244: This is Not Propaganda
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(upbeat music)
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- Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 244.
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It's made possible this week by our sponsors,
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Backblaze, FreshBooks, and TextExpander.
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I'm your host, Steven Hackett,
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and I am joined by Mr. Federico Vittucci.
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- Hello, Steven Hackett, how are you?
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- I'm doing well, how are you on this fine Wednesday?
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I am doing better than in the previous weeks.
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I'm doing very, very well.
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Yes, we're going to talk about that.
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There's a lot to cover this week.
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And of course, we are joined by everyone's favorite bearded
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British man, Myke Hurley.
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You put a lot of qualifiers in that one.
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I mean, I couldn't say favorite man.
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Can't I just be everybody's favorite?
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Why can't I just be everybody's favorite?
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Because it's Federico's Week.
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I'll be everyone's favorite next week.
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Let's just dive right in.
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have a lot of follow up. And we're going to start with hashtag beat Buffett, we're talking
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about Warren Buffett's weird iPhone game that's now just in the US and how we felt like the
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the high score was probably hard coded. This campaign was a failure. It was we have a tweet
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that the highest we've seen was what 12,700 and Warren's I'm looking at the screenshot
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Warren Buffett's high score, 15,350.
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I do wonder if maybe you put in Warren Buffett as your username, maybe it tricks the game
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into giving you a higher score.
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I'm surprised that nobody else has tried that before.
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Oh, that's interesting.
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Maybe you get access to some kind of special mode.
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The Warren mode.
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The Warren mode.
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The Buffett mode.
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Can you change your name?
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It is clearly very impossible to take that score.
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I'll delete the app.
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Oh no. I was done. I was done with it. I mean, how many more times am I gonna play it?
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I boosted it off into the moon. It's gone. I threw it out of the window like one of these newspapers.
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Like you threw out your phone.
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I keep dropping my phone all the time. Really?
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Yeah, I've got so many. It's covered in scratches now, the screen. I don't know what's wrong with me.
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But you have a case, right? You have a case. Yeah, yeah. If I didn't have a case, this thing would have been obliterated before now.
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It's taken some real bad like I dropped it a couple of days ago and it hit a shelf
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And like yeah on the way down and just like
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Catapulted its way across the room. So I'm pleased I have a case
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I would have 100% blown through my two Apple Care repairs at this point
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Are you sure using the silicon iPhone case like the Apple case? Yeah. Yeah
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Do you feel like it's let not grippy enough or you're just suddenly clumsy or like I just I keep dropping it
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I don't know what it is. It's not like it's slipping. I just keep dropping it.
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It's almost as if the phone is too big and the Max was a mistake.
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It's almost as if my hands aren't big enough.
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Oh, that's the problem.
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That's the real problem.
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You should find techniques to grow your hands bigger.
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I'm going to look into that. Maybe I should get cases for my hands.
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Like a hand extender medication. Something like that must exist. You know, like a pill
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that you take and it grows your hand, you know? Or maybe some exercise to extend the
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length of your fingers. Is there such an exercise that can do that?
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I have no idea. Well, when I was younger, I think my mom convinced me, I don't know
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if this is true or not, that there were exercises that you could do to sort of force yourself
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to grow taller, like if you remain suspended, like hanging on with your arms, like a bar
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or something, you force yourself to grow taller.
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This is like some torture rack type stuff.
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Yes, it sounds like a torture rack.
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It's medieval.
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I think it's a medieval technique.
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I'm pretty sure that it's not true.
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I'm not sure it's a good idea.
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But I had a whole problem growing up, because until I was like 14 or 15 I was very short,
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I was very short and then in the span of the summer, like two months, I grew by like 12
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centimeters and that made me feel a lot better.
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It was super awkward when I went back to school in September and I was like a different person.
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But yeah, anyway, sorry.
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Okay, I hope that's enough of that.
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we have some news from CNET that it seems that they may have fixed the Galaxy Fold.
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Samsung may have done it.
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Let me talk about the Galaxy Fold. Let me talk about it.
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Oh my god. Still.
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CNET are reporting on some other reports from some other websites that I've not yet seen.
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Wait, this is not even their own report? The reporting from...
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Reporting on other... Okay.
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Yeah, they, CNET are reporting based on reports from Yonhap News.
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I don't really know what that is, but I'm going on whatever I got.
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So apparently Samsung are going to be tucking the protective layer, the kind of screen protector,
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under the bezel now so it doesn't come off and people won't want to pick it up.
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I don't know how this was ever a thing in the first place.
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And they've also reduced the size of some of the hinge parts apparently, so it will
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covered by a protective frame better. We'll see. Samsung definitely haven't said this,
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but someone is. So, keeping that dream alive, boys.
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Yeah, I sure hope that Yonhap News is correct. Nobody hopes it more than me and Samsung's
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CEO. And the folks at Yonhap also.
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No, they're fine. Yonhap got what they need, right? Like, they've got what they need. It
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looks like a Korean website.
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Okay. Alright. Well, I'm happy that you're holding on to this glimmer of hope that is the
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Galaxy Fold mic. I want this to be true for you, mostly, at this point.
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Speaking of things that folded too soon, let's talk about works with Nest.
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Oh, that was a transition.
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Oh my god. This was the partnership of Nest and some other devices that let them interact,
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including the Amazon Echo voice assistant. It worked through this program and some other things.
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Google has now extended that through August 31st. They're using the time to work with partners to
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make a more permanent solution available, almost as if it's what they should have done in the first
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place. What a concept. It's kind of funny, really. You work with these large companies,
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and yet you decide just not to bother mentioning to them.
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If they had announced this in the first place, saying, "Hey, you have until the end of August,
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and then we're gonna move over.
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I don't think people would have been upset,
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but you pull the rug out from under everybody,
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then you have to go back.
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They really did it poorly.
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- But yet some stuff's never,
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like IFTTT is not mentioned, right?
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That's probably gone forever.
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They called out Amazon as like Google,
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in Google's blog posts,
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they specifically called out Amazon, right?
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That they're gonna work with them.
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And they also said that they're gonna work with partners
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and they're gonna add assistant features
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that will help replace the stuff that's going to be lost.
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And they also spoke about, which I do appreciate,
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they're like, you know, when we're working with people and adding these things in,
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we're actually going to do periodic security reviews of them.
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That's going to be part of it.
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But like, see, this is what I mean.
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Stuff like that, you're like, yeah, Google, that's a really good point.
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Like you should be doing periodic security reviews of the companies
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that you allow your products into, right?
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Probably nobody else is doing stuff like that, right?
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Like you get the certification and then it's all job done.
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But that's the type of stuff people want to hear.
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They don't want to hear like, oh, all the stuff that you currently are bought into.
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We just decided to kill it.
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So please buy our products instead.
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Up next, I want to talk a little bit about our Macs that has come up on Twitter
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in the last week after Myke's promise to buy me an armac if they come out.
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Yeah, including if the Mac Pro is an armac, the highest spec.
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So just reminding people of that.
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That's the one I wish I wouldn't have said the laptop.
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Oh, now you wish you wouldn't have said that. That was so obvious.
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The laptop, like I could maybe get away with a bit, but like the highest end, the Mac Pro,
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I'm still feeling confident about it, maybe. You should feel confident about it.
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About the Mac Pro specifically, but like I'm still just a little,
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I remain, that's the part that I'm most concerned about.
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That's understandable, because it could be very expensive.
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So it came up on Twitter, what defines an ARM Mac, because Touch Bar Macs started with the T1 chip,
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and now they have the T2 chip and... Can I stop you here for a second? I am unhappy with our
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listeners who are trying to like find loopholes. Huh? Right? To be like "Oh, well the T2 chip's an
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ARM chip!" No! Shut up is what I say to you, right? You know what I'm saying. Don't try and find
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loopholes. This is literally the reason this isn't follow-up, so... No, no, I appreciate you putting
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it in here, but I have nothing but disdain for people that made these claims to you, Stephen.
