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00:02:48 ◼ ► how frequently Apple updates the Apple TV and and even just given I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/168">TS</a>]
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00:02:57 ◼ ► of RAM do so and that's what makes a difference for games with like large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/177">TS</a>]
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00:03:06 ◼ ► anyone thinking that the Apple TV will eventually be more powerful than the ps4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/186">TS</a>]
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00:03:54 ◼ ► your TV with no fan little tiny enclosure that's not even made of metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► it's gonna be pretty hard to get you know maybe he tapped out of that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/238">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► look at the game console and they had these big hot ship these big loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► annoying fans especially in their first generation before the due process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/247">TS</a>]
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00:04:17 ◼ ► Hot Chip with a big loud fan on it and the Apple TV will still need to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► cheap families box running year or two old iPhone cuts and their and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/261">TS</a>]
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00:04:29 ◼ ► came out of you that someday they'll be a little black box with no fans and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► more powerful than the ps3 you like it out here but here we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► its huge gap between the ps3 now so like just family's thing is always going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/277">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► lag behind the thing with fans by at least a generation in and not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/283">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► processing power as much as just capacity for large you know games like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/290">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► having all that RAM is important for putting the big console games on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/295">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► for the for the big textures and all I know the stuff and if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► that Ramdev you have to weigh like the ps3 didn't have a lot to a lot of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► part of the reason that the Apple TV can imagine these days it's because ps3 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► very strange architecture and relatively ramstein but the ps4 is not RAM starved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/310">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► it's got tons of RAM and it's got tons of hard drive space which is not as fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► as an SSD when you're you know freeloading levels and stuff it's fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► enough to stream clubs anyway I don't I'm definitely not looking for the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/324">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► TV to catch up and pass the ps4 unless I guess there is no BS five and then wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► around until we can get a ps4 in a little box thing but I really think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► this point that probably will be a PSI biggest the ps4 is doing pretty well for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/338">TS</a>]
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00:05:49 ◼ ► to not have follow-up at all I don't even know what to make of this bloody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/349">TS</a>]
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00:09:11 ◼ ► not just one thing goes wrong multiples one of the things that went wrong is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► that Apple updated their certificate for this recede to use a better encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/555">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► of a strong encryption they'd been using previously and it just so happens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/561">TS</a>]
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00:09:44 ◼ ► stronger corruption and as a bug in the Mac App Store where even if a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► certificate is issued after the Obama has expired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► some caching issue locally on the max that makes it not take the new even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/591">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► though the old one expired and so what people were getting was they were trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/598">TS</a>]
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00:10:39 ◼ ► the certificate expired and even though Apple had issued a new uneven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► application might have been able to use that new one to validate that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► was going on the local operating system was telling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/645">TS</a>]
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00:11:06 ◼ ► and stuff I'm not entirely sure what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/666">TS</a>]
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00:11:12 ◼ ► the caching issue in the future but I can help people who had this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/672">TS</a>]
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00:11:20 ◼ ► embarrassment mean so is the official statement they give which came pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/680">TS</a>]
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00:11:32 ◼ ► something to developers and they also they also gave a PR statement to sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► like I'm more into in a show notes this is a Apple is a lot of things they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► they don't put bad news or reactions to things on their own site you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► they'll send the same PR statement to like you know known friendly Apple sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► and have them all basically reported an apology behalf for them to the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/710">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► doesn't have to like soil their site with any kind of negative PR so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► statement they gave was I think it was a lot of BS and some truth there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/718">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► planned event and most users experienced no issues however some use experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/725">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► some issues during this change now that because the nature of this problem I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/731">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► think most users that is complete BS the idea that most users experience no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/738">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► issues and only some people had only some problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► know how it is there any way that Apple could know the actual answer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► because the Apple is not tracking I'm assuming how often we launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► applications and stuff so I don't think anyone really knows the scope of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► problem I you know I don't know I don't know honestly but but the fact is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/762">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► know this PR statement is trying to minimize the issue but if you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/766">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► know everyone is just guessing based on stories they've heard right I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► that's true I mean I suppose they could know like how many people get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► certificate server right i mean they can estimate an estimated from life support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/779">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► load because you can do some math and say if we get X numbers of your calls to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► this issue that means why people really had this issue you know just based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► historically speaking how many people will go to the phones are going to email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► about a particular issue you can kind of back at the envelope figure out based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► previous problems that you did have better metrics on my nose and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► using is like do you know somebody who had this problem with their computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► can say I didn't I actually did encounter the problem of many my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► computer but then again I tend to avoid buying applications and Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► but I do have some for example slap a broader than a Gap store and I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► every day and I had no problem with it is it because I'm always running it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► if you're like if you're running it and the certificate expires in August [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► probably the only to quit and launch it but I'm pretty sure I did clinton lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► during that window in heaven restarted so anyway I had zero problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/827">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► Casey had a problem some people had tons of problems I had many problems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► stories with the show the dialog box like 500 dialog box is popping up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► things anyway that the bottom line is that this was a problem that could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/838">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► potentially affected every single user is never purchased anything in the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► App Store that and it and it probably affected a lot of them because who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► know I maybe I just got lucky but like conceptually speaking this is you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/853">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► need a weird set of circumstances to trigger this problem I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/858">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► just need to have purchase things in a cab store to have your system cache the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/862">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► old city and then to launch them at the new one has been issued a check point at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/867">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► slack probably does not do receive validation on lunch because the free app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/873">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► care so the only after receiving outpatient would would have had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/878">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► problem I'm trying to get the Mac App Store apps I have I guess I have Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/883">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► you know pages and all that stuff from Iraq speed and that I tend not to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/888">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► the Mac App Store and that's that the second factor in this which is things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► like this especially for people who have no idea why this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► make them feel worse about the Mac App Store and people who have any clue about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/902">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► the details of the Mac App Store this widely make them avoid it more than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► did in the past I am avoiding it for a variety of reasons mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/910">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► they're you know the applications I use even when they were on the negative like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► BBEdit I never bought the Mac App Store version because it was crippled by Sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► boxing because of Apple's rules over have a choice between buying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► crippled sandbox version and the non crippled version and another nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► crippled version gives more money to the developer by the Niagara provision every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► time so it's what I've always done if there's any choice the one that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► Mac App Store it's always been like that's convenient you know I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/934">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► that much about it it's not a big deal or it's free like slacker whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► know it's more convenient than going to direct download it like I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► have the experience where I just go to one place and see all my apps and auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► update them know that is something I'd like those features the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► but perhaps they really count I'm definitely buying them outside but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► people who were more towards the Mac App Store the like you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/954">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► convenience is more important to me than like giving more money a developer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/958">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► the allegations I use don't suffer many soundbytes any issues and I really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► auto-update knows his stuff never mind the most Mac outside for the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/965">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► Store already using spark or something like that anyway for people who know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► about these details this is going to make them think twice because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► like before the tradeoff is worth it to me I will buy from the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► because the convenience is worth it to me for further potential downsides but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► now they're weighing that can be very versus like you know this day when all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/983">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► your absolute launch and you gotta figure out what the problem is and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/990">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► both short-term and long-term for the Mac App Store which is already not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► particularly beloved institution as far as developers and tech-savvy users are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► concerned that's the problem i mean it there's there are so many reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► already why you might want to be hesitant about buying the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► and why developers might want to be hesitant to be in the Mac App Store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► to just to add one more thing the pilot just a really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► and for that and it just seems like you know there is there's a good post by is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► it is it Michael Tsai and he he he made a post called there's nobody minding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► store is basically like you know collecting all these quoted everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► and pointing out just like the Mac App Store is just so neglected and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► been since its introduction you know the iOS App Store has its own set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► problems but the Mac App Store is so much worse in almost every way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► the fact that has a bug you know a certificate that's like one of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► problems with it that's only the most recent problem with it the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► itself the Mac App Store application is a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► the the sandboxing issues have pushed out tons of good apps Mac after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► developers I i really feel sorry for the man and if I were launching a Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► I'm not sure I would put their like if you would have asked me a year ago if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► was on a Mac output in the App Store I'd say yeah probably you know what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► with myself distributing it so he appeared in the App Store but today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► don't think I would it just seems like it's not worth all of the downsides and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► costs it really depends if I was doing a Mac App I would say it really depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► what kind of a bad is because if it's a small apt if it's free yepper is an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► that you think will never be impacted by Sam boxing and you just don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► deal with you no corroborating sparkle and putting up your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► and point for that and making sure it's up for the updates and doing payment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► processing yourself and although the stuff that you have to do if you did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► direct sales records say you you don't have an existing channel for direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► sales esophagus or not established software company or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► definitely convenient to use the Mac App Store but if your app in App that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► wasn't true for even one of those things like could buy a potentially be impacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► by Sam boxing don't you know don't get the Mac App Store do already have a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► to accept money from people I don't need to make up store for that they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► know how to incorporate itself auto update and have a robust framework for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► doing that already have a website that have to keep up with so I can put an end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► than just you know there's no point if you feel like those things that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► I'm not actually mad developers I don't know but part of a part of this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► recent round of Mac App Store stuff in the TechNet circles with developers said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► reiterating see guys this is why I'm not in the maggot star and users like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► dayside thing writing out all the list of all the great Mac apps that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► in the Mac App Store like the Mac App Store even though many people think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► it as the only and best and single place to get back software a lot of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► software that uses really love love the best Mac software is just not on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► App Store and obviously that's not true and I West because it's pretty much all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► the software and I was on the App Store so it's always been in a comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► position with the Makassar because there is an alternate we all want there to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► an alternative that means the Mac App Store actually has to compete in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► same way that the iTunes Music Store had to compete against piracy the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► Store has to compete against direct sales and applications that can be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► powerful and do more powerful things and it's currently losing that competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► and even as a user everything and everything about the Mac App Store from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► a user perspective has gotten worse over time you know first when he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► chanting sandboxing you know that not only put out a lot of apps that made us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► home now we have to like exchange our license to go down to the directors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► everything so that that was a pain for for people who bought in early to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► App Store and then when simpson came in now like I hate sandbox ABS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► from the user side to use the guy I have a couple of one of them is called space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► kremlin it helps like finally earlier just basis and you know it has to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► your whole hard drive and the convoluted hoops that applicants have to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► click this button choose the root folder and every time you gotta like redo it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► know now it can't look at files that it's such a pain and FM user perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► just like sandboxing is I don't understand the Security benefits of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► but if it's a very rarely used opt in system those are all those are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► limited and I don't think it's worth it as I really don't like the way it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► way to Mindanao and it's incredibly you know half-baked and seemingly completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► neglected way I don't want it as a user has one more thing and Essendon you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► like this receipt validation bug that made all my apps just break all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► sudden like that's a big problem this what reason do I have as a user to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► more after the Mac App Store after all the problems and and you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► getting worse I i don't i don't see a good reason anymore but you stuck out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► there can be no reason like the plate one place you can go for the updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► it's easy to buy things there I wish the Mac App Store should also make it easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► to install but they don't really but beyond that like this all the pros are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► still there but the conscious keep stacking up in the constant go and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► same boxing thing really like the main problem with that aside from all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► bugs and all the other things that the poor Mac developers had to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► about how you know I was gets better tools for crash reports and debugging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► and betas and testified know those anyway aside from all of that Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► Store sandboxing like ISSN boxing and everyone gets along with it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► entire system the entire operating system the entire way of using the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► been built around the ideas and bison witches you know problems for data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► sharing and silly like URL schemes to get around all these things like still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► has some problems but it fits with the system on the Mac sandboxing flies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► the face of the entire history of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► platform and if you put sandboxing in that environment it it doesn't fit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1374">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► if your app happens to fit into a little nice and I think you're fine but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► whole classes of applications good useful applications that don't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► within sandboxing and it's like it's almost like Apple saying we really rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► really wish that you didn't have to have at like this on your Mac we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► really wish the Mac was like I was and so they say maybe we make all the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► apps PC and box then the Mac will be just like the iPhone but it's not and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► demarco just mentioned you know Sean Reilly disk spaces could have like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► System Preferences a disk space usage thing that did the same thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► part of the operating system like settings is on and I they could but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► don't and Mac users do have to manage a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► storage and automatic because of the way it is it's difficult to tell where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► that space is going because you have a lot of files and folders and although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► the stuff that again is not usable and I was so there is a place for applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► that do this type of thing same thing for like dis duplicate things like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► duper and stuff that's the thing you don't have to do with pounds because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► they've always had like love that the cloud backup now and are you back them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► up the iTunes will just push the problem on your Mac or whatever you going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► for the Mac we need a way to back it up and doing descanses a useful thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► and this client software needs to read the entire disk of course and sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► makes it a pain it can be done but it's a it's a big super pain so you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► like you can't make the mac as safe as iOS by merely just sayin applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► have to be sandbox all you can do is say some applications will be sandbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► it's good for them like it is a benefit to the user to have applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► can get outside their little pen and that they somehow get exploited or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► broken or there's a bug in them or whatever they can do less damage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► that other class of applications is never going to go away so long as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► Mac still is like it is long as the neck is still let you know an old style PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► operating system so I don't see what they can do about the tension of them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► you know make a tiered system and say sandboxes you can give you a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► label and store your sandbox and label if you're not instead they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► stubbornly saying everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► the sandbox and if you can work in the sandbox we don't want your kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► application on our platform and at least the tech-savvy users are saying you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► not want that kind of application on the platform but I want that location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► because I does useful things for me and so you make it no longer useful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► you'll never need to close this again because all your data is magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► backed up using quantum entanglement something great for you make it like iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► and you know with no local backup option everything is a cloud backup are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► gotta give me some way to do all these things that are into something symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► BBEdit where the text editor wants to be able to have like a file browser without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► throwing a stupid open save dialog box in your face that you know the power box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► thing to let you convince the system that you're allowed to access these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► files like you know a program-best I'll text editor when you browse the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► process is a useful thing to have because the Mac is a system that lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► you have files and folders and exposed to a file system and you can't deviate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► it is not useful if you can find to like a sandbox like environment all you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► doing is pushing the noise under the user to do silly things in the UI to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► convince the system that yes please let me be added to the text files no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► where they are in need to go you said he would it be nice if if Apple had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► included something like spacecraft later my preferred at daisy dukes have you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► seen about this Mac and then the storage have which is super useful and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► telling me that of the three quarters of a terabyte I have fall about half of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► is either the usage visa denial is not very granular but at the granular on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► level that I S Works perhaps you don't have direct access to managing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► storage there it's like all you can do about it is delete an app and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► goes with it maybe some apps you can go into the appetite to lead videos or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► whatever you know but the granularity of the information provided by the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► thing and iOS matches the granularity of the way you use iOS moralist the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► idea the Mac for good or for ill is files and folders you know let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► you how much as music how much as video and how much is a giant yellow bar for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► wonder how comes up with that a is not even a useful as I can be just not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► way the Mac works I need to know like I use it all the time especially backhand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► upgraded my computer shit 256 gig as a state and I would need to like hunt down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► you know some episode of My Little Pony that I didn't know her daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► downloaded iTunes today get out of the iTunes folder and delete the damn thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► you know and you can do that sometimes some of the night but you know even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► discovered that many people make that the virtual memory sleep image can push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► your disk space unlimited right because when you get a machine with a lot of RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► and a small SSD that really hard questions like do I really need the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► know the Hibernate functionality justice able to use old South Bend is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► hope that it doesn't run out of battery was only answer it's really ugly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► don't know what I when I saw that one password which just so happened to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► the first thing that that reared its ugly head when I saw that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► broken or well not broken but I saw that have been brought about the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► Store I realized what was happening very quickly but that was only because I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► seen some passing references to it on Twitter RSS what have you if I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► right the dialogue though said something like oh this is all broke go free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► download it and it doesn't even spell it says this application is damaged