00:00:00 ◼ ► yeah where's John why do we not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► John I'm working on it and I don't can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► go to connect yet might be just you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► me my god can you imagine the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► what do you think they would hate more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/11">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► two hours of fish or the show without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► John probably the show without John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► think they would prefer the two hours of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/18">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► oh hi John what would you think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► would dislike more wood people dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► hearing fish for two hours more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► hearing the show without you or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/35">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► people dislike hearing the show without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/39">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► you and prefer to hear fish for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► hours i think they would prefer to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/42">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► concluded that the internet would find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► in some smite smoke Marcone I different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► if you are not here I think about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► don't really hear any fish because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► I never listen to the live string but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/62">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► the few moments I remember hearing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► it's like some terrible rights like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► they play guitars and bass and drums and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/67">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► you know and then someone says something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/71">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► for like 22 seconds in the middle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► then if you even if you don't like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► like you're making people listen to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► know scream music for someone that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/79">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► don't know that I think we'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► people like fish than like us it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/86">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► it is currently the 13th of April it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► a wednesday night we just released this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► week's episode or Marco did a few hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► ago but because John is disappearing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► a little bit we are going to be where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► are obviously recording right now so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► expect that Apple by Nintendo on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► fourteenth of april and we won't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► chance to talk about it until I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► the 22nd which is the next time we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► recording so expect all the the juicy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► and interesting things to happen over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► you're welcome I mean at least my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► that's true actually completely forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► about that yeah they hit the tussle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► come at me haters yeah i had i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/134">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► don't really regret not getting the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► yesterday and my car is something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► two-and-a-half weeks old but the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► I think overall is probably better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► know that it has better headlights it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► has has a center console which I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/154">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► like buy separate third-party center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► console shoving their it comes with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► I didn't realize it was third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► yeah well the day they had a first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► there but the reviews are terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► so they stop selling it so you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► there's a couple of minor improvements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► but nothing that really makes me unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► that i bought you know two-and-a-half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► rather than today yeah the the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/177">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► kind of grill fascia area just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► dig it and a lot of people are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/186">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► after me and you know kind of rightfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► so and say oh well you're just judging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/191">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► it because it doesn't look like an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► look it doesn't look like something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► that blows up old plants and dinosaurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/197">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► and you're just being a stupid old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► and yeah you know that might be guilty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► as charged and maybe in a few years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► won't need to see a grill up front but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► sitting here today I just don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► it's pretty and somebody had tweeted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/212">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► tweeted and it's been making the rounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► endlessly the picture of Keanu Reeves as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/219">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► mr. Anderson and wenwen in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► movie they his his lips disappear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► his face just is it you know it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► kind of one big flat area and and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► a very very similar likeness to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► updated tesla model s and in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/240">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► model 3 as well and the X because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► the Dalai basically this all started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► with the ex that's true forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► I mean ultimately i don't i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► it's really going to be that big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► deal i think it's more just like we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► designed this way and that's why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► looks weird because it's unfamiliar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/260">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► exactly a few months you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► everything everyone's gonna be like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► that's just how cars look sometimes no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► we talked about this last week just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/270">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► you forgot everything we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/271">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► the problem that the model 3 was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/272">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► sewing shot disappearing matrix thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► was going around because the model 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/280">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► what we've seen of it anyway because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► and who knows what's final but we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/283">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► seen the model 3 is there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► there there's no dividing line different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► color patch different material it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► just one continuous schnoz and as as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/291">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► talked about last week like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► it's not so much that uh that we demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/300">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► to have a grill right it's that the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► looks like it has a place where grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► should go like the they haven't fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► embraced the idea that they don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► to pull air into that spot they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► built the car with a spot where grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► would go but just neglected to put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► the same reason to face looks weird with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/319">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► a big smooth thought where the mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► should go because we know that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/322">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► the mouth goes if you want to draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► something that doesn't have a mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► don't draw the place where the mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► goes and then just erase it right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/327">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► the x and the add the US they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► grill they have a little t-shape thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► which i think is pretty good for Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► tu every brand has some sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/336">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► signature grille shape that they go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► me change it over the years but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► how he's got that big sort of big mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► trapezoid thing they go with well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► does look a little bit like a creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► partial mustache like the skinny stash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► you know it looks like it looks a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/348">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► BMW has the kidneys so that is a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► what other brands have changed their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/357">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► shape over the years and sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► stick with it for like three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/360">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► models generations and they go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► different shape anyway this texting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/363">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► thing with the little tea with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/364">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► that's fine it's kind of like a grill I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► have to see this one in person because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► from some angles the little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► mustache they have their devices as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► as I'm concerned usually because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► put a place for the grill and they put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► grill and I made that basically is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/381">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► girl's not a big grill but at the grill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► like why else have a big like opening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► internal combustion engine guards have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► won the model 3 has the same place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► that thing to go but there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/391">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► there so it looks weird and like i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► last show if they if they want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► with the no girl in the front because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► they can find go for it embrace it make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► it look but make it look like a car that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► never had a grill was never intended to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► have a grill and the kind of candidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► with my last because they decided with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► markers car to put a big giant ball gag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/412">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► thing there it looks like a big black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► grille but it's just a clear plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► like someone shoved a rubber ball into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► the mouth of the car and some more oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/419">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► but that but that you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/420">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► made the decision you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/425">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► reshape the whole car the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► the factor is a pedestrian safety and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► crash standards probably dictate at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► very least the minimum height of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► front of the car so you can't really go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► whole hog into a style that totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► neglects the grill so I'm not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/437">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► sure what to do to resolve this but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► know the answer is not with the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► did which is make a car with a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/442">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► a grill and just failed to put one there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► yeah the side view i'm looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► post on Jalopnik will have the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► notes the if you look at it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► side of the card actually doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► bad at all but any sort of front angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► just looks it's just this this this vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► emptiness and it just i agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► John be it looks like a grill belongs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► there is an American isn't there and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► think i prefer this to the audi I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► swallow the world grill that's become so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► trendy for audi these days which is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/472">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► awful or the new Lexus ones too and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► didn't look santoyo you're right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► you're like says the bowtie shape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► it's kind of like a ghost got its that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► yeah it's like the entire front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/485">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► if they use all that space but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► talking about you're still saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/493">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► don't like this because KCBS has a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/494">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► yeah see that's just it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► doesn't fill the area i see there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► big expanse under the you feel like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► place where more able to go in there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► exactly and they actually exaggerate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► because if you look they actually extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► down like the things around the fog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/509">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► farther making room even more room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► the non-existing grill yep exactly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► just don't care for it anyway I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► looks fine and once I see them in person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► which you know should be any day now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► soon as it's dark silent because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► all over here to the render judgment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► seeing in person but I think it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► yeah it does look better than the 3i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► think so too and I think of all they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► like including agent if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/534">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► x and yes and the three together I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► it looks the best out of all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► them out of the current the current ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► they're producing although one concern I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/541">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► have for all three of them is that front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/542">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► area that is that his body color is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► going to get full of bugs and chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► oh good point you know like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► that's always the most damaged area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► any car i have because always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► covered just put a bra on it but God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/557">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► yeah we going back to this God anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/561">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► i agree i understand that this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/566">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► look normal to me but today I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/571">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► alright so let's not talk about Teslas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► anymore and let's start to follow up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► our first follow-up items let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► about Teslas and chargers and charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► it bite now you're wrong instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► this is another thing but also that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► was also right about this last show we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► just didn't get a chance to pull them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/594">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► meant to do it but we had moved on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► that in the discussion about how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► supercharger stations there are verses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► how many gas stations and factoring how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► long it takes to charge and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► other infrastructure needed if we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► to convert all the existing cars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► electric with a snap of our fingers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► so on so forth on point we didn't bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► up but again with the chatroom did was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► that even though superchargers take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► long time to charge you can get you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► fill up your electric car someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► other than the quotable gas station in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► when you drive it back to your house you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/624">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► just plug it in and a lot of people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► saying that it is long as you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/627">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► drive more than half the range of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► car per day you never need to go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► supercharger unless you're going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► supercharged be just when you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► home you plug it in and I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► about this when I was discussing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► charges thing last time hand it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► of in the middle because I mean all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► Marco can tell us but like I recall him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► saying somewhere and Twitter that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► takes like three days to charge his car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/653">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► to full capacity from the plain old wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► yes so if you have if you only have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/657">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► plan a while it's about three days for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► full charge but if you're spending this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► much on a car I I don't think it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► much to ask to spend another few hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► two at most a couple thousand dollars to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/667">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► high-powered outlet in your garage if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► you have a 50-amp outlet the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► 40-50 that Tesla recommends that charges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► the entire car in something like seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/678">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► hours depending on how big a battery you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► have so if you're buying a 70 or 80,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► 35,000 the car maybe but as these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/684">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► come down in price like basically i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► would say if you're asking people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► change their home in some way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► basically become like a little charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► infrastructure you don't have to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► gas stations but every single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/697">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► when these cars has to always