42So what this is, this is a reconfigurable trophy.

0:25:47- Oh my God, I see how it works.

0:25:49- So one of the, and Myke,

0:25:52maybe you can take a picture of yours

0:25:53and we'll put it in the show notes, people can see this.

0:25:55One of the acrylic pieces,

0:25:56and they're all wrapped in plastics,

0:25:58you need to take the plastic sheeting off of them,

0:26:00and I would recommend finding a way to store them.

0:26:02I'm storing them in like a Ziploc bag.

0:26:04So on the trophy is the globe from our show art,

0:26:08and it says the Ricky's scorekeeping across borders.

0:26:11One acrylic piece has the lines around the globe.

0:26:16And then the other acrylic pieces have small

0:26:20and big circles of all of our locations.

0:26:23And so for instance, right now, Myke holds both titles.

0:26:28So we would have the lines, the small London circle

0:26:33and the big London circle.

0:26:35So it's highlighting his two awards.

0:26:37- Oh.

0:26:38- But say that I win today, then we swap out our pieces.

0:26:42So London is circled and Memphis is circled.

0:26:45So we all have a trophy and our trophies are all in sync

0:26:48and we can all see when we look at them

0:26:50who the current winners are.

0:26:52- This is incredible.

0:26:54- So if you plug that into USB,

0:26:56there's a little switch on the side

0:26:57and it's lit from the bottom.

0:26:59- Okay, I have a lot of sheets, right?

0:27:01So I guess I have enough sheets.

0:27:03- You kind of got to sort through them

0:27:04and figure out which one goes where.

0:27:06So there's which one's the big circle

0:27:08and which one's the little circle, does it matter?

0:27:11- I don't think that really matters in my mind.

0:27:13- I feel like annual should be the big circle.

0:27:15- Okay, and event being the little circle?

0:27:17- Annual should be the big one?

0:27:18- Yeah.

0:27:19- Remember, we're gonna have to adjust the rules

0:27:21to account for all of this.

0:27:23- Yeah, 'cause I feel like now at the end of every Ricky's,

0:27:27we need to synchronize trophies.

0:27:29- No, I'm always gonna keep it set to mine.

0:27:31- No, no, no, no, no, it has to be in sync.

0:27:35because this is the answer to not having a trophy.

0:27:38- You can only have it to you when you've earned that.

0:27:41- Oh my God. - That's right.

0:27:42- And the way that you've earned that is by winning.

0:27:45- Yeah, don't worry about that.

0:27:46- So I have currently the big one for the annual winner,

0:27:50that's Myke, and the little one for the keynote winner,

0:27:53that's also Myke.

0:27:53- I'm struggling to work out my--

0:27:55- Yeah, it takes a little while to kind of figure out

0:27:57which ones they are, but you can get it.

0:27:58- Okay, so I've got it now, I've got it set up with me.

0:28:01But there's a place on the back to keep them.

0:28:04- Yes.

0:28:05- Oh nice, okay.

0:28:06- It's a little storage compartment.

0:28:07- Yeah, I had them in a plastic baggie

0:28:09because I've had mine for a while

0:28:10and then I built an office and stuff,

0:28:12so I didn't wanna damage them.

0:28:13- So I have mine set up correctly now.

0:28:16So here's a thought, does the rings around the earth,

0:28:19does that go in front or behind of the?

0:28:23- I think it goes the closest to the wood.

0:28:27I think it looks best that way.

0:28:29- You're gonna have some pictures of something

0:28:31in the show notes for this, right?

0:28:32- I asked you to, but sure.

0:28:34Well, I took a picture of mine, but that's it.

0:28:38That's all I've done.

0:28:39I took a picture and I put it in the Discord.

0:28:41- What's the current, oh, my case, right.

0:28:44So where's the big annual one for London?

0:28:48- Pretty good, right?

0:28:49- Not in Russia. - This is incredible.

0:28:51But wait, we haven't addressed something.

0:28:54It has a cable.

0:28:55- Yeah, you plug it in and it's lit.

0:28:57There's a switch on the side.

0:28:59- What? - Yep.

0:29:00Go plug it in.

0:29:01- You haven't lit it up yet?

0:29:02- You haven't given this information.

0:29:04- It's amazing.

0:29:06- I haven't lit up.

0:29:07Whoa, look at that.

0:29:09Oh my God.

0:29:11All right, I'm gonna take a picture of this.

0:29:13Obviously the picture in the show notes will include me.

0:29:16- Yeah, Matt put a picture of three of them

0:29:18with good detail, that'll be in the show notes.

0:29:20- Oh, there you go.

0:29:21So there you go, we got it now.

0:29:22So you don't need mine, but I am the current winner

0:29:25currently, which is good.

0:29:26I'm pleased that we got to open this first

0:29:28so I get to look at myself.

0:29:29So I guess the point now is, right,

0:29:32- This is genuinely an incredible idea.

0:29:34- It's amazing.

0:29:35- Who had this idea?

0:29:37- Well, there is a blog post in the show notes

0:29:40that Matt has written.

0:29:41- Oh my word, well how did that come around?

0:29:43- Because Matt and I have been working on this

0:29:44for like a year.

0:29:45(laughing)

0:29:46- Wow.

0:29:47- So Matt has written a blog post.

0:29:49Matt, maybe he can put that in the Discord

0:29:52so people can see that.

0:29:53- Oh my God, I'm looking at my beautiful trophy right now.

0:29:56- I, I-- - This is so pretty.

0:29:58in May, sent him a message that said,

0:30:01"Trophies in all capital letters."

0:30:03And he said, "I can make it happen."

0:30:05And then we were, he did all the design

0:30:07and I got pictures of it and it's amazing.

0:30:11This is truly, I mean, it's truly astonishing

0:30:15how great this looks.

0:30:15- This is really just solving the problem

0:30:18of the three of us, right?

0:30:19We're obviously gonna keep the Twitter accounts

0:30:21because, you know, it's public record.

0:30:24- Yeah, the trophies are for us.

0:30:25- But I love this idea

0:30:26that we now have synchronized trophies.

0:30:29So should we make a proposed rule amendment,

0:30:31which we'll put into place next time?

0:30:33- Yes.

0:30:34- So the proposed rule amendment, I guess would be

0:30:38after the scoring of the Ricky's,

0:30:44the three hosts must synchronize trophies

0:30:48and confirm via with photographic evidence.

0:30:55After scoring is complete.

0:31:00After scoring is complete, each host must...

0:31:04Must update their official Ricky's trophy to reflect the new winner.

0:31:12The large...

0:31:15This is so cool. I adore this.

0:31:20The blog post on Matt's website is just...

0:31:24I have no words, Matt. Thank you so much.

0:31:26This is...

0:31:28Like, the thought and care that went into all of this

0:31:31is just incredible for a stupid thing

0:31:33that we do on a podcast.

0:31:35Like, this is fantastic.

0:31:37- Oh, something that I hadn't noticed,

0:31:40'cause I kind of have mine sitting below me a little bit,

0:31:42when you are at EyeLine with it,

0:31:45it just illuminates the rings from the acrylic.

0:31:49Like when you're looking slightly from above,

0:31:52you don't get that effect as much, but.

0:31:54- Yeah, I think it's best like on a shelf.

0:31:56- Yeah, I'm gonna put it on my Cal-ax,

0:31:58that's where it's going.

0:32:00- That's a shame.

0:32:01(laughing)

0:32:03Okay, so.

0:32:04- Surely it's better than that.

0:32:06- The large location marker.

0:32:09- No, I think I'm actually gonna keep this on my desk

0:32:12along with the, my Ricky's stuff toy.

0:32:14- Yeah, I'm keeping it on my desk, I think.

0:32:16- Yeah, I gotta find a good place for this.

0:32:17- I still don't have that one.

0:32:18I have no idea what happened to mine.

0:32:21- Did you not get the stuffed toy?

0:32:22- No. - Oh man, that's lost.

0:32:24Matt, there is a connected fan in the Italian postal service

0:32:29and they're just stealing everything Ricky's related.

0:32:32- That seems possible.

0:32:34- There's a mole in the system there.

0:32:36Man, this is just incredible.

0:32:39This is so good.

0:32:42- After scoring is complete,

0:32:43each host must update their official Ricky's trophy

0:32:45to reflect the new winner.

0:32:47The large location marker is for the annual chairman.

0:32:49Well, the smaller location marker is for the keynote chairman.

0:32:53Trophies.

0:32:54- Wait, hold on, where is this?

0:32:55Where is this?

0:32:56- I put it down.

0:32:57- It's at the bottom of the document.

0:32:59- Should remain in sync at all times.

0:33:04- I'm gonna need to find someone special to put this.

