00:00:00 ◼ ► Let's just dive right in let's start with something hugely important. Let's talk about mice analogy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► A lot of people have written in and and asked me with regard to my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► My computer woes and I'm putting woes and humongous air quotes there. What why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/16">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► Why is it I'm so preoccupied with having a computer. That will be good at running plex. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/22">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► When I have a Sonali G specifically a D.S. Eight hundred thirteen plus sitting right next to me as we speak. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/30">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► That can host plex. Why am I complaining and moaning about having a computer to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► Well the reason is that at least as of six months or maybe a year ago now. When I was running solid G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/42">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► Of running small G. Running plex on my some knowledge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► What ended up happening was anytime I tried to do a live transcode of just about anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/51">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► It just ground to a screeching halt. And it couldn't keep up with the trans code. Now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/57">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► It could be that things have gotten better over time. It could be that I didn't have my settings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/63">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Squared away because to Marcos point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► You know generally speaking plexus pretty maintenance free but it can get a little fiddly on occasion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/74">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► So it very well could be user error but one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► or another my experience with the eight hundred thirteen plus running Plex is that it just cannot transcode quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/81">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► enough and thus I need a full bore computer to do it now there are other smaller G. Models that absolutely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/86">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► Can transcode really well on the fly. The one that I have in my experience anyway was not it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/93">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► Now the other question is OK well why it why do you have to transcode the first place. Why don't you just you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/100">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► Have what MPEG four video whatever it is all over the place well let's just say that not all of my media is consistent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/106">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► And I'll leave it at that I could take on Milton scripts and transcode. Everything. But that takes a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/115">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► Because I don't have a trash can macro. And I'm too darn Lisi. So that is why I'm not using. Plex on my senility. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/122">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► I have the same Sonali G. and It's not. I mean it's a fairly when P.C.B. UN there it's not great it transcoding. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/130">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► But I haven't really run plex on it I use analogies native video. Serving thing is any good transcode sign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/135">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► Like either it can't transcode it at all which very rarely happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► but does occasionally happen where I just can't make heads or tails of it and it says like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► File and readable or whatever. I bet some some error messages that like. I can make as Or tell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/150">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► But most of the stuff that I find some pretty weird stuff. You know weird M Cavies of unknown origin is right.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/154">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► You know you can't do anything fancy like scrub around a video like don't like all you can do is play from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/164">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► beginning of sensually but they can keep up a dozen dropped frames. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► So it could just be plexus not taking advantage of the hardware in the same way that the thing that comes with analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► isn't in general when I've looked at like plaques and all the other sorts of things. So knowledge used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/178">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► Like that they call B.S. Video they have an i OS app they have to have a little server thing. My T.V.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/183">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► With no software installed just the quote unquote smart. Features of my T.V. It's either just as a deal on a server. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/190">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► It doesn't show you the cover art for your things and have a bunch of method in to all the stuff the Plex does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/199">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► But it has a fairly high rate of being able to play the video in a straight line from beginning to end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/205">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► Don't touch anything. No. Well maybe I'll start out I mean I freaking love plex with all my being. It. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/211">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► I do like all the meditative it gives you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► I do think despite what markers experience has been that it's very very easy ninety nine percent of the time the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/221">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► problem with plaques. Is that you really have to name things the way they expect you to name things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/228">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► But if you do and you're OK with that. Then you don't ever have to look at the names of anything. Because it's all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/234">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► You know with the cover art and with the full meditative just like you're saying John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► I really love it but it may be worth giving a sing a try just to see and I think it's the the play serious the D.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/245">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► Two fourteen play is the one I can think of all thought my head that the small G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/252">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► Makes that I believe has some onboard hardware to do some of this transcoding but arson Elegies do not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/256">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► I have one of those play ones too and it does claim to have hardware stuff and you can turn it on but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/265">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► when you turn it on the hardware decoding like it reduces the amount of things that it's able to transcode on a file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/270">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► like at the hardware decoding is like you know. Understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► Some particular formats and some particular bit rates or whatever. That's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► I don't know if that's true that's been my impression but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► when I checked that checkbox all the sudden a bunch of other stuff doesn't play. I want to check it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/285">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► And so I don't see what the advantage is it's not as if checking it makes something that I couldn't previously play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/293">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► play better. Everything place fine in software mode so I just leave the harbor thing on checked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► If only the new Apple T.V. Played M K V files natively will get I tell you what though if there is a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/303">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► If there's a plex app for the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/312">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► Which I've got to assume there will be I'm going to have to that's that genuinely that will probably make me buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/313">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► although I will say that I do love my Fire T.V. Stick it does work really well. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/320">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► Put out that the not so don't forget to to crush your plex streams for Apple T.V. Later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/325">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► Follow up since you went to the last ball biting first now a lot of water here solid go to the first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/332">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► The First off bottom second from Michael Hammond he was the first person to point out that last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► when I was trying to talk about the things that Apple is not going to do when they do the S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/341">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► Revision of their phones like it's not a total hardware redesign It's just like like the previous phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► but as the air sample I gave was a not going to suffer by Touch ID But of course such a deed to debut on an S. Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/350">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► Brain fart sorry so never mind that example needed when you caught either. No. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/357">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► We forget Well I guess I wanted to see if you knew. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/364">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► Now if I mean I knew as soon as those point out to me like I was stupid evil then I then of course of that I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/367">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► said that when you listen back Michelle has a yeah I did so but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► Michael Hammond won the race he was the first one. And then a million other people told me which is fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/376">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► All this next piece follow up is me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► We've talked on and off about the crescent moon on the front of the i Phone six and maybe even six plus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/383">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► I wanted to remind everyone that we did about this a little while ago that your warranty if you did not buy Apple Care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/390">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► probably runs out the next ten or so days if you got a launch day i Phone six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/396">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► I have scheduled a Genius Bar appointment for this coming Sunday. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► Believe About midday and so I'm going to go into the Genius Bar to see about them replacing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► Either the screen or the entire phone. I have heard from numerous people through the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/411">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► I've heard that they will completely give you a new phone which I think is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/419">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► Actually refer to strictly speaking but the given give you a phone that's new to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► I've heard that they'll give you or of repair the screen like give you a whole new screen assembly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/426">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► And I've heard they'll tell you. Well it doesn't affect the pictures so screw off and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► I don't know I guess every every person's experience is a little bit different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/435">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► I will report back on what my experience is but I will find out Sunday. Additionally. I'm told as per lane. W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/439">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► That to get this fixed. Out of warranty is one hundred nine dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► I don't know if that is inclusive of Apple Care or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► but it's something to think about so if you have one of these crescent moon. I Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► Issues I would strongly suggest you go and get that checked out in the next week or so Gandhi. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/459">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► Gave some clarification on the whole thing about the S B G icon for the pin tab and Safari nine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/468">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► Why were there two different instructions I think we put them both in last week's show notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► Turns out that there is only one one of them is old one of them is you know it was difficult to tell which was which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/481">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► will put links in the show it's to clear it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► The real one the apple on to use now is the one that says Link rally gles mask hyphen hike on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/489">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► That is the real one that is the good one that's the one you have to put in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► I have to go to my side and delete the other one now that I know which one is fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► and is also linked to a thread in Apple's developer forms and mailing with the archive on one of the W.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/500">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► Meaningless from the W three. Explaining the evolution of the thing but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► It's link rally calls mask I have an icon in case you're wondering. All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/512">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► Our first batch of this week is Cards Against Humanity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► And rather than reading a normal sponsor read they ask John to review a toaster or stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/520">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► John what is this week's toaster and a weird one this week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► Because I have never heard of this brand to before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► and I think this is the first well we've ever had of this brand you guys can tell me this is a rose will all one word.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/541">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► No capital W. This is the R H T's hero I guess it's got to be a no. R H T O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/547">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► Yes it is a no hyphen one three zero zero one. Another name with was in zero then it. But they stare separated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/554">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► Haven't. This is. I think the biggest toaster. I've ever tested. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/562">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► It is really really big it is bigger in all dimensions than what I thought was my pretty big Breville success the Xcel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/567">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► toaster. They sell to Newegg. I don't know where cover and they disapprove of my house and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/575">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► I don't understand why it's all tall it is the tallest host I've ever seen in my life it is taller than any host of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/584">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► everything a store is taller than the really big gravels top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► Like I don't understand why it's so tall the manual to come to this very thin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/592">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► It doesn't give any reason for to be so darn tall and it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► You would think like I was you so you can fit an entire chicken in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► Like vertically maybe like one would all like. I think the proportions of all the other toasters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/605">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► Like if you have a chicken. That is too tall to fit in one of those houses I tested. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► It's not going to fit lengthwise you know like the proportions. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► It's inexplicably tall and it just dominates the counter that it's on. I thought the first word thing about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/619">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► Some standard things about it it's another three now poster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► Three knobs that all have to be in the right position for anything to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► You've got a temperature knob on top that goes from zero to four fifty although the manual says it has a max setting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/631">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► doesn't just stop of or has any way turn all that of the right. Then you've got a function knob. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► With toast on one ended like a warming function the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► and then you've got a timer knob that turn to the right for a little taking timer and turns a lot for the stay on mode. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/644">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► I don't know who decided this three number enjoyment is a good idea but it appears to be the most common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► and it's terrible because it's like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► At all three nouns has been the right position for you to do anything right. And it will gladly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► Like you'll turn little toast not a knob to. You know whatever to try to toast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► If you don't have the other knobs or our position it will gladly just sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► and take away the light side of nothing tells you that it's not actually toasting your bread until you come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/668">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► Why is this bread getting brown or actually in this case for four and a half minutes is about four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/673">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► and a half minutes to tell us which is pretty good considering the cavern that you have to do it like it's so lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/678">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► that this has three professions for the rack and it has a huge shape rack that you can flip over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/685">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► But the you shaped like is allowing a centimeter difference between up and down. Maybe two centimeters anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/690">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► Again what difference is two centimeters up or down make in this giant toast is like a foot tall. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/696">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► I don't understand it's got to UNGUARDED elements in the bottom two. On Guard elements on the top crumb tray. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/701">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► Slides out. Reasonably well. The door. The massive massive door has a weird. Herve to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/708">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► It opens all the way it doesn't feel like it's bending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► or breaking of the whole thing here is that here's the thing that I'm still puzzling over about this toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/716">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► The whole toaster feels like it's not high end so it's not like trying to be shine your glossy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/722">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► or like have the controls feel good but it's not chintzy either like nothing wiggles when it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/729">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► and you know it's like exactly middle of the road. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/734">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► Very sort of straightforward Fisher Price competent every part of it is not loose. But like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/738">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► It just has an air of like competence to it then I don't know I'm associated with this Rosewell brand that I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/745">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► heard of. But it's apparently a new a generic brand. Just please don't you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/751">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► Yeah that makes some sense like a new exile thing where if you buy something for new legs like an off brand like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/756">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► Monoprice you know where it's like. It's not really a name brand but it's also not terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/763">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► I don't know it's very strong so the knobs they feel kind of gritty and a little bit stiff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/769">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► But they don't feel like they're going to fall off in your hands they do their knob. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► Job well they have a little market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► They have little markings on them so you can see where they're pointing they tell like they're just standard knobs they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► don't do any of the terrible mistake the other ones try to do. The door. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► Feels a little bit too big and too loose but it doesn't weigh go it doesn't twist and it's thing it just opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/787">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► I still have the poster is just way too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► and forty five minutes is like the sort of the average a little bit too slow toasted I think is just too long that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/795">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► To wait. But if you like to toast really big things I guess really tall stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/800">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► It doesn't OK job like for a giant toaster like it feels like a waste of space to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/806">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► but I can't find anything terribly wrong with it it in terms of the big toaster to take a long time to toast bread. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/812">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► It seems OK I didn't look at the prices I always forget to look at the price because they just arrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► and I don't know like it's a hundred bucks. Well heart now I've changed my opinion. Not a hundred dollar toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/822">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► Do not buy the toaster for hundred dollars I don't feel like it's like fifty or sixty five hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/829">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► and I would get the smaller Black and Decker three knob thing or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/834">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► Well the hundred dollar price does match up with what you said about how it's kind of in the middle between low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► and high end where you know the high end toasters like you're probably like one hundred eighty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/844">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► And then we've had a lot of good ones that are like forty or fifty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► Yeah but I think I feel like the best fifty dollar one. We had is better than it has just so big and so slow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/852">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► I just like the quality of it was it was like I felt like using a Monoprice toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/858">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► It's not name brand it's not quite right it's a little bit off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/865">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► The plastic a little bit of the WRONG WITH here I'm like for the really long toast I have you're going to use it mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/868">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► for toasting things this is not the toaster for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► It's all black which I think is reasonably tasteful after some of the weirder toasters that we had. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/874">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► Yeah I don't know maybe you see on sale. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/880">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► She had it would dot com for eighty bucks pick it up but really take the measurements first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/883">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► You know going to your kitchen and measured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► and feeling finance your countertop underneath your cabinets because it is huge Do you think maybe this is for somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/890">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► who wants to toast. An entire dozen of bagels at once. Vertically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/898">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► Just acting like you know like well like you have so much space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► but it doesn't give you any like Holder is arranging to use that space that also comes with a circular thing like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/906">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► pizza or whatever which is weird because it doesn't even have much of a bump on the back of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/911">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► And the trays that come with there are also sort of similarly middle of the road it comes with a lot of excess we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/916">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► got the big tray. That's the thing that goes inside the tread and it's got the circle thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/920">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► So no this this is inscrutable I mean I think we'll have to get more of these roses little ones to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► To get the number of this manufacturer but hundred dollars seems the to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► and honestly I don't understand a person maybe a giant person. Maybe like someone who is like an N.B.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/934">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► Player or an N.F.L. Player who's just much bigger than regular people that this is a proportional toaster for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/939">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► And it is by very tall bread I don't know. Thanks a lot the cards against humanity. For sponsoring our show this week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/945">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► Once again. OK so some things have happened today. We are out of August and news is happening once again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/962">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► We have made it through the dark days and now we are back in the light. So there was an apple keynote today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/971">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► And it was a busy one. There was a lot going on how long was it all told like two and a half hours something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/977">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► I mean it's a long and busy keynote and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► So I guess the understanding is that this is the last keynote we're going to see from Apple this calendar year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/986">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► Yeah I think it's interesting I mean you know if you like John Gruber wrist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► Was predicting before hand that you know this doesn't make sense it's too much stuff they always have to have for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/996">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► long time and that was correct. I think one thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► That is very clear from this is that they they didn't want to relegate anything to a secondary keynote and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► One thing that didn't make any appearance at all is El Capitan and anything about the mac. Like the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► Like I think there was like some. Some like Easter eggs somewhere like on a screenshot on one of the demos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► It said that it's coming out on September thirtieth. But that was a that was an e-mail. An e-mail in Federico i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► And he was doing the. I'm already forgot the term but I was doing a quick look for the message and it said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► What's coming out on the thirtieth. P.S. Top secret. Right exactly. So like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► But other than that you know there was really no mention of the Macin today's keynote because honestly there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► room for it. And I think maybe. You know we've we've we keep waiting for sky like. Right and we keep hearing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► Scully is coming soon if you know any time between now and six months from now saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► I think this is kind of confirmation that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► Either we're not going to see any scarlet stuff from Apple for the rest of the year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► Or it will be so minor that will just be like a website update. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► So I wouldn't expect much on the mac front for the rest of the year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► Besides release of a cop autonomy no maybe just maybe this four K. I'M NOT comes out but you know that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► Honestly in this event there was no room for that. The four K. IMAX not a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► It's a it's a mid-range product it isn't a high end product it's barely it's not even really a redesign as far as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► know so you know the mac is conspicuously missing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► but I think that's I think Apple really wanted to give a boost to their other things that aren't the I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► You know they talked a little bit about the watchful eye so that they want to launch the new i Pad Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► and the new Apple T.V. These are major new product launches that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► As far as I know I mean you have to I will have to ask people who like work for big sites far as I know the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► I Phone event every year is always the biggest event audience wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► It seems like way more people watch the i Phone event every year than the other Apple live streams. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► And so if Apple wants to give things the best chance this is like to get a go in between Friends and Seinfeld. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► Like this this is a lot like you know you can put anything in front of the i Phones at this event and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► And it will get a lot of exposure. Even more so than Apple's usual stuff. Because already lot of exposure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► So you know they want they want to give the i Pad program T.V. and The watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► The biggest boost they can leading into the holiday season. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► So it makes sense that they did it this way however I mean I don't know about you guys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► I'm totally overwhelmed by this I don't even know I mean I guess we can just go chronologically but I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► We're not going to cover all this even in one show I mean our podcast to shorten the keynote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► And then cation Lee said Well I think well it had all the highlights I think will come to revisit a lot of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► because again we're every cording was the day that you know it happened I don't know about you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► but I didn't have much time to research all the things he's the keynote ended and you know picking kids up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► You know so this is the same thing we do have to be to resee get overwhelmed with a bunch information see a big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► and then talk about it. So I'm sure. I think we taught them all my notes I think we'll be able to hit all of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► And then towards the end it once we've gone through all that we can get bogged down details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► and fall upon the next week. As for the mac stuff that you're mentioning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► I think it's understandable because the only thing that thing that I could possibly have to announce was Al Capp which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► we've seen a million times before that I don't think there any surprises there. And even if they had a new hardware. