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00:23:26 ◼ ► mean the noise meter look like about the same in both cases so you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► it's like it's not worse but it's not better and that was kinda depressing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► mean it's not bad news but it's not really good news either but then came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► into this YouTube video by Max urea and he does a whole bunch tested as a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► of stats I'm never watching these guys videos in this one had a small number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► used I think everything just go look at this video but I think it's very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► done and talks like it at a nice pace very clearly could be prepared if he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► going to do is get infographics and everything I thought it was really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► I was impressed by your YouTube video maybe it's because I don't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► be any be super famous I don't know that sorry but this video may have a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► thousand views so I figured this is not OK Bhd this is somewhat but anyway his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► conclusions were different and more detail things he said in the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► condition was in the new model the fans ramp up earlier than the old model just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► try to keep the temperature is down there is rather than waiting for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► that are really out of hand temperature wise and then turning up and it turns on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► the fans faster sooner which is why the great the temperature rises good in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► GPU tests seems like the new one can keep the GPU within whatever happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► that says the tolerance like they want to keep it under a hundred degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► Celsius whatever whenever they set a limit the new 52 a.m. according to Maxis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► tests can keep the GPU within that limit with the fan going slow so in these any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► GPS like well they're both the Jeep user or similar temperature but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► way lower so I like that especially in a four-game thumbs up the CPU tests the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► new 52 a.m. I didn't do any CPU throwing the old one would throw the CPU down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► when I got to the new and didn't get the CBO lower temperatures sometimes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► slightly higher fan speeds mostly because the new model has a higher max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► speed for the fan and some SAT around here after 15 minutes the CPU testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► the old iMac has thrown down to 3.3 yards and it was a hundred degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► Celsius and the family's going 2700 rpm and the new iMac was not throughout is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► at fault for gay rights is 10 degrees cooler at 89 degrees Celsius and the fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► was going about the same speed 2650 rpm so nice video made me excited about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► new iMac because it seems to basically seems to keep the intercooler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► Chelsea did a manual override and the fans that if you do crank the fans up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► the new iMac can keep both the CPU and GPU ridiculously cool so really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► just a question of how much noise you willing to tolerate how much temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► going to tolerate so I'm feeling better about the iMac than the old one as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► people point out you're not going to get a real substantive improvements in GBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► particular until they change the process i think is also 28 nanometers just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► Marcos model but what am I gonna get on as I max and probably gonna get it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► the with the bestie Pia also some real-time follow-up from Kim Albertina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► chap it appears as though the new Apple TV might have built endemic range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► might have a built-in fan of linking they did a member of the the famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► iFixit teardown that got them kicked out of the after yeah yeah we know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► no fan but it appears that there might might have now agreed foreperson built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► in so I i'm looking forward to trying it on by defaulting you can't turn it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► me in in the screenshot posted here which one of the videos from somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► dev kit there's an option on the audio menu it within a movie like this info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► subtitles and audio and it says full dynamic range or reduced loud sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► nice way of putting it out like that rather than branding it is one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► weird words that every company uses for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► range compression the first option is not great but the second option people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► what people do I'm hoping that dynamic range and the watch a movie and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► won't be able to hear what you're saying and the crank the volume that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► exploded Bisbee test then they go to some time and yes reduced lad sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► exactly what I want in the ticket so that's that's some good copywriting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► Voice boost have a trademark 2012 tell us about the adjustable iMac and monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► stands I'm assuming this is John yeah what people wrote in to tell us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► they thought we didn't need to put our miners and have them anything because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► were confused about the correct height monitors I'm not confused I know the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► of the monitor according to all the economic experts is supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► roughly aligned with your eyeliner everything bad that it shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► looking out on all the things I know that member I have a 23 inch monitor so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► it has to be honest and to be up like that and also if you're if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► have a keyboard tray getting your keyboard at the right height means your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► desk is gonna be much lower than you think or you cherish to be higher than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► comic least I am an arms embargo is the correct height of all the things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► better to have options and if it means taking a bunch of books or piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► lucite or whatever to make him out of the right height that's what you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► do but a lot of people also pointed out that the real solution to all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► miners not quite at the right height thing is to either get your Mac monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► or third-party monitor or your iMac itself with a VESA mount then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► put on an arm or any other kind of adjustable thing that accepts Visa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► mountain I believe this is the case and has been the case for a while now if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► want that you can't just buy an iMac it's a great long it take off this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► little else shape thing and put on a visa you have to order it away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► Apple will give you the iMac but you can bet with VESA mount about this place but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► ok and we have some suppose it answers