The Incomparable

259: Summer Superhero Spectacular: Round 2

 

  the incomparable number 259 August 2015 [TS]

  we're back on the uncomfortable summer [TS]

  superhero spectacular we are in the [TS]

  second round we're going to take our [TS]

  collection 32 superheroes down to 16 in [TS]

  this round it's going to be very similar [TS]

  to the last round in the sense that we [TS]

  have to cool judges were going to decide [TS]

  the fates of the heroes in our star [TS]

  chamber today [TS]

  phillip michael is one of the judges [TS]

  hello Phillip Michaels hello and steve [TS]

  lets your other girl judge by Steve [TS]

  hello [TS]

  if the judges should not agree on a [TS]

  decision then I have some exciting news [TS]

  because you the listeners voted this is [TS]

  our commitment to democracy here at the [TS]

  incomparable if we can't decide then and [TS]

  only then will the people speak and the [TS]

  winner who will move on will be the [TS]

  result of your vote by reveal the [TS]

  results of your votes as we go as well [TS]

  as some choice comments from the votes [TS]

  given by uncomfortable listeners tonight [TS]

  I just want to say on behalf of the [TS]

  judges I think it's very smart of you to [TS]

  admit you're in competence and descend [TS]

  step aside and to leave Steven is the [TS]

  experts [TS]

  indeed indeed I i agree he and uh you [TS]

  know we will see so for this round this [TS]

  round up i think future and will be a [TS]

  little bit different but this round is [TS]

  gonna be similar to the last round a [TS]

  slight change this we want to keep it [TS]

  all positive in the first round and just [TS]

  talk about your own hero this time I [TS]

  like a a a brief recap of why your hero [TS]

  is good and then a little bit about why [TS]

  your hero is better than its opposition [TS]

  so a little more like better not [TS]

  throwing them on top of the positive not [TS]

  only not only are you know but it's not [TS]

  it's not about them it's about you but [TS]

  it might be about why you're better than [TS]

  that [TS]

  this is what this is the slight change [TS]

  in guidance i just want to come right [TS]

  out and say that no money has changed [TS]

  hands in advance of the judgments yeah [TS]

  you made in ya evening's broadcast but [TS]

  it's early raft no corruption of any [TS]

  kind cannot think of a worse way to [TS]

  spend your money [TS]

  yeah then to right-field the Bourbons in [TS]

  the mail and yeah it's not gonna get [TS]

  this in the mail it's leaking through [TS]

  the envelope that was really a bad way [TS]

  to say you know what it was cheap so let [TS]

  me introduce our are advocates and more [TS]

  as an advocate hello [TS]

  hello it's peeking through the envelope [TS]

  may wait two seconds [TS]

  Monty Ashley also advocate tonight howdy [TS]

  howdy Tony sindelar he'll be speaking [TS]

  for you know Batman spider-man people [TS]

  like that [TS]

  hi Tony help hello nerds Lisa Schmeisser [TS]

  takes on the downtrodden with many of [TS]

  her choices tonight but she's got a [TS]

  couple good ones to hi Lisa [TS]

  hi there chipset earth is also out there [TS]

  he's not Tony but he's here hi chip [TS]

  Oh God that did you just realize you're [TS]

  on the podcast uh-huh realize he's not [TS]

  Tony yeah i would help seven new [TS]

  advocates in this round philipose alack [TS]

  will be speaking for five heroes [TS]

  no Vito Vito no sound effects [TS]

  oh sorry but I was figure I was gonna be [TS]

  like Phil Michaels in just a little from [TS]

  music around little walk up in here [TS]

  defend I find against the new guy [TS]

  yeah kinda and also speaking on behalf [TS]

  of four heroes this evening is Shannon [TS]

  Sutter Shannon I left my keys [TS]

  who speaks for the trees Jason let's get [TS]

  going here is our first matchup the [TS]

  first matchup is number one seed [TS]

  spider-man advocated by Tony sindelar [TS]

  versus number eight seed Aquaman [TS]

  advocated by Monty Ashley I find for [TS]

  Aquaman thank you [TS]

  well how do you vote change of venue or [TS]

  we gonna do the thing where you guys [TS]

  advocate first you know what let's do [TS]

  that first [TS]

  Monty you're the lowest seed with the [TS]

  with Aquaman so why don't you go first [TS]

  well as the distinguished judges no [TS]

  doubt no Aquaman is a member [TS]

  both of the modern Justice League and [TS]

  there were talking about the big bearded [TS]

  hook for a hand grid Aquaman but he's [TS]

  also a member of the Superfriends and [TS]

  there of course we're talking about [TS]

  green panties or in shirt child-friendly [TS]

  Aquaman and I think it's important to [TS]

  realize that what you've got a character [TS]

  here who can span the whole gamut there [TS]

  he could work as a solo guy under the [TS]

  ocean fighting evil starfish or he could [TS]

  be part of the team part of the most [TS]

  important team in comic books and I both [TS]

  way for friend who say as opposed to my [TS]

  distinguished opponent spider-man he's [TS]

  been on the Avengers but he's a loner [TS]

  he's a one-note guy all you get with [TS]

  spider-man is web-slinging come on [TS]

  alright strong words they're from the [TS]

  Aquaman camp a Tony sindelar please talk [TS]

  about spider-man [TS]

  alright I will concede that Aquaman is a [TS]

  pretty solid hero [TS]

  I'm you know I'm a big fan of the flash [TS]

  in the flashpoint alternate universe he [TS]

  conquers a significantly large [TS]

  percentage of the known world so that's [TS]

  that's pretty cool it does happen in you [TS]

  know an alternate world [TS]

  did you know the main world but still [TS]

  but spider-man is in a class above [TS]

  uh-huh man spider-man is probably my [TS]

  favorite Marvel hero of all time he can [TS]

  do whatever a spider can [TS]

  and that that's a lot of he's also kind [TS]

  of i think the the first kind of [TS]

  superhero i read that is really a person [TS]

  like an actual living human breathing as [TS]

  opposed to kind of like a caricature uh [TS]

  who gets these powers and that the [TS]

  classic comic line that you know I think [TS]

  everyone remembers with great power [TS]

  comes great responsibility and he you [TS]

  know he is kind of a stand-in for [TS]

  probably a lot of adolescent comic book [TS]

  readers in that Jesus awkward nerdy [TS]

  person who you know is kind of an [TS]

  outcast and then he gets these powers [TS]

  and at first he thinks about how he's [TS]

  gonna make his life so much better but [TS]

  then it's about kind of how he can you [TS]

  can basically do service for the city of [TS]

  New York on the community in which he [TS]

  lives so you know I think spider-man [TS]

  adjust each he's in the top class of [TS]

  super heroes of all time also mentioned [TS]

  Aquaman I think advance to the round [TS]

  predicated on the knowledge that seventy [TS]

  percent of the world's surface is [TS]

  covered by water i did some research and [TS]

  I think that people would be interested [TS]

  to know that statistically you are [TS]

  always within three feet of a spider [TS]

  ok good strong scientists in strong [TS]

  science argument there and then before [TS]

  we go to the judges I will I will give [TS]

  you some information submitted to us by [TS]

  our listeners listeners is a strong word [TS]

  lists listeners in this category said [TS]

  things such as does whatever a spider [TS]

  can indeed spider-man change comics [TS]

  introducing the idea that these are real [TS]

  people with real problems happen to have [TS]

  powers another listener said is he [TS]

  strong listen hub he's got radioactive [TS]

  blub which is very nice [TS]

  another listener said hook for a hand [TS]

  strong argument another another Lister [TS]

  said seriously how did Aquaman move on [TS]

  he's way more lame than Hawkeye another [TS]

  listener said the problem with Aquaman [TS]

  is that everyone knows when he farts [TS]

  that sets a problem analysis water does [TS]

  cover a significant portion of the [TS]

  planet's surface whales can swing from [TS]

  buildings [TS]

  I don't understand that argument even [TS]

  though i think it's in my favor [TS]

  Aquaman is useless in the landmark city [TS]

  spider-man survive three terrible movies [TS]

  a feat few [TS]

  if any superheroes could match and [TS]

  Aquaman sucks i vote for not Aquaman so [TS]

  those are the arguments from our [TS]

  listeners now we go to the judges just a [TS]

  sense i would mention if the world is [TS]

  ever 70-percent spiders you're really [TS]

  going to need spice has no power over [TS]

  something I mean a man has power and so [TS]

  so let's move on to the judges [TS]

  Steve let's what are you thoughts i [TS]

  think the extra information from the [TS]

  peanut gallery is great it's good to [TS]

  have more data points to completely [TS]

  ignore stop sucking up to the audience [TS]

  Steve I as I said no money of any kind [TS]

  is gonna change hands before this [TS]

  evening's judgments [TS]

  ah Tony you point out that you're always [TS]

  within three feet of a spider however [TS]

  you failed point out that you yourself [TS]

  contain millions of water molecules [TS]

  within which potentially of Aquaman [TS]

  could make himself small enough he could [TS]

  swim around me that's all right I'm [TS]

  gonna be alright just walk away [TS]

  I'm not sure that's how I walk with [TS]

  Aquaman or documents power is an [TS]

  overwater his power is things that live [TS]

  in the water he didn't tackle and shrimp [TS]

  around in them if you're small enough [TS]

  technically true which that's true but [TS]

  through if he was if he was an aunt and [TS]

  Aquaman perhaps I Tony wisely mentioned [TS]

  that spider-man can do whatever a spider [TS]

  can and that is a lot what is that [TS]

  exactly that he can do that is whatever [TS]

  a spider can he can spin webs any size [TS]

  uh-huh yeah that's fascinating anything [TS]

  else he has radioactive blub the walls [TS]

  sticks to walls Tony stick something [TS]

  about catching thieves and whatnot [TS]

  yeah just like flies just likewise [TS]

  alright well because Tony apparently did [TS]

  the obvious homework that we gave last [TS]

  time right easy i even said blog because [TS]

  blood and Bob don't really ride so i'm [TS]

  leaning spider-man and and I'm gonna go [TS]

  spider-man what finally pushed me over [TS]

  the edge was the fact that Monty and his [TS]

  pro argument used the phrase green [TS]

  panties orange shirt child-friendly and [TS]

  that item that is a that is a step too [TS]

  far as architecture is gonna swing him [TS]

  for me it is spider-man film Aquaman [TS]

  Aquaman does whatever on aqua can I [TS]

  think not [TS]

  spider-man is the judgment alright [TS]

  spider-man is the ruling 20 from our [TS]

  judges and in fact from the people they [TS]

  voted by eighty percent eighty percent [TS]

  for spider-man spider-man will move on [TS]

  we move to our next our next matchup it [TS]

  is number five seed the silver surfer [TS]

  who will be argued by mr. philipose [TS]

  alack and the number four seed kitty [TS]

  pryde from the x-men argued by Monty [TS]

  actually Mo's you are the lower seed [TS]

  very slightly so you may go first please [TS]

  tell us about the Silver Surfer well [TS]

  first of all the silver surfers [TS]

  incredibly awesome because number one he [TS]

  saved his entire race by you know [TS]

  becoming the Herald of Galactus so his [TS]

  own self sacrifice should be married [TS]

  enough but then you take on the power [TS]

  cosmic which I mean really it's almost [TS]

  you know you can even measure it [TS]

  the guy can do almost anything then if [TS]

  we go into the real world you know i'll [TS]

  bring up the Fantastic Four movie [TS]

  because not even an actor could really [TS]

  play them they had to digitally put him [TS]

  in he's that powerful that you can't [TS]

  have somebody even a nic cage i play [TS]

  them so that's important i like that [TS]

  Nick Cage has become a unit of power [TS]

  using her [TS]

  it's one nic cage well I i gotta use to [TS]

  make I gotta kind of build my case [TS]

  because I got to use them again later [TS]

  huh [TS]

  he is also I you know look I have what [TS]

  can i say he's silver and he's got a [TS]

  surfboard everyone loves surfing in [TS]

  those who don't you know their land [TS]

  locked anyway but they all have that [TS]

  fascination now think about that taking [TS]

  surfing to a whole new level and going [TS]

  along the super skyways and spaceways [TS]

  and just looking for planets for [TS]

  Galactus to take now that seems on a [TS]

  whole a very nefarious thing but it was [TS]

  only until he found earth and then you [TS]

  know talk to that guy Richard you know [TS]

  what's going to do she but anyway [TS]

  but that's neither here nor there he's [TS]

  already out but you know and he said you [TS]

  know what I'm not gonna I'm not gonna [TS]

  have this planet go down [TS]

  that's my argument power cosmic and he's [TS]

  silver alright power cosmic silver both [TS]

  of those are facts [TS]

  Monty Ashley tell us about kitty pryde [TS]

  kitty pryde has saved the entire planet [TS]

  several times and she did it without [TS]

  having to become a lackey to an [TS]

  intergalactic monstrosity that helps [TS]

  we've seen her grow as a character which [TS]

  is strangely unusual for a medium like [TS]

  comics where you see the same character [TS]

  over decades she was introduced as a [TS]

  naive wave and she grew and learn from [TS]

  her experiences and ended up as a [TS]

  professor at professor X's school of [TS]

  mutant stuff and Jesus and now she's not [TS]

  only accredited institution the school [TS]

  for mutants who want to read and do [TS]

  other stuff good [TS]

  yes that she's constantly changing [TS]

  costumes and superhero names she gives [TS]

  you a lot to work with and i'll compare [TS]

  that to the Silver Surfer who's pretty [TS]

  much always been the same mopey space [TS]

  dude always look in the same always [TS]

  calling himself the same thing he hasn't [TS]

  even wear a costume just pretty much an [TS]

  outline of a guy and frankly surfing is [TS]

  only cool if there's danger involved [TS]

  call me with our space sharks that [TS]

  seriously i will come running [TS]

  there there are spaced sure we don't [TS]

  yeah I ok strong arguments there i will [TS]

  throw in a few choice comments from the [TS]

  listeners with what i heard a few that [TS]

  were teenage crush on I assume that's [TS]

  kitty pryde although you never know it [TS]

  could be a Silver Surfer pointing out [TS]

  the who else got a mention in weezer's [TS]

  in the garage quite possibly the most [TS]

  horrific nerd anthem of any generation [TS]

  silver surfer despite the name does not [TS]

  talk like Jeff Spicoli that was an [TS]

  argument [TS]

