484: The Rickies (January 2024)

0:00:00(upbeat music)

0:00:02Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 484.

0:00:11It's made possible this week by Notion and ShipStation.

0:00:15My name is Steven Hackett and I have the pleasure

0:00:17of being joined by Mr. Mike Hurley.

0:00:20Hello, and I have the pleasure of being joined

0:00:22by Federico Vittucci, ciao Federico.

0:00:24Hello, I'm back.

0:00:26We're back together again.

0:00:27Back together after three months, we are back together.

0:00:30(laughing)

0:00:32You guys remember September?

0:00:34That was the last time we did a show together.

0:00:37So today we have some very important work.

0:00:39We will be grading our annual picks for 2023

0:00:43and then we'll be making annual picks for 2024.

0:00:47But first we have some very brief follow-up.

0:00:51Mike, do you wanna take us through this?

0:00:53Yeah, it's just worth mentioning

0:00:55that we have details for the Vision Pro now.

0:00:57I figure everybody listening to the show probably knows this.

0:01:00We'll probably get into this more over the coming weeks

0:01:03as we hurtle towards pre-orders next Friday

0:01:07and then it's on sale in Apple stores on February 2nd.

0:01:12So this kinda came out of nowhere

0:01:15in the way that it happened, right?

0:01:16Like I think we were all expecting something,

0:01:20but this was a bit of a surprise

0:01:22in the way that it went down.

0:01:25And there's not really any more big information

0:01:27except we know that there are storage tiers

0:01:30and it starts at 256 gigabytes for $3,500.

0:01:34We have that to look forward to.

0:01:38Yeah.

0:01:39I look forward to that configurator.

0:01:41Well, we'll be talking a lot more about that I'm sure

0:01:44in the near future.

0:01:45And then there's something in here that says

0:01:47Mike has something that needs to be addressed.

0:01:48What?

0:01:49Welcome back to the quizzes.

0:01:51We don't have time for this.

0:01:52Where I'm my early quiz,

0:01:53I connected co-hosts randomly and by surprise

0:01:57on a variety of varying subjects.

0:01:59There are two things.

0:02:01One is a very quick game,

0:02:02but the reason we're doing that quick game

0:02:04is maybe you forgot, like I forgot

0:02:07that we reset the points every year.

0:02:08Oh yeah.

0:02:09We're in a new year.

0:02:10Oh yeah.

0:02:11So we have to reset the points.

0:02:14The 2023 champion was Steven Hackett.

0:02:17Boom.

0:02:18With a total of 2,020 points.

0:02:21Federico was at 2000 points.

0:02:23There was a 20 point difference

0:02:25that decided the 2023 champion.

0:02:28That has made Steven a two time champion in the quizzes.

0:02:32However, this time it was only a 20 point difference

0:02:35compared to 2022 where there was a 2000 point difference.

0:02:39So Federico, you've made some significant gains.

0:02:42Yeah, ready for 2024 Steven.

0:02:43And I look forward to some domination in 2024,

0:02:47but we're going to be playing the second round

0:02:50of who's Ricky was it anyway.

0:02:53I have a selection of Ricky's for you.

0:02:56The annual Ricky's of 2021 and the keynote Ricky's of 2020.

0:03:00I have picked three picks from each year.

0:03:05So we will do them.

0:03:06We'll do like, we'll do year one and year two.

0:03:09I will read a Ricky to you.

0:03:11You just have to guess which one of the three of us

0:03:13picked it.

0:03:14If you get all three correct from each year,

0:03:17you get extra points.

0:03:18It's 100 points for every correct answer

0:03:21and a bonus 100 points if you get all three correct per year.

0:03:26So we will start with the three examples

0:03:29from the 2021 annual Ricky's.

0:03:32Federico, you will get the first answer.

0:03:35Okay.

0:03:36As I'm going to give you a hand.

0:03:38And the first one is Federico, who said,

0:03:42a Mac gets a touch, a Mac gets a screen

0:03:46that supports touch and or Apple pencil input.

0:03:50Whose pick was that?

0:03:51- 2021.

0:03:55- 2021 annual Ricky's.

0:03:57- Mike said it.

0:04:00- Okay.

0:04:01Steven, who said that?

0:04:02- I'm gonna say Federico said it.

0:04:04- Steven gets a hundred points.

0:04:06- I said it?

0:04:07- It was indeed Federico that said that.

0:04:08- Yeah. - Okay.

0:04:10Okay.

0:04:11- Pick number two.

0:04:12Let me go back to Federico.

0:04:13- We're gonna get the first pick on all of these today.

0:04:16No in-person WWDC 2021.

0:04:21Whose pick was that?

0:04:22- Mike said it.

0:04:25- Okay.

0:04:27Steven, whose pick was that?

0:04:28- I said it.

0:04:29- That is enough 100 points.

0:04:31- Oh my God.

0:04:32- Steven Hackett.

0:04:33- It's not off to a good start.

0:04:34- It's that early domination, you know?

0:04:36- Hey look, we got four more, right?

0:04:38Things can still turn around.

0:04:41Apple will release a new programming app for iPad.

0:04:45Federico, who said that?

0:04:46- I said it.

0:04:48- Okay, Steven, who said that?

0:04:49- Federico said it.

0:04:51- It was me.

0:04:52So neither of you get the points there.

0:04:53- Oh my God. Okay.

0:04:55- So we now move to the keynote for November, 2020.

0:04:59It's just like, I was looking through it.

0:05:01I was like, what was that one about?

0:05:02- That's, I know what it is.

0:05:04- Interesting.

0:05:06- Apple Silicon.

0:05:08- Was it?

0:05:09We'll find out.

0:05:10- First pick is Apple demos, iOS apps running on a Mac.

0:05:15Federico, who picked that?

0:05:17- I don't know.

0:05:19- One in three.

0:05:21- I'm just gonna stick with Mike.

0:05:25- Okay, Steven.

0:05:27- Federico.

0:05:28- That's 100 points for Federico.

0:05:32- Hey.

0:05:33- That's some points on the board, baby.

0:05:34- Nice.

0:05:35- It was me, I said that.

0:05:36Second pick is the first Apple Silicon chip

0:05:39is a variant of the A14 family.

0:05:42Federico, who said that?

0:05:43- Steven said it.

0:05:49- Okay.

0:05:50- Mike said it.

0:05:51- No points, it was Federico.

0:05:54- Okay.

0:05:55- Okay.

0:05:56- Final pick, a desktop Apple Silicon Mac is announced.

0:06:01Who said that Federico?

0:06:02- I'm gonna go with Mike said it.

0:06:09- Okay.

0:06:10- It was me after I had a dream about it, about the Mac mini.

0:06:14- Oh my gosh.

0:06:16- Steven is correct.

0:06:17So we finished the first round of the quizzes for the year.

0:06:20Federico has 100 points, Steven has 300 points.

0:06:24Thank you so much for listening

0:06:26and all participating in the quizzes.

0:06:29We'll be back again in the future.

0:06:35So now we are going to move into the grading

0:06:39of our 2023 picks.

0:06:41And that means we need to read the bill of Ricky's.

0:06:45I will start with the preamble and we'll go from there.

0:06:49The Ricky's is a game connected host play

0:06:53before Apple keynotes at the beginning of a new year,

0:06:56trying to predict future events.

0:06:58It's made up of three rounds.

0:07:00Each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick.

0:07:04There are two types of Ricky's, annual Ricky's

0:07:07and keynote Ricky's.

0:07:08We're playing the annual Ricky's today.

0:07:10The winner is named the annual chairman.

0:07:12This position is awarded every January.

0:07:15After the Ricky's the hosts then play a game

0:07:17called the flexies.

0:07:18These two games are separate, but related.

0:07:22Please stand for the reading of the rules.

0:07:25Correct regular picks are awarded one point.

0:07:34The language used for regular picks must be finalized

0:07:37and agreed upon during recording

0:07:39and no partial points may be awarded.

0:07:42Correct risky picks are worth two points,

0:07:44but wrong ones will cause a point to be deducted

0:07:46from that host total.

0:07:48Picks must have been approved as risky

0:07:50by the two other hosts before the start of the game.

0:07:53A pick cannot be named risky

0:07:54if it has been previously rumored by publications of record

0:07:58nine to five Mac or Mac rumors.

0:08:00We're going to come back to that for the 2024 games.

0:08:03So just hold your horses.

0:08:05Picks for the keynote Ricky's.

0:08:06- I will never hold my horses.

0:08:08- My horses will not be held.

0:08:10Picks is, picks, picks,

0:08:11picks made for the keynote Ricky's cannot be reused

0:08:16by the host who made them for the next keynote.

0:08:18The annual Ricky's have their own subset of rules.

0:08:21Of course, once a host chooses something as an annual pick

0:08:24they cannot reuse it in that calendar year.

0:08:28Additionally, picks may not be used

0:08:29in back to back annual Ricky's by the same host.

0:08:33All hosts are allowed to reuse picks

0:08:35previously made by others.

0:08:37Scoring is completed during recording

0:08:38and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.

0:08:41In the event of a tie, dice by Peacock

0:08:44must be used in relay FM mode to pick a winner.

0:08:47In case of a three-way tie,

0:08:48hosts all make their calls at the same time

0:08:50with flipping continuing until the winner is named.

0:08:53Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins

0:08:57in relation to the Ricky's.

0:08:59Coin flips by Jason and on other podcasts

0:09:03are technically allowed, but they're frowned upon

0:09:05and subject to public shaming.

0:09:07For keynote Ricky's, the scoring window starts,

0:09:09blah, blah, blah, we're not doing keynote Ricky's.

0:09:11The order is set by previous performance.

0:09:14The winner of the previous associated game goes first,

0:09:17the previous loser goes last.

0:09:19Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.

0:09:22And as a reminder, Mike is the current annual chairman.

