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145: Lasers and Pew-Pew and Space Aliens

 

00:00:00   I made the mistake of going to the grocery store today I figured you know [TS]

00:00:03   if I go yes Thanksgiving week but if I go on Monday at New no one else is gonna [TS]

00:00:10   be there is a way too early and at the middle of the day people take off the [TS]

00:00:13   whole week I think I don't understand where everybody was when I went to work [TS]

00:00:16   today it was a little traffic there was a lot of people in the parking lot don't [TS]

00:00:19   go to the the any food many places that sell food or beverages this week all of [TS]

00:00:25   the traffic was in my grocery store's parking lot apparently everybody else in [TS]

00:00:30   the world had the same idea that I did no one's gonna be there on Monday at [TS]

00:00:34   noon i didnt i didnt know you live in a retirement community we need something [TS]

00:00:41   fun and clever to start the show it maybe we can do a little bit of [TS]

00:00:44   follow-up John's favorite topic [TS]

00:00:46   the internet has given us a gift today and by the internet I mean David Collett [TS]

00:00:51   lead I'm so sorry that I probably pronounced it wrong but david has given [TS]

00:00:57   us the John Siracusa paper doll kit which this is really a call out to [TS]

00:01:03   reconcile differences which this is this is a different privacy has confused [TS]

00:01:07   about what we're doing that I know this was followed is John keep up or taken [TS]

00:01:10   out with john why are you acknowledging the fallout has a solid meaning and you [TS]

00:01:14   are arguing over what it is I don't know what followed me and so I know this is a [TS]

00:01:17   topic they were probably talked about it on that other podcasts like when you say [TS]

00:01:21   it like area on another network we can even a mule's but it's fine if you wanna [TS]

00:01:30   do paper dolls fun guy just I wanted to be just wanted to call everyone's [TS]

00:01:34   attention to this absolutely phenomenal tweet from from David with the John [TS]

00:01:40   Surtees a paper doll your nose was a little read off each for my taste if [TS]

00:01:44   that's a style that's not that's not a reflection on my actual knows didn't [TS]

00:01:49   even notice the Clinton in 1992 shirt that's very few knew what the Rangers [TS]

00:01:56   look like I should [TS]

00:01:57   they're printing us out for my kids to play with my god they would have the ATP [TS]

00:02:05   shared addition obviously can we get this printed on like a sheet of magnet [TS]

00:02:10   things that you could actually is that is like a company that does that I'm [TS]

00:02:15   sure is that he's done some other pictures of me as well as they go on [TS]

00:02:21   we're running back you know that one it's the layers are in folders [TS]

00:02:27   accessories torso pants footwear so you can add this is this actually you don't [TS]

00:02:32   even need many can actually talk about everything right from here as long as [TS]

00:02:35   you're willing to launch Photoshop as a people been doing with a composed the [TS]

00:02:38   different versions of me still put a link to the belief that we will put a [TS]

00:02:45   link to the website where you can see all this stuff is really is incredible [TS]

00:02:48   said you guys are we all did a very terrible job explain why does exist [TS]

00:02:53   yeah that's true anyway I'm reconcilable differences which is about guess it with [TS]

00:02:57   marlon man we talked about closing at one point and this is my phones idea [TS]

00:03:01   that someone should make a paper doll version of me to help dress me he got [TS]

00:03:05   into his head that that he wants to do a makeover like that you know those are [TS]

00:03:10   clear I type shows us where there's someone who doesn't have any fashion [TS]

00:03:13   sense and other people with fashion sense want to fix him that's what he [TS]

00:03:17   wants to do to make her want other people to do to me so he go paper dolls [TS]

00:03:20   tattoos tattoos lear is a question mark after in the layer 2 because there is [TS]

00:03:28   none [TS]

00:03:30   get that one that nobody talks about well really get to use personally have [TS]

00:03:36   never ever ever ever desire to have a tattoo on the internet you know that [TS]

00:03:40   means they gonna have won six months now [TS]

00:03:49   goodness knows anything I would want anything I would like enough to put on [TS]

00:03:53   my body like a it would probably be like some sort of consumer BS but be [TS]

00:03:58   inevitably I would end up Adrian so I can imagine so I love so I have I have [TS]

00:04:05   configured now the rugby shirt jeans asics shoes and the and the John glasses [TS]

00:04:12   but the boat I it's a fantastic combination hear both sides are cool and [TS]

00:04:18   you would get that reference on TV I got nothing what's up for TV shows my butt [TS]

00:04:27   which speaking of it I think I've gotten to the point that I hate listen to top [TS]

00:04:35   four because so much of what you guys say I've never listened to a podcast [TS]

00:04:41   makes you want to yell at him or i think is working as designed as far as I can [TS]

00:04:45   tell how do I think you're right I absolutely think he right in the thing [TS]

00:04:48   is like I genuinely do enjoy the show in there are times like i I tweeted it both [TS]

00:04:53   of you earlier today I genuinely thought that the way you handled the pizza [TS]

00:04:56   discussion was perfect because without question it is so much easier to find [TS]

00:05:00   good pizza in New York or the surrounding area than anywhere else [TS]

00:05:04   don't say it don't say but there is good pizza we had another places which I did [TS]

00:05:10   say what you said but I assume I will hate it when I know I thought Marco you [TS]

00:05:17   guys both handled it perfectly I really did create it's it's just like that the [TS]

00:05:27   standard john was a bow tie if I don't think the most I fits with their rugby [TS]

00:05:32   shirt I don't think that's it doesn't that doesn't fit I think you should try [TS]

00:05:36   this one day maybe next year to BBC something like that [TS]

00:05:39   showed us my wife who said why do you look so angry angry about either being [TS]

00:05:48   half naked are about other people dressing me I can't imagine you be [TS]

00:05:53   incredibly happy about either of those states so I think it's it's the [TS]

00:05:57   appropriate expression but anyway I I was I was very happy with how you handle [TS]

00:06:03   that but I think part of me so perturbed at top four days because I don't like [TS]

00:06:08   Indian food with the exception of non which is delightful but the thing of it [TS]

00:06:12   is very very well could be that I've just made terrible choices whenever I've [TS]

00:06:17   gone for Indian food even know what I've eaten but I can tell you I'm not like [TS]

00:06:20   any of it and in so I was very perturbed that Indian ranked so high on your list [TS]

00:06:25   however I concur with pizza I concur with Panera and delis I think you're a [TS]

00:06:31   little harsh and Quiznos subway but I can get past that I mean if if if you're [TS]

00:06:38   in a place where the best options you have are Quiznos or subway just go to [TS]

00:06:42   the grocery store and buy cold cuts make it better that like it at that [TS]

00:06:46   wanna see what I did live in those places that's what I did because it was [TS]

00:06:49   better for the most part I did agree with most of what you guys said so and [TS]

00:06:55   you can't forgive that the subway triangle cheese tessellation issue I [TS]

00:07:00   guess you are spot on that I completely agree to give context to this this is [TS]

00:07:05   top for the podcast Marco does with his wife and they supposedly whatever top [TS]

00:07:16   for take-out restaurant stop for Halloween candies what they actually do [TS]

00:07:20   on the show is only vaguely related to that and they're now lately both having [TS]

00:07:24   trouble coming up with up for anything and almost there pains a terribly wrong [TS]

00:07:28   anyway that's the show and it sure we conclude the advertiser podcast sections [TS]

00:07:37   of the spot yes yes you should complain about the fact that I have brought up [TS]

00:07:41   the to podcast that my co-host have done [TS]

00:07:44   I have not brought up any of my extracurriculars but yes he continued to [TS]

00:07:48   be upset John that's that's just your personality casey you didn't even [TS]

00:07:51   mention robot or not [TS]

00:07:52   well now we have to bring up the income people you are on the income people [TS]

00:07:57   especially your show no one ever showed only I understood that reference right [TS]

00:08:09   now that you've ruined follow out for me just as you had planned to use them [TS]

00:08:14   follow up and talk about what been wrote in and said I thought you would never [TS]

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00:10:07   beautiful night so John tell us in this follow-up section what Benji wrote in [TS]

00:10:12   and said we're talking about the iPad pro screen and how it wasn't quite as [TS]

00:10:18   good in terms of color accuracy is as service pro for it not also not as good [TS]

00:10:21   as some of the earlier iPad screens Apple had made her the smaller ones [TS]

00:10:25   anyway and I wondered if it was kind of a shame that it didn't have the new set [TS]

00:10:31   of a wide spectrum or whatever the correct term is that large damage anyway [TS]

00:10:37   display that the iMac does that the cp3 specification which is bigger than RGB [TS]

00:10:43   and then run that one of the reasons that I petrol can't do that is because [TS]

00:10:47   it requires an RGB backlight so these Koreans that we call it STDs but [TS]

00:10:51   sometimes all LEDs LED just refers the backlight so you've got a bunch of you [TS]

00:10:56   got this semi transparent thing in front but little colored section is that you [TS]

00:11:00   can turn on and off in different mountain behind it [TS]

00:11:02   behind most computers have a big white light on all the time [TS]

00:11:06   over the entire screen for computer screens anyway and apparently the iMac [TS]

00:11:10   has instead of a big white light behind it and RGB backlight so the back like [TS]

00:11:15   that can be different colors instead of just white and I didn't know that I know [TS]

00:11:19   televisions do that on television and also to wear tricks with the backlight [TS]

00:11:23   to try to make the image look better but it makes sense that if the iMac as an [TS]

00:11:28   orgy of a cloud perhaps they can't get that small enough for low-power enough [TS]

00:11:31   to be a pro just yet [TS]

00:11:34   company had to wake up more years I guess they're not but I did not know [TS]

00:11:38   that I really didn't have any idea that there was an RGB back that's very cool [TS]

00:11:42   tell me about iMac insomnia do my wife's new 27 inch iMac [TS]

00:11:50   was saying last week that kid seems to have insomnia put to sleep and animal [TS]

00:11:56   wake up again or will just walk away from the computer after using it and [TS]

00:11:59   then come back an hour later it still awake and I wasn't quite able to figure [TS]

00:12:02   out why lots of listeners sent in suggestions [TS]

00:12:06   one coming along with the IR receiver if it's in the line of sight of something [TS]

00:12:11   that sprays I are like a remote control or one of those IR blaster things or [TS]

00:12:15   whatever [TS]

00:12:16   conceivable that the IR receiver on a Mac which I guess it has won I don't [TS]

00:12:20   know but have an uneven check did have one theory is that for our computers to [TS]

00:12:25   do have an IR receiver if it's near your television or something like that you [TS]

00:12:29   could keep it away just with IR input I don't know that theory is correct [TS]

00:12:33   because i think is that fine line of sight of any I R and I don't even know [TS]

00:12:38   if my thing has IR receiver probably does but anyway the next guess was [TS]

00:12:43   Bluetooth if you go to the Bluetooth preference pane this is annoying this is [TS]

00:12:47   an inside Energy Saver Bluetooth preference pane then you have to click [TS]

00:12:51   on Advanced then there's a checkbox that says allow Bluetooth devices to wake [TS]

00:12:55   this computer and that was checked by default so I unchecked it and I think my [TS]

00:13:00   problems are solved but I've got that the reason that feature exists that you [TS]

00:13:03   have my Mac if you get it with the recommended Apple crappy cripples [TS]

00:13:08   Bluetooth keyboard and the recommended bluetooth mouse then you don't have your [TS]

00:13:13   mouse or keyboard connected with a wire to computers on your computer was asleep [TS]

00:13:17   if you don't have the setting checked and you hit the spacebar like to wake up [TS]

00:13:20   your computer or wiggle the mouse or click the mouse button or something [TS]

00:13:23   the computer on actually wake up I don't have that problem we've got a wired [TS]

00:13:26   keyboard attached to it actually a USB mouse that's so i'll check that thing [TS]

00:13:34   and so far so good the computer has not had insomnia it hasn't woken up [TS]

00:13:38   spontaneously and go to sleep it stays asleep so I'm pretty well convinced that [TS]

00:13:42   I solve my problem exxon I would never would have guessed it was Bluetooth [TS]

00:13:46   acting up but I'm glad to figure that out I also don't understand how you [TS]

00:13:51   could have wires on your desktop [TS]

00:13:52   you know teacher it's a keyboard tray so the wires are going to anything [TS]

00:13:56   he portrayed the right height you know but the desk at the right to low and [TS]

00:14:04   then you need some of the the computer oh yeah that's easier than managing [TS]

00:14:08   keyboard I think the main reason wife like the keyboard tray is that it gives [TS]

00:14:13   her more room to jump on the desk because he didn't hire service desk in [TS]

00:14:18   front of you is free for like having papers and stuff like sometimes it's [TS]

00:14:21   good to be like referring to note I'm just piling stuff but really it's [TS]

00:14:24   convenient I think I would even if I didn't need to forget positioning you [TS]

00:14:28   never had like a despot that went up and down I get it right in fact I had to [TS]

00:14:31   work my desk at work has somewhat adjustable and I tried putting it down [TS]

00:14:35   to a level that it should be for the keyboard and I just like the desk higher [TS]

00:14:38   and the little train journey that's what I'm used to any other follow that was [TS]

00:14:43   another quick round of all very proud of us well this is a trip here time after [TS]

00:14:48   the after the last episode I'm sure yeah and also its its low for the holidays I [TS]

00:14:52   feel like we need to have like a laid-back episode 42 drink added realize [TS]

00:14:59   that was the plan [TS]

00:15:00   yeah right to speak of holidays John you came up with an idea for this episode [TS]

00:15:04   yet because we're recording this on a Monday only a few days after record the [TS]

00:15:09   last episode because our offer our holiday is Thanksgiving holiday [TS]

00:15:13   vacations and travels and so on I thought what better way to celebrate [TS]

00:15:18   Thanksgiving which is a holiday here in the us- people outside the US can look [TS]

00:15:23   it up its pretty down as far as hot as hell but anyway it is a holiday and we [TS]

00:15:26   get off a little slow down you gonna have to explain yourself on that one [TS]

00:15:30   it's it's one of those holiday is the really is [TS]

00:15:35   doesn't really make much sense it's not really that historically significant [TS]

00:15:39   it's only because the people involved in it where the important enough people to [TS]

00:15:42   celebrate something like they're celebrating the story of Thanksgiving [TS]

00:15:45   but bottom line is we you know people European countries are all the [TS]

00:15:49   indigenous people took all the plant and not feel guilty for it and stuff but [TS]

00:15:53   heavy hearted kind of celebrating how nice it was that we all cooperated is [TS]

00:15:56   like weird like yeah and then we live together happily ever after right now we [TS]

00:16:01   don't anyway it's not as bad as Columbus Day but it's close but we don't care [TS]

00:16:07   because it's just the holiday season and we have turkey and got around with [TS]

00:16:10   family and argue about politics are your Thanksgiving is going to go I don't make [TS]

00:16:15   this into a downer bottom line is we get off work at 10 straight to his party but [TS]

00:16:19   only for Thursday you have to take a vacation day for Friday or just you know [TS]

00:16:24   be retired like some of us are mile even Marco has to visit family at [TS]

00:16:28   Thanksgiving Thanksgiving I would I would rather work for the rest of the [TS]

00:16:34   year full time than deal with Thanksgiving family drama untrue you [TS]

00:16:38   don't know my family [TS]

00:16:39   well I don't know why I think you underestimate what it would be like to [TS]

00:16:43   work for the rest of the year waking up and getting into an office and [TS]

00:16:46   committing to going to get in the middle of this anyway I don't do a downer [TS]

00:16:53   Thanksgiving which I get that even though the stupid holiday it is a [TS]

00:16:57   holiday and one of the good things about thanksgiving is a time of year when in [TS]

00:17:02   theory you are supposed to reflect on what you are thankful for that is [TS]

00:17:06   usually the part of the evening before people get drunk and angry and started [TS]

00:17:09   politics sometimes occur on the table and say and say what you think you'll [TS]

00:17:13   fall for or whatever whoever has the most willing and able to induce [TS]

00:17:18   embarrassment in your extended family using make this happen so i guess im [TS]

00:17:22   filling that role here on the podcast [TS]

00:17:23   asked the assembled get a group of house what 2015 issue check things are we most [TS]

00:17:33   thankful for that have to be this year they could be like a three or four year [TS]

00:17:36   old text you just discovered this year I don't need your framing is loose but [TS]

00:17:39   anyway what kind of things are we thankful for anything that is going [TS]

00:17:42   around in circles until we're all exhausted and don't have anything left [TS]

00:17:45   to be thankful for [TS]

00:17:47   ok I'm a list of real I really was trying not to invoke the ghost like well [TS]

00:17:57   not the most thankful for this but it's probably round 945 actually have 50 [TS]

00:18:02   number five [TS]

00:18:04   very clear number one alright alright I'll market seems like he's ready to go [TS]

00:18:08   first so yeah I did not do my homework on this I thought about it like 10 [TS]

00:18:12   minutes about half an hour ago you could have markers doing more homework than I [TS]

00:18:15   am something is seriously broke three days notice I know I just can't go ahead [TS]

00:18:22   Marco well Mike my clear number one I thought it immediately when you said [TS]

00:18:26   this and there is no contest and DNS responder section number one so so for [TS]

00:18:35   the if anybody doesn't get the joke this is the the old version of the old [TS]

00:18:40   version of discovery D which is the system diamond that's responsible on [TS]

00:18:46   Macs and iOS devices for network name lookup finding Bonjour devices etc or [TS]

00:18:52   whatever it was called you know that's the news because you write anyway so so [TS]

00:18:59   it's it's very much responsible for like Macs and Apple devices finding other [TS]

00:19:03   servers and devices on the network and coordinating things with them so for [TS]

00:19:07   things like file-sharing probably involved in things like airdrop [TS]

00:19:10   definitely no network shares Apple TV kind of stuff airplay and discover ed [TS]

00:19:16   was the new version of this the rewrite of this ship with yosemite and with iOS [TS]

00:19:22   ate it was so buggy and caused so many problems for so many people you know if [TS]

00:19:28   if if during the era of yosemite I was eight if you if you ever had things like [TS]

00:19:33   other matching your network disappear and just not be visible [TS]

00:19:37   finder for browsing or for sharing or if you had things like you have the [TS]

00:19:41   computer name with a number after it like you know tips computers and it's [TS]

00:19:46   like what and where it and some reason to believe that some of that that was [TS]

00:19:50   the kind of problems with this but it caused so many other problems that some [TS]

00:19:55   people just got lucky like the HDMI CEC unicorn than just never had it I hit all [TS]

00:20:00   of these problems you have problems like you know certain like network printers [TS]

00:20:05   that had greater faces with frequently fail and just never be connectable [TS]

00:20:10   anymore [TS]

00:20:11   airplay would fail constantly airdrop would fail constantly so many problems [TS]

00:20:15   with with various network and inter inter Mac inter island communication [TS]

00:20:21   things and this is honestly this is a major driver behind my well circulated [TS]

00:20:25   peace applesauce the function of high ground from last winter because it it [TS]

00:20:30   shipped with your assembly and iOS in the fall of 2014 and it took until what [TS]

00:20:38   summertime something that before they issued an update that reverted back to [TS]

00:20:43   the old server discovery d back in the old one and DNS responder which just fix [TS]

00:20:48   all the problems and so it it was a good six months as some like that of using [TS]

00:20:52   this and the number of problems I encountered for the six months just made [TS]

00:20:57   me question everything about Apple just like how could they possibly have let [TS]

00:21:00   this go for so long [TS]

00:21:01   ship this and it was making all the stuff that makes Apple devices usually [TS]

00:21:05   pleasant it like so much it was crumbling or was leased unreliable for [TS]

00:21:10   me and when when they went back to MDS responder massive amount of these [TS]

00:21:16   problems just disappeared immediately for me and so now I can do things like [TS]

00:21:20   browse the iTunes share from the Apple TV and watch movies that are on my home [TS]

00:21:26   server on the Apple TV and stuff like that I can reliably connect to the Mac [TS]

00:21:30   Mini deserve this lifestyle I can reliably connect computer and share [TS]

00:21:33   files my can print it works every time like this is stuff that used to work [TS]

00:21:38   very reliably didn't for like six months and now does again so number one by far [TS]

00:21:44   from me is the return of Mtns responder the number one thing [TS]

00:21:48   is really just a sly way to complain about something no I you know i i wanted [TS]

00:21:55   you know I run an update article when you know once I was pretty sure that [TS]

00:21:58   this would fix everything and I really want to be clear that it was really bad [TS]

00:22:02   before and also I'm really happy now because now they have fix that massive [TS]

00:22:08   class problems and Apple stuff has all sorts of other problems still and you [TS]

00:22:12   know I'm sure we will spend we will spare no moment talking about those but [TS]

00:22:17   that really did fix a ton of them that I was having and I and it it says a lot of [TS]

00:22:23   an apple that they were you know that was a big mistake to ship that and to [TS]

00:22:26   stick with it for so long but it does say a lot about Apple that rather than [TS]

00:22:30   just like double down that in just like try to crank through and figure out all [TS]

00:22:34   the problems they said no we go back like I don't think they've really done [TS]

00:22:38   that very often and I can't even imagine what had to go on inside the company to [TS]

00:22:43   to convince you ever need to be convinced to roll back to abandon this [TS]

00:22:46   whole rewrite of this thing to roll back to the previous version but I'm really [TS]

00:22:51   glad I did because it really did fix a massive number of problems I was having [TS]

00:22:54   as I mentioned in this originally happened and DNS responder had a [TS]

