00:00:00 ◼ ► we should briefly discuss that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/0">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► interesting travel arrangements between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► the three of us coming up in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/8">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► couple of weeks and so we're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► additionally we should note that jon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/12">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► so if he sounds a little bit peculiar if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/18">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► you hear slightly more background noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/20">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► unusual that's not his fault that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► being on assignment is all about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► not much of an assignment my internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/28">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► went out of my house so i had to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► make other arrangements better that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► not my files box from i don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► many years ago 10 years ago 12 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/36">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► finally given up the ghost witches a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► shame and of course it does it now at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► the most inconvenient time we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► podcast during this week and I'm about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► to leave somewhere to complications so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► appreciate you not only be going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/55">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► assignment like that but also admitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► to the fact that on assignment just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/59">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► means you have internet problems i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► sounds super exciting and then you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► yeah i've also got my my little cup of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► water on the same level as my macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► I'm totally a channeling you you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/70">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► limited options in my undisclosed well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► Godspeed my god will be so funny if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► spilled it i really don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► but I neither do i but but that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► going I'm going to be pretty careful as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/87">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► you can imagine my goodness alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► we should start with some follow-up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► Internet has written to tell us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► the tesla model name a team now I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► really I knew this and I think you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/101">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► did too but none of us our lease I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► because I didn't think it was relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/106">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► and nobody was a hundred percent sure at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► the time that we recorded whether this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► was a clever like backronym or if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/111">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► Internet has written to tell us that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/117">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► intention for the tesla model names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► which are sx3 and why the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► intention was for them to BS xe8 and y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/124">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► which you jumble that around a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► s.e.x y which is then the word sexy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► haha look at how clever Elon Musk is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► acknowledging that yes we are aware of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► this and in fact we were aware of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/141">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► we just didn't really want to bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► up and now we have been compelled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/144">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► bring it up it's actually not quite true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/145">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► that one of us did bring it up and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► actually ended it out i thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► sounded so juvenile and implausible I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► like that's probably not true it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► want to have that in the show so i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/157">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► edited out it's so you actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► you got to read more articles about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► on mosque maybe i don't i think a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► off not reading your articles already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► yeah I didn't go back and look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/168">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► master plan thing but I'd that during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► the presentation for the model 3 said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► the master plan was three cars so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► best best case the original plan could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/175">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► have been for ssex you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► four models now and the whole thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/179">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► anyway it sounds silly it is silly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► it doesn't work because it's called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► and the ex came before the three it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► just a mess yeah but everyone thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► that we were not aware of this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► whether or not we brought it up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/195">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► original version of the show wasn't on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► the release version of marketers said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► but we are aware I whatever i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► think this is amusing as everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/202">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► does like I don't what did whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► doesn't really matter to me but since we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► brought up the tehsil any other thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► on the test left for Marco same old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► stuff still love it still love it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► awesome i really am just enjoying it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► the thought of going back to a gas car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► now or as underscore David Smith calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► and exploding dinosaur car I it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► seems like the past it seems like a step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► back to think about it and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/227">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► and by the way sorry underscore but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/232">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► not going to give you credit for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► exploding dinosaurs thing he claimed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► select the other day that he had coined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► that term and i'm going to say no on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► have you found prior art I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► when he claims to have coined it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► I've heard for a long long time Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► searches for to go back pretty far he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► could have coined it when he was 15 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► don't know but it's yeah that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► I'm gonna do I hadn't heard that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► reference to regular traditional motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/258">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► but I had not heard this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► combination that being said we will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► this link in the show notes this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/266">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► underscored David Smith's innards review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/267">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► of the Tesla Model ass and it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► great i really really enjoyed it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► is exactly what it says on the tenets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► his review from the Nerds perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► tomorrow if you've been in the 3 GT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► since you've owned the Tesla only to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► move it in and out of the garage when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► doing some driver arrangement and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► only very briefly but that's fine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► still a great car for what it is but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► like this is again this is why Tesla is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► is so interesting because I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► you drive an all-electric car it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► does make all other gas cars feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► obsolete things in the past i just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► it's hard to describe it just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► a feeling that you get and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► average great i did I I do have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► bit more experienced now with autopilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► with the automatic steering I did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► couple of highway driving the day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► and so I'd I used it for a lot of them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► I agree mostly with what underscore says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► about it which is that it really is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/327">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► it's not the kind of thing where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► want to stop paying attention or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► can safely stop paying attention and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/337">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► would barely call itself driving because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► basic things will throw it off like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► you're driving on the highway lane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► the land the lane you're in splits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► part of it was like the continue on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► road fork and the other part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► like the get ready to exit off somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► else or the highway spoken to whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► chooses to follow the right side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► split it if you're like if he should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► staying left is kind of inconsistent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► vague it and there were a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► times where it was steering me I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► a little too close to like walls on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► side that barriers in the side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/373">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► everything so I got a little freaked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► a couple times so basically I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/376">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► massively useful you can't stop paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/380">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► attention you can even take your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► you're basically left it loosely holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► the steering wheel because it turns for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► you you know like buy it by the car so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/391">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► loosely gripping the steering wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/396">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► still holding your hands up at least one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► hand and so it's kinda like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► really the benefit of it if you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► if you have to do all that so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► know I'm a little torn on the value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► autopilot and I i couldn't i can now see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/410">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► complicated the idea of self-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► cars really is in practice if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► like that the current generation of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► regular consumers can get today we still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► have a lot of work to do and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► know it is very impressive compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/429">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► nothing but is really still it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/430">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► early days and i would not expect fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/434">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► autonomous self driving cars in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► few years I i think where I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/440">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► further away on that then a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► people might think just because driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► is so complicated and it these are such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► hard AI problems and such hard technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/447">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► problems to solve that and then after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/449">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► that we'll be such a hard human problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/452">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► to solve that I think we're still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► while off on that but I do think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► heading that direction they just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/457">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► question of like you know how quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/458">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► actually i want to i agree with Margo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► and I want to talk a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► self-driving cars actually put that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/467">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► the topic list is something I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► talk about for a while because of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► the press with the Tesla stuff but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► just want to chime in briefly and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► that i found a reference to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► dinosaurs from 10 years ago more than 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► years ago so we're against underscore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► something is a December 27 2005 someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► saying just remember that your car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► anyway it's a really old saying again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► underscores alive in 2005 we did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► never claimed when he pointed but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► going to say no anyway I'm gonna say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/495">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► I think he's in his thirties like us so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► you know pretty sure would like to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► I you gotta keep going backwards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► Google keep finding it anyway 2005 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► the earliest i found an end two seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► with the clear down here so with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► self-driving car things you hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► it because the test autopilot you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► about it because all the other car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► self-driving cars just today I saw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► news story about the agency is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► convoy of self driving trucks that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/518">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► no I saw the headline but I didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► anything else had like a human-powered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/523">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► one in the front and then like two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► three days like big you know semi-trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/526">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► following along looks terrifying i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/529">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► the press and the public has and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/534">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► car magazines have really jumped the gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► on this one because it's clear we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► nice progression from cruise control to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► radar cruise control two things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► will try to steer for you and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/546">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► so forth but to make that final leap to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► actual self-driving cars with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/551">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► with all the sci-fi pictures when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► see someone like reading a magazine all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/554">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► there in the car i think we are a ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► away from that and especially since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► most successful version of this the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/563">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► which i think is the google self-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/566">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► cars that tool around their campus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/567">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► hundreds of thousands of miles like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/570">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► that's that's the one that the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/571">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► stories loved the site like however many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► thousands upon thousands of miles Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► self-driving cars have driven just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► know I never had like you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► accident or something that was a human's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► fault or whatever like that the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► driving record in the amazing technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► like wow well if that's happening in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► magical Silicon Valley surely it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► only be a couple of years before I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► able to go to work in a self-driving car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► and it just comes down to the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/594">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► conditions and the way the the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► about so the Google self-driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/602">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► they mapped out every inch of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► friggin roads and the cars no not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► which you know where the roads are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► a GPS style map but i think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► like 3d terrain maps of every inch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► the roads may have you know a lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► weather and they have lines painted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► the road and I have other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► you know it'sit's california for crying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/619">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► environments and google has not map 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► laser mapped every inch of pavement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► everywhere and another point of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► that can drive it out their markers got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► one now we'll stay in the lane as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► as you can if you can figure out where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► the lanes are and you know there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► snow covering the road and always that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► you know all these other factors but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► can't read a magazine because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► doesn't hasn't gone that last that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► last little bit right and last little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► bit of killer you can make increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► sophisticated it's essentially smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► cruise control but to get over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► hurdle where you don't have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► attention anymore in the same way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► don't have to pay attention when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► because you're not driving the train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/662">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► right that is going to take a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► really long time and i'm going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► probably not within our lifetimes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/668">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► Wow because every special road sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► especially mapped roads may be but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/675">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► when I mean existing roads in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► road that a human could drive on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► now that's not specially prepared that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► has been carefully mapped out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/684">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► doesn't have things embedded in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/685">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► pavement like all those things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/686">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► do like you know it's not saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► can't have this man they could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► could do that to every single Road in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► all of Manhattan and then you just know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► that if you go to Manhattan there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► more taxes you just get there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► self-driving car because it's a grid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/696">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► I can do whatever they want and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► circumstances it can work but in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► I think it's so far off because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► just so much harder problem than winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► jeopardy or playing go or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► that because the possible inputs are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► incredibly varied humans have difficulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► sometimes finding where the whole road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► is and we're pretty good at looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► the world and figure out what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► it is we're looking at so i think full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► self-driving cars in the way that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/726">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► yeah I don't think it's that far off i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► lifetimes but you know I think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► people are thinking this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► come in like 25 years and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► probably more like 10 to 20 it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► for me to say more than 20,000 our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► lifetimes like I think we'd be pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/744">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► darn