00:00:00 ◼ ► I don't think we let ourselves just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► idiots often now don't that we don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► feel like that's our core competency so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► sitting at i would guess thirty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► battery life i am aware that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► turn on battery percentage i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► is the mark of a lunatic because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/20">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► that doesn't stretch me out when it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► I'd rather not know anyway so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/25">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► sitting it i would guess about a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/27">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► battery life and I go to record a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/29">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► of Declan we were walking around outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► and as i'm recording the video they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► I it's not that I was framing and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► actively recording the video all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/39">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► unfortunately common but that was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/44">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► but ok so i go to turn the phone back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/47">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► wait that's common well common enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► that we're it's I don't want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► functional high ground but it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/55">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► a functional high ground sort of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► occurrence right like oh that was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/58">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► but I'm sure once it reboots itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/59">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► windows recency is showing like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/64">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► acceptable behavior like the head that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/67">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► is not normal yeah well do before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► show we were just talking about how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► everything but that's neither here nor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► yeah I didn't say that was right either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/77">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► so I go to start the phone back up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► it tells me no i won't because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► what you know what I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/86">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► like the i will not start until you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► yeah ID a little like better the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► line and black screen yeah yeah so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► 30-percent so I do the like hold both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/95">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► buttons until it forced restarts itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► dance and starts back up and i'm back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► thirty percent ok that was really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► but I'll roll with it and then I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► record a video again same exact thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► mm except this time it didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► turn itself back on your batteries toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/113">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► I've heard of this a lot of people about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► his problem with many different models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► of phone iphone in the past that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► exactly same symptoms you get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/121">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► battery down to something that's below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► half but not really really low and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/124">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► it's just like nope no battery for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► and the same thing like sometimes it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/130">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► like oh here i am again twenty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► you got to take that in that's that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► very common symptom and i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► don't know what it is it could just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► bad battery just can't maintain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/138">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► voltage and once it gets below a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► level the phone just like that so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► for that but then you bring it back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/143">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► it's like I can maintain the voltage now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► I'm not really i can you just gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► don't bother like like some people John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► Roderick who live with this for like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► year or more and accept it as just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► this darn phone is like that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► Marco set that is that's not the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► it's supposed to work you have to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► that in tell them the symptoms I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► they've heard a million times before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/162">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► because this is a common symptom there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► one exception though that is also almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► exactly the same behavior you get during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► yeah obviously temperature stuff and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► assuming it's spring it's like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► too hot not too cold I i assume you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► hadn't left in the Sun on the dashboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► of your car before using it now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► just going for a walk about a mile and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► half walk it was in my jeans pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/182">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► there was no i mean it's it's humid out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/183">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► because it's been raining for the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► year but uh but no there was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► environmental that should have cost it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► what I've done is I've left it plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► in and have been planned to leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► plugged in all night just to see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► wouldn't this is before we had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► conversation but I thought I well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/202">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► something like that so i'll just i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► leave it plugged in all night I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► always leave it plugged in all night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► diligent about leaving a plugged in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► we'll see if that for change that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► sounds like I'm making a trip to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/215">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► genius bar we typical typical windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► blame yourself just defragment hurt no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/219">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► totally your fault but aren't you happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► now like everyone if I had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► does happen especially on a device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/229">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► I've had for a while but like oh yes new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► battery know that your battery's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/232">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► old anyway how many cycles have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/235">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► through I any fresh new battery assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► well I mean it's a it's a success so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► yeah I'm still under warranty but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► that also means i gotta go to the genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► bar I've got to do the backup dance I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► got to convince them that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► is an actual issue that isn't my fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► etc so i guess i'm sure they make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► they are well versed in this exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► problem and have a procedure and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► not the first person to tell them it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► I will say though it really went when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► first saw this doing thermal shutdown it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► was on tips phone this past winter when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► she was trying to take videos of our kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► playing in the snow in like didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► yeah like and the phone like after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► a couple seconds shooting video just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► kept shutting down on her and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/280">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► we thought we'd broken and I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► we're bringing in and then like we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► you came inside like it the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► could never be reproduced it at room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► temperature and we were like oh and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► looked up and I figured out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/291">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► actually expected behavior that i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/292">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► commercials like the shot an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► where people are like on ski vacations I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► guess they're taking really short shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► I let you have to keep the phone you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► keep the phone in the pocket that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/304">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► essentially outdoors like your pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► are you know if you were to if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► pocket cold in other words you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► have it in a pocket that sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/311">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► inside of the body heat part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► because that's all the really it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/314">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► as if your phone freezes solid within 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► seconds is already frozen when it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/317">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► your pocket and you take it out and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► goes that you know the little extra bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► so you really have to either keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► inside inside your glove or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► close to your body so that the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► stays at more or less body at room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► temperature then you get a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► before it freezes solid into a brick of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► energy lithium-ion battery are you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► to look at those little hand warmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/338">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► things a little shaky packets but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► candles enough that they give off heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► you could someone should so a case like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► that you already got the big lump of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► battery case that by the heat case for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► the winter and that then it will get hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► well it doesn't get that those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► are you so the the hand warmer things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► are the things that people who live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► ridiculous climates use right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► skiers use it all the best as I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► know someone in the tavern remember this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► before the age of the chemical packets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► that you put in your pocket that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► know you started reaction they will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► warm not hot being a warm like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/368">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► they're not bring your hands because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► they have lawsuits they had these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► that were kinda like metal clamshell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► things that had inside them essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► burning embers like not open flames but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► burning ember stick to give off heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► sounds like that the most dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► and that was the old tech and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► much more so that the new stuff is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/389">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► considerably a safer and more civilized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/390">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► what was it like was it airtight seal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► down there or how do i my recollection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► was that was like a clamshell look more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/399">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► kind of like a compact or a snuffbox or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► something and that do the little burning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► ember things you get out by opening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► closing it that way but you use it close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► and just had a metal outside that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/407">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► radiate the heat weird as it sounds kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► of crazy like contraption from your drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► this is the beginning of the add our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► first sponsor this week is fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/418">TS</a>]
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00:07:16 ◼ ► have to worry about this giant pane of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► glass hang on your wall like pulling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/437">TS</a>]
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00:07:22 ◼ ► for their size and the front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/442">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► majors this in piece of glass with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► photo print on the back so it shines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► this is the best way to get photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► printed and hang them up or put on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► desk or sending the people for gifts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► whatever else i have these all over my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► office friends use them other podcasts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► know use themselves because they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► their shows first and they found him out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► and they're just so good and we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► get compliments on our fracture Prince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► I mean I probably I have something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► see seven of them around the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/471">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► everywhere and i said i've said probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/475">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► five or six more as gifts they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/476">TS</a>]
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00:08:01 ◼ ► yourself the prices are very reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/481">TS</a>]
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00:08:07 ◼ ► get an additional ten percent off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/487">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► regular prices really if you have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► photos to print and honestly you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► be printing photos because these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/492">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► you know you post photos on facebook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► instagram if you can find on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/496">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► anymore that crazy icon but you post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► photos on Facebook or Instagram or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► whatever else and you see them for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► a day and then they're just buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► the feed so with fracture you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► can have those photos live longer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► and you can give them as gifts you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► have them kind of like you know elevated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► to to a more prominent place in your in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► your house in your vision in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► I just a great way to remember great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► and together with gifts as well so check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/519">TS</a>]
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00:08:49 ◼ ► so you always get good stuff I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► had one break i've never heard of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► they're really good no worries here i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► use them recommend them they're awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/536">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► fracture me.com code ATP 10 to save ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/537">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► this is the end of the end anonymous is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► written in and said can you please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► Tesla's offering to unlock and that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► scare quotes physical features already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► otherwise lockdown it seems worrisome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► that in in-app purchase strategies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► spilling over into hardware not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► software updates like autopilot what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► this is about is the Tesla Model ass the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► 70 kilowatt-hour I couldn't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► yes anyway uh for the 70 you can pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► 3250 dollars to unlock its another five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/572">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► kilowatt hours so you can pay 3250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► dollars for someone to flipping left an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► electronic switch and that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► about that man that just seems a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► weird to me like on the one side they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► are indeed making the car better so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► shouldn't you pay for that but on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► other side they make it better in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/596">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► many other ways and you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/597">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► pay for that so why is this something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► the triggerman Twitter about this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► like in that purchase where they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► be the app that has the code for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► features that are currently locked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► by doing that purchase all they do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► flip a bit that enable that feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► another word you got you just like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► you get the car the car comes with extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► battery but it's not enable you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► functionality but it's not enabled that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► was mostly me being snarky because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► course the difference is that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► cost money to manufacture the additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► essentially free whereas someone paid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/629">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► manufacture and assemble the parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► your car that they're giving to you in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/636">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► disabled State so you actually are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► receiving like that's that's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► the package is a physical good it costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► however it is they put that extra bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► battery and that that's a real physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► item it's not just the simple copying of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► now i don't know if this makes us good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► from a business standpoint in terms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► you feel better or worse about Teslas a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► company in light of this maybe you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► better we select your car magically got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► better but maybe feel worse than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/666">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► you understand you paid to manufacture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► assemble this this stuff and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► give it to me but you intentionally turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► it off it's like you're making my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► works on purpose and then ransoming at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► last little bit unless i'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► misunderstanding what they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/681">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► doing with this big flipping but if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► is actually a physical thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/685">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► are paying to create and then giving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► you in a shutoff state to try to ransom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► more money from you later it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► give me a particularly good feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/693">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► definitely a weird thing and yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► agree that it's probably not a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► win customer satisfaction people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► feel ripped off by that like people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► own the 70d and then learn that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► you have 75 kilowatt capacity physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► but we only ship to 70 and then you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/716">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► you want you can pay three thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► I can totally see why the people who own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► those seventies are like that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► kinda that's kind of BSE that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► bit BSE but it you know Tesla it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► a weird company a weird stage in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► life doing weird things and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► those things are our I think overall for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► the better with the model s keep in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/740">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► understand and the main reason is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/747">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► basically fund the company's further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► development do you think that the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/751">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► 3 because like if you look at what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► included in the model s and the starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► price of whatever it is like 70,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► whatever whatever starting president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/760">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► Model S's and then you look at the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► 3 but the starting price of 35,000 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► we already know some of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/767">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► will be included it won't be included in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► that and it seems kind of crazy if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► try to estimate roughly how big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► batteries there in the model 3 roughly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/775">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► bigger battery is there you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► possibly cut the cost of the car in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► and sell the model 3 with so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► what was also in the model s and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► answer is that their costs aren't being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► cut in half just the Model S has a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► fat profit margin and the model 3 won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► so what you're paying for the model s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► today is not just like cost of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► components plus twenty percent you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► you're paying a premium for it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► it is a brand-new product you're paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► kinda like the early adopter premium on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► it it has high profits now in the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► run it will have lower profit margins in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► all likelihood this competition will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/815">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► come in and push prices down and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► know as things mature than the cost will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► also go down but the role of the Model S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/820">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► is basically to generate lots of profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► for Tesla to make the model 3 so from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► that perspective i can see why they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► things like this because you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► that additional battery that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► hauling around additional five kilowatt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► hour battery did not cost Tesla $3,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/835">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► to put in there or even if it did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► already paid for it like they sold you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► car with that battery in it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► price that you paid you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/845">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► like that was like that one of the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► room is saying it's the type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► where they stopped manufacturing the 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► kilowatt but you bought a 70 yellow want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► to like well we don't have anymore 70 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► lots will give you 75 but flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► switch so that when you get it it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► like the 70 that you order like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► that was the arrangement you are 270 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► comes with 70 kilowatts we give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► car that comes with 17 what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► should be happy but again from a from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/866">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► feel good about the company perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/870">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► should they should do what Apple does in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► those cases where like if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/872">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► really old Mac and something goes wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► with it and you're still within warranty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/875">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► or whatever our apple just feels bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/876">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► they're like well we can't we can't fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► this for you we can't replace the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/880">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► because we don't make that part anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► and we can't give you a new like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► know laptop of this kind would anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► make that laptop but here