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164: Waiting for the Bla-Bloop

 

00:00:00   I like the fact that every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01   started call i have to click the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1">TS</a>]

00:00:03   to say that I want to see the chat even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05   though every single time Mr Colley do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5">TS</a>]

00:00:07   yeah of all of all the work they've put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7">TS</a>]

00:00:09   into skype they've never decided to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   that persistent you know God forbid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/11">TS</a>]

00:00:12   application remember anything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/12">TS</a>]

00:00:15   do it it's born in New everyone happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/15">TS</a>]

00:00:18   birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   we have important things to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   so we should dive right in house the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   Tesla not that different from my opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   of it last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/26">TS</a>]

00:00:27   it's amazing like yeah it's just amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   I i really am appreciating it more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32   more everyday which and I already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   appreciate it quite a bit so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/34">TS</a>]

00:00:35   saying a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/35">TS</a>]

00:00:36   I'm very happy with the decision I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   to go with it I'm also very happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   the one I chose to get not getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   faster with less range for a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/42">TS</a>]

00:00:43   money i I'm just very happy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   now tell me about you tweeted earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   today as we record that you put like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   this little teeny tiny USB stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   what is this all about is this to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   like a three fish songs because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   like a 30 gig stick right so that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   three or four fish songs it's 220 a cake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   sticks so it's six fish songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/60">TS</a>]

00:01:01   fair enough i don't actually need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   hundred twenty eight gigs of storage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   my car but it was like 10 bucks more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07   that's what i needed so it's like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   just in case i'm sure i will have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   reason to use under 20k USB stick it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   like 40 bucks is that all they aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   could grief yeah exactly so this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   is the first USB stick i've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   purchased really i've never really used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   them and I I've accumulated enough like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   little ones from freebies from things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   here and there over the last decade that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   if I ever needed one for like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   one time every two years I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   actually need 1i would just use one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35   those but none of them are big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   and and if you wait until 2016 to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/97">TS</a>]

00:01:40   USB stick USB sticks are really good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   are almost free so I want something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   very small because this is in the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/106">TS</a>]

00:01:47   in the center console of the car it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   like in the passenger was visible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   it's protrudes from from a port so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   wanted to be as small as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   you know there is a base like this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   and a sandesh one and the reviews of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   Santa's gonna haul said that overheated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/119">TS</a>]

00:02:00   constantly and was and like ran weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   hot all the time and land the samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   what everyone said that works great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   doesn't overheat like that we're Santa's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07   one so I want that and the only the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/127">TS</a>]

00:02:10   downside of it you know it's incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   sb3 and has really high quality flash in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   there it's a samsung is really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17   flash i also have samsung external flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   drive just in a two-and-a-half-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/140">TS</a>]

00:02:21   enclosure from a computer because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   make two gig SD or sorry two terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   ssds now for like 600 bucks and granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   $16 a lot of money and two terabytes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33   not an earth-shattering amount of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/153">TS</a>]

00:02:34   and 2016 however a two terabyte SSD that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/154">TS</a>]

00:02:38   exists at all let alone is an affordable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   price is quite something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   yeah so I'm very happy with that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   it is totally silent and very very fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   and so I started on my media on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   anyway so this little samsung stick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   only flaw in it is that it has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   giant Samsung logo written on the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   of it sticks out so I just send it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   with some you know like sandpaper in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   about five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/181">TS</a>]

00:03:02   I found my garage and it's great so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   it's a nice blank is a USB Drive that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   turns out USB stick your kind of useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   sometimes so anyway the reason is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   my car is a because the car has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/192">TS</a>]

00:03:16   ability to like many modern car stereos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/196">TS</a>]

00:03:20   to browse folders of mp3 files that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   put on USB storage medium media and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   don't think i have to double check but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   I'm i was pretty sure that it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29   have the ability to use like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   ipod music browsing interface off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   the iphone that was plugged in so which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   is fine because i actually prefer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39   having folders i can organize things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   because I don't take my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   collection in the car because most my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   collection and doesn't matter in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/225">TS</a>]

00:03:46   so it's nice to kind of build organized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   into folders and have actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   subfolders at like so i have a folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   for fish 2015 and then in that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   each 2015 tour like an organized and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   want which is kind of different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   what you get in like a typical ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02   thing and it plays the songs in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   which thank god it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/245">TS</a>]

00:04:08   I don't know who who designed whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   system many other car manufacturers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/250">TS</a>]

00:04:14   head unit manufacturers use wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   whatever you insert it plays the songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   like alphabetically by song title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   whoever wants to hear things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   alphabetically by song title there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/266">TS</a>]

00:04:26   orders that you're like to play things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   in either the order that they are on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   album or shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   nobody ever wants any other order yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   the i have I don't remember how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   music I have my car only have about 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   gigs that's available to me I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   but I almost exclusively listen to stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   on my car and even the Bluetooth stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   is pretty good on my car i find it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   easier to navigate the eye dr and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   with that in mind would you why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   not use bluetooth on the test i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   think not having played with it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   that being able to manipulate things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   the test would be a lot easier because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/299">TS</a>]

00:05:00   you have that whole big display there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   but i guess if all you really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   available to you via bluetooth is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   skip forward skippack play/pause maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   it's not really any different than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   other car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   you're right that having to be displayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   there actually does make it much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   useful when you're doing things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/313">TS</a>]

00:05:14   navigating a USB stick full of folders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   and stuff so that is awesome on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   you are also right that bluetooth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   very limited its interaction and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   this problem worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   Tesla's bluetooth implementation isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   particularly great it's it's an ok one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   but there's a couple of shortcomings the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   biggest one to me is that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   display the time elapsed or remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   which is really annoying for podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   more more humorously there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   method to transfer album art and many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   blue stereos will show album art as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   transferred from anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   I think that's actually an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   extension to the standard or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   anyway it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   test doesn't support the album art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   extension or whatever displays albemarle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   over bluetooth so instead they show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   the album art from some kind of central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   album art database of a fuzzy match of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   whatever title is being supplied by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   device so it tries to be smart but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   you end up with completely nonsensical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/370">TS</a>]

00:06:13   random often like slightly risque album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/373">TS</a>]

00:06:17   art when you're listening to like back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/379">TS</a>]

00:06:19   it's like it's a it makes no sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   look at the other day was like back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   work and feeling someone growing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   bikini like some albums like you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   be kidding me like at that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   driving around like my game is my son's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   high school or preschool parking lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   and they're like this bikini girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   showing on my dashboard like oh my god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/396">TS</a>]

00:06:37   got a little something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   that's not gonna work it so yeah that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42   very student eh I I hope Tesla improves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/402">TS</a>]

00:06:47   that shortly i'm not i'm not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   keep my hopes of your site i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   chances are they'll just be had this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   is for most of the time i have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   because nobody cares about this area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   the software accept me but yeah well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/417">TS</a>]

00:07:02   said you never work at Apple would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   work at Tesla i mean i don't really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   to move to California for a job however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   i'll actually did I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   recently like you know what I what I be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   interested in working for husband and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   think i think it would be actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   potentially very interesting it i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/435">TS</a>]

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00:14:21   supports the new purple safari so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/861">TS</a>]

00:14:25   are having the same woes that I was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   can run the beta additionally there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   switch and preferences that a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   people wrote wrote in to tell me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   and forgive me because i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   neither your names or the preference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   front of me but even on the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   version somewhere in like the advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   preferences where they have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   Yoda or the little Jedi looking person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   on the right-hand side of the robot or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   not there's a switch that says you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49   override the security checks on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/889">TS</a>]

00:14:52   browser but anyway we're not here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   talk about one password were here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   talk about purple safari so have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   guys been using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/897">TS</a>]

00:14:57   I'm switched everywhere and last week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   was worried that switching the that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   have to somehow disabled my regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   safari or would like get launched by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   like an apple event somewhere or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   know whatever on but after using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   both at home and at work for a week my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   fears were unfounded you switch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   default browser in the Safari preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   pains for either version of Safari you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   know pull the other one off your dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   and it's purple safari all the way from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   there and it works fine maybe only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   annoyance i found is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   that it unlike chrome which will like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   sync your extensions everywhere I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   sort of reinstall my safari extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   and a lot of them i had to kind of track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   down and find the original websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   where I mean I just dug them out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36   folder but I was trying to you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   was a good time to just get them from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/939">TS</a>]

00:15:40   the web again or go through the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   maybe get that the later version if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43   had a bad update your help anyway i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   to reinstall my extensions rear and I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   rearrange all my icons on my toolbar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   re-import the options like I have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   this far keyword extension lets you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   stuff in the address bar and do searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   I'd export those from safari import [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   never once i got everything set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   I'm all purple sorry now and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   I'll just stay this way unless i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   some compelling reason to switch back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/962">TS</a>]

00:16:03   like purpose of our suddenly starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   crashing but so far so good i recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   people trying it out if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/967">TS</a>]

00:16:08   interested in maybe having a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   faster safari or if you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   any of the the many new web technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   that are interested like if your web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/975">TS</a>]

00:16:16   developer and wanna try to map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   yeah I didn't feel like it was faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   although that very well could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   placebo the fact but my remember things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/985">TS</a>]

00:16:26   well this feels fast so I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   if you do you feel like it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   quicker for you as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32   purple is faster ever notice that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   totally alright good talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36   I don't know what that reference was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   was one anyway so there's been a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/998">TS</a>]