old because you need you just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► so much and it's not just the tech like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► even if the tech gets there in 25-30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► years then you need all the legislation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► and then you need all the other like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► think it'll be fine that like it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/757">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► self-driving cars would like see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► didn't successful having cars are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/765">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► to come but they're totally there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► sure they're in all of London there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/767">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► Manhattan they're over there in disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► parks like there were there wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► there are there all over Silicon Valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► but I mean like a car dropping on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► road the United States and it drives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► is able to successfully get from point A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/779">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► to point B and maybe you don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► get all the way there but i think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► controlled circumstances laser map roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► and then fast forward a couple years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/789">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► and I just don't see that happening just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► because the like we did you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► don't think we have the we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► the know-how the technology for that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/800">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► vehicles try today they've come so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► but it's it's kind of like a I wear when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► I was a kid it was like computers can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► answer simple questions now and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► they're about as smart as a cockroach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/812">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► and if we extrapolate from current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/813">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► trends by the time you're an adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► computers will be super geniuses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► they're not AI is really really hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► we don't understand even our own minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► work and it's not easy to you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► it's unlike all the other situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► like games like chess and go in jeopardy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► it's not a controlled situation is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/830">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► synthesizing sensor input and processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/833">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► freakin brains do that we don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► have a good model to work off of so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/840">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► should we were working off our brain now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► different we're trying the best we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► but i think it's much harder problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/846">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► then the news media thinks it is do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► know when the bear with me for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► supercharger started getting installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► that was like couple years ago right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► maybe three or four years ago right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► one of the things that I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/860">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► completely not feasible is that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/865">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► charging stations to make it feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► and one company as of the time record is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► claiming 613 supercharger stations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► i'm looking at this map and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► over the United States there's some in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► Europe and Asia as well and they're sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► 3628 superchargers across those 613 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► stations and so this is surely not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/889">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► coverage that gas stations have but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► is a tremendous amount of coverage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► the United States which is not a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/898">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► country and so I think about that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► think well they really did kind of fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/902">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► this problem and then I think to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► well let's assume for a second that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/905">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► order to get totally self-driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► you need to put you know sensors on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► on the sides of each Road in in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► admittedly there are many gazillions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► miles of roadway in the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► and but what if we just said hey on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► you know federally-recognized interstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► we're going to put the sensors necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► to get self-driving cars on there if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► can put a whole bunch of superchargers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► out there in the span of about four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► we might be able to do this thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/935">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► completely implausible but I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/940">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► that the superchargers or what is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► the superchargers was implausible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► that seems to Fort alright so you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► well I think you're overestimating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► superchargers because first off you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/949">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► impressive until you were to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► stations so sure you get a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► amount of time and gas stations you felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/958">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► gas stations you're not there at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► pump for very long right so do the math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► on that you know if we convert all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► cars to electric coming out is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► enough superchargers to support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► maybe but charging the test was takes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► much longer that you would need more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► supercharging stations not fewer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► support the number of cars if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► eventually to become all-electric so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► not saying it's you know it's an amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► feat and surely enough for long car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► trips for the number of people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► testicles right now right but it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► far from you know that and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► fairly easy problem the grand scheme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► it's just keep making more of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► stations and you keep selling more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► the cars and the corresponding stations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► and you know it should all work out so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► think it's totally feasible as would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► putting things in the roads are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► what you need to do especially limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► scope just New York City just london or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► especially ones with not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► weather but then you look at how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► United States government spends money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► and we can't even keep our bridges from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► falling into rivers can can't fill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► potholes that are covering every street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► you know so it had in the past couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► decades the US has not been really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► about infrastructure spending so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► definitely technology is a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► in the chat room trying to send me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► videos ever seen this video have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► seen this video like things that look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► impressive and controlled circumstances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► don't necessarily translate to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► test of drop his car onto any road in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► the entire United States and it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► drive you to anywhere else in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► States it's it's a very complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► well the thing is to like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► these are very infrastructure heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► problems if you get if you start getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► into like you know fixing the roads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► improving the roads to be more friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► like the reason why superchargers could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► get built and cover a big portion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► country and useful way is because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► don't have to put one under every square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► foot of road you can kind of cherry pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► where they go and they serve wide areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► whereas anything that involves modifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► the roads themselves or just even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► Johnson they just bring the roads up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► standards of like basic maintenance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► yeah looks like the lines on the road we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► tend to paint those so much in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► exactly so like basic things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► it's easy it you wouldn't need to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► advanced sensors and everything on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► highways because the highways are easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► for self-driving cars to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► I mean my test can do that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► already fairly well like the highway is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► the hard part is all the other roads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► you know it sounds like it's there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► such a hard problem because the roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► countries but the cars in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► especially when you're recording where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► me and John live in the northeast where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► everything is ancient and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► budget to fix anything it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► really hard problem that like the roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► that I encounter everyday are filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► with like weird little edge cases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► conditions unmaintained portions or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► vague things like am I supposed to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► that Lane to go over there or not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► it's hard even for humans to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► and so to make AI algorithms to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► navigate these things is just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► hard and I do think you know similar i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► do think it is possible i do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► we are making progress in that area and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► I do expect to see meaningful progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► in that area within 10 to 20 years but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► i really think it's not as close as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► lot of people think just because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► so hard and that last mile of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► ninety-five percent of the roads is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► heck of a lot easier than making sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► that you can self drive on a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► percent of the roads and then parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► lots think of parking for cryin out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► how to find your way into the parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► lots of which way you go in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► like you know like there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► miniature road signs that aren't real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► road signs and the lines they paint in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► parking lots are almost meaningless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► where do you go and are you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► not that they would suddenly kill people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► in parking lots that would be more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► electric car gridlock as they all are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► paralyzed by indecision about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► supposed to go and thinking they arrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► like this again what I'm thinking of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► not the situation where the car can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► the driving for you for a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► portion of time but the idea where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► don't have to have a driver's license to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► get from place to place in a car you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► don't need a driver's license to get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► the subway and get places right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► public transportation that's truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► driverless as far as the passenger is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► concerned our bus or whatever greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► there's somebody driving those foot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► most cases are not always in trains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► because you can make trains driverless a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► lot easier because their tracks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► everything but it's like to get to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► the big winner of saying we are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► society where I just types tab something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► on my phone and a magic personal asst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► the vehicle comes and I get in and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► vehicle doesn't care whether have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► license or have ever driven that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► seems so close to some people like 35 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► years away surely and it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► seems so incredibly far away to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► because think of it you can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► extrapolation thing like in the sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► movies where they'll have a premise for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► a sci-fi movie that's for the purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► of the movie like this thing is possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► but they never say well if it's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► to do this say making you know robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► look just like humans that fool humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► if it's possible to do that what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► must be possible given that technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► like what does it mean to have that talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► technology so soft driving cars if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► you're able to get a car that can drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► anywhere as well as it is a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► human what else month that must that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► available like would be slavery to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► that kind of intelligence drive a car if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► it truly is able to is their way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► intelligent as as a human and ok gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► don't hold your breath but you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► really awesome cruise control and can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► maybe take your hands off the wheel on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► the highway for a long time and maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► you live in a major metropolitan area or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► silicon valley you don't have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► license at all within similar city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► limits all perfectly possible but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► would still bother to get your license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► because it will give you more freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► then the alternative until then i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► temporarily take my hands off the wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► for three seconds while straight highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► 21 kappa tightly capped drink you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► you say that but that is a that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► pretty nice change yeah I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► done these squeeze that's that I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► squeezed between your thighs and hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► you don't spill approach numerous times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► and a given my history I can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► about how well that works out really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► anonymous applecare senior advisor wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► in to tell us that applecare uses text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► expander was that was the impression I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► got from this email that's what you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► it seemed like it was it was maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► necessarily the official tool they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► but that it was widely used and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► means that comes up as in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► enterprise software people using a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► call center so on and so forth and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► other point this anonymous person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► brought up was the applecare prohibits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► the use of any third party sync service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► that could contain confidential or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► internal or customer data now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► textexpander sync service that qualifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► for it was obviously customer data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► wouldn't be in there but maybe internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► data like maybe part of your little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► proprietary data or whatever this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► tricky bit with enterprise software that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► a lot of people drop like texts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► everyone's to go enterprise one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► Enterprise IT people always want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► everything in-house so I want to run my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► own sync server and all by piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► hardware and i'll put a server on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► I don't want my company's data going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► your server sex offender because i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► no idea what's going on your service and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► for compliance reasons and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► it has to all be internal so text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► expander will you please sell me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► internal TextExpander sync server that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► will run and text vendor as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► know has not gone that far down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► enterprise rabbit hole but if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► to keep customers like applecare and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► they're going to force everyone to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► thinking because that's their your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► premier feature for enterprises they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► our first concert tonight is hover hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► is the best way to buy and manage domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► names to hover com and use promo code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► alexa play fish for ten percent off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► oh when you have a great idea you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► memorable however gives you exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► you need to find the perfect domain for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► your ideas you can get started actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► working on it never gives you easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► use powerful tools to buy a managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► domain so anyone can do it and support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► he was always ready if you need a hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► however known for their no wait no hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► no transfer phone service so when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► call a real live human being is ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► help plus the great online tutorials and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► email support if you hate the phone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► me now less than five minutes you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► find the domain name you want and get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► up and running with hover all you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► to do a search for a few keywords and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► however will show you the best available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► options across all the crazy domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► extensions out there now if you forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► remain anywhere else you know that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► can be a very unpleasant experience at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► other registrar's to make it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1498">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► complicated or it may be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► scary feeling and you just want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► what you need and get out of there may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► be no they try to upsell you with crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► stuff that you're not really sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► they make you pay extra for things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► upgrade that you think should come for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► however does not believe any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► stuff they don't believe in heavy-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► upselling and they don't believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► crappy designer making you feel scammed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► instead of charging you for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► that should be their biggest include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► everything you need with your domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► name you get a smart control panel who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► is privacy always for free and