0:00:00(upbeat music)
0:00:02- Hello and welcome to Connected episode 364.
0:00:11One more away from 365, but one newer than 363.
0:00:17It's how this works.
0:00:19It's made possible by our sponsors,
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0:00:22My name is Stephen Hackett,
0:00:23and I am joined by Mr. Federico Vittucci.
0:00:27Hello and welcome to connected 364.
0:00:29Yes.
0:00:30Which is one number less than 365.
0:00:32I've heard that.
0:00:33Yeah, that's true.
0:00:34Yeah.
0:00:35Yeah.
0:00:35I just realized.
0:00:36Yeah.
0:00:37We're also joined by Myke Early.
0:00:39Hello.
0:00:41In two weeks time, we'll be able to say it's one more than 365.
0:00:44Man, what a system we've created for ourselves.
0:00:48How do we keep up with it?
0:00:49That will be the Leap episode.
0:00:51Oh, because it's 366.
0:00:56Wow.
0:00:57Numbers, right?
0:00:59Man.
0:00:59Well, you know, that's all calendar stuff.
0:01:01We know how much you love that, so...
0:01:02I do love calendars.
0:01:03I got the...
0:01:04Shout out to the old episode of Connected, "Steven for Calendars."
0:01:09An all-time great title from the back catalogue of the show.
0:01:15Man, that was so prophetic.
0:01:18Dude is prompt 56.
0:01:19Wow.
0:01:21Okay.
0:01:21"Steven for Calendars."
0:01:23How long did it take you to actually make a calendar after we prophesized that you would be a calendar?
0:01:27Well, that episode was in 2014, so it took seven years.
0:01:32Man, you need to hurry up with that.
0:01:34Can I read the description for this episode?
0:01:37Yes, please.
0:01:38"Myke, Federico and Steven follow up on Sherlocking and discuss photo management in the light of the upcoming Photos app from Apple."
0:01:45Upcoming Photos app.
0:01:47Sounds about right.
0:01:48Then Myke shares his experience with Android Wear, and the WeeklyPix sound effect gets
0:01:52played for the first time in ages.
0:01:54"WeeklyPix sound effect?"
0:01:56Remember that?
0:01:57We used to pick apps every week.
0:01:59"WeeklyPix!"
0:02:00"WeeklyPix!"
0:02:01What I like is the idea it was called "WeeklyPix," but we hadn't done it in a while.
0:02:05Maybe we should bring it back.
0:02:07Let us know if you want us to bring it back.
0:02:09"WeeklyPix!"
0:02:10"WeeklyPix!"
0:02:11"WeeklyPix!"
0:02:12"Can we do it in Italian?"
0:02:15"Pixa ti manare."
0:02:16Oh man, there's a bunch of broken links in these show notes. It's sad.
0:02:19There's a link called Myke and Hats and it's MykeHats.tumblr.com.
0:02:24Why is that a thing that existed? It's just a bunch of photoshopped images.
0:02:28I think because we were doing Myke chats for a while
0:02:31I was blogging on tumblr about your typos and then somebody made Myke hats.
0:02:36This is incredible.
0:02:39Oh, there's a bunch of images of me wearing
0:02:41Photoshopped hats.
0:02:43No, there's a bunch of images that I've for some reason taken of me wearing a pebble watch or something
0:02:50Like of a color screen
0:02:52Where can I find this? Okay, Myke. This is all in the show notes of this episode my cat
0:02:58Wow
0:03:00Time back then
0:03:01Tallyho Joe
0:03:03So much gold. Oh, I things there's both of you is Mario and Luigi there
0:03:08What's going on? Oh
0:03:11Android where Kate has pointed out? Yeah, I don't remember ever owning an Android where watch
0:03:17Apparently no one does that was something that I did. Oh, there's a link to the potato salad Kickstarter. Do you remember that? Nope? Yeah
0:03:27Okay, just get on with the show now, please I think we've done the best we can do already
0:03:33We started the show with follow-up. Let's talk about what iPhones we ordered because orders went up on Friday
0:03:40I think at least a couple of us ordered something Myke. What did you get exactly what I wanted gold?
0:03:46Actually, that's incorrect what I just said
0:03:49Yeah, you need to explain how you're bad at the Apple Store app. I did it wrong again
0:03:55Well, I think I did it wrong in my mind. I wanted a
0:03:59256 gigabyte
0:04:01Gold 13 Pro Max and I ordered a 512 gigabyte
0:04:06gold 13 Pro Max and I don't remember maybe like I I don't remember I thought I only needed 256
0:04:13but obviously a part of me thought that I needed a 512. I don't know if I need 512 but
0:04:18It's what I have ended up with. Get your phone and look. What do you mean? Look at the storage
0:04:24You're using on your phone now. Oh, no, it's nowhere near enough
0:04:27Like I'm nowhere near the 256 so I don't know why I did any of this stuff, but it's just what I've done
0:04:33I'm using 168 giga...
0:04:36Oh, I have a 512 phone now, why?
0:04:38Why do I have to do this?
0:04:39I'm using 168 gigabytes of storage space on my phone.
0:04:43- So maybe you thought, oh, I can go down
0:04:45because I'm using photos in the cloud or whatever.
0:04:48- But then I didn't.
0:04:49So I have ordered a phone,
0:04:54I'll be picking it up on Friday
0:04:56and I'm very excited about it.
0:04:58- Okay.
0:04:59- We'll talk about iPhone reviews later on in the episode.
0:05:02- Yeah.
0:05:03- Did you order one?
0:05:04- I did, I did the 13 Pro Max
0:05:07and my wife talked me into Sierra Blue.
0:05:09So it's the first time I've had a non,
0:05:12basically black or white phone.
0:05:15- You got a case?
0:05:16- Other than the blue Tenar that I reviewed
0:05:17a couple years ago, which I really liked.
0:05:19- Mm.
0:05:20- So.
0:05:21- What case color did you get?
0:05:22- The Midnight, which is, it came yesterday
0:05:27and it looks like the black leather case
0:05:28in sort of on its own,
0:05:30but when you put it next to the black leather case,
0:05:32it's very clear there's some blue mixed in.
0:05:34Very, very, very dark blue.
0:05:37So I think it's gonna look nice with the Sierra blue.
0:05:39It's kind of a--
0:05:40- It's probably gonna be a good match, yeah.
0:05:41- You know, just blue vibing.
0:05:43- Yeah, I didn't order a case.
0:05:46- You went caseless this year, right?
0:05:48- Yep, survived the entire time.
0:05:50I bought a new PopSocket.
0:05:51- How does that feel?
0:05:52Not to break a phone.
0:05:54- Fantastic.
0:05:55- Weird. - Actually.
0:05:57And also easy.
0:05:59I didn't do anything different.
0:06:01I just used my phone.
0:06:03I feel like one of us is very quiet at the moment.
0:06:06- Are you looking at me?
0:06:09- Yeah.
0:06:09- I'm not looking at you, but I am.
0:06:11- I can see you right now.
0:06:12- Okay, I'm looking at you.
0:06:15- Why?
0:06:16I've done nothing.
0:06:17- Exactly. - Exactly.
0:06:19- Yeah, I just, I kind of want to make fun of you.
0:06:20- I've ordered an iPhone.
0:06:21I've ordered an iPhone. - Have you?
0:06:23- I'm not telling you about it.
0:06:24- No. (laughing)
0:06:27- Why?
0:06:28- You never know.
0:06:29- What do you mean?
0:06:30Yeah, no, 'cause you wanted-- - Have I ordered an iPhone?
0:06:31- Yeah.
0:06:32- I don't know, maybe, I don't know, who knows?
0:06:34I don't know, maybe, I don't know.
0:06:36No, I've not, I'm not, I'm sorry,
0:06:39no, I've not ordered an iPhone.
0:06:42I just didn't have the time for it, man.
0:06:44It's, I was busy.
0:06:47I don't have a new iPhone.
0:06:49I didn't get one.
0:06:52I'm not waiting for one, like I just,
0:06:56this is like when I forgot to pre-order the PS5
0:06:58and then the PS5 came out
0:06:59and I realized I wanted the PS5.
0:07:02- Yeah. - You know?
0:07:03So I called my guy and I got a PS5.
0:07:04- So you're gonna call your guy and get an iPhone, huh?
0:07:06- Yeah, Eddie, I'm gonna call Eddie and say--
0:07:10- I mean, maybe. - My guy, come on.
0:07:11- Who knows, who knows of you?
0:07:12I mean, we're gonna be talking about the iPad Mini
0:07:14that you've had for a few days later on in the episode, so.
0:07:17- Yeah. - Who knows what you end up
0:07:19with these days?
0:07:20- I don't know, I don't even know,
0:07:21but I can tell you that I did not order an iPhone,
0:07:24but if I were to order an iPhone--
0:07:27- Were to? (laughs)
0:07:29- This is what I would order.
0:07:30- If I were to order an iPhone,
0:07:32I would get like the 512 Starlight, maybe?
0:07:37Is there Starlight for the Pro?
0:07:40Pro Max Starlight 512.
0:07:42- Yeah, I think it's actually just silver, but-
0:07:45- Silver?
0:07:46No, then maybe the dark one then.
0:07:48- Yeah, Mary got the Starlight Mini.
0:07:50That's what she opted for with the pink case.
0:07:53- It's so confusing to remember which colors now.
0:07:57They've made it harder to understand.
0:07:59- Yeah, it's the 13 and the watches
0:08:02have like the new names and new colors
0:08:04and the iPad mini and the 13 Pro
0:08:07have the old boring colors.
0:08:08- Yeah, it's Sierra blue, silver, gold, graphite.
0:08:12That's the pro colors.
0:08:13- Sierra blue, okay, so Sierra blue, fake color.
0:08:18Silver, no.
0:08:19Gold and graphite?
0:08:21What's the graphite like?
0:08:23- It's confusing, very confusing.
0:08:27You can indeed turn off ProMotion.
0:08:29We now have this from a reliable source
0:08:31who has had the phone.
0:08:34Dieter Broh at The Verge tweeted,
0:08:36"You can turn off the variable refresh rate,
0:08:38"and that setting is found in accessibility."
0:08:41So there you go.
0:08:42- Yeah, told ya.
0:08:43- Some people were upset that you didn't have
0:08:46public proof of your point,
0:08:47and that we gave you the point anyways.
0:08:48I thought we covered this in the show,
0:08:49that we trusted you and your information,
0:08:53but some people didn't think that was enough.
0:08:55- No, Luca was correct.
0:08:56Luca was correct, so...
0:08:58No, you see, the whole reason behind this is because it wasn't a big claim.
0:09:03It wasn't a big...
0:09:04Like, if you had claimed something completely, like, off the wall,
0:09:09we never would have given you the point.
0:09:12Like, it just wouldn't have happened without the proof.
0:09:14Well, I mean, at this point, though, if I'm saying something with absolute certainty,
0:09:18I like to think that I have, not to say some authority, but, you know,
0:09:23like, I know what I'm talking about.
0:09:25So, if I cannot share public proof, it's because I cannot share public proof.
0:09:30Yeah, but you don't get that anymore, because the rules are going to change.
0:09:33Yeah, sure, sure, but the people who are upset, like, I'm sorry, this is how things work.
0:09:39Worked. They won't work like that anymore. For the Rickies, anyway. You can say whatever you want on Twitter.
0:09:47We'll find a loophole. We'll find a loophole. I'm Italian, I will find a loophole.
0:09:51No, I don't think you understand. There's significant rules to stop loophole.
0:09:56No, I don't think you understand.
0:09:58Well, I am the current reigning champion, so I think I understand something.
0:10:01Oh, here we go.
0:10:03Yeah.
