00:00:00 ◼ ► I was always just thinking this process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► that would save me I just thought like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► well I'll just I'll stick it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► nobody knew file system here probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► next year and I've been thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► well I spent this morning trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/10">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► parallel eyes the lame mp3 encoder why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/13">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► why not very hard problem that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/16">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► been solved since like the early two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/20">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► thousands and I often need to encode our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/21">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► show mp3 which takes probably i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/26">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► know 90 seconds to include it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► it's a surprisingly long time for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/31">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► modern computing tasks like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► that annoys me and so I figured why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► don't I spend the afternoon seeing if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► can paralyze the the mp3 encoder and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► have to enter there are faster encoders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► than the lame encoder and I know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► hard for me to talk about being know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/49">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► that the word lame is really not a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► word to say but it's kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► like the gift photo editor like also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► a nice word to say and for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► reason these open source project named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/61">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► themselves these acronyms without regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► to what those words mean and how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► hurt people so i'm sorry in advance but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► it's called the lame mp3 encoder it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/68">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► it is I i have tested many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► encoding options for podcast audio from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► mp3 AAC the HEA see like the the mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► spectral record things to these formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► and simple joint stereo with the lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► mp3 encoder is by far the the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► quality and at the best bit rates that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► it's really it's really quite good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► difficult to parallel eyes at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► while also doing it well and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► what I'm kind of trying to do here just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► for ATP well I mean ideally I would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► know ship this to other people as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► you know maybe open source it or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/110">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► just embedded into my production tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► about that I have to at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/114">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► hopefully maybe release so that it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► it could be helpful because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► problems is like we've basically hit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/120">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► wall of single-threaded performance on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► modern computers like we're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► getting much better at that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► that's like one of the only tasks that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► do a regular basis my computer where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► 4 gigahertz on my own one core so if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► can eliminate that that that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► happy with my computers and it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► happier with you know potential future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► imax and mac pros and macbooks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► things because I can include our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/145">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► you for eight times faster and fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► enough that doesn't matter anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► that makes sense well good luck i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► i'd love to see that happen because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► think would make a lot of people very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/157">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► happy but got that sounds like a royal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► pain in the hindquarters it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► the the one saving grace of this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► that you know normally if you're dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► with like a non-trivial sized open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► source project or heck even regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► dependency hell and usually it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► hard to get to the point where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► even build the thing let alone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► trying to make changes and you know try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► to test things and it it is such a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► because they all depend on with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/186">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► weird crazy libraries that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► have that yet that are hard to install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► mac OS 10 or something and it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► pain usually lame is actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/193">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► simple there's not much to it it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► not very many files and there's as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/199">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► dependencies and except maybe like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► know basically be stuff that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► has so it's pretty it's really actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► quite pleasant to work on so kudos to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► the lane project this all see your C++ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► it's all see which is also nice guy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► don't really know a lot of c++ so it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► a movie piercy is is also kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/221">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► it's like back a few jobs ago back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► you actually had a job yeah exactly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► still like see a lot I mean I recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► working and see nowadays it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► having like a like a classic car that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► you work on your garage you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► like it's like it's really it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► fulfilling and its really nice and cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► did if if that's like your personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► hard-pressed to justify using it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► like quote real work anymore but but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► really do enjoy working with it now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► the on you know on the occasion that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/258">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► anything's better than perl PHP am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► well this year mac pro support this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► not good times for John siracusa that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► not so bad times either marcos theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► yeah my theory was the heart hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► like encryption instructions that intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/279">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► nope well I mean we didn't get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► official word on it but talking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► whole bunch of people hey why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/287">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► think they dropped support for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/288">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► computer that computer the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► consensus was that they just dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► support for computers that are old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► because it's a pain in the butt to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/295">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► supporting them and there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► supporting and if you do anything to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► that changes sort of the driver model or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► the requires drivers to be even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► recompiled or change in some subtle way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► supporting old hardware like say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► airport card that could be put into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► 2008 mac pro that's kind of a pain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► you don't want to bother with that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► the big one I think is a video drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► participation from the video card vendor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► whether it be a AMD ati or nvidia in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/323">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► creation of the drivers for OS 10 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► these various GPUs and apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► wanna keep doing that and usually if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► were to go to AMD and say hey we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► making a new version of the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► system can you help us or either help us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/338">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► to or do entirely on your own drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► for that work with the Sierra colonel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► and this ancient 2008 mac pro I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► think they're came to do that but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► lots of reasons why you might want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► support old hardware and yeah no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► specific smoking gun for any particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► hardware feature that is not supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► and adding adding to this pile of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► support for the idea that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► because it's old is that 2009 macros are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► also not supported the contrary drove i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► so that means my work Mac can't run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/374">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► Sierra either we're gonna do I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► wait i'm going to wait until the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/379">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► it's almost it's almost this you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► I everyone gets laptops at work now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► i'm going to wait until the new macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/385">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► pros come out and then i'm going to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► another month and then I'm going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► a new computer work now you you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► realize that the new macbook pros will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► almost certainly have the arrow key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► I'm not gonna use that keyboard yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► that's it it's just gonna be sitting off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► to the side with a screen that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► look at connected to an external screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► like i'm just using it as a weird-shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► mac mini that's my plan because i only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► have one screen at work and it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► great screen but whatever it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► so I'll keep doing that are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/417">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► want to get the 15-inch so i can put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► mirrored display mode but that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/419">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► much i'm not going to use a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► screen just so my windows and crap won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► move when i disconnect the monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/425">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► availability the same as on both you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► know I mean that's my current plan i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► love that your current plan like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► clearly didn't even consider another mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► pro well I cannot work would never buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/435">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► that for me like I my back was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► mac at the entire company and I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► get special dispensation to get it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► it was like way more expensive than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► four hundred dollar piece of crap dell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► laptops they were getting everybody back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► mine was like the cheapest possible mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/450">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► hundred dollars and it took so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► nowadays they're better about buying max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► if you want and they'll buy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► their danger 15-inch macbook pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► that's what I plan on getting but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► the mac pro is not an option either is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/468">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► an imac for that matter would you get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► imac over a macbook pro if you had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► yes I would is the is the base model 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► imac not price competitive with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► 15-inch macbook pro I don't think its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► price i think it's in understand big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/483">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► corporations they just want to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► the way they want to do them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► want regularity and uniformity they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► don't want you to be a special snowflake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/491">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► on specific computer they only having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► support and know and understand two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► kinds of computers on the backside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► whatever I don't maybe i'll ask about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► but this is exactly my experience like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► my company is get least Max and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/505">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► there are two year leases and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► your choices are macbook pro if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/511">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► some sort of development work i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► a macbook air if you don't or some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► of god awful dell and those are may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► actually might be an HP some awful got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/520">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► some sort of god awful pc but it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► of those three and if you want anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► else under the Sun well tough noogies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► because this helped us does not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► support it so I'm right there with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► microprose very nice and I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► complaints i'm just saying that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► the way corporate America works you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► conform you must be one of the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► that 1984 commercial you must be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► faceless number in the crowd that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► using one of the Blessed computers i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► miss the days when I was unsupported too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/548">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► because when I was the first company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/549">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► like all right but you're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► totally unsupported like yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► exactly what I won't get to be totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► unsupported don't touch my computer ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► do nothing to it unfortunately now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► macs are officially supported I am beset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► on all sides by terrible things like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► your mac to the active directory network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/565">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► no all right run symantec antivirus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/566">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► your Mac that's real important run these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► other applications in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► that will grind your cpu to death as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► does who knows what it's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► terrible that we have one question do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► you have to install adobe acrobat I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► don't have to but it could be installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► on my behalf silently in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► any day come to work who knows what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► happened to my computer because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► under my control they just force install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► software on it whenever they want none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► of that software makes my experience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► using the computer better but supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/594">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► yeah whatever I can't believe you stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► for anyone else having any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► understand that you have no choice i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► told you get that but you of all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► allowing that vulnerability if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► I am stunned that you that you stand for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► that it's wrong foot working you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/614">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► the final bit is like how sad is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► really it's not really that said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/620">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► installed Sarah mid-2008 mac pro it runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► fine because i have an aftermarket GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► installers little bit cranky about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► but if you just like i'm installing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► external disk at this point because Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► developer release so i installed it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► an external hard drive using my 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► macbook air and then i just deleted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/636">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► library core services platform support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/641">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► plist just dunno I'm renamed or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► and then I'm a cube pro 2008 boots from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► it just fine and it runs fine far as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/647">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► can tell so I don't think it'll be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► big a deal i may end up doing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/653">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► thing with my mac at work about I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/654">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► but uh don't you know I'll i could try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► that right before i give up and say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► fine get me the new laptops or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► anyway if you have a 2008 prime macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/666">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► you see i might work for you if the set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► of hardware you have is not the stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/673">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► set of hardware that came with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► computer so hold on a second so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► generally do some amount of work at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► on a semi-regular basis is that correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► personal machine because you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► yeah so that's cool with you like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► an external hard drive is just like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► have like seven hard drives connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► my computer like for internal and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► external and have them are turned off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/699">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► most of the time the other ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► mounted most of the time it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► easy to just put a beta OS on external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► drive as a reboot and boot off of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► unmount all my other drives when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► launched nice like it's not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► concern right now i'm gonna i'm not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► Sierra at all is on a general level you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► you have put you have infected your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► computer with work-related things is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► well now because I just remote desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► into my with my make it work to do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► ok so you have infected with some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► of VPN connection i have infected the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/727">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► VPN software is installed for me