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► It would be exactly the kind of thing to get cut for space. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► And they had tons of other stuff and they're only doing one show. Until the stuff gets cut. It's not much of a slight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► Because all they would have been doing is damning things we've already seen. And showing us hardware. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► That does not surprise us and anyway it would be nice you know it's a nice announcement oh look the new Macs are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and here their futures and I wonder what ships they put in then I wonder what the prices are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► but other than that there's nothing like you know. One of the max comes with a pencil or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► You know so that's just. If you just rank things in priority order and kind of it's a two hour mark. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► All the mac related stuff happens to fall off the bottom. Which I think is fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► You know I think the mac got a lot of screen time it doubled every D.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► You know disproportionate to the amount of money that it makes Apple in the amount of Macs that they sell and you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► All out of Russia and everything else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► This was not the show for the max was a shows for the other stuff so I thought it was fine I didn't think the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► Got slighted in any way. Right so let's start with the watch. New Apple Watch stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► Yeah there's some new colors for the Apple Watch. I was actually hugely disappointed that did the rose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► But don't risk old one of the call yet Rose Bowl. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► The pink one that that wasn't a thing when the watch came out because I think Aaron would have loved that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► when I tried to quickly really watch the keynote this afternoon Aaron seemed very unimpressed by it so I'm not sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► she really would have loved it but typically She likes that kind of pain that very like soft pink. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► She loves her pink razor which I think we've talked about in parts in the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► Not to say the pink is only for girls but the girl that I know best happens to really like pink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► and so that's why bring it up. There's the new bands by hermès. Is that right at lives Irma's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1313">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► Yeah you're right you're right. So I was trying really hard to remember but that's OK. I didn't know that before today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► I needed it I would've said Hermes until today. Yeah. So there's new bands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► Clearly not targeted to me because I think the one that wraps double around your wrist looks absolutely ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► and it seems like to be a pain in the butt to put on. So obviously not for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► Pain in the but the put on has no bearing on fashion. That's a true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► Second of all yeah I've been told by my expert wife. That that is very much in fashion right now. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► When you see it did you see the giant cuff for men. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► You see that hundred understand that it's like you're being shackled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► or watch like this watch the strap is not enough to hold to my wrist I need something bigger. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► Yeah I mean this is. This is way beyond our understanding because this is high fashion. And we are not high fashion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► Maybe the blocks bullets. Is that a Wonder Woman reference that is all he goes for to younger that show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► You know well there's that. OK so. New colors new bands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► Brief mention of watch us to I got to say is quick aside I'm really freakin stoked for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► For a custom complications or third party complications I actually I'm intending to write a blog post about this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► and when I ever have a chance to breathe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► But I can think of a handful of apps that I would love to have custom complications for and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► What is the face that has no analog portion to it the modular. Yeah believe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► So the modular face I think it's a fat equally hideous. But if the right set of complications. Came out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► I'm really really stoked for Watch us to have you don't much with overcast for want us to. I look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► I really I don't know if I should say this or not. I literally haven't started. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► Well you're going to have a busy fall I'd say. Yeah. I mean because it's mostly because the more use of the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► And I want to go too far into this now as we've lost we have a lot of us to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► but basically the more I used to watch. The less interested I am in running apps on it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► I really like and I really like the watch and I use it. I use it every day I'm always wearing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► I love the activity tracking I love notifications. I love so much about the watch in reality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► and I don't think I'm alone in that I think this is a very common opinion of it where you know people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► and on about how the watch is going to replay will be for the watch came out people went on about how can replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► Phones and. And I was little skeptical about that and I think my skepticism has proven to be correct that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► I don't think. Watches can replace phones I think anyone who has one of the smart watches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► That it isn't an issue of like oh just a wait a couple of years in the heart will be so much better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► It's literally just like the ergonomics and the. The physical sides of things just don't work out that well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► The watch is really cool for a lot of things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► But being a general purpose at platform isn't one of those things as far as I'm concerned now there are there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► of things that could be done better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► That would improve the situation with Watch us to custom complications I think they're they're making a lot of headway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► into that but I also think that when Apple designed the watch I think they made a bunch of mistakes. With the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► and The software structure and and. I would have made it a lot simpler. Honestly and we thought you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► I don't get too far and as we'll talk about it on another show but I would have basically only the watch face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► Complications and notifications and glances and not have the home screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► Not have apps that are like these navigation hierarchy trees or that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► That are really meant to do anything beyond a few seconds long. So anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► I haven't started work on overcast for the watch in part because it isn't a high priority for me as a user of overcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► That the watch up I have now works OK. When I get a chance I'm going to do. They want us to out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► I I'm not going to tackle trying to play things directly from the watch with no phone nearby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► Anytime soon because I looked into it the B.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► and It's basically stream Lee limited in what you can do it should be challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► and I think honestly it would kind of suck. The reality of. You know movies files back and forth like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► You know how many people do you know. Now with the watch. Who sync music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► Over to it and listen on who had phones while a job like I don't know any but I mean I know you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► and know people want that. But I don't know anybody has actually tried it and has wanted to do it more than once. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► Just because it's so. It's so cumbersome to transfer data back and forth and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► I mean I barely even know enough people who have bluetooth headphones who can even do it all. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► So I've been focused with overcast on streaming streaming streaming and getting to point out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and so I'm working on that. The reality is almost all of overcast customers are using it on an i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1612">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► It's very few of them even have an apple watch. Very few have news on the i Pad. And none of them have an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► So that's where I'm focusing my efforts on the i Phone app right now and once I finish two point zero. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► Then I can branch out to the platforms and start figuring out what might make sense there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► but for now I haven't even talked to where I think well that's surprising put. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► I am curious to see how that goes once you start really digging into the OAS to version and I'm gonna call it oh S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► To forevermore. Because I want to. I mean honestly like. I hardly ever launched the overcast at my watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► I almost never use it. Like that's I think that's that's kind of a problem for me as a developer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► But I I do I hear from people. When I ask people who use the app I hear from then similar things that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► It just isn't as useful as we thought it would be for that kind of role. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► Now for all the other thing like for the things I mentioned. Notifications time stuff. Watch face complications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► Glances. It's. It's very good at those things. Except glances. It's very good at the other parts of those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► If that's all it ever does that still are really nice device for a lot of people myself included I'm still very happy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► If I if it never runs an app in like the typical like you know go back to the honeycomb screen. Find the icon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► Launch the icon do some things in the app. If I never do that again with the watch. I'll be fine with this product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► That's interesting there's not a lot of watch apps that I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► but the ones I use I do quite like I really like fantastical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► I really like this baby connect apps that we're probably not going to be using much longer can stack was getting quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► a bit older now. Dark Sky is good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► Yeah it's about it when I'm traveling there are some others that I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► but that doesn't happen terribly often John what are you are using any third party apps for your watch really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► I don't use an absolute there but I've found myself still forgetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► and being frustrated by the fact that the watch is so much less use hold up the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► Like if I don't have my phone in my pocket under somewhere in my watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► Oh that's right I'm not going to get text messages. I'm not going to see when like. You know something new calendar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► But I guess I'll see the counter as of they think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► But like the communication like that it that it does all communication through the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► and then once you are if you leave your phone your desk and you go to a meeting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► I will not see if my wife text me something. And I forget that that's the case that forget that the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Because you start using it for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► but those roles where it's like you're sort of on the wrist tapping you notice a notification is of things going on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► start to believe that the watch is its own thing you're like I just need my watch I don't need to take my photo my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► pocket but then you're like I don't even need my phone and you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► So I looking forward to seven years from now when it can do all the same things a marker described. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► But not rely on the phone. For all of them and maybe even more than seven years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► Because because for those functions that functionality lot of the times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► That's all I need out of it I don't need to be launching absolute phone or surfing the web I just need to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► and receive phone calls and tax and have an up to date synchronized calendar. And maybe you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► Do some basic lookups of contact information that can all sit on the watch because you'd then you know on the like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► I'm speaking into a Demeter's meeting using the species text or I'm sending audio things to people or I'm doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► Phone calls over the ten you little thing like is just for two seconds. Has room to grow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► and also the things they've done here are getting by sitting around cement as I'm glad to see that they are branching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► out a statically like that they're not going to. You know here's a bunch of watches you can get and then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► You know a year from now are two years from now we'll make the next version the law should be a different fashion like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► they're willing to play with the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► They have you know more colors more styles more a watch faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► and I think if you do even more of that in particular the watch races where they kind of like oh if you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► special band you get the special watch face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► I guess after the for branding purposes but they probably only designs of these. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► I don't know I don't anyway I think that's the next area that needs to open up is watch face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► Third party watch faces because all this type of customization next people feel more of a connection with this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► like there are so many varieties you can get now in so many colors and so many bands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► And I think they should let people have third party watch races well because that is an area like markers like he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► really enthused about making a watch or as happy as he doesn't dance of using apps. But everybody uses the watch face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► And if you were a designer I bet you'd be really jazzed about a chance to make your own watch face. Even you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► So much so that even Marco might make one with like a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► and then move out of the ways you can see the little day complication. You know whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► Like it just seems like a fun thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► and plate of the strength of the watch right now apps are not the strength of the watch but who knows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► With a lot of us to maybe more people will find more apps like a case you found a few I found base of the zero Marcus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1914">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► If want us to after six months of development can get me a marco to have one app that we use all the time that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► a victory for the platform. No think that's fair or anything else about the watch. Will do you do you guys think so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► So obviously the big news the watch today is that they added a ton of bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► and new body color so that they added that you know you know you mentioned that of the. The rose gold sport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► Also the gold sport right was there that's too. Oh yeah you're right. I believe that's right. I think yes so there's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► They just double the number of colors in the sport line for the for the Watch body. Plus they added their meds line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► Plus they have like they have like ten new sport band colors it's this massive number of new colors there it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► more than triple It's like triple the number of sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► and colors that we have plus there's now if they totally remade the classic buckle. Now it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► It looks like a little bit thicker it's two tone leather on the black. And they also added a brown. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► Version which is very nice. Least in the picture so far. They basically just added tons of new watch options. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► Only a few months after the watch was released obviously leading to the holiday season. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► Do you guys think this is a sign that they are little bit desperate to boost the sales of the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► No I think they're just hitting their production ramp like it was supply constrained in the beginning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► And now they have the capacity and it worked out the manufacturing as they can just are branching out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► and with any fashion accessory you want to have more variety is like in the beginning for the launch. As just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► You have to necessarily keep things somewhat narrow and now they can branch out in all be of more variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► and I think it's really just about people who like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► When the big rush to get the watches like oh I don't know that's any good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► I'm not going to bought I want to fight the crowds now you'll be able to get one of the holidays is coming up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► If you are interested in a watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► You know maybe look at the previous models and you didn't want to deal with a rush and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► None of them really appealed to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► And now you're casually wander into a store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► and you should be struck by the fact that oh I didn't like any of those ones that I saw pictures of before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► but I would like this color with this thing like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► It's a it's a good timing for them for the holidays to just have more variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► and I don't think it's a desperation thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► Because like the product hasn't changed the same watch it always was all they're doing is giving people more variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► and. And I and coincides nicely with Watch us to which you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► Regular people don't know the difference and watch us one and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► or whatever like this this watch for this holiday season in this variety. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► As far as the casual public who has been who had been dismissing the Apple Watch as concerned. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► This is how the law Blodgett always has been. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► And they'll take an interest in it and they'll think this is how the watch was from day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► but it's not so I think they're just getting a product line that's more appropriate for the holidays. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► Yeah I think it could be indicative of trouble in paradise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► but I do agree with John that I think it's just that they're hitting their production. Production ramp. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► And just getting their feet under them so to speak so I'm not too worried yet. And also the watch just all phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► You can't get one of these unless you have an i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► and so it's never it's not going to be like oh we gotta worry about watches it's always going to be a subset of i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► and in the beginning it's going to be really small subset so it's not as if Apple was expecting the watch to be a breakout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► probably that's what I said before the very least to watch we're not going to break out the numbers for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► and everything. Because I know like. It's not going to be begin to beginning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► It's always going to be until they break free of the i Phone if they ever do. Like I said seven years now or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► But it's something they want to do this. No one has really said this. But in the wake of the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► Thing you could kind of consider Apple Watch their new hobby. That's interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► We don't we have we don't know the numbers you can't say like number was it is or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► but it looks a lot like a hobby doesn't it's like it's a cool excess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► or really you can get for the phone which is their meat and potatoes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► And you do lots of fun interesting stuff with it and you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► Don't break out the numbers for people and it's not as if there's any sort of platform that lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► or dies based on the sales of the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► or anything like it seems hobbyist to me I don't know maybe I'm totally wrong like in son. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► The people who know the real numbers urban like back solve for them like or if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► or whatever can tell me that they sold our watches that are twenty four hours a lot of all tv's ever sold which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► probably true. And the watch. The margins got to be much better than the Apple T.V. So it could be you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► but it strikes me as because it is a subordinate product because it is basically of the world's fancy as i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► accessory. And it's still not even seem everyone only weird people had i Phones or had smartphones at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► That's the stage Avelox that now. Like when. When the i Phone was never at that stage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► It was one when the first i Phone came out and I was like six hundred dollars or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► Like only weird people had i Phones. There was a lot like if you look at the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► The little ramp of like how many took him a lot of number of i Phones sold. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► It started out pretty slow the just like the people who really believed in people wanted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► but it seems expensive because there was no. Every other phone didn't look like the i Phone at that point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► And smart watches I still think you're in that early phase so I'm willing to give the watch a pretty long time to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► through its three G. Three G.S. Four face before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► The rest of the world starts to wake up and look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► and they then it will get out of the realm of potentially hobby products for Apple. Yeah. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► I honestly I have a little bit of worry here for the Apple Watch. Only because it does seem like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► I can't imagine they were planning all along to launch all these things this fall for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► Like all these all these new hardware for ideas so soon after the launch of the first watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► But it just is just color changes like they made a bunch of plastic bands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► And now they can make the plastic in different colors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► And the like the analyze stuff like that already doing it for the phone they already have the processes probably does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► it like it's very straightforward stuff. And it just it just seems to me that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► and you know there's a reason not to do it on launch which is you really have to concentrate on a few models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► and get the kinks worked out or whatever but once you've got all the kinks worked out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► You're not designing a new watch the same all watch just color stuff differently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► And it's so easy to do and make people happy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► And if you have enough manufacturing amatory to make sure you always have the one in the color in the size. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► The people want. Why would you not do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► The most obvious answer to me is why not wait until version to do some of these things like you know they don't do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► and way bigger volume is very important the company makes them way more money out of them as much a fashion accessory I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► think one of the watch who comes out. It will be Rican strain to a similar set of styles and colors again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► And then it will do the exact same thing where the the watch to like assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► or do like it to Sri with the next watch that is different a different shape and size right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► Will have a limited set of colors similar limited to the first one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► And then will branch out again because I just don't think you can launch a brand new product in this in this variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► colors and sizes and shapes. Finishes and bands and all those stuff. I don't I mean there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► There is the there is the possibility so when when Tim Cook on the on the last earnings call. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► Said that the Apple Watch is selling well. And there was this report. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► A couple days before that from some survey company that said there was a huge buy computers and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► and then it dropped and then it was not selling well anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► What he said did not actually contradict that report because what he said was counting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► when they ship to customers. Not when they are ordered by customers. And so if what he said what he said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► Could have been true a while that report was also true. So this could all still be the case where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► What he said you know back then it was selling well the you know. It was selling by like stock. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► Inventory standards of like when it ships that's when it's charges when it's all the time but the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► That's only but the revenue. OK so now leading into the holiday quarter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► You know another quarter's Coming up he's going to. You know if it isn't selling well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► They're going to have to explain why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► Because someone's got you know the people going to look at these numbers are going to figure out in this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► This other category. Okkar app this is kind of bad and me hopefully the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► Isn't there to help boost it up there. What if this and again. This might be the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► This is this is the cynical take on this right. Or the skeptical take on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► What if all these new bans and everything are not only an attempt to use new watch sales. Earlier than they planned. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► But also an attempt to get more money sooner out of existing watch owners who are buying additional bands just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► to use the watch quarter numbers for you know in the short term. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► Just to get them until a future point where they think that the sales will make up for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► When I don't know how many extra bands are going to sell to existing watch owners I feel like it's the same room with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► the original i Phone your. I Phone came out. Everyone who wanted one got one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► Than a bunch of other people just stood back and watch for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► and this has the advantage of the holidays whereas I get the watch came out everyone who wanted to watch got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► everyone else has sat back and watch curiously have this whole watch thing. And the holidays come along it's like well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► I mean that's the. You know the type thing well by somebody something they wouldn't buy from selves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► Someone might have been curious about the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► but they're not going to spend the money they don't know if it's a baby they don't even know if they're going to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► when someone will get a form of the gift. That's what the holidays do. That's why holidays big shopping season so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► And people who are considering watches or wanted as a gift for themselves are but like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► I think it will still be a small thing because I think of how many people how many people own in the entire world ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► own the i Phone one super small number this is the i Phone one this is the first watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► Just a different bands and different colors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► So I don't expect there to be a huge number of people who have this watch of the products going to be successful we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► have to look forward to a fourth that aeration of this. And then see. And again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► It's always going to be kept by the number of i Phones are you looking at is what is what makes this is such a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► what percentage of i Phone owners have to buy an Apple Watch for it to be a successful product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► One percent two percent ten percent. I think now it is much less than one percent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► And I think that's just to be expected. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► So I'm not worried about the Apple Watch I don't think them because wherever they have a lot of special events. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2514">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Tech wise a manufacturing was like their investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► and what they've done so far they can cruise for a few years making progress with a slightly better iterations of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► watch without breaking the bank I'm sure they've already made back their money that they invested in developing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► I don't think they're worried about that I think they're willing to just continue to chase category wherever it leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► Yeah that's fair also one more thing I think one of the reasons I might have been doing this also is that you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► When compared to other smart watch vendors out there. Apple already had I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► Way more options for bands colors and sizes and materials. There anyone else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► And now they've really taken a massive lead on that like you know they already had a lead now it's a way wider lead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► Where competitively. If you look at the Samsung Galaxy S. Whatever. Versus the L.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► Whatever versus the Motorola two seventy whatever. Then Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► Like anyone who's actually comparing these have a side which I don't think honestly is a big number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► but anyone actually compare them side by side would would be blown away by just how many choices they have from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► side. And it's more likely that they can find some they like an Apple side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► And they're staking out the hydra like Apple always want the most profitable section of any business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► and so the way you do that in anything that's remotely related to fashion is make sure you're the one that seen as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► like oh we. We are partnering with this. This sashing company whose name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► Regular people can't pronounce it or never heard. Samsung isn't right or like their. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► Apple is trying to make sure that when all the dust settles. When someone thinks of. What is that fancy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► Smart Watch that all the fashion. People are into that the answer to that is Apple. And so they're like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► That's why they're doing you know that's why they have the really super expensive gold one that's why they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► these partnerships with these fashion companies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► Regular people don't care but no one's going to buy those who breaks the like but it's all for positioning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► So they end up with the most profitable customers they end up with the one with the most cache with the one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2632">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► Even after everybody has like the i Phone or on the i Phone was a status symbol excell ever do have an i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► Now nobody cares everybody has an i Phone or some phone it's not a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► I think what they're doing with the fashion partnerships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► and stuff is trying to make sure that even after everybody has a smart watch five years now known care is not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► deal may come in cereal boxes that. Through these silly part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► The ships where someone sells us travel weather for a thousand dollars because it's got a particular name on it that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► That is still seeing in the same way the regular fashion is who cares about the issues or this dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► or whatever like fashion. Is always going to be a status symbol and it's not tied to technology is tied to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► You know the you know. Exclusivity and who's got buzz and what's in style and Apple's is trying to stay on top of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► Of their. They seem so much more dedicated to it than everyone else is buying smart watches right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2686">TS</a>]
