Connected

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00:00:07 ◼   ► From Really FM, this is Connected, episode 467.

00:00:12 ◼   ► Today's show is brought to you by NetSuite, Squarespace and ZocDoc.

00:00:17 ◼   ► My name is Mike Hurley and I try to channel the energy of the one and only Federico Vittucci.

00:00:22 ◼   ► Ciao Federico.

00:00:23 ◼   ► Ciao Mike, how are you?

00:00:25 ◼   ► Oh, I'm good. I'm excited about today's episode.

00:00:28 ◼   ► Mmm. Yes, me too.

00:00:30 ◼   ► And it's also my pleasure to introduce someone who's not at his usual location right now,

00:00:38 ◼   ► coming directly from California into your ears, Mr. Steven Hackett.

00:00:44 ◼   ► Hello, Steven from California.

00:00:46 ◼   ► Hi. Hello.

00:00:47 ◼   ► Are you surfing it up?

00:00:49 ◼   ► Surfing it up, bro.

00:00:52 ◼   ► Are you on the mavericks over there, you know?

00:00:55 ◼   ► Just ripping some fat maverick.

00:00:56 ◼   ► Checking out El Capitan.

00:00:59 ◼   ► Air cap. Oh, we call it air cap.

00:01:01 ◼   ► Oh, sorry. My non-California is showing.

00:01:04 ◼   ► Yeah, really. Jeez, get with the vibe, bro.

00:01:07 ◼   ► I suppose I should.

00:01:09 ◼   ► Yeah, we got our man in the field.

00:01:11 ◼   ► That's right.

00:01:12 ◼   ► Steven, I read your wonderful art.

00:01:14 ◼   ► You've been doing some good work over at 512 pixels this week.

00:01:19 ◼   ► 512.

00:01:20 ◼   ► You've been writing some good articles.

00:01:21 ◼   ► I'll put them in the show notes.

00:01:23 ◼   ► But you were at the Apple event that was yesterday.

00:01:27 ◼   ► Yep, yesterday.

00:01:28 ◼   ► Oh, boy.

00:01:29 ◼   ► Yeah, man.

00:01:30 ◼   ► Something happened less than 12 hours ago, and I just don't know, you know?

00:01:34 ◼   ► 24 hours ago even.

00:01:35 ◼   ► Like, this is what iPhone week is like.

00:01:39 ◼   ► And you had a bunch of hands on time.

00:01:41 ◼   ► We spoke about it a little bit in the pro show, getconnectedpro.co.

00:01:45 ◼   ► But had a good 24 hours?

00:01:48 ◼   ► I have.

00:01:49 ◼   ► It's definitely hectic.

00:01:51 ◼   ► Super fun to be at my first iPhone event.

00:01:53 ◼   ► And I've been to a bunch of WBCs, but this is a special thing.

00:01:58 ◼   ► And I was able to soak that in and get a bunch of impressions

00:02:02 ◼   ► and hopefully do a good job taking in everything

00:02:05 ◼   ► that Apple had to offer this week.

00:02:06 ◼   ► But as our man on the ground, you wrote some impression stuff.

00:02:12 ◼   ► And I wanted to touch on a few of the things

00:02:14 ◼   ► that you wrote in your article.

00:02:16 ◼   ► So you had some time with the Apple Watches.

00:02:19 ◼   ► I don't think we were going to talk about this-- well,

00:02:21 ◼   ► we wouldn't have because we didn't presume it--

00:02:23 ◼   ► this new double tap feature that they've added,

00:02:25 ◼   ► where you can like-- it's like the Vision Pro gesture, right?

00:02:28 ◼   ► Where you pinch your fingers together to activate something

00:02:31 ◼   ► on the watch.

00:02:32 ◼   ► It says, "The new double tap gesture is really neat,"

00:02:34 ◼   ► is what you said.

00:02:35 ◼   ► "In my demos, it worked perfectly every time.

00:02:37 ◼   ► Also, I was told directly that there is not

00:02:39 ◼   ► an API for third party developers

00:02:41 ◼   ► to integrate this into their app beyond use of notifications.

00:02:44 ◼   ► Once you're in a third party app,

00:02:46 ◼   ► there's no double tap support, at least for now."

00:02:48 ◼   ► So I wanted to get the thought from you.

00:02:50 ◼   ► What did you think about double tap?

00:02:51 ◼   ► And then I guess we could all talk about the fact of how weird

00:02:54 ◼   ► that second paragraph is.

00:02:56 ◼   ► So you enjoyed it?

00:02:58 ◼   ► You thought it felt natural?

00:03:00 ◼   ► Yeah, it really did a good job at picking up on that gesture.

00:03:06 ◼   ► Now, Assistive Touch has been in watchOS for a couple of years

00:03:09 ◼   ► now.

00:03:10 ◼   ► And this seems to build on that technology.

00:03:12 ◼   ► But with some new ways, they're like using blood flow

00:03:15 ◼   ► through your wrists and how it changes when

00:03:17 ◼   ► you tap your fingers together.

00:03:18 ◼   ► Who knew that was a thing?

00:03:20 ◼   ► But it is pretty sweet.

00:03:22 ◼   ► And think about it like the return key on your MacBook.

00:03:26 ◼   ► That's kind of how I'm thinking about it, where it will

00:03:28 ◼   ► do the default thing in the UI.

00:03:30 ◼   ► So if you're running a timer, it will stop the timer.

00:03:32 ◼   ► If you have a stopwatch, it will pause.

00:03:37 ◼   ► Like, it'll do whatever is the obvious default thing to do.

00:03:43 ◼   ► But the API thing really caught me off guard.

00:03:45 ◼   ► And it's like Apple's done last minute API changes

00:03:50 ◼   ► and additions based on hardware, right?

00:03:53 ◼   ► That's not unprecedented.

00:03:54 ◼   ► I think they could have done it.

00:03:56 ◼   ► Now, I don't know when it's coming.

00:03:57 ◼   ► Does it come in watchOS 10.1?

00:03:59 ◼   ► Does it come in watchOS 11 next year?

00:04:02 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:04:03 ◼   ► But the only way currently, from what

00:04:06 ◼   ► I was told, that this works with third party

00:04:08 ◼   ► software on the watch is if you are interacting

00:04:11 ◼   ► with their notifications.

00:04:12 ◼   ► But if you're in their app, there's

00:04:16 ◼   ► no affordance for this, at least currently.

00:04:19 ◼   ► And I don't love that.

00:04:20 ◼   ► I think that's a bit of a miss.

00:04:22 ◼   ► It's just weird.

00:04:23 ◼   ► Because I assume all that really you

00:04:28 ◼   ► would be looking for as the developer, right,

00:04:30 ◼   ► is that-- or from this is that you as the developer

00:04:34 ◼   ► would be able to classify what is the expected default

00:04:38 ◼   ► action to occur--

00:04:39 ◼   ► Exactly.

00:04:40 ◼   ► --when something's going on in the app.

00:04:43 ◼   ► It's a very strange thing to not have any kind of story around

00:04:48 ◼   ► and not even have details of like, oh, yeah,

00:04:50 ◼   ► this is going to come in 10.1 or whatever.

00:04:54 ◼   ► It's very odd.

00:04:56 ◼   ► So let's imagine I had DUE, right, like the app DUE.

00:05:01 ◼   ► If I open DUE and did the double tap feature,

00:05:04 ◼   ► just nothing happens.

00:05:06 ◼   ► If there was an alarm going off, nothing can happen.

00:05:10 ◼   ► That's my understanding.

00:05:11 ◼   ► Weird.

00:05:12 ◼   ► I don't know about this feature, though.

00:05:13 ◼   ► Like, I mean, this to me is like,

00:05:15 ◼   ► I don't know how much I'd use it.

00:05:17 ◼   ► The one thing I did think about, which is funny to me,

00:05:18 ◼   ► is like the Apple Watch is finally a one-handed device.

00:05:21 ◼   ► Because that was what we were all talking about, right,

00:05:23 ◼   ► before it came out.

00:05:24 ◼   ► And then it came out and we realized, oh, no, you can't--

00:05:28 ◼   ► you have to use two hands because one of them

00:05:30 ◼   ► is your wrist.

00:05:30 ◼   ► It depends how flexible you are, I guess.

00:05:32 ◼   ► But--

00:05:32 ◼   ► You know what?

00:05:33 ◼   ► That's a good point.

00:05:34 ◼   ► I should work-- you know, actually,

00:05:36 ◼   ► if I wore it like midway up my forearm but like facing inside,

00:05:40 ◼   ► I maybe could kind of get-- anyway.

00:05:43 ◼   ► So OK, that's interesting.

00:05:45 ◼   ► Anyway, so you said about the phones.

00:05:46 ◼   ► You said physically the 15 and 15 Plus are very similar

00:05:49 ◼   ► to the 14 before them.

00:05:51 ◼   ► The sides are still flat, but the rounding at the edges

00:05:53 ◼   ► makes it feel more comfortable in the hand.

00:05:57 ◼   ► It's an in-betweeny from the iPhone X, you know,

00:06:01 ◼   ► XR, 11, sort of that age of phones,

00:06:04 ◼   ► and what we've had the last few years with the flat edges.

00:06:07 ◼   ► The edges are still flat.

00:06:09 ◼   ► Like it would still--

00:06:11 ◼   ► I guess if you trusted it, would stand up along its edge.

00:06:14 ◼   ► But it's just right where it meets the front and back glass.

00:06:17 ◼   ► There's a little bit of a radius there.

00:06:20 ◼   ► It's subtle, but it's nice.

00:06:22 ◼   ► It does feel nicer in the hand.

00:06:24 ◼   ► And it does this weird optical trick

00:06:26 ◼   ► where it makes the phone look a little bit thinner than it is.

00:06:29 ◼   ► I remember them doing this like on the iPhone 3G

00:06:31 ◼   ► back in the day.

00:06:32 ◼   ► It's like, oh, the round-- you know,

00:06:34 ◼   ► it's narrower or thinner at the edges and how nice it is.

00:06:37 ◼   ► And of course, they did it with that stupid iMac in 2012 too.

00:06:40 ◼   ► But it is a nice tweak.

00:06:43 ◼   ► And it does help the phones feel just a little bit different

00:06:46 ◼   ► from their predecessor.

00:06:47 ◼   ► Now, most people are going to slap it in a case

00:06:49 ◼   ► and never notice.

00:06:50 ◼   ► But it is there waiting for you when you go caseless.

00:06:53 ◼   ► Is this a phone that you think lends itself

00:06:57 ◼   ► more to a caseless usage?

00:07:01 ◼   ► I don't know, because the iPhone 15 now

00:07:03 ◼   ► shares the matte back glass.

00:07:05 ◼   ► It's not the shiny glass like it used to be.

00:07:08 ◼   ► And some people think that's grippy,

00:07:09 ◼   ► or some people think that's more slippery.

00:07:12 ◼   ► I think the caseability is probably about where it's been.

00:07:16 ◼   ► These aren't radically different enclosures.

00:07:19 ◼   ► I love that word you just made up.

00:07:21 ◼   ► Caseability?

00:07:23 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:07:23 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:07:24 ◼   ► So what's the caseability like of the natural titanium finish?

00:07:28 ◼   ► Am I going to want to show that off?

00:07:30 ◼   ► You're going to want to show it off.

00:07:31 ◼   ► Is it pretty caseable?

00:07:32 ◼   ► Yeah, baby.

00:07:32 ◼   ► Give it to me.

00:07:33 ◼   ► It's so sick.

00:07:34 ◼   ► All right.

00:07:34 ◼   ► I'm happy.

00:07:35 ◼   ► Is it-- does it--

00:07:37 ◼   ► does it look like the DeLorean?

00:07:40 ◼   ► It does.

00:07:41 ◼   ► It diffuses light in an interesting way.

00:07:44 ◼   ► Now, the DeLorean--

00:07:45 ◼   ► I know.

00:07:45 ◼   ► The DeLorean was stainless steel.

00:07:47 ◼   ► I know.

00:07:48 ◼   ► But it was brushed.

00:07:49 ◼   ► It was brushed.

00:07:49 ◼   ► And this is brushed.

00:07:50 ◼   ► This looks very much like the old Apple Watch series 6 and 7

00:07:55 ◼   ► that came in titanium.

00:07:57 ◼   ► Very similar to that.

00:07:58 ◼   ► I think Apple's artwork over indexes the brushing.

00:08:02 ◼   ► And in real life, it's a bit more subtle than I

00:08:06 ◼   ► think what they showed off, at least in the video.

00:08:08 ◼   ► I haven't spent a lot of time with their product photography

00:08:10 ◼   ► yet.

00:08:10 ◼   ► But in the video, it's like, oh, gosh,

00:08:12 ◼   ► this is going to look like streaks up and down my phone.

00:08:15 ◼   ► And it's not like that in person.

00:08:17 ◼   ► So what you're saying is that it doesn't look like the brushed

00:08:21 ◼   ► metal UI?

00:08:23 ◼   ► Not really, no.

00:08:26 ◼   ► OK.

00:08:26 ◼   ► I mean, I made that joke on Macedon.

00:08:28 ◼   ► But it was a joke.

00:08:29 ◼   ► But I think natural is the color.

00:08:31 ◼   ► For me, it feels the most special.

00:08:34 ◼   ► It feels the newest out of the other ones in a weird way.

00:08:37 ◼   ► Because it's kind of like--

00:08:39 ◼   ► it's a little bit bronzy, but not really.

00:08:41 ◼   ► It's not-- it's very much like the Apple Watch Ultra.

00:08:46 ◼   ► It's just a nice finish.

00:08:47 ◼   ► And the natural is definitely the one

00:08:49 ◼   ► I'm personally excited about the most.

00:08:51 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:52 ◼   ► I think that's also the color I'm going to get.

00:08:54 ◼   ► If it's supposed to look different,

00:08:56 ◼   ► it got to look different.

