00:00:00 ◼ ► talk about tebow next week sorry John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► we're never talking with Eva so we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► the midst of talking about what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► about shirts for this year we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/8">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► talking about it the three of us for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► couple of weeks now thing and i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► like it and i really like it and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► brilliant ideas in terms of design we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/19">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► don't want to just kind of phone it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/21">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► and do regurgitation of a prior design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► but you know we if their listeners that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/27">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► would like shirts we want to fulfill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/30">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► so where were in the midst of a debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► over what to do when we were currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► leaning towards I think not doing shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► this year in part because teespring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/40">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► delivered before wdc which is typically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► when we try to get this thing done by so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/47">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► yeah so because basically letting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► because a lot of fans are there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► people like buying shirts and showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► off their t-shirts there but the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► is that the vast majority of purchasers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► of the shirt probably aren't going to pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► Edward we're talking like you do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► have t-shirt fatigue or people tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/71">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► teachers people have too many t-shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► is there anything else we could sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/75">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► they be a hoodie maybe like mugs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► position is very strong that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► think we should have an original design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/84">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► every time we do these things and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► you know we because we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► like you know I learned forever ago from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► howard stern actually I learned a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► from he had a thing he was he was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► of criticizing somebody else if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► nothing I didn't rush limbaugh school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/100">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► some other like talk show host for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► audience for just selling them all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► of garbage with with his name on it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► something like that and and howard said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► like his his position as always to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► basically asked the audience for money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► as infrequently as possible to not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► that's why you can't get like howard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► stern's face on a bumper sticker like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/120">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► you can't there's there's pretty much no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► official merchandise for the shows it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► very little if any i can I never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► seen any and he said when he moved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► serious that was like a big ask that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► Radio to a paid services like a madman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► ask the audience now for the pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► come to me just to this paid service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► he said he was already asked them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► that then he really didn't want to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/142">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► them for more money like anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/143">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► conserve the times he asked the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► for money you know as respect for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► audience and so that when he does ask it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/151">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► internalize that and a lot of stuff I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► and that's why I feel like with the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/159">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► I feel like for us to ask the listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► hey go buy this thing I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► sure it's it's good i want and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► want to ask that question too often and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► so that's why I like for me it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/169">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► enough to just say let's just do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► know that the original shirt with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► logo wanted with Swift on the back for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► instance which one of the ideas we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/177">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► but should we should be fine because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► original version had just seeking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► back wheel but Swift in the back and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► would feel like folding it in and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► don't want to do that to you to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► audience because if we're going to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► you to buy something we want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/189">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► sure it's it's like good and and that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► are putting a lot of effort into our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/193">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► yeah so we're in summary were not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► what to do and and when we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► don't know what to do with probably spun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► wait until somebody has a clever idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► do love that lava like in the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► suggested making ATP watchstrap i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► fantastic for the Apple watches the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► two of us are wearing LOL it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/213">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► become multiple multiple versions my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► could have a spring bar so you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► any watch and John's could just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► something that you hang on the wall or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/220">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► something i can come with the arm hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► already torn out of your arm and attach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► well John we could get like we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► like custom dining flexes printed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► don't know what that is I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/230">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► what that is weird I about it's a there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► the RSI the little like gyroscopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► pinball things that people use for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► so that's actually really good idea for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► alright alright speaking of useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► information i have a very short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► I apparently have a know what's the term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► for this somebody that has my exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► doppelganger between or doppelganger by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► yeah but it doesn't he doesn't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► me when I was trying to get myself onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► the right time table when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/260">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► california on vacation as everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► always is when they're in California I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► is doing vandy search for god knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► and I somehow came up with the link i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► just put in the chat that says casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► list a senior computer engineering major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/274">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► at the University of New Hampshire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► presented his research on quote IOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► security basic implementation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► hash function Blake and I was completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► stupefied by this because I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/284">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► combination of kc list was startling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► then furthermore I found another page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► this is how bored in desperate i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► during my bout of insomnia i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► another page that had some mention of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/299">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► supposedly looks like justin timberlake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/308">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► even though he really doesn't who has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/309">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► interesting because my dad's name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► cory it's spelled differently but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► very weird and that's totally weirded me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► out and I wanted to share with the group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► and we can cut this from the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► Christmas show because i think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► be amazing if it became like a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► that people did that whenever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► wanted to give like a fake name to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► newspaper reporter or something instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► of going for something like name that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► sounds like you know like some general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► reference when it said aloud that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► know people have done before you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/341">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► wouldn't be amazing to just have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► all the kc Lissa's like just showing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► no that'll ruin my vanity searches man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► come on that's the best reason to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► yeah yeah so that really weirded me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► when I was in California was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► three in the morning or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/361">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► this and i found that i have a quasi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► doppelganger I think there's a term for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► this I don't think its doppelganger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► because this is a double ganger somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► yes where's the Loom lot it's over the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► I gotta get this right and unless we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► oh my god those for you yeah we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► just one serial killer away from having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► her vanity searches ruined anyway