00:00:00 ◼ ► I'm starting to think seasonal allergies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► are some kind of bullshit like it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► that not that they're not real but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► I so I have in the last few years gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/8">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► really bad seasonal allergies and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► seems like every single year it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/14">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► only worse but that everybody else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/17">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► this is the worst year ever for pollen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► of course this house every year the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► worst year ever and it this this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► like something is wrong house every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/30">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► the hottest year ever i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► they're linked together but it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► that it makes for you know a greenhouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► effect let's call it might make for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/38">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► easier to have more growing things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► produce more pollen I have no idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► that is even the case but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► what I see is a problem that used to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► exist as much that now is exploding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/52">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► existence and seems to affect tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► people and the best thing we can do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► take medicines that not only don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► but that when they don't work the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/64">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► who tell you to take them say oh well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► doesn't it didn't work this time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► you didn't start taking a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► beforehand or Oh it'll you're building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► eventually I mean it's like I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► I'm spending whatever it is a dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/80">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► nothing every year it's worse and worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► I don't know it so i mean when i was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/88">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► kid i take allergy shots because I i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► better and I heard adults do allergy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► shots sometimes for seasonal allergies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► do any of you have in you and the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► anybody have experience that because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► would i would gladly do allergy shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► again if it could fix this because every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► year at least in the spring sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► I'm just useless for like two weeks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► with a combination of like sick kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► season in the winter preceding this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► just exhausting and it makes it hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/120">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► do anything you should try some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► Hopi and what is it homeopathic call me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► up the thick what however you pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/125">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► I want some of those remedies because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► oh I'm already taking them by not taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► hey I'm taking the maximum effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► dose by not taking them at all haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► rightly divide by zero something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► that works out right so let's do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► follow-up and it starts with we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/142">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► lot of feedback about how Walmart is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► energy-efficient and I don't even recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► having talked about that in the prior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► episode i remember talking about energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► efficiency of course but i guess one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► us made some sort of flipping comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► about it and inhabit out that was me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► been through one under the bus because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► they're the the standard-bearer for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► terrible giant american company right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► and so I just assumed that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/167">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► also the type of company that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► pinch pennies and not bother investing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► in green energy but that is not the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► we will link to a walmart website where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► renewable plans they plan to be under on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► hundred percent renewable energy by 2020 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/182">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► so they're not quite where Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► today but they have plans to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/186">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► I you know I I hesitate to say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► because I'm sure we'll just get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► email from people telling me the walmart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► well that's not true i only wish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/199">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► their sustainability that they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► page extended to the sustainability of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► their workforces and paying them enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/205">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► to be alive and healthy and not relying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► on well take if they can't get paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► benefits to rest the government pickups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► back anyway I don't like Walmart have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► you noticed but they are actually doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► solar stuff so I was wrong in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► there you go walmart boosters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► they're out there in Walmart's defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► which is a probably afraid you'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► hear me say again but in Walmart's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► defense if you look at other retailers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► like Amazon for instance it's often not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► a lot better it's it's mostly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► mostly at fault here is retail is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/240">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► business and government regulations on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► things like minimum wage simply don't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► far enough okay to emails next topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► well now that i wouldn't call it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► walmart defense that would just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/256">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► saying like Walmart does bad things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► they're all so bad it doesn't make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► any better to find other people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► the bad thing and we're not going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► into it you know like well if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► like the minimum wage like well my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► my competitors can pay their blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► employees this low and we don't we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► yes there maybe there's lots of blame to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► blameless but they do put solar panels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► on the roof things so there's they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► got that going for the one thing they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/284">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► okay we all right so I wanted to tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► about USB ports on the ipad pro because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► apparently we're all confused about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► we are not confused i was just thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► about it the other day it's not what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► think it's not like oh yeah the USB two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► speeds on the the 9.7 inch iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► stuff like that when I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► about is you got this relatively huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► ipad pro the big one and even the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► know the regular-sized iPad has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/309">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► room on it and at these days the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► thing on them and now they removed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► the rotation lock and everything is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► power volume of course that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► that the home button touch ID sensor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► then this one tiny little lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/323">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► on the side and I was like well what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/325">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► the next step for the big ipad pro your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► keyboards you can attach them it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/329">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► smart connector on the side you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► he's got a stylist and i was i was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/333">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► most inspired by Marco talking last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/337">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► about you could always hook up USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► things to iPads and iOS devices and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► were just magically work if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► somehow find a way to power them if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/344">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► if they didn't get enough power from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► port and stuff like that like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► drivers are on there so the big ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/348">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► why would you not have actual USB ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► on it i mean i guess not more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► because you wouldn't want to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► powerful than a quick one right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/359">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► anyway but what why wouldn't you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► know as opposed to having a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/364">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► adapter and all this other stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► you know or or SD card slot over but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► there's just so much freaking room on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► the big ipad pro but as far as USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► connectors apple is painted itself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► kind of a corner with the Lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► thing because the practical reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► you wouldn't put USB connectors on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► ipad is if you did put them there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► be USB type-c and USB type-c looks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► hell lot like lightning and I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► imagine people jamming their lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/389">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► into the USBC port or vice versa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/390">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► distinguish between those two ports they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/395">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► they are different sizes physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► speaking and probably with the big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► can fit into the small one but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► think that's the reason what right but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► meant i think it would be a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► evolution of especially the very big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► ipad pro two have actual USB ports on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► eventually right but I don't see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► that can happen when lightning looks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► much like us bc so I wonder how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► will square that and if the answer is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/419">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► we're never going to have more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► lightning port on that i'm not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► sure that's the best long-term answer if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► they really wanted especially the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/426">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► ipad pro to becoming more and more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/428">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► viable laptop replacement ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► there are so many reasons why you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► you could you can conceivably think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► why Apple would not be putting USB ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► on iPads and and iOS devices in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► but why wouldn't you put it on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► obviously you're not going to put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► like most of the iOS line but when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► when you get up into something that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/451">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► big that it's it's so obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/452">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► intended to be just a slip into your bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► type of thing but it's like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/457">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► size of a laptop why does that not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► 1i guess you know Thunderbolt 3 port or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► whatever because there's so much you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► do like there's so many doors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► opened in terms of how usable it on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► desk as opposed to when you're walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► around with it but it's almost a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► to be constrained by lightning forever i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► mean it's it's possible they will at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► some point you know we never say never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► with apple and especially with a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► line and that is kind of on the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/480">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► on Cena sales-wise like Apple has done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► lot of things with the recent iPads that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► we thought they'd never do you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► an effort to to broaden your help help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► it find its feet or you know help help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► increase sales in some way or another so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► something like that in the future I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► think there's lots of reasons why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/501">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► have done so far and i think they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/502">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► challenges of of how do you how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► fit a port and then how do you avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/509">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► confusion with the other port I can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/511">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► around that with you know either by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► pumping and not solving the problem just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/516">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► putting the USBC port on there which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► not that unlikely or just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► shipping dongle or something I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/523">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► industry standard you know nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► these apple devices will have for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► years and you know then that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► they could solve that problem like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► that is not the reason they're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► and if they wanted to do it they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► yeah i would i would like to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► they would get around that because USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► supposedly apple had a lot of influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► in that connector it looks a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► lightning it's a from all accounts a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► pretty good connector as far as those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► having to come up with a new one just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/555">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► industry actually use and it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/561">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► an industry standard because the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► I'm just having to come up with one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► where connector I don't know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► seems like a shame to meet in it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► like a shame in the same way that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► always been a shame and continues to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/572">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► a shame that Microsoft chose the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/573">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► modifier key as unix meaning that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► want to unity stuff on windows it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► battle between the unix environment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► the windows environment like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/583">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► ctrl-c does that mean you know send the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► interrupt signal or copy text and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► know depends on where you are as Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► through mostly accidents of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► because the mac operating system uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► the command key and too much much lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/597">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► extent the control key so the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► he's almost entirely available the unix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► chocolate peanut butter combination that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► is or was Mac OS 10 hours os10 it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► beautiful you don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/610">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► the conflict and I feel like Apple is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► the windows control key for the OS side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► of the equation with its lighting ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► basically making it a little bit extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/618">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► bit of a pain in the butt you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► have now they have a problem to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/623">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► whereas these devices that are just USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► from top to bottom won't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► problem to solve their only problem will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► be like how many of these USBC port so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/631">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► replacement tablet thing I forget that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► the surface has USBC port on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► anyway if they wanted to it seems like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/640">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► think they could do much more easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► problems where it's like well couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► windows have changed that but they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► the windows key that could have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► their modifier but it just has so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► inertia and it would annoy so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► people that windows continues to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► along with the control keeping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► well don't worry and windows will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► did you have that open to hang out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/659">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► that'sthat's unix never-changing taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► the control away from them and it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► grand scheme of things that small issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► but it's one of those things that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► mackineeks every time I deal with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► looking at the ipad and lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► and the USBC port shape that makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► for my brow bit so I mean at this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/682">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► on a topic list which is why I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► to derail us and talking about it why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► you think they haven't put a lot of put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► a USB port on ipad so far and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► what do you think they could do that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/696">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► mean i think the former is easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► explain like why have done so far I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/700">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► think that the big things are that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► seemed like the past they want to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/704">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► forward from that and didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► build support for these devices and deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► with all the all the technical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► software complexity of that and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► they kinda like things to be all include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► we all kind of enclosed for instance one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► of the things that you would want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/718">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► USB port for be additional storage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► they are don't want to do that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► wanted to buy from them so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► there's lots of reasons why they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► what do you think could motivate them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/727">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► general use on the ipad pro I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/734">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► people use the little camera connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► kit that has a USB port on it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/741">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► only time I think I've ever seen it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► you doing live broadcasts when were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► San Francisco 4wd see I know that Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► smell is you know play around with it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► have others but i cannot think of anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► other than you Marco that I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► use the USB to lightning or in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► USB dock connectors so I just don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► like there's much of a market for like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► can't think of anything that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► want to plug into my ipad other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► maybe the memory card from my camera or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/775">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► hence the connection the dongle being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► called the camera connector I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► well it's a kind of as with all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► things in a race with the we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► about this many shows ago it's in a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► this technology's right so there's lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/792">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► of wireless standards out there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/793">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► everything from wireless display to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► wireless power to all you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► we have wireless networking and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► but become pervasive so it really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/804">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► of is a race between the eventual need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/808">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► to do some of the things that USB does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► on on tablet devices and how long it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/813">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► takes for all those wireless standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/818">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► to become to reach their wife I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► wear for a moment where they finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► become good enough for general use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► just spread everywhere because but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► one loves wires like if you could have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/826">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► love lawyers wireless display and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► know why are the storage and wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/831">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► power so you just come to us with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► laptop and put it down in your big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► screen for any returns on like of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/836">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► who wouldn't want that right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► especially things like monitors that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► plug into the wall and like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► recharge the batteries in your monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► the monitor but still be plugged into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► just didn't have to deal with anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► we're