The Accidental Tech Podcast

150: A Mac Pro in Every Pot

 

  but I did see Star Wars last night we [TS]

  talked about that for a while [TS]

  that's old news me and i miss my chance [TS]

  DeMarco seen that it's old news all [TS]

  downhill from there [TS]

  do you understand follow sure we [TS]

  actually have some one person is not [TS]

  have this i don't know this person who [TS]

  lives in Dubai or just knows about the [TS]

  apple store in Dubai but i'm trying to [TS]

  think of a reason why this person is not [TS]

  like every single person in the united [TS]

  states on vacation and not sending us [TS]

  any follow-up but an episode 149 we [TS]

  talked about the foliage walls and the [TS]

  Apple model store things from the 60 [TS]

  minutes television show they showed like [TS]

  oh here's a store where we try out all [TS]

  the different ideas bad apple stores and [TS]

  they have this one wall of the store [TS]

  that had plants like real living plants [TS]

  just sort of cascading down the wall and [TS]

  I thought that would be funny if they [TS]

  actually put that in a store [TS]

  apparently they have this just goes to [TS]

  show that everything they show on 60 [TS]

  minutes has to be something that already [TS]

  exists so there's no secrets are [TS]

  revealed and the apple store in dubai [TS]

  they have a foliage wall so there you go [TS]

  that's super exciting that is a definite [TS]

  reason to visit their just pet the [TS]

  foliage I wonder how that like I mean I [TS]

  guess they have to have people keeping [TS]

  the plants alive but again why don't we [TS]

  get for a bit if it's a good idea why [TS]

  isn't a good idea everywhere [TS]

  why is it only a good idea a desert I [TS]

  don't know [TS]

  beats me I'd it struck me as a little [TS]

  weird although I really did like and I [TS]

  think John you had briefly mentioned [TS]

  mention this when we talked about it i [TS]

  really liked the display case for all [TS]

  the cases the iphone cases where the [TS]

  case is on the outside of what ends up [TS]

  being a drawer so you grab the case and [TS]

  pull the case and then there's a drawer [TS]

  of these cases behind it that was a [TS]

  terrible word picture but hopefully that [TS]

  makes sense i thought that was really [TS]

  clever don't recall having ever seen [TS]

  that before someone did right and I [TS]

  missed I misplace their either email or [TS]

  maybe was tweet and said that those plot [TS]

  door things actually existing store [TS]

  still so basically there's nothing in 60 [TS]

  minutes that they showed you that does [TS]

  not exist in an apple store which is not [TS]

  surprising not surprising that a little [TS]

  bit said [TS]

  that's okay though alright so any other [TS]

  follow-up we need to talk about [TS]

  that's it everyone stone vacation [TS]

  including including us so not only [TS]

  California but everyone is on vacation [TS]

  in california is always on vacation [TS]

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  christmas time has come and passed [TS]

  and Casey has some new toys ladies and [TS]

  gentlemen it's exciting [TS]

  so we have talked about the new Apple TV [TS]

  I now have a new Apple TV and now i will [TS]

  make everyone sit here and listen to my [TS]

  show so outdated thoughts about the [TS]

  apple TV that's right I'll talk about [TS]

  the mac pro later so I got to get back [TS]

  oh god if you're serious then then all I [TS]

  will happily forgo the apple TV talk if [TS]

  that means you will forego the mac pro [TS]

  talk [TS]

  well i have to tell you that about the [TS]

  new micro I got oh dear god I hope [TS]

  you're kidding [TS]

  I don't have any alcohol nearby says [TS]

  it's gonna be a long night for me [TS]

  well on a happier note set up the [TS]

  bluetooth on my new apple TV flawless no [TS]

  issues whatsoever so let this be a [TS]

  lesson children that you never actually [TS]

  do want to have the fear of missing out [TS]

  that i have a chronic case of and you do [TS]

  actually want to wait just a little bit [TS]

  to get something new because i had no [TS]

  problems with bluetooth setup I had no [TS]

  real problems with the remote app [TS]

  although it took me a minute to realize [TS]

  that I needed to do the the software [TS]

  update in order to get it if memory [TS]

  serves [TS]

  speaking of software update at seven [TS]

  o'clock i think this is Christmas Day [TS]

  seven o'clock in the evening on [TS]

  christmas day flawless no issues i [TS]

  connected via ethernet which might have [TS]

  made things a lot easier but that was [TS]

  really nice [TS]

  oh that's what was it wasn't that the [TS]

  software update screwed me up for the [TS]

  remote app i actually did take notes i [TS]

  just didn't read far enough [TS]

  it took me a while to remember that the [TS]

  remote app is paired to your home [TS]

  sharing account and i had not yet set up [TS]

  my home sharing account in the apple TV [TS]

  even after I've done the update and all [TS]

  that so for the life of me I couldn't [TS]

  understand why the remote app wouldn't [TS]

  see the apple TV and then I forget how I [TS]

  figured it out but somehow or another I [TS]

  realized oh no I need to sign into Home [TS]

  Sharing and so once I did that that on [TS]

  that work no problem which was really [TS]

  nice [TS]

  the control receiver for the the remote [TS]

  in general have a bluetooth remote is is [TS]

  wonderful I've learned that from the [TS]

  fire TV stick but it's really great [TS]

  having that bluetooth remote on the [TS]

  appletv as well I also really really [TS]

  liked and maybe we talked about this and [TS]

  i just had a brain fart or something but [TS]

  I really liked that it gave me the [TS]

  option of instead of controlling volume [TS]

  on my TV via hdmi cec or whatever magic [TS]

  it uses I could program and ir remote [TS]

  that it would use it would admit that [TS]

  same ir to change a different things [TS]

  volume which is exactly what i needed to [TS]

  do because i have my receiver doing the [TS]

  the speakers and all that and so I had [TS]

  the remote learn my receivers you know I [TS]

  our profiles or whatever you want to [TS]

  call it and that work no problem and so [TS]

  now the volume controls the receiver [TS]

  which is really awesome i didn't even [TS]

  know that was the thing i didn't like [TS]

  that I had no idea how much battery [TS]

  power the remote has and I at some point [TS]

  or another I saw some dialogue or [TS]

  something that said Oh will tell you [TS]

  when the remote needs charging which is [TS]

  an apple thing to do and that's fine but [TS]

  it was weird that I couldn't even see it [TS]

  when i went digging into the remote [TS]

  setting screens I didn't like and I [TS]

  don't like that there's no native [TS]

  spotify app yes I am aware that there is [TS]

  such a thing as airplay that is what [TS]

  I've been doing with my apple TV for a [TS]

  long time now but it seems to me like [TS]

  there's no reason why couldn't you know [TS]

  select songs or do what happened [TS]

  whatever in a native app or just have [TS]

  the have some sort of scenario wherein [TS]

  the Spotify up my phone controls an [TS]

  instance of it on the TV because that's [TS]

  what Spotify works as I can control the [TS]

  the playback from my computer from [TS]

  Spotify up on my phone and it kinda like [TS]

  the remote app works and its really [TS]

  really awesome and I'd like to not have [TS]

  to have my phone be beaming all that [TS]

  data to the appletv it when it could [TS]

  just do that on its own and on a final [TS]

  note surprising precisely no one [TS]

  oh my god you has plus it's so good it's [TS]

  good it's worth the cost of admission [TS]

  just reflects but to that end I have [TS]

  like four apps on this thing i have flex [TS]

  like Netflix and I put the ESPN app on [TS]

  there and I think that might be it [TS]

  and so I'm not really seeing what's [TS]

  what's so great about the app store yet [TS]

  with the exception of plex of course and [TS]

  but that there's been no other killer [TS]

  app that have thought to myself man I [TS]

  really really really want to download [TS]

  whatever [TS]

  well to be fair be like that the kind of [TS]

  device that is wherever this is like [TS]

  this TV content box [TS]

  I mean how many apps do most people [TS]

  really use in that kind of context I [TS]

  mean to me like it is useful to have a [TS]

  large selection of apps but to any one [TS]

  person anyone user of this device it [TS]

  might only ever use 24 apps and that [TS]

  might be perfectly fine enough for them [TS]

  you know just like for you it might be [TS]

  flex and netflix yeah for me it might be [TS]

  like you know you know a game and [TS]

  netflix and maybe I probably won't use [TS]

  flex I might you know I i will use the [TS]

  itunes store stuff and then maybe down [TS]

  the road i might get HBO now go [TS]

  whichever one that doesn't use cable [TS]

  that you know one of those like us like [TS]

  it's the kind of thing and and if [TS]

  everything works well which is still [TS]

  debatable but everything works well then [TS]

  I think that's enough [TS]

  you know you don't need it is it isn't a [TS]

  phone you know you don't need to be [TS]

  doing tons of different apps all the [TS]

  time on your TV [TS]

  I think most people are going to pick [TS]

  like three or four at most you know so [TS]

  wouldn't it be a good enough device and [TS]

  a valuable purchase even if you never [TS]

  use any other apps for it and then we [TS]

  use now I think you're absolutely right [TS]

  and you know as you were talking about [TS]

  seeing myself why am I don't not bummed [TS]

  out but I can't think of a better way to [TS]

  describe it but i might be a little [TS]

  disappointed that i don't have 305 apps [TS]

  on this thing that I was really excited [TS]

  about in you know what I think a part of [TS]

  it is is that it looks so paltry in [TS]

  silly compared to the prior gen apple TV [TS]

  which had like what is it 40 or 50 apps [TS]

  and new ones just spawning like rabbits [TS]

  constantly but to be fair you're exactly [TS]

  right that I really never used any of [TS]

  those and so in the end of the day it [TS]

  was really clutter but because it feels [TS]

  like i have fewer things now it's all it [TS]

  feels worse even though in reality it's [TS]

  actually probably a lot better you [TS]

  should put some some other lesser [TS]

  staples on there like I think you should [TS]

  probably put the YouTube app on there [TS]

  and maybe those amazon have like free [TS]

  video maybe amazon video one if they [TS]

  have something for free or if you have [TS]

  amazon product no I don't think there is [TS]

  any of the video at the thought that's [TS]

  kind of the whole point of the whole [TS]

  thing now I'd i use the series thing [TS]

  reason [TS]

  where ID I I think you have to say show [TS]

  me i don't know it sounds so does a show [TS]

  me but I said show me and then spoke a [TS]

  movie title and I was impressed by two [TS]

  things one that actually transcribed [TS]

  what i was saying as I spoke it all [TS]

  three things to that it properly title [TS]

  case the title of the movie haha as I [TS]

  spoke it [TS]

  wait which proper title casing that just [TS]

  you know the regular one so it didn't [TS]

  capitalize prepositions and articles in [TS]

  the middle the title and stuff like that [TS]

  it doesn't matter was it was my son want [TS]

  to see the maze runner so all those [TS]

  words are capped right but as I said [TS]

  show me the major Runner and the as [TS]

  capital mazes capital and are and you [TS]

  know in real time as it has it spat it [TS]

  out so that was impressive and three it [TS]

  gave me a bunch of options for where to [TS]

  watch it one of which was because i was [TS]

  if I had done it then put it this way if [TS]

  I had done it with the old apple TV I [TS]

  would've been like we don't have the [TS]

  maze runner so let me just look to see [TS]

  if it's available on iTunes and either [TS]

  buy it or rented based on how likely i [TS]

  think we as a household are to want to [TS]

  watch this again but instead I said show [TS]

  me the Maze Runner and put it down there [TS]

  is an option and i clicked on it and it [TS]

  was available on HBO GO [TS]

  so I just played it for free and so [TS]

  that's that's a pretty flawless victory [TS]

  for the new Apple TV over the old one [TS]

  because it took less time is expected to [TS]

  the remote and spoken to it it did the [TS]

  right thing and let me watch for free [TS]

  you know because I already pay for HBO [TS]

  it didn't have to go rent it from itunes [TS]

  so thumbs up there is something i [TS]

  haven't tried but I'd really like to and [TS]

  I just didn't think about until he said [TS]

  that is yo can I get into my plex [TS]

  library through Siri from like the home [TS]

  screen and I believe there's api's that [TS]

  allow that to happen but I don't have [TS]

  the faintest idea whether or not plex [TS]

  supports it had some flex a couple [TS]

  run-ins with flex I was trying to watch [TS]

  i forgot i was wanted trying to watch [TS]

  something that I had available in many [TS]

  different ways and my my TV due to [TS]

  weirdness of hdmi and misguided attempt [TS]

  to copy protection if I play through the [TS]

  DLNA client on my television very often [TS]

  it only wants to help put like stereo [TS]

  down to my receiver it won't even though [TS]

  it will be fed 5.1 [TS]

  from my DLNA server in the basement that [TS]

  5.1 goes into my television but it never [TS]

  gets to leave what comes out the back of [TS]

  it instead is like even though it's on [TS]

  the Audio Return Channel anyway I fought [TS]

  with it for a while and like bottom line [TS]

  is if it goes if I have my the [TS]

  television itself the smart TV feature [TS]

  do it sometimes I don't get the high [TS]

  quality audio so I'm like well this [TS]

  video has high-quality 5.1 audio I want [TS]

  to get that directly but i didn't wanna [TS]

  turn on the PlayStation which also work [TS]

  because it's noisy so I said it's time [TS]

  for the appletv to do it yet and then I [TS]

  did like a search like is there a simple [TS]

  DLNA client for apple TV and are a bunch [TS]

  of the rest of you don't let me try plex [TS]

  because i have the public server setup [TS]

  on technology so I did and the thing was [TS]

  there and for whatever reason it just [TS]

  wouldn't play off of the synology I [TS]

  don't know if this analogy couldn't [TS]

  transcoded because it was too high [TS]

  bitrate there didn't understand the [TS]

  codec or something but then i remembered [TS]

  like a flexible over the place so I just [TS]

  started plex on my wife's new imac [TS]

  pointed at the same you know I i had [TS]

  already had set up there to mount this [TS]

  analogy there and my wife's imac no [TS]

  problem transcoding it and I played it [TS]

  from there so flex kind of came through [TS]

  for me they're like halfway i mean it [TS]

  was it was flexible enough that if it [TS]

  didn't work off of mine ass I could just [TS]

  run it on the much more powerful neck [TS]

  and that did work so kind of thumb [TS]

  sideways there but anyway let me let me [TS]

  let me play the video i wanted to play [TS]

  in the quality i wanted with 5.1 without [TS]

  having to irfan so it's good yeah it's [TS]

  funny because I moved the now old and [TS]

  busted apple TV from the family room to [TS]

  the bedroom and I had on like mtv [TS]

  unplugged or something like that this [TS]

  morning if you specifically what it was [TS]

  but I was hoping the alice in chains of [TS]

  the best 1i no don't think i have that [TS]

  one [TS]

  I'm sure whatever what it was you would [TS]

  judge me for and and if we don't need to [TS]

  go into that what will say that for the [TS]

  after-show many of them are very good [TS]

  including the seal one that you gave me [TS]

  that that I don't think it's available [TS]

  legally anywhere i believe that's right [TS]

  and and that was one of them that we [TS]

  watched it was an mtv unplugged morning [TS]

  maybe we can argue about that the [TS]

  after-show since that appears to be what [TS]

  we do these years I mean everyone [TS]

  everyone loved the Nirvana and there are [TS]

  no one is very good when I think the [TS]

  alice in chains one is better [TS]

  yeah i feel like i've heard it at some [TS]

  point but not anytime recently so I [TS]

  should take a note too [TS]

  to listen to that again but anyway so i [TS]

  was trying to the point of the matter is [TS]

