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170: Casey Beats John, 29–29

 

00:00:00   that is the challenge of pixel art isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   it to make a picture look good using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1">TS</a>]

00:00:04   pixels or we could rotate the pixels 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   degrees and pretends i'm crazy land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   hey everyone just me for a second we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12   just put up our 2016 t-shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   finally they're only available until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16   june third and they won't be delivered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   in time 4wd see because we took too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   to decide but these are awesome and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   think they're gonna be worth the wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   so see for yourself at ATP dot FM / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28   thanks a lot hashtag Casey was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/28">TS</a>]

00:00:33   maybe it's it's been stunning watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/33">TS</a>]

00:00:37   the fallout from fast food gate 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   which I just coined moments ago a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/40">TS</a>]

00:00:44   people have been on my side I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   say it's it's overwhelming but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   that i think the feedback I've seen has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   been roughly 5050 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   I'm counting that as a win for me I hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   that little bit of my wedding works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   exactly roughly 5050 and I declare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   victory now that would John if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   one universal truth to the internet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   that the internet believes that John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   siracusa can do not know how does not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08   universe that is fact here its own if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/68">TS</a>]

00:01:12   perhaps that's neither here nor there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   the the internet is of the belief that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   John circus can do no wrong and parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/77">TS</a>]

00:01:21   the internet have said John staircases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24   done wrong and actually it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   because some people and this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29   some people have written in and said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   I don't have an exact verbatim quote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/91">TS</a>]

00:01:32   front of me but something along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/92">TS</a>]

00:01:33   lines up I thought John could never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   wrong but he's wrong about this food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   conversation which has made me so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/98">TS</a>]

00:01:42   so to clarify John being wrong means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45   that people think subway is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   sbarros is that is that what yes or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   not in utter unequivocal abomination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54   well as in all things like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   actual points that people respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57   wear only tangentially related two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   points made by the most solid ones were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/119">TS</a>]

00:02:03   I felt like four people were just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   I like or don't like a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   restaurant that's fair that's fair right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   and because then you get all right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   we were talking about restaurants you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   I loves a boy or I hate subway i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   the bar I hate so far right but the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   who came away with the conclusion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   there was that the comparisons were made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   they were actually not made for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   comparing subway and tomorrow and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   you would rather eat in a show in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   I said I you know our mcdonalds even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   show which I said I eat subway more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   mcdonalds and yet you have people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/151">TS</a>]

00:02:32   that that meant the mcdonalds was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   than subway or are somewhat better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   mcdonalds anyway lots of people watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   on to their own particular competitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   but i would say in the realm of subways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   good subways bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   tomorrow's good sbarros bad where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   didn't try to compare the two of them it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   was about 50 50 and it's like the which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   i just googled the 1960s yell vs hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   football game which was listed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   newspaper going to find this all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   here is the famous headline which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   bury in the last sentence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   paragraph they headline after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   football game and 268 was Harvard BTL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/183">TS</a>]

00:03:06   2929 it was a game that ended in a tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10   so this is yeah Casey beats John 50-50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/193">TS</a>]

00:03:14   I'll take it I'm good with that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   not going to be complete anyway I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   just point out that literally all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21   issues are a matter of taste in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   senses of that word so they're there can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   be no victory unless one of these food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   items uh is going to kill you which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   don't think that one well that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   these issues are a matter of taste but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33   my tastes better than your taste well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   that's how it tastes works doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36   but anyway it's not that there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   definitive answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39   you know I mean goodness yet but a but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   I'd i will take the John be a John loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   to kc 5050 or Casey beats John 5050 are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/225">TS</a>]

00:03:49   you 21 you do one to 1 out of 50 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   producing as percentages but since this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52   is a football scores points so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   it's one-to-one yeah I I'll take me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   beating you with the tie that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   good in my book anyway just so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   since you don't read my ad mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02   every time i say anything somebody says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   boy usually agree with what you say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   you're really wrong about X that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   all the time that's like fifty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   of my replies are people calling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   usually agree with me but they disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   with me about insert whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   whatever you can think of has been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   yeah but to be fair people start from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20   the position of Oh John is right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   whereas without turning this into analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   I'm not as convinced people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   go that way about me well then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28   spared all the all the tweets about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   however and so disappointed in you every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/270">TS</a>]

00:04:31   time yet another great things usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   agree with everything you say Casey but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   very disappointed in your opinion on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   windows XP bumper sound or cars or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/276">TS</a>]

00:04:40   restaurant you want to go to or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   choice of you know and any other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/282">TS</a>]

00:04:45   you possibly anyway uh yeah you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   those those replies do show a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   the baseline assumption but another hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53   if that based on assumption doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   exist i don't get those tweets there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   that but all I'm gonna say is I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   take your struggle which is also real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   over looking for me haha anyway but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/300">TS</a>]

00:05:04   other I'm really happy that we kept in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   that we / Marco kept that conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   in the show because I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   really funny in and as much as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   bickering back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   listeners in between us went on I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   still appreciate the fact that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19   seemed to take it for what it was meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   to be which was yes we were killing each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   other but it was all in good fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   then we got some good feedback about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   the segment in general which made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   really happy so and like I said casing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   beats John 5050 so i'm good with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   massive overwhelming agreement that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   was fun listening to us argue and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   after-show the one person didn't like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   important marker had to say you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   literally the only person he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   we have we got literally one complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   yeah it was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46   I mean that person they believe was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   I'm sure I'm not the first person to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   this but that was not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   yeah and as it turns out the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   you were the first person to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   and the only person to say that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   thought was a lot of fun and even i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01   wanted to kill both of you particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   John because I think Marco kind of ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   up in switzerland by the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07   conversation I don't know why you focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   all your anger on me because I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10   listen to that thing and marco was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   one constantly poking and prodding you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   and anyone i was elected to bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   back to like Syria and even stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   Margo's like throwing these little bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19   then walking away with America's fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   it was not me go back but I i also was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/381">TS</a>]

00:06:25   not really a hundred percent either of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   your sides but I was mostly it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   instigator cabinet i was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   waiting mostly towards Casey side now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   that's the stuff was very good but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35   I thought that subway was less terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/395">TS</a>]

00:06:39   than sbarro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   now I know at least like when we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   at WTC in a few weeks we have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   that mall food court and they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   any of those brands that they all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   weird stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   yeah what hair is that here's the one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   can put in the after-show WBC box lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   vs any fast food sometimes box lunches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/414">TS</a>]

00:06:58   are bad sometimes they're not sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   sometimes they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   yeah it was actually the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   the box lunches is that they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08   all just tastes like whatever the salad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   dressing was they used to coat every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   ingredient that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14   yeah it's probably fair and ingredients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   themselves are often made of cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   yes so you're basically tasting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   chewy cardboard that tastes like salad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   dressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23   that's not a bad it's not about summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26   yeah although apparently had a google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   i/o which were going to talk about quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   a bit later they don't serve you lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   it seems like they don't even serve you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   a roof outside in the sun at 90-degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/454">TS</a>]

00:07:39   he's like lizards on hot rocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42   oh goodness I can't I can't handle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   already so Lina friend of Sholay assumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/465">TS</a>]

00:07:49   wrote in and said in and out does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   use frozen burger patties I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   when or how that came up i said that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   we regret the error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   they're not sorry and I'd only been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   like four times i'm not into I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   cut the fries so I know they're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   potatoes and running through machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   cutting the frys but i lumped them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   with the the like the taste more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   fast-food chain lets people get frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10   patties like McDonald's or Burger King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   up in and out does not do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   excellent yeah and i was very good but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15   think as we said the last episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   wonder if the reason i like it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   it's just because I can never have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   and if it was somewhere if it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   five guys when I could consume it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   the time I'd be like well actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   five guys and i'd be yeah yeah I had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   had in and out two times in one weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   by the second time I was like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   quality is wearing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   yep completely agree that's what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   when I was in California and I felt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   exact same way now this is more fun we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   agree with each other so yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42   give it time I don't tell me John about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/522">TS</a>]

00:08:47   tech support ads being banned from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   a couple shows back i talked to my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   falling for tech support scam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   we're by the way that the consensus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54   seems to be that these tech support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   scams really want is not to steal your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   information or and put ransomware in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   your machine of those are all definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   possible and I'm sure have happened but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   percentage-wise it seems like the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   that most of them are doing is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   scare you into thinking your computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   something wrong with it and getting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09   to sign up to a monthly fee for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   essentially do nothing so they make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   computer seem like it's haunted and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   oh you have a serious problem here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   pass five dollars a month will make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   your computer stays clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   so it's a slightly different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   fraudulent scam then the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   installs a rootkit or malware but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   can never know which one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   are doing and my mother hung up in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   person be you know without before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   finding out exactly what the scam was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33   and so wiping computer is the best thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   to do but anyway the story recently was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   that Byng Microsoft's still existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40   apparently competitor to google search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   is now banning all third-party tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   support services from being a dad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48   some of the ads they serve with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49   search results just because so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   them are fraudulent as an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   category of business that is that cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   advertise on being now again advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   I'm being maybe it's not the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/597">TS</a>]

00:09:58   thing in the world but google has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   similar things and trying to find is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   trying to get businesses that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   fraudulent stop them from buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   keywords or ads because as we all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   in the search results a lot of times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09   first two items are actually adds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   not legitimate search results and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   people i found are not good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   distinguishing what's an ad was not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   though i clearly labeled or in boxes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   whatever and I have no doubt that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   thing my mother click on was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   actually a search result but an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26   because I know she doesn't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/627">TS</a>]

00:10:27   thanks just one of the top hits all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   right so anyway it's sad this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   what could be an entirely legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   category of businesses like oh you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   problems with the computer there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/635">TS</a>]

00:10:36   market need we can help you with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   problems instead they're all just camps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   and so there's been completely pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/641">TS</a>]

00:10:41   yep and a lot of people wrote in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   regard to our conversation about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   podcasting last episode and many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/645">TS</a>]

00:10:49   tin foil hats were worn as emails are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   sent in saying out obviously apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   the source of that New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   podcasting story that it's so clear I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   didn't think that was the case but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   don't know Marco did you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   thoughts on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05   I mean it didn't paint apple on a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   good light so i don't think they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   have been the source of that story also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   like things that are Apple controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   leaks tend to read a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   also i can't recall a time the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   Times was publishing those it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   apples controlled leaks in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   have gone to the wall street journal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   Bloomberg usually so I i would not I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/686">TS</a>]

00:11:31   think it's pretty unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   basically yeah I completely agree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   especially since like the idea was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   you know like i was saying the past show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   all these things that they're suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   would just give Apple tremendous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   of power and that's bad for cod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43   podcasters and that was about to leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   people to say oh well it because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46   tremendous power and speed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   podcasters don't stop thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49   is though isn't it weird that podcasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   would say that I think about it all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   is exactly what Apple would want but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   Apple wanted to grab power in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   podcast market a could have done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   years ago and be it doesn't need to leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   anything to do it would just have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   it so I don't see the purpose of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   leak even if that even the dastardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   Apple did want on podcasting which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   totally have seemed like they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   don't need the New York Times to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11   yes it seems like you know that what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   already knew which is that Apple is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   very very big player in podcasting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   that it doesn't it's not really like top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   of their radar it's not like a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   priority for them they have much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   things to deal with so and i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   don't see that changing you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   seeing what Apple has to deal with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   other product lines various market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   pressures you know various internal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   external needs a podcasting is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   very high rating on that list and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   don't see that changing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/763">TS</a>]

00:12:44   foreseeable future it might be way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   the road but i really wouldn't assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   that it's going to suddenly become a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   thing for them we are sponsored tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/771">TS</a>]

00:12:54   by ring the ring video doorbell go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   ring dot com / ATP now there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/777">TS</a>]

00:13:01   reasons to have a video doorbell you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   actually see who's ringing your doorbell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04   and you can respond from your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   whether your home or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   so you can pretend like you're home to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   maybe ward off burglars you can tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   package delivery person hey leave it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   the doorstep I'm in the shower even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16   you're like at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17   and you know you can have package left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   all sorts of good reasons why you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   video doorbell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/801">TS</a>]

