The Accidental Tech Podcast

174: A Ding in the Room


00:00:00   is there where's there a good summary of [TS]

00:00:02   what the hell happened in the keynote [TS]

00:00:03   i'm on in your notes damage on I didn't [TS]

00:00:06   take good notes what do you want from me [TS]

00:00:09   you guys are the best so we are here [TS]

00:00:12   live in California almost on vacation we [TS]

00:00:16   are in my hotel room [TS]

00:00:18   so any weird audio things that might or [TS]

00:00:20   might not be here that's a the parc 55 [TS]

00:00:22   fault definitely not ours and so we just [TS]

00:00:24   got out of the state of the union and so [TS]

00:00:27   I guess there's a lot to cover here I [TS]

00:00:28   don't know how much we're going to today [TS]

00:00:30   because we have a bit of a time limit [TS]

00:00:31   let's just try to get started huh right [TS]

00:00:34   so what was the first thing that was [TS]

00:00:36   covered in the came out it was it I [TS]

00:00:38   don't like it was all blurred when I [TS]

00:00:40   don't have a swatch i was watching [TS]

00:00:41   that's right that's right there and [TS]

00:00:42   watch us three holy crap it turns out [TS]

00:00:46   the watch 3 is actually the first non [TS]

00:00:48   beta version of watch us in my personal [TS]

00:00:50   opinion man did it look good [TS]

00:00:53   well we haven't used it yet don't look I [TS]

00:00:55   said look good idea was good yeah but [TS]

00:00:58   honestly and no I mean I mean you know [TS]

00:01:00   I'm kind of a watch skeptic at this [TS]

00:01:01   point our yeah but a little bit but but [TS]

00:01:04   no I mean I think it looks great and I [TS]

00:01:07   was really really hoping that they would [TS]

00:01:09   you know kind of just read rethink the [TS]

00:01:12   watch rethink the app paradigm rethink [TS]

00:01:15   the but the difference between the [TS]

00:01:17   glances and the app and and everything [TS]

00:01:20   else and I think they did and it looks [TS]

00:01:23   really good i'm very tentatively [TS]

00:01:26   optimistic about it honestly I think it [TS]

00:01:28   shows that they are like you know by [TS]

00:01:30   getting rid of the glances and by [TS]

00:01:31   consolidating you know the app with the [TS]

00:01:33   face and everything it looks like they [TS]

00:01:35   are actually willing to reconsider and [TS]

00:01:38   rethink fundamental things about how the [TS]

00:01:40   watch works and that is awesome and it [TS]

00:01:42   was because you know it kind of needed [TS]

00:01:43   that you know Obi I think the overall [TS]

00:01:45   the overall impression that I think [TS]

00:01:48   we're getting from apple for about the [TS]

00:01:50   watch during this is please use apps [TS]

00:01:53   like that's kind of like you know first [TS]

00:01:55   of all please make asked for and [TS]

00:01:57   secondly like they are they are being [TS]

00:01:59   much more forward with users including [TS]

00:02:01   things like the like the the [TS]

00:02:03   complication like gallery they showed up [TS]

00:02:05   in the ethyl and the stadium in there [TS]

00:02:06   there being more for with users about [TS]

00:02:08   like how how how they discover that they [TS]

00:02:11   can put apps on there [TS]

00:02:13   watch and by making this better [TS]

00:02:15   hopefully they'll make them a little [TS]

00:02:16   more you know sticky and useful for [TS]

00:02:18   people so overall it looks great and I [TS]

00:02:20   really hope that it ends up performing [TS]

00:02:23   and just being as good as it looks in [TS]

00:02:26   the keynote yeah as the one of the three [TS]

00:02:28   of us that i think is most enthusiastic [TS]

00:02:29   about the watch i was overjoyed by what [TS]

00:02:32   I saw I it looked unbelievable Apple [TS]

00:02:34   apparently has made tremendous strides [TS]

00:02:36   on making appt launching considerably [TS]

00:02:38   quicker as far as we know all of that a [TS]

00:02:42   software doesn't require any new watch [TS]

00:02:43   hardware which presumably is coming [TS]

00:02:45   sometime soon but no formal mention was [TS]

00:02:47   made of it it looked awesome and there [TS]

00:02:50   were some other features that I thought [TS]

00:02:51   really good the the emergency thing that [TS]

00:02:55   they did so if you mash down what was [TS]

00:02:57   once the completely useless contacts [TS]

00:02:59   button but it's now the like what is [TS]

00:03:01   that the glances button or not glances [TS]

00:03:03   but like that after the Amazon was gone [TS]

00:03:06   yeah yeah doc so I seamaster on the dock [TS]

00:03:08   button and it shows you what today is [TS]

00:03:11   the three sliders which is power off [TS]

00:03:13   power reserve lock device [TS]

00:03:14   well if you hold down the button long [TS]

00:03:16   enough it will eventually place an [TS]

00:03:19   emergency call to the local emergency [TS]

00:03:21   number in the particular locality that [TS]

00:03:24   your standard sitting and and so if [TS]

00:03:26   you're in Hong Kong with you have an [TS]

00:03:28   American watch it will call whatever the [TS]

00:03:30   appropriate number is in Hong Kong if [TS]

00:03:31   you're in America regardless if you [TS]

00:03:32   watch happens to be British it will call [TS]

00:03:35   it's very very cool it will also i guess [TS]

00:03:36   paid or send a push notification to the [TS]

00:03:39   emergency contacts with your location [TS]

00:03:41   and and I guess whereabouts or whatever [TS]

00:03:44   it looks really really cool yeah this is [TS]

00:03:47   i mean i-i I worry a little bit about [TS]

00:03:50   how easy it is to invoke like if you [TS]

00:03:52   just hold down the button because it is [TS]

00:03:54   fairly you know it's not that uncommon [TS]

00:03:57   to accidentally hold down the button on [TS]

00:03:59   your watch if it's like pressing against [TS]

00:04:01   something to have an action that read [TS]

00:04:03   that only requires it to be held down [TS]

00:04:05   for a long time with no additional [TS]

00:04:06   confirmation step I think there's a bit [TS]

00:04:08   of a risk of false alarms there but [TS]

00:04:10   overall the idea of this feature is [TS]

00:04:12   really nice you know implementation [TS]

00:04:13   details aside the idea of it is great [TS]

00:04:16   and it's yet one more reason why some [TS]

00:04:19   people might want the watch yet one more [TS]

00:04:20   benefit some people might get from it [TS]

00:04:22   I don't expect this to be extremely [TS]

00:04:24   widely used but for the people who do [TS]

00:04:26   use [TS]

00:04:26   it'll make a really big difference in [TS]

00:04:28   their life and that's that's nothing to [TS]

00:04:30   sneeze at [TS]

00:04:32   I think you can make it too complicated [TS]

00:04:33   though like because if you're in a [TS]

00:04:35   situation and all like you can't make [TS]

00:04:37   that you can really make it be an [TS]

00:04:38   interaction can really make it so okay [TS]

00:04:40   well to call mine online do this then [TS]

00:04:43   look at your watch then place your [TS]

00:04:44   finger precisely to touch this thing [TS]

00:04:46   then do that then you know like confirm [TS]

00:04:48   and double confirm insert both keys it [TS]

00:04:49   really has to be the all i can do in [TS]

00:04:52   this injured state is grow up for my [TS]

00:04:54   watch feel a physical button and hold it [TS]

00:04:56   down for a long time and even that may [TS]

00:04:57   be beyond the their physical abilities [TS]

00:05:00   of someone who's in a real dire [TS]

00:05:01   emergency [TS]

00:05:02   I mean a more clever i'll have enough [TS]

00:05:05   for collaborate and even more prone to [TS]

00:05:07   false alarms implementation would be if [TS]

00:05:10   it notices like your heart rate going [TS]

00:05:11   down to unsafe levels or something but [TS]

00:05:13   then again some people have really low [TS]

00:05:15   heart rates and I don't know that you [TS]

00:05:17   know like you're trying to make it sort [TS]

00:05:19   of the this watching is actively [TS]

00:05:22   monitoring whether this person is alive [TS]

00:05:24   and healthy and when they're not at [TS]

00:05:25   sends notifications on to call 911 but [TS]

00:05:27   at least something there [TS]

00:05:28   there are location out to their [TS]

00:05:31   emergency contact or whatever I mean [TS]

00:05:32   overall for although the watch three [TS]

00:05:34   things I don't want to be mean Apple but [TS]

00:05:38   it kind of makes me wonder maybe i watch [TS]

00:05:40   has been in development for a long time [TS]

00:05:42   and they launched it with one of only [TS]

00:05:45   two physical buttons on the device being [TS]

00:05:47   a feature that basically nobody used and [TS]

00:05:48   they fix that and watch us three great [TS]

00:05:50   girls were all talking about this you [TS]

00:05:52   know that consolidated things made think [TS]

00:05:54   that one of the biggest applause lines [TS]

00:05:55   when people realize they repurpose that [TS]

00:05:57   huge button on the side up to something [TS]

00:05:59   that people whose I'm like when you were [TS]

00:06:00   testing it internally did you have [TS]

00:06:02   testers bias where you so enamored with [TS]

00:06:05   the idea of contacting the other five [TS]

00:06:06   people on the watch OS team and sending [TS]

00:06:08   them scribbles or whatever like that [TS]

00:06:09   that that you convince yourself that is [TS]

00:06:11   actually such an important feature that [TS]

00:06:13   deserve this big button i think it [TS]

00:06:15   reveals a flaw in their testing group or [TS]

00:06:19   methodology or some other bias that they [TS]

00:06:23   missed this and it's also a shame [TS]

00:06:24   because of apples recycles that kind of [TS]

00:06:26   have to wait for an entire year from to [TS]

00:06:27   fix this because it required a big [TS]

00:06:29   rethink like I feel like almost all the [TS]

00:06:31   things that they're revamping here with [TS]

00:06:33   the exception of the text of making [TS]

00:06:34   launch faster but almost all the other [TS]

00:06:35   revamping seem like things that could [TS]

00:06:38   have discovered with a with a [TS]

00:06:40   broader test group when they were coming [TS]

00:06:42   up with the first design and the rest of [TS]

00:06:43   the stuff like making it launched faster [TS]

00:06:45   that's not really making a launcher is [TS]

00:06:47   making it be already launched can be [TS]

00:06:49   already there right keep more stuff in [TS]

00:06:51   memory so you don't have to launch it [TS]

00:06:52   because you're never going to get [TS]

00:06:53   launched fast and slow hardware that [TS]

00:06:55   seems like a good rethinking I've heard [TS]

00:06:57   some people say that is actually still [TS]

00:07:01   not quite stream lined to left enough [TS]

00:07:03   that you could streamline it further so [TS]

00:07:04   that you could control the entire watch [TS]

00:07:06   with just the physical buttons for [TS]

00:07:09   example in your fingers and sweaty [TS]

00:07:10   sweaty finger people are very angry [TS]

00:07:11   ok the idea that trying to use you're [TS]

00:07:14   watching a certain point your finger [TS]

00:07:16   becomes useless it's got its 22 sweaty [TS]

00:07:18   right and so they want to be able to [TS]

00:07:20   quickly hit physical buttons to stop and [TS]

00:07:22   start timer on their work out and stuff [TS]

00:07:24   in situations where the finger cannot [TS]

00:07:25   precisely interact with the screen [TS]

00:07:27   anyway so I think there's still ways to [TS]

00:07:30   go in terms of accessibility for can i [TS]

00:07:32   use the watch like a regular watch [TS]

00:07:34   without touching the screen at all i'm [TS]

00:07:36   not sure the use case that Apple cares [TS]

00:07:37   about this point but definitely watch 3 [TS]

00:07:39   is it huge step in the right direction [TS]

00:07:41   on all fronts especially performs the [TS]

00:07:44   way they showed and especially if [TS]

00:07:45   whatever hit there is the battery life [TS]

00:07:47   is not noticeable because one thing I [TS]

00:07:49   think people are mostly not been [TS]

00:07:50   complaining about is that my watch dies [TS]

00:07:51   in the middle of the day so maybe they [TS]

00:07:53   have a little bit of battery despair [TS]

00:07:54   maybe they can squish things down and [TS]

00:07:56   they'll be enough overhead for all these [TS]

00:07:57   background updates and stuff like that [TS]

00:07:59   yeah well I mean the watch battery is a [TS]

00:08:01   bit of a problem for the 30-millimeter [TS]

00:08:02   users who use work out a lot of that's [TS]

00:08:04   true but beyond that yet in general [TS]

00:08:06   you're right i mean most i mean when i [TS]

00:08:08   was wearing the watch i would finish [TS]

00:08:09   most days with like fifty percent [TS]

00:08:10   battery left which is great but you [TS]

00:08:12   weren't using the apps on the launch [TS]

00:08:13   like that ever see how this works out in [TS]

00:08:15   practice was like it you know because [TS]

00:08:17   the apps or so cumbersome to use you [TS]

00:08:19   wouldn't use it for that and so now if [TS]

00:08:21   they become better to use I don't let [TS]

00:08:23   that hold the whole brushes that we want [TS]

00:08:24   people to be in and out of the apt [TS]

00:08:25   quickly small quick interactions and [TS]

00:08:27   your interactions can't be quick if you [TS]

00:08:29   can't start them until you know 3 10 [TS]

00:08:32   seconds past they are talking about how [TS]

00:08:34   the current app won't go away for a much [TS]

00:08:36   longer period of time so that if you're [TS]

00:08:38   in the store looking at a shopping list [TS]

00:08:39   every time you bring that you know you [TS]

00:08:41   look at shopping list you somehow we [TS]

00:08:42   navigate to it and you check off the [TS]

00:08:44   item you know Scott and then you put [TS]

00:08:45   your arm down you walk 20 feet and i'll [TS]

00:08:47   pick up another item pick up your watch [TS]

00:08:48   again it's like I have no idea what [TS]

00:08:50   you're looking at here is the time [TS]

00:08:51   like I was just looking at the grocery [TS]

00:08:53   list find the grocery list again even if [TS]

00:08:54   it's something as simple as I hit the [TS]

00:08:56   button swipe swipe to the doc go back [TS]

00:08:58   into the end it will remember [TS]

00:08:59   oh you were just looking at your grocery [TS]

00:09:00   list and stick on that and this is kind [TS]

00:09:02   of like a mind-reading thing where when [TS]

00:09:03   you want it to be on the last thing you [TS]

00:09:05   were looking at your frustrated that [TS]

00:09:06   it's not but if you just want to show [TS]

00:09:08   the time you're frustrated that it's [TS]

00:09:09   showing the previous watch so there's [TS]

00:09:11   another delicate balance and I hope they [TS]

00:09:12   sort of user tested this more in the [TS]

00:09:15   real world maybe now the largest [TS]

00:09:16   publicly that they could have been all [TS]

00:09:18   wearing it maybe that was the full on [TS]

00:09:19   the methodology if you try to wear it [TS]

00:09:20   secretly small group of people you're [TS]

00:09:22   not gonna learn like it's so easy to [TS]

00:09:24   convince yourself that little wheel of [TS]

00:09:26   people is like super awesome and you can [TS]

00:09:27   send each other like digital times and [TS]

00:09:29   stuff and then once it's out in the wide [TS]

00:09:32   world you're like you know I don't find [TS]

00:09:33   myself using the wheel of people that [TS]

00:09:35   often we have a whole big buttons use or [TS]

00:09:37   something else but but kudos to them for [TS]

00:09:39   not being stubborn saying you know that [TS]

00:09:42   they didn't come up with the right [TS]

00:09:43   paradigm the first time so let's try [TS]

00:09:44   again instead of trying to just let me [TS]

00:09:46   do minor tweaks and maybe we can adjust [TS]

00:09:48   it as if they change the purpose of the [TS]

00:09:49   home button iOS like it used to be when [TS]

00:09:52   you push the home but you went back to [TS]

00:09:53   the grid of icons we turned out that's [TS]

00:09:55   totally wrong and we're using for [TS]

00:09:56   something that they got that right the [TS]

00:09:58   first time on the phone they did not get [TS]

00:09:59   it right and watch [TS]

00:10:00   yeah yeah we should probably move on [TS]

00:10:02   from the watch pretty soon but a couple [TS]

00:10:04   of other notes a lot more support for [TS]

00:10:06   people who are wheelchair bound which I [TS]

00:10:08   thought was really really cool that's [TS]

00:10:09   great I'm and among other things a the [TS]

00:10:11   stand notification now says time to roll [TS]

00:10:14   take a break and push around for one [TS]

00:10:16   minute i thought that was really awesome [TS]

00:10:17   and I i can imagine if I was in a [TS]

00:10:20   wheelchair I think that's amazing and [TS]

00:10:21   certainly more inclusive they did a lot [TS]

00:10:23   Welton they sort of did a lot with faces [TS]

00:10:26   so there's different phases newer faces [TS]

00:10:27   more customizable faces yet unless I'm [TS]

00:10:30   missing something you can't as a [TS]

00:10:31   third-party developer make your own face [TS]

00:10:34   it's just the complications are a little [TS]

00:10:35   bit more robust now is that kind of a [TS]

00:10:37   fair summary yet it's basically I mean [TS]

00:10:38   yeah you you have basically no ability [TS]

00:10:41   to make faces at all but complications [TS]

00:10:43   suck less you know before before like it [TS]

00:10:46   one of the reasons why we haven't seen [TS]

00:10:48   you know an incredibly useful [TS]

00:10:50   complications from developers is there's [TS]

00:10:52   been all sorts of limitations employees [TS]

00:10:54   and honest underscores way better to you [TS]

00:10:56   know qualified to talk about this than I [TS]

00:10:57   am because I because basically I from [TS]

00:10:59   what he told me i discovered there's [TS]

00:11:00   nothing for me to do they're really [TS]

00:11:01   before you know things just things like [TS]

00:11:04   you know how [TS]

00:11:05   often the complication update its own [TS]

00:11:06   data from its app versus just try to [TS]

00:11:09   guess from like a timeline what it [TS]

00:11:10   should be discovering stuff like that so [TS]

00:11:12   with this release some of those [TS]

00:11:13   limitations have been lifted and yeah i [TS]

00:11:15   mean there haven't been removed just you [TS]

00:11:17   know maybe like the limited raised or [TS]

00:11:20   some some new things are possible that [TS]

00:11:21   weren't possible before and complication [TS]

00:11:23   but it seems like that the major [TS]

00:11:24   advantage that the watch apps have is [TS]

00:11:28   that kind of unified glance / at mode [TS]

00:11:31   and if you're configured as a [TS]

00:11:33   complication you you could you're more [TS]

00:11:36   frequently kept in memory or something I [TS]

00:11:38   don't know the details but like you have [TS]

00:11:39   higher privileges in the system and [TS]

00:11:41   you're refreshed more often and you you [TS]

00:11:43   can you know you can respond faster [TS]

00:11:44   because you're kept more memory so you [TS]

00:11:47   know for people who want to configure [TS]

00:11:48   one or two apps as their complications [TS]

00:11:50   those apps will be substantially faster [TS]

00:11:53   to respond then the other ones in the [TS]

00:11:55   system but we will see how that shakes [TS]

00:11:56   out and all the apps will have [TS]

00:11:58   background refresh the the big slamming [TS]

00:12:01   other on the old watch was that a lot of [TS]

00:12:03   the times when you went to anything any [TS]

00:12:04   kind of screen very often used all the [TS]

00:12:06   information and by going to the screen [TS]

00:12:08   you triggered ok now this application [TS]

00:12:10   gets to do something to update [TS]

00:12:11   information and again that kills the [TS]

00:12:13   whole getting get out quick nature of [TS]

00:12:14   the watch the new system is back and [TS]

00:12:17   refresh all a privilege for i think its [TS]

00:12:19   rollout definitely privileged if it's a [TS]

00:12:21   if it's a complication and the little [TS]

00:12:23   demo they gave was update all of your UI [TS]

00:12:26   so it always matches so that you never [TS]

00:12:28   in a situation where the glass shows one [TS]

00:12:29   thing but if you launch the app but [TS]

00:12:30   showed something else of it but if you [TS]

00:12:31   you know so on the complication shows [TS]

00:12:34   the third thing to just keep them all in [TS]

00:12:35   sync always up-to-date and in the old [TS]

00:12:38   regime of watching so you couldn't do [TS]

00:12:40   that because you weren't running until [TS]