  Kitty has a purple pet dragon and then [TS]

  this one made me laugh out loud the [TS]

  kitty pryde is a grown-ass woman [TS]

  silver surfer is just a weirdo in some [TS]

  kind of silver bodysuit so that's some [TS]

  of the comments from the listener is [TS]

  about silver surfer not a lot of love [TS]

  there and Kitty Pryde Philip Michaels [TS]

  what is your ruling up a point of order [TS]

  yes sir does superserver have a uniform [TS]

  now that's his body is just over he just [TS]

  hangs like a guy on the top of a trophy [TS]

  second place I was writing the Oscar if [TS]

  we get we have a decided that wearing [TS]

  green hot pants and an orange shirt and [TS]

  saying come to me children is just a [TS]

  little bit creepy as we ruled in our [TS]

  previous decision then um naked silver [TS]

  man is not the kind of man i want saving [TS]

  my universe [TS]

  I rule in favor of Kitty Pryde alright [TS]

  Steve what's silver totally nude [TS]

  child-friendly so what is Silver Surfer [TS]

  actually do besides float around on his [TS]

  surfboard and kind of loaf well storm [TS]

  thorgerson wanted to do the artwork for [TS]

  Dark Side of the Moon and have the [TS]

  silver surfer on it [TS]

  so how has that sway you [TS]

  not I like a nice any of the cupboards i [TS]

  do but i am not to be swayed by album [TS]

  cover art although last time I pick [TS]

  Silver Surfer because he was on album [TS]

  cover art but not this time my friend at [TS]

  that time has passed you mr. windows [TS]

  court does not recognize the concept of [TS]

  President President Snow this time I too [TS]

  must run from the silver naked child [TS]

  friendly man with the power cosmic [TS]

  although I I must I must give you props [TS]

  for mentioning the Fantastic Four movie [TS]

  that takes some real gonads well drive [TS]

  its kitty pryde for me okay [TS]

  the the listeners a agree with the [TS]

  judges 65-percent for Kitty Pryde over [TS]

  the Silver Surfer she advances on to the [TS]

  next round let's move on [TS]

  here's a battle of low seeds that made [TS]

  it through as underdogs in the previous [TS]

  round now they must face each other beta [TS]

  ray bill the number 11 seed you may know [TS]

  miss horse Thor he's going to be argued [TS]

  by chipset earth again and Kate Bishop [TS]

  the only Hawkeye to remain in the [TS]

  tournament and she is going to be argued [TS]

  by dan moore and Dan k was the 14 seed [TS]

  going up against 11 you get to go first [TS]

  what is your thought about Kate bishop [TS]

  well my thoughts like a bishop are many [TS]

  increase including that she is far more [TS]

  competent than a thing Clint Barton in [TS]

  many ways in in the keeping the Hawkeye [TS]

  mantle as I believe one of our listeners [TS]

  pointed out when KP ship decides that [TS]

  she's had enough of Clint Barton's PS [TS]

  and and hightails it to la the pizza dog [TS]

  goes with her so in pizza dog as we all [TS]

  know has impeccable taste so it's hard [TS]

  to argue with that i will also point out [TS]

  that while beta ray bill who I mean is a [TS]

  horse is a horse skeleton-like I mean [TS]

  make up your mind dude [TS]

  well he may be better than Thor low bar [TS]

  low bar so yeah I stake there at the end [TS]

  chip what say you about beta ray bill [TS]

  well if it please the court as I said [TS]

  last time I risk losing my for indicate [TS]

  Bishop cosplayer if I win this one and [TS]

  yet I must in this matchup we have two [TS]

  adaptations of the original characters [TS]

  right Kate bishop is the second Hawkeye [TS]

  and she's got talent she's got attitude [TS]

  she's confident but she's just another [TS]

  Archer [TS]

  beta ray bill the second Thor is a [TS]

  half-horse like alien half killer cyborg [TS]

  with all of the power and worthiness of [TS]

  Thor this gives you two heroes for the [TS]

  price of one economy demands that beta [TS]

  ray bill win this matchup [TS]

  I would like to close in song for is a [TS]

  Thor of course of course and no one can [TS]

  lift his hammer of course except for a [TS]

  cyborg course of course the minding beta [TS]

  ray bill and beta ray bill before of [TS]

  course in issue 338 check the source a [TS]

  character i will always endorse [TS]

  victorious beta ray bill also no further [TS]

  questions your honor [TS]

  strong strong different events also rest [TS]

  and then here's some feedback from [TS]

  listeners we need that Hawkeye [TS]

  representation in this draft a real [TS]

  Hawkeye has to be too fake [TS]

  Thor horse tour is a horse [TS]

  archery is not a superpower he's worthy [TS]

  beta ray bill i reject the premise which [TS]

  is I had interesting they just don't [TS]

  like it at all you can do have to pick [TS]

  one case the ship is one of my favorite [TS]

  characters of all time based on the [TS]

  recent comics why doesn't she have a TV [TS]

  show and finally don't care neither one [TS]

  is Batman alright not wrong not wrong [TS]

  he's still what Steve whatwhat's what do [TS]

  you say I'm a little confused by dan's [TS]

  Kate Bishop argument his con against [TS]

  beta ray bill is that being better than [TS]

  Thor's an extremely low bar leap and yet [TS]

  his barrel work a bishop is better than [TS]

  clint barton creek also low bar couple [TS]

  100 clipart is is great i'm also [TS]

  concerned about piece created but I've [TS]

  not heard previously about pizza dog [TS]

  it's not why haven't you heard about [TS]

  pizza dog pizza is his business was [TS]

  pizza dominos here's all made out of [TS]

  pizza [TS]

  he's hot guys dog and he doesn't he [TS]

  really is the other kind of dog [TS]

  yeah I find it almost a miscarriage of [TS]

  justice that you did not lead with pizza [TS]

  dog which seems like Barry dog was a [TS]

  quick second [TS]

  the second point there I you know [TS]

  deployed pizza daughter like we should [TS]

  save those for the the animal sidekick [TS]

  draft [TS]

  yes good point on the subject of beta [TS]

  ray bill I'm not sure economy is a very [TS]

  exciting argument either although the [TS]

  song was nice [TS]

  yet I cannot be swayed by song i I'm a [TS]

  judge man do you think in the end I was [TS]

  ultimately swayed by a listener who [TS]

  pointed out the simple fact that horse [TS]

  tour is a horse he probably meant it as [TS]

  a con but i think it's pro I'm going [TS]

  beta ray bill [TS]

  all right Phil Michael what do you think [TS]

  mr. Morin years did you prepare a song i [TS]

  did I decide not to sing it because i [TS]

  want to spare you that indignity who [TS]

  like many of the readers I simply do not [TS]

  care about this matchup [TS]

  okay yeah yet when a man where when a [TS]

  man sings and and expresses in song what [TS]

  is in all our hearts III cannot ignore [TS]

  that my judgment is for beta ray bill [TS]

  alright well then that doesn't [TS]

  miscarriage of justice does it say that [TS]

  is a two-nothing ruling for beta ray [TS]

  bill i will say that this is the first [TS]

  case where our judges have gone against [TS]

  the views of the listeners who voted 61 [TS]

  percent for Kate bishop is Hawkeye dan [TS]

  that and all the masses are asses dad [TS]

  into dollars wanted working dollars our [TS]

  listeners are extremely drunk [TS]

  yes the listeners are the drunk yes [TS]

  that's right we are also listening right [TS]

  now let's move on to the next round we [TS]

  have number 10 seed Wally West one of [TS]

  the two flashes to move on to the second [TS]

  round [TS]

  Sonny lashes he Wally West will be ready [TS]

  by chip he's going up against number two [TS]

  seed captain america who will be argued [TS]

  by Dan chip you may go first please go [TS]

  ahead [TS]

  Wally West if it please the court I do [TS]

  not have a song it does not please the [TS]

  court cygwin now Wally West Wally West [TS]

  he is the app says justice remains [TS]

  impassive I'll allow it if it please the [TS]

  court [TS]

  i'm at a great disadvantage against my [TS]

  opponent counselor not chip for i feel i [TS]

  am attacking the very flag of the United [TS]

  States but Wally West is the greatest is [TS]

  the greater hero because of all of the [TS]

  odds that were against him both in the [TS]

  real world marketplace in the DC [TS]

  Universe he was the difficult second [TS]

  album he replaced a legendary character [TS]

  and for much of that time he did so with [TS]

  like half the power he just couldn't run [TS]

  as fast but he made up for it with [TS]

  attitude i refer the court to the [TS]

  Justice League and Justice League [TS]

  Unlimited animated series where he [TS]

  brought humor to an otherwise grim and [TS]

  frowny team and speaking of grim and [TS]

  frowny well in a moment I will be able [TS]

  to Florida mr. sindelar whose client [TS]

  isn't exactly the life of the party but [TS]

  first let me point out that the [TS]

  lightning bolts sticking out of the [TS]

  flashes cowl beat Captain America's [TS]

  little winglets any day [TS]

  Tony you give this one to Dan right yeah [TS]

  unfortunately to your argonaut tony [TS]

  robbins have Tony instead ship arguments [TS]

  were miscalculate i was confused when [TS]

  you're attempting to bread and it's not [TS]

  like that's absolutely addictive against [TS]

  the wrong this it is it is no one said [TS]

  we had to be accurate in arguments i [TS]

  really should have taken paid more [TS]

  attention in public defender school [TS]

  yeah dan what are your thoughts about [TS]

  Captain America well captain america in [TS]

  america is obviously the name so you can [TS]

  just sort of dispense with that right i [TS]

  think was more important here is Steve [TS]

  Rogers and Steve Rogers he's just an [TS]

  ordinary guy he's like any of us you [TS]

  know he's kinda gets pushed around a lot [TS]

  you know he's sort of against sort of a [TS]

  nerd and he but he's a good-hearted guy [TS]

  and I and I think that you know that [TS]

  shows through despite the fact that you [TS]

  know he's given superpowers he still [TS]

  maintains that integrity and that that [TS]

  heart that you know embodies what we [TS]

  think of as the best of the American [TS]

  spirit I always really enjoyed the fact [TS]

  that his his weapon if you can even call [TS]

  that is really just a shield like I mean [TS]

  because you know it's sure you can you [TS]

  can beat the crap out of swim with a [TS]

  shield but like you know he doesn't need [TS]

  guns he doesn't need you know oh fancy [TS]

  hammer [TS]

  he's just he's got he's all about the [TS]

  defense you know and i think that's [TS]

  that's an important lesson for hero [TS]

  and is as far as my my distinguished [TS]

  opponent goes I'm second to none in my [TS]

  admiration from wally west except to say [TS]

  that he's not Barry Allen all right from [TS]

  the listeners we have a an argument for [TS]

  Captain America as the unfrozen caveman [TS]

  superhero defender of the weak somehow [TS]

  manages to be idealistic without being [TS]

  totally dumb and jingoistic he punched [TS]

  Hitler in the face strong argument about [TS]

  Wally West they say this is the wrong [TS]

  flash but somebody else agrees and says [TS]

  well he's the best flash and finally one [TS]

  listener wrote not bury should have [TS]

  picked a new name [TS]

  that's the comments from the listeners [TS]

  of Philip Michaels what are your [TS]

  thoughts about the flash and Captain [TS]

  America I am enraged by the listener who [TS]

  says that it's the wrong flash there's [TS]

  no such thing as a wrong flash sir all [TS]

  the flashes are equally it's not my [TS]

  child protective services told me not [TS]

  chip mentions that captain america is [TS]

  just like us [TS]

  I don't recall shooting myself full of [TS]

  super serum to gain superpowers and not [TS]

  not damn brings up an interesting point [TS]

  when he mentions the justice league [TS]

  cartoon because that was a rough slog [TS]

  safe for the comic relief brought to us [TS]

  by Wally West the greatest of all [TS]

  flashes I rule in favor of the flash [TS]

  Wally West Steve yeah I don't know [TS]

  ordinary guy all about the defense [TS]

  doesn't really inspire me when Captain [TS]

  America is concerned and bring humor to [TS]

  agreement for any team that I can relate [TS]

  to more than more than being a guy who [TS]

  wields shield and hmm and yet chip did [TS]

  it he attacked man's little winglets [TS]

  that's stone cold dude it's not his [TS]

  fault extremely small his costume was [TS]

  just born that way he was frozen for [TS]

  years there's gonna be shrinkage you [TS]

  understand he does what he can with [TS]

  those little winglets he tries his best [TS]

  you know just you know he's got a little [TS]

  bit [TS]

  it's stop the size of the winglets it's [TS]

  the motion of the flapping but lightning [TS]

  bolts come on I'm going captain america [TS]

  oh we have a split between our judges [TS]

  this was one of the four most lopsided [TS]

  votes on the listeners accounts they [TS]

  voted eighty-one percent in favor of [TS]

  Captain America whose on to the next [TS]

  round [TS]

  not a lot of love for the land the [TS]

  people have spoken which flash Steve got [TS]

  another one making a spread the love [TS]

  around split splitting the flash vote [TS]

  that's always tough yeah it's it is you [TS]

  don't want to get I am writing angry [TS]

  descent as I ok you're right now [TS]

  Thank You Justice Scalia we're gonna [TS]

  move on to the next region number one [TS]

  seed in this region whole it is your [TS]

  Superman yeah tópico whoo [TS]

  Superman for top seed in this region [TS]

  will be ready but Lisa going up against [TS]

  the number 9 seed underdog the Falcon [TS]

  argued by Shannon Shannon you are the [TS]

  underdogs you get to go first tell us [TS]

  about the Falcon ok Sam Wilson the [TS]

  Falcon is the first African American [TS]

  superhero in mainstream comics and if [TS]

  that isn't enough for you [TS]

  he's also the first community organizer [TS]

  who manages to escape the red skull in [TS]

  his origin story and stays to help teach [TS]

  the island population how to defend [TS]

  themselves against their evil overlords [TS]

  this man has social justice warrior [TS]

  written into his DNA long before hooking [TS]

  up with Captain America in order to [TS]

  learn how to deliver a punch as well as [TS]

  a message and then he gets solar powered [TS]

  jet propulsion wings and he can [TS]

  psychically linked up with birds from [TS]

  around the globe and use their eyes for [TS]

  surveillance even get their help at [TS]

  times and he become such a pivotal [TS]

  member of the Avengers that when the [TS]

  time comes he is the one chosen to step [TS]

  into Captain America's boots and finally [TS]