0:33:06- I have so many things on my desk now

0:33:08that are just from the show.

0:33:09That's kind of ridiculous.

0:33:11- Wait, Ricky's trophy.

0:33:14I'm going over this amendment.

0:33:17Ricky's trophy should have in parentheses the model name of the Ricky's trophy.

0:33:22In this case would be "Late 2021".

0:33:25That seems fair.

0:33:26In case it's updated at some point.

0:33:28I could imagine...

0:33:29Cut out of aluminum.

0:33:30Yeah, oh...

0:33:32I'm just kidding. I wanted to say the same forever.

0:33:35Okay, read this again, Steven, please.

0:33:37After scoring is complete, each host must update their official Ricky's trophy,

0:33:41"Late 2021", to reflect the new winner.

0:33:44The large location marker is for the annual chairman,

0:33:47while the smaller location marker is for the keynote chairman.

0:33:50Trophies should remain in sync at all times.

0:33:52- Okay.

0:33:55- Feels pretty good.

0:33:55We can always tweak it if we need to.

0:33:58- Oh, I mean, we love an amendment.

0:33:59- Yeah.

0:34:00Now, you didn't mention the photographic evidence.

0:34:04- That we have to send pictures.

0:34:06- Trophies should remain in sync at all times

0:34:09with photographic evidence.

0:34:13- Provided.

0:34:14provided on demand.

0:34:17- I was just gonna say, like an immediate throw down.

0:34:21Any point.

0:34:24- I could text you in four weeks.

0:34:26- Send me an image!

0:34:28- Matt, seriously, from the bottom of our hearts, thank you.

0:34:35This is incredible. - Yeah, this is incredible,

0:34:36man, I adore this.

0:34:38Thank you, Matt.

0:34:39This is, oh my God, this is so good.

0:34:40- There are pictures and Matt's blog post

0:34:43in the show notes.

0:34:46Definitely go check out the blog post.

0:34:47It's really cool.

0:34:49Matt makes some amazing things.

0:34:51Go buy a cutting board from him.

0:34:53- Or a keycap puller.

0:34:53They're really good. - Or a keycap puller.

0:34:55Yeah, he has like the renders of them

0:34:57as he was figuring out how to put it together.

0:34:59It's all so good.

0:35:00Laser cutting, I mean, it's amazing.

0:35:04- So good.

0:35:04(sighs)

0:35:05- I'm glad y'all like 'em.

0:35:06It was well worth the wait.

0:35:08- Oh, definitely.

0:35:08I love it.

0:35:09I adore it.

0:35:10- Okay.

0:35:11Now they're saying there should be a webcam

0:35:13on his trophy. Now that's an interesting proposition. I don't know how I feel

0:35:18about that. I think it's a particularly difficult for Federico considering his

0:35:21recording places in his bedroom. Yeah that could be bad. You need a studio Federico,

0:35:26why don't you have a studio like us? Yeah, why don't I have a bigger apartment?

0:35:30That's the bigger problem. I guess so. Surely the studio should come first

0:35:36so you can put a webcam on your trophy. I am convinced that Silvia will understand.

0:35:41Yeah, she'll be fine.

0:35:43Priorities, you know?

0:35:44Yeah, I'm sure.

0:35:45Let's take a break.

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0:37:38Round the first.

0:37:40Myke, you got to go first as the reigning champion.

0:37:44What did you pick?

0:37:46Apple unveils a new MacBook Pro.

0:37:51Should we just go through the first round and talk about the MacBook Pro?

0:37:54Yeah.

0:37:55Yeah.

0:37:56Yeah.

0:37:57said at least one new MacBook Pro model has an upgraded webcam with a higher resolution.

0:38:05And I said at least one new Mac model announced ships in November. Nope, they're coming out

0:38:12next week. Yeah, I mean they do ship in November, but they're also shipping in October. So that

0:38:18didn't work for you. So that's one point for each of you. No points for me. Mm hmm. Just

0:38:24a bummer. Great for Steven as we finish the first round. Not off to a great start, Steven.

0:38:28Really strong, strong work there by the Mac guy. It's not going to get any better for me.

0:38:32New MacBook Pros, can I just say? Oh, man. It's like they did everything everybody wanted.

0:38:41They listened. It's got ports. It's super powerful. The screen seems ridiculous. Like,

0:38:48I think these machines are wins all the way around. I honestly do.

0:38:52Here's a, I have a question.

0:38:55Federico, are you going to get one?

0:38:57- Yeah, I am.

0:38:58- Did you get one?

0:39:00- Not yet, but I will.

0:39:01- Okay, you are going to order it?

0:39:02Okay.

0:39:03Cause I know that we'd mentioned this a long time ago,

0:39:06I think that you were considering just like,

0:39:09you were waiting for whatever this was going to be.

0:39:11And then it would just be the like,

0:39:13you're recording computer no matter where you are.

0:39:15- Yes, yes.

0:39:16The plan is to sell the Mac mini that I currently have,

0:39:20which is a 2018 one.

0:39:22I'm gonna sell the Mac Mini, sell the display, I think.

0:39:27I'm also tired of this ultra fine 4K display.

0:39:30It's ugly and chunky and--

0:39:31- So you would just use the MacBook's display?

0:39:34- Until I find, if I get tired of waiting for Apple

0:39:38to make one, I may get a new one,

0:39:41which is more elegant and bigger, maybe 5K,

0:39:44maybe like one of those ultra wide displays.

0:39:47- There's a 6K monitor that you might like.

0:39:50I got a 6k one. It's called the Pro Display XDR? That's the name of it. Yeah, I'm not

0:39:55slightly out of my budget

0:39:57unfortunately. You don't forget the stand

0:39:59Yeah, I think I'm selling the Mac Mini and I'm getting a 14 inch Mac Pro

0:40:06And I'm gonna use that as my recording computer and maybe who knows maybe maybe I will like working on a MacBook again

0:40:12You know for general things I doubt it, but still I'm gonna get one

0:40:17Stephen I assume you've already ordered one. Mm-hmm. I see me've already ordered one and then cancelled it and ordered another one. No

0:40:23No

0:40:26Would you say that?

0:40:28What in my password suggested never might what makes you think?

0:40:32The kind of person who does that flip-flop. I did order one. I have a 14 inch

0:40:40with the end with a 10 core m1 Pro with the 16 core GPU

0:40:4632 gigabytes of unified memory and 2 terabyte SSD in space gray and it is coming on launch day

0:40:51So I'll have it for next week's show

0:40:53You actually have a date

0:40:56Yeah, I got it. I was in there early and it is coming on launch day because I have a date range. Yeah

0:41:02No, I have October

0:41:0426th

0:41:06Lucky mines 29 to November 2nd. Mm-hmm right now my polishing cloth is gonna arrive on the 27th

0:41:14So I have that going for me.

0:41:16Yeah, I got one of those two.

0:41:18I'm gonna work on a... I'm gonna do a review.

0:41:20I've already had one because I've got a Pro Display XDR.

0:41:23Mmm.

0:41:24Oh, so you're one of the hipster...

0:41:26You wanna hear it?

0:41:27Polishing cloth people.

0:41:28I'm going to rub it on the microphone.

0:41:30Man, it sounds so polished now.

0:41:35Wow, it sounds...

0:41:36I can't wait for Steven to come back.

0:41:38Clearly his voice is gonna be better. Yeah.

0:41:40Try and talk.

0:41:41Hello.

0:41:42Wow!

0:41:43Wow! It finally cleaned him up.

0:41:45It's like they removed all the dust from your voice.

0:41:49And now you sound so much better.

0:41:51My voice is a little dusty.

0:41:53I like to think of it that way.

0:41:55Yeah, sure.

0:41:56So which models did y'all get?

0:41:59Oh, I got exactly the same as Steven,

0:42:01except I got 64 gigabytes of unified memory.

0:42:0464?

0:42:05Wait, so that means you got the M1 Max.

0:42:08I got the Pro.

0:42:09Oh, sorry, yeah, no, I got the M1 Max.

0:42:11I got an M1 Max.

0:42:13Wow, big big big laptop energy over there. Big laptop energy. I got the

0:42:17Apple M1 Max. I got the 10 core CPU 24 core GPU version. I got a 96 watt power

0:42:24adapter because you need that apparently. 2 terabyte SSD 64 gigabyte unified

0:42:29memory. Comes with an accessory kit. I don't know what that means, but yeah

0:42:33that's what I got. I went big. It's an expensive like it's expensive computer.

0:42:39I'm actually going to sell my iMac Pro.

0:42:42- Whoa.

0:42:44- Yep.

0:42:45- What?

0:42:46- Yep.

0:42:47I don't need it anymore.

0:42:48- What are you gonna,

0:42:49so you're just gonna work on a laptop?