and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► should move into the trash right exactly and so the solution is free download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► from the Mac App Store the process of doing so they couldn't have made it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► obtuse and and manual if they tried like that's the thing is that you know I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► of know what I'm doing when it comes to using a computer I can't imagine someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► who doesn't follow this stuff I mean it's not that hard to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► Applications folder and drag it to the trash then go back to Mac App Store but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► that dialogue to your point Marco didn't really make it clear what the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► order of operations are corrected tasks was to fix this issue and it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► was like one of you said it was a disaster from top to bottom it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► disaster all the way down and and it's a little frustrating that the most Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► did was say well you know screwed up but we'll fix it don't worry you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► dialog box they have all the information on the system to fix that in one breast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► if the system things that the application damages should be thrown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► there could be one button that says would you like me to redownload this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► cause I know exactly what it is and I know that you purchased it and I can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► in the trash and I can be downloaded for you because I know everything about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► the guineas like that the same thing with uninstall I get the install process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► really is drag it to the trash was not a big honking uninstall button in the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► a lot of his neglect of just like things they could do and they don't do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► speak in the collect our tipster in the chatroom insist loudly and has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► since this time that's happened at this bug about the certificate cashing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► already been reported there's already a radar for it and it's been around since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► I was 10 10.6 that's uncomfortable and has not been texting again it's tips or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► information so take with a grain of salt but there's not but it's it's the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► know it feels bad when your platform is not getting attention and various times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► Apple has ignored the Mac and then sell it said that like you know we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► care about the Mac were paying a lot of attention to end done lots of important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► things to the Mac but they're still areas particularly around the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► Store especially as it compares to the regular App Store that just feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► neglected and you know how many people do you think are actually tasked with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► working on this kind of thing that Apple right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► like you know Apple's teams are always lots more than you think they are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► apple also has has this cut this very frequent habit that from what I hear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► where engineers get pulled off with things all the time to go work on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► new projects need more engineering resources that is a newer thing or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► important to the current direction of the company or current business goals so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► people can move around the time and there is usually you know either nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► left working on boring stuff at the Mac App Store or a surprisingly small staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► like it might be like a handful of people doing some things have like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► person working on me know it's so a bug like that like it's it's not that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► the Mac App Store staff just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► you know is so big that they were it's more likely that almost no one's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► on this and that like an Apple keeps having problems like this where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► boring old stuff gets these kinda like either gets ignored forever and bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► like this around four years or he gets like these drive-by updates like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► it's all things like Discovery Day is a perfect example of this but we hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► El Cap USB stack might be something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► certainly we're hearing that the account Disk Utility is probably something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► this where it's kind of a drive by update where somebody is finally allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► to work on it and told to like you know revamping cleaning up a rewrite it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► something and you get like one pass it and what comes out is like 75% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► functional and then that person is gone incentive to work on something else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► it like this this is not the recipe for quality at all it's the complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► opposite of what you should be doing and it is not even an efficient way to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► an engineering organization Michigan some of the hundred developers Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► who don't have time to make an iPad up for Twitter cut itself which is set for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► all the people lost their jobs but they had and still do have a very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► number of people i mean to some degree I can kind of explain what we're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► understand that they've got a server-side components everyone everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► throws a big developer numbers of these companies they envision all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► working on the iOS app when Shirley perhaps the majority of them are working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► on backend stuff but the number of developers in these large BC funded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► companies hire lots of really smart people to work on one or two flagship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► mobile applications and then you compare them to the like one or two person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► independent shops writing competing third-party applications like how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► his Twitter have literally 100 iOS developers making their their iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► terrific has two people and you look at the two applications and you think their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► peers like they seem about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► right one of them is made by the company that makes the thing and it made by two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► guys and so I just a middleman month at a certain point adding more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► doesn't help and then you know this committee syndrome and people are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► know you can actually make any changes whitewater to its credit has been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► that they're trying to you know become more efficient or whatever but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► seems to have the opposite problem we're like Marco said every story we hear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► you know there's actually one guy who's responsible for these three applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► and to give her release he does to minor updates each one fix some bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► Crashers first and everything else at this time and there's gotta be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► in the middle there where you have a reasonable number of people empowered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► make good decisions to not just make a product but to continue to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► year after year after year like the hard way teams surely it's not like they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► the you know the iPhone for a center said every year let's make my time do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► anything except for to fix a broken home button right now to make a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► phone and they go you know the hardware gets better and better and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► the software depending on what it is can spend years without really moving inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► yet the Mac does have a lot of applications and some don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► change much year after year even when we feel like they should like maybe it's ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► the terminal application doesn't change dramatically from year to year but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► Mac App Store that everyone agrees has all these problems should really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► getting more attention on Xbox of this week is mail route mail route really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2118">TS</a>]
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00:35:27 ◼ ► to your email or your server so that net / 18 this works around the service that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► you put between your email server or your e-mail service like fast bowler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► whatever you put them between that and the internet so your redirect your MX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► records to them they deliver clean spam filter emailed directly to your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► hosts I viewed as myself now for about a year I think and it is amazing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► never seen spam filtering this could I use this I recommend this personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► they can't pay me to say that they can payment every their script they cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► pay me to say that I use it and I recommended I use this I recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► I was skeptical at first I'll tell you I was very skeptical of putting some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► service in front of my email because email is very important for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► things and I i recognize that and so I was skeptical for a while and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► I tried it blew me away how good it was it removed any doubt I've never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► problems with them and the performance of the city of their spam filtering is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► really something else I have never seen anything like it I have tried so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► server-side rules most email hosts including fast mail have lots of spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► filtering options on server side you can do it made them can get quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► sophisticated honestly but even they were never as good as when I get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► mail route today and we have to put almost no effort into it whatsoever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► cannot recommend it highly enough so if you care about such things they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2205">TS</a>]
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00:36:54 ◼ ► pound relay anything if you run a mail server anything that you probably need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► for your business for yourself you can be dramatically useful to people who run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► their own servers as you can really cut back on the resources on your servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► and probably even the number of servers you have your own a big companies email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2226">TS</a>]
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00:37:33 ◼ ► ok so the long national nightmare is over you have acquired an apple pencil I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► have yes we have the iPad pro and we have the front smart cover only cause I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► couldn't i couldn't bring myself to spend $140 to cover the back as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► could face up to $400 buying a pencil so we now have iPad pro and the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► pencil and I love using the iPad Apple pencil however I am not much of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► artist I wish I had more reasons to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► fortunately my wife is an artist and does use it and she's had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► experience with it so please welcome on the show our return guests Tiffany are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► meant I'm not an artist a dabbler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► the artist formerly known as to assure you you're much better artist than I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► i know john has doubled in the past as well as I won't speak for him on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► certainly better than me and I think it's safe to say better than Marco so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► your ears we got for now anyway I don't know Marquez drawings are pretty amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► like his stick figures are killer Casey two-caliber gonna say given randall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► Munroe a run for his money not that good you made that awesome little decaf sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► with that said coffee mug that was super funny I can occasionally make it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► decent dry I love his drawings I think we have to get rid of the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► have to you have to pass some skill threshold to have a reason to use any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► sort of artistic employment I agree no matter what it is that you're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► there's not like nothing bad will happen to you if you quote unquote can't draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► and you start dealing with the style like we all do it all again the margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► are no books and everything just if it's fun to do and you find it relaxing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► meditated like I'm sure someone to have an incredible make the adult coloring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► book application for the iPad and it'll get it she will love it and I know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► is no like you don't have to I know Marcos looking for something useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► productive but if it's relaxing and fun to do you can try to meet you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► have any interest you can get better at it by practicing and learning about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► guess just like any other skill that I for the longest time I didn't even start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► doing anything because I was afraid to be bad and everyone's bad at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► though it was kind of a stupid fear but that's a kept me from even trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► draw anything ever and so recently I decided you know I'm like 32 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► I'm tired of being afraid of being bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► mad at something that I don't even know how to do this by the way listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► week's back to work which is basically entirely on that topic it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► alright alright pencils that I've already broken I was about to say he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► took the words right out of my mouth so how long did the pencil last from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► the time you had opened the cover of the box to its actually initial breakage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► about five seconds literally like I opened the box and I was looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► little card cause this comes at this card that also has inserts in it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► is on top of the pencil so I open that up in first I was pulling out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► card was the box flipped over the pencil fell out of the box it fell unto our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► floor and it the cap popped off this little silver ring popped off the cap in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► their pieces everywhere so but it turned out that functional it's just the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► of it was broken as a fair to say well the little tiny cap has this little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► silver ring that goes inside of it and it seems to be held on by nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► like a dot of glue so it just probably fell the worst way possible because not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► very tight in the case and in the box when it comes so it just kind of flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► out in that little tiny ring popped up in the market has since super glued it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► back on and but I know it still feels funny to me I mean the Holst the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► pencil even with the ring in place the cap is not really fit tightly they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► in so many ways this pencil was like not designed for practicality which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► shame because it feels really good I can use it it works incredibly well as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► get to but you know I expressed concern earlier even when they when they first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► announced it that like there was there's nowhere to put it for one thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► no way to attach it to your put it into any kind of cover for the iPad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► exists so far which is so frustrating because where else you can use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► pencil nowhere nowhere else is essential to be used anywhere besides with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► MacBook Pro so why not attach it you crazy people right and and so and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► cap so if you want to charge this thing you know we also expressed concern when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► they first showed the soft two months ago whenever we also expressed concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► that you put it in the end of the end you put in the lightning port that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► just asking to be broken off that is so precarious and looks weird first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► but just so ridiculous and and it seems like possibly last minute they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► this like this double female lightning adapter that's in the box you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► can use it to reverse the orientation Attorney General lightning plug on it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► that you can charge it from a lightning cable which is way more scene and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► understand why they did it whatever you can't remember if you only have the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► in the pencil with you and you need a quick charge you can get one quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► just from the iPad it's nice to have that ability I guess but that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► should be the primary charge it and so I get that last second and it isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► problem is when you're charging it if you plug it in like yo overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► sometime if you're charging it when you put the cap you can magnetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► attached the cap to the one of the smarter and smarter than them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► stick the little captain its kind of wobbly really is designed to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► Johnny Ives white world and it and like it doesn't it doesn't seem like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► rolled around in the way he won't find it so you don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► rolling off the desk is it is weightless off a desk but it is it seemed like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► just made at every opportunity to break or get lost in like even when it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► the iPad to charge it had it lightning connector is extra long and it fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► like it's just everything about it is like loose and just waiting to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► break or get lost while the Cabaret almost went into the vacuum and the rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► of the air conditioner vent our house about two hours after I broke its I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► doing really great right now so I'm hearing a since they're so plentiful you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► should just just jumped on down to the local Apple store and get a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► backups because nobody's looking to buy a dozen and keep them in a big jar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► you lose one pencil box like ran i mean they're cheap they're plentiful no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► problems they're gonna sell so many things because people if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► I would guess you have to buy a new and probably once a year so so you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► least maybe even more depending on how careless you are a few things are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► know if you lose things lot like you couldn't have designed to be to be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► practical for like forgetfulness or clumsiness if that makes sense I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► that clumsy or I never lose things I know where everything is in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► down to like the little tiny piece of anything I know where it is and losing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► can't believe how I comedy of errors happened yesterday when we got ahold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► ya so like we actually so I I had pre-ordered where i read online that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► it has a ship date of like mid December and I wanted soon as I kept like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► know going into the stores until they had it and then I got I was able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► there but I'm not gonna cancel that pre-order for the for the one I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► need a spare and is it gonna be good to use have been buzzing find out if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► can draw on the screen with two pencils once thats Wow alright soon now that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► have a slightly damaged but otherwise functional pencil what is it like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► and if you wouldn't mind can you set the stage as to describe you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► would normally do that's artistic with a pen or pencil you know where you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► drawing your own Rembrandt's or you just drawing stick figures I presume it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► well never gonna like sketching which i think the pencil I feel like it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► excels at it from you know actually developed a new signature if anyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► seen it on Twitter recently which is what I decided to do first with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► pencil is the most important thing develop your signature for your iPad are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► you writing checks from you if it's like naming your band in high school before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► you actually like practiced once forgotten to get my arm and i got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► names that was actually really fun to do on the pencil and it from what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► tested three programs now and that whatever it is it's really depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► the program and your level of skill with using these type of programs on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► great the pencil fields I do allow watercolor in real life not digitally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► to replicate that in a lot of programs as a little bit iffy obviously because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► you have you know you're dealing with like ink flowing and and pigment in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► water and dilution and transparency so that's a little tricky but the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► actually makes it really fun to play with on the iPad and with some medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► like trying to replicate a medium that's more solid the pencil really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► excels in it feels extremely fluid it doesn't detect your hand at all which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► really amazing and when you say it doesn't take your hand you mean if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► hand is on there it's not also drawing it smart enough to throw away the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► yeah it will detective fingertip if you accidentally remove a fingertip around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► but with most of these programs as you know like a race and backs though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► not like a ruining anything but with the palm detection is really like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► rest your hand on the iPad pro and draw and it doesn't it doesn't detect it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► doesn't smear anything it as a you know digitally smear under no mere so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► something else I don't know I'm from the island so you should I do I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► really really enjoyable and so far I've done a number of sketches with it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► keep wanting to do more I almost fell asleep last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► cradled next to me intimate but yeah I'm really enjoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► COO of the city views with it what would you say is your favorite and corollary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► to that is that the best app for the pencil or do you just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► experience with that app the most well-marked petunia ones on today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► before that I was using Adobe's sketches that would I was using and then today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► you put on what did you put on a pro bono procreate and Jesus Japanese name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► that I forgot of another very popular schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► anyway so I was just recently just trying with those just before the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► and they have more of a learning curve I think because they're really involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► for artists that know what they're doing the Adobe sketch one was pretty easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► being a newbie using the pencil newbie to art you felt like you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► accomplishing a real work you know like you not just a little sketch that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► going to delete it doesn't matter if you really felt like you could do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► other ones they have so many changes and buttons inflows and this and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► interface is a little bit trickier to navigate if you don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► doing but I feel like that those other programs are the programs that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► move onto after you kind of mastered how to manipulate the pencil with different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► mediums that are available and a lot of these programs and the name I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► forgetting before it was a tie a tie Suu sketches I actually went to the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► store this past weekend and spent maybe a minute may have two minutes using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► pencil I did ask one of the employees if they had any in stock and they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► left my face I mean they were much nicer about it and that that that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► message was he had now but I did play with briefly I only used the notes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► and again I'm no artist but I thought it was cool I thought the tilting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► pencil on its side the lake shade was kind of neat but I don't know why but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► the thing that blew my freaking mind was when I got the Notes app out and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► put on the the on-screen ruler have you played with the staff no I haven't so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► the Notes app you can bring up in on-screen ruler ended behaves like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► have a ruler on the page it's not perfect because there's no physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► barrier to keep you from you know flinging the pencil across your iPad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► it does oh really darn good mimic of water rulers like it it's so stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► I know why found that some press it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► but I just thought it was really really really cool see you mean I keep the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► straight correct right so you can draw up against the ruler and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► perfectly straight line and you can you know spin the ruler round as he spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► total of it shows what angle it's at and it was just very very neat I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► why I personally would ever need to do that but I just thought it was so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► implemented and so well done I also went to the store recently got to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► the pencil I was the first thing I was struck by was in the Apple Store the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► pencils not hatch for things like it's not attached with the little bankers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► know little metal beaded chain thing it is just loose in a little creative thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► is I have to imagine those things are walking out the door like crazy at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► especially when they are rare but anyway I did get to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► although the first thing that confuses me with a conveyor why wasn't working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► do is paired with the one like they had the pencil in the middle of two iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► pros it was paired with the other ones I just plugged into my thing and repair it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► was just nice that feature that repairing feature is cool and comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► handy to know the stupid Bluetooth thing to parents using it I experienced things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► we talked about a Pashos varies widely my appt some of them are slow some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► them are fast the Notes app was the fastest one that I tried because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► had a bunch of different apps installed on it it was fun it was interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► note that the pencil tool that's both look like a pencil to keep saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► oh you can tell to do shading and stuff like that that is the one part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► notice that that felt the least like real media to me and my my biases that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► have habits in my you know my hands and you know my mind and my body from using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► real