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154: A Rich Toddler’s Toy

 

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00:00:01   JavaScript just makes me sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1">TS</a>]

00:00:03   of course we got a for loop with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05   iterator that's great good language for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5">TS</a>]

00:00:09   RI equal zero I less than words that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   length i plus plus seriously that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   every sea-based language come on oh wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   no not necessarily it already even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   got objective c kit has been interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   / collections without an explicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/21">TS</a>]

00:00:22   iterator for many many years now in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24   it's been like seven different versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   of the iterating over collections even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   PHP has that just depressing every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   single javascript library influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   their on each thing you know and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   the es6 and all the other you know yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   maybe even the later version cs5 have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   stuff like this but then you gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   back down to just the very bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   javascript is the new PHP I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   don't forget to use triple equals avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49   those corporations we should probably do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/49">TS</a>]

00:00:53   some follow-up so chris adams in rodents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   tell us about audio bus do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   talk to us about that John sure was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   think it was Marco who misled us on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   last program yet that's what about audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   bus being a network thing chris says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   audio was never relied on network back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   for interprocess communication there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   blog post by Michael tyson i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   one of the creators will put a link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14   the show notes and it explains that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   earliest versions of us used to midi sis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/76">TS</a>]

00:01:19   text messages which allow for arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/79">TS</a>]

00:01:20   buffers of data to be sent across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   minibus later migrated to mock reports I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   know what those are which apples many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   messaging is built on top of so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   audio boss audio processor is getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29   bad rap on last episode is not as crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/89">TS</a>]

00:01:33   as we made it sound and how about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   internet audio framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/96">TS</a>]

00:01:37   yeah and so the last episode we're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   talking about supported better supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42   AP is rather not that put random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   third-party thing is bad necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   especially since this building on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   existing facilities like the midi thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48   and mach port structure part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   colonel that's underneath the iOS and OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   10 and apple TV OS and the watch OSN so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/113">TS</a>]

00:01:57   on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   well there is added in ios7 to the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/118">TS</a>]

00:02:03   unit framework something called interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   audio IA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   that enables a the ability to send midi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   commands and stream audio between apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   on the same device and so if there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/131">TS</a>]

00:02:14   bunch of applications that support this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16   mechanism as I imagine there are after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   iOS 7 things like you know virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   effects pedals you know for audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   applications that you can send a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   audio for one out together but of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   says marker pointed out last time skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   doesn't support these type of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/149">TS</a>]

00:02:30   probably is never going to support these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   type of things so there's still a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33   for and officially supported by the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   way to route audio arbitrarily because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   all the audio is going through or the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   are being over the is aware that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   happening and the routing capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/163">TS</a>]

00:02:44   are probably in there which is how tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   like loopback and audio hijack work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   their magic but they're the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   they're using private api's makes them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   little bit dangerous that too to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/173">TS</a>]

00:02:58   over the long term home so be better of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   apple instead of you know instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   forcing every single application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/183">TS</a>]

00:03:04   developer on an entire system to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   to a new API especially those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10   applications don't consider themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/190">TS</a>]

00:03:11   audio apps like the most is a geyser for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   people who are making music applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   to work together it would still be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   for the OS to expose the mechanisms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   are so clearly there to control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   audio routing at the ls level rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   than just the individual app level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   cooperating with each other through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29   US so Marco tell us about lightning only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   headphones as John Casey asked about yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   this is not confusing at all so John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36   Casey asked about something crazy and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   will be talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/219">TS</a>]

00:03:40   so basically he he throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/220">TS</a>]

00:03:44   industry idea regarding the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/224">TS</a>]

00:03:45   the iphone 7 not having a headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48   probably and a future makes headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/228">TS</a>]

00:03:52   are lightning only he said many phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55   come with detachable and replaceable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   cables any chance Apple might make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   replacement cable not just an adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   dongle the idea there would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   apple sells you a eight just a straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   replacement cable for your for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   legacy headphones and so one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/247">TS</a>]

00:04:11   highlighting the rain has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   skinny to plug in the headphones at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   top and instead of just being this cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   feet after the bottom this and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   in the middle they could put a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/257">TS</a>]

00:04:18   good clicker it should be great so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   this is a great idea in in theory in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   practice it would probably not work very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   well because the problem is the the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   of the cable at the headphone at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   earcups end of it that end is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/270">TS</a>]

00:04:33   standard now usually it is either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36   another three-and-a-half a shack just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   like that just like the end by the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   or its it could be a smaller one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   two-and-a-half inch version of the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   and a half millimeter and then around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   you have a similar problem to the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   very first iphone or had that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   plastic surround and you couldn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54   every kind of headphone plug into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   sometimes the plug would be too wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57   like the the plastic around around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   plug would be too wide and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   wouldn't fit around the housing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   the port that problem exists big time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   on headphones with replaceable cables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   we're so often i'd say most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/308">TS</a>]

00:05:12   a headphone can't actually even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   headphone that has a detachable cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   usually can't use another cable made for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/315">TS</a>]

00:05:19   a different headphone usually something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   about it doesn't fit or it doesn't click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   in right after some kind of locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   mechanism or something like that so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   practice the end of the headphone cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   on on the headphone on the earcup is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   standardized enough even among the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   with removable cables to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   possible for somebody to make like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38   general-purpose aftermarket replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   that fits a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   that being said Apple could of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   make like one that works for all Beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   or at least the most common beats don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/347">TS</a>]

00:05:48   have that many popular models they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   cover those and and cover a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   portion of the apple headphones using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   population that is not saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   likely they would do this i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   most likely answer is they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   dress at all and the answer would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/361">TS</a>]

00:06:02   be well by new headphones or use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   adapter do all beats have detachable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   cables my you know I don't know enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   about them to save all do i know many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   them do and and generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   detachable cables are something i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   hope the headphones have and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   always doing them if they don't in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   review because especially reporting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   desk headphones not as necessary because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   you tend not to wear those out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   portable headphones you know they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   constantly being wrapped up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/389">TS</a>]

00:06:30   unwrapped and putting back to taking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   and everything and select there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   of stress on the cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   in the end usually what makes headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/394">TS</a>]

00:06:37   died what makes it fun to go bad or stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   being usable is usually one of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   things usually either the wire phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44   near one of the ends usually the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   and but if it's a permanent cable could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   also frame at the place where it meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   the earcup or if their beats they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   literally break in half because the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/412">TS</a>]

00:06:55   literally because if you're if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   if you have a plastic headband when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/417">TS</a>]

00:07:01   you put headphones on the headbands to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   stretch out a little bit and that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   it's constantly being stretched and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   stretching stretching and rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   stress of that if you have an all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   plastic headband very often results in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   the headband cracking right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/432">TS</a>]

00:07:13   middle that is usually how bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   headphones break good headphones usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   eventually break is the cables go bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   somewhere on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   alright anyway we have some super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/439">TS</a>]

00:07:24   important follow-up the internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   prosper possibly the country or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   even the world would like to know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   what's going on with your destiny had we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   talked about my when I had to move my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38   playstation 4 off of my plasma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   television onto a separate gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   monitor because i was playing destiny a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/462">TS</a>]

00:07:43   lot and I noticed that the HUD is up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46   the screen while playing destiny was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   burning into my plasma screen so i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   to evict the entire console from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   television which is kind of a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52   because it looked way better my TV that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/472">TS</a>]

00:07:53   doesn't this terrible little monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   that i'm using right now but when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   moved it away i also set a calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   reminder for a year in the future to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   course mom it reminding me to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/482">TS</a>]

00:08:06   whether the Destiny HUD has finally worn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   off of my television because of what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   heard from people had people have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   same model as me is that yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   retention is a problem but in most cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   it's not actually permanent it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   takes forever to go away so it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   i'll put a thing for years some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   say it took many months some people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   took multiple years so i figure i'll put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   a reminder for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   it's not like I forgotten about it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/507">TS</a>]

00:08:28   watching TV and I've been looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   fact i'm always looking my television i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   was noticing that the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   cartoon network along with that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   complained about impact shows was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   burning in anyway this is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38   anniversary today I think probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   day so I took a look at my television in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   the various ways that you can do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   you put in solid colors behind it and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   pure white screen and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/528">TS</a>]

