0:00:00[Music]
0:00:06From Relay FM, this is Connected episode number 60.
0:00:11My name is Myke Hurley and I'm joined as always by Mr. Steven Hackett.
0:00:14Hey Myke, how are you?
0:00:16I'm very well, sir. How are you?
0:00:18I'm doing really well.
0:00:19And of course, the wonderful Mr Federico Vittucci.
0:00:21Buona sera, boys.
0:00:23Ah, si, si.
0:00:24That's what I have for you.
0:00:27That's how you can say, hi, Myke, how are you?
0:00:29I know very little Italian. What was it? Al dente mucha? What were we doing last week?
0:00:35Al dente mucha, you're mixing up Spanish and Italian again.
0:00:37So similar though. Was it al dente?
0:00:40Al dente, that's okay.
0:00:43No, no.
0:00:44Molto al dente means very much. Molto means very.
0:00:48Yeah, al dente very much.
0:00:49Yeah, that was last week Myke.
0:00:52Talking about Italian and Spanish, Chris Wilson, and Chris is a man of many languages,
0:00:59he pokes at me every now and then to ask me how I'm getting along with learning Romanian,
0:01:05which is not going very well at all, Chris, I'll tell you right now.
0:01:09But he loved your Spanish, Federico.
0:01:11Oh yeah?
0:01:12Yep.
0:01:13And he said that recently he gave an Italian directions in Spanish, I assume accidentally,
0:01:19and wondered if you would be up for trying to improvise another language like Polish.
0:01:25Let's do this.
0:01:26I'm going to Google Translate.
0:01:28What should I say?
0:01:29Say, "Thank you, Chris."
0:01:31Let's see.
0:01:32We'll go with that.
0:01:35Thank you.
0:01:36Oh man, this is difficult.
0:01:42There's a sign on the letters.
0:01:44I'm not sure what they mean.
0:01:45Just go for it, man.
0:01:46Just say it how it looks.
0:01:48Zie kueh, Chrisar?
0:01:50Perfect.
0:01:51You probably didn't need to translate Chris into another language.
0:01:54Oh, no, no.
0:01:55I wrote Chris.
0:01:56The Chryssas of the world are known as Chryssas in Poland.
0:02:01- It's like a whole different thing.
0:02:03- It's like a whole different name.
0:02:05Your name is Chris, well you become Chryssa in Poland.
0:02:09That's how they roll.
0:02:10- You know how sometimes in the show,
0:02:12one of us will veto something the other two are doing?
0:02:15I veto any more that Rico learns
0:02:18foreign languages on the air.
0:02:19(laughing)
0:02:21- Are you sure?
0:02:22This could be a whole new section.
0:02:23I mean there's--
0:02:24- That's what I'm worried about.
0:02:25How many countries are there in the world?
0:02:28We should have CGP here right now to tell us how many languages we can try to improvise
0:02:33on the show.
0:02:35If you would like Federico to read a sentence in your language, please tweet @Steven, that's
0:02:40@ismh on Twitter, and he will field all of these suggestions for a later episode.
0:02:46Yeah, but people should also provide the sentence, you know.
0:02:49It's not like every time I'm supposed to say thank you.
0:02:52The sentence and the language.
0:02:54And at some point in the future we'll do a special episode entirely devoted to Federico
0:02:59reading other languages.
0:03:01This is how we connect the world together.
0:03:02That's what this show's all about.
0:03:04We connect the world together through Federico's attempts at speaking.
0:03:08Stephen, please take follow-up back from me.
0:03:11Forever after that.
0:03:13Thank you in advance for what you've done to my Twitter mentions.
0:03:17So this is getting you back for something you did to me many, many years ago.
0:03:22So me and Steven used to have a podcast together called the Five Twelve Podcast.
0:03:27And I think I wasn't on an episode, like I was on holiday and somebody filled in for
0:03:31me.
0:03:32I think that was how it went.
0:03:34And what did you say something about, you came up with this crazy recipe for how I like
0:03:38to eat hot dogs and then told people that they should send me their own recipes for
0:03:43hot dogs.
0:03:45And for a week all I got was just people telling me how they eat hot dogs.
0:03:48Yeah, it was pretty great.
0:03:51So this is in return.
0:03:54That's a long game you've been playing.
0:03:55Yeah, I've been waiting for the day.
0:03:57Four years.
0:03:58You know what, Myke?
0:04:00Helvette.
0:04:01I don't know what's happening anymore.
0:04:05Do you remember the PewDiePie video?
0:04:07Cursing in Finnish.
0:04:08Oh yeah, what was that?
0:04:09Oh no, what's that in Swedish?
0:04:12I don't remember.
0:04:14What was Helvette?
0:04:15I don't know.
0:04:16I think it was just hell.
0:04:18We'll put a link in the show notes to this because so few people are going to know what
0:04:21we're talking about.
0:04:22Please, Steven, just do something about this.
0:04:24You're fired from follow-up.
0:04:27We have some more on 3D Touch, and this is something that I meant to talk about last
0:04:32week, but we didn't.
0:04:34Devin on Twitter asks about the Settings app and why it doesn't have quick actions to things
0:04:41like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or Hotspot.
0:04:43Now, the obvious answer is that Control Center exists, right?
0:04:46So if you slide Control Center up, you can do things like turn Wi-Fi off, turn Bluetooth
0:04:51on and off, etc. etc.
0:04:56And I think that while it would be nice for settings to have some quick actions or you
0:05:00could maybe turn some common things on or off, I see that they don't want to compete
0:05:05with Control Center.
0:05:07But the other thought I had was, "How do you guys feel about Control Center now?"
0:05:14To me Control Center feels sort of old-fashioned, sort of out of date now in this world of 3D
0:05:20Touch.
0:05:21It works great on the iPhone 6, I'll tell you that.
0:05:25It definitely works great, but I think that 3D Touch should have brought about some change
0:05:32to Control Center.
0:05:36Maybe you could long press on something and it could give you an option.
0:05:42I think as well looking back at it, I don't know if calculator and
0:05:46timer need to live there. I use it quite a bit, right? I use it a lot.
0:05:51It's just part of iOS that is normal to me. I use it to turn on Wi-Fi and
0:05:55airplane mode. I use it to turn on the flashlight. I use it to resume audio and
0:06:02stuff like that. But I think it could do a bit of a rethink. Not
0:06:08dramatically, but there could be some different things done there and I think
0:06:12that it should definitely be 3D touch enabled in some way to do something cool.
0:06:16Yeah, I often wish that Apple allowed us to customize Control Center to kind of choose
0:06:22the toggles that you want to put in there.
0:06:25There's a friend of mine here, he always asks me, "You should write on the website that
0:06:31I want to be able to turn off my cellular data from Control Center."
0:06:35I don't know why he thinks that I have this kind of power, but it's been on my wishlist
0:06:40for like two years.
0:06:42I definitely hope that iOS 10 will get a customizable control center, maybe with a new design, I don't know.
0:06:48So even just now, I imagine you could 3D touch Wi-Fi and choose network,
0:06:54you could 3D touch the airplane mode and turn off cellular like your friend would like.
0:06:58There are things you could do there. Or why can't you 3D touch the camera icon
0:07:03to get what happens when you 3D touch the home screen camera icon?
0:07:08It just feels like something that was kind of maybe like forgotten about when they were putting
0:07:13this in there. It's just like, "Oh yeah, that thing's there." So I don't know. I agree, I think your
0:07:19suggestions are really good. And you know, I'm not suggesting it go away, but you know, I think it's
0:07:23due for an overhaul. No, I don't want it to go away either. I like it and use it, but I agree. I think
0:07:30there could be a little bit more. Yeah, I mean even if it was just like Apple presented you with a list
0:07:35of things like you couldn't put whatever app you wanted in there but that would
0:07:39be really nice to do I think so.
0:07:42We also have a tweet about 3D Touch from Tambor Koalasingh that he was
0:07:50trolled into 3D touching with his nose so...
0:07:53Can Koalas even use their giant nose to 3D Touch?
0:07:59It's kinda like you gotta have the 6S+ you gotta have a big phone to do it but
0:08:03But so that's happening.
0:08:05So Myke is still making people do things with their noses that are as weird and strange.
0:08:11Even animals, Myke.
0:08:13It's the kind of pool that I have.
0:08:15You should be proud of yourself, Myke.
0:08:18I'm very proud.
0:08:19Lastly, in follow-up, we were speaking about the Apple TV Universal Search.