00:12:41   they activated you and by then it was [TS]

00:12:43   too late because you should was supposed [TS]

00:12:44   to already have the information so [TS]

00:12:46   they've learned that lesson they've [TS]

00:12:47   implemented hopefully in a way that [TS]

00:12:49   again doesn't kill your battery and and [TS]

00:12:51   sorts out the limited memory on the [TS]

00:12:52   watch in a way that actually enables the [TS]

00:12:54   applications you use frequently to be [TS]

00:12:56   all today tall consistent now in it [TS]

00:12:59   always really really good it was funny [TS]

00:13:00   that they actually showed a [TS]

00:13:02   demonstration watch is two and how [TS]

00:13:04   crappy it is too late and have been [TS]

00:13:05   watching was too and is kevin lynch i [TS]

00:13:07   believe was basically said in so many [TS]

00:13:09   words [TS]

00:13:10   look at how crappy this is you guys [TS]

00:13:11   don't worry we fixed it so it's all good [TS]

00:13:13   people apples apples willing to to [TS]

00:13:16   critique their own past work once the [TS]

00:13:18   problems [TS]

00:13:18   go away that one yeah and once the [TS]

00:13:20   problems you on the work isn't how [TS]

00:13:21   crappy this is look how crappy this was [TS]

00:13:24   yeah it's very disappointed you're right [TS]

00:13:26   a couple quick other watch highlights [TS]

00:13:28   scribble I think they called it so you [TS]

00:13:31   can actually do handwriting on the watch [TS]

00:13:33   and that will turn into text I don't [TS]

00:13:35   think that's going to be terribly [TS]

00:13:36   convenient [TS]

00:13:37   however I do applaud the fact the the [TS]

00:13:40   fact that it's a possibility that it's [TS]

00:13:41   something you can do because sometimes [TS]

00:13:44   you maybe don't want to dictate and [TS]

00:13:45   maybe only want to write one word like [TS]

00:13:47   the example on the apple website that [TS]

00:13:49   goes through all the different stuff on [TS]

00:13:50   the watch is the word starbucks like [TS]

00:13:52   you're not gonna want to you're not you [TS]

00:13:54   may not want to dictate that necessarily [TS]

00:13:56   but at least you can scribble out STI [TS]

00:13:58   ARB and it would hopefully figure out [TS]

00:14:00   and I would never want to be be heard [TS]

00:14:02   saying the word starbucks natural [TS]

00:14:04   aptitude and there's this feels more [TS]

00:14:05   like an accessibility feature feature [TS]

00:14:07   for people who have difficulty speaking [TS]

00:14:09   to it because I can't think of a [TS]

00:14:10   situation where i mean you can whisper [TS]

00:14:12   to the watch bring it up to your face [TS]

00:14:13   and say starbucks whispered it's like a [TS]

00:14:16   prayer and then like but because [TS]

00:14:20   scratching out those letters [TS]

00:14:21   graffiti-style not graffiti you can [TS]

00:14:22   actually write actual letters on a [TS]

00:14:24   little watch face especially if you have [TS]

00:14:25   the small watch [TS]

00:14:26   oh boy that does not sound like a good [TS]

00:14:28   time and dictation for people who [TS]

00:14:30   haven't tried it [TS]

00:14:31   dictating on the watch like dictating [TS]

00:14:33   anywhere if you're afraid to be talking [TS]

00:14:34   to your device's just do it a few times [TS]

00:14:36   do you realize wow this is faster than i [TS]

00:14:37   could type on a keyboard because it [TS]

00:14:39   usually is for most people it's really [TS]

00:14:40   efficient but yes it's nice they added [TS]

00:14:42   there is an option and it's definitely [TS]

00:14:43   an overwatch os3 feature table throw it [TS]

00:14:46   in we can do it may be good may be bad [TS]

00:14:48   maybe people use it in certain [TS]

00:14:49   situations but why not certainly it's [TS]

00:14:52   not sucking your battery up its input [TS]

00:14:53   mode and yeah it's better than it's [TS]

00:14:55   better than digital doodles to each [TS]

00:14:57   other it's not you know so and it also [TS]

00:14:59   supports Chinese which yeah that's a big [TS]

00:15:01   house which is really impressive and [TS]

00:15:03   actually that's a great mini segue there [TS]

00:15:06   were a handful of people of color on [TS]

00:15:09   stage there are a handful of women on [TS]

00:15:10   stage and I thought every single one of [TS]

00:15:14   the people of color and women on stage [TS]

00:15:15   absolutely killed it will talk a little [TS]

00:15:17   bit more later about the woman whose [TS]

00:15:19   name escapes me that did the music demo [TS]

00:15:21   who I thought was fantastic and the [TS]

00:15:23   woman who did the scribble that the [TS]

00:15:26   Chinese scribble demo I i could have [TS]

00:15:29   practiced that character a couple of [TS]

00:15:31   characters or so [TS]

00:15:32   this week's and screwed yeah that's [TS]

00:15:33   difficult the amount of space I mean [TS]

00:15:34   look so big up on the screen no it's [TS]

00:15:36   drawing chinese character but think it's [TS]

00:15:37   like some of those strokes were so small [TS]

00:15:39   on like that finger must have been [TS]

00:15:41   covering the entire thing yeah I don't [TS]

00:15:43   know enough about a Far East text input [TS]

00:15:46   to know how important it is to be able [TS]

00:15:48   to do this on the watch like his [TS]

00:15:49   dictation worse in in Chinese or [TS]

00:15:52   Japanese or other language like that [TS]

00:15:53   because I don't always get you know it [TS]

00:15:56   still seems like it would be faster to [TS]

00:15:57   dictate but certainly drawing out [TS]

00:16:00   characters or he's like you know [TS]

00:16:02   selecting radicals or whatever and [TS]

00:16:03   combining into characters like when you [TS]

00:16:05   have language that don't just have 26 [TS]

00:16:06   letters it's nothing it's a big feature [TS]

00:16:08   well and also like you know it when you [TS]

00:16:09   have a language like that where the the [TS]

00:16:11   density of like how many characters you [TS]

00:16:13   need to express the message that you're [TS]

00:16:14   trying to shoulder when you have like [TS]

00:16:16   you know only a handful of characters vs [TS]

00:16:17   like you know having to step out five [TS]

00:16:18   words and I think it's more compelling [TS]

00:16:20   because it's in a less time you didn't [TS]

00:16:23   put this thing on this on this very on [TS]

00:16:24   this device that has very limited input [TS]

00:16:26   capabilities but you know overall I [TS]

00:16:27   think that the dueling of characters is [TS]

00:16:29   it's the kind of thing where like it's [TS]

00:16:31   going to be one of those fine balances [TS]

00:16:32   where it has to be a very short thing [TS]

00:16:35   you're trying to doodle and it has to be [TS]

00:16:37   way faster than doing it on but then [TS]

00:16:40   taking that your phone just doing it [TS]

00:16:41   there and like it's only you know if [TS]

00:16:43   it's also it's almost like the [TS]

00:16:44   implementation and the context what [TS]

00:16:45   you're doing these things if it's going [TS]

00:16:47   to be a big pain like the first few [TS]

00:16:49   times you do it you probably can say is [TS]

00:16:51   you take my phone from now on to do this [TS]

00:16:52   and this thing so it has to be really [TS]

00:16:54   good and you know it's it's probably not [TS]

00:16:56   going to be that widely used but it [TS]

00:16:57   would be nice for the for occasional use [TS]

00:16:59   i think yeah i'm getting back to the [TS]

00:17:00   diversity topic like yeah become this [TS]

00:17:02   before is there's only so much apple can [TS]

00:17:05   do here because they're the high-level [TS]

00:17:07   c-level executives the people on there [TS]

00:17:09   like important people page are mostly [TS]

00:17:11   white guys right now and you have to [TS]

00:17:13   wait for them to die or retire to be [TS]

00:17:14   replaced until you can fix your [TS]

00:17:16   diversity problem at the top right you [TS]

00:17:18   know like that that's just a problem [TS]

00:17:20   they face from years and years of not [TS]

00:17:23   paying enough attention to this topic so [TS]

00:17:25   they're fixing it in presentations the [TS]

00:17:27   best they can't they still have you know [TS]

00:17:29   Craig federighi q and like everyone else [TS]

00:17:32   up there like doing it and and tim cook [TS]

00:17:34   and like the whole people who are really [TS]

00:17:35   really in charge at the very top the [TS]

00:17:37   right below them the people who do the [TS]

00:17:39   demos there's no reason that those have [TS]

00:17:41   to be a bunch of people look at that [TS]

00:17:42   exactly like them right and so they're [TS]

00:17:44   doing they're doing a good job they're [TS]

00:17:46   doing and it's amazing like they could [TS]

00:17:48   have done this many years ago but it's [TS]

00:17:50   taken a long time for them to realize [TS]

00:17:51   you know like the first time I did it [TS]

00:17:53   like we'll have one woman presenter like [TS]

00:17:55   me [TS]

00:17:56   keep trying no yeah okay we'll have two [TS]

00:17:59   women presenters but both white good [TS]

00:18:01   you're making progress on it's like [TS]

00:18:02   they're they're slowly working the way [TS]

00:18:04   up to in and like you said all the [TS]

00:18:06   presenters are great of course like you [TS]

00:18:08   know all they're gonna be great because [TS]

00:18:09   they get these aren't just like random [TS]

00:18:11   people they picked out of Apple [TS]

00:18:12   employees you look at their titles [TS]

00:18:13   they're in charge over intimately [TS]

00:18:15   involved with the products they're [TS]

00:18:17   presenting their not like random drop-in [TS]

00:18:19   people they they know their stuff [TS]

00:18:21   they're enthusiastic about it and like [TS]

00:18:23   everyone else on stage they rehearse the [TS]

00:18:24   hell out of them into so everybody's [TS]

00:18:26   good [TS]

00:18:26   so that was nice to see it's alex is [TS]

00:18:29   still going to be years and years before [TS]

00:18:31   you see that at the very top but I hope [TS]

00:18:33   all presentations are like this should [TS]

00:18:35   be like the minimum bar now for example [TS]

00:18:37   the top level they should all be like [TS]

00:18:39   this and quality wise as well because [TS]

00:18:41   yeah now I thought I thought it actually [TS]

00:18:44   added to the quality of the presentation [TS]

00:18:46   as a whole to hear different voices and [TS]

00:18:48   in because these people like you said so [TS]

00:18:50   freaking good at doing these [TS]

00:18:51   presentations mean he's careful these [TS]

00:18:53   people were the first time I'd seen them [TS]

00:18:54   on stage and the better than Craig's [TS]

00:18:56   first time hard yet [TS]

00:18:58   now to be fair i freaking love Craig now [TS]

00:18:59   got any cute now [TS]

00:19:01   yeah that's yeah that's already come on [TS]

00:19:03   opinions so I love photos I can't wait [TS]

00:19:05   to do it anyway that's what us and I [TS]

00:19:09   think the best summary of the watch is [TS]

00:19:10   part of the keynote which up until the [TS]

00:19:12   state of the union was the my favorite [TS]

00:19:13   thing i've seen so far today but the the [TS]

00:19:16   summary page [TS]

00:19:17   further the preview page for watching us [TS]

00:19:19   which I mentioned briefly earlier it [TS]

00:19:21   says at the top of the screen watch OS [TS]

00:19:23   feels like a whole new watch which is [TS]

00:19:27   kind of uncomfortable that's hair like a [TS]

00:19:29   well this old stuff is crap today we [TS]

00:19:32   already fixed they would go over all [TS]

00:19:33   good right but it's true i mean i'm [TS]

00:19:35   really really x i'm really excited about [TS]

00:19:38   them about where this is going and the [TS]

00:19:40   watch looks really great response to [TS]

00:19:44   this week by fracture fracture is a [TS]

00:19:46   company that prints photos directly onto [TS]

00:19:48   glass go to fracture me.com you can get [TS]

00:19:51   ten percent off with the code ATP 10 [TS]

00:19:53   now fracture these photos are amazing [TS]

00:19:55   looking these nice thin pieces of glass [TS]

00:19:58   with your photos printed in vivid colors [TS]

00:20:01   the colors pop up you won't believe and [TS]

00:20:03   it comes in the solid foam core backing [TS]

00:20:05   behind the glass so you can mount it [TS]

00:20:07   really easily on walls or you can stand [TS]

00:20:09   up on desks little desk stands they make [TS]

00:20:11   it so easy to use these prints and they [TS]

00:20:13   just look fantastic [TS]

00:20:14   I get compliments on my fractured prints [TS]

00:20:16   all the time because they're all over [TS]

00:20:17   our house they make your photos look [TS]

00:20:19   good if you want to get your photo [TS]

00:20:20   printed you know what you probably [TS]

00:20:21   should [TS]

00:20:22   so often your photo just kind of set on [TS]

00:20:24   your phone forever or the UFOs what you [TS]

00:20:26   post on facebook or instagram and [TS]

00:20:27   they're there for like a day and they're [TS]

00:20:29   just buried forever and no one ever sees [TS]

00:20:30   them again with fracture you can get [TS]

00:20:32   your photos printed and have this [TS]

00:20:34   physical artifact have an actual [TS]

00:20:35   physical representation of your photo [TS]

00:20:37   that is an object made to last and it [TS]

00:20:39   just looks fantastic [TS]

00:20:40   you don't need to frame they are their [TS]

00:20:41   own thing you know they're all their own [TS]

00:20:43   self-contained thing so it looks great [TS]

00:20:45   the value is amazing for the video for [TS]

00:20:47   the price of a fantastic gifts you can [TS]

00:20:49   give them as gifts for holidays or if [TS]

00:20:51   you're only if you go on a trip with [TS]

00:20:52   somebody you can do something gift some [TS]

00:20:54   photos from the trip on fractures are [TS]

00:20:56   you can send family if you have like you [TS]

00:20:58   can like send pictures of your kids to [TS]

00:21:00   their grandparents or something else [TS]

00:21:01   like that you can do that fracture just [TS]

00:21:03   make great gifts and Great Prince I like [TS]

00:21:05   fracture a lot i used them myself there [TS]

00:21:08   if I if I need photos printed let's go [TS]

00:21:10   to them it's simple as that and i said i [TS]

00:21:12   recommend you do the same now fracture [TS]

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00:21:19   day all you need to do to enter is [TS]

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00:21:22   favorite dad quote or dad joke or dizzam [TS]

00:21:25   to enter check it out today go to [TS]

00:21:27   fracture me.com and use code ATP 10 to [TS]

00:21:30   get ten percent off thanks a lot [TS]

00:21:35   so next TV OS the only thing I really [TS]

00:21:38   got from that I was really excited about [TS]

00:21:40   there were two things actually one dark [TS]

00:21:41   mode yes which is something i didn't [TS]

00:21:43   even know I wanted but now that I know [TS]

00:21:44   what I know you did as soon as I saw it [TS]

00:21:47   I was like oh yeah that makes a lot of [TS]

00:21:48   sense that's really good [TS]

00:21:49   and supposedly single sign-on which [TS]

00:21:52   supposedly will fix all those problems [TS]

00:21:54   that will be awesome to so dark mode [TS]

00:21:56   that I've noticed recently that some TV [TS]

00:21:58   OS apps have been implementing their own [TS]

00:22:00   dark mode like they've been responding i [TS]

00:22:02   guess i'm assuming user requests for it [TS]

00:22:03   i like why why do people care about dark [TS]

00:22:05   mode it's not just aesthetics but you [TS]

00:22:08   know athletics is one thing just as [TS]

00:22:09   Marco people sometimes like dark mode [TS]

00:22:11   for their applications second thing is [TS]

00:22:13   people watch television and darkened [TS]

00:22:14   room sometimes and if your UI has a [TS]

00:22:16   white background and you come out of any [TS]

00:22:18   kind of video which usually doesn't have [TS]

00:22:19   a white background [TS]

00:22:20   it can be extremely sort of shocking and [TS]

00:22:23   glaring and this is not why they did it [TS]

00:22:26   but for me specifically have a plasma TV [TS]

00:22:28   and pure white and a plasma TV draws a [TS]

00:22:31   lot of extra power and can make your [TS]

00:22:33   Transformers wine a little bit and it's [TS]

00:22:35   the situation it's a that again this is [TS]

00:22:37   not why they did it but I'm excited by [TS]

00:22:38   it and also because i watch TV in a semi [TS]

00:22:41   semi darkened room at night so it kind [TS]

00:22:44   of boggles my mind that they decided to [TS]

00:22:46   go with white for their TV you why [TS]

00:22:47   because they know people watch TV and [TS]

00:22:49   kind of darkened rooms and you know when [TS]

00:22:51   the show is over you hit the menu but [TS]

00:22:53   you know what your eyeballs blown out [TS]

00:22:54   especially since non plasma TVs have [TS]

00:22:56   incredible brightness like LED tvs can [TS]

00:22:58   go super super bright and sometimes [TS]

00:23:00   people haven't turned up that bright so [TS]

00:23:01   they can see then bright sunlight [TS]

00:23:03   it's just not a good plan and a single [TS]

00:23:05   sign on is the other major pain point [TS]

00:23:06   for like you know when you install [TS]

00:23:09   applications you got to go through this [TS]

00:23:10   little dance and go to website and type [TS]

00:23:11   in these codes and I think that stops [TS]

00:23:13   regular people from stalling too many [TS]

00:23:14   apps because it's a pain in the butt if [TS]

00:23:16   there is a single sign-on you can do [TS]

00:23:18   once and handles all that for you and [TS]

00:23:19   people implemented which i'm sure they [TS]

00:23:20   will because people want you install [TS]

00:23:22   their apps [TS]

00:23:23   this will be great so two thumbs up it [TS]

00:23:25   seems i mean the single sign-on I don't [TS]

00:23:27   honestly know because I don't have cable [TS]

00:23:29   and you know I'm probably never gonna [TS]

00:23:30   see this myself but the the dark no just [TS]

00:23:33   go back to that for a second [TS]

00:23:34   you know that we saw like with the with [TS]

00:23:36   watch us with the update it seems like [TS]

00:23:38   watch us is getting a major course [TS]

00:23:40   correction and with iOS looks will get [TS]

00:23:43   to a little bit i'm sure it seems like [TS]

00:23:45   the design language has been updated to [TS]

00:23:48   some degree as [TS]

00:23:49   somewhat of a course correction so much [TS]

00:23:51   and refreshing things making things new [TS]

00:23:53   you know things like you know buttons [TS]

00:23:54   are now more visible as buttons and some [TS]

00:23:55   of the texts little bit thicker to be [TS]

00:23:57   more legible and stuff [TS]

00:23:58   the the TV getting dark mode i wonder if [TS]

00:24:01   that is kind of like a like a half step [TS]

00:24:03   in a course correction we're like you [TS]

00:24:05   know the previous Apple TV was all [TS]

00:24:06   constantly dark background you know most [TS]

00:24:09   other TV boxes do dark background [TS]

00:24:11   because it all the reasons that it [TS]

00:24:13   basically works better for tvs the ATVs [TS]

00:24:15   are actually used and TV hardware [TS]

00:24:16   everything the new Apple TV getting this [TS]

00:24:18   all white theme up front [TS]

00:24:20   honestly I consider that a design [TS]

00:24:23   misstep and I think you know they should [TS]

00:24:25   have like instead of just offering dark [TS]

00:24:27   mode they should just make TV OS 10 or [TS]

00:24:30   whatever it's gonna be called just make [TS]

00:24:31   it dark like just rethinking the whole [TS]

00:24:33   OS to be dark because most of the other [TS]

00:24:35   design elements don't have to change [TS]

00:24:36   that's one of the reasons are able to [TS]

00:24:37   offer a dark mode without the whole ton [TS]

00:24:39   of work like almost all the rest of the [TS]

00:24:41   design works whether it's a light or [TS]

00:24:42   dark background so why not [TS]

00:24:45   course-correct all the way and just [TS]

00:24:47   really themed TV OS to be dark and not [TS]

00:24:49   have this weird setting have to mean I [TS]

00:24:51   have a bright dual design there as part [TS]

00:24:53   of the reason light mode of each other [TS]

00:24:55   like motors it did it was a [TS]

00:24:56   differentiator because except every [TS]

00:24:57   other TV box was a like a black rich [TS]

00:25:00   background with stuff on it and Apple [TS]

00:25:02   was different different a bad way in [TS]