not there yet obviously with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/846">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► but so setting that aside and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► that could swamp all this the reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► eventually want something like us beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► the big ipad or whatever is in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► reason they added a stylist right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► they made the big version that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► they're extending these the capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► multitasking with a split screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► they want people to be able to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► with these devices that they couldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► with the simpler ones and it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► they're becoming more powerful they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► becoming the out that there was someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► posted recently i think it was a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► between something about like look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► of the CPUs that have ever been and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► think it was microsoft surface or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► forget what it was some other you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► slim sort of people something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► people accept a laptop replacement look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► at how many of them are slower than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► ipad pro write it if if the top end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/892">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► technology in terms of computing power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► is not growing as it used to and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► talk about in tech not tick tock stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► later in the show i eventually these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/905">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► things that are historically lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► devices laptops and eventually tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► and eventually supposedly phones will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► slowly creep up and start closing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/917">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► situation where a big ipad pro can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► maybe they just don't think the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/924">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► anymore eventually a big ipad pro will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► have all the power of the current mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► pro because i'll never forget updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/929">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► machine and if you have if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/930">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► small you know it's against the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► price and size the computer starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/936">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► dropping 20 then you will want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► little thing like that you carry around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► with you and your bag that you check on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► your desk in that when you do so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► connect to all the peripherals that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/946">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► you'd want in a big desk environment you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► can have multiple monitors hooked up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► can have larger storage you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► wired networking for faster transfers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► peripherals and the question is do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► need to plug them in our they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/958">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► wireless so this point with today's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► technology a lot of them you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► plug-in so that's why I'm saying like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/962">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► thunderbolt three poor like we keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► saying USB but you know you hook it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/965">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► and you have to external monitors maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► you hook it up and you have a big giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► touchscreen it's like 27 inches that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► you know like laid out on your table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► instead of being in front of you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► complicated stuff it's like why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► wouldn't have a desktop computer to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/979">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► how can an ipad drive something drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► peripherals that powerful eventually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► will be able to again especially at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► top and it continues to grow more slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► than the bottom so i feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► functionality currently enabled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/993">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► inevitably will come to tablet class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► devices assuming tablet devices still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► existed not like they are devices or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► the only question is when that comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► connector to do it or we'll all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► Wireless will be some other standard so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► here's here's an interesting thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► experiment we've had wireless things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► general wireless protocols wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► networking wireless you know device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► interconnection standards things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► Bluetooth Wi-Fi we've had these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► now for a long time and technology terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► in over 10 years we've had these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► ubiquitous for over 10 years and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► very widely supported and really quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► mature for what they are and yet if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► look at the devices we use with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► exception of things that are fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► integrated like iPads but you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► you look like a laptop or desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► computer things that do connect to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► peripherals or other pieces of hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► almost all of that is still using wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► that was using wires 10 years ago like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► it seems like as the wireless things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► so have the wired versions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► everything and everyone still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► wires for lots of good reasons like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► love wires because they simply work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► better most of the time like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► they're usually more reliable they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► often faster they can go in places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► interference environments or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► certain restricted areas like planes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► no incident wireless stuff they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► advantage of things like power delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► and battery usage and everything else so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► wires are kind of yeah I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► here to stay like everyone always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► assumes that in the future everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► will be Wireless you know as you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► you can interfacing with your monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► interfacing with this stuff on your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► but maybe that's not true maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► not a safe assumption because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► we've had long enough now with wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► interconnexion things that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► possible and yet we're still using wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► for these things because they just work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► better but no one uses wires for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► working anymore they take the ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► ports right off the devices like as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► as Wi-Fi was good enough not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► because we always know it's flaky it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► slower like we all know the limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► of Wi-Fi it's you get interference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► microwave oven and you have interference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► from your portable phones and your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► and then you can't get on the network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► and you know you keep dropping like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► Wi-Fi has problems but as soon as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► got good enough people like will screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► these things because no one wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► walk from place to place a run wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► through their house or plug things in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► whatever i do all those things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► something is just not possible like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► know having having the you know wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► display technology so you don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► all the sorts of all those are laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► docks that you see in offices in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► many different incarnations they come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► and then no I don't want a doctor's 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► cable to plug in or whatever it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► not that bad to plug something in but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► you told those people in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► that we told them hey every time you sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► down you guess you'll have to plug the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► ethernet cable in and out anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► doesn't seem like a baby like who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► i plug in one cable it's fine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► really convenient it's so you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► works every time it's not a big deal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► Wi-Fi just wiped all that stuff off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► face of the earth there is no equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► to Wi-Fi would say bluetooth isn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► equal to Wi-Fi because I think bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► is still not passed the level of non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► flakiness for anything except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► removing output keyboards and mice i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► think people apart more or less except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► bluetooth but then there's the annoyance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► of the battery charging that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► there with wire so it has a downside to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► feel like bluetooth is borderline but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► other wireless technology for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► anything like that is as you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► remotely up to the the the net win that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► Wi-Fi was but it doesn't mean that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► never will be and you just read any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► speaking there's no reason you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► have really sophisticated high-speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► ubiquitous short-range high-bandwidth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► Wi-Fi even the power delivery stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► you're saying on a very long time scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► happened i don't have to be that long i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► mean you know people who use wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► it does that really exists I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► yeah like those stupid little pads yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► i mean obviously the it you can buy them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► for Apple devices to but most people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► i would imagine using for some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► android device it that is not a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► party thing but it comes with the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► but I I don't know people who choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► do that like that no one's forcing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► to use that they find it convenient that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► when they come home they put all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► devices on a big pad or they put in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► little cradle and it's like what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► putting in a cradle if there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► little plug at the bottom of the crater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► wouldn't would make a big difference if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► you plug it in and fuck their choosing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► and there you know this is not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► the biggest technology there's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► more convenient to have to deal with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1265">TS</a>]
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00:27:34 ◼ ► with burning and is it was a big thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► in their forms mostly consisted of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► people who don't own plasma televisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► telling everyone who does that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► shouldn't anymore because they're bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► and that's why the sugar LED televisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► helpful internet people it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► bunch of you know kids like they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► they don't understand why anyone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► want a plasma television that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► thing they care about is like my LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► television or they always called the LED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► television is is great and finding each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► other like kids kids calm down like stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► fighting about TV you have like we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► to concentrate on bungie and say bungee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► this seems like an easy feature for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► to add like translucency seems like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► within your grasp graphically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► on the playstation 4 to make the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► translucent or make it smaller or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► know many games do this they give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► options to tweak your HUD are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► necessarily for burning reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► customization reasons but it helps with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► well you know there isn't there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► second option here that they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► done you know just never let you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► playing destiny because then it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► matter if it's burned into your TV it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► always showing anyway if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► always play destiny if you never use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► your TV for anything else still matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► you would think it doesn't matter but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► does anyway you gotta stop sometime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► definitely the only thing i did my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► television anyway so the gaming monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► i got is obviously does not look as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► as my television the black levels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► atrocious the response time is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► but anyway so that's how I'm playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► destiny for a year and the big threat in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► the bungee forms bungee like has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► really said anything official about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► topic of like other than acknowledging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► we have heard you about this request I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► and you know that they haven't said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► in promising very very apple-like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► terms of very acknowledgement that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► issue has been received but no promises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► that it will ever be addressed let alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► what time so i imagine my surprise when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► here i am more than a year later bungee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► was previewing some of the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► they're gonna have in the April update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► destiny and one of the first things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► showed was the ability to turn off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► HUD that was mostly the features they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► were touting because people who you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► movies within the the game or take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► screenshots you know you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► have the HUD they're sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► making it less cinematic and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► look more like a game so you can drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► the head for like nicer screenshots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► movies and stuff but there's also two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► other options of you know full opacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► high and lower maybe there was a medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► level didn't really get to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► those look like in the game but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► were their settings wise so there will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► be options to turn down the hut I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► know if the low setting is low enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► prevent image retention that's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► problem my first problem is that i spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► a year playing destiny connected to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► gaming monitor and I'm kind of used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► it in terms of if I was to go back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► the television i would feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► really far away from the screen even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► though you know you can do the math that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► my television screens much bigger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► the distance wise i wouldn't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► I'm used to being closer to the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► close enough to like see the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► because not a Retina Display it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► you know a 1080 HD display just like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► television but i'm sitting like two feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► from it instead of eight feet away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► the other thing is when I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► potentially bring the playstation 4 back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► in my wife I said said that she was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► for this idea because that will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► lead to more fighting between my son who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► wants to play star wars battlefront and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► my daughter wants to watch television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► shows so it's better when they can be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► during the thing they want to do without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► fighting over the big TV so it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► me that despite my dreams coming true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► here potentially the dimming might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► be sufficient to prevent burning and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► other thing is and the two issues are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► I'm kind of used to it i'm sitting two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► feet from my monitor I'm kinda used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► playing that way at this point and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► it may be better to keep my playstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► 4 in here now if they come with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► PlayStation 4.5 as the rumors are that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► slightly more powerful playstation 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► with that more power potentially being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► helpful to the PlayStation VR which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► playstation 4.5 and connected to the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► so we have to play stations and my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► and I can play definitely the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► finally and my wife and i like that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► quote-unquote excuse well it's not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► not getting a second playstation this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► the better playstation and where else am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► I gonna put it I don't have a room from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► the game honor it's got to be connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► TV so this is a complicated situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► but if somebody who bought a ps4 only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► few months ago that really annoys made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► well it's only it's only rumor now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► the extra power like probably wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► be a big deal because you probably just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► before be four vr which will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► buy anyway honest you know like aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► you going to buy playstation vr typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► make you buy it i would like to see it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► mean i i'm not sure i will buy it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► think it's at least somewhat likely just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► because I I I don't plan to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► giant gaming pc to try the oculus right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► so it is that this is kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► the alternative to that for more casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► people like me so I think that's I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► yeah it's cheap enough they're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► know what fine ever i'm going to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► a try this is giving an honest shot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► know you're not gonna be like oh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► would be better if I had a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► playstation know it'll be you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► will be what it is the experience will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► be consistent you can try it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► find out if it's terrible or not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► that's that's been my plan as well but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► would like a playstation 4.5 anyway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► 121 infusion I know I knew I shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► have it used that a heroine anguish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► addressed and that i had 320 drop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► was just saving and saving it like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► yesterday I was like you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► should just infuse that into my three on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► my mind why the hell not i know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► going to lose a lot of points but pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► soon 333 35 stuff is gonna be dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► anyways there's no point in saving 320 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► coming in april this ends the gibberish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► portion of the episode yet Casey is John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► ok I don't know who you think should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► call somebody a hand on heart I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► trying to be funny I really thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► I just spaced out in the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► when a totally different direction i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► trying feverishly to catch up and figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► out what the crap jobs just saying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► then o.o is just talking destiny get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► nevermind i owe next next we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► Marco tell us about watch terminology i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► can't even I can't even write those that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► are we good with follow-up any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► well done excellent alright so i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► recall exactly when this happened i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► think is a little over a week ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► last episode we were busy talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► the apple event sweetie and didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► chance to talk about it some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► happened in the nodejs world last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► some interesting things we have a link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► in the show notes to Heaney codes dotnet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► which is sharing my experiences as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► engineering manager and this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► whose name I don't know whether than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► anyway uh they wrote a very quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► article about or a reasonably quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► article about what happened on NPM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► summarizer in chief and you guys can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► there was a person who had put up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► package called qik k ik and the what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► it a chat app or something like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► people who run that got in touch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► him and were upset that he was you he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► had a package that I don't think it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► in