to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/728">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► on the VPN enough to about desktop i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► gotcha ok so any of the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► isn't really strictly speaking happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► locally and and really it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► happening in my mackie their meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/739">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► from then and assess aging and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/740">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► actually doing development on my mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► really I mean except for like the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► browsers around all the actual code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► everything else is on servers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► gotcha all right now that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► I i did not know that ok anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► about the mac pro sport it will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/758">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► anything else today alright I the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► show live this was recorded tuesday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/764">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► I'm sorry tuesday before this past God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► knows by the time this thing's releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/771">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► try to two months ago but anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► tuesday that on WABC was going on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/775">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► was a talk show again this year was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► two years ago that we were guess I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► and then you know the only the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/784">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► reasonable conclusion after having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/785">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► is to have a filler who followed up last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/792">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► year and then this year what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► gonna do well why not have Phil Schiller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► and Craig federighi and we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/800">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► there we were sitting in the front row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► and it was amazing and i cannot say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► enough good things about this this talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► show if you are not a regular talks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► listener if you're one of the ten people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► that do not listen to the talk show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/815">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► do listen to the show I cannot encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► you enough to listen to this episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► the talk show will have a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/822">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► show notes it is excellent there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► a video I which was very good from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► I've gathered i haven't actually watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/827">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► it myself but seeing Craig and Phil talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► to each other and talk to the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► and talk to John Gruber all of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► above was amazing and there's a few line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► items that we'd like to go through about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► that but one of the things that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► kind of laugh and and really that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► loved about it made me love Craig better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► even more was as the talk show is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/850">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► Craig on the surface looked comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► but if you really looked at him for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► than a second you realize he is not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► love with what he's doing right now not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► like not the john was doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/864">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► wrong not that phil was doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► wrong you can just tell the Craig was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► like a little nervous and not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► comfortable with what was going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► he was leaning forward a lot he he kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► tonight i did the same thing when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/876">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► were on the talk show at that dub he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/877">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► kept leaning forward and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► putting his his elbow on his knee and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► propping his head up and then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► you could really realize that kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► looks a little weird for those in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► audience then he would try to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/890">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► casually put his arm down which I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► if we look at the video of me onstage I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► probably this 35 times but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► there's a lot of that but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► struck me the most was when John Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/899">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► talked about something developer related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► not only did Craig have impossibly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► answers for all the questions sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► more forthcoming then maybe he should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► have but he SAT bolt upright every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/916">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► and he was so confident and so sure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/920">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► to see and god I love that guy so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/925">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► I mean it really was you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► you can think about like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► what kind of show would you expect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► have where Apple executives give an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► interview you know and and if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► about it just like that you might think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► well they shouldn't be you know going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► over PR talking points and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/945">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► and certainly some of what they say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► PR talking points but it most of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► isn't and most of it is like yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/951">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► won't talk to this weekend without yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► but I basically reviewed the show for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► John on his own chosen no he wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► it himself and so forget the repetition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► here but i think one of the best insight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/965">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► about the first of all is that we got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► see to apple executives interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► each other and you never see that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► even people in apple hardly ever see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► that it's okay to see that in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/978">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► contact these these two people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► clearly have known each other for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/984">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► long time and working for a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► time to people on top of their game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► phil and Craig are really excellent at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► their jobs and they both have incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► deep knowledge about the stuff that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► care about and the stuff that grouper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► would be asking questions about activity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► c so like I was thinking like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► we were speculating beforehand know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► who's gonna have this you have this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► and you know one of the one of the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► what if he asked him cook and having Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► Cook would be like it'd be really like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► great badge of honor it would be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► really noteworthy thing but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► having filling Craig is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► better set for that audience for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► time because phil is really lit in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► ways it seems like he is kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► the head of product direction on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► level and and you know it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► kind of a shared role in Steve's absence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► you know Johnny obviously has something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► I think Tim still has some probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► something to do with it as well and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► knows who else but it seems like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► of that falls on Phil just display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► products students in general also phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► so again like very relevant to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► audience and then you have a federal key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► engineering stuff but i don't think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► lot of us knew quite how much of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► engineer he is and also you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► only does he have deep technical chops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► but he also has deep knowledge of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► specific implementation details of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► stuff they're doing now so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► he ascended into the into like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► ivory tower and is just like dictating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► things down to his minutes have them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► all the work and he's just being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► figurehead he's clearly still very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► involved in those decisions and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► like very very very technical down too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► deep levels and and able to explain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► so to have that combo of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► product guy in the app store guy and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► know infill and then to have Craig as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► like the technical head is is really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► think the perfect combo to have at WC + [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► i think their personalities work really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► well both in general and also with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► Gruber being the interviewer so overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► I I i would much rather have them then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► have Tim in that context and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► was as good as it possibly can i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► mostly agree with other team would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► been more boring but I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► about it more since the DC we could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► it really does depend on the topic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► you're interested in you know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► mentioned Johnny I've obviously if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► questions about design stuff he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► guy you want and Phil is not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► able to give you much they're neither is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► Craig for that matter because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► know product design whether it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► hardware or software is Johnny's domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► and a lot of the decisions that are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► they're at their you know i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► imagine that they could add some inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► of you need you want the man himself if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► you wanna get that information so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► there's Johnny set aside and then Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► after Apple comes out with the car the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► guy you want to talk to him cook until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► you know like the deep car people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► because your main question is why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► Apple chosen to make a car and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► person who can answer that best is tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► cook right because that's a decision at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► his level so I would actually like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► see tim cook at some point but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► topics i was interested in this year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► yeah I'd rather hear from craig and to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► lesser extent filled because I'm much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► more interested in the technical less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► interested in the app store stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► the WC like you said a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► interested in appstore exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► live is a topic in the follow-up ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► because i was adding items to follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► of bits and pieces and I realized most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► of them were information from the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► the main reason i was just people listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► to it is that it has information that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► you probably won't see elsewhere because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► you know i can fill and Craig around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► there and they didn't just say things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► that were already said that WC they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► didn't just say things that have already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► been said by Apple PR they provided new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► information and some but i thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► interesting and and you won't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► unless you listen to that or listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► these tidbits that I pulled out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► the first one is about an iOS 10 how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► can get rid of the Apple apps like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► you don't the stock app so that the tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► app or whatever you don't have to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► them in a folder anymore you can now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► delete them but they aren't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► deleted as many people speculated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► has been speculated for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► before the future even appeared they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► not actually removed from the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► even though when you delete them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► go to the store and then redownload them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► but as I think it was Craig said on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► suspiciously fast because i am actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► from your computer all the apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► saying oh yeah I'll redownload those for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► you and it just reveals them again a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► bunch of reasons were given for actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► leaving them on the system you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► delete I think the documents and data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► associated with it but you won't do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► interesting tidbit the other one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► relevant to a couple of stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► tweets that are going around about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► the current beta of the appstore add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► service where they'll you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► can try it out for free now and all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► do at this point is say yes I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► I don't think either the keywords and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► everything as well but anyway I looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► around and couldn't find anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► to do so I have to my at my appt in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► I think that just means that apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► I can shove it on top of search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► sometimes but I don't think I have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► yeah it's like the automated woman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► that if you don't want to pick your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► keywords in doing that stuff just we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► figure it out for you and so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► little controversies that spun up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► Twitter was a i think it was someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► from Tweetbot was saying they search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► tweet pot like the actual name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► application and the number-one hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► ad at the top of the other search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► results wasn't ad for twitterrific and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► it looks like all twitterrific has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► purchased the tweet but keyword but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► haven't because you can't even do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► and that brings up the whole topic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► we discussed before about buying someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► else's trademark as a keyword so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► have an application if you were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► the the maker of Twitter everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► wanted to buy the word the keyword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► Tweetbot could you do that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► addressed by Phil Schiller and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► doctor alive and he said that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► explicitly allowing this i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► a direct quote from the transmittances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► you can use someone else's brand in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► AdWords that you want as we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► about it that is more likely to benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► developer the idea is that if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► well-known brand if you like clash of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► clans or something you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► application doesn't time a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► similar game that doesn't sell a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► copies but if you make a game it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► similar to clash of clans and you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► to break into the market and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► right now you don't have any customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► maybe you by the clash of clans keyword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► that is the theory behind this and Phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► straightforward manner is you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► to get and it was surprising to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► people and we'll see how it plays out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► real life but from the perspective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► app developers especially after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► operation of on are uneven footing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► seems like a pretty scummy thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► to buy your competitors trademark so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► think a lot of people are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► do it because it seems rude and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► imagine the companies that would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► are exactly the companies that are big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► because they have no scruples and aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► run by an individual who is answerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► to their practices and they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► marketing department is measured on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► well they boost sales and so i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► I'm not entirely convinced that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► going to benefit the small developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► more than the big developer but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► see and again we'll talk directly about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► this issue when questioned about it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► yeah i think it there's a number of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► know issues and factors that go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► what exactly is a small developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► because I think who this will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► hurt most are people like twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► and Tweetbot and maybe overcast we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► kind of medium-sized developers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► like we're not big enough for like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► clash of clans people to build our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► keywords because who cares like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► we are nothing compared to what they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► and we're also not related but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► people who makes you know who make apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► are related to podcasting or related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► would very easily like bid on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► medium-sized apps in their category and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► on those keywords so like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► view myself as a small developer in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► grand scheme of things but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► people view / cast as a big gap in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► category relative to their app