00:08:49   and i can say that the from a normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/529">TS</a>]

00:08:54   setting distance if I didn't know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   the HUD was supposed to be I wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   able to see it i think a normal person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   would not be able to see it I can barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   see only the superb are the big bar that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   feels with a with color as your super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   gets charged up and turns the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   for charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11   I can barely kind of make out where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   used to be no other part of the hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   visible and that even like I i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   really close to television like am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   just imagining that it's there because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   remember where it was trying to love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25   so I its it is almost entirely gone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   can totally see the big c and the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   bit of the end cartoon network's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31   a good you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   thing to compare it to like I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   the CN and Cartoon Network has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   banned from this television as well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   but so I say that the the estimated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/577">TS</a>]

00:09:41   experiment is not coming back to my TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   ps4 is not coming that evo x I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   move back for individual game or two but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48   i won't play destiny over there anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51   it has faded substantially so what look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   like a permanent image retention was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   actually permanent just took a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   really long time to go away so i suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   i put another calendar on him for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   from now or visit for a second year to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   see if it's really really gone but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   some point is one replaces TV with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   fancy old one so people need to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/606">TS</a>]

00:10:07   making better televisions the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/607">TS</a>]

00:10:11   every episode people to start making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   better television they do John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   Syracuse's our noses the bad time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   tvs trying to wait about I i bought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   felt like i bought at the right time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   about the peak of the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   generation of televisions and now just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26   got just endure this until we can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/627">TS</a>]

00:10:28   yeah it does seem like you bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29   probably the best 1080p plasma that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   ever exist and probably the best plasma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/632">TS</a>]

00:10:35   that will ever exist and now you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   kind of have to wait for like when 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   gets non stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   well yeah they got to work out all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   HDR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/642">TS</a>]

00:10:43   stuff and work out their standards there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   and then get the the old kinks worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   out like there was a fancier model than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   the 1i got but had started lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   brightness and so I sacrificed and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   was also more money and I was like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   very similar it's really too close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   call and I think the extra brightness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   will be a what i want to be i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   pretty much at the right time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   lucked out with the the fan noise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   everything which I was afraid of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   turned out not to be an issue especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/666">TS</a>]

00:11:07   compared to my previous television but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   right now I when I finally did read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   on all the tvs and see us and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   and now it's like just a battle over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   high dynamic range standards and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   know that all those different standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   and which channels are going to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   what for broadcast and we'll netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   supported and what things the ultra HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   blu rays are supporting and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   television manufacturers are and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   just it's a big mess i really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   just be settled and then it and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   course i'll let you have to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   have to make a few generations always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   before they get that worked out so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   long way to go here I mean a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43   HDR standards are being supported by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   televisions the can actually display the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46   entire range of the HDR stuff yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   yeah two or three years probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   now just to prevent us from getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   crudload of email would you mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   reminding listeners what TV you ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   I oh I don't remember the name for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   panasonic a vt60 excellent the zt60 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/720">TS</a>]

00:12:04   the fancy this is the slightly fancier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   alright thank you very much now do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   want to tell us about pirate eye patches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   because we got a surprising about 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   back about pirate eye patch is never in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   my life did I think we would be getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   this series about pirate eye patches on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   the accidental text podcast but here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   I opened the door the pirate eye patch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   organized well finish closing here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   the first thing to point out which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   not something we discussed last time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   not whether or not the things we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32   about a pirate eye patch is helping you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   see in the dark or actually you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   was actually true doesn't actually help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   you see in the dark as we didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   the Mythbusters episode about that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   the larger issue of did lots of pirates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   have eye patches and the consensus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   that seems to be probably not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   there's no evidence of that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   reason we think that is because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   Hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   and various movies and stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   famous pirates and black beard and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   that other business or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   historical records of parts like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   there a lot of one re odd parts were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   the Pirates wearing eye patches i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03   see better under decks there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   evidence for that so that is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06   probably really powerful you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   not really based on anything but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   other part that we're talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   does that actually help you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   underdecks and this I think is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   example of what i would call testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   versus explaining some somebody sent us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   a link to this other podcast that had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   was I forget what it's called but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   like acuminate I podcast we asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   questions that an expert on to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   and the question was like hey if you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   an eye patch over your I would that help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   you see better because 1i will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   adjusted to the dark or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   then the person on the show said their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   answer contained all correct information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   but didn't really lead to the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   conclusion and the idea was that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   keep one eye under an eye patch and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   other eye out of it it's not as if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   eye on the eye patch of the people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   going to dilate massively and the eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   out of the eye patch that people's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   going to because in general if one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   your pupils is way bigger than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/837">TS</a>]

00:13:58   you probably just got hit really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   you should see a doctor like they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   tend to be the same size favors called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   consensual response or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   that your pupils are basically you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   heard on all the television shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   know are equal and reactive when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   did a little nightlight thing in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   eyes to make sure that a your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   respond to light by you know you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   getting smaller and be that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   equal if one of them stays open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20   they want you to go to the doctor really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   quickly right and so they said therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25   the whole idea of our iPad is silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28   because it's not as if the one under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   eye patch is going to have a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   dilated people just waiting for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   go under decks and flip up the eye patch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   right now what the Mythbusters did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/874">TS</a>]