have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/698">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► dryer outlet in their garage or by one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► of the big super tired things whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/702">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► just fine like you said four people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► well not every person like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► underscore friends pretty smooth he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► still seen he bought the car like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► December he's still just only has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► the regular outlet and he just he drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► a few enough miles on it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► this is taking a trip which case using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► superchargers so and right now I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► have that too because electricians in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► New York take a while to get back to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► so I still have the plane out as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/724">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► because I just I'm not driving hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► problem i was driving like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► so what I'm getting at is like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► not that math is not as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► drive half the range it's more like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► whatever and the other thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► since these are the first round of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/743">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► compete with gas cars that have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► range as a as a long-range gas car but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► they're close enough that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► this is not like the leaf where it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► need to be a very short-range car i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/756">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► electric cars will go up as batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► become cheaper not maybe not that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► maybe they'll stop around a 300-mile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/765">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► range like an easy 300-mile range for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► everybody and so that will just only add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/768">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► to charge in time so it seems like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► necessary part of the infrastructure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► the electric car world is every home to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► battery doesn't mean you need to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► three-thousand-dollar thing or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► probably just actually dryer outlet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► since most people i would imagine go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► away less than a third of the range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► their electric car or even a quarter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► probably find that will definitely save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/793">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► superchargers needed the flip side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► that though is the places that need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► superchargers are going to need a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/799">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► there's nobody else in the entire world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► everybody stopping somewhere along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/805">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► Interstate not even if they're all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/807">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► cars were electric no one is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► across New York State you know you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► stopped for gas somewhere if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► going from like you know Boston to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► buffalo or something and it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► giant corridor of a bunch of cars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► need to do that and they're used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► pulling off one of the service station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► is getting guess you know and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► continuing on and if it takes you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► just 15 minutes that's gonna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► you're gonna have big backups and snarls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► as you can tell if anything it all goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► wrong at any of the total stations along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► the way that you could sit in traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/833">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► for hours and hours so it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► thoroughfares and then in suburban areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► maybe you can have one that covers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► tremendous area because only people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► passing through needed everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/844">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► discharges of their house also i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► another another major problem to tackle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► is that if you don't have a house with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► garage or a permanent parking spot and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► it's kind of impractical to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/856">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► electric car because you have like a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► so many people live in apartments or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► play in you know street parking only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► areas where you're parking your car in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► the street overnight you don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/866">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► driver you don't you don't have a garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► regular basis out there that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► trickier to solve I think that inductive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► charging mat to drive your car over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/878">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► they'll just put them on those put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/882">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► on the road when they're putting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/883">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► little sense for this automated cars all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/884">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► Marco what's the nearest supercharger to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► you in terms of distance how I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► know I mean there's one in newburgh but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► that's which is pretty far I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► not like you know what direction I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► headed is the more relevant question I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► going upstate the closest one is nubert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► which is something like a half-hour up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/901">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► for an hour up from going you know into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/902">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► Pennsylvania New Jersey area that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► sure it's a different one from going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/908">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► through Connecticut there's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/909">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► there's proof there's a couple over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/910">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► there so depending on where i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► really yeah the reason I'm asking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► like I see there's one in Greenwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/916">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► Connecticut which looks to my I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► it's pretty close to you yes very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► there's one in paramus new jersey which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/921">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► also looks fairly low so it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► ranch is probably closer it is i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► any way the what I'm driving at though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/926">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► anything to the home and you only have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► regular outlet in you you would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► charge of the span of three days in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/937">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► desperation scenario you could drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► what to my eye looks like half an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► last to say greenwich and you could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► the supercharger there and drive back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► that that's what like probably 20-30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► miles maybe maybe a little more maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► little less and that would in a pinch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► solve the problem as long as you had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► hour to spare right to go charge i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/957">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► always have an hour for graphics have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► amazing watch stores therein a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/962">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► lunch place how's the chicken salad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/963">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► you haven't had that you had better not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► let anybody see what I'm driving at is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/969">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► maybe you can maybe you can avoid doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► the home modification until the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► time you do you know demo on the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► which for you seems to be a every couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/978">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► my-my circuit breaker panel is full and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► so the electrician's quoting me a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► thousand dollars to to do like AI don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► need a panel okay but I need a sub panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► and then once you throw in the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► all the local permits and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/995">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► everything it's probably going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/999">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► maybe two or three thousand dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► ended that does make you positive mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► isn't really am I really ever going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► need that necessarily compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► regular Alan and I might not when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► interesting you know I I find this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► fascinating i don't suspect that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► going to have an electric car anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► not necessarily from lack of desire but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► today don't really do it for me or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► absorbent Lee expensive or are the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► 3 that that even if I reserve one now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► won't get in till declan's graduating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► college so I don't suspect i'm gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► a an electric car anytime soon but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► fascinated by all the differences in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► different thoughts and concerns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► worries that one has like should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► modify my home in order to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► charging this quicker that it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► different than what I'm used to thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► interesting I mean and in all fairness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► the modification to your home if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► home is at all modern or new or has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► modern electric service in it is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► very minimal it's usually a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► hundred dollars to have an electrician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► install a high power outlet usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► really close to where breaker was anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► because so many breakers are in garages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► so it's you know for for most homes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► there in the country that are fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► I think you I think it would be a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► inexpensive modification and most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► i don't think really think too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► yeah alright moving on well sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► John you want to tell us about this next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► item yes bhai primary look up what sa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► stands for but one of you and or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► superchargers also brought up by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► chatroom also related to sae which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► connected standards tehsils apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► got its own connector let's go like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► two little visibility shape and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► i remember that like kind of a branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► theme but anyway I think there's four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► Automotive Engineers SI stands for they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► have a standard connector for electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► cars which is not the same as the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► connector so I mean we'll see how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► works out in terms of you know adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► don't seem like it's rocket science if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► you have any kind of station that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► provide electricity to cars obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► supercharger stations they don't care if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► you can charge anyone elses car there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► think but they see no reason why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► couldn't I feel like that will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► itself out if it turns out the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► built a million supercharger stations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► before anybody build anything guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► the standard connector is tesla's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► this as a standard but speaking as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► measurement system for self-driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► which why wouldn't because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► sitting around all day trying all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► standard Google self-driving cars but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► can make up standards for things don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► automation and five is full automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► and they divided into two regions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► three each because they start from zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► because the program is 0 1 and 2 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► human driver monitors driving gateway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► basically and there needs to be a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► everything and three four and five is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► automated driving system monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► driving environment didn't read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► entire PDF so I'm not quite sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► break it down much farther but again my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► criteria is do i need to know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► drive a car to get into this car guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► you can do it simpler as do i get sit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► the backseat because I falls down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► same thing if you get to sit at the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► seat and no one is in the front seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► that's complete self driving car right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► right can I fall asleep if you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► sit in the front seat and have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► how to drive a car because you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► called upon to do so you're still in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► lower range that's that's really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► battery that I care but it's good this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► the Society of Automotive Engineers has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► decided to come up with a scale for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► and I wonder where they would I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► guess I guess I your Tesla's onto which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► they call partial automation like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► automation driver assistance partial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► automation conditional automation hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► automation four-dimensional standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► watching for sae numbers to be quoted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► your cars just like the sae engine power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► ratings that no-one rates except you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► mmm alright John do you think and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► this is robin malhotra that's asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► asked us this do you think john that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► autonomous vehicles will come first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► definition just laid out as and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► sit in the backseat and don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► drive apples file system will come first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► easily i tend to agree but you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► really know all right Cameron palm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► has written in and made some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► points about the Amazon echo and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► amazon in general he or she has said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► well I'm sure Amazon echo and ash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► buttons are interesting products are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► couple of key issues number-one amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► is a us thing it works the US because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► cheap shipping it doesn't work / exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► in most of the world including including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► Europe not in the US cents the echo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► wish Cirie on the other hand and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► she provides a link is available in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► many many places and there's a link that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► will put the show notes for future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► availability for Siri this happens a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► when we bring up things I figured maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► netflix was another one a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► that we don't realize our us-centric or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► so if there are other people listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► in the US and who are just thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► apparently allow the stuff amazon does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► is really confined to the u.s. in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► that you would wouldn't imagine it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► be like is there anything specific about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1318">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► the echo that has to be so us seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► they can make one for other kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► other countries right maybe they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► don't have enough server farms over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► there that have the expertise to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► the translation and the detection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► different language was either way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► always seemed kinda weird to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► such a big company like Amazon seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► have such grand ambitions with the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► you know easy to and s3 and selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► things all over the world that mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► can understand maybe not being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► sell physical goods all over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► but for all their electronic products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► and network services they should expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► more well and I think this is a I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► what we're seeing here a strategy tax at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► amazon which is the the echo does lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► of things that don't use their services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► their their storefronts at all and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► depend on the store friends at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► one of the main reasons that all amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► hardware exists is to get you to to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► more content or media or stuff from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► Amazon and so I bet they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► even bother supporting it in countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► and languages where they they also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► have widespread store coverage for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► stores and Amazon is historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► storefronts so that's that's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► the reason the main reason why is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► had the echo couldn't do like half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► things that amazon wants it to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► no maybe about like you have to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► think like long-term let everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► like an Amazon is such a long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► thinking company meaning that they see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► was making spaceships and stuff so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► term if you are a China if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► selling in China you've got a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► problem because China has a lot of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► Indian but i'm not trying to India guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► what they have a lot of people and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► people are in many cases crawling up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► the income class where they can buy your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► products like that those countries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► not developing countries they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► developed like you know they're entering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► the middle class type of thing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► electronics right and it's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► faster and faster like if you no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► how I put it this way if you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► have amazon gets one hundred percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► the market for physical goods in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► United States if you just fast-forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► enough years the whoever gets a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► percent of the market in China India is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► going to gobble them up because having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► meaningless when when they get billions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► yep alright who wants to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► ubiquity zeit port power over ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► switch probably Margo our first sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► this week we're really going to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► but I am briefly God sponsor you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► our first sponsor this week is net.