0:09:26Federico is the current keynote chairman.

0:09:29Past results can be seen at rickys.co and rickys.net.

0:09:32These sites also have pages

0:09:34about managing your own scorekeeping at home.

0:09:37You may be seated.

0:09:38- It's been a good year of my reign.

0:09:42I'm happy to put it on the line today

0:09:45and succeed and continue.

0:09:47- Nah.

0:09:48- Four more years.

0:09:49- Nah, four more years.

0:09:51- Four more years, yep.

0:09:53That's what I'm going for.

0:09:55Four more years, new term, four more years.

0:09:57- All right, well, let's start with round one

0:10:01and Mike you're up.

0:10:02- And I will just before we start,

0:10:04'cause people I think get confused,

0:10:06why do we make all that noise?

0:10:07We call it harmonizing.

0:10:09And it's because Steven has a bell that he plays

0:10:11if we get things correct.

0:10:13And me and Federico can't hear it over Zoom

0:10:15'cause Zoom cuts it out.

0:10:17So to make sure we can hear it, we all hum

0:10:19and then we hear if the bell sounds.

0:10:21Round one, I suggested Apple releases a larger MacBook Air.

0:10:26(humming)

0:10:28I didn't hear the bell.

0:10:31- Was there a bell?

0:10:32- Did you bell?

0:10:33- Yeah, I hummed and belled.

0:10:34(bell ringing)

0:10:35- Can you just do it on your own please?

0:10:37See what happens.

0:10:38(bell ringing)

0:10:41- Nothing happens.

0:10:42- Nothing happened at all.

0:10:43- I rang it.

0:10:44I hummed and I rang.

0:10:45- You're not humming loud enough.

0:10:47Hum louder Steven.

0:10:48(humming)

0:10:51No, I can't hear the bell anymore.

0:10:53All right, bell is, we forget the bell,

0:10:55we forget the harmonizing, we all know it's correct or not.

0:10:57It's not working anymore.

0:10:59We, you've got the no bell filter on.

0:11:01- That mean, does that mean it's a no bell prize?

0:11:04- Oh my God.

0:11:07- You've been fired.

0:11:08(laughing)

0:11:09Jeroen please leave.

0:11:10Please leave the podcast.

0:11:12That's it.

0:11:13- Yeah, yeah, bigger, bigger MacBook Air.

0:11:17- Bigger MacBook Air.

0:11:19- Yeah, this very understated to be honest as a thing.

0:11:24I forget.

0:11:25- Yeah, I forget this exists.

0:11:26- I forget the 15 inch MacBook Air exists

0:11:29until people mention it.

0:11:31And then I remember.

0:11:32But like, I have no concept of it existing.

0:11:35- Does anybody have it?

0:11:37- I don't.

0:11:39- Like honestly, like is it one of the,

0:11:40to me the 15 inch MacBook Air

0:11:43is the equivalent of the iPhone 15 plus.

0:11:47- Yes.

0:11:47- It's that type of product.

0:11:49- No, it is.

0:11:50It's exactly that product, right?

0:11:52Like there are already products bigger than

0:11:56the 13 inch MacBook Air, right?

0:11:58There's two of them.

0:12:00And they are more desirable

0:12:03because they've got higher specs and features.

0:12:06People tend to go to that product.

0:12:08But now this one just exists in the lineup

0:12:10for people that purely want a bigger screen.

0:12:12- Yeah.

0:12:13- But don't want to spend all the money.

0:12:15So like it's a good addition to the lineup

0:12:17for that customer.

0:12:18But because of the existence of the MacBook Pros,

0:12:22it is at least by us, it just ignored.

0:12:25It's like a blind spot.

0:12:27- Yeah, it's overshadowed.

0:12:28- It's not a product that I would buy.

0:12:30- By people like us.

0:12:31- I want the MacBook Air because I want something portable.

0:12:35And the 15 inch MacBook Air is inherently not.

0:12:38- Exactly, exactly.

0:12:40- Yeah.

0:12:41- Yeah.

0:12:42Okay, so round one.

0:12:45My pick was Apple releases a new Mac mini,

0:12:48ungraded detail, same design, M2 inside, question mark?

0:12:52- Hmm.

0:12:53- Question mark.

0:12:54(bell dings)

0:12:55Wait, we decided to not do it

0:12:56because the bell doesn't work.

0:12:58- Sorry, sorry.

0:12:58- There's no point if the bell doesn't work.

0:13:01- Okay.

0:13:02- Well, there's a new Mac mini.

0:13:03- Yeah.

0:13:04- Is the ungraded detail correct?

0:13:06I don't remember.

0:13:08- It is.

0:13:09Same design, it has the M2 and the M2 Pro.

0:13:11So like, Federico even undershot a little bit.

0:13:15Good job.

0:13:16- Yeah, thank you, thank you.

0:13:17And you know, I still have my M1 Mac mini doing just fine

0:13:21as a home automation server.

0:13:23I don't think I'm gonna change it anytime soon.

0:13:25Maybe by the time the M4 Mac mini is out or something.

0:13:29But yeah, the M2 Mac mini was released last year.

0:13:31It's out, it's good, yeah.

0:13:33- I guess the only difference is

0:13:34it's only Sylvanelle, right?

0:13:35They don't have the black one.

0:13:38- Yeah, yeah, that was Intel only.

0:13:40There was never a M1 space grid.

0:13:42- Yeah, the M1 is also silver, yeah.

0:13:44Yeah, yeah.

0:13:45- Okay.

0:13:47- Yeah, all right.

0:13:49Round one, my pick.

0:13:51WWDC 2023 follows the same format as 2022

0:13:56with a small number of people invited in person.

0:14:00- Yes. - Yes.

0:14:02- No, no, it's okay. - I mean, I was there.

0:14:03There was a lot of people there.

0:14:05- But it's not 5,000 people.

0:14:07It's not a full conference.

0:14:09- Yeah.

0:14:10- Same format. - Okay.

0:14:11I agree the same format part.

0:14:13I just think, and you get the point, what I'm just saying.

0:14:16I don't think it's small anymore.

0:14:18I think it's still a pretty big to-do.

0:14:20It's just not what it was, right?

0:14:22- Yeah, and I think that's what I was getting at,

0:14:24but yeah, I get it,

0:14:26but I think that I could have been more specific probably.

0:14:29- Yeah, I'm fine with it, but yeah, it's not small.

0:14:33There's a lot of people,

0:14:33and it's only gonna keep increasing.

0:14:36A couple of weeks ago, I met with Jelly,

0:14:38the wonderful Jelly of GifRapt,

0:14:40and Jelly does a lot of wonderful work for us

0:14:42around the illustrations for the St. Jude campaign.

0:14:44He was in London, and we were hanging out,

0:14:46and we were talking about WWDC,

0:14:48'cause he lives in Australia,

0:14:49so it's a long way for him.

0:14:51I kind of suggested to him

0:14:53that I don't think "For the foreseeable future"

0:14:55is worth coming to WWDC,

0:14:58if you've gotta make that kind of trip.

0:15:00- Yeah.

0:15:01- Especially if you don't have a pass,

0:15:03which is, that feels completely pointless.

0:15:06But I do think, though, that it is going to grow,

0:15:12but we could be 10 years away from it being a scene again.

0:15:17- Yeah, yeah.

0:15:20It was also the first time the three of us

0:15:22have seen each other since the pandemic, right?

0:15:26- Yep. - Correct.

0:15:28- But we have still not attended a keynote together.

0:15:32- Yeah, I was invited to the keynote, but couldn't make it.

0:15:35I flew out the next morning, but yes.

0:15:38Maybe-- - So you two have,

0:15:41me and Federico have, me and Steven have never.

0:15:44- Right.

0:15:44- It's the way that that's gone so far.

0:15:48- This is our year, I think. - Who knows?

0:15:50I don't know, man, I don't wanna put that kind of--

0:15:52- You don't wanna put that energy out there?

0:15:54- No, I'm not putting that energy in.

0:15:55- No.

0:15:56- Well, at the end of round one, we're all tied up.

0:16:01- Woo! - Pretty good, huh?

0:16:02- Nice. - Yeah?

0:16:03- Round two, my first pick is an iPhone gets USB-C.

0:16:09- Not, just, and they all got it.

0:16:11They all got it. - Just one, yeah.

0:16:13How do we feel about USB-C?

0:16:17We like USB-C, we love USB-C, I think.

0:16:19- Yes, love it.

0:16:22I've met with a thing where I want to,

0:16:24I mentioned this on the show a week,

0:16:26I think last week where I won a project Hollywood

0:16:29where I wanna make my studio better for video,

0:16:32and I wanna get an iPhone for that.

0:16:33And I've definitely met with this thing of like,

0:16:36do I wanna just invest in a USB-C iPhone

0:16:39rather than a lightning iPhone?

0:16:41And I think the answer is probably yes,

0:16:44just because of what I wanted,

0:16:45'cause I want it to be for video

0:16:47that having USB-C is probably beneficial.

0:16:51- Yep. - But there is like,

0:16:52oh man, that's not gonna be the cheaper iPhone.

0:16:55I'm gonna try and get a refurb one, I think.

0:16:57- Yeah. - Like a iPhone 15.

0:16:59But I did think that it would at least mean

0:17:01I could not have to worry about

0:17:03getting decent storage size, right?

0:17:05'Cause I could just have it plugged into a Mac all the time

0:17:08and just offloading the video.

0:17:10- Mm-hmm. - Yeah.

0:17:11- Very good.

0:17:13All right, and in round two,

0:17:16I said there will not be an iPhone 15 mini.

0:17:20- Never again. - Yeah.

0:17:22There's an iPhone 15, an iPhone 15 Plus,

0:17:24there's no iPhone 15 mini.

0:17:26They don't make small phones anymore.