so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► you know I think when Phil says this he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► developers I don't think he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► about people like overcast and Tweetbot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► and twitterrific i think is talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► about like little things that most of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► have never heard of that happen to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► he's right that it would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► benefit them like you know the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► thing where like if you search for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► Twitter or whatever you know you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► couple of twitter apps and you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► whole bunch of what looks like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► garbage and spam and it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► photo rotation apps for twitter or stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► like that you know that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► it's gonna be that kind of app I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► that bet that could benefit from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► not medium-sized apps like to directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► the other problem here is well and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► that happens to the project one is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► we've had you know kind of a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► like down low key word spam issues in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► iTunes Connect since the beginning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► app store you know the apps have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► keyword field they can enter keywords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► into it for search and those have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► historically been used pretty pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► strongly for relevance in search more so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► than the description that is publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► shown the problem is these keywords are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► not publicly visible anywhere and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► there's kind of no downside for a nap to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► put its competitors or other large apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► names in those keywords and Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► rule against this but in practice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► enforceable against like large trademark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► like Disney you know so if you it'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► hard to put disney in your keywords and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► get accepted your app review but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► know if if another twitter app puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► Tweetbot it's keywords that is way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► likely to get in and to get to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► through and historically that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► seemingly very badly enforced by app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► review and Phil even kind of said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► something along the lines of like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► know we're going to be you know trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► to step that up you know something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► something to that degree and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► thirdly the problem is the name of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► word and use might search for the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► overcast to test this out and then my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► app shows up below some added you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► my app is not called overcast in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► store my app is called overcast colon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► podcast player and if you look at almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► every other instance of this of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► kind of like you know add doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► seems like the wrong thing like Tweetbot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► is not just named Tweetbot twitterrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► is not just named twitterrific so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► called like you know tweetbot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► twitter twitter fake twitter client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► stuff like that like we missed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► in the last couple years that we've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► keywords to our apt names because quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► simply it works better and the search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► has been horrible and it's been one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► the only ways you your gave up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► search improving like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► forget we will mango we will mangle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► name of our application because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► no other way to come up in the search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► results i mean i remember when traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► today years ago like it was a sad day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► because it just really ugly ass up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► name but the problem is people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► twitterrific would be 700 results down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► like the relevance was so bad even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► though it was a popular third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► twitter client and when someone searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► for Twitter it would be a good idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► show them the you know we'll reviewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► popular frequently updated Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► clients and instead it's like no Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► doesn't appear anywhere in your name or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► does but it's just a prefix and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► fact that twitterrific didn't show up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► the search results for Twitter into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► waited lowdown that's just said so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► would hope that as part of this effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► trademarks more often and stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► will also improve the search of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► point where you don't have to name angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► essentially anymore but we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► well the other thing is like I try with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► overcast I tried not name mangling but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► you know i launched overcast fairly late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► in the appstore relative to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► apps there was already an app named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► in fact even kind of the developer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► tried to buy it from him and he agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► and we had agreed to actually transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► this app to me just so I could like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► delete it and reuse the name but the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► use iCloud and so we couldn't transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► what why don't you just the one it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► came to rename it i think i somehow we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► just like I just kind of like we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► conversation so I admire it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► just through apathy but like there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► app called overcast it's it's a i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► believe the seller's name is Willis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► ingersoll something that it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► file transfer app for cloud services and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► the app store like even though the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1730">TS</a>]
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00:29:01 ◼ ► international titles so it sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1741">TS</a>]
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00:29:10 ◼ ► you know the combination of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► long-standing appstore problems results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► in this like mediocre situation we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► with titles with keywords after them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► along with you know the new ads not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► matching things exactly probably yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► uh let's talk about Apple photos and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► john sarkissian controller search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► yeah that was our my quality metric I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► call the original problem that I have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► that i couldn't find a picture of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► playstation 4 controller in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► photos application this is before iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► before WTC so I put all my photos into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► google photos and amazingly UFOs was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► able to find it just made me typing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► word controller and of course Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► announced similar foto search for iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► and mac OS Sierra and I speculated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► last show that it would not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► find controller by me typing controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► because Apple is not good at the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► thing and Google is so now having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► installed a actually i haven't installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► and many other people have installed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► have installed Michael CRP i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► installed iOS 10 many other people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► installed all these betas onto their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► iphones because they're very brave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► people and they have taken my exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► pictures of the controller they pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1822">TS</a>]
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00:30:25 ◼ ► their photo libraries and down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► search receive would find it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► doesn't find if you type controller but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► because Apple search APIs foto search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► works a little bit differently or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► least present a different UI then Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► fotosearch it does find it when you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► control stick or I think also gamepad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► and this brings up the the the UI that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► category results as if it puts things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► into buckets and indeed it does kan has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► that list out all of the buckets that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► has something like 4,000 buckets to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► things in there's a lot of stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► their dance palaces banana chairlifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► wait what's a dance palace is seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► i don't know i'm just reading some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► the keywords here or kid kiln got killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1868">TS</a>]
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00:31:17 ◼ ► I mean like it's got huge amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► things basically if you type a word that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► is not one of the words on this list it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► won't find it so as you type it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► showing you the words that begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► their contain these things so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1885">TS</a>]
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00:31:29 ◼ ► lead you to its notion of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1889">TS</a>]
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00:31:33 ◼ ► controller and you see control stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► you probably tap that one so good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► APPL photos so far on finding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► controller that I didn't think you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► ever find because that's that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► photo recognition because the controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► was upside down any searches pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► obscure category on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► fotosearch thinks because it couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► find birthday pics or babies or pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► of a couch so I don't know if they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► just had an indexed everything yet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► those things aren't among keywords or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► anything like that but we'll see as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► rules out but you can finally your dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► palaces if you have pictures of dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► palaces it will find that before it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► find your couch not quite sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► would come up for dance palace but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► I'm you know I have my entire photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► library in google photos and also my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► entire photo library and apples photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► so when these things release for real i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► can do a B test right next to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► with the exact same library and do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► little break off and when that happens i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► will definitely have some results but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► impressive than I thought it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► I'm looking up at a dance palaces our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/1951">TS</a>]
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00:34:09 ◼ ► news before we recorded the Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► Display the thing that I've been lusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► after since sep tember 2011 when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► brand-new which was the last time it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► updated anyway even that was a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► update over the LED display that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► discontinued sad times so at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► Apple does not sell an external display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► it did have a minor update where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► started shipping the magsafe 122 adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► in the box and write something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► so that they never actually gave it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► magsafe 2 like natively they just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► $8 Democrat the yeah excuse me I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► that adapters $10 thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► yeah so this is somewhat sad times if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► you fancied having a non-retina external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► display that's very pretty to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► and presumably for non-retina being very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► very pretty too to see what's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► screen as well however does this make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► think that maybe a retina displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► coming soon maybe with the GPU built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► I don't know I i would think so but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► seems odd to me that they would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► without having something to replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► and maybe they just don't sell enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► them maybe they can't get that screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► from the vendor anymore because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► terrible because the pixels of the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► of bullets i don't know like the apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► did you read apples official statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► that promotes yeah i was really short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► continuing the apple thunderbolt display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► will be available through apple.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► apple retail stores not authorized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► there are a number of great third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► options available for Mac users it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► kind of surprising that they even gave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► statement about it like that they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► they call the attention to it at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► mean usually when Apple discontinues a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► product like you know it's like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2154">TS</a>]
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00:35:57 ◼ ► kind of quietly removed from sale like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► it's I think it's usually a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2159">TS</a>]
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00:36:02 ◼ ► like they remove the old one and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► always the new one and this is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► bit weird but they're removing the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► one without anyone to replace it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► still put the odds that greater than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► oh yeah because it's such a gimme they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► have the screen it's in the five um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► quit staring at it for a long time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► put in a case you know just ship it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► but maybe that's not ready yet and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► it's part of the harbor announcement for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► whatever reason that it's like I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► I don't think that's a lot of wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► display so thousand-dollar monitor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► is not worth a thousand dollars at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► point like arguable you could argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► about it when i was first introduced but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► it is a really nice monitor and back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► before they were there were no options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► for 27 dresses when it was introduced in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► 2011 so it was good weather was four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► thousand dollars who knows but at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► point it's definitely not worth thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► dollar so they must not have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► selling a lot of them and as they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► you know while supplies last they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► to get rid of all his inventory maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► takes this long to get rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► inventory at the rate that they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► like maybe they have a lot of wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► displays hanging around and they did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► math and said if we want these flushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► out of the inventory about time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► introduce the 5k external display we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► need to just continue it now and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► let them sell out the rest of them it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► would also help by the way Apple if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► lower the price because that's a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► that you can sell things faster break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► i mean i-i think it's more likely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► like you know that the rumors were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► really clear and the timing makes a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► of sense that like the the new skylight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► based macbook pros were supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► out by now and I see that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► probably delayed because of various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► Intel issues like you like it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► heard like it every time you mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► usually hear from people who tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► that like the that sky like ships that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► were there would be appropriate for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► 15-inch were kind of out in the pc world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► and they actually had tons of problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► and like that they were it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► intimate like partly may be recalled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► them or something that was there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► some problems with them that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► the manufacturer having even after it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► shipped so it seems like there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► kind of unexpected Intel delay that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► caused the macbook pros to most likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► be delayed so it seems like if Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► gonna release a new 5k display would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► need sky like most likely to drive it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► that they were probably planning on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► releasing the 5k external display that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► succeeded this thunderbolt display at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► the same time as new macbook pros that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► we're all supposed to already be out by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► now so chances are they'd probably like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► you know gave the gave the order months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► ago to like stop taking these component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► orders stop making these things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► stop manufacturing these and then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► delay happened sometime in the meantime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► replacement product was supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► out by now and it might be done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► there's no computer that can drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► yet so they're not going to release a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► display with no computer that can drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► it so they kind of held the display for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► the macbook pro which got delayed so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► they just have well we already told the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► manufacturing line to stop making these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► and we're not gonna start back up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► because that's crazy so I'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► words it is weird hole in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► this like you know this visit these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► weird delays caused this this operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► whole to happen and it will make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► in a few months or whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► whenever the numerical approach come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► and by the way i think the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► they're gonna make this product i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► like maybe they're not gonna sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► external displays the reason I make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► is because the margins have to be pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► oh yeah probably to sell it for the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► but you know for the same kind of margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► thunderbolt display like that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► thousand-dollar monitor and age when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► could get monitors with sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► monitor the exact same panel in them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► less money if you knew the right to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► the right weirdly number del thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► whatever to buy like a good healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► margins on those and apple sells mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► laptops for people who by Max and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► with laptops often want a really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► external display like that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► want an external display that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► seventeen inches but if people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► external display they want a really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► one and so Apple should sell you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► because it's you know the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► cell battery cases for granted a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► there's this is a product that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► want and we can sell it at high margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► and they can look nice and Johnny iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► won't be upset by someone connecting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► disgusting looking dell monitor to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► beautiful macbook pro like all signs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► point towards Apple continuing to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► high-margin external monitor and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2404">TS</a>]