you go here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► the current model that laptop what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► an apple and every time it happens it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► like a you know a miracle so the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► get it like you're getting me not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► you're giving me a new better laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► because you don't make my old crap you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► want anymore and you're not charging any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► money for it because it's just like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/905">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► this laptop is a total write-off it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► have too many hardware fairies we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/908">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► get a part that makes people love apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► so if Tesla that's on the terms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► would make people feel bad who bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► 17 just got a 70 if you wanna 70d after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► they stopped manufacturing them and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/917">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► gave you a 75 and I can I know you order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► 70 but here's seventy-five you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/921">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► love Tesla you'd be like this is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/923">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► and what 70 people be met because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► have their car for a year or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► wouldn't be for legendary what is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► know do other mac users get mad like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► that's no fair i had to pay for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► computer new you bought an old crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► computer in a broken you got the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/937">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► for free and anyone who begrudge people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► their good fortune involving you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► that the time they chose to purchase at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/943">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► so anyway I don't think this is as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► know tomorrow like this this is a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► that you know it costs a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► has a big margin the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/954">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► buying it are probably not caring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► much about three thousand dollars here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► expensive car so in the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► things maybe doesn't hurt them but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► sort of uh they've missed an opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► to become even more beloved using you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/966">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► know the apple style thinks I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► like you know surprising delight or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/971">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► whatever not just in your application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/972">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► but also in your policies is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► reason people like the genius bar i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► people have bad experiences with it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► well but to go there have a person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► you know will take care of your needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► and if there's any sort of issue to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► the people go that that's like kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/986">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► a a luxury goods experience where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► pay if you really really massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► the one good thing is like if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► anytime or given you an hour will clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► it up for you for free or whatever even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► though you don't massively overpay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► apple stuff we just a little bit over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► pay when you go on with your broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► computer and they can't replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► because it's too old and they give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► brand-new model that's just awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► that's like your your loyal for at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► another three years before you mad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► yeah and also keep in mind also like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► know even though all the hype right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► is about the model 3 for the next like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► two years possibly more the Model S is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► still the only test that you can buy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► the X i guess but nobody wants that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► sorry x people so like the the entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► cheapest model s that is the entry price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► for Tesla for the next ex years you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► 23 whatever whatever ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► before anybody can just go order model 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► I delivered you know in six weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► whatever so the lower they can make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► price the more people they can get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► they also though want to preserve those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► profit margins on the higher spec models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► because that's funding the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► company so it's important for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► get to somehow get the price down enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► so they can get a few more people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► basically without cannibalizing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► higher end sales so they have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► tricks like this where it's like well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► we sold it just as a 75 before and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► was like 75 for that one or 85 for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► for the big one up that was too small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► difference we would lose many sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► maybe they figured so they would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► made that 170 even though technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► had 75 then there are something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► that you know and and then when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► raised the other one from 85 to 90 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► they raised the other one from 7075 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► because now you're just keeping the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► difference is there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► reasons why they could have done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► that make total sense and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► they might annoy some of the customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► who don't think things should work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► way you know it might be better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► alternative for the company as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► you know this isn't unprecedented either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► like when i first heard about the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► few days back my first thought was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► thinking about it while you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► talking no i paid almost a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► dollars for a cobb accessport which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► colloquially but really it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► software programmer that you plug into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► the obd2 port and it will reflash the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► computer and and give you a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► more power and makes car little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► faster and then I was taking myself well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► but that's a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► because that's third party and so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► makes sense that a third party is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► to want to sell you something to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► your car better but I got thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► a little more and it occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► BMW cells what they call the performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► power kit which to my understanding does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► have a little bit of hardware involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► but the majority of the changes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► simply reflash just like my cop does so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► this is a first-party thing and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► it's not entirely apples to apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► hardware but it's a first-party thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► that i'm looking on BMWs website right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► now and it's 2107 dollars so this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► then what BMW is already doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► presumably other manufacturers as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► but I wonder can you pirate a battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► flipping but never live in the BMW case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1198">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► may be part of the money that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► paying is to offset increase warranty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► operating slightly outside the intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► you know boundaries of whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► depending on what it's changing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► the engine that could be impacting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► reliability or other issues like it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► the price is basically everyone paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► this price as a blanket insurance policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► for the slightly increase odds that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► you're going to have your valvetrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► blow up or whatever i could be but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► mean i would hope and assume that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► engines are built in such a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► they're tolerances give them enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► leeway that a first-party solution would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► not bump up against any of that now by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► solution might but there's a reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► sell them where they said they sell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► they tried but the car manufacturer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► trying to do or sell their engines tuned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► in a way that balances performance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► reliability because and economy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► emissions right so this is the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► bunch of things in the mix there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► they're going for something that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► you know the worst thing you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► happen as you set these cars out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► with particular balance of things and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► turns out that all the men of coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► back in like six years with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► really expensive wrong with the end like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► you don't want that to happen but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► people say well I know you can squeeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► more horsepower this thing if only you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► increase the boost on the turbos or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► know did change the the timing or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1281">TS</a>]
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00:28:39 ◼ ► it misleading investors and then in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► cases just outright wrong say it needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► to be taken with a lot of with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► salt so that being said I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► you can look at at the medium here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► podcasting medium the way the way it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► worked so far which basically works like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► RSS readers that happen to play audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► files it's basically it like its precise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► photoshop RSS feeds with mp3's or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► a seasoned the vast majority of mp3s was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► gonna say that from now on and clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► are basically RSS readers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► affect those RSS feeds for everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► described to and when a person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► present they download the mp3 file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► that's better than the liquid which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► better than the feed they print then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► they showed he was an episode where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► playing it's simply playing mp3 it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► not like loading pages on the site of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► the of the podcast provider or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► like that it is not executing javascript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► on their behalf it is not sending them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► tracking information they do get the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► hit on their server for when you fetch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► that mp3 so they did so podcasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► already have a certain amount of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► about their listeners and so the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► that like you know Appling to step in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► and provide data so that people can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► any idea what what size their audiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► it's a little exaggerated because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► already know how big our audiences it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► a little bit approximated but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► you know I think history shows with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► lot of this you know data science in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► massive quotes I'm just my fingers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► just constantly moving during this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► this whole thing constant air quotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► just up and down all the like web data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► stuff is also in precise so you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► is also very easily faked and defrauded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► all the problems that apply to what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► have now also apply to to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► proper my fingers are still moving big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► data kind of analytics and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► creepy tracking stuff anyway so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► already know how big the audience is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► a rough degree where they are to a rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► degree and how many of them downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► show we don't need that level of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► integration where you go much beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► this yet and we might in the future in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► order to get like hi ad rates but right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► the reason the web had has had well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► quote had to my fingers still moving had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► to do all this creepy data stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► because web address just plummeted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► mean they were never great to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► and over the years since the web has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► been a thing I think they just basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► always gone down because general like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► web display ads like ads you see on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► side of a new site or increasingly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► top of the news that you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► read a floating in flying around the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► site in the background of the news site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► and every sidebar button below the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► content posing as content posing as all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► these top news stories because we're do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► tricks the new scientists wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► learn about britney spears like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► the reason it keeps getting so bad on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► the web is that nobody looks at web ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► nobody see it's not that people see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► ignore them but people even see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► even if you don't have an ad blocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► installed you like visually don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► them like heat you like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► perceive them you you skip over them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► the whole banner blindness thing is real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► there's very little that that web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► publishers can really do to make a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► of money on those things and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► tracking stuff just to try to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► slightly more targeted to raise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► rates slightly more and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► programmatic ad exchanges which makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► everything even worse and even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► horrible and even more creepy track but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► this that's alongside that we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► get any more into summary version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► basically the web sucks for ads like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► is it is a terrible place to advertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► it is a terrible place to publish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► advertisements to try to make money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► additionally as i mentioned before all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► the massive fraud that goes on like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► such a mess it is so it's just bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► everybody because the medium just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► doesn't work that well for display just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► simple as that and as everything gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► more and more cutthroat and advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► generated and everything it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► getting worse and worse hours and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► this kind of no one inside there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► the web the web as a place to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► through advertising is really a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► pretty bad place to be so podcasts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► the other hand because these are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► it's just an audio stream there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► basically nothing you can really do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► advertise in an audio stream except just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► insert a an ad that somebody is speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► into the stream and because of lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► reasons there's not a lot of tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► you can do to say like you know did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► exceptions but for the most part nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► you can't really track the people here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► this day people listen this far on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► show like you pretty much can't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► cause like what if somebody's playing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► on their ipod didn't even have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► internet connection you know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► you don't know that they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► playing the file you downloaded from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► and there's no way for that report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► what if they're playing it in like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► like web in bed or Twitter and Bedwyr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► like they're just babies can see the mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► file but they're not like loading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► whole app there are they're not loading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► your whole webpage or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► they're still listening and buy by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► wrong metric of download counts they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► will be counted but that's all you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► really get one of the soothing sound of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► our voices put them to sleep and as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► fall asleep and that's why exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► she should we get paid for those like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► it that there's no way to tell whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► somebody has listened to a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► basically unless you control the app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► so anyway this to me is like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► I i love the web and it makes me so sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► to see what the web has become over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► last five years or so as everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► just gotten so much more cutthroat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► algorithmic content generation and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► just and said it's it's just it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► mess and as a fan of both the web as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► openness of blogging and RSS feeds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► everything which I still used by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► still use an RSS reader it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► that world is is losing to Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► Twitter and an apple and these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► kind of closed ecosystems that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► very sad and podcasting is still run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► that way the question basically the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► debate here is whether podcasting can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► still be run that way for a longer time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► or whether this you know the article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► kept saying like it's outgrown its roots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► has it like this podcasting really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► to add all this crap to the people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► business grow because podcasting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► we get so so if you talk about like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► much you make per listener / / user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► people call this the CPM the cost per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► thousand impressions well however you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► thanks france by the way for the am so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► I think you're lucky to get I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► what's a good web CPM today like a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► dollars maybe at most I mean with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► podcasting the numbers are lower list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► numbers are lower like you know a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► website it can get millions of hits a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► month the top podcast things like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► american life like really big podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► might get like a million downloads a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► month or something in that ballpark I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► don't have recent numbers on that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► that's what I heard like a year or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► ago someone that you know a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► downloads a month for a podcast will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► you in like the top handle a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► that exists in the world whereas a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► million hits to a web pages is kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► like lower mid-level trafficker these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► days like you can get way more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► if you're big site but the podcast can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► command something like a 22 $60 CPM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► instead of what the web is getting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► you know a dollar or two because pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► it's not even close it is way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► effective and part that's because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► have you know people like us at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► hosts reading the ads and that makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► pay attention more a big part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► you're actually hearing them as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► to the web where you just do not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► and not because bad blockers because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► actually just ignore them podcast answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► so much more effective just because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► the medium because of how its heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► where it's heard who is saying what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► they're saying the relationship people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► have the dedication they have where and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► how they're listening as opposed to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► on the web your kind of like skimming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► constantly and you can get there as fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► a podcast you're probably listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► while doing something else whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► working driving whatever the case you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► less physically engaged in the activity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► so you're less likely i think just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► the ad it's it's just such a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► environment that it just happens to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► way better for ads so for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► this handful of big podcasters allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► met with some people and apple allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► trying to get them to say well we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► we want to basically do like web levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► of data tracking and we want Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► put that in there at because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► we can have we can really have it done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► is to put these things in apps it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► implication there is because they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► their business models to be more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► the web and that just seems insane to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► because the web is in such shambles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► we have it great over here in podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► land they don't know how lucky they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► that the web does these data things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► because it has 24 most sites to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► not because that is the inevitable way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► forward to quote grow your business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► podcasting is not new it is not even i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► would even say it's booming I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► growing steadily the same way it has for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► 10 years and if you look at like podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► growth it's not a hockey stick curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► it's basically a line and everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► everyone who thinks it's new it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► like it's like to tip the iceberg thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► like they were finally put out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► ocean where it's like they think oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► god this is here all of a sudden in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► reality like no it's been growing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► entire time on the oceans didn't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► there that there's basically the debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► over whether podcasting needs to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► in order