The Accidental Tech Podcast

131: Finding Your Way Back In

 

  I installed the world's most expensive power switch there is a product by the [TS]

  idea company called she looks like a lot it is actually pronounced that way and [TS]

  they had a lot of products mostly headphone amps and stuff most of which I [TS]

  own or have fun at some point and they're great and they sell a product [TS]

  called the word ewwy Rd suite so she tells the word so it's the word yes so I [TS]

  have a word between my USB hub and I audio interface and the the purpose of [TS]

  the word is to provide power isolation it's basically like the USB equivalent [TS]

  of a ground loop isolator for audio ever had used one of those I can car audio [TS]

  anything I know what your friends who have never had to use on its literally [TS]

  just like to to make sure there's no like physically I think he's [TS]

  transformers or something I don't know that I don't know Johnny but you can [TS]

  explain it better more than meets the eye [TS]

  yeah basically the it electrically isolate the two sides in the case of a [TS]

  ground loop isolator of an audio signal in the case of the word of a USB signal [TS]

  and I was when I was really using the the wonderful but incredibly picky sure [TS]

  at some 70 microphone which has the same one that I made you get for his that [TS]

  neither of us using anymore for many reasons one of which is that it's just [TS]

  incredibly picky an incredibly unforgiving of room noise it's like a [TS]

  combination of you and me so anyway it one of the one of the many stupid things [TS]

  that I that I threw money at to try to fix the ESM 7 p.m. make it less lets his [TS]

  seat on the low end of the track besides I actually bought gold plated cable was [TS]

  incredibly stupid but somebody told me that these Megami XLR cables make a big [TS]

  difference in this with all studios use and of course they do what they do but [TS]

  you might have had it backwards because their directional actually XLR cables [TS]

  are kind of just because there's always like this one male one female in any way [TS]

  I'll try to make it audiophiles don't know enough about this insanity to know [TS]

  anyway that the only thing I did was I bought this figured maybe just maybe [TS]

  there's like you know some some noise coming in [TS]

  from the computer and the main reason I i have it is is it was for that but the [TS]

  reason I keep it now is because I really just like having a power switch for my [TS]

  USB port do and I could just unplug it and then plug it back into the USB port [TS]

  when I want to use it like AC is something you do but I don't want that I [TS]

  want to actual power switch so I use the word on my audio interface primarily as [TS]

  $100 power switch entirely in keeping with your whole thing I know that's why [TS]

  I I didn't want to admit this to anybody that's fine damnit I think the gold [TS]

  plated cable as more shameful yeah well I was desperate so I hear ahead this [TS]

  might everyone's telling me this mike is amazing it's awesome [TS]

  all you need is a really good preempt ok I bought a really good preamp not cheap [TS]

  and a note there still some hits the bottom is actually maybe maybe your [TS]

  cables are are introducing the XLR cables are balanced and so it is [TS]

  extremely unlikely to introduce no I don't I don't know the electrical [TS]

  details I think it might actually be impossible but it is extremely unlikely [TS]

  at any rate so but I thought you know what johnnie XLR cable it was like for [TS]

  thirty-five or forty dollars something I feel like a six-foot Mike let me just [TS]

  try it you know any other XLR cable to a dollar a foot maybe you know like this [TS]

  one doesn't like 35 let me try I'm desperate I'm not have all this noise in [TS]

  this Mike I really want to use this mike is awesome in every other way and [TS]

  everyone else seems to have no problems with that marlin use one Jason Snell [TS]

  uses one michael Jackson used one robin quivers use one everyone else has no [TS]

  problem with it so maybe I should try this and maybe no problem must be me [TS]

  know the problem is the awesome seven be and it turns out they learned later on [TS]

  after throwing lots of money in mind trying to get rid of the back on his [TS]

  behind everything if you go to share his website they actually have a little [TS]

  microphone comparison thing and their sample has the hiss too and it turns out [TS]

  that I don't know the details of how this works again I'm not an electrical [TS]

  engineer John almost is right the computer engineering thing you explain [TS]

  it on your show me as well so you to KCNA your computer engineer [TS]

  ok so you should both be telling me but basically there is inherent noise in an [TS]

  in any given amount of resistance and the the inherent resistance of the S and [TS]

  70 it is so low output it needs so much gain that just the inherent resistance [TS]

  in it makes it even even with perfectly clean gain there will always be a [TS]

  certain base level of noise in every Mike and yes 17 B is so incredibly gain [TS]

  hungry and need so much going to be audible so I put that that base level of [TS]

  noise is always audible so there is no way to make some 70 noiseless so all [TS]

  that money was mostly wasted all that hassle was was a huge pain in the ass [TS]

  and huge waste of time money and effort and aggravation and now use a different [TS]

  Mike which is way cheaper and better and you can't so that's what I was doing so [TS]

  my my step in my first two steps were converted everything lined up and then I [TS]

  would bring in each of our tracks into Adobe Audition because there's no most [TS]

  most way better programs will have some kind of thing where you can you can [TS]

  select a portion of silence that it contains busily only noise like when the [TS]

  person not talking and mute switch yet so a section of the traffic be the only [TS]

  know you can select that you get a profile this and then in the whole track [TS]

  remove that profile of noise density has one of these it's really not very good [TS]

  at least a lot of audible artifacts in it but edition has a really good one [TS]

  adobe audition for all three of our tracks I would bring them in there and I [TS]

  would noise profile the hell out of them to really get rid of that the problem is [TS]

  it's not a perfect removal it it still does leave little bit of a select in the [TS]

  silence you wouldn't hear it [TS]

  between somebody's words but lake as they would talk you would hear the noise [TS]

  coming out a little bit and it was very subtle but just drove me nuts because it [TS]

  really end like this is like there's a some some portion and a sound so possess [TS]

  similar kind of thing everyone has you know there are things that they that [TS]

  they had like the use but all these things were the same way but they always [TS]

  leave a little bit of are defecting and there are eight you can't perfectly [TS]

  remove it basically [TS]

  or at least that really muscling the sound of house was not willing to do so [TS]

  yes you can remove noise but not perfectly and it's better to eliminate [TS]

  the source of noise in the first place anyway I'm using a new mic tonight so [TS]

  that I don't see them using it but sometimes testy test different mics for [TS]

  review also after you told me to get there from seven be and then you said [TS]

  nononononono get the crap what is the beta something something I first told [TS]

  you to get the beta 58 a cause that's cuz I I had used that I got on like oh [TS]

  my god this is amazing and then afterwards like two weeks later a month [TS]

  later I told you wait to return that because I just discovered the day 287 a [TS]

  which is way better than the 58 a it it sounds a lot nicer to me and it has none [TS]

  has no downside like what makes the beta so great is that they have incredibly [TS]

  high output so this is this is all do a quick side on here if you ask people [TS]

  about microphones usually you're gonna hear from people who know certain ones [TS]

  are like the classics as microphones don't change very often like this I [TS]

  think came out in 1987 and you know most of the betas came out in the nineties [TS]

  like there's Mikes don't change very often they don't come out with new [TS]

  models all time and many of them have been around for twenty thirty years all [TS]

  of them have some kind you know all the all the well-known ones have some kind [TS]

  of history of over this image views on these alibi these singers and and or [TS]

  this and that this is this has been a radio studios for three decades they all [TS]

  have these these these backgrounds of being classics being well-known and so [TS]

  if you if you actually get recommendations often recommend these [TS]

  classical nice because they have like nostalgia or because they have [TS]

  reputation from forever ago the problem is in the nineties 22 now there's been a [TS]

  huge movement towards and I B magnet driven Mikes rather than the old [TS]

  tenement this up like the newest model many of them have switched over to use [TS]

  those and Mikes the debate that are made with those usually have WAY higher [TS]

  output levels and so therefore away higher signal-to-noise ratio so way [TS]

  lower noise [TS]

  and so usually the the microphones that were recommended for years of the old [TS]

  kind and they are heading to use for trying to get rid of the background [TS]

  noise or had no time to begin with especially if you're not in a [TS]

  professional studio and the new ones are usually way better but no one [TS]

  recommending them because you know how many people buy more than one podcast [TS]

  might even do a comparison and if you ask people online you'll hear from [TS]

  recording engineers have been working in studio four thirty years no tell you all [TS]

  the old ones so that's why I'm working on a microphone review anyway it's funny [TS]

  because the 58 a.m. rocking I think I might be a day that I'm rocking when we [TS]

  were recording I think it was analyzed two or three weeks ago all of a sudden [TS]

  Aaron comes like bombing in the room which is extremely abnormal so of course [TS]

  I'm thinking like that when is your death or something like that [TS]

  well she goes reaching behind my laptop screen and I thought well okay that's [TS]

  fine but weird well it turns out that our house phone which never rings except [TS]

  for telemarketers was ringing for telemarketer I'm sitting literally three [TS]

  feet from it I had no idea and to the best of my knowledge I don't believe [TS]

  that even came through on the track and this is like two or three feet from [TS]

  where the microphone is that's how unbelievably good 2:58 a.m. sophie Dee [TS]

  seven days even better I don't even know what to say but that's just phenomenal [TS]

  right the city 78 basically it has all the advantages of the 58 A which is [TS]

  insane background noise reduction and they are super cardioid so they're very [TS]

  unforgiving if you move side to side or if you back up like you lose volume very [TS]

  quickly but in a practical home podcast studio that's actually really good thing [TS]

  because you're probably working in your home office or other things in your [TS]

  house they might make noise and so it really is nice to have extreme [TS]

  back-burner Jackson and you know the cost that is you have to be pretty on [TS]

  top of them I oh well you know that's it's pretty easy to stand above my pay [TS]

  attention so and it's easier than trying to eliminate every source of noise and a [TS]

  typical house for most people see 278 has all of that same characteristic but [TS]

  better sound quality is the the problem 250 a day is that it really is kind of [TS]

  muffled sounding [TS]

  and kind of flabby and in the lower mid that that makes sense upper base like it [TS]

  kind of sounds like really big and do me a little bit too much and and took a [TS]

  seat for UIUC cue that out but sometimes like many other podcast sometimes they [TS]

  don't think he went out and he should be using an antique you can only do so much [TS]

  to like you know given a lot of people want to learn a little bit they think oh [TS]

  it's all about frequency response curves and you can just make any mics and like [TS]

  any other Mike by just adjusting the EQ and no it doesn't work that way to other [TS]

  variables yeah anyway that's it from ickes that's all I have I i dont need is [TS]

  going to shows this is this is really into baseball we should follow up and [TS]

  let's start with Intel sky lake and how apparently they're cheating question we [TS]

  discussed it last time I kinda getting the power savings because we hadn't [TS]

  heard any of the details and certainly not all details are out but some of the [TS]

  other end of the typical Intel trickle of information about their chips are [TS]

  selecting a good story about this in the shadow of what it comes down to the talk [TS]

  about these things that make it go faster it's a little bit wider is a [TS]

  little bit more instructions in flight a little bit more power was in the context [TS]

  track but the power savings is just more of the same stuff but it's cool like [TS]