with regard to the face back to fix back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► the Facebook app usage battery gate thing yes so pretty shortly after we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► published our episode last week where I basically said this is no bug this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► deliberate they are you know jokes about this right afterwards like a half a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► afterwards they posted a thing on on Facebook somebody's getting one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► things saying this was indeed a bug here's the bug and there was a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► bugs so they are clearly it was a bug I honestly able to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► John do you know all I did was read the press release but last week when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► were like they're doing this on purpose because they're terrible people and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► on and so forth that didn't really push push back that much on it but I find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► entirely plausible this could have been the bug and the corroborating evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► that I use other than my general attempt to have faith in humanity and belief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► that engineers wouldn't do something like this unless someone made them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► that some people have said now they mention that I've seen that like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► if I have watched a video on Facebook that sucks my battery but I have used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► Facebook but not watch the video it doesn't suck my battery so there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► vague anecdotal evidence that makes me think that their exploration sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► plausible but I guess that realistically speaking of the reason I was struggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► last week why would they even do this what is the advantage to Facebook it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► just seemed like a bug to me so I am willing to believe that this was a bug I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► do not think that Facebook is actively evil unless there's some really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► reason to be actively and I can't really think of a super good reason to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► their website everyone's battery down I came up with a few I'm also willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► believe that is still could have been intentional but I was never as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► sure about it as you are and given his explanation I'm going to get facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► the benefit of the doubt say they just had a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► I don't know why I see this could be both ways as I do think they're fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► evil but you know who was it was it you that said you know never achieve what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► the line never attribute to malice what could easily be explained by stupidity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► John event that I find that I would have caused directly benefit you that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► the person reminded me of it but speaking of John we have important John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► related news the long national nightmare is over John can you update us on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► Star Wars tickets and shortly after the show last week when I was in the midst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► of struggling to get stars tickets and being sad about the fact that my life it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► accidentally purchased three tickets no fear just as all cured now I have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► rid of my three tickets all my sorrows tickets are now 2d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► Baltimore also reserved seating maybe one side of the visiting us to have yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► I'm going to see it multiple times the tickets already bought for the multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► times I'm going to see it with various groups of people so fear not I will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► be watching it in 3d I'm actually watching 3d after I've seen it a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► times and and 2d assuming I like it and I wanna see it like a fourth or fifth or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► sixth time maybe I will try to find out our 2nd sponsor today is mail route that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1909">TS</a>]
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00:32:05 ◼ ► point your MX records for your mail server at Miller out they forward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► email cleaned on to your server and so what you can do if you run your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► server which honest I don't recommend if you can help it if you run your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► email server you put this in mind that if you use a service that just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► standard a service like fast mail you can you can put in front of that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► point your domain name it and then it just hurts filtering spam for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► the spam filtering is so good I have never seen as painful during this good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► you know a lot of people have said gmail has the best mental during end and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► I heard from g-ma people who tried this and they say oh actually is better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► I'm I W gmail but I can I can tell you that anything I've tried before mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► route including a built-in fast no spin control and everything I've never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► with its just regular default out of the box settings it is so good I see almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► zero span it is very rare to see a band that message come through it is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► extremely rare to have non span get caught in the spam folder and when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► does they keep kind of a list called the quarantine of mail that they think might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► be span but there are a hundred percent sure and then every few days the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/1992">TS</a>]
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00:33:34 ◼ ► have an API and all sorts of enterprise features that I have no idea where do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► these things mean because thank god I've never had to run email server but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2017">TS</a>]
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00:33:58 ◼ ► rapper sponsoring our show once again so Apple had their quarterly earnings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► this was the fourth quarters I correct who knows whatever it was a quarter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► their quarterly earnings and I think most of it was as expected iPads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► down fairly significantly sorry federico Mac syrup which was slightly surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► but there are few things that somebody who did their homework whose name is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► Casey put Michelle know timothy was John who shouldn't be doing homework somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► has to write China iPhone sales are up two hundred twenty percent I don't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► that terribly surprising but that's a lot to keep in mind I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► because they didn't launch the six in the same quarter in China last year so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► this year they did not see success in China at the beginning of the quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► something like that so it is an all just like a while Apple thing but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► that they're they're getting better with simultaneous launches nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► nothing but anyway China as everyone says is super important Apple AAPL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► becoming increasingly important and they're going fast there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► there's a lot of