to enable quote growth or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► mature or something and this what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► angered me so much for this article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► in addition to all the things that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► like factually wrong or misleading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► basically stated as given as fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► podcasting was outgrowing its roots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► needed to change the way it operates to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► I very strongly disagree with that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► not saying the podcasting should never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► change but I am saying i don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► needs to change in this way right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► and possibly ever because this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► differently and the idea that a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► people most of whom come from the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► and ad tech world's think the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► first of all I find that baffling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► because I said the web sucks and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► second of all I i think that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► a bad argument it but it doesn't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► like that you can't make that argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► without support that showing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► somehow podcasting is really suffering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► without this and is declining and needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► this to survive and I see no evidence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► that at all in fact i'm doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► opposite i'm seeing podcasting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► going to the to the apple site like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► can Apple do apple is a directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► they're the biggest directory and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► had this big editorial section where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► they can promote shows which they do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► as far as i know they're the only people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► who who invest a lot of human effort to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► actually make editorial podcast pics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► lots of different categories every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► and around the world i think so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► that you know they're already doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► I don't know what else they could do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► the editorial side I think I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► they're doing they're already doing way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► more than anybody could be expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► do given that they're making a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► money off of podcasting I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► doing a very good job APPL I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► editorially I think they're set we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► should be thankful to do as much as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► as they do and then you have the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► player and this is kind of where it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► the a podcast players the most popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► podcast playing app the one built and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► built into iOS I don't know how itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► does anymore the desktop i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► pretty small probably but but the 1i OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► podcasts from Apple the purple icon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► is the most popular pockets on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► sixty-seven percent of podcast downloads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► according to most people and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► to say the stats we get now are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► enough we want you to do two things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► us we want you to a give us as much data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► as you can about the people so tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► like how many downloads into your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► actually listen to where they listen you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► know where they stopped playing episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► like what exactly what time stamp down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► to the second so we can optimize your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► content and tweak our storytelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► abilities and their advertisers can ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► how many people actually heard our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► entire ads they can then I guess not pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► us like I get a lot of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► don't make sense when you think them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► through that I don't know why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► because we asking for these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► anyway so that's that's part one is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► they want Apple to to add all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► creepy data tracking to their player app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► and then to report it to the podcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► some way and once again I think Jason's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► now on my curly on upgrade this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► week I did a very very good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► covering exactly like what the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► implications of this would be and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► operation this would entail to even do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► this if they wanted to and how useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► the data would actually be considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► that it's not that it like it isn't all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► listeners its depending on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► somewhere between like probably 20 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► seventy percent of listeners so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► representative sample so it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► it the quality of the David they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► get woody wood itself being questioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► even if they got it and in the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► then getting it and the the systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► involved the implementation of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► would be a huge mess not to mention all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► the ethical and quality issues it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► then create the incentives that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► create with podcast creation with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► these pro podcasters to like structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► shows differently so they would boost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► these numbers and in these little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► ways that would kind of sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► quality or overall flow but how it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► give us five percent move this month you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► know because you can say now that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► never happen but look at the web it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► so you know let's not kid ourselves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► would definitely happen so you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► made this massive problematic request of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► the more data then you also have three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► the request of podcasters that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► enable other business models and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► they basically mean is enable away for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► you know there's there's already ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► pay for podcasts lots of podcast do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► know this because overcast doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► support their feeds and I hear from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► their fans everyday but there's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► ways to do things like paid feeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► password-protected or its hidden URL to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► support those thanks Jason idea to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► support please subscribe 26 colors you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► know the password stuff I don't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► and and some a lot of them like that tho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► members only area or or paid podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► that aren't even distributed as podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► files then feed you you like sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► with their website and you can download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► the audio files there are lots of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► to do this the biggest way to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► though Apple made in 2008 called the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► store this is what most people do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► they want to have a paid podcast they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► release their own app to play their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► capabilities that the podcasters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► asking Apple for allegedly that already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► exists its existed for eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► it's called the App Store you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► your app you can charge whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► want for the app you can have in-app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► purchase in the app you can control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► entire player experience and do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► creepy data tracking you want that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► already there many podcasts have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► this is not a new thing and it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► okay i don't know anybody who makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► ton of their of their listenership or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► money that way but they make some it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► so you know what if that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► system you want it already exists and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► take it from a developer i guarantee you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► that whatever Apple would do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► podcast app store with the podcast or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► that that everyone's apparently asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► that would be a worse system than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► you don't want that trust me like either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► way apples taking 30-percent let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► honest here I mean we know that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► taking at least thirty percent either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► way you know at least in the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► it's only thirty percent if you if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► make their own pocket store because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► opportunity to set a new rate might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► hired at Apple's services company so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► believe me you don't want the head that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► you understand why they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► make their own app like it isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► obvious like the fragmentation problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► everyone has their own app like they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► be the advancement of the app store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► the one place you go to get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► software instead of having to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► individual developers website that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► discoverability problems and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► people aware and came to fatigue as kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► of like we have an apple TV that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► that the fatigue of like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► listen to this podcast together this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► priority that podcast that app like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► individual apps back when Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► allowing that you get one book is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► individual app it's just it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► fragmentation and everybody good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► it's really hard to get attention from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► anybody and I can build the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► level playing clear that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► talking about before is an advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► saying like Apple you dissemble met this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► stuff is sort of the baseline within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► only podcast player app that matters the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► built-in appleone as far as these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► are concerned allegedly in this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► article here then we wouldn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► fight for the attention to get our app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► downloaded and it really is a barrier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► people like people don't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► download a new app forever it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► removing your policy is a rather just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► to a store and be able to render by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► movie and you want to go to 17 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► stores and that there are still multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► stores but it was one per pod cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► so I kind of what i'm trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► reading this article is put myself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► theoretical people who talk to apple but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► the headspace of the author of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► article because a lot of things this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► article are not quotes are not and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► not like sentiments attributed to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► who supposedly met with Apple but rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► yeah in what looks like the authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► voice presumably informed by the I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► know by accounts of the meeting and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► trying to let try to figure out like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► is it that the author or the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► the author spoke to believe these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► about podcasting like what is I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► what what what what are we missing visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► you I think you've outlined pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► well-liked from our perspective doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► make any sense but our perspectives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► the only perspective and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► best thing I've come up with is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► you want to if you want to reach a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► bigger audience like podcasts are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► size of they are serial is way bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► than lots of podcasts this american life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► is way bigger but that kind of barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► house because it is built it audience on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► as a podcast right um if you want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► really big with that big audience i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► means I suppose high production values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► across more to make shows that good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► battery know if that's true but like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► trying again i'm trying to get in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► head in there thinking like I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► loosely correlated high production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► values can result in better shows they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► do sometimes do something better shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► but they are they don't always and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► aren't always required right but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► they're going for if you were going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► a much bigger audience part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► advertiser's advertisers who are used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► who would not bother advertising on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► numbers the most podcast put up and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► you want big advertisers big advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► have been conditioned by all the crap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► the web that you just talked about want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► this information that is not available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► from podcast so it's kind of like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► want to go really big we want to go mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► market and by the way when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► mass-market your CPMs go down because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► mass-market like we're gonna make a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► for everybody everybody is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► valuable as people who are SuperDuper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► into model trains because it if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► a podcast that you know for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► are SuperDuper into model trains model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► trains manufacturers will pay a lot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► whereas if you're gonna have our podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► isn't dubai everyone everyone is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► great demo or like our podcast listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► it but you know like you really the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► reason podcast get such icp-ms and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► reason i think a lot of tech podcast get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► self-selecting audience based on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► topic and those audiences can be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► more valuable than the mass audiences so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► anyway if you be want to make podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► way bigger and sell to a mass audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► and your CPM goes down you really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► the tools that will let you get cold to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► put an advertisement on your thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► you know talk to proctor and gamble or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► whatever like these really big things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► that you know by super bowl ads and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► you have huge ad budgets and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► that's kind of the chicken egg thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► they're trying to go it's like podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► is it looks like it also wasted medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► from the perspective of these these that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► people who are going to want to go for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► big audience like I bet many more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► would go for any other thing about radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► you know every kind of mass advertiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► be on the radio because like all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► reaches everybody but the everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► model is so different than the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► podcasting while I think what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► to happen is please make a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► coca-cola will advertise and here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► the ingredients we see that will hook up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► all the pieces in this chain so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► will have a podcast that plays 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► million people and that really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► companies pay for ads or at a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► rate and a tremendously mostly p.m. but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► we'll make it up in volume and now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► are big player and we will just squish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► all the other shows and we'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► cereal look like a little silly NPR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► fluke i don't have enough cereals NPR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► sorry pris see over the holidays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► that and like and that's so outside our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► understanding of podcasts and our little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► text circle and our nerdy podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► stuff like that I don't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► think that that can't and shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► exist but like as a goal I kind of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► it as well as something to that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3076">TS</a>]
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00:51:22 ◼ ► it was most people you know like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► just been compared to other podcast it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3084">TS</a>]
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00:51:28 ◼ ► equivalent of you know Star Wars 1977 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► like the movie that everybody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► generation saw there's no podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► equivalent to that yet and they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► going for it and I think that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► interesting goal and interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► aspire to but the way the things they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► asking for a are informed by the web and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3104">TS</a>]
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00:51:47 ◼ ► and be like the whole what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► asking Apple to do I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► why maybe they haven't been burned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► enough by this but asking Apple to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► building's analytics into your app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► make you know it and subscriptions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► stuff like that and of course there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► so many things that only Apple can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► because their platform level things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► have to do with the app store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► there's only one way to get software on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► your things through the app store again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► focusing on iOS but i'm sure they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► the same pitch to google it google get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► on google play thing going on over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► but were they successful in lobbying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► apple for the things they supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► once they will just let you know that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► their wildest dreams what they will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► successfully done is created youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► which is terrible for just over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► situation where the only reasonable way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► to make money with video on the web is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► through YouTube and YouTube controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► music yeah youtube controls everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► about it and there's no competition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► they can change the terms of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► time what the hell you going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► because it's YouTube like why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► ask me that why would you get you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► tapos credit or whatever or capitals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► apathy or whatever like they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► not going to do any of this stuff but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► they did it would be terrible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► everyone involved both the big guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► because they would just be putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► themselves under the thumb of apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► for the small people who were like no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► don't want that we like to be free and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► open or whatever like so it's a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► doomsday scenario if they got what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► wanted because it would it would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► make it dysfunction all the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► talked about for the web and the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► and the in ever decreasing CPMs in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► Indian the perverse incentives in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► fraud and everything like that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► would be shoveling all the power in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► market to this one gatekeeper just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► because you didn't write one right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► on happen because you couldn't abide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► have simple open system with RSS VHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► suggest it wouldn't didn't give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► analytics you like it's it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► terrible thing to want like and I I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► of see where they're coming from like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► want the big breakout hit and we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► this data and we need these tools but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► feel like you should work that out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► accepting the premise that these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► happen in the article weather said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► but because they didn't end it did but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► you should be talking to coca-cola about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► how they should be ok with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► funding this podcast for celebrities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► that you think millions and millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► people are going to listen to without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► the obsessive data that they think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► should technically be able to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► coca-cola picture back to the olden days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► when people feel that little paper forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► after they watch television shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► advertisement based on that and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► we're going to tell you a precise number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► of downloads and you won't do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► it's just not enough data and you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► to know the exact demos and again where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► they live what their income is and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► things that last click on what the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► tracking them through their facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► clicks for the last it's just I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► it's a somewhat admirable goal to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► make like a podcast breakout hit but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► think the supposedly demands of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► people and in this article are totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► the wrong way to go about it and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► tiny passage that highlighted here is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► finish up like makes me just question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► everything about this is again not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► quote and not attributed to anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► it's a the articles as promotion within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► iTunes which is one of the only reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► ways to build an audience particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► for a new show is decidedly decided by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► small team blah blah promotion within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► itunes is not not only not one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► only reliable ways to build an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► but probably one of the worst ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► build an audience because it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► if you could guarantee the you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► have been promoted as the number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► podcast on itunes for an entire year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► with that build an audience vs say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► you made a podcast that promise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► slowly lay out the plot her star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► episode 8 episode 8 entirely unpromoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► in itunes podcast would crush your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► podcast like it's the only reliable