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► this is a new sponsor its net and I am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► pronouncing that right mah man me I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► never actually said this word yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► have to sound more apathetic me you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► it that's better that's better so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► dot-com that these are the people long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► ago they found a site called woot.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► and what was like a one thing a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► daily deal kind of sight and the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► were like things that appeal to geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► so it was you know a cheap crappy little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► hard like whatever I was saying last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► week and the week before like just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► blown away by how cheap hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► these days and it especially cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► nothing if you get it from place like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► math day so what they do is one deal a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► day and this is how Amazon wounded so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► amazon bought woot forever ago the team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► eventually got fed up because Amazon was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► they were there like made instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► oh now there's a whole bunch of deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► until it's kind of just amazon at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► point I kind of lost its personality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► kind of also made a special so they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► all happy with this they just left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► they went and founded a company called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► mediocre labs which I love and they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► this site called net and i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► attitude at this site if you read their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► copy this is like the best copywriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► for trying to just barely sell a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► for this ad there's no coupon code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► there's no tracking URL i was given no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► script they just said just wing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► monster daring fireball a lot you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► sponsoring like that the way they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► it was supposed to be written like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1558">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► almost seems like wait who's the sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► you do they like hide the link they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► they do like fun kind of like working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► obviously like laid-back people who know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► that they are selling really cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► hardware and it's like surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► cheap so today that the one there today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► is it looks kind of like an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► shape but it's actually a speaker that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► goes on your wrist it looks it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► who would wear this and they even say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► like who would wear this and it's eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► dollars and that's it and it changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► everyday changes at midnight at once the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► things sell out there is gone that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► there's no like advanced notice of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► eight tomorrow we're gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► Chromebook or whatever and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► they you know so they have all this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► awesome like cheap crappy hardware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► you can't believe it's that cheap and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► has anything that works and they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► sometimes have good stuff like they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► they had last week they had a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► impressive home theater receiver that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► those 3d sandwich I don't know the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► until I read their site they had apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► watch on there before the apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► sport on there a few weeks back a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► they have some really nice stuff as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► I love their copywriting more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► anything else i love how they sell these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► products just barely the attitude is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► it's that you can like sign up to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► a special member which is the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► mediocre person VMP and VIP has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► sorts of little benefit you can get here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► check it out its mat.com neh dot-com man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► that's that's pretty much spot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► ok but i feel like i need more facial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► no you just need a lot of indifference a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► just you need to be overflowing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► indifference it's this is a hard every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► it's not this time I i love i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► way these people do business so check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► netcom thanks for sponsoring me there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► go that's how I supposed to say it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► 8-port power over ethernet switch ion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► right edge of my seat i'm so excited but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► last week I was talking about me trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► to find just a simple eight parts which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► that has no fantasy island is reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► and you know just sits there i did my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► other required by the way is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► power and the ports be on the same side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► just because of the way i have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► very switches arranged it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► annoying to have the kind that are meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► to be in Iraq where the ports on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► front but the power comes in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► arrangement for things that are sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► on the edge of a table or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► anyway and Mark out brought up in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► to his a the PHP thing that he likes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► actually have I say the bookmark about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► next time anybody going to give that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► to try i still have a couple of extras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► at home and waiting for them to die once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► they die i'll try that one also if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► just need one big one I actually used I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► forgot to mention i actually use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► rackmount HP switch in my garage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► has it because that 18 we had a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► renovations done I i had the house wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► for ethernet so I have something like 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► or 1215 ports that i'll go into this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► HP I think it's an 18-10 something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► that so that's probably something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► some kind of get gigabit HP semi managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► or unmanaged switch it was a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► hundred dollars and that's also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► rock solid I've never liked rebooted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► that never had a port die never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► yeah if I had in my garage in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► basement or someplace like that i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► just get a big rack mount one just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► it where the heck I wanted into care as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► unfortunately do the way I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► wires running i have lots of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► little ones around having a poor one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► my TV have any port one of the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► room everyday part one next to mine ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► and stuff downstairs and so this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► bunch of these little ones many of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► are in spaces where people have to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► i have to be quiet so the HP one its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► fanless if it's reliable and i'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► it a try that sounds good but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► surprised that marker didn't suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► ubiquity because we talk about ubiquity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► harbor last week and you're saying how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► much you love do they make an eight port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► switch to in our technical actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► reviewed it recently and it looks weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► an enterprising and ubiquity and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► like that but like a well it's solid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► reliable is exactly what you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► for right this is a family's one there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► I has a bunch of fancy features that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► not interested in like the you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► traffic shaping and you know management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► and all sorts of other stuff but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► course it's two hundred dollars so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► pretty much know that once I saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► price not completely unwilling to pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► lot of casino most of the time was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► all right well if this is a good one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► it's reliable pay money but just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► just so much more than like the 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► and used to think and I was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► you get fined fifty dollar switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► you're gonna get a crappy one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► they're gonna make noise and go dead or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► whatever but the thing is I had these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► dealing switches that were attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► and reliable for a really long time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► six years seven years maybe it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► be longer that's at least eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► that's all making mac is and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► happened before that how I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► you know maybe i just got lucky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► found like it but I think about like $35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► like eight years ago I just want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► again eight years of hard dollars is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► much better than you know how long would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► it 200 daughter thing need to ask anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► i think i am not in the market for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► ubiquitous witches but who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► I'll get burned by enough three boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► that i will regret not buying this fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► managed a port switch from the fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► yeah and also you know a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► following ubiquity before we leave so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► start getting email about it apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► ubiquity also sells IP cameras and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► did look very briefly into those but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► amazon didn't talk a lot of them looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► like they're transition model into a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► everywhere right now so I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► dismissed it so that's why I look into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► that they're also a little more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► and also a few people rode in to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► that they also now have I was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► annoying java 8 wireless access point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► based controller software that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► if you have certain advanced features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► enabled which I don't know you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► needed for initial setup of any any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► their wireless access points and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► turns out that they also sell this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► little kind of like one of those like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► tell us if you look like a USB stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► with actually a whole mini computer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► there and I'm talking about little of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► the the Knux isn't but whatever those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► are they sell something that looks just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► like that and it runs their software in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► little like mini computer thing so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► don't need to run it on one of your real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► but those things are also sold out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► everywhere but when they're installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► supposed to only be like 70 or 80 box so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► you can pay 70 or 80 bucks to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► installing java somewhere which I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► probably do and what was the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► that product do you remember i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► idea it but it doesn't matter because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that stuff everywhere its ubiquitous is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► like it's like some kind of like Cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► Controller or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► interesting alright your bakery makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► routers and Wi-Fi access points and IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► cameras and switches they also make long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► range Wi-Fi antenna so I give you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► want to like be my Wi-Fi from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► building to a whole different building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► that might be far away they make a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► bunch of stuff to do that also cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► suspiciously little but everyone says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► works very well like this company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► yeah well I i think that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► turns out there's a pretty big business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► in taking something that's controlled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► a very small number of very high margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► companies and doing the same thing for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► I'm glad Casey's got my job yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► thank you alright so right after we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► recorded the last episode smile software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► ended I smile now changing changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► oh it's just my ok changing some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► stuff about the new pricing for text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► text expander what it basically amounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► to was well most of the things are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► same we're gonna give you a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► of a discount if you already a customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► and will keep the old thing around for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► some undetermined amount of time is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► well i think the most important thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► that they did something because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► we're talking about last year like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► let's see what they did let's think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► maybe they meant this may be the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► that Bob it's like all right well we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► what their their announcement x minus 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► is doing to the market now we wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► see is this what they wanted to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► because a lot of the discussion last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► shot was like well this is what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► and it doesn't seem crazy to expect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► have these results come out of it surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► they must have thought of this but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► the other hand maybe they've made a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► mistake and we'll find out if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► anything about it like oh no hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► something we did it was faster than i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► ever thought they would so it's so clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► that whatever it is they thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► were doing they did not expect there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► action they got because that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► two days everything else in one day it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► was very quickly afterwards they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► supposed to says no no are we heard your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► feedback bottle blonde now we come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► the announcement did they hear people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► yeah it is what they've done actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► Thailand Marcos is a pretty strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► opinion that they're not addressing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► concerns really but well it's you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► mean honestly I I don't care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► strongly about this topic in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► because of this i'm not really expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► our user and also i am a developer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► saw something that subscription priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► and so I I do sympathize with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► announced is basically that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► they they move this product that was a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► traditionally sold like you pay 40 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► something dollars for this product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► everything we do a major upgrade you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► might get upgrade discount whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► for the most part it's like you pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► decent amount upfront and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► use it as long as you want any make new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► ones every couple years or every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► you can choose upgrade or not and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► it's now a web service with a required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► five-dollar month subscription with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► these clients that are now free and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► the people people who use it wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► very angry for basically two