0:17:29So I know there's some of you out there

0:17:32who are missing this kind of product.

0:17:34- I don't, but there's some people out there

0:17:37who want a small phone.

0:17:39I'm sorry. - I hear there are

0:17:40some small Android phones, if you wanna--

0:17:41- You know? - Go get one of those.

0:17:43- Get an Apple Watch, you know?

0:17:45It's basically the same size. (laughing)

0:17:47- Get the humane pin.

0:17:48It's the smallest phone you can get.

0:17:50- Oh man. - Sure, yeah.

0:17:52- It's pretty small.

0:17:54It's also a phone. - It's pretty small.

0:17:56- I said no Intel Macs are left on sale

0:18:00as new at the end of 2023.

0:18:04This was something that, when I saw this in the document

0:18:06a couple of days ago, I had to go check,

0:18:08'cause it still felt like that could not be the case.

0:18:12You know what I mean?

0:18:13It's like, it would not surprise me

0:18:14if there was one of them just like a ghost,

0:18:16just like hanging around.

0:18:17But no, they did it, they did the thing.

0:18:19- They did it. - All gone.

0:18:20- Yeah, the Mac Pro was kind of the last one

0:18:23to make the move, and it did so

0:18:25in the most underwhelming way possible,

0:18:28but the Intel era is gone.

0:18:32- Yeah, definitely the ugly luckling of the transition.

0:18:35- Yeah, it is.

0:18:37That's unfortunate.

0:18:38- Is it though?

0:18:39- We don't have time to litigate that today.

0:18:43- It's idealistically unfortunate, but it's fine.

0:18:46- There you go, there you go.

0:18:48So at the end of round two.

0:18:51- We're still tied. - Still tied.

0:18:53- All tied up, baby.

0:18:54- All tied up.

0:18:56- As often these games go.

0:18:58- Yes, which we will talk about later on.

0:19:02- Yeah.

0:19:03- Let's move on to some risky picks.

0:19:06- My pick was for the year,

0:19:08Apple shows off their headset in March.

0:19:11They announced developer tours at WWDC.

0:19:13They show it off again in September.

0:19:15It ships to customers in October.

0:19:17- You couldn't have been more wrong.

0:19:20- There was a world in which I was right,

0:19:21and we all know it.

0:19:22- Sure, there's a timeline.

0:19:23There's a timeline in which this happened.

0:19:25- Yeah, there's a world in which I look like The Rock,

0:19:28but we don't live in that world.

0:19:30- Well, I got 25% of this pick correct.

0:19:33- Wait, which part?

0:19:34Developer tours at WWDC.

0:19:36- We will, but we, you know,

0:19:37like if we want to talk about how wrong, right,

0:19:40we can maybe, we'll see where we go later on

0:19:42throughout these picks,

0:19:43but I got 25% of my pick correct.

0:19:47- Yeah.

0:19:48- Yeah, and I can tell you preemptively

0:19:50that I got 0% of my pick correct.

0:19:52(laughing)

0:19:55- What is that pick Federico?

0:19:56- My pick was Apple will release its biggest iPad ever

0:20:01with a display of at least 16 inches.

0:20:05It won't be OLED.

0:20:06It'll have the front facing camera on the landscape side

0:20:09and two USB supports at least.

0:20:12It'll be called iPad Studio.

0:20:14- This is one of the biggest leaps anyone has taken

0:20:19'cause you just went so far.

0:20:20- Record scratch for the first time in 10 years.

0:20:26For the first time in 13 years, I'm sorry,

0:20:29there was no new iPad in 2023.

0:20:33Literally zero tablets from Apple.

0:20:36- This took them so much work to try and get this thing.

0:20:39They just couldn't do anything else

0:20:40and they just couldn't get it over the line, you know?

0:20:42- Can't do it.

0:20:43- Yeah, so none of this pick came true

0:20:48because there was no new iPads last year.

0:20:51- Yeah, so that would still be a sick iPad though.

0:20:54Can we just say?

0:20:55- It would totally be a sick iPad, yes.

0:20:58Yeah, but Steven, you wanna keep me company

0:21:03with some iPad, Ricky's?

0:21:06- Yeah, Apple releases an iPad Pro with a screen

0:21:09between 15.0 and 15.999 inches,

0:21:14which replaces the 11 inch model.

0:21:16- What I like about it,

0:21:18I don't remember exactly the conversation

0:21:21where that was put in, you know what I mean?

0:21:23Like 0.999, like I'm sure there was some kind of litigation.

0:21:28- You know that's our fault.

0:21:28You know that is our fault.

0:21:30- This is not a pure pick.

0:21:32- It's wrong.

0:21:34- You two were really on one with this iPad.

0:21:37- Oh yeah, big time, big time.

0:21:41I don't know why.

0:21:42- I don't know if I ever remember feeling

0:21:43like a 16 inch iPad was coming,

0:21:45like definitely within a year.

0:21:47- We were convinced that stage manager

0:21:49was made for bigger iPads, I think.

0:21:51- Yeah, that was probably it, right?

0:21:53I mean, copy them, there's gotta be a reason

0:21:57for them to have done this.

0:21:58Now, Steven, remind me, do we have in the rules

0:22:03the way that the flipping occurs now?

0:22:05- Yes, it's where we all pick.

0:22:08- We all pick until there's one person standing.

0:22:11- Yep. - Yep.

0:22:12'Cause that's where we are.

0:22:13We are all tied up, as they say.

0:22:15- Yet again.

0:22:16- Okay, we've all got a call, right?

0:22:19- We do.

0:22:20- Who's calling first?

0:22:22- Heads.

0:22:24- Wait, who needs to call it now?

0:22:26- All three of us.

0:22:27- We all have to call it.

0:22:29We're just in a standoff now as to who's going next.

0:22:32- I'm going tails.

0:22:34- All right, I'm gonna go heads.

0:22:36I didn't hear that, but I, hang on,

0:22:39what am I looking at right now?

0:22:41It's some weird coin.

0:22:43Oh, it was heads, there we go.

0:22:44It says it at the top, it says it was heads.

0:22:46I can take a screenshot if there's any...

0:22:48- Uh, uh.

0:22:49- Nah, so Federico's out.

0:22:55- Okay. - Yeah.

0:22:56Sorry Federico, I didn't have the volume up.

0:22:58- It's fine. - But it says heads

0:22:59at the top of the screen.

0:23:00- Okay, I'm gonna go with heads again.

0:23:05- All right, I'll go tails then.

0:23:07- Tails.

0:23:10- Yeah, baby.

0:23:11- All right. - I told you,

0:23:12four more years.

0:23:13Four more years, let's go!

0:23:16Let's go!

0:23:17- He's gonna be in soft football.

0:23:17- Four more years, let's go!

0:23:20Annual Chairman Forever, let's go.

0:23:24- Congratulations.

0:23:25- Thank you very much.

0:23:27- Congrats, Mike.

0:23:28- Thank you, thank you.

0:23:30I don't ever wanna decide this on a coin flip ever again.

0:23:33- Yeah, well, we're gonna get to that.

0:23:35- Yeah. - Mm-hmm.

0:23:36- We got some more stuff to do first.

0:23:38- But by the way, let's go.

0:23:40You know?

0:23:43Can I get a let's go from the two of you?

0:23:47- Mm-hmm.

0:23:48- Let's a go.

0:23:49- There we go, that's all I wanted, thank you.

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0:26:10Flexi time.

0:26:13Woo woo woo woo.

0:26:15The Flexis is a game held after each edition of the Rikis.

0:26:18It consists of a series of additional picks

0:26:20in relation to the upcoming Apple event or year.

0:26:24Scoring is completed separately from the main game,

0:26:27but like the Rikis, the order of picks

0:26:30is set by the results of the previous game,

0:26:32and ties will be broken by using dice by Peacock.

0:26:36Please lie down as the rules are read.

0:26:39(dramatic music)

0:26:42Hosts must make a minimum of five Flexi picks.

0:26:49Each correct pick is awarded with one point.

0:26:53Wrong picks don't remove any points,

0:26:56but no partial points will be awarded.

0:26:58The winner is determined by comparing the percentage

0:27:02of correct Flexis made by each host.

0:27:05The winner can use their chosen title

0:27:07as long as they are the winner.

0:27:09In case you've forgotten these, I will now remind you.

0:27:11Federico shall be named Prince Flexi,

0:27:14and is known as King Flexi when having won

0:27:16both the keynote and annual games.

0:27:20Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington

0:27:22and uses the name Archduke Flexington when applicable.

0:27:26Mine is the Attorney General Flexi,

0:27:29and I am the Secretary of Deflex when necessary.

0:27:33Loser of the Flexis must compensate the winner

0:27:36by donating to a charity of the winner's choice.

0:27:39The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong Flexi

0:27:42made by the loser.

0:27:44The money must be donated on air.

0:27:47Mike currently is the winner of both the keynote

0:27:50and the annual Flexis.

0:27:52So good work there, Mike.

0:27:55- I am the Archduke.

0:27:56- It's true.

0:27:57And if you were to hold all four titles,

0:27:59then you could choose your own title,

0:28:01but that's not applicable today.

0:28:03So you may be seated.

0:28:05(gentle music)

0:28:07- I look forward to the day

0:28:09when you are the Secretary of Deflex.

0:28:11- I know.

0:28:12- That will be a good time, and we'll all enjoy it.

0:28:13- Well, it could start today.

0:28:15It could start today.

0:28:16- No, it can't start today,

0:28:18because you just lost the annual.

0:28:20You just lost.

0:28:22- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

0:28:23Those titles are just for the Flexis.

0:28:25I could be-

0:28:26- No, just for the Flexis.

0:28:27- Yeah, if I win the Flexis today,

0:28:29and I win the Flexis in a March event,

0:28:31then I could be Secretary of Deflex.

0:28:34So we'll see.