  I was trying to play plex from onto the [TS]

  old apple TV which was wired via [TS]

  ethernet now is Wi-Fi and is the way the [TS]

  crow flies so to speak through the house [TS]

  and home probably like 15 to 20 feet [TS]

  away from my my airport extreme now [TS]

  granted that's through like two or three [TS]

  walls and all my god the new Apple TV I [TS]

  don't know if it's because of ethernet I [TS]

  don't know if it's because i'm not doing [TS]

  airplay hop [TS]

  I'm sure it's a combination of both but [TS]

  it was so much nicer watching this stuff [TS]

  on the new Apple TV then it was airplane [TS]

  from the flex app on the old apple TV [TS]

  anyway but so yeah I'd say at least one [TS]

  thumb probably two thumbs up for the new [TS]

  Apple TV the planet the flex experience [TS]

  just is everything to me and it's in [TS]

  this wonderful and there's a couple of [TS]

  minor issues i have here and there but [TS]

  but overall really really like it do you [TS]

  like the I think the Plex you I on able [TS]

  to explain to me like I know I'm place [TS]

  you can pick like a background for the [TS]

  things that they have all these you know [TS]

  background images that people have made [TS]

  and I remember the the mac plex client [TS]

  had all these fancy backgrounds in the [TS]

  UI like all different the appletv one is [TS]

  kind of boring especially if you buy [TS]

  folder i use flex by the way to watch [TS]

  pharmacy specialized editions my parents [TS]

  wanted to see the the first three star [TS]

  wars movies before going to see the [TS]

  seventh not not the first episode 12 and [TS]

  three guys got a new album Bayern and [TS]

  Jedi and i want to show them harming it [TS]

  was the same situation i could play it [TS]

  off my playstation but then you have to [TS]

  hear the PlayStation fan so and I wanted [TS]

  to get all you know that the [TS]

  multi-channel sound and everything and [TS]

  so plex to the rescue again it could it [TS]

  could play them and they played them [TS]

  correctly and I don't have to hear fan [TS]

  but when you view by folder went into my [TS]

  little star wars folder and navigate to [TS]

  it was kind of boring looking just like [TS]

  a list of words and you know cover art [TS]

  off to the left I don't know I I I just [TS]

  expected flex to be fancier like not [TS]

  that I demanded to be fancy but it [TS]

  seemed it seem to be not up to the [TS]

  standards of the [TS]

  other plex client so i can remember same [TS]

  thing with the playstation 4 client by [TS]

  the way but that's the least of my [TS]

  concerns if it just gets the video and [TS]

  place it I'm happy so flex is rising in [TS]

  a steam in this household let me know i [TS]

  agree with you i think that the UI is [TS]

  good i would not say it's great and I [TS]

  think it could definitely use some shop [TS]

  massaging here and there however it is [TS]

  so much a better experience than having [TS]

  to have some like iOS device sitting [TS]

  around ere playing everything that it [TS]

  even with the world's ugliest you I it [TS]

  could still in many ways do no wrong in [TS]

  my book because oh my goodness it's so [TS]

  nice having that natively on the appletv [TS]

  now you can share your flex library with [TS]

  me I would be happy to [TS]

  I should do hmm ok or both of you i [TS]

  don't think i can share with you guys my [TS]

  my my mass is not exposed to the [TS]

  internet at all so i don't think i can [TS]

  share with you but it doesn't matter i [TS]

  just want to get your stuff are you [TS]

  running plex on your Synology yeah [TS]

  really [TS]

  you can do that well yeah you can but i [TS]

  found it was whenever I tried to [TS]

  transcode anything live it was a [TS]

  disaster that's what I'm saying I [TS]

  couldn't I couldn't watch the one of the [TS]

  things i wanted to watch just didn't [TS]

  play at all and had to use the imac but [TS]

  harmony specializations played fine [TS]

  mm you know I think what it might be as [TS]

  if you have it format it formatted as [TS]

  like I'm gonna get this wrong video [TS]

  nerds I apologize but if you have it in [TS]

  some apple friendly format let me just [TS]

  pee vee lake [TS]

  no i don't i do not pre transcode [TS]

  anything like so whatever i downloaded [TS]

  the Army says that's what they are [TS]

  refused to like throw them into [TS]

  handbrake and reconvert them because [TS]

  then you're getting you're going double [TS]

  lossless right so it won't play exactly [TS]

  as it was downloaded then I find [TS]

  something else to play it completely [TS]

  agree i I've lamented in the past that [TS]

  this isn't the technology that we all [TS]

  have which is an 18-13 plus is does not [TS]

  have a quick enough processor to do [TS]

  transcoding and a lot of people have [TS]

  complained about this and pastel just [TS]

  transcode everything and make it all in [TS]

  you know whatever magical Apple format I [TS]

  i need and i completely agree John [TS]

  that's just a bunch of work whether or [TS]

  not you double [TS]

  do you have the double aussie conversion [TS]

  it's just so much work that I just don't [TS]

  want to have to do and and I found [TS]

  myself how she does [TS]

  transcode a whole bunch of stuff on the [TS]

  fly at a reasonable speed for me like he [TS]

  was it you don't need to do is be able [TS]

  to keep up with real-time and [TS]

  can a lot of cases other cases it just [TS]

  doesn't matter that's that's why I threw [TS]

  the imac at it which you know didn't [TS]

  break a sweat can transcode anything on [TS]

  the fly because it's super fast and make [TS]

  some mac pro feel bad and that's why I [TS]

  have my old platter driven macbook pro [TS]

  sitting on constantly I probably never [TS]

  use this thing if it wasn't for the fact [TS]

  that it is my plex server setup so why [TS]

  will i will i'll invite you guys after [TS]

  the fact to to share them to see my [TS]

  specs stuff and so you can stream all of [TS]

  the all the things that I have legally [TS]

  totally when you can only stream you [TS]

  can't download it [TS]

  I'd like to talk about another gift I [TS]

  got but do you want to talk about what [TS]

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  alright so the other thing that I [TS]

  received this Christmas which I know [TS]

  everyone is so excited about the [TS]

  accidental look at me [TS]

  humble bragging podcast is aaron cut me [TS]

  a new retina ipad mini she got me an [TS]

  ipad mini 4 with with retina and [TS]

  cellular and i am really into this [TS]

  device I've always loved my ipad mini's [TS]

  my fight this is my fourth ipad i had [TS]

  the original I had the ipad 3 which was [TS]

  the first with retina which is what you [TS]

  are still rocking John is that right [TS]

  yeah [TS]

  still it's it's getting long in the [TS]

  tooth man i don't know i keep it up [TS]

  getting heavy in the tooth had to then I [TS]

  had the original original retina mini [TS]

  and now the ipad mini 4 and the last two [TS]

  both knees have been cellular in the [TS]

  last couple of months I've given up on [TS]

  my AT&T unlimited plan and so now I can [TS]

  actually tether i'm not entirely sure [TS]

  going cellular was the most right choice [TS]

  but so far i've liked it and the Apple [TS]

  sim is actually pretty cool i put a post [TS]

  on my site about some random things that [TS]

  I've discovered with regard to the apple [TS]

  Sam and so you can go check that out if [TS]

  that's interesting to you the short [TS]

  version is it's a single sim card that [TS]

  you can use with multiple carriers which [TS]

  is really kind of fascinating i don't [TS]

  have too much to say about the device [TS]

  other than why didn't somebody tell me [TS]

  that this ipad multitasking stuff was [TS]

  really cool like I wish [TS]

  federico ethics said something or [TS]

  something like that because this is kind [TS]

  of exciting i love that is this episode [TS]

  is like Casey discovers after Christmas [TS]

  what everyone else an apple community [TS]

  discovered in the fall [TS]

  it's been talking about for months well [TS]

  welcome to october and and he's a star [TS]

  wars 2 [TS]

  yeah i saw Star Wars they just yesterday [TS]

  actually as we record so anyway so i [TS]

  won't [TS]

  we'll go on about this like i like i did [TS]

  about the apple TV but suffice to say it [TS]

  genuinely I'm not trying to be funny [TS]

  it genuinely changes how you use the [TS]

  device when you can genuinely do more [TS]

  than one thing at once on the old mini I [TS]

  could do I believe it slide over where [TS]

  you can just slide something in and [TS]

  interact with it then you have to make [TS]

  it go away because they wouldn't let you [TS]

  do a full-on to pain multitasking I [TS]

  could do picture-in-picture which by the [TS]

  way quick aside flex on the ipad [TS]

  actually does support picture-in-picture [TS]

  even though it doesn't have the same UI [TS]

  that everything else on the planet does [TS]

  as it turns out if you just hit the home [TS]

  button while you're playing something it [TS]

  will automatically kick on [TS]

  picture-picture which is really awesome [TS]

  so anyway so I really really have liked [TS]

  having multitasking on it and I can't [TS]

  think of any like specific thing that [TS]

  I've done that has been amazing but just [TS]

  the ability to be able to say hang out [TS]

  and slack while catching up on Twitter [TS]

  or what-have-you has been so awesome and [TS]

  genuinely changes i know that was like [TS]

  18 times but it really does it changes [TS]

  the way i think about my iPad and it [TS]

  makes me feel like even my mini is so [TS]

  much more capable this new many is so [TS]

  much more capable than the mini that [TS]

  came before it for me and and i'm really [TS]

  excited to be able to dig into using [TS]

  this little more not for work stuff or [TS]

  anything like that but just to be more [TS]

  and more productive or efficient maybe [TS]

  is the word I'm looking for [TS]

  well even just goofing off and so I'm [TS]

  really stoked with it really pleased [TS]

  with it and so far i'm excited that i am [TS]

  that i got a cellular one and I now [TS]

  understand Federico's rage over people [TS]

  over apps that don't support the the two [TS]

  pain multitasking because it is really [TS]

  annoying marker you're the one who [TS]

  tweeted retweeted something showing some [TS]

  person saying you know guys it doesn't [TS]

  take too many changes to you I window to [TS]

  make it into it like they had they had [TS]

  like windows [TS]

  yes safety Esther did that looks like a [TS]

  little like mock up like a working [TS]

  mock-up demo of like multiple you I [TS]

  windows [TS]

  on screen at once with draggable edges [TS]

  and trackable title passed and this is [TS]

  on the ipad and what they're basically [TS]

  had to look like is OS 10 windows but [TS]

  with really big finger-sized widgets for [TS]

  the little stop light winds right and it [TS]

  looked look silly and I'm going to say [TS]

  this is probably not the way you should [TS]

  go but people are mad with power now [TS]

  basically like a thick like split view [TS]

  it is [TS]

  wait a second cpu is capable of doing [TS]

  more than things at once i need windows [TS]

  and I need to arrange the Majesty not [TS]

  recreating all they're recreating my [TS]

  desktop on their iPads which is probably [TS]

  not what they want they're not ready for [TS]

  that but it's you know I guess someone [TS]

  could do that maybe apple rejected [TS]

  because they're kinda like that all this [TS]

  tries to make a new you know window [TS]

  bring environment i'm sure apple and [TS]

  find some way to reject it because like [TS]

  imagine a nap [TS]

  yeah well there's been a rule forever [TS]

  against apps to try to create their own [TS]

  like desktop type environments inside [TS]

  themselves to have any kind of like [TS]

  multiple widgets inside of one central [TS]

  at there again it's a very vague rule [TS]

  but that's been there since the very [TS]

  beginning it was like the one that got [TS]

  that a sport rejected but then not [TS]

  because they're ridiculous to reject [TS]

  satisfied but like but definitely making [TS]

  actual windows because I don't even know [TS]

  how you would what you what would you [TS]

  put in those windows like well I think [TS]

  maybe if someone did like a sketching [TS]

  application for the ipad pro where it [TS]

  had a bunch of pallets that were like [TS]

  literally just pallets like photoshop [TS]

  pallets some kind of reared dockable [TS]

  palace with big finger size things in [TS]

  the top of them what Apple reject that [TS]

  because it gives too much flexibility [TS]

  about where you put the pallets I don't [TS]

  like it seems like there is there's [TS]

  something there where people somebody is [TS]

  daring enough because the ability to [TS]

  arrange the palace the way you wanted [TS]

  photoshop or any other design [TS]

  application that's a feature like people [TS]

  have different tools that they want to [TS]

  use it certain times and I mean and it's [TS]

  not that the mac versions these [TS]

  applications are infinitely flexible [TS]

  you're still kind of stuck with this set [TS]

  of power that you can arrange them make [TS]

  them skinny or white or wherever but [TS]

  talking designer watch them work people [TS]

  have preferences about what goes where [TS]

  on the screen where is the layers [TS]

  palette where is the history pal what's [TS]

  hidden was shown by default is it [TS]

  skinnier wide what stopped here and [TS]

  there like is it the full screen thing [TS]

  is the small window like these are just [TS]

  options with him you know photoshop if [TS]

  there was an ipad pro sketching [TS]

  application that gave similar [TS]

  flexibility people use that flexibility [TS]

  because maybe they wanted [TS]

  what is the the thing that they always [TS]

  go to go to the color well frequently to [TS]

  change brush size is frequently they [TS]

  don't have like a keyboard at the square [TS]

  brackets to make the brush size go up [TS]

  and down so being able to sort of a [TS]

  range their workspace within an [TS]

  application using things that I guess [TS]

  you kind of not call them windows to [TS]

  avoid getting rejected but i really hope [TS]

  Apple wouldn't reject an app like that [TS]

  because I think that's a great idea for [TS]

  and for all I know is I'm not designed [TS]

  for all I know their ipad perhaps that [TS]

  already do this so if that's the case [TS]

  then nevermind has already been done but [TS]

  I if not that's definitely a direction [TS]

  that I think it's safe [TS]

  it should be safe to go in that [TS]

  direction with design applications for [TS]

  example on the ipad pro in seeing this [TS]

  multitasking and taken to bring it back [TS]

  around just makes me understand that [TS]

  much more [TS]

  why someone would really like an iPad [TS]

  pro despite the fact that i do think it [TS]

  is just comically large I can see how it [TS]

  would be really really useful to have [TS]

  all that extra screen real estate so [TS]

  it's interesting but I i really really [TS]

  like the new the new retina ipad mini I [TS]

  two thumbs up for that two thumbs up for [TS]

  the ipad multitasking really really been [TS]

  doing it on the ipad pro being comically [TS]

  large I still as I dwell on this [TS]

  I think the problem is that is not big [TS]

  enough not problem that is a problem [TS]

  with a precursor but like the reason it [TS]

  seems so large is because we are [TS]

  comparing it to like the end of the [TS]

  quarter full-size iPad if it was really [TS]

  comically large like as in 21-inch no [TS]

  one would be comparing it to like no one [TS]

  would think i'm gonna put this in my [TS]

  backpack [TS]

  it would be for designers to work with [TS]

  at their desks likewise it even an ipad [TS]

  that point why aren't you just buys into [TS]

  just a Mac why you know well because you [TS]

  draw on the screen with a pen and you [TS]

  don't do that with a mac and it's not [TS]

  indirect like a cintiq where you at the [TS]

  mac over here you know like I i still [TS]

  feel like that's the direction we're [TS]

  going in all be this at this point we're [TS]

  going there at a snail's pace because it [TS]

  took this long to get us a stylist and [TS]

  slightly larger iPad but i think that [TS]

  will solve the problem of will look at [TS]

  the size of this giant iPad when it you [TS]

  stop making that comparison to a certain [TS]

  point when it becomes a thing that sits [TS]

  on your desk [TS]