pencils and stuff for many many years when I was a kid and every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► use anything that involves like drawing on a tablet screen or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► almost as if it was farther away from the real thing out few more comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► because then I wouldn't be trying to use the the you know the the motions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► gestures that I'm used to from the real physical world of art media but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► pencils close enough to real media that I expected to look work more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► pencil and that still shaking thing just does not work anything like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► pencil and so I was continually frustrated by the fact that I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► I would do with an actual pencil and start doing with this pencil demands in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► particular I found that a lot of the ones that I draw I draw with the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► tilted at such an angle that the accelerometers in the pencil think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► want to do shading but in reality but the real physical pencil on paper I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► still just using the tape and I find that very frustrating and maybe have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► change how I was doing everything to be more directly into the into the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► to make sure it doesn't then line if I could disable the shaving thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► change like the ratio but don't even start shaving thing until I'm super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► tilted over yeah that really bother me a lot but that's just that I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► more of a barrier of like people who are good at using computers to draw it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► actually I think it'd be different enough skill from people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► using you know pencils or pens or paints or any other me like the media really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► think that you're using the medium really does change how you think so if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► got one of these and I was actually using it to draw I think I would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► have a learning curve to learn how to use this tool to draw in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► that you learn how to use in the leg while pastels vs oil paid Services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► acrylics or anything like that but bottom line is I feel like this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► this could could be used to very easily be used by someone to do their work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► an artist because it is so close to in terms of responsiveness you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► real pencil it so much closer than all the things I've used in the past I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► heard from actual artist even the people are using the top of the line current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► generation tablet type things that it's pretty good at either better than or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► least as good as the existing tablet technology so good job for Apple and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► alright its first right not counting the new and once again for new number desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► you feel bad when I say this first try not to noon doing really good pen input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► the pencil feels really nice like it doesn't cramp your hand while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► using it which is great it is very comfortable and before when I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► the iPad pro I felt the weight of the iPad perot all the time without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► pencil so I was sitting with a we are watching movies I tried to read with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► some people think that that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► the reading experience is really great I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► it awful on the iPad pro it is way too big but when I was getting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► pencil I the way it just kind of disappeared and I kind of didn't notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► it and it felt so natural and great to have this really big screen so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► experience with the iPad throw itself without the pencil was a disaster and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► i kno wasn't sure I even wanted it to keep it and I didn't I played with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► for a few hours and then I kinda left it on the table you know I didn't I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► interested in using it any further than that because it felt just too heavy too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► big too much stuff going on or too little stuff with the home screen icon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► end but as soon as I got the pencil it has been in my lap every free moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► that I can possibly find do not subscribe to any magazines like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► digital or otherwise I think magazines like you know I don't know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► described to Martha Stewart's magazine actually but she filled it all up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► ads like her real magazine and now it's horrible to read and the ads move on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► digital ones though it was worth it that's a no I don't I tried to read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► did some didn't really slow so I tend to prefer the paper ones my wife read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► magazines on her iPad she still thinks you are many to get a full size one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► I can imagine the best application as I'd like comic books like that for a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► gigantic iPad would be magazines with big big illustrations or photos like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► photography magazine nature magazine fashion magazine a car magazine like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► could see those being amazing but I mean when I read romance novels I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► don't want that very large and visible to everyone in the way you can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► about it for the iPad Pro for reading is if you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► could imagine yourself comfortably reading a paper book of that size is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► great for the soul of the magazines that paper magazines are especially the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► large ones like magazine before they get made it crappy but anyway you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► don't have big bogus these days but there are magazines that are very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► and it's a sure I can do that but novels are paper books paperback size usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► are not as big as the iPad pro in most cases most of paperbacks that I myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► even the biggest ones I have up here are more or less for iPad air two sides not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► iPad process so it is a little over sized but others have last week the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► whole ideas maybe not for reading novels or anything you can have other stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► the screen at the same time so you can bounce back and forth between Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► and flipping through the latest issue of you know car driver or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► that's the general theme that that we found so far the iPad perot is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► really good for certain things but that is it doesn't overlap completely with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► what the smaller iPads are really good at like you would think that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3489">TS</a>]
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00:58:19 ◼ ► would include everything the small ones are good at plus also some new stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3499">TS</a>]
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00:58:27 ◼ ► that like a 17 inch MacBook Pro may rest in peace is not great at everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3507">TS</a>]
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00:58:50 ◼ ► lineup that it has substantial differentiation between the models now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► and that's okay you can't just be sure that if you like one of the iPad's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► can't be sure that the next one up will be better in every way for you to if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► you work to do to your parents house for a few days would you bring it with you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► really good question probably not because I don't have time to sit and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► or draw or paint anything so I never brought my painting supplies there even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► though I have travel ones so probably not but I would bring my regular size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► iPad because sometimes I do like to read when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► they're like during naps their evening or out of town but so so no probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► wouldn't because this really pick two and the internet connections of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► great I'm assuming since you wouldn't bring it to mom and dads that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► probably wouldn't bring it on like a trip or something like that like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► say you know tested as European delivery which I understand makes no sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► you guys maybe all of us go again would you bring this on that sort of a trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► now I wouldn't I wouldn't because I'm not a digital artist I'm just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► learning and getting interested in trying to do it because it is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► john was saying it's very different holding a stylist to a screen and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► moving or a brush with bristles that are dynamic and move-in swirl translating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► that if they if that's what you want to do is you want to paint something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► satisfying that doesn't happen on the iPad but if you want to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► create a digital piece of art which I find is is just like another medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► until you know yet paint you have pencil you have digital are like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► another way to do it and there is another set of skills that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► learn and develop so if I got into that then yeah I would see myself carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► this with me to accomplish that task if I want to create a digital Journal of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3655">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► trip I was going on but as of right now no because I'm just not enough I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► skilled enough but I can definitely see a place for it for other people but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► me it's it's just too big a digital journals like that that is a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► people should aspire to make the iPad probe into a good tool for alleged terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► of people some people do this as a people don't like to like a while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► on the trip so you're going on a trip to Europe while you there at like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► end of each day that you take the photos off your camera put them right into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► iPad 4 with the USB port that will talk about it a little bit maybe use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► various applications available on the iPad pro to compose it a cool in a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► page or slide show or a movie or something you can share with everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► else in at the end of each day you would send out to your family or whoever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► here's how are you know second day in italy was right or just even just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► working on it so that by the time you come home from the trip you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► everything sort of assembled together into whatever form that you decide you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► want to share your trip with a series of pictures or a slide show or a movie or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► web page with a bunch of pictures and blog post all the type of things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► all know that we can do with computers and websites a lot of I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► existing image of the iPad in most people's mind and then the reality for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► most people other than maybe she is that the best way to synthesize all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► photos video text web stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► emailing people compiling all that information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► the best way to do that is still on a Mac and I see no reason the iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► can't be as good or better at almost all those things especially with the stylist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► in but if you want to add take pictures like a magic arranging pictures in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► like an application let you sort of vilification album where you could hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► right underneath the things little captions in the more personal if you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► me running than typing in captions for things and being able to touch things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► and drag things around as if they were actually photos in a real scrapbooking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► stuff they had pro- be perfect for that but that it that's only promise at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► point I'm sure their applications that do this but like bringing it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► touch stylus photography importing multiple applications working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► single thing and then sharing out everybody I don't think we're there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► but I totally think we could be an iPad pro would be the perfect device for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► the others do doubt that the iPad Pro will make that experience way better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► everyone anyone who really likes doing that is already kind of doing that on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► laptop so you I feel like the people who are committed to doing that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► thing that work on the go vacation journaling or you know scrapbooking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► sending it out to family it's going to open up to a lot more people with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► iPad because it becomes way more accessible but it's again it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► thing you have to be into doing I felt you know for me in the end of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► in the evening the stuff when I'm on vacation and doing stuff I kind of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► want to read Twitter put my own photo on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► move on you know like committing to all of that work while on vacation I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► takes a certain type of person and that person that's going to really grab hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► of this kind of device and run with it the best kind of technology actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► changes habits little bit so a lot of us for not having people who made family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► movies of anything but when I movie came out and it made it simple and fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► make a quick little movie even in turn downtown me how about a movie is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► simple and it is not find every christmas is like iMovie stress how in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► this household I make a Christmas movie every year with a stop motion video of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► us unwrapping gifts and stuff and it is held every time and am also very upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► that there aren't any new themes ever ever ever ever get my point is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► those applications down applications made people who would never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► tried at least once a whole bunch of people tried it and we're more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► successful and some percentage ratio 50% or whatever people who did not suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► become people who make videos for every occasion their life but they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► maybe once maybe twice right because the application suddenly made it possible it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► wasn't like well I can't make a video of my family all I can do is shoot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► video record to my little you know VHS are many TV or whatever and then we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► all watch it from start to end its interminable but I'm never gonna edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► this video is another video editor and the early days of the iLife suite made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► it so that regular people who are never considered his video editors suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► had a tool in their house that they could use to edit a little video and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► to find it really difficult and you make crappy videos but it did it once to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► twice and I feel like the iPad perot would stop putting everything could take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► people who would never in a million years go through all the work to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► on a laptop and know how to synthesize all that stuff and make it that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► one or two good applications the iPad robust our support maybe someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► isn't one of those people who makes at the end of every vacation day brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► their I pepper with them and tried it once and sends out a nice things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► that so I'm talking about I could sit small stakes but technology can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► sort of like lower the barrier to entry to the point where people who are never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► going to be serious about it still will like dabble for a second or two and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► out yet there still isn't for me but had me this cool thing out of it and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► exactly how I feel now about the digital art before I never even considered ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► ever ever trying to do anything digital and because this thing kind of appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► and Marco buys everything so it things appear it peaked my interest into trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► this meaning that I've never would have tried before because I'm not gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► out and purchase the tablet and purchased you know even though I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► a table we have one of those guys we have everything but we've had a Wacom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► tablet sitting in the closet for about five years I try to do anything it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► awful so for me but I'm not gonna go out and get a program and learn it but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► this it just feels so accessible and attainable to learn how to do at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► base level of of this kind of thing so I Pad Pro ultimate at home iPad yes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► home might add me I would even say also like you know it's a little bit this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► last week to Buddha my my father time playing with that just reinforces this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► think it's the kind of thing where if you were already using an iPad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► productivity kind of work then this will probably be even better for you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► if you if you are already doing like email and documents and spreadsheets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► and stuff like that in on an iPad before then this will probably be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► improvement but it is it is it is kind of like a laptop in that way like it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► it has replaced your laptop or you know or if it is almost replace your laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► already before you had an iPad pro then yes this is probably the device for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► or if you have some of these like you know nice creative uses if you plan to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► use the pencil if if you could make use of such a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► this is also gonna be amazing for you if you are currently using an iPad with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► keyboard and you want a better larger keyboard this will probably meeting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► you as well we haven't we don't have the keyboard so we can really say how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► already but if you if you're using your iPad primarily for content consumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► or if you're like me and you can't quite figure out when to use your iPad for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► most part then it's more of a mixed bag it's it's not a guarantee this will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► better for you and it isn't a guarantee that that you would date you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► happy with it you got it so that is still up in the air but I will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► for the things that is good at like that pen input it is it is so good that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► iPad skeptic and just kind of not having much use for my iPad's I want a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► to use it I i actually and motivated to try to use it and it really into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► because using the pencil is just so damn fun I won't ask that to Casey because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► you're if you're the guy here who says he does not do art stuff right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► cracked John does a little bit I know market is a little bit he's a liar and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► no idea but for you does this entry cue to start possibly playing around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► seeing if you want to learn how to draw and to start that learning on the iPad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► don't think so I mean to be fair I've only played at the pencil like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► for him editor to it was not very much at all and I thought it was neat but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► struck me as the sort of thing that I would think this is really need for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► week or two and then I'd probably never look at it again now who knows maybe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► a week or two I would get bit by the art bug if you will and then I would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► put it down but my guess is I would think shiny new need for a week maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4193">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► two and then I would just never look never looked back and I wish I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► could do it somebody had asked TIFF have a photography work and I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► this is worth touching on briefly would you use it for photography is so why if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► not why not I guess right now not because the way I added my photos it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► and the I feel like just the power and the hardware needed to run the Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► that I like to run when I get my photos is just not there on the iPad I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► see it because if if it end if they end of translating onto the iPad with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► touch interface it might be interesting to do but I don't know the precision of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► some of the Photoshop actions that I do really probably would not translate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► gray and for me I have to edit photos if anyone else is out there who is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► photographer or edit photos you know that if you use a different screen for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► editing your photos not screen that you have calibrated with a printer that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► use or they are used to working with you can move photos from one device to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► another and the colors will be all wrong that you have worked on so you could sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► and you can work on a picture for you know twenty minutes if you're traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► at all over the place in putting filters on and taking them off like I do like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► insane person because I'm crazy but if you do that you would have no one device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► and you put it on another and then all of a sudden it's not what you wanted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► to be which that frustration exist when I get for voters to clients and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► don't have the right color but I've found a way to fix that anyway but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► just it's not right now I right now it's not accessible on the the level that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► i'm playing with here and I think that a lot of other people feel that too but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► you're just doing you know you're moving some sliders around which the majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► of our family photos that's all that it needs then it is pretty accessible but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► don't like having my photos into places where we actually have something of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► generous about that there was this thing and Macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► about the display quality color accuracy of the iPad pro vs the surface Pro for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► and other things and I've ever didn't come out that wellness test not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► there's no bad screen cities are all good screens but the 704 edged out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► forget but the company is that does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► the test all the display is just a mate I believe historically Apple has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► weird with with the displays because it's you know that they always displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► as those beautiful display of ever put in a blah blah blah like they always say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► they're great they don't tend to differentiate but whenever anyone does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► any actual testing with the color meter some models of devices have super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► accurate displays and some have not so accurate ones and it doesn't follow any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► particular lines like I think they were saying like the best screen Apple had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► ever put on was like I'm one of the many is there something yet at the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► recent iPad Mini Mini for ya so they're all pretty good but you know but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► is enough variance that would be saying is surely it's not just like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► know even equally good they can be different than a calibrated but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► some cases just like the screen can display the same range of colours at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► that screen Canzano Amanda calibrations ever gonna make them look the same same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► it's also interesting that they have the nice TCPIP 310 bit screens on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► new iMacs but that has that didn't make it into the iPad pro I wonder and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► support standard colors and that's one of the reasons why but it'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► interesting to see if and when that gets added to iOS that could really help as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► well yeah it's not that I Mac Pro but it's got the good screen but the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► pro not something I mean obviously have different strengths or handheld device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► like who knows what the requirements are you know that extra little bit of color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► accuracy and ended 10 been arranged everything maybe it's just not feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► at all in a handheld battery-powered device yet again will be nice though but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► anyway or any other questions for 240 just in general terms like thumbs up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4445">TS</a>]
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01:14:18 ◼ ► the you know doing the digital art thing that I think I think it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► become more and more useful as a another tool of hobby I think you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► my profession at all so it's it's very much a hobby tool but it's it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► darn fun one also my thanks for coming on sharing with us and thanks for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► me guys are found a spot for this week is automatic automatic is it connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4480">TS</a>]
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01:14:50 ◼ ► different apps plus their own apt to give you tons of functionality and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4490">TS</a>]
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01:15:07 ◼ ► and certain area code you can just pick something and then automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► actually clear the warning after you fixed it also gives you a lot of trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► he takes who you can you can track things for business if you need to log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► your miles your business or if you're curious about your your gas mileage fuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► efficiency can help you track all of that you know track your parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► location you never lose your car and if you if you need help in an emergency if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► automatic can automatically call the emergency services for you in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► accident that's really really great benefits here now they also recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► launched apps and a whole SDK so if you get automatic com slash at you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► browse they have over 20 a so far adding more all the time you can use your card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► data and all kinds of new ways one of the biggest ones is they have paired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► with if this than that I have TTT however the pronounced as you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► can build recipes in if this than that based on your driving behavior and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► driving events and so we can do things like when I'm close to home in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► use my nest thermostat to automatically turn the air conditioning on so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► get home is nice and cool things like that you can really do amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► with some of these out things like FreshBooks integration pebble Smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► Watch integration all certainty that you can even send euros in the yo app which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► is a real thing so they've launched developer platform and you can go check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► developer still go check out the apps automatic can do lots of great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► now you can get automatic normally it's a hundred bucks it's a great deal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4595">TS</a>]
