00:00:00 ◼ ► we didn't talk about this on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► but the most important revelation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► cases video him sending me the dollar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► just how terrible is in writing is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► wow so here's why it's extra awful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► my handwriting is like chicken scratch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► have terrible handwriting right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/12">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► yours is terrible but then it has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/14">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► extra flavor and the extra flavor it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► terrible you and you do unconventional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► things you connect the letters in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► that other people don't so it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/23">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► you let your sloppily drawing the letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► should be connected like in in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► are not normal so it's it's just hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/30">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► parse you're like is this this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► English letters I don't even know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► your boy that bad handwriting marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► before the show that he was having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► livestream and and I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► explaining to me what's going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► themselves in different ways so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► don't you tell the listeners what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► ok so as you might have noticed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► tweet that announce that we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► be live the the time duration that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► in that we normally it's like we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/65">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► live in 45 minutes you know usually at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► tristar livestream about a half hour or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► a little more before recording and today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► the time interval was seven minutes 48 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/75">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► and the reason it looks longer set up i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► was here at eight-thirty i was here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► the 30-minute mark trying to get going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► and I realize all afternoon and evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/86">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► massive ddos attack that has taken down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► among other things their dns servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► market organs who is hosted by hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/96">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► registered over and I use their dns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/99">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► icecast server the powers this live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► stream is basically spent the last half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► hour trying to first see if i can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► working just by IP address but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► going to be tricky because of various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► virtual hosting things and eventually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► just created a whole new host name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► however didn't register dot FM's for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► while I actually don't know if they do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► think they might now but for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► they didn't register dot FM's so ATP FM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► is registered at Gandhi dotnet so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► quickly ran over there created a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► domain name live by ATP FM hopeful hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► that propagated in time you know to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► requested by anybody and fortunately it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► did I created that name like 840 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► basically move the whole thing over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► that and it's point to the same IP point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► the same server and basically required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/148">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► only a very quick creation of a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► virtual host on the market or server to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► just recognize that hostname give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► little like tiny little HTML page that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► basically embed the audio player and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► that all worked and it was great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► there we go so now we are streaming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/162">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► live by ATP dfm instead of market org [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/166">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► actually appears the the dns is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► actually had just ended but oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► people are starting to tweet at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► saying oh your sites and sites and sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► down and out for a fleeting moment I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► exciting or something like that then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► thought no this was just a link post I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► wouldn't be fireballs for that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► it occurred to me oh no this is a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/190">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► greater issue entirely it i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► really says a lot about how little i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► blog anymore that my site has basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► been up and down for the last five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► mm and I got in total one tweet about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► oh I'm so i'm so glad that i haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► to deal with stuff like that in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► various server administration stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► that's got to be held deal with deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► with DDoS yeah i can imagine especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► if you mean imagine if you hover where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► your you know your your hosting dns for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► so many people like that that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► that's your business to some degree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► No thank you I'm glad that's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► problem i'm curious for the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► the chat who are recommending different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► dns providers i guess i don't know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► i probably should know this isn't your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► registrar like the top authority so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► if somebody had a totally empty cache [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/242">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► let's suppose my burger star is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/243">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► somewhere else like cloudflare whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/248">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► if a new request goes to fetch my dns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► that has no cash information and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► stage it away is at first going to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► my register r2 c2 the nse's and then go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► to the NS so it basically like wood what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► I have to check my record store in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► to prevent this from being from ever hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► me again how would you how would it know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► you go to your registrar I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► how does it I don't know how did how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► does dns actually work at the very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► level i have no idea you should read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► lot of the o'reilly books on dns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► buying something vague recollection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► the only way that occurs to me now as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► think about it was probably informed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► my vague recollection is if you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► no information you can't start by going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► to the name server for that domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► because you don't know what the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/288">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► server domain is so there's a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► root nameservers that handle requests at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► you know that you that shouldn't handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► requests at all because there was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► many layers of cashing in between but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► you really started from nothing to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► of root nameservers for.com and.net not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► whatever and I don't know who those root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► nameservers are and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► there is a more complicated system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/309">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► place that makes this old information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► obviously because i read this book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► the nineties but that is my recollection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► yeah and other people chatting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► supporting the fact that basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► nameservers that your regular is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► involved in looking you up for dns van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► anyway that goes up up through the I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and Aaron maintained master server stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► like that you're saying so it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► registration and just move the dns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► somewhere else so that's good i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► might do that just move it somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/338">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► smaller basically it's time for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► run your own dns server hey why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► you write your own dns server it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► sense of thing that people have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► just ask those people they they love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► well actually it's funny bring this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► and I'm not trying to be funny one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► that that I've wondered i keep meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► to ask Marco but i but i keep forgetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► opportunity when you're building tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► and you are giving people subdomains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/362">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► personally but I'm saying tumblr was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► submarines how did that work exactly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► excellent question so the problem as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/373">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► know but our listeners might not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► know basically the idea is if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► some giant web service and you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► have people like hosted remains there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► basically pointing their dns to you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/385">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► www.usps.com they can point that to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► cname and a cname could just be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► know host at squarespace.com at or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► and then that PostScript that can lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► anywhere square face wanted to it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/402">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► lead to a whole bunch of load balancers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► can be geographically distributed can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/405">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► moved around between hosting servers it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► it's great the problem is that the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► www.icelebz.com if it's just Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► list.com with no W that can't point to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► scene that has to be an a record for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► to work in a record he needs to be an IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► address so you basically have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/424">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► special kind of IP address that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► route to different servers as needed or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► you could like if you just have that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► a load balancer they sold there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► certain very advanced routing things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/437">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► they're not easy and they are limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► when usually only have when you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► IP instead of instead of like a cname [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► what we did for the first couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► tumblr started a rackspace they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► out with one server rack space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► Rackspace and then it was like oh Sh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► rackspace is ridiculously expensive we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► will never be able to afford to scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► here so we very quickly moved over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► what was then called the planet which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► now today softlayer we had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► started telling people to point their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► their names at this one IP that we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► Rackspace's usual it was are like master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► server with a load balancer on it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► moved to the planet we kept one server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/479">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► at rackspace for a long time I i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► be at least two years into intertemporal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► like insane growth where if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► looked at our dns help page before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► assert before like you know six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► into into the service you your domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► would have been point there which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► many of our very large users being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► proxied through forget whether it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► squid or a crap what's that shape Roxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/505">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► yes it was quitter a proxy running on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► this one rackspace server for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► eventually shut that down i think but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/515">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► was years and years into the service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► then we're at the planet we basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► had like some kind of floating IP that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► their routers could assign to anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► within the data center and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► made that a little bit easier and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► sure with like geo dns you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► more options i don't know enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► say fortunately about time company to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► care about stuff like that i was gone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► was my job anymore but with it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► was all for like me redirecting my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► domains hit to tumblr right so how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► like something got tumblr.com work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► well that's that's just a wild-card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► virtualhost that's like like the the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► servers just literally had wildcard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► virtual host and the insulating like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► the PHP app that would get the invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► request which is look at the host name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/556">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► was and then dispatches from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► that's cheating why I don't know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► it wasn't much i was expecting this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► super long and involved answer and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► super simple and boring i'm disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► sorry but that's alright I'll forgive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/569">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► probably get to follow proper i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/573">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► have all of the follow up this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► which is making not very uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► to be honest but we're gonna roll with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► it if I'm here Casey and you're here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► doesn't make it our follow-up the am but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► I am the one who put all of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► bullets into the into the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► which is I should first and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► I mean in reality isn't always basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► John's follow-up basically but here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► so anyway I'm a friend of the show's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► dietrich-smith put up Twitter poll don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► know week ago maybe a little over a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► it says listening to the latest HP FM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► curious did you turn on desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► documents iCloud sink in mac OS Sierra i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/614">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► steve is a very prolific iOS developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► hacker so you have to consider that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/622">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► you consider the people sort of person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► that is likely to follow him and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► 30-percent yes and I'm happy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► four percent yes and I regretted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► twenty-nine percent know and the winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► 37-percent hell no I just thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/639">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► kind of interesting so yeah so thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/643">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► believe in the official twitter client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► thus I cannot create polls I love seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► that the EMT the empty space where polls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► should be as eyebrows twitter yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► can sense like this must be a pole but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/659">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► you on my way yeah so this obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► this is not a scientific poll whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► it's just twitter stuff the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► most people have been scared away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► this feature like i said if it's a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► of nerds following you know I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► Twitter account and makes sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/677">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► they would be the people who are reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► reviews and becoming or listen to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► podcast and being scared away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► feature so that's why the vast majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/683">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► of like no I did not enable this feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► and that's why hell no wins because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► these people are afraid of the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/687">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► because they read scary things about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► other possibility is if you know even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► they do the things they read about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► they're now liar that they have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► files or they have some very large files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► and I think you've never works for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► people i know i'm at the edge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► envelope here and I probably shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► enable it but if you just look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► people who did in a bullet most unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► with it right so four percent yes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► regretted isn't isn't that big number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/715">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► and of course the people are happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► it maybe they're happy with it now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► wait a year to see how happy they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► because you know all it takes is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► thing that goes awry it you become you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► know upset about but anyway um yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► really difficult to get a read on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/728">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► things without an actual an actual study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► especially when nerdy people like us ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► about it because it's a self-selecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► group i wanted to also briefly touch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► last week we had talked about how my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► beloved but ancient and adorably crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► headphones i had kicked the bucket well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► they weren't cooperating well with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/752">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► work laptop with Sierra which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► laptop that they're pretty much always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/755">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► promptly ignored every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/761">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► them because guess what headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► spontaneously started working again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► old crappy adorable headphones yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/766">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► I did you a PM reset which I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/771">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► of course this was I was shotgunning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► just trying everything under the Sun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/778">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► try to figure out how to make them work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/779">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► again and i'm not entirely clear what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► was that did it for sure i think i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/782">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► rebooted at least once it is that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/785">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► shotgunning means it's like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► headphones at once yes I'm like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► don't steal shotguns they spray a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► of little pellets everywhere at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/793">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► me and now we're here for gun people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► know place tonight I'm so sorry god I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/800">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► quickly cover a handful of options if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► you're in a similar scenario that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► heard a lot of responses from the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► one the motorola motorola s305 these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/812">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► those are the ones I used prior to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► ones that i am currently using and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► love them except that the battery went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► to crap pretty darn quickly and I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► to be able to make it through an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/825">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► day very fast and by honor maybe six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► months or a year after getting them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/830">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► could no longer make an entire day with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► the s05 there were a lot of suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► for the plantronics backbeat it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► have the behind the neck head bone head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/839">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► bone wow the behind the neck brace if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► you will that I had been requesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/846">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► because i'm too prissy to have my hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► squashed but those were also kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► sort of earbuds into me if I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► go here but sometimes we'll just go air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► pods and battery potential battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► but those were very very popular very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► very popular response i was almost going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► to buy our next set which is the kidney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/864">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► quinoa a bth 60v to France SI è qui [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/869">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► know was that commercial who's ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► some football but food commercial anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► point being the novella bth 260 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► version i don't recall the model name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► number whatever that did not support apt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► x but this pair apparently does and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/891">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► is what I was about to buy when my plate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► by old bluetooth headphones came back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/898">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► life then there are a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► suggested various kinds of earbuds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► with shoulder neck carniss things those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► things always look horrible to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► those always look like the worst develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► all worlds basically it's like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► this like you have the the discomfort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► earbuds and and all the crappy sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► that usually goes along with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► but you don't have like the tiny like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/924">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► you know tiny little size or wrap around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► the phone kind of cable you still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/927">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► crap