0:08:25And at least my understanding from the event was that it was a program that Apple had to
0:08:32opt you into, at least that's what we had theorized. The article came out over
0:08:35the weekend. There was an interview with Tim Cook on BuzzFeed and it basically
0:08:42says that that is going to be a API. So if you have a app with content in it you
0:08:52can basically opt in to be part of that universal search like Spotlight Search
0:08:56now on iOS 9, which I think is great. I think it's good that other
0:09:00people can opt into this because just having the select few of what was it it
0:09:06was iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, Showtime and HBO like that's fine but there's a lot more
0:09:10content out there and I think it's good to have more people show up in those
0:09:14results so yeah that'll be a good thing that will definitely be a good thing
0:09:18it's a needed thing if you know I want to be able to see YouTube videos when
0:09:23I'm doing these searches yep you know I want to be able to see videos on Amazon
0:09:29Prime if that ever comes about, who knows what's gonna happen there. You know, all
0:09:33that kind of stuff that I want to see. I don't want this to be so
0:09:37locked down that it's like Apple's approved parties. Right, and there's, you
0:09:43know, there's always this tension on Apple's platforms of you have things
0:09:49that are blessed by Apple and you have things that are not blessed by Apple. So
0:09:53on the iPhone you've got, for instance, apps you can't delete or things like
0:09:56control center that it only does what Apple says it can do and on the Apple TV it's gone
0:10:02even further, right? The current Apple TV is not even open, right? You've got to go
0:10:08and make a deal with Apple and you get to build a really shady app and...
0:10:11Like CarPlay, right? Same kind of deal.
0:10:13Right, exactly. Another great example. And that's, like I understand why things are that
0:10:18way, right? Apple wants to control the experience, they want to make sure that everything is
0:10:22as high quality as possible, blah, blah, blah.
0:10:24But this open API for search, I think,
0:10:29is a step in the right direction
0:10:30for something like the Apple TV.
0:10:32Whereas you know what, like, the more content
0:10:34on the Apple TV, like, the more valuable it becomes to me.
0:10:38And the easier it is to get around it and to use it,
0:10:40the more likely I will be to keep using the device
0:10:45and upgrade again, et cetera, et cetera.
0:10:47So it's a good move and one that I'm happy about.
0:10:49I'm still planning on buying an Apple TV.
0:10:51The Roku 4 was announced or released
0:10:52or something this morning.
0:10:54It looks really interesting, but I'm still gonna
0:10:56hold the course and upgrade to my Apple TV later this month.
0:11:00- Yeah, the only way this works as a thing
0:11:02is that you've got to be able to put all of your stuff in it
0:11:05like and watch all of your stuff on it.
0:11:07Like if you, you kind of want it to be the only box, right?
0:11:11- Exactly.
0:11:13And this lets it do that in a more seamless way.
0:11:15So I think it's good, it's a good move.
0:11:17- Cool.
0:11:20There were some new watch ads put out today, short ads, I think they're about 20 seconds
0:11:26each.
0:11:27I think there's six of them in total, is that right?
0:11:31What do you guys think of them?
0:11:33They're very cool, they're kind of hippie, they're kind of trying to play for a new generation
0:11:38of customers maybe.
0:11:40I think this is Apple's new style, right?
0:11:43Like the iPhone ad is very cool too, right?
0:11:47like fun and hey look at us guys oh we're crazy come on haha jokes at us like
0:11:51then it's that kind of style which I really like and I love these ads for
0:11:56that reason I like that kind of light-hearted we poke fun at ourselves
0:12:01and do silly things and there's funny music and pastel colors and people do it
0:12:04people people that look interesting like I like all of that stuff yeah I can see
0:12:10why though people wouldn't like these. Yeah maybe I guess the old commercials
0:12:16were made for people like my mother and maybe these new ones are for like
0:12:22teenagers and younger people who want to know why the watch is cool and why
0:12:27they need one. The older ones showing like family, babies, you know staying in
0:12:31touch, using apps as a tourist. Those are maybe for another generation of
0:12:37customers these ones are for like the 17 year old or the 20 year old guy who
0:12:43wants to buy a watch and doesn't know why. I guess it makes sense.
0:12:46When I look at these ads as well it makes me think of the iPod ads just because
0:12:51they're very stylized in an interesting way and it's focused completely on the
0:12:55individual which was how the iPod ads were right they were focused on the
0:12:58person and I know that these are more so like it's not like a silhouette but I
0:13:03look at them and think that they they really do feel that way they have a
0:13:07flavor of the old iPod ad. Yeah probably although there isn't the iconic white
0:13:13earbuds you know. No and I think that that is a choice isn't it like that they
0:13:21want because the watch can't be iconic because it's so customizable. Yeah there
0:13:26is no canonical watch design. Yeah. I think they do a
0:13:32good job too as the chat room points out with the diversity in the ads there's a
0:13:35bunch of different people from different parts of the world, men and women. I think it's
0:13:40nice. I agree with you guys, they're fun. They're just little stories, which I think
0:13:46is nice too. They're real short, but you get something about the Apple Watch out of each
0:13:52one, something different out of each one. So I think they're really effective. Thumbs
0:13:57up on the new ads from me.
0:13:59But as I say again, I can see why people will hate them.
0:14:03Sure.
0:14:04know you can just see it right? Apple advertising is divisive and when they
0:14:09take a specific like tone like this that becomes even more so but I think the
0:14:15people that won't like it are the people that Apple aren't trying to attract anyway.
0:14:18I think that's fair. Not that it's wrong right but I just feel like they're going
0:14:25for a very specific age group and you know I think outside of that age group
0:14:30it maybe doesn't land as well. But I love them.
0:14:36This is definitely the kind of mic commercial that you like. All these crazy colors. I could
0:14:42picture you driving on a Vespa in a landscape of pastel colors.
0:14:47It's a dream of mine Federico. But you don't drive.
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0:16:56So Federico, today was, I believe, you reserved an iPhone.
0:17:03- I woke up and my girlfriend brought me
0:17:07a piece of chocolate and an espresso.
0:17:09- She's so good, just look at that.
0:17:11- And I didn't even drink the espresso.
0:17:15I tapped the home button on my phone.
0:17:19I saw an email from a reader telling me
0:17:21that the iPhone reservations opened a few hours
0:17:25before in Italy.
0:17:27I was in a state of, you know,
0:17:30wasn't basically half asleep.
0:17:32And I just went to the Apple website.
0:17:34I typed in my details.
0:17:36I reserved an iPhone and then I proceeded with my breakfast.
0:17:40It was really fast, you know.
0:17:42I couldn't pre-order a 6 Plus in my local Apple Store.
0:17:47It was only the iPhone 6.
0:17:49I needed to pick a time, so of course I picked noon
0:17:52because it's brutal to wake up at 8 a.m. in the morning,
0:17:56who does that?
0:17:57So I'm going there Friday at noon.
0:18:00I got my reservation, iPhone 6S, Space Gray, 64 gig.
0:18:05I'm gonna use it for a few weeks,
0:18:07then I will probably give this to Sylvia
0:18:10because she wants one and then I will buy my own 6S Plus as soon as it's available at
0:18:15the Apple Store.
0:18:16You just want to get your hands on the 3D Touch as soon as possible, right?
0:18:19And it's Friday, isn't it, that they come out?
0:18:22It's Friday so I got the whole weekend to set it up, you know, install my apps.
0:18:27It really does take a whole weekend though.
0:18:29Yeah, basically, because I don't do the restore from backup.
0:18:33It's probably going to take me less, you know, because I won't have any issues with the backup
0:18:39like you guys. Well you're gonna lose all your health data and stuff, you know that
0:18:43right? I'm gonna use that but I'm used to it because I back it up in different
0:18:47places you know I think it will life some so at least I get a subset of
0:18:51information saved somewhere else but I gave up on the idea of a lifetime of
0:18:56health data because Apple doesn't let me do that and I really want to start fresh.
0:19:00Why? Why I start fresh every year? Because I think the OS
0:19:06experience is just better. It's cleaner, I get to decide again which apps I want to keep
0:19:12and which apps I can avoid installing and I found that I don't run into issues with
0:19:18like corrupt backups and that kind of stuff. All my information and data is in iCloud and
0:19:23other like Dropbox so I don't really need the backup. I just need to accept that I will
0:19:30lose my messages which I don't care about because it's just messages. All my photos
0:19:36are in iCloud, I'm just gonna lose my health data but for me, having a daily experience
0:19:43that is faster, cleaner, no weird issues is more important than having two years of health
0:19:51data.
0:19:53I'm just not gonna enjoy my iPhone if I experience slowdowns, random crashes, reboots, I just
0:20:01want to diminish my chances of having issues and that's why I do the cleaning
0:20:08install every year. Actually I do it every year for each new device and each new
0:20:12public version of iOS so I do it twice a year basically. Call me crazy but that's what I like.
0:20:19I mean I understand it's like a personal preference thing like so you know my
0:20:23personal preference is not to do that I just don't like going through and
0:20:27checking everything and I actually like it. I get that. I told you know I can
0:20:33knowing you as I do I totally understand why you do this because it just allows
0:20:38you to spring clean and rethink and like optimize which I know is something that
0:20:43you really really love to do. So it makes sense. I tweeted this a few days ago I
0:20:48actually like tweaking settings in my devices in my apps I like to just waste
0:20:55like two hours just playing around with settings, looking around, discovering stuff
0:20:59and many times this makes for interesting articles or like stuff that I can
0:21:06mention in the newsletter or teachy tips that I discover. Like it's it is part of
0:21:11my job to mess around with these things so the clean install facilitates this
0:21:17kind of you know workflow I guess to just play around, see what's new, see all the
0:21:23settings, all the options. I don't mind the process at all.