00:13:22   there's also incredibly advanced motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   detection here so that even if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   doesn't ring your doorbell ringing can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   turn itself on and alert you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   somebody is at your door looking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   your whore looking around your porch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   wherever you have it have it aimed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   this can actually help you both deter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   and prevent home break-ins and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42   actually run studies they've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   been able to been able to decrease the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   rate of home break-ins in neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   have a bunch of ring video doorbell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48   installed and home break-ins usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51   happen during the day that some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   aren't home so this could really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   out a lot i'm installing ring is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   easy it takes only minutes you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   either work with your current wiring or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   they have a built-in rechargeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/840">TS</a>]

00:14:00   battery model so John you have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   these right i installed mine i got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   they sent me one of the just the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   that's not the doorbell thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   interesting what is that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09   wrapped up like a mounting bracket you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   gotta stick anywhere and came up a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   down and you know so you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   put it over your doorbell be and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   doesn't have a button on it is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   just a camera and I put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18   guess what raising my driveway because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/858">TS</a>]

00:14:19   that's what i want to do with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   things and maybe call anybody sneaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   around your car yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   no just us every time we come home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   the kids go out and and you know stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   like that so I'm so I'm observing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   when I mean it works fine i'm amazed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/871">TS</a>]

00:14:32   that one of the batteries last thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   guess like it's basically offer asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   the entire time and then you trip the IR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   sensor it turns on i think it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   ninety percent battery has been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   there for like five days and it sends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   alerts to my iOS devices when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   motion and I can look at it and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   i can see my daughter scraping her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   bicycle again side of my car it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   i can't feel bad though for my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   because I think about it when you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   kid like you get away with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   stuff of your parents didn't see it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56   had literally have a video camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   catching them you know scraping the bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   and the side of my car feel kind of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   and they can't pin that look I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   video let's come look at it together the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   other bikes not supposed to touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/905">TS</a>]

00:15:06   car bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   yes I feel bad but yeah that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   there that's the non front door product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   because again have after my ipad ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   being stolen out of my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16   what I really wanted was to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   deal is and so far no one has come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   visit my car as far as I've been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   determine also my ipod is not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   stolen from my car yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/924">TS</a>]

00:15:25   thumbs up so far yeah maybe just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28   presence of the camera will the terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   kinda like this fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   security signs that you put on your lawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   or on your windows we don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   have a security system but this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   real camera so it is it is mostly going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   my family now it's fun i thought a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   about what you were saying about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   away with things because especially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   it came to like driving i did terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   things in my 1994 well actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   dad's 1994 saturn sl2 that really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   not designed to do the terrible things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/955">TS</a>]

00:15:55   hold that thought of expenses automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   yeah fair enough but suffice to say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/957">TS</a>]

00:16:01   find my friends or whatever was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   thing or glimpse was the thing back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   i was 16 i would have a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   childhood than I did so our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   get free extra fedex shipping when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   go to ring dot com / ATP that your ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   dot com / ATP for free fast shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   with the ring video doorbell you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   always home thanks a lot to ring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   ah alright so this was discussed a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/982">TS</a>]

00:16:28   on the latest under the radar which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31   almost accidentally called under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   weather but appstore approval times if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   you're always making fun of me for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36   sick I haven't actually meant to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39   if you were sick right now are you sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   right now I think it's on its way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   ok so on episode 27 of you're under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   weather program you discussed fast app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50   review and it's worth at least quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   touching upon here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   appstore review times which typically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   hovered about a week are now really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:58   really fast so cable sasser tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   earlier tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   Logan sent a non panic apt to the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   app store at ten-thirty it was in review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08   i'm assuming that I am it was interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   at three rejected for a crash at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   five-thirty they fixed it submitted at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   six-thirty approved at eight o'clock so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   in the span of what is that 10 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   they made two submissions and gather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   their app approved that's impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   and in fact i can i can also confirm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25   that this morning I submit an overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   update and it was approved and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   store nine hours later I didn't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   helping under the weather perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   podcast about that but right when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   think about a lot of people are asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   like OS does this have to do with phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   schiller maybe it does so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   forth like how is this possible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   they're there are so many ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   could be possible but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   ones that spring to mind me are you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   use heuristics to assess the risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:58   each application submission and what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01   can mix into those heuristics are how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:05   many absences developer put in have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   had any problems before is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09   entirely new a person update to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   existing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   I mean they can go down to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12   where they're doing like binary dips or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   something but the whole mess of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   astex you can do and of course that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   hiring more people but but this dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   decrease from like days two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   I don't think you can do that by even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:26   like hiring ten times as many people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   they must they must be having better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   rules about like how much do we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   scrutinize this or how much can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   automated no increased automation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   another thing but again it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   would have to you know come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   nowhere when when a developer can who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43   never had any promises but we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   entirely developer who never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46   problems with conscientious who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   submitting an app it looks fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   straightforward to get them through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:53   like it like this you know one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   turnaround time where you you passed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   gets rejected you fix it you pass it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:57   goes back out again this is not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   time in there to do like a you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:03   to give it a huge amount of scrutiny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   go through every single screen and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   know do all stuffy even automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   testing tools could take you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10   could run through automated testing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   a certain amount of time and maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   wouldn't even fit in this is almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   they're saying this one is probably fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   right guys run the fast automated tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   give it a once-over two seconds and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   it sail through which is what developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   have been asking like and again this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   in a panic a panic were saying like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   seriously Apple you know are we burying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   malware and our applications like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   never going to catch if we do anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:33   you might as well just accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   reality that the only thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   really do is assume good intent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   punished after the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   right because if you say oh we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   like that that's not a secure way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   we want to do on a start that stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   getting the store in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   hey that's not pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:48   people & B it just punishes everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   for the possibility they might suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51   turn one day and panic becomes infected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   by malware you even there no fault of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   their own like that happens almost smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:56   right to the map app there's only so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   much that you can detect in review so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:02   you know the the calculus may be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   you know develop these heuristics so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   that most normal developers get there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   do less we do let's review basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   foremost normal developers and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   catch the matter of fact because history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   has proven that you catch tons of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   after the fact anyway tons of things get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   through even obvious things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   should've been caught so why pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   that your entire system is predicated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   the idea that we must catch bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   before they get through the store at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27   costs and then take a day or a week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   wherever to do it so this is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   awesome and I have to think that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   been that it's happening because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   just getting there working smarter not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   harder as they say as the bosses say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41   whatever it is it's dramatic and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:46   talked about a lot on under-the-radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47   last week that the gist of it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:50   means further for those of you who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   know after you used to take roughly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   week and throughout the entire history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   of the app store and back 2008 and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   have been a couple ups and downs here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00   and there but for the most part it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   been pretty consistent taking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   week ago when you have when you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   preview goes from taking a week to a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:09   or less it makes a lot of app review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12   problems less severe and it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   basically lets you iterate faster on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   your software and so yes it does create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   the potential to kind of play fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22   loose and ship more bugs but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   gives you the ability to fix bugs faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   and so I have to imagine is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   lead overall to better quality software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   and it has certainly led to better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34   quality better developer morale and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   better developer feelings towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37   platform and as the economics have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   gotten more challenging over the years i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   think that's something that Apple is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   right to be apparently focusing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   because you know that the app stores its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:50   it's pretty easy to become bitter after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53   a while the app store in trying to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54   something trying trying to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55   money cuz its it just gets harder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   harder every year as there's increasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   competition for everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   and so to have signs the Apple is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   to make our lives better as developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   is is very promising and it this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   thing is is a huge improvement to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10   iOS developer it's an improvement that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   don't think any of us were expecting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:13   ever get and all of a sudden it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   kinda here it's gonna be on the sly WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18   i would imagine but yeah like it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:19   there are still remaining problems of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   the main one I can think of is you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   been developing an app for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24   releasing updates to our regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   schedule and then along the way if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   you're if you're lucky just a routine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:30   update but if you're unlucky a bug fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   update gets hung up as they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   something fundamental about your app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   against the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:36   you're like I've been releasing this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   for a year I have this is like the 17th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:39   update and all of a sudden the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   feature of my application is a violation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   of the guidelines and that's preventing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   me from getting this bug fix update or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   this routine update out the door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   faster doesn't help that because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   matter how fast you iterate on that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   still the second problem is can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   connect to a human being who understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   the words of my mouth is making right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   now like I think nothing fundamental has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   changed about my app this app has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   existed for a long time are you telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   me that the end of this app is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   welcome in the store tell me now I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   cease development or are you telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   you don't understand something basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   about my happen I need to explain it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   you and those type of situations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   like the wall of silence and just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15   to send it back again and again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   getting computerized responses fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   iteration time doesn't help with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:20   kind of frustration because then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   like blocked on something like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   understand i'm trying to fix a crashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   bug and you're telling me my application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   that's been on the store for years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   like illegal for some you know so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   frustration can still exists with fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   iteration time boy like Marcus said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   having the time get faster whole message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:38   of complaints and the things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39   like national chief about the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42   just go away when the timescale shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   to a single day then it's like a mild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   annoyance vs like I have to plan my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   entire business about around allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:50   for a week to a month of review time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   which is just just destroys your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   know your ability like just go to market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   to compete that 22 to serve your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02   customers like it was a problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   one point and you gotta wait a week for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   the 1.01 why this if i don't really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   the stick will be promising is if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   publicly knowledge is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   and in any way at all that with every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   city man that you think they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:16   gonna brag about this how can they not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   is gonna be graph right but if they if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   they don't mention it at all it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   plausibly be like a flu is an accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26   someone was just hitting the approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   button little drinking bird from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   simpsons do is just that reference movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   do I told us from the simpsons though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   yeah but again I giving you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   reference is that from the simpsons well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   you had I mean we know what drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   bird is separately now I know so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   add sound it just sounds weird to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   you're like a showbusiness mom an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   impossible to please no wire hangers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   that that when I didn't get no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   not a showbusiness mom know is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   that that was a mommy dearest but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   don't think it was a showbiz angle on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:58   yeah went right over my head and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   everything is back to normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   our next sponsor this week is automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:06   now chances are your car has not fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   kept up with technology this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   automatic comes in automatic is a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   adapter that turns any car into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   connected smart car just plug in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   automatic into the same port your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   mechanic used to diagnose engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   problems usually it's in the footwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   area and it opens up a world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   possibilities now automatically to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   tracking a few mileage vehicle Health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   lets you expense business trips with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32   tap and link your car the connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   devices the power your life so what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   that check engine light actually mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   automatic can tell you through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   phone before you even have to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:42   you can also integrate with your nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   thermostat to know when your home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   can provide the answer one of life's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   most common questions dude where's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:50   automatic works on nearly every car made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:54   after 1996 and it takes only minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   install and connect to your iPhone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   Android device over Bluetooth this gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   you real-time performance data all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   Diagnostics i mentioned earlier it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   even use intelligent coaching to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   maximize fuel economy and reduce wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   and tear so for example you can say if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   am getting fuel economy below this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14   target that I want to hit that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:15   hit beep at me or tell me so I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18   like you know adjust the habit of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   if I just gave my my teenage son Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23   the car for the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   and in case he decides to drive super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   fast I can have a report of that 1994 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   saturn sl2 does never go a day never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   goes fast it just goes quicker than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   roads intended that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   alright i also have a webapp dashboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   provides greater information lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   import and export data gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   planning regulations here check check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   engine light they also have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   incredible app platform now when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   have smarts and you have connectivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   you can have integration so i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   earlier the nest integrations also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53   integration with your mechanic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54   freshbooks and more you can file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   business expenses of popular apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   current Expensify and it works with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   ifttt for even more possibilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   integrate your car into your digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   life and support apple watch it supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07   pebble watches and all this is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   for no monthly fees and no subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12   and they never sell your data that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   their business their business is selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   you the automatic device the automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1636">TS</a>]