any way related to kick the app how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► to package that just have the same name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► and so they told him he should take down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► he said no and then I guess they went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► NPM which is the package manager node [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► package manager that that that you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► with node and they got em p.m. to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► it down and he then this this gentleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► decided to rage quit npm and remove all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► this packages so far this is a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► amusing but unremarkable story except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► that one of the packages that he removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► was a package that was called left pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► was it like 12 line string function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► yes you are right it is called left pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► function that just pads a string on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► left-hand side and apparently a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► very popular packages took this as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► dependency so in other words you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► when you're writing code in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► modern times you usually have a package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► manager something like cocoa pods or new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► something ancient something ancient yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► everything in pearls ancient something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► with actual tests that run against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► code so you can tell I couldn't resist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► but that's Sipan right or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► you got it okay so-so out most modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► development platforms and pearl have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► package manager here and npm is 144 this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► and when you have this package manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► makes it very easy to import somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► else's code so apparently what all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► these packages did including some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► very very popular ones they imported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► this left package in this entire package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► was eleven lines of code when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► package disappeared that meant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► anyone who had already downloaded it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► was ok but if you try to say code on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► new machine or in many cases redeploy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► then this package was gone and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► sudden everything broke and because so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► many popular packages took this as it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► a sub dependency if you will like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► of the note ecosystem broke and this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► really chapping a lot of people's butts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► developers most of them pretty much all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► from your right said why would you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► an 11 line dependency why not just write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► those 11 lines yourself or just or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► put them somewhere in your project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► somewhere in your control and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► big kerfuffle about it and I as someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► who has written a node app which is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► blog and i just recently reran clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► which is count lines of code on my blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► and I put up a short blog post about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► which will put the show notes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► entirety of my blog engine in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► the things that i have written is 850 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► lines of code then I did a count lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► of code my note packages for node [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► modules folder and that was a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► and eighty thousand lines of code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► cool i'm not really one to throw stones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► on this issue but nevertheless I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► think it's really useful to poop all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► over package managers and the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► taking dependencies just carpet lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► it's a bad idea i don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► necessarily true i do think however that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► taking 11 line dependency is a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► ridiculous so Marco as chief curmudgeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► when it comes to these sorts of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► what are your thoughts first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► think Jon might be even more commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► than me on the head but your bike around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► i'm at least better known for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► avoiding dependencies like this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► reason why i avoid dependencies as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► as I can is not because I've always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► like this it's because of experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► that I had mostly during the early days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► of tumblr lots of things that we used in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► the early days broke lots of third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► components lots of application layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► stuff you know infrastructure components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► that were not very widely used were very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► young or were not designed to be used at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► big scales but most of the most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► problems we had were third-party PHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► modules no third-party PHP code written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► by other people that we imported so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► wouldn't have to write our own functions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► for things like s3 or image resizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► stuff like that we had so many problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► with this code especially the freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► zend framework I don't know if it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► now but it sure wasn't then we had we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► had so many problems with like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► every third party library that we used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► that we eventually just said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► we're just going to not use any anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► because it every time we would use one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► literally not just sometimes literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► six months later we would be ripping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► out and replacing it with either another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► third-party one that breaks much after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► that or finally be right around because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► they were they just were of low quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► and we're not designed for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► high-needs environment or not designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► for edge cases or whatever else because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► a lot of third-party code out there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► know there's there's this myth that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► open source stuff will be really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► tested and and we'll kind of you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► battle-hardened and you can rely on more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► than stuff you write yourself but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► sometimes it's only true for some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► that's and that's how true that is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► kind of a function of how popular that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► code is so if you're using something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► facebook down to cases blog engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► chances are that's been well tested and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► the bugs have been found in the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► cases have been hit and you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► be the biggest person using it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► you're not going to hit many problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► but it when you're just pulling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► third-party code from a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► it's often hard to tell whether what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► you're pulling in is of that level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► quality or not and when you're it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► you're in a young language or a module [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► for doing something that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► don't need to do kind of like an itch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► module I don't have transmitted by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► way I don't know it's a nice niche I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► forget it but I every time i say that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► worry about that i'm the same way i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► right there with good okay so we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► agree that we're pronouncing it badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► anyway so that the let the fewer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► fewer people use the thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► working on a few big people use it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► less reliable it inherently is simply by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► being open source or third party or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► whatever so I just learned over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► that I was better off writing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► myself and avoiding dependencies even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► when they work well they can cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► something changes and it breaks other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2458">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► things and package managers can solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► problems like that most of the time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► I've never seen a single one that solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► them all of the time in anything linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► languages and I mean like you're at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► when you add dependencies like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► willy-nilly you're really just adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► work and risk and the idea that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► won't be able to deploy your site on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► new servers because the original host of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► this 11 line function took it down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► that's crazy lee there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► problems with that sound just crazy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► me like why are you not in control of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► that I don't know it as somebody who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► run large scale services before every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► dependency like that just to me is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► huge liability and occasionally it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► worth using third-party code but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► it's a lot less often than what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► something I mean it's not like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► saying oh I was using the compiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► they came with my system but eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► learned how to write my own compiler you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► know i was using the OS the chip with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► service but eventually I learned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► it's wasteful to try to rely on linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► you never know what the hell they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► going to do and they can break your crab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► so it's better to write your own OS like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► something it's all just a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► where you draw that line and why so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► there's sort of for most of our lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► been the idea that like no ones you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► not going to write your own OS and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► own compiler and maybe you're not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► your own web server but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► writing web applications at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► boundary then it's like now it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► more programs do you use an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► framework we write your own framework it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► was a type of thing where you can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► your own web framework like it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► know that's how all the ones we have got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► here like it doesn't take a 719 do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► yeah I did you use one of the popular if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► you use one of the popular third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► one's chances and you happen to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► marcos unfortunate / fortunate situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► of you end up being you know it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► perhaps unexpectedly one of the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► users of everything you do because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► are tremendous all of a sudden you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► the compound growth or whatever and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► me point out to tumblr was not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► tremendous we started having these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► problems you know we probably had maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► a hundred thousand users when all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► started breaking it wasn't that big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► service like relative to what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► consider like a scaled or scalable web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► well I mean yeah sometimes when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► hit start going to facebook is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► example they were using a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► technology stack and their solution was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► throw people and money at the problem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► the point where they were compiling see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► that PHP and to c++ and crazy stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► that that's another possible approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► you know like and I don't know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► decided to write everything themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► they got down and we're going to rewrite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► the language ourselves and what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► hip-hop their replacement thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► whatever but those are those I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► your extremes i think for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► most companies that are doing web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► development i don't know if i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► say for the most part maybe it's 5050 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► are using in-house web frameworks it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► the modern error though there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► many popular web frameworks that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► for so many needs that it's accepted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► that you're going to build on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► them i think we're there to places with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► us this silly javascript and only three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► places silly javascript stuff fell down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► one is an area that I'm familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► because javascript is a crap language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► that is missing really important things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► that people want right and pearl started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► out as a crap language that was missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► many important things that people wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► and still do today is missing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► things that people want which means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► to sort of to sort of round out your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► language ruby has a little bit of degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► 2 because they they considered an asset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► to sort of round out your language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► make it a habitable you know to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► there's a minimal amount of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► furniture you need to buy for the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► before you can move in and it's not part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► of the language that's it you know done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► in libraries right so javascript is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► definitely in that situation which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► why there's all these things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► know CoffeeScript and and type script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► and other things that are like try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► make JavaScript feel nicer those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► libraries but the same idea that that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► one wants to just use drop script by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► itself because even basic things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► say left padding a string are not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► language or the standard library or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► standard library is defined as what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► can run your browser right so someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► function right not in PHP they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► there are you know I know I like the is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► array packages talking about like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► the common test and people want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► that's not in the language that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► easy to write but it's also easy to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► wrong it's just kind of like a basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► thing right so you want to do that PHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► yeah just JavaScript not nor pearl by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► the way javascript is in that position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► and so that's why these things exist the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► community not sort of having their act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► together enough to realize all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► we have this language that has these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► gaps the best way to fill them is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► with 10 billion individual dependencies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► each of which has one of those function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► like as a community they should have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► know sort of come together and settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► on some much larger libraries are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► and round out the JavaScript language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► for me live one point out right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► maybe the seven competing ones of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► but in that is much better than under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► left pad i'm going to do sane regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► expression matching i know i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► do take inheritance in a prototype based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► language and you know everyone sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► just doing the little tiny thing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► having a million of those combined and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► think the third failure for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► people who got hit by this bug is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► where the expectation is that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► run your deploy at and part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► deployment or updating a singer whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► automated procedure they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► thinking about the fact that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► connected to third-party service to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► that right if you're just slightly older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► if you're like you know maybe 10 or 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► years older than the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► running to these problems you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► grown up in a culture like I did where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► you know you're building on top of pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► their gaps and pearl and you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► libraries there's web frameworks maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► writing your own you but certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► you're building on top of some real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► basics like DVI lwp or whatever help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► know the sort of core foundational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► things that most people use Pro wanna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► but if you're in a big important company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► you don't go out to cpanel to get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► internal Sipan mirror at your company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► checked into version control so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► exactly what the hell you're getting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► nothing anybody can do on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► it's gonna change what you deploy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► the only nothing is going to break your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► stuff based on what's on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► and you maintain that mirror and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► sink upstream and downstream and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► like you control your own destiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► it's tons of third-party software like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► cpn mirror especially back in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► days was pretty darn big and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► why do we have to have our own Sipan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► mirror-like because you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► rely on stop on the internet when I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► sick for security reasons alone like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► that the idea that pulling something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► production systems those production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► systems were pre-broken not by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► they were just by the fact they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► relying on third-party code not just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► the fact that they're at their third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► party dependencies are broken down into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► microscopic individual functions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► ridiculous names but because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► weren't they weren't masters of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► own destiny matter what you choose to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► in terms of dependencies and you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► based on market was talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► know is it reliable is it suitable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► my purpose and I better off doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► is it a core competency but like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► these sorts of decisions eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► you're going to do everything you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► going to do some things with third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► code whether it's your wet RS your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► compiler or whatever but especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► its package management you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► that stuff in-house and these days it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► nothing to have a complete mirror of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► some public repository in your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► that it or just the individual packages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► you want to check them into your version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► control you don't need the whole freakin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► repository the repository don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► golden deployment process just get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► code that you need and then that code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► will never change out from under you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► it suited your purposes will continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► be suitable until you decide that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► in summary whippersnappers well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► all I will say is that it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► deployment because one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► that I was thinking about when this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► was that when i deploy camel to heroku [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► what I'm deploying it's just my code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► including my my list of dependencies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► just like you said John heroku is then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► going out 10pm and fetching all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► packages on my behalf so this very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► could have bitten me if myself or one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► the packages I depend on was dependent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► on the one that got pulled so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► this is exactly something that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► have run into because of the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► choose to host my site and I choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► host onto on heroku for a variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► reasons but mostly like you said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► core competencies I don't have the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► interest or desire to be a linux server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► admin and so I choose for better or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► worse to have a platform as a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► and that's what I like and I and worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► with fine but that's what i like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► that's what and that's what works for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► that's how i've chosen to do it and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► there are ways around this even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► heroku but but my point is even an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► innocent bystander like myself I am I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► potentially guilty of doing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► thing that's weird to me that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► practically speaking that you're pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► from the internet as you deployed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► wouldn't I don't understand why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► needs to be I dynamic part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► process like that that's that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► like that should be pulled down like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► same way you pull some cocoa pods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► out part of your application every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► you compile it doesn't redownloaded from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► cocoa pods and silently updated to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► different version or get it like or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► you never actually have it and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► know it's like more dynamic and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► like oh all this interconnected web and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► network connectors never go down and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► can trust what's on the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► but I I don't understand how you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► trust that honestly I mean I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► know this is maybe this is another weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► CP anything but like what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► dynamically pulling every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► deploy you're just trusting you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► npm repositories Hiroko is using and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► they might be poisoned with what I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► get this matter of personal side is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► does not add specific issues just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► culture of the same culture that gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► you websites that n dot IO to implore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► you to you know run curl and pipe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► through back you know man I'm exact kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► of culture it's kind of like a return to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► return to the really old days when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► I was first starting unix-like it I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► told the story before it bu all TTYL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► world writable right that's how naive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► way they were like that was telling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► there was no ssh your passwords are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► flying in plain text every time you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► méditerranée p anywhere all TTYL world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► writable it was like that the free love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► sixties right and that era came to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► end but then you know fast-forward 20 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► 30 years and people are are pulling from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► an unknown website and piping to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► shell sometimes they have pseudo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► there any like someone just put in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► chat room sometimes they'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► seriously I'm gonna pull from a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► and pipe pseudo SH I don't know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► it's a utopian world that a has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► actually really existed and cannot be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3119">TS</a>]