0:42:51- No, no, no, no, no.

0:42:52See, this is the thing.

0:42:53I have my iMac, my M1 iMac in front of me.

0:42:57My Intel iMac Pro, it just sits at home.

0:42:59It is my, uh-oh, in case there's COVID,

0:43:03like lockdown computer.

0:43:05But I don't need that anymore.

0:43:08'cause I could just use my laptop

0:43:10and especially this laptop,

0:43:12which is gonna blow that thing into pieces of dust.

0:43:16So I never use that machine anymore.

0:43:19I do all my recording in the studio

0:43:21and if I, for whatever reason, couldn't,

0:43:23my laptop would more than be able to handle

0:43:26anything I needed it for.

0:43:27So I'm gonna be, like to help fund this machine,

0:43:31I'm gonna be selling my iMac Pro and my MacBook Pro

0:43:35because I don't need that either.

0:43:36- Yeah, I'll be still on my M1 MacBook Pro.

0:43:39- Yeah.

0:43:40And then I'll have this boiler computer.

0:43:43I don't really know where it's gonna sit for me.

0:43:46Like I know, like my MacBook Pro right now,

0:43:49it's like the machine I do basically all of my work on

0:43:51except recording and editing.

0:43:53But I feel like the speed of this MacBook Pro,

0:43:57it might be even nicer to edit on.

0:43:58I don't know, we'll see.

0:44:00The iMac will probably still do the job just fine.

0:44:04But yeah, I'm super excited for this computer.

0:44:06My only thing that I'm like bummed out about

0:44:10is the screen portion,

0:44:13because the screen of the laptop is incredible, right?

0:44:18It's 120 frames per second mini LED screen.

0:44:23I dock my laptop to an LG monitor.

0:44:28And so I'm not really sure what to do about that.

0:44:32I don't really--

0:44:34- Have you heard the good news of the Bro Display XDR?

0:44:36But that won't even get me, that's not mini LED

0:44:39or 120 frames per second, right?

0:44:41So like, even, you know, even if I was to do that,

0:44:44it's not actually gonna give me a better use of it at all.

0:44:49So I don't really know what to do

0:44:51because I know that like a 14 inch screen

0:44:55is not what I want to be working on all day.

0:44:58Like I like having a 30 inch monitor

0:45:00or 28 inch monitor, whatever it is I have.

0:45:03So I have all of that screen real estate,

0:45:04Like a 14 inch is going to be too small.

0:45:07Like any laptop would be smaller than I would want

0:45:11for when I'm sitting at my desk, right?

0:45:13So like, I'm not really sure about that part.

0:45:16Like I don't really know how that's gonna manifest itself.

0:45:19I know it's gonna be amazing whenever I use it

0:45:21in the laptop configuration

0:45:23and maybe I'll find ways to do that more,

0:45:25but I really care about my ergonomics

0:45:28and I wanna be sitting at a table with a good chair

0:45:32and sitting just right with the keyboard in front of me

0:45:34and monitor like my eye level and all that kind of stuff.

0:45:38So I'm not really sure.

0:45:40'Cause even like, you know,

0:45:41Kimball is saying a 16 inch to get.

0:45:44The 16 inch is still not big enough.

0:45:46Like it's still not a monitor, right?

0:45:49Like the iMac that I have in front of me,

0:45:51it's 21 inches, right?

0:45:52That is like the bare minimum that I would want

0:45:55for a desktop machine.

0:45:57Like I would now having lived with like a 30 inch monitor

0:46:00for a while, I would struggle with this 21

0:46:05as my all the time monitor.

0:46:09Like if the 21 inch for the iMac,

0:46:12that's why I have the second display, remember?

0:46:14I just forgot about that, I'm looking right at it.

0:46:16I have the second display for my iMac off to the side

0:46:19to put things, other windows on.

0:46:21Like it wouldn't be enough.

0:46:23So I would want a much larger display

0:46:26and no laptop's really gonna do that for me.

0:46:30So I don't really know, but it does look amazing.

0:46:32It's super powerful and I'm very excited.

0:46:35But it is one of those things where like,

0:46:37this is why I desperately want an Apple made external display

0:46:42because in theory, it would match and exceed

0:46:45what this laptop can do.

0:46:47- But the search for display continues though.

0:46:49Like now we have this new higher baseline of,

0:46:54well, now we want to display that as promotion and mini LED.

0:46:58So in a way, even the Pro Display XDR is kind of updated

0:47:03at this point.

0:47:04- Well, there isn't a search for it.

0:47:06I mean, from my perspective,

0:47:07I'm not gonna look for something.

0:47:08I'm just gonna wait.

0:47:09I am convinced Apple are going to make a display

0:47:12at some point.

0:47:13Like I'm convinced of it.

0:47:14It makes sense.

0:47:16They have this new display technology, as you say,

0:47:19that like even their best display,

0:47:22which is an obscene amount of money, doesn't support.

0:47:25And so, you know, it's either they're gonna make it

0:47:28themselves or they're gonna have a new LG monitor

0:47:30or whatever, right?

0:47:31But like at a certain point,

0:47:33a ProMotion Mini LED display is going to be needed.

0:47:38And I'm assuming that they are going to make that.

0:47:43But right now that just doesn't happen.

0:47:46- Man, that's gonna be so sweet.

0:47:48- Yeah, my sort of assumption now is that

0:47:52if we're gonna get this, it'll be with the big iMac.

0:47:55- There was a report from a display analyst

0:47:58that there is a new iMac, a 27-inch iMac,

0:48:01with all of this technology coming early next year.

0:48:06It was originally reported as an external display,

0:48:08but was corrected to say, actually, no,

0:48:10that it was a display for an iMac.

0:48:13But I just gotta assume that these things

0:48:16will eventually come together.

0:48:18- Yeah, I'm a little surprised that rumor says,

0:48:21or that report says 27, I think 30 inches at 5.5K

0:48:26would be about right, but we'll see.

0:48:28We will see.

0:48:31But all in all, I'm super pumped about this, super--

0:48:34- This looks so cool, man.

0:48:36Everything about it, the ports, MagSafe, everything.

0:48:39- Yeah, I mean, it shows that Apple is listening.

0:48:42You know, it's sort of the story that started

0:48:44with the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro.

0:48:45This is like chapter three or four of that,

0:48:47of really listening to what people want

0:48:49and need out of their high-end Macs.

0:48:51That's good.

0:48:52- Yep, really, it's really great.

0:48:54I'm very excited for this computer

0:48:57because, you know, it's like, I was so excited.

0:49:01We all were so excited last time

0:49:03just for like benchmarks, right?

0:49:06And this thing's gonna be just a monster, right?

0:49:11Like especially the Macs variant.

0:49:13It's gonna be an absolute monster.

0:49:16Like, you know, they were mentioning, I think,

0:49:17about like it can do some video exporting stuff faster than the Mac Pro

0:49:22because of the integrated like handling a video into the system on a chip and I

0:49:27cannot wait to see some of that stuff. And not just faster than my 12 core but

0:49:33the the M1 Mac's system on a chip because it has like twice as many video encoding

0:49:41blocks as the M1 Pro and both of them have ProRes support so it's basically

0:49:46get an afterburner built into the system on a chip is faster and can render more

0:49:51streams of 4 and 8k than a 28 core Mac Pro with an afterburner in it. So it's

0:49:59just gonna, your laptop is just gonna absolutely decimate my Mac Pro in terms

0:50:03of this. How you feeling about that? Like no jokes but like how you feeling about

0:50:06that? I still really love having a desktop. I really love having all the

0:50:11stuff inside the tower. I for about 30 seconds thought you know maybe if I got

0:50:17a 16 inch I could drive it with the pro display it's what David Sparks is gonna

0:50:20do. We talked about that on MPU 611 which is be out sometime today but for me...

0:50:26Can I make a prediction by the way? Because obviously I haven't heard that

0:50:29make power uses but he said it in slack today. I guarantee you within four months

0:50:33David has two MacBook Pros. Because he said he wanted to keep

0:50:39small one to like going out with he's gonna get a 14 to replace that 13 I'm

0:50:43convinced of it oh maybe but but I really like having a desktop so you know

0:50:48when there's a new Mac Pro whatever that looks like that's what I'll move to and

0:50:52I really like having the big desktop and then a nice notebook so I mean I knew

0:50:57the day was coming I'm a little surprised a 14-inch MacBook Pro is

0:51:00what's gonna beat it but yeah but I also think it's really cool well could we

0:51:05We don't know.

0:51:06Yeah, we don't know.

0:51:07There's things, they've said things it can do.

0:51:09Yeah.

0:51:10We gotta see when like people with benchmarks, you know, people like Quinn and Marquez and

0:51:18all these people actually have them in hand, you know, then we can really see.