main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► reasons number one as we discussed last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► episode a lot of people just don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► subscription pricing especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► things that they don't expect it on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► that they don't see the value in whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► you know it's what people expect for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► pricing models whether in a like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► want to pay per month for like a USB hub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► it's just a USB hub it does its job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► right why should we pay per month for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► that and some people use offer that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► even though kind of isn't and practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► but anyway so there's that complaint and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► if you have that complaint the the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► announcement which is basically we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► dropping the price on the subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► for people who had the old version and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► we're going to keep the old version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► updated for unspecified amount of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► and so if you had the objection that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► this thing should not be subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► this will not affect you at all you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► still be upset about this if you had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► opinion that well I'm upset about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► caption priced but because i will end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► paying a lot more than i did before then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► this will probably make you happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► because now it has removed i think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► or all of that complaint i haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► all the numbers but it's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► that you know i think you'll end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► paying roughly the same that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► paying before if you have created a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► years so it will address some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► complaints and the ones that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► primarily about just like total price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► over time but it will not address the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► people who are really upset that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► are moving to this model and also they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► may also have another problem where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► they removed their sync features because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► one of the ways of justifying the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► subscription service is you can now sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► through their web service make you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► to think through the web service before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► text expander which works by having full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► keyboard access so we can read every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► keystroke it has to read every keystroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► you're typing so it is functionally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► keylogger and before it didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► internet access because before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► supported sink through lots of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► means basically like it would store its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► data in a file somewhere and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► say that file through many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► means i think dropbox was probably most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► common when people use from people who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► keylogger effectively didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► network access now it does and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► there's also the concerns about it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► know the security around this it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► of tricky to combine something that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► full keylogging access with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► third-party servers that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► control and then there's a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► around whether they are encrypting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► snippets that you are storing their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► of course the answer i'm pretty sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► answer was is there not but there's rely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► on the other security measures around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► just like your login stuff to to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► concerns here that people had a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► bunch of objections that people had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► new model and they have addressed one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► them which is the total price over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► but that's all they've address so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► what about text and the 5 there-there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► change on that so that we will continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► this from the press we will continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► sell and support text expander 540 s10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► and Texas bender 3 + custom keyboard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► iOS for those who need it and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► don't have any time scales will continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► how long forever a year a month a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► five days when if Texas better five is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► not compatible for the next version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► OS 10 will be updated so many questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► that I again I have to think they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► these questions like they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► getting tons of feedbacks huge number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► those questions must have said how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► was ex-offender five be supported will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► you updated how long time you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► long will your old versions that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► do the subscription pricing how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► will they be supported will you continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► to update them and they just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► answer it at all and you have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► it's because they think people won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► like the answer not because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► occur to us to address that question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► because they must have got that question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► yeah because the answer is you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► you think about it just think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► and everybody they're not trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► like greedy or evil or anything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► can't support an old version of this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► there's going to be on an infinite time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► scale there's going to be an end to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► support for this version of this app so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► and you know when are they going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► that they what they've said in this post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► it really just I think honestly makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► the problem it worse because it implies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► that this will be supported indefinitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► but you know in practice there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► to be an end and I don't think we or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► they know when that end will be yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► I think they're creating unmaintained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► yeah like whatever they've lifted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► naive person reading this that someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► going to read we will continue to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► and support to expand five like oh i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► so satisfied this press release made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► feel so much better thank you smile we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► but what they have in their head is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► help continue to use text and the 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► forever like and eventually texts aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► Texas matter five will not work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► they're going to be so angry then was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► gonna be like but you put out this press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► release that said you will continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► sell support x-men five and that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► be like well we continue to support x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► better five but unfortunately text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► compatible version is XYZ and Bob lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► alike but you said and like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► aren't reading like lawyers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► reading for the nuance they're not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► they don't know like why should you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► expect customer to understand what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► involved in maintaining an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► across the multiple releases of various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► especially for like a system I utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► like Texas matter whether it's on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► rs10 there's always going to be stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► you have to do to maintain it is not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► an application that you just run it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► then it went to you and that needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► maintained so I know they're setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► themselves up for failure but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► think about how much do I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► gonna start texas-pan five well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► don't want to support two different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► versions of their product like who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► want like the whole point of that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► did they want to have sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► development description pricing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► can't say okay now we're gonna have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► teams one that's just maintaining the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► old versions and one to maintain the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► version nobody wants to do that so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► gut reaction is someone who's seen a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► of software is the Texas manner five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► minute and take span 23 for iOS they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► probably work with this version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► austin and the next in this version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► iOS and the next version probably but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► when they break i don't think the smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► will invest in my fixing them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► they'll be like look you had your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► now it's time to move on to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► one took to whatever six or seven or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► wherever the now right and in smiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► defense you know I that this is while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► I don't want to like gang up on them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► or be you know or attribute to malice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► them but there are these problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► every way you choose to take money you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► know if they continue doing the old way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► of here's a paid app you buy it once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► then in a couple years you might buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► upgrade that method also has to cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► support for old versions eventually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► when that happens that also angers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► people and so no matter what you do no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► matter what you choose to take money it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► will anger somebody and it and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► a lot of somebodies if you're if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► have a good customer base you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► you have a good-sized customer base it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► regardless of what you do if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► charge for anything that'll anger people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► who are afraid that you're going to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► their data if you put ads in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► cattle anger people who don't like ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► no matter what you do you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► anger people i don't envy the position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► that smiles in here because what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► clearly saying if not you know directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► than employing what they're clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► saying is we need to get more money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► text expander like whatever this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► working for us we need more revenue from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► it somehow and the way we're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► that is going to have the short-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► pain for somebody and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► they're trying to address people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► concerns but ultimately they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► they're not able to they can't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► they have to make money somewhere so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► like there's always gonna be people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► are mad about this and they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► choose to make some of the mad i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► the only two good options here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► either that they continue doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► subscription model which honestly I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► it seems deeply flawed for the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► product is the kind of audience that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► had that as far as i know but again I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► not them i don't i don't know who your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► customers are so i could be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► so that's one option is to just go whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► hog industry in the subscription the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► they were before and just be honest like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► look you know support 45 will end after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► next OS version or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► now you set a date or Senate version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► will just say are able to stop after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► this and then you're on your own and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► gotta move to our service now or not or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► completely bring back the old model of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► Licensing what you know whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► continuing the subscription model also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► or not I don't know but you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► alternative here is you bring back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► TextExpander six is a regular software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► release that you can buy for 40 bucks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► whatever and you can own it but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► monthly fees after that for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► until you decide to stop using it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► it breaks with some distant future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► Western version i don't see another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► option here like what what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► now is trying to bridge the benefits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► both are trying to please people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► want both without giving up their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► subscription idea and and because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► know this is obviously like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► obviously invested a lot into setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► this up migrating product over to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► kind of system somebody's using it so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► they kill this description service now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► they're going to anger the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► are using it and who do like it so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► it this is not an imposition to be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► and I I don't want I don't want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► light of this because it's like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► this is all hard stuff and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► incredibly difficult to make a healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► profit selling software today it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► hard and and they have a staff they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► to support and you know what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► oh well maybe maybe software should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► free or there's a lot of competition or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► maybe they should lower their costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► whatever but none of those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► easy things to address or easy things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► actually follow through on and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► have uncomfortable side effects so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► this is not you know that like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► just be like it's kind of like when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► yeah I'm sorry for going political here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► God when the minimum wage goes up one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► the problems that the economist site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► when that happens is it basically prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► out a whole bunch of jobs from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► doable because like will now like if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► minimum i have to pay legal full-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► employee is your legal employees x then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► any job that is that cost less than X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► just kinda I can't just can't pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► somebody to do that really or any job is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► only worth you know something below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► decks that kind of problem happens now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► with software which is like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► software that could be created and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► could have value to people just is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► going to do well enough in the market or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► people won't pay enough for it for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► so a lot of that software just won't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► created or only creating an abandoned so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► there's all sorts of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► economic uncomfortable truths about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► we would however however you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► software pricing however you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► things should be priced or however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► whatever you're willing to pay for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► it's it's a very tricky area and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► envy smile at all for the position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► yeah I certainly don't either yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► i kind of think like Adobe when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► went through a similar transition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► like a man i think it was making plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► of money but this is you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► financially if we could if you could pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► for applications on a subscription basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► rather than selling your box with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► software in it or selling your download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► whatever into the most part they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► transition to that Microsoft is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► the same thing now trying to sell office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► 365 subscriptions and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► that smile obviously is much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► than Dobie or Microsoft look like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► trying to make a similar transition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► it's almost it's almost like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► ripping off the bandaid and just plowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► bravely forward certainly from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► situation but from the inside maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► that wasn't even an option that we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► have died the product would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► we tried it it's not working too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► people angry we're not selling enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► subscriptions we have to immediately do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► an about-face and so I guess you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► better now than six months from now or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► whatever but anyway this is surely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► the way they hope this transition would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► you