  Intel processors in a process for a long time have the ability to throw [TS]

  themselves down to slower speeds when they when they don't need to be used in [TS]

  crimes up when they need to be used and they do this on a scale that makes sense [TS]

  to see be used like a lot of people conceptualize you like okay and when [TS]

  when like my audio compression thing finishes and I started using the mouse [TS]

  then like couple seconds later the CPU drops down to a slower speed and then [TS]

  when I run a photoshop filter runs too fast that's human scale CBU scale the [TS]

  CDs are using now they change frequency in intensive milliseconds right so tell [TS]

  you about your instructions realize there's not that much more do or the [TS]

  operating system will save them there's not much more to do and able 30 [TS]

  milliseconds later go into a slower speed mode so they're they're going fast [TS]

  or slow fascist lower many times in a single second [TS]

  and the operating system is involved because some indication of everything [TS]

  that's ok I'm going to energy-saving mode of the ECB's trying to save energy [TS]

  as he doesn't think it has a lot of jobs to schedule and it's you know like the [TS]

  CPU usage is OK to scale down I can suck my work done that type of thing [TS]

  well in the sky like CPUs rather than having the operating system communicate [TS]

  back and forth the text which takes a long time to get to get the message in a [TS]

  relatively speaking on a scale milliseconds takes a long time for the [TS]

  operating system to figure out that things are kinda chillin down on the [TS]

  computer [TS]

  tell the CPU hey there's not that many processes want the CPU as compared to a [TS]

  few moments ago so it's okay for you to crack down send that signal the CPU CPU [TS]

  get CBO honors it and then things may change intervals so instead Galaxy views [TS]

  are taking over this responsibility so they can change their games in one [TS]

  millisecond from faster or slower on a millisecond millisecond basis the CPU [TS]

  can decide how you know what what it costs to be and then there's the usual [TS]

  stuff turning off execution units when they're not used to doing more of that [TS]

  more granular like if no one is using the ABX two extensions just turn the [TS]

  unit off entirely because tends to be user specialized purposes the caching a [TS]

  little bit to redistribute that memories are forecast to put the cash out farther [TS]

  from the chip so it can be there with the EDRM cash that some of these chips [TS]

  can have inside them can be used its cache coherent all the time so it can be [TS]

  used by the parts of the system like the graphics system and everything but the [TS]

  orange one more thing is that you can go way way down apparently down to a [TS]

  hundred maker but the process either using the leakage current becomes a [TS]

  factor like how much electricity just going through these things even when [TS]

  they're supposedly off and so this kind of like driving a car is like an optimum [TS]

  fuel mileage like the optimum speed for getting the best fuel mileage is not one [TS]

  mile an hour is not a hundred miles an hour somewhere between their welfare CPU [TS]

  doesn't optimum like how to empower using [TS]

  speed so it's easy to go really really fast then obviously using tons of power [TS]

  because the power usage is like this the square of the the frequency or whatever [TS]

  but if you go super slow you think it's a great way to go slower to square the [TS]

  frequency with a slower and slower to save more and more power but there's a [TS]

  certain amount of leakage that happens all the time if you are super slow it's [TS]

  going to take you longer to do the calculations of you go down two hundred [TS]

  megahertz always undertaking you ten hundred times as long to do the [TS]

  acylation which means you are staying in the hundred megahertz mode for a really [TS]

  long time and during the whole time you have all the leakage of all of the [TS]

  transistors that that are you know powered up and you know that's how we're [TS]

  going to them even if they're in the off position so you want to find the sweet [TS]

  spot where you get the work done as possible but you keep the the clock [TS]

  speed as low as possible and there is nothing the CPU to try to find that sort [TS]

  of mileage sweet spot in the car analogy is no stuff in there as well people just [TS]

  read the article I just tried to summarize it did a bad job but anyway [TS]

  Intel will be clever people it sounds like this could be a pretty big deal [TS]

  though i mean the the early reports that we're seeing from earlier reviews rumors [TS]

  tipsters here and they're all basically saying this is probably going to be a [TS]

  really big deal in power save ya and this is a type of stuff where you can [TS]

  imagine like this is like seeing CPUs a healthy systems for throwing the chips [TS]

  out faster and slower and saying we're going to show up this section the [TS]

  chaplain is not use themselves been doing that for years and years and years [TS]

  and there's always something we're like you have an established system we're in [TS]

  this power mode the operating system can you get to the chip is like a great [TS]

  feature like where they came up with that you know several key provisions ago [TS]

  it sounds like the best thing since sliced bread but as those chips go out [TS]

  there they realize now if you wanna squeeze any more power out of it [TS]

  the limiting factor is that lag between when the operating system to terms that [TS]

  we should slow down to when we actually saw down [TS]

  during that time so much might have changed in the instruction stream that [TS]

  actually we might not be speeding up to that point mister part when we should [TS]

  slow down but you can't make that kind of change its significant it requires a [TS]

  pic whatever the hell it requires the things you make a you know architectural [TS]

  change because that's not a small change saying we're going to do it all and [TS]

  SCHIP vs Oregon the operating system communicate these things all the time so [TS]

  you just can't I gotta wait for the next big revision for them to try an entirely [TS]

  different strategy and things like what was in the process I was down 49 metres [TS]

  suddenly the leakage is the likud karen is a big problem and so now we have to [TS]

  actually find that sweet spot we can't just say you know at lower frequencies [TS]

  are always better because not true anymore you want to blowing you take too [TS]

  long and you just leaking chipset weird and getting weirder all the time but I [TS]

  like looks like all the ideas they had they known they should have done in the [TS]

  past year revisions you gotta wait because these things take years and [TS]

  years to get design and tape out it's a speaking part where do you want to tell [TS]

  us about ECC RAM because apparently we have all the things to talk about with [TS]

  regard to you see some more good news on the CD rom from the world's most [TS]

  interesting podcast I'm so excited I think this is this is good stuff it's [TS]

  interesting to us [TS]

  yeah i know im I'm excited free file system until 2017 or whatever but I have [TS]

  the tide me over so anonymous source talking about EC RAM he RAM as as we [TS]

  know it and discuss that require support from memory controller is basically [TS]

  about the RAM chips have an extra thing on the note the parity information and [TS]

  it sends all the information out to the memory controller and memory controller [TS]

  said you sent me to the info here is the parent info enable use the parody and [TS]

  voted to determine if there are any problems and correct the problems that [TS]

  can that's why they're correcting code to the Wikipedia page NEC Code a parody [TS]

  of how it works but it's up to the memory told you that he gets all the [TS]

  info from the chip reconcile that all correct any errors and passes it on and [TS]

  that's what that's what I've got in my MacPro that's all the Mac Pro [TS]

  that's the future that I want their er correcting ability to correct a small [TS]

  errors and ran that happen [TS]

  increasingly will get to this happen much more frequently but sorry for [TS]

  interruption interestingly the current Mac Pro while it has allegedly [TS]

  workstation GPUs they don't use ECC RAM on the GPUs and there's been a lot of [TS]

  problems with the with the 2013 under Mac Pro and the GPUs in it and you know [TS]

  maybe if you put you know six gigs or whatever BC GPU RAM in there would be a [TS]

  lot more expensive in all likelihood that's why they didn't do it but it is [TS]

  kind of unfortunate that isn't even an option on the current macro [TS]

  wasn't there something about the GPU also not really being one of the protein [TS]

  views being more like a souped-up consume one of the consumer GB is yet [TS]

  it's basically a gaming GPU thats rebranded and adjusted slightly it's [TS]

  late and it's unfortunate against like that the computer that so under dressed [TS]

  me nuts he really doesn't like I there in so many ways I want one in so many [TS]

  ways it's terrible and like Apple keeps narrowing like certain product lines [TS]

  like the new MacBook one day and the new Mac Pro they keep narrowing further and [TS]

  further the question of who is this for [TS]

  and I don't I think they're going a little too far with that a lot of times [TS]

  and with a lot of these modern product that lead there by nearby keeping [TS]

  narrowing an airing everything and and making it for fewer people like the old [TS]

  Mac Pro was for a lot of potential people I mean it was always expensive [TS]

  compared to the other ones but it was basically a generic tower you know with [TS]

  Apple made made of Apple hardware it was like a generic but you know it was it [TS]

  was a tower it was you could do anything you wanted to really to be inside you [TS]

  could be in lots of different figure options for lots of different types of [TS]

  needs ranging all the way from power user geeks all the way up to video [TS]

  editors and special installations and other than that whereas the new Mac Pro [TS]

  just cuts off so much of that because it is so specialized they really like they [TS]

  lopped off a huge part of the market [TS]

  with the MacBook wanna still get the same kind of thing where it's you know a [TS]

  lot of people like it it looks really cool it feels great it's very portable [TS]

  but some of the decisions they made which didn't seem entirely necessary [TS]

  we'll be talking about these things lots all wrapped up but some of the decisions [TS]

  they made with the MacBook 18 cut off so much the potential market for maybe [TS]

  looks baby i mean there's some there's some benefits here and there but in the [TS]

  case of the Mac Pro it's just like the ad said they push the human race [TS]

  lowered its just they didn't do you didn't do an awesome job on it like it's [TS]

  a little bit I can't think of the first the first years greater the PowerMac g5 [TS]

  mine had a chirping power supply and still does it is it's an addict [TS]

  somewhere that sounds like the the 2013 Mac Pro Model issues with that machine [TS]

  is a software related issues especially if you try to run the thing with a [TS]

  Retina Display attached to it just mentioned the GPU issues that doesn't [TS]

  like it's supposed to be this workstation class machine doesn't have [TS]