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00:47:19 ◼ ► Federica teaches time has come. The i Pad Pro. I believe I heard screaming from the mountain tops of Italy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► When this was finally announced. I am really intrigued by it. There is no damn way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► I'm going to carry around a thirteen inch i Pad as someone who actually prefers an i Pad mini. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2854">TS</a>]
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00:47:49 ◼ ► It's a remakes of paper. The paper app it's a remake of remakes of the paper pencil and it's a remakes of the surface. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► But we have in the show notes they and I next so I assume John you'd like to start by talking about that really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2876">TS</a>]
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00:48:15 ◼ ► We were accustomed to on the desktop and laptop. Years ago and now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► The low power tablet and phone chips are falling the same trajectory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► and I think we're a lot of regular people are wondering like. Why is the i Phone. And i Pad C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► Like getting twice as fast every year. But my mac book C.P.U. Does not get twice as fast there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► And the answer is that the. I Phone the i Pad He views are playing catch up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► They start out way way WAY slower than your math book. And they're catching up to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► Once they do catch up with it they will not be doubling anymore. Like there's no magic. Here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► There's a little a potentially a little bit of a vanity of Apple controlling all the stuff now something we get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► on another show. Related to that they will talk about but that's why they're doubling. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► Apple continues to put out the grass like look how much faster are C.B. Use in G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► Use have gotten in our i Pad and it is impressive like they're the G.P.U... [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► They are better and you know like twenty two X. C.P.U. Increase and three sixty X. G.P.U. Speed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► Like that's the magic of that graph like hell because if you don't like what the axes are labeled look how slow was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► Yes So anyway. They're still getting faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► The interesting thing that Apple didn't compare the i Pad Pro to and didn't compare the A nine X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► Two at all with any of its own laptops ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► This point I feel like this thing has to be faster than at least some laptops that Apple sells bunch you think like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► or Some kind of synthetic benchmark that you come up with that this thing is going to be faster than like an eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► and share or something. Well and also I mean compare it to its most obvious alternative the math book one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► I mean I would guess it has to be faster than the math book want certain that might be a horse race depending on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► you're testing maybe an injury B.S.P. I don't know but anyway. That aspect of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► Certainly fulfill the pro aspartame that it was pretty darn fast anyway and they know it accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► and I next like this is. This is a worthy processor I think for the i Pad Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► Is it the first one that would have been powerful off because here is a two things about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► They're pushing so many more pixels remember what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► when we went first one reading on the i Pad It was a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► On this thing I mean it's already read as just a bigger screen and they're pushing more pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► and they keep talking about oh we can have this many four K. Video screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► Stream stuff like that you have to have a pretty beefy G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► In there just to do basic things with this many pixels look at what happened with the i Phone six Plus where it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► like it was a little bit under powered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► And they had like the weird double sized screen that they shrink down to fit in the number of pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► and stuff I'm hoping they have voided all those compromises with this thing just because they have so much more room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► do everything in here so the C.P.U. G.P.U. Part. Definitely seems pro to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► Yeah I mean there's a lot about this to me this is a very confusing product honestly and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► It's probably just because it's not for me. I really don't think this is for me. And I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► I honestly I'm not sure I don't know about who it is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► but I'm sure I'm sure a lot people will be very happy about it. It's just not you know. Not me in the people I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► If you can permit me to talk about the physical parts for a minute. It's massive. And it's heavy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► It weighs more than the i Pad want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► And it's larger than the macro going you mean sorry no no no I mean the i Pad want it weighs less than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► but one with the keyboard thing. Maybe I didn't look at that. So LS also it's a big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► It's a bigger screen and ethical and it is a twelve point nine epic want to take this twelve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► That's what I'm getting at like this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► This is not like this is a going international terror that exactly what makes it and I have a pro it's not like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► Well I would bring a lot but I want something smaller saw about the i Pad price like Tim said on the state. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► I think is I went with like he realises for the millionth time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► As I've said on past those as well that the i Pad is the future of computing as far as Apple's concerned they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► pressured by their inability to make it happen. But they really believe that that this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► This kind of platform is the future of computing not a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► Not a continuous slow steady evolution of playing all desktop computers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► And they haven't proved that any to the market or to the customers. But finally they're making forward progress again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► After many many years are just making differently sized but usually boring very large phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► So they keep the keyboard the stylus that we get to with it's not a stylus It's a pencil. And all the other things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► Shows the family moving in that direction. Again. Are they right I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► But you have to you have to see this thing through like if you if you really believe that this is the way that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► people will be doing most of the things they do with computers in the future than you have to make products that prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► it and so this is the first attempt this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► You know as you talk about a couple weeks ago I think this is going to face a lot of the same challenges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► It is going to be tough because where i Pads have have been strong before things like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► You know casual reading in bed or. You know couch used in public that for a lot of those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► This is actually going to be uncomfortably large and heavy now for a lot of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► It's actually taking a step backwards in some of those areas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► In order to achieve the big screen and everything else and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► I don't you know I don't think they could have done a lot better with that I think this is just the physical realities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► of a device that has a screen as large. So there's going to be some challenges there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► But also you know ergonomically obviously this is made to be used with the keyboard. Probably frequently. I would say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► I don't know about that because because it has the didn't they emphasize the full size onscreen keyboard as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► Well they get to give it a couple seconds but I know also the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► That's appease a fall the risk of this week with someone saying that I think it was a teacher saying the students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► prefer the onscreen keyboard. Because digital He boards don't have the same sort of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► I think you're saying they don't have the same sort of autocomplete type stuff whatever I like I think a generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► people who grew up tapping on glass to type. It may not be that crazy of they would prefer the onscreen keyboard this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► You're getting to know that like the physical things you're talking about the room will talk about as an amber like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► Whether I'm going to buy I want to whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► Even though I've been so gung ho for that I've had for I think this is a great product and less going to be you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► Artists and other people who really need a big screen and want the pencil in everything or are an app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► People write applications for those people getting their first real shot to sell perhaps to pro people using pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► hardware. It's still kind of two things in one here. Two things are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► First make a bigger i Pad So people don't feel so constrained give it you know for the people who want to big screen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► do things you need more pixels in a more detail. And with a position pointing device. And second. Let the i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► Do more complicated things with the keyboard with a split screen or whatever and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► In this product they're tied together. It's a gargantuan. It's way too big for most people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► It's not going to well because it's just too darn big like Margaret said. But all the features that are in this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► If you put them on. The i Pad air to size device. Equally valuable to people who like that size device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► And I think you can shrink even all of them down maybe to the many of you make it a little bit bigger except for maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► the keyboard like I feel like everything that is staked out by this product all the functionality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► Even a little side port thing. And all the oh S. Features and all the software that going to be written to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► That is all valuable its size is less than gargantuan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► Unfortunately this first product or fortunately for the orange that. This is gargantuan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► Plus all the fancy features and I think every single one of the saints if you just can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► and should trickle down to the extent possible out by the sizes I think that will eventually solve most of the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► that you're talking about Marco because I agree with you. The thing is really big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► I want to i Pad Pro I want this product. I don't know if it's too big for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► I don't know but I guess I got this I would like then I need a smaller i Pad for my other I think you know me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► and the weight I mean I'm using I've had three now which is massive anyway but I'm going to try to out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► but you have this is the right move I think is is staking out the high end it's like of Anyways going to proceed to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► pro pro pro. Big big big pencil thing fine arts. Keyboard people on the go. Doing typing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► Go to the Microsoft service thing this is. This is huge this is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► You know is clearly pushing in the high end type of product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► But I really really hope they don't year after year rev the i Pad Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► and keep all these features of the big one because I want all these and all the i Pads. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► To the extent possible. Yeah I agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► You know I was thinking that I would really kind of like to have a keyboard cover for my i Pad mini. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► Which kind of disgusted maybe trust me you don't you know I kind of disgust me because I realize that's a terrible idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► but that was my gut reaction was me and I'll be kind of convenient for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► when I'm traveling because occasionally I'll travel and not want to bring a fifteen inch MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► but want something that. That I can type on to like write e-mails or something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► And so occasionally when I travel all bring my many. And my apple wireless keyboard which. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► If I really think that's true is kind of think that's true is kind of ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► but that's occasionally what happens and so I agree with you John that having something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► Having a lot of these features for even the smaller devices. I think that's fairly compelling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► It or even like the split screen stuff which there is confining possibly for C.P. Reasons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► Possibly for RAM reasons like just everything about the you know it still to gigs of ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► I think that but I don't know if that's been a determined but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► The fact that you should just be the heir to that two gigs of ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► And that that that extra RAM really makes the existing boring pre-i us nine I like six grand so much better to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► to crap isn't all gone when you switch applications like those type of hardware based compromises. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► We're going to leave on the high end first. They're going to you know this. C.P.U. and G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► Can be faster and hotter and bigger and I could put a huge battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► and here in this can have a lot of them of the most pixels and it can handle the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► Whatever they're doing for the pencil stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► and it like all those things should trickle down as Eventually the i Pad to i Pad air to class she can also handle all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► of that and eventually the mini class machine can handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► and maybe many will get a little bigger maybe the keyboard will be bigger than the device because you can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► keyboard that small because it's insane. And I think the most exciting thing about it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► Well I would say the most exciting thing is that ition of a rotation lock button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► but I don't think that's their fact that Apple actually went in the opposite direction for once instead of slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► removing every possible button from a device. They added a new thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► They added It's not really a port kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► but they added three little buttons on the bottom that the new connector on it's like that is a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► You know that's a pro feature. You can to connect. Other stuff to the thing with the thing that you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► Baby steps here right that didn't add U.S.B. Ports right to know as the card slot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► But if this is the future of computing. They have to eventually figure out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► In what ways are we going to allow this to be expanded in hardware accessorize if you let it be expanded everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► that a P.C. Be it can be expanded you just read repeating the centers of the past and just recreating the P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► In a different form. And I don't think Avalon's to do that so they're being cautious but I like seeing them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► Move in that direction I like this not just being a Bluetooth accessory right. Why is that why is it not Bluetooth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► Because the Bluetooth excess risk raptor the boots a thing as they have batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► and you've got Bluetooth like you know it's not like this. But not to worry about that it's powered by the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► We have a giant battery in there you know we don't we can make the cover itself then are also looking like a hunchback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► when you close it is like that kind of one and then kind of gross. Anyway. Generation one product I you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► But I am excited I was there was most exciting part of the Reveal thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► and they showed three little dots on the side and like that to Newport. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► That's that insured issue like which is this point I guess I just wasn't enough room along the edge of the device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► they needed room for those giant antechambers around the four speakers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► One of the big things about this I think besides. You know the size obviously I'll keep harping on forever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► The price is interesting you know if you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► when you look at how this is positioned how other i Pads were position before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► and now how does addition against their other laptops. This is. This is really a laptop replacement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► You know not a law. Some people obviously you know. Idiots like me will buy them and you know use them as like toys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► That also have every other kind of device but I really think like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► Most people are not going to be spending a thousand dollars on a tablet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► That is not going to replace a laptop you know that for to be this big. And this expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► It has to replace laptops for most of his customers I would say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► And maybe that proves to be wrong who knows but that's probably how it's going to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► I would also expect a much more laptop like replacement cycle although I think we're seeing that in most i Pads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► actually. So the big thing to me is software wise. Are there are a lot of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► I know I know this is not going to be all. But are there a lot of people over for whom this can replace a laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► Better than any other i Pad you know obviously some people get by with the other i Pad just fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► The people who couldn't. How many of them will this be good enough for where the other i Pads weren't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► I'm thinking of the replacing a desktop for the first customers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► Because it's going to I'm thinking again of the pencil jammer talker that much but like that the type. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► What's the first the chicken egg things you need to hire before you make the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► but what is the easiest market for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► If you're going to sell an expensive application that cost a lot of money to develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► and you're not going to sell a lot of copies but you're going to sell them for a lot of money like. And these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► You know ninety nine dollars. It's an application. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► It's and a designer art application that let somebody use a thing and the pencil. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► Assuming it works as advertised and it's all impressive and great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► and everything to do their main function like their actual work not on the go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► But at their desk at their job like this is a little of a miniature stinted and I know most people would say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► Like for example someone who's using the service to do that today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► That's great and all but if it doesn't run Photoshop it's pointless to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► Because what am I going to use that stylus for and if you use my service I'm going to run Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► and I'm gonna get my work done is that's when I need to get my work done so Apple does have a huge software gap here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► but. The history of the i Pad leading up to this has been. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► If Apple doesn't make for a harbor no one's going to make pro sophomore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► and everyone's waiting for someone to go over so I go in first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► And I think Apple is desperately hoping that somebody probably not Adobe is going to try to be the Photoshop of the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► and get people to use this thing for that as their actual computer at their desk at their work as like a desktop replacement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► And check Twitter and have a little youtube video playing in the corner and listen to music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► And also be scribbling away with your hundred dollar. Johnny I have blessed. Pure white Apple pencil. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► That I think is the vision for this product is not a reality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► We're going to be by this thing there's no have location you can buy to do that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► but you know Apple wants there to be in the short Autocad knowledge of things so I'm I'm hopeful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3773">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► But I and I see where this product can go. But I spect like market I spike knowledge of people to buy this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► I say people to buy it and be bewildered by it. And I just hope that everything in this product embodies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► More power more RAM more ports. Slowly spreads to the rest of the i Pad line because that will finally. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► That will finally differentiate what is the difference tree and i Pad and i Phone as an i Pad just a big i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► This is not a big i Phone This is like the farthest thing from a big i Phone ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► So good US Apple for doing this and I hope the next few years is as encouraging as. As announcement is to me and to T.J. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► Maybe five other people are going to so what do we think about this. This pencil. I do feel bad for the folks said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► What is it fifty three. Yeah. That. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► There's been a lot of Sherlock in going on in that direction but well look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► when you choose a really generic name for your product like you know. You run the risk like this. Oh absolutely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► I was expecting to be very blah say about the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► and again it doesn't really speak to me because I don't do the sorts of things that that would require a stylist arable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► artist I can imagine what else I would need it for however. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► I thought it was a very clever piece of hardware I like that you can tilt it to get like a kind of side of a pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► stroke which I guess it just occurred to me that's what they called a pencil not a pen or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► but I like to do that to please don't email this sort of. But. But I like you can do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► Obviously the pressure sensitivity I think we all saw that coming. It's a very clever piece of kit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► I wish there was something that spoke to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► but there's nothing that speaks to me yet I think it will be fun for here's the here's where it helps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► If you're not someone who is a designer or a fine artist or someone or just noodle around and sketches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► and by the way she was given as for tough biggest So love it to do her Lord Sacks things with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► I was asking her you know I was she was she was interested in a larger i Pad for video and game use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► And once she saw the event which we watched event you gather. She now says she's no longer interested it's too big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► Yeah buts and the style a stylus is a perfect example of something that can fit perfectly well and i Pad Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► or many even like no problem on a mini because I think doesn't fit inside the i Pad It's just an accessory it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► that. All those things don't have the screen for it so given the year after that stuff's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► This is one of those things like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► I have no opinion on the stylus because I have never been a paper and pencil or paper and pen person for anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► I'm not a graphic artist at all in any sense. I'm not a note taker. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► But I was getting it for the old fogies thing like setting aside all the people this is actually aimed at the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► kind of persons can appeal to we all know people like this are like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► Usually older people who are actually more comfortable taking notes on their own handwriting which seems you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► Totally ridiculous to those of us who grew up being excited by the fact that we can press a key on a keyboard in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► perfect letter A appears. And we don't have to be subject to our own handwriting right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► Like that's that is the dream of these people like you know what I would rather do my shopping list in my own little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► scrawl. And they just want to know that location lets them right things and they want to do with their little pen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► I mean we've all seen people use like the galaxy note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► and some people using very large phones with a saw some people just like my my own mother has used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► I've seen her do it. And i Pod Touch the small one where the stylus. Oh yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► I've seen some family members use styli their phones because they just prefer it. I think it's insane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► But that's what they prefer and so they're not going to buy a thousand dollar i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► or whatever again it's a trickle down thing years. Eventuality. When this stuff gets spread down the product line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► You know. Well they ever sell an apple pencil for the i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► Probably not but if they did my mother would use it today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► Yeah I mean there is no question I think there's a lot of people who want to use us as and I'm not one of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► However you know I disagree John that no taking is mostly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► Mostly or only for old people I think there's there's a lot of kinds of note taking kind of wish you well know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► I think there's a lot of kind of know taking for which I would prefer ape. A pen. To to a keyboard and mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► You know if you. If you're trying to dictate what somebody is saying. Then yeah. Keyboard is the is the way to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► But for so many other kinds of note taking brainstorming anything. Design like this so many things like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► That's like wire framing like you I've obviously it's better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► Right but really you would actually write down text with it. Well it depends like like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► When I am my limited time trying to take notes as a as the terrible student that I was in college. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► I never even tried in high school in college the terrible time I tried. Like math. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► I would definitely take math No it's using a pet not a keyboard. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4076">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► And I could I thought the typing you got to do like practically drawing right sort of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► And there's even computer science I think I would probably like. There are so many like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► No taking to me is different from just transcribing what somebody is saying you know that's so you do not know taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► is not. Not typing but like you like to see people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► When they have conference talks don't try to like summarize the conference talk as it's going to draw a little picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► as and put words in the you know. It's a multimedia thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► Like you know I see what you're getting out of though I think you probably have better handwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► and idea because I feel like when Texas involved it all like I need to eat up Martha feature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► I needed to turn my scrawl into actual readable text so I never have to see my handwriting again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► And I don't think we did they mention any and regular and him any recognition at all I don't think they did they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► and it's in no US ten right now. If you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► If you hook up a tablet you can go use it and it is still basically eat up Martha caliber. So you know baby steps like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► This is not what this is aimed at it wasn't even mentioned I probably not even in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► but many years from now kind of like speech attacks and text to speech eventually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► It just gets good enough that it's like why not at every turn around recognition is not at that stage yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► and I think they showed it in the Microsoft thing like people who are familiar with the Newton are like oh sod draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► rough shape in a makes a nice ship for me where have I seen that before. Like that is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► This is not a new technology but it still feels like magic to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► when he draws a little scrawl of an arrow in the office application of becomes the little thing it draws a circles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► It's kind of the bad kind of magic in the can never tell really what it's going to do and have time doesn't work. But. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► That's a glimpse of the magic future that someday if that worked as reliable as speech attacks us now I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► I could never imagine that speech Texas be so boring that we just like Did anyone see Vo get Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► In a little bit like that the Apple T.V. Series demo and like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► There's no way it's going to understand my voice like that we will use Siri. Like it's like great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► But it is complete magic by that by the stand just like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► A kid of the eighty's like winter like imagine if just like every device with any amount of computing power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► Like you can talk to it your watch for crying out loud. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► You can talk to it and it will do a passable job of figure out what you said and putting it in text that is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► and that is the magic of like the cost of that feature going down to zero. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► Handwriting recognition should also get to the stage eventuality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► People who use Microsoft products may say it's already there because they have this thing where it will let you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► in your own little chicken scratch handwriting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► But under the covers translated into text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► but leave your chicken scratch there so that it knows what you wrote so you can full tech surge what like it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► I feel like that is flakier then speech or text is an MO spot from these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► but it's close I think we're at the cusp so again maybe three revisions from now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► The new version of the note that location in the suddenly caught I was I think what the new name is going to be in i OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► version. Thirteen or fourteen is like and the new words in the note that location. Lets you write with the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► And it will also do full text search and they'll do a demo of it and it will be like Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► or that five years ago what are you doing Apple but everyone will love it because it will be all white. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► So that's another. Another thing to quickly point out here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► You know normally the people who are not Apple fans people who are really fans of other platforms whether it's Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► or Android or both. Let's face it nobody has legs anymore. Usually every Apple event. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► There's like a couple of things where those people get really mad about because Apple did something that you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► copied someone else or they did something that a people of done before. This. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► Maybe this is kids are so many things announced here but this event. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► Seems like there was a higher than normal percentage of those of those things that. But. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► But all of them the Newton did first like you know sure Microsoft service did it first right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► and even the new owners like well then what about the grid pad like you just keep going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► and Tyrone's on these things before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► We don't care who did it we care who did best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► or did it in a way that was convincing to people we don't know it is going to be convincing like people who use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► service as we've heard from them. Love their service but they're not selling a lot of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► I don't think they're going to sell a lot of these pros either but I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► Because Apple does sell a ton of violence devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► And people do want to use a pencil like thing with I was devices that Apple has the potential to sell more of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► silly. Hundred dollars price goes down pencil things and the next five years. Than Microsoft us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► You know I agree with you Marco that a lot of this felt like everything is a remakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► and to build on what John just said we should probably talk about pricing and then move on to some of the stuff Makino. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► Starting at eight hundred dollars for thirty two gigs. Yeah. Thirty two gigs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► Nine hundred fifty four hundred twenty eight interesting Lee. The only option for Y. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► Five plus Cellular is the one thousand eight hundred dollar. One hundred twenty eight gig. I Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► I thought that somewhat surprising because for all the other i Pads. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► You can get so you later on any size you want but for this if you want cellular you're going whole hog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► and that's the end of the meeting I think. I think my i Pad three was close to thousand dollars like all the and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► So like I'm looking at these prices maybe I'm crazy but I'm looking these prices and thinking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► You know what for a thirteen inch staying with for you. Thirteen inch. I was device with four gigs of ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► That's not quite that doesn't seem crazy to me like I feel like I'm getting my money's worth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► I'm getting a lot of pixels are getting a lot of power I'm getting new features of the other devices don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► and it's quote unquote only a thousand dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► That start I would rather have this than I have and i Pad and MacBook Air of an inch. I don't know about you guys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► Yeah I mean it depends I mean it's you know like Price wise it is expensive compared mean you're right like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► and I have had before if you if you got the max config before of the full size i Pad It was always nine twenty nine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4431">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► I think the average selling price of i Pads I think has gone down I think we had even have numbers for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► Oh yeah that they've been dropping the price but like I said I get people offered you someone came to your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► I will either give you a new decked out of Lebanon share our new decked out i Pad Pro I know you don't want to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► these devices but which one did you going to get it for free. Pick one of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► Wouldn't you all pick the i Pad Pro just because it's the most it's more interesting. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► Probably but but but we're not normal I don't know I mean it's certainly cooler. It's certainly and first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► It's certainly more specialized that's the problem I mentioned last last episode the one before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► How I was I was kind of disappointed that a lot of Apple's products keep getting more specialized and that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► It used to answer the question of who is this for. For most of their products and the like you know five years ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► The answer so that we're very broad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► Where as you could you almost everybody could use almost any of their of their computers for almost any purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► and it would work pretty well you know like they were the definitions for more progress now I think we're seeing a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► more. Specialization from Apple products and by nature that is exclusionary It's not like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► This is it's not it's not exclusionary though it is it is making more different products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► or more different people instead of saying we make three computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► and the entire world is going to pick one of our three computers I like some people don't even want to computers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► Some people on a phone some people on a small phone so they want to big boned some people on a tablet so they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► small tablets and we want to big that was a lot of time. All the stylist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► So each individual product is more narrowly focused you're right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► But I think they're covering more of the spectrum this is just you know it's the whole as the cost of compute drops to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► zero like that becomes less of a factor and just like. What are the needs of the customers and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► How can we need them with lots of different products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► Nobody needs all these products at the same thing with the big phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► Some people just wanted a big phone some people have a big phone like you know what I don't need a P.C. or Laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► Everything I do is fine I'm a big phone I do all my web browsing out all my buying it all my things I watch my Netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► on it. I don't need a computer anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► Is that mean that you know that phone is for fewer people than the laptop on the end of because you just told everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► a P.C. and It was this just general purpose thing you can do everything on a P.C. That will you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► Suit everyone's needs that some people would rather just have a really big honkin phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► And so I think this is this diversification is natural. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► Like are you uncomfortable because you feel like any individual product now has a narrow range of people that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► appeals to when you still would rather than make a small under products that appeal to a wider range of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► Well OK So limit. Stepping back I think. I agree with you you're right. This is not exclusionary. So you're right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► You know having more products that covers more of the market. That's that's a good thing. You know for inclusion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► However. I have to worry here number one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► I do worry that Apple is very much a fan of pushing things forward and killing old things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► or ending support for old things. And so if I see them launching major products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► In a direction that is really at odds with my own needs. I get worried from from that point of view that the things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► Serve my needs are going to be ended at some point if you're so anyway. Besides that though. I do think there is a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► I think they have a severe problem right now. Of that their product lines are just really big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► There are so many different models of everything there's so many little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► and big variations that you can order with any product line they had it there are so many product lines now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► So this has a number of challenges the one of them obviously is that they are stretching their resources really thin a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► lot of areas especially things like engineering and quality. They stress you things very very thin. There. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► They don't have as big of a staff. As everyone would assume a company of that financial resource would have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► And they really I mean it seems like they're there they're like waging a war on all fronts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► With with relatively small resources so I'm a little worried about that and are getting kind of smart with the sharing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4674">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Because it's kind of like you know the restaurant where they realize everything they serve as a combination of greedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► and it's right there you know they have twenty seven dishes you like wait a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► There's a just reading a dozen greeting be able to Grady and see different combinations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► I think that doing pretty good job of sharing because I mean for a long time they did too much sharing with the i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► really was just so i OS and its device and it's a bigger screen but like be a Caro S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► Darwin the kernel being shared across all their stuff and then up the stack. Objective C. Swift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► The fact that they're you know the MCAS a little bit of the odd man out at these times with everything else kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► like and i O. S. Variant and although they're trying to put a brave face on like you know. T.V. O.-S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► Watch us in the inevitable. Lowercase Macko S which will make me sad that they're giving it to her names but the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► That's that's basically the same I was like it is. They have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► They've done a pretty good job of having a core technology stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► and a core of manufacturing stack we make solid aluminum backed machined things with lithium ion batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4735">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► and screens on the front and can't like how many. It's like wait a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► All these devices are just different combinations of the same things in different sizes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► And even the Macs are kind of you know the Macs are the first ones to be big scenes emailed out blocks of aluminum with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► lithium ion batteries in the keyboards in the dome switches or in the like in the same keyboard covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► and the same keyboard with on all the laptops in that same keyboard on a desktop Maxon like I think they're being like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► I think it's how they can get away with as a being the biggest company the world and having a million Dylan dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► Right and be being smart about. Like sort of working on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► Unlike all their services but they don't seem to work in every structure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► They work in infrastructure of like can we get really good at machining aluminum and polishing and finishing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► If we can do that every read during the watch do it on the desktop Stuart on on the tablets do it on the phone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► on the big phone small like just everywhere right. And little cameras and L.C.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► Screen technology every time they try to get good at something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► It pays dividends across the entire product line so I think hardware wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► They're doing well there software wise you have a point with like the sort of rushing out to get to a platform all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► And construct and that everything else languishes and gets little fidgety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► or whatever so I'm hoping Al Capp is a return to form. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► And I hope they learned their lesson to try to rein things back in T.V.'s had a long time to get super crappy without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► people paying attention to it I'm hoping this is the time when it's like the stored up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► You know sort of potential energy from all those years when Apple T.V. A crappy and crappier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► Now is going to come but it could also be that your rights of the overextend themselves in the new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► Is super flaky and buggy. And it's like what we had all this time for this cell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► None of us have is that I said we can't tell but I think some of your fears are founded but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► when I look at their hardware. Product Design. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► I'm amazed at how much bang they get for their buck in figuring out these few core things and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► Combining the small set of ingredients to make a fairly large variety of products that I that I think has the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► to appeal to more people. Yeah I mean I guess. You can look at it. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► Similarly to like Google is so good at large engineering projects especially things involving big data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► and artificial intelligence type things that like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► You know Google seems to have incredibly wide band with them through put of engineering resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► and so they they can solve problems better than almost anybody else. But that are solvable by tons of engineering work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► Whereas Apple. It seems like you know. Apple's core competency is in making this the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► You know the hardware the it as it just like all these women in the glass things like Apple can solve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► You know challenges in the market and can be more competitive. By throwing massive amounts of this kind of hardware. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► So Apple actually. And also like of the the O.-S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► Dontcha think like the frameworks they're pretty good at that like making sure their software is responsive make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4913">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Trying to share framers across like a B Foundation things across Iowa us in the mac in those same things around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► fallen on the watch like. That is also a good and clever use of resources. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► Once you get to the software you could say oh yeah but their actual obligations crappier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► Yeah but the people writing code against those frameworks are doing a bad job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► but I think in general I can compare to Google Google took a long time to get Android. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► Sort of up to snuff for Apple started out in terms of prioritizing responsiveness of the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► and Making it look nice and. And having consistent and understandable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► Interface paradigm and all the stuff so Apple strengths in that area too is just sort of towards the edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► when you get into OK you've got good hardware. You've got a pretty good platform. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► Near You know language and ID and everything seems pretty solid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► Your frameworks look OK except for the first year one of them comes out then all the frame with a crappy for the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► year they're all good. But then what are you writing with what applications the right on top of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► And then you're like Well Apple's apps are going to crappy and don't get any better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► And third party apps are know how to do interesting things and you get into good points in that realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► but I think Apple strengths are pretty broad. Definitely in hardware. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► I think definitely in a western kind of an frameworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/4991">TS</a>]
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01:26:47 ◼ ► Is new and it's called Apple T.V. It's called the new Apple T.V. It's like an i Pad three move it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► This is just the new one and then you know next year they will they will wreck on this one the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► For in the make a new new Apple T.V. They were always it's called Apple T.V. Right. Like they were. The number of yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► We knew we knew the numbers internally but there was never in the branding a thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► Well it never mattered before you know like the inner now that it's an app platform. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► It will start to matter you know like I think. Now the specs will matter more people will know the specs more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► They will advertise the specs more and. When new generations come out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► They will push what is new about them and they will give them I think you know numbered names of some kind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► You know will say. So this thing has an eight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► It has as far as you know to get to ram thirty two or sixty four gig storage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► And it has this new fancy remote that has like a little mini touch pad on it and is also we know all in one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► And we just complain for a second about. No no give it a threat. Yeah absolutely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► Yeah what year is this like it's so tall. There's so much room in there. Ten one hundred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5265">TS</a>]
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01:28:08 ◼ ► might mention later. You know. To use a ram looks great ten one hundred. Is there anything like I have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► I hope like people stop supporting ten one hundred so I will be forced anyway. Fine. Right. It's better. That's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► Yeah. Anyway. So yeah. The remote I think we can talk a lot about this remote. First of all. Upsides. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► I am very happy to see. With R.F. Instead of I R C don't need line of sight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► You don't need to keep the box out of make sure the I.R. Gets there. Finally as they say exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► And I'm very glad to see some kind of universal remote capability I'm not sure how does that work to reach to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► ceiling or something or there could be existing Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► Has this I'm Simming is this the same feature you're just now he doesn't the other direction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► Where you can use any remote you want with your apple it with your Apple T.V. That the previous generation. I do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► This is. You can use this remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► It's like exactly the same functionality but the reverse where you can have this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► Control your other devices by training it to say. It's got baseless got an I.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► Thing it's got to have an IRA thing at the base like NOT A No I yeah I think you guys are all wrong on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► So why understanding the way this works is it's a Bluetooth. It's a Bluetooth remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► And then using some protocol should I took a note on this let me start see anything is that how it controls your value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► please don't let that be true. Yeah it's not just a mentioned of why are there WAS NO NO NO NO NO Schiller said C.D.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► To control the. I know it has a C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► To control this stuff a turn change your input or whatever and all the other stuff so tipster says it has I.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► For the volume up down. Yeah that's why I'm saying it's got to be for the volume. All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► but right so that's that's a separate thing I'd like you can it's a learning remote you can teach it what is your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5390">TS</a>]
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01:29:57 ◼ ► and down for everything else that I did they mention like oh you can change your input on your thing to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► and it can control your other devices and make sure your T.V. Is turned on its using C.C. Which some H.D.M.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► Standard which is a piece of crap I don't know if the standard to beat the crap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► Or every single product in the entire universe than it once a standard is a basic crap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► It doesn't matter what you do you get H.D.M.I. That implies all of that. Yeah exactly right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► And so all is so bad right so it's comes under a million different. By Panasonic stuff but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► Called like Vir I cast you by Samsung has a different name this is all the same standard. And I you know. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5425">TS</a>]
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01:30:37 ◼ ► I have this on my Sunny told host of sun a receiver with my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► Sunny remote and it's still nothing works I've got a mic stack here with Panasonic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► and fail my Yamaha receiver whatever like. Here's the thing about C.C. It almost works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► If you look at all thing you're like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► Hey this is great all these different manufacturers who you know you know they're cooperating on the standard I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► have this thing I will do all this stuff or whatever but then it stops working. And then you don't know why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► And then everything freezes like one person was that I had a brownout once and C.C. Is never worked again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► So I can fit it inexplicably It's like scuzzy terminations for the really old people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► Terminating scuzzy chains that black magic. That's what C.C. Is like but worse but because with your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► You just expect to work so well I I played the stuff extensively when I got redid my computer. My television set twice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► I try to try to once and I said maybe not ready try to several years later I got it all working. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► But there were just enough like innocent oftenest value way to dissolution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► If you're dealing with anguish C C C C If you have a television receiver anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► You will make your life better turn that off on every single one here device don't leave a single one was C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► Enable because it will screw up everything just turn off everywhere turn off on your receiver turn off on your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► Turn off in your remote turn off your Blu ray player turn all. Everywhere. Turn off on your game console. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► Then you have a slightly more annoying system or you've got turned everything is on but everything will actually work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► So what does C.D.C. Stand for the E.C. Is like oh C.E.C. Oh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► It never goes by the name because every manufacturer has a different name for it's a post like your other devices talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► to each other when I had press one button that it knows to turn the receiver on and change them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► but to in turn the television on turn the volume to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► and do it like it's supposed to be so they can all communicate with each other and almost works. It almost does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► But it is just so incredibly frustrating that just seriously. So it's I guess it's nice that Apple includes this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► There's a chance it could work fine for you that chance seem slim. It seems really slim. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► I am I would encourage people who I know ask your feedback. If you have a television set up with a bunch of C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► Enabled devices. And it just works all the time and there are any problems I have not heard from here of those people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► So I'm asking if that does happen do you send us an email or a tweet and say I use C.C. I've been using it for years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► And I never have a problem with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► I don't think we'll get any emails but who knows I don't think there are many types of liquids out there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► I know when I when I mentioned it on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► All I got replies from people I said See he's the devil and I read like yes. It is to devil. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► And he just had a hard stories about. So that's not to say that Apple shouldn't include it. Sign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► Go ahead and include it. But if you have grand plans that you think this is going to save you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► This is not an Apple technology this is a quote unquote industry standard technology at the piece of crap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► Real time follow up. I apologize to the both of you there is an I.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► Transmitter on the remote as per the spec page on Apple's website. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► I'm still not clear if it's a learning transmitter not but I don't think that the volume will work that part.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► That part will totally work for you if you're trying to use the volume control. That will work on your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► That's honestly all I want to that's the only reason I have any of the remotes out was although it turned the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► On and off. Would be another thing but is that would C.C.'s most to do. Yeah. And even for that don't just don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► OK I don't know where you just separate thing to turn it's fine. You will you know survive. I guarantee you my T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► Is too old to support it. Yeah probably. So I'm done being angry about C.C. and I can be angry about this remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► The other thing about this is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► The thing I kept thinking of looking at this remote which I always this is better than the previous Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► Which everyone hates and gets lost yourself a question. Is it. Yeah. Ok going to get it anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► It's better reason has more buttons more actual buttons on it and it got the whole touchpad they've got to be better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► Anyway. The Tivo remote of them on I always think of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► Tivo it was the first sort of big mass market company I think because you know. Television remotes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► Every year you buy it you know the T.V.'s come with a different shape or mode and there are trends in remote shapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► and trends and what the buttons look like and how they're shaped unlike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► There's no sort of one thing but because Tivo was a singular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► and kept its remote design for a long time people know what a Tivo remote looks like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► If you say what are the Sony remote look like. Well. What year what decade to buy a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► So that's why I'm singling out to hear I think Tivo is one of the first companies in this sort of singular identifiable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5696">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► way that designed a remote around to things around. Actual human hands to hold things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► And also around like an interface design that recognize the most common things people want to do in a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► Remotes have a million buttons on them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► I totally ignorant that is not appropriate for Apple I'm not saying Apple should have made a Tivo remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► But the things of the T.V. Remote got writers like I said. They made a shape. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► That is not shaped like a rectangular solid like a piece of art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► or like something it is shaped like something that is meant to be held in your hand is meant to be easily scoop it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► off a hard surface or a couch and meant to be helped comfortable in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► and shit kind of like if you don't go to the root looks like let's call it a bonus like two bulbous ends with a thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► It feels good to hold in a way that a rounded rectangle or or a sharp corner rectal or any kind of rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► or even LIKE A We remote. The T.V. Remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► A much better fit for gripping human hands in the second thing if I pick up any T.V. Remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► Dead center in the middle on the sort of neck of the thing is a gigantic big brightly coloured large but on the remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► Which is the pause button the play a puppet that's the big feature of the Tivo is like oh you can pause live T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► or Whatever and just above it is the play button and I again there are a million buttons around it I'm not saying that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► That's what Apple should have done. But it's a testament to the table design that the million bucks on T.V. Remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► Are all shaped in distinct ways. Are put in clusters of related functionality that anyone's had a Tivo for years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► And find the buttons you want without looking at it in a sea of a huge number of buttons you can find the directional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► pad you can but I don't need to look at my T.V. Remote I can hit. All sorts of buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► All over the thing with hand shimmies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► and all those up without ever looking at it because every button is distinct You can feel it it's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► Just a bunch of little tiny rectangles not a bunch of uniform circles in a grid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► And the buttons are different sizes in a larger ones are more common the small ones are more obscure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► And again related functionality is localized. It is a brilliant remote design they tweaked a little bit over the years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5813">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► Again not appropriate for Apple what I want to see is that philosophy that philosophy of acknowledging those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► that human hands are going to hold this is not going to be placed as a piece of art and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► You know Museum of Modern Art and jobs going to look at it and Scout right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► It's going to be held by human hands it's going to be on couches going to be on surface will have to pick it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► And some functions are more common than others. So every single button shouldn't be the same size. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► Related function should be grouped together. And it should basically you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► Work more like people expect it to and less like a designer wanted to look this. This looks like still too much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► Form over function. Not enough function dictating form. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► Still better than little tiny silver thing with the stupid little directional circle that you can never tell what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► action you're putting. And I like the touch thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► And voice is the ultimate thing we want to hit buttons at all and I agree with all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► but this is in the grand scheme of remote design. This is not a great remote design. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► I kind of like the old one honestly. But but you know this I mean this looks fine. I'm looking forward to trying it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5876">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► I kind of miss. With the old one that they were like the big center but like you could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► You could just pick it up without looking at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► And you could operate everything that overlooking this I think is going to take some getting used to because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► play pauses like this it shapes is a call to the buttons and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► I don't know but I think I'll use that I think the idea As. That you can get away with using this white Be stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► And by the way did you put the some of the notes new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► but if you looked at the little guide of like the Apple television human interface guidelines they show an animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► not with fingers but with dots. Showing the things you can do and say swipe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► Fine I know a swipe is white cross little touch pad right. Then they show. Both a click and a tap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► Which are supposedly distinct things and how the hell of a distinct. How is a click the button right to stand this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► Who knows. Like the click is more intentional. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► It's like you press harder do you have to bend the remote and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► or so to strike it what they're there for sense is that I have no idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► But I mean is this not tap to click all over again you know there's a click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► and then there's a tap in the two different things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► I don't understand I mean we haven't touched it's a lie so we can't tell so I can't tell if this is a good or bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► but I knew I liked the idea that I can pretend to the buttons don't exist but even if you just pretend about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► and don't exist I think this thing is too low profile too thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► and too small to be comfortable to hold that's why i like they sell those wooden holsters for the all the Hubble T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► Remote for people to turn into something large enough that A doesn't get lost and be feel good in your hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► You know I don't know will say. Now. I was just looking at the Apple Web site the specs. Site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► And it says in the box for the new Apple T.V. Apple T.V. Serial power cord. Lightning two U.S.B. Cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► Is that going to be the same one we always have. And if so that's ever so slightly presumptuous because the only U.S.B.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► On This Is Us P.C. So is that a lightning to us P.C. Cable or sat just a regular Lightning two U.S.B. Cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► Because presumably it's charge the battery right. It's charger remote I would imagine and so it seems a little. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► Yeah it seems a little weird to me that they would include a cable that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► Can't plug in to the device in order to charge the remote you need for the device. It's also. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/5995">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► I think it's kind of funny honestly that. This is this is the second apple device to have a U.S.B. Seaport. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► That's a good point actually think about that it seems appropriate because it's kind of like the second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► The first of ice to be totally redesigned in the US P.C. Era discounting I.R.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► Devices which I guess are sticking with lightning. Like. Yes. But yeah it's a good point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► I think the whole thing you know charging through I think that's should be fine. It does seem to have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► You know based on what they say like Oh yes said like burning months of battery life. Now. The old Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► or Most seem to provide years of battery life to the point where I think I buy a new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► I think I think I only had to replace the battery and Apple T.V. Remote I think twice. And I've been using Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► Since the first one I've never had to replace money as I use it. There you go. So you know this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► This is going to have an interesting problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► Where it's going to be hopefully will warn you had a time when it's running low. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► It's it's just it's a good battery life. Of quote months. That you will generally never have to charge it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► Just small battery will charge so fast it's a kind of like the pencil where like fifteen seconds of charging gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► thirty minutes of us like that's the advantage of small batteries as. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► And because Bluetooth it will be able to tell the thing hey your motors low and you plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► and your plug it in for a half an hour and you'll be good to go over like another month or so excited gonna be fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► and by that rationale the new i Phones charge really fast. Oh goodness we're not getting there yet not get there yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► All right let's talk about Siri on the T.V. Because apparently John you want to talk about that. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► Like everything like that demos well especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► when you don't actually do a demo via just so can movies like The Show me all the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► James Bond movies only the ones the Sean Connery. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► Blob of although if you say only of my argument had to say just and it becomes like a text adventure and. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► Do you think anything is better than trying to enter text. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► With her no control we all agree on that so I think there's a lot of leeway for people to struggle with Siri. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6116">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► Before it becomes as painful as trying to type things and do a search box. So there's what we all wanted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► If it works as designed like it I don't have all tried the Amazon Fire I think the market has one of Casey's try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► like put a microphone the remote. Let me speak some stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► When it works it's useful when it doesn't it's kind of annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► but again it there is a long gap before is like is this more annoying than trying to type things on a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► especially the keyboard not Cordie but is an alphabetical order on the screen or something crazy like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► I hope to really hope it works like they show it working. I bet you know someone tweeted a joke which. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► It was a joke but it shows like The immediate limits you run into. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► Show me at the shop and then show me all the headphones that Marco likes but only the ones that are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► You know under eight hundred dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► They don't know who Marco as they should he's in your contacts can you figure like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► It's a human would be able to do it but Siri can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► and so you know I think that's unfair obviously you know series not artificial intelligence. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► But once you can talk to something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► And start being conversational with it a soon as you hit those limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► and we all know the limits of their soon as you hit them. It breaks the illusion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► And it becomes a little bit frustrating but hopefully the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► The benefits of never having to use an onscreen keyboard to do stuff. FAR outweigh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► You know the downsides of bumping into the invisible walls that constitute the current limits of AI. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► Yeah and what impressed me a lot about Syria was that it specially out in the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► Demos they did it seemed to do better with context than it's ever done before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► and I know one of the features of Siri pretty much since launch was. We understand context since conversational but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► But like you were saying you know. Osho me an action movie ocean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► Show me the James Bond movies no show me the James Bond movies with Sean Connery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► and I'm actually misstating this is not Show me the James Bond movies each times OK. Show me James Bond movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► No show me the ones and Sean Connery. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► And so that context is Captain ANY it looked impressive now we'll see how it actually works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6235">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► But in principle it certainly demo to really well I mean I'm looking for drawing it if I end up getting one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► which knowing me I probably will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► I worry that it will work well for programmers who think procedurally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► and who think of it like a series of felt their operations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► but if you give it to a regular person like it's that you see little kids that would Syria all the time like on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► phone. They just are talking to a like a person. If your program when you're thinking of it is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► I understand this this is a series of filter steps and there is probably some leeway in the in the syntax. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► But there is like what you're doing is you're holding in your head of the program or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► What you know to be the context date. So that when you say just the ones with Sean Connery. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► You understand that they are the context of your previous search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► and that is a plot like that mental model does not exist as the user model of most people's brains. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► They can be trained to figure it out to figure out how do I have to talk to my apple to be to get to do stuff with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► spine. Like again better than an onscreen keyboard but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► What happens initially is people are made by the first demo and I just start talking to identify kinds of know like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6293">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► Show me James Bond movies. I actually want something with Julia Roberts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► And then it shows your movies because there are no Julia Roberts. Because I didn't understand you said actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► And you were just reciting the whole thing and you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► but a human like Boy it's tough it's a tough problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► I just want a fish and speech to text without having to get up and a little Mike from their MO does that so kudos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► Actually before we get to that and in the realm of remotes I don't know if you guys saw this but in the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► Documentation that I pasted and linked to they have the game controllers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► Shown talk about gaming or Apple's i Phone gaming a little bit and they try to show games. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► Being used with a little Excel Romanism your little tiny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► and trying to use like a deep atom touchscreen all this terrible stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► And so Apple does have support for game interest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► They have a picture of an actual game controller documentation has a steel series on top of it Arnold has existing game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► controller for like I was devices or was just a prototype for itself coming up for Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6354">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► and controls that should be on a game controller going to sign up in new ways I haven't kept up with like.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► They bite of already defined as fry us but anyway this is a definition for Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► Possibly also the old definition of High US but it was the first time I threw documentation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► It defines to shoulder pads to triggers a deep had two thumbs that kicks a menu button. And for face buttons A B. and X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► Which are in the mirror image or arrangement of the S N E S which I think it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► when I just go with the exact arrangement of the offending us anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► And I give you the expected behaviors they want them to do with it like you know it goes back in the menu system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► and I don't let the shoulder buttons like using them in an app like left shoulder navigate laughing have gets right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► and then expected behavior in a game various For all these things but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► This shows a little bit of gaming inventions like we're going to define a controller interface on a set of buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► And it's kind of the controller people how they want to arrange the buns they can put those hormones that neither where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► they wanted they can put some sticks anywhere they want or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► But at least they're in game console style saying they're trying to say anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► You should have four face by and they should be ab and X. and Y. and Hear the expected behavior so song gets one game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► And the. You know when they're going to the menu system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► To go into the next menu in your game they hit and to go back they have baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► but then have another game person does it reverse it drives you crazy so I'm happy to see them trying to pin down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► The user every council does us like on Play Station where X. Is the button to go in and I got an intended B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► Is the button to go back in the menus that like every can't gain consol has to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► Otherwise you will just get very frustrated trying to use a game because your muscle memory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► Even just navigating the menus or whatever are finally what's going to was probably the jump button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► and what's probably the fire button right. For John or is a games or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► If I think of the menus because every game has menus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► and it's the most frustrating if some game reverses the this button goes deeper into the menus as button goes back in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6476">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► the menus. So that doesn't you know there was some rumors about like Apple T.V. Taking on a game console or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► People got their fund were trying to write those stories beforehand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► That was not possible to this present to that is not what Apple T.V. Is never was going to be that. That's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► What is going to be is a way to play Iowa style games. From your couch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:25 ◼ ► If the game developers can figure out some way to make the game work without touch controls. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6505">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► And I think is the biggest challenge like a back say remote and it gets back to the controllers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► And that gets back to the universal application of you can write a single game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► and have it work on the i Phone the i Pad. And on the Apple T.V. Again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► If you can figure out some way to control the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► Without letting people touch your screen because on the television. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► They can't touch the screen or if they do nothing will actually happen except I'll get angry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► Like I don't want to delay the T.V.'s discussion but like I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6535">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► Gaming is a part of this in our martyrs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► and what do you think about playing games on this they do the current multiplayer cross the road demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► and people seem excited about that but what do you think the prospects of this as a platform for buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► and playing games. Honestly I think I'm disappointed that Apple doesn't just have a controller. Like a game controller. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► You know I mean in reality I'm not surprised by any of this. But I am disappointed that you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► This is basically relegating games that will actually use controllers to this obscure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► You know side business it was like. It's like making. They were like eleven or something games. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► That could take advantage of both a thirty two X. and They say get a CD at the same time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► Because nobody had both a thirty two X. N.S.A. Good CD. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► I think it's going to be like that where like the number of people who buy the new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► Is going to be low for a while because it's just it's new and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► and it's more expensive so it's going to be low for a while. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► Combine that with the number of people who are going to have the new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► Who are also going to buy a game controller for that that is not from Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► Right now there is the still series and this thing with what Lincoln at this is a real controller. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► So you know they have this that there's no price listed it's. You know you can like pre-order it or something or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► You know let me know when it's ready to kind of thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► It's probably going to be like thirty or forty bucks I would assume. Maybe more who knows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► How many people are actually going to have these controllers to make it worth game developers putting any effort into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► actually taking advantage of them and. And if you. If your game developer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► How can you justify writing a game for the Apple T.V. That. That requires one of these things you know like.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► It's a game controller. If a suitable enough. Game controller. Came with every Apple T.V. Then you could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► You could assume it's there and you can write for it. Now as an optional hardware out on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► I think it's going to get very little support. Control is the biggest challenge with this thing. If you have an i O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► Tons of virus games are out there lots of fun the take venture touching trials games that would be harder to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► a traditional control are easier to play with touch like a flight control. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► Who would want to play flight control with a console. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► Controllers who would be extremely frustrating at super natural and fun to use your finger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► That is an ideal touch game. How do you bring flight controls the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► You absolutely don't you just can't like I you can make people swipe around a little tiny Pad you'll be terrible.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► So there's a different class of games. You have to make for the Apple T.V. Can you make a game. That works on Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► Maybe if it's a type A game like Flappy Bird where you could have a single input which is a big red shiny button that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► you press periodic Lee right. That probably works fine in all them because it's like tap anywhere on the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► Tap anywhere on the remote everything's fine. But when you start getting him in a little bit complicated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► Like even like Alto. Has enough complicated stuff in it that I don't know if you can play Alto. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6716">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► With that I suppose you can if you start using accelerometers but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► But come up with one good control stream is hard enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► Coming up with two good control schemes for a single game that someone buys wants is a model pop forms. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► Seems like a tall order so I had to think that either if you're lucky enough to have a game that has a dead simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► interface like cross the road just like just make the cut where it's like happened a couple swipes fine you're good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:24 ◼ ► Then you can get away with it. If you have a more complicated control scheme you can go. Apple T.V. Only. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6744">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► But then you have to make sure it's playable with the remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► Which is probably not a great experience and like Marco said anyone going to make a game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► That is just terrible to play with the remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► But it's really meant to be played with a control that no one's going to own. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► Maybe even shovelware I guess maybe it's like a shovelware port like everyone's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► You know one of the inevitable part of Thomas was alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► but I think Thomas was one would actually be kind of OK with with a little controller because it's kind of like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► directions in a jump anyway. The remote in addition to being what I think is a not very good remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► Is a terrible video game controller. It'll be fine for taps and swipes but for everything else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► I don't know what this is why like. I and you know. Again. None of this is really that big of a surprise. But I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► Go into this a lot of people were saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► Oh yeah well Apple's going to make a big deal with games here and this is going to be a big game. Story and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► You know again. Unless it shipped with a decent gaming controller. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► That was never going to the case and I think we all knew Apple was not going to do that and ultimately then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► I don't see this being a major game story. I think most games are going to be better on the i Phone and i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► Then they're going to be on this T.V. Because of that because there is no standard. Well. Most I.O.'s games well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► But you think it was Iowa schemes like games that work well with touch interface is obviously better with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► but I'm saying like most games that will actually be made for them because I because I don't see a lot of games being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6836">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► made for it that that will actually like you know game. Games that will do well with a deep Pad or with button. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► Like I don't see that being made for this. So who is going to do that and I keep saying shovelware which is the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► I guess the we era. Popular is that word of like say your A game maker. And you have a game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► And you've already got the game and it's available in like seventeen different platforms.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► And it's not too much effort to hire some contractor to point to the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:28 ◼ ► Now why not like you know just do the math you like the game already. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6868">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► This is already done it's already Q Wade we just wanted to do a part of it. And then just retested. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► And then send it out. And it's a popular game and it's like a popular franchise and it's a well known name or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► Can we make Apple T.V. Part of it. You know it's not the most part in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► You know they do the math and said you know yes we can. That shovelware. There's a slim chance of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► That doesn't make anything into a great console is there a chance like I owe us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► That someone can make a game that plays to the unique strengths of the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► Like this I was like you know who's going to write games your phone that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► but you know if they can fly control in those early breakout games like oh you know what there's a whole class of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► that people haven't really investigated before that are great with touch controls. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► And those games would be terrible on a console maybe terrible on a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► but They're great on your phone integrate on your i Pad and there have been a lot of big success stories.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► Religion that is there an equivalent to the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► I don't think so because anything that would be super great on the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► Would also be super great on any game console. And would probably also be super great on I.O.'s like I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► I don't know if there's a if there's a place for games that are uniquely good on the Apple T.V. That. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► In ways that there wouldn't be good on either eyes devices or consuls or P.C.'s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► So I think it's going to be a tough road for that type of game for Apple T.V. The open question I think I have is will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► I OS games which you know are super popular and I was the the breakout I was games make a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► and one of the biggest selling categories of software for and app store are games. Will that translate to Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:12 ◼ ► Will enough of those games be portable enough to be Apple T.V. and Be ported to the Apple T.V. To make Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6972">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► As successful a game platform as Phones i Pads are. I think there's a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► It's chance of that they are not as successful but like you know portion wise I was a self far fewer Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► Isn't oversell i Phones. Right but proportion was. Well most people get an eyeful T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► Buying download a couple of wanted to dog games. I kind of think they will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► And like cross the road was the perfect game to demo because that'll be fine on the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► and Multi-layered play will be fun. I still think there's a barrier of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► Based on my kids you know people I've seen as a barrier to actually turning on the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► To do this like it seems like more of a ceremony than just taking out your eye patter i Pod touch or your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► and tapping out a few games across the road to actually go to the room with the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► and Turn it on and sit down and turn on the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► and Do a lot of the stuff may be too much of a barrier to make that thing that happens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7026">TS</a>]
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01:57:18 ◼ ► be except for maybe the Amazon. Fire T.V. I don't know their game so far doing their oh yeah. I have them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7038">TS</a>]
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01:57:44 ◼ ► This is you know as I always say. Don't bet against a smartphone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► This is going to get smartphone and that most of the games that will be decent and compelling on the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► Will be i Phone and i Pad games and. So you're asking people to play them on a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7076">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► Instead of playing them on my last device which they probably also have that I think is. I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7082">TS</a>]
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01:58:15 ◼ ► most people. Secondly. So you know. So the games. I mean you know. Usually I think it's actually going to be worse.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► On the Apple T.V. Because you don't have the talk screen. And most people are going to have a game controller. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7103">TS</a>]