0:28:35- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:28:38Okay, I forgot.

0:28:39Yes, there isn't like a consolidate.

0:28:42Yeah, okay, all right.

0:28:43My picks were, there is no iPad bigger than 12.9 inches.

0:28:50- Correct.

0:28:52- See, that was my proof.

0:28:53You know what I just said a minute ago?

0:28:55That I didn't think the 16 inch iPad would happen.

0:28:58There it is.

0:28:59It's my first Flexi.

0:29:00- It's in black and white.

0:29:01- I really didn't think it was gonna happen.

0:29:03- Highlighted in green.

0:29:04- An iPhone gets a periscope camera.

0:29:07Now-

0:29:09- I mean, technically.

0:29:12- So I would say this is the same

0:29:14as a small number of people.

0:29:15You know what I'm saying.

0:29:19Technically it's a tetra prism camera,

0:29:22but when I said periscope,

0:29:24we all knew it meant bigger telephoto, right?

0:29:27Like how they build it is not-

0:29:28- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:29:29- I'm fine with you getting this.

0:29:31- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:29:32- Now this one I have a question on.

0:29:34And it looks like somebody graded it green

0:29:36and it wasn't me.

0:29:38Apple's headset has widgets that look similar to iOS.

0:29:42- Who graded it green?

0:29:43Where are widgets?

0:29:44- I graded it green based on a Mastodon post

0:29:49by our friend Underscore showing WidgetSmith

0:29:52working in the, I guess, the simulator.

0:29:54- That's an app.

0:29:56- But you can stick the widgets wherever you want.

0:30:00- Yeah, but they're not like widgets

0:30:01like on the home screen.

0:30:03- So this is my question.

0:30:05Like I don't sure if I give this to myself.

0:30:07- There's no widgets gallery.

0:30:08- There's no such thing as widgets,

0:30:09but you can, what app has widget code can just,

0:30:14they can exist, they can look exactly the same.

0:30:17- You can make app interfaces like Windows

0:30:20that look like widgets, but there's like an easy,

0:30:23a pretty clear cut way to tell

0:30:25whether widgets are supported or not.

0:30:27There's no widget gallery on Visualize.

0:30:30- I don't think that there are widgets.

0:30:31That's why I didn't grade this.

0:30:33But what I did, I did put this into the notes today

0:30:35to just to ask the question, right,

0:30:37of like you can make things that look and smell like widgets

0:30:40but they're not widgets.

0:30:42- Yeah, should we call Underscore?

0:30:45- No, 'cause I know that he'll tell the correct answer,

0:30:47which is like they're on.

0:30:49- Okay, so.

0:30:51- The Vision OS does not have widgets,

0:30:53but he is able to build WidgetSmith as like a,

0:30:56what do they call it?

0:30:58There's one of the things where you can actually

0:31:00break out something onto its own.

0:31:02There are three types of apps, right?

0:31:03- Okay.

0:31:04- And so because he's building it in SwiftUI elements,

0:31:07it's like he can make that work.

0:31:09- Okay, all right.

0:31:09- But it's not, as Federico said,

0:31:11there isn't a widget gallery, right?

0:31:13That doesn't exist on Vision OS.

0:31:15- Okay, okay.

0:31:16So widget-like things but not widgets, so no point.

0:31:19- Yeah. - Yeah.

0:31:20- Okay.

0:31:21- Apple releases an iMac with a larger screen.

0:31:24- Mm-mm, nope.

0:31:24In fact, they said they're not gonna do it.

0:31:26- They said they wouldn't.

0:31:27- That could be wronger in a Flexi there, really, you know?

0:31:30- Yeah.

0:31:32- AirPods Max 2 feature a foldable design

0:31:35and come with a new case that fully encloses them.

0:31:39- Nope.

0:31:40- You could have stopped after AirPods Max 2.

0:31:42- Yeah. - Yeah.

0:31:43I was just trying to like get it out into the world, right?

0:31:48I was wishing. - Yeah.

0:31:50- Like this next one, the iPad Mini gets updated

0:31:52featuring either a mini LED or OLED screen.

0:31:55- Oh boy. - I didn't think

0:31:56it would happen, but I wanted it.

0:31:57I want both of these things.

0:31:58And then my final one too.

0:32:00These last three, this was just my wishlist.

0:32:02This was my list to Santa Cook,

0:32:04but he did not give me any of these things.

0:32:05Apple releases a new monitor.

0:32:07I wanted all three of these things and I got zero.

0:32:09- This is a shopping list, not Flexis.

0:32:12- Doesn't matter, man, doesn't matter.

0:32:14- So at the end of your Flexis,

0:32:17you have two out of six or seven?

0:32:22- Or seven. - Two out of seven.

0:32:24- Two out of seven.

0:32:26- Okay. - Two out of seven, correct.

0:32:28- All right. - All right.

0:32:30- I'm up next.

0:32:31I said the iPad Mini would be updated in 2023.

0:32:34It's a negative.

0:32:37Apple Music classical ships in 2023.

0:32:41- It did. - Got that.

0:32:43Even the iPad version.

0:32:44- Yeah, even that.

0:32:46- Twitter will file for bankruptcy in 2023.

0:32:49- I mean.

0:32:51- Shockingly did not happen.

0:32:52- They have not.

0:32:53They have not. - They have not yet.

0:32:55- Not yet.

0:32:57The iPhone 15 and 15 Pro use the same generation system

0:33:01on a chip.

0:33:01- They do not, right? - Did not.

0:33:05Although the rumor is the 16 and 16 Pro might,

0:33:07so maybe this will be ahead of its time.

0:33:08- Yeah, okay.

0:33:10- Apple sells an iPhone 15 Ultra.

0:33:13- Nope. - Nope.

0:33:14The Apple Silicon Mac Pro allows third party GPUs

0:33:18to be used.

0:33:19- I wish.

0:33:21- Not that one.

0:33:24I will literally buy, and I'm gonna put this on the record,

0:33:26if Apple ever brings back external GPUs,

0:33:31I'm gonna buy a Mac Pro.

0:33:32If they ever do it. - Oh my God.

0:33:36- If eGPUs come back to Apple platforms,

0:33:40save this bit of audio,

0:33:43and come back to haunt me in the future,

0:33:45I will buy a Mac Pro.

0:33:46- It's okay.

0:33:48And lastly, the Mac Mini is updated

0:33:52to include more than one system on a chip option.

0:33:56I got it right, M2 and M2 Pro.

0:33:59- Nice, nice.

0:34:02- So that is two out of six for me, I believe.

0:34:04- Two out of six, better ratio than Mike.

0:34:06- Why?

0:34:07- Kinda two if you don't count today.

0:34:08- One, two, three, four, five, seven.

0:34:11Two out of seven.

0:34:12- It's indentated.

0:34:13- You've done this, both of you have done this

0:34:15two times in a row.

0:34:16Like why do you need to count them?

0:34:17- I don't know.

0:34:18- What is wrong with you?

0:34:19- I need a number of these in the document

0:34:21instead of using bullets clearly.

0:34:22- Yeah, that would actually make sense, right?

0:34:25We should be numbered.

0:34:27- I failed math in high school, so that's my problem.

0:34:31All right, so my flexes.

0:34:33Number one, there will be new ways to invoke Siri by voice

0:34:37instead of saying, "Hey, assistant."

0:34:40Yeah, now you can just say Siri and it'll work.

0:34:44- Are y'all doing that?

0:34:44Have you turned off the hey?

0:34:46- I did and then forgot.

0:34:48- Same.

0:34:50- Awesome.

0:34:51- Number two, Apple will revive the HomePod line

0:34:57with new devices.

0:34:58- Yeah, new is doing a lot of work, but yeah.

0:35:03- They came back with the original quote unquote

0:35:06original HomePod, right?

0:35:07- Yeah, it's an interesting, it's a revival.

0:35:09- Well, it's a revival, something that was dead.

0:35:12- The HomePod specifically was revived.

0:35:14- The HomePod line.

0:35:17- Very specifically.

0:35:18- Johnny Sergi's doing CPR on it in the back.

0:35:20- Yeah.

0:35:21Wait, what is this in the Discord?

0:35:25- There's a lot of things happening

0:35:28in the Discord right now.

0:35:30New devices plural must be at least two.

0:35:32- Oh, with new devices, it comes with two colors.

0:35:38- But this is not great, it's not in the notes.

0:35:42- No, your pick says, "We'll revive the HomePod line

0:35:46with new devices."

0:35:47- New devices.

0:35:48- And they have one new device.

0:35:49- Well, it comes into college.

0:35:52- Apparently it was discussed when,

0:35:54I don't know how people remember these things

0:35:56or if they just.

0:35:57- Because they all are, so Kate says, plural,

0:36:01"It was discussed when it was picked."

0:36:03That's what Jason adds.

0:36:04There's a timestamp, wow.

0:36:07So I think Federico misses it, right?

0:36:12- I mean.

0:36:14- Oh, it says in the notes here,

0:36:15"More than one, excluding the HomePod mini."

0:36:18So it must have been in our conversation,

0:36:20but we didn't put it in our document.

0:36:21- Well, but it doesn't exclude colors.

0:36:22It doesn't exclude colors.

0:36:23- But colors on different devices, thumbs down.

0:36:26- Okay.

0:36:28- All right.

0:36:30- Did not get that one.

0:36:31- Number three, second generation AirPods Max

0:36:34will ship during the year.

0:36:35We have established that they didn't.

0:36:38- Killing me, man.

0:36:39- Number four.

0:36:39- Just killing me.

0:36:40- There is no second gen Apple Watch Ultra.

0:36:43- There is a second gen Apple Watch Ultra.

0:36:46- Technically for a period of time there wasn't.

0:36:49Then it came back again.

0:36:51- Just in the US, just here.

