The Incomparable

260: High Five


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  number 260 just 2015 welcome to the [TS]

  uncomfortable episode 260 recording i'm [TS]

  your host Jason smell i am sitting [TS]

  around a table with a big d greatest [TS]

  live in comfortable podcast crew ever [TS]

  assembled [TS]

  you're going to make previous life I [TS]

  heard those shows that should be said [TS]

  let me let me introduce to you will move [TS]

  around clockwise around the table and my [TS]

  things and start start with the start [TS]

  with Dan Morgan hi Dan [TS]

  hi Jason it's a pleasure to be in the [TS]

  same place with all well most of you [TS]

  mostly I'm looking at USD it's a [TS]

  pleasure with me and not with everybody [TS]

  else that's exactly what I'm gonna get [TS]

  it makes perfect sense [TS]

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  Freeman call you my dear I'm Lex [TS]

  Friedman let's do that is uncannily like [TS]

  students this is steve lets hello Steve [TS]

  hello there Jason well technically this [TS]

  is the fifth anniversary of the podcast [TS]

  for some I don't think it really got [TS]

  started until about midnight October [TS]

  that was when it really [TS]

  started because I see around episode 9i [TS]

  think it's not however some people [TS]

  that's a marked decline in quality and [TS]

  sure but but really what happens the the [TS]

  later episodes echo the early episodes [TS]

  and it all makes and models there's a [TS]

  whole ring theory yeah you're down [TS]

  interesting and Erica inside sounds over [TS]

  G thinks that this didn't really pick up [TS]

  for about a hundred and fifty episodes [TS]

  yeah yeah I think that's where i got [TS]

  exciting for me because foreigners so [TS]

  this this is that we're recording this [TS]

  for some reason and soon as we figure [TS]

  out what it is you guys when i hears [TS]

  title is I won't let us leave this room [TS]

  until they don't mind I literally cannot [TS]

  get out right now we have explained it I [TS]

  won't explain that this is a by the way [TS]

  for those who have listened to the deep [TS]

  cuts in the deep catalog [TS]

  yes this is one of those Stephen privacy [TS]

  so stop listening that [TS]

  yeah you have been warned you have been [TS]

  where this is a episodes being released [TS]

  on if anniversary of the uncomfortable [TS]

  five years to the day the day to the day [TS]

  wow I know we've been doing this for [TS]

  five years Jason what the hell's gonna [TS]

  happen [TS]

  we've been sitting in this room if I [TS]

  understand it's just us only a different [TS]

  after four years and nine months I was [TS]

  children [TS]

  yeah but who's counting see what was the [TS]

  topic of that episode Steve I believe [TS]

  that it was a horror get the bone saw [TS]

  that was the horror movie I data set [TS]

  that was a sparsely populated episode [TS]

  has some of your panelists our voices [TS]

  yeah yeah [TS]

  many of them was that back in the day [TS]

  where we covered like entire genre and [TS]

  111 was over I think that's about the [TS]

  one and only or at the center everybody [TS]

  else do I can take it pretty much [TS]

  covered everything is given what [TS]

  happened to do although i'm thinking we [TS]

  need to do a spooky old movie club [TS]

  yeah i mean for halloween yeah that [TS]

  would be great that'd be great or or did [TS]

  do we can we do rocket surgery are there [TS]

  because those need to be more shot my [TS]

  load seems like we could really write to [TS]

  the forefront I said it's a mad rocket [TS]

  surgeon who kills but we do what we do [TS]

  with the old movie spooky old movie club [TS]

  i'm thinking well it would have to be [TS]

  stuff that's a fairly bloodless for [TS]

  you're gutless panelist we could maybe [TS]

  God with everyone's makeup your mind you [TS]

  could maybe do the g-rated the haunting [TS]

  for starters generated topper and then [TS]

  since we posted this is New York just [TS]

  starting for the first luxury brands got [TS]

  the ghost of mr. chicken now downloads [TS]

  he's there you go [TS]

  he is scared frightening that is a [TS]

  christmas carol that's pretty spooky [TS]

  right let me throw some really good we [TS]

  could do the changeling I think we [TS]

  talked about that and episodio that's [TS]

  how much can you get there you go you [TS]

  have the original one [TS]

  oh yeah I was myself give me a little [TS]

  credit i mean we were covered Evil Dead [TS]

  know yet we haven't covered you're there [TS]

  to yet sorry that's not evil did [TS]

  high-fidelity ok friends but the new cat [TS]

  people would be around we've got a [TS]

  high-fidelity yeah there you go [TS]

  no we haven't well keep siracusa Farley [TS]

  that's a good point to solve where you [TS]

  can have a whole separate podcast where [TS]

  Syracuse's ruins the eighties for you [TS]

  I think we decided that when we wrap up [TS]

  after this episode since this is our [TS]

  last episode it's just these gentlemen i [TS]

  replaced by the big greatest hits of [TS]

  John syracuse the next but you keep it [TS]

  keep on going I I it's funny that you [TS]

  bring up the horror episode because that [TS]

  was definitely one of those where I i [TS]

  had no conception first I had no [TS]

  conception that this we keep going like [TS]

  this because what were the chances of [TS]

  that extremely small one hundred percent [TS]

  as it turns as experience our guys when [TS]

  I have overestimated [TS]

  the amount of free time that people have [TS]

  on their hands yeah wewe didn't study [TS]

  has detention a podcast intervention [TS]

  later hug just asking why you're [TS]

  listening to this but that we're going [TS]

  to why we're gonna save that I just I i [TS]

  look back at those at least stop [TS]

  listening so we can stop to do [TS]

  everything started to cry for it's like [TS]

  I just want to get them online is good [TS]

  until subscription levels dropped over [TS]

  5,000 I got today it's almost lunchtime [TS]

  for itunes reviews at the 500 mark we [TS]

  can quick then peel em the the innocence [TS]

  of those early days when when like you [TS]

  said we could just let's talk about [TS]

  horror movies for 45 minutes is also [TS]

  back then the podcast was strictly [TS]

  limited to an hour and would never be [TS]

  any longer than an hour i do remember [TS]

  you have been talking about this [TS]

  it's insane to go longer than an hour [TS]

  why would you do it no one would say no [TS]

  need [TS]

  yes now our average episodes an [TS]

  hour-and-a-half much wiser and Saturn [TS]

  about the world yeah talking slowly but [TS]

  I had somebody is somebody has rolled [TS]

  asked me if we were ever gonna do [TS]

  episodes about like buffy the vampire [TS]

  slayer or we're gonna fly got that done [TS]

  we did a John sweden at the same time [TS]

  where we're going at three in 55 minutes [TS]

  we covered all seven seasons of buffy [TS]

  and five seasons of 845 whatever it is [TS]

  an angel in my right eye and all of [TS]

  firefly and doghouse and i would call in [TS]

