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173: A Series of Heartbreaking Rejections

 

00:00:00   but I put my photos and google photos oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03   yeah you know I finally ended up doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05   it because like that thing I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5">TS</a>]

00:00:06   tweeted about my controller my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08   playstation controller with the worn-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/8">TS</a>]

00:00:09   thing on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/9">TS</a>]

00:00:10   mm-hmm i was trying to find the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12   picture like the original ones i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/12">TS</a>]

00:00:13   to the tweet like here's the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   yeah uh-huh and i could not find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   picture i'm scrolling through my photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18   library I just like I could not find I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/18">TS</a>]

00:00:21   couldn't even narrow down to like was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   trying to look at the release date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24   destiny but I didn't get in the release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/24">TS</a>]

00:00:25   date i'm scrolling and I know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   one picture i could not find it so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28   like okay so to find one picture you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   upload your entire photo collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   google photos and that was easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/32">TS</a>]

00:00:33   yes to fight because how else are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   gonna find the one picture if I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/35">TS</a>]

00:00:36   which photo upload like I have to upload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   the whole thing I want to try it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   that's just push me over the edge that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   amazing so as uploading to literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   70,000 photos i'm typing in searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/43">TS</a>]

00:00:47   like as you can search while it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48   uploading trying to think of searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   that will find this so i type in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51   controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/51">TS</a>]

00:00:52   no matches ps4 no matches black plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/52">TS</a>]

00:00:56   matches but none of the ones i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   then I was thinking maybe it's not in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   photo library maybe some other trapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   in some iOS device so i start putting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   and I think it was actually trapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/64">TS</a>]

00:01:05   my phone so now i'm uploading from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   phone like photos that appears again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08   Tina has the library not me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   right so it's her photo things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   uploading from google photos of Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   from our mac is pushing those pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   up but it's not pushing any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/77">TS</a>]

00:01:18   pictures up from my phone so now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   trying to push up my phone into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/80">TS</a>]

00:01:21   thing and I just had control into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   search and found two pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   gamecube controllers and a picture of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   brother getting a playstation 2 in 2004 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   seriously it's magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   it is but it still didn't find the damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   picture i mean i found myself eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35   because I figured out that i had tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   it and i found the tweet based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38   searching the tweet so all that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41   still didn't you still didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/101">TS</a>]

00:01:42   find the 5th with 3 it found three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   controllers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   the problem is I don't know if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46   picture has been pushed tapenade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   whole time we've been recording my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/108">TS</a>]

00:01:49   has been in theory pushing photos up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/109">TS</a>]

00:01:53   I guessing that's where it is and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   seven thousand photos that are on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55   phone anyway it did find pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   controller so I have some help now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/117">TS</a>]

00:02:01   should do a little bit of John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   favorite thing in the world we should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   some follow-up and there's some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   very sad follow-up there's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   be a 5k monitor at WCC but we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   but that's the rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   was there was there ever going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   5k monitor was that really a strong we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   did a whole show last week all about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   the hardware that we were excited for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   and then like immediately after that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   the rumor sites said you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   looking for a five-game honors with gpus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   forget it you're looking for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   macbooks those might not even be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   no hardware it's gonna be all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/150">TS</a>]

00:02:31   software don't get your hopes up and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   course no one even bothered to reshoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/153">TS</a>]

00:02:34   the idea that they're going to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35   new back progress don't care about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36   enough to even put on the Riverside yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   there's not gonna be any of those either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/158">TS</a>]

00:02:39   so yesterday I was all helpful and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   the prevalent rumors are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   hardware you hope for may still come but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   not at WTC that's not a huge surprise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50   mean the the nomadic prose is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   bit surprising but i would expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   display to come with an expert to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/175">TS</a>]

00:02:56   mac pro and whether it's the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   is the macbook pro or not who knows but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   it does seem like it's probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   be a a high-end mostly pro products for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/183">TS</a>]

00:03:07   a while I don't think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   who are like mid-range buyers who have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/188">TS</a>]

00:03:11   13 macbook pro are going to be buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   the very first Apple 5k display it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   probably going to be expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   it's probably going to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/197">TS</a>]

00:03:18   there's this big special thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   require the brand-new computers i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   wouldn't expect this to be like just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   average consumer release i would expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/204">TS</a>]

00:03:25   us to wait for the background to the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   pro but I could be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   I i would think the opposite i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   think that the whole purpose of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   monitor is so people who buy macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   pros can have a really big screen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   they said down at their desks and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   the whole point of this entire product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38   is that's why it's got a GPU inside so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   even our lowly macbooks that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43   actually have a GPU that can drive it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/225">TS</a>]

00:03:45   the GPU is inside the screen is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   to drive it you're not going to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48   games on it or anything but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/228">TS</a>]

00:03:49   it's enough to actually drive that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   pixels so now look at all these great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   laptops they're great laptops on the go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   and sit down at your desk and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56   essentially a 5k imac style screen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   front of you and they don't even mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   the macro because who the hell cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02   about the mac pro because if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   like a regular update like when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/244">TS</a>]

00:04:05   when they went from 27 inch LED 227's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/245">TS</a>]

00:04:09   thunderbolt display that was like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10   we already know how to make screens this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   sighs we've been making them for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   for a few years for that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   before that we made 30 inch screens for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16   even more years like this is no big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   it's like mostly existing technology put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   together in a new way in this case this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   is a 5k screen this is still very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   Empress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/265">TS</a>]

00:04:25   but there still are very few five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   countries in the market so you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28   figure out this is going to be expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   it's probably not going to be a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   dollars it's probably gonna be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33   more and even even if it was a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   dollars that still compared to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   monitors that people would have to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   on investment that's that's still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   pretty expensive monitor so I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   expect this to be a high-end thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   first and then maybe in a few years when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48   they update it next to add whatever new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   you know screen construction technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53   developed by then then it'll be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   consumer e but i would expect version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   yeah i agree with that uh however I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   think that there is some very very big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   demand for this say for example you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   in iOS developer and say just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   sake of discussion you have an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   job and you go to an office and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   office issues you a 15-inch macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   but they issue you to lenovo displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/317">TS</a>]

00:05:21   that are of unremarkable resolution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24   so every time you're running iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/324">TS</a>]

00:05:28   simulator you're running it at like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/328">TS</a>]

00:05:29   size even for like an iphone 6 simulator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   so that can cause problems such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   you're doing something with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   uitableview and you don't want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/337">TS</a>]

00:05:40   look like a uitableview you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   any separators between all the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   table these cells and when you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   looking at the simulator stationary the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   divider lines separator lines between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51   each cell disappear because it's at half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   zoom and then suddenly you go and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   start playing around with your UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58   tableview and suddenly these magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   lines appear from nothingness and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   very freaking annoying because you wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   you had noticed in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   very not a very big deal but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   annoying and then you come home to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   beautiful 5k display and think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   yourself wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   would it be nice to have something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   this at work so i didn't have to run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15   simulator at half height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   I mean just hypothetically anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   would kill for a thunderbolt retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/379">TS</a>]

00:06:23   display i would kill both of you for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   thunderbolt display thanks at work hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   yeah i know you are on I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   work would pay for it because I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   with you it'll probably be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   expensive but man would that be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/394">TS</a>]

00:06:38   Jericho and before the entire internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   or writes me I i have the two displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44   like and I have a standing desk so I run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   my macbook pro in clamshell mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/406">TS</a>]

00:06:50   yes I know you don't think that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   idea yes I'm aware that there's heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   potential heat problems yes I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   simulator would be able to run full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56   height if i did use the onboard display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   I understand all those things I I'm my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   own man and i do what i want to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   right which one of you decided you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   wanted to talk about the iphone SE you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   know it's all about it's all like me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/427">TS</a>]

00:07:08   add follow-up to the show yeah it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   big as a lot of people sent us this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   follow-up it last week we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16   the upcoming iPhone and how it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   look very similar to the 6 and 6s and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   that was a big deal and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   ending points was like this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25   third shot at the same form factor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   if they do a really good job like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   second second iteration phones usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   are really good and the third one could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   be even better and we talked about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   the reasons that might be and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   people said hey the iphone SE is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   basically the third shot at the same for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   rfactor albeit separated in time by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   know by quite a few other models in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   between but it really is the third shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   at five style form factor i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   the SE change that much about the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51   like it's not like the second successive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52   being like les bendiga and less slippery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   good to you know trying to do minut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57   changes you might not even notice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   it's still improving on the six does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   SEC improve on the 5s case in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   other than possibly being cheaper to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   manufacture because they didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   shiny chamfered edge around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11   gosh yeah I don't remember but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14   there's nothing i can think of and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15   guess different colors but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   everyone loves a phone i see i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   know if it's because the third shot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   the same form factor but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   precedent for doing doing a phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   they had two models experience with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/504">TS</a>]

00:08:25   doing it again and they can do it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/508">TS</a>]

00:08:28   alright and yet another instance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/508">TS</a>]

00:08:32   lowercase M act 0 capital OS mac OS as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/512">TS</a>]

00:08:37   husbands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/517">TS</a>]

00:08:37   yeah that's exactly how you pronounce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   lowercase M back in echo s yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/519">TS</a>]

00:08:42   how you pronounce it had been seen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45   the wild but apparently has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   killed and brought back to the farm well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   i think i've seen it before it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   capital m and some like apple thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56   just looks like they forgot the space or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   another thing makes sense that anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   they hadn't seen before an apple stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01   with the capital and I think quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   removed as we're recording this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   now or you can click on the URL that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   were pasted into the chatroom you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   see an official apple page that lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   it's already been changed already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   checked it that you like five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   before the show started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17   well is is there a spy in our document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   you know it was this is a 9to5 mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/559">TS</a>]

00:09:23   was tweeted all over the place is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24   secret URL that we just figured out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   I guess yeah they're on top i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   purposely check just before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   reconnected the sky to call I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   think change it like nope still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   and I copied and pasted it right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   document into the notes mere moments ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   but apparently the little elves are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   really fast anyway that's probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   fairly telling slip up because when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/580">TS</a>]

00:09:45   have the list of us all in order like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   that you know iOS Mac OS TV us and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   us they all look like the same when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   write them like that and I know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   turns out they don't rename it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   this will be a weird series of slip-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   yeah i think at this point it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   that's that's the name period if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   sorry I really hear the name macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   when like the very first macbook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   macbook pro I really hated the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   macbook at the powerbook was such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   better name so it still is a better name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   and macbook still has a terrible man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/612">TS</a>]

00:10:13   it's still I agree but I got used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   and now I don't care you know so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   something that if you if you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   lowercase mac OS okay you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   gonna suck for a little while and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   you're gonna move on and life will go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/623">TS</a>]

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00:10:46   use it a lot of people have no use it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   is so great when you want to make a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   for project go to hover they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/650">TS</a>]

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00:10:57   at no additional cost such as who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   privacy very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   and they support all the domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   extensions out there they have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   all the crazy ones like dot design dot p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06   2 dot horse all these crazy ones plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/666">TS</a>]

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00:11:16   if you want you can email them of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17   you can also call them on the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   an actual person will pick up the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   answer whatever questions you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   annoying phone trees no transfers no on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   hold no weights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/685">TS</a>]

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00:11:31   k 56 flex at checkout to save ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   percent off your first purchase thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   to her for sponsoring our show so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/695">TS</a>]

00:11:40   happy to report that Apple apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44   knew that I had not spent the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47   figure out my WWDC predictions yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50   has decided to drop some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   interesting news and thus me take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   most of the time that we're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   able to talk about Doug predictions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   instead well we'll just have to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   about some app store changes so thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   you people at Apple for timing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   appropriately because I haven't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   about my depth of predictions yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08   you can hear me fumble about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   probably about an hour and a half but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   then Marco had to go and ruin it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   having an entire podcast about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   earlier today so he's all got all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   thoughts out of a system already about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/739">TS</a>]

00:12:19   oh yeah cuz all my thoughts on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20   totally fit in 30 minutes well it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   own fault for having a short while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   save minutes 31 through 90 for you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   haha alright so what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   is that phil schiller went to I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34   was the verge that broke the news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35   that correct it was a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   sites actually I saw it on a loop first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   actually yeah wewe my twitter feed which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   is now the substitute RSS the loop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   the first one that tweeted about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   i think i saw the verge next or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   group after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   yeah loop verge Gruber Telegraph had 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51   think that was it that was all the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   I saw although be it's actually like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   who got this story and who didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   don't know how they made those decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   but you could probably read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   into the favorability of the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   outlets based on who got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   yeah it was so basically the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   that there are some substantial changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   to the appstore that are happening now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   so the first one I think is it gimme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   first one is these really suspiciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   fast a preview times that we've seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   last few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   this is not just a fluke it is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   accident and it is apparently not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   Apple has officially acknowledged that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   these things are real that yes indeed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   preview is much faster they they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   made some changes to allow it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   faster and to probably stay faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   that is really good because before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   was like well this could be an accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   that you know it just happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40   really fast but it will you know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   don't mention it ever then i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   probably go back at any time but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   that they've mentioned it in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   they've they've like brag about how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   this is it is way more likely i think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   to stay this way or order for this to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   the new target standard rather than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   a fluke i wonder if i'll get a WMD slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   now maybe like they've and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   before we even continue with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   things that the very fact that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   everything we're going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   these apps are changes is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   announced now like days before WWDC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/847">TS</a>]

00:14:11   presumably you know not saving it for WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   of this lot of speculation why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   maybe the course the party line is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   have so much good stuff to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18   about WWE just just wouldn't fit so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/858">TS</a>]

00:14:21   a couple days early here is this news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22   and the more pessimistic take is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25   enough in this announcement to cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   discussion consternation and worry among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   developers in addition to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/871">TS</a>]