to fix it with the discount and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► vague promise of support for the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► versions i don't know if it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► worse but boy I like yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► if it gives them a higher chance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► success either like I I just feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► they're saying that the only does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► deferred the anger to to a later period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► yeah the discount i think i think is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► probably fine because that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► this kind is actually like maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► mistake they just made was making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► subscription price too high that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► could that could have been something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► they decided to offer getting all angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► feedback when that sign of descriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► again i'm speculating here maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► like if you told people they could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► text and you get it for free and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► have to pay a penny a month everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► fine with that suddenly it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► philosophical objection to subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► pricing i don't want to pay a penny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► months too much know everybody's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► with that it's below their level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► concern right but five dollars a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► or whatever it is was above people seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► so the fifty percent discount for life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► if that brings it down below people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► threshold then we'll see like Marco said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► they really object philosophically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► subscriptions period or was he merely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► the price is too high the promise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► text expander is like and also we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► even really sure the subscription think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► it's a good idea so you can have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► thing for some undefined period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► but probably it will go away but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► probably don't know that and just makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► me depressed but you know I was anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► we'll see how it works out for them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► Microsoft is difficult but the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► part is you can somehow can't get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► way out of a press release without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► something terrible appearing and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► like it's I don't i'm not a PR person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► don't know how to do BR person's job i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► not going to say that i could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► written this better but as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► reads a lot of press releases reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► this does not make me feel better about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► the company and I imagine that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► press releases are supposed to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► last part of it was this supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► like you know person-to-person like have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► this was a big change their number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► things we could have done better alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► paragraph where they're saying basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► like acknowledging ok are bad you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► that you are angry at us and we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► at this point acknowledge that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► angry at us with reasons there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► things that didn't turn out the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► wanted them to you know we're sorry your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► we acknowledge your anger like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► right seems like it's going to find so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► far we genuinely want to bring you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► unfortunately not all the accents had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► the intended effect still so so good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► for example comma we staggered our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► customer emails or three days to ensure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► smooth server capacity so that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► would have a good initial experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► with the service this ever held up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► many customers learned of the new text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► expander from news sites Twitter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► Twitter rather than from smile that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► not an example of the of the bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► that people are yelling at you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► like because they found out the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► from a site other than you as if somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► they found out from you they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► choked it down and it would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► more palatable they're angry about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► finding out what happened from news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► sites rather different you physical part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► of that may be like why do I gotta hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► this on Twitter instead of from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► directly smile but subsequently if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► you're going to pick the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► that's not it this whole press release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► was addressing the issues none of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► were I found out about this from Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► instead of smile don't in your press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► release like that it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► you know what is your greatest weakness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► so I'm little bit I'm assess a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► ok it's not they were they were so close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► they're right there but it's for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► and the example they gave is not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► people are angry it's not even like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► top three that people are angry about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► yeah I'm feeling the story is not over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► yeah we've heard you and actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► going to be twenty-five percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► original price for life and Texas better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► five will be supported indefinitely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► we're canceling text finder six but wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► we heard you Texas better 6 users you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► want to keep all right I get them i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► 1 yeah you know they're they're allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► to you try something doesn't work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► react fast good if they come back again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► with another press release and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► we're just going to have dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► texture podcast is alright well we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► one more quick piece of follow-up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► then we can move on to some other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► these were the topics in they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► working with a great yeah it's not gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► area text matters follow-up so is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► yeah fair enough John you finally got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► your way she got your bleeps and bloops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► not my wish I wanted believes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► theme song that we had in one episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► but Marco took it upon itself to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► believes in glutes before and after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► ads I think because he listened to much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► hello internet or some other reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► anyway we've gotten a lot of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► about that and I thought Marco should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► explain what he's doing and why we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► got like three people who don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► it's yeah it's more than that but man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► people who don't like it i mean i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► say the sky is blue and people and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► people will tell me i'm an idiot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► wrong then what we've heard about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► well that's also true well people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► like change so that's obvious right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► I want more interested in is why did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► add them not why do people not like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► so first of all you can quibble over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► choice of sounds that the I i chose old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► Max and I wanted to do the windows XP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► USB device plugged in and unplugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► sounds but I knew John would not allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► that that that's correct John I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► even know that sound but no that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► be thinking about you do you do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► known as it anyway so that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► wanted to do and I knew John but would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► object so I i chose old Mac sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► instead that kind of just that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► actual origins of them are kinda funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► one of them's a crash one of them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► reboot of some old max I didn't pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► based on what computers they belong to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► specifically in the old Apple lineup i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► just picked based on which ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► thought sounded right for this purpose i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► was think about using using something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► like this for awhile because it allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► me a lot more flexibility and editing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► when i start the ad and when I end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► ad it also saves time in the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► because it removes all the transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► lead-in from like Casey saying all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► before we cover this market large tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► me something that's awesome you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► it removes the need for a lot of that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► it does save time I think and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► just gives me the flexibility to place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► the ads wherever I want to really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► whenever wherever there's a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► break in conversation even if we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► alright let's do a sponsor break now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► it allows flexibility and editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► basically and it makes everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► shorter it also helps differentiate when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► the ad has begun and when the and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► ended it forces you to figure that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► yeah enforcing it forces to be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► fully defined boundary which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► better tutorial even though i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► were pretty good about that already but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► like last week you talk to john about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► blue apron after after I had finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► doing my script and so if if I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► integrate that into the ad read i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► move it in and I did and so I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► rearranging the ad to move that into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► ad real explicitly and then once the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► sound played the ad was over so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► that helped also and so that's why I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► it and the reason I started two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► ago is because all three live reads I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► did that recording I hated them all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► so I recorded them all the next morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3298">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► and when I what I do recording after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► fact which I occasionally do if I mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► up a read too badly if I just don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► the way it turned out I will of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► always sound slightly different from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► way some of the night before just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► because you know people's voices changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► throughout the day and um and throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► each day you might have different voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► to yesterday but I you know just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► tired you are whether you're sick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► allergies whatever so I didn't like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► three the added two weeks ago I replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► them all the morning after and decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► this would be a good time to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► sounds because it would help people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► notice that I sounded different in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► ads and these dinner as far as i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► these did originate like the idea of at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► bumper sounds I first heard it on hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► I don't know if they invented it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► that is certainly where I first heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► they did not invent it just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► underscored in an exploding as yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► didn't I heard it first on correlation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► thought I think it's probably from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► radio the invention of radio yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► that well within podcast yeah radio its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► everyone does a little bit differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3358">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► but the idea of just like kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► quick opening and closing sound effect i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3361">TS</a>]
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01:02:29 ◼ ► good and bad anyway so so I learned like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► you got to be careful not to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► not to use like current sounds so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► specifically so that they wouldn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► like the more recent Mac sound effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► so like I didn't use the current mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► startup chime which is actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► I didn't use that because it was i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► didn't want people to think that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► the computer behind them was rebooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► and their craft a kernel panic like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► know I don't want I want to like freak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► people out so i had to pick sounds that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► were not recent and it would be funny to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► troll the windows XP users with the USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► sound and they are also quieter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► simpler and they wouldn't annoy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► because they would match each other John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► it's not the non matching it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► I know those sounds from history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► everything you said is a good idea not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► to use modern sounds don't use sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► that could be confused with car sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► like all good but just this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► one sided they just don't work for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► again we're gonna reconcile differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► Merlin has little guitar jangling as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► obviously it's probably not appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► for us but on metro works especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► because it fits in with the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► intro theme thing anyway I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► we can do better here is the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► angles and no one brought up the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► who like don't like change and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► having things like this no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► sounds we end up landing on and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► volume there at or whatever having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► regular features of the show like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► song in the middle and the little the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► ring things and the car door opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► stuff like that that stuff is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► addictive like you really like Pavlov's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► with ringing the bell and making a dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► salivates like it is like a literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► belt-like so for all the people who it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► weird for you because we're changing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► totally understand that but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► people who are just starting to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► to the show now or four people a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► from now after we've been doing this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► integral part of the show that we ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► took it away they would people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► flip out because humans are just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► little monkeys and hit you know so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► eventually you'll come to love the belt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► maybe not this particular time so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► we will get we feel like we will get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► kinks workout and version 2 and three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► eventually you won't be able to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► without them yeah and I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► that's one of the reasons we have our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► so Jonathan Mann the author of our theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► song he we did the first episode without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► a theme song are after how many we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► beforehand it was a few and like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► time we complained that we didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► how to end the show and everything so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► wrote the theme song and at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► time i had actually asked Merlin Mann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► like a week or so earlier if he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► write us a theme song because because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► always like musical things like like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► think that pretty sure it's just him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► playing guitar or playing rockband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► something like he is a musician but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► you know back to work that seems but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► that's theme song was like a high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► band or whatever high school band open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► that wasn't what it may I was it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► after high school I don't know anyway a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► serious band you know I bought their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► album with it it's bacon right yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► yeah so I actually asked Merlin before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► Jonathan wrote what is now our theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► song is Merlin to write something for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► and then when Jonathan wrote his theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► song we were like this is so good like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► it was getting stuck in all of our heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► all day and we're like I think we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► to get use this it's it's too good we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► have to use this it's so infectious she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► gets in all of our heads so much we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► don't have a choice we have so i i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► to dramatic look I'm sorry I like have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► you if you start anything please stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► and fortunately he hadn't gotten to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► yet so it wasn't like a huge deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► at least I don't think no one