they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► offer a free Valley transfer service you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► can skip the hassle trying to move a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► whole bunch of domains over there one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► that you have a whole bunch they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► actually if you want to they will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► your login information for your old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► record store and do the entire transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► for you and make sure that they get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► the dns and everything so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► break actually break anything so check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► hover is great they have email hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► if you need that it you know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► reasonable prices they are twenty bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► a year into a fully functional email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► account and remain with 10 gigs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► storage you can pay more 29 bucks year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► for the big mailbox which is a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► terabyte of storage and if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► email forwarding just five bucks a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► check this out today go to hover com and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► use promo code alexa play fish for ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► percent off your first purchase thanks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► lot to hover for sponsoring our show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► are the trolius of all the trolls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► by the way we're getting some real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► follow-up from several different sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► that says apple does have a site license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► for text expander so it is at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► partially blessed from what I'm told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► in any case market wanted to tell us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► your quest for more home automation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► excuses to get more home automation sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► surveillance camera what is surveilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► ok anything else you'd like to add is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► last year we had a a duck that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► laying eggs and nesting in our backyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and then the ducklings all hatched and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► they all got to the nearby hudson river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► and we actually found a few months later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► we finally kind of where they lived it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► sits near park that we sometimes go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► and yeah they all seem to survive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► pretty great so that came back this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► to lay eggs in the same spot again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► guess this is a thing ducks do once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► find a good spot they'll come back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► next year and lay more eggs there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► ordered a whole bunch of home camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► equipment IP camera equipment to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► the duck and to check on the duck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► then if I can figure out a decent way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► do it to possibly live broadcast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► this is kind of another part of of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► recent discovery that everything outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► the apple ecosystem costs nothing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► ridiculously like capable cheap hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► out there to do things that used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► really complicated or impossible so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► first of all my my Wi-Fi doesn't reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► the backyard very well so the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► thing i did was i ordered another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► wireless access point from ubiquity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► i don't think i've talked about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► ubiquity gear on the show yet have I not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► to my recollection so a couple of maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► a year and a half two years ago and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► something like that my apple airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► extreme started becoming flaky and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► is a this makes me said the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► extreme is used to be rock-solid they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► used to be like the best route as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► not only have they fallen behind on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► lot of the features and at then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► were never amazing on the features but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► competitive in the past but also i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► reliability in the last maybe five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► or so you're talking about the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► you gave me using that's the one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► yep I mean well you know so far I'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► that but like my previous flat one last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► a really long time and I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► turned out to be wrong with it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► stupid power brick which really isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► the fault of the overall thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► wasn't plugged into a surge strip so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► it's probably nobody's also i I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► very good luck with with the airports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► so if I'm gonna have a long enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► say one way or the other but so far it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► been just as solid as all the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► and i remember when you you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► about getting this ubiquity gear Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► marcos found some way to spend more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► money on computer equipment is working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► surprise there but actually less money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► out there like that maybe um and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► interested in a kind of but there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► think the reason I keep coming back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► the airport ones is because of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► integrations that I have with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► every time I look up how to do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► integration with other things it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► seems ever so slightly more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► not much more complicated like oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► you know I want to hook my printer up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► it to USB this one doesn't have a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► port but you can buy little dongle five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► dollars that lets you do that i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► that will work fine but if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► you might have tried different dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► and you know does how do i connect to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► don't have to come bring up somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► web UI or to get to use the shiny apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► airport whatever thing so i'm i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► mostly open to the idea of sort of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► reliable enterprise callable or router [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► type equipment but i guess i need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► apple stuff to be crappier first I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► it really started to really start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► flaking out on me but so far I think I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► like three of them in my life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► they've all lasted just until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► really need to be replaced anyway and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► far you told them pretty well tow good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► enjoy it with its fan silent silent fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► or I'm old enough now that I can hear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► let the eggs either way you win but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► so the thing with you here is that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► of all a huge warning there's a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► learning curve and there's some weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► java based software that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► install when you first set up a whack a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► wireless access point not the router the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► router come out cannot be done web-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► matter does not include whack these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► separate components like they originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► long long ago used to always be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► the components are all separate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► there is a learning curve i would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► recommend that you like you know tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► your non-technical friends or relatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► i'll just go out and buy the ubiquity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► gear no don't do that but if you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► to the show you could probably handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► i I didn't have any trouble with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► I'm not you know I'm a computer nerd I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► networking gear expert but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► things that can do that i just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► software that manages the installation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► of the laps if you don't do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► crazy features you don't need to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► that software continuously where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► do you run it on where is it where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► run continuously on one of your clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► on the router on the access point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► understand where it's running any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► computer so it can rate you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► java-based there's a mac version so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► i installed i have on my laptop so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► want to put job my desktops but so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► software that i don't but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► necessarily trust like crazy chinese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► jailbreak apps and Java which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► categorized together at and anyway some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► people running on like linux cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► service you can like running online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► interpreters and you have to be in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► network necessarily i'd i haven't gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► that advance with it but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► really matter anyway so you set this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► stuff up and once you set it up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► basically don't have to touch it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► also once you set it up things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► because of this dot camera setup thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► wanted to expand my Wi-Fi coverage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► more than one access point and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► made this easy in the past to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► recognize that but ubiquity makes it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► possibly even easier that you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► plug in the access point you just add it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► to the network with like two clicks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► then it's just part of the network and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► it brought and so any changes you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► to the Wi-Fi network to if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► propagates like it its you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► manage one network and it applies to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► the access points are on it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► it features that i am not even qualified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► to describe because i said i'm not a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► network engineer so I i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► know everything these things can do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► don't appreciate everything these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► can do but i do know that they compete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► high-end cisco routers and and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► enterprise-grade stuff but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► surprisingly cheap so the a Wi-Fi access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► point is usually around a hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► and when you get it you know in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► range and the the router is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► just as dedicated little box that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► doesn't have wireless itself it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► router the router that i get it i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► the the ER light 3-2 edge router like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► three and i think that's like 80 or 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► bucks so if you're looking at total of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► about 200 bucks to get a router plus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► decent access point and it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► awesome it is solid the gear so far I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► had no problems I've never had to reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► I have once or twice rebooted it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► I thought it might be the cause of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► problem and that but it just wasn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► I recruited and it came back up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► that's right it was the finest problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► so it's so I there has literally never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► been a problem that i have traced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► this routing gear and it's never been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► problem that rebooting fixed its it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► just rock solid and i know i'm not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► only one because you look at the reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► of the all the ubiquity gear and it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► people love this stuff and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► complaint people have is learning curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► and that java software to set up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► if you can get past those things is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► awesome how many how many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► it's it's not really made to be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► built-in switch like because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► every it's like if you ever set up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► a pfsense router and put that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► think it has three or four ports on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► maybe three but they're all separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► interfaces so you could like have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► two inbound connections and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► bridge them or you couldn't you can load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► balance between them instead you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► configure it how you want but for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► cases you're only going to want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► one in one out and then you and I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► separate little HP switch next to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► that's the other category of software or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► hardware that I have you talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► USB hubs and now it's hard to find good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► whatever my latest not a white whale are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► my latest the thing to battle is network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► switches XP done i'm telling HP switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► are awesome but do they make a my big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► thing is heat and power supply noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► blade or not the 1i have a feeling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► the show it's a little tiny 8-port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► gigabit one it is not like a full-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► one I don't think there's any fan and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► don't think there's room for one the HP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► procurve 1410 dash 8 g now that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► switched all the stuff like maybe a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► and a half two years ago and I've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► just had zero problems with the network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► recommend ubiquity gear enough if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► are a geek enough to be willing to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► that up so you we somehow ended up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► this in talking about the camera so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► said you had started looking into it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► you we we had you had started looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► into broadcasting the dock to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► internet and you decided to abandon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► or at least temporarily abandon it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► so you know I wanted to have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► of live webcam kind of thing IP camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► kind of thing looking at the duck nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► area both for potential future live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► broadcasting to nobody in the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► and also just for like me and Tiffany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► like you know take our phones and check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► out his is the dark outside the Ducks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► outside you know maybe we won't let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► dog out yet or we just want to know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► when it has the dot-com last night when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► did any raccoons try to eat the duck so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► I set up this camera and you know you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► amazon you try to find an IP camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► hi it is really hard to figure out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► what makes a good IP camera so the one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► got is the tree is a try vision on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► amazon it was very highly rated it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► okay they the colors on it suck but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► resolution is decent has built in Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► built-in web server and all this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► garbage like ftp server and SD card slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► and you can upload to an ass if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► to its it just crazy and it's of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► outdoor capable and what makes you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► super easy is not only does it support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► Wi-Fi which is one reason i was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► to sell my Wi-Fi network bye-bye more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► ubiquity here looks as well how about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► yes yes yes that's right it's a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► one of these APIs cameras it has it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► yep how everything over ethernet or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► worse just ethernet and power separately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► but this one has all those things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► can do PE you can and power reason it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► also very awesome you have internet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► and you have a little AC adapter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► then out you have just ethernet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► power on the unused pins of it it allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► you to run just one cable to things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► need that can take the power reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► and then that can then supply power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► data to them so it's often used for IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► cameras also often used for wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► access points and all the biggies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► wireless access points do this and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► usually come with a little injector that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► you need you can have a wireless access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► point somewhere in a ceiling or up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► wall wherever and you only run one cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► and that cable can be as long or short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► as an ethernet cable needs to be and can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► be so you can have a very long cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► that you just have one thing to and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► have power and data in that one cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► it's great so that's right it's with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► with the camera i originally ran over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► it was kind of cutting out and wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► correct quite great deal i didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► the second access point yet it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► was there was a shipping delay on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► because everybody's buying these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► all at once so I ran power reset to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► using a powerline adapter kit to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► outside in the first place so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► this is all this massive pile of complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► technology home powerline networking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► running into a power of power over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► ethernet injector that spans ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► cable across my patio that into a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► that is showing a picture of my dog live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► to my desktop and recording on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► motion all this stuff was like a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► of a couple hundred dollars and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► these amazing things of showing me live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► video the duck my backyard without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► whole lot of wiring without a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► of effort and in pretty impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► quality know what are you using to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► the motion detection and recording that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► this is the the area of surveillance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► type software like any kind of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► that can back and display IP camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► feeds and record them and possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► detect motion on them and save them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► certain conditions this is not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► area of software there's very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► choices the choices that are out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► seemed not amazing and I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► name names in case someone listens who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► writes one you can just assume i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► find yours they're there they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► great but these are great software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► packages and then I i briefly looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► into what would I do