  ECC VRAM and other problems with the GPUs are talking about the failure rate [TS]

  for whatever just wait for vision to you the five-game like you have right now [TS]

  have the same problem in terms of the GPU overheating when you try to play [TS]

  games just play games you don't care but yeah [TS]

  vision to know I'm honestly like I my review of the of the iMac 5 k1 roughly [TS]

  one year it came out last october is almost one year in my review of the five [TS]

  k iMac is I have 0 plans like it is great [TS]

  like yeah I would love it if the family's silent under fold handbrake [TS]

  transcoding load like the macrocosm the iMac it is audible but that's it like it [TS]

  is a maze hehe other possible way [TS]

  GPO and the screen is so good that it makes every other screen including the [TS]

  15 inch Retina MacBook Pro look muddy by comparison like it is so it has like the [TS]

  same way the retina MacBook Pro ruined every of the screen for me when it came [TS]

  out the five-time extremely [TS]

  the screen for me now including when the next revision of macros come out and [TS]

  they finally decide to make a 27 inch monitor out of that same screen that San [TS]

  Marcos iMac and you put them both together maybe second time's a charm [TS]

  will see ya I'll probably get one of those combos eventually but i still dont [TS]

  get to the good news about he's going somewhere with this so that's i [TS]

  described how ecran works on my Mac Pro like this actually ship some things into [TS]

  the memory controllers do you need the Rams marksman that he's got a chips than [TS]

  the memory of Charles more expensive because that I do extra stuff and [TS]

  specially designed to do it and then it passes the information back to CPU well [TS]

  in DDR for that the upcoming our current I think about now standard for RAM ECC [TS]

  is built directly into the chips so it's not like the Dems send the information [TS]

  to memory controller in every trial or look at the information was sent along [TS]

  with the parity information reconcile that moves in on american journal has no [TS]

  idea that he sees about that at all entirely on the DEM [TS]

  still requires extra hardware and you know that information but it's [TS]

  transparent to the memory controller so you can basically take this ECC DDR for [TS]

  but some of them you can take these ECC DDR DIMMs and shove them in any machine [TS]

  that supports like I guess the physical form factor and everything else involved [TS]

  but the memory controller doesn't have to be special which means it is [TS]

  presumably less expensive and less cumbersome and it's harder for Intel to [TS]

  segment their market and all that stuff there's a little bit of extra costs [TS]

  because they have the memory memory is going to cause a little bit more and it [TS]

  is offering to the border gotta find maybe more room to decide the stuff but [TS]

  as the Dr for becomes the standard across the entire industry it's that [TS]

  could be the back door for easy it's basically like you get it whether you [TS]

  want to or not it's built into the chips and you don't have to worry about memory [TS]

  controller support or anything like that and the only possible downside is that [TS]

  the on Dec that's on the damn sells only catch errors related to the chips on the [TS]

  memory you know the memory chips and sells it won't catch anything that [TS]

  happened like when the signals are on their way from the memory thing to the [TS]

  memory controller [TS]

  and are enormous source originally said the vast vast majority of older [TS]

  americans are related to the things in the chips but then corrected herself [TS]

  later to say you know what all there are really two things that happen in the [TS]

  chip because even if if you having a separate thing let you correct the [TS]

  things between the dam in the memory controller you start to go for the [TS]

  control of the CPU Obama has those are fairly reliable so just is basically the [TS]

  way they were all gonna get easy it seems and then finally there is a link [TS]

  to the PDF talking about various problems with you know modern RAM and [TS]

  the size that were fapping things and everything and it talks about the [TS]

  failures and the times between them and so on and so forth including comes to is [TS]

  the most effective way to deal with variable retention time tell you it is [TS]

  generally believed to be easy and this whole thing about new memory that the [TS]

  modern modern memory the side that's fab that the problems inherent in developing [TS]

  memory it smaller and smaller size is facing leads to the conclusion that [TS]

  already is going to have to BCC if we keep drinking because as you make as the [TS]

  process gets smaller and smaller on-ramp it's much easier for a bit to be [TS]

  determined by the other one just everything is so much more info you need [TS]

  easy just to make things work reliably period so it's gonna be built into our [TS]

  and eventually Frankie drinking no matter what potential conclusion from [TS]

  this paper so we will put all those things mister notes Ben Hayes Road in [TS]

  with us that I think it's come up the past out last time to see something that [TS]

  I'm not sure about linking the show not ninety-six percent chance of having a [TS]

  bit error in three days if you have four gigs of ram so these bidders are [TS]

  happening if you believe that that there is another paper the lincoln says dear [TS]

  america is in the wild wild a large-scale field study this is from [TS]

  2009 was not particularly news of things may have changed for the worse over the [TS]

  better depending is probably the worst BBC is not more than a percent of Dems [TS]

  are affected by areas each year so this is happening all of our computers and [TS]

  ICBC like me [TS]

  whether you know it or not most of the time doesn't make a difference probably [TS]

  not corrupting you did is probably not doing anything wrong you just gotta get [TS]

  unlucky once there enough and also it is worth pointing out that while there [TS]

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  be totally unimportant could never even be read it could be read and discarded [TS]

  it could be you know the high bid to something to get some ass doubt it could [TS]

  you know chances are very good that nothing bad will happen but if they're [TS]

  you know if you believe that the first at words like basically every three or [TS]

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  Jason wrote in and said I mean to partition my hard drive and hard drive [TS]

  got corrupted I had a backup to the backup is encrypted with a strong [TS]

  password which is only my keychain which is only in the files encrypted user [TS]

  account in the corrupted partition and of course in the encrypted backup server [TS]

  really nice backup which is a total break until quantum computers can crack [TS]

  the AES 256 encryption I see many friends doing backups using strong [TS]

  passwords and a password manager and checking every quote encrypt box they [TS]

  see by themselves these are all good but together I found out they can be [TS]

  dangerous I didn't hear read about that before perhaps with the morning I'd love [TS]

  to hear your comments [TS]

  yeah you have to be careful about that stuff it's really good point though [TS]

  because I definitely tickle the encrypt check boxes and [TS]

  and without one password on a device somewhere I am completely lost that [TS]

  being said I have one password on two different Macs and iPads and iPhones so [TS]

  it would it would take a pretty catastrophic issue for all of those to [TS]

  go away and by the way it's it's stored in Dropbox would have to leave Dropbox [TS]

  as well but it's certainly something to think about and that's why they say your [TS]

  backup isn't really a backup and try restoring from it what if you lost [TS]

  Dropbox like what if your Dropbox file got deleted or corrupted or to vote [TS]

  before you start thinking about whether you like Dropbox putting it on Dropbox [TS]

  at almost everything you can do to protect yourself from the scenario is [TS]

  describing weakens your encryption because now you're saying this super [TS]

  strong encryption need to be strong passwords if Dropbox encryption is [TS]

  crappy or their security is bad or whatever like you're you're basically [TS]

  you're combining lots of different kinds of encryption but not layering them you [TS]

  just sayin whichever one of these is the weakest if someone gets to my Dropbox XP [TS]

  on me because everything that they can get out once they get that they've got [TS]

  my passwords and they've got you know i mean there are your email for that [TS]

  matter like there's always whatever the weakest link is in the chain someone [TS]

  needs to get through that so you do I was going to just same thing one way to [TS]

  protect yourself from this is to make sure that sort of the keys to the [TS]

  kingdom are like one of your house burns down the keys to the kingdom can be in [TS]

  your house you have to have them someplace else does burn down you can [TS]

  still decrypt your backups that are outside or whatever and you know how [TS]

  would you describe your backup center off-site the key can't be in the [TS]

  encrypted backups like this but for Jason here you have to have them [TS]

  somebody's out there may be putting in the Dropbox place to do it said hey you [TS]

  protect yourself but you've also weakened your security because now [TS]

  you're relying on Dropbox act and it dropbox is a big target that's true but [TS]

  i mean one password has its own encryption so you would have to lose [TS]

  drop boxes encryption and then one passwords wouldn't you started your [TS]

  story in one Password vs like I use FileVault encryption I'm going to write [TS]

  down my like super secret you know they have nothing like please log in a safe [TS]

  place what if you just put that in a text file and dropouts you like a drop [TS]

  box is encrypted right which is true it is or if you put it in encrypted disk [TS]

  image on Dropbox but then you have to have the password is encrypted disk [TS]

  image where you put that one like you just chasing your tail it's not it's not [TS]

  impossible to do something for that things the things that occur to most [TS]

  people to do to protect this information usually leads to either not resolving [TS]

  the problem like the case of putting an encrypted disk image on Dropbox then you [TS]

  know that put the password to the encrypted disk image on a sticky note [TS]

  you're driving your house burns down you can get anything anyway or it weakens [TS]

  things because you literally made a text file in Dropbox and put your you know [TS]

  tertiary password on lots of things that are not something that I lost the thing [TS]

  in a text file in Dropbox needed hope dropbox is an act any thoughts Marco has [TS]

  really geeky friends but not really you know you guys covered pretty well like [TS]

  it you know I also use one Password I also stored on Dropbox the question is [TS]

  suppose you lose access to every computer that you currently have that [TS]

  works and every device you currently have that works [TS]

  suppose you suppose like a mat Honan happens to you we're all your devices [TS]

  get wiped it wants so you don't have access to your any existing installation [TS]

  of one pattern anything so the question is can you can you recover from that how [TS]

  do you get up from that again so in my case the question is like what I really [TS]

  need is a need access to my email account and Dropbox if I had access to [TS]

  both of those things i'm ok but you get home and that stuff is gone to [TS]

  that's so you got it figured out like you know about so here's here's the [TS]

  backstop is that one of the reasons I stay away from [TS]

  like I'm almost I have I bought one Password thing about one or more than [TS]

  one time and I've played with it but I've never taken the full diaper and [TS]

  here's why because I'm afraid of having it be in this type of situation where [TS]

  where your passwords stop becoming something you know in start becoming [TS]

  something you have and I need to have at least one super important password be [TS]

  something I know so then yeah I can get hit in the head really hard and then I [TS]

  want to cut my data but my ultimate backstop is there is at least one [TS]

  password in the chain and it's a big long complicated password and it's the [TS]

  only place that exists in my head and it's never used any place else and it [TS]

  never told anyone and it changes and you know and like fine delete all my stuff I [TS]

  can find my way back in and there's more than one of those like I have I don't [TS]

  have a lot of passwords memorized not saying this is what you do a member I [TS]