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00:52:04 ◼ ► good decided realize that the websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► that ended die or inherently bad this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► news to me it's the whipper snappers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► is the whipper snappers have you seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► you've seen the websites i'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► right like some some some cool new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► technology and they have a website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► procedure wants you to just run a curl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► command pipe it into a shell like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► no thank you i will not do that i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► is it any really any better when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► had like you know she'll archives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► down like char files and you just run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► those blindly maybe it wasn't that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► better but I feel like you're crossing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► line when the network is involved and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► you're just like blindly trusting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► going over a wire that you just allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► to execute on your machine you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► pulled off a website because that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► same as as downloading you know unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► understand how it's all equivalent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► really that different and it's like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3175">TS</a>]
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00:53:06 ◼ ► application comes from the the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► with incomes from it hasn't been altered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► there's a reason that is rolled out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3190">TS</a>]
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00:54:39 ◼ ► the whole you know coke bottle look from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► all that thickness now my glasses online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► sounds tricky but they make it easy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► risk-free the home try-on program let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► you order five pairs of glasses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► evaluate at home for free they ship them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► to you for free to try them on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► comfort of your home and get feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► from people in real life if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► you can keep these frames for up to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► days then you send them back also for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► free with their prepaid return label and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► there's no obligation to purchase after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► you can stop right there you spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► nothing if they are right for you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► Parker will get started on your order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► right away and they can get prescription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► glasses to you within 10 business days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► at most and usually even faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► that and they also believe in giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► back to the world for every pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► glasses they sell they distribute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► another pair to somebody in need through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► various vision charities so whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► could use a nice pair of eyeglasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► reading glasses or even just sunglasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► go to worry Parker calm / ATP to order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► your FREE Home try on today with free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► shipping both ways and no obligation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► buy once again it's worry Parker calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► ATP thanks to word Parker for sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► technology preview was released and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► we'll put the official blog post in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► show notes but basically the gist is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► this is a separate app that you download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► via the web and then is updated I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► fortnightly via the mac app store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► it's sort of kind of a more stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► version of the Safari nightly if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► understand things right except that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► one important ability which I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► believe that Safari nightlies have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► webcam nightlies have which is it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► talk to iCloud and so if you're like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► and rely on Safari and rely on bookmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► sync and things like that you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► the Safari technology preview the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► this is a segue from what we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► talking about though is that I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► this on my work computer i haven't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► 1password extension when I did so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► attempted to enter a password for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► whatever was i was looking at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► and the 1password extension said oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► this isn't signed the way we expect thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► thus we don't want you to do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► that comes back to what you're saying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► minute ago John about cryptographically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► signing things making sure that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► you're looking at is what you expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► exercise etc so I just let that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► interesting and good on one password for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► telling me these things although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► couldn't figure out a way to override it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► which is a little bit of a bummer but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► still worked really well the outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► I haven't had the chance to kick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► tires too much yet but so far so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► i've really liked it have you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► small i only have one question did all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► of your plug-in icons all kind of shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► over to the right side as you were using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► it or did they stay where you put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► on the left side of the address bar all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► that friggin address bar even in non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► preview so far even just a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► safari frequently the icons in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► toolbar safari decide they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► where they are and would like a new home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► and then I think they'll just they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► up just all because i think what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► is if they get updated i think they lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► their spot and they get and they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► get added on to the right side so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► a balance bar so I i have four of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► buttons ago in the address bar from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► extensions i like to put two and left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► you on the right and it they always end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► up just having all four on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► after you know within a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► yeah that's not good about remembering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► where you put things in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► tradition of the modern Apple they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► let you arrange things sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► they will not respect your rearrangement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► of the only place i can say that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► true is to the credit of iOS springboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► is usually pretty good about not moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► your crap not a hundred percent is every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► once in a while something will pump out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► of place like you doing always update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► adds an unmovable undeletable apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► apple bumper things but whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► it's pretty good but I safari toolbars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► yeah I have experienced that is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► experienced that not in the beta naught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► in the nightly but just in the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► stable one not even during updates and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► usually blame like weird I cloud syncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► like it gets it loses track of things is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► trying to notice that i added an icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► somewhere six years ago on a mac is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► longer in service with some state on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► some server somewhere inside Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► wakes up once every three months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► property lists towards my various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► maximum perturb the icons but how am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► supposed to pin cute dogs to pinterest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► if I can't find the Pinterest button in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► safari a problem buying them to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► shortcuts but the most important feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► unmentioned what is the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► oh the copy the clipboard things so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► can get rid of flash know it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► is the whole reason anyone whatever why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► would I want to eat why would I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► which is gray yeah no actually that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► the purple icon is actually you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► do like it I do like it better it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► look neat and the reason i want to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► disappointing thing for me about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► would have preferred the chrome system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► where you can just sort of tell chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► go on the beta channel or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► only have one installation of chrome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► you say but chrome update yourself from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► regular channel and the reason is far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► you still my default browser and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► realized that i'm pretty much never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► going to use the Safari technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► preview unless I sort of i disabled or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► making dirt the standard one so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► preview can sort of take over as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► default browser but i don't really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► to do that either like i would prefer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► just have one safari and switch it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► and forth from should be pulling updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► from the beta thing or not but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► certainly better than it was before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► never really ran the nightlies for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► reasons the case cover that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► wasn't it wasn't signed by apple so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► couldn't have the the iCloud connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► and everything so this is a step up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► but i don't really want to run two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► copies of safari and I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► have to step up the old one and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► entirely confident that even if I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► the OSD my default browser is this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► that the other one isn't going to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► on its own maybe actually give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► chance maybe we should try using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► purple one for a while and see if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► blue one comes back to life zombie-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► but anyway lots of good new tech in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► case you mentioned in the new one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► bunch of shadow Dom stop acting strips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► xmas script six which is a slightly less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► crappy version of java script so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► yeah that the copy and paste not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► paste sorry I cut and copy command which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► is great and i love that they highlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► you know this is the only reason anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► still has legit reason to run flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► because the only way to get stuff onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► I don't we do it works sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► just wanna have a link that you click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► the copy something into the clipboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► and having to run flash that has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► felt gross so another browser supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► interesting thing here I want to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3694">TS</a>]
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01:01:38 ◼ ► becomes very short programmatic cut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3698">TS</a>]
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01:02:19 ◼ ► gesture is it is it that it can only be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3739">TS</a>]
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01:02:23 ◼ ► is it something more explicit i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3743">TS</a>]
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01:02:38 ◼ ► yeah the security it's useless for even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3758">TS</a>]
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01:02:44 ◼ ► know some kind of buffer overflow or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3764">TS</a>]
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01:02:51 ◼ ► crap and put it there which could still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► be annoying like those stupid things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► know when you try to copy and paste text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► and they put a little attribution line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► next to it like we've all seen that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► that it can still be annoying to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► stuff into your clipboard but annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► websites are always going to be annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► no matter what and so this website does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3785">TS</a>]
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01:03:08 ◼ ► we'll just deal with the annoyance but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3788">TS</a>]
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01:03:13 ◼ ► this feature does not allow the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► yep this is the this is a good thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3797">TS</a>]
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01:03:25 ◼ ► transparent apple which I approve of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► that I'm really I'm really pleased with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► the way 2015 2016 have been with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3809">TS</a>]
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01:03:35 ◼ ► this this is all good stuff in and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► remember we talked about safaris the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3818">TS</a>]
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01:03:43 ◼ ► director a reaction to that but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► specifically addresses a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► actual issues raised in that like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3827">TS</a>]
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01:03:52 ◼ ► whatever like the idea that they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3832">TS</a>]
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01:03:57 ◼ ► development process and you had to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► for the next version of us to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► together thing now this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► incremental step towards even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3842">TS</a>]
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01:04:18 ◼ ► safari the web blog has been updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3858">TS</a>]
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01:04:25 ◼ ► stop the previously would have had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3865">TS</a>]
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01:05:17 ◼ ► though they talked about wanting to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3917">TS</a>]
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01:05:25 ◼ ► what else were you doing during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3925">TS</a>]
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01:05:31 ◼ ► well that didn't make it into three were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/3931">TS</a>]
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01:07:15 ◼ ► say about this other than I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4035">TS</a>]
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01:07:26 ◼ ► process all the all the hard-working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► button studied and studied so which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► is to take in which one is the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4050">TS</a>]
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01:07:38 ◼ ► name so they had to come up with another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4058">TS</a>]
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01:07:48 ◼ ► think they came up with is not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► tick-tock was much better so that team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4070">TS</a>]
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01:08:04 ◼ ► like it's much easier now they made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► part of it easier but PA oh does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► roll off the tongue like tik tok does so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► it's basically you know processes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► tick architecture is the talk that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► microarchitecture a new chip that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► you know a different number of execution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► units in different branch prediction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► different cache lines and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► it's a new architecture and then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► optimization which as far as I'm aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► i'm looking at older arkiro link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► show notes from antec as far as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► aware they haven't really nailed down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► optimization phase beyond saying well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► it's not going to be a shrink and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► not going to be a new architecture it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► going to be this third time when we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► integrated GPU better they could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► maybe make it uses less power through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► more clever you know power management or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► throttling or thermals or you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► don't know what they're going to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► optimization phase will find out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► it's going to be a formal formal part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► the process and as many people to chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► room more starkly trying to imply like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► tick-tock may have been the strategy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► named for the past year or two but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► sort of the length of the tick and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► length of the talks have been stretching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► out in weird ways and really this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► three-phase architecture is just more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► an acknowledgement of what was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► happening already the time scales are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► stretched out more and that Intel wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► to recognize that and set expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► to say we are going to do new process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► architecture and then we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► sort of work on the two of them together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► for a little while longer to give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► next process a longer time to hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► arrive on our new three-phase schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► so we're all started still staring at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► sort of the oncoming train of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► end of Moore's law the real end is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► theoretically speaking but practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► speaking there need to be it's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► harder and harder to make things smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► and smaller with lithography techniques [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► and the research and the money required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► to go down to the next smaller sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► like what you know that the real next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► breakthrough has to be like can't do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► have to continue to use lithography you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► know sort of shining not so much lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► straining forms of electromagnetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► radiation onto a thing to cause the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► areas exposed to react differently than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► on exposed areas that's what we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► doing for our entire lives to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► I don't know what's next assembling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► transistors out of individual atoms or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► weird technologies that you know and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► the you know sort of the RND realm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► can definitely make things smaller that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► way but you can make them at scale and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► so there's this sort of general research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► intel plows Bradley forward and let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► last we talked a lot about Intel missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► their dates and holding up apples