  55 may be used to be so much more [TS]

  efficient you know what happened here so [TS]

  concise now it wasn't simply the problem [TS]

  music listeners they determine oh yeah I [TS]

  wanted the deep debt problem is you get [TS]

  smaller than theirs because it's just an [TS]

  entire hour and a half of blaming the [TS]

  listen I i like i like how concise it [TS]

  was just you know Buffy awesome next you [TS]

  know that was very simple everybody like [TS]

  this [TS]

  well that wraps up this episode of all [TS]

  yeah i don't i don't know what we were [TS]

  thinking quite honestly we haven't found [TS]

  our groove yet our format we just turns [TS]

  out it's deep deep group apparently is a [TS]

  very deep groove he is a escape is a [TS]

  chasm that we cannot climb out of with [TS]

  smooth smooth walls and well one of the [TS]

  things i think we'll it like goddamn i [TS]

  were talking earlier before the for the [TS]

  podcast that's good podcasting [TS]

  references [TS]

  nobody heard you can hear that a [TS]

  downloadable extra later i'm just [TS]

  pretend [TS]

  yeah just be another writes the [TS]

  unrecorded to distract you didn't use [TS]

  air about fandom and about i think one [TS]

  of the things that we've been good at is [TS]

  that is we bring we bring enthusiasm for [TS]

  our subject matter without it being kind [TS]

  of this gets us in trouble sometimes [TS]

  with some fans who we if we bring [TS]

  enthusiasm without necessarily being a [TS]

  we're not uncritical even though we're [TS]

  enthusiastic and I you know I think [TS]

  that's our I think that's our thing [TS]

  right is is we we we are inclined to [TS]

  like stuff and we want to be excited [TS]

  about stuff but at the same time we [TS]

  don't turn off the the critical faculty [TS]

  and say you know my god it's great [TS]

  because first off I don't really know [TS]

  how how long with that podcast run like [TS]

  10 minutes yet only the high five years [TS]

  Jason it's called high five everybody [TS]

  says it's awesome then it's done and [TS]

  that actually wasn't that your focus on [TS]

  the uncomfortable network [TS]

  I don't have your lose you you heard it [TS]

  here first folks [TS]

  yeah i know i think that's it that's [TS]

  it's true that we're not careful I don't [TS]

  think we let our criticisms diminish our [TS]

  enjoyment of it either i think it's the [TS]

  other part of it right like we don't get [TS]

  so wrapped up in with the few exceptions [TS]

  and say the stupidest prequel episodes [TS]

  we don't usually spend so much time when [TS]

  passing something I mean granted coming [TS]

  in [TS]

  nobody really like building that's mr. [TS]

  Lee was prequel episodes and I think [TS]

  it's because it's infrequent that we [TS]

  have ya eviscerate something yeah i [TS]

  would want to do that every week now I [TS]

  would but I can't even imagine [TS]

  especially the Star Wars prequels every [TS]

  week to start packing that we share will [TS]

  do a minute at a time [TS]

  yeah take 600 years ago this part [TS]

  clearly references an earlier and 0 baby [TS]

  terrible terrible and here we see the [TS]

  influence of Metropolis his thought [TS]

  process [TS]

  hey hello make make love to the mics [TS]

  Mike dynamics are not my strength [TS]

  this is why I wear a headset what is [TS]

  your strength I'm starting to find here [TS]

  is the years of an episode [TS]

  high five yeah [TS]

  this is where this is where the gloves [TS]

  come off people bad i think my strengths [TS]

  arise from my dashing good looks [TS]

  Thank You Glenn flash yeah time to go [TS]

  second and also my great love for Jose [TS]

  Feliciano I i was gonna say don't touch [TS]

  the bear with the stick you where you [TS]

  away from me where do you see yourself [TS]

  in five years [TS]

  this is a dollar value is around town [TS]

  not gonna lie i guess nobody celebrating [TS]

  the 50th anniversary of his new podcast [TS]

  where he just talks about things that [TS]

  are terrible and it's just called 15 of [TS]

  icons are connected with jason said we [TS]

  did we did with the rocket surgery thing [TS]

  that was that was a calculated attempt [TS]

  for us to be negative about something [TS]

  like loading number right for some of us [TS]

  can still find enthusiasm it's a [TS]

  goddamned articles and then Glenn like [TS]

  Zardoz highlights are does yeah i still [TS]

  like sardines and go back and watch it [TS]

  again the second Zardoz episode was very [TS]

  different [TS]

  we haven't yet got 25 years from now [TS]

  where we say can you believe we only did [TS]

  one episode about our news our dollars [TS]

  focus podcast really popular that's [TS]

  right stone had the podcast she's like [TS]

  the idea of a alternate universe where [TS]

  is over Zardoz like took on Star Wars [TS]

  levels proportions and just became an [TS]

  enormous franchise I you believe it the [TS]

  rebooting Zardoz again I'm really [TS]

  disappointed in this our dogs prequel [TS]

  with a to fill the stop me from going to [TS]

  see the new Zardoz well it explains the [TS]

  science behind what made the stone head [TS]

  that was not you needed that unnecessary [TS]

  the science of pharmaceuticals somebody [TS]

  on twitter posted the picture of the [TS]

  Tsar's novelization which was I was very [TS]

  impressed by impressed is not the word I [TS]

  would use [TS]

  I I would almost want to read it just to [TS]

  see what the novel held and obviously [TS]

  can't stand up and walk out [TS]

  yeah and then is that wasn't a problem [TS]

  mirrors and then he fell out of the hot [TS]

  and he talked to Cristal it was reaching [TS]

  for it [TS]

  it's a picture book and then they want [TS]

  the fastball actually said sees its head [TS]

  he said shoot his head wasn't a lot of [TS]

  discussion about start us [TS]

  yeah well you know the classics you [TS]

  gonna get into give will never escape [TS]

  no it will never win that Erica I hope [TS]

  you aren't offended when we make fun of [TS]

  the Star Wars prequels since you run on [TS]

  the record is defending episode 1 now [TS]

  yeah I like episode 1 which to be fair [TS]

  we determined after a long scientific [TS]

  process is probably the best of of the [TS]

  prequels just by elimination by a guy [TS]

  didn't like the other ones and I have to [TS]

  admit I haven't listened to your episode [TS]

  talking about outside when it comes to [TS]

  life here it [TS]

  no because i'm afraid you'll make me [TS]

  hate it you don't want your and we will [TS]

  we can't ruin it we and where you [TS]

  because you really curious to logic if [TS]

  you like [TS]

  so you just have to yeah yeah don't let [TS]

  us bring our you're safe [TS]

  maybe that's a good superpower to have I [TS]

  guess I guess [TS]

  hey Scott hello I didn't watch our dogs [TS]

  i don't really like episode 102 don't [TS]

  have much to say it already walking for [TS]

  torque and you know how do you feel [TS]

  about Buffy I've seen one episode of [TS]

  buffy and I was like it so i stopped [TS]

  watching moving on from this guy but [TS]

  he's got the ability for your country [TS]

  decided everybody so one of the things i [TS]

  mean this this whole podcast started [TS]

  five years ago because of a conversation [TS]

  that some of us had on twitter about [TS]

  books and as we're here where the reason [TS]

  we're all together which I never [TS]

  mentioned because i think it's not one [TS]

  of the adversary and so it's just [TS]

  readily apparent that we would get [TS]

  together for the fifth anniversary of [TS]

  the podcast we could have set our sights [TS]

  on the North American city we are [TS]

  reserved hotel rooms we all travel there [TS]

  and then we we agreed to appear on a [TS]

  podcast it's on the we pick the northern [TS]