0:10:03Oh, here we go. Okay.
0:10:04Yeah, Federica, do you remember when he wanted to make his own rule to make it easier to hold power?
0:10:09Do you remember that?
0:10:10Yeah, I wanted to make a rule to become a dictator, basically.
0:10:14Yeah.
0:10:14Oh, yeah. I still got my time.
0:10:17Okay.
0:10:17Yeah.
0:10:19Yeah, oh look at that! It's labeled exactly like I told you it was going to be labeled.
0:10:22Thank you Jason Snell in the Discord for pasting a screenshot.
0:10:27So I'm sorry but this is how things work. When I know things I say things and in the future
0:10:33we'll find a loophole. You're incredibly tricky to predict, saying.
0:10:36Wow. Still, you won because of a coin flip. So...
0:10:42Yeah and you got a point because of a technicality.
0:10:45Hey look, at least I lost honestly.
0:10:47No, you can't come in with that. You just lost because you lost. That's just how that works.
0:10:51But I lost with integrity. I'd rather lose with integrity than win by cheating.
0:10:56Who cheated?
0:10:58Both of you.
0:10:59No, nobody cheated.
0:11:00Everyone cheated but me.
0:11:02Because you lost.
0:11:04I mean, the numbers speak for themselves, I think.
0:11:07That you lost?
0:11:08If I hadn't lost, I would have won, but y'all won, so I had to be the loser.
0:11:12That's just how it works.
0:11:14I don't know how I feel about this. I don't like this.
0:11:17this is not good I'm not a fan of this this this reasoning that you're putting
0:11:22forward okay well that's fine can I open that package yet nope no but but you
0:11:28need to text with me Federico every day for him to go to the post office because
0:11:33it's really killing me that that thing's just sitting okay you also need to write
0:11:36for me on my behalf my section for Mac stories weekly okay okay you know what
0:11:43okay yeah do you okay so you can you can write what I will write for you no no
0:11:50no you have to write like me oh that's easy you do it it's me
0:11:56sure sure what else fantasy okay that's all that's all oh I reviewed an iPad
0:12:09mini by hacking a Nintendo ROM onto it. Okay, so this is like a whole tag cloud
0:12:15that you have for me. So like keywords that make me... It's more of a mood board to be honest.
0:12:22A mood board, okay. A Federica mood board. I love it. Federica mood board. Pasta, espresso, iPads, Final Fantasy,
0:12:31Nintendo ROM, what else? Nintendo ROM, what else could we get in there?
0:12:37Zelda, there are some obvious candidates in the tech. Good boys beach. Oh the dogs.
0:12:46Snakes. Wait what? Snakes in the ISP. General internet problems. General, my ISP
0:12:55is down. On fire. Yeah. That's another, that's another old, old reference.
0:13:00Catherine says Metroid Prime.
0:13:03Yes.
0:13:04Metroid Prime's good.
0:13:05Anything Pokemon related.
0:13:08Competitive Pokemon.
0:13:10I mean, you're just thinking of video games though.
0:13:11Like you're not.
0:13:12All right.
0:13:13Yeah, but I mean, that's your thing, you know?
0:13:15That's my deal.
0:13:17That's a big part of you.
0:13:18Yeah, what's your deal, Federico?
0:13:20What's your deal?
0:13:21What is your deal?
0:13:22DAX.
0:13:23Yeah.
0:13:24DAX.
0:13:25Oh yeah, headphones.
0:13:26Just like look at my headphones.
0:13:27Oh, I have more headphones.
0:13:29Have you seen my headphones?
0:13:31These are my new headphones.
0:13:33Hey, look at these headphones.
0:13:34These are all individual things.
0:13:36I've got a cable.
0:13:37Do you wanna see the cable?
0:13:38- Okay.
0:13:39- I like the Echo now.
0:13:40I like Siri now.
0:13:42I like the Echo now.
0:13:44- I have nine home pods.
0:13:45I have no home pods.
0:13:47(laughing)
0:13:48- I have all the home pods.
0:13:50- I prank my mother who loves me
0:13:52more than anything in the world.
0:13:53- Does she?
0:13:54Okay.
0:13:55Moving on.
0:13:58- Let's talk about St. Jude.
0:14:00- Yeah.
0:14:01- Great idea.
0:14:02- I'm gonna read you a number right now.
0:14:05And I want y'all's reaction to this number.
0:14:07You ready?
0:14:08- Okay.
0:14:09- $527,227.64.
0:14:14- Well.
0:14:15- That's what the Relay FM community has raised
0:14:17for St. Jude this far into September.
0:14:21And we still got over a week to go.
0:14:23- I feel like it could be more.
0:14:24- This is what I was gonna say.
0:14:26It's incredible, but come on.
0:14:28We could do more, right? We could do more.
0:14:30- What's this? Five, two, seven, two, two, come on.
0:14:34- You know, my dad said that we would hit 600
0:14:36and I told him I didn't think that was possible
0:14:38and you know, prove him right is what I'm saying.
0:14:41- Oh, I don't know about that.
0:14:42I don't know about 600.
0:14:43- He's a dreamer, you know.
0:14:45- We've only got eight days left.
0:14:47That's a lot of money.
0:14:48That's 10 grand a day.
0:14:49- Yeah, but there's a lot of people out there.
0:14:50I know how many people have donated.
0:14:51I don't know how many people listen to our shows.
0:14:53- That's true.
0:14:54- There's a lot of y'all who haven't donated yet
0:14:56And look, you don't have to donate $26,000
0:14:59like 1Password did.
0:15:00I certainly can't donate that.
0:15:02I know hardly anyone who can.
0:15:04But 10 bucks, 20 bucks, 50 bucks, 100 bucks,
0:15:07getting your company to match it to double your money
0:15:10for free just with an email.
0:15:12There's lots of things you can do
0:15:14to get involved in this campaign.
0:15:16And there's still time, stjude.org/relay
0:15:19is where you wanna go to do that.
0:15:21It's where you wanna go.
0:15:22The podcast-a-thon is live on YouTube.
0:15:26So, you know, settle in for a cool eight hours
0:15:28with your buddies and watch that.
0:15:31I will just say that I got the CEO of Halsack,
0:15:33which is St. Jude's fundraising organization.
0:15:35I got him to do something that I don't think anyone
0:15:37thought I was gonna ask him to do and he did it, so.
0:15:39- A very important person.
0:15:42- Yes.
0:15:42- Fate smiled on us perfectly.
0:15:45- Yes.
0:15:45- We got him to perform an act of barber-y,
0:15:50would that be it?
0:15:51- Computer aggression.
0:15:52- Computer aggression.
0:15:53- It involved safety goggles,
0:15:55which they made me hand him.
0:15:56- Yeah.
0:15:57- So you can check that out.
0:15:59But I mean, seriously, there's still lots of time left.
0:16:02Please go donate if you haven't.
0:16:04If you have donated and you wanna donate again
0:16:06because you feel guilty about buying an iPad mini
0:16:08and a new phone, you should go do that.
0:16:11And the reason we do all of this
0:16:12is because St. Jude treats kids with cancer,
0:16:15including my oldest son,
0:16:17with the best treatment on the planet
0:16:19and they do it without charging the families a single thing.
0:16:23Nothing. So nothing for treatment, nothing for scans, nothing for doctors visits, nothing for physical therapy, nothing for if you need a brace or dentistry work or an eye doctor.
0:16:37All of that stuff is all paid for. Food is paid for. Travel is paid for. And it's because people like you all donate every year.
0:16:46And so you should go get on board with that.
0:16:49It's a real honor and a privilege, truly,
0:16:51to be able to talk about this and do it.
0:16:54But we still got eight days left,
0:16:55so we wanna keep seeing that number go up.
0:16:59Myke, this may be a good time to tell people
0:17:00what we're gonna do on Sunday,
0:17:01because we unlocked a stream way back at $325,000
0:17:06that we are going to do this weekend.
0:17:09- So this Sunday at noon Eastern, noon US Eastern time,
0:17:14I'm going to be opening up a video iPod and replacing the battery and the hard
0:17:25drive at flash drive with an SSD. Yeah it has a hard drive now yeah and we're
0:17:30gonna put a an SD card in it. That's what I meant I said SSD I meant SD. I've
0:17:35never done anything like this before so Steven's gonna talk me through it. I have
0:17:41all the tools. You know it's not a keyboard right? You know it's not a
0:17:44keyboard. I, well I hoped it might be but I don't think it is so that's that's why
0:17:49I need Steven's help if it was a keyboard I don't need no one's help but if it's if
0:17:54it's not a keyboard I need to help. Look at me I'm Mr. Keyboard. I'm Mr. Keyboard Mr. Big
0:17:58Keyboard over here. Let's do a mood board for Myke okay it's okay keyboards
0:18:02keyboards colors stickers beard products I don't really do stickers anymore
0:18:09except my desk. Have you seen your desk? Yeah but that was a challenge. Caramel macchiato with extra foam or something.
0:18:18I did have yesterday I had Starbucks ice latte. I had a caramel and maple sugar latte from Starbucks.
0:18:27It was ridiculous. Uh-huh. F1. Nintendo Switch docked on the television. Because he has weak hands. Weak boy hands.
0:18:36- Week boy hands.
0:18:38- Pants, pants, pants.
0:18:40- Pens, watches.
0:18:42- Watches.
0:18:42- But really an Apple Watch that he's ashamed of.
0:18:45- Public transit.
0:18:47Takes the train, takes the trains.
0:18:49(laughing)
0:18:51- Public transit?
0:18:54I don't care about public transit.
0:18:56I just need it.
0:18:57- No, you take, you love the train, man.
0:19:00We all know.
0:19:01- Do I?
0:19:02It's like saying food.
0:19:04- Oyster card.
0:19:05- That's also a thing. - Yeah, there you go.
0:19:07- Yeah, that same wallpaper you use on all your devices.
0:19:09- Yes, oh, messy wallpapers, messy wallpapers
0:19:12where you cannot read the labels of the icons.
0:19:16What else?
0:19:17- Multiple task apps on your home screen.
0:19:20- Multiple task apps listening
0:19:23to the same music albums over and over.
0:19:26- That's almost anybody our age.
0:19:28I don't think that's unique to Myke.
0:19:30- Yeah.
0:19:31- Oh, he listens to music that was cool in high school.
0:19:33Yeah, we all do.
0:19:35Yeah, it's difficult to be like, I have a group chat with Federico and John.
0:19:39Of course you do.
0:19:40We mostly talk about video games.
0:19:41Look, because you don't care, all right?
0:19:43Yeah, it's called the Switchers, right?
0:19:45I know it.
0:19:46I've seen it in screenshots.
0:19:47I know I'm not in it.
0:19:48Yeah, that exists.
0:19:49And every now and then there's music recommendations in there too.
0:19:51And Federico and John are very like, they listen to lots of new music.
0:19:55And I'm just like, "Hey, have you heard this Tai-Tai Joe album from four years ago?
0:19:59I think it's really good."
0:20:00Yeah, I don't listen to new music either.
0:20:02Scott Pilgrim. That's good. Yep. Company tattoos. We've got two of those. That's true. I'm a
0:20:09company tattoo boy. Can we do Steven now? Oh, Steven. Okay. Computers. Old computers.
0:20:16Calendars. Breaking devices. Lots of children. Accidents. Just general accidents to himself
0:20:24and things he owns. Anything can be broken. Hang on. We need to be really clear that you're
0:20:28separating having multiple children accidents we need to separate those two
0:20:33things just like just hey I don't know just separate those two things yeah I
0:20:36mean I mean you do you it's you know yeah yeah whatever you think man it's
0:20:40fine yeah yeah wheels just south yes south south the southern things anything
0:20:50Oh yes. All the intolerances. Gluten, you know, that's it. Gluten. Dairy. Dairy. Dairy. Just like all food really.