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00:27:28   80 bucks with code ATP 03 15 so go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   all right calm / ATP these offer code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:35   8003 15 to save twenty percent off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:38   regular price gets of q4 80 bucks that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   automatic calm / ATP thanks a lot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   supporting the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   alright so Google i/o keynote was today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:50   and I actually watched it which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   first time i think i've ever watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   google i/o keynote but now that I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   this whole brand-new world where I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   alongside Android developers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   were really into it and they did what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   usually do for Apple keynotes and we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   piled in a conference room where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   put it on the big screen and we watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   it together and it was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:15   all-in-all and we'll go through each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   thing you know in a moment but i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   impressed i heard rumblings and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   descriptions of past google i/o is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24   they were meandering and long and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:27   boring much like the talent of the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   wdc keynote and so Pam and a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:33   disaster kind of like the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   last WBC keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   and also i'm curious i was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   this recently with tiff which do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   think was the worst moment in recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   apple keynote memory was it the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   music introduction or the u2 album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   finger-touch thing o.o finger-touch was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   nothing compared to the end of last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   year's wcu kidding finger-touch was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   brief moment kind of silly excusable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   celebrity the other was just in terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   watching neq vamp and then having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   have Drake be up there and just ramble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   and it was it was bad but to keep in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   mind though I think contributing to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   side of the argument though is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   finger-touch was part of a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   awkward moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   yeah that when also led into this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:21   thing nobody wanted which is everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   getting this album pushed into the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   and it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   you like you too yeah you're matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   even if they don't it was fire was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   it was a fumble who cares they gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   free stuff and took up space in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34   phone and they gave you a way to opt out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   of it and it was silly but like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   talking about the keynote itself finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   touches nothing I don't know man i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   kinda with mark on this I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42   an approximately equivalent amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   awkward it's just that the density in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   the finger-touch was considered if mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   has made you watch one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   over again and you have to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   finger-touch you have to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   entire neq and Drake segment which to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   choose what I have to watch the YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   performance before the finger-touch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:02   think it's a community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   I mean it don't know if you're including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   musical performance has been a long line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   of musical performance that people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07   care but I was trying that I put all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   these notes in here by google I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   trying not to talk about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   showmanship or compared to apple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   the outdoor thing that the set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   decoration on that stage was not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   hold on can we can we paint a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   picture please I don't want to paint the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   word picture i gotta bring up to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   thought i had the video i hear something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   I don't know what they're decorating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   theme was it like needed to do material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   chaos was that the beam SE the material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:33   design colors kind of i can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   theme and you kind of saw echoed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   their slides but the set design for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   stage just was not aesthetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   pleasing and didn't enhance they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   these did enhance their presentation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   the bright colored lights underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   screen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   I just want to focus on your content the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   content i thought was pretty good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   really liked a lot of the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   announced but the set duration was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   but anyway my point is I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   talk about a set decoration or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   polished presenters were or whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   not Drake wear vintage apple jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   while he said nothing of interest or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   very cute dance you have to google he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   did write a damn he did anyway I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:12   talk about the products and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   thought there was a lot of cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   yeah i mean there is there is siri there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   is the echo I'm not even tries time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20   trying to say they're just doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   other people are doing because that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   ridiculous argument that is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   thing I give you that on his foot screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   because I was really expecting to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   something more than exactly what Apple a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:30   split-screen picture-in-picture but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   anyway we're getting an overall but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   the there's that's not an exact Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36   rip I actually I give them in ok on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   but we will go in the order of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   notes and it begins with google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44   which is the Amazon echo / alexa product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:49   but google see this actually like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   this might be really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   it's obviously a big risk you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:55   because first of all it's google doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   its own hardware and their record for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   that is about as good as Amazon's record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   is for the friends into its own hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   so like they have had some things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   have worked some of the nexus have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   decent but a lot of their stuff has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   flops and so it's it it's a huge wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:14   card but separate the flop from as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   they don't sell a lot of them from paw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:19   is the hardware actually good without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   google has probably done multiples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   both like I think that ball thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   don't know whatever shipped or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   that was like not a good idea and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   the things they make don't sell a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   but it's not like they're bad i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   don't think they sell a lot of not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   like the Chromebook pixel how many grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   pixels this so i don't know but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38   hardware wasn't terrible right and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:42   not at all i thought the hardware look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43   great and the same thing when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   the tablets and all the Nexus phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   especially like the Nexus phones didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   sell that many you know I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   thought they were going to sell more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   than they did and then the other vendors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   took over but the hardware they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   make I don't think it's bad hardware so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   I have some vague hope that this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   the squat little weeble that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:03   Amazon echo competitive everything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   weeble to you it's shaped like a weeble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   wobble they don't fall down right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   how many times have you made that joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   on our shows but they don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   the weebles please don't make me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   you again about the weebles but now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   is this is literally we will shape right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   it's fat on the bottom and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   anyway like I i have some faith that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:26   hardware will be ok i don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29   been the problem with Google's hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   products of the hardware as bad I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   like they've just you know falling down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   other I like the google TV stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   maybe you know that really goes remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   was there was it made badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   no it was just a bad idea so if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   good idea and I think they can make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   and you know reasonably well I i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   have i've seen no reason why this device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   shouldn't sell just as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:53   Amazon echo message the amazonica was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   already tired of that entire market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   which is possible but other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   the people about the echo why would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   buy this to its like the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   yeah i mean really like this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   thing is the kind of thing that google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   should be really good at and again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:11   isn't to say that they definitely will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   but i think the they clearly are likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:16   to succeed here because it combines the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   types of things are really good at with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   the kind of market they can get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   succeeded which is like so far mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   like Aggie Aggie market very tech-savvy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   market of people who have like smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   home stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   the main problem we're gonna have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32   there is the lack of retail presence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35   because I can you know we've seen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   Amazon is so powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   amazon is the place where most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   would go to buy this kind of thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   and i'm sure Amazon not gonna be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   happy to carry it or if they do carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   it's really not going to ever promote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   but I'm guessing they don't carry it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   so this is going to be interesting had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:57   to see how Google can try to market this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   and and and sell the crap out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   because from a technical perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03   google should be better than amazon at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:07   I don't know that they will be but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08   should be yeah i Ike's expect them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   yet because I mean the only thing I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   like they might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14   better at is maybe this is the first try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   at putting something out that has 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   microphones and all sorts of noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   cancelling stuff so maybe amazon it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   amazon's first try and they gotta try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   know I know but they it's been out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   awhile and the quality is really good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   I think they basically that Amazon hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   out of the park in that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   feature right so I don't think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   given for your first try the Amazon did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   a really good job with does this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   understand me from across the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37   google says they do a good job with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   but they like amazon had an exemplary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   first try right and i have the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   and third try with the dot and although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44   there whatever the the derivative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   products but i think they did a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47   good job but other than that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   else about this google I think should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   better and will be better like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   that you can say to it natural language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   processing back-end querying the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   thing a man can do better i was buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59   stuff right because ma'am but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02   other part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   google damn well better be better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   amazon at because you know amazon he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   doesn't have any of the the strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09   behind it to do all the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   processing and search queries in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12   deep hooks into all that type of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   and the thing that really blew me away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   about this demo was la thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   why the hell does Apple not have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   these things that I guess maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   beneath their concern but be when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   did the thing like the kids talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   it and doing the conversations that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28   me on the TV like that is an apple move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   yeah i do that yet because we make a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   device and of course our little weeble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   knows about the TV the chromecast catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   the TV show me on the TV like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   that the type of thing we used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   to be the apple ecosystem for which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   all i have tons of Apple crap around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   house and they all know about each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   and they all just work together and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   like airplane to your appletv the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   time that works like it was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   because I happy to apple devices really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53   easy to put a video up on my TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   well see all the time that worked yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58   know much about hitting and that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:59   first time you know it was impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   the first time and yet this is google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   saying hey we actually have stuff around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   here they and they put a little nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   icon on there to say connecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   thermostat and and third-party to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   integrate with your third party lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   and stuff like that they're not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   like Apple would only work would only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15   work with your Apple lights or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   they're all big on third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17   integrations they already announced an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   API which we still don't have four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   series over for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   unless unless Google homeless this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   the nest hub that we read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27   and all those tell articles about next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   about honest was going down in flames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   and everything was breaking I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   hope this is not the long-delayed hub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   from the nest people because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   dysfunctional organization is not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   make a good product but assuming this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   made by functional organization I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42   think this will be an impressive Brock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   and I think I might actually get 1 i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   been holding off on the echo just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   because it's the first generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47   product or whatever but if this gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   really good reviews i think the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   will buy it because I basically I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   more faith in google that amazon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   terms of supporting and evolving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   product and being good at the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   interesting sophisticated parts of it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   told that the downside though I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   that the counter-argument to that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   of all there is this the big privacy ? [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   we should address because a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   people are like you know I was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   the people I I freaked out when Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13   be released i realize the echo and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16   like you're you know you're not Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   put a speaker and a microphone in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   house is listening to everything you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   all the time and similarly we know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   google bought nest everyone's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   you're gonna have you want Google to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   this thermostat that can look in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   house and stuff and and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   people my past self included who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   uncomfortable with that and and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   just not gonna want that product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   their house and that's fine that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38   know that's your decision if it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   for me what tip the scale is what every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43   Google fan usually says when asked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   privacy things which is basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   this girl for me when with letting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48   Amazon echo in my house was I saw how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:51   good it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52   I other people's houses like I saw how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   good it was and I decided you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   it's worth the trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   I'll take the risk I'll put this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00   in my kitchen because it is so good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   worth the trade-off and this is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:04   thing that most google people say when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   you know when they say they don't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   if people like me ask them like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   why do you want Google to have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   all your data and to be analyzing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   everything you do and and selling ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   against it and everything and the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17   I get most commonly is well worth it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   me because it's convenient in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   features of things that i want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22   made the decision and you know I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   really argue with that if you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   you decide it's worth it to you then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   it's worth it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:27   I haven't just clarifying where iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:31   that I don't see it as a trade office in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   like okay well there are detriments but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   there are benefits i mean the trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37   is there but like I would put it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   succinctly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   myself is that basically I trust Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43   like I don't trust them with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44   I don't trust them like implicitly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   don't give the ball my trust but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   grand scheme of things I trust apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   I trust Google to basically be companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   that are trying to do the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54   and are not like you just inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   evil like I don't know insert the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   your favorite company although it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59   weird that I was just about to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00   oracle but you don't really get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   into that and anyway I mean I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   trust Google before I trust facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   oh yeah he's a great example right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   even antitrust amazon you know for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08   most part and again don't trust them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:11   I you have to be vigilant and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   so forth don't say oh I just trust them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14   to listen to everything my house that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   never gonna do anything you will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:16   gonna sell me to advertise like I trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   them in that I kind of I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   they're gonna do I know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   about but in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21   still the company seems to me to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   mostly trying to do the right thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   long as you understand their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26   and how much advertising is a part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   and what is probably gonna happen to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29   your data and the fact that the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32   government is probably going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   hooks into all this stuff and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   not going to tell you about like as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36   as you go on with a clear head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37   the bottom line is that by I I trusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40   this is not i'm not like backdooring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   entire house forever and ever and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   know and I wouldn't install a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   from a company that I trusted less or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   company that was less competent or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   likely to go out of business or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   likely to get to do something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   desperation for money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:56   you know what I mean like there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:57   many things it for me in favor of google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   so yes it is a trade-off but mostly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   it comes down to is that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04   trust Google enough to put something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:05   like this in my house you know I I spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:09   about i think that i am a brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   google photos user and the more i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:16   this app that both web app in the native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   apps the more i like it in the morn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   amazes me and and quickly during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   keynote they said oh and you know google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   photos does some incredible things than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   I think it's what 200 million active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   users on it or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29   whatever the number is but you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   search for something like hugs and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   course in the room I mean it was half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   Android developers are mostly Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36   developers and a couple of theirs and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   I immediately hopped on google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   and tighten hugs and sure enough there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   are a bunch of people hugging each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   like usually Aaron me and Declan that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46   show up immediately like this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   google photos does is amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:51   seeing how good it is makes me wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   well if they're this good with photos i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   wonder how could they would be with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   google home thing so I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   John that this it the the google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   as kind of been my gateway drug back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   into google like I still use gmail for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   both work and personal mail but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   just kind of a thing in the background I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   don't ever use the web app it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   basically I'm apt to me but man google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   photos has really changed my tune as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   how I think about Google these days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   i'm giving some serious positive side I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   to this google home thing because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   aesthetically pleasing be that being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27   weeble or not it still looks good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   I'm tentatively interested in what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:34   springs in a way that I haven't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   been in the echo and not to bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   back tough to food again but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   here we go one that said show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   talking to maybe this was the ethics is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:46   talk about a I think getting the aloe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   thing later but it's all tied up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   same sort of natural language processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   type where they're asking questions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   these products and having it do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57   for you and they always want to demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   those because they always want to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   that the video of like an entire family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   talking to the to the google home device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   which is a little bit overblown because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   I can you know the impression you get is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   this entire family spends its entire day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   living in the same house but all all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   their their words are addressed towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13   the inanimate object instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14   other people which I you know you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   of get that because you have to you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   to fit in lots of examples of uses in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   single you know too many commercial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   anyway that aside a lot of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   things are doing is trying to sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   fantasy that it's like a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   assistant where flight is delayed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   you want to move your dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34   reservations and you just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   handle things for you and i start i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   think those make for good good demos but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   also bad demos because think they raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   expectations on reasonable levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   because every time they do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:46   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   I see sort of like scrolling down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   side of my virtual screen like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   cascading number of assumptions that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   in there that your restaurant has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54   open table reservation that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   understands that you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   restaurant thing you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   that is that that it knows about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   flight that you know like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   didn't use a different email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:03   just for this that it wasn't sent to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   different person that like that just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   many things have to go right for that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   work and they make it seem like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   don't have to worry about a care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   those but you do because if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:13   flying on an airline that doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   integration in the same way or you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   to go to restaurant that doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18   opentable or you something was done on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   spouse's account and not yours so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   talking to but it doesn't understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   doesn't know anything about that flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26   because it's done through a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27   google ID or you know like so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:30   possible things can go wrong to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   them not working when they do go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   even in the slightest way it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   old you know give up and use tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   website it's like if anything goes wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   at all right forget how to do an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   or I'll sit down in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:41   computer because no I'm trying to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   an argument and getting a text adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   syntax game with this thing so it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   looks magical and and the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   with like ordering food all the food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   waiting for you to get home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   food from where you want korean found in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   your restaurant you just accepting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55   restaurant that he gave you what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   don't like the restaurant doesn't learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   which restaurant you like does it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:00   there's still this is so primitive where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   it's not and I don't feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03   going to help me with my life unless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   just don't care where things come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   want the most generic things like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08   wanted to know i always get indian food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   from this place or if it's not sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   should ask me do you want to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15   place you got last time and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   predicated on the fact that it can order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   from those places you probably can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   because your favorite in places no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   what computers are and they only take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21   cash and it's it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   we're not there yet and these ads make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   it seem like they are there but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   know anybody except like mattis maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   who can actually live this life like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   where you just touch talking to the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   and everything you do is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   integrated and well he wouldn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   because you have know exactly where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   everything is coming from you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   can't just say army indian food is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42   safe Casey we talk about anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   just say army needs will be waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   you yet you'll be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47   order what what do you want to order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48   from where like it just it grinds my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:52   gears to see that but anyway I i do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   confidence that google is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56   better at this natural language stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   than amazon just because they have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   many smart people doing this and Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   probably has a smaller slightly smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   number of smart people dying but amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   has has I think two big strains I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09   number one first of all I mentioned they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   have massive retail power here to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13   these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   by all accounts the echo had probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   already has a a decent-sized install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19   base so that's that's you know barrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   number one for Google to try to overcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   you can you can overcome like the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25   start the echo has gotten with a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   product but it's gonna be really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   overcome the massive retail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   promotional advantage you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   asking just ask anybody who has tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   make a successful technically advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   e-reader in the last you know eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   years or so but that google has a big in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43   there because google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   who cares if the little turd that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48   outer downgraded from people ever sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   because all the set the same thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   all powered by the whole assistant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   and that's going to be on all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   phones and they have a ton of phone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57   that is there that is the wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:58   basically like look maybe the home never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   beats out the echo but if we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   this thing on all of our phones so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   you know the the 50-percent plus of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   world that has android smartphones gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   used to using this on their phones then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   they'll still win because again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   phone is going to swap how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   bought a little Solis cylinder even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   people just shout across the room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   their phones and people started adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   multiple microphone so you're right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   is a barrier but google already has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   a beachhead there they have they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   way around like I think google care less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   whether Google home succeeds then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   whether this assistive technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   becomes sort of what Google is known for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   in the modern error instead of just web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   that's fair well so-and-so the other the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   other all gather at the advantage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   amazon has right now is that the echo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   not trying to be that kind of like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   smart fantasy California land you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:48   or community food which magically does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49   exactly the right thing you want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   the echo is more like a really simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:54   command-line and once you learn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   relatively small vocabulary and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   syntax that a dead it supports it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   incredibly reliable doing those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   and so it I think while it might at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   first have a slightly higher learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11   curve for like you know day one two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:13   I think once you get past the very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16   initial part of it i would say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   echoes actually easier to use once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   figure out things the kind of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   that work with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22   those things work incredibly reliably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   and so that's that's the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   anybody has commanded us like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   serie doesn't do as well that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   serie tries to do more doesn't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   API that to Siri tries to do more but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:36   doesn't it doesn't really do any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   reliably enough it and it's hard to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   before you before you ask Siri something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   it's hard to know whether you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   succeed or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   whereas with the echo it's you get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   you figure it out within a few days to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   figure out okay this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52   thing will succeed this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53   want google is obviously trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:57   very ambitious with with the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   things that that their thing can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   google home can do we will see if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   works I think if anybody can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   kind of complexity it's them so it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:09   work to me I think the biggest risk for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   buying into the google home ecosystem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   whether Google themselves will lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   interest or it will fail within a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:21   years because you know their track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   record for that isn't great either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   something is not working they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   first ones to to kill it usually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   don't tell them to feedburner is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   running because i think they thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   think about it but anyway you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:36   google is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   if you look at the history of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   various initiatives they've had various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   like big platforms have tried to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   its it's littered it's a huge graveyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   stuff they've shut down so it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   different than amazon well that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51   but if they try this out if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55   get very far in the market it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   they could choose to fight harder and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   keep going or to shut it down so and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   you if you like bought the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:04   hardware and they shut yours down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   that kind of sucks it's kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   format war going on but don't you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   this this has a big advantage in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11   the underlying technology was under like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   this and aloe and all that stuff but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16   underlying sort of machine intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17   natural language processing speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   interface that I feel like is a core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23   technological effort to google that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   not going away like a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   guaranteed not going away right now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30   individual products you're right maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:31   they get google home and end up like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   we have the second version is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   compatible and you're stuck with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   bad hardware and they meant to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   supporting I could totally see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:38   that's a danger in any sort of product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   like this and there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   historically because i have not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   particularly good about preserving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   but I if you're going to have any faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   in any sign of product efforts it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48   going to be like the the weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   balloons that give you Wi-Fi or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   self-driving cars is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   natural extension of basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   Google's core product which is search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   which is that taking that to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   level also because it ties into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   advertising if you can be honest like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   why would Google stick with this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   ever they've been doing it for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:06   right and be it totally fits with web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   search both web search and advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   so i have to think that this effort will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14   continue to go on and if these products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   are like that they will iterate on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   that they will they will make future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19   versions of and then we'll keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   and there is a still slim chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   you buy some hardware might be offered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   because they bail on that have a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25   iteration with a new name or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   but I really think this is not esoteric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:32   or in in fear of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   flash-in-the-pan simply because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   read so much as Google to be a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   tangential like I feel like this is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   you were to say what does google like 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   years in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   it looks less like typing in text boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   and more like a much better version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   this because it's just such a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   extension and certainly wasn't machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   learning was their version of customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   SAT like if we were doing a drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   game and machine learning caused you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:58   drink you would have been under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   table after the first 20 minutes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   that's all we heard about and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:03   Apple has its own foibles and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   similar ways like customer SAT but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   machine learning was all over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   keynote and i agree with you John but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   that seems to be where they're pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   as a company is is trying to leverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   that machine learning in in any possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   way that they can and in some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   ways like I've been talking about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   google photos and with google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   I think it looks really promising and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   really really interesting and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:27   sits there was their their their logo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30   their motto revision state whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   organizing the world's information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33   they've been slowly but steadily doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:36   that over the course of many many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37   trying to get semantics into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   information so i don't understand not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   just like oh this word appears there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   these people link to that page but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:44   understanding what the information is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   that is actually looking at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   that's how we can do that photo stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   isn't the photos that doesn't just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49   out of nowhere get a one-year project to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   do it that's based on years and years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   research outside google and within and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56   just working on it working on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   their language parsing that open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59   that big you know natural language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   processing thing and image recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   and then stuffed with robotic this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   all about taking in information and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09   developing an understanding of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3189">TS</a>]