  have too many forgot password I use keychain one password could feel the [TS]

  same thing but i feel most of the people use one password because of the rain in [TS]

  this is the passwords because of how strongly our give up on on memorizing [TS]

  anything you can store passwords do you make of yourself in one Password you [TS]

  don't have to let it generates passwords for you so I would encourage people to [TS]

  someone to somewhere have a password that you know you and yes the people in [TS]

  there isn't one Password like that does the one password that you know to open [TS]

  new one password again you always want to make it so that you have a way in [TS]

  even if everything is gone but if you want password database is gone because [TS]

  they've they've owned all your stuff and all basically you have is your encrypted [TS]

  like Backblaze back up having your own password password knowing it in your [TS]

  head [TS]

  does not help you get your back plays password back if you don't know your [TS]

  back place passport back lace bathroom than one pass when he just seemed to me [TS]

  that one of your devices that you could look it up on that's a problem right [TS]

  there is always make sure that if everything is having its own and and [TS]

  like you don't have control over you don't have access to email your house [TS]

  burns down all your devices are broken or erased all you've got left are you [TS]

  basically your offsite backups that are all encrypted you need some way to [TS]

  decrypt them the passwords that are on the brink of the backups are not going [TS]

  to help you there has to be one [TS]

  your head and hopefully it's the one that lets you do a sequence of events [TS]

  that lets you decrypt whatever it is the year from whether it's back players are [TS]

  hard drive you have at your parents house or whatever [TS]

  yeah this is why I like like my back plz password is what I know in my head and I [TS]

  don't you i don't rely on password for that one [TS]

  so-and-so might my way you would be back please I lost everything locally all my [TS]

  devices that I could log into back later the past 10 get my one Password filed [TS]

  there and then get everything else from there but even that you know that you [TS]

  get to pick your own password back late says that the past burden but if you've [TS]

  ever typed into Backblaze website essentially a back brace has been hacked [TS]

  in some way like your back places like then you're just relying on very well my [TS]

  house is gonna burn down their homes and was like everything he's got his house [TS]

  might as well [TS]

  burned down like that was a malicious hacker doing bad things to all the stuff [TS]

  you taking over everything and so that that could happen to you so it is [TS]

  something worth thinking about [TS]

  but at the same time you get home and back places not also probably going to [TS]

  be act like those two things may happen but you just hoping like other than [TS]

  having the same exact time probably not so you you're playing the odds with [TS]

  something there but there's always freaking out about those things very [TS]

  most services are designed so that they never do take your best where they don't [TS]

  start anywhere you type it into a thing to prove that you are you to do your [TS]

  stories on the web but the bottom line is you are typing that password and then [TS]

  I go not only use javascript is never actually transmitted to our server [TS]

  happens all clients I yeah yeah yeah maybe it does maybe doesn't it you got [TS]

  hacked it doesn't anymore right thing to do is make it to the name anyone types [TS]

  of their password or restore they actually grab that information put it [TS]

  somewhere you have to think about these kind of failure situations like I don't [TS]

  trust iCloud keychain with anything I don't trust anything that's totally only [TS]

  living and iCloud because I clouds failure mode is is kind of unknown and [TS]

  poorly defined and probably not great [TS]

  most cloud services their failure mood is kind of development of an airplane [TS]

  which is an airplane totally fails mid-flight you have a really big problem [TS]

  or drop boxes to train it is a trained sales generally speaking what happen [TS]

  it just stops moving everyone still ok you know you just everything pauses [TS]

  basically and you could there's a lot of a lot more recovery from that right so [TS]

  relying on things like Dropbox and back plz like Dropbox move stuff in between [TS]

  computers and one of those computers or more can be running a backup program and [TS]

  those are just files that you have moved between your computers that live in a [TS]

  regular folder that is right there in the file system that is it isn't [TS]

  anything special or weird it's just a folder that happens to be sent by the [TS]

  background process between your other computers and then your backup program [TS]

  can read that back it up to it and you can be struck down to any computer right [TS]

  the fewer airplane like failure mode you have here the better and so something [TS]

  like if you have everything backed up to your apple a day or two a Google I D or [TS]

  any kind of big cloud service [TS]

  well what happens if a lockout your account what happens if they think you [TS]

  did something fraudulent or against their TOS or they can screw something up [TS]

  and you get a lot of your account like how how screwed are you at that you [TS]

  really have to think about that kind of failure mode and think about you know [TS]

  what what will happen in in Scenario X how safe is my tater really and how big [TS]

  how how big of a problem with it be if if cloud service X just kick me out one [TS]

  day or two totally failed if you want to have a backstop that doesn't involve [TS]

  memorizing things you know go back to good health israel's security get a [TS]

  safety deposit box at a bank put a bunch of passwords on a piece of paper like [TS]

  it's that's what multi-factor authentication is about it in terms of [TS]

  like using something you haven't something you know like just keep adding [TS]

  factors like and then you just the year increasing the odds that you're gonna be [TS]

  ok and the like [TS]

  here is a series of things that have to happen for me to be screwed it becomes [TS]

  increasingly implausible like okay my house burned down and I got hacked and [TS]

  big plays got had hacked and someone holds up the bank and openly stated [TS]

  about the box and less and less here in like a Wesley Snipes movie or something [TS]

  the world's greatest heist this is not going to happen to you probably but one [TS]

  of those things could definitely happen water damage takes out all your devices [TS]

  right or you do get hacked and everything that can be remotely done by [TS]

  dot Mac gets white because they use Apple services very thing you're right [TS]

  so this is a good good feedback on base and we should all think about this goes [TS]

  through scenarios in your head say if this happened what would I do and then [TS]

  dry run thats ok im gonna pretend I don't have access to my devices can I do [TS]

  that thing I said I could do it for you find out actually I don't have the path [TS]

  of Mrs anymore and where did I put that scrap of paper had on today give that to [TS]

  my parents when I last saw them is that it with our birth certificates in a [TS]

  safety deposit box I don't remember where that is if you have to have [TS]

  another piece of evidence tells you where you put the piece of paper that [TS]

  has the best words I do a dry run it's like a like a fire drill school going to [TS]

  walk right so one last bit of follow-up we had talked about actually this is [TS]

  follow up on follow out so we had talked last episode about alphabet and Google's [TS]

  not rebranding but reorganization and Jason Snell upgrade talked a bit about [TS]

  that which was very interesting because he had lived through some very similar [TS]

  stuff when he was at IDG and I'll butcher the details if I try to repeat [TS]

  what he said but suffice to say in his perspective it didn't seem like it was [TS]

  particularly malicious it wasn't about hiding things it was just about [TS]

  reorganize reorganizing things that should probably be reorganized so we'll [TS]

  put a link [TS]

  not only to that episode in the show no it's not a great podcast if you not only [TS]

  listening to its patients now my curly but will also put an overcast link with [TS]

  the relevant time stamp how convenient is that so you can check that out as [TS]

  well so that was our last bit of follow-up if I am not mistaken anything [TS]

  else gentleman Marco 10 a tad bit podcast episodes to play less from the [TS]

  web and to overcast then I have to go and over gas and then go to the players [TS]

  that I use and then edit playlists and then go ahead episode and then just too [TS]

  many things right from the web to playlist make a little pop-up menu my [TS]

  playlist my feature request the main reason why there's no overcast web [TS]

  playlist support [TS]

  is because the the code that that decides how to insert new episodes into [TS]

  a play listen how to sort them have manual sorting and all the different [TS]

  options and everything [TS]

  the code that decide that is so complex in Objective C the time I really don't [TS]

  want him kind of afraid to try to port it to PHP to work on the website [TS]

  a radio button top and to top or bottom line asking for the moon I just wanna [TS]

  have to go through all those taps like you're right that's not the right thing [TS]

  to do it should go on the top or bottom for you put it on the farm you make the [TS]

  present act like you said to put it on the bottom of the players so I did you [TS]

  send to put on the top so I did nothing like people ever since the cast shut [TS]

  down one of one of its cast features that a lot of people liked is up next [TS]

  playlist where you can you know you can hit sign some papers add this to a [TS]

  playlist whatever whatever it was and and everyone writes me requesting an up [TS]

  next feature and its musical playlist do that like you don't I didn't think I [TS]

  needed it up next feature because I figured I have reorder of a playlist you [TS]

  can just drag things around as you want them to be playing in playlist liked it [TS]

  added to the playlist begin with that's the journal yes so i i so anyway my my [TS]

  my theory is at some point during the two point X cycle I'm gonna adding up [TS]

  next feature and just make it add it to the playlist like there's not going to [TS]

  be a separate feature it'll just add it to the current playlist after the [TS]

  current item and if you're not playing current playlist it'll create one called [TS]

  up next and fixed it and so it's tibet just because like you know I can I can [TS]

  already solved this in another way that I totally support and let me just make [TS]

  this easier for people and then they use cases like people are always [TS]

  recommending interesting episodes a podcast that I don't want to subscribe [TS]

  to let me see them in tweets and I love it when they put overcast length links [TS]

  does not have the added over katzman then there's still the extra step of [TS]

  like oh we just added the episodes over Gaza is there but I don't play I am [TS]

  using one of my playlist and it's not only you know so like we're so close so [TS]

  close to just I see a link somewhere right the cool overcast link and then [TS]

  then on the drive home that episode will be there and it will be part of my [TS]

  playlist my current thing you must do is done the next thing you know that I saw [TS]

  will play so so when you so for me like I i don't i don't have this problem [TS]

  because I basically have one main playlist where the filter is include [TS]

  everything except expires in like certain show they saved four different [TS]

  context in life are listening with my wife or whatever else so my name podcast [TS]

  is my name playlist is everything except acts so when I added 2 episode or new [TS]

  podcast it shows up in my name playlist so I don't have this problem then I'm [TS]

  doing a whitelist instead of blacklisted so it's it's only these things and I [TS]

  have a really big backlogs are probably always wanted to be a head to the top or [TS]

  like you set up next like basically after whatever doesn't listen to get [TS]

  down to the bottom is too much of a backlog of it gets added to topic may be [TS]

  listening somewhere in the middle I was thinking about my mother solution to [TS]

  this is I will just stop using play with and just tried to everything from the [TS]

  main screen don't even know if it's possible I guess it's not really the way [TS]