0:21:01What else screams of Steven? Having a mustache once a year? Mustache once a year, but desperately wants to keep it, but no one will let him.
0:21:11Yeah. I don't know, when I think of Steven, I think of bathtub. You take a lot of baths.
0:21:17Steven loves a bath. I mean, he loves to tell you.
0:21:19Yeah.
0:21:20He loves to tell you when he's had a bath.
0:21:22Yep. Sometimes I'll just text you, I'll be like, "Hey, I'm in the bath thinking about y'all."
0:21:25He loves to tell you during the bath.
0:21:27Yeah.
0:21:28I'm in the tub, Kindle in the tub, iPhone.
0:21:30I bet the iPad mini is going to be a big tub computer for Steven.
0:21:33It's a big tub computer for sure.
0:21:35Mm-hmm.
0:21:36Have we taken a break yet?
0:21:38No.
0:21:39Oh boy. Settle in, I guess.
0:21:41What else? We're not done with Steven yet, though.
0:21:44Flip-flop. Flip-flop.
0:21:46That's for cutie. Big flip-flop of milk and the remembering of it.
0:21:52Mm-hmm. Yes. Except can't consume it but loves to remember it. There's a big one that
0:21:56y'all haven't mentioned that the livestream chat mentioned. No IKEA.
0:22:00That's a good one. Too good for Calax. Yeah. That's one. Yeah. Dad jokes. We're gonna
0:22:08put your mood board on a Calax. See what you think of that. Put it on a calendar,
0:22:13hang out on a cow, Anx.
0:22:15Dog cow is a good one.
0:22:18I think that's it.
0:22:20I think you're roasted now.
0:22:21Oh, K-BASE.
0:22:23Oh yeah, K-BASE.
0:22:24Yeah, yeah.
0:22:26K-BASE, K-BASE of the week, baby.
0:22:28Yeah.
0:22:29I can't believe you still do that.
0:22:31Yeah, I can tell you how many I've done.
0:22:33Give me a second.
0:22:34It's like, oh, Devin Think.
0:22:36Devin Think is also on the mood board.
0:22:38I'm opening Devin Think to tell you
0:22:39'cause I pulled them all into a group.
0:22:43that I search because sometimes I think, "Have I posted this before?"
0:22:47and usually the answer is yes.
0:22:48You've definitely done it multiple times, but you know what though, Stephen?
0:22:52Hmm?
0:22:52Only you know.
0:22:54Yeah, no one else knows.
0:22:55You could have just the same 52 and you just post them, like,
0:22:59once a week every year and see how long it would last before someone would recognize.
0:23:03It's 309.
0:23:05You posted 309...
0:23:07Wait, so how many years is that?
0:23:08Yeah.
0:23:09That's almost six years.
0:23:12I mean that's a thing you've done there.
0:23:13I know, you know, nothing if not consistent.
0:23:15Yep.
0:23:16Mostly with my hair style and facial hair.
0:23:19You are not consistent with your facial hair.
0:23:22Get out of town or your hairstyle.
0:23:25I got a little breaking news.
0:23:26I made a promise on the podcast-a-thon,
0:23:28the hair thing reminded me of it.
0:23:30I made a promise on the podcast-a-thon
0:23:31that I was going to up the ante for the shave or save.
0:23:35Oh my god, I meant to ask you about that.
0:23:38And I didn't.
0:23:38I just--
0:23:39You never revealed it.
0:23:40I just forgot about it.
0:23:41Like it wasn't me hiding it, it was just like, I mean,
0:23:44look, at the end of eight hours,
0:23:46you're lucky to remember your own name,
0:23:48let alone something you said on the air four hours before.
0:23:52So we're doing this thing, save or shave.
0:23:56If you donate now, you can go vote.
0:24:00And right now, save the mustaches winning like two to one,
0:24:05because it should.
0:24:06- It's the best, then it should be saved.
0:24:07John just texted me another thing for Steven Smoothboard.
0:24:12He just sent me a message that says, "Trucks."
0:24:15Yeah, I feel like that could have been like,
0:24:20South bracket trucks, you know?
0:24:22Like, I feel like that kind of went together.
0:24:24I ordered a tool to fix something on my truck
0:24:26just this morning.
0:24:27I just got a DM from Jason that said,
0:24:28"Trucks and KVase hack it."
0:24:30So, everyone except me in Federico
0:24:33knows you as Truck Boy, I guess.
0:24:35Big Truck Boy.
0:24:37Big truck boy.
0:24:38- We ready to move on?
0:24:40- No, you never said it.
0:24:42- It's like 8 p.m. - You never said the thing.
0:24:44What are you upping the ante to?
0:24:50- So for the last three years, we've done Save or Shave,
0:24:53where I grew my beard out for a while
0:24:54before the podcast-a-thon, and then I shave it off
0:24:57and to a mustache.
0:24:59I think I wanna keep that going, 'cause I think that's fun.
0:25:03But there was an idea for the podcast-a-thon in 2020
0:25:07that we couldn't do because of COVID.
0:25:10And I thought, you know what?
0:25:12If we get to do it in person next year,
0:25:17and I really think we'll be able to,
0:25:18we could come back to this idea.
0:25:20And the idea was that instead of just shaving the beard,
0:25:25that I would also go for quite a long time
0:25:28without cutting my hair.
0:25:30Maybe a year, maybe from the podcast-a-thon,
0:25:33and then we have a barber come in,
0:25:35and like give me varying hairstyles as the day goes on.
0:25:38- Or me.
0:25:39- Or someone who knows what they're doing.
0:25:42- You gotta do the whole professional,
0:25:45like vintage barber stuff, you know, with the warm cloth.
0:25:50- Yeah.
0:25:50- Yeah, yeah, and everything, and the music.
0:25:53- That's how I, that's what I do.
0:25:54That's, well, not me personally,
0:25:56but I have all that stuff done.
0:25:58- Myke gets to pick the hairstyles, Matt says.
0:26:00James says "goodness, I thought he was getting shaved more" yes.
0:26:02Although the problem with that is the time that it takes to cut hair.
0:26:06Yeah but if we're both in person...
0:26:07Takes a long time.
0:26:08You know, like we can...
0:26:10You'll just be in the barber chair the whole time.
0:26:12Yeah. I don't know, we're just gonna think about it.
0:26:15I do like the idea of doing something with your hair, so growing your hair out for an entire year would be an interesting thing to see how that ends up next year.
0:26:23Live tattoo could be fun, I'm just saying.
0:26:27Wow.
0:26:28Live tattoo.
0:26:29- Not sure I could get them to agree to that happening.
0:26:33- It could be fun.
0:26:34- I just wanna up the ante.
0:26:35So maybe it's hair, maybe it's something else.
0:26:37You know, let us know.
0:26:38I'm leaning towards hair.
0:26:40- I think you should grow your hair out
0:26:41and see what we do.
0:26:42- So as long as it was during the quarantine,
0:26:45like you know, in 2020, that was about six months.
0:26:49So if you go back and look at my old videos,
0:26:52that was about six months and it was pretty long.
0:26:54So a year it's gonna be like,
0:26:56it's gonna be ponytail time, so.
0:26:59I look forward to seeing what you do with it.
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0:28:30iPhone reviews.
0:28:32They're in.
0:28:33Are out.
0:28:34They're in, they're out, they're all around.
0:28:36They're in, they're out, shake it all about.
0:28:39So the iPhone reviews are out.
0:28:41I've just basically this year consumed video reviews only.
0:28:46I haven't read any written reviews yet because I've been reading other reviews, mostly by
0:28:51Federico.
0:28:52Have you?
0:28:53Yes.
0:28:54I know I'm working my way through. I have made a personal pledge this year to read the entire iOS 15 review
0:29:02Because because you made it shorter
0:29:05Which is what I wanted so I could read it all and I'm like hot and nearly halfway through now
0:29:10And I'm gonna make it even shorter next year. I can tell you that, you know
0:29:15I've written a couple of a couple of haikus
0:29:18Maybe you get your iowa 16 review all the way down to a into a haiku
0:29:22Now that would be incredible, especially if you worked on it for three months.
0:29:26Can you imagine?
0:29:28Haiku generator. So Myke you go on with the iPhone 13. I'm gonna make a Haiku for Steven.
0:29:33All right, awesome. So the colors of the iPhone 13 overall seem nicer than the iPhone 13 Pro.
0:29:40I think we already knew that though.
0:29:42But it's like, there's just the saturation of the iPhone 13 colors, like the blue, the iPhone 13 blue
0:29:49It's just so much better than the Sierra blue in my opinion.
0:29:51The same goes for the Midnight.
0:29:53Just looks way better than the Graphite.
0:29:55Like, the colors are just better.
0:29:57And it is, you know, this is overplayed now.
0:30:01We've said it on this show, like, 20 times already
0:30:03in the last three weeks.
0:30:05I don't know why Apple refused to put cool colors
0:30:08on the Pro lines.
0:30:09Like, they just keep things really, like, muted
0:30:12and I don't get it.
0:30:14I didn't know this, like, that the phones
0:30:16were a little bit thicker and heavier.
0:30:18and apparently this is battery related and probably camera related too.
0:30:22A trade-off I'm fine with. Like, okay, I mean, I think you're gonna get to this in a second,
0:30:28but all these reviews talk about how bonkers the battery life is. It's like, okay, if my phone is,
0:30:33you know, half a millimeter thick or whatever it is, and a little bit heavier in my pocket,
0:30:39like, but I get an extra two hours of battery life, like, okay, I'm fine with that.
0:30:44I'm into it. Like, two and a half hours extra battery life on a phone that has more than
0:30:49enough battery life already, which is the Pro Max, like, yeah, I'll take it. Like, give me that.
0:30:53The smaller notch hasn't changed anything UI-wise at all, which is, people keep saying they want the
0:31:00battery percentage. I don't care about the battery percentage. I used to, I don't anymore. I mean,
0:31:04they're so good. It doesn't bother me anymore. Federico, do you care about the battery percentage?
0:31:08No, I always keep it turned off. Do you know what? I think this is a thing about
0:31:13without having the big fun.
0:31:16Like if I had an iPhone mini,
0:31:17I would probably really care about the battery percentage.
0:31:19- Exactly, yes, I agree.
0:31:20- But now I'm kind of just like,
0:31:22if I ever need to know, I just look in Control Center,
0:31:25but it's very rare that I need to know
0:31:27because my battery will always last me all day
0:31:29and the only time I ever need to know my battery percentage,
0:31:32my phone tells me, "Hey, you're 20%,"
0:31:34and then I go into low power mode.
0:31:37Big, the camera bumps big.
0:31:39It's big, it's real big.
0:31:41It's like half the phone now
0:31:43And I just don't know if it can get big.
0:31:46I feel like it can't get any bigger, right?
0:31:48Like I feel like...
0:31:50Just do the Pixel 6 thing and just have a bar across the whole thing.
0:31:54The camera bump is so big it should pay taxes.
0:31:56I mean it's...
0:31:57Hey-oh!
0:31:58Look at this guy over here.
0:32:00We got some Apple-related stand-up going on.
0:32:05I actually think, like, looking at it, it looks like it goes further than halfway.
0:32:10Like looking at the images.
0:32:11Tim Cook!
0:32:12More like Tim Crook!
0:32:13-Right. -Wow.
0:32:14By the way, according to this website,
0:32:17write@haiku.com, I have it.
0:32:19-Okay? -Okay, then please give it.
0:32:21Wait, what is this of?
0:32:23This is iOS 15?
0:32:25-iOS 15, yes. -All right.
0:32:27So this is my new review.