00:08:57 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:58 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:59 ◼   ► I agree.

00:09:00 ◼   ► Before we get into the Ricky's, we

00:09:01 ◼   ► have a couple more items on the docket here.

00:09:03 ◼   ► I guess we turn our attention towards Federico Vittucci.

00:09:07 ◼   ► iOS 17.

00:09:09 ◼   ► Oh, I did a little--

00:09:11 ◼   ► Yo.

00:09:13 ◼   ► You're like, pull up, pull up.

00:09:14 ◼   ► You wish.

00:09:18 ◼   ► iOS 17.

00:09:20 ◼   ► Just to let you know, by the way,

00:09:21 ◼   ► I am drinking a Red Bull right now.

00:09:23 ◼   ► Because it was the only way I was going

00:09:24 ◼   ► to get through today's show.

00:09:25 ◼   ► And it gives me a very different kind of energy,

00:09:28 ◼   ► which is what we're all experiencing right now.

00:09:31 ◼   ► But that's just where I am.

00:09:33 ◼   ► So iOS 17, iPad OS 17, and watch OS 10,

00:09:38 ◼   ► they all come out on Monday, September 18.

00:09:41 ◼   ► How's the TV OS review, Mike?

00:09:44 ◼   ► The what?

00:09:45 ◼   ► As you can see, there is no release date for TV OS.

00:09:49 ◼   ► It's in here too.

00:09:49 ◼   ► It's on the 18th.

00:09:51 ◼   ► No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:09:52 ◼   ► No one's got that release date yet.

00:09:54 ◼   ► I wrote et cetera.

00:09:55 ◼   ► That covers the watch and the TV.

00:09:57 ◼   ► There is no release date.

00:10:00 ◼   ► Look, trust me, on the TV OS there's no set release

00:10:03 ◼   ► date for TV OS, which means that there's no review yet.

00:10:10 ◼   ► Thank you for reminding me about that.

00:10:12 ◼   ► That's later, though.

00:10:13 ◼   ► That's going to come later.

00:10:14 ◼   ► I've got to really take my time with it.

00:10:16 ◼   ► And Mac OS Sonoma, September 26, which

00:10:19 ◼   ► I'm actually excited about.

00:10:20 ◼   ► I'm happy that Mac OS is coming out in September and not

00:10:22 ◼   ► October.

00:10:24 ◼   ► Federico, how are you feeling?

00:10:26 ◼   ► I am feeling pretty good.

00:10:28 ◼   ► I think unless something horrible happens,

00:10:33 ◼   ► I am on track to publish my review, iOS and iPad OS,

00:10:37 ◼   ► on Monday.

00:10:38 ◼   ► So the review is all done.

00:10:41 ◼   ► I've done a first pass of editing.

00:10:44 ◼   ► I just need to do media screenshots and videos.

00:10:48 ◼   ► I got some extra bonuses planned.

00:10:51 ◼   ► And everything is lining up for publishing the review

00:10:54 ◼   ► on launch day just before iOS and iPad OS 17 come out.

00:10:59 ◼   ► So the people will have a few hours

00:11:01 ◼   ► to read the chapters they want to read, or maybe

00:11:04 ◼   ► the whole thing if you're a fast reader.

00:11:06 ◼   ► Everything's looking good for Monday so far.

00:11:10 ◼   ► Yeah, and next week I'm sure we will

00:11:12 ◼   ► be diving into your review on the show.

00:11:15 ◼   ► And Mike will be auditing my Mac setup

00:11:21 ◼   ► because we hit a milestone in our St. Jude campaign.

00:11:23 ◼   ► That's next week, is it?

00:11:24 ◼   ► It is next week.

00:11:26 ◼   ► Speaking of St. Jude, September is Childhood Cancer Awareness

00:11:29 ◼   ► Month, and for the fifth year in a row, those of us at Relay FM

00:11:33 ◼   ► are banding together to raise money for St. Jude Children's

00:11:36 ◼   ► Research Hospital.

00:11:38 ◼   ► As I say these words, we have raised $271,000

00:11:42 ◼   ► in the month of September so far,

00:11:44 ◼   ► which is absolutely incredible.

00:11:46 ◼   ► We're getting ready to surpass $2.5 million

00:11:49 ◼   ► over the last five years.

00:11:52 ◼   ► And we do this because St. Jude will not

00:11:53 ◼   ► stop their lifesaving work until no child dies from cancer.

00:11:58 ◼   ► With your support, we'll be one step closer to that day,

00:12:01 ◼   ► one cure closer, one child closer.

00:12:04 ◼   ► Mike, do you want to tell us a little bit about the Global

00:12:07 ◼   ► Childhood Cancer Prevalence WHO partnership?

00:12:11 ◼   ► Whoa, OK.

00:12:12 ◼   ► Yeah, definitely.

00:12:13 ◼   ► Apple named it.

00:12:15 ◼   ► Oh, great.

00:12:15 ◼   ► In 2021, St. Jude and the WHO launched the global platform

00:12:19 ◼   ► for access to child cancer medicines.

00:12:22 ◼   ► It aims to provide chemotherapy medicines in the next few years

00:12:25 ◼   ► to as many as 120,000 children around the world with cancer.

00:12:29 ◼   ► St. Jude, while based in Memphis, Tennessee,

00:12:32 ◼   ► which is where I'm going to be, which is where both me

00:12:33 ◼   ► and Steven are going to be-- neither of us

00:12:35 ◼   ► are there right now, but we'll both be there later on--

00:12:38 ◼   ► even though it's based in Memphis, Tennessee, the work

00:12:40 ◼   ► of St. Jude expands around the world.

00:12:42 ◼   ► So I mentioned the global platform for access

00:12:46 ◼   ► to childhood cancer medicines.

00:12:47 ◼   ► But also in 2018, St. Jude-- and this became part of that--

00:12:51 ◼   ► St. Jude was the first and only World Health Organization

00:12:55 ◼   ► collaborating center for childhood cancer

00:12:57 ◼   ► with the goal of this to raise the survival

00:13:00 ◼   ► rate of six common childhood cancers to 60% by 2030.

00:13:04 ◼   ► St. Jude is in the pilot phase of their platform initiative.

00:13:08 ◼   ► And in April this year, they met with representatives

00:13:11 ◼   ► from the program's first few countries

00:13:13 ◼   ► to figure out all of the logistical details

00:13:15 ◼   ► and the processes for how they will get these chemotherapy

00:13:18 ◼   ► and cancer medicines to the hospitals that need them,

00:13:22 ◼   ► which is incredible.

00:13:24 ◼   ► We talk about the kids whose lives

00:13:26 ◼   ► are saved at St. Jude in Memphis, the kids that

00:13:29 ◼   ► are brought from all over the US, all over the world,

00:13:32 ◼   ► there for treatment.

00:13:33 ◼   ► But now it's also going the other way as well,

00:13:36 ◼   ► where St. Jude is not only sending their treatment,

00:13:38 ◼   ► but also the lifesaving drugs that are needed out

00:13:42 ◼   ► to hospitals all over the world to try and help

00:13:45 ◼   ► more and more kids.

00:13:46 ◼   ► So no matter where you are in the world,

00:13:50 ◼   ► St. Jude's work can have an impact.

00:13:52 ◼   ► - Yeah, it was such a remarkable thing

00:13:55 ◼   ► that it happened to be in my backyard when we needed it,

00:13:59 ◼   ► but that's really what it was.

00:14:01 ◼   ► It happened to be here because their reach

00:14:03 ◼   ► is so international.

00:14:04 ◼   ► And I remember for the almost two years

00:14:08 ◼   ► that our son was on active treatment,

00:14:10 ◼   ► having chemotherapy at St. Jude,

00:14:13 ◼   ► we got to meet families from all over the world

00:14:15 ◼   ► who had traveled to Memphis for their treatment.

00:14:19 ◼   ► But at the same time, even then, I knew

00:14:22 ◼   ► that there were so many more around the world

00:14:24 ◼   ► that I would never get to meet, yet they were benefiting

00:14:26 ◼   ► from the same things we were.

00:14:28 ◼   ► And it makes the world feel a little bit closer.

00:14:31 ◼   ► And that's something that I really appreciated

00:14:33 ◼   ► about that sort of active treatment time,

00:14:36 ◼   ► our exposure to all these different types

00:14:38 ◼   ► and people from all around the world.

00:14:41 ◼   ► And we're gonna get to celebrate that

00:14:43 ◼   ► with the fifth annual podcast-a-thon live

00:14:46 ◼   ► on Friday, September 22nd,

00:14:49 ◼   ► from 12 noon to midnight Eastern time.

00:14:52 ◼   ► That is 12 hours. - 12 hours, baby!

00:14:55 ◼   ► Let's go.

00:14:56 ◼   ► - Keep drinking those Red Bulls, bud.

00:14:58 ◼   ► - Oh, yes, there's gonna be a crate under the desk,

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00:16:05 ◼   ► - Also, don't forget that today's Ricky's

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00:16:25 ◼   ► which then will give us the starting place

00:16:27 ◼   ► for the shenanigans of the podcast.

00:16:29 ◼   ► Before we get into the Ricky's,

00:16:31 ◼   ► should we go through our shopping list real quick,

00:16:34 ◼   ► the things that we are interested in buying?

00:16:37 ◼   ► Steven, why don't you kick us off?

00:16:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, so I am not in the market for a watch.

00:16:41 ◼   ► I'm holding onto the original Apple Watch Ultra.

00:16:45 ◼   ► - Why ever not?

00:16:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, 'cause it's the same.

00:16:49 ◼   ► I did pick up the Orange Ocean Band though,

00:16:51 ◼   ► 'cause that thing looks awesome,

00:16:52 ◼   ► and I like the Ocean Band a lot.

00:16:54 ◼   ► In terms of the phone, 15 Pro Max,

00:16:57 ◼   ► natural titanium, 512 gigs.

00:17:00 ◼   ► - I am also not getting the new Ultra.

00:17:04 ◼   ► I am not getting the USB-C AirPods

00:17:07 ◼   ► until it becomes more clear

00:17:09 ◼   ► exactly which benefits they're gonna be.

00:17:11 ◼   ► I'm gonna get a Pro Max, natural titanium, 512 gigs.

00:17:17 ◼   ► - All right, I think we're all gonna get the same phone.

00:17:20 ◼   ► - We're all getting the same phone.

00:17:23 ◼   ► - Natural gang, we're the natural boys.

00:17:26 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:17:28 ◼   ► Pro Max, natural titanium, 512 gigabytes.

00:17:33 ◼   ► I am gonna be getting the Apple Watch Ultra too,

00:17:36 ◼   ► and I want the Orange Beige Trail Loop.

00:17:38 ◼   ► - Okay, but what a finish.

00:17:40 ◼   ► - I know.

00:17:40 ◼   ► I like that Trail Loop, the orange one with the beige,

00:17:45 ◼   ► I think it's pretty cool.

00:17:46 ◼   ► And I'm also gonna get as a second band,

00:17:49 ◼   ► probably the Orange Ocean Band.

00:17:51 ◼   ► - Awesome, that sounds good.

00:17:52 ◼   ► So we'll be very similar, all three of us,

00:17:54 ◼   ► for the next year.

00:17:55 ◼   ► That's fun.

00:17:56 ◼   ► - That's nice, that's my favorite.

00:17:57 ◼   ► I like it when we're the same.

00:17:58 ◼   ► - But give me a few tips here, because it's been a while.

00:18:00 ◼   ► I think this year I'm gonna try

00:18:02 ◼   ► and do what I used to do years ago,

00:18:03 ◼   ► I think I'm gonna try and pre-order for the actual

00:18:07 ◼   ► release date.

00:18:08 ◼   ► What's the socially accepted way to do it?

00:18:11 ◼   ► You gotta pre-save the product in the Apple Store app?

00:18:15 ◼   ► Like, what's the consensus from the people

00:18:18 ◼   ► that do this every year?

00:18:19 ◼   ► - I think the pre-saving is a thing to do now.

00:18:22 ◼   ► Like, it actually does help,

00:18:24 ◼   ► because then when you go to buy,

00:18:27 ◼   ► you just press the button and everything's pre-filled,

00:18:29 ◼   ► you don't have to select all the stuff anymore.

00:18:32 ◼   ► So that's the way to go, is doing the pre-saving in the app.

00:18:36 ◼   ► - Okay, I think I just did.

00:18:38 ◼   ► From the website, but I guess it should also show up.

00:18:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, it'll sync, if you're signed into the same account.

00:18:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, and obviously that's the thing

00:18:44 ◼   ► you should also do, right?

00:18:45 ◼   ► Have it on the website and on the phone,

00:18:47 ◼   ► 'cause who knows which one's gonna show up first.

00:18:50 ◼   ► - Right, right, okay.

00:18:52 ◼   ► - But I mean, I don't know,

00:18:52 ◼   ► unless we see something different,

00:18:54 ◼   ► it seems like that rumor of there being

00:18:55 ◼   ► some kind of constraint on the Pro Max

00:18:57 ◼   ► doesn't necessarily seem to have borne out

00:19:00 ◼   ► the fact that they're all coming out the same day,

00:19:01 ◼   ► but I guess we'll see what happens

00:19:03 ◼   ► whenever one tries to buy.

00:19:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think it's gonna be a big year for the big phone,

00:19:08 ◼   ► so we'll definitely be ready on time to order.

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00:21:44 ◼   ► It is now time, gentlemen, for the Bill of Rickies.

00:21:48 ◼   ► Let us start with the preamble.

00:21:51 ◼   ► The Rickies is a game connected hosts play

00:21:53 ◼   ► before Apple keynotes and the beginning of a new year,

00:21:56 ◼   ► trying to predict future events.

00:21:59 ◼   ► It is made up of three rounds.

00:22:01 ◼   ► Each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick.