00:14:32   excitement or whatever that if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   in the keynote this is all people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   be talking about afterwards and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   wants people to come out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   community not not talking about App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   Store pricing but instead talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   insert thing that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   announce yeah I mean it's AII think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48   there's a few different takes on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   that are plausible certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   pessimistic take of like well developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   are gonna hate these changes i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   think that was it honestly because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   think most of these changes are good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   not hate them but that they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   talking about them they'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   top-of-mind for developers is not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   know it goes towards RWC being yet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   developers conference monies key notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   for the public and they didn't want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   want developer oriented news dominating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   their let's talk to the public one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   a year that's not a special event thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   well that's the thing too I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   have to realize like yeah there are 5000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   developers who watched that keynote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   and there's another you know another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   handful of thousands of developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   impact knows who probably probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   another like 10 to 15,000 developers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   are watching a keynote livestream to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   various places and there's also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   thousands and thousands thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   people who just walked the keynote is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44   their apple fans are their apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   customers or their press or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   and then whatever is announced in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   keynote gets reported on mainstream news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   gets reported all over the web is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   reported on TV on like CNN and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   this is a mass media event that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   to be the beating of of a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   conference so the focus of whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   in that main keynote is going to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   mainstream then just talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   developers you know like that thats why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   i like you know there it was also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   of surprising that Swift was controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   the key because it was so like technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   you know even though is barely unveiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   but it was but you know generally you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   know you don't see like source code on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   you know in the in the key in the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   keynote you you don't hear about a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   of low level changes here but some maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   we'll be like one of those like word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   cloud slides there's like a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   of little words on a slide and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   like rush take a picture of it can wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37   there's a whole bunch of stuff buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   there and they just kind of move on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   tell you more detail later like after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41   the public has gone away and tell you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   the session so you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   keynote is a is mostly a consumer event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50   is barely a developer keynote and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   could be that this stuff is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   mostly only relevant to developers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   so they and the stuff that they had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   they are leaving in the keynote is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02   more than this is Apple summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   announcements and getting people ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   for the big stuff that's happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   the fall so you know that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   like how last year they spent so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12   time on Apple music and developers could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   do nothing with that and that turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   neither could the public haha great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   like it was like that this is mostly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   consumer advantages and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   having some developer stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   that's of you know possibly large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   importance happen outside that main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   keynote is totally understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   absolutely the appstore of your times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   may or may not going to slide if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   did I mean you can do it the one brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   slide as we talked about earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   week review times are down isn't felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   really great everybody loves it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   answer to the question of we discuss a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   couple weeks ago if things are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   faster how might they do this we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   talk about many possibilities that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   could change the rules that govern how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   they do things that they can have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54   automated tools and there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   rumors of management changes i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   there was a couple stories about that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:00   earlier the answer from phil schiller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   when he did his media tour was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   everything we said contributed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   thing that's all its everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   improvement on the Apple staffing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   changes in policy changes i think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   group are listed so there is no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   thing that is making this faster it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   series of changes but some up to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19   status of their touting now which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20   fifty percent of apps are reviewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   within 24 hours and ninety percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   within 48 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   yeah this is this is awesome it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   so so awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   yeah I've been stunned by this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:33   think it's a good thing that the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   improvements and just trusting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   tools to suss out any like private api [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   violations and crashes potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   things like that i mean trusting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44   tools that's a good thing I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   why i write unit tests mm-hmm that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50   one of the other no i mean like it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   like this is it this kind of just shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   the potential of you know before Phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   took over the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   I don't wanna you know throw anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   under the bus or anything but it sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   seemed like it was not progressing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   all and that basically nobody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   working on progressing it and filter / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:13   not that long ago and a lot of stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16   changing and a lot of progress is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   made for the better so I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   excited like if all this change in such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   a short time while there's been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:27   you know finally somebody literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   running the store what else is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32   change you know if this is a a and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   you know in the big picture even if some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   of these things don't work out or don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   do you know it don't do as well as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40   wanted or whatever or you know make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   things harder for in certain ways or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   easier in other ways whatever happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   with these changes there that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   doing they're making changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   that's amazing because for like eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   years they changed almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   so this is this is real progress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55   this is a a rapid and dramatic change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1195">TS</a>]