  I want to do you the pilot to play with i do prioritize things I do like how the [TS]

  show is coming to the party sections or whatever it's just pretty much it's all [TS]

  in one place that he is almost all the time I have a few like his own custom [TS]

  ones for like road trips and kids a things or whatever but most of the time [TS]

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  so we're starting to get into iPhone rumor time here and here and there has [TS]

  been an interesting rumor that that just came out in the last day or so and this [TS]

  was broken early this in turn my world by way of a friend of the show and prior [TS]

  guest host Christina Warren and she had tweeted and retweeted Cult of Mac saying [TS]

  that someone has found iPhone success in the color pink which I thought was very [TS]

  interesting and as the spouse of someone who once owned a pink razor and I think [TS]

  I speak for market when I say that as well this could be very enticing to [TS]

  Aaron and perhaps stiff as well I don't know any thoughts on this other than [TS]

  that I'm happy to see them you know try to do something that appeals that well [TS]

  on the surface anyway appeals more directly to women of this is where you [TS]

  played a clip of me saying that Apple is to make it far more colors mission [TS]

  accomplished through yeah people like colors people like the pic cause its [TS]

  annoying from an inventory standpoint but it's something that people like they [TS]

  should totally do it and I really hope this is true because it will help them [TS]

  sell phones and make people happy and with anticipation like their word [TS]

  anodizing aluminum that's one thing you can do you make dollars they got space [TS]

  great you know they got a gold one gun [TS]

  sure thank you to all the colors go crazy comes up I mean so I just bought [TS]

  Tiffany here so she can actually tell you what she thinks herself because [TS]

  she's a person so here [TS]

  Hey [TS]

  hi there what are you guys doing well so you think about this pink iPhone it's [TS]

  pink I just posted a picture that looks like the pink razor know I did have the [TS]

  pink RAZR I had the pink razor because the pink razor was one of the first [TS]

  pieces of technology may be the second piece of technology that I ever got my [TS]

  hands on that I thought was kinda made for a lady i got really excited about it [TS]

  as all the other phones before that just kinda like silver pieces of [TS]

  electronically they just weren't as appealing and then you get this pink [TS]

  little razor phone it's adorable and skinny and Libby and I just had to have [TS]

  it so I had the pic I the light pink one not the hideous neon pink one but I'm [TS]

  not a pink person so I won't get the pink iPhone because the white one is [TS]

  there a pink phone just for girls to know pinker is not just for girls my son [TS]

  has a pink stroller so I think it's four boys who like pink if they like saying [TS]

  it's funny it's funny the razor though because hand on heart I'm not trying to [TS]

  be funny I might not have ever loved any of my iPhones as much as I loved my [TS]

  silver razor that I had cheese on all my 2007 something like that I loved my [TS]

  razor more than almost anything and I don't really know why I just think I was [TS]

  a mess rise like you said about how thin it was it was sleek looking at it was [TS]

  awesome and and that pink color that late the what made me think of the razor [TS]

  when I saw the leaked photos of the iPhone fake whatever they are just that [TS]

  same pink that's like that metallic look to it you know it the color and that was [TS]

  kinda knew then so it was super appealing that it was new [TS]

  not that it was pink yeah we should point out that various people interim [TS]

  are very insistent the line in the sharon says pink phones question mark so [TS]

  do not bank on these things being real but making a bunch of take pictures of [TS]

  it and showing it to people and seeing the reaction is all part of the process [TS]

  these images traveled around Twitter and social media pretty quickly because [TS]

  people are excited at the idea of a top of the white iPhone that comes in a car [TS]

  that's not like black [TS]

  or gray or white or black you know something a pink high-end phone I think [TS]

  would sell and you know any other sort of colors that look good and so even if [TS]

  this is not real I hope that it will be real Sunday yeah I agree I want to tell [TS]

  when put that out there some other stuff that so we could have yourself in [TS]

  Photoshop it just you know in a leaked everywhere everybody gotta send it [TS]

  through anonymous sources not having come from you and just have it yeah I [TS]

  find myself a tipster where can I find alright like Marco on right if so yeah I [TS]

  mean these are probably figure it though the pictures of actually that word [TS]

  leader it ever does whatever insist you can just mess with little hugh slider [TS]

  and Photoshop make phones pretty much a caller yeah I mean it's it looked a lot [TS]

  like they they took the picture of the gold one and just did they replace color [TS]

  thing and thing but they look good like these these markets have never liked [TS]

  that looks like if Apple made that product looks totally in keeping with [TS]

  their recent athletic of their designs color is kind of just the right shade of [TS]

  pink or it's not in your face really really bright pink but it's also not so [TS]

  muted you can tell its bank its I think this is a great product I wish they [TS]

  would make it I i mean you know they they already make so many metal colored [TS]

  product with all the iPhones and iPods iPod Touch they made the iPhone 5 see [TS]

  what I wasn't medal but like they obviously are capable of mass producing [TS]

  aluminum bodies for electronics in this price range with pretty much any color [TS]

  they feel like so I don't know why I do wish they would have more of them just [TS]

  to give more variety but yeah everything like you've done the various times in [TS]

  past shows the multiplication to figure out how many varieties of a particular [TS]

  iOS devices are now allowed each one of those to be done in colors like just the [TS]

  fanout starts to get a little bit crazy [TS]

  and so I can see why they would not want to add even more colors to the set of [TS]

  course they already have but people like us so I think you should do it and [TS]

  speaking of metal that the next item we have an ear this one more solid than a [TS]

  pink phone is yet another part sleek someone's got their hands on what is [TS]

  purported to be the actual back case of the iPhone successor of the end up [TS]

  calling it this is a video with strength tests they've got an iPhone 6 case the [TS]

  YouTube video but in the shots and i got I suppose that I thought success case [TS]

  and they've got a fairly primitive screw based machine that applies pressure to [TS]

  admit her so much pressure takes the bend and to spoil the whole video for [TS]

  you the this is just the case is not the actual phones this is just the back case [TS]

  with no inside that it's obviously is weaker than the entire phone which has a [TS]

  friend you know laminated to an everything into some more structurally [TS]

  solid but just the case the iPhone 6 bangs in a you know in a way that it [TS]

  doesn't spring back from around 30 pounds of force and the new one bands [TS]

  around eighty pounds of force so it's more than a two X increasing stiffness [TS]

  from a case that is still made of aluminum and still looks about the same [TS]

  I didn't mention anything about it being heavier thicker or whatever but it [TS]

  didn't do was take a device to it that's opposing measures the content of the [TS]

  metal like they scraped away the end he added i servicing data middle underneath [TS]

  and what they found is that the new unused smart thinking element makes its [TS]

  like 7000 series aluminum instead of a 6000 series aluminum bottom line is if [TS]

  this video is to be believed and they really did get one of those cases from [TS]

  the new iPhone success it's way way stronger and that's a good thing and [TS]

  kind of like how Apple learned you know what the antennagate think it's like [TS]

  that and take it is not a big deal but in the next one of these phones are [TS]

  actually gonna change things too for the same thing bending is not a big deal but [TS]

  in the next month we're gonna make it stronger because why not why not make a [TS]

  strong dislike get the car analogies every year every time a new model of [TS]

  some car comes out here is the new generation of Honda Civic 15% more [TS]

  torsional rigidity like they just the body shows always gets different cars [TS]

  does he go the other way it's like [TS]

  the new version of the Toyota Tundra and the body has 20% less rigidity nope it's [TS]

  always your is lighter stiffer erection they should be going and they can go in [TS]

  the direction with their laptops to like unibody with a big upgrade I don't think [TS]

  we have any been to get stuff involving laptops but they keep going they will [TS]

  pretty soon be there but you take a MacBook one and given a nice curve if [TS]

  you tried hard enough I thought this video is very interesting and the first [TS]

  time I'd seen it was the iCarly that we spoke about a little earlier but it is [TS]

  very fascinating and I'm very curious to see if this is the real deal now my six [TS]

  that I have right now as far as I can tell it has not been to any way shape or [TS]

  form however we talk about this months ago I do have the little crescent moon [TS]

  on the front facing camera so if you look at the front facing camera and by [TS]

  the way if you have a iPhone 6 you might want to ignore me for second because you [TS]

  cannot unsee this but anyway [TS]

  front-facing camera and there's a little bit of like trim that is under the outer [TS]

  glass but it kinda shimmies overly physical crescent moon left behind a [TS]

  retarded describe but trust me it happens to a lot of people in what I [TS]

  intend to do is get this thing get up get it looked at right around the time a [TS]

  new one comes out so I can either you know get it repaired before the warranty [TS]

  expires or perhaps we get it repaired before I sell it if i if I can convince [TS]

  Aaron that it's OK for me to get a success will you have to your cameras [TS]

  include active right there there's no other choice and i cant fix it except [TS]

  when I go fix it [TS]

  do you have a white front load I don't have a white front come on I'm looking [TS]

  at i'm looking at my phone with black front and if there was a question how I [TS]

  don't even see me know it's it's real it's so what happens is something in [TS]

  their shifts off of its access yeah I know I know about like if that happened [TS]

  is the thing that ships also black it's it's grayish cindy is saying the [TS]

  Crescent is a shift of the foam padding between the camera and the glass and [TS]

  that's what it looks like yeah I heard of this problem I was just saying like [TS]

  this happened to me how would I know it [TS]

  was also black I feel like I wouldn't be able to see it but of a different color [TS]

  that I guess and i know i mean it's it does it stand out quite clearly like [TS]

  once you look at it it's like my first iPhone 6 I think actually got a SWAT [TS]

  because it had a really bad one and my current when I'm looking now it's it's [TS]

  right there it's clearly visible it's definitely on the right side that's [TS]

  definitely chipping away but it's a much smaller version of the shift and I had [TS]

  originally yes so I just found a link that I put in the chat now put on a show [TS]

  notes and if you scroll down just a little bit they have a close-up image of [TS]

  an iPhone 6 and that is almost exactly what mine looks like mine doesn't have [TS]

  this problem likely would have to spend it Rand's is asking the chat was it [TS]

  delivered this way or did happen over time I'm pretty darn sure it happened [TS]

  over time although like the FedEx arrow I didn't know it was there until [TS]

  somebody said something about it and I god that's why I still worry about [TS]

  occasionally putting on six down on a flat surface just one of these days that [TS]