  I don't mean that you have to plug it in [TS]

  although you could plug it in but I mean [TS]

  I think there have been people who made [TS]

  these very large tablet size things like [TS]

  21 inches or what [TS]

  over and they just haven't caught on i [TS]

  just don't think the software is [TS]

  therefore yet but uh the same way that I [TS]

  feel like the ipad pro features will go [TS]

  down scale some point you can make that [TS]

  pepper even bigger like why not if if it [TS]

  becomes a tool for designers who wants [TS]

  to design things on something as puny as [TS]

  an ipad pro like why wouldn't you don't [TS]

  want something bigger I think you would [TS]

  naturally eventually [TS]

  well why did they stop making the [TS]

  17-inch macbook pro I i think that is [TS]

  kind of like because the laptops that [TS]

  role is to be portable right and i don't [TS]

  think the tablet the ipad scrolls [TS]

  necessarily to be portable for [TS]

  especially for design things because you [TS]

  just want to draw on the screen right I [TS]

  thinks antiques are bigger than that [TS]

  sighs well I i think the reason they [TS]

  killed a 17-inch macbook pro is probably [TS]

  because things weren't selling enough of [TS]

  them to to make it worth continuing to [TS]

  sell it so a larger iPad than the pro [TS]

  might have that same problem they might [TS]

  you know there is a maximum size above [TS]

  which it is just too specialized and not [TS]

  enough people will buy it to make it [TS]

  worth Apple making it and for for [TS]

  macbooks that appears to be 15 inches so [TS]

  what is it for ipads it might be the the [TS]

  ipad pro sighs it might be bigger who [TS]

  knows i don't buy into that because i [TS]

  think the generation is throwing my [TS]

  surround the room want something they're [TS]

  going to touch like that's what I keep [TS]

  saying the ipad is the future of [TS]

  computing is not going to be too [TS]

  specialized what's going to be too [TS]

  specialized as the pieces that you can't [TS]

  touch so Apple is eventually for those [TS]

  kids who are throwing those mice around [TS]

  the computer lab or in kindergarten now [TS]

  when they are 30 years old I think [TS]

  they're gonna want a really big [TS]

  touchscreen somewhere in their house to [TS]

  do this type of stuff I can't do on [TS]

  their phones like you're sitting down [TS]

  like in the same way that we have an [TS]

  imac or our laptops or maybe maybe I'll [TS]

  just stick with us i don't like because [TS]

  i had a 17 inch laptop it's an old form [TS]

  factor and it's meant to be portable and [TS]

  a non-portable laptop is called desktop [TS]

  when we already have that like we have a [TS]

  massive 5k I'm act like I don't I 212 [TS]

  the thing to think about it what is the [TS]

  upper size limit on desktop computer [TS]

  screens 27 inches that like we went up [TS]

  to 30 is that like the limit their did a [TS]

  certain point it becomes you can't find [TS]

  like a desk space big enough it starts [TS]

  blocking your view out of your home like [TS]

  it's just it's just it's just too darn [TS]

  big [TS]

  I have a friend who uses a television [TS]

  like people have a vision problems of [TS]

  not that it's low resolution but it's [TS]

  just massive right I guess you know [TS]

  maybe VR headsets coming and make all [TS]

  this is moot point but anyway thinking [TS]

  about the sizes screens can be in the [TS]

  future I think it's the lots of [TS]

  interesting possibilities and I think a [TS]

  lot of our view today is colored by what [TS]

  we're comparing it to or where we [TS]

  slotted yeah you know that the soldiers [TS]

  getting back to kc think of this [TS]

  comically large and like in some [TS]

  respects it is it's it's like the [TS]

  world's biggest iphone or it's a [TS]

  comically large ipad with other respects [TS]

  it's a comically small laptop screen [TS]

  detach from a keyboard so comically [TS]

  small I package i'm actually in touch [TS]

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  alright so John you had come up with a [TS]

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  of today's episode which like to [TS]

  introduce that kind of kick us off the [TS]

  last episode 2015 that means they have a [TS]

  sort of a year and thing you could do a [TS]

  year in review you could do predictions [TS]

  for next year but i wanted to do with [TS]

  something kind of in between which is [TS]

  2016 wish list with a set of rules of [TS]

  course there are rules [TS]

  so the first rule is that these are not [TS]

  predictions so that gets us entirely out [TS]

  of the game of trying to predict what is [TS]

  actually going to happen in 2016 because [TS]

  that's fun to do sometimes it's easy to [TS]

  tell whether you're right for the most [TS]

  part but i don't know like I'm I'm less [TS]

  interested in predicting what will [TS]

  happen then in talking about what i [TS]

  would like to happen and for stuff that [TS]

  you would like to happen you can't pick [TS]

  like blue sky stuff where it's like if I [TS]

  you know if I could have a pony and the [TS]

  unicorn this is what i would want so the [TS]

  rules are not predictions and pick [TS]

  things that are plausible and feasible [TS]

  and that you want to see in 2016 and I [TS]

  guess we'll have to just judge whether [TS]

  you put the thing you're asking for is a [TS]

  fantasy that's never gonna happen and [TS]

  has to be stricken from the list but [TS]

  those are the ground rules i hope you [TS]

  guys did some semblance of homework I [TS]

  have a text file in front of me [TS]

  that sounds serious as hell doesn't have [TS]

  more than one thing in it it has 36 [TS]

  lines with text on the blah blah input [TS]

  including whitespace 36 lines all right [TS]

  and this is not even like top for that [TS]

  don't need to be ordered this is an [TS]

  unordered list UL so you might actually [TS]

  do okay if this marker [TS]

  well it was very hard for me to do this [TS]

  in a way that wasn't just predictions [TS]

  yeah you have like not like that keeping [TS]

  it too plausible things was it was [TS]

  fairly easy but making it not just a [TS]

  list of what i think will happen or what [TS]

  i think is very likely to happen that [TS]

  that is harder and i have i've [TS]

  definitely different hard time with that [TS]

  so my list is a little bit predictive [TS]

  and did well to get away from [TS]

  predictions reason to predictions is [TS]

  because that allows a cynicism and [TS]

  dogs you could say these dummies are [TS]

  going to do this even though they [TS]

  shouldn't and this is more just like [TS]

  what do you want to happen [TS]

  like what yeah if you could if you could [TS]

  make certain things happen and you know [TS]

  not magical things [TS]

  what do you want to see in 2016 and it [TS]

  can be anything tech I guess I mean [TS]

  we're probably all thinking of apple [TS]

  stuff and realize that we can be [TS]

  anything tech related and honestly I [TS]

  mean my list is actually pretty [TS]

  optimistic or like it isn't a [TS]

  pessimistic or cynical list because you [TS]

  know look at my list is very very Apple [TS]

  focused I just wasn't thinking of other [TS]

  stuff because frankly the rest of the [TS]

  country is kind of boring most of the [TS]

  time to be honest but you know for me [TS]

  the the Apple side of it i am i [TS]

  optimistic simply because i think apple [TS]

  in in 2015 2014 really did a lot of one [TS]

  point I was like a lot of things are [TS]

  either brand-new product lines or new [TS]

  product sublines like the ipad pro or [TS]

  you know new services like Apple music [TS]

  and and photo cloud stuff like there [TS]

  there's a lot of restarts and one point [TS]

  was recently began in this past year and [TS]

  some i'm really hoping that 2016 brings [TS]

  a lot of 1.1 2.1 is usually just like a [TS]

  lot of a lot of revision a lot of maybe [TS]

  maturing of these lines and of these [TS]

  various new products you know just kind [TS]

  of a slowdown in brand new cutting-edge [TS]

  launches because apples cutting-edge [TS]

  launches have been all over the map in [TS]

  terms of quality and and usefulness and [TS]

  everything and so to have some time [TS]

  where that can be kind of calm down and [TS]

  matured and stabilized and developed [TS]

  further rather than just more more one [TS]

  point of everything would be very [TS]

  welcome and I think that's why i think [TS]

  that will happen and I hope that's what [TS]

  will happen and that so that is my main [TS]

  theme of my wishes is just stop with the [TS]

  one point was for a little while I just [TS]

  like take take all these one point is [TS]

  forward to their to their next steps in [TS]

  their in their growth there was a really [TS]

  good why didn't finish it only had time [TS]

  to read about the first half but I think [TS]

  its new I patel wrote something on the [TS]

  verge yesterday i believe it was it's [TS]

  entitled Apple 2015 apples year in beta [TS]

  and it very much echoes what you just [TS]

  said that basically there's been a lot [TS]

  of half cooked stuff that's been [TS]

  released in this year and that's really [TS]

  kind of unfortunate and I didn't get to [TS]

  the portion which actually sounds [TS]

  perhaps even more interesting to me [TS]

  which is new platform ideas in search of [TS]

  sticky user behavior so for example 3d [TS]

  touch which i find i'm using more in [TS]

  more overtime but i did not have the [TS]

  instinct like oh my god i'm using this [TS]

  always experience that I was kind of [TS]

  expecting to actually sold like this in [TS]

  the show notes but it was it was a [TS]

  little on the negative side but i think [TS]

  it was pretty fair [TS]

  all told ya I mean you know that this at [TS]

  this point and apples evolution they are [TS]

  really throwing a lot more spaghetti at [TS]

  the wall to see what sticks and and [TS]

  whether that used to happen more in [TS]

  private is now more public or whether it [TS]

  you know as I said in a recent sure like [TS]

  I think they're just been a lot of [TS]

  low-hanging fruit that has all been [TS]

  picked and now like in order to find the [TS]

  next the next big thing or the next the [TS]

  next success in the business [TS]

  it's harder and and the successes are [TS]

  getting smaller relatively speaking and [TS]

  you know it all the low-hanging fruit is [TS]

  already been picked on a lot of industry [TS]

  so it is it's just getting harder to [TS]

  find what's next and define success and [TS]

  so we are seeing things that come out [TS]

  that are kinda like really like or or [TS]

  things that you're not really sure will [TS]

  work and many of them don't many of them [TS]

  do and it's happening more in public now [TS]

  with Apple than it used to i think and [TS]

  maybe worth remembering wrong I don't [TS]

  know but it does seem like we are seeing [TS]

  a lot more things come out of Apple that [TS]

  are not clear winds from day one [TS]

  obviously you can look back in the past [TS]

  and you can you can say well it's never [TS]

  perfect and that's true but i think if [TS]

  you look at like the iphone 1 point 0 or [TS]

  even the early ipods and and you know [TS]

  many of their earlier like 1.8 kind of [TS]

  releases vs today's one point over [TS]

  Lisa's I i think the number of asterisks [TS]

  and and downsides in the past was [TS]

  probably lower then than it is today and [TS]

  and in part that's because they are [TS]

  bigger company i do think it has to do [TS]

  in part with [TS]

  he's not being there anymore and I think [TS]

  in part just because the products in our [TS]

  more complicated and as you said like [TS]

  it's more challenging now to find new [TS]

  territory that will be a success yet [TS]

  from this piece that i was talking about [TS]

  this newly patel and that's really the [TS]

  issue we're not used to apple being just [TS]

  fine we used to apple being wildly [TS]

  better than the competition or sometimes [TS]

  much worse but always ahead of the curve [TS]

  on some significant taxes but we got in [TS]

  2015 was an apple that released more [TS]

  products never all of which felt [TS]

  incomplete in extremely meaningful ways [TS]

  ways that meant that their products were [TS]

  just fine and often just the same as [TS]

  everyone else's yeah i don't know if i [TS]

  buy that the premise is again a long [TS]

  memory but one one thing when i think of [TS]

  the problem like the underlying thing I [TS]

  keep coming back to my hobby horse which [TS]

  is I don't know that like it in a world [TS]

  where products increasingly have a [TS]

  back-end service component that works [TS]

  against apple because i don't know if [TS]

  they can make those things like all [TS]

  their one point know their buggy [TS]

  whatever like I just need one more year [TS]

  to work out the kinks when it was just [TS]

  software and hardware that ship to [TS]

  customers that was true they could work [TS]

  out the kinks that would make the [TS]

  hardware better but when its server [TS]

  component things like I don't see a lot [TS]

  of like there's some progress there but [TS]

  it's really slow and I'd that's why [TS]

  don't have the confidence like Oh given [TS]

  given a year or two like contact syncing [TS]

  will be a solved problem you know how [TS]

  long Apple from working on contacting I [TS]

  don't you people don't have many [TS]

  contacts I don't have many contacts got [TS]

  like hundreds of a couple hundred [TS]

  contacts I just wanted to be the same [TS]

  everywhere and to be in sync and that [TS]

  this should be a solved problem but it [TS]

  isn't and it like is it is it because [TS]

  Apple hasn't had time to work on contact [TS]

  syncing know like it's just I I feel [TS]

  like there is a fundamental in [TS]

  capability of the organization to get [TS]

  past some threshold of quality and as [TS]

  more and more things they make have that [TS]

  component I worry that there's like a [TS]

  ceiling on how good those things are [TS]

  going to be how good can Apple music be [TS]

  if there's necessarily a server [TS]

  component how good can Apple TV if this [TS]

  is you know I don't know maybe maybe [TS]

  that's my imagination but certainly it's [TS]

  true that more and more product [TS]

  even if you think of the watch where the [TS]

  server is kind of the phone more and [TS]

  more products rely on something that is [TS]

  not inside the physical device to to do [TS]

  like their main job not as a frail or [TS]

  something right [TS]

  so I I don't know if like no I i found [TS]

  is better then got mad cuz you know and [TS]

  mobileme and all that other stuff and [TS]

  things have improved and they are going [TS]

  in the right direction but boy it feels [TS]

  like slow going and as that slowly [TS]

  evolves [TS]

  I like the number of new products the [TS]

  end and new platforms for that matter [TS]

  that they introduced that rely on server [TS]

  infrastructure things to be reliable and [TS]

  fast and always available is outpacing [TS]

  the quality of their implementation of [TS]

  those things so don't be too pessimistic [TS]

  I think I feel like it is a positive [TS]

  trend but they are apple in this passage [TS]

  / characterize it would be a year in [TS]

  which they a year or two in which they [TS]

  introduced a lot of new platforms and [TS]

  every new platform is kind of crappy in [TS]

  the beginning and so if you're into the [TS]

  whole bunch of new platforms you can [TS]

  have a whole year or two of a kind of [TS]

  crappy and you gotta give them time to [TS]

  get their feet underneath them and every [TS]

  platform to go through cycles like the [TS]

  mac has been shaky platform that saw the [TS]

  shaky than solid and shake it and solid [TS]

  and totally in crisis can really grab [TS]

  you for a whole bunch of years that's a [TS]

  daughter of the last 10 and then solid [TS]

  again and shaky again like these things [TS]

  go in cycles so i hope will be on an [TS]

  upswing with you know I don't know where [TS]

  are we and currently in an upswing with [TS]

  iOS or downswing i can't i can't really [TS]

  tell [TS]