0:32:29iOS 15, not so big.
0:32:31Changes in apps, not design.
0:32:34Maybe more next year.
0:32:35Oh.
0:32:37-That's it? -That's so good.
0:32:39Who needs any more than that, really?
0:32:41I mean, I could have done this years ago and saved me the trouble.
0:32:46iOS 15, not so big.
0:32:47Not so big.
0:32:48Changes in apps, not design. Maybe more next year.
0:32:51That's the best part. It's kind of sad at the end.
0:32:54Maybe.
0:32:54Maybe next year. I don't know.
0:32:57I like the commas. I like the commas I enjoy. Not so big.
0:33:01Not so big.
0:33:03Yeah, I'm a poet now.
0:33:05The keyboard bump. I don't have these phones in hand. I'm not a reviewer, but...
0:33:09Keyboard bump.
0:33:11I mean, the keyboard bump, not so big.
0:33:19The camera bump.
0:33:21So just looking at like the 12 mini case that came from my wife's, the 13 mini case that
0:33:25came from my wife's phone that I pick up on Friday, it's a lot bigger.
0:33:29Now on the Pro Max, it's not that much bigger, but I think on the non-Pro phones, it's going
0:33:34to be a more noticeable jump in terms of camera bulk.
0:33:40I mean it doesn't bother me really but like it's just interesting and I can't
0:33:45it's more just a thing of like I just can't imagine how it could like it
0:33:50realistically could be bigger than this but I guess we'll find out next year but
0:33:54the camera I mean but really though it seems like it was worth it because the
0:33:58ultra wide looks way better the macro photos look amazing I can't wait to play
0:34:02around with that some reviewers were saying that at the moment it's not great
0:34:07because there's actually no macro mode like in the iPhone is just switching
0:34:12itself but Apple have already said that they're gonna add this probably with
0:34:1615.1 but they said with an upcoming software update so you will be able to
0:34:19like manually switch into macro whether that's gonna be like a macro mode or
0:34:25maybe it's like another one of the buttons with the like the 0.53x that
0:34:30kind of thing yeah so we'll see low-light photos apparently a much
0:34:35better night mode is sharper. The thing I am most excited about in the camera
0:34:39which I don't think many people will be like I am is photo profiles so this is
0:34:45where you are able to actually tweak the images that are being taken based on and
0:34:51still take advantage of a lot of the stuff that Apple is doing with their
0:34:55image processing but you can like for example change the way that the camera
0:35:00takes images so they're more saturated or higher contrast and you have some
0:35:05level of tweaking that you can do with that. Now, when I take pictures of, say, I like,
0:35:13when I travel places, I like to take pictures of buildings. This could have been in my mode
0:35:18board. Takes pictures of buildings. I have like a very specific way that I like those
0:35:22images to look and being able to get part of the way there in the camera, that excites
0:35:30Like being able to like increase you know the saturation of an image before
0:35:36I've even taken the image so I can see it in the viewfinder. That is something
0:35:40that I'm pretty excited about and I like that if you make tweaks saves them and
0:35:44you can just choose if you want regular or to use a photo profile. So I think
0:35:49this is an awesome feature that I'm really actually excited to play around
0:35:52with. I thought it was interesting in the in the Verge reviews kind of the way
0:35:56they put it was like some people like the way the iPhone looks. A lot of people
0:36:00including me, also really like the way the Pixel camera looks and others like
0:36:04what Samsung does. And the way they kind of put it was now you can make
0:36:08your iPhone take pictures that are more like those other cameras, those
0:36:13other phones, because all these have some sort of opinion in them. Apple says they
0:36:17want to be as lifelike as possible. Samsung wants nice punchy colors. The
0:36:22Pixel is kind of like moody in a fun way. And yeah, I think it's gonna be
0:36:27gonna be fun. There are some limitations, right? It bakes it into the
0:36:30image, which I understand why, based on how it works. Apple's like, "It's not a
0:36:36filter, the Internet's like, it's a filter!" It seems like how it actually works is
0:36:40it is tweaking those things in the pipeline and still applying things like
0:36:45"a sky should look like a sky," "a face should look like a face," you know, trying to
0:36:49balance it all out for you. So I agree with you. I'm looking forward to playing
0:36:52with this and I think that their methodology of set it and new camera just works this way.
0:37:01That's really really interesting to me that you can change all of your...
0:37:06It doesn't feel very appley really.
0:37:09It doesn't, it doesn't right?
0:37:11It's like you're changing how your phone works and I think that's very interesting.
0:37:15It kind of feels like, oh don't worry we will help you take the good photos, you don't know.
0:37:20a couple of years ago, the controversy for capture outside the frame.
0:37:25Oh yeah.
0:37:26It reminds me of that.
0:37:28Like the phone is doing things on my behalf and I don't exactly have control over it and
0:37:35it kind of feels strange.
0:37:36In fact, the following year they tweaked that option and I think it's gone now.
0:37:42I think they changed it.
0:37:44We had a whole episode on this show about capture outside the frame and we still didn't
0:37:50managed to quite explain it with the iPhone 11. It's incredibly confusing. What was the
0:37:55thing that turned it off? A setting? No, but there was like if you if you decide if you
0:38:00used your phone or something. Video, maybe. No, no, no, it was if you turned on the sweater
0:38:05mode, right? It was something like that. If you turned on, what was it, what was that
0:38:10actually called? Deep Fusion. Deep Fusion. I forget what it was. There was something
0:38:14that if you if you turned it one setting on it meant you couldn't use capture outside
0:38:20the frame anymore.
0:38:21Yeah, the Discord will catch up with us.
0:38:23They say I'm right.
0:38:24Oh, you know what it was?
0:38:25Sorry, it was if you had capture outside the frame on, Deep Fusion wouldn't work.
0:38:32That's right.
0:38:33The opposite way around.
0:38:34You're right.
0:38:35Yes, there you go.
0:38:36And you could only use Deep Fusion if you turned off capture outside the frame.
0:38:40That's right.
0:38:41Which just like conceptually makes no frickin' sense why these two things fight against each
0:38:47other.
0:38:48Exactly.
0:38:49So the settings have been changed. So if you go to Settings > Camera, in the composition section,
0:38:55it's now called "View Outside the Frame", which I'm not really sure what it does.
0:39:00Like, it went from Capture to View Outside the Frame.
0:39:04Maybe that's just, you know, like sometimes...
0:39:06The little preview that you get.
0:39:08Yeah, the camera UI goes away to kind of show you if you use the ultra-wide here,
0:39:15it will give you this different type of thing.
0:39:18But yeah, the cinematic mode for me feels like the first pro feature that I feel like
0:39:26I could approach.
0:39:29Because all of the raw stuff is too confusing for me, but I feel like it's part of the way
0:39:34there.
0:39:35It's being able to manipulate the data that the camera is taking in, in a way that seems
0:39:43simple and that I could take advantage of.
0:39:46Yeah, pro-raw and that kind of stuff.
0:39:48It's just too confusing for me
0:39:49and I don't really know what I'm doing with it,
0:39:51but I do have an idea for how I want images to look
0:39:54at the apps like VSCO
0:39:55and even Apple's photo editing tools can help me do.
0:39:58I like the idea of being able to go part of the way
0:40:02towards the look that I'm after
0:40:04in the viewfinder of the camera.
0:40:06That is pretty exciting to me, honestly.
0:40:09- And that feels like Apple flexing its silicon
0:40:11a little bit of like,
0:40:12we don't have to do this afterwards.
0:40:14you were looking through the viewfinder in real time
0:40:17and we're doing this just as you point your camera around.
0:40:20Seems like a pretty intensive thing.
0:40:23I think it's pretty cool.
0:40:24- Yeah, it's an A15 feature only for that reason.
0:40:28Cinematic mode, this is portrait mode, right?
0:40:32Like in the sense of like, you can use it,
0:40:35it's kind of janky,
0:40:36it's probably gonna get better in the future.
0:40:38Like it just, I mean, it is portrait mode for video
0:40:40in a way with some more cool stuff,
0:40:43But like portrait mode originally was like,
0:40:46okay, there's a bunch of problems with this,
0:40:48but you can kind of see it and it might get better.
0:40:50And at this point, portrait mode is fine, right?
0:40:53Like we know the issues that remain of it.
0:40:55Like if you wear glasses, it will cut your glasses off.
0:40:58But portrait mode is just like, I use it now, it works.
0:41:03And you can get really great images out of it.
0:41:05I expect cinematic mode is gonna be the same.
0:41:08You know, some reviewers said it's fun.
0:41:09Some reviewers say this is useless.
0:41:12I'm going to take a bunch of video with it when I get my phone because I want to play
0:41:16around with the editing afterwards because that seems kind of fun.
0:41:20But it's also like, you know, it's restrained to 1080p, all that kind of stuff.
0:41:23Like it's definitely a 1.0.
0:41:28And it's funny really because it feels like this would have been the feature that's like
0:41:31coming later, you know, like they always have like one of those features is like coming
0:41:34later but cinematic mode is here.
0:41:38Promotion is apparently amazing.
0:41:40I can't wait.
0:41:41I stand by the fact that this is going to be the thing that people are going to be like,
0:41:45"Oh yeah, this is why you want that phone."
0:41:47And we can't really talk about it until lots of people have it, or you can go into a store
0:41:53and look at it because no YouTube video can show you the experience of it.
0:41:58And I'm just convinced that it's going to look so good and it's going to be much better
0:42:03than a larger screen because it just tends to work better on a smaller screen.
0:42:08I'm convinced it's going to be better than any Android phone because Apple scrolling
0:42:12was already so good.
0:42:13So I'm so excited for this.
0:42:16I'm super pumped for this phone.
0:42:19I'm really into it.
0:42:22It's got a couple of features to it that I'm very, very excited about.
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0:43:57So Federico, as soon as you published your iOS 15 review, the big one, not the Haiku,
0:44:03you immediately had to get to work on an iPad mini review.
0:44:07- Yes, that's how it went.
0:44:09So as I was wrapping up my iOS and iPadOS 15 review
0:44:14last week, I was editing the review last week
0:44:18and then I got an iPad mini.
0:44:20I got a nice box from Apple with an iPad mini,
0:44:23a new base model iPad, an Apple Pencil second generation,
0:44:29an Apple Pencil first generation,
0:44:30SmartKey portfolio and a 5G SIM card and also a purple Smart portfolio for the
0:44:36iPad mini. You've been spending a lot of time with the new iPad? Yeah, yeah, in fact
0:44:42I actually unboxed it today so yeah I literally did not remove it from the box
0:44:49so I realized that obviously time-wise I would have to just focus on one of them
0:44:57and it was pretty clear that I was gonna write about the iPad mini because it was
0:45:01the device that I think a lot of people were expecting, I know that a lot of our
0:45:04readers were looking forward to that, and I know that I was also looking forward
0:45:09to that myself because I've been waiting for this iPad mini, right? We've been
0:45:12talking about it, like, imagine when we're gonna get an iPad mini that looks like
0:45:16an iPad Pro, and like, it was one of, like, I was actually anticipating this iPad
0:45:22meaning more than an iPhone 13, honestly. Just because I'm also like, I'm gonna use
0:45:28this a lot. And so, yeah, so basically what I did was I received this Thursday morning,
0:45:35not Friday, as some people said on Twitter, I got it on Thursday morning and I got to
0:45:41work immediately. And so what I would do was I was gonna edit the review during the day
0:45:48the big iPad Pro, and then at night I would read my own review on the iPad
0:45:52Mini. And I tried to, you know, relax, play some games on the iPad Mini as well, but
0:45:58you know, not so long because I also needed to finish the review. And
0:46:05then I wrote the introduction of the iPad Mini review on Sunday? Monday? And
0:46:13And then the whole thing yesterday, basically.