  I give you Anthony Mackay bringing the [TS]

  Falcon to life with the perfect balance [TS]

  of baggage and swagger that makes even a [TS]

  decent portrayal of the mighty man of [TS]

  steel seem like a glass of milk compared [TS]

  to a fine bourbon with a carabao [TS]

  aftertaste [TS]

  alright and Lisa Superman I feel like [TS]

  mentioning bourbon is a blatant attempt [TS]

  to pan at least one of the judges [TS]

  nevertheless credit for pandering right [TS]

  Molly to notice Superman is awesome [TS]

  because he represents the best of [TS]

  humanity since he has deliberately [TS]

  chosen to embrace humanity [TS]

  he's always aware of how alien he is and [TS]

  he's chosen instead to take that which [TS]

  has made him alien and use it to try to [TS]

  forge a connection to his adopted world [TS]

  and people and to selflessly serve them [TS]

  it's easy to think of Superman is being [TS]

  too perfect but we should focus on [TS]

  instead is the isolation at the beating [TS]

  heart of his character and how he [TS]

  carries out isolation constantly his [TS]

  entire life as an effort to connect with [TS]

  the people he's not of or from in a [TS]

  place he's not of or from any shoulders [TS]

  responsibilities he doesn't have to in [TS]

  the name of trying to forge a simple [TS]

  person to person connection so his [TS]

  appeal doesn't come from his protection [TS]

  but from the struggle that he silently [TS]

  lives and never complains about while [TS]

  you're Batman's all you killed my [TS]

  parents um a creature of the night I [TS]

  feel with the limitations of humanity [TS]

  Superman is all well you guys have [TS]

  limits minor slightly pastors I'll [TS]

  bridge that difference [TS]

  he's awesome because he hides in plain [TS]

  sight as Clark Kent and it's a burden to [TS]

  love something as much as human Superman [TS]

  loves humanity and to be so sure that [TS]

  you can't be wholly loved back that you [TS]

  have to split the best parts yourself [TS]

  into two different conflicting [TS]

  identities and finally the thing that [TS]

  makes him so powerful is he always [TS]

  chooses to do what's right over doing [TS]

  what's easy or what or what easily [TS]

  within his grasp his strength of [TS]

  character is far far stronger than any [TS]

  physical street could be and it's [TS]

  inspiring because it comes from somebody [TS]

  who will always be a stranger in a [TS]

  strange land is quintessentially [TS]

  American is the quintessential immigrant [TS]

  story he's he's an American in that he [TS]

  loves America he protects the nation of [TS]

  opportunity and he'll never be fully [TS]

  embraced by the people he so desperately [TS]

  wants to become one of all right thank [TS]

  you Lisa at one point there i got a [TS]

  little confused about why Batman was [TS]

  suddenly in there but you know you don't [TS]

  have a little i was i was uncomfortable [TS]

  a little italy anti-ban sentiment thrown [TS]

  it [TS]

  ok so the leaders are hiring hear some [TS]

  comments from the listeners I hate [TS]

  Superman Superman is boring [TS]

  also we heard I'm not Superman fan but [TS]

  isn't the Falcon just a guy with a [TS]

  jetpack that some several people pointed [TS]

  out that in the latest Marvel really [TS]

  Scott development is happening yet pack [TS]

  the balconies beaten by ant-man voting [TS]

  against Superman would be like cursing [TS]

  God because you don't have come because [TS]

  you at the uncomfortable don't have [TS]

  conversations about Christian symbolism [TS]

  about the Falcon and if you did no one [TS]

  would care and finally what I don't care [TS]

  and finally I don't care neither of them [TS]

  is Batman judges Steve what do you think [TS]

  well noted that the Falcon is the first [TS]

  african american hero that's that's [TS]

  worth something [TS]

  although my strict oath of office [TS]

  prevents me from being influenced by [TS]

  that that said he is a badass i do like [TS]

  the Falcon quite a bit i note that [TS]

  neither side in this argument shows to [TS]

  present much of a con argument with the [TS]

  exception of Lisa Schmeisser who [TS]

  actually presented a con argument for [TS]

  Batman that seems a bit mod hmm that's [TS]

  something that's a strange bit of [TS]

  misdirection it's kind of messed with my [TS]

  head [TS]

  but still Falcon is just a bit too much [TS]

  of an underdog in this one that I have [TS]

  to go Superman right Phil the one girl [TS]

  raises some interesting facts which one [TS]

  but the other girl raises some [TS]

  interesting points there was mention of [TS]

  bourbon there was an unwarranted attack [TS]

  on Batman Christopher Reeve once yelled [TS]

  at me I'm going to go with Falcon wow [TS]

  alright we do there was a tally there [TS]

  and in the end it just was a little bit [TS]

  on Falcon side so we have to leave this [TS]

  to the to the listeners this is not one [TS]

  of the biggest margins surprisingly but [TS]

  the listeners did vote by 68% to move [TS]

  Superman the favorite through Superman [TS]

  moves on the on the vote of the [TS]

  listeners on to the next round but well [TS]

  thought by the Falcon I think we're [TS]

  going to move on to the next round now a [TS]

  really tight matchup between number five [TS]

  seed Doctor Strange will be argued by [TS]

  Shannon and number four seed the tick [TS]

  who will be argued by Dan Shannon Doctor [TS]

  Strange slight underdog to the tick here [TS]

  you may go first tell us about dr. [TS]

  strange [TS]

  ok on the one hand Doctor Strange is a [TS]

  perfect example of redemption he's an [TS]

  egotistical neurosurgeon he loses the [TS]

  necessary iron control of his hands to [TS]

  nerve damage in a car accident and sets [TS]

  off on a quest for a Cure moving into [TS]

  more esoteric territory all the time his [TS]

  superhero potential is born when he [TS]

  rescues a mystic grew from an [TS]

  assassination attempt by his disciple [TS]

  and goes on to apply his towering [TS]

  intellect to the secrets of sorcery and [TS]

  use his knowledge to fight evil [TS]

  on the other hand dr. strange presides [TS]

  over a setting that is marvel comics to [TS]

  the extreme dazzlingly surreal and a [TS]

  glorious mismatch of every known angle [TS]

  of legendary magic and mythology even [TS]

  for a universe where Norse gods walk [TS]

  around having shawarma and flinging [TS]

  coffee mugs Doctor Strange stands apart [TS]

  as he invokes his mystic powers and yet [TS]

  he makes with the best of Marvel [TS]

  punishing himself everytime he must [TS]

  resort to black magic [TS]

  in order to do good and uh honestly when [TS]

  it comes to my opponent the intellect [TS]

  for me wins every time a big blue and [TS]

  dreadfully misusing his one power of [TS]

  oratory doesn't work for me [TS]

  so finally when you can get someone like [TS]

  Benedict Cumberbatch to play you and [TS]

  your very own major motion picture in [TS]

  spite of your very cemeteries cloak of [TS]

  levitation and a wonderful to your [TS]

  commanding respect from somewhere [TS]

  alright Dan the tick the tick indeed 6 [TS]

  foot 6 230 pounds with a super strength [TS]

  and let's not forget he's not [TS]

  invulnerable the ticket is is pretty [TS]

  much one of the best superheroes ever [TS]

  and and that to me relies on sort of [TS]

  just his the childlike wonder which he [TS]

  sees the world because there is nothing [TS]

  that the tick cannot find some manner of [TS]

  joy in to my mind personally you know [TS]

  he's he's it proved himself to be a [TS]

  superhero that hasn't ability to get [TS]

  along with other superheroes whether it [TS]

  be his sidekick arthur or the variety of [TS]

  other superheroes that he meets in his [TS]

  in his various adventures including a [TS]

  deflator mouse and American need and so [TS]

  i have to say that my personal favorite [TS]

  thing I mean a that when it comes down [TS]

  to the tickets [TS]

  how can you really argue with a guy [TS]

  who's battle cry is spoon [TS]

  I mean to me that just sends it up and [TS]

  as for dr. dr. strange well he's no [TS]

  doctor fate is all I'm saying [TS]

  alright i will have a few notes from the [TS]

  list is to share here on the the ledger [TS]

  for Doctor Strange we hear mustache is [TS]

  greater than spoon also dr. strange [TS]

  understands that it is not the spoon [TS]

  that bends it is only yourself the [TS]

  matrix cross over there several people [TS]

  wrote in to say spoon also because the [TS]

  tick is Jason's favorite that's and [TS]

  there may be some truth in that [TS]

  and finally this parody of a tournament [TS]

  needs a parody for its champion and [TS]

  sorcerer supreme [TS]

  name sounds like a menu item served at [TS]

  taco bell [TS]

  alright how about an argument for or [TS]

  against him I I leave that up to the to [TS]

  the judges and everyone else to think [TS]

  about in their hearts [TS]

  Steve what what do you think I think [TS]

  sorcerer supreme we probably contain [TS]

  ground beef [TS]

  maybe some cheese gotta talk about [TS]

  lettuce [TS]

  yeah and either a corn tortilla or a or [TS]

  a flour tortilla [TS]

  well that's the sorcerer but then if you [TS]

  add the sour cream and guacamole becomes [TS]

  a sorcerer supreme we gotta get on it in [TS]

  something literally everything at taco [TS]

  bell is made into the same ingredients [TS]

  kangaroo meat sounds delicious though I [TS]

  listen the the word picture that Shannon [TS]

  painted there was gorgeous i am very [TS]

  impressed with her her advocacy for dr. [TS]

  strange i like his quest for redemption [TS]

  i like the hero whose whose intellect is [TS]

  emphasized over potentially you know [TS]

  brute strength [TS]

  although getting Benedict Cumberbatch to [TS]

  play him isn't really much of a point in [TS]

  his favor since you can get frankly [TS]

  Benedict Cumberbatch to play a summer [TS]

  squash that DoublePlay anything the tix [TS]

  strength [TS]

  interestingly is somewhat the opposite [TS]

  of intellect childlike wonder he finds [TS]

  joy in things which i think is great [TS]

  although i think dad could have earned [TS]

  some extra points if finding joy in all [TS]

  things he had not presented a con [TS]

  instead of taking the low blow about dr. [TS]

  fate ultimately my love taco bell has to [TS]

  point me in the direction of dr. street [TS]

  right that that's a sentence we've all [TS]

  heard a million yeah that that wanders [TS]

  comment really back my like what happens [TS]

  when you eat taco bell [TS]

  okay well like Steve I was moved by [TS]

  shannons argument however the tick has [TS]

  brought me so much pleasure over the [TS]

  years but the animated series be at the [TS]

  live-action series Doctor Strange i just [TS]

  learned of his existence five minutes [TS]

  ago [TS]

  that's weird because he went through on [TS]

  a previous round of this very tournament [TS]

  where we do violence don't listen Rex [TS]

  you know I don't like barely remember [TS]

  your name [TS]

  well let that's going around tonight I [TS]

  think that it will have to be to tick [TS]

  the tick now to take forever [TS]

  well I i love the tick dearly as well [TS]

  unfortunately the listeners do not share [TS]

  my view the doctor listeners are jerks [TS]

  the doctor strange i agree Phil blisters [TS]

  are jerks at least fifty nine percent of [TS]

  them who voted for dr. 99% of you she [TS]

  loves the tick tread I demand a recount [TS]

  all right that was a hard fought hard [TS]

  but I was certain that would go the [TS]

  other way [TS]

  yeah may I approach the bench sir I'm [TS]

  gonna go sulk in my tent like some guy [TS]

  from Chile in the previous two rounds [TS]

  advocacy and Siddharth has expert has [TS]

  advocated on behalf of her characters [TS]

  based in part on how hot she thinks they [TS]

  are as her husband i'm feeling [TS]

  inadequate night must request that you [TS]

  enjoyed her [TS]

  hey you have your list too dude I'll do [TS]

  no such things are [TS]

  please return to your seat type i will [TS]

  not enjoy her because I don't find them [TS]

  particularly hot just chips without if [TS]

  you do some pull-ups well your podcast [TS]

  yeah that's all maybe hang out with some [TS]

  radioactive insects ya never know what a [TS]

  jetpack chip get a jack to step to [TS]

  practice that Lauren green impression [TS]

  that I hear you when you are three feet [TS]

  from a spider right now the power is in [TS]

  your hands the walls are talking this is [TS]

  the most concentrated relationship [TS]

  advice I've ever received the world with [TS]

  our everywhere not just extremely itchy [TS]

  spider bite something that moving onto [TS]

  the shirt all our next match up we have [TS]

  number 11 the Invisible Woman Sue Storm [TS]

  Richards who's gonna be advocated by [TS]

  Lisa against number three the flash this [TS]

  flash is the Barry Allen flash will be [TS]

  argued by Tony Lisa please tell us about [TS]

  the invisible woman you could argue of [TS]

  course that she deserves to go to the [TS]

  next round because the world the woman [TS]

  deserves something after years of being [TS]

  married to read Richards [TS]

  preventing him from taking over the [TS]

  world through someone's got guided [TS]

  paternalistic but science sooo scheme [TS]

  that he's come up with because if we've [TS]

  established anything it's that Reed [TS]

  Richards is a jerk [TS]

  however the real reason that Sue Storm [TS]

  rocks the house is because she has of [TS]

  course hard to become invisible which is [TS]

  incredibly useful from a tactical [TS]

  perspective [TS]

  she's got an invisible force field which [TS]

  can be used for both offensive and [TS]

  defensive capabilities and again I want [TS]

  to stress invisible so a very potent [TS]

  especially in battles with alien races [TS]

  but the real reason that she did she's [TS]

  right she should be correctly regarded [TS]

  as one of the heavy hitters in marble is [TS]

  her tremendous strength of character [TS]

  she's the beating heart of the fantastic [TS]

  for family and she's unswervingly [TS]

  dedicated to protecting the weak and [TS]

  creating a more just world that's a lot [TS]

  of yourself to give to two very big very [TS]

  fractious causes and most of the time [TS]

  soon holds herself to really rigorous [TS]

  ethical standard she argue those [TS]

  standards she's on argue them with and [TS]

  against the x-men she's arguing with and [TS]

  against very offenders she's even like [TS]

  left her husband at at times when she [TS]

  thought he said she thought he was out [TS]

  of hand and she's also resisted the [TS]

  advances of name or four decades upon [TS]

  decades now which is kind of difficult [TS]

  because he's basically the ryan lochte [TS]

  of Atlantis he could give her kingdoms [TS]

  and add that she could grate cheese on [TS]

  and the quality of not being read [TS]