things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► or whatever the bottom line is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► still ahead of all their competition in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► terms of their process how far along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► they are a different process sizes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► advantage for them and maybe they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► the ones to make the next step before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► everybody else because they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► in the time and energy and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► already ahead of everybody else so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► can't really be picking on a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► much because they are sort of at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► bleeding edge of this but if there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► intel may just get to it first and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► everyone catches up with them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► tells the advantages is gone so stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► tuned for the ATP episode in 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► and we were visit that topic goodness i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► alright so speaking of Intel kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► falling on its face and speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► really crummy and loose segways the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► oculus founders said that the oculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► rift which was shipped in the last day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► or two right uh anyway the the rift will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► come to the mac only if Apple Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► quote ever releases a good computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► quote maybe that's all Intel's fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► so what's going on here why is what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► in what by what metric is Apple not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► I mean I hit a little bit last week i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► mean the the main thing is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► graphics card and over time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► more pedestrian ones will probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► able to drive it just fine but right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► it's so cutting edge and it has such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► high graphical needs that it requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► are really really high power graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► card and there is only a handful in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► pc world that are good enough to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► and apple ships none of those in any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► their computers the only computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► maybe the mac pro but the current mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► pro is two-and-a-half years old or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► and and has fairly outdated gpus as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► result of being sold with every covers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► little bit last week so I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► go too far into it now but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► short version is that there's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► problems here most of which apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► doesn't appear to care about you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► a major drama discussing the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4377">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► helping apple care that much about game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► on the mac but you know Apple has so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► for a long time now tied their updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► to intel's updates and as we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► as Intel cycles i'm getting longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► between major place their cpus that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► also stretched out Mac update cycles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► and apples habit as a last week of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► skipping some processor generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► until gives them for their lower volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► products like the mac mini and the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► pro and you know even some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► laptop's these days first their strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► Apple strategy for skipping some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► things that they could use kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► holding off till better ones come later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► that's also working against them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► again as the as the entire generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► have gotten longer we now have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► situation that we've had that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► today with most laptops where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► sitting around waiting for the sky lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► revision from Intel come out in quantity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► so that Apple can ship them the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► macbook pros and meanwhile the ones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► three-year-old cpu and them something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► well i hope i hope something has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► change we'll see if it actually does or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► obviously Intel can't deliver new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► generations of chips any faster we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► seeing that you know we're seeing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► they are slowing down the rate of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► able to deliver these things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► just everything is getting harder so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► Apple needs to either be okay not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► getting these markets and bok selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► three-year-old hardware in max you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► brand-new today on a regular basis or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► generations which would generally cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► their product cycle time in half because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► they tend to skip every other generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► on some of these some of these products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► at the mac pro or Apple can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► issuing updates to products even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► there is no new cpu to use from Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► which they hit they have occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► done but it's not it's not a routine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► thing for them any of those things could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► could solve this problem also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► then you have the issue of like even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► they kept their products more up-to-date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► what products does Apple sell that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► accommodate the size and thermals of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► high-power GPU and it's basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► one and a half it's like the mac pro for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► depending on you know the cooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► requirements and everything and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► you basically have two max that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► could plausibly put really high-power GP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► using and both of those are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► pretty low volume products for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► especially the mac pro so it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► we care 22 to address this market which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► i think is unfortunate because I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► Apple had a little bit more hunger in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► attracting people from PCs then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► seem to but with the exception of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► whole ipad stuff but that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► whole different thing but I i do wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► they would solve this more often but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► think it would make max better also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► and if Apple ever has vr ambitions this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► will hurt them as well but for now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► is the situation we're in and we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► apples apples attitude towards things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► has been frustrating like a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► ago I wrote something on my blog asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► for the cheese grater that hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► back when the show started that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► of the reasons are icons with was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► old cheese grater with the the sarcastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► new label on it because they introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► a new mac brother was barely knew and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► it's like you ever going to update this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► what's the deal and I was asking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► them to you know there's anyone left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► high-performance computers no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► not going to make a lot of money for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► know they're not going to be high volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► you know it doesn't matter in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► scheme of things but if you are computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► isn't there someone there who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► really likes fast great computers just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► like the example user halo cars in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► car industry where lots of car companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► make a car is probably going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► money loser for them just because car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► companies are filled with people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► love cars and people love cars tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► love fast cars and beautiful cars and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► they make these cars that are just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► boondoggle like you spend all this money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► on R&D it's got all these custom parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► no one's even gonna use this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► it seems weird infinity or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► you make it because you love cars right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► and they did that the two mac pro I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► you may not agree with their vision but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► you can't say that they just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► punted it and just like oh here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► another tower computer they had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► computer like that this was the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► high-performance computing and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► you know it had these at the time fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► powerful video cards with 12 gigs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► vram which was unprecedented shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► stock on a mac and it was you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► it was it was interesting and innovative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► on all fronts was it a good supercar was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► it a good halocarbon maybe not or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► whatever but then you can't go and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► just let that sit there like mad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► then you just lose interest right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► because that's sort of like on-again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► off-again thing where it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► of high-performance here's an amazingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► expandable max looks like a cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► grater and it's easy to open up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► could swap the ram and will update it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► frequently and well you know you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► in different video cards and has slots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► and look how easy it is taken out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► drive and the first one can only do two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► drives now this one can do for is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4678">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► easier to get the drives in and out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► you know they made a water-cooled one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► like it seemed like they were on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► bandwagon for a pretty long time lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► interest and they came back and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► interested in is that immediately lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► interest again and that's not a way to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► to attract people who have similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► sensibilities like hey are you one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► the people who is like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► gearhead who loves you know supercars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► and high-performance cars do you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► big high-performance computers in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► respects as an end in and of themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► like you don't even need this but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► just think its cool the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► people you by fast cars that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► never drive at the full speed they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► gonna drop you know it's like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► the type produces apple care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► customer sometimes they do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► because there are people inside Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► who are like that but then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► sudden they don't again it becomes hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► trust the company so many people so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► things I've you know been reading lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► about the pros who you know maybe these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► people who actually live with Jenny like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► the professional graphics people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► professional 3d people professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► video people or whatever saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► sometimes Apple it pays attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► them then they don't they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4737">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► tired of the the relate the rocky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► relationship and they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► somewhere that has more consistently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► supported them they're switching to pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► or whatever gamers have long since made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► that decision was the Apple has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► really cared about gamers and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► incidentally when they ship machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► where is easy to swap video cards would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► you buy a pc video card flash it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► your mac shove it in there and then boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► you've got the mac that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► really good gaming pc as well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► part of palmer luckey complain here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► quote i put in the notes about this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► can you can buy a six thousand dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► mac pro with top-of-the-line AMD FirePro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► d700 and it still doesn't match our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► recommended specs like it doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► meet like here's sort of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► here's what we think you have for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► rift a six thousand dollar mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► doesn't mean shit meet it like maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► know when that 6,000 imacros introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► it would have been a reasonable thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► like Paco's have come out then their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► their minimum spec may have been lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► likely no but lower resolution or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► whatever lower target frame or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► things are but nowadays it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► dollars and it still got the d700 it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► the world's just moved on by leaps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► bounds even was introduced in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► the d700 was not a gaming photos cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► or even was introduced their game cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► that were way faster right but now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► just ridiculous but the price hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► gone down right the old apple thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► like will continue to sell the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► computer for the same price for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► years while the rest of the world moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► on which you can get away with in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► markets but if you're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► anything and sort of the high-end pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► super-powerful whatever like I just wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► the mac pro whether it has pay attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► to gaming you know I just wish the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► pro would be the best fastest computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► in the world at something pretty for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► sustained period of time because i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► like that is entirely possible find make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► the best computer running that weird you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► know painting you know 12 megapixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► textures in real time on two models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► things they demo to wcu Pixar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► everything make it the best computer in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► the world for that for more than 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► minutes like it doesn't even have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► games but i think it should be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► neglected like that and said that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► this case apple is completely missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► out as far as we can see on the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► on the entirety of VR which who knows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► really help Apple has also to be our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► projects internally and they decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► it's not ready or not interesting or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► form it's taking on PCs and uninterested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► or whatever but they're they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► allowing people who buy their even their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► highest and computers to participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► it even speculatively so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► it's kind of depressing and the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► point is that the whole palmer luckey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► slamming the max I think he's slamming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► with reason but it doesn't mean that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► need an amazingly powerful graphics card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► to do quote-unquote vr you need for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► oculus rift which is a particularly our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► product but as we talked about earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► if you have a playstation 4 u.can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► playstation vr for a couple hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► it's not going to be as good as the rift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► it's not going to be as powerful but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► will run on your Playstation 4 which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► recommended system for the oculus rift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► so VR does not equal oculus rift they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► two different things as a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► product in VR is a concept how they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► one so you can use in your cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► now obviously the rift is probably going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► to be the highest end one or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► but you don't have to entirely missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► out in VR because you don't have a fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► interested in it as as at least Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► and I both are will try it out on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► couple hundred bucks thing we buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► Playstation and i will probably be weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► and it's gonna it's the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► consumer release of this technology so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► inevitably 10 years from now we'll look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► ridiculous that we even consider vr to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► be a thing or look back and ends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► look at how incredibly primitive it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► compared to what comes after it so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► will link to that love these in polygon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► basically saying your mac is fine for VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► just not for the rift which again its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► high-end vs capability like I i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► some mac somewhere to be the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► computer in the world for some hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► demanding computational function because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► I'm in too fast computers that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► like I don't feel like any way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► justify like that and I wish there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► more people and apple they had the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► yeah and it isn't just about gaming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► VR you know like it is even even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► are doesn't take off or even if even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► you can if you can disregard gamers as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► market Apple cares about lots of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► customers would have run can make use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► the extra resources of a well-equipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► mac pro you know the mac pro is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► computer in the mac lineup that can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► more than four cores and as discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► previously much to John chagrin I run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► utility in my menu bar called istat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► menus me too but uses up all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► aah shows me when my cores are in use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► and by what and i've noticed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► like over the last few years you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► multi-threaded is difficult and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► advantage of multiple cores i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► noticed in recent years that a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► of the things that I do are taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► advantage of multiple cores and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► lots of and even stuff that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► people would use like apples Photos app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► for instance or any kind of heavy photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► workflow lightroom Photos app aperture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► you know if you do any kind of video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► stuff of course that will use it to lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► of software that that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► use can take advantage of any amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► course you give it you know within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► so you know you can it right now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► the the imax and the 15-inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► Pros have four cores i would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► have an 8 or 12-core mac pro that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► be amazing but right now they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► they're they're not that competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► because there's no reason to buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► right now it with the prices on the age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► of them and everything but like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► there's so much software now so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► customers do have that could take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► advantages you don't have to just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► video editor or a high-end gamer to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► a mac pro you know and i can i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► trade-offs made by the new to mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► compared to the old cheese grater it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► overall a good product Italy if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► updated on a regular basis but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► the old cheese grater i think was was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► better modestly and in many ways but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► least want something some sign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► somebody at Apple both a cares about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► mac which is its i know i know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► the executives do care about the mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► sometimes it's hard to see the actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► of that on the outside and be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► somebody higher but Apple cares about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► high-end pro use of the mac and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► that is the part that's been seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► fading in recent years and I worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► that you know it's one thing to exit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► software game you know to discontinue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► aperture final cut i think they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► ok on I don't know much about the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► but i think they are maintaining that ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► logic or maintaining ok you know even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► Apple starts slacking off on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► heart on the software side of addressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► the pro-market it worries me greatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► when