0:46:16I'm pretty happy with it.
0:46:17It's one of those easy reviews, right?
0:46:20I knew what I was gonna say.
0:46:22I had an idea of what this iPad was gonna look like.
0:46:27I knew the sort of angles that I wanted to take,
0:46:29which is I don't have time to do,
0:46:30and also I think it's kind of boring
0:46:32to do like a tech specs review.
0:46:33Oh, this iPad mini, the battery life.
0:46:36Nobody cares about this.
0:46:37I mean, not that nobody cares,
0:46:38but it's not how I like to write.
0:46:41What I wanted to write was--
0:46:41Talking about Battery Life.
0:46:44Exactly. Or the A15 and the bind chip, whatever. It's fine. It opens Safari, it opens books,
0:46:51and you can watch YouTube and play games. Done. What I wanted to write was about the
0:46:55experience of like, okay, so a small iPad. What kind of, first of all, like, my question
0:47:01was, what kind of person are you, reading this review? Are you a Mac user? Are you an
0:47:07an iPad Pro user like myself, do have an iPhone? I assume you do. Where does this iPad Mini
0:47:15fall in the lineup for you, and what sort of role does it fill? What's the purpose of
0:47:24this small device? And the limitations that it has, do they have an impact on what I was
0:47:31planning to do with this iPad Mini? So that was my angle. Take the iPad Mini and write
0:47:36about why would I want to use this instead of the iPad Air, why would I want to use this
0:47:41instead of my iPhone, how does it compare to the big iPad Pro, the M1 with the XDR display,
0:47:48and how does it compare to the old iPad Mini. So that was my angle. And then a bunch of
0:47:52like miscellaneous thoughts at the end, like I always do. So that was my approach.
0:47:57I think it's the right approach. I feel like you said we kind of knew what this iPad was
0:48:02going to be, right?
0:48:04A small iPad Pro or a small iPad Air.
0:48:07What it made me think of is, you know,
0:48:09back in the day, the iPad Air and the iPad Mini,
0:48:14for a while, were basically the same.
0:48:16Just choose your size.
0:48:18I think that was in the iPad Air 2 era, maybe.
0:48:20And over time, they've drifted apart.
0:48:22But the thing that excites me about it,
0:48:24and I pre-ordered one, it'll get here on Friday,
0:48:27is the way you talk about it kind of fitting in places
0:48:32that the big iPad doesn't.
0:48:36And I wonder if you could maybe talk a little bit
0:48:38about where those places are for you.
0:48:40- The obvious one was reading books,
0:48:43reading articles in Safari, that sort of stuff.
0:48:46And I mean, you can do that with the big iPad Pro, right?
0:48:50The big iPad Pro is still a tablet.
0:48:52You can still take it out of the Magic Keyboard
0:48:53and you can use it as a tablet.
0:48:55You cannot hold it with one hand.
0:48:58I don't know, maybe Android Giant maybe could have held
0:49:00the big iPad Pro with one hand, but I cannot do that.
0:49:04I like to use my iPad Pro as a tablet,
0:49:07but usually I just place it on my lap
0:49:10when I'm sitting on the sofa or something
0:49:12and I'm just using the iPad Pro as a tablet.
0:49:15But when I wanna read something in portrait mode,
0:49:18that's a big and large iPad.
0:49:20And that was sort of the first problem that I identified
0:49:23and sort of... obviously the iPad Mini is a much better device for this, because it's
0:49:27super lightweight, right? It's kind of strange when you think about it, how it weighs 70
0:49:34grams more than an iPhone 12 Pro Max. And as I also wrote in the review, I like to use
0:49:40the iPad Mini when, usually when I'm in bed and I want to read something before I go to
0:49:44sleep, I hold the iPad Mini without a case on, because I don't like how floppy the smart
0:49:49is in the back. I'm not a fan of like how it moves around and it jiggles
0:49:56around, so I just take it out of the case and I just hold the iPad Mini. But I never
0:50:01remove the case from my iPhone, and so if you consider how I always use
0:50:07the 12 Pro Max with a leather case on, the weight difference goes down to 40
0:50:11grams between the iPhone 12 Pro Max and the iPad Mini. And additionally,
0:50:17The 12 Pro Max, because of the weight distribution in the device, it feels like this little dense
0:50:24brick that you're holding.
0:50:26And even though the iPad Mini is technically heavier than the iPhone, it feels lighter
0:50:32because of how the weight is distributed across the iPad Mini.
0:50:35So it's nice to hold and use, and it's super lightweight.
0:50:40Now, the big problem, obviously, when it comes to saying, "OK, I use an iPad Pro during the
0:50:46It's got this beautiful display, XDR, excellent colors.
0:50:51I switched to an iPad Mini at night,
0:50:53and the screen kind of sucks, right?
0:50:55And yes, it does.
0:50:56I mean, I had a comparison photo in the review,
0:50:59and you watch a TV show,
0:51:00you watch a movie on the big iPad Pro,
0:51:02and you do the same in the iPad Mini,
0:51:04and the colors are just terrible.
0:51:05It's washed out.
0:51:06It doesn't have the deep blacks of the XDR.
0:51:10You can go take a look at that photo yourself,
0:51:12which I took with Night Mode disabled.
0:51:14So it's exactly what you see in the picture.
0:51:18But the thing is, if I want to use an iPad Pro in bed
0:51:22to watch movies or TV shows like that,
0:51:25I have to prop it up somehow, right?
0:51:28Either I use a magic keyboard on my lap,
0:51:31or I switch to a smart folio and I try to pop it up
0:51:34without having it tip over on my bed.
0:51:38But at that point, the question is,
0:51:39if I have to hold this large tablet in bed,
0:51:44Why can I not just watch a movie on the TV in front of me?
0:51:48So the trade-off is you're leaving behind the XDR
0:51:53and those excellent colors.
0:51:55But with the iPad Mini, a couple of nights ago,
0:51:58I caught up on Ted Lasso.
0:52:01I watched three episodes of Ted Lasso
0:52:02just holding the iPad Mini in landscape
0:52:04on in front of my face, and it was excellent.
0:52:07I mean, that's the kind of thing
0:52:09that you can do with the iPad Mini.
0:52:10So even though you're making a compromise
0:52:13on the screen quality, on the image quality, you are gaining the fact that this is an iPad,
0:52:18bigger than a phone, right? That you can hold for hours at a time without feeling like your hands
0:52:26are about to fall off. So it's a decision that you gotta make, but to me this is the kind of iPad
0:52:33where I know that there are some compromises that I have to accept, but what I get in return
0:52:42is a super portable iPad that is like the word "delight" I used a lot in my review,
0:52:48and it really feels like that. Like, it's a delightful little thing that lets you use iPadOS
0:52:53anywhere you want, and you can just hold it with one hand, which is not something that you can do
0:52:59with the Air, not something you can do with the Pro 12.9. Is this a content consumption iPad?
0:53:05for most people, yes.
0:53:07Not, okay, you can use this as a—
0:53:13I quickly skinned Jason's review.
0:53:16I saw that Jason edited a story
0:53:19and a podcast episode on the Mini.
0:53:21You can prop it up with a keyboard
0:53:23and you can get it done, for sure.
0:53:25I was editing—
0:53:26I was reading my own iOS review on it.
0:53:28It's obviously not optimized for that, right?
0:53:32It's—
0:53:33Because also the software keyboard in landscape takes up basically the entire display, right?
0:53:38Exactly. The software keyboard in landscape takes up the whole display also because in landscape
0:53:42it's shorter than before because of the different aspect ratio of this iPad.
0:53:47So you can get it done. You just got to be aware of the fact that Split View,
0:53:54it's pretty cramped and small. Slide Over is even smaller. Try and use something in Slide Over
0:54:01in landscape mode on the iPad mini, it's quite comical, really.
0:54:06This is kind of like where the iPad Pro is a landscape iPad.
0:54:12It feels like from reading yours and Jason's reviews that really this is a portrait iPad.
0:54:18And that you can do a bunch of stuff on it, but the majority of the time you're probably
0:54:22going to use this in portrait mode if you're not watching video or playing games.
0:54:25Yeah, I agree.
0:54:27It is also because like they made it taller, right, than before.
0:54:32And it feels like they know that this is an iPad you're going to use most of the time in portrait mode.
0:54:38Not just if you're reading stuff, but even like if you're sketching, right,
0:54:43you're holding it in portrait mode and it feels like a piece of paper,
0:54:45like a little sketchbook that you're writing on.
0:54:48It's also optimized for that.
0:54:49So it does feel like you put it exactly right.
0:54:52The iPad Pro is a landscape iPad.
0:54:54This one is a portrait iPad.
0:54:56And that is also another factor as to why I can use two iPads, right?
0:55:04And they are still iPads, they run the same OS, but they produce these wildly different experiences.
0:55:11You know, on the iPad Pro it's all about multitasking and the keyboard and split view and multi-window, multi-column.
0:55:18On the Mini, it's more of an old-school iPad, which is one app at a time, sort of the old saying,
0:55:23it becomes the app you're using, you know, it's a book, it's a browser, it's, you know,
0:55:27it's an RSS client, it's a game, that sort of experience, yeah.
0:55:31So hilariously to me, the 11-inch iPad Pro is still thinner than this one.
0:55:38I find that very funny. It's just funny, like, I just, it's like, because my favorite fact,
0:55:45I say this all the time, people probably hate it by now, the 11-inch iPad Pro is the thinnest iOS
0:55:49device ever made. It used to be both iPad Pros but the 12.9 got thicker this last time.
0:55:55So the 11 inch is still thinner. Looking at the images of the old and new mini side by side
0:56:02is wild looking at the two of them next to each other. Because it's like the screen is so much
0:56:09bigger but it's physically smaller. I find that really interesting and it also is wild to me that
0:56:16The iPad mini is, you said, like it's 41 grams heavier than your 12 Pro Max in a case?
0:56:24Yeah.
0:56:25Which I guess with the 13 Pro Max, it's going to be 20 grams of difference.
0:56:29Yeah, yeah, exactly.
0:56:31And the iPhone still feels heavier because it's dense, right?
0:56:37It's more, it's a smaller physical object, so the weight is all, you know, constrained to that smaller object.
0:56:46That's why it feels heavier.
0:56:47- I think you call it perceived lightness in the review.
0:56:50- Relative lightness.
0:56:51- Relative, that's it.
0:56:53Which I really like that as a term
0:56:54because it is important and it's hard to explain.
0:56:57- Yeah.
0:56:58- But it's kind of like the physical size of something,
0:57:01the way the weight is balanced, where the weight is,
0:57:04all that kind of stuff.
0:57:05It makes a very, very big difference to how you use it.
0:57:09'Cause like similarly, the 12.9 inch iPad
0:57:13it's not that much physically bigger than the 11.
0:57:16It's bigger, but it's not.
0:57:17But like, that is impossible to hold in one hand
0:57:21when the 11 isn't.
0:57:22Like it's comfortable, not as much as a mini would be,
0:57:25but you can hold it in one hand.
0:57:27But like, I don't like even propping up the 12.9
0:57:32with one hand.
0:57:34Like, you know, like just hold, like resting it.
0:57:36Like it doesn't feel very comfortable, but the 11 does.
0:57:39So it's interesting how these devices kind of feel
0:57:42-Yeah. -326 ppi.
0:57:47-Yes. Yes. You can tell the difference from --
0:57:49-Client in the iPad Pro.
0:57:51-Yeah. You can tell -- If you look at text up close,
0:57:54you can totally tell the difference
0:57:55where I was doing a bunch of tests
0:57:58with articles on Mac stories on six colors
0:58:00and on a bunch of -- on apple.com, too.