if I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► stream this the internet and one way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► do it is the camera itself has it built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► in our something MP whatever protocol is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► like the streaming protocol for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2398">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► video it has a built-in server for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► but hey i don't think it can really take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► a whole bunch connections at once and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► i don't really want to have everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► hitting my home IP directly I'd rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► like relayed through a server somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► and then that provides both a level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► interaction for the home IP as well as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► capacity like to you know similar to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► we went we broadcast the show live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► I'm bouncing this off of my webserver my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► market or web server because that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► that is connected to this giant Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► backbone that relays the audio to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► everybody in a way fat way higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► capacity method than what i can do from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► the options to do that for video seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► pretty slim and usually have Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► pricing call us and you know if you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► more than one live you were a time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► need to call us or well that'll be three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► or you know someone crazy crazy money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► many of them are like entire video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► platforms where if you you want to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► if you want to transfer translate from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► your or whatever MP video stream to a to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► a video feed online people can just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► to and see all that that will use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► thousands of dollars and call surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► it's kind of a mess i did find YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► live streaming it seems it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► like periscope and that like you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► a live broadcast but then it wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► like then save that as a video on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► account so it probably doesn't want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► live broadcast like a month-long that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► probably won't work and then to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► get youtube another pilot acts where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► have to use the open broadcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► whatever whatever whatever called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► OBS yeah the open market server that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► to window capture something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► viewing the IP camera like a browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► window or something and then rebroadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► to youtube live so this is like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► gonna do this we're gonna actually live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► broadcast this it's gonna basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► require like a computer dedicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► this task 24-7 or as long as live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► broadcasting and I just don't want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► computers to dedicate to that and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► did you look into this has nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► with live broadcasting but just for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► surveillance station on your Synology I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► did but the the list of cameras that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► takes did not include the 1i got and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► including any of the ones that seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► highly rated on amazon right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► also my synology the only i use almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► none of the software on it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► only drive i really value my have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► formatted on this technology in its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► native format is my time machine volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► because it's that the synology time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2568">TS</a>]
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00:42:54 ◼ ► time machine from implementation and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2574">TS</a>]
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00:42:59 ◼ ► machine thing that they built into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2579">TS</a>]
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00:43:05 ◼ ► were solved then then a time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► server on a mac mini or time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2587">TS</a>]
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00:43:13 ◼ ► uses for their time machine server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2593">TS</a>]
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00:43:18 ◼ ► whole thing to actually make time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2598">TS</a>]
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00:43:25 ◼ ► quota set so that me and tiff share one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► volume its i'm amazed it works as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2607">TS</a>]
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00:43:31 ◼ ► other time machine options but it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2611">TS</a>]
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00:43:43 ◼ ► know dumb box to the technology so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2623">TS</a>]
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00:43:48 ◼ ► time machine space to this so i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► well I ask because my dad set up an IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► camera with power over ethernet at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► and has an ancient ipad just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► there streaming it in his office so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► can see when if people are coming up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2645">TS</a>]
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00:44:19 ◼ ► seen it although i've not played with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2659">TS</a>]
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00:44:29 ◼ ► nothing you can really do about that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2669">TS</a>]
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00:44:32 ◼ ► with regard to your volume set up but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2672">TS</a>]
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00:47:32 ◼ ► have to decide what to cook every night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► for the family but it also really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2854">TS</a>]
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00:48:12 ◼ ► at it for the year and they start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2892">TS</a>]
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00:49:38 ◼ ► if you came on for later but I'd i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► it's worth at 40 is a nice round number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► i think it's worth at least reflecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► on the the first 40 years of apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► any kind of sort of like for you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► you look at it what stands out in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► memory as important whether you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► involved an apple or not and have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► your memories are only from like 2004 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► that's fine but i figure it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► taking this time to look back and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► about what you know what what important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► things apples that's kind of like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► is a great way to put it like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► like a celebrity or something dies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► they have their obituaries like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► first couple sentences of the obituary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► you know kind of have the highlights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► so apples not dead and we're not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► to write an obituary for but we can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► back on the first 40 years and say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► that happened there to you personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► not just like we're not gonna say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► well you know it's important for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► history of computing XYZ but to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► personally what do you think was a what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► weighs heavily on your mind when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► think of the first 40 years of apple now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► you know my experience with Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► probably very similar to many people my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► Max and I guess the apple to at school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► and that was it until much later in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► life and so my earliest memories of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► Apple were playing oregon trail like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► many kids my age did I also vividly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► remember when i was in i believe middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► school I was already showing an affinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► and a love for computers and i ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► being like kind of a volunteer like pee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► on for the computer lab administrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► and they were running some flavor of Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► I'm sorry John and Stephen Hackett I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► couldn't tell you what kind of mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► was but they were running max and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► remember vividly like being able to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► password that they trusted with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► middle schooler for some stupid reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► and I couldn't really do much with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► but i thought i was so cool because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► it and the thing that sticks out in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► mind even to this day like 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► later is we all had to like buy a floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► disk or one of the three and a half inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► disk so wasn't even floppy but anyway we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► are divided floppy disk and we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► documents on it because that was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► than enough room for years with school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► documents and I remember someone had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► shown me or somehow I figured out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► set the icon for the disk so when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► put the disc into the mac in any mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► would like it instead of being a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► grey icon or whatever it was by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► mine would be like really bright blue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► something like that or maybe it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► entirely different icon altogether blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► disc stood yea trained exactly hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► remember figuring out how to do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► god I thought I was hot stuff because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► disk when it was on the desktop look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► different than everyone else's aren't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► a badass and I just remembered that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► vividly and I have some other memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► but but they're more of like modern era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► so Marco let me give you and then John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► as well a chance to kind of cover the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► the the let's call it the pre-2000 era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► what does your hard disk icon looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► like right now on your Mac oh it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► on my desktop in the one in finders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► whatever the default is what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► you were you were there you were blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► disc stud and it and the same exact you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► could do the same feature has lived on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► through the various versions of the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► operating system to today or you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► probably an even easier way that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► back then depending on how far actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► was probably the same way because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► not that old i think it was about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► same way was like get info and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► just drag competition just copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► paste right yeah maybe that's what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► used to be more difficult they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► that the copy and paste feature in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► later version of that conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► either way I'm excited that you did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► like that that's definitely a Mac user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► kind of thing to do like that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► your thing to look nice and you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► it and as you noted it's not as if well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► I wouldn't say it look nice i'm sure was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► god awful hideous but it was mine and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► it's not as if that was just a change on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► your computer he brought us to any mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► you should be doing that I all of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► hard drives have been named fancifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► and have had custom icons do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► thing for most of my folders back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► day although now that the finder is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► enemy that doesn't well but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► still battle in this way there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► I also rocked the standard disc and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► also is no desktop haha oh goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► alright so Marco what was your like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► experience with the mac it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► wasn't the mac it was the Apple to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► and this might sound more impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► than it was because my first experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► the Apple to was around nineteen ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► it's okay it was you know already what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► 12 years old something by then right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► nice so it my experience was I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► went to a very poor and not very like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► scientifically advanced elementary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► school so the the computers they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► they did have computers they had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► computer lab that had maybe I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► 15 computers in it and they were all old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► donated Apple tues by the time i was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► maybe fifth sixth grade so what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► like if I was born 82 when is that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► 91 and you something like that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► roughly and I just play games on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► I'm not gonna try to say my version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► how to pronounce that state name i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► i'm gonna get it wrong also but I is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► pronounced worcester yeah it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► trail it's it's either oregon or again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► is the only two ways i've ever heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► I'm gonna use either of those anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► God but it's so played that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► another you know math lectures and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► other like you know games that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► supposed to be educational that weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► really and had fun with that in seventh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► grade my friends and I he was a mac nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► at the time and he this was in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► nineteen ninety-five or something he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► a laptop in class all the time as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► seventh-grader what's so they were some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► kind of arrangement he had with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► school with his parents in school that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► he was allowed to have a laptop for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► I don't details anyway he had a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► and we would program on on that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► kind of learned basic and then there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► this Apple two in the back of the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► and you know it is like we just move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► around because it was some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► whatever mac laptop would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► it was great i don't know we play on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► that he had real basic on there we play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► a real basic on that and then in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► back of the room there's ancient Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► to that no one else in the class knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► what to do with except me and him so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► would deal with stupid things like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► would like make it right a for loop to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► place and just leave you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► really kind of course like infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► loops and you know try to show a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► graphics on there and stuff and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► mess around and then he really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► the after that I I kind of didn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► Apple computers for a long time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► i never had one for that whole time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► it was until after college I got one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► that whole time Apple computers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► seen as like kind of a tragedy if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► had one because it was like oh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► know all of us were over here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► oh that guy oh he he just has he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► mac and it was kinda like oh hehe can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► play any good games and we kind of feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► bad for him because he has the mac this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► politics the tragedy if you had one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► that you played with the Apple to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► before before i got my own in in 2004 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► yeah I guess I mean I guess that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► more sense than kc story where he saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► the the max and the cool disk icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► yet you didn't really they didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► enough of an impression on you two for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► you to 2% I guess you had your your IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► father that was really going to prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► you from ever getting into max until yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► no I'm it wasn't I don't think he ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► prevented it but there were always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► thinkpads just hanging out around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► house and I had a laptop or desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► now granted they were all typically very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► old and out of date but they were mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► and and I didn't share them with anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► and so I grew up on predominantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► thinkpads and nothing about the mac ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► really called to me like I respected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► that that little bit of customization I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► thought that was cool i remember vaguely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► trying to like skin windows XP look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► a Mac from time to time like I would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► this this kick would get on this kick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► to try to fake like the Apple menu at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► the top of the screen and in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► icons to make them look like a Mac just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► because I thought it looked good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► inevitably I will always regret that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► because it just what was a total utter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► hack but no wasn't until far later which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► we can get to when we get to the 2004 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► the knots that i really started thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► about the mac again you to her to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► i probably would not have been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► was the amazing thing that that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► because you were just note so content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► with your weird worlds bc is now so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► early early apple for me like I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► did you use Apple tues and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► that Apple tues or not that exciting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► me they didn't seem I mean having call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► upon my Commodores and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► progression there and it was fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► did not make much of an impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► especially probably because most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► Apple tues we had at school or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► monochrome display it just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► character mode programs maybe a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► of games you could even call them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► eventually there was like 2 GS and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► about on TGS was in play in the school's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► I the mac already company so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► the big thing about the mac for me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► I don't understand is that it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► computer that made the statement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► with graphical interface GUI was the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► that we should use computers it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► the first gooey but it was so far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► computer that regular people could buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► or oversold anyone really and it's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► statement was hey guys stop typing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► command prompts do this instead and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► entirety of the computer world said no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► that's not a real computer that's stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► it you can't do anything with it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► you need to have a command prompt I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► don't know what the hell