00:22:59   terrible reputation in nearly a year is about 10 because it was the process that [TS]

00:23:04   it was always hanging in making stuff not work on your computer [TS]

00:23:07   all I kinda like basic functionality of connecting to server isn't loading web [TS]

00:23:11   pages the solid value to kill him responders home runs constantly crashing [TS]

00:23:15   and eventually got to the point where I guess it was stable but their prime [TS]

00:23:20   motivator plays it because it was old and crusty and never really work right [TS]

00:23:23   and they had run out most of the bugs but it was still probably like not easy [TS]

00:23:27   to change or add features to like you know handoff where the hell I don't even [TS]

00:23:31   know if that was what what their motivation for discovery to you but it [TS]

00:23:34   was but I was that every time they've gone and replaced some part of the [TS]

00:23:37   system with some newer thing that something you have to do that you just [TS]

00:23:41   gotta not screwed up like the the idea behind the effort was good execution was [TS]

00:23:47   bad so I really hope that if not discovery did something else comes back [TS]

00:23:50   because [TS]

00:23:51   it's not like they're replacing these things for their health their visit [TS]

00:23:54   motivation behind it as they just botched execution it will also show [TS]

00:23:58   notes to our friend of the show Craig Hockenberry who talked about this a [TS]

00:24:03   little bit strong language is preggers little perturbed but it's really good [TS]

00:24:06   writeup as to what went wrong in with their discovery and why right shall I go [TS]

00:24:12   next on would you prefer to go now europe is alright because I didn't have [TS]

00:24:17   a lot of time to third didn't spend a lot of time thinking about this my my [TS]

00:24:20   selection has my entire discovered here and you know the first thing I'm [TS]

00:24:26   thankful for which I'm really really excited about is actually live photos I [TS]

00:24:31   really really really enjoy life photos that you can make an argument that it's [TS]

00:24:35   gimmicky and maybe it is and maybe in a few years I think it's silly but sitting [TS]

00:24:40   here now I love life photos being able to have a little bit of context around [TS]

00:24:44   what's happening especially when you have a really young child in the house [TS]

00:24:48   is really really awesome and there's been a couple of life photos that I've [TS]

00:24:53   gotten just by pure happenstance that have been really awesome like once I [TS]

00:24:57   took a picture Declan when we were out to eat and and he decided to make this [TS]

00:25:02   like just mammoth Eon right as I taking the pictures so you can see this like [TS]

00:25:07   huge yawn as he's as he's eating at this restaurant and it it sounds silly [TS]

00:25:12   describing it but it was just the funniest lie photo and I don't know that [TS]

00:25:15   I I don't know that I would have captured that moment had it not been for [TS]

00:25:20   the fact that what I thought was the picture was actually a very very short [TS]

00:25:25   movie and so I love live photos I the only thing I don't like about life [TS]

00:25:30   photos now it makes me question whether or not I want to use my big semi fancy [TS]

00:25:33   camera or my i phone to take pictures and generally speaking I do you reach [TS]

00:25:37   for the big camera but it doesn't make me feel guilty anymore if I don't have [TS]

00:25:43   the big camera handy when trying to capture shot because I love having my [TS]

00:25:46   context they have burst mode on your big fancy camera I do when I never ever ever [TS]

00:25:50   use it though [TS]

00:25:51   blast away make your own live pictures and maybe that's one way of looking at [TS]

00:25:55   it but I very rarely shooting burst mode and the handful times I've done it [TS]

00:26:00   it has come out pretty well but then I'd have to post-process it turned into a [TS]

00:26:04   movie and blah blah blah not to say that this is egregious but it's it's it's [TS]

00:26:08   pretty magical just whipping out the thing that the phone that's in your [TS]

00:26:13   pocket and snapping a picture and having that little bit of context behind it I [TS]

00:26:17   just really really love it kind of in that vein I I'd like to this anomalous [TS]

00:26:22   sorry John is par for the course [TS]

00:26:24   yes yes it exactly right like to add to that just how incredibly good the video [TS]

00:26:29   is from the iPhone's success success + [TS]

00:26:31   this year I finally after seven years of created my main good camera from a Canon [TS]

00:26:37   5d mark two to the Sony a seven are too and it's a fantastic hammer in every way [TS]

00:26:42   and I love this thing I I love the pictures I get out of the Sony it's [TS]

00:26:46   incredible it is incredibly expensive too so it's not for everybody but when [TS]

00:26:50   you buy a camera every seven years it's it's it can be justifiable but anyway [TS]

00:26:55   love love this camera and it shoots for k video and it's one of the it's one of [TS]

00:27:00   the relatively few cameras on the market for a video there's they're getting [TS]

00:27:05   warmer numerous but they're still relatively few in number but the [TS]

00:27:09   iPhone's success came out and the success also shoots for k video and [TS]

00:27:13   having shot now with both of them a reasonable amount the difference between [TS]

00:27:18   them is not that big like here here's a scammer that's being hailed as one of [TS]

00:27:23   the best cameras overall ever made and one of the best camera that can shoot [TS]

00:27:27   for K and the camera that's an every iPhone of the current generation shoots [TS]

00:27:34   for k video that to my as a casual observer is almost just as good [TS]

00:27:40   equality you get out of this out of the iPhone 4 came granted it isn't 60 frames [TS]

00:27:45   per second it's only 30 I don't have it I don't know what shoots for K sixty for [TS]

00:27:49   his second but it's never seen anything that offered that it seems like for k [TS]

00:27:53   everywhere these days basically 30 but if you're going to deal with the lower [TS]

00:27:56   frame rate it looks incredible just to have that resolution it really does look [TS]

00:28:01   like a moving photo it's just it looks like a real life photo [TS]

00:28:05   and live photos are great like you know they're they're great for when he didn't [TS]

00:28:09   intend to take a video but when you do intend to take a video the quality you [TS]

00:28:13   can get out of the iPhone camera in for k mode is just ridiculously good and for [TS]

00:28:19   people like us who have kids and get all sentimental about how how Peter kids are [TS]

00:28:23   it is just stunning how how much this captures life in the way it looks in [TS]

00:28:29   real life and I'm very very glad to have this because you know most [TS]

00:28:34   almost every parent at some point says you know I really wish I shot more video [TS]

00:28:37   I really really with a shot more photos and and i've been that way for video [TS]

00:28:41   certainly but you know we should plenty of photos but we don't shoot another [TS]

00:28:44   video yeah I'm the same way I reflect and look back on on the pictures and [TS]

00:28:50   video of taken in the last year just over a year old now and I couldn't agree [TS]

00:28:55   more that I've taken a lot of really great pictures I'm really proud of the [TS]

00:28:58   pictures I've taken but I haven't shot near enough video and and I think that [TS]

00:29:02   part of the problem is is that it's not often especially early in life like [TS]

00:29:07   super early in life that that I can capture something that's quote-unquote [TS]

00:29:11   remarkable as it's happening and I think that that's the wrong attitude to have [TS]

00:29:15   and I should be better about just capturing everyday life because it'll be [TS]

00:29:18   interesting to look at maybe not know year five years maybe in ten or twenty [TS]

00:29:22   years and so I'm trying to train myself to to start taking video of things that [TS]

00:29:27   seemed really boring and like you were saying Marco I I really really like that [TS]

00:29:33   this camera that's in my pocket always takes forte video which is kind of it's [TS]

00:29:41   kind of an insurance policy right you know there will eventually be video that [TS]

00:29:44   is crisper than forte but sitting here in 2015 that's the case gonna look [TS]

00:29:50   pretty good for a while I think in and so I'm really happy that I'm getting [TS]

00:29:53   really high resolution video out of the camera I am most likely to have on me [TS]

00:29:57   always yeah and it really does not look like it like an inferior quality camera [TS]

00:30:03   when you're shooting for k with the iPhone it does not seem inferior quality [TS]

00:30:07   at all in fact like you know compared to my liking a quote real and it is not a [TS]

00:30:11   dedicated video camera but a lot of people use these things for video the [TS]

00:30:14   things like the audio actually better the audio is way better on the [TS]

00:30:18   iPhone the autofocus is way better on the iPhone it shouldn't be there's no [TS]

00:30:22   reason why it should be hardware wise the Sony cases but in so many ways but [TS]

00:30:25   the iPhone just has like really nice automatic default and has really good [TS]

00:30:29   audio processing such that you with with no effort you get pretty great video out [TS]

00:30:35   of the iPhone compared to this you know professional camera it's amazing how [TS]

00:30:40   good it is so yeah I'm very thankful for how good the success is shooting video [TS]

00:30:46   because it is making me shoot more video and 8044 parenting nostalgia purposes [TS]

00:30:51   that is just awesome don't forget to take videos of your kids screaming and [TS]

00:30:55   crying because it's my kids when they're smiling or happy take pictures of their [TS]

00:31:00   crying and take video so they can hear the noise that they made because they [TS]

00:31:03   don't believe you when you try to describe it and sometimes it's nice to [TS]

00:31:06   look back when you're far distant from and I remember that terrible screeching [TS]

00:31:10   that didn't leave our house [TS]

00:31:12   declan's smiling anyway at some point has to be screaming crying capture that [TS]

00:31:17   yeah yeah we tried to occasionally bring that up because they just before the [TS]

00:31:21   show we were talking we when we were at my parents this past weekend we did like [TS]

00:31:27   a literally five or ten minute photo shoot with them where they took a bunch [TS]

00:31:31   of pictures of the three of us that would maybe they will may be used for [TS]

00:31:33   Christmas card this year and I think the pictures look good but declan's kind of [TS]

00:31:39   like nonplussed about the whole thing and you know oftentimes he's pretty [TS]

00:31:43   easily it's pretty easy to make him pretty happy and in these he's kinda [TS]

00:31:47   like whatever man and I were discussing well you know that is a better [TS]

00:31:51   representation of real life because he's usually a fairly chipper kid but he's [TS]

00:31:55   not always know super excited about everything and so we were debating and [TS]

00:31:59   didn't really reach a conclusion before before I came into record you know maybe [TS]

00:32:03   we should just use one of those and and that's okay and so I'm trying to do [TS]

00:32:07   better about capturing the annoyed Declan in the upset as time goes on [TS]

00:32:14   jonathan is your turn alright well you might think since I suggested this [TS]

00:32:18   exercise that I have some like really clever interesting [TS]

00:32:21   things I know this but i dont lose your job I'm just the idea so my first one [TS]

00:32:28   might be a surprise but I don't think so [TS]

00:32:31   based on what I've talked about it's it's it's kinda like Marquez is like a [TS]

00:32:34   qualified recommendation what is the first thing I thought of the first thing [TS]

00:32:37   I'm thankful for this year is photos Apple's photo thing where they finally [TS]

00:32:42   gave away that had access to all your photos everywhere and to put all your [TS]

00:32:46   photos up in the cloud and charger money to the storage but the prices are not so [TS]

00:32:50   bad I've had a lot of weird issues with it but I have to say all the bugs and [TS]

00:32:56   stuff that I've encountered so far have been delays not roadblocks like it's [TS]

00:33:00   done weird things that's been spooky and it's been weird but always eventually at [TS]

00:33:04   the end of it I come out the other side with a far as I'm aware fully [TS]

00:33:08   functioning and working library that is all synced up and is in the clouds [TS]

00:33:12   everywhere and is available on the phones and now on my Mac photos actually [TS]

00:33:16   performs an acceptable manner most of the time still ignores my spacebar about [TS]

00:33:20   50% of the time when I had it but anyway it's got a long way to go but I like the [TS]

00:33:24   fact that is a fairly new program that already been updated and the update has [TS]

00:33:28   added minor features and performance and I'm just glad that Apple finally has [TS]

00:33:34   gotten their photo library online and on to their servers and you know not [TS]

00:33:40   stranded on my machine they still have a long way to go when it comes to dealing [TS]

00:33:45   with families and multiple for libraries but this possible things I'm thankful [TS]

00:33:48   for complaints policy so this really does get the John Siracusa seal of [TS]

00:33:54   approval [TS]

00:33:55   well it's just because it's so much better than i photo like and you know [TS]

00:33:59   people who use our services like they use Google or you know Amazon's cloud [TS]

00:34:03   storage or whatever the saying this is the only solution for in fact it's [TS]

00:34:06   probably not even the best solution for everything that I've heard Google [TS]

00:34:09   storage solution seems to be much more reliable more features and be really [TS]

00:34:13   cool I just we've always had our photos in iPhoto and so photos is the obvious [TS]

00:34:18   and only you know transition to stay in the Apple TV Apple ecosystem and [TS]

00:34:24   iPhoto like towards the end of its life was really terrible but in the beginning [TS]

00:34:28   and middle it was pretty good especially when I library with smaller so I'm glad [TS]

00:34:33   that Apple's continue to develop a program that essentially did import my [TS]

00:34:36   iPhoto library in the same way to coalesce my ratings down into favorite [TS]

00:34:40   ok with that [TS]

00:34:42   yeah so like I still have any complaints about it but it's just so long for them [TS]

00:34:47   to do the obvious thing we all talked about ever picks in Merced when it went [TS]

00:34:52   out of business and now I'm getting all their pictures and make it so that they [TS]

00:34:58   do not all be on the device but you have access to them everywhere [TS]

00:35:01   good idea Apple have been very trigger shy on photos pretty worried about user [TS]

00:35:08   and picture life which I really really like and I been afraid to really get [TS]

00:35:15   into photos just because it's always felt like I was I didn't want to trust [TS]

00:35:21   apple with this because I don't want to go bad even though I have backups like I [TS]

00:35:24   picture life now have two or three copies locally but it just scared me but [TS]

00:35:28   to hear that it pretty much has a chance to seal of approval I might change my [TS]

00:35:31   tune but you shouldn't though I always say is it's like online backup you just [TS]

00:35:35   have to have you should everyone should be doing this if you have your photo [TS]

00:35:38   library there should be some place that you uploaded to the picture life it's [TS]

00:35:42   Google authority without those things where ever it is the whole point should [TS]

00:35:45   be that worst-case scenario you should still have online backup and you still [TS]

00:35:50   have local backup you still have local clones but I like having like yet [TS]

00:35:54   another thing that it actually dedicated to photos that despite all those things [TS]

00:35:58   those described by using back later or you know time machine or super duper [TS]

00:36:03   clones you know you're backing up over your network to whatever is on top of [TS]

00:36:08   that have another thing that says oh and by the way every time you take a picture [TS]

00:36:12   with your phone gets uploaded to the cloud thing and then get downloaded onto [TS]

00:36:15   your Mac and every time you import photos from the sdcard onto gets [TS]

00:36:18   uploaded to the cloud and download on your phone [TS]

00:36:21   and you don't have to have all your whores everywhere but on a particular [TS]

00:36:24   Mac you can say please download it for is everywhere the one with the big hard [TS]

00:36:27   drive having that extra system on top of all your backups just makes me feel [TS]

00:36:31   better about pictures so it doesn't really matter if it's photos a picture [TS]

00:36:34   of life or you go back in time you've ever picks or other products you might [TS]

00:36:39   discuss later part of the show if we don't go long on this thanksgiving stuff [TS]

00:36:43   yeah I'm not specifically endorsing photos I'm endorsing the idea of Apple [TS]

00:36:48   doing the obvious thing for photo services and it not being terrible yeah [TS]

00:36:53   and you know and we will we have been talking and many people been talking [TS]

00:36:56   before they announce this like their other various photo solutions they like [TS]

00:37:00   photostream before this kind of like a half solution and we we've been calling [TS]

00:37:05   them to do something like this forever but no one thought they actually would [TS]

00:37:09   and then not only did they do it but it was good even free version 1.0 it wasn't [TS]

00:37:15   perfect but it was pretty good and end the imperfections are only limited [TS]

00:37:20   relate to the front and app the actual back in the storage in the sinking [TS]

00:37:24   engine in my experience and I think I think most experienced worked solidly [TS]

00:37:30   from day one there was always like I said there was there is bugs but like as [TS]

00:37:35   long as they're not intractable a lot of times early on people like that it had a [TS]

00:37:39   bunch of black squares or am i thinkI feeli get that thinks that history [TS]

00:37:42   upload everything like and it's mistaken about that or all sorts of problems [TS]

00:37:46   we're either operations of taking a long time there are a couple of like crashing [TS]

00:37:51   in the middle of the import of whatever but the bottom line is if you just kept [TS]

00:37:55   trying eventually it reached a point where it's settled down which is not [TS]

00:37:58   true of for example the time machine and spotlight last time but never settle [TS]

00:38:03   down vote the best you can say about viruses sometimes it's geared up 1.0 had [TS]

00:38:07   weird bugs but in my personal experience is I never had the new can pay right [TS]

00:38:12   some people did so you know obviously it's not that it's it's both of my [TS]

00:38:17   personal experiences even when it was weird just eventually powered through [TS]

00:38:21   with me not doing anything other than [TS]

00:38:23   and maybe repeatedly trying and settles into a state now where would I take a [TS]

00:38:28   photo on my wife takes August the library's her as i dont wanna get into [TS]

00:38:31   this anyway on the phone and then go to the Mac eventually the picture shows up [TS]

00:38:36   and that's all I ask for again because he liked to that they really the Photos [TS]

00:38:42   app is very very good and it was very good since 1.0 and it's only gotten [TS]

00:38:47   better with 1.1 and I still do all my editing first for a photoshoot with with [TS]

00:38:53   the big hammer I still do anything first and Lightroom and then I kinda like pick [TS]

00:38:58   and pick and editing Lightroom and then export as for quality JPEG into photos [TS]

00:39:03   because I i dont care for photos editing tools too much but for iPhone shot [TS]

00:39:08   pictures to find and on the iPhone like having had bility and and you know my my [TS]

00:39:14   fancy pictures once I do like a first pass at it with Lightroom I'm probably [TS]

00:39:19   never gonna talk soon after that you know it's just do their export into the [TS]

00:39:23   library that's faster is it doesn't have the giant rock how to deal with and it's [TS]

00:39:27   nice it really is nice I i I have no I have no regrets about photo library [TS]

00:39:32   second spots this week is automatic on AXA connected car adapter that plugs [TS]

00:39:38   into your car's diagnostic port pairs with your phone and agreed to there were [TS]

00:39:41   20 apps to do a better driving experience go to automatic com slash ATP [TS]

00:39:46   see for yourself in a 20% off now automatic and help you in several ways [TS]

00:39:51   first of all basic stuff if you have a check engine error in your car engine [TS]

00:39:55   ECU air automatic can tell you through the phone [TS]

00:39:59   exactly what the area is and in many cases let you clear the arafat something [TS]

00:40:03   temporary like your gas cap was open it has all the data coming in from your car [TS]

00:40:06   I can tell you things like how efficiently you're driving if you want [TS]

00:40:09   to hit certain goals can alert you if you like hitting the brakes too hard hit [TS]

00:40:12   the gas too hard it can also tell you a lot of your trips if you want to track [TS]

00:40:16   that he can do things like have expense reports we're driving you can just see [TS]

00:40:20   where you go to most if you want it can keep your party locations you never lose [TS]

00:40:24   your car in a parking lot if you have an accident and it detects that the port [TS]

00:40:28   you can even call emergency services for you if you are unable to [TS]

00:40:31   it can really do quite a bit now they also have an app store with automatic [TS]

00:40:35   Automattic com slash apps you can see over 20 amp so far more being added all [TS]

00:40:39   the time you can use your car's data in all kinds of different ways so for [TS]

00:40:43   example they have a trigger with ifttt if this thing that you can build recipes [TS]

00:40:48   for things like turning my nest thermostat when I'm close to home [TS]

00:40:52   also have apps for things like concur and fresh books for invoices and expense [TS]

00:40:57   reports people watch integration license plus if you have a teenager who is [TS]

00:41:02   learning how to drive and you wanna can attract the driving and make sure that [TS]

00:41:05   they are you driving in a scene com safe way you can do that with this there's [TS]

00:41:10   also the things you can do with the automatic device and of course [TS]

00:41:15   developers check this out because you can do a lot here too they have a whole [TS]

00:41:18   epi using OAuth to REST API check it out very very easy to use now [TS]

00:41:23   automatic is normally a hundred bucks and there's no subscription fees [TS]

00:41:26   there's no monthly fee or anything you just pay that one price up front and [TS]

00:41:31   then that's it you don't have to pay for the service every month so normally this [TS]

00:41:33   press front is a hundred bucks they have a link if you go to a match.com / ATP [TS]

00:41:38   you get 20% off so it just 80 bucks and again [TS]

00:41:41   80 bucks up front one time and that's it no recurring costs that includes free [TS]

00:41:45   shipping in two business days and a 45 day risk-free return policy [TS]

00:41:50   check it out and automatic home / ATP thanks a lot [TS]

00:41:54   alright Marco do you want to go again or do you want to try to reverse the order [TS]

00:41:58   here just make your next ok my number two after my only other and I gotta have [TS]

00:42:07   a 1.2 1.3 my next one on the list john is the continued growth of podcasting I [TS]

00:42:19   i have made I have really focused my career easily on podcasting on a number [TS]

00:42:23   of fronts [TS]

00:42:24   you know we do this podcast I have the pocket of my wife top for an epochal [TS]

00:42:29   underscore David Smith an under the radar and of course I make a podcast app [TS]

00:42:33   called overcast I i really busy thanks now I'm really I'm just very thankful [TS]

00:42:39   that this industry continues to not only exist and be healthy but to thrive and [TS]

00:42:44   grow I really I love podcasting I i love it as a listener I love it as a producer [TS]