0:36:54Number five, Apple brings new actions to shortcuts

0:36:57to control Windows on iPadOS.

0:37:00Also incorrect.

0:37:03Number six is interesting.

0:37:04So I said, Apple releases new developer APIs

0:37:07for stage managers, stage manager.

0:37:10Now, I remember that there was something

0:37:15for developers in stage manager.

0:37:17So I asked around to people in the know.

0:37:21And what they did is something that I think requires

0:37:26a bit of adjudication.

0:37:29So there was this bug that caused a lot of headache

0:37:33to developers who wanted to figure out how to work

0:37:35with stage manager and the keyboard,

0:37:38the software keyboard on iPadOS.

0:37:41So what they did in 2023,

0:37:44they explained a workaround that they actually rolled out

0:37:49in iPadOS 16.1.

0:37:54They, it wasn't an API.

0:37:59It was this technique to deal with the software keyboard

0:38:03that Apple explained to developers in 2023.

0:38:08- I mean, I will just ask you point blank,

0:38:09do you think you got this?

0:38:11- I don't think I got it.

0:38:12- No, I don't think you got it.

0:38:14I appreciate the legwork though.

0:38:16- But I don't think I got it.

0:38:18- No.

0:38:19- Sorry, buddy. - And lastly, I said,

0:38:21at least one Twitter app update will be rejected

0:38:25from the App Store.

0:38:26Do we remember if at any point--

0:38:29- I've done some digging on this and I can't find anything.

0:38:31- So what did happen is they rejected a metadata change

0:38:36to change the name from Twitter to X,

0:38:40but that seems to be independent of like a new build.

0:38:44Like the app, well, it may have been in conjunction

0:38:47with an app update, but the app wasn't rejected.

0:38:50The metadata change was rejected.

0:38:51And what Apple changed was the rule about the metadata,

0:38:55not a rule about the app.

0:38:57- I mean, that qualifies as an app update though.

0:39:00- Yeah, I'm willing to give it to you,

0:39:02but by like the skin of your teeth,

0:39:04I think just a little bit.

0:39:06- Yeah, 'cause I feel like it's just,

0:39:07we don't fully understand the function.

0:39:10Like I would expect that the only way you could change

0:39:12the name of an application is to do it via an update.

0:39:15And if they rejected the metadata change,

0:39:17they rejected the update.

0:39:19You know?

0:39:22- That makes us tied two out of seven for all of us.

0:39:27- Yep. - Perfect.

0:39:28I will turn my phone off silent again.

0:39:32I will, the volume put is at maximum.

0:39:36- All right, who's gonna call first?

0:39:38I'll call first. - If you're gonna win again,

0:39:40Mike, I swear this game is Rick D'Inofrio.

0:39:42- I will call Tails, there you go.

0:39:44I'm started with that, see how that makes you feel.

0:39:46- Yeah, I will also call Tails.

0:39:48- I'll go Heads then.

0:39:49- All right.

0:39:50- Heads. - All right, Steven won.

0:39:54- Yay! - That's the end of that.

0:39:56That's the end of that.

0:39:57- Oh, y'all have to pick for the loser.

0:40:00- Oh. - Hmm.

0:40:01- Oh no. - 'Cause someone has to donate.

0:40:04- I know I will have to donate.

0:40:06- Probably. - Federico, you call.

0:40:09- Heads.

0:40:10- Heads, yeah, there you go.

0:40:14You're having a bad luck day today, Federico.

0:40:16- Wait, I said heads. - Yeah, he just won.

0:40:18- Oh, then I lost. - I won.

0:40:20- You're having a good luck day.

0:40:21Well, I consider it to be the true winner

0:40:23to donate to charity, personally.

0:40:26- Oh. - Nice spin.

0:40:27- I can't speak for the two of you,

0:40:28but I think the true winner is the person.

0:40:30- Nice spin, Piai.

0:40:33- That's a good, good, good work in there.

0:40:38- Would you like to give me a charity, Steven?

0:40:40- Yeah, so I'm going to say,

0:40:44I didn't have one picked, so I'm looking through.

0:40:49- Steven, this is the first step

0:40:51toward the making of the Secretary of the Flex.

0:40:55- Oh, it is.

0:40:56- Yeah.

0:40:58- So you go to win, you have to win a keynote flexies, right?

0:41:01- Yeah. - You are now attorney,

0:41:02what are you now? - AG Flexi.

0:41:04- AG Flexi. - Attorney General Flexi, man.

0:41:06- Yeah, yeah, so Steven has evolved into AG Flexi.

0:41:09- Yeah.

0:41:10Yeah, Mike, I'm going to say

0:41:14the Stax Music Academy here in Memphis.

0:41:17So it's staxmusicacademy.org.

0:41:20They do music, a lot of music history stuff in Memphis,

0:41:26but music stuff for students in the city,

0:41:30a bunch of really cool stuff.

0:41:31There's a charter school,

0:41:33and I think you should donate some money to them.

0:41:36- I will, what is the total?

0:41:38- $250, I believe, right?

0:41:39It's $50 per wrong pick, you had five wrong picks, so 250.

0:41:43- Yeah.

0:41:44- Oh.

0:41:45Wait, really?

0:41:49That sounds like a lot of money.

0:41:50- Isn't it?

0:41:50It's $50 per wrong pick.

0:41:52- Yeah, now you understand my pain.

0:41:53Yeah, buddy, yeah.

0:41:55- No, it's $25, $25.

0:41:58- Yeah, I mean, jeez, jeez.

0:42:00- Come on, Steven, we were about to scam him.

0:42:02- So it's 125.

0:42:04- I will tell you right now, I'd already opened it.

0:42:06I wasn't going to believe anything anybody told me

0:42:08because it just seemed like way more money than I remember.

0:42:12Oh, dear.

0:42:14- $2,500.

0:42:15- $2,000.

0:42:17- You're going to get your name on a building down there.

0:42:20- I will also cover the transaction fees.

0:42:23- You should.

0:42:24I mean, you're a decent human being, right?

0:42:26- Done.

0:42:28- Thank you very much.

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0:45:09- All right.

0:45:12I think as has been proven today and all of 2023,

0:45:17the risky has gotten out of hand.

0:45:22- Yeah.

0:45:23- And in a way to try and make something be risky enough,

0:45:28we have had to like layer too much.

0:45:30So my suggestion,

0:45:33so we need to relax the risky rules.

0:45:37And I think that we should do this piece by piece

0:45:41over the course of 2024.

0:45:43And maybe by the end of the year,

0:45:45we have like truly landed on something good.

0:45:48I think the first step is remove the contingent

0:45:53of could never have been rumored before.

0:45:56- Yes.

0:45:57- And then we go from there.

0:45:59- Okay.

0:45:59- So we still all have to agree.

0:46:01- Before we discuss this, I also wanna say,

0:46:03we can talk about this in a couple of minutes.

0:46:05I also have an idea for an addition to the game

0:46:09that we can talk about next time.

0:46:11But first, the risk factor.

0:46:16- Yeah. - I agree.

0:46:17- Okay.

0:46:18So I can just remove the sentence that says

0:46:20a pick cannot be named risky

0:46:21if it has been previously rumored by publications

0:46:23of record nine to five for Mac rumors.

0:46:25I can just delete that.

0:46:27- At this point, all kinds of things get rumored.

0:46:29- Yeah. - Right?

0:46:31Especially with this new generation of quote unquote

0:46:33leakers that we have.

0:46:35All kinds of things get rumored and get picked up.

0:46:38So I think it's making the game impossible.

0:46:42- It is. - At this point.

0:46:43- We also had a to-do item in here

0:46:46to name Jason as the adjudicator.

0:46:49Do we feel like that's necessary?

0:46:50Or do we wanna leave that kind of

0:46:52in the parking lot for now?

0:46:53- Why did that?

0:46:55I know there was some kind of,

0:46:57we had a fight and we had to call Jason.

0:46:59Maybe we don't need to.

0:47:01I don't think we need to worry about it.

0:47:02- Yeah, we're just gonna get rid of that.

0:47:04Not give Jason any more power than he already has.

0:47:06So the only change--

0:47:07- Well, he actually has negative power

0:47:09in the bill of, in the bill of--

0:47:11- So the only change is removing the rule,

0:47:14the sentence about nine to five Mac and Mac rumors.

0:47:17- Yeah.

0:47:18- Okay.

0:47:19And basically what we are doing is sort of like,

0:47:22we'll know it when we see it.

0:47:24Like if something is risky or not.

0:47:26- The reason that this was introduced

0:47:27is because we were arguing too much

0:47:29when we were trying to agree

0:47:30as to whether something was risky or not.

0:47:32Like that was why this part was put in

0:47:35to try and stop the fighting.

0:47:36- But also the game was new.

0:47:37We've been doing this for a good number of years.

0:47:40- No, that was added like a year or two ago.

0:47:44Yeah, we've not always done it that way

0:47:45with the rumors of record and stuff like that.

0:47:47- Yeah, that was added.

0:47:48And so it's just gonna have to be a case of like,

0:47:52by now I would hope that we've internalized it.

0:47:55'Cause I do think that there is a thing of like,

0:47:57if something has been rumored in the last week,

0:48:00it's not risky anymore, but like I don't, right?

0:48:03Like unless it's a rumor which is just like out there.

0:48:08So like I think that we'll be able to understand that

0:48:12as we hit it and we'll just have to work on it

0:48:13as time goes on, right?

0:48:15Like I just think that's just the way

0:48:16we're gonna have to play this now.

0:48:17And just see, that's what I'm saying.

0:48:18Like we start with this and we see how it makes us feel

0:48:22as we move through the year.

0:48:23- Okay.

0:48:24Federica, do you wanna talk about your possible addition

0:48:27or do you wanna say about that?

0:48:28- Yes, so I wanna leave you with an idea.

0:48:30- All right.