0:51:23But it seems like it's gonna get beat.

0:51:26But one of my favorite things about this announcement is that you can spec a 14 and 16 inch basically

0:51:31the same.

0:51:33And so you're not limited to the smaller system on a chip

0:51:38and the smaller notebook.

0:51:39And I think that's pretty cool.

0:51:41- Yep, there's no change anymore.

0:51:43I think they have a marketing line on their website

0:51:47about that somewhere.

0:51:48Like it's very reminiscent of like the iPad stuff

0:51:53or whatever, right?

0:51:54Like you can just, you just choose the size screen you want

0:51:57and everything else, it's the same.

0:51:59Oh, you can choose your size, choose your chip,

0:52:02- Let it rip, that's what the...

0:52:04(laughing)

0:52:05- It'd be so much fun to write those.

0:52:07- Yeah, it seems like a good job, right?

0:52:10That does seem like a fun job to have.

0:52:12- Yep.

0:52:13- Yeah, I'm...

0:52:14Oh, I guess this 'cause this didn't come up.

0:52:18Two questions, it's all under the idea of design.

0:52:23I wanna know how you both feel about the feet and the notch.

0:52:27- I mean, I don't really care about the feet.

0:52:30I actually think it looks kinda cool,

0:52:32But about the, I'm sorry about the what? The feet, the feet.

0:52:36There's very prominent feet on this machine. Yeah. Myke's into feet.

0:52:39Is that, is that a, is that a pro? Is that a problem?

0:52:45Like, no, no, no. I don't think anyone's saying it's a problem.

0:52:49Do you ask who, because some people have opinions.

0:52:53I don't know if they do. I kind of don't care. But it's,

0:52:55it's something that looks kind of different and I just wonder what you thought

0:52:59about it. Like, then they're not, it's a design element now in a way that the feet of the

0:53:04laptop haven't been before. Let me see, are there pictures? Because if you just go to

0:53:09the website, right, like if you go to the little things there, the feet are in all of

0:53:14the images and like it wasn't a thing they had before. Even if you looked at a laptop

0:53:17from that angle before you would see the little kind of like rubbery black, dumb feet that

0:53:22they had on. Right. But if you look at the product imagery, it's not in any of those

0:53:26Like the new ones are, it is a design element of this machine.

0:53:31Like they have...

0:53:32The real question is, can I screw wheels into these feet?

0:53:35Probably not. Why would you?

0:53:37Probably not, but maybe 12 South will create some kind of like...

0:53:41It's not a skateboard, Steven. It could be.

0:53:4516 could be.

0:53:46They look like, from the side, they look like camera bumps.

0:53:50Yeah, I saw someone compare that.

0:53:54Like that does actually look a little bit like the camera bump on the iPhone 13.

0:53:58The notch is fine. I actually, I'm actually happy that there's a notch

0:54:03because it makes the Mac feel newer.

0:54:06Like it makes it feel more modern.

0:54:09It's like, I don't know, I feel like the notch gives me this illusion of,

0:54:15oh, it's modern like an iPhone 10 style design.

0:54:19And so I'm actually happy there is one because I think it's fun

0:54:22then now you have all these different ways for apps to adapt to the menu bar.

0:54:27And yeah, I just...

0:54:30It looks new and new, you know, like, you know, it creates...

0:54:33What was it? The line of Mad Men, it creates that itch, right?

0:54:37It's people, you know, it resonates with people.

0:54:39People respond to new and I respond to new and the notch looks new.

0:54:43So I'm happy that it's there because it makes it look different.

0:54:47And it's fun.

0:54:47I feel like it's a little bigger than it needs to be,

0:54:49but I understand that it's like, it's for the future, right?

0:54:54Like they definitely don't need a notch of this size

0:54:57just for that 1080p webcam.

0:54:59- That's where Face ID is gonna move in.

0:55:01- Yeah, like it's gotta be, right?

0:55:03Like they really don't need that amount of size.

0:55:07It's massive compared to the camera that goes inside of it.

0:55:12Like, you know, yeah.

0:55:14So, but my kind of feeling on it is like,

0:55:18it's mostly unused space on a Mac.

0:55:21So what's the harm?

0:55:23- And moving the menu bar up there

0:55:25still gives you 16 by 10 area beneath it.

0:55:29There's a bunch of stuff floating around

0:55:30about how the mouse and how the applications interact

0:55:34with the notch.

0:55:35If you're in full screen mode, basically it just goes away.

0:55:38I think it's totally fine.

0:55:39Look on the phone, we all lost track of the notch

0:55:42basically after three days.

0:55:44So I'm not fussed about it.

0:55:46And I like what Federico said about new.

0:55:49Like it has the, it just looks like a modern computer

0:55:54because lots of modern computers have notches on them.

0:55:56And I know that people will say like,

0:55:58well, the iPad doesn't have a notch,

0:56:00but then the bezels would have been bigger

0:56:03around the whole machine, right?

0:56:05Around the whole screen.

0:56:06And I prefer them to push those bezels out on the Mac

0:56:09and get it to a 14 inch laptop

0:56:11without it being too much bigger than the 13

0:56:14and get the bezels to be as small as they can and have the notch.

0:56:17I think they made the right trade-off.

0:56:20Exactly. And some people would have complained anyway,

0:56:22because if you have bezels, then they say,

0:56:24"Oh, and Apple claims it's edge-to-edge," but it's really not.

0:56:27I mean, look, a mini-LED display without bezels just doesn't exist.

0:56:31Or Apple can make one at the moment.

0:56:33So you may wish for one,

0:56:35but then you just got to accept reality that it's not possible.

0:56:38But the bezels are like, they're smaller than on the iPad,

0:56:40but the iPad's bezels are for a good reason.

0:56:43Like you need to be able to hold.

0:56:45- To hold it, exactly.

0:56:46- Yeah.

0:56:47So I think this is the right mixture of stuff too.

0:56:50- Little parking spot for your thumb on the iPad.

0:56:53So yeah.

0:56:54- And the iPad most of the time is in landscape

0:56:58for a lot of people, but Apple still contends

0:57:00that you can use it any way you want.

0:57:02And so like is the notch on the side sometimes?

0:57:04So that would be, it would help break that illusion

0:57:06I think on the iPad where you're not gonna turn

0:57:08your MacBook Pro on its side probably.

0:57:11The other thing that is a little unusual about the screen is that it's rounded in the top

0:57:16corners but square in the bottom corners if you look at their marketing images.

0:57:21I don't like that.

0:57:22Why is it not round in the bottom too?

0:57:24It's like the mullet of this place.

0:57:27It's rounded at the top and squared off at the bottom.

0:57:30Would that be party at the top, business at the bottom, right?

0:57:35I don't know why they did that.

0:57:38I wish they would have made a decision, right?

0:57:42Like it's either corner, it's either sharp or rounded

0:57:45because my iMac has sharp corners on the screen.

0:57:48They didn't round that.

0:57:49Like, I don't know why they went just halfway.

0:57:53That's a curious decision, I think.

0:57:57- And of course it's 120 Hertz.

0:58:00So, have fun with that.

0:58:03- Let's go in the real world.

0:58:04- I'll be disabling it.

0:58:06- Oh, of course you will.

0:58:07Yeah.

0:58:07Okay, so that is round one.

0:58:11Myke, one point. Federico, one point. Stephen, no points.

0:58:16Neil Pois.

0:58:17Round two. Myke.

0:58:20We got a color option that is new to the MacBook Pro in name.

0:58:24Nope.

0:58:26They screwed me here.

0:58:26That's silver and space gray.

0:58:28They screwed me big time.

0:58:30How about no.

0:58:31Like they didn't even do what I thought they were going to do, which is like,

0:58:36Just rename the space gray, you know, like to some other color, you know.

0:58:40Just call it graphite.

0:58:41I mean, they did not do it.

0:58:44They did not do it.

0:58:46Can we reiterate on the show how messed up the color situation on Apple computers is as of October 2021?

0:58:55It's a disaster right now.

0:58:56- Why we have silver MacBooks, but that sort of, you know, champagne-like starlight on Apple watches and iPhones.

0:59:09- Well, some iPhones. Some iPhones are silver. - But some iPhones...

0:59:14- Hey, look, I would much rather be complaining about this and keyboards that don't work.

0:59:18So, like, we have it pretty good. - But you still, you know, it's...

0:59:23you still gotta maintain that thing you complain about because it's good for your soul.

0:59:28Like, to have a small...

0:59:30Yes, because you gotta have a very small negative feeling inside of you

0:59:35to make sure that the positive ones can flourish.

0:59:37Yeah, most of those negative feelings, you just have to push them down.

0:59:42Just like...