you have to deal with and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► like I don't I don't get why everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► likes those please don't write in yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► and i completely agree with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► you just said they're very very many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► different flavors of this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► example of putting in the show notes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► the LG tone pro HPS 750 and again these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/943">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► completely agree with you at the thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► of having this thing resting on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/950">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► shoulders you also have an earbud seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► not for me but but definitely on paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/954">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► it sounds like it would be good because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/958">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► presumably it has forever long battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► life this particular set is also apt x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/961">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► looking into because they just seem very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► interesting to me is a bone in bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► conduction is that what it's called yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/974">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► bone conduction headphones and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► these works are you have these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► thats it pressing against your cheek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/980">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► bones and they vibrate your cheekbones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/981">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► which vibrates your head in the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/984">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► hopefully kind of in a not dangerous way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► a lot of people wrote in to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► that and i'm actually looking into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► as well so the aftershocks tracks as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► example that that'll be in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► notes too so if you're in a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► situation you can look at all those or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► just try to find an ancient power like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► have and do whatever magical incantation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► / sacrifices i did in order to get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► to work so I'm curious its penis because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► comfortably wear anything any year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► don't know the answer that i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► for all these looks like really tiny in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► ear bluetooth things what do they do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► remote control commands things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► volume and play pause and skip back seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► forward do they have buttons somehow for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► that like how do they do that well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► that's why the plantronics backbeat fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► are a popular choice i think because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► they have those bars the rest on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► shoulders of those those orbs that rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► on your shoulders that that I presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► have excuse me I'm sorry I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► myself backwards we try that all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► plantronics backbeat it is popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► because their ear buds but with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► panels on the outside of the year but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► that makes any sense at all and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► buttons are on there and additionally on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► those shoulder harness see things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► LG's and i think a few people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► recommended Sony's that were similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► design those I think have the buttons on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► those little like shoulder pad things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► whatever they are that rest on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► shoulder so i guess that works for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► but i can't speak for any like true to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► form earbuds and I did get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► recommendations actually I can't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► which one was the most popular but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► of recommendations for just straight-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► earbuds that have the cord behind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► but if i'm going to go that route I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► rather have like the the one of the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► i have today that just kind of rest on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► although that being said the more I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► about the air pods the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► they're going on my holiday list because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► it sounds like they're the best possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► solution in that they have almost enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► battery life if I listen all day long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► oh jay bird x2 is all said in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► on believe those are the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► recommended anyway so I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► airports are probably the best bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► because if i ever get up from my desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► for like any reason I can pop them back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► in a little Tic Tac holder and that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► probably give me enough juice to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► through the rest of the day so hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► Santa or the equivalent I guess Hanukkah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► Harry if you will hope he'll be good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► me this year and maybe i'll come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► a set of those moving on last piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► follow up on this I think will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► little bit more shared front of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► great könig had written a post earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► today about why your next iphone won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► be ceramic and if nothing else it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► screenshot of one of my favorite movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► of all time the hunt for red october but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► what great goes through in this post is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► why he thinks and that this is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► not going to be a thing and if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► know Greg he is uh i think a co-founder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► one of just a handful of employees of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► luma labs and they make the loop which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► is the camera strap i have on my big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► camera as we speak and that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► compensated by what was a gift but was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► from families or somebody paid actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► money for it it's really great i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► that thing and so Greg manufacturers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► stuff for living that's what he does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► his point which he had a very long essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► and it's worth reading every bit of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► quickly distill it down he said apples a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► hardware company and machined aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► is their primary platform at peak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► production apples manufacturing roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► a million iphones a day so for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► bring a whole new long cycle time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► process online the sort of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► would that ceramic would require they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► would need warehouses with tens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► thousands exchanging thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► machines already squared away and ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► to rock with thousands more machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► being built the machines that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► building the iphones they would need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► be thousands of those will probably need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► to be those machines would be needing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► be built to to add to the collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► freaking way that's gonna happen anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► soon and it's really worth reading all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► because I'm Way over simplifying it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► you should check it out we'll put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► the show notes one just have also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► like in order to to get the machines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► tooling and everything set up to produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► ceramic iphone cases at the scale need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► to to to you know to produce enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► iphone instrument to meet demand they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► could theoretically do it but not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► would it be like way way way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► machines and space and money and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► than what they have now but the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► it was like if they were even preparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► for that you couldn't hide that amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► of investment and effort like that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► take years to build up if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► going to do it and it would you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► would you would see that you would see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► people talking about noticing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► expenditures you see sources in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► supply chain talking about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► leaking information and apple acquiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► companies are staffing up you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► certain ways basically it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► would be such a massive undertaking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► just like stuff money and people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► disguising it as a car development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► program you're always billion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► will make a car who would believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► anyway some for the past i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► past now for a long time now i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► apple has to have been internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► looking for their next material after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► machine-to-machine little mage began [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► with the the macbook air the aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► age began something before that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► they settle the machined aluminum they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► had nice that my situation where so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► things they made started the block of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► aluminum and these computer-controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► James you know would carve out what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► wanted and they do that for so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► products and that's good because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► you've got sort of a solid thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► invest in things to become good at they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► buy all these machines the machines get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► faster so on and so forth the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► the the thing that Greg was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► about in the post is exactly how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► does it take to go from raw material to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► apart and ceramic takes longer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► machining aluminum because you gotta do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► the whole baking process or molding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► also its first seven and I am I looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► for the next material that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► research and I like oh you had mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► last show from carbon fibre some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► surround make a different things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► plastics I don't think they've found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► what their next thing is going to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► surely they are looking for it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► they're looking for something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► like a net win over luminous pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► it has something that somebody's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► to remove the way he does easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► machine 22 high tolerances that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► that it's a sort of a known quantity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► they can mess with the formulation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► the aluminum has a great points out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► not have to replace the machines right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► because they can all still not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► change from 6,000 6000 7000 series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► aluminum they can still use all the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► machines but it's got downsides to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► not radio transparent it bends scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► ability if you're going to have a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► gloss finish they haven't sorted out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► whatever so anyway feel like during all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► this time and where in this aluminum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► glass a chapel has to be looking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► next thing is eventually presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► they'll find it and when they do find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► there is going to be you know a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► ramp up into switching over i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► think you know this thing points out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► it what are you saying about the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► required to manufactured I i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► they can use ceramic unless they solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► that problem exists time is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► problems they can't really fix right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► if they decided some kind of ceramic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► combined with some other material like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► ceramic he says the N ceramic at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► outside and or something else instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► they decided this was the thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► it has more desirable qualities they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► have to get it down to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► they can manufacture it as quickly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► easily as aluminum or within that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► ballpark because they're not going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► manufacturing time they just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► sustain that I think is right that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► made that decision there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► such a long lead time that be a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► know about it but as discussed last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► like the next one's gonna be glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► glasses i think they already know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► their aid with the four in the forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► this glass in the current phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► that's the rumor it's not a big change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► it's a existing material if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► going to do anything with ceramic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► don't even think about it until like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► after you have two rounds of this glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► down the the whatever and whatever asks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► are you know actually I'm right now pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► up the phone the same and realize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► is not an S generation is actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► seven even though it looks the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► success anyway we're all confused now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► but yeah i still think that somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► out there in our future is apple's next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► material i remember the liquid metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► rumors he mentions that as well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► bought that little better company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► they had known if they made the sim I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► think they made the the same extractor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► to live liquid metal not really a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► return on investment for that company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► but I was another possibility can we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► we make can be like injection mold metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and come out with a part that it has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► the fine details already on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► it's liquid metal and it flows and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► like plastic but you get me anyway none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► I think the ceramic watch tells us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► of all the possible future materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► maybe ceramic had enough promise to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► well even if we've eliminated as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► possibility for our phone we can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► cool watch out because this marker point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► out that's not an unknown material on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► the watch world and you know they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► give it a try but it the requirements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► for a successor to aluminum on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► are pretty stringent and it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► that we have to work we have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► through a whole series of generations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► this glass phone before we even look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► you know carbon fiber or plastic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► doesn't look like plastic / l house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► they're going to do so speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► phones have you made it to the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► store it will recall i still have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► i'm so parenting again so like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► haven't had time to be running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► going to stores i still not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► made me up so i think i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► eventually because my wife is finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► starting to look at like watches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► bands and stuff and complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► the combinations that she would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► exist that don't complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► sport man colors that seemed not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► just anymore and so on anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► probably means I'm going to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► apple store at some point with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► looking at watches and that's that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► probably will get me there to mess with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► fair enough i'm curious to hear what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► think after you go and do it so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► coworker jamie has a jet-black i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► every time I look at my map black i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► convinced that it is i think in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► personal estimation my favorite iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► ever i just think it looks amazing and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► love it to death and then for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► reason or another all i'll grab Jamie's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► phone and then I wish so badly that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► was even a half as tacky as sticky as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► cheese filling because man that jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► black is so nice to hold I I i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► prefer the aesthetics of the mat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► gosh that jet black is so nice to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► have you considered pine tar MIT the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► pics right I'll tell you what you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► so you know now that another world few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► weeks and like my jet black one you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► 0i look this morning just like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► like it was upside down on the bed i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► doing was getting dressed and i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► some like you know how does how does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► back look now after a few weeks of views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► and I look and it's like there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► three fingerprints on it but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► that bad and like I had and I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► just been offering this is like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► organic discovery of the back of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► phone in the wild and like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► there a few fingerprints on it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► fine and there's a few small scratches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► that you can see in certain light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► it doesn't matter at all but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► single time I pick it up and hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► which is constantly during the day I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► so glad it feels good as it does yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► yeah I can understand that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► it's it's a tough call I think to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► jet black or or matte black it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► you mean because i think the jet-black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► absolutely wins on uncomfort I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► personally although it's a close call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► so it's a win win no matter how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► slice it yeah i agree with that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► we move on from the material that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► phone is made of assuming the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► rumors are true and they do the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► thing what do you guys think is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► likely successor material to aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► yeah i got there after whatever this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► next one is however long like the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► error last assuming the rumors true like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► it was because i have to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► apple continues to look for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► eventually it's not going to be aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► I don't think we can say for sure i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► gonna times you but I don't think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► say for sure that they necessarily have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► to replace aluminum I mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► certain things in the world that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► ended up being made of certain materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► for a very very long time because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► makes sense for physical physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► characteristics or for manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► ease or four cost or availability or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► scale or whatever else but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► certain things that always into being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► made of that material like airplanes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► made of aluminum because there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► reasons for that and like that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► there's nothing saying that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► gonna be good replacement for airplanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► unless there is pleased airplane Eric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► don't tell me I just let me believe one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► thing but there is like a very rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► plant example is a good one because for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► a long time out brains were made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► metal until people started working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► carbon fiber into airplanes into actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► airplanes that you know like a sold-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► it's not like they're all made of carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► fiber now but that became a viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► airplanes whereas it you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► beginning of our parents lives that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► atmosphere than existing wasn't using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► airplanes at all and aviation is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► slow to adopt new materials but slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► but surely basically over the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► our entire life suddenly carbon fiber is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► part of the formula of making a plane I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► think phones or less conservative in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► airplanes and especially since you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► airplanes have the constraint that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► otherwise why they even exist whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► it's people are cargo right but phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► that the form factor of a phone i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► in some respects until it is sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► images you know into it directly into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► our brain has to have something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► can look at you know assuming we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► everything else about it it's kind of up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► for grabs like aluminum it you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► if the electronics for a phone fit into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► something the thickness of a credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► aluminum is not the material for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► because once you have to think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► you can't make that out of aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► anymore because it will Bend and stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► bet and so it's a non-starter period you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► cannot do it out of a woman right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► if we get to that in our lifetime which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► i think is reasonable will be old men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► but you can keep making