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00:53:13   computers can act on it so it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3193">TS</a>]

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00:53:26   mean that previous sentence when I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   said he and the next sense what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   talking about like it's really basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3213">TS</a>]

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00:53:36   for computers and they're doing on such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   a massive scale that that that effort in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   that research just is going to underlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   all their products from from here going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3222">TS</a>]

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00:53:46   inflection point where suddenly becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   acceptable and and like it passes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   barrier from tech curiosity that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   all impressed by that but then only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   nerds really use to just a normal thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   that everybody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   we may be getting close to that if only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   because people don't like typing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   is all someone tweeting when the i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   things going on at like how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   will still see interacting with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   android phones or there you know iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   devices purely by speech even though a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15   computer nerd looking at them with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   cringe and how incredibly inefficient is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   to essentially be arguing with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   phone and saying things over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   again and trying to type things just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   just just give me your phone let me show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25   you how to do this but people prefer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   even when it's totally broken and crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   and doesn't work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31   just because it's more comfortable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   them so i think we're probably closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   the inflection point where most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   use what will continue to be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   massively inefficient way to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   especially when it has any sort of error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   simply because it's just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:43   comfortable for them then trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3283">TS</a>]

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00:55:15   every minute you can monitor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3315">TS</a>]

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00:55:19   contact forms ecommerce checkout locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   in searching and a lot more i have used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3322">TS</a>]

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00:55:27   2007 all tumblr all events the paper all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:31   of overcast and marketed or the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   time it is great it alerts meet whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   anything is and I i usually do to alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   levels i do one called vitals which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   have all the servers report they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   disk space and free memory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   everything so that I have like a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   alert level 40 you know what this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   one of the five web servers is not rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   is not responding or the server has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   has a very limited space or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   and that just sends me emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   notifications and then I have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   alert level if the whole site is down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   that sets off the alarm bells that sends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   me text messages that is like a type you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   know loud notifications it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   different level of alerts what they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   i've also used in the past to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   like like monitor the Apple WC website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:17   to see when WC was announced every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   because we monitor the page for change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3379">TS</a>]

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00:56:23   the sites are monitoring the kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3383">TS</a>]

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00:56:29   2007 so i use it now for nine years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:33   i will continue using it because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3393">TS</a>]