they start ignoring the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► side because like the software side we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► have good alternatives you know if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► aperture aperture went away we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► lightroom you know and we have that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► have the new Photos app if Final Cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► goes away there's like a bit and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► things people use you know if logic goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► away there's other audio editors but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► there's no more high-end Mac hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► you have to abandon the entire Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► platform to to have an alternative to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► that which is a really high bar it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► really big ask and a lot of people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► do I don't want to be an act i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► want to build a hackintosh or switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► I want to keep using mac OS and mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► incredibly well architected to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► hardware that Apple just doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► sell anymore and that's kind of sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► well they open the opengl stack is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► yeah I think you make a decent point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► Marco but i also don't think we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► be throwing in the towel quite yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► mean.they i would agree that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► update things like the mac pro as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► frequently as anyone in the world but me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► would want on purpose I'm perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► happy with them not updating it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► every 10 years so i don't have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► through another one of those months of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► this show when that's all we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► about that I'm good but you know in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► seriousness I don't think that that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► should be to disgruntled or sad that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► haven't seen one in admittedly a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► bit of time because presumably this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► get fixed and it will get fixed soon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► often and I I don't blame you for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► grumbly about the pace with which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► fix their refreshing the mac pro but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► it's got to be coming I mean it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► has to be and presumably soon i hope so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► it sounds like exactly what we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► saying when the cheese grater was over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► eventually and eventually we enter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► second phase which is like maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► never gonna update again maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► just going to stop selling mac pros like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► that's was the headspace we're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► background about the time the tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► considering well you know apples really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► has a consumer focus lately and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► all about the iPhone the iPad and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► know do they really need the mac pro in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► their lineup not not really maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► can feel like they can get it like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► they just won't make any more mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► president came up with the tube and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► I guess that you can argue about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► the tube is the correct division for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► high-performance computer but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► say they skimped you can't say they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► gave you a watered-down imac in the tube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► shaped like that thing was a macpro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► through and through with their vision of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► you know a whole bunch of ports on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► back of the thing and and circular and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► two huge video got one huge GPU but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► you gpus in one of them you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► computers also using to drive that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► graphics and the enclosure and like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► not the same vision as the cheese grater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► high-performance vision and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► exciting to see that you know that was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► think that was actually the Schiller can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► innovate my ass thing right like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► can't innovate anymore my ass that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► legit you know you could be crowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► about that and again like it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► just disagree about division of property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► you can't say that they were skipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► and were afraid and we're just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► high-performance computers they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► high-performance computers but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► it was just been so painful to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► thing land and then just nothing for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► long especially since the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► landed you know as we discussed much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► the show what Marco and I wanted was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► what was like calling back then the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► quad 27 inch display right we can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► knew this thing couldn't couldn't drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► it right and it was like well but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► is the first one you know it can't drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► it maybe you could drive it no can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► quite driving forever but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► not the white the one we want but ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► maybe the text not ready for it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► surely the next we'll do we didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► the next one's gonna come three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► later you know where that yeah and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► the meantime we both got 5k i'm axel my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► wife did anyway um so we've got our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► display but it's not in the mac pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► the current mac pro still can't drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► and we assume the next one will be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► to drive it but we don't know when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► was coming and they even that's a ? [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► honestly like whether whether the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► Mac Pro will drive a 5k display is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► honestly still a question mark but to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► like I've completed the past about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► about the drive-by software updates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► like lower priority things seem to seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► to get these drive-by updates we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► to get attention for like an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► something for like a week and then never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► touch it again and that's what you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► something like the el capitan disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► utility it seems like the mac pro from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► what we know so far and you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► apples about to prove us all wrong in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► this I hope they are but from what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► know so far it seems like the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► update to the tube was a drive-by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► hardware update where they were ignoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► it for seemingly for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► then they had this great this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► update that you know again I don't I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► can complete a lot about what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► to it because I i think they made I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► think it made it a lot more narrow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► you know and and a lot more expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► and then what it was before they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► narrow the appeal and they eliminated a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5458">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► lot of a lot of total values cases but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► they did innovate at you know as fillers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► asked said they did innovate what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► like if the the innovative and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► just kind of dropped the ball after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► like there are new cpus for that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► could have used in the meantime and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► skipped a generation could upgrade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► GPUs yeah they could upgrade just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► GPUs if they're if they're so focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► workstation gpus that somebody like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► who would want to buy the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► doesn't need it all I would gladly buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► it with one consumer GPU and because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► buying it for the cpu power and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► Rams healing and everything else and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► not the GPU reasons if they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► refocus the entire machine on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► high-end dual-gpu use then follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► through on that and they didn't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► through the GPUs are sitting there stale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► forever I've heard from people who try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► to use opencl 44 things that it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► kind of been head to head the ball drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► on it as well that it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► they they came in and they did this huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► redesign refocus the product that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► weren't really asking for and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► didn't follow through even on that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► that's that's why I'm i'm so sad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► this product because i love the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► i love especially what it used to be i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► love having this extremely flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► expandable tower that had to cpu sockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► tons of ram slots you put a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► of drives in it and granted you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► modernize it in other ways like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► these days you don't need many drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► anymore because now we're in the area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► SSDs and and the drivers have gotten so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► big you don't need as many more so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► you can you can see the removing some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► these things i do still greatly missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► the dual socket configurations and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► do greatly misconfigurations that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► have to graphics cards because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► need them but I i hope they write this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► at some point soon i don't know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► will or not but but i really hope they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► do and I'm i'm still maintaining some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► optimism because if they don't the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► you know i'm using mine i'm i'm almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► I i would like a lot more cpu power so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► they make a compelling mac pro that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► get Korres in reasonably I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► that but if they if the mac pro withers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► away an irrelevance the way it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► over the last few years and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► never it's never good again i still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► the imac and that's fine but boy I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► I got the mac pro back just because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► cpu speed mostly because of cpu speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► and fan quietness yeah yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► things like being totally silent at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► load level isn't is just kind of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► graceful and nice i'm having happened as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► the xeon class components in the ECC ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► and everything make sure that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► like makes things slightly more reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► having more internal port stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► that you know like you know like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► USB ports built in rather than having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► use wiki hubs stuff like that like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► love all those things about the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► and again if we never get it back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► way me or drawn want it will deal will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► be ok but it does seem like a waste that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► would there's all these amazing cpus out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► there at the high end world like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► next generation of the broader Zeon's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► there's a 5 gigahertz part with four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► cores if you can have a dual stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► configuration have two of those eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► cores at five gigahertz that would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► incredible that would be the best single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► thread and multi-threaded mac and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► whether i can offer that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► current micro design is only one socket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► and the CPUs they use can do to can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► two things don't offer that machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► it's just like there's so much more they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► could offer there are so many great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► processors in the z online they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► offer and there are so many use cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► the old Mac Pro solved that the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► doesn't and all those things make me sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► but I'm still hoping for mac pro update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► soon we'll see what happens i guess have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5694">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► alright thanks for three sponsor this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► Casper warby parker and audible com and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► mean to begin as it was accidental death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► research Marco and Casey would let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► yes eyl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment are bc AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5747">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► so you had a family member I did yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► has it has wheels though you subtracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► Oh miss that car you don't tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► when when I when I was prepared to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► it off and when I did drop it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► I was almost in tears like I really this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► is the only time that I've ever given up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► a car that i owned where I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► sad to see it go every other time I've i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► have that I've either stop having a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► or upgraded to a different car every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► other time I've been kind of ambivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► toward my old one for some reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► know either you know before I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► leasing either be like you because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► was costing a lot of money because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► was breaking down constantly and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► why i was getting a different car or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► like you know what with my previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► upgrading to the m5 so going from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► three series 75 a huge jump and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► man so excited this 3-series a little be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► fine i'm going down five that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► forget it forget the 3-series this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► you know the the m5 it's so good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► it's so different from where I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► that i was i was almost regretting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► second-guessing my move like when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► trying man I'm gonna really get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► like because you know where I'm going is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► is different it's not all better it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► better in some ways worse than others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► and at m5 just such a good car that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► yeah I'm said that you left behind me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► don't blame you it's not like you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► anything wrong but I'm sad about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► because you know I feel like I bonded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► with that car I mean it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► it's the only have ever driven into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► countries it's the only car that's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► shuttle shuffled me around Germany it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► the only Carver benim in or driven the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► Nurburgring on and whatever that we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► as a as a group of four spent a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► good times in that car and you guys as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► group of two and three spent a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► it's that but that's okay because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► lively sighs loose-leaf at least myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► a Tesla they still own it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► problem at least the am the least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► yeah exactly i know you felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► yours buddy were just leasing it 0 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► you're never willing to commit to the m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► you're always like 43 years i'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► you a trial period m5 maybe I like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► maybe a walk but but you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► believe me you don't want to own em car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► older than three years but I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► depends it like that the thing I'll miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► most about the the incarcerated what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► just talked about about the mac pro like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► I mean maybe it's partly where I live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► but like testicles like the toyota camry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► aware i live like they're all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► place like but I rarely see and implying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► things like two in the whole you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► extended neighborhood area but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► like a Tesla on every other driveway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► Tesla just seems less special because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► less rare it's also less of a less of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► mac pro in terms of we we make lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► good cars and they're plenty fast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► can we take one of our cars and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► you know as good as fast as we possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► can i don't even care what kind of car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► does the universe big giant four-door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► sedan we can make that go fast too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► let's let's work our magic like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► you know it's the almost pointlessly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► exotic high-end right and the Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► especially since you didn't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► point with the exotic high-intensity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► even if you had it still more it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► other goals because it is a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► platform a whole new technology and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► is necessarily more prozac we're not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► the at the stage yet where there can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► even be an electric car that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► regular streetcar that is as focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► ridiculously excessive performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► applied to another car as the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► ridiculous AMG Mercedes or the m5 zor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► any sort of supercar don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► I feel like you are taking a step up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► automotive access their first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► think I'd I think I disagree with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► big things that you just said number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► I would say the model s in its various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► like supercar configuration but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► ludicrous mode i would say those maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► are those kind of extreme configurations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► I have never seen as many other m5's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► one neighborhood as I have when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► visited your neighborhood bar there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► lot of 5 and there are a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► m-files but the testicles are everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► they're just like seriously it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► target a camera above my neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► like when I commute all I just see is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► tesla's been printed before the tesslies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► Casey's upsetedness but the Panamera was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► the other thing that like Tesla came on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► everywhere I was like who's buying these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► we're only talking about happy thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► this time job no panamera suggestion or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► something but it's a saying it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► the same type of thing that the test on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► the Panamera both like four door cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► but shaped trying to be shaped like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► sporty cars like you know the test light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► doesn't look like an m5 it is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► more kind of like I'm a sporty car but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► have four doors how can we sort of make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► that look nice and Tesla has obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► put a chopping the Panamera does of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► but they're both doing that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► thing and it's and it's kind of I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► like both of them are very similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► market like midlife crisis cars are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► know that's why karmarkar's read write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► another right where they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► feel like they have to get a four-door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► car but they do have to get a four-door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► car so they go to the Porsche dealership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► to get a four-door car and then modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► version of that is I have to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► four-door car because they have a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► but can I get this super fast electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► one that I still feel and get it in red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► and now I still feel like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► got a cool car a couple things real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► quick number one the Tesla is lightyears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► better looking than the Panamera the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► Panamera is just hideously ugly number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► two so I was grabbing the Panamera link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► for the show notes as we're recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► and I landed on the Panamera part model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► page which I'll put the chat room there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► are 1 2 3 4 12 they're like what is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► 14 different models apparent panamera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► that run from 78,000 $100 to 260 3904 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► the Panamera exact exclusive series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► why would you want that with the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► God will pay a quarter-of-a-million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► dollars from a4a panamera you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► oven shop for a Porsche recently portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► measures their option packages and units [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► like the Porsche options have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► been assumed their prices are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► they're