these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► that are in smaller than our in smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► and lighter weight and new screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► technology and so on and so forth we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► get pretty thin and once they get to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► certain thickness you can't use aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► anymore so I and then you probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► want to use glass because it's just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► fragile so you have to go to a material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► that's been denounced back and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► probably want to also go to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► that's lighter so I don't you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► you but it's reasonable to say though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► you could say in the next 20 years it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► a little glass that's it or just glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► and whatever a sandwich between it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► that what you're saying you can envision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► anything in the next like 20 years or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► that's not aluminum glass or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► combination i mean i don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► enough about materials and the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► behind them and then the status of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► current technologies like carbon fiber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► is a great example we know that might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► it i don't know I I no carbon fiber is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► right now it's it's not used in mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► quantities and a lot of places because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► of various like newness and cost issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► and things like that but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► about to know whether that's likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► be overcome and in the next few years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► carbon fiber I think would have many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► the same advantages of ceramic in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► way i assume its radio transparent i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► assume it can be very thin and light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► strong based on the little I know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► it so it seems like it could be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► cool but I don't know if they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► enough of it i mean if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► like where you might see it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► certainly the iphone is a very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► profit very high-profile prestigious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► device but it wouldn't surprise me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► you saw carbon fiber first appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► something lower volume that could maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► sell for even more maybe a macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► you know maybe you see a macbook pro you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► know lid casing or bottom casing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► maybe even the entire case made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► carbon fiber I have no idea but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► would be a place where like you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► actually really use more of a weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► savings and you could charge more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► have more of a profit margin to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► cover the cost of it and you would need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► to make as many of them as you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► make with the iphone so I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► they're going to use something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► carbon fiber probably gonna see it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► somewhere else not then the phone but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► I was going to say carbon fiber as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► but I i'm not i am not confident in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► idea because I thought that carbon fiber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► is just a nightmare to work with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► doesn't like splinter really badly if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► you kinda or maybe I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► fiberglass which I'm not recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► I'm just saying I just thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► I think carbon fiber does shatter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► lights and that one of the problems at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► yeah did I mean it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► thought exercise for sure but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► this is 3 blind men leading themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► you know I I don't that like Marcus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► don't know anything about materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► really so i'm not sure what's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► reasonable what would you say John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► basically agree with all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► you touched on like everything exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► same thing is Margo in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► that this was getting up with the credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► card type thing aluminum is great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► up to the point where you start reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► a certain minimum thickness and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► have the bending problem right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► aluminum is not all about springing back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► and it its we have a good analogy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► car industry where for many many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► cars were made of steel and then more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► exotic cars incorporated aluminum parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► manufacture don't remember when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► kids like I already had a little cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► nightmare to do bodywork on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► everyone knows how to do steel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► aluminum is harder to work with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► sorts of reasons that like making you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► know mechanics and body repair people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► will tell you that aluminum cars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► paying the but fast forward to today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► aluminum is everywhere it is trickling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► down the carline it's not just on exotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► what's on exotic supercars these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► ago super-hard is essentially entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► made out of carbon fiber like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► Koenigsegg one has carbon rubber wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► for crying out loud like and it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► let's find for carbon fiber for exotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► cars but carbon fiber just like aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► before I feel like will be trickling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► down and like seven on cars very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► especially a very expensive fancy cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► it'll be aluminum and steel but on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► lightweight model they will replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► certain parts with carbon fiber very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► often the roof the hood things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► thin not really load-bearing but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► large like marketing with the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► supposed to touch anything so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► should be bending but macbooks if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► make them really thin like think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► that's starting to push the limits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► been doing this if you want to go much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► thinner and you probably will be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► considering like that the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► probably faster than the current macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► and the iphone is a really small that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► if you want to go much thinner and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► want to make a more lightweight version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► of that that's more resilient making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► top case of a macbook pro active carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► fiber starts to make sense and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► carbon fiber i think is inevitably going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► to trickle down the automotive ladder in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► it's just the way the industry goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► manufacturing carbon fiber so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► that's my number one pick for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► successor because things will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► thinner it has the advantage of radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► transparency is really light is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► strong the difficulty is that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► like machine fine details into it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► more of a pain to deal with like hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► that the rest of the manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► industries starting with aviation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► supercars and coming down to regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► cars or ever will will start to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► manufacturing process that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► viable in a way that it is not now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► makes it viable for manufacturing phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► all the charms carbon fiber is not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► transparent so I don't know that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► that maybe another thing that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► tackle they could always just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► antennae lines smoothly etched into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► carbon fiber like they do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► aluminum today anyway there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► ya know ya know sometimes erratic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► ceramic the reason we're even talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► about that is because apple introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► this really shiny phone the scratches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► really easily i'm like oh well it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► be nice if it could be smooth but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► not scratchy and then that's how we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► the whole carbon fiber thing o carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► fiber shatters and chips and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► so forth all these all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► properties i feel like within the realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► of metals and ceramics and even plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► that's my second pic by the way carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► fiber is my exciting pick my boring pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► is as you get really really thin you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► know what for something the size of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► phone not necessarily the size of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► laptop or something the size of a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► maybe not the big phone plastic that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► a lot has a lot of desirable qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► plastic we know all that plastic it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► scratches more easily than the hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► metals it will shatter eventually but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► bends in springs back and can take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and you still got the problem of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► screen floating out there we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► even talked about mostly just talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► about the back of the thing i don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► any anything other than glass for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► front of the thing until the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► is Benny piece of plastic and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► can have it be glass at all because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► whole thing is like a row you can roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► it up or whatever and you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► that out of class and then we just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► to accept that it's plastic and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► so cheap that if you get scratched up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► you just go to the apple store and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► give you a new one for 50 bucks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► something but will be dead then so don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2277">TS</a>]
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00:39:19 ◼ ► there's been a brouhaha there's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► kerfuffle there's been i'm out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► adjectives so there's been a thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► apple and an independent developer are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► kind-of sort-of duking it out and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► not usually happy for anyone involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► and particularly for those watching from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► the sidelines because oftentimes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► has pretty big implications on on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► own business so i'm trying to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► there's so many angles to this story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► i'm i'm trying to figure out the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► way to summarize and we'll put links in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► the show notes to MJ sighs summary post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► there's two of them and they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► Michael sighs but the super super quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► version and then we'll add details in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► moment is that this gentleman bog dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► and I don't have a blessing funny but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► anyway uh pesco he had released many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► apps may be but certainly in disputed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► Lee was the author of an app called dash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► which I actually haven't used which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► everything mr. now its from everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► i've ever heard it is phenomenal and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► don't say that sarcastically but to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► the built-in exco documentation like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► no safari usually because I don't trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► the built-in stuff search abilities but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► anyway I identical sucks but yeah so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► will be the first to admit I'm missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► out on this and in again I'm not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► everything i've ever heard from anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► well all of a sudden his developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► maybe that's a little bit up for debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► but all of a sudden get shut down he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► kind of tries to talk to apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► get a lot of information out of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► eventually starts posting about it's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► at people other independent developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► like Marco for example starting to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► hey this doesn't feel right what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► eventually he gets in contact with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► progress then Apple goes to the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► and says well he's getting booted from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► the app store because he's done some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► meanwhile bogdan is thinking well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► thought we were still in the midst of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► dialogue what's going on here so then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► writes his own post again links will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► in the show notes I've writes his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► post that includes among other things a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► roughly 10 minute phone call recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► of a 10-minute phone call between him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► and an apple representative which i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► not sure that was the most morally sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► choice but i can understand why I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► and then since all this happened the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► armchair archaeologists have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► digging into what's going on and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► or not things are awry because it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► to be that the disconnect is there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► two accounts that were linked in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► way shape or form the the method of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► Lincoln how end and how tenuous that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► link was is up for debate but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► clear that there's absolutely a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► between two different developer accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► and one of the accounts it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► everyone involved isn't debating that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► was involved in some kind of shady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► practices trying to buy good reviews for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► their own apps trying to put bad reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► for competitors apps and just generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► being shady now bogdan's perspective is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► hey I open that account for a relative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► of mine i did it using my credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► because in other countries having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► credit card isn't necessarily a given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► like it's sort of is in America and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► they're the ones that are doing all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► nefarious terrible things i'm not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► getting i'm just collateral damage here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► so there was some back and forth like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► apparently wanted him to write a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► post saying basically hey apple just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► confused but we've straightened it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► it's all good now and then he allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► would have been allowed to get back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► escalated with the phone call and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► believe before Apple escalated by going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► so there's a lot of other avenues here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► the armchair archaeologists seem to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► found a lot of different ways that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► to all the shady apps actually having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► been him as well and not some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► relative and we can go into that if need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► be but this is one of those that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► nations where everyone seems wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► everyone seems right and nobody's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► what what the real story is which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► it very interesting and many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► joked that maybe cereal season 3 will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► of help that but but but it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► make heads or tails of it and and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► not sure if i had to choose sides who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► side with and I think the reality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► situation is i kinda side with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► inside with neither all at once which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► know is kind of a cop-out but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► really how I feel so let's start by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► asking before we get into our opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► about this is that a relatively ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► summary did I miss any really important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► I think you got it i mean i think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► characterization of what Apple wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► him to do in that blog post is is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► alright John any other thoughts going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► say that uh some of the it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► uh we have the rough timeline of events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► from the outside but because Apple is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► tight-lipped about everything I i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► feel like we don't really have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► side of the story they're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► give it to us right so we it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► like we have the black hole that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► apple and then we have a leak of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► discussion for the developer but apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► never apples not going to for instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► like it would you characterize your like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► oh then Apple went to the press with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► this thing that said this thing like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► have no idea if that statement was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► written and distributed through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► bureaucracy before that call even took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► place and apples not going to clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► they're not going to go by the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► may think you've heard this but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► actually this is that when I can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► if it's like not our business what goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► on inside their company and also i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► like the the communication I the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► communications all the different sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► my recollection is that basically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► doesn't tell you the details to let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► know all the nuances that the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► blog post went into but it also doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► say anything that is false from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► terminology which will be sure we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► into later like from Apple's perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► this is the real system this is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► are the set of rules they matched on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► this particular set of behavior they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► and that's what they're distributing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► apple is basically putting that out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► response to the original careful about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► 10 developers getting squished again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► so I would say that like it's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► to know is a difficult to know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► side of the story like we get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► developer side is a developer not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► is free to say whatever he wants to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► public but seems very willing to say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► do whatever feels like the public which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► is fine but Apple is totally unwilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► to do that so I still feel like we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► all at a disadvantage on the outside in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► terms of knowing what the real deal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► yeah i mean i-i think trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► out all the details of what happened is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► not productive for any of us possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► even them because you know we weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► these are private communications for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► most part we have seen very little of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► them we don't really know this developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► well you know we use app but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► none of us know him to know like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► sure you know how complete he's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► being who knows you know it and we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► don't know if Apple's being complete and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► truthful in their statements we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► way to evaluate these these really you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► know so all we can really do is is try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► to judge this or first week we can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► ignore it which is one valid option I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► think are the the communities initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► reaction of hey this looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► mistake because this app you know before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► we knew about the second account with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► all the other crazy apps like this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► legitimate five star reviews what need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► would this person have to buy fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► reviews or to get suspended like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► seemed ridiculous and so we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► hey this doesn't look right can somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► apple-like look into this again or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► explain this like that was the main just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► everyone's demand last week when it blew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► well the the reason he was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► it all is because he made an initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► blog post read you might be wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► here's the deal I'm not sure what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► going on but they said my account is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► pulled and it's and I can appeal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► process like so that's how that's why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► knew about it at all because he went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► the public and said to explain why his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► apps are certainly not available because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► people use apples popular and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► I think the main thing I think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► take away from this entire thing is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► reacts to it like because reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► doesn't happen in a vacuum so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► context of all the past history so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► we all collectively saw this story from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► a developer and there was any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► reason we saw because we all do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► where in the traveling developer circles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► online and developer blogs and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► anyway when we saw that because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► enforcement and policies that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► that don't seem right to