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00:57:17   you still wanted to say that i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   just wanted to say i did i did the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   is going to be the week of bad podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   british accents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:24   hey yeah if they didn't put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   apostrophe before the a that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:28   that's true i'll buy it reminds me a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   of fellow that weird social network that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   didn't go anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:33   it's still spams me for every few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   but something that subscribe button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   subscribe for all those i have anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:41   Google LOL is the UH I message knock off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:46   but with a lot more it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   something I message along I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   line knock off or what's that love hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53   it's much more likely be much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   sophisticated messaging apps that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   used outside the apple ecosystem it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58   got stickers for crying out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:02   fair enough that's a big text yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   actually that was a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   interaction so they went i forget which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   person is presented with this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   British woman that was presenting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   this point in any case somebody whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   was presenting was talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   there are times when you want to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   shout when it in a text message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   conversation there's times where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   kind of want to whisper and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   allow you to change the font size within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   a low which in and of itself doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   seem that impressive but I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31   interaction is pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   we're on iOS in the messages app you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35   have a little microphone icon and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   can swipe up and down to like send an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   audio message what they do is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:42   if you tap and hold roughly where our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45   microphone icon is it will let you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   of drag a slider up and down to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   the the size of the fund which I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   again was a very clever interaction so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   many things wrong with that from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   usability perspective that I can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   like and from a taste perspective like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   this is just such a totally a google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00   thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   where someone thinks is a cool feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   and it seems like they don't think quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   enough about the implications both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06   aesthetically where you can make really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   ugly look at even the demo screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   looking for the ugly and I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11   to myself that there's anything wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   with ugly and garish like it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   SI you're going for but i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   like this is the opposite of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   aesthetic and it can be more fun like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   the APIs that it can be boring right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:23   everything is all hell that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:24   everything is the same size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25   everything is sort of clean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   button-down like you know I'm not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   not slamming i'm really not like but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   saw him like wow this is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   something that wouldn't do and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   shouting find fun make your text bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   it's fun to shout so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   whispering not good for usability you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   telling me i can make the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41   microscopic boy of my age relatives will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   love to squinted that when I owe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   don't understand great on whispering no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   you can't I mean maybe it's over right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   about the local level but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   doesn't make for a good demo because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   obvious question which is really i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   make text so small that my recipient can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   even region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   even region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   the squint that's the question in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   people's minds if they're looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   from an accessibility perspective so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   just throw a sentence out there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   says the thing that I really hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   true which is like oh and of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   recipients at a minimum font sizes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   like whatever you have to say address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   the will get this later with some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   stuff from the the knock-knock duo what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   do you call a videoconferencing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   like if there's an obvious there should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   be an obvious question most people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   minds about the future you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25   throw out a sentence or two to reassure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   us that the feature that you surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   added to account for this is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   because if you don't say it or left to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   think that you haven't thought of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   even if that's not true gives a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:35   impression and in this case I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   trust cool to think these things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   very often do things that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42   that the company the company's persona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   is that of an individual that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:50   account for the variety of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   kinds of people on lives that are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   there and I know they're fighting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   hard against that don't know it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57   of unfair but a lot of times I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   Google do things with obvious problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02   that i assume that they have accounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:04   then they release a product I said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   they didn't account for that in fact it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   seems like that even think of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09   they'll fix it after the fact their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:10   credit and it's not like they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:11   to to do something wrong but sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   they dropped the ball so I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   Google your presentations for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   foreseeable future when you'd show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   feature that has obvious problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   throughout to us APPL assault I'm short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   two or three words to say oh and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   course don't worry about this because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   handle it an XY way like in the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   way because I don't think for me anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   they get the past making me think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   they thought of that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34   understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35   we should also talk about the predictive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   replies are suggested replies with King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:41   machine-learning ding that seems weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:46   to me and I very conflicting thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   about this which is actually kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   theme for most of what I what I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   of google i/o but it seemed odd to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54   have suggested replies on a phone or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58   tablet where it's relatively easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01   type like I don't have I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   have a problem with it on the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   watch partially because it's so terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07   in partially because partially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10   you can't exactly type on an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:12   going to get to that later as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   hopefully but on a device where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   some reasonable approximation of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19   keyboard it just seems insensitive like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22   one of the examples they use like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   picture of a kid uh how cute was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26   the replies like I don't know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27   seems insensitive or Colton both so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:32   here's an example a great following fri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   said he remember where they did realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   what the obvious objection to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38   feature would be and address it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   sensor choose so the obvious objection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   for the demos is like I would never tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   any of those circles because all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   sound like inane things like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   not how I communicate right just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   you were saying like really all how cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   am I going to send that like or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   going to look like a form letter or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   gonna look like an reply nomid similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   complaints about the inbox software they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01   have her auto replying to emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:02   stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   that's the obvious objection to any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   of hey we'll figure out what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06   gonna reply and give it to you in a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07   right and they addressed immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   with a single sentence which may or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10   know maybe we're not actually address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   the issue in the product but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:12   saying oh and don't worry we will learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15   from what you actually reply and suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   things that are essentially things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18   you have said before that are otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:19   in your voice now will they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   successful at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   well they just literally have replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   have had before and it'll sound dumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25   none of that none of the boxes look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   right but at least they understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   they can't suggest replies without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32   taking what you how you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   communicate as an input and so they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   no that's exactly what we're doing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   again they can do a bad job of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   will still be a stupid feature that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40   people want to turn off but if they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   good job but it's like yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:43   exactly what I want I want you to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   how i type to people and preferably how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   I communicate with different people how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   do i reply to my mom vs my wife vs my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   friend you know what I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   machine learning and again they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   bleeding on that hopefully that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:56   they're aiming for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   they're not saying oh we're just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   to give you a bunch of kin replies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   the Apple watch does our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:03   probabilistically try to make a reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:06   that would make some sense you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:07   Apple watch is not learning our applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   has no way to learn from our reply apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   doesn't have that information or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12   whatever but google at least says this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15   is what we're trying to do and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16   hope they do because that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   dream right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   yeah that's where they also have plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:23   of third-party integrations in ello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26   and I initially was really keen on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:30   so i forget the exact example they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   but say you're talking with your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   about where you want to go to dinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:35   you know so I'm talking about it she so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   would you like pizza and I say yes I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   love some cc's then it will try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   figure out some sort of contextual e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:45   relevant information like if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   something nicer than CC so can i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48   your reservation or perhaps here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   directions there cetera and on the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53   at first i thought wow that's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   convenient really useful but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   thought about it and I thought I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:58   know if I'd really want that in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   iMessage conversation which obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   heroes are approximately equivalent with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   aaron like that just seems weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:07   and and I can't I haven't put my finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   on which 1i think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   well it's great that they kept leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   on this and I think it is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:14   features that you don't have to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:15   the apt this frustrates me when I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   my phone communicate with somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:18   i have to like wait let me go google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   that or we know wait let me go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   other apt to do the thing having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   everything in line one aspect of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   like do I want the other person to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   sort of the research I'm doing here do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   want to share these things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   questionable debatable though if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   trying to decide in restaurants maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:34   they do want to see them so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35   have to describe the restaurants are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   typed them all in so i can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39   deciding what to share versus what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40   your own but the big advantage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:41   Apple that google is selling and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   is a real advantages you don't switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   15 different apps you can get it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   done here mostly because sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   power of google is showing through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:50   inside this chat application we will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:54   all the searching in the pulling of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   search results in smart ways and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   the ordering in the making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   reservation and again it falls back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   like that's a silly scenario unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   everything in your life is integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   with google and all the things you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:05   about their party integration but hey at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   least they have third-party integrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   and third-party really care about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   they can integrate and never a start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:11   really cares and wants to sell to tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:13   nerds in the san francisco area they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   integrate with it doesn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   most of the rest of the country whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18   favorite restaurants are not integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   in this way but at least maybe you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   get directions to them assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   google has accurate information for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   where they are so of this one is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:28   little bit fantasy but Google is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31   all the right things I think making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:34   people not leave the app is actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   right thing is just difficult to draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   line of how much crap to any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   other person to see versus how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   stuff do I need to see to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:44   yep they also allow you to play what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   they call the emoji game in line so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49   you get bored talking to your spouse you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52   can play the guess the movie title by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53   emojis game which strikes me as the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:58   they call a digital touch features on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   the Apple watch but but it's not though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04   because this was just there sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   hello world example program the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:09   that again third parties can make actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   fun teams with this API this is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   like see its name it's like making a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:16   know an echo server for demonstrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   your like simple you know server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   concurrency framework right it just goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   back whatever you put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23   it's not a real thing it's an API and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26   they fully expect people to make real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   fun games out of this and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   integrations with third-party products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   games leading third-party products like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   there are many opportunities for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   advertising and commerce integrated into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   this and so I think I think showing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:42   and by the way onstage essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   saying shall we play a game to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   computer is not a good look so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   stay away from that but the big thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:52   think they weren't selling is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   didn't just make a chat app that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:55   some features in this version of Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   this is now another platform for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   target all your stuff that you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   out there who have products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   applications and services can integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   with this and be integrated with it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   way that you people can buy your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   and find their way to your thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   play your game that advertises your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   thing or whatever like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   feature the actual like emoji game I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19   don't think that was it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   clear to developers but a regular person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:22   saw they'll be like oh I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23   interested in mochigames I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   ignore the emoji game that is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26   proof-of-concept hello world type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   other integrations is what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   looking for here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:31   fair enough then they made mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:35   during the yellow conversation and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   couple other times about security which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40   I really really liked that Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   Apple seem to be quietly colluding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:45   the good way to try to make their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48   platforms more secure but that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   said I wasn't entirely clear on what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53   security situation is in l.o it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:56   that there's kind of two modes there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   the general normal use mode which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:02   encrypted ish i guess it's encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:06   enough to prevent snooping by anyone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:11   google because they need to have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:12   equivalent of slackware yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15   yeah the slack bought in there in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   to see offer all these suggestions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:21   then there's an incognito mode which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   just like chrome in your messaging app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:27   which is apparently encrypted et tui for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   end-to-end that just I i like it overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:34   but that just seems weird to me to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   to think about whether or not you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   this to be indented encrypted yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:41   wasn't clear to ride but i watch most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   this presentation but didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45   chance to really watch the segment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46   incognito mode doesn't hide you as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   centre-right like it's it it's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   person still knows it's you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   right you just initiated a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:53   end-to-end encrypted sighs I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   that's correct yeah alright so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   yeah it's it's it's I think you you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:01   exactly right it it's a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   between can could google encrypt this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   in theory or can't nobody do it and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:10   has been talking discussed at length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   with iMessage even though I messages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   encrypted well because Apple has control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16   over the key servers still technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   of Apple wanted to be in the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   they could you know to grip your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   conversations as they happen they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   do that and they don't plan to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   and they and they say they'll fight the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   government steps to make them do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:29   but there's so many other ways to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   the information like the I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   encrypted iCloud backups of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34   conversations and yeah it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   complicated than simply putting into we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   open screen especially with it with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:41   with the government climate the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:42   is but yeah the reason google I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45   doesn't didn't have I message that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:46   encryption for the beginning is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   google wants to be able to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   everything that you type and it wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   have a participant in the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   was in on it even if you didn't end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:56   encryption one of your authenticated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   then recipients would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   something on Google server somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:02   like I don't think they're anonymizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   when they go back like a palace when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   they go back to the serious stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   they kind of have to know things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08   you and know who you are to do smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11   server-side things I don't think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   this is happening on the phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:14   there is a service I component so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15   the attention we always talked about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   like that Apple's trying to be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   about privacy and I don't even want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   know your stuff but if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   personalized service from you know in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25   intelligent agent with machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   television has to know how you who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   are i mean i wanted to know who i am but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31   now all of a sudden this intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   agent is privy to my conversations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   it's not a person and it's essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38   only controlled by google so end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   contribute and encrypting it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42   agent is not really helping things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   you worried about the the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   forcing google to get records anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50   think in this day and age if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51   something you don't want the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   to see don't send it through google or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:57   any other service probably even Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   mean apples probably your best bet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00   in general you have to take encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   into your own hands you actually I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   just fairly easy to do like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   the math exists out there you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   encryption software and use it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09   and communicate with somebody in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   that the government can subpoena anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   to get but the end you'll probably just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   screwed up and they'll be able to social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   engineer something out of goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:20   alright let's talk about duo and knock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   knock so duo is facetime but not there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:28   more to it than that and then what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   knock-knock that's the intro mode in duo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   is that right yeah but that's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   this is another one of the demos where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   they didn't say the obvious thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38   oh and when someone's calling you look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   can see my daughter and I you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:41   like you're your phone is ringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42   centers like FaceTime ringing right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   rather than just seeing the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   caller and maybe like a little picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:48   of them from your contacts or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   like you know your daughter is calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   and you see the daughters name and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54   still picture your daughter what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   instead see is video from the the caller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4376">TS</a>]