you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/383">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► going through a letter or pop star you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► going through life and your name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► Michael Bolton has an office space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► it was a good game so that no-talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/395">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► God did we or did we get a reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► trifecta I yeah i was i'm coming down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► it's one of the five movies I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► goodness alright so we should probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/407">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► do a little bit of follow-up wdc charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► failures we had a lot of discussion in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► the past episode about what would happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► if you win the lottery and you have won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► the right to give Apple sixteen hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► dollars of your money and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► attempt to charge your credit card and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/430">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► credit card company says screw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► listen David back road in and said I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► an email on Saturday that they failed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► charge my card for WWDC I updated my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► info and they successfully charged it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► today I even got a phone call from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► apple dev relations representative to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► additionally Andrew wrote in my credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/446">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► card got declined not for billing info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► apple gave me three days to get it fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► yeah so that's great sounds like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► have they have taken this really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► like just kind of like you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► like hurts to happen to you floss from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/461">TS</a>]
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00:14:48 ◼ ► overcast which has a much-improved sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/888">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► system or maybe yeah how was your day a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► well I release two versions overcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► the last few days if that tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/899">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► exactly how good the first one was mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/900">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► yeah I released a new version overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► that had a noticeable improvements to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► sinking and in particular the speed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/910">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► syncing between multiple devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► iikind of code name this quick sync even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► though i know lots of other things i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► tell things like there's so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► in the tech industry called Quick Sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/921">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► branding it and I didn't capitalize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/925">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► kind of is what i call it in blog posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► it basically what this is is a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/931">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► tricky sync system that combines push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/936">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► notifications and icloud key-value store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► to try to get fast thinking between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/943">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► multiple devices most of which are Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► devices and one of which is my website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► the technical details of it aren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► interesting i don't think every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► object has a sink version number on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► and when you make a change you increment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► command the server managers conflicts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► when they arise when you make a change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► you also append to an iCloud key value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► store list the object you just changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► its ID and then the version number that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► you just set on it when the key-value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► store syncs across other devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► are running overcast they will within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► usually a few seconds or so they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► get that notification from iCloud which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► has a persistent connection to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► phones will get information from cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► saying hey this dictionary just changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► and now you can look at you can say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/987">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► has version numbers on these objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► that I don't know about yet so then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► triggers the device to go to my servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► and fetch the new information even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► well it won't it if the app is running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► at all it'll get the notifications but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► if it's so if it's playing audio it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► get them because running but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► suspended in the background when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► not playing audio it won't get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► gotcha so i made the system and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► tightened up a few other timings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► various things like when you activate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► the app how often is it sink is it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► sink every time you activated or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► doesn't have like a certain minimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► every X minutes and then certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► you do like should I sink every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► pause or seek and then if if you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► playing audio how often should I sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► the playback position of that so if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► thing's probably to the website and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► other devices if you have any devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► it's just this kind of complex fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► boring solution to a really tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► problem which is sinking things in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► way that's quick and efficient of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► and power usage and server resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► it's kind of hard to get right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► first version i launched I didn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► right and smoke there was a sink loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► issue which fortunately I could fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► server side but all day yesterday my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► servers are collapsing because this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► theory creates more sink requests than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► and so on the server I i actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► server tells the app how frequently to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► sink certain things and and how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► certain time should be so things like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► qualifying yes so so I i do some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► and so the server using just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► know tweaking some variables variables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► in the server i can slow down all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► ads or speed them up and so I lost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► kind of like a middle setting i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► would be good a little bit conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► and my servers were just collapsing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► I'm wondering what the heck is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► so I start looking at the logs right at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► you know adding more debug information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► for an optimized certain things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► immediately provision fifty percent more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► web servers just more instances get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► out there p someone comes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► massive speed up and memory reduction so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► in the midst of all this i'm like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► know I was running on one server before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► and let me just deployed to the rest i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► need any savings you can get right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► so i have creepy doll them doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► this crazy stuff upgrading things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► optimizing things checking database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► query spreading out memcache like doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► all like mike reading skills of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► in my career I've had many server days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► very few of them know after i left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► tumblr because i was once I left tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► i was dealing with things that were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► much smaller scale so it's paper you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► know I had some of those days but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► scale wasn't as big and then with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► overcast I've had almost none of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► surveys from hell because a I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► better at do at doing server stuff be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► the server stuff has got more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► and see overcast isn't that big as i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► further from having server days from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► Hell frequently each one I have now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► like I have no tolerance for any more so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► each server day from hell i have now at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► the end of it just like i'm just using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► iCloud from now on I like I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► but but but i'm still doing it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► next few days at least speak what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► happens anyway so eventually to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► very long story short eventually I'll i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► figured out under certain conditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► after basically there there's a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► condition checker if between when used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► when you start a sink and when you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► the sink if you change that object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► locally then you by definition have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► most recent version as long as think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► that you didn't span hours or days or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► whatever you know if it's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► immediate mode sink if you modify it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► during sync operation and the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► comes back saying what you have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► out-of-date replace it with this stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► got from some other ipad somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► that's in your closet then you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► know what you have is correct so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► a condition where the app can tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► server no matter what you think you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► replace it with what i have i'm forcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► you to accept my eyes a force over right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► there's condition where the app was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► saying no force this because there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► race condition the server under certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► conditions was incrementing its version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► number on the response back which meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► it put itself in a loop the app would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► say no force it to have this the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► would say okay and it was sent back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► something saying but the new version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► this and the app would say okay but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► also changing out the new version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► this plus one server would say back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► ok thanks but now it's this plus 1 so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► was it created this loop under that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► certain race conditioned response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► scenario that in which also nothing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► it's this wouldn't have happened for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► almost anybody and I had a beta test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► that have 500 people on it and it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► happened in the beta should let it run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► to see if you could have overflow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► how big was the the number big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► that i would have gotten very big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► trouble if i would have let that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► because it's I i don't think i used a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► big and i think i use a regular in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► it's it's at least 32 bits ahead and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► I was seeing revision numbers that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► in like the you know six hundreds range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► so it would have taken a while to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► 4.2 billion that will be there it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► if I unsigned it you know maybe two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► billion if I if I didn't if I signed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► so this this is obviously a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► fortunately that i was able to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► server side but it took me most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► day to find that to figure out what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► causing certain clients to just hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► sync service over and over again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► seemingly identical looking requests so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► i resolved my day from hell for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► part there was also separately from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► a race condition sink plug which causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► episodes to basically come back from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► sometimes like if you if you played it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► on an iPad and then went and finished on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► next time you launch the ipad app the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► ipad but tell the server hey I have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► version of those things I'm playing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► it also can can cause some weird issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► so i submitted an expedited request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► which I hardly ever do so basically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► was it was a day and a half from hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► and now my hands are all sore from RSI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► stuff from the server day from how and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► yeah I i'm looking forward to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► talking for the next hour instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► well not the whole hour you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1378">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► talk for most of the rest of it the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► where we tell Marco about unit test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► again I think Casey because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► you're right on our regular scheduled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► see what you do is for every weird case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► you can think of involving everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► device you simulate those scenarios in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► series of tests and every time you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► for the new scenario that you're worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► about as you drift off to sleep you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► like I'm going to write tests for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► and see if it works and then you run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► those tests to make sure you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► broken anything it really thats it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► everytime you revise the sync system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► then you feel better when you do release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► and you're still not going to find all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► the bugs but every time you find one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► them part of fixing the bug is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► fixing it on your server and fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► your client releasing two versions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► writing a failing test case to isolate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► the bug and then fixing the bug and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► that it fixes your tests and then every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► time you run this s you feel a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► better about the changes you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► yeah I think so alright so so John case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► you guys can come over and you can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► a bunch of tests for me to show me how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► I won't pay you doing for exposure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► of course and then you can and if I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► it maybe i'll hire you in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► mm I see how does everybody think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► it's the new gig you know where were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► implementing the company's a pall over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► again you know where we implementing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► app and the guy I'm working with whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► archos actually a Jamie he has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► really done unit testing before but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► been really really open to it and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► interested in doing it on this project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► everything is right as we possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► and over the last just 48 hours he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► to me at least three or four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► times oh my god i'm so glad i wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► unit test because I just exposed a bug i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► didn't even know was there just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► they're your friend kids they're your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► friend systems are our pain especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► in client-server things are pain and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► know this is like sort of designing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► testability if you know you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► have something like that as a pain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► how much I'm gonna write as against as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► you need a server and the client their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► separate code bases the running several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► places like it encourages you to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► both ends of your sync system work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► disembodied like happens to be divorced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► from both the client and the server so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► you can actually test them and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► only thing the client and the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► providing is like little homes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► transport mechanisms and you can test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► independently and then once you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► those pieces and you're confident that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► those tests show that they work the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► they work then you can write your series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► of scenarios with just a bunch of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► know test data and fixtures and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► the beginning your chest you make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► whole bunch of theoretical devices in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► different states and then you make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► collide with each other in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► randomize them and have them you know be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► turned on and turned off at random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► intervals to make sure everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► yeah they are they are super annoying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► code and super annoying to test but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► you if you code with that in mind from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► the beginning you can save yourself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► lot of a lot of headaches i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► with the worst one I think I recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► doing was involved a whole mess of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► stored procedure code in the database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► which is a particularly easy to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► divorce from the database itself and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► can't really mock it while you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► market the other sense of the word but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► anyway so you kind of had so you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► instance for testing purposes filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► with crap data and then run the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► procedures I couldn't figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► get that logic out of there and had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► be any way it always it that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► what the worst and the best project that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► and that way the worst thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► the hardest to make it testable and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► best in that it was this Byzantine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► movers come up with by some business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► person with a very complicated excel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► spreadsheet and there's no way in hell I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► would have any confidence that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► correctly implementing this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► specification it wasn't for x in x and x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► of unit tests was the only I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► the only way I could have you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► i was done because it was just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► nonsensical but it's like well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► thing does what you say in every obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► scenario into the corner case that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► covered by your stupid