0:59:43Yes.

0:59:43Push them down. That's the healthy part.

0:59:46You push them way down.

0:59:47Is it though?

0:59:48Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:59:49Just take them, squeeze them into a little ball,

0:59:52Push them down. That's the way to handle it.

0:59:55But it needs to be a small thing that doesn't consume your life.

0:59:58That's why the butterfly keyboard was not an ideal small negative feeling,

1:00:03because that was going to consume your life.

1:00:05Too big, you can't push that one down.

1:00:07Because if you pushed it down too hard, it would break. Am I right?

1:00:10Yes.

1:00:12Speaking of which, I need to tell you guys something.

1:00:15OK.

1:00:16I think I typed too much on the Magic keyboard

1:00:22and I broke it. The iPad one.

1:00:24Well, break it like how?

1:00:27At the backspace key is wobbly.

1:00:30Huh, you made too many errors, huh?

1:00:33I made too many typos. I correct myself too much.

1:00:36You've been... There you go, Apple's punishing you.

1:00:39Yeah.

1:00:40Big, more correct.

1:00:43Yeah. Anyway, it feels like color will now be the thing where it's like, "Oh, these MacBook

1:00:50Prose are amazing, but it's like this thing, if only the colors were better, you know?

1:00:56They gotta leave something for you to complain about, so that also it looks like when you

1:01:01recommend the computer to other people, it looks like your objective.

1:01:06Because then you say, these computers are amazing, but if I can tell you one thing,

1:01:09it's color.

1:01:10One thing.

1:01:11And people are like, oh, you know, this guy's objective, because it's like raising complaints.

1:01:15So it's my whole theory about, you know.

1:01:18one thing that you don't like so that you can appreciate everything else and appear

1:01:23more objective in your criticism.

1:01:26What's your pick?

1:01:29What was my pick?

1:01:31Any kind of release timeframe is provided for macOS Monterey.

1:01:36This is a terrible pick, man.

1:01:39This is the... like reading this pick back, this pick sucks.

1:01:43Why?

1:01:44Any kind of release timeframe.

1:01:46Yeah, but he got the point.

1:01:48Who has the passion? Who has the passion?

1:01:50Oh, now you're playing this card on me because you know how things are going for you.

1:01:56No passion at all.

1:01:58No, you guys! Oh, you were saying no.

1:02:01You think they're going to mention MagQuest, Monterey?

1:02:04They're never going to do that.

1:02:06Oh, you'll be lucky if they mention Monterey at all.

1:02:10I feel like you're just making all this up.

1:02:12There's literally no way to know what was said on previous episodes.

1:02:15Yeah.

1:02:17No passion.

1:02:18macOS Monterey launching Monday, October 25th.

1:02:23I'm gonna have a review on Mac stories.

1:02:25Stephen is gonna do screenshots for 512, the official resource of macOS UI.

1:02:33And I will be installing it.

1:02:34You will be installing it.

1:02:36I am using it right now.

1:02:39Wow.

1:02:39It's okay.

1:02:41It's fine.

1:02:42So if there's any audio issues of Federico's track, it's because he's using it.

1:02:46- I'm just saying if, not me.

1:02:49- No, I am gonna blame you.

1:02:50If it's your fault.

1:02:53- Well, it may be my fault, but I still get the point

1:02:55because Mac OS Monterey is coming out.

1:02:57Apple said it, so this is a point.

1:03:00- Apple announces a Mac mini that is more performant

1:03:04than the original M1 model.

1:03:06- They didn't do either of those things, did they?

1:03:08- There was no Mac mini and it wasn't performant.

1:03:11- Performant.

1:03:12I hate that you put that in the public record.

1:03:15- Performant.

1:03:16performance. This didn't happen at all, did it? No Mac Mini! Just two laptops.

1:03:22Just laptops. You haven't been really performant in this Riki's so far, Stephen.

1:03:27I think you always do really bad in the Mac focused events. You won last year

1:03:35with the Mac Mini. Yeah. Was that a Mac? Oh yeah, it was a Mac focused event. I'm just bad

1:03:40this time around. All right, you've just done really bad this time. Mm-hmm. I'm the

1:03:44one that is usually bad with the max stuff. Yeah, so at the end of round two

1:03:49Federico has two points, Myke has one point, and I have no points. It hurts. It

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1:05:25All right, time for the risky picks. Myke, you're up first.

1:05:31"Apple teases another Mac that is not for sale right now with Pro in the name and says it's coming next year"

1:05:37Or also known as "All the ways Myke doesn't want to say Mac Pro in a pic and still get a point"

1:05:47Look this is part of my previous strategy of complex multi-staged Ricky pics

1:05:55multi-layered Ricky Biggs. I said, well, let me rephrase, I was forced to say...

1:06:04No you weren't. What difference does it make?

1:06:06Apple announces a new display that is not the Pro Display XDR, launching by the end of 2021,

1:06:12somewhere. The somewhere is still my favorite part.

1:06:16It really is.

1:06:20You know, I was thinking, we have a problem now, because now, obviously this risky pick was wrong,

1:06:28but now neither Myke nor I can pick these picks for the next year.

1:06:36None of us can.

1:06:37None of us can. I can't use them either.

1:06:39Yeah, oh, right.

1:06:40So the next Mac event is gonna be, it's gonna be rough. It's gonna be real bad.

1:06:45Yeah, because we picked them now.

1:06:47And you know as well this is going to come back to bite us because I am definitely going

1:06:52to forget this.

1:06:53Yeah.

1:06:54Right?

1:06:55So we're going to be, we're going to have to get in the habit now of checking our picks

1:07:01before the show.

1:07:03Or we need to understand that there's now a strategic element to not making certain

1:07:10picks unless you're sure about them.

1:07:12It's sort of like playing Pokemon when like competitively...

1:07:14No, because the strategy is, alright, so follow me here.

1:07:19The strategy is knocking things out for other people to be able to pick later on.

1:07:26Or it could be that.

1:07:28It could be, right, there are two equal strategies.

1:07:31So either you withhold your moves because you don't want to waste them or you want to

1:07:37burn it just to make sure that nobody else can use it.

1:07:40Which is spiteful, but I love it.

1:07:43my first picks of the year I'm just like "new iphone new mac!" and just like burn the first set of rickys

1:07:50and then hope to pick up on it later on. That is a strategy that honestly they should make like

1:07:57rickys the board game. We're creating a meta game now and that's that's the first step towards

1:08:03a trading card game. Matt make a game board for us. I want a trading card game. Don't let Zuckerberg

1:08:09hear you that you're making a meta game or is there a guy or us meta versus look

1:08:14is now called connected no that was suck right wouldn't that suck so bad like

1:08:21when that movie the move which we were very lucky said it was a movie that was

1:08:26gonna be called connected on Netflix but they changed it to something something

1:08:30something imagine if Facebook rebrands us really okay so my risky pick I felt

1:08:38so good about for a second because they were like you know I owe and

1:08:43connectivity is really important for pros and I was like they're gonna put a

1:08:475g in it they're gonna do it because she said connectivity 5g becomes an option

1:08:53on at least one MacBook I never thought this was gonna happen yeah this because

1:08:59this feels like one of those things that like you would need to really see the

1:09:05the kind of groundwork for it in macOS first, like that they wouldn't be able to hide it,

1:09:12you know?

1:09:15You know what would have been incredible? If this pick was right, you would have seen

1:09:21the beauty of the Riki's. Because if Apple had brought 5G to the MacBook, Steven would

1:09:30have won the game despite not having any regular pick right up until the risky pick round.

1:09:38So for those people out there that criticize the way that the risky part worked, that's

1:09:44the joy of it, right?

1:09:45It all rides.

1:09:47But obviously Steven did not pick right, so the argument is invalid.

1:09:53The final score is Federico has one point, Myke has zero points, and I'm at minus one.

1:10:04Congratulations Federico.

1:10:05So we need to change our trophies.

1:10:07I am back.

1:10:11I am like, I'm trying to think of a funny parallel.

1:10:16I am taking back control from the British monarchy in a way.

1:10:21thing Italians ever had to do? I don't think so. No, but I feel like I'm

1:10:25sympathizing with America here. So I'm like, I'm, you know, my rebellion, this is

1:10:32stage one. Sure. I mean, I just got a bit tired of winning all the time, really. I'm happy

1:10:39for a new challenge. It's more fun to be in the hunt, really, than to

1:10:43just be a consistent winner, winner, winner, over and over again. You literally began the show by asking Steven to

1:10:50introduce you with your royal title. Yeah, yeah, because that was something I

1:10:54earned, you know. King Flexy, actually King Ricky is here now. Wait, okay. Well, that

1:11:04would be me. You're just gonna be King Ricky? I am Prince Flexy and King Ricky.