  I had to realize I Little Rock to it because it's it's taken on a little bit [TS]

  of a banned from being in my pocket I just tried that a Yes to as you ever [TS]

  talking to I just took it out of the case and no its rocking because the [TS]

  camera so yes I try to hang in that boat off the very edge of the desk like it [TS]

  was going to be here and I moved it around a little bit different part of [TS]

  the day we should not be doing this we should be doing what you're supposed to [TS]

  do with LCD monitors diana's don't look for a dead pixels don't look for them [TS]

  don't do it don't run those patterns don't do the things that help to find [TS]

  them like it you find the Jubilee fine but if you don't don't look for it ever [TS]

  having a pixel oh yes I did my 2010 sample Cinema Display that beautiful [TS]

  thing I can tell you where they are good but my fingers right now [TS]

  11 like the lower left we are you scream texture you know I'm not alone in the [TS]

  lower left and one in the upper [TS]

  towards the lower right towards the lower right one of the worst is it was [TS]

  like stuck on the red and as you get it was good practice for me having to learn [TS]

  with the image retention from destiny hud and now the Cartoon Network logo [TS]

  which the new bane of my existence was a black black and white opaque logo on [TS]

  Cartoon Network nomadic my kids shifted into different positions with the screen [TS]

  format changing to try to not burn that embryos at St Louis fading but oh my god [TS]

  great CN thanks a lot for you force them to do like the various stretch modes and [TS]

  everything to do that but not terrible signs I mean they watch their watch full [TS]

  house which is standard def and like that just looks terrible and I want you [TS]

  to do it I just have to move around or just stop watching Cartoon Network is [TS]

  the show's across anyone seriously don't put an opaque completely lacking a play [TS]

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  couple more phone things are going to be forced touching each other this fall [TS]

  that's one last we all just so much going to be there I guess you know [TS]

  there's been a lot of a lot of talk about like you know what can we do for [TS]

  stocks and there's been a lot of a lot of intelligent people also saying you [TS]

  know this this could be weird or problem or an intuitive because you know timing [TS]

  function out for stocks has a number of issues one of the biggest is that [TS]

  anything you try to force touch [TS]

  this year is only going to work on the newest iPhone so it's gonna be awhile [TS]

  before I like the the majority or the entirety of like you know all devices [TS]

  that can run iOS whatever actually have hardware support for starch that's [TS]

  that's problem number one is also you know they're this problems with [TS]

  potential accessibility and RSI issues I you know that there really hasn't talked [TS]

  about this on and connected and on upgrade like I believe both Mike and [TS]

  Steven I i dont find a forced touch gesture comfortable on the watch I you [TS]

  know the feeling of applying more pressure than necessary against a an [TS]

  unmoving piece of glass if you do it a few times in a day fine but but if it [TS]

  becomes a common gesture I think that might be uncomfortable certainly it has [TS]

  issues for people who have disabilities or arthritis are lots of other issues so [TS]

  it is it is not universally accessible by any means it is not necessarily an [TS]

  incredibly good idea to be doing a lot but you know we don't and we still don't [TS]

  really know the full RSI costs and risks of doing lots of computing on these [TS]

  little touch screens that they're just two new would only have an experienced [TS]

  that yet but you know this could be it could be an issue to say it could be an [TS]

  issue and the biggest thing for me is you know we see kinda had a good for [TS]

  stocks on the Mac with the four stocks traffic on the watch for structures [TS]

  kinda like a menu button and I think the watches so constrained in UI design and [TS]

  in space and physical design it so constrained that I think that kind of [TS]

  makes sense it's not you know there might be other options that it's really [TS]

  not very discoverable but I watched you have to make a lot of tradeoffs on the [TS]

  Mac the Air Force touch in a way that you know as it came out like I think it [TS]

  should have just been a shortcut for right click but they didn't do that [TS]

  instead of the Third Kind of click that does something in you know wherever [TS]

  accurate and it varies in most apps don't do anything or they do something [TS]

  standard like the dictionary whenever something [TS]

  incidental special but there's really no way for you to know what it's going to [TS]

  do with that just trying it and it because most of the time it doesn't do [TS]

  anything special I have some people are going to be forced clicking on Macs R in [TS]

  random places as a general habit even if that was a good interface design which [TS]

  it isn't so on the iPhone I think we're gonna see something kind of between [TS]

  those two I fear we're going to do something between us do what you gonna [TS]

  be a tenth of its gonna be kinda this this third action that you can just you [TS]

  can just try for studying in various places you might get like a menu or [TS]

  something I don't know that doesn't seem like a great idea to me what what I hope [TS]

  they do and obviously I'm sure it's too late for anything like they listen to me [TS]

  anyway but what I what I hope it is is a shortcut to long press because if that's [TS]

  what it is and that way first of all then if you're a software developer you [TS]

  don't have to worry about the installed base of who has and who doesn't [TS]

  as a user it even easier so if you just adding gesture recognizer DUI on it for [TS]

  a long press recognizer and it happens to fire on a forced touch that I think [TS]

  would solve a lot of problems because you wouldn't be adding a whole other [TS]

  thing to the interface that never existed before you would avoid the [TS]

  install base issue and would leave the accessibility option long pressing you [TS]

  know it's still not everyone can do it but it's a lot easier long press on the [TS]

  fortress and I have seen so many people when they tried to use an apple watch [TS]

  and you tell them out for so many try to explain to them how to force touch it is [TS]

  so hard to get people to different people and forced duction long press and [TS]

  I'll try long pressing nothing happened in the meeting is broken and so if those [TS]

  things and it being the same thing and end up for stocks is just a long press [TS]

  that you can do faster than that i think is a good way to integrate into you I [TS]

  don't worry about the software support if the OS takes it if it becomes like [TS]

  multitasking gesture or tips there is saying like bring out my control center [TS]

  like a menu or being like you like it if the OS owns an entirely than you know to [TS]

  worry about that if they try to make it long press than the OS can count on it [TS]

  because that has to go through the application for stress on the watch I'm [TS]

  kinda used to it like when I change clock face I think the key thing is the [TS]

  the vibration feedback that accompanies it makes it feel like one big thing that [TS]

  wasn't there I think it would be too weird but by the way our tipster says [TS]

  that for such as coming in [TS]

  someone wrote in a little while ago they were you given all this time to the [TS]

  tipster you don't even know if it's real or not that's why we say these things [TS]

  that the tipster says for such as coming and the new iPhone come out for such [TS]

  that lets us know and that's all you know how much just count the tipster but [TS]

  if it does come that's one more you know one more notch in the hague got this [TS]

  right even though is pretty easy to guess because I would have bet on being [TS]

  there and the reason by the way but unfortunately being there because they [TS]

  have room for the sensors the watch has it the max habit they're going to do it [TS]

  like barbara saying all right fine you put the hard way there how do you deal [TS]

  with the software they can work that out like maybe they make a bad choice in the [TS]

  beginning and they revised it and I have a standard something you don't like you [TS]

  don't have to commit to that now you just need to put the hardware and then [TS]

  you could figure out how you want to use the software wise how it is used in the [TS]

  OS how it passed through the absence of it passed through the absurd all and all [TS]

  that stuff that can be worked out by the way tipster says there's gonna be a new [TS]

  color for the phone thing even though the paintings are fake so it's nothing [TS]

  compared to the common new phones come out of there is no new color or they [TS]

  don't have forced touch we can just start saying this guy's yanking your [TS]

  chain everything here has asked a question mark I think that there will be [TS]

  forced touch I think there is a way to make forced touch make the phone a [TS]

  better thing to use I'm not entirely sure that their first crack at doing [TS]

  that is going to work because I have experience using on the Mac on the watch [TS]

  it works but on the watch like they have to do it because like Marco said there's [TS]

  not yet you have so few avenues to try to put like rich input on their forget [TS]

  about like if I think your texture to go back [TS]

  the home screen where I love doing that I bet you guys do that the five fingers [TS]

  question totally I i try to do that i phone sex sometimes and it doesn't work [TS]

  in a nice meal I it's good it's silly it shouldn't work on the iPhone but it's [TS]

  just so convenient that I wanted to work on the iPhone sex and almost big enough [TS]

  that could do a three-finger squish you know anyway for such an iPad starts to [TS]

  make a lot more sense especially starting stylist support and all those [TS]

  that like that's why I think this is just going to race across all of Apple's [TS]

  computing devices and I think Apple find a way to make it useful [TS]

  you know I have this fancy new Retina MacBook Pro with the force touch [TS]

  trackpad and I don't find myself forced touching really ever the only time I [TS]

  ever find myself source touching as when I want to look something up that's on [TS]

  screen because if you highlight and most apps if you highlight a word they're not [TS]

  even higher if you just have the cursor over word and then forced touch it will [TS]

  open up the dictionary pop over and show you the definition of what you're [TS]

  looking at and then as market was talking about [TS]

  else does force touched you heard me because I didn't even remember and so [TS]

  it's like a zoo more variable speed playback of QuickTime them well that's a [TS]

  little different but i'm talking bout to go for such click in so in Finder for [TS]

  such click [TS]

  quickly which is actually pretty convenient storage tank you quickly and [TS]

  so that that's actually fairly convenient although I didn't even [TS]

  realize it now if forced touch on the Mac is not something I think let me try [TS]

  that however I completely agree with you john that I find it very natural and [TS]

  watch and I'm curious to see what it what it works like on the phone I [TS]

  suspect it will not replace long press even though I think that would be a [TS]

  smart way to handle it I think it's going to be some others sort of gesture [TS]

  will just be so happy to not too long press the place the cursor that it won't [TS]

  matter [TS]

  I know I will be so happy because I despise long press I despise having to [TS]

  do something for a set amount of time and it's always just a spoiled by [TS]

  Twitterrific like this white cursor controls or whatever like it's gonna be [TS]

  so awesome I was nine when I do not have long pressed to do to put the cursor [TS]

  somewhere I hope it's awesome I've heard some people protesting I S nine which I [TS]

  haven't tried it all yet that sometimes you're typing you can fool the keyboard [TS]

  into thinking you're trying to do to finger drag which is the cursor movement [TS]

  control and like I wasn't doing it to finger drag him as being kind of sloppy [TS]

  typing with my thumb that will kind of an idea that the bigger problems I get [TS]

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  how long ago seven years ago the files fairy came to my house put a big thing [TS]

  in my basement everything up took this action tech verizon wifi router thing [TS]

  plugged it in [TS]

  set up whatever sacrificial Mac let him get his paws on left my house and I [TS]

  probably unplugged everything and he plugged in to put me that cable into the [TS]