way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► to build and you build an audience by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► making things that people like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► leveraging existing audience is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► the best way to build nice but the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► reliable way like i don't know i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► think of a single person who found their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► favorite podcast because it was promoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► on itunes i'm sure they're out there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► I'm sure that they'll send us things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► like it's just a warped view of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► world of podcast listening like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► not how people discovered cereal people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► did not discover cereal because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► promoted in itunes it was promoted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► itunes because people discovered cereal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► like it's you know like there is a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► for editorial or whatever but if you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► in your head the itunes is already this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► this kingmaker gatekeeper i-i-i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► let your your abdicating all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► audience by having a good show and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► your own marketing and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► editorials important and they do promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► shows and it's important like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► for shows to come out of obscurity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► that Apple can you put them in new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► noteworthy and whatever whatever weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► systems are having and it's a fun little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► thing but really to frame it as the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► reliable way to build an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► particularly for a new show that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► understanding of the podcast world at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► all hot especially when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► mass-market shows because the mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► market is not trolling the itunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► they don't even know what podcasts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► right they only know because they heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► figured out what podcasts are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► that's the problem like by treating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► II know as you very very well said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► you're not only like trying to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► the only platform that matters at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► i'm trying to increase their share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► but you're also kind of investing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► sinking ship because that sixty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► market share that they most likely have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► among listening that goes down every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► believe me I've been watching that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► decreasing over time as more podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► players sprout up on iOS and as more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► people finally get around to living on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► android is where android so far has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► very underrepresented in podcast that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► according to most big hosted by an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► ellipse and used to used to enhance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► numbers every so often used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► something like eight to one in favor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► iOS four like everything show that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► host which is a lot of shows now enjoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► you have people like google play and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► Spotify entering the podcast market in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► possibly big ways mostly have ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► going and I don't like them but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► exist so we'll see how that ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► going but you know you have the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► market being becoming more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► diverse apple's market shares going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► and all the sudden these people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► give Apple a reason to lock things down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► and dominate that's a terrible idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► also like I said just like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► relying on them for your for like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► your audience growth is ridiculous like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► you know and we know from the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► we know like know everyone who relies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► promotion we tell them they're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► wrong we tell them like no you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► even the apps or people will tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► please don't rely on us like and if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► you're trying to get featured by the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► store and you have no other marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► that actually hurts your chances of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► being featured they want to feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► things that have real marketing plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► it's so the idea of trying to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► basically make apple do all your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► for you to put your podcast as you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► John is terrible also getting back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► the ad thing for a second which 10 ties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► into this all everything that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► podcasters are asking Apple to do or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► is basically comes down to we are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► making enough / listener from our ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► and we would like to add this tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► so that we can make more money it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► basically like saying the only way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► us to grow is to extract more out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► existing listener base remember what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► said earlier about the relative size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► the audience between podcasts and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► web a great podcast might get a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► hundred thousand downloads an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► that would put it in like the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► probably five or one percent of podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► if you want to grow your business as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► podcasters the way for growth is to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► more people listening to podcasts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► then to get more people listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► your podcast that's obvious like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► understand how anybody can look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► well we need to grow that to really grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► this we're out we're just growing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► old model here we really need is add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► no you need more people listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► podcasts you know how you do that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► it's not by getting all creepy on people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► and making I'm putting all this stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► it's not by putting up a paywall sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► grow the audience that's how that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► the way for revenue growth possibly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► start doing all this data mining crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► when your ads don't work or when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► have saturated the audience you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► find new ways to extract more of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► we are neither of those things are true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► podcasting has tons of room to grow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► is growing not as a hockey stick level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► you know growth but it is steadily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► growing over time there's tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► potential to grow into especially as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► as we have further penetration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► bluetooth and cell phones and cars which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► is where a lot of listening happens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► we have all these new like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► cheap home speaker bluetooth devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► people to listen more home any of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► getting more and more into the habit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► listening to things on their smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► like there is tons of room for growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► here and there are so many people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► don't listen to podcast now that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► you focus you focus your effort on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► growing the pool your we're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► making great rates on the ads rates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► you know I just like when you expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► like coca-cola all these things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► like oh we have to expand the brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► everything ok so right now we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► mostly direct-response advertiser's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► is things like Squarespace they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► things were like you you you sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► a service or you buy a product and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► discount code or visit a special URL and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► they track how many people bought their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► thing through each show which episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► URL and that kind of gives them an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► of how many people might have heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► ad and how much they are willing to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► for future ads as a result of how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► they're making from their past adds all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► these hot dogs articles about how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► we have to like you know move into brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► advertising they're all like well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► could keep hearing the same ads from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► like Squarespace over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► they're buying them because they work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► whatever they're spending on the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► each other said is a really nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► helped by CPM whatever they're spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► on the ads they're making that back they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► the reason why we have so many direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► response advertisers and why every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► podcast for the most part does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► because they can directly measure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► value they see it and they say we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► brand advertising things like oh we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► gonna focus working plastico can deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► these billboards for the next 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► and hope that increases our margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► slightly brand advertising by definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► is almost impossible to measure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► basically goes unmeasured whenever he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► was basically a shot in the dark here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► people are just hoping that over time by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► getting their logo and their name out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► there and associating happy things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► their brand or whatever people start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► recognizing their brand sales will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► slowly increase as this recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► incredibly sophisticated and creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► levels of tracking and analytics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► behavioral monitoring and surveillance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► that they can see to a much greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► degree what works and what doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► granddad's don't pay that much on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► web because they can see it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► working when you saying you want brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► ads what you're really saying is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► gonna sell brand ads because our eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► don't work so we're gonna sell these to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► you cope because we know you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► really be able to measure well but coke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► also isn't interested in the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► numbers and Squarespace maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► Squarespace but some other advertisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► that are basically are paying to acquire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► subscription plan may not be able to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► advertising is by definition a we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► the big numbers huge shotgun approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► that's the only type of advertising to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► which this sort of general-purpose broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► demographic is actually desirable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► because that's what we're gone for we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► want everybody to know cause we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► care who you are what you do what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► interested in you need to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► they want the big numbers anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► is acquiring customers even something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► like a fracture whatever like it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► think that they that they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► they're not gonna keep the same CPM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► give a hundred bringing people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► bankrupt the company right and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► not interested they don't they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► interested in spraying there I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► they'd be overpaying because only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► small fraction those people actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► interested in signing up would be much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► better to go on a podcast where much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► higher percentage of the people listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► are into digital photography and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► principal whatever you know so I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► advertisers because you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/3886">TS</a>]
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01:12:09 ◼ ► to know something more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► you better hope that's within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► problem and i'm not saying that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► are bad products i think they're amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► we need to keep advancing on some it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► great but I get like i said as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► you have a voice talking to you or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► can understand what you're saying people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► immediately jump to this is how 9000 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► like it it's a little person but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► totally and all the person it's so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► from that that there's always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► inevitable let down so as we continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► march their progress there I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► I think that's good but this this slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► diversion with Eve and river however you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► want to say and all those other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► bothers me as the type of person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► like reads the wire cutter or Marcus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► headphones reviews or markers lightbulb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► reviews or anything like that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► the the very boldly stated business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► model of these companies is will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► deals with other companies so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► say you know have a piece of delivered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► to my house at 5pm and also send flowers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► to my mom for Mother's Day you like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► what an amazing demo it's like having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► personal assistant but you don't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► pick what pizza it is or what company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► sends the flowers the company they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► makes the product that you're talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► and proflowers and that's what gets sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► not because those are the best flowers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► or because your assistant knows the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► flowers to get for your mom or the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► of pieces that you like but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► these are the deals the company whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► voice agent that you're talking to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► you know made partnerships with and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► their incentives are all screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► personal assistant is not to help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► get the things that you want in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► life it's to dutifully follow through on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► the business deals that the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► made and all these companies are looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► for we make this thing so sticky that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► people love talking to it and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► rely on it as part of their life then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► can charge people a lot of money to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► know like the same way that Google in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► everybody typing into our searchbox now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► advertising keywords or search keywords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► for us it's very bad with everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► there's all the pizza ordering then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► can charge whatever pizza company a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► of mind as I did you one of the pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► Steve Pizza comedy films pizza request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► but you know obviously people like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► and I think a lot of people kind of care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► where their pizza comes from maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► don't care so much about where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► flowers come from but that the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► that that they should be presenting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► here is artificially intelligent agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► nineties apple thing that knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► navigator can help your life it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► supposed to be helping me it's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► to be like I wanted to do things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► you know if it's going to save me work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► would go and figure out what's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► dishwasher is and what the comparative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► features are and stuff like that or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► know i would if i move into a new area I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► would you know troll reviews to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► find out where two people like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► that the best pizzeria you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► ratings are like I wanted to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► what my needs are and follow through on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► that but I don't know if there's money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► to be made in that because we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► willing to pay for that service so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► someone's gotta pay and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► are paying his dominoes and you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► get a stupid domino's pizza so you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► what you deserve you right and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► it's it's misaligned incentives but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► don't know the way out of it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► align incentives would be you pay me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► five dollars a month for the privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► of using a series of even know who wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► to do that either because they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► good enough for five dollars a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► it's like now I'll just do the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► search myself well just go to the wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► cutter myself right so I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► you get you find your way out of this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► it could be that most people are fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► with that they're like I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► want to know or care what deals you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► behind the scenes as long as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► comes to pick up pick up my package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► I don't care what they ship it by or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► anything like just they don't they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► not as picky the not reading reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► about your lightbulbs right there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► it's just convenient for me to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► to do this and I don't really care what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► company or product is involved and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► don't care what deals are made behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► the scenes and I don't care that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► needs aren't the most primary thing is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► service like a free it's built into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► phone or yelled into the air and Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► echo does it I don't care that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► products are filled through amazon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► you know like it's like pushing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► you know you get the pic was a mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► has a wide right but I don't care they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► all come from amazon maybe those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► are fine with that but for me personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► I don't like it and i also think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► the misaligned incentives will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► become a larger and larger problem until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► unless these services we can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► become so good that people are willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► to pay for them because once you pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► five dollars a month to have a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► assistant you could just shout orders to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► and we do stuff and was not actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► person you didn't have to like care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► about their feelings and well-being or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► anything like that's the dream of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► assistant for every movie about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► future regions yell things into the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► and things get done and what you love an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► assistant learned more about you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► what you like and what you dislike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► collaborated with other agents and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► know just sort of asked your reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► the meal you're just eating and instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► of you having to put a star right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► that's the magical future we think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► it I think everyone's going to pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4618">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► that because paying for an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► personal systems and do all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► is really expensive five dollars a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► looks like a bargain but we're not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► yet the process just aren't that good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► in the meantime dominoes will be paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► them to deliver you execrable piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► your house I love that like you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► your dream scenario here is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► that you can basically have a virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► person who is totally basically your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► slave and you can be a jerk to it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► actually a person just a computer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► you don't be a jerk to but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► don't have to like worry about like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► know they don't don't sleep don't eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► don't get annoyed when you're frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► don't get in order to yell but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► that's why we use computers because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► don't have to have this constant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► we're not but we're not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► emotionally support our computers most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► we just want them to do what we tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► them to do when we do it is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► machines and they're not people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► and that's the dream of having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► computers you know just think it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► as a personal assistant but rather think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► of it as like the using using a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► without having to sit in front of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► touchscreen or type things in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► talking to the air and then somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► else the computer is doing your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► and and the whole machine learning angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► like the same way a personal assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► everything that's what computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► great lots of netflix is greater by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► seeing what we watch and we have to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► with a silly way of hitting stars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► stuff but eventually netflix it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► to think i think you will like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► movie based on movies you've seen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► past and have like it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► primitive compared to what we could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► if we had a conversational long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► voice-controlled thing that was on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► side and was entirely made to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► make our lives better but again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► there's no there's no business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► that the textile isn't quite there but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► feel like i can get there eventually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► someone is going to get five dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► month from hell of a lot of people when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► well but it doesn't have to be that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► five dollars a month I mean it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► that this future Syria or what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4733">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► facilitates