00:00:00 ◼ ► I do I feel the tears of the hotel room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► and have thought of that make sure they refill those boxes were live where we are in person in my hotel room with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► whole bunch of equipment and wires everywhere. Recording this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► On the proper three track recorder with three microphones and one is clip to a table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/14">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► Minus clipped to a suitcase stand and John just slipped to a pole and. And we are making this work. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/20">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► It's odd looking at you guys we do this every year but it's odd looking at you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/32">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► or doing this you have a little note thing normally we recorded that just for today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► Now this is just some holding a field notes and. I have with the comedy behind this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/39">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► But I can't read them because my handwriting is crap in general but my handwriting is an intelligible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/46">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► Like without having a surface to write upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► or to tap them out in your little Iowa's device I don't know isolating him to feel notes notebook was shaped like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/56">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► So I know I thought to paint you a word picture so the field notes is concave convex I was going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/63">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► and anyway it's bad I went away all that yeah you're right that's true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► So it's bends because it always resides in my back left pocket it is crinkly is all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/72">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► Anything And so yeah so I didn't take copious notes I don't know how do you how do you want to do you want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/77">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► this. I mean the morning was are you actually a really Are you now learning cause I have notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/83">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► Are we learning that I took the best notes of the three of us you know I wasn't taking notes on Monday cation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/88">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► I've got your vacation to California yeah you don't go yet I don't I didn't take notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► but we if I just saw like the agenda. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/98">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► I give you just on the agenda that you know what is go through it chronologically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► and assume that we will actually finish with the agenda. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/103">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► and how far we're through the agenda if we spend forty five minutes on the first item will know that we have to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► along. Although Are we just going through the keynote or we also going through the State of Union. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/111">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► but no one else will barely make it through have to Keno in the Keno was about seven hours long so there's that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/119">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► We've done these recordings before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/127">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► and for people who haven't left them I think the thing to remember is that we spent the day. Standing in lines. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/128">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► Attending the thinking oh by the way I am actually had to be a recent case you're wondering. Tell you think you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/137">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► We haven't had time to look up everything on all the websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/145">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► or digest it all oh whatever so the main thing we're bringing to this. As people who are actually here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/149">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► Bringing to the people who aren't here is that we are in the room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► And we could see the reactions and we are sort of giving first impressions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/157">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► So and evidently we will get things wrong like just before we start recording I was asking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/161">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► I wish I could see a particular slide because I have some memory of something being on that flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/165">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► but I'm not entirely sure so we make mistakes please forgive us what we're trying to give you the on the scene. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/169">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► Sort of flavor of W W C. Not so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► A comprehensive no factual error as complete coverage of everything that was announced today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► Because clearly that's what we do is a podcast that has no factual errors ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► and so this isn't exactly like it's a weird thing is that you are here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/184">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► You actually probably know less about the announcements than if you're not here because you're too busy being there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/188">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► the things you know like Jason still talked about that and upgrade last week about how like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► when you are covering the event you don't have time the way everyone else does it home to go through all the websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/199">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► and documentation right after the release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► and everything so we actually have had a right we've had less time to go over this is a lot of people have so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/206">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► But we have the things that they don't have is that we get to and this is a thing people know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► when they released a video service. They edit them. They cut out parts that cut out audience noise that cut out. Flubs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/217">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► Sometimes they're even edited for content like when the guy typed the wrong thing into the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► Whatever that was like What was the. Well that was serious you talk about turn the music or no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/228">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► I can help thing that he was trying to say. It's a road trip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► Oh you're talk about Lance is going to Utah a road trip or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Well it already filled up the wrong song like that one with a serious thing. Yeah. But anyway. Being here live. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/240">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► That's what you get and sometimes a significant a sometimes it's not but that's what we've got to offer you. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/247">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► Well let's start how about we do just a general overall feeling about the entire Keno Let's leave aside the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/254">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► the Union for now. So it's the keynote in general. How did everyone feel all start off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/260">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► The first half to two thirds I thought was excellent. There's a lot of enthusiasm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► Some of the things that I think the room found more enthusiastic. I was a little. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/270">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► I was slightly surprised by the room got really amped up about an announcement with regard to Swift will talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/275">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► later. But in general I thought was very good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/280">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► It wasn't quite the fast pace holy crap that was last year in my personal opinion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/283">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► Last year I felt like my hair was getting blown back everything there was so much so fast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► This year wasn't that the last third however basically once. Once Apple music started. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/293">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► Things took a turn and well we'll talk about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► Well but I don't know Marco What did you think about the whole thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► I thought it was great I mean you know if we just. If we consider the first. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/305">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► Three quarters or whatever I like the first part before Apple music. If if if Tim Cook would have ended. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/310">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► And instead of saying one more thing said thanks will this will be a great week you know will see what we what you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► can do with this thanks a lot. And it was the end of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► I think it would have been a very different overall reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and until that point really the I think the momentum was very good so now you know they they. Stuff they ran through. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/327">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► You know I O S nine zero S ten L is El Capitan as I say that I tell you that we're going to learn that. I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/334">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► Al Capp is that an acceptable level I'm sure Stephen Hackett's can be furious about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► but I will probably call it Al Capp. I've heard California people call it Al Capp So I think that's OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/346">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► But I don't you never know California people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► I think they can say it but we can't I don't know right like isn't Cali unacceptable. If you're not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/355">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► And I never for SCO yet we're here to go. We're here in Frisco Cali. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► Got so many people are so angry right now the first go Don't touch anything. So. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/364">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► So I think you know starting if you start at the beginning well you know that going through it first of all I would say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/368">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► I took notice too that the reactions that people had to both Tim Cook and the two especially Craig Federighi. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/374">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► These were like roaring cheers like more than I feared soon after you've jobs at these events like people are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/381">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► pleased with these exact. It was just very positive very positive overall for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/389">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► I think you know some moving into what they announced I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/394">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► So first of all I thought the opening film was kind of funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► I heard a lot of a lot of people on Twitter were like oh this is lame. I thought it was cute. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/401">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► and I think it played well in the room like of all their opening videos they do they're supposed to be funny their head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/407">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► or miss you know doesn't really matter but I thought this one was mostly hit. And I. I didn't hear a lot of groaning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/412">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► From the room. And that's happened. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► I mean the thing a birth thing you can say about the opening video is it didn't seem particularly relevant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/422">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► Which you can kind of imagine has to be that way because if you're going to get much of celebrities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► and someone to produce this video for you and everything. You can't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► Like what if they had filmed a whole bunch of stuff about the new Apple T.V. Like you know or tease about an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/432">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► So that the opening joke can't be about anything that announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► but then you're like why is that even here as it is wasting time trying to entertain me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/442">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► The only thing I'm really doing the opening video on is making a joke about Objective C. and Not mentioning Swift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/446">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► Not that it was going to lose a Bill Hader Bill heater. Yeah happened is that I've got. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► Yeah and he sees awesome and so I thought as a cheesy and campy opening video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► It was about as delightful a cheesy in camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► and campy opening video as one could really hope for so I I give that two thumbs up. I thought it was fine. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/466">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► And so you know I I think you know you can. You can look at the room and you can say you know you're right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/472">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► You know the playing to that room. It worked. It was light hearted it was you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► They know they're not going to get like you know Comedy Awards or the things they produce or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► but it was light hearted and it was. It was nice it was pleasant it was parts of it were very funny I thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/484">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► And it was fun. You know it's open and like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► They usually open up a jokey video that like there was like that Siri video. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/491">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► I think that's not new like to open up with a jokey video so that's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► And this reference third party apps you had the little chrome Monument Valley in there you got angry birds of course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/498">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► It was a lot and yeah the lot. So that's that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► If you're playing to a room full of developers referencing a bunch of third party apps is a good bet. Exactly so. So. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/507">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► First your laptop in front of his you can stand Mike. And I right. So they went over zero S ten first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/517">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► And so now I wish we had somebody in the room who was an O. S. Ten X. or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/526">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► I guess we did oh a standstill gets top billing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/532">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► Isn't really true because the last bots the good one but anyway other just just let me have this one ten top billing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/536">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► Thank you note had was so long because they had so much stuff in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► but was so long that now I'm thinking about what did they announce for us that well. It got its own name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/548">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► And it's not snow Yosemite. Our snow Samedi like like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► I mean you think all who cares what its name but that is the single that Paul has used in the past. To indicate an O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/561">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► S. Release. That is merely the previous or last release. Kind of cleaned up a little bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/566">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► And those are all modifiers of labrat and Lion and that sends a clear signal about the intention of the O.-S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/575">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► This one does Al Kabataan were just kind of a modified version yes I mean because the thing that's in Yosemite. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/581">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► But it's still trying to stand on its own. The thing that struck me about it is still I'm still looking at her B.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/587">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► Perspective I'm like man a screenshot signal who's acting the same this year has it last year because last year was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/594">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► big overhaul of everything looks in this year. I don't. Was there anything that looks different than fonts different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/600">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► but I want a big I mean it's only big to people who care about fun so I can tell you that vanishingly small number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/607">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► people. Even can even notice in like a test is held better or you know. Charcoal or S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/614">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► Sans are Chicago maybe they could sell Chicago but it is it is a new font but other than that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/621">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► I don't think there's a even any like a new sort of controls or a fax or widgets or anything like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► So this is going to look very similar in their views [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► and everything they concentrated on more a few underpinning text on a bunch of new features for apps it did not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/635">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► and the other thing that struck me since this was there for us announcements like OK here going to show is this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► It's going to have a whole bunch of stuff in it that is kind of like well it's like Yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/648">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Prove that whatever they did not emphasize the idea that we're taking this year to sort of make things perform better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/655">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► and make more stable they did not hammer that at all. They merely just didn't say anything they just said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► This is you know I stand out Happy ten. And here's what it has in it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► And these things that has it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► and moving on they did not emphasize were like they did they go ahead of us no leper. To say like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/673">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► We're really going to try to buckle down this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/681">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► and concentrate on the coral as I mean I think they are doing that but they didn't say that in the messaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/685">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► and that I think would be a theme throughout because a lot of the amounts been from this keynote were like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/690">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► but it was unspoken like the past I said hey they can get lots of applause lines by saying that they didn't go for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/695">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► They didn't go for like that type of line they just sort of went with the positives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► and didn't put it in the context of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► We know that I was a mere Samedi we're we're big releases and they're a bunch of bugs that you wish you would fix. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/708">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► I disagree. I think they did I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► So the way the way if it ever introduced it he said they were like you know like these handful of headline features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/717">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► there was. Spotlighting hands mince some things the built in apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/722">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► and metal is part of performance is not a big a semicolon here I put it in legal terms. They admitted no wrongdoing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/728">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► Yet you know if they did a settlement and they said but of course Apple events are ongoing right farewell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► But you know first of all I think that's very heavily implied by like the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► By the clear slowdown and like headlining marketable features of the of these two asses. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/743">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► But also you know I think even with Snow Leopard they didn't say man leopard was a piece of crap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/749">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► Were fix what they said we're working on like you know making things better under the hood they said like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/754">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► or they had this of the regrouping like they had to say why are we making a thing with no new features. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/758">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► It's like a regrouping a rebuilding year like that that is what we're doing with this endeavor like they didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/765">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► they didn't feel the need to excuse anything about our capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► and they didn't feel the need to explain why it didn't have as many feet new features to demo it just MIT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/773">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► or why the future for less dramatic no point did they put it in the context of past releases are characterizing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/778">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► release a small or less significant. In any way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/783">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► And I think that's fine it's a perfectly valid way to go I just thought they would have gone for it to get to get sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/788">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► of the credit for what it is they're doing and instead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► It seems like it's not like a power of like I don't think they want to embarrass themselves now that you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/795">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► your previous O.S.B. The crap but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► But to but to put this new release in context and say this release is a smaller released in our previous one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/802">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► and that is a conscious choice. And it's good for consumers because of X. Y. and Z. That inside out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/809">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► You know it's true what do you think of the name because I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/814">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► I don't take it I don't think I really like the California themed names at all because they thought they don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/818">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► anything to me like I can get behind Tiger and Leopard and. And even snow leopard and granted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/824">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► There aren't snow leopards running around Virginia but I mean everyone can associate can understand and appreciate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/828">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► Kind of esoteric places in California they just carry no weight to me like John a stomach is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/837">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► but you know I hear you I like the that naming thing that I think there are so many options and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► I like this man admittedly because it was the name of the tower case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► I believe it was the name of the entire tower case designed to power my Q three and G. Four game and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/849">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► This is the name of that thing. But it. They sound cool. With the exception of mavericks two out of three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/854">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► So far have been names that people know throughout the whole country. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/862">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► People know what you somebody as I think people know what this is even if they did know about the case code names. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► And that's kind of what a name has to be it's just a filler marketing name it's better than like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/869">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► It's better than a number. Better than the name of a wine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/874">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► It's less highfalutin than whatever I don't even know the wine name for this one as someone could look it up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/880">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► room or sides. So I don't mind it at the All itself. The things they change are all like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/884">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► Yeah that was kind of silly that I was limited that way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► And all that doesn't he call feature but I don't care but I don't use that app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/892">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► So you know the things that didn't talk about like if you have discovered the problems and solve them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► That will be worth the hassle operating alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► but they didn't talk about that at all because that would they would have to put that in context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► and sort of admit wrongdoing there. Right right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► You know what else do they talk about frost had kind of blanked in terms of my notes on what happened there was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/911">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► there was the window manager and stuff the new like to mission control and stuff like that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/917">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► but it's nice that window management I think is interesting to me from the perspective from my perspective. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/924">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► How I manage windows. And you know Windows Windows itself Microsoft Windows has a done this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/930">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► But the drag winner to the side how it felt to have screen or whatever in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► and you cross Linux Windows matters a majority this for ages as well. Arco yoga. You're dying over there. All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/941">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► You can't just get away with it now because it's on the same room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► But the whole idea of like a tiling window manager is the opposite of how I manage windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/951">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► I manage windows with overlapping windows the way a mac window management has been done since the dawn of the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/957">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► And even when I even use the same vocabulary I'm like oh tie I tie all my windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/965">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► but what tile means is what they were showing where the windows don't overlap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► and you divide the screen into Forth sir thirds or whatever vertically or horizontally in the windows don't overlap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/973">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► and when I say tiles probably the wrong word. I mean like that they overlap. And are you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/979">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► So I think for people who want to people who are stuck in fullscreen mode this may help get shake them out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/987">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► and say hey you've got this big giant screen don't make your text editor window fill your entire twenty four inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/992">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► screen because you're not going to write lines that are seven hundred characters long. Maybe I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/996">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► Split your screen vertically and have two things you know I just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► It'll help people along who are addicted to full screen apps the one giant monitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► and maybe on small monitors that will give them a chance is a nice symmetry with i OS nine features that will talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► But from my perspective this is window management that is not even up to the complexity of third party mac apps that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► have been around for ages like Devean Moon Moon is it called the bunch of other ones that are like that I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► have interest in these things so these features of happy ten don't interest me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► but I think it's good that they're there to sort of like training wheels for people who aren't very good at window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► To say here are some more options and they're built into the Oh I see you know have to install scary third party app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► and maybe. Maybe they will help you feel comfortable with Windows in a way that you don't currently feel called to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► That's fair. The IT WAS A During the O S ten portion that they announced that coronation is moving the medal.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► Well they announced that medal was coming to us ten and this is a lot of announcements here like yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► We all figure that from last year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► Like is that it is an ounce medal and it's I was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► and it's like why is that I was only the only reason you could think of as because they had limited resources in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► and I was more important and it will come to the neck eventually. And it did. And I put this often thought of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► And it's good you know. Thumbs up. Like and scared Craig Venter you threw up the horns. Course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1073">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Briefly I'm pretty sure my are going to see with the horns are these are the horns much better reference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► Mess with the ball you get the horns OK. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► You know you can either one of you get that do you know I know that's a reference with his I don't know from where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► should chat room is silently shame you can't be savvy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► This is different now because I can see that it's getting to the absolute disgust on John's face Typically I'm behind a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► monitored so. And we don't do video when we record so I don't get to see how unbelievably upset in frustrated Giants. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► But this time I did. I think you throw up the horns again and I think if you look at I thought he had as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► and that you know they didn't do it just occurred me they didn't do a control center right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► or did I totally missed that control center. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► They were talk about doing the you know the same thing where you swipe up from the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► and I ask what they are going to swipe from the left are noted a notification Senate I think the other side writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► Right there was a pretty solid rumor I thought up and I think it made me think marker was wrong about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► Well or maybe we just don't know it yet I still be there the type of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► and maybe it gets kind of like it was shown that all I think so too. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► I'm going to glass not their Honestly I like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► when I heard these rumors I was not looking forward to that I'm going to save something for next year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► All right so before I move on to Iowa. Let's talk about our first Bonser. It is our friends at cards against humanity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► Now. Cardigans humanity rather than actually giving us a sponsorship to read. They have asked John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► To review a toaster. So John what is the toaster of the week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► So this week's boaster is the Hamilton Beach toast station model two to seven to two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► That's you pull this up because this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► This marks a turning point I think in our toes to really do this abomination agood octo parrot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► It's not all like it is kind of an octo parrot shouldn't be. Casey does not get that reference know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► This thing I will describe it for you in looks like a toaster oven and seeing it and in person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► It's like my a bridal toaster oven. Was cut in half so it was half the depth. Sticks out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► From the wall of my kitchen half as far right so that's the first shop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► And the second shop is vertically where the door that opens up is half the height of the toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► and what are they doing with the rest of the vertical head of those are there the slot in the top where you put pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► of bread product in and push down on the side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► This is a slot toaster and a toaster oven and one we'll put a link in the show that you can look at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► It's kind of like one of the magicians boxes were expected like mirrors and there it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► when you push down the toast Where does the telescope Well there are no mirrors it's not magic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► When you put toast in the top of the thing in the slot and push them down. They sit vertically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► In the middle of the toaster oven so you can't use the slot those departing on the regular oven portion at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► time. Well that's not that unreasonable. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► Also here's the thing like a referred to toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► or many many compromises right off are thought about the inner as it has an on off switch which is nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► So you can turn the darkness knob to whatever you want and use the on off switch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► But also of course as the toaster plunger part where you don't use the on off switch then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► and you just push down the little plunger. If you're going to flop toaster thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► Suppose it benefits us a lot of us or is that it toast faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► And this is a little bit faster it's like three minutes for two slices which is a little bit faster than the gravel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► But it's not that much faster because it's got it's got to sort of course heating elements in the bottom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► And then it's got one. Heating element. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► On the side of the slot and one heating elbow on the other side of the slot that does speed things up a little bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► But what do you trade that for. Well. You put things in a slot toaster on the top. And they come out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► Not very evenly browned at all which kind of makes sense because just one heating element either side it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► real flat toaster they have all the Resist of wires going all over and gives one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► Even heat over the whole piece of bread. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► These things come out super spotty like big dark spots big spots that are underdone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► And the first time I tried to use it I put English muffins on the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► and the slot is very wide I'm assuming to be able to support bagels but it doesn't grip things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► Very closely so I putting this muffins but you're not very wide in their press that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► Often said the sort of like bent over because there is too much room in the slot and it curled back on itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► when I popped it up and had like crunched over and didn't pop back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► and I had to fish it out with a knife this is the very first time I'm using this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► So the slot toaster is crap like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► It does not toast as well as a real flophouse it does it's a little bit faster than Telstra but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► when you get out of it is worthless I would never toast anything in that it's worth then all of my toaster oven is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► It is not very fast and then the toaster oven portion is super small you only put two but slices of bread in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► Your height is compromised that little door that you open a super chintzy feeling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► And one of the things that it makes this terrible long beeping signals that you wish would stop like a deep good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► to be appalled at how just keep feeding and keep to be adding. This is the new champion for the worst toaster that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► If ever tested. It is not a good toaster oven it is not a good slot those there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► And people kept sending this to me were talking about how you should check this that this lot both rental car is bad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► both of those jobs. Do not buy this product I do not understand how it has a three and a half star rating on Amazon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► That's amazing. So what you're saying is that this is not as good as your other post. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► It's not it's just not good it like the picture they have a second picture on Amazon of you swipe it shows like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► beautifully brown bread coming out that's not happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► No bread that looks like ever comes out of the stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► or so you're saying that is what toasters may not be sufficient for you this is not a thought those I think White [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► I would do better this is again it's auto should have lots of the ever see them a little wires a glow orange inside a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► whole bunch of those wires Chris or them they brown and even Lee This just has to toaster oven elements. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► Sitting on either side of the slots. And it also turns on the to bottom ones. It's. It's a mess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► This is like someone thought it would be a good idea. But it is totally not how much of the cost of being in look well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► Thirty two dollars thirty dollars so you kind of get what you pay for but please don't buy this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► My was reading today I think it has recommended the mine came in red which is kind of cool looking as a match your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► toaster. Thumbs down. So Fun fact. Hamilton Beach is headquarters are in Richmond Virginia. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► You can go there and try googling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► and we've done another Hamilton Beach Post about a member of the models that so right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► Well thanks a lot to cards against humanity for sponsoring our show once again. All right Joe I.O.'s nine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► Well we are we done with I was ten. I think we're talking about far as any of us can remember from the you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► Probably but as I go to sessions and learn new things I'm sure new things. Right OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► But if you know that you know that in spend much time on the way wasn't that much now. OK. So I'm sorry Mark carry on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► All right so big money features of I.R.S. Nine. Were a lot of the A.P.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► and then user facing stuff there's this new proactive assistant part of this is on a west tennis well in the new Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► where the new spotlight window. To make this is a lot of a lot of similar kinds of stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► So big disappointment for me the forced search page on springboard is now back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1493">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► You know Member way used to be worse and worse but it was a page on the left. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► Now it's still now once again it's a page on the left. But besides that it looks pretty good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► I'm I'm curious to see I mean they seem to be integrating a whole lot of like web service type stuff in here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► You know web data results like it really is a continuation of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► Kind of encroaching on Google on Google's territory and not. You know not in some ways and not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► Not quite to the degree cruel to these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► but you could tell that that's kind of the direction they're trying to go in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► I don't know I mean to me like I have found. Things like the Safari autocomplete for Web sites. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► That doesn't use Google AT ALL things like like this like the current spotlight and I was eight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► That tries to integrate web an app store results and everything has some problems sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► but for the most part this stuff works pretty well for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► So this looks like a pretty good continuation of that process. And I'm really excited about the app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1554">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Indexing kind of thing where you can. Like now apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► Either through their websites or through the app itself on the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► They couldn't publish searchable data for for spotlight and for Syria that's pretty cool. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► Yeah that's pretty fascinating what was interesting to me about the whole Iowa Stein section was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► We got to see how will they be not the mechanisms but but the features that Apple is putting together to try to combat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► What is a Google now where you know Google. Since Google in many cases has all of your data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► Next and when you're going when you need to have another when you have another appointment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► Server side Google can look at that and say oh well Casey is supposed to go to dinner with Aaron in twenty minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► but trafficked says if he doesn't leave now he's going to miss it and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► And it was interesting seeing how Apple's trying to create some of that Google now functionality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► But without crawling all your data server side. Now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► What was very hand waving and don't worry your pretty little faces was well how are they really accomplishing that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► On the device and the implication was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► And many ways the statement was well it's all happening on the device so it's on its on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► and they made a lot of indirect and direct comments about privacy and about oh yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► It's under your control everything is you know the users own all this data we don't want to know we actually they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► literally occasionally said we don't want to know. Often they said we don't know or can't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► And so it was very interesting to me to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► Apple's reaction to that kind of the present Google that people either love or hate depending on what your protect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► Were pinion is yeah I don't know if that strategy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► I can't tell if that strategy is like this is our corporate differentiator this is what we believe is people that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► or that it's like that's what they have they don't have the server crisis about thinking about the on device stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► Right. So Google checks or e-mail figures out the have a flight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► And can do all that stuff because it sees your e-mail everywhere right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► or Apple's like all this all happens on device and. That sounds fine to like. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► But what if I don't check that mail account online i Pad does I mean I've had doesn't know I have a flight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► And if it's on device the answer is yeah. How could the i Pad know that you have flight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► If you're not checking that e-mail account from right maybe doesn't matter maybe people don't have fifty e-mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► accounts and check all their e-mail accounts and every device or whatever but basically your the Smarts are isolated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► and confined to the data that on that device but your life may encompass more data than is on any single device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► And so how can it get a picture of my whole life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► If all the stuff is necessarily local I feel like if Apple is going to make more intelligent features it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► have to eventually move away from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► and I don't think that's such a big deal like they don't read our i Messages that Imus's are all two way encrypted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► But there should be a way. Like you need some global awareness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► That is not confined to a device to really smart things so this is a good start for Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► You can do lots of smart things just on the device. But if you tried to explain to a person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► Why like well why doesn't as hard as a bit like the watch is not really an independent advice or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► but why doesn't my i Pad know that I have light. You know if I use Google everything knows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► when I'm on my computer at work it pops up a thing in my face as I don't forget about your flight. But on my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► My apple stuff only my phone knows why is that because you're at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► and you're not checking your your home e-mailing your work then you're just checking your exchange like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► explain to them the technical intricacies they want understand when you try to is when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► Well it's for privacy reasons I have all of them have your date and the like. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► I just want my computers tell me my flight is like this is the thing that frustrates Marco so much that people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► care as much about privacy certainly as Marco doesn't perhaps not even as much as Apple does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► I think their biggest best selling point is we won't sell your stuff for third parties won't give your stuff a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► party like if you decide that you trust Apple for whatever reason you're you only have to trust us you don't trust us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► and everybody we will ever do business for which is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► That's really not true because Apple give you information to have the hell they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► but their current term thinking today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► And their current strategy is they're telling you hey you know that's that's their value proposition give your data to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► We won't look at it we don't give the anybody else that I think is a little bit easier to sell for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► but I think history has shown that people like Alright fine whatever have all my data I just want to know my flight is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► no matter where I am. So I think Apple is going to not this year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► But some future generation come up against this barrier said we've done everything we can dole. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► How do we get sort of information about you in your life spans all of our devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► While still keeping your data private and I'm not entirely sure they know it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► and you know I think time will tell I mean you know Apple is really hitting this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► Hitting home on this I are driving us home because I think you're right that it this is some of what they believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► you know that they are they truly believe this is very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► but also this is obviously a competitive differentiator and. I don't think the market. Cares as much as Apple does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► That might not be a bad thing I mean the market doesn't care about attention to details much as Apple does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► Or design as much as Apple does in general either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► That doesn't mean they shouldn't do those things and that doesn't appeal to a lot of people anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► I think I think that that it influences people and sort of a subconscious level. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► Whereas these privacy things I'm not sure they do I'm not sure people are even aware of like every talk about this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► message I talk about it on on. When I was on rocket like the privacy advantages of i Message. Are really beyond people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► Knowing all they know is like. If I looked. I looked at this conversation on my mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► And that look at it on my phone and some stuff wasn't in both places. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► and if you try to explain to me I don't care they just want to be everywhere good like Google works the way people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► Google stuff works the way people think modern computers should work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► And when anybody ever gets used to my stuff everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► Anything that is not everywhere they think it was a bug like oh. Well my google stuff is everywhere like that better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► It's funny to quick aside I was on the plane on the way to San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► and I hadn't had my laptop connected to the Internet and I don't know if you hours or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► and on the plane where I'm on this god awful terrible connection which is to be expected because I'm in a to thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► thousand feet in the sky I noticed or I was trying to carry on a conversation with Aaron B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► I message but it was completely unintelligible because what ended up happening is I would type something send it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► And then messages from hours ago would come in below what I had just typed in so I could not follow the conversation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► Because I was reliving the conversation from hours before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► and it was at the in the heat of the moment was extremely frustrating and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► Thankfully I understand enough about the mechanisms behind it to have realized well you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► but I can see out to a regular user that would be unbelievably infuriating device there's lots of low hanging fruit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► they can do a local on device I think the During the stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► What they're doing all these things are doing despite characterizing it as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► and they're doing Google like things they're doing it on your device but it's very Google like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► and these are the best the best things rule things that people like so I think these sort of intelligent features. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1974">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► If they work well. Will help Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► Catch up a little bit to the good impression that Google makes in people's mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► when it does smart things of like presenting them with information just in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► Into them with context like even just a simple stop of money about this later. Really easy to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► But once someone gets used to it. Any device it doesn't have that. That very simple context awareness will seem dumber. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► Yeah absolutely. The other thing that I notice that Apple seems to be doing a lot with is natural language processing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► And I can think of an example right off the top my head that that was from the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► but something like fantastic Alice famous for so you know dinner tomorrow with Aaron at five P.M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► and You type all that out you type the words. Dinner tomorrow with Aaron at five P.M. and It will parse out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► The relevant pieces and file them away in a counterpoint as expected well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► This wasn't specifically about calendaring in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► but they were doing similar style of natural language searches in like spotlight for example which are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► impressive I think they did a sample of photos if I'm not mistaken and even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► and finder on the Mackley I mean that. Like that that engine was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► It was on the mac it was in Finder it was in Iowa us in spotlight and in Siri. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► It's like that was really all over the place and it looked pretty impressive. The challenge I think for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► I do going to challenge is like you know. Deeks like us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► We won't know what we can do there like he was what is the Cape prefix constants K M T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► Like that query syntax makes sense the geek I remember loving Altavista because it works in such a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► deterministic way you could do plus or minus words the pages would have those words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► and it made absolute sense the Magoo came along it's like I can type words of the Google search box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► but some of these words might not even appear on the page because if I type like how to cook an omelet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► The page might not even have the word how in it like it's a different mode so if you're programmer you know I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► wanted to turn a stigma Sheen just tell me the query language and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► but that is not how people query things and so yes but I have had all these features for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► Nobody uses them except geeks and even geeks can't remember all the stupid K. Prefix cons and so this this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► Upgrade to spotlight of having natural language clearing and the penthouse. All great example of like. I use Google. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► Appointments partly because they do a little bit of that natural language stuff like I do like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► One pm haircut. Even something as simple as that. Trying to enter one P.M. Haircut. In Apple's things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► The way harder than typing one pm have a haircut. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► And it shouldn't be harder and so Apple is again playing catch up here but long overdue or nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► I think it's a lot of room to grow but when I say like oh you know during dinner with Aaron at seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► but if you know two people name Aaron. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► Yeah that's right things fall down and like like oh well maybe a present a picker and shows me the two people air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► and I think the one that's like the next all the next loveless look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► Ninety nine percent of the time I mean that Aaron and. When I say Aaron. Just take that one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► Put the tech are up and if I don't do anything with it just a fault is that like that's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► It's like next you know getting a sort of human assistant level where I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► I don't need to clarify who it is or even if you could like. If they were on find your friends. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► Find my friends and one of the people is not within flying distance to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► and I think I believe that live in a difference I don't know that there is a long way to go to do you know intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► system type stuff so it's good seeing Apple. Getting a start in this area. Well and a lot of the stuff is hard like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► If you think about an actual system which I don't think any of us have ever actually had right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► No hops right now because of limited usefulness he's mostly moral support. But. But you know he so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► So actual assistance even have problems with the thing like human beings have problems with a lot of these things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► if you say something that is ambiguous or. Or can be easily misunderstood to mean something else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► You know like then that this is this is a problem that an on some levels can't be solved. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► Or has like a ceiling on how well it can but I also do they need to clarify the system or go to some A clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► and so a computer but the computer can be maddening that clarifies every time I call Jesus yes it's still that Aaron. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► Always going to be that unless another Aaron is in play like that up went with them I've received an e-mail from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► really like write things that a human assistant would know whether the half. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► The humanism would not repeal a clarify which Aaron you're talking about to start. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► Because there's two in your address book like just because they're in my address book they don't have equal value. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► That they don't have equal relevance to me and that type of information about who is again to require global witness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► Maybe that person other areas in your address book. Because he said to me about three years ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► That's the relevance of that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and you don't want to delete it you might want to email them again like they are real estate agent or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► But we've got a long way to go in this area but it's good to see getting started. Yeah and that is the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► That's the kind of area. That Google is usually much better at the National. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► And that's what I worry a little bit about like. I'm curious to see how this ends up working with Apple. If. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► If they show signs of being able to do this kind of thing. And improving in this area because historically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2274">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Again they I think they've lived very far behind Google historically and in that kind of like big data problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► We will see. Absolutely. Do we want to talk about the Apple Pay. Changes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► When more specifically Actually I want to bring up. We saw two women on stage today. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► and it was so surprising that I actually wanted to call out a text message I got from a co-worker as I was sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► the keynote. I believe this she was referring to my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► My co-worker was referring to the second woman who came on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► and I apologize because I don't remember their names but I got this text message from. From my friend at work Chris. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► She said. What a woman presenting something at Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► Then you know that was phenomenal to her in this is someone who is like really enthusiastic about the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► But generally speaking doesn't pay the kind of attention that we pay so this is like a quote unquote normal which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► such a dismissive way of describing her and I don't mean it to be dismissive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► but someone who doesn't really follow this like we do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► Was stunned that there were was one woman brought on stage let alone two and so I'm really pleased that that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► That Apple's finally listening and making the strides and front of the show Christina Warren who is on the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► What two weeks ago. She actually interviewed him cook was it's Sunday night I believe for Mashable and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► She had pressed him on this a little bit and he said basically watch this space and sure enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► We watch the space and there were two women percenters and I thought they were great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► And I was I was teased in that interview and it's. Good day like. You can you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► Tim Cook is very forthcoming does that with the whole diversity report everything that they have not done well in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► and they are making changes to improve things or that half woman was a majority women No but it was more than zero. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► Like you know that it was you want Evan Wright and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► And the other thing to keep in mind about Debbie every say is like well the glory things like the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► and like the State of the Union used to be just all men. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► Right and now getting women there is super important but if you don't go to W.D.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► You may not realize how many technical sessions the W.D.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Are presented primarily by women like they're the main speaker for the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► or incorporate women like there are women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► and that was the whole thing is like there are women on Apple's team like Apple's diversity is not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► It's not great but it's not terrible and like it was very commonplace to see women giving presentations on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► and any type of presentation and W.D.C. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► But you never saw them in the keynote So that's what made all the more glaring it's like well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► We've got a company full of all these people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► But really the only people who ever get to talk is Tim Cook and a bunch of other similarly aged really apparent men. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► And so yeah that makes and like. That's all things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► We don't know the names these people Steve Jobs as big like not telling you the names of anybody who's in the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► several like the big headline executive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► That's what everyone thought it would be Angela whose last name a carrot out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► and well Aaron psycho showed that one got there because she is the woman who is on there. You know. C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► Level executives page. But there are tons of women at Apple. And I don't think it was particularly hard to find them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► Like you know who's the head of Apple today apparently this woman who we never knew before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► Because you know who knows her present the apple pie apart instead of having Phil Schiller do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► It just makes perfect sense and I think they did a great I think they both looked a little bit nervous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► As we know the men who presented with first time also felt a little nervous. Oh yeah I think the second one up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► She had a really good joke about reading S.P.N. For the articles and she. The reaction examiner and the groom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► And the room was good at they were they did much better than a lot of men first time presenters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► And it's difficult for them to be in the spotlight about Lego are you just a woman present or are you like. These are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► People in charge of these part of the product that is like plucked out of your woman can you talk about this project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► like they're in charge of this is their job so it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► I thought it was exactly what it should have been the actual women behind important technologies present. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► Doing presentations on those technologies that they created their team created so big thumbs up. Yeah definitely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► So I brought up Apple pay because it was you know the woman who was in charge of Apple had a presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► and I didn't think there was too much there to one pack the couple highlights for me were loyalty cards being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► integrated into passbook which is sort of not passbook anymore will get there in a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► That's really exciting to me because about a year ago I tried to slim down my wallet from being as thick as. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► John's wallet which I'm looking at next to him and it's like four feet thick. It's all money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► Well to make it rain in here. Yeah man. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► But now the fifteenth single didn't want to do notice triclosan school where you have to talk in the post show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► how wrong a trifold wallet is but will eat at another time. But anyway so. Loyalty cards are now in passbook which. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► When I went through this like wallet cleansing and purging event about a year ago what I found was I had you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► Bunch of loyalty cards that I use once a month. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► But I want to have them because they save me money or whatever earn me perks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► or whatever the case may be in so I want to have them with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► and so what I ended up doing was putting those all my glove box well. In my car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► Well it would be awesome to have that in pass book so I don't need to worry about that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► and that's exactly what's coming with eyelets nine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► I thought that was also any thoughts about that before I move on gentlemen the favorite thing I have a low key cards is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► that once you get a loyalty card and you put it into Apple Pay. It's a signifier that store except apple pie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► Because otherwise how would they let you put your well the carter so it is you know if you're going to slim down your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► wallet. You should be pulling out. Like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► Pulling out credit cards ignore now but pulling out loyalty cards are going to have but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► and all that means another location where you can use apple pie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► and having used Apple Bay now for a while I wish every place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► Could use an amazing that's much more can mean the digging out your big giant wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► and point things out of it so it's going to take a while for us to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► but I can imagine certain people if they pick where they shop very carefully which is exactly what Apple wants like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► should. You know frequent. Apple plays stores. As a reward for them carrying out a pay. I'm so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► I've been surprised so far at the success of I'll buy one of the ones that one of those that tried to use Apple play. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► Didn't take it was up on the slide Trader Joe's I went there like you think apple pie like all sorry we don't well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► they're going through this year. So you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► They're not going to go one by one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► and all those old stories that we go Do you know it's also the other thing I wanted to know about Apple Pay was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► they are now. Partnering with square but I'm assuming it's a partnership anyway they're partnering with square. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► Based Apple Pay reader to work to work with Square which I thought was a phenomenally bright idea for both companies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► mean to me it seemed like a win win. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► Because you know squares becoming kind of omnipresent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► and even in places like Richmond you know it's not a San Francisco thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► and even in Richmond you see any sort of independent vendor is using square now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► And then to have Apple pay support for something as ubiquitous as Square. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► I think is extremely bright and it seems that both square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► and Apple are pushing that pretty heavily which to me is brilliant so I definitely applaud that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► Yeah I mean that that is a genius move like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► I'm kind of Honestly I'm kind of surprise it didn't happen when Apple he was alone was launching an all but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► But I'm glad is having now because that will. That will make it a lot easier for a lot more please take it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► They're complementary systems because remember Square is always been like all this is the reader that you put into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► headphone jack on your thing and you know if you have a kiosk you use an i Pad kiosk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► and the net like a hook up a card swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► or thing to it like they always had sort of like the last mile problem of payment like how do you get a thing from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► customer that lets you pay with and magnetic stripes are so barbaric that there was no. The barrier is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► Now that has been solved. Hopefully your customer well heeled customers all have i OS devices that have Apple Pay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► And it works best and city is filled with people who have i OS devices. Know what square is filling a need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► Like you know. Wal-Mart is going to use square. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► Like the big credit card processors are geared towards the big customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► but if you're to selling a bunch of stuff out of like a kiosk or something like a craft fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► Having Square is awesome because it makes us fancy of the big vendors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► But it's something you can set up yourself in a weekend. And take payments from anybody with an i Phone. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► Yeah I've definitely applaud it. Mark I want to tell so something else that's cool. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2760">TS</a>]
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00:47:54 ◼ ► If you can't respond you know you can do the whole call for you it's really you know that's that's a very impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► feature that hopefully is very important to some people. If they need it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► They can also do you know lighter stuff like you can remember where you parked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► If you has you know it knows return the car off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► and your phone's in your pocket your phone is where you are so again you can combine intelligence from these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► devices to really offer some great features. So automatic It's available at automatic dot com slash A.T.P. Now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2891">TS</a>]
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00:49:29 ◼ ► Today was Federica teaches birthday it was Christmas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► It was everything to Federico and I actually exchanged a couple of text messages with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► and suffice to say he has decide I'm selfish because unlike a million dollars in roaming fees. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► I don't know well thank you thank goodness it was actually I message but yeah anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► There's a lot of attention paid to the i Pad and a lot of features are pretty not that many but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► but important features to make using the i Pad as a workhorse. A much easier and more productive. Device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► The quick and easy ones they seem to be doubling down on keyboard support physical keyboard support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► So they have an all taps which are command. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► Tab God Oh no and I mean really don't think oh God here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► and now I want to crawl in a hole I'm going to crawl under Marko's bed real quick and in cry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► They have a command says the weight of it all yet I thought weird at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► They have can tap what you're I think they're more keyboard shortcuts they kind of flashed a few things on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► and I didn't get a chance to catch them all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► But what was really interesting is and I want to play with it because it did not look terribly intuitive to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► but I suspect once I use it it won't be so bad is the keyboard on i Pad apparently is now a track pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► when you use more than one finger at a time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► Did you guys kind of catch I was trying to watch how that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► and it was flying by way too quick for me to really understand this is a feature of one of my favorite i OS apps that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► really hope that Apple would bring everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► But I use it on my phone to a terrific added a feature in a recent version where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3053">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► If you swipe not on the keyboard of you swipe on the on the text. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► Area where you're composing a tweet it will move the insertion point. Oh really. Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► Oh you know that you should try it and once you get used to that you hate every other text. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► Thing that is always annoyed me. It always annoys about i OS overall the entire system understand why the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► Is sort of just against my computer religion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► All of the all of the interface elements that I was brought up with react as fast as the computer can react to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► Right so you click on a window closed which is the window closes maybe there's an animation or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► but the window closes right. You double click. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► Fast as you can double click it registers a look at happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► but I.O.'s because of the limited interface had to have a bunch of things where you have to tap and hold. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► And there's nothing you can do to make that hold faster you don't hope for the mirror now time you don't get tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► and hold. And so many things I was require that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► Selecting text tab hold and that hold him in maybe doesn't bother most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► but I feel like I'm waiting for the computer is waiting for me I'm going for the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► or we're just waiting to gather in a pointless way. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► Moving insertion point I find really frustrating if I want to put the insertion point the beginning of the line I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► frequently tap. I'm too close to the edges digitizer didn't get it topple it's not like going top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► If I want to move left one character requires a super precise tap on my giant meaty finger to move the left one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► character. Whereas in Twitter ethic. Swipe left. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► The insertion point was the less life left left left left three characters as fast as I can swipe right right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► and so what they were showing was a different way to do the same thing to say Look how fast I can move the cursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► around there's no way you could accurately move the cursor around a fast as they were demo ing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► And yet they're basically using the service like a track by which is different swiping but it's like. It's like they. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► There's no mouse on I.I.S. They didn't talk about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► But this is really darn close to controlling it cursor with the trackpad on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► and i OS devices like your finger is not the point your finger is moving around on the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► and another thing let's call it the pointer is around over there. And I love this feature I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► In principle I haven't tried it yet to see if they've at the implementation is intuitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► but I love the limited version of this in Twitter epic and lots of other apps I'm going to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► I think Android has lots of versions of this with their various keyboards and interface. This is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► I hate cap and hold I get anything let's move the insertion point around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► I'm really glad they're doing this I really hope they also do it on the i Phone It wasn't clear to me which one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► these features stay on i Pad and which ones come to all I was devised is. Yeah I'm pretty sure that was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► I Pad only Yeah that's what I bought it for this release maybe next year some things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► and some things like I think you're right about the trackpad but I think some other aspects of the new keyboard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► They're shown or mentioned to be available they will fall the bait is them a find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► but I think there is no reason that a lot of these features should be limited to i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► Because I got to the place where I use a little swipe the future the most is an i Phone app with the trackpad area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► You need to have a big area to move around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► or you to the people they don't want you to put two fingers down with one of the gestures like a two finger thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► how do I. Yeah a place for two fingers on my phone thing but I like plays Apple. We need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► If anything you need even more sort of the way to move the cursor around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► or Texel actions in a tiny little i Phone screen is so much harder to get your fingers in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► and just getting less caught built a small. Mike was wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► Then the other big feature that they talked about for the i Pad is a multi Bleich real honest to goodness multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► in the sense of multiple things on the screen I don't call Windows. Yeah they're not window. Right but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► But multiple apps on the screen at the same time and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► Remind me the terminology because I was paying close attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► and because I haven't played with this yet it has really sink in so there's some mechanism where you can like swipe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► but you can't interact with it is that correct no so so you're so there's a slide in your slide over whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► called right where it's almost like notification center where it just kind of like literally like you couldn't swipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► from the right and you can slide in an i Phone app. Over top of the running. I Pad apps running full screen or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► You can actually see you know actually see shrink the current running app. And actually have them both side by side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► At the same time so if you don't know if you only think. I dove or thing. The slide over thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► First of all that works on more i Pad. That works on your retina Padmini. Hi Stephen and. That works on on most. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► So any anything with retina screen that isn't over and i Pad three basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► and then if you have the i Pad air to only the most recent full sized i Pad. That one is the only one that can do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► Actually running two apps like indefinitely because unlike the other mode where were you just live on in temporarily. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► The background that becomes unavailable until you slide that app out of out of the way and right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► So that's I think that's mostly I mean. It might be a power user price segmentation issue partly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► But I think it's probably also just like RAM concerns of trying to access active it Rameau I was going to guess that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► was C.P.U. For the first I was thinking RAM but then I was thinking like. It can't be ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► Because all those same apps are expected to run on machines with one gig of ram. That's true. Right and so C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► Because it's not limited I don't think is it limited you have to do special support for for the splitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► Is there a limit on what kind of apps you can put in a split pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► and I don't think there is either way what I was thinking of as it so you trying to split between two games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► and both games use every ounce of computing power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► I Pad air to maybe the only thing that can run two out simultaneously with acceptable performance if one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► or both of those apps are very demanding. Yeah and this might be you know that if it is C.P.U. Relevant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► The i Pad air to ship with this third corps that like that they really under played at the launch they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► It's better to as it has had ridiculous performance compared to other IOW as I said it is so much faster and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► and here's the thing I like like also what they sell Macs all the time when P.C.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► Use it is like well if it's slow it's slow but there's the expectation and i OS device that. If an app works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► It should always work and. If it works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► And then you bring and then you split screen and all of a sudden get super slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► and crappy like oh well this thinks it is the expectation on the macro used to like the activation of the MCAS if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► One of your apps could get worse because you go to much other crap on i OS it's like well if your runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► or doesn't run it's like a game console in the works or doesn't work. And to have an app that seems to work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► But then you bring in like a different application in a splitter paying to run the ball the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► and then it doesn't work as well like the frame rate suffers or the sound sound problem like I stutter but like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► Whatever the the working where his non-working state is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► but I think they're trying to keep the expectation is look if you're operands it will continue to run even if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► another one running right next to it right. Like an appliance like they just don't want to you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► And you're right it could just be market segmentation I want to sell more I paid actors what I'm looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► technical reason. And I honestly it's probably some of both. You know. They do want to sell more i Pad or two's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► They do want to just sell more new i Pads period because you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► One of the biggest problems they have for i Pad sales. Is that old I've had continued to be pretty useful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► People who are using them they don't break. Right exactly like a lot of people still use like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► I've had three The i Pad twos and they're fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► So you know it you know they might get a little slower over time but like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► There aren't a lot of compelling reasons pushing people to upgrade their i Pads. And this. If you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► If you are if you've been frustrated by the limitations of trying to get work done on the i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► A lot of people are going to look at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► This and say Oh well if I if I get the i Pad air to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► or whatever new i Pad to come out this fall presumably then I'll be able to work better you know so that will drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► sales no question the one thing they didn't show that I really thought they were going to show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► Least maybe didn't I blacked out during this period I can tell me they had to think side by side never like looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► the a link in a notes happened so far is on the left I can tap the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► and it loads right in Safari like you know you don't have to switch apps you have everything contacts I really wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► them to grab something and drag it from one of those planes into the other. I really wanted that that happened. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► They didn't do it right next year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► Thought they did didn't they weren't thing in the notes happen they took like a link from so far he had been I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► right maybe they were dead on the Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► I think that's what I'm not sure I'm not a company so I don't know that if anything I've had that's like way every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► you talk about Federica teacher who is a big fan of using i Pad His main computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► And I've always been talking about the i Pad Pro that like the i Pad is a better computing device for regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► that you can throw in front of somebody and they can do useful work in it much easier if you throw a MAC or a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► In front of them right there is the future of computing but if it's going to be the future computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► and needs more capabilities I'm one of those capabilities like what if I'm just assembling a bunch of stuff like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► trying to make a document a bunch of but then because it's a pain in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► but if you have to switch the whole you know that your entire contents just carries replacement Something else we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► replacing like two things they announce that I won the i Cloud Drive app and suicide by side things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► That looks a little bit more like a I can pull from here problem there assembled that document made of media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► and a bunch of other places open this up in an editor application tweak it drag the resulting version into this like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► i Pad Pro Now has it even more reason to exist because I mean maybe you don't get three splitter planes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► but the to splurge that you get can be. It can be bigger and better and it can have a bigger C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► To have more stuff going on with this like they're reinventing the mac on the i Pad They're trying to give you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► The capabilities that you have on the mac without the complexity without much of the complexity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► Well and also you know with the better hardware keyboard support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► You can do all these things and do it do the more efficiently with a hardware keyboard which is also appealing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► It was a bummer to me though as a pretty big fan of the of the i Pad Mini was a bummer that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► As of today as it exists today there is no i Pad Mini that supports the I think they're calling it App pinning which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► like the split Yand with split screen two apps running simultaneously set up and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► I would hope in assume that this fall when the i Pad Mini what are we up to for something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► when the next i Pad Mini comes out that maybe it would be supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► but I also wonder if maybe they will still say well the screen is to physically small to support two windows that wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► to know this is only a full size i Pad thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► And even though I only use i Pad for goofing off ninety nine percent of the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► and I wasn't planning to go back to earlier in the conversation wasn't sitting here now planning on upgrading to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► and today I might have found the reason to do so so I'm a perfect example of someone who might have just been pushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► into upgrading who may not have otherwise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► And the picture in picture thing I think is another thing where it doesn't require because the you assume video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► playback you know is that a good hardware for that in everything it could be done even by wimpy devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► Even that is like. Well what if you know I'm using the ammo be ab. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► But I want to also be like reading email or scrolling through Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► Picture in picture throw a little window up in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► and now you can do for them that that really changes the game for whole classes of applications very alike people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► People will go away from the i Pad as they think of it as a single tasking device even multiple things are going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► just the ability to have a little video thing running in a corner it was just like a You Tube video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► or whatever just to have that off in the corner and to be able to do other things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► Really changes the game on the i Pad Now it is it's not your mac but it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► It's so much it's like going from zero to one is huge difference right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► I couldn't agree more because on the plane on the way here I would. Trying to watch an episode of Top Gear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► And then I kept getting text messages from like you know you guys or Aaron or something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► Because I'm in a plane I can only have one device on the Internet at a time because that's the way plane wife I works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3774">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► Well that OK I the all day pass from from go go before you on the planet you can find all your devices what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► Yeah mine blown one way. I had thought that I could only have one device online of the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► And so what ended up happening was because I couldn't effectively. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► Watch this video without the being interrupted constantly I said you know what screw it I'll take the i Pad with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► nicer keyboard that's easier to type on. I'll take that off the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► And I'll put my phone on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► and I had them both sitting on my tray table like a lunatic because that was the most efficient way for me to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► everything I wanted it once which was watch this episode of Top Gear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► While also talking to you guys or Aaron or whomever. And and. I had picture in picture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► That would have made this so much better and easier to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► or if you had a mac if you had a mac you get the right of the movie when no in the background on your message window. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► Like you know and you could arrange them ever you wanted picture and pictures a little mini version of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► Well what's interesting about this too is like this is major features that are i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► Only possibly big i Pad only that the i Phones can't do. And probably won't get if I had to take a guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► They they really have to do something to try to give more people are reason to use i Pads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► and use them more often over just you know I'll just get a big phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► And you know from Apple point of view from our point of view might we might just say will just make the phone better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► but a lot of people like there go they're going to now be pushed into either using their just in i Pads more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► or getting new i Pads and from Apple's point of view that makes sense as as as a goal as some of the need to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► So we'll see what happens I think it's I think what they're doing on the i Pad is smart. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► I don't know if it will turn around the kind of like plateau of usefulness the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► I've had seems to have hit for many people I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► but I guess I will tell you I think you really have to think Apple's wing is to you really had to age out the old ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► like they just like come on guys get rid of just stop using those things just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► They want the old devices to go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► and legs out of there's no differentiator like they don't they don't know what the product upgrade cycle is me i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► and now they're trying to hasten the demise of these older devices because they're holding they're holding back the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► progress of the platform with Apple. Right. Who's so often talk about it I'll be over to see this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► This is saying all right. We are moving forward. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► You're not you can't have these nice things we really hope these nice things are compelling to customers because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► the only way we'll move things forward. Although in another very interesting major way. The new version of i O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► and they're still selling a five to fifteen an i Pod Touch up there on the support of things like you kidding me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► that's that's what I think about you know. That's what I mean you mention like why can't they bring split screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► If someone. If you're making a thing. And you're like I want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► I want this game to work at all the things are going to make this game work on a five it's probably so hard for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► get that game to work on a five that they said oh by the way you get half of an A five because it's like I was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► can't support that at all like they should just get rid of the A five us. Devices but yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► It's better to use the I guess the trying to use the carrot here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► and say you don't get these fancy features on the i Pad at the very least on the phone stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► They seem to been limiting themselves to features that can live on I ninety five class devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► Albeit in sort of abbreviated form. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► Well but to go back to the quick step they did mention and one of the two presentations we've seen today that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► Coming Soon you can target sixty four bit devices only which is well after the A five day seven up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► Right so you Curly six. I forget I don't know how it's something that's not an eighth. Because they say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► So you can choose to target an app only it's sixty four bit devices which is sort of kind of all waiting to get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► this. Oh my God I really don't want to support the A five problem. But either way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► It was definitely some great advances for the i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► I kind of wish we had a live camera on Federico all this was happening. It was like having a live camera on you when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4014">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► Year I think that that would've been amazing but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► But now they're they're both Everything sounds really good I'm really looking for trying on my ex-wife though we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► that the splitting the screen stuff existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► and I say it like with our Yeah the last shows of Federico could have been totally shocked the truth character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► but it was nice to you know it wasn't just the splitting screen it was more stuff on top of that in the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► changes and you know so. Lots of i Pad love this time. You know. Speaking of swift swift to point out was the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► And that's the most fascinating and interesting thing to me about swift to point out is that it not only Swift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► Two point zero going to be open sourced later this year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► But a the reaction to that from the audience was stunningly enthusiastic Not that I expected people to be like oh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► But people were like We really amped up about it. Surprisingly amped up about it. I don't know what did you guys think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► I think that makes sense because I think as developers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► Developers in the modern age you know they have you're going to make a language that language is always going to suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► at some degree if it's pride to write. If it's a single company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► Language like that the everyone developers know you need to have an ecosystem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► and the best for languages especially like warfront A.P.R.'s frameworks where but for languages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► There's just kind of accepted that. If your language is going to be worth a damn long term. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► It needs to not be your own little private toys. You need to open it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► And it needs to be available to everyone needs to not just be an Apple specific thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► Having more people using your language benefits the language Apple can still steer the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► and be in charge of it because they write the most code and all the stuff but you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► Web get is a great example not even a language of programming languages programmers feel really nervous about the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► that you know even though Objective C. Is like well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► Is that open kind of sort of but Apple's been advancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► and it makes everyone feel better in the same way that I think the core was that having Darwin be open source which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4131">TS</a>]
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01:09:06 ◼ ► Is open source was a big comfort factor when I was ten was new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► and swift doing opensource now I think makes people feel a lot better about Swift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► So it is important to clarify though. What part is open source. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► Well that's the other thing I was going to bring up it's funny you say that because they said they're open sourcing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► language but they also said there opens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► Open sourcing some of the frame or other said Well entered library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► but I mean by all right your writings were like into an array. And I got the only thing to a lot of rain or a crisis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► There is no that's where the standard library so then saying we're open sourcing Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► and the standard library that's just like things with other frameworks I mean some parts of coronation already are open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► source but that's not swift You know like but what else is there to submit Are there any swift only frameworks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► I don't know at this point I don't think so I think math allow that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► So that all there is the language and the standard library. And then you know. Calling into a bunch of Objective C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► Frameworks. Many of which are closed source and will probably remain that way. Right so you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► I think it's the same deal with Darwin like the language of the compiler was already open source. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► The language the standard library. How do you know Linux port is basically say you want to write an app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► A program in Linux you want to use west to do it go ahead. Oh but wait I can't call into N.S.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► You're also action of course you can't like that's not that's not on Linux like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► And if they make this a bunch of frameworks only available to swift they'll be Apple frameworks that are close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► or just like the apple close friend works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► but you know core foundations the best example because most of it is closed but there is a version of the C.F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► Light or whatever. That's part of Darwin the same thing the rest of Austin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► A lot of us tend in the chorus and everything are open but then some parts of a proprietary like the graphics drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► or whatever that have proprietary stuff from envy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► and eighty i so I think this is exactly as open source is everyone was asking for us wish to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► and that's that's why everyone applauded the like you know put apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► and so clearly saying we're staking the future our platform on this language. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► And it just makes everyone feel so much better to have it open. Yeah. Now do you reckon that we're soon. To find. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► Swift taking over for node or the Java Script framework to shore of the minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► and that suddenly everything server side was going is going to be swift defied. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► I mean that's things people talk about all you know it could be Apple dart Safari can run swish it of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4271">TS</a>]
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01:11:25 ◼ ► within the client side and server side and the client side would be a browser or would be a native app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► and you could run swift on the server like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► And I guess shared libraries between them are a long way from that that's what opening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► Open sourcing it allows the happen if it that if it's worth a damn as a server side language some presidents will try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► to use it and will see like maybe Haneke library support those libraries. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► That's the whole thing is opened up if you want to make a lot of very to make server side web applications with Swift. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► You could do that now because you wouldn't be like well it's great just to use Macs with your servers like the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4309">TS</a>]
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01:12:03 ◼ ► If a bunch of people may like a big library like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► You know some sort of server side framework for writing by about then it was awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► It would live and die on its own merits. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► But it is no longer limited by the fact that Swift is confined to the Apple world. I do think though that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4332">TS</a>]
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01:13:06 ◼ ► of math or unless you've implemented your entire data storage layer yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► and not using the foundation collection classes and like all the stuff that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4390">TS</a>]
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01:13:20 ◼ ► and stuff that are native to swift in that are bridge to the other stuff but it's. Yeah it's not like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► This is the step to in a long potential road to swift being more useful than it currently is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► but this is an essential first step to say. It's open. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4411">TS</a>]
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01:13:39 ◼ ► and can see the source to try to debunk their own problems because it is a young language in there are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► weird things and it's great when you have the the source to parrot what the hell's going on under the covers and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► You know who knows how many submissions I'll get maybe maybe Google will start using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► and give it a different name I don't see that happen I mean if they did start using it they would definitely fork it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► within a year like the Web good example that's open and then their kind of work together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► and I was like you know what we can't even work together on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► Now I don't see that happening because as with this clearly Apple's baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► but yeah this is the more of a a feel good moment and a opening of many doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► and we don't know how many of those doors will just lead to blind alleys or bottomless pit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► and I was nine that's worth discussing at this moment I don't think that well I think we think after the break we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4461">TS</a>]
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01:18:31 ◼ ► Excellent so now market you reminded me we should probably talk about news. Yes So. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► First of all I honestly I'm looking forward to the note that you think it looks pretty nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► And part of it is because I've never liked any of the solutions that do that that can be sync between mac. And I O. S.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► And I do so much work on the mac. That. Like I would love to use Vesper by our friend John Gruber. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► But I I've just never. We're got into it because they don't have an axe version yet. And. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4739">TS</a>]