0:58:04And you can tell if you get real up close
0:58:08that text is kind of blurry
0:58:11on the lower display density devices.
0:58:14It's one of the other niceties of this device, right,
0:58:17where text is super sharp.
0:58:19And it kind of--
0:58:21somebody asked a question about this
0:58:23when I did the live stream today.
0:58:25Like, does it make up for the lack of promotion?
0:58:29It doesn't really make up for it,
0:58:32because when you scroll, when you switch apps,
0:58:34when you navigate pages, that lack of promotion
0:58:38hits you right away.
0:58:40So the text, yes, when you're just looking at text
0:58:43and you're not scrolling, you're not doing anything,
0:58:45it's much sharper, it's crisp, it's nice to see.
0:58:48But then you scroll and you move around
0:58:50and you can tell that that 60 hertz refresh rate is there.
0:58:54And it's one of the things like when I use this,
0:58:59I immediately notice that it's not ProMotion,
0:59:02that it's not XDR.
0:59:03So still, it comes back to that argument
0:59:08to that argument of, is this a trade-off that is fine for you to accept? And ultimately,
0:59:14I think the portability of it, it's what makes it worth it.
0:59:20That screen density, the 326 PPI, is not new. It comes from the fact that this density was
0:59:30what the iPhone was at in the sort of original Retina series of phones, or 326 PPI, and the
0:59:37the iPad mini 2 and it with retina yeah pick that up and yes and so everything
0:59:42is slightly smaller in the term of points I'm gonna get that backwards
0:59:48probably forgive me but things are physically smaller on the screen but you
0:59:52have a higher screen resolution and the big iPads have been at whatever they're
0:59:59at for 264 264 forever that's from the iPad 3 I think I don't think they've
1:00:04ever changed that. I think so. The iPad mini is a little bit of an
1:00:10outlier and its screen is really better thought of as a big iPhone screen and
1:00:16less of a small iPad Pro screen.
1:00:19Yeah, yeah. And I also think it's interesting to point out how the
1:00:25adoption of the Liquid Retina display went a little differently between the
1:00:31iPad Pro and the iPad Mini. In the case of the iPad Pro, in 2018, when it first
1:00:36moved to the, you know, liquid retina, quote-unquote, "edge-to-edge" design, the
1:00:42iPad Pro got physically smaller than the previous 12.9, but the screen stayed the
1:00:47same. In the iPad Mini, it got physically smaller, but the screen got bigger, and it
1:00:56kept the same display density. So I think that's a fascinating approach that Apple
1:01:00took here, which is keeping the same display density, but stretching the screen vertically
1:01:04so that it's taller, and a bit narrower, I believe, what is it, the difference on the
1:01:09horizontal side? 48 pixels? Less than the old iPad Mini, but 218 pixels more on the
1:01:19vertical side. So the fact that it's narrow, you barely notice. I had some screenshots
1:01:25in the review showing like, "Oh yeah, in Safari on the old iPad Mini, you see a bunch of extra
1:01:31pixels for tabs, but 280 pixels more on the vertical side, you see more text." So that's
1:01:40the nice thing about this new display, is that it lets you see more text, which again,
1:01:45it's made to be used in portrait, and it's ideal for reading stuff. And I guess playing
1:01:51games in landscape, but I also pointed out this in the review. All the Apple Arcade games
1:01:58that I tried on the Mini, they were letterboxed. They had black bars around them. I assume
1:02:06that some...
1:02:07This is the same as the 11.
1:02:09Yeah, maybe some updates will come out on Friday when the iPad Mini launches officially.
1:02:14But yeah, all of them were letterboxed.
1:02:17Because it's technically a different, not technically, it is a different screen size,
1:02:21right?
1:02:22Like, shape.
1:02:23Yeah, different aspect ratio.
1:02:24This is the same with the 11 inch, like the 12, when the iPad Pro came out, the 12.9 inch
1:02:29could do fine, like it was even with the rounded corners it wasn't an issue.
1:02:33Well maybe it was a little bit of an issue but it wasn't that bad.
1:02:35But the 11 inch, people had to like, they had to resubmit their apps built for that
1:02:41device because it was a new screen shape, I guess.
1:02:44Here's the thing, apps were not letterboxed, just games.
1:02:49- I think games struggle harder
1:02:53because they're not able to take advantage
1:02:57of the adaptive UI stuff.
1:02:59I don't remember what it's called, size classes.
1:03:01I don't think games can take advantage of that
1:03:03in the same way because it's mostly video assets and stuff.
1:03:06So it seems like in history,
1:03:09it's not been incredibly difficult
1:03:10for a lot of developers to rebuild for that.
1:03:13So according to Vida, if you build the app with Xcode 13 release candidate, the letterboxing
1:03:18goes away.
1:03:19Oh, there you go.
1:03:20Okay.
1:03:21So just a case of people updating their applications.
1:03:25I really loved this line from towards the end, I think it's in your conclusion, which
1:03:30is kind of ironic coming from me.
1:03:31I can finally say I prefer using an iPad as my non-primary computer, except of course
1:03:37that my main computer continues to be a 12.9 inch iPad Pro.
1:03:40So there's so many people that are like, "Oh, you know, I also use an iPad, but my main
1:03:44computer is my MacBook or my iMac."
1:03:47But now it's like, your main computer is a 12.9 inch iPad Pro, and you also use an iPad
1:03:51Pro as your non-main...
1:03:52Like, I just like that idea.
1:03:55I just wanted to say that.
1:03:56I thought it was funny.
1:03:57It's like, "Yeah, this is my non-primary computer, except that the primary computer is also an
1:04:01iPad."
1:04:02But that's the thing.
1:04:03It's just like, what will people say?
1:04:04It's like, "Yeah, I have an iPad," or, "Yeah, I use an iPad."
1:04:06You'd be like, "Yeah, I have an iPad.
1:04:08I use it with my iPad."
1:04:10(laughing)
1:04:12- Let me sit down my iPad and get my other iPad out.
1:04:15- So yeah, it was a fun review to put together.
1:04:17I really love the Mini.
1:04:19I think anybody who's excited about it
1:04:22should be because it's really good.
1:04:24It's really nice object to hold.
1:04:28It's obviously smaller than the iPad Pro you're used to.
1:04:32It's smaller than the Air.
1:04:34Multitasking isn't great on it,
1:04:36but watching videos, playing games, reading stuff,
1:04:39catching up on Twitter, catching up on RSS,
1:04:42like all of these single app activities,
1:04:45I think you're gonna love it.
1:04:47- I wanted to give a bit of follow-up.
1:04:48So tomorrow, which is Thursday the 23rd,
1:04:51podcast that I do with Austin Evans
1:04:55called "The Test Drivers."
1:04:56We have an interview with Tom Boger and Steven Tonner
1:04:58from Apple about the iPad mini.
1:05:00- Oh, nice.
1:05:01- One thing I would say, I asked them what Starlight is.
1:05:05So if you wanna hear Apple's response to what is Starlight,
1:05:09Check it out.
1:05:11So that's gonna be episode four of The Test Drivers.
1:05:14The truth will be revealed on The Test Drivers.
1:05:19Looking forward to that.
1:05:20What is styling?
1:05:21Big answer.
1:05:22Big answer to the Starlight question.
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1:07:11>> IpadOS and iOS 15.
1:07:12I did that in the wrong order, but you know what I'm talking about, but nobody ever says
1:07:16it that way around.
1:07:17But nevertheless, here we are.
1:07:18The 15th edition of iOS and what, the third edition of IpadOS is now available.
1:07:26Obviously, Federico has written a big review.
1:07:28He spoke about the review as well on App Stories.
1:07:32So if you want to get more detail about what's actually in those, you can go check that out.
1:07:37I thought maybe the three of us could kind of just talk about a little bit, I think maybe
1:07:40me and Steven more because it's newer to us, some of the stuff.
1:07:44But I guess some of the things that I wanted to talk about today were like apps and stuff
1:07:48that have come out since, which we may not have had that much time with.
1:07:53I think the best thing that I have found, well not that I have nerfed it myself, but
1:08:00My favorite thing so far, there we go, is the 1Password Safari extension.
1:08:06Yeah, that's good.
1:08:07It's so good.
1:08:09Oh man, I love it.
1:08:12I didn't think I was going to like it as much as I do, but having everything just there
1:08:18rather than needing to like, oh, you need the one time password, well, you've got to
1:08:24leave the app or you've got to do something.
1:08:26Like, it's all just like everything's there.
1:08:27It's so much easier.
1:08:29I think Federico, did you say you turned off some of the autofill stuff?
1:08:33Yeah, I turned off like a keychain and now I can just use one password.
1:08:38If you turn off the...
1:08:40I think Apple should do something about this.
1:08:43If you turn off password autofill for one password, so it just works at the extension,
1:08:49then it turns it off in all your other apps.
1:08:50And so if you're in an application and want to log into an account that's in one password,
1:08:54it doesn't show up above the keyboard.
1:08:57And Safari View Controller seems to not have access to the extension too, right?
1:09:02Uh, yes.
1:09:03I believe that is, because those are like separate processes.
1:09:07So I would like for that to be cleaned up a little bit.
1:09:10I think most people who come across a web extension will be people using password managers
1:09:14and it feels like there's too much overlap right now between the old and new systems.
1:09:18Yup.
1:09:19But it's so good.
1:09:21It is good.
1:09:22And on the iPad, you get the little icon in the door bar,
1:09:26in the like, in the address bar.
1:09:27- Yeah, just like a real computer.
1:09:30- That's the whole thing of extensions.
1:09:32You can get like pop-ups and all kinds of UIs on the iPad,
1:09:37but on the iPhone, it's always that little like sheet
1:09:40from the bottom of the screen you get.
1:09:42- Can we talk about how bad the puzzle icon is?
1:09:44- So what's this thing with the puzzle icon?
1:09:47- It just looks bad.
1:09:48It's just a bad puzzle piece.
1:09:51- Okay.
1:09:51- So you obviously have a lot of puzzle piece thoughts.
1:09:56- I do.
1:09:56I think that my main complaint is that
1:09:59there's not enough open space.
1:10:02It's just like the puzzle,
1:10:03the little horns on the puzzle piece.
1:10:05I know there's real names for this.
1:10:06Don't at me, puzzle people.
1:10:09- Puzzle people.
1:10:10- It could look more puzzle-y.
1:10:11- The piece that goes in, that's called a Puz,
1:10:14and the part that sticks out is called a Zill.
1:10:16- You're making that up.
1:10:17- I'm not making it up.
1:10:18Where do you think they got the name for it?
1:10:19- Yes, if you are making that up.
1:10:20It's a poz and a zl.
1:10:23Did you say the zl?
1:10:25No, zl, it's like Z-L-E, zl.
1:10:27You got the poz and the zl.
1:10:29P-U-Z and Z-L-E, that's how it works.
1:10:31The poz, the poz and the zl.
1:10:33Yeah, that's what that is.
1:10:34You're the poz to my zl.
1:10:35That could be, that puzzles to Myke's mood board.
1:10:39So that could all be better.
1:10:41There are some--
1:10:42I just don't understand why it needs
1:10:43to be a puzzle piece at all.
1:10:45Yeah.
1:10:46Because it's an extension and you're--
1:10:48But that's not a puzzle piece.
1:10:49What do puzzles extend?
1:10:51Misery.
1:10:53[laughs]
1:10:55It's a puzzle because like
1:10:57it's a puzzle in addition to Safari.
1:11:00No, I don't know. I honestly don't know.
1:11:02I don't know why it's a puzzle piece.
1:11:04That doesn't make any sense to me.