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00:21:17   in and included a picture this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   professional level follow up right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   included a picture of exactly where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   serial number is on his visa mount imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:27   and so it turns out it is if you flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:31   the entire machine upside down its kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   of printed in there right by the fan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   that the exhaust or intake in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   that is exhaust intake is it is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   bridge in the bottom enough so anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   that's where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:42   as it turns out i was waiting for Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   smell to let us know but apparently he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   not caught up on the show I'm very upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   him but James McCain has saved the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:50   so thank you James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51   i remember back in the day speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   serial numbers that if you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   certain repairs done to say your laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   mac the serial number would change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   because they give you a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   motherboards a pop or whatever and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   that's still the case you especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   that's why i was asking if this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04   sticker or etched onto the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   could end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   I mean you could end up with that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08   replaced the guts of your imac with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:11   machine that has a different serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   number than the one that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:13   etched into the metal on the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   which can be very confusing to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15   involved if you're not aware that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   think i remember we actually had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:18   repaired only that maybe to a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   ibook maybe like my mom's why I book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   something we had some repair and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   said just so you know your serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25   will be changing but even though have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   the same external case anyway I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   know if that's still an issue but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   always struck me as weird it that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:32   would attach the serial number 22 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:36   physical device but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   connected to the innards of the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   you could end up in these are scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   where things are wrong i think they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   also like I don't know what does nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   for geniuses consensus I think they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   to be able to change the serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   of your motherboard by like flashing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   back to the old value but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   if that's the thing that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   yes so as a friend of the show Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   hacking in the chat is saying crap i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   lost now they have to reseal realize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   boards and usually that comes with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   sticker you put over the edge serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   number also the tipster the chat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   saying the serials change for laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:08   they will often swap the bottom cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   with one that has no cereal like to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   you a sticker all the Indian the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   indignities yeah we we fixed your mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:18   which by the way here's a sticker to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:19   over the the beautiful laser etched in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   serial number that's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   no thanks yeah i would mean the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   thing is that they're you mean on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:26   laptops is it a problem on the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   at least they're like hidden away in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29   places that you'd never see it but if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   sits on your laptop like now the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   ones that's on the outside on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36   we you would totally see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   well as I'm getting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   thing that has no serial numbers and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   can be like steve jobs with no license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:41   plates on his car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:42   yeah totally off the grid untracked by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   Apple serial number readers I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   untraceable except every other aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49   trees will accept by all the software i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:54   just love how deeply offended you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:55   are about the thought of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56   sticker on your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   look either you're a sticker person or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   you're not if you're not the idea of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   sticker on there is like is horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   that's the whole reason we buy max we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   wouldn't have intel inside and video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   power all these like powered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   invention by asus like all this stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   so they put on their computers then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   on the pc world and here we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   that if you are a sticker person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   probably want better stickers then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   stupid apple secret them open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24   alright so moving out of follow-up apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   earnings were as we record last night it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   turns out they made a lot of money go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33   but there's a couple things that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   are interesting first of all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:38   guidance for iphone sales is down a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   so they haven't said if I if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   understood things correctly they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   said that they've sold less iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   already but they are expecting to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   SI phones in the next quarter is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   accurate as compared to compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   year-ago quarter right unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   there were a number of reasons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   liking the last year they there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   some overflow from the holiday quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   that was very strong like some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01   happen in the next in you know the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   quarter and so we're not going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   that this year and also last year's tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   of pent-up demand for the bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   phones and this year that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   alleviated and then there's currency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   fluctuations and economy fluctuations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   and everything else and I do we care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   doesn't matter well i mean i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21   we care about the details in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22   that the people of financial called do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   like tell us exactly why this quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   will be weaker than ever but like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   looking at a Jason sex college course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   with all the pretty graphs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32   everything you just look at the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   the 24 according to a quarter moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   average graphs and try to get a shape of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   the lines of the various products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39   how they're doing and it's some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:42   our job because a lot of it is revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   instead of units in these graphs but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   can get a kind of idea of where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   company is that with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   various product lines you guys looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   at this page mhm like look at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   revenue for quarter moving average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   showing the total and the iphone ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   and the mac mhm right so wait you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:01   picture of the company here the total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   line shows you the company still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   you know from the lower left of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:07   upper right more or less if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:08   enter a trend line growth right good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11   then we're gonna come from using his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   iphone line that is going up but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   starting to get a little hump at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   of it not you know it's not going hockey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   stick it upwards now starting to go more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   like you know ski mobile monkey know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:27   whatever you want to call it a mound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   right the the slope is decreasing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   along the bottom you have the mac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   always on these graphs looks like just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   flat line because the fluctuations the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   mac is so low below the iphone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   fluctuations are barely visible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   maybe at the ipad which like starts off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   around the same as the mac makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   tentative bid to go to the higher parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:47   of the chart and says nevermind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   actually dips below the mac in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   recent year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   yeah this was not a good report for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   ipad no yes look at that look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   ipad one look at ipad units for quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   moving average that now it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00   it's like you know it's a it's hump it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   an upside-down you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:04   it starts at the bottom goes up top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   starts going down again and now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   getting like an actual proper hump but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   think is a better one later on if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:10   ever see like the ipod graft your single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   graph with the ipod on it to the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   just looks like it comes out of nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:16   makes this big lump and goes back down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   to basically zero it makes a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   mountain in the graph like hearing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   the ipod oh nevermind had a good run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26   yeah it's over the course of many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   years but like that official can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   that graph the things that struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:30   striking out looking at the ipod is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   that the ipod is like it's hump is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   smaller than the ipad some for similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   size to the iPads and we thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   ipod was this whole big world changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   apples the ipod company kind of thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   is nothing compared to the iphone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   problem with all these graphs as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45   you put the iphone the graph it totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   blows the y-axis and you can't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   anything anymore because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   ridiculously huge make so much money so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   many units that everything else starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   to kind of even out but anyway I I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   one thing I put in the journals about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   this is I think the ipad is the the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:02   story that i'm interested in at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   and learning the results yet one also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:06   want one thing before it before we move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   onto the ipad is obviously the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   the company you know the iphone is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14   most important thing in the company by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   numbers and then by many other metrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   it by a longshot it's not even close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   like it says it down here in on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   charges cause it's the iphone made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   sixty-eight percent of the revenue in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   the entire company the average selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   price of the iphone is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   important to the company's financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   outlook and this is why you know it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:39   I when I make predictions or when i try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:40   to explain things that that use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   iphone average selling price as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   justification for why Apple did or might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   do something this is this kind of shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   you why that might override decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   from Apple about things like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   actually best for the customer or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   actually might be the best product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   because it's everything's in balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   with apple with any company everything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   in balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   no company is like pure good are pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   evil everything's always these you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   contending factors that are that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   a trying to reach equilibrium but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13   there's there's always the always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   contention between them i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   contending is a word but it is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:18   anyway so with Apple they're always kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   of fighting between what they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   you know what's possible to make what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   they can ship on time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   what's profitable and what's best for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   the customer in the case of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   iphone average selling price i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   they are definitely willing to do moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   that will raise the average selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34   price by a substantial amount even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   it's kind of crappy for the customer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   I think you can look at the 16 gig base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   size of the phones as one of the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:45   examples of this that there is almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   other justification for that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   look at almost every other reason people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   get for that back when we all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   disgusted two years ago or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   you can you can rule almost all them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   by other supporting reasons that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   like well we buy all these phones in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   company and no one ever uses more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   16 gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   well you could also say a lot of phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   don't use the ear positive in the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   but they still include them like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   or you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:10   no your company doesn't use necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   like 3d touch but that thing's in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   phone to like so you can look at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   part of it and you can say like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   don't use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   that's not necessarily a reason why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   16 gig thing has to be there and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   sucking be problematic for so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   people anyway so Apple is willing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   possibly i wouldn't say forced to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:30   there's their strong pressure for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   to keep that iphone asp up and growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   and so for them to to do things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   will increase the average selling price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   by even a little bit it matters enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   and there's huge motivation to do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   so you look at something like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:45   headphone jack thing and we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   saying Apple always includes headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   in the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   what if this fall the iphone 7 comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   with no headphone jack and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   include headphones in the box then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   huge portion of iphone buyers are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   go spend 30 more dollars when they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00   that phone that's gonna be attachments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   that counts towards the average selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   price i think of the phone itself anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   however they can't really account for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   that they're going to make a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   money if they do that you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   look at the cynically and you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11   you know you can say like Apple will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   this for sure because it'll make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   more money and it sucks for us or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   can look at it the opposite way and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   can say Apple always wants to do what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:19   best for customers they would never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   that for that reason i do that the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   is somewhere in the middle there so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   have to consider that meat and we look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   at what Apple does with a product line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   especially in regard to the iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   how that impacts their profitability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   even for kind of sucks for us and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35   this financial stuff that comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36   every quarter is a perfect reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   they have very strong reasons to to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   some contention there don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44   they're so wet average selling price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   because they have in the past I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   things that have heard there is a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48   cross selling price in their products to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   you know like the iPad Mini is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   example but margins I feel like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   their those decisions are just as easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   explained if not better explained by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   margins because like the 16 gig think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   the average sales price selling price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   argument is this is going to push pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   up to the bigger model because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04   don't feel like they can fit in 16 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   also just result in more people like 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   you don't quite know example doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   break it down like that for us right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   surely one thing it does is increase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   margins because it's like 64 already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   good margins and by keeping the lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   116 you know like and try keeping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:20   price is basically the same that 16 gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   they've including on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   the phone for years and years it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   got to be getting cheaper for them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   get the phone price hasn't been dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   year-over-year over here so their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   markets go up and I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   really sensitive to their margins their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   margins of things like forty percent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:34   something across the board on all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   stuff so even if they have to drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:39   average selling price by selling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   ipad mini I bet they're very sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   about what are the margins on the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   mini how can we bring that down by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   putting crap your stuff in it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47   that's kind of always what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   can we sell you something with last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:53   year's technology and in some aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   because it saves us money whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   like putting the the creditor camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   the ipod touch that's not subsidizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:00   they have to have to maintain their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   margins or you know whatever they put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   their low end phones or even on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   highest end phones will keep the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   is more or less the same but will give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   you 16 gigs for years and years because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   every year that gives us a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   more on the margins and like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   Marko any anything you do whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   average selling price of margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16   multiplied by the number of phones they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   sell is a tremendous amount of money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   now that's a lot of what this call was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   about was like a foreign exchange rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   and you know various other quote unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   head winds these fluctuations and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   the dollar is valued against the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   currencies in the world as you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   seems like it's not that big a deal it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   not like we're in some financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:37   meltdown where the dollar is like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   worthless or worth ten times more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   the other currencies in the world right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   but even my new movement and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   foreign exchange rates x apples revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   equals these tremendous number of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   things that's all getting thrown around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51   on Twitter like the amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   Apple lost due to currency fluctuations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   is larger than the amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   facebook made the entire year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   something like that like just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   numbers are so mind-bogglingly huge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   any like the fluctuations in the chart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   looks like nothing like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   it's a few pixels lower or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07   like those pixels are billions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   billions and billions of dollars so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   it's it's mind-boggling even consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   this and that's why I'm so glad another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   financial world because trying to judge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   Apple as a from a financial perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   is just so so weird because of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:23   the things they value seemed so out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   whack with the things that like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:27   regular person would value about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   company all they make a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30   they're profitable to have lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   in the bank boy that must be good stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   like no where's the growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   yeah this is like when something happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2076">TS</a>]