00:20:00   almost all if not all for the better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   know the the again the pessimistic take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   is this was management change like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   Phil's just taken over control of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   previously didn't have control over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   when you switch in your manager on to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   new project and it's important and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   want to make a good showing they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   come out of the gate and say okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   put me in charge of this and in short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   order i did these things that made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   better isn't that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   that's a pressing need within a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:27   you know bozo corporation which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   assume Apple isn't but anyway that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   person taking the other one is we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   all excited when they finally turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   their attention to the mac pro that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36   they collected for a long time and came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37   up with this amazing radical new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   computer that shows they really do care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   about the macro pro and surely this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   means that the mac pro is off to a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43   brighter healthier future involving lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:47   of updates and lots of future changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   not that I'm predicting this for the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   store but if you want to be pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   about it and and you know it is possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:55   that there's enough is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56   the reasons why this might be a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   big dramatic changes that have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00   long time coming sort of like pent-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   demand and they'll let this stew for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   year not because they don't care anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   but even just like like the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   they're going to be court sort of let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   try a bunch of things and fail faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   whatever like I think their appetite for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12   turn in the app store rules has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   obviously increased but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   it's that great so I would expect this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   set of rules to possibly be tweaked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   sussed out over the next year and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   maybe you know I think we'd all be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   if every year they revisited the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:25   of the store and so how they did for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   year because you can't really change it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   every week what you can change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   response to you don't have enough data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:31   to know whether it's a good idea or bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:32   idea so unlike perhaps the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35   systems a yearly pretty regularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   scheduled update to appstore rules is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   reasonable idea if you tried to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   the rules radically more often than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   I think it would be too much turn for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46   I mean even if they change the change me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   with the store every two years just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   more than once every eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   yes that would still be like radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   more progressive than the way it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56   all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   yeah that bundles right sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:02   other good thing by the way about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   these changes are going to go through is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04   they all apply to all stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   including the mac app store the TV a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   OS store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   yeah alright so that's a that's faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   few times good good for Phil the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   thing is subscription pricing available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   for all app types which is by far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   most interesting and most fraught with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   doubt announcement across were only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   you know one day into this announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   but the the gist of it is that hot in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:31   previously if you want to sell an app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   the App Store the descriptions that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   to be a subscription to some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   media thing like television or like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   new service or audio or whatever and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41   subscription pricing is open to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   kinds of apps and so a quick naive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:47   reading of that could be like great then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   basically no more restrictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   previously I had to follow the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   rules to be super map now anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   just say i want to have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55   encryption app and then you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   reading the rules and you like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   what they're saying that any app can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   a significant apples you just say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   any app can potentially be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   subscription happened that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   current source of data generated one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   and I'm sure Apple clarify sure things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:09   will get worked out but right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   there's still some doubt about it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   it's hard to know entirely how to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   about this because all the debates about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   does this enable sustainable development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   is this you know all the things the mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   I'm sure talked about on his a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   podcast whose name I can never remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:25   earlier today it we don't know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:30   is going like should we indulge in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:33   speculation about how this model might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   work particular particular kinds of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   before we even know whether Apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   allow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40   yes mom we should indulge in that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   we're yeah because I mean look at so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:47   you did you just look at this as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   the most conservative reading of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   rules that they put on that page then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54   it's basically no change from what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   already had that policy was I mean there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   are some technical changes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   policy-wise it would say you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   to be a media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:02   yeah but you already didn't have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   media app like it's papers has a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   description now everyone has had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08   instapaper counts as a news thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   Evernote no it doesn't cause it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   sure when it believe me i look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   back when the woods when these first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   launched in the in the days of newsstand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   when newsstand launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19   nothing 2011 or something like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   was only newsstand apps and then shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24   afterwards I think maybe like a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   afterwards it became available to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   app that was delivering periodic content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   of some kind but it could have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   like like issues or episodes and had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   be like you know they couldn't be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   like I guess it couldn't be that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   don't know but like if you're delivering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   video because HBO going everything has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   lot of stuff outside it could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   but it had to be like episodic content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   that you know it couldn't just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48   you just have access to this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49   forever but it could be like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   access to this new thing every week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   month or whatever and then that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   quickly got like semi relaxed into kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:59   of the where it stayed between then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   now which is you could kind of do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:05   any kind of recurring service but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   it was risky weather app would approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   you or not because the definitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   around it were fairly vague as to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   would qualify but it was clear that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   have to have some kind of recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   service like some kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21   backing web service that had like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22   know cloud storage or content available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:27   on the service or something it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   was it like most apps would not qualify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   for that but all that language is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34   there though everything you just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35   that that's the problem so I I know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38   any like Branson Missouri compose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   basically asking clarification on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   and because like if you read Phil's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   comments in these interviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   it sounds like now any app can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   no matter what but if you look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   page it looks like that's not the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   looks like it's still the old rules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   it and it depends a lot like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   interpretations of some words on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   page like it has like all apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   eligible to use this but it's only up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:04   but it's appropriate for this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   these types of roles so does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   they would approve it for inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   uses it you know it it depends on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   things are but you know I think what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   going to happen is like most times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   a new app review policy gets put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   place and details aren't quite worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:21   what's almost certain to happen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   either in the next few days are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   edit the language and that page to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   more clear and to like firmly fall on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   one side or the other or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   unfortunately more likely they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   figure it out through rejections later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   this fall and then we'll kind of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   policy and that that would suck i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   that's how they do it but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   because phil is like the guy on top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:46   preview you know one in the grand scheme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   of things and because his actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   statements really strongly say otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   than that page i'm guessing this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   probably like a deviated thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   internally until very recently and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   they just kinda haven't worked out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   the details yet but i don't know is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   peace from marketing they always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   put on to give you the bright side of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   that's what this whole role is let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   tell you what's great about this so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   if it was exactly as you said where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   maybe they'll reject it maybe they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   he's not gonna come and tell you that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   gonna come and tell you it's open to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   everybody and then sort of allow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   chips fall away and I think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   update the copy on this page because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   lot of the language is about all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   have to have like a you know content or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   services or you know issues or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30   but then certain sense is explicitly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   called exactly what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   like this is no like many freemium apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   successful auto-renewal subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37   apps operated services that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   continuously supported and often require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   sustained content development that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   be like you get a new you know a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   level every week or something for a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45   or feature enhancements to retain users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:49   feature enhancements is exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   we're talking about we're saying hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52   want to add a new feature to my app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   you use to take notes with there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   service there's not even a sink service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   let's say there is no that's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   application that runs on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   I just want to add feature enhancements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   can I charge you a subscription for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   it's right there in the language but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   that every other thing on the page it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   just leads you back into the hall but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   course you have to be providing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   service or you know periodic content or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14   whatever so it's I don't think feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   enhancements was there before I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17   that it does not real to those pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18   things are on the pages right yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   don't think that language so someone put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   that those words there but then didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   get on didn't like it's like the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   the page doesn't agree with its your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:27   right kind of looks like it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28   conflicted but again the pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   take and pessimistic not because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   just mean people but founded on past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   history like the past has been very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   like the rules are kind of vague it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40   will nail it down through a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   heartbreaking rejections to a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   small developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   and then when you see their bodies fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   below you like oh don't do that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   that guy did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49   don't do that that's a waste of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:50   they can put those guys wait six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   in their app can get on the store right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52   you know you know it's gonna be James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   Thompson again he gets he gets like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   worst luck with a preview get sick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   know it's gonna be like james thompson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   come to have a calculator app and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   have a subscription and each month you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   get a new number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05   so once you have all the digits 10 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:09   two operators so he's like the stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12   making sense of calculator apps i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15   yeah yeah yeah I I i think that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:19   were apple i would do pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:23   exactly what they did which is i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   write the the verbiage verbiage however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   you pronounce the word for biaggi I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   never be right I would write the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   such that it leaves plenty of room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:35   Apple to put the kibosh on anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38   they don't think is appropriate but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:43   doesn't mean they'll actually wield that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   hammer it just means the Hammers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   available to them if they so desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48   would you do that because you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   your apple and you're trying to act like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   a big jerk because that's what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   like let's write it real vague to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   believe everyone and out so we retain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   all the power and can make arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   decisions features know Apple decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   what you want now and if you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   decide even to be honest about that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   is the worst like if you get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   seriously it's their job to come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   a policy do you want people to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   to charge money for an app that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12   adds new features every year and has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   backend services decide that before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   write the policy don't ride in biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   well how are they going to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   mechanism they're going to use to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   that decision later when they decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   reject someone zap do that now is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   thought experiment don't wait until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   comes it's so asinine to not i mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   they're in a hurry and they have to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   the sound they have decided fine but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30   saying like that is a general policy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   like retain reserve the right to like be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   vague and just let people send things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   and then decide then don't wait for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   to happen with relapse the run a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   experiment and decide now they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   able to decide i think very clearly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   this a valid thing to do for just plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   old apps that ad features that have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   back-end service and no peer at content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   yes or no pick something now write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   down clearly i I'm not even a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   but i'm super angered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   inability to communicate clearly on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   topic and if it's just an error in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   text into fixing three days then find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   you no good on Apple you know i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   give them break it's only been a day but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   I don't buy that whole this is what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   would do too because it remains maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10   power for me like that's gross right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   and the big thing is like this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   in addition to you know hurting all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   biggest developers to her and try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   and hurting you know new stuff what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   is really going to hurt if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:23   clarify this or if they don't clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   this or if it stays in in the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   restrictive interpretation of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   things which is only apps with services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   and content stuff then with this won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   apply to things like a pro content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35   editing or pro content creation apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   that seems like a perfect candidate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   subscription pricing in the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41   something like you know if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   have like a pro image editor or pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   audio editor or you know the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   creating a drawing pro drawing apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   pro apps usually don't have backing web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:52   services usually don't have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   magazine built into them like what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   you can have a backing drm service like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   i was saying before shot don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   back in service but it does just for DRM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   but I guess you don't know what has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   this be hansberry's nobody wants you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   know it pro apps are a perfect use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   first subscription pricing on an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   because it kind of solves free trials it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:14   completely in my opinion solves upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   if you can get people to pay and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   people who are most likely to pay our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   people who use pro apps to get advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   functionality on things like their ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   pro is that they're like desperate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   amazing software on it seems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   is the most clear need a first edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   pricing is like you know a video apps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:35   the appletv be pro stuff on the ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   if they don't clarify this rule I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   know it would be royally stupid for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   pro app developers to start developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   their pro a porter pro app over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   ipad or the iphone is you know suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   you make like an amazing you know music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   app for for pros or if profoto avenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   you bring it to ipad you won't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   charge like 40 bucks a year or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59   and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   oh you can't do it rejected sorry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   don't have a web service like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   horrible and and most smart business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07   people won't even start the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:08   clarified so it seems like it this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   great way to incent or incentivize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   thanks to phil's quotes on these on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   these websites it looks like incense is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   actually a word I'd I thought the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   thing I was like wait I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21   incentivize I guess not I guess I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   wrong yeah I looked it up it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   Apple's dictionary on on on max so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   assume it's a real so I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   thinking of em a cost that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33   thinking about his ex people going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:37   hit a solo voy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:38   yes anyway but yeah I get so anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   it this is a great incentive for pro app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:44   development on iOS or wood or would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   if they were clear about it and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   and tributaries it's not as if this rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:52   this new rule necessarily needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   the thing that solves the problem we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   identified as a potential problem it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   could be that these changes just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   addressing that which is fine too but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   they think they're addressing it for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   the reasons morrow said they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03   really because pro at the reason perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   are scared away from other you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   ipad pro and to some degree these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   you know the mac app store some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:13   yeah well all apps are so you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   us just because the process but I'm it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   that they don't think they can't be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   that there is a business model that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   support sustained development of a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22   application that's and because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   so expensive because they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   because the abbey barrier to entry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   like what does it take to make a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30   full-featured pro application at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   gate that takes a lot of money initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33   you have to have a plan going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   you could try like I think it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   fun to make it you know a silly free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   play game you know or 99-cent thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   you can try that and it can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43   throwaway thing if you have the money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   spare but if you're going to embark on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   making a pro app you have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   solid go-to-market strategy where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   understand how it's going to be sold how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   you're going to get money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53   how are you going to fund development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   are you gonna make the money back that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   you spend on it and how you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57   continue to pay for it and that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   uncertainty still exists if these rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   are still fake like is that this rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   doesn't necessarily have to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   possible but when i first heard no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   subscription pricing opened all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   the first thing I thought of was finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   there's a way to sustain you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:14   basically I've had pro applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   expensive to develop full-featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   applications that are important for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   people to do their jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   aren't just put on the app store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22   then forgotten about and like you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   your money back and then you move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   the next thing that's what this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   like and again a lot of language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   almost everything phil has said makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   that clear a lot of the other language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   makes it not clear so hopefully this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   will be clarified you know again where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   we are less than 24 hours after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   announcement so maybe we're being too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   harsh but I just find it frustrating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   for the press tour to be leaning so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:46   heavily on all our hopes and dreams and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   in the actual text of all the web pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   to be just making everything is clear as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   mud again you know maybe it's freaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   friday or i guess since it's Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   wacky wednesday because Marco is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   SuperDuper enthusiastic and chipper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   about this and I'm I don't know man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   don't know how i feel about this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05   think the reason I'm having hauling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   little bit is because looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10   from the perspective of a very cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   consumer who is happy to pay for apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   for sure but I don't want every app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:19   is even remotely decent to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   themselves as oh I certainly am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25   professional app and I can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   subscription and i can charge you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   five or ten or fifteen or twenty bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   year because i'm worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32   where some apps like twee pop I freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   live in Tweetbot and overcast actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   spend a lot of time and overcast i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   pay twenty dollars a year for those apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   but there's a lot of apps that i worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:45   their developers will think oh we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   definitely a pro app we deserve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   subscription pricing blah blah where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   really don't think that's the case I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53   think it should be there a one-time fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   or perhaps one time in a purchase or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   something along those lines and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   know i just i'm hopeful that this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   solve all of our problems like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   Marco seems to think that it will but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:08   really just don't want to end up paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11   a monthly fee or yearly fee or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   what-have-you for every damn app on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   home screen it'll sort itself out though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   it'll sort of somehow in the market like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18   it's not going to developers are free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   try whatever they want but if it but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   don't think i don't think these rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   changes especially in the short term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   will change what people are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   for applications all it will do is make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33   it so that the sort of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   unrealized online marketing with Pickard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   patronage there's untapped money like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   money that people would be willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   give but have no way to give to stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   the development of the apps that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   regularly like that's what basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   patron is like you care enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   overcast you want to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48   overcast continues to exist you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   subscribe right and like you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   listened to have to use all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   that you would gladly subscribe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   without any kind of description and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   without like a patronage thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59   Marcos doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   there's no one someone buys it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   there's no way for them to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   money unless market that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   where he makes an entirely new overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   to and you know all the things we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   talked about in the past right so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   releases that money from the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   are willing to pay it but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11   make everyone else suddenly willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   pay way more for the software they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   now we could make developers be all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   oh I want to try this the hot new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   but those developers will be sad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   they'll find out what is the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   appetite to pay a monthly subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23   for apt they'll realize that many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   you know installed there 99 cents that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27   never looked at it again or you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30   or whatever like i don't i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   you have too much to worry about because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33   I really don't think this will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   the hearts and minds of users in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   short term especially and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   developers change their plans they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41   be punished by not getting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   sales and people stop using their app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   and move to competitors and then they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45   change back and we'll sort of settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   down again right that's the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   that i agree with you that users aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   going to look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52   generally speaking that differently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   what I'm worried about is that even in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   run-of-the-mill developer with a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   but not world-class app is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   think oh well darn it my apps great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   I think everyone is gonna pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   subscription for me and you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   that this will kind of sauce itself out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   over time but i really hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   everyone in the app store doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   immediately run to subscription pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   when really at least on my phone in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   ipad anyway there's a very small subset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   of apps that I think really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   consider subscription pricing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   think really should that should be worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:30   it and granted by handful my five apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:34   are different than your five apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   different from archos five apps so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   that will sort itself out that way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   well but I don't know I just really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   and the app store doesn't immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   run subscription pricing i I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   from a number of people now saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   basically especially the same sentiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   of you know III as user don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:55   everything on my phone and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   sudden be charging me like two dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   month or whatever to some degree that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   reasonable to some degree jon is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   that the market will sort this out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05   and also to some degree i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   an improvement over the reality that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   have now so right now if you consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   the example of say tweet by like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14   mentioning tweet by releases a brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   version of the app and teapot is a paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   upfront app and then about every one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   year too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   yeah they they release a new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23   that is a brand new standalone app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   what is a few blocks like five bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   four bucks whatever so basically you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   already you're almost already paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   three or four hours a year for thuy pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   if you move to subscription pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   there's not really much of a change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   except it's easier and better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   everybody was a psychological change you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   know they don't want to sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   another Zealander online Parliament no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   I'll get there but so you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   the customers like you don't have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   through the stupid hoops of like will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54   download the new app that true hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   transfer all your accounts over delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   the old apt change all your settings all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   the stupid stuff like a you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   avoids all that all the cumbersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   complexity of like replacing the paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   app with the next paid version do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   developers will make more money this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   because of the new 8515 split that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   get in years two through infinity which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   is a whole other thing that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   cool and most likely related to appletv [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20   negotiations but you know with look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   video providers and possibly amazon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   that but anyway the consumer side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   this is it everyone saying you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   don't want everything on my screen all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   of a sudden charge me you know X dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   a month if you instead think about it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   X dollars a year which is probably going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   to be a more common price point because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   you don't want to ideally you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   to be like bugging people every like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   don't want to be reminding people every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   month that they could cancel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   subscription if they want to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   because every time that email comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   for Apple saying follow instructions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   about to renew again in a few days or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   whatever like that's that's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   prompt for people to cancel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   subscription so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   really want to do that if you can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   if you can charge a few dollars a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   instead of a few dollars a month that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   probably a better idea as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   can still make enough money that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   so if you think about like you know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   it from like a paid app perspective like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   if you're if you're paying five bucks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   four bucks for three bucks every year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   18 months whatever whatever look at new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21   standalone paid app version of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22   that's upgrade upgrade that way versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   if you have like a four-hour year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26   subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   it's not that different and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   actually way easier for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   with description so i think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   kind of thing we're not every Apple do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   it in fact i would guess very few actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   do it for the same reason very few after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   paid upfront anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40   most people won't pay for most apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   that's not going to change most apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   still going to be free with garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   inside of them to fund it somehow most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   apps are still going to be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   you don't really have to pay for really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   anything but you could pay if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   to all the big you know in a purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   Premium your mind trick games are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   going to make all the money in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   store all those like all the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   forces around this aren't really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   to change that much as far as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   as far as I can guess what will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   is apps that are already now earning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:12   money through some way that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   bit clunkier now have a smoother easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   way to do it where they will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   also make more in the process and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   easier for both them and for users so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   you know don't think about it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   everything on your homescreen charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   two hours a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   think about it as maybe two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   apps that you really use gonna charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   you four bucks a year thats that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   likely to be the outcome anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   it that way it's pretty awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   well i agree i completely agree I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   hope that the people who are writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   these apps that the developers writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   these apps have the self-awareness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   realize whether or not it's appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   for them to to move to subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:51   pricing and if they don't realize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   that's why coming back around I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   some of this verbiage is written the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   it is on the website that gives Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   the the leverage and ammunition with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   which is already have the leverage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   the ammunition with which to say now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   this is not an appropriate use of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09   again that the market will sort this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   like developers will very very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   learn that you know pricing well above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:17   what people are willing to pay for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18   app is is probably going to work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   them on the other hand you know suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   you have an app on your home screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   then they and they start charging for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   bucks a month if they can make enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   money doing it that way and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   want to pay good for them and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   and that's you know too bad for you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   know like it so yeah I think that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   that again the markets work this out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   know that the developers who overpriced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   their apps past with the market will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   bear will adjust it and you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   consumer might have to pay more but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   know i would argue that prices for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   software have been artificially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53   depressed for quite some time and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   of kind of subsidized by a combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   of hope and VC money i think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:01   really good to have this option and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   every developer will use it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   implementing these these subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   is not that easy and it's kind of a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   and it you know it's it's not as easy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   putting a paid app up there you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14   like code in this and purchase and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   the backend to verify the receipts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   keep track of who subscribe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   everything so like it's not simple to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   this so not every app will do this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   if Apple to prove them which we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25   know so i think this is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   much smaller deal than you expect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   like apps as on a whole life as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   but it will make a really big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   to the relatively low percentage of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:39   that will actually abusing it and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   thing that developers who decided to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42   subscription should factor and i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   they're all are all thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45   already but like the psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   barrier to signing up for a recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50   payment even if the recurring payment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:51   actually less than what you've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:52   been paying like for example say your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   twitter client updates every year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55   every year you buy a new copy for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   bucks and they go to two years two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58   dollars a year you're like great that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   like half price you like but what if at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   the end of this year I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   upgrade right as always you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   whole like if you're signing up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   building like well how am I going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   keep track of bills how am I gonna know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   when it renews like and we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   Apple house is pretty well-liked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   terms of sending you an email letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:16   that your thing is up for renewal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19   there and let you know if the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   changes like that you know apples doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   a good job at it but just the mere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   concept of signing up for a recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   payment even if it is less money now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   less money in the long term bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   people and then the technology angle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33   and also what if i just want to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   using the old version right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   honestly like as a developer i say too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39   bad you know like so so we'll take these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   things separately first of all day like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   Superman prices like yes but as i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   before people people sure that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:49   to pay between 0 and 1 times and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:54   then have functionality is updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   forever and that's that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   sustainable right well nobody not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   you want to be updated forever it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   that you like the idea that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   that goes on in the background you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   to be aware that it exists like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   perhaps a rational in the case of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   fear that you will forget this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   existed that you're being charged you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10   know five dollars a year forever kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   like an AOL dial subscription that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   just forgot the canceled in nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   ninety-seven like that that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   talking about mostly not the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19   you just want to pay once and future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   space again say your gladly paying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   you know so you're paying like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   dollars for nuclear client every nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   months and you're happy to do is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   think it's awesome every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29   when they ask you to pay two dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   year you're like what in perpetuity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   I'm signing up for something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   know like it doesn't make sense but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   especially again especially since Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   is so good about like not letting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40   forget these things there's not as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41   you're going to not know that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:42   being built for this and everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   fact I think isn't like if you don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   something it wont autore no I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   how how good is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   no no it does that's only if you raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   the price it will it will continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   Bill you until you stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   and right now the interface to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   these descriptions is awful and buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   is something this will all be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   yeah but they have said like part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   this announcement was that all this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   getting an overhaul so it a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07   depends on the implementation details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   it really does and so we will see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   the the previous redoing subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13   system was really rough there were a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   of things about it that were really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   badly done or inconvenient or consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   hostile or developer hospital so this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   lot of this depends on the details so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   I'm just assuming with with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   predictions here i'm assuming that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28   have made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   are enough that we can overcome those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   problems I I see what you're saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   agree that it is a bigger barrier but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:38   you know the reality is paying it all as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   a big barrier and once you're over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41   hump of paying at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   yes people would choose to pay once if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   given the option of you i want to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47   four dollars once or four hours every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   year of course you're going to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   the first one but that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   sustainable like it and we've seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   software these days people expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   continuous updates and the end up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   wants model whether it's pay once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   forever or whether it's pay once every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07   like 18 months than the others upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   in separate apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   both of those are dysfunctional in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   of ways you're saying it's not feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   for developers right but i'm thinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   from from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16   customers perfectly it's perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   sustainable from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   customer because the customers like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   buy twitter client a year later that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   developers out of business because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   never could find a way to get more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   and then I pick a new Torah client the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   year goes by and then new character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   developer releases a new versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   application i can use it or not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   like like buying a new application every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   year is the model that they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:39   going on if the new application is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   the same developer find something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   sustainable from the developers correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   perspective if that new application is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   different one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:47   it's still the same money from the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   user's perspective right we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   looking from the developer's perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51   saying it's not sustainable therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   are going to go to subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54   subscriptions are not going to help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55   if Pete if your application is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   attractive enough to get people over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   heel barrier but be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   however the the other model has a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05   bunch of problems so for instance why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   are you not considering buying a mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   today John my process cost way more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12   apps i don't think that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13   applicable time I short-circuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:14   short-circuiting this analogy believe me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   it works exactly the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   why you're not buying a mac pro right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   now because crappy I don't want that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   because you know a new ones coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   no i don't i don't know that all nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   knows that well the current was three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   years old and the same that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   don't want to buy it doesn't have its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   not like a good product about you expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   there's probably going to be an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   to it coming soon and if you buy it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   you won't get the updated one for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   ya know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   although the anti-piracy i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   this is not bad i'm just i'm saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45   by the started with me giving advice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   developers hey developer you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48   of changing your applications too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49   surprising if you only think about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   this will affect your revenue you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   factoring everything you also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   factor in how unattractive the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   of a pay this amount on this interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   forever and ever until you cancel is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   people that is very unattractive to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   lot of people more so then every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:10   after my favorite app developer goes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   of business find the next client that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   want to buy for toolbox even though or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   five bucks even though it may be costing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   the user more to do it the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   people are more comfortable that and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   just because there was used to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   people have a real fear of recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   bills of all kinds like even if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27   one-dollar year it like and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30   older you get the more like younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   people may eventually get ok with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   just get used to whatever like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:35   status quo is like so if you're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:36   of age during this time I won't be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   deal but the older you get like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   trouble convincing my parents to buy two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   dollar application i could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   convince them to buy a one-dollar your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   application even if they use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   application every single day my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   have one-dollar year to spend but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   try to say what I have to pay that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   year for how long forever and if I stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55   paying do I stop being able to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   app doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:58   people do not like recurring payments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   that you're right there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03   people who don't it's not everybody a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   lot of you don't care but there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   lot of people who don't certainly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   not like I think so many of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   will wouldn't pay for these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   anyway that it's not is I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   it's as big of a problem is you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15   I'm thinking I'm thinking of applicants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   they're changing their things like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   like the the topside the upside this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:22   it is very large for applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23   like the ones the case he said we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   have applications that our phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   we hope continue to be updated improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29   that we will gladly pay a yearly fee for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   everybody has stuff like that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34   those developers now have a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   unlock that money that we were ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   give them but usually didn't have a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   to do so like so that is the big upside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   to this the only potential downsides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   developers miscalculating if their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47   application is one of those ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48   has that on tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   market like or if that on top marketers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   is big enough or whatever and so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54   you have to know as a developer who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:55   my customers who are my potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   customers if i change the description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   pricing is my it does my appt have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   much potential value to that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   potential people that it is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:04   apps you can get away with subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   or does it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07   and the the things that case was worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   about is that a hundred a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   developers will miscalculate will think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:15   that they can do it and it will be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   maybe not company killing but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   they'll be a short-term loss of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   application has a bunch of them try out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   the subscription model lose all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   customers who are willing to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26   people seek out alternatives and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   when they change their mind and realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29   that they're not the one of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   who can sustain subscription pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   then switch back into it they lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   everything and that would be like a net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   loss of like it would be your perturb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   users who lose a bunch of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   and was at like I said that the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40   will start out eventually but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   could be some short-term turn and pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   from user perspective as developers try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   things out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   yeah but ultimately i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   going to be a very short-lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   experimentation period you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   people are going to realize very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   whether this is working with them or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   and honestly most developers underpriced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   their work anyway so I think if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   opposite profitable Edward not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   people will try this now that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   that is speaking at speaking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07   short-term thing that is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   phenomenon is that if you are the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   application and a set of users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   applications that they have on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   screen or whatever to go subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   they might be like you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18   really don't like subscriptions but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   been hearing a lot of Medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   description thinking maybe i'll try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   if you are the tenth one to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   subscription fatigue may said and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25   like it like so many changes in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   store like the app store itself there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28   probably a gold rush period where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:32   can get me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:32   decide now like if you want to run this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   experiment it's probably better to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   soon rather than you know three weeks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:39   after everyone has been prompted three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   times on their home screen if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   to you know change the description or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   whatever could be the first one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   definitely an advantage and there is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   definitely a first mover advantage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   then I guess you'll find out if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   model is sustainable before anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   does i think most people don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:56   use that many apps on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   that they even pay for let alone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   would be subscription-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   i'm guessing the average number of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   on somebody's phone that are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   attempt this at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   it's probably something like three at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   most I mean like it's probably not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12   many you know that that's why I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   don't think the fatigue issue or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   like too many eels issue i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   these will be prevalent because 33 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21   fatigue the third one people are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22   be like that's it no more of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   applications asking me for subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   three is definitely over the fatigue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   bury one is the honeymoon period two is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   you're getting grumpy three is like nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   i'm out for regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   yeah i agree i really i really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   these are gonna be mostly single digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   number of dollars per year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   most people won't have a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   those in their phone except like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   the most power of the power users you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   know then it's gonna be very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   amounts per year and it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   fine and just going to be easier for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   everybody once it's all established but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   we'll see any way to stop this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   think any kind of change description to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   it to broadening it in anyway even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   it's a given whatever is a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   because I mean I'm talking about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   potential bad sides but net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   this is going to be an improvement like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   this is a positive change for all were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   arguing about is exactly how positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   because it could potentially be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   really positive or just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   positive but it's going to be positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:17   like make no mistake about that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   though it sounds like we're i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   complaining about all the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   downsides and how things can go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   like anytime there's any change people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24   can go wrong and developers can make bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   choices about how to change the pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   structure of the application or which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   applications to make but I can't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   way that this could make things worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   this is going to make things better it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35   going to make us have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36   applications on the phone it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   make it so that our favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   applications don't go out of businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41   often after whatever the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   shakeout period and people figure this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   out right and it could potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   finally solve the problem of how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   get pro level features full applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   on all of apple's platforms in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   that can be ongoing just like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   box software you after year they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   make new versions and charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   everything so and we didn't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   8515 split except mentioned briefly also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   obviously a positive change for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   everybody except for Apple you know okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:12   we respond to this week by Ringo to ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3432">TS</a>]