developers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► you know the history of conflict the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► history of arbitrary decisions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► community of developers in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► shouldn't be or you know honest mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► or whatever that context is why we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► this reaction because it's not this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► event is not a thing this event just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► highlights hey how does the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► developer community feel about Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► the app store at this moment in time are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► do they give Apple the benefit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► doubt that they give developers but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► like it so clearly showed that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► current context despite positive changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► is that we will all readily believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► the giant faceless bureaucracy that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► the apple app store i can and does do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► best-case mistakes or worst case like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► just wrongheaded decisions right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► that's that I feel like was at it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► know part of a tumor marker right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► that like this is a good app and we kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► of like you know do virtual transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► therefore developer good which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► valid transfer but you're like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► didn't seem like if you've got a quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► of the people like that that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► known for what reason do you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► she'd interviews or anything before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► do that but like it just seemed like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► right and and but I really think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► most important thing is that the tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► takeaway from this is that people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► developers still don't trust that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► going to do the right thing and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► when they see anything that even looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► like one of those past situations where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► something that was not productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► they will immediately believe it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► you know they'll know they have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► progress when a similar event happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► and the reaction from the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► community is not immediate suspicion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► that Apple has screwed a small developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► yeah and and i think at you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► apples-to-apples credit though this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► ability to totally terminate somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► developer account is probably used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► fraudulent accounts that are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► their you know conducting fraud or spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► or scams or something that they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► turn it turn a developer account every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► day and I can't think I mean maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► wrong please let me know if i'm wrong i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► instance in the eight years of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► store where it seemed like someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► developer account was terminated wrongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► has that ever happened that we that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► learned about well I mean the equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► is like we're rejecting your update even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► though you've gotta crash here for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► terminate your developer account but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► effectively effectively it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► thing and noe i mean this is more severe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► and this is what this is much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► severe it is but like see the reason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► reason I think you don't see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► complain about termination is because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► I think you're right the termination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► happens all the time but it happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► known bad actors and it's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► cost of doing business in on bad actress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► bad actors get their countermand all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► time there's open a new one like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► their business is open up a new account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► do something against the rules if as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► long as you can when your account gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► closed open up another one like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► that's their entire mo like that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► life's the life cycle of the fraudster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► coming up star is right and so of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► they're not going to complain about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► why would think that's just like how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► system works from their perspective so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► think this is just a you know that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► the the legitimate developers have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► review problems or whatever they'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► shut down this looks like a cross over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► those two worlds the rolled over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► were no one ever complains but everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► knows you're going to shut down like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3118">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► week or two but sometimes it's slow bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► you can make a lot of money in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► meantime and then this world over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► where it's like historically sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► apple rejected legitimate application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► and be frustrating or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► eventually you'll get through it except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► for the people who are like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► after this type are no longer allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► development that's also very similar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► terms like oh we don't want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► launch wraps for a couple years or but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► don't know that's a good example that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► that where Apple categorically decides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► that this type of application is allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► anymore even though we have previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► allowed it but this is like crossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► over of and because and it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► much of a crossover because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► like you said everyone agrees there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► some kind of fraudulent activity on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► where the argument is whether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► fraudulent activity should meet this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► other account gets closed right so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► the only question is is that meeting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► know is it legitimate to do collective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► punishment because the accounts use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► same test devices in the same credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► card number which from a perspective is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► the only way they have to tell they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► can't see what's inside the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► right so that you can get that all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► have this data and their data says same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► test devices same credit card number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► same legal entity and you know from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► legal perspective like not from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► practical perspective from a legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► perspective like that's how the Apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► system works that's how developer thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► works there they want information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► you to connect to it is essentially to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► connect to entity that they can sue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► that is legally represented writing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► information they used to establish what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► the entity is for multiple accounts it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► all the same entity like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► whole point of you doing this like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► has multiple attention multiple things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► for your various yeah like right and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► that's like it if they were all come you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► know separate or combined like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► how things work in the business world we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► don't care what physical person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► sitting for another thing they just care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► what the legal entity is and where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► liability lives right now the more human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► side of it is what if you do live in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► country where it's not easy credit cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► and you do a favor for somebody and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► you're not a lawyer and not thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► about the fact that now you essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► are legally vouching for the activities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► of this other account right i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► apple would be entirely in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► then probably totally in there legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► somewhere that says hey if you use all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► the same legal and contact information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► from multiple accounts you are legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► responsible like you know that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► essentially absorb the liability for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► other person is if you started a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► and then you know your friend came in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► and wrote all the code but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► published it as the legal entity you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► legally responsible your friends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► all I didn't write all the code he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► like doesn't matter that's not how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► law works right for the most part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► wire that and so in this situation Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► probably could have just said these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► this is the data is irrefutable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► you know we all agree on the facts here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► and so therefore your account is closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► but it's not what Apple did what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► did instead is tried to communicate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► this developer to work things out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► because there and that is the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► alright so the app works with developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► does do all of us here in the peanut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► gallery and apple developer community do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► we immediately suspect that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► reason they were working out is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► this person made a blog post that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► happened beforehand so here's well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► here's what happened and this is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► think if i can look at this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► situation if I can point to 22 things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► that i would say we're like bad moves i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► think one it was apple bad move and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► was the developers bad move the apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► bad move was when they first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► detecting all of this fraud on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► account they did consider the fraud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► account and the dash account to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► logically link because they both were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► made by the same credit card and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► both they both use some of the same test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► devices so they considered that enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► of a correlation to consider them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► logically linked and and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► that alone right there considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► account an account logically link for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► the purpose of fraud detection based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► the same credit card being used and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► same device being used i think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► reasonable assumption i think Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► totally fine to do that the error that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► Apple made that i would say was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► the the one big big mistake that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► apple's fault in the way this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► handled is that when Apple detected the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► fraud on the other account they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► contacted that account email address to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► talk about and try to fix the fraud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► issue and only they said when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► like issuing the warnings basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► only contacted the fraud one not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► other one that was logically link to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► but why do you think that's a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► like you think it's a mistake because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► seems like unfair or whatever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► think like from you know policy-wise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► think it is a reasonable policy to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► that you know the the like who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► responsible for the actions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► account well the responsibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► accidents account ties back to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► legal entity you know as we define it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► the information you enter when you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► your Apple ID right if that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► policy and then they see fraudulent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► activity and then they also policy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► any uh all of the accounts that are tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► to that same legal entity gets shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► i don't see anywhere where there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► specific need to carefully communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► with each one of them to give each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► of the the connected legal entities a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► chance to explain or something that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► nice thing to do and we all think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► policy-wise like you know as many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► pointed out if you get shut down my like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► people paypal or ebay or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► that like no one's going to give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► nice phone call ask you to like explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► yourself to them or whatever to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► communication in case they're separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► people and so like it's it's asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► Apple to foresee the situation as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► described by the developer that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► was two different people and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► sharing credit card and I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► what was going on this count for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► and so on and so forth are like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► it is a reasonable policy for a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► to say this is just how the rules work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► if you don't like it you you developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► have made a mistake by legally vouching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► for a someone again you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► committing fraud over years you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► idea about it that's your bad that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► our bed we can just shut them all down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► right now and i was getting back to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► we thought about this when we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► about it is like why why is someone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► the phone because we heard the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► call that you know that he put my why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► someone on the phone trying to work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► out with this person is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► mostly because you know it like do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► think it's because this is a popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► developer and it's a developer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► popular with other developers because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► is that why someone from apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► bending over backwards because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► what makes this one different verses if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► this had just been one of those you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► fraud developers who got their account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► close to everything apple and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► cases for fraud is on the phone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► each one of them saying oh let me hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► what you say about all will try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► your account back I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► happening and the reason we think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► is part of the anger of like the old app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► review guidelines that were like never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► run to the press that doesn't help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► know remember that old one that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► the guidelines that was Steve Jobs style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► badmouth us in public type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► that's where the root of all this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► coming from the risk of like when we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► this at least me specifically when i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► this i think apple is bending over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► backwards a because they're trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► would be a little bit because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► person made a blog post and presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► their side of the story and apple feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► like this is you know they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► looking bad they don't look like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► don't want to be the bad guy but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► cases where they do something like close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► an account and they just never hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► anything about it nobody blogs Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► know feel okay about like I guess we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► weren't the bag i feel like the removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► of don't run to the press is removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► partly because it recognizes that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► that's the only way Apple has to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► whether something they've done might've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► been inadvertently meaner than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► the only way they can tell is if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► public outcry you know because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► developer whatever like he can't ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► entire infrastructure an apple to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► dashes and how popular it is and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► a good person I can't do that forever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► too much right and so I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► signal the public outcry and complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► on Twitter and other developers looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► at a scan something maybe something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► reader is actually an important feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► of the system as it currently exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► quote-unquote working and I'm glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► guideline was removed by saying don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► want to the press because i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► essential part of the process at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► yeah unfortunately it is but anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► so bad back to what happened here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► I honestly don't spend a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► time on this because i think it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► very productive so I i think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► summarize basically you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► Apple I disagree with you on on like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► them notifying multiple accounts and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► think if they're going to shut down an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► account which is a severe action they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► should notify it beforehand and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► after determination and the first round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► blog post somebody from Apple called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► developer and developer recorded this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► the developers in Romania where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3658">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► legal the gist of it was that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► apple guy was trying very hard to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► this out you can tell that they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► to work this out you know Apple want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► make sure that that the correct story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► their opinion was told they suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► maybe he could write a blog post and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► they they basically wanted two key facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► to be in the blog post these accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► are linked so Apple was not mistaken to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► suspend it there was fraudulent account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► and he was working with Apple to unlink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► the accounts and get back on the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► store and they went over this back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► forth a few times and it sounded like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► the developer was not very happy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► the the freezing of this about the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► that Apple didn't make a mistake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► then he says he submitted this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► draft post which later poster's website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► he said he submitted that to them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► could tell on the call though that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► they were he was there was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► friction he definitely did not seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► happy about what he what he was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► asked to to agree to and then a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► later Apple tells the press this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► indeed justified there was lots of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► this account we tried to work it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► with the developer but couldn't reach a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► and so I think if you can if you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► try to like connect the dots between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► things it seems like he had apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► couldn't agree on what almost what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► was going to how he was going to prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► these these facts of the case or how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► going to work things it seems like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► most likely got whatever he submitted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► them decided this was not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► resolvable or was not basically decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► negotiations were over and this was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► going to work out and then the statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► to the press is basically they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► shutting the door you know we're only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► we're not hearing was before or after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► this part of the call were not part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► we don't know anything communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► happens separately from this call so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► things could have been more tense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► hostile than what's shown here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► what's shown there is slightly tense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► hospital from the developer so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► know if Apple was in the right or wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► to close the door on this when they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► but that certainly seems like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► what happened and based on the the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► conflicting attitudes in the phone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► I think that's very likely the case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► that you know they just decided this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► not going to resolved that you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► were they were not gonna reach agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► and and they were gonna eat because from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► a point of view they want to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► that they control the narrative here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► it's very it was very clear from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► that recorder call from the apple rep on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► that call like Apple wanted to make very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► sure that everyone knew that they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► innocent account that there was fraud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► that was linked to this account and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► they wanted to make very clear that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► the story that got out that the facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► Apple did not just mess up