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01:17:08 ◼ ► response show once again make users more about the iPad pro I believe for now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► can talk about the USB thing but I can stay at least we have to get more info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► about the bottom line is that the iPad Pro is definitely the device for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► want to have a speedy way to shove stuff into it and Apple has said that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► going to be able to do that with usb3 speeds is there really a lot of emotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► behind tethered over the cable transfer of files to iOS devices these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► imagine it's imagine it's all cameras right like if you can connect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► camera directly to your yes you do it wirelessly if you wanted but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► connect your camera or some other card reader thing directly to your iPad then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► you could go on the road with just the iPad and the camera and do some useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► work that's true that actually and you know I might use it for that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► there are some trips where I bring my laptop now go to a conference I bring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► laptop but I really don't usually need it for any kind of laptop a function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► that I can't serve just as well buy my iPhone or an iPad so you know I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► see the value in having that they've they've had ever since the first iPad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► sold the camera connection kit which has even been able to be in St card reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► or a USB port which you can use the plugin also decreased if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► but a surprising amount of driverless USB peripherals work on iPads with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► camera connection kit and some even work on iPhones anyway so I could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► being being possible because the camera connection kit is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► fairly rarely sold accessory as far as I know that they've never seem to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► whole lot of effort into the the process and the capabilities of importing photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► off the camera card into the photos Apple iPads so I don't know how how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► it would work in practice I haven't try it next week and how it works and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► wouldn't expect you to do very well may 14 megapixel raw files that that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► usb3 speeds like that's the big thing lighting part mysteriously not those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► speeds and it's kind of a pain if you have taken that files and now with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► iPad pro this part is capable I don't know how yet if they're not yet but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► will be capable of USB 3 speeds and so that would really help I mean generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► when it comes to light processing raw photos on something like an iPad the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► no I think the processing power of the devices limit because when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► president raw files you have to do the deed the reading and the JPEG conversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► on on device it is never done for you and the cameras all have these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► specialized image processors to do it in like you know how the apparel optimized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► way the computers are doing it generally you know on the CPU entirely or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► with some light GPU help and it's it's a pretty slow process to do large Roy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► imports so I'm guessing that be much more useful for JPEG shooters or even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► the raw + JPEG weirdos like I was briefly but 44 action for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► shooting RAW who wanted to let you know a couple of quick imports to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► somebody or preview or post to the social network I probably won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► useful for that but I'd love to try between wrong so maybe I'll try I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► mean this distance thing says the file transfer and then there's the conversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► even just for display purposes so if you can make the part where just copies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► raw data directly on the card and onto the iPad faster than it gives you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► time to spend with your slower CPU doing their own conversion for display anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► even if it's not just for photography the idea the lighting this is an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► question is about is licking their back online part was made it like lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► how fast will go why did not use USB why did not change it to you is BC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► is it even possible to do usb3 speeds over lightning oh no you can't doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► have enough pins because the usb3 connector has more pins than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► contacts that are on the Lightning connector and this link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► notes from someone who did a lot of you know investigation into lighting part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► backordered introduced this rainer a broader Hoffs blog and he has come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► to talk about the lack of pins and citizen he came down to is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► don't need all the pains of a real USB thing because they have dedicated pins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► for the USB two speeds and lighting doesn't have to do that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► multiplexing it's a look at home not doing USB two speeds or something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► but we'll see it I think people who are doing tear downs on the iPad pro said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► they found two new look like two new connectors inside there so maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► adapters will have extra contacts I don't know how to work while to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► till these adapters are introducing if they're already out I just haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► them yet so there's some fall for next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► alright thanks let two or three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► Squarespace mail route an automatic and we'll see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► now the show they didn't even mean to begin accidental accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► I do very much want to talk to you but I think we're better off tonight talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► about the iMac that's totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► alright so I'm not my computer to be clear the Mac Pro 2008 Mac Pro still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► here I'm speaking into it right now this is a replacement for my wife's 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► MacBook Air which was getting long in the tooth in our photos couldn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► anymore so we had an external SSD but it was only fire 800 and I was part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► reason I thought photos might have been slow and anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► done big fancy new iMac after hearing Marco report good things about his 2709 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► action as the new from your fancy a model with even nicer screen and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► knows that she just wanted I magnin on freeway even as he took the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► how the room on a podcast so she could so use a computer without being here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► they might still have the MacBook Air is just moved over to the other desperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► using a Mac and like me a few things for me to report that I never really spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► any time with markers I saw it and the ones in Astoria they've seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► temporary spending time with them from mine I decided to not max out the RAM I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► didn't do too much research into this but I just saw in the in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► configurator it said 16 gigs for like two dams and 32 easier for a pic 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► figuring that despite Mr Dempsey and up to 32 later that's not true don't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► me until four years from now when I find out what I should probably fine I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► the biggest fastest GPU because whatever like I was going to buy the YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► video fingers crossed this will actually not be something to do my kids can now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► play it by now seeing minecraft at non disgusting frame rates and I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► more impressed than they are but I think at the same time they're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► use the plate on a MacBook Air again I don't blame them and I got the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► terabyte St because I really want to fit everything on this thing instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► external drive which I still have but it's an enclosure that expire 800 so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► also had two by the way by a lightning to Thunderbolt to firewire 800 out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► so I could connect my chain of firewire 800 drives and everything but it's mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► I'll have USB 3 hard drive that I can finally connect to actually use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► report and I was one of the first things I noticed about this was I have a bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► powered one terabyte like 2.5 inch USB 3 drive for a while and I decided I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► going to use this I was used as the clone drive for this year 10 a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► duper clones and I kept finding that when the Mac would go to sleep and wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► back up it would say this disc was not ejected properly bubble blower like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► was unmounting itself somewhere along the line and that usually means I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► it's being under powered by the bus and it's just you know not able to maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► the connection but then it comes back I don't understand it because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► connected to a hub is directly connected to the computer and I have never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► that problem than any other computers are connected this to but then again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► haven't had it connected to other computers for really long period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► so I know if I have a broken drive if the ports in the back of the USB the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► iMac can supply enough power for this thing whatever it is that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► annoyed me but i wanna talk about the thickness of external peripherals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► right now Allen I only connected when I wanna do a clone which is a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► solution I suppose although I have a whole their drive at the end of the fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► and change to do if you want to have an enclosure that I have bought like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► of them now it's something like twelve dollars at City usb3 single disc 2.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► inch closer and its I had one of them would would do the exact same thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► it was on a really freaky USB hub that I used to have and so far this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► enclosure to them that I bought have been perfect and for $12 it's been just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► as good as like the expensive ones I've gotten from OWC and stuff in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► that's what I had to do that I never considered because I knew that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► work but even direct connect them a closely so I don't know anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► the main thing I noticed about this iMac off the bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► is that the fan in all states it slowly noisier than I thought it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► forced to really even in the most I don't like nothing is happening on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► computer I i download video that shows me the fan rpm like the lowest possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► rpm I can still hear it more than I could hear the fan on the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► for two reasons one the MacBook Air was like back a little bit farther like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► was kind of behind the monitor and to the left and to win the MacBook Air fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► it is a really quiet now the flip side of that is that you do anything to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► MacBook Air the fan goes up to Super you know they can possibly go and sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► like a terrible angry hair dryer right so when iMac you can do way more before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► the fans start spinning up so overall it's probably benefit but every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► sit in front of a computer I keep thinking that the hard drives on cause I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► have something for guard that's going to this thing from a different backups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► I don't leave them on all the time like actually unmount them and turn them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► and you know like a hard drive and spinning make some noise mechanical hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► drive I keep thinking that while if one of the drives on the nose just stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► fans think anybody thought my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► sign it's probably still choir than my 2008 Mac Pro though maybe not going that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► grows on the ground in early here that that is my one mild disappointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► everything else about it is great screen looks great I don't even mind that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► looks actually kinda cool but they do see it from the edge sometimes for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► while I kept thinking that the hinge was loose because it kept going to lay down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► this is my wife she could still take it down the night fighting over what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► correct position is the screen but the more obvious a different types their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► photos is faster and is much faster than it was in my car and drive it is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► slow and is still weird and buggy when I when I brought the library over you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► how to top it off my external drive that took forever and throws really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► about I copied every single file over and photos was like I have sixty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► thousand files to important like no you don't they're all there and so had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► wait for like three days for it to convince himself that had all the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► on it at some point it was like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► have enough disk space I'm like how I don't have it you know I have plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► space I'm not even like a quarter filled in this terabyte drive so photos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► weird and does weird things and scared he sometimes but in the end I just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► it stew for a long time it was fine I still haven't removed my most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► backup of my otha library so if this thing is lying to me I still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► everything as like you know when I got the new iMac but that was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► tricky and boy copying the photo library in the Finder that took so long and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► there are so many files involved with that in the Finder gives you a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► bit of a finer spends like a long time like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► bit of a finer spends like a long time like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► he wasn't half hour maybe with more than our preparing to copy not going to copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► it's preparing to copy it's gotta count all the files and I don't know what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► doing to me it's free flying to make sure the spaces available like I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► use the CPK man just start chopping things what do you like to use rsync for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► flags on these things that make up the other metadata like no I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► what I was doing with the 411 be used to find it eventually did work remember I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► copping from as a city to SSD here so it's you know it's hot as fire r800 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► internal SSD is not as a waiver spinning disk to send the heads-up play seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► all over there was terrifying it actually did work so yeah so far so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► another file thing I can put this in here I spent like three days fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► with this damn computer that felt like I was going back in time there was 10 Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► Machine spotlight we're just not happy time machine seemed happy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► beginning because it's like oh you know my name I could do the same as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► before I did migration as a sense like I told you this descriptor machines like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► you only get inherit the backups from the previous thing and I did because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► like basically that was you know I copy the hard drive over there yes please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► inherit the backup so I don't lose all my previous versions so it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► backing up to this thing and I told us to do that and I noticed that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► spotlight in Time Machine we're just not ever finishing what they're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► be doing spotlight was always the you know seemingly indexing in the console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► is filling up with tons of like Mt worker errors and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► Time Machine would never actually complete a backup ever ever ever after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► several days this I spent a long time staring at the council and cooling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► things and finding all these weird obscure errors and people are like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► just nuclear spotlight star and you know I did all the things you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► doing with them to you till like totally removing a thing disabling spotlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► trying to let spotlight go first trying to buy time machine go first I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► know what their problem was but they were totally wage and neither one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► spotlight indexing when I complete in time she will not complete and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► very refreshing because I really can't basically sign off on the computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► ready for use until time machine is running really care that much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► spotlight so I spent many days fighting with that and googling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► and eventually got the thing to go through what the hell was I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► remember what the problem was one of those things where it's not like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► was no aha moment I you know if if you like Google for all these error messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► you find a million hits on Apple's discussion boards of people the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► problem sometimes they're benign sometimes people say list of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► for me nothing I found help me fix it eventually I just had to go to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► school kinda bugging room using like lsof and stuff to figure out who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► hell has these files open and are they files that I can even delete or re- copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► one of the solutions involved me deleting my old user account that had on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► that machine because spotlight isn't as indexing the files of the logged in user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► its indexing the files on by all the different users at the same time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► some of the counselors you're saying you're not from the counter logged into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► and like 10 make sure you log into every account update the clock cloud stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► I did that it didn't help the boy was one of the problems where every solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5576">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► you find you're excited this is gonna be the thing that makes it and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► but I did them up in a way I deleted my account from there which took with it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► lot of files that apparently of the various spotlight metadata diamond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► importe things I can be working in the US where choking on badly and that led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► to progress and eventually spotlight and text anyone spotlight in next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► machine worked and I just made me think that there's no way in hell that anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► could have successfully fix this if they didn't have the if they want a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► who's willing to spend literally three days just googling and and cursing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► googling and cursing and part of it is probably because like you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► my gracious assistant and it's like an old account that maybe like had a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► of weird crafty things in it from a long time ago but you know we're going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► you should just gonna clean so this is the first time I Gration assist system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► has steered me wrong and really I just blame it was followed her timesheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► about for just not being more about us find their files up also isn't it weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► that you can import their car causing AMD worker to crash just just move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► just you know power through it like then don't index those but if an ironing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► understand why spotlighting time machines seem to Wed each other in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► way because time machine should work without spotlight and vice versa but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► period so that was a bad sort of first couple days experience but eventually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► did get into a steady state and now I have mounting back up so I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► finally expand my back up some nice analogy which by the way was nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► easy because I just got the added you know they don't have trouble reading had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► another drive to think but I just converted from the raid 1 raid 5 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► from two discs its rate and so got more space that all worked out so for the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► noise things going better for a second cause I my iMac is is almost inaudible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► and and the same is almost inaudible when it's when it's not doing that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► and and really under any load accept a sustained heavy lift if I Hanbury or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► asked if his a-game running then you will hear the fans but in every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► time I don't hear the fans at all so I'm curious now of course if you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► had something like I start menu's installed by did I install the thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► see their family at 1200 rpm I can hear ok that's good that's as you say mine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► idling at 1200 and is that loud like it's it's not a loud fan is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► I mean I'm surprised in a room that that that includes a Mac Pro is one thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► notice like if I went from two macros 22 IMAX and when you would turn off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► iMac of them in the Mac Pro leaving the iMac behind it was clear as daylight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► when we only had one and one for like a day or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► the difference was clear as day like that the the Mac Pro was so we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► thought was quiet relatively speaking but it's so easily would mask the noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► of the iMac yeah my macros asleep most of the time it does the closest thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► the iMac is the ps4 but it's also a sleep unless I was playing but really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► can only hear that Mike when I'm sitting in front but that's one who knows me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► that sound oh it's a stupid again not loud at all but I just feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► should be like the MacBook Air with literally inaudible when the computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► idle and you could hear it at all that was like I was grinding in the back row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► doing something like that and this is close to inaudible but not so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► that big of a deal but it'd be nice if you just like they just need to put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► even bigger lower rpms and it's not like you don't have room space to spread out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► big leave the fan blades turning it like you know hundred rpm go for it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► have it as you said you liked the thin edge you see from the side sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► that's why that's why we can't have nice things done that we can have been quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► fans even with the thin and there's enough room for like a frisbee in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► big screen and speaking that so like her computer is always the one that we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► not sleeping cuz it was plugged into AC all the time and I was going to have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► here that the wake all the time to sell you to go for a lot of that rolled her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► computer is always awake and with the iMac it was weird to see Nos 10 I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► know this is a new development of the handout IMAX for a while but like with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► built-in screen computer there's not separate settings for display sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► apparently there's one saying that says do you want me to prevent the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► from going to sleep when the display sleeps and there's one slide it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► when should the display go to sleep I would like to say let's play go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► sleeps 10 minutes computer go to sleep on our like you used to back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► olden days and how I can on my Mac Mac Pro other but you can tell you that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► check box and I need to just looking to the peerless settings just changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► though I wanted you can also you can set a hot corner to do immediate display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► sleep yeah and you just have a doubt I know it's just like I'm using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► sliders that the way they used to be and I'm also known as some spooky behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► arcade like you leave the computer known such a nose doing anything and display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► will go off and whether it sleeping or not you come back a little later in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► label beyond I've been sitting in the room I tap and I've been like plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► destiny outlook over the screen turns unlike you turning on and you know wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► for network access is off no weird USB hubs are attached the console is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► anything about what the thing is it's like did you wake up or did the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► and sometimes the screen just won't go you know that interval go by 15 mins ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► by an ice cream monkey off so I've got my eye and it I'm sleep issues like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► don't care cause is based on all the time anyway but you know what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► there in forever that I know the issue you're talking about I've seen that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► the past and other computers but I have never seen that either of our IMAX so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► don't think it's a it's an issue with the iMac I think it's an issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► probably so maybe it's that weird USB device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► maybe maybe it's a plague enclosure the plug is that thing is unplugged so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► that's not a fair maybe the fire where the fire was just powered off I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► know anyway I gotta figure out how to make this thing happen MCM too much has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► happened once or twice and then one morning I can dance at the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► screen on so maybe was on all night anyway it's it's behaving now Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► computer can't sleep it's like when you too much chillin nearly 35 like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► your computer has so many windows it just it just keeps can't go to sleep my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► computer its her computer doesn't have that many things on it is only 50 she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► someone does is one of the things that make that he remember when it came time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► to order this is going to the order configuration thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► asked my wife if she wanted which math she wanted or if you want to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► measure trackpad and to my surprise you should she wanted to try to Magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► Trackpad because she already had a mouse that you liked and we got the extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► keyboard which is still in the box because she like they keep using your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► old ones that we have an extra now but anyway she picked a magic trackpad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► not for me still like it's magic is that maybe I still use the mouse I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► going to attract bad person so far remains to be seen if she will make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► transition she's been trying it and messing around with that but I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► I look over there now I think the mouse is still next to the keyboards I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► she liked the measure track that down and uses it and I don't know I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► when you talk talk talk of the sound different mouse but anyway there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► in the house now and she was a curious enough to try but I don't know if it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/6017">TS</a>]