  Northern US city that is the most [TS]

  difficult for everyone to get to or yes [TS]

  that's based on scientific and I like it [TS]

  was shrouded in smoke [TS]

  indeed so we're here in Spokane water [TS]

  and blood red sox that's right that's [TS]

  right working for what we're trying to [TS]

  make it seem like we're on like dune or [TS]

  something [TS]

  very apocalyptic Iraqis yes it is so so [TS]

  we were talking about books and and [TS]

  we're here at at SAS won the World con [TS]

  the world science fiction convention [TS]

  which is a very i would say much more of [TS]

  a book focused kind of convention than a [TS]

  lot of these media conventions that you [TS]

  get like comic-con where or a Doctor Who [TS]

  convention or something like that it's a [TS]

  lot a lot of lot of authors lot of [TS]

  readers a lot of writers I've seen many [TS]

  people reading in the convention is this [TS]

  place is we're gonna burn this house [TS]

  down to smoke and spend a hundred and [TS]

  seventy dollars on a bad so I could read [TS]

  in the conventions around for someone [TS]

  who wrote this book is right next to me [TS]

  so i will read it and not talk to them [TS]

  with this light that's leading my family [TS]

  doesn't know we're also gonna be the [TS]

  porch and Michael White House might be [TS]

  reading in my cousin while walk in look [TS]

  around and go the neighbors must hate [TS]

  you making so much noise that when they [TS]

  do really they find their favorite [TS]

  author and they go up in his book next [TS]

  to him right in front of space that's [TS]

  there to shine actually talked to the [TS]

  guy but this way they were just talking [TS]

  about this before if you you know you [TS]

  see an author [TS]

  what do I wouldn't say anything to them [TS]

  because i always had read your book and [TS]

  they were and jason said yeah I wrote [TS]

  that book silent and we don't want to [TS]

  that's why I think most of our worse [TS]

  than a bunch of random guys appear next [TS]

  to you and opening your blood was around [TS]

  me like it's a fresh money I've got the [TS]

  obvious and then there are the authors [TS]

  who have learned not to ask what did you [TS]

  think because you might actually find [TS]

  out you don't necessarily but Scott [TS]

  that's the beauty of Scots book [TS]

  Amnesia's he would be like I don't [TS]

  actually remember it's something that's [TS]

  worth I think has the right approach to [TS]

  avoid fanboys just right really heavy [TS]

  books that they can't lift anything [TS]

  that's right you believe those at home [TS]

  on a stand somewhere on your reading [TS]

  lectern and do it there has ruined that [TS]

  that's true if you want to get a lot of [TS]

  connections value prop up tables the but [TS]

  we did we start talking about books [TS]

  that's that's where this all began is [TS]

  that we had a link the twitter [TS]

  conversation about books that we had [TS]

  read that we have liked it not and that [TS]

  first episode is just it's not even like [TS]

  let's all read one or two books like we [TS]

  do now talk about all of it was like [TS]

  talking about everything all the [TS]

  haha politics that we've read it is John [TS]

  reservoir is written on i think that was [TS]

  part of the problem is that each episode [TS]

  like all your next episode looks like [TS]

  movies TV guess what we're out of topics [TS]

  pretty screwed with the way with another [TS]

  video we're gonna need to focus it a [TS]

  little bit this week is bazooka joe [TS]

  rappers that's little it's like really [TS]

  scraping the bottom of the barrel so we [TS]

  started talking about individual TV [TS]

  shows and individual movies and things [TS]

  like that which I individual books [TS]

  yeah and individual books that's true I [TS]

  I Scott is my is Maya he's golden you [TS]

  look where you're going to miss my [TS]

  co-pilot I scott on scott i rely on for [TS]

  good book recommendations he's made some [TS]

  excellent book recommendations over the [TS]

  years and and um you know he could make [TS]

  more but he sorry because you're sad for [TS]

  everybody [TS]

  yes yeah I think cheese is not too i'm [TS]

  here instead of reading [TS]

  let's keep it did Scott what are you [TS]

  doing with that book right now the [TS]

  reason Scott so quietly noted down so [TS]

  what do you think i remember it was only [TS]

  six pages got there they said maybe that [TS]

  you get a little more character [TS]

  development should spread the pictures [TS]

  apartment but it's nice to hear on on [TS]

  Twitter I mean that's where we get most [TS]

  of our feedback occasionally we'll get a [TS]

  an email or I'll get a strange thing in [TS]

  my mailbox that has happened a couple of [TS]

  times in the modular home got dead birds [TS]

  in the trees [TS]

  up in the unsigned value yeah I remember [TS]

  that episode we talk about dead birds [TS]

  that's great back in the old days when [TS]

  we talked for only 45 minutes about the [TS]

  subject of a bird and we can talk about [TS]

  a specific species of dead bird anything [TS]

  cravings [TS]

  yeah investment we started a recurring [TS]

  six every six weeks we talk about a bird [TS]

  that we think it's stupid [TS]

  haha i wrote that will return again what [TS]

  do you think I hated it but it is nice [TS]

  when we hear on mostly on Twitter from [TS]

  people who say thank you for your book [TS]

  recommendations that where were sort of [TS]

  guiding guiding them and by we I i [TS]

  essentially do mean scott says God is [TS]

  the puppet master who controls with [TS]

  people read now it is what I was born to [TS]

  do before I really did those checks from [TS]

  the major publishers come to use got [TS]

  very infrequently still waiting to [TS]

  contact lex friedman and maybe I'm Lex [TS]

  Frieden yeah you should have authors [TS]

  coming up to you herein single Scott [TS]

  McNulty thank you your such a tastemaker [TS]

  i like the idea that it's a reversal oh [TS]

  you read my book [TS]

  everything I did I drop me a line i may [TS]

  have the point really turned aside we [TS]

  have had a couple of a of people who are [TS]

  writers who have been appeared on our [TS]

  episodes and then we're always very [TS]

  careful to not talk about the stuff that [TS]

  they cool [TS]

  are there or even in the in the indie [TS]

  genre that they work in so like we can [TS]

  we have Helen Walker on to talk about [TS]

  Zardoz instead of you know her book [TS]

  which we liked it's true i think that's [TS]

  why she likes the podcast so yes they [TS]

  liked you so much we should be under [TS]

  desire for the book was strange way of [TS]

  showing affection is what can we do we [TS]

  turn we can help you show you we just [TS]

  aren't very good with our feelings [TS]

  here's our dogs you're listening to [TS]

  memories exhort us on the incumbent i [TS]

  proposed action is a copyist our dogs [TS]

  no y z should be on the boulder dash [TS]

  setup mean once you put the penis is bad [TS]

  in your wedding vows made don't know why [TS]

  wouldn't you use on its evil right is [TS]

  evil penis is evil [TS]

  yeah thanks David I gotta check the and [TS]

  now it's going to get anybody to get the [TS]

  hotel memo pad so you can mark the time [TS]

  good sure since the first time penis has [TS]

  been written on the pads jason has left [TS]

  the room [TS]

  Oh guys we just watching watching [TS]

  watching you can this whole affair [TS]

  yeah i was a little worried he's like [TS]

  five years that's it i don't know you're [TS]

  done broke the fight continues finally [TS]

  did that was the last thing you heard [TS]

  him say was no hope you're happy [TS]

  I feel like this podcast is what brought [TS]

  us a lot of joy just really like the [TS]

  human centipede of episodes so Stephen [TS]

  Fry you change your not even for as the [TS]

  humans here when we started out we [TS]

  talked a lot about books that's what i [TS]

  hear that Dan less about penises been so [TS]

  many other topics but you can see the [TS]

  rails from here and we had rails what [TS]

  about find out what about fandom what [TS]

  about it we we [TS]

  why is it white white white white white [TS]

  be a fan [TS]

  yeah today white know what it means that [TS]

  this just let that question over acting [TS]

  what's will just be coming out there [TS]

  like a stone head exploded be silent for [TS]

  a while your question what you've done [TS]

  allow it to marinate Eric I like I what [TS]

  we expand expand on that the weekend [TS]

  some of us can't help can't help being [TS]

  fans just like I was raised that way [TS]

  that was that was those my weed we had [TS]

  no religion in my house except Doctor [TS]