01:13:00   side before you've decided whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03   want to pick up or not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   how can you do that demo on stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   not immediately say but don't worry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:11   only happens for known contacts that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   in your address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14   spoken communication surely that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   case to say that you have to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19   say the words it takes two seconds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   say the words otherwise the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   audience is going oh my god naked people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25   are gonna be calling me constantly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:26   i'm going to instantly see their video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:27   because i can't stop them it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   like do they not have women the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31   like this is it that women would say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33   do not want to see a million guys junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:36   as they randomly dial me and I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   choice and I see video of it immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:39   like and again I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:42   gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:42   surely this only works for like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   favorite so you're known contacts like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:45   that's got to be a feature but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   to say it onstage because otherwise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   think google seriously do you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   don't get that really bothered me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   went unmentioned I I feel like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   Apple would say and don't worry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:59   only works for your contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00   see how easy that is google I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   again surely that's the case I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:03   they have to be engineered inside Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   you know who understand the privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:08   implications of unsolicited video from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:11   strangers appearing on your phone screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   but they didn't say it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   presentation or they didn't i missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   on i'm sorry now i don't think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:17   boy boy is someone put on the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20   junk time to face so the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:24   bothered me about the knock knock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   to be honest I didn't think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:27   but you're absolutely right but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   about me about knock-knock was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30   started from a good place which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   video calling phone calls in general but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   particularly video calls are extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   extreme interruption and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   really dedicate your entire attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42   a video call and sometimes it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   convenient time for that but then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48   I'm not in on the other side of the coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   what if what if Aaron is calling me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   say oh my god Declan just took his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   steps or something like that so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   what knock does is it lets you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59   this person is calling about so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   see Aaron in Declan and I can see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   freaking out and they in their little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04   demo reel video they showed a guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   holding up to ticket stubs like he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   gotten tickets to a concert or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   like that and then they showed another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   person who hold it up there left hand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   show i think was their engagement ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   and so the problem i had with this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:19   maybe I'm maybe I'm just being a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:20   about it but it was like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23   earn your right for them to pick up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   phone call when you have to earn it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   you can't just call and be smiling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   gotta perform you gotta put on a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   for I'm not picking up the damn phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   more than I gotta go bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   I don't think the real problem is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36   I it's only gonna be your actual people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   you know doing this right who's video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   calling you anyway no one is cold video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   calling you or any case you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   pick up it's going to be able you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   and the only time they would video call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   you instead of regular call you is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   they have something to show off or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:50   they're an adorable right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   why else are they gonna know what to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:53   a video call you just to essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   have a phone conversation because who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   wants people looking at them unless they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   have something to show are they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00   their an impressive place so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   know I don't know I guess it depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   who you talk to but i don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06   anybody who I would ever video call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08   would deny my call because I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   sufficiently excited while the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12   thing is any first-time conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   I've ever had has almost always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17   preceded by an iMessage conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   being saying head like to facetime your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   you cool you know it's almost to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   point John it's an almost never me cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   calling or somebody cold calling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   saying you're with no for previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:32   warning but is that perhaps because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   there is no knock-knock like feature for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   me to kind of screen that call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   maybe I do get those by the way I do get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   a surprising number of not not phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   calls but facetime calls randomly on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:47   phone and of course I'm max integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   with my father and throwing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:50   strangers know it's like an unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   yes that's unknown caller really number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   and and not a phone call and not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   FaceTime audio called actual facetime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58   video cool i don't know if there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00   war dialers out there every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:01   number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02   no I've never answered one of them so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:03   have no idea what's going on but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:04   annoying that it makes the facetime like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   bloop bloop sound like I've had like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:11   i have a few relatives who basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:14   treat facetime like phone calls and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:15   they will just call me on facetime like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   you know unannounced and that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   goal they can still do that I think yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:20   I'm and but I you know I've never wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   for this feature I'm sure it's fine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25   it's really going to be odd at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   before anybody is used to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   that's not how things have gone so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:32   with these kind of video calling things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   like so there's there's kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   expectation that you are not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   broadcast before the person picks up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   I think you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   you picking their nose and adjusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   their hair and stuff like that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45   like you know embarrassing prep before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   they think they're being watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   yeah I mean yeah there's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   people have to get used to but that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   think they will be so hopefully it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   optional feature again something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:55   didn't mention like is this optional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   yeah it should be for only known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:58   contacts and for known contacts should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   be an option because maybe you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:01   want that to be the case so really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   exactly the way you said you just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04   used to like until they pick up i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   on camera yeah a couple of quick notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07   about this it apparently does really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:11   really well with graceful degradation as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:15   the connection gets crappier and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17   whatever the opposite of that his things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:20   get better and the thing that I'm most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:24   excited about about this is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26   multi-platform and i believe at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   point or another they had said that LOL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30   and presumably duo operates where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:35   phone numbers kind of your user ID if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   you will and something that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   struggled with is aaron side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   family with the exception of aaron is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43   exclusively android and there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   several times where we'd like to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   video chat with her mom which in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49   normally looks about 20 minutes away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   maybe Declan is doing something funny or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   maybe I don't know is we want to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:56   her something in the house we'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   do video chat and we don't feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01   have a mechanism to do that now yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   know that skype exist yes i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   hangouts exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07   yes i know that there are many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:08   video chat apps that exists but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11   nothing that i personally have used that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14   is as easy as facetime and i hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:17   this duo thing will be as easy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:20   facetime and so will be able to install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:21   this on our iphones and my in-laws will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   be able to install it on their android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26   phones and we'll be able to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:27   very quick very simple video chats on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:31   whim which would be really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   awesome and I'm really looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34   to that hopefully working or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37   just wait for facetime to become an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39   standards because they're what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:40   going to the standards bodies today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:43   that it's just a matter of time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   yeah this is another thing that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   google's strength is in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49   with google hangouts for example is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51   is the the first and best sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:53   multiple people on a video stream thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   that I've ever used and I was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56   quality great no but they like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:59   really good video games and good iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   applications and so many good things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02   they are they understand that the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   important thing like they understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   hierarchy of needs in a video call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:10   number one audio if you have to drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:13   video committee on the audio do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   because nothing is it is more annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   than not being able to hear people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   then number two responsiveness video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   rather than quality if you have to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22   the quality too obscene level just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:23   keep track of someone waving their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:25   then do it like responsiveness and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   understanding the audio is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:28   important thing and my frustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   faint facetime is often that the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:33   will start coming out and makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:34   impossible to even communicate about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35   bed video and the video like will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:38   higher overall quality when it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40   but when my parents terrible internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   connection starts droppings and becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   like a slideshow I wish it would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   degraded to a much uglier algorithm or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   mean facetime will do this time we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:50   turn off the the video entirely to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   the audio but in practice it does not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   that soon enough it very often struggles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:57   with stuttering audio and I wish I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:58   just like just you know dropped entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:01   very often facetime calls have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   derailed by saying just call the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05   because we know the phone will work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:06   i'll be able to hear your words so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:09   gonna have you know the only thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:10   used video from google is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12   YouTube which of course is only cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14   back position and google hangouts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16   I've always been impressed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   performance under pretty you know dire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20   conditions of so many people all across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22   the country doing one big giant multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   video conference call think so I if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:28   do all things works and because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   cross-platform it may end up being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   easier like I will see evidence of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35   like my go-to like I probably still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   face time with my parents because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:38   just what they're used to but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:39   but a facetime is messing up i will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   this app install them make sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:42   have it installed two and i'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   switch to this happened we'll just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   be testing out facetime is dying because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48   of your internet weather over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49   trying to sell their app that i showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   you and hopefully it'll be simple enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   that they can figure it out and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   you know be connected up and i was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:56   i'm i'm optimistic about this is being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:59   decent product and like marco was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   ridiculing apple for the open sent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03   this you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:04   could have done this but hasn't that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   a spacetime gotten appreciably better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   since it was rolled out i'm sure it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:09   i'm sure it's got more reliable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   algorithm has gotten better and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   quality is probably better at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   and then Google's things going to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:17   that doesn't matter what I can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:18   every fifth word that my parents are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19   saying yeah and also facetime notably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:22   does not support more than two people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   a call yet and I i hope we get that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:27   some point is like you know I chat had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30   facetime was a thing like we had that 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   years ago so I know it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:35   challenging on mobile on cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:36   connections and everything it is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   easy problem by any means but I do hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   we get there but these duo i have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:43   mean it duo itself and implies to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46   don't think that duo is going to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   than one person is it hurt more than two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   people i should say look I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   nobody actually has like more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54   of the person with an android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:55   right are you talking about their more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:58   than fifty percent of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4978">TS</a>]

01:22:59   the other thing is supposedly ete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:02   encrypted always enterprise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:05   yeah that one's easy to encrypted always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:08   there was just that end-to-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10   encryption they didn't give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:11   qualification so I'm sure this means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:12   always mostly because at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:15   wouldn't say this is going to be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16   forever but at this point there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   Googlebot equivalent need to see every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   frame your video do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:21   intelligent but if there were sufficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   bandwidth both in terms of cpu and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:26   know and and data throughput throughput [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27   I'm sure like under on unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:30   conditions in a local environment google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   would love to have an intelligent agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:33   watching every frame for video and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35   intelligent things based on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   you know in this still image recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   is you can do that on video and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:42   video recognition where you're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   not just looking at individual frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45   with the actual video and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   something realize where you are what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50   you're talking about being able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   hand gestures seeing your facial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:53   expressions and then Google you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:57   with need to see your video and on local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5037">TS</a>]

01:24:00   device maybe maybe you could still be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:01   description but again there's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03   only is almost certainly a server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04   component to this and so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   how long and 10 encryption and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09   decryption on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:10   you only last until google realizes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:13   they can do intelligent helpful things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:14   by looking at your video so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17   probably still a ways off because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   spam with concerns and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20   but i wouldn't expect it to be always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   alright so update Stan droid yeah we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26   getting towards the end of it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   getting towards the end of this section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:29   I had to skim some of this but I i tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   to put some highlights in your answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:32   these things and i'm missing Vulcan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   Vulcan was kind of depressing because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   mean Apple Apple has been so far ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:40   with the graphics performance on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   devices for so long especially compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44   to like the average of Android versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   just like the high-end Android and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   Apple you know that OpenGL ES and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   did the metal thing which is a lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   level thing and that was great and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   I'm sure it's good for iOS game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   developers and everything but on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58   other side of the coin is the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5098">TS</a>]