1:11:09You're Prince Flexy, are you? Well, we'll see about that in a minute.

1:11:13I'm Prince Flexi at night.

1:11:15King Ricky.

1:11:17That's one of the Pilates that does that.

1:11:19You and Joseph Pilates.

1:11:21I guess that's a pro show thing, right?

1:11:23That's not what we all do. No, it's in the main show.

1:11:25We're talking about it in the main show.

1:11:27That felt like a very pro show topic, but nevertheless.

1:11:29This is stage one of the rebellion.

1:11:35Taking back the keynote chairman title.

1:11:38Now I got my eyes set on the annual chairman title.

1:11:42What is the rebellion?

1:11:44The rebellion against you and your monarchy inspired rule over the chairman titles for the past year.

1:11:54So your way to rebel against the monarchy is to become a king? That sounds very rebellion.

1:11:59No, but see I'm a modern king.

1:12:01What does that mean?

1:12:03For example, I will not demand any kind of special introduction. I will be a king of the people.

1:12:11Again, I don't think such a thing exists.

1:12:15But you can keep telling yourself that if you like.

1:12:17I will be an approachable king, you know?

1:12:21One that engages with the people, with the passionate ones.

1:12:26Not unlike you, with your fancy title

1:12:29and your fancy introductions.

1:12:31You'll see.

1:12:33Congratulations Federico.

1:12:34Thank you.

1:12:35Yeah, congratulations Federico.

1:12:36This is the first time in a minute

1:12:38someone has had a negative score, I think.

1:12:40So that hurts. Do you have a negative score? Yeah. What are you, minus one? I lost every,

1:12:47I didn't get a single thing right. It's kind of funny that I won the Mac event and you

1:12:52scored a negative point, Steven. Yeah. It's especially funny considering how much you

1:12:57were complaining last week about being forced to change your picks. I have no idea what

1:13:01a Mac is, all that kind of stuff you were saying. And now look at you. He's sandbagging

1:13:04I was fooling you and you fell for it.

1:13:09I don't believe that for one second. I believe absolutely zero.

1:13:13You fell into my king-sized lap. So...

1:13:18King-sized?

1:13:20I don't like that.

1:13:21Is that a Pilates related thing too?

1:13:24Fully thigh-based Pilates.

1:13:27Really just...

1:13:29Troubling down.

1:13:31He's a thick king.

1:13:32[Laughter]

1:13:34There we go.

1:13:36[Laughter]

1:13:38I love my curvy monarch.

1:13:40Did you say curvy?

1:13:42Did you say curvy monarch?

1:13:44Yeah, he said I love my curvy monarch.

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1:15:17It is now time for the flexies.

1:15:21Please stand.

1:15:24Okay.

1:15:25Okay, again.

1:15:26I sent my photographic proof, by the way.

1:15:31My photographic proof has been texted

1:15:32to the two of you that I've changed the truth.

1:15:34Okay, yes, that's good.

1:15:35I will send you mine.

1:15:36Loser of the flexies must compensate

1:15:41the winner of the flexies by donating

1:15:43to the charity of the winner's choice.

1:15:45The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong flexy

1:15:48made by the loser.

1:15:50Each host must make a minimum of five flexy picks.

1:15:54Flexis may be reused as future flexis or regular picks.

1:15:58The winner is determined by the ratio

1:16:00of correct to incorrect flexis,

1:16:02and the money must be donated on air.

1:16:04A tie in the regular picks or flexis

1:16:08is to be broken by coin toss.

1:16:12As Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping the coin,

1:16:15dice by P-Calc in relay FM mode

1:16:18is the official way to break a tie.

1:16:21Myke, you are up, no, you're not at first.

1:16:23- Wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait a second.

1:16:26Is that part about the coin flipping only in the flexi rules?

1:16:30- I've started reading them separately

1:16:32and I think they need to be read together again.

1:16:34- No, I like the reading of the flexi parts separately.

1:16:39So like maybe we need to put that in both parts.

1:16:43- Maybe.

1:16:45I think we also have a problem

1:16:47of like explaining what the flexis are.

1:16:49So maybe we can deal with this next time.

1:16:53Yeah, I like the separation of powers here as it were,

1:16:58but I think that we need to maybe move some stuff around.

1:17:03- I'm making some comments for next time.

1:17:05- This is a big production over here.

1:17:06- Mm-hmm, all right, Federico, you're up.

1:17:10- Okay, HDMI and SD card reader are back on the MacBook Pro,

1:17:15and that was the only correct one that I got.

1:17:18- We're gonna ding him?

1:17:18- Oh yeah, sorry. (bell dings)

1:17:20- Thank you.

1:17:21Then we have a collection of wrong picks.

1:17:24Apple demos a Mac app that takes advantage

1:17:26of the updated neural engine.

1:17:29Nope.

1:17:30Apple unveils a space black MacBook Pro.

1:17:33Nope.

1:17:34John Turner's is wearing jeans and a black t-shirt.

1:17:38Unfortunately-- - You were so close.

1:17:40- I was close, but he wore a blue t-shirt, so.

1:17:43- This pick was like, just in,

1:17:46after this was very funny to me

1:17:47in a way that I'm not entirely sure why,

1:17:50But it was just like really hilarious to me afterwards,

1:17:52'cause I'd completely forgotten.

1:17:53And Federico in our text chat was like,

1:17:56"It's black, it's black!"

1:17:57And they're like, "Oh no, it's blue!"

1:17:59(laughing)

1:18:00It's a very strange thing to come across.

1:18:04- And lastly, I said,

1:18:06"There's going to be a funny scene involving

1:18:09one of the characters of Ted Lasso."

1:18:11And nope.

1:18:14- So you got one out of five.

1:18:16- Yeah.

1:18:17- What is the percentage of that?

1:18:19not good 20%. So yeah, 20%. I'm just correct in my trophy because I had Federico in the

1:18:27complete wrong place. I think I need to label these somehow, but I've got you in the right

1:18:31place now. That's good. Yeah, this little tricky to kind of work out where they all

1:18:35go tricky. Ricky Ricky Ricky trophy. The tricky should be the name of the trophy is not the

1:18:43official Ricky's trophy. It's the tricky. Oh my God. Yeah, I like that. I'm on board.

1:18:47That's 100% cosign from me.

1:18:50Tricky.

1:18:51Named the... I'm begging a comment and we'll deal with it next time.

1:18:54Because it's tricky to get right and it's a trophy.

1:18:57Yeah.

1:18:58And it's a tricky trophy.

1:18:58And it seemed tricky to make.

1:19:00My picks.

1:19:02USB-C charging is faster than the new MagSafe.

1:19:05Other way around.

1:19:07There's been a lot about this, like backwards and forwards and backwards and forwards.

1:19:12So you can charge by USB-C.

1:19:15Yes.

1:19:15If you're on the, if you have the 14 inch,

1:19:18I believe USB-C charging will charge as fast as MagSafe,

1:19:23which can do like 50% in half an hour

1:19:26or something like that.

1:19:28But that's not the case for the 16.

1:19:32Because the 16 needs a huge Apple's first GAN charger

1:19:37to get it to work.

1:19:40- And that thing is enormous.

1:19:42It looks like the old Airport Express.

1:19:45Yes, it's a big charger.

1:19:46I wonder what it looks like in real life though.

1:19:49Maybe the perspective is strange on it.

1:19:51I'm intrigued, but yeah,

1:19:52there's been a lot backwards and forwards

1:19:54about the charging.

1:19:55MacBook Pro colors don't include anything radically new

1:20:01for the line.

1:20:02I like that you had to say radically.

1:20:06You could have just said no.

1:20:07Chip is called quote M1X.

1:20:12No.

1:20:14a bit more on than that one, could you? A new MacBook comes with at least one non

1:20:20USB-C Thunderbolt port on the laptop itself. Got a whole bunch of ports.

1:20:26Plenty of ports. HDMI, SD card, headphone jack. The way you read that made me think

1:20:34that it was like a non USB-C Thunderbolt 4 port, like it was a different

1:20:39Thunderbolt 4.

1:20:41Sorry, what does that mean?

1:20:42I see why that's confusing now.

1:20:43Yeah.

1:20:44The new MacBook Pro displays run at a native 2X.

1:20:49Mac OS Monterey features are reviewed, so I have this one in yellow because I

1:20:56need I want feedback on it.

1:20:58Yeah.

1:20:59Craig spoke about Monterey and how Mac OS in general can run apps that are for the

1:21:07Mac for iOS, iPadOS, but we didn't get like a, this is SharePlay, this is how this works.

1:21:14I don't think he did it. He like said the Mac can do things and said that Monterey was

1:21:19coming but because even the stuff that they showed like they were M1 features, they're

1:21:24not Monterey features.