00:16:42   considerable kerfuffle going across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   internet over the last couple of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   about TextExpander six text expander is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50   an app that have a sponsored us in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   past i believe they have a sponsor so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   much stuff i think i'm pretty sure like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56   I mean I think pfn sponsor my side while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   battle back is also smile so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   they've probably spotted our stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   so text expander six is new and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:08   moving to a subscription model and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   previously was somewhere between like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   20 bucks depending on the platform i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   believe and they tended to do an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   about once a year from what i gather i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   actually not a text expander user but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   I'm that that's the general gist of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   I've understood and they've announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   that hey they're going to switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:27   subscription pricing it's about 50 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   a year give or take and you can get sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   through their own servers kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   what one passwords doing now with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   password four teams and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   password families and actually day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41   as well so you can sync via their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:44   servers and you can have collaborations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:48   or you can have a shared TextExpander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   snippets across teams if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   something that you're interested in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   by the way we are not supporting dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:59   based sink anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   basically it's either use the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   version until it doesn't work anymore or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   give us money and well and will give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09   the new hotness and a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   flustered and we'll put a link to je [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:15   sais blog which as always is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:19   good summary this is one of the longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   ones I've seen actually but a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   good summary and it kind of goes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   a lot of different reactions and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28   the general summary is those who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   developers are no developers completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   understand it and and are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   willing to pay for it but those who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39   just users or can kind of put on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42   user hat they it's it's a tough sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:46   because I'm like 1password their kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50   taking something away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   1password like it will continue to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   use dropbox least for now and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:56   that smiles taking away that option for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   any future versions so i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01   don't really have a lot to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:02   this because like I said we're not text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   expander user but it's certainly a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   thing because how do you make money in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   the app store these days I mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   easy as a Marco no it's really not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   mean you know my my view on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15   certainly colored by my own experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   within the app store and and I have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   distance from it because while I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   purchase the most recent version texted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   before this when I was thinking I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   actually answer support emails I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29   currently use it because I turns out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   can't answer support emails so I I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   an active user so it doesn't i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34   really invested in it either way and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37   the same time I also now sell an appt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   with subscription pricing sort of i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   why a lot of people are mad about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   what I've seen from my own experience it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47   is that people get mad when they sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   that you're like double dipping or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   unfairly charging in and whatever their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55   view is unfair or if you charge them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:59   if you ask for money or if you put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   barriers in a way that they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   accustomed to that breaks their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   expectations of like I've never had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   pay this way before or never had to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   for this thing before or i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   already owned this thing out right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   this is all very very tricky these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   because the reality is people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   expectations of software you buy it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:22   then you know you can use it for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   until maybe there's an upgrade a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   years down the road and then you by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27   upgrade maybe a discount people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   expectations of that kind of software is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   that you pay once and then you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   and at the same time though they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   expect updates to it they expect you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   be fixing bugs to be providing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   compatibility for new version of the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43   and possibly even adding features all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   within that same initial price they paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   somewhere on the line like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   doesn't work they are fatally the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   are thinking of the benefits of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   software and the responsibility of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   software makers as a service that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   constantly provided over time for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   one initial purchase price but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   they get really mad if you want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07   pay on a subscription basis for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   they are really getting which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   subscription benefits it's kind of hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   to not do that in some way or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   day filled with your software vendor you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   are having ongoing costs you're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   cost as a service whether you're running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   servers or not it's like you're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23   constant ongoing maintenance of this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   and and you know advancing moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   forward keeping it working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   improving etc so there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:33   disconnect between what people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   willing to pay for which is they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   pay once and own it forever but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   that if you don't give them constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43   updates they will hate you even more for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   that and they certainly don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   out of business they really hate when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   you do that or when you pull a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   they really hate that so that's worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:54   so they want you to be there and to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   providing updates on a regular basis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   to fix any bugs the crop up and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   improve the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   make it work whenever there's new OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   they want that but they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   pay more than that one time upfront so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   obviously something has to give here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   I don't begrudge the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   subscription pricing i do think however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   that this particular case I i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   think they did a very good job with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   and I'm not too close to it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:26   maybe i'm wrong but i think the reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   of a lot of their customers that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:30   been hearing about from today at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   might backup that I'm right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   what text expander has done is they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   transformed from a like what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40   president like 35 bucks something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   that i don't know to be honest I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   it was closer to 20 originally but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   very well could have that wrong i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   whatever it is i think it's somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   that range right it has transformed from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   that into a required five dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:55   month service so it's it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   substantial price increase it as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01   the justification for this service being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:05   something that they justify it by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06   oh now you can like share your snippets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   with co-workers or family or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   else and this is it's like they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   away that the problem or the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   solution they had for syncing for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   own personal stuff between your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   computers which was thinking via Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   or you know BitTorrent sync or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   other options they had that you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   pretty much any way you want to but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   think a lot people to dropbox thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:26   they took that away and now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29   saying now you have to pay us a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   than you're paying before but you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   get these benefits and the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   those benefits were things that most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:36   their customers at least we're hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   from I don't know the supplies their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39   customer base but the customers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   hearing from don't really want those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   benefits don't really care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44   benefits and they're not going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45   those benefits so the reason everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   mad is because not only have they change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   the model in a way that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   don't like a lot of people just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   like subscription pricing and again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   totally get why people don't like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   don't like it either but I also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01   like software that goes out of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   or that can't afford to keep updated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   anything else like so it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   I recognize this the way that software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   developers really need to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   model that provides recurring revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   over time for users who are using all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:16   whether you do that via occasional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   upgrade upgrade pricing or whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   do it via a monthly subscription or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   other scheme where they do that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   somehow you need to eat have some way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:28   make money from people over time not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   just once up front I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   need to be deep in the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   community like what you know the mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   you know certainly marcos coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   and all of us because we know developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   and we talk to developers like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   that perspective but I think for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   particular change I think you could take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   just anyone from business school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   throw them at this and even understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   what software is I think it it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:52   like so many other business decision so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   from my perspective what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   and explains a lot of the anger the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   marker just you know talking about from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00   the the you know the customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   perspective at the very least is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   have a they have a customer base now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06   use the product if you were to serve as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   customer insight how much value do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   get out of using text expander a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:14   them would say you know I maybe I get 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   dollars worth of value added over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   lifetime that i've been using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   some would say maybe I you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   like asking how much would you pay if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   say we take Texas been away from you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   to get it back you have to pay some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27   money obviously if someone accuses at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   answer support email for example or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   does a lot of repetitive emailing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   uses very sophisticated features where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:36   you fill in the blanks everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37   that they're going to say all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   this is the main tool i use to make my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   living like it is an essential part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   my workflow of texas-pan was gone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   don't know what I would do with myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:46   it is incredibly valuable for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   fact that i paid forty five dollars for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   last year's like the steal of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   century like this is literally how I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   all my income and then the dream of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:56   business school major is like can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   charge that guy like three thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   dollars and then charged at the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   is only going to use it twice a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:04   like 5 bucks like can I charge every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   customer in the maximum amount they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   willing to pay for this software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   yeah maybe and the answer is you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11   do that because we don't know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   worth or whatever but what you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   and what it seems like to spend smiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   trying to do with this one is say we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   got all these customers for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   them they're getting like $45 for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   value or even less out of the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   but there are some users who get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29   tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:29   Amanda values texture is very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   if you do the type of things tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   suspenders made to do is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   best-in-class like very sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   features you know like it makes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   know love very polished workflow amateur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   products tables you know like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:44   this is a it's not just like my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   text expander type thing this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:47   substantial product for the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   do this all the time and you say i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:54   rather just sell to those people for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   much higher price in a way that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   continue to sell to those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   essentially forever as long as those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   people exist because they're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   for their job and we're going to provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   them with this tool to do their job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   the same kind of like photoshop have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   arrangement like your graphic designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   you use Photoshop to make your living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   I and we will give you the tools to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   your living and so you will subscribe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:17   photoshop because it's a bargain to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   to pay you whatever it is a hundred two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   hundred bucks a year to make thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   upon thousands of dollars is a graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24   designer every year if we took away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   photoshop it would be seriously impair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   your productivity is you have to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   the program and so on so forth so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   like Texas matter is saying thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   all the participation casual Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   manner users but we would much rather I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:38   he sell to the heaviest TextExpander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:42   users at a price that they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   justifiable and that we feel like is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   most sustainable the most profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   like whatever you know we're we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   make it up and lack of volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   essentially is the opposite of we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   going to make it up in volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   I just want the good customers the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   who the power user customers and so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   people are mad is Texas matter basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   saying to them not really basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   saying were not that interested in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:07   business anymore as Texas matter was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   only worth $45 you want to use or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   years that's not the kind of customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:14   that we want to serve maybe it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   they feel like they can't serve it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17   be you know like I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18   what the motivation for it is but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   if they were doing great they could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   we're refocusing our business on the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   TextExpander market right and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   who wasn't a pro tech centers like but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   like TextExpander like I don't use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   much but i really like it and now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   telling me i've been priced out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   market like because you want those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   customers and that can definitely make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   people mad but what I keep thinking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   the those people getting mad does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   affect TextExpander at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   like you know this that's the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   you try a business model you see are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   there enough people who are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   pay 50 60 bucks a year for Texas pander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   to make up for all the people you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   losing who wanted to pay you know $45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   once and use it for three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   that's the experiment they're running i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   think it is a perfectly valid experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   to have but a necessary side effect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   the sort of the disenfranchised become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   angry about the fact that previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   they had access to this very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10   utility that maybe they only use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   case when you're using a fraction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13   power of and now they you know they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:17   just use the old version until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   eventually stops working and they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:20   know that they've been cut out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   market and they have to look elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:23   it so they could be annoyed by it but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   can feel like i can get MIT and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   particularly mad about it just because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   think it is a it's a reasonable strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   for trying to make your business both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:37   more profitable which you know flavors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   all they just want more money yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   that's how business works i can get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   profitable and more sustainable because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   if you get if you ever hit that critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   mass like apparently adobe has many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:47   other companies are trying two of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   users use my tool to make their living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   they're willing to pay this much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   single year and that amount of the pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   every single year with the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   them there are is enough to sustain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   development you can do that essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   indefinitely like as long as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   your competitor doesn't come and steal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   your thing or your practice and become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   moot because everyone uses mind control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   you know so many other things can affect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   you but at the very least you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09   you've got the basic inner workings of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   sustainable business model there which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   is a refreshing change after the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   boom-bust you know viral hit a throwaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:20   application you know the things that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   app stores have brought on where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   like I gotta make a new app every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   and it's got to be a big hit and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   isn't going out of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   it's so much more comfortable to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   to have loyal customers who pay for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   product and they're paying for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:32   product every year pays for development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   you just do that you know if that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   works out for them if they end up making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   more money from this that's fine I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   think there's a couple angles to this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   reconsider the first of all and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   you didn't say this but for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   thinking this you can't just say oh they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   just want to make more money it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   that they were declining revenue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   they're trying to sustain this business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   or to keep this product going all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   that is making more money that is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   more money more money than they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57   previously making the previous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   was not enough to keep them in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   like they need to pay the bills and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:01   the lights on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   right but like you can look at it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   computer green angle if like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   doing fine before I know that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   to juice it even higher but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   possible that it was going down before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   never trying to just like bring it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   up to where it was right so and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   read between the lines and some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   statements they've made it sounds kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18   of like it wasn't making enough money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   before for them to justify working on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   but do you draw a distinction between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:23   those two cases they just outlined as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   previously we were sustainable but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   felt like we can make more money with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   this model and previously we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   unsustainable so we have to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   to avoid going out of business like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   it do you think those those are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   any different like is there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   distinction that you make as a customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39   certainly is a distinction you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   imagine making just as kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   human being where if they are it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   like they're going to go into business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   you feel bad for you have empathy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   like I like those guys i like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   product I don't want to see them go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:50   of business both for selfish reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   like you said because I'm user of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   product and I don't you know I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   continue to be developed right and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   because you feel bad like Oh they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   been doing a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1918">TS</a>]