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00:57:19   ring video doorbell there are very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   home burglaries every 13 seconds on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   average most things happen in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   of the day with burgers ringing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   doorbell first to make sure you're away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   before they try to break into your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   now the ring video doorbell is improving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:34   stop burglaries before they happen by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35   allowing you to see and speak to through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38   the doorbell anyone approaching your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39   door using your smartphone even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   you're not home and now rings using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:44   their advanced motion detection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:45   technology to protect your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   property with the ring of security kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   this includes a ring video doorbell for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   the front door and a ring stick-up cam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   the wireless weatherproof HD camera to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   keep an eye on other parts of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   property or the side of John's car now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   the ring video doorbell and stick-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3478">TS</a>]

00:57:59   campus install minutes and working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   together they provide 24 7 monitoring of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   your entire home whether you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   there in the house or thousands of miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06   away now Casey you have one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   right at both you do in case you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   have won this time I actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   honestly like this thing a lot when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   somebody rings the doorbell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   immediately pushes to not only my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   but I've set up Aaron as a shared owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   so her phone with her own ring account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   you can answer that push and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   show you live video what's going on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   the front door it will allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:30   it will allow you like you said to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   back I really really like this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   wasn't sure what to make of it to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:36   it at first then I am definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   convert I'm really pleased with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   user link ring dot com / ATP for fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43   dollars off the ring of security kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   join the hundreds of thousands of others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46   who protect their home with the ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   video doorbell to ring calm / ATP once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   again for fifty dollars off thats ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   com /a TV thanks a lot to ring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:59   we were talking earlier about the 8515 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02   split so Apple is said if you keep if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   you have a subscription with a user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   that user keeps the subscription for at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08   least a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:09   subsequent to that first year being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   completed apple will only take fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14   percent and they will give eighty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   percent of the revenue back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   developer and John had made a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:20   offhanded comment that oh that's bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   apple and and I presume John you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   mean that no literal sense that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   for everybody except that was mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27   joking obviously it's good for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28   more people develop the app store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   all you know more sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   applications more people developed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   longer they're motivated to make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   customers happy and keep them for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   like obviously there is upside for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   but i'm saying is there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   you know it's all upside for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   getting more money and for users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   it's upside because that the price to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47   the user doesn't change at all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48   don't really care how the money split up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   except for the fact that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   probably like it that the developers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   getting more money because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54   really worried about Apple being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   cash-strapped at this point this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   great because first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   great because first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   vol shows that Apple can lower their cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   and that they're willing to selectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   lower their cut now for for the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   reason we always do they could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   didn't really say whether they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   yeah exactly so so this is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   so now they can lower their cut to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:15   incent behavior that they need or want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   so i mentioned under the radar like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   would be a great thing to do to so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21   instance like if they really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   to kind of juice or subsidized more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   growth of certain kinds of apps or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   certain platforms like if they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   say like all right anything bought an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   ipad pro would be this or anything any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   apple TV apps would have this split this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:38   is a way for them to you know turn some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   levers 22 juice development of certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   kinds of apps that they want or need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   know it's like edge I think they've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   the things like the watch in the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   TV & and the ipad pro like having having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   their app stores take off probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   slowly than apple wanted them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   I think this is it's good for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   develop incentive systems that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   use to to help juice app development in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:03   the right and in sustainable ways so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06   that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07   it's also interesting that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:08   is probably part of the negotiation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:11   things like getting netflix and HBO go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   to allow signups on the appletv you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16   and there was actually a report like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   that country code like an april that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   this was the case that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   actually getting fifteen percent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   know from the beginning on those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:23   for the longest time for the entire list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   of the app store until possibly this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   until possibly you know this Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:29   deal all developers were given the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   same terms and the and had to follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   exact same rules everybody from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   Facebook down to you know the the 123 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   note-taker lon connected like every app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42   was given the same terms and that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   very kind of like fair and democratic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   that way and and that was actually from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   understand that was kind of like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   part of the culture of the Eddy Cue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   appstore team so good on them for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   this is interesting in that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   obviously they're there have been market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   pressures for Apple to lower that rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3717">TS</a>]

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01:08:50   can you can download if you want to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   they can actually mail you a hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:55   they can you restore my mail overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   to you with fedex mail you a hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   and if you return it to them within 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   days he had a refund on the hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   I still suggest you have local backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   because local backups are just faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4145">TS</a>]

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01:09:14   case something happens to your local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15   bank is also so if you have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:16   like a fire or flood or a power surge or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:19   just human error there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   things that can affect your local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   backups as well as your main computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4162">TS</a>]

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01:10:05   alright so another big change to the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08   the appstore works you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   hey to get placement in search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14   sort of kind of i'm not entirely clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:18   on how this is all held together and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   guessing Marco you probably have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   best overall understanding of it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   can you can you take the summarizer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   chief mantle from me and kind of give us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   the quick quick and dirty version just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:31   go if you're if you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32   these search ads go to the link that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   we're gonna put the show notes apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   page on this because they they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:37   screenshots and it explains better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   we can in the text but in the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   basically the gist of this is they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   now offering search ads for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:47   so that when you search you can pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   your app to show up for certain relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   search keywords when people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   people search warrant after you can pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   for it to take there's a single spot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:58   top it's highlighted in blue so it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4258">TS</a>]

01:10:59   know you don't like fooling people into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   thinking this is a real result it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:02   like an ad it's labeled as an ally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   think you are fooling people but forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   that after years after you finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   summarizing good so it's basically it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08   very similar to what we've seen from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11   search engines like Google from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   search ads for over a decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   it's the very similar kind of thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   that and I think Apple has put in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   certain limits and controls that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:22   are better there to limit potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   abuse and annoyance and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   possible fraud issues and it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:29   they've actually a really good job at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:30   looks pretty good to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   the restrictions they put in place sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   pretty good if they work as well as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:37   I think it'll actually be a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:38   system you know and there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   lot of beds and better just briefly some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   of those restrictions are things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:44   that obviously the only one AD being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   shown at a time so you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48   worry about like a giant stack of ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:49   above the real search results because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:52   the ads only take up like at most half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   of the of the viewport of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   before you're still seeing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   whatever the top couple results are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   still going to see those pretty easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00   on screen so it's not really gonna like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   bury their the organic search results 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   worried that i saw a lot of people site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   is was basically like keyword squatting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09   of of like of bitters of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   big-budget games bidding on like on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   keywords like image editor or podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   player like just to get their big 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:18   game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:18   squatting on your trademarks like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   would actually register your products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   exact name as a as a keyword right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   exactly and and apple apple says on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27   page that you're only going to show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30   on searches for which your result would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   be relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:33   no matter how much you're willing to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   and so will see like what that means in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   practice that sounds a lot like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   data search problem apples usually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:40   very good at but we'll see i can i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:43   gonna get into the benefit of that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   least let's see what this is because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   they do this well and you know it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:51   good so far in in their press shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   we'll see how it is again if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   this well I think this is great you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   other developers are I have not heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00   from any other developers who are as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   excited about this as I am and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:03   that's a bad sign i don't know but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   you have a big budget and you want more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   growth you now have a way to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   growth you can bid on some search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   keywords or there's even what i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:12   was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   there's an option in in the screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   they show there's an option to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   specify the keywords and just let Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   kind of put you into things it thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   are relevant not just the option i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   that's the default I think you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   so that i think is more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   because honestly trying to keep track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   what keywords you should be bidding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:31   is a lot of work and a lot of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:34   voodoo and a lot of some data some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   guessing and it's just it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   makes it more work so if Apple can do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   decent enough job and get you a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   return or you know decently low cost per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   tap for automatic searches you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:48   get more places like you'll be on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   keywords you wouldn't have thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:51   that you know and if they work then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   great so that i think is interesting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   if the system works so it's a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   both people with a budget to spend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:01   get more people to download their app so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:04   that's cool and also you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:07   keep saying like oh what's what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:08   to happen to like the small developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   who can't afford this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:11   if you're a small developer trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14   trying to break into a market it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   almost impossible to get meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:19   exposure unless you like with the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:22   and and get them to write about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   somehow this is easier and more reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   and yes it costs some money but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:29   it's a crowded market sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   gotta pay some money to get noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:32   just by you have to buy promotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:33   spots if you are going to try to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:37   into a category where no one's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   going to write about your app or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   haven't gotten the kind of press you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:42   want or it's too narrow a category for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   the press to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   this is great this is a way for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   get to your customers and to be visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   if you're launching a new photo editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   there is no way you're going to show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   in that number one spot at any piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   before this you you could not show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   there if people search for image editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   and they got this one camera verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01   number one spot that's it that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   they're seeing your app doesn't stand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04   chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:05   now you have a way to get there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:08   maybe you don't do it forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   maybe you do it only like Bill your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   initial audience then you then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:12   depend on you know organic spreading of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   your app after that but this gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:17   an option where there was no option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18   before I don't see how you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   this and say this is a bad thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:21   only major valid criticism of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:25   yeah they really should make the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   search better be before worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30   things like this but ultimately ok that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   this is reality that's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   happen the old the original search will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   will get better or not separately from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39   this that is independent of this so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:42   the reality that we live in make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   happen independently i would much rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   have an app store where I as a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4545">TS</a>]

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01:16:54   during this ad campaign to acquire each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4614">TS</a>]

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01:17:30   customer but you're willing to pay two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4650">TS</a>]

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01:17:54   displayed because it is exact match for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:55   the name of an existing application in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4675">TS</a>]

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01:17:59   twitterrific keyword to make their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4679">TS</a>]

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01:18:54   showing what the App Store search looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4734">TS</a>]

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01:18:58   the fourth time did I realize they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4738">TS</a>]

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01:19:03   search results and I looked at it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4743">TS</a>]

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01:19:08   blue box in a light blue thing and so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   posted to Twitter course everyone said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4750">TS</a>]

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01:19:14   is an added you know I basically posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4754">TS</a>]

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01:19:18   times before i realized that it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:19   ad when you said that everyone looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4759">TS</a>]

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01:19:32   idea why it was blue and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4772">TS</a>]

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01:19:44   identify ads in my google search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4784">TS</a>]

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01:20:23   retailer more money to have your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4823">TS</a>]

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01:20:29   just care that all that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4829">TS</a>]

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01:21:04   searched for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4864">TS</a>]

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01:21:25   and it totally a misaligned incentives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:26   love the user was expecting now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4886">TS</a>]

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01:21:30   maybe a paid ad is just as relevant is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   that important in many cases but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4892">TS</a>]

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01:21:40   not be able to fill it with with garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4900">TS</a>]

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01:21:47   because the ads themselves can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4907">TS</a>]

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01:21:52   and add you don't get the right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4912">TS</a>]