0:21:28Good. Good.
0:21:31So I'm going there on Friday, Gamma Reservation. Last year was super easy. There was a separate
0:21:38line. Hopefully this year there won't be the screaming guy who doesn't understand how lines
0:21:44work. Fingers crossed there won't be any accident of sorts. So yeah, Friday finally. I mean,
0:21:51It's like, what, three weeks after the American launch?
0:21:54Two weeks?
0:21:55I don't know.
0:21:56I don't remember.
0:21:57Yeah, I think after hearing the two of you guys talk about it, I'm going to Reserve next
0:22:01year.
0:22:02Because, you know, this year, like, I'm waiting for the UPS guy to show up, you know, show
0:22:06up till like 8pm, and I'm afraid I'm gonna miss him, and I think I'm just gonna have
0:22:11Reserve and drive out to our store.
0:22:12It seems like everyone who does that has a much better experience than I have, so.
0:22:17I just like being in control.
0:22:21Like in general.
0:22:24Just in general.
0:22:25That's all I have to say.
0:22:26I was just thinking about that and thought I'd share it with you.
0:22:30Let's talk about carriers.
0:22:31The opposite of being in control.
0:22:34Well I just, I had an experience last couple weeks with a carrier here and I thought we
0:22:40could talk about carriers sort of in general a little bit.
0:22:42So I've been a Verizon customer since six years, six and a half years.
0:22:48I actually, it was actually before the Verizon iPhone came out because I carried an Android
0:22:56phone for about eight months, maybe a year, and then a Palm Pre Plus, rest in peace, webOS.
0:23:05And I've switched to Verizon for a bunch of reasons that aren't important now, but I've
0:23:08I've had sort of increasingly bad service with them
0:23:13and it sort of hit a peak a couple weeks ago
0:23:18when I needed to call 911 from home and couldn't.
0:23:23And the call dropped twice and then they called me back
0:23:26and it dropped two more times
0:23:27before I finally got ahold of them.
0:23:29And as you guys might imagine I was--
0:23:30- That is an unacceptable situation.
0:23:33- That's exactly what I told the Verizon phone rep.
0:23:36- Yeah, like that's, I don't think you can go
0:23:38further than that, like, you know,
0:23:40that is as far as it goes.
0:23:42- And the point of sharing the story
0:23:44is not to bad mouth Verizon,
0:23:46'cause they actually handled the subsequent story very well.
0:23:49- You should say what they did.
0:23:50I think it would be interesting,
0:23:51'cause me and you were talking,
0:23:52and you said that you were gonna call them on council,
0:23:55and it was a case of, there is no scenario in the world
0:23:59where they could charge you a no-determination fee,
0:24:01and me and you were talking about
0:24:03how you would burn them down to the ground.
0:24:05Yeah, thankfully I didn't come to that. So yeah, so I called and I was like, hey, look,
0:24:12I actually spoke to them the week before and their only fix was for me to buy a network
0:24:16extender and put in my house that they were not going to pay for, which like, well, not
0:24:21doing that. So yeah, they took it very seriously and they, you know, went through about a 24
0:24:28hour period with their techs, checked a couple of things in the neighborhood and then basically
0:24:32called me back and said, "You know, this is not something that we can resolve for you.
0:24:37We understand if we want to port your numbers, we will waive your early termination fee."
0:24:41So I had an ETF on each of our phone lines still, which was like hundreds of dollars,
0:24:45and they waived that. They really took care of me.
0:24:48Which is the right way to do it.
0:24:49Like, there's nothing they could do, like that that person could do about the fact that
0:24:53the call dropped. Like, other than this person coming to your house and installing a new
0:24:58new telephone pole, right, which is just,
0:25:00it's not gonna happen.
0:25:01So like this is, they dealt with it in the right way,
0:25:03I think, they just was like, it's up to you
0:25:05what you wanna do, if you wanna go,
0:25:06then that's totally fine, we'll help you out with that.
0:25:10- And I think that any cell phone network
0:25:13or any carrier would do that, I mean that's a pretty,
0:25:15it's a pretty serious issue.
0:25:19So I ended up taking both of our phones,
0:25:21both my 6S Plus and my wife's 5S, to T-Mobile.
0:25:24And T-Mobile's a carrier here in the States
0:25:27depending on where you live you have drastically different opinions of. Here
0:25:31in Memphis it's all I can speak to. It's really really good and it's a lot
0:25:36cheaper and I'm contract free because I brought my own phone so I can leave it
0:25:40anytime. I am still interested in the Apple upgrade plan next year. You know
0:25:47I'm gonna see how a year goes on T-Mobile and go from there but I wanted
0:25:50to point people to a link that I found. This is a page that I wasn't aware of.
0:25:56apple.com/iphone/LTE and as you may know if you look at the bottom
0:26:01the bottom of your phone on the back or if you go into settings, iPhones have a
0:26:06model number and they differ from year to year and they depending on what year
0:26:16a phone may work on all the US carriers or only a couple of them you know these
0:26:22LTE bands are changing all the time and they're adding new ones. Same thing
0:26:27overseas right? It's an ever-shifting landscape. So this page
0:26:31will be in the show notes. Yeah I've spent a lot of time looking at this page
0:26:34when I've considered buying funds in the US before. Mm-hmm. So yeah so it's if
0:26:41you're looking to change at some point I think it's a good thing to have
0:26:44bookmarked. But Myke you and I were talking about this and you were saying
0:26:48that you are contemplating a change as well and I was curious to compare
0:26:52You know, I'm doing this right in the middle of this transition here in the States of two
0:26:56year contracts to you pay the phone off and you're sort of, it's not really a different
0:27:03thing but it is sort of a different thing.
0:27:06And I'm kind of doing the nerd dream of contract free, I own my phones but you know, it's a
0:27:10transition here and we're in the middle of it and it's really messy right now.
0:27:13If you go in you can like make a wrong decision and spend more money than you have to, etc.
0:27:17etc.
0:27:18I was kind of curious how y'all's experience with carriers were and then Myke maybe talk a little bit about what you were thinking about doing
0:27:25Yeah, so I am currently at the end of the two-year agreement from when I got my iPhone 5s
0:27:32So that's over now
0:27:33So I'm out of contract which is why I'm getting missed calls from numbers that I don't know a couple of times a day
0:27:39As I assume is my carrier trying to contact me to get me to resign
0:27:45Because my bill at the moment is quite expensive. It's 47 pounds a month to my carrier, which is expensive for here even
0:27:53So what is that like 60 70 dollars or something and with that I get unlimited calls and messages and eight gigabytes of data
0:28:00That oh, see if eight or ten gigabytes of data. That's what I'm currently getting
0:28:03So I've been looking around because I've decided that I'm just gonna from now on most likely just get phones out of contract where possible
0:28:11So I'm looking for the best possible deal that I can find that also makes me unencumbered from a cell carrier
0:28:19Like I don't want to be in a contract anymore
0:28:22Just where I can avoid that type of thing. I would like to do that. So it gives me more flexibility
0:28:28So like if one year I can't afford to buy the phone outright
0:28:31Then I can jump straight into a contract and pick it up, right?
0:28:34Like that's because you know you as I've mentioned before you can get phone like iPhones for free or for next to free
0:28:40in the UK on contracts when even when they're new.
0:28:43So I was looking around and I'm probably gonna go with the Network 3 here in the UK.
0:28:51They don't have the best
0:28:54coverage in certain areas. So I've ordered the SIM and I'm gonna try it out before I cancel my current.
0:29:01But the reason that I've gone with 3 is it's I think I'm paying 25. I will be paying 25 pounds a month
0:29:07on a 30-day rolling contract, so I'm not fixed in with them,
0:29:11I'm fixed in with them a month at a time,
0:29:13which is exactly what I want.
0:29:15I get like 600 minutes, which I don't even care about,
0:29:18unlimited text and unlimited data
0:29:20with eight gigabytes of hotspot,
0:29:22and that plan, that unlimited data, will work abroad.
0:29:26So if I go to the US, I don't need a SIM anymore
0:29:31because my data will just work,
0:29:32and it's all part of my plan.
0:29:34So they do a thing called, I think it's called
0:29:35at home, something like that, or feel at home. So that's one of the reasons. They
0:29:39have a bunch of countries in this and the US is one of them. So it's kind of
0:29:43like a, as long as I can get LTE and it's at least half the speed of my current
0:29:49then I'll be happy with that and I'll probably go with it just because it will
0:29:53significantly improve my life as I'm traveling a lot more than I used to of
0:29:59having to try and buy SIMs and paying $80 a time to get data when I'm abroad.