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00:39:29   love my ipad mini and is Mike weird in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2369">TS</a>]

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00:41:25   they could possibly need but some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   the weird people need a truck not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   add pros the truck but the entire ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   line is now revealing itself as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   truck was everyone else is saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   know what the phone is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   the phone is all I need phone does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   everything i want and then in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   realm that you could say it's not a rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   tell their story what about the non-rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   toddlers I think tablet still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   role for you know for everybody for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:49   little kids in particular this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   great that's like you know a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   little child's toy but this is my cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   android tablets they can watch youtube I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   think like if i replace my kids iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   with like $99 android tablets just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:59   played youtube they will be mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   satisfied like that's mostly what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   do with it is used to watch youtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04   doesn't take too much to run youtube so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   in the current the current life of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   ipad product line they seem like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:12   know a a product that is as a much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   narrower appeal then the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   that's what they're really competing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   with is the phone not the laptop at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   point or whatever so it in that light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   I think it's a good move for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   finally gotten off its button down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   ipad pro which by the way doesn't factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   at all these results and I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   expect them to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   I mean factor somebody like the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   came at the tail end of the results that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   we're looking at right here but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   that's not a mainstream product right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   it's never you know so anyway the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   is going to be a truck make a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   track for crying out loud right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   what I mean that's I mean like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45   the in the in the original analogy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   pc or that you know that like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   the computer was the truck and the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   know iOS devices were the cars and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   think like I think the pc still is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   truck and the ipad is like the maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:01   El Camino or like that whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   well that's your room half truck thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   oh god I know exactly what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   about by can I can't place the Baja [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   that's it is yes it's like it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   it's neither a great car nor a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   truck it's it's kind of in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   there do it there's maybe there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   reason why the El Camino is not made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:21   the subaru baja is not is not the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   popular car I had nobody looks at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:27   subaru baja and said this is the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   of cars you know the same way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   everyone looks at the ipad and says this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   is the future of computing but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   what it is like a totally is like yet no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   it totally is i mean we we have borne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   out one way when they said that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:40   mean like us like that a thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   not a PC because it's totally not a pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   right that you interact with mostly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   touching and it is the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   computing because that's what everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   does it but it's also that they do it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   their phone it's like always the tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   separate thing for the phone or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   just the same exact thing as the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   to get a bigger size and it is but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56   like why would you think that bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   size so most people don't most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2638">TS</a>]