enterprise related things that I thought we could spend at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► least an hour talking about John I'm sure market won't mind not at all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► your evil well played sir there are 30,000 max inside of IBM adding almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► 2000 a week and IBM is claiming that it saves them two hundred and seventy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► dollars per machine versus a Windows computer due to lower support costs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► better residual values that's pretty cool stuff like that residual value as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► factor which I wouldn't have thought of because I'm not thinking like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► corporate being counter but as most of Mac owners know max do hold their value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► better than old copy PCs for whatever reason just try to buy a used Mac Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► for example and that is a factor in businesses account for them and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► fact that three years after you buy it hasn't lost as much of its value is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► Dell is good to support things like I should send these back in time to the 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► year old version that means they someday IBM will publish something saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► having max max in the in the cooperation is better because they require less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► support and it's just it just boggles my mind that is actually still true and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► knows how their partner that Apple it's you know obviously they're going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► that it's like IBM saying the TrackPoint is awesome right yet to take all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► with a grain of salt but that was the old story which is like a Mac vs PC days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► I yeah but Max B more B may be more expensive but if you buy a Mac your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► support costs will be lower because they're not as crappy as Windows PCs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► you'd like to think that but computer is a computer and a native of these stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► from the Pro Mac people saying I we bought max on our support must have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► down you know this is just a story two stories evergreen like at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► about people everywhere like what everyone agrees that Windows is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► the same as I was 10 interim like modern computers don't have all those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► things used to have like you know IRQ conflicts in DLL how and all that's gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► now everything's all plug and play and they should be about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► macsai problems to its like it's all washington who cares anyway because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► we're all looking at mobile who cares what the hell is going on in Windows a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► nice tan and then here is IBM you know I believe they actually are saving money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► not baby because Macs are easier to manage or because that Mac users being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► less help but it's like sup selecting anyone who may be interested enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► to demand a Mac is inaccurate or knows how to use it needs less support that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► got to be in there somewhere but I'm also willing to believe that I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► have been willing to please you know I think it's the truth that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► there's a less variety of hardware and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► your support costs can be lower than just a few variables like to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► that used to be easy to use like mattresses das or whatever but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► bottom line today i think is there aren't that many Macs in the world in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► there are tons of different weird PCs and Windows has to account for all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► them and Apollonius count for the max the did itself is made it so good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► IBM and it's a crazy world where iBM is buying 2009 max 2000 max per week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► has three thousand already that's weird I mean as I think I mentioned several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► times in the past I'm a child of a almost lifelong IBM her and I mean I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► never that big into the IBM vs Mac debate I mean I was to some extent back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► in the day and I clearly was on the side of IBM but it's this is weird it's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► weird like my entire childhood was defined by ThinkPads and to see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► basically abandoning their own product which yes I know isn't over and has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► for a few years but you know abandoning that thing that they came up with two to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► go towards Apple Macs that's just me and that's weird and to quickly address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► Gareth in the chatroom I was not forced to use I was too I chose to you I was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► use it was to water it was magical share it wants it was unbelievably good hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► and CD was a gift that was totally make so anyway so speaking of IBM in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► enterprise apple says that they have earned twenty five billion dollars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► annual revenue in last 12 months from the enterprise which is apparently a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► little over 10 percent of the total revenue for Apple and it's up forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► percent year over year my goodness yeah for a company that is interested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► enterprise that IBM partnership as seems to be working as intended it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► Apple's iPhone deal with this crap but they're glad to partner with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► who will do but the groundwork and just make them the money and you know ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► percent of your business shows that Apple stores not an enterprise companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► like Oracle ASAP or something is really Microsoft that matter but forty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► year over year is the growth of their their enterprise is like I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► what has happened unrelated to the enterprise other than the IBM deal not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► like Apple has suddenly rededicated its entire product efforts on the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► they're still do with it always done to support the enterprise but I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► IBM partnership is hoping he'll just just sales of Mexico IBM itself alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► forget about IBM helping other people to buy Macs and recommending them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► supporting them with all their need iPad apps and stuff like that so thumbs up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► seemed like a good idea at the time and still seems like a good idea because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► still do not see any area where like Microsoft and IBM's partnership where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► iBM is cleverly maneuvering to step out on the back just seems like when so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► I agree and finally let's make Federico said the iPad is it really like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► we all knew the iPad was you know if you look at the grass I forget things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► Jason's now six colleagues think we should add that to the show notes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► get aggressive like the sales of the different products and their different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► lines