00:00:00 ◼ ► anyway I don't know how you can edit the beginning of the show good luck to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► delete everything before right now come on what am I gonna pull out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► clinically cozy cozy discussion was wonderful I don't have a long shot but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/8">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► and beer warmers or Ohio Sorry Sorry Ohio it just doesn't make the cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/12">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► just let it be known markers party pooper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► John would you like to tell us about Apple TV catching up on gaming consoles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/22">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► sure how much follow up on Apple TV is fine tailing off now but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► conversation I saw floating around these past few weeks I forget what prompted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► otherwise I would have put the link in here but maybe just people talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► gaming and Apple TV in general and some people like you know the the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► with an AAA it's catching up some gaming consoles and power and gets more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/45">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► maybe not as powerful as for now but the ps4 isn't going to change anytime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► like the s5 is not imminent so if Apple keeps revising the Apple TV at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/56">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► point the Apple TV could be more powerful than all current generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► gaming consoles and I think that's crazy talk there it it starts with the kernel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/64">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► of truth yes that the Apple TV the aids way faster than the old one and I'd even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/72">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► go survive and look into this deeply but just looking at the games you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► sure ps3 power maybe a little bit more probably that's a safe bet has ps3's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/79">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► agree that it's not BS for power or Xbox one power but then they extrapolated say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/87">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► but you know this is the eighth but if next year's the 89th and the a10 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► know even if it's just a year or two behind the top and phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► the idea that iOS devices keep getting faster and game consoles have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/101">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► five to seven year life span sometimes even longer so if there is no P S five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/107">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► in their eyes and perhaps just before the PSI overrides the Apple TV will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► more powerful and more powerful gaming system and the reason I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► bunk is not necessarily because Apple couldn't make hardware that is faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► than the ps4 because they inevitably will also not perhaps in the time frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► before the BS IV comes but just because the Apple TV isn't the iPhone it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/127">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► get revised every year and even the iPhone even the highest-end iOS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/132">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► they make the gigantic iPad pro the bill talk about later has only four gigs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► ram and the ps4 has eight gigs of ram and you think well you know dramas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► matters the CPU and GPU will be just as fast when it comes to making games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/145">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► and things like hard disk space and stuff like that makes a difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/151">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► the ps4 i think is a 500 gig hard drive now many gigs of ram when do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/156">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► it's going to be the Apple TV around eventually it will write but will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► eight gigs of ram before the P S five is out I find that hard to believe given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► how frequently Apple updates the Apple TV and and even just given I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/168">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► think the iPhone will have a gig of ram by 10 the DSi comes out the current rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► of RAM do so and that's what makes a difference for games with like large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/177">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► open world games with high-resolution textures and all that other stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/183">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► anyone thinking that the Apple TV will eventually be more powerful than the ps4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► it will but by that time the TSX probably be out there is also a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► big difference in thermals between between these kind of systems you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► that as we as we see from modern CPU and GPU limitations and designs and progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/197">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► and everything we're mainly limited by how much we will allow the chips 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► output or how much we can deal with the not putting and that pretty much put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/208">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► limit on performance that we can get them at any given moment in any given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/211">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► year like in whatever we can do that year that is generally what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► fighting against the first things are AC connected you know that's really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/218">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► worry too much about the current draw which is related but you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/222">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► you can match up the current drug much as you want you're plugged into a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► outlet but you still in a little tiny box 200 bucks next year TV hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/229">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► your TV with no fan little tiny enclosure that's not even made of metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► it's gonna be pretty hard to get you know maybe he tapped out of that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/238">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► look at the game console and they had these big hot ship these big loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► annoying fans especially in their first generation before the due process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► hearing so when the cs5 comes out there gonna be able to put in some giant big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/250">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► Hot Chip with a big loud fan on it and the Apple TV will still need to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► cheap families box running year or two old iPhone cuts and their and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/261">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► offset from each other because like could you imagine when the PSD first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► came out of you that someday they'll be a little black box with no fans and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► more powerful than the ps3 you like it out here but here we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► its huge gap between the ps3 now so like just family's thing is always going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/277">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► lag behind the thing with fans by at least a generation in and not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/283">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► processing power as much as just capacity for large you know games like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/290">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► having all that RAM is important for putting the big console games on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/295">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► for the for the big textures and all I know the stuff and if you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► that Ramdev you have to weigh like the ps3 didn't have a lot to a lot of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► part of the reason that the Apple TV can imagine these days it's because ps3 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► very strange architecture and relatively ramstein but the ps4 is not RAM starved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/310">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► it's got tons of RAM and it's got tons of hard drive space which is not as fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► as an SSD when you're you know freeloading levels and stuff it's fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► enough to stream clubs anyway I don't I'm definitely not looking for the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/324">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► TV to catch up and pass the ps4 unless I guess there is no BS five and then wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► around until we can get a ps4 in a little box thing but I really think at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► this point that probably will be a PSI biggest the ps4 is doing pretty well for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/338">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► alright and you follow up on an infinite times the rate we're going we are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► to not have follow-up at all I don't even know what to make of this bloody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► shame that you can take them to put a lot of stuff in there but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/353">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► really because we're just gonna talk more about that later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/358">TS</a>]
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00:07:00 ◼ ► it you don't want to be the one dealing with feature request from the client or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/420">TS</a>]
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00:07:17 ◼ ► I mean look I'm wrong about a lot of stuff but I'm pretty sure about this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/437">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► just in case I'm not go check it out for yourself go to scrippsnews.com started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/440">TS</a>]
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00:07:28 ◼ ► about canceling before they do anything they can't tell you until you tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► to so go try it out to start building a site see how it goes for you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/451">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► you need to make a website or you gonna play on now just try to get their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/457">TS</a>]
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00:08:03 ◼ ► week it was a pretty big disaster in I didn't really know what was going on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/483">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► i've been really busy and so I have been following twitter is as religiously as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► usually do and I saw there was some issues and I didn't think a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/493">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► because everything seemed to be working on my computer and then all of us to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► one password and I was told I couldn't and suddenly the thing I wasn't paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/502">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► attention to became a lot more real so john wants to tell us what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/507">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► well so stop the run from the Mac App Store is DRM encumbered let's say some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/513">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► degree their receipts that the Mac App Store but the application Apple's advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/522">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► for figuring out on the launch of the application whether Abbas valleys to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/528">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► check those receipts this code that they you know some code samples showing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/532">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► but you really do it anyway you want some developers use OpenSSL library at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/536">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► bundle into their application of it sells an open source thing to check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► their certificates and their couple problems related as with most disasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► not just one thing goes wrong multiples one of the things that went wrong is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► that Apple updated their certificate for this recede to use a better encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/555">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► of a strong encryption they'd been using previously and it just so happens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► the OpenSSL library that a lot of applications used to validate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► receipts can't handle this new encryption level right so that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/568">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► class of things that are wrong side of things that went wrong is the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► Store certificate expired and Apple replace it with a new one that is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► they had the occasion I think there are places with the new one that had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► stronger corruption and as a bug in the Mac App Store where even if a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► certificate is issued after the Obama has expired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► some caching issue locally on the max that makes it not take the new even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/591">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► though the old one expired and so what people were getting was they were trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/598">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► to launch application and I just one application but some in some cases of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► advocating for every application they've got from the Mac App Store you would end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/609">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► up getting these dollar boxes save this application is damaged please throw in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/615">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► the trash basically the system telling you that it could invalidate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► authenticity is advocating this kind of the system working as designed and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► if some malware infected all your applications and Mike turn them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► Trojan horses and stuff you would want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► hey don't you know don't run this application that's messed up the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► dialog appears as if the violation machinery says you know like this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/635">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► the certificate expired and even though Apple had issued a new uneven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► application might have been able to use that new one to validate that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► was going on the local operating system was telling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► know you're trying to use certificate that expired like three days ago so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► you're on a lot so Apple fix this by downgrading their encryption to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► elders and I think so applications version of this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and I don't know what they did to fix the oven to tell people like to reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► and stuff I'm not entirely sure what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► yeah they said they're preparing a software update for iOS tend to prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► the caching issue in the future but I can help people who had this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► yeah I mean this this was a disaster on so many levels it it's kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/676">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► embarrassment mean so is the official statement they give which came pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/680">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► late six days later they made an official statement and it wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► that was at a public statement I think the email developers this thing I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► something to developers and they also they also gave a PR statement to sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► like I'm more into in a show notes this is a Apple is a lot of things they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► they don't put bad news or reactions to things on their own site you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► they'll send the same PR statement to like you know known friendly Apple sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► and have them all basically reported an apology behalf for them to the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/710">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► doesn't have to like soil their site with any kind of negative PR so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► statement they gave was I think it was a lot of BS and some truth there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/718">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► planned event and most users experienced no issues however some use experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/725">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► some issues during this change now that because the nature of this problem I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/731">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► think most users that is complete BS the idea that most users experience no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/738">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► issues and only some people had only some problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► know how it is there any way that Apple could know the actual answer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► because the Apple is not tracking I'm assuming how often we launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► applications and stuff so I don't think anyone really knows the scope of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► problem I you know I don't know I don't know honestly but but the fact is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/762">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► know this PR statement is trying to minimize the issue but if you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/766">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► know everyone is just guessing based on stories they've heard right I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► that's true I mean I suppose they could know like how many people get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► certificate server right i mean they can estimate an estimated from life support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/779">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► load because you can do some math and say if we get X numbers of your calls to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► this issue that means why people really had this issue you know just based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/788">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► historically speaking how many people will go to the phones are going to email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► about a particular issue you can kind of back at the envelope figure out based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► previous problems that you did have better metrics on my nose and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► using is like do you know somebody who had this problem with their computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► can say I didn't I actually did encounter the problem of many my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► computer but then again I tend to avoid buying applications and Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/811">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► but I do have some for example slap a broader than a Gap store and I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► every day and I had no problem with it is it because I'm always running it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► if you're like if you're running it and the certificate expires in August [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► probably the only to quit and launch it but I'm pretty sure I did clinton lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► during that window in heaven restarted so anyway I had zero problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/827">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► Casey had a problem some people had tons of problems I had many problems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► stories with the show the dialog box like 500 dialog box is popping up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► things anyway that the bottom line is that this was a problem that could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/838">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► potentially affected every single user is never purchased anything in the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/844">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► App Store that and it and it probably affected a lot of them because who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► know I maybe I just got lucky but like conceptually speaking this is you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/853">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► need a weird set of circumstances to trigger this problem I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/858">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► just need to have purchase things in a cab store to have your system cache the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/862">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► old city and then to launch them at the new one has been issued a check point at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/867">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► slack probably does not do receive validation on lunch because the free app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/873">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► care so the only after receiving outpatient would would have had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/878">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► problem I'm trying to get the Mac App Store apps I have I guess I have Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/883">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► you know pages and all that stuff from Iraq speed and that I tend not to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/888">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► the Mac App Store and that's that the second factor in this which is things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► like this especially for people who have no idea why this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► make them feel worse about the Mac App Store and people who have any clue about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/902">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► the details of the Mac App Store this widely make them avoid it more than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► did in the past I am avoiding it for a variety of reasons mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/910">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► they're you know the applications I use even when they were on the negative like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► BBEdit I never bought the Mac App Store version because it was crippled by Sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► boxing because of Apple's rules over have a choice between buying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► crippled sandbox version and the non crippled version and another nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► crippled version gives more money to the developer by the Niagara provision every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► time so it's what I've always done if there's any choice the one that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► Mac App Store it's always been like that's convenient you know I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/934">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► that much about it it's not a big deal or it's free like slacker whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► know it's more convenient than going to direct download it like I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► have the experience where I just go to one place and see all my apps and auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► update them know that is something I'd like those features the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► but perhaps they really count I'm definitely buying them outside but are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► people who were more towards the Mac App Store the like you know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/954">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► convenience is more important to me than like giving more money a developer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/958">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► the allegations I use don't suffer many soundbytes any issues and I really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► auto-update knows his stuff never mind the most Mac outside for the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/965">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► Store already using spark or something like that anyway for people who know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► about these details this is going to make them think twice because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/974">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► like before the tradeoff is worth it to me I will buy from the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► because the convenience is worth it to me for further potential downsides but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► now they're weighing that can be very versus like you know this day when all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/983">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► your absolute launch and you gotta figure out what the problem is and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/990">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► both short-term and long-term for the Mac App Store which is already not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► particularly beloved institution as far as developers and tech-savvy users are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► concerned that's the problem i mean it there's there are so many reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► already why you might want to be hesitant about buying the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► and why developers might want to be hesitant to be in the Mac App Store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► to just to add one more thing the pilot just a really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► and for that and it just seems like you know there is there's a good post by is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► it is it Michael Tsai and he he he made a post called there's nobody minding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► store is basically like you know collecting all these quoted everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► and pointing out just like the Mac App Store is just so neglected and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► been since its introduction you know the iOS App Store has its own set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► problems but the Mac App Store is so much worse in almost every way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► the fact that has a bug you know a certificate that's like one of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► problems with it that's only the most recent problem with it the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► itself the Mac App Store application is a disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► the the sandboxing issues have pushed out tons of good apps Mac after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► developers I i really feel sorry for the man and if I were launching a Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► I'm not sure I would put their like if you would have asked me a year ago if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► was on a Mac output in the App Store I'd say yeah probably you know what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► with myself distributing it so he appeared in the App Store but today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► don't think I would it just seems like it's not worth all of the downsides and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► costs it really depends if I was doing a Mac App I would say it really depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► what kind of a bad is because if it's a small apt if it's free yepper is an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► that you think will never be impacted by Sam boxing and you just don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► deal with you no corroborating sparkle and putting up your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► and point for that and making sure it's up for the updates and doing payment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► processing yourself and although the stuff that you have to do if you did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► direct sales records say you you don't have an existing channel for direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► sales esophagus or not established software company or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► definitely convenient to use the Mac App Store but if your app in App that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► wasn't true for even one of those things like could buy a potentially be impacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► by Sam boxing don't you know don't get the Mac App Store do already have a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► to accept money from people I don't need to make up store for that they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► know how to incorporate itself auto update and have a robust framework for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► doing that already have a website that have to keep up with so I can put an end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► than just you know there's no point if you feel like those things that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► I'm not actually mad developers I don't know but part of a part of this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► recent round of Mac App Store stuff in the TechNet circles with developers said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► reiterating see guys this