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disdain for all of them. I feel there's a, the phenomenon here is that people find it
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entertaining when you're forced to spend money. Yeah, yeah, it's why all those YouTube videos
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are so popular, right? Like, I'm giving $50,000 to someone for sitting in a car for six hours,
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like it's just like a thing. So I think we need to define this a little bit. So yes,
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Macs have ARM chips in them now, but they're secondary doing security things in the Touch
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or whatever, I think the definition,
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I think this is a pretty clear definition,
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is that an ARM Mac means the OS or its apps
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are running on an ARM processor, right?
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It seems like a very simple definition to me
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that if the OS or the apps run on something
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other than an Intel chip, then it's an ARM Mac.
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Like it's not, it's clear.
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So then the question came up,
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I'm just reiterating what happened on Twitter,
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what happens if it's a dual CPU system?
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So what if, just hypothetically, I don't necessarily
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think this is the case for a lot of-- because it's
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super weird and probably expensive.
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But let's take the new Mac Pro.
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Let's say that it comes with an Intel Xeon in it,
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but it also comes with the Apple ARM Mac CPU in it.
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And you can run--
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it has both.
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Again, I think the answer is, does the OS or its apps,
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can they run on the ARM processor directly?
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And if so, I would say that that is an ARM Mac.
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I feel like in good faith I could not argue that point away.
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Yeah, I feel like we're all on the same page.
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I just wanted to clarify that,
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because people are trying to find loopholes,
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so I think that's our definition.
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'Cause then I could get you a Mac that does both, right?
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Lastly, in follow-up, Myke, this is just for me and you,
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we have a co-host on this show who really likes awards.
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I feel like he's very--
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It's not that I like them, I deserve them.
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Yeah, okay, okay.
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I feel like he's overcoming some trauma in his past
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where he was passed over.
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What is possible?
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You know, and this has spilled out into the Relay FM newsletter.
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There's a new show called Adapt.
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We talked about it last week where Federico and Ryan are challenging each other to do
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things on the iPad.
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It's a great show.
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And I interviewed the two of them in the Relay FM membership newsletter.
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And there's just a link in the show notes about one of Federico's answers.
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Myke, do you want to tell us what this other person wrote?
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So the question was, will there be prizes?
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I know Federico's really into trophies.
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And Federico says, "I like trophies because I deserve them.
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As other shows on Relay have proven time and time again,
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I hope that ADAPT will allow me to win more trophies in Connected,
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whose co-hosts have established an alliance against me
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to prevent me from winning additional trophies."
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- Now, - Yes.
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I feel like we are entering into a very deep and complicated lore here
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that I can't comprehend anymore as to how this has occurred.
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Well, I believe there is an alliance or a conspiracy against me.
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We all have an equal amount of trophies.
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We all have one each.
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Only one was shaped like a toilet though.
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Yeah, and I have that one.
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Over time, points were stolen from me over time.
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When? Come on!
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When? When were they?
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In previous predictions and in previous contests that we did, points were not assigned to me.
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And you know why the points weren't assigned to you, right? Because you got the answer
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wrong. Because you didn't deserve them.
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Well that's debatable and you two have teamed up.
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Two sides to every story. You two have teamed up and have colluded with
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Jason Snell. No collusion.
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Yes, there has been.
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Easy, easy, easy.
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I feel like we would need a report to assess the situation here.
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Are you going to be the person to assign the independent report coordinator?
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I would like to have going into WWDC a special investigator looking into the practices that
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assigned the points and grade the predictions. Okay. To assure that there will be no collusion.
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Sure. Okay. What can we call it? The Gruber Report? Something like that?
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We have some big news, gentlemen. Big news. This is actually pretty huge news. Big news. So,
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This fall, Relay FM will turn five years old,
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which is just, as a side note,
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completely mind-blowing to me.
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- And we are marking the occasion
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with a special live show in San Francisco.
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There is a ticket link in the show notes.
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This will be on Thursday, August 22nd in San Francisco.
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It is going to be a podcasting extravaganza,
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so we're going to have a bunch of Relay hosts there
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doing some fun stuff.
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It's not just like a regular connected or a regular upgrade.
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This is gonna be just a full blowout of relay
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good fun times.
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- Yeah, we're trying to get as many hosts
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as soon as we possibly can.
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We're trying to get as many people involved
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in the episode as possible.
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It's gonna be the most ambitious crossover event in history.
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Tickets are on sale.
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Obviously space is limited because it's a venue
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in San Francisco.
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I'm very, very, very excited about this.
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We obviously have one big live show still to come before this one, but I am very excited
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about our fifth anniversary live show.
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So we're going to be doing a bunch of stuff throughout the rest of this year, I think,
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to try and celebrate our fifth anniversary because it's a pretty big deal for us.
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We hope that you'll join us in San Francisco on August 22nd.
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I think this will be one that you wouldn't want to miss.
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So we're working on some stuff.
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We're gonna shoot Myke Hurley out of a cannon. It's gonna be great. I'm like
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Actually, you know what? I don't want I will be the one with a surprise at this show
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Maybe I'm working on something. I'll let you know later on if it actually pans out
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Lastly sort of in this like follow-up topic zero big news section of the show today
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Apple sent out invites to the WWDC keynote to everyone's surprise. No one surprise
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it is Monday June 3rd in San Jose in the conference center there they're probably
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gonna announce some software maybe some hardware we'll see maybe maybe a service
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or two you think they could be a service maybe? Maybe the ARM Mac Pro the mic will need to buy
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yeah possible maybe the ARM Mac Pro would be possible so the only person
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happy about that product if everybody that wants one I actually I would be
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happy about that actually. No, but like if everyone that wants to own one, like Steven
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I'm very pleased for you both.
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Especially Steven, because it's going to be his first Apple event.
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So no, that's very exciting, because he deserves it.
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We've got a couple of new apps we wanna talk about.
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Myke, I know you are a big time tracker.
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You've been doing a lot longer than I have.
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So could you tell us about Timery?
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- Yeah, I can.
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I love this application.
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I'm very happy that it's out now,
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so people will stop asking me when it's gonna come out.
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This Timery is a third-party time tracking app
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which uses the service Toggle,
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which is a time tracking application that I use
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and I'm a fan of, but the Toggle app
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always left a lot to be desired. That's generous, they're not very good. I'm really trying to be kind,
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I'm trying my best to be kind. I am a big fan of this application because it does everything that
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I want. It looks great, it's very simple, it's very fast to start timers. One of the things I
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like about this app, when you go in to start a timer, the first thing you do is start the timer
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running before you enter any of the information in, which just feels like the right way around
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to do things to me. It's made by a developer whose name is Joseph Hribar, who's a super nice guy too.
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I've been on this beta for quite a few months and he's been very accommodating of little features
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that I think would be good for the application. But as somebody who really believes in and quite
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heavily time tracks, I have a lot of thoughts about these types of things. But the application
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is very nice. I like that all of the entries are categorized really well and I can kind of at
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a glance get an idea of how much time I'm tracking. I use the widget that it has, the notification
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center widget constantly for a couple of things. One, it shows your current timer and you can stop
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it from there. It's like a super quick way for me to stop the timer. But you can also have listed
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there and in other views of the application saved timers. So if you have specific timers with like
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projects and tags that are very frequent for you. You can set them up so you can quite quickly,
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like when you first open the application, just fire them off because they're all kind of like
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templates that you can hit or they live in the widget. And it also has extensive series
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shortcut support where you can basically create whatever timer you want and it can be fired off
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with shortcuts. And there's a couple of other shortcuts in there too, to like check the current
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entry, stop the current entry, that kind of stuff. I haven't used the shortcuts too much because,
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to be honest, like, I...
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Well, the reason is,
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when I'm doing the work, I'm usually at a device,
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and so I just set it up on the device.