  NTMA baseman threaded through my house put it into an Apple Airport Extreme by [TS]

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  when I plugged in you save yourself a phone call and I plugged in my Airport [TS]

  Extreme the flat one of the older ones and that has been running my home [TS]

  network for seven years zero problems with that he never crashed never [TS]

  spontaneously rebooted and never done anything wrong [TS]

  super solid fanless workhorse of a router so there was seven years ago [TS]

  couple months ago I was fishing around under my desk I think I was looking at [TS]

  the PlayStation for something and i saw this on my power strips down there were [TS]

  looking at Creek MI generated by senior power strips I bought the new power [TS]

  strips replace the old power ships and is this something anyone has ever done [TS]

  yeah like is it was there were some really old alike when I was in college [TS]

  and like this kid is probably doesn't even work as a as a surge suppressor [TS]

  anymore it's so old and a great looking and want to get some [TS]

  my songs know what you're right like the little things number now after awhile [TS]

  but but has anyone Casey have you ever looked at it and say you know I need new [TS]

  power strips these factors are no good no I don't see you probably have newer [TS]

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  other year and lost power for twenty or thirty minutes and when the power came [TS]

  back on I was surprised to see that my wife i didnt reconnect as I went over to [TS]

  my router and the light was off on it and you know what the deal with that was [TS]

  some kind of light on it so I'm plug did I reset it a hard reset it all things [TS]

  you could do and the real bad sinus when you plug into power is making this [TS]

  terrible noise like a rhythmic buzz and therefore green lights and Ethernet [TS]

  ports for blinking and the internet says basically you think it's Friday and I [TS]

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  Airport Express that allowed finally gave up the ghost pretty sure he got [TS]

  killed by a power surge because it was the only only electronic devices my [TS]

  entire house that is not hooked up to a search of president is the only one that [TS]

  died and that's super said and so I took to Twitter looking to find out the [TS]

  reason I had to replace them as long as one who is super reliable I was afraid [TS]

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  didn't want that in the third reason is all the other ones the people recommend [TS]

  like the wire cutter and everything never tell me whether I could have my [TS]

  printer up to advise USB obviously like everything works why am I even bother [TS]

  injury places but now he's forced to a place like I are gonna go through this [TS]

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  to find like anyone know like a really good wifi router that hopefully has [TS]

  better signal strength in my Airport Extreme which is terrible i physical [TS]

  strength against one of the really old ones it's terrible signal I know what a [TS]

  terrible thing I just kept using it was reliable something that has better [TS]

  signal strength that supports the newer standards and that I can just unplug [TS]

  this thing and play everything back into including the USB for my crappy Canon [TS]

  printer my Canon printer yes supports Wifi yes supports but when I first got [TS]

  the printer I heard all those things except try to I thought the nineties I [TS]

  think their drivers are really flaky I hated it he tried everything set for the [TS]

  most reliable option [TS]

  networking for the wifi was like it like oh I can't get a signal from point A to [TS]

  point B it's a network printer you have to install the drivers to print to it as [TS]

  a network printer and the drivers really flaking terrible and had no faith [TS]

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  reason that I tried their wifi the flaker that the drivers are flaky it's a [TS]

  nightmare I went back to direct anchor USB or whatever anyway I just don't want [TS]

  to change things that I wanted to buy new printers want to work the way it [TS]

  worked though I was just looking for a recommendation like hey anyone who's got [TS]

  the wire cutter recommendations or tried some of these were cargo ones have you [TS]

  found one that you can do this I know they're like little dongle you can plug [TS]

  into the lot of the wifi ready they give you like a USB print server the plug the [TS]

  USB thing into and i got a suggestion some people said the number one wire [TS]

  cutter pic does have a way of you to plug into USB thing with like a weird [TS]

  kernel extension and Mike to the router and some custom map things really flaky [TS]

  yes I don't want to sign up for that and so eventually people just started saying [TS]

  hey including Marco I've got one of those old crappy flat Airport Extreme [TS]

  that's terrible wifi signal that I'm not using anymore do you want it and the [TS]

  answer I realized was you know what yes I do one of those I don't have any [TS]

  devices supported 211 AC I don't mean anything with AC in fact I had to [TS]

  downgrade my network room [TS]

  and to BG support because my son is using 3ds that only supports VGA doesn't [TS]

  support and so I can go and only and saw a bunch of people were coming out and [TS]

  saying I've got old Airport Express I'm not using do you want them including [TS]

  Marco who was on vacation at the time and I said I'll just when you get back [TS]

  home look at it and tell me instead of looking and telling me he just merely [TS]

  shifted without asking though I knew you would say no and I want to get rid of it [TS]

  so I guess if the bottom line is I had not have multiple old Airport Extreme [TS]

  coming to my house [TS]

  the story of the day this happened I had a podcast tonight not this one but a [TS]

  different podcast and it was like T minus like 2.5 hours and I had to record [TS]

  a podcast and I didn't have an internet connection I have with my cell [TS]

  connection I don't know how to record a podcast over that my signal strength [TS]

  isn't great anyway so I had to get back online so member that seven years ago [TS]

  when the guy came to my house and I have probably just going to put everything [TS]

  what I did at that point was took the Actiontec Verizon router that he had [TS]

  plugged in and always associate accessories and put it in a ziploc bag [TS]

  and put it in my basement so seven years later I went back down to the basement [TS]

  told that to the plug back took out a brand new looking Verizon router that [TS]

  he'd like to be exposed to air not been exposed to air for seven years and [TS]

  realize that I can't get [TS]

  and IP addressing can get a new DHCP lease because I can't release it from [TS]

  the dead unit because the dead unit is dead I tried cloning mac Address is [TS]

  convinced that the Verizon router as a sailor's have the same MAC address nope [TS]

  just would not give me that I just have to wait it out and i got i phone with [TS]

  her a long time until the point where I like you know what I'm at the point now [TS]

  I'm going to call Verizon customers abort that's so as I was going to their [TS]

  country I think the least finally ran out and I got an IP address and so I'm [TS]

  using their router now pretty crappy get good speed it gets better wi-fi saying [TS]

  no then my Airport Extreme which is depressing but not very good [TS]

  all this time he could have had better not that much but it's better in my [TS]

  son's room but it's worse in some rooms in the downstairs understand how that [TS]

  mix of event happens anyway the Verizon one what can I do on it it was a kind of [TS]

  a pain to get it to distribute the IP addresses that I wanna it for some [TS]

  reason I have my custom DNS that I have a lot of my machines it was cranking out [TS]

  that like a manual IP address and a custom DNS and just all name lookups [TS]

  would have to let it use the DNS on the router otherwise I can look up anyway I [TS]

  don't want to deal with it seemed like it was stupid black and white thing out [TS]

  of my house and back into the black bag to better thanks to everyone who offered [TS]

  to send me their old copy hardware and there are many of them and thanks to the [TS]

  people are actually sending it to me including Marco even though he showed a [TS]

  bunch of other crap the box one thing yeah we'll see what's in their goal came [TS]

  with them they know it so it so I came home I I learned so I I did have the [TS]

  kind John wanted and I don't use it anymore so I thought it was in my closet [TS]

  I get home I see that the art that apparently the one the one I was [TS]

  thinking I think I already given away to somebody else and so the one I was [TS]

  thinking so you know what I had in my closet was the tall one that the current [TS]

  model actually the tall AAC version that john didn't want I knew he didn't want [TS]

  to cause it has a fan in it even though you can't hear the fan and so I knew if [TS]

  I asked him if this was ok he would say no so I guess didn't ask him I put it in [TS]

  a box and I threw in a [TS]

  whatever the first cheap Nexus tablet was at the nexus 7 with whatever the [TS]

  very first chief Nexus tablet was I've had one of those in my closet for I [TS]

  don't know three years sitting around doing nothing it's totally useless so I [TS]

  i [TS]

  I packed the the AirPort Extreme with a few pieces of packing paper and a Nexus [TS]

  tablet and ship that off to John like last time you send me a stack of candles [TS]

  with basically nothing between them just like any impact on top of each other [TS]

  like a four inch high solids that have Kindle nothing between it and no other [TS]

  panic in the box is opened his bike so heavy open up is just a solid stack of [TS]

  Kindles are very dense when there's not much I have my daughter still using one [TS]

  of those using she's like a scratch on the screen came out of the box like that [TS]

  like the Dow Jones Industrial Average the one with the toughest stupid touch [TS]

  sensors are trying to figure out where your finger is the worst one has it is [TS]

  really the worst one of the first generation Kindle Touch but that's what [TS]

  she's using [TS]

  don't like to read they'd rather have paper books and you know and understand [TS]

  I could do everything else in the iPad there is much new to me is that a TV but [TS]

  when it comes to reading books they like the paper on a book they don't like [TS]

  reading them on their iPads will give you a little warmer sound and yeah I [TS]

  think that the Kindles are weird though Mike it is kind of a weird expression [TS]

  with the flight you touch screen if you're used to the responsibility of an [TS]

  iPad screen the Kindle is like this feels weird and you can't even touch the [TS]

  screen updates low it just feels awkward I i think is like nothing is [TS]

  intimidating but it it feels like it's broken it doesn't you know in a way that [TS]

  a paper book doesn't feel like smoking them anyway though they'll probably come [TS]

  around so that's what I'm speaking to you now through this seven-year-old [TS]

  Verizon writers meeting is a black bag I'm glad to have my phone because I had [TS]

  to google for but this fall password is or how to reset actor figured out [TS]

  reset button on the back anyway but I went through the whole sequence of [TS]

  events I've done before of like factory reset your router or determine what the [TS]

  factory password is figure out what the IP addresses is going to be 1001 or 191 [TS]

  192 168 blah blah I get in the interface was weird like him like maybe doesn't [TS]

  work encompasses crazy they are you type the username them you type in the [TS]

  password field you take one character but just three dots like Lotus Notes [TS]

  yeah just like a client-side JavaScript masking call this sort of thing [TS]

  pointless security they're trying to do to be and first I was like deleting to [TS]

  key down handle it to stop you from doing that but then I realized that I [TS]

  had to let it but I thought it was a bug like about this listing was created [TS]

  before chrome even existed right so maybe it doesn't handle modern browser [TS]

  so I'll just put the password directly into the input field and submit but then [TS]