  Who I think [TS]

  my mom and star wars and you know many [TS]

  other geeky things so I got grew up this [TS]

  way I wouldn't know how to do life any [TS]

  differently which is weird because I [TS]

  don't we talked a little bit of [TS]

  everything about the Sun was it maybe [TS]

  episode 200 think we talked about it at [TS]

  some point like our backgrounds in it's [TS]

  like weird for me because I was raised [TS]

  in a house with without people who are [TS]

  like seriously big fans like my dad [TS]

  still doesn't it doesn't really he [TS]

  thinks kind of science fiction fantasy [TS]

  all that stuff was just kind of [TS]

  ridiculous also dan yes there's that [TS]

  soon but now but you know it in but at [TS]

  the same time you know getting exposed [TS]

  to those things then yeah I think Eric [TS]

  is right it's like it you're choose to [TS]

  be confounded chooses you [TS]

  I've seen people choose fandom so people [TS]

  who are fans of Doctor Who hear about [TS]

  something else and like i'm going to try [TS]

  that supernatural show and then just [TS]

  dive in and become crazy super fans this [TS]

  is true this will finally have talked [TS]

  about Suppan supernatural awesome next I [TS]

  haven't actually watched myself but I [TS]

  high-five somebody about it if you want [TS]

  well you know I think the my confusion [TS]

  with supernatural comes with the fact [TS]

  that Dean from the guild music that's [TS]

  that confusing that the reason i've [TS]

  never watched supernatural is there is a [TS]

  character in Supernatural named Dean but [TS]

  Dean from the gilmore girls does not [TS]

  play the character named team it's very [TS]

  confused what's happening I think it's [TS]

  just an alternate universe so what's [TS]

  important to establish that all shows [TS]

  and movies that have the same actors in [TS]

  them are actually all part of the same [TS]

  universe so there is a cannon which [TS]

  sample from supernatural has to go [TS]

  undercover in a small Connecticut town [TS]

  and he picks a name and of course the [TS]

  first thing that comes to mind his [TS]

  brothers brother Dean and he just played [TS]

  me just has to go undercover for like [TS]

  five years [TS]

  I'm now convinced dan and I are not part [TS]

  of the same universe that really [TS]

  cheapens Rory and Dean's relationship [TS]

  dance so everyone has never it was never [TS]

  meant great mystery but still let's look [TS]

  I didn't like more I didn't like that [TS]

  yes obviously went off and became a [TS]

  superhero later history actually liked [TS]

  you better as a superhero after [TS]

  after rewatching the younger think i had [TS]

  a dream that I where he was trying to [TS]

  kill me [TS]

  Milo Ventimiglia with a private Kelly [TS]

  typically we also recently played in [TS]

  Gotham he was a serial killer i think [TS]

  that made him just much creepier in my [TS]

  estimation [TS]

  wow what is in this dream you were [TS]

  cereal yes mr. Caffrey rebels are like [TS]

  oh I was gonna say someone's after your [TS]

  lucky charm always after me lucky that [TS]

  would be there always after me lucky [TS]

  charms with the very disappointing [TS]

  catchphrase in the latest pirates of the [TS]

  caribbean movie ever what about your [TS]

  childhood fandom how are you raised [TS]

  I don't remember a time when I didn't [TS]

  want to start track and that's just sort [TS]

  of blood and everything else you know [TS]

  it's like oh this is like Star Trek i [TS]

  watch space 1999a planet of the apes hey [TS]

  you know and and my mother encouraged to [TS]

  to she was I mean she had all the [TS]

  Tolkien and all the lewis and all the [TS]

  charles williams and all the other [TS]

  Inklings and all you know and so there's [TS]

  this huge British fantasy shelf in our [TS]

  house and then just sort of expanded [TS]

  habits like oh well the ER Edison who's [TS]

  that [TS]

  well I'll read him because he's like [TS]

  these guys and yeah just sort of if and [TS]

  when in 1975 it was in space and had [TS]

  lasers and you know i was watching it [TS]

  you know i watched all of buck rogers in [TS]

  the 25th century when it [TS]

  materiali so I just I this is spoilers [TS]

  for future episodes of robot of robot or [TS]

  not by the way but I i did i did have [TS]

  just recently have a conversation with [TS]

  mr. John siracusa where buck rogers in [TS]

  the 25th century and battlestar [TS]

  galactica from the seventies came up and [TS]

  and you know he and he's younger than me [TS]

  but he has clear memories of those two [TS]

  it just one of the things about where [TS]

  when we live today there is a huge [TS]

  amount of material there John material [TS]

  you can the books and comics and movies [TS]

  and TV series [TS]

  it just is this just avalanche of [TS]

  material and you have to you have to [TS]

  choose from it [TS]

  whereas as as kid growing up especially [TS]

  before Star Wars and then start was kind [TS]

  of kicked off a little bit more of this [TS]

  you were [TS]

  looking for the closest thing resembling [TS]

  a something with a robot or space or [TS]

  something because there was so there was [TS]

  so little so like something terrible [TS]

  like Buck Rogers which again not a [TS]

  spoiler so much for robot or not but [TS]

  featured a robot who carried around like [TS]

  another robot as a method as Italian [TS]

  which is awesome laughing dr. Theophilus [TS]

  yes getting played by but you know when [TS]

  when we were seven you didn't even mind [TS]

  the fact that all of the ships that [TS]

  everyone flew and Buck Rogers were the [TS]

  same ships that they flew in battlestar [TS]

  galactica the same limitation is cheap [TS]

  yeah you know but yeah I mean we just [TS]

  established that means they're in the [TS]

  same universe right that's right i mean [TS]

  tricky stuck in my head when I was [TS]

  little in and I remember [TS]

  hey that's started really selfish today [TS]

  because well seek your daughter back [TS]

  after after getting paul simon's [TS]

  graceland and listening carefully to the [TS]

  actual song Graceland there's this [TS]

  guitar riff in the middle of the song [TS]

  that is just biddy biddy biddy biddy [TS]

  biddy and I can't not say a buck at the [TS]

  end of every time I listen that was a [TS]

  terrible show it has ruled terrible you [TS]

  are going the paul simon episode of [TS]

  being comfortable is always more focused [TS]

  on Wilma Deering's outfits and my father [TS]

  yea high five high five [TS]

  yeah i saw iron gray and and Gil Gerard [TS]

  comic-con signing autographs was not [TS]

  much with not much of a lime and my [TS]

  heart to sell [TS]

  it is this doing in chicago comic con a [TS]

  couple years ago yeah it's sad that [TS]

  there's not much of a wine but I didn't [TS]

  go over there is a part of the problem [TS]

  you really didn't want ya Erinn great i [TS]

  choose much she was much more exciting [TS]

  and Buck Rogers than silver spoons i [TS]

  found i don't you ever watch too much [TS]

  food sorry amendments and silver spoons [TS]

  that were ok assumptions is more excited [TS]

  about the room that had all the video [TS]

  giant train train i want to do I wanted [TS]

  to rain since the remote-controlled door [TS]

  and how did that was gonna send her [TS]

  spinning a podcast I'm not like i can [TS]

  use their trade or amendments in silver [TS]

  spoons that made it worth watching [TS]

  I don't think so like the robots they [TS]

  came in later yeah come on what grounds [TS]