there's the lines for the phone with just one section of the graph and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► has its own slope and actually kicks up in recent years and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► sections for the Mac and iPad and iPad curves look like their siblings like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► their way down here that I into lower the kind of sad little droopy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► they're they're going up there not really going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► much maybe the iPad a little bit but they're they're reasonable but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► iPhone is in a different categories if you take the iPhone out of the equation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► and look like a blanket but it demonstrated his thing earlier and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► at just the curb of desktops laptops and tablets if you visualize it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► particular way as he is done here what it looks like is that laptops are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► replaced by tablets so the laptop sales are dipping little bit and the tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► are continuing the curfew between gotta find pretty convincing and it may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► that like it doesn't change the reality that the iPad is not going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► next iPhone we all know that it could just be you know and in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► that Apple wants to introduce proxy cannot cannibalize its own products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► the iPad and especially the larger the iPads are the future cannibalize of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► desktop and laptop computers and not going to cannibalize the phone at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► because thats untouchable it seems reasonable how you view things could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► misleading but it really is great and I go totally I see exactly how it's gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► but you could visualize the same day different but I like I get the chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► down there but I like the ones graphed it showed how the lines or separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► the graph that shows you know it's not big growth like the max and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► like the growth of that sector of the market is small and Apple is growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► slightly and most other companies selling desktops laptops are contracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► slightly so it's all just off as a kind of like I wouldn't call it a hobby yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► but it's it's a lot of money because everything to us a lot of money but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► iPhone is just so ridiculous now that you don't have to like helps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► separating calls let's talk about the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► yes so in summary Apple has more money than your didi of choice and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► stored away in various bank accounts and things are going well so I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► change changed hyun quite a bit and talk about what we call this follow out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► think so I'm all confused now which is different than follow up on the topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► have been fallout is the end these variations of follow-up are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► officially sanctioned not you know like it was it like for iPhone and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► need to make an official stamp of approval program for variations on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► are not desirable likes my goodness that's fantastic so this one officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► sanctioned or unofficially and unsanctioned follow out is with regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► to the podcast upgrade with her friends Mike Hurley and Jason Snell and Mike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► Jason were talking about on this week's episode what to do with regards to large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► long-term on premise storage and Mike it said you know offered a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► talk about whether or not having an Asus worthwhile and then if you do get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► nasty is heard you know half of his friends and say oh you should absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► without a shadow of a doubt get a Drobo and then he's heard the other half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► his friends say you should absolutely without a shadow of a doubt get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► Synology and he wasn't sure what to do he doesn't really keen on the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► network-attached storage to begin with the question is what do you do not do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► network attached to do something more physically attached my god what do i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► you know says Mike and I know we've talked about this a lot in the past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► it's been a long time since we've talked about this Marcos been almost burned by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► some nice cozy software at least 34 times in the last year so I thought we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► at least briefly revisit this in kind of talk about what we recommend what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► thoughts our market you wanna come kick this off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► I mean so we all acknowledge he was graceful enough to give us all Synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► units back two years ago was awhile ago now so we all have the same one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► the eighteen thirteen plus so so we all have the same giant eight days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► ecology and is like this it's not it's no longer their current model but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► time they gave it to us it was a very high end model and as far as I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► we've all had great stories of them you know we've all had great success with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► them they've been proven to be very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► the problem with with nasa's though from me is complexity and back up those those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► nasa's offer a whole bunch of features because they are just like little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► computers really running specialized usually Linux's and there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► lot they can do you can have them like you know serve Plex sometimes maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► depending on your transcoding needs like a sieve already talked about you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► have them like download BitTorrent stuff for you can have the host Cloud Files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► for you when you're out there's all sorts of you can do with an ass I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► none of it but I just do not use those features at all all I really use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► is archival storage just long-term both file storage things I don't usually need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► to access even that is all I use it for and so all those features are wasted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► me I think and I think that's what most people really need I don't think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► people really need to be managing this whole other many specialized server in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► their house I think what they really just wanted more space for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► computers you know I think that's that's the main the main goal here and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► great because when you're gonna move to something like an ass or even a Drobo I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► you you gain the ability to use 3.5 inch hard drives where you can basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► spend nothing and get many terabytes of space it is crazy how cheap storage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► compared to our world of modern at least the decent computers that have SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► storage