00:42:51   I love it as a programmer it is great there's tons of opportunity as a [TS]

00:42:55   programmer at as a listener I podcasters in my life I'm I'm an epochal center for [TS]

00:43:00   a long before I was really involved in them and I guess I gotta love listen to [TS]

00:43:05   podcasts I don't have to explain it to most people think this probably and also [TS]

00:43:09   as a podcaster I love the act of podcasting and I was I was kinda had [TS]

00:43:14   this tweet tweet storming of the call it when he just too much money I think [TS]

00:43:19   that's it you got it yeah it so I i treat all over the place earlier today [TS]

00:43:23   about I been holding back a lot from blocking recently because the [TS]

00:43:30   expectations and their reactions that you get out of blogging for me have [TS]

00:43:34   become just really negative I whenever I've blogged and anything substantial [TS]

00:43:39   recently I have often regretted it afterwards because the the the amount [TS]

00:43:44   and the type of attention that results from it is is not good for me it's it's [TS]

00:43:50   not pleasant it's it's not satisfying it actually just feel like a burden and it [TS]

00:43:55   resulted in a lot of misunderstanding a lot of attention a lot of flames and a [TS]

00:44:01   lot of sensationalism that that I just do not want blocking also takes a long [TS]

00:44:06   time no writing as difficult as it if you don't write you might I realize but [TS]

00:44:11   writing is really quite difficult and time-consuming especially if you're [TS]

00:44:14   trying to do it well it's very very hard to really do well if I wanted to do [TS]

00:44:20   things like if I wanted to write this as a blog post of just like hearing i'm [TS]

00:44:23   talking about how great podcasting as compared to blogging this would take me [TS]

00:44:27   probably four hours to write a blog post and it wouldn't say it is when I can in [TS]

00:44:34   a podcast I can basically with no preparation spew out random thoughts [TS]

00:44:39   like this for about four minutes and have it all covered and have expressed [TS]

00:44:44   pretty much all the same ideas [TS]

00:44:46   possibly even better in in a more informal way that [TS]

00:44:50   you people listening to this can hear me as a human being you know me from the [TS]

00:44:55   context of the rest of the show and for any other shows you listen to the live [TS]

00:44:57   in on you can give me the benefit of the doubt because you you have some sense of [TS]

00:45:01   my personality from this and it just it just a much more humane medium so with [TS]

00:45:07   podcasting I don't get many flames if I hardly ever get any kind of negativity [TS]

00:45:11   about things I say in a podcast unable to get out way more ideas per unit of [TS]

00:45:17   time effort put into it and it's it just feels better it's hard to explain in in [TS]

00:45:24   in full how how it feels but i just think for me it is right now more [TS]

00:45:30   natural communication floor mandame and a safer one because I'm kind of burnt [TS]

00:45:35   out on the negativity to make it whenever I write anything you know this [TS]

00:45:38   isn't to say I'm going to stop writing but I've certainly dramatically slowed [TS]

00:45:41   down and it's no coincidence as I do more podcasts I write less because I [TS]

00:45:46   just find podcasting works better for me right now and at this point in my life [TS]

00:45:50   yeah I agree I've really been phenomenally lucky to have been a part [TS]

00:45:56   of neutral love this show [TS]

00:45:58   analog my other show unreal a family that my curly good job casey you did [TS]

00:46:03   apply finally we keep setting up for the shot but it's both of you with a sports [TS]

00:46:11   metaphor I'm very proud of you both anyway so and I've been very thankful to [TS]

00:46:15   be a part of this and in to be able to participate in the end you know as we've [TS]

00:46:19   discussed some of the show and i've discussed quite a bit on an analog I I [TS]

00:46:24   have always felt some modicum of guilt for kind of having just found my way on [TS]

00:46:29   here by accident but but but no other communities be really good to me and [TS]

00:46:36   it's been a really phenomenal been phenomenally lucky to be a part of this [TS]

00:46:40   and in a part of the community that we are in maybe next year we can finally [TS]

00:46:45   convince you that like you didn't you aren't just like here accidentally like [TS]

00:46:48   you are a host of the show you are one of three host of the show you are not [TS]

00:46:53   just some guy who is stuck in a chair that I sit there while we thought [TS]

00:46:57   yea time scale perhaps I'll believe that but but anyway I can hear John rolling [TS]

00:47:03   his eyes right now we're all here accidentally is what I was thinking but [TS]

00:47:10   now but it's it's been a really phenomenal and and I couldn't i couldn't [TS]

00:47:14   be more thankful I was gonna make this job and really cheesy way but im gonna [TS]

00:47:17   say it genuinely I couldn't be more thankful to be doing it with you to find [TS]

00:47:21   gentleman and and and I'm really am so unbelievably proud of the work we've [TS]

00:47:26   done here and unbelievably thankful that it's gone on as long as it happened and [TS]

00:47:31   that any of you listening to this right now have have been stuck around in have [TS]

00:47:36   chosen as long as you have so thank you to you guys and to everyone listening [TS]

00:47:41   because this has been really phenomenal I think I'd write more if I didn't have [TS]

00:47:45   a job [TS]

00:47:47   amen brother Marcus Wright like you know if you podcast more like you can get a [TS]

00:47:53   lot of ideas out but you would otherwise have to to write up in the pockets as I [TS]

00:47:57   got my system you feel like you did you have something you just need to express [TS]

00:48:00   right but mainly for me I feel like it's just not enough hours in the day and [TS]

00:48:07   it's just so much more efficient to scramble for a couple minutes on a [TS]

00:48:11   podcast you feel like well got that out of my system when it would take longer [TS]

00:48:15   to write it in but I feel like if I had it in have to go to work every day I [TS]

00:48:21   have all the showers and I probably would do the thing that Marcos and [TS]

00:48:24   occasionally and so you know less so now that I might anything anymore [TS]

00:48:28   practically but like where you either talk about something on a podcast and [TS]

00:48:32   inspires you to write it up or you write something on your blog and that inspires [TS]

00:48:36   you to talk about on the podcast that that's energy I still enjoy I just never [TS]

00:48:40   have time for the part you write anything [TS]

00:48:45   fair enough as it is I make it my turn I take it does alright so I'd actually [TS]

00:48:51   this is a little bit of a cop out but I have other options as well I actually AM [TS]

00:48:55   super thankful for my big semi fancy camera I have an Olympus om-d cm10 which [TS]

00:49:02   is a terrible name it is a Micro Four Thirds camera and for a long time [TS]

00:49:06   especially after Marco and tippen and Aaron I got reacquainted after mark when [TS]

00:49:12   I lost touch for a long time I've always been jealous of what I'm looking for but [TS]

00:49:18   I've always been intrigued by really nice camera equipment in and be a novel [TS]

00:49:24   ways fancied myself like interested in photography but I wouldn't say I've ever [TS]

00:49:28   been particularly great at it but right before Dec was born we finally bought [TS]

00:49:32   this Micro Four Thirds camera which was a fair bit of money I mean it was [TS]

00:49:37   something like $15 for the camera and a couple under the body in a couple of [TS]

00:49:41   lenses and I wasn't sure if it was really worth it [TS]

00:49:44   and Aaron wasn't sure feels really worth it because you we had I think 6 and [TS]

00:49:48   iPhone 6 at the time which take it takes and took really great pictures but I am [TS]

00:49:54   so thankful for big digital cameras still being a thing because having a [TS]

00:50:01   camera with with glass that's bigger than a finger tip just makes for some [TS]

00:50:08   incredible pictures and it's been really it's been really awesome to see some of [TS]

00:50:13   the pictures I've been able to capture of not only Declan but my whole family [TS]

00:50:17   and extended family through this camera that really in the grand scheme of [TS]

00:50:20   things is not that terribly much money and so I'm extraordinarily thankful that [TS]

00:50:24   it exists and I'm extra extraordinarily thankful that I think that that i've [TS]

00:50:30   i've been able to that I bought one in there have been able to make some decent [TS]

00:50:34   pictures come out of this camera and so digital photography in general not just [TS]

00:50:39   live photos that that's yeah I'm still jealous of all your nice cameras but i [TS]

00:50:45   feel like im going two miles total library was gathering photos for holiday [TS]

00:50:51   things as you do and also pleased with the performance of prison [TS]

00:50:55   back enjoying the fact that I can grow and do stuff although I put an item in [TS]

00:51:00   the notes about my latest photo complaints they don't want to do that [TS]

00:51:05   for the last thing but to sit next week yeah but like as a swell backwards in [TS]

00:51:13   time towards like my oldest child but the baby you do see the quality of the [TS]

00:51:19   pictures go down I think it's going to be less pronounced for Declan because I [TS]

00:51:24   think like you know the the curves start it [TS]

00:51:27   level off a little bit because there's sort of the limit of the human visual [TS]

00:51:31   system and what feature sizes you can resolve a typical distances and blah [TS]

00:51:35   blah blah but we got our very first digital camera ever before my son was [TS]

00:51:42   born my first child and was not very good quality early days and you can [TS]

00:51:48   really see it so it's kind of a shame I can't go back in time with the fans are [TS]

00:51:52   Cameron I think about maybe I'm thinking the same thing now with the current [TS]

00:51:54   because I'm taking my kid with my camera that does not cost as much as a good [TS]

00:51:59   used car they're fine they're good but I can tell the difference between my [TS]

00:52:05   camera and a fancy camera like it's impossible not to be able to tell the [TS]

00:52:09   difference especially if if there is not a hundred percent Blazing Sun light on a [TS]

00:52:13   clear day then all of a sudden I can tell the difference so I'm very often do [TS]

00:52:17   consider buying fancy camera and maybe someday will but for now I'm limping [TS]

00:52:22   along with my so a superzoom cameras in my phone so that's not that bad I'm [TS]

00:52:28   trying to figure out what used car that's pretty good you could get for [TS]

00:52:31   $1,500 on the corner of course of course I John what else thankful for my next [TS]

00:52:41   item on the list is probably not surprising boring to everybody who is [TS]

00:52:45   tech nerd including both of you but I put them in this tiny babies that bill [TS]

00:52:49   like this was not the summer of George this was the year of big SSDs in my [TS]

00:52:54   house as he's been around forever to get it is the life of Bob time I am [TS]

00:53:00   I'm not interested in talking put all my stuff even fusion drive came out I think [TS]

00:53:04   was a really great idea and from all accounts is work really well Mike but [TS]

00:53:08   for me I should hold out for all my crap honesty remember on podcast many years [TS]

00:53:13   ago was this podcast was it some other one I was like hold out for one terabyte [TS]

00:53:18   SSD and I go good luck there's gonna be so expensive you can get one today but [TS]

00:53:21   it's like thousands of dollars I can be cheap but you know waiting awhile why [TS]

00:53:25   did I wait to really long time and eventually one terabyte SSDs became less [TS]

00:53:31   than ridiculously expensive still very expensive but as soon as they came down [TS]

00:53:35   in price looks like three the prices you know 500 $600 I got one for him and made [TS]

00:53:42   a big difference as you would imagine just doing this is the big thing for me [TS]

00:53:46   is that they are big that I can fit all of my stuff and the size of all my stuff [TS]

00:53:52   has changed a lot over the years and I like your is trying to keep the all my [TS]

00:53:58   stuff size somewhere within the bounds of economical hard drive size but [TS]

00:54:02   partners can exerting so big 21 terabyte terabytes retail but for a terabyte [TS]

00:54:06   spinning disk was like oh no I gotta make sure my stuff doesn't thoughtful [TS]

00:54:09   turns out my stuff has been growing more slowly and my stuff comfortably fits in [TS]

00:54:14   one terabyte snow avatar my guess is they want to go but the iMac is a [TS]

00:54:18   terabyte St and now finally the two main computer in the house are all of our [TS]

00:54:24   stuff on them and I'm very happy about it [TS]

00:54:27   yeah I held out a really long time before getting an SSD because the first [TS]

00:54:33   computer I had with an SSD was my old work computer which I got in the middle [TS]

00:54:39   of 2012 but was a late 2011 Santa Clara 15 inch MacBook Pro and I had always [TS]

00:54:46   thought as I often do with these things [TS]

00:54:50   shirts faster I'm sure it's great but it can't possibly make that much oh my god [TS]

00:54:55   it makes that much of a difference it it it's just night and day and because of [TS]

00:55:00   that I'm still rocking one of those identical computer that work one except [TS]

00:55:05   the platter hard drive as my personal computer [TS]

00:55:08   and I never touched the thing because it's just unusable because it has a [TS]

00:55:12   platter hard drive [TS]

00:55:13   get get yourself a nasty even if you get a little tiny one and you have to put [TS]

00:55:16   all your all your other data elsewhere just it makes a world of difference [TS]

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00:57:00   thanks a lot to bushel for sponsoring our show what's next for you so next to [TS]

00:57:05   me is slack interesting ok that's a good when I would have put that on there if I [TS]

00:57:10   had thought of it yeah I agree with that so first of all slackers really just [TS]

00:57:13   good at like you know as as a product slackers good it is like [TS]

00:57:18   when I first saw it I thought well that's just IRC [TS]

00:57:22   fancied up IRC and that's true it is just finished a piracy but it's really [TS]

00:57:27   good turns out by RCA is really nice feature is not that it's like fancied up [TS]

00:57:34   I received the key feature is that like it is a name brand company thing you can [TS]

00:57:39   get the slack app for the platform of your choice and it is slack our season I [TS]

00:57:43   guess you like the client just something I really know your client works just [TS]

00:57:48   type / something like this was like a client just to get slack and then you've [TS]

00:57:52   got it you have to worry about people figuring out all point and click an [TS]

00:57:56   unlimited amount of command-line silliness the NRC you know really it had [TS]

00:58:01   a lot of shortcomings compared to slacken not just the client thing but [TS]

00:58:04   just like the complexity of the the geeky roots of it it's and limitations [TS]

00:58:09   of it not being persistent on the class just it's not a IR si has a sports place [TS]

00:58:14   for sure but slacked us too and i think is by far the more friendly option of [TS]

00:58:19   the two and it also has way more features and it's pretty nice anyway so [TS]

00:58:23   I likes like a lot and I like that kind of lead to earlier I mentioned I was [TS]

00:58:29   kind of worn out from negativity that I've gotten from being so public online [TS]

00:58:34   slack allows me to have these small private groups of friends that things [TS]

00:58:40   that I would have previously posted to Twitter now a lot of those things are [TS]

00:58:44   going to slack and a lot of the conversations that I'm having a lot of [TS]

00:58:48   the Keeping Up with friends what they're doing a lot more of that is happening in [TS]

00:58:52   slack now then on Twitter for me and I think that's good because for so long we [TS]

00:58:58   had things on the web where we're like this the best communication method on [TS]

00:59:03   the web or so often public or semi-public Facebook where it's like [TS]

00:59:08   it's supposed to be private most of the time but sometimes you setting [TS]

00:59:11   everything public course from a default whatever it's nice to have something [TS]

00:59:15   that is private I do think there's a place for those things there's a balance [TS]

00:59:19   to be struck and it's you know just it's nice that we are we are willing to [TS]

00:59:24   explore that balance rather than just make everything public [TS]

00:59:28   and a driven on the entire internet and every way we communicate and so it's [TS]

00:59:33   nice having having slack for me has been a nice kind and gentle reprieve from [TS]

00:59:40   everything being in public because the fact is so many of my of my friends are [TS]

00:59:45   people who have met in this business people like you guys who work with who [TS]

00:59:50   who don't live near its like sit down and have lunch with you guys every day [TS]

00:59:55   you know I I work at home for myself you know i i had lunch with my wife and my [TS]

00:59:59   kids my dog the night my friend interaction or limited mostly to online [TS]

01:00:03   stuff so it's nice to have just like a kindly private safe place for that to [TS]

01:00:07   happen and now into psych provide that for me but from what I hear from a lot [TS]

01:00:12   of other people and provide that to lots of people it it doesn't just like a [TS]

01:00:16   desperate for Marco think like a lot of people you slack this way in small [TS]

01:00:20   groups with their friends and it's really great for that and i am just very [TS]

01:00:23   thankful if such a thing exists but is getting enough traction to be useful [TS]

01:00:28   the company of this is that as we record today slack was down for many people the [TS]

01:00:34   day to mention that but yeah doesn't matter this is done this is the first [TS]

01:00:38   time I've ever seen down to the honeymoon period before marcos and a big [TS]

01:00:42   roundabouts like being centralized thing controlled by a single company scurrying [TS]

01:00:46   all the clients and their API and pricing aw stock so enjoy it while I [TS]

01:00:52   know I'm being negative anyway I think everything that Marco said basically [TS]

01:00:56   like in the big continuum of between public in like I am as the the private [TS]

01:01:00   things like you know small group on Glee private message and public you have web [TS]

01:01:06   forums are comments or bulletin boards and later things like Twitter and stuff [TS]

01:01:10   like that and it's like as a nice middle-ground time to say no ground the [TS]

01:01:14   Google+ was going for but missed where it's not one to one like I am and it's [TS]

01:01:18   not in public or email that I is not in public like message boards or Twitter [TS]

01:01:23   it's in between and it's not the only downside of course is now they were all [TS]

01:01:27   we're all in a million different slacks because these in between things are sort [TS]

01:01:30   of self organizing groups of people around particular interest to [TS]

01:01:35   institutions or whatever and those circles overlap alot but we have to be [TS]

01:01:40   in all of them if you want to keep up with this offense that could prevent [TS]

01:01:42   that prevents that you're in three slacks that are that form is weird Venn [TS]

01:01:46   diagram sometimes I have trouble keeping track of what slack I said which is on [TS]

01:01:52   the same application that's one stupid single window working guys find more [TS]

01:01:59   windows more than one call me crazy but I lose track of where I said things in [TS]

01:02:08   which group of friends I said them to and who is on what page about what but I [TS]

01:02:13   think that's a good problem to have liked having this middle ground even [TS]

01:02:16   though that has meant one more place for me to check for things that have gone on [TS]

01:02:21   I am NOT a slack completionist so they don't have that problem but still I do [TS]

01:02:26   have to end its like to its credit gives you lots of really cool options for how [TS]

01:02:30   you want to be notified and about what [TS]

01:02:33   so sad that input on my list and now I'm the Marco stealing things from other [TS]

01:02:40   peoples this is a test I completely agree with black and and it doesn't [TS]

01:02:48   matter you know who your particular group of friends is or or whatever the [TS]

01:02:51   case maybe it's just having a group of people even be friends or family you can [TS]

01:02:56   communicate with often geographically [TS]

01:02:59   all over the place is just really fantastic and the thing that one of the [TS]

01:03:03   things I love about slack that that is in some ways ruined me for like iMessage [TS]

01:03:07   and other things is the rich text preview sort of you call them so if you [TS]

01:03:13   put a link to a tweet into a slack channel it will do its best to expand [TS]

01:03:18   that queen show you the contents of the tween maybe even a picture of those [TS]

01:03:21   media attached in oh my god I wish I could have that 44 I message that would [TS]

01:03:26   be so so useful and and I really love that peter it's such a silly thing that [TS]

01:03:30   makes a world of difference [TS]

01:03:32   yeah so it's my turn this is a weird one [TS]

01:03:35   I am super thankful for my lightning to HDMI adapter which he is a hard thing to [TS]

01:03:43   say but this past weekend as with many weekends in the fall [TS]

01:03:49   and I went to see the University of Virginia play football in his life who I [TS]

01:03:56   am actually a hokey which means I went to Virginia Tech we are big rivals just [TS]

01:03:59   go with the markup language stuff that cuts deep John so anyways we basically [TS]

01:04:12   we are big rival school so Marco this is like TIFF going to Michigan does it make [TS]

01:04:16   more sense to you yes that is the one sport rather than I am familiar with [TS]

01:04:20   simply because I grew up in Columbus so you can't you couldn't not know about [TS]

01:04:24   that one [TS]

01:04:25   funds that the correct answers actually Penn State but anyway the point is that [TS]

01:04:28   it just like OSU and pinch-hitter angles yet now Michigan and Michigan well know [TS]

01:04:38   you are right to say Michigan and Ohio State but in the same conference as Penn [TS]

01:04:42   State both my younger brothers went to Penn State so that's where my my my [TS]

01:04:46   association is but anyway so the point I bring this up because we went to a [TS]

01:04:52   sports ball so when we went tailgating over the years we've been doing this for [TS]

01:04:57   a few years now we've updated our tailgate setup from you know just a [TS]

01:05:02   grill to a grill and a kind of ok generator to a grill and a kind of fancy [TS]

01:05:09   generator and so grill generator and TV and this year it was this past weekend [TS]

01:05:17   actually it just so happened that my beloved Virginia Tech Hokies were [TS]

01:05:20   playing noon game that I really wanted to watch and the UVA game was at 3:30 [TS]

01:05:27   and so we were tailgating while that while the Hokies were playing and it was [TS]

01:05:32   on ESPN the problem with that is we have an over the air antenna that we bring to [TS]

01:05:36   the tailgate in its full each d so we can watch you know all the local [TS]

01:05:39   channels and Charles hill on each D in the middle of a parking lot basically at [TS]

01:05:45   the University virginia which is really incredible I'm thankful for that too but [TS]

01:05:49   in this case it was ESPN and so what I did was I got my phone and I plug my [TS]

01:05:55   phone into the Lightning teach you might after plugged-in HDMI cable from that [TS]

01:05:59   into the TV and we were able to watch my beloved Virginia Tech [TS]