a sale for so but that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► distance it hasn't sent revised to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► deals with the put the highest bidder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► heartbeats a problem for perhaps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► first of all domino's pizza is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► crappy second of all my god it's so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► what are you talking about her job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► yeah I'm with John sorry Casey that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► that's all you'll excuse us oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► you're way too snooty anyway the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► is that II why couldn't we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► hypothetical conversation where I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► sure where would you like it from papa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► national chain so I'm not it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► to happen but then how do you get paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► how does that service get paid you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► it's just taking a cut of that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► they were really kind of like Grandpop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► or whatever like they have to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► opt-in the money's gotta come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► somewhere because unless you want to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► extra for that pizza and like have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► you know series surcharge of experts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► group of so freaking expensive like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► lots of services that kind of do a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► portion of what we would imagine beaver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► incentive is this is great if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► money to burn and you can't be bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► to go someplace and you don't want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► food being cold by the time it gets here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► you don't mind waiting a long time after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► time doesn't work like this there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► many caveat but the the money is a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► deterrent five dollars a month for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► blanket service of essentially just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► connecting the dots the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► financially if you have enough people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► it as does dominoes being the exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► will bring you a crappy pizza provider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► but I feel like the percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► everything is just back to the group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► model and its yeah that's that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► proven to be good for you know in my day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► we'd set ups but like be good for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► who with high paying jobs and not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► of time and and and more money my money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► is less important to them than their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► time and so they do that and even those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► things you kind of like yeah sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► that just it's more worth of you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► there yourself another thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► know everyone needs try to would any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► us would anyone order pizza in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► even if you would like to help if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► could tell the store that but it charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► you twenty percent on top of that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► you order pizza that way I mean it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► in a position where I didn't want to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► down at a computer or an ipad and iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► and I just wanted to within 30 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► say hey see get me over i forgot i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► say that I'm sorry wants to it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► fit huh yeah what was that upgrade a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► thank you i want to say aloha a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► finally get me outta here get me a pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► a large pepperoni no pineapple pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► from dominos delivered to my house your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► bad taste continues like you're in favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► I all have not tried every and pineapple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► yet but i do like pineapple and ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► I and I don't get that a lot of New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► Yorkers don't really do it here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► it's not canonical John but but i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► enjoy that combo when I can get it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► yeah I normally I mean I like pepperoni [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► and pineapple so you know there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► ham and pineapple discussion but i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► sure if it's on a podcast that has yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► to be released did you hear me talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► about Hawaiian pizza on a podcast if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► i haven't been released so I don't spoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► it I did hear you talk about it i forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► yeah same here it might even when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► get an upgraded you do that recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► right yeah maybe that was it but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► uh yeah I don't wanna get into it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► the point is the point is the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► casey has terrible taste in pizza so his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► answer to this question is irrelevant or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► whatever if you see you Marco and john / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► you switch the hamburgers if you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► know because then I'm gonna tell you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► think Wendy's is just fine then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► gotta bust my balls about that too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► whatever like this have a barbecue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► oh it would you get from dallas BBQ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► oh really well barbeques barbeque I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► just nostalgia barbecues fine but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► all these things like this you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► the money is going to become taking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► cut somebody's gotta come from somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► so it's got to be a surcharge right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► because I unless you is you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► deals if you're going to take a cut like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► the price remains the same but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► caught us in you have to have that deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► for that if you don't then you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► to add a surcharge because then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► don't need deals on either end but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► surcharges usually pretty significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► and that's in addition to whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► additional things that charging you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► deliver it plus tip and all that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► stuff that's the thing exactly though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► because the delivery surcharge is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► surcharge you could if you wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► in your car or ride your bike or walk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► what have you and go fetch your pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► magically showing up at your doorstep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► I personally cannot imagine a time where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► i would want to say hey uh why telephone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► get me a Domino's large pizza but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► are certainly people in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► may be willing to pay a dollar or two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► whatever the case may be to alway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► I mean they're dominoes let you order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► pizza with emoji by some mechanism never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► tried so I would imagine that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► people that are doing that 20 wonder why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► dominance has to make it so easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► you don't find anything you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► believe dominoes as gross that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► all i know is what you know just listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► to the forthcoming episode of analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► discussion about people that are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► good for chain restaurants and how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► I hate all of them which is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► everyone in the chat room and the two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► you there are good chain restaurants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► there just are very few good chain pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► restaurants and i think most would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► local chains that you wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► heard of but it's fine that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► also if you're going to have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► sure dominoes even the best one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► I was always a bigger fan of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► really crappy ones like little caesars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► or bus to hunt because like because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► if you're gonna go with some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► you might as well go like super crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► and get like all the junk food value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► it i feel like i would get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► frozen from the supermarket before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► would take delivery from any change yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► i did i did a lot of those to make a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► of like that and those are not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► don't get me wrong they're terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► that's how bad i think the delivery is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► it would take a red baron pizza / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► dominoes not not red baron but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► what is the thing it's not delivery its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► DiGiorno when that marketing werks night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► I don't know what kind of be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► matchup like even and anyway like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► should've got into the pit stop and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► why it was so moving on your imagine no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► I can't get past this i can't imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► world where somebody says man I'd really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► like some pizza and I'd like to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► dominos and he in you have to be like mm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► dominoes is not good enough for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► somewhere else well you know sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► you have these things you don't like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► i think its arm even if this is more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► an issue of me even when Marco sings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► market like he has his fancy coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► right but when he's on the road will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► starbucks yeah precisely when I'm on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► road i will I would be the equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► me is I would choose not to have coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► sometimes i do like that's the level on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► that with it same thing with pizza bagel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► I just don't get a pizza if I can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► good pizza and it's fine i eat something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► else and if someone else gets bad we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► don't eat it you know you got to eat to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► stay alive right it'sit's not but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► never choose it like it whereas Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► because he's addicted will choose to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► our weapons because it's like well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► better than no coffee but no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► better than no pizza no pizza beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► Domino's Pizza my God if I listeners if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► I ever get to the point that I'm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► fussy about freaking anything it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► it's not funny it's just like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► a preference like i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► consider it the same category of food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► it's like i'll just pick a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► plenty of kind of foods to choose from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► like I'm not that picky about burgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► right I'll many more options for burgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► including ones from chains and lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► things from change but when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► pizza i will just pick a different food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► product that i don't think it's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► bob is just kind of like that i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► don't like that doesn't taste good to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► i don't want it and I don't need it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► chemical reason so i will just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► something else like a I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► sandwich from subway then bad pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► I don't know what that sandwich from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► subway are are probably the bottom rung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► of things that you can call sandwich but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► we watched as people know the chat room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► sponsorship for losing the subway / and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► sponsorship from the show that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► why we can't have brand advertisers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► podcasts before he pissed off all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► brain will take Waffle House sponsorship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► so because they embrace what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► it was more of a steak and shake person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► myself over waffle house I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► understand why subway so bad you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► watching the created in front of you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► don't understand why subway as bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► please can you stop please don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► I'm I'm trying I'm trying to trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► help you here do not know i just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► your players not until you want to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► on just now finally I'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► it's the hill wanna die I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► your help i want to be able to go to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► genuinely happy with the meal I've had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► have gone to subway although not lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► and been genuinely happy with me off hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► are there better sandwiches in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► absofreakinlutely does that count as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► restaurant the show please I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► been this angry you too since the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► pro discussions we could just if i ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► get this policy and high maintenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► just kicked me in the shins what vodka [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► would you drink AZ would you drink that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► they hit the big handle of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► cheap Russian whatever vodka that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► in the plastic bottle would you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► that they just going to run through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► they had that job for you didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► you're privy to this because this stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► stupid secret of vodka is that did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► know that whatever i saw that i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► know i don't think i don't think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► the boards i saw that thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► filters like all right everyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► filled with vodka is just I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► those BS III don't exactly you're free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► to but I thought that was BS maybe it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► BS i might be wrong i'm entirely willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► all of the first few drinks anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► can just like secretly switched the crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► yourself at home Care's well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► convenient here's the thing like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► absolutely choose a fussy vodka like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► Tito's if I had the choice but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► don't have the choice or if I'm or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► a rail broadcast on happy hour you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► you do is put a couple lemons in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► wait a second for to get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► watered down with a little bit of lemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► in it and then you are fine i prefer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► titos for sure but I am perfectly happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► with a slightly watered down slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► lemony vodka and I am and I'd be happier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► about that having saved a bunch of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► off getting a real one instead of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► Tito's I i would be happy with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► although you that is the best example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► heard so far me being fussy wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► ruin like a $13 profilter by converting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► your cheaper market into $13 more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► expensive vodka and a snowman you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► come out ahead of you run it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► enough times that so its equivalent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► the five-hundred-dollar bottle is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► five more vodka is like it's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► i'm sure there is i'm absolutely sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► there is other absolutely and i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► also note that my fussy vodka Tito's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► like the cheapest of the fussy vodkas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► which is part of the reason why I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► remember when when you when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► coming over and we bought a bottle so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► that you would not you know judge our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► vaca collection so judge of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► no I remember being very surprised how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► expensive was because the way you talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► about it I thought it would be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► really premium priced one but no turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► out vodka just terrible nobody president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► very high it's not terrible you gin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► drinker you are didn't gin drinker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► aren't you know how's your grass tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► like I i occasionally drink in i had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► by itself and I i prefer gin-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► drinks like martinis to drinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► straight but oh god a gin martini i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► forgot i I'm not that much of a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► person I I much prefer either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► drinking or drinking beer i'll see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► to drink your bread i understand i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► gonna get so much angry email i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► have to quit the show it's gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► worst i don't know i tried to help me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► with the subway think it's not too late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► no this is meaning you can let it stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► at right try to get this back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► real slightly i will say John you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► you were seemingly puzzled by the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► of why would somebody pay like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► 20-percent premium for the convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► of ordering through this through like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► boys not why but that your audience is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► limited because i know those services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► exist i know the people who use them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► they're never gonna be mass market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► because twenty percent is just too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► I'll tell you what though I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► probably pay roughly that premium to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► avoid talking to somebody on the phone i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► hear ya again yeah i know i understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► like that's theirs if that was my only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► alternative like because like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► places around here that you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► you know in in the area that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► John both of us live in there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► lot of changes present and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► independently-owned places and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► anything that relies on like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► really convenient like or you can order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► with our app or things like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► most of the places around here don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► support that because they dared not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► big enough operation to be integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► that way to have their own app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► whatever else which means a i can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► Apple pay anywhere i can use my chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► card anywhere even you know in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► places heat her and be the you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► don't support like it any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► automated ways of ordering so if i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► to order something i'm still doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► the way the San Francisco people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► is like barbaric of like calling them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► delivery or going to going to pick up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► car and I hate talking on the phone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► much especially too nerdy introverts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► with with disposable income again it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► potential for agents that can do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► conversationally without you having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► type things or really pay attention just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► yelling commands out into the air the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► potential for that is mass market but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► the number of people who are currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► willing to pay to avoid phone calls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► stuff like and and don't blink at twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► like I and I throw these things with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► that's another thing against these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► things that are funded by having deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► with providers of their services is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► exactly the people who are the nerdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► introverted people who don't make phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► calls those are exactly the people read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► the wire cutter and obsess over which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► light bulbs are going to get and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► people will not be happy not being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► to choose who provides the flowers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► even who gives them their weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► reported like those are exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► people who want the the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► going to use big data to figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► is and learn your preferences and do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► that stuff they don't want to be hemmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► into you know particular vendors and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► I maybe was just hoping to be purchased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► by Apple or Google or alphabet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► whatever and that's their biggest plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► there but I i I'm not a fan of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► model where the product isn't good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► enough for users to pay for it yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► the way they make their money is with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► back in deals and you have this agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► who you can't do you have this personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► assistant who can do a limited number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► things hopefully if you get the syntax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► right and you have no control of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► awareness over the companies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► filling the things he seemingly no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► to get feedback about how well it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► when the pizza right did you like it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► did you not like you can just get me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► pizza but not for that last place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► was gross so going back to the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► topic here these voice assistant things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► my I think there's a lot more to discuss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► here we're gonna have time for today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► honestly there's a lot more discuss here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► about just how these things are and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► the kind of us runs first of all I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► it would be a hilarious business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► if the series founders just kept making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► things selling them to apple and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► just quitting and making the next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► people do that all the time that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► serial entrepreneur thing you make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► start-up you you know exactly what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► make you know you that you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► multiple potential buyers you play them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► off each other you sell you do the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► one and what you get to do i guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► is during all that time do the fun part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► of that you like starting the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► doing the exciting thing or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► you just have to exit after exit that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► that's the way some people live their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► lives totally viable business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► especially in this day so I it i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► think you know getting back as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► wouldn't be episode of the show without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► a completed but Apple we almost made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► I know I'm a little bit worried that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► this is an area where like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► Apple started this game really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► Apple