0:30:03So that's probably what I'll go with. I've ordered the SIM card and I want to see if the coverage is good
0:30:08And if it is then I'm gonna switch
0:30:11Guys you may be surprised by the fact that I don't do contracts
0:30:16Not surprised. I always pay cash
0:30:21new devices I I mean I have a
0:30:25Have a pretty sweet deal with my carrier, which isn't the one that used to you know, catch on fire two years ago
0:30:32it's a new one. I have, they call it a package, basically I pay for DSL at home and included
0:30:43it's, there's a sim card which gives me 3GB on my phone and some hundreds of minutes and
0:30:52texts. I don't use that, I don't call people. So I only care about the 3GB on the phone.
0:30:59so I never you know I don't use 4G much on my phone so I rarely go over 2
0:31:09gigabytes each month which is good but then on my iPad I bought these offer from the
0:31:17same ISP basically what is is it Tim it's telecom Italy and team yeah it's
0:31:26It's basically the same one.
0:31:27I love Tim, man.
0:31:28I just love it says Tim on the phone.
0:31:30Yeah, it always says Tim.
0:31:33Basically I get 10 gigabytes of 4G each month on my iPad for basically 12 euros each month,
0:31:43but because I'm also a customer at home with the dual DSL and iPhone offer, those gigabytes
0:31:50on the iPad are doubled.
0:31:52So I get 20GB of 4G LTE on my iPad each month for 12 euros a month.
0:31:59So I never do contracts because I can always find these offers.
0:32:05I love the coverage of Teams and telecom in Rome and I like the feeling of walking into
0:32:11an Apple store and paying cash.
0:32:14You know?
0:32:15Yeah, yeah.
0:32:16But that deal man is crazy.
0:32:19It's a pretty good deal.
0:32:21That's why I don't like being constrained by contracts that you gotta keep track of
0:32:28the months, how many months are you forced to pay the contract and usually you get an
0:32:37offer that is not as good as what you can get by paying for the device upfront and then
0:32:43finding one of these offers.
0:32:45So yeah, I don't like contracts guys.
0:32:51does. But I also don't do them besides not liking them. This is all about that control
0:32:59thing I was talking about a moment ago. You should come live in Italy Myke. I'll look
0:33:04into that. It's nice to have options. For so long the iPhone was just on so few carriers.
0:33:15I mean, famously AT&T only here for a long time.
0:33:19But as they've, you know, I think LTE's been a technology that has allowed them to spread
0:33:24out and it lets the carriers compete on crazy deals like what you're doing Federico.
0:33:28So it's nice to be able to pick these things up and move them around as you see fit over
0:33:34time.
0:33:35You're not locked into something for a decade.
0:33:39I remember in the UK it started out on one carrier as well.
0:33:41I think the first two maybe were just on 02 at the time which was good because it was
0:33:46the carrier that I was already on but yeah it was also locked here I remember that and
0:33:50they always launched the phones at 602 in the evening because branding.
0:33:58Alright let's take a second break and we've still got a bunch of stuff I want to talk
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0:36:17Right so Jack Dorsey is back at Twitter. Jack is back. Jack is back in the biggest
0:36:23surprise of the year. Nobody expected this to happen but I mean I'm pretty
0:36:30positive on the whole thing but I think it's good to have him back. I like the
0:36:35Steve Jobs parallel story quite a lot just because it's romantic
0:36:38in its own little way. But I'm interested to see what you guys feel. Now Federico
0:36:43you, I think of all of us, have been the most likely to praise Twitter as a
0:36:49company and the decisions that they make and the product itself. So I'm
0:36:54interested in what you think about Jack Dorsey's return. I think it's a good move
0:36:59you know. Currently many people say he's a changed man from the last time, he's been able to mature
0:37:07to know how to grow a company, how to manage people, how to delegate, which is an essential
0:37:12you know trait for someone who needs to lead two companies, both Twitter and Square.
0:37:20The last three months, Twitter has seemed to be faster in terms of releasing updates,
0:37:28even when they're not great updates, like the iPad app, it's mostly still a joke,
0:37:35but at least they're moving quickly and now that it's returned as CEO,
0:37:41they're also moving with this new moments feature that they launched today,
0:37:46It's been in the works for the past few months.
0:37:49I think he knows, Jack knows Twitter.
0:37:51Obviously there's some kind of romanticism, as you say, not just about Steve Jobs, but
0:37:55as a co-founder, you know, as a founder returning to a company many years later, I feel like
0:38:03it's the right move at the right time.
0:38:06He's, most importantly, he's a man, he's someone who knows Twitter, who uses Twitter.
0:38:12He's always every day tweeting about all kinds of stuff, not just company announcements.
0:38:19It doesn't matter what he's tweeting about, he's actually doing it, right?
0:38:22Yeah.
0:38:23He's on Twitter, he knows the product.
0:38:28I think he has a great presence in terms of public image.
0:38:35My only doubt is whether he will be able to do Twitter in the morning and Square in the
0:38:40afternoon because that seems to be the plan according to a Rekout story, but I'm positive.
0:38:46I think it's the right move.
0:38:48My feeling about that is he will be able to just...
0:38:52I expect that he will not be working on the day-to-day aspects at either companies and
0:38:56will be providing an overview or just guidance as to maybe the last person to make a decision
0:39:06about an important thing, that kind of role.
0:39:09I see if he can do that, then that makes way more sense to me and seems like a very possible
0:39:14thing to do.
0:39:15But we'll see.
0:39:17Stephen, what do you think about all of this?
0:39:21I'm excited.
0:39:22You know, from everything that has been reported to Federica's point has evolved and matured.
0:39:31Square is a really interesting company that is doing really, I think, at least really
0:39:36interesting things. I do think there might be a time and intention issue between the
0:39:43two companies, but I think that you can look at Square and see what Jack is capable of
0:39:49as a CEO. They're going to IPO pretty soon, this seems to be the story. The technology
0:39:58is great. It's easy to use. For a payment system platform, they have fans. That is crazy.
0:40:06platforms are the most exciting. Yeah, not the most exciting thing in the world
0:40:11but Square has done a good job at everything from branding to the
0:40:16technology to adoption and I think if Jack can wade through the muck that
0:40:23seems to be at Twitter right now there seems to be a lot of just confusion and
0:40:29unclear direction and I think if he can get through that and he can
0:40:35share his vision for the product should be then I think that that'll be good.
0:40:39I don't think it's going to be easy you know I don't think this is going to be a
0:40:44slam dunk you know thinking about Steve Jobs came back jobs cancelled almost all
0:40:50their products and then came out with a very simple idea of the grid of four
0:40:54you're going to have a professional and consumer desktop and notebook. They just made
0:40:59four Macs for a really long time it wasn't until the cube where they added a
0:41:02at a fifth machine.
0:41:04And Twitter's not Apple, right?
0:41:07You can't really compare them directly,
0:41:11but the idea that Jobs came in and sort of cleared the table
0:41:14and like, look, what are we good at?
0:41:16What can we do?
0:41:17How can we simplify?
0:41:19Those are all questions that Jack should be asking Twitter
0:41:21because 90s Apple and Twitter of today
0:41:25are similar in some ways.
0:41:27There are some details that are the same,
0:41:29that it's, the products are confusing.
0:41:32Onboarding is difficult.
0:41:34They financially are not in super great shape.
0:41:38I don't know what they're trading at today,
0:41:39but they're still well below IPO level, I believe.
0:41:42So can he do it?
0:41:44I think he can, but I do think this is gonna be a long road.
0:41:47This is not gonna be a three month turnaround for Twitter.
0:41:50But yeah, I'm excited about it.
0:41:53I have faith that he can do it.
0:41:56And I hope that he can,
0:41:57'cause I love Twitter like you guys do.
0:42:00I can't even imagine the internet or my life
0:42:03without Twitter at this point.
0:42:04It is so critical to everything that I do professionally
0:42:09and a lot of things I do personally.
0:42:11It going away is really scary.
0:42:13I don't think Twitter's in danger of that right now,
0:42:17but I think Jack can turn it around
0:42:20and make it a better product than it is today.
0:42:22That would be more than welcome.
0:42:25- Something that Jason says about this that I quite like,
0:42:28'cause me and him have spoken about this
0:42:29bunch of times on upgrade is it doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna make it a
0:42:33better product for us right but but I'm pretty much okay with that like Twitter
0:42:40could be harder in the future to use for people that are using third-party apps
0:42:45but more importantly I don't want it to go away right that that I care about
0:42:49that more than the app that I use because worst case scenario I can live
0:42:53with a Twitter app if it means that Twitter sticks around. I found it
0:42:57interesting that he said he wants to make Twitter more useful for existing users and
0:43:03easier for new ones.
0:43:04I don't know if I'm reading too much into that.