01:06:02   cokie's lose as we're sitting in the middle of this parking lot at UVA which [TS]

01:06:09   is just i mean to think about it like I remember watching Nickelodeon as a kid [TS]

01:06:13   and watching like double tier and some of those games shows in you would see [TS]

01:06:17   that like the grand prize was this god awful terrible video phone but this was [TS]

01:06:23   like you know the early nineties and so you could probably only video dial like [TS]

01:06:27   two other people in the entire country but you know little postage stamp size [TS]

01:06:32   like black and white video phone and it was amazing and I remember thinking to [TS]

01:06:38   myself how could that possibly be that you could see video you know on a [TS]

01:06:42   telephone and then fast forward was at fifteen twenty years whatever the case [TS]

01:06:45   may be and I'm sitting in a parking lot with the full 32 inch TV showing a [TS]

01:06:51   picture that's coming off a cellular telephone like it's just ridiculous that [TS]

01:06:55   that's a possibility and so this little obscenely expensive $50 lightning to [TS]

01:07:00   HDMI adapter made all that possible that in my data which of course it was like [TS]

01:07:06   two weeks ago that I finally ditched my unlimited data plan perhaps not a good [TS]

01:07:09   choice but so it only cost me like two or three gigs of data for the two or [TS]

01:07:13   three hours we were watching the football game so I'm really thankful for [TS]

01:07:17   that you should take care all that booty once you get your new one duck taped to [TS]

01:07:21   the back your TV and get refund $50 cable that are coming to the price they [TS]

01:07:27   don't have a TV and then you can also charge your phone that makes it so much [TS]

01:07:30   better I was able to charge my phone because I one of the ports on the [TS]

01:07:35   Lightning to HDMI adapter is another lightning port [TS]

01:07:37   yes I passes through power and since we had a generator right there when I pass [TS]

01:07:43   through power to the phone which worked out really well I'm concerned about how [TS]

01:07:46   many fumes you're inhaling with this generator that's like running the other [TS]

01:07:52   people are as mister just been an appeal into it and then and now it's it's a [TS]

01:07:57   it's actually very very fancy generators not ours it's one of the guys who [TS]

01:08:00   tailgate with but it's an inverter generator so it it it emits a perfect [TS]

01:08:04   sine wave which is pretty cool [TS]

01:08:05   not talking about the different i know i understand you're saying it was just an [TS]

01:08:11   aside so but we we bring these fifty foot extension cords so that things like [TS]

01:08:15   that [TS]

01:08:16   away from us probably near somebody else is in the other air and into speaking [TS]

01:08:23   like where we tailgate is actually not it's it's not a parking lot where in a [TS]

01:08:28   little field in front of the Astronomy building a VA don't be creepy and so [TS]

01:08:32   it's late so small field and we try to point the generator pretty much away [TS]

01:08:36   from everyone else but it's it's not near us and yet I remain concerned just [TS]

01:08:41   like us have market coming to practice test text and use the big battery if I [TS]

01:08:46   would kill to have Marco come to a football game with me that would be [TS]

01:08:50   amazing but but now it's not quite that simple I think they would like to [TS]

01:08:55   generate power right so if you go there and in electric car with a huge battery [TS]

01:09:00   fully charged that'll that'll do for tailgating right probably maybe I mean [TS]

01:09:05   the TV we use his old so it's probably not very efficient but there are times [TS]

01:09:09   then we'll use like a griddle so for example this upcoming weekend it's our [TS]

01:09:13   big game it's it's Aaron steam in my team playing each other and this year [TS]

01:09:17   it's in Charlotte cells were gonna go and we are probably going to use a [TS]

01:09:22   griddle which is a heating element which which is you know a million watts and so [TS]

01:09:25   for that you'd probably want a generator because it would drain Marcus Phantom [TS]

01:09:30   test will in like three and a half seconds [TS]

01:09:32   think it would be I'm being a little facetious here but I still the math [TS]

01:09:36   someone the shower room get out the slide rule she well for one thing I know [TS]

01:09:40   that to charge a Tesla from like a 40 amp outlets though takes like 10 hours [TS]

01:09:46   you don't realize how much power they have a granite top perfect efficient [TS]

01:09:50   power but it takes a ridiculous amount of power to move a car like that you [TS]

01:09:56   should realize how much power to just buy the not even doing the math by [TS]

01:10:00   thinking about their taking this multi $1000 car and accelerating and [TS]

01:10:04   decelerating and pushing it through the win for you know three hundred miles [TS]

01:10:08   anyway this is the future of tailgating mark my words electric-powered pickup [TS]

01:10:12   truck so the entire bed as much I love him I'm batteries [TS]

01:10:15   you're probably right quick real-time follow up a quick things first of all it [TS]

01:10:20   occurred to me that tailgating is probably a uniquely American thing sure [TS]

01:10:23   hope so maybe Australians get across america light [TS]

01:10:27   ok see ya please email me I didn't mean that in an offensive way but I'm screwed [TS]

01:10:32   now anyway so what that means is so before a football game or a bowl game [TS]

01:10:37   depending on how you look at it a lot of times what people will do is they will [TS]

01:10:41   go to the parking lot outside the stadium they're going to and they will [TS]

01:10:46   consume adult beverages and you know it's kind of chat and hang out and grill [TS]

01:10:51   food in and eat food and do all the things you'd expect a bunch of Americans [TS]

01:10:55   to do but do it outside and so some people take a little more seriously like [TS]

01:10:59   we do and bring in generators they can watch other football games while they're [TS]

01:11:02   waiting to watch the football game they want to see that's so that's what [TS]

01:11:07   tailgating is and it did the etymology there is because oftentimes you'll hang [TS]

01:11:10   out around the tailgate of a pickup truck although neither of us a pickup [TS]

01:11:14   trucks and the other piece real-time follow-up it is not be let me teach you [TS]

01:11:17   might after the official name is lightning Digital AV Adapter which I [TS]

01:11:21   would have known had I done my homework so John your turn [TS]

01:11:26   think of something else we're going to do the next round with over coming to [TS]

01:11:30   the end of the show anyway so maybe we'll be at least one more wanna talk [TS]

01:11:33   about what can you get all the lightning round after this case is lining and I [TS]

01:11:39   know I was about to say I i I was too early on that one [TS]

01:11:42   this one should be easy to guess anyone who's been listening to me on this or [TS]

01:11:46   any other podcast the third item is destiny product not since quake 3 arena [TS]

01:11:54   and Unreal Tournament 2004 have spent this much time playing a single video [TS]

01:11:58   game I PlayStation 4 is essentially a destiny machine especially since I [TS]

01:12:02   removed from the television terrible burning reasons all I do is play destiny [TS]

01:12:09   played a lot and I'm afraid to look at the total number of hours recently about [TS]

01:12:13   that you would think it would get boring but you know obviously cinema most [TS]

01:12:17   airplane with other people and that extends life the games the same reason [TS]

01:12:20   quake 3 arena real tournament were [TS]

01:12:22   for so long because you are playing with other people so the game is much less [TS]

01:12:26   predictable than playing like a single player game or a game against [TS]

01:12:29   computer-controlled opponents because people are inscrutable [TS]

01:12:32   and kind of like went through an unreal tournament there is a steady flow of [TS]

01:12:37   content back in the old days it was maps that other people it makes you download [TS]

01:12:41   new apps for Quaker and new maps are unwilling to try them out sometimes the [TS]

01:12:46   new maps will come from the people who made the game's most the times not the [TS]

01:12:50   case of Destiny all new content coming from bundy but they've had a steady [TS]

01:12:54   stream of expansion is that yes you pay for but like I was saying about this [TS]

01:12:57   someone recently the dollar per hour of enjoyment I'm gonna destiny its ratio is [TS]

01:13:03   phenomenal [TS]

01:13:05   compared to pay homage anything else like it is 60 bucks in the game [TS]

01:13:08   expansion 40 bucks and expansion but do the division of the number of hours [TS]

01:13:12   you're like oh this is like the cheapest entertainment dollars ever so the [TS]

01:13:18   expansions really have kept it fresh for me and you know the the constant [TS]

01:13:22   adjustments to the game and the systems in the game and the items and everything [TS]

01:13:25   to Bungie is doing for just from week to week not just for the expansion for me [TS]

01:13:29   to be doing little tweaks here and there and explaining why they do them that's [TS]

01:13:32   an interesting sort of surrounding context for the game where there's the [TS]

01:13:37   game and then there's the talking about the game then there's the reading about [TS]

01:13:40   the future of things that are going on in the game and I think for the most [TS]

01:13:43   part but she has been keeping things moving in the right direction if you you [TS]

01:13:47   know questionable decisions that they're going back and forth on but 2.0 the big [TS]

01:13:51   2.0 change the entire game isn't really address the lot of the worst parts of [TS]

01:13:55   the progression system in the early game so destiny is my first MMO because I [TS]

01:14:01   generally hate him and I was but I really like first-person shooter games [TS]

01:14:04   and has really good first person shooter and as far as I can tell having never [TS]

01:14:08   played any emotion for I think it's really funny too so thumbs up on destiny [TS]

01:14:13   did you ever get into counter strike out of curiosity [TS]

01:14:17   it's not quite the same kind of but it is though it's it's a new plan so that [TS]

01:14:21   human beings and so it's much more interesting than playing by yourself [TS]

01:14:24   I i tend to stay away from the more militaristic first-person shooters that [TS]

01:14:30   just they've never really appealed to the closer they get to like real life [TS]

01:14:33   guns with not a real life you know gun aficionado so the closer they get to [TS]

01:14:38   realize comes in real life military I just find it off but even though [TS]

01:14:41   counter-strike still you know basically like you know like I guess they about [TS]

01:14:45   criterion and reserve it's basically a game of tag has very little to do with [TS]

01:14:48   actual guns but it's close enough that it sort of propels me a little bit which [TS]

01:14:53   is completely fantastical you know Space Marines or shooting aliens ur powered [TS]

01:15:00   armor whatever other weird stuff you've gotten franchises like Halo and Gears of [TS]

01:15:05   War kind of a guess but I tend to stay away from the military things and [TS]

01:15:10   destiny I guess technically they're kind of the military but it's really just [TS]

01:15:13   like lasers and ppl in space aliens only asked as i log out a time playing [TS]

01:15:21   counterstrike when I was at Virginia Tech and not doing the things I should [TS]

01:15:24   have been doing like study but I love to counter strike and I i love to the quake [TS]

01:15:29   as well as quick so long ago I think that was my jam but it was alright does [TS]

01:15:38   that mean already sponsors so I guess Marco wanna do your lightning round [TS]

01:15:41   entry it's it's a little bit silly mid-on list really cuz I'm I'm still a [TS]

01:15:47   little bit like 50 50 on how much I like it but the number 69 go with the Apple [TS]

01:15:54   watch because it really has driven a positive influence in my life and the [TS]

01:16:02   Apple watches this is another one of the blog post I keep trying to write and [TS]

01:16:06   star in to rate and failing to write to write my like Apple watch six months and [TS]

01:16:11   post of course now it's like seven months and I started writing on it was [TS]

01:16:15   three months in and and the Apple watch it's easy to get announced soon so he's [TS]

01:16:22   been here because I I do wear mine everyday i've i've tried going without [TS]

01:16:27   it for a few days [TS]

01:16:28   and I don't miss it as much as I think I would before I do it and there are parts [TS]

01:16:35   of it that haven't been as Dicky for me just because they aren't that reliable [TS]

01:16:39   and and what are the things that I like about it there's an asterisk after each [TS]

01:16:45   one I do love it for notifications I do love it for a very quick serious things [TS]

01:16:52   I do love it for the activity tracking and I do love having the weather thing [TS]

01:16:57   on the face and the other complications but all those things are kind of like [TS]

01:17:01   75% there so I just kind of tentatively there I'm very happy this product exists [TS]

01:17:08   but I I think it still needs a lot more work on both the hardware and the [TS]

01:17:13   software before it's very good but I do like where it is now and it had it did [TS]

01:17:18   something that I didn't think was possible which is it transform me into a [TS]

01:17:22   person as I mentioned when it was new I hadn't wanna watch you for this since [TS]

01:17:28   like high school now that we're in the cell phone revolution and to the point [TS]

01:17:32   of a watch but now they have one I like it a lot and so now I'm starting to look [TS]

01:17:36   at other watches that don't have screens and don't have batteries another [TS]

01:17:42   expensive hobby is a great yeah and I'm starting to like take joy in the day in [TS]

01:17:49   the design of nice watches and that's kinda nice you know so we'll see what [TS]

01:17:55   happens but but I like the Apple watching generally it's a it's a good [TS]

01:18:00   product I wouldn't say it sincerely a great one yet but it is a good product [TS]

01:18:04   now and it has given positive change my life so I appreciate that you know it's [TS]

01:18:09   funny you bring that bring up the Apple watches your lighting round entry [TS]

01:18:12   because my red lightning round entry is the Apple is going to say the exact same [TS]

01:18:17   thing and I think the piece that is is most startling to me is the [TS]

01:18:24   notifications which you brought up a moment ago I haven't heard my phone [TS]

01:18:30   except when I've accidentally turned the ringer back on since I received my Apple [TS]

01:18:35   watch which was what may or something like that so I haven't heard my phone [TS]

01:18:40   since then and I think that's a good thing and I i had even before the Apple [TS]

01:18:46   outside cold a lot of my notifications in in brought that number way way way [TS]

01:18:49   down and you know I turned off a lot of 24 notifications turned off [TS]

01:18:52   notifications a lot of those that I really didn't need to be notified about [TS]

01:18:57   turned off and even with all of those notifications off you haven't turned [TS]

01:19:03   those back on since I've gotta watch but even what remains things like text [TS]

01:19:07   messages or emails from VIPs or what have you [TS]

01:19:10   nobody else has to know when that stuff is happening I get a nice little tap tap [TS]

01:19:15   tap on my wrist and that's that and I really really really love that I too [TS]

01:19:21   have in my list of things to do my six months and now seven months in Apple I [TS]

01:19:27   too have been procrastinating because I haven't figured out what my angle is [TS]

01:19:31   really but I completely concur with you that especially for a device that as [TS]

01:19:37   with most things I hemmed and hawed about I'm really glad I got it I love it [TS]

01:19:42   so much for just keeping that that noise clutter out of my life and yes of course [TS]

01:19:48   I'm still getting notified about these things but I don't know just having it [TS]

01:19:52   be silent I just like so much begin in a bit just because I feel like it's kind [TS]

01:19:56   of disrespectful to have your devices bringing in bombing well while other [TS]

01:20:01   people are around and I just love that pissed that my phone has been silent [TS]

01:20:05   since May and that's really awesome God that I'm so now I'm so glad I was gonna [TS]

01:20:12   say if you two had not mention the Apple actually would've been weird to have to [TS]

01:20:17   have us none of us mention Apple's you know new product line that you know like [TS]

01:20:22   the the big thing that the latest big thing I wuv wishing I was also mentioned [TS]

01:20:27   but the latest big things from apple the Apple large come towards the end of [TS]

01:20:32   Arles I really wouldn't put it on mine mostly because the avalanche has not [TS]

01:20:37   change the fact that I am NOT a person I do not like things that I rest my wife [TS]

01:20:42   only real-time heckling me about how often I forget to put my watch and my my [TS]

01:20:47   plan what I've done my plan to always wear to work but I very often forget [TS]

01:20:52   when I do wear to work I find it convenient just like a little tap tap on [TS]

01:20:56   the wrist to you know to be able to have it cracked like even though I don't do [TS]

01:21:02   it market doesn't like actually trying to fill the circles and stuff I do like [TS]

01:21:05   to get the stand-up reminders and I do make a little bit of extra effort to be [TS]

01:21:09   more mobile network is that basically reminds you like it's like I was outside [TS]

01:21:13   run various times R Us iraq your mind you hey I know you're kind of like in [TS]

01:21:17   the zone on some issue but remember to get up and just like the refill your [TS]

01:21:22   water covered cannot take a walk around or do something else and I do find it a [TS]

01:21:28   specially convened [TS]

01:21:31   so I don't have to do anything on my phone even without a sitting on the desk [TS]

01:21:35   it just seems so much and even with HID seems like so much more of an effort to [TS]

01:21:39   pick the things up but my thumb thing on my incredibly slow iPhone 6 without the [TS]

01:21:44   S [TS]

01:21:44   the way those extra to go on we're going to watch none of that is involved in a [TS]

01:21:50   look at it and and Apple pan the watch I find it all so much nicer than doing i [TS]

01:21:54   will pay on the phone I do it like a plan to use it whenever whenever [TS]

01:21:57   possible can I use that will pay and double tapping the watch is nicer than [TS]

01:22:01   again putting the phone new thing and trying to the thumb piano is not ready [TS]

01:22:04   mytouch I D and then just automatically so I wouldn't put it on my list because [TS]

01:22:10   it is just reinforce that I'm not a white person I know I can also say that [TS]

01:22:13   the watches like something that I guess I wouldn't have bought it on my own [TS]

01:22:19   cause I did buy it on my own but it was kind of like well I should probably buy [TS]

01:22:23   it to see what all the fuss is about like it's kind of like I bought it for [TS]

01:22:27   work work being this podcast whereas I was another podcast and wasn't writing [TS]

01:22:30   that text up I probably wouldn't have voted in the end I'm so glad I bought it [TS]

01:22:35   but I'm let's put it this way I'm not going to rush out to buy the next [TS]

01:22:39   version of the Apple watch probably wait a couple revisions and targets way that [TS]

01:22:43   it is I think a lot of my reasons the watches not the Apple I essentially for [TS]

01:22:47   watches in general I just don't like things I rest of the smaller and lighter [TS]

01:22:51   and less like an Airstream trailer [TS]

01:22:53   that's right I know I said it earlier but it would really be wrong of me not [TS]

01:23:02   to say thanks to all our listeners more time in our sponsors as well as the [TS]

01:23:05   thank you to our listeners in two or three sponsors Squarespace automatic and [TS]

01:23:10   bushel alright and we will see you next week we doing a tag team I got the I [TS]

01:23:16   love with you will see you next week do you say we will see we don't actually [TS]

01:23:20   see them I do say that thank you for ruining it now [TS]

01:23:24   alright it's fine I just want to overthink it now the show they didn't [TS]

01:23:33   even mean to be in accidental accidental [TS]

01:23:42   Casey [TS]

01:23:45   it was fun and a team Marco [TS]

01:24:28   there was also a good idea john i do want to add one more kind of bonus 1 [TS]

01:24:34   year ago so one is the Apple pencil and this is a really short one because it's [TS]

01:24:40   you know it's easy when you say you know what the best of the year the stuff that [TS]

01:24:43   he most recently tends to be more weight in your mind so I don't know what I mean [TS]

01:24:48   I think long-term about it but the a pencil is really cool and yes the Apple [TS]

01:24:52   TV is also knew the Apple TV i think is more of a mixed bag in terms of [TS]

01:24:55   complexity and some of its remaining shortcomings and everything but the [TS]

01:25:00   intensively only does one thing and it does that one thing already today from [TS]

01:25:05   day one and it does it shockingly well once you can find one but it and it is [TS]

01:25:12   so good and it's so nice to use that it is making me keep borrowing tips iPad [TS]

01:25:18   Peru and keep wishing I had more of a reason to use this pencil because I am [TS]

01:25:24   NOT a visual artist I don't illustrate things I don't make diagrams I don't [TS]

01:25:29   take notes I I don't really have a good reason to use it but I wish I did [TS]

01:25:34   because it's just so pleasant and delightful and just like technically [TS]

01:25:39   satisfying like I know how good it is like it's it's also nice to use so what [TS]

01:25:44   are you doing with it I'm just playing around maybe I should start trend take [TS]

01:25:48   notes on things I don't know I don't know right now just player and the [TS]

01:25:52   second thing is Tesla I don't own a test yet I'm planning on buying one soon but [TS]

01:25:59   I don't own one yet but one thing I like about Tesla and they eating 2015 nearly [TS]

01:26:03   came into their own with this that you know in the absence of Steve Jobs now [TS]

01:26:09   the world is kind of low on genius billionaire is that are kind of near the [TS]

01:26:15   tech industry that are making things really interesting for everybody and [TS]

01:26:18   it's fun to be in one of those groups like it's fun it was fun to be a fan of [TS]

01:26:23   Apple when steve was really at its peak between 4:30 before he died but it's fun [TS]

01:26:30   to be a fan of a crazy billionaire company that's doing crazy good things [TS]

01:26:37   jeff has always almost been that kind of person but [TS]

01:26:40   not that kind of person Steve Jobs definitely was and i think you must have [TS]

01:26:44   that kind of person and where ya he's he's out of his mind but is also a [TS]

01:26:49   genius and he also is very different to keep making really interesting products [TS]

01:26:55   that are pushing things forward in the in this area that the team that is [TS]

01:26:58   working it and so i think i think what Tesla is doing is really cool even if I [TS]

01:27:05   don't end up buying one which will buy one I have pretty much decided that now [TS]

01:27:09   but it's just really cool to be in one of those fandoms of these kind of [TS]

01:27:16   products but he's crazy billionaires again because they they do things that [TS]

01:27:19   seem so audacious and when when they do them well it's really nice and an apple [TS]

01:27:27   did it well and now Tessa seems to be doing it well and so that's vertical [TS]

01:27:30   Activision is kind of like a crazy billionaire Mishra destiny wow very good [TS]

01:27:39   for Activision they are simply crazy [TS]

01:27:39   for Activision they are simply crazy [TS]