00:22:05 ◼   ► There are two types of Rickies, annual Rickies,

00:22:09 ◼   ► which we're not playing today,

00:22:10 ◼   ► and keynote Rickies, which we are.

00:22:13 ◼   ► The winner of the annual Rickies

00:22:14 ◼   ► is named the annual chairman.

00:22:15 ◼   ► This position is awarded every January.

00:22:18 ◼   ► The keynote Rickies winner is named the keynote chairman,

00:22:21 ◼   ► and this position is held until the next keynote.

00:22:24 ◼   ► After the Rickies, the hosts then play a game

00:22:27 ◼   ► called the Flexies.

00:22:28 ◼   ► These two games are separate, but related.

00:22:31 ◼   ► Please stand for the reading of the rules.

00:22:34 ◼   ► Correct regular picks are awarded one point.

00:22:48 ◼   ► The language used for regular picks must be finalized

00:22:51 ◼   ► and agreed upon during recording,

00:22:53 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

00:22:56 ◼   ► Correct risky picks are worth two points,

00:22:58 ◼   ► but wrong ones will cause a point to be deducted

00:23:00 ◼   ► from that host's total.

00:23:02 ◼   ► Picks must have been approved as risky

00:23:05 ◼   ► by the two other hosts before the start of the game.

00:23:08 ◼   ► A pick cannot be named risky

00:23:10 ◼   ► if it has been previously rumored

00:23:12 ◼   ► by the publications of record,

00:23:14 ◼   ► nine to five Mac or MacRumors.

00:23:17 ◼   ► Picks made for keynote Rickies cannot be reused

00:23:22 ◼   ► by the hosts who made them for the next keynote.

00:23:25 ◼   ► The annual Rickies have their own subset of rules.

00:23:28 ◼   ► Once a host chooses something as an annual pick,

00:23:30 ◼   ► it cannot be reused in that calendar year.

00:23:33 ◼   ► Additionally, picks may not be used

00:23:35 ◼   ► in back to back annual Rickies by the same host.

00:23:39 ◼   ► All hosts are allowed to reuse picks

00:23:41 ◼   ► previously made by others.

00:23:43 ◼   ► Scoring is completed during recording

00:23:45 ◼   ► and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.

00:23:49 ◼   ► In the event of a tie, dice by Peacock

00:23:51 ◼   ► must be used in relay FM mode to pick a winner.

00:23:55 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins

00:23:59 ◼   ► in relation to the Rickies.

00:24:00 ◼   ► Coin flips by Jason on other podcasts are allowed,

00:24:05 ◼   ► but are frowned upon and subject to public shaming.

00:24:08 ◼   ► For keynote Rickies, the scoring window starts

00:24:12 ◼   ► when the event begins and closes when the picks are scored.

00:24:16 ◼   ► Any information used in scoring

00:24:18 ◼   ► must be publicly verifiable at the time of recording.

00:24:21 ◼   ► The order of picks is set by previous performance.

00:24:25 ◼   ► The winner of the previous associated game goes first.

00:24:28 ◼   ► The previous loser goes last.

00:24:31 ◼   ► Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.

00:24:34 ◼   ► As a reminder, Mike is the current annual chairman

00:24:37 ◼   ► and I am the current keynote chairman.

00:24:40 ◼   ► Past results can be seen at Rickies.co and Rickies.net.

00:24:44 ◼   ► These sites also have pages

00:24:45 ◼   ► about managing your own scorekeeping at home.

00:24:49 ◼   ► You may be seated.

00:24:49 ◼   ► As normal, we have links to follow along on the web,

00:24:55 ◼   ► Rickies.co and Rickies.net,

00:24:58 ◼   ► but we're gonna move right into round one

00:25:01 ◼   ► and I got to go first this time.

00:25:03 ◼   ► And I said, at least one new iPhone ships with USB-C.

00:25:07 ◼   ► - Ding.

00:25:11 ◼   ► - Oh, there's no bell.

00:25:13 ◼   ► You didn't bring a bell or a microphone stand.

00:25:15 ◼   ► - I forgot to pack a bell

00:25:17 ◼   ► and I forgot to pack a microphone stand.

00:25:18 ◼   ► It's been a minute since I've traveled

00:25:20 ◼   ► with audio equipment, okay?

00:25:22 ◼   ► Give me a break.

00:25:22 ◼   ► - It's only been like three months.

00:25:24 ◼   ► - No, I didn't take anything to WBC

00:25:27 ◼   ► as I recorded in Apple's fancy studio.

00:25:29 ◼   ► So USB-C everywhere.

00:25:31 ◼   ► The iPhone 15 is limited to USB 2.0 speeds with--

00:25:35 ◼   ► - Travesty. - Travesty.

00:25:37 ◼   ► - I'm so mad about this, boys.

00:25:38 ◼   ► I've had the change of heart.

00:25:40 ◼   ► I'm furious. - Really, you are?

00:25:41 ◼   ► - I'm furious.

00:25:42 ◼   ► No.

00:25:43 ◼   ► - What I am-- - No, it's stupid.

00:25:45 ◼   ► - What I'm a little mad about is that the 3.0 cable

00:25:48 ◼   ► for the Pro is optional.

00:25:49 ◼   ► It's not in the box. - Why?

00:25:51 ◼   ► Why are you mad about that?

00:25:52 ◼   ► - Because these are $1500 phones.

00:25:54 ◼   ► - Steven, do you not already have a cable that could do this?

00:25:57 ◼   ► - I don't know because USB-C is very confusing.

00:26:00 ◼   ► - No, you definitely have a cable that could do this.

00:26:00 ◼   ► - No, come on, no, no, no, no.

00:26:02 ◼   ► That's not confusing for you. - You use a Thunderbolt cable.

00:26:04 ◼   ► - That argument that USB-C is confusing,

00:26:06 ◼   ► like I find it so funny,

00:26:07 ◼   ► but like, oh, USB-C is so confusing.

00:26:10 ◼   ► Like we are literally nerds and this is our job.

00:26:14 ◼   ► Like we have complicated setup and every--

00:26:18 ◼   ► No, you're not.

00:26:19 ◼   ► No, you're not.

00:26:20 ◼   ► You're not a man of the people. - No, 'cause you,

00:26:21 ◼   ► I know you know.

00:26:22 ◼   ► You would just use a Thunderbolt cable

00:26:23 ◼   ► and it's gonna do the job.

00:26:24 ◼   ► - I mean, I would.

00:26:25 ◼   ► - Exactly.

00:26:26 ◼   ► And this is my point.

00:26:27 ◼   ► Look, if you're like, oh,

00:26:28 ◼   ► I can't believe it's not in the box.

00:26:29 ◼   ► Everyone that needs the USB 3.0 speeds

00:26:33 ◼   ► for the iPhone that they're about to buy

00:26:35 ◼   ► already has the cable that they need for this.

00:26:38 ◼   ► 100% they already have it.

00:26:40 ◼   ► Anyway. - So anyway,

00:26:41 ◼   ► you get the point.

00:26:41 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:26:42 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:26:43 ◼   ► - Anyway.

00:26:44 ◼   ► - Related to this, AirPods Pro 2 now,

00:26:49 ◼   ► or will on the 22nd come with a USB-C charging case.

00:26:53 ◼   ► You cannot buy this case separately.

00:26:56 ◼   ► And even though this product has the same name,

00:26:59 ◼   ► it has support for things the AirPods Pro 2

00:27:01 ◼   ► with lightning don't.

00:27:03 ◼   ► It's like a silent revision.

00:27:04 ◼   ► And I find it kind of confusing that--

00:27:07 ◼   ► - Now this is annoying.

00:27:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, I just wanna buy the case.

00:27:09 ◼   ► - I am on board with this.

00:27:11 ◼   ► Like this is really annoying.

00:27:12 ◼   ► 'Cause I don't want to do this.

00:27:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, why?

00:27:16 ◼   ► Like I don't wanna buy new AirPods Pro.

00:27:19 ◼   ► - No, I'm not going to, like no way.

00:27:21 ◼   ► - And also, the problem is it seems like only

00:27:26 ◼   ► the USB-C version will have the last less

00:27:28 ◼   ► when you're using the Vision Pro.

00:27:30 ◼   ► So I will have to buy new AirPods Pro,

00:27:34 ◼   ► even though I don't want to.

00:27:36 ◼   ► - Has anyone fully confirmed this with Apple?

00:27:41 ◼   ► That like the old one won't do the lossless?

00:27:44 ◼   ► - No, I don't think so.

00:27:46 ◼   ► - Right, 'cause like I know it says it will, but--

00:27:49 ◼   ► - Yeah, but sometimes these things

00:27:50 ◼   ► on the Apple website can, you know.

00:27:53 ◼   ► - Right, but it's like, I don't know, like, I don't know.

00:27:56 ◼   ► I would like someone to confirm it completely.

00:28:00 ◼   ► - All right, Federico, you're up.

00:28:01 ◼   ► - I said, the Pro iPhones will use titanium

00:28:05 ◼   ► instead of stainless steel for the chassis.

00:28:08 ◼   ► (both humming)

00:28:10 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean, they made a big deal out of the fact

00:28:15 ◼   ► that they're using titanium.

00:28:16 ◼   ► The whole animation before the event

00:28:20 ◼   ► with all the little particles of titanium coming together.

00:28:23 ◼   ► - Is that how they make it, do you think?

00:28:25 ◼   ► Like, is that how titanium works?

00:28:27 ◼   ► Like it's all just little stones?

00:28:28 ◼   ► - I think that's how titanium looks, yeah.

00:28:30 ◼   ► - Wow, and then you just like squish them together?

00:28:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's like little magic dust

00:28:35 ◼   ► that eventually comes together as titanium, yeah.

00:28:39 ◼   ► - Didn't know that, that's good.

00:28:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how it works.

00:28:42 ◼   ► They made a big deal out of their custom process.

00:28:45 ◼   ► Wasn't this one of your picks somewhere, Mike?

00:28:50 ◼   ► That you kept saying that Apple would say,

00:28:53 ◼   ► oh, we invented a new technique for--

00:28:56 ◼   ► - It's actually a Flexi, we'll get to it later on.

00:28:59 ◼   ► - It is a Flexi, yeah, they did that.

00:29:01 ◼   ► - I remember, I was actually pretty happy with this

00:29:03 ◼   ► 'cause like it was the idea that I was convinced

00:29:05 ◼   ► they were gonna talk about their metallurgy

00:29:06 ◼   ► and then a metallurgist came out and I was like,

00:29:09 ◼   ► here we go.

00:29:10 ◼   ► And that woman was like absolute nerding out

00:29:15 ◼   ► and like was so, I could tell,

00:29:17 ◼   ► was just like so happy about it.

00:29:18 ◼   ► Like, I'm gonna tell you about this thing we made

00:29:22 ◼   ► and we're taking these two,

00:29:23 ◼   ► and like it was like a bunch of words

00:29:25 ◼   ► and we're putting these metals together

00:29:26 ◼   ► and no one else can do it.

00:29:27 ◼   ► It's like, it was really cool.

00:29:29 ◼   ► - It was cool.

00:29:30 ◼   ► There's still aluminum involved in the process.

00:29:35 ◼   ► My end, Steven, you have more details than I do.

00:29:39 ◼   ► It's aluminum inside, like in the internal chassis,

00:29:42 ◼   ► but titanium outside?

00:29:43 ◼   ► - That's right, and they did that

00:29:45 ◼   ► to further bring down the weight

00:29:47 ◼   ► 'cause the previous Pro phones used a steel alloy,

00:29:50 ◼   ► I think all the way through.

00:29:52 ◼   ► So they made that change, so it definitely weighs less.

00:29:56 ◼   ► But they also made a point in this part of the keynote

00:29:59 ◼   ► to say how the back glass is easily swapped now.

00:30:03 ◼   ► On previous phones, if you broke the back glass,

00:30:06 ◼   ► you were in a world of hurt

00:30:07 ◼   ► because they had to replace the whole phone

00:30:09 ◼   ► or like the whole chassis,

00:30:10 ◼   ► and now it seems like it just comes off.

00:30:13 ◼   ► We'll wait for the teardowns here in the next week or so.

00:30:16 ◼   ► But it seems like when they were in there redesigning this,

00:30:20 ◼   ► that they had multiple goals.

00:30:21 ◼   ► And I can tell you the weight is definitely noticeable.

00:30:24 ◼   ► We'll talk about specifics a little bit later, of course,

00:30:27 ◼   ► but it's a nice change, but it still feels really premium.

00:30:32 ◼   ► I think it feels more premium than the steel did, honestly.

00:30:36 ◼   ► - Timery Joe had a question for Steven

00:30:39 ◼   ► about the natural titanium iPhone 15 Pro.

00:30:43 ◼   ► Timery Joe says, "The marketing images on the Apple website

00:30:46 ◼   ► showed the natural titanium having a kind of goldish tint,

00:30:49 ◼   ► at least compared to the white titanium.

00:30:52 ◼   ► Having seen the phones in person,

00:30:54 ◼   ► how gold is the natural titanium?

00:30:56 ◼   ► Is it more silvery in person

00:30:57 ◼   ► or more like something like starlight?"

00:30:59 ◼   ► - It's more neutral in person

00:31:01 ◼   ► than I think some of the photos look.

00:31:03 ◼   ► It is warmer than the white and silver phone,

00:31:08 ◼   ► but it's in line with the Apple Watch Ultra.

00:31:11 ◼   ► It's very much of that vein.

00:31:12 ◼   ► So slightly warm, but it's really nice looking.

00:31:16 ◼   ► Again, really premium looking,

00:31:18 ◼   ► and it feels the most special.

00:31:20 ◼   ► The white and the black,

00:31:21 ◼   ► we've had similar color ways to that.

00:31:23 ◼   ► The dark blue is pretty close, like the midnight,

00:31:26 ◼   ► like on your MacBook Air mic.