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Yeah, this is my problem with this, or not my problem,
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but I haven't used them either because if I'm doing work,
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I'm either at my Mac and I have toggle running,
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or I'm on my iPad or my phone with time-re.
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So I don't, I just open the app and do it.
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Maybe that's just, you know, months of muscle memory and I'll like move to using Siri at some point,
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but it hasn't made a big impact on me yet. I mean, but this is like maybe a part of a
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larger conversation for the fact that I actually do not ever trigger shortcuts by voice. Ever.
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Interesting. We can, we should probably talk about this at another time, but like I, I,
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I continue to find the experience to be less than reliable. Like I, I need what I feel like
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would be constant reliability from that feature.
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And I feel like I can't get it because Siri too frequently is trying to jump in.
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Like, for example, this app's name is Timery, right?
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Or and I think of my toggle timers as timers.
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Siri does not like me to use the word timer.
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Siri gets very upset if I use the word timer.
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And then it's like, how far do I really want to go
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to change my own mental model for what I'm calling things?
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And to be honest, it's not far enough, right?
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Like, I don't want to start thinking about my time tracking and my time tracking
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timers as like different words, because if I say like what, like if I say like, I set
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up a specific phrase and I ask Siri for it and then the HomePod just tells me I don't
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have any timers running.
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But what it's doing is looking for food or cook like the timers that I set for the
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clock app. You know what I mean?
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Like stuff like that is just too frustrating for me, which is probably why I haven't got
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that far with shortcuts because a lot of the applications and things that I want to do
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are things that the HomePod can do natively or Siri can do natively, right? So it's like calendar
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stuff and email stuff or whatever. And then the nomenclature is too close to what Siri thinks
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is native stuff. Right? Federico, do you find that? I mean, I'm sure that you probably have
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like a whole set of words that you use instead, but is what I'm saying... I do have the word
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Timer in them. Yeah, you see sometimes it works for me and sometimes it doesn't. It's the second
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it's the second word like for example I have I have article timer and that starts the mac stories
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posts timer that I have or I have like um I guess it depends I have a mix of them but I know that
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at least five or six of them have the word timer in it and um it's just I was listening to you both
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and I'm the complete opposite.
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So I work on the iPad and I have
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Timery there.
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And in fact, most of the time it's
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in SlideOver.
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But I think it's just easier for me
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to to just shout
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at the HomePod and
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start a timer.
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And it's relatively fast.
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It takes a couple of seconds.
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I mean, maybe maybe I should look
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at it again. I mean, honestly, it
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was kind of just like I was I was
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frustrated with it for a while, like
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it wasn't giving me exactly what I
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wanted and then I just stopped using
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I mean, I use shortcuts all the
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the time, but I manually activate them, right?
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And so plus, I think what it is as well, a lot of the shortcuts that I want to run,
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we're really kind of pushing into our last topic today already.
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A lot of the shortcuts that I want to run, they require action from me.
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So I feel like I can't get into a groove of always wanting
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to activate my shortcuts by voice because I can't activate them all by voice.
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If I was to think that, oh, shortcuts can always be Siri because I can,
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Siri can ask me a question and I can give an answer, I think I'll be more inclined to do it,
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you know? But the fact that like some you can and some you can't, some are like,
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oh, go check it on your phone. It's like, well, I should have just done this in the first place
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then, shouldn't I? So like, I think that that kind of disconnect is one of the things that's
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kept me away from using Siri for shortcuts, because it's not a consistent experience as
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to what I can actually achieve. And I think that's one of the things that's kind of like
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kept me away from it. But Timery is really good. Genuinely, if you are interested in time tracking,
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you should try it anyway and you should sign up for toggle. This only works with toggle,
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this application. It's like a third party app for this service. But if you are a toggle user,
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no question you should be using this app. It is so much better than the toggle app. The one thing
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it doesn't have is reports, but how often are you checking those? And when you need them, just go to
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to the website anyway because they suck in the iPhone app as it is so like that
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I think that this application is fantastic and I really really urge
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people to try it out it's free to download free to try and it has a
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subscription which enables a bunch more features I really really really love
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this application it's lived on my home screen since like the day I got the first
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beta and it has really made like a significant difference in how I've been
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tracking my time. Like I use this way more than I,
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but I don't use my shortcuts workflows, any shortcuts workflows,
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my shortcuts shortcuts for this stuff anymore.
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Like the stuff that Federico built and I've started to replace,
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like I have some more complicated ones that like set timers and open
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applications or whatever.
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And I'm slowly starting to like and have been for a while going through and
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replacing all of those with, uh,
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with time-ery actions instead because I just prefer the way that the app works.
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and I think that it is really well made and it's very well focused and I'm a big fan.
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Yeah, I absolutely love Timery.
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It has replaced all of my workflows and now shortcuts.
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As I mentioned, I activate the shortcuts via voice all the time,
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either on my phone or the watch or one of the many home pods that I have.
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I also do only have one home pod as well.
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Maybe that's like well, one home.
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I only have home pods in one room.
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Like I don't have them in my office, but I could always just ask because then because that's the other thing.
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I'm sorry, I'm going I'm going back to this again.
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The home pods are in the other room.
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And then if I say the the high telephone phrase,
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even though I then can't hear what it's saying to me properly,
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but it can hear me and then my phone won't do it anyway.
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Man, I'm on one today. I'm sorry.
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But I also in addition to the to to the voice shortcuts,
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I also use the Siri shortcuts for Timery as actions,
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as little action steps, part of my longer custom shortcuts
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in the shortcuts app.
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So for example, I have a shortcut that I run
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before I sit down to record a podcast,
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and this shortcut looks into my calendar,
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and depending on the event name,
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which would be connected or app stories or adapt,
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it starts a different
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timer shortcut, depending
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on the podcast that I'm about to
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I need to do this one.
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I need to do that. You told me about
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this before. And I feel like I have
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an idea of how you would build it,
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right? Like just hearing you say
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that. And I really need to look into
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So I also want to call out
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the integration with tagging
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These are two separate toggle
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features. So tags
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allow you to just
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tag your timers and later you can use these tags as filters
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or just as a better organization
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if you wanna use the reports in the web app.
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And unfortunately reports and stats
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are not available yet in Timery.
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But there's an API for those,
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so hopefully the developer will implement reports
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and stats in the future.
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Tasks are something that not a lot of people know about
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because it requires a premium toggle account.
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If you just use toggle for free,
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the task feature will be completely hidden
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from time area as well.
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But if you're a premium toggle user,
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you will be able to organize your projects
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with tasks which are effectively like sub projects.
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So for example, I have max stories
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and using the toggle task functionality,
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I can have max stories articles or max stories admin.
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You know, it's a way to break down a project
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into multiple areas.
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And with Timery, you can completely manage those tasks,
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and you can create saved timers for a specific project
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and a specific sub-task.
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It's really well done.
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And yeah, I guess there's one feature
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that John called out in our review on Mac stories,
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which is something that the Toggle Web App
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for desktop computers does very well,
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is the ability to group related timers.
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So for example, if during the day you've been working on and off on different projects,
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the toggle web app aggregates all the timers belonging to the same project into one condensed view,
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and there's a button on the right that you can press to expand all of those timers.
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And it's just a way to condense all of the related timers into a more compact list.
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And I would like to see a similar grouping in Timery as well,
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because right now Timery only lists your timers in reverse chronological order,
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so from the latest to the oldest.
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But I would like to see the grouping like the Toggle web app for desktop,
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because for some reason the Toggle mobile app also does not do grouping.
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Because the Toggle mobile app basically does nothing.
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And what it does, it just continues to do it in varying ways of bad.
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I've never known an application like this.
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Give them some credit. They launched the iPad version a mere two weeks ago.
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They did. I mean, at least it honestly, at least it finally exists, but don't need it because
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Timery is universal.
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Yes, of course. And it's very good.
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And it's one of the, I'm going to call it, it's going to be for sure one of the best app
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launches of the year in 2019.
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I mean, it's super awesome.