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00:42:23 ◼ ► two tidbits worth discussing one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► right so a PFS as we saw in the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► union is is like it will be a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► preview i think a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► confused by that like okay everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► developer preview right but now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► Sierra ships for real like the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► version of ships to customers a PFS will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► be included in Sierra as a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► preview as and you will get the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► release version of Sierra and part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► of that product will be provisional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► developer level support for a PFS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► what does that mean for you know our how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► far in the future is a PFS as they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► in the State of the Union a PFS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2578">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► developer preview this year and coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► in 2017 but what does that even mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► i slide in Section 701 have these words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► on it and we'll see how this rolls out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► PFS will be the default file system for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► all apple products in 2017 so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► pretty unequivocal except for the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► where it says 2017 so default fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► and profitable product means if you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► an Apple product in you know after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► whatever this point is it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► formatted with ntfs that includes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► iphones all ipads allmax everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► that's the implication of the statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► in 2017 could mean anything could be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► January for starting january first 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► it could mean starting to summer 31st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► 2017 there's a big range and when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► could happen but it is a player pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► clear statement of intent and a publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► available video from official apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► spokespeople that their goal is 20 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► not just that though you'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► format is a PFS for the default will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► or whatever nope every single product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► every single device that has a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► system across the entire product range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► at some point this is their goal anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► we'll see if they made it so that seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► to me like an ambitious goal but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► also kind of excited about it because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► a little 2017 is the year the filesystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► and I hope they take their time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► that's a little bit i'm a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► scared for them like that means like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► when the next iPhone comes out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► whatever the 2017 iphone all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► millions and millions of iphones all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► going to be picked formatted with ntfs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► really hope that goes well you know or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► suppose they could say okay well again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► if they go December 31st 2017 then next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► year's iphone will ship with hfs+ and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► then December 31st sergeant all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► products will be former that way so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► case anyone at Apple anyone who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► any of the Apple filesystem people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► listening right now consider that John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► syracuse your friend of mine has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► asking for a new file system for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► has been begging for a new file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► and as he just said you guys you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► Apple is said in 2017 i would just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► to point out that John Sarah's key stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► John circus birthday happens to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► very last day of 2017 if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► decided but you know maybe maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► would be the appropriate day to flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► switch and hit the big red button that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► would be a pretty solid birthday present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► a much better present I've ever gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► John just throwing it out there guys you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► yeah I think they're gonna go before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► that and my impression is that this date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► even though it seems ambitious to us is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► not really that ambitious from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► perspective of Apple who has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► working on the sauces for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► announced that they started working at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► last week right so the impression I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► from WTC is that 2017 is not rushing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► and they really got the whole year it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► like you know it's a relaxing expanse of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► time in which they can plan their roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► out of this new files and I really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► that's true because if so that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► how you want to do this the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► tidbit that was in this WC session which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► i'm sure everyone knows by now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► about all the Apple news sites is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► question of if you don't buy a new piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► which comes with a PFS that but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► how do you get a PFS like I can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► think about the perspective of a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► because i don't imagine they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► let people like a reformat their iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► like if you restore your iphone in 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► in the post a PFS world is reformatted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► with a PFS i doubt it but certainly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► straightforward situation the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► could do it is you backup your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► hard drive your race it you reformat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► is a PFS and you restore your hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► on you can do a time machine go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► solutions to doing this all those should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► be possible but in the 701 presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► wdc apple said that I have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► else in mind and that is in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► conversion of your volume format from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► hfs+ to a PFS so you've got a mac this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► file system comes out in 2017 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► officially released all the new hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► you by comes with that you're like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2818">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► want to try the new files and what do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► do well first of all i would advise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► to make a backup anyway and maybe two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► backups and maybe three backups but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► won't have to erase your disc you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► able to take your existing disc is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► formatted with hfs+ and do a thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► reboot and when it comes back it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► your data will still be there you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► have erased it and it will be in a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► volume and the the concept of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► freaking people i think i talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► the old al soft plus maker thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► would do the same conversion for from HS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► hfs+ in place and it was terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► because it's screwed up in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► this is the situation with ApS is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► little bit different and you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► actually be as terrified as you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► it actually is it if you've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► from I don't know what some ATP or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► use hypercritical the btrfs demo of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► similar type of in place conversion new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► it's the same type of deal because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► the way this volume format works it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► actually fairly safe so here's here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► the process and here's why it will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► probably destroy your data although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► so the first thing is going to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► obviously you can't be booted from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► volume to reformat the boot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► recovery partition or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► but everyone sits unmounted no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► changes are happening to this volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► you're going to convert so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► have to worry about chasing after some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► other changes that's not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► live like the one called filevault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► conversion where you can encrypt ask why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► using which is kind of magical this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► like unmounted alright next thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► it's going to write all the a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► metadata structures all the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► pointers to wear this file begin where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► is the den how many blocks are in it of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► what is the file call but all the dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► about the files going to write all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► metadata to the free space on the HFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► plus volume so you can only do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► conversion if you have enough free space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► to fit the metadata I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► much it's gonna take but you do need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► some free space and hopefully hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► just isn't filled to the brim anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► it's writing just to the to the free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► area so at any point during this process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► when it's writing always meditating when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► it's it's reading your hfs+ volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► finding out where everything is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► everything is called with all the dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► ownership all everything about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► files all the different for call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► extended afterwards all that stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► it's writing that metadata doubt in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► PFS format to the free space if at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► time something bad happens during this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► like someone yanked the plug in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► computer your hfs+ volume is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► because if you reboot into it it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► care what's in the free space like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► garbage in the free space it's free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► space on hfs+ I'm nothing is wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► this is the majority of the time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► spends is looking at all your things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► writing all the metadata for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► things on your file system when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► finally finished doing that all it needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► to do is this is one of the critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► section when things go wrong and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► critical section should be very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► short it's basically delete the HFS plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► superblock update the position type to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► be a PFS put the correct uuid in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► like you just have to do a switcheroo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► the front of the whole file systems ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► now you're a PFS and then you reboot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► that critical section when something can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► go wrong like they're halfway through i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► bet even that probably is fairly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► protected because i know i guess once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► you delete the eventual hfs+ abroad kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► of scared but anyway this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► small window of time and something can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► go wrong all the rest of time during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► conversion everything is fine and I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► you could probably restore the HS plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► superblock if you were clever enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► some recovery program could do that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► well because again you haven't touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► any of the actual data your actual files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► have not been modified hfs+ metadata is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► not been modified none of that stuff has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► where it was all you gotta do is change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► sort of that the thing that tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► where everything else in the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► is the superblock is metadata about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► whole file system that tells it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► how big the file system is and where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► the other metadata structures aren't all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► that stuff and by the way speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► the apsu idea the thing that tells it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► like what volume type this is one other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► tidbits that was sort of alluded to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► state of the union and I think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► seventh one thing is that if you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► aps IPS volume and you try to mount it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► unlike an older Mac operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► it'll say this disc is unreadable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► want to initialize it all that business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► but if you try to do that on El Capitan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► not because I can't have Secret support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► maybe FS but just because it know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► recognizes the uuid so won't offer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► erase it for you and that's I guess to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► try to prevent people from accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► erasing their newly converted disk when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► they don't realize that prompt asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► them to erase it was actually asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► them to erase the disc latest converted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► so that's that's kind of clever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► that's another secret thing you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► never have known of you you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► to be searching the el capitan binaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► for a uuid because you never find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► because it's all nonsense but anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► assume that I will do this in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► conversion again after making many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► backups but both in theory and practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► this conversion method of writing new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► metadata structures to free space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► pointing at the data in where it already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► exists is fairly well-established not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► something crazy that we came up with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► own and so I'm pretty confident that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► this will actually work and it will seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► that's pretty high praise I am very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► why not AFS oh yeah so that's a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► I asked some of the filesystem people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► WBC and it says we speculate like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► can't use AFS because that's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► Andrew filesystem and you go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► every letter in the alphabet a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► every combination of two letters either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► taken or nonsensical a PFS is not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► as an acronym but it's probably better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► than AFS it's probably better than ifs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► which i think is also already taken lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► of cool letters like CFS and XFS are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► already taken my complaint was why isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► it a cool name why isn't it like forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► I'm gonna give it whatever four-letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► three or four little letter you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► why isn't it have a cool name like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► don't know like thunder FS swiftor you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► know grand central dispatch or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► like with the trains yeah like you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► up with a cool marketing name for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► the upshot seems to be that file systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► are not something that most users know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► about certainly on iphones no one knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► what the file system isn't even imax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► people don't know the only time people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► are likely to encounter is if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► a Mac and you go to disk utility or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► something you're trying to format in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► your disk or like you get info on it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► can you seem to get info window but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► especially when you format your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► says I know how do you want to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► volume format you want to use for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► disc and disk utility I think and