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01:58:40 ◼ ► communal That's why I think multiplayer us euro because doing multiplayer crossroads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7120">TS</a>]
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01:58:54 ◼ ► Like maybe people who make game shows and party games for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► Then I guess you get into things like can I buy more of these remotes or do I have to use my phone on my i Pod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► and. And all those other factors are I don't know like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► There are there is a market for a couple of breakout hits for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► but I don't think any of them are going to break out in the same way that I was against it right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► And so then to close this out for now I guess. Do you think this. This will sell well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7154">TS</a>]
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01:59:22 ◼ ► This is priced at one forty nine and one ninety nine for thirty two and sixty four gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► and it is as case you mentioned earlier. Pretty comical. That this for a hundred fifty bucks. Has more memory and it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:33 ◼ ► Then the new i Phones for way more money but I will fight the fight another day I thank you. And today also. This. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7173">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► You know you look at the Amazon Fire he gets one hundred bucks for the for the good one Do even know so it's about a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► hundred bucks or maybe a hundred fifty for the good for the good fire T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► Again no game controller included you gotta pay thirty bucks more whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► I don't think the market for the set top boxes. Is in a you know upwards price climb here. I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7197">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► I think we've seen over the last couple years is these little like cheap forty dollar stick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► Versions of the boxes are selling very well as of the remote. Our smaller you know these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7209">TS</a>]
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02:00:19 ◼ ► Those are selling very well it seems whenever I talk to people who are buying T.V. Boxes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► They always talk about those things that seems like people really love those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► They're very cheap their basic but they're fine for stuff like Netflix with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► and because you know that the kind of stuff that most people are actually using these boxes for so far. OK. And plucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7231">TS</a>]
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02:00:43 ◼ ► So you have that whole part of the market where I don't see them wanting to suddenly spend one hundred fifty dollars on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► this on something to solve that kind of need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► So I think the low end and like the common case of watching Netflix and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► and Plex is going to be solved perfectly well by everything else that's not the Xbox. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7256">TS</a>]
02:01:01 ◼ ► I think looking at Amazon is a worthy. Example here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7261">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► Do you think Amazon actually sells a good number of the expensive fire T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► Box the good one that is that it has a fast C.P.U. and Can run apps and games on the one that I bought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7269">TS</a>]
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02:01:18 ◼ ► Is it is very fast it does have some games that I played once and never again go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:24 ◼ ► I think this is going to be slow climb up the sales ranks for the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7284">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► Because it is coming into a very cheap market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► With with a relatively expensive offering compared to the other things and again. They've done this before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► Apple has done this before. However in this case. What makes it so much better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► I think is going to be like you know this kind this whole app story that they're betting big on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► But I'm not sure that's going to actually play out. It doesn't seem like. I mean I'm sure you know people like us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► You know most of us are probably going to buy something like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► We'll talk about our podcasts and everything but do you see like regular people wanting this you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► Smart box to complain Affleck's but wanting this one and being willing to spend this amount of money for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► Tim said on the thing the Future T.V. Of apps like the other shoe hasn't dropped for this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► Yet and there's lots of stories leading up to this announcement talked about this like. This is the box. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► This is the hardware and they showed the software in the crossed service search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► and all sorts of things that other boxes have as well. The other shoe is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► Hey Apple is there something I can pay for monthly subscription to get basically T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► Without going through a cable company an answer right now is no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► But the rumors have been for years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► and that's what Apple's trying to provide to you they're going to try to find a way where you can pay some monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:44 ◼ ► amount of money. That is less than your current cable bill. And you can get quote unquote T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7364">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► In addition to Netflix and Hulu or whatever else uses scribes and all the other services and Apple things and Bob Law. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7369">TS</a>]
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02:02:58 ◼ ► Games than a fellow app and you fail to see local news and yell to see all the channels that you want to seeing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► and H.B.O. and Showtime any S.V.N. and An Apple doesn't have that yet. Like they. We keep hearing that trying to work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► Work on it. That is the other shoe for this this is the hardware is ready for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► That will make this a way more compelling than you'd like Mark was saying you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► If you just want something to stream Netflix every T.V. Does that now. And you have an old T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► You can buy one of these boxes or one of these. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► Amazon how many people actually subscribe to Amazon who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► and that it's like Who concert across that most people don't subscribe to one of them. Hopefully this is a better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► Box than those little sticks or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► But that just you know said hi and customers like I just want something better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► and I go all the chrome Crassus finalising watch my stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► but this is not a a fully fledged customer solution yet so we're still just waiting for Apple to get its deal worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► out. The I agree and a lot of the regular people that I know that have one of these sort of Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► Boxes or equivalent. A lot of them are swearing by Chromecast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7434">TS</a>]
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02:04:04 ◼ ► I don't really find anything that compelling about this other than that it's a new Apple toys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► I think for fur to really get popular. Either it needs to replace cable like you were just saying John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7451">TS</a>]
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02:04:24 ◼ ► If if say for example that m l b app existed but for the N.F.L. That would be a big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7464">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► So if you if there was some sort of exclusive Sunday Ticket style. Which is exclusive to Direct T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► If there was a way that I could buy an Apple T.V. and Then pay a little extra to get basically Sunday Ticket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:45 ◼ ► In an app that didn't stink you know an app written by the M L B's media arm or whatever it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7485">TS</a>]
02:04:49 ◼ ► I would go berzerk for that I would love it and if it's not the N.F.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7489">TS</a>]
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02:04:57 ◼ ► or find F one. And there might be F one. Some fancy F one app on this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7497">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► Who knows but having something hugely popular and I'm concentrating on sports but isn't exclusively sports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► But having something like that. I think would really drive a lot of adoption but without either the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:17 ◼ ► Service being replaced by. By the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7517">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► or Something that I care or you know you care really really strongly about being on the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► In a really really great experience like that I will be appliqued like I just I don't see huge adoption not yet anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► If you're just augmenting your existing T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7534">TS</a>]
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02:06:03 ◼ ► To get to the mass market you. At the say. This can be how you watch T.V. and. You have to you have to say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:10 ◼ ► It covers your television watching needs like the old boring way. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7570">TS</a>]
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02:06:18 ◼ ► Of apps and if you're really interested in one particular thing is really interested in knitting or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:22 ◼ ► You're really interested in F one are you whatever the thing it really isn't by the way there's an app for that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7582">TS</a>]
02:06:27 ◼ ► television or movies or videos or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7587">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► And the app does more than just let you hit play and watch a movie which again. That's a bar that current have a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:35 ◼ ► It's not crossing right but remanding here these apps are all grain this product is good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7595">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► The apps can really add to areas of interest and I think everybody who subscribes to television in some way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:45 ◼ ► Has some area of interest that potentially someone could make an app for that would make them interested in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7605">TS</a>]
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02:07:09 ◼ ► or The navy other things but for regular people like a set of they just like well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7629">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► Chromecast going to You Tube and it can watch Netflix and it's fine and like that everything a modern T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► Can all do Netflix are ready and probably Amazon Video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7636">TS</a>]
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02:07:31 ◼ ► Really the fit for this to work like terms of the Future T.V. Really needs to be apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7651">TS</a>]
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02:08:24 ◼ ► He was playing music. And there was a video playing just. I don't anyway. He would love to watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► To baseball games the ones that nothing. Oh hey. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► Well every every football every cultural season at one point or another there'll be enough games on simultaneously. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:41 ◼ ► That I will typically have two televisions and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7721">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► or two computers all in my family room so I can balance my eyes between all the different games all at once. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► Also I can hear Marco rolling his eyes. Baseball. Nothing happened for such a long time that is really not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:56 ◼ ► You can just like. I'll pay attention to the game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7736">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► And I'll pay attention to that game you didn't miss and then you just much like the couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► but scratched over there so you have time to time slice it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:05 ◼ ► But in a fast paced like a new watch to basketball games the same time. I don't think you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7745">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► But I'm sure people I'm sure people can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► All right let's talk about Ti Vo ass because we saw some i Phones talk about at the rate we're going we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► longer than the damn good fellas podcast. There's a T.V. J.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:19 ◼ ► Framework I've not looked into any of this so seeing this in the show notes is the first news I had the way for you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7759">TS</a>]
02:09:26 ◼ ► If you don't want to write like a full fledged applique So you're someone who's got a bunch of video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7766">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► Like you are the knitting shall write a new I got a bunch of knitting videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► and I got them organized into categories and I've got like shows and I've you know got to Tory old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► and stuff I don't want to I want to be an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► I want people to be able to launch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► but I don't know how to write an avid I don't know how to run a highrise did I was really all it is is just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:45 ◼ ► categorize been the video that you can start playing right. How can I get that operating if that's possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7785">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► I don't know much about this is I just look at the page briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► but it seems like they have a way to do that has web technologies with H.T.M.L. Five video in javascript. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► To slap some together with web style technologies to give you an application that has a bunch of thumbnails a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:05 ◼ ► with player controls I mean we've all seen this all seen H.T.M.L. Five video players. You Tube's H.T.M.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7805">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► Five a player this point where you have a kind of a customize you why in a place video just fine you can sort through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► them and you just make it a centrally web pages.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► And I Frames and also through the things you're expected to do with a simple Javascript A.P.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► And I think it's a good way to you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:25 ◼ ► To make the barrier to entry for people who have a bunch of video and want to make it a. Vailable in an apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7825">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► The Apple T.V. Quickly and easily. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► Seems like a reasonably good idea I hope it's not terrible thing is we've all seen terrible H.T.M.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► Five hundred players and longed for like actual native controls for video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► But I'm guessing that because the problem domain a small bunch of thumbnails of videos that you play. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:50 ◼ ► I think it should probably be fine. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7850">TS</a>]
02:10:53 ◼ ► This is after reading like three cents on the web pages I'm attire wrong about what T.V. J.S. and T.V. M.L. Kit are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7853">TS</a>]
02:11:00 ◼ ► I'm sure we'll find out a follow up our Intel's about local storage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7860">TS</a>]
02:11:04 ◼ ► and however the snippets I just pull that I think there is no persistent local storage traps on Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7864">TS</a>]
02:11:10 ◼ ► This means that every app developed for the new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7870">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► Must be able to start date and i Cloud that is a direct quote from Apple's documentation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► No persistent local sources great to have thirty two and sixty four gig. Models. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► If you write an app you can't use any of that I mean you can. Incidentally in the course of running. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► But there is no persistent local storage say you've got a bunch of files and you want to download them and store them.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:33 ◼ ► You can put them in i Cloud well not to late you can download them but it's all considered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7893">TS</a>]
02:11:38 ◼ ► Temporary purge of all files. So that you can download them. Yet you can download them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7898">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► But next time you launch they might be gone. But it's non-persistent it's like yeah. It's like you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:48 ◼ ► You know it's going to download stuff it's going to put it on on the storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7908">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► but that's not you know you can't have any guarantee that's going to be there next time you run like you can't store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:56 ◼ ► stuff there. So good it is just there temporarily. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7916">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► And presumably if something more important having to do with actual video watching comes along a wipe all your crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:05 ◼ ► and will be gone the next time you're launched. So like you can save documents there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7925">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► For example like so if you're thinking of making an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► App that I don't know is like a drawing program lets you draw like with a magic wand with the remote. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:16 ◼ ► You can save the user's drawing you'll be able to be good next time you want to make it all begun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7936">TS</a>]
02:12:20 ◼ ► You must use I class which shows that I guess they need all I mean I guess they know that storage for those a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7940">TS</a>]
02:12:25 ◼ ► definition screen savers right. Like they can put stuff on there permanently but your apps can't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7945">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► And the second thing and speaking of stars and the maximum size of an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► App is in the size of the app bundle itself like that you download from the store is two hundred megabyte anything down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► the sides need to be package unloaded using on demand resources we talked about as every day we see shows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► abstaining which will help make your app smaller. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:48 ◼ ► And On Demand resources where you don't ship the resources but the apa downloads them on demand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7968">TS</a>]
02:12:53 ◼ ► I'm not sure how the on demand resources I didn't read into this the on memory Phyllis's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► and i OS it's like you get your out from the App Store at small. And when it needs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7978">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► Often download the but then it keeps it right do you know if On Demand resources are purge of all Argo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:07 ◼ ► I don't know I haven't looked I would guess they probably are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7987">TS</a>]
02:13:10 ◼ ► but either way it sounds like they probably are for the Apple T.V. To my recollection they were on any platform. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7990">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► Like oh yeah you download it on demand but again the same deal like maybe something will come through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:21 ◼ ► and clean them up for the next time you launch you'll need to download them on demand again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8001">TS</a>]
02:13:24 ◼ ► but anyway this is pretty constraining which means. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8004">TS</a>]
02:13:26 ◼ ► No one like you're not going to have the equivalent of single app missing lobby books on the early days of i OS for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8006">TS</a>]
02:13:31 ◼ ► like a single book would be an app for ninety nine cents. No one is going to be able to sell Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8011">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► Apps that are like three hours of video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► You just download it and it's like you know like no just not going to happen because it's gonna be two hundred megs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:44 ◼ ► And the probably reject you tried to do that anyway for other reasons. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8024">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► So for games that basically means all that on demand stuff that they showed you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:54 ◼ ► That's like mandatory for games like you have something like across the road I don't think cross the road fly fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8034">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► entered two hundred megs I don't know maybe it doesn't know textures and it is just flat shaded I think. But yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:05 ◼ ► If you're thinking of making a game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8045">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► If again if you had any illusions a hell of those are goes into like album to me is going up against Playstation X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:12 ◼ ► Box with no local storage and two hundred megawatts of thing and I forget it. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8052">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► Those are pretty tight and it makes me wonder what they think they need all that storage for I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:25 ◼ ► The answer is to spool up H.D. Video. I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8065">TS</a>]
02:14:28 ◼ ► But I'm not complaining like I love the fact of the storage is generous but to go from what is the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8068">TS</a>]
02:14:33 ◼ ► Three as like eight gig or something crazy like that. And this is not for K. Video this is the same resolution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8073">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► There's room for way more video to stay on the device which I I applaud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:43 ◼ ► but if you're an app developer by these things pretty harsh they do not want you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8083">TS</a>]
02:14:47 ◼ ► Using any of that flash storage device. Permanently. Yeah and I mean and you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8087">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► Even just as a customer trying to buy this device. They offer into capacities. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8092">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► Thirty two for one hundred fifty and sixty four for two hundred and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8097">TS</a>]
02:15:01 ◼ ► How do you as a customer like I mean I was either going to going to figure out some B.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8101">TS</a>]
02:15:04 ◼ ► Way for the employees to explain in the stores and and half the employees are going to mess up the explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8104">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► and do it their other way and it's anyway. It's like the way they try to explain RAM on the computers. The courts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► Anyway. How is a customer you supposed to know which one to buy because it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► You know the actual benefit is most likely to just be that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:28 ◼ ► Well when you hit a purge request it kind of sucks it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8128">TS</a>]
02:15:31 ◼ ► when you're in Safari your page contains a memory and I O. S. and You have only reload the page.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8131">TS</a>]
02:15:35 ◼ ► Next time you go back where if you have a whole bunch of really big apps and games on your new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8135">TS</a>]
02:15:41 ◼ ► And you go to one you haven't used for a while and a date has been purged since you last used it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8141">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► Then that's going to have to read download. Stuff you're going to have to wait a second lottery download stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:52 ◼ ► So getting the bigger one would make that happen less often. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8152">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► Or possibly never forgotten how many things you have on there. So that is the reason to buy a bigger one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8156">TS</a>]
02:16:01 ◼ ► How many people are going to know that though they might also say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8161">TS</a>]
02:16:05 ◼ ► Speaking of things that Apple Store employees as I know you can download more apps which is strictly true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8165">TS</a>]
02:16:09 ◼ ► but you know how many two hundred men Yassir have the talent to make a dent in the extra thirty two gigs of memory you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8169">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► get like do that math. It's a lot. So I'm So what they're probably going to say is if you're going to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:20 ◼ ► If you're going to be playing games on it you should get the big one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8180">TS</a>]
02:16:22 ◼ ► That's probably what the trouble how they're going to mess yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8182">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► Because that you can download one gig levels I guess if you're. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► You know something with lots of texture as you get a two hundred meg game that on slow the on demand loads a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:33 ◼ ► number of levels and if you play that game a lot. It will be nice that it doesn't have to read download it but again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8193">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► How many. Well I guess you could fill it with games I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► I'm trying to think what is it is what video or undermine resources that are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:45 ◼ ► You know I don't again there purge of all Bob or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8205">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► but are there enough big games that you're going to be annoyed that if I play this game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:54 ◼ ► And then I play that game and I go back to the previous game or the level gets purged. Maybe I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8214">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► Based on what we know now about what the story is going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► or I think the thirty two is probably big enough for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:07 ◼ ► and it's great that I can say that about the smallest capacity Apple device in any product category. Yeah exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8227">TS</a>]
02:17:13 ◼ ► And it all depends really on how much games actually take off on this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8233">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► And like that because you know as you said earlier like there's so many hurdles for game developers to jump through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► Now one of the additional hurdles is you're going to have to adopt this app that in modern And there's download on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:29 ◼ ► demand resources stuff like again it's adding more work to what this is I think it's going to be a tough sell for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8249">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► of good developers especially when the installed base is starting at zero. But if this all comes together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:43 ◼ ► But that's a big if but if this all comes together to the point where they sell enough of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8263">TS</a>]
02:17:49 ◼ ► and apps are compelling enough and good enough and useful enough. On them that there can be a vibrant at market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8269">TS</a>]
02:17:56 ◼ ► And that's a huge. If. But if that happens. And there is a vibrant at market that forms in those conditions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8276">TS</a>]
02:18:04 ◼ ► Then this will be really cool. Because I do like the idea of T.V. Becoming app of FIDE. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8284">TS</a>]
02:18:11 ◼ ► You know like the you know the I think the way to present it on like you know this is why we are going this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8291">TS</a>]
02:18:16 ◼ ► I think you know. You can look at it partly and say well that's B.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8296">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► Because they couldn't make content deals in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► but I think they honestly do believe that you know I think that really is where they think this should go where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:27 ◼ ► think it is going. And that's right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8307">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► Well that the content deals would be the same thing though when they like content deals would just be more apps. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:37 ◼ ► You know because it seems like I mean who knows what they are what they're planning what some kind of T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8317">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► Plan or whether it's just getting a look at a much apps on here. Regardless you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:45 ◼ ► They now have the groundwork laid for to go either way. So. So they they have the most options open. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8325">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► I think if you look like how people watch T.V. On. I Phones and i Pads. It is the app model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► You know Apple does not sell. The package for your i Pad. Even though lots of people watch T.V. Shows i Pads it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8337">TS</a>]
02:19:04 ◼ ► You know instead. It's just you want. If you want to watch T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8344">TS</a>]
02:19:06 ◼ ► Shows now that you go download the apps for those shows or yellow devilish or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8346">TS</a>]
02:19:10 ◼ ► You know so that's going to be good. This. You know this also gives them. Hopefully if Amazon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8350">TS</a>]
02:19:15 ◼ ► Makes an app for Amazon Video then this give them way to get out of the video on the Apple T.V. Without like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8355">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► You know whatever you know. Competitive. Sucking up of their pride they couldn't do on a previous Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:26 ◼ ► Whatever that was so you know. I think this is a great model. If it works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8366">TS</a>]
02:19:31 ◼ ► But there are these big challenges to getting it to work that I do have doubts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8371">TS</a>]
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02:19:41 ◼ ► And I think that I think the the story to customers of why they should spend one hundred fifty dollars on this new box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8381">TS</a>]
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02:19:57 ◼ ► I don't think a lot of people are going to feel that that that like want that desire that lust to go get this right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8397">TS</a>]
02:20:04 ◼ ► Well don't worry because by next summer Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8404">TS</a>]
02:20:06 ◼ ► We've built into fifty percent to twelve years old you know what I will mother fifty percent over the one hundred him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8406">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► member. Eric Schmidt. Yeah. Speaking of a apps like television as apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:17 ◼ ► The current version of that actually a lot of crappy sides to it like the they're the crappy side of apps like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8417">TS</a>]
02:20:24 ◼ ► when I was on vacation. I watched Mr Robot and humans and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8424">TS</a>]
02:20:28 ◼ ► I think was it Mr Robot as on USA and humans on AMC is an AMC app for i was in is USA up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8428">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► Right now of course is also the website so I think maybe that was the first thing I tried I went to the Web site on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8435">TS</a>]
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02:20:49 ◼ ► and like I should get the app that will be better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8449">TS</a>]
02:20:51 ◼ ► And it wasn't the apps were look like they were kind of crazy weather the use inside there and like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8451">TS</a>]