  Richard and she always resist this to [TS]

  fight the good fight on the land [TS]

  um you know sue fights to hold thinks [TS]

  things through constantly instead of [TS]

  reacting emotionally and instinctively [TS]

  which is a surprisingly rare quality in [TS]

  the Marvel Universe she's basically [TS]

  Aristotelian she's the golden mean in in [TS]

  her morals or ethics and her actions and [TS]

  it could almost be said that her real [TS]

  superpower is is being invisible for [TS]

  that her brand of selfless leadership [TS]

  helps other people thrive [TS]

  alright thank you Lisa Tony tell us [TS]

  about Barry Allen the flash so you know [TS]

  I I don't have anything against the [TS]

  invisible woman um you know I kind of [TS]

  feel like I mean I kind of feel like [TS]

  they gave out the really cool powers in [TS]

  the Fantastic Four first and then [TS]

  carjacked [TS]

  what stuff for her and they're like well [TS]

  invisibility is not enough [TS]

  so how about you get to do force fields [TS]

  and psychic waves and stuff and you know [TS]

  I I feel like they didn't really give [TS]

  her a fair shake and basically her [TS]

  greatest superpower is that she can [TS]

  tolerate Reed Richards um and yeah okay [TS]

  I feel like this I feel like but I feel [TS]

  like all these superhero around [TS]

  definitely do dinner into let's talk [TS]

  about how much we can't read richards [TS]

  and indian taco is very very angry [TS]

  out-there so you will be judged by the [TS]

  company you bleep please please please [TS]

  continue please tell us some about more [TS]

  about the flash Tony the flash well [TS]

  specifically Barry Allen uh who is [TS]

  lovable he's fun he's another one of [TS]

  these boy scout superheroes but I feel [TS]

  like his his version of the boys got [TS]

  superheroes a little bit more noble and [TS]

  an altruistic than even Superman mean [TS]

  like you know it's a little bit easier [TS]

  to always do the right thing when you're [TS]

  literally invincible and all-powerful [TS]

  and you know the flash is certainly very [TS]

  powerful superhero but he has he has [TS]

  some limitations and he you know he [TS]

  feels pain for example in a lot of the [TS]

  iterations um I have been a devoted [TS]

  follower of the Church of Batman for a [TS]

  long time but in the last year i have i [TS]

  have left the flash into my heart [TS]

  through the flash TV series and i also [TS]

  read a lot of flash comics and in the [TS]

  last year and Barry Allen is just is [TS]

  really great i really like his sense of [TS]

  humor up because usually a sense of [TS]

  humor in a comic book hero is like that [TS]

  the Jackass antihero sense of humor [TS]

  sorry Lobo and Deadpool and those guys [TS]

  but I don't really care for you and [TS]

  Barry Allen is is kind of just fun and [TS]

  light-hearted and humorous and just a [TS]

  sincere great hero who I just think he's [TS]

  just a nice guy I want him to win [TS]

  everything he does [TS]

  alright our listeners echoed some of [TS]

  what Lisa said about superpower of [TS]

  living with mr. fantastic and ability to [TS]

  tolerate name what 11 pointed note from [TS]

  a listener said i have no need for the [TS]

  flash and and another mr. making citing [TS]

  the very strong our actor argument that [TS]

  grant grant gustin is greater than [TS]

  jessica alba which you know pulling out [TS]

  just call but strong actor comparisons [TS]

  get tricky [TS]

  yeah i also mentioned it within the [TS]

  Justice League animated series the flash [TS]

  in that version is called Wally West but [TS]

  I feel I mean it's clearly [TS]

  like an amalgamated version because he's [TS]

  kind of I would say he's more of a Barry [TS]

  Allen flash than even though the [TS]

  character is Wally West alright let's go [TS]

  to the judges on this [TS]

  ah Phil what do you say this has been [TS]

  the most troubling debate that I've [TS]

  heard thus far tonight with the [TS]

  exception of the shots at Reed Richards [TS]

  which are fantastic and I helped us keep [TS]

  coming throughout the evening [TS]

  um wish miser fails to say one negative [TS]

  word about a Barry Allen despite this [TS]

  being one of the requirements of the [TS]

  round 11 wonders if she was protecting [TS]

  her sweet podcast corner of the earth [TS]

  there's this brandon to consider got [TS]

  really doing that on the other hand the [TS]

  other guy said some things and kind of [TS]

  backhanded stuff about c-store kinda [TS]

  tough tough tough call i am going to [TS]

  help ya church is the Church of Batman [TS]

  he's the the church of the flash pic [TS]

  aside sir [TS]

  there can only be one has decided [TS]

  justice a league from this is a [TS]

  polytheist what you want [TS]

  yeah why you can't be a polytheist in [TS]

  the DC Universe yeah i mean there are [TS]

  literally said well on that note that [TS]

  it's it's a lisa has defended her [TS]

  opponent I rule in favor of Barry Allen [TS]

  alright almost fried you brought against [TS]

  me twice in one night Michaels one [TS]

  letter in separate rooms you may have to [TS]

  stay there I see what are your rulings [TS]

  well it seems like a lot of the argument [TS]

  in favor of invisible girl woman yes [TS]

  he's lying he's a silent is based on the [TS]

  fact that we should pity her [TS]

  I believe that's invisible girl you'll [TS]

  be an invisible woman soon [TS]

  yeah uh however piss poor judgment and [TS]

  husbands does not earn one extra [TS]

  consideration as you wish my eyes are no [TS]

  doubt aware [TS]

  yeah i think i'd say about this judge [TS]

  fite can begin the judges rule against [TS]

  each other [TS]

  I cannot be swayed to pity Sue Storm [TS]

  Richards based entirely on that I [TS]

  however what does sway me to pity her is [TS]

  I is is mr. single argument that the [TS]

  character was not given a fair shake [TS]

  with her powers which is rich coming [TS]

  from somebody who is advocating a [TS]

  character whose entire power is he's [TS]

  real fast so i have to go with Sue Storm [TS]

  Richards as a as a minor pity vote okay [TS]

  well that that that splits the judges [TS]

  and leads to the the people's voice [TS]

  being heard the people in the closest [TS]

  vote of all of the matchups the people [TS]

  it wasn't that close it was still 15 57% [TS]

  for Barry Allen as the flash [TS]

  wow the flash moves on to the next round [TS]

  that was that hasn't been stealing I [TS]

  mean that it's TV if Susan long shower [TS]

  of to be and lash and the negative power [TS]

  of jessica allbutt perhaps we we move on [TS]

  to number seven ghost rider who's going [TS]

  to be argued by films lack versus number [TS]

  to the Hulk will be on argued by Monty [TS]

  actually Mo's you may go first tell us [TS]

  about ghost rider first of all it would [TS]

  seem that I am the underdog in this but [TS]

  I'm really not because I will actually [TS]

  again use the cage defense [TS]

  in saying that any actor who has played [TS]

  the whole [TS]

  has never gotten an Oscar [TS]

  Oh Nick Cage has oh look at that [TS]

  so I'm going to nullify that right there [TS]

  first of all ghost rider is a motorcycle [TS]

  hero immortalized by song by The Suicide [TS]

  been remade by henry rollins he's got an [TS]

  iconic look you look at ghost rider and [TS]

  you see this guy on fire with a skull [TS]

  just completely ablaze [TS]

  it's awesome The Hulk is a war is it [TS]

  just a boring rage slog purple pants [TS]

  really come on let's get real and I you [TS]

  know [TS]

  Nick Cage i'm still pull it out I mean [TS]

  he's got he's the best actor of all the [TS]

  actors that have played up with that guy [TS]

  at the green guy [TS]

  that's in all right interesting argument [TS]

  there we're going to move to your [TS]

  counterpart mr. Monty Ashley to talk [TS]

  about that green guy the Hulk Monty [TS]

  thank you Jason first i will remind the [TS]

  judges Hulk of course smash at but not [TS]

  only does Hulk smash Hulk think remember [TS]

  haha [TS]

  Hulk isn't just the strongest creature [TS]

  in the universe [TS]

  he also turned into a puny super smart [TS]

  scientists sometimes that's fun and [TS]

  sometimes Hulk is both strong and smart [TS]

  because they get look to be honest i'm [TS]

  making my argument as weak as possible [TS]

  because i don't want hope to smash up [TS]

  puny little motorcycle man i feel bad [TS]

  for puny little motorcycle man he's a [TS]

  demon he can he outlived the Hulk any [TS]

  day of the week sorry I'm sorry [TS]

  order order Albert will not be tolerated [TS]

  no no no thatthat's right as the hoax [TS]

  advocate i am fully aware of the [TS]

  importance of giving vent to whatever [TS]

  momentary rages in conclusion there was [TS]

  a time when heart ghostrider burn there [TS]

  was a time when the Hulk went off to a [TS]

  separate planet because he'd smashed up [TS]

  everything on this planet and on that [TS]

  other planet he smashed up everything [TS]

  there [TS]

  ghost rider on the other hand is Ghost [TS]

  Rider [TS]

  alright well good really really busted [TS]

  out the technologies early on that was [TS]

  wrong that was strong master [TS]

  technologies Lister said Mark Ruffalo [TS]

  greater than nicolas cage [TS]

  Hulk smash don't care neither is Batman [TS]

  this is a running theme and Hulk [TS]

  represents the struggle of our inner [TS]

  demons ghostwriters a man with a burning [TS]

  skull on a motorcycle so there you go i [TS]

  take that for what it's worth Steve [TS]

  ghostwrite it represents the inner [TS]

  struggle how hard it is to get [TS]

  motorcycle insurance when you're playing [TS]

  sculpt a deal is not [TS]

  yeah wow I I sense that these two [TS]

  advocates went to the same law school [TS]

  they've been my face and enemies for a [TS]

  long time [TS]

  mmm well it's interesting to go with the [TS]

  cage defense i agree i mean it's it's [TS]

  it's irrefutable fact that cage has an [TS]

  Oscar it is also irrefutable fact that [TS]

  not the bees not the base coach that [TS]

  said Owen and I also I don't take kindly [TS]

  as the owner of several pair of purple [TS]

  pants to your your your anti purple [TS]

  pants bias i advocate were against Lee [TS]

  the orange job shirt and the yeah and [TS]

  the green pants but neither of these [TS]

  things are really going to play into my [TS]

  my ultimate decision [TS]

  the thing that will play into my [TS]

  ultimate decision in the end is the fact [TS]

  that the Hulk [TS]

  well that's fun that's fun [TS]

  Hulk is fun I'm swayed by that argument [TS]

  i'm going to the Hulk all right Phil [TS]

  what do you say I wish to focus on this [TS]

  actor argument [TS]

  mackage yes has won an Oscar eat that [TS]

  before he was reduced reduced mind you [TS]

  two playing ghost writer have other [TS]

  actors is Nick Cage better than other [TS]

  actors who played hope I point you to [TS]

  build big speed start in clambake with [TS]

  Elvis Presley right Paige has not been [TS]

  Elvis Presley movie decay just a poor [TS]

  imitation of Elvis Presley in many [TS]

  movies the judgment here is for the [TS]

  whole that's two nothing for the whole [TS]

  point out a 2015 oscar-nominee although [TS]

  we didn't win mark ruffalo so at most [TS]

  Hulk the Hulk got eighty-five percent of [TS]

  the popular vote they agree broadly with [TS]

  the judges let's go to the electrical [TS]

  costs that the Vulcans and all precincts [TS]

  reporting in the Hulk has has that one [TS]

  in the bag brown county has yet to [TS]

  report i think in fact that that might [TS]

  be our biggest margin of victory with [TS]

  the Hulk I will reveal that now that's [TS]

  right the Hulk not bad man who comes now [TS]

  number one seed Batman will be argued by [TS]

  Tony an acolyte in the Church of Batman [TS]

  and number eight seed black widow who [TS]

  will be argued by Lisa Lisa you may go [TS]

  first tell us about the Black Widow the [TS]

  Black Widow is mentally tough as batman [TS]

  because like Batman her strength of [TS]

  character was forged in lost but unlike [TS]

  Batman she's had to reconstruct her [TS]

  personality because their handlers took [TS]

  it all away and she's had to do it [TS]

  without any of the advantages that [TS]

  Batman has enjoyed as wealthy playboy [TS]

  Bruce Wayne the Black Widow knows that [TS]

  the hardest thing to do is to rebuild [TS]

  yourself from the ground up and the [TS]

  person Italian romanova chooses to be is [TS]

  remarkable [TS]

  she chooses to be competent loyal and [TS]

  intent on doing penance penance for her [TS]

  earlier actions [TS]

  she's also very pragmatic which is an [TS]

  admirable little scene treating [TS]

  superheroes [TS]

  we need more realpolitik are superheroes [TS]

  she brings it in spades [TS]

  also she's resourceful she's quiet she's [TS]

  efficient and she and she's an excellent [TS]

  team player not some weird loner in a [TS]

  cave in fact it's black widows [TS]

  relationships with others that have [TS]

  helped her discover her own humanity and [TS]

  helped her bring out the best in other [TS]

  people often in paradoxical situations [TS]

  her ability to bring out the best in [TS]

  others while discovering the best [TS]

  herself has made her a powerful and [TS]

  effective superhero you have somebody [TS]

  whose greatest super parents reside [TS]

  between her ears she can do espionage [TS]

  she can do infiltration she can do [TS]

  extraction she's excellent the longview [TS]

  she's excellent planning ahead she's [TS]

  excellent improvising in a pinch in a [TS]

  21st century world she has the skills [TS]

  you need to excel the superhero game [TS]

  alright Tony talk to us about Batman I [TS]

  would like to cite my earlier argument [TS]

  which i believe is also cited heavily by [TS]

  the listeners in the poll which is he's [TS]