00:31:59   their job is to write programs i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   they're good at their job and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   like to see them succeed because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   know just basic human empathy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   therefore you're more willing to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:10   you know allow for changes in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   pricing model to sort of help them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:14   versus they had a sustainable business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   and they just want more money and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   suddenly that that is its villainous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   do that like that that you should never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   that as soon as you have enough to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   your bills and not go hungry and pay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   food and shelter you should never want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   more because wanting anything more is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   entirely like is essentially evil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   that's that's agreed and I don't see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   hard line between those things i know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   lot of people do but it's like where do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   you draw that line when it was enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   money like i have enough to have payroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:41   and enough to pay my mortgage but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:45   enough to to save for retirement send my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   kids to college is that ok asked to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   more money then like I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   that if you start breaking that down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   starts to be nonsensical so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   personally going to give wide latitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   to making more figuring out ways to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   more money with your labor if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   good at writing software and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   software product you have made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   polished over the years is text expander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   and you find a way to make more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   money from that product I don't attach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   any moral judgment to that at all even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   if it means that a whole bunch of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   previous customers are no longer in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   customer base for future versions but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   know a lot of people do it and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21   think a lot of that like what you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   highlight Margo explains a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   anger that people really do draw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   line of like you were making enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   money to not do not live in the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   already and now you want more forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   your evil 02 a lot believe me I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   from them a lot of people thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   about that line and I'm not one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   but that you know that I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   could be something to consider here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   it you know if you're getting angry at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   smile for really dramatically raising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   the price of this app in a way to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   might not like you know it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   because they had to but also you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:56   look at the competitive landscape here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   there are lots of similar utilities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   do the same basic job and just differ in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   like the features they offer on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   that you know so there's there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   alternative to this and honestly today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   following a very good day for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   however you feel about this with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   know whether your customer or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   looking at it from smiles perspective I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   i think this was a mistake for them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:20   time will tell i was sat on the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22   time will tell but they have basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   discarded a big part of their existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27   customer base in an effort to either get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   more money from the parts left and/or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   move into a more business-oriented one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   where there there will be allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   businesses who use like synced snippets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   and everything from Texas matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42   that might be a big business i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   know i don't I wouldn't have guessed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   would be a big business but I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   all the time so that might work out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   them if it does that's fine but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:53   think this is gonna go well because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   I see mostly happening here is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   you could you can make a move like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00   when you are in a position of strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   you know when when you're like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   game in town and people depend on you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   get their work done and for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   people that will be true but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   think for enough people because for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   big part of the customers who are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   faced with a big price hike and removal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   of features they used vs no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   choices they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:21   have lots of other choices there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   these alternatives a software things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   that do this for substantially less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28   money now you know be before they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   much more competitive now like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   in a high competition environment so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   think I mean one way to do this or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   know one way to resolve this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   if they wanted to make more money or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   need to make more money from this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   can either cut the costs that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   putting into it or you can charge more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   both of those are going to affect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   users negatively in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   the question is you know which one can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   you get away with better and I I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:56   sure they chose correctly but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   know how many choices they had AI don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   know anything with the business and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   natural consequence of this if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   keep playing it out is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   it's like someone gets the idea we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   be enterprise software we could charge a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   minimum five fingers for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08   installation of our things like what why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   not sell TextExpander into you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   sort of large email based support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:16   networks of like where if you if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19   you're a very large company you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20   have to hire like literally hundreds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   hundreds of people to answer your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   support emails and everything you'd want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   to give them tools to do their job well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   and sort of standardized and basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   snippets and templates and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:30   forth you can imagine i'm sure there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   really terrible enterprise over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   already does that and text expander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   perhaps these that market and say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   would rather sell 5 million dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   installations then yeah you know million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   five-dollar apps right like that we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   to actually become enterprise offerings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   are as we discussed in many past shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   enterprise software can be tempting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51   can be lucrative and you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   protected from competition by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56   that it's a pain in the butt to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57   enterprise offering at the higher sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   people is a high barrier to entry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   you have relationships and make the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   golf courses around the hell goes on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   enterprise software is absolutely poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   to the quality of your product and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   makes you vulnerable to anyone making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:10   anything worth a damn because eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:11   you know the enterprise software the my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   definition for many years ago was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   when the person who buys your software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   is not the person who uses it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   is a totally misaligned incentives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   it leads to software that is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:24   attractive to buy but terrible to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   like it's my big loop stays in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   like you really you really want to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   you are vulnerable to someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   actually makes a product that the users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   like because eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:35   even enterprise you start to result in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:36   bring their iphones to work or bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   their max to work or bring whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39   product they think is not a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   crap and use that instead so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   that I'm saying sex offender something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   terrible you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   oracle or is a p-type company but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   is if you just keep playing that out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   say instead of mass-market low price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   let's do you know much smaller market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   much higher price and it could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   you said Marcus if the crowded market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   for text expander type products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   how does tex expanded differentiate what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   do they have the beloved ones don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   maybe what they have is we have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   sophisticated feature set we want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   the pro TextExpander product we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   to leave the consumer market to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11   competitors and let them fight it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   for you know thousands and thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   people want to pay you know 5 10 15 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   30 40 bucks and we want to move up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   market and just keep the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   high-end the people who are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   pay more for a better fit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   sophisticated product because part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26   how to do the job I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   handicap neither like you said marker we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   need to run with notes like the intimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   details of the text expander market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   landscape or whatever I have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   feeling that this doesn't seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   Power Move to me this seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   something they would do because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   were having trouble sustaining i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   agree that the alternatives you later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45   they're like maybe just lower your costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   maybe they had hired too many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   make you know I have no idea how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   their their staffing is there but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   one way to go but the other way is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   you know because I make it up and lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   of volume can we make more money by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   selling to fewer people for a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00   price and that seems again with total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:04   vacuum of knowledge to me if I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   make a bet i would say that that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   higher chance of failing and not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   it's really really hard to do that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   mean it's it's hard to do in either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   direction to say hey if we if we cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   price in half we get more than double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16   the customers especially in the appstore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   market the way it is that has worked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   many people more often than hey if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   double our price or triple our price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   can we get more than half for his third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   as many people i don't know but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   business like I don't I again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   understand what people get angry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   it but like that's how it works and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   decide a price and they say we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   offering you the service priceline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   customers decide whether it's worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41   for them it is not worth it they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:42   buy it and that is signal the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   that you need to change something and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   it is you know and maybe the signal they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   were getting with the $45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   one-time purchase product was people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   will buy it but they don't like upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52   and we can't pay to maintain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   software so i think we're just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   will come to revisit this in a year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   see how it worked out for them but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00   think going on market is a viable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   strategy I just feel like they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   have to go even farther on market than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   this and i agree with every Marco said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   about it's kind of like the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   things we talked about with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:10   overcast like perception-wise that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:15   being cut out of the market you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   a way it makes you feel bad like I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:21   know I like the previous deal i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   getting and now they've altered the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   and case you can finish that reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   for Murphy remembers it and they're sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   about it and they also think there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:34   reason for it but i don't think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   looking at it from the perspective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36   texas-pan why should they are just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   customer but from the perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39   protect expands like maybe maybe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   expand doesn't want you as a customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42   anymore it's like what do you mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   don't want me to bring such a loyal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:45   customer i love the product why wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   they want me anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   why can't why can't they just continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49   to make the product that i've been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   it since withdraw can just keep taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   me forever and the answer is because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   don't want to pay for it again i do want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   a paper again i'll pay you forty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58   dollars right now would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   suddenly you're ready to pay $45 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   came up with universal TextExpander you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02   bought six months ago you'd be excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   to play $45 for a new version i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   know if you anyway even if you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   maybe there's not enough other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   like you and so they have to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:11   with something different it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   it's not personal just business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   I made passing reference earlier but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   think it is important to reiterate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   no one password change well maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   change their model but augmented their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   model by this one password four teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   and then one password for families and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   the thing that that made me cool with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:32   one password four teams one password for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   families was it didn't change the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   things were so it was not a change as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   like I said a second ago was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   augmentation or in addition if 1password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:45   hypothetically had said you know what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   you want to sync between your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:49   devices leave aside other people leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   aside the team aspects of the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   aspect if they had said that hey if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   want to sync your passwords between your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   devices guess what you have to sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   for five dollars a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   uh I would be fairly upset because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:04   would feel like I got hoodwinked I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   feel like it was a bait-and-switch and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   freaking love 1password i consider it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   like you're I think it was you John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   describing earlier name is Marco but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   is essential for me to get my my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   done not even my work but my life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   loved one password i would probably pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   five dollars a month for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   hypothetical sink only service but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:27   would be pretty frustrated with it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   would perhaps go from saying i freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   love 1password to yeah I like 1password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   i use it as it turns out because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:38   they didn't take away what i already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   and additionally they they added this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   new family feature that's five dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46   per I think her family per month and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   families to find us like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50   fiber so people forget exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   specifics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   I've signed up one password for family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   and that was actually the impetus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57   needed a to continue get Aaron using one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:01   password as well which we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   actually done yet but it's on her to-do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   list for the weekend is to get Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   finally using one password and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:09   to me is the right way to handle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   but just like you guys said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12   making I'm making all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   proclamations in a vacuum and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14   know what with smiles dealing with I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   don't know what they're up against but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17   taking away what's already there in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   in that they're saying that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   going to support dropbox and other sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   methods man that it's hard not to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26   burned by that and even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   sympathetic to them it's hard not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31   feel burned but you wonder with it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   like intentional like will see in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34   coming days if they change course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   because it could have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:36   1password it was essentially expanded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   their market like I said we have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   these Yammer's their product we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   some of these customers would be willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   to pay more because it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   important to them so if we give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   this one extra feature this family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   singing or whatever we're gonna leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:51   all the existing customers with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   product they have it's the same product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   it's not you know we're not excluding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:55   them we just want to expand the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   with this new little bump in our little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   you know the blob that is the market put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   another little bump that's and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   people are willing to pay five bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:03   month everyone else keeps what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:05   but we can we can extract more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   from our customers for certain subset of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   the customers by giving them a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10   bit more and charging them a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   more it totally see if that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   texture was trying to do doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   like you did it well because what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   did instead was took the blob that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   their market sliced off most of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:22   then the remaining parts is the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   who are willing to pay fifty dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   year right if that's not what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   intended then you'll see scrambling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:30   week now all we've changed our mind in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:31   fact you can use text expander sync with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   sex offender sex with dropbox thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   or you can use text expander six with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   syncing for the old price or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   like will see like I'm basing my you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   know looking at what this move as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   this is intentional because we all see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:45   the effects that it's happening i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   they see the effects that is having if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   that is an intentional i think they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   backpedal and say we need to what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   really meant to do was actually just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   more money from the people who use it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:56   lot but not lose all those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   customers because we totally need them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   so we'll see if they change their mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   based on you know the first week or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   of you know sales and returning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   complaints about it but I think both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   those strategies are viable like one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   not made one of them makes Casey said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   mean you know obviously if you're in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   market that gets cut off by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:13   strategy can be you know not good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   you but in the end it doesn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   from the company's perspective it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   doesn't matter except for perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   long-term brand loyalty decisions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:22   again if you're going towards the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   end or enterprise the enterprise people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25   may love you even more if you add all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   the super power user features like hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   yeah i'll pay fifty dollars a year oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:30   you know this is how I make my living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   sure you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   sign me up and especially if they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   realized after year that this means new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   versions come out regularly bugs get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   you know better whatever but with as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:43   with all things you can't assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   omniscient some on the part of either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   party here so it's it's it's possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   that they just didn't anticipate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   backlash and I guess we'll find out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   the next week shows or the week after we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2753">TS</a>]

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00:46:06   door bells are pretty cool gadgets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2766">TS</a>]

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00:46:09   convenience of course you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   you can see who's at your door you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   respond and what's really cool is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   there's advanced motion detection here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   this alerts you whether or not somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   actually rings the doorbell or not if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   they're if there's just like a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   who walks up to your door ring will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   alert you about that too it's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   ID for your house like no matter whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   some reasonable or not they alert you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:29   regardless of whether your home or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   because it uses your phone in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   to your actual doorbell like ringer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   so if you're not home you still get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   notified and you can respond through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   two-way audio through the ring doorbell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   so you can pretend like you're home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   the advantages here and only your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   convenience but also safety for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   home in your possessions because ring is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   found over ninety-five percent of home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   break-ins and burglaries happened during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   the day and brothers usually start by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2815">TS</a>]

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00:46:58   somebody's home and of course if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   home you'd generally move on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   so with the ring video doorbell it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   actually be a security benefits not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   showing you when people walk up to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   door and having a record of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   also it can help to her people first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   all they know they're being watched once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:13   you respond and they'll think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   home and so they'll move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   so in addition to all the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   convenience features of having a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   doorbell it's pretty great for home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   security as well you missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   essential feature of this we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   home security and you know if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   in the house the key one is for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30   ultra lazy you can hit the door without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   getting up with your catch you can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   away so listeners you can you know tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   the delivery guy just put it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:37   doorstep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   you know you could like you can see who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   it is and decide to pretend you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   at home all while you just sit in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   living room watching TV i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   that's what you took away from this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   like yes is really is in a blur i do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   know how to get up from your couch you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52   can just pick up your phone and go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   I'm not answering that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:55   no sorry I'm not interested in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   you're selling you know they're only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   robbing the civic it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02   ya know so check it out today it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   work with your existing wiring for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   doorbell or they also have a model that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   uses a battery so you don't need to wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   it to ring dot com / ATP this is widely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:13   recognized as a great gadget by time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   magazine USA Today to name a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   listeners get a free expedited shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2897">TS</a>]