00:31:28 ◼   ► But this looks the most new out of all of them.

00:31:33 ◼   ► - The naming is very funny to me.

00:31:34 ◼   ► It's like white titanium, black titanium,

00:31:36 ◼   ► blue titanium, natural titanium.

00:31:38 ◼   ► It's like, what is going on?

00:31:41 ◼   ► Why?

00:31:41 ◼   ► - Well, yeah, no starlight, no midnight, no Titan gray,

00:31:46 ◼   ► which was rumored to be the name color.

00:31:48 ◼   ► No space gray. - No space gray, nothing.

00:31:50 ◼   ► And right, they have a blue color called midnight.

00:31:52 ◼   ► They didn't call it that.

00:31:53 ◼   ► And they put the word titanium into all the color names.

00:31:57 ◼   ► Yeah, they're really proud of it.

00:31:58 ◼   ► They can't help themselves.

00:31:59 ◼   ► They did that 20 years ago with the titanium PowerBook G4.

00:32:02 ◼   ► They called it the titanium PowerBook G4

00:32:04 ◼   ► every time someone said it.

00:32:06 ◼   ► And here we are again.

00:32:07 ◼   ► They're very proud of it.

00:32:09 ◼   ► But the colors are all pretty nice,

00:32:13 ◼   ► and the finishes look really nice.

00:32:15 ◼   ► And I think this is a great new chapter

00:32:17 ◼   ► for pro iPhone construction.

00:32:20 ◼   ► - And they're coloring them with PVD, right?

00:32:22 ◼   ► Is PVD colored?

00:32:23 ◼   ► - Yeah, they even said, yes, you can anodize titanium,

00:32:26 ◼   ► like, and winked at the camera

00:32:27 ◼   ► to all the upgrade listeners, I felt like,

00:32:29 ◼   ► 'cause you guys went round and round on that.

00:32:31 ◼   ► - But please stop talking about it.

00:32:32 ◼   ► We're doing PVD instead. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:34 ◼   ► So it is PVD coded.

00:32:36 ◼   ► I think they said it takes like 14 hours per phone

00:32:38 ◼   ► to do the coding.

00:32:40 ◼   ► - Seems inefficient.

00:32:41 ◼   ► - Who knows how that's gonna go, but yeah,

00:32:46 ◼   ► they all look nice, but the natural feels

00:32:49 ◼   ► like the one to get this year.

00:32:51 ◼   ► - Okay, my round one pick was at least one iPhone

00:32:54 ◼   ► gets a camera with a more than 3x zoom.

00:32:57 ◼   ► - Hmm. - Hmm.

00:32:57 ◼   ► - Hmm. - Hmm.

00:32:58 ◼   ► - Ding. - Yeah, we got a 5x

00:33:02 ◼   ► optical zoom on the Pro Max, thanks to the Tetra Prism.

00:33:06 ◼   ► We'll talk about that name a little bit later on.

00:33:09 ◼   ► And then they also spoke about,

00:33:11 ◼   ► like Apple were kind of telling the Pro Max

00:33:14 ◼   ► as having seven lenses in your pocket.

00:33:16 ◼   ► And this comes from the ultra wide,

00:33:19 ◼   ► which is a 30 millimeter focal distance.

00:33:21 ◼   ► Then you've got 24, 28, 35, and then 120.

00:33:26 ◼   ► This is from the telephone.

00:33:28 ◼   ► This is very confusing, Steven, this millimeter thing,

00:33:31 ◼   ► the focal, can you help me with this?

00:33:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, so what they're doing is they're using

00:33:35 ◼   ► the 48 megapixel sensor on the main camera

00:33:39 ◼   ► in some different ways than they did last time around.

00:33:43 ◼   ► So they had the 2x last year, which we talked about.

00:33:46 ◼   ► You hit the 2x button and basically it's cropping

00:33:48 ◼   ► into the sensor area and pulling your image

00:33:51 ◼   ► from just a select part of the sensor.

00:33:53 ◼   ► And basically they're doing that even more now.

00:33:56 ◼   ► So the ultra wide is always 13 millimeter,

00:33:58 ◼   ► which is what it was, really wide,

00:34:00 ◼   ► but not quite fish-eyed look.

00:34:04 ◼   ► And then the main you can set to 24, 28, or 35,

00:34:08 ◼   ► and you can set your default.

00:34:10 ◼   ► So if you really like one of those looks,

00:34:14 ◼   ► you can use it all the time.

00:34:15 ◼   ► And then the telephoto jumps all the way to 120.

00:34:18 ◼   ► - But is it not just digitally cropping,

00:34:21 ◼   ► the images?

00:34:22 ◼   ► - It is, so it's shooting on the whole 48 megapixel sensor

00:34:26 ◼   ► and then pulling data from it.

00:34:29 ◼   ► So it is cropped, but not sort of in the traditional sense

00:34:34 ◼   ► that you might do in Photoshop where you're losing data,

00:34:37 ◼   ► you're just capturing less data.

00:34:40 ◼   ► That was okay on the 14 Pro.

00:34:43 ◼   ► It wasn't the best mode.

00:34:44 ◼   ► I think 1x looked better.

00:34:46 ◼   ► I think these will all look pretty good.

00:34:49 ◼   ► I think this updated, it's an updated sensor, not all new.

00:34:54 ◼   ► I think they're doing a lot of work there.

00:34:56 ◼   ► I mean, they're also doing the thing sort of,

00:34:59 ◼   ► we're gonna talk a little bit in round two,

00:35:01 ◼   ► but the 48 megapixel camera now can,

00:35:04 ◼   ► you can get 24 megapixel images out of it

00:35:07 ◼   ► before you got 12, because they bend four pixels

00:35:11 ◼   ► on the sensor to one, or you could shoot raw

00:35:14 ◼   ► and get the full 48, which those images looked incredible

00:35:18 ◼   ► in the right settings, but were kind of difficult

00:35:20 ◼   ► to deal with, and now they're sort of met in the middle,

00:35:23 ◼   ► and yeah, you'll get a 24 megapixel out of it,

00:35:25 ◼   ► and you get some of the best of both.

00:35:28 ◼   ► So they're using all of that data

00:35:31 ◼   ► to basically set these zoom levels basically in hardware.

00:35:36 ◼   ► So the seven lenses in your pocket,

00:35:38 ◼   ► like yeah, that's a little,

00:35:39 ◼   ► I mean, that's a little product marketing, right?

00:35:41 ◼   ► Like that's not really what it is,

00:35:43 ◼   ► but you seem to have much better flexibility

00:35:46 ◼   ► with this new camera system, especially the main camera.

00:35:51 ◼   ► - Don't know how I feel about 1x, 2x, 5x, right?

00:35:54 ◼   ► Like they're the actual options.

00:35:56 ◼   ► That's a big jump, two to five.

00:35:57 ◼   ► - It is.

00:35:59 ◼   ► - And I'm, I mean, I'm sure you tried that out.

00:36:02 ◼   ► How, like, what does the 5x feel like?

00:36:07 ◼   ► - It's weird.

00:36:08 ◼   ► I mean, it looks great, but I had one of these in my hand,

00:36:11 ◼   ► and I pointed it to the ceiling in the Steve Jobs Theater

00:36:14 ◼   ► and hit the 5x, and it sort of broke my brain a little bit

00:36:19 ◼   ► because we've, I mean, you've been able to zoom to 5x before,

00:36:23 ◼   ► but it's digital zoom, and it looks blocky and noisy and bad,

00:36:28 ◼   ► but this looked fantastic,

00:36:29 ◼   ► and I handed the phone back to the person

00:36:31 ◼   ► who worked at Apple, you know, that had the demo units,

00:36:35 ◼   ► and they were like, oh yeah,

00:36:36 ◼   ► we're deleting a lot of pictures people took of the ceiling,

00:36:38 ◼   ► 'cause like, that's just instinct.

00:36:39 ◼   ► It's like, what's far away?

00:36:40 ◼   ► Uh, look up, you know?

00:36:42 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:36:44 ◼   ► - Well, 'cause it's also better than taking a picture

00:36:46 ◼   ► of the person standing on the other side of the room, right,

00:36:48 ◼   ► that you don't know.

00:36:49 ◼   ► - At 5x, yeah, it's like the whole screen

00:36:51 ◼   ► is just Eli Patel glaring at you.

00:36:53 ◼   ► - Take it to your soul.

00:36:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, I would take that photo and keep it,

00:36:56 ◼   ► but it's pretty cool, you know?

00:36:59 ◼   ► I wanna see, they talked a big game

00:37:00 ◼   ► about the low light stuff

00:37:02 ◼   ► and some other things they're doing,

00:37:03 ◼   ► but in the beautifully lit Steve Jobs Theater,

00:37:07 ◼   ► 5x looked very good, and I do wanna talk a little bit

00:37:10 ◼   ► about that it's not a straight periscope, right?

00:37:12 ◼   ► It's not just a tube of light.

00:37:13 ◼   ► They're calling it the Tetra Prism.

00:37:15 ◼   ► It's not branded that, they just said,

00:37:17 ◼   ► that's just how this works,

00:37:18 ◼   ► and the light takes four turns from the lens to the sensor,

00:37:23 ◼   ► and that's how they're getting that additional length.

00:37:25 ◼   ► So very, I'm sure, expensive to engineer that.

00:37:29 ◼   ► So at the end of round one, we're tied.

00:37:31 ◼   ► All tied up, one point each.

00:37:34 ◼   ► Round two, my first pick.

00:37:36 ◼   ► The two Pro phones have different camera features.

00:37:40 ◼   ► Yes, the Pro Max got the, all the fancy zooming stuff,

00:37:45 ◼   ► the 5x 120 millimeter telephoto,

00:37:48 ◼   ► and the other Pro phone did not,

00:37:51 ◼   ► but both do the cool main sensor 48 to 24 megapixel trick.

00:37:55 ◼   ► - This is the thing I'm most excited about.

00:37:57 ◼   ► In fact, even the iPhone 15 does this too.

00:37:59 ◼   ► The new 24 megapixel ultra high resolution photos.

00:38:05 ◼   ► This is what I wanted last year, and I've got it now.

00:38:10 ◼   ► I've like, great, you have a 48 megapixel sensor.

00:38:13 ◼   ► What does it give me?

00:38:15 ◼   ► Well, now they're using the data from the sensor.

00:38:18 ◼   ► They're putting it into the photonic engine

00:38:20 ◼   ► and spitting out what should be a much higher resolution

00:38:24 ◼   ► and higher quality image at the end of it.

00:38:27 ◼   ► I'm very excited about this.

00:38:28 ◼   ► I'm also excited about the 48 megapixel Heath file,

00:38:32 ◼   ► which is, that's in the release candidate of iOS.

00:38:37 ◼   ► I have it on my 14 Pro Max now.

00:38:39 ◼   ► - Oh, nice.

00:38:40 ◼   ► - As an option.

00:38:41 ◼   ► So this is now, if I wanted to take an image

00:38:44 ◼   ► with the full sensor, I don't have to take a raw image,

00:38:48 ◼   ► which is like a thousand gigabytes.

00:38:50 ◼   ► It's just like a regular sized image

00:38:53 ◼   ► with all of that information in it,

00:38:54 ◼   ► and I can just tap the button at the top to change.

00:38:57 ◼   ► But yeah, I'm super excited about this higher resolution

00:39:00 ◼   ► image for regular photos that will be generated

00:39:04 ◼   ► by this sensor.

00:39:06 ◼   ► So I'm very excited about this.

00:39:08 ◼   ► I don't think we harmonized for you.

00:39:09 ◼   ► - Oh.

00:39:10 ◼   ► (both humming)

00:39:13 ◼   ► - Gotta get it, you know?

00:39:15 ◼   ► - My second pick in round two was at least one

00:39:18 ◼   ► of the new iPhones will have a customizable action button

00:39:21 ◼   ► instead of a traditional mute switch.

00:39:23 ◼   ► - Ding. - Yeah.

00:39:26 ◼   ► - It's literally called the action button.

00:39:29 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yeah.

00:39:31 ◼   ► - It's on the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max.

00:39:33 ◼   ► And it lets you switch between nine modes.

00:39:36 ◼   ► One of them, I think, coming later this year.

00:39:38 ◼   ► So you can, by default, it's still set to silent.

00:39:41 ◼   ► So you take an iPhone 15 Pro out of the box,

00:39:43 ◼   ► you long press the action button.

00:39:46 ◼   ► It's not just a quick press.

00:39:47 ◼   ► - That's right. - You can long press it,

00:39:49 ◼   ► and you switch between ring and silent mode.

00:39:51 ◼   ► However, you can also customize it to change your focus mode,

00:39:55 ◼   ► open a specific camera view, toggle the flashlight,

00:39:58 ◼   ► record a voice memo, translate,

00:40:00 ◼   ► which is coming later this year, open the magnifier,

00:40:04 ◼   ► use the accessibility shortcut,

00:40:05 ◼   ► or run any shortcut from the shortcuts app.

00:40:09 ◼   ► Obviously, I am very excited about this.

00:40:11 ◼   ► There's an interesting software story here

00:40:14 ◼   ► for the iPhone 15 Pro.

00:40:15 ◼   ► And just the idea of now you have a system-wide button

00:40:19 ◼   ► that you can use from anywhere on your phone

00:40:22 ◼   ► to launch whatever you want,

00:40:24 ◼   ► especially if you're a shortcuts user.

00:40:26 ◼   ► I think this is gonna be really fun to play around with.

00:40:29 ◼   ► And I also like the settings UI

00:40:33 ◼   ► for customizing what it does.

00:40:34 ◼   ► - They went way too hard on that, like in a good way.

00:40:39 ◼   ► - It's beautiful. - They went so hard on it.

00:40:43 ◼   ► There was no need to make it look the way that you did,

00:40:45 ◼   ► but thank you for doing it.