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And we all use it at Mac stories.
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It's really good.
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Hopefully now Myke...
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Just want a Mac version.
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Mac version, Mac version, Mac version.
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Just wait till the end of the year, no problem.
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This is perfect for Marzipan.
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It'll run really well on my ARM Mac Pro in December.
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It will, it will run natively on your ARM Mac Pro.
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Hopefully Myke now in the Cortex subreddit people will stop asking
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"When's the time tracking app that Myke and Gray keep mentioning?"
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I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding, it's switched over now.
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now now people are asking me for Android replace like oh no replacements it's
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like I can't help you you know I can't help you like you know if you listen you
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know I can't help you I have nothing for you super glad it's here but it's not
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the only new app we want to talk about this week our friend and sometimes enemy
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Casey lists frenemy has frenemy frenemy of the show it's not he's not he's not
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my enemy is Casey's a lovely man he smells like cantaloupe when you're up
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close to it's very strange it's kind of comforting what is cantaloupe like a
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melon it's like a orange melon I thought was like an animal like an antelope
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anyway Casey yes well okay see so he's been talking about this on ATP and
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analog for a while now and it's finally here it's called vignette and it is it's
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like the perfect iOS app that takes a very narrow set of problems and just
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executes very well on top of them.
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So the issue is we all probably in our contacts
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have people that we text with all the time
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or talk to all the time,
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and they don't have a photo in our contacts.
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It's just a gray circle with their initials over it.
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And look, I don't wanna live like that.
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I wanna live looking at people's faces.
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And in the past, before this app,
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that meant you have to go around to Twitter
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and find people's pictures.
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Maybe you took a picture of them at a wedding
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and you drop it into contacts on the Mac,
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but then it beach balls and crashes
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'cause it's contacts on the Mac.
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and it was very difficult to keep your contact database photos updated.
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Casey's app is designed to solve that.
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So it's an iPhone app.
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It skims your local contacts database.
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It does not upload them anywhere.
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It does not log into any of your accounts.
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It's all local on the device, which I love.
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So there are other services like this, like on the web.
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It's like you got to do some things your contacts you don't want to do.
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This app's all local and it searches for the people in your database.
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So it looks at Gravatar,
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which is where the bulk of mine came from.
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Someone's email address is in a contact record.
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They use that email address on Gravatar.
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It pulls their photo in.
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But it can also look at their Twitter profile,
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Instagram or Facebook, if you have their links
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to their social media accounts in your records
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of your contacts.
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And I don't have any of those.
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Most people probably don't.
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So Gravatar was the big fallback for me.
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But it goes out and fetches those images
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and then gives you a list saying,
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I found 32 people with updated images and it lets you select.
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I want to override all of them.
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I just want to override a select few.
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For instance, I have some people in my contacts that I very carefully chose the photo that
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I have for them in my contacts list.
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It's not necessarily the one they use on Twitter or elsewhere.
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So I could just skip over those people and use the photo that I already had.
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You hit apply and it applies to them and they sync everywhere and it's awesome.
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This is like the perfect example of you have an idea which is a thing that people actually
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want to fix and then you make an app that perfectly fixes it.
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It's just like, I think Casey did a really great job and like obviously he's a very close
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friend but I'm actually really proud of him because I think he's done a very very good
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job with this application and I think that it is worth people's time.
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Especially because you can download the app for free and do the scan of your contacts
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and you only pay when you apply the features.
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You pay and then you can apply the updates
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and then you can then do it for as many times as you want from that point.
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But you can actually see it's like a try before you buy.
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You can actually see if it's going to be of a benefit to you,
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because if you have a lot of friends who don't have any like a gravatar
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and you haven't put that information into the contact database
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like their Twitter account or their Facebook account or whatever,
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it's not going to find anything.
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So I think he did a really good job with the way in which he has done things,
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because you can work out if his app's going to be of any use to you before you buy it.
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I think he's done a genuine, I'm very proud of him.
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I think he's done a great job.
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We recorded an episode of Analog yesterday,
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which was fun because I always like talking to people just before
00:36:43
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something happens because you can kind of get those raw feelings.
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So if you're interested in what kind of like what it was like for him to make the app
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and then what it felt for him the day before he released it.
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You can go listen to episode 157 of analog.
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But this app is definitely worth your time as well,
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because it has actually genuinely solved the thing that I wanted solved.
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So it's great.
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Yeah, it's a very good app.
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And I'm like, I was surprised
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to how many of my contacts were without profile pictures.
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And it's just it's such a simple idea and it's been realized so well.
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and even the thought of adding a custom field for Instagram to the contact card, that was genius.
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So I should also point out that I'm only friends with folks who make great apps. So, you know,
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the disclaimer of saying "Walkaes is a friend" of course he's a friend because he makes great apps.
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I cannot be friends with developers who make terrible apps. It's like, for example,
00:37:49
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Like, all of my friends are handsome and beautiful.
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Like, I cannot be friends with ugly people.
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So, I have very high standards for my friends,
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and my friends make great stuff.
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So, I have, you know, I have filters for my personal life,
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and this is one of them.
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So, it's only natural that this is a great app,
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because it's my friend.
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So, if it sucked, I would have told Casey,
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"This app sucks, and you're no longer my friend."
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Yeah, if one of your friends makes a bad app.
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"Oh, I get upset. I get upset. I get real upset." Like, what have you done?
00:38:21
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You have to break up with them. You ruined everything.
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I was working on a project a while back with another person, and he came up to me with
00:38:29
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something that was ugly and terrible. Like, I basically told him, "Why would you bring this
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to my attention? Like, this is a waste of time. Do you know me at all?" And eventually we figured it
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out. You know, I have very high standards for everything. So, yep, I'm sorry. This is
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just who I am. Oh, okay. Wasn't expecting that look into your psyche, but here we are.
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MacBook Pros!
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You gonna chant?
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Do we have to talk about this?
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Is it important?
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I have to talk about it.
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I mean, if you want to get a coffee or something.
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Apple released a revision to their laptop plan yesterday.
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So just to confirm, this is important?
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No, no, just cool.
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You can take a break, because you've got to talk a lot next.
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Yeah, go get a coffee.
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Take a walk.
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I don't need...
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I was just double checking.
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No, it's fine.
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We can just call you back.
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For the last several years now, Apple has sort of cleared the decks before WWDC with
00:41:39
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announcements that aren't going to be in the keynote.
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I think sometimes they use these to signal expectations.
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Whatever the case is this year, there are some new MacBook Pros.
00:41:49
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So very quickly, the 13 inch width touch bar got a spec bump to faster CPUs in the base
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model and faster turbo speeds.
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So same machine, same 16 gig RAM limit, but faster Intel CPUs.
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Still the same generation, the eighth generation, but the 15 inch is really where most of the
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attention was placed with new six core and for the first time, eight core ninth generation
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So the 2399 model is six core i7,
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2800 bucks will get you an eight core i9,
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and you can configure an eight core i9
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with up to five gigahertz turbo boost.
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Apple says this is the fastest MacBook Pro
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they've ever shipped.
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It includes, of course, options for the Vega graphics
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that they added towards the end of the year last year.
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So in July, they had a big update to the MacBook Pro,
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that's where mine came from.
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They had a release in the fall with new GPUs,
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they have these. I totally love that Apple is spec bumping this computer as
00:42:53
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they can. You know, there was for such a long time there, it felt like their eye was
00:42:57
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off the ball with these sorts of updates. This is, Federico, to your point, this is not
00:43:01
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that necessarily that exciting of a MacBook Pro update unless you just
00:43:04
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really wanted eight cores. I mean, if you're really pushing a MacBook Pro, this is good
00:43:08
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news. But for most people, including myself, this isn't going to make me go
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out and radically change my setup, but it's a signal that Apple is
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willing to update these machines as it can, you know, every 10 months, 12 months somewhere
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So I think that's awesome.
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But I do think it raises some questions.
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And I've got a handful of them.