because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► would be really bad if they just messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► up and suspended an account that had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► connection any problems whatsoever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► like because that is a very severe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► action and clearly running the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► in eight years and this is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3838">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► time we're hearing of a bad developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► account suspension clearly they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► pretty good job and they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► careful most of time with when taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► that action so they clearly wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► make sure that fact was out there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► it was indeed linked to this account and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► that basically that they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► development forward so I think they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► actually being very reasonable there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► through whatever reason whether it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► education or attitudes or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► was they couldn't work it out and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► that sux and there was a good post today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► on their neighbors here I think I'm or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► that was basically like how do we move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► forward from here and the gist of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► basically like look we all know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► facts now like let's just like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► should just reactivate hit you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► good account just reactivate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► account like that's how we move forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► is like everyone basically suck it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► talking about just reactivate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► everybody because like the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► this is like you know this is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► app at a store for this reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► you know it or at least like like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► app in this account probably didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► deserve it assuming the developer tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► the truth in this was some relative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► not just like him with a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► and secondly this really sucks for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► customers of this app because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► bought this app like i did in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► app store you can even redownloaded like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► when the developer account suspended the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► app is gone it doesn't show up in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► purchases tab it doesn't show up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► searches it is gone you can't redownload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► it and that sucks if you bought it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► does kind of suck the way the way things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► are left now even though I can look back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► at at what Apple did and I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► was in the right based on just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► little bit that we can that we can know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► and and the little bits and pieces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► you can pick up i think Apple did pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► much the right thing the whole way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► through here with the exception of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► not only not notifying all the accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► for termination but besides that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► apples in the right and they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► handle it very well and they seem to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► in way more effort i mean like the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► of was saying that Phil Schiller was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► personally involved in trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► this sub like and I believe that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► knowing the way these things work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► believe that and select the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► you could have some Lakes like phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► schiller trying to get this fixed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► apple dividing this way that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► resolve this get back in the store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► presenting it to the developer that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► it really did seem like Apple was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► above and beyond try to fix this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► they really didn't need to this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► it's nice that they did and i hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► if I ever on the wrong end of this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► hope that I hope that the same thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► me but it's really really above and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► beyond they didn't have to do this they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► didn't have to get this guy away back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► they didn't have to call him and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► offer the this kind of you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► kind of like olive branch there look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► if we if you can just agree these few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► statements then we can get back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► day they didn't do any of that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► did it all they really obviously wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► to solve this in a in a decent way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► again through whatever reason they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► not reach agreement with the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► on something that I think honestly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► developer made a huge mistake and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4018">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► way that he handled that I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► should have just said they wanted to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► because it wasn't it wasn't bad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► incorrect so from outside of this again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► looking like when we all heard the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► what do we all think of what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► say about how we view apple now sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► at the conclusion of this I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► apple kind of got a positive results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► here like because in the beginning were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► all I go apples doing something bad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► the app store again and we've seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► story so many times and were immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► suspicious right by the end of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► especially for any developer who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► paying enough attention to like read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► the details that we just discussed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► read the blog post by the end of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► think most legitimate developers come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► away thinking if this happens to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► legitimate chance because I first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► I think most developers understand uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► that the developer made a mistake here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► like not a mistake like that essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► by by by tying himself legally to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► other account he is he is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► responsible for right and I'm hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► that most developers would understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► that like that if you use your credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► card number and your test device maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► that's not obvious to anybody but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► the story i guess it is so maybe before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► the story you could say no but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► understanding like you know you see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► they were tied to that and you despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► that Apple made an effort to to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► make things right and i think that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► thing is comforting to developers should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► feel like you know developer the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► developers who would never do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► wrong like that they're like if i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► myself in a situation where I have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► know unintentionally got myself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► Tangled away their idea either i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► understand or trusted somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► you've never trusted but you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► will I just be sol or will i be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► and the only with the exception of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► fact that it's not clear that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► would have been engaged at all if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► hadn't court run to the press which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► really just means put a post on his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► personal blog and have a popular app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► like with the exception of that well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► still think it's a concern like hey what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► about my scrap nobody loves my up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► they love dash my post on my blog no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► maybe i would still be sol right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► with the exception of that caveat I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► think apples actions are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► reassuring legitimate developers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► yeah Marco says like if if the gold this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► developer was to be able to continue his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► software as popular application he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► bad choices you can imagine you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► decide do you do you want to be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► and be like righteous and be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► refuse to admit to even any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► wrongdoing or being linked or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► apples beyond for or do you just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► your account back because they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4185">TS</a>]
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01:16:19 ◼ ► ATP for a 14-day free trial and got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► twenty percent off your first invoice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► with offer code ATP thanks to kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► for sponsoring ah so Marco tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► dropbox is making questionable choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► in in recent times there was a thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► couple weeks back where dropbox was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► basically discovered to be hacking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► this is actually i believe it's fixed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► Sierra but basically Mac os10 has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► certain separate security level for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► accessibility related apps and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► allows apps to to see way more system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► events things like capture and keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► input and stuff like that you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► if you are an accessibility app you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► basically see and and intercept and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► track everything happening on the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► things that are considered secure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► can you can still do you have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► them whereas most apps would not be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► to do things like log every keystroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► and that's you know everytime dinners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► things like that right and so drop box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► in order to to achieve certain features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► dropbox was forcefully injecting itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► into the list of of apps using a prompt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► the prompt you for your password that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► looked like the system password box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► how it was the system password box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► that's why i put this thing is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► it was yeah okay so like that you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► is this i have this to before Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► started crying about dropbox I had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► item in the notice that actually still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► blow their about dropboxes accessibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► quote-unquote hack because the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► stories about this were like so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► observed this is the observed behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► which everyone agrees with crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► observed behavior is dropbox it wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► you to turn on accessibility but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► say no I people you know and take and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► take it out the next time it comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► we'll just try to put itself back like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► if you go to the system preferences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► remove it right and then you just reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► like it'll be back again and so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► the user hostile behavior because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► user disabled it and then unbeknownst to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► them maybe just launched it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► put itself back and so the question was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► among the people who first saw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► programmers or particular technical was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► like it must be saving my admin password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► because i entered my men password to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► allow it to do this stuff with them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► want to system preferences and turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► off the only way they could be possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► turning it back on automatically which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► is this user hostile behavior that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► observed is that it must have saved my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► men password which would indeed be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► horrible but anybody who knows anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► about you know Mac os10 or whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► hell is called now and you still never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► knows like they would never save your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► password that is the stupidest possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► way to get the thing they want because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► once you enter your admin password they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► don't need your name and password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► anymore right and so yeah so they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► save your name and password which would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► be an end and you can't totally discount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► because we all hear about these websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► saving people's passwords in plain tex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► so never never overestimate the security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► intelligence of people writing code but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► dropbox is a big company and its really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► hard for me to believe they'd recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► had done they don't honestly I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► have believed that I i hit by the time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► read the story it was already discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► password but I would not rule out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► confidence because dropbox has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► money and they have smart developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► right and the reason I think it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► matter of competence it's a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► it's not it's a matter of confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► because to do the thing they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► which we all agree is hostile they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► need your password more than once once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► they enter it like what they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► there's makes that uid executable like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► everybody knows that anyone's done any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► units hacking like as soon as you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► root access the first thing you do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► make set uid executables second uid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► shell so you can get back like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► like you given them heard men password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► they're like not to Dokdo chance check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► the set uid bit on these seat Joe now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► have reset uid route executables done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► and done they don't need your password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► and so that that is you know and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► that what they use and it doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► password you are essentially saying by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► giving you this admin password you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► have free reign of the whole system not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► just momentarily but because once i give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► it to you you can immediately makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► uid executable as whatever and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► that you know it's alright the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► system integrity protection protects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► against that because it's like Oh even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► with root access you can modify these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► files or whatever but anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► there's that so that was his competence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► like the best way to do this user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► hostile behavior is not to store their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► passwords you like they're smart they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► not going to do that and they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► do it the smarter way to do this user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► the second aspect of the part that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► hack part is like once you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► access it still doesn't mean you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► go directly to the sequel like databases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► start mucking with it's like using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► private guys it's like Apple like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► don't know what the structure our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► databases just because you look in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► and see a bunch of tables and columns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► and think you know how to hack it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► that's not that's not a public API it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► not guaranteed since the same reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► want to use in private api's you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► supposed to even be looking at stuff we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► reserve the right to change that anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► so that is the quote unquote hack part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► of it is that don't directly access our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► databases behind-the-scenes we provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► api's you have to use those you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► underlying storage isn't and directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► mess with it so that is I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► they were doing it that way maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► the easiest way to secretly do it behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► the scenes but it's terrible and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► maintenance headache because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► once you use a private api like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► whether you know it or not you're now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► the hook to track every little change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► Apple does to their internals instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► just tracking their api discs because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► any moment at any point release they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► could totally change the structure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► that database and your Apple blow up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► it's totally your fault because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► screw things up so that I would say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► the best example of them doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► that's not a good developer practice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► changing your password is totally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► misunderstanding of of the the fact they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► just they don't need your password like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► they're they would never do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► dumpy they have everything they need and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► however they were doing it dropbox was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► really inappropriately hacking the TCC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► database the accessibility database to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► to inject themselves forcefully even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► you remove them so that to me is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► offense number one for you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► this is not good and this is there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► are eroding trust that i have in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► and the ability and the willingness I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► literally everything on my computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► defensive this as LinkedIn i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► probably have the hackers news link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► developer talks about their defense is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► actually plausible as a mean you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► just you still say like this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► socially acceptable behavior especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► among tech savvy users but I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► where company like Dropbox can get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► a situation where it thinks this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► right thing to do and it's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► that when you install an application if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► they have these one-time prompts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► you answer coral growth the wrong way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► like you didn't understand what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► was you just hit cancel or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► now you don't have like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► find your integration that you expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► legitimate support issue that enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► people click the wrong box and at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► time setup thing and they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► Dropbox doesn't work when i see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► friends computer there is little Badgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► of these little whatever like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► features accessibility providing is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► working dropbox is broken and i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► imagine that being a popular support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► request and then they have to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► people through all I go to the thing go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► to accessibility click the lock icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► go like to basically re-enable it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► then the the sort of cutting the Gordian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► knot solution becomes you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► complicated they don't understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► we mean by accessibility they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► to type in their main password they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► scared by why don't we just like if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► ever enter their main password put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► little insurance but this berry sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► password put them there and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► what it actually is definitely gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► turned off by a point release or an OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► update or whatever so we won't hear from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► people saying hey drop box is broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► again why don't we just turn it on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► it's paternalistic it's like they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► even know we do it we'll do it behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► the scenes they won't see any you i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► cut down on our support request that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► think is the headspace that they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► into it's not particularly nefarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► they're just trying to solve a support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► problem but they eventually that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► wrap themselves up in knots to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► they think they're actually doing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► whereas we all realize you've gone too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► far in the hopes of like let's make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► smooth experience for most users at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► expensive being sneaky and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► wrong thing to do but i think it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► done because they are malicious or bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► developers think it's actually because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► experience better for everybody like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► don't we just solve this why are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► bothering users with this crap why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► we just make drop people just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► Dropbox to work like Dropbox we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► technology we can just make it work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► that's I think where they went wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► that that feature and the thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► if you're going to you know basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► developers of and platform owners have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► of like we know better than our users so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► we're just going to do it for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► we're gonna do things the way we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► are right for you and you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► go along for the ride because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► going to be best for you and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► and