00:40:48 ◼   ► It's like somebody was like,

00:40:49 ◼   ► "Whoa, we can use Unity for stuff like this.

00:40:51 ◼   ► Oh, great, let's go for it."

00:40:53 ◼   ► It's very strange.

00:40:54 ◼   ► - You basically cycle through a bunch of splash screens

00:40:57 ◼   ► when you change those settings.

00:40:58 ◼   ► I think the default being silent ringer

00:41:00 ◼   ► makes obviously perfect sense.

00:41:02 ◼   ► And the press and hold, it's more than a long hold.

00:41:04 ◼   ► Like you press and hold it kind of a beat longer

00:41:08 ◼   ► than you think you will.

00:41:09 ◼   ► And it tells you that it's got a little UI that pops up,

00:41:12 ◼   ► but that means you can't easily accidentally do this

00:41:14 ◼   ► in your pocket, which is really good.

00:41:17 ◼   ► And the button is the same brush material,

00:41:20 ◼   ► so it looks really nice on the side of the phone.

00:41:22 ◼   ► It's right exactly where the ringer switch was,

00:41:25 ◼   ► so there's no new muscle memory.

00:41:27 ◼   ► I'm excited about this.

00:41:28 ◼   ► And I think there's gonna be some really cool stuff to do,

00:41:31 ◼   ► especially around shortcuts and accessibility

00:41:33 ◼   ► that this will unlock.

00:41:34 ◼   ► - Without having used it,

00:41:36 ◼   ► do each of you know what you would wanna put on that button?

00:41:39 ◼   ► - For sure, I think at a basic level,

00:41:42 ◼   ► a shortcut to save a note or like append,

00:41:47 ◼   ► because that's the one thing

00:41:49 ◼   ► that I find myself struggling with the most.

00:41:51 ◼   ► Like all the time, like I have a thought

00:41:54 ◼   ► and I need to put it somewhere.

00:41:56 ◼   ► So for sure, it's gonna be a shortcut to do that.

00:42:00 ◼   ► I am also playing around with the idea of

00:42:03 ◼   ► like when I long press the action button,

00:42:05 ◼   ► I get a list of multiple shortcuts that I can run,

00:42:09 ◼   ► like top five shortcuts or something, something like that.

00:42:12 ◼   ► - Steven?

00:42:13 ◼   ► - On my Apple Watch Ultra, I use it to trigger

00:42:15 ◼   ► the flashlight, which is not the most useful thing.

00:42:18 ◼   ► I have like a shortcut half built

00:42:20 ◼   ► that basically gives me a menu

00:42:22 ◼   ► of like common home kit things I do.

00:42:24 ◼   ► And I wanna finish building that out.

00:42:26 ◼   ► And I think that's gonna be my action button shortcut.

00:42:30 ◼   ► It's especially when you're walking into the house

00:42:32 ◼   ► or it's like, hey, turn these lights on or off.

00:42:35 ◼   ► Like just having something really quick there

00:42:37 ◼   ► would be nice.

00:42:39 ◼   ► So that's my plan,

00:42:40 ◼   ► but I need to finish building up that shortcut.

00:42:42 ◼   ► - I mean, at the moment, the best I have is do not disturb.

00:42:45 ◼   ► Like that's where I'm gonna start.

00:42:48 ◼   ► And then I'll see if something jumps out to me,

00:42:50 ◼   ► but like realistically that is quite useful for me.

00:42:54 ◼   ► Like being able to quickly turn on do not disturb,

00:42:56 ◼   ► I think will be pretty sweet.

00:42:58 ◼   ► However, I may just do that

00:43:01 ◼   ► as the action button on my Apple Watch.

00:43:03 ◼   ► 'Cause realistically, if I turn it on in one place,

00:43:06 ◼   ► it goes on in all places.

00:43:07 ◼   ► And so then I don't need to do that, right?

00:43:09 ◼   ► So I'll say like, that's probably where I would start.

00:43:12 ◼   ► The one thing that I really wanna know,

00:43:14 ◼   ► and I haven't seen anybody that could confirm this or not

00:43:17 ◼   ► is like, so how do you turn the phone to silent?

00:43:22 ◼   ► 'Cause it doesn't exist anywhere else

00:43:24 ◼   ► on the phones currently.

00:43:27 ◼   ► - From control, I bet they're gonna add

00:43:29 ◼   ► the toggling control to it.

00:43:30 ◼   ► - Yeah, me too. - I hope so.

00:43:31 ◼   ► Like the iPads, right? - Yeah, exactly.

00:43:33 ◼   ► - That's what I hope.

00:43:34 ◼   ► 'Cause like I was like, oh, let me go take a look.

00:43:36 ◼   ► And it's like, oh wait, if you go to settings in the sounds,

00:43:39 ◼   ► there is no option in there to do this.

00:43:42 ◼   ► Like the only way to do it is the ring switch.

00:43:45 ◼   ► - It's permanent, baby.

00:43:47 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yes, yeah.

00:43:48 ◼   ► It's like monkeys paw up, we give you an action button,

00:43:51 ◼   ► but you always have sounds on your phone

00:43:53 ◼   ► and there's nothing you can do about it.

00:43:56 ◼   ► - Make a decision before you customize it

00:43:59 ◼   ► because then you'll stop forever.

00:44:01 ◼   ► - Because if you change it,

00:44:04 ◼   ► like you lose the option for silent mode.

00:44:06 ◼   ► Every time you change, you lose one action button.

00:44:09 ◼   ► - We have real-time follow up from someone who did see it

00:44:12 ◼   ► on Dema Unit in Control Center.

00:44:14 ◼   ► - Who?

00:44:15 ◼   ► - I'm just gonna say Jason, Jason texted me

00:44:18 ◼   ► and then both of us.

00:44:19 ◼   ► Yeah, so that's great.

00:44:20 ◼   ► Thank you, Jason Snell. - Thank you, Jason Snell?

00:44:23 ◼   ► Is that how you pronounce it, I think?

00:44:23 ◼   ► - Jason Snell.

00:44:24 ◼   ► That's great, I'm very excited about that.

00:44:26 ◼   ► That's way better.

00:44:27 ◼   ► - All right, Mike, you're up.

00:44:28 ◼   ► Take us home for round two.

00:44:30 ◼   ► - At least one iPhone gets a three nanometer processor.

00:44:33 ◼   ► (mimics phone ringing)

00:44:37 ◼   ► And they gave us a terrible name or a confusing name.

00:44:40 ◼   ► - No, no. - It's confusing.

00:44:42 ◼   ► What are they gonna, A17 Pro.

00:44:44 ◼   ► - I have a theory.

00:44:45 ◼   ► Finally, there's no Bionic in it.

00:44:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, Bionic's dead.

00:44:48 ◼   ► - Oh, I'm happy about that.

00:44:49 ◼   ► I'm happy about that, don't get me wrong.

00:44:51 ◼   ► I didn't want Bionic there anymore.

00:44:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's a real naming bonanza now.

00:44:54 ◼   ► - Exactly. - I think I have

00:44:56 ◼   ► the same theory as Steven, but go on.

00:44:59 ◼   ► - So one thing they mentioned when they talked about USB-C

00:45:03 ◼   ► is that the A17 Pro comes with the USB 3 controller on it

00:45:08 ◼   ► and that's how they've been able to do this.

00:45:10 ◼   ► I don't know if that's the feature,

00:45:13 ◼   ► but will it lose something and become the regular A17

00:45:17 ◼   ► when it goes into the iPhone 16 line next year?

00:45:22 ◼   ► Kinda think it might because in Apple's other naming schemes

00:45:26 ◼   ► for its other processors that are based on this,

00:45:29 ◼   ► Pro is like more than the base

00:45:31 ◼   ► and I could see them leaving the door open.

00:45:33 ◼   ► Maybe it's not the USB 3 controller.

00:45:35 ◼   ► Maybe it's something else.

00:45:37 ◼   ► Maybe it's fewer cores.

00:45:39 ◼   ► - Maybe it's the YO GPU that they're so excited about.

00:45:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, it could be that.

00:45:41 ◼   ► It could be that that's, you know,

00:45:42 ◼   ► instead of six cores, it's four or something

00:45:44 ◼   ► and it becomes the A17 next year.

00:45:46 ◼   ► I don't know, this is a new chapter

00:45:48 ◼   ► and they changed the name for a reason,

00:45:49 ◼   ► but we may not know the reason for another year.

00:45:52 ◼   ► - 'Cause I guess this is how the computers go, right?

00:45:56 ◼   ► Oh, wrong.

00:45:57 ◼   ► Wait, with the computers, do we get the Pro ones first

00:46:01 ◼   ► or the regular ones first? - No, the regular one.

00:46:02 ◼   ► We've done like the M1

00:46:03 ◼   ► and then the Pro, Max, and Ultra come later.

00:46:05 ◼   ► - Okay, 'cause that's why it's confusing to me, right?

00:46:08 ◼   ► If like, if that's the plan,

00:46:09 ◼   ► why did they put the A16 Bionic in the iPhone 15?

00:46:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, I don't know.

00:46:14 ◼   ► - Why didn't they put the A17 in?

00:46:16 ◼   ► 'Cause they wanted to like prioritize the three nanometer

00:46:19 ◼   ► just for the Pro phones? - I think so.

00:46:20 ◼   ► And these cores will be the basis of the M3

00:46:23 ◼   ► whenever they show up.

00:46:24 ◼   ► And so maybe it is that,

00:46:25 ◼   ► or maybe they're just continuing this path

00:46:28 ◼   ► where the base phone gets last year's Pro stuff

00:46:32 ◼   ► and they can keep the price where it is because of that.

00:46:34 ◼   ► I did see a thing,

00:46:37 ◼   ► I think it was in Ben Thompson's newsletter,

00:46:39 ◼   ► but don't quote me.

00:46:41 ◼   ► I've read a lot of stuff the last 24 hours.

00:46:43 ◼   ► - No, it's too late.

00:46:44 ◼   ► I quoted you. - Oh no.

00:46:46 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:46:48 ◼   ► - Oh no, oh no. - The damage is done.

00:46:51 ◼   ► - The wafer cost from TSMC

00:46:54 ◼   ► for the three nanometer processors is a lot higher.

00:46:58 ◼   ► And maybe Apple is trying to preserve that

00:47:02 ◼   ► or keep costs down.

00:47:04 ◼   ► Maybe that kept them from doing this in the base phone.

00:47:07 ◼   ► But I think they're just in this cycle, right?

00:47:08 ◼   ► Where new stuff comes to the Pro

00:47:10 ◼   ► and then in a year or two or three,

00:47:12 ◼   ► it goes down to the mainstream phones.

00:47:14 ◼   ► And that's fine, I guess.

00:47:16 ◼   ► - Steven, if you wanna take a little break here, you can,

00:47:20 ◼   ► 'cause I wanna have a gaming sidebar with Federico.

00:47:22 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:47:23 ◼   ► - So Federico, during the advanced ray tracing segment,

00:47:28 ◼   ► which was very funny to me, just in general,

00:47:32 ◼   ► they showed off a couple of games that surprised me

00:47:34 ◼   ► coming to the iPhone,

00:47:35 ◼   ► the main one being Assassin's Creed Mirage.

00:47:37 ◼   ► And obviously I laughed to myself

00:47:40 ◼   ► when they showed Resident Evil Village

00:47:42 ◼   ► because it's just like,

00:47:43 ◼   ► my God, just get a new favorite game.

00:47:45 ◼   ► But then they were like, oh, we've also got RE4 Remake.

00:47:47 ◼   ► 'Cause like, wait, that came out this year

00:47:49 ◼   ► and then like earlier this year.

00:47:50 ◼   ► And they're like, oh, and Assassin's Creed Mirage,

00:47:52 ◼   ► which comes out in like a few weeks,

00:47:54 ◼   ► that's coming to the iPhone.

00:47:55 ◼   ► It's like, what is happening?

00:47:57 ◼   ► That was weird to me.

00:47:59 ◼   ► - Yep, yep.

00:48:01 ◼   ► - So I talked about this on AppSource last night with Jon.

00:48:04 ◼   ► - Yep, yep, yep, yep.

00:48:05 ◼   ► - Yeah, so Mirage is coming,

00:48:09 ◼   ► they said in the first half of 2024.

00:48:12 ◼   ► So we might as well get another demo at WWDC next year.

00:48:16 ◼   ► I am very intrigued by this idea

00:48:21 ◼   ► of having proper AAA titles

00:48:25 ◼   ► and all of their complexity on a phone.

00:48:29 ◼   ► I really wanna see what it's like to play a Ubisoft game

00:48:32 ◼   ► on a phone with the inventory and the map and everything.

00:48:36 ◼   ► But also, I mean, those videos,

00:48:40 ◼   ► that RE4 footage, it looked very good.

00:48:45 ◼   ► And I mean, sure, the ray tracing demo that they did,

00:48:50 ◼   ► they were like, and you can do ray tracing

00:48:52 ◼   ► at 30 frames per second.

00:48:53 ◼   ► I mean, obviously that's far beyond what you can get

00:48:56 ◼   ► on a high-end PC these days.

00:48:59 ◼   ► But it's still impressive, again, for a phone.

00:49:02 ◼   ► And so I wanna see what this--

00:49:06 ◼   ► - The assumption is this is like,

00:49:08 ◼   ► the M3 Pro, right, should be very competitive then,

00:49:13 ◼   ► would be my expectation,

00:49:15 ◼   ► if they have created this new type of GPU core.

00:49:18 ◼   ► But the thing that is interesting to me here

00:49:22 ◼   ► is I think you can see a change in Apple's gaming attitude

00:49:27 ◼   ► because Assassin's Creed Mirage is an Ubisoft game,

00:49:31 ◼   ► as is the Division Mobile.