expensive right but any portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► you take you like I bet I could add like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► ten thousand dollars and options like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► one option is ten eleven twelve thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► dollars if you can add all the options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► your car something costs 263,000 dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► and you're like what happened i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► i was shopping for $80,000 four-door car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► yeah that Porsche Porsche options i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► i'm just i'm assuming portion options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► are actually rivaled by like bentleys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► and rolls but no one ever talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► how much was options cross because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► you're shopping for that people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► talk about money anymore but every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► I for the past like decade-and-a-half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► writer you're fortunate there like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► Porsches options i don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► they're thinking but like if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► anything it's thousands thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► there are 24 is that right to know 20 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► nine Elevens 22 how how is that a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► people like options i made it like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► you make sense a portrait like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► do you want to pay i mean like it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► you're gonna pay fifteen thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► dollars for the carbon ceramic brakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► the do you feel like paying seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► alright will charge you that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► whatever dude like how do you feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► special headlights for three thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► ok check that box hold it just it adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► up really fast right I apologize i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► derail decided like I'd never looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► buying a portion of that i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► looking at it now and I'm just flummoxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► if you can't buy that dude freakin tuba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► toothpaste you'll never be able to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► Porsche let me teach you a valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► mmm never apologize for derailing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► show haha well i can't i can't trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► your judgment on this issue but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► listened to top for its it's a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► train wreck at the light full train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► listening to John try to keep you within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► the guardrails on that episode was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► I felt I felt like I kept I kept things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► contained better-than-average it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► better than the average show still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► well alright so arrives we have totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► derailed so tell us about the test i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► the pickup experience but what you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► only had it for like two days so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► yeah well how is it so the pic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► experience or any I should just say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► mean you know we've talked in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► neutral and then in the after shows hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► about like different different car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► companies having different dealer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► experiences and a lot of it just depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► on your local dealers but sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► does seem like the way the company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► set up certain companies have liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► better or worse dealers and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► attitudes and others but Tesla invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► different to different Tesla dealers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► talk to a few other two other people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► the phone here and there and they've all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► been awesome like super low pressure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► contributes a lot to that the easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► going nature of of talking to them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► overall just really positive experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► granted i haven't had to like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► get tricky service or anything yet but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► know some people who have had Tesla's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► for for a while and they have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► reported very positive things about even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► the service and stuff like that so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► far incredibly positive experiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► dealing with them as a company there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► no negotiation on the prices which also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► makes things a little bit nicer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► simpler like you literally order your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► car online that you can call them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► you can't you can go into the showroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► and you can order it there if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► to but ordering it there is just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► using a computer with their problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► the public website on it and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► place the order with them if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► it's perfect it's its release it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► everybody who seen who works for Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► who have interacted with seems like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► were from California super like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► laid-back pic nice you know trendy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► it super nice people so very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► positive experiences there the pickup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► was just like any other car pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► where you know you you pick it up he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► signs papers you transfer the license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► plate and registration also that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► yes I got to keep keep my blue license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► plate my blue white New York plates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► the ugly new yellow ones i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► trying I've got this is now the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► car this plate will be on but because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► refused to trip to upgrade to the yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► ones because they're hideous on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► color of car so it's just like any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► car pickup you just walk down the stairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► and your cars on a rotating platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► connected through the floor is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► really just like it and then you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► outside and you're in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► 140 miles an hour so pretty much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► every other car pick up exactly like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► really carpet yeah but I really listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► to that partially because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► underscored said he had just listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► that that that episode of neutral and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► man I felt so bad for John because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► really got kind of browbeat into being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► on the head with us but got it was a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► episode in a fun trip but anyway yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► yeah so you know that they walked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► through like the features of the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► everything which you promptly forgot I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► have actually read some of the manual I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► i will have you no more than five pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► in a nose that open the trunk at least i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► read i think more pages of manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► because a lot of the features of the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► are not intuitive like for instance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► the rules of like when and how it locks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► and unlocks is actually not obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► that's what I had to look up things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► so how do i turn it off if i'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► in it like this it's like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► things like that that are that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► intuitive anyway and so I i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► have referred the manual few times but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► so you know going over the car taking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► granted i'm only two days into owning as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► you said so take all of this with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► grain of salt i might change your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► later but at the moment I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► mentioned how sad I was to give up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► m5 but I'm not sad anymore like once i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► got i was very sad for the two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► between my night when i turn it in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► when I picked up with Tesla and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► was worrying like I wonder if I made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► really i really was yeah and until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► until I started on the Tesla and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► reminded me why I went to Tesla in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► first place why I decided to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► move never drive a Tesla if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6536">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► intend to possibly buy Wow because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► when you drive it really i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► to say it's disruptive because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► evidence and abuse term and disruption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► usually usually is involved with low-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► disruption this is definitely not low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► and disruption at least not yet but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► is transformative in the sense that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► you drive an all-electric car especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► Tesla but you know even even the lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► end all electric cars like the chevy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► volt and the nissan leaf and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► that that are much more affordable even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► those have this property where several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► balls on electric sorry the bolton and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► it doesn't matter the leaf is no anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► buys right people hey so all-electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► cars have this property once you drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► it feels so different and in my opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► so much better than driving a gas car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► it makes gas cars seem like old clunkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► and it makes them seem irrelevant to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► point where now like now that i know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► i'm in the electric car mindset and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► and I'm feeling how they feel and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► they drive and and you know seeing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► they work and the advantages they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► there is no gas car on the market that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► want you know if if BMW comes out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► you know then the next m5 which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► probably have all wheel drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:20 ◼ ► probably coming on a couple years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6620">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► don't think i'm going to care because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► don't want a gas car like once once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► get used to the benefits of electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► there are still benefits to gas you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► along Highway ranges a big one that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► electric is just that is not only not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► there yet but probably will never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:38 ◼ ► there for four maybe aren't maybe our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6638">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► lifetimes or at least a big part of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► because of that the rate that better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► technology improves but my god it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► different it feels acceleration wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► like like I i got the 9th ed not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► fast crazy fast one that's the p versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► I didn't get those I feel like such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► douche we've been talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► kind of these are very expensive cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► i'm talking about but I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► you if you think I'm actually probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► stop listening by now if you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► sorry about that but anyway so it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► first of all it feels like i'm driving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► electric and like like I spent a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► time on trains I can you know commuter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► rails and subways and everything and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► way and you know trains are electric the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► way they accelerate it it has a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► electric artillery like like electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► trains do like they just like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► torque curve the way they feel off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► it feels like I'm I'm driving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► incredibly smooth futuristic awesomely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► powerful thing in a way that gas cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► even very powerful gas cars just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► feel like they they just can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► even now buying like the the like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► know middle-of-the-road configuration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► the Tesla it's so ridiculously good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6717">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► it's so ridiculously fast i'm so glad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► get the faster one because the faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► one is a big price jump and a big hit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► arrange for a difference of speed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► not only do I not needed but that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► described what I will be left with us as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► actually unpleasant to me like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► actually too fast and kind of felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► I was being punched in the face when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► so this is a really good configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► for me so far and you know I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► taken a big trip with it yet I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► put up to like a full supercharger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► had to wait 40 minutes to even start my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► charge you like I'm sure I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► have experiences with this car over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► next three years that I'm leasing it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► sure i'm going to have experiences that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► aren't all roses but the everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► driving around town which is what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► the vast majority of the time is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► amazing in it so far it really is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► i'm even sold on the touchscreen I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► ask me again in a few months maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6777">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► know maybe that maybe this will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► but so many of so many things like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► the way it does things the advancements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► it has are so nice and the interior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► quality isn't as good at BWW the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► sheet metal isn't as good lucky like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► the most of the cars other aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► besides the drivetrain are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► stepped down from what BMW offers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► I don't care like that's that's how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► the drivetrain is like I just don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► about that stuff down and it's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► transformative / disruptive because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► makes you ignore the downsides and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► care about the deficiencies because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► core of it that the drivetrain the feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► the just the handling it just feels so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► good it makes you forgive all the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► you know little nitpicks that you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► have so what's your favorite thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► far just driving like it's I'm like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► Tom being stupid like you know finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► reasons to go run stupid local errands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► like just to get me out of the house of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► the car again like just it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► just feels so good it's it's so it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► incredibly smooth and immediate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► direct feeling it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► the more time I spend in it the more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► underscore also has a 9 DD if i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► mistaken and he visited down here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► think it's right after Thanksgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► around thanksgiving sometime around then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► and i drove his car which i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► briefly spoke about on the show actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► Americans ideology there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► things that I don't like about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► I'm sure if i had 1i would suffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► through and learn to live with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► I didn't care for the touch screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► though it did make a lot more sense when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► I was in the car in seeing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► things i could tweak and configure did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► make a lot more sense than i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► would have expected the progenitor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► regenerative braking is really peculiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► I didn't really like it but I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► say I disliked it either was just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► well that's also that's an option you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► can turn down also yeah but i mean at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► the cost of range of course I'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► bit but yeah well still the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► that car can do though both performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► wise and technology wise are tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► like underscore was saying if i recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► correctly that he had set up his car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► such that when he pulls up to his house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► it opens the garage which is a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► apple thing to do right like it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► GPS on it it has a garage door opener on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► it tell it this is my house this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► where I need to use the garage door so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► just open the damn garage like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► such an obvious thing to do that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► thought of until he said oh yeah totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► does that for me and I think he said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6957">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► could even tell it to raise its raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► when he when he's arriving at the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► to give them a little extra room to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► over like the curb bird or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► yeah I'm stupid stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► really smart you know what I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► it's in stuff like that it was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► impressive and in the fact that it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► an app that didn't suck like I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► been able to use them you can act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► whatever-it-is app while you it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► comparatively less sucky than the BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► fortunately there are third-party apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► because the biggest reverse-engineer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► API that the official app is calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► that's totally safe yeah maybe I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► do anything harmful it's like I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► like stop the car or make it go it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► just like you know it can like open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► sunroof and turn the heat on stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► that it's like it's like that big of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► deal but wow it even like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► simple things like educate the garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► door opening and it closes when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► leave to like if you when you pull out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► of the driveway to leave they can close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► the garage for you and you could when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► you come back home and opens before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► get your right stuff like that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► really nice i mean and even having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► big touchscreen like one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:08 ◼ ► I'm kind of converting to the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7028">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► touchscreen now and appreciating it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► like it makes certain things possible or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► better that you wouldn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► expect from a car for instance you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► it just shows the google maps view and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► you can turn on satellite you can turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► on traffic overlays and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► you're getting like really you know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► reported traffic overlay traffic data I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► just leave the map on all the time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► even i'm doing local errands which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► most of my driving because i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► multiple routes i can use to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► places on going and I can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► traffic on this giant map screen of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► where I'm going without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► program a destination I have to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► trip out of it like GPS wise i can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► like glance at the screen casually and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► can co that Avenue over there is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► full of red let me take it away just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:52 ◼ ► little stuff like that like there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7072">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► screen enables little stuff like that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:57 ◼ ► even just like because it's so tall it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7077">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► has these different modes you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► you can have one appt taking up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► whole screen or you can split it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► can have a top and a bottom app and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► such a large screen that you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► like navigation as one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► and the other one could be at the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► it's nice having all of that on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► screen whereas the other you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► course i've used they've had these much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► smaller system screens where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► you kind of have to like switch modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► between different things and it's then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► you gotta wait and yet it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► laggy sometimes and and so I mean again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► the test one is not perfect it isn't as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► fast as I think it should be for a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► of this caliber i think i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► double-check with this I think I hear a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► hard drive in there are interesting as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► opposed to an SSD I think I'm hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► like if I'm doing stuff in the car it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► parked like I like setting up the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► system is part of everything was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► dead silent i think that is piping that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► into make you feel more comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► that's it yes if a car drives recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:57 ◼ ► audio there there why they know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7137">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► age of the people who buy these things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► want to feel like they're in a familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► yeah but like overall it's it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► more responsive than the BMW system was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► and you know it isn't responsible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:12 ◼ ► an iPad but it's it's not that far off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7152">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► and its really really quite nice even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► like simple things like one little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► things like that i like when driving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► it's dead silent and the whole car is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► incredibly quiet which I love you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► from em car that that's like made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► artificially louder and it already is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► that's that's a welcome change to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► also I i think they have a cool he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► hold feature where every time you stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► the car fully by default it has a hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► hold so it holds the brake for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► shows little H on the dashboard when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7189">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► so when you know it's happening so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► stopped at a traffic light and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► can just take your foot off the brake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7195">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► pedal for the entire time you're waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► and while the whole car is weird but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:02 ◼ ► went first like it seems weird and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7202">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► you then you start playing with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► you're like oh that's really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► actually it's just simple things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:12 ◼ ► it's you know that people always ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7212">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► know so far about the autopilot stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► and and the auto drive and the summoning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► and everything and I i did on autopilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► I haven't done something or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► else and I'm probably not going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► these things a lot from a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► scared to use a beta feature to pull my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► brand new car and out of my very tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► oh come on i'm probably not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► doing a lot of the head speaking up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:38 ◼ ► got rid of that friggin m5 in you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7238">TS</a>]