  I think we're kind of plateauing with [TS]

  like you feel like iOS is is in a [TS]

  downswing in terms of the quality as [TS]

  compared to like the Golden Age of what [TS]

  is that iOS four maybe [TS]

  honestly I think iOS is great apple iOS [TS]

  on the iphone i think is fantastic [TS]

  iOS even on the ipad if it is is in many [TS]

  ways still pretty half-assed on the ipad [TS]

  like as as its own thing versus the [TS]

  iphone like versus just being a blown-up [TS]

  phone OS it is still it still needs a [TS]

  lot of work to really stand out zone the [TS]

  ipad but iOS in general and iOS on the [TS]

  iPhone itself i think the current [TS]

  version which is which is nine is [TS]

  is very solid I i'm very happy with nine [TS]

  so like performance see you I [TS]

  reliability api's I got all the seams [TS]

  like is this a new you know a good a [TS]

  good period for iOS we're like the UI [TS]

  and seven is kind of had most of the [TS]

  kinks worked out of it you feel [TS]

  yeah for the most part i mean like you [TS]

  know nothing's perfect but I think iOS [TS]

  is is pretty solid now both design-wise [TS]

  obviously there's a lot that that can [TS]

  use improvement with the ios7 design [TS]

  language and and some of it i just think [TS]

  will not be improved you know some of it [TS]

  would require changing that design [TS]

  language in ways that i don't think the [TS]

  the current software designers and power [TS]

  and Apple would ever allow so so i don't [TS]

  i don't think it's going to happen but [TS]

  overall I i think it's hiding iOS and [TS]

  especially i was on the iphone is solid [TS]

  there are some things that are weird as [TS]

  you mentioned anything that touches the [TS]

  cloud service can be weird i don't have [TS]

  any how many people out there with with [TS]

  iphones are very frequently asked to go [TS]

  every enter their iCloud password and [TS]

  settings here periodically asked like [TS]

  something yeah it comes it's like rain [TS]

  that's a dark sky app for what yeah what [TS]

  am I going to be asked for my class [TS]

  today you're gonna be a 17 times then [TS]

  you will not be asked again for three [TS]

  weeks [TS]

  why I don't know in my case I I very [TS]

  frequently will wake up to a phone that [TS]

  i need to re-enter my passcode on that [TS]

  hasn't rebooted but it just won't do it [TS]

  says dr. idea has been more than 48 [TS]

  hours and it's been like seven hours [TS]

  yeah and so you know it's like there's [TS]

  little stuff like that but in general [TS]

  using the phone like the the you at the [TS]

  OS like in general I would say both iOS [TS]

  and Mac os10 in their current versions [TS]

  of iOS 9 + l capitana I think both are [TS]

  pretty solid pretty good releases I i [TS]

  would say that the the apple TV needs a [TS]

  lot of work in the softening of the [TS]

  actual like the OS level like the the [TS]

  like or you know colonel and everything [TS]

  seemed fine [TS]

  the the UI on the appletv I think it's a [TS]

  lot of work it [TS]

  it is very much a UI designed to look [TS]

  good in screenshots and add [TS]

  and very much not a UI design to use [TS]

  well at all and the only thing you need [TS]

  to do to see this is by TV show on [TS]

  iTunes but it's so it's so bad but by TV [TS]

  season on itunes it's oh my god like it [TS]

  is so like so clearly not designed to [TS]

  buy anybody who ever actually has done [TS]

  this or needs to do this [TS]

  it was designed to look good on the [TS]

  screen shot once and it does seem like [TS]

  the print marketing group or whoever [TS]

  like took over the software UI design I [TS]

  think the appletv the new apple TV is is [TS]

  an example of how that can go pretty [TS]

  badly wrong against usability and and I [TS]

  hope they see that and and work on that [TS]

  because it is it is pretty rough right [TS]

  now in a few areas like that are pretty [TS]

  pretty common and to the point where [TS]

  like this [TS]

  this Christmas you know usually we give [TS]

  Apple TV's to our relatives here and [TS]

  there and it's Christmas we didn't [TS]

  belong to anybody because we don't want [TS]

  to support it [TS]

  it's yeah it's not it's not a good spot [TS]

  but it's got a kind of ironic a way that [TS]

  unlike the the print design mentality [TS]

  when really what they need is like what [TS]

  print design morphed into which is web [TS]

  design because when print war one friend [TS]

  former to web design they brought on the [TS]

  information architecture people to [TS]

  explain to them it's not so much but [TS]

  your screens look like it's what screens [TS]

  are and how they connect to each other [TS]

  and how people get a sense of place [TS]

  about it and how many screens you know [TS]

  like plain-old wireframe information [TS]

  architecture came into combined with the [TS]

  print people to say when you do web [TS]

  design is not a bunch of pages you have [TS]

  to actually design you know the the [TS]

  information flow and how it's connected [TS]

  now it's organized in a way that makes [TS]

  sense to people allows them to get where [TS]

  they want to go in a reasonable fashion [TS]

  and not feel lost and all that other [TS]

  stuff whereas yeah that I feel about the [TS]

  apple TV with a lot of the screens look [TS]

  really good but they're they're not [TS]

  connected to each other in a sensible [TS]

  way they seem to be too many of them [TS]

  and a lot of time I I feel like I'm [TS]

  going through too many screens or i'd [TS]

  i'd lose track of where I am so that's [TS]

  that's just plain old straight up a [TS]

  rally polar bear book business [TS]

  yeah so that is one thing on my wish [TS]

  list i really hope that the apple TV [TS]

  gets just some some UI tweaks to make it [TS]

  more usable because right now it is it [TS]

  is so poorly usable in in so many little [TS]

  areas like that and it seems like the [TS]

  fix is not difficult it just takes some [TS]

  rethinking of certain screen layouts and [TS]

  and so I i hope they do that so that is [TS]

  that one item that market forces that is [TS]

  that counts to one item is he saying [TS]

  that he thinks what what he wants to see [TS]

  is the apple TV getting some [TS]

  improvements some reasonable improvement [TS]

  because the same platform as a lot of [TS]

  obvious things they can do [TS]

  yeah and also I mean while i'm talking [TS]

  about the apple TV i would also say you [TS]

  know this is this has a brand new app [TS]

  store the implementation of the store [TS]

  itself is pretty bad and i would love to [TS]

  see that improved as well and and in the [TS]

  area of apps for the apple TV you know [TS]

  it's still very early there are there [TS]

  are very few apps available for it i [TS]

  would love to see you know whenever a [TS]

  new platform comes out you have people [TS]

  like an apple TV I know guide which has [TS]

  talked a lot about this on his podcast [TS]

  and blog like you kinda want to see like [TS]

  not just porting iphone apps to it but [TS]

  we want to look what-what new kinds of [TS]

  apps [TS]

  does this make possible that we haven't [TS]

  thought of yet and on the appletv we [TS]

  haven't seen that yet [TS]

  I i'm curious to know if during 2016 we [TS]

  will see some new kind of app take off [TS]

  on the appletv that that wouldn't work [TS]

  just as well or better on a phone like [TS]

  something that really take advantage of [TS]

  being a TV app you know so i would love [TS]

  to see that come from the third-party [TS]

  community and I hope it does I really do [TS]

  hope it does and i also hope that the [TS]

  appletv becomes a first-class game [TS]

  platform to release on for iOS games [TS]

  like I i I'm gonna have a pie-in-the-sky [TS]

  buzzer on that one [TS]

  no I know I know that like that like [TS]

  obviously like I'm not expecting get [TS]

  like console games to be launched to it [TS]

  but but I think games that are launching [TS]

  on iOS [TS]

  or that are that are having success in [TS]

  iOS i hope that they get ported quickly [TS]

  to the apple TV or launched [TS]

  simultaneously would be like probably [TS]

  the finest gotta go for now but it would [TS]

  be nice to see it get more gaming status [TS]

  because it is really fun to play good [TS]

  games on the appletv but I that I think [TS]

  you know if I would if this is the [TS]

  predictions episode I would honestly [TS]

  predict neither of those things happen [TS]

  either it being a first-party thing for [TS]

  games nor us seeing some really amazing [TS]

  ask for i would actually say neither of [TS]

  us are likely to happen but there but [TS]

  they're both plausible and I and they're [TS]

  both things that I wish would happen so [TS]

  how are we summarizing the 93 points you [TS]

  just made apple TV colon get better [TS]

  yeah there you go he had some definitely [TS]

  some plausible things that could be done [TS]

  to apple TV i think it drifted off into [TS]

  into unicorns in the beginning are you [TS]

  get a pass for now you don't have to [TS]

  worry about that goodness I'd okc your [TS]

  turn [TS]

  so I have a handful and what I want to [TS]

  use first ok i will use App Store [TS]

  improvements that app store colon get [TS]

  better and i think that it's easy for me [TS]

  to to make these sorts of wishes and [TS]

  hopes and dreams and and decisions from [TS]

  the position of someone who really this [TS]

  is this doesn't affect me but for those [TS]

  friends that I have like Marco like [TS]

  underscore and so many others that they [TS]

  try to make a living out of the app [TS]

  store i would really love to see things [TS]

  get better for independent developers [TS]

  and I I'm not really clear how I mean a [TS]

  lot of the the standard answers like [TS]

  trials and things like that that may or [TS]

  may not improve things but whatever the [TS]

  answer is especially what with the [TS]

  shake-up that we discussed be the last [TS]

  week in week 4 i'd really like to see [TS]

  and I think it's plausible to see the [TS]

  appstore get better actually but both [TS]

  for independent developers which is how [TS]

  is originally coming at this but also [TS]

  for users you'll see search get better [TS]

  to see things like a Home Sharing I've [TS]

  never tried because I was petrified of [TS]

  trying because I've heard it's terrible [TS]

  all of that can we just make that better [TS]

  please [TS]

  that's pretty vague item i mean it is is [TS]

  plausible definitely possible give you [TS]

  picked one thing for example say you [TS]

  picked up great pricing [TS]

  hundred percent plausible that is merely [TS]

  a policy change it could happen you [TS]

  could have said but instead you just [TS]

  kind of pointed and said I want [TS]

  something better to happen for the app [TS]

  store but you're not willing to say what [TS]

  that is i can see that is definitely a [TS]

  lot of plausible things [TS]

  yeah and I think the thing of it is that [TS]

  I'm not so convinced that all the things [TS]

  everyone's been whining about our the [TS]

  right answer [TS]

  they may be CEO upgrade pricing might [TS]

  help a lot trials might help a lot but [TS]

  i'm not sure those are the silver [TS]

  bullets everyone says they are and i [TS]

  haven't been able to come up with the [TS]

  silver bullet and i'm pretty sure if i [TS]

  if i could i I would be much better [TS]

  compensated than i am and i probably [TS]

  working at apple but whatever the answer [TS]

  maybe there's gotta be something out [TS]

  there's gotta be a way to make things [TS]

  better [TS]

  maybe it's more transparency let ok I'll [TS]

  go with that because just a little bit [TS]

  more transparency now you might have to [TS]

  hit the pie in the sky buzzer but now [TS]

  better than anyone like to say that like [TS]

  that the problem when one app developers [TS]

  have their application review and they [TS]

  have just like a status line with a [TS]

  canned message that tells them what [TS]

  phase it's in or when it gets rejected [TS]

  like the fact that they can't [TS]

  immediately connect with someone to have [TS]

  a humane discussion about the issues at [TS]

  hand like that just is like some [TS]

  misunderstanding will be cleared up with [TS]

  a five-minute conversation with a person [TS]

  who is empowered to do something in that [TS]

  conversation can never happen to you can [TS]

  send email you can sit and wait for a [TS]

  response [TS]

  sometimes the response makes it clear [TS]

  they didn't understand what you said and [TS]

  just like I don't know if you call a [TS]

  transparency or like communication or [TS]

  like maybe it's a scaling problems can't [TS]

  have individual people talk to [TS]

  individual developers about their [TS]

  problems with your applications and a [TS]

  lot of it has to be canned responses but [TS]

  yeah I think that could definitely [TS]

  improve even if you just through [TS]

  manpower and a charwoman power our human [TS]

  power but just a higher power more [TS]

  people to you know so there's someone [TS]

  always someone available the [TS]

  knowledgeable person available to [TS]

  discuss and a projection to explain what [TS]

  the deal is what needs to be done to fix [TS]

  it if there's a misunderstanding going [TS]

  on you know because at one of the ones [TS]

  I've ever seen a couple times is someone [TS]

  will submit an application and I'll get [TS]

  rejected for reading or writing files [TS]

  from her forbidden ok [TS]

  ocean but the code that is reading or [TS]

  writing forbidden files is from inside [TS]

  an apple framework and it's not clear [TS]

  like did I use the framework wrong that [TS]

  called that i miss configure it and call [TS]

  an API you know that on some kind of [TS]

  misconfigured object and that's why i [TS]

  wrote an overall bad place or is it a [TS]

  bug in Apple's own code where number how [TS]

  you use API it has the potential to [TS]

  write files on a forbidden place or [TS]

  whatever and so developers who get that [TS]

  message i get that rejection like what [TS]

  what do i do not come because I not use [TS]

  that framework because it's like as far [TS]

  as they're concerned it's not their code [TS]

  that's doing it and all the need is [TS]

  someone who ever did this rejection but [TS]

  if Apple even knows to say oh you know [TS]

  you there [TS]

  you know I know it's our code doing it [TS]

  but it's because you're using our API [TS]

  and the wrong way using like this that [TS]

  and it causes the right files here if [TS]

  you use it in this other way I want to [TS]

  that or have someone have the [TS]

  conversation and go oh you're right [TS]

  you're not doing anything wrong that's [TS]

  just a bug in our framework and those [TS]

  conversations either seem to happen way [TS]

  too slowly or not happen at all and a [TS]

  lot of developers get frustrated by you [TS]

  know a rejection that's not actionable [TS]

  like they don't know what it is they [TS]

  just throw up their hands and say well [TS]

  what am I supposed to do about that and [TS]

  I'm not supposed to use the framework am [TS]

  i doing something on it and some [TS]

  respects like well you know it's not [TS]

  apples job to write your application for [TS]

  you but I don't know I've seen enough of [TS]

  those cases that I think a a better more [TS]

  human connection with the faceless [TS]

  machine that is a perv you could benefit [TS]

  all developers me to me like my 2016 [TS]

  wish in regards to appstore improvement [TS]

  is much more broad and vague because [TS]

  honestly i don't expect a lot of these [TS]

  things that you've mentioned happen [TS]

  my wish is simply show us a sign that [TS]

  things might be changing for the better [TS]

  because you know like we got the the [TS]

  phil taking over thing last week show us [TS]

  a sign of movement in the right [TS]

  direction in actual app store status or [TS]

  behavior or policy for years the [TS]

  attitude of the appstore shown by both [TS]

  their communication and by the other [TS]

  action or rather in action for the most [TS]

  part the attitude has been really [TS]

  nothing here needs needs to be changed [TS]

  everything is fine [TS]

  and we know that the system we have now [TS]

  is good and works well in reality the [TS]

  system they have now is ok and works ok [TS]

  but it I i would not say that there's no [TS]

  room for improvement where the attitude [TS]

  from them keeps being by by their [TS]

  actions he's being we don't need to [TS]

  improve this because they really just [TS]

  haven't you know so i would like to see [TS]

  you some sign that they believe that [TS]

  they agree inside that they believe that [TS]

  there are things that could use [TS]

  significant improvement and that they [TS]

  are working on them because we really [TS]

  have seen nothing of that sort so far [TS]

  you just want to like issue an apology [TS]

  or making a statement of purpose or make [TS]

  it make a mission statement to say we [TS]

  agree things are wrong and we will fix [TS]

  them somehow vaguely know i mean i would [TS]

  like to see action but it doesn't have [TS]

  to be a big action yet just like some [TS]

  kind of action that shows that that they [TS]

  are changing things in the after that [TS]

  they are not satisfied with the asteroid [TS]

  let something like they appear so [TS]

  incredibly satisfied with it and that [TS]

  and [TS]

  and [TS]

  just so little has changed about it in [TS]

  seven years where like I i guess i want [TS]

  to see something that indicates that [TS]