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One, will we ever see a 15 inch without a dedicated GPU again, so in the 2015 generation,
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and before the baseline 15 inch you could get with just the Intel integrated graphics.
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And as Marco talked about, sort of in that time, and as I agreed with, that was kind
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the machine to get if you wanted a bigger screen but you valued battery life and heat because the
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dedicated GPU runs a little hotter obviously has an impact on battery life. If you didn't need the GPU
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but you just wanted the screen size that was a really good option and that has gone away with
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with the Thunderbolt 3 machines and who knows if we'll ever see it again but it's kind of just a
00:44:09
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an asterisk on anytime they update these. But what's more interesting is what is going on with
00:44:14
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with the 12 inch MacBook and the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pro,
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which Federico Lovingly calls the MacBook Escape.
00:44:21
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- No, I do not.
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I came back from my walk to say that I do not.
00:44:25
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- The Verge called it the MacBook Escape in their article.
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- What, The Verge is wrong?
00:44:30
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The Verge is not God.
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- I'm just saying, like, I mean,
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that was Marco's nickname, so that's pretty awesome.
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It's made it into, like, mainstream.
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- Well, we're gonna have to revise this friend's situation
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with Marco then, if he insists on using nicknames.
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- Wait a second.
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- Does that override, he makes a good app,
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does that override his app?
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- See, that's the problem, he makes a great app,
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but he uses nicknames, so they sort of cancel out.
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- Interesting.
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- I guess we'll have to establish--
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- So he's on a level playing field.
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- Yeah, well--
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- So now I guess it's all about how attractive you find him.
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- Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see,
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I know he's been working out, he's been working out.
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We'll check it out with him.
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- The beard looks good.
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He's a dog person, he's a dog person.
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So by default he wins.
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So if you're a dog person,
00:45:20
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that defeats all the other factors.
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- So you can be not good looking,
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make a bad app and use nicknames,
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but if you have a dog, you're all good.
00:45:31
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- We can have some kind of acquaintance, yes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be fine.
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But if you're not good looking,
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make a bad app and use nicknames
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and also are a cat person, just don't even like,
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don't even walk near me, yeah.
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- What is your email address?
00:45:51
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- It's on my website.
00:45:53
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- Okay, great, cool, cool, cool.
00:45:54
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- So if you, please send me feedback.
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I really want to hear what you think about my weird
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and twisted psyche. - Grading system
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for human people. - Yes, mm-hmm.
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You were talking about this very important computer, yes.
00:46:07
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- Something. - GPUs.
00:46:08
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- Yes, so this is now the second release.
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This is now the second release where these two machines
00:46:15
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have not gotten an update.
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They are the same as they were in 2017,
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which means the old keyboard, old CPUs.
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My thought is that the non-Touch Bar machine
00:46:26
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is only there for a price point.
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The Touch Bar 13-inch is pretty expensive.
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It also feels sort of irrelevant
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in the era of the new MacBook Air.
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The Air kind of fills that price point.
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So do you need a MacBook Pro there?
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Is it just legacy?
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What's the deal?
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I still think, as I predicted, I think,
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or it was a non-graded pick,
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at some point I said in our predictions
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that I think this machine will go away.
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I still think that case is even stronger
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after this lack of updating.
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- It makes sense too that like,
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if that 16 inch rumored amazing MacBook Pro
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was probably never gonna replace either of these,
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like it would go in at the top end
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like the Retina MacBook Pro did, right?
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- Oh, of course.
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- So then the 13 with touch bar
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becomes just the entry MacBook Pro.
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- The base, sure.
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And yes, it's like whatever it is, $1499 or $1599.
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Yeah, so the rumor of this high-end,
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like 16-inch MacBook Pro with a new design,
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I think you've really hit the nail on the head
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of if and when that thing comes to pass,
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if it's at WWDC or if it's later,
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I think it will be exactly how they introduced
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the Retina MacBook Pro in 2012.
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They had the same MacBook Pros that they had.
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In fact, they revved them, I think, in that same day.
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And they said, hey, and now we have a new model
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at the top of the line.
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This is like the fancy one.
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All computers will be like this,
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but for now it's only the special one.
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And then over time it trickled down
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and now they all have run-in displays and look like that.
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So I think they will follow that pattern again this time.
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The 12-inch MacBook, I think,
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is the more interesting question here.
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Like, say the non-touch bar just goes away, whatever.
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It failed, the MacBook Air is here,
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the MacBook Air is awesome, you should get that instead.
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The 12 inch I think still does have a place.
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Now I still think it's probably too expensive,
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but I do think that there are people who value
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the thinness, and lightness, and portability above all else.
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And I really have come to understand this better
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in the last couple of weeks.
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I needed a second, normally in the summer
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I install the macOS beta on my MacBook Pro,
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and I leave my iMac alone because it's my production machine.
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But I have a lot of travel this summer.
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I've got several personal trips, I have WWDC,
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and of course now we can talk about it,
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I have this trip to San Francisco in August
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for our live show.
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I'm unwilling to run a Mac OS beta on a machine
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that I need for those sorts of trips.
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'Cause I gotta record shows live on stage,
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I gotta stream audio, and that's not the best thing
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to do on a Mac OS beta.
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And so I was thinking like, well, how am I going to run the Mac OS beta?
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Do I do an external drive?
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And then I remembered I have a 2015, the original one port MacBook.
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It was my wife's machine for a long time.
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She has a new air.
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And so I got up off the shelf and put Mojave on it.
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And I don't want to use that machine.
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It's slow and the keyboard is bad and one port is dumb, but the size is sort of intoxicating.
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I can see why people really like the thinness and lightness.
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So I've kind of come around on this machine existing because it's, it's so portable.
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I mean, it's like nothing else in the Mac line, even the MacBook Air that she has now
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feels way bigger and heavier than this thing.
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So I think there's still room for it to exist.
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Maybe they're holding off because it's going to be the first ARM Mac, as a lot of people
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have predicted.
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Maybe it's that they just haven't put the new Intel CPU in it.
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I do believe there are core end processors they could use, but they haven't gotten around
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to it for whatever reason.
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So that's kind of the shifting ground of the MacBook Pro is still like a problem.
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Like it's still unclear where these machines, how they fit together.
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But if you want a 15 inch, now seems like a good time to buy it.
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We do talk about the keyboards though.
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So the 2019 machines have a keyboard and Apple says that they have changed the material in
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the butterfly mechanism in a way that should substantially reduce issues that some users
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have seen with key sticking and debris and we all know that story. I guess we'll see if it works.
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This is now like the fourth iteration of this keyboard, depending on how you count them.
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Apple's still calling it the third generation keyboard because it has the membranes.
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So like, whatever, you can also count it as the fifth generation keyboard if you really
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like count very specifically. So whatever they keep the number doesn't matter. They keep re
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working this keyboard. And we'll see if it if it happens to fix it or if it doesn't. But what's
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What's really interesting is the keyboard repair program has been expanded to now cover
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all butterfly keyboards.
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So they lumped in the 2018 MacBook Pro and the 2018 MacBook Air, like we have in my household,
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and the brand new 2019 model.
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So if you buy a new $3,000 15-inch MacBook Pro tomorrow at the Apple Store with an 8-core
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CPU in it, it is covered under the keyboard repair program.
00:51:18
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And they also made a lot of statements to some outlets that they are doing a lot to
00:51:24
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-- I find this so funny, really -- to reduce the wait times and stuff like that, how long
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it takes to get things fixed if you do have a problem.
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It's kind of funny, right?
00:51:34
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Like Apple say -- and there's a great quote from Jason Snell's article where he's like,
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"While Apple is quick to say that the vast majority of the MacBook Pro customers haven't
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experienced any keyboard issues, the company still keeps tweaking this design."
00:51:47
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And it's like, if, if, cause Apple seem to like really want to talk about the fact that
00:51:51
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they don't get that many people with these problems, but yet at the same time they're
00:51:54
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extending the whole, like keep like the replacement program to everyone.