specification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► i'll ask you about it and whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► say on the mint and I'll say look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► is everything enjoy and I hope tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► system is considerable as complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► than that BS thing that I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► about sometimes he still get the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► sweats about it is a fairly simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► system it really is it just it like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► of the bugs and sink have been on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► app side not on the server side this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► really think this might be the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► server-side stink bug that I've ever had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► that was like meaningful well it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► combination menu is like which side is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► the bug on who's behaving badly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► their server was confused because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► sending back the wrong version number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► but it's like you know it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► matter which side you're on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► team here you just trying to just try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► get them to not have infinite loops like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► that's the one you know coalesced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► some of the reversion that have does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► those the worst test to make like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► performance tests and like average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► number of sinks test to try to catch out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► of bounds errors when you just want an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► order of magnitude look I'm gonna run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► this whole set of unit tests and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► should run somewhere in the thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► requests across the virtual wire if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► runs 10,000 or hundred thousand maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► throw of test failure and say hey I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► seen order of magnitude change in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► amount of traffic maybe something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► wrong and that's those type of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► heuristics especially when it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► your own test for years like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► because you what you saw was a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► increase in traffic but it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► been legit like you don't know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► don't you don't know what's out there on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► everyone just updated all the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► or whatever but you're in your unit test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► if you had triggered that that loop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► would have seen the number of requests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► going back and forth be much higher than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► on the alert and be like all right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► none of my test got this bug but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► really doing way more sinking traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► than i think it shouldn't have to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► what that is and for what it's worth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► protocol oriented design and Swift makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► a lot of this much easier just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► great you can come right all about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► can write on my swift code to that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► so when you are doing all these fixes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► you said a lot of it with server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► would you just deploy that crap live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► everywhere and just pray that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► deployments in general and then also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► these like red alert all hands on deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► sort of situations but i had to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► through code review first and then qai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► take away haha he had the inside officer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► management yeah has to go through legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► yeah well first i run my my arsenal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► yep I don't honestly know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► means I then have a stand-up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► would you stop answer the damn question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► webserver source code and when I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► know what I i have local development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► environment on my mac so I test things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► locally here relatively informally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► then I'm careful i know that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► terrible i apologize to everybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► yelling at me right now through their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► car speakers or whatever and then I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► to one of the servers that is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► like they like maintains the master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► check out and I do get pull on there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► then I have a deploy script from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► that are single the files to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► other servers that matter and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► script runs a few additional checks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► make sure things like I didn't commit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► PHP syntax error like a real refuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► push anything like that but it's fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► for the most part fairly rudimentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► preflight checks there and then it sinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► it and i watch logs and i watch stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► afterwards to see like tenting reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► errors anything jumping up and load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► no more anything that I measuring your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► way less than anything I measuring I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► measuring things like cache hit rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► performance database lag stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► so you're pulling service out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► no that's not a pc works literally just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► replace the files like life I know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► you're not you're not replacing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► no it doesn't matter what I kind of does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► no I I know what you're saying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► practice it doesn't matter really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► for the kind of things i'm doing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► four the speed at which these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► happening the way PHP manages it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► error rate like that happen from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► somebody getting a partially updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► check out it's enough to to usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► well at the traffic regular your normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► traffic rates yes but 10,000 requests a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► second the the number of requests to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► come in between the time the first file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► our sinks to a server in the last five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► hours think the server could be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► oh yeah well that's why I mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► 10,000 requests a second like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► know that that's when you develop better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► systems but my normal traffic level is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► like but a hundred remember you were at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► 10,000 requests and second even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► you're at all those were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► applications kept falling others just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► being a lesbian all right well anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► application server getting about 500 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► them is that the good thing about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► a truly disastrous scenario is like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► it's so broken now I can't possibly make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► and yeah basically it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► working at the least of my concerns is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► somebody hitting a web server actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► getting a response and having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► response be wrong because of these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► files at radisson are you know if I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► had 500 or something because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► it's a half updated source code or let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► that actually never happens like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► files are seemingly updated atomically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► or maybe PHP is smart about when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► likely pick them up fruit from it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► compiled cash i don't know he write unit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► tests this with a bunch of sleep call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► somewhere and induce this failure mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► added to your list and then he'll will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► freeze over yeah i mean i kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► like I i am fully aware that the proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► way to do these things are not the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► I'm doing them for meant for much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► this stuff you know the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► I think I'm pretty solid on things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► security privacy like that stuff I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► pretty sure i'm doing correctly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► as much as I possibly can but things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► like like this it's more kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► the the advanced software development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► proper methodology kind of stuff I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► play fast and loose with I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► part of that is because i never learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► any other way and I do regret never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► having worked in like a big software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► development organization that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► well-run I i never had that experience I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► only work in small places where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► were either just very few developers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► and so it's I never learned the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► fancy systems from anyone elses work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► environment and and I do regret that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► career-wise on some level that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► other set of pathology is associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► with those don't believe those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► actually I mean that's just a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► set of problems that come with the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► yeah so that's the main reason I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► do some of the more formalized honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► burn some stuff is because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► how anyone ever done it and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► secondary reason is because I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► see the need or the justification for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► the