02:00:40 ◼ ► never did a launch control start God's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7240">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► so angry right now I completely forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► about that I I didn't forget about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► and I actually considered doing one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► the day I turned to be like just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► morning but I wouldn't you have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► i had three year old tires and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► raining like you know I don't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► even even a regular all even a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► launch controlled start in that car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:08 ◼ ► oh I'm so disappointed right now I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7268">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► even mad I'm just disappointed of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► I well that's okay though I'm oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► really curious to see how this goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► a couple of different times i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:24 ◼ ► the next time you go upstate either to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7284">TS</a>]
02:01:27 ◼ ► your family or tips family because tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7287">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► families like right on the ragged edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:32 ◼ ► of your available range right so I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7292">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► the short answer is I don't know yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► I mean by by light the rated range which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► of course nobody actually achieves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► by the by the actual range driven it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► seems as though i will probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► enough rings to get there and back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► one charge but we had a lot of headroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► I probably want to do that so i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► probably be plugging in there they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► surprisingly an extra dryer outlet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► that's what I know most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► have but they happen to have onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► Upstate and it's crazy up there so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► have an extra dryer outlet that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► within close distance of where Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► so i'll probably plug in there with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► adapter but you know it's fine i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► and and all the rest of the time of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:21 ◼ ► life I never if you do a gas station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7341">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► again that's true but then if you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► that's something like a 400-mile drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► which you're just not going to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► to do on one charge and so then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► gonna have to do the supercharger dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► now to be fair the superchargers started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:38 ◼ ► I think on the 95 corridor which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7358">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► road that that runs almost directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► between you and I so if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► choose a place to to test out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► superchargers it's a pretty good place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:50 ◼ ► to do it because I mean that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7370">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► plenty of them but it's still a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► considerable distance and in long enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► they would probably have to stop once if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7376">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► not twice adding and not and not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► considerable amount of time to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:03 ◼ ► already like 68 our trip to 10 depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7383">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► on what time you're going so I'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► to see if you guys have a recent visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► again like I don't know maybe of Top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► Gear's cover something similar to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► here comes out in the fall i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► to see how that trip goes get me too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► it could make us think oh you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:24 ◼ ► we should bring a gas card next time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7404">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► come down here or yeah i mean every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► i drive to your house I regret some part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► of the drive because there is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► nobody there is no good way to drive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► your house and back without hitting some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► kind of massive traffic problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► well I found a way that's that's if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:43 ◼ ► it's it's not bad at the very least sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7423">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► at the worst it's been a bit which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:49 ◼ ► improvement because I tell you what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7429">TS</a>]
02:03:51 ◼ ► Washington corridor on i-95 at any time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7431">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► when any human being on the planet could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► possibly be awake is a disaster so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7436">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► you avoid that whole corridor which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► think you guys took that route once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► then I think you ended up in like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:05 ◼ ► other disaster by pure dumb luck bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7445">TS</a>]
02:04:08 ◼ ► yeah but anyways yeah there are ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7448">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► avoid the bad spots but but you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► it's a crapshoot no matter what I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► i've been talking a lot even talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► about John what are your thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► questions about two days in i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► i mean i think i really feel like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► longer like especially to the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► screen stuff because like i did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► articulated the advantages of that very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:29 ◼ ► well and I by totally see all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7469">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► advantages but i just-i still just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► wonder about the minut extra hassle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► adjusting the temperature by having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► change the screen before you can hit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► button as opposed to a button it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► that's just I mean I'm annoyed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► physical buttons in my court and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► are physical buttons understand or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► bad physical buttons if I had to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► the screen to get to it like yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► well and to be fair I mean first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► this is kind of like like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:55 ◼ ► transmissions that were bad always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7495">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► annoyed me and now I just don't have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7498">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► it's fine that you may be having no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► buttons for you is better than having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► bad puns if you're not if you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► climate-controlled micromanager like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► am involved in Molly's much i'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► climate-controlled micromanager I tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► to just like set it and forget it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:16 ◼ ► the TV commercials always like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7516">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► I i tend to not play with it very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► Tesla climate controls are always on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► screen and they're always in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► spot they're always at the bottom row so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► you don't get you don't have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► change modes get there they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:32 ◼ ► so if you do want to make a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7532">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► adjustment you can and you know it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► don't have to like you know change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:37 ◼ ► screens that being said there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7537">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► actually a good number of buttons there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:41 ◼ ► like all around the wheel there's levers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7541">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► and buttons like all over the steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► customizable you can remap them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► certain things so actually like I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► like I was worried about the cruise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► control controls like for you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:55 ◼ ► like you know most most cruise controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7555">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► you can like manually like set you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7557">TS</a>]
02:05:59 ◼ ► like raise it up and down by like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7559">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► mile per hour or five miles per hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► late by certain gestures are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:04 ◼ ► pushing the levers test offers at to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7564">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► like they have a lever on the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:08 ◼ ► the steering wheel that's the cruise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7568">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► control lever is actually easier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► being because like most other cars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7570">TS</a>]
02:06:13 ◼ ► have to turn the cruise control on as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7573">TS</a>]
02:06:15 ◼ ► explicit action and it's off by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7575">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► whenever you turn the car on but Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:20 ◼ ► it's always available you just hit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7580">TS</a>]
02:06:21 ◼ ► it sets like it's like you actually see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7581">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► you actually save a step stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► like it's it's actually surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:27 ◼ ► well designed even its physical controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7587">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► for a car that appears at first glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:33 ◼ ► don't have any physical controls always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7593">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► upgrading your controls like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:38 ◼ ► thing that annoys me the most that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7598">TS</a>]
02:06:40 ◼ ► biggest downgrade in honda's climate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7600">TS</a>]
02:06:42 ◼ ► controls in the the series of honor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7602">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► I've had is the switch from individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► buttons for four modes in terms of top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► and bottom event you know feat and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:54 ◼ ► fogger you know I call all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7614">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► modes of how air can come out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7616">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► the switch from having a dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7618">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► button for every single one of those to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:01 ◼ ► a single button that cycles through them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7621">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► cycling through is is the worst nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:06 ◼ ► wants that so I'm on your Tesla does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7626">TS</a>]
02:07:08 ◼ ► have a mode switch to cycle through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7628">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► modes or does it have several buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► for all you don't even know yet I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:15 ◼ ► everything was very good the good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7635">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► is that the bad thing is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► not real buttons or sponge things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:20 ◼ ► screen it's hard to find if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7640">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► looking at the good thing is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► they don't have a good setup you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► just wait for the next software update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► and is a chance that they will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:26 ◼ ► whereas my buttons are never going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7646">TS</a>]
02:07:27 ◼ ► okay that's funny I don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7647">TS</a>]
02:07:32 ◼ ► interesting to see what you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7652">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► speaking of the climate control though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:38 ◼ ► is there an all mowed yes there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7658">TS</a>]
02:07:41 ◼ ► you're missing from the m5 know the m5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7661">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► had it it did the BMW 5-series hat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:47 ◼ ► the older 3-series have mined all modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7667">TS</a>]
02:07:50 ◼ ► yeah yours does the current 3 and 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7670">TS</a>]
02:07:52 ◼ ► series does not have an All button so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7672">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► with the current 3 and 4 series bmw's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7675">TS</a>]
02:07:57 ◼ ► you want to raise the temperature of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7677">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► whole car by one degree you have to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► two different knobs once i like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► of you know that the hurricane whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:05 ◼ ► marketing person came up with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:06 ◼ ► passenger driver split climate control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7686">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► and then front and rear split climate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:10 ◼ ► control the same person who came with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7690">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► non-smoking section and restaurants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► exactly here on the same error here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► the same air guys like there's a limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► right now you know someone could feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► better with warm air blowing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► first cold air blowing on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:20 ◼ ► line that's not a big space here on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7700">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► same car but it's just it's just crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:25 ◼ ► making to me that BMWs current 3 and 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7705">TS</a>]
02:08:28 ◼ ► yeah you know that that's worth that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7708">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► that's like a fallout of like so someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:31 ◼ ► came up with his marketing feature that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7711">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► they made people feel like it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► alright sounds good you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► always different temperatures missile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► fix things when really won't fix them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:38 ◼ ► and then on top of that to to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7718">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► Miss feature that's like not only did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► make the silly feature but even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► don't want it now has complications what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► used to be a simple thing right like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:47 ◼ ► you have to adjust temperature twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7727">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► equal time like that's crazy that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► why not just have single zone climate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7734">TS</a>]
02:08:55 ◼ ► control that point at my car is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7735">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► this is my first car to have dual zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7737">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► climate control my current is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► i mean if i could have bought it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► a window but it has come standard and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:05 ◼ ► annoys me because I say I never want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7745">TS</a>]
02:09:07 ◼ ► use it mostly because i'm usually only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7747">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► person driving the car and be the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► button for within honda it'sit's not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:14 ◼ ► all but it's a sync button basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7754">TS</a>]
02:09:15 ◼ ► someone sink is on everything you do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7755">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► the climate control affects the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► car which is how it should be all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:21 ◼ ► and when i go for other buttons on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7761">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► completely smooth seemingly featureless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:26 ◼ ► expanse of buttons that are defined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7766">TS</a>]
02:09:28 ◼ ► slices into the smooth featureless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7768">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► expanse you know are from wearing gloves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► were accidentally bumped the sync button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► and don't notice until like a day later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:36 ◼ ► when i realized i've been adjusting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7776">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► temperature just for quote unquote my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► side of the color and the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► the cars is still set to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► totally the wrong temperature and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► terrible i will tell you what though my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:49 ◼ ► Subaru was the first car I have a dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7789">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► zone climate and i love it because aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► is usually cold and i am usually warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7795">TS</a>]
02:10:03 ◼ ► however is the subaru did not have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7803">TS</a>]
02:10:08 ◼ ► dramatically when i bought the BMW if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7808">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► for no other reason than because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7811">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► All button because then I if I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► tend to micromanage lot more the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:17 ◼ ► anyway but anytime i adjust the air in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7817">TS</a>]
02:10:20 ◼ ► these in the BMW i just have to spin one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7820">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► little spinner one or two notches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:24 ◼ ► they're delightful little notches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7824">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► they're really crisp really well built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:28 ◼ ► really well done at as only the Germans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7828">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► and probably the Japanese can it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:34 ◼ ► much better that way but I there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7834">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► you could not pay me enough money to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:37 ◼ ► a car with one zone climate control that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7837">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► that is insanity to my eyes I guarantee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► you John of a problem with the knob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:44 ◼ ► oh i know but i would what I would kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7844">TS</a>]
02:10:47 ◼ ► for a knob is another downgrade of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7847">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► corner you have enough i have up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:50 ◼ ► down buttons huge up and down buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7850">TS</a>]
02:10:53 ◼ ► that are like and the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7853">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► things a little bit more of a division [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7855">TS</a>]
02:10:56 ◼ ► between them but like it's so clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7856">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► but like they designed these buttons to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:00 ◼ ► look nice and not to be distinguishable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7860">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► of all the things like I'm glad I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► knob for volume although honestly I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► steering wheel controls for mostly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:09 ◼ ► that which is not a knob but you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7869">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► knob for fan speed please instead that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:13 ◼ ► the worst that's like the arrow keys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7873">TS</a>]
02:11:15 ◼ ► the old Apple remember the old apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7875">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► keyboard layouts where they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:17 ◼ ► the inverted T even the half-size one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7877">TS</a>]
02:11:19 ◼ ► instead they had four keys next to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7879">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► other that was like yeah like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► microcosm and I have up-and-down fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► speed buttons is up on the left or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:31 ◼ ► down on the left that is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7891">TS</a>]
02:11:33 ◼ ► arbitrary because I have a picture of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7893">TS</a>]
02:11:35 ◼ ► head I don't even know which one it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7895">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► now but every time I got to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:38 ◼ ► it and fumble around figure it out i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdR6YlDs/7898">TS</a>]
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