you know where fretting over whether to go with the 512 the terabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► meanwhile you can get a for Tara by desktop drive for 100 bucks now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► dried the desktop charger so cheap now and they aren't that fast compared as DS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► but it doesn't matter what you doin archival storage so an ass is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► way to get a whole bunch of archival storage somewhere in your house and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► you want like me if you want to avoid noise at your computer external drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► don't really help there but you can put an ass anywhere in your house or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► run a wire so that gives you a lot of options there for you no noise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► location and everything like that so there are a lot of benefit analysis but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► the complexity of managing this like little serving your house has always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► bothered me a little bit and also the question of backups my preferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► playback of his back please I should disclose they sponsor bitumen times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► although I was using them before the sponsor and I like that place a lot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► have tried CrashPlan before and I've had nothing but terrible luck with it I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► I tried today I tried running CrashPlan on a Mac trying to back up this analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► I've tried running the actual client that can run directly on the Synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► after learning that I've tried so I've tried crash man I think at least three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► times over the last few years and every time it fails it just slows down to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► crawl eventually fails and people point to various like Java heap limits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► something that I've tried so many different things that people said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► just change the configuration setting in this file whenever I've tried so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► different things and it just fails every time it seemed they just can't keep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► with a many terabyte back up with tons of files so I have had terrible crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► man but crash man is the only one that will back up a network drive or will run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► directly on the Synology whereas Backblaze will only backup locally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► attached things from your Mac or PC so what I do now my Synology in the closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► to the discs that uses for Time Machine it to use of those normally as it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► native file system all the other ones it made its serving a giant ice cozy volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► is that is then mounted on my Mac Mini server using a terrible iSCSI initiator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► isn't one that the Mac OS 10 I use the shadow one but the the global samba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► worst from you was less reliable so they're both terrible and is like $200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► right there is more money down the drain there and it so I use giant ice volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► on the Synology with its crazy rate set up now on natural nice cozy on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► Mini as a local disk that fools back plays into thinking its local because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► it's nice cozy and so then backed ways back it up and it's formatted with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► service plus because it kind of has to be for that to work very well so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► big complex set up when really I think I would be perfectly fine these days like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► I don't need 10 terabytes of stuff I think I'll be fine these days honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► just getting rid of it at some point and just getting a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► either either two terabyte laptop drives in little USB enclosures little family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► and losers and just tolerating will be implemented noise they make or getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► one terabyte SSDs and putting them in little USB enclosures 2012 is now $300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► and that's only going down over time so like I wouldn't need that many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► you know I don't know it drives me nuts how complex my current setup is and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► only I'm only not changing it right now because it is currently working but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► soon as I need changing about this dump it entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► the entire value of an ass is lost on me and I don't need this giant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► this giant box making all this noise in my closet you guys feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► better at it than I am well let me just before I talk about myself if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► to do it all over again what do you think he would do you would do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► physically connected or you would just how would you handle that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► and a good nasa's is you know often near thousand dollars sometimes more if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► need a favor for the same price or less I think I would probably just do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3054">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► said just like you get like three or four one terabyte as DS try to find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► enclosure that could that can run family and can hold all of them probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► doesn't exist I have a ticket if hasn't her computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► she's a similar kind of set up like this and with the OWC Thunder Bay many for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► something that it's the two tries and that one does not run families I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► mentioned in previous I replace the fan in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► require one but it is still has noticeable fan noise and the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► is not because the disparate happen because it has this Thunderbolt chip on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► it that this controller chip that runs incredibly hot to the touch if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► then it and there's no heatsink just a bare chip and it just runs insanely hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► I have no idea why they even when the driver idle anyway so what I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► now is probably by external drives and even even if I spent the money to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► little SSDs so they would be totally silent that would probably be cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► than an ass and it wouldn't be nearly as much space but I would argue I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► don't need that much space because my nasa's literally had 10 terabytes free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► for the for the for the last few I he'll do I i totally sympathize with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► you're saying but I don't have the same complaints you do as you expected I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► of course the same Dec 1813 + util what I can tell with Synology model names the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► eighth in 1813 means its eighth day and 13 means to the 2013 model so the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► version of what we have is a TES 1815 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► that's why they skipped the 14 yeah I didn't realize that was a thing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► somebody pointed that out on Twitter which I remember who it was and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► like whoa mind blown had no idea why so that is 1815 plus the modern version but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► as