time as a as a one-person you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► basically part-time project that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► you know it's hard for me to justify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► spending a whole bunch of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► overhead and extra money on some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► stuff because it's like I can't afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► the time overhead for that and look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► know there's gonna be a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► who say well if you can't afford to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► it right you shouldn't do it all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► well would you rather overcast not exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► you know it's that's these are the kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► of decisions that I face and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► it's it you do what you can and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► what when you're when you're working for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► yourself on your own with a project that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► has fairly slim margins you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► hire anybody else like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► gotta make cuts somewhere and either the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► product doesn't ship or doesn't progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► or you know you maybe you don't write / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► unit tests or any but you know Horomia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► now I mean the good thing is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► the app i'm assuming since I was used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► during the time and didn't know say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► the app is resilient to the server being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► wonky for the most part you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► the set the failures behind-the-scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► to sink or whatever are not stopping you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► from listening to your podcast so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► some respects you have a grace period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► and protection against users you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► it's not as if you're at your service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► starts throwing errors on every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► person using overcast can't listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► the podcast and you're just not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► it manifests in fact so you won't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► see an error message unless you manually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► initiate a sink like if you do the pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► to refresh and that sink fails you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► see a box but if a routine think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► background fails you won't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► alright so I betting for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► stressful day for you they had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► this was going on unless they follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► overcast twitter account because as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► as they're concerned maybe if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► using multiple devices they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► noticed that it didn't sink or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► and got a little bit of a frowny face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► about your system but as long as once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► you fix it it got in sync again and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► didn't have to do anything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► you still got one leg up on like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► stubborn and ability to sync stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► we all complain about an iCloud messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► or whatever where there's nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► automatically writers I mean like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► know I've built i built all my sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► stuff to fully work in offline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► failure scenarios and ended to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► right thing as far as i know we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► if I ever tested but as far as i know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► does the right thing like this all comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► like when I made into paper that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► designed for offline use the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► was designed to be to have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► changes happen while offline and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► sink later at some point and have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► have it be correct and so I took that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► same ethos to overcast or like any state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► of connections coming up and down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► doing stuff offline doing stuff online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► it should always do the right thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► it gets a chance to connect again and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► you're right most people onto a like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► are on Twitter and stuff like I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► almost no support email about the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► problems and i got only a very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► handful of tweets most of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► saying why is it like it's being slow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► load this directory category or this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► know it was something slow to load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► something that dynamically fetched for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► the most part this mean that that's part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► of the reason why like why able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► overcast server stuff without massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► stress weighing on me all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► the capacity for that anymore i'm able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► to overcast level of it because if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► entire service goes down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► worst-case scenario everything goes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► kingdom lights up all of my devices with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► alerts for some reason that stays down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► most of my customers won't even know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► that's kind of freeing in a way not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► that I would let that happen but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► have to be in constant fear of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► that's interesting point by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► speaking of RSI that you were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► about 4y well I RSI tip from my longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► suffer many things contribute our side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► was talked about in the past one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► really big contributors surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► which people don't think about is stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► as and i'm not sure how much type in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► did Marco on that day but i would wager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► that it's probably not much more typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► that you did on a really productive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► coding day but if you are doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► typing frantically while stressed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► makes a big difference in terms of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► much information and then problems you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► get so we you because you'll be typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► harder because you'll be more prone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► you know whatever stress hormones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► inflammation being working when under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► pressure when you are stressed huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► in addition to the typical things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► talked about like how many keystrokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► did you type how long have you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► using the computer how many breaks if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► you're taking us all those happen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► you're stressed you tend to not take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► breaks everything like that but merely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► be active being stressed depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► contributing factor and I've always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► aware of that and the year since my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► worst flare-ups that like sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► just have to chill out like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► continue to work productively and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► breaks but while you're working you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► yourself like tensing up and all but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► know just all the muscles in your body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► telling that is terrible for most kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► of RSI yeah i mean and that was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► the case yesterday and today and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► usually don't feel that and that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► think you're right i mean that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► obviously very related to things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► back pain very very related and so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► also I'm pretty sure I'm getting sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► and whenever i'm getting sick the day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► two beforehand coffee stops working and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► I start getting our site ain't getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► does that mean it means like I no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► get like the the energy boost the lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► awakeness boost from the caffeine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► yeah but you can quit anytime don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► worry what if when you had mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► earlier that you were thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► when you said it kind of jokingly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► switching entirely to iCloud I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► kept up with some of them the more late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► breaking changes to iCloud in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► year or 2i I know that there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► amount of support for getting to user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► have you looked deeply or even slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► deeply into that to see like could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► still do the overcast web app with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► iCloud I know about as much as bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► what you just said but she's okay i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► JavaScript interface but basically it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► whatever your best you could do from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► server to i think yeah so they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► are ways that you can use cloudkit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► the from something that's not an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► I don't know anything more about it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► that and obviously if I decided to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► the first thing I would do would be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► look into that and you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► sure trade your personal stress for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► impotent rage of apples bugs that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► can't fix that you can't get them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► take seriously right but you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► it every level whenever you whenever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► outsource some amount of your apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► third-party service like that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► things break it's not usually your fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► it is your problem but there's