00:00:00   I made the mistake of going to the grocery store today I figured you know [TS]

00:00:03   if I go yes Thanksgiving week but if I go on Monday at New no one else is gonna [TS]

00:00:10   be there is a way too early and at the middle of the day people take off the [TS]

00:00:13   whole week I think I don't understand where everybody was when I went to work [TS]

00:00:16   today it was a little traffic there was a lot of people in the parking lot don't [TS]

00:00:19   go to the the any food many places that sell food or beverages this week all of [TS]

00:00:25   the traffic was in my grocery store's parking lot apparently everybody else in [TS]

00:00:30   the world had the same idea that I did no one's gonna be there on Monday at [TS]

00:00:34   noon i didnt i didnt know you live in a retirement community we need something [TS]

00:00:41   fun and clever to start the show it maybe we can do a little bit of [TS]

00:00:44   follow-up John's favorite topic [TS]

00:00:46   the internet has given us a gift today and by the internet I mean David Collett [TS]

00:00:51   lead I'm so sorry that I probably pronounced it wrong but david has given [TS]

00:00:57   us the John Siracusa paper doll kit which this is really a call out to [TS]

00:01:03   reconcile differences which this is this is a different privacy has confused [TS]

00:01:07   about what we're doing that I know this was followed is John keep up or taken [TS]

00:01:10   out with john why are you acknowledging the fallout has a solid meaning and you [TS]

00:01:14   are arguing over what it is I don't know what followed me and so I know this is a [TS]

00:01:17   topic they were probably talked about it on that other podcasts like when you say [TS]

00:01:21   it like area on another network we can even a mule's but it's fine if you wanna [TS]

00:01:30   do paper dolls fun guy just I wanted to be just wanted to call everyone's [TS]

00:01:34   attention to this absolutely phenomenal tweet from from David with the John [TS]

00:01:40   Surtees a paper doll your nose was a little read off each for my taste if [TS]

00:01:44   that's a style that's not that's not a reflection on my actual knows didn't [TS]

00:01:49   even notice the Clinton in 1992 shirt that's very few knew what the Rangers [TS]

00:01:56   look like I should [TS]

00:01:57   they're printing us out for my kids to play with my god they would have the ATP [TS]

00:02:05   shared addition obviously can we get this printed on like a sheet of magnet [TS]

00:02:10   things that you could actually is that is like a company that does that I'm [TS]

00:02:15   sure is that he's done some other pictures of me as well as they go on [TS]

00:02:21   we're running back you know that one it's the layers are in folders [TS]

00:02:27   accessories torso pants footwear so you can add this is this actually you don't [TS]

00:02:32   even need many can actually talk about everything right from here as long as [TS]

00:02:35   you're willing to launch Photoshop as a people been doing with a composed the [TS]

00:02:38   different versions of me still put a link to the belief that we will put a [TS]

00:02:45   link to the website where you can see all this stuff is really is incredible [TS]

00:02:48   said you guys are we all did a very terrible job explain why does exist [TS]

00:02:53   yeah that's true anyway I'm reconcilable differences which is about guess it with [TS]

00:02:57   marlon man we talked about closing at one point and this is my phones idea [TS]

00:03:01   that someone should make a paper doll version of me to help dress me he got [TS]

00:03:05   into his head that that he wants to do a makeover like that you know those are [TS]

00:03:10   clear I type shows us where there's someone who doesn't have any fashion [TS]

00:03:13   sense and other people with fashion sense want to fix him that's what he [TS]

00:03:17   wants to do to make her want other people to do to me so he go paper dolls [TS]

00:03:20   tattoos tattoos lear is a question mark after in the layer 2 because there is [TS]

00:03:28   none [TS]

00:03:30   get that one that nobody talks about well really get to use personally have [TS]

00:03:36   never ever ever ever desire to have a tattoo on the internet you know that [TS]

00:03:40   means they gonna have won six months now [TS]

00:03:49   goodness knows anything I would want anything I would like enough to put on [TS]

00:03:53   my body like a it would probably be like some sort of consumer BS but be [TS]

00:03:58   inevitably I would end up Adrian so I can imagine so I love so I have I have [TS]

00:04:05   configured now the rugby shirt jeans asics shoes and the and the John glasses [TS]

00:04:12   but the boat I it's a fantastic combination hear both sides are cool and [TS]

00:04:18   you would get that reference on TV I got nothing what's up for TV shows my butt [TS]

00:04:27   which speaking of it I think I've gotten to the point that I hate listen to top [TS]

00:04:35   four because so much of what you guys say I've never listened to a podcast [TS]

00:04:41   makes you want to yell at him or i think is working as designed as far as I can [TS]

00:04:45   tell how do I think you're right I absolutely think he right in the thing [TS]

00:04:48   is like I genuinely do enjoy the show in there are times like i I tweeted it both [TS]

00:04:53   of you earlier today I genuinely thought that the way you handled the pizza [TS]

00:04:56   discussion was perfect because without question it is so much easier to find [TS]

00:05:00   good pizza in New York or the surrounding area than anywhere else [TS]

00:05:04   don't say it don't say but there is good pizza we had another places which I did [TS]

00:05:10   say what you said but I assume I will hate it when I know I thought Marco you [TS]

00:05:17   guys both handled it perfectly I really did create it's it's just like that the [TS]

00:05:27   standard john was a bow tie if I don't think the most I fits with their rugby [TS]

00:05:32   shirt I don't think that's it doesn't that doesn't fit I think you should try [TS]

00:05:36   this one day maybe next year to BBC something like that [TS]

00:05:39   showed us my wife who said why do you look so angry angry about either being [TS]

00:05:48   half naked are about other people dressing me I can't imagine you be [TS]

00:05:53   incredibly happy about either of those states so I think it's it's the [TS]

00:05:57   appropriate expression but anyway I I was I was very happy with how you handle [TS]

00:06:03   that but I think part of me so perturbed at top four days because I don't like [TS]

00:06:08   Indian food with the exception of non which is delightful but the thing of it [TS]

00:06:12   is very very well could be that I've just made terrible choices whenever I've [TS]

00:06:17   gone for Indian food even know what I've eaten but I can tell you I'm not like [TS]

00:06:20   any of it and in so I was very perturbed that Indian ranked so high on your list [TS]

00:06:25   however I concur with pizza I concur with Panera and delis I think you're a [TS]

00:06:31   little harsh and Quiznos subway but I can get past that I mean if if if you're [TS]

00:06:38   in a place where the best options you have are Quiznos or subway just go to [TS]

00:06:42   the grocery store and buy cold cuts make it better that like it at that [TS]

00:06:46   wanna see what I did live in those places that's what I did because it was [TS]

00:06:49   better for the most part I did agree with most of what you guys said so and [TS]

00:06:55   you can't forgive that the subway triangle cheese tessellation issue I [TS]

00:07:00   guess you are spot on that I completely agree to give context to this this is [TS]

00:07:05   top for the podcast Marco does with his wife and they supposedly whatever top [TS]

00:07:16   for take-out restaurant stop for Halloween candies what they actually do [TS]

00:07:20   on the show is only vaguely related to that and they're now lately both having [TS]

00:07:24   trouble coming up with up for anything and almost there pains a terribly wrong [TS]

00:07:28   anyway that's the show and it sure we conclude the advertiser podcast sections [TS]

00:07:37   of the spot yes yes you should complain about the fact that I have brought up [TS]

00:07:41   the to podcast that my co-host have done [TS]

00:07:44   I have not brought up any of my extracurriculars but yes he continued to [TS]

00:07:48   be upset John that's that's just your personality casey you didn't even [TS]

00:07:51   mention robot or not [TS]

00:07:52   well now we have to bring up the income people you are on the income people [TS]

00:07:57   especially your show no one ever showed only I understood that reference right [TS]

00:08:09   now that you've ruined follow out for me just as you had planned to use them [TS]

00:08:14   follow up and talk about what been wrote in and said I thought you would never [TS]

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00:10:07   beautiful night so John tell us in this follow-up section what Benji wrote in [TS]

00:10:12   and said we're talking about the iPad pro screen and how it wasn't quite as [TS]

00:10:18   good in terms of color accuracy is as service pro for it not also not as good [TS]

00:10:21   as some of the earlier iPad screens Apple had made her the smaller ones [TS]

00:10:25   anyway and I wondered if it was kind of a shame that it didn't have the new set [TS]

00:10:31   of a wide spectrum or whatever the correct term is that large damage anyway [TS]

00:10:37   display that the iMac does that the cp3 specification which is bigger than RGB [TS]

00:10:43   and then run that one of the reasons that I petrol can't do that is because [TS]

00:10:47   it requires an RGB backlight so these Koreans that we call it STDs but [TS]

00:10:51   sometimes all LEDs LED just refers the backlight so you've got a bunch of you [TS]

00:10:56   got this semi transparent thing in front but little colored section is that you [TS]

00:11:00   can turn on and off in different mountain behind it [TS]

00:11:02   behind most computers have a big white light on all the time [TS]

00:11:06   over the entire screen for computer screens anyway and apparently the iMac [TS]

00:11:10   has instead of a big white light behind it and RGB backlight so the back like [TS]

00:11:15   that can be different colors instead of just white and I didn't know that I know [TS]

00:11:19   televisions do that on television and also to wear tricks with the backlight [TS]

00:11:23   to try to make the image look better but it makes sense that if the iMac as an [TS]

00:11:28   orgy of a cloud perhaps they can't get that small enough for low-power enough [TS]

00:11:31   to be a pro just yet [TS]

00:11:34   company had to wake up more years I guess they're not but I did not know [TS]

00:11:38   that I really didn't have any idea that there was an RGB back that's very cool [TS]

00:11:42   tell me about iMac insomnia do my wife's new 27 inch iMac [TS]

00:11:50   was saying last week that kid seems to have insomnia put to sleep and animal [TS]

00:11:56   wake up again or will just walk away from the computer after using it and [TS]

00:11:59   then come back an hour later it still awake and I wasn't quite able to figure [TS]

00:12:02   out why lots of listeners sent in suggestions [TS]

00:12:06   one coming along with the IR receiver if it's in the line of sight of something [TS]

00:12:11   that sprays I are like a remote control or one of those IR blaster things or [TS]

00:12:15   whatever [TS]

00:12:16   conceivable that the IR receiver on a Mac which I guess it has won I don't [TS]

00:12:20   know but have an uneven check did have one theory is that for our computers to [TS]

00:12:25   do have an IR receiver if it's near your television or something like that you [TS]

00:12:29   could keep it away just with IR input I don't know that theory is correct [TS]

00:12:33   because i think is that fine line of sight of any I R and I don't even know [TS]

00:12:38   if my thing has IR receiver probably does but anyway the next guess was [TS]

00:12:43   Bluetooth if you go to the Bluetooth preference pane this is annoying this is [TS]

00:12:47   an inside Energy Saver Bluetooth preference pane then you have to click [TS]

00:12:51   on Advanced then there's a checkbox that says allow Bluetooth devices to wake [TS]

00:12:55   this computer and that was checked by default so I unchecked it and I think my [TS]

00:13:00   problems are solved but I've got that the reason that feature exists that you [TS]

00:13:03   have my Mac if you get it with the recommended Apple crappy cripples [TS]

00:13:08   Bluetooth keyboard and the recommended bluetooth mouse then you don't have your [TS]

00:13:13   mouse or keyboard connected with a wire to computers on your computer was asleep [TS]

00:13:17   if you don't have the setting checked and you hit the spacebar like to wake up [TS]

00:13:20   your computer or wiggle the mouse or click the mouse button or something [TS]

00:13:23   the computer on actually wake up I don't have that problem we've got a wired [TS]

00:13:26   keyboard attached to it actually a USB mouse that's so i'll check that thing [TS]

00:13:34   and so far so good the computer has not had insomnia it hasn't woken up [TS]

00:13:38   spontaneously and go to sleep it stays asleep so I'm pretty well convinced that [TS]

00:13:42   I solve my problem exxon I would never would have guessed it was Bluetooth [TS]

00:13:46   acting up but I'm glad to figure that out I also don't understand how you [TS]

00:13:51   could have wires on your desktop [TS]

00:13:52   you know teacher it's a keyboard tray so the wires are going to anything [TS]

00:13:56   he portrayed the right height you know but the desk at the right to low and [TS]

00:14:04   then you need some of the the computer oh yeah that's easier than managing [TS]

00:14:08   keyboard I think the main reason wife like the keyboard tray is that it gives [TS]

00:14:13   her more room to jump on the desk because he didn't hire service desk in [TS]

00:14:18   front of you is free for like having papers and stuff like sometimes it's [TS]

00:14:21   good to be like referring to note I'm just piling stuff but really it's [TS]

00:14:24   convenient I think I would even if I didn't need to forget positioning you [TS]

00:14:28   never had like a despot that went up and down I get it right in fact I had to [TS]

00:14:31   work my desk at work has somewhat adjustable and I tried putting it down [TS]

00:14:35   to a level that it should be for the keyboard and I just like the desk higher [TS]

00:14:38   and the little train journey that's what I'm used to any other follow that was [TS]

00:14:43   another quick round of all very proud of us well this is a trip here time after [TS]

00:14:48   the after the last episode I'm sure yeah and also its its low for the holidays I [TS]

00:14:52   feel like we need to have like a laid-back episode 42 drink added realize [TS]

00:14:59   that was the plan [TS]

00:15:00   yeah right to speak of holidays John you came up with an idea for this episode [TS]

00:15:04   yet because we're recording this on a Monday only a few days after record the [TS]

00:15:09   last episode because our offer our holiday is Thanksgiving holiday [TS]

00:15:13   vacations and travels and so on I thought what better way to celebrate [TS]

00:15:18   Thanksgiving which is a holiday here in the us- people outside the US can look [TS]

00:15:23   it up its pretty down as far as hot as hell but anyway it is a holiday and we [TS]

00:15:26   get off a little slow down you gonna have to explain yourself on that one [TS]

00:15:30   it's it's one of those holiday is the really is [TS]

00:15:35   doesn't really make much sense it's not really that historically significant [TS]

00:15:39   it's only because the people involved in it where the important enough people to [TS]

00:15:42   celebrate something like they're celebrating the story of Thanksgiving [TS]

00:15:45   but bottom line is we you know people European countries are all the [TS]

00:15:49   indigenous people took all the plant and not feel guilty for it and stuff but [TS]

00:15:53   heavy hearted kind of celebrating how nice it was that we all cooperated is [TS]

00:15:56   like weird like yeah and then we live together happily ever after right now we [TS]

00:16:01   don't anyway it's not as bad as Columbus Day but it's close but we don't care [TS]

00:16:07   because it's just the holiday season and we have turkey and got around with [TS]

00:16:10   family and argue about politics are your Thanksgiving is going to go I don't make [TS]

00:16:15   this into a downer bottom line is we get off work at 10 straight to his party but [TS]

00:16:19   only for Thursday you have to take a vacation day for Friday or just you know [TS]

00:16:24   be retired like some of us are mile even Marco has to visit family at [TS]

00:16:28   Thanksgiving Thanksgiving I would I would rather work for the rest of the [TS]

00:16:34   year full time than deal with Thanksgiving family drama untrue you [TS]

00:16:38   don't know my family [TS]

00:16:39   well I don't know why I think you underestimate what it would be like to [TS]

00:16:43   work for the rest of the year waking up and getting into an office and [TS]

00:16:46   committing to going to get in the middle of this anyway I don't do a downer [TS]

00:16:53   Thanksgiving which I get that even though the stupid holiday it is a [TS]

00:16:57   holiday and one of the good things about thanksgiving is a time of year when in [TS]

00:17:02   theory you are supposed to reflect on what you are thankful for that is [TS]

00:17:06   usually the part of the evening before people get drunk and angry and started [TS]

00:17:09   politics sometimes occur on the table and say and say what you think you'll [TS]

00:17:13   fall for or whatever whoever has the most willing and able to induce [TS]

00:17:18   embarrassment in your extended family using make this happen so i guess im [TS]

00:17:22   filling that role here on the podcast [TS]

00:17:23   asked the assembled get a group of house what 2015 issue check things are we most [TS]

00:17:33   thankful for that have to be this year they could be like a three or four year [TS]

00:17:36   old text you just discovered this year I don't need your framing is loose but [TS]

00:17:39   anyway what kind of things are we thankful for anything that is going [TS]

00:17:42   around in circles until we're all exhausted and don't have anything left [TS]

00:17:45   to be thankful for [TS]

00:17:47   ok I'm a list of real I really was trying not to invoke the ghost like well [TS]

00:17:57   not the most thankful for this but it's probably round 945 actually have 50 [TS]

00:18:02   number five [TS]

00:18:04   very clear number one alright alright I'll market seems like he's ready to go [TS]

00:18:08   first so yeah I did not do my homework on this I thought about it like 10 [TS]

00:18:12   minutes about half an hour ago you could have markers doing more homework than I [TS]

00:18:15   am something is seriously broke three days notice I know I just can't go ahead [TS]

00:18:22   Marco well Mike my clear number one I thought it immediately when you said [TS]

00:18:26   this and there is no contest and DNS responder section number one so so for [TS]

00:18:35   the if anybody doesn't get the joke this is the the old version of the old [TS]

00:18:40   version of discovery D which is the system diamond that's responsible on [TS]

00:18:46   Macs and iOS devices for network name lookup finding Bonjour devices etc or [TS]

00:18:52   whatever it was called you know that's the news because you write anyway so so [TS]

00:18:59   it's it's very much responsible for like Macs and Apple devices finding other [TS]

00:19:03   servers and devices on the network and coordinating things with them so for [TS]

00:19:07   things like file-sharing probably involved in things like airdrop [TS]

00:19:10   definitely no network shares Apple TV kind of stuff airplay and discover ed [TS]

00:19:16   was the new version of this the rewrite of this ship with yosemite and with iOS [TS]

00:19:22   ate it was so buggy and caused so many problems for so many people you know if [TS]

00:19:28   if if during the era of yosemite I was eight if you if you ever had things like [TS]

00:19:33   other matching your network disappear and just not be visible [TS]

00:19:37   finder for browsing or for sharing or if you had things like you have the [TS]

00:19:41   computer name with a number after it like you know tips computers and it's [TS]

00:19:46   like what and where it and some reason to believe that some of that that was [TS]

00:19:50   the kind of problems with this but it caused so many other problems that some [TS]

00:19:55   people just got lucky like the HDMI CEC unicorn than just never had it I hit all [TS]

00:20:00   of these problems you have problems like you know certain like network printers [TS]

00:20:05   that had greater faces with frequently fail and just never be connectable [TS]

00:20:10   anymore [TS]

00:20:11   airplay would fail constantly airdrop would fail constantly so many problems [TS]

00:20:15   with with various network and inter inter Mac inter island communication [TS]

00:20:21   things and this is honestly this is a major driver behind my well circulated [TS]

00:20:25   peace applesauce the function of high ground from last winter because it it [TS]

00:20:30   shipped with your assembly and iOS in the fall of 2014 and it took until what [TS]

00:20:38   summertime something that before they issued an update that reverted back to [TS]

00:20:43   the old server discovery d back in the old one and DNS responder which just fix [TS]

00:20:48   all the problems and so it it was a good six months as some like that of using [TS]

00:20:52   this and the number of problems I encountered for the six months just made [TS]

00:20:57   me question everything about Apple just like how could they possibly have let [TS]

00:21:00   this go for so long [TS]

00:21:01   ship this and it was making all the stuff that makes Apple devices usually [TS]

00:21:05   pleasant it like so much it was crumbling or was leased unreliable for [TS]

00:21:10   me and when when they went back to MDS responder massive amount of these [TS]

00:21:16   problems just disappeared immediately for me and so now I can do things like [TS]

00:21:20   browse the iTunes share from the Apple TV and watch movies that are on my home [TS]

00:21:26   server on the Apple TV and stuff like that I can reliably connect to the Mac [TS]

00:21:30   Mini deserve this lifestyle I can reliably connect computer and share [TS]

00:21:33   files my can print it works every time like this is stuff that used to work [TS]

00:21:38   very reliably didn't for like six months and now does again so number one by far [TS]

00:21:44   from me is the return of Mtns responder the number one thing [TS]

00:21:48   is really just a sly way to complain about something no I you know i i wanted [TS]

00:21:55   you know I run an update article when you know once I was pretty sure that [TS]

00:21:58   this would fix everything and I really want to be clear that it was really bad [TS]

00:22:02   before and also I'm really happy now because now they have fix that massive [TS]

00:22:08   class problems and Apple stuff has all sorts of other problems still and you [TS]

00:22:12   know I'm sure we will spend we will spare no moment talking about those but [TS]

00:22:17   that really did fix a ton of them that I was having and I and it it says a lot of [TS]

00:22:23   an apple that they were you know that was a big mistake to ship that and to [TS]

00:22:26   stick with it for so long but it does say a lot about Apple that rather than [TS]

00:22:30   just like double down that in just like try to crank through and figure out all [TS]

00:22:34   the problems they said no we go back like I don't think they've really done [TS]

00:22:38   that very often and I can't even imagine what had to go on inside the company to [TS]

00:22:43   to convince you ever need to be convinced to roll back to abandon this [TS]

00:22:46   whole rewrite of this thing to roll back to the previous version but I'm really [TS]

00:22:51   glad I did because it really did fix a massive number of problems I was having [TS]

00:22:54   as I mentioned in this originally happened and DNS responder had a [TS]