Marcus said it was calm it was comps not only the box but all the drives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► it we have 83 gig 3 termite excuse me hard drives in these I love this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► it has its own I'm not call it operating system that's a misnomer it has its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► web interface lets use that it has its own web interface as many nasa steel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► it lets you do all sorts of things on it I use mine is a VPN server all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► particularly lately since I've been working at a clients office and infirm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► my Mac I like to be on a VPN and will be on my own it has BitTorrent client if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► that's your thing it has a newsgroup clients if that's your thing it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► really great file sharing so if you have a stupidly large file that you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► center somebody and maybe you don't want to use what's the Apple thing that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► came out last year the Apple watch the funny thing where they led that lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► send huge files iCloud sharing or something no no that's not right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► it's actually work I've never actually seen it i've never trying mailbag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► I'm use it that wasn't this year that was my last review at that time so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► must have been in Yosemite but yeah I'm used to it it's a nice weight and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► if you use them obviously alright think that the the web interface you can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► an attachment without regard to how big the attachment is because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► automatically uploads a tag clouds everybody does something like Cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► Apple one of those things does but automatically in with no ads in for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► it's something drop as per the chat room perhaps mail drop in any case so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► don't drop you can you can use your Synology to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► and none of these things are unique to the Synology over also be a Plex server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► although my model the eighteen thirteen + did not have a strong CPU for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► live transcoding and we talked about this in the past month ago on about its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► best if they didn't work well for me but what does work well for me is having my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► personal Mac which is effectively a desktop server even though it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► a 15 inch high res antiglare that's the Plex server in it and I just have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► look at the Synology to get all its media and so it just it's a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► having a server in the house if you're at all geeky aid network attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► storage does not need to be that server it you would probably perhaps be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► off with a Mac Mini if you can afford to have such a thing or if you have saved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► five Cape Breton iMac and you just wanna leave it on constantly that would also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► probably work just as well if not better but for me I just really like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► some sort of box it's kind of a server that I can offload those those weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► tasks like if I do you want to download a torrent of some legal software or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► some open the free movie or what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► yeah I can I can offload out onto the Synology if I want to share files with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► friends or family makes it very easy and the other thing that I love more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► anything else is that because I have six of the eight drives in psychology hybrid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► raid which is one drive redundancy so one of these drives can explode now be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► ok which is insanely slow is it I don't notice it like any of them agreed 5 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► kind of things I mean rates to rate five is also very slow because I believe Mr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► Right every block to every disk so very someone writes an OK on Reid's nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► uses raid 5 performance and then so there's no you have here is very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► to what people know drove us to do will talk about those I guess so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► which is basically you have like a kind of software managed volume we're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► many just the whole file system for you kind of have to to to resize itself so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► that way you can use an array of discs of different sizes and then if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► actually expand the volume by replacing discs wanted to time so it's a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► expanding needs over time but you do pay a penalty in performance for sure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► some with some of them both as a question of liability driven particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► has had a pretty spotty reliability history which is why I've never venture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► into the area myself because if you ask her about owners many of the ones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► talk to have Japan find it had no problems whatsoever it's been rocks off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► of them however you will hear a lot of people telling you all their horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► stories interpose and so it just never end and the reviews coming back this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► if you look on like Amazon ever free tech sites like it really does seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► they have a spotty history of liability and that's why I I would not I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► think I want to try one but I I don't know you know you never say never in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► this business so nicely to to wrap it up I I love having some sort of server like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► being on the network in the house and I really love my Synology and and yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► got this for free if I were to PEP 840 would have been over $1,000 of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► drives in it which is absurdly expensive but they have other versions I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► they have any age fifteen 15 this year which would be a five-day version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► there's there's two to Bay versions so whatever you think is right for you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► that if you can be a drug or psychology but just having effectively infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► storage is a life changer because I used to have to worry about you know oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► as an example for all these episodes of let's call it highest gear from these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► episodes of that show you how do I burn them to DVDs so I can get them off my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► max I can have all that space back oh I don't ever want to download the 1080 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► versions because I don't want to take up that much space now don't care whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► it is I'll take it I got plenty of room and that is magical so I've gone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► marcus Stone on John what's your take on all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► getting back to the buckets off with Mike and his questions at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► despite what all of us have said what you just said I'm going to say and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3536">TS</a>]