  Rivera love arrow or a robot around his [TS]

  neck and Ally was amazing any style and [TS]

  fresh prince to you know it was a it was [TS]

  a victim Wendie I think so it's kind of [TS]

  over something under the fresh prince [TS]

  harry well as don't understand what you [TS]

  know little thunder chunky is ok i don't [TS]

  know that i don't think i would want to [TS]

  start separate it's in the graffiti in [TS]

  the background at the beginning I feel [TS]

  like there's got to be a whole fan of on [TS]

  all the stuff in the back that's a very [TS]

  common phrase in Philadelphia it's like [TS]

  it's like Andre don't you jump where [TS]

  they're all over the place since you [TS]

  moved there it's just I'm sorry that was [TS]

  rude [TS]

  this podcast is something that it's [TS]

  scott can run three miles straight [TS]

  straight no Toronto Joe do this to a [TS]

  party or anything straight the yeah you [TS]

  need me much [TS]

  it's very flattering and you'd like a [TS]

  nice ramp prefer a mile and a half out a [TS]

  mile-and-a-half back honestly otherwise [TS]

  you're sort of stranded at the end [TS]

  that's true you got a call okay that's [TS]

  how I run I don't know jack about their [TS]

  school I am because we're mir i do but i [TS]

  have its took of you take me awhile to [TS]

  figure out the whole loop thing so i [TS]

  have ended up several models from where [TS]

  I started out like this is stupid [TS]

  this is the exercise exercise whoreson [TS]

  and much too much after workers for this [TS]

  episode is gonna be easy [TS]

  My partner in theater used to train for [TS]

  marathons but he had never run one and [TS]

  he got lost training one day and he [TS]

  actually wind up running like 29 miles [TS]

  just to get back to where he get a car [TS]

  company and he looked at his mild rent [TS]

  oh no they slept for about three days [TS]

  after that halfway through that you ran [TS]

  through a marathon and she's like a [TS]

  marathon better miles and why do all [TS]

  these people have numbers on and it's [TS]

  just funny so so high like we've got a [TS]

  little far afield yeah but Jason bring [TS]

  honor back and we'll be right back from [TS]

  here is another a beverage print so so [TS]

  so we have so my next question is how do [TS]

  you find unwind it how do you find what [TS]

  to consume how do you how do you choose [TS]

  what to watch what to want to read in [TS]

  this in this world where we have much [TS]

  greater selection then back when we were [TS]

  forced to watch Buck Rogers and space [TS]

  1999 when using else on you put up a [TS]

  doodle and then after the first watch on [TS]

  the desktop that same has no wheels [TS]

  these are all right that's not a setup [TS]

  for those for those who don't know [TS]

  doodle is a website where we schedule [TS]

  our our episodes so i will say hey we're [TS]

  going to do an episode about this and [TS]

  then everybody goes there and says what [TS]

  times they're available this happened [TS]

  brought to you by doodle I honestly [TS]

  Steve this is sort of how I consume most [TS]

  things now is is what I have to talk [TS]

  about other podcasts it's a lot harder [TS]

  there's just there is so much more stuff [TS]

  and you have so much less time to [TS]

  consume stuff so you have to be I find [TS]

  that I'm just so much more selective [TS]

  than I was as a teenager say where I [TS]

  would like just like you guys grab a [TS]

  book off the shelf because i had a robot [TS]

  and a blazer gonna fuck you like all [TS]

  right this is what i'm reading and [TS]

  nowadays like if i start reading a book [TS]

  i used to be religious about finishing [TS]

  every book i read and nowadays I very [TS]

  easily get halfway through and I'm like [TS]

  no it's not doing it put down rather be [TS]

  this so i think he has to in some ways [TS]

  makes you a lot more brutal about like [TS]

  the what you want to consume because we [TS]

  don't want to waste your time because [TS]

  time is precious [TS]

  I think there's a fire which we burn i [TS]

  think it was in an appropriate for them [TS]

  to do an edition of The Godfather with a [TS]

  robot is gonna come [TS]

  just the pointer is awake when the robot [TS]

  be there Don Corleone a roomba yeah I'm [TS]

  actually glad that the podcast leave the [TS]

  blaster take the cannoli yeah you're [TS]

  listening to Corleone or not that the [TS]

  podcast give me some rails as far as [TS]

  what to watch and what to consume not [TS]

  two sets of yet no no no no rails and we [TS]

  warned to everybody out there that this [TS]

  was going to have somewhere you're [TS]

  listening is your own fault i listen to [TS]

  Stephen Fry what he says to read i read [TS]

  it yet because there have to be so [TS]

  selective and I hate being brutal about [TS]

  stuff like that so it's sometimes easier [TS]

  when you guys to say oh we're gonna [TS]

  watch star does and then i hate you all [TS]

  this is when you say hey we're gonna [TS]

  watch star doesn't think no we're not [TS]

  but I don't know what sort of what do [TS]

  you mean we just we there is that I mean [TS]

  I used to fund stuff just by browsing [TS]

  like going to a bookstore and that's [TS]

  what they used to house your decision [TS]

  yet [TS]

  back when these hipsters and you can't [TS]

  you can't really browse amazon it's not [TS]

  the same thing you find a thing you're [TS]

  looking for you find things that they [TS]

  try to recommend for you but sometimes [TS]

  just been ruined by the fact that you [TS]

  recently watched his ardent and I gotta [TS]

  get shot but but you know even if even [TS]

  if it were a good recommendation engine [TS]

  which i find it is not very often hear [TS]

  that basis yeah it's like to get some of [TS]

  some of the best things i found in [TS]

  bookstores I would never have picked up [TS]

  otherwise I would never I mean there's [TS]

  no connection is just like hey this [TS]

  looks interesting because the title or [TS]

  the cover or the you know I don't know [TS]

  but I hear better from you guys to write [TS]

  like a dress that's how I get a lot of [TS]

  it not just stuff we're doing for the [TS]

  podcast right also people say i read [TS]

  this thing I watched this movie and it [TS]

  was good and by people I mean Scott and [TS]

  I think that we can do it because you [TS]

  know a person and what they're into and [TS]

  I can you know I can say that was Scott [TS]

  likes this might like it like this i [TS]

  will love it up a notch celebration [TS]

  Wayne Glenn likes this [TS]

  he could have been it was very fun very [TS]

  far far away going to Monte are two [TS]

  residents of the state of Washington [TS]

  could take it to see it's all the way on [TS]

  the other side of the state may be stuck [TS]

  it is not the biggest practically in [TS]

  Montana hear ya [TS]

  hey Steve you you know one of my [TS]

  favorite moments in podcast history when [TS]

  was when a duck at the biergarten I [TS]

  talked about spitting in a tube for a [TS]

  service that is no longer allowed to [TS]

  provide medical advice haha i mention [TS]

  this because that was a live a dream in [TS]

  front of an audience yes that was good [TS]

  times so it's did you know traditional [TS]

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  for false alarms and systems that only [TS]

  tell you if your windows open or closed [TS]

  and not what actually happened well how [TS]

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  awesome [TS]

  hi father I was wanting to defend the [TS]

  meat canary in the superhero bracket is [TS]

  knocked out early [TS]

  well yeah it was an adventure in the [TS]

  coal mine it was just commits good meat [TS]

  kidding me to marry she had my hair out [TS]

  of school is gambit yeah she's one of [TS]

  the know what I right foods getting [TS]

  weird yeah it's true I I so well as [TS]

  we're in the throes of this superhero [TS]

  tournament that is taking way longer [TS]

  than I really initially planned i just [TS]

  want to point out that wasn't him all [TS]