01:24:59   open standard opengl khronos group thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   which is a Vulcan which is based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   mantle from AMD and a bunch of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   stuff and it's very much like metal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:07   you know these all these ideas have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   floating around the greatest community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:10   for a while I don't like to see Apple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12   the sky like the facetime situation oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15   we've got our own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   the only good thing about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19   Apple's own thing is actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20   influential because Apple a lot of game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   shop on Apple's platforms and they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:25   a lot of money so maybe they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:27   quote-unquote win just because most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:30   the money and game development is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:31   happening on iOS that would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33   rather see Apple supporting the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:37   standard like let's get everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39   working together to make the low-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41   graphics API that everybody's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43   use one as opposed to apple having its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   own but having its own is probably kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46   of a competitive advantage and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48   so big they can probably get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:49   it but it just depresses me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:52   fair enough let's see what else they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:56   a lot with just-in-time compilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:59   which is kind of exciting and even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:03   in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:04   installation which is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:08   well I that the instant apps think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   that's like about the just-in-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:11   compilation is with the flip side where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:12   I start to feel bad for google that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   still dealing with the jiggle ago will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:17   will like profile the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   and write the optimized version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   flash to make a faster launches time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   I know they have pre-compiled apps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25   but just that technical decision to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:28   with the initially a weird job ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30   language and just-in-time compilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32   and everything like they're still kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34   of paying the price of like having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36   having to try to match apple which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:40   shipping pre-compiled band binary is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:41   right bring about pre optimized binaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:44   that are you know they're smaller than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   they don't have to have the the yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   they're doing playing catch-up here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:51   maybe long-term they're still doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:52   right thing and maybe still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:54   advancement in the current stage there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   lots of weird compromises their digging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   out from underneath and so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   whole section of the slides that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:00   just things that Apple is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:01   concerned about because they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   these problems because they don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:04   jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:05   indeed they have what multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:09   yeah that was like that was the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:11   where it's like all right you did pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   much what Apple did which is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:14   imaginative when Apple did it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   imaginative when you did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:17   which part did you think was novel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:18   mean split-screen picture-in-picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:19   it's like literally like word-for-word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   the the you know iOS ipad much as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:25   did on the phone which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   something that Apple didn't do like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29   they would disable them what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:30   splitscreen on that the mini does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32   yep they don't know what the limits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:33   that features anyway on the iphone no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:36   but they showed it on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:37   basically top/bottom split instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   from the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:40   yeah well as you wouldn't want like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   inch wide absolutely side-by-side that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:45   would be awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:46   yeah well I don't know depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   app but uh you can scroll the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50   sideways it was and then they had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:53   the double tap to switch back really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   fast out here is here is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   killed Amos presentation I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59   understand why they did it they showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:01   their app switcher which looks like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02   apps which is like these days a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04   little cards look like webos for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   years ago showing all your applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:07   and I said by popular demand they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:11   a clear all button and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   essentially recognizing the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   lots of people either based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:18   superstition or bed reasoning related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:21   the iOS multitasker or on the Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23   side probably both of those as well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:26   also on both sides based on just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:29   idea that some people want to clean up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   messes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:32   that having a bunch of courting quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34   open application is visual clutter right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37   and they just want to clear out so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:39   the new version and the two things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41   limited to only seven so it's just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   go off the end you know they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:44   just don't show them which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46   nice for reducing clutter but I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:48   that's adjustable somewhere probably is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:50   because what if you want to see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:51   than seven and the second thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:52   clear all button is like sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54   just want to clean everything up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   i mean i-i don't think I mentioned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:57   before I've seen my son do it i saw him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59   using his iphone everything goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01   the app switcher and flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:02   applications up like whoa was like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:04   did you learn this who tipped like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:07   just they pick it up on the streets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:09   kind of like force quitting application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:11   so i had to explain to him you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:13   whole the we don't talk about that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15   on the show but the angle that i gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17   them I didn't explain them about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   multitasking suspended processes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   everything I said look but when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   that it's gonna actually exit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:26   program it's going to the United know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:27   I said force quit or whatever which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29   means the next time you launch it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:30   probably be two and a half minutes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32   now it has to launch from a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:34   fresh state whereas before it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36   spend it in memory ready to go the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   time you used it so you think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:39   quote-unquote saving battery which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:41   excuse he gave me but you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:43   not because launching from a fresh state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:45   takes more energy than unsuspecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47   application soldiers don't worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48   and don't leave them but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:49   angles in which you have no argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:50   yeah it's like I just don't like seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   their well so Android users apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54   have the exact same problems the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:56   big button that says clear all what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:58   hope the clear all button does is remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   the graphics but do nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:01   yeah suspended because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:04   people want they just don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:05   the squares there that's what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07   should do it i mean that have to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:08   new feature for actual force quit but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   wish flicking up the squares didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   anything except for remove them from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14   multitasking switcher but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:15   else take this and they just ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:16   suspended and imagine a normal way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:18   boy this this ailment this is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:22   the the zapping the pier am of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:24   mobile age or rebuilding the desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26   how far back you can go and repairing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   permissions for building that's older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:29   like these little solutions but this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:32   I think there's a foundation that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:33   just don't like to see the mess so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   hundred is giving them a clear all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:36   button that lead to have like a somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38   like it like a g8 summit for like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:41   who make computer devices to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:43   mythology is related to the multi-tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:46   switcher it's not there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:49   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:49   yeah I mean and I mean the sad part with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   the apple one is like it would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:53   if we didn't have to do that and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55   remove the ability to this so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57   people could stop doing this stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:58   thing but unfortunately it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:00   occasionally soft published yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:03   yummy way to force quit things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   did badly behaved you do need a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:06   do that so you have two you can't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08   that away and just I don't worry we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:09   manage all for you but the obsessive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11   need to do it every time I've seen my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:14   son do i watch them it's just he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:15   like it's just part of his routine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   like there's no point in that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   especially because you just convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:21   yourself that if i don't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:22   something bad will happen like oh I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   wish I just wish that it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   move the graphics but i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   that's like ninety percent of it people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:29   just don't want to see the squares they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:30   don't want to see the little rectangles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:31   they want they want to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   everything is a clean slate so fun get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   rid of the rectangle right but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37   know when the facebook app starts going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:38   crazy you do need some way to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40   kill it or sometimes it applications get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:42   all screwed up which happens as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   like perfectly well-behaved applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:45   with this a bug in them all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:47   and every time you bring them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:48   front they're just not working that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   happens and you need a way to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   them get rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   I know it's a difficult situation all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56   right I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:57   this is how absolutely solve all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:59   problems you get one free clear all a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:03   day and then if you want you are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:07   than a purchase yeah you can you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09   one for a dollar each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:11   if you want more after that that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13   growth issue with iphone revenue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:16   yeah if it's an its article is it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:19   energy-based mechanic where you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   exhaust your energy have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22   purchase to get more fit but clear all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:27   would I don't know I wasn't there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29   crowd i wonder if that was like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:30   applause feeder but they did say by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:32   popular demand I someone someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:36   works at Google please tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:37   doesn't actually do anything except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:38   remove the graphics it'll make me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:39   much happier right we should quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:42   talk about instant apps at this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:45   really big hairy technical mess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:50   might end up being really good has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:53   of potential risks a lot of potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   ramifications good and bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   and I we don't really know enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5577">TS</a>]

01:33:00   it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:01   I don't think to really to really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   like whether this is going to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:06   the risks totally are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   but what about security risks everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09   on hold on hold on let me let me kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   explain what's going on here so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13   explain sheeting summarizes some are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15   certain chief so it makes it longer what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17   you're doing it because you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:20   provide haha the idea within snaps is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:24   you're in a situation where you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26   want to consume some content that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   associated with a nap so they gave an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:31   example of wanting to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:32   buzzfeedvideo they gave an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34   walking up to an nfc-enabled parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   meter maid is critically it's you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38   you want to do something with with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39   app that you don't have installed sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:42   yes yes so you don't have this installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:43   and you walk up this parking meter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:46   the parking meter has some NFC ID that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:49   some way somehow google and android know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:52   are associated with such-and-such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:54   happening in the Play Store so what-what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:57   instant apps will do is it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5637">TS</a>]

01:34:00   behind-the-scenes instantly download the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:04   subset of the app that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   perform the particular function you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08   trying to do be that watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:09   buzzfeedvideo or pay for parking or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11   have you and it will do that and loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:14   instantly or thereabouts-- so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:17   available to you walk up to the parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:18   meter you swipe your phone near it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:20   NFC thing kicks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22   it will download the you know parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:25   meter app you can put money into it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:28   can use your android pay and walk away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30   and everything is good and you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:32   downloaded the entire app you've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   downloaded the pieces i'm assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36   intense in the Android system that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:38   that are required for the operations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:41   trying to perform at first glance it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43   sounds kind of good because i don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:46   downloading apps just for single-use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:49   events like this and actually i have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51   the past downloaded a parking meter app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:53   in the DC area specifically to park in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55   DC and then I've never used since and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:59   in theory this sounds kind of good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:04   what happens then when I walk away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:07   the meter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:08   I didn't pay close attention to what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:11   the brand of meter was or what app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:13   just got quietly installed for me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:16   need to add time like what do i do then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18   does it say oh you've just installed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:21   park minder app does it allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23   download the park binder app from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:25   play store because you've instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   downloaded it recently like how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29   that all work i'm actually less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31   concerned about android apps splitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   themselves up into pieces because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:36   tend to be from what I gather from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:37   Android developers a lot more modular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:39   but this whole like user interaction i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:43   think they leaves a lot of questions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:45   my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   well I mean they put the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   learning in the context thing like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:49   they said oh and you can add more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51   later I thought the same thing like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53   do I know what how to add time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   contextually basic machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57   stuff that they've already got it knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59   what you're talking about because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00   just did did a parking meter thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:03   so if you just yell into your phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:05   type in to your Google assistant app add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5765">TS</a>]

01:36:08   another minute to the meter it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:10   know what the heck you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:11   from context and I think it can already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:12   do that but i think the idea is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:15   from this kind of like getting more into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:18   the open docx model from a phone users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:21   perspective for certain classes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23   things and perhaps a very large class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:26   things they don't care so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   your app your app is important to you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   the app developer they just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   accomplish something in the world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34   it's paying for parking meter or buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:36   a movie ticket or you know making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38   reservation at a restaurant there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:39   front of and they just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5799">TS</a>]

01:36:42   accomplish that task they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:44   find the app that need to download do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46   found myself in a position where I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:47   to do something and I've heard that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:50   can do something with this store that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:51   know like what is their app called or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:53   what was the name of that app that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:54   heard or like just based on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:57   contextual clues and having an open API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:59   to say from the users perspective the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:01   phone will just do this something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:03   phone couldn't do before it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:04   they can do and fairly quickly without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:06   them having to search the appstore for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:08   an app and download I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   good user experience in something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:11   can be shooting for many problems exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5831">TS</a>]

01:37:13   in it security is probably one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:15   big ones but like you said like is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:17   spamming my phone with apps that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:20   installing I walked past parking meters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:22   or even if I initiated how do I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:24   track of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:24   crap that's getting installed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26   there's a potential downside for this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:29   be abused but on the other hand is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:30   very apple-like feature an apple is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:32   company that dreamed up open docx of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:34   like I'm not so concerned with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:36   application i'm concerned with my task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38   and it's like computers of the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40   like how does that thing all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42   know how to work with this thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:43   like magic really like oh I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45   used this thing before in my life but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:47   has android integration I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:48   do anything all of a sudden my phone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50   do this thing that it couldn't do before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:51   and I think that's awesome i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54   entirely sure google is the company to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56   pull that off based on the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58   weird things that go on in the Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:00   ecosystem but I i endorse the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:03   like like chrome books for example in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05   like the hole through your computer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07   it doesn't matter because everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:08   the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:09   I like the idea I like it's a goal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:12   don't know how close we are gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:13   through with this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:13   implementation but we'll see anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:16   else on Android and they didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:19   announced the name their soliciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20   names they made the joke about don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22   call it something makes something face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:24   but anything else on Android and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:28   I think it's gonna be interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:29   how much of this stuff you know plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31   out and develops none of us use android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34   really ever so I think it's funny that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36   we just spent two hours talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   this stuff but hey you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:39   industry news i think it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41   interesting to see you know a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:43   commentary so far has been that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:46   a lot of like underwhelming stuff a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:49   of it is kind of just matching Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:51   features or giving their response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53   apple features and you know that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:55   how the industry goes you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:56   there are some years where Apple borrows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58   heavily from google features and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:00   are some here for the reverse happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:01   and this is a very mature market of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:05   these advanced smartphone OS is where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:08   don't think we can really expect changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:11   that are on a much bigger scale than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:13   this most years because it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:16   know we're to the point where this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:18   is mature and the low-hanging fruit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:20   often picked and and is that really what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:22   you think after seeing this impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24   like Oh low hanging fruit they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:25   kind of similar things we shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   expect big changes that was not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28   impression i got this all I mean like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:30   the OS level like these kind like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:32   know that the stuff they're doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:34   with like data services and machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36   learning ding ding is like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38   that is where the advancements happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:40   for google now you don't think in snaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:42   is like having implementation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:43   Bruno's and by the way this implication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:45   work our way back to jelly bean which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:47   another kind of sad part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:48   presentation was like oh look good we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:49   are about backward compatibility and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51   it's because you can't move your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:52   installed base to your most recent ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:53   but anyway um I think that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:56   admirable and interesting goal that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:59   one else is even touching like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01   where have you seen something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   before I think it's an awesome idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:06   there are the first big player to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:08   it's a thing and you can try to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10   then you know lots of caveat about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:12   but that's you know opendocument working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:14   maybe this won't work either but from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:16   user perspective i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:17   significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:18   I guess again that i would call that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:20   OS feature like that'sthat's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:22   what else is like launching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:23   installing launching and running apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   that's that's significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:27   I don't know that it's potentially so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:29   problematic like from just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:31   security and technical perspective like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:33   nothing it can't be done but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:35   thought like it's going to come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:37   yeah yeah it's gonna be hard to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:39   well and correctly and safely at and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:42   depends on supports like Apple pay would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:44   be crap if I couldn't use it anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:45   but you know it and it is that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:48   technology and the idea behind applebees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:50   could be great but if I can use it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:51   of the stores that would be a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:52   failure so there is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54   infrastructure project which is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:55   because you're like oh androids the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:56   majority they should be great on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:57   infrastructure but like they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6057">TS</a>]