1:11:06But I like it. Can you boys tell me about other extensions that I should be looking into?
1:11:11I'm gonna tell about all the...
1:11:13Look, we're gonna give you a list of extensions.
1:11:15You gotta try them all. Okay?
1:11:17Stephen, you go first.
1:11:19Okay, I will go with PippaFire, which will picture in picture any video in Safari.
1:11:26How much...
1:11:27Like, where are you coming across videos in Safari?
1:11:31Mostly just the Wall Street Journal website.
1:11:33But if you, you know, if you're one of those people who like don't want the YouTube app
1:11:37because you think Google's following you or something, you can get picture in picture
1:11:41there.
1:11:42They definitely are.
1:11:43It's just about whether it's a problem for you.
1:11:46I don't consider it a problem for you, but what else?
1:11:49Okay, so one password we already mentioned.
1:11:52Yeah.
1:11:53You, okay, you want to block Google AMP search results, right?
1:11:57Yes, just like Mr. Vitici in the New York Times.
1:12:01Yes, Mr. Vitici in the New York Times, that's a throwback.
1:12:04Somebody will paste the link.
1:12:06So why do I want to do this, though? Why do I?
1:12:09Do you like Google AMP results and the fact that they hide the real link of a page?
1:12:16I mean, in Shredeck, I just tap the thing at the top and get the link.
1:12:18But why that's... Okay, so you don't have a lot of AMP thoughts.
1:12:22-So that's unfortunate. -Not really. I don't.
1:12:25I know that this upsets all of my friends a lot.
1:12:29Like, this is one of those things.
1:12:30Every now and then, something gets everybody real mad,
1:12:33and I have zero opinion about it.
1:12:37-AMP is one of those things, but... -That's fine.
1:12:38That's how I feel about most things.
1:12:40But AMP, it really amps me up.
1:12:43-If you're... -Hello!
1:12:44I'm good today!
1:12:46You're very good today.
1:12:47It's because you're done with the review now, so now 100% of your brain
1:12:51can just be here on the show, you're not writing the review in the back of your head.
1:12:56My brain is all japes right now.
1:12:58So, okay, but if you were to care about AMP...
1:13:02If one was to care.
1:13:04Two extensions I recommend.
1:13:06One, over-AMPed.
1:13:07Do I need both of them?
1:13:08No, just one, but you can pick and choose the one you prefer.
1:13:11Which was the best one?
1:13:12Choose your children. Choose between your children.
1:13:14which is the best one.
1:13:15If you're gonna make me do this, I want the best one.
1:13:18Okay, I feel knowing you, you're gonna like Amplosion more,
1:13:26which is the one by Christian Selig, the maker of Apollo for Reddit.
1:13:31But I don't use Apollo, so...
1:13:33You don't need it for...
1:13:36You don't need Apollo.
1:13:37I only want to say that because Apollo is another one of these things where everyone's like,
1:13:41"It's the only Reddit app!"
1:13:43I was like, no, I don't use it. I don't like it. But okay.
1:13:46Me personally, I think I prefer over-amped, but knowing you,
1:13:51I think you prefer Amplosion.
1:13:53What is this?
1:13:54You're more of a visual person, right? We have established that.
1:13:58Why do I need visuals?
1:13:59Because there's like a Tamagotchi-like game in the settings of this app.
1:14:04Are you being serious? I want it right now. I want it right now.
1:14:08See, I mean, you want me to make recommendations, don't question them.
1:14:13Okay?
1:14:13But you gotta tell me!
1:14:14You gotta tell me why!
1:14:15You can't just be like, knowing you!
1:14:17No, blind faith!
1:14:18That's how Max Stories works!
1:14:20Blind faith?
1:14:21Wow, I was like, "You must submit to Max Stories!"
1:14:24The one true John demands your allegiance.
1:14:28I give my allegiance to one true John today.
1:14:33I spent an hour on a Discord call with John today
1:14:40trying to get the two of these chuckleheads set up for streaming to
1:14:45Twitch. Wait, did they wait to the day of to get it to work? Yeah, that's why
1:14:48they're chuckleheads. I mean, I was writing my review until 4.30 a.m. last
1:14:53night. What do you want from me? Well, I'm just saying you're a couple of
1:14:56chuckleheads and I helped you out because without me, without me, it
1:14:59was gonna be a disaster. Let me tell you that. They gave me a test today, like, "Hey,
1:15:05"Hey, can you see this right now?" and Federico was exploding out of the speakers and John
1:15:11could hear himself. There was a point where I was on the phone with John trying to work
1:15:17this out and we got into just the worst feedback loop in a way that neither of us will ever
1:15:22know how it happened. Anyway, it was, we had a real time today but we got it working.
1:15:27I'm gonna send you a box of chocolates to make up for it. Thank you for your help.
1:15:32No dude, the way you repay me is just telling me the apps to download.
1:15:35Ok, so Amplosion, that one you need.
1:15:39So you like dark mode, don't you?
1:15:41So I've tried this app, Noir, right?
1:15:43Yeah, Noir, yes.
1:15:45It was doing things that I didn't want and I was a bit confused by it.
1:15:49So it was off, but still affecting the color of some elements of a webpage.
1:15:56And I didn't understand why.
1:15:58OK, so you gotta tweak the settings and you want to enable...
1:16:03There's like different ways that you can go about it, which is like if a website has a dark mode,
1:16:08don't do your custom thing. If a website doesn't have a dark mode, do it.
1:16:13But only when I switch to dark mode myself.
1:16:17There's a couple of ways that... There are two settings and you need to play around with those.
1:16:21Right? So, but yeah, it's really good. When it works, it's really good.
1:16:26Now, this one, Myke, I think you're gonna love it.
1:16:29You're based in Europe, we all know that.
1:16:31Go on the App Store, search for--
1:16:35Look, Brexit did not change geography.
1:16:37I know, and it's Americans, right?
1:16:41Anyway, Super Agent for Safari.
1:16:45What this extension does,
1:16:47it blocks the cookie notices on websites.
1:16:50No!
1:16:51Why are you telling me this one first?
1:16:54(laughing)
1:16:55Super agent for Safari.
1:16:58Okay.
1:16:59(sighs)
1:17:00Then...
1:17:01- This is everything I want.
1:17:02- Okay, so we have also established
1:17:05that you don't watch videos in Safari, so...
1:17:09- No, I do, but they're all YouTube videos.
1:17:11I'm just not sure.
1:17:12- So, okay, so maybe Steven will appreciate this more.
1:17:15Vidimote, V-I-D-I-M-O-T-E, Vidimote.
1:17:20This gives you like global controls, especially on iPad.
1:17:25It's very nice, you get this pop-up with all kinds of controls for all kinds of videos,
1:17:29like playback speed, skipping backward and forward.
1:17:34It's very nice.
1:17:35It's like global video controls for any video on a webpage.
1:17:39Wait, what does this super agent do?
1:17:41I feel like I can't configure it all.
1:17:44What is it doing?
1:17:46It just blocks the cooking notices.
1:17:47Oh, you just leave it, you don't have to do anything, it's just doing the same?
1:17:50No, you don't have to, no, you don't do anything.
1:17:52You just turn it on, you give it access, and you're done.
1:17:55That's all.
1:17:56- Oh, amazing.
1:17:57- Yeah.
1:17:58The last one I wanna mention,
1:18:00maybe Myke will like this, maybe.
1:18:04So I don't know if you're familiar with,
1:18:05this is a start page extension.
1:18:08It's called Momentum.
1:18:10So this is a popular custom start page on desktop,
1:18:13and it's now on iPhone and iPad too.
1:18:15The reason you will like it,
1:18:17it's got Todoist integration.
1:18:21So you can have a custom start page, you can turn off, like they have a set of default
1:18:26background photos.
1:18:27So this takes over the Safari start page, OK?
1:18:30When you open a new tab, you get a custom one instead.
1:18:34If you are a plus subscriber to Momentum, you can upload your own wallpapers or your
1:18:39own photos, and it cycles through those.
1:18:41So now when I open a new tab, I got photos of Zelda and Ginger as background, which is
1:18:46nice.
1:18:47And there are a bunch of modules that you can configure.
1:18:50You can have quick links, you can have search engines, you can have a little box that shows
1:18:55you your tasks from Todoist, you can have a world clock so that when you open a new
1:19:00tab, you see times around the world, and you can configure all of this.
1:19:04You can also have things like your mantra or inspirational quotes, you know, that kind
1:19:10of stuff, which you can turn those off.
1:19:12I know that you don't strike me as the poetic guy, which is fine because I also turned the
1:19:20I don't like poetry, I just don't like inspiration quotes.
1:19:24But it's very nice how you can, like, I set it up with my own background photos,
1:19:29Todoist integration and a word clock, and it's very nice.
1:19:33And lastly, I have just one more, but I need to confirm the name.
1:19:38I don't think I want to see my Todoist tasks outside of Todoist.
1:19:42That just feels like upsetting to me.
1:19:45I get that. There's an extension.
1:19:49Oh my God, this app is balking at me.
1:19:52Yeah.
1:19:54Yeah, that's the Amplosion app.
1:19:55It's balking.
1:19:56That's Mr. Waffles, right?
1:19:57Okay, so- Mr. Waffles?
1:19:59Yeah, that's the name.
1:20:00I love it.
1:20:01So X Search for Safari.
1:20:04This lets you set up custom keyboard shortcuts
1:20:09for search engines.
1:20:10What?
1:20:11Stuff like, so you can do things like W
1:20:14and then you type, I don't know, London
1:20:17and you search Wikipedia.
1:20:19Or you can type, it's like the shortcode syntax on DuckDuckGo,
1:20:24but in Safari for all kinds of search engines.
1:20:28And you can even have like these custom queries and stuff.
1:20:31It's very configurable,
1:20:32and you can save a bunch of time if you set it up.
1:20:35So you can set up these shortcuts for all kinds of websites,
1:20:38like the Internet Wayback Machine, GitHub, YouTube,
1:20:43all kinds of stuff.
1:20:44And you can set up custom keywords
1:20:48to activate those search engines.
1:20:50It's cool.
1:20:52I can have a shortcut for Amazon Italy
1:20:55and Amazon US, for example.
1:20:57There are some other extensions like these.
1:21:01I saw Dan Morin on Six Colors recommend
1:21:04Safari keyword search.
1:21:06I think it's a similar concept,
1:21:07so you can pick and choose if you want, I guess.
1:21:10I like this one myself.
1:21:12But yeah, these are--
1:21:13- What was that called, that one?
1:21:16- Xsearch.
1:21:17X-Search. One word.
1:21:21Playing around with things.
1:21:22And that's...
1:21:24And I guess I can also mention the ones that I have that you, Myke, will not care about.
1:21:29Achoo! HTML, also by Christian Selig, is also like a very good web inspector on iPhone and iPad.
1:21:36If you ever want to inspect HTML on web pages, you can use that one.
1:21:40Beautiful icon, too. Too bad you're never going to see the icon because it's an extension.
1:21:44Christian also made an opening Apollo extension, if you want to automatically redirect Reddit links to Apollo, which is nice.
1:21:52That's clever.
1:21:54Yeah, it's very clever.
1:21:56And, yeah.
1:21:58Man, there's a lot of these, huh?
1:22:00Yeah, it's...
1:22:02This is like...
1:22:04THE category this year, right?
1:22:06Because basically nothing else is new in iOS.
1:22:10So a bunch of developers, given the absence of SharePlay,
1:22:14rightfully so, they have realized,
1:22:17"Well, I guess I'm going to make an extension."
1:22:19You know? And it's nice.
1:22:21I spent a bunch of money, like the other --
1:22:23Like, it reminded me of the old days of the App Store
1:22:25when there was, like, a new thing,
1:22:27and you go in and you buy everything
1:22:28because you want to test them.