  Apple truly believes this is not good [TS]

  enough [TS]

  Casey said that he didn't know you know [TS]

  like it didn't have any specific plans [TS]

  maybe trials on it maybe upgrade pricing [TS]

  isn't it wasn't sure exactly what it was [TS]

  well apples not sure sure about the same [TS]

  things they're not sure that because if [TS]

  they were sure that upgrades and fix it [TS]

  they would do it they sure the trials [TS]

  would make things better they would do [TS]

  it so obviously they also agree with you [TS]

  Casey they're not quite sure what to do [TS]

  and so they're doing nothing and like [TS]

  it's the same same thing with markers [TS]

  request here if you don't have a [TS]

  specific thing like i know you want [TS]

  something to happen but someone inside [TS]

  Apple have to pick which thing it is and [TS]

  it's potentially dangerous could say [TS]

  you're wrong and trials makes the [TS]

  appstore worse instead of better I yeah [TS]

  I mean I guess that kind of film archos [TS]

  things at least we'll be showing what we [TS]

  tried something at least instead of just [TS]

  saying I work you know like but i think [TS]

  the impression you're getting Margo is [TS]

  like because if they don't do anything [TS]

  we just assume i guess they must make [TS]

  its fine because they never do anything [TS]

  it doesn't change yes and so it's like [TS]

  yeah and so them doing something even [TS]

  who was the wrong thing would at least [TS]

  show that they have some internal [TS]

  dissatisfaction it could be argued they [TS]

  the management reshuffle it counts as [TS]

  something even though it is not a change [TS]

  yet that affects developers it does at [TS]

  least show that they think there's [TS]

  something amiss somewhere inside apples [TS]

  organization whether they think the [TS]

  thing that's in this is the app store or [TS]

  some other thing that was affected by [TS]

  the shuffle we don't know but uh know [TS]

  how do i can let that one slide by [TS]

  because it is definitely plausible that [TS]

  it will do something what something [TS]

  vague will not specified [TS]

  hey if I had to scrape the system [TS]

  somehow just for you [TS]

  alright what's your first by here you [TS]

  guys are gonna be vague and big picture [TS]

  minds are just so super specific and so [TS]

  easy i want to know Mac Pro so does [TS]

  Marco so does everybody everyone who [TS]

  doesn't want to hang around a macro [TS]

  every play [TS]

  it's a new mac pro with the you know [TS]

  thunderball three and and my sub item is [TS]

  a new 5k external display to drive off [TS]

  the thing like if we all know we want it [TS]

  we know it has to be coming just make a [TS]

  new mac pro is entirely possible [TS]

  represent plausible and it should come [TS]

  in 2016 and when it comes I'll be [TS]

  excited because i like that and i might [TS]

  even buy one [TS]

  yeah this is I have this i have that [TS]

  also on my list of course under a [TS]

  heading of just complete the retina [TS]

  transition and so what this would have [TS]

  to include is a desktop standalone 5k [TS]

  display and the ability for the mac pro [TS]

  and the laptops to drive it and and [TS]

  maybe the mac mini as well be nice i'm [TS]

  not expecting much on that front because [TS]

  that many is so really updated but that [TS]

  would be nice [TS]

  people look up screens to make monies [TS]

  that are tvs are yes so yeah I totally I [TS]

  mean and and this is very plausible [TS]

  because this is this is going to be the [TS]

  year of Sky lake and and you know we we [TS]

  got like little trickle sky like so far [TS]

  2016 should be if intel has everything [TS]

  together which is not a given but if [TS]

  they have everything together [TS]

  this should be the year of the sky like [TS]

  everywhere so this should be the laptops [TS]

  finally all them all the pros going [TS]

  skylake the macbook one going to Sky [TS]

  lake and getting us USBC port upgraded [TS]

  to also have Thunderbolt coming out of [TS]

  it [TS]

  the macbook pro retina line I I expect [TS]

  to be not only upgrade to Sky like but [TS]

  to also get a redesign we've heard [TS]

  rumors here in the will and i think the [TS]

  timing is right because the current [TS]

  design came out 2012 and Scarlett gives [TS]

  them an excuse to make the battery [TS]

  smaller so i expect there to be a [TS]

  macbook pro sky like refresh this is [TS]

  start getting into predictions me that [TS]

  but this is all just part of it you like [TS]

  I want this to be finally completing the [TS]

  the retina transition in the mac lineup [TS]

  because it has been partially complete [TS]

  literally since 2012 and we are so close [TS]

  we're so close and and we're just not [TS]

  quite there yet until we can get sky [TS]

  like that can drive scarlet chipset with [TS]

  Thunderbolt three that can drive extra [TS]

  5k displays or personal cable and and [TS]

  that is so close we are so close to that [TS]

  do you want to see them get rid of the [TS]

  macbook air so here's what I think will [TS]

  happen on that front not what you think [TS]

  will happen do you want them together [TS]

  like would you be happy like if you [TS]

  could if you could tell Apple to do [TS]

  essentially is discontinuing in the [TS]

  macbook air is entirely [TS]

  feasible so if you were in charge of [TS]

  Apple you say you know in 2016 stop [TS]

  making a macbook air [TS]

  first of all and i think that would be [TS]

  too soon I I wouldn't i would expect the [TS]

  macbook air to get updates from now on a [TS]

  similar schedule to win the mac mini [TS]

  kiss updates i would expect that they [TS]

  wouldn't get rid of the air without [TS]

  compelling things taking its place so [TS]

  obviously on the low end you have the [TS]

  macbook one but the macbook one really [TS]

  does not replace the air in a number of [TS]

  ways because it is so much slower and so [TS]

  much more limited has so many more [TS]

  compromises for that for that thinness [TS]

  than even the air does i do think though [TS]

  that when they redesign the the sky lake [TS]

  macbook pros the retina macbook pro I do [TS]

  think the the newly thinner lighter [TS]

  13-inch retina MacBook Pro will be so [TS]

  close to it to the 13-inch macbook air [TS]

  that i think it will make the macbook [TS]

  air far less relevant so then on the low [TS]

  end you have the macbook one eating into [TS]

  the 11-inch and then you have the the [TS]

  new thinner 13-inch macbook pro eating [TS]

  into the 13-inch air and then I think [TS]

  the airline is pretty much obviously at [TS]

  that point that doesn't mean Apple will [TS]

  stop selling it because Kurt today's [TS]

  Apple does not stop selling anything [TS]

  ever [TS]

  but i do think that both ends will then [TS]

  be adequately attacked and will be [TS]

  clearly replaced for most air buyers at [TS]

  that point so Marco you would said that [TS]

  you want a new mac pro and God help me [TS]

  for encouraging you to talk about this [TS]

  more but why what would this phantom new [TS]

  mac pro do for you that your and i don't [TS]

  mean that sarcastically beloved I'm a 5k [TS]

  imac doesn't do for the most part i'm [TS]

  not sure i would get the next generation [TS]

  mac pro i might get the one after that [TS]

  ultimately what I want out of my [TS]

  computer that the current imac is not [TS]

  satisfying me with is just even more [TS]

  sheer cpu performance like that I i [TS]

  always want more cpu performance than [TS]

  what i have and the way Intel's moving [TS]

  these days new cpu performance does not [TS]

  come easily [TS]

  it does not come quickly skylight is [TS]

  isn't a substantial boost not not like [TS]

  you know twice as fast but it's you know [TS]

  it's faster by a noticeable amount and i [TS]

  would i would get way more course i [TS]

  would probably go 8-core if i got a Mac [TS]

  Pro maybe even 12 but if that would [TS]

  probably insanely price so i would [TS]

  probably go with eight as time goes on [TS]

  my cpu needs just are increasing you [TS]

  know I now i'm taking way more pictures [TS]

  and that now they have this awesome new [TS]

  camera process those pictures is insane [TS]

  i'm shooting 4k video now with my [TS]

  awesome iphone camera and my fancy [TS]

  camera even more the iphone and some [TS]

  dealing with bigger video files with [TS]

  bigger photos as I'm compiling your code [TS]

  and i'll be transitioning to Swift [TS]

  fairly soon all the cpu needs everything [TS]

  keep going up for comfort compilation [TS]

  and everything so ultimately I push my [TS]

  computer to the limit fairly often in my [TS]

  work and you know not for like massively [TS]

  long sustained periods for the most part [TS]

  but for like brief periods of I just [TS]

  need all the horsepower i can get for [TS]

  the next two minutes kind of thing and I [TS]

  do that kind of thing frequently so I [TS]

  really would like more cpu power and [TS]

  that's that is mainly what I've been [TS]

  looking for in in all other ways i'm [TS]

  extremely happy with this with the time [TS]

  act and even cpu power wise versus the [TS]

  wife is available today it is at the top [TS]

  for single-threaded I go I guess the the [TS]

  newer Broadwell based one probably be to [TS]

  buy a few percentage points but it is [TS]

  relative to the entire math lab it is it [TS]

  is one of the like top couple or cut top [TS]

  three that have ever existed in [TS]

  single-threaded performance and even in [TS]

  multi-core it is pretty far up the list [TS]

  until you go to the very high court [TS]

  count mac pros so it is it is really [TS]

  close to as good as you can get already [TS]

  that's why I'm saying like I would [TS]

  probably wait a generation of mac pro [TS]

  but I don't know the generations keeping [TS]

  two or three years long that might [TS]

  change it so that the matter has a [TS]

  timing issue because the the Zeon's that [TS]

  that it would use that would go in and [TS]

  update the the Broadwell Zeon's are [TS]

  coming out next week but though that [TS]

  chipset will not support Thunderbolt [TS]

  three so that chipset most likely won't [TS]

  be able to drive a theoretical 5k apple [TS]

  display but the sky lake city are coming [TS]

  out you know quote later this year that [TS]

  would be a way better chip to use in a [TS]

  macpro updated the [TS]

  three because then you could read the [TS]

  whole thing with Thunderbolt three USBC [TS]

  port and the ability to drive new 52 [TS]

  monitor so I hope that's what they do [TS]

  I don't know that's what the loop but I [TS]

  hope they will wait for sky like eat [TS]

  chips and thank us and I saw that and if [TS]

  they do that would be a really [TS]

  interesting option for me to consider [TS]

  but i probably would probably still [TS]

  wanna way to generation just to get a [TS]

  bigger boost over what i have now you're [TS]

  talking like me now all I don't want to [TS]

  buy this one I wanted by the next one [TS]

  but the the president's historically is [TS]

  that you do buy this one and also the [TS]

  next one truth that that's usually the [TS]

  case yeah well once I learned how easy [TS]

  it is to resell max it it makes it a lot [TS]

  easier than that then becomes like well [TS]

  is it worth spending like you know a [TS]

  thousand dollars to use this computer [TS]

  for 18 months and it's like sometimes [TS]

  the answer is yes you know yet if if you [TS]

  can get like the best computer in the [TS]

  world for what you do every single day [TS]

  by it when it comes out and installed a [TS]

  year later for you know five hundred to [TS]

  a thousand dollars less than what you [TS]

  paid that's not that bad [TS]

  that's pretty good actually it's always [TS]

  the mega college of business you could [TS]

  be the only client to make it as a rent [TS]

  to you max like they rent to head phones [TS]

  and cameras right yeah so I mean I guess [TS]

  that's fine and make sense knowledge i'm [TS]

  surprised that you really are cpu-bound [TS]

  that often because about the only time [TS]

  cpu-bound is what I'm you're compressing [TS]

  video files that have like ripped from a [TS]

  blu-ray or something like that it's so [TS]

  rare that i'm cpu-bound on anything else [TS]

  that i do I don't know [TS]

  alright so who's turn is it now Marcos i [TS]

  believe i made basically least it's [TS]

  still Johnny Mac Pro topic but you have [TS]

  in your list it was a duplicate [TS]

  yeah it really is you know for me it [TS]

  really is part of this kind of this [TS]

  general thing of like it's good i hope [TS]

  to be the year of sky like everywhere [TS]

  and also finally finished the retina [TS]

  transition on Mac finally cover the [TS]

  whole product line with retina now I [TS]

  know how to feel so the market is it [TS]

  cannot follow instructions know all [TS]

  about what he predicts what he just no [TS]

  that's a wish that's because that is not [TS]

  that is not guaranteed you know like [TS]

  this this 5k display might not actually [TS]

  come out [TS]

  yeah you know it the new mac pro using [TS]

  scarlet might not come out or Michael [TS]

  not using Broadwell and not have [TS]

  Thunderbolt three for the next three [TS]

  years we have neglected [TS]

  yeah like my eyes and my items are two [TS]

  things like I want a new mac pro even if [TS]

  its [TS]

  the broad one and the sub items i'm [TS]

  gonna do 5k display and so if I get one [TS]

  of those i got a Mac Pro yeah I'm glad [TS]

  it was because here's what here's what i [TS]

  want to do micro even though it doesn't [TS]

  drive the five guys playing even though [TS]

  I've said that i'm not gonna buy it [TS]

  until it does a new macro would signal [TS]

  that hit that the mac pro is not on the [TS]

  mac mini update cycle you don't mean [TS]

  like that is a line of computers that [TS]

  they consider updating on something [TS]

  approaching a reasonable schedule based [TS]

  on the availability of the chips that [TS]

  everyone thinks they should put in [TS]

  unlike the mini which is like skipped a [TS]

  year or two whatever then someone wakes [TS]

  up because not many what [TS]

  alright yeah here's another one that [TS]

  goes back to sleep again i would like to [TS]

  see some sort of solid story i guess [TS]

  around Swift on the server something [TS]

  that's that's considered that's [TS]

  deliberate that's well thought out some [TS]

  sort of nice Swift on the server package [TS]

  setup framework whatever adjective you'd [TS]

  like to use I want to switch on the [TS]

  server I think that'd be cool [TS]

  from Apple are from somebody else don't [TS]

  care i mean from Apple be better I guess [TS]

  since its first party but really if [TS]

  there was some accepted and understood [TS]

  standard I would really love to see it's [TS]

  something we would not one of those [TS]

  situations like copepods vs Carthage or [TS]

  anything like that like an [TS]

  honest-to-goodness good robust mature as [TS]

  much as it can be given this is all new [TS]

  swift on the server framework I think [TS]

  that would be really really awesome i [TS]

  almost had an item like that on my list [TS]

  but I didn't quite know how to phrase it [TS]

  and I have obviously more demanding [TS]

  about avoiding vagueness than either of [TS]

  you are I was like yeah you know like it [TS]

  like a maybe you know we just need a [TS]

  bunch of libraries for HTTP or just [TS]

  handling the protocol and then like you [TS]

  know sort of web frameworks on top of [TS]

  that or another possibility is some [TS]

  standardized way to talk to databases [TS]

  from a swift you know like it is there [TS]

  so many pieces i'm thinking obviously [TS]

  you know quote-unquote web applications [TS]

  or web applications may just be [TS]

  something that that you no exception [TS]

  returns JSON over HTTP is that web [TS]

  application or you know but just what we [TS]

  think of as when you say server-side [TS]

  think that's what we're all [TS]

  about like not many people are making [TS]

  service these days that aren't talking [TS]