hates me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► forever for that because that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► three years ago and I think we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► friends but yeah like we knew like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► we we heard the jonathan mann song we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► knew we had to do it by the way quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► plug for Jonathan man he is launching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► new podcast called song knots on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► truth when the radio topia shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► it's a big podcast already took anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► so look check out song or not spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► which i think is launching shortly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► might have lied about time we are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► quick plug for Jonathan's we like him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► lot because your theme song so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► that is why we we do fun stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► because it gets in our heads and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► becomes part of the personality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► show and I do I like John your statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► basically like I just stop you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► wanting to get used to eventually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► not stop your whining is that you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► not just get used to it you'll come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► crave it you will need it to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► will become a comforting regular as any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► sort of routine as any you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► parent of a child knows regular you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► having routines the time we do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► it is comforting to have a routine to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► know that no matter what crazy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► goes on during the show a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► there's going to be these little jingles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► that to mark the asthma is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► song maybe it's gonna be a car sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► like those regular things be those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► routines those traditions become comfort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► you will you'll come to love them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► long as we don't pick terrible sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► and words I don't want your 5 bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► yeah alright so you want to talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► topic or just one and here is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► sponsor to do if you want i'm kidding we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► talked last week's this is even a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► topic this is like halfway between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► we talked last week about Apple's 40th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► birthday and we went on a journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► together through our art our finding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► mac in finding apple and we didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► much about the imac or at least not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► enough for John so John tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► Apple turning 40 and the imac yeah we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► running over in our for you think so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► kind of cut that out of where i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► have talked about myself but i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► is an important part to acknowledge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► maybe you guys can relate to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► maybe you have opinions on it looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► it from afar but so the imac was 1998 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► and steve jobs would come back to apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► and in that people don't remember they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► important turnaround product but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► imac was just as important if not more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► important for Apple as a company not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► particularly for the industry because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► the end I go whatever it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► computer people to make computers before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► the important thing that the imac did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► for apple is it seemed like from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► outside that he gave the entire company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► like a little measure of pride back like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► that it made them believe oh yeah we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► make cool things that people like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► were proud of because there was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► especially with that pole being your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► different CEOs in the years before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► and running out of money and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► layoffs and having products that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► weren't particularly happy with not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► being able to feel the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► less difficult for peter tries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► windows 95 coming in just stomping all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► over their face and Marco feeling bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► for people having max it was getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► harder and harder to be proud to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► employee of apple and so Steve Jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► his typical hit what would become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► typical thing of having a secret group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► work on a secret project and no one knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4144">TS</a>]
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01:12:35 ◼ ► people get the wrong idea of like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/4355">TS</a>]
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01:23:25 ◼ ► glances for the most part i wish we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► custom watch faces i would love to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► able to do more with complications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► either have more of them on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► intelligent somehow i'm not even sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► how but all in all I still really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► by Apple watch and I'm looking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► and I'm starting to feel like i'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► John are you wearing yours now I right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► time we talked about this a while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► yeah I bailed on using it mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► i found myself going through entire days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► interaction with it including check me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► for the time which is not a habit i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► and I'm not a watch where and it annoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► me to have a thing on my wrist so i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► i have built-in negatives and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► anything you buy rest overcome with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► aversion to ever having anything on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► wrist ever and I don't have any habits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► built-in for watching so i need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► deposit of to offset that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► positives evaporated I stopped wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► it and the positives were the positives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► notifications like the text i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► activity tracking but there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► enough to overcome my desire to not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► something on my wrist although now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► i'm about to know travel i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► bring my watch with me and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► we're on vacation because i'm walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► around a different city it is convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► destination on your phone and put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► phone in your pocket and not to take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► out again and just walk there and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► your wrist tell you which way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► same thing for driving i kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► that you know i don't need it when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► going to and from work every day is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► can you know there's no directions need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► to have but if you're an unfamiliar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► it's nice to have that so I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► I still like it I feel like how it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► I still don't like wearing a watch so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► yeah that's pretty much where it is son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► and spends all his time on my dresser do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► you hate having something on your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► because of your shag carpet arm hair or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► just because you hate having something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► I think it's mostly because of RS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► actually like the same reason I stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► wearing my wedding ring is that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► sensitive to have anything in that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► as I'm sitting there typing all day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► just everything about it's sensitive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► want any pressure on anything grabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► it on anything rubbing against it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► like the wrong kind of like sleeve cuffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► when I wear long sleeves can bother me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► so yeah and that I don't have any in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► green habits of like I'm always looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► I risks i just left again I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► discuss for last time I watch like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► middle school when I just came old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► enough to have a watch and wanted to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► it out and I work for a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► like some plastic digital watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► decided it wasn't for me so I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► alright so i wanted to save you for last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► well i mean first of all I i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► not a very good argument to say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► well it seems trained to hate this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► right now you know that's that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► whoever you're reading which includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► people like me who who are not cooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► or have cooled on the Apple watch em die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► I think what we're seeing here I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► there's a number of factors here I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► question the apple watch utility for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► lot of people but and in fact you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► final utility my word as well it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► you know the the downside of it bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► me too much and I found I preferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► regular watches rather than you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► guy I went from no watch to an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► watch 20 I like watches turns out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► most of what i do is tell the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► regular watches just do a way better job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► of that for my purposes because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► always on and not charge a better what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► found that you know i think if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► kind of like globally step back from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► know what any individual's personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► needs are and personal opinions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► the Apple watch our i think you can step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► back and you can you can see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► product as really a really mixed bag as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► a one-point product and there's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► things that exacerbate this one of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► is that it's going more than a year as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► one point out and as we I mean we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► about this before so I don't go too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► into it but like it's looking like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► not going to get a good successor to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► for you know at least now which is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► is like a year after it came out or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► least not gettin it now we might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► even get it in until the the summer or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► the fall or even next spring we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► actually know when they're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► second generation and where the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► generation will be very good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► very much of an improvement in the areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► that that you know any person thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► that it needs it so we we are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► judging this thing on generation one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► generation one is not only longer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► these things usually are usually a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► generation one but also I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► generation 1 hardware and software were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► both pretty mediocre on the scale of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► like various Apple first gen products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► you know certainly not every Apple first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► prophecy is is a great product or a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► but I think as they go especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► I think the watch has been a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► mediocre one you know in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► bugs performance limitations things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► that what we're finding with Apple I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► talked before about this issue with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► the low-hanging fruit has all been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► picked everywhere and and so what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► baseline products the max the iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► into most to most of a degree the ipads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► these things are mature the innovation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► on them has slowed but they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► they have you know that there they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► great performance they have great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► physical characteristics a great balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► between like size and weight and battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► life for the most part we know very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► these are all very mature products but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► Apple is a company that depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► trying to sell its customers more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► devices and trying to sell devices to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► more customers so is Apple's job as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► hardware maker to just try stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► market to say you know hey dude you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► everybody has a phone like people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► everybody also need a tablet let's try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► let's try everybody also need a TV box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► let's try you know they that is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► job but all these mature things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► at the core of things you know basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► computers in the phones maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► tablets that covers most people's needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► so we are custom to judging apple on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► their products based on those products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► those core products most of the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► on the phone which is like yeah sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► and so it's easy to look at that and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► well if Apple makes a computer or phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► that kind of sucks for everybody and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► why they do it you know and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► that's true or not these people to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► at that way with the watch i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► we went into it with that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► expectation and a lot of people bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► it is an expectation of like it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► a new high-profile apple product line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► of course it's going to be for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► and of course is going to be good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► think what we're seeing is it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► find new things that are for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► in technology new things are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► computers or tablets or anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► this is our heart problems and the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► you know because of the incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► strong demands that the conflicting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► demands of that kind of product you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► severe size constraints severe power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► it's really too is your cost constraints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► it's just very hard to to get a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► SmartWatch product on the market it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► just really hard to do and I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► seeing is this is an apple product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► we thought was going to be for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► but just isn't it's just not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► it's just like you can look at any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► of watch and you can even know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► watches for everybody not even rolex or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► Omega Omega people sorry ahead not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► every watch for everybody and the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► watch it has not replaced all watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► and is not replace everybody's phones or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► anything like that and never will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► it is it is a product that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► work for some people but it's not a home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► run for everybody or even the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► works for having a home run necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► for them it's just decent maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► but it's it's hard to make new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► that is going to be really great anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► because so much has already been made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► and has already matured in these areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► in the areas of Technology and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► things like this that that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► people are you know working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► industry so I I don't think it's bad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► say the apple watch isn't for me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► don't think it's a sign of the watch has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► it to into if a lot of people think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► not for them but i also think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► watch as a one-point product was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► done with a lot of mediocrity and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► it is not unfair to criticize that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► it is these are real shortcomings it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► it has real problems real shortcomings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► really you know real design ? sand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► missed opportunities and we're choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► they made and all this will probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► fixed over time I hope it is and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► someday I'll go back to it as a brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► part that i use on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► because there are things about it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► do miss you know I i think i'm mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► that's like you know to have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► quick glance of like why did my phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► vibrate in my pocket long driving which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► shouldn't even look at the watch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► that is what is it and so overall though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► I I think again these are hard problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► and where we are in an era now where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► new things that Apple makes are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► going to be guaranteed to be mass market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► and that's probably okay i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► watch was a good bet for mass-market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► though because wearables car have a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► broader appeal than computing devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► because many more people spend more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► wearing things during the