0:43:09What does it mean that they want to make it more useful?
0:43:11Because when I see useful and existing users or power users, that usually means more advanced
0:43:18features, the nerds, the API.
0:43:22be interesting because I remember there was another, maybe on Recode, another story a
0:43:28few weeks ago about Jack wanting to keep the API and actually bring new features to third-party
0:43:35Twitter clients. That would be interesting to see what kind of approach they want to
0:43:40take with these other apps. Basically on iOS there's Twitterrific and Tweetbot left of
0:43:45all the major players. You know, it used to be many many Twitter clients a few years ago,
0:43:50Now it's mostly down to two of them, maybe four if you want to count some of the minor
0:43:55ones, or at least the ones with a smaller user base.
0:43:58It'll be interesting to see what it means by more useful and existing users.
0:44:05Do you mean existing in the way that they already know Twitter or maybe they exist in
0:44:10other apps?
0:44:11That's my question.
0:44:12I'm curious.
0:44:13>> Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to see for sure.
0:44:17But hey, it's time.
0:44:20I'm pleased that he's back because I think that it just gives it gives it more of that story as well
0:44:26I think Twitter as a company need right now. Yeah, which I think which I think is really fun
0:44:30yeah, I mean, I mean Twitter is so as a as a service is so iconic and
0:44:35Sometimes look at Twitter as a service and how I use it and Twitter as a company and it's hard to imagine that
0:44:42They're one of the same right that
0:44:45You know you look at Apple as a company you could Apple as a products and very clearly the same thing right that Apple
0:44:51generates the products it does because Apple is the way that it is and
0:44:56The Twitter that we know is nerds is not mainstream Twitter
0:44:59and you know there's there's that that stress there right between users like us and the company and then the service at large and
0:45:07that's I
0:45:08Can't imagine that being super high up on on the to-do list for Jack. I've taken care of users like us
0:45:14but I do think that there's room for alignment between
0:45:18The Twitter the company and Twitter the service and and that's maybe a little disjointed right now
0:45:25definitely
0:45:27Alright, should we do some we've been doing collecting some connected Q&A
0:45:31Last day or so. So how do you do you want to do this round robin style? Yes. Yeah. Okay round robin style
0:45:38So I will begin and then should we go me Federico Steven?
0:45:44Let's go from based on latitude. So let's go from
0:45:48east to west
0:45:51So what's what's more to the east Italy London or Rome depends where you're starting from?
0:45:58What's this place this is
0:46:04All right
0:46:07Your first and so let's go Federico sure and me because then we'll go around the globe that way
0:46:12So Federico, would you like to take the question from Ken?
0:46:15>> Federico Paeschi Yes.
0:46:17So Ken asks, "Do you think an iPad 3 is coming?
0:46:23Upgrade my Air to a new iPad Air 2 now or hold off?
0:46:27I won't split screen badly."
0:46:31And man, I don't know.
0:46:34We haven't heard anything about an iPad Air 3 and usually about, you know, when it comes
0:46:39to iPads and new Apple devices, if Mark Gurman doesn't say anything about new devices coming
0:46:44soon, that's usually a sign that you should purchase an iPad Air 2.
0:46:49Now at least what's current now, if you really want split screen badly, I would say the iPad
0:46:55Air 2 is an excellent iPad.
0:46:58It's still going to be powerful enough next year.
0:47:01You can use split view until the next generation of iPads.
0:47:07And if you really don't want an iPad Pro but you want to keep the 10 inch iPad and you
0:47:12want to try Split View, I would say buy an iPad R2 now.
0:47:15That's my answer.
0:47:16I'm going to go for one of my theories.
0:47:20So I think now that all iPads will begin to go on an every two year cycle with the exception
0:47:27of the iPad Pro for the first and second version.
0:47:31So I believe that the iPad Pro will get a version this year and a version next year
0:47:35and then it will join the Mini and the Air
0:47:37for every two years.
0:47:39There's just not enough to keep putting in them.
0:47:41And they don't sell as well as the iPhones,
0:47:44so they may as well pack a bunch of power into them
0:47:47like they've just done to the Mini,
0:47:49and then just do it every two years.
0:47:52That's my feeling on it.
0:47:53I don't think they need to be doing iPads every year
0:47:55if the sales currently are not saying
0:47:58that that makes any sense.
0:48:00- Yeah, I agree.
0:48:01We talked about that a couple weeks ago, right,
0:48:03they could be going to a more computer-like release cycle.
0:48:08And I think that's fine.
0:48:09I mean, I've got the Air 2, and all three of us do,
0:48:13and it's such a good machine.
0:48:15Like, if you're on an older iPad,
0:48:18there's no reason not to upgrade, in my mind,
0:48:20to an Air 2 at this point.
0:48:22It really is a good device.
0:48:25And I think iPads age really well.
0:48:27I mean, you can look at the long tail of sales,
0:48:29that much people are running around
0:48:31with iPad 2s and 3s still,
0:48:32and they're fine on iOS 9, more or less.
0:48:35And so I think it's totally cool that Apple
0:48:37goes to a slower cycle where one year the Mini gets updated,
0:48:42one year the Air gets updated,
0:48:43no stress from me on that sort of thing.
0:48:47So I think Ken, I think if you wanna upgrade
0:48:50for split screen and stuff,
0:48:51the Air 2 is a good choice for you.
0:48:53- I agree.
0:48:54- So, I'm next.
0:48:59You have the only name that is impossible to pronounce.
0:49:02Go on, Stephen.
0:49:04"Guyak."
0:49:05"Guyak?"
0:49:06I don't think, it was their username.
0:49:07It wasn't, they didn't have a name on their Twitter profile.
0:49:10Sounds like "Kai-yak."
0:49:11I was gonna go with "Jack."
0:49:14"Jack."
0:49:15"Jack."
0:49:16It's G-I-A-C-K for the listeners out there that can't see our document.
0:49:19"Jack."
0:49:20That's how you say "Jack" if you're from Mississippi.
0:49:22"Jack!"
0:49:23"Jack."
0:49:24"Mississippi burn."
0:49:26I promise you at least one listener did not hear any difference between the way I mockingly
0:49:30said it and the way I actually said it, so let's leave that there.
0:49:34Does iOS 9 search not support looking up definitions in the dictionary?
0:49:38Know of any app that lets you do that.
0:49:40Federico, do you want to answer this one?
0:49:42You're the iOS 9 expert.
0:49:45I don't think it supports looking up dictionary entries.
0:49:48I was never able to do that with Spotlight on iOS 9.
0:49:52There's a bunch of dictionary apps on the App Store, there's Terminology, it's an excellent
0:49:58dictionary app.
0:50:00I don't know if it integrates with Spotlight but I don't think it does because it means
0:50:06that you should be able to look up any word, any definition in the iOS 9 search page.
0:50:13I don't think it's possible to do that so I would recommend installing one of these
0:50:19dictionary apps and using the search feature inside the app.
0:50:22It would make sense to be able to have a system-wide dictionary in the spotlight page, but the
0:50:28problem I guess is that for every word there should be a dictionary entry and maybe Apple
0:50:36doesn't want to do that, maybe they will do it eventually as the search page gets more
0:50:41stable or faster, I don't know.
0:50:45You cannot do this right now.
0:50:48- You can definitely, I think you should definitely
0:50:50get terminology, but another like real quick way to do it
0:50:55would be to open an app like notes or messages,
0:50:57type a word, double tap and click the define button.
0:51:00Like.
0:51:01- Yeah, but it wants to be able to just.
0:51:02- I know to search it easy.
0:51:04There isn't an easy way to define a word,
0:51:06but it is possible to define a word in iOS.
0:51:09- Or it could be like on the Mac with Alfred.
0:51:13I have a shortcut for the definitions, which is def.
0:51:17So I type like "def" - I don't know, what's a word that I like - I don't know, coffee.
0:51:26So I type "def coffee" and it gives me a preview snippet in the Alfred little box with the
0:51:31definition so I don't even have to open the dictionary app or to open an app and then
0:51:36click "define".
0:51:38That would be cool on iOS to have a shortcut for definitions and then kind of append the
0:51:43the word that you want to define and see a preview with the snippet in the search page.
0:51:48But no.
0:51:50There's one other thing we could try and do that I didn't think of until just now.
0:51:56Define connected.
0:51:57Wait, hang on.
0:51:59Define connected.
0:52:00Connect means bring together or into contact so that a real or notional link is established.
0:52:07There you go.
0:52:08So Siri will do it.
0:52:10Siri will do it.
0:52:12Yeah, I mean I think if you know something like terminology
0:52:18supports spotlight then I wonder if that was a something that Apple left out just
0:52:23to suit you know hoping that third-party app would would solve because on OS X
0:52:26you can well in my backboard you can force touch a word or you can triple tap
0:52:30there's a bunch of different things because there's a system dictionary on
0:52:33OS X and it defines it in a little popover but um yeah it's a good question I
0:52:38I didn't really thought about it, but it's a good one.