  Batman yes several hundred listeners [TS]

  game because he's Batman as their reason [TS]

  that's our original that's entirely [TS]

  original oh so I mean I i do think Black [TS]

  Widow is great i think black was [TS]

  probably the most interesting character [TS]

  in The Avengers and that she deserves [TS]

  her own movie or three but Batman is [TS]

  Batman I to me you know he is the most [TS]

  iconic superhero out there and you know [TS]

  not everyone is a big fan of Batman some [TS]

  people criticized that because Bruce [TS]

  Wayne is not interesting Batman is not [TS]

  interesting and Bruce Wayne is not that [TS]

  interesting [TS]

  Bruce Wayne basically exist for tax [TS]

  purposes ok that's enough that I can pay [TS]

  for all this stuff because Batman [TS]

  islands and forty that does Batman he [TS]

  just graduated that's already planning [TS]

  to have another economic argument yes [TS]

  the swiss account of super-heroes and [TS]

  you know Batman Batman is crazy right i [TS]

  mean Batman is someone who is dealing [TS]

  with things and not in the right way up [TS]

  but that way gets results [TS]

  you know he's the world's greatest [TS]

  detective and he does do a lot of [TS]

  brooding and threatening to throw people [TS]

  off rooftops and sometimes throwing [TS]

  people off of you know not too high [TS]

  rooftops so that they get really hurt [TS]

  but not killed because that's important [TS]

  but Batman is just amazing there's tons [TS]

  of Batman media out there and you can [TS]

  throw out the the horrible stuff and [TS]

  there's still tons of stuff out out [TS]

  there that's good [TS]

  honestly I think the opening credits of [TS]

  the batman animated series like a minute [TS]

  is better than about forty percent of [TS]

  the Marvel Cinematic Universe and and [TS]

  and that man is great that may be with [TS]

  you [TS]

  in addition thank you and always also [TS]

  with you Tony the in addition to the 500 [TS]

  people who said because he's Batman I to [TS]

  other comments i wanted to float out [TS]

  here from the listeners one simply said [TS]

  Ben Affleck for Scarlett Johansson come [TS]

  on and another said black widows parents [TS]

  are dead too but you don't hear her [TS]

  crying about it [TS]

  yeah so some comments from the listeners [TS]

  and all thing [TS]

  oh goodness too soon too soon [TS]

  let's say we'll go with to fill here [TS]

  Phil what do you think val kilmer Ben [TS]

  Affleck Adam West my Batman is Kevin [TS]

  Conroy so that is that's my in my [TS]

  worldview interesting [TS]

  Michael Keaton interesting [TS]

  counter-argument I enjoy watching black [TS]

  widow [TS]

  I have to grit my teeth too watch back [TS]

  and I couldn't help but notice that [TS]

  mister uh mister mister similar had much [TS]

  praise for Black Widow in his argument [TS]

  and no con I might have no calm [TS]

  no I buddy icon is that that she has not [TS]

  been so which is really a contact cheryl [TS]

  out a lot of people in the world [TS]

  every day I walk through my life unhappy [TS]

  people around me are not yet Batman [TS]

  never will easily better wear that would [TS]

  be pretty bad i watched many episodes of [TS]

  Gotham before I finally gave up on the [TS]

  show you know what the problem with that [TS]

  show is not enough Batman [TS]

  mm no I blame that show on BET and it's [TS]

  getting here [TS]

  you may have silence animal the right [TS]

  here you know what that feels better [TS]

  than what he says my name rocks [TS]

  thank you toby the really fat heart is [TS]

  saying animal was is saying your last [TS]

  name wrong is for Black Widow [TS]

  Oh Steve what do you have [TS]

  willis and i gotta tell you so sick of [TS]

  Batman his memory where man the Batman [TS]

  market is oversaturated just like [TS]

  zombies everywhere you look you can't [TS]

  throw a freaking rock without hitting [TS]

  Batman or some parable Batman clone or [TS]

  some animated series steve did you know [TS]

  sword you're never more than three feet [TS]

  away from batman i have noticed that yes [TS]

  thank you [TS]

  point of order i think you can throw a [TS]

  rock without hitting a batman because [TS]

  bad probably would ya in fact killer [TS]

  truck tried that uh and that origin [TS]

  story oh poor whiny billionaire [TS]

  inherited his riches a little early boo [TS]

  though he's got a butler to wipe his [TS]

  nose in any other orifice that happens [TS]

  to drip Batman to it once [TS]

  to drip Batman to it once [TS]

  creepy most still here i can't i can't [TS]

  help myself i still gotta go with that [TS]

  that that puts it in the hands of the [TS]

  listeners out I feel pretty safe as I [TS]

  said I i quoted all the negative things [TS]

  about about Batman and he did not [TS]

  receive the highest total however it was [TS]

  still seventy-three percent of the vote [TS]

  for back Batman moves on to the next [TS]

  round but it was well thought with the [TS]

  Black Widow I thought I thought for a [TS]

  moment was gonna happen but alas it did [TS]

  not thanks predictable nerds [TS]

  let's move on to the next win Tony [TS]

  simpler is back he's going to be talking [TS]

  about daredevil and daredevil is going [TS]

  up against number 13 seed upset winter [TS]

  moon night will be argued by dan moore [TS]

  and Dan give us some moon night [TS]

  alright what we feel like we covered a [TS]

  lot of rich ground in round one but let [TS]

  me remind you that moon night it's [TS]

  freaking crazy and I don't mean that in [TS]

  the way that like yeah Batman is working [TS]

  through his anxiety issues is like a [TS]

  bandit by his parents when I got [TS]

  multiple personalities including like a [TS]

  dead Egyptian god is made of like bones [TS]

  and as a bird and then other [TS]

  personalities that are like wolverine [TS]

  and spider-man so do legitimately [TS]

  clinically insane also well known for [TS]

  the fact that he's pretty brutal i do [TS]

  enjoy his description of his fighting [TS]

  style as someone who would rather take a [TS]

  punch then dodge one so we just kind of [TS]

  throws himself into things with [TS]

  abandoned the fact that he operates [TS]

  under a variety of different pseudonyms [TS]

  and you know sort of just kind of [TS]

  wanders around without really a mission [TS]

  is kind of attempting to do good but the [TS]

  same time I don't think he's this this [TS]

  is the kind of well just the guy you [TS]

  wanted your barometer for that thing [TS]

  so in in short he's insane but it's kind [TS]

  of delightful to watch and a while I [TS]

  have nothing but the utmost respect for [TS]

  for Matt Murdock who is you know [TS]

  obviously achieved a law degree despite [TS]

  the disability i also have to question [TS]

  the fact that it you know [TS]

  I was heralded as a superhero was [TS]

  disabled basically his superpower is [TS]

  that he can still see which seems kind [TS]

  of insulting to me also kind of [TS]

  insulting Ben Affleck as daredevil at [TS]

  low blow man I rest my case [TS]

  alright Tony yeah I you know I I am I [TS]

  feel a little bad talking talking bad [TS]

  about Batman are I'm sorry moon night [TS]

  miles back and out of play bomb and you [TS]

  know I think I i think i like moon night [TS]

  but i actually don't really know much [TS]

  about Who night for example I cannot [TS]

  name unite secret identity dan probably [TS]

  can he's done the research but i feel [TS]

  like i should be able to name which [TS]

  everyone because he's got more than one [TS]

  and I can't name any of them are there [TS]

  pamphlets from the Church of moon night [TS]

  that could be handed out at this point I [TS]

  believe he is repeatable training so the [TS]

  answer is yes excellent [TS]

  ah so I mean because but my main my main [TS]

  counter-argument is who is moon night [TS]

  because i think most people are not [TS]

  familiar with moon night even I think [TS]

  you have to you have to kind of dig deep [TS]

  in the in the comics elves to find the [TS]

  moon night and on the other side of the [TS]

  equation we have daredevil The Man [TS]

  Without Fear we're seeing a lot of love [TS]

  for characters who are doing well in [TS]

  their current media properties and and [TS]

  daredevil is killing it in that in that [TS]

  in the Netflix show which great show i [TS]

  recommend everybody I and daredevil is [TS]

  you know he is he's this kind of real [TS]

  street level i get 0 who basically one [TS]

  of his superpowers is like he'll take a [TS]

  beating and still get back up [TS]

  are you know saving hell's kitchen from [TS]

  all kinds of strange things that are [TS]

  happening in a ten-block radius near his [TS]

  house and he's also by day a lawyer with [TS]

  a heart of gold [TS]

  um yes he has been played by Ben Affleck [TS]

  but we you know Ben Affleck at this [TS]

  point is played a lot of heroes or will [TS]

  have so you know we can't hold that too [TS]

  much against him so I think you know [TS]

  moonlight has maybe a lot of potential [TS]

  but it has not been realized to the [TS]

  extent that daredevil has a daredevil [TS]

  will continue to be as the show goes [TS]

  forward so they're double all the way [TS]

  all right here's some some listener [TS]

  feedback not only is daredevil much [TS]

  better he has much better enemies like [TS]

  the kingpin who [TS]

  the moon nights enemies lunar landing [TS]

  denialists another another listener [TS]

  rights in who is moonlight that's [TS]

  another another another with no rights [TS]

  in moon night because he's Batman and [TS]

  finally tonight [TS]

  really anyway those are the listener [TS]

  comments well I feel those were and [TS]

  unfairly scheme that was our copier any [TS]

  promo night i feel like because he's mad [TS]

  man that was a pro moon tonight is bad [TS]

  man you have anything better to submit [TS]

  on behalf of Egyptian moon god I on [TS]

  China friend i'm afraid the listeners [TS]

  don't Steve what are you what's your [TS]

  ruling read daredevil one questions [TS]

  should Hell's Kitchen be saved [TS]

  what is the point of that I mean people [TS]

  people live there [TS]

  yeah let you or people dying we're [TS]

  getting his houses [TS]

  yeah I mean people live there steve [TS]

  gordon ramsay's gotta eat [TS]

  also I the the whole lawyer with a heart [TS]

  of my old a storyline that beggars [TS]

  belief [TS]

  well Wow now your honor where did you [TS]

  gotta love summer cummings i feel it's [TS]

  their continuity errors in this [TS]

  courtroom regarding moon and makes it [TS]

  appropriate for the source material [TS]

  healthy [TS]

  yeah alright calm this all be fine mr. [TS]

  Morin you point out that moon night is [TS]

  freaking crazy i believe the phrase was [TS]

  yeah i would i would agree with you say [TS]

  freaking oh I I said yes okay just want [TS]

  to verify yesterday it's interesting [TS]

  because in the previous round Tony said [TS]

  very much the same thing about Batman [TS]

  yeah that's that's child's play you also [TS]

  mentioned he's somewhat brutal in the [TS]

  way he dispatches his enemies that to [TS]

  sound suspiciously like Batman you know [TS]

  how much I love Batman [TS]

  yeah i mean you voted for him you know I [TS]

  mean he's ya on the other hand I gotta [TS]

  go to the moon [TS]

  I mean how can you not go with moon are [TS]

  fair enough [TS]

  no money changed hands everybody no [TS]

  money changed hands Phil Michaels what [TS]

  what would say you mr. Sinclair has a [TS]

  funny half of really defending and a [TS]

  half black characters that you deal the [TS]

  hand you're dealt periodic on the other [TS]

  hand this Court stands in Admiral hi [TS]

  admiration for moon night and her [TS]

  portrayal as Punky Brewster that's in [TS]

  front all i'll take it I'll take it and [TS]

  I can't believe you did that fair and [TS]

  sherry you were in on this tool somewhat [TS]

  by night somewhat by day moonlighting [TS]

  strangers who get lost on the way I vote [TS]

  for moon nights are you sure you don't [TS]

  have anymore i could maybe use its [TS]

  television downside is we wanted to [TS]

  dance [TS]

  god I hope I don't have to judge the [TS]

  next round because I got nothing [TS]

  literally no other way for me to win [TS]

  that everybody's favorite moon knight [TS]

  moves on to the next round where we will [TS]

  have the most perplexing magical a [TS]

  lifetime where moon night will face [TS]

  Batman listeners the listeners voted [TS]

  eighty-two percent for daredevil Welbeck [TS]

  wrong [TS]

  I've checked this is a miscarriage in [TS]

  every shape or form you know what was he [TS]

  would listen to bad but i kinda want to [TS]

  live in a crazy world where moon that [TS]

  goes all the way up [TS]

  yeah fair enough delighted just want to [TS]

  see Batman first Batman we move on to [TS]

  the next round number six seed Barbara [TS]

  Gordon who is Batgirl and Oracle will be [TS]

  advocated by Shannon against number [TS]

  three seed green arrow who will be [TS]

  advocated by her husband chip Shannon [TS]

  ships to go first [TS]

  it's an end yes that's right it's an [TS]

  in-house battle between that girl and [TS]

  green arrow Shannon what do you have for [TS]

  us while the reason for the creation of [TS]

  the Barbara Gordon Batgirl is rooted in [TS]

  the 1960s Batman TV show pursuing more [TS]

  female viewers here that Marvel CDR [TS]

  merchandising creators sees their chance [TS]

  and created a comics origin story that [TS]

  draws the young woman into superheroing [TS]

  by having her fulfill every cause [TS]

  players secret dream dressed as a female [TS]

  Batman for a party she prevent [TS]

  unintended kidnapping of Bruce Wayne [TS]

  she then rises to the occasion for all [TS]

  female fans by ignoring Batman as he [TS]

  tells her that women shouldn't be [TS]

  crime-fighters entered a job that will [TS]

  be dr. Gordon head of Gotham City Public [TS]

  Library but above all that girl is one [TS]

  of the coolest super heroes ever because [TS]

  more than any other character her [TS]

  creators have been able to make lemonade [TS]

  out of lemons repeatedly get shot by the [TS]

  Joker as a plot device because alan [TS]

  moore was bored she becomes oracle the [TS]

  Justice League super google and hacker [TS]

  and residents part of the birds of prey [TS]

  team and a role model for readers [TS]

  dealing with disability healed by [TS]

  super-science surgery because of a [TS]

  desperate company-wide reboot there's [TS]

  the chance to examine mental health [TS]

  issues like PTSD and survivor skilled [TS]

  and her latest turn going once again for [TS]

  that PhD while battling the forces of [TS]

  evil shows a character that can adapt to [TS]

  society shifts and remain relevant as [TS]

  well as an iconic iconic character for [TS]

  girls [TS]