00:25:04   this case but it is differentiated in [TS]

00:25:05   the market so it seems like they want to [TS]

00:25:06   get even a dark mode is not black like [TS]

00:25:08   the old apple TV it looks like it's dark [TS]

00:25:09   grey yeah anyway this is not the things [TS]

00:25:13   that are most wrong with TV OS are [TS]

00:25:15   mostly involved inside the applications [TS]

00:25:17   themselves how do i navigate how is it [TS]

00:25:19   presented and that's not an OS level [TS]

00:25:20   problem that's like a problem of how do [TS]

00:25:22   you implement the your app for showing [TS]

00:25:24   TV shows and movies and individual apps [TS]

00:25:26   can fix that Apple's may still be not [TS]

00:25:29   particularly convenient to use but the [TS]

00:25:31   netflix app or whatever can continue to [TS]

00:25:32   make a pleasant experience within the [TS]

00:25:34   framework that's provided that the other [TS]

00:25:37   thing that's worth bringing up with [TS]

00:25:38   regard to the tvs and you remote app [TS]

00:25:40   that was aq promise like three months [TS]

00:25:42   ago when he was when he was on the the [TS]

00:25:43   talk show [TS]

00:25:44   yeah you're right it wasn't the talk [TS]

00:25:46   show wasn't it that's here now and to be [TS]

00:25:49   honest I don't really see what some [TS]

00:25:51   people play games but they can have [TS]

00:25:53   multiple controllers you can use any any [TS]

00:25:55   iOS devices control that was the other [TS]

00:25:56   big announcement and instead of doing [TS]

00:25:58   that at CVS games can finally require a [TS]

00:26:00   real controller- [TS]

00:26:01   again at a misstep that seems remember [TS]

00:26:04   there was a bouncing back and forth but [TS]

00:26:06   the thing is released about the copy but [TS]

00:26:07   this is I don't know how you can come to [TS]

00:26:10   that decision and not realize the [TS]

00:26:13   implications not like anything has [TS]

00:26:14   changed radically in the market since [TS]

00:26:16   then they've just like heard the cries [TS]

00:26:18   of everybody else in the same crimes [TS]

00:26:19   like you just got any 5lb look this into [TS]

00:26:21   the room and said you know you can write [TS]

00:26:24   games for Apple TV but you have to mute [TS]

00:26:27   you have to make them usable in this [TS]

00:26:28   terrible remotes like seriously no you [TS]

00:26:30   have to why we want everyone to be able [TS]

00:26:31   to play them well then there's certain [TS]

00:26:34   kinds of games we just can't make well [TS]

00:26:35   try harder and then that I don't I its [TS]

00:26:39   they still seem weird about games apples [TS]

00:26:41   always worried about games this is a [TS]

00:26:43   step in the right direction [TS]

00:26:44   those controllers are still super [TS]

00:26:46   expensive than the show you know we have [TS]

00:26:48   support for controllers a family but by [TS]

00:26:50   sport controllers plus the price of an [TS]

00:26:51   apple for controls crossed like what [TS]

00:26:52   twice as much as an apple TV [TS]

00:26:54   yeah there are like certainly still like [TS]

00:26:55   40 or 50 bucks I don't know there's at [TS]

00:26:57   least 50 years [TS]

00:26:58   yeah their gaming story is still model [TS]

00:27:01   less compared to the consoles but you [TS]

00:27:03   know [TS]

00:27:03   time marches on I mean you know console [TS]

00:27:05   controllers aren't cheap either but but [TS]

00:27:07   you know overall you like it you get you [TS]

00:27:09   definitely into console price territory [TS]

00:27:11   if you're planning on buying for [TS]

00:27:12   contractors but I think if that ends up [TS]

00:27:15   working out like if we get cool [TS]

00:27:17   multiplayer games that could be really [TS]

00:27:19   great like that could be an awesome [TS]

00:27:21   thing for the platform if they care they [TS]

00:27:22   make a first-party controller but i'd [TS]

00:27:24   read them doing well based on the design [TS]

00:27:25   of their first part of remote yeah [TS]

00:27:27   exactly [TS]

00:27:28   but yeah those tos and I mean I think it [TS]

00:27:32   looks good I we really should have just [TS]

00:27:34   steal on or something like that to see [TS]

00:27:36   if he's happy but to me it looked good [TS]

00:27:39   but i will see what happens after tea [TS]

00:27:42   vos was iOS 10 so when I said iOS I [TS]

00:27:46   really meant OS 10 which is interested [TS]

00:27:48   anymore [TS]

00:27:49   yeah i like i like the beginning at team [TS]

00:27:51   could come out and say we have four [TS]

00:27:52   platforms and listed them off and they [TS]

00:27:54   didn't do the rename then you know like [TS]

00:27:56   they was a weird kind of anomaly arrange [TS]

00:27:59   the presentation that was an intentional [TS]

00:28:00   tease or the just realized all at this [TS]

00:28:02   point we can't tell them it's mac OS so [TS]

00:28:04   Craig got to come out into his renaming [TS]

00:28:06   slide that he's done for the past few [TS]

00:28:08   like picking place names in California [TS]

00:28:10   like this time was about changing it to [TS]

00:28:11   lowercase a mac OS cases favorite name [TS]

00:28:14   at that was fine we expected it what did [TS]

00:28:18   they talk about what I will say though I [TS]

00:28:20   I did kind of expect them to just go [TS]

00:28:22   with mac OS 12 I didn't expect the [TS]

00:28:24   California names to continue and I [TS]

00:28:25   totally expected that some places in [TS]

00:28:27   California it's such a great branding [TS]

00:28:29   because they ran out of cats cats [TS]

00:28:30   weather good branding too but they ran [TS]

00:28:31   out but they won't run out of place [TS]

00:28:33   names in california right i think i [TS]

00:28:35   think the place names are better than [TS]

00:28:36   years and the better than numbers by the [TS]

00:28:38   way the version is 10-12 so not that it [TS]

00:28:40   matters anymore but and also Sierra is a [TS]

00:28:42   way better name than freaking out captan [TS]

00:28:45   which i still hate the all time that [TS]

00:28:47   time is over now [TS]

00:28:48   yeah thanks sara is a good name so in [TS]

00:28:51   mac OS Sierra there is a serie which [TS]

00:28:55   looked very powerful and toward the end [TS]

00:28:59   of this serie demo it appeared as though [TS]

00:29:02   it was doing a very googley photos style [TS]

00:29:04   like show me the files that involve i [TS]

00:29:08   don't know i'm trying to do whatever [TS]

00:29:09   example they use but you know showing [TS]

00:29:11   the files about the party i'm throwing [TS]

00:29:12   no show me the ones i worked on with [TS]

00:29:14   Aaron or something else something along [TS]

00:29:16   these lines where you're you're finding [TS]

00:29:18   a search query but being fairly abstract [TS]

00:29:21   well and it's kind of abstract show me [TS]

00:29:22   the files about the about the party [TS]

00:29:24   we're planning you know there's [TS]

00:29:25   something on those lines and it was able [TS]

00:29:26   to piece together what that meant know [TS]

00:29:28   the ones that i worked on with Aaron and [TS]

00:29:29   then you bring down a shorter list [TS]

00:29:31   I didn't like that it was very goofy and [TS]

00:29:35   the initial response pastor I was trying [TS]

00:29:37   to be funny be like here's your files [TS]

00:29:39   your master file there i love the way [TS]

00:29:40   you work like yeah the whole like Siri [TS]

00:29:42   like being beings like what it thinks is [TS]

00:29:46   funny and clever like the idea I think [TS]

00:29:47   that time is over now to drop though [TS]

00:29:49   there's a place for that but it's not [TS]

00:29:50   when you're in the middle of an [TS]

00:29:51   interaction our searches like and the [TS]

00:29:53   fact that everything was like [TS]

00:29:54   Notification Center was weird and they [TS]

00:29:56   have another magazine or save searches [TS]

00:29:57   and speaking of the photo stuff a lot of [TS]

00:29:59   the features that we're going to talk [TS]

00:30:00   about in the context of iOS I think it's [TS]

00:30:02   pretty clear now that they're also [TS]

00:30:03   available on the mac like the photos in [TS]

00:30:05   the deep learning in the blah blah a lot [TS]

00:30:07   of those like oh and also on photos on [TS]

00:30:09   the mac which is great like but they [TS]

00:30:11   just didn't demoed in the context of mac [TS]

00:30:12   you know backpack is ryan was all these [TS]

00:30:15   features have been demo'd like it here [TS]

00:30:16   is you know face detection for example [TS]

00:30:18   shown in iphoto it would be shown on the [TS]

00:30:20   mac and iphoto all the stuff here with [TS]

00:30:22   face detection stuff i assume is all the [TS]

00:30:24   better all be of help on the mac [TS]

00:30:26   but they didn't demo in that context so [TS]

00:30:27   surely Syria will fit in with that but [TS]

00:30:30   really it seemed like the the new [TS]

00:30:32   impressive features a series were mostly [TS]

00:30:34   reserved to be shown in connection with [TS]

00:30:35   iOS i'm assuming some of them are on the [TS]

00:30:37   mac but fact the series exist in the mac [TS]

00:30:39   is good the UI and having stuff in [TS]

00:30:42   Notification Center maybe not so good [TS]

00:30:44   and the my hope unification of spotlight [TS]

00:30:46   in Syria doesn't seem to be in the cards [TS]

00:30:48   they still seem to be separate things [TS]

00:30:49   which seems so it to me and I do kind of [TS]

00:30:52   like it kind of bothers me how [TS]

00:30:54   Notification Center is kind of like the [TS]

00:30:56   junk drawer on OS 10 like where they [TS]

00:30:58   show new features that like that most of [TS]

00:31:01   which come from iOS then the way to do [TS]

00:31:04   it that did they do that just by like [TS]

00:31:05   having this iOS like drawer guys like an [TS]

00:31:09   iOS simulator simulator is highly [TS]

00:31:11   enigmatic mystery because he asked any [TS]

00:31:13   mode like I do wish there was like a [TS]

00:31:14   little bit you know maybe more more [TS]

00:31:16   native seeming or more you know more [TS]

00:31:18   integrated you know integration of these [TS]

00:31:21   features but you know i guess you well [TS]

00:31:23   that will work itself out over time as [TS]

00:31:25   they have a you know works redesigned as [TS]

00:31:27   they say and features you use but yeah [TS]

00:31:29   overall it looks pretty cool i do think [TS]

00:31:32   though I i will go back and say like I [TS]

00:31:35   think that there i think the room for [TS]

00:31:37   Syria to have any kind of personality or [TS]

00:31:39   wit I think that's over because that [TS]

00:31:41   gets all first of all that it doesn't [TS]

00:31:42   translate well a lot of different [TS]

00:31:43   cultures you people you want how that [TS]

00:31:45   when you're conversing with it in a [TS]

00:31:47   funny way not what now when you started [TS]

00:31:50   doing a task i think i think it gets old [TS]

00:31:52   after like five seconds and then and [TS]

00:31:54   once you're past that point like you [TS]

00:31:56   don't want to hear you don't want your [TS]

00:31:57   your computer to be witty like when you [TS]

00:31:59   type in command the command line you get [TS]

00:32:01   witty responses from bosch something [TS]

00:32:03   else but i think i like it occasionally [TS]

00:32:06   but the problem is there's no way to [TS]

00:32:09   tell when I'm going to receive it and [TS]

00:32:12   think oh that's that's really cute and [TS]

00:32:13   when i'm going to see your filin is [TS]

00:32:15   stylin like come on really [TS]

00:32:18   but they don't have that are the [TS]

00:32:19   personalization stuff down like that the [TS]

00:32:21   whole thing we're talking about Google [TS]

00:32:22   is like it should learn my preferences [TS]

00:32:24   if you love the thing to be funny that [TS]

00:32:25   for those people should be funny for the [TS]

00:32:27   people don't like the funny it should [TS]

00:32:28   learn that that doesn't want them you [TS]

00:32:30   know that that is not even in the cards [TS]

00:32:31   in terms of of personalized interaction [TS]

00:32:34   with Syria that it will learn from what [TS]

00:32:36   you do and how you interact with it what [TS]

00:32:38   it is you like [TS]

00:32:39   and don't like and that they need to get [TS]

00:32:40   on that it also like its kind of no good [TS]

00:32:42   if it's being funny and also not doing [TS]

00:32:44   what you want to do that's the worst [TS]

00:32:46   like then you really hate it you're like [TS]

00:32:47   you why you being funny you just failed [TS]

00:32:49   when i asked you guys do you like it [TS]

00:32:51   just doesn't interest notice there are [TS]

00:32:53   some websites i found for why are you [TS]

00:32:54   being funny [TS]

00:32:55   hey what happened exactly I can search [TS]

00:32:57   the web for that if you'd like I mean [TS]

00:32:58   yes seriously [TS]

00:32:59   yeah like it has to like I just think [TS]

00:33:01   they're the chances of that not being [TS]

00:33:03   annoying are so low the head they should [TS]

00:33:06   just got to get cancer got abs and [TS]

00:33:09   windows windows and tabs [TS]

00:33:10   I don't know we've got a bunch of things [TS]

00:33:11   actually so going back the unlocking the [TS]

00:33:14   mac with walks watch proximity really [TS]

00:33:17   dig it or toucha touch ID on the [TS]

00:33:19   keyboard of your Mac just saying yeah [TS]

00:33:20   maybe you never know i really dig the [TS]

00:33:22   proximity thing what I want to see [TS]

00:33:23   though is how is corporate IT and like [TS]

00:33:25   that sort of now but i suspect that [TS]

00:33:27   anyone who has a job that has more than [TS]

00:33:30   just a few people at it will probably [TS]

00:33:32   have the kibosh put on that immediately [TS]

00:33:34   or kibosh however you pronounce yeah [TS]

00:33:35   today I got a lot of flack about that [TS]

00:33:38   honest question like do companies and [TS]

00:33:40   have that kind of strict security [TS]

00:33:41   requirement often use max yeah i mean so [TS]

00:33:44   my company issued me a 15-inch macbook [TS]

00:33:46   pro issues a lot of developers 15-inch [TS]

00:33:48   macbook pros and the VPN software we use [TS]

00:33:51   which is checkpoint VPN also includes a [TS]

00:33:54   non device firewall that prevents all [TS]

00:33:57   sorts of crap like airdrop why is [TS]

00:33:59   airdrop filtered by my butt by my own [TS]

00:34:03   advice and it doesn't have to be a [TS]

00:34:04   secure company as soon as you have an IT [TS]

00:34:06   department makes at all that stuff that [TS]

00:34:08   exam so so I you know I don't run VPN on [TS]

00:34:11   this computer unless i actually like [TS]

00:34:13   it's not even installed unless I need to [TS]

00:34:15   do something for work involving the VPN [TS]

00:34:17   when I will and I will install it do my [TS]

00:34:19   work and uninstall VPN because it's that [TS]

00:34:20   much for nightmare but anyway I really [TS]

00:34:22   like the idea of unlocking them at the [TS]

00:34:23   watch by proximity really dig it [TS]

00:34:26   universal clipboard i love this this [TS]

00:34:28   looks amazing universal clipper looks [TS]

00:34:31   like a good idea but as someone who uses [TS]

00:34:35   the clipboard to store lots of crap i [TS]

00:34:36   saw it as a potential for data loss [TS]

00:34:38   where some until I get into the right [TS]

00:34:40   mindset i don't have the idea that [TS]

00:34:42   copying something in my phone will [TS]

00:34:44   squish what's on my mac not use a [TS]

00:34:46   clipboard history things are really [TS]

00:34:47   squished will just push it down but it's [TS]

00:34:50   still weird for regular people think [TS]

00:34:51   we'll be fine [TS]

00:34:52   if it works well historically continuity [TS]

00:34:54   has been weird and flaky and if this is [TS]

00:34:56   built on top of continuity I don't know [TS]

00:34:57   but many third-party applications have [TS]

00:34:59   proven that this is something people [TS]

00:35:00   want the model to copy on their iOS [TS]

00:35:02   device and paste on the mac i find [TS]

00:35:04   myself about to try to do it before i [TS]

00:35:07   realized that i don't have any of those [TS]

00:35:08   apps installed 15 it won't work [TS]

00:35:10   um like continuity if this works I will [TS]

00:35:14   come to rely on but if it's at all flaky [TS]

00:35:17   i will just go back to pretending it [TS]

00:35:18   doesn't exist [TS]

00:35:19   yeah yeah I completely agree with you [TS]

00:35:21   i'm really looking forward to though it [TS]

00:35:23   looks super impressive to me I still [TS]

00:35:25   missed a spot from way back in the day [TS]

00:35:26   I'm hopeful that it works well there are [TS]

00:35:29   a few things that Apple is done today [TS]

00:35:31   make me think they're really really [TS]

00:35:33   going all in on all in iCloud which is [TS]

00:35:35   bold [TS]

00:35:36   I mean some things that our server side [TS]

00:35:39   with apple like messages seemed to work [TS]

00:35:41   pretty well generally speaking and the [TS]

00:35:44   cloudkit based things that Apple's don't [TS]

00:35:46   like notes for example seem to be [TS]

00:35:48   working well generally speaking but I am [TS]

00:35:50   I am very scared about having this all [TS]

00:35:54   rely on some sort of server so i'm [TS]

00:35:56   assuming maybe not maybe it's only local [TS]

00:35:58   but I'm assuming some server side thing [TS]

00:36:00   on Apple's well now the the one I'm [TS]

00:36:01   thinking of my tree developments that [TS]

00:36:03   I'm scared hold me was the disc [TS]

00:36:06   optimization like the idea is good that [TS]

00:36:09   people run out of space in the maknae [TS]

00:36:11   have no idea what the hell to do about [TS]

00:36:12   it and apple can tell you more space in [TS]

00:36:14   their iCloud Drive thing if they know [TS]

00:36:16   they'll transparently take your files [TS]

00:36:18   and and take the ones you haven't used [TS]

00:36:19   in a while push them up to the cloud and [TS]

00:36:21   free up the space and it will all be [TS]

00:36:22   transparent to you and you'll save a lot [TS]

00:36:23   of room on your mac and like this is [TS]

00:36:25   basically automated cleaning that people [TS]

00:36:27   don't do manually which is all great [TS]

00:36:29   like I'm all for this feature concept [TS]

00:36:30   wise and implementation was especially [TS]

00:36:32   if it's entirely transparent or well not [TS]

00:36:35   entirely transparent you would still [TS]

00:36:36   want some way for people to know the [TS]

00:36:38   dismal get pushed up to the cloud lots [TS]

00:36:39   of people have expressed the idea i want [TS]

00:36:41   to be able to tell that it shouldn't [TS]

00:36:43   push these files up to the cloud [TS]

00:36:44   I don't know like that there are lots of [TS]

00:36:47   pitfalls in terms of the implementation [TS]

00:36:48   of this but the real one is if it [TS]

00:36:51   doesn't work like reliably all the time [TS]

00:36:54   or at least as reliably as Dropbox then [TS]

00:36:56   then is just like a giant potential data [TS]

00:36:59   loss button or you can turn this on an [TS]

00:37:02   Apple will selectively hose certain ones [TS]

00:37:04   your files transparently in the [TS]

00:37:06   background without you knowing and with [TS]

00:37:07   new with no way for you to fix it so [TS]

00:37:08   this is a feature that I look at and say [TS]

00:37:11   I'm never turning I'm terrified of this [TS]

00:37:14   feature based on my past history of [TS]

00:37:16   using iCloud Drive and the complete [TS]

00:37:20   under bug ability of it and the non [TS]

00:37:22   flexibility other whereas something like [TS]

00:37:24   Dropbox focused [TS]

00:37:25   it's a single folder you can have [TS]

00:37:26   selective sink their badges on all the [TS]

00:37:28   icons to an official API they support i [TS]

00:37:31   know when things are saying I know when [TS]

00:37:32   they're not i can I can you know I have [TS]

00:37:35   a web interface to see like its version [TS]

00:37:36   of truth like all the tools available to [TS]

00:37:39   dropbox even though they're you know [TS]

00:37:40   fidgety or whatever don't seem to be [TS]

00:37:43   available miss and historically speaking [TS]

00:37:44   apple has not been as good and reliable [TS]

00:37:46   as Dropbox and other things about this [TS]

00:37:48   so this feature really scares me [TS]

00:37:49   especially since it looks so attractive [TS]