do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► bunch of different formats or even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► know that OS 10 can I was ten whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► that operating system is called ya Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► OS can mount a lot of the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► come out like fat TX pad and like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► these weird need all the all the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► CD file systems and stuff sometimes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► you present the user with this popup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► menu of like who are you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► volume for what you want to make this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► what going forward is this they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► know what all those things mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► don't know what hfs+ means they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► know what Apple extended journaled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► whatever case they don't know what those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► things being at all so they go the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► of a PFS and it's a reasonable goal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► to put an entry on that list that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► absolutely clear that that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► that they want and and so if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► pop-up menu and your formatting a disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► and you don't know what the hell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► want to pick and you see one called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► apple file system you can pick that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► was like all right this is an apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► see a logo in front of me there's one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► I guess I want Apple filesystem and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► know what that'll be the right answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► you do want Apple filesystem you do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► want you know Apple extended journaled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► whatever you want Apple file system so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► as boring as it maybe it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► from a user perspective that a user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► should never have to see this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► when they do see if they have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► what all those weird names mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► just want to pick them on this Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► sauces but don't you think there might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► be like a problem well that one has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► this one sounds deluxe like it the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► words like it sound like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► deluxe cool option i guess maybe I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► the what it whatever journaling means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► that's like journaling that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► presence of the prosumer problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► maybe those people you know their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► worst enemy but regular people are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► gonna pick the safest one they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► gonna say maybe I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3298">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► journal mean but I want to maybe better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► what about extended that's better what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► about exfat I like balances gotta XCX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► and I think they're just gonna pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► apple blossom anyway it's a boring name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► but it's certainly a straightforward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► name and it is a forward-looking name in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► that Apple feels like yes this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► Apple file system now 30 years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► on this is old and busted they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► have a problem because what he called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► the next one but for now Apple file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► system works and because they can't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► a FS a PFS is the awkward abbreviation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► for Apple filesystem honest question do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► you honestly think that when this file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► we will still even have the option to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► format our own partitions they look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► iOS iOS just give us any options you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► still going to have to read the aps best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► formatted volumes I don't know you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► question is whether the mac will still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► be around them because you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► you don't see volumes on iPads and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► TV or the watch or iPhones so we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► but maybe they're out i mean at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► point I think we're lucky that we even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► still have disk utility I mean barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► but i think we get we get all I I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► surprised if if we still have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► ability to format disk the way we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► to in front position we want to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► yeah well it could be if the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► continues to to be pushed towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► geeky side of things then they're free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► to do whatever they want like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► grand central dispatch is the marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► name but live dispatch is the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► separation between the names they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► present in the marketing and the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► names the programmers know them by so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► finally when it in 30 years when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► opera windows file system is outdated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► and being replaced by the next file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► system can we get together when you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► like what 7271 at that point and and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► a podcast then with with development by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► oh they have been they will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► have the internet there and microphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► I like throwing yet another reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► you guys don't get I knew that if anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► have to know as a reference but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► partial credit yeah I'll take it alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► do you want to start running through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► some of the features do you want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► prompt this how would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► proceed sir on this part i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► talk a little bit about file names but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► thought this would be a good opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► to find out how much you guys know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► unicode not nearly enough i've read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► God whose at the school ski getting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► unicode string handling and I and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► already forgotten all of it that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► Marco you come across this at all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► probably don't because i'm a string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► takes care of it for you and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► representation as you know what about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► PHP land you deal with and stuff when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► you do web things dealing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► Unicode and text and everything I know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► alright well so this will be new casing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► may be new to some people but I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► have to go over a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► basics before explain what the deal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► whatever talk about this in context of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► PFS because because files have names and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► your directories have names right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► when you talk about a file path which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► uses and shop and Mac operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► whereby cells that entire thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► presented as a string and certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► filenames represented in strings and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► would think this is a straightforward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► thing like that nobody thinks about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► of course like files have names like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► that's fine but names are strings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► strings are fiendishly complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► actually matters from the perspective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► the file system because it has to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► lot of stuff with strings so the i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► the easiest way for people to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► this is that unicode is a is a standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► for defining all the different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► that go into making a string and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► in unicode identified by code points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► that have numbers and this the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► alright they start start long up really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► really high guy says lots and lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► things that you can put into strings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► languages in the United States and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► other thing to understand is that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► you write something out to disk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3538">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► stored in memory or whatever we tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► we have a day lettering system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► america and the sort of Western world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► called a ski that defined a very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► number of numbers that correspond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► things that can be in a string and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► each one of them fit into a single bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► so all you know a through z 1 through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► zero through nine all the punctuation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► characters or whatever they all fit into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► one bites is 255 possible combinations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► and everybody was happy to realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► there are other characters and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► so when I came up with unicode they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► tried to be nice and give a ski all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► same numbers that it always had for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► compatibility reasons but they just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► going from there and a certain point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► get up two numbers unicode code points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► that are way higher than 255 and when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► comes time for you to write them to disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► what do you do with those you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► write them out as the big numbers in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► series of bytes because the first bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► of the number might look like a cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► of the number might look like a cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► put a letter P or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► because it's the same you know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► mean so they have come up with a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► of encoding systems where when you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► this big number that does not fit into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► single bite and you can't right the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► you would write that number out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► sequence of bytes we need some way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► encode these things one of the ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► encode is instead of writing one code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► point every bite right one co point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► every 32 bits you have a huge space for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► each one's your capital letter A instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► of taking up a single bite takes up what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► yeah it bites for but ya gotta go fa x 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► i'll get in a second anyway but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► would be incredibly wasteful because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► all of a sudden if you're writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► something an ascii text it would take up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► four times as much room that's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► there's also we could do it in 16 can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► doing 16 well we actually have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► unicode code points that fit into 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► bits but I think for a while maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► all fit in I think I string uses this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► encoding called utf-16 internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► yeah i believe i believe the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► version of unicode what that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► all fit in and then you know once we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► started realizing oh there's other parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► of the world and like ancient scripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► and different combining things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► there's all sorts of new stuff now don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► forget emoji yet that all came later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► yeah that's not great either but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► takes a lot of room and the one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► been most common use these days is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► called utf-8 which is a pretty clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► encoding scheme where a ski gets to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► exactly the way it normally is like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► you know one bite one bite for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► character and all the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► bigger they have these unique sequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► of multiple bites you can I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► know two bites three bites four bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► that even up to five bites all these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► so that all the leading bites are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► are not mistaken for plain old ascii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► characters or whatever and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► most common encoding use and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► relevant because when you create a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► in first of all people don't want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► a file system where you can only create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► problems and is key because that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► languages other than English and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► annoying for English speakers because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► had curly quotes and stuff but you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► to write this you need to have the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► in memory and you needed to write it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► representation and that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► encoding is doing unicode as they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► these unicode code points these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► numbers possibly very large numbers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► write them out in a series of bytes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► way according to some standard right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► additional complication here in unicode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► I've been trying to save this and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► to say thing in other words instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► saying character or letter because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► way more complicated than that so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► unicode component might be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► capital letter A and that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► that everyone understands but a unicode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► code point might also be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► called combining acute accent that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► this unicode point follows another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► it combines to make what looks like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► thing on your screen so if you did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► lowercase letter e plain old ascii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► lowercase letter e followed by unicode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► code point 301 which by the way is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► number bigger than 255 called combining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► an acute accent you would get the e with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► little line pointing up into the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► on top of it the acute accent so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► write the word cafe CAF e combining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► acute accent you get the word cafe with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► the e with the little thing over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► right but you can write that same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► cafe CAF and then he was a little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► over in a different way you write CAF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► just like a ski and then you can include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► unicode code point e9 that's an index [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► latin small letter e with a cute you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► look at another Road you know has two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► ways for you to write something looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► the same on the page and i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► what the original motivation so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► probably because you could use combining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► characters and more flexible ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► including every possible combination but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► sometimes combinations our community to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► include this this comes with this adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► yet another wrinkle which is you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► write the same thing in unicode in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► multiple different sequences of code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► points that's a problem for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► like filesystem it's not a problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► like if you're if you're writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► report or printing a page or even making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► a webpage but it's a problem for file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► system so we just found something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► write file names out to disk like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► store them in the metadata somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► in general filesystems don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► quote-unquote same name in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► place ignoring filename extensions which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► just make this mess but if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► make a file called cafe and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► want to make another file called cafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► the existing in the same folder staring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► you in the face like how can these files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► via they both have the same exact name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► but if you were to merely write out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► encoded bites for this thing whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► it's utf-32 utf-8 utf-16 whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► encoding format awesome chooses if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► just write them out at like that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► application could make CAF latin small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► battery with a cute and one application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► can make CFE combining acute accent as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► far as the possum is concerned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► sequence of bytes of these files is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► different so when it dips them it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► open the file with this name i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► make this file but when you open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► folder you can see two files called cafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► and that is bad and i haven't even got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► into case sensitivity because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► case-insensitive situation they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► fastest has the same problem is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► already a file with this name yes or no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► and that's where you would factor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► okay well as their file with this name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► lowercase you know ignoring case but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► ignoring that entirely just for plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► multiple ways you can write the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► word and unicode handles that by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► system that calls for a normalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► different normalized forms of unicode as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► a bunch of different forms will link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► them in the show note what basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► comes down to is should we try to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► apart every character into its smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► possible pieces decompose them you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► to have the lowercase C and then they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► be combining accent or should we pride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► try to compose them all into their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► canonical form by squishing the e with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► the combining accent into the latin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► small letter e with the cute or should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► we