often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► oftentimes the solution is just well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► guess we have to wait a few days for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► this to get better or we have to wait an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► hour for this thing to be up again or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► whatever if it becomes longer than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► if it's like we have to wait a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► that becomes a bigger problem for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► you know then that's kind of on you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► you should you move to something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► but something like like you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► mentioned hosted at linode I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► manage their switches and if they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► network outage for like five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► nothing to do about it so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► freeing in that way because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► well i just have to sit back and wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► for this to get fixed and you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► if it goes on for a while I might file a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► ticket just to make sure they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► know about it but in every instance they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► got it and it gets fixed a few minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► later so it's you know nothing of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► problem like this is like that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► it's like the web hosting continue on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► like you as you you can move up the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► abstractions and each one you go up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► know you get more things that are taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► out of your hands and then again they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► are still your problem but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► customers have your appt stop working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► they don't care if your web host is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► having a temporary switch outage they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► will go to you and they will say you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► down you are broken one star useless i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► want my money back plus damages etc you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► know them and the more you go up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► stack you are saving yourself work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► you're also adding more and more things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► to the giant list of things that are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► of your control and again it's a balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► for the most part that is freeing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► you do that but it does become a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► if the service you're on just starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► it's not just a temporary outage but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► they just take a turn or quality slips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► or they could decide to get acquiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► and shut down the service that you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► using or something like that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► because your problem i try to minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► ways in which things like that can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► problem for me by doing things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► know i'm just using standard Linux toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► my stuff and trying on VPS is but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► not doing anything fancy with the VPS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► and I could go to any other VPS or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► dedicated server host and run the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► same sort stack and with the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► servers and no changes really just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► moving servers over which is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► big of a deal i keep things in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► way that I i try to abstract away as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► much as i can so i don't have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► about the basics of things like power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► connectivity failed discs stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► that but i'm not going to go all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► to a service like App Engine or heroku [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► or there or even amazon web services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► honestly where things are so abstracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2613">TS</a>]
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00:43:41 ◼ ► storing files and stuff but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► easier to swap out of it sucks that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2624">TS</a>]
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00:43:59 ◼ ► turns an apple because all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2639">TS</a>]
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00:44:06 ◼ ► there's some person you can contact who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► will get back to you about whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► problem is maybe they won't solve it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► immediately or whatever but historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► speaking apple has not been up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► infrastructure service provider things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► in terms of all you know there's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► a support mechanism and a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► you can report problems and expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► speedy response and report bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► issues and get them resolved with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2669">TS</a>]
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00:44:34 ◼ ► football the poor gamecenter developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► and like I mean surely they are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► every possible mechanism to complain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► apple about their issues the game center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► that are causing their applications to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► hang or do weird things or have bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► not only they're not getting like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► ticket reply in five minutes and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► response in 24 hours or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► like these are just problems that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► festering for years on end and i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► idea there's any official channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► contact going back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► them but anyway Apple together I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► measuring out not so much the did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► wouldn't want to use one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► services but that Apple specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► they can highlight cloudkit and icloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► remember how good they maybe it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► doesn't seem like Apple set up to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► type of service provider like Amazon Web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► Services a heroic or whatever where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► those are entire businesses that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► about your developer we provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► service you can use our services and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► here's what you do and you can file bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► and track those bugs with system then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► again number perfectly have problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► you know all the trails you just talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► about but apple just seems so far from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► from having even the basic sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► third-party web services provider like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► Microsoft Azure or whatever even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► they may have the tech stuff I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► they don't have the discipline of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► whatever you call that the surrounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► infrastructure behind the tech the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► people the service the tracking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► transparency all the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► would want in any service like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► yeah i mean the reason that i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► consider iCloud first of all like iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► is an umbrella term that covers lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► different things and the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► oftentimes are not related and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► reliabilities and reputations and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► kind of general suit abilities for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► certain tasks cloudkit which is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► what I would be moving to if I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► it you know III don't know a lot of big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► users of it but the the the bit i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► heard so far is that it is somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► limited but what it does it does very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► well and it tends to work and i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► don't think a lot of people that i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► having trouble having trouble without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► get the way they did with things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► iCloud core data sync was always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► key-value store sometimes get messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► a little bit or something like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► for the most part people think cloudkit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► is pretty good for what it does as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► technologies they released but that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► the question is not nothing is perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► the question is if something goes wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► cloud cover your suspicious or you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► like you don't have visibility into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► something something you can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► whether it's your problem or their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► problem or its down for a while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► do you have any hope of getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► result or is it just like well I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► sit here and wait importantly and either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► right and there's all sorts of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► problematic with cloudkit as well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► know I mean you're totally right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► like generally speaking the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► relationship that Apple has with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► public with developers is in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► completely the opposite kind of approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► and attitude and openness that you then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► within what you want from your web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► services provider you know that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► really especially the developer it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► really like you want companies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► transparent and that that are constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► iterating and make things better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► that have stowed only a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► solid reputation for web services and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► and in things like that and an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► just isn't isn't those things that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► the way they operate cloudkit also bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► the the second problem of tying your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► overcast data to your devices currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► logged