00:43:59   especially the big honkin phones most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   people that's all they're ever gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   need like the pc is still this separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   separate thing but if you just set aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   the pc entirely and just look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09   computers that most people use for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10   person their personal computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   their smartphones at this point and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   would you ever need one that's bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   than your big phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   well that's kind of like the truck of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   the of the phone were like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   pretend pcs don't exist which basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   as far as my kids are concerned they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   might as well not exist like so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   kids like like your parents have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   computer but why would you like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   waiting to see if my kids will ever ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   to have their own computer they asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   have their own iOS devices and phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   without any prompting very very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   none of them even said hey I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:38   have my own computer because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:39   computer is something that your parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   you so it's categorically different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   that's why I'm refocusing and saying now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   forget about that crap that your parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   use that you don't understand that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   some other room has this thing attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   to it with a with or without a wire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   think about your world of computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   which is a bunch of these screens most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   of them are like I just want to phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   can talk my friends I can I can watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59   youtube videos I guess music I'm good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   go right and maybe i'll go into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   parents room to type the papers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   whatever but sometimes they might want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   something bigger to do more truck like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   things and i'm not entirely sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   this upcoming generation is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   occur to them immediately to sail now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   any DPC rather they might say I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:19   weird needs so I want one of those big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   fancy iPads now that the subaru is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23   by that was the brat but anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   they're they're both true the brad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   the very old one which is actually what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:28   i was thinking of in the Baja the newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   one is actually called the brat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   yes they read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34   it's written on the side of it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   we're a little like a c-pillar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   equivalent on the pickup truck hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   thing can't imagine why they changed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   yeah but like the reason that i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45   apt is because we all recognize that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   ipad is not a great truck and yeah I Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   Pro is a step in the right direction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52   say give us an even bigger screen gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   a stylist make more room for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55   multitasking stuff that you've added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   right it's a baby step in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   direction to really being like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   gonna go truck go all the way but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   if they succeed in that endeavor even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   they say oh now the ipad is the truck of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   the new family of computing devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   because this entire family collectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   as the future of computing and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   people need to do fancy stuff like say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   run xcode on their iPad or wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   they're going to be doing 10 years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   outright does that suddenly means this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   ipad sales curve that we see making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   big humping on talent was gonna reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   know because most people don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   trucks like nothing nothing can save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   truck from being the truck nothing can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   save the computer that most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   need nothing is ever going to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   mac pro like sell like the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   nothing is ever going to hockey stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35   any of these things up and so for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   for the ipad product specifically just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   use pogo stick as a verb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   that's right I did it it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   well-established have on the show my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   nothing is going to change the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47   inherent nature of of that the and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   even the pc is like what if i pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   replace all the pcs go look at the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   trendlines those aren't great either the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   only thing that is going that has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   going upward like a hockey stick has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   been the phone and even the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:00   loving off a little bit at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   point and the reason the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:03   leveling off I feel like not that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   specifically but eventually with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:06   everybody eventually there's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   certain number of phones you can sell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   the world once every single human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11   everything human alive babies adults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   everybody has a smartphone then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   just fighting over how many you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   they're just fighting of who gets this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19   album right so you can have a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   percent market share I cell phones every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:22   single human alive in the planet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   you're never gonna get more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   right so eventually all these curves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   have to level off and smartphone really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:28   is a type of product that can have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   kind of penetration so I when I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33   the ipad curve and I see it going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   and I see the phone leveling off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   phone is like well Apple you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   compete with the other phones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41   out there to make sure you maintain your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   market share in the ipad i just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44   like it is slowly growing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   it's destiny as the truck of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   world of computing but I just just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   it should be a better truck i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   some of what you just said but I i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   i see a better future for the pc than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   that I think you do and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   do and you and again I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   right it's not going to be it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   going to really go up from from where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   has been you know I i think it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   go down a little bit and then just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   of level off at some point where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13   the pc really is the general utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   computing device and and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   incredibly powerful and there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   many things that you know we we can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   call them edge cases we can we can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   like you know like you like you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   you look at so much of of what iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   devices can't do and so many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   seem like well almost no one needs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   and that's true but almost everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:37   needs like one of those things and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:40   kind of like that the world of of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   who need computing computing tasks or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:47   abilities that the iOS devices and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   that that worldview of computing can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   address is a pretty big group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   so i think the computer will always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   relevant in the same way like Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   has always been relevant they used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   dominant and the only game in town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   now Microsoft is this kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   mostly ignored boring company that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:10   one talks about but that still has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11   great business and still you know very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14   useful to a lot of people no one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   talked about microsoft but their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   is still very very popular it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   financially seemingly ok and the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   like a lot of people relying on stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   together worked on and i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   pc in general whether it's windows or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   mac and I don't make that distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   right now I like the pc in general is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:35   general purpose it is so capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   it is so unbounded by so many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   restrictions that modern mobile devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   have it both physical and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   restrictions there is always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   a market for a more customizable more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:51   open architecture more like hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   diversity kind of platform because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   there's always going to be edge cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   and as these mobile devices get smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:01   simpler more lockdown fewer ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04   everybody come on you know if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   all the all the stuff that we celebrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:07   as consumers as like oh wow this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10   great is getting thinner and lighter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11   and everything is even more lockdown was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   before thanks a lot like this all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16   is very powerful in certain ways and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   you're making something that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:19   sell as many units as possible to as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   many people as possible that is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   way to do it and that's that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   keep working i always say never bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   against the smartphone's very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   but i don't think that has to come at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31   the expense of the entire pc business it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:35   will come at the expense of some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:36   pc business but again I don't think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   not a lot of people are saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   what I don't even need of computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   anymore i'm just going to use my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45   for everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46   some people say that with the ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   so the ipad is certainly more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   threat than the phone is but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   it's much more likely that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:55   people who are still using PC's today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   even when good tablets are available i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:01   don't see a whole ton of them making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   that jump if they haven't already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   what those people died i guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   the way it works those people died and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   the people who were formerly using PC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   like we're waiting for maybe not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   ipad specifically but tablets in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   the idea that something without the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   paradigms and the complexities that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   currently associated with the personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   computers that tablets can eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   replace them and that maybe eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   the things that we think of as tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   now will eventually be called pcs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   to distinguish them from the phones but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   they won't because they won't be running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   windows are running OS 10 they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   have that they won't have like discs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   that you mount and volumes and expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:42   file systems and all the things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   associate with personal computing now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   like that's why I'm starting its do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   important to differentiate between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   ipad is a product which apple may never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50   get their act together on right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53   tablet is a whole the idea that a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   computing device should be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   appliance like and probably also mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   visiting with the moore's law stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   having lots of headroom to put powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:03   he hungry things and there is fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   at a certain point you can't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   certain point we need another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08   technological breakthrough to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   we compute and if we can't do that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14   you just basically say well the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   cpu and the entire world that's in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:17   battery-powered device and we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   figured out how to make faster because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20   we have very bad into quantum computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   or optical computing or anything yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   in the meantime enjoy your quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   pc which is basically a big honkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:29   tablet because that's what are the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30   generations of children know how to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   and they have no idea what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33   you're doing with that freaking mouth I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34   just want to touch the screen right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   whether Apple is the one that does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37   to somebody else long-term after we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   all dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40   i think the the total market for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   who need to computing besides using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   appliances in their home and their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   will probably about the similar size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:49   the quote-unquote pc market today but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   would expect tablets to slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   cannibalize that but maybe the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   line on the graph stays about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   while above it floats all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58   mass-market devices but that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   where the tablets are battling down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   there with the pcs who is going to who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:05   is going to be to get these people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   need more than a phone can do their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   who who's going to serve them and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   now it's the mac vs windows computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   versus a whole panoply of tablets vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   surface vs chromebook sources you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   all these things that are like pcs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   post pcs battling and I just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   give the edge to the ones with less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   legacy crap that are more understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   for people to use even if right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   they're just not powerful enough as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31   talked about the last show to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   replace those i think i think we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   gone by the time it happens by just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   at my kids and my kids kids having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:39   television is gonna be I can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40   think of a good analogy but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   it's going to seem like having like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   plow in your backyard to tell the fields [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   i don't know it seemed the same same but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   you know I agree with you John more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   I do Marco that I think that the pc as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   we know it again like Marco said Mac or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   PC that the personal computers we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   it is not terribly long for this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   for almost everyone and i agree John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   that the future is going to be touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:03   the futures or you know something after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   touch or VR writing or Bihar well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   think the future is not the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11   beautiful new imac that i just bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   myself but what I'm where I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   trouble is why then is the ipad so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:20   sharply down like I understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   you're saying is powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   if it's not doing enough right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   she's if the IP it really is the futures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28   don't you think it would at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   maintain or not have such a stark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   downward slope now because i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:35   misfired on the ipad i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   they they thought things were further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   along than they were and so there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   the initial burst of like a this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   future everyone's going to love it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   never realized you know what i can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45   all the same stuff on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   especially when the phones got bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   and more powerful than was like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   nevermind just get those ones to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:51   kids like it sits like a burst of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   enthusiasm followed by the realization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   that it does not provide enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   additional value and so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:58   why I feel like it's tapering off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   well I think there's I mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   number of factors here first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   think that the the value of a tablet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   general if you use it for productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:09   tasks then the the ipad is is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:13   competitive but i think what most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   use tablets for is entertainment and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   think i'm not saying you can't do work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21   on ipad but i think a lot of people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22   think the market bears that out that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   lot of people use their tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25   primarily for entertainment purposes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   if you're doing that there's a lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   reason to get specifically an ipad over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:34   any other tablet out there and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   tablets you know its cost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37   expenses at tablets are cheaper than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   like gasps big if you can put if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   play play flappy bird and you can watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   youtube videos like yet cover you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   you can play a couple of really simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   games and watch YouTube as far as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   kids are concerned it would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52   indistinguishable from an ipad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   they are not using any of the ipad eNOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   of the ipad they're just literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   watching YouTube forever and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   playing a couple games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   exactly so that's problem number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   that has is that like in phones i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   what people tend to use phones for kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   are a different story and and I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10   want to separately address that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   John you you and and many other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   make predictions about the future pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17   being dead because their kids don't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   want to use a pc but a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   making that assumption on based on kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:25   who are I think too young to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   determination because like if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   about the kind of things that has really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   good at the kind of things computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   really good at ipad isn't very good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   the overlap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36   between like what most kids used to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   computers for which is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   entertainment stuff and like some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   light browsing and light work like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   kind of stuff you can do i have had much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   better but that's not to say like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   if your kid starts wanting to like be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50   productive in different like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   multitasking kind of ways think things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   that you can do on the ipad but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   easier or better on a computer or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   they develop a hobby of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   what I want to try programming that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03   hard to do one right again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   impossible but hard and sometimes aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   possible and so far but you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   there are things that like as kids get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   older if they want to type a type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   paper for school or whatever like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   yes you can do it on ipad but in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:19   ways it's easier on a computer and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20   haven't met any kids who prefer using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   the keyboard on a screen a physical one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   have you met those kids yet because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   exist you know I know they exist but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   what I'm saying is I don't think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   make the call to say kids these days are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   going to ever use computers because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   think his these days are too young to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   know that everything's computers and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38   us to know that well I mean it takes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   takes multiple generations they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:41   just like it takes multiple generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   for turnover like I said we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   going to be that maybe our kids will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   dead because it's the same way that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47   you still do things that your parents do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48   just because your parents didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   takes a while to turn over but I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:54   options available you said the options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:55   available to them let like my kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   all in a house with plenty of Max and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   plenty of iOS devices and the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   reason they ever touch the max is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   play Minecraft on a bigger screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06   maybe that's a valid use cases like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   see they like they like the big screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   but if I had my playstation attached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   the television that probably played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13   their the controller i don't know anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   as we can see from the ipad curve i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   think the current crop of tablets ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:21   and always included are not yet up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   the task of doing things of the cases so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   the kids have to type papers they do end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   up using it or like using Chromebooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   and school or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   the microwave services another take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   this is like hey we're both things at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:32   one where the old computer and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   computer the same time that definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   seems like a transitional fossil to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   but what I'm looking at long-term is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:41   like we're not there yet but that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   the direction things are going and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:44   only takes a couple of generations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   people dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47   before all these concerns that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   on someone listens to this podcast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   a hundred years from now it will seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   ridiculous that we even debating this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   the same way they would seem ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   of something if you're listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   people debate about whether you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   people actually be able to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   computer with the mouse to the real work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   i mean i was alive for that debate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   it was fierce and and people were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   you included in the same things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   well my kids been born into a world with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   mice and they're going to only use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13   myself when i get a job they'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   use a computer without a mouse to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   actual work because the only computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   that miser toy computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   that's just the way things go like so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   maybe it's a it's a pointless thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23   even talk about because of all dead do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   we really care that much but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   it's interesting in light of this ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   graph because it's like the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   future that we think is coming but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   graph shows that it's not here yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36   what the graph may also show is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   Apple may not be the company to to nail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   it because this was their shot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   either they were too early or they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   they just fumbled the ball and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   you know I didn't hit the mark with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   their first attempt this type of product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:51   and you know as we keep saying we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   basically you know totally outplayed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:57   their star product the iphone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   their star product the iphone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   everyone has basically voted with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   wallets Neffe to say this is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:03   want right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:04   ipads you know convinces later maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:07   I'll because like at the same time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   the ipad has been you know going along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:12   and and getting into improving every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   generation the iphone has gotten better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:17   and bigger and the mac has gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:21   smaller and lighter and so it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   really is being squeezed on both ends if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   you if you're willing to carry something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   now especially with the macbook one only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   a little bit bigger than ipad then if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:34   you if you need keyboard and touch input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   and a pc style OS the macbook one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   going to be better for you than an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:41   even an ipad pro at that kind of task on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:45   the lower on the small and if you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   portable entertainment and consumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   and communication kind of device an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:54   iphone is now you know able to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:57   lot of that and especially with the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   plus line it's taking even more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02   potentially and cuz that's has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:03   benefit of its always in your pocket is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   always with you and you probably paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:06   less for it up front then you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   refer not always always benefits so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   being squeezed on both sides then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   being squeezed from the bottom with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   low end because all these cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   tablets that also can play youtube and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   play some games and browse the web all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   those cheaper tablets are coming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   eating the whole bottom end of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   it's it's being attacked on so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   fronts and you know the good thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   two of his friends are owned by apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   and so you know it being cannibalized by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   other parts of Apple so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34   necessarily a horrible thing for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   but I think I I don't see a way out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:40   this for the ipad anytime soon I may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   long-term maybe you're right you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   be right long-term I'll give you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:45   but in in the near-term the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   tend to improve quickly and relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   in computing is like you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   basic hardware specs the speed the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   you know the quality of like the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   and stuff like that like that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3718">TS</a>]