  Phillip it's all film releases fault [TS]

  they suggested we do it a march madness [TS]

  style tournament is it possible that [TS]

  were involved in an elaborate prank for [TS]

  their podcast filling Lisa ruin the [TS]

  podcast that I think it's a Ponzi scheme [TS]

  for its probable more than probable ok [TS]

  Dan yeah yeah so where we were talking [TS]

  about before we met canary meet Canaries [TS]

  after delicious i'm gonna have trouble [TS]

  focusing on the remainder of this [TS]

  podcast but maybe thinking about home [TS]

  security systems are good that's how you [TS]

  should have you should all everybody out [TS]

  there is so you should join them and [TS]

  thinking about it maybe I canary you [TS]

  would need to be worrying about your [TS]

  home security [TS]

  really interesting point yeah that's [TS]

  good they're not paying for this party [TS]

  rolling [TS]

  nevermind don't even own a home I just [TS]

  have cat-like not only have a canary [TS]

  so Scott diamonds are you and there's [TS]

  somebody came and stole Scott as a how [TS]

  do you read so many books and how do you [TS]

  find what books to read [TS]

  I had this I was happy when you get your [TS]

  ideas I had lunch as much withholding [TS]

  wacker and we were talking and she was [TS]

  very grateful that she's a fan of the [TS]

  podcast and she's grateful that you [TS]

  recommended a book and then we all liked [TS]

  it the her first novel the the Golem [TS]

  immagini or no the genie in the Gollum [TS]

  Gollum in the gym [TS]

  no it's the ginagawa notice the goldman [TS]

  Jeanie with the light brown here very [TS]

  confused i was kinda jealous now anyway [TS]

  they do but i didn't read it [TS]

  the golden goat comes first you said [TS]

  Williams the GM ago my social life is [TS]

  all crime does it do to this entry you [TS]

  don't usually have a detective agency [TS]

  and they solve crimes so pre-ordered so [TS]

  but it's when she said she was great she [TS]

  was grateful that you're recommending [TS]

  books how does Scott read so many books [TS]

  so I have to ask how do you do it how do [TS]

  you and where and more to the point [TS]

  where are you looking to decide what to [TS]

  read next because you have come up with [TS]

  some great suggestions for us over the [TS]

  years [TS]

  well I think the however you retired [TS]

  about reading books to it is a very [TS]

  boring in that I just read them i paid [TS]

  to the time one patient needed [TS]

  diagonalizing I tried that one and then [TS]

  my brain exploded [TS]

  I yes so I i guess i'm fairly fast [TS]

  reader my wife who is silently listening [TS]

  to this right now he's our audience [TS]

  again is I want to corroborate whether [TS]

  an opposite you just got real sorry [TS]

  about your time with she is much faster [TS]

  than i am actually so we just read Adam [TS]

  watching TV i read i don't drive to work [TS]

  i don't have anymore so drivers license [TS]

  because i was reading once and killed a [TS]

  man haha [TS]

  so that's it i read a lot just because [TS]

  you make time it's important to make the [TS]

  time [TS]

  dan you could learn a lesson from oh no [TS]

  not good not to put too fine a point on [TS]

  it the more interesting thing where do I [TS]

  find all these books book store because [TS]

  of my curves gonna finish a library [TS]

  library i do go to library uh so i [TS]

  peruse the shelves of the library much [TS]

  like you don't know what you're talking [TS]

  about going to bookstores libraries like [TS]

  a bookstore only you can take a book for [TS]

  free [TS]

  yeah you want to church I got a book [TS]

  store once around about it is like [TS]

  Twitter a lot of people tweet about [TS]

  stuff and then I really think about I [TS]

  find actually when you spend your time [TS]

  to retweet his books this is well one [TS]

  hand his twitter when you guys look [TS]

  great on book anytime you come and [TS]

  murder she wrote is playing in the [TS]

  background that happens also drive [TS]

  memory says canning in another exciting [TS]

  feature is now that is exactly how I [TS]

  imagined your house is pretty good [TS]

  actually [TS]

  so you tweet Twitter amazon actually [TS]

  find themselves recommendations to be [TS]

  pretty good for me so well you bet you [TS]

  want a lot of well here's here's the the [TS]

  difference i have two children searching [TS]

  for things randomly I don't have that [TS]

  problem yeah I did once by like a [TS]

  hundred pairs of socks for moms of your [TS]

  marketing potential suspect is all socks [TS]

  and in order like the 15u a tube of lube [TS]

  on by friday did you [TS]

  you might also like that's not so there [TS]

  was a code was not a Code Red anyone [TS]

  for some of us baby also I don't see how [TS]

  effective it isn't that that after you [TS]

  order a hundred Sox that they would say [TS]

  oh you probably didn't really love socks [TS]

  you might also enjoy Sox in jars [TS]

  actually like the ones on my head just [TS]

  like Red Sox it's no toasted side of Red [TS]

  Sox me crabs are considered shoes [TS]

  anymore actually watches online and now [TS]

  all the ads are shoes like shoes yeah [TS]

  maybe you need that yeah you need that [TS]

  like a contextual advertising where it's [TS]

  like have you considered now clips [TS]

  shoelaces there's nobody asks possible [TS]

  are using Imelda Marcos @ [TS]

  email you I wrong somebody that was [TS]

  probably it a plus love this topic [TS]

  already i was just Dan recommended the [TS]

  Miles Vorkosigan books so i found a [TS]

  whole the world looks the part of our co [TS]

  2nd brother started again [TS]

  Tsonga does it say Sokka the state they [TS]

  had robots and laser guns they did have [TS]

  ages it's really which came to me from [TS]

  my family which is where i got a lot [TS]

  like my extended family my cousins who [TS]

  are huge sci-fi nerd stuff like what I [TS]

  call you never read this you need to [TS]

  read this and that's why we will beat [TS]

  you again with the library to the top [TS]

  when I tell ya they got a pillowcase [TS]

  filled with paper bags walk over there [TS]

  like we were like that you got one hand [TS]

  in a book and if you answer wrong is [TS]

  slamming down yeah I'm good thom yorke [TS]

  true don't marry a librarian to wait i [TS]

  love you yeah I i want i didn't marry a [TS]

  librarian look what happened she became [TS]

  a library happen to anyone to everyone [TS]

  you're listening to the instrument of [TS]

  strain now it's a very special episode [TS]

  is this is not how libraries work and I [TS]

  was talking about Frank Capra film its [TS]

  its its spores it's all sports just [TS]

  about to close up the library so that [TS]

  this is a this is why Steve wasn't until [TS]

  episode 9 haha have lingered on like [TS]

  crotch rot until five years on such a [TS]

  beautiful way with words [TS]

  yeah haha it's really my truth you'll [TS]

  always be our meat canary haha we will [TS]

  always have the basin is very cool & [TS]

  crash I'm okay haha [TS]

  anybody else wanna answer that question [TS]

  is about whether you find things David [TS]

  you wouldn't talk about that I well you [TS]

  know Twitter and friends and walking [TS]

  through the library and walking through [TS]

  the bookstore's I mean I state i still [TS]

  go to bookstores when I see them in the [TS]

  burnt-out husks of shopping malls in the [TS]

  post-apocalyptic wilderness but yeah I [TS]

  mean that's pretty much it or or if if [TS]

  I'm interested in a writer or something [TS]

  i will look up other things they have [TS]

  done and then go ahead i'll try that i [TS]

  really like that scene in fury road [TS]

  where they go to the bookstore [TS]

  yeah the burnt-out husk of shopping is [TS]