00:37:51   to people who are novices and just like [TS]

00:37:53   oh yes please take care of my storage [TS]

00:37:54   for me [TS]

00:37:55   yeah if they turn that on and it just [TS]

00:37:58   hoses everything that's going to be a [TS]

00:38:00   bad experience how you even recover [TS]

00:38:02   someone from that I know this is maybe I [TS]

00:38:04   shouldn't be so pessimistic about this [TS]

00:38:05   like implementation why is it seems like [TS]

00:38:07   it's a good idea but there are so many [TS]

00:38:09   places that from user interface to like [TS]

00:38:11   reliability to performance where it just [TS]

00:38:15   seems terrifying to me [TS]

00:38:16   yeah i mean like you know like an [TS]

00:38:17   interesting thought experiment where I [TS]

00:38:18   think would be you know if if dropbox [TS]

00:38:21   offered this exact same feature would [TS]

00:38:22   you enable like OS why not just like [TS]

00:38:24   yeah it's dropbox folder yeah did you [TS]

00:38:26   enable i don't think i enabled for [TS]

00:38:28   dropbox i don't think i would either end [TS]

00:38:29   and dropbox I trust way more than [TS]

00:38:31   thinking a cloud drive like it seems [TS]

00:38:33   like a good idea but I think they're [TS]

00:38:34   better solutions to this problem which [TS]

00:38:36   we'll get to in a little bit of the tap [TS]

00:38:38   the tabs and windows thing that seems [TS]

00:38:40   like they're just like scraping the [TS]

00:38:41   bottom of the barrel like oh we added [TS]

00:38:43   tabs the most things you know we just [TS]

00:38:44   make this an official API that you get [TS]

00:38:46   for free to use any document is easy to [TS]

00:38:48   implement you can just mixed windows [TS]

00:38:49   together with tabs lots of applications [TS]

00:38:50   have tabs it's nice to have a unified [TS]

00:38:52   interface is a recognition that tabs are [TS]

00:38:55   as common as buttons and sheets and text [TS]

00:38:58   input field and combo boxes and all the [TS]

00:39:00   other controls they have instead of [TS]

00:39:02   having to roll your own tabs here is a [TS]

00:39:04   standard control for you know not tabs [TS]

00:39:07   as in the old style one where you switch [TS]

00:39:09   your different like what they call it [TS]

00:39:11   the segmented control now just looking [TS]

00:39:12   at your actual fact abs back in the day [TS]

00:39:14   but web browsers have to know each tab [TS]

00:39:17   is actually entirely [TS]

00:39:17   no you can tear them out and combine [TS]

00:39:19   them it's nice to see that the system [TS]

00:39:20   level feature they're kind of boring [TS]

00:39:23   they look like Safari tabs and I'm not [TS]

00:39:24   sure safari tabs the best information of [TS]

00:39:26   tabs but it's a nice idea but I think [TS]

00:39:29   you get it for free of your NS documents [TS]

00:39:31   of class yeah he tells what I think so I [TS]

00:39:33   mean and I think that's great you know [TS]

00:39:35   as as a user of rs.10 mean I'm not [TS]

00:39:37   really a Mac Developer but you know as a [TS]

00:39:39   user of OS 10 i think that's gonna be [TS]

00:39:40   awesome [TS]

00:39:41   yep picture-in-picture not a problem i [TS]

00:39:44   feel needs solving but always hungry [TS]

00:39:46   I mean yeah like for people to use full [TS]

00:39:48   screen is totally a problem solving this [TS]

00:39:50   full screen is like I would like to be [TS]

00:39:51   falsely and that's how I work i swipe on [TS]

00:39:53   my pad from side to side but sometimes i [TS]

00:39:55   also want to keep my eye on the game i [TS]

00:39:56   wish they had more than one picture in [TS]

00:39:57   picture so you could stack them up [TS]

00:39:59   of course you want more windows nothing [TS]

00:40:01   haha you got it you got a 5k imac you [TS]

00:40:04   can have four games like they should be [TS]

00:40:06   like Tyler the for football games from a [TS]

00:40:08   the ESPN yeah right [TS]

00:40:10   really I i think it would be it will be [TS]

00:40:12   nice because like so often i want to [TS]

00:40:15   have like a video going from usually to [TS]

00:40:18   youtube or in some occasions vimeo [TS]

00:40:20   usually youtube so i have this video [TS]

00:40:21   going and like I want to move it to the [TS]

00:40:24   side of the screen so I can do something [TS]

00:40:25   else at the same time or so i can watch [TS]

00:40:27   another window and you have to have the [TS]

00:40:30   you know it you know if you wanna do [TS]

00:40:31   that now with before picture in picture [TS]

00:40:32   on the Mac you have to have the entire [TS]

00:40:34   browser Chrome around that showing some [TS]

00:40:37   wear and kind of move the window in such [TS]

00:40:39   a way that you like you know you have it [TS]

00:40:40   off screen it's kind of its kind of [TS]

00:40:42   clunky now so this would be nice for [TS]

00:40:44   that too now that didn't think about the [TS]

00:40:46   full screen stuff that's a that's a very [TS]

00:40:48   good point let's see what else they do [TS]

00:40:50   the messages improvements which we'll [TS]

00:40:53   talk about in a minute comes to the mac [TS]

00:40:54   as well [TS]

00:40:57   I'm not most all Apple pay for the web [TS]

00:40:59   which is a kind of exciting and I don't [TS]

00:41:03   know i think that was most everything [TS]

00:41:04   that big like flagship features seem to [TS]

00:41:06   be Syria which is similarly solving a [TS]

00:41:08   problem i don't think i have but that [TS]

00:41:10   that really deep contextual search does [TS]

00:41:13   sound pretty interesting and I am [TS]

00:41:14   curious to try that [TS]

00:41:15   so even though they didn't announce it [TS]

00:41:17   at this segment this is the bar we talk [TS]

00:41:19   about the new file system because it was [TS]

00:41:22   only available on the mac right now [TS]

00:41:25   it was not it was not announced the [TS]

00:41:27   keynote I found out about it after [TS]

00:41:28   walking outside of the keynote when [TS]

00:41:30   everybody else found that you know the [TS]

00:41:32   updated WT sessions to show the secret [TS]

00:41:34   ones and section 701 was the one about [TS]

00:41:36   the new file system they never found the [TS]

00:41:37   developer documentation online didn't [TS]

00:41:40   even get as far as I'm aware and note in [TS]

00:41:42   one of the little word clouds and that's [TS]

00:41:44   mostly because even though there's going [TS]

00:41:47   to be sessions on this and this [TS]

00:41:48   technical documentation and it was [TS]

00:41:50   announced in the state of the union [TS]

00:41:52   this is not a feature around the [TS]

00:41:53   operating systems beta is that they [TS]

00:41:55   shipped and it's not going to be a [TS]

00:41:56   feature of any the operating systems [TS]

00:41:58   that that they ship in final acceptance [TS]

00:41:59   experimental form the new opera the new [TS]

00:42:02   file system will be for 2017 because as [TS]

00:42:04   we all know 2017 is the year the file [TS]

00:42:06   system but they announced that is it now [TS]

00:42:09   and they're getting people working on it [TS]

00:42:11   now [TS]

00:42:11   what the hell's the name of it it's got [TS]

00:42:13   a terrible day pfft it's called a pia [TS]

00:42:15   apfsds stands for Apple the P stands [TS]

00:42:17   full stands for pole i guess i don't [TS]

00:42:20   know [TS]

00:42:21   PU ll i don't know it's like Apple like [TS]

00:42:24   a ship PFS PFS is andrew filesystem and [TS]

00:42:29   ifs probably also anyway it's got a name [TS]

00:42:31   it's called a PFS it is only available [TS]

00:42:34   on the mac and you can do a limited [TS]

00:42:36   number of things that now you go so far [TS]

00:42:38   you will be on the platform read and [TS]

00:42:40   write you can't boot off of it now has [TS]

00:42:42   all sorts of limitations all which I [TS]

00:42:43   assume ur because like it's not done yet [TS]

00:42:45   right [TS]

00:42:45   and so this is how they're sort of [TS]

00:42:46   testing the waters with it and letting [TS]

00:42:49   people play with it [TS]

00:42:50   I mean they're also kinda like saving [TS]

00:42:51   people from themselves here like you [TS]

00:42:53   know it's not bootable and you can't [TS]

00:42:55   time machine within stuff because they [TS]

00:42:56   really don't want you to be installing a [TS]

00:42:58   beta file system on your main drive and [TS]

00:43:01   get with your only copy computed and you [TS]

00:43:03   know people would do that if they didn't [TS]

00:43:04   have these restrictions [TS]

00:43:05   yeah and it has [TS]

00:43:07   a lot of interesting features almost all [TS]

00:43:10   the ones i would expect it to have more [TS]

00:43:12   than that more than I had hoped because [TS]

00:43:14   i had heard things that made me think it [TS]

00:43:15   was gonna have too much force it's flash [TS]

00:43:16   only yeah which we expected and that's [TS]

00:43:19   great because it means they can optimize [TS]

00:43:20   for that case it has cloning files which [TS]

00:43:26   is you would think it's just not just [TS]

00:43:27   like hard links to files but it's not [TS]

00:43:28   because they're copy-on-write so you can [TS]

00:43:29   basically duplicate file in more or less [TS]

00:43:31   instantaneously and they will diverge [TS]

00:43:33   slowly are part of that is the same [TS]

00:43:36   underlying technology i'm assuming the [TS]

00:43:37   unit for snapshots which means you can [TS]

00:43:38   take a point I'm snapshot of the entire [TS]

00:43:40   file system you can I think in clone [TS]

00:43:42   entire file system i would assume you [TS]

00:43:45   can revert to a snapshot which they said [TS]

00:43:46   it's great for flashlights classrooms [TS]

00:43:48   where they can just you know have the [TS]

00:43:49   initial state and let the kids use [TS]

00:43:51   introverted it's also great for apple [TS]

00:43:52   stores i'm sure they're all of it where [TS]

00:43:54   they can at the end of the day revert [TS]

00:43:56   all the demo devices to their previous [TS]

00:43:57   state if you are a backup program having [TS]

00:44:00   a point I'm snapshot to work out which [TS]

00:44:01   is great and you know the fact that [TS]

00:44:03   doesn't work with time machine it's [TS]

00:44:04   because the new version of time machines [TS]

00:44:05   can take advantage of all these features [TS]

00:44:06   and be a million times better than used [TS]

00:44:08   to being it supports extended attributes [TS]

00:44:10   because it has two and this this Apple [TS]

00:44:13   documentation will put a link in the [TS]

00:44:14   show notes it basically goes through [TS]

00:44:16   like here's why hfs+ sucks and not so [TS]

00:44:18   many words and it goes through all the [TS]

00:44:19   things like oh hm s+ could do things [TS]

00:44:21   where your thing was inconsistent on [TS]

00:44:22   disk and has no atomic operations and [TS]

00:44:25   things wouldn't be committed so that [TS]

00:44:26   something happened at this point you [TS]

00:44:27   think you could corrupted they tried to [TS]

00:44:29   be nice about it but yeah and the [TS]

00:44:32   session description 471 is we're gonna [TS]

00:44:34   tell you why this file system is better [TS]

00:44:35   than hfs+ which is shooting fish in a [TS]

00:44:36   barrel but it's better fast directory [TS]

00:44:40   sizing never try to get the size of a [TS]

00:44:42   big folder and it is calculating and [TS]

00:44:44   everything like they have a way to that [TS]

00:44:45   you know atomic operations limited [TS]

00:44:47   atomic operations [TS]

00:44:49   this is all great stuff out being able [TS]

00:44:51   to make containers and put multiple [TS]

00:44:52   lines on the same container and having [TS]

00:44:53   them all see that side so I can set of [TS]

00:44:56   partitioning so you have a hundred gigs [TS]

00:44:57   you can put three volumes 100 gigs and [TS]

00:44:59   they all look like they're hundred gigs [TS]

00:45:00   are not designed hundreds of the space [TS]

00:45:02   and they're going to fight for it but [TS]

00:45:03   there's no like only divide the hundred [TS]

00:45:05   big partition up into you know 50 50 or [TS]

00:45:07   33 3333 it's just that's not how this [TS]

00:45:10   file system works its they could all [TS]

00:45:12   share the space and then they will [TS]

00:45:13   slowly accumulate into the space it [TS]

00:45:15   supports raid 10 and [TS]

00:45:17   just you know a concatenated volumes and [TS]

00:45:19   jbod where you just take a bunch of [TS]

00:45:22   disks and make one larger volume out of [TS]

00:45:23   it [TS]

00:45:24   the only real thing is missing and I [TS]

00:45:27   don't think it's something they can't [TS]

00:45:28   add later I hope is any facility for [TS]

00:45:31   data integrity at the file level to [TS]

00:45:33   account for bit rot so you have a bunch [TS]

00:45:34   of important files like your family [TS]

00:45:36   photos and you keep them around and keep [TS]

00:45:39   popping from this disc how do you know [TS]

00:45:40   that you did flip errors aren't solely [TS]

00:45:42   corrupting your files [TS]

00:45:43   the answer is for now at the file system [TS]

00:45:45   level you still don't but this seems [TS]

00:45:47   like a thoroughly modern file system and [TS]

00:45:50   the fact that feature doesn't exist now [TS]

00:45:52   I don't mind too much because all the [TS]

00:45:54   other things are doing it's like that [TS]

00:45:55   they're saying all the right things ok [TS]

00:45:57   at everything in this documentation says [TS]

00:45:59   modern sleek file system that's going to [TS]

00:46:02   enable UI features that are better will [TS]

00:46:04   make time machine better make backup [TS]

00:46:05   apps better will make it easier to roll [TS]

00:46:07   back to known good states like so many [TS]

00:46:10   nice friendly features can be built on [TS]

00:46:11   top of this file system this is what the [TS]

00:46:13   world is waiting for for a really long [TS]

00:46:15   time still upset there's no data [TS]

00:46:17   integrity but because it's nomas so [TS]

00:46:19   modern [TS]

00:46:20   I see no reason they can't add that [TS]

00:46:21   later for systems that can support the [TS]

00:46:23   cpu CPU overhead that's going to add so [TS]

00:46:25   as far as you can tell so far so good [TS]

00:46:27   two thumbs up [TS]

00:46:28   yes now i like it i'm happy the name is [TS]

00:46:31   stupid but you know then name is stupid [TS]

00:46:34   and no dead integrity which is which is [TS]

00:46:36   again it's not a small thing like I [TS]

00:46:37   talked about this past enemies like one [TS]

00:46:38   of the biggest reasons i want a new file [TS]

00:46:40   system all the other reasons are still [TS]

00:46:42   super important and it's just so great [TS]

00:46:45   to see apple finally moving on and like [TS]

00:46:47   Barbara said this is all platforms from [TS]

00:46:49   the watch all the way up to the mac pro [TS]

00:46:51   they never update that is the whole the [TS]

00:46:54   whole line they made a file system for [TS]

00:46:55   the future that spans their entire [TS]

00:46:57   product line and which is exactly what [TS]

00:47:00   you could hope for and like this is just [TS]

00:47:01   the first version look at all the crap [TS]

00:47:02   they had hfs+ and hid in there all [TS]

00:47:05   documentation like we don't have your [TS]

00:47:07   NHS plus extended attributes were [TS]

00:47:08   attacked on wasn't that crappy well here [TS]

00:47:10   is not tacked-on we thought of it from [TS]

00:47:11   the beginning it's a super important [TS]

00:47:13   feature good job guys [TS]

00:47:14   so I'm I'm excited I'm happy I'm [TS]

00:47:17   optimistic I'm ready for 2017 real-time [TS]

00:47:20   followed by the way a PFS is optimized [TS]

00:47:22   for flash / SSD storage and can be used [TS]

00:47:25   with to do with traditional hard disk [TS]

00:47:27   drives so that's interesting that's I'm [TS]

00:47:29   kind of surprised that they can even [TS]

00:47:30   call [TS]

00:47:31   did that I just that because you can [TS]

00:47:32   make like in the current uh command line [TS]

00:47:34   tools you can make like an image i got a [TS]

00:47:36   volume container image like a disk image [TS]

00:47:39   of it i am assuming people here with it [TS]

00:47:41   oh and one thing we didn't touch on as [TS]

00:47:42   one of the current limitations is [TS]

00:47:43   case-sensitive only i'm not quite sure [TS]

00:47:45   what they'll do their because a lot of [TS]

00:47:47   the unicode normalization and case [TS]

00:47:49   folding comparison crap and hfs+ is a [TS]

00:47:51   reason a lot of people hated because [TS]

00:47:54   it's complicated and doesn't do what [TS]

00:47:56   people expect and it's kind of a [TS]

00:47:59   non-deterministic but it's it's [TS]

00:48:00   complicated know what exactly is going [TS]

00:48:02   to do in terms of this is like when you [TS]

00:48:03   named files what what is the filename [TS]

00:48:06   and hfs+ really complicated rules about [TS]

00:48:08   what a file name is case sensitive or [TS]

00:48:10   insensitive [TS]

00:48:11   this is case-sensitive only for now i'm [TS]

00:48:13   assuming they will implement case [TS]

00:48:15   insensitivity but it's still I think an [TS]

00:48:16   open question will the implant case in [TS]

00:48:18   sensitivity in the same weird way that [TS]

00:48:19   is implemented hfs+ and by the way each [TS]

00:48:22   of us on iOS is has always been case [TS]

00:48:24   sensitive [TS]

00:48:25   I think so for and probably for [TS]

00:48:27   performance and simplicity reasons [TS]

00:48:29   yeah like it I mean I'm no one sees the [TS]

00:48:30   processing on the phone so it's fine but [TS]

00:48:32   yea case-sensitive is simpler to [TS]

00:48:33   implement and if they do way with the [TS]

00:48:35   filename normalization stuff will put [TS]

00:48:38   some show about links for unicode [TS]

00:48:39   organization we don't have time to [TS]

00:48:40   explain now but if they do away with [TS]

00:48:42   that and just make it a giant bag of [TS]

00:48:43   bytes and leave it up to the OS that [TS]

00:48:45   would be one easy enough solution or if [TS]

00:48:48   they come up with a more streamlined [TS]

00:48:49   modern way to do their case folding for [TS]

00:48:52   the case insensitive things and and [TS]

00:48:53   handle that I don't know I not quite [TS]

00:48:55   sure what to do but a lot of the scary [TS]

00:48:57   limitations are just because this isn't [TS]

00:48:58   done yet and this is only sort of a a [TS]

00:49:01   toy for people to play with on the mac [TS]

00:49:03   but it will be rolling out everywhere [TS]

00:49:04   next year so I have one other important [TS]

00:49:07   questions so I i do not have to get to [TS]

00:49:09   WTC I'm going two layers i was sitting [TS]

00:49:12   in my hotel room streaming both the [TS]

00:49:13   keynote and studying with a handful of [TS]

00:49:15   other people and let's say the Union it [TS]

00:49:17   happened that almost everyone in the [TS]

00:49:19   room was a developer and today the Union [TS]

00:49:21   they said okay it's time to talk about [TS]

00:49:23   the new file system and literally [TS]

00:49:25   everyone in the room of which there were [TS]

00:49:26   like six of us ever all of them verbally [TS]

00:49:29   the same moment such thing as I'm [TS]

00:49:32   sitting there watching the the talk [TS]

00:49:33   people are on Twitter saying oh my god [TS]

00:49:36   there was a ding and I thought that I [TS]

00:49:38   heard you I heard you in your room right [TS]

00:49:40   and I thought that's funny huh [TS]

00:49:41   and and then I realized no no these [TS]

00:49:43   people are not being funny there there [TS]

00:49:45   was a day is that a truth is that true [TS]

00:49:48   was there a ding in the room there was a [TS]

00:49:51   day in the room did it come from PA no [TS]

00:49:54   interesting but there was a ding there [TS]

00:49:57   was a ding in the room next up let's [TS]

00:50:00   talk about filesystems alright that's [TS]

00:50:06   magnificent and i am very impressed [TS]

00:50:09   so I just want to put that out there [TS]

00:50:10   that someone had the wherewithal to [TS]

00:50:14   either simulate or bring an actual bell [TS]

00:50:18   with which to ding when when it was time [TS]

00:50:21   to talk about the file system to the [TS]

00:50:22   personal estate here could you tell that [TS]