00:49:33 ◼   ► The Division Mobile is just a mobile game.

00:49:35 ◼   ► That was coming out anyway.

00:49:37 ◼   ► It was already, I think there's already been beta for it.

00:49:41 ◼   ► That has not had anything enabled via this A17 Pro chip,

00:49:45 ◼   ► but that was, hey, let's do a deal here, right?

00:49:50 ◼   ► That's how I look at that.

00:49:51 ◼   ► And that is intriguing to me.

00:49:53 ◼   ► We're gonna give you a really smashing moment

00:49:55 ◼   ► to talk about your Division Mobile game that's coming.

00:49:58 ◼   ► And then we'll also give a moment

00:50:00 ◼   ► to talk about Assassin's Creed Mirage,

00:50:03 ◼   ► which is a full-on console game that's coming to the iPhone.

00:50:06 ◼   ► So I'm excited about that.

00:50:08 ◼   ► It seems that they vary them with Capcom,

00:50:11 ◼   ► they vary them with Ubisoft.

00:50:13 ◼   ► This is the kind of thing that we need to see Apple doing

00:50:16 ◼   ► if they are truly going to have a broader gaming strategy.

00:50:20 ◼   ► They need to be corporate friends and partners

00:50:23 ◼   ► to these large gaming companies.

00:50:25 ◼   ► And it looks like two of them,

00:50:26 ◼   ► they're building good relationships with.

00:50:28 ◼   ► And I think that's very good news.

00:50:29 ◼   ► - And also coming this year on the iPhone,

00:50:33 ◼   ► Death Stranding is also coming this year.

00:50:36 ◼   ► - Yes, yes, of course.

00:50:37 ◼   ► I forgot about that.

00:50:38 ◼   ► - I wanna believe that,

00:50:39 ◼   ► wanna believe the Director's Cut edition

00:50:41 ◼   ► that we got on consoles. - Yes, it is.

00:50:44 ◼   ► - I wanna see how these games get released on the App Store.

00:50:47 ◼   ► These are console games that you pay $70 for

00:50:50 ◼   ► on a console or PC.

00:50:53 ◼   ► Are you gonna spend $70 on the App Store?

00:50:55 ◼   ► They're not gonna be priced like that.

00:50:56 ◼   ► But also if it's a Resident Evil 4 remake,

00:51:00 ◼   ► it's gotta be the full game.

00:51:01 ◼   ► So will customers be in a situation

00:51:05 ◼   ► where if you wanna play this game on PS5, it costs you $70?

00:51:08 ◼   ► If you wanna play it on a phone, it costs you 20?

00:51:11 ◼   ► I don't know what to think.

00:51:14 ◼   ► I honestly don't know what to think.

00:51:16 ◼   ► - Can you imagine these games getting added to Apple Arcade?

00:51:19 ◼   ► - Can you imagine that?

00:51:21 ◼   ► - They could, why not?

00:51:23 ◼   ► A thought that I had, a thought that I had was,

00:51:25 ◼   ► is it too wild to imagine,

00:51:28 ◼   ► couple of years from now, maybe even next year,

00:51:30 ◼   ► multiple Apple Arcade tiers.

00:51:33 ◼   ► Like you can have basic Apple Arcade

00:51:35 ◼   ► or you could have Apple Arcade Plus, right?

00:51:38 ◼   ► - Which has console quality games.

00:51:40 ◼   ► - Which has console games.

00:51:41 ◼   ► - The most pro arcade.

00:51:43 ◼   ► - Indeed, this is the most pro arcade we've ever made.

00:51:46 ◼   ► They are laying the foundation.

00:51:49 ◼   ► This foundation is different.

00:51:50 ◼   ► And it genuinely feels to me that it's just like,

00:51:52 ◼   ► they had some kind of breakthrough,

00:51:54 ◼   ► which we're now starting to see in graphics.

00:51:57 ◼   ► And they're like, well, what's good for graphics games?

00:52:00 ◼   ► Well, we need to start getting some of those then.

00:52:02 ◼   ► - If they can get a ray tracing demo

00:52:07 ◼   ► to run a 30 FPS on a phone this year,

00:52:10 ◼   ► they might as well get 60 frames ray traced games

00:52:16 ◼   ► on a Mac next spring, on a phone next year,

00:52:21 ◼   ► on an iPad next year.

00:52:24 ◼   ► And that suddenly becomes a very serious type of hardware.

00:52:27 ◼   ► - We're in a different,

00:52:28 ◼   ► yeah, we're in a very, very different situation.

00:52:29 ◼   ► - Very different situation.

00:52:31 ◼   ► Because right now, if you wanna run something

00:52:33 ◼   ► like Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing

00:52:37 ◼   ► at 60 frames per second,

00:52:39 ◼   ► you're gonna need at the very least,

00:52:41 ◼   ► a 40 series Nvidia GPU.

00:52:43 ◼   ► At the very least. - Which is thousands.

00:52:45 ◼   ► - Which is thousands of dollars

00:52:48 ◼   ► for a very, very large object

00:52:52 ◼   ► that you need to have somewhere on your desk

00:52:54 ◼   ► or under your desk.

00:52:56 ◼   ► And to have that in a little chip in a phone,

00:53:00 ◼   ► that's a very different type of narrative, very different.

00:53:04 ◼   ► - Very excited about this genuinely.

00:53:05 ◼   ► I just think it's cool

00:53:07 ◼   ► and I'm excited to see what this means.

00:53:09 ◼   ► And I think that this just lends more credence

00:53:14 ◼   ► to this idea of like, the Mac Pro doesn't,

00:53:19 ◼   ► there's no point, right?

00:53:20 ◼   ► Like there's no point, they don't need it.

00:53:23 ◼   ► They don't need it.

00:53:24 ◼   ► Like, I think that this is just the furthering of that idea.

00:53:27 ◼   ► That like, if they're able to do 30 frames per second,

00:53:30 ◼   ► ray tracing on an iPhone,

00:53:32 ◼   ► they don't need external graphics cards.

00:53:34 ◼   ► They don't need them.

00:53:36 ◼   ► 'Cause they've found something

00:53:38 ◼   ► that's gonna make this work.

00:53:39 ◼   ► Now, obviously the next step is,

00:53:42 ◼   ► people have to make games for the platform, right?

00:53:45 ◼   ► Which is maybe a little trickier.

00:53:47 ◼   ► They're also doing that on the other side too.

00:53:50 ◼   ► And like getting new games,

00:53:52 ◼   ► not just Resident Evil Village six times, right?

00:53:55 ◼   ► Like this is good.

00:53:57 ◼   ► These are all really good in-roads.

00:53:59 ◼   ► Steven, I can see you're back now,

00:54:01 ◼   ► so we can stop talking about video games.

00:54:02 ◼   ► - I didn't go anywhere.

00:54:03 ◼   ► I just sat here quietly.

00:54:04 ◼   ► - But you could have, you could have, you know?

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00:56:35 ◼   ► Risky pick time.

00:56:37 ◼   ► I said Apple announces a multi-device charger

00:56:41 ◼   ► that looks a lot like AirPower

00:56:42 ◼   ► without designated charging targets.

00:56:45 ◼   ► Not only did I get this wrong,

00:56:47 ◼   ► they've discontinued MacSafe Duo,

00:56:49 ◼   ► which was the closest thing we had.

00:56:51 ◼   ► Yep, it's gone.

00:56:53 ◼   ► - I love how Apple is dealing with this transition

00:56:56 ◼   ► by just removing products from the line.

00:56:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, the battery pack's gone too.

00:56:58 ◼   ► - It's like, oh, you wanted USB-C?

00:57:00 ◼   ► We'll show you.

00:57:01 ◼   ► - I saw Steve Tranton Smith today was saying

00:57:03 ◼   ► that they don't make a dock anymore.

00:57:04 ◼   ► They always made the little iPhone dock.

00:57:06 ◼   ► No, but you can get rid of them.

00:57:08 ◼   ► You don't deserve them.

00:57:09 ◼   ► You're not allowed it.

00:57:11 ◼   ► - We don't make chargers.

00:57:13 ◼   ► Wow, chargers?

00:57:15 ◼   ► Wow, we never made chargers.

00:57:17 ◼   ► Who makes chargers?

00:57:17 ◼   ► - You said you had USB-C cables everywhere.

00:57:20 ◼   ► Fine, use them, use them.

00:57:22 ◼   ► - Exactly, yeah.

00:57:24 ◼   ► So yeah, Steven, I'm sorry.

00:57:26 ◼   ► - That's okay.

00:57:28 ◼   ► - Maybe you should have gone with your previous research.

00:57:29 ◼   ► - You know what, we're gonna talk about that.

00:57:32 ◼   ► - We're gonna get to that.

00:57:33 ◼   ► I mean, you can keep complaining as much as you'd like, but.

00:57:37 ◼   ► - That my victory was stolen from me?

00:57:38 ◼   ► Yeah, I'm gonna keep talking about that.

00:57:39 ◼   ► - No, you didn't follow the rules.

00:57:41 ◼   ► You didn't follow the rules.

00:57:42 ◼   ► - You didn't follow the rules.

00:57:44 ◼   ► Federico, you're up.

00:57:45 ◼   ► - No, I did.

00:57:46 ◼   ► - I'm up.

00:57:48 ◼   ► I said at least one of the new iPhones

00:57:51 ◼   ► will support the new G2 wireless charging.

00:57:55 ◼   ► So far so good.

00:57:58 ◼   ► And then it went downhill from there.

00:58:01 ◼   ► And reverse wireless charging for AirPods cases.

00:58:06 ◼   ► MagSafe charging speed will also be raised from 15 Watts.

00:58:11 ◼   ► Only the G2 happened.

00:58:13 ◼   ► - Did that actually happen?

00:58:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, it is confirmed, I believe,

00:58:18 ◼   ► either in the press release or on the website.

00:58:21 ◼   ► It says upcoming G2 standard will be supported,

00:58:26 ◼   ► but no sign of reverse wireless charging,

00:58:30 ◼   ► no sign of a faster MagSafe, still 15 Watts,

00:58:35 ◼   ► regular Qi still limited to 7.5 Watts.

00:58:39 ◼   ► What you can do though is you can use a USB-C cable

00:58:44 ◼   ► to charge your AirPods from an iPhone.

00:58:47 ◼   ► - And an Apple Watch too.

00:58:49 ◼   ► You can plug an Apple Watch cable in.

00:58:51 ◼   ► - And an Apple Watch too.

00:58:52 ◼   ► You know, it's USB-C.

00:58:53 ◼   ► - I was thinking, I said it on the show

00:58:55 ◼   ► and I was thinking about it more,

00:58:56 ◼   ► I don't think they're ever gonna do

00:58:57 ◼   ► the reverse wireless charging

00:58:59 ◼   ► because the magnet just won't line up.

00:59:01 ◼   ► And like that's, if they have MagSafe in both the phone

00:59:05 ◼   ► and the case, then I don't think we're ever gonna get it.

00:59:08 ◼   ► And I think to me, honestly,

00:59:10 ◼   ► it's like it's proven by the fact that they're like,

00:59:11 ◼   ► you can just use this cable and charge the two of them.

00:59:13 ◼   ► 'Cause that was the thing you couldn't do before.

00:59:15 ◼   ► And now you can just do that if you want to.

00:59:17 ◼   ► - They also didn't bring any faster wired charging

00:59:21 ◼   ► with the USB-C port.

00:59:22 ◼   ► That remains at the previous limit.

00:59:24 ◼   ► - I wonder why that is for them.

00:59:27 ◼   ► Do you think it's like a safety thing?

00:59:28 ◼   ► - I don't know.

00:59:29 ◼   ► I'm not sure what happened there.

00:59:32 ◼   ► I mean, other companies charge pretty quickly over USB-C

00:59:35 ◼   ► and seems fine.

00:59:37 ◼   ► I don't know what's going on there.

00:59:39 ◼   ► - Maybe they just don't want to make wired charging better

00:59:41 ◼   ► 'cause they really just want you to use MagSafe.

00:59:42 ◼   ► - I mean, they buried the lead on the USB-C port

00:59:45 ◼   ► real hard in the keynotes.

00:59:46 ◼   ► - I don't think they're gonna be able to do it,

00:59:51 ◼   ► but I do believe the idea

00:59:52 ◼   ► that they would like to have no port.

00:59:54 ◼   ► And so maybe it's just like,

00:59:55 ◼   ► we don't want to make the port any better.

00:59:57 ◼   ► We just want to keep telling people to use MagSafe instead,

01:00:00 ◼   ► which they definitely did in the presentation.

01:00:02 ◼   ► Like they were really hopping on about MagSafe.

01:00:05 ◼   ► My pick was Apple calls the new camera,

01:00:07 ◼   ► the magic telephoto.

01:00:09 ◼   ► - It was a good one.

01:00:10 ◼   ► - I feel vindicated in the idea that was like,

01:00:14 ◼   ► I was convinced they would not call this a periscope.

01:00:16 ◼   ► Like that was where I was coming from.

01:00:17 ◼   ► And I just thought they can't help but brand it.

01:00:19 ◼   ► And they surprised me.

01:00:20 ◼   ► They didn't actually brand it.

01:00:22 ◼   ► Although Tetra Prism, that's like a thing, right?

01:00:24 ◼   ► Like they didn't come up with that or did they?

01:00:26 ◼   ► - I don't know if they came up with it,

01:00:28 ◼   ► but they're not referring to it in the marketing material.

01:00:31 ◼   ► Like it's the Tetra Prism camera.

01:00:34 ◼   ► Really, I mean, they call it the telephoto on the specs page

01:00:37 ◼   ► just the same as it always was.

01:00:40 ◼   ► Apple kind of restrained themselves

01:00:42 ◼   ► on putting a bunch of new branding on things this year.

01:00:45 ◼   ► I mean, they named it Natural Titanium.