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00:48:24   check out today with the ring video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   doorbell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   you're always home go to bring calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   ATP now thanks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   this this actually segues into our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34   next our next topic slightly unbeknownst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   to Marco although he's probably the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   who wrote it there because i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   is a good time to bring this up with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   having my ipod stolen out of my car by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45   the way speaking a lot of having sold my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46   car when they got to having you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   were talking about your your various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   ways of trying to play folder show love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   mp3 is like it's 1994 and you're in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54   why do neither one of you do what I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:58   been doing which is take one of the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   old iOS devices that is no longer useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   for anything and connect it through USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   to your car and just leave it in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   permanently aside from the fact you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   afraid it's going to storm out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:10   car setting that aside if you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   you will get all the things you talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   about like it you know real interface to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   playing things hopefully reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   album art not worried about it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   doing things alphabetical if you park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   your car close enough to get Wi-Fi from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   your house and your thing has you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   itunes in the cloud things think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   won't even have to bring the thing back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   into put your music on your new musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   just think to it you know silently when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   you drive your car home and just let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   sit there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   that seems like it would solve all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   problems assuming you had a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   store the connected ipod and all that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   is that not something you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   interested now definitely i don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   another thing to manage i would either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:48   use the stuff that's built into the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51   like i was describing earlier because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   actually don't have a problem with it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   if it's not already in my car then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   would just use bluetooth on my phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   what are you managing those likes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:00   literally my thing is just it's plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   in in in a closed compartment and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   never even see it and like I said now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   that that I park within Wi-Fi range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   my house I it gets my new music on if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   buy a new song that song is on my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   like the next time I Drive it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   there is nothing to manage you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   need to recharge it because it charges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   when you drive your car get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   features that you would expect like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:21   my on-screen display showing the artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   album the whole thing it even shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   know unicode characters and the title is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   correctly like everything just works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   this is a honda accord i'm assuming all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   your fancy BMWs intestines have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:32   the only downside is you got to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   iOS device which is way larger than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   little tiny thumb drive that mark eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   so it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   Tesla actually does not support ipod USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   interfaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:43   Oh like the only support either USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   folders like USB file browser or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   Bluetooth the preemptively spotting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   Apple car gonna compete with us APPL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:54   rumored to be could possibly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   future competing with us no USB support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   for ipods I mean it also could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   possible that like you know either a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   they haven't gotten to it yet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   they're a little bit new at or be they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   just probably think like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:06   future is Bluetooth anyway for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   for that kind of role for most people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   it'sit's kind of it probably isn't worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   the trouble to build that into a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   that like you started the media system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   platform only a few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   yeah I mean I couldn't you could do also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   the same thing like my ipod that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   plugged into the USB interface i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   leave it plugged into USB just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   charging purposes and then had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   connect your bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   yeah like anyway anyway that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   that derail the the the topics related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   to the ring doorbell is recording the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   show notes here who presumably written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   by Marco Marco recent experiments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   home automation surveillance and general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41   madness i'm adding that last part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   yeah this was my grab bag of topics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   we were not if we're at a time or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   topics today we wanted something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   and you moved it out what you didn't run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   out i actually I shuffle shuffle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   upwards because i see i see your tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   about like I doesn't can anyone tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   how to find a replacement for 3-way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59   light switches that will respond to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   voice commands to my amazon echo and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   sounds like you're really you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   going off the deep end as as is your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   so i actually don't wanna hear about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   ok so let me let me preface by saying i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   think i said this last week that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   know earlier in in I forget what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:16   but there was our Thanksgiving episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   or whether it was after the new year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   sometime we were in a positive mood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:23   we were expressing what we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:24   do in the future this year whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   one of the things I said was I because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:30   had been having trouble getting excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   about a lot of stuff coming out of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34   recently I decided that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   wanted to start exploring more outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:40   of the apple ecosystem you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:41   other stuff other platforms other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   exciting things happening technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   that aren't from apple and so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   test obviously was it was contributing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   to that quite a bit but also i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   recently said you know what let me let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   me explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:56   past a serie and everyone saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   Amazon echo is really good so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   what the heck I'll try you are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   friends have fun for a while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:04   whatever whatever we're over there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   always think like you know that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   kind of really awesome i do you talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   it and plays good music and agency and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   like the voice activation was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:14   good and fast and always worked and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:18   think that's kind of incredible like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   being because i'm not gonna try meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   nothing about Apple but she'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   accustomed to serie a for Apple in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:27   Amazon echo by comparison is extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30   fast to recognize what you're saying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   can recognize it at a seemingly much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   higher success rate from for me at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   an enemy in the environment I've seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   and even in in conditions that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   think would be hostile like while it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   already loudly playing music in a loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   room and you are 12 feet away it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   still recognize you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49   most of the time so that it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   surprisingly good if you're if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   only ever used Syria as like your voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:57   control baseline it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   surprisingly good i would say in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   ways substantially better probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   every way but in the ways that i use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   for it is substantially better anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   we got an echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   I decided you know what else can this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   thing do and it turns out when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   not in you know similar to what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   covered with USB sticks when you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   in the apple ecosystem nothing cost any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   money you can get a ridiculous number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:23   like smart objects hey things things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:26   with ports or Wi-Fi in them for almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   nothing so for instance one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   things because got was amazon dash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   buttons look at its this it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   ridiculous for five dollars which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:37   becomes a five-dollar credit once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   use it so for basically free you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   little button the size of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   keychain with a sticky back and it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:45   comes assigned to a certain brands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   products things like Charmaine for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:50   your toilet paper or bounty paper towels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:53   or you know razor blades or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   it's there just a button there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   screen just a single button you stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   this wherever you stories household [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:00   objects and when you are running low you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   hit the button it automatically orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   more of that thing whatever you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   assigned to order from that brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   from amazon and it comes in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   days so I have 14 paper towels and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:15   a4 paper we don't let me interrupt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   right there a genuine genuine question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   yes if they're like eighty four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   different flavors of Charmin so to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   do you like specify what one it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:27   you want yes and you can you can go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   the site and you can get with this dash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   button there's a little green thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   looks like a banner ad and so you missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   the first few times but it's not a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   there is little agreement right below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   the item description nice dash button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:40   and it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   view what this button can order and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   can click on and I'll show you before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   even buy you can see like make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   it can order the things you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   version that you use and then you set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   and when you set it up its kind of free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   so it's it's a little button thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   no screen and with some kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   long-lasting battery and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   permanent installous I think battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   it's a Wi-Fi device so it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   pretty hefty like lithium something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   other battery in there anyway how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   prepare the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:09   normally these things that you know many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   of these smart objects they will create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   their own little ad hoc Wi-Fi network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   and so you launch the app on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15   you join your phone to the stupid things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   Wi-Fi network and then it auto config [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20   with the app and tell you know the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   tells it your real Wi-Fi networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   password and then you said you click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   back over and sucks huge you know clunky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   process that I hope Apple gives some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:30   kind of method of improving with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:31   you know multi-mode Wi-Fi something i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:35   pretty sure things that exist anyway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   know those kind of a temporary ad-hoc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   Wi-Fi networks don't take over your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   Wi-Fi whatever they're called that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   you know camera thanks used to anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   please Apple add those things anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   that the way the the Amazon dash buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   work his you you place the button next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:54   to your phone and the phone like emits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   like static pulses out of the speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   via audio and the dash button has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   little microphone it and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   communicates by the static pulses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   Wi-Fi information to the dash button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   Angela right after a few seconds equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   a little weird seconds like alright done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   just so cool it and all this was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   five dollars i know this is all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   shameless consumerism to honor the God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18   of amazon and make you buy even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   things from amazon but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   that is still remarkable from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:23   technology perspective that works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   costs nothing like that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   incredible i want I really looked into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   recently and I think this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   somebody has like reverse-engineered how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   all of this works and there's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   a node module called no dash button that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:43   you can use to have a dash button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   instead of calling phoning home to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   amazon it it just tells a node server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   running on a local network the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   has been pressed and so what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   really looking into but I couldn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   make it work each just the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3479">TS</a>]