01:01:59   improves in the short-term the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:03   challenges to the ipad i think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   pretty deeply rooted software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:08   architecture and software limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   and input both of which are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:13   it's also quickly and easily so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   don't think you like to talk about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   how how iOS could get better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   productivity use this it's things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   it'sit's things like rethink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   multitasking and files and hits like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:27   those are big things those take years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   to possibly develop or 2222 realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:34   you need to rethink if you do that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   very slow-moving thing and then input is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   oftentimes not solvable like there just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:44   isn't a way to make like a nine inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   laptop with a keyboard that humans can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   use comfortably you like this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   there's like there's limitations like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:51   that where you're just fighting physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   and you know the physical world and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   just can't win those fights a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58   times and tablets certainly are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   challenging in in regards to have him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   how to fix input how to make input that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05   is that is good for both casual lean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   back on the couch use and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   productivity use and that is a very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:11   problem it might not be possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   solve and it's the kind of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   progress is made very slowly if at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18   now you're talking about cannibalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:19   and thats enough thats a the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20   takeaway of this thing is like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   look at these little lines like you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   at that ipod hump it's like here comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25   the ipod and then it did marks over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   then you look at the mac that like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   time I try to find this graph but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:30   think someone tweeted and i can't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   it but it was a graph over many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   years not just like the last five or ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   years but like from the nineties all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   way up to the current time and you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   at the products and it's like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:41   fireworks like the ipod launches up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   the sky not to higher than its the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44   ground again right and the ipad launches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47   up into the sky and is arcing over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:48   starting to be on its way down again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   look at the phone and if the iphone goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   like an stratosphere with and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   starts leveling off right and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   can't see the other side of that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   are the only line and the entire graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   that is basically has any kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   know uphill slope for the entire length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:05   of it is the mac and it's like way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   at the bottom kind of blending with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   the x-axis you can barely see it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   can see it is little bit higher it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   go up over Europe you are tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   bit and it's insignificant or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   but it's interesting that that trend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   line because it because it started off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   as like the loser in the pc market so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   never had a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   never had a high to come down from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   it has been steadily gaining on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   has been gaining market share while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:29   windows loses it whatever so it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   have a good graph you know an uphill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   climb even though it's insignificant but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   we look at all those other things what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   Apple is hoping for when you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   is alright so Apple makes products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   make these little arcs right every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:41   product has a lifetime the iphone arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   doesn't seem like it's even half over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   maybe it's exactly half over right maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47   you would extend that graph out however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:49   optimistic and pessimistic you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:50   be about the iphone arc you draw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53   what you need is another lump you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   another big arch in that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   so what is the new product that is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   to come like the watches invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01   because it's to know so who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:02   that's gonna be like but apples whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   thing is what is the next big thing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:08   is the next line is going to be on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09   graph maybe i will never grow up as high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   as the phone or whatever maybe we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:12   maybe some be our thing out there maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15   it's the car if you want to do revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:16   because a lot of people have cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   they cost a lot more than a mac or phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   so the ESPYs really good on cars but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23   margins are much lower you know so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   don't know what it is but like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:26   that's one of the reasons that investors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   are cranky about Apple because they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   at all these lines and see all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   little arcs and like all right well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   think we've played this out and we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   pessimistically that the iphone is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37   its peak and how it's gonna go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   so where is the next arc apple and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   now there is no convincing answer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   it's apples job to complement like and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45   agree with you the ipad pro is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   to turn the ipad thing around cause even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48   if if professionals love the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:51   there's not a lot of them right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   have to either let the ipad arc follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:56   its course down to the baseline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   start again within the tablets product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:59   or you need to somehow transform the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   into a tablet is product I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   how you do that like just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   semantically how you could ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   that's why I still feel like the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10   must rise again in a new form some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:13   in the future or if not then maybe Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   losses that someone else does it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   maybe you know who knows what ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   winning this but I just feel confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   that the pc is the past and we are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:25   left the last great pc generation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   already alive of people i mean well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   it also you know a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   people like in our in our walk of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   here and by that I mean geeks like us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   lot of geeks just deny the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:42   fashion and trends in things and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:46   know we try to make everything more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   logical we try to justify things and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   and we don't understand fashions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53   fads really what if tablets have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:58   fat i know this is crazy i know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   sounds like the the champion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   computer trying to optimistically say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05   that the tablet or just a fad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   computers are going to come back you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   know so that i know this sounds crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:10   and i'm not even said I'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   saying I believe this but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   worth thinking about you're not you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:15   not saying computers are going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:16   back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:17   are you just saying tablets are fast two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   separate things right right so I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   it's worth considering though what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   the entire idea of tablets had their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26   peak already and that you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:30   future like the kind of casual the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:33   future of computing was already here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   earlier than that it's the mobile phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   is the smartphone and and that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:40   what if that is really the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:43   the tablets were just kind of this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:44   that for a brief time the whole world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   was kind of like in love with it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   infatuated with but it was actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   a fad and now we're kind of Rosings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   you know what I think I'd rather just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   have a good phone and then maybe a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   laptop also alright I've considered and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   rejected that's fair but but i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:01   lot of people are not considering that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:02   as a possibility but i think i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   data actually like if you look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   ipad sales graph that looks exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   what's going on but that but that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   the ipad that's why keep differentiating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   like there's the ipad which may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   blue it on and then there's the concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   of a screen about the size of a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   paper or bigger that you hold in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   hands and i would even including tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   the screen that's much bigger than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   piece of paper like the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:24   bro that you hold in your hand right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   even a bigger thing that sits on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   desk i would say is basically a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:29   piece of glass that you touch dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   extends down into the portable range but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   I've always said i can imagine a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35   replacement that is like more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   drafting table and just the utility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40   essentially having a magic piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:41   paper that can show anything that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   piece of paper size like what's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   becomes like ninety-nine cents like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   did the computing part of that is so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   know again as the price of compute drops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:50   to 0 of course people are gonna want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   that people want to hold things in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   hand and read them and look at them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   watch a video and maybe that won't be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   ipad anymore maybe it'll be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   that comes in your cereal box that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:01   unroll and it's like there's no and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   say oh that's not a tablet it is though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   it's like basically a screen that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:06   hold in your hand is way bigger than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:07   phone and that is absolutely not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   to die whether Apple has any role at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:12   in that product line remains to be seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   which is why i say the ipad is an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15   question but there's a reason everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   was all gaga like the fat part that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   think you're sensing about tablets was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:20   like oh this is like the science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   books i read this is like those movies i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   saw its like the future like how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:25   movies had no you just hold this magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   even before you know flat-screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   existed when everything was all CRT's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   every science fiction story you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   back hundreds of years like oh I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   hold something that looks like a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35   of paper but I can show them any image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:36   anywhere i can see anywhere in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:37   and I can watch moving pictures on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   idea is never going away because it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:41   amazing utility for people like us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   have eyeballs in the front of her head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   and hands that we can hold things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46   with like it's you know unless vr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49   retinal imaging or other any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   like interior mind type thing happens or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   scrapped your eyes thing until that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   comes and wipes all this away having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:59   something big that you hold in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   that is a screen that idea it will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03   die because it has such amazing utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   it just could be that Apple is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   company that he brings that to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   benefits from it or like it gets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   right because if you just play out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   current trends eventually what will it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17   take to have something that to give your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   toddler to watch whatever the equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:20   of YouTube is right maybe that'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23   dollar ninety-nine in a drugstore that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   a rolled-up piece of plastic that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   kid can just do anything they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   when i get somebody gets destroyed us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:30   throw it away right because seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   the the electronics the cost of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:35   electronics and everything to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:37   and access and play video and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   that's going to in our lifetimes be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   incredibly trivial little bit nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:43   you know I was going to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:47   John what what would make the ipad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:50   know cross that hump in and be the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   or burst any tablet but and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:55   just just covered in a lot of ways but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:56   was thinking you know when I got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   first ipad mini so this is two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   now the the ipad mini with retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   display i had given air in my ipad3 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:08   the first full-size iPad with Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   display and I given to our night set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   up with her iCloud account and I message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   account and you know some of the apps i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   thought she would use a lot and I gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   it to her and I think in those two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:22   she is used that ipad 5 or 10 times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:26   because it always ends up that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:29   either what she starts with her phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31   almost always everything she does is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:34   her phone and then if for some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   something she's working on it is easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:39   or just better suited for the truck for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42   her mac then she'll go to her macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   air and do that thing there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   generally speaking for Aaron it's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50   phone and the ipad isn't even a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   in fact most of the last two years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   battery has been dead because neither of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:55   us ever touches it and granted this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:58   only one data point that doesn't exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4318">TS</a>]