is why I'm not in the maggot star and users like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► dayside thing writing out all the list of all the great Mac apps that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► in the Mac App Store like the Mac App Store even though many people think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► it as the only and best and single place to get back software a lot of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► software that uses really love love the best Mac software is just not on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► App Store and obviously that's not true and I West because it's pretty much all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► the software and I was on the App Store so it's always been in a comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► position with the Makassar because there is an alternate we all want there to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► an alternative that means the Mac App Store actually has to compete in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► same way that the iTunes Music Store had to compete against piracy the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► Store has to compete against direct sales and applications that can be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► powerful and do more powerful things and it's currently losing that competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► and even as a user everything and everything about the Mac App Store from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► a user perspective has gotten worse over time you know first when he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► chanting sandboxing you know that not only put out a lot of apps that made us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► home now we have to like exchange our license to go down to the directors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► everything so that that was a pain for for people who bought in early to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► App Store and then when simpson came in now like I hate sandbox ABS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► from the user side to use the guy I have a couple of one of them is called space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► kremlin it helps like finally earlier just basis and you know it has to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► your whole hard drive and the convoluted hoops that applicants have to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► click this button choose the root folder and every time you gotta like redo it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► know now it can't look at files that it's such a pain and FM user perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► just like sandboxing is I don't understand the Security benefits of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► but if it's a very rarely used opt in system those are all those are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► limited and I don't think it's worth it as I really don't like the way it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► way to Mindanao and it's incredibly you know half-baked and seemingly completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► neglected way I don't want it as a user has one more thing and Essendon you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► like this receipt validation bug that made all my apps just break all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► sudden like that's a big problem this what reason do I have as a user to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► more after the Mac App Store after all the problems and and you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► getting worse I i don't i don't see a good reason anymore but you stuck out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► there can be no reason like the plate one place you can go for the updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► it's easy to buy things there I wish the Mac App Store should also make it easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► to install but they don't really but beyond that like this all the pros are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► still there but the conscious keep stacking up in the constant go and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► same boxing thing really like the main problem with that aside from all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► bugs and all the other things that the poor Mac developers had to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► about how you know I was gets better tools for crash reports and debugging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► and betas and testified know those anyway aside from all of that Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► Store sandboxing like ISSN boxing and everyone gets along with it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► entire system the entire operating system the entire way of using the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► been built around the ideas and bison witches you know problems for data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► sharing and silly like URL schemes to get around all these things like still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► has some problems but it fits with the system on the Mac sandboxing flies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► the face of the entire history of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► platform and if you put sandboxing in that environment it it doesn't fit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1374">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► if your app happens to fit into a little nice and I think you're fine but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► whole classes of applications good useful applications that don't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► within sandboxing and it's like it's almost like Apple saying we really rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► really wish that you didn't have to have at like this on your Mac we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► really wish the Mac was like I was and so they say maybe we make all the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► apps PC and box then the Mac will be just like the iPhone but it's not and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► demarco just mentioned you know Sean Reilly disk spaces could have like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► System Preferences a disk space usage thing that did the same thing that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► part of the operating system like settings is on and I they could but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► don't and Mac users do have to manage a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► storage and automatic because of the way it is it's difficult to tell where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► that space is going because you have a lot of files and folders and although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► the stuff that again is not usable and I was so there is a place for applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► that do this type of thing same thing for like dis duplicate things like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► duper and stuff that's the thing you don't have to do with pounds because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► they've always had like love that the cloud backup now and are you back them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► up the iTunes will just push the problem on your Mac or whatever you going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► for the Mac we need a way to back it up and doing descanses a useful thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► and this client software needs to read the entire disk of course and sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► makes it a pain it can be done but it's a it's a big super pain so you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► like you can't make the mac as safe as iOS by merely just sayin applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► have to be sandbox all you can do is say some applications will be sandbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► it's good for them like it is a benefit to the user to have applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► can get outside their little pen and that they somehow get exploited or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► broken or there's a bug in them or whatever they can do less damage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► that other class of applications is never going to go away so long as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► Mac still is like it is long as the neck is still let you know an old style PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► operating system so I don't see what they can do about the tension of them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► you know make a tiered system and say sandboxes you can give you a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► label and store your sandbox and label if you're not instead they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► stubbornly saying everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► the sandbox and if you can work in the sandbox we don't want your kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► application on our platform and at least the tech-savvy users are saying you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► not want that kind of application on the platform but I want that location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► because I does useful things for me and so you make it no longer useful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► you'll never need to close this again because all your data is magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► backed up using quantum entanglement something great for you make it like iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► and you know with no local backup option everything is a cloud backup are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► gotta give me some way to do all these things that are into something symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► BBEdit where the text editor wants to be able to have like a file browser without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► throwing a stupid open save dialog box in your face that you know the power box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► thing to let you convince the system that you're allowed to access these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► files like you know a program-best I'll text editor when you browse the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► process is a useful thing to have because the Mac is a system that lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► you have files and folders and exposed to a file system and you can't deviate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► it is not useful if you can find to like a sandbox like environment all you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► doing is pushing the noise under the user to do silly things in the UI to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► convince the system that yes please let me be added to the text files no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► where they are in need to go you said he would it be nice if if Apple had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► included something like spacecraft later my preferred at daisy dukes have you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► seen about this Mac and then the storage have which is super useful and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► telling me that of the three quarters of a terabyte I have fall about half of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► is either the usage visa denial is not very granular but at the granular on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► level that I S Works perhaps you don't have direct access to managing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► storage there it's like all you can do about it is delete an app and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► goes with it maybe some apps you can go into the appetite to lead videos or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► whatever you know but the granularity of the information provided by the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► thing and iOS matches the granularity of the way you use iOS moralist the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► idea the Mac for good or for ill is files and folders you know let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► you how much as music how much as video and how much is a giant yellow bar for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► wonder how comes up with that a is not even a useful as I can be just not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► way the Mac works I need to know like I use it all the time especially backhand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► upgraded my computer shit 256 gig as a state and I would need to like hunt down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► you know some episode of My Little Pony that I didn't know her daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► downloaded iTunes today get out of the iTunes folder and delete the damn thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► you know and you can do that sometimes some of the night but you know even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► discovered that many people make that the virtual memory sleep image can push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► your disk space unlimited right because when you get a machine with a lot of RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► and a small SSD that really hard questions like do I really need the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► know the Hibernate functionality justice able to use old South Bend is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► hope that it doesn't run out of battery was only answer it's really ugly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► don't know what I when I saw that one password which just so happened to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► the first thing that that reared its ugly head when I saw that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► broken or well not broken but I saw that have been brought about the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► Store I realized what was happening very quickly but that was only because I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► seen some passing references to it on Twitter RSS what have you if I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► right the dialogue though said something like oh this is all broke go free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► download it and it doesn't even spell it says this application is damaged and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► should move into the trash right exactly and so the solution is free download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► from the Mac App Store the process of doing so they couldn't have made it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► obtuse and and manual if they tried like that's the thing is that you know I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► of know what I'm doing when it comes to using a computer I can't imagine someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► who doesn't follow this stuff I mean it's not that hard to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► Applications folder and drag it to the trash then go back to Mac App Store but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► that dialogue to your point Marco didn't really make it clear what the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► order of operations are corrected tasks was to fix this issue and it's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► was like one of you said it was a disaster from top to bottom it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► disaster all the way down and and it's a little frustrating that the most Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► did was say well you know screwed up but we'll fix it don't worry you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► dialog box they have all the information on the system to fix that in one breast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► if the system things that the application damages should be thrown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► there could be one button that says would you like me to redownload this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► cause I know exactly what it is and I know that you purchased it and I can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► in the trash and I can be downloaded for you because I know everything about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► the guineas like that the same thing with uninstall I get the install process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► really is drag it to the trash was not a big honking uninstall button in the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► a lot of his neglect of just like things they could do and they don't do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► speak in the collect our tipster in the chatroom insist loudly and has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► since this time that's happened at this bug about the certificate cashing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► already been reported there's already a radar for it and it's been around since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► I was 10 10.6 that's uncomfortable and has not been texting again it's tips or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► information so take with a grain of salt but there's not but it's it's the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► know it feels bad when your platform is not getting attention and various times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► Apple has ignored the Mac and then sell it said that like you know we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► care about the Mac were paying a lot of attention to end done lots of important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► things to the Mac but they're still areas particularly around the Mac App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► Store especially as it compares to the regular App Store that just feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► neglected and you know how many people do you think are actually tasked with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► working on this kind of thing that Apple right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► like you know Apple's teams are always lots more than you think they are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► apple also has has this cut this very frequent habit that from what I hear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► where engineers get pulled off with things all the time to go work on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► new projects need more engineering resources that is a newer thing or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► important to the current direction of the company or current business goals so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► people can move around the time and there is usually you know either nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► left working on boring stuff at the Mac App Store or a surprisingly small staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► like it might be like a handful of people doing some things have like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► person working on me know it's so a bug like that like it's it's not that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► the Mac App Store staff just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► you know is so big that they were it's more likely that almost no one's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► on this and that like an Apple keeps having problems like this where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► boring old stuff gets these kinda like either gets ignored forever and bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► like this around four years or he gets like these drive-by updates like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► it's all things like Discovery Day is a perfect example of this but we hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► El Cap USB stack might be something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► certainly we're hearing that the account Disk Utility is probably something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► this where it's kind of a drive by update where somebody is finally allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► to work on it and told to like you know revamping cleaning up a rewrite it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► something and you get like one pass it and what comes out is like 75% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► functional and then that person is gone incentive to work on something else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► it like this this is not the recipe for quality at all it's the complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► opposite of what you should be doing and it is not even an efficient way to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► an engineering organization Michigan some of the hundred developers Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► who don't have time to make an iPad up for Twitter cut itself which is set for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► all the people lost their jobs but they had and still do have a very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► number of people i mean to some degree I can kind of explain what we're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► understand that they've got a server-side components everyone everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► throws a big developer numbers of these companies they envision all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► working on the iOS app when Shirley perhaps the majority of them are working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► on backend stuff but the number of developers in these large BC funded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► companies hire lots of really smart people to work on one or two flagship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► mobile applications and then you compare them to the like one or two person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► independent shops writing competing third-party applications like how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► his Twitter have literally 100 iOS developers making their their iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► terrific has two people and you look at the two applications and you think their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► peers like they seem about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► right one of them is made by the company that makes the thing and it made by two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► guys and so I just a middleman month at a certain point adding more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► doesn't help and then you know this committee syndrome and people are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► know you can actually make any changes whitewater to its credit has been saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► that they're trying to you know become more efficient or whatever but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► seems to have the opposite problem we're like Marco said every story we hear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► you know there's actually one guy who's responsible for these three applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► and to give her release he does to minor updates each one fix some bugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► Crashers first and everything else at this time and there's gotta be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► in the middle there where you have a reasonable number of people empowered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► make good decisions to not just make a product but to continue to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► year after year after year like the hard way teams surely it's not like they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► the you know the iPhone for a center said every year let's make my time do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► anything except for to fix a broken home button right now to make a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► phone and they go you know the hardware gets better and better and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► the software depending on what it is can spend years without really moving inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► yet the Mac does have a lot of applications and some don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► change much year after year even when we feel like they should like maybe it's ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► the terminal application doesn't change dramatically from year to year but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► Mac App Store that everyone agrees has all these problems should really be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► getting more attention on Xbox of this week is mail route mail route really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2118">TS</a>]
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00:35:45 ◼ ► hosts I viewed as myself now for about a year I think and it is amazing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► never seen spam filtering this could I use this I recommend this personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► they can't pay me to say that they can payment every their script they cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► pay me to say that I use it and I recommended I use this I recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► I was skeptical at first I'll tell you I was very skeptical of putting some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► service in front of my email because email is very important for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► things and I i recognize that and so I was skeptical for a while and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► I tried it blew me away how good it was it removed any doubt I've never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► problems with them and the performance of the city of their spam filtering is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► really something else I have never seen anything like it I have tried so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► server-side rules most email hosts including fast mail have lots of spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► filtering options on server side you can do it made them can get quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► sophisticated honestly but even they were never as good as when I get from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► mail route today and we have to put almost no effort into it whatsoever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2201">TS</a>]
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00:36:54 ◼ ► pound relay anything if you run a mail server anything that you probably need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► for your business for yourself you can be dramatically useful to people who run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2218">TS</a>]
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00:37:33 ◼ ► ok so the long national nightmare is over you have acquired an apple pencil I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► have yes we have the iPad pro and we have the front smart cover only cause I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► couldn't i couldn't bring myself to spend $140 to cover the back as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► could face up to $400 buying a pencil so we now have iPad pro and the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► pencil and I love using the iPad Apple pencil however I am not much of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► artist I wish I had more reasons to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► fortunately my wife is an artist and does use it and she's had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► experience with it so please welcome on the show our return guests Tiffany are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2300">TS</a>]
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00:38:30 ◼ ► the artist formerly known as to assure you you're much better artist than I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► i know john has doubled in the past as well as I won't speak for him on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► certainly better than me and I think it's safe to say better than Marco so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► your ears we got for now anyway I don't know Marquez drawings are pretty amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► like his stick figures are killer Casey two-caliber gonna say given randall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► Munroe a run for his money not that good you made that awesome little decaf sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► with that said coffee mug that was super funny I can occasionally make it one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► decent dry I love his drawings I think we have to get rid of the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► have to you have to pass some skill threshold to have a reason to use any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► sort of artistic employment I agree no matter what it is that you're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► there's not like nothing bad will happen to you if you quote unquote can't draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► and you start dealing with the style like we all do it all again the margins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► are no books and everything just if it's fun to do and you find it relaxing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► meditated like I'm sure someone to have an incredible make the adult coloring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► book application for the iPad and it'll get it she will love it and I know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► is no like you don't have to I know Marcos looking for something useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► productive but if it's relaxing and fun to do you can try to meet you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► have any interest you can get better at it by practicing and learning about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► guess just like any other skill that I for the longest time I didn't even start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► doing anything because I was afraid to be bad and everyone's bad at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► though it was kind of a stupid fear but that's a kept me from even trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► draw anything ever and so recently I decided you know I'm like 32 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► I'm tired of being afraid of being bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► mad at something that I don't even know how to do this by the way listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► week's back to work which is basically entirely on that topic it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► alright alright pencils that I've already broken I was about to say he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► took the words right out of my mouth so how long did the pencil last from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► the time you had opened the cover of the box to its actually initial breakage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► about five seconds literally like I opened the box and I was looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► little card cause this comes at this card that also has inserts in it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► is on top of the pencil so I open that up in first I was pulling out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► card was the box flipped over the pencil fell out of the box it fell unto our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► floor and it the cap popped off this little silver ring popped off the cap in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► their pieces everywhere so but it turned out that functional it's just the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► of it was broken as a fair to say well the little tiny cap has this little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► silver ring that goes inside of it and it seems to be held on by nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► like a dot of glue so it just probably fell the worst way possible because not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► very tight in the case and in the box when it comes so it just kind of flipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► out in that little tiny ring popped up in the market has since super glued it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► back on and but I know it still feels funny to me I mean the Holst the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► pencil even with the ring in place the cap is not really fit tightly they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► in so many ways this pencil was like not designed for practicality which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► shame because it feels really good I can use it it works incredibly well as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► get to but you know I expressed concern earlier even when they when they first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► announced it that like there was there's nowhere to put it for one thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► no way to attach it to your put it into any kind of cover for the iPad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► exists so far which is so frustrating because where else you can use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► pencil nowhere nowhere else is essential to be used anywhere besides with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► MacBook Pro so why not attach it you crazy people right and and so and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► cap so if you want to charge this thing you know we also expressed concern when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► they first showed the soft two months ago whenever we also expressed concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► that you put it in the end of the end you put in the lightning port that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► just asking to be broken off that is so precarious and looks weird first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► but just so ridiculous and and it seems like possibly last minute they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► this like this double female lightning adapter that's in the box you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► can use it to reverse the orientation Attorney General lightning plug on it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► that you can charge it from a lightning cable which is way more scene and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► understand why they did