0:48:31- So let it sit in your brain for a few weeks

0:48:35and if there's an event in March, we can reconsider this.

0:48:38So hear me out.

0:48:41Are you both familiar with Mario Kart?

0:48:45- Yeah.

0:48:45- Yes.

0:48:46- I mean, you've know the, why are you playing?

0:48:48You know that.

0:48:50- So you know in Mario Kart, the game is designed

0:48:53to help you out if you are consistently in the last spot.

0:48:58- Rubber banding.

0:49:01- Rubber banding.

0:49:03Every once in a while, if you're last,

0:49:05you get the blue shell,

0:49:06which causes havoc and fun in the game.

0:49:12I am thinking of something along the lines of a blue shell

0:49:16for the Riki's where if you consistently lose something,

0:49:21you get a special power every once in a while

0:49:29to alter the game.

0:49:31- We've toyed with this before, right?

0:49:34That like, but it was in the opposite

0:49:37that the winner could have a rule change of their choice.

0:49:42- Yeah, which seems a little power hungry in hindsight.

0:49:45- Exactly.

0:49:46So I'm thinking let's flip that on its side.

0:49:49Let's give no power to the losers.

0:49:52So something to think about, what could it be?

0:49:56I don't know, but just the equivalent of a blue shell.

0:50:00- Okay.

0:50:01- Before the game.

0:50:02- I will be willing to accept this on one condition.

0:50:06The loser has a name.

0:50:11- What do you mean?

0:50:12- You were named as the loser, right?

0:50:17- The loser idol.

0:50:18- Yes, the way that it would then be written in the rules.

0:50:22- Right, so we gotta come up with loser names.

0:50:25- Has to have a name attached to them,

0:50:28which is not good to have, you know?

0:50:29Like it's a name you don't want.

0:50:31It's like a, what is it?

0:50:33- It's a shame skull.

0:50:34- It's a scarlet letter kind of thing.

0:50:35Like you are shamed and therefore you can use your power

0:50:41your embarrassing power.

0:50:43- Like in this case, for example, Mike,

0:50:45you would be not the Duke, but let's say the-

0:50:48- Like the pauper.

0:50:50- Of Smellington or something like that.

0:50:54- Like the jester of something.

0:50:57- The jester of Smellington.

0:50:59- I would wanna put some guard rails around it

0:51:02that it wasn't like you were just gonna give yourself points.

0:51:04Like it has to be, right?

0:51:07- It has to be something that gives you another shot

0:51:09or something.

0:51:10Like a blue shell essentially.

0:51:13- I tell you what, let's have listeners,

0:51:16if they have ideas for power ups off of the game,

0:51:18submit them on the feedback form on the website.

0:51:21- Like one could be like, you get an extra regular pick.

0:51:25- Exactly, exactly.

0:51:26- Ooh, yeah, okay.

0:51:28- But we just need to work out the mechanics.

0:51:30Like how long do you have to be the loser for?

0:51:33- Yeah, it has to be like at least twice in a row,

0:51:38if not three times.

0:51:39- I would say twice.

0:51:40Like if somebody has lost two times in a row,

0:51:44they get the ability to change the rules

0:51:47for the next round is probably a good.

0:51:51- Maybe, let's think about it.

0:51:53Let's think about it and get suggestions from people.

0:51:55- This is good fun.

0:51:56This is good fun.

0:51:58- So let us know in the feedback form if you have ideas.

0:52:01- No.

0:52:02- Round one, Mike you're up.

0:52:05- The first OLED iPad is introduced.

0:52:08I am, I've like Kirby, I have taken in all of your energy

0:52:13from the both of you from last year

0:52:16and I'm now spitting it back out at you in the form of.

0:52:19- Are you going all in with iPad?

0:52:21- Yes, for the first two picks I'm all iPad.

0:52:25I've gobbled up your enthusiasm.

0:52:28I've chewed it, made it smaller

0:52:30and I'm spitting it back out at you

0:52:31in the sense of the first OLED iPad is introduced.

0:52:35- Okay, nice.

0:52:37Sounds like it's gonna happen, so yeah.

0:52:40- I mean, if they don't, I mean, what's going on?

0:52:42Just pack up and go up.

0:52:44- All right, Steven you're up.

0:52:48- The Apple Watch 10 brings an updated design

0:52:51inspired by the Apple Watch Ultra in some way.

0:52:55- How do you quantify this?

0:52:58- I think it could be a flat screen.

0:53:00It could be an action button.

0:53:02It could be a crown guard.

0:53:03- Put this in the ungraded details for context.

0:53:06- Yeah, so we have like an idea.

0:53:08- So ungraded, action button?

0:53:12- Could be, yeah, action button.

0:53:13- Flat glass or crown guard.

0:53:18- Okay, that's good enough.

0:53:21- You don't, yeah, it's just 'cause it's the in some way,

0:53:24right, like I can see that particular wording

0:53:27coming back to be a problem later on.

0:53:30- Does it have to be called Apple Watch 10?

0:53:33- I mean, I could change this to the new Apple Watch,

0:53:37like the 10th generation Apple Watch.

0:53:38- That's fine, no, it's fine, it's fine.

0:53:40- Yeah. - Yeah.

0:53:42- We know, and you see it.

0:53:43This is an interesting pick because this,

0:53:45I mean, it could be this year,

0:53:46it could be next year, right?

0:53:48- Could be, I mean, they're on series nine,

0:53:51so we'll see, see what they do.

0:53:52- Right, but like, so there is this,

0:53:54the rumor about the Apple Watch X, right?

0:53:56- Mm-hmm, I think it's Apple Watch Twitter.

0:53:59- That would denote the 10th year,

0:54:03and this isn't that?

0:54:05- Yeah, but neither was the iPhone 10 and its 10th year, so.

0:54:09- Is that true?

0:54:10- Yes.

0:54:11- No, it was its 10th year.

0:54:12- Oh, was it? - It was 2017, yeah.

0:54:14- Well, okay. - Yeah, because they started,

0:54:16the numbering was different 'cause we had the like--

0:54:18- But Apple's not gonna release the series 10

0:54:21and then do the series X and it'd be different somehow.

0:54:24So I'm standing by this.

0:54:27- Yeah, no, you should, but I'm just saying,

0:54:28I'm just like, we're conversing here.

0:54:30Like this idea of Apple Watch X,

0:54:32that might just be what it's like they're calling it, right?

0:54:34But it might be just like symbolic of like,

0:54:36like the iPhone 10 was, that will be this

0:54:40for the Apple Watch, and like,

0:54:42that might not be this year, but.

0:54:44- Sometimes I think about the fact

0:54:45that there was never Windows 9 or the iPhone 9.

0:54:49- It's weird, right?

0:54:50- Yeah.

0:54:51Okay, round one, my pick.

0:54:54The Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro is substantially redesigned

0:54:58after four years.

0:54:59- There's something about the after four years

0:55:02that I just find very charming.

0:55:04- You know.

0:55:06- You're just like, is it because you're upset?

0:55:08Like why is that in here?

0:55:10Okay, fair enough.

0:55:11- That's the context.

0:55:12The context reflects my mental state about this product.

0:55:17Yeah.

0:55:19- What you're missing is it actually says

0:55:20after four years, suckers, I hate you.

0:55:23Also an interesting addition that you see in here.

0:55:25- Bills, yep.

0:55:26- Unnecessary.

0:55:28- Yep.

0:55:28- Quick question, quick question.

0:55:31Two questions actually.

0:55:32One, what if they did this in January?

0:55:35That would be before four years, technically.

0:55:38Just gonna put that out there.

0:55:39(laughing)

0:55:42- Okay, it's substantially redesigned for the first time.

0:55:47- Okay, that's better.

0:55:51- For the first time since its introduction.

0:55:55- Perfect.

0:55:56- In 2020.

0:55:57- Okay.

0:55:58And I would like some ungraded adornment

0:56:03on what substantially redesigned could be.

0:56:06- Ungraded.

0:56:07- Well, I actually, before we get there, if you don't mind,

0:56:09I would like to ask a similar question to Federico

0:56:11that we asked of Steven.

0:56:13I mean, the Magic Keyboard is new, right?

0:56:16Like if you would have made this pick in 2019,

0:56:20you would have said the Smart Keyboard.

0:56:21- Okay, yeah.

0:56:25- Say like the high-end keyboard for iPad Pro

0:56:27or something like that would maybe be a kind of pick to you.

0:56:31'Cause they might not call it the Magic Keyboard.

0:56:33- We could use this official name, can't we?

0:56:35Isn't it just Magic Keyboard?

0:56:36- Yeah, but they might come up with a new name completely.

0:56:39- Yeah, but what if they come out with like Pro Keyboard

0:56:42for iPad Pro or something?

0:56:44- Why don't you just call it the keyboard?

0:56:45The keyboard for iPad Pro.

0:56:46- The keyboard.

0:56:47- Yeah, the keyboard for iPad Pro.

0:56:50'Cause it's always gonna be attached to that product.

0:56:53- Yeah.

0:56:54- No matter what it is.

0:56:54- Very detailed.

0:56:55A function row, a brand new--

0:56:58- That's a backlight, maybe?

0:57:00- Backlight, yeah.

0:57:01- Ooh, yeah.

0:57:02- Also a brand new aluminum body instead of like the...

0:57:07What is that material?

0:57:09- It's weird, whatever it is.

0:57:11- Rubber, whatever.

0:57:12Could be multiple USB ports, more viewing angles,

0:57:19like all these things.

0:57:20I mean, I'm pretty sure that this was rumored

0:57:21by Mark Gurman months ago.

0:57:24That they're making like a proper laptop thing.

0:57:26Essentially the Apple version of a bridge keyboard.

0:57:29- But you know, that works.

0:57:32- But you know, that actually works.

0:57:34So yeah.