  HTTP right and so that i don't know if [TS]

  you need like especially in the first [TS]

  year like IE it's too much to ask i [TS]

  think to say oh there should be a giant [TS]

  plug proliferation of web framework [TS]

  things and they should all do get out [TS]

  until one clear Victor emerges like it's [TS]

  gonna take like five years right so [TS]

  maybe we'll start smaller and say how [TS]

  about just a standard for starting the [TS]

  server listening on a port dealing with [TS]

  HTTP sending and receiving requests in [TS]

  sending responses sort of the bare-bones [TS]

  the equivalent of you know wsgi and [TS]

  Python or PSG I plaque and pearl or [TS]

  whatever like maybe we start with that [TS]

  that seems like a reasonable year one [TS]

  year goal and even there but they'll be [TS]

  like five competing standards and they [TS]

  have to just Duke it out and then the [TS]

  second year will be clear which one is [TS]

  the best support or whatever yeah I I i [TS]

  would really like that too i just didn't [TS]

  know how to phrase it [TS]

  yeah and I mean people have started [TS]

  doing this there's a tailor which the [TS]

  chat room is linking me to put that in [TS]

  the show notes I feel like there was [TS]

  something else with a really cheesy name [TS]

  and that was one called nest i think i'm [TS]

  not familiar with that those wasn't one [TS]

  called like perfect or something that [TS]

  i'm sure there's like 19 of them like it [TS]

  exactly we will we're asking for is like [TS]

  there to be one or two [TS]

  let's get that are really good well [TS]

  supported debugged the people are [TS]

  building things on like it's really a [TS]

  tough year one called like I mean I i [TS]

  think we'll be making progress in it but [TS]

  anytime you sort of give this kind of [TS]

  playground to people [TS]

  no pun intended there they're just going [TS]

  to everyone's going to try a whole bunch [TS]

  of things and there's i don't know if [TS]

  you can really fast forward through that [TS]

  to get to the end part where we all [TS]

  decide on jquery or whatever and ready [TS]

  to begin we have to do [TS]

  yeah I don't wanna bring JavaScript into [TS]

  this is too painful [TS]

  God even new JavaScript alright have any [TS]

  other thoughts on this or should we move [TS]

  back to John [TS]

  alright John alright so my second or [TS]

  third if you count the 5k display item [TS]

  list and I'm gonna throw this out there [TS]

  but remember this is not a prediction [TS]

  not a prediction new file system did a [TS]

  system for 40 s 10 and for iOS sure they [TS]

  can have it too if they really want [TS]

  that's fine i think it's plausible [TS]

  how long has apple menu new file system [TS]

  for a really really long time they [TS]

  should have been working on this for [TS]

  years and years and years and years and [TS]

  years and they should be working out and [TS]

  they have been like they've worked long [TS]

  enough to have a ZFS dead end with many [TS]

  years back [TS]

  like I feel like it is plausible I don't [TS]

  think it's gonna happen i feel like if i [TS]

  had to predict that would say 20 17 ish [TS]

  but it is plausible and so when I sit [TS]

  down to watch WWE see whether in person [TS]

  or remotely in 2016 [TS]

  i am going to have a plausible hope as [TS]

  opposed to this year which was a [TS]

  slightly less plausible hope that they [TS]

  announced a new file system and I guess [TS]

  they would announce it in the context of [TS]

  the mac or maybe they would announce it [TS]

  all don't even know i just wanted to [TS]

  exist so again this is not a prediction [TS]

  this is the wish and i believe it is [TS]

  planned if it's not plausible shame on [TS]

  Apple because if you say well it's too [TS]

  soon we just started work on this [TS]

  project six months ago you did did you [TS]

  really start six months ago anyway the [TS]

  filesystem and good luck [TS]

  alright Marco for you so i have this [TS]

  whole section here on the Apple watch [TS]

  what i want the apple watch to find it [TS]

  away by all accounts the apple watch is [TS]

  doing decently but by many people's [TS]

  estimations looking at server logs and [TS]

  everything it does seem like many of [TS]

  them are given as Christmas gifts this [TS]

  this past week and you know before that [TS]

  it seems like the Apple watch was doing [TS]

  decently sales-wise you know not a [TS]

  massive like something on fire kind of [TS]

  thing not the next iphone by any means [TS]

  but doing decently so sales-wise it [TS]

  seems like it's gonna be here to stay [TS]

  it's it's a it's a line that is working [TS]

  for apple I worry that it will have the [TS]

  same growth curve as the ipad it will [TS]

  shoot up now as it's the new cool thing [TS]

  and then a lot of people will just drop [TS]

  off or the upgrade cycle will become [TS]

  very long way [TS]

  overlapping wanted to be I think the [TS]

  apple watch is a product that it is like [TS]

  75 percent good it just needs a lot of [TS]

  refinement because everything it does [TS]

  like it does things that are incredibly [TS]

  compelling and it just does them all [TS]

  like almost really well so for the last [TS]

  few days I have been wearing a [TS]

  mechanical watch i have not warm apple [TS]

  watch since I don't know week ago or so [TS]

  so I very mechanical watches i got a [TS]

  Christmas gift and and I'm and I'm [TS]

  learning what this world is like one of [TS]

  the cool things about a mechanical watch [TS]

  besides the fact that I think honestly [TS]

  I'm finally understanding when the when [TS]

  the the watch people said with the Apple [TS]

  watch launch that that is just not a [TS]

  fashion item like it when you compare [TS]

  the way like traditional style watches [TS]

  look versus the way the apple watch [TS]

  looks I think you can say in isolation [TS]

  that the Apple watch can look good you [TS]

  know and many of its configuration think [TS]

  it does look good but when you compare [TS]

  it fashionability wise to mechanical [TS]

  watch I think it's honestly no contest [TS]

  but it's not even the same league but [TS]

  that's ok you know that doesn't need to [TS]

  be it just needs to be good anyway there [TS]

  are so many areas of it and which like [TS]

  like the notifications i do miss now I'm [TS]

  wearing this watch i do miss like when [TS]

  when case you sent me a message earlier [TS]

  my pocket vibrated and I i glanced at my [TS]

  wrist can only stop if it wasn't and i [TS]

  do miss like having my phone out does [TS]

  feeling convenient now that when i get a [TS]

  message to go try to read it and see and [TS]

  see what it is but that feature of the [TS]

  Apple watch is also very frustrating [TS]

  because for me it works most of the time [TS]

  but not all the time every so often at [TS]

  seemingly random intervals i will just [TS]

  stop receiving notifications on my Apple [TS]

  watch but my phone thinks its into the [TS]

  watch so then just they got dropped on [TS]

  the floor and I just don't receive [TS]

  messages until next time i checked my [TS]

  phone which I'm not in the habit of [TS]

  doing anymore because the Apple watch [TS]

  I can look at all the Apple watches core [TS]

  benefits and they all work like 75% well [TS]

  like that and it's frustrating and yes [TS]

  it is it is still its first year and so [TS]

  yes many [TS]

  things are like one point about you know [TS]

  technically it's on software version 2.1 [TS]

  but that doesn't seem to mean what you [TS]

  would expect from A to point out i just [TS]

  think that this product has so much [TS]

  promise but it just needs to be better [TS]

  and it needs to be better in ways that [TS]

  typically don't happen quickly you like [TS]

  like if a product is launched and it's [TS]

  like almost really great that's that [TS]

  almost is really hard to resolve and to [TS]

  remove into just being really great and [TS]

  I I hope Apple can do that with the [TS]

  watch because it really is a very [TS]

  compelling product in a number of ways [TS]

  most of the time and it's just so [TS]

  frustrating that isn't all the time I am [TS]

  so I am so happy having this thing on my [TS]

  wrist now these past few days that just [TS]

  it doesn't do nearly as much as the [TS]

  apple watch by a long shot but it does [TS]

  it every single time every time I look [TS]

  at my wrist the time is displayed every [TS]

  single time and that's what you want to [TS]

  something like that you want it to be [TS]

  that reliable the apple watch isn't and [TS]

  I hope it can be and I hope it is [TS]

  because some good hope for the upgrade [TS]

  cycle because if any device had [TS]

  fashioned going forward it's got that [TS]

  both got a tech thing where this is the [TS]

  big fat version and surely they're going [TS]

  to get dinner right so that will help [TS]

  because it'll make it feel less like a [TS]

  giant screen trailer in your wrist and [TS]

  it's got the fashion thing even if they [TS]

  had made it like as thin as they wanted [TS]

  to make it and they were actually making [TS]

  it bigger again for fashion reasons the [TS]

  way you get someone to buy a new watch [TS]

  next year is can you know commit them [TS]

  this really is a fashion accessory and [TS]

  then make it look different because [TS]

  people or into fashion and fashion [TS]

  things when things look different they [TS]

  don't want to wear the same thing year [TS]

  after year so at the very least it will [TS]

  have a motivator to shorten the upgrade [TS]

  cycle that the ipad doesn't have because [TS]

  no one is upgrading their iPad because [TS]

  their old one is not fashionable yeah I [TS]

  think that's true i recently of animals [TS]

  week or two ago wrote a Apple watch [TS]

  revisited post on my site and i agree [TS]

  with you Marco that I have very mixed [TS]

  feelings about the Apple watch and in [TS]

  fact on [TS]

  the upgrade ease on relay this is with [TS]

  Jason Snelling my curly they do their [TS]

  year-end kind of recap and in you know [TS]

  funny award show and they had solicited [TS]

  feedback from any of the relay hosts [TS]

  that felt like they wanted to [TS]

  participate and I forget exactly what [TS]

  the categories were but I had listed the [TS]

  apple watch both for the most [TS]

  disappointing device as well as the one [TS]

  that has changed my life and host [TS]

  because I really do feel both of those [TS]

  things are true that I had such high [TS]

  expectations for the watch i don't think [TS]

  they've really it's really mad but at [TS]

  the same at the same time that you have [TS]

  to quote myself from my sight you know [TS]

  it's it's become it's made my myphone [TS]

  transition from being a personal device [TS]

  to a private device and that's a really [TS]

  big change [TS]

  it's now my phone is only for me and [TS]

  it's not taking it out constantly unless [TS]

  I choose to it stays in my pocket all [TS]

  the time unless I'm choosing to get it [TS]

  out and that's very different than it [TS]

  used to be when it was buzzing [TS]

  constantly and I would take my phone out [TS]

  in order to see what was going on and [TS]

  triage and whatnot and I agree with you [TS]

  Marco that having notifications on your [TS]

  wrist as long as they work which [TS]

  ninety-nine percent of the time it does [TS]

  for me although occasionally my watch [TS]

  just kind of forgets that it's connected [TS]

  to the phone as long as they work it's [TS]

  phenomenal and it's really changed the [TS]

  way I interact with my phone and so I [TS]

  agree with you I'd like to see here [TS]

  Apple watch colon get better height it [TS]

  is an extremely impressive device and i [TS]

  think i would really miss it if I [TS]

  stopped wearing it [TS]

  yeah i'm also eating on on the on the UI [TS]

  side of the Apple watch [TS]

  I think that's another product where the [TS]

  UI needs a lot of help in certain areas [TS]

  like just the way I mean honestly I i [TS]

  don't think the idea i think this falls [TS]

  off the end of possibility but i would [TS]

  love to see a completely rethinking of [TS]

  the entire app launching paradigm on the [TS]

  watch you know make it more of a like a [TS]

  clock face plus glances only kind of [TS]

  thing and get rid of [TS]

  the entire honeycomb screen and the idea [TS]

  of launching apps that way to get rid of [TS]

  an entire paradigm like I i want to see [TS]

  major rethinking of watching why I also [TS]

  just like it is a smart watch it is a [TS]

  computer be smarter like the the clock [TS]

  faces himself the watch faces themselves [TS]

  are I'm anyways still somewhat dumb and [TS]

  and I you know I've met i mentioned [TS]

  before I wanna go too far into it just [TS]

  like get just get smarter with what can [TS]

  be shown in the face [TS]

  what you have to choose between the [TS]

  relevance of certain information certain [TS]

  kind of like you know some kind of hero [TS]

  stick of like you know do I have to have [TS]

  the timer always showing on the face in [TS]

  order to have it show when it's counting [TS]

  down when I have one running like stuff [TS]

  like that just like make the watch face [TS]

  is smarter [TS]

  why does the minute hand of the utility [TS]

  face ever cover up the date so you can't [TS]

  see what date it is like simple things [TS]

  like that your resume that's why Riley [TS]

  it's a computer you can do smarter [TS]

  things when you compare it to mechanical [TS]

  watches now that I've seen this one a [TS]

  little bit when you when you compare it [TS]

  to mechanical watches the apple watch [TS]

  face isn't that much smarter it has many [TS]

  of the same downsides and mechanical [TS]

  watches do it's a computer it has the [TS]

  ability to show anything to be smarter [TS]

  to to be considerate and to be really [TS]

  you know intelligent and and flexible [TS]

  you know in a way that the current Apple [TS]

  watch face environment doesn't take [TS]

  advantage of it and doesn't really [TS]

  expose or allow and I i really hope to [TS]

  see more of that and and you know but [TS]

  again this i think this push the bounds [TS]

  of possibility because a lot of that [TS]

  would require cutting and redoing and [TS]

  redesigning and rethinking much of the [TS]

  Apple watches existing existing you I [TS]

  honestly don't see Apple doing that [TS]

  instead we have these rumors that the [TS]

  version too hard it'll just be like [TS]

  FaceTime camera added and that sounds [TS]

  insane to me like I hope that that might [TS]

  but i have listed on here is like 2nd [TS]

  gen hardware please let it be [TS]

  substantially faster because the the [TS]

  speed of the watch really impedes [TS]

  kinds of usefulness that you can do with [TS]

  it saps it would be nice if it was a [TS]

  little bit thinner they probably won't [TS]

  happen and i have here [TS]

  facetime camera ? i hope i missing [TS]

  something because i really like I I hope [TS]

  there's a good use for that camera that [TS]

  I'm not thinking of because I can think [TS]

  of one really bad use which should be [TS]

  facetime oh I really hope that's not it [TS]

  so much for Apple to sell nose hair [TS]

  trimmers in its stores soon as people [TS]

  start using that facetime camera is [TS]

  gonna be a running nose hair trimmers [TS]

  you know it they could sell them right [TS]

  next to the hedge trimmers they need to [TS]

  treat to trim it became a total employee [TS]

  at what we got a badge for you god bless [TS]

  america [TS]

  don't worry Casey you almost get credit [TS]

  for that joke yeah that was going to [TS]

  come on [TS]

  goodness alright so does that make it [TS]

  it's my turn again to keep with the [TS]

  super nerdy topics [TS]

  there's a swift package manager for OS [TS]

  10 i'd like to see that on iOS four [TS]

  shirts coming and I'd like to see that [TS]

  get adopted so the previously mentioned [TS]