  Batman readers and all comic geeks [TS]

  flat-out she's smart she's capable she's [TS]

  fierce and no matter what life happens [TS]

  and what life throws at her she just [TS]

  keeps on going and you know green arrow [TS]

  shoot stuff with with arrows paris from [TS]

  the name [TS]

  alright thank you shannon chip you can [TS]

  speak about green arrow now once again I [TS]

  feel like I'm at a great disadvantage [TS]

  against my opponent mr. sindelar hey not [TS]

  Tony well we're learning some creepy [TS]

  things about chip tonight but not Tony I [TS]

  thought that I thought the Lord green [TS]

  thing was weird but this is a beyond the [TS]

  pale [TS]

  I feel like this episode's gonna be [TS]

  extra confusing for all the people who [TS]

  think we all sound the same green arrow [TS]

  was created back in 1941 if you can [TS]

  believe it and he was basically Batman [TS]

  with a bow [TS]

  he had an Aerocar he had an aeroplane he [TS]

  was a billionaire playboy you take a [TS]

  look at him like every five or ten years [TS]

  after that all the way up to 2015 he is [TS]

  like unrecognizable each time he's been [TS]

  so he's been reinvented so many times he [TS]

  was comics is first genuinely leftist [TS]

  hero he used to have a thing for boxing [TS]

  glove arrows and then he gave him up and [TS]

  became a grim long bow hunter he's had a [TS]

  Robin Hood goatee [TS]

  he's been Stephen Amell he's one of the [TS]

  few comic book heroes not named Superman [TS]

  or Batman or Wonder Woman that kept [TS]

  being published when superheroes [TS]

  imploded back in the fifties so I ask [TS]

  you why is he so persistent why does he [TS]

  keep being reinvented instead of just [TS]

  I'm just putting away for a couple of [TS]

  decades because it is simple as this [TS]

  archery is bloody cool it's even cooler [TS]

  when you're not Hawkeye and this Archer [TS]

  can shoot an arrow down a pistol shaft [TS]

  and then closing a point out arrow is [TS]

  going into its fourth season on [TS]

  television and birds of prey featuring [TS]

  Oracle was canceled after 13 episodes [TS]

  wow there's a lot of lot less on what [TS]

  I'm not unpack their from the listeners [TS]

  we had these comments boxing glove arrow [TS]

  is all you need to know I think that's [TS]

  anti green arrow another 12 routeros [TS]

  seriously computers way more relevant [TS]

  than bows and arrows another listener [TS]

  said I already voted for ladyhawke I [TS]

  we've fulfilled our arrow quota she did [TS]

  lose my way or another listing wrote he [TS]

  shoots arrows and another listener [TS]

  simply said arrows though so the [TS]

  listings comments [TS]

  let's move on to fill it is a [TS]

  challenging challenging debate of the [TS]

  one hand we have Barbara Gordon you [TS]

  cannot pick a alter ego vacillates [TS]

  waivers don't like that on the other [TS]

  hand have green arrow [TS]

  who [TS]

  just the poor man's Hawkeye and Hawkeyes [TS]

  a very poor man indeed talk is a poor [TS]

  man's himself [TS]

  I I enjoy the fact that there was some [TS]

  slagging off of oracle at the end of not [TS]

  Tony's argument okay that I say that [TS]

  oracle alright Steve okay let's see here [TS]

  I don't know I i was listening to to the [TS]

  Oracle advocacy and I don't know [TS]

  something about the voice of vest this [TS]

  particular advocate it is mesmerizing I [TS]

  there was something about cost players [TS]

  and there is something about lemonade [TS]

  and uh III I really have no idea what [TS]

  was said but I don't know what national [TS]

  park visitor center educational film i [TS]

  stumbled into but i want to watch it man [TS]

  that is that is some top-notch advocacy [TS]

  good stuff good stuff green arrow icon [TS]

  argument appears to be that birds of [TS]

  prey was cancelled early on the WB that [TS]

  suggests quality to me that said till [TS]

  this day i was completely unaware that [TS]

  green arrow had something called an [TS]

  aeroplane i would say that again an [TS]

  arrow play haha ah right know that we're [TS]

  supposed to do I think that's awesome as [TS]

  an arrow cave that's not a word kind of [TS]

  fun [TS]

  no I find for the aeroplane it's more [TS]

  that that that leads this to a matchup [TS]

  that has to be settled by the listeners [TS]

  now as a many of you will know arrow a [TS]

  very popular show on the the CW so it [TS]

  will come as a complete surprise to [TS]

  everybody that sixty percent of the [TS]

  listeners voted for Barbara Gordon who [TS]

  moves on to the next round [TS]

  this does not surprise me at all Barbara [TS]

  Gordon is awesome I think she's iraq i [TS]

  figured the power [TS]

  of of arrow wood because if we look at [TS]

  arrow in isolation I think perhaps would [TS]

  be a stronger argument there's did this [TS]

  rehab going on with green arrow but it [TS]

  is not yet complete [TS]

  we are moving on to number seven [TS]

  deadpool will be argued by moes against [TS]

  number two [TS]

  Wonder Woman argued by Shannon most of [TS]

  the underdog with Deadpool you may go [TS]

  first want to see how ben affleck that's [TS]

  worked into this argument is not [TS]

  because Nicholas Cage built I've run out [TS]

  of my reverse defenses so I am I now [TS]

  have to leave my case I to the [TS]

  Honorables and I'm gonna do it in the [TS]

  most of the way I I can't point of order [TS]

  who are the Honorables well apparently [TS]

  they're you but we're gonna go and [TS]

  really when Michael's yeah but you know [TS]

  that you're not gonna sing a song here [TS]

  are you help would come a long way to a [TS]

  minute [TS]

  Wonder Woman is an icon she's had tons [TS]

  of years to be an icon I mean she's 18 [TS]

  years old at this point something like [TS]

  that she's part of the boat trinity of [TS]

  Heroes break so but Deadpool is [TS]

  something slightly new slightly [TS]

  different [TS]

  the guy can see into the fourth wall and [TS]

  talk to the actual reader and might I [TS]

  also remind the court that Deadpool was [TS]

  responsible for destroying the entire [TS]

  Marvel Universe with the help of Reed [TS]

  Richards of course also and i think this [TS]

  is my one of my high points and pillars [TS]

  if you will [TS]

  deadpool beat cancer [TS]

  and to render a verdict against Deadpool [TS]

  is a verdict for cancer [TS]

  I rest my case okay Shannon ok [TS]

  wonder woman was created at the [TS]

  direction of the Gods is blessed with [TS]

  bountiful gifts from the gods and is a [TS]

  goddess herself depending on which point [TS]

  the reader jumps in in any of these [TS]

  cases she is the premier super heroine [TS]

  of the DC universe with a history that [TS]

  is about to hit 75 years she has spent [TS]

  those years fighting every kind of [TS]

  villain the Nazi war machine costumed [TS]

  nemec's intergalactic galleons crime [TS]

  bosses and more she has gained and lost [TS]

  superpowers and almost yo fashion yet [TS]

  continued to pursue justice and peace [TS]

  with whatever weapons are in her Arsenal [TS]

  at the time while not the first female [TS]

  superhero and comics she is the one who [TS]

  has endured with the most prominence [TS]

  evolving with the times she is the icon [TS]

  that inspired generations of girls to be [TS]

  something more and show generations of [TS]

  boys that women can wield power to super [TS]

  smart super strong super capable and yet [TS]

  almost always acting from a position of [TS]

  compassion Wonder Woman has long [TS]

  surpassed the hopes of her creators to [TS]

  become an undisputable icon of comics [TS]

  and mind all of that while mostly [TS]

  wearing a bathing suit and heels before [TS]

  we go to the judges I will read off a [TS]

  couple of comments from our from our [TS]

  listeners Deadpool is one of the most [TS]

  awful characters in all of comics ryan [TS]

  reynolds Your Honor lobo Ryan Reynolds [TS]

  will not be playing Wonder Woman voting [TS]

  against wonder woman would be like [TS]

  swearing at your mom [TS]

  Deadpool is not a gentleman and wonder [TS]

  woman does not abide rudeness and [TS]

  finally once Deadpool is caught in the [TS]

  lasso of truth and is forced to admit he [TS]

  uses humor to cover up his own knowledge [TS]

  that he is a one-dimensional annoying [TS]

  character that never should have [TS]

  continued past the awful nineties he [TS]

  removes himself from the competition in [TS]

  shame those are our comments from [TS]

  listeners Steve what is your rolling can [TS]

  can can advocate set earth reassure me [TS]

  that Ryan Reynolds will not be playing [TS]

  one [TS]

  woman at some point Ryan Reynolds will [TS]

  never play wonder woman are you certain [TS]

  of that fact I am positive but it would [TS]

  look good [TS]

  no don't protect how exciting was that [TS]

  trailer that leaked just remember that [TS]

  just remember that you know what I don't [TS]

  find Deadpool that annoying [TS]

  I mean it's not like it is mostly at the [TS]

  wisecracking thing breaking the fourth [TS]

  wall that is that is lame in most [TS]

  contexts but I don't think it's done [TS]

  much in comics and I think that's I [TS]

  think it's kind of cool that he's sort [TS]

  of the the soul talk to the audience [TS]

  character although the fact that he beat [TS]

  cancer and you're proud of that my [TS]

  mother is a cancer sir and I'll have you [TS]

  know that Deadpool has never beaten her [TS]

  far as i know uh helpful remember him [TS]

  for cancer [TS]

  what to do what to do well you know what [TS]

  answer certainly like a lady i keep [TS]

  going back to the fact that that it was [TS]

  a goddess to you that it was Wonder [TS]

  Woman in my youth who introduced me to [TS]

  the fact that Apple hostess fruit pies [TS]

  are delicious and nutritious and so I [TS]

  have to find for Wonder Woman alright [TS]

  this case finally press it and decided [TS]

  at this court [TS]

  Phil what is your ruling Deadpool is [TS]

  perhaps my favorite dirty hearing movie [TS]

  the one with guns and roses in it [TS]

  yes it's quite good I i have a justice [TS]

  makes a very good point i wish we had [TS]

  conferred on this before i rendered my [TS]

  decision i have a series of questions [TS]

  for Shannon Shannon yes would you say [TS]

  that all the world is waiting for Wonder [TS]

  Woman and the power she possesses [TS]

  absolutely in her seven tights is she [TS]

  fighting for my rights and the old red [TS]

  why you lose [TS]

  yes did she stop a bullet cold shin [TS]

  absolutely can she make the axis fold he [TS]

  did she [TS]

  did not i watch that whole series can [TS]

  she change minds as well as change the [TS]

  world and most importantly I I believe [TS]

  this will influence my decision [TS]

  she'll wonder she is a wonder that [TS]

  Wonder Woman I rule in favor of Wonder [TS]

  Woman Wonder Woman moves on to the next [TS]

  round our listeners also agreed with the [TS]

  judges sixty-eight percent of listeners [TS]

  chose wonder woman over Deadpool wanna [TS]

  looks awful care turn in all of comics [TS]

  according to one like that bold [TS]

  statement Mo's you got a chance to [TS]

  redeem yourself you'll be arguing for [TS]

  number one seed in our final regional [TS]

  Latveria region [TS]

  I don't know I still don't know why [TS]

  we're in life area way we bailiff smell [TS]

  yes we are now in the Latveria region is [TS]

  that correct we are to stand for the lat [TS]

  variants can i would like to reiterate [TS]

  that no money has changed hands pick up [TS]

  a bit after I never said alright no [TS]

  money of any kind [TS]

  that's right thank you this was going to [TS]

  be in boston they dropped out of the [TS]

  building i didn't want it didn't want it [TS]

  it's just a shame too because Tony Stark [TS]

  went to MIT so they could but no no most [TS]

  number one iron man you will be arguing [TS]

  against Dan who has his work cut out for [TS]

  him arguing for the world's favorite [TS]

  x-man gambit dan you may go first [TS]

  let's emphasize the good things here [TS]

  it's a short list how one fuchsia bodies [TS]

  here keep rolling right through that [TS]

  vacation accent oh I consider doing my [TS]

  entire defense in a Cajun accent decided [TS]

  that probably would not help my kids all [TS]

  guarantee it will buy you some guy likes [TS]

  future bodysuit chignon your honor [TS]

  there's a difference between a Cajun [TS]

  accent and a fresh rat accidentally i am [TS]

  available please enlighten us what do [TS]

  each of those accents sound like been [TS]

  back to you [TS]

  I so at that point i think i would argue [TS]

  that I know there is a lot of popular [TS]

  groundswell against cabinet and I think [TS]

  in some ways deserved but I would also [TS]

  argue that you know he's facing off your [TS]

  against Tony Stark who is kind of like a [TS]

  like a super lame-o millionaire Batman [TS]

  except he just spends all his time [TS]

  drinking and partying that I don't even [TS]

  think that qualifies as a superhero [TS]

  honestly so at least gambit has a staff [TS]

  that like telescopes up and down and can [TS]

  make things that explode and well-being [TS]

  i mentioned the fuchsia bodysuit defense [TS]

  rests [TS]

  alright most talked-about iron man [TS]

  ok now it would seem that again i am the [TS]

  overarching winner but i'm going to play [TS]

  this as straight as possible [TS]

  first of all this guy was a raging [TS]

  alcoholic and when Israel is the same [TS]

  thing me [TS]

  ok but he's still out there doing a [TS]

  great job for America and for the [TS]

  Avengers and even for the west coast [TS]

  avengers might I add got captain america [TS]

  killed huh [TS]