you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► over there apple and even though this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► was a short period of time historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► speaking for the transition for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► whole world to figure it out when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► were in the middle of it it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► the Battle of the century with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► people on the good light side the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► users not one being able to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► how anyone could argue against this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► it wasn't as if they were arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► windows is better or some other GU is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► better their argument was the GUI is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► dumb that you should not use a GUI is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► waste of computing resources and makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► the computer less powerful it will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► it is a pointless diversion it's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► and you should feel bad about using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► computer and stop distracting me and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► have to get your own magazines and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► never gonna hook up Mouse to my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► and all that other stuff and to grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► in that environment kind of like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► grew up in the sort of the the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► antenna console wars was just such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► huge dividing line and this in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► way that I imagine for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► not computer and sports teams might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► dividing line if you grew up in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► mets vs yankees or whatever year your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► sports rivalry is is just imprinted in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► your DNA as a super important thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► eventually a transition to okay fine so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► GU is a reasonable idea but now windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► is better than the mac or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► that became you know the mac vs pc thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► which was another form of tragedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► my original abiding memory of the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► essentially trying to convince other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► computer nerdy people kids and adults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► the GUI itself was a good idea and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► end that you know just try convincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► something like I need you know what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► that argument anymore because no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► ever are using it because it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► ridiculous i thought it was ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► than two and yet people had arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► and you could not convince them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► all they knew was the command line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► they had what they thought were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► solid arguments about like how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► efficient is to memorize the commands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► inward star than it is to like bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► your mouth up to menu was like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► know you're not getting its not on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► micro-level thing a macro level thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► and this helps people use computers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► the idea that every computer was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► to work this way inevitably there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► nothing you could do about it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► were like every computer are you kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► so that is my sort of my core memory in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► I'm Apple was going and I would say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► this day the sort of cohesive pneus of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► the original Matt GUI the only thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► has been matched by I think are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► appliance like devices and iOS because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► there's never been another personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► computer operating systems including Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► os10 that has so fully committed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► graphical user interface to providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► sort of a coherent consistent world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► the computer in which it wasn't an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► something that as far as the user is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► concerned there was nothing underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► there was no way to get underneath there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► was no terminal there was no there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► no command line there was no there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► no filesystem paths visible anywhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► the user interface you know it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► asked a Mac user what the path separator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► was on their operating system personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► don't pass separator as if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► explaining to them they would have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► idea that the colon is used internally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► because you just never ever sought same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► thing with the files and folders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► icons the idea that files and folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► represented you know this little picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► represents your file and this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► picture represents a directory none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► those things represented anything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► there was no in direction it was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► so incredibly consistent in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► that if you were to ask someone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► where is the you know the instagram app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► like oh this little icon represents the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► Instagram no they did not that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► Instagram when I delete that incident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► has gone and what is their the insert I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► have the answer map like that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► solid and there's no command line and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► iOS and there is no way you can see file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► path on iOS start exposing I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► you're else kind of came and screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► for everybody but anyway that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► there was an important part point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► computing history and that was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► important point in my computing history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► as relates to apple or any other company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► has just said that you guys missed it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► guess by my journey and computers began [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► with trying to get stuff to work in das [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► and and i believe was pc Darcy was IBM's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► version of us even when ms-dos was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► thing and and I was annoying my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► constantly asking you know how do i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► this how do i do that i do this happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► that he just got exasperated and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► I'll just read the manual and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► though I was like eight years old he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► said it kind of sarcastically interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► in and i took him at his word and I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► the manual and so I I remember trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► windows 31 and just thinking this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► piece of crap and I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► anyone would use this it's terrible i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► want to go back to toss and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► windows 95 came around it was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► yeah this thing all those mac users were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► all excited about now I get it now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► ain't so bad and look we have a recycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► bin sort of the trash because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► better than they are but it was until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► windows 95 that I really understood what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► the point of it well that's not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► true obviously I was nervous to warp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► user for a while and then I understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► the gooey but but anyway it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► really much of a thing as early as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► was for Mac users and I never really got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► that involved in the debate because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► don't really know any mac users at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► thousands and then let's cover the 2004 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► going to write from this is a pre-2000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► like this something like almost of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► Apple histories and provides giving my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► earliest ones you get referrals runs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► always gonna be home and there's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► much stuff before the 2,000 that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► a lot of Russia old man no no shit no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► like I'm really even though you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► turns into let me reminisce about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► earliest memory of apples I was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► to think of like why when I think back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► on Apple like the sort of milestones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► so that the the mac gooby the mac itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► that computer that gooey that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► first big gigantic tentpole when I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► back of the first 40 years and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► probably people feel like I'm giving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► Apple to short-shrift because that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► important in the history of apples the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► company but i'm not going with like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► was important to the company where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► going like when I look back on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► 40 years of Apple the first big ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► policy is that mac and I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► that tent pole there's a through line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► from that tent pole all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► to the iphone whereas i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► there's a very solid through line from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► the Apple to with expansion cards and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► command line and all and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► really like there's very little about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► the Apple to like the Apple to Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► Wozniak's machine the mac was jobs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► machine right and jobs is the through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► line through the all history of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► and four for better for worse the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► to was kind of an aberration in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► entire line and then that it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► Wozniak's company it became Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► company you know he left he came back he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► brought it back in line or you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► like even he was gone the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► were there in his stead making computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► they were much more jobs like then was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► like a launcher jobs on the unsatisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► as well so that's the first big ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► policy and then you could say and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► fast forward and it's just like ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► iphone right i don't i don't really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► advancements in the middle there sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► like that the heart of the the snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► white design error of max where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► were all kind of platinum colored i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► guess and had slats in them and add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► little rainbow logo on them and no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► else was paying attention to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► Marco feel bad for anyone who had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► but he shouldn't have felt bad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► there were some amazing computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► none of his friends were going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► because they were like ten thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► dollars and then the eighties like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► 1989 actual $10,000 for a computer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► nobody like regular people did not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► these computers which is part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► reasons i lost the deaf and like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► even look like Ferraris with the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► slats on everything like you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► anyone sorry just look at pictures of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► magazines i was like them but the mac to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► FX was like to me actually never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► meet anyone who was actually even touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► one of these computers but I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► out there an existing boys that amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► and I would kill to have that computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► but it cost him maybe wasn't 10,000 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► was like eight thousand dollars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► 1988-89 might as well been 10,000 was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► help was ever gonna get one and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► was no equipment for that to me and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► any other line of computers forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► the GUI and everything like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► that this was like a Ferrari in that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► wasn't like a muscle car which you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► say all I could I could buy a beat-up pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► and built myself and a bold you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► have better specs in my mac to FX if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► you're lucky right that might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► possible but it's not a Ferrari you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► can't build a Ferrari yourself in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► garage out of spare parts you can't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► like a stock mustang and replace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► engine and do custom suspension I got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► own for are you do not you do not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► your own ferrari the high-end max or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► ridiculously expensive and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► beautifully designed and like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► products right you know that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► thing that we love about our products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► today that was there was something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► had back then as well they had became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► beautiful manuals their accessories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► their keyboards and mice the monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► they came with you know that trend tron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► displays when no one else was bothering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► with those things and make the case was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► beautifully matched to the computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► the power cords and just like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► about them they're just they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► I do have two effects now by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► home I got 135 dollars so depreciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► sports stuff but uh I just imagine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► don't quite have my Ferrari yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► maybe someday well but I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► like the second tent pole is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► whole error max when everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► thought max sucks because the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► system was still great windows had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► caught up because they never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► what was truly magical about the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► like the fact that there were no file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► past that there was no command line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► there was no any files and bat files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► I are cues and anything like that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► drivers or any of that crap you had your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► own series of hacks though but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► all of them involve the abstraction grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► we would drag things in and out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► system folder like physically you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► pull this analysis and folder put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► the system folder put in control panels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► folder put in the control panel to sable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► folder but take it out of the extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► folder and reboot like it was all done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► on top of that X abstraction like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► was no there is no command line like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► there was there was no underneath like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► you know obviously you can get at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► addresses and stuff but the abstraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► was so total eventually the detriment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4289">TS</a>]
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01:15:08 ◼ ► the full-size ipods were always a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4508">TS</a>]
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01:15:19 ◼ ► the nano just took it to another level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4519">TS</a>]
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01:18:54 ◼ ► was using it like I got into it slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► i-i-i-ice forgetting i clearly figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► transfer over some some of the things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► do on to this and then over the next I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► don't know year or two around two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► thousand five or so over the next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► too i just stopped wanting to use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► windows pcs it because os10 was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► much better in so many ways and most was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► when I think it still is better just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► think this design considerations the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► things worth technical advancements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► things the respect it shows for users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► and their time and their attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► I just the overall quality of of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► third-party software on the platform it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► it was just so much better than windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► it got to the point where i was when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► was at work one day I i worked at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► company that was developing a search web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► apps like search-based enterprise web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► apps so all i had to do was write code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► in C it didn't really matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► platform i used to write that code and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► needed I needed a terminal window that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► can run VI and then excuse me determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► whether they can run like a run them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► linux servers that we were logging into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► development on and web browser and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► email client that's all i needed so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► those things I got the mac in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► terminal it's actually easier on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► i was using stupid cygwin that work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► that sucks oh yeah exactly so one day at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► work it was when windows XP service pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► 2 came out this is somewhere around two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► dozen five members very specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► service pack 2 introduced a feature if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► there was an update to be installed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► windows update which there always was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► would show boxes saying hey this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► ready to go you want to reboot now or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► and if you didn't click reboot later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► after a certain amount of time maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► couple hours or whatever it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► reboot for you and it would force close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► everything all windows you had open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► would just force close the mall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► forcefully reboot the computer if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► didn't respond this box in a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► number of hours so one day I had a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► tons of stuff open my computer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► went home for the night it was my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► computer and I came back came back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► next morning and it's unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► rebooted the computer and I was so mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► that I just unplug the monitor plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► into my mac that I was being with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► everyday anyway like when I to stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► into my mac keyboard and mouse plug them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► into my mac and just turned off my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► computer and just never use that windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► where computer again after a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► amount of time i did the same thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► home I had this gaming pc ableton home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► basically only to play half-life two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► I eventually just stop wanting to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► that for anything too and so I i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► started using my Mac full time because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► just I didn't want to use windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► anymore it had annoyed me for so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► you know I i had some good times on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► Windows but those times were over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► and