00:22:59   terrible reputation in nearly a year is about 10 because it was the process that [TS]

00:23:04   it was always hanging in making stuff not work on your computer [TS]

00:23:07   all I kinda like basic functionality of connecting to server isn't loading web [TS]

00:23:11   pages the solid value to kill him responders home runs constantly crashing [TS]

00:23:15   and eventually got to the point where I guess it was stable but their prime [TS]

00:23:20   motivator plays it because it was old and crusty and never really work right [TS]

00:23:23   and they had run out most of the bugs but it was still probably like not easy [TS]

00:23:27   to change or add features to like you know handoff where the hell I don't even [TS]

00:23:31   know if that was what what their motivation for discovery to you but it [TS]

00:23:34   was but I was that every time they've gone and replaced some part of the [TS]

00:23:37   system with some newer thing that something you have to do that you just [TS]

00:23:41   gotta not screwed up like the the idea behind the effort was good execution was [TS]

00:23:47   bad so I really hope that if not discovery did something else comes back [TS]

00:23:50   because [TS]

00:23:51   it's not like they're replacing these things for their health their visit [TS]

00:23:54   motivation behind it as they just botched execution it will also show [TS]

00:23:58   notes to our friend of the show Craig Hockenberry who talked about this a [TS]

00:24:03   little bit strong language is preggers little perturbed but it's really good [TS]

00:24:06   writeup as to what went wrong in with their discovery and why right shall I go [TS]

00:24:12   next on would you prefer to go now europe is alright because I didn't have [TS]

00:24:17   a lot of time to third didn't spend a lot of time thinking about this my my [TS]

00:24:20   selection has my entire discovered here and you know the first thing I'm [TS]

00:24:26   thankful for which I'm really really excited about is actually live photos I [TS]

00:24:31   really really really enjoy life photos that you can make an argument that it's [TS]

00:24:35   gimmicky and maybe it is and maybe in a few years I think it's silly but sitting [TS]

00:24:40   here now I love life photos being able to have a little bit of context around [TS]

00:24:44   what's happening especially when you have a really young child in the house [TS]

00:24:48   is really really awesome and there's been a couple of life photos that I've [TS]

00:24:53   gotten just by pure happenstance that have been really awesome like once I [TS]

00:24:57   took a picture Declan when we were out to eat and and he decided to make this [TS]

00:25:02   like just mammoth Eon right as I taking the pictures so you can see this like [TS]

00:25:07   huge yawn as he's as he's eating at this restaurant and it it sounds silly [TS]

00:25:12   describing it but it was just the funniest lie photo and I don't know that [TS]

00:25:15   I I don't know that I would have captured that moment had it not been for [TS]

00:25:20   the fact that what I thought was the picture was actually a very very short [TS]

00:25:25   movie and so I love live photos I the only thing I don't like about life [TS]

00:25:30   photos now it makes me question whether or not I want to use my big semi fancy [TS]

00:25:33   camera or my i phone to take pictures and generally speaking I do you reach [TS]

00:25:37   for the big camera but it doesn't make me feel guilty anymore if I don't have [TS]

00:25:43   the big camera handy when trying to capture shot because I love having my [TS]

00:25:46   context they have burst mode on your big fancy camera I do when I never ever ever [TS]

00:25:50   use it though [TS]

00:25:51   blast away make your own live pictures and maybe that's one way of looking at [TS]

00:25:55   it but I very rarely shooting burst mode and the handful times I've done it [TS]

00:26:00   it has come out pretty well but then I'd have to post-process it turned into a [TS]

00:26:04   movie and blah blah blah not to say that this is egregious but it's it's it's [TS]

00:26:08   pretty magical just whipping out the thing that the phone that's in your [TS]

00:26:13   pocket and snapping a picture and having that little bit of context behind it I [TS]

00:26:17   just really really love it kind of in that vein I I'd like to this anomalous [TS]

00:26:22   sorry John is par for the course [TS]

00:26:24   yes yes it exactly right like to add to that just how incredibly good the video [TS]

00:26:29   is from the iPhone's success success + [TS]

00:26:31   this year I finally after seven years of created my main good camera from a Canon [TS]

00:26:37   5d mark two to the Sony a seven are too and it's a fantastic hammer in every way [TS]

00:26:42   and I love this thing I I love the pictures I get out of the Sony it's [TS]

00:26:46   incredible it is incredibly expensive too so it's not for everybody but when [TS]

00:26:50   you buy a camera every seven years it's it's it can be justifiable but anyway [TS]

00:26:55   love love this camera and it shoots for k video and it's one of the it's one of [TS]

00:27:00   the relatively few cameras on the market for a video there's they're getting [TS]

00:27:05   warmer numerous but they're still relatively few in number but the [TS]

00:27:09   iPhone's success came out and the success also shoots for k video and [TS]

00:27:13   having shot now with both of them a reasonable amount the difference between [TS]

00:27:18   them is not that big like here here's a scammer that's being hailed as one of [TS]

00:27:23   the best cameras overall ever made and one of the best camera that can shoot [TS]

00:27:27   for K and the camera that's an every iPhone of the current generation shoots [TS]

00:27:34   for k video that to my as a casual observer is almost just as good [TS]

00:27:40   equality you get out of this out of the iPhone 4 came granted it isn't 60 frames [TS]

00:27:45   per second it's only 30 I don't have it I don't know what shoots for K sixty for [TS]

00:27:49   his second but it's never seen anything that offered that it seems like for k [TS]

00:27:53   everywhere these days basically 30 but if you're going to deal with the lower [TS]

00:27:56   frame rate it looks incredible just to have that resolution it really does look [TS]

00:28:01   like a moving photo it's just it looks like a real life photo [TS]

00:28:05   and live photos are great like you know they're they're great for when he didn't [TS]

00:28:09   intend to take a video but when you do intend to take a video the quality you [TS]

00:28:13   can get out of the iPhone camera in for k mode is just ridiculously good and for [TS]

00:28:19   people like us who have kids and get all sentimental about how how Peter kids are [TS]

00:28:23   it is just stunning how how much this captures life in the way it looks in [TS]

00:28:29   real life and I'm very very glad to have this because you know most [TS]

00:28:34   almost every parent at some point says you know I really wish I shot more video [TS]

00:28:37   I really really with a shot more photos and and i've been that way for video [TS]

00:28:41   certainly but you know we should plenty of photos but we don't shoot another [TS]

00:28:44   video yeah I'm the same way I reflect and look back on on the pictures and [TS]

00:28:50   video of taken in the last year just over a year old now and I couldn't agree [TS]

00:28:55   more that I've taken a lot of really great pictures I'm really proud of the [TS]

00:28:58   pictures I've taken but I haven't shot near enough video and and I think that [TS]

00:29:02   part of the problem is is that it's not often especially early in life like [TS]

00:29:07   super early in life that that I can capture something that's quote-unquote [TS]

00:29:11   remarkable as it's happening and I think that that's the wrong attitude to have [TS]

00:29:15   and I should be better about just capturing everyday life because it'll be [TS]

00:29:18   interesting to look at maybe not know year five years maybe in ten or twenty [TS]

00:29:22   years and so I'm trying to train myself to to start taking video of things that [TS]

00:29:27   seemed really boring and like you were saying Marco I I really really like that [TS]

00:29:33   this camera that's in my pocket always takes forte video which is kind of it's [TS]

00:29:41   kind of an insurance policy right you know there will eventually be video that [TS]

00:29:44   is crisper than forte but sitting here in 2015 that's the case gonna look [TS]

00:29:50   pretty good for a while I think in and so I'm really happy that I'm getting [TS]

00:29:53   really high resolution video out of the camera I am most likely to have on me [TS]

00:29:57   always yeah and it really does not look like it like an inferior quality camera [TS]

00:30:03   when you're shooting for k with the iPhone it does not seem inferior quality [TS]

00:30:07   at all in fact like you know compared to my liking a quote real and it is not a [TS]

00:30:11   dedicated video camera but a lot of people use these things for video the [TS]

00:30:14   things like the audio actually better the audio is way better on the [TS]

00:30:18   iPhone the autofocus is way better on the iPhone it shouldn't be there's no [TS]

00:30:22   reason why it should be hardware wise the Sony cases but in so many ways but [TS]

00:30:25   the iPhone just has like really nice automatic default and has really good [TS]

00:30:29   audio processing such that you with with no effort you get pretty great video out [TS]

00:30:35   of the iPhone compared to this you know professional camera it's amazing how [TS]

00:30:40   good it is so yeah I'm very thankful for how good the success is shooting video [TS]

00:30:46   because it is making me shoot more video and 8044 parenting nostalgia purposes [TS]

00:30:51   that is just awesome don't forget to take videos of your kids screaming and [TS]

00:30:55   crying because it's my kids when they're smiling or happy take pictures of their [TS]

00:31:00   crying and take video so they can hear the noise that they made because they [TS]

00:31:03   don't believe you when you try to describe it and sometimes it's nice to [TS]

00:31:06   look back when you're far distant from and I remember that terrible screeching [TS]

00:31:10   that didn't leave our house [TS]

00:31:12   declan's smiling anyway at some point has to be screaming crying capture that [TS]

00:31:17   yeah yeah we tried to occasionally bring that up because they just before the [TS]

00:31:21   show we were talking we when we were at my parents this past weekend we did like [TS]

00:31:27   a literally five or ten minute photo shoot with them where they took a bunch [TS]

00:31:31   of pictures of the three of us that would maybe they will may be used for [TS]

00:31:33   Christmas card this year and I think the pictures look good but declan's kind of [TS]

00:31:39   like nonplussed about the whole thing and you know oftentimes he's pretty [TS]

00:31:43   easily it's pretty easy to make him pretty happy and in these he's kinda [TS]

00:31:47   like whatever man and I were discussing well you know that is a better [TS]

00:31:51   representation of real life because he's usually a fairly chipper kid but he's [TS]

00:31:55   not always know super excited about everything and so we were debating and [TS]

00:31:59   didn't really reach a conclusion before before I came into record you know maybe [TS]

00:32:03   we should just use one of those and and that's okay and so I'm trying to do [TS]

00:32:07   better about capturing the annoyed Declan in the upset as time goes on [TS]

00:32:14   jonathan is your turn alright well you might think since I suggested this [TS]

00:32:18   exercise that I have some like really clever interesting [TS]

00:32:21   things I know this but i dont lose your job I'm just the idea so my first one [TS]

00:32:28   might be a surprise but I don't think so [TS]

00:32:31   based on what I've talked about it's it's it's kinda like Marquez is like a [TS]

00:32:34   qualified recommendation what is the first thing I thought of the first thing [TS]

00:32:37   I'm thankful for this year is photos Apple's photo thing where they finally [TS]

00:32:42   gave away that had access to all your photos everywhere and to put all your [TS]

00:32:46   photos up in the cloud and charger money to the storage but the prices are not so [TS]

00:32:50   bad I've had a lot of weird issues with it but I have to say all the bugs and [TS]

00:32:56   stuff that I've encountered so far have been delays not roadblocks like it's [TS]

00:33:00   done weird things that's been spooky and it's been weird but always eventually at [TS]

00:33:04   the end of it I come out the other side with a far as I'm aware fully [TS]

00:33:08   functioning and working library that is all synced up and is in the clouds [TS]

00:33:12   everywhere and is available on the phones and now on my Mac photos actually [TS]

00:33:16   performs an acceptable manner most of the time still ignores my spacebar about [TS]

00:33:20   50% of the time when I had it but anyway it's got a long way to go but I like the [TS]

00:33:24   fact that is a fairly new program that already been updated and the update has [TS]

00:33:28   added minor features and performance and I'm just glad that Apple finally has [TS]

00:33:34   gotten their photo library online and on to their servers and you know not [TS]

00:33:40   stranded on my machine they still have a long way to go when it comes to dealing [TS]

00:33:45   with families and multiple for libraries but this possible things I'm thankful [TS]

00:33:48   for complaints policy so this really does get the John Siracusa seal of [TS]

00:33:54   approval [TS]

00:33:55   well it's just because it's so much better than i photo like and you know [TS]

00:33:59   people who use our services like they use Google or you know Amazon's cloud [TS]

00:34:03   storage or whatever the saying this is the only solution for in fact it's [TS]

00:34:06   probably not even the best solution for everything that I've heard Google [TS]

00:34:09   storage solution seems to be much more reliable more features and be really [TS]

00:34:13   cool I just we've always had our photos in iPhoto and so photos is the obvious [TS]

00:34:18   and only you know transition to stay in the Apple TV Apple ecosystem and [TS]

00:34:24   iPhoto like towards the end of its life was really terrible but in the beginning [TS]

00:34:28   and middle it was pretty good especially when I library with smaller so I'm glad [TS]

00:34:33   that Apple's continue to develop a program that essentially did import my [TS]

00:34:36   iPhoto library in the same way to coalesce my ratings down into favorite [TS]

00:34:40   ok with that [TS]

00:34:42   yeah so like I still have any complaints about it but it's just so long for them [TS]

00:34:47   to do the obvious thing we all talked about ever picks in Merced when it went [TS]

00:34:52   out of business and now I'm getting all their pictures and make it so that they [TS]

00:34:58   do not all be on the device but you have access to them everywhere [TS]

00:35:01   good idea Apple have been very trigger shy on photos pretty worried about user [TS]

00:35:08   and picture life which I really really like and I been afraid to really get [TS]

00:35:15   into photos just because it's always felt like I was I didn't want to trust [TS]

00:35:21   apple with this because I don't want to go bad even though I have backups like I [TS]

00:35:24   picture life now have two or three copies locally but it just scared me but [TS]

00:35:28   to hear that it pretty much has a chance to seal of approval I might change my [TS]

00:35:31   tune but you shouldn't though I always say is it's like online backup you just [TS]

00:35:35   have to have you should everyone should be doing this if you have your photo [TS]

00:35:38   library there should be some place that you uploaded to the picture life it's [TS]

00:35:42   Google authority without those things where ever it is the whole point should [TS]

00:35:45   be that worst-case scenario you should still have online backup and you still [TS]

00:35:50   have local backup you still have local clones but I like having like yet [TS]

00:35:54   another thing that it actually dedicated to photos that despite all those things [TS]

00:35:58   those described by using back later or you know time machine or super duper [TS]

00:36:03   clones you know you're backing up over your network to whatever is on top of [TS]

00:36:08   that have another thing that says oh and by the way every time you take a picture [TS]

00:36:12   with your phone gets uploaded to the cloud thing and then get downloaded onto [TS]

00:36:15   your Mac and every time you import photos from the sdcard onto gets [TS]

00:36:18   uploaded to the cloud and download on your phone [TS]

00:36:21   and you don't have to have all your whores everywhere but on a particular [TS]

00:36:24   Mac you can say please download it for is everywhere the one with the big hard [TS]

00:36:27   drive having that extra system on top of all your backups just makes me feel [TS]

00:36:31   better about pictures so it doesn't really matter if it's photos a picture [TS]

00:36:34   of life or you go back in time you've ever picks or other products you might [TS]

00:36:39   discuss later part of the show if we don't go long on this thanksgiving stuff [TS]

00:36:43   yeah I'm not specifically endorsing photos I'm endorsing the idea of Apple [TS]

00:36:48   doing the obvious thing for photo services and it not being terrible yeah [TS]

00:36:53   and you know and we will we have been talking and many people been talking [TS]

00:36:56   before they announce this like their other various photo solutions they like [TS]

00:37:00   photostream before this kind of like a half solution and we we've been calling [TS]

00:37:05   them to do something like this forever but no one thought they actually would [TS]

00:37:09   and then not only did they do it but it was good even free version 1.0 it wasn't [TS]

00:37:15   perfect but it was pretty good and end the imperfections are only limited [TS]

00:37:20   relate to the front and app the actual back in the storage in the sinking [TS]

00:37:24   engine in my experience and I think I think most experienced worked solidly [TS]

00:37:30   from day one there was always like I said there was there is bugs but like as [TS]

00:37:35   long as they're not intractable a lot of times early on people like that it had a [TS]

00:37:39   bunch of black squares or am i thinkI feeli get that thinks that history [TS]

00:37:42   upload everything like and it's mistaken about that or all sorts of problems [TS]

00:37:46   we're either operations of taking a long time there are a couple of like crashing [TS]

00:37:51   in the middle of the import of whatever but the bottom line is if you just kept [TS]

00:37:55   trying eventually it reached a point where it's settled down which is not [TS]

00:37:58   true of for example the time machine and spotlight last time but never settle [TS]

00:38:03   down vote the best you can say about viruses sometimes it's geared up 1.0 had [TS]

00:38:07   weird bugs but in my personal experience is I never had the new can pay right [TS]

00:38:12   some people did so you know obviously it's not that it's it's both of my [TS]

00:38:17   personal experiences even when it was weird just eventually powered through [TS]

00:38:21   with me not doing anything other than [TS]

00:38:23   and maybe repeatedly trying and settles into a state now where would I take a [TS]

00:38:28   photo on my wife takes August the library's her as i dont wanna get into [TS]

00:38:31   this anyway on the phone and then go to the Mac eventually the picture shows up [TS]

00:38:36   and that's all I ask for again because he liked to that they really the Photos [TS]

00:38:42   app is very very good and it was very good since 1.0 and it's only gotten [TS]

00:38:47   better with 1.1 and I still do all my editing first for a photoshoot with with [TS]

00:38:53   the big hammer I still do anything first and Lightroom and then I kinda like pick [TS]

00:38:58   and pick and editing Lightroom and then export as for quality JPEG into photos [TS]

00:39:03   because I i dont care for photos editing tools too much but for iPhone shot [TS]

00:39:08   pictures to find and on the iPhone like having had bility and and you know my my [TS]

00:39:14   fancy pictures once I do like a first pass at it with Lightroom I'm probably [TS]

00:39:19   never gonna talk soon after that you know it's just do their export into the [TS]

00:39:23   library that's faster is it doesn't have the giant rock how to deal with and it's [TS]

00:39:27   nice it really is nice I i I have no I have no regrets about photo library [TS]

00:39:32   second spots this week is automatic on AXA connected car adapter that plugs [TS]

00:39:38   into your car's diagnostic port pairs with your phone and agreed to there were [TS]

00:39:41   20 apps to do a better driving experience go to automatic com slash ATP [TS]

00:39:46   see for yourself in a 20% off now automatic and help you in several ways [TS]

00:39:51   first of all basic stuff if you have a check engine error in your car engine [TS]

00:39:55   ECU air automatic can tell you through the phone [TS]

00:39:59   exactly what the area is and in many cases let you clear the arafat something [TS]

00:40:03   temporary like your gas cap was open it has all the data coming in from your car [TS]

00:40:06   I can tell you things like how efficiently you're driving if you want [TS]

00:40:09   to hit certain goals can alert you if you like hitting the brakes too hard hit [TS]

00:40:12   the gas too hard it can also tell you a lot of your trips if you want to track [TS]

00:40:16   that he can do things like have expense reports we're driving you can just see [TS]

00:40:20   where you go to most if you want it can keep your party locations you never lose [TS]

00:40:24   your car in a parking lot if you have an accident and it detects that the port [TS]

00:40:28   you can even call emergency services for you if you are unable to [TS]

00:40:31   it can really do quite a bit now they also have an app store with automatic [TS]

00:40:35   Automattic com slash apps you can see over 20 amp so far more being added all [TS]

00:40:39   the time you can use your car's data in all kinds of different ways so for [TS]

00:40:43   example they have a trigger with ifttt if this thing that you can build recipes [TS]

00:40:48   for things like turning my nest thermostat when I'm close to home [TS]

00:40:52   also have apps for things like concur and fresh books for invoices and expense [TS]

00:40:57   reports people watch integration license plus if you have a teenager who is [TS]

00:41:02   learning how to drive and you wanna can attract the driving and make sure that [TS]

00:41:05   they are you driving in a scene com safe way you can do that with this there's [TS]

00:41:10   also the things you can do with the automatic device and of course [TS]

00:41:15   developers check this out because you can do a lot here too they have a whole [TS]

00:41:18   epi using OAuth to REST API check it out very very easy to use now [TS]

00:41:23   automatic is normally a hundred bucks and there's no subscription fees [TS]

00:41:26   there's no monthly fee or anything you just pay that one price up front and [TS]

00:41:31   then that's it you don't have to pay for the service every month so normally this [TS]

00:41:33   press front is a hundred bucks they have a link if you go to a match.com / ATP [TS]

00:41:38   you get 20% off so it just 80 bucks and again [TS]

00:41:41   80 bucks up front one time and that's it no recurring costs that includes free [TS]

00:41:45   shipping in two business days and a 45 day risk-free return policy [TS]

00:41:50   check it out and automatic home / ATP thanks a lot [TS]

00:41:54   alright Marco do you want to go again or do you want to try to reverse the order [TS]

00:41:58   here just make your next ok my number two after my only other and I gotta have [TS]

00:42:07   a 1.2 1.3 my next one on the list john is the continued growth of podcasting I [TS]

00:42:19   i have made I have really focused my career easily on podcasting on a number [TS]

00:42:23   of fronts [TS]

00:42:24   you know we do this podcast I have the pocket of my wife top for an epochal [TS]

00:42:29   underscore David Smith an under the radar and of course I make a podcast app [TS]

00:42:33   called overcast I i really busy thanks now I'm really I'm just very thankful [TS]

00:42:39   that this industry continues to not only exist and be healthy but to thrive and [TS]

00:42:44   grow I really I love podcasting I i love it as a listener I love it as a producer [TS]