  Carthage vs cocoapods war just goes away [TS]

  all right be careful what you wish for [TS]

  their because they're like for all the [TS]

  faults you may find that the existing [TS]

  package managers there's still more [TS]

  mature than this brand spanking new [TS]

  swift one so it would I i think what [TS]

  you're asking for is like unification [TS]

  even if it unifying around something [TS]

  that is less mature at this point and [TS]

  yeah that would be good i don't know if [TS]

  that's plausible for next year because [TS]

  yeah that's that's that's like a [TS]

  forward-looking thing where like I would [TS]

  like to see this mess sorted out so that [TS]

  I don't have to deal with these [TS]

  differences and there's just one way [TS]

  that everyone agrees on of of doing this [TS]

  thing like you know German ruby or [TS]

  c-band pearl or whatever and having one [TS]

  thing is better than that one thing [TS]

  being particularly debug door worked out [TS]

  or whatever but the grand for a couple [TS]

  years and more pain and that [TS]

  oh I think you're right but I think if [TS]

  Apple made something really robust and [TS]

  really solid i think it could kind of [TS]

  solve the problem once and for all four [TS]

  yet far for mac and iOS i have probably [TS]

  but like them what are the [TS]

  hope your previous thing about the [TS]

  service I people maybe they come up with [TS]

  their own says matter [TS]

  yeah but that's all I had for well for [TS]

  this one anyway so John alright next [TS]

  item is another see how simple and [TS]

  concise mine are new mac pro new file [TS]

  system 5k display and another concise [TS]

  one Apple pencil for ipad non-pro that's [TS]

  it for the regular what we used to call [TS]

  full-sized iPads not one of those with [TS]

  pencil support it is totally plausible [TS]

  and it would be awesome and I would [TS]

  probably buy one [TS]

  yeah and that honestly that's pretty [TS]

  plausible I i would i'm pretty sure I i [TS]

  wouldn't expect to see it in the mini [TS]

  but i would expect to see at least in [TS]

  the airline this that you know the next [TS]

  heir probably this fall or whatever I [TS]

  hope they do that i mean that's that's [TS]

  probably the main reason i'm not buying [TS]

  him and new ipad magazine ipad3 like [TS]

  it's really it's really checking these [TS]

  days it's slowing down with iOS 9 is [TS]

  making it slow down or just like I'm [TS]

  getting used to my iphone 6 too much i [TS]

  just can't i'm doing much more on my [TS]

  phone using it as a really really small [TS]

  iPad because I just can't stand going [TS]

  over tonight slope is I would've bought [TS]

  an ipad this year except i couldn't get [TS]

  out of my head that I don't want to buy [TS]

  one this year and the next year they [TS]

  have only the pencil because that would [TS]

  be cool so yeah I would like to see you [TS]

  next year [TS]

  alright Marco I would like to see [TS]

  general maturing of the ipad pro you [TS]

  know the word on this topic the ipad pro [TS]

  obviously it's very new it's like you [TS]

  know a month old something out so it's [TS]

  very new the the hardware seems really [TS]

  great the software seems like it needs [TS]

  still a lot of time to bake and that's [TS]

  both first party and third-party [TS]

  software my worry is that this fall [TS]

  before you have had pros even out we saw [TS]

  as you mentioned earlier case we saw the [TS]

  launch of of multitasking on the ipad [TS]

  and there are still so many incredibly [TS]

  useful ipad apps that have not been [TS]

  updated for multitasking and this is not [TS]

  just you know some fluke [TS]

  this is because it is not really worth [TS]

  developers put a lot of effort into most [TS]

  ipad apps and that is a press a big [TS]

  problem for the ipad so I i really hope [TS]

  that in 2016 we see enough worthwhile [TS]

  games on the ipad market wise to be [TS]

  worth developers updating the software [TS]

  because as any ipad pro owner can tell [TS]

  you it is really great when you're using [TS]

  apps that resize properly the ipad pro [TS]

  and support multitasking properly and [TS]

  it's really rough when you're not and [TS]

  you know that's it's bad enough on the [TS]

  on the no 1024 x 768 ipad the the air in [TS]

  the mini it's bad enough on those when [TS]

  you have someone doesn't support [TS]

  multitasking but it's way worse on your [TS]

  iPad pro when you have something that [TS]

  brings up that tremendous old keyboard [TS]

  for cooking because the app is being [TS]

  scaled up [TS]

  it's really rough that will hold the [TS]

  ipad pro back until it is resolved right [TS]

  now it doesn't appear as though that's [TS]

  going to be resolved easily you know [TS]

  because developers of many ipad apps are [TS]

  really not rushing to update them for [TS]

  these new capabilities because it has [TS]

  been it historically it has been so hard [TS]

  to justify putting more effort into ipad [TS]

  programming because this is the market [TS]

  has not rewarded it in a commensurate [TS]

  way for foremost app types i really hope [TS]

  to see that change and then to see a lot [TS]

  more ipad software get updated for [TS]

  modern devices because if that doesn't [TS]

  happen a year from now we're going to [TS]

  hear a lot of really disappointed ipad [TS]

  owners talking about it i don't have an [TS]

  ipad pro side nothing to contribute to [TS]

  this but it makes sense but you just [TS]

  said you know you do have an ipad now [TS]

  with most and support and it does suck [TS]

  when you when you want to multi-task [TS]

  with NASA doesn't support it so that [TS]

  this is all tied it [TS]

  yeah yeah that yeah you're absolutely [TS]

  right about that can we just lump in the [TS]

  lack of Instagram ipad app and they're [TS]

  just for the healthy think things that [TS]

  will annoy every ipad or yet it is [TS]

  always amazed me the iOS applications [TS]

  that don't think it's important to pick [TS]

  your thing to be updated for the I [TS]

  iphone 6 size to do anything sensible on [TS]

  the ipad to have an ipad app at all it's [TS]

  tough when you're not number one even [TS]

  just you know the number to iOS device [TS]

  platforms just that's a big drop off [TS]

  after the iphone yeah and then while i'm [TS]

  on a little the quick iOS topic your iOS [TS]

  device topic here the iphone 7 have a [TS]

  quick little bullet list bullet point [TS]

  here of [TS]

  you know iphone 7 that this year it's [TS]

  gonna be you know but if they follow the [TS]

  pattern which they will almost certainly [TS]

  follow it's gonna be a redesign year for [TS]

  the for the external casing of the [TS]

  iphone is here i'm not going to wish [TS]

  more battery life because that's not [TS]

  possible it is possible you could you [TS]

  could totally what yes it is a hundred [TS]

  implausible you could say you could say [TS]

  you want more battery life in terms of [TS]

  the number of minutes like wall clock [TS]

  time are you could just say i want more [TS]

  milliamp hours you know what i would [TS]

  actually get this is I would like more [TS]

  million powers and i know i know they [TS]

  won't do that because that would make it [TS]

  heavier and thicker they won't get Walt [TS]

  the way Apple gets battery life these [TS]

  days is a combination of power saving [TS]

  parts as technology advances and [TS]

  software improvements to kind of reduce [TS]

  the idol draw and to end to get that get [TS]

  to get more into idle time the the [TS]

  problem i have with with the modern [TS]

  battery life is we're talking about to [TS]

  death so I'm going to go very quickly [TS]

  now is that we have not seen significant [TS]

  advancement in the the battery life of [TS]

  things that are under load things that [TS]

  are like processors that are being used [TS]

  if you're playing no game or using GPS [TS]

  we're streaming music over the cell [TS]

  network through bluetooth or something [TS]

  where things are not going into [TS]

  low-power states or if your laptop your [TS]

  processing photos you're compiling [TS]

  you're doing you're doing hard work [TS]

  you're making the computer work hard [TS]

  we're not seeing big changes in the [TS]

  battery life under load we're seeing [TS]

  almost all the games have last four [TS]

  years have been by stretching out idle [TS]

  time but by making it by making idle [TS]

  time more efficient but am I making the [TS]

  CPUs and travel time more often so I [TS]

  want to see that that top and be raised [TS]

  also and i just think that's not going [TS]

  to happen I i think it's very obvious [TS]

  that Apple is is content to mostly not [TS]

  address that and to instead address the [TS]

  bottom end because the bottom and can be [TS]

  addressed without bigger thicker [TS]

  batteries so I I don't think it's going [TS]

  to happen but I would like my plausible [TS]

  thing my plausible wishlist item on the [TS]

  iphone 7 is 22 somehow address the [TS]

  handhold ability and make it make it [TS]

  more hand-holding bowl without a case [TS]

  because the iphone 6 the first my views [TS]

  of the case I before that every previous [TS]

  iphone I've used that case because I [TS]

  just like it [TS]

  I don't like having you as a case I like [TS]

  having an iphone that just feels good [TS]

  enough and secure enough in my hand that [TS]

  I don't feel the need for a case the six [TS]

  did not do that all the way too slippery [TS]

  and both shape and finish the 6s [TS]

  improved a little bit in that it is [TS]

  still slippery and shape but the finish [TS]

  was less slippery the surface itself i [TS]

  would like to see the seven design [TS]

  hopefully address the the ability to [TS]

  handhold it in a way to feel secure and [TS]

  that is secure it because the all the [TS]

  previous ones i thought were way more [TS]

  handle the six design i think was is [TS]

  pretty rough in that way i'm hoping the [TS]

  seventh we better just the handhold [TS]

  ability to rest of the rest i know is [TS]

  mostly not plausible but that that I [TS]

  want I think you don't you're not [TS]

  following my definition of plausible [TS]

  eyes and able to be done in the physical [TS]

  world without any magic without saying i [TS]

  wanted to be 5 gigahertz CPU but anyway [TS]

  for your capability you just need to [TS]

  fully 12 they just need to put moss on [TS]

  the outside of it but the testing that [TS]

  right now that the iphone foliage wall [TS]

  little just a little you know it's like [TS]

  a chia pet [TS]

  you just you order it going to use fuel [TS]

  cell technology to give out Marco is [TS]

  increased battery life that he does [TS]

  afraid to ask for and then it'll be like [TS]

  a chia pet because you followed up with [TS]

  liquid and that will run the fuel cell [TS]

  and the water vapor that comes out will [TS]

  will help the little hydroponic Moscow [TS]

  and will be really grippy that would be [TS]

  awesome and will be green [TS]

  yeah literally alright my next one hand [TS]

  on heart is written in my field notes [TS]

  earlier today is increased battery life [TS]

  is hard for her to do I say he has the [TS]

  the he has the guts to say it [TS]

  he it's alright it's possible you just [TS]

  put more battery that you just made me [TS]

  think it's straightforward totally [TS]

  doable could be done [TS]

  you could say Andy and it would make you [TS]

  happy if it was done and so there you go [TS]

  yeah and I mean maybe the answers just [TS]

  don't make the next iphone thinner [TS]

  because to my memory every single iphone [TS]

  redesign has been just that little bit [TS]

  thinner than last [TS]

  maybe you know what Apple you go really [TS]

  crazy and you just don't make it thinner [TS]

  this year and just a battery for making [TS]

  dinner but then have a lump on the back [TS]

  where the extra battery [TS]

  haha [TS]

  because then they could say look out [TS]

  much thinner it is we made it doesn't [TS]

  make it really thin and they just put it [TS]

  on the lump like I don't count the lump [TS]

  or not counting that in thickness [TS]

  no I mean like what this comes down to [TS]

  is that the thinnest is not the main [TS]

  problem here the main problem here is [TS]

  wait [TS]

  the thinnest is is the consequence of [TS]

  that like you're like they're not [TS]

  minimizing battery size to make it [TS]

  thinner they they want to make it [TS]

  thinner over all and they're they're [TS]

  trying to hit a weight goal and then the [TS]

  the size of the battery batteries like [TS]

  the heaviest thing in there so the size [TS]

  of the battery is is what lets them you [TS]

  know if they can keep the battery small [TS]

  that keeps the weight down and then they [TS]

  can make the enclosure really small and [TS]

  thin around it so it's this is really [TS]

  about wait one more than thickness by [TS]

  itself you know I think this is a [TS]

  secondary consequences of reducing [TS]

  weight so what we're really asking for [TS]

  if we want bigger batteries were asking [TS]

  for us make the phones heavier and i'm [TS]

  at that's why I'm not sure they would do [TS]

  it then the iphone sexy and heavier than [TS]

  5s I believe it did I thought that was [TS]

  the 6s two verses 6 because of the 3d [TS]

  touch stuff yeah I just mean like one [TS]

  that when the phone got bigger than [TS]

  enough the foreign screen you know well [TS]

  but that's explainable even to a regular [TS]

  consumer because I look it's bigger than [TS]

  us there's more stuff I know but just [TS]

  like is it's not it's not on it's not [TS]

  unprecedented to to go heavier anyway [TS]

  the amount the amount of extra weight [TS]

  added by the batteries is nobody yet is [TS]

  reversing a trend like they're making a [TS]

  thinner because they want to be lighter [TS]

  than to be lighter than you know that's [TS]

  the direction are going but I still [TS]

  think for a list of possible things that [TS]

  could go enlist that was my last one so [TS]

  I'm tapped out from here and I got two [TS]

  related ones one since we're talking [TS]

  about iphone things I don't even know if [TS]

  it's something that I really care about [TS]

  that much i guess it gets more into [TS]

  production I guess I kinda do care about [TS]

  it i'm always screens and phones as [TS]

  rumours about that and 44 power [TS]

  efficiency reasons and maybe because it [TS]

  will encourage more user interfaces that [TS]

  are all white and maybe because they can [TS]

  make it thinner and lighter i don't know [TS]

  all the the advance [TS]

  just a little bit but I feel like LCD on [TS]

  phones as as a power draw a source and [TS]

  just that you know that technology [TS]

  especially as they incorporate more [TS]

  things in there like maybe they will if [TS]

  they ever let you use the pencil with [TS]

  the phone or something i really like to [TS]

  see Apple take the next sleep with their [TS]

  iOS devices and start transitioning to [TS]

  oled everywhere because that seems to be [TS]

  the way things are going in my related [TS]

  item actually getting awful apple stuff [TS]

  for a change is I want to see more non [TS]

  curved OLED televisions they [TS]

  concentrated picture quality [TS]

  this year has been the year that old TVs [TS]

  become a thing that you can buy for a [TS]

  reasonable price they're the new picture [TS]

  quality King a whole bunch of them are [TS]

  curved but it's really early to be [TS]

  buying like this is not the year to buy [TS]

  an oled TV unless you just want to buy [TS]

  it like i said people ask for advice [TS]

  buy it with the idea that you're gonna [TS]

  sell it because it's like the people who [TS]

  bought the plasma is like the first or [TS]

  second year they were out that's fine [TS]

  you get to enjoy a fancy new TV but [TS]

  assume you're going to sell it in the [TS]

  year or two because the year or two or [TS]

  three the ones that come out are going [TS]

  to be so much better than yours for so [TS]

  much less money that you just you can [TS]

  have to you know be resigned to sell and [TS]

  trade up to a nicer model but I feel [TS]

  next year is the year when Woods [TS]

  hopefully they get rid of this stupid [TS]

  curve thing because I don't know who is [TS]

  buying these things with herv's who [TS]

  wants some occurs I don't there's no [TS]

  advantage to its dumb it needs to just [TS]

  go away [TS]

  yeah flat oled tvs that concentrate [TS]

  concentrate on picture quality because a [TS]

  lot a lot of the old legs now letís in [TS]

  general usually don't concentrate a [TS]

  picture quality control and smart TV [TS]

  type features or you know some other gee [TS]

  whiz thing or they just want to say this [TS]

  is the cheapest 4k TV you can get this [TS]

  particular size I want the ones that [TS]

  actually concentrate on picture quality [TS]

  not that I would particularly by one but [TS]