00:57:59   I really wanted to buy a dash button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:03   then stick it on like the bedside table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   and then have that call down to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:09   internet-connected garage door opener my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   Chamberlain Mike you and if the garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   doors open close it so that my bedtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17   routine would just be to smack this dash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   button that has nothing to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   amazon anymore and if the garage doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   open it will automatically close I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   never get it to work but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   really cool and fascinating that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   took this five-dollar device and are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   like hacking it such that it can be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   for something entirely different and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   just think that's fascinating super cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   and is for reasons like this that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   really want to start figuring out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   the hell raspberry PI's work and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   that's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:43   yeah my question about these buttons is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   like the reason i would donate can with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48   them was like is this like a joke is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:49   like an april fools joke you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   they cannot like last year or the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   before whatever just seemed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   ridiculous that you're gonna have talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   about a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   Alton Brown angering unit ask her you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:59   can't have a big shiny red button in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   your house and all this other paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   towels my fear and wide never want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   have the thing and it's like I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06   same type person who was always afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07   to enable 1-click ordering is I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   that I and everyone else in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   would forget when we get that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:14   who knows all we need paper towels and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   will click the button but i have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   if someone who came into the same room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   and came to the same conclusion an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:20   ago and now we have two orders of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   towels coming know someone else did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   know it turns out they thought of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25   once you want somebody hits it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   doesn't except in order for another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   until that one has been delivered right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   that's pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:33   everything I was thinking like it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:34   while rate-limiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:35   the bouncing and here's here's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   secret thing like if it doesn't order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:40   until it's delivered but you have small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41   children your house you figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   these buttons work they wait for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44   package to be delivered and they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   around the house impressive real button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   like just you know because essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48   is applying it is allowing anyone with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   physical access to your home to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54   yeah but it's not like ordering an ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:55   like it's you know what happens pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   cheap it's a bad example and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   wait for the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   wait for the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   you got the iphone button just let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   just put it we'll put in in your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   and groupers houses the keynotes over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   you slam your fist on the button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06   then there's one that's the new method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:10   rolling as you go visit somebody doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   like when they're when they're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   know in the other room you go pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   all the buttons to order all the paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16   towels and so this is these dash buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   these are entirely independent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19   echo other than the fact they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20   made by amazon hook up your amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   account right yeah I was just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   decide that you know I'm now like giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   amazon the benefit of the doubt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   trying some of the stuff that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   doing that's all crazy and after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   fire phone and after some of the really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   crappy fire tablets it's easy to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   off amazon's hardware efforts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   they're getting better and they're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   of getting remarkably better at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   things and I I think writing them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   completely is not wise because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:49   they are going to keep making a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:50   duds I'm sure but there but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   everything they make it up and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:53   them exactly pretty cool anyway so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:57   so I guess I have some some dunkin Wemo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   switch to outlets that amusing to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03   some lamps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   yeah can you explain that to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:05   I understood that you were trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   make it so you could say words into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:08   air and cause lights to go on yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   don't know anything that connects those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   things other than the Amazon echo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   listening to you and then presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:15   what happens after that the amazon i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   hears you and what does it do what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   it communicate with is this like an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   standard layout amazon products don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   understand this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:23   honestly I don't know that much about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   I I haven't looked that much into it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   know you go and i was on site that tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28   you like here's the all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   work with the echo some of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   require like a smart devices hub some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   them don't have been only getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   ones that don't so far because why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   about a couple of mos switched outlets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   because I there the better way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   lighting is if you can swing it to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45   Wi-Fi light bulbs like life xor philips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   hue that kind of thing I haven't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   any of those yet because the lifx bulbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   are too large to fit into the lamps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:54   question and the philips hue bulbs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58   not bright enough and i like nice bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   bulbs and even leds always to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   ones that are like 200 watt equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:03   rather than the most the more common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   ones are more like a 60 watt equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06   so they're just not right now anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   the way i do this is I keep my fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   bulbs and I guess which the outlets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   philanthropist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:13   two again I don't know any other system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   works but the way belkin's Wemo thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   works is all just local Wi-Fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   there's probably a way to come to a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   service I don't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   there is but right now doing a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   Wi-Fi only so you use their apt to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:28   configure the things using the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:29   like join the Wi-Fi network thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   then once configured the echo to talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   it directly so you know the echo just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   had support for whatever local protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   that uses over the local Wi-Fi network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   and then you you go to the alexa up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   configure the echo it shows all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   compatible devices and you can create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   groups so you can see like to turn off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   all lamps and it will and it will end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:50   just says okay and turn them all off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   that's it sorry for anybody whose life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   is turned off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54   it's really cool like it get it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   really cool about it is that it's fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:59   enough and it works enough of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   that it's actually comedian so part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   my nightly routine use your cell your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:05   garage like trying to like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06   eliminate steps for nightly routine part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09   of my daily routine is you know we which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   are watching TV and I whatever so I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   around locking all the doors turning off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   all the lights taking the taking hops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18   out we know one last time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:19   backyard and more lights go on and off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20   going off and coming Lok Lak any step i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:23   can remove from that process will save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25   me like 15 seconds a day and yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:28   stupid to be talking about 15 seconds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   day and you know this is obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31   position of like first-world privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   here but that's convenient and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   everything is so cheap it its it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:38   actually kind of compelling I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   effectively cut 30 seconds out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   nightly routine just by automated my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   switches and being able to tell the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   turn everything off wants the Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   echo tell my children eight thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   times to brush to think that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:51   pajamas on because i'm able to stay at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   amazon echo do the bed down routine an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   Amazon echo will say you guys have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59   amazon yet have you brush your teeth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00   every Rush do you have your amazon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   you find them in their room an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   later playing with Lego without their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   pajamas on have you put your pajamas on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:07   and brush teeth that's the service I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   need you could probably get up with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:12   know I have tea tea or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:13   I'm i bet you that there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   like I mean the thing is like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   this is this is why I I really been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   joined the echo and why I I do worry for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   apples presence or lack thereof in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   market in order to make this market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   you know in order to get what makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:28   echo so good is a combination of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:32   what seems to be a pretty awesome solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:35   big data web service behind it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   not something apples good at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39   Apple can do things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   keeping notifications running and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   running when it comes to the kind of web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:46   service that uses big data and AI type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   stuff Apple is not as competitive as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:52   other entrance in the market and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54   seems it maybe that will change over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   time but they're just not there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   they've been not there for so long after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   be after began to matter that it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   seem like they're not capable of it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   at least don't prioritize it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   seems like this is the kind of problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   that other companies Google Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   Amazon just do big data services better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:14   than apple does and what also makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   so powerful is all this integration with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:19   their party stuff and so Apple has home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   kit but home kit is is a much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24   successful program i think then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   what it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   where's the echo doesn't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   like the echo is kind of all-inclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   it'll work with everything that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32   talked briefly about this on unconnected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:35   this weekend relay they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   they were saying that there's some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:38   of like hardware requirement for home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   kit devices and then the belkin kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   balking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   amazon doesn't really care i worked with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:44   everybody and like Siri launch in twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   eleven it is 2016 there is still no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:50   sirree API there is no way for third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:53   parties to integrate with Siri at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   the echo comes out like not that long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:58   ago what like year ago last June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   something's on almost a year ago it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:01   already full of third-party integrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   there's an API for a lot of what it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   do not everything there's still no music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   API looks at which means i can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   overcast for it yet but I'm hoping there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   will be soon so that it has but it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   tons of integration with all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   third-party things anybody can go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   make a speech response API to it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:22   integrates with all this different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:23   hardware from all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   vendors amazon I feel like they're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:28   better position that Apple is to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:32   really take over this kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   because this is so dependent on both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   big data web service and also tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   third-party integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40   yeah apple had the foresight to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:43   to purchase the you know the sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:44   research project company or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   they were like the day that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:47   understood very early on that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:51   like this could add value to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   products and you know my friend when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   they bought them but obviously was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55   before it was actually released publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:56   released to the public with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59   exception of google like they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   if they were in the lead next Google but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   they were at the very least seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:04   neck-and-neck with google in terms of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   recognize this is going to be important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   thing for the future and maybe your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:09   thing is kind of crappy when it launches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:10   series certainly was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   but at least you know at least we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:15   ignoring this market like in fact we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   out ahead of a lot of our competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   but like Marco set like and then what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   happened to be like the mac pro all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:22   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23   well we'll make Siri better and Cirie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   certainly has gotten better but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   no reason Apple couldn't have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   something like Amazon echo years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   years ago because they had like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:33   and google has been expanding google now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   and did you know to make it much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:38   sophisticated and complicated in Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   and we even have like just random apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:41   like this third-party hound application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   that Merlin was raving about a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:44   while ago like like lots of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   companies are you know it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   early days anymore everyone's like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   some kind of intelligent agency you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   talk is basically like speed recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:53   has as kind of cross de vaguely good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   enough barrier and an understanding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   speech and breaking it down into meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   and figure out what you mean not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   like translate into text doing a Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   search or whatever you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   getting more sophisticated and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   takes a little bit more stuff to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:07   together in two ways that allow like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:11   community essentially community of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:12   nerds and hackers to come up with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   uses this things like that was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   and also definitely seems like much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:17   you know nerd you know hacker friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:21   if someone who wants to just toy with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:22   and figure out what kind of cool things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   to do with an animal lecture whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:25   build whatever on you want is a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   open protocol you can reverse-engineer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:28   it like just go down as they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   like that you know their approaches like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   this new stuff and see what sticks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   Apple's just totally absence marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36   use that makes sense because apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37   doesn't make sort of like Tinker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   products for people who just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:40   hack on things and you know I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:41   want to have this product would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:44   it has to be beautiful and elegant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   integrated in blood with the end result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   is they just aren't in the market doll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:49   or know what you know they do home kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   and said we have a strict requirements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:52   because you're your products must meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:54   the stringent standards that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:55   apple and blah blah in the meantime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   amazon just like running off with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   they're gonna wake up one day and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:00   you know we we could have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   substantial chunk of that market and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:05   just we just waited too long for for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   perfection and didn't you know to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   releasing and iterating again that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   the Apple way to do it but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:12   in many other Syria was was like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15   was like series not gonna be perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:16   initially but it's important for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:17   get this out there because we feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   in the future you telling your phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   do something is a feature that we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   to happen they were right about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24   every every cell phone you by now has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   some feature where you can speak to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   and have it do something either but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   while you're driving to tell it to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   a song or if you're just lazy and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   want to go find an icon and tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   something just to run a search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35   whatever they all have that an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   recognize that not saying they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:39   be in the Amazon echo market but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   just saying like vr we also Mapple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   secretly doing things behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:44   i hope they don't stay secret for too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   long either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:46   if BR turns out not to be a bust apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:50   doesn't want to just be sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:51   waiting for their perfect entry in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   market either and I think like the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:54   as much as we've all talked about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   had complaints about it i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:58   important for Apple to do a watch even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01   if the watch they did has problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   rather than saying no we're not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   sure we figure out every aspect of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   makes a watch good like the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08   you're going to figure out is to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09   product right there that's that's in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   can't you can't hold back from it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   how they're making a freaking car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   surely the bacon amazon echo type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18   competitor and I think they could do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   reasonably good job for it if only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   because it would force them like Morgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   was saying force them to work on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:25   back end whereas Cirie has like the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   those presentations like look we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   using these open source you know data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:31   processing backends for Syria and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   all impressed by that we're talking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34   conferences like Siri force them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   that because it wasn't simple enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   use whatever they were using before was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:40   complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   was it make those someone just wrote an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:43   entire room you having a product like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   Siri forces them to get better that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   stuff having a product like Amazon echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   would also force them to get better this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   type of thing as home kit should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   forcing them to as well but if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:54   if they're going into the same situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:57   making you know very onerous demands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   the third parties and the result is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   few third-party products they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   know they're they're not they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   winning that battle so it's kind of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:08   kind of disappointing and with amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   their challenge is always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:11   easy to do the beginning part which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:14   very open and will try to things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15   those people go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:16   how do you develop I've been waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   person I don't know if enough people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:19   have an echo that I'm like I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   interested in that I'd like to try but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22   would like to wait for the echo to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   out the the one that is nicer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   smaller and faster and more reliable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:27   has more features i know they came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   with a little tiny one that doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:30   the speakers and stuff like that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:31   want like the full-fledged echo version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   2 if Amazon doesn't make an echo version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   2 for 3 years I will have you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39   will be again pulling a mac pro it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:40   like you were right there what why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42   you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:43   I don't think they will I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   will continue to iterate just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:46   how many freaking candles I found out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47   with there's about to be another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   they're hyping up next week I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   volcanoes to mail you and they're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:52   up next we're gonna we're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   another one that's that's even thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:55   awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56   yeah and we have no idea how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:57   candles they have ever sold because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   never put numbers on their graphs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00   they continue to plug away at that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   fully believe that Amazon will continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   to plug away the echo if only because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   just has a natural synergy of like make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   it easier for people to give us money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   alright thumbs up this is a good product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   for amazon to make especially since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:13   harbor across don't seem that big it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   like it's speaker with Wi-Fi and a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:19   bunch of microphones and a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:20   software don't make that up the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:24   year alone people with a people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   accidentally ordering things by saying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:27   alexa by paper towels or whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30   kids are saying when you're not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:31   room anyway I'm enjoying this thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:34   not perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:35   there's lots of things about it that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   that are not perfect but overall it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39   really cool and I would say if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   the fence if you if you've been tempted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   by the echo if you're on the fence just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   get it just order it now like you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   regret if you if you're already like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:49   taking you might enjoy you probably will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   enjoy it and you should just try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:52   because it really is quite good what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:56   adam said it like so he gets very mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   that she doesn't recognize him because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:01   he doesn't unsee it well enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   yeah basically he asked her to define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   words multiply numbers play music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   convert units of measurement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   cooking so many things you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   setting timers by voice while cooking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15   so useful like that's it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   urbanites with the Apple watch that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:18   it was so slow and somewhat unreliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21   to do that because when that works it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   so useful it doesn't work enough with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   the apple stuff but it works all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   time with the amazon thing its are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   have to push a button like activate Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   if you don't have a Syrian able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   basically have to take your dirty you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   know cooking fingers and touch some iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   device and then have a good loop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   figure out do i talk before the blooper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   does it not matter is not the bloom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:43   then you say set a timer for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   minutes and then you wait and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:46   see and sometimes misunderstands you it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:49   seems to me from all the people i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:50   how that goes that you can basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   just yell into the air with a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   expectation that it's going to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55   and if it doesn't yell it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   you're not waking whatever waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:58   verbal open the echoes plugs in right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   it's not the battery power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4440">TS</a>]

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01:20:44   to totally control hardware vendors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   they're going to comply to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:47   specifications and in the meantime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:48   amazon using the old pc strategy of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:51   working fully open door to help ever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   hell you want and we'll just look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   a couple years later and see what worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   so far is the only thing that has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:59   any measure of success even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01   a very small measure success just among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   nerds are willing to pay a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   eighty bucks to have a wear black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   cylinder of the house that they can ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:08   how to spell words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4868">TS</a>]

01:21:09   Apple has always had this part of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:12   like corporate personality and reflected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14   by originally by Steve and and buy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:17   know a lot of people who are still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   i think and who are still making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   important decisions that they've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:22   had this this these parts of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   personality where sometimes a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:27   too much greed shows and sometimes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:30   little bit too to like control freaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   shows if that makes sense and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:37   often holds these things back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:38   so for instance the thirty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:41   in-app purchase rule on iOS apps one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:45   the reasons why you can't buy amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47   books and the kindle app for I for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:50   is this rule that like apple won't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   amazon selling directly without using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:53   purchase and if using our purchase apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   takes thirty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:56   and that is a very very high commission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4916">TS</a>]