0:57:34The keyboard for iPad Pro is substantially redesigned

0:57:38for the first time since its introduction in 2020.

0:57:41- I love it.

0:57:42- Let's hope that it doesn't put Apple out of business.

0:57:44- No.

0:57:45- That's what finally did them in.

0:57:47- Round two.

0:57:48There is a new, larger, non-Pro iPad.

0:57:53- Yeah, so the big iPad Air.

0:57:55- The big iPad Air or the iPad Studio that you've picked

0:57:59from last year, I guess.

0:58:00- The best timeline could be,

0:58:05they don't actually release the 15 inch iPad Air

0:58:08and they do release an iPad Studio,

0:58:10but it's called iPad Pro Studio.

0:58:12- And it's 19 inches.

0:58:14- It's between 19.0 and 19.99.

0:58:19- No, no, but I mean, it seems pretty much a lock

0:58:22at this point that they are gonna do the big iPad Air.

0:58:26- Yeah, they've done it with the MacBook Air,

0:58:28they did it with the phone.

0:58:29This is a thing they're doing now.

0:58:32- I just don't know.

0:58:35I don't, like, we can draw comparisons,

0:58:39but it's just like, but why?

0:58:43I don't know, we'll find out.

0:58:44I'm just not sure if I,

0:58:46I think like it's not so compelling with the iPhone,

0:58:50less compelling with the Mac.

0:58:51I think it's even less compelling with the iPad,

0:58:53but we'll see.

0:58:55- Okay, I'm up next.

0:59:00There will be no second generation Vision Pro

0:59:03announced in 2024.

0:59:05- Yeah, I think you're right.

0:59:07I don't think they're gonna announce any headsets.

0:59:10- Can you imagine?

0:59:11(laughs)

0:59:12It's six months later, they're like,

0:59:14you've got a new one and it's $2,000 cheaper.

0:59:16- It'd be like the iPad three to four cycle.

0:59:20Remember how fast that was?

0:59:22- Oh, it's exactly what Meta did to me.

0:59:26They're like, here's the Quest Pro,

0:59:27few months later, here's the Quest three,

0:59:30it's better and cheaper.

0:59:31Oh, okay, thank you for that.

0:59:33- And also like Steven, I think this is,

0:59:36you phrased this pick right,

0:59:38because you're saying no second generation Vision Pro.

0:59:41If they announce an Apple Vision or Vision SE

0:59:44or Vision S, whatever, it doesn't count,

0:59:48because you're saying second generation.

0:59:49- There's no way though.

0:59:49- Right?

0:59:51Even that, surely they don't.

0:59:53- I don't think they're,

0:59:55I don't think you're gonna do any other headsets this year.

0:59:58- I would be surprised if they did it.

1:00:00- But just in case, Steven is saying no second gen Vision Pro.

1:00:04- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:00:06Yeah, that's my hedge a little bit.

1:00:08- Yeah, yeah.

1:00:09All right, and my second pick is iOS 18

1:00:14will bring new AI features based on large language models

1:00:19with some generative capabilities.

1:00:22- Yeah, I hope so.

1:00:24- I think so.

1:00:25- I don't wanna say Siri because hey,

1:00:28maybe they're not gonna call it Siri anymore, who knows?

1:00:30But what I'm saying is the next version of iOS,

1:00:33AI, large language models, some generative features.

1:00:36- Okay.

1:00:40- Risky pick time.

1:00:41- Risky pick time.

1:00:42- Risky pick time.

1:00:43- These, I think these Riskys,

1:00:45they already embody some of the new spirit

1:00:48because we knew we wanted to do this.

1:00:50They are, I think compared to last year's, they are tamer.

1:00:54My pick is a game made by a studio owned by Meta

1:00:58is released on the Vision Pro.

1:01:00- I love this.

1:01:02I love it.

1:01:03- We know already that there are some third parties studios

1:01:06bringing their games to the Vision Pro,

1:01:08but not owned by Meta.

1:01:09That is the key factor.

1:01:11- They've named only a small handful of games.

1:01:14I mean, look for me, if we go all year

1:01:18without either Beat Saber or Vacation Simulator

1:01:23or Supernatural, like something terrible has happened.

1:01:26Like Meta surely are gonna do this

1:01:31is the way that I view it.

1:01:32And that's why it seems like a logical thing,

1:01:34but it will also still be like a funny moment

1:01:37when it happens.

1:01:38They own all the best studios now making VR games.

1:01:42So like basically I feel like as well,

1:01:45Apple have to try and convince them to do it.

1:01:47- Yes, that's how the relationship I think is gonna be now.

1:01:51It's not Meta sort of like pushing to be like,

1:01:54oh, we gotta be on the Vision Pro,

1:01:55but more like sort of Apple going to Meta and saying,

1:01:58can you please, can you guys please

1:02:00bring some of your games to this platform?

1:02:03Yeah.

1:02:04I like this a lot.

1:02:06I also like Steven's risky pick a lot.

1:02:10Apple CEO succession plan leaks.

1:02:14- This is mad lad energy and I love it.

1:02:17- And the reason this is wild is that you're not saying

1:02:22that they will share their succession plan,

1:02:25but that it will leak.

1:02:27- It will leak.

1:02:28Yeah, I was going for the fences in 24.

1:02:30- Yeah, it's big, it's big energy.

1:02:32- It's a big one, it's a big one.

1:02:34All right.

1:02:36- Speaking of swinging for the fences.

1:02:38(laughing)

1:02:40- I couldn't help myself.

1:02:42I already toned it down a bit.

1:02:44- At my request Federico made this simpler.

1:02:47- Now you tell me if I gotta make it even simpler.

1:02:51Okay, let me read the original text

1:02:53as it is in the document right now.

1:02:55A new iPad Pro will feature a front facing camera

1:02:58on the landscape side, higher than 27 Watts fast charging

1:03:02and eventually support more than four windows

1:03:05in the same stage manager workspace.

1:03:08Is this too much?

1:03:09- I think this is fun.

1:03:12I think if you're gonna, for me,

1:03:15this is still like the kind of level of risky

1:03:17'cause it's like you just picked a bunch of things.

1:03:20You know?

1:03:21- Eventually, and by eventually I mean.

1:03:23- It has to be by the pick and time.

1:03:26- It has to be by the end of the year.

1:03:27Therefore, if they release it.

1:03:28- 'Cause they could release it

1:03:30and then it could come later in the year.

1:03:31Right, but it obviously has to be by the time that we score.

1:03:36And I think that this, to me,

1:03:38this is kind of, I think, still in the spirit of it.

1:03:40'Cause you've picked a bunch of features, right?

1:03:42And it's like, you have to hit them.

1:03:44It's like a list of stuff.

1:03:45- And for context, a previous version of this pick

1:03:48had the detail of options with more than 16 gigs of RAM.

1:03:53Right now, the iPad Pro one terabyte model

1:03:57tops out at 16 gigs of RAM.

1:03:59I still think they're gonna make a 24 gig of RAM version

1:04:03of the iPad Pro, we'll see.

1:04:05But I removed the RAM mention.

1:04:08So once again, a new iPad Pro will feature

1:04:10front facing camera on the landscape side,

1:04:12higher than 27 watts fast charging,

1:04:16and eventually support more than four windows

1:04:18in the same stage manager workspace.

1:04:21- I think this works.

1:04:23- All right.

1:04:25- It's very exciting.

1:04:26- That's the regular picks and the risky picks.

1:04:30- Now it's time for the flexies.

1:04:33- Well, I just wanted to say about my round one picks,

1:04:35why I'm so iPad heavy.

1:04:36'Cause I had a Vision Pro one in here,

1:04:41which I would have got the point,

1:04:43which was Vision Pro ships by March.

1:04:45So if we had done this episode last week,

1:04:49I would have already scored a point.

1:04:50That's why I went all iPad,

1:04:51'cause it was just like, these are the things

1:04:53that then made sense to me after that.

1:04:55- Yeah.

1:04:57Okay, flexies.

1:04:59As Attorney General, I will go first.

1:05:02The M1 MacBook Air is still on sale at the end of the year.

1:05:08- Interesting.

1:05:12- It's the price point, boys.

1:05:13You know, I was all about it.

1:05:14- Yeah, I got it, I got it.

1:05:16- And then a couple of iPad ones.

1:05:18The ninth generation iPad,

1:05:20that's the one with the lightning port and the home button,

1:05:22is taken off the market by the end of the year.

1:05:25- Yeah.

1:05:26- But it hits the price point, Steven.

1:05:27- But they can move the 10th one down.

1:05:29- They can move the 10th.

1:05:30- Can they?

1:05:31- Yeah, I think they will.

1:05:31- Can they?

1:05:32- I think they will.

1:05:33- So I'll ask, I mean, I'm not trying to just be an idiot,

1:05:36but I'm just asking, like, why could they do that

1:05:39to the iPad but not the M2 MacBook Air?

1:05:41- Because the, I think it's about how good

1:05:45the M1 MacBook Air is versus how bad that iPad is.

1:05:48- Okay.

1:05:49- And that iPad is like the old design,

1:05:51and I don't think they want that kicking around anymore.

1:05:56- Okay, so up next, an updated iPad Air

1:05:59comes in at least one new color.

1:06:02And for your listening pleasure,

1:06:04I have listed the colors as space gray, starlight,

1:06:08pink, purple, and blue.

1:06:10- Okay, so a new color.

1:06:11- God, that list is just, makes no sense.

1:06:14- No.

1:06:15- No, it doesn't.

1:06:16- Why space gray and starlight?

1:06:17Where is midnight, the other color that complements,

1:06:20whatever, I have to count on it.

1:06:22- It's a mess, it is a mess.

1:06:24- Don't try and make sense of it.

1:06:27- Apple TV+ launches spatial content for the Vision Pro.