came out with Siri in 2011 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► Apple started this whole thing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► like you know they were there was voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► command stuff before that but Syria was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► integrated with the phone and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► it was it was a big deal and then since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► Cirie has advanced but fairly slowly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► in fairly small steps while the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► multiple companies there's amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► there's how hounds are other amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► there's all these companies now coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► out with even better stuff it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► giant seem like a generation ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► Siri in in like the the intelligence the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► recognition and the accuracy and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► like that it seems like Apple kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► started this and now everyone's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► over running them and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► apple is like hustling I I've used I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► used this this work before that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► seemed like apple recently lacks hustle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► this is the only area this applies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► wear like Apple can start something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► everyone else kind of rushes and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► apple just kind of can't keep up is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► a problem well that i would call hustle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► in this case like you remember when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► jobs.can the the atg Apple technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► group for advanced technology group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► everybody G stands for someone someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► who works at up all through it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► anyway like Apple used to do way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► basic research type stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► whole department whose job was to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► like basic research type things and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► theory maybe we'll come up with a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► ideas that other groups in the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► that made actual products would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► Steve Jobs concentrated the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► pie-in-the-sky wouldn't it be cool if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► technology that family breakfast or used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► to work at Apple for crying out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► right and jobs like no we want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► great products that ship now and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► done that and that's a very successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► yeah the helpful k see listings in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► chatroom what we want to make actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► when my actual products because it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► doesn't do anybody good to have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► research ideas and maybe one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► shows up many years later but things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► like Siri that's the only real way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► advance that is with some amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► basic research I feel like Apple found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► company that was doing this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► whatever the esri company overcome be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► Cirie came from that already had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► productized it and then is working the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► improvements to Syria talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► lot of them have to do with productize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► improvements make it more reliable make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► it faster building on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► platform but the basic research needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► I don't know if that is budgeted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► accounted for dealt with within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► realm of Syria that product like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► there they feel like they're advancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► the product and meanwhile the founders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► had left was like I don't want to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► incremental advances product or make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► more reliable fast like that's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► problem not interested in that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► interested in how do you make the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► grade personal assistant or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► the fact that they felt like they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► I mean maybe it's you know maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► there misinform really there was a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► in grappling do that basic research and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► it should have been part of the plan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► whatever but the apple today is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► less focused on basic research stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► and they do like the things they do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► all that research in touch screens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► stuff like that that's not the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► basic research it's more like free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► production product things like ideas for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► future concrete products and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► think this is a great strategy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► gives you great products instead of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► great concept videos don't really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► anything it's been the cornerstone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► Apple success so you can't really fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► him for that but I think it's also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► reason that Google who just tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► crazy ideas and basic research stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► in-house that just never goes anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► which we criticize them for and startups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► who their whole point is like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► have a great idea let's see it and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► of them died you know care but if i end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► up being successful as we said before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► about just buy them again that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► is actually have a viable strategy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► if they can't or don't want to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► that type of advancement in house allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► wait for all the crappy ones to die find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► the ones that are left and buy them at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► the right time because one thing Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► does have is a lot of money so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► Apple vibes live and the next version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► series powered by that and who could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► uncomfortable during this time now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► we see like you know seemingly everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► else can do serie better than apple can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► and apples just barely working on can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► make existing serie reliable and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► little bit smarter and expand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► capabilities and by the way still no api [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► so no real ecosystem or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► that I think is uncomfortable but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► don't think it's insurmountable because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► you just throw money at whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► most people think the problem is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► Google is the one who does that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► Syria better than Syria which arguably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► they already have this google is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► going to sell you their stuff so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► a problem for Apple but the vivre is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► a problem for Apple it's a it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► I'm going with vibe now that's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► yeah but I'm never going to get that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► that leaves two I don't even now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► alright thanks 143 sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► fracture freshbooks and back plays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► mean to begin because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► it was accidental John research Margo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► DP die and if twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► so Instagram change their icon everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► lost their I don't like the icon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► much but I don't think it's the total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► dumpster fire that everyone else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► pretty bad it's pretty bad its remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► one web two point was the thing you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► remember web 2.0 yeah gradients and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► yeah the web 2.0 parody sites that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► like make fun of all the design tropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► point out the Instagram icon looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► a modern version of making fun of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► flat design tropes I could see that give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► you if you tried to do a parody iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► like imagine the Instagram icon adopted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► all of the current fashion trends in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► most obvious and glaring ways you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► get that stupid thing but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► it's that bad i mean it's not as bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► yeah I like it it's fine whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► especially look at their alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► designs and boring some of those where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► like the design that was like a a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► square with a white circle in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► of it like just now let's workshop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► a little bit more at least this one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► something to it will stand out a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► bit on people screens because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► just a flat color like has so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6116">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► people said on Twitter and as I've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► about windows XP and bumper sounds in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► the end it doesn't matter that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► because long-term eventually you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► come to associate with whatever the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► associate that with instagram and kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► who are just getting the first iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► now don't know what the old icon looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► like we'll be fine with it and order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► screws in but it is not the type of i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► think that that explains why it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► disaster but I think you can also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► an icon that the initial impression is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► that it's a nice well-designed pleasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► associated with the application that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► know and love like you don't have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► that as if it's an either/or well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► can have an icon that is immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► attracted but it will be crap long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► now will also be good long-term so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► opportunity to make a better icon and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► don't particularly like it but it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► fine it's not it's not disastrous like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► was the disastrous one like when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► tried to do that tropicana orange juice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► and a backpedal not you always know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► disaster if they change their minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► come back into shows from now and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► they change the icon back but i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► feeling the wall because it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► the other changes they've made recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► or more offensive that like the icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► like they replaced one crap icon with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► another crap icon like the old icon was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► crap to it was just our family crap that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► was that had a really good branding like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► it was it was it looked great in ios6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► right and i stayed a long time but at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► certain point when you're the last one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► standing I think you could become sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► of an act of defiance or like a quark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► and you know the only one only one icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► gets to do that you can have a home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► screen that has like six icons it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► looks like I OSX but if only one does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► sure go with that but yeah it didn't to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► be updated and they had a difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► actually like I like the like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► that it doesn't look like the essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► item on the toolbar is constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► selected like this like that stupid blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► yeah I completely agree i really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► like the the new look of the app and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► think you and I are mostly on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► page about the icon like I don't love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► but I don't think it's bad I i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► didn't think the last one was bad yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► looked outdated but I I completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► concur that the branding was great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► think i would have preferred just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► flattened or perhaps simplified simplify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► that about a simplified version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► old icon but i would have been pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► timid though if they did that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► like I go you did the obvious thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► just made a flat shaded version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► camera and I i think that would be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► difficult i think that actually less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► successful than this because I yeah your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► brother may be immediately kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► inoffensive you won't have gone anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► this is at least is you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► can tell they made a change it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► like it's a subtle tweak nope big change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► definitely stands out which presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► is the goal right it's not another damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► blue icon you know it's it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► that is a color palette that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► different than anything else i have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► my home screen and of course that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► not be true for everyone but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► certainly the case on my phone I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► jumps out at me on my home screen it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► on my very very first home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► because that's how much i love this damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► so I i think the icons ok i'm sure all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► come to think it's decent over time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► completely agree i love the muted look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► of the app itself so that damn near all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► Instagram I really really like it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► would pay money to get rid of the ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► though the ads on my Instagram feed are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► just oppressive like I don't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► maybe I don't follow enough people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► it seems like every fifth thing is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► giant and I I'm seeing are rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► scrolling pass without looking way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► many freaking add the Instagram like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► please i will give you i guess i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► give them a dollar a month maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► I'm so just continue to scroll past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► edge but i know some people like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► don't see any ads in my feeding I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► know what Albert my trip to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► spam me with that like crazy but too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► many too many ads yeah I mean for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► while I had no ads and it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► then a few months ago I started getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► a very heavy add like we are describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► and it really almost rude instagram for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► me and I didn't go back for a while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► guess my engagement dropped and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► recently I just kind of stopped seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► ads like they did like flip back off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► me but the other day about two days ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► algorithmic timeline and you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► they could put any icon they wanted into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► the ugliest graphical theme they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► just give me my stupid chronological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► timeline back because the algorithmic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► I mean I I'm just not used to it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► appreciate it and I've never used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► anything else with an argument timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► I I don't read facebook ok i technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► have an account there but I literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► have never used it to read its newsfeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► I've never done that I don't use like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► YouTube subscriptions or things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► that to like browse youtube I don't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► whatever twitter is doing with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► everything I don't I don't whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► maybe just drop into it but i don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► I've never seen it so I the only this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► the first time I've ever actually seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► an auger timeline and something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► previously didn't have fun and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► any sense like I'm seeing pictures out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► I have no idea when I've like seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► everything I I'm seeing things that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► that don't make sense that make me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► that I've reached completion but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► haven't I see right below it like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► here's one that I saw 12 hours ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► right below is one from eight minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► ago and that you've gotta be kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► for all these years I've been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► Instagram that mentioned this before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► what i do is i launched instagram app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► and it shows me whatever picture I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► doing last time briefly he had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► refresh is for right and then I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► memorized in that brief moment memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► with images and then scroll backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► like it to it kept saying I'm basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► doing my own my own tweet marker don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► get used to that because that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► chronologically and I don't want to miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► any it's slightly confused by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► that i see a lot of the cross posted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► Twitter sometimes I think I've seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► one already must have gone too far but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► no that's why i gotta memorize the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► that play however i got i know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► what you're saying if they ever if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► ever fix the absolute doesn't flash the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► last images on the screen right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► regression the timeline would totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► algorithmic one I don't know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► would do maybe just stop using Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► honestly that's what I'm considering it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► because it's that bad like so I'm here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► read my mind now i have four hours ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► three hours ago four hours four hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► five hours 10 hours one day eight hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► to days 10 hours one day like it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► shuffled like I'll see things even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► you know so you might be able to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► you know like I noticed that it puts my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► wife up top so I usually like her photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► it even shows her photos out of order it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► is so disruptive and their see I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► find any option anywhere to to flip back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► i think this is just something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► there presumably doing to either boost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► some engagement thing that they measured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► once on facebook or they want to they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► want a new revenue stream of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► charging the brands that you follow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► appear higher up in your stream or both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► you know it's charging charging brands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► to make more people see the things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► have 20 million followers but will show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► your thing to 10 of them unless you pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► yeah it's like you earn those followers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► everything this person post and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► gonna charge you for access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► audience that you earned yeah that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► facebook model and facebook instagram so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► that's probably with us for and man it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► sucks as a user I feel so bad now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► literally the entire rest of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► who actually uses facebook who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6598">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► trying to make sense of that news feed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► remember when they made that change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► newsfeed a few years back remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► everybody was all upset and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► really understand why but now I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► because it it completely changes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► nature of the service and it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► breaks it for me like i really i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► don't like this and i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► going to reduce my usage of Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► substantially I think instead maybe i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► wrong about this but Instagram seems not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► uniquely vulnerable but more vulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► than usual to if they screw things up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► someone saying alright well just make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► Instagram to work like it used to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► imagine one that actually kept track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► where you were in the timeline and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► a straight ahead i believe it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► sweet but I know but it is the social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► graph so embedded because i can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► that facebook says because too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► features too many users it's too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► instagram has a lot of users but not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► lot of features and it's still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► an island unto itself like they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► really totally integrated with facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► at this point so if it if Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► really does screw things up and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► maybe there's a generation people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6658">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► all they're stuck on Instagram but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► look at snapchat comes out of nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► you can grab new users with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► product that people find compelling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► Instagram breaks everybody's workflows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► there is a market opportunity for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► someone to do a very straightforward iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► app that shows you the pictures your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► friends took in order and has a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► asymmetrical following process like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► Twitter and has likes and comments like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► it's not technologically unfeasible all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► this requires facebook to anger enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► people to make a viable market for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► other small competitor even if it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► like a company is never going to be his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► biggest facebook is never gonna are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► never too big as Instagram never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► to usurp Instagram but merely become an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► successful app.net for Instagram hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► dammit you feel great away from me i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► nevermind joke i mean it's a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► could possibly happen like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► inconceivable that can be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► depending on how badly in serum screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► it up and how many people's work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► actually doesn't drop for all we know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► guess people chattering if you follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► tons of people on algorithmic timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► is indistinguishable from a non out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► where that one because you never keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► track of anything anyway you just launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► the app and you scroll until you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► satisfied or something i do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► scroll backwards like launch the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► that gives it to the top of the timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► and