  Sorry Sorry swinging through what [TS]

  sometimes things happen that was the red [TS]

  skull pin see [TS]

  your information mr. morn is incorrect [TS]

  tony has a delightful girl friend by the [TS]

  name of pepper potts oh we just we love [TS]

  to watch on film and and just and revel [TS]

  in that but literally he's a genius [TS]

  philanthropist and alcoholic but still [TS]

  fights to live and lives to fight let's [TS]

  let's hear with the listeners had to say [TS]

  the listener said iron man where's less [TS]

  purple that's just the fact that this [TS]

  family again [TS]

  what is this with the purple I've always [TS]

  gonna bring it in [TS]

  sure they'll both likely steal your [TS]

  girlfriend but at least Tony will pay [TS]

  for the party [TS]

  no one likes gambit says democracy the [TS]

  entry is irony rounding rounding iron [TS]

  man shoots lasers and gambit actually [TS]

  this is the gambit [TS]

  hello rose cards are great players and [TS]

  the game through its like the Batman are [TS]

  these two different heroes gambit and [TS]

  the gamma RT has a living there related [TS]

  and finally ironman stories can make [TS]

  even corporate takeovers interesting [TS]

  gambit makes nothing interesting [TS]

  those are listener constantly constantly [TS]

  a true bill what say you a question for [TS]

  mr. mostly ack sure your honor [TS]

  absolutely cast iron man lost his mind [TS]

  it define losing camp fire dance or is [TS]

  he blind can iron man walk at all where [TS]

  he moves will he fall talkin about blind [TS]

  drunk is he alive or dead happy thoughts [TS]

  within his head will just pass him there [TS]

  why should we even care wilkie [TS]

  transcended time the people didn't love [TS]

  him and he went back in time to save [TS]

  them quite true [TS]

  thank you on the other hand gambit is [TS]

  the coolest of all the x-men my gosh if [TS]

  you gather up children and say who is [TS]

  your favorite x-man they will say to [TS]

  American going to jail [TS]

  they will say I cannot rule in favor of [TS]

  this this flop iron man when campus who [TS]

  stands tall above all superheroes is so [TS]

  assailed I rule in favor of gambit that [TS]

  surprises no one there there's a history [TS]

  of Tony Tony prejudice in this class [TS]

  stiva let us know what you think about [TS]

  iron man and get but I advocate more'n [TS]

  yes starting gambit [TS]

  yes he enjoy a good guy and bubble [TS]

  absolutely sherry if an onion garlic we [TS]

  that notwithstanding back i have to say [TS]

  that this advocate does not seem to be [TS]

  defending his client to the best of his [TS]

  legal ability fact he seems somewhat to [TS]

  be in the bag for the other the other [TS]

  the other party to this particular [TS]

  battle we're going to do with life area [TS]

  in fact it's hard for me to see this as [TS]

  anything other than a miscarriage of [TS]

  justice [TS]

  certainly this this this ruling will be [TS]

  thrown out almost immediately upon [TS]

  rendering of judgment because clearly [TS]

  this this this [TS]

  oh I hesitate to use the word advocate [TS]

  is not his heart is not in this thing [TS]

  what lies a compelling counter-argument [TS]

  wait a minute hang on hang on one second [TS]

  please guys just a second i find for [TS]

  ironman well thatthat split the vote of [TS]

  as we as we thought it might others no [TS]

  way i can live i can i can get at least [TS]

  one way maybe one Rihanna ah good news [TS]

  dan nineteen percent of the listeners [TS]

  like any of it now I was the way that [TS]

  was the way the nineteen percent you are [TS]

  intelligent and realize the campus is [TS]

  the greatest of all x-men yeah and iron [TS]

  man moves on to the next round we move [TS]

  to the next this [TS]

  is our big battle of undergo underdogs [TS]

  number 12 seed the thing lots of [TS]

  complaints out there about the thing [TS]

  being too lowly seated that's just what [TS]

  the committee did and he there was [TS]

  something scheduled was not strong [TS]

  enough i don't know Monty will be [TS]

  arguing for the thing number 12 seed and [TS]

  yet he is not the underdog because big [TS]

  part of the 13 seed will be argued by [TS]

  Lisa these are two jack kirby creations [TS]

  pointed out by several people as well [TS]

  Lisa you may go first tell us about big [TS]

  barda boom to that is where it begins [TS]

  that is where it ends this is big Barda [TS]

  and she has a boom tube she can work [TS]

  space and time she basically operates as [TS]

  a one-woman public transit [TS]

  infrastructure thanks to the boom tube [TS]

  not a euphemism an actual piece of [TS]

  advanced technology seriously good [TS]

  artist origin story and partners origin [TS]

  story is amazing she was supposed to be [TS]

  somewhat dodges nightmare warrior Lady [TS]

  that retag across interstellar whatever [TS]

  is in the name of evil and instead she [TS]

  decided she's going to shake off years [TS]

  and conditioning follow her conscience [TS]

  follow her tiny boyfriend to earth and [TS]

  become his adoring New England housewife [TS]

  and yet every time some something [TS]

  threatens earth in some some way shape [TS]

  or form she shakes off the apron she [TS]

  puts back on the apocalypse battle armor [TS]

  and she goes out and she kicks but she's [TS]

  also the designated heavy hitter on the [TS]

  birds of prey so you know she's a you [TS]

  know you know she's a team player and [TS]

  also i think you get extra extra extra [TS]

  extra extra points for associated the [TS]

  birds of prey because anyone who says [TS]

  that the Barbara Gordon a positive way [TS]

  is kind of Awesome by association as [TS]

  well [TS]

  lastly i have two more words free boom [TS]

  tube does the thing have a boom tube [TS]

  no he does not he just has rocky skin [TS]

  and a massive complex and a blind [TS]

  girlfriend yet that's more than two [TS]

  words there at the end but I get your [TS]

  get your point at one point you were [TS]

  going to say that she's also the [TS]

  designated driver but that's not what [TS]

  you said Monte talk about the thing I [TS]

  believe you said in a previous episode [TS]

  that he is one of your favorite [TS]

  characters of all time [TS]

  the thing is the best character in the [TS]

  Marvel Universe he's got the ANC's that [TS]

  defines Marvel but he's got the [TS]

  clobbering that defines superheroes he's [TS]

  equally at home [TS]

  inching street-level goons in the face [TS]

  and dealing with cosmic weirdos it as an [TS]

  example of that we're going to ignore [TS]

  the Fantastic Four for a moment because [TS]

  certain members of it have gotten way [TS]

  too much publicity during this round is [TS]

  your arm [TS]

  yes that dude right the series Marvel [TS]

  two-in-one went for a hundred issues and [TS]

  it paired Ben Grimm up with someone [TS]

  different every month and every time [TS]

  it's great [TS]

  this is a character who can pair off [TS]

  with characters as diverse as spider-man [TS]

  the living mummy the impossible man and [TS]

  in the second to last issue not to curry [TS]

  favor with certain bailiffs rom the [TS]

  space night [TS]

  listen I respect big barda big barda is [TS]

  one of my favorite characters i was [TS]

  proud to bring her into the second round [TS]

  when I argued for her in the first round [TS]

  but she's not as great as the guy who [TS]

  tells us exactly when clobbering time [TS]

  starts are you didn't mention that in [TS]

  issue 15 Marvel two-in-one the thing [TS]

  teamed up with himself [TS]

  that's an alternate thing that he just [TS]

  with yes with the old rocks instead of [TS]

  the New York's I just would you [TS]

  mentioned Marvel two-in-one I thought I [TS]

  thought with ribbon in there also seems [TS]

  up with Ben Grimm at one point where yes [TS]

  the rock version and the human version [TS]

  crazy stuff the listeners wrote in and [TS]

  said my dad made me move piles of rocks [TS]

  each summer when I was a boy I don't [TS]

  also before the Horta there came the [TS]

  thing the original character that proves [TS]

  a pile of rocks can feel another one [TS]

  Road in and and said I agree with the [TS]

  internets dr. dragging the thing was [TS]

  understated and should clean up in the [TS]

  second round I'm Ben Grimm friend to [TS]

  everyone in the Marvel Universe but the [TS]

  loneliest man on earth also another [TS]

  another listing wrote in and said the [TS]

  thing is kind of dumb but I've never [TS]

  heard of big Barda and finally I would [TS]

  like to point out in a mistake i [TS]

  referred to Yancy Street things home is [TS]

  being in Brooklyn it's not in Brooklyn [TS]

  is back in a time when there could be [TS]

  bad neighborhoods in Manhattan there are [TS]

  not now but it was in the it was in it [TS]

  was improper Manhattan in New York City [TS]

  not in the borough of Brooklyn so which [TS]

  is also new york city but is not man had [TS]

  no I screwed up again their unity street [TS]

  in manhattan but I bet it is [TS]

  they move probably moved at all [TS]

  brooklyn at some point in the seventies [TS]

  that's my theory by a boom tube [TS]

  let's go to our judges for the Steve [TS]

  what say you ever gets my user can you [TS]

  explain this boom tube you said it a lot [TS]

  but you haven't really explained what [TS]

  the hell it is is is this similar to [TS]

  gambit staff the telescope's up and [TS]

  don't know it's it's it's about the size [TS]

  of a cardboard poster tube considerably [TS]

  more high-tech an interesting-looking [TS]

  she points it's something she creates a [TS]

  wormhole space and time you can shove [TS]

  stuff through it is boom and that's it [TS]

  more high-tech than a cardboard tube you [TS]

  say in and to to what end to what end is [TS]

  this boom tube use it used to just [TS]

  dispose of garbage in easy fashion or [TS]

  what's the purpose of this wormhole and [TS]

  putting up a bit you can move people [TS]

  quickly including myself you can throw [TS]

  it into awful dimensions things like [TS]

  that so teleportation basically is the [TS]

  point its teleport she's basically a [TS]

  woman one woman public transit service [TS]

  if the transit question is teleportation [TS]

  that's accessed by a tube to quote thst [TS]

  she's got the power to move you and in [TS]

  gambit staff the telescope's up and down [TS]

  that does not have the same power [TS]

  is I am no I am no gambling expert but [TS]

  to the best of my knowledge i think the [TS]

  staff is just there because they needed [TS]

  something to do with his hands and [TS]

  several of the shots [TS]

  interesting interesting he needs the [TS]

  staffer pallets gambit so cool he all [TS]

  over he didn't have something to hold [TS]

  onto [TS]

  that's why cool people are always [TS]

  leaning against things ya talkin about [TS]

  get bit by big and advocate Ashley yes [TS]

  sir when is clobberin time exactly it's [TS]

  never been made clear to me exactly when [TS]

  that is that that's why you need the [TS]

  thing around [TS]

  he's the only true he's got the only [TS]

  true lock on when clobbering time starts [TS]

  if he's not there it could be clobbering [TS]

  time you don't even know it's about [TS]

  every four pages [TS]

  it's ok interesting I that'sthat's good [TS]

  metric well while I do like boom tube i [TS]

  also like clobberin time [TS]

  so wow this is a tough one but I've [TS]

  heard of the thing the thing it is Bill [TS]

  boom to clobbering time [TS]

  clobbering time boom tube question for [TS]

  mr. actually but that who is the coolest [TS]

  of the x-men [TS]

  gambit question rash miser who is the [TS]

  coolest off the x-men [TS]

  relevance your honor thanks Ellen is [TS]

  exactly morones gonna pay to go and get [TS]

  excuse me a point where can we please [TS]

  can we please bring advocate more and [TS]

  back to the duty stand highly [TS]

  unprecedented but well allow it [TS]

  yeah advocate morning and I'd like to [TS]

  learn more about gambits no gambit staff [TS]

  is uh is a it's basically a couple of [TS]

  interns we it's we lost the end of this [TS]

  is we have to set family podcast I'm [TS]

  sorry [TS]

  central is directed advocate more [TS]

  advocate more and please please [TS]

  I I need to know more about the subject [TS]

  i'm going to call Steve looked at one in [TS]

  the morning and asked him about get [TS]

  staff and he will be unhappy [TS]

  the staff is an important part of [TS]

  gambits repertoire or is it [TS]

  oh you pronounce that correctly Steve [TS]

  that was excellent by the way [TS]

  interesting live before the cajun field [TS]

  because you know gambit yes i would say [TS]

  it's perhaps not as critical as his [TS]

  future bodysuit or ability to throw [TS]

  exploding playing cards but i would say [TS]

  it's a central part of his identity as [TS]

  the coolest of the service brand his [TS]

  personal branding good to know it's not [TS]

  well-versed that decision [TS]

  this will weigh upon future decisions I [TS]

  cannot go back and change the previous [TS]

  decision obviously but its staff may [TS]

  come play and knowledge is not even [TS]

  related things absolutely right [TS]

  I the thing also got the endorsement of [TS]

  sixty-nine percent of the listeners we [TS]

  move on to unmatched between number 62 [TS]

  Rorschach will be argued by moes and [TS]

  number 14 seed invincible who will be [TS]

  argued by the person who introduced [TS]

  invincible one of my favorite comics now [TS]

  to me Lisa Schmeisser least you're the [TS]

  underdog please go first and talk about [TS]

  invincible [TS]

  ok I seem to keep getting people who [TS]

  have to break their conditioning or [TS]

  destiny and the great thing about these [TS]

  people they actually keep doing it [TS]

  the thing that makes invincible great is [TS]

  that he would effectively raised as a [TS]

  sleeper agent in vail evading alien army [TS]

  from a brutally repressive militaristic [TS]

  race of Tom Selleck like aliens [TS]

  and instead he became a protector and [TS]

  defender of Earth and the thing that [TS]

  makes invincible great if he's willing [TS]

  to take his legs and keep getting come [TS]

  in and keep coming back [TS]

  I i have lost count of the number of [TS]

  panels where this poor guy has just his [TS]

  face beaten to a pulp and it slowly [TS]

  heels over the course of the story arc [TS]

  anyway [TS]

  mark who is from the invisible is not [TS]

  being invincible is really big into [TS]

  giving people second chances and [TS]

  although he gets more pragmatic as he [TS]

  gets older he's on his guard against [TS]

  becoming cynical and he's always [TS]

  striving to try and remain compassionate [TS]

  he actively fights against the type of [TS]

  pragmatism that reduces living beings to [TS]

  mirror your objects on the chessboard he [TS]

  tries to hold life as sacred that's one [TS]

  of the things that drives him and even [TS]

  even when he has to do things that will [TS]

  threaten her in somebody's life so I do [TS]

  give props to shock for eventually [TS]

  taking his demons to the point where [TS]

  they work for him and it's one of the [TS]

  most effective characters and comics but [TS]

  invincible has actually had to go a step [TS]

  further and fight alternate reality [TS]

  versions of himself and in my opinion [TS]

  that kicks up a level of intensity [TS]

  imagine coming face-to-face with the [TS]

  living embodiment of every bad decision [TS]

  you've ever made over the course of your [TS]

  life [TS]

  imagine coming face-to-face with every [TS]

  unpleasant facet of your personality [TS]

  blown up up into somebody who's wearing [TS]

  your face and then imagine that all of [TS]

  your bad decisions and all of the [TS]

  unpleasant part of your personality are [TS]

  trying to kill you Invincibles lived [TS]

  this and he still managed to come out of [TS]

  it as a hero and somebody who values [TS]

  life and strives to see the best in [TS]

  other people he carries a lot of his [TS]

  damage but he carries it on the inside [TS]

  finally that thing makes invincible [TS]

  really great [TS]

  he's basically spider-man crossed with [TS]