1:06:31Ungraded, could be new content

1:06:34or remastered existing content.

1:06:36- What does this mean?

1:06:40What are you saying?

1:06:42I'm not sure what this is.

1:06:43- This is, is this different from the 3D immersive stuff

1:06:46that they already announced?

1:06:48- Which they've already said they're gonna do.

1:06:49- Wait, have they?

1:06:51- Yeah, it's in the press release.

1:06:52- Oh no.

1:06:54- I win, I get the point.

1:06:55- Sorry, sorry bud.

1:06:57No, that's not how this works.

1:06:59- Does that make that invalid completely?

1:07:04- Well, I mean, it depends what you're,

1:07:06that's what I'm saying.

1:07:06I wanna know what your pick is.

1:07:09- I tell you what.

1:07:10- Because if it's like, if it's on Apple TV+,

1:07:13is it like an Apple TV+ show

1:07:15has some spatial content attached to it?

1:07:17- Are you more thinking of like

1:07:21360 degree sort of immersion?

1:07:25Like, I don't know what you mean.

1:07:26- What I'm thinking is like, yeah,

1:07:30I'm watching an episode of Ted Lasso

1:07:32and I can like look around the scene

1:07:34and like look around the locker room

1:07:36and that sort of thing.

1:07:37- Well, that's like.

1:07:42- What I would say is that if your pick could be,

1:07:45if I'm hearing what you're saying,

1:07:46Apple launches immersive video, which is their thing.

1:07:51Apple launches immersive video that includes

1:07:54Apple TV+ IP or something.

1:07:59- That would work for me.

1:08:01- Okay, 'cause they've said that they're gonna have,

1:08:03it says Vision Pro introduces Apple immersive video,

1:08:06a remarkable new entertainment format pioneered by Apple,

1:08:09but it doesn't have anything other than encounter dinosaurs,

1:08:12which is one of the demos, but you said Apple TV+.

1:08:15So I would say if you said like that they created

1:08:18some immersive video using Apple TV+ intellectual property,

1:08:23they haven't said they're gonna do that

1:08:26and so that feels like a thing.

1:08:28- So Apple launches immersive video content

1:08:32using TV+ IP?

1:08:35- Yes. - Okay.

1:08:37- Which is also fun pick.

1:08:39- Yeah, okay.

1:08:41- And then AirPods Pro 3,

1:08:46I'm done with the AirPods Max 2, I don't believe anymore.

1:08:49So AirPods Pro 3. - Friendship ended.

1:08:52- Friendship ended with Max.

1:08:54Launch with lossless support.

1:08:57- Nice, I wish.

1:08:59I don't think it's gonna happen this year,

1:09:00but I hope you're right.

1:09:03- We'll see. - Yeah.

1:09:04Okay, so that's five flexes.

1:09:08I also have, I believe, five flexes.

1:09:11I can count.

1:09:12Number one, as a result of allowing side loading on iPhone

1:09:16in certain countries, a major controversy about security

1:09:20and or malware on iOS happens.

1:09:23- Ooh. - Yeah.

1:09:25- That's good, man. - This is the side gate.

1:09:28Side gate. - Yeah.

1:09:29- That's what this one will be.

1:09:30- I'm imagining that something will happen

1:09:33because somebody will have side loaded something

1:09:35on their iPhone so they were not supposed to do.

1:09:38- Like, look, I tell you what this is gonna be

1:09:40and like this, 'cause what this reminds me of

1:09:42is like the AirTag thing.

1:09:43There will be something about side loading some app

1:09:47onto someone's phone who's in an abusive relationship.

1:09:50- Yeah. - And this app

1:09:51is tracking something about them.

1:09:53Like that is 100% what it would be.

1:09:56Like. - Unfortunately, yes.

1:09:57- Yeah, but like that's just the way that these things go

1:10:00and like that is also the kind of thing

1:10:01that would rightly cause a big.

1:10:04- A major, yeah.

1:10:06- Like press thing.

1:10:08- Yeah, number two.

1:10:11Vision Pro will not be available in Italy in 2024.

1:10:16- Want one. - Sadly, yeah.

1:10:19- I kinda want you to add officially to that

1:10:21because you're gonna have one, right?

1:10:23- Yeah, but available is not Big Apple.

1:10:27- I am not a country.

1:10:29(all laughing)

1:10:31But yes, you can add officially.

1:10:38- Number three.

1:10:40A Vision Pro will be used

1:10:42on the International Space Station.

1:10:44- God, I wish I thought of this.

1:10:46- Madness.

1:10:48- No, it's actually not.

1:10:50- Why? - Years and years ago,

1:10:53in 2015 or '16, NASA flew HoloLens

1:10:58on the International Space Station.

1:11:00- I didn't even know this, so I'm glad that I have some.

1:11:04- My favorite part of this

1:11:05is one of the immersive spaces is the moon.

1:11:08- Yeah, now you can be on the moon.

1:11:10- So I want now the astronaut to be looking at the moon,

1:11:13but then they put their Vision Pro on

1:11:14and now they're working on the moon.

1:11:16- There you go.

1:11:17- You can be on the moon twice.

1:11:20- Yeah, yo dog.

1:11:21How'd you like the moon?

1:11:23- How'd you like moons?

1:11:24- How'd you like moon on your moon?

1:11:25(all laughing)

1:11:27Oh, it's like we got moon at home.

1:11:29(all laughing)

1:11:31(B

1:11:36Number four, you will be able to create shortcuts

1:11:41with the new large language model infused Siri in iOS 18.

1:11:46This is something I've been saying for a while.

1:11:50You should be able to create some version of a shortcut

1:11:53with natural language.

1:11:54Like, hey, I wanna make a shortcut that does this and this,

1:11:57just without having to use drag and drop.

1:11:59Just let me use my voice and assemble the shortcut

1:12:01for me.

1:12:03- So what you've done here,

1:12:05I just wanna highlight this for a second.

1:12:07- Yes, yes.

1:12:08- You have combined the bugginess of shortcuts

1:12:11and the hallucinations of chat GPT.

1:12:14- Exactly.

1:12:15- See, this will cause the controversy

1:12:20that you've previously mentioned.

1:12:21Does your phone just start spitting out information

1:12:24on the open web?

1:12:26- Are you getting it?

1:12:27These are not two separate bits.

1:12:28(all laughing)

1:12:29- One thing.

1:12:30(all laughing)

1:12:32And lastly, number five,

1:12:34iPadOS 18 will feature new controls

1:12:37for audio input and output.

1:12:39Hashtag believe.

1:12:41- This is the zombie pic.

1:12:43- Yes, comes back to the achieve.

1:12:45- I have six flexes.

1:12:48- Okay.

1:12:48- So I'm going one more.

1:12:49Number one, new AirPods Max.

1:12:52(all laughing)

1:12:53Just roll it again, baby.

1:12:55Let's go.

1:12:57- Okay. - Yeah.

1:12:57- Number two, we will be able to watch Avatar,

1:13:00The Way of Water in 3D on Vision Pro.

1:13:03- My boy, Jimmy.

1:13:03- Yeah.

1:13:04- Let's go.

1:13:05And I'm waiting to watch this movie

1:13:06until I can watch it in 3D on my Vision Pro

1:13:09with a 150 inch screen in front of my face.

1:13:12Apple adds another sport to TV+.

1:13:16- Ooh, that's good.

1:13:17- F1.

1:13:18- Maybe F1.

1:13:21I don't know, but like I think,

1:13:23they're in the conversation all the time

1:13:25and I think at some point they're gonna pick up something.

1:13:28I think they seem to have just done so much work for MLS.

1:13:31Like I think they're gonna pick something else up.

1:13:34Third party Apple watch faces are introduced.

1:13:38- Wow, this should have been your risky pic.

1:13:40- It was gonna be my risky

1:13:42if you didn't agree to the mental one.

1:13:45I was listening to a podcast

1:13:48and I remember which one it was and someone said it

1:13:50and they were like, "Someday."

1:13:52And I was like, "Maybe now is someday."

1:13:54And you know what made me think about it?

1:13:56Third party keyboards.

1:13:58That was a thing that they did, right?

1:14:00And when it happened, we were all like,

1:14:03'cause it had been years of us wanting it

1:14:06because of SwiftKey and it was on Android.

1:14:08And it was like, there's no way Apple would do that.

1:14:11And then they just did it all of a sudden.

1:14:14My next one, Apple introduces a HomePod with a screen.

1:14:18- Nice.

1:14:20- And finally, VisionOS receives updates at WWDC

1:14:24that shipped later in 2024.

1:14:27- Like VisionOS too.

1:14:28- Yeah, but I didn't wanna call it that

1:14:30in case it wasn't that.

1:14:32- In case they go from VisionOS 1 to VisionOS 18

1:14:36to match the numbers of the other platforms.

1:14:38- It's like iPhone OS, they rename it, right?

1:14:42And then now it's like VOS 1 or something.

1:14:45- Or, stick with me here,

1:14:48they start naming it after big cats.

1:14:50- Oh no. - Or small cats.

1:14:53- VisionOS Panther.

1:14:55Oh my God, there's brush metal everywhere.

1:14:58- They should name VisionOS after dogs, if you ask me.

1:15:03Like VisionOS Beagle, VisionOS Golden Retriever.

1:15:08See? - VisionOS Labradoodle.

1:15:12That was great. - See?

1:15:13- Oh, that one. - Rolls of your tongue.

1:15:15- Yeah, it does. - Yeah.

1:15:18- All right. - Pitbull Mastiff.

1:15:20(laughing)

1:15:22Let's go, baby.

1:15:24- VisionOS German Shepherd, why not?

1:15:27- The drooliest update yet.

1:15:29- Okay.

1:15:32- Well, that does it.

1:15:34We have graded our 2023 picks

1:15:36and we have made confidently some picks for 2024.

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