  Casey the serendipity of bookstores is [TS]

  not what it used to be though because i [TS]

  felt like i used to wander through [TS]

  bookstores night without never seen this [TS]

  before but like nowadays because of the [TS]

  way the publishing industry has gone [TS]

  even though there is more stuff it seems [TS]

  like whenever I feel like a lot of stuff [TS]

  going to book series the first see me [TS]

  right like oh yeah this you have heard [TS]

  of this book i heard this one this one [TS]

  has been times I wonder at bookstores [TS]

  and look around and say I've never seen [TS]

  this before a bookstore I'm a bookstore [TS]

  yeah like I mean going through lots of [TS]

  airports just this weekend you know I [TS]

  stop and look at the bookstore is there [TS]

  and it's like wow it's like all the [TS]

  child and James Patterson's wasteland [TS]

  daniel silva [TS]

  and and then you know chick lit books [TS]

  which I mean I'm sure they're fine if [TS]

  you like that kind of thing and actually [TS]

  Chiclets right next to get the check way [TS]

  this is so a little chick purchasing [TS]

  children cheering Chiclets healthy soup [TS]

  Northwest yeah I've act I've been going [TS]

  to enough literary type convention [TS]

  slightly that I've actually met a bunch [TS]

  of authors whose books I hadn't read and [TS]

  luckily so far all of the nice cool [TS]

  authors have also been good writers so [TS]

  think of it but it when i wrote that [TS]

  what did you think you can get into [TS]

  reading books is by finding famous [TS]

  authors and reading their books next day [TS]

  really would you go up next to say what [TS]

  book did you read and then you say okay [TS]

  and then you go back and come back [TS]

  tomorrow with the book to read near them [TS]

  so it's an incident of all the process [TS]

  but gets results [TS]

  alright TV is my next question which is [TS]

  how do you find days [TS]

  how do you find your next question [TS]

  that's why you don't read in my state [TS]

  through i do watch too much television [TS]

  it's true so how do you have any priors [TS]

  that we are in a time where there are [TS]

  more scripted TV series being made than [TS]

  ever before so there's a huge amount and [TS]

  and it's actually the quality is pretty [TS]

  darn good there's a lot of great stuff a [TS]

  lot of good stuff [TS]

  how do you prioritize what you spend [TS]

  time the distribution channels are more [TS]

  limited there in that you know there are [TS]

  there are more networks in the room [TS]

  before but they're still limited amount [TS]

  of network space and time to which to [TS]

  develop these things that is the entire [TS]

  history of television available on DVD [TS]

  or netflix yes you just overwhelmed me [TS]

  see if you can identify Iran for [TS]

  television for example all 20,000 [TS]

  seasons of murder [TS]

  LOL stream on Syria 13,000 ok I'm Royals [TS]

  buck rogers in the 25th century the last [TS]

  episode of Murder She Wrote she's the [TS]

  last please don't shoot a murderer [TS]

  yes it turns out she's clearly one of [TS]

  those murders [TS]

  one thing in common Jessica Fletcher [TS]

  serial murderer never car don't hang [TS]

  around this woman so large that episode [TS]

  was yours right next to David very [TS]

  necessary skills that imperative [TS]

  electric had it coming [TS]

  she's honest one left so i think that [TS]

  you know for me I keep my ear to the [TS]

  ground as far as like new television [TS]

  goes and when a new season comes out and [TS]

  sort of like okay this year the three or [TS]

  four shows that sounds really [TS]

  interesting but a lot of its [TS]

  word-of-mouth and for me I kind of I [TS]

  generally go buy both for books and TV [TS]

  shows and movies I sort of go by a [TS]

  two-person rule where it's like if two [TS]

  people who are totally unconnected both [TS]

  recommend the same thing to me I feel [TS]

  like okay that's probably worth checking [TS]

  out because if I got like one of my [TS]

  cousin's recommending something one of [TS]

  my friends recommending something it's [TS]

  like well those are two independent [TS]

  sources and both of them like this thing [TS]

  and I tend to like the things they like [TS]

  so that's a pretty good recommendation [TS]

  but I also i mean with things like [TS]

  netflix and hulu I spent a lot of time [TS]

  browsing or just like looking through to [TS]

  see a lot of times I ceiling with like [TS]

  an actor I like or from a creator that I [TS]

  like and just sort of hop from one thing [TS]

  to the XO and I know kind of with John [TS]

  pajamas i prefer watching so that really [TS]

  helps narrow the search a bit [TS]

  I don't end up watching a lot of things [TS]

  that are like I don't know like soap [TS]

  operas for example so I I it i find a [TS]

  little bit more containable just because [TS]

  look sometimes it seems much more [TS]

  overwhelming because there are so many [TS]

  books I tend to like a lot of different [TS]

  things for his TV I feel like it's [TS]

  easier to narrow things down a bit [TS]

  there you go that's the damn 1c great we [TS]

  must television [TS]

  step one put your ear on the ground [TS]

  Scott maybe if you're watching more [TS]

  television that sounds too much like [TS]

  exercise for me i'm out you have to turn [TS]

  three books are watching it and [TS]

  multitask [TS]

  yea networks any other anybody else want [TS]

  to share their their methodology for [TS]

  what they watch on TV or for me it [TS]

  depends on what what I need out of [TS]

  television a peasant Doctor Who I yeah [TS]

  that's a short sharp cookie [TS]

  really anti five but sometimes I just [TS]

  need to completely venture out and you [TS]

  know I get home from a hard day of work [TS]

  and I don't even want something with the [TS]

  plot so i will put on like a cooking [TS]

  competition show so it's really yeah [TS]

  it's kind of doctor who or cooking [TS]

  competition show or whatever else and [TS]

  watching for a podcast and that's about [TS]

  all almost about it i just don't have [TS]

  time for that and books i go through [TS]

  phases where i watch EXTRA TV shows but [TS]

  I don't read books anymore so i have to [TS]

  have to choose choose wisely and i'm in [TS]

  a book phase now so sorry TV [TS]

  someday the BBC will release bangers and [TS]

  mash with david tennant your rooms with [TS]

  my god that's not what he's the [TS]

  time-traveling chef [TS]

  she's a hard-bitten detective to solve [TS]

  crimes across time the kitchen [TS]

  cool BBC called alright yeah i mean i [TS]

  don't i was obsessed with TV when I was [TS]

  really little and would watch anything [TS]

  and each year when the fall preview [TS]

  issue of TV Guide only i would i would [TS]

  keep it and I would mark things i would [TS]

  analyze I mean I wanted to be Brandon [TS]

  turn it off when I was little I wanted [TS]

  to figure out good skin is always pay [TS]

  attention to that and even now I mean [TS]

  yeah it's overwhelming but I still pay [TS]

  attention to who's doing what what the [TS]

  genre Tsar what the shows are and you [TS]

  know if a if all of these people [TS]

  involved in the show have made shows [TS]

  that i really didn't like I'm probably [TS]

  not gonna watch that show but the [TS]

  inverse if enough of them have been [TS]

  involved in stuff i like I'll give it a [TS]

  shot and it might be good might not and [TS]

  and now I also know so many playwrights [TS]

  who are sort of slipping into writers [TS]

  rooms now i'll give their shows a try [TS]

  I don't know many that I've stuck with a [TS]

  broken in that actually works and watch [TS]

  their shows while sitting next to them [TS]

  is my question overnight i read their [TS]

  players sitting next know [TS]

  do act out their plays while sitting yes [TS]