it whatever you can't remember if you only have the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► in the pencil with you and you need a quick charge you can get one quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► just from the iPad it's nice to have that ability I guess but that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► should be the primary charge it and so I get that last second and it isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► problem is when you're charging it if you plug it in like yo overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► sometime if you're charging it when you put the cap you can magnetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► attached the cap to the one of the smarter and smarter than them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► stick the little captain its kind of wobbly really is designed to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► Johnny Ives white world and it and like it doesn't it doesn't seem like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► rolled around in the way he won't find it so you don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► rolling off the desk is it is weightless off a desk but it is it seemed like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► just made at every opportunity to break or get lost in like even when it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► the iPad to charge it had it lightning connector is extra long and it fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► like it's just everything about it is like loose and just waiting to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► break or get lost while the Cabaret almost went into the vacuum and the rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► of the air conditioner vent our house about two hours after I broke its I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► doing really great right now so I'm hearing a since they're so plentiful you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► should just just jumped on down to the local Apple store and get a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► backups because nobody's looking to buy a dozen and keep them in a big jar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► you lose one pencil box like ran i mean they're cheap they're plentiful no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► problems they're gonna sell so many things because people if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► I would guess you have to buy a new and probably once a year so so you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► least maybe even more depending on how careless you are a few things are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► know if you lose things lot like you couldn't have designed to be to be less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► practical for like forgetfulness or clumsiness if that makes sense I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► that clumsy or I never lose things I know where everything is in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► down to like the little tiny piece of anything I know where it is and losing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► can't believe how I comedy of errors happened yesterday when we got ahold of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► ya so like we actually so I I had pre-ordered where i read online that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► it has a ship date of like mid December and I wanted soon as I kept like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► know going into the stores until they had it and then I got I was able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► there but I'm not gonna cancel that pre-order for the for the one I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► need a spare and is it gonna be good to use have been buzzing find out if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► can draw on the screen with two pencils once thats Wow alright soon now that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► have a slightly damaged but otherwise functional pencil what is it like to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► and if you wouldn't mind can you set the stage as to describe you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► would normally do that's artistic with a pen or pencil you know where you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► drawing your own Rembrandt's or you just drawing stick figures I presume it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► well never gonna like sketching which i think the pencil I feel like it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► excels at it from you know actually developed a new signature if anyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► seen it on Twitter recently which is what I decided to do first with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► pencil is the most important thing develop your signature for your iPad are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► you writing checks from you if it's like naming your band in high school before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► you actually like practiced once forgotten to get my arm and i got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► names that was actually really fun to do on the pencil and it from what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► tested three programs now and that whatever it is it's really depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► the program and your level of skill with using these type of programs on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► great the pencil fields I do allow watercolor in real life not digitally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► to replicate that in a lot of programs as a little bit iffy obviously because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► you have you know you're dealing with like ink flowing and and pigment in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► water and dilution and transparency so that's a little tricky but the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► actually makes it really fun to play with on the iPad and with some medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► like trying to replicate a medium that's more solid the pencil really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► excels in it feels extremely fluid it doesn't detect your hand at all which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► really amazing and when you say it doesn't take your hand you mean if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► hand is on there it's not also drawing it smart enough to throw away the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► yeah it will detective fingertip if you accidentally remove a fingertip around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► but with most of these programs as you know like a race and backs though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► not like a ruining anything but with the palm detection is really like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► rest your hand on the iPad pro and draw and it doesn't it doesn't detect it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► doesn't smear anything it as a you know digitally smear under no mere so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► something else I don't know I'm from the island so you should I do I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► really really enjoyable and so far I've done a number of sketches with it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► keep wanting to do more I almost fell asleep last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► cradled next to me intimate but yeah I'm really enjoying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► COO of the city views with it what would you say is your favorite and corollary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► to that is that the best app for the pencil or do you just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► experience with that app the most well-marked petunia ones on today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► before that I was using Adobe's sketches that would I was using and then today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► you put on what did you put on a pro bono procreate and Jesus Japanese name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► that I forgot of another very popular schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► anyway so I was just recently just trying with those just before the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► and they have more of a learning curve I think because they're really involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► for artists that know what they're doing the Adobe sketch one was pretty easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► being a newbie using the pencil newbie to art you felt like you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► accomplishing a real work you know like you not just a little sketch that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► going to delete it doesn't matter if you really felt like you could do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► other ones they have so many changes and buttons inflows and this and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► interface is a little bit trickier to navigate if you don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► doing but I feel like that those other programs are the programs that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► move onto after you kind of mastered how to manipulate the pencil with different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► mediums that are available and a lot of these programs and the name I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► forgetting before it was a tie a tie Suu sketches I actually went to the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► store this past weekend and spent maybe a minute may have two minutes using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► pencil I did ask one of the employees if they had any in stock and they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► left my face I mean they were much nicer about it and that that that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► message was he had now but I did play with briefly I only used the notes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► and again I'm no artist but I thought it was cool I thought the tilting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► pencil on its side the lake shade was kind of neat but I don't know why but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► the thing that blew my freaking mind was when I got the Notes app out and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► put on the the on-screen ruler have you played with the staff no I haven't so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► the Notes app you can bring up in on-screen ruler ended behaves like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► have a ruler on the page it's not perfect because there's no physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► barrier to keep you from you know flinging the pencil across your iPad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► it does oh really darn good mimic of water rulers like it it's so stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► I know why found that some press it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► but I just thought it was really really really cool see you mean I keep the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► straight correct right so you can draw up against the ruler and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► perfectly straight line and you can you know spin the ruler round as he spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► total of it shows what angle it's at and it was just very very neat I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► why I personally would ever need to do that but I just thought it was so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► implemented and so well done I also went to the store recently got to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► the pencil I was the first thing I was struck by was in the Apple Store the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► pencils not hatch for things like it's not attached with the little bankers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► know little metal beaded chain thing it is just loose in a little creative thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► is I have to imagine those things are walking out the door like crazy at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► especially when they are rare but anyway I did get to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► although the first thing that confuses me with a conveyor why wasn't working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► do is paired with the one like they had the pencil in the middle of two iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► pros it was paired with the other ones I just plugged into my thing and repair it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► was just nice that feature that repairing feature is cool and comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► handy to know the stupid Bluetooth thing to parents using it I experienced things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► we talked about a Pashos varies widely my appt some of them are slow some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► them are fast the Notes app was the fastest one that I tried because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► had a bunch of different apps installed on it it was fun it was interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► note that the pencil tool that's both look like a pencil to keep saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► oh you can tell to do shading and stuff like that that is the one part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► notice that that felt the least like real media to me and my my biases that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► have habits in my you know my hands and you know my mind and my body from using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► real pencils and stuff for many many years when I was a kid and every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► use anything that involves like drawing on a tablet screen or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► almost as if it was farther away from the real thing out few more comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► because then I wouldn't be trying to use the the you know the the motions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► gestures that I'm used to from the real physical world of art media but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► pencils close enough to real media that I expected to look work more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► pencil and that still shaking thing just does not work anything like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► pencil and so I was continually frustrated by the fact that I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► I would do with an actual pencil and start doing with this pencil demands in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► particular I found that a lot of the ones that I draw I draw with the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► tilted at such an angle that the accelerometers in the pencil think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► want to do shading but in reality but the real physical pencil on paper I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► still just using the tape and I find that very frustrating and maybe have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► change how I was doing everything to be more directly into the into the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► to make sure it doesn't then line if I could disable the shaving thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► change like the ratio but don't even start shaving thing until I'm super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► tilted over yeah that really bother me a lot but that's just that I think that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► more of a barrier of like people who are good at using computers to draw it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► actually I think it'd be different enough skill from people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► using you know pencils or pens or paints or any other me like the media really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► think that you're using the medium really does change how you think so if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► got one of these and I was actually using it to draw I think I would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► have a learning curve to learn how to use this tool to draw in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► that you learn how to use in the leg while pastels vs oil paid Services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► acrylics or anything like that but bottom line is I feel like this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► this could could be used to very easily be used by someone to do their work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► an artist because it is so close to in terms of responsiveness you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► real pencil it so much closer than all the things I've used in the past I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► heard from actual artist even the people are using the top of the line current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► generation tablet type things that it's pretty good at either better than or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► least as good as the existing tablet technology so good job for Apple and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► alright its first right not counting the new and once again for new number desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► you feel bad when I say this first try not to noon doing really good pen input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► the pencil feels really nice like it doesn't cramp your hand while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► using it which is great it is very comfortable and before when I was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► the iPad pro I felt the weight of the iPad perot all the time without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► pencil so I was sitting with a we are watching movies I tried to read with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► some people think that that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► the reading experience is really great I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► it awful on the iPad pro it is way too big but when I was getting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► pencil I the way it just kind of disappeared and I kind of didn't notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► it and it felt so natural and great to have this really big screen so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► experience with the iPad throw itself without the pencil was a disaster and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► i kno wasn't sure I even wanted it to keep it and I didn't I played with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► for a few hours and then I kinda left it on the table you know I didn't I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► interested in using it any further than that because it felt just too heavy too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► big too much stuff going on or too little stuff with the home screen icon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► end but as soon as I got the pencil it has been in my lap every free moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► that I can possibly find do not subscribe to any magazines like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► digital or otherwise I think magazines like you know I don't know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► described to Martha Stewart's magazine actually but she filled it all up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► ads like her real magazine and now it's horrible to read and the ads move on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► digital ones though it was worth it that's a no I don't I tried to read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► did some didn't really slow so I tend to prefer the paper ones my wife read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► magazines on her iPad she still thinks you are many to get a full size one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► I can imagine the best application as I'd like comic books like that for a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► gigantic iPad would be magazines with big big illustrations or photos like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► photography magazine nature magazine fashion magazine a car magazine like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► could see those being amazing but I mean when I read romance novels I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► don't want that very large and visible to everyone in the way you can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► about it for the iPad Pro for reading is if you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► could imagine yourself comfortably reading a paper book of that size is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► great for the soul of the magazines that paper magazines are especially the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► large ones like magazine before they get made it crappy but anyway you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► don't have big bogus these days but there are magazines that are very large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► and it's a sure I can do that but novels are paper books paperback size usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► are not as big as the iPad pro in most cases most of paperbacks that I myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► even the biggest ones I have up here are more or less for iPad air two sides not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► iPad process so it is a little over sized but others have last week the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► whole ideas maybe not for reading novels or anything you can have other stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► the screen at the same time so you can bounce back and forth between Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► and flipping through the latest issue of you know car driver or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► that's the general theme that that we found so far the iPad perot is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► really good for certain things but that is it doesn't overlap completely with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► what the smaller iPads are really good at like you would think that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► what that what the iPad probe agree that would be a strict superset and where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► would include everything the small ones are good at plus also some new stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► I don't that's actually the case and that's ok you know it in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► that like a 17 inch MacBook Pro may rest in peace is not great at everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► want a laptop to be too to be four you know if you want to be using it on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► plane or if you want to carry it around the time 17 inch MacBook Pro is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► great for that that doesn't mean that the entire MacBook Pro line has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► small thin and light you know so now we're reaching the point with the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► lineup that it has substantial differentiation between the models now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► and that's okay you can't just be sure that if you like one of the iPad's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► can't be sure that the next one up will be better in every way for you to if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► you work to do to your parents house for a few days would you bring it with you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► really good question probably not because I don't have time to sit and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► or draw or paint anything so I never brought my painting supplies there even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► though I have travel ones so probably not but I would bring my regular size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► iPad because sometimes I do like to read when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► they're like during naps their evening or out of town but so so no probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► wouldn't because this really pick two and the internet connections of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► great I'm assuming since you wouldn't bring it to mom and dads that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► probably wouldn't bring it on like a trip or something like that like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► say you know tested as European delivery which I understand makes no sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► you guys maybe all of us go again would you bring this on that sort of a trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► now I wouldn't I wouldn't because I'm not a digital artist I'm just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► learning and getting interested in trying to do it because it is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► john was saying it's very different holding a stylist to a screen and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► moving or a brush with bristles that are dynamic and move-in swirl translating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► that if they if that's what you want to do is you want to paint something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► satisfying that doesn't happen on the iPad but if you want to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► create a digital piece of art which I find is is just like another medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► until you know yet paint you have pencil you have digital are like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► another way to do it and there is another set of skills that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► learn and develop so if I got into that then yeah I would see myself carrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► this with me to accomplish that task if I want to create a digital Journal of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3655">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► trip I was going on but as of right now no because I'm just not enough I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► skilled enough but I can definitely see a place for it for other people but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► me it's it's just too big a digital journals like that that is a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► people should aspire to make the iPad probe into a good tool for alleged terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► of people some people do this as a people don't like to like a while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► on the trip so you're going on a trip to Europe while you there at like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► end of each day that you take the photos off your camera put them right into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► iPad 4 with the USB port that will talk about it a little bit maybe use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► various applications available on the iPad pro to compose it a cool in a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► page or slide show or a movie or something you can share with everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► else in at the end of each day you would send out to your family or whoever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► here's how are you know second day in italy was right or just even just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► working on it so that by the time you come home from the trip you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► everything sort of assembled together into whatever form that you decide you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► want to share your trip with a series of pictures or a slide show or a movie or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► web page with a bunch of pictures and blog post all the type of things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► all know that we can do with computers and websites a lot of I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► existing image of the iPad in most people's mind and then the reality for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► most people other than maybe she is that the best way to synthesize all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► photos video text web stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► emailing people compiling all that information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► the best way to do that is still on a Mac and I see no reason the iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► can't be as good or better at almost all those things especially with the stylist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► in but if you want to add take pictures like a magic arranging pictures in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► like an application let you sort of vilification album where you could hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3764">TS</a>]
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01:08:06 ◼ ► use the pencil if if you could make use of such a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4086">TS</a>]
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01:08:22 ◼ ► already but if you if you're using your iPad primarily for content consumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4102">TS</a>]
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01:10:10 ◼ ► this is worth touching on briefly would you use it for photography is so why if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4210">TS</a>]
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01:11:09 ◼ ► editing your photos not screen that you have calibrated with a printer that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4269">TS</a>]
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01:14:00 ◼ ► at all in a handheld battery-powered device yet again will be nice though but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4440">TS</a>]