  Superman you know he's a guy who had [TS]

  responsibility thrust on him he's got [TS]

  this crazy mad powers he's half alien [TS]

  but he still strives to hold onto the [TS]

  things that make him human and relatable [TS]

  to people he loves [TS]

  alright and Moe's tell us about [TS]

  Rorschach I'll tell you what that was [TS]

  amazing i would love to read that comic [TS]

  but with the name like invincible [TS]

  it sounds dumb so really a Rorschach [TS]

  easily one of the most [TS]

  influential as uh my other defense [TS]

  defense attorney was saying is probably [TS]

  up you know in fact a legend he is [TS]

  probably the smartest detective that [TS]

  would have ever been on the planet if he [TS]

  had not died you know Bruce Wayne [TS]

  couldn't hold his job boilers look if [TS]

  you haven't if you haven't read watchmen [TS]

  shame on you and i'll guarantee ways [TS]

  from 1986 exactly so [TS]

  objection and you're overruled that [TS]

  movies on that old here we go our other [TS]

  honors your honors is a is Monty coming [TS]

  up soon [TS]

  there we go that's all I needed to hear [TS]

  ok so first of all watchman is watershed [TS]

  moment in comics he could probably patty [TS]

  not died proof that you know the moon [TS]

  landing was false and faked um he also [TS]

  made beautiful than with the Milligan's [TS]

  moon night but now okay but then again [TS]

  he won so look how bad could I be doing [TS]

  he has the coolest mask in comics flat [TS]

  out and he made eating cold beans cool [TS]

  again then it had been not according to [TS]

  really but then it came back 9023 [TS]

  everybody'd Colby old friends come back [TS]

  on the answer is in a comic book in the [TS]

  eighties only 2 comments came in in our [TS]

  from our listeners pointing out that i [TS]

  missed typed the word Rorschach in the [TS]

  bracket cool say thank you to those two [TS]

  people for writing in and being patents [TS]

  and then 2 comments from from listeners [TS]

  I Astro shock to save me once he said no [TS]

  and he's not trapped in a bracket with [TS]

  all these heroes they're trapped in a [TS]

  bracket within those of the comments [TS]

  from the listeners Phil what is your [TS]

  ruling on Rorschach and invincible [TS]

  mmm on the one hand Ted Cruz is come out [TS]

  as a strong advocate for a shack on the [TS]

  other hand Schmeisser played for a shack [TS]

  in the watchman movie [TS]

  Jackie Earle Haley [TS]

  he did hmm didn't mr. Jackie Earle Haley [TS]

  favorite not 12 of your tweets and [TS]

  recent memory that has no bearing on [TS]

  this yeah I think that you should answer [TS]

  the question [TS]

  you are under oath [TS]

  I don't think that's true love to have [TS]

  that question i think i just wanted to [TS]

  say that because it sounds good buddy [TS]

  i'm curious as to where this line of [TS]

  questioning is going what is the [TS]

  relevance of someone favoriting my [TS]

  tweets when i am in fact advocating for [TS]

  a different hero point is this mission [TS]

  wiser Kelly leak has defended you to the [TS]

  death and yet you turn your back and [TS]

  Kelly leak at the moment when he needs [TS]

  you the most [TS]

  that is an important point defender [TS]

  doing my job sir [TS]

  well that may well be do we just step [TS]

  into a really creepy role-playing [TS]

  sessions my job Godspeed said it was [TS]

  also feel missed the most important line [TS]

  he should have said there which was I'm [TS]

  asking the questions here but anyway [TS]

  back to the psychodrama I'm gonna hand I [TS]

  really I i enjoy both the watchman and [TS]

  the invincible there there i think [TS]

  they're two very good funny books on I'm [TS]

  gonna rule however in favor work shack [TS]

  alright Steve well I came into this [TS]

  thing thinking Rorschach all the way I [TS]

  know Rorschach i love Rorschach i agree [TS]

  with Rorschach on pretty much everything [TS]

  including really explains a lot of the [TS]

  problems of this court an advocate [TS]

  Schmeisser came in with her advocacy of [TS]

  invincible and I'm fascinated by this [TS]

  concept that the concept of Tom Selleck [TS]

  like aliens would be to begin with [TS]

  wow I i'm not sure what to say about [TS]

  that or how that could possibly work but [TS]

  it does make me want to look it up and [TS]

  and find out [TS]

  although the fact that he's an invading [TS]

  alien that became defender of earth does [TS]

  sound suspiciously like several other [TS]

  heroes that have been defended tonight [TS]

  so [TS]

  points off for originality I like that [TS]

  that its kind of I've seen I've seen [TS]

  images from this comic i like the fact [TS]

  that he's beaten to a pulp and it's [TS]

  fairly gory and they slowly heels over [TS]

  time I think that's very interesting [TS]

  very interesting most interesting I [TS]

  think is the fact that advocate mosel [TS]

  act points out that Rorschach is dead is [TS]

  invincible dead the name suggests that [TS]

  he's not i don't think Invincibles dead [TS]

  but Rorschach clearly is dead [TS]

  I don't want to ruin it for anybody but [TS]

  he said it several times specific i find [TS]

  for invincible [TS]

  apurate doors I doors murmur murmur [TS]

  court rumor that throws it into the [TS]

  hands of our listeners who had to choose [TS]

  between a character who appears in an [TS]

  independent comic and a character who [TS]

  appears in the most celebrated comic [TS]

  book ever made 75-percent of whom [TS]

  spoilers voted for Rorschach so [TS]

  Rorschach moves on but it was a nice [TS]

  well-argued police a well-argued for our [TS]

  friend Mark thank you [TS]

  moving on to our last pairing of the [TS]

  evening do they have mustaches he is [TS]

  he's not the new people i'm about to [TS]

  discuss or all over themselves look like [TS]

  aliens [TS]

  yes oh yes they do his dad's got the big [TS]

  selling mutton is exquisite my [TS]

  submission yeah they that is how you can [TS]

  tell that you can say someone is Tom [TS]

  Selleck like and not have a mustache [TS]

  yeah that's just a guy in a Hawaiian [TS]

  shirt you know I is already said I just [TS]

  wanted to be sure like when he shaves [TS]

  Tom Selleck is not Tom Selleck like [TS]

  unless you're referring to Tom so like [TS]

  when he played eisenhower in that TV [TS]

  movie they did that was wrong though but [TS]

  identical Eisenhower had no mustache so [TS]

  that was also true i'm moving on to our [TS]

  last pairing of eating number ten [TS]

  Nightcrawler will be argued by chip this [TS]

  is a battle of true friends in the x-men [TS]

  because nightcrawlers going up against [TS]

  his good friend Wolverine number two [TS]

  seed will be argued by Monty chip you [TS]

  get to go first tell us about kurt von [TS]

  der Nightcrawler ok everybody I can we [TS]

  all agree that we're all really sick and [TS]

  tired of wolverine and [TS]

  yes I don't think i agree with that yeah [TS]

  alright i find for a while I I apologize [TS]

  mr. sindelar uh there's only one reason [TS]

  why the universe has not become [TS]

  completely sick of wolverine that's Hugh [TS]

  Jackman well and paul cornell wrote a [TS]

  good run of the comic recently but the [TS]

  whole point of the mutant analogy is [TS]

  that you've got heroes who are hated and [TS]

  feared for being different when it comes [TS]

  to appearances Wolverine has a sucky [TS]

  haircut [TS]

  nightcrawler he looks like a demon he [TS]

  looks like a devil he has a pointy tail [TS]

  the world hates and fears him and yet [TS]

  he's still a hero he has more reason to [TS]

  be as bloodthirsty as Wolverine but he's [TS]

  less bloodthirsty he's great he's a [TS]

  great fighter he can climb walls but his [TS]

  signature superpower is teleportation [TS]

  which he does in a puff of brimstone and [TS]

  the sound effect [TS]

  BAM be a m-f I think we all know what [TS]

  that stands for and it's not biomass [TS]

  alternative methane fuels I rest my case [TS]

  very good Monty look we all know how [TS]

  cool Wolverine is some say he's one of [TS]

  the top two coolest x-men he's got the [TS]

  healing factor in the claws my crazy [TS]

  facial hair but he's also got the [TS]

  superpower to appear in 17 different [TS]

  tales a week for 30 years he can be in [TS]

  the x-men and The Avengers and Jem and [TS]

  the Holograms all at the same time [TS]

  sure you're a little sick of him now [TS]

  because he's been in every comic book [TS]

  for so long but he's such a great [TS]

  character that he got a solo movie that [TS]

  everyone hated and then he got another [TS]

  solo movie sure everyone hated that one [TS]

  but he's going to get another solo movie [TS]

  just like the character itself the [TS]

  concept of Wolverine is so strong it [TS]

  can't be killed [TS]

  nightcrawler could barely survived Alan [TS]

  Cummings German accent Wolverine want [TS]

  you money as a point of World point out [TS]

  that they that they did kill over [TS]

  mean and he's dead now he's not dead the [TS]

  whole planet of them you see how well [TS]

  that mean it's comics he's being [TS]

  attacked but they didn't think we did [TS]

  they did not want makeup base assumed he [TS]

  was dead and having an adamantium he was [TS]

  totally alive in there [TS]

  Wolverine is dead well it's complicated [TS]

  wolverine wolverine doesn't die he just [TS]

  waits he just may read every issue of [TS]

  the death of wolverine nope [TS]

  ok ok that's I think we'll resurrected [TS]

  at that's a reasonable argument i have [TS]

  two final comments from listeners in [TS]

  this final master plan there but they [TS]

  are probably my two favorite of all the [TS]

  ones i've read tonight [TS]

  first a listener rights Alan Cumming [TS]

  beats Hugh Jackman as a porno name [TS]

  wow he's really Jason got some points [TS]

  and second this is a painful decision [TS]

  painful i know how Steve let's feels [TS]

  when he has 10 jokes ready for something [TS]

  jason says and he can't choose all of [TS]

  them he must leave some behind i have [TS]

  never left one of my 10 jokes going to [TS]

  write headed out five of them believe [TS]

  the other five min see what is your [TS]

  thought about Nightcrawler and Wolverine [TS]

  well advocate chip you seem to lean [TS]

  heavily in your advocacy of Nightcrawler [TS]

  on on his bamp catchphrase if bamf does [TS]

  not stand for that that thing you said [TS]

  what does bamp stand for back [TS]

  really Your Honor my opponent cannot [TS]

  even the other to say actual word just [TS]

  incoherent beeps that no one ever [TS]

  interesting and Monta yeah question for [TS]

  you if that is the case and I don't [TS]

  dispute that is what does Nick stand [TS]

  snake is too cool to stand for anything [TS]

  man [TS]

  it just is heavy heavy i find for the [TS]

  guy who didn't beep Wolverine it is well [TS]

  into that trap fell man shit she met [TS]

  BAM LD co-host Oprah I have a question [TS]

  for Tony go ahead President tell me [TS]

  yes which of these um x-men would you [TS]

  say is the closest to matching camp it [TS]

  for coolest who is he actually dr. do I [TS]

  believe you're an expert witness here [TS]

  yes an ex parte witness [TS]

  oh my fight against Tony Tony rq-4 again [TS]

  answer the question wait for an answer [TS]

  who did I argue for I wasn't our guy is [TS]

  your night roller yesternight dollar [TS]

  woman how Wolverine or next color [TS]

  compared to can bet and I'm waiting for [TS]

  my answer it will totally influenced my [TS]

  decision [TS]

  I don't know what's going on well Tony [TS]

  was closer to the coolness of gambit but [TS]

  not phrased in a very careful way now [TS]

  you probably want to kiss you with I [TS]

  take issue with the premise of that [TS]

  question [TS]

  well I find you in contempt motion [TS]

  couldn't imagine the x-men lined up in [TS]

  order of coolness gap is obviously at [TS]

  the head of the line is this line in [TS]

  some kind of circle perhaps where it [TS]

  gets confusing about where the middle is [TS]

  standing next to camp it and when we [TS]

  were another limit is at one end of the [TS]

  line just will be a strip you know all [TS]

  thrown open to anyone who is as cool as [TS]

  gambit between these two nobody setting [TS]

  nobody is that your dad is incorrect [TS]

  answer I ruin favor of the night crawler [TS]

  I thought I had a chance to win this one [TS]

  without telling the guy [TS]

  ok so Phil votes for Nightcrawler Steve [TS]

  votes for Wolverine the people have [TS]

  spoken [TS]

  sixty-five percent of them to snikt over [TS]

  band so Wolverine moves on to the next [TS]

  round [TS]

  this ends round two of the summer [TS]

  superhero spectacular i would like to [TS]

  thank god i would like to thank our [TS]

  judges for fulfilling their duties as [TS]

  judges we will not need them in the neck [TS]

  around thank you for your two rounds of [TS]

  Judge duty you're fired basically what [TS]

  I'm saying but with honor with honor [TS]

  dice and everybody out there who still [TS]

  listening [TS]

  don't you have something better to do [TS]

  with your time I would like to thank my [TS]

  participants in the summer superhero [TS]

  spectacular dan more in Monte Ashley [TS]

  Tony similar ways miser chips other [TS]

  films lack Shannon others and of course [TS]

  our judges felt Michaels and Steve but [TS]

  i'm your host Jason L thank you for [TS]

  listening and we'll be back with more [TS]

  superhero insanity at a later date this [TS]

  summer [TS]