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01:01:16 ◼ ► buy an external hard drive and had attached to the USB as a firewire drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► back to Nazca to Time Machine over the network of the time capsules leggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► Canada time machine to a third party thing like a Synology like it is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► backups in general are still way way to art and lots of people think like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► is this will be solved when everything is network back up well in this country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► anyway if we are all waiting around for everyone to get network connections fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► enough to back up the the amount of data that they produce and store on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► computers where we're all gonna be dead but like other countries may have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► network infrastructure outlooks for the next fifty to a hundred years the united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► states does not have very good outlook so I think it's it's kind of a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► that this is still not to solve problems and Apple for the most part has fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3723">TS</a>]
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01:02:12 ◼ ► seemed like the ideal solution maybe when they get time capsule and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► rededicate themselves to time capsule with their no assets coming out any day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3737">TS</a>]
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01:02:52 ◼ ► don't know what it is because we know what your needs are and in general this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3772">TS</a>]
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01:03:25 ◼ ► call their backup drive but it actually isn't the back of it is just more space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► message says time machine is not backed up in 10 days right oh yeah machine does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► at least tell you that a lot of people think they're running time machine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► they're not so an intrusive and they get the message I can imagine them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► dismissing and going on for itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3823">TS</a>]
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01:03:56 ◼ ► desperately looking for some way to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3836">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► to keep climbing up that stupid backup he'll like Time Machine great guns up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3840">TS</a>]
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01:04:07 ◼ ► for people to back up like even even with Time Machine I had to battle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► convince my relatives to buy an external hard drive try convincing someone had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► spend any amount of money to get a box with wires to connect the basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► computer their spot there like why why do I need this what it's like a TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/3859">TS</a>]
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01:07:17 ◼ ► files or something with a lot of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► every time you run the backup the first job as do is say since the last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► backup which of these four million files have either been added deleted or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4043">TS</a>]
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01:07:52 ◼ ► the official mechanisms require the i/o to that drive to go through the kernel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4072">TS</a>]
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01:09:10 ◼ ► added support for network drives it would be crappier than that closes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4150">TS</a>]
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01:09:24 ◼ ► recently they announced that there's a new version of crossfire coming up it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4164">TS</a>]
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01:22:35 ◼ ► matter how much you can play it is that it's not it isn't based on the open web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4955">TS</a>]
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01:22:43 ◼ ► out it probably won't be there you know it we'll see what happens over time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4963">TS</a>]
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01:22:56 ◼ ► stat system now Google is saying they will offer publisher stats like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4976">TS</a>]
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01:23:04 ◼ ► care about stats which is anybody who serves ads they're ready to know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► are to have their own systems for that so this morning agree with that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► be a separate thing you have to opt into and then go and check and then manually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► like adding to your stats system somehow or make some kind of API thing if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► is an even is an API but he usually isn't from our Google services because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/4999">TS</a>]
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01:23:40 ◼ ► that so that that part is a little odd and uncomfortable for podcasters but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5020">TS</a>]
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01:23:48 ◼ ► into the middle of our show so that's the deal for podcasters basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► they're they're doing it to go away where they know best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5032">TS</a>]
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01:24:01 ◼ ► they know any no that's that's the way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► the other aspect that is very ghoulish but not evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► use the old thing is that once they have your files and your data they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► almost undoubtedly serve them up faster than the random into podcasters gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► and they will also probably everyone is assuming I don't see why they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► run them through something that translates the text into speech provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► full text search for them like to try and obviously had underscored David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► Smith for finding things maybe there won't be on day one maybe it'll be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5070">TS</a>]
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01:24:40 ◼ ► they're getting data by simply reading your rss feed employing all those files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► they are transcoding on their processing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► I'm sure they they will if they have any kind of algorithms to do anything useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► related to search to audio files I'm sure they do they're gonna do that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► podcasts and that you know you are you talking about it from the perspective of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► a publisher but from the perspective of a user if like they did with Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► photos if Google can provide something that appears magical like you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► type the word teacup as a bunch of pictures of tea cups are you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► type some words and find podcast with those things were spoken using the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► of Google that is an attractive feature to users because there is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► equipment than any of the other podcasts including probably sitter because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► imagine they don't have a data analysis tools that Google has their disposal so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► the potential upside to Google's own little dude google reader reader style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► not gonna call it a walled garden that cold chain link fence garden is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► they can provide features to users by sucking in all this data that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► people who are less interested in podcast because Apple seems to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► they're right there whenever there or just don't have the tech likes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► those companies can't do that so there is potential user upside of this service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5148">TS</a>]