01:22:00   to take on sales that you're kind of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   much of a part of but they do it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:05   works and it's only in town and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   if you want to be this platform which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:08   really matters a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:09   you basically have to play by those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:10   rules or avoid them like Amazon doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:13   just don't sell anything there and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   kind of attitude you know it goes way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:17   beyond that rule you know that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:18   attitude also expensive things like 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   devices the price hike in the ipad cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:24   that you know Apple has some greed there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:28   and is that you know depending on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   you know like our discussion earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:31   about like whether you consider that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:34   know offensive or not or whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   just business but they they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   oftentimes prioritize profitability of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:41   things over you know making everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:44   else happy and that is often good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   business so i can't really fault them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:47   for that but it does hold back certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   kinds of advancements from from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   products or they're going for an ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:52   like sometimes they have a vision in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54   their mind of how it's going to look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:56   third parties will describe that vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57   with the crap that they had where and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   that's the other side of it is like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:00   the controlling part of it where Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:03   very opinionated in a lot of ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:06   and very controlling it like so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:09   instance one of the more recent dust-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:13   around around apples decision making was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:16   in the early days of 9.3 they stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:19   letting the Apple pencil navigate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:21   entire ipad interface so the applicants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   that came out in November whatever with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:25   the ipad pro it could navigate the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:27   interface for you know its first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   months and then in the early betas of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31   nine point whatever 9.3 they removed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   ability and it was from you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   official PR statement was was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:37   BSE the what we've heard from from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:40   people who are better informed of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   matter is that this is actually an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:43   intentional decision because it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   being used the way they thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   should be used they didn't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:48   used to navigate the interface they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:50   wanted to only be used for like artistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:51   purposes or or you know drawing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53   whatever it was being it was being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55   in a way that Apple didn't foresee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:58   didn't think was proper but wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   really hurting anything and apple almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:03   remove that ability and it was only i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:06   think only by a decent amount of public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:10   shaming and now cry over this during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   beta period that reverse their decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:15   they were being a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17   overreaching in their control you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   that their desire for control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:21   I don't think so true though because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:22   there was no obvious reason for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25   get rid of it today but what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26   something's coming in the future that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   that would conflict with this the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:31   pencil is equivalent to your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   approach that Mike and gray love so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:37   you know it it certainly seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   like they should have some sort of happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:40   medium like there should be a switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   forward or something like that but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:45   think it's it's a little bit it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:48   little bit bold us to assume they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   doing it just to be jerks there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   very well could be that they're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:53   to set themselves up for something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55   the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:55   well it might not even you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57   want to say that that they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:58   jerks necessarily it's that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00   being controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:01   you know we see a lot of this with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:02   preview to and whenever there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   whenever there's an app review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   controversy a lot of times it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   apple doesn't want us to do things a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:11   certain way or you know like like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13   like what happened with the disaster of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15   like very projections around today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17   widgets with calculators and draft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:20   everything else we're like p calc it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22   this in interview and it's like no well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24   you can't have buttons there could we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   don't want people to do calculations or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   to do work in today viewers like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   that's kind of weird and maybe there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:33   might have been a technical reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   that but it seemed from what they from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   Apple statements to the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39   developers whoever those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:40   didn't seem like it was a technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   limitations seemed like it was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:43   an ideological thing we know we this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   not right they should be using your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46   for this all this is just to say like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48   there are these these areas in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:51   company that still show these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:54   negative personality traits that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:57   do hold them back in some ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   sometimes it's the right move but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:01   of times it's not sometimes leads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:03   expect to better products but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05   times it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:06   I brought the ipod and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:07   because I feel like they do this so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   and so many areas like they strike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:11   right balance in terms of you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:12   the reason we buy their products is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   there opinionated and we like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:15   opinion if you don't like their opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:16   by different products right but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:17   like they're paying you like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   that you know designed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   you know again especially in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:21   hardware carefully designed for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:24   particular look and feel and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25   features they put in them and just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   know the whole the iPhone itself like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   one is that one is what is the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:31   when do we make a touchscreen that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   feel like it's good enough for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:34   aspects of like the whole you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36   that's how you end up with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:37   like the iphone that you have tastes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   opinions and you are controlling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   it and you slowly open it up but it if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   look at the market of iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44   especially on the hardware side they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   striking such a good balance in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   having the products they want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   selling accessories that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:53   sell but also having this huge ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55   of accessories from other people every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58   kind of case you could possibly imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5218">TS</a>]

01:26:59   including ones that Apple surely thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   are ugly but they're not forbidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   those to be made or forbidding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:06   integration we're not going to let our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:07   iphone be docked into this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:10   docking devices we think it's gross or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:12   we don't want it but we don't want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:14   to be able to plug this thing in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   the USB cable and control this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   things like for the most part within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   constraints of their programs they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   a hands-off type of attitude you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:23   make a weird keyboard case that falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:25   onto your iPad six years before we come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:28   out with a hardware keyboard for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   ipads it's not bluetooth fine we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32   gonna be like oh we don't we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:33   forbid that because we haven't decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:34   whether we're going to do a a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   with thing even styluses now we we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   want you to we don't give you a maid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   you know iOS stamp of approval on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:43   stylist because we don't want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   stylist like four years you had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:46   little fake finger Silas's there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   million of them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:49   Apple's willing to just let that go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:50   I think that was to an important thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:53   because it showed them like especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   if they selling in their stores boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   surprising number of people buy these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:58   super terrible you know stylist things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   that pretend to be fingers maybe there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02   something to this style thing after all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:03   and eventually they can put their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:04   solution which of course didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:05   emulate a finger and was much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   better and they did a really good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:08   but that I feel like that falls out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:11   the having a big open market and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   just certain kinds of products they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15   a blind spot about that with even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:18   can even say Apple TV has that for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:19   many years not having apps on it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   just seems crazy because they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:22   learned how important apps are and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:24   now having the apps and having to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   limited in all sorts of ways because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:27   Apple has an idea of what the TV app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   should be like and they're necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:30   fencing off whole range of possibilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:33   even going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:34   down to you know my own particular pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36   peeves about 24 hurts output or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:37   like that's a whole class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:39   applications that could flourish or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41   on the appletv but because Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:44   narrowly defined you you know you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:45   200 megs you download stuff on demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:47   you can have games but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:48   support the remote just like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:50   just a fenced-in so narrowly they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:52   allowing that ecosystem to expand in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:56   ways that some of their other ecosystems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   have been allowed to expand its and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:01   think it's just it's just not the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:02   balance like I think that's what we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:04   apples always looking for and what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:06   what grapple to do is not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:08   completely open not to become really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:09   close to find the right balance for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:11   product line and it's and the way we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:13   one Apple hasn't found the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:14   balances competitors competitors show us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:17   because they say if Apple's dropping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   ball here then we can do better and show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:22   you something and you look at it after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:24   the back near boy apple had all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:25   pieces that all the technology and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27   just didn't they just didn't do it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29   they were their own worst enemy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:30   see that you have the most for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32   product that Apple does anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:34   is sort of the open web and web services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36   not that Apple is against the open web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   services but it just seems to be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:39   blind spot for them they don't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:41   the inherent power in that an Amazon ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:45   I think it's the is the most recent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47   most glaring example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48   alright thanks 143 sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:51   betterment ring and fresh books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:54   we'll see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:55   now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5395">TS</a>]

01:30:01   mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:02   because it was accidental death was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:06   accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:07   John didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09   any research Marco and Casey would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:13   because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:17   and you can find show know today d p dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:22   and if twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:29   yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:34   co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:41   Syracuse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:51   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:56   so Tesla came out with the new car which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5456">TS</a>]

01:31:03   means your model asses effectively old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   and busted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:06   yep totally absolutely no it isn't big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08   as his car is still better than they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:10   pretty good car in so many ways it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:13   mm so Tesla came out or debuted with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:16   the model 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5476">TS</a>]

01:31:19   I like the emphasis on the master plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:20   and the presentation like oh my so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:22   years ago I had this master plan about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   what we're going to do if you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:25   a master plan maybe that's the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   come up with like a naming scheme for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:29   cars that's simple like someone like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:32   only got three cars can be model 12 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:34   three male B&C you know 468 like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:38   are many possibilities that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40   you draw from whatever name them after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:42   your favorite cities or whatever but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   don't think anyone he drawing of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   master plan would be like roadster s x + [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:51   3 like it in your first outing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:54   that's ball drop anyway but we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56   care about the name right so for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:58   who are not aware this is there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:02   cheaper sedan their kind of mass-market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:05   car i did watch the presentation which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:08   was a link in the show notes a seal on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   it said hey the Roadster was to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:13   get really really really rich people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:16   spend money on something stupid and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18   that would let us bootstrap the S which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:21   would let well-to-do people spend money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:24   on something that was less stupid which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26   in turn will let us do what we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:30   want to do which is the mass market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:32   model 3 and they open pre-orders for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:36   model 3 the day of the announcement but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:39   but i think really really early in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:42   morning in whatever your local time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   and by the time of the announcement they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:47   had over a hundred thousand pre-orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:48   is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:49   a hundred and ten i think yeah something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:52   like that and so the pre-orders you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:53   to put a thousand dollars down but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   refundable so that means a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:58   thousand people had given Tesla a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:01   thousand dollars apiece and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:04   they're up to like a quarter million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:05   from like that and what's interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:08   you know the first half of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09   did it sight unseen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:10   they knew nothing about the model three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:11   other than that it was going to cost me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:12   around 40 grand and it should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:15   around the same range model s give or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:18   take and then they did the the reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:21   which it was clear that Apple employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:26   spend a lot of time practicing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:27   presentations not only those in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   keynote but those are like dub but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   because man Elon Musk was not built for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:34   this sort of presentation and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:35   okay i mean but it could use some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   rehearsal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:38   it seemed like you didn't rehearse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:40   once right but the presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:43   nevertheless was impressive and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:45   model 3 on the whole I like it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5625">TS</a>]

01:33:49   aesthetically it's got some a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:53   of problems on the outside I think John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:54   takes more issue with the outside than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:56   do on the inside i have major issues but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5636">TS</a>]

01:34:00   a 40,000 dollar-plus car ish that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:05   200 miles plus ish of range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:09   that's pretty damn appealing and so been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12   supposedly they're going to ship the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:13   of next year like this is sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15   pretty good i'm definitely interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:19   I wouldn't call this mass marketed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:20   understand the progression like you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22   from a hundred-thousand-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:22   impractical car 270 ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:25   thousand-dollar very practical car to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:28   35,000 dollar still pretty practical car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30   like broken no mass market is 25 k where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:34   you it's not not that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:35   everything I can like they the batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:37   cost a lot of money right so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:38   building a big factor whatever the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:40   might price down like eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:42   would expect that test was still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:43   business 10 years from now that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:45   will have something in the honda civic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:47   category or whatever so they're working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:48   their way down i like the progression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:50   like what they're going as for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   specifics of the product that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54   never really impressed with the Roadster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:55   because it's just the you know what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:58   called a lotus lotus elise yeah yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:01   you gotta do what you gotta do i never i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:03   I you know it's it was a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:05   minimum viable product type thing but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:08   a car was like alright fine whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   PS i was in generally impressed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:12   styling because i think the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:13   shape of the car is good that into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:14   details very right but practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:17   speaking have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:18   both written in Model S's and driven one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:22   it's a good car like we talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:24   more like it's not it's not just a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:25   electric car it's a good car I mean can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   you imagine well it better be for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:28   price you get but they successfully made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:30   a good car which is no small feat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:31   because not a lot of new car companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   have come out and made a good car in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35   lifetimes right and it seemed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:39   enough of the all the components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:41   together that even if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:44   complaint about certain small areas that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46   it's not a big deal i totally expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:48   model 3 to the same thing to be good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50   all the same ways that the S is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:51   because you know that they can use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53   same foundation battery electric motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   wheel suspension steering everything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:59   I see no reason to believe that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:02   aspects of the three won't be just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04   good as the model is the only place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:06   you're saving any money is I've imagined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:07   his cars smaller lighter has less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:09   batteries in it and so that's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:11   and they're made in the biggest factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13   in economies of scale of all the sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:15   of reasons why why does this car costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:17   less than the model s mostly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:18   because they're getting better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:20   building these cars and have the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:21   factory building the batteries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23   there's fewer of them and it's smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:24   and all the stuff but I can imagine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26   instance the interior of the model 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   giving the model s the reason will run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   for his money mostly because the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:31   is not super luxurious to begin with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:34   like that's not where the money is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:35   these cars like the minus all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:36   freaking battery and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38   general materials and assembly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:41   electric motors aren't super expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:42   and the grand scheme of things certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:43   not compared to an internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45   engine where I think the three falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:47   down for me is I feel like it should it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:50   had the opportunity to learn from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:52   s-class and exceeded in all of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:55   areas where it falls down so is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:57   interior going to be better than the s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:58   probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00   design-wise having that big screen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02   the middle doesn't strike me as a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:05   learned a lot from the the model s and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:09   so now we know how to make a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:10   interior other than the fact they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   learned that bigger screens are better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:13   but my biggest complaint about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:15   outside is what they've done with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:16   front end treatment and in some respects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:20   it's obvious what they're going for it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:21   like hey guys we don't have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24   place where air goes into the front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26   our car because there's not a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:27   exploding internal combustion engineer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29   that we have to blow air on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:31   was it overheats we don't have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:32   that so we should not be constrained by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:35   the styling of internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:37   engine cars we have all this freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39   let us now reimagine with a friend of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:42   car can look like because why should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:44   make it look like an internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:45   engine that's a good spirit and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:48   good idea and they should pursue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:49   but I feel like what they did was took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:52   the front of an internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:53   engine car and just erase the grill in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:55   Photoshop it that there's a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:57   the grill it is shaped like a car with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5877">TS</a>]