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02:21:01 ◼ ► You know all the things I was God for you can't scrub for one bless the other. So I start watching the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8461">TS</a>]
02:21:06 ◼ ► And if I close the i Pad or had to come back to it later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8466">TS</a>]
02:21:09 ◼ ► It wouldn't pick up where I left off in the app it would not pick up where I left off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8469">TS</a>]
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02:21:14 ◼ ► And so I had to try to move the scrubber to the part where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8474">TS</a>]
02:21:16 ◼ ► but if I scrub past one of the little dots that indicated a mandatory commercial break. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8476">TS</a>]
02:21:20 ◼ ► It would move Discovery back and replay that same ad. And then sometimes when I got done with the ad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8480">TS</a>]
02:21:24 ◼ ► It would automatically jump back to being one point I believe. I spent over the course of a day for hours on and off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8484">TS</a>]
02:21:31 ◼ ► Trying to get back to the point where I was watching the program like I try every once in a while I would let It's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8491">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► a lot of those are things sometimes I just let it play to try to get up to the Point four hours I think I spent on off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:42 ◼ ► trying to get to the scene where I left off in like a forty five minute television show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8502">TS</a>]
02:21:46 ◼ ► So I think the at model like hey will make will make of the effort this is the AMC or the USA album for our. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8506">TS</a>]
02:21:52 ◼ ► Sorry for whichever network I am throwing under the bus that actually didn't have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8512">TS</a>]
02:21:57 ◼ ► but we're both pretty crappy honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8517">TS</a>]
02:21:59 ◼ ► but the want to spend a really long time with is like the mandatory commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8519">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► and not letting me pick up where I left off. That's just unforgettable. And that was an app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:07 ◼ ► That was not a web thing that was an app. So if the Future T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8527">TS</a>]
02:22:09 ◼ ► Is apps God I hope they're better absentees because these this was made by big television networks with a lot of money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8529">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► With successful shows and the shows are good. But the apps were terrible and that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► That is not acceptable no one is going to let your place a T.V. With something like this right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► Like you just know unknowable except that like T.V.'s to be T.V. At the turn on it has the player has to be it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:30 ◼ ► And then better T.V. Is like Tivo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8550">TS</a>]
02:22:32 ◼ ► And that's for like a you know a small category of readers who want to spend a lot of money in this box but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8552">TS</a>]
02:22:36 ◼ ► But bottom line is it's got a play. And if you try to play in the doesn't play if that's not T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8556">TS</a>]
02:22:43 ◼ ► So I really hope that whatever Apple's and enjoy content is as a result I like is the content deal just more apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8563">TS</a>]
02:22:49 ◼ ► or is it some different thing that AAPL works on that the example of right some kind of quality guarantee would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8569">TS</a>]
02:22:57 ◼ ► Ship best part of their Apple television subscription deal because they're just not good enough quality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8577">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► They shouldn't because they're not. Yeah. My role went a lot next year to see if I can sling those deals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:10 ◼ ► One more short button off. Pull it off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8590">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► Please please no Dolly buttons I'm you know you're right like as we move towards this era of everything has its own app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► and every network has its own I mean we see the same thing happening on podcast which kind of scares me just for the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► You know not only from the future of my app. Kind of perspective but also it has a listener. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:29 ◼ ► Because it does suck to have to go to like different publishers apps to watch different shows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8609">TS</a>]
02:23:34 ◼ ► And then the apps are a very different quality. And so you know not only can you not use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8614">TS</a>]
02:23:40 ◼ ► One good app to watch everything. But you have to go to all these different crappy apps to watch everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8620">TS</a>]
02:23:46 ◼ ► And that does suck in a lot of ways however I think looking at looking at where we are with you know looking at how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8626">TS</a>]
02:23:53 ◼ ► our how i OS has developed in this way with with T.V. Content movie content how it was a develop in this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8633">TS</a>]
02:23:59 ◼ ► The situation the Apple T.V. Has been obviously Apple has tried very hard to get some kind of like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8639">TS</a>]
02:24:05 ◼ ► You know normalize deal thing going and. We don't know if they've succeeded so far it seems like they haven't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8645">TS</a>]
02:24:11 ◼ ► But either way you know we really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8651">TS</a>]
02:24:16 ◼ ► I think this is kind of just like the best solution that we have given given the modern reality of the of the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8656">TS</a>]
02:24:23 ◼ ► producers in the content landscape like I don't think. Who knows Apple could prove us wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8663">TS</a>]
02:24:28 ◼ ► In six months and release such a plan everything standardise and you just pay them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8668">TS</a>]
02:24:32 ◼ ► But it seems like this probably the best they could do. Given you know. Given the reality of the market. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8672">TS</a>]
02:24:39 ◼ ► Right so. We have i Phones to cover but this is a natural stopping point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8679">TS</a>]
02:24:44 ◼ ► And we do not have a fourth sponsor in the strictest sense for this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8684">TS</a>]
02:24:49 ◼ ► but I thought Are we thought it would be a good idea to take a quick moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8689">TS</a>]
02:24:53 ◼ ► and just call attention to a friend of the show Steven Hackett is trying to raise some money for St Jude's Children's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8693">TS</a>]
02:24:59 ◼ ► Hospital and he has a long and. Well fortunate but I'm fortunate history of St Jude's his eldest son. Josiah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8699">TS</a>]
02:25:07 ◼ ► Has been diagnosed with cancer and. He has had a long struggle with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8707">TS</a>]
02:25:14 ◼ ► Stephen has probably received Steven in his family has probably received a millions of dollars worth of medical care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8714">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► for free because of donations to St Jude. If they are just even didn't ask us to do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:28 ◼ ► We just thought it was the right thing to do so if you've made it this far and have a couple of bucks to spare. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8728">TS</a>]
02:25:34 ◼ ► We'll put a link in the show notes on the sponsor section for where you can go to donate a little bit of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8734">TS</a>]
02:25:39 ◼ ► and I think would mean a lot to us and it would mean a lot to Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8739">TS</a>]
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02:25:48 ◼ ► It would mean a lot to all of those people if you could you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8748">TS</a>]
02:25:51 ◼ ► Script The other couple bucks and send it their way so if you're feeling kind. This. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8751">TS</a>]
02:25:56 ◼ ► This September and have any money left over from any purchases you might be making. He stays. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8756">TS</a>]
02:26:02 ◼ ► Please think of throwing a few bucks their way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8762">TS</a>]
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02:26:09 ◼ ► I'm fortunate that my family has not needed this but I'm so so glad to see exists. In case we ever do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8769">TS</a>]
02:26:18 ◼ ► This is the kind of things like you want to place like this to exist it really does help society in such a big way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8778">TS</a>]
02:26:23 ◼ ► and they just you know they just do such great work there and the fact that that you know it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8783">TS</a>]
02:26:28 ◼ ► It's hard enough if you have. If you need to go to a child cancer hospital that's that's never a good thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8788">TS</a>]
02:26:36 ◼ ► But the fact that you know. Imagine if people had to pay for this and if they had to then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8796">TS</a>]
02:26:41 ◼ ► You know deny care because somebody couldn't afford it or whatever I mean that's just horrifying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8801">TS</a>]
02:26:45 ◼ ► So the work they do is amazing. Go Go support St Jude. You know donate to St Jude it's fantastic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8805">TS</a>]
02:26:51 ◼ ► That's just like an example of like the most important blanket rule like you think well you know they're all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8811">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► same or different doctors to hear with like the most important thing is like the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8816">TS</a>]
02:27:00 ◼ ► The blanket rule like doesn't matter if you have enough money. Like just take that off the table. Is that because that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8820">TS</a>]
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02:27:26 ◼ ► and strangely know that type of thing. Makes me want to give money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8846">TS</a>]
02:27:32 ◼ ► Knowing that if I give money is going to go to help pay for kids to get better. Right there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8852">TS</a>]
02:27:40 ◼ ► You know that kids are going to be accepted here period how can they do that because people give them money so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8860">TS</a>]
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02:27:47 ◼ ► and September is National Childhood Cancer Awareness Month which is why you see if you do it on this fund raising he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8867">TS</a>]
02:27:51 ◼ ► does it every September and this is really great cause. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8871">TS</a>]
02:27:54 ◼ ► So check it out at the link in the show notes or go to five twelve pixels dot net. And you can find a link there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8874">TS</a>]
02:28:00 ◼ ► All right. So i Phone six S. And if you're one of those crazy kids in the plus club. I Phone six S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8880">TS</a>]
02:28:08 ◼ ► Plus a nine tactic Engine three D. Touch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8888">TS</a>]
02:28:12 ◼ ► Better camera which I had for a fleeting moment I was very scared that the better camera had more megapixels then my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8892">TS</a>]
02:28:19 ◼ ► fancy pants micro for thirds camera. It's not high salt probably one more here. That's the case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8899">TS</a>]
02:28:26 ◼ ► I'll be asleep there's a lot more to camera than just how many medic megapixels it is but I did get very scared. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8906">TS</a>]
02:28:31 ◼ ► Just for a moment there. Anyway. This looks pretty good to me. It looks more feature packed. Then I think most S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8911">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► Years have ben. It also has a new version of Touch ID which supposedly is a lot faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:48 ◼ ► I'm really interested to play with the three D. Touch I think that it's interesting I have mixed feelings about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8928">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► I think I'm going to love it and it certainly is very clever and different. But it also adds another layer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8935">TS</a>]
02:29:04 ◼ ► Sue an operating system and a piece of hardware that I think has been getting considerably more complex over the years.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8944">TS</a>]
02:29:12 ◼ ► If you think about my I joined the i Phone. I got my first i Phone when it was a three G.S. And that by comparison. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8952">TS</a>]
02:29:23 ◼ ► Was on believably simple I think we were on like i OS dreamy at the point if memory serves I'm probably wrong about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8963">TS</a>]
02:29:29 ◼ ► that but it was so simple by comparison to what we have today and it's interesting to me that we are getting closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8969">TS</a>]
02:29:40 ◼ ► and closer with all these options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8980">TS</a>]
02:29:41 ◼ ► and gestures gestures from the bottom jesters from the left justice from the right just from the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8981">TS</a>]
02:29:47 ◼ ► And now we have well did you touch or did you really touch or did you really touch and hold all of these different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8987">TS</a>]
02:29:54 ◼ ► Interaction. Mechanisms and paradigms. I'm not saying they're bad thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8994">TS</a>]
02:29:58 ◼ ► I'm not saying that this isn't the march of progress I'm not saying this isn't good in the grand scheme of things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/8998">TS</a>]
02:30:03 ◼ ► But I don't know I just had this weird feeling all day long after seeing the keynote that things are getting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9003">TS</a>]
02:30:08 ◼ ► and more complex. And this device that was kind of like this this. Haven. Of cleanliness and simplicity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9008">TS</a>]
02:30:17 ◼ ► Just doesn't seem so simple anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9017">TS</a>]
02:30:20 ◼ ► Do you guys feel the same way like like Marco do you feel like this is getting more more complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9020">TS</a>]
02:30:25 ◼ ► or my being crazy here. Now I'm actually felt that way for a while about many of Apple's products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9025">TS</a>]
02:30:31 ◼ ► I mean so just the other day at a so I've had an apple watch since day one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9031">TS</a>]
02:30:35 ◼ ► I discovered about three days ago that you can swipe down to dismiss notification. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9035">TS</a>]
02:30:43 ◼ ► Rolling to dismiss button and trying to tap it in a way that isn't interpreted as a scroll. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9043">TS</a>]
02:30:47 ◼ ► Like the fact that I have had to watch all this time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9047">TS</a>]
02:30:51 ◼ ► And I'm for all this stuff so closely and know that until recently. Like just shows you look just like there's so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9051">TS</a>]
02:30:57 ◼ ► Hidden hidden stuff hidden shortcuts hidden features I think. I think that shows the doing a good job on shoe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9057">TS</a>]
02:31:02 ◼ ► Because the trick is to add the deep functionality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9062">TS</a>]
02:31:09 ◼ ► Without making it more complicated or for people who don't know or care about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9069">TS</a>]
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02:31:21 ◼ ► Not knowing that it was there did not interfere with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9081">TS</a>]
02:31:25 ◼ ► and like it didn't it didn't weigh on your mind you didn't have a button that was in your face like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9085">TS</a>]
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02:31:34 ◼ ► trigger and I think some of the stuff and I us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9094">TS</a>]
02:31:36 ◼ ► Lurches into that area like the notifications on our scene give I actually bring it down go What the heck is that right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9096">TS</a>]
02:31:41 ◼ ► Are double tapping the home button they don't know what that is that are seen before and just a black student. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9101">TS</a>]
02:31:45 ◼ ► That's what you don't want. Happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9105">TS</a>]
02:31:47 ◼ ► But for the most part Apple has been in a pretty good job of having all that advance stuff there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9107">TS</a>]
02:31:53 ◼ ► But if you don't know about it and don't want to deal with it it's not in your face. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9113">TS</a>]
02:31:57 ◼ ► And I think a lot of the i OS seven simple vacation of getting in trolls out and trying to make things look simpler. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9117">TS</a>]
02:32:02 ◼ ► While the same time hiding much more functionality and I thought oh buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9122">TS</a>]
02:32:05 ◼ ► It's blocking kind of a fine line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9125">TS</a>]
02:32:07 ◼ ► and I'll have to try the story to touch thing to see what side of the line it goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9127">TS</a>]
02:32:11 ◼ ► but it seems like the same type of thing of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9131">TS</a>]
02:32:13 ◼ ► If you don't know that it's there or maybe it won't bother you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9133">TS</a>]
02:32:17 ◼ ► when they show those demos I just had to think that like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9137">TS</a>]
02:32:20 ◼ ► There's a least two or three things that I think once people figure out that it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9140">TS</a>]
02:32:25 ◼ ► and it becomes part of their vocabulary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9145">TS</a>]
02:32:26 ◼ ► and I think it's perfectly within the realm of everybody to have this become part of our cattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9146">TS</a>]
02:32:30 ◼ ► or whatever it's called Long pressing for us touching or whatever on an icon on your home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9150">TS</a>]
02:32:37 ◼ ► and picking one of three common things like even just to take a selfie which I showed like seventeen times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9157">TS</a>]
02:32:43 ◼ ► That's a good feature that people will use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9163">TS</a>]
02:32:45 ◼ ► It's better than launching the app is not so complicated I think people can't do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9165">TS</a>]
02:32:49 ◼ ► And once somebody does it once the phone's going to feel broken if you can't do that on their game. You take someone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9169">TS</a>]
02:32:56 ◼ ► Take a teenager with a phone with I was nine who used to like two of those features and two apps that's it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9176">TS</a>]
02:33:01 ◼ ► Just to absent a home screen to use that thing all the time and put them back to I was nine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9181">TS</a>]
02:33:05 ◼ ► That like my phone has broken through the junk away. Right. And that alone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9185">TS</a>]
02:33:10 ◼ ► Like the doomsday scenario that Margot those emails I was one of every app you got along present hard Bresson a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9190">TS</a>]
02:33:16 ◼ ► things are spreading out you didn't mean it like you don't want that to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9196">TS</a>]
02:33:19 ◼ ► But I think the additional functionality provided by this. And I'm hoping. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9199">TS</a>]
02:33:23 ◼ ► It is better than long pressing would be because I hate long pressing. I think it's worth it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9203">TS</a>]
02:33:28 ◼ ► I think we're ready for the next step in the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9208">TS</a>]
02:33:31 ◼ ► and this functionality I think you can put in applications in the right way to provide shortcuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9211">TS</a>]
02:33:38 ◼ ► and extra functionality her able who want them without getting in the way of people who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9218">TS</a>]
02:33:43 ◼ ► and lot of stuff they demo to already kind of pushing against a line like the whole thing of pressing a hard on the low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9223">TS</a>]
02:33:48 ◼ ► Harry Potter photos or they start moving. Is that really a great use of force press or derided have a button for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9228">TS</a>]
02:33:55 ◼ ► I don't know. Harry Potter smile more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9235">TS</a>]
02:33:59 ◼ ► When I was there was a Dolby demo not Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9239">TS</a>]
02:34:01 ◼ ► but then again Apple that's everything as these things sold at them with the blame for it as well. Yeah. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9241">TS</a>]
02:34:08 ◼ ► The three D. Touch. Thing. I'm mostly optimistic about it and I was. I found a lot of their demos very convincing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9248">TS</a>]
02:34:16 ◼ ► And a lot of their demo was very very silly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9256">TS</a>]
02:34:18 ◼ ► So I guess we'll just have to try to ourselves and see it like here the test for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9258">TS</a>]
02:34:23 ◼ ► If you pretend this feature doesn't exist does it ever bother you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9263">TS</a>]
02:34:26 ◼ ► And I'm hoping the answer is no like you know we get all get these phones start using I was nine I'm not getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9266">TS</a>]
02:34:31 ◼ ► all right but anyway. Market will get it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9271">TS</a>]
02:34:33 ◼ ► Probably in that yearly plan I felt for Casey when I bought the van and like No Aaron we like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9273">TS</a>]
02:34:43 ◼ ► If you pretend to retouch does not exist because it does impact your life at all and I'm hoping the answer is no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9283">TS</a>]
02:34:49 ◼ ► And the second thing is now pretend it doesn't exist did you find anything useful for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9289">TS</a>]
02:34:53 ◼ ► And I think the answer is definitely going to be yes. For like even if it's just for two or three things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9293">TS</a>]
02:34:58 ◼ ► And then the final answer is is every single place that's on top of it all Burberry three touch usefulness definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9298">TS</a>]
02:35:05 ◼ ► know like even Apple even a thought they demo don't like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9305">TS</a>]
02:35:08 ◼ ► That's a little bit too much pressing really hard and i Phone screen Apple but you know it's like the you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9308">TS</a>]
02:35:13 ◼ ► A twenty year old or whatever people and he was twenty percent of the auction ality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9313">TS</a>]
02:35:17 ◼ ► but that's not even a general anyway. Ever only use a different twenty percent. So I am optimistic about three touch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9317">TS</a>]
02:35:24 ◼ ► I like the new little VI Brady thing. The little topic engine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9324">TS</a>]
02:35:28 ◼ ► I'm a little bit scared how much battery space that's taking up I guess to get some space savings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9328">TS</a>]
02:35:32 ◼ ► and I said a shrink on the A nine. In Apple. Parlance in not so many words but yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9332">TS</a>]
02:35:37 ◼ ► Well they shrunk the battery a little bit to them saying yeah Bashar and they have like the tactic engine is gigantic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9337">TS</a>]
02:35:43 ◼ ► Yeah and the screen is thicker. I'm excited by the tap tick. Engine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9343">TS</a>]
02:35:48 ◼ ► I'm assuming the battery life will be similar because it's a nest generation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9348">TS</a>]
02:35:53 ◼ ► You get the benefits of everything else using less power and having better parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9353">TS</a>]
02:35:56 ◼ ► and blah blah so it's probably break even if we didn't mention a by the way i Pad Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9356">TS</a>]
02:35:59 ◼ ► That they have this massive device with four speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9359">TS</a>]
02:36:02 ◼ ► and have all of them from battery able to say you know what ten hours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9362">TS</a>]
02:36:05 ◼ ► It's the i Pad rule the whole the hard and fast i Pad rule. But is gigantic. Their tent I said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9365">TS</a>]
02:36:12 ◼ ► Ten hours what should we do the rest of space and more speakers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9372">TS</a>]
02:36:15 ◼ ► Well because I mean weight is the biggest problem there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9375">TS</a>]
02:36:17 ◼ ► You know like I mean it is the problem I guess it's megas heavy if you want. It's. Well it's already. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9377">TS</a>]
02:36:23 ◼ ► Yeah it's already. Heavier than the first i Pad and it's bigger so I mean I I already think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9383">TS</a>]
02:36:27 ◼ ► Yeah I already think it's going to be. It will keep mine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9387">TS</a>]
02:36:31 ◼ ► A lot of people still want their i Pad to be his thing they hold up in bed and hits them in the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9391">TS</a>]
02:36:37 ◼ ► and they fall asleep like this all is going to do some damage thirteen inches coming down Yeah yeah exactly like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9397">TS</a>]
02:36:42 ◼ ► why like. I really don't think they could have added more weight Believe me I am all for adding battery life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9402">TS</a>]
02:36:48 ◼ ► But I also know the batteries are very heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9408">TS</a>]
02:36:49 ◼ ► and in this case in the case of the i Phone six I think it should have a bigger battery in the case of the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9409">TS</a>]
02:36:57 ◼ ► I Pad Pro though if it's already. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9417">TS</a>]
02:36:59 ◼ ► That heavy with the battery it has I don't think they can afford to put more in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9419">TS</a>]
02:37:04 ◼ ► Can I hear a loving hours or twelve. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9424">TS</a>]
02:37:06 ◼ ► And I'm sure it's fine ten I don't have problems I've had their lifetime ours as always always been honest ten hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9426">TS</a>]
02:37:11 ◼ ► not really one game but still like. I don't ask it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9431">TS</a>]
02:37:15 ◼ ► I don't ask my i Pad to do the type so I think I think you're right about weight becoming a factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9435">TS</a>]
02:37:19 ◼ ► but like if anything is going to be a gigantic thing you'll like this is it. This is the one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9439">TS</a>]
02:37:23 ◼ ► This is the one it's going to be super heavy it already is super heavy make it super heavy or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9443">TS</a>]
02:37:27 ◼ ► The fact that they use that space for like baffles for the speakers and I can sound better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9447">TS</a>]
02:37:31 ◼ ► I think it's kind of a good idea because that kind of a pro feature and if you are like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9451">TS</a>]
02:37:35 ◼ ► I do all my television watching my pet. And I do it all on my couch and on my bed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9455">TS</a>]
02:37:40 ◼ ► This is the one to get because the sound is going to be way better in the screen is going to be gorgeous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9460">TS</a>]
02:37:43 ◼ ► As Way too many pixels to show Tenet even D.-O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9463">TS</a>]
02:37:45 ◼ ► But what people care of you can do picture in picture and browse for all you're doing it whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9465">TS</a>]
02:37:51 ◼ ► All right we're going off on a. I Phone six and I agree with you is on the sex. Battery life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9471">TS</a>]
02:37:56 ◼ ► They didn't didn't say anything about it today. Don't think so they said it was the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9476">TS</a>]
02:38:02 ◼ ► Yeah I mean like that's what they're going for it will probably be same issue. A lot of friends of ask me Hey is the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9482">TS</a>]
02:38:08 ◼ ► I Phone six a good phone to get an especially Gulf getting for like five cents tops like. Yeah like. You know the S.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9488">TS</a>]
02:38:16 ◼ ► Narrations usually great to get if you don't haven't had a phone with Touch ID touch a day is awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9496">TS</a>]
02:38:22 ◼ ► Generation is usually have fewer weirdnesses than than the first one in terms of like if they've made phones the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9502">TS</a>]
02:38:30 ◼ ► But this one has more internal changes than usual and so I guess the battery is a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9510">TS</a>]
02:38:36 ◼ ► and maybe the tapped again just a question based on the wonkiness of the topic engine in the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9516">TS</a>]
02:38:42 ◼ ► The initial watch and sometimes now when I feel my Taplin wrist and like it's just getting lighter than it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9522">TS</a>]
02:38:47 ◼ ► but I think I might just be imagining things anyway. I have the same problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9527">TS</a>]
02:38:50 ◼ ► Yeah it working just getting tapped numbness and iris. The cameras a little bit better like it has the three D. Touch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9530">TS</a>]
02:38:58 ◼ ► The Seems like a really great phone to me. The only reservations I have are. I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9538">TS</a>]
02:39:04 ◼ ► Battery life and then I guess maybe three touch to go horribly wrong on the X. and Y. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9544">TS</a>]
02:39:10 ◼ ► Activated all the time make you pay the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9550">TS</a>]
02:39:11 ◼ ► But that's about the only bad things I can even worry about in the slightest about the sauna Otherwise it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9551">TS</a>]
02:39:17 ◼ ► like a really good phone to me and actually this is my first time guys. My first time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9557">TS</a>]
02:39:21 ◼ ► Feeling bad that now I don't have the good i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9561">TS</a>]
02:39:25 ◼ ► And I felt that I totally felt to them like Oh this is what everyone's to talk about the sucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9565">TS</a>]
02:39:28 ◼ ► Because I was I want one I want I want to do all this stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9568">TS</a>]
02:39:31 ◼ ► Because they never updated the i Pod Touch you never had to worry about the you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9571">TS</a>]
02:39:34 ◼ ► when they did I just bought it I always just bought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9574">TS</a>]
02:39:37 ◼ ► But I looked at this and I'm like why shouldn't buy this will just wait for the seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9577">TS</a>]
02:39:43 ◼ ► But you can have one now for starting at twenty seven dollars a month or whatever. And I think that all that deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9583">TS</a>]
02:39:50 ◼ ► Casey to talk you out of doing this to I'm pretty sure the deal is a worse deal than just buying yourself a new phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9590">TS</a>]
02:39:55 ◼ ► every year. I think is just like a sophisticated way to loan money. In pay interest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9595">TS</a>]
02:40:00 ◼ ► That's I just look at every two seconds. But I think that sort of. Yeah I haven't done the spread sheets or anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9600">TS</a>]
02:40:05 ◼ ► I think that's right. I think. You stand to make a little bit of money. So to speak. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9605">TS</a>]
02:40:11 ◼ ► If you were going to get Apple Care and going to upgrade annually. Then you may shave a few dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9611">TS</a>]
02:40:17 ◼ ► You know a little bit of money. I don't know about that. I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9617">TS</a>]
02:40:20 ◼ ► I thought I saw banks name associated to makes me think that it's a little for people who have cash flow problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9620">TS</a>]
02:40:26 ◼ ► It's a way to like it's just it's just a loan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9626">TS</a>]
02:40:29 ◼ ► Like we will give you make these payments there is some interest so it is more expensive in the long run than paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9629">TS</a>]
02:40:35 ◼ ► for it all front but if you don't have the cash to pay for it all up front and break your contract or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9635">TS</a>]
02:40:40 ◼ ► Someone seems like someone's making money oh this is not seem like something that would be done at the goodness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9640">TS</a>]
02:40:44 ◼ ► anyone's heart to let you get a new phone every year for less money it's got to be of the same money or more money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9644">TS</a>]
02:40:50 ◼ ► But you're not that is a good idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9650">TS</a>]
02:40:51 ◼ ► People have cash flow problems and they want have a new phone every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9651">TS</a>]
02:40:55 ◼ ► or even just for convenience for people who have plenty of money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9655">TS</a>]
02:40:57 ◼ ► Like the groupers of the world who risk their going to get a photo bring every year and don't want to think about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9657">TS</a>]
02:41:03 ◼ ► But for me what I thought about is what I really like the seven S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9663">TS</a>]
02:41:06 ◼ ► Me it comes on I don't like it then like I'm a you don't have to get the I can keep going through the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9666">TS</a>]
02:41:11 ◼ ► but I just feel like I want to on a program I would. I would stay away friend just you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9671">TS</a>]
02:41:15 ◼ ► Reserve the right to keep a phone for like four years of I really hate. Certain round of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9675">TS</a>]
02:41:20 ◼ ► I Phones But again I say I was just being someone who was sad that my phone. Now sucks because it's not a success. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9680">TS</a>]