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01:25:59 ◼ ► to Google Play to be the equivalent of iTunes shows the type that Apple's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► of Miley disinterested in podcast is good I like that I like it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► keeps it keeps it open it keeps podcast is a thing that anyone can have mine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5168">TS</a>]
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01:26:16 ◼ ► objectionable material will will put it up in our directory and you host the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► files and go ahead you know I like that I get better than Google Reader scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► where eventually the only way anyone ever listens to podcast this Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► thing we are forced to do the school thing and have ads inserted between our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► show we are forced to have our show transcoded had no control over we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► forced to end up numbers in two different locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► that's not long term that's not good for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► short-term we're all saying as producers this is doesn't we don't like it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5202">TS</a>]
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01:27:06 ◼ ► simulate the whole like you know what if this becomes so big that we all have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► play ball that is the biggest risk for publishers ate it does seem on the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► of it like we we've we kind of decided early on that we didn't want to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5234">TS</a>]
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01:27:26 ◼ ► promote stitcher on the show that's one of the reasons why you hear so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5246">TS</a>]
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01:27:35 ◼ ► not agree to that so we didn't do it the only reason we could say no to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5255">TS</a>]
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01:28:14 ◼ ► very iOS happy and that might be the case for quite some time and you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5294">TS</a>]
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01:28:32 ◼ ► upscale younger smarter richer more liberal and those are all I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► demographics are more likely to have iPhones and Android devices also a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5319">TS</a>]
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01:29:05 ◼ ► to be like a massive proportion of the of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5345">TS</a>]
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01:29:24 ◼ ► reach the people who watch videos he basically had to publish videos on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5364">TS</a>]
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01:29:43 ◼ ► grand scheme of things they're trying to boost Google Play Music make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5383">TS</a>]
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01:30:11 ◼ ► week if not daily and I don't recall having even stumbled onto a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► section Spotify now doesn't mean it's not there I just haven't noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5414">TS</a>]
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01:30:34 ◼ ► podcasts or do understand them because they understand like a TV show you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5434">TS</a>]
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01:30:41 ◼ ► different strokes and was fined as there was no continuity but podcast most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► popular certainly something like cereal discontinuity got started episode 12 go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► through in order you can't just be like ok play podcast you are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► interleaving seventeen different shows that the random episodes will make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► sense or even just like in leaving podcast with music makes no sense also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► like a three-minute song and then the to our podcast exactly like it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► make sense so I'm hoping to be smart about it than that but upon first glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5463">TS</a>]
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01:31:16 ◼ ► can tell by by what Steve Jobs thought of third-party software you can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► tell the App Store was designed as a marketplace for software by a CEO who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► really didn't like something that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► the holding with like calling them apps it's kind it's kind of trivialize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► it's it's kind of like you know talking down to it in a way that's my take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► apps you think it's talking down I think it was branding and it was brilliant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► it was trying to make application software something simple that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5502">TS</a>]
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01:31:49 ◼ ► that is repurposed all the software and services and everything they had related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► to the iTunes store selling music and just said dolled up a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► blogs a store selling out that part is definitely true but I don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5516">TS</a>]
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01:32:48 ◼ ► the managers or something i some kind of manager title of this team talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5568">TS</a>]
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01:32:57 ◼ ► all the really painfully scripted talking points that the guy just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5577">TS</a>]
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01:33:26 ◼ ► have podcasts in there but it just seems like at least at least the way they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► talking about enrollment so far it again this could all be wrong when it launches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5611">TS</a>]
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01:34:01 ◼ ► it's like well you know percentage wise many more people listen to music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► podcast we are to have this music thing I can't integrate that both audio yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5645">TS</a>]
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01:34:14 ◼ ► enjoy pi guess what is the reason that this project is seeing the light of day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5654">TS</a>]
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01:34:24 ◼ ► they take this thing that's most music streaming service and indirect podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► in a way that is actually very like Pakistan sure they're gonna try to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5668">TS</a>]
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01:34:39 ◼ ► podcast just a nice to have their never interested enough in it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5679">TS</a>]
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01:34:52 ◼ ► just slowly swallowed up everything and they but they've never really did have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5692">TS</a>]
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01:35:07 ◼ ► actually be a big deal because Google corporate is never like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5707">TS</a>]
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01:35:20 ◼ ► sign music seems much bigger than podcast at this point I think they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► probably always be the case I'm hoping that podcast will always be weird enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5723">TS</a>]
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01:35:33 ◼ ► even though it's also massively popular but in the grand scheme of things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5733">TS</a>]
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01:36:02 ◼ ► who knows but for the most part the downside seems limited to have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSXlrUM/5762">TS</a>]
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