00:42:51   I love it as a programmer it is great there's tons of opportunity as a [TS]

00:42:55   programmer at as a listener I podcasters in my life I'm I'm an epochal center for [TS]

00:43:00   a long before I was really involved in them and I guess I gotta love listen to [TS]

00:43:05   podcasts I don't have to explain it to most people think this probably and also [TS]

00:43:09   as a podcaster I love the act of podcasting and I was I was kinda had [TS]

00:43:14   this tweet tweet storming of the call it when he just too much money I think [TS]

00:43:19   that's it you got it yeah it so I i treat all over the place earlier today [TS]

00:43:23   about I been holding back a lot from blocking recently because the [TS]

00:43:30   expectations and their reactions that you get out of blogging for me have [TS]

00:43:34   become just really negative I whenever I've blogged and anything substantial [TS]

00:43:39   recently I have often regretted it afterwards because the the the amount [TS]

00:43:44   and the type of attention that results from it is is not good for me it's it's [TS]

00:43:50   not pleasant it's it's not satisfying it actually just feel like a burden and it [TS]

00:43:55   resulted in a lot of misunderstanding a lot of attention a lot of flames and a [TS]

00:44:01   lot of sensationalism that that I just do not want blocking also takes a long [TS]

00:44:06   time no writing as difficult as it if you don't write you might I realize but [TS]

00:44:11   writing is really quite difficult and time-consuming especially if you're [TS]

00:44:14   trying to do it well it's very very hard to really do well if I wanted to do [TS]

00:44:20   things like if I wanted to write this as a blog post of just like hearing i'm [TS]

00:44:23   talking about how great podcasting as compared to blogging this would take me [TS]

00:44:27   probably four hours to write a blog post and it wouldn't say it is when I can in [TS]

00:44:34   a podcast I can basically with no preparation spew out random thoughts [TS]

00:44:39   like this for about four minutes and have it all covered and have expressed [TS]

00:44:44   pretty much all the same ideas [TS]

00:44:46   possibly even better in in a more informal way that [TS]

00:44:50   you people listening to this can hear me as a human being you know me from the [TS]

00:44:55   context of the rest of the show and for any other shows you listen to the live [TS]

00:44:57   in on you can give me the benefit of the doubt because you you have some sense of [TS]

00:45:01   my personality from this and it just it just a much more humane medium so with [TS]

00:45:07   podcasting I don't get many flames if I hardly ever get any kind of negativity [TS]

00:45:11   about things I say in a podcast unable to get out way more ideas per unit of [TS]

00:45:17   time effort put into it and it's it just feels better it's hard to explain in in [TS]

00:45:24   in full how how it feels but i just think for me it is right now more [TS]

00:45:30   natural communication floor mandame and a safer one because I'm kind of burnt [TS]

00:45:35   out on the negativity to make it whenever I write anything you know this [TS]

00:45:38   isn't to say I'm going to stop writing but I've certainly dramatically slowed [TS]

00:45:41   down and it's no coincidence as I do more podcasts I write less because I [TS]

00:45:46   just find podcasting works better for me right now and at this point in my life [TS]

00:45:50   yeah I agree I've really been phenomenally lucky to have been a part [TS]

00:45:56   of neutral love this show [TS]

00:45:58   analog my other show unreal a family that my curly good job casey you did [TS]

00:46:03   apply finally we keep setting up for the shot but it's both of you with a sports [TS]

00:46:11   metaphor I'm very proud of you both anyway so and I've been very thankful to [TS]

00:46:15   be a part of this and in to be able to participate in the end you know as we've [TS]

00:46:19   discussed some of the show and i've discussed quite a bit on an analog I I [TS]

00:46:24   have always felt some modicum of guilt for kind of having just found my way on [TS]

00:46:29   here by accident but but but no other communities be really good to me and [TS]

00:46:36   it's been a really phenomenal been phenomenally lucky to be a part of this [TS]

00:46:40   and in a part of the community that we are in maybe next year we can finally [TS]

00:46:45   convince you that like you didn't you aren't just like here accidentally like [TS]

00:46:48   you are a host of the show you are one of three host of the show you are not [TS]

00:46:53   just some guy who is stuck in a chair that I sit there while we thought [TS]

00:46:57   yea time scale perhaps I'll believe that but but anyway I can hear John rolling [TS]

00:47:03   his eyes right now we're all here accidentally is what I was thinking but [TS]

00:47:10   now but it's it's been a really phenomenal and and I couldn't i couldn't [TS]

00:47:14   be more thankful I was gonna make this job and really cheesy way but im gonna [TS]

00:47:17   say it genuinely I couldn't be more thankful to be doing it with you to find [TS]

00:47:21   gentleman and and and I'm really am so unbelievably proud of the work we've [TS]

00:47:26   done here and unbelievably thankful that it's gone on as long as it happened and [TS]

00:47:31   that any of you listening to this right now have have been stuck around in have [TS]

00:47:36   chosen as long as you have so thank you to you guys and to everyone listening [TS]

00:47:41   because this has been really phenomenal I think I'd write more if I didn't have [TS]

00:47:45   a job [TS]

00:47:47   amen brother Marcus Wright like you know if you podcast more like you can get a [TS]

00:47:53   lot of ideas out but you would otherwise have to to write up in the pockets as I [TS]

00:47:57   got my system you feel like you did you have something you just need to express [TS]

00:48:00   right but mainly for me I feel like it's just not enough hours in the day and [TS]

00:48:07   it's just so much more efficient to scramble for a couple minutes on a [TS]

00:48:11   podcast you feel like well got that out of my system when it would take longer [TS]

00:48:15   to write it in but I feel like if I had it in have to go to work every day I [TS]

00:48:21   have all the showers and I probably would do the thing that Marcos and [TS]

00:48:24   occasionally and so you know less so now that I might anything anymore [TS]

00:48:28   practically but like where you either talk about something on a podcast and [TS]

00:48:32   inspires you to write it up or you write something on your blog and that inspires [TS]

00:48:36   you to talk about on the podcast that that's energy I still enjoy I just never [TS]

00:48:40   have time for the part you write anything [TS]

00:48:45   fair enough as it is I make it my turn I take it does alright so I'd actually [TS]

00:48:51   this is a little bit of a cop out but I have other options as well I actually AM [TS]

00:48:55   super thankful for my big semi fancy camera I have an Olympus om-d cm10 which [TS]

00:49:02   is a terrible name it is a Micro Four Thirds camera and for a long time [TS]

00:49:06   especially after Marco and tippen and Aaron I got reacquainted after mark when [TS]

00:49:12   I lost touch for a long time I've always been jealous of what I'm looking for but [TS]

00:49:18   I've always been intrigued by really nice camera equipment in and be a novel [TS]

00:49:24   ways fancied myself like interested in photography but I wouldn't say I've ever [TS]

00:49:28   been particularly great at it but right before Dec was born we finally bought [TS]

00:49:32   this Micro Four Thirds camera which was a fair bit of money I mean it was [TS]

00:49:37   something like $15 for the camera and a couple under the body in a couple of [TS]

00:49:41   lenses and I wasn't sure if it was really worth it [TS]

00:49:44   and Aaron wasn't sure feels really worth it because you we had I think 6 and [TS]

00:49:48   iPhone 6 at the time which take it takes and took really great pictures but I am [TS]

00:49:54   so thankful for big digital cameras still being a thing because having a [TS]

00:50:01   camera with with glass that's bigger than a finger tip just makes for some [TS]

00:50:08   incredible pictures and it's been really it's been really awesome to see some of [TS]

00:50:13   the pictures I've been able to capture of not only Declan but my whole family [TS]

00:50:17   and extended family through this camera that really in the grand scheme of [TS]

00:50:20   things is not that terribly much money and so I'm extraordinarily thankful that [TS]

00:50:24   it exists and I'm extra extraordinarily thankful that I think that that i've [TS]

00:50:30   i've been able to that I bought one in there have been able to make some decent [TS]

00:50:34   pictures come out of this camera and so digital photography in general not just [TS]

00:50:39   live photos that that's yeah I'm still jealous of all your nice cameras but i [TS]

00:50:45   feel like im going two miles total library was gathering photos for holiday [TS]

00:50:51   things as you do and also pleased with the performance of prison [TS]

00:50:55   back enjoying the fact that I can grow and do stuff although I put an item in [TS]

00:51:00   the notes about my latest photo complaints they don't want to do that [TS]

00:51:05   for the last thing but to sit next week yeah but like as a swell backwards in [TS]

00:51:13   time towards like my oldest child but the baby you do see the quality of the [TS]

00:51:19   pictures go down I think it's going to be less pronounced for Declan because I [TS]

00:51:24   think like you know the the curves start it [TS]

00:51:27   level off a little bit because there's sort of the limit of the human visual [TS]

00:51:31   system and what feature sizes you can resolve a typical distances and blah [TS]

00:51:35   blah blah but we got our very first digital camera ever before my son was [TS]

00:51:42   born my first child and was not very good quality early days and you can [TS]

00:51:48   really see it so it's kind of a shame I can't go back in time with the fans are [TS]

00:51:52   Cameron I think about maybe I'm thinking the same thing now with the current [TS]

00:51:54   because I'm taking my kid with my camera that does not cost as much as a good [TS]

00:51:59   used car they're fine they're good but I can tell the difference between my [TS]

00:52:05   camera and a fancy camera like it's impossible not to be able to tell the [TS]

00:52:09   difference especially if if there is not a hundred percent Blazing Sun light on a [TS]

00:52:13   clear day then all of a sudden I can tell the difference so I'm very often do [TS]

00:52:17   consider buying fancy camera and maybe someday will but for now I'm limping [TS]

00:52:22   along with my so a superzoom cameras in my phone so that's not that bad I'm [TS]

00:52:28   trying to figure out what used car that's pretty good you could get for [TS]

00:52:31   $1,500 on the corner of course of course I John what else thankful for my next [TS]

00:52:41   item on the list is probably not surprising boring to everybody who is [TS]

00:52:45   tech nerd including both of you but I put them in this tiny babies that bill [TS]

00:52:49   like this was not the summer of George this was the year of big SSDs in my [TS]

00:52:54   house as he's been around forever to get it is the life of Bob time I am [TS]

00:53:00   I'm not interested in talking put all my stuff even fusion drive came out I think [TS]

00:53:04   was a really great idea and from all accounts is work really well Mike but [TS]

00:53:08   for me I should hold out for all my crap honesty remember on podcast many years [TS]

00:53:13   ago was this podcast was it some other one I was like hold out for one terabyte [TS]

00:53:18   SSD and I go good luck there's gonna be so expensive you can get one today but [TS]

00:53:21   it's like thousands of dollars I can be cheap but you know waiting awhile why [TS]

00:53:25   did I wait to really long time and eventually one terabyte SSDs became less [TS]

00:53:31   than ridiculously expensive still very expensive but as soon as they came down [TS]

00:53:35   in price looks like three the prices you know 500 $600 I got one for him and made [TS]

00:53:42   a big difference as you would imagine just doing this is the big thing for me [TS]

00:53:46   is that they are big that I can fit all of my stuff and the size of all my stuff [TS]

00:53:52   has changed a lot over the years and I like your is trying to keep the all my [TS]

00:53:58   stuff size somewhere within the bounds of economical hard drive size but [TS]

00:54:02   partners can exerting so big 21 terabyte terabytes retail but for a terabyte [TS]

00:54:06   spinning disk was like oh no I gotta make sure my stuff doesn't thoughtful [TS]

00:54:09   turns out my stuff has been growing more slowly and my stuff comfortably fits in [TS]

00:54:14   one terabyte snow avatar my guess is they want to go but the iMac is a [TS]

00:54:18   terabyte St and now finally the two main computer in the house are all of our [TS]

00:54:24   stuff on them and I'm very happy about it [TS]

00:54:27   yeah I held out a really long time before getting an SSD because the first [TS]

00:54:33   computer I had with an SSD was my old work computer which I got in the middle [TS]

00:54:39   of 2012 but was a late 2011 Santa Clara 15 inch MacBook Pro and I had always [TS]

00:54:46   thought as I often do with these things [TS]

00:54:50   shirts faster I'm sure it's great but it can't possibly make that much oh my god [TS]

00:54:55   it makes that much of a difference it it it's just night and day and because of [TS]

00:55:00   that I'm still rocking one of those identical computer that work one except [TS]

00:55:05   the platter hard drive as my personal computer [TS]

00:55:08   and I never touched the thing because it's just unusable because it has a [TS]

00:55:12   platter hard drive [TS]

00:55:13   get get yourself a nasty even if you get a little tiny one and you have to put [TS]

00:55:16   all your all your other data elsewhere just it makes a world of difference [TS]

00:55:20   definitely spend the money our final budget this week is bushel gonna bushel [TS]

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00:57:00   thanks a lot to bushel for sponsoring our show what's next for you so next to [TS]

00:57:05   me is slack interesting ok that's a good when I would have put that on there if I [TS]

00:57:10   had thought of it yeah I agree with that so first of all slackers really just [TS]

00:57:13   good at like you know as as a product slackers good it is like [TS]

00:57:18   when I first saw it I thought well that's just IRC [TS]

00:57:22   fancied up IRC and that's true it is just finished a piracy but it's really [TS]

00:57:27   good turns out by RCA is really nice feature is not that it's like fancied up [TS]

00:57:34   I received the key feature is that like it is a name brand company thing you can [TS]

00:57:39   get the slack app for the platform of your choice and it is slack our season I [TS]

00:57:43   guess you like the client just something I really know your client works just [TS]

00:57:48   type / something like this was like a client just to get slack and then you've [TS]

00:57:52   got it you have to worry about people figuring out all point and click an [TS]

00:57:56   unlimited amount of command-line silliness the NRC you know really it had [TS]

00:58:01   a lot of shortcomings compared to slacken not just the client thing but [TS]

00:58:04   just like the complexity of the the geeky roots of it it's and limitations [TS]

00:58:09   of it not being persistent on the class just it's not a IR si has a sports place [TS]

00:58:14   for sure but slacked us too and i think is by far the more friendly option of [TS]

00:58:19   the two and it also has way more features and it's pretty nice anyway so [TS]

00:58:23   I likes like a lot and I like that kind of lead to earlier I mentioned I was [TS]

00:58:29   kind of worn out from negativity that I've gotten from being so public online [TS]

00:58:34   slack allows me to have these small private groups of friends that things [TS]

00:58:40   that I would have previously posted to Twitter now a lot of those things are [TS]

00:58:44   going to slack and a lot of the conversations that I'm having a lot of [TS]

00:58:48   the Keeping Up with friends what they're doing a lot more of that is happening in [TS]

00:58:52   slack now then on Twitter for me and I think that's good because for so long we [TS]

00:58:58   had things on the web where we're like this the best communication method on [TS]

00:59:03   the web or so often public or semi-public Facebook where it's like [TS]

00:59:08   it's supposed to be private most of the time but sometimes you setting [TS]

00:59:11   everything public course from a default whatever it's nice to have something [TS]

00:59:15   that is private I do think there's a place for those things there's a balance [TS]

00:59:19   to be struck and it's you know just it's nice that we are we are willing to [TS]

00:59:24   explore that balance rather than just make everything public [TS]

00:59:28   and a driven on the entire internet and every way we communicate and so it's [TS]

00:59:33   nice having having slack for me has been a nice kind and gentle reprieve from [TS]

00:59:40   everything being in public because the fact is so many of my of my friends are [TS]

00:59:45   people who have met in this business people like you guys who work with who [TS]

00:59:50   who don't live near its like sit down and have lunch with you guys every day [TS]

00:59:55   you know I I work at home for myself you know i i had lunch with my wife and my [TS]

00:59:59   kids my dog the night my friend interaction or limited mostly to online [TS]

01:00:03   stuff so it's nice to have just like a kindly private safe place for that to [TS]

01:00:07   happen and now into psych provide that for me but from what I hear from a lot [TS]

01:00:12   of other people and provide that to lots of people it it doesn't just like a [TS]

01:00:16   desperate for Marco think like a lot of people you slack this way in small [TS]

01:00:20   groups with their friends and it's really great for that and i am just very [TS]

01:00:23   thankful if such a thing exists but is getting enough traction to be useful [TS]

01:00:28   the company of this is that as we record today slack was down for many people the [TS]

01:00:34   day to mention that but yeah doesn't matter this is done this is the first [TS]

01:00:38   time I've ever seen down to the honeymoon period before marcos and a big [TS]

01:00:42   roundabouts like being centralized thing controlled by a single company scurrying [TS]

01:00:46   all the clients and their API and pricing aw stock so enjoy it while I [TS]

01:00:52   know I'm being negative anyway I think everything that Marco said basically [TS]

01:00:56   like in the big continuum of between public in like I am as the the private [TS]

01:01:00   things like you know small group on Glee private message and public you have web [TS]

01:01:06   forums are comments or bulletin boards and later things like Twitter and stuff [TS]

01:01:10   like that and it's like as a nice middle-ground time to say no ground the [TS]

01:01:14   Google+ was going for but missed where it's not one to one like I am and it's [TS]

01:01:18   not in public or email that I is not in public like message boards or Twitter [TS]

01:01:23   it's in between and it's not the only downside of course is now they were all [TS]

01:01:27   we're all in a million different slacks because these in between things are sort [TS]

01:01:30   of self organizing groups of people around particular interest to [TS]

01:01:35   institutions or whatever and those circles overlap alot but we have to be [TS]

01:01:40   in all of them if you want to keep up with this offense that could prevent [TS]

01:01:42   that prevents that you're in three slacks that are that form is weird Venn [TS]

01:01:46   diagram sometimes I have trouble keeping track of what slack I said which is on [TS]

01:01:52   the same application that's one stupid single window working guys find more [TS]

01:01:59   windows more than one call me crazy but I lose track of where I said things in [TS]

01:02:08   which group of friends I said them to and who is on what page about what but I [TS]

01:02:13   think that's a good problem to have liked having this middle ground even [TS]

01:02:16   though that has meant one more place for me to check for things that have gone on [TS]

01:02:21   I am NOT a slack completionist so they don't have that problem but still I do [TS]

01:02:26   have to end its like to its credit gives you lots of really cool options for how [TS]

01:02:30   you want to be notified and about what [TS]

01:02:33   so sad that input on my list and now I'm the Marco stealing things from other [TS]

01:02:40   peoples this is a test I completely agree with black and and it doesn't [TS]

01:02:48   matter you know who your particular group of friends is or or whatever the [TS]

01:02:51   case maybe it's just having a group of people even be friends or family you can [TS]

01:02:56   communicate with often geographically [TS]

01:02:59   all over the place is just really fantastic and the thing that one of the [TS]

01:03:03   things I love about slack that that is in some ways ruined me for like iMessage [TS]

01:03:07   and other things is the rich text preview sort of you call them so if you [TS]

01:03:13   put a link to a tweet into a slack channel it will do its best to expand [TS]

01:03:18   that queen show you the contents of the tween maybe even a picture of those [TS]

01:03:21   media attached in oh my god I wish I could have that 44 I message that would [TS]

01:03:26   be so so useful and and I really love that peter it's such a silly thing that [TS]

01:03:30   makes a world of difference [TS]

01:03:32   yeah so it's my turn this is a weird one [TS]

01:03:35   I am super thankful for my lightning to HDMI adapter which he is a hard thing to [TS]

01:03:43   say but this past weekend as with many weekends in the fall [TS]

01:03:49   and I went to see the University of Virginia play football in his life who I [TS]

01:03:56   am actually a hokey which means I went to Virginia Tech we are big rivals just [TS]

01:03:59   go with the markup language stuff that cuts deep John so anyways we basically [TS]

01:04:12   we are big rival school so Marco this is like TIFF going to Michigan does it make [TS]

01:04:16   more sense to you yes that is the one sport rather than I am familiar with [TS]

01:04:20   simply because I grew up in Columbus so you can't you couldn't not know about [TS]

01:04:24   that one [TS]

01:04:25   funds that the correct answers actually Penn State but anyway the point is that [TS]

01:04:28   it just like OSU and pinch-hitter angles yet now Michigan and Michigan well know [TS]

01:04:38   you are right to say Michigan and Ohio State but in the same conference as Penn [TS]

01:04:42   State both my younger brothers went to Penn State so that's where my my my [TS]

01:04:46   association is but anyway so the point I bring this up because we went to a [TS]

01:04:52   sports ball so when we went tailgating over the years we've been doing this for [TS]

01:04:57   a few years now we've updated our tailgate setup from you know just a [TS]

01:05:02   grill to a grill and a kind of ok generator to a grill and a kind of fancy [TS]

01:05:09   generator and so grill generator and TV and this year it was this past weekend [TS]

01:05:17   actually it just so happened that my beloved Virginia Tech Hokies were [TS]

01:05:20   playing noon game that I really wanted to watch and the UVA game was at 3:30 [TS]

01:05:27   and so we were tailgating while that while the Hokies were playing and it was [TS]

01:05:32   on ESPN the problem with that is we have an over the air antenna that we bring to [TS]

01:05:36   the tailgate in its full each d so we can watch you know all the local [TS]

01:05:39   channels and Charles hill on each D in the middle of a parking lot basically at [TS]

01:05:45   the University virginia which is really incredible I'm thankful for that too but [TS]

01:05:49   in this case it was ESPN and so what I did was I got my phone and I plug my [TS]

01:05:55   phone into the Lightning teach you might after plugged-in HDMI cable from that [TS]

01:05:59   into the TV and we were able to watch my beloved Virginia Tech [TS]