they scroll the other way i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► anything until they get until they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► yep that help people use it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► only way you really could use it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► alright here's the way I was using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► yeah memorize the picture Scroll scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► Scroll scroll a little game Scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► scroll found it now go through them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► see I misunderstood i actually do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► you just described by misunderstood your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► region I and when it loads i see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► picture like it i see the picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► like I don't know like a Mike Maddux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► took pictures of cows in a field and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► that blinks on screen for a second and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► then it loads 50 other pictures that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► scroll down to find the cow picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► then I see the cal picture and then move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► yeah but now I know passing really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► all come on what you have to do is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► have to pay an assistant five dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► month to scroll for you haha SI deve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► take me to take hey we do the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► that I last saw which again when i first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► played with instagram like me don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► understand how that works is it broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► to people how to regular people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► Instagram because every time i wanted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► wanted to show me the last picture I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► the same overtime logical for twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► app on it showed me last week a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► frustrating i think the way regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► people do it if they care enough at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► is is what you just described what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► and it sounds like Marco does which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► ok memorize what I just saw and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► start at the top in canada we did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► exactly i'm too old to keep that an inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► short term memory for that long I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► couple of seconds before it leaves my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► head entirely Scroll scroll to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► well the problem is I with the cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► post also screwed me up too because on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► it then I convince myself that the 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► just saw like that that I'd seen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► Twitter previously was the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► flash when i open the app and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► that's not right that's why I got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► yeah try my technique it's a it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► only have to remember to a very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► period of time and you can really forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► don't close the instagram app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6837">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► because you're relaunch it if it get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► purged out of memory then you'll be back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► to the top again I never noticed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► absolutely right i never thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► it that way that's why I'm all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► three people on Instagram that I'm able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► to maintain this workflow just giving my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► regular timeline back for God's sake i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► gonna get so many emails we definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► yeah i think that you will find you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► there are some kin of the subway defend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► are somewhat someone's already wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► just me of course saying that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► crazy and that it's okay to like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► that other people don't like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► too scared to see them at all those huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► oh yeah subways the words oh yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► you know sbarro pizza that's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► some arbys is better than subway yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► mmm is it I idea i don't think its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► equivalent it is absolutely one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► better it is better it is a better food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► product on a good food product but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► better i think there is something i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► could order at subway that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6898">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► rather have then anything is a bar would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► serve now because here's the thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► so far they have dough sauce cheese they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► assemble them and make them hot that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► not good sauce is not good that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► not good how we set any different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► subway subway has something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► think is bread but is actually some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► of mold that grows into a bread shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► like this little mutant like read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► fetuses that there have been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► conservatives and chemicals on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► right and the cold cuts are I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► what they are but like they're just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► I have a frozen are they are they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► they're just they're not they don't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► like our tastes like what cold cuts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► supposed to be like we know what coach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► was supposed to be you go to the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► you slice them you get that like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► these sort of I don't know what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► with them they just they just look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► taste like preservatives and coming this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► little units that they just they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► there's not religious not right but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► ingredient quality at sbarro's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► well but as a that's what I'm saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► feel like their cheese is more like real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► just like there's nothing to go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► like this little quote there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► coolant like salami like salami the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► difficult product to get right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► no tomorrow the subway salami is I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► know what the hell it is like same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► with the cheese simply just the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► preassembled like here's the ingredients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► for this type of sandwich slapped on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► their it like it and get the bread and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► the cold was such a big part of it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► you say okay well maybe the tomatoes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► a lot of the fine maybe maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► tomatoes and legs are fine equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► whatever the sbarros using but tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► has no equivalent even the pepperoni I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► feel like pepperonis the type of product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► where you're not you know there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► sort of gold standard for pepperonis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► lots of variability and it's all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► crappy and one way or the other but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► you know that sauce dough and cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► I feel like is a higher quality is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► these are honest products not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► tasting product is tomorrow but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► honestly there whereas at subway they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► taking a sandwich and screwing up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► bread and the cold cut parts of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► then I'm like I'm out that's it what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► was left i'm not going to go there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► the tomatoes and the lettuce it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► is incredibly vile this is cognitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► triangles on the GL that she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► tessellation minutes yeah that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► just a silly problem assembly problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► but elbow cheese shouldn't really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► triangle-shaped really I mean it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► be squares or circles right we know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► has triangle cheese it's just like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► they even bothering to cutting that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► think it starts out of the square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:15 ◼ ► I know and they cut into triangles why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7035">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► so they can screw up the tessellation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► anger people and it's making sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► I don't understand II you're just waving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► your hands in the air and said like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► just don't care and saying oh sbarros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► great ingredients but subway they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► be great and not a great green that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► there more straightforward and honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► like no one's going to say that pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► dough isn't pizza dough worries i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► they're ready since that whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► it's like eating how you don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► fresh every yummy bacon fresh from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► from what from terrible like mushroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► mold spore bread filled with Sbarro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► doesn't get shipped the same bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► probably from the same damn bigger ego [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► is no it's not it's it pizza dough is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► more straightforward to like like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► the problem is it there are so many good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► places where you can get sample i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► understand anything you want a sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► with cold cuts on it it's not a high bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► there's a billion delis in new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► state that can give you a sandwich with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► cold cuts on that is so much better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► subway that you shouldn't just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► pretend that store doesn't even exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► anymore like you can go to whole foods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► better sandwich like you can go to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► supermarket and have them assemble you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► sandwich with cold cuts on it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► better than someone you can go to panera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► also way better than that like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► think of anything worse than subway it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► is there any place that will sell you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► worse sandwich from subway this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► I can't think of one like a bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► letter board here for it when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► wrapped in saran wrap those sandwiches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► that's what i'm getting at like at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► have real bread on even actually even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► like when arbys added sandwiches to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► sandwiches and that's from arbys yes I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► saying like it and then again those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:49 ◼ ► probably little hamburger buns like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7129">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► actually actually got like bread and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► like they started stocking all I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► bread and cold cuts and stuff and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► started making that way is the subway is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► I feel like the bottom rung of any chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► food in in the world like it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► in the world I can't think of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► worse who you talk to brian just pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► out what is worse at which I assume he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► said he said the plastic triangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► sandwiches i assume he's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► the ones you getting gas stations that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► what i was saying I was saying at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► air plastic triangle sandwiches at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► airport are better than subway they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:18 ◼ ► probably give you know you know in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7158">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► job because they have made with real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► bread there and you know your weight are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► you sure no ingredients are gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► gross but most of the grossest because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► they've been there for a long time which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► is also why your food poisoning which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► why you shouldn't eat them but based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► like you know what what are they made up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► their made of bread there and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► ingredients in them they're made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► pathogens that sometimes the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► sandwiches are bad because they're made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► with ingredients don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► preservatives and everybody just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:45 ◼ ► there and they get all gross like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7185">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► it'sit's like any airplane food like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► ingredients but if you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► this precooked chicken and tomatoes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► you let them sit there and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► this or even better with preservatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► because this is just SAT there too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7195">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► gone through too many pressure changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7197">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► the tasteless mess you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:02 ◼ ► infuriating about doing the show with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7202">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► you John is that you are just completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► and utterly wrong completely wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► I could concede that subway is not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► food i'm not arguing that your name or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► sandwich name or Sam hold on hold on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► hold on this the airport sandwiches are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► unequivocally worse but the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► because everyone on the internet things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► you can never say anything that's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► now we're gonna get a thousand emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► with people saying oh jon is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► round in terms of trying to help your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► ok ok let's again let's let's concede [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► for the sake of discussion at subway is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► the worst let's just assume even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► it's not let's assume it is i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:40 ◼ ► understand why you think sbarro is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7240">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► better or different and pizza dough is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► the same kind of dough that shift from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► some factory when West bumble screw into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► their into the local sbarro that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► subway dough is and I in every day at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► subway they cook the dough you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► they make the friggin dough at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► sbarro rip the crust officer borrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► thing that that crust has more bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► like qualities than anybody ever to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:07 ◼ ► I don't know quite crispy reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7267">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► because it cooked at high temperature it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► is more chewy and gluttony it is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► more like bread not particularly good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► tasting bread but much more like bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► then that stuff and so when I are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► to opposite sbarros and subways like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► again I'm not trying to say it's subways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:27 ◼ ► is the definition of good food i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7287">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► saying that but once i just i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► keep reconcile my head that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► that Sbarro is leaps and bounds better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► than subway because they are to my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► of effectively the same quality i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► both better with your leaps and bounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► that's better but it's better like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► wanted it because degree of difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► it's got so few ingredients and none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► them are weird mutant versions of legit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► great pizza has so many more ingredients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► you're saying it's easier to make good p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► to the good sandwich right easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► ingredients like the open holes are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► serious problem like any kind of cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► cuts are like it it's very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► do there's a high degree of difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► there it's not simple like oh sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:12 ◼ ► really hard and oven cold cuts are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7332">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► process product that is complicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► make that that is a lot of variety what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► the the things that are similar between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► roast beef and turkey and salami like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► there's a huge range of expertise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► you need to make any of those that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► exactly but they're not making them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:28 ◼ ► each location they're buying that night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7348">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► I know but there but they're buying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► from is like the lowest bidder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► they're so incredibly vile that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► should not even be called salami or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► their hammer the turkey is everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► again something like Canaries with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► similar challenges their italian combo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:44 ◼ ► panera is not a good italian sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7364">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► the coat are not good and yet still way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► better than the ones that it had subway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► everything you're saying about subway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► how does that not apply to sbarro thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► mozzarella cheese is very it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► screw up it's a very simple cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► doesn't need to be aged it's inexpensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► and most of it tastes like morals like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► mozzarella cheese it's not a complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► product like salami or slicing ham or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► roast beef and like this module is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► straightforward so is the dough is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► straightforward it's not a complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:13 ◼ ► though it's not a sourdough is not some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7393">TS</a>]
02:03:15 ◼ ► special thing you do it's like perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7395">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► one of the most straightforward those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► and tomatoes also very easy tomatoes can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:21 ◼ ► whoa whoa whoa slow down not if how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7401">TS</a>]
02:03:24 ◼ ► do you spend making sauce when you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7404">TS</a>]
02:03:27 ◼ ► your own source it's pasta sauces not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7407">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► pizza sauce Casey please don't tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► you're putting pizza sauce on your on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► it's the same thing with a regular it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► right i mean it's really not that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► ingredients that are harder to screw up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► that have a lower degree of difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► to make something that qualifies as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:43 ◼ ► food obviously it's not good but it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7423">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► is honest straightforward and it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:48 ◼ ► food whereas cold cuts and bread are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► don't think Brad is that difficult some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► simple someway somehow manages to screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► it up but coconuts definitely are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7433">TS</a>]
02:03:55 ◼ ► difficult and I would just rather not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7435">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► have cold cuts and have coconuts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7438">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► band and not have bread rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► reconcile you saying that it's harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► screw up a cold-cut like a slice of ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► harder to make yes yes how can you screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► up a slice of an animal easier than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► particles not it's not just a slice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► an animal like that's the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► you have to it you know they put tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► open everything on those things to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:24 ◼ ► to make them be shelf-stable for longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7464">TS</a>]
02:04:26 ◼ ► periods of time they're generally pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7466">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► perishable and you kind of did you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► right have to chip the big giant hug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► that you slice on demand but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► way in hell somebody's gonna do that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► just I can't reconcile this like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► I've left behind while you have you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► had go cold cuts and maybe this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► absolutely I i if i could if i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:45 ◼ ► live off of Boar's Head white American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7485">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► cheese I would and this is where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:49 ◼ ► start bitching at me about how american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7489">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► everything white american jesus would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► you go for Jesus actually one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► easier ones because again cheese is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7496">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► inherently has a little more shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7497">TS</a>]
02:05:00 ◼ ► stable than something I mean salami is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7500">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► pretty good but like something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► sliced turkey or roast beef that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► that's got a pretty low shelf life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► Jesus is going to be much more sturdy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► a fast food type of environment coconuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► not much around always trying to do mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► market with with cold cuts and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► forced to to make this unholy alliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► with chemicals preservatives and craft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:24 ◼ ► products that it isn't it also true of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7524">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► like every fast-food place that has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:28 ◼ ► burgers and stuff that's all that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7528">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► all the same challenges yeah and burgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► like the burgers has had the advantages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► that ground beef frozen ground beef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:37 ◼ ► you know reheated like there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7537">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► fat that gets you buy and those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► where it's just like yes it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► to Grady meet its frozen but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► lot of fat involved and there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► not that much meat in the grand scheme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► of things slightly a bunch of stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:49 ◼ ► and basically to say it's like salty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7549">TS</a>]
02:05:50 ◼ ► squishy fat up more difficult to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7550">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► bad salami because that's la made it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► me has a very distinctive taste it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7556">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► strong taste and if it's bad it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7557">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► bad but you know but it's the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► the same thing with burgers to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► degree and that is why you can tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:05 ◼ ► difference between shake shack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7565">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► burger that came to the store frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► right like it's not that big returns but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► you can tell you're so wrong John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► alright so we also jared is a really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► person so you should well there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► so you basically saying that mcdonalds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► is better than subway because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► mcalister's kind of its own thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► would eat mcdonalds before I eat subway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► i would suddenly performing dollars only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► for health reasons because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► McDonald's is it has fewer healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:32 ◼ ► choices whereas even subway will taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7592">TS</a>]