00:50:23   that that's going to come out of the [TS]

00:50:25   video first of all and second of all [TS]

00:50:27   it's a big place [TS]

00:50:28   I think the only people who heard it [TS]

00:50:29   with people who are in the proximity of [TS]

00:50:31   the day I don't know some people on [TS]

00:50:32   Twitter were saying they were like [TS]

00:50:33   second row or something well let's sort [TS]

00:50:36   of this way the reaction in the room [TS]

00:50:37   shows that some people know what the [TS]

00:50:39   thing was about other people didn't know [TS]

00:50:40   and didn't care but that's fair that but [TS]

00:50:42   did you notice to the person to the the [TS]

00:50:44   person speaking at the time did they [TS]

00:50:45   even notice the powers now I don't that [TS]

00:50:47   I don't think so anyway I just want to [TS]

00:50:50   say for the record I did not make the [TS]

00:50:51   ding yeah well god knows i didn't [TS]

00:50:53   because I was married [TS]

00:50:54   well somebody spent eight dollars very [TS]

00:50:56   well to make that ding approximately [TS]

00:50:58   when we start again I'm just think i [TS]

00:51:00   would never an interrupter disrupt a [TS]

00:51:02   live presentation by apple in that way [TS]

00:51:05   no of course not you wouldn't I mean you [TS]

00:51:06   know what I would not do that fair [TS]

00:51:07   enough uh anything else on macros oh we [TS]

00:51:11   forgot one more mac OS it doesn't [TS]

00:51:13   support my mac yes right there haha John [TS]

00:51:16   has to get a new mac pro to run the new [TS]

00:51:18   l-system it's amazingly they stopped [TS]

00:51:20   supporting my mac and i wondered why and [TS]

00:51:22   asked Marco he came up with what I think [TS]

00:51:23   is the actual answer pretty much on the [TS]

00:51:25   spot [TS]

00:51:25   why won't they support the 2008 macro [TS]

00:51:27   which is my mouth they support the 2009 [TS]

00:51:29   mac pro their 64-bit x86 machines there [TS]

00:51:32   plenty fast it's not like my machine is [TS]

00:51:33   too slow to run Mac OS Sierra what's the [TS]

00:51:36   deal why is my mac not supported and [TS]

00:51:38   then tomorrow came up with and then [TS]

00:51:40   until I hear someone say otherwise [TS]

00:51:41   sounds like the answer is my cpu doesn't [TS]

00:51:44   have the Intel like decryption focused [TS]

00:51:47   instructions i figured with the [TS]

00:51:49   colleagues at apx or something [TS]

00:51:50   I i don't know i forgot it's like like [TS]

00:51:52   the hardware aes acceleration stuff like [TS]

00:51:55   like the Intel and instructions to the [TS]

00:51:57   CPUs somewhere around that time and I [TS]

00:51:59   think you fall on the wrong side of that [TS]

00:52:00   that right and so the lot of the arm you [TS]

00:52:02   know the arm system-on-chips have these [TS]

00:52:04   instructions a dick modern x86 CPUs have [TS]

00:52:08   these instructions encryption by the way [TS]

00:52:10   to mention this for the new Apple [TS]

00:52:12   filesystem encryption is built in both [TS]

00:52:13   thought full volume encryption and also [TS]

00:52:15   profile encryption like iOS users but [TS]

00:52:17   this is built into the file system [TS]

00:52:19   instead of built on top of it like you [TS]

00:52:20   can totally tell this is a filesystem [TS]

00:52:22   made for apples devices these are [TS]

00:52:23   exactly the features they need that they [TS]

00:52:24   previously able to implement on top of [TS]

00:52:26   the fossils and now they're built into [TS]

00:52:27   it you can run it without encryption how [TS]

00:52:29   it requires encryption but for the sake [TS]

00:52:31   of simplicity of implementation they [TS]

00:52:32   basically said we're not going to put [TS]

00:52:35   like a conditional code and have a pepe [TS]

00:52:37   have a code paths that doesn't use we're [TS]

00:52:40   not going to like disabled encryption on [TS]

00:52:42   2008 max and we're not going to save you [TS]

00:52:44   do the criminal do a second coat that [TS]

00:52:45   doesn't use those instructors said fine [TS]

00:52:47   just not support i mean it's an [TS]

00:52:48   eight-year-old computer at this point [TS]

00:52:49   totally understandable luckily i have [TS]

00:52:51   2009 macro at work so i'll be ok there [TS]

00:52:53   will be able to use it but yeah I [TS]

00:52:55   stopped supporting my mac with the [TS]

00:52:57   current version of the mac operating [TS]

00:52:58   system so my my 2008 mac pro was able to [TS]

00:53:02   run every version of mac OS 10 OS 10 [TS]

00:53:05   more or less but not like it's not every [TS]

00:53:08   person's 10-0 didn't have a x86 version [TS]

00:53:10   yeah I don't think you could run any of [TS]

00:53:11   them until what ten yeah shell 10 until [TS]

00:53:14   the x86 transition anyway the point is [TS]

00:53:16   my mac is not supported and they did not [TS]

00:53:18   release new mac for me to buy so we'll [TS]

00:53:20   keep watching on that front [TS]

00:53:22   oh god I don't even want to think about [TS]

00:53:24   so what do you want to do like you know [TS]

00:53:26   this fall and it becomes the new version [TS]

00:53:28   you just never going to have the new [TS]

00:53:29   version OS time going to install it at [TS]

00:53:31   work and I'm not gonna install it at [TS]

00:53:32   home and we'll see how long that it that [TS]

00:53:34   remains terrible [TS]

00:53:35   wow I mean by that point they could have [TS]

00:53:37   announced new macro that i order I don't [TS]

00:53:39   know but it's not it's not an issue that [TS]

00:53:40   I have to deal with for a couple months [TS]

00:53:43   yet i love that this is like this is [TS]

00:53:45   this is like the the roller coaster of [TS]

00:53:47   Syracuse keynotes it's like you know you [TS]

00:53:50   have like amazing filesystem news like [TS]

00:53:53   it that you know no one expected a new [TS]

00:53:55   file system to ever happen just like us [TS]

00:53:57   with came at like so i said you okay [TS]

00:53:59   yeah but no one else like you know [TS]

00:54:01   you've been waiting for this for like [TS]

00:54:02   forever [TS]

00:54:02   it finally happened but also there's [TS]

00:54:05   always a party yeah [TS]

00:54:06   also going to force you to finally [TS]

00:54:08   upgrade your back for that's not bad use [TS]

00:54:10   that that's good news all they're gonna [TS]

00:54:12   do is make me mad like that's fine like [TS]

00:54:14   there again I don't think there's [TS]

00:54:15   there's a perfectly valid decision to [TS]

00:54:17   not support an eight-year-old computer [TS]

00:54:19   like that but totally like it's fine i'm [TS]

00:54:21   i'm i'm not upset about that at all [TS]

00:54:23   I it will be handled know it's kind of [TS]

00:54:25   it's kind of amazing it made it this far [TS]

00:54:27   yeah so leaving aside hardware gripes [TS]

00:54:31   what's the next bit of low-hanging fruit [TS]

00:54:35   the file system has been conquered [TS]

00:54:36   Copeland's been conquered or preventing [TS]

00:54:38   home 2010 with Swift has been conferred [TS]

00:54:40   conquered what's the next bit of [TS]

00:54:42   low-hanging fruit that you're really [TS]

00:54:43   really waiting for you fix the finder [TS]

00:54:45   I mean especially oh no don't don't get [TS]

00:54:49   us to come on let you know what you're [TS]

00:54:51   saying i gotta find the one that finally [TS]

00:54:53   I want to kind of gave up on because it [TS]

00:54:54   becomes less and less relevant to fix it [TS]

00:54:56   and you know so if they can make it [TS]

00:54:57   irrelevant it's fine and there are still [TS]

00:55:00   many things that I wish they could fix [TS]

00:55:02   about it at the whole show we can talk [TS]

00:55:03   about it some other time [TS]

00:55:04   that's I mean that's the big one from [TS]

00:55:06   way back when but if I have forced to [TS]

00:55:08   come up with an entirely new list like [TS]

00:55:10   you know I can still great but complain [TS]

00:55:13   about services forever like I'm some [TS]

00:55:14   work i will not run out of things to [TS]

00:55:15   complain about it before [TS]

00:55:17   oh no I don't run out of things to [TS]

00:55:19   complain about but I am curious to hear [TS]

00:55:20   what your top four complaints are these [TS]

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00:55:51   just plugging this little tiny adapter [TS]

00:55:52   into the diagnostic board takes seconds [TS]

00:55:54   to do now automatically to keep track of [TS]

00:55:56   your fuel mileage and your vehicle [TS]

00:55:58   Health you can even see what your check [TS]

00:55:59   engine light really means so if you [TS]

00:56:01   haven't you know some kind of error code [TS]

00:56:02   in your car you just gotta check out [TS]

00:56:04   usually well this can actually tell you [TS]

00:56:05   exactly what's wrong so you can tell [TS]

00:56:07   whether you need to go to the shopping [TS]

00:56:08   this fixed immediately or whether it can [TS]

00:56:10   wait a little bit [TS]

00:56:11   they can also integrate with your nest [TS]

00:56:12   thermostat and all sorts of other [TS]

00:56:14   services because it integrates with a [TS]

00:56:17   whole app platform [TS]

00:56:18   and if this then that you can do all [TS]

00:56:20   sorts of great stuff you can do things [TS]

00:56:22   like integrate expense reports for your [TS]

00:56:24   trips and of course once you have if [TS]

00:56:26   this then that ifttt you can get all [TS]

00:56:28   sorts of crazy stuff to go on you can [TS]

00:56:30   have your nest automatically turn on [TS]

00:56:32   when you get home you know there's so [TS]

00:56:33   many amazing things you can do with [TS]

00:56:35   technology and your car automatic let [TS]

00:56:37   you do that and all this is available [TS]

00:56:39   with no monthly fees and no [TS]

00:56:41   subscriptions this is not a service that [TS]

00:56:43   you're buying you're just buying the [TS]

00:56:44   device [TS]

00:56:45   no selling of data no services no [TS]

00:56:47   subscriptions you just buy the device [TS]

00:56:49   and that's it [TS]

00:56:50   no monthly fees and normally this device [TS]

00:56:52   is a hundred bucks when you use our [TS]

00:56:54   special code ATP 0315 you will save [TS]

00:56:58   twenty percent off that's 180 bucks go [TS]

00:57:00   to automatic calm / ATP for more [TS]

00:57:02   information and to purchase use offer [TS]

00:57:04   code ATP 03 15 to save twenty percent [TS]

00:57:08   off the regular price so just 80 bucks [TS]

00:57:10   but automatic calm / ATP thank you for [TS]

00:57:13   your support [TS]

00:57:13   automatic iOS 10 it's a thing I always [TS]

00:57:20   xkc oh my bad iOS accent that's that's [TS]

00:57:22   right it's thing it looks good it [TS]

00:57:25   actually looks different it has about [TS]

00:57:28   this earlier yet it like they they [TS]

00:57:30   refresh the design like a like a [TS]

00:57:32   half-step yes i'll put like it's not [TS]

00:57:34   like a total redesign the system but [TS]

00:57:35   it's like a point five like the of the [TS]

00:57:37   ios7 you know style design which I like [TS]

00:57:40   they they have made many of the fonts a [TS]

00:57:43   little bit heavier weight [TS]

00:57:44   they've introduced into like super-heavy [TS]

00:57:46   bold for San Francisco that's in use in [TS]

00:57:49   in the news app in music to really like [TS]

00:57:52   massively draw attention to headline [TS]

00:57:53   which i don't think i like but we'll see [TS]

00:57:55   we'll see in use but you know overall [TS]

00:57:58   around the system there's like you know [TS]

00:58:00   little improvements to the text to make [TS]

00:58:01   it a little bit thick a little bit heavy [TS]

00:58:02   little bit more bowl to mix makes it [TS]

00:58:03   easier to read for a lot of people [TS]

00:58:04   moving on from text though the big [TS]

00:58:07   change is they've introduced buttons [TS]

00:58:08   that like button which is awesome land [TS]

00:58:11   and windows look like Windows like your [TS]

00:58:13   little with its yeah everything's like [TS]

00:58:14   Natalie's little rounded window like [TS]

00:58:16   things which I like this new style a lot [TS]

00:58:19   you know I've I like this design i like [TS]

00:58:22   that Apple's moving it forward I think [TS]

00:58:23   this will prove to be more usable then [TS]

00:58:25   like the pure ios7 looks because things [TS]

00:58:28   are going to have shapes again and [TS]

00:58:30   texas started to become more legible and [TS]

00:58:32   this is all good stuff so I i think you [TS]

00:58:35   know i have not actually used the beta [TS]

00:58:36   yet we will see how this is in practice [TS]

00:58:38   but tentatively I give the design [TS]

00:58:41   improvements whatever comes up that i [TS]

00:58:43   can give ya lock the lock screen changes [TS]

00:58:45   in particular likey its Apple finally [TS]

00:58:47   not giving up on but thinking better of [TS]

00:58:50   like their attempt they always wanted to [TS]

00:58:52   say you can have an arbitrary image and [TS]

00:58:53   we will display text on top of it in a [TS]

00:58:55   minimal way there remains readable it's [TS]

00:58:57   really hard to do that without deciding [TS]

00:58:59   having an algorithm kind of like their [TS]

00:59:01   itunes like a lot more thing like should [TS]

00:59:02   be dark in the background noise like [TS]

00:59:03   text should be light in the background [TS]

00:59:05   use dark text and what about they love [TS]

00:59:07   stuff showing through and like it was [TS]

00:59:08   all about usability would say use an [TS]

00:59:10   opaque white background with dark text [TS]

00:59:12   on top of it that's easy to read like [TS]

00:59:13   they don't want to do that so they're [TS]

00:59:14   creeping up on it so they said no we [TS]

00:59:16   won't [TS]

00:59:16   we're not even trying to mess with your [TS]

00:59:17   background anymore we're going to put [TS]

00:59:18   these white essentially windows on top [TS]

00:59:20   of it or not [TS]

00:59:21   opaque white you can still see stuff the [TS]

00:59:23   room with the whole vibrancy like but [TS]

00:59:25   it's just it's just more readable it's [TS]

00:59:28   clear what the units are it's clear [TS]

00:59:30   where they begin and end the text on [TS]

00:59:31   them is easier to read because it is [TS]

00:59:33   dark text on a white background always [TS]

00:59:34   it doesn't depend on the thing that's [TS]

00:59:35   behind it and those are all good [TS]

00:59:38   decisions especially if they're going to [TS]

00:59:40   add functionality that screen which they [TS]

00:59:41   are to make it a more straightforward [TS]

00:59:44   you I and to give up on the dream of it [TS]

00:59:47   being like this beautiful text that is [TS]

00:59:49   laced onto your image like minimally as [TS]

00:59:52   a Victor's been sprinkled there with [TS]

00:59:53   Stardust and in practice that what that [TS]

00:59:56   translates to is hard three can't tell [TS]

00:59:57   what the hell's going on [TS]

00:59:58   yep the it [TS]

00:59:58   yep the it [TS]

01:00:00   lock screen now has widgets on it and [TS]

01:00:01   they actually literally use the word [TS]

01:00:03   widgets which I thought was a little [TS]

01:00:04   surprising I it's interesting that what [TS]

01:00:07   they basically did was they took what [TS]

01:00:09   used to be your today view widget or [TS]

01:00:11   notification center with you know [TS]

01:00:12   whatever you call those things and [TS]

01:00:14   they're not kind of sticking those in [TS]

01:00:15   more places which like you know I never [TS]

01:00:17   thought it was worth overcast having a [TS]

01:00:19   two-day view widget because there's no [TS]

01:00:21   one's going into the today we find out [TS]

01:00:22   what's up with overcast today where [TS]

01:00:24   exactly like it's not it doesn't didn't [TS]

01:00:25   think it was that kind of app and I [TS]

01:00:27   personally never used today widgets [TS]

01:00:29   because I don't look at my today view so [TS]

01:00:32   you know it but now they're putting [TS]

01:00:33   those now in the lock screen they're [TS]

01:00:35   putting those on 3d touch when you [TS]

01:00:37   preview a nap so now this is going to [TS]

01:00:39   give way more apps a big reason to have [TS]

01:00:42   Notification Center winner to have these [TS]

01:00:44   witches you know now it's no longer [TS]

01:00:45   notification center with international [TS]

01:00:46   law 280 now it's just your apps widget [TS]

01:00:49   and they can put those in more places [TS]

01:00:50   and as both a developer and a user i'm [TS]

01:00:54   looking forward to this sounds great [TS]

01:00:55   they did a lot of stuff of the lock [TS]

01:00:56   screen to make it so that you don't [TS]

01:00:57   accidentally dismiss it with a touch [TS]

01:00:59   thing I thought I saw someone tweet that [TS]

01:01:00   maybe this is just the beta but instead [TS]

01:01:03   of just placing your thumb over the [TS]

01:01:05   touch ID to like to unlock it that you [TS]

01:01:08   actually have to press the button in you [TS]

01:01:10   can't just tap the touch ID that to get [TS]

01:01:12   through that screen i believe that i [TS]

01:01:14   believe that was ryan jones who said [TS]

01:01:15   that I believe that's correct from [TS]

01:01:17   whatever when it was kind of it's kind [TS]

01:01:18   of unclear as to like you know what [TS]

01:01:19   sequence of buttons you have to hit or [TS]

01:01:21   not have to do that but that's roughly [TS]

01:01:22   correct right and the whole thing where [TS]

01:01:23   you don't touch anybody just raise it up [TS]

01:01:24   the table and i will show you the lock [TS]

01:01:26   screen because they want you to do more [TS]

01:01:27   in the lock screen is going to be more [TS]

01:01:28   information there hopefully you can [TS]

01:01:30   customize it more and so they want a way [TS]

01:01:32   to get to that without you actually [TS]

01:01:34   unlocking it it's kind of weird that [TS]

01:01:35   they have like designed out all the [TS]

01:01:38   delays which are basically bad but the [TS]

01:01:40   people would you know those delays had [TS]

01:01:42   become part of the UI for people who [TS]

01:01:43   would be dealing with their phones and [TS]

01:01:45   they don't want to put the delays back [TS]

01:01:47   in because unlocking your phone real [TS]

01:01:48   fast when you want to pick it up [TS]

01:01:49   actually use it as a great feature they [TS]

01:01:51   still wanted to find a way to let you [TS]

01:01:53   use your lock screen so hopefully we'll [TS]

01:01:54   be able to develop new habits and [TS]

01:01:56   hopefully the sort of raised feature and [TS]

01:01:58   pressing the button will work itself out [TS]

01:02:00   into a situation where you can get into [TS]

01:02:03   your phone as fast as possible but never [TS]

01:02:04   frustrated by accidentally getting into [TS]

01:02:06   your phone and really you want to work [TS]

01:02:07   with your new fancy lockscreen yeah [TS]

01:02:10   and this is a this solves this raised to [TS]

01:02:12   view or raised awake i think they call [TS]

01:02:14   it it's also a problem that i actually [TS]

01:02:16   don't have because I I'm really good at [TS]

01:02:18   hitting the side button in order to see [TS]

01:02:19   my notifications but i am the only [TS]

01:02:21   person him or one of the only people i [TS]

01:02:23   know that doesn't get annoyed by the way [TS]

01:02:25   the new touch ID works and so this is [TS]

01:02:28   clearly solving a problem for the [TS]

01:02:30   overwhelming majority of people wear [TS]

01:02:32   like you said they they mash down on the [TS]

01:02:33   home button suddenly they're right [TS]

01:02:35   through the lock screen and they didn't [TS]

01:02:36   get to see any of the notifications that [TS]

01:02:38   they wanted to see and I do that [TS]

01:02:39   occasionally but generally speaking [TS]

01:02:40   pretty good at avoiding it [TS]

01:02:42   what was interesting though and as a [TS]

01:02:44   potential security issue is you could [TS]

01:02:46   interact with these widgets on the [TS]

01:02:48   lockscreen a pretty pretty interesting [TS]

01:02:50   like you could respond to a text message [TS]

01:02:52   for example right on the lockscreen [TS]

01:02:53   you're letting someone take your locked [TS]

01:02:54   phone and respond as if they're you like [TS]