in iCloud account which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► so I mean even in my house like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► tips ipad pro has the best speakers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► any type of any iOS device in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► because the ipad pro speakers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► awesome so we have this ipad pro signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► into my overcast account and in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► other way it's tips ipad but it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► of my overcast account because we use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► mobile speaker to play podcast out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► together if I moved cloudkit then we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► have to either sign that entire ipad out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► of iCloud so that it would have so kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► of my account instead of her account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► even has all of her apps and her email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► like everything else heard the ipad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► solution Apple wants us to do or switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► to listening to her overcast account for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► anything we listen to that lab which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► you know kind of clunky solution so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► know there's there's problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► trying to ipod there's also the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► advantage the whole reason i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► consider using cloudkit is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► now I'm kind of using iCloud key value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► pronunciation of clued believe is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► right now i'm using this Kluge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► key-value store along with a server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► saying to check and occasional push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► notifications to try to trigger like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► somewhat real-time connection kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► thing to to sink things quickly to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► other another way to do that would be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► have a persistent connection whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► the app is running you know kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► kind of like a chat like where you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► an open socket and you know you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► very fast that server can tell you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► soon as it gets things the main reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2975">TS</a>]
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00:49:40 ◼ ► for server-side and I could you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► could become setup for server-side but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► that's just it's another infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► of thing i have to set up and maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► and and and learn all the ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► fails and be the bigger reason is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► i'm a little concerned about battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► usage on the device apple maintains one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► of those connections for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► device that's what I cloud use that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► what push notifications use there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► already a persistent connection to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► device that Apple's maintaining for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► so if i move to my cloud based solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► i would be using the connection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► already there so the the battery penalty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► would be either minimal or non-existent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► did you know that for a fact that cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► kid uses the an open connection i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► thought it would have been doing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► demand I'm insured you know s manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► coalescing of requests only opening the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► connection to whatever but isn't it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► constantly open and I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► maybe only for push notifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3031">TS</a>]
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00:50:38 ◼ ► doesn't talk about it right and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3038">TS</a>]
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00:50:49 ◼ ► notification that wasn't a a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► only push that was a silent content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► available push that woke up the apt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► here's a new episode to download the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► receives a notification from the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► checks locally with preferences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► whether to send that to you while it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3063">TS</a>]
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00:51:26 ◼ ► receives reliably in USA an hour or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3086">TS</a>]
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00:51:48 ◼ ► believe has special privileges and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3108">TS</a>]
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00:52:03 ◼ ► well and reliably that it might be worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3123">TS</a>]
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00:53:12 ◼ ► to do the crazy thing of like just give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► us access to your local database I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► just gonna make it sink and we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► to make that work that could never work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► like things are not things are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► complicated than that it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► Apple did a bad job of implementing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► it's at the entire idea was deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► flawed from the start that was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► cloudkit the reason why people like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3211">TS</a>]
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00:53:41 ◼ ► notifies you when changes then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► locally in the app do things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3223">TS</a>]
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00:53:47 ◼ ► your own infinite loop yet exactly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► like you're still riding the hard stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► you're just not running the servers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► like you're still riding all the tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► complex sink logic in the app and thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3236">TS</a>]
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00:54:08 ◼ ► like if there was thinking wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► hard if you use iCloud if you use iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► cloudkit chance i would imagine there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► some chance that you would actually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► have noticed as infinite loop bug for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► it's very possible surely they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► this you know server capacity like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► surge server capacity to sort of eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► that and you know maybe someone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► have contacted you or maybe your usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► would have been throttled or you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► have gone into those weird-ass tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► for their like you have a certain number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► of amount of data number of requests and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► if you exceed that like call us or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3278">TS</a>]
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00:54:46 ◼ ► like whoa my servers are dying but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► apples probably wouldn't die but things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3288">TS</a>]
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00:57:48 ◼ ► traffic coming from these days i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► tried various times to just not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► twitter apps installed it all on my on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► my desktop it ends up just not working i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► tried i can only use it on my phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► only using it like on a laptop that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► keep you know off to the side that is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► main computer i tried all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► stupid things like that and they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► stick because there because the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► semi-regular basis for my job as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► for enjoyment in life by far the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► efficient way for me to use twitter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► like I i I'm so fast that i can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► multitasking quick environment is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► so if i'm going to be using Twitter for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► work it should be on the mac and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► should be on my primary Mac that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► how it works for me it most efficiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► the question is how do I manage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► without spending so much time on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► all the time not ever getting any work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► self-control but i don't have enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► that when it comes to this so we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► start building access tools like four to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► solve many people self-control issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► and other things like this is what we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► right this is we try to have her and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3538">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► to build self-control replacement tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► for this assistance tools and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► started seeing this was a problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► twitter because i use the app called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► rescue time which is basically a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► appt time tracking app it's in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► menubar and it's either web service was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► a little bit creepy little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► worried about that but it's your menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► choose what apps you're using and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► times it and it categorizes things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► you know work for this entertainment vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► whatever and then every week it emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► you a report saying this week you worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► on your computer's 4x hours and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► spent six hours in Xcode 5 hours and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► logic for hours and adobe audition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► then like every week I was also seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► in four hours in tweet pot and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► that's a lot of time spent sweet pot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► started to add up over about a year I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► comfortable like that I need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► something about this because i kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► thinking I could feel like I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3598">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► thinking I could feel like I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► effectively and get more done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► everything begins email saying hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► you're using Twitter you use twitter for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► oh my god and then slap came around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► made problem even worse because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► slack slack is