01:06:02   cokie's lose as we're sitting in the middle of this parking lot at UVA which [TS]

01:06:09   is just i mean to think about it like I remember watching Nickelodeon as a kid [TS]

01:06:13   and watching like double tier and some of those games shows in you would see [TS]

01:06:17   that like the grand prize was this god awful terrible video phone but this was [TS]

01:06:23   like you know the early nineties and so you could probably only video dial like [TS]

01:06:27   two other people in the entire country but you know little postage stamp size [TS]

01:06:32   like black and white video phone and it was amazing and I remember thinking to [TS]

01:06:38   myself how could that possibly be that you could see video you know on a [TS]

01:06:42   telephone and then fast forward was at fifteen twenty years whatever the case [TS]

01:06:45   may be and I'm sitting in a parking lot with the full 32 inch TV showing a [TS]

01:06:51   picture that's coming off a cellular telephone like it's just ridiculous that [TS]

01:06:55   that's a possibility and so this little obscenely expensive $50 lightning to [TS]

01:07:00   HDMI adapter made all that possible that in my data which of course it was like [TS]

01:07:06   two weeks ago that I finally ditched my unlimited data plan perhaps not a good [TS]

01:07:09   choice but so it only cost me like two or three gigs of data for the two or [TS]

01:07:13   three hours we were watching the football game so I'm really thankful for [TS]

01:07:17   that you should take care all that booty once you get your new one duck taped to [TS]

01:07:21   the back your TV and get refund $50 cable that are coming to the price they [TS]

01:07:27   don't have a TV and then you can also charge your phone that makes it so much [TS]

01:07:30   better I was able to charge my phone because I one of the ports on the [TS]

01:07:35   Lightning to HDMI adapter is another lightning port [TS]

01:07:37   yes I passes through power and since we had a generator right there when I pass [TS]

01:07:43   through power to the phone which worked out really well I'm concerned about how [TS]

01:07:46   many fumes you're inhaling with this generator that's like running the other [TS]

01:07:52   people are as mister just been an appeal into it and then and now it's it's a [TS]

01:07:57   it's actually very very fancy generators not ours it's one of the guys who [TS]

01:08:00   tailgate with but it's an inverter generator so it it it emits a perfect [TS]

01:08:04   sine wave which is pretty cool [TS]

01:08:05   not talking about the different i know i understand you're saying it was just an [TS]

01:08:11   aside so but we we bring these fifty foot extension cords so that things like [TS]

01:08:15   that [TS]

01:08:16   away from us probably near somebody else is in the other air and into speaking [TS]

01:08:23   like where we tailgate is actually not it's it's not a parking lot where in a [TS]

01:08:28   little field in front of the Astronomy building a VA don't be creepy and so [TS]

01:08:32   it's late so small field and we try to point the generator pretty much away [TS]

01:08:36   from everyone else but it's it's not near us and yet I remain concerned just [TS]

01:08:41   like us have market coming to practice test text and use the big battery if I [TS]

01:08:46   would kill to have Marco come to a football game with me that would be [TS]

01:08:50   amazing but but now it's not quite that simple I think they would like to [TS]

01:08:55   generate power right so if you go there and in electric car with a huge battery [TS]

01:09:00   fully charged that'll that'll do for tailgating right probably maybe I mean [TS]

01:09:05   the TV we use his old so it's probably not very efficient but there are times [TS]

01:09:09   then we'll use like a griddle so for example this upcoming weekend it's our [TS]

01:09:13   big game it's it's Aaron steam in my team playing each other and this year [TS]

01:09:17   it's in Charlotte cells were gonna go and we are probably going to use a [TS]

01:09:22   griddle which is a heating element which which is you know a million watts and so [TS]

01:09:25   for that you'd probably want a generator because it would drain Marcus Phantom [TS]

01:09:30   test will in like three and a half seconds [TS]

01:09:32   think it would be I'm being a little facetious here but I still the math [TS]

01:09:36   someone the shower room get out the slide rule she well for one thing I know [TS]

01:09:40   that to charge a Tesla from like a 40 amp outlets though takes like 10 hours [TS]

01:09:46   you don't realize how much power they have a granite top perfect efficient [TS]

01:09:50   power but it takes a ridiculous amount of power to move a car like that you [TS]

01:09:56   should realize how much power to just buy the not even doing the math by [TS]

01:10:00   thinking about their taking this multi $1000 car and accelerating and [TS]

01:10:04   decelerating and pushing it through the win for you know three hundred miles [TS]

01:10:08   anyway this is the future of tailgating mark my words electric-powered pickup [TS]

01:10:12   truck so the entire bed as much I love him I'm batteries [TS]

01:10:15   you're probably right quick real-time follow up a quick things first of all it [TS]

01:10:20   occurred to me that tailgating is probably a uniquely American thing sure [TS]

01:10:23   hope so maybe Australians get across america light [TS]

01:10:27   ok see ya please email me I didn't mean that in an offensive way but I'm screwed [TS]

01:10:32   now anyway so what that means is so before a football game or a bowl game [TS]

01:10:37   depending on how you look at it a lot of times what people will do is they will [TS]

01:10:41   go to the parking lot outside the stadium they're going to and they will [TS]

01:10:46   consume adult beverages and you know it's kind of chat and hang out and grill [TS]

01:10:51   food in and eat food and do all the things you'd expect a bunch of Americans [TS]

01:10:55   to do but do it outside and so some people take a little more seriously like [TS]

01:10:59   we do and bring in generators they can watch other football games while they're [TS]

01:11:02   waiting to watch the football game they want to see that's so that's what [TS]

01:11:07   tailgating is and it did the etymology there is because oftentimes you'll hang [TS]

01:11:10   out around the tailgate of a pickup truck although neither of us a pickup [TS]

01:11:14   trucks and the other piece real-time follow-up it is not be let me teach you [TS]

01:11:17   might after the official name is lightning Digital AV Adapter which I [TS]

01:11:21   would have known had I done my homework so John your turn [TS]

01:11:26   think of something else we're going to do the next round with over coming to [TS]

01:11:30   the end of the show anyway so maybe we'll be at least one more wanna talk [TS]

01:11:33   about what can you get all the lightning round after this case is lining and I [TS]

01:11:39   know I was about to say I i I was too early on that one [TS]

01:11:42   this one should be easy to guess anyone who's been listening to me on this or [TS]

01:11:46   any other podcast the third item is destiny product not since quake 3 arena [TS]

01:11:54   and Unreal Tournament 2004 have spent this much time playing a single video [TS]

01:11:58   game I PlayStation 4 is essentially a destiny machine especially since I [TS]

01:12:02   removed from the television terrible burning reasons all I do is play destiny [TS]

01:12:09   played a lot and I'm afraid to look at the total number of hours recently about [TS]

01:12:13   that you would think it would get boring but you know obviously cinema most [TS]

01:12:17   airplane with other people and that extends life the games the same reason [TS]

01:12:20   quake 3 arena real tournament were [TS]

01:12:22   for so long because you are playing with other people so the game is much less [TS]

01:12:26   predictable than playing like a single player game or a game against [TS]

01:12:29   computer-controlled opponents because people are inscrutable [TS]

01:12:32   and kind of like went through an unreal tournament there is a steady flow of [TS]

01:12:37   content back in the old days it was maps that other people it makes you download [TS]

01:12:41   new apps for Quaker and new maps are unwilling to try them out sometimes the [TS]

01:12:46   new maps will come from the people who made the game's most the times not the [TS]

01:12:50   case of Destiny all new content coming from bundy but they've had a steady [TS]

01:12:54   stream of expansion is that yes you pay for but like I was saying about this [TS]

01:12:57   someone recently the dollar per hour of enjoyment I'm gonna destiny its ratio is [TS]

01:13:03   phenomenal [TS]

01:13:05   compared to pay homage anything else like it is 60 bucks in the game [TS]

01:13:08   expansion 40 bucks and expansion but do the division of the number of hours [TS]

01:13:12   you're like oh this is like the cheapest entertainment dollars ever so the [TS]

01:13:18   expansions really have kept it fresh for me and you know the the constant [TS]

01:13:22   adjustments to the game and the systems in the game and the items and everything [TS]

01:13:25   to Bungie is doing for just from week to week not just for the expansion for me [TS]

01:13:29   to be doing little tweaks here and there and explaining why they do them that's [TS]

01:13:32   an interesting sort of surrounding context for the game where there's the [TS]

01:13:37   game and then there's the talking about the game then there's the reading about [TS]

01:13:40   the future of things that are going on in the game and I think for the most [TS]

01:13:43   part but she has been keeping things moving in the right direction if you you [TS]

01:13:47   know questionable decisions that they're going back and forth on but 2.0 the big [TS]

01:13:51   2.0 change the entire game isn't really address the lot of the worst parts of [TS]

01:13:55   the progression system in the early game so destiny is my first MMO because I [TS]

01:14:01   generally hate him and I was but I really like first-person shooter games [TS]

01:14:04   and has really good first person shooter and as far as I can tell having never [TS]

01:14:08   played any emotion for I think it's really funny too so thumbs up on destiny [TS]

01:14:13   did you ever get into counter strike out of curiosity [TS]

01:14:17   it's not quite the same kind of but it is though it's it's a new plan so that [TS]

01:14:21   human beings and so it's much more interesting than playing by yourself [TS]

01:14:24   I i tend to stay away from the more militaristic first-person shooters that [TS]

01:14:30   just they've never really appealed to the closer they get to like real life [TS]

01:14:33   guns with not a real life you know gun aficionado so the closer they get to [TS]

01:14:38   realize comes in real life military I just find it off but even though [TS]

01:14:41   counter-strike still you know basically like you know like I guess they about [TS]

01:14:45   criterion and reserve it's basically a game of tag has very little to do with [TS]

01:14:48   actual guns but it's close enough that it sort of propels me a little bit which [TS]

01:14:53   is completely fantastical you know Space Marines or shooting aliens ur powered [TS]

01:15:00   armor whatever other weird stuff you've gotten franchises like Halo and Gears of [TS]

01:15:05   War kind of a guess but I tend to stay away from the military things and [TS]

01:15:10   destiny I guess technically they're kind of the military but it's really just [TS]

01:15:13   like lasers and ppl in space aliens only asked as i log out a time playing [TS]

01:15:21   counterstrike when I was at Virginia Tech and not doing the things I should [TS]

01:15:24   have been doing like study but I love to counter strike and I i love to the quake [TS]

01:15:29   as well as quick so long ago I think that was my jam but it was alright does [TS]

01:15:38   that mean already sponsors so I guess Marco wanna do your lightning round [TS]

01:15:41   entry it's it's a little bit silly mid-on list really cuz I'm I'm still a [TS]

01:15:47   little bit like 50 50 on how much I like it but the number 69 go with the Apple [TS]

01:15:54   watch because it really has driven a positive influence in my life and the [TS]

01:16:02   Apple watches this is another one of the blog post I keep trying to write and [TS]

01:16:06   star in to rate and failing to write to write my like Apple watch six months and [TS]

01:16:11   post of course now it's like seven months and I started writing on it was [TS]

01:16:15   three months in and and the Apple watch it's easy to get announced soon so he's [TS]

01:16:22   been here because I I do wear mine everyday i've i've tried going without [TS]

01:16:27   it for a few days [TS]

01:16:28   and I don't miss it as much as I think I would before I do it and there are parts [TS]

01:16:35   of it that haven't been as Dicky for me just because they aren't that reliable [TS]

01:16:39   and and what are the things that I like about it there's an asterisk after each [TS]

01:16:45   one I do love it for notifications I do love it for a very quick serious things [TS]

01:16:52   I do love it for the activity tracking and I do love having the weather thing [TS]

01:16:57   on the face and the other complications but all those things are kind of like [TS]

01:17:01   75% there so I just kind of tentatively there I'm very happy this product exists [TS]

01:17:08   but I I think it still needs a lot more work on both the hardware and the [TS]

01:17:13   software before it's very good but I do like where it is now and it had it did [TS]

01:17:18   something that I didn't think was possible which is it transform me into a [TS]

01:17:22   person as I mentioned when it was new I hadn't wanna watch you for this since [TS]

01:17:28   like high school now that we're in the cell phone revolution and to the point [TS]

01:17:32   of a watch but now they have one I like it a lot and so now I'm starting to look [TS]

01:17:36   at other watches that don't have screens and don't have batteries another [TS]

01:17:42   expensive hobby is a great yeah and I'm starting to like take joy in the day in [TS]

01:17:49   the design of nice watches and that's kinda nice you know so we'll see what [TS]

01:17:55   happens but but I like the Apple watching generally it's a it's a good [TS]

01:18:00   product I wouldn't say it sincerely a great one yet but it is a good product [TS]

01:18:04   now and it has given positive change my life so I appreciate that you know it's [TS]

01:18:09   funny you bring that bring up the Apple watches your lighting round entry [TS]

01:18:12   because my red lightning round entry is the Apple is going to say the exact same [TS]

01:18:17   thing and I think the piece that is is most startling to me is the [TS]

01:18:24   notifications which you brought up a moment ago I haven't heard my phone [TS]

01:18:30   except when I've accidentally turned the ringer back on since I received my Apple [TS]

01:18:35   watch which was what may or something like that so I haven't heard my phone [TS]

01:18:40   since then and I think that's a good thing and I i had even before the Apple [TS]

01:18:46   outside cold a lot of my notifications in in brought that number way way way [TS]

01:18:49   down and you know I turned off a lot of 24 notifications turned off [TS]

01:18:52   notifications a lot of those that I really didn't need to be notified about [TS]

01:18:57   turned off and even with all of those notifications off you haven't turned [TS]

01:19:03   those back on since I've gotta watch but even what remains things like text [TS]

01:19:07   messages or emails from VIPs or what have you [TS]

01:19:10   nobody else has to know when that stuff is happening I get a nice little tap tap [TS]

01:19:15   tap on my wrist and that's that and I really really really love that I too [TS]

01:19:21   have in my list of things to do my six months and now seven months in Apple I [TS]

01:19:27   too have been procrastinating because I haven't figured out what my angle is [TS]

01:19:31   really but I completely concur with you that especially for a device that as [TS]

01:19:37   with most things I hemmed and hawed about I'm really glad I got it I love it [TS]

01:19:42   so much for just keeping that that noise clutter out of my life and yes of course [TS]

01:19:48   I'm still getting notified about these things but I don't know just having it [TS]

01:19:52   be silent I just like so much begin in a bit just because I feel like it's kind [TS]

01:19:56   of disrespectful to have your devices bringing in bombing well while other [TS]

01:20:01   people are around and I just love that pissed that my phone has been silent [TS]

01:20:05   since May and that's really awesome God that I'm so now I'm so glad I was gonna [TS]

01:20:12   say if you two had not mention the Apple actually would've been weird to have to [TS]

01:20:17   have us none of us mention Apple's you know new product line that you know like [TS]

01:20:22   the the big thing that the latest big thing I wuv wishing I was also mentioned [TS]

01:20:27   but the latest big things from apple the Apple large come towards the end of [TS]

01:20:32   Arles I really wouldn't put it on mine mostly because the avalanche has not [TS]

01:20:37   change the fact that I am NOT a person I do not like things that I rest my wife [TS]

01:20:42   only real-time heckling me about how often I forget to put my watch and my my [TS]

01:20:47   plan what I've done my plan to always wear to work but I very often forget [TS]

01:20:52   when I do wear to work I find it convenient just like a little tap tap on [TS]

01:20:56   the wrist to you know to be able to have it cracked like even though I don't do [TS]

01:21:02   it market doesn't like actually trying to fill the circles and stuff I do like [TS]

01:21:05   to get the stand-up reminders and I do make a little bit of extra effort to be [TS]

01:21:09   more mobile network is that basically reminds you like it's like I was outside [TS]

01:21:13   run various times R Us iraq your mind you hey I know you're kind of like in [TS]

01:21:17   the zone on some issue but remember to get up and just like the refill your [TS]

01:21:22   water covered cannot take a walk around or do something else and I do find it a [TS]

01:21:28   specially convened [TS]

01:21:31   so I don't have to do anything on my phone even without a sitting on the desk [TS]

01:21:35   it just seems so much and even with HID seems like so much more of an effort to [TS]

01:21:39   pick the things up but my thumb thing on my incredibly slow iPhone 6 without the [TS]

01:21:44   S [TS]

01:21:44   the way those extra to go on we're going to watch none of that is involved in a [TS]

01:21:50   look at it and and Apple pan the watch I find it all so much nicer than doing i [TS]

01:21:54   will pay on the phone I do it like a plan to use it whenever whenever [TS]

01:21:57   possible can I use that will pay and double tapping the watch is nicer than [TS]

01:22:01   again putting the phone new thing and trying to the thumb piano is not ready [TS]

01:22:04   mytouch I D and then just automatically so I wouldn't put it on my list because [TS]

01:22:10   it is just reinforce that I'm not a white person I know I can also say that [TS]

01:22:13   the watches like something that I guess I wouldn't have bought it on my own [TS]

01:22:19   cause I did buy it on my own but it was kind of like well I should probably buy [TS]

01:22:23   it to see what all the fuss is about like it's kind of like I bought it for [TS]

01:22:27   work work being this podcast whereas I was another podcast and wasn't writing [TS]

01:22:30   that text up I probably wouldn't have voted in the end I'm so glad I bought it [TS]

01:22:35   but I'm let's put it this way I'm not going to rush out to buy the next [TS]

01:22:39   version of the Apple watch probably wait a couple revisions and targets way that [TS]

01:22:43   it is I think a lot of my reasons the watches not the Apple I essentially for [TS]

01:22:47   watches in general I just don't like things I rest of the smaller and lighter [TS]

01:22:51   and less like an Airstream trailer [TS]

01:22:53   that's right I know I said it earlier but it would really be wrong of me not [TS]

01:23:02   to say thanks to all our listeners more time in our sponsors as well as the [TS]

01:23:05   thank you to our listeners in two or three sponsors Squarespace automatic and [TS]

01:23:10   bushel alright and we will see you next week we doing a tag team I got the I [TS]

01:23:16   love with you will see you next week do you say we will see we don't actually [TS]

01:23:20   see them I do say that thank you for ruining it now [TS]

01:23:24   alright it's fine I just want to overthink it now the show they didn't [TS]

01:23:33   even mean to be in accidental accidental [TS]

01:23:42   Casey [TS]

01:23:45   it was fun and a team Marco [TS]

01:24:28   there was also a good idea john i do want to add one more kind of bonus 1 [TS]

01:24:34   year ago so one is the Apple pencil and this is a really short one because it's [TS]

01:24:40   you know it's easy when you say you know what the best of the year the stuff that [TS]

01:24:43   he most recently tends to be more weight in your mind so I don't know what I mean [TS]

01:24:48   I think long-term about it but the a pencil is really cool and yes the Apple [TS]

01:24:52   TV is also knew the Apple TV i think is more of a mixed bag in terms of [TS]

01:24:55   complexity and some of its remaining shortcomings and everything but the [TS]

01:25:00   intensively only does one thing and it does that one thing already today from [TS]

01:25:05   day one and it does it shockingly well once you can find one but it and it is [TS]

01:25:12   so good and it's so nice to use that it is making me keep borrowing tips iPad [TS]

01:25:18   Peru and keep wishing I had more of a reason to use this pencil because I am [TS]

01:25:24   NOT a visual artist I don't illustrate things I don't make diagrams I don't [TS]

01:25:29   take notes I I don't really have a good reason to use it but I wish I did [TS]

01:25:34   because it's just so pleasant and delightful and just like technically [TS]

01:25:39   satisfying like I know how good it is like it's it's also nice to use so what [TS]

01:25:44   are you doing with it I'm just playing around maybe I should start trend take [TS]

01:25:48   notes on things I don't know I don't know right now just player and the [TS]

01:25:52   second thing is Tesla I don't own a test yet I'm planning on buying one soon but [TS]

01:25:59   I don't own one yet but one thing I like about Tesla and they eating 2015 nearly [TS]

01:26:03   came into their own with this that you know in the absence of Steve Jobs now [TS]

01:26:09   the world is kind of low on genius billionaire is that are kind of near the [TS]

01:26:15   tech industry that are making things really interesting for everybody and [TS]

01:26:18   it's fun to be in one of those groups like it's fun it was fun to be a fan of [TS]

01:26:23   Apple when steve was really at its peak between 4:30 before he died but it's fun [TS]

01:26:30   to be a fan of a crazy billionaire company that's doing crazy good things [TS]

01:26:37   jeff has always almost been that kind of person but [TS]

01:26:40   not that kind of person Steve Jobs definitely was and i think you must have [TS]

01:26:44   that kind of person and where ya he's he's out of his mind but is also a [TS]

01:26:49   genius and he also is very different to keep making really interesting products [TS]

01:26:55   that are pushing things forward in the in this area that the team that is [TS]

01:26:58   working it and so i think i think what Tesla is doing is really cool even if I [TS]

01:27:05   don't end up buying one which will buy one I have pretty much decided that now [TS]

01:27:09   but it's just really cool to be in one of those fandoms of these kind of [TS]

01:27:16   products but he's crazy billionaires again because they they do things that [TS]

01:27:19   seem so audacious and when when they do them well it's really nice and an apple [TS]

01:27:27   did it well and now Tessa seems to be doing it well and so that's vertical [TS]

01:27:30   Activision is kind of like a crazy billionaire Mishra destiny wow very good [TS]

01:27:39   for Activision they are simply crazy [TS]