0:52:42So the next question will come from me then, and that is from Matthew.
0:52:46Matthew has asked, "Yesterday," as we were recording, which is the 6th of October 2015,
0:52:51"It has been four years since Steve Jobs passed away.
0:52:55How do you think that Apple has changed for the better or for the worse?"
0:52:59Stephen, I can see you have many thoughts.
0:53:01Why don't you begin?
0:53:03I do.
0:53:04I think that the idea that Apple is Steve Jobs' best product
0:53:09and maybe most important product is true.
0:53:13I think that he, especially in later years,
0:53:16through things like Apple University
0:53:18and grooming his leadership team,
0:53:22most of which is still in place,
0:53:24I think he was setting up Apple to stay the course
0:53:28in not necessarily in the way that Jobs made decisions
0:53:32or the way that he thought, but that systematically,
0:53:35that from an organizational standpoint,
0:53:37Apple would be okay.
0:53:41That said, I do think the company is different.
0:53:45I think you can look at things like
0:53:48the way the iPad line is, right?
0:53:52That there's a lot of old ones in there now
0:53:53to hit a price point.
0:53:55That I'm not sure would have happened under Jobs.
0:53:57I think that if anything, Apple has deviated
0:54:02course a little bit into more logistic type thinking,
0:54:0716 gig phones, right?
0:54:10And that Jobs was better at making decisions by feel
0:54:14and by thinking about the sort of the real world,
0:54:19maybe a little bit more than Cook
0:54:23and present leadership does.
0:54:25You know, I'm not saying that that's good or bad,
0:54:29I think it's bad in some cases,
0:54:31but I think it's different.
0:54:32I think that if you have a scale of what feels right
0:54:36or wrong and then what makes sense on paper,
0:54:39I think maybe they tilt towards what's better
0:54:44on paper a little bit.
0:54:45And of course there are examples of that
0:54:47in Steve Jobs' time as well.
0:54:49The chat room just pointed out that two little RAM
0:54:52and devices and a Macs happened under Steve Jobs.
0:54:54So I mean, that's always been going on.
0:54:57Apple's always kind of been on the cheap side sometimes,
0:55:00but I feel like it's a little more so now.
0:55:02I don't think it's out of hand yet,
0:55:04but I do hope that they course correct at some point
0:55:07to make sure they don't fall too far down that hole.
0:55:11- So I mean, I said this before,
0:55:14and I still feel the same,
0:55:15that I believe that as a company,
0:55:19Apple is better under Tim.
0:55:21Like as an organization,
0:55:22and what an organization's effect can be on the world,
0:55:26because Tim is way more,
0:55:29he seems way more altruistic at least on the outside and with what the company is able to do
0:55:34and it seems like he is more focused on making an effect on the world from what he as a person can do
0:55:41than maybe Steve was. Steve seemed to funnel all of that into the products that he created and
0:55:46changed the world that way where Tim is, you know, he makes political stands in some ways and he
0:55:53made, you know, when he came out as being gay and he wrote that great post about it, like those
0:55:58sort of things I think that they are really important from the most powerful
0:56:03man and the most one of the most powerful companies in the world so I
0:56:06think that Apple as a company is doing a lot of stuff differently that I really
0:56:12really like but of course you know who doesn't miss Steve yeah that's a good
0:56:17point Myke I think Apple maybe more so than other companies it sort of molds
0:56:24itself to its CEO's agenda and personality even, right?
0:56:29So Jobs, Apple was maybe more artistic,
0:56:35maybe more, a little more free-spirited in some ways,
0:56:40but very secretive.
0:56:41And you look at Tim's Apple and like you said,
0:56:44so much more going on in the way of just doing good
0:56:47in the world, right?
0:56:48They have the employee donation matching program,
0:56:51all this stuff that big corporations should all have,
0:56:53but that's what's important to Tim.
0:56:54And so it's important to Apple as well.
0:56:57And he uses Apple as a weapon in those fights sometimes.
0:57:01And I agree with you, I think it's great.
0:57:03I think it's, on my list, the number one best thing
0:57:07that Tim has done, from a CEO perspective,
0:57:10is using Apple as a force for good.
0:57:14It's not something that Jobs is particularly interested in
0:57:17most of the time.
0:57:20I feel like there's a certain empathy about Tim Cook's Apple that I couldn't feel under
0:57:30Steve Jobs.
0:57:31Like when Steve was around, and I don't just miss Steve, I'm sad because I know that I
0:57:43will never get to meet Steve, even from a distance.
0:57:47I miss the fact that it's gone as a person, not just as a CEO.
0:57:53But I feel like when Steve was around, Apple was more of a... like an artistic piece.
0:58:00Apple was his creation and instead with Tim Cook, he's still working on Apple as a sort
0:58:07of... as a company, as an idea with the Apple University, with all these things to keep
0:58:13the culture intact.
0:58:16But it's also using Apple to make good in the world and that makes me feel closer to
0:58:25Apple today.
0:58:26You know, when you look at its letter when it came out as gay and also all the initiatives
0:58:36to match employees' donations to a research kit, health kit and the Apple Watch and the
0:58:43fitness aspect. It makes it feel more, I don't want to say human, because you know
0:58:48Steve was a person too, but I see Apple as having an impact on society, on
0:58:55many other things in our lives, not just an appreciation of the device, of the
0:59:03product, but Apple as an organization that uses the money to improve other
0:59:09aspects of our life and of our planet and that's different and I feel like that's better.
0:59:16For me it looks like a better Apple, although I do miss Steve of course.
0:59:21Yeah I think that goes without saying for all of us but there is a difference there
0:59:27that is interesting to see for sure.
0:59:30Alright, shall we take a break and then move on?
0:59:34Yeah.
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1:01:29So, Federico, do you want to carry on?
1:01:33Yes, so the next question is actually directed at me, from Mikkel, I guess.
1:01:41Yeah, we'll go with Mikkel.
1:01:43Mikkel, what does Federico think of the iPad Mini 4?
1:01:49I don't know what to think, I guess it's a, if you like the iPad Mini, it's a good update,
1:01:55faster, it's got a much better screen, it allows for more multitasking features on iOS 9.
1:02:04It really depends on whether you want to try the new multitasking stuff, so slide over
1:02:09and split view on a bigger iPad like the iPad R2 and the upcoming iPad Pro or if you want
1:02:15the same features on a smaller iPad.
1:02:18So keep in mind, Mikael, that with such a small screen, using two apps at the same time
1:02:25can feel really cramped, I guess. There's simply not enough room to show two apps, I
1:02:32mean, you can show two apps, you can use two apps at the same time, but it won't be as
1:02:38comfortable or as easy maybe to interact with them as it would be on an iPad Air 2 or an
1:02:44iPad Pro. Also keep in mind that on the iPad R2 when you use two apps in compact mode,
1:02:50you can already tell that you're using two small apps and that's on a 10 inch device.
1:02:57I would suggest if you're looking at the iPad Mini 4 because of the improved hardware and
1:03:02the new iOS 9 features, I would say go to an Apple Store, check it out with the Split
1:03:07View with Slide Over, see how it feels to use two apps at the same time on an iPad Mini.
1:03:14And try to do the same on an iPad Air 2 and see what you find more, not useful because
1:03:21you may not be able to judge the utility of that during an Apple Store demo, but just
1:03:26the physical aspect of using two apps, tapping interface elements on an iPad Mini 4.
1:03:32If you love the iPad Mini, get the iPad Mini 4 because it's much better, color reproduction
1:03:38on the screen is better than the iPad Mini 3, it's got better hardware.
1:03:42If you really need or like an iPad Mini, go with the iPad Mini 4, but if it's a software-related
1:03:50question, I would say try it first on every iPad.
1:03:57Maybe just wait a month, try it on the iPad Pro too, but if you're the type of guy who
1:04:01likes an iPad Mini, maybe you don't want to use an iPad Pro.
1:04:05But still, try multitasking on the iPad Mini 4 and the iPad R2 and see how it feels to
1:04:10use it.
1:04:11That would be my recommendation.
1:04:13- So I'm breaking the round robin format
1:04:15because I had some questions that I wanted to ask you.
1:04:18(laughs)
1:04:19- Okay.
1:04:20- So Myke wrote in to say,
1:04:23so Federico, if the iPad Pro--
1:04:26- Oh, this is you, Myke, you.
1:04:27- This is me.
1:04:28This is why I'm breaking the format.
1:04:29I have asked the question.
1:04:31If the iPad Pro ends up being amazing for you
1:04:34and you love it, would you consider a two iPad system?
1:04:37Now I know this sounds crazy, right?
1:04:39But I imagine one for power, the iPad Pro, and one for portability, like how I have a
1:04:44Mac at home and a laptop and iPad that I take to somewhere else.
1:04:48I don't think that sounds crazy when you put it in those terms.