do different combinations of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► different normalized forms the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► well i was gonna say the processing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► to pick one of these but it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► could it could just the you know do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► whatever bites you give me and I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► now just put them in the file system or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► it could pick one of these normalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► forms you pick a normalized form then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► doesn't matter what the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► gives you it will always be canonicalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► when it goes to the file system so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► is what hfs+ does but of course hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► being a very old tile system does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► use any of the unicode normalized forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► it uses a variant of those normalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► form that has changed in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► versions of the operating system if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► look at a tech note 1150 from apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► which apparently is not no longer online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► so we'll link to like another very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► love it it uses kind of decomposed form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► except for a whole bunch of Rangers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► it changes to be compatible like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► Greek encoding and it excludes a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► of things that it's really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► confusing but anyway hfs+ if you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► make two files called cafe and I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► of course a little prescrip to test this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► out and you try these two different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► the with a combining accent and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► e with a little hat already combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► doesn't matter what you write the over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► the age of fossils like oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► totally made that file for you but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► you read that file back in and look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► the file name it will have changed it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► the the normalized form the HFS plus 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► so you will not make two separate files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► if you try to make one file with that 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► name one follows the other name you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► just override the same file twice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► that like hfs+ does not take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► something to eat first or rather the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► driver for us plus those to be compliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► with the filesystem right this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► the reasons that a lot of units marriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► stuff and i think last torvalds had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► big rant about it but I couldn't find on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► the internet have complained about hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► I gave you the file name is it supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► to be this and you said no i totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► made that file for you and then later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► when i try to read that final look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► its name it's not what I told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► and that's bad for things like get or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► you know linux for that matter other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► things the old files they don't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► that to happen that the the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► sequence of bytes that makes up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► files named make that file and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► later when i read that file I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► look at its name and better be that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► a better look it up with that name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► the name that comes on the disk better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► with the bites i gave you and your dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► doesn't your father is broken but as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► hopefully explain if you do that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► very easy for applications to make names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► that look exactly the same in the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► interface cafe & cafe like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► indistinguishable they're exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► same pixel for pixel because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► see the bites that make up the unicode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► string you shouldn't care about them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► to users to be able to make the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► file with the same name with apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► the same name that seems like a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► seems like something should happen which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► cafe file is the one that I want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► both have the same name I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► so you can't do that and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► apple doesn't do that a PFS now has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► what should a PFS do filename should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► but not because that's got years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► years of baggage floating around in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► from the fact that existed before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► unicode I think you're leaving or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► just came out when you recover was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► young I think hfs+ hsps unicode but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► hfs+ anyway doing what a dress plus does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► would be best for compatibility but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► would also be slightly crazy i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► think Apple wants to maintain their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► weird mapping tables forever with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► different uh you know non-standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► normalize forms should it do what many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► processes do which is I take no position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► on file names that's not my concern you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► gave me a sequence of bytes and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► the file name i will write that out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► the filesystem later when you read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► you will get back that sequence of bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► I don't know what sequence of bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► means could mean anything i have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► what that stuff is but anyway here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► my understanding is that that's what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► PFS does today so if you run my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► prescription a PFS you can make two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► files that apparently are both named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► cafe but they're actually different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► sequences of bytes because one uses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► combining acute accent the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► uses the eve with a little accident he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► composed on it and by the way i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► think it might be no anyway when you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► you were to do this when i did in perl i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► had to choose how to encode the filename [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► and I chose utf-8 I think you can't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► the API well i'm using / also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► different rules about that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► representation all right you can't give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► it a sequence of bytes for your string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► and use unicode code pointy nine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► unicode code point 301 because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► don't fit in a bite so you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► figure out a way to put them in a bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► and that's what unicode encoding czar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► and so I picked utf-8 if I'd given at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► utf-16 i'm assuming you have stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► utf-16 and give me back utf-16 and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► for all the other different coding think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► so far as i can tell a PFS is a bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► bytes that means its case sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► because bag of bytes means you gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► these bites here these bites and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► another file comes along and wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► write cafe with a lowercase C instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► a capital C 2 different sequence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► bytes file system says no profile that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► I think this will i don't know i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► think this is the official position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► you can't even boot from it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► this is going to be looking for in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► it's and the rest 2017 what will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► policy and a PFS will they add case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► sensitivity once you decide that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► insensitivity you have to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► decisions at the very least you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► make decisions about encoding because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► you can't compare case into things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► someone writes 15 min utf-16 and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► following utf-8 something in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► system has to understand that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► do complete comparisons with strings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► encoded in different ways or maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► just straightforwardly compared as if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► know it doesn't make sense it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► awareness of the encode right so if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► ever want to make a case insensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► version of a PFS they need to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► here's how file names are encoded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► then beyond that they have to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► decision about normalization do we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► normalization at all if you don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► normalization you can get into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► weird situations where you have files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► with apparently the same name you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► handle this all at the framework level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► and little cocoa and all and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► whatever higher-level framework you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► I don't know if that's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► will do and it's not i think this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► a minor decision because what you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► to do here has implications that ripple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► down through history as we saw with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► HFS plus 1 after you make his decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► it's not easy to change it i suppose you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► could go with case-sensitive now a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► case insensitive later but kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► the opposite of what HFS did going with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► case-insensitive from the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► making a sensitive variant but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► this I think is one of to me the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► important decisions that has not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► been made for a PFS and I since it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► probably happen before next year's wrec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► the only way we'll be able to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► whether it's made is looking at the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► PFS documentation online and continuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► to run tiny test programs from languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► other than apples frameworks to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► does the file system except I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► what the rights that this position I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► don't have a particular position here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► only I just want them to make a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► and for it to be a reasonable one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► that's what I was about to ask is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► you don't necessarily have a preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► between normalised and not normalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► you just want to see that there is a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► declared statement as to how it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► yeah and like a philosophical some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► of philosophical statement of support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► because in many respects making the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► system itself just be bag of bytes which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► is you gave me by store them is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► straightforward is the easiest to test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► it is the simplest it's the fastest you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► can do really fast comparisons with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► performance perspective of all if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► were like say on the filesystem team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► you want to make it really fast file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► system but from a user's perspective it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► doesn't doesn't solve your problems it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► doesn't solve user problems that hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► does i don't know if you can solve it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► all at the framework level I'm have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► think that you can't really at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► framework level entirely because i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► like there's so many different ways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► so many different programs that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► write files to disc and not all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► go through your frameworks alright I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► its it's madness to have fought some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► filenames utf-16 some vile names utf8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► some normalized some did normalize some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► weird mix I that seems untenable to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► from just the basic perspective of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► do i correctly check whether a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► exists the filename blah how do i check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► whether that exists it's like well how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► many different ways can you write this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► kit you know the only way i can check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► with this because the processing knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► nothing about encoding I say hey process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► and you have a filename cafe and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► process was like all right well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► sequence of bytes you want me to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► for nope I don't have one that sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► of bytes maybe think is there another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► way that I cafe get right in utf-32 with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► sequence of bytes the files inside nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► don't have that sequence of bytes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► applications like hmm maybe didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► utf-16 with latin small letter with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► cute on it like that that's untenable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► right and so as scary as it is for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► file system to make decisions about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► because they're just they're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► difficult to to change after the fact if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4497">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► it doesn't then every file system API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► needs to either be incredibly thorough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► potentially create files with apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► the same name from the users perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► and I think that's not healthy either so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► I don't know it could be that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► care about any guys except for the cocoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► ones we don't care what people going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► straight through the capi is running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► python scripts or whatever we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► all we care about is that is the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► get and UI kit and then you could have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► I don't know but but I i can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► arguments on either side of it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► fact that nothing has been said so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► in the fact that it just does Bagga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► anything about that was essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► position just tells me they didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► to that part yet because i think if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► if they had got to it would have been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► that presentation like the presentations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► test your application on a PFS they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► tell them the tested based on the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► sensitive every part and that makes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► sense because that Apple has shipped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► case sensitive file system for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► time and a lot of applications break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► okay sensitive also seems like Adobe's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► applications and Microsoft applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► all apps that were created in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4561">TS</a>]
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01:23:18 ◼ ► validate his secrets of utf-8 character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► yeah the rules aren't that complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► like no you mean you don't even have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► corresponds to like a code defined code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► pointing device and you can't and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► more difficult to do certainly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► hardware not just like bit masking yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► but anyway I'm I suspect that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► what they'll end up being the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► sensitivity i think it's still weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► issue because I think users of use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► computers even just on iOS where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► to write file name but certainly on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► mac having two files called like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► know like you know xmas and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► write a file called xmas but you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► to capitalize the X and you end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► two files and you know you thought your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► writing the previous one I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► they just case insensitivity i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► more like how how regular people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► programmers that computers work for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► so I'm sure that it would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► popular with programmers but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► maybe not because like i said the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► that there are still mac applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► that only work on case-insensitive file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► systems due to eminently fixable errors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► in their source code it's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► never going to change unless you force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► I don't know Casey have opinions yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► you know I think that of all the places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► you want to have the Wild West the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► system is not it and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► forcing an encoding makes sense i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► mostly that that users expect case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► insensitivity but i don't know i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► what with the internet running on unix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► for the most part in URLs generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► being case-sensitive I think that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► are starting to become more comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► so if i had a vote I would say enforce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► something like utf-8 if you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► something that's garbage or not utf-8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► encoded barf all over it and then do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► that's my vote I don't think anyone's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► favor of normalization but like i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► it you end up a weird situation so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► would if I was suspected they if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► don't touch normalization of the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► system level then they do it all the API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► level but then it's just it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► easy to make fairly absurd situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► for life but you could have picked some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► word or phrase that has a huge number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► possible combinations like in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► language of the uses accents on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► characters and just you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► number