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They're making great strides at trying to like fix it.
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If you go in with a third generation keyboard, they will upgrade it to this new material
00:52:08
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model, right?
00:52:09
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Like it's like, yeah, I mean you, you say what you're saying and what you're doing,
00:52:15
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They don't really match.
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And it's like, okay, it's still maybe a small amount of people, but it's clearly more than
00:52:24
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Because you're having to go to all this trouble.
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I want to be clear because we glossed over it.
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It seems like the 2018 models will get the new 2019 keyboards.
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If you have an older one, you're not going to get this keyboard.
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So it's very limited in the changeover.
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My feeling is that it may make it better, but I think more important to Apple at this
00:52:41
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point is like the damage control angle.
00:52:44
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And look, when I bought my 2018, I got AppleCare on it because I get AppleCare on my computers.
00:52:50
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But I've heard from a lot of people and seen a lot of tweets and emails of people like,
00:52:53
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"I feel like I bought AppleCare just because of the keyboard."
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And now I guess it's sort of a sign of Apple saying, "We're going to take care of you no
00:53:02
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matter what with this keyboard issue."
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And I think that's good.
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I still don't know if it's fixed or if people should trust it.
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I will say that my 2018 has been mostly okay.
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the spacebar has gotten sticky twice,
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but compressed air has cleaned it out.
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No keys have broken off like on my 2016.
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Time will tell.
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And until then, Apple seems willing to do what it can
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to help the customers with this machine.
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Now, the thing they could do to help them the most
00:53:27
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is to have a new keyboard,
00:53:28
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but clearly that's not the time for that yet.
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So here we are, new MacBook Pros,
00:53:34
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slightly new keyboard, extended keyboard repair program.
00:53:38
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It's interesting they're doing it now.
00:53:41
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I guess they're kind of saying that, hey, if they had done this at WWDC, a bigger story
00:53:49
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during the conference would be the keyboards, and now this has its own new cycle and it
00:53:53
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will be gone by the time that the keynote comes around.
00:53:57
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So I see why they did it now, but it's a little bit of a bummer that it's not completely solved.
00:54:03
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What do you think about the rumor of the new MacBook Pro?
00:54:07
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Do you think this makes it more likely, less likely, or no different?
00:54:09
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I don't think it makes it any different.
00:54:11
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I still think they could do that in two weeks in San Jose and say, Hey, look,
00:54:15
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there's this new high end MacBook pro it's all fancy and new.
00:54:18
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It's obviously more expensive, more powerful, whatever new design.
00:54:22
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I think that's still totally on the table for WBC.
00:54:25
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I don't think this makes it less likely. So we'll see.
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I don't know how likely it is.
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I don't feel like say that I was 30% sure that it was coming.
00:54:34
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I don't think that number's changed for me because of this, but, uh, they can,
00:54:39
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If they do that, that path that we talked about a second ago about, this is a new
00:54:43
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machine, like the retina macro pro was, and eventually it stuff will trickle down.
00:54:48
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They could really do that at any point, I think, and be okay.
00:54:50
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Keyboards and laptops.
00:54:54
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I'd love to talk about this again, but we're not there yet.
00:54:59
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We're not there yet.
00:55:03
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Uh, I'm going to tell us, tell everybody about Texas spender.
00:55:06
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So Federico, you published the article that you've been talking about for the last couple
00:57:31
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of weeks, and I think probably in essence the best way to describe it, the magnum opus
00:57:37
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to working on the iPad right now, right, like this is everything.
00:57:41
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This is what, if you want to work on the iPad right now, this is the situation that we are
00:57:46
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in in the middle of 2019.
00:57:49
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So I kind of wanted to talk to you a little bit, well we all want to talk to you a little
00:57:53
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bit about the article and kind of where it came from and then I have some
00:57:57
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comments on the content itself. Okay. It was kind of funny because how many
00:58:02
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words? This is a big one it's like 50,000 words or something? This is 48,000 49
00:58:07
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almost a thousand words it's bigger than my iOS 12 review. Whoa! Wow! Wow really?
00:58:15
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Wow it was really funny because you sent this to us like a few days ago so we
00:58:18
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could read it beforehand.
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And it took me quite a while.
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But it was kind of funny.
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Like, Stephen was just like, oh, great.
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And then he popped in later on.
00:58:27
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And he was like, oh, that was really good.
00:58:29
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And it was like 90 minutes later.
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And I'd gotten through like a quarter
00:58:34
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in the same amount of time.
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It was just so heartbreaking.
00:58:37
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I'm a very fast reader.
00:58:39
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It disappoints my wife as well.
00:58:41
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Sometimes we're reading something together.
00:58:43
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I'm like, turn the page, turn the page.
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That's the worst.
00:58:46
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those people that like I hear my voice in my head when I read which you right
00:58:50
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which you obviously don't because you would not be able to do with it actually
00:58:54
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I hear your voice in my head yes it takes me takes me quite a while but I
00:59:00
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read through it oh it was really good but I kind of a feeling that I got
00:59:05
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though while reading the article was I I could just assume that when you set out
00:59:10
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to start this project, it probably wasn't the scope that it ended up being.
00:59:16
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Very good assumption, yeah. I don't know why exactly I feel that, but
00:59:21
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it just, well, maybe one like, probably not the best time of the year for you to be writing
00:59:26
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such a huge article considering you've got to do it again starting in two weeks, but...
00:59:31
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Okay, I get that, like, why would you want to do this now? But it is true that it started
00:59:39
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as a more limited article, but the scope grew quickly. So it's not like suddenly two weeks
00:59:48
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ago I realized, "Oh, I've been writing too much." So I'm going to talk about this entire
00:59:56
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process in the weekly newsletter this Friday, but basically I started thinking about wanting
01:00:04
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to have at least two big stories on the website before WWDC in February. And I just started
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saving some notes, some ideas, basically having like a super simple outline. And initially
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I wanted to do an iPad story and an Apple Watch story. And both of them, those ideas,
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those notes that I had, they did not have the scope of, you know, this major iOS review-like
01:00:33
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story. I kept those notes for like a month, so I kept thinking about those ideas, and
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then it was in late March when I decided, realistically speaking, I'm not going to
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be able to do two stories, and I'm going to focus on this iPad One, and I guess that
01:00:50
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it should have a bigger scope than what I initially set out to do. For example, it was
01:00:57
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not supposed to include accessories, it was not supposed to include the bridge keyboard
01:01:01
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and working with external displays, it was not supposed to include scriptable and JavaScript automation.
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So all those elements were supposed to be like separate posts that I wanted to have on Mac stories,
01:01:15
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and realizing that I'm not going to be able to do two stories, so I just want to do one,
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and I want to make sure that it leaves an impression.
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That forced me, and that happened during the mind mapping process,
01:01:29
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That forced me to reconsider the scope of the story and say, "Okay, maybe there's a way that I can expand
01:01:37
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and still have it feel like a single cohesive story instead of a bunch of sort of disconnected posts."
01:01:47
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So I spent a few days in the mind map trying to make sense of it all.
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And there were still a few sections that got cut.
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There was a section about the Apple Pencil, there was a section about iPad apps that have a three column layout.
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Both of them were cut.
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But yeah, it started as a more simpler thing.
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Like I was just gonna talk about multitasking file management and wishes for iOS 13.
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But then I realized, you know, I'm gonna be able to do just one story,
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because we were also launching other projects and all of that.
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But also, you mentioned why would you want to do this before WWDC?
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You're gonna have to write a long article again in a few weeks. That is true, but I realized I
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want to go to WWDC
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with an article that maybe people can read during the trip to San Jose.