01:00:47 ◼   ► It's like the most non-brand you can get.

01:00:50 ◼   ► - So talking about branding, obviously they kept with max,

01:00:53 ◼   ► right, it's like pro max.

01:00:54 ◼   ► I actually think now like an ultra could have both a

01:00:59 ◼   ► like regular telephoto and the Tetra Prism with maybe longer.

01:01:04 ◼   ► - We're going to four cameras, baby.

01:01:08 ◼   ► - We're doing four lenses.

01:01:09 ◼   ► - Honestly, I kind of wish they went with four lenses

01:01:10 ◼   ► this time so I could have had like a 3X and a 5X,

01:01:14 ◼   ► but we'll see how I feel about that

01:01:15 ◼   ► when I actually get the phone.

01:01:17 ◼   ► But yeah, I was convinced they wouldn't call it

01:01:20 ◼   ► a periscope, I mean, how different is Tetra Prism

01:01:24 ◼   ► to what Samsung's doing?

01:01:25 ◼   ► I don't know, but it's effectively the same idea.

01:01:28 ◼   ► And it's just one of these things of like,

01:01:31 ◼   ► almost like a Reality Pro where we said a thing for so long

01:01:36 ◼   ► and now we just can't say it anymore because it's not true.

01:01:38 ◼   ► Like it's not a periscope lens,

01:01:39 ◼   ► they're not calling it a periscope lens.

01:01:40 ◼   ► So we can't call it a periscope lens.

01:01:42 ◼   ► We have to just call it the 5X solfo lens and just move.

01:01:45 ◼   ► - Oh my God, I forgot about the Reality Pro.

01:01:48 ◼   ► - Right, 'cause that was like a couple of week period

01:01:50 ◼   ► where I had to keep tripping myself of like,

01:01:53 ◼   ► no, it's not Reality Pro, it's Vision Pro.

01:01:56 ◼   ► But 'cause we have these short hands for things.

01:01:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, when we called it XROS, remember that?

01:02:01 ◼   ► - Yes.

01:02:02 ◼   ► - Oh, that was silly.

01:02:05 ◼   ► Okay.

01:02:06 ◼   ► - Although no one liked that, no one liked that,

01:02:08 ◼   ► but that was just what it was being called.

01:02:11 ◼   ► - So we are tied.

01:02:12 ◼   ► We each got both of our regular pics

01:02:15 ◼   ► and we each lost our riskies.

01:02:17 ◼   ► So we are tied with one point each.

01:02:21 ◼   ► So Mike, what do we do now?

01:02:22 ◼   ► - Well, hilariously, we now revert back

01:02:25 ◼   ► to the coin flip knockout rules,

01:02:27 ◼   ► which is this is the third time this has happened

01:02:30 ◼   ► in Ricky's history.

01:02:31 ◼   ► The second time was the last time we did this.

01:02:34 ◼   ► And the first time was in 2019, I think.

01:02:38 ◼   ► - I have a question.

01:02:40 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:02:41 ◼   ► - When's the last time somebody got a Ricky correct?

01:02:46 ◼   ► Like a risky pic?

01:02:47 ◼   ► Oh, that's a good question.

01:02:51 ◼   ► I am convinced that somebody can...

01:02:53 ◼   ► So I feel like you might be angling towards something

01:02:57 ◼   ► that I was thinking about today, which is just like...

01:02:59 ◼   ► - Is our game broken?

01:03:01 ◼   ► - Yes, we've broken the game.

01:03:02 ◼   ► We've broken the game.

01:03:03 ◼   ► - I think maybe we have.

01:03:05 ◼   ► - Yeah, and so like that is a consideration for later on,

01:03:08 ◼   ► but we do have the coin flip knockout rules,

01:03:11 ◼   ► which is we all, 2020, November, 2020, says Jason,

01:03:16 ◼   ► who runs a Wikipedia.

01:03:17 ◼   ► - Let's see, November, 2020.

01:03:19 ◼   ► - November, 2020 was the last time

01:03:21 ◼   ► that somebody got a risky pic.

01:03:23 ◼   ► - Who got it?

01:03:24 ◼   ► Steven got it?

01:03:24 ◼   ► - Don't say that was such a surprise in your voice.

01:03:27 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:03:28 ◼   ► - Of all of us?

01:03:28 ◼   ► Come on, no way.

01:03:30 ◼   ► - No, both of you, both of you got it.

01:03:33 ◼   ► - We both got our risky picks in that one.

01:03:37 ◼   ► - November, 2020, Steven said

01:03:39 ◼   ► the desktop Apple Silicon Mac is announced.

01:03:41 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, the Mac mini, my dream.

01:03:43 ◼   ► My dream of the Apple Silicon Mac mini.

01:03:45 ◼   ► - And Mike said an Apple Silicon Mac is cheaper

01:03:48 ◼   ► than the product it replaces.

01:03:50 ◼   ► - Yeah, which I think was also the Mac mini.

01:03:52 ◼   ► - Maybe there's just a thing in there

01:03:53 ◼   ► where like those are risky, but not wild.

01:03:55 ◼   ► And I think we've just gotten more wild all over time.

01:03:57 ◼   ► So maybe this is a thing for the three of us

01:04:00 ◼   ► of like being a bit more realistic of our risky picks.

01:04:03 ◼   ► Although I don't think mine was wild.

01:04:04 ◼   ► Like I don't think mine was super out there.

01:04:07 ◼   ► I think the two of you have more that was super out there.

01:04:10 ◼   ► But mine was complicated

01:04:12 ◼   ► because I was trying to name a thing,

01:04:13 ◼   ► which is just like, never try and do that.

01:04:15 ◼   ► So the coin flip knockout,

01:04:17 ◼   ► this is the third time in Ricky's history.

01:04:19 ◼   ► We all just say heads or tails

01:04:21 ◼   ► and we keep going until there's one person left.

01:04:24 ◼   ► - Okay. - Okay.

01:04:26 ◼   ► - So I'm gonna say heads.

01:04:28 ◼   ► - I'm gonna say tails.

01:04:29 ◼   ► - I'm gonna say heads.

01:04:31 ◼   ► - Coin says tails, but I'm saying

01:04:35 ◼   ► you should visit stjude.org/relay.

01:04:38 ◼   ► - So thank you to Kathy Campbell for that.

01:04:40 ◼   ► And that just means that Steven wins.

01:04:41 ◼   ► That's the end of that.

01:04:43 ◼   ► Congratulations, Steven Hackett.

01:04:44 ◼   ► - I have retained my keynote chairman status.

01:04:47 ◼   ► - Well.

01:04:49 ◼   ► - Now you two need to flip for the loser.

01:04:52 ◼   ► - Oh yes, okay.

01:04:53 ◼   ► - Why, what do we need a loser?

01:04:55 ◼   ► - Because y'all are still tied.

01:04:56 ◼   ► - Yeah, we're tied.

01:04:58 ◼   ► There has to be an order, right, for the next one.

01:05:01 ◼   ► So heads or tails?

01:05:04 ◼   ► - Heads.

01:05:05 ◼   ► - Get your tails to stjude.org/relay and donate now.

01:05:10 ◼   ► - That was Jason.

01:05:12 ◼   ► By the way, this is something that James Thompson did

01:05:15 ◼   ► and put it in there.

01:05:16 ◼   ► This will be, Dice by Peacock will be playing, I think,

01:05:20 ◼   ► quite an important role in the Podcastathon.

01:05:24 ◼   ► More about that later on.

01:05:25 ◼   ► And thank you to our Relay FM hosts who,

01:05:28 ◼   ► unbeknownst to us, recorded some St. Jude messages

01:05:32 ◼   ► that got put into Dice by Peacock.

01:05:33 ◼   ► It's in the Relay FM mode right now.

01:05:36 ◼   ► - So that's me and then Mike and then Federico.

01:05:40 ◼   ► - When you think about it, the loser is the new winner.

01:05:42 ◼   ► - Interesting.

01:05:42 ◼   ► - Of these games, yeah.

01:05:44 ◼   ► - Interesting.

01:05:45 ◼   ► - Yeah, okay.

01:05:46 ◼   ► - More fashionable, so.

01:05:48 ◼   ► - The lose?

01:05:49 ◼   ► It's more fashionable to be the loser?

01:05:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, because you came in last

01:05:53 ◼   ► and everybody's waiting for you.

01:05:54 ◼   ► They're like, "There he is."

01:05:57 ◼   ► - Or maybe everyone just got on with the thing

01:05:58 ◼   ► that they were doing and then you just arrived

01:06:00 ◼   ► and they were all busy?

01:06:01 ◼   ► - No, no, no, no, no.

01:06:01 ◼   ► - Okay, fair enough.

01:06:02 ◼   ► - No.

01:06:03 ◼   ► - But there's money on the line.

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01:07:58 ◼   ► It is now time to move into the Flexis.

01:08:01 ◼   ► The Flexis is a game held after each edition

01:08:04 ◼   ► of the Rickies.

01:08:05 ◼   ► It consists of a series of additional picks

01:08:07 ◼   ► in relation to the upcoming Apple event or year.

01:08:10 ◼   ► Scoring is completed separately from the main game,

01:08:12 ◼   ► but like the Rickies, the order of picks is set

01:08:14 ◼   ► by the results of the previous game,

01:08:16 ◼   ► and ties will be broken by using dice by Peacock.

01:08:19 ◼   ► Please lie down as the rules are read.

01:08:21 ◼   ► (dramatic music)

01:08:24 ◼   ► Hosts must make a minimum of five Flexi picks.

01:08:30 ◼   ► Each correct pick is awarded with one point.

01:08:32 ◼   ► Wrong picks do not remove any points

01:08:34 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

01:08:37 ◼   ► The winner is determined by comparing the percentage

01:08:39 ◼   ► of correct Flexis made by each host.

01:08:41 ◼   ► The winner can use their chosen title

01:08:43 ◼   ► as long as they are the winner.

01:08:45 ◼   ► Federico shall be named Prince Flexi

01:08:48 ◼   ► and is known as King Flexi when having won

01:08:52 ◼   ► both the keynote and annual games.

01:08:54 ◼   ► Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington

01:08:56 ◼   ► and uses the name Archduke Flexington when applicable.

01:09:01 ◼   ► Steven is the Attorney General Flexi

01:09:03 ◼   ► and uses the title Secretary of Deflex when necessary.

01:09:07 ◼   ► Loser of the Flexis must compensate the winner

01:09:11 ◼   ► of the Flexis by donating to a charity

01:09:13 ◼   ► of the winner's choice.

01:09:15 ◼   ► The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong Flexi

01:09:18 ◼   ► made by the loser.

01:09:19 ◼   ► The money must be donated on air.

01:09:23 ◼   ► Federico is the current winner of the keynote Flexis

01:09:26 ◼   ► and Mike is the winner of the annual Flexis.

01:09:28 ◼   ► If someone holds all four titles, by the way,

01:09:30 ◼   ► they're allowed to choose their own label,

01:09:33 ◼   ► their own name, their own moniker.

01:09:35 ◼   ► You can be seated.

01:09:37 ◼   ► Number one, some of the new iPhones will be more expensive

01:09:42 ◼   ► in some European countries.

01:09:43 ◼   ► This is wrong.

01:09:44 ◼   ► In fact, the iPhone 15 Pro is cheaper in Europe than before.

01:09:48 ◼   ► Yes, this is wild.

01:09:49 ◼   ► Literally, literally. The Apple Watch 2.

01:09:51 ◼   ► The opposite.

01:09:53 ◼   ► Hey, I'll take it.

01:09:55 ◼   ► But this is one of those ones

01:09:56 ◼   ► where you actually win by losing.

01:09:58 ◼   ► Yeah, true.

01:10:00 ◼   ► Number two, a new AirPods case with USB-C is unveiled.

01:10:03 ◼   ► Yep.

01:10:04 ◼   ► It just comes with AirPods in it.

01:10:09 ◼   ► Yeah, well, but there's a case.

01:10:12 ◼   ► No, you get it.

01:10:13 ◼   ► Didn't say anything about what's inside.

01:10:16 ◼   ► So number three, iOS 17 gets released

01:10:20 ◼   ► the week of September 18th.

01:10:22 ◼   ► It is Monday the 18th.

01:10:27 ◼   ► So stay tuned for my review.

01:10:31 ◼   ► Number four, Apple won't release any new leather accessories

01:10:35 ◼   ► as part of the event announcements,

01:10:36 ◼   ► including cases and watch bands.

01:10:39 ◼   ► Ding.

01:10:41 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:10:43 ◼   ► Steven, Steven, thoughts on flex woven, fine woven,

01:10:47 ◼   ► whatever it's called.

01:10:48 ◼   ► The fine woven is fire.

01:10:49 ◼   ► Fire woven.

01:10:50 ◼   ► Fire woven.

01:10:52 ◼   ► It's really nice.

01:10:53 ◼   ► I did not get to play with any cases that were fine woven,

01:10:56 ◼   ► but I have one coming to my house tomorrow, apparently.

01:10:58 ◼   ► So I ordered one, it's like, it'll be here Thursday.

01:11:01 ◼   ► It's like, oh wow, okay.

01:11:02 ◼   ► So I guess I'll have some thoughts on that

01:11:05 ◼   ► somewhere on the internet later this week.

01:11:07 ◼   ► But the watch bands at least are all very nice.

01:11:09 ◼   ► It seems very high end.

01:11:12 ◼   ► I know some people who still want leather,

01:11:13 ◼   ► they'll have to turn to third parties,

01:11:15 ◼   ► but I think this is a good move.

01:11:16 ◼   ► I got an email from Bellroy today

01:11:19 ◼   ► that they have leather iPhone 15 cases

01:11:22 ◼   ► shipping within the next two days.

01:11:24 ◼   ► And I don't know how that's possible.

01:11:25 ◼   ► Yeah, that's wild.