of possible permutations goes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► pretty quickly as you had the accented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► characters then you make a folder full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► of literally hundreds of files that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► appear to have exactly the same name in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► the finder something you can't do hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► and something that you shouldn't be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► but we'll be able to do with the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► system even if it picking encoding but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► they don't pick a normalization so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► that's why I'm thinking about that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► straightforward problem is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► obvious answer that will clearly apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► will do this there is no easy answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► I never thought we talked this long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► about the detailed implementation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► dealing with file names in the files as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► well it's more just about unicode even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► you know you and I both know that having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► dealt with it but i can tell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► first five times I that with unicode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► still didn't understand only have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► six-time you know like it I if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► never heard anything about unicode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► hearing what i just said about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► the code points normalization is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► going to sink in but it's it's weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► if you don't know about it and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► about it when dealing with strings you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► will eventually be sad no I mean dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► with unicode in my experience is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► like parenting in that the more you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► explore more experience you get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► area the more you realize that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► just always be wrong and there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► Wow well I mean there's one thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► just understanding the standards which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► think is difficult enough and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► you understand the standards then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► realize no matter what I pick up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► are downsides and then then the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► said realization is that you realize all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► the play if your program you realize all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► the places in your program or Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► coming in without the encoding specified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► you're like I don't I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► what the right thing to do is what who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► how is this going to be encoded this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► just bites coming across some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► you know reading out of a disk file on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► disk are coming across the network and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► then you end up like dribbling out words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► and asking all of your input sources hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► can you tell me what encoding using and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► they say encoding what I didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► you basically have an intractable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► problem where it especially we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► accepting input from the wider world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► that it doesn't come tagged along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► what encoding it is and you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► how to make sense of unless you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► encoding so you kind of have to you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► detect the encoding through a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► heuristics or i can guess or i can try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► to enforce downstream that you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► only give it to me in this encoding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► then you find out how many people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► actually sending you things that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► conform or all of a sudden you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► bunch of utf-16 or shift just and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► have this terrible text terrible we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► should communicate through a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► ones and zeros it'd be much easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► wow I've never I've never heard shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► just discussing a podcast i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► oh yeah but my first big normalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► project was like what i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► killed for utf-8 i think that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► bet it was it before unicode thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► yeah no I mean it's not like I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► mostly avoided having to deal with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► issues over time with my various web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► server because like you're right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► like hidden in native apps you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► generally have to deal too much with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► this on the web you deal with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► time and the easiest thing on the web is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► to just make all your pages serve utf-8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► servicer themselves as utf-8 that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► call browser's default to sending utf-8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► informs only the modern world will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► your browser's do that in the old world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► you could do whatever you want with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► web pages but people in Japan we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► different encoding and it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► if you put a utf-8 is the you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► that was great when browser just finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► started to honor the encoding of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► yeah but that I mean that was most of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► career has been after that mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► when we were building tumblr and 2006 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► that was the case so it's it's been ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► but and then the only the only time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► really had to think about unicode on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► web stuff recently is when emoji came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► around and I had to alter all my mysql [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► tables to be the utf-8 mp4 character set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► which is annoying but you know after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► that it was a fine my single made some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► some unicode mistakes that the best part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► of the web and encoding is even coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► to the case sensitivity is that the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► URL that we increasingly don't see our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► address bar the hostname part is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► case-sensitive whatever you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► means the encoding for URLs yeah is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► think it is basically limited to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► but this way you can encode unicode code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► points with the special escape sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► II think not in the hostname there is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► the rest of the URL God knows what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► going on there in the honey there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► special international demand extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► thing but that has a bunch of security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► problems actually right of course and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► then and then like you said for the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► of the URL like it's it's kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► wild west and it's the worst that half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► of the string is case sensitive and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► of it isn't again whatever the hell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► urls are still a problem that it in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► respect the body of your HTML documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► is is blessedly normalized at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► because like you said most modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► browsers honor the encoding anyway Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► alright well speaking of things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► how about a data integrity yeah when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► touching this last time this is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► feature i wanted my BFS that it did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► deliver and we're speculating about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► that might be or if it really was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► case data integrity just the quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► review is basically the idea that if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► program writes some data to disk later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► reads the data back the data that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► originally wrote should be the data that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► it gets back and that could be a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► later a year later ten years later if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► that's not the case because hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► fallible you would like the file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► hey you asked for these bites but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► turns out that since last time since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► they were written they have been screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► up so restore from backup or solve this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► problem of ZFS and some other file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► systems have a way to make multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► redundant copies of the same data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► when they detect this area they can fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► it because they have a good copy bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► copy that will just ignore the bad copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► use the good copy and write another copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► of the good one or whatever all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► stuff is expensive because it means you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► have to write out check someone's with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► all of your data and you have to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► do end and check some so that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► is sure yet but i'm sending you this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► here's the checksum yep I got that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► here's the checksum alright disc making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► sure everything is all good you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► that's what that's a feature of CFS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► very important and wonderful feature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► ZFS but it has a cost associated with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► computing always check sums and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► dependency because you can't really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► done riding the data until you've also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► made sure all the data was written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► correctly and then also read written the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► check so make sure that you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► there's lots of dependencies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► inherent in that and mostly I wanted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► for the the case of bit rod eyes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► over long periods of time I write out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► family's photos to disk and make backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► that disk that I push that up the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► plays and it's on time machine i'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► super duper clones and if some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► errors in the hardware all i'm doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► copying those now corrupted bits over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► and over and over again over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► two different backups you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► incremental backups don't go on forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► there's a window of time that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► before they'll fit on the disc in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► same thing with backblaze they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► think they keep your back forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► ever and ever every different version so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► propagating the corruption over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► years until 20 years later we try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► look at some baby picture your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► baby picture is all messed up and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► scrambled and JP has a bunch of bits wet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► that's what I'm trying to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► against and a PFS does not provide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► feature does not have the option to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► write out checks comes with all of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► file data now a BFS is a flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► filesystem intentionally designed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► extensible without breaking backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► this feature can see would be added in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► hell it could be added before 2017 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► got a whole year right but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► there right now and that's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► disappointing it does right check sums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► for metadata metadata is like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► what the files name is here's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► dates the ownership the permissions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► here's where each individual piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► this file data is on a disk so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► where to go get it keeps saying desk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► you know that me and it writes checks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► this for metadata but I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► good reason to do that mostly because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► lot of this file system like many others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► tries to doesn't do always consistent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► disk representation but it comes close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► it it wants to know did I finish this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► operation so if someone yanked the plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► your computer and it was in the riddle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► middle of writing a file what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► to happen when you reboot is either the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► entire files there are none of the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► there and check some metadata could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► conceivably help with that because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► you're gonna do is you're gonna write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► the data and write the metadata but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► debt metadata is not complete like it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► not we didn't finish if we're not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► then you just ignore all that it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► invalid in the file basically isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► there you have a consistent filesystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► don't worry about that partially written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► file that partially written method or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► whatever and how do you tell whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► metadata is partially written while all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► your metadata as check sums when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► looking at that piece of metadata you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► can look at it and do the checksum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► metadata and if it does it's completed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► if it doesn't you know you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► journaling and stuff but the aps is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► used darling journaling is relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► expensive way to do the same thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► you sort of write out what you plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► do then you do it and you write out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► and how it can tell whether you finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► the operation or not I metadata is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► general more important the data because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► if you screw up the metadata you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► lose your entire disk like screwing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► the metadata for an entire directory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► invisible whatever method is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► small and check sums are really fast on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► it there's no real performance it so abs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► does do check sums with metadata does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► not do it with data this is a topic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► came up a lot of WC talking to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► people who had up the other file system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► nerds who would also talked to people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► the possum team about a PFS and oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► think I think this was a very popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► feature suggestion hey will be great if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► API has had an interview or the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► why doesn't a PFS have data integrity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► and a lot of the the reasons are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► potentially expensive one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► that I heard was that ssds do their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► check something internally which is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► they do because they have to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► the pretty startlingly unreliable nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► of flash storage you know all sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► memory chips are inherently at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► bottom tiny little analog devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► are a little bit scary when you find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► how they work and SSDs and are different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► ssds have over-provisioning where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► have many more memory cells and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► going to use and is actually a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► little operating system in there that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► trying to distribute all this stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► all the storage and they wear out if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► complicated but they do copious not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► check sums but also error-correcting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► code so if they find a bit flip because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► of some analog or whatever they can fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► it before returning the data so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► one of their stopgaps is like a spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► this don't do that so much but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► going out and ssds do the checksums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► that's not really a great solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► because there are other places they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► convenient errors can be introduced like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► in other hardware other than the SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► itself like the bus and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► since Apple controls the entire chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► they control the bus that control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► ssds in theory especially as they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► max don't don't make max anymore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► you can swap lots of different hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► drives into and everything that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► little bit better off the rails but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► doesn't really help with bit rot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► all my family photos to one terabyte SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► they get their successfully and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► five years later I have no idea if those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► flip the file system can tell because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► doesn't know what it originally written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► all I can really do is read them and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► here's what I've got on disk is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► beats the hell out of me i don't know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► I've been thinking about possible other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► solutions of Apple never builds in data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► integrity a PFS and one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► something that I think there's an hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► userspace solution II just scan all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► files checks on them write the check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► from someplace else and then if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► goes wrong with either the checksum or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► the data itself the two won't match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► anymore and you will know that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► files corrupted and you can restore from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► backup so it's sort of like userspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► manual process of scanning all the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► that you care about and writing out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► check sums and periodically scanning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► them all again and make sure the check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► comes all matching about anything don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► presumably good backup you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► basically in protecting instead wrought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► periodically