01:38:00   grill would be was Marcus does the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:01   thing the Model S has a place for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:02   grill and they just put a thing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:04   that is a different color and looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:05   grill like but there's no holes in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07   it's you know because you don't need air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:08   to go into their right that at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:12   like visually from a distance like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:13   that's a car with a grill but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:15   really grill this car clearly has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:18   grill but it has shape wise the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:20   for the grill so I i would encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:21   them to pursue this Avenue of styling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:25   further not like they went too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:29   they didn't go far enough that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:30   didn't sort of reimagine the front end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   of an electric vehicle that does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:33   need to suck air through a big opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:34   of the heart that didn't do it enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:35   and this is not AI think this may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:37   the final design they have they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39   conceivably change it a little trim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41   things to dress it up so friends mess as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:45   far as I'm concerned and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:46   overall shape I get why they made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:48   play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:48   they're touting like the interior space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50   the bedroom or whatever but its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   proportions are just not as nice as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:54   SDS is a bigger car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56   the bigger heart allows it to have nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:57   proportions to look more aggressive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5937">TS</a>]

01:38:59   look less kind of punch back in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:02   dowdy and like a droplet of water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:05   whatever i suspect the three will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:07   better in person than a dozen pictures i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   really hope look better in person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:11   doesn't pictures but if I remark I be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:14   feeling pretty good about my purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:16   because he still has the best-looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:18   largest best-performing and prettiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:21   Tesla and will for seems like a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:24   time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:25   well yeah I mean I I don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   buyers remorse you know if for no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28   reason that this probably won't even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:31   out until my lease is over there saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:33   this will allegedly ship by the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:35   next year so about 18 months from now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:38   would be surprised if it shipped on time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:40   and also there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:44   200,000 pre-orders and they currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:47   can make something like 50,000 cars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:49   year obviously not all those printers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51   will turn into real orders because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:52   a refundable deposit so a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:55   people are going to cancel but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:58   even even if like a quarter of them end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/5998">TS</a>]

01:40:01   up actually going through with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   accepting their cars and buying them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:06   even if there are no production delays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:08   which is unlikely it would still put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:12   helped like three years roughly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:15   before I could even get one if I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:18   wanted one instead of my models and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:19   turns out i probably won't because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:23   like big sedans and I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   additional features the model as I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26   the additional space i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28   additional luxury that it will almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:30   certainly continue to offer over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32   three you know cost-wise that the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:34   3 is is from from the info we have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:36   far none of its final form from the info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6036">TS</a>]

01:40:39   we have so far it is substantially d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:42   content adore you know d option from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:45   base model model s and the cheapest you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47   can get a model s right now if I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49   just when configured it 72 hour battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:52   and you can you turn off all wheel drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:55   you get the cash price down to 70,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:58   and the cash pressure this is allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:00   going to be 35,000 and they've said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02   enough times and been really sure about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:04   enough times that they probably really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:06   can't go back on that PR wise or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:07   least not by much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:08   so in order to cut the cash price of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:11   car in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:12   it's going to have to come with less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14   than what the S comes with at its base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:17   model so they've already said it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:18   be it's gonna have things like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20   going to have supercharging about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:22   built-in by default like you have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24   after for that if you want supercharging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:26   there's a whole bunch of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:28   comes standard on every model s that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:30   about the model 3 probably will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:32   not come with just hit that price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:34   i'm guessing that this is gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:37   major difference between these two cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:39   and and part of the reason they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6099">TS</a>]

01:41:41   make it so much smaller you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44   make it kind of these weird proportions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:46   is to help set it apart i think from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:49   s because you know the essence kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:50   competing in a different bracket here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:52   but overall I think from what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54   shown so far the e we can have crippled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:57   about the dash which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:57   I do but even you on twitter like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6117">TS</a>]

01:42:00   not even the final steering wheel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:02   the final steering wheel is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:03   amazing like a spaceship so that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:05   might take care of the weird issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   not having any displaying from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08   driver but overall I think this looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:11   like a really potentially awesome car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:13   but there's still a lot of question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:15   marks over whether they can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:17   deliver and we know with whether they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19   deliver on time and what you'll actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   get for the money because I I suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23   there's gonna be a lot of things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:26   think you'd probably want that are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   to be optional add-ons at that price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   point real-time follow-up of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:32   whole chat room and my memory says that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:34   actually they said that they will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36   supercharging on all models but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:37   will have the capability to but Ilan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:40   said on Twitter to somebody recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:42   that it might be an additional fee to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:45   activate it just like the old model s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:46   was so they will all have the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:48   is same thing with them with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:50   autopilot they will all have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52   hardware to do it but you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:54   necessarily have that enabled unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:55   pay extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:56   it's in app purchase in from any car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:58   purchase yes it really it's basically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:01   have some faith that the only wild card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:03   i feel like in their ability to deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:05   on this in terms of schedules and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:06   pricing everything is the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08   factory because you know many things can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:10   go wrong there and it is a very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:12   endeavor as they emphasized in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:13   keynote and you're right sorry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:15   everything else about this car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:16   they've already done on the model is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:18   doesn't have any weird Falcon wing doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:21   BS it is essentially a smaller s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:24   everything in it they they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26   substantial experience doing yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28   know how to make cars with doors with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:30   door handles with mirrors with wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:32   suspension-steering of the motors if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:35   they can get the battery manufacturer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:37   the price they wanted working the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:38   they wanted sticking in this car i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:39   totally believe they will hit their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6219">TS</a>]

01:43:41   delivery dates because this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:44   the kind of iteration I would expect I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:46   feel like the X is a weird boondoggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:48   lot with those you know much larger size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:51   and the weird doors that it like its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:54   worst enemy this is the natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:56   evolution downmarket of the s and how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6236">TS</a>]

01:44:00   make achiever I still feel like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:01   they make sure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:02   I've got its gonna have a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:03   battery that's because it's a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:05   car and you can get away with equal or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:08   rain or whatever that start with 215 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:10   range i think 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:11   users it was the rumor but i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:12   announced 215 yes it's official expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:15   to 15 and for reference that the 70 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:17   the model s 70 kilowatt-hour one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:19   specifies 230 and it's also a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:22   bigger heavier car like if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:23   the at the ratings compared between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:25   s and the X the X ratings are lower per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:28   kilowatt-hour because it takes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30   energy to move the larger heavier car so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:32   i'm guessing with the s having 230 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6272">TS</a>]

01:44:36   out of a 72 hour battery and yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:38   could put maybe a 50 or 55 into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:41   model 3 to hit that goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:43   yeah I don't think the other thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:44   the wild-card I don't know about is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:46   much is this going away because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:47   obviously it weigh less than yes but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:50   much less and the only way you get it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:51   weigh a lot less is to use a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:53   smaller battery because those things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:54   at a time or two use lighter materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:56   are they replacing steel aluminum is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:58   there any like magnesium or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00   weirdness going you would imagine it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:01   get to exotic is thirty-five thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:02   dollar car but aluminum at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:04   least could be in the mix to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06   light in the car and obviously the base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:09   model i would just assume i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:10   remember this was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:11   you know one motor in the base model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:12   right that not the motors are again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:14   as expensive as internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:16   engines but if you want to save money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:17   like that's the beauty of electric cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:18   and the sort of the curse is there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:21   much to them there's electric motor like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:23   more or less directly attached to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25   wheels through a fixed gear ratio their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:27   suspension the steering there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:29   pumps and compressors there's a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:31   battery and then there's a living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:32   that you put there to say that right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:35   that's it that's all there is in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37   this inventing I guess bird for blowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:38   air on you like they're so many fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:41   components than the giant mess that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:42   under the hood of internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:44   engine cars we're just like the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:46   villages and you know all around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48   engine in terms of keeping the engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:49   cool and and and keeping the oil flowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:51   through it and things going up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:54   and firing Sparks and wires and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56   just there's just so much extra stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58   there that just isn't in this car which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6358">TS</a>]

01:45:59   means that if you want to make the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:02   for cheaper you can reduce your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6362">TS</a>]

01:46:03   component costs or you can use less of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:06   something that's expensive but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:08   not much else they're like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:09   don't feel you know that's why i say on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:11   the interior I guess they have to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:13   it not as nice as the s just to like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6373">TS</a>]

01:46:15   differentiate their lines but how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6375">TS</a>]

01:46:17   money are you really going to save by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:19   using different seat materials like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:22   could save a couple hundred bucks here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:23   and there but the big-ticket items that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:25   stupid battery all the big steel parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6385">TS</a>]

01:46:28   that make up a car that you can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:29   rid of because you need suspension and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31   wheels and a body and crash protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33   and stuff like that are and I guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:36   you know one motorist cheaper than two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:38   and then that's it then you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:40   they're they're wise to go after their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42   big cost centers the batteries like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:44   cheaply can we make them can we build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:46   like this giant Factory and make pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48   huge capital investments that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:49   turn out that the first year 250,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:52   these batteries and put them into cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:53   that we can sell for thirty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6413">TS</a>]

01:46:54   thousand dollars and at least break even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56   or come close to a product I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:58   the sort of metal thing that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6418">TS</a>]

01:47:00   really talking about here is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:02   know Tesla is it would also what you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:05   think it's a car guy about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:06   individual products they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:08   doing the thing that so many other car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:11   companies have failed to do which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:12   build electric cars build a business on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6432">TS</a>]

01:47:15   them and make them good cars that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6435">TS</a>]

01:47:17   want to buy like that just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6437">TS</a>]

01:47:19   it'sit's it kind of goes without saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:20   we don't say like oh I've complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22   about this particular car but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:23   nobody else is doing that how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:26   biggest car companies in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:27   sometimes have difficulty making a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:29   that people want to buy and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:30   making internal combustion engine car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:32   sometimes they miss that target tesla's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6452">TS</a>]

01:47:34   making electric cars that people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:36   buy but hundreds of thousands of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:37   water sight unseen so they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:41   they're they're quite a phenomenon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:44   regardless of the quality of the range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:45   of products and this is like their third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:47   car or whatever i'm willing to give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:49   why to the way to continue to forth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:52   continue to figure out how to do cars if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:55   they're still in business but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:56   hope they are you know when my grandkids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:58   are driving they should be making pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:02   amazing cars for prices that hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:04   anybody can afford the first of all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:07   being in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:08   all in all the way out that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:10   someone's gonna buy them apple tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12   right i isolate isolate the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14   companies the bottom but well maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:17   police car company could would even sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:20   to a car company i think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:21   assassinated on first before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:23   but I i'm thinking like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:24   worst-case scenario if they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:26   desperate and if they're gonna go out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:27   business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:28   I think they're gonna get bought rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:29   than just shut down but anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6509">TS</a>]

01:48:32   really quite something like to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:34   amount of enthusiasm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36   and and energy and momentum behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:39   launch of this car that we know almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6519">TS</a>]