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01:21:59   all this does is pull your icon your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   name your description everything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03   your actually entry that should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05   towards making sure that you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   it misleading and or fake at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   unfortunately as we see many times over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12   you can make it misleading application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:13   icon you can make misleading application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   name and you can make your description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:16   misleading and those can all be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   store so this doesn't really say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19   but again in theory the rule system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:22   you don't get to write your own custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:23   and so it's very classy there's only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:24   of them is limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   if everything goes well they should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:27   work out really well and still I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   that it's not even a passport no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31   how prominently apple says this is an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:34   most people i feel not realize it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   ad they could but ad and gigantic black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   letters and people like huh weird ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:41   letters because they could put this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   an advertisement surgeon general's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   warning smoking causes cancer and giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   box people would still not see it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   this is a real phenomenon happens all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   the time and apples being so super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   subtle about it there's no chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:53   people regular people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55   realize this is an endless someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:56   pointed out to them even if they notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58   the ad they be like that mean is this an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01   advanced copy or business application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:04   contain ads like it is not clear at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   now maybe it doesn't really matter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   the grand scheme of things whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:09   clear because it most of the top Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   search results are also adds and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   knows when people click on them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:14   world turns on and everything is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:15   but i think that is the final barrier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:18   a completely clean totally classy sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:22   like Donald Trump now you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   believe me you don't it yeah an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27   style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   how does Apple do advertising in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31   that avoids all the pitfalls of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:34   advertising I think they have avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:35   pretty much every single one of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   theory except for the part where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38   just absolutely cannot tell that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   thing is an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:41   well I think the reason that well one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:44   the reasons it's so hard to tell it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45   ad is one of the really great decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:49   they've made which is what you were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:50   talking about that you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:51   write an ad for your app it just shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:56   your apps search results at the top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:59   labels it as an ad and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01   really smart because then you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:02   gonna have a bunch of like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:03   obnoxious like you punch the monkey sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05   of things going on but on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:08   of the coin it makes it nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:09   indistinguishable from all the genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:12   search results below it so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   a double-edged sword but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17   absolutely take this approach over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   allowing any sort of image there in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22   you know god-awful punch the monkey sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:25   this is a much class here much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27   approach even despite the fact that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:30   forcing it to look like the search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:31   results below it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   it does kind of blend in a bit and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35   thing is not to blame them because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37   does look distinct it's not like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:38   is just like all of it but it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   the best result like that was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   gotta find the survey for the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43   but the survey result was like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44   showed people search results and others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   google but like from a search engine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:47   I asked them what do you think these top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49   results are and people would say these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:51   are the most popular results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:53   these are the most relevant results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:54   these are the results than most other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   the most other people clicked on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:57   this is what people thought those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:58   results for what they actually wears ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00   people could tell they were different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02   that they were highlighted they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:03   prominent but what they would read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05   as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:06   these are the best like it is it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   look different you can tell there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   white results and then there's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:11   blue and on top but how you interpret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13   that blueness is not built into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15   blueness like you can tell that's blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   are you colorblind know you can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:18   it's different everyone sees it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:19   different but if you ask them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   again you know prime by giving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:23   answer and say can you tell this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:24   ad you say what do you think the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   results were I bet people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   say that's the best result that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:29   one that's the most downloaded that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:30   you know like that's the highest rated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   some people are going to say even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   it says right in their face capital a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   lowercase D a tiny little blue box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   I guarantee my parents cannot see by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:38   way even if you made it bigger people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:41   won't read it or people will think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:42   meant the application contains ads which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   by the way is the thing that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:45   probably tell you when they do tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46   that contains an app purchases but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47   anyway not clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   not really apple's fault entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   probably almost nothing we can do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:53   it but it's one of the reasons that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:56   was asking me if I was for or against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:57   this change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:58   um I'm think I'm slightly against it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:01   because i don't i would rather just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:02   a really good search i see all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:04   things that Marco saying about it from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:06   user perspective how applications gain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:10   traction in the market is not my problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:11   and i just want really relevant search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   results without any ads that have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:14   skip over honestly like I as a user I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:17   mean maybe I'm biased I'm a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   and I kind of understand that the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   workings of this but like as a user I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   think it also might be helpful to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25   like you know because the searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   usually pretty pretty poor if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:30   looking for something decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:31   if an app is advertising there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:34   better i think there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:35   better chance it's a decent app because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   like all this happens that is like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   cared for it has a budget like or it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   a really good free-to-play hooks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   it's gonna it's a it's going to bankrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44   me my kids spend lots of money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   mean obviously like you know games or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   games or a different story here and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:49   games I i think we we don't usually when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:52   we're talking about like act pricing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:54   issues and so I think we aren't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   talking about games which is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:58   clarifying because games are obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00   not only are they a massive part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:03   app store and we should be talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:05   them the majority of the appstore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:06   exactly but but but they also work very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:09   differently in a lot of different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:10   and and so you know if you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:13   if you're talking apps like yunnan game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:16   apps if you're searching for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   to do something a certain type of app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   whatever the one that advertises their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   and this shows up there and that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   has deemed relevant to your search query [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:25   enough to show you that add that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:28   honestly to me is is one signal of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:31   many that you should take with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:33   whether this is the this is the one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:35   look at or not you know because it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37   know it's like having a high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:38   icon or high quality screenshot so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   know or like you know having whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   like garbage up your name with a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:43   bunch of crap or whether you leave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   fairly clean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:46   it just is one signal of many that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   can use try to figure out when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:51   searching for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:52   what should i do what should i look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:53   further into then the search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   screen like you know what way to tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   into to glance at to evaluate and decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59   whether to download or not an app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:01   has decided to pay for an ad and the can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03   pay for an ad and that is running an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:05   active ad campaign and that Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   deemed relevant those are all useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09   signals to use that same logic when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11   do Google searches you click on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:12   first five things which are all ads I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:14   don't do this which is anymore but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   oftentimes 4dr go i do pictures I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:20   that guy I I'm to kc you use DuckDuckGo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:23   you got all your photos and google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:24   phones they have every picture your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   family but you don't give them your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:27   searches right because i actually think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   that dr. go has been better for me those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   those banks shortcuts whatever they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:34   them are the best those are great those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36   docs man that sucks really getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   you they're really going now so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   like but you know in general search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:43   search result ads I do occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:45   click on because they are cases when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:47   looking for like you know it not every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:50   time certainly but sometimes sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:52   when i search amazon amazon has like has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54   sponsored listings and like sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   alternatives to products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:57   something-something on those two not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5337">TS</a>]

01:29:00   the time but sometimes I you know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:02   what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:03   and I just so you know I i use that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   again one input of many to decide what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:08   to do with these results i will see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   it works out i can see many scenarios in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12   which the people with the most money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:13   spawn spend on ads are going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15   worst developers with the worst apps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17   it's only one and realistically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   most of the time searching for a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   because of the the technique that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   already know exactly what I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:24   for I don't spend a lot of time browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:25   so maybe it's not particularly relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27   to my life but in general I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:30   like the idea of advertisements can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32   bring themselves into the store in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:35   way but you know if I can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:38   potential upside for developers on many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   fronts so if it helps more good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42   developers that helps bad developers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   guess the net win for users as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:46   yeah and and honestly if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:48   like big picture you know long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:51   stuff here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:52   I think not only does this make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:53   easier for less known developers to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:57   better known and it makes it way easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:00   launched a new app in a crowded category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02   but also long-term I think this helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:05   kind of support higher prices were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:08   if we if we're trying to move towards an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   app store where developers have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:13   reasons to charge higher prices and can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:15   sustain those prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:17   one of the ways you can get higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:18   prices is by getting your app in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:21   of a better targeted audience for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:24   to be to potentially buy it and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26   the as well help on that front also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   developers want to consider the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:31   the ads when considering how to price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   their apps will have how high they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   price them how how low they can afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   to price them are not afford to price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:38   them this is all going to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   added into the all this calculus and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   this marketing so like this will in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44   general I think helped slightly raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:47   at prices and better reward developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:51   who who can find a target market this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:53   way I mean it's AI think i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55   a really big move towards higher quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:59   more sustainable software and and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:01   it easier not harder for new developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:03   to break in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   alright so a couple of quick points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07   then we really need to get in some wdc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   talk beta will be over the summer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:12   they're not going to charge people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:13   during the beta they are not showing ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   to anyone 13 or younger which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:19   excellent and they're not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:23   any terribly crazy tracking outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:26   location tracking which you cannot be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   pretty easily turn off in settings so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:30   this is I mean as advertising goes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:34   a pretty Apple pretty classy approach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:37   it but it is still advertising in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39   place that we may or may not want it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:42   we'll see but I'm hopeful I'm hopeful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:45   mitt and this is like apples second move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:48   into a second or third depending how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   can move into google style businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:53   tried to do i add a serious kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:56   google style thing and maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:59   what you know google and facebook like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:01   their businesses are based on this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:02   of thing and so it's about time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:05   certainly google has done tons of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   style things including making their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09   hardware and making a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:10   and you know doing all this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:11   trying to have a desktop operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:12   system and facebook name is calculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:15   with on the harbourfront then they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   to make a phone once to anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   yeah you know what's good for the goose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   is good for the gander it's nice to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22   Apple like yeah I know it's nice to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:26   if I'm not that into the advertising but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   like for so long it seems that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:30   other company was willing to try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:31   the things that Apple was good at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:32   there were certain things that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   other companies that to make lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:35   money that Apple decided but not worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:38   really looking into selling ads against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:42   search is not a speculative business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   model at this point it is it is a known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:47   quantity and the fact that Apple just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49   didn't do it for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:52   other than selling this Safari search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:54   particle but that's kind of more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:55   corporate thing and then an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   building on keywords ya ever want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5577">TS</a>]

01:33:00   make more money from services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02   this couldn't work out i saw someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:03   joking in the again on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:05   pessimistic angle that the 1815 split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:08   all the extra money that the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09   make will get fun right back into apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   in the form of thing for keyword search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13   ads but hey if that is a virtuous cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15   that it produces more and more revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17   and more and more customers i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:19   everyone will still be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:20   yeah i agree let's talk to BBC swc it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:25   the thing that you two are going to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26   I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:27   thanks for that uh-huh so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:31   wednesday that we're recording the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33   eighth of june this coming monday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:36   13th of june is the big keynote and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:39   following the keynote as a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:40   state of the union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:41   so what are we expecting Apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:44   announce we are hearing no hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   we're hearing a lot of rumors about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:49   Syrian OS 10 / a mac OS what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:54   thinking let's start with Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:55   basically you know its software update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:58   that I think maybe the big thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5638">TS</a>]

01:33:59   know what what's new in iOS what's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:02   one on max what is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:04   no TV watching mean look apple now has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:07   four platforms that they are hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:10   evolving at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:11   at a steady pace you know like iOS is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:15   mean i would imagine it's got a slow at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17   some point going to mature at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:19   but you know apple always pushes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:20   one really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22   the ipad is probably has like separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   enhancements for multitasking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:25   everything so that's it was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:28   like probably especially example still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29   is pushing the ipad hard trying to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32   to save its its sales decline so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:35   know I expect to see major time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:38   energy devoted to ipad software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:39   improvements for pro use in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42   likelihood things like multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44   so you know what's new on the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46   that's gonna take some big stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:47   what's new in mac OS 12 well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:50   that's that's obviously going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:52   anything that's new you know if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54   you know any new major underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:56   technologies any new method of storing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5696">TS</a>]

01:35:00   files on the on the local disk John you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:04   know if there's anything you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06   shared technology that's gonna get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08   time and then you gotta figure like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   is going to be the first WTC since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:14   appletv was launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:15   it's probably going to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:18   Apple TV lady no major new stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20   apple TV OS whatever tos and then I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:25   honestly hope there's significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   changes to watch us too because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:28   sorry you're out you're out of time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:30   the keynote exactly like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:33   they invited us to all this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:34   developer after changes today because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:36   you know if you think about like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:38   software platforms that need to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:40   that keynote at that are especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:42   ones that are still fairly young like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:44   ipad pro and TV OS and watch us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:47   still have like lots of room for major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:49   improvements I i think it's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51   pretty funky not to mention if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53   actually shovin the app music updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   damage was rumored I hope they don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57   I think they probably will you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59   they actually shove that in there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00   that that takes even more time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   we know try to keep the keynotes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:03   under two hours so like I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:05   gonna be you know software updates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5765">TS</a>]

01:36:07   whole thing basically software software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:09   it's almost the whole time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:10   maybe maybe a little bit for Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:12   and and that's that's two hours easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:14   the thing I'm most interested in is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:17   there's been a humongous push towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:20   cloud data and big data and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:23   processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:24   yo huge quantities of data in doing its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:28   server side like Google photos as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   great example and i'm really curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   see and actually alexa from amazon Kurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:35   really curious to see what is Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:38   answer to this or maybe even not answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:41   but what is their approach to solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43   similar problems and they're not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45   necessarily with photos but just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:48   general everyone who has Alexis seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:50   fall in love with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:51   so what is Apple doing with Siri or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:55   inequivalent technology to to keep our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:58   attention on products that they create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00   and I don't know what it's gonna be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:03   I'm very curious to see what they do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:07   that department because I suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:08   they're going to do something that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   is a little bit different than everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   else a little bit more apple than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14   everyone else which is obvious but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:16   something that we didn't really expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:17   in and I'm looking forward to seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:19   what that is here Marco make his a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:21   snarky filesystem comment about new ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24   of storing it's the disk or whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:28   realize they were all entering the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:31   the the age where we say things like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:34   gonna did you tape that on TV I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:36   also taped you guys say tape that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38   should take that not I know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40   saying but I think I usually say record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42   and you may be past that but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:44   borderline in my generation we all take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46   things you know and it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:48   sense because for such a long time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50   haven't been using VCRs for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:52   that has actual tape so we still on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:54   phones and even you watch the WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56   presentations unless it's being done by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58   a very young person will talk about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:01   know dis guy or writing things the disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03   there's no disc never has been a disk in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:04   a phone right as in a round thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:07   spins but we still say disk so disc is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:09   the new tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:10   what else is new anyway speaking of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12   you know if they want to know fossil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15   that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:16   like whatever I still say 2017 is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:19   not going to see this thing on people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20   computers so 27 but you want to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22   the early i'm all for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:24   bring it on any way to more serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:26   predictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:27   I'm really said if the always rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:29   about no hardware going to be our true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31   because I'm excited about hardware but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34   you know what can you do if it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:35   the obvious ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:37   no the the mac and iOS updates because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39   we know the iOS upstate like whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:42   know that's happening the mac one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:44   also kind of know what's happening you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:45   know about a rebrand we know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:46   cerium on on the Mac I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:50   other features are going to mix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:50   that's all well and good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   based on the the marketing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:57   design of the WTC site and also all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5937">TS</a>]

01:39:00   activity on swift evolution which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:02   been totally out in the open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:03   surely there will be stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:04   about the new version of Swift I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:06   have we already know everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:07   two or three look at the mentalist all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   public you know what's going to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:10   that I don't think it's gonna be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:11   surprises they're like oh there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:12   secret Peter Swift three that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:13   reveal maybe one or two minor ones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:16   that but nothing earth-shattering but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:17   they will emphasize that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   will get a slider too and the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:20   and much more in the state of the union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:21   hey if you haven't been paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:22   Swift 3 is actually pretty difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24   with 2.2 in a bunch of ways they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:25   gonna break your apps but don't worry ! [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28   well in speaking of xcode you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:31   said that you there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:32   surprises they can have with regard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:33   Swift because it's all out in the open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:35   and i agree but they could certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37   have some surprises around xcode for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:39   example much better switch support for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41   example syntax highlighting that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:43   crash constantly for example segfaults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:46   11 going away maybe crashes even more is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:50   that a feature a bucket historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:52   speaking they've done a lot of changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:53   to 2x go to support Swift and not all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:56   them have reduced the number of crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:57   yeah so we'll see i would love God what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5997">TS</a>]