there's there's a place for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► there's lots of places where that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► the most pragmatic or the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► solution or or position to take but as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► user I want to make sure that whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► software i am granting that level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► control too i want to make sure that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► agree with their judgment in general and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► and their their technical abilities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► their way of doing things and if i start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► integrity or or skill then I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► them making decisions for me and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► things behind my back and and and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► access that I don't believe that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► need and things like that that becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► trust issue of insecurity issue and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► lots of other potential problems so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► or is that accessibility hack I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► shows poor judgment and I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► irresponsible the way they did that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► did Apple which is why Apple made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► impossible putting the accessibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► stuff into system integrity protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► in Sierra and apple is one such as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► know Apple is one of these companies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► or apple in many ways Apple apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► implied position is basically we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► best we're gonna do this for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► you're not gonna have control and and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► you're an apple customer or user you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► have to basically decide like do i do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► trust apple with this control and do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► generally agree with their judgment or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► you know in order to have to give this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► control happily without problems right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► and a lot of people who don't like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► product you don't use a product the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► reason they don't use apple products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► because they don't want to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► positions in those areas and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► they don't trust Apple to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► level of ability and that's fine right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► and my issue here with dropbox is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► they make decisions like this they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► like the it in their beta channel which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► is still in beta granted but in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► beta channel they recently quote tested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► a toolbar that was like injected into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► Finder windows just make sure this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► like to wear which it looks like malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► like was detected in the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► window and it's like no that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► why who thought that was a good idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► that's just a bad feature being rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► as a baby and everyone you know the try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► it on ebay user all users go that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► awful right but like the this physics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► injecting that you will eventually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► to this I think later but like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► basically accion the finder you do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► the little badges in the icons like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► is that is the product we all fell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► love with his boys that one didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► literally inject itself into the finder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► process to do this to look like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► worst kind of hack the worst kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► totally unsupportable unsupported hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► and I think a lot of the reason I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► that's the Apple came to to to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► using and we liked it and we like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► badges we like you know they gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► some reassurance raincheck Markets Inc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► little blue thing it's not like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► that's that's dropbox they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► that feature it would have been a lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► product and because the people who did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► it were clever enough to get it done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► a way that didn't some late cause the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► finder to be crashing left and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► and we're able to chase Apple as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► updated the finder and keep it working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► and so on so forth to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► Apple eventually said dropbox is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► popular and badging things is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► that people actually want to do we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► going to add an official AP office they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► finally did the taxis pass on the grass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► thing that been talking about all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► years ago was like look at what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► are using if you don't want them to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► the disgusting hack to use this feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► making officially supported API and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► pretty sure I'm some i'm sure people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► will send an email from wrong it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► a pretty sure the dropbox did eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► adopt that official API rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► continuing the hackers that we drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► boxes and when i do that hack they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► love to have a support ABI presumably if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► the support API does everything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► dropbox needed to do this of course they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► would adopt it and I think they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► the later versions that's not really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► system working like but during all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► time we were all like yeah badges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► alright so it's not so much that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► added a hack for this is that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► say the fact that someone thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► was a statically pleasing inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5389">TS</a>]
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01:31:13 ◼ ► shouldn't be drinking from the fs events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5473">TS</a>]
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01:31:21 ◼ ► so forth that is a legit complaint but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► personally you to think about while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► you're at your end of your rope about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5487">TS</a>]
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01:31:32 ◼ ► become aware of it recently doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► it's not something that has been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5494">TS</a>]
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01:32:15 ◼ ► their photos and dropbox all they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5535">TS</a>]
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01:32:40 ◼ ► continues going down a path i disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5560">TS</a>]
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01:34:57 ◼ ► there's any alternatives to dropbox I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► could switch to and then and how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► would look how that would work what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► know what I would have to move or change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► about my work flows are set up to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► really achieve that and like I I you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► much for dropping that like I have my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► one password sync is there i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5710">TS</a>]
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01:35:14 ◼ ► entire blog engine is based on dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► sinking and editable text files are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► dropbox folder and the way edit my blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► on my phone is by using dropboxing text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► editors so it it would be non-trivial to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► switch off at once mentioned one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► biggest thing about dropbox shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5729">TS</a>]
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01:35:36 ◼ ► audio files to me after each show that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► how we that's where we put like any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► of shared files things like artwork and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5740">TS</a>]
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01:35:44 ◼ ► so many people like when you're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► with small group of people especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5746">TS</a>]
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01:35:54 ◼ ► in that work group in some way so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► really is not trivial to switch away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► there aren't a whole lot of solutions on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► how to switch away like assuming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► want the same kind of thing there's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► don't like five or six different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5767">TS</a>]
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01:37:02 ◼ ► know because it is probably a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► small audience thing I worry again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► app support that's why if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► to try one if it in a world without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► without like mobile devices are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► thinking between two computers i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► probably try see file because that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► like it is that it is the best regarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► in that way but because we're in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► world of like mobile and you need things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► like apps and stuff I think BitTorrent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► sync extremely resilient is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► one to use that seems like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► popular alternative that is roughly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► I'm looking for I go with the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► names like I've used like box fault for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► ya voluntarily a multi-use box it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► did not like but it is very dropbox like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► that's great that's what I'm looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► yeah Google Drive obviously widely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► supported is available on mobile it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► works more or less like Dropbox i do use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► that voluntarily both at work and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► home and if I feel like if i if i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► going off dropbox for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► that's probably where I would go because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► it is very widely supported i already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► know i'm in to the Google ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► pretty well yeah so but i haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► any problems with it i can't save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► exercise as much as Dropbox basically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► don't run google drive unless i needed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► launched it i use the web UI line and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► i wanted to be on my mac i launched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► do whatever I need to do and then quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► so obviously i'm not giving the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► workout the dropbox does but that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► to me the most obvious well-supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► reasonable alternative i have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► how it behaves in terms of nice into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► I know lots of Google stuff annoys me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► when you give it your root password at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► some of your admin password at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► point and it gets admin privileges it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► installs all sorts of little Watchers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► make sure that all the google apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► kept up to date which is kind of nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► but also kind of creepy when like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► dialog pops up asking it updated google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► app that you haven't launched in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► year and a half and you're like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► that has been that been running on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► system trying to make sure google earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► is up-to-date that I haven't launched in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► forever like go away whatever their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► Keystone process like I don't like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► but you know maybe that's what's keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► me away from those in and on dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► understandable I kind of know what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► and you know the it in finer detail but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► anyway that seems like the most obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► alternatives you might want to give that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► objection to drop boxes is it like ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► why is it installing weird crap in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► system is it performance like but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► would say that you know that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► help you with the social aspects of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► sort of network effect of like hey we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► all using dropbox and you're over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► and google drive but google drive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► pretty well supported on all mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► platforms has a really nice web UI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► and does the job I mean and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► there is one little saving grace with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► with dropbox like with with having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► software running is that they do have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► pretty robust web interface so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► couldn't you can if you if you're forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► to work with dropbox people and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► don't want to wonder about yourself you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► can actually get a lot of it done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5998">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► that web interface not all of it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► can you can do a lot there i think also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► with with with both Google Drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► Dropbox which as compared to iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► Drive which is apparently not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► yeah i was gonna mention and yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► the glorious thing about this is that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► matter what we think about dropbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► google drive this maybe not true but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► think we also have the feeling that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► quit dropbox it's out of the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► until I relaunch it right but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► quit is a third-party application you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► can put it on your mac and then like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► if you were to quit you feel like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► right well dropbox is not in the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► whatever evil it was doing before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► whatever annoyance I was having and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► the most part both of them respect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► thing of like launch one dialogue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► yes no they don't automatically turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► that one back on and so you can turn off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► dropbox and have some confidence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► it's not messing you anymore as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► to iCloud Drive which is always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► suspicion that you know some part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► system is doing stuff behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► and you can't just quit if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► out of the picture like but you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► brought this up forever like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► a expanding xcode with its thousands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► thousands of files and you don't want my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► BBFS NT grinding up on your record from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► dropbox observing every single facet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► event you can quit dropbox and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► you'll like that won't happen anymore if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► I could drive was doing the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► which hopefully it isn't you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► that option except for maybe uncheck the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► checkbox and it's saying you sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► want to remove all these you know having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► disappear or some other weird thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► you could drop box and you can quit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► being nothing happens to your Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► folder like it stays however it was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► you quit which is I think reassuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► yeah I mean I cloud drive is a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► people also recommended that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► seems like while most people have issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► with other iCloud things the especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► things like the Sierra you know document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► and stop saying stuff it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► iCloud drive is pretty good for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► people that most of the reports that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► we're very positive and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► said that they stopped using dropbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► just use iCloud Drive now so I i might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► consider that iCloud Drive still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► bothers me though in the way that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► not just a folder like it looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► folder and find her but isn't it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► knot isn't kind of weirdly all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► place it's like library mobile document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► so i would just caution again are fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► but just don't use it with pages or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► of our complications because apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► makes it so you can opener saving your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► yes that's been kind of like what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► is great about dropbox is that it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► conceptually simple it's like this II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► there's a special folder on your hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► drive you can see where it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► regular folder full of regular files but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► there's this thing in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► that runs that keeps it in sync with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► that same folder on your other computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► like that is great and and I I compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► the past one of them they like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► that is that it kind of has the failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► mode of a train when the failure mode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► an airplane was like like if an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► fails it crashes and you die if a train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► fails it's just not moving everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► still there you just kind of stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6178">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► moving and like that's kind of how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► feel with drop like the way dropbox like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► Dropbox service has any kind of issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► which it does it is not perfect i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► seen issues many times as somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► a blog engine based on dropbox you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► if dropbox fails all my files are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► still sitting there on my drive if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► dropbox has some kind of catastrophic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► error and like wipes out all my files it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► like i'm gonna choose sync problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► delete all my files those files in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► directory has got a time machine or my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► backups and I can just get the file off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► the backups so like it the the ways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► which you can fail our are pretty like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► low-key safe things that i can easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► recover from as a responsible computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► user who has backups whereas with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► of solutions there like a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► smart a little too abstracted I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► have that kind of luxury some of them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► work that way but many of them don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► and so that's why that's why i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► thinking like BitTorrent sync again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► knowing very little about it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► seems like that was probably going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► more like what I wanted but in reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► I'm probably just gonna stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► dropbox for a while but kinda taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► few steps out the door like keeping one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► foot out the door hit in a way looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► because however prefer do most things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► with like service and I commit myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► so you know I i'm going to at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► start moving things off the dropbox like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► i'm gonna move one password sync out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► that i'm going to stop adding anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► new to dropbox that would never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► require its integration start you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► sending around links to people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► download files instead of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► necessarily you know don't invest into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► into photos there things like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► just kind of like kinda putting dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► at a bit of a distance and starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► move out of it slowly because i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► think they're in there showing enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► bad judgment over time here that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► the time will come that I will want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► move off of it and i kinda wanna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► ready for that and that's easier said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► than done and I definitely take issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► with some of the shady things that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► been going on but I do think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► especially if you take the hacker news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► comments as actually coming from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► engineer and an engineer that is to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► degree obviously unofficially speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► it doesn't seem like any of this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► really malicious it was just either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► ill-advised or or perhaps you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► weren't as smart as we hope they were or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► whatever the case may be but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► know I feel like Dropbox is fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► essential to me getting my my life done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► i was going to say work because my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► so it would take quite a lot for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► want to walk away from it and i am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► at that point yet and I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► further away from that point and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► and that's not a bad thing that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► not a good thing is just the thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► it's certainly worth keeping an eye on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► and certainly you know we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► earlier about you know what is everyones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► everyone's perception of dropbox after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6358">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► this came at came to light and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► like Dropbox which used to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► like panic level can do no wrong in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► mind anyway can do no wrong generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► speaking is really good code that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► to always work etc it it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► quite so cut-and-dry to me anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► that's too bad but you know even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► alright thanks a lot two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► sponsor this week betterment kingdom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► indochino we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► mean to begin as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► research Marco in kc wouldn't let down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► dot and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment are see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► what are you doing the post-show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► want to talk about your camera's yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► got more marker waffling there should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► a new we should put the capital W on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► waffling yeah the category things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► Margo decides on a direction for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► life like an example would be I like BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► cars