01:11:59   make a line by any stretch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   imagination but it's certainly bears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:05   what Apple's results are seeing which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:08   that the iphone is going crazy the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:12   isn't doing that and the ipad is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:13   not even their well-being like but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:16   know by three fair by like unit sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   the ipad in the matter are kind of neck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   and neck right now but at the trendline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   is very clear that the ipad is on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   way down while the mac is still on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:27   yeah barely out of the way I played with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   dice security and tried to give a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:32   of charge that's not the one I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:33   thinking one showed all the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   together all different colors you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   saw the only one that was like steadily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38   climbing up like a snail over the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   of decades was the mac and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   like hugging the bottom of the graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   totally insignificant volumes compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:46   kharghar products but it's like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   still here still call on our way up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   you know that's that's both sad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:54   hardening at the same time and I yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:57   what I think about the car and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   were some rumors about the car this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:00   week everything I think like is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   next thing that's going to I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   imagine what a car line would look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:05   on this graph like imagine they do as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   well as Tesla and they sell you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   some piddling amount of really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   cars two people a lot of money and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:14   self-driving stuff doesn't work yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   because it's not ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:17   like what cars are really expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   so the revenues will be high but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   margins will necessarily be lower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   it's like what does that look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   does does the carline look like the ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:27   line doesn't look that certainly was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:28   more like the iphone line because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   looks like the mac line where claws its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:31   way up or do they just can't the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33   it's a bad idea and they should really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   concentrate on something else like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:36   then the lines we can't even think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:37   the ER is the current ? in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:41   like it's something people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:42   want to do because at this point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   number of people who have done vr stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:45   is just a bunch of gaming enthusiasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   and that will be the case for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   time I don't know what the next big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   thing I remember several years ago we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   were talking on the show like maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   watch is the next big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:57   maybe it is but if it is definitely got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   a slower ramp up its as far as we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:01   well you know like at this point it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   still early right but the watches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   next ipod it in the sense that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:08   listen to the ipod like it was gone now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   but in the sense that like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:11   accessory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   it's something that serves a narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   range of roles very well but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:18   everybody needs the devices for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:19   narrow range of roles and also that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   not going to replace your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   yeah i mean like our maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   wearables in general like it'sit's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:26   it's very difficult to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   something that is ever going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   the next iPhone because the very thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:32   about a phone is that literally every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   every adult in the world probably could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:37   conceivably use one right and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   big market now how many products can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   say that about maybe cars not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:44   because most people don't have cars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   the world have bicycles motorcycles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   lucky and you know whatever like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:49   just trying to think of something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:50   that everybody could find some utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:55   for some values of everybody and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56   very difficult to think about a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   is one like well sure of something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   hold your wrists and tells you the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01   that seems like a brother useful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:02   you could sell a lot of but can someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   for that much money and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:08   you're ever going to be able to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   everybody in the world at 691 dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   which I think was there asking you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:13   I phone 691 dollar watched everyone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   world know like somebody just get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:18   high end of the watch market just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:19   they had behind the phone market i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:21   know i'm i don't know what the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23   thing for apple is but when i look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   these graphs of everyone if i was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   continue the x-axis and your girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30   2016 and extend that out for another 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32   years and let me just draw it continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:35   drawing the lines of all their current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36   product lines i see like how optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:40   can you be with the iphone like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   going to continue to draw the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   line you know it looks like it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:44   thing goes up up in the slow parts love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:46   how do you do that let us draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:47   straight line and into the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   say well smartphones will continue for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4549">TS</a>]

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01:17:32   be waterproof running a bit long so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4652">TS</a>]

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01:18:15   it's on advertise this way but it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4695">TS</a>]

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01:18:19   the headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4699">TS</a>]

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01:18:23   make waterproofness a headlining feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4703">TS</a>]

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01:18:30   losing the headphone jack from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4710">TS</a>]

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01:21:41   phone your water in anyway right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4901">TS</a>]

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01:21:45   something about the phone with respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4905">TS</a>]

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01:21:50   I just don't know if it's the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4910">TS</a>]

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01:22:02   want this to be an advertising feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4922">TS</a>]

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01:22:08   port they need one more generation to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4928">TS</a>]

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01:22:17   there's still lightning port right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4937">TS</a>]

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01:22:27   makes it possible to waterproof it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4947">TS</a>]