01:40:01   I ever loved to have some improvements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   tax code with regard to Swift and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   actually I like xcode I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   begrudge it like so many people seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:09   perhaps because i haven't been using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11   long enough but they're definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:13   annoyances that I run into pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:15   daily that I would read typically around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:18   Swift that I would love to see improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:20   so fingers crossed your mind that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:23   pretty much guaranteed to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:24   there's going to be a new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:25   xcode it's going to have better Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26   supports going to fewer bugs going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28   faster it's going to support all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:29   news but like that's going to happen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:30   happens every year that's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32   as well it's also that's also give me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:34   think the wild cards for me are again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:38   still sticking the software watching TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40   I don't know first water how much room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:43   there is it the things i just listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:44   you're already at the point where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:46   have room for maybe one or two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:48   segments how much can you really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:50   about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:50   NTV i also have a hundred the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:53   that one of those two platforms is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:55   going to have that much knew about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:57   just don't know which one it is right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6057">TS</a>]

01:40:58   hope its TV because the newer one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:00   the watch could really use some some TLC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:04   but i'm not quite sure what to expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:07   their TV doesn't really need a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:10   right now like but it needs a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:13   things in a remote but they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:14   to announce that WC yeah like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:16   would be a fall harbor update thing ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:18   and I honestly I'm not expecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20   appletv updated every year i'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:23   we don't get a new one this fall i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:24   guessing maybe some two-year cycle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:26   we will see that that's we'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:28   that later but the teeth tdos in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:31   like it's it's fine it's it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33   know it's not perfect but it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35   the watch really needs a lot of help in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:37   a lot of areas and and it's also as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:39   said it's also the older platform so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6099">TS</a>]

01:41:42   would expect i hope that if they if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:45   they're trying to figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:47   allocate resources here I hope watch OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49   gets more attention a reality from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:52   i've heard watch us is still like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:55   separate team from the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:56   organization but I i really hope we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:59   something significant from watch us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:02   I think we will i think i think the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:03   is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:04   anything didn't have time to do like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:06   whole rethink and revamping just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6126">TS</a>]

01:42:07   custom watch faces to get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08   applause everybody comes out smiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:10   right doesn't take much you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12   because that's a significant enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14   feature where they don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:15   really delve into all the details of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:18   water is the role of the watching balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:19   off you just do custom watched races [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   that opens up such a market and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23   will attend the sessions and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25   want to make one and people have watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26   will be excited about the idea that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   just you know i'm not saying that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   not predicting this is something going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:31   to do but all you need is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:33   announcement of that caliber it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:34   tamp down a lot of the grumbling and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:37   don't think they have I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:38   have time even the presentation if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:40   they've totally thought watch OS like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:42   Marco style we think we're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:44   we've learned a lot from years of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:46   and turns out we were totally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:47   about a hundred ways that people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:49   their watches I don't know if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:50   time to talk about that with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51   else because the my final prediction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:53   like if this is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:55   this will be a cornerstone of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:57   presentation which is really no series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6177">TS</a>]

01:42:59   coming to the mac and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:00   like if there is a radically new better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:02   version of Siri which I really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:04   there is I think Apple that will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:07   fairly big leg on the stool that is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:09   presentation just if not just simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:11   because those things are prominent now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13   with the echo and with uh Alexa and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:17   google i/o lean so heavily on that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:20   with the rumors of apple improving serie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:22   they will spend time in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:25   saying series better than ever and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:29   think they have to just show that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:31   are still there still relevant in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:33   market they were one of the the pioneers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:35   in that market and they everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:38   seemed to be eclipsing they have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:39   that at least say hey we're still here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6219">TS</a>]

01:43:41   and I think that would be what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:42   would like to say is in fact the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:45   version of Siri is the most amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6225">TS</a>]

01:43:46   thing you've ever seen and we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:47   to burn a lot of keynote time showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49   you the most people talking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51   computer that they hope to god listens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:52   to them and doesn't want to do live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:55   stage right so I don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:57   about whether a amazing new suit version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6237">TS</a>]

01:43:59   series ready but if it is i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:01   going to get a lot of time so my vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:03   this keynote I see lots of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:05   every single update has something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:07   you like and tentpole features the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:12   really new version of Siri Swift in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:15   new version of xcode is that the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:16   developer nugget and then some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18   wild card for maybe watch or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:20   else not even thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:21   yeah i forgot about Cirie but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   obviously you're totally right and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:24   like you know in the current landscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26   they they need to say something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:29   series so I i'm totally with you i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:31   i think they will present a new a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:35   version of Syria that appears to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6275">TS</a>]

01:44:37   much improved whether it is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39   very much improved we don't know yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41   it might not be but they I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:44   will definitely presented as if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:46   regardless and if there's an API even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:49   better i really really hope there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:51   serious pii think we are way past due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54   for that but that's part of the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:56   of Siri not just that listens to better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:57   with it and it's like those other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6297">TS</a>]

01:44:59   where they all have api's an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:00   doesn't yet yeah i mean if if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:02   really an API to Siri that and in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:04   it's done in a way that you know maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06   can actually take advantage of not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:08   like a handful of contain China use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:09   cases but like if it's done well and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:11   it done broadly so the lots of apps can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:13   use it for good for lots of good things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:16   it almost wouldn't matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:17   whether the weather underlying service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:18   improved at all otherwise or not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:20   that would be enough that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:22   such a big deal to do that that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:24   certainly be a much better Cirie and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:26   think the last year i think maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6326">TS</a>]

01:45:29   past I think my track record for WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:31   predictions the week before have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:32   awful like that I just like totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:34   wrong about everything thats my that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:37   just take that in Council is much easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:39   for me to do the next thing which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:41   like which announcements would you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:43   be excited about and the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:44   about it the more I think that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:46   actually be more excited by new macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48   the new file system not because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:50   the new mac pro's more need there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:51   new file system but because that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:54   like the Last Guardian I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56   wait till you know I don't have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58   to 2017 Last Guardian right guys 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:00   anyway I'm willing to wait 20 17 is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:03   file system year I'm filing it away it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:05   over there 2017 new file system if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:08   want to announce in a fine but if not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:09   will be broken up but this is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:11   of the new mac pro if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:12   keep making the mac pro it's time so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:14   will that is the b.s announcement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:17   WC will get me personally the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:19   excited is new mac pro not probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:21   nothing but most excited to almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23   anyone else in the entire audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:24   especially Casey but that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:27   I want if they do new fascism and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:30   the mac pro i'll be like you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:32   save the process until next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6392">TS</a>]

01:46:34   give me the mac pro this year because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:35   the honestly a new faucet is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:36   to help anybody not going to help my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:38   poor 2008 mac pro right now like its new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:40   faucets not even are probably run on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42   will maybe on the SSD but anyway I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:45   a new mac pro in this completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47   hardware freaky no time almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:49   not going to get one but that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:50   pie-in-the-sky dream but if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:51   pick any feasible announcement for WC is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:54   your number one what would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56   that's a really good question hmm maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6416">TS</a>]

01:47:01   if we already got like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:02   substantial app store business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:04   changes today so yeah you can pick that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:06   one died was said becomes unfeasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:08   because they were there they recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:10   this announcement said no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:11   feasible that they can't do them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:13   it's just that you got them right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:14   talking just keynote not like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16   conference just keynote announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18   basically yeah mu1 the wild-card that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:21   people are asking for the people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:22   predicting possibly is some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:25   developer tools for the ipad of xcode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:27   playgrounds or something else you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:28   some kind of developer story for ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:30   last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:30   year or the year before I thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:31   were gonna announce that I fully expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:33   has arrived Sunday but i haven't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34   enough around like to think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:36   year but who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:37   yeah that's I mean it eventually will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39   you know what's that will be the scope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:40   of it like if they wanted to bring just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:42   Swift playgrounds you didn't do just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6462">TS</a>]

01:47:46   that to the ipad without like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:48   developer tools stack that's obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:50   much smaller problem set to bring over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:52   and that is more plausible like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:54   have playgrounds to bring over like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:57   xcode for the ipad yeah i think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6477">TS</a>]

01:48:00   who are predicting that maybe don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:01   understand or don't know quite how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:04   complex of a job that would be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:05   it isn't just like the xcode interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:08   it's the entire system of you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:12   massive ecosystem ends and pile of tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:16   and frameworks and everything that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18   under xcode everything xcode is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:20   calling out to 22 all the work and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:24   all these build tools and integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:26   with other things that are part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:27   people's build needs and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:28   it it's so complex to bring over all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:31   xcode I don't think it's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:33   in the near future because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:34   depends on its common I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36   pretty near there's a reason i pad press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:38   four gigs like if I'm not saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:41   going to be this year but i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:42   totally feasible this year and next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6522">TS</a>]

01:48:44   is when you should really be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:45   lookout if it doesn't happen this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:46   because i think it's coming full on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48   xcode or just like a playground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50   equivalent obviously it will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51   different application you can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:52   short nose and everything right but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6532">TS</a>]

01:48:54   all those tools that mark was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:56   about like I said that so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58   why the ipad pro is for geeks whilst the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6538">TS</a>]

01:48:59   ipad pro 4 gigs doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:01   unless unless it is allowing for a class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03   of application that does not yet exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:04   on the ipad and one of those classes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:07   applications would be a ever-so-slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:10   cut-down version of xcode i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:12   think it has that much ram just so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6552">TS</a>]

01:49:13   multitask efficiently and well but why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:16   doesn't mine up for geeks I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:19   multipath no I I think I think long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:22   xcode will you know or did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24   developer tools will come to the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:27   but i don't think we're there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:28   because it is such a big job playground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6568">TS</a>]

01:49:31   was it some kind of like very cut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:34   subset of it maybe but like whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:38   would call like it's something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:39   would consider xcode or equivalent can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:42   you make an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:43   on the app star maybe but they're so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:47   mean there's so much there that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:51   that you need for the platform to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:53   support that it just doesn't yet or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:55   it does very clinically so far for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6595">TS</a>]

01:49:57   developer tools but it wouldn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6597">TS</a>]

01:49:59   be sandbox you know it would be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6599">TS</a>]

01:50:01   happen to you no rules would apply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6601">TS</a>]

01:50:03   that like know but it's so I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6603">TS</a>]

01:50:05   so much to bring over and so much change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6605">TS</a>]

01:50:08   and so much that like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:10   people don't worry if you just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:12   about the idea just if you start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:14   there you realize like quite how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:16   more is involved like until you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:17   start thinking about okay well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:19   bring over things like version control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:20   and package management and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:22   compilers all the linkers all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:23   libraries and all the tools and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6623">TS</a>]

01:50:25   that i think i think they're all running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:26   for gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6626">TS</a>]

01:50:27   oh geez I mean it's your menu compile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29   times will not be good know right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:32   don't know any of its already slow on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:35   like an imac he goes into building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37   bricks with project it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:39   fast you know it's something like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:41   think you know long-term I think we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:43   probably get there but I i would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:45   expect this to be imminent you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6645">TS</a>]

01:50:47   unless it is it only a very cut-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:49   version like playgrounds only yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:52   agree i had a vision in the audience was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:55   announced in my vision was xcode for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:57   ipad and now just because i had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6657">TS</a>]

01:50:58   vision I feel like it's closer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:00   other people but it doesn't make it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:02   way that wouldn't be your most exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:03   still haven't said but what you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:05   most excited about this feasible i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:08   it would probably be mac pro plus 5k but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:10   I i think it's a no Apple PR has been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:13   clearly leaking to everybody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:15   there's not gonna be any new hardware so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:17   I think that's still still feasible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:19   you can have that as your pic i had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:20   is you know what i would do I would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22   argue it's not feasible because Apple PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:24   has basically said it's not happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:26   I mean like technically feasible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:28   the reason that the appstore changes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:29   feasible because they already did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:31   not because you like you know anyway if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:33   you want to pick that I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:35   picked for you watch her out but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:36   don't wear the watch them are never mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:37   you were so excited about watch races [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39   until you stop wearing well and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41   i would certainly be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:43   developing watch faces i but i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6703">TS</a>]

01:51:45   would be I'd be more interested if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:48   watch hardware also changed have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:50   kind of always-on screen mode because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:52   that like what what now I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:54   accustomed to the regular watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:56   the one thing I really they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:58   irritates me when I when I go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6718">TS</a>]

01:52:00   the apple watch for like a day here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:01   there is the that the face isn't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:04   on so I can glance out you have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:06   for it to turn on and sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08   doesn't and you know it like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:10   adding that level of adding that amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6730">TS</a>]

01:52:11   of friction to every little interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:13   that when your lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:14   listen you're watching you aren't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:15   to it is is very just kinda just grinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6735">TS</a>]

01:52:19   like it just it just kinda it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6739">TS</a>]

01:52:21   irritating you know so for me to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:24   back into wearing the apple watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6744">TS</a>]

01:52:26   and using it for any meaningful amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:28   of time I would need I think to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:31   out the first I would want custom watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:33   faces and excited and I want to make my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:34   own of course and then second i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:37   want some kind of always-on screen and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39   don't I just don't think that's feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:40   this year you know that maybe maybe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:43   any hardware event later this year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:45   next year when our new watches unveiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:47   maybe then but honestly given given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:50   state of the watch hardware and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:52   today it doesn't seem like an always-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:55   screen mode is is even in the plans but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:57   I don't know why your inability to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6777">TS</a>]

01:53:00   one is in keeping with your top for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:02   performance exactly what it is you're i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:05   will partially not pick three options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:07   here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:07   hey your feasible announcement they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:10   would you be most excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:12   mmm SI topics far i don't know i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:19   can have answers to both of you going I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:20   already gave marcos answer should be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22   the watch face one cases answer is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:25   the new macbook pro now because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:29   gonna get 1i know what you would be most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:31   excited about you want one you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6811">TS</a>]

01:53:33   shouldn't get one you feel ashamed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35   you'd be like all those are awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:37   I think that is true that i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:39   would lost 4-1 and I would be excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:41   about one but i am pretty happy with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:44   retina 5k life at home and sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:49   now and famous Casey last words I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6829">TS</a>]

01:53:51   see anything wrong with my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6831">TS</a>]

01:53:53   macbook pro just when do you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:55   unlocking your the people seeing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:57   unlock their new MacBook Pros with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6837">TS</a>]

01:53:58   ID while you're typing in your password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:00   lock screen again and again truth now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:04   think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:05   you know what I'd this is a very odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6845">TS</a>]

01:54:08   choice and it wouldn't be during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:09   keynote i'm quite sure but I'd love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:12   see a reflection a better reflection API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:16   and Swift because I feel like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:20   reflection allows me to solve a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:21   class of problems and I include in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:24   annotations as well so in cincy sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:28   that would be attributes reflection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:31   annotations and Swift I think would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:33   really really awesome and it would help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6873">TS</a>]

01:54:36   me solve a bunch of problems that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:37   struggling to solve today there are ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6877">TS</a>]

01:54:40   around these problems are there ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6880">TS</a>]