01:11:27 ◼   ► How do you do that?

01:11:28 ◼   ► I don't know how they did that.

01:11:29 ◼   ► I did order also a peak design case.

01:11:31 ◼   ► And I think fine woven will be pretty similar

01:11:34 ◼   ► to the feel of that case.

01:11:36 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

01:11:38 ◼   ► Number five, iPhone 15 gets slower speed USB-C transfers

01:11:42 ◼   ► compared to the pro models.

01:11:43 ◼   ► (humming)

01:11:46 ◼   ► We talked about it before.

01:11:48 ◼   ► Nobody cares, but I get the point.

01:11:50 ◼   ► And number six, the David Guetta song

01:11:53 ◼   ► plays either before or during the event.

01:11:56 ◼   ► And--

01:11:57 ◼   ► I was so happy that that didn't happen.

01:11:58 ◼   ► Astoundingly it did not.

01:12:00 ◼   ► Great restraint shown there, I think.

01:12:04 ◼   ► So that gets me four correct flexes out of six

01:12:11 ◼   ► for 66%.

01:12:13 ◼   ► The flexes of the beast.

01:12:15 ◼   ► That's gonna be hard to beat.

01:12:16 ◼   ► That's pretty good.

01:12:17 ◼   ► Some iPhones will come with color match cables,

01:12:21 ◼   ► which is not the case.

01:12:24 ◼   ► Apple Watch SE is not updated, but receives a price cut.

01:12:29 ◼   ► Nope, same price.

01:12:31 ◼   ► They were like, "And it costs this."

01:12:33 ◼   ► And I scrambled to my open connected tab.

01:12:35 ◼   ► I was like, "Oh, that's the same cost it used to be."

01:12:38 ◼   ► The Apple Watch Ultra 2 comes in at least one new finish.

01:12:42 ◼   ► No, I can't believe they didn't do it.

01:12:43 ◼   ► There was like a ripple through the room

01:12:45 ◼   ► when they finished the Ultra 2 section

01:12:48 ◼   ► and there was not a new finish.

01:12:49 ◼   ► Number four, Apple replaces its leather iPhone cases

01:12:52 ◼   ► with a new product.

01:12:53 ◼   ► Find woven, wins again.

01:12:59 ◼   ► - By the way, how funny is it that like,

01:13:01 ◼   ► they're almost like guilting you now

01:13:03 ◼   ► with the carbon neutral Apple Watches?

01:13:05 ◼   ► Like that there's some that aren't

01:13:07 ◼   ► and so it's like, "Oh, what, so you're gonna,

01:13:09 ◼   ► whoa, you're gonna buy the Ocean Band?

01:13:11 ◼   ► Whoa, what do you hate the environment?

01:13:12 ◼   ► Do you hate the ocean?

01:13:13 ◼   ► Why would you buy the Ocean Band?"

01:13:15 ◼   ► It's very strange.

01:13:16 ◼   ► It's a very strange scenario we found ourselves in.

01:13:18 ◼   ► - We didn't really talk about that.

01:13:19 ◼   ► And now there's someone sawing outside my hotel room,

01:13:21 ◼   ► so I'm sorry.

01:13:22 ◼   ► It just is what it is this week.

01:13:24 ◼   ► We talked about that on Mac Power Easers last night though.

01:13:27 ◼   ► So if you wanna hear a lot more

01:13:28 ◼   ► about Apple's environmental stuff,

01:13:30 ◼   ► there's a whole chapter and MPU about it.

01:13:32 ◼   ► What are they cutting outside?

01:13:33 ◼   ► What are you doing?

01:13:34 ◼   ► - That they're trying to get in.

01:13:35 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, they know that I have to check out

01:13:37 ◼   ► in 30 minutes.

01:13:37 ◼   ► Okay, number six, no, number five.

01:13:42 ◼   ► iPhone Pro models will be equipped with Thunderbolt

01:13:44 ◼   ► but come with a USB-C cable in the box

01:13:46 ◼   ► requiring a separate purchase of a Thunderbolt cable.

01:13:49 ◼   ► Spiritually, this is right.

01:13:51 ◼   ► Just all the specs are wrong.

01:13:52 ◼   ► - You're in the right track.

01:13:53 ◼   ► - The spirit of the Flexi is right.

01:13:56 ◼   ► - But the flesh of the Flexi is wrong.

01:13:58 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:13:59 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:14:01 ◼   ► - Number six.

01:14:03 ◼   ► - Flesh.

01:14:04 ◼   ► - Flesh.

01:14:05 ◼   ► - The fleshy.

01:14:06 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:14:08 ◼   ► - Love my Flexi wife.

01:14:10 ◼   ► Number six, iPhone 15 to 15 plus getting always on display.

01:14:14 ◼   ► - Got dynamic island though.

01:14:15 ◼   ► - And it's brighter.

01:14:16 ◼   ► And it's brighter, but no, always on.

01:14:19 ◼   ► - So always on is for pros.

01:14:20 ◼   ► Only pros want their screens to be always on.

01:14:22 ◼   ► We all know this.

01:14:23 ◼   ► - Number seven, by the time we grade these picks,

01:14:25 ◼   ► our St. Jude fundraiser will be over $250,000.

01:14:29 ◼   ► And we were at 270 when we started this episode.

01:14:31 ◼   ► - Ding.

01:14:34 ◼   ► - Oh yes, the insider trading Flexi.

01:14:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, this was one of those things where it's like,

01:14:40 ◼   ► you know, you kind of,

01:14:41 ◼   ► well, how can you argue with the charity pick?

01:14:43 ◼   ► But we now have entered into this realm of like,

01:14:46 ◼   ► we can just pick anything.

01:14:47 ◼   ► - I have.

01:14:48 ◼   ► - Like Mike will watch it at his studio.

01:14:50 ◼   ► - I may have opened a can of worms I shouldn't have,

01:14:53 ◼   ► but it's for the kids.

01:14:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, this is Pandora's Flexi.

01:14:56 ◼   ► Like you didn't want to have done this.

01:14:59 ◼   ► 'Cause yeah, it's very odd.

01:15:01 ◼   ► - Yeah, this opens a whole new world of possibilities

01:15:04 ◼   ► for the future.

01:15:05 ◼   ► But we'll talk about it.

01:15:06 ◼   ► - We're gonna play 4D Flexi next time.

01:15:08 ◼   ► - Number eight.

01:15:12 ◼   ► - The weather would be nice.

01:15:13 ◼   ► - There we go, here we go.

01:15:16 ◼   ► - The iPhone 15 Pro Max or Ultra

01:15:19 ◼   ► weighs within 10% of the 14 Pro Max's weight.

01:15:24 ◼   ► Not graded.

01:15:25 ◼   ► The new phone will need to be between 216 and 264 grams.

01:15:30 ◼   ► You know what it comes in at boys?

01:15:32 ◼   ► 221.

01:15:33 ◼   ► Hmm, ding.

01:15:36 ◼   ► Hmm.

01:15:39 ◼   ► Ding.

01:15:42 ◼   ► - Numbers, am I right?

01:15:43 ◼   ► - Numbers.

01:15:44 ◼   ► - How do they work?

01:15:44 ◼   ► - I got it as a Flexi and I'll take it here.

01:15:48 ◼   ► You know, it is what it is.

01:15:50 ◼   ► - It wouldn't have been,

01:15:51 ◼   ► remember we said to you as the Ricky,

01:15:53 ◼   ► - Had to be 5%.

01:15:54 ◼   ► - And it wouldn't have been.

01:15:55 ◼   ► - So instead of costing me a point in the main game,

01:15:58 ◼   ► I'm getting a point in the Flexis,

01:15:59 ◼   ► but it's not enough because I only got three right.

01:16:02 ◼   ► That is 37%.

01:16:04 ◼   ► That is not enough to catch Federico.

01:16:06 ◼   ► - No, but is it enough to catch me?

01:16:09 ◼   ► Let's find out.

01:16:10 ◼   ► - See how Mike does.

01:16:12 ◼   ► Number one, new Apple Watch Ultra Band style.

01:16:16 ◼   ► No, just the three.

01:16:17 ◼   ► - The new colors are nice.

01:16:19 ◼   ► - Yeah, the colors are nice.

01:16:20 ◼   ► The colors are nice in general.

01:16:22 ◼   ► And I will say on the final band,

01:16:23 ◼   ► I'm happy that the magnetic link remains

01:16:26 ◼   ► 'cause that is my favorite watch band.

01:16:27 ◼   ► I don't think I'm that keen on the colors they've got,

01:16:30 ◼   ► but colors, they change them.

01:16:32 ◼   ► So I'm just happy that that watch band style

01:16:34 ◼   ► is sticking around even though there's no leather anymore.

01:16:37 ◼   ► And by the way, those Nike ones look sick.

01:16:40 ◼   ► - Yes.

01:16:41 ◼   ► - They look so good.

01:16:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, I put some pictures of those on Instagram.

01:16:45 ◼   ► They look really cool.

01:16:46 ◼   ► - Oh, I missed that.

01:16:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, those are my stories yesterday.

01:16:49 ◼   ► - I was in the stories.

01:16:50 ◼   ► Okay, well, I'm gonna go to Steven's story.

01:16:52 ◼   ► - Well, I'm an influencer.

01:16:53 ◼   ► - ISMH86.

01:16:55 ◼   ► - Shut up.

01:16:56 ◼   ► - No, just a little bit of using it.

01:16:58 ◼   ► Oh yeah, look at that.

01:16:59 ◼   ► There it is.

01:17:00 ◼   ► Oh, all right, fair enough.

01:17:01 ◼   ► Oh, that looks really good.

01:17:03 ◼   ► Yeah, I like it.

01:17:04 ◼   ► It's like, it's like Terazzo Watch band.

01:17:06 ◼   ► Three, Apple says they have formulated

01:17:10 ◼   ► a new type of titanium that has special properties.

01:17:15 ◼   ► (humming)

01:17:18 ◼   ► They said a lot about it.

01:17:20 ◼   ► And they also were talking about Mars rovers

01:17:22 ◼   ► and all that kind of stuff.

01:17:24 ◼   ► Very exciting for everybody.

01:17:25 ◼   ► - Very exciting indeed.

01:17:27 ◼   ► - Apple debuts a new style of charger accessory

01:17:30 ◼   ► for the iPhone.

01:17:31 ◼   ► They actually, as we mentioned earlier-

01:17:32 ◼   ► - What chargers?

01:17:33 ◼   ► What chargers?

01:17:34 ◼   ► - They got rid of them.

01:17:36 ◼   ► - Apple don't make chargers.

01:17:39 ◼   ► What are they?

01:17:40 ◼   ► Five, Apple announces a new AirPods Max

01:17:45 ◼   ► featuring USB-C and made of titanium.

01:17:48 ◼   ► Steven, the Discord's very upset about this titanium pick.

01:17:51 ◼   ► You graded it as correct, so-

01:17:53 ◼   ► - What titanium pick?

01:17:55 ◼   ► - I didn't grade this.

01:17:56 ◼   ► - What, formulated a new kind?

01:17:57 ◼   ► - About the new kind of titanium.

01:17:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:18:00 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:18:01 ◼   ► I'm just saying, everyone's saying,

01:18:02 ◼   ► you said it was correct,

01:18:03 ◼   ► so I'm just gonna keep going on that.

01:18:05 ◼   ► Six, Dynamic Island and all new iPhones.

01:18:08 ◼   ► (hums)

01:18:10 ◼   ► Yes.

01:18:13 ◼   ► And seven, the best one of all,

01:18:14 ◼   ► the David Guetta song doesn't play.

01:18:18 ◼   ► - I refuse to hum.

01:18:19 ◼   ► (hums)

01:18:20 ◼   ► ♪ Titanium ♪

01:18:22 ◼   ► (hums)

01:18:24 ◼   ► - That's pretty good, right?

01:18:28 ◼   ► - That was good.

01:18:29 ◼   ► - That's pretty good.

01:18:30 ◼   ► - So what's your percentage?

01:18:31 ◼   ► - Okay, so that would be three out of seven, 42%.

01:18:36 ◼   ► So I owe a hundred bucks somewhere.

01:18:39 ◼   ► - Up to St. Jude.

01:18:40 ◼   ► I continue to be Prince Flexi.

01:18:43 ◼   ► That is the takeaway from this episode.

01:18:47 ◼   ► - And I remain the chairman.

01:18:48 ◼   ► - Let's face it.

01:18:49 ◼   ► - No changes in leadership today.

01:18:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, peaceful transfer of power.

01:18:53 ◼   ► - We do the whole thing, nothing's changed.

01:18:56 ◼   ► - Nothing's changed.

01:18:56 ◼   ► (laughs)

01:18:58 ◼   ► I've donated $100 to stjude.org/relay.

01:19:01 ◼   ► - Well done. - Thank you.

01:19:02 ◼   ► - If you wanna find links to the stories we spoke about

01:19:05 ◼   ► and the scorecards on the web,

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01:19:27 ◼   ► between now and the next episode,

01:19:28 ◼   ► you can follow Mike at mike.social.

01:19:31 ◼   ► He's imike there on Macedon.

01:19:33 ◼   ► And he is imike on Threads.

01:19:36 ◼   ► Mike is also the host of a bunch of other shows.

01:19:38 ◼   ► Upgrade is in my queue.

01:19:39 ◼   ► Y'all's episode right for the keynote yesterday.

01:19:42 ◼   ► Cortex, the Panatic, lots of great stuff.

01:19:44 ◼   ► And your work over at Cortex brand.

01:19:48 ◼   ► Federico's the real person you wanna pay attention to

01:19:50 ◼   ► next week because the iOS and iPadOS 17 reviews

01:19:53 ◼   ► will be out on Mac Stories.

01:19:54 ◼   ► So be sure to follow along.

01:19:56 ◼   ► He is vatici@macstories.net on Macedon.