01:02:56   I'm not quite sure right how this all [TS]

01:02:59   works and you did not this what I'm [TS]

01:03:01   about to describe was clearly not shown [TS]

01:03:03   during the demo but what I would suspect [TS]

01:03:05   is if you ever have your phone in its [TS]

01:03:09   locked and you swipe up and go to the [TS]

01:03:10   camera to take a picture and then you [TS]

01:03:11   want to go to your old pictures he had [TS]

01:03:13   taken previously in order to do or to [TS]

01:03:15   send one in order to do that it has like [TS]

01:03:18   an interstitial if you will saying ok [TS]

01:03:20   enter your passcode or idea what have [TS]

01:03:21   you in order to perform an action like [TS]

01:03:23   that anything that's destructive or that [TS]

01:03:26   involves something leaving the phone i [TS]

01:03:28   would guess that the same sort of thing [TS]

01:03:30   would happen here but without question [TS]

01:03:33   that is not what they showed during the [TS]

01:03:34   demo [TS]

01:03:34   yeah and the same thing speaking of the [TS]

01:03:36   widgets like of doing more stuff from [TS]

01:03:38   the lock screen the same kind of [TS]

01:03:39   situation present a problem presents [TS]

01:03:41   itself there's like to make the [TS]

01:03:43   lockscreen more useful you want people [TS]

01:03:45   to be able to do more things but to do [TS]

01:03:46   more things to show more information [TS]

01:03:48   that shouldn't be on lockscreen I don't [TS]

01:03:50   wanna yeah imagine you have these rich [TS]

01:03:53   widgets they could show you all sorts of [TS]

01:03:54   contextual information about your day [TS]

01:03:55   and things that have happened to [TS]

01:03:56   different applications do you want [TS]

01:03:57   anyone else to see that when they raise [TS]

01:03:59   your phone but that's why on the mac a [TS]

01:04:00   lot of the sort of notification center [TS]

01:04:02   stuff says hey [TS]

01:04:03   should the show on the lock screen [TS]

01:04:04   should not i'm sure the same things will [TS]

01:04:05   be on iOS but it's it's a type of [TS]

01:04:08   granularity even I have trouble deciding [TS]

01:04:09   like going to reach individual app and [TS]

01:04:11   saying do I want Sean lockscreen its [TS]

01:04:12   kind of useful but then what if someone [TS]

01:04:13   comes by my mac and sees a message my [TS]

01:04:15   wife that's like floating in a corner in [TS]

01:04:17   a box that I don't want to [TS]

01:04:18   you know I don't know it's it's [TS]

01:04:20   difficult privacy wise like I think what [TS]

01:04:22   Apple is creeping up on slowly slowly [TS]

01:04:24   slowly is a screen on your phone that is [TS]

01:04:28   not a springboard that is not the big [TS]

01:04:30   grid of icons that has a bunch of [TS]

01:04:32   information that you can customize the [TS]

01:04:34   third party apps can contribute to I [TS]

01:04:36   don't think the lock screen is that [TS]

01:04:37   screen [TS]

01:04:38   I think that's another screen android [TS]

01:04:39   users and tell me exactly what screen is [TS]

01:04:41   like going to have real widgets that [TS]

01:04:42   don't have to be the full width of the [TS]

01:04:43   thing that you can customize and have [TS]

01:04:44   sort of like a like a dashboard if you [TS]

01:04:46   will for the phone that that you [TS]

01:04:49   customized to contain all this [TS]

01:04:50   information and that's not really the [TS]

01:04:52   lock screen so i think they'll arrive at [TS]

01:04:54   that eventually but they're not there [TS]

01:04:56   yet and right now there is making [TS]

01:04:57   lockscreen better than what i think is [TS]

01:04:58   good [TS]

01:04:59   yeah a couple other quick hits and then [TS]

01:05:01   there's some other big ones maps looks [TS]

01:05:04   improved the term better the [TS]

01:05:06   turn-by-turn looked a lot nicer to me [TS]

01:05:09   the traffic that instead of doing little [TS]

01:05:11   dots it's like it's an actual highlight [TS]

01:05:13   which looks better in zoom out without [TS]

01:05:14   fighting with your goddamn phone right [TS]

01:05:17   now how many times I thought with a home [TS]

01:05:18   in like seven fingers on the screen [TS]

01:05:19   stays zoom [TS]

01:05:21   no I didn't see with our doors yeah I [TS]

01:05:23   completely agree with you [TS]

01:05:25   they also did a very cool things I think [TS]

01:05:27   ways or has already done for years but [TS]

01:05:29   if you're not about to make a turn the [TS]

01:05:32   zoom wait way in and if you're not going [TS]

01:05:34   to make a turn for a while it'll zoom [TS]

01:05:36   way out which I really really like [TS]

01:05:37   that's nice [TS]

01:05:38   they also had some contextual stuff a [TS]

01:05:41   lot of this a lot of today's [TS]

01:05:43   announcements were about trying to infer [TS]

01:05:45   to context for many of the operations [TS]

01:05:48   are doing and it's not just wanted two [TS]

01:05:49   maps and that actually brings me nicely [TS]

01:05:50   to Syria improvements they touted a lot [TS]

01:05:54   of different Syria improvements [TS]

01:05:55   including a serie a p.i and one of the [TS]

01:05:58   things that I thought was most [TS]

01:05:59   interesting about the Serie A p I was [TS]

01:06:01   that they said without saying that this [TS]

01:06:04   is all natural language and kind of [TS]

01:06:07   implied that unlike alexa which I've not [TS]

01:06:09   used to be completely fair but I've [TS]

01:06:11   understood to be and I think one of you [TS]

01:06:13   guys actually said it to be very much [TS]

01:06:15   like a command-line answer that [TS]

01:06:16   exactly so it's not what series is not a [TS]

01:06:20   command line series not just a command [TS]

01:06:22   line where you have to do you know [TS]

01:06:24   subject-verb action or whatever the PSAP [TS]

01:06:26   it's more flexible and tax it except [TS]

01:06:28   right and actually the state of the [TS]

01:06:29   union when they go when [TS]

01:06:31   went through the nuts-and-bolts about [TS]

01:06:32   how that works from a developer [TS]

01:06:33   perspective one of the things they said [TS]

01:06:35   in so many words was hey listen this [TS]

01:06:38   could happen [TS]

01:06:39   the this same command that you're trying [TS]

01:06:42   to perform could be verbalized in one of [TS]

01:06:45   six different ways and that's on us to [TS]

01:06:47   figure out into extract what the actuals [TS]

01:06:50   if they had the different components of [TS]

01:06:52   assyria command forget they are offhand [TS]

01:06:53   but whatever those components are it's [TS]

01:06:55   awesome allan appel to extract what [TS]

01:06:58   those particular like the verb the [TS]

01:07:00   subject the action whatever are and we [TS]

01:07:02   will give that to you developers so that [TS]

01:07:04   means it's on Apple to parse out how [TS]

01:07:07   exactly is the user structures that [TS]

01:07:09   sentence which assuming it works is how [TS]

01:07:12   I think it should work but that's a big [TS]

01:07:15   assumption that's what the intent system [TS]

01:07:17   is about and that's why it's limited to [TS]

01:07:18   certain kinds of applications i would [TS]

01:07:19   imagine it's because serie determines [TS]

01:07:22   the intent and of like what is this [TS]

01:07:24   person trying to do and then creates a [TS]

01:07:26   structured meshes message for that [TS]

01:07:28   intended action so the intended action [TS]

01:07:30   is some kind of messaging that's the one [TS]

01:07:32   they showed like it's like there's a [TS]

01:07:33   recipient there's the content of the [TS]

01:07:35   message and maybe a few other bits and [TS]

01:07:37   it gives the application that structured [TS]

01:07:40   information the application is no idea [TS]

01:07:41   what you said on you know you can get [TS]

01:07:42   that information from the application [TS]

01:07:43   but because it's an application says I [TS]

01:07:45   handle you know if someone if the intent [TS]

01:07:48   is to message somebody that's the thing [TS]

01:07:49   that I can do so [TS]

01:07:51   Siri will figure out you're trying to [TS]

01:07:52   send a message you're trying to send [TS]

01:07:54   this person you try to send it with this [TS]

01:07:55   app and then will hand off to the app [TS]

01:07:57   here is the information here's here's [TS]

01:07:59   the users intent they want they want to [TS]

01:08:01   talk to you we chat or whatever they [TS]

01:08:03   want to send to this person and here's [TS]

01:08:04   the message and that's why you have to [TS]

01:08:06   have structured like the white can't be [TS]

01:08:08   for all apps like oh I just want to make [TS]

01:08:09   it happen if someone says I want my have [TS]

01:08:11   to do that no it has to be one of the [TS]

01:08:12   intense that they support i don't know [TS]

01:08:14   how many different intensities important [TS]

01:08:15   it's a limited set of like it like say [TS]

01:08:17   five or six so it's right here so they [TS]

01:08:19   announced that the following are [TS]

01:08:21   supported in Serie kit messaging apps [TS]

01:08:23   avoid calling payments ride booking [TS]

01:08:26   photo search and workouts and that's it [TS]

01:08:28   all only those scents and each one of [TS]

01:08:30   those things has a structure of the [TS]

01:08:31   message that the application has to be [TS]

01:08:33   ready to handle and Cirie handles the [TS]

01:08:35   i'll figure out what they said a bunch [TS]

01:08:36   of crap and what they mean is I want you [TS]

01:08:38   application to do this thing and it's [TS]

01:08:40   one of the short list of supported [TS]

01:08:42   things which is its limiting [TS]

01:08:44   because you can't say oh I have had a [TS]

01:08:46   game and I want people to say i want you [TS]

01:08:48   know plz food all the blood are you know [TS]

01:08:51   I challenge John a game but nobody would [TS]

01:08:53   even like something within the world of [TS]

01:08:54   you of your appt like you know up the [TS]

01:08:56   change armor put on the good armor on [TS]

01:08:59   character whatever like you know was in [TS]

01:09:00   Destiny's would understand if you want [TS]

01:09:03   to do this not gonna have integration [TS]

01:09:04   with destiny but yeah like I imagined [TS]

01:09:06   something that it only made sense in the [TS]

01:09:08   realm of your game you can't support [TS]

01:09:10   that because you have there in the [TS]

01:09:11   series a p.i you have no no facility to [TS]

01:09:14   to say what you want you know I want [TS]

01:09:17   people to say this and I want this to [TS]

01:09:18   happen that's not how it works at all so [TS]

01:09:19   this system is much more flexible but [TS]

01:09:20   also more limited and it allows people [TS]

01:09:22   to add series support without knowing [TS]

01:09:26   anything about how Syria works are [TS]

01:09:27   carrying how it works or even carrying [TS]

01:09:28   that they use Siri because an intent can [TS]

01:09:30   be expressed by anything and intent can [TS]

01:09:33   be expressed by hand signal by sending [TS]

01:09:34   an email to yourself by putting text [TS]

01:09:36   messages in by waving your arm like your [TS]

01:09:38   application has no idea how the intent [TS]

01:09:40   was expressed by the user is totally [TS]

01:09:42   divorced from which i think is super [TS]

01:09:43   smart but it's also going to mean that [TS]

01:09:45   the rollout of series going to be [TS]

01:09:46   limited and I think it's fine for it to [TS]

01:09:48   be limited especially since the classes [TS]

01:09:49   they chose are good common classes of [TS]

01:09:52   applications [TS]

01:09:53   I'm sure this will expand outward just [TS]

01:09:55   like extension points have expanded [TS]

01:09:57   outward for the thing to the places you [TS]

01:09:58   can extend on iOS on the mac but it's I [TS]

01:10:02   i think it's a very very clever API and [TS]

01:10:05   it is better than let's just do the [TS]

01:10:06   simplest thing which you say a bunch of [TS]

01:10:08   stuff and you identified application and [TS]

01:10:10   then we translate the text in hand off [TS]

01:10:11   your apps that would have been a [TS]

01:10:12   disaster [TS]

01:10:13   yep couldn't agree more yeah i mean like [TS]

01:10:14   the system as it stands now I I have [TS]

01:10:16   kind of mixed feelings about it because [TS]

01:10:17   you know they didn't basically give me [TS]

01:10:19   anything to use for overcast because [TS]

01:10:21   they didn't create or release one of [TS]

01:10:23   these like intense structures that is [TS]

01:10:25   play media item or control control media [TS]

01:10:27   playback it was a comedian tent is a [TS]

01:10:29   gimme like that's something they will I [TS]

01:10:31   feel like they will do well it depends [TS]

01:10:33   on why it's not there now if it's not [TS]

01:10:35   there now because they just didn't get [TS]

01:10:36   to it [TS]

01:10:36   sure if it isn't there now because maybe [TS]

01:10:38   they wanted to protect Apple music I [TS]

01:10:40   hope that's not the reason I that there [TS]

01:10:43   it is possible that the reason i hope [TS]

01:10:44   that isn't it and knowing apple that [TS]

01:10:46   probably isn't it [TS]

01:10:47   no I mean that they would want to [TS]

01:10:49   control like it was that was the case [TS]

01:10:50   you'd be able to have to talk to Siri [TS]

01:10:52   too [TS]

01:10:53   control all media playing in any of the [TS]

01:10:56   native media controllers right yeah I [TS]

01:10:58   guess but yeah I don't know it so I'd [TS]

01:11:01   say we'll see [TS]

01:11:02   yes like right now you can say you know [TS]

01:11:03   play this artist name and it just plays [TS]

01:11:06   at music and that's one of the big [TS]

01:11:07   reasons why people choose that music [TS]

01:11:08   over time thinking like a video services [TS]

01:11:10   like they're not competing with YouTube [TS]

01:11:12   at this point but still have this don't [TS]

01:11:14   know you know yeah I mean don't show me [TS]

01:11:16   the latest whatever video on the [TS]

01:11:17   whatever trial on youtube but they have [TS]

01:11:19   an apple TV like they did at tu apple TV [TS]

01:11:21   2 apple TV series we're now you can you [TS]

01:11:23   know you [TS]

01:11:24   youtube is part of that Apple TV's [TS]

01:11:25   universal service but not in iOS and [TS]

01:11:26   YouTube is on there as well anyway [TS]

01:11:28   hopefully it's not a political reason [TS]

01:11:30   but technologically speaking a media [TS]

01:11:32   media playback intent or even like [TS]

01:11:34   something i don't know did they have [TS]

01:11:36   like an email and time getting that [TS]

01:11:37   falls into the category message I think [TS]

01:11:38   it's necessary means only for people [TS]

01:11:40   like us it's not legal and kids are [TS]

01:11:42   doing it anyway like this is promising [TS]

01:11:44   theory finally has an API it seems like [TS]

01:11:46   a reasonable good API that they spend [TS]

01:11:48   out to New intense and by adding new [TS]

01:11:50   attempts i don't think there's any [TS]

01:11:51   particular complexity they add is just [TS]

01:11:53   like the intense address categories not [TS]

01:11:55   individual app so they didn't select [TS]

01:11:56   partners any intent that they add if [TS]

01:11:58   they make a media playback intent [TS]

01:11:59   they're not making like an overcast [TS]

01:12:01   intent or YouTube content they're going [TS]

01:12:02   to make one that encompasses huge [TS]

01:12:04   numbers of applications just like they [TS]

01:12:06   have with like a the intense they have [TS]

01:12:08   been out so I think that the possible [TS]

01:12:10   number of useful intense in the world is [TS]

01:12:12   like low hundreds you know right and [TS]

01:12:15   that will cover thousands upon thousands [TS]

01:12:17   upon thousands of apps [TS]

01:12:18   yeah i mean overall i'm i'm very happy [TS]

01:12:20   with how they implemented this API it [TS]

01:12:22   seems like a very smart way to do it [TS]

01:12:24   it is as you mentioned earlier like you [TS]

01:12:25   know because it kind of abstract away [TS]

01:12:27   dealing with the language and some of [TS]

01:12:29   the like some of the details of how the [TS]

01:12:31   person structures their statement it [TS]

01:12:33   abstracts all that away from the [TS]

01:12:34   developers so like it's really easy to [TS]

01:12:36   do things like a bit like instant [TS]

01:12:37   messaging app because you don't need to [TS]

01:12:38   like you know if you say like you know [TS]

01:12:40   send a message to john that i will be [TS]

01:12:42   late and you know if it's like does the [TS]

01:12:45   app need to know that I said that before [TS]

01:12:47   I will be later you know doesn't just [TS]

01:12:48   get I'll be late and the United like an [TS]

01:12:51   abstract way to deal with all that for [TS]

01:12:52   you that's awesome you can blame all the [TS]

01:12:54   stupid bugs I'm like well I don't have a [TS]

01:12:55   choice that this is the intense enemy [TS]

01:12:57   this and thinks the messages this and it [TS]

01:12:58   includes that we all just complain about [TS]

01:13:00   series more yeah exactly but that [TS]

01:13:01   abstracts away dealing with so many you [TS]

01:13:03   know language issues and different [TS]

01:13:05   languages and different constructs [TS]

01:13:07   so it's great for the developers that it [TS]

01:13:10   supports and I hope in the future [TS]

01:13:11   support for developer yeah I completely [TS]

01:13:13   agree with everything you just said in [TS]

01:13:14   and it i want to double down what you [TS]

01:13:16   said a second ago which is it supports [TS]

01:13:17   like 30 some languages or something like [TS]

01:13:19   that which is quite a bit different than [TS]

01:13:21   most of the voice enabled stuff they're [TS]

01:13:24   certainly amazon's if not Google's there [TS]

01:13:27   are a couple of other things that were [TS]

01:13:28   mentioned that I'd like to try to [TS]

01:13:30   breathe through pretty quickly because [TS]

01:13:31   there was another big section in the iOS [TS]

01:13:32   stuff the quick stuff i'd like to [TS]

01:13:34   breathe through his Apple music i [TS]

01:13:35   refresh this was when bozeman st. John [TS]

01:13:39   came up i'm a pronounced that wrong but [TS]

01:13:40   she was awesome children there was one [TS]

01:13:43   small part where she was trying to get a [TS]

01:13:44   bunch of like completely nerdy [TS]

01:13:46   developers to try to the singer/rapper [TS]

01:13:49   like that was part of the joke though in [TS]

01:13:51   the end it's like it was it was a long [TS]

01:13:53   set up for realizing this is not [TS]

01:13:55   happening right and you guys need to [TS]

01:13:56   practice but it was other than that [TS]

01:13:59   which got a little bit cringe-worthy I [TS]

01:14:01   thought she did an unbelievable job into [TS]

01:14:04   my recollection the best first time [TS]

01:14:06   performance of anyone I've ever seen on [TS]

01:14:08   an opportunity but later maybe one of my [TS]

01:14:10   few tweets during the thing was like [TS]

01:14:11   being cooler than a DQ is admittedly a [TS]

01:14:13   low bar because like that she achieved [TS]

01:14:15   it handily like everybody's really i [TS]

01:14:18   mean it's a tough call like it you want [TS]

01:14:21   someone to be up there to show [TS]

01:14:21   enthusiasm for music and it's hard to do [TS]

01:14:25   that them all the time I someone starkly [TS]

01:14:27   treated like once again Apple shows how [TS]

01:14:28   to enjoy music like we all understand [TS]

01:14:30   how to enjoy but like really like if [TS]

01:14:31   you're going to an apple music demo you [TS]

01:14:33   can't really demo it as like a series of [TS]

01:14:35   screens and stuff like the whole point [TS]

01:14:36   of the thing is the music and even [TS]

01:14:38   though the message of this was like you [TS]

01:14:39   can find your stuff more easily whatever [TS]

01:14:41   there's always gonna be a part where [TS]

01:14:42   they show enthusiasm for music and you [TS]

01:14:44   need a presenter up there who was [TS]

01:14:45   clearly enthusiastic about it and bottom [TS]

01:14:47   line is you have to have someone who is [TS]

01:14:49   relatable and even though a lot of us [TS]

01:14:52   are old in the audience like it we can [TS]

01:14:54   relate to any Q getting down and I don't [TS]

01:14:57   think it's not his fault like you know a [TS]

01:14:59   little bit he can't everyone gets old [TS]

01:15:01   man ever [TS]

01:15:01   run but everyone becomes uncool uncool [TS]

01:15:04   earlier than they were before and it was [TS]

01:15:07   just a silly choice to happen up there [TS]

01:15:08   doing that bring someone else who is [TS]