1:22:30Some of those will not stick around,
1:22:32but it feels like a new way for developers to make money
1:22:36with these new features.
1:22:39It reminds me of the old days of extensions and widgets, you know, that kind of deal.
1:22:45This is really good though, because he's genuinely useful too.
1:22:48It's not just like a fun thing, right?
1:22:50This is genuinely really useful stuff.
1:22:54And super cool.
1:22:55Yeah, I'm into this big time.
1:22:57How cool.
1:22:58I'm trying, I've tinkered with the Night Mode one.
1:23:01I have another one that maybe this is very specific, but...
1:23:04So do you use tab groups in Safari?
1:23:07I do, yes.
1:23:08OK. Does it annoy you that when you open a tab group, maybe you switch to it after a
1:23:14while, the tabs are all from the day before, like they haven't been refreshed?
1:23:22I don't think I've noticed that.
1:23:23This is a problem for me because I use tab groups as like... For example, I have a tab
1:23:29group called Italian News, and it's just Italian news websites. But when I go in, especially
1:23:36on the iPad Pro, they're always kept in memory.
1:23:38And so I'm getting like, I open the tab group and I switch to the first website, and it's
1:23:42from the day before.
1:23:44And I gotta go in and refresh each one of them.
1:23:48Now I can just use this extension called "Reload all tabs for Safari."
1:23:53That does exactly that.
1:23:54It reloads all tabs.
1:23:56So if you use tab groups like me, you can use this extension and reload all the pages
1:24:01that you've saved in the tab group, which is convenient.
1:24:04But now I'm done for real.
1:24:06Nothing else.
1:24:08What about stuff on the iPad?
1:24:11We got widgets on the home screen now.
1:24:13How are you all liking that?
1:24:14I love it.
1:24:15I will say I've surprised myself at the fact that I have actually found multiple extra
1:24:23large widgets that I like.
1:24:25I did not think that I would like them or want to use them because it feels like that's
1:24:30surely too much space on the home screen taken up but Timery, Fantastic Owl and Carrot Weather.
1:24:40Timery isn't out yet. It will be at some point. Yes. They have a great extra large widget.
1:24:46Very good. I do this to Timery all the time, to Joe all the time. I feel like I get a pass.
1:24:50I talk about things that aren't in the app yet but hey it's good. Be hype because the
1:24:55extra large widget in Timery is excellent if you're a Timery user. It's a very smart
1:24:59way of creating one. Or you could say it's Excelent. Oh yes. What happened to you? You
1:25:07were me. He's working at 125% today. That's what's happening. What's happening to me?
1:25:15I don't know. This is post review Federico. The Fantastical one and the Carrot Weather
1:25:20one they're really great because it's like I always want to see more information about
1:25:25So I'm using them on the home screen, which is super cool.
1:25:28So I'm very happy about that.
1:25:29Especially better for me now that I didn't know
1:25:33until a couple of days ago that you can rearrange
1:25:38your widgets and app icons in both portrait and landscape view
1:25:41and they're remembered independently.
1:25:44That is very cool and a very unintuitive feature
1:25:47via PadOS 15.
1:25:48- There are so many of those.
1:25:50- Yes, yeah.
1:25:51And so that's cool that that's there.
1:25:53But yeah, I really like the extra large widgets.
1:25:55And just having widgets on the home screen is great,
1:25:58but the extra large ones were a surprise to me
1:25:59now that I'm seeing more developers update for it.
1:26:02- Yeah, yeah, I was kind of hoping that
1:26:06I think GoodTask has done this.
1:26:09So GoodTask, the Reminders client,
1:26:11they've done an Excel widget
1:26:13that lets you use the board mode,
1:26:17sort of like the Trello Kanban mode that they have.
1:26:20it lets you view that in an Excel widget.
1:26:24And I was kind of hoping that Todoist would do that as well,
1:26:27because they also have a board view setting for projects
1:26:31and filters and that kind of stuff.
1:26:33But they have an Excel widget for Todoist,
1:26:36but they don't make it configurable
1:26:38so that you see the board mode with the sections and everything.
1:26:41Todoist's widgets are so...
1:26:44I feel like they are lazy from a design standpoint.
1:26:48But they are pretty well done from the configuration part.
1:26:52The features are good!
1:26:54Features are great.
1:26:55It's like they forgot to put any design on those widgets.
1:26:58They're just lists, you know?
1:27:00It's like, here's three bullets!
1:27:01It's like, okay, that's great for people that want that,
1:27:05but I would like maybe how many tasks I have for the day,
1:27:09or anything other than, like, here's a task!
1:27:12Okay, thank you, Todoist.
1:27:14I don't use the Todoist widgets because I think that they're really ugly.
1:27:18So yeah, I do like the widgets on the iPad, I like the big widgets.
1:27:22I wanted to ask the two of you if you had any specific focus mode inspiration for me.
1:27:28Actually, let's save that, because before we go today, we have to talk about Quick Note,
1:27:33because we said we'd talk about Quick Note.
1:27:34Okay.
1:27:35And we can maybe save focus modes for another episode.
1:27:38We can come back to some of this stuff.
1:27:39So who wants to go first to Quick Note?
1:27:42We all have things to say about Quick Note, apparently.
1:27:44I just want to say that I love it, especially for the Safari integration.
1:27:47how you can highlight stuff on web pages and it saves the highlight with the text from the page,
1:27:53and it keeps it linked, and then you can search for that text in Notes. I think it's really nice.
1:27:58I wish that I had that kind of integration in Books for highlights. That's not supported.
1:28:05I mentioned today in my iPad Mini review this EPUB reader called YOMU, that's Y-O-M-U,
1:28:11and it does what I want it, which is you highlight something in an ebook,
1:28:15and it supports Quick Note. So you make a deep link for that annotation,
1:28:21which is what I want Apple to do in books. But otherwise, I'm a big fan.
1:28:25I love Quick Note and I use Obsidian, but it's the kind of feature that, like,
1:28:32it's very compelling as a Notes user. Too bad that there's a bunch of other problems in Notes,
1:28:37but yeah, I think it's really well done.
1:28:39My issue with Quick Note is that it's kind of really only an iPad feature, like really.
1:28:46Mm-mm.
1:28:47And I don't feel like I will be able to get enough use out of it until the feature set is expanded more broadly.
1:28:56And it does feel strange for that to be the case because most of the time the iPad is the device that doesn't get the feature, right?
1:29:03It's like either an iPhone feature or it's a Mac feature and maybe the iPad's kind of supported by it.
1:29:08But I just think that there's ways that they could do it for the Mac and the iPhone to
1:29:14make it work better, really.
1:29:17The iPhone, it kind of just doesn't exist at all.
1:29:19Apparently on the Mac, it's like, it doesn't really, at the moment at least, doesn't really
1:29:25seem to be doing a lot of what makes it good on the iPad about being able to collect up,
1:29:30you know, like, "I'm on this page" or "I'm in this part of the app" or whatever.
1:29:35Yeah, a lot of that user session stuff isn't in Mac apps, especially AppKit apps.
1:29:41And so, yeah, on Monterey it's maybe not quite as useful.
1:29:44So I find that to be a shame.
1:29:46So I feel like I can't really give it the full use that I've wanted to because I would
1:29:51feel like maybe I would be losing out the functionality in other places.
1:29:56I feel like I also need to just give it more of a go.
1:29:59I was kind of waiting for a lot of the apps that I use to be updated to support it.
1:30:04I don't know if it has been yet, but I was wanting Reader.
1:30:07Reader would be a really good one for me,
1:30:09because I very frequently go through my RSS
1:30:12and add links to a note.
1:30:14I'm like, "Oh, I'll read this later on for show prep."
1:30:19So Reader is a perfect one for me.
1:30:21I haven't checked if they've updated to support it yet,
1:30:23but I hope that they do if they haven't.
1:30:25- I don't think so.
1:30:26I don't think Reader supports that, maybe,
1:30:30but I know you don't wanna switch.
1:30:33I'm sure that NetNewsWire supports that already.
1:30:37And maybe Lear, which is L-I-R-E.
1:30:42- But I really like Reeda though.
1:30:45- But me too, me too, that's the problem.
1:30:47Hopefully we'll support it soon.
1:30:49- 'Cause I mean, if Reeda wasn't good,
1:30:52you know what I mean?
1:30:53Then I would move, but Reeda's really good, so.
1:30:56- I don't know what it is, but it's super good.
1:30:58Yeah, I always go back to Reeda eventually.
1:31:00There's something about it.
1:31:01It's one of those apps, like there's something about it.
1:31:04I don't know what it is, but it's so nice.
1:31:06I hope that they support this feature then for...
1:31:09Because it feels like these kinds of applications
1:31:12where you're already triaging through a bunch of information,
1:31:15being able to very quickly save stuff to a note is kind of like perfect.
1:31:21So hopefully, Reeder will get that in the future.
1:31:24I still want to have...
1:31:27I want to quick note my reminders.
1:31:31Obviously, I mean, says the guy who made a plugin for Obsidian to have
1:31:34Task Manager and note-taking integration, but I really would like to
1:31:39put a reminder like an actual
1:31:43deep-linked reminder in Notes and have that sort of integration. Some developers have done this. I think things to do is
1:31:50I believe they have Quick Note integration now, but imagine if Apple could do it and
1:31:56And imagine if Apple were to support quick not in reminders
1:32:00and you will have like a special deep link
1:32:02with the check box.
1:32:04Imagine if you could have a reminder deep link
1:32:07and it has a check box and you click it in notes
1:32:11and you mark it as done.
1:32:13- That would be good.
1:32:14That feels like fluid office or whatever it was called.
1:32:17- Yes, I mean, they are doing like this,
1:32:20Apple is already doing this custom deep links,
1:32:23like the Safari one, when you highlight text on a webpage,
1:32:26Developers can do that. That's an Apple only thing
1:32:29So if they were to or I mean why not do an Apple music quick note custom thing?
1:32:36Which has a music that lets you play the music
1:32:38you know
1:32:41Maybe I don't know maybe in the future and Steven you said that all of this made you sad
1:32:45I just I just wish I could use it with craft because I've moved everything there and
1:32:50I really like it. I don't want to move out of it. I'm not going to move out of it
1:32:53So this is not a super useful thing for me, but at the same time
1:32:57I don't really do this sort of work on my iPad. So I feel like it's
1:33:03Just not for me. It's
1:33:06doing it but
1:33:08Imagine in the future you will have
1:33:10Default quick note apps and you can use devon think instead imagine that that would be cool
1:33:16I mean, it's not too far-fetched, right? No
1:33:18Maybe it is though. I don't know who knows
1:33:23Yeah a little more follow-out Sunday's MPU will be all about iOS and iPad OS 15
1:33:28So David and I get into the the weeds of that. I can't help but notice there's been no tvOS review Myke
1:33:34I haven't started it because honestly I forgot about it until two days ago. Okay, I
1:33:39Completely forgot that that was a thing that I did
1:33:42But honestly, I think I could probably tell you real quick
1:33:45Nothing except a couple of little tweaks and some new war papers, but let me look into it properly
1:33:52and I'll get back to you because I 100% forgot that that was a thing that I apparently do every year.
1:33:58Yeah, well, you know, don't keep us waiting too long or we're gonna find a replacement.
1:34:03This is gonna be my year where it's a month late.
1:34:05Okay, that's fine.
1:34:07We'll get one, right?
1:34:08Yeah, you'll get one. Okay.
1:34:10We'll get one. I was on time last year.
1:34:12All right, you can be late. It's fine.
1:34:15I completely forgot that this is the thing that I do, so.
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