02:41:26 ◼ ► Yeah. Isn't that isn't that terrible. So you're not going to get yourself a success. Now I'm not going to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9686">TS</a>]
02:41:31 ◼ ► I mean I'm Macas eight years overground lot of pretty good at what I use is the promise of the as yet undefined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9691">TS</a>]
02:41:41 ◼ ► I have no idea what the seventy AD like but it can be amazing and that will give me the fantasy of the seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9701">TS</a>]
02:41:46 ◼ ► Yeah I mean you're going to want that next year. You know that. Well I'm going to get the seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9706">TS</a>]
02:41:50 ◼ ► You know I'll not get my wife to get the second. I don't get it. So everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9710">TS</a>]
02:41:54 ◼ ► I'm actually I'm as much as I as I read on I actually am looking forward to. To the star three D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9714">TS</a>]
02:42:02 ◼ ► TUCKER going to pay for stocks did Apple just realize it's a creepy name just not using it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9722">TS</a>]
02:42:07 ◼ ► and the keynote as well it's probably been forced touching to like the marking people decided three weeks ago that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9727">TS</a>]
02:42:15 ◼ ► and everyone else at Apple keeps calling for such before is force which is always a terrible creepy name but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9735">TS</a>]
02:42:21 ◼ ► So you know whatever of recalling those shortcuts three D. Talked it over there I'm looking forward to that as a user. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9741">TS</a>]
02:42:27 ◼ ► Because you know. A That cuts down on having to reach for edges and corners. Which makes larger phones more usable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9747">TS</a>]
02:42:35 ◼ ► Including both the six. And the six plus for people whose hands are normally sized. So I'm looking forward to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9755">TS</a>]
02:42:41 ◼ ► Just as a user just like you know let me try to think that and of course as a developer I think you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9761">TS</a>]
02:42:46 ◼ ► Usually every developer. Myself included rationalizes hardware purchases. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9766">TS</a>]
02:42:52 ◼ ► Unnecessarily by saying will I need this for testing. So I do it can make my app better and you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9772">TS</a>]
02:42:58 ◼ ► Sometimes that's true. Lot of times it's not. I think in this case that actually might be more true than usual. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9778">TS</a>]
02:43:08 ◼ ► Texting takes off which it probably will because it's a really comeon shortcut on the most frequently used computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9788">TS</a>]
02:43:13 ◼ ► most of us use. So if it takes off and it doesn't suck the way John you know you said a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9793">TS</a>]
02:43:18 ◼ ► You know you could theoretically flake out and be a reliable but if it's good and. If it works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9798">TS</a>]
02:43:24 ◼ ► I think it's going to be a pretty big deal for app design. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9804">TS</a>]
02:43:27 ◼ ► And so I think developers should should be paying attention to more than usual for an i Phone release of this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9807">TS</a>]
02:43:32 ◼ ► But we're probably going to buy it anyway. One question. I didn't read in pain of attention. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9812">TS</a>]
02:43:38 ◼ ► Does the i Pad Pro have three touch. And if not why not. I don't think it does. They didn't mention that it all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9818">TS</a>]
02:43:47 ◼ ► Like there's a stylus the presidents the reason the stylus right it's not in the screen yes a slender standing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9827">TS</a>]
02:43:53 ◼ ► The person's to every seems to be in the screen so maybe the i Pad protos doesn't have the hardware for yet it seems it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9833">TS</a>]
02:43:59 ◼ ► seems like it is not there at all anyway. Doesn't matter I mean they they can achieve it through the pen anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9839">TS</a>]
02:44:06 ◼ ► And you know one thing they can achieve it through your finger those what I'm getting at if you buy an i Pad Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9846">TS</a>]
02:44:11 ◼ ► and you press really hard an icon on your home screen i Pad Pro nothing happens right now that's a good question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9851">TS</a>]
02:44:16 ◼ ► Yeah because that. If you get used to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9856">TS</a>]
02:44:18 ◼ ► It's like that one year where they had text ID on the phone but they didn't have an i Pad Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9858">TS</a>]
02:44:23 ◼ ► Yeah and you kept it just kept pressing your finger on these little convex concave home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9863">TS</a>]
02:44:28 ◼ ► and nothing would happen like the thing is broken. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9868">TS</a>]
02:44:30 ◼ ► Yeah like once you get accustomed to that in one on one I was device yet you can't do another one that that's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9870">TS</a>]
02:44:37 ◼ ► Next year you get to get the gotta make make all the people buy a new i Pad Pro every year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9877">TS</a>]
02:44:41 ◼ ► Just the same way they buy a new MacBook every year for the same price. And we find out. So I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9881">TS</a>]
02:44:48 ◼ ► It'll be interesting to see how this house all shakes out I am a little disappointed also. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9888">TS</a>]
02:44:52 ◼ ► I had tweeted about this earlier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9892">TS</a>]
02:44:54 ◼ ► I'm a little it would even get really a chance to talk about the keyboard case much but I am disappointed that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9894">TS</a>]
02:45:00 ◼ ► It seems like there's nowhere to put the apple pencil. Anywhere in the i Pad or indicate where you can put it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9900">TS</a>]
02:45:08 ◼ ► The whole house. Quote To quote Steve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9908">TS</a>]
02:45:10 ◼ ► That Steve Jobs thing that I maybe I just imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9910">TS</a>]
02:45:13 ◼ ► but I still always think about what should I do with this I'll show you what you can do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9913">TS</a>]
02:45:18 ◼ ► When he just just plug it into the lighting board it's super convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9918">TS</a>]
02:45:21 ◼ ► and out on a tiny little metal thing it's easy to break off and stab you in the belly button. That's going to yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9921">TS</a>]
02:45:28 ◼ ► Thank God it has allegedly very good battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9928">TS</a>]
02:45:30 ◼ ► and charges very quickly because that is a recipe for just breaking those things off everywhere. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9930">TS</a>]
02:45:35 ◼ ► Or just it's another recipe for people to make art as an ill handcrafted would car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9935">TS</a>]
02:45:40 ◼ ► Like Frederick found on a beach holster is for your pen that has a Lightning connector built in will be HC started four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9940">TS</a>]
02:45:47 ◼ ► in ten minutes or they're going to sell a lot of those pens. It's a pencil not a pen. Sorry. Pencil. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9947">TS</a>]
02:45:54 ◼ ► Concentrate on the phone now. What we're talking about a Good grief you can do in a long shape. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9954">TS</a>]
02:45:59 ◼ ► They just add an ass in a box anyway. It seems like you you want to talk about about the phone Katie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9959">TS</a>]
02:46:05 ◼ ► They are moving to four K. Video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9965">TS</a>]
02:46:07 ◼ ► And that's kind of exciting and also scary since it's still being sold in sixteen gigs and you do the math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9967">TS</a>]
02:46:16 ◼ ► and say after you have the zero S. and All the standard apps and stalled. How. How much four K. Video can you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9976">TS</a>]
02:46:23 ◼ ► It depends on the bit rate but I can tell you it's probably on the order of about ten minutes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9983">TS</a>]
02:46:28 ◼ ► I thought somebody did the math and said thirty that was an inclusive of the O.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9988">TS</a>]
02:46:31 ◼ ► Also some some talking real time follow up. It is a self are crystal lens cover as per the specs page. Nice right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9991">TS</a>]
02:46:37 ◼ ► So never mind that press. I mean. And yeah four K. Video is huge I mean the fact is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/9997">TS</a>]
02:46:42 ◼ ► You can look at the entire rest of their lineup. Where like the i Phone. Their flagship product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10002">TS</a>]
02:46:49 ◼ ► That makes them the most money has the Sting's year storage pricing and not the lowest prices to start by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10009">TS</a>]
02:46:56 ◼ ► Like you know this is still like a six hundred or a device the stingiest storage out of the whole lineup. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10016">TS</a>]
02:47:02 ◼ ► And there is no other explanation for this you like I heard like I was talking to two friends the Sharon a Richie a he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10022">TS</a>]
02:47:10 ◼ ► were he just wrote a article about this was a lot to find a link in the show it's of like why are they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10030">TS</a>]
02:47:15 ◼ ► or why might they still use sixteen. Sixty four one twenty eight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10035">TS</a>]
02:47:18 ◼ ► And this some kind of like a difference in RAM types in like the Flash RAM type. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10038">TS</a>]
02:47:24 ◼ ► That's available for like one of them cheap one of the expensive and not available new capacities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10044">TS</a>]
02:47:28 ◼ ► or whatever so that that that could be a reason.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10048">TS</a>]
02:47:31 ◼ ► You know with the i Phone they have to do things in such large volume compared to the other products over the Z. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10051">TS</a>]
02:47:36 ◼ ► The reason is because the six did. That's the answer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10056">TS</a>]
02:47:39 ◼ ► Why did the success do it because six in any and then you ask why did the six do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10059">TS</a>]
02:47:42 ◼ ► and then you can get into the RAM types and the size and a lot of stuff but it's a shame it way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10062">TS</a>]
02:47:49 ◼ ► And they were as you know their life's not our problem is Apple's job to figure out how to help make products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10069">TS</a>]
02:47:52 ◼ ► aren't crappy Right and. And they sell lots of thirty two gig flash products that very cheap prices. So you know it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10072">TS</a>]
02:47:58 ◼ ► It is not like they can't do it. And I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10078">TS</a>]
02:48:02 ◼ ► I think the real reason here is just because they know that it drives up the average selling price of their most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10082">TS</a>]
02:48:09 ◼ ► profitable most successful product that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10089">TS</a>]
02:48:12 ◼ ► That has to be the answer you know they know that top as I'd been never break that down for us like we assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10092">TS</a>]
02:48:16 ◼ ► and like with the whole anchoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10096">TS</a>]
02:48:17 ◼ ► and Slike Well I don't want the smaller I don't want the big on the middle one with the middle one of the you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10097">TS</a>]
02:48:22 ◼ ► the whole irony thing is that surely a thing. Apple probably does know but I don't think we can know unless maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10102">TS</a>]
02:48:27 ◼ ► Again Horace knows who he does some crazy algebra. To solve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10107">TS</a>]
02:48:31 ◼ ► Simultaneous series of equations to figure out exactly how many sixteen's But like I don't know the mix is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10111">TS</a>]
02:48:37 ◼ ► sixteen just seems like I'm on i Phone and i want to get out. I want the cheapest i Phone possible. It used to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10117">TS</a>]
02:48:42 ◼ ► You guys are or mac users in the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10122">TS</a>]
02:48:44 ◼ ► when even i Phone is the best selling product in the Apple product line used to be the most expensive one it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10124">TS</a>]
02:48:51 ◼ ► like I'm around like this The Phantom Menace trailer was downloaded Apple is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10131">TS</a>]
02:48:55 ◼ ► And most people downloaded the biggest version the trick like well. No Double Star Wars fans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10135">TS</a>]
02:49:01 ◼ ► Given a choice of what size would you like to see the trailer heard the new Star Wars where you were getting your whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10141">TS</a>]
02:49:06 ◼ ► life for the biggest is the answer and so used to be. What's the best selling Apple laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10146">TS</a>]
02:49:12 ◼ ► The most expensive model not counting seventeen This is presenting. But that changed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10152">TS</a>]
02:49:16 ◼ ► Many years ago when Apple became more of a mass market thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10156">TS</a>]
02:49:19 ◼ ► and now I don't know if that's the case maybe it still is like where you feel like all the five as is obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10159">TS</a>]
02:49:24 ◼ ► best selling phone. But doesn't get into capacities. Sixteen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10164">TS</a>]
02:49:29 ◼ ► Are people like I really want i Phone six and the cheapest way I can get it is sixteen like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10169">TS</a>]
02:49:33 ◼ ► I worry that it that size is sucking people in because they really want the. The new i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10173">TS</a>]
02:49:39 ◼ ► And that's the cheapest way they can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10179">TS</a>]
02:49:41 ◼ ► and there's just this is not a good product if you like happening aside undermine resources aside that product gives a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10181">TS</a>]
02:49:48 ◼ ► persistently bad experience in ways that are super frustrating to regular people sick thing gigs is not a pro. It. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10188">TS</a>]
02:49:55 ◼ ► I couldn't agree more and I feel. This is all anecdotal but I feel like more and more regular people that I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10195">TS</a>]
02:50:02 ◼ ► Have lamented to me. Just in general or because I am. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10202">TS</a>]
02:50:07 ◼ ► That Apple guy they know about how Apple is written terrible software because they can't upgrade their O.-S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10207">TS</a>]
02:50:15 ◼ ► and Their phone is always full and everything's always broken and it's all Apple's fault. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10215">TS</a>]
02:50:19 ◼ ► And explaining to them that they bought a cheap phone doesn't usually and well so. And it is about like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10219">TS</a>]
02:50:26 ◼ ► Here's a thing like every phone is going to run out of space eventually if you filled with stuff like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10226">TS</a>]
02:50:30 ◼ ► But we know the failure mode is so bad and we know regular people have no idea what to do. Like and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10230">TS</a>]
02:50:35 ◼ ► I Cloud thing is another example of that it's the dollars box keeps on not tell me I can't back up with like all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10235">TS</a>]
02:50:42 ◼ ► You just gotta try to find a sweet spot where most people fit within it and sixteen is not sixteen just to love. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10242">TS</a>]
02:50:48 ◼ ► I mean they keep making these like for cave video the size of the pictures and now you're still pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10248">TS</a>]
02:50:53 ◼ ► or also videos. Forget it like sixteen gigs. Just terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10253">TS</a>]
02:50:58 ◼ ► It's to understand why they're probably kind of stuck with it for the sex. And I kind of understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10258">TS</a>]
02:51:04 ◼ ► The RAM thing to be good at making the battery smaller that's not the time to add more RAM. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10264">TS</a>]
02:51:11 ◼ ► In the seven I really helped I'm super excited about the i Pad for having four gigs like that shows that maybe someone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10271">TS</a>]
02:51:18 ◼ ► You know Couldn't have to like I think you could maybe get away with it with two gigs. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10278">TS</a>]
02:51:22 ◼ ► But like four gigs after the i Pad Air two had to that's a positive trend I really helping sort out with that I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10282">TS</a>]
02:51:29 ◼ ► we're mixing RAM and memory kind of like who was a did that make you know Phil Schiller somebody. Ram and storage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10289">TS</a>]
02:51:35 ◼ ► But anyway. Both on both those fronts. They've both been problematic for different reasons. Sixteen gigs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10295">TS</a>]
02:51:42 ◼ ► Friends don't let friends by the sixteen gig. I Phone six S. They should have like a fund. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10302">TS</a>]
02:51:47 ◼ ► Just a giant pool or a tech nerds who will lose sleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10307">TS</a>]
02:51:51 ◼ ► If people they know have sixteen gig don't just put money in a giant pot.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10311">TS</a>]
02:51:54 ◼ ► And every time something goes that Apple store and buy the sixteen gig six six S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10314">TS</a>]
02:51:57 ◼ ► The Apple personal said oh and by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10317">TS</a>]
02:51:59 ◼ ► Even though you've chosen a sixteen gig mom about to give me your credit card I can pull money out of the giant jar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10319">TS</a>]
02:52:04 ◼ ► and give you thirty two because no one should own a sixteen. All right so the only other thing that I thought was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10324">TS</a>]
02:52:12 ◼ ► Well that I thought at this hour the night was really interesting about the. The six. S's. Is this live. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10332">TS</a>]
02:52:20 ◼ ► What they call my photos that are the photos you know the Harry Potter photos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10340">TS</a>]
02:52:24 ◼ ► I can't decide if this is freaking brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10344">TS</a>]
02:52:27 ◼ ► or the cheesiest like animated a Moji thing that I've seen since animated a Moshi I think it's nice especially. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10347">TS</a>]
02:52:36 ◼ ► I found this too I find myself not regretting how many pictures I've taken of my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10356">TS</a>]
02:52:40 ◼ ► but wishing I had more video video just seems more onerous to me and this is a nice sort of compromise that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10360">TS</a>]
02:52:46 ◼ ► Like I would use this feature had it because I like to have a little bit of. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10366">TS</a>]
02:52:51 ◼ ► I like to see them in motion hear what the squeaky little voices sound like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10371">TS</a>]
02:52:55 ◼ ► I have video of plenty of idio but I feel like I wish I had more video. And I think I've got them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10375">TS</a>]
02:53:00 ◼ ► Photographically cover by which I'm already on of this is the way to get more people to take more video you just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10380">TS</a>]
02:53:04 ◼ ► if you say and feel like. What was your kid like. When he or she was five or two or seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10384">TS</a>]
02:53:11 ◼ ► And just gives enough of a flavor of it to feel like especially since their sound. Involved in that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10391">TS</a>]
02:53:16 ◼ ► I don't think you take every picture like this especially got a sixteen gig phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10396">TS</a>]
02:53:20 ◼ ► But it's cute I don't I don't like the fact that you have to like press hard and it goes all blurring comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10400">TS</a>]
02:53:25 ◼ ► and I don't like that whole interaction. For doing this. Yeah. But I like the idea that it. You know. Takes video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10405">TS</a>]
02:53:33 ◼ ► It's one of the fun things you can do never really fast processor. In your phone. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10413">TS</a>]
02:53:38 ◼ ► They said a couple times I'm pretty sure this is the case that. Those are twelve megapixel videos.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10418">TS</a>]
02:53:44 ◼ ► Which is higher resolution than four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10424">TS</a>]
02:53:47 ◼ ► So they're actually like that that little video clip you're getting there is better than what you can get for can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10427">TS</a>]
02:53:53 ◼ ► Sure that they on on actual expensive dedicated cameras for a long time it was you know a high end future to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10433">TS</a>]
02:54:00 ◼ ► and while you're shooting video you can shoot stills in the middle of the video like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10440">TS</a>]
02:54:04 ◼ ► Phones have crappy processors or whatever but at a certain point even the crappy processors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10444">TS</a>]
02:54:08 ◼ ► and dedicated phones were fast enough and surely of A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10448">TS</a>]
02:54:10 ◼ ► and nine is plenty fast enough to do this for limited amounts of time Bob Of all the so it's perfect for this feature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10450">TS</a>]
02:54:15 ◼ ► Like they've got the camera. They've got the capacity. The not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10455">TS</a>]
02:54:18 ◼ ► It's not like it's taking like zero of than your photos going to be like seven twenty P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10458">TS</a>]
02:54:22 ◼ ► or Whatever you're human four K. Full rez the whole time. But for a short period of time. I think it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10462">TS</a>]
02:54:28 ◼ ► Honestly before the event based on just the rumors we had heard I was not that excited about the i Phone six S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10468">TS</a>]
02:54:34 ◼ ► and I was actually thinking about not getting one for the first time I have the the first i Phone of ever skipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10474">TS</a>]
02:54:38 ◼ ► regional. Yeah. But. But you know I also I'm not going to buy a watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10478">TS</a>]
02:54:43 ◼ ► Right exactly and you know I can buy an Apple T.V. or An i Pad Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10483">TS</a>]
02:54:47 ◼ ► One of those I think will be true I'm not sure what it's worth I think it has not given I promise I'm sure right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10487">TS</a>]
02:54:52 ◼ ► the very of my many for. That is very very likely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10492">TS</a>]
02:54:56 ◼ ► Isn't it isn't it weird by the way that this is the first year where the. The tending sized i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10496">TS</a>]
02:55:05 ◼ ► And also didn't get a price try to dig at a price I didn't know the heir to is the same as last year's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10505">TS</a>]
02:55:12 ◼ ► and it's still the same as maybe they already here anyway the air too was so over spec going to introduce it has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10512">TS</a>]
02:55:18 ◼ ► headroom. It's interesting that we are now. We're now back to the point where we were when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10518">TS</a>]
02:55:22 ◼ ► When the Red many was first launched cases blood the retina Pad mini. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10522">TS</a>]
02:55:27 ◼ ► We're back to the point now where the only difference between the many and the big one is size and hundred dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10527">TS</a>]
02:55:34 ◼ ► That's as it should be I feel like you know the same thing like I think it's appropriate for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10534">TS</a>]
02:55:38 ◼ ► Or the success to have to exert RAM and I think that's true of the soul everything's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10538">TS</a>]
02:55:42 ◼ ► Everything's Coming Up Milhouse even even the color like you know is going to painkillers a stink screenshot so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10542">TS</a>]
02:55:47 ◼ ► not that we think well. All right and wrong. It's not pink. It's a rose gold. But the Rose Bowl that's pink. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10547">TS</a>]
02:55:54 ◼ ► All right so the hell the make of that trying to wrap it up based on what we've seen today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10554">TS</a>]
02:56:00 ◼ ► What do you guys planning on buying out of these products Casey. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10560">TS</a>]
02:56:04 ◼ ► I am pretty sure that I'm going to be getting a new retina Pad Mini I might try to hold on until I can play with an i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10564">TS</a>]
02:56:14 ◼ ► Pad Pro just so I know that I'm making the right decision. But I will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10574">TS</a>]
02:56:18 ◼ ► I will be stunned if I decide no no no I want to thirteen inch i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10578">TS</a>]
02:56:22 ◼ ► I absolutely will be getting Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10582">TS</a>]
02:56:24 ◼ ► and I both a success we are not crazy people so we are not get it we are not part of the plus club. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10584">TS</a>]
02:56:29 ◼ ► and fifty fifty on the Apple T.V. Sitting here now going to say no which means yes I just haven't realized it. John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10589">TS</a>]
02:56:39 ◼ ► I'm definitely getting the Apple two hundred percent of the i Pad Pro. I can see myself getting it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10599">TS</a>]
02:56:47 ◼ ► and see I what I really get I'm totally gung ho for the I bet Pro I want this project just not sure I'm going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10607">TS</a>]
02:56:54 ◼ ► one to buy it I would love every single feature on it i Pad Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10614">TS</a>]
02:56:57 ◼ ► And i Pad air tire size device with a thicker border around the screen for me to grab and I think that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10617">TS</a>]
02:57:02 ◼ ► but that probably doesn't exist. Have to evaluate the i Pad Pro. I am I get it because I'm i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10622">TS</a>]
02:57:11 ◼ ► I Pad three Going to a lot to do with these days I do a lot more and my phone because just so much faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10631">TS</a>]
02:57:18 ◼ ► So I will I will definitely check it out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10638">TS</a>]
02:57:20 ◼ ► No new watches for made no success for me my wife will probably get a success. And I will be buying a new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10640">TS</a>]
02:57:30 ◼ ► To find I are both going to get the six S. and The. The i Pad I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10650">TS</a>]
02:57:36 ◼ ► I mean I think I'm going to skip it I looks really interesting for people who aren't me. And it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10656">TS</a>]
02:57:42 ◼ ► It is a lot of money I think if I if I'm going to have a small device with a medium out of battery life that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10662">TS</a>]
02:57:50 ◼ ► crappy keyboard. That's really portable I think I'd get another map one. I think I did that would fit me better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10670">TS</a>]
02:57:58 ◼ ► Because I really am more of a mac person than a nice person for getting quote work done you know the kind of stuff I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10678">TS</a>]
02:58:04 ◼ ► really is better on a Mac. Even even a small slow at the back a board I'd rather have that. I think that an i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10684">TS</a>]
02:58:11 ◼ ► I forgot the crush cases up like streams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10691">TS</a>]
02:58:13 ◼ ► and I realized maybe I don't need to crush a mobile I was going to Russia was like I was assuming that you would want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10693">TS</a>]
02:58:18 ◼ ► to store the video on their own house can have local storage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10698">TS</a>]
02:58:20 ◼ ► or break you just use it as a client all the video was on yours and all a genius for transcoding on the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10700">TS</a>]
02:58:26 ◼ ► Maybe it won't crash or dreams. Yeah I will say I mean my assumption is that the Plex stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10706">TS</a>]
02:58:34 ◼ ► Would work basically as it is now which is I just remember my solid G. and That's all I need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10714">TS</a>]
02:58:39 ◼ ► But we'll see what happens. Thanks a lot to our three sponsors this week. Cards Against Humanity. Casper and fracture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10719">TS</a>]
02:58:47 ◼ ► And don't forget to check out the St Jude donation that we talked about earlier for some temper being shouted Cancer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10727">TS</a>]
02:58:53 ◼ ► Awareness Month. Thanks a lot two or three sponsors and that. And we will see you next week. Now the show is over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10733">TS</a>]
02:59:03 ◼ ► They didn't even mean to be good because it was accidental but it was accidental. JOHN KEY see with him.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10743">TS</a>]
02:59:16 ◼ ► Because it was that the death toll was accidental. And she was going to find she did a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10756">TS</a>]
02:59:27 ◼ ► And if you aren't for Twitter and. He was no says. That's keep lists and the team are cool. Take the risk you who did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10767">TS</a>]
03:00:03 ◼ ► Because I think that covers a lot of the whole I mean I didn't hear a lot of those complaining maybe because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10803">TS</a>]
03:00:09 ◼ ► Like I saw someone post like an old comic when the service came out of showing like yeah they do I thought the give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10809">TS</a>]
03:00:14 ◼ ► or cover. Guys keep our covers exist for the i Pad. You know it's not. You can you believe Apple did a thing like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10814">TS</a>]
03:00:21 ◼ ► Yep. I can tell I believe it everybody can believe it it is not a surprise. And it is not unlike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10821">TS</a>]
03:00:26 ◼ ► And if anyone is out there complaining like was Apple be like we are the first people to make it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10826">TS</a>]
03:00:31 ◼ ► No they didn't they didn't have all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10831">TS</a>]
03:00:32 ◼ ► They didn't even do their normal thing of like we think this is the best one ever and past one another once people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10832">TS</a>]
03:00:36 ◼ ► and had a crappy didn't even say that it was like I don't I saw that they did they did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10836">TS</a>]
03:00:40 ◼ ► They did not say this is the first time you've seen it but they did say this is the best when you've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10840">TS</a>]
03:00:46 ◼ ► I promise I gonna I mean is that the best the best thing they've ever made anyway whatever I just did seem like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10846">TS</a>]
03:00:53 ◼ ► and I had if people are angry about it I didn't see them in my feet are people really getting anger like people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10853">TS</a>]
03:00:57 ◼ ► made pens before Ababa like making the like they invented the pen no they weren't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10857">TS</a>]
03:01:02 ◼ ► I think the thing is it was just so egregious and so obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10862">TS</a>]
03:01:05 ◼ ► but also to the degree just like there's again like who did it first or the freakin Newton. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10865">TS</a>]
03:01:09 ◼ ► Like for crying out loud and has another company. It's the same company with Apple Apple did that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10869">TS</a>]
03:01:15 ◼ ► Like I just you know. It's like take take Touch ID is a great counter-example. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10875">TS</a>]
03:01:20 ◼ ► Touch ID was taking the same idea and making it better or better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10880">TS</a>]
03:01:24 ◼ ► or if you well let's not why not even be better it's just a keyboard cover a lot of text making for years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10884">TS</a>]
03:01:28 ◼ ► Like you know just like when it was a port. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10888">TS</a>]
03:01:30 ◼ ► Yeah you're making my point which is Touch ID It was like remember the little swipe the thing like I had I'm like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10890">TS</a>]
03:01:35 ◼ ► order to it was like that but they made it better. Whereas what they've done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10895">TS</a>]
03:01:40 ◼ ► Looks like a straight rip the surface keep it but it's not a straight rip it's like of this is the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10900">TS</a>]
03:01:44 ◼ ► when they're going to add new features to their progress not as if they didn't think you future possibly for they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10904">TS</a>]
03:01:48 ◼ ► not adding them because they weren't possible Apple had the stylist patents go on it like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10908">TS</a>]
03:01:52 ◼ ► How many years ago we've seen stylus patents like just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10912">TS</a>]
03:01:55 ◼ ► It's just like when is the right time to do this it's not like we can't figure out how to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10915">TS</a>]
03:01:59 ◼ ► or whatever it's them deciding what is the appropriate appropriate feature set for our products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10919">TS</a>]
03:02:06 ◼ ► but a little tiny bit bubbled up like seriously is this what people are on about because I didn't get that vibe at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10926">TS</a>]
03:02:11 ◼ ► from the keynote it was more was more like Iowa state where like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10931">TS</a>]
03:02:13 ◼ ► Some people couldn't get over the fact that Android had these features. Whenever also like yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10933">TS</a>]
03:02:17 ◼ ► But now I was has them and we like I was so excited to get them. And we've been saying for years they should have them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10937">TS</a>]
03:02:22 ◼ ► And they should do the. Well you're copying Android. I think is even more of a case of like Android. You know palm O.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10942">TS</a>]
03:02:28 ◼ ► or Web O.-S. For crying out loud have all of these ideas with a card metaphor in the multi has like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQDUT3c/10948">TS</a>]