01:15:10   better at this than you and who is more [TS]

01:15:12   relatable and they did [TS]

01:15:13   hallelujah and it was better yeah i mean [TS]

01:15:16   like it's still a really tough gig [TS]

01:15:17   because like that audience is and that's [TS]

01:15:20   setting is really not conducive to like [TS]

01:15:23   we're gonna talk cool about music and [TS]

01:15:25   we're gonna get all everyone all excited [TS]

01:15:26   about our cool music like that you know [TS]

01:15:28   you can't do that in that room no matter [TS]

01:15:30   how cool you want you can do it by being [TS]

01:15:32   funny like Craig killed at once again [TS]

01:15:34   yeah right i keep you have to be [TS]

01:15:35   relatable to that audience but you can [TS]

01:15:38   do it like you can do it through humor [TS]

01:15:40   you can do with your self deprecating [TS]

01:15:41   humor but I actually think that she was [TS]

01:15:43   a different kind of funny like that [TS]

01:15:46   again that 12 inch worthy part aside I [TS]

01:15:48   thought she was a different kind of [TS]

01:15:50   funny and arguably more funny than [TS]

01:15:51   anyone else on stage and the thing that [TS]

01:15:53   was so striking to me was the that she [TS]

01:15:56   was a different kind of funny instead of [TS]

01:15:57   the dad jokes that have been out that's [TS]

01:16:00   all you can do with your dad [TS]

01:16:01   agree agree that is that is the entirety [TS]

01:16:04   of your repertoire but but it it in a [TS]

01:16:06   way that I've never seen an apple [TS]

01:16:08   keynote be funny her portion of the [TS]

01:16:11   keynote was a different kind of funny [TS]

01:16:13   and even as not a very even as a fellow [TS]

01:16:18   white man like most of the people that [TS]

01:16:21   were always on the Apple Keynote stages [TS]

01:16:23   i really enjoyed this different kind of [TS]

01:16:25   funny I thought it made for a better [TS]

01:16:27   keynote and having this different kind [TS]

01:16:29   of voice and and I would have really [TS]

01:16:32   thought she did an unbelievably good a [TS]

01:16:34   manager as always the trick to being a [TS]

01:16:35   presenter that you have to be [TS]

01:16:36   comfortable with yourself and she was [TS]

01:16:37   and that makes you like even even if [TS]

01:16:39   your presentation doesn't go that well [TS]

01:16:40   if you're comfortable with yourself and [TS]

01:16:42   your role with that that's that makes [TS]

01:16:43   the audience more comfortable and if you [TS]

01:16:45   can express genuine enthusiasm for the [TS]

01:16:47   new things are showing and like as rap [TS]

01:16:49   music itself [TS]

01:16:50   they're trying to make it nicer to use [TS]

01:16:53   by making it easier to find the stuff [TS]

01:16:55   that you actually care about and [TS]

01:16:56   addressing the idea of like hey get on a [TS]

01:16:58   plane I have no idea what the heck is on [TS]

01:16:59   my phone right so they address that [TS]

01:17:01   directly and said oh now we have a [TS]

01:17:03   special view like I feel like they're [TS]

01:17:05   dressing a once again addressing you [TS]

01:17:06   needs that I feel like I should have [TS]

01:17:07   known a year ago but didn't [TS]

01:17:10   now they've discovered them they [TS]

01:17:12   rearrange things a little bit they've [TS]

01:17:13   added a limited amount [TS]

01:17:14   it features is that enough to make apple [TS]

01:17:17   music better is it still gonna fight [TS]

01:17:19   with people's metadata and give you bad [TS]

01:17:21   versions of stuff and do all that like I [TS]

01:17:24   don't know I hope not but the Apple [TS]

01:17:26   music I still feel like that's the [TS]

01:17:27   albatross around our music snack is for [TS]

01:17:30   the people who should be the biggest [TS]

01:17:32   fans about music music lovers who have [TS]

01:17:34   huge music collections Apple music I [TS]

01:17:36   still think feels like the enemy because [TS]

01:17:37   going to screw with your music in ways [TS]

01:17:39   that you don't understand and it's like [TS]

01:17:42   a giant be strangled you say no thanks [TS]

01:17:44   as opposed to say itunes match which [TS]

01:17:45   have the potential to be just as bad but [TS]

01:17:47   was not just as bad that it would mess [TS]

01:17:49   with your music in fairly predictable [TS]

01:17:51   ways and the upside was pretty big like [TS]

01:17:53   so [TS]

01:17:54   yep i still use itunes matches to love [TS]

01:17:55   it yeah if they cancel itunes match that [TS]

01:17:57   would be terrible because i don't want [TS]

01:17:59   to use you know like we want like photos [TS]

01:18:02   we want we want the the photo style [TS]

01:18:03   refresh we're still waiting for the post [TS]

01:18:05   was refreshing music companies exposed [TS]

01:18:06   to be it but it's a bad job we want all [TS]

01:18:08   our music everywhere and we want to [TS]

01:18:10   control it and we don't want Apple [TS]

01:18:11   screwing with it and messing it up [TS]

01:18:12   so that's perfect segue to the other [TS]

01:18:14   thing I wanted to very briefly touch on [TS]

01:18:15   which is photos and basically it was [TS]

01:18:18   hey we're doing google photos but we're [TS]

01:18:20   doing it on device in it with no mention [TS]

01:18:22   of google any anywhere but that's that's [TS]

01:18:24   expected you and I mean that's basically [TS]

01:18:26   what i saw and what I saw looked to me [TS]

01:18:30   like it was taking all of the best bits [TS]

01:18:32   of google photos like arbitrarily [TS]

01:18:34   searching for handbrake or controller [TS]

01:18:37   likely wouldn't do that demo they didn't [TS]

01:18:38   do the like they said hey will notice [TS]

01:18:41   that there's water and there's animal [TS]

01:18:42   they didn't pull up a search screen and [TS]

01:18:44   say horses like I i continue to think [TS]

01:18:47   that Google do this bed is obviously [TS]

01:18:49   going to the controlling us and by the [TS]

01:18:50   way update on we'd never involved in [TS]

01:18:51   this episode but a small amount of [TS]

01:18:53   follow-up once i uploaded all at once i [TS]

01:18:56   uploaded all of my photos to a photo and [TS]

01:18:59   i typed controller guess what it found [TS]

01:19:01   exactly the controller cricket the [TS]

01:19:02   controller pictures that have found [TS]

01:19:03   before and also the ones that they just [TS]

01:19:05   hadn't been uploaded yet so Google [TS]

01:19:06   photos totally aced the controller tests [TS]

01:19:08   found all my controller pictures and so [TS]

01:19:12   that's going to be my first test with [TS]

01:19:13   you know cuz all my photos already [TS]

01:19:14   uploaded to apples photos you know in [TS]

01:19:16   the cloud thing and when this feature [TS]

01:19:18   rolls out as I assume it will on the Mac [TS]

01:19:20   as well i'm going to type controller and [TS]

01:19:22   I can almost guarantee that it will not [TS]

01:19:23   find it [TS]

01:19:24   I'm so it's just a question of how much [TS]

01:19:25   better is going with the [TS]

01:19:26   the Apple there was no demo we have no [TS]

01:19:28   way to judge the fact that Apple is [TS]

01:19:30   doing this at all is great maybe someday [TS]

01:19:32   they can get family photo library by the [TS]

01:19:34   way I was hard but speaking of family [TS]

01:19:36   photo libraries there is new sharing [TS]

01:19:38   features in cloud get that like [TS]

01:19:40   collaboration of notes and everything I [TS]

01:19:41   know something you can use this feature [TS]

01:19:43   for a moment you have a single photos [TS]

01:19:45   library for an entire family and share [TS]

01:19:47   it among them so everyone's going to do [TS]

01:19:49   one big pool [TS]

01:19:50   yep I that was not announced maybe not [TS]

01:19:53   this year or whatever but anyway that's [TS]

01:19:54   me that's a fall event feature or maybe [TS]

01:19:56   that's the next year yeah i mean he [TS]

01:19:57   could be and it scares me a little too [TS]

01:19:59   i'll see how well it works notes but [TS]

01:20:00   anyway you know the photos features like [TS]

01:20:01   Casey said like we're going to try to do [TS]

01:20:03   things google photos did [TS]

01:20:04   we're gonna have the privacy angle that [TS]

01:20:05   we're not going to do it service are [TS]

01:20:07   going to do a client-side Howie into a [TS]

01:20:09   client-side without holding your battery [TS]

01:20:10   presumably they didn't say this I feel [TS]

01:20:12   like they should have [TS]

01:20:13   oh don't worry we won't destroy your [TS]

01:20:14   battery we will do it when it's plugged [TS]

01:20:16   in at night and we won't start doing [TS]

01:20:18   until it's been plugged in for a certain [TS]

01:20:19   period of time we won't start doing [TS]

01:20:20   until you're above eighty percent like [TS]

01:20:22   that is a suit i assume what they're [TS]

01:20:24   doing because i can tell you from seeing [TS]

01:20:25   face recognition bring down many a mac i [TS]

01:20:27   do not want to face recognition running [TS]

01:20:29   on my giant 70,000 photo library even [TS]

01:20:32   just that the band was to download the [TS]

01:20:33   original do the recognition and chuck [TS]

01:20:34   them out of storage again it's just you [TS]

01:20:36   know so i assume they will do this when [TS]

01:20:37   it's plugged in there doing it on device [TS]

01:20:39   instead of in the cloud because apples [TS]

01:20:40   bad cloud and because they love privacy [TS]

01:20:42   i hope they do a good job not didn't [TS]

01:20:45   demo anything to let me know they were [TS]

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01:23:04   ah so the other big thing on iOS 10 to [TS]

01:23:12   me anyway was messages and some of this [TS]

01:23:16   made me feel like the old man i really [TS]

01:23:18   am [TS]

01:23:18   oh I i think the entire thing shows that [TS]

01:23:20   all of us including most of the people [TS]

01:23:22   in that room are too old to understand [TS]

01:23:25   why anybody would want to use these [TS]

01:23:27   things I totally understand like I mean [TS]

01:23:28   it but it amazes me that I message has [TS]

01:23:30   been so boring for so long in light of [TS]

01:23:33   every single other messaging allegation [TS]

01:23:36   being having all these features having [TS]

01:23:38   stickers and like animations and [TS]

01:23:42   snapchat child features annotations like [TS]

01:23:43   Apple had the text special i call you [TS]

01:23:45   know like making a picture and [TS]

01:23:46   scribbling over it like they have all [TS]

01:23:47   the pieces there this is once again [TS]

01:23:49   catch up where Apple finally realized [TS]

01:23:51   hey [TS]

01:23:52   messages applications let you type text' [TS]

01:23:53   energy back and forth to each other are [TS]

01:23:55   super boring and tons of people use [TS]

01:23:57   other ones that have all sorts of [TS]

01:23:59   features like stickers and weird [TS]

01:24:01   animations and like and now they're [TS]

01:24:03   doing all that which is great again it [TS]

01:24:05   is playing catch-up but it amazes me [TS]

01:24:07   that they spent so they know it's the [TS]

01:24:08   most used application on their platform [TS]

01:24:10   they spent so long not even be able to [TS]

01:24:12   send messages in the right order and [TS]

01:24:14   then Beth haven't delivered all devices [TS]

01:24:16   they didn't mention anything about this [TS]

01:24:17   and like the proximity thing so now if i [TS]

01:24:20   have 7 devices on my desk will not make [TS]

01:24:21   all them ring at the same time because [TS]

01:24:23   it knows I'm there I watch like they [TS]

01:24:25   didn't mention any of that like messages [TS]

01:24:27   has been so far behind everybody for so [TS]

01:24:29   long and they caught didn't catch up [TS]

01:24:31   entirely but a lot of the features they [TS]

01:24:33   put out as like all those things [TS]

01:24:35   everyone else is doing [TS]

01:24:36   we are finally doing them as well it [TS]

01:24:38   would be nice if they were adding these [TS]

01:24:40   features after making every other part [TS]

01:24:42   of messages the boring part exactly no [TS]

01:24:44   rock solid and stable and like not [TS]

01:24:47   annoying and presidents notification and [TS]

01:24:49   messages being on all devices and all [TS]

01:24:51   times and working out all the privacy [TS]

01:24:53   things but they're not they're going [TS]

01:24:55   ahead with these things and I think this [TS]

01:24:57   is that just the price of entry [TS]

01:24:59   this is not like a radical features like [TS]

01:25:00   Apple has woken up and realize that you [TS]

01:25:02   have a message application you need to [TS]

01:25:04   support these things and your message [TS]

01:25:06   conversations will be as annoying as the [TS]

01:25:08   people you or as exciting let's say the [TS]

01:25:10   people you message with jon was looking [TS]

01:25:13   right and I said that FYI i know that a [TS]

01:25:15   lot of this looks really good to me the [TS]

01:25:16   emoji fire whatever they call them where [TS]

01:25:18   you type text and then it will I think [TS]

01:25:21   yellow highlight an underlying [TS]

01:25:22   individual worries give you not only the [TS]

01:25:24   option of converting that word say peta2 [TS]

01:25:26   emoji but if you have something like I [TS]

01:25:29   don't know girl then you if you tap girl [TS]

01:25:31   it'll give you several contextually [TS]

01:25:33   relevant hopefully options that you can [TS]

01:25:35   convert in the girl the word girl into a [TS]

01:25:38   different emoji I feel like that is not [TS]

01:25:41   the way people use emoji a lot of times [TS]

01:25:42   that like I think it's forcing a [TS]

01:25:44   particular style because the and they [TS]

01:25:45   said in the presentation that people [TS]

01:25:47   will finish sentence and want sort of an [TS]

01:25:49   an emoji capper like that's how people a [TS]

01:25:52   lot of people use emoji is sort of like [TS]

01:25:54   to express something after you've [TS]

01:25:56   written the text going back into the [TS]

01:25:57   Texan replacing announced the motor yeah [TS]

01:25:59   people do that sometimes but it's not as [TS]

01:26:02   common in my experience as or at least [TS]

01:26:04   you want edition [TS]

01:26:05   everything in the end i wanna see more [TS]

01:26:06   like slacks autocomplete you enter emoji [TS]

01:26:09   autocomplete mode you want to find this [TS]

01:26:11   that right emoji capital they said in [TS]

01:26:13   the demo but you didn't find the emoji [TS]

01:26:14   happy just went back and changed much [TS]

01:26:15   announced the emoji which is a good [TS]

01:26:17   feature and you should have it but you [TS]

01:26:18   should also have a way to you know [TS]

01:26:21   quickly sort of inline autocomplete [TS]

01:26:23   emoji and in the end message anyway [TS]

01:26:26   maybe it still makes sense to me though [TS]

01:26:28   because it's um considerably faster to [TS]

01:26:31   type words then to scroll through that [TS]

01:26:33   damned emoji list trying to find the [TS]

01:26:35   right emoji so it made sense to me [TS]

01:26:36   speaking of of writing you can write [TS]

01:26:38   with your own handwriting a kind of like [TS]

01:26:40   on the watch but better which is [TS]

01:26:42   exciting you can do the same thing that [TS]

01:26:44   google google showed where you can make [TS]

01:26:46   the text that expands and shrinks but I [TS]

01:26:47   think you pointed out John that it will [TS]

01:26:49   land and its resting state is full-sized [TS]

01:26:53   that we talked about like a lot of [TS]

01:26:54   things a lot of things we saw download [TS]

01:26:56   exactly what a google demoed it's a love [TS]

01:26:58   thing i like you know down to the [TS]

01:27:00   whispered and shouting and the the [TS]

01:27:02   bigger emoji and although the stuff only [TS]

01:27:04   Apple did some of them better and the [TS]

01:27:06   Whisperer is a great example if you want [TS]

01:27:07   to be like whispering halftime text you [TS]

01:27:09   can do that but it stays small just for [TS]

01:27:10   a second and then comes back to what I [TS]

01:27:12   assume is whatever the normal size is so [TS]

01:27:14   if you have your font size cranked up on [TS]

01:27:16   an iOS for accessibility that your [TS]

01:27:18   whisper we'll start microscopic for a [TS]

01:27:19   second get the effect of advantage you [TS]

01:27:21   know doesn't stay that way it goes it [TS]

01:27:23   goes large again one of the things I [TS]

01:27:25   like most [TS]

01:27:25   i can't i can't verbalize why but i [TS]

01:27:28   really liked invisible ink [TS]

01:27:29   I thought that was really really cool [TS]

01:27:31   because it's like hey I'm showing you [TS]

01:27:33   something that say they're they're both [TS]

01:27:34   shaking their heads and laughing at me [TS]

01:27:35   right now but it if you're showing you [TS]

01:27:38   something like that were step I take [TS]

01:27:40   no this one it i think it's cute i think [TS]

01:27:42   there's an emotional aspect right is [TS]

01:27:43   that it works but here's the thing that [TS]

01:27:45   it worries me a tiny bit about it [TS]

01:27:47   invisible ink the feature makes people's [TS]

01:27:51   phones act exactly like the crazy [TS]

01:27:53   haunted gadget that some people believe [TS]

01:27:55   their phones are back so the first time [TS]

01:27:58   you send this to somebody who doesn't [TS]

01:28:00   know what this is there like all I've [TS]

01:28:02   got a virus my phone is haunted the [TS]

01:28:04   letters are all scrambling I can't see [TS]

01:28:06   anything [TS]

01:28:08   I'm sure looking over that and you'll [TS]

01:28:10   explain her i think it is a good feature [TS]

01:28:12   it's a clever feature it is another [TS]

01:28:14   feature that will confuse people who are [TS]

01:28:15   less savvy then business presence is not [TS]

01:28:18   obvious what you're supposed to do with [TS]

01:28:19   it when you know it's not obvious that [TS]

01:28:21   you should swipe it to make it go away [TS]

01:28:22   right so that's fair and it looks [TS]

01:28:25   exactly like what people think bugs look [TS]

01:28:27   like in like movies [TS]

01:28:28   fuck am I think all the texts all [TS]

01:28:31   scrambling the aliens are into it looks [TS]

01:28:33   like it looks more like sand is covering [TS]

01:28:34   it but I mean your point is still fair [TS]

01:28:36   it seemed to me like the new messages [TS]

01:28:38   combination of slack with the responses [TS]

01:28:43   on individual lines which I didn't yeah [TS]

01:28:45   I never thought how you engage that but [TS]

01:28:47   you can like thumbs-up an individual [TS]

01:28:49   message that everybody all right actions [TS]

01:28:51   do you think yeah I was like flagging [TS]

01:28:53   for your own purposes do they see you [TS]

01:28:54   thought my they do my impression was [TS]

01:28:57   that they see it's very much like the [TS]

01:28:59   way slack works if you have to know if [TS]

01:29:00   you use slack and I like that a lot so [TS]

01:29:02   you know the example they haven't on the [TS]

01:29:04   introduction I was 10 page and they call [TS]

01:29:07   it tap back so here you go just have to [TS]

01:29:09   send one of six quick responses to let [TS]

01:29:11   people know what you're thinking and so [TS]

01:29:13   they have an example of somebody saying [TS]

01:29:15   head to santa cruz ? and then the tap [TS]

01:29:18   back is a little thumbs up and that's [TS]

01:29:20   actually really convenient because it's [TS]

01:29:21   nice especially if you're like on the go [TS]

01:29:23   you can just basically say yes I [TS]

01:29:25   acknowledge what you've said I agreed [TS]

01:29:26   let's do it we're good rather than [TS]

01:29:27   having to write out a text message so [TS]

01:29:29   its combination of slack snapchat i [TS]

01:29:31   jokingly celebrated during the keynote [TS]

01:29:33   that I don't have to learn how snapchat [TS]

01:29:35   works anymore because it seems likes a [TS]

01:29:37   lot of those features have come [TS]

01:29:38   otherwise this is way more limited it's [TS]

01:29:40   like I was like I tweeted baby slap yeah [TS]

01:29:43   yeah it's a chat for parents [TS]

01:29:45   yes which make significant take exam so [TS]

01:29:48   yeah something like off is also a little [TS]

01:29:50   weird like the let's celebrate say [TS]

01:29:52   things like happy birthday or [TS]

01:29:53   congratulations with animations to take [TS]

01:29:55   over the entire screen you can have like [TS]

01:29:56   bubbles yr balloons excuse me fly on [TS]