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01:14:40 ◼ ► me guys are found a spot for this week is automatic automatic is it connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► car adapter that plugs into your car's diagnostic port and integrated over 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► different apps plus their own apt to give you tons of functionality and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► better driving experience go to automatic home / ATP to see for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► get 20% off now you can check your check engine light if if you have any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► engine error code automatic will explain to you in plain English what is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► and certain area code you can just pick something and then automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► actually clear the warning after you fixed it also gives you a lot of trips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► he takes who you can you can track things for business if you need to log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► your miles your business or if you're curious about your your gas mileage fuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► efficiency can help you track all of that you know track your parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► location you never lose your car and if you if you need help in an emergency if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► automatic can automatically call the emergency services for you in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► accident that's really really great benefits here now they also recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► launched apps and a whole SDK so if you get automatic com slash at you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► browse they have over 20 a so far adding more all the time you can use your card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► data and all kinds of new ways one of the biggest ones is they have paired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► with if this than that I have TTT however the pronounced as you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► can build recipes in if this than that based on your driving behavior and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► driving events and so we can do things like when I'm close to home in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► use my nest thermostat to automatically turn the air conditioning on so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► get home is nice and cool things like that you can really do amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► with some of these out things like FreshBooks integration pebble Smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► Watch integration all certainty that you can even send euros in the yo app which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► is a real thing so they've launched developer platform and you can go check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► developer still go check out the apps automatic can do lots of great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► now you can get automatic normally it's a hundred bucks it's a great deal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► hundred bucks but using our code are match.com / ATP you will get 20% off so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► it's only 80 bucks and that is a one-time charge there is no monthly fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► to use the service nothing like that it is one time no subscription no recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► payments one time just 80 bucks with that link on match.com / ATP you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4614">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► free shipping and 45 day return policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► totally risk free check it out today are mac.com / ATP thanks a lot to automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► response show once again make users more about the iPad pro I believe for now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► can talk about the USB thing but I can stay at least we have to get more info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► about the bottom line is that the iPad Pro is definitely the device for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► want to have a speedy way to shove stuff into it and Apple has said that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► going to be able to do that with usb3 speeds is there really a lot of emotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► behind tethered over the cable transfer of files to iOS devices these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► imagine it's imagine it's all cameras right like if you can connect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► camera directly to your yes you do it wirelessly if you wanted but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► connect your camera or some other card reader thing directly to your iPad then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► you could go on the road with just the iPad and the camera and do some useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► work that's true that actually and you know I might use it for that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► there are some trips where I bring my laptop now go to a conference I bring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► laptop but I really don't usually need it for any kind of laptop a function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► that I can't serve just as well buy my iPhone or an iPad so you know I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► see the value in having that they've they've had ever since the first iPad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► sold the camera connection kit which has even been able to be in St card reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► or a USB port which you can use the plugin also decreased if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► but a surprising amount of driverless USB peripherals work on iPads with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► camera connection kit and some even work on iPhones anyway so I could see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► being being possible because the camera connection kit is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► fairly rarely sold accessory as far as I know that they've never seem to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► whole lot of effort into the the process and the capabilities of importing photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► off the camera card into the photos Apple iPads so I don't know how how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► it would work in practice I haven't try it next week and how it works and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► wouldn't expect you to do very well may 14 megapixel raw files that that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► usb3 speeds like that's the big thing lighting part mysteriously not those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► speeds and it's kind of a pain if you have taken that files and now with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► iPad pro this part is capable I don't know how yet if they're not yet but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► will be capable of USB 3 speeds and so that would really help I mean generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► when it comes to light processing raw photos on something like an iPad the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► no I think the processing power of the devices limit because when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► president raw files you have to do the deed the reading and the JPEG conversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► on on device it is never done for you and the cameras all have these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► specialized image processors to do it in like you know how the apparel optimized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► way the computers are doing it generally you know on the CPU entirely or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► with some light GPU help and it's it's a pretty slow process to do large Roy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► imports so I'm guessing that be much more useful for JPEG shooters or even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► the raw + JPEG weirdos like I was briefly but 44 action for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► shooting RAW who wanted to let you know a couple of quick imports to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► somebody or preview or post to the social network I probably won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► useful for that but I'd love to try between wrong so maybe I'll try I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► mean this distance thing says the file transfer and then there's the conversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► even just for display purposes so if you can make the part where just copies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► raw data directly on the card and onto the iPad faster than it gives you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► time to spend with your slower CPU doing their own conversion for display anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► even if it's not just for photography the idea the lighting this is an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► question is about is licking their back online part was made it like lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► how fast will go why did not use USB why did not change it to you is BC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► is it even possible to do usb3 speeds over lightning oh no you can't doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► have enough pins because the usb3 connector has more pins than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► contacts that are on the Lightning connector and this link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► notes from someone who did a lot of you know investigation into lighting part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► backordered introduced this rainer a broader Hoffs blog and he has come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► to talk about the lack of pins and citizen he came down to is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► don't need all the pains of a real USB thing because they have dedicated pins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► for the USB two speeds and lighting doesn't have to do that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► multiplexing it's a look at home not doing USB two speeds or something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► but we'll see it I think people who are doing tear downs on the iPad pro said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► they found two new look like two new connectors inside there so maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► adapters will have extra contacts I don't know how to work while to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► till these adapters are introducing if they're already out I just haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► them yet so there's some fall for next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► alright thanks let two or three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► Squarespace mail route an automatic and we'll see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► now the show they didn't even mean to begin accidental accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► I do very much want to talk to you but I think we're better off tonight talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► about the iMac that's totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► alright so I'm not my computer to be clear the Mac Pro 2008 Mac Pro still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► here I'm speaking into it right now this is a replacement for my wife's 2011 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► MacBook Air which was getting long in the tooth in our photos couldn't fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► anymore so we had an external SSD but it was only fire 800 and I was part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► reason I thought photos might have been slow and anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► done big fancy new iMac after hearing Marco report good things about his 2709 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► action as the new from your fancy a model with even nicer screen and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► knows that she just wanted I magnin on freeway even as he took the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► how the room on a podcast so she could so use a computer without being here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► they might still have the MacBook Air is just moved over to the other desperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► using a Mac and like me a few things for me to report that I never really spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► any time with markers I saw it and the ones in Astoria they've seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► temporary spending time with them from mine I decided to not max out the RAM I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► didn't do too much research into this but I just saw in the in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► configurator it said 16 gigs for like two dams and 32 easier for a pic 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► figuring that despite Mr Dempsey and up to 32 later that's not true don't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► me until four years from now when I find out what I should probably fine I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► the biggest fastest GPU because whatever like I was going to buy the YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► video fingers crossed this will actually not be something to do my kids can now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► play it by now seeing minecraft at non disgusting frame rates and I think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► more impressed than they are but I think at the same time they're never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► use the plate on a MacBook Air again I don't blame them and I got the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► terabyte St because I really want to fit everything on this thing instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► external drive which I still have but it's an enclosure that expire 800 so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► also had two by the way by a lightning to Thunderbolt to firewire 800 out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► so I could connect my chain of firewire 800 drives and everything but it's mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► I'll have USB 3 hard drive that I can finally connect to actually use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► report and I was one of the first things I noticed about this was I have a bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► powered one terabyte like 2.5 inch USB 3 drive for a while and I decided I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► going to use this I was used as the clone drive for this year 10 a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► duper clones and I kept finding that when the Mac would go to sleep and wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► back up it would say this disc was not ejected properly bubble blower like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► was unmounting itself somewhere along the line and that usually means I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► it's being under powered by the bus and it's just you know not able to maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► the connection but then it comes back I don't understand it because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► connected to a hub is directly connected to the computer and I have never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► that problem than any other computers are connected this to but then again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► haven't had it connected to other computers for really long period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► so I know if I have a broken drive if the ports in the back of the USB the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► iMac can supply enough power for this thing whatever it is that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► annoyed me but i wanna talk about the thickness of external peripherals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► right now Allen I only connected when I wanna do a clone which is a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► solution I suppose although I have a whole their drive at the end of the fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► and change to do if you want to have an enclosure that I have bought like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► of them now it's something like twelve dollars at City usb3 single disc 2.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► inch closer and its I had one of them would would do the exact same thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► it was on a really freaky USB hub that I used to have and so far this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► enclosure to them that I bought have been perfect and for $12 it's been just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► as good as like the expensive ones I've gotten from OWC and stuff in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► that's what I had to do that I never considered because I knew that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► work but even direct connect them a closely so I don't know anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► the main thing I noticed about this iMac off the bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► is that the fan in all states it slowly noisier than I thought it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► forced to really even in the most I don't like nothing is happening on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► computer I i download video that shows me the fan rpm like the lowest possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► rpm I can still hear it more than I could hear the fan on the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► for two reasons one the MacBook Air was like back a little bit farther like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► was kind of behind the monitor and to the left and to win the MacBook Air fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► it is a really quiet now the flip side of that is that you do anything to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► MacBook Air the fan goes up to Super you know they can possibly go and sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► like a terrible angry hair dryer right so when iMac you can do way more before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► the fans start spinning up so overall it's probably benefit but every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► sit in front of a computer I keep thinking that the hard drives on cause I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► have something for guard that's going to this thing from a different backups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► I don't leave them on all the time like actually unmount them and turn them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► and you know like a hard drive and spinning make some noise mechanical hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► drive I keep thinking that while if one of the drives on the nose just stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► fans think anybody thought my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► sign it's probably still choir than my 2008 Mac Pro though maybe not going that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► grows on the ground in early here that that is my one mild disappointment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► everything else about it is great screen looks great I don't even mind that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► looks actually kinda cool but they do see it from the edge sometimes for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► while I kept thinking that the hinge was loose because it kept going to lay down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► this is my wife she could still take it down the night fighting over what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► correct position is the screen but the more obvious a different types their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► photos is faster and is much faster than it was in my car and drive it is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► slow and is still weird and buggy when I when I brought the library over you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► how to top it off my external drive that took forever and throws really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► about I copied every single file over and photos was like I have sixty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► thousand files to important like no you don't they're all there and so had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► wait for like three days for it to convince himself that had all the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► on it at some point it was like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► have enough disk space I'm like how I don't have it you know I have plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► space I'm not even like a quarter filled in this terabyte drive so photos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► weird and does weird things and scared he sometimes but in the end I just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► it stew for a long time it was fine I still haven't removed my most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► backup of my otha library so if this thing is lying to me I still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► everything as like you know when I got the new iMac but that was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► tricky and boy copying the photo library in the Finder that took so long and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► there are so many files involved with that in the Finder gives you a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► bit of a finer spends like a long time like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► bit of a finer spends like a long time like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/5396">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► he wasn't half hour maybe with more than our preparing to copy not going to copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► it's preparing to copy it's gotta count all the files and I don't know what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► doing to me it's free flying to make sure the spaces available like I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► use the CPK man just start chopping things what do you like to use rsync for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► flags on these things that make up the other metadata like no I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► what I was doing with the 411 be used to find it eventually did work remember I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► copping from as a city to SSD here so it's you know it's hot as fire r800 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► internal SSD is not as a waiver spinning disk to send the heads-up play seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► all over there was terrifying it actually did work so yeah so far so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► another file thing I can put this in here I spent like three days fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► with this damn computer that felt like I was going back in time there was 10 Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► Machine spotlight we're just not happy time machine seemed happy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► beginning because it's like oh you know my name I could do the same as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► before I did migration as a sense like I told you this descriptor machines like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► you only get inherit the backups from the previous thing and I did because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► like basically that was you know I copy the hard drive over there yes please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► inherit the backup so I don't lose all my previous versions so it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► backing up to this thing and I told us to do that and I noticed that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► spotlight in Time Machine we're just not ever finishing what they're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► be doing spotlight was always the you know seemingly indexing in the console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► is filling up with tons of like Mt worker errors and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► Time Machine would never actually complete a backup ever ever ever after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► several days this I spent a long time staring at the council and cooling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► things and finding all these weird obscure errors and people are like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► just nuclear spotlight star and you know I did all the things you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► doing with them to you till like totally removing a thing disabling spotlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► trying to let spotlight go first trying to buy time machine go first I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► know what their problem was but they were totally wage and neither one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► spotlight indexing when I complete in time she will not complete and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► very refreshing because I really can't basically sign off on the computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► ready for use until time machine is running really care that much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► spotlight so I spent many days fighting with that and googling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► and eventually got the thing to go through what the hell was I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► remember what the problem was one of those things where it's not like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► was no aha moment I you know if if you like Google for all these error messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► you find a million hits on Apple's discussion boards of people the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► problem sometimes they're benign sometimes people say list of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► for me nothing I found help me fix it eventually I just had to go to the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► school kinda bugging room using like lsof and stuff to figure out who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► hell has these files open and are they files that I can even delete or re- copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► one of the solutions involved me deleting my old user account that had on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► that machine because spotlight isn't as indexing the files of the logged in user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► its indexing the files on by all the different users at the same time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► some of the counselors you're saying you're not from the counter logged into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► and like 10 make sure you log into every account update the clock cloud stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► I did that it didn't help the boy was one of the problems where every solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► you find you're excited this is gonna be the thing that makes it and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► but I did them up in a way I deleted my account from there which took with it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► lot of files that apparently of the various spotlight metadata diamond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► importe things I can be working in the US where choking on badly and that led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► to progress and eventually spotlight and text anyone spotlight in next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► machine worked and I just made me think that there's no way in hell that anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► could have successfully fix this if they didn't have the if they want a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► who's willing to spend literally three days just googling and and cursing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► googling and cursing and part of it is probably because like you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► my gracious assistant and it's like an old account that maybe like had a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► of weird crafty things in it from a long time ago but you know we're going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► you should just gonna clean so this is the first time I Gration assist system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► has steered me wrong and really I just blame it was followed her timesheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► about for just not being more about us find their files up also isn't it weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► that you can import their car causing AMD worker to crash just just move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► just you know power through it like then don't index those but if an ironing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► understand why spotlighting time machines seem to Wed each other in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► way because time machine should work without spotlight and vice versa but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► period so that was a bad sort of first couple days experience but eventually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► did get into a steady state and now I have mounting back up so I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► finally expand my back up some nice analogy which by the way was nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► easy because I just got the added you know they don't have trouble reading had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► another drive to think but I just converted from the raid 1 raid 5 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► from two discs its rate and so got more space that all worked out so for the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► noise things going better for a second cause I my iMac is is almost inaudible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► and and the same is almost inaudible when it's when it's not doing that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► and and really under any load accept a sustained heavy lift if I Hanbury or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► asked if his a-game running then you will hear the fans but in every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► time I don't hear the fans at all so I'm curious now of course if you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► had something like I start menu's installed by did I install the thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► see their family at 1200 rpm I can hear ok that's good that's as you say mine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► idling at 1200 and is that loud like it's it's not a loud fan is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► I mean I'm surprised in a room that that that includes a Mac Pro is one thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► notice like if I went from two macros 22 IMAX and when you would turn off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► iMac of them in the Mac Pro leaving the iMac behind it was clear as daylight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► when we only had one and one for like a day or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► the difference was clear as day like that the the Mac Pro was so we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► thought was quiet relatively speaking but it's so easily would mask the noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► of the iMac yeah my macros asleep most of the time it does the closest thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► the iMac is the ps4 but it's also a sleep unless I was playing but really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► can only hear that Mike when I'm sitting in front but that's one who knows me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► that sound oh it's a stupid again not loud at all but I just feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► should be like the MacBook Air with literally inaudible when the computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► idle and you could hear it at all that was like I was grinding in the back row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► doing something like that and this is close to inaudible but not so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► that big of a deal but it'd be nice if you just like they just need to put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► even bigger lower rpms and it's not like you don't have room space to spread out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► big leave the fan blades turning it like you know hundred rpm go for it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► have it as you said you liked the thin edge you see from the side sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► that's why that's why we can't have nice things done that we can have been quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► fans even with the thin and there's enough room for like a frisbee in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► big screen and speaking that so like her computer is always the one that we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► not sleeping cuz it was plugged into AC all the time and I was going to have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► here that the wake all the time to sell you to go for a lot of that rolled her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► computer is always awake and with the iMac it was weird to see Nos 10 I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► know this is a new development of the handout IMAX for a while but like with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► built-in screen computer there's not separate settings for display sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► apparently there's one saying that says do you want me to prevent the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► from going to sleep when the display sleeps and there's one slide it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► when should the display go to sleep I would like to say let's play go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► sleeps 10 minutes computer go to sleep on our like you used to back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► olden days and how I can on my Mac Mac Pro other but you can tell you that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► check box and I need to just looking to the peerless settings just changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► though I wanted you can also you can set a hot corner to do immediate display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► sleep yeah and you just have a doubt I know it's just like I'm using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► sliders that the way they used to be and I'm also known as some spooky behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► arcade like you leave the computer known such a nose doing anything and display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► will go off and whether it sleeping or not you come back a little later in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► label beyond I've been sitting in the room I tap and I've been like plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► destiny outlook over the screen turns unlike you turning on and you know wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► for network access is off no weird USB hubs are attached the console is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► anything about what the thing is it's like did you wake up or did the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► and sometimes the screen just won't go you know that interval go by 15 mins ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► by an ice cream monkey off so I've got my eye and it I'm sleep issues like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► don't care cause is based on all the time anyway but you know what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► there in forever that I know the issue you're talking about I've seen that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► the past and other computers but I have never seen that either of our IMAX so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► don't think it's a it's an issue with the iMac I think it's an issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► probably so maybe it's that weird USB device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► maybe maybe it's a plague enclosure the plug is that thing is unplugged so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► that's not a fair maybe the fire where the fire was just powered off I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► know anyway I gotta figure out how to make this thing happen MCM too much has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► happened once or twice and then one morning I can dance at the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► screen on so maybe was on all night anyway it's it's behaving now Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► computer can't sleep it's like when you too much chillin nearly 35 like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► your computer has so many windows it just it just keeps can't go to sleep my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► computer its her computer doesn't have that many things on it is only 50 she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► someone does is one of the things that make that he remember when it came time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► to order this is going to the order configuration thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► asked my wife if she wanted which math she wanted or if you want to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► measure trackpad and to my surprise you should she wanted to try to Magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► Trackpad because she already had a mouse that you liked and we got the extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► keyboard which is still in the box because she like they keep using your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► old ones that we have an extra now but anyway she picked a magic trackpad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► not for me still like it's magic is that maybe I still use the mouse I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► going to attract bad person so far remains to be seen if she will make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► transition she's been trying it and messing around with that but I think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► I look over there now I think the mouse is still next to the keyboards I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► she liked the measure track that down and uses it and I don't know I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► when you talk talk talk of the sound different mouse but anyway there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ3N12A/4210">TS</a>]