and then that the this determined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► after that is I like electric cars right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► then we assume there will be some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6478">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► in the future perhaps distant future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► Marco starts walking electric cars so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► this one is that that's how we define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► this this category of thing I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► Marco often doesn't have a good ring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► it we got it we got a workshop that name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► gonna come anyway the current round of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► Marco waffling which by the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► sounds like it's a bad name but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► joking really what it is is Marco being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► willing to revisit decisions he's made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► in the past when the conditions change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► they're going which is an admirable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► thing but it's much more fun to make fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► of him about it and use the word waffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► so anyway the current one is his cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► you know for years I used SL ours they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► gradually fell out of out of favor as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► just didn't want to carry them anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► and then I i got this little tiny sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► rx1 because it could basically see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► the dark the center was so good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► had an amazing little prime lens on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► the limitations of that camera with both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► you know things like autofocus speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► this is the old argument is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► a new ones better but there's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► one auto focus speed sucked the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► life sucked and I want a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► versatility in the land selection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► just you know just a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► performance and it wasn't small enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► that i was actually carrying in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► places because it was still a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► that couldn't fit in my pocket so about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► a year ago I i switch to the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► sony a7r too because it's so it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► is my first mirrorless like but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► still interchangeable lens camera it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► an amazing camera in many many ways the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► a7r to is if in many ways the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► camera in the world right now however it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► is not perfect and it's not perverted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► some fairly large ways and over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► I have thought I can get by this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► can get used to this and i'll get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► faster so the main reasons the sony a7r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► our number one and this is a huge one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► which I'll describe why later battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► life and ever since the beginning I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► I made fun of the fact that the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► is the battery life is so bad that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► ships with two batteries in the box is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► electronic device that includes two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► its own battery because everyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► uses it will need more than one I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► mine came with two batteries like 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► bucks for a little turkey battery I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► and I've lost two of them so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► you know you're lucky to get through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► day using it and and you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► only do you can only get through a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► day if you are very very careful and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► kind of baby the battery the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► problem with it is that it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► pretty slow turn it on you know it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► a few seconds to kind of boot up and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► it self-oriented shot to shot time if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► you want to review the pictures that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► you're taking with it it is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► slow takes a few seconds after it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► shot before you can really review them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► if you if you want to review a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► and zoom in to check to make sure like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► you that you that you focused correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► or the right thing wasn't focusing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► want to like zoom in and check that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► takes a long time like a few seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► delay riding the pictures to the card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► takes a long time which is partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► because they're so large but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► probably because you think the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► processor just slow just to provide some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► context here by the way over you i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► eventually but my sony which I'm sure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► well not sure actually is it is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► slower and all those things you describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► yours because mine is actually newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► yours is yours is almost a year newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► and also shoots much smaller photos so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► it's you I bet yours is probably faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► well i was going to say I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► believe that this is slower than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► thing you're actually comparing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► which we'll get to in a moment but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► the best camera of everyone so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► could the world when you go from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► world of like three digit price cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► to the world four-digit price cameras i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► was amazed at how fast this thing turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► on how fast it boots up how fast does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► so everything's relative but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► contain the results of this camera it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► has the most amazing sensor I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► seen I think it might even be one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► best testing for intentions in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► bye-bye like testing metrics like pho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► market everything it is an incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► awesome sensor I can basically see in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► the dark with very little noise dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► it has an incredibly advanced auto focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► system the main problem is just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► it's so slow and that the battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► is so bad and the battery life manifest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► itself in interesting ways that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► thought I hadn't necessarily foreseen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► foresaw when when i when i bought it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► first and even when i bought a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► battery life was gonna be great but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► there are certain ways this is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► so for instance it has Wi-Fi but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► never used it because energy in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► for it to be convenient to use you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► to leave the Wi-Fi enabled in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► and then you'll eventually launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► everything and to get reasonable better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► if I this camera you have to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► like keep it in airplane mode so i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► never use the flat because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► like I have I have a call these settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6778">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► like maximize the power consumption also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► like as you're shooting throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► day because mirrorless if the camera is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► one of the two screens is always on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► either the ones in the electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► viewfinder or the one in the back screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► is always on if the camera is ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► unlike SLR is really at slrs if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► the back screen on this one thing but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► normal with us are you shooting through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► the optical viewfinder there's no screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► on in that process there might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► depending on the moats and whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► certain things you're sleeping but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► basically there's no screens around so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► DSLR that is just ready to shoot but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► actually shooting a picture uses very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► little power and it's one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► why dslrs get so much better battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► life then these large full frame but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► still mirrorless cameras that have lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► of processing demands but very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► batteries so for the sony in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► save battery life i often need to flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► it off when im using it just it just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► know if I'm not gonna be shooting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► the next couple of minutes I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► flip it off because if you don't look as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► you like move around and the camera like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► you know bounces off your chest off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► sides are walking around like it'll will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► against a soldier on the eps screen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► then it will think you're not against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► this will turn the back screen so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► basically there's always a screen being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► capturing the data and showing it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► screen so the power draw these things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► incredibly high in just like walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► around mixed shooting use and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► basically have to keep them switched off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► when you're not shooting to save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► battery so that means that every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► you want to take a shot if it was off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► you got to turn it on you get away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► the boot up again so that's like a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► seconds lost their and and because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► that i have often missed shots because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► he's getting faster at this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► that happens i guess i'm learning this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► but that's the most dangerous game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► covers exactly exactly so basically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► is causing me to miss a lot of shots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► it's causing me to not use certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► features very well and if these aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► the only examples but basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► ensure it i'm not able to use the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► its full potential because i need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► baby the battery so much it is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► more inconvenient than i expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► have a battery life that this bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► compared to slrs which i use for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► beforehand you know SLR like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► leave it on all day and it won't be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► problem at all like it'll be in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► certain low-power mode and if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► if you lift it up and have press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► shutter button its it is on like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► like it's so fast for SLR to to exit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► on but idle state bandits right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► like it's so fast so and you can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► when it's when it's in that on I'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► to use so little power you can literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► leave it there for like all day or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► days and yet the battery won't die it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► incredible like how big is our batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► hard how long they last relative to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► America's camera like those so maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► month after i got the so-named I I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► picked up our old 5d Mark still uses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► 5d mark two most of the time so about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► month after the sony i was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► getting used to and I picked up the 5d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► mark two I thought this is the largest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► heaviest dinosaur I've ever felt this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► crazy i'm so glad i moved to Maryland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► etc now a year and a couple of months in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► limitations and annoyingness of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► particular mirrorless camera and of into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► some degree of merrells cameras in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► all this past weekend i picked up tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► camera to take a few shots she had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► favorite lens mounted on the the 1 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► millimeter cannon f2 we want a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► shot outside i picked up this camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► took a few shots with the 135 of my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► I just flew on it it was like night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► day and I thought having been out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► practice with with that camera control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► scheme for a year and it being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► eight-year-old camera compared to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► like awesome high-end new sony I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► this would be slower i wouldn't be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► to get things in focus because the focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► system is so primitive in the old 5d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► mark two compared to what we have today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► and I i thought the picture looked as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► good as there's so much lower resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► sensor is so old and crappy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► reality is not only did I fly on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► controls but I nailed tons of shots very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► quickly because it like just shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► with an SLR especially a good SLR like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► the 5d series is so much faster than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► full-frame mirrorless and I know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► are smaller non full-frame mirrorless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► cameras there's lots that are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► aps-c sensor size range of the micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► four-thirds size range and because these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► these process smaller sensors with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► fewer pixels they often are a lot faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► and it is also possible i know to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► full frame camera that is very very fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► because at XOXO i was able to to briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► use a friends like a is that the q1 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► fix 28 millimeter lens whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► it was one of the one of the like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► like five-thousand-dollar mirrorless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► things and it was amazing how incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► fast and responsibility that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► noticed immediately about that camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► and honest I don't love the idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► fixed 20 millimeter lens being the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► typically with the iphone is that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► anyway so because it's like a queue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► not probably for me but Wow was it nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► to you fast camera again so i use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► XOXO about a month ago over this weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► i use tips XLR tips SLR excellent after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► the audio will too much i basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► realize that oh my god i really love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► fast pro handling camera like as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► talking a couple of weeks ago about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► no hardware and non-pro hardware want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► one of those described about pro stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► and in the comfort of cameras like pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► stuff is not only like durable and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► made to tolerate extreme conditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► better and usually has better service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:49 ◼ ► but also pro stuff just handles faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7129">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► and it has more control and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► always necessarily have to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► smallest it doesn't always necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:57 ◼ ► have to be technically the best buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7137">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► certain measures but it has to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► reliable and fast and hat and have easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► simple controls you can like use without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► looking at stuff like that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► progear is and i just realized that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► just love pro cameras and at the sony in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► in some ways isn't a pro camera in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► not always of course and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► technically it is shockingly good like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► in in the picture quality that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► out of it and the optical quality that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► you get from the amazing sony fe lenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► is also fantastic but i think i might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► switch back to slrs because here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► happened in the meantime cannon released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► the 5d Mark four and the 5d Mark so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► the main problems I have with canon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► before that one of the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► reasons of them what they wanted to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► to sewing to be in the in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► cannon was falling way behind on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► sensor technology their sensors were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► really not competitive with the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► of noise at high iso levels in low light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► and they were really not competitive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7197">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► and like things like the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► detail that you can recover in shadows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► basically what happened with the 5d mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► for they didn't become class-leading in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► those areas but they got very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► sony and and therefore nikon cameras are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► also used sony sensors they are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► ahead in high iso noise levels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► dynamic range and resolution in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► levels but the the new canon 5d mark for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► came very close to these levels and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► my opinion in most in most ways probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► autofocus system it hasn't same battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► life it has pro controls pro durability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► it is giant heavy but i want one so tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► it arrived about a half hour before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► show started I i haven't had a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► ask me again next week but basically tip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► is getting one and i'm going to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► with it and if i end up liking it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► might get one as well and then sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7257">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► only here but we will see i did not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► neither did I until it was really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► you know after that it really required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► me to have the sony for long enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► get to know its flaws and then to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► have the canon again in my hands and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► see just how incredibly awesome a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► program SLR is when you haven't used one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► for a while and in the ways that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:24 ◼ ► sony annoys me and it is giant I mean no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7284">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► quit is still huge and it is heavy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► the lenses are bigger and heavier but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► is really compelling dancer expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► especially in the chat asking basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► asking what about nikon SLR the and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► rented a d750 about a year-and-a-half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► ago before decided to get this sony I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:47 ◼ ► was kind of figure like we know which of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7307">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► the various sony sensor cameras do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► and of course the d750 and d810 were on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► that list to try and the main reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► they chose against the nikon 1 was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7317">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► the cannon controls just gonna get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► with me a little bit better and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► the same thing she also prefers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► cannon control you know standard layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► maybe it's just what we used to who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► secondarily that nikon had some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► holes in the lens lineup that we liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► and and cannon is doing really well with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► their legs i have recently like the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► for a while they their lenses were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► know that they've always been great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► great pretty good right but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► getting a little bit long in the tooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► and in certain ones and the last couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:36 ◼ ► years they have released a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7356">TS</a>]
02:02:38 ◼ ► incredible new lenses one of which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7358">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► ordered with this 52 mph or try the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► new 35-millimeter f2 is and I mean if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► ever want to go with the zoom again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► new 24 72.8 is shockingly good if i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7369">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► to go faster on 35 eventually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:57 ◼ ► shockingly good there there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7377">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► bunch of new pc modern cameras that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► amazing the the cannon 40-millimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► pancake is incredibly small and light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:07 ◼ ► and short and incredibly good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7387">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► costume was nothing I mean there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► here so nikon definitely has the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► best sensors that are available in SL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:18 ◼ ► ours because there are so many sensors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7398">TS</a>]