1:21:25Yeah, so that is incorrect.

1:21:27Yeah.

1:21:28Yeah.

1:21:29And then lastly, the new MacBook Pro power bricks have ports on them like the iMac does

1:21:34for Ethernet.

1:21:35Surprised about this actually. I thought that that was a bit of a given.

1:21:39I was until I saw something in the discord. I'm sorry. I don't remember. I didn't write down who said it

1:21:45But I realized as soon as I saw it

1:21:47that

1:21:49You probably don't want your

1:21:51network connection

1:21:53To like come out of the back of the laptop and magsafe on the laptop is designed to pop out

1:21:59And the magnets on the iMac are really strong and so it doesn't really pop out. So I don't know.

1:22:05But also, you never unplug the iMac.

1:22:08Right?

1:22:10- Yeah, right.

1:22:12- It's not like you're like,

1:22:13oh, I need to move my iMac over there

1:22:15or unplug it for a bit.

1:22:16Like you don't, that's not a thing.

1:22:18I mean, you could still do it.

1:22:19I still think there's an argument for it,

1:22:21but I understand why you might not do it.

1:22:23- I think it'd be cool, but oh well.

1:22:26- 'Cause otherwise there is no ethernet port on the laptop,

1:22:29so you're always using wifi,

1:22:30so you could at least when plugged in,

1:22:32you have ethernet speeds,

1:22:33and then when you unplug it,

1:22:34to switch to Wi-Fi. Yeah. Oh well. I understand why it's maybe a tad trickier then. So I got

1:22:42three out of my seven. Okay. Which is 43%. So I'm ahead of Federico at his 20%. Yeah.

1:22:54- Okay, Myke.

1:22:54- New AirPods.

1:22:57MacBook Pro has a mini LED screen.

1:23:01Chip is not called M1X.

1:23:05Webcam will be called highest quality on a Mac.

1:23:10I was so close.

1:23:11- You missed it by one word.

1:23:13- Yes, I needed the word notebook.

1:23:15- Yeah.

1:23:15- They seem to interchangeably use notebook and laptop,

1:23:18and I don't know why.

1:23:19- They do.

1:23:20They also like called it a machine several times,

1:23:22which Apple used to never do.

1:23:24Yeah, notebook.

1:23:25I don't know why they call them notebooks.

1:23:27Is that a thing that people still call laptops notebooks?

1:23:30I feel like not.

1:23:31My portable computer.

1:23:32Nice.

1:23:35Laptops will be thicker than the models they replace.

1:23:37These computers are bigger in basically every dimension.

1:23:41To the point of if you have a 13 inch something

1:23:45and you can do the 14 inch, it might not fit in your bag.

1:23:48Like be prepared for that.

1:23:49Wow, yeah, that's a good point.

1:23:51I'm very concerned about my backpack.

1:23:53Well, no, you love a new backpack, so...

1:23:56That's true.

1:23:57So I got four out of five.

1:24:01Which is an 80%.

1:24:04Which seems significantly better than the two of you.

1:24:07So I lost a new one, the Flexi.

1:24:10I'm Prince Flexi now.

1:24:12You can try and use that title, but it'll never be fully yours.

1:24:15Okay, hang on. I would like to be...

1:24:17I guess we can do whatever we want at this point.

1:24:21You can be the Duke of Flexi.

1:24:24I could be the Duke of Flexi.

1:24:25I could be Viscount Flexi.

1:24:27Yeah.

1:24:28What else could I be?

1:24:30I like Duke, actually.

1:24:32Duke Flexi.

1:24:34The Duke of Flexi.

1:24:35Or would it be just Duke Flexi?

1:24:37I guess Duke Flexi makes me sound like I'm an American.

1:24:40Duke Flexi!

1:24:41That just sounds like an American person.

1:24:42Nice job, Duke!

1:24:45It would be kind of incredible, right?

1:24:46if there was this one phrase that like when I admit it's Duke of Flexi when it's

1:24:51Steven it's Duke Flexi but there isn't a third one that makes sense

1:24:57you could be the Duke of Flexington I love it yes yes yes yes I love it the

1:25:05Duke of Flexington that's me I've been I've been mailing out a bunch of

1:25:10calendars and it's amazing some of the towns and stuff in the UK yeah we have

1:25:16some great town names. It's like "Hampingshireton" on something else.

1:25:21Over the last couple of weekends I could take it a couple of trips in England and

1:25:25I have come across many places which I've literally never heard of before

1:25:28it's very fun for me all our little towns like it's just I just never heard

1:25:32of these places I never would have known that they would have existed but yes I

1:25:36am now the Duke of Flexington. Okay Myke you need to pick a charity. Yes I have

1:25:41picked the charity. And Federico, you have four wrong flexi, so you're donating $100.

1:25:49Okay, where to Michael? You're going to donate to the charity called Mind, and you're going

1:25:58to mind.org.uk. So Mind provided advice and support around mental health issues, ranging

1:26:05from direct financial support, to raising awareness, to providing services and support,

1:26:11promoting the understanding around mental health. Their whole mission is that they don't

1:26:16give up until everyone experiencing a mental health problem gets support and respect. So

1:26:20mind is my charity.

1:26:22I am donating £100 because it just feels nicer that way.

1:26:27Thank you Federica.

1:26:29Donation type. I am donating my own money.

1:26:33Because of a bet.

1:26:34Let us know why are you, uh...

1:26:38tell them. Please don't tell them. In memory of a loved one. Okay. Their first name. No,

1:26:47no, no, no, no. I mean, what should I do? I only have three options. Because of your

1:26:54experiences, because of the experiences of someone close to you, in memory of a loved

1:26:58one. The middle one. The experiences of someone close to you. Please tell us more about your

1:27:04gift. I had to ask a lot of questions huh? I lost a bet on a podcast, but I am very happy

1:27:16to do this. Perfect. I am not a UK taxpayer so I am just gonna do my donation and you

1:27:23guys please you can wrap up the show and I will send you the receipts in a minute. You're

1:27:30in pronunciation now. I enjoyed the P. The pronunciation of P.

1:27:34I went for it. I went for it.

1:27:36I have the letters in there, I'm pronouncing it. I've lost the point of being in there.

1:27:41Postcode…

1:27:42This is a nice website.

1:27:44Steven, this is your point to take over.

1:27:46Yes, it's a very modern website.

1:27:48I like the colors a lot.

1:27:50Yeah, it's good, right?

1:27:52Well that wraps up the Ricky's October 2021. The next time we play, it'll probably be

1:27:58for the annual ones. I don't think there's gonna be another Apple event so...

1:28:02I'm just gonna say it now, please let it be the next time we do this.

1:28:06Yeah, I don't want to do a November event. Last year was it was so much.

1:28:10I don't want to do a November, Ricky's.

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1:28:31Look at the images.

1:28:32It's amazing.

1:28:33Thank you again, Matt.

1:28:35That's made my day.

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1:28:59- And our own band.

1:29:01- And our own, the Connected band,

1:29:04which is minimal in every way.

1:29:06- Sergeant Connected's, Ricky losing band.

1:29:09(laughing)

1:29:12- Sergeant Salty's losing band.

1:29:14It's like Salty's a-

1:29:17- No, no, no, I got it.

1:29:18I got it.

1:29:19- I didn't want it to go by, you know?

1:29:20- We have a whole collection of albums on the band.

1:29:24we have that one we have the album you know it's like the white album but it's

1:29:31without colors we have let it pick which is let it be but then after the rickies

1:29:38yep you know I hate the segment instead of revolver it's a revolving Robin

1:29:45you know, because sometimes we do round robins.

1:29:48- I really don't.

1:29:49I just, I hate this.

1:29:51(laughing)

1:29:53I hate this segment.

1:29:54- You can find us all online.

1:29:57You can find Myke on Twitter as I-M-Y-K-E

1:30:02and Myke, what else do you want to plug here?

1:30:04- Cortexmerch.com, buy a journal.

1:30:10- You can find Federico on Twitter.

1:30:12- Oh, we have upgrade merch too.

1:30:13I'm doing two now.

1:30:14Upgrade to wardrobe calm. Oh, no. No, I'm done. I promise I do kind of want a hoodie

1:30:19They're really nice. They're in red and gray this time and they still got a cool print inside. It's in me hoodie. I

1:30:25Don't I don't have them. What do you think?