01:29:59   confetti and fireworks always was always [TS]

01:30:02   really good shot underscores confetti [TS]

01:30:04   out here so I mean I think some of that [TS]

01:30:06   stuff again it's going to be the kind of [TS]

01:30:07   thing like series Joe penis or like it [TS]

01:30:09   might be cool the first time you see it [TS]

01:30:11   but like there's only a very small [TS]

01:30:13   handful of these like and effects so [TS]

01:30:15   it's get there going to get old quickly [TS]

01:30:17   i think and and I think some of them [TS]

01:30:18   seem a little heavy-handed [TS]

01:30:20   you know overall I i think it's it's a [TS]

01:30:23   cool it's a fun little feature to have [TS]

01:30:25   but i do think their implementation of [TS]

01:30:26   it is gonna is gonna get I think a [TS]

01:30:28   little annoying but pretty quick but the [TS]

01:30:30   same is that that's what how you view it [TS]

01:30:33   but it's a nice thing to have but like [TS]

01:30:35   this is how entire groups of people [TS]

01:30:37   communicate all the time you have the [TS]

01:30:39   same limited palette of stuff that you [TS]

01:30:41   would find annoying really quickly but [TS]

01:30:42   as far as they're concerned anything [TS]

01:30:43   that you can't do this with this crap [TS]

01:30:45   and they never get tired of it like [TS]

01:30:46   never meeting last night like they're [TS]

01:30:48   just I mean I scroll through like my [TS]

01:30:50   kids conversations like they're there to [TS]

01:30:52   tolerance for repeated and they don't [TS]

01:30:54   even have they haven't even smaller [TS]

01:30:55   vocabulary and still just repeating it [TS]

01:30:57   and everything like I think this will [TS]

01:30:59   like it's not how we will communicate [TS]

01:31:01   but you have to have this and you have [TS]

01:31:03   to have you and more of it and they will [TS]

01:31:05   not burn out these things will just keep [TS]

01:31:07   using them and potentially be using I [TS]

01:31:09   just hope they don't crash the apps that [TS]

01:31:10   will be ashamed well into that end there [TS]

01:31:13   now there's now an app store for I [TS]

01:31:15   message which in principle i'm all by my [TS]

01:31:18   hundred percent behind but in execution [TS]

01:31:20   my little scared people already doing [TS]

01:31:22   that was buying like the keyboard like [TS]

01:31:24   Kim Kardashian keyboard guy who write [TS]

01:31:25   like this is already they're responding [TS]

01:31:27   to a market again it's not like Apple is [TS]

01:31:29   like oh we're the pint they're catching [TS]

01:31:31   up like this is a thing that people do [TS]

01:31:32   on all platforms that they're finding a [TS]

01:31:34   way to do through keyboards and apples [TS]

01:31:35   platforms [TS]

01:31:36   this is what people want to do with the [TS]

01:31:38   front may not be what we want to do [TS]

01:31:39   other phones but they have to provide a [TS]

01:31:40   way to do it even if ya even if it's [TS]

01:31:42   outside the realm of like Steve Jobs [TS]

01:31:43   still alive today [TS]

01:31:45   what do you think of this probably not [TS]

01:31:47   up his alley probably he would want that [TS]

01:31:48   we suffer for like bitchy animations [TS]

01:31:50   write that letter but I think I don't [TS]

01:31:53   know if you think my draw the lines like [TS]

01:31:55   the sticker stores yeah well but you [TS]

01:31:56   know I think one thing interesting like [TS]

01:31:58   a theme we saw throughout this unit is [TS]

01:32:00   you looked like things like the [TS]

01:32:01   integration with other services into [TS]

01:32:03   your contacts you can like you know [TS]

01:32:05   right in your address book or your [TS]

01:32:06   contact that you can see like are you [TS]

01:32:07   can call this person on whatsapp or [TS]

01:32:09   whatever I don't know how these but it [TS]

01:32:11   is that a phone call service ever just [TS]

01:32:12   messaging have to decide is good [TS]

01:32:14   so yes so now you can do that you can [TS]

01:32:16   you know they have like all these little [TS]

01:32:17   hooks everywhere that you know that's [TS]

01:32:19   are slowly adding more places for [TS]

01:32:21   third-party apps can hook into the [TS]

01:32:22   system and and appear native if you if [TS]

01:32:25   you look at something like android or [TS]

01:32:27   windows you know where things are kind [TS]

01:32:28   but more and really things are kind of [TS]

01:32:30   like the Wild West and there are [TS]

01:32:32   lots of ways for apps to hook in all [TS]

01:32:34   over the place or to be everywhere but [TS]

01:32:36   it's it's done in like a very like Wild [TS]

01:32:38   West but it kind of you know risky or or [TS]

01:32:41   unstable or just kind of messy way what [TS]

01:32:43   an apple has done with iOS is slowly [TS]

01:32:46   make a system over time in which you can [TS]

01:32:50   integrate and when you integrate it's as [TS]

01:32:52   nice as the built-in stuff and they're [TS]

01:32:54   doing this like very slowly over like a [TS]

01:32:56   decade but the result is so different [TS]

01:32:59   from what you get on Android wear on [TS]

01:33:01   Android like you could do way more [TS]

01:33:03   especially back in the day on day one [TS]

01:33:05   you could do way more but it resulted in [TS]

01:33:08   overall I think a less nice system than [TS]

01:33:11   what we're slowly developing on iOS [TS]

01:33:13   we're now you can integrate all sorts of [TS]

01:33:15   cool stuff you can integrate you know [TS]

01:33:17   certain kinds of apps in many different [TS]

01:33:19   places all around the OS and make it [TS]

01:33:21   seem just like the first party [TS]

01:33:22   integration but without many of the [TS]

01:33:25   downsides of the android style kind of [TS]

01:33:28   more Wild West system without the [TS]

01:33:29   downsides of the Apple approach which is [TS]

01:33:31   ok so you can have some integrations but [TS]

01:33:34   when you say ask Siri contact somebody [TS]

01:33:37   or our pop some UI were always going to [TS]

01:33:39   show you our first like they're all [TS]

01:33:41   right pitch was low but if you get most [TS]

01:33:43   of the time when you talk to this person [TS]

01:33:44   to reach at that will be the first [TS]

01:33:46   choice like we won't say oh well cable [TS]

01:33:48   you can add that extra integration but [TS]

01:33:49   that's a frail when you contact them by [TS]

01:33:51   NE pourrait programmatically will always [TS]

01:33:53   present you with the apple ones first [TS]

01:33:54   this ties in with the ability to delete [TS]

01:33:56   the built-in apple apps and the [TS]

01:33:58   potential I don't know if this is [TS]

01:33:59   confirmed that ability to pick different [TS]

01:34:01   default apps for things that we know [TS]

01:34:02   that's what I'm really quick before we [TS]

01:34:04   get to that I just want to say that I'm [TS]

01:34:05   all-in on the net on the master stuff [TS]

01:34:06   i'm really excited about it in during [TS]

01:34:08   the State of the Union forget who was [TS]

01:34:09   but they were talking about the sticker [TS]

01:34:11   packs specifically and they were saying [TS]

01:34:12   oh here look at how easy it is to build [TS]

01:34:14   these you do need xcode but bid but [TS]

01:34:16   whoever was they say they started xcode [TS]

01:34:18   did a new project from this new template [TS]

01:34:20   and they said okay i'm almost done [TS]

01:34:21   literally all they have done was made in [TS]

01:34:23   project usually dragging the images [TS]

01:34:25   right and that's about it like there's [TS]

01:34:27   no code you can make a code list sticker [TS]

01:34:29   and which is really exciting impressive [TS]

01:34:31   and I'm really hopeful about that but [TS]

01:34:32   i'm also very scared that's just going [TS]

01:34:34   to be Spanish city if you want to say [TS]

01:34:36   you can sell images like I'm sure people [TS]

01:34:38   will just upload pictures of Star Wars [TS]

01:34:40   stuff and try to sell them until [TS]

01:34:41   Lucasfilm me and it's gonna be a [TS]

01:34:43   copyright infringement nightmare [TS]

01:34:44   alright so I a leaving messages behind [TS]

01:34:47   I'm really enthusiastic about it some [TS]

01:34:48   things I don't totally understand i [TS]

01:34:50   think it's really great with jon is [TS]

01:34:51   alluding to as summarizer in chief is [TS]

01:34:53   some people have noticed that you can [TS]

01:34:54   actually delete like the stock mail app [TS]

01:34:57   that comes on iOS yeah and they're like [TS]

01:34:59   in the appstore never yeah and if you [TS]

01:35:01   want to get it back how do i get back to [TS]

01:35:03   ya at the little cloud with the bounty [TS]

01:35:04   facing arrow and there's been no [TS]

01:35:05   official documentation or talk about [TS]

01:35:08   what that means but it could potentially [TS]

01:35:09   mean and seems like it means that you [TS]

01:35:13   can get a different default mail app [TS]

01:35:16   we're not a special about this you know [TS]

01:35:17   but so you delete the mail app you have [TS]

01:35:20   no way to send mail does the mail share [TS]

01:35:22   she did not show up anymore and that's [TS]

01:35:23   the solution right or like you know what [TS]

01:35:25   happens if you ask Siri for a certain [TS]

01:35:27   feature the right wires like you know if [TS]

01:35:28   you believe the weather app can serious [TS]

01:35:29   look at the weather there stuff like [TS]

01:35:30   that like they're like the system isn't [TS]

01:35:32   built for so long to assume that these [TS]

01:35:34   certain apps are always available right [TS]

01:35:36   so it'll be interesting to see like how [TS]

01:35:37   they handle all this I mean whether [TS]

01:35:38   we're going to get the ability to change [TS]

01:35:39   default setting is a totally separate [TS]

01:35:41   decision that like we can we can have [TS]

01:35:43   this system that only exists so we can [TS]

01:35:45   delete the tips app like yeah but like I [TS]

01:35:48   say you like tap am a link in a way a [TS]

01:35:50   male to lincoln a webview actually no [TS]

01:35:53   handler what I said that there's an [TS]

01:35:54   alert so there's a tweet by Mike sore [TS]

01:35:56   neck who with more positions show notes [TS]

01:35:58   into the picture and that he said he got [TS]

01:36:00   from a male to link and it says restore [TS]

01:36:02   mail ? you followed a link that requires [TS]

01:36:05   the animal which is no longer on this [TS]

01:36:07   iphone you can restore the apps but [TS]

01:36:09   that's crappy like where it's a half [TS]

01:36:10   solution like yes it's great that we can [TS]

01:36:12   leave the tips app like it so we're all [TS]

01:36:13   for that right but if i delete mail like [TS]

01:36:16   share sheet we already have a solution [TS]

01:36:17   if i delete mail and I go to share a [TS]

01:36:19   link the gmail share thing will be there [TS]

01:36:22   good we're all set there but the default [TS]

01:36:24   comes in 10 i tap a male to link then [TS]

01:36:26   what happens [TS]

01:36:27   it's nice that it's not an error or [TS]

01:36:29   nothing happens and it gives you a [TS]

01:36:30   button to fix it be nicer today I [TS]

01:36:33   believe the mail app for a reason [TS]

01:36:34   because i don't use it to do my mail let [TS]

01:36:36   me tell you which one I do use to do my [TS]

01:36:38   mouth and then you come up with a [TS]

01:36:39   protocol or an intense system or [TS]

01:36:40   whatever the decision to make the gmail [TS]

01:36:42   app conforming with this and can replace [TS]

01:36:44   and maybe they have that plan but you [TS]

01:36:45   know it could be that dialogue is coming [TS]

01:36:47   up because we have not detected any [TS]

01:36:48   other application on the system that can [TS]

01:36:50   handle the mail intent or whatever and [TS]

01:36:52   therefore we have to bring this dialogue [TS]

01:36:53   up whereas when you learn about this new [TS]

01:36:55   API in a session later this week you can [TS]

01:36:57   make the gmail app [TS]

01:36:58   be a standard mail application that's [TS]

01:36:59   part of it you have to to be it to [TS]

01:37:01   fulfill the role of a default web [TS]

01:37:03   browser email client messages client or [TS]

01:37:05   whatever you have to be conforming with [TS]

01:37:07   whatever way the system communicates you [TS]

01:37:10   how does it launched you and say you're [TS]

01:37:12   now supposed to be still composing a [TS]

01:37:13   message the mail options whatever the [TS]

01:37:15   hell it doesn't system integrates with [TS]

01:37:16   it once it becomes open the third party [TS]

01:37:17   that has to be formalized so i would say [TS]

01:37:19   that dialogue doesn't tell us anything [TS]

01:37:22   yet other than no current applications [TS]

01:37:24   are able to be the default mail [TS]

01:37:26   application i still hope that we will [TS]

01:37:28   learn that there's an easy way for them [TS]

01:37:30   to do that and that would be great i [TS]

01:37:31   will say we are pretty much at a time [TS]

01:37:33   for now but before we go Marco how do [TS]

01:37:36   you feel about the keynote and the state [TS]

01:37:38   of the union which we didn't get to talk [TS]

01:37:39   too much about 1,000 up two thumbs up [TS]

01:37:41   thumbs down how do you feel [TS]

01:37:42   overall I think two thumbs up we're [TS]

01:37:45   gonna see all you know it the there's a [TS]

01:37:46   lot of stuff that they're still there ? [TS]

01:37:48   up like well if that really works well [TS]

01:37:50   everything was a lot of that or like you [TS]

01:37:52   know we're kind of guessing how certain [TS]

01:37:55   things are gonna be implemented so as we [TS]

01:37:57   find out more about the details of these [TS]

01:37:59   things obviously you know my opinion [TS]

01:38:00   might be refined but overall I'm very [TS]

01:38:02   happy with this and overall I think it's [TS]

01:38:04   really good i mean they're the in there [TS]

01:38:06   are some things that we were hoping for [TS]

01:38:07   that we didn't get but I think we've got [TS]

01:38:08   a bunch of really big stuff is gonna be [TS]

01:38:10   really nice so overall for me two thumbs [TS]

01:38:12   up [TS]

01:38:12   John really liked that paints a pretty [TS]

01:38:15   leaks basically no hardware so that [TS]

01:38:16   prepared us for that which is again [TS]

01:38:18   disappointing but you know fine i like [TS]

01:38:20   that in the absence of hardware they now [TS]

01:38:22   folks they had a4 platform structure to [TS]

01:38:25   focus on and they took us three to the [TS]

01:38:26   platforms and the kind of the good [TS]

01:38:29   keynotes especially about software are [TS]

01:38:30   the ones where you find yourself saying [TS]

01:38:32   finally yes that thing that thing that's [TS]

01:38:34   been annoying yes you have addressed it [TS]

01:38:35   and every single one of the sections had [TS]

01:38:37   things they're all like yes good [TS]

01:38:40   finally I am excited to do that that [TS]

01:38:42   isn't normal for a long time and you've [TS]

01:38:43   solved it or I'm excited that you [TS]

01:38:45   recognize like it's fun to see them [TS]

01:38:47   recognize a problem like with the watch [TS]

01:38:49   us thing that they didn't just say oh [TS]

01:38:50   and we tweak things to make it a little [TS]

01:38:51   faster it's like we leave we feel your [TS]

01:38:54   pain we understand we didn't do a good [TS]

01:38:55   job or take another run at it [TS]

01:38:57   and of course the biggest finally of all [TS]

01:38:58   the file system which I'm so tickled the [TS]

01:39:01   day pre-announced even though it's still [TS]

01:39:04   not coming in 2017 until 2017 is [TS]

01:39:06   everybody talked about last week I am [TS]

01:39:08   super happy about that and I guess we'll [TS]

01:39:11   just always patiently for the hardware [TS]

01:39:12   that's going to replace my now [TS]

01:39:14   unsupported mac pro but i think two [TS]

01:39:16   thumbs up I thought it was really good [TS]

01:39:18   the only problem I have with the [TS]

01:39:19   presentation was the thing I was most [TS]

01:39:20   amped about during the keynote was the [TS]

01:39:22   watch stuff and so not that it was [TS]

01:39:24   downhill from there [TS]

01:39:25   but I thought that was the most [TS]

01:39:26   impressive stuff of everything I mean [TS]

01:39:29   I'm sorry I'm just not I don't enjoy the [TS]

01:39:31   filesystem species you do the revamped [TS]

01:39:33   emoji for you have ok but you everywhere [TS]

01:39:36   after you better than three times bigger [TS]

01:39:38   and yea alright fine i tell you're right [TS]

01:39:40   you're right that one choice for I feel [TS]

01:39:42   like I'm on top for again you're arguing [TS]

01:39:43   with me but you're right [TS]

01:39:44   ok but no matter what i still land on [TS]

01:39:47   two thumbs up I thought it was really [TS]

01:39:48   really good and I'm really looking [TS]

01:39:49   forward to it although i completely [TS]

01:39:51   agree with a little bit of what each of [TS]

01:39:53   you said I completely agree Marco that [TS]

01:39:54   it's a lot of assuming this works right [TS]

01:39:58   it but we have no reason to believe it [TS]

01:40:00   won't so so far so good and i agree with [TS]

01:40:02   what John said about it they'll finally [TS]

01:40:03   this is a thing [TS]

01:40:05   finally this is fixed I I think you're [TS]

01:40:07   absolutely right you nailed it that and [TS]

01:40:08   that's like a mean way of saying they [TS]

01:40:11   had things that people liked they [TS]

01:40:13   announce things that people like lots [TS]

01:40:15   and lots of things that people like big [TS]

01:40:16   things small things I mean that's what [TS]

01:40:18   they're supposed to do but it's like it [TS]

01:40:19   didn't feel like they were lacking in [TS]

01:40:20   any of the platform's there are tons of [TS]

01:40:22   things that you know good things we just [TS]

01:40:25   had a episode was like that what you see [TS]

01:40:26   is not Santa Claus but they still bring [TS]

01:40:28   a lot of little gifts let you know that [TS]

01:40:31   presently working like Marco said we [TS]

01:40:33   could unwrap them as a doctor in there [TS]

01:40:34   more soon but for now like there are [TS]

01:40:38   many great gifts if something is for [TS]

01:40:40   everybody under this tree of WWDC and in [TS]

01:40:43   a way the hardware getting the hardware [TS]

01:40:44   of the picture just stops us from [TS]

01:40:46   talking about hardware just like all [TS]

01:40:47   right all your platforms have knew [TS]

01:40:49   better things that that is the this is [TS]

01:40:51   the blessing of waiting all year and [TS]

01:40:53   holding all this stuff and holding it in [TS]

01:40:55   for one big burst is that we get to be [TS]

01:40:57   cranky wrapped the mind everything is [TS]

01:40:58   like oh they did have a bunch of nice [TS]

01:41:00   stuff for us [TS]

01:41:01   actually I think John if we've learned [TS]

01:41:02   anything from today it's that if it is a [TS]

01:41:05   dog turd that's on that's in that that [TS]

01:41:07   gift box it's actually dr. mojee at [TS]

01:41:09   three times the size [TS]

01:41:10   and it's a happy and it's a very happy [TS]

01:41:13   together [TS]

01:41:14   alright thanks a lot to our sponsors [TS]

01:41:16   this week and thanks for all the live [TS]

01:41:17   listeners 4229 we had a 925 listeners [TS]

01:41:21   seriously yeah so that while that might [TS]

01:41:24   be a record for us and thanks everybody [TS]

01:41:26   and we'll cover a lot more this next [TS]

01:41:28   week so talk to you then thanks a lot [TS]

01:41:31   now the show is over they didn't even [TS]

01:41:35   mean to begin as it was accidental [TS]

01:41:39   it was accidental John research Marco [TS]

01:41:45   and Casey would let him [TS]

01:41:47   because it was accidental was accidental [TS]

01:41:52   and you can find the show know today [TS]

01:41:56   DP and if your twitter follow them [TS]

01:42:03   yes byl ISS so that's Katie list and a [TS]

01:42:09   co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our see you [TS]

01:42:17   at Syracuse [TS]

01:42:30   alright thank you are people that's very [TS]

01:42:34   kind of you to tune in and I'm sorry we [TS]

01:42:35   weren't in the chat room and I'm sorry [TS]

01:42:37   we're basically hanging up on you but we [TS]

01:42:39   gotta go see you later [TS]

01:42:40   I can't believe this worked yeah me [TS]

01:42:41   neither [TS]