1:04:51So would you consider something like this?
1:04:53You would say business at the desk and party on the go.
1:04:57Exactly.
1:04:58That's your idea.
1:04:59Yeah, that's my idea.
1:05:00And Myke, no.
1:05:03I wouldn't do that because I know that I said that I use the iPad, you know, when I walk
1:05:10around the house, when I'm in my car, when I'm waiting somewhere for, you know, longer
1:05:16than an hour, but I wouldn't use two iPads, Myke.
1:05:21Yeah, but the feeling is like, say you get the iPad Pro and you're like, this is incredible.
1:05:25This is the perfect iPad experience.
1:05:26I have two apps side by side.
1:05:28I have this great keyboard.
1:05:30But then you're like, ah, this is too big to use in the car.
1:05:33I really love this fantastic device with the OS that I love at home, do you see where I'm
1:05:40going with it?
1:05:41So then you're torn.
1:05:42And then the logical situation then is to get an iPad Mini 4 and an iPad Pro so you
1:05:47can get the best of both worlds.
1:05:48I thought about this, Myke.
1:05:51But two factors to consider.
1:05:55My girlfriend would kill me if I had to use two iPads to buy two iPads.
1:06:00Because at that point I would go with the iPad Pro and the iPad Mini 4, which means
1:06:04two iPads to buy and also a new iPhone.
1:06:08From a family perspective, it's not a wise decision, Myke.
1:06:11I would feel bad about buying all this stuff.
1:06:15And I would also look stupid.
1:06:16I'm the guy with two iPads, you know?
1:06:20But the main problem, Myke, is that if I'm going with the iPad Pro, I'm going all in
1:06:26with the iPad Pro.
1:06:27I'm going to use it every time.
1:06:30You know, I don't understand, it's not that I don't understand, I couldn't do with the
1:06:39CGP strategy of having multiple iPads, I just would go crazy with having the same notification
1:06:45settings on both iPads, having the same workflows, having the same icons in the same place.
1:06:53my mind couldn't bear two iPads, because I would have... I obsess over consistency when
1:07:01it comes to wallpapers, icons, the sharesheet with the same menus in the same place, you
1:07:07know? So two iPads would be a problem for that. But the main thing is, if I buy an iPad
1:07:15Pro it's because I feel like I can use it anywhere. And I want to have that... because
1:07:22Because I wouldn't want to be in a position where I wish I was at home with my iPad Pro
1:07:28because the multitasking is so much better on the iPad Pro, but now I'm in the car and
1:07:32I'm kind of using the iPad Mini 4, but I'm like "I really don't want to use this iPad,
1:07:36I wish I had the iPad Pro".
1:07:38And at that point, if the experience of iOS 9 is so much better on the Pro, I'm just going
1:07:42to use the Pro all the time.
1:07:44And if I need the portability, I do what I do now.
1:07:46In those cases, I have a 6+.
1:07:50I cannot wait for the iPad Pro to come out.
1:07:53And see what I do.
1:07:54So we can see what you actually end up doing.
1:07:56Not that I think you won't do what you're saying, but I'm really kind of looking forward
1:08:00to, not in a mean way, the crisis you're going to have as to how you continue.
1:08:05Because this is a very, very different device and it has a lot of good things, but potentially
1:08:11some bad things.
1:08:12So I'm very interested.
1:08:14I'm more excited for this device to come out for you to try it than I am for me to try
1:08:19Right.
1:08:20But I have to say, I have to say that I put together this Q&A and some of the show notes
1:08:25stuff today on my iPad, which I usually don't do that, and being able to use the slide over
1:08:31for Twitter and just copying the tweets and then pasting them into the document was very,
1:08:35very nice.
1:08:36I mean, it would have been even better if the Google Docs app had multitasking support
1:08:40so I didn't have to keep swiping backwards and forwards, but that's a discussion for
1:08:42another time.
1:08:44I really, really did find it a pleasurable experience to sit and do that this morning.
1:08:49All I'm saying, Myke, is that if I find myself able to use the iPad Pro,
1:08:56it has to be for me an iPad monogamy, you know? I cannot have two iPads.
1:09:04You're just fishing for a title now.
1:09:05No, no, no, no. I was trying to think of the best word to describe this one-way relationship,
1:09:14And that's it, you know, there can only be one iPad in my life because all my icons,
1:09:21all my apps, all my workflows, all my notifications, and if I like that iPad, I know I want to
1:09:30use it all the time.
1:09:32So just not two iPads, Myke.
1:09:35I cannot do that.
1:09:36You have a lot of love to give, but just for one iPad.
1:09:39Yes.
1:09:40For a year until you upgrade it.
1:09:42There is that.
1:09:43That's another topic.
1:09:45That's another topic.
1:09:47Okay, Steven, you're up next.
1:09:49Will asks, "What are your thoughts on Nespresso?"
1:09:52So this is, in case you didn't catch that, but you'd go, "Nespresso," with an "N".
1:09:57Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know Nespresso.
1:09:59Okay.
1:10:01This is difficult. So, you know when, like, it's 4 a.m. and you don't want to cook, you know,
1:10:09you just go to a McDonald's because that's the only thing that's open at 4am.
1:10:14And it's easy and fast and you don't have to do anything about it.
1:10:17That's the same with Nespresso.
1:10:20I have many friends who buy Nespresso, but that's what you do when you cannot make an
1:10:29espresso because maybe you don't want to, it's easier, it's faster.
1:10:34My parents drink Nespresso every day and I'm ashamed because, you know, why would they
1:10:42do that?
1:10:43But my thoughts, see, how can I give you my thoughts?
1:10:47It's like...
1:10:48You bring shame to our family.
1:10:54My thought is I always have time for a real espresso.
1:10:59But if you find yourself in the position where it's so much easier and it's faster and it's
1:11:06convenient, also from a pricing perspective maybe, it's not the end of the world and it's
1:11:13still better than what these American people do.
1:11:18It's a kind of, you know, really think about it, think if you want to go the Nespresso
1:11:23way.
1:11:24If you really have to, know that at least you will be better positioned to experience a decent or at least sufficient level of caffeine and taste than what these other guys do.
1:11:41Definitely.
1:11:43Sorry Steven, sorry Myke.
1:11:44No, don't apologise, I'm not a massive fan of it.
1:11:47Nikhil asked, "Do you guys use screen protectors on your iPhones?"
1:11:53I don't, I really hate these things.
1:11:56Yeah, I don't.
1:11:58It's the same theory that I have every time.
1:12:02All these protections that people put on their phones and tablets, they just make them bulky
1:12:08and then there's a little...
1:12:11When you use these screen protectors, there's always that little bubble between the protector
1:12:16and the screen that bothers me immensely every time I look at a friend's iPhone. I don't
1:12:24like it.
1:12:27Steven of you.
1:12:28Nope. That's gross in every way. It's up to you Federico.
1:12:35From Graham, what kind of recurring reminders do you guys put in "due" - so it's the reminder
1:12:43app or another app. So recurring reminders, want to pay rent each month, otherwise my
1:12:53landlord is going to kick me out. Pay rent, pay the bills. Actually I've been using todo
1:13:02for the past few months because of one simple feature, checklists. I have many repeating
1:13:09checklists that I go through each week. So I have a checklist for MaxAriesWeekly, our
1:13:15newsletter, because there's a bunch of steps that I need to make sure they're complete,
1:13:20you know, every Friday. I have a checklist for assembling the virtual document, the show
1:13:25that Myke and I do about video games. What else? I created checklists during the summer
1:13:34for the iOS 9 beta because there were a few things that I wanted to check on each beta
1:13:39seed.
1:13:40That wasn't exactly a repeating one, it was just a checklist that I went through and I
1:13:45repeated that for each beta, but there was no fixed schedule.
1:13:49So the ones that I make a recurring reminder each week is pay rent, pay the bills, do the
1:13:57virtual document and prepare Mac service weekly.
1:14:00That's what I do.
1:14:01I really like the look of their app. It's very pretty. But that icon...
1:14:06The to-do icon?
1:14:08Yeah.
1:14:08Yeah, try not to be too political about icons.
1:14:12I can't help it though. I look at it and it's upsetting to me.
1:14:16I want to try this out though because I like the idea of that.
1:14:20I use OmniFocus and I love OmniFocus but I would like to be able to have
1:14:26recurring checklists for certain things and I don't want to put all of those actions
1:14:31in OmniFocus because then my forecast for you says 30 which gives me an undue amount of stress.
1:14:38So I like the idea of, so I assume you can set up a checklist and then say this you have to show me
1:14:45this checklist every Monday at two o'clock. - Yep. - I'm gonna give it a go and I like that it's
1:14:50everywhere. It's one of those apps. I'm all about systems. - They're coming out with a great update
1:14:55for iOS 9 and there's so... like it can be complex. It's the kind of app with a lot of
1:15:02options and a lot of settings but once you configure it the way you want it, it can be
1:15:07super powerful. You can do checklists that are complete. When they're done you can make
1:15:12them recurring checklists and say "I want to repeat this upon completion" so it starts
1:15:19and new basically, it's so much easier to save links in this app from the extension
1:15:26when you use Safari or other apps.