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1:31:40All right, we need a title I feel like I need to flip a coin and peacock or something

1:31:47So I think James I think James did some he's freaking out about it, right? I think he did something

1:31:52Do we want to just flip the coin between some titles maybe? Yeah, okay

1:31:57So we need I'd say we need three titles and we round them out with coin flips

1:32:03Oh, oh, I see what we're gonna do here. We're gonna gamify title picking. We're

1:32:07doing like a title coin flip flip-off. Yes. Like when we had to do that on

1:32:14stage and I spent an afternoon devising a like a bracketing system. Yeah. So I

1:32:21think we... Jason's makes a good point that four would probably work best for creating a bracket.

1:32:26Okay. So pick them and I'm gonna draw up a bracket and draw the coin flips. Alright, so how do you

1:32:33flip a coin in dice? Well you have to have relay FM mode. Myke's gonna, Myke you can

1:32:38do it. I got it, I got it all set up. Okay. Eaten by the Italian post office is all time

1:32:45tie a all pick. It needs to be I love my curvy monarch, right? I mean. It's also up there,

1:32:52I guess the good thing about the way we're doing it this time is it could be any of the

1:32:57Okay, so we have eaten by the Italian post office. Yeah, I love my curvy monarch I

1:33:03Don't want to use the trophy one because I don't want to ruin the surprise. Yeah

1:33:08Stretching in his grave. Yep stretching in his grave

1:33:12and

1:33:15I think

1:33:17Like stretching in his grave

1:33:19No, no, you don't want to do that. I don't want people to think we're talking about Steve Jobs or something. Oh my

1:33:26Right. I don't know why I'm okay with saying about Joseph Palazz, but you know.

1:33:31What about King- what about King-sized Lap?

1:33:34That's good. King-sized should be hyphenated.

1:33:37Yes.

1:33:39King-sized Lap, and then I also want to do "Don't Vote" for this title.

1:33:44Okay. Okay. Okay.

1:33:47Don't vote. Alright, I have the bracket system drawn up now.

1:33:51Okay, so the first round is gonna be between Italian post and curvy monarch, okay, okay

1:33:58So I'm gonna go Italian post his heads. Okay, curvy monarch is tails. All right, okay and do it

1:34:03We can all hear you know, turn your phone up stick it in the mic. I've done that already

1:34:06I've done that. I'm just double-checking. I got all the sentence. Correct. All right, you ready? I

1:34:10Don't even know if James is here anymore, but

1:34:13Wait

1:34:17Who was that

1:34:20What was that?

1:34:22What was that?

1:34:24What was that? It wasn't even

1:34:26in English!

1:34:28Wait, wait, wait.

1:34:30Is that a demon?

1:34:32Was that Romanian?

1:34:34No!

1:34:36It what?

1:34:38Wait!

1:34:40Oh!

1:34:42She's in the shot!

1:34:44She's confirmed it!

1:34:48Yeah, it was. So is that heads or tails in Romanian? Which one is the big R?

1:34:53Oh. Oh. I don't know what heads or tails is in Romanian. Hang on let me

1:34:57Heads it was heads it was heads it was heads it was heads. So the winner of that round was Italian post. Okay

1:35:04All right, so the second round. Oh my god banul banul banul

1:35:09See the problem is like we had this with Jason. When you hit like that, it's an Italian post

1:35:17When you win someone like it's impossible to recognize who these people are in these moments

1:35:23Yeah, like that's my wife and I didn't it's about they today. Well, I have about they're Dina

1:35:28It is impossible to detect someone I think when it's on unexpected like that

1:35:35All I knew is I heard a sound, you know what I mean? All right, so we're gonna do another one

1:35:40Okay. All right. This is heads is king-sized lap tails is don't vote for this title

1:35:46What?

1:35:48*laughter*

1:35:50That's Sylvia!

1:35:52How did they do this? Is that Sylvia?

1:35:54No way, yes!

1:35:56No, fuck no!

1:35:58What? How?

1:36:00What did James do?

1:36:02So James, I'm assuming

1:36:04I'm assuming that Mary's in here now

1:36:06James contacted our significant others

1:36:08Had them record Heads and Tails in separate languages

1:36:10Yeah

1:36:12Their names were in separate languages

1:36:14separate languages. Yeah. They're native tongues. What is she doing? Yep. Oh, man. Oh, my God.

1:36:19Okay. So, that was "Don't vote for this title"? No, that was "King Sigh's Lap." Yes. Yes.

1:36:26So that was "Heads." She said "Heads." Yes. She said "Heads." So now we have "Heads" is

1:36:31Italian, eaten by the Italian post office. "Tales" is "King Sigh's Lap." Okay. Alright,

1:36:38ready mm-hmm okay that's the dinner again which that does not sound like a

1:36:44Dina that just sounds like a Romanian series so that means that eaten by

1:36:56Italian post office is our title yes but now we need to flip the coin a bunch of

1:37:00time yeah we do we do both have colds right now so we're like yep that's Mary

1:37:08There you go.

1:37:10James...

1:37:12This is just incredible.

1:37:14What are you going to do next time? Get in touch with our parents?

1:37:16Like, what are you going to do?

1:37:18Yeah, I see. James, you've entered into the typical trap of anything to do with connected,

1:37:24where you have too quickly upped the ante.

1:37:27We have fell victim to this way too many times, where you...

1:37:32James, let me tell you, as one who's organized surprises before, now you're on the hook.

1:37:37Yeah, you're gonna get a tattoo next time.

1:37:39It does mean that Dice by a Peacock will be a guest on the connected pro version of the show

1:37:46*BANUL*

1:37:48*BANUL*

1:37:50I've learned a new word

1:37:52*BANUL*

1:37:54*TAILS*

1:37:56Wait, wait, wait, this is just flipping the coin.

1:38:00Yeah, now I'm just flipping it.

1:38:02*MARKA*

1:38:03What's that? Tails?

1:38:04That was... Marka, which I'm assuming that was Edina again.

1:38:09Yeah.

1:38:09Who knows?

1:38:10Yeah.

1:38:11Sleep again.

1:38:11Testa.

1:38:13Ah, that's Silvia again with heads.

1:38:15Testa.

1:38:16Marka.

1:38:18That was Marka.

1:38:19Okay.

1:38:19Marka is tails.

1:38:21Marka.

1:38:22Testa.

1:38:23Oh, always heads? Okay.

1:38:25It's always heads.

1:38:26We could be here all day.

1:38:27Okay, let's go on.

1:38:28Okay, so let's continue the bracket.

1:38:30Heads.

1:38:31*laughter*

1:38:33What?!

1:38:35Was that Mary doing a southern accent?

1:38:38I think it's probably the multiple options, right?

1:38:43Which is a thing that we hit before, right?

1:38:47Go on, keep flipping.

1:38:50*Marika*

1:38:52No, he's- okay.

1:38:54*Tails*

1:38:56Okay.

1:38:58Wow.

1:39:00This is incredible.

1:39:01Yeah, I don't know how many times I'm gonna need to flip this to get like...

1:39:05I think it should just...

1:39:07Cross it.

1:39:08Oh, nice. Okay, that's tails.

1:39:11Okay.

1:39:11There we go.

1:39:12Okay, so...

1:39:13The bracket.

1:39:14Final.

1:39:15We need to pick a title.

1:39:18No, we did.

1:39:19Oh, we have.

1:39:20Eaten by the Italian Post Office.

1:39:21Eaten by the Italian Post Office.

1:39:22Oh, that one won?

1:39:23Yeah.

1:39:24That's what won.

1:39:24Very well.

1:39:25Very well.

1:39:25Knockout competition.

1:39:27Bravo, James.

1:39:28James.

1:39:28Well done.

1:39:29yep well done Sylvia says she's been withholding this information for a week

1:39:36and now I will get the details soon as we're done I feel like Jason Snell was

1:39:42involved somehow oh so that's why she asked me today how can I listen live oh

1:39:49you should have known something was up oh that's why I had no idea she she was

1:39:56clever because she tricked me she asked me oh you're gonna talk about the

1:40:00pilates segment I want to listen live that's that's that's some waving did she

1:40:06plant the pilates idea in your head well this gets this is multi-layered this is

1:40:10like in such she did not but then she used that coincidence against me mm-hmm

1:40:16Snell helped John Voorhees the triple J strikes again wait who's John for he's

1:40:23involved in this? Yeah. Oh, he's, he's a link to Sylvia. I guess John spoke to Sylvia, right?

1:40:28Yeah. Oh my God. Oh my God. I, you know, I, I was convinced that they were all going to

1:40:34have something to do with something today because I know that they set up a group. An

1:40:39iMessage. Yes. The triple J struck again. The triple J are like the diamond dogs from

1:40:45Ted Lasso in my mind, but in a way that is completely unhelpful to the three of us. And

1:40:50now. They have conspired against us now.

1:40:54Yeah, they're like the evil versions of us.

1:40:58You know how in Mario Kart you have like evil Mario? The triple j is like that. Wow. I have

1:41:07no words.