01:54:42   solve this problem without reflection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:43   without metaprogramming but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:46   easier if i had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6886">TS</a>]

01:54:48   oh and uh I always get them backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:50   but covariance and contravariance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:51   generics better support for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:53   it's driving me up a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:55   i would say that those aren't feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:56   only because if they were coming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6896">TS</a>]

01:54:58   were to have already seen them and sweat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6898">TS</a>]

01:54:59   evolution because those are the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:01   stuff they would and they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:02   them and I think they are coming but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:04   probably not sore throat but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6904">TS</a>]

01:55:06   I want most see what we all want things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:08   that are not feasible right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:10   problem but so many things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:11   feasible like I think all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6911">TS</a>]

01:55:12   unannounced hardware is feasible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14   they'd announce it even if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:16   shipping for a long time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6916">TS</a>]

01:55:17   even a new Apple TV or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:20   that would be feasible but I well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:23   I think it's something that is truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6923">TS</a>]

01:55:25   feasible that i think i would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6925">TS</a>]

01:55:27   most amped up about is actually probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6927">TS</a>]

01:55:29   the Thunderbolt Display because it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:32   first I didn't really get the draw but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:34   now now that I'm living this life like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6934">TS</a>]

01:55:36   that we were discussing earlier where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:38   I'm really living in the simulator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:42   doing it on a non retina screen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6942">TS</a>]

01:55:44   pretty freaking miserable and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6944">TS</a>]

01:55:47   miserable enough that i would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:49   use my own personal money to buy myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:52   a thunderbolt display or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6952">TS</a>]

01:55:54   end up calling in a rednecks turn an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:56   external retina display and bringing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58   to the office and having it just live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6958">TS</a>]

01:55:59   there because it would make my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:01   professional life that much better that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6961">TS</a>]

01:56:04   Apple on 5k external displays chop-chop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6964">TS</a>]

01:56:07   yes please you know John you have to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:09   new mac pro to drive it yeah i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6969">TS</a>]

01:56:11   there is no way you're 2008 mac pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:14   driving that thing GW inside or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:15   there's no really it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:18   you'll even have Thunderbolt 1-port you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:19   don't even have USB 3 nope you need is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:22   the current my pro yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24   yeah just definitely the US base doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:26   have USBC see actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:28   alright thanks to our three sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6988">TS</a>]

01:56:30   this week ring hover and back plays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:33   we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6993">TS</a>]

01:56:34   live from California where we will be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:37   vacation always now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6997">TS</a>]

01:56:43   they didn't even mean to begin because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7003">TS</a>]

01:56:46   it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7006">TS</a>]

01:56:51   John research Marco and Casey would let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:56   him because it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7016">TS</a>]

01:57:00   accidental and you can find show know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:04   today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7024">TS</a>]

01:57:05   pvp.net and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:12   s/he yl ISS that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:18   co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7038">TS</a>]

01:57:26   Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7046">TS</a>]

01:57:39   so if you want this this big time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7059">TS</a>]

01:57:43   talked about my garbage topic at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:45   bottom of the list the change the change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7065">TS</a>]

01:57:47   of opinion you decide you love the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7067">TS</a>]

01:57:49   watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7069">TS</a>]

01:57:50   yeah Margo changes in opinion and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:54   how that's a bullet point the app so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:57   think i like the ipad now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7077">TS</a>]

01:57:59   oh god okay my you just sold the big pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:03   I thought that was like you want to big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7083">TS</a>]

01:58:04   pros and you sold yourself tipsy she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7084">TS</a>]

01:58:06   using smaller now so we got the big pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7086">TS</a>]

01:58:09   at different if thought you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:12   interested in it and she was her like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7092">TS</a>]

01:58:14   was her upgrade cycle for the ipad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7094">TS</a>]

01:58:15   her upgrade year and she ended up just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:18   not really liking it that much love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7098">TS</a>]

01:58:20   pencil support but it was just so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:22   she kept her to her regular-sized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7102">TS</a>]

01:58:25   10-inch I've had around also had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7105">TS</a>]

01:58:27   ipads if you're not my core cgpgrey is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7107">TS</a>]

01:58:30   kind of you know it's it's burdensome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7110">TS</a>]

01:58:32   and a little bit wasteful and in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7112">TS</a>]

01:58:34   ways so you know from for most people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:37   she decided she said I could have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7117">TS</a>]

01:58:39   big Pro and she wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7119">TS</a>]

01:58:42   we got her one of the new baby present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7122">TS</a>]

01:58:43   came out because you know she wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:45   pencil support we wanted to consolidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:46   so it's got a new baby bro and I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7126">TS</a>]

01:58:49   big one and the big 1i didn't have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7129">TS</a>]

01:58:52   to do with you know it's like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7132">TS</a>]

01:58:54   this is not for me at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:56   so since neither was reading the big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7136">TS</a>]

01:58:58   we sold it the baby pro though one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7138">TS</a>]

01:59:00   i noticed with during the brief time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7140">TS</a>]

01:59:02   found the big one and then I verified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7142">TS</a>]

01:59:04   with baby pro is that a I do like pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7144">TS</a>]

01:59:06   support occasionally not not all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7146">TS</a>]

01:59:09   time but occasionally and be i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7149">TS</a>]

01:59:12   like the speakers and I mean when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:15   first announced the the you know major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:18   upgrade to the speakers for the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:19   I thought okay who cares you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7159">TS</a>]

01:59:22   guess they had all the space to give to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7162">TS</a>]

01:59:24   something I guess shove shove better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:25   speakers and they're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7165">TS</a>]

01:59:27   I didn't think it was a big deal when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7167">TS</a>]

01:59:28   amazon had their had their you know crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7168">TS</a>]

01:59:31   tablets a few years ago and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:32   their everything how great their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7172">TS</a>]

01:59:33   sandwich I thought not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7173">TS</a>]

01:59:35   who cares it's a metabolite who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:36   but as I mentioned before I listen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7176">TS</a>]

01:59:40   lot of podcasts through the built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7180">TS</a>]

01:59:42   speakers in my devices when during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:45   brief time that I had the giant iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7185">TS</a>]

01:59:47   I use it a lot to listen to overcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:51   the kitchen and living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7191">TS</a>]

01:59:52   this is the space and efficient approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:54   by the way I i know it's so so I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7194">TS</a>]

01:59:58   a lot of that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7198">TS</a>]

01:59:58   a lot of that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7198">TS</a>]

02:00:00   especially in the kitchen is so good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:01   be able you know maybe maybe have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7201">TS</a>]

02:00:02   recipe displayed or something but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7202">TS</a>]

02:00:04   had to have that be so you know so nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:07   and loud and clear with those speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7207">TS</a>]

02:00:09   it was so great to have that as like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:12   kitchen and and and dining room speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:14   was it uses a tray to carry food into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7214">TS</a>]

02:00:17   the new table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:18   exactly yeah yeah I basically fell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7218">TS</a>]

02:00:21   love with the speaker's the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7221">TS</a>]

02:00:22   once the speakers were you know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24   was using it constantly speakers well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:26   that also meant that solves another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:28   problem i always have but i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7228">TS</a>]

02:00:29   an ipad which is whenever I want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7229">TS</a>]

02:00:31   be like there's like all I want my i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7231">TS</a>]

02:00:34   like to use the ipad on the couch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7234">TS</a>]

02:00:35   now but it's upstairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7235">TS</a>]

02:00:36   doesn't matter whatever so it was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7236">TS</a>]

02:00:38   like it not in the same room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7238">TS</a>]

02:00:39   well i'm using it every day in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7239">TS</a>]

02:00:41   kitchen so it was always there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7241">TS</a>]

02:00:43   always in the same spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:45   it was always either their extra plugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7245">TS</a>]

02:00:47   always either plugged in or had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:48   been plugged into is always charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7248">TS</a>]

02:00:49   always there i was using it frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7249">TS</a>]

02:00:52   enough that it was always like at hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7252">TS</a>]

02:00:53   so i started using it more i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7253">TS</a>]

02:00:56   using it like you know after we cook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7256">TS</a>]

02:00:58   then go and maybe go watch some TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7258">TS</a>]

02:01:00   before bed i would bring that head over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7260">TS</a>]

02:01:02   to the captures it was nearby and browse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7262">TS</a>]

02:01:05   the web and stuff on there instead of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7265">TS</a>]

02:01:07   my phone and you know it's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7267">TS</a>]

02:01:09   more pleasant when you have more screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7269">TS</a>]

02:01:10   space if if if you have one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7270">TS</a>]

02:01:11   devices at hand you want to use it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7271">TS</a>]

02:01:13   usually better start using more cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7273">TS</a>]

02:01:15   was my usage pattern change the speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7275">TS</a>]

02:01:18   were so good that would want to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7278">TS</a>]

02:01:20   constantly for that purpose so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7280">TS</a>]

02:01:22   always around for other purposes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7282">TS</a>]

02:01:24   big Pro is way too big for the form for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7284">TS</a>]

02:01:27   that kind of use it is just it's so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7287">TS</a>]

02:01:28   that you know it the the big pro i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7288">TS</a>]

02:01:31   is really good if you're using it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7291">TS</a>]

02:01:34   little like as an ipad pro user if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7294">TS</a>]

02:01:37   you're using it like at four major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7297">TS</a>]

02:01:39   productivity use for major multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7299">TS</a>]

02:01:42   use uses where you really take advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7302">TS</a>]

02:01:44   of all that screen space not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7304">TS</a>]

02:01:47   browsing Twitter and the web when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7307">TS</a>]

02:01:50   watching TV or trying to read or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7310">TS</a>]

02:01:51   something like that that's it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7311">TS</a>]

02:01:52   not great for that and so we decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7312">TS</a>]

02:01:55   sell it and tiff gotten a baby pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7315">TS</a>]

02:01:58   then I got a baby pro two and i sold all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7318">TS</a>]

02:02:01   my other eye pads all the previous ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7321">TS</a>]

02:02:03   I don't need any of them anymore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7323">TS</a>]

02:02:04   I don't really know my in my app runs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7324">TS</a>]

02:02:06   the ipad but not everybody uses it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7326">TS</a>]

02:02:08   so it i don't have to like worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7328">TS</a>]

02:02:10   what if i have a bug on the ipad 3 know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7330">TS</a>]

02:02:12   I hasn't happened in years so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7332">TS</a>]

02:02:15   need to keep always around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7335">TS</a>]

02:02:16   so every other one we both now have baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7336">TS</a>]

02:02:19   pros i've been using it everyday i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7339">TS</a>]

02:02:23   been using it heavily and it's it's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7343">TS</a>]

02:02:25   been i think almost a month it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7345">TS</a>]

02:02:28   awhile so I so it's AII now i'm using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7348">TS</a>]

02:02:32   more often more per day and it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7352">TS</a>]

02:02:36   longer since i bought it was still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7356">TS</a>]

02:02:38   it than any previous i've had over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7358">TS</a>]

02:02:39   around I think it's actually sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7359">TS</a>]

02:02:41   now because it because it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7361">TS</a>]

02:02:44   always at hand always using it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7364">TS</a>]

02:02:46   sound i was using it for overcast so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7366">TS</a>]

02:02:48   it's because it's always around that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7368">TS</a>]

02:02:50   fixed the main problem was habitat which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7370">TS</a>]

02:02:52   is it's never what I wanted to be so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7372">TS</a>]

02:02:54   just don't use it and so now i'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7374">TS</a>]

02:02:55   into things like I wonder how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7375">TS</a>]

02:02:57   I could do want you know obviously i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7377">TS</a>]

02:02:59   not going to be programming on anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7379">TS</a>]

02:03:00   soon but you know I could start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7380">TS</a>]

02:03:03   answering some emails i'm getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7383">TS</a>]

02:03:04   little better the ipad typing keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7384">TS</a>]

02:03:07   you know I could I could you know can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7387">TS</a>]

02:03:08   wait for the ipad to do certain browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:10   tasks that are better on it certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7390">TS</a>]

02:03:12   shopping tasks are better on it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7392">TS</a>]

02:03:14   it's like i'm using it now I got what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7394">TS</a>]

02:03:17   what other ipad people like about it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7397">TS</a>]

02:03:19   starting to see some of these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7399">TS</a>]

02:03:20   i granted i'm nowhere near the level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7400">TS</a>]

02:03:22   like real ipad pros like federico but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7402">TS</a>]

02:03:25   just getting a little taste of it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7405">TS</a>]

02:03:28   really nice and I don't think i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7408">TS</a>]

02:03:31   to stop buying laptops because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7411">TS</a>]

02:03:34   I i like that talks a lot and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7414">TS</a>]

02:03:36   need a laptop I really the laptop but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7416">TS</a>]

02:03:38   the ipad the baby pro especially is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7418">TS</a>]

02:03:41   good and and i have i have like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7421">TS</a>]

02:03:43   pencil loop on there just I i gotta say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7423">TS</a>]

02:03:45   Mike had a little like stick on loop so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7425">TS</a>]

02:03:47   i always have a pencil i don't use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7427">TS</a>]

02:03:49   kind of the the keyboard we have 14 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7429">TS</a>]

02:03:51   plane trips but i don't i don't leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7431">TS</a>]

02:03:53   on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7433">TS</a>]

02:03:54   it's too big and heavy so just just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7434">TS</a>]

02:03:56   the regular smart cover with the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7436">TS</a>]

02:03:57   is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7437">TS</a>]

02:03:58   it's just really nice and I get it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7438">TS</a>]

02:04:02   i don't know if this is going to totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7442">TS</a>]

02:04:03   replace my portable needs forever but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7443">TS</a>]

02:04:06   but I get it now and i'm using it now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:09   a regular basis you know it's funny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7449">TS</a>]

02:04:11   say that that the keyboard is only there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7451">TS</a>]

02:04:15   for like plane trips or whatever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7455">TS</a>]

02:04:16   maybe a week or two ago I went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7456">TS</a>]

02:04:20   apple store and very very briefly played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7460">TS</a>]

02:04:24   with the baby pros keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7464">TS</a>]

02:04:26   and i am a devout ipad mini user i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7466">TS</a>]

02:04:29   really love my ipad mini I've had I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7469">TS</a>]

02:04:32   had me stay last couple cycles now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7472">TS</a>]

02:04:35   love the portability of them III think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7475">TS</a>]

02:04:37   it's the right size for me but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7477">TS</a>]

02:04:39   having tried that keyboard that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7479">TS</a>]

02:04:41   close enough to my beloved magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7481">TS</a>]

02:04:45   keyboard that it felt pretty similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7485">TS</a>]

02:04:48   I walked out of that Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7488">TS</a>]

02:04:50   thinking to myself maybe I could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7490">TS</a>]

02:04:52   full-size iPad again at which was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7492">TS</a>]

02:04:55   because i have not long for a 10 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7495">TS</a>]

02:04:59   iPad since I stopped buying them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7499">TS</a>]

02:05:02   after the ipad 3 but the keyboard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7502">TS</a>]

02:05:05   enough to make me think maybe i do want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7505">TS</a>]