1:15:30And the next update is going to have some more shortcuts that I suggested, so I'm really
1:15:35excited about what to do.
1:15:38But it can be a little too much for some people.
1:15:41Still, if you want the checklist, Myke, it's your best option I guess I think.
1:15:46Alright, I'm gonna, I'll take a look at it. I'll take a look at it. But I mean, the sort of stuff, I don't really put a lot of recurring reminders in due.
1:15:54I have one in there, just to remind me to turn Audio Hijack on with me and Gray Record Cortex,
1:16:02because we don't record live, we don't have another backup, so I want to make sure we have a backup.
1:16:06And then I put things in there kind of on a daily basis, like take out the trash, that kind of stuff.
1:16:12just like these little reminders that I want to set for myself or time to have
1:16:16lunch because you have to have lunch now because you have to call it to a
1:16:18o'clock that kind of thing. It may be controversial but I don't use a separate
1:16:24app for little reminders like that all that goes into OmniFocus so I have a
1:16:28project called home and that's where things like every Sunday evening take
1:16:32the bin down to the street so the guys come on Monday morning and pick it up
1:16:36and that's sort of just repetitive stuff but so much of my work at Relay is
1:16:41repetitive so I have two days a week where I, that's fine, so like Tuesday and Friday are bank days so
1:16:51Tuesday and Friday I have repeating tasks of like I need to do these four
1:16:55things or you know however many it is to complete bank day and it's you know go
1:17:00by the post office you know etc etc and so for me any system that does not offer
1:17:08good repeating tasks is just not useful to me. And all that's an
1:17:13OmniFocus for me. So it's all kind of mixed in together. So I know some people
1:17:16forget when they hear that, that you know little to-dos and your projects should
1:17:20be different. But for me it's all just kind of in one place and that works
1:17:25well for me. So yeah I live by recurring tasks most of the time. See I use the
1:17:32OmniFocus forecast view as an indicator of how busy my day is gonna be. So see
1:17:37- Seeing like 25 on there would make me feel like
1:17:41I will be working for 35 hours today.
1:17:44- Yeah.
1:17:45- You know, like I can't, it just doesn't,
1:17:47I like to see like under 10.
1:17:50- You're not working 35 hours a day?
1:17:52- Not yet, I'm working on it, I'm up to 26.
1:17:55- Yeah, me too.
1:17:56Zach asks, what do you guys,
1:18:02what have you guys used split view on El Capitan
1:18:05for the most?
1:18:06having two Safari windows open side by side is what Zach says. What about
1:18:11you Myke? At the moment I've been using it for a presentation that I'm working on
1:18:15for release notes the most so I've had Keynote and Notes next to each other.
1:18:20I haven't really used Split View too much outside of that. I've done it with
1:18:23like Chrome tabs so like if I'm looking at one spreadsheet and I need another
1:18:29spreadsheet then I might set up to Chrome windows and put them next to each
1:18:32other that kind of stuff so it's pretty cool for that. Yeah that's... Pass. Yeah, yeah, okay. That's a good point.
1:18:42I haven't been doing it a lot but buying very similar uses as you so the other day I
1:18:47needed to reconcile a couple spreadsheets and have them side by side. I tried using
1:18:53it for some research I was doing for an article where I had Chrome and then I
1:18:57had had notes and that's nice I mean it's there's still you know a little
1:19:02weirdness if you go to open a new window it doesn't quite know where to go and
1:19:05there's some rough edges with the way it's implemented but all in all like I
1:19:09didn't think I'd use it at all so using it a handful of times is a win for for
1:19:13the new split view but you know I'm using it you know either I mean the
1:19:18smallest Mac display I use now is my 15 inch MacBook Pro usually it's hooked up
1:19:22to a 27 inch display on my desk so it's it's it's nice big but I think if I had
1:19:27a smaller machine like if I was using my wife's MacBook more I could see it being
1:19:31a bigger boon on something like that, like full screen was.
1:19:35But yeah, it's helpful under certain circumstances for me, but definitely not something I'm using
1:19:41all day every day.
1:19:43I wish I could do split screen with Safari tabs or Chrome tabs on iOS.
1:19:50Yeah, have two instances of the browser open.
1:19:56You can sort of fake this.
1:19:58I'm gonna give you a t-t-tip, Myke.
1:20:01If you really need to see two web pages at the same time, you could do this.
1:20:08Install Copy Feed from the App Store, it's a clipboard manager.
1:20:12What this lets you do is you can copy a link to a web page, put it into Copy Feed, then
1:20:21you can tap and hold the link and it gives you an option to open, which brings up Safari
1:20:26View Controller.
1:20:28you can open Safari, split the screen and you have Safari View Controller and Safari
1:20:32next to each other in Split View.
1:20:34>> NICK BUTCHER-
1:20:54I... so I'm sorry I'm...
1:20:57You cannot perfect art and love, huh?
1:21:00You know, as Noel Gallagher used to say, "True perfection has to be imperfect."
1:21:08So I'll tell you what I do, and I apologize to American listeners who may not be used
1:21:12to these units.
1:21:15What I do is, each hundred grams of pasta, a hundred milliliters of sauce.
1:21:23Let me specify here. It depends on the sauce, right? I
1:21:27Buy one of one of those. I don't know how you call it in America. Can I use Italian here?
1:21:35Yes, please. It's Paul Padipomodoro
1:21:38It's tomato
1:21:41Not, you know the one that is mostly liquid. There's like little pieces of tomato and
1:21:47it's like
1:21:50Man, I really don't know how to call this in English
1:21:53It's like it's like a tomato sauce with pieces of tomato in it. Yeah, it's not all completely blended
1:21:59Yeah, it's the good one. You know the good quality not just it looks like ketchup. It doesn't look like ketchup
1:22:06It's little pieces and it's not completely liquid and blended
1:22:10So when I have to prepare sauce that has you know tomato in it
1:22:15I try to do this ratio so a hundred milliliters for a hundred grams
1:22:20usually in my house a
1:22:24Single portion for one person is a hundred grams at least
1:22:29So what Sylvia and I do is two hundred grams for two people so 200 grams of pasta and
1:22:36A single can of pulpa which is two around 200 milliliters. Do you?
1:22:45Yeah, I do.
1:22:47Because each pasta has a different, each piece has a different weight.
1:22:52So I haven't learned how to do it just by looking at it.
1:22:58I need to weigh it.
1:22:59We have a scale with an LCD display.
1:23:03So I try to use this ratio but it's mostly, and this sounds totally idealistic, it has
1:23:13to feel good when it's in the frying pan, when you're cooking the sauce, it has to look,
1:23:22it has to feel like the right amount of sauce for the type of pasta that you're cooking.
1:23:28And it really depends also on taste. Do you like your pasta to have a lot of sauce? Do
1:23:34you like it to be not dry, but still that it's not too much?
1:23:39I like a drier pasta personally.
1:23:41Yeah, yeah.
1:23:42And it depends on the kind of sauce.
1:23:44There's some sauces that I like, you know, it needs to be a lot of sauce and less pasta.
1:23:50Other types of, you know, pasta that I like to have like a lot of penete, for example,
1:23:57and not as much sauce.
1:23:59So there's no perfect ratio.
1:24:01That's what I was trying to say.
1:24:02When it comes to the polpa, that's what I try to do.
1:24:06but it really depends on what you're trying to cook.
1:24:10Just one thing about cooking pasta for American and European listeners, please don't overcook
1:24:16your pasta.
1:24:18Whatever's on the box for cooking time, do two minutes less.
1:24:21Al dente.
1:24:22What was that?
1:24:23I've forgotten it again.
1:24:24Yes.
1:24:25Motto al dente.
1:24:26Motto al dente.
1:24:27There we go.
1:24:28So if it says 10 minutes, try to do eight and then, this is another common mistake,
1:24:34And just take the pasta and just drip the sauce on it while on the plate.
1:24:41Take the pasta, put it in the same pan of the sauce and give it another minute to mix
1:24:46it all together.
1:24:48To mix the pasta with the sauce, then put it in the plate.
1:24:52So you will enjoy some really mixed pasta and sauce really together.
1:24:58Al dente.
1:25:00So it's not soft.
1:25:02Nobody likes soft pasta.
1:25:05You're supposed to eat pasta, not a marshmallow.
1:25:08That's what I do.
1:25:09Stephen, as the gluten-free member of the group, what is your opinion on this?
1:25:15Miserable pasta.
1:25:16Oh no!
1:25:17And on that note, I want to take a moment to thank everybody for listening this week.
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1:25:53Until then, say goodbye guys.
1:25:55Adios derci.