01:48:41   nothing about eight and even before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43   knew anything about it can't happen your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:45   story but it's this is really we're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:47   the cusp of something big here and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6527">TS</a>]

01:48:49   it's happening now it's not like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:51   like well in the future cars will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53   really nice and will be all electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:55   know today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:56   cars are really nice and all electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58   they're just really expensive right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6538">TS</a>]

01:48:59   but they're here they exist they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:02   selling you know like they I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6542">TS</a>]

01:49:04   have something like a hundred and fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:05   thousand Model S is already out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:07   world so there's all their they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:10   sell these cars in decent volume and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:13   this that isn't as much volume as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:16   you know the the entire world driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:19   population or some other big brand cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:21   but that is like real volume that counts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6561">TS</a>]

01:49:25   for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:26   you know that these things already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6566">TS</a>]

01:49:27   exists today and they're only going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29   become more of them in the future it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:31   don't think this is a temporary fad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:33   think this is like this is the lake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:35   once you drive one you realize like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:36   my god this is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:38   why doesn't everybody happened of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:40   the answer is because it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:42   expensive right now but that seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:43   a temporary problem i'm kind of confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:46   about why some of them have a shape door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:49   handles and at least one model i presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:51   the base model doesn't like that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:53   like a value add feature well you by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:55   base model you get straight door handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6595">TS</a>]

01:49:56   like Marcos crappy cars but if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58   the upsell models your door handle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:01   slightly l-shaped they probably haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6601">TS</a>]

01:50:03   decided which one yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6603">TS</a>]

01:50:04   like the one with the elves and built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:06   the other one the other without them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:07   those that I think I when they when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6607">TS</a>]

01:50:08   drove the cars out onto the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:10   another electric car moments when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:12   realize they don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:13   filling the room with carbon monoxide is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:15   a drive cars out hundreds straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:17   exactly and they also have to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:18   about the noise of the engines running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:20   just drive right out fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:22   yeah that was pretty wild really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:24   every time I Drive this electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6624">TS</a>]

01:50:27   drivetrain I'm just like all my god this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:28   is so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6628">TS</a>]

01:50:29   like why why would it if if you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:33   one of these if you can both swing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6633">TS</a>]

01:50:35   price and if it fits within your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37   lifestyle with like you know range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:39   concerns and everything if those are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:41   those are two big IFS but if it fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:44   why wouldn't you get it like once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6644">TS</a>]

01:50:46   drive it that's honestly how you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6646">TS</a>]

01:50:48   because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:49   no good if you have the means i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:51   suggest try picking one up i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:54   tell you though the interior is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6654">TS</a>]

01:50:56   unbelievably bad to my eyes it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6656">TS</a>]

01:51:00   dashboard ish it has a thing that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:04   like a dashboard but all it has on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:06   dashboard is a steering wheel and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:08   touchscreen and yes I'm aware that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:11   of this is in flight but it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:14   they didn't even try yet like oh god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6674">TS</a>]

01:51:17   don't like the floating display it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20   looks fragile to my eyes which i know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22   is akc problem but I don't like it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:25   definitely do not like having any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:27   of gauges behind the steering wheel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:29   just think that's a terrible idea a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:31   of other cars have tried that like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:34   there have been various theories i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6694">TS</a>]

01:51:35   the economic one is like will make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:37   world car that's symmetrical so we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39   do right and left hand drive and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:40   put the dash cluster in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6700">TS</a>]

01:51:42   I'm not sure how much i buy that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:44   reason but it's something you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:46   and think about the one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6706">TS</a>]

01:51:48   they gave was like well it's better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:51   not have to change your focal distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:53   as much from looking out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:55   where your focal distance is way off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6715">TS</a>]

01:51:56   down the road to looking super close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:58   you be like the gauge cluster so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6718">TS</a>]

01:52:00   do like a two-level dash or put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:02   the center so it's you know difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6722">TS</a>]

01:52:04   between focusing at four feet versus two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:06   feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:07   I'm not sure I buy that because i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6727">TS</a>]

01:52:09   know i mean III can't understand maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:10   the focal distance you don't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6730">TS</a>]

01:52:11   from really close to really far but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:13   much farther away from you can you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:15   that dashboard when it 10 had still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6735">TS</a>]

01:52:17   it inside the car with you it can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6737">TS</a>]

01:52:19   know make that big of a difference and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6739">TS</a>]

01:52:22   just think consumers have voted with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:25   their feet to say every car that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:27   tried to do this and there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:28   many of them the feedback has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:30   universally negative not massively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:33   negative but enough negative that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:34   subsequent models they changed every car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:36   that's not a two-level dash where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6756">TS</a>]

01:52:37   have 17 Gators close one so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39   regardless had a bunch of gauges in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:41   middle has eventually gone back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:45   more conventional arrangement or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:46   that model has you know faded away a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6766">TS</a>]

01:52:49   models replaced i think maybe toda echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:51   still has that arrangement as the SD the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:53   loan store but it baffles me why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6773">TS</a>]

01:52:58   want to do that in anything other than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6778">TS</a>]

01:52:59   concept Carly and the wild card is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6779">TS</a>]

01:53:01   course we don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6781">TS</a>]

01:53:02   I can find you have another solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:03   maybe it's all heads up display and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:05   an amazing HUD alright fine I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:07   I'm just saying is like somewhere where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:10   the driver doesn't have to turn his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:12   you need to be able to see things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:13   how fast you're going and you know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6793">TS</a>]

01:53:16   information about the car is your turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:17   signal on your headlights on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6797">TS</a>]

01:53:19   without having to look elsewhere i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:21   like that should be easily within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6801">TS</a>]

01:53:23   drivers vision without requiring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6803">TS</a>]

01:53:25   that's why we have gauge clusters so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:28   really hope they have some solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6808">TS</a>]

01:53:30   that that isn't just look at the giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:33   screen but the Giants 17 or 18 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:36   screen that we have stable to the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6816">TS</a>]

01:53:38   of the dashboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6818">TS</a>]

01:53:39   yeah I completely agree i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:41   understand it's not the final design but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:43   god I do not like it at all it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6823">TS</a>]

01:53:46   looks so boring and sis this vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6826">TS</a>]

01:53:48   emptiness there it's it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6828">TS</a>]

01:53:53   all in all I am very interested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:55   car i'm not interested enough to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:58   put down a pre-order and at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:00   there's no point putting down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:01   pre-order because Declan will be out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6841">TS</a>]

01:54:03   college by the time they would deliver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6843">TS</a>]

01:54:04   on that formerly part was saying but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:07   but I'm really intrigued and i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6847">TS</a>]

01:54:09   pleased that they're they're moving on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:12   off down market is really the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:13   to describe it but certainly into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:15   larger segment of the market and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6855">TS</a>]

01:54:18   driven underscores model s it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6858">TS</a>]

01:54:21   ruined me for life I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:24   electric cars done right are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:26   phenomenally cool and and I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6866">TS</a>]

01:54:29   really anxious to see what this looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:31   like when it's all said and done when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:33   it's actually released when will you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6873">TS</a>]

01:54:36   know what I also want to see is like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:38   did anyone else respond to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:40   yeah what happens when this eat into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6880">TS</a>]

01:54:42   big part of sales of the BMW 3-series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:45   you know what happened what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:47   how does everyone else react to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:49   well they already have all got electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6889">TS</a>]

01:54:50   our projects in the works like all them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:52   a BMW already got one of the i8 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6892">TS</a>]

01:54:54   India the i3 and portions got the there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6894">TS</a>]

01:54:57   are their electric car product that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6897">TS</a>]

01:54:59   lot of people have essentially model s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:01   competitors in various stages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:03   development i think now it's just a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6903">TS</a>]

01:55:04   of who can get their cars to market soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6904">TS</a>]

01:55:08   enough because of tehsil beat them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:09   market is going to be a real problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6909">TS</a>]

01:55:10   because as we've seen people just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:12   buy whatever whatever good electric car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:15   is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:15   well they're gonna buy it if for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:16   beats the the model 3 out i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6916">TS</a>]

01:55:18   portions are kind of already lost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6918">TS</a>]

01:55:20   palace has been out like those something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:21   was brought up in a recent article I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6921">TS</a>]

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01:55:53   car accepts both an internal combustion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6953">TS</a>]

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01:56:14   look better details and interior and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:16   just general kind of like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6976">TS</a>]

01:56:18   intangibles because the Tesla's for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:20   of their their good looks and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6980">TS</a>]

01:56:22   still they haven't I don't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:25   haven't really defined a strong visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:28   language and I was that you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6988">TS</a>]

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01:56:34   look more generic in-laws like then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:38   fairly distinctive personalities of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/6998">TS</a>]

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01:56:43   audi you know it's an hour be if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7003">TS</a>]

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01:56:51   eyes having trouble establishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:53   anything outside the sort of generic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7013">TS</a>]

01:56:55   future looking car aesthetic in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7015">TS</a>]

01:56:58   early days of the ipod apple had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7018">TS</a>]

01:57:01   really really strong advantage over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7021">TS</a>]

01:57:03   rest of the market that not only were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7023">TS</a>]

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01:57:11   would consume so much flash memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7031">TS</a>]

01:57:13   production in the world that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7033">TS</a>]

01:57:16   manufacturers were not even able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7036">TS</a>]

01:57:18   match them on price we even get enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7038">TS</a>]

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01:57:21   flat memory because Apple was consuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7041">TS</a>]

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01:57:25   one of Tesla has that for lithium-ion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7045">TS</a>]

01:57:28   battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7048">TS</a>]

01:57:29   production yeah they're not buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7049">TS</a>]

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01:57:32   expect to happen is as part of Tesla's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7052">TS</a>]

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01:57:38   excess capacity they will sell batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7058">TS</a>]

01:57:39   from the gigafactory to audi and BMW and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7059">TS</a>]

01:57:42   Mercedes or whatever because because why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7062">TS</a>]

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01:57:45   reason toyota sells the the body called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7065">TS</a>]

01:57:48   the previous electric drivetrain to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7068">TS</a>]

01:57:50   many other car manufacturers they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:51   afraid of people competing the priests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:53   because they feel like the whole package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7073">TS</a>]

01:57:54   but they'll sell you their system at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:55   at a you know had a profit and license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7075">TS</a>]

01:57:58   that essentially to you to use your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7078">TS</a>]

01:57:59   she's not interested in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7079">TS</a>]

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01:58:02   remember the the faith beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7082">TS</a>]

01:58:04   Volkswagen Phaeton are you pronounce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7084">TS</a>]

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01:58:07   high-end BW which is weird because IM w [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7087">TS</a>]

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01:58:15   I'm calling is the the new audi a2 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7095">TS</a>]

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01:58:22   electric like so that's that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7102">TS</a>]

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01:58:30   so much that like the their secret tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7110">TS</a>]

01:58:32   the Tesla has unlocked the Tesla has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7112">TS</a>]

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01:58:36   job with modern lithium-ion battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7116">TS</a>]

01:58:38   technology and put some electric motors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7118">TS</a>]

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01:58:41   like if you if you had told any car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7121">TS</a>]

01:58:43   manually totality several years ago just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:45   sell a car starting at 70 grand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7125">TS</a>]

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01:58:58   didn't see that this didn't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7138">TS</a>]

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01:59:05   building a pure electric car is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7145">TS</a>]

01:59:07   more straightforward than hybrid i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7147">TS</a>]

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01:59:13   this down the other thing like the chevy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7153">TS</a>]

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01:59:18   Tesla so smart to commit early no just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:21   electric that's it like no hybrid no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7161">TS</a>]

01:59:23   internal combustion engine makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7163">TS</a>]

01:59:24   everything simpler we are completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7164">TS</a>]

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01:59:27   people will buy this product and now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7167">TS</a>]

01:59:29   feel like the other auto manufacturers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:30   have woken up to that market possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7170">TS</a>]

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01:59:49   electric cars sooner than we think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQgXUyc/7189">TS</a>]

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