02:06:35 ◼ ► less saturated fat and hopefully less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7595">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► calories depending on the mcdonalds is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► also so incredibly strictly like manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► and regulated and down two down to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► many sciences and also they probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► more throughput customer wise so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► think the risk more but then sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:55 ◼ ► consistent as as a mcdonald I don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7615">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► to mcdonalds at all well but like from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7617">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► from like a pure like you know fear of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:01 ◼ ► foodborne illnesses maybe perspective i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7621">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► think i think that was probably a safer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7624">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► bet and things are hotter they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► especially good odds I I don't I i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:10 ◼ ► tell you that i have eaten subway much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7630">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► more recently than I being McDonald's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► but it's mostly it's not for taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:15 ◼ ► regions because someone else wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7635">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► someone must remain nameless and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:20 ◼ ► believe it when I want burgers we go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7640">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► five guys r shake shack these days or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:25 ◼ ► and out in an hour in California all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7645">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► donated five guys five guys eat you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► I bet it's delicious a dynamic dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► fat it is beautiful i know but it tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► better than mcdonalds I have to agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:37 ◼ ► with Casey I i haven't had mcdonalds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7657">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► i think a few years and but i I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► five guys recently and I don't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:47 ◼ ► honestly I really don't get the villa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7667">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► five guys like I it's it's not bad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► it's just it's just like greasy fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:52 ◼ ► food burger there's nothing special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7672">TS</a>]
02:07:54 ◼ ► about I I don't think it's any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7674">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► than like a wendy's or an arby's oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► it's way better than one is arbys maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7678">TS</a>]
02:07:59 ◼ ► I think it was it's a higher class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7679">TS</a>]
02:08:01 ◼ ► food than those in those places that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7681">TS</a>]
02:08:05 ◼ ► it that way I described five guys it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► more like a burger that you would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► yourself in your house with ingredients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► that you bought yourself an expert chef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► is not gonna be a great burger but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► McDonald's Burger King or even in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► out where you totally tell like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► fast-food burger five guys taste more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► like a mediocre regular burger if I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► a meeting I had five guys and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:27 ◼ ► as long as Marcos had mcdonalds but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7707">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► 25 guys i think they call it a mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► bacon cheeseburger whatever the smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► bacon cheeseburger don't don't don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► bacon at five guys that's my tip don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:37 ◼ ► get bacon you may think you wanted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7717">TS</a>]
02:08:39 ◼ ► don't get it the taste better without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7719">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► the bacon has been hiding about that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► have not gotten their bacon before and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► still think it's bad it will hold on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► but the point I'm trying to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:49 ◼ ► cheeseburger whether or not baking is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7729">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► good call five guys invited many bacon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7731">TS</a>]
02:08:53 ◼ ► cheeseburger and some of their fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7733">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► an hour later I feel like a beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► freaking whale I can eat a equivalently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7737">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► sized burger at McDonalds or wendys or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:03 ◼ ► what have you and still be a functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7743">TS</a>]
02:09:07 ◼ ► whereas five guys not so much that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7747">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► a digestive issue you have I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► i don't i don't typically have to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:14 ◼ ► call me feel better in and out i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7754">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► that it is very good i think that if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► really honest it is overrated by east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:23 ◼ ► coasters because we don't get it ever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7763">TS</a>]
02:09:25 ◼ ► it's a very good burger but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7765">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► think it's that much Bert better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:28 ◼ ► any other equivalent chain i would lump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7768">TS</a>]
02:09:31 ◼ ► in and out as in the same family as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7771">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► McDonald's Burger King but better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:34 ◼ ► both of them but I would not put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7774">TS</a>]
02:09:36 ◼ ► something that's favorite a curry shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7776">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► shack or even five guys because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► more of a fast-food style burger like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:42 ◼ ► everything about the bun the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7782">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► burgers repaired everything about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:45 ◼ ► a fast-food style burger and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7785">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► higher-quality fast food style burger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:48 ◼ ► but it is not the non fast food style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7788">TS</a>]
02:09:52 ◼ ► burgers includes five guys and Shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7792">TS</a>]
02:09:53 ◼ ► Shack because it's a different style i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7793">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► get it you know everything about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:56 ◼ ► size the proportion of me to the bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7796">TS</a>]
02:09:58 ◼ ► what's the bond has made that of how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7798">TS</a>]
02:10:00 ◼ ► burgers repaired with the burgers ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7800">TS</a>]
02:10:01 ◼ ► been frozen before whole nine yards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7801">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► me I I honestly object to lumping five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► guys and Shake Shack together i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:09 ◼ ► five guys is way closer to the big fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7809">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► food chains than it is to shake shack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:14 ◼ ► it's closer to wendys because Wendy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7814">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► little bit different than putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► thousands burger king in and out if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:20 ◼ ► like so like as you going to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7820">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► with you go to wendys then go to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:24 ◼ ► guys and I agree with kind of separating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7824">TS</a>]
02:10:27 ◼ ► obviously not as good as that or not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7827">TS</a>]
02:10:29 ◼ ► weird as different checks and like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7829">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► potato bun and everything it's got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:32 ◼ ► sorts of weird stuff going on that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7832">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► not involved in in the five guys burger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► straightforward i think a lot of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► colored by the fries which are all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:41 ◼ ► the freakin map among all these ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7841">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► if you had to categorize them just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:44 ◼ ► the fries I don't know what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7844">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► because the fried variability I found to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► be huge and in yea even individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:51 ◼ ► locations aware and McDonald's every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7851">TS</a>]
02:10:54 ◼ ► place like I mean it just locations like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7854">TS</a>]
02:10:56 ◼ ► this shake shack has good fries with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7856">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► that shake his bad for us has that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:01 ◼ ► I mean there's more consistency as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7861">TS</a>]
02:11:02 ◼ ► get to mcdonalds and burger king but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7862">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► was going to say ok now and I was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:06 ◼ ► not impressed with five guys fries to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7866">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► honest I mean get some some people love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:10 ◼ ► them some people don't know I got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7870">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► same five guys different times sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:13 ◼ ► the fries are good sometimes not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7873">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► no consistency now really the if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► chick-fil-a waffle fries or get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► I don't say anything you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:23 ◼ ► footwall thighs aside I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7883">TS</a>]
02:11:24 ◼ ► can put them into the fryer we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7884">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► talking about step that's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► hashbrowns that Paul comma but yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► prize is a different thing they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:32 ◼ ► i'm not saying Walter is great but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7892">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► can't break can't bring a waffle fry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► a regular fry fight that's not what its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► gonna be toe you have the weirdest rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:43 ◼ ► I mean like home fries are also kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7903">TS</a>]
02:11:45 ◼ ► potatoes yeah exactly why not been clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7905">TS</a>]
02:11:48 ◼ ► from verizon hashbrowns like why not put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7908">TS</a>]
02:11:50 ◼ ► the waffle house in their hashbrowns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7910">TS</a>]
02:11:51 ◼ ► oh my god it's not a hash brownie venir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7911">TS</a>]
02:11:54 ◼ ► a hashbrown yeah well so crazy right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7914">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► I just want steak and shake tried making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7917">TS</a>]
02:11:59 ◼ ► a steak and shake frisco melt last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7919">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► it was it i actually didn't get that far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:04 ◼ ► off it the hardest part about it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7924">TS</a>]
02:12:06 ◼ ► didn't achieve properly is this is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7926">TS</a>]
02:12:08 ◼ ► stake and shake frisco mounts have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7928">TS</a>]
02:12:10 ◼ ► very thin burgers and I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7930">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► hey I tried and it wasn't even close it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:17 ◼ ► falls apart now I've never been to steak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7937">TS</a>]
02:12:19 ◼ ► and shake them either her target good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7939">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► things about it i would imagine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► probably have to freeze the patties to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:27 ◼ ► yeah now all thats that's the secret to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7947">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► once they come they come frozen ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:32 ◼ ► hockey box and you put them on the grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7952">TS</a>]
02:12:33 ◼ ► and they cook really fast because fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7953">TS</a>]
02:12:34 ◼ ► food to cook things really fast okay if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7954">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► that's like to call it minutes take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► their steak that with the holes pounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► Wow speaking of i had white castle when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:47 ◼ ► i was at bachelor party in Vegas few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7967">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► so that's the bottom of the wrong room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:51 ◼ ► of hamburger speaking of it was uh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7971">TS</a>]
02:12:55 ◼ ► inebriated so it hit the spot at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7975">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► time drunk vegas white castle know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7978">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► sounds happen this sounds like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► the same way the same reason people find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:07 ◼ ► themselves a taco bell so were you drunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7987">TS</a>]
02:13:09 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah I don't talk about talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7989">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► about great i'm not kidding either i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► love talking about again bottom bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:14 ◼ ► rock bottom of the ladder of for Mexico [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7994">TS</a>]
02:13:18 ◼ ► train talk about we all agree that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/7998">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► yeah i think generally speaking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:22 ◼ ► later you're fast food places open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8002">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► worst from the words of food and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► that's fair to but I love me some talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:28 ◼ ► about actually they're up there morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8008">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► crunchwrap the breakfast contract very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:32 ◼ ► believe it or not Wow which has brown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8012">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► it as it turns out of course that is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:37 ◼ ► wouldn't it is undecided i live at where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8017">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► they're adding the making it ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► that menu item for Taco Bell put in tote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:45 ◼ ► bag that was also remember that ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8025">TS</a>]
02:13:47 ◼ ► nope nope you look at pic i like this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► Pete Jackson on Twitter Casey has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► had a good sub couldn't be more obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8035">TS</a>]
02:13:56 ◼ ► that was 13 minutes ago four minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8036">TS</a>]
02:14:00 ◼ ► ok listen to little further revised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8040">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► lusus hold on revised theses Casey has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:04 ◼ ► never had a good meal of any kind i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8044">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► don't want to say it but some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► think that right who's that who's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:13 ◼ ► who's the chain food hound it's not UK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8053">TS</a>]
02:14:16 ◼ ► see that someone else is better is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8056">TS</a>]
02:14:17 ◼ ► Lex who's really into like going to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8057">TS</a>]
02:14:20 ◼ ► know like Applebee's and TGI fridays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8060">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► i'll see it curiously enough i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► particularly care for those like a leech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► nobody does the terrible but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:28 ◼ ► somebody in our circle like is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8068">TS</a>]
02:14:30 ◼ ► them like yeah or or it you don't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8070">TS</a>]
02:14:33 ◼ ► about like that again the bottom rung of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8073">TS</a>]
02:14:37 ◼ ► mid-priced chain restaurant for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8077">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► yeah everything is really bad for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:44 ◼ ► yeah and they have weird things weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8084">TS</a>]
02:14:47 ◼ ► meals that appeal it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8087">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► everybody the true meaning of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► with his terrible restaurants that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8092">TS</a>]
02:14:54 ◼ ► mean obviously I there's a lot like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8094">TS</a>]
02:14:56 ◼ ► lot of those big chain restaurant I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8096">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► because like like it in the times in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:01 ◼ ► life that I lived in places that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8101">TS</a>]
02:15:03 ◼ ► them I couldn't afford to go there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8103">TS</a>]
02:15:05 ◼ ► that one that was like with a bee or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8105">TS</a>]
02:15:07 ◼ ► bennigans Bennigan's there you go I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8107">TS</a>]
02:15:10 ◼ ► you should go to ponderosa sometimes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8110">TS</a>]
02:15:11 ◼ ► like special occasions like like growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8111">TS</a>]
02:15:15 ◼ ► ponderosa i would put into several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8115">TS</a>]
02:15:17 ◼ ► categories out back but i would put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8117">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► separate karaoke from TGI Fridays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:20 ◼ ► applebees Bennigan's as many install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8120">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► around so cmf I went to college in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:25 ◼ ► pennsylvania that is true with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8125">TS</a>]
02:15:26 ◼ ► college however in the middle of nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8126">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► Pennsylvania's the middle of nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► yeah we're basically it didn't I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:34 ◼ ► college in meadville Pennsylvania where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8134">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► the only restaurant in town there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► ponderosa I think we never went there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:43 ◼ ► the only restaurant anybody ever go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8143">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► was just a perkins and so I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► perkins a lot before that in ohio into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► denny's a lot which is basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:52 ◼ ► awesome at it's something it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8152">TS</a>]
02:15:55 ◼ ► than waffle house so days is what then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8155">TS</a>]
02:15:57 ◼ ► is awesome place so good I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8157">TS</a>]
02:16:00 ◼ ► disagree strongly on that I'm but best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8160">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► pancakes in the world i hop time I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:08 ◼ ► that was in case it's not clear that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8168">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► an attempt to ridicule Casey's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:14 ◼ ► low-level taste i love and shot ologist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8174">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► in the chat saying Danny's is a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:20 ◼ ► you wind up what is perfect that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8180">TS</a>]
02:16:24 ◼ ► well I get it open very late like ihop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8184">TS</a>]
02:16:26 ◼ ► open also but then again that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8186">TS</a>]
02:16:28 ◼ ► went to perkins in colleges within 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8188">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► hours that so that interesting story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► TIFF and I our first date was we drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:35 ◼ ► 40 minutes to erie pennsylvania the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8195">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► nearest big town we drove 40 minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► get there to go to the olive garden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:43 ◼ ► oh hell yeah huh it's amazing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8203">TS</a>]
02:16:46 ◼ ► amazing this relationship lasted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8206">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► was our nice restaurant for our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► date again i would say but bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► bottom of the of the ladder for italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8213">TS</a>]
02:16:56 ◼ ► restaurants we all degrees name a worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8216">TS</a>]
02:16:58 ◼ ► Italian food restaurants in the garden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8218">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► it's impossible Sbarro's obviously no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► tomorrow's had a better time for me all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► garden hands down no no true that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► true not all through the olive garden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► breadsticks are the only other bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:12 ◼ ► item that i can think of it as similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8232">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► basically it's basically a hot dog bun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:19 ◼ ► yes and it's wonderful that's not bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8239">TS</a>]
02:17:22 ◼ ► that is not as a brace wreck it is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8242">TS</a>]
02:17:26 ◼ ► they it as as I once said on my blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8246">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► garden is the gold standard for bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:31 ◼ ► Italian food like they intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8251">TS</a>]
02:17:33 ◼ ► over cook the pasta so they can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8253">TS</a>]
02:17:35 ◼ ► governed by the senior citizens through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8255">TS</a>]
02:17:38 ◼ ► sensibilities of Middle America this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8258">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► not like a made-up thing this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:41 ◼ ► they do as corporate policy it is don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8261">TS</a>]
02:17:44 ◼ ► know just no please please all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8264">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► garden Isles I don't understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:49 ◼ ► people like you so I really love of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8269">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► mentioned so far I think I'd rather eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► at olive garden than almost any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8275">TS</a>]
02:17:57 ◼ ► omn Oh Margo was what's happening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8277">TS</a>]
02:18:00 ◼ ► your in New York have some real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8280">TS</a>]
02:18:02 ◼ ► food please stop going down if that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8282">TS</a>]
02:18:04 ◼ ► option sure but like if my alternatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8284">TS</a>]
02:18:07 ◼ ► are like subway in sbarro like I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8287">TS</a>]
02:18:10 ◼ ► amen brother no just weird i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8290">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► choose a bar overall gotten any day not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:14 ◼ ► because i was so powerful because i hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8294">TS</a>]
02:18:17 ◼ ► yes uh-huh that's because its coordinate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8297">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► all garden particularly when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► telling I don't see all I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:23 ◼ ► about I didn't all gonna existed until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8303">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► like much later in life long after long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:27 ◼ ► island because I wasn't around to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8307">TS</a>]
02:18:28 ◼ ► there wasn't all garden there I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8308">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► know they existed certainly never went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:32 ◼ ► to one right when i went to like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8312">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► like only like all garden it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:36 ◼ ► chain restaurant I expected it to be not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8316">TS</a>]
02:18:40 ◼ ► probably bad but I was not prepared for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8320">TS</a>]
02:18:42 ◼ ► exactly how bad was knighted internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8322">TS</a>]
02:18:44 ◼ ► research is why how can this be so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8324">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► intentionally making food to appeal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► the taste of people who don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:52 ◼ ► Italian food that's basically what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8332">TS</a>]
02:18:54 ◼ ► oh ok well you clearly have never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8334">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► I'm not have never end up as always I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8337">TS</a>]
02:18:59 ◼ ► don't even know what that is it's fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8339">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► fast food italian there's there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:02 ◼ ► place that's like a italian racial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8342">TS</a>]
02:19:05 ◼ ► stereotype since it's like assaulting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8345">TS</a>]
02:19:07 ◼ ► insulting to Italians it's the bookid a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8347">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► yep yes that that is more insulting than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:14 ◼ ► I'll go yeah that is that is pretty bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8354">TS</a>]
02:19:16 ◼ ► i will give you that well as a time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8356">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► another restaurant I feel insulted my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► heritage feels insulted you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:21 ◼ ► yeah yeah but it is a disaster but yea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8361">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► to go back a step I met Aaron at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:26 ◼ ► applebees and you could argue our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8366">TS</a>]
02:19:29 ◼ ► state which we didn't think was a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8369">TS</a>]
02:19:31 ◼ ► at the time but in retrospect was our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8371">TS</a>]
02:19:32 ◼ ► first date was at night op and here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8372">TS</a>]
02:19:35 ◼ ► are almost double dead a decade after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8375">TS</a>]
02:19:37 ◼ ► that first state in almost a decade in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8377">TS</a>]
02:19:39 ◼ ► America and Marcus are around garden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8379">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► pepsi that's what you need in each food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:43 ◼ ► that's how you build a good relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoEZTU/8383">TS</a>]