  I i get paid a lot [TS]

  let's apply about a writer been [TS]

  confronted by a fan who's sitting next [TS]

  to them reading the book that I just ate [TS]

  some tail the title before we go I [TS]

  wanted a chat room and extend your [TS]

  vacation you can have possibly been [TS]

  three hours [TS]

  well it's it's time dilation is [TS]

  happening I wouldn't ask looking forward [TS]

  what thinking about the cat guess what [TS]

  are some things that we haven't done [TS]

  that we should do in the next year or [TS]

  five the minute-by-minute Buffy analysis [TS]

  is that what that is this different [TS]

  podcast that will you know happen [TS]

  eventually once i'm retired from [TS]

  podcasting knows God for everything else [TS]

  weren't so what yeah what are we doing [TS]

  what would you like to do what would you [TS]

  like to do this is your your uh i-i've [TS]

  got my little topic list that i keep [TS]

  compiling and as we go along and I'm [TS]

  taking suggestions so what should we do [TS]

  i will have been meaning to read the [TS]

  foundation trilogy so I'd like to do not [TS]

  use about that i'm out that's all yes I [TS]

  just gonna do anything like a movie club [TS]

  have classic sci-fi book oh that's gonna [TS]

  specify it down [TS]

  I think we really need to branch into [TS]

  new forms new mediums I think we need to [TS]

  discuss like hyper textual fiction I [TS]

  don't know if that's the thing that [TS]

  comes out virtual reality like in second [TS]

  life podcast yeah there's a lot of [TS]

  reading and once again scott takes the [TS]

  question seriously and gives me a good [TS]

  answer Indians just got whatever [TS]

  yep that wins 260 episodes Jason what do [TS]

  you expect [TS]

  it's true it's tiring David we have any [TS]

  other where we all wear oculus rift [TS]

  virtual valleys will all be in a room in [TS]

  spokane in the virtual i will say that [TS]

  her so do it is though it is off topic [TS]

  for the incomparable podcast it might [TS]

  match with some of our other podcast [TS]

  actually think it would be really fun to [TS]

  do a performance of something like i [TS]

  don't know i think we fun to do like a [TS]

  library of a Shakespeare play with the [TS]

  incomparable cats love to i think that [TS]

  would be hilarious [TS]

  I would love to do that and i found [TS]

  interesting about I cast my last second [TS]

  how do you feel about the Shakespeare [TS]

  episode of Gilligan's Island [TS]

  oh yes you be there when I thought you [TS]

  might be that is the question that I ask [TS]

  of me I have serious concerns and I'm [TS]

  sorry you're trapped in that corner but [TS]

  we're leaving you but then for yourself [TS]

  there's a window dad know about will get [TS]

  to meet Canaries so I say Steve if you [TS]

  have any idea anything on the to-do list [TS]

  you just going to wait for the doodles [TS]

  to come in and get what i say i really [TS]

  don't have anything to contribute Jason [TS]

  huh [TS]

  I five years on I'm still not entirely [TS]

  sure why I'm on this bike and going [TS]

  because you're handcuffed to a chair and [TS]

  even episode we explain that maybe the [TS]

  orange the secret origin of see blocks [TS]

  Oh secret identity of the meeting area [TS]

  I've never seen them together as [TS]

  promised I've kind of a kind of receded [TS]

  from TV and long time ago books and I've [TS]

  got such a limited amount of time to to [TS]

  deal with any media at all with the kids [TS]

  in the work and all that stuff and [TS]

  usually when I have a spare half an hour [TS]

  or so i'll find some old game that i [TS]

  meant to play in 1993 and old game club [TS]

  so the extent of the media that I [TS]

  consume literally as stuff that other [TS]

  people have recommended for the podcast [TS]

  which is great because it forces me to [TS]

  broaden my horizons a little bit but I [TS]

  don't spend a lot of time thinking about [TS]

  what else I should drive and frankly [TS]

  don't have the time for it [TS]

  we've got we've got you under our power [TS]

  that you in control america and i think [TS]

  i said earlier that i like that you guys [TS]

  give me rails so i don't have to come up [TS]

  with me yeah it's a good alright the [TS]

  podcast still firmly in your control [TS]

  just giving you a statement right there [TS]

  on the internet for suggesting an [TS]

  episode i try to stay tuned for that [TS]

  fact that i would be on that episode [TS]

  she's got one asking for more homework [TS]

  while you're at it look [TS]

  alright I think we have reached an [TS]

  ending point what of this entire but [TS]

  since you don't find before you a small [TS]

  cup of kool aid vicious say hello to the [TS]

  meat canary for me all the listeners who [TS]

  signed up for our special mailing list [TS]

  will see a small packet in the mail you [TS]

  should probably bring that up now and [TS]

  watch watch for the comet overhead for [TS]

  your infinite tube didn't know that to [TS]

  Jason and that's it doesn't have they [TS]

  made the kool-aid I don't have a special [TS]

  Nikes and your game for concho you get [TS]

  only a purple white hands that we send [TS]

  that sand and watch for the stone head [TS]

  floating outside your house [TS]

  Scott I roll the dice 12 is that head [TS]

  and I don't know you hit all of us all [TS]

  right we have all failed are saving [TS]

  throw against podcast so I like to thank [TS]

  my guests for joining me around the [TS]

  table for this the fifth anniversary [TS]

  episode of the incomparable de Morgan [TS]

  thank you for being here on so many [TS]

  episodes see in five years you soon okay [TS]

  until then David Laura your secret to [TS]

  being on many episodes that you just [TS]

  want to say yes to every single episode [TS]

  I don't know how you do it well you pick [TS]

  a lot of things I've already seen and [TS]

  read and I'm i like talking about the [TS]

  argument of saying yes [TS]

  yeah hey idea of saying yeah sure when I [TS]

  was smart enough not to join the [TS]

  superhero spectacular you gotta give me [TS]

  that [TS]

  oh yeah i can get you in on that after [TS]

  the super stacker is over you might be [TS]

  the only person like no no no I'm [TS]

  staying away from that you are Eric and [TS]

  David will have their own show where you [TS]

  offered like a major off the founding [TS]

  member scott McNulty thank you for being [TS]

  here since episode one [TS]

  it's my pleasure can leave this room no [TS]

  no Steve lights I don't know why you're [TS]

  here either [TS]

  thank you for being here thank you Jason [TS]

  forgiven me yet another reason to [TS]

  question my life choices [TS]

  America is I'm so glad that you could [TS]

  join us too yeah I still feel like the [TS]

  new kid on the block maybe after another [TS]

  five years I won't maybe yeah after we [TS]

  introduce the people were gonna kill the [TS]

  rest of the ok it's very good it's like [TS]

  a reality show [TS]

  yeah and today and finally thanks to [TS]

  everybody out there I if you have [TS]

  reached this point in this podcast you [TS]

  are the greatest podcast listeners [TS]

  effort and you need to probably seek [TS]

  help as well so thank you so much and [TS]

  just went when you seek help wear [TS]

  sunscreen trust me [TS]

  yeah so thank you to all all the people [TS]

  out there will be back with a normal [TS]

  episode maybe next week or it'll be one [TS]

  of the superhero figure and sixty will [TS]

  eventually have a normal and this is [TS]

  gonna happen to have law of averages [TS]

  yeah it's just about to happen [TS]

  eventually but until then this jason [TS]

  smell your host signing off for five [TS]

  years and will probably be back next [TS]

  week this probably isn't the last [TS]

  episode right then probably all right [TS]

  you can take who can say that the future [TS]

  is promised to no one [TS]

  recording [TS]