day they spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► using computers nothing everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► watch where but wearables as a category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► like if you had to pick a category of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► areas that Apple should get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► kind of on the cusp of like well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► mostly do computery things and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► getting to the point where you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► a computer anything that's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► clothing or jewelry in some way I does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► that mean glasses like Google was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► does that mean watches it mean like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► little fitness turd like Fitbit is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► or something else as a category i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► this was a very smart bet for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► get into their first entry in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► category you know they learn that move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► on i hope they don't abandon it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► if you're looking for another mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► market thing I think that the categories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► are looking at are all potential winners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► lots of people watch television or watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► a video or something having to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► lots of people have cell phones that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5638">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► a good market from lots of people where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► things also a good market and add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► as computers get smaller and lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► weight and the power requirements go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► down and so on and so forth that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► entire category will only become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► viable so if i had to look like broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► strokes long-term product strategy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► think it was really smart for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► get into wearables and I really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► they do stick it out and learn their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► lessons make better products keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► iterating and innovating because these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► type of products played all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► manufacturing of beautiful objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► especially the ability to make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► that are appealing to people visually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► they were just talking about with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► imac that's important when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► wearing it an apple has shown with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► watch brands and their watch designs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► within the constraints of the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► available they're actually pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► yeah they just have to figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► make the product part of it and and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► think about the first ipod was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► crappy to it's just that the first ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► negatives in the watches like that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► positives that way someone's negatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5698">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► but net is not as compelling product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► yeah and and ultimately I i think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► would give me concerned about the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► is the apparent slow pace of progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► and you know we will see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► the next time there is a substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► update to even the hardware or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► software will see you know I this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► totally change my tone about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► right now it appears to be moving pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► slowly I don't know I I don't outright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► disagree with anything you just said but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► if we really step back and think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► first of all as someone who works in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► office building like John does i see so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► many Fitbit bracelet he watching things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► i can't even count them and I concur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► with what John said that wearables are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► market that I think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► getting a bit going to be a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► market with time and I think that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► playing in this market is a wise choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► recently it was the day or two ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► watched that classic Louis CK Louie CK a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► video when he was on Conan about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► getting pissed off about not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► you know people getting all upset about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► the fact that they're in an airplane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► don't have Wi-Fi and this is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► same as is people getting upset about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► their watch but at the same time I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► a mini computer on my friggin wrist that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► can with limitations connect to almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► all the known information on the planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► on the internet that's pretty freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► amazing and i agree that there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► that's frustrating about my watch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► never use apps for of several different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► reasons number one of which it's so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► so to do any thing and it's infuriating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► but not nevertheless i have this device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► that tracks my heartbeat it tracks how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► much I'm standing how much I'm moving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► tracks when my next appointment is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► John was saying if I'm in a city that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► i'm not familiar with and I'm walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► around I can do so without having my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► phone out screaming I'm a tourist please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► Robbie there's so many things for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► that I really like about this and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► especially given the unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► engineering constraints that that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► that this product was made under its to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► me it's such an impressive product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► there is so much that could be done to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► make it better Marco you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► right about that i mean i can't argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► with with that at all but for me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► still it's still something that adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► value to my life and I still like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► I just feel like I think the thing of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► is is that it was like a switch flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► and suddenly everyone was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► how much they don't want to wear an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► Apple watch anymore and that in and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► itself that's fine but it just seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► weird to me and I felt bad for the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► little apple watch and i still feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5878">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► for the poor little apple watch the cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► little feller and and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► somebody needed to build it up a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► bit i don't know enough people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► not tech nerds who have an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► know how it's playing in a non-tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► marry crackle obviously we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► talking about the technology and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► the ones writing things about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► whatever and yet it did kind of all come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► together it's because i think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► slowly stopped wearing them and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► people who need to tell the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► they slowly stopped wearing them had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► write stories about it and then other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► people saw the stories and the felt safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► now admit that they slowly stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► wearing them which is fine i guess how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► the press cycle goes but it's still all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► within just the sort of tech nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► circles and I'm sure that watch selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► outside technology circles you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► by the huge spike in sales that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► seem to have from everything we're able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► to understand from Apple's uh closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► guarded secrets about how much how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► watches they're selling exactly during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► the holidays because technically don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► say they're spending the holidays they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► no I'm actually are you know anecdotally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► I've seen since the holidays I've seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► lot more Apple watches in the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► oftentimes on on you know non-geeks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► at least people who speak status is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► yeah because i'm at something they must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► be selling them i just i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► those people so I can't sort of get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► read on like not none of my family or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► friends who are not tech nerds have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► Apple watch i would love to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► regular people think of the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► is still kind of Shirley Apple knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► because it's their job to know i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► imagine regular people not being is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► picky about it but also not becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► eternally addicted to it like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► once you start selling ipods the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► four-hundred-dollar accessories only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► work with macs like once you know yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► the Dominions stuff people love their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► ipods man they love them like and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► people love their Apple watch her do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► they say it's pretty cool and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► good Christmas present that I got but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► don't know if they are so incredibly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► love with it as they were with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► smartphones or their their iPods or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► whatever so we'll see next Christmas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► and how they rate on this i'm good i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► entirely open to the idea that Apple can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► try other kinds of wearables whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► it's fitness turd or you know an earring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► or a ring or something involving glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► and there was discussion on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► today about Apple cables are panic was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► disappointed that Apple wasn't anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► on the radar when it came to VR and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► you want to do vr you had to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► discussing know Mac you can buy as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► vital for which is entirely true because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► the max technically capable of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► your experience with the current be our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► products to the the pioneers of the VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► re there you know you need a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► console or you need a pc and no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► forget it and so he was considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► cables concerned that Apple's missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► out on this that they are watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► one go by and again we've talked many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► times about the supposed rumored to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► our things that Apple surely toying with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► internally but as far as I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► there's no there's no credible rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► about Apple feeling any products in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► I i think they should be experimented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► with it and same thing with wearables I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► think they should be experimenting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► everything having to do with wearables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► something back without recently was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► you guys say that Apple spread too thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► but on the other hand you're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► saying Apple has to be checking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► everything there's a difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► fielding a product of platform or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► investigating like apples job is to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► everything to see what you know not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► the market but like tried out internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► make sure someone is working on VR make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► sure someone's working on this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► maybe not cards right but everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► close to their industry be don't let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► catch you by surprise and then figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► out of all those things is it someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► where we can sell a good product you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► you know make a significant contribution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► to this market how big is the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► market that's what they should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► internally you can't do is actually say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► we need to be in every single market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► like Microsoft in the nineties we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► to make if there's a technological thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► that can run software we need to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► one of them and we need to sell it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► product we need to support it forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► because then you just end up with too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► much crap so it's being spread too thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► as when you do more than you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► externally and then doing due diligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► internally is saying we need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► looking at everything we need to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► caught by surprise we need to it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► determination of it's not time for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► enter that market will continue looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► at so much cheaper to just continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► investigate internally it gets really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► expensive once you say you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► gonna make a product that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► rumors about the car by the way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► someone inside decided we can we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► innovate in the car space whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► with electric cars self-driving cars or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► whatever whatever they're gonna do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► and the room I heard was that Apple had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► essentially said they're willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► spend a billion dollars on development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► of a car and then walk away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► entire project doesn't like it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► now again it's just a rumor who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► but that's the mindset you have to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► with because how do you know whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► can do something good in the car space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► you can think about it all you want but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► at a certain point someone has said all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► right I think we can do something let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► give it a try and if you have budgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6176">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► the size of Apple you could say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6178">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► right we'll put a billion dollars into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► this and then we'll revisit mostly once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► what do we think guys is this ready and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► gals to a lifetime of sexist language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► cemented my freakin break anyway what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► we think of this is this going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► product worthy of Apple should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► release it and that's where Martin comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► and yells at you and says you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► maybe the watch wasn't a product worthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► of Apple quite yet we think we're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► are great but when it's time to give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► go/no-go maybe let it bake a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► or maybe it was the wrong approach yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► that the rumored attitude with the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► and i think is the right attitude is get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► while the getting's good you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► lot of money you can invest a lot just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► because you put a billion dollars into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► it doesn't mean you actually have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► ship a car you can put a billion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► in and say we thought we could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► something really interesting here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► lesson learned move on that's doing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► due diligence if they're doing that VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► we've been looking to be off for two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► decades we have people doing AR and VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► internally we've been investigating for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► as long as be investigating anything any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► of the technologies that we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► released like touch screens and voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► recognition and all these things we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► been doing the last forever and ever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► Apple when it's time to come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► contribution we will until then we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► so that's why we always just assume here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► on the outside of course i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► to be are and sometimes in our darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► moments to think right right Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► you're at least experimenting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► internal doesn't mean you need to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► the product that doesn't mean you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► compete with the oculus rift today like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► there's so many questions about VR still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► you know we still don't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► going to happen there but we just hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► that Apple as the richest technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► company in the world at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► is investigating all these avenues for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► wearable same thing it you can wear a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► lot of Technology things on your body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► and a lot of people where things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► their body everyday and apple could sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► them something that makes their lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► that would be perfect thanks lat 43 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► mat.com freshbooks and betterment and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► mean to begin as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► any research Marco in kc wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► accidental and you can find the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► know today p dot and if twitter follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment our AC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► we talked about that uh that max thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► oh oh yeah I didn't get a chance to reel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► under all these what's jon's mom who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► Californian what the hell is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► been our show notes for like three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► yeah but just everything I can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► about it sometime but not today not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► today i'm not prepared for it not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► the whole all you know what the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► purpose of this show you don't mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► not like I need to I just need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► that's the thing we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► about tonight now that the max thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► good idea because i forgot that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► there and I did look at that page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► yes I didn't get a guy didn't get a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► look at it I looked at the picture so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► that's mean that's a lot of it so yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► sir there's a blog post by Andrew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► ambrosino on medium called Mac awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► at any cos that you know the lowercase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► Mac way that we think they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► rename it colon it's time to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► next step and he basically outlines a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► number of like substantial changes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► that he he thinks should be done or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:56 ◼ ► proposes might might be good to mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6416">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► in things like design and interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► changes and really kind of making it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► was he was originally responding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► little bit too steep transmits claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► back in his day bc wish list post few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► months or a couple months back or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► couple weeks back that he was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► secret and Smith said that he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► believes that OS 10 is a dead platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► so this so Andrew here basically kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► took that further like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► what does os10 need to kind of take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► next level 22 to remain relevant to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► the next step and there's a number eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► it if I could summarize it he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► makes the interface look a lot more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► iOS apps that are kind of being windowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► in regular in like a regular os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► environment so it basically it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► it's a significant design refresh around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► a more iose style for lots of apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► the system rather than what we have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► is kind of like you know mostly apt-get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► styles and then some apps like photos or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► on any proposed if you have things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► any file system thing and a few other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► things so I don't know what you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► it does not look as much like iOS as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► think it does and i also think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► doesn't take much to get a designer's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► I think all you need to throw them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► the again mostly agreed upon by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► renaming of the operating system to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► match iOS and TV us and watch us to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► a lowercase M my question we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► talking about for months and months i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► think that's basically all you need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► can just put that little grain of sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► immediately want to design screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► of what this always look at starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► like this one does but the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► about screen because it if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► think that changing the capitalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► and naming of an operating system can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► lead to a visual design you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► much of a designer in you because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► doesn't take much to get that ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► rolling and I like these screenshots but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► they remind me a lot of what i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► whenever there is a new mac operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► system coming designers want to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► though I would make it look and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► to say that most of them I feel like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► doing a surface treatment they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► reskinning without rethinking any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► paradigms because they have a dock on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► the bottom menu bar on the top they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► toolbars and search fields and sidebars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► and and master detail views and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► table views and scrolling list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► thumbnails and it's like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► rethinking anything that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► the mac operating system is now and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► has been for years and years and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► because on your video player you put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► big circle kinda like there is on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► iphone camera does not to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► interface of dealing with video on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► mac at all like a real paradigm shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► would be away from some aspect that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► defined the the Macan that the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► desktop the operating system or that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► you know in the modern era the doc but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► really just movable resizable windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► with widgets and toolbars and menu bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6597">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► on the top of the screen like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► come down to it I'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► needs to change but anybody was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► this needs to be we need to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► stagnating and then they show every skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► type of thing that's there seems to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► disagreement between with between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► stand the actuality of the images even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► exciting to the person who drew them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► they do look kind of cool even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► do look a little bit like the current uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► look and feel the system maybe just rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► up a little bit yeah if you're if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► pitches in the text that needs a radical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► rethink then the screenshot should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► radical rethink and I don't think these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► are on the other hand if your pitch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► you know when we talk about the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► shows that the max should be i take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► advantage of its maturity and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► increased performance and stability over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► and over again until it is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► rock solid super responsive like a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► console in the olden days when there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► no such thing as framerate drops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► just everything happens because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6658">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► screen can handle it sprites on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► screen at the time and they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► perfect and there's never any dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► frame rate and everything is perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► responsive and stable thing never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► crashes because you can't do software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► updates on a cartridge and nothing's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► ever going to change anyway I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► that has to be a nostalgic type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► but like that is that is another route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► you can go with the mac not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► radically rethink it make it the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► version of the current mac operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► system that could possibly be as in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► scrollbars window widgets menu bars that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► is a powerful paradigm that its last us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► a long time you can do amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► with it and there's nothing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► particularly broken about it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► current customers of the mac plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► things broken out for the mass market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► would much rather use their smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► not again setting that aside for now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► can take the mac on face value for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► who wouldn't love a mac that reacted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► your input faster that did everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► faster that never crashed never stalled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► can you do that it's easier to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► if you say that's all we're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► with this thing we're not going to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► to come up with big important features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► every single time we're going to say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► there's a big important feature crying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► wouldn't like it but if there's not we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► will not feel ashamed to spend an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► year just polishing the hell out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► mac operating system i know i would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► that and I know a lot of the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► customers would love that and maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► could say that defines a dead platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► because stability equals death but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► is one possible route to go to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► but even more and I think to extend its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► life because in order for the mac to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► continue to be viable it has to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► to offer things better than iOS and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► was getting better all the time and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► the mac operating system is not also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► eventually those lines on the graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► across and there's no more points for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► having the mac yeah i mean i-i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► really comes down to like you know is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► the mac being treated you know harvest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:51 ◼ ► platform why software-wise it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6771">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► treated like the macbook air which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► kind of like you just can't we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► to keep selling it for a while until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► becomes irrelevant or dies then we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► going to kind of stop or is it an active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► platform that Apple wants to keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► indefinitely and I think it's the latter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► and I think we've you know we've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► federighi and I think maybe even from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► phil schiller and so either way I'd it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► does seem like that is the idea that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► maintenance mode until it gets subsumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► by iOS it does seem like they want to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► keep moving it forward it really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► needs know maybe the resources to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► that and maybe they're doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► already i don't know but I if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► going to keep it going as a platform i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► think i got to make a John argument here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► but like they have to eventually make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► like massive jumps in certain areas like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► eventually like whatever we know as os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► there's gonna be like you know max 11 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► whatever whatever the movie called like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► eventually there was going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► the next big jump forward on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► platform at least there needs to be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► going to remain relevant and and I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► doesn't it's hard to tell whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► getting the resources the attention it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► needs internally to be on track for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► or whether they're mostly focused on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► right now but i don't know maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► naming like is a their way of doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► I wonder if they're going to reset the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► version numbers they start from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► point out this is macross one point now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► instead and under the covers of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► they would still be like you know 10 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► whatever just for software backward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► about some kind of like how Windows has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► the crazy version number that he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► scared off because they continue where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► they do the NT version numbers i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► few thousand yeah anyway i can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► that they're doing something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► that's not the big reset we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► about this was the other direction was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► like alright then radically rethink it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► radically rethink my governing system do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► do another mac western-style transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► that can be dangerous too because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► could just be annoying the remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► customers you have to say forget this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► and I'm going to go through a big change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► and just gonna learn how to use an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► pro I don't know but at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► renaming and reskinning can actually go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► a long way towards getting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► excited about a platform again even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► it's all service details if you also do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► some other things right that like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► another free again me like do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► to do a a make things faster and fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► bugs release but make people think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► a feature release just change how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► everything looks maybe like well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► new microorganism it's crazy when all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► they did was all they did was change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► graphics and then they spent the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► rest of the time fixing bugs increasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► performance and as someone who write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► software and someone who likes software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► updates i'm obviously more excited than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► normal people are about this i love when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► a new version of a software product that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► I use comes out that they tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► something in it is faster i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► I've because you know as a programmer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► love doing that i love you know deleting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► code that no longer has executed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► every you know frame of animation or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► every time this thing happens like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► love better algorithms that scale better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► with large amounts of content handles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► huge numbers of photos better like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► know even something as simple as better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► responsiveness during scrolling or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► loading things are like performance i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► love things when they get better like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► that and regular people don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► really care about that but they feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► intangible feeling that your product is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► better than others in ways they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► explain it because it really and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► same way that if you give someone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► original iphone and then gave them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► another touchscreen phone another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► contemporary touchscreen phone everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► could tell you that the iphone was way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► better even if they don't know like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► right I recognizes superior product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► because the hardware is nicer or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► stupid thing we actually reacts to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► understand the nuances of of finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► different than the touch screen that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► hate on my ATM this touchscreen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► the ATM sketch me is terrible and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► I don't need to tell you the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► reasons why just recognize it so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► make a product that is more stable more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► and faster and more responsive and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► keep doing that on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► customers will react they will love your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► product more and those of us in the know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► will also react and that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► don't you don't need to win us over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► real winners everyone else who will feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► that but boy I love products that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► know that's an any product that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► performance in prison that I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► feeling speaking of like dead platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► everything that people seem to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► applications they use a date from day to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► day or the operating system itself that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► can get faster like well this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► how computers are and I just reject that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► computer can and should be faster even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► just on the software side like ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► that yes I think they should be faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► cpu ram storage faster graphics card yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► thats all continue to happen she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► not apple can write yeah but just even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► within the same hardware there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► things you can do to make this offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► faster so many things can be done like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► that that poor guy c and Twitter who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► nsuserdefaults faster i love that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► just yes please do spend an entire year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► making nsuserdefaults faster please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► you should be you know if that's used by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► tons of applications and you make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► just a little bit faster you'll save us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRKkcnI/7082">TS</a>]