hoping that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► propagate whatever corruption has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► appeared in to all of your incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► backups you will know about the error in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► enough time to restore from your backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► solution think about the name of the HFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► plus program that does that clusters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► impression anyway i'll try to look up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► for the show notes the course if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► you're a programmer and you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► this problem for more than a few seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► you realize that there is a big race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► condition here where if you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► read a file and check some it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► write out that checksum what if between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► the time that you read that file and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► time you wrote the check something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► what if it modified while you were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► the middle of reading it your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► checks on your file one match and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► will appear as if corruption occurred so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► you can do a thing where you say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► I can't calculate check something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► write the check some after at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► checksum I'll read the file again and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► it doesn't have to check some I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► assume it's corrupt i'll just try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► it again you just racing yourself over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► and over again until you get a matching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► set about how finally I got a matching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► set but you're not solving the race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► condition that way it's essentially a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► intractable race condition without help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► from some other part of the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► without help for example a way to say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► want to stop anything else in the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► for writing to this file and in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► I ways to do it provide advisory locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► but it's very difficult to stop anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► else from right into the system writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► luckily both hfs+ and I assume a PFS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► include a feature that can help with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► this I don't know why i was a tad hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► but it's been there for a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► now i think and it is what is it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► its called the the right generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► counter you can get this on any file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► today on your mac and hfs+ of you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► get our list it's called the constant in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► the ghetto ass man pages add our common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► documentation nonzero monotonically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► increasing generation count for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► file system objects for all classes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► it's basically a number that goes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► anytime anything happens to a file all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► you gotta do is store both the checksum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► and the generation count and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► will know this checksum is for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► generation counter the file and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► anything in the entire system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► anything that file that number will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► up and you will know your checksum is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► invalid so in the future when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► checking for corruption you won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► confused as I don't know I've detected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► corruption because you will know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► yet the checksum doesn't match the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► generation count number five and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► file is currently on generation account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► number seven so it's time for Yuri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► computer check some sodas a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► guaranteed way for you to match up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► checks on the generation count and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► content of the file and that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► handy and it makes me think that cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► Marco here like i should write my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► mac program which is a file that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► does these checks out and use it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► I mean I'm gonna say i could write in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► pearl but I totally could write in pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► but now like an actual back from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► it's really straightforward the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► real problem is where you write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► check sums you could write them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► extended attributes that seems kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► antisocial to me you could write into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► separate database better be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► handle millions of things but anyway i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► actually thinking about this program a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► simple program that you pointed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► subdirectory that doesn't check sums for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► empirically scrubs it and tells you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► anything has a gun corrupt i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► local sequel database would be a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► good way to do that you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► because you have never inserted more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► than a million rows in a sequel database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► i have and i can tell you it falls over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► badly and even likes a simple because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► would just be like you know a string key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► knows how you represent the file name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► but however you interpret the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► string key and check so you do the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► name but you can do that you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► unique ID for the file with this another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► thing you can get from hfs+ right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► basically start like two integers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► yeah it doesn't it doesn't do well try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► inserting maybe maybe I never tried with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► parents have always had some string in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► there but once you get into the millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► the insert start slowing way way way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► down i know that i knows from experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► can you provide a custom value to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► row ID how to get rid of the sequence ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► get rid of one integer if you can go if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► you can provide a customer ID the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► then each Road only have effectively one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► yeah I don't know why it's like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► it's a bit maybe I had indexes on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► a ride I did it for like a data that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► like a couple of integers in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► strings and I left the you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► row ID and in the millions disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► unmute becomes unusable like it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► in tens of thousands it's okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► hundreds of thousands but once you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► into millions and this was maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► three years ago so many things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► improved but anyway there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► impossibility so I'm saying there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► starting to peel is that will be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► whatever it's worth I i'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► there's some kind of optimization where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► if you i think if you provide some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► of like bigint column instead of the row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► idea i think it will use that as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► right here so there's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► that I I application be sure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► there's a lot of innovation sequel I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► you know it took to make it sort of less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► safe but faster but you're doing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► extended attributes would be entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► straightforward but i'm not sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► the best solution especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6178">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► don't have you have only read permission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► to the files you can't write extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► attributes to them anyway have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► about because extended at that address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► is totally the way to do a file time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► machine by the way does keep checksums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► with all those files and has for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► years I forget where it stores and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► probably an extended attributes but who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► knows but anyway in time machine it owns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► the entire area that it's writing too so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► does not to worry about permissions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► issues but anybody could be a limitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► of the program hey if it can't check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► some a bunch of files always tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► when it's done yeah you pointed me this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► directory and it turns out they were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► know seven thousand files that i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► not check some because I can't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► them i don't know I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► about it a little bit is the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► any absence of file systems support for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► solution and since it's technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► possible it's technically possible hfs+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► was like i said this feature this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► generation right counters is on hfs+ now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► it's just that I've never really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► about doing it as I was assumed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► filesystem come and save me but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► doesn't turn out to be the case I'm take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► i mean if if there's ever like an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► that would be perfect for two days John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► siracusa to make and publicize i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► can't i can't think of something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► yeah i mean the other solution as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► people tell you oh just make a use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► freenas to make a ZFS mass and put all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► your data on that and that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► solution that nobody wants to do that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► synology doesn't technology supports the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► btrfs now which I think has day to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► something but my synology doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► support it so maybe when i went to Mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► eventually dies and are replaceable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► 10 FS and that'll solve the problem but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► in the meantime I'm experiment with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► sunday was the best thing is you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► Sherlock in like two years when they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► when they had exactly so the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► developer experience yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► because when i finally get it working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► will be like now a PFS says the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► integrity get rejected from the mac app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► store because it won't be sandbox about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► all access yeah yeah yeahs try to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► it get you know there will be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► like competitor that will sell theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► for less than I like i said i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► there's already a program that does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► for each of us plus and presumably that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► same program will work on a PM as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► forget the name of the programs but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► this is not it's not a new idea i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► application I just can't remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► name which is probably why don't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► installed for like no reason that when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► think about it like why haven't you done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► this before why aren't you running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► I was always just thinking the sauces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► that would save me I thought like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► I'll just I'll stick it out and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► knew file system here probably next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► and I've been thinking that for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► no data integrity alright what else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► going on me in apple filesystem tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► about space sharing that this therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► we gotta save that for a but i just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► to get dinner as well shuffled around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► will save the other details to the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► of this is the main point I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► to the word discuss will talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► space sharing an atomic on snapshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► next week probably already thanks lat 43 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► sponsor this week fracture hover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► mean to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► oh it was accidental John any research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► you can find the show know today p dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► and if your twitter you can follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► yes byl i assessed that's Casey list and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► a co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► sorry talk about eva is no no don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► think I forgot about that i mean we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► gonna get to it someday we're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► gonna talk about you know we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► going to talk about tivo by the time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► get to it people are going to care even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► less than they do now and that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► that's pretty impressive really when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► think about it I'll care what nobody the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► only one on apple buys what the hell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► the name indicates a rodeo but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► the angry birds company I below so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► apple buys then all of a sudden Mulcair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► well then we will talk about it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► then don't see the point but to be fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► to be fair i have nothing else to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► about so whatever I i discovered during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► our show that you can not be theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► I don't know when this became possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► supports flagging where the flags can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► any color of this like list of multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► colors and it's been that way for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► while I thought how long have i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► always just hit you know command ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► lol whatever it is to set the flag I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► never known there were multiple flags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► now I can make my crappy email filing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► system even worse by making all like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► flag messages but i never get back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► now I can make them different colors i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► never get back to and color your shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► yep wow you know if you never get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► to them maybe it's not worth flagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► yeah that's probably right now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► that's not that's not how that works its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► flagging them because he thinks he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► to get back to them by saying because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► failed to they must not have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► one could be like pick up adam from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► daycare it's like well I never did it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► guess I was not important man flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► well the good thing is like it when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► you are as crappy and as slacking as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► am with was dealing with email and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► responding to email most email removes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► the need to respond to it if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► yeah but on the other hand i'm probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► losing a lot of friends and colleagues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► by doing this so it's definitely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► free sending email DeMarco is sending an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► it's sending it to Devan all I just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► up with a new topic future Sheldon write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► this and what email email handling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► no but it sounds like you guys have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► different systems i think it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► talking about assuming i have a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► could actually that's right this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► this is a whole show i'm writing gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► get my collection of hacks is not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► something i would describe as a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► it is it is more just like it just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► I'm not words wait you're adding it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► to the show me is how we handle email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► future topic screen time for kids is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► also i don't know if it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► document that's also a topic that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► think we should get them at my people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► the threshold of making history but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► doesn't since I engine your kids just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► get older and they get more screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► declan's going to be getting into screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► time now Adams already into screen time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► yeah yes because that's what we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► yes apparently it's tech related it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► tech related parenting stuff we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► get we should do the parenting show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► right after doing the email show to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► really ensure we get the most emails no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► magnetic this technology is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► their lives and part of technology as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► case you will tell you as your feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► mhm yeah you still on episode five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► analog sure I i think i was i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► was actually like random random episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► like i'm not i'm not going you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► every once in a while there's a random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► episode the people say I have to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► to my list too but yeah sequentially him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► I listen to all that because i'm a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► Frankie marco de exactly you're the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► who cares you have a lot of free time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► that that too because you're retired or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► goodness i actually have a busy summer / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► have explained well you know I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► on vacation no I'm you know I busy I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► busy trying to paralyze an mp3 encoder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► from the early two thousands sign of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► being busy i think that's what that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► procrastination tactics for to avoid me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► having to dive into the iOS 10 stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► quite yet we're gonna say what what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► are you not doing that's making you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► paralyzed mp3 encoder i have i have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQJhg8U/6661">TS</a>]
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