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And I wanted to make sure that I will have something that people will keep thinking of at
01:02:49
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WWDC, like have people go to San Jose with this article on their minds and
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to sort of have one final update because I know that iOS 13 is gonna change things right for the iPad and
01:03:01
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I didn't want all my experiments and all my setup changes and all my research go to waste
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So I want to have like one final
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update one final sort of like state of the Union type of article before
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PwC so that people would keep thinking of that so that maybe I could
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They could draw some comparisons between my article and what ends up being in iOS 13
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but also I wanted to
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This is effectively for me an investment in my sanity going forward because in my iOS 13 review
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I will not have to waste, well not waste, but you know spend as much time
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historical context for
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or "This is how file management used to be" or "This is how multitasking used to be"
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because I've already done the work in May and April. So that's why.
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Does this feel like a new annual story? Or is this like you wanted to catch everybody
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up and then there's that?
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Yeah, not an annual thing. I've done iPad stories before, I've done one in 2014 with
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the iPad or two and I did one in 2016 for the first year of the iPad Pro, I think.
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I don't see myself doing an iPad state of the union like this every year.
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Maybe every couple of years.
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I don't know if I would do a story of this scope again.
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There's only so much you can say about like here's why I use the iPad and I said I don't
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want to repeat myself every couple of years.
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I'm going to talk about this later, if you accept the fact that I like to work on the
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iPad, well, this is it. This is why. I cannot see myself in 2021 or something, saying again,
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"Well, it was 2012 when I was doing chemo, and that's why I started using the app." It's
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not a story that I want to tell every couple of years.
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I think you did it justice by using the review layout on the site, because A, there's just
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so much here. Reading it as a flat blog post would have been difficult. But I
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think it's nice because it's broken up that say that multitasking gets a big
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overhaul in a couple weeks or you know shortcuts get some amazing overhaul in
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five years. You've built it for your use case of referring to it in the
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future that you can point people to a direct section and say this is
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you need to go if you want the background. And I think it deserves this sort of fancy layout,
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because it is such an incredible piece of work. The animations are amazing. You guys talked to
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Brian who helped you with the animations on App Stories this week. People should go check that out.
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But it feels as a reader like the big story that it is. And I like that you've sort of
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put a flag in the ground saying this is where we are with iOS 12 up to this point.
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Because A, clearly you believe that iOS 13 has the ability to change a bunch of this stuff,
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and that hopefully there's a lot of these complaints and issues in here just won't be
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a problem in two weeks. But even if they're not, it's sort of a capturing a moment in time with
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where you are with it. And even if things don't change in two weeks, they will hopefully change
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in the future. And I think that's kind of important when considering a platform that's
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that's still as dynamic as iOS on the iPad.
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- Thank you, yeah.
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I hope that's the case.
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I mean, even if iOS 13 ends up being a major disappointment
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for the iPad, there's still this article,
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it's still gonna be valid.
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But one of the, you mentioned capturing a moment in time,
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one of the things that is always difficult for me
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is to strike a balance between what is personal
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and what can be also relatable for other people.
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like, when I'm writing a personal story like this one, it's about my usage of the iPad.
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Am I writing it for me or am I writing it for other people? And of course, I want to
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make sure that other people, that readers, can get something out of it. So those sections
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that I cut, where they felt to me a little too personal, like I was writing them just
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as a personal research exercise and not with... they were not something that I felt that readers
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could get some value out of. And so striking this balance of, for example, the podcasting
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setup from the Chapter 5, the external accessories, that is incredibly personal. And in the sense
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that it's the setup that I like that works for me that I do not recommend to other people
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because I wrote as much in the story. But it underlines a bigger point of how does the
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iPad Pro work with external USB and audio accessories in the context of the USB-C port
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in the 2018 iPad Pro?"
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And the answer is, it's pretty terrible.
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But still, it kind of works for me.
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And so, that, despite the extremely personal nature, it felt like a good example.
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So that really was the... when I was working on the notes and the mind map before I started
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writing, going through all the sections and trying to apply this filter of "is this something that I
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that I'm gonna have fun writing about?" but also "is this gonna be useful in the context of
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does it prove a bigger point? Does it fit the underlying theme of the story?" and if it did not,
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then it got cut. So yeah, I really like the conclusion. There was like one line that really
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resonated with me in a way that I wasn't expecting. So you were kind of talking about the fact that
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that when Steve Jobs introduced the iPad,
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it was referred to as like this third device, right?
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That like your iPhone is great for this
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and your Mac is great for this,
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but sometimes wouldn't it be nice
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if each of them had a bit of each other
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and there could be this device in the middle?
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And it was like, oh, here's the third device.
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So you say today the iPad Pro is my laptop,
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the iPhone is my pocket computer,
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and the Mac is the third device
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that's better at specific tasks.
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I didn't really realize that that's kind of where I am,
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but it is where I am.
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And it's just, it's my own personal use cases
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for these devices that has led me to this position.
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But it is kind of funny to see that like, you know,
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nearly 10 years later, that the idea of the third device
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for some people has changed and that's kind of where we are.
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And I really, really heavily resonate with that.
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- Yeah, I'm pleased that you liked that.
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And it sort of, it plays into this theme,
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this idea that there's some people out there who believe that certain design decisions
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are sacred, they should never change, and whatever Steve Jobs decided ten years ago
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should be forever. And you see this in UI design, you see this in hardware design, and
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I think that's a sad outlook, that's a sad way, and really a limited way to look at not
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not just technological progress, but life. Because time moves on and things change. And
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the iPad maybe started as a way to read a book or read the New York Times or just chill
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on the sofa and browse the web. But it is so obvious that over time it has become so
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much more. And not because Myke Hurley and Federico are making this up or are sort of
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trying to make this a trend.
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So it's not propaganda that we're attempting to spread.
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Apple is selling an iPad called the iPad Pro.
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Like, I couldn't make this up if I wanted to.
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It's a thing that Apple is selling.
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And we're just following the evolution of this product.
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And so I was concerned about using that analogy
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or sort of trying to flip that quote on its head
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and say the iPad is now the notebook
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and the Mac is the third device.
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because I, you know, I'm going to talk about this in a bit, but I try whenever possible
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not to make people upset. And while this may be, you know, I say a bunch of silly things
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on this show, but I feel like listeners know that I'm kidding, I hope. Like, for example,
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I can be friends with non-good looking people. Like, I've...
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No, no, you, everyone, you should see what he's been texting us during the show. It's
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horrific the things he's been saying.
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Sure. I feel like listeners can separate, on a podcast I feel like listeners can separate
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sort of the character that I play sometimes with the real person that's doing the podcast.
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But when I write something that is taken, like it gets passed around and people take
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screenshots and they quote sections on Reddit. You know how it goes. It's easier for something
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that you write to be used against you. And so I was concerned about that quote, but the
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more I thought about it, the better it felt and it felt true. And then when I shared it
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with you, you told me this is true for me as well. And so that was like, well, I guess
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I'm just going for it. So I'm glad that it worked.
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What is the other point that you wanted to make about this stuff?
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Yeah. Well, I guess it comes with the territory of whenever I publish these stories, there's
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a subset of people in this community, the community of folks who read max stories and
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maybe they're in fireball and maybe listen to a few relay shows, that they believe that
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I and others are on some kind of payroll by Apple and that we're just spreading propaganda
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like you said or that it's in our interest to write positive things about Apple because
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I genuinely believe, those people believe we get paid, which is not true, obviously.
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I get paid because I'm fortunate enough to have sponsors and subscribers.
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But it's one thing to believe that, and it's totally fair.
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But I was taking a look on Reddit and Twitter, and there's some comments that really make
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you think like what is it the the image that people have of what I do and just
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scrolling through the reddit thread I was called a snake oil seller yeah yeah
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I'm trying to think of all the other things yeah like this idea that the iPad
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is terrible therefore if you write about working on the iPad you are writing
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false information because all you care about is being considered by Apple for
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whatever reason they believe, whatever crazy theory they have. And also there's
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the fact that every time I write about the iPad, and I make
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sure to convey this point, I'm not trying to prove that the iPad is better than
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the Mac for everybody, I'm trying to prove that it's better for me, and that maybe by
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sharing my experiences, there's going to be other people who can find that useful.