it was very very clear from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► 2005 ish forward those times were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► completely over you know I had a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► similar journey into the max so after i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► think it was in school maybe or shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► after I graduated I started running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► ubuntu on my thinkpad and that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► i was using full time at home i was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► windows at work and a bunch of home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► it was working pretty well for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► part this was fairly early in bunches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► history and I was doing a distro upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► from like God gutsy given to hardy heron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► or something like that I forget exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► what it was but I was doing upgrade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► couldn't get my thinkpad to work anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► without like reinstalling everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► I didn't want to go back to windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► because i'd left windows on purpose and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► even though you know linux on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► desktop was and remains a disaster it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► was less with disaster windows but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► in a similar way to what you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► experience on Windows Marco were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► kind of reboot it on you and didn't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► you or didn't give you the chance not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► well i tried to do this upgrade it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► failed miserably and meanwhile i had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► among others Marco whispering in my ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► figuratively speaking you should get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► mac you should get a mac you should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► a mac you should get a mac and I vividly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► remember it was the WTC keynote i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► believe was 2008 i'm almost sure that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► was wdc 2008 I listen to it or fail to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► follow along i guess to make sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► didn't introduce new macs and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► evening I went to the apple store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► bought myself my first mac which was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► polycarbonate macbook or poly book as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► like to call it and that was in 2008 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► I haven't bought a pc sense and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► started an intel yeah yeah it that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► is the same way that John can't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► how late i started I i look at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► difference between John started when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► started was like 20 years and between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► when i started when you start was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► yeah yeah that really is accurate but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► i can understand why you would feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► it was a lifetime difference i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► think i was on leopard i think i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► after tiger when i bought a machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► am i started on whatever 10-3 was called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► I can't forget i keep forgetting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► you guys never read any of my OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► reviews like in real time as they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► released like it only if you would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► look at that would only be like looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► backwards what you said about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► windows like kind of feeling wronged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► feel like I think what crystallized it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► for me was the overall feeling from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► using windows at the time I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► the last version of windows i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► extensively was windows XP so I which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► grants many people are still using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► but I don't know how it's been since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► occasional users here and there but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► impression I got from one up to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► point was just that this was microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► computer and I was along for the ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► like the computer would just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► know if the winners like hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► ok i just go and wait wait i was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► something know we're gonna reboot now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► sorry and you back up and it's like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► no I want to do my work like it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► just always felt like Windows treats the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► computer like it's theirs and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► they're pretty they're putting on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► little show for you and I gonna do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► they're gonna do it without regard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► any respect for you and what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► doing in the working to do whereas max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► and they still have this advantage a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► little not as much but they still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► whole disadvantage the mac respected you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► as the user things out of your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► they're like things like for instance on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► Windows it was a common occurrence for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► some background application to put up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► box that would steal the focus from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► former from the first application and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► you be just typing on all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► you get a different app like wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► the hell happened and it was some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► showed a system model box and took over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► the focus and imax that wasn't possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► but it happened oh just way less often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► max give you the the the impression and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► the design that really left you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► control of your computer and respected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► your time and your attention eh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► wouldn't just like drag you along in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► different things all we hey we got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► to this new thing having a what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► you want to get spammed by this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► offer that we have this nude cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► feature here's here's more balloons to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► profit from the system tray to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► if you if you click on the blue they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► don't go away about a new window so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► gotta figure out where to click on make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► it was just the difference in overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► attitude towards the user and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► experience of being a user of both these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► platforms at the time the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► could not have been more striking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► difference exists today and I i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► know if it's wider or narrower but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► still there as far as i know and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► i think os10 soon to be renamed max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► still has the the advantage there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► significant margin and that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► still use and this is why I like I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► such a fan of the Mack I i know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► less cool these days to be a fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► mac because not only does everybody have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► them but now the future of computing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► not the mac according to everybody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► just don't buy that because I'm such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► huge fan of the mac i love the mac so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► much i still love it to this day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► this is all one of the reasons why i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► so critical when things the mac don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► well when it you know if I start seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► things slipping or things getting worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► everything i do for work for hobbies for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► almost everything i do involves using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► computer and I do not want the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► to be anything else but a Mac I've tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► unfortunately never in linux on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► desktop of my main desktop i use it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► and there like at work and school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► sometimes but I never never and I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► okc but everyone I please I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► Windows is going to have this new linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► subsystem we will talk about if it ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► becomes relevant to us you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► it's still early but I know windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► Adams please please don't emails about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► this week we know thank you very much we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► will talk about it when when the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► comes but i do not want to switch back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► to windows and I think if Mac os10 never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► got so bad that I couldn't use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► I would switch to linux because i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► did run fleeing from windows and as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► as Microsoft has done things in recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► years that are interesting to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► like us they know we always say oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► new thing was interesting and Windows 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► these new things are interesting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► gnu/linux system that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► these are all interesting when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► not using them and they're interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► because we are a distance and people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► use them everyday they're probably a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► less interesting and and from what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► hear from people they read the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► the reviews from all these things are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► mixed and there's so many gotchas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► trade-offs and negatives associated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5336">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► them that it's it sounds to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► Windows is roughly the same that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► always bit where my entire time using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► Windows I had a love-hate relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► with it it was always fine i put up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► it i tolerated it but it had all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► annoyances shortcomings and it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► like that's still what it is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► just how things shift around a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► bit there's different audiences some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► them fix them but have someone added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► sounds like windows from what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► uses it tells me it sounds like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► still about the same just you know think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► things are different but the same but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► the mac i I really feel protective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► because it is my entire computing life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► and I I don't I I neither want that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► change nor do I want the mac to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► I only want them back to get better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► and that that is why you know I every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► time i say anything negative about apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► on the show we hear criticism for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► people complain to us all the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► were that were to negative towards Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► or that we created Apple too much rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► tired of hearing a lot about especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► focused towards me but this is why I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► it because I love this platform so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► I depend on the platform so much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► nothing else out there is good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► you know you mentioned when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► respecting the user and you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► feeling like you're using someone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► computer and like the computer microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► was in control of the computer and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► just happened to be there and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► tolerate your some period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► it's once again reminded of how sad mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► it's probably your age but also partly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► but that you were alive when using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► computers during the age when the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► even more like this for the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► that popped in my mind I they gave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► original example of the computer not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► respecting what you were doing whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► it's like old man voice time was and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► could name it whatever you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► I mean you guys never you lived through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► it but you didn't live through it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► user there are when I mean it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► files and folders right but you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► name files whatever you wanted and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► of the computing world has never lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► on a system where that's true that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► file the file name was you just type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► stuff there right sentences spaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► punctuation no Colin's that will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► substitute hyphen most people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► notice that one but you but slashes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► if you want to put dates whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► wanted except for this one special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► yeah yeah all that that's the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► thing they wouldn't it wouldn't be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► you would just suddenly turned into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► hyphen and and you know but mostly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► I remembering dates like you do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► month day year and the you know typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► us date type thing with / and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► most of the time you just typing words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► there but the whole point is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► file name was entirely the users domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► you could you name your hard drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► whatever you want you can name your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► files whatever you wanted and I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► mean my hard drives whatever I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► call them my name my files and folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► in sentences with capital letters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► each word and spaces between them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► punctuation and that was a freedom that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► essentially we had for this brief moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► in time is mostly gone now in any system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► that forces us to deal with the files at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► all I mean I guess the freedom and iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► like all your files at all now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► free don't feel better but that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► taken away because it was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► things that didn't carry over from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► classic Mac Mac os10 it's one things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► that has never existed in Windows or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► yeah whatever you guys missed it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► great it was glorious and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► I don't know who ever lived to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► again when will i have when will someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► rediscover that I guess maybe they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► rediscover it in the context where files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► are no longer thing I know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► jury's still out on that we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► about it so much about how iOS does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► hiding the file system from people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► yet the file system is such a flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► way files and folders to solve so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► problems that you either have to end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► recreating the file system in the form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► of a new abstraction that isn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► directly back by the file system but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► just gives people to arrest you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5578">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► like springboard is a great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► folders you know they call them folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► just for historical reasons if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► to plop someone down in 2007 that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► springboard not 2007 I guess they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► they call those folders they don't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► anything like folders and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► really behave anything like that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► you got to explain desktop metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► yet you re creating something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► but it's not quite the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► doesn't have the same flexibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► being able to name things and save them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► somewhere and and organize them and pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► them back up so it could be that no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► ever hesitation to use that but if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► turns out that that type of arrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► really is the best way we come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► for people to arbitrarily arrange stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► on their computing device maybe it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► come back again but boy it was great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► I still think about it every time I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► like a a hidden file name extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► comes out and scares me or incorrect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► file an extension causes an icon to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► chosen the file to have the wrong icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► application by what a mess so just annoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► you John like all kidding aside that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► that Marco and I especially I especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► me are so new to the platform like does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► that frustrate you because we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► that that we didn't go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► crappy time like you did now it's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► I i tried the thing that bothers me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► most is the time when you guys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► alive and using computers but weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► using that all the things that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► things that you like about Max were true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► and Pat perhaps like it's that perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► and yet you weren't like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► wasted time like you could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► using max but you weren't for a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► silly reason right that's fair that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► although i don't know if you would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► you know 10 or 12 year old me in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► of a mac at home like not at school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► because I enjoyed using at school I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► it was a it was a neat little diversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► but if you put me in front of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► those at home I don't think I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► like even you know an equivalently aged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► you was like i don't i don't want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► the math in my head but however old you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► were when the mac was new was young as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► far as i remember as far as I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► and so you appreciate it even has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► younger age are at a younger age you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► appreciated much better than I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► would have if I were in your shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► not I I think you would I think you both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► had you both had and have the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► the sensibilities to appreciate it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► mean speaking more realistic me that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► my experience has been whenever I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► someone over my house who was a hardcore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► PC user like a friend or whatever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► totally into be seized and thought max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► were junk i could blow their mind with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► the things i did with my computer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► my computer was black-and-white the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► that the pixels are so friggin microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► was the retina screen of the day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► had never seen experience with pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► the smaller the sharp like I would blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► their mind with black-and-white games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► you know I games and inequity talk how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► could you blow their mind with the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► they're playing doom right the pixels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► the size of boulders right i would blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► their mind by having multiple screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► and arranging them was like the displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► control panel like there were so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► things I could do that would just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► their heads explode and they were their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► drawers would drop it was just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► farther ahead of anything we had ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► did that mean they were gonna go home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► and buy a mac know because max where max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► or a bajillion dollars there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► avoiding this like they were just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► much more expensive and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► themselves are so much more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► back then it's not like you had each kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► had their own computer like the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► had one computer was like a car you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► it wasn't like you just bought a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► every year hoping this would be for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► upgrade cycle and the internet and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► stuff so realistically speaking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► how made somebody was by my mac they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► not going to go home and say hey mom can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► nineteen eighties money computer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► were like what are you talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► was you know so really i'm speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► our position of massive privilege having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► had the original you know macintosh 128k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► macintosh and a series of maxim like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► just couldn't form that because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► one thing that was true back in the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► know the the slam against the max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► they're more expensive my god with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► more expensive everything to help them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► somewhere the keyboard was two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► dollars for crying out loud at nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► fantastic was an awesome keyboard though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► ask where I think he's still using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► oh that's so real so this week that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► one of the reasons but and that was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► one of the reasons that you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► convince people accepted that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► come over and I would blow them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► with my amazing mcintosh but they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► go back home and retrench on the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► because there's no way they could get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► mac like there was it was never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► happen right i mean they would have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► to turn around and try to convince their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► parents together mac and they would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► be successful because their parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► everything that i showed them so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► was it was an uphill battle and but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► believe both of you would have also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► impressed by the things I mean even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► i got my color 1 24 bit color it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► 24-bit color on picking on me again all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► my pc using friends have never even seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► a screen with 16.8 million college had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► no idea like they were you know vga 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► they were just amazing that you would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► 640 by 480 it's like you don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► what you're talking about guys let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► on-screen high risk transfer on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► with 24 bit color attached to my mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► ac30 arranged with the black-and-whites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► got i would drag a window half on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► black and white screen half on the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► screen and move it around just their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► little brains would explode and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► and that computer setup was like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► thousand dollars right so how those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► the days man but I mean there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► explicable reasons but i feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► two would have appreciated what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► seeing because you appreciate I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► appreciate nice things like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► look nice you appreciate the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► aesthetic like all the sort of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► that make a Ferrari different than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► muscle car i believe you both could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► appreciate that the same reason case you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► made your disk icon look different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► that is a Mac user thing to do 9pcs had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► drive letters I see and I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► just me wanting to be cooler than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► peers I appreciate everything you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► said that the mac was cooler though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► was it i mean yeah i know i was well put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► to you because you appreciated these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► things whereas to mark when I am i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► I think we would have been like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► that is really cool that you have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► these colors and yeah that does look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► remind me again why I can't play doom or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► whatever you know the game of the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► was right i don't think i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► carried a game games was the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► you could pull out of the pc but like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► you know it seemed like it was old hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► like doing was everywhere it doing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► not a differentiator everybody had doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► like you could you could play due mon on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► any old computer wasn't technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► impressive after the first you know then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► same thing with like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► playstation and once the 3d game console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► started coming out a lot of the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► shifted that look like pc gaming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► know the result that was always gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► something that the pc was going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► better and you know the mac never came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► close in gaming so that was just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5997">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► complete write-off but that's why I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► it was amazing that I can impress my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► what in the world could you impress them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► with like they had every game in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► world right then they have everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► the world what what kind of mac possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► do with games and our children games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► that didn't even exist on the pc so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► that's like opening their eyes up to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► you know whole world of quirky games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► be high-res games like there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► genres of games that's why syndicate was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► so amazing to go with 640 by 480 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► have to see the little people on your pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► it was like one of the only pc games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► like when i was playing sitting with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► friends that even like see the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► you like this game is the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► people care anything about the mac games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► because the mac has no games the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► the games are terrible but the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► it has are all beautiful and high-res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► and have nice colors & are interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► or whatever anyway now I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► think the mac was cooler in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► with Steve Jobs cool than Bill Gates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► embodiment of why app on the max cooler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► first of all I think there might be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► the age gap here showing that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► think John you're talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► difference between macs and pcs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► gaming and stuff i think at an earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► time span that was mostly relevant to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► in kc words like for us like we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► comparing max in like you know 1994 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► through 99 like that like that error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► like comparing those macs two depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► on one the 46 and and us vga graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► cards and us that you're comparing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► Apple going down the toilet drain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► Apple going-out-of-business like the pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► Steve Jobs 1997 like the low point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► Apple so if you're if you're any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► middle to late nineties yet that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► that's why I'm saying that it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► shame that you had missed out on apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► for all those years when you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► been using when you just wasn't even on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► your radar right because Apple was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► as bad then especially in comparison so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► I mean computer and i got my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► computer 94like so it was but I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► computer APPL was already on the decline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► and at that point like you know you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► you say like me in kc you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► appreciate good things I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► about Casey but would not when i was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► middle school and high school I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► appreciate nice things I just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► play games like that's yeah that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► every middle school or high school wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► to do with their computers play games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► it's look I you know I can yeah i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► type of paper on it cool let me finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► that we can go back to playing doom like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► that it was an end by the way every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► other game because of the high like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► you could play games on max but not most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► of them and usually not when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► new 1pcs i think over your play doom on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► the mac and the nineties actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► terrible terrible next version of doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► yeah but see and like gaming on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► was always a second-class citizen very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► gaming on the on the pc like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► nineties so and honestly still today but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► less less so to hey you guys know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► good you have it today I think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► worse today is like a backhand even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► the nineties if I had showed you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► black-and-white version of dark castle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► you would have been impressed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► there was nothing like that on the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► because there was over the mac only game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► and it just looked and played so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6175">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► differently than anything you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► seen on NBC you would have still said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► that dream was better because doing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► better but it was interesting and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► impressive and novel in in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► made the mat and differentiated the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► because there is no way the mac was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► going to me by saying whatever popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► game you liking your pc we have that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► the Mac because of what was the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► even if it exactly duplicated was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► well but i already had that the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► that could could be meaningful in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► way was to have something different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► that's how you would impress a jaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► diehard PC you can impress them by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► showing them doom and quake they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► have those games like even if they ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► perfectly so what they already had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► and that's what Mac gaming had again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► they're not gonna say okay well now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► need to get a mac but plenty of pc using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► friends like I will never give up my pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► for a mac but can we go over to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► house and play that weird that game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► we're playing hey what happened to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► well that was going to like be abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► computers were educated they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► expensive the so not only did like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► people don't even have one so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► to have one at all was a luxury and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► you wouldn't have been exposed to many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► of them during that time like like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► know the total number of computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► I played on during my entire childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► was probably like including at friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► houses was probably less than 10 so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► can get you weren't exposed to many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► computers you if you have any were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► lucky and the upgrade cycle was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► long especially when you're a kid like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► three years or five years feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► forever when you're a kid that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► like a 30 or childhood least the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► you remember so whatever you got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► the sense of like you know what is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► called fanboyism like the sense of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► trying to defend your purchase trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► never let the thought into your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► that something else is out there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► pc people had no chance of appreciating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► anything the mac had that was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► because they were pc people already and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► they couldn't just like buy a mac next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► month like know you were stuck with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► pc you got for all of middle school you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6296">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► know you're over it so like whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► had like you had to be happy with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► and they could probably couldn't buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► mac next year in prison they were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► expensive when it came time to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► your pc there's nowhere you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► replace it with a computer that cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► literally twice as much right times as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► much everything but I've again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► things you appreciate the type of person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► who would see just the hardware on a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► like what the case looks like what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► it's designed and how it doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► like you know the IBM PC xtk soar like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► aesthetically a difference in both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► hardware and the software that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► appreciate it as sort of like a nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► things kinda like if you got into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► friends Mercedes like we never had fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► cars but I had friends who had Perseids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► are their parents will come to pick me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► up and I would sit in them over like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► like this is a different this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► different kind of car everything in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► car is nicer the door handles the seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► the dashboard the headliner the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► everything about it's just nicer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► Weiner and like the mac did that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► the little pixels on the screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► everything was like classy and tasteful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► and nicely drawn maybe again if you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► like that particular style that the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► deals you I feel like both you do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► that particular style because apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► style today when both hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► software is not that different from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► and so again it doesn't mean that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► would run out and buy one but that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► would see it and go this is a nice this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► is a nice thing here this ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► expensive computer I can kind of see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► where the six thousand dollars went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► someone paid some designer to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► case to look nice so it looks good from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► all sorts of angles and everything kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► of matches and its really nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► everything I see the screen is nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► yeah some people some people can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► ship is all they would see is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► lack of a command line or let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► if there are eunuchs never did like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► lack of you know emacs or them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► whatever like it depends on what you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► about it because the fact that you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► are Mac users today I feel confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► that you would have that attraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► could have been fostered in younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► versions of yourself and so you did so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► your first Apple experiences weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► like when Apple what is the lowest point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► it would ever be in the history of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► company and had the worst products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► would ever have a ministry of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► company probably not a good entry point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► for you to get into apple i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► agree with Marco that I i think in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► era I don't know that I the eye for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► but who knows you know you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► never really tell you one thing though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► that I that I feel like you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► missed out on at least my perception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► how ordering and a mac worked back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► the day is I remember fretting with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► father for days sometimes weeks trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► to figure out the exact right bill to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► make of our gateway 2000 computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► then eventually our dell computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► in many ways that's not a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► that we had that much choice that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► were that many options that we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► oftentimes you have to call somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► because the internet was either not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► eventually place the order over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► phone and you have to quadruple check it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► to make sure they got it right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► have to get catalogs and blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► but so much of that was so intense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► in for me with such a bonding moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► with my dad that we had to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► that both of us could agree on and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► had so many choices a raid in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► us and so many different decisions we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► have to make and although i'm so glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► today that i don't have to do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► sorts of things that that my data that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► have maybe two or three options within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► the brand the kind of computer i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► i'm still up i'm thankful for that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► because it was really really awesome at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► that moment in such an exciting time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► be in 2pcs was when you had so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► options to customize so much but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► know maybe for you John you just found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► that deplorable well then when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► done you got a pc at the end so is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► of back and I remember because I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► go to the you