02:05:07   to go back there i mean it's not not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7507">TS</a>]

02:05:10   you're wrong I'm right or vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:12   just it's funny that each of us is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7512">TS</a>]

02:05:13   having our own little thing to bring us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7513">TS</a>]

02:05:16   back to the ipad or the 10 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7516">TS</a>]

02:05:18   yeah I mean you know for me it for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7518">TS</a>]

02:05:19   was the speakers and for you can be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7519">TS</a>]

02:05:21   keep what I mean like I found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7521">TS</a>]

02:05:22   keyboard the main problem with it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7522">TS</a>]

02:05:25   the field the keys is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7525">TS</a>]

02:05:26   surprisingly not as crappy as I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7526">TS</a>]

02:05:29   it's not great but it's not it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7529">TS</a>]

02:05:30   bad as expected but the big problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7530">TS</a>]

02:05:31   me just that the additional weight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7531">TS</a>]

02:05:34   the keyboard it makes the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7534">TS</a>]

02:05:35   substantially heavier to just carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7535">TS</a>]

02:05:37   around the house and you know to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7537">TS</a>]

02:05:38   have around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7538">TS</a>]

02:05:39   that's good to know because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7539">TS</a>]

02:05:41   pick up this ipad and I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7541">TS</a>]

02:05:43   need another ipad right now so any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7543">TS</a>]

02:05:45   reason I can have can have not to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7545">TS</a>]

02:05:47   one sounds great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7547">TS</a>]

02:05:48   I never left the ipad whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7548">TS</a>]

02:05:51   using it for other things that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7551">TS</a>]

02:05:52   else using force one thing you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7552">TS</a>]

02:05:53   mention you might want to trial it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7553">TS</a>]

02:05:54   kind of a shame you're probably already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7554">TS</a>]

02:05:55   played all these games is a lot of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7555">TS</a>]

02:05:57   that you played and enjoyed our even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7557">TS</a>]

02:05:59   better on the ipad like I remember I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7559">TS</a>]

02:06:01   in my altos adventure phase i alternated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7561">TS</a>]

02:06:04   from playing on the the phone and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7564">TS</a>]

02:06:06   ipad but eventually settled on and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7566">TS</a>]

02:06:08   I was going for a real serious high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7568">TS</a>]

02:06:09   school run the ipad was the place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7569">TS</a>]

02:06:11   it just gives you much more room to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7571">TS</a>]

02:06:14   stuff in to see things without your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7574">TS</a>]

02:06:15   fingers blocking stuff and you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7575">TS</a>]

02:06:17   the graphics better even like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7577">TS</a>]

02:06:18   games where you know where you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7578">TS</a>]

02:06:20   there aren't ya reaction based games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7580">TS</a>]

02:06:23   like a what he called the isometric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7583">TS</a>]

02:06:25   perspective a thing with IDA monument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7585">TS</a>]

02:06:31   valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7591">TS</a>]

02:06:32   yeah there you go that 1i playing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7592">TS</a>]

02:06:33   ipad 2 because it just looks it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7593">TS</a>]

02:06:35   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7595">TS</a>]

02:06:35   so yeah if there any games you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7595">TS</a>]

02:06:37   play that everyone else played and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7597">TS</a>]

02:06:38   thought was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7598">TS</a>]

02:06:39   I them on your iPad and any new games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7599">TS</a>]

02:06:41   you try give them a try on your iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7601">TS</a>]

02:06:44   before you are putting them on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7604">TS</a>]

02:06:45   phone because it's a really good game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7605">TS</a>]

02:06:46   platform for those type of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7606">TS</a>]

02:06:48   yeah actually earlier today I discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7608">TS</a>]

02:06:50   that new game that the humans or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7610">TS</a>]

02:06:53   this from the world of good people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7613">TS</a>]

02:06:55   you like program wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7615">TS</a>]

02:06:56   that's what is it called a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7616">TS</a>]

02:06:58   something like the human resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7618">TS</a>]

02:07:00   something like that yeah human resource [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7620">TS</a>]

02:07:01   department things like a program in game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7621">TS</a>]

02:07:03   no wonder marker like always just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7623">TS</a>]

02:07:04   one that teaches you like assembly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7624">TS</a>]

02:07:06   something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7626">TS</a>]

02:07:07   no it's called human resources they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7627">TS</a>]

02:07:09   titles cut off so human resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7629">TS</a>]

02:07:10   something in resource machine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7630">TS</a>]

02:07:13   chatroom says they're yeah it's the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7633">TS</a>]

02:07:15   of good people so that I love really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7635">TS</a>]

02:07:16   good so I figured I loved world of goo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7636">TS</a>]

02:07:18   I figured I'd give this a shot even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7638">TS</a>]

02:07:20   though it's not the same kind of game at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7640">TS</a>]

02:07:21   all but I love their style and that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7641">TS</a>]

02:07:24   figured i get so much enjoyment of world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7644">TS</a>]

02:07:26   of goo that giving him another five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7646">TS</a>]

02:07:27   bucks even if I never even played this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7647">TS</a>]

02:07:29   game is totally worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7649">TS</a>]

02:07:30   speaking of do you own like every token [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7650">TS</a>]

02:07:32   gay man existence and I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7652">TS</a>]

02:07:34   want every one of them we certainly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7654">TS</a>]

02:07:36   many of them that is you know Adams ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7656">TS</a>]

02:07:39   is it is filled with took a book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7659">TS</a>]

02:07:41   stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7661">TS</a>]

02:07:42   among other things sago mini is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7662">TS</a>]

02:07:44   big one segment segment he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7664">TS</a>]

02:07:45   excellent children's games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7665">TS</a>]

02:07:47   yeah there was there's a profile them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7667">TS</a>]

02:07:49   the latest issue of edge magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7669">TS</a>]

02:07:51   talking about talk about and I'm i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7671">TS</a>]

02:07:53   always impressed with those in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7673">TS</a>]

02:07:54   they make so many of them and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7674">TS</a>]

02:07:56   like how can I have so many apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7676">TS</a>]

02:07:58   each one of our kids really enjoyed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7678">TS</a>]

02:08:01   and got a lot of my daughter still place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7681">TS</a>]

02:08:03   them from time to time even though she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7683">TS</a>]

02:08:05   probably out almost them now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7685">TS</a>]

02:08:07   wow that's another good example of a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7687">TS</a>]

02:08:10   whole class a whole line of games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7690">TS</a>]

02:08:12   was totally made for and for touch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7692">TS</a>]

02:08:15   could exist on other platforms is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7695">TS</a>]

02:08:17   really good and and of course better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7697">TS</a>]

02:08:19   the ipad than on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7699">TS</a>]

02:08:21   yeah well I'm glad you've joined the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7701">TS</a>]

02:08:24   ipad the ipad age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7704">TS</a>]

02:08:27   yep you and Mike both John and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7707">TS</a>]

02:08:29   left but you and micro the ipad socks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7709">TS</a>]

02:08:32   that you left when you went under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7712">TS</a>]

02:08:34   tent a little many things practically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7714">TS</a>]

02:08:35   phone sighs thing I feel like not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7715">TS</a>]

02:08:37   fine i remember i don't use a mutant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7717">TS</a>]

02:08:40   humongous phone like Mike speaking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7720">TS</a>]

02:08:43   but uh but no I ate you and Mike were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7723">TS</a>]

02:08:46   all poop on the ipad and suddenly look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7726">TS</a>]

02:08:48   who's crawling back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7728">TS</a>]

02:08:50   I'm feeling very smug about this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7730">TS</a>]

02:08:52   know the ipad pro that the big Pro was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7732">TS</a>]

02:08:55   interesting feet for people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7735">TS</a>]

02:08:56   already into for the most part and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7736">TS</a>]

02:08:58   got some new people but i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7738">TS</a>]

02:08:59   mostly like mostly appeal to people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7739">TS</a>]

02:09:01   are into it but i think the baby photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7741">TS</a>]

02:09:04   is really like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7744">TS</a>]

02:09:06   there's basically no downsides to it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:09   all unless you need more screen space to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7749">TS</a>]

02:09:11   you literally everything what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7751">TS</a>]

02:09:13   rampant ranks around there's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7753">TS</a>]

02:09:16   not just thinking how awesome is if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7756">TS</a>]

02:09:18   machine came with four gigs of ram it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7758">TS</a>]

02:09:19   would be unquestionably the best ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7759">TS</a>]

02:09:21   apple is everything such a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7761">TS</a>]

02:09:23   product like no downsides all upside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7763">TS</a>]

02:09:26   amazing as the stance that the baby pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7766">TS</a>]

02:09:28   is practically all downsides no I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7768">TS</a>]

02:09:31   upside you know whenever I just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7771">TS</a>]

02:09:33   anyway except for that one little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7773">TS</a>]

02:09:34   so close so close apple and for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7774">TS</a>]

02:09:37   it's worth I you know maybe I'm just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7777">TS</a>]

02:09:38   using it heavily enough but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7778">TS</a>]

02:09:41   amount of ram has not been a noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7781">TS</a>]

02:09:42   problem for me and it is so so good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7782">TS</a>]

02:09:46   like every other way it's it's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7786">TS</a>]

02:09:49   like a really solid release a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7789">TS</a>]

02:09:51   solid version of the ipad and it just if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7791">TS</a>]

02:09:54   it has any know it has the keyboard has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7794">TS</a>]

02:09:56   the pencil has the amazing new screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7796">TS</a>]

02:09:58   and the color stuff and they just it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7798">TS</a>]

02:10:00   it's so you know of course it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7800">TS</a>]

02:10:01   you know very lightweight and very easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7801">TS</a>]

02:10:03   to carry around and very fast I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7803">TS</a>]

02:10:05   it's just it's so good i really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7805">TS</a>]

02:10:08   like if if there's any role for ipad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7808">TS</a>]

02:10:12   your life at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7812">TS</a>]

02:10:13   this is an amazing ipad to have it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7813">TS</a>]

02:10:16   it's so so good i've even the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7816">TS</a>]

02:10:19   back case thing is even going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7819">TS</a>]

02:10:20   remember i said i had like the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7820">TS</a>]

02:10:22   cover this whole economy whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7822">TS</a>]

02:10:24   call it and I didn't know if I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7824">TS</a>]

02:10:25   to stick with it now I'm pretty firmly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7825">TS</a>]

02:10:27   in the camp that i like it i still don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7827">TS</a>]

02:10:29   like the little lip around the edge but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7829">TS</a>]

02:10:31   i do still recognize the lips me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7831">TS</a>]

02:10:32   little bit of extra grip is the border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7832">TS</a>]

02:10:34   through small but the grittiness on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7834">TS</a>]

02:10:36   back giving it more security as I rested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7836">TS</a>]

02:10:38   on like the curved or myself and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7838">TS</a>]

02:10:40   and the protection that it adds i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7840">TS</a>]

02:10:43   it probably helps that I went down from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7843">TS</a>]

02:10:44   the 32 this but i don't think i'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7844">TS</a>]

02:10:47   that that case off I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7847">TS</a>]

02:10:48   cool yeah i'm very happy with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7848">TS</a>]

02:10:51   having the front smart cover cuz it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7851">TS</a>]

02:10:52   very small and lightweight and when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7852">TS</a>]

02:10:55   concerned about the surface on i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7855">TS</a>]

02:10:56   put it facedown on the cover so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7856">TS</a>]

02:10:58   like you know scratching the back easy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7858">TS</a>]

02:11:01   was that loop thing you should send me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7861">TS</a>]

02:11:02   link to that because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7862">TS</a>]

02:11:03   been looking for a way to go w station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7863">TS</a>]

02:11:05   if I'm gonna bring my pencil with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:07   about how am I going to attach it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7867">TS</a>]

02:11:08   something sounds like you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7868">TS</a>]

02:11:09   solution to that it is the lectern 1917 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7869">TS</a>]

02:11:14   red pen loop hold on give you the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7874">TS</a>]

02:11:18   yeah it's it's made to attack spends two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7878">TS</a>]

02:11:20   notebooks but it works perfectly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7880">TS</a>]

02:11:22   then I had to go you know you stick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7882">TS</a>]

02:11:25   on and you can stick it really easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7885">TS</a>]

02:11:27   you know so if you don't worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7887">TS</a>]

02:11:28   like someone just to stick it on when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7888">TS</a>]

02:11:31   John about here and how else are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7891">TS</a>]

02:11:34   going to attack anything to your ipython [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7894">TS</a>]

02:11:36   what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7896">TS</a>]

02:11:37   IC 30 this is three separate ones it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7897">TS</a>]

02:11:39   sticky pad with a little too but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7899">TS</a>]

02:11:42   should've been through that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7902">TS</a>]

02:11:44   expect this from mike with stickers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7904">TS</a>]

02:11:46   everything with you you're sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7906">TS</a>]

02:11:47   things to your iPad and I mean normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7907">TS</a>]

02:11:48   I wouldn't stick anything to any of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7908">TS</a>]

02:11:50   things i hate being sticky and I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7910">TS</a>]

02:11:52   having stuck to my things but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7912">TS</a>]

02:11:54   provides such a good utility that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7914">TS</a>]

02:11:57   it is really worth it to reject this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7917">TS</a>]

02:12:01   that's fine you can you can reject it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7921">TS</a>]

02:12:03   will enjoy am I always available Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7923">TS</a>]

02:12:04   pencil i also have to do the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7924">TS</a>]

02:12:07   I replaced the the back cap of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7927">TS</a>]

02:12:11   pencil with the lightning cable adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7931">TS</a>]

02:12:14   to charge it like I just I keep that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7934">TS</a>]

02:12:16   there all the time which is great like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7936">TS</a>]

02:12:18   put the cat in the Box does that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7938">TS</a>]

02:12:21   with it was that after i think it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7941">TS</a>]

02:12:22   out yet still in the box do the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7942">TS</a>]

02:12:24   fish that out but i actually don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7944">TS</a>]

02:12:26   the one that has lighting hold on two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7946">TS</a>]

02:12:27   sides now my pencil can always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7947">TS</a>]

02:12:30   charged by a nearby lightning cable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7950">TS</a>]

02:12:32   for the very rare case where I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7952">TS</a>]

02:12:34   want to charge it from the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7954">TS</a>]

02:12:35   important ipad then i can take this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7955">TS</a>]

02:12:38   know quote cap off and put it in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7958">TS</a>]

02:12:39   for a minute but it's way more comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7959">TS</a>]

02:12:41   charger with the cable so it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7961">TS</a>]

02:12:43   to have to do that cap swap thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7963">TS</a>]

02:12:46   then it's just always in that mode by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7966">TS</a>]

02:12:48   default and you always have that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7968">TS</a>]

02:12:51   you always have the adapter with you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7971">TS</a>]

02:12:52   wish they would you ship it that way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7972">TS</a>]

02:12:54   I understand why they don't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7974">TS</a>]

02:12:57   Johnny I've is just too perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7977">TS</a>]

02:12:59   the other way even though it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7979">TS</a>]

02:13:01   work as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7981">TS</a>]