01:41:00   majority but they're not always where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02   the money is and that kind of tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:03   lead with two what you know so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:05   let's put it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:06   well this is an idea that I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:08   should share and i think my overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:10   impression of this entire presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:11   is so how incredibly far behind apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:16   in so many of these areas and how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:17   don't see any hope of them catching up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:19   like all the things that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:20   emphasize all their strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:22   machine-learning server-side stop all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:25   that I just look at that and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:27   it was an apple-like we can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29   we're terrible this stuff we're so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31   behind them i can't even see them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:32   distance anymore they're this tiny speck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:35   like they apples just trying to take its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:36   basic services and make them reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:38   and have some sort of infrastructure for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40   doing things that Google is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41   reliably like five years ago this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:43   this stuff is not a glimmer anyone's I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:45   Apple they've got Syrian haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:46   able to advance it i think is dancing / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:49   series grave like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:50   hi just if you're an apple fan like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:54   makes me think about the good old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:55   when applicable working together on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:57   iphone how awesome would have been if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:58   they had like you know divide the labor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:01   is Apple you make the hardware in the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:03   and we'll do the services and together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:04   we'll make the awesome platform in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:05   future I didn't happen unfortunately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:09   now we have the situation where Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:11   is just so much better it's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:13   things than apple and that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:15   seem like apples getting better not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:17   not getting better fast enough or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:18   something i'm not getting better at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:19   at and it's just it depresses me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   I guess on the bright side as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23   apple continues to make a good quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25   hardware and a pretty good OS that sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26   a lot of copies will continue to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   forced to make like it's do application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   for iOS but the other features again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33   snaps we have to wait for Apple to copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:35   and all the machine learning stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37   don't have any real hope of Apple ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39   copying if their past history is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41   judge so boy this i think this was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:45   not like a giant victory of google also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:47   apple because again there's things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:48   Apple does better as well and each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:50   is obviously going to emphasize the area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51   where they're stronger but this I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:54   like at Google is accelerating away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:57   Apple not just barely staying ahead in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6177">TS</a>]

01:42:58   the areas that has always been ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:00   yeah I think that's really stupid one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:03   the quick point I wanted to make and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:04   then we should probably wrap is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:06   talk about android wear to a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:09   quick thoughts about that number one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:11   understand why the watch i carry on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13   wrist today and everyday is a rounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:16   rect but man that circles looks so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:19   better and number two they had a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:24   of different means of input including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26   like a swype keyboard which strikes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:27   is freaking terrible but they also had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:31   handwriting where as you write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:35   Scrolls to the left automatically which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:38   i think i've seen in like one note or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40   something like that in years past but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:43   seemed like an incredibly clever way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:44   handle text input on a watch because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:47   can put you know about a character on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49   the screen at a time and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51   scrolling automatically you know under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53   your finger it looked at a glance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:55   it worked really really well and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:58   very curious to hear if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00   implemented well and if it is then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:03   wanted on my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:04   I i still believe that anytime you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06   doing text input on my watch you've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:08   i agree but in a pinch it would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:11   to not have to use Siri just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:13   graffiti yeah let's draw the same draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:15   the same letter or the same spot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:16   don't need to scroll just keep doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18   same letter on the watch face yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:20   the android wear what has going for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:22   is they're trying over the head right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:25   well honestly I mean that the way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:28   not gonna get too far into this next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:29   craft time but honestly i-i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:31   know case you mention like man round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:33   look so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34   android wear can do different shapes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:37   apple can because the design of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39   platform from the beginning was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41   very android way to to have a scalable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:45   system that could apply to you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:48   large set of different device sizes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6288">TS</a>]

01:44:51   shapes and characteristics that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:53   ultimately will prove to be the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:56   way for wearables to be designed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:58   wearable platform to be designed I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00   don't think the Apple the current Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:03   watch model of we're just going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05   one type of watch in one shape with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:10   configuration basically you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:12   you know they yeah they allow all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:13   different bands and there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:14   different sizes of the same shape but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:16   it's basically one configuration of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:19   watch and I I think ultimately the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:22   android version of you can have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:25   sorts of different sizes and shapes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28   different capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30   you know I think that will ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:31   prove correct for wearables where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:34   didn't really necessarily prove correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:35   for phones but because most people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37   want a rectangle phone with decent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:40   screen that has a whole bunch of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42   know hardware in it and stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:43   think watches and wearables it'll prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:46   the opposite direction and then I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:47   wonder and i'll be very curious to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:49   if apple takes the watch in that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:52   direction because honestly I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:54   they are headed that direction and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56   that worries me but we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58   alrighty thanks a lot 23 sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:01   week ring automatic and pingdom and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:03   will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:06   now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:10   mean to begin as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:14   it was accidental John didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:19   any research Marco in kc wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:22   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:22   because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:27   and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:31   dot and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:39   yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:44   co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:51   syracuse it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6411">TS</a>]

01:47:00   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:05   somebody who shall remain nameless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:09   who is too embarrassed to be named on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11   this particular podcast tells me tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:14   us our tells me specifically that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16   wrong about quitting iOS and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:20   it's his only salvation salvation from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22   what from my assuming is battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:25   draining places you want a video it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:27   completely replicable and I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:29   told him and in the track here is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:33   thought covered all bases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34   yes sometimes isn't badly behaving app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:37   that you have to force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:38   sometimes an application is in a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:40   state that the only way you can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:41   to work again this force quitting it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:45   some applications even when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:46   working perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:46   you need to force quit right when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:47   done with them if you don't want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:48   sucking your battery down true all true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:51   and yet i still say the reflexive habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:54   of force quitting every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:55   application every time you're done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:56   it is crazy because you were draining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:58   your battery more because you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6478">TS</a>]

01:47:59   launching them fresh the next time use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:00   them which is gonna be 30 seconds from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:02   now when you launch your twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:02   applicant crazy what I'm against is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:05   reflexive routine force quitting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:08   everything and that is the habit i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:09   not the selected based on past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6489">TS</a>]

01:48:11   experience that I have to fit force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6491">TS</a>]

01:48:13   this application or drains my battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:14   no that's not how people act most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:16   it's just like lick lick lick lick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18   select use like use flick their double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:20   tapping the home but my crazy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:22   cannot have a single they can only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:24   have one thing there when they're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:25   with it it's like it so I can go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:26   springboard and see nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:28   it's you know it's and he's saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:33   not about that about a possible launch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:35   said sometimes you begin to a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:36   where you bring them to the foreground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:38   they do nothing you have to force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:39   them to be able to launch them again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6519">TS</a>]

01:48:41   I understand that and yes sometimes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:42   OS get so host you gotta reboot but none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6522">TS</a>]

01:48:46   of this argues for you must reflexively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48   force quit every single application on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50   your phone every time you use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51   which again is exactly what i see that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53   what I see my son doing and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:55   reason with him has not worked me still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:56   does it and it's an embarrassment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58   ok to talk about me like any reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:04   any legitimate reason that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:07   force quit all these apps all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:09   is probably either a bug or short coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:13   in the operating system and so like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:15   apple should fix those like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:18   totally valid today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:19   a say I need to I need the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:22   force quit apps because sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24   don't want right or whatever you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:25   you're always gonna need the ability but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27   just turn to be a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29   blanket habit is not good yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:32   like the Apple watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:34   this is not a good example in general of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:36   how to design a responsive and stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:38   software platform but the apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:40   has a way to force quit apps without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:43   having app switcher most little know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:45   about it but you can do it it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6585">TS</a>]

01:49:47   we basically hit the sleep button yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:49   again it's a look it up but yeah it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:53   has a way to do that so like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:56   possible to still have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58   gesture involving the the sleep/wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:00   button and holding it down in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:02   certain way to have a force quit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04   method without having without putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:08   in the switcher and having that be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:09   method but i don't know that i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:11   whole design of the most items which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:12   itself needs a lot of help in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:15   ways not least of which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:17   conceptually everybody thinks all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:19   are always running all the time and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:21   clear mount so that's that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6621">TS</a>]

01:50:22   many problems with the current iOS app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:24   switcher that is ultimately a design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6624">TS</a>]

01:50:27   problem non-technical one and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29   technical problem is when when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:31   that get stuck in that state where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6631">TS</a>]

01:50:32   have to kill it because it won't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:34   again like it will launch and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:35   you know run it and use it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37   useless or like you'll tap the icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:40   nothing will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:40   yeah and then like or just memory gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43   filled or corrupted as an OS bug that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:45   happens but none of that argues for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6645">TS</a>]

01:50:47   hands-on time first of all you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:49   problem with your phone and it's it's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:51   obviously otherwise probably has plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53   of people use their phones and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:55   don't force quit anything ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:56   essentially cuz i don't use the Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6656">TS</a>]

01:50:58   and bounds anything and i used to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6658">TS</a>]

01:50:59   iOS devices for years not for escorting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6659">TS</a>]

01:51:01   everything so it's always in an endemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:03   bug that that affects every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:04   device this happened to yours who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:06   what's going on maybe have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:07   don't accept it as the status quo as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:10   things working correctly and even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:11   it you do have a problem like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:13   you can target but figure out which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:15   applications of the problem when do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:16   need to do this because if you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:19   that every if you just give up and say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:21   have to do this all the time it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6681">TS</a>]

01:51:23   the easiest system that works like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6683">TS</a>]

01:51:25   feel like a total failure of the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:27   like it's not the users fault at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:28   point it's just like the product is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:30   frustrated the user that they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:32   that this is their tools for dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:33   with it which is blanket force quitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:35   and they will never move away from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:36   because it's the only thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:37   giving them salvation on whatever weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39   things going on their phone or the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41   that use and I feel like a papal saw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:44   do that they would feel that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:45   failed you as a vendor of our products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:47   because they don't want you to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6707">TS</a>]

01:51:49   that way and you shouldn't have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:50   that way and you feel like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:51   whether it's true or not whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:53   have to if you feel like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:55   that's a that's a break down there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6715">TS</a>]

01:51:57   anyway I would say if you if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6717">TS</a>]

01:51:59   listening to this and you're effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:00   force quit all your apps consider trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:05   to target your force quitting trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:07   target better and maybe if there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6727">TS</a>]

01:52:09   application that's a particular problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:11   get off your phone i know you can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:12   people to get rid of facebook it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6732">TS</a>]

01:52:14   telling people i don't know like to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:16   up their firstborn but if that's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:19   option for you in the face gives the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6739">TS</a>]

01:52:20   book is problematic one just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:22   reflexively force quitting facebook but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:24   don't say reflexively force quit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6744">TS</a>]

01:52:26   favorite twitter app because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:27   probably fine or maybe two rappers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:29   problem i don't know i just i'm telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6749">TS</a>]

01:52:30   you is that it's not normal that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:33   shouldn't have to do this and and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:35   many people who spend years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6755">TS</a>]

01:52:37   using iOS devices across multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39   hardware models and multiple OS miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:41   with multiple apps who don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:43   how to force quit and they're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:45   so it is not like a fact of life on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:48   and people should not be doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6768">TS</a>]