02:03:19 ◼ ► but I think cannon wins me over for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7399">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► lenses and control layout and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► the cannon sensor is now closed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► qualities that the matter to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► that's kind of what's keeping me here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► so tell me again why you're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► considering micro four thirds and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► not saying that it's the best option but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► it seems to me as a novice photographer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► that only kind of understands it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► smaller than a fallen SLR my battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► life I have the problem of oh crap i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► haven't charged this thing and forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7437">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► and now I really need it and it's nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7438">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► dead because I've used my camera time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► and the battery lasts forever and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► don't think about it right you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► like your cell phone back when you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7446">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► go a week between charging it he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► be that day they'd be like crap i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► completely forgot to do this last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► anyways battery life it lasts a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► time it starts up pretty darn quickly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► does have the problem of one of the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► screens always being on if not both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► which is a little frustrating but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:26 ◼ ► the Wi-Fi is super easy to turn on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7466">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► off the app that olympus has for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► phone does a perfectly sufficient job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► tracking your whereabouts if you tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► to it doesn't do it automatically but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:40 ◼ ► you go into the app you tell it hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7480">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► start tracking where I am and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► you're done you you get on the Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► which again is very easy and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► the apps and that geo data to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► camera and it'll geotag all your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► i mean in many ways it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► would be a good fit so what wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► gives you pause just haven't tried it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7498">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► you and you're familiar with the cannon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► well and so first of all the the 5d mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► oh that's super nice some of these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► saying like you can leave it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► like two modes one of them is like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► of a more continuous one of them is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► of like a lighter or lower power one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► that's kind of less periodically updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► the gps and that is apparently pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► nice in the battery and so not only can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:21 ◼ ► geotag yourself built in but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7521">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► automatically sets clock which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► awesome because one of the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► long-standing annoyances anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:28 ◼ ► tries to use a separate camera that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7528">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► not their phone and then mix those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► photos into their libraries is if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► if your camera's clock is off by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:35 ◼ ► little bit or buy a few hours if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7535">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► travel that sucks and messes up all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► stuff right so anyway so built-in GPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► and Wi-Fi and in a battery that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► probably handle it because it's a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► camera with a large battery so that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► there is perfectly valid reasons to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:54 ◼ ► with smaller cameras there they're great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7554">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► reasons why most people small cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7557">TS</a>]
02:05:59 ◼ ► most people also should entrust their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7559">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► most people shouldn't be shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► waiting for mac pros and most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► should not have the 15-inch macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:08 ◼ ► know people she had a smaller macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7568">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► I however am a picky apple i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► learned about myself as everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► did long before i did but basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► because i am a picky Apple I know myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► now well enough to know that if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► anything that is not the biggest best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► most pro option for something I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:35 ◼ ► limitations but that's not always true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7595">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► p85 db9 TD you have a 90-day right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► there are cases where and by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:45 ◼ ► still stand by that decision i love my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7605">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► car is plenty fast enough and i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► amount of range it has and i love i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► didn't spend 20 grand more for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► that's about all those things are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► so this isn't true and everything that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7616">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► that i buy or use but in certain areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7618">TS</a>]
02:07:01 ◼ ► that I care strongly about things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7621">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► the computer i use the camera i use i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:06 ◼ ► have learned basically that like like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7626">TS</a>]
02:07:10 ◼ ► you know in four cameras there is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7630">TS</a>]
02:07:15 ◼ ► photography needs because it's always my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7635">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► pocket so there's the iphone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:19 ◼ ► amazing for a lot of things its camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7639">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► is very good considering its a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► camera that being said it is not as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► my thinking is if i'm going to carry a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► regular camera at all and this is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► of the reason let me to the sown in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:34 ◼ ► first place being being like the largest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7654">TS</a>]
02:07:37 ◼ ► mirrorless camera that's about her if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7657">TS</a>]
02:07:41 ◼ ► I'm going to carry a camera at all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7661">TS</a>]
02:07:43 ◼ ► don't worry about carrying a camera that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7663">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► can fit in my pocket anymore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► cameras that can fit in my pocket are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► usually not only better than the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:49 ◼ ► and the iphone solve that role for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7669">TS</a>]
02:07:52 ◼ ► what I want is either the iphone or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7672">TS</a>]
02:07:57 ◼ ► camera that will carry separately in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7677">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► which case i wanted to be the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7678">TS</a>]
02:07:59 ◼ ► camera icon that it can possibly be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7679">TS</a>]
02:08:01 ◼ ► long time ago when we first butter 5d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7681">TS</a>]
02:08:07 ◼ ► full-frame camera and that ruin me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7687">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► forever and now if I'm going to carry a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► camera that is not my iphone i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► be full frame and while there while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► smaller sensors have made tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► progress in recent years and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► lots of amazing cameras that have micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:27 ◼ ► four thirds or aps-c sized sensors full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7707">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► frame is still a step above in in areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:33 ◼ ► i care about in noise in quality in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7713">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► optics full frame cameras havin a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► advantage because that look much larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► sensor size that the smaller cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► just won't match and there are downsides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:47 ◼ ► obviously cost is a big one size is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7727">TS</a>]
02:08:49 ◼ ► big one and as mentioned earlier speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7729">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► is a big one because now you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7731">TS</a>]
02:08:53 ◼ ► these giant sensors that take more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7733">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► battery life to power and then they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► to have more electrons behind them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7737">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► like you know convertible the pixel data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7738">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► and they have the image processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► dealing with way more image data because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► it's way more megapixels and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► that so there are downsides to full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:06 ◼ ► frame but generally if i'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7746">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► shooting with anything that was not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► iphone i want to be the opposite extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► want to be the best it can possibly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:14 ◼ ► and for me that's a full-frame SLR yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7754">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► that makes sense i mean to kind of come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► to your defense for a moment and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:22 ◼ ► the micro four-thirds that I have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7762">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► don't have any pancake lenses for it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► have a thing for 25 millimeter if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► remember right that is that I use most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► often but we just picked up as we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:36 ◼ ► millimeters zoom which I know zooms is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7776">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► not for everyone as you were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:39 ◼ ► about earlier but I i happen to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7779">TS</a>]
02:09:42 ◼ ► having the option and I tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7782">TS</a>]
02:09:44 ◼ ► with that zoom lens on this camera is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7784">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► I mean it's already not small with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:49 ◼ ► prime but it is really not small with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7789">TS</a>]
02:09:52 ◼ ► the zoom and so i'm not sure that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7792">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► really saving that much over a full-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► DSLR I mean it's certainly smaller but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:00 ◼ ► it it's not night and day by any stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7800">TS</a>]
02:10:03 ◼ ► of the imagination and the sony has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7803">TS</a>]
02:10:05 ◼ ► same in the same issue where there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7805">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► few hey there's a small number of small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► prime lenses for the for the sony fe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:12 ◼ ► mount that are great and the 1i keep on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7812">TS</a>]
02:10:14 ◼ ► the camera the vast majority of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7814">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► is a 35-millimeter f 2.8 sony prime it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► great if you want like more light intake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► or if you want to zoom that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:25 ◼ ► it does get very big and heavy very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7825">TS</a>]
02:10:27 ◼ ► quickly because that's just what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7827">TS</a>]
02:10:28 ◼ ► takes like if you have if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7828">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► full-frame sensor ready and you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:32 ◼ ► lot of a lot of light to hit that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7832">TS</a>]
02:10:34 ◼ ► that doesn't suck and if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7834">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► have a zoom lens to have like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:37 ◼ ► versatility of that you're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7837">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► this giant heavy piece of glass on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:41 ◼ ► so the size benefit for for mirrorless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7841">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► cameras i think mostly only holds if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► either you're willing to give up a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► of quality and have a really crappy zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7849">TS</a>]
02:10:51 ◼ ► in which case you can make them smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7851">TS</a>]
02:10:52 ◼ ► or if you're using primes and not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7852">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► very fast primes so that that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7855">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► represent a lot of my you certainly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:00 ◼ ► mean the the 35 prime is what i have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7860">TS</a>]
02:11:02 ◼ ► there is that most of the time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7862">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► that combo is quite small and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:06 ◼ ► if i'm going to switch back to slrs I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7866">TS</a>]
02:11:09 ◼ ► still might keep the sony and just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7869">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► 35-millimeter prime and have that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► like my my small setup if i ever need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:14 ◼ ► that but it was like really once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7874">TS</a>]
02:11:18 ◼ ► have large glass on their the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7878">TS</a>]
02:11:20 ◼ ► the body matters less and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7880">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► becomes sometimes harder to use like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► you have a big big imbalance between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► like a giant he lands on this tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► little hairless body that it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► I don't even know what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:37 ◼ ► about at this point I mean you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7897">TS</a>]
02:11:41 ◼ ► are probably one nice set of in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7901">TS</a>]
02:11:44 ◼ ► monitors away from just going completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7904">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► off the deep end and a good thing isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:49 ◼ ► happy I've already like my my audio deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7909">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► end I already did that years ago I i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► I'm set there I even my Christian phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► aren't even as crazy as as they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► or they were like the one the headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:04 ◼ ► heaviest most expensive pair that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7924">TS</a>]
02:12:06 ◼ ► I ever owned or tried and I hand and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7926">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► headphones i have they have since been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► succeeded by by multiple new models that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► replace them and I i have not even had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► the desire trying to like to have fun so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► much I haven't even tried them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:19 ◼ ► replacements so like this is just how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7939">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► am with things like I you know i'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► crazy or something for a while but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:24 ◼ ► kind of get settled for a long time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7944">TS</a>]
02:12:26 ◼ ► once I find something really nice that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7946">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► like John are you still liking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:34 ◼ ► upgraded model that has been announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7954">TS</a>]
02:12:37 ◼ ► yeah that's right i made it i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:39 ◼ ► it sucks because they have what I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7959">TS</a>]
02:12:41 ◼ ► found out that it's actually bigger I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7961">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► like all right well how much bigger it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► two millimeters bigger is a bigger in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► way that will notice so I that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:48 ◼ ► only wild card there but if it if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7968">TS</a>]
02:12:50 ◼ ► not that much bigger and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7970">TS</a>]
02:12:52 ◼ ► reviews say that it's basically my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7972">TS</a>]
02:12:54 ◼ ► camera but better in these such ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7974">TS</a>]
02:12:56 ◼ ► i'll probably sell us want to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7976">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► yeah because baby got bigger because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7978">TS</a>]
02:13:01 ◼ ► added in in body image stabilization and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:03 ◼ ► that so it's it was a similar size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7983">TS</a>]
02:13:06 ◼ ► increase as when they went as when the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7986">TS</a>]
02:13:08 ◼ ► 7-series went from the regular a77 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7988">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► line so i expect the size difference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► be substantial and I expect you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► however you might want to anyway because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:18 ◼ ► of the stabilization being pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/7998">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► that being said center stabilization is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:22 ◼ ► not as good as having the lenses but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8002">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► but when you have a lens that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► have it it's nice to have I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:29 ◼ ► of stuff well first of all I think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8009">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► my lenses have it at this point are put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:33 ◼ ► let's say I just got that I know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8013">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► portrait one does does this one maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► doesn't make me a pancake one doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:45 ◼ ► touchscreen and so that could be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8025">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► and they like it's kind of weird that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:50 ◼ ► this camera doesn't have one or it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8030">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► be bad and the touchscreen your I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► be even worse than using the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:54 ◼ ► happening so I'm gonna have to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8034">TS</a>]
02:13:56 ◼ ► iphone i think that Susan person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8036">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► and the only reason i'm considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► creating up is like I can reuse my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:04 ◼ ► lenses i'm gonna i'm gonna buy that lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8044">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► that my wife complications all have will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:08 ◼ ► have three lenses and then just swapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8048">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► out the body something the body is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:11 ◼ ► least expensive part of my camera setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8051">TS</a>]
02:14:13 ◼ ► shockingly for someone who this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8053">TS</a>]
02:14:17 ◼ ► first camera that even has lenses now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8057">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► know I'm in the lens ecosystem and so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:21 ◼ ► can swap out the bodies and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8061">TS</a>]
02:14:23 ◼ ► someone will be willing to buy 6300 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8063">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► that if the time comes but yeah i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:28 ◼ ► I mean in all fairness like having more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8068">TS</a>]
02:14:31 ◼ ► money being spent on the glass but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8071">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► body is generally the right thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:34 ◼ ► like the if you if you have to allocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:36 ◼ ► funds it somewhere between those two use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8076">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► the lens of the better use of the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:41 ◼ ► because not only can they last between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8081">TS</a>]
02:14:43 ◼ ► multiple bodies but they like I'd rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8083">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► have a great lens on a crappy camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► yeah I don't know yeah like a if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► look at the performance differences is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:55 ◼ ► not i don't expect that any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8095">TS</a>]
02:14:58 ◼ ► phenomenally better i think the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8098">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► actually is has gone up a surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► amount so it's not a slam dunk that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:05 ◼ ► going to end up thinking that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8105">TS</a>]
02:15:06 ◼ ► better enough to justify that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8106">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► like 500 bucks or something so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:10 ◼ ► know i might still went out and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8110">TS</a>]
02:15:12 ◼ ► keep this camera goals a i do want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8112">TS</a>]
02:15:14 ◼ ► quickly talk about video and now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:16 ◼ ► a couple in chat talking my video the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8116">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► sony is way better video no question and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► and this kind of like ever since the 5d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:24 ◼ ► mark two that that kind of introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8124">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► high-end video capabilities to what were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► you previously photo only SLR categories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► where's have basically been focusing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► lot on video features because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► what the market is demanding and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► you basically have video abilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► dominating the development of cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:46 ◼ ► the features are going to them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8146">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► reviews whatever you say about them how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► they sell things at that if I would if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► mainly shot video on my camera I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8151">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► stick with the sony line because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:55 ◼ ► those have been those improve themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8155">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► to be the best regular cameras that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8156">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► shoot video for video purpose however I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► i learned in the program the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:06 ◼ ► owning this camera that i hardly ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8166">TS</a>]
02:16:08 ◼ ► shoot video on my camera because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8168">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► yeah i know this is not this is not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:13 ◼ ► for pros if you're like actually like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8173">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► professional video shoot fine use a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► camera is a good everything that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:20 ◼ ► what we're doing here what I'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8180">TS</a>]
02:16:22 ◼ ► shooting video of my kids running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8182">TS</a>]
02:16:24 ◼ ► and for that purpose the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8184">TS</a>]
02:16:26 ◼ ► better not only because it's always in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8186">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► my pocket but also the iphone is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► better at auto exposure autofocus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► built-in microphone is way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► cutting out noise and crap so the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► i get out of my iphone is substantially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► nicer in general to watch even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► is less technically good as the video i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► get out of my fancy cameras so therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:49 ◼ ► my camera use is only for photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8209">TS</a>]
02:16:54 ◼ ► videos are shot on the phone i'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8214">TS</a>]
02:16:56 ◼ ► same way I know it's not exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8216">TS</a>]
02:16:58 ◼ ► same thing because my camera shoots 1080 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8218">TS</a>]
02:17:01 ◼ ► and and the iphone will shoot 4k but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8221">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► especially with the seven and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:07 ◼ ► optical image stabilization that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8227">TS</a>]
02:17:09 ◼ ► there i will was stupefied and how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8229">TS</a>]
02:17:13 ◼ ► the OIS is we went pumpkin picking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8233">TS</a>]
02:17:16 ◼ ► past weekend and the particular place we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8236">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► do that you get on a trailer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► total hind like a John Deere tractor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:23 ◼ ► they tote you know that you ride out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8243">TS</a>]
02:17:27 ◼ ► eventually get a ride back and as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8247">TS</a>]
02:17:29 ◼ ► can imagine in a dirt field you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8249">TS</a>]
02:17:31 ◼ ► it's bumpy is crap and i took a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8251">TS</a>]
02:17:34 ◼ ► of short videos on on this trailer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8254">TS</a>]
02:17:38 ◼ ► the back of this tractor in a field in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8258">TS</a>]
02:17:41 ◼ ► Virginia and it certainly looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8261">TS</a>]
02:17:44 ◼ ► things are bumpy but i can assure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8264">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► you that it looks way way less bumpy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:51 ◼ ► this video then the reality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8271">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► situation was as I'm like going all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► this trailer behind this this tractor i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8275">TS</a>]
02:17:58 ◼ ► mean i-i I could not believe my eyes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTlu0sI/8278">TS</a>]