guys probably do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► things to him maybe a little before your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► time you go to like computer fares are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► like flea market type things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► people would sell all the components to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► build your pc that's how I built the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► first pci built right and being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► that's that was I guess it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► like maybe before compusa and the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► stories came like this is where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► would go to pull your pc or just people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► people will have cases and drives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► motherboards and just all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► components and it was just making around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► around 36 46 hours i remember these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► being big before like by the time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► Pentiums around I feel like the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► stores to start to come on and you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► something and get your pieces but these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► are more sort of low-rent people setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► up tables buying parts from the Far East [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► and just selling them to you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► a pentium two and one of those you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► get you could go there you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► were looking for you could go there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► build yourself a pc at all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► parts and again that was the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► big rally crisis like I can build this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► amazing computer they can run quick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► this that and the other thing and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► how cheaply I could do it and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► what you would end up with this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► terrible mongrel looks like it was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► assembled from pieces that you bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► computer fair which is exactly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► how come on it wasn't it was just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► same and light 737 that everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► had their with lots of different popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► case i remember i was still going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► computers went full high towers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► thing did you ever get a full height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► that yeah actually the first one built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► was indeed a full-height shower because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► I mean you can live in there like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► make a little house is like a hawk said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► remember how your computer's I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► the only time i had excitement about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► phenomena together with my friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► watch them assemble their crap pcs with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► the part about the same part that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► excited about was I was excited to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► them build their species i will say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► want to go over their house and play pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► also I had later a little bit later i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► guess this was in the superstar when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► dawning of the linux age minutes before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► that and linux that was exciting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► all right everyone knows you can build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► pc but you can build a unix computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► from the same pieces that was a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► concept because before that the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► you got against computer was like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6658">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► university and like you know son would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► sell to you for even more than a mac or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► whatever now it's like these same parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► of the same flea market I can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► computer and run linux on and so now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► not building a crappy pc i'm running a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► linux server that's going to connect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► the internet and it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► any other thoughts market let's start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► with you on the apples 40th congrats i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► guess i don't know it's hard you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► it's there such a big company now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► they've come so far it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► like saying you know the history of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► they're so big that it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► hard to sum it up and and to see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► i I just I hope that they continue to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► Apple to take TQ to be a Polly to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► lose their personality and I hope is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► very strong future for the Mac because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► almost every thing we've talked about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► far tonight in in this celebration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► their history was not just the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► of Apple but the history of specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► the mac and now Apple to a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► things and I really hope the Mac doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► get lost or neglected because it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► great and while there is obviously tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► of room for people to be you doing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► computing on iOS and other things I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► still think that these devices are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► killing the mac and not replacing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► mac it's just sit there just a new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► it's another thing that you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► in addition to or instead of if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► to but the mac itself I think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► core of all this stuff it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► home base it is the hub as they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► sell as they sell it by and I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► hope the mac has a bright future and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► think it will and I i look forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► what that includes yeah i agree it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► funny you're you're right in saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► we haven't really talked about iOS much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► and I think that's because I associate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► so much of like older Apple with the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► because naturally these things weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► existing but you know i have five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► stories about the ipad I've stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► about the iphone but man I've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► like using this as an opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► think about the mac and John final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► yeah we didn't really get to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► pillars every night they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► obvious that i get me the too close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► home but I maybe I put in the notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► maybe i'll talk about the imac a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► bit next week but obviously after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► you know you mentioned the ipod and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► course you got the iphone we're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► obituary of apple if it was to die today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► the young age of 40 iphones line one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► right i mean it is such a sum of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► larger much more successful revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► of the same kind as the mac in that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► Apple said is here's the way the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► are going to work and it this time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► world was much faster to go oh you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► totally right that's it that's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► that's what we're going to do you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► all the pictures of like phones before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► and after the iphone again apples not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► first with a touchscreen phone not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► first with mostly screen touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► phone but such a huge revolution so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► feel like it's the mac maybe the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► and then the iphone hot for 40 years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► putting most companies don't even get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► one hit on the caliber not hit not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► just like popular product and one sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► of revolution where it is a dividing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► line between what did computers look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► like before they had gooeys and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► they look after and what was responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► what did phones look like before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► iphone and what they look like after and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► ipod about the digital music players act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:39 ◼ ► like before and after maybe sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6879">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► popularized digital music player but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► again most companies don't even have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► single one of those the biggest company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► and have one Apple has to which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► phenomenal to maybe 2.5 and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► I think defines Apple its first 40 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► that it proves that it's the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6895">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► then you get in but the Apple too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6897">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► there you nobody did the line needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► put in their press the button on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► personal computer revolution blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► and yet the Apple to was important but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► you could say that if the if the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► to didn't happen then maybe the IBM PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► might everywhere they really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► different but the mac really made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► something happen that the I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► if the mac didn't exist we would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► wait much longer for the first big-girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► computer and the same thing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► smartphone with the iphone didn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► we probably would eventually got into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► similar place but it would have taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► way longer just look what I android look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► like in the days before the iphone will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► look like after so Apple is defined as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► miraculous thing multiple times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► therefore take this magical place in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► minds in our memories that it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► just a bunch of people who are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► right place at the right time and got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► lucky once that they somehow have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► figured out a way system for you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► system for greatness and then same is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► similar to picture or whatever with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► system of steve jobs i guess we'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► out in 30 years ago you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► really assistant for greatness was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6958">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► really just as one amazing guy but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► feel like there's been enough things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► that have happened and enough promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► has been shown that i did it's not out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► of the question for Apple to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► another iphone like product revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► somewhere in our lifetimes I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► self-driving cars i'm pretty confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► notice that is a feasible a feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► thing that could happen but if not if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► Apple goes out of business today I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► still say you would stand it up as one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► of the great companies ever to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► face of the earth in all terms you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► possibly measure financial success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► customer satisfaction which Tim loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► mr. percent and just it an impact on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► world like if you were to you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► were do one of those montages of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► you know the years that Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► existed a lot of things that Apple did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► would appear in that montage not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► it would be glorifying apple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► they changed the way all of us live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► and.and work and had to help the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► that sucks about three sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► hover blue apron and betterment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► mean to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► John research Marco and Casey would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► you can find the show know today d p dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment our DC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7064">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► now what is this ongoing I ongoing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► iCloud Drive pages TextEdit failures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► that some quick that we can just use his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► yeah that's a quickie guess it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► complaining but like I talked to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► before that you really want to follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► that with with complaining what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► think this fair point it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► just a minor like update on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► we were talking about before like doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► stuff and pages and it wouldn't let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► save it's not me it's my daughter she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► yeah you had some kind of like some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► of like sink conflict right yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► just I just wants to write plaintext [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► more or less or style text and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► know why I keep encouraging her to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► this sort of the pages in the dark I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► said oh just launched pages and do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► and then it wasn't even like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► trying to have read about our iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► anymore they gave up on that but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► just a mac just a single mag open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► document and she typed stop she likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:57 ◼ ► the right thing so just got a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7137">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► writing paragraph you typed a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7138">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► stuff then it was time for dinner to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► off the computer or something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► couldn't save your command s and gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► some error and I'm like really it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► new untitled document created on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► single computer with no thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► whatsoever and I can't save and at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:18 ◼ ► point my god just go and do your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7158">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► daddy will take care of this I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► take care of it and there I couldn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► couldn't save this document is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► untitled document I i could not say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► i had to copy and paste text out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► put into text edit and save it somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► else and I don't know what the moral of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► the story is but I just it's slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► teaching me an important lesson like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► Marco and plugging his pc and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► connecting up the mac that just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► never use anything that touches iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► or pages that were just as I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► what teaching you teaching me to be sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► and and it's it's a it's making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► unsuccessful it showing my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► anything about computers new document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7195">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► complete utter failure she just has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:02 ◼ ► leave the room and when she comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7202">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► have to say don't use that program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► anymore just what I don't dumb ass daddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► why it's just it's too sad for words to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► use and i had to use microsoft word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► that's what I did because you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► you make a new document according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7216">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► type words in it you save it save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► document pretty much every time i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► pretty sure saves document local disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► I one of the problems with like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► as as we've gotten so much more advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► in the technology it's also gotten so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► much more complicated that the basics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► often don't work as reliable as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► used to because it's not as basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► you think it's basic you think I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► saving a document to local disk but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► that like it basically i mean if i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► to put on my computer and for a second I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► thought pretty sure what happened is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► lot of documents even text edit when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► make a new document since it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► autosave enabled it will make the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7257">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► document in your iCloud Drive like by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7258">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► default or maybe if that's the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► unbeknownst to you you think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► typing in a document that has not yet be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► saved but it has been saved it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:07 ◼ ► save in iCloud Drive you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7267">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► everything except text that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► doing that since like the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► cloud-enabled version you just open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► and taking your document you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► but it's just it's put an iCloud Drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► and something is wrong with her specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► iCloud drive connected to her Apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► so again don't even think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:24 ◼ ► systemic problem or a bug i think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7284">TS</a>]
02:01:26 ◼ ► something server-side and her iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7286">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► Drive is hosed and like it poisons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► anything you put there and at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► like that that new document that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► created was already essentially sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► autosave created in her iCloud Drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► trying to save it and give it a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► gave some weird error like can't open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:44 ◼ ► untitled like it was trying to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7304">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► might not make it open the document and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► then received under new name but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► already iCloud like driving factors if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:53 ◼ ► had open pages and made new document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7313">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► such that it auto save their desktop i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► think everything would have been fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7318">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► but it was too late i had a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► whatever it's called and had the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► and there was no action i could take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► other than copying pasting content of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► that window to get that thing saving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► a file on disk like literally nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:11 ◼ ► this is a single computer no thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7331">TS</a>]
02:02:12 ◼ ► involved and so I can kind of understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7332">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► how it didn't work but like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► Margaret I know the basics of New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► I cloud a cloud ConnectedDrive synced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► a background demon running on the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► with the you know document ubiquity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► all these that's not basic at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► far it looks basic but it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:28 ◼ ► it's just it's fiendishly complicated if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7348">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► it works fine but if it doesn't regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► people can't be expected to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► that all they know is i had saved a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► in error dialog box and put me back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► a window that would that was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► unsaved and window call untitled you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:44 ◼ ► know you should have done no use the IRA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTAPd4k/7364">TS</a>]