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But I never try to say "Apple should stop selling Macs", or "The Mac is done, goodbye
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The entire point of this article is that I beli—and I literally wrote this and quoted
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this and used pull quotes throughout the story to highlight this point is that I believe there are
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certain ideas that Mac OS got right decades ago and that Apple should maybe take a look at those
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ideas again and reconsider them for iOS. But there's still a few folks who tweet at me and
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share comments on Reddit. This is ridiculous. Well, trolls can't be bothered to actually read
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read what you write. So the type of people who are going to throw grenades on Twitter
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aren't the type to actually take what you say seriously. They just want to troll.
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Look I am used to this, right? I've been doing this for 10 years. All these being called
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names, there's folks who call me pathetic or ridiculous and I wish I was kidding but
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this is actual, these are actual words that people use for an article. First of all, I
01:15:49
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I think it's said that, no, not for me, it's said for you that, you know, instead of, like,
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you want to criticize my work, fine, but why would you need to call anybody, not just mean
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names on the internet. It's really not classy or elegant. It's really not a, personally
01:16:05
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speaking, I don't think it's a good, you know, it's a good way to live your life, to call
01:16:09
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other people pathetic or ridiculous. But I think it's, what saddens me is that for some
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people I am not able to convey the fact that I genuinely believe in what I write. And it's
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that some people always see the conspiracy behind it. They believe that I'm doing this
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because Apple is paying me. And I wish there was a way for me to fix those people, like
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to say, "Why don't you believe me?" Not because I need them, but because it makes me sad that
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they think that of me, right? It's like, I don't know, maybe I'm not able to convey my
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feelings here, but it's just, I find it sad that this is generally what I believe in and
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what I'm passionate about. I guess it's just impossible to please everybody, and there's
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always going to be, especially once you put your work on the internet, there's always
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gonna be folks, you know, from nine-year-olds to, you know, old people who've been using
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computers for 50 years. It's always gonna be somebody that doesn't like you, for whatever
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reason. That is fine, but it still saddens me to an extent. So, yeah, wow, that felt
01:17:31
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good to say this. Yeah. Yeah. But let's not focus on that, though, right? No, no. That's
01:17:37
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not what this is about. Like, you've produced something which is very interesting and I
01:17:42
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I think quite important. I'm very happy with it. I'm very honestly I'm very happy with what I did.
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Yeah good you should be I mean it's wonderful like so I just don't want you to
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One obviously you shouldn't think of it that way, but I don't want I'll listen is the thing that that's what this is about
01:17:56
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This conversation. Yeah. Yeah, totally
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that the vast majority of people have been extremely kind and and like the response I
01:18:06
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I was not expecting to have the kind of response that an iOS review would get in September
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when there's more attention and people have been looking forward to that in May, which
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is incredible.
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So I'm extremely happy for the overall reception and response from readers and everybody else.
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So it's just, you know, those people, they're still on my mind sometimes, but I'm very happy,
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Yes, I feel very good.
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You should be.
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You deserve that.
01:18:35
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It's an incredible piece.
01:18:36
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obviously linked in the show notes, take some time, go through it and you will enjoy it.
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And for somebody like me, who I am primarily on the Mac, I went through it and downloaded
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three or four apps and a bunch of shortcuts because like as you were talking about things
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like, Oh, that'd be great if I could solve this or do it this way. And I think I think
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the biggest example for me is the local storage deal. So in the files app, there is on my
01:19:03
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iPad storage and then there's a bunch of folders for apps that populate things there.
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But as a user I can't put things there and there's a third-party app that basically fixes
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It's like, "Oh, this is something I need right now and now it's on both my devices."
01:19:18
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So it's not just Federico talking about Federico things.
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There is real everyday use tips and things in here that are useful to all sorts of people.
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So thank you for improving the stuff I'm doing on the iPad by letting me read it.
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Anything else to talk about this?
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You're still going to do your iOS 13 review.
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Is there anything you're going to take from this into that review?
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I know you mentioned that now you feel like you don't have to do as much backstory in
01:19:47
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the review, but are there certain things that came up in this article that you're going
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to make sure to touch on again in the fall?
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Yeah, I mean all the core chapters, so file management and working with external keyboard
01:20:01
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and shortcuts, all of those will be key areas of interest in the review. I guess something that I
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took away from working on this is that maybe the review layout could use some modernization on the
01:20:17
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the website we've been using this special layout for the iOS 11 review, iOS 12 review,
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and now this story. So there's probably a few... I don't want to change it, like I don't
01:20:28
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want to have an entirely new design, but I would like to do some improvements this summer,
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if we have time. So there's a few things that I would like to improve. I'm definitely going
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to do the 3D rendered animation again.
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Yeah, working with Brian has been awesome.
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And the freedom of having 3D models instead
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of static 2D templates in Sketch or Photoshop
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has been so much better.
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Yes, please.
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Because we can try all sorts of crazy ideas.
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And maybe even increasing the output of those images,
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not just to use them for the initial page of a chapter,
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but maybe more throughout a chapter. That would be nice. I guess the entire setup that I had for
01:21:17
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writing this story, so using iA writer in combination with working copy and scriptable,
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has been awesome. We, thanks to Brett Terpstra, he made a very custom, very extremely specific
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template for IA Writer that allowed me to preview the story with the same special layout
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that I would get on Mac Stories on the website.
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I was able to preview the table of contents navigation, the chapter images, everything inside of IA Writer.
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So that saved me so much time and just being able to manage my screenshots locally
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with Scriptable, NIKL Drive, and IA Writer all together. It was incredible. So the entire writing setup,
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I'm glad that it took me a couple of weeks to get it right, but that worked extremely well.
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I was able to upload basically 150 screenshots in a couple of hours.
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In one afternoon.
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But then this is the other part, you now don't need to spend the first two weeks of June
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working out what your setup's going to be for your review this year.
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Yeah, which is also going to be super, super useful.
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That's a big benefit because you know that it always takes me a couple of weeks to say,
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"Hmm, what am I going to use this time for research and all of that?" So yeah, also moving
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from Evernote to Apple Notes before working on this story also helped. I was very surprised
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that I would...
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Just helped my general mental state.
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Yes. Yeah, totally, totally. But really, to give you a timeline, I basically started writing
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on April 14, and I was done in two weeks with the writing.
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So 50,000 words done in two weeks, and then two, three,
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three more weeks of editing.
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So two weeks of writing, three weeks of editing.
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I wrote super fast, because it was so much easier
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to write than an iOS review.
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Because I was writing out of personal experience.
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And if anything, you could argue that the research had been done for seven years before,
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not in two weeks at the beginning of the beta season.
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And it was a very different process.
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I didn't have to keep track of beta one and beta two and beta three and all the changes
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in all the betas.
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It was like, this is how I use the iPad.
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This is stuff that I already know, so I can just write.
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I don't need to wait for developer documentation to go live.
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I can just write what I know.
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And it was a nice change of pace from an iOS review.
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If you want to find links to all the stuff
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we spoke about this week, you can head over to the website,
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relay.fm/connected/244.
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While you're there, you can get in touch.
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There's an email link there in the sidebar
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for feedback and follow-up,
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or of course you can do that on Twitter.
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You can find Federico there as Vitici, V-I-T-I-C-C-I,
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and he is the editor-in-chief of maxstories.net.
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You can find Myke online as I-M-Y-K-E,
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and Myke is the co-host of a bunch of shows
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here on Relay FM.
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You can find my writing online at 512pixels.net.
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You can find me on Twitter as ismh.
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As a reminder, we are doing a live show
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in August in San Francisco.
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That link is in the show notes.
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If you're going to be in the area, we would love to see you.
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It's going to be a really special evening.
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I'd like to thank our sponsors this week, Backblaze, FreshBooks, and TextExpander.
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And until next time, gentlemen, say goodbye.