even worse for blending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► work and distraction because it's made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► for work communication it and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► easy to just become like a constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► constant like peppering all day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► anyway this is all I started seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► slack you know bubble up in the list as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► well and then all the sudden spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► like six hours a day on slack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► Twitter combined not a day six hours a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► week on like second Twitter and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► just it started becoming so many hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► and just like my god this is like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► is eating into all my productivity six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► this is this is terrible i have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► about this is as if you want to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► specialist but i did was i I basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► get wrote an apple script is scheduled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► it with launch d every 10 minutes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► Tweetbot the active app right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► if not quit the app and same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► slack slack is the active app right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► keep it otherwise kill it and that ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► up being way too aggressive for slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► because i do use slack oftentimes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► work purposes in fact the majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► the time using seconds for work purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► actually so that like I I couldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► slack be just quick constantly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► because the way this work to it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► it was just checking every 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► and saying are you active right now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► not quit so oftentimes you'd be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► click on slack type something switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► to another window and two seconds later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► slide disappears typically ok this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► kind of unfortunate but same thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► know Twitter everything's ate it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► just it was a little bit too dumb of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► solution recently I'm i started making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► mac app called Twitter and it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► menu bar and because a native app has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► way better way to do this rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► just like constantly pulling to see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► what's the active app right now is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► this quit you can actually observe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► current workspace and you can eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► involved you get notified when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► active window or the application changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► and so that now I'm able to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► way more efficiently and way smarter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► watch for changes and for the list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► apps that you want to quit after certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► not every 10 minutes checking to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► immediately but it can start the timer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► when you click away from the app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► then after a certain time where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► don't click back to the app then it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► fire the timer and quit them or also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► building out the option to hide them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► slack because for me it's more efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► for the amount of slack so basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► mac app version of this is way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► it also isn't an apple script that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► to have a launch d command-line process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► to register and register it so it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► a lot more friendly for other people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► use and for me to distribute as a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► people use the effect of running this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► app is it really does work it for me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► have because I've been measuring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► rescue time like i've been i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► using first that script and then a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► weeks ago switching to this app using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► this for a while now and i have seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► reliable drop in my usage hours as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► reported rescuetime of of these social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► apps that I'm i keep forcibly quitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► it also has the the interesting effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► we had like it just makes Twitter's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► seem unreliable like it's the effect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► basically it seems like tweet budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► scratches every few minutes so it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► of keeps it a little bit and check for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► me it's not this thing that's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► there like there's never there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► always a new thing could be looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► also critically I said it so that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► apps are not in my doc you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► running so that when they get force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► they're just gone there they're out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► sight out of mind like you have to then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► explicitly think oh I want to go check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► twitter now and so what I'm able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► not only has has a total amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► spent in these apps dropped noticeably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► probably by at least fifty percent if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► can guess but i'm also finding that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► productive spans because that was where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► where these apps really hurt is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► that like constant peppering of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► minute every 30 seconds or something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► to look at you constantly context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► switching back and forth both you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► technically and mentally or context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► district destroys any kind of meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► productivity i'm having on things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► coding or editing the podcast or writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► these things that just like I was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► such a hard time staying focused on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► work when these things just kept coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► in on like a back our windows just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► something new to read not reply dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► it's like things were being funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► now these apps are so frequently just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► removed from view that I'm able to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► these long productive spans where I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► like code for three hours straight for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► our straight i can write an entire blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► post and then open up Twitter after our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► publish it to go promote it it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► really has changed the way I work a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► and it also gave me an excuse to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► how to write stuff for the Mac because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► really i've had a few little like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► know apps for myself or toy apps or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► you know kind of half-butted apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► were not all releasable but for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/3929">TS</a>]
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01:34:08 ◼ ► original artists but it does Commission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5648">TS</a>]
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01:34:31 ◼ ► stuff and and music stuff that exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5671">TS</a>]
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01:35:26 ◼ ► about getting into that kind of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5726">TS</a>]
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01:35:50 ◼ ► could have watched on amazon streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5750">TS</a>]
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01:35:54 ◼ ► streaming you know just like the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► that everybody has their the movies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► everybody has but you kind of get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5757">TS</a>]
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01:36:02 ◼ ► go-to for like where's his movie stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5762">TS</a>]
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01:36:06 ◼ ► think about Amazon tangentially but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► original content is what property to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► television but if i didn't i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► definitely pay for HBO now to see Game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► of Thrones just for that one show i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► no idea what the hell else you know I or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5778">TS</a>]
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01:36:23 ◼ ► original content is a huge driver though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► it still remains a question whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► Apple has to be in the content business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5787">TS</a>]
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01:36:31 ◼ ► apps for all the services we just listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5791">TS</a>]
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01:36:48 ◼ ► will buy an Apple TV but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5808">TS</a>]
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01:37:13 ◼ ► buying a hundred fifty dollar apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/5833">TS</a>]
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01:50:05 ◼ ► macbook so she had long since removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6605">TS</a>]
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01:50:09 ◼ ► could wipe everything on it she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6609">TS</a>]
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01:50:13 ◼ ► something evil shoved into her dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6613">TS</a>]
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01:50:23 ◼ ► figured out that it was bad that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► person did disconnected the disconnect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► after installing the ransomware botnet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► maybe maybe there was a one or two day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► the rootkit thing or the keylogger where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► the whole house was going on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/6637">TS</a>]
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01:57:29 ◼ ► them as part of the show that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► come to love the sounds and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/7051">TS</a>]
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01:59:52 ◼ ► use these computers but the now I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/7192">TS</a>]
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02:00:13 ◼ ► worked up for the sake of getting we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► getting worked up and/or because jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTdfwaY/7215">TS</a>]
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