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01:20:37 ◼ ► The fact that if I map is to bad things one IMO there's a weird flaky and two you have this weird. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► Dependency where you can't use notes. In a sink to Manor unless you have it in email account it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► How are those two things related anyway and you'd have to know well it's using on a map of the back which is gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► and has always bothered me but the reason I use notes is a guy called Marco said. Because there's a mac app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► And i OS app and I use it in both places and so I use notes I just read my toaster. No it's off of the note that and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► I'd really do edit those notes into places I I start entering them when i Pod I fix them up a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► when I'm on my computer at the thing that annoys me about no it's a they didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► I like the fact that has all these new features they didn't demo the one feature really wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► and the thing that always drives me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► when I'm trying to do any set it kind know it's in Iowa says I I find myself looking in vain for the tab key on the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► O. S. Keyboard. Because I want to outline view got a lot of life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► And they did show bulleted lists and they showed Rick's text and sort of headings they did not show outlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► and I find a lot of the notes I make are outlining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► and like in the in text that it has I think the whole over the next days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► People don't know I think I mentioned a few times of your in text editor on the mac and you had option tab. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► It suddenly goes into this weird pseudo outlining indent the rich text mode. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► Thing that I use a lot of not great or real outlining app like on the outside or something would be way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► but I want something that sort of available everywhere. Supported by the system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► So this stuff for notes that in the next version but I'm happy for a bunch of additional features. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► And I'll be super happy if this gets off the I'm at Bab back and then goes on to the new Cloud get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► and for real like the native. You know Cloud get document. Type stuff instead of I'm out because. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► Just seems silly to me and I don't maybe it's irrational. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► But I don't trust the does much but I just don't and I have had many cases the notes were no suddenly get duplicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► and I have no leads to blitz and so he stuff like that I'm hoping it will be better with the proper back and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► And I have to imagine that I don't think they would have done this. This big enhanced meant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► Which you know this might have been a total rewrite using what usually had clout get back and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► I don't think they would have done that if they were still using my map. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► And if they ever plan to move it off financially they would have waited in the same time minutes as the bag of bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► like you can put whatever you want and I get scared thinking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► when you select all the stuff in to make that into a bullet list like the using servo weird bastardized markdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► language behind the scenes that are really just as a big giant text I thought R.T.F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► but it's like there's a line between a bunch of weird things that humans were never supposed to see that make up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► file format. And something like mark down where it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► We just picked it you know it's supposed to be readable as plain text then we just we just made up our own plaintext [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► thing to mean a check mark that checked on a check mark is not checked out of the I I'm hoping the back end is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► on this one. But nothing they showed me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► Definitively says it must be they could pull this off on top of my map with a weird format under the covers I just hope. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► they're not. I'm guessing it's like H.T.M.L. You know something like that all maybe it is R.T.F. Who knows. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► R.T.F. Is a not a great format postscript will say. All right so I think we got talk about this new zap right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► Yeah that's basically I mean it looks like it's a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► or you know Apple board Apple is that articles with no visible means of support. Meaning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► I was pretty sure they did not mention a single time adds advertisers or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5034">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► and also on the page it says you can use I add. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► So I'm not entirely sure of the details we haven't had time to look into the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► but it looks like their solution is basically. If you want to monetize this. You can use our ad system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► The one that everyone lot I don't have in the world on fears of we don't know what their solution is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► Did and they presented entirely as an end user benefit we talk about the Facebook instead articles. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► Being presented as like. Here's the end user benefit instant. You don't have to wait for stuff to load. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► And then but they also said. Here's the publisher benefit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► We'll give you all your ad money you'll get lots of demographical you've got lots of reach blah blah blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► blah blah social sharing they could start here instead of you know like. They get to have that apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► Only gave the consumer have. This is a cool way for you to read news. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► Look at this nice applique at these beautiful articles and eyes a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► but they said look at his ranch layouts like that could be pitched art of the publishers a little bit. Hey. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► Like this looks like the New York Times don't get nervous New York Times your stuff with a look at the New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► but it was still I think mostly Tyrolese towards the customer of saying these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► These publications look the way you expect them to look they still have personality you can find them all in one place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► And I'm pretty sure. From memory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► That all the articles they scrolled through did not have a single ad of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► and it looks so allium because we're so used those scrolling through mobile web pages with a million ads and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► Like in the middle of an article is a gigantic square the size of your entire screen advertising something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► and add a block is not as pervasive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► and I always let's say as it is on the desktop I don't maybe Chrome has some options for I don't think of anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► can do in Safari Club or maybe like the N.S.A. Your router to kill ads and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► It just looks so weird to be reading all these news sites. Without an ad in sight and so I'm left to wonder. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► You know I like the consumer story sort of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► But what is the publisher story why oh why would wired and the New York Times and Rolling Stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► or whoever else they put in there. Why would they want their things to be in news. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► Yeah if you aren't going to their Web sites and they can show you any ad in the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► Like you have to use I And do you get to run your own ads I don't know as someone starkly tweeted I think it was Briana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► Snarkily tweeted worried about how this is going to affect the the application that Apple previously had in the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► newsstand which is really burning up the charts. If not you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► Newsstand and I can see NEWSSTAND it's been a failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► but it certainly has not been the success that Apple wanted it to be and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► Here they are taking another run at the same problem. I'm not sure if they've nailed it on the second try either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► So I've been looking through the fact and. It is it is very. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► It's interesting and it's kind of vague on some pretty important points. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► So first of all this is entirely based on R.S.S. For now. And they say there's an Apple news format that's coming soon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► But the details of such for matter not available yet. And the way this works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► Is it appears that they they will add R.S.S. Feeds for a lot of things by themselves and you can opt out of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► But then you can also sign up with an account. To to have like a management. Interface to submit your own R.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► Feeds for your own sites. So God knows how that's working out but. And then there's a submission status. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► And then there's some things about how can I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► Monetize in the answer is you can monetize with I add and you can set and it says you can sell ads that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► I guess I added just than serving it or you've entered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► So if you enter ads into I ad that you have sold you keep all the revenue. Otherwise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► If they sell the ads you know if you're showing their inventory. They sold. You get seventy percent so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► And there's a section of like you know what's required in the requirement basically has been are self feed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► And then what's recommended. And that says you know no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► Read more links no advertising with outside of I had some of that so this will be interesting. I I I see that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5270">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► I think the story for publishers. Is going to really depend on if anybody actually use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► Because that same thing when facing a newsstand like right idea but if people just file that thing away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► and never look at it not so good idea anymore. Right like you know with with Facebook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► The reason why Facebook is able to do something crazy like in articles is because it just have a ton of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► Browsing in face with they can throw around a ridiculous amount of traffic. And increasingly for publication. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► They kind of have to be a newsstand or I mean in that they have to be visible and Facebook somehow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► Whether it's thrilling journals like they depend on Facebook's traffic to survive or to stay healthy. And so you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► Apple with a brand new app that. You know on day one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► Certainly a lot of people are going to use it just because of the new Apple app and it's built into the zero S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► or Whatever. But it's not going to be the size of Facebook's traffic for for browsing. Stuff on the web. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► Is this going to get big enough to to make it worth the publishers participating in making things really fancy besides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► just the dumb R.S.S. Feed dumps that. The publishers eventually realize oh crap. We forgot to monetize or feeds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► And then they just stop supporting R.S.S. This. This could go very badly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► You know it's worth considering like you know what. What is the endgame here and. This first of all this is very much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► Not an apple like thing to attempt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► Like if you if you would have said like you know it was two with two of the big tech companies are going to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► during a three month period which two is going to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► I don't think you would have guessed Apple be one of them I think you probably get Facebook and Google. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► To have this be Apple is kind of weird. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► I think like the way they pitched it actually makes sense in terms of what the companies have like you just said so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► Facebook. Pitched way more towards the publishers. Because they've already got the users. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► Right there don't have to do to pitch that they did do the hey it's great under way for loading they don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5394">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► pitch to the customer so much we've got a customer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► People already using Facebook and Facebook controls what they see Facebook controls to feed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► In a way that they with power they have exerted time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► and again where this point that people is except that Facebook has a tremendous amount of control of what they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► and Facebook that they are not entirely control. So they push for the publishers. Apple's pitching to the users. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► Because there are far fewer publishers and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► If the users are there I think Apple feels like they can get the publishers on board. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► Especially if they can differentiate themselves from Facebook or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► And some what they need to pitch is that users because it's this all this is pointless if you said if people don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► So they're entirely going to the customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► and saying you are the ones that we need that we don't have if we can get you on board it will be easy to explain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► the New York Times and Vogue magazine or whatever why you should be in our thing. Even just if you're going to say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► Do it as a hedge against giving all your content to Facebook and letting them control your destiny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► And what's interesting to like they are saying this is the way forward so much that people in theory just tell me they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5454">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► Newsstand and I was nice here will say well not be mourned from Nate peel a user name emo it on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► He says that when he thought I was nine. Newsstand was converted into a folder which is honestly that's great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► Like what back when I was in used in Publisher I was saying they should do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► and this is great this is perfect for everybody for user. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► Who hated it who'd ever wanted to see it had to bury it somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► and for the numbers available it was worse for the people who used it all the time because everything was those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► and it was worse than for the publishers because their like their app couldn't be on the home right it couldn't be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► the dock it couldn't be like it was also buried like it was it really just didn't work out at all for anybody for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► side. Even for Apple because the knew what he wanted to use it and bad all around. So and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► This is also interesting that it doesn't seem like there's any kind of payment method built into this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► It's only ad based which is probably describing or anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► Yeah like I mean that's probably for the best is it does seem like on the web that just works a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► and is by far the dominant way to monetize web content. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► It is interesting that like they are kind of saying Our Will NEWSSTAND is done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► If you want to you know if you want to keep having apps that support payments in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► and I purchase subscriptions like those all still exist. And you can do them in an app separately from this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► But if you want to be in this news that been this ecosystem it sure looks like your stuff has to be free on the web. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► This is also interesting comparison thing without the mention like so this is like well newsstand didn't work out let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► take a second run of this problem. Whereas passbook turning into Apple wallet is not like all passbook didn't work out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► Take another run it without the wallet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► Apple wallet is a pass because always supposed to be like the same tech on your lying with a little H.T.M.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► Things that make the little cards and everything but when passbook was launched. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► They didn't have a financial component to it so it makes me go two ways one is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► They wanted to be this pass book thing and that turns out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► Payments that right into that in payments are more important the second is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► They always wanted to be Apple wallet but you can't launch a thing called wallet with no money inside. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► It just as boarding passes. Like the entire pass book project. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► Everything they did as one hundred percent used in Apple wallet like all the tech that they worked on for all that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► How do you make a pass book How to get in there what is it made out of how does that update itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► You know all that stuff for for all your boarding passes and event tickets and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► All use an awful lot of just now that I that we have album. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► Now sort of reveals its final form like it was always Apple wallet or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► and so passbook has become the beautiful butterfly of a lot and NEWSSTAND is just getting stomped on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► and there's a new thing with News in the name that is as far as I can tell. Unrelated to newsstand in every way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► And we'll see if they got it right at them. Yeah. What's weird to me about news is that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► I feel like it's solving a problem that nobody really had because I mean granted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► Maybe you couldn't solve this problem with Soli safari in the things that are baked into I.O.'s But you know Flipboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► is really good and. I don't think that we that the world was yearning for a footboard replacement. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► And yet here it is we're nearing for reading list either. Well. True. And so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► I'm surprised that this is somewhere where they seem to a put a considerable amount of effort and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► I'll certainly try it once I once I moved to I O. S. Nine which by the way pro to pay if you learn anything from us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► Just don't yet just get better one just wait a couple weeks for Beta two to come out at the earliest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► and if you're if you're wise are going to wait until like July. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► Before you get a really nice generally like the pro move is. Don't and so on before Beta three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► Usually by then they've worked out most of the major problems that that would prevent you from being able to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► like on your day to day phone. The wisest move is never to install the beta but if you insist which most of you will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► Yet. Wait till they had two or three. Unless you're developing obviously if you have a spare phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► But whatever you want to never talk about it don't put it on your main phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► but you're right host your main focus while travelling at the B.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5695">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► Because didn't you when I both put on five or whatever it was that had a notification center and most of us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► Deeply regretted it will never let me forget that I did I think I was also an idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► and did the exact same thing a terrible decision. Absolutely terrible decision. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► All right anything else and I'll ask Can we talk watch us. I think it's time to go to the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► All right so we're getting third party complications. Very happy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► That makes the super happy I'm really excited about this. I think if developers can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► Can keep themselves in check and actually do this tastefully. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► I think you can be phenomenal The problem is I'm not terribly convinced will be able to do is a totally They mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► like they're talking about the movie at the time trial feature like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► You know what if you have something you don't know what it updates like the score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► and a game like not the weather you can updated every hour. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► The score in the game updates you don't know what it's going to be you want to know as soon as someone scores a goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► you can do a push notification a priority push notification from your server that goes through the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► and I mean really thought. Video complications. Push it push a frame of video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► What if your desk I can push push push push we're going to look up with a little bit tiny little video in the corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► That is the kind of abuse you're talking about I think yeah not being paid full and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► and we've seen that Apple is seemingly either unwilling or unable or both to police. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► Notification of the use of video wouldn't work obviously is doing well but yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► and we'll get to this with native apps that you could really hose someone's watch I didn't feel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► Maybe I will go to the sessions later learned all the crazy limits are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► But so what do you say I can send a portion of Haitian whatever I want up that a complication. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► You could keep that poor watch like is trying to go to sleep is trying to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► and you know I'm not doing any mode to keep getting these notifications like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► You now have the power I think to basically make a badly behaved app that drains someone's watch battery way more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► you know this we're in the glory days of the watch now where everyone says the last all day and there's no problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► but now you just let random developers do stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► Especially if you have like apps installed by default is that the default on the thing like I think it is yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5815">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► That's probably a bad default because he'll install some crappy game. On your i O. S. Device play it once. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► Not like it forget about it maybe you didn't delete it and not know that it put some watch good thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► I guess if you don't make the complication show it's not the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► but I mean I'm I'm kind of fearful of the things that native watch apps. And the complications can do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► Like that they'll be able to connect up like I put the complication into the complications actually updating once every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► thirty seconds all day. Not only no good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► The one thing I'm curious to hear about later in the week is how does it work for the different sized complications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► That's one thing in a bright that has no analog anything on it and some of those complications are physically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► You know they take a cut of the real estate like the main one in the center of the of the watch face. And yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► They also show it so they showed some of those and they also showed third party. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► Complications like there was a Volkswagen like how charged is your Volkswagen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► And it was basically like a little circle kind of like the activity rings that went around the V.W. Logo. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► And that's one of those little teeny tiny complications that's kind of square shaped. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► I'm curious to see how that works you know what do you do you spend I presume I started classes yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► Maybe but don't forget you also have thirty eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► and forty two millimeter another good point I hadn't considered that yet and then you have things like your probably. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► I mean we have most of the A.B.I. At that you're probably given like an accent color. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► That you have to use the fight that this is their party complications are technically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► Probably one of the think they can do because it is so incredibly constrained that yeah the number of things you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► do there I don't think you have. You know like core graphics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► You just draw whatever the hell you want there are maybe you're going to be making up a ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► and passing it over maybe you have a simple time maybe gymnasts that you pass in a tree so I can match. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► It is huge bang for your buck because it is the thing that you see when you raise your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► and a lots of things you can imagine it could be super useful even just something as simple as a sports car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► Having a sports score as a complication on your watch is something that mechanical watches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► Could never dream of you know this is the real differentiator like yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► I can see what day of the week it is I can see the face of the moon I get the all thing I can see a live sportscar now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► or you know forget about physical watches just stomping in their faces and then this brings us to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► What is a time machine time travel What are they called Not Time Machine time travel I said I have a missed opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► they could have. All The Time Machine up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► Time travel and for that allows you to do is as you're looking at your watch face you can spin the digital crown. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► And you can move forward or back in time to see what your complications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► Either did or would reflect at that point in time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► Which I think is absolutely fascinating and reminds me of the pebble time is that correct. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► Which which works in a vaguely similar way where the the idea behind that is everything you look out on like the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► interface is kind of like a timeline. And this isn't exactly the same a very similar in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► And I really dig the idea of like we were talking about whether a leader John had brought up whether as a complication. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► Being able to see well at five o'clock what's the weather going to be like in it at the very least you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► numerals for the temperature or perhaps you can get like an icon that will tell you whether or not it will be overcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► So you know you can spin the crown kind of see how things are going and or you can see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► They actually use an example in the second session. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► How did this team that I this the soccer team that I loved how did they lose they lose the last second do they lose by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► not scoring in the last forty five minutes and you could scroll back on the digital crown and C.E.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► While they had lost in the last second I think was example so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► I am absolutely fascinated by this I had written a blog post wild I'm not the only one I think Marco a done the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► with a few people have been saying you know third party complications would be really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► and I think it's tastefully done and that's the key if tastefully done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► I can see how this would be absolutely awesome to have in just like John said earlier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► You know when when all you're doing is flicking up your wrist to look at the face of your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► and you can instantly see some piece of information be at a sports score the weather or what have you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► That is absolutely appealing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► and appealing enough that I would even consider going to the modular watch face which I freakin hate the body. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► But it's not that appealing to get that amount of information density would be fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► and by the way very quick aside they're also supporting a picture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► As a watch face which or not them or not yes actually excellent point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► or an album which I think is awesome because not only what I love to have like a picture of Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► But we actually have a shared photo stream that will post pictures of Declan for family and friends to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► and having it so having my watch they cycle through those pictures sounds awesome. The only problem though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► Which Marco pointed out to me is we're sitting in the keynote is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► Well we don't see the complications on that right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► and there may not be any companies are like there's not going to be I think of the complication is where do you put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► time so it's legible in the picture and if you have the complications now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► Like they have to you could pick a color that looks OK with in different sections of the picture a different color it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► actually pretty hard problem with arbitrary pictures if you put a bunch of complications of this look all splotchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► They don't even have complications on the ones they control that are like that will you Jeff and the butterflies never. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► And I mean only there's only. There's what six or seven watch faces only three of them support complications. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► You know it's interesting like you know they do a new watch face but doesn't support this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► I think there's a lot that they could do to make the watch faces in the complications better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► But third party complications that's a major step in the right direction that that's a huge jump that I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► expecting to have yet to watch faces next year and maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► I don't know if you know I was delivered to their party watched. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► I think at the time will come at me it's like their party lock screens on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► and I don't think that's ever this like once you have complicated third party complications like well I get the put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► stuff in little places why can't you even if the third party watch races only could choose complications that were of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► the preset sizes which would probably be the case it would still be. If you just rearranged modular to put stuff like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► Not this year but you know anyway. A lot of things are Telegraph like I think the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► The time travel feature was telegraphed by the fact that on my watch face. By the way I have an Apple Watch now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► Case you're wondering. I'm on that in there. Yeah I my watch face. When I turn the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► When I turn that is a crown nothing happened. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► Yes I hear how how in the world could you have this watch the like it's major you why features like all of us did look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► around it's great and you just turn and nothing happened there. What do you expect to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► I spect I guess the hands on the watch to turn. Obert on the soul or face that something does happen what happens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► Right I was no complications so that in that they could do that they are you can move the sun on the solar arrays of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► You know how Could Apple ship a watch return in a crown does nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► when you're on their watch writes Well they didn't just wasn't ready yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► It's time travel at school does exactly what you expected to do intuitively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► and that already did on the solar face so even though they're calling this watch out west to even though there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6235">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► never a watch us one because I didn't have a name for those all lowercase watching whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► This seems like watching what's one point we're all using now is like the beta. Yeah. Like a one point one. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► Like I think we got to solve one point zero it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► but yeah this is this feels like one point one if you know the first update. I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► I always had a one point want to add up things like that like the G.P.S. Triangulation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► Relation and then through to edit apps right. Yet two point zero was apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► But maybe that's why they've hit what they were thinking but it is kind of weird out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► when I was so soon that has seemingly very few user facing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► And handsomest besides their parts of which is big but you know. There was super proud of themselves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► Of like this is going six weeks after the launch of one thought you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► Things come out when you know whenever they're done so. And we're getting native applications on the watch now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► It seems like they're intending to push. Developers to abandon watch kid as we know it today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► And move towards native was that the impression that you guys got as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► Well the way they're doing it is interesting. So I was assuming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► When we heard that they were going to be doing native as DK I was assuming all this time that like the watch kit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► Which does like you know the kind of like the remote control the interface on the on on the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► I was assuming that was just a temporary thing that was basically a dead end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► And as soon as we got native apps that we would be writing directly to like you I kid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► And what we have instead is they're taking the watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► They're taking watch kit which Watch get extensions run on the i Phone today. Right right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► But you're still writing watched it and you're still reading watch Kate code. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► You're still writing watched by and you still have many of the watch Kill him a taste ends but now they've added. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► You know a bunch of new things you can now call from watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► and because it is running on the Washington of on the phone it becomes more useful in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► and of course better in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► but those are faceless things right like you are LOTS of a few guys that you can get at to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► but not not not you I could not like oh I'm going to make this new layout and have this controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► and push these things under no that's not there but if you want to use all sorts of you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► Networking stuff because now you can do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► Why fighter I think in the watch or like audio or video processing and stuff like that you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► but it seems like the viewport through which you see the customer sees you and your interactive still watch Kitty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► Yeah. And it's and I haven't looked at the A.P.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► Yet to know for sure but it sure looks like you know if we're not we're not using my buttons here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► We don't seem to have like total free form layout control I think we're still using the watch kit. Layout. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► Methods which are more limited than the new like it. And we are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► We don't seem to have any kind of access things like animation of the elements which seems like a pretty big thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► When you get that when you write a full on native app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► They mention that you you know I could swear maybe I now know my confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► but I guess that they are I get for they mention that you can do some animations on the watching native watch apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► All right so maybe. So I'll have a look at it to see. We're going to study and I bet they'll toss. Yeah probably. Will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► Yeah those tickets John. So anyway. Yeah. So you know I think it is it is in some ways. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► You know simpler and more logical than I was predicting because I was I was thinking there I watch get started again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► But it also you know and that's that's a plus and minus like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► Because they basically just moved watching on to the watch and expanded it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► We can use our existing knowledge we can use a lot of our existing code. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► And so is less of a jump and we don't have to throw. Everything we wrote. You know a few months ago. Necessarily. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► But also it is going to be more limited and. Unlike a lot of the frameworks are more limited like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► My audio and I can't do smart speed on the watch I can't do it like there are there is audiotape layback. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► But you have to use their custom new player thing which is very limited. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► and there's going to be these limits all over all over the all over the US as as you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► when you're talking about like peer entering the smart Speedo yet something I could do will see if I if that ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► being good enough to actually do because like you know I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► Another big thing that they have some sessions on I have a lot of documentation at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► but you know there's there of course is the issue of communicating between the extension. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► You know between the the watch happen the i Phone app and data sharing and you know what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► when the phone goes away and what data do you have like it can read from the shared container which is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► but then you know. When it goes away to do all the operation just fail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► Like it has actually done your split brain then you've got to reconcile the already things that are a little sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► Exactly what you're serving your client so it sounds get sounds really hard so was I'll see what they have in store for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► but I'm still not yet convinced that I should even do a native overcast African play things on its own off without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6534">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► phone there. I I would not call that a guarantee that that. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► Aren't worth doing and you're going to least do it just to get the better launch time response in this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► You know I'm certain the play with that and see that that's for sure you know I'm most likely going to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► No functionality and all the data comes from the same places but fewer spinners. Hopefully. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► So yeah I'm showing the try it. But. But I don't you know I do not already done David Smith And how done by now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► Yeah he probably probably is that they probably did write it already. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► and you know besides overcast there's a lot of other apps that can benefit hugely from the so I'm looking for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► again I you know I said before. I don't consider the watch like a huge app platform. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► I consider it a platform that everybody uses a relatively small number of apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► But that that is incredibly useful to them. And I think you'll stay that way just thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► Just the apps that you can use will just get better now. And more kinds of apps will be possible now than were before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► But I still don't really see the watch as like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► I'm going to leave my phone in my pocket while I'm sitting on the couch and just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► Could be poking around in the wash for fifteen minutes like I don't think that's going to happen. No I agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► I heard someone else with the watch O.-S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► Two I don't think there's anything that they were like from Syrian prove it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► but you know for the most part it's about the. You know it's all about the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► The apps and I think that's enough personally. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► Then we got to the second presentation which show thanks a lot two or three sponsors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► Cards Against Humanity automatic and Squarespace and we will see you next week. Now the show is over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► They didn't even mean to be good because it was accidental with the with that accidental. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► John didn't feel any way the mom goes Casey wouldn't let him. Because it was accidental. It was accidental. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► And she was going to find show nom de de de da. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6656">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► And if you aren't trying to say and he was no says so that's keep lists and the N.T. Markel Ahmed Omar free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► Let's take the risk. She's been Yeah. So that Apple music presentation. Well it is the one thing developers care about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► It's music. Honestly I. Let's just pretend that didn't happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► And let's just pretend that it ended right before the one more thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► Because it was a much better conference I don't mind. So much the music things what I mind. A lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► Is that they they devalue one more thing. By may get making the watch one more thing. Felt appropriate. Yep yep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6715">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► If felt totally appropriate or whatever. This was not one more thing. And like that's fine they can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► They can take ownership of that phrase and make it mean something else and sort of devalue it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► That's Go for it whatever will get used to it after a few things that it's like oh remember one more thing was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► deal but now it's not anymore that's fine but it wasn't one more thing at one time safari for Windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► Steve Jobs could make one more thing anything you want jobs are one more thing was always like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► He felt like you had to have something cool. And either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► He had to fake it and pretend he was really enthusiastic about this are really wasn't his yeah I think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► but nobody else was but either way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► It was his thing he could pull it all right once he's gone it becomes like all that was his thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► If you do it now you're invoking him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► It's not appropriate to do they didn't do it for a long time to did it for the watch which is like the most significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► announcement of Tim Cook's tenure as Apple C.E.O. Felt significant felt like the right time to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► Now they're just going to watch it back to like every presentation we feel like we want to have this gag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6775">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► You know at the end with the One more thing. I don't know. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► But yeah they want followed was a really long kind of reading presentation that was not relevant to the developers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► I think even when they do hardware. That's more relevant to developers developers buy hardware right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:15 ◼ ► Well I mean you can argue that oh well developing listening music that's great but to me this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6795">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► That see everything they announce with music today seems like it's a lot more for the music publishers than it is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► us like we get OK a snazzy new looking music app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► Honestly I didn't find a music app that can Bollywood I wrote it was terrible music trying to pictures like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► streaming service that is I think that to try to picture both like this is differentiated from the other streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► services that we involve humans in the process and that the same reasons you like beets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► and their playlists because we we have people with taste who are going to do stuff it's not just a bunch of algorithms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► which is funny coming from a company that made genius which is a bunch of algorithms. I didn't write it but that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► Like that's their whole big pitches like this is a streaming service about with a difference and the difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6834">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► In some respects they're pushing the publishers like oh one place where you can go to put all your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► but that's kind of B.S. With you know like the publishers are going to put their music where the customers are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► And they have to have their music on Spotify is it so popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► and they have to have an apples because of I tune in that is going to spread around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► and I like the labels are going to like go I got to do this thing for connected and you got to put pictures here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6854">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► but you also have their You Tube channel years ago have a Facebook page where you also like. This is not clarifier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► Simplify anything from there. From their perspective so I think it was mostly just like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► and customers you'll like it because we hired a bunch of people who you respect who are going to use their musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► To give you something and they leaned on the no ADD thing like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► and get down to the nitty gritty details explain like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► How do the things that planter arrestor radio get chosen for to be interested radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:44 ◼ ► and it has almost nothing to do with what some person likes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► Everything to do with what record companies want to promote. And you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► The format of the station yet to play one of these and one of those in five of these and we get paid to play these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► and where they are really emphasizing on this one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► This is the music that a bunch of people we hired think is good music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► Which is which is very different from terrestrial radio. But. And you know Spotify. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► Different spot of a spot of eyes not real like a radio station. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► I don't know like they're trying to say we are better than the other way that you listen to music in these ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► but I was just too busy being annoyed by the fact that this is supposed to be a developer conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► and maybe I shouldn't be maybe it's silly. You know whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► That I should care about this maybe it's just because it was like a flabby presentation it was long and boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► and rambling say that's what I was going to say is that I can get over the fact that they're using one of the couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► times that they're in front of the world during the year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► To announce something that's somewhat irrelevant to developers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► However I just thought that entire forty minutes or whatever it was was just hugely boring and. I was just it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► and I think part of the reason I wasn't impressed by it is everything else in the in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► and even in the regular presentations at the public doesn't get to see throughout W T C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► They're all so well rehearsed they're so well orchestrated they're all so solid and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► This was just like a train wreck to me by comparison and. And I don't I just I didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► I didn't care for I've I wasn't really sold on Applebee's I remain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► Not really sold on Apple music what is it that you guys are doing better than anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► and you only think I got was a curation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► But I don't really care be fair like that is what a lot of people like about beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► and this is kind of you know usually beats between the two point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► or whatever that like you know like our friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► and connected will probably talk about this better than we can because they actually use these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► But you know people. People do like the human curation aspect. I'm interested in that aspect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► I wasn't really sure though from what we saw today like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► and that's why John was I well tired Zonegran after a long morning mixed in with although the south that we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► about. If I had to pull out the point that the points that are important to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7015">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► As someone who doesn't use the streaming services is music being taken away for music being being rationalize for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► And that you pay once for an entire family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► and they all get access to the music being rationalized into a single app called music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► And the fact of the app is available and right which clearly expresses Apple's intent to compete with Spotify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► and stuff. Not to make this is the way the people who own Apple devices listen to music but to try to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► Like i Tunes was before it. This is the way people buy music not just mac users buy music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► You know in the old days when before I was not just mac users not so I thought I was users is i Tunes for Windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► Everybody should buy music your i Tunes and that sort of the i Tunes error of buying songs for ninety nine cents. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► Seems to be. Be Moving on him around the new streaming age and it's important for Apple to stake its claim. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► No it's not. Not by making a Windows version of Apple music but making an Android version we're in the mobile are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► And so you know. Those two things one. Taking a. I Tunes music out of the ghetto I don't know if it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7074">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► Is this replacing i Tunes Match does it also put your stuff in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► or is this entirely separately the way this is priced the way we expect things to be pricing structure Day weekend I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► going to be structured and to saying this is not just an apple thing. This is a everything thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► They are trying I don't know if it's going to work but they are trying to relive their former glory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► And one time i Tunes define digital music. Now it no longer does they're trying to get that back with Apple music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► Pretty much think that perfectly encapsulates everything I had to say about Apple music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► So you have to talk about two important things during this after show number one what watch did you get John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► and hawing like oh I don't know if know we're going to use this thing I don't like wearing watches my main problem is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:44 ◼ ► just not like how the sport one looks. And the other one is just so darn expensive. And the end is a look. I like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7124">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► But I like them are expensive and I got the expense of I got the stainless steel one for two reasons one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► I like how it looks way better than the other one and two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► I wanted the sapphire scratch resistance because I'm not going to be doing sport things with it so impact resistance a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► But I've already scraped against things on. And then realized oh it's probably OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► Because you know you look up the hardness scale the thing I scraped it again The Also no scratches so far. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► I got a black classic buckle band because it just looks like a regular watch band. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:19 ◼ ► I'm not used to wearing watches the first day I wore it to me like crazy because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7159">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► when going arm hairs around this week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► This is my first week with the watch it arrived just before I came to the be obviously I'm going to wear it this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► week I'm just going to do it I'm going to wear it all day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► I'm already getting used to it it's a little bit heavy sometimes it catches on things but it's kind of neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► and looks cool. So so far to refuse to review. So far it's approved. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► The big test is after W D C week after I leave the place where thousands of other people also have Opera watches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► Do I keep wearing it to put it on when I go to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► and am I going to get into the Marco green ring cycle I don't know I'm not really have any weight to lose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:58 ◼ ► It's not even that like. It's very true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7198">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► I think I already have a significant amount of antibodies for these game of occasion of things that I've you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► I'm pretty immune to being guilt that into doing things by by my watch but I'm going to I'm going to give it a try. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:19 ◼ ► and up during the recording thought yes none of us that up know I thought about I really thought it was I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► and up the gag and the keynote which was a little surprised. I thought there would be. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► It was perfect opportunity even if they just want to pretend it was an ad lib [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► and not time the entire Kuno around they didn't do it all. And there were two opportunities. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► Yeah there you were all three was a to stand keynote. That's the new measure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► The other thing we need to discuss that's really really important is how in the name of all that is holy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► Do you have a trifold wallet what is wrong with I've always had a trifle was just in the wallet and it is pretty big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► It's not a good fans of August I would never put it in my back pocket what it is sitting down that's crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► I think they should have out so to it's fixed because it does have a lot of money and and a lot of cards. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7254">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► Like I would like to get rid of a lot of these cards. And also have some stupid business cards. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► Floating in there and we get a side view of this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:07 ◼ ► Not as thick as you would think that will hold it up close to your pictures I mean if I take all the money out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7267">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► bedroom money now then she did too much money how many i Phone stick is it yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► Seriously that's measured let's measure this is what I want looks like most of the time with no money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:21 ◼ ► OK you're Bakley no money and I would say it's roughly four i Phone stick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7281">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► I think that's fair for like three with cases. Yeah. And four with cases. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:30 ◼ ► It's tapered to it's been around the AS like it's like the air. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7290">TS</a>]
02:01:32 ◼ ► Yeah I'm in the middle of the make it part which is the why this part is well you know the bulk of it's the bulk of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7292">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► with. It is at least three or four I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► Don't think I like trifold better than than bifold legacy would call them I just I just like the way of a trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► But this is thicker than I would like I would like to get rid of a lot of these cards via fakes at the Apple pay VERY [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► get rid of more of them. So the problem you're carrying around like eight layers of leather there when it's full of up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► Yeah. I know. Yeah. The whole trifold thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► Like it's appealing for second because you can fold it on top of itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► and it seems to take up a lot less space than than a single folder bifold I guess wallet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:11 ◼ ► But it is insane every trifold wallet I've ever seen or had in one in my completely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7331">TS</a>]
02:02:18 ◼ ► Dress but Barrick days of my youth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7338">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► They were all like three feet thick and one is three feet this well maybe older than you Katie. Well. Very old all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► Well it's time for you know I hate because you can't keep it in your pocket so it isn't where it was doesn't matter at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:32 ◼ ► all it's likely wearing a little bit finally I think I don't know the reasons like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7352">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► So what kind of all to I have John you know. I have no idea. Because you've never seen it. Because the my pocket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► You don't have to take out my pocket when I sit down. A man brought a reason Rose with me because by hotel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► He carved thing is in it that's why I had it with me at all like I bring this with me to and from work every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► but it's not my pockets ever. It's in my back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:53 ◼ ► So you're one of those lunatics that every time you sit down it's like strip everything you know I put my backpack my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7373">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► waters in my backpack I don't put it in my pocket. That's that's where my wallet is weird. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7379">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► That's very old timer and I mean every seat was in my backpack that's insane to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► when I do you lose your backpack you lose your well it sounds like a bag as it were to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► and I you know you set it down when you're in the sessions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► And then you know going to get on the darn plane to go home to your family because you want your whole life my backpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► You know I have more problems finding a place to my phone because my phone I can't really keep it in my front pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:24 ◼ ► when I sit down to have trouble getting it out because I am big it does if you think I'm afraid I'm going to bend it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7404">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► Maybe it's already been done any want to look out a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► You're seriously turning away with revulsion at the thought of it. I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► but now I can't look away it's better not exist throw it to me else that on the table here will see an opera not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► to know. Dead pixels are so in summary. I actually I've switched from a single fold wallet to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► What is it for the U.B. Why U.B.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► and to be honest it's the year to hold my company to get a new one because some of the last tickets falling down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► But this is thicker dot Marco that's ridiculously thin. What do you have in there. Three credit cards driver's license. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► A metro card for the New York City subway which are they ever use and six bills fold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► and half of the zero business cards in there though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:20 ◼ ► That's true how will you know the phone number of the person who cuts your hair. What. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7460">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► I've never called the particular Harry I do a business card of the right thing the information phone I got you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► or anything I always do the business card I got a business card for a restaurant. No longer open. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► Let me tell you that business card right now and throwing it away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► Give it to me right now take it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:40 ◼ ► when this is a good place on the throne me the business card I tried to divert her on the floor. That's amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7480">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► So that's what you're keeping in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► and I don't see heartbeats like that the use of the problem people who receipts I have a bunch of business cards of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► things I have my hair cutting place. I have my insurance agent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► I have a one you have your insurance they might like the wall equivalent of speed. My barking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7497">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► Parking ticket for the airport. You know I had the Chestnut Hill Apple store. Thing in here. It's a home like God. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► And my AAA Carney. Why I had credit cards. What my driver's license. My house my health insurance card. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► Oh God this is ridiculous. Anyway. Yeah. It could be thinner the real problem is like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ9OmZ0/7518">TS</a>]