  I I just you know I hate looking year [TS]

  after year at TVs that are available and [TS]

  realizing i don't want any of these tvs [TS]

  and just praying that my poor partially [TS]

  burned in plasma just keeps working [TS]

  until I can until someone makes TV that [TS]

  i can replace it with ultimately you can [TS]

  just wish that that burned spot [TS]

  eventually wears out during one st [TS]

  well I mean I'm still pretty well like [TS]

  the cartoon network logo the other day [TS]

  and it's it has paid substantially the [TS]

  Destiny Hut is still kind of family [TS]

  visible but yeah that the television [TS]

  logos this channel logos are honestly [TS]

  worse than destiny now there's not much [TS]

  you can do about that the channel logo [TS]

  screen except for tell these television [TS]

  stations because guess what [TS]

  oh it burns into so please television [TS]

  stations make your logos transparent or [TS]

  maybe don't show them on the screen the [TS]

  entire show I get it I understand what [TS]

  network i'm watching put it on like 43 [TS]

  seconds and then you come out of [TS]

  commercial break or or not at all [TS]

  that should be a feature like your back [TS]

  to luxury TV network we never put us [TS]

  through the local on your screen that [TS]

  the real luxury past extra money and we [TS]

  never shown add that is a luxury that's [TS]

  what people like HBO [TS]

  hey what let's watch HBO show it just [TS]

  plays there's no commercials in it and [TS]

  there's no breaks or commercial just [TS]

  play straight through that is that is a [TS]

  desirable experience who doesn't like [TS]

  that of course you also would like to [TS]

  get your television for free to [TS]

  understand advertisers have to work but [TS]

  for four stations that you know the idea [TS]

  of its quality of life issue four [TS]

  stations that are that have ads on the [TS]

  different plan on regular TV they could [TS]

  advertise the fact that we never cover [TS]

  the screen with like a promo for an [TS]

  upcoming show [TS]

  I guess they have to put the rating [TS]

  thing in there you know the TV lsv and [TS]

  you know whatever i guess i watch shows [TS]

  with too many letters in them [TS]

  yeah they're all HBO shows but everybody [TS]

  you know they have to put a little of [TS]

  the little logo up on the screen and let [TS]

  you guys know this because I don't know [TS]

  I turns anyway they put that in the four [TS]

  by three you know that the frame the [TS]

  four by three frames like they don't put [TS]

  in the corner of the sixteen by nine [TS]

  screen they put it so will be visible if [TS]

  you're watching 16 by 9 content with [TS]

  this sides cut off so it's 4 by 3 [TS]

  I don't think I was going to my own [TS]

  pictures on my phone and then had a good [TS]

  picture of what i was watching a sense [TS]

  of Anarchy back when it was on back when [TS]

  I was actually kind of not terrible [TS]

  where the logo that the TV MA LSB [TS]

  whatever logo was dead center over an [TS]

  actor's face like it is their head was [TS]

  enjoying their head was a gigantic [TS]

  square like seriously like you can't [TS]

  even and like you move that out of the [TS]

  way it's like when you re watch it later [TS]

  that will be gone [TS]

  that's it that's your missing you know [TS]

  part of the [TS]

  so because of that in the same thing [TS]

  when they the promos for the upcoming [TS]

  shows go up anyway [TS]

  yeah I guess that's another bullet item [TS]

  television stations it is within your [TS]

  power both technically and policy wise [TS]

  to stop doing that stop please stop [TS]

  doing that I i'll pay you extra money to [TS]

  not put your logo on the screen and do [TS]

  not interrupt my program with other [TS]

  things dancing across the bottom of my [TS]

  screen [TS]

  alright Marco I mean my I think my my [TS]

  overall wrap up here for my topic list [TS]

  but the lesson I have on here really is [TS]

  for Apple to just show more focus you [TS]

  know focus it has been i think the [TS]

  attribute that I've been missing the [TS]

  most in Apple's recent launches because [TS]

  they're just getting so much more broad [TS]

  that they're there are dressing so many [TS]

  more kinds of products the larger [TS]

  picture than ever the services list is [TS]

  bigger than ever I i had it it does seem [TS]

  like their focus is not where it used to [TS]

  be and so I would like to just see more [TS]

  focus and maybe that means ending some [TS]

  product lines or ending some initiatives [TS]

  that haven't worked out like you know [TS]

  all the various like kits on iOS i think [TS]

  a lot of those have not quite worked out [TS]

  just like you just they've started so [TS]

  much a lot of it has has fallen flat [TS]

  maybe they should end of things and [TS]

  actually increase their focus so we'll [TS]

  see what happens there i'm not really [TS]

  hold my breath on that one [TS]

  you may be saved because the car is not [TS]

  going to come out 2016 so you can [TS]

  pretend right focus then all of a sudden [TS]

  in 2018-19 guess what we make car like a [TS]

  apple what happened to the focus [TS]

  yeah and you buy one of the cars 2 [TS]

  that'll be fun [TS]

  probably super fun but what do I want [TS]

  that [TS]

  what do I want a one-point of Apple car [TS]

  and whether you want one or not doesn't [TS]

  it may appear here is the test at least [TS]

  we'll be up by then you'll be looking [TS]

  around you'll be restless [TS]

  no see it's gonna happen already [TS]

  replacing your tehsil hasn't arrived yet [TS]

  I goodness right [TS]

  I told John done so Johnny anything else [TS]

  for any closing thoughts now the only [TS]

  other item I had on my list was like a [TS]

  vague one that I couldn't nail down was [TS]

  you know they're there are so many [TS]

  remaining bugs so many sort of obvious [TS]

  bugs that not obvious and how to fix [TS]

  them but obvious that something is not [TS]

  working great [TS]

  and you always just hope that some kids [TS]

  job somewhere to fix those and it's kind [TS]

  of I don't know if this one counts as [TS]

  this is the vague and probably not [TS]

  really plausible because I don't know if [TS]

  Apple makes I don't know how much extra [TS]

  value Apple ads by fixing the staff of [TS]

  bugs but we all encounter them from time [TS]

  to time and just just makes me wish like [TS]

  the only time i can feel like this wish [TS]

  is not a fantastical are wishing for a [TS]

  pony is when like I know the developer [TS]

  who makes the application it's like one [TS]

  person who makes an application and I [TS]

  know that if I report this bug this one [TS]

  person will see that bug report and [TS]

  realize that they are embarrassed that [TS]

  this bug happens and they don't want [TS]

  their application to have this bug and [TS]

  they'll fix it and then within a month [TS]

  or two it will be fixed but that just [TS]

  doesn't happen with things that are made [TS]

  by apple if you find some small bug like [TS]

  that was just kind of embarrassing i [TS]

  like text overruns the bounding box that [TS]

  is supposed to be in or clicking on this [TS]

  thing doesn't work until the second time [TS]

  you click it because of some event you [TS]

  know responder chain business or [TS]

  whatever an individual developer who you [TS]

  know will want to fix that because it [TS]

  doesn't seem like a big deal on their [TS]

  embarrassed that they have an [TS]

  application that you have to click the [TS]

  checkbox twice to make it you know what [TS]

  I mean like it's not a crasher not a [TS]

  data loss bug but they'll fix it kind of [TS]

  just individual pride and craftsmanship [TS]

  or whatever and it depresses me that the [TS]

  larger the organization gets the less [TS]

  hope you have to those type of bugs will [TS]

  ever get addressed unless you just [TS]

  happen to catch somebody on a good day [TS]

  when they don't have anything else to do [TS]

  you know when they're not working on [TS]

  their p1's or whatever they just [TS]

  happened to go and fix that because [TS]

  fixing that could cause some other [TS]

  problem that could cascade into a thing [TS]

  that costs are multi-billion dollar [TS]

  company lots of money and reduces their [TS]

  customer set an individual developer [TS]

  just fix it in their app and I kinda [TS]

  like that and I kind of Miss that from [TS]

  for Apple but that's that's getting into [TS]

  that's that's why it's not on my list of [TS]

  a corner anyway but some of my list i [TS]

  have a bunch of simple concrete things [TS]

  that could totally happen [TS]

  would make me happy and by the way i [TS]

  think most of them if I had to predict [TS]

  will these things happen [TS]

  it's a pretty good shot for a lot of [TS]

  them so I think 2016 will be a good year [TS]

  for me hold out hope for the filesystem [TS]

  well maybe maybe not that front i keep [TS]

  saying 2017 not that good [TS]

  yeah goodness all right we good are we [TS]

  good [TS]

  thanks a lot 23 sponsored this week [TS]

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  we'll see you next week [TS]

  now the show is over they didn't even [TS]

  mean to begin as it was accidental [TS]

  it was accidental John research Marco [TS]

  and Casey would let [TS]

  because it was accidentally was [TS]

  accidental and you can find the show [TS]

  know today [TS]

  DP died and it for twitter follow them [TS]

  yes eyl ISS so that's Casey list and a [TS]

  co-pay rm20 Marco Arment are see you at [TS]

  Syracuse [TS]

  we did it [TS]

  it clearly you need to give much more [TS]

  specific instructions for Marco and I i [TS]

  thought i was so specific [TS]

  I like it was concise and specific [TS]

  instructions and just that I don't know [TS]

  maybe I should have given more examples [TS]

  maybe we should give more examples of [TS]

  what not to do [TS]

  I don't know it's just forget to wish [TS]

  for my my theoretical 17 inch 4k macbook [TS]

  pro that with skylight might be around [TS]

  five pounds right 17 inch 4k macbook pro [TS]

  mmm thinking about it makes a lot of [TS]

  sense think you'd be better off wishing [TS]

  for a 17 inch iPad pro with a keyboard [TS]

  that is more firmly attached and that'll [TS]

  be as fast as year as the sky like a [TS]

  macbook pro in like three or four years [TS]

  mmm yeah no I mean it thats a dude [TS]

  that's why it's a longshot stretch i'm [TS]

  not even sure i would buy one [TS]

  yeah would you use the 17 inch laptop [TS]

  dunno well bigger than you are haha he's [TS]

  like when you know I I'm not carrying my [TS]

  life everyday I i bring it on trips when [TS]

  I have to get worked on and whenever i [TS]

  do that i am always starving for more [TS]

  screen space just screen share to your [TS]

  imac home [TS]

  well and it's all in your mind man [TS]

  yeah i mean like we have giant space is [TS]

  just like your opinion man i'm just [TS]

  doing a 5k imac you're using a bigger [TS]

  screen it's not a smaller screen but [TS]

  it's bigger [TS]

  there's so many pixels you won't notice [TS]

  the difference [TS]

  I mean like it you we have everyone's [TS]

  like you always do this everything [TS]

  because this giant heavy aircraft [TS]

  carrier and yes the last time we saw [TS]

  what it was but now like that the [TS]

  17-nation i think last time we start [TS]

  with something like six pounds right [TS]

  something like that but like in at the [TS]

  same time the 15-inch was like five or [TS]

  five and a half while the 17-inch was [TS]

  like six and a half so you know you can [TS]

  see that the ratio there you know it's [TS]

  not that much more than efficient well [TS]

  now since then the 15-inch has gotten [TS]

  way smaller and lighter with the red [TS]

  transition with the Scylla tradition [TS]

  it's probably gonna be even more so [TS]

  so i'm guessing it would be possible [TS]

  with Sky lake [TS]

  make a 72-inch that had a reasonable [TS]

  battery life that is roughly five and a [TS]

  half pounds and maybe even five pounds [TS]

  depending on you know how can they can [TS]

  they can go with the battery without [TS]

  having to be too small so that is [TS]

  different like it puts a different spin [TS]

  on things i mean like with the sky like [TS]

  thing I bet we're going to see a lot [TS]

  more people saying you know what now [TS]

  that it's so much thinner and lighter i [TS]

  might go 15-inch next time we're would [TS]

  have gone 30 days before you go I think [TS]

  we'll start seeing people justify going [TS]

  bigger in the same way like look all the [TS]

  ipad people just discovered you know [TS]

  what after all having a much bigger one [TS]

  is more productive [TS]

  look at that like the same thing applies [TS]

  with computers laptops like as they're [TS]

  going to get thinner and lighter we're [TS]

  going to see a lot more people say you [TS]

  know what i was gonna go air but now [TS]

  I'll go 13 inch pro I was into a 13 inch [TS]

  pro now I'm gonna go 15-inch brokers and [TS]

  I i fell in the store it was so much [TS]

  lighter than I expected and wow all this [TS]

  extra screen space is really nice i can [TS]

  get a lot more stuff done [TS]

  like obviously this is not news people [TS]

  use computers where it seems like that's [TS]

  news to ipad people but you know that [TS]

  might happen at the mac line where if [TS]

  they have a bigger one [TS]

  you know what that actually is pretty [TS]

  nice so I don't know again it's just a [TS]

  stretch and i'm not even sure i would [TS]

  buy one but that would be really cool i [TS]

  think it's an opportunity for them to [TS]

  make up for the sins of the past and [TS]

  actually put a different keyboard on it [TS]

  than the one that's on the macbook one [TS]

  right well and that's a big deal until [TS]

  like I didn't mention the keyboard like [TS]

  I would expect all the new skylight [TS]

  macbook pros if they're going to be [TS]

  redesigned it all looks and sounds like [TS]

  they probably will be i would expect [TS]

  them to get not the macbook one keyboard [TS]

  but the keyboard that's that's in the [TS]

  new standalone apple keyboard the magic [TS]

  is a comment keyboard is that the new [TS]

  standalone keyboard i'm guessing it get [TS]

  that one which is it not nearly as bad [TS]

  as the map on keyboard it's you know it [TS]

  is in that style but it is done i think [TS]

  way better [TS]

  I don't mean like a travel I mean as in [TS]

  morkie specific the 17-inch you have so [TS]

  much more room to put keys so put [TS]

  full-size our keys and put in all the [TS]

  home and keys and page up and page down [TS]

  instead of taking these remember one of [TS]

  my early [TS]

  reviewed like being at one of the non [TS]

  unibody aluminum powerbook g4 is for [TS]

  arstechnica and like that that is [TS]

  seriously screenshot showing the same [TS]

  keyboard on the 12-inch the 15-inch [TS]

  SMU's literally the same keyboard and [TS]

  you know on a 12-inch goes edge-to-edge [TS]

  and on the 17 inch its vast sea of [TS]

  aluminum with this tiny little keyboard [TS]

  floating at it's like bring you have so [TS]

  much more room [TS]

  add more keys please I don't know I i [TS]

  assume they wouldn't which would be sad [TS]

  that like you just this giant beginning [TS]

  of this be the look you know as soon as [TS]

  you make it [TS]

  the aluminum area has to be the same as [TS]

  the size of the screen like you're not [TS]

  gonna make the bottom smaller than the [TS]

  top and so you have you have this huge [TS]

  area with which to put keys and you just [TS]

  decide this tiny little island in the [TS]

  middle of the size of the macbook one [TS]

  the only area we're going to have keys [TS]