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01:22:32   took away their headphone port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   yeah they like because you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   are ways to to waterproof certain ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   and and the design of the poor can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   it easier or harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   I'm sure lightning was probably designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:44   with that in mind with with in mind to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:47   to have future devices be more water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   resistant or to make it easier to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   well it all that being said one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:53   that I find promising about this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:56   one of my common criticisms of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58   design especially recently that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:00   seems to be getting worse honestly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:03   seems like the the newer products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:04   come out oftentimes seem to ignore what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:08   customers actually need like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:09   problems that we face in the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   and what we actually one of our devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   instead you know give us things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   were really asking for even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18   might be nice but just things we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:19   only asking for like you know increased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:21   thinnest and lightest is one more cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22   most common things so you know yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   things like you know like the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   one with it's you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27   controversial keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:30   I'll be nice to it tonight well I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:31   controversial keyboard that's that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   made in the name of thinness it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35   we didn't need to be that the necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   things like the iphone it in the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   example that I can give on the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   battery life where so many people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   love their phone to get better battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   life and most people don't say I wish my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:48   phone was thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:49   in general I I see some I see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51   happening at apple and I'm a little a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53   little saddened by some of this however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:54   if you look at what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:57   people really want out of their iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:59   very high on the list is resistance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:02   damage and the two kinds of damage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   happen most phones is water damaged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:07   dropping damage and so if they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:09   it more more durable and more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:13   resistant to shattering or scratching or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:16   cracking of the glass surfaces and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:19   they can make it more water resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20   that will seriously benefit a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:23   number of customers that is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   promising and that Apple is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:28   trying not only to make things super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:30   thin so Johnny I can be proud of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:31   because it seems like they don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   know what else to do with the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34   designs but they can also at least solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   real customer problems things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:40   really big and really affect a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:41   people so that i think is great and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:44   they're if they're doing stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:45   if they're improving waterproofness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:48   shockproof penis at all those will pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   off big time and an actual customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:53   ok so what's your answer I think that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:56   the headphone port goes absolutely i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:59   think it might even be so far as hey we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   made it waterproof but oops we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   make the headphone port go away it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05   just the way it had to be I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07   probably going to be I don't know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   will be advertised as you know full-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:11   waterproof but i do think we will hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13   something advertised about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:14   significantly increased water protection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:18   for like a better way of phrasing it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   more water resistance i guess i'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   trouble wrapping my mind around how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:25   would work while still having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:27   lightning port I can't help but wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:28   you could we do not only inductive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:32   charging but inductive data I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:35   that's called Wi-Fi well how to chez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   Pierre point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:38   yeah but like I don't think you died I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:39   think they're going to still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41   lighting board and I think lighting port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:42   probably because it's their own part and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:45   they can do whatever the hell they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46   with it and it has always been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47   like a non-traditional sort of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   control port where it's not as if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:51   making aspect for the whole world to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:52   build you tell them with the pinouts are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   you have no control of what's at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:55   other end of those pins because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:56   all like hardwired pins for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58   voltage levels or whatever like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:00   entirely up to the apple so I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:01   lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:02   the least of their concerns like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:03   probably the trickiest parts are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05   the battles around the speakers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:07   microphones and stuff because I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:09   they've done it on the watch already but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:10   to do that and still have a reasonably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   high quality speaker and microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   assembly which they seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:15   concentrating on and recent iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   it all seems a little bit around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   possibility that's why I think like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:20   the past the past few years of devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:22   they have been slowly but surely gain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   expertise in how to do this all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:27   while not telling you anything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   all the only reason we're finding out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:29   about it is because people youtuber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   dropping their phones in the water and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   then fill me getting see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:34   when i was at least gonna start blending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36   them i think that phase is probably over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:38   did you hurt your all the things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:39   the best the best waterproof electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:41   things they just use distilled water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:43   something without any like free ions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:45   whatever so they can conduct electricity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:46   you put present any electronics in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   or so the theory goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   whereas if you use tap water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51   something with minerals or impurities or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:52   whatever that it'll short out your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:54   uh-huh yeah do not put your phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:57   water the lesson like even when if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5217">TS</a>]

01:27:00   make the water-resistant one don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:01   it and I think marco was never trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   give us just a waterproof like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:05   smart to bring up the the dropping thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:07   because Apple is kind of stuck on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:11   one until some kind of materials change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:15   because they picked last for a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:16   they try to keep making tougher glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   the glass that is that's more resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   to to breaking and bending like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   super gorilla whatever glass and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   sap like but bottom line is if you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:27   plastic on it would be super durable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:28   that it would be terrible you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   Johnny I've can handle things now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32   the camera protruding although entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:35   agree with that but uh forget it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37   they want glass because it is it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   nice it feels expensive it doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:42   all scratched up and gross like it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:44   of the great qualities of glass that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:45   love the reason why glasses the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   choice for the thumb the one thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:48   against it is does tend to shatter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:51   you drop it onto asphalt just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:52   way so I don't know how they get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:55   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:55   find because if the whole if the goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   was make it so i can take this phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5277">TS</a>]

01:28:00   throw it on the ground like I'm spiking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:01   the football and it survives make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03   whole thing out of fisher-price plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:04   like it's not as if there's a hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06   disk head to crash inside there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:08   extremely durable all except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:10   fact but it would feel terrible if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:11   made it official price plastic and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   get scratched up and it would look gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:14   and it would be a worse product so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   least waterproof something I can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:19   with dropping not quite sure what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   can do their and instead we all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23   cover our phones in cases that look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25   big fisher-price plastic well some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   people do I mean my case is not saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   my phone that I tell you my wife dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   her her big plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:34   no success that was awhile ago it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36   like a week after she got it and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   like slipped out of her pocket or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   whatever from basically waist height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:41   onto the cement sidewalk completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   shattered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:44   well that's why you get applicator plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:47   yeah well in her defense the plus is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:49   really easy to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:50   yeah well it was her first like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:52   gonna use it was in the silicon case but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:53   that didn't save it but ya know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   shattered we also chatter phones all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:57   time I just thought there's no way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5337">TS</a>]

01:29:00   of that other than to keep leaning on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:01   your last manufacturers to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   stronger and better but the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   until we get transparent aluminum I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:07   guess from the star trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   Wow would that be worth something to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:11   and we're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5351">TS</a>]

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01:29:22   now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25   mean to begin as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:29   it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:32   John didn't research Marco and Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:36   would let down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:37   because it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5377">TS</a>]

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01:29:45   today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5385">TS</a>]

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01:29:51   follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5391">TS</a>]

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01:30:07   Syracuse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:19   why do we still have a liking for why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:23   not go inductive charging and just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25   the hell with it to having a port at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:27   my friend has one of those things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:28   forget what it's called like the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:30   charger or something q I or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:33   use it with his iOS devices a case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   you basically put on your phone and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:36   plugs into your lighting board and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:37   a very thin case because all really has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:39   to do is have a big like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:40   inductive contact thing and you just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   it on he likes it he just put it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44   these little stands and charges that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   would assume slightly slower than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   other things but why do they not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:50   that i don't know i'm not entirely sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:54   it is a clean windows like isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   better in all ways than a wire setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:59   aside performance entirely I is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:02   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:02   I don't think it's better and always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   been a wire because the charging them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:06   takes up more room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:07   yeah it's like imagine imagine if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   traveling with your phone you go to plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:10   it in like a hotel or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:12   look at what is with the watch today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:14   imagine imagine like the watch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:15   bigger basically like bringing the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18   with you is kind of a pain in the butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:19   because that big table and it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:21   doesn't really stick very well to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:23   like when you're like traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25   somewhere that kind of sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:26   where's the phone like you plug in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:27   thing and it holds you can like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:29   swing the phone around like like a rope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:31   from the cord and it holds it i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:35   shouldn't but you probably can and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37   will probably hold like it its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39   accords are just really really practical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:42   in the real world even though they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   totally unsexy and they may offend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:48   sensibilities of the key slice like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   can't everything be Wireless but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:51   reality is like in practice they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:54   just really good really simple really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:57   cheap and they they suffer from very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5517">TS</a>]

01:32:00   of the downsides of inductive charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:03   for like I know speed is actually a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   issue of that how much current you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   get through another charger once safely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:10   and i kinda in that kind of situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:12   and i'm pretty sure that a pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:15   that the court still wins at a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   big margin and looking forward to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   future it would be ideal of our phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:22   charged even faster especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   batteries keep getting smaller it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26   be idealistic if they could charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:27   faster which means more current which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:30   means the capable still win so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:31   capacitors that's all you need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   dr. that supercapacitors that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35   current 5-10 year technology is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37   make a phone started 15 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:38   Emily study together the current across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:40   though but you were mostly interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:42   inductive but i think the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:43   out there is the whole trying to cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:47   the people in the room by carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:48   directing microwaves to exactly where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:50   your phone is sitting in that case you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:51   would go to the hotel you have all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   devices with you and all you do is plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:54   one wall art into the wall and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:56   charge every device in the room at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:57   same time hopefully not cooking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:59   insides when it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   yeah you'd be sleeping five inches away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   from one of them yeah well you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:05   it technically you can do that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:07   sort of i don't know if that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:09   legal but like I'm trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:10   things that like I'm trying to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:12   things that would be with that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14   a clean way because I think we would all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:15   agree that that could work and not cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:18   people you know we're using whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:19   technology want to make up about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:21   future technology that would be win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:23   because it's better than plugging things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:24   in you don't have to have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26   pads with you it does all of them at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:27   once and it's just it's fire-and-forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   like the same way that Wi-Fi is like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   now you know for most people i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33   have to wire my house so I just put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:34   one thing in the corner of my house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   then internet is everywhere people what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38   is one thing in the corner of my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39   and charging is everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   that would be cool i would buy that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:43   it didn't cook me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTOdjJY/5623">TS</a>]