  I realized I just have to add to its clients are you going to that you I and [TS]

  I'm trying to get to release the IP address and claiming that God resin [TS]

  needs a fun hour and a half or whatever basis that burned down the clock and [TS]

  killed it so it just gave me ya know I mean I've made a phone call many times [TS]

  you gonna change my setup for change where did you get a call Verizon out [TS]

  because I never have never gotten it to actually successfully released the old [TS]

  IP and give me a new I have never gotten it to work how long did you wait as you [TS]

  like two hours ish I've never wait that long I have a three year old wants to [TS]

  watch Magic School Bus on Netflix there's there's no in a way that it may [TS]

  take that long to get through the 17th here to support you had to get to the [TS]

  guy who knows what you say we just released [TS]

  I've had great luck like usual of phone calls are less than 10 minutes long and [TS]

  varied very good luck with that but i know i mean Actiontec routers [TS]

  actually pretty decent rhetoric because it's it's kind of like the way that back [TS]

  when phone companies made the phones and had to support and they own the phones [TS]

  and you you know you paid for it similar to how cable boxes for today from people [TS]

  where you don't own the box you pay the cable company for service and if [TS]

  anything was wrong with the box they have to deal with it like they have to [TS]

  send him to your house or do something else like so you know so they make the [TS]

  boxes really well [TS]

  222 very conservative strong standards so that they tend not to break and [TS]

  that's how phones used to be I don't like the big bakelite yeah great big [TS]

  solid phones right but these aren't [TS]

  subcontract like Actiontec this is like a third-party company they're they're [TS]

  right but it seems pretty solid and the performance is really good [TS]

  obviously like it doesn't even support and and didn't exist back then so its [TS]

  job and speedy only right and the UI is looking like a little kid looks like it [TS]

  looks like a Linux style UI at best and it doesn't there's no USB port on it for [TS]

  my printer like it's just there's a reason I didn't want to use it I just [TS]

  didn't want to be involved with that at all I get you know there's a retain my [TS]

  ip addresses by Max go to sleep for back to iMac auto waiting like now it doesn't [TS]

  like us why didn't want to be bothered you can put a new bridge mode and turn [TS]

  off the wifi and use both of them but that just seemed like one more than [TS]

  willing to go wrong so I just want Ethernet right from the wall and do the [TS]

  things I'll be happy when whoever shipment of their gently used airport [TS]

  extreme stuff arrived at my house and the one with the fam Marco I'll give it [TS]

  a try I'll see if I can hear that everyone tells me someone to like a [TS]

  decibel test they're like I'm three inches away with my but some sound meter [TS]

  app for the iPhone 40 decibels and Richard Reid says you know the sound [TS]

  level in a quiet house so we'll see if I can hear the fan I'll probably be ok [TS]

  with it but it's right on the desk right play ps4 I'm like I will be able to [TS]

  touch it with my hand and that's kind of where it has to be in terms of all the [TS]

  wire routing because all over the place so if I can hear it will be swapping him [TS]

  on the pancake lens so it since you since you already keep it out on your [TS]

  desk at proper height why do not consider the Google on hub first of all [TS]

  the things that I would just like to state for the record that I am using the [TS]

  same Actiontec router that I received in 2008 as my router and it is running [TS]

  wired into one of the flat airport extremes and that is how then running my [TS]

  network for like two years now for that I was easy action [TS]

  without anything else but you got it in bridge mode in the wifi turned off [TS]

  exactly right and it works just fine [TS]

  is this the the MI 424 W R I have no idea it says it right on the front along [TS]

  with a million blinking lights yeah that's true I can only log into that [TS]

  ridiculous admin panel with the ridiculous password crap that you were [TS]

  also talking about earlier we see that says on here this thing I looks like it [TS]

  hasn't been updated in eight years I know it has but it is ridiculous and in [TS]

  speaking of like saying like when the phone companies to do it they don't want [TS]

  to be the ones to swap and ever and ever [TS]

  when I was a media one customer which became Comcast which became expendable [TS]

  polovina media one but I first came to Massachusetts backup from from georgia [TS]

  was a cable modem and the things that look like me out of cases made a cast [TS]

  iron I know it was like no text on cast iron pans what kinda like dottie like [TS]

  the little dots like that's the texture they had done what I seems like the [TS]

  aluminum case but like way too tiny to have this is in line at like a heat sink [TS]

  it was just built like a tank but it was a piece of crap like I had so many [TS]

  problems that I think people would come out and check all the wires in our house [TS]

  and check the signal strength and there is great understand maybe need to put [TS]

  more filters here like all analog BS crap to try to get the cables things to [TS]

  be right and went through that over the course of like a year and a half and [TS]

  then eventually I just got a new Motorola Surfboard thing from like Best [TS]

  Buy or something and installed that God every all the problems are gone dropped [TS]

  connections are gone don't have to worry about signal strength anymore even look [TS]

  like he was built like a tank it was obviously crappy an old so I don't trust [TS]

  the mir bist companies to take care of my connection is flaky or not says it [TS]

  can be there to scare like that I keep paying whatever like rental fee or [TS]

  whatever the number I don't think I'm reading this and understand why even [TS]

  still have it but I'm glad because that was literally my way back up I don't [TS]

  have any other riders in the house I was thinking of driving to an Apple store in [TS]

  just buying the stupid fan tower thing or whatever if I couldn't get the [TS]

  Verizon one to work but the rising came right out of the box like a champ [TS]

  everything about it worked I knew [TS]

  about the IP really something that I wonder if there is a way to release it [TS]

  the other one is dead I don't understand when I clone the MAC address I couldn't [TS]

  say hey just give me the IP like I am that same MAC address like obviously [TS]

  don't know about the details of his networking works I thought I really [TS]

  thought they were committed in there was no I mean you just called them and they [TS]

  can they send like a remote command to your ont to break the lease [TS]

  those those another possible option that people like if you restarted ont and [TS]

  then someone else was that I restarted my phone and it didn't work and I wasn't [TS]

  willing to do that [TS]

  not tried that just called there's like three different levels of resetting its [TS]

  like-for-like pulling the battery out there I tried all the head and none of [TS]

  that actually worked but calling Verizon fixed in 10 minutes I i've done the [TS]

  Verizon call before ordering other crises to try to get that done but I [TS]

  guess that at the foundry with long enough that by the time I was about to [TS]

  be connected to a person [TS]

  the green light when I get their money so I have a mi 42 Ford SWR hardware [TS]

  revision D as in dog what I was going to say earlier that I actually forgot was I [TS]

  didn't know the secret to having a good files installation which is to have them [TS]

  run Ethernet out of Euro anti-semite is actually the reason I'm sticking with [TS]

  the Actiontec in no small part is because I have coax coming out of the [TS]

  ont into the Actiontec that's the Internet is riding on the coax and so I [TS]

  really regret when they did the installation not having the money [TS]

  tonight like I think you did John and I believe market you've said in the past [TS]

  he did as well but either way I'm running this ancient mi 44 WR revision D [TS]

  and it has apparently been active for seven hundred eleven hours which is [TS]

  about a month you can if you physically run a cable to it that's nothing that [TS]

  you can call them and just say can you switch my ont Ethernet and they will say [TS]

  okay and I will do it is the only see the one that's in the house around are [TS]

  outside the house I was going backwards dnt is the thing that's probably your [TS]

  garage or basement the ads in the garage [TS]

  green green lights on it looks like a year as it may be small but it was like [TS]

  a white rectangle box mounted do all it could be can be in the [TS]

  yes I ever goes in and either Ethernet over coax or both goes out of a box on [TS]

  the outside of the house like that I thought is where the actual fiber came [TS]

  in at your water meter [TS]

  no no no seriously there is a file box on the outside in a file box on the [TS]

  inside hand on heart I'm hundred percent sure you don't like it was on the [TS]

  outside of on it could just be about covering the whole day putting your [TS]

  house down and opened it up for some reason or another and I could swear [TS]

  that's when my 20 years but again I was going backwards I'm probably wrong but [TS]

  but anyways but yes there's a box on the outside box on the inside and I can [TS]

  never keep entry when installing his here like I was pretty much gonna let [TS]

  them do what they want to be the newest is a leftover just disconnect everything [TS]

  but the one thing you had to say was don't just leave the cocks in the [TS]

  basement do it from the bottom Mike you won't be able to get on demand unlike [TS]

  you don't want on demand I do not in fact I have a TiVo not a cable box I [TS]

  couldn't get that anyway so just because I just could not believe that any more [TS]

  details on your files and I have on demand this is the 2008 whatever you [TS]

  know to the installer files means TV that's true now the one thing I will say [TS]

  but having Actiontec coax is that I really wanted me to not drop down in the [TS]

  family room in the Actiontec router is upstairs in the office and what I did [TS]

  was on Amazon and got a mocha bridge and what that allows you to do is it's not [TS]

  you know full-speed I've done speed test them to remember will have fast they [TS]

  were but you can get the smoker bridge that takes coax in and has Ethernet on [TS]

  the other side in so I have a hub hooked up to the smoker bridge hooked up to the [TS]

  coax and you can get on the network by but because the Actiontec is taking coax [TS]

  now yes I could have put another mocha bridge on the other side but it's pretty [TS]

  neat to be able to do that neither net drop arbitrarily anywhere that i've [TS]

  cable drop in since this house was built in the late nineties I've cable drops [TS]

  freakin everywhere in the trick I feel like I should save this thing is I think [TS]

  this is the airport extremes i think is the most reliable piece of network [TS]

  hardware I [TS]

  iran is literally never done anything wrong [TS]

  is just SAT there for seven years doing its thing you can you can you switch to [TS]

  last that long maybe but like something that has many roles as a wireless router [TS]

  like that's the whole integrated package plus you know the print server and [TS]

  everything else and I would mess with it like I was messing with the AirPort [TS]

  Utility I would open up and close to remember opening closing ports try to [TS]

  play Quake three arena like that lol the thing was to try to play multiplayer [TS]

  crack the arena like trying to open ports up for BitTorrent before it like [TS]

  declines for good and got through your firewall and I don't like you know it [TS]

  has done its job well and it never made any noise and didn't have a noxious [TS]

  lights and it was really small and flat and yeah they'll put in a little frame [TS]

  somewhere can be like artists kinda boring white rounded square thing [TS]