The Accidental Tech Podcast

113: Get Your Ears Ready to Hear Me Complain


00:00:00   oh sorry you can go back to listening to the Dave Matthews that you were [TS]

00:00:03   listening to that was so amazing right exactly ok so before you and I started a [TS]

00:00:07   fist fight about the gym and non je ambient no just champions [TS]

00:00:13   ok I tried so hard that let myself fall into that trap again helping others [TS]

00:00:20   ok so we should start the show by mentioning some legal news and this this [TS]

00:00:28   interesting thing is I'm not kidding so market would you like to tell us about [TS]

00:00:31   the Electronic Frontier Foundation the there is this podcast patent that ever [TS]

00:00:37   was talking about in the last couple of years [TS]

00:00:39   Adam Carolla like raising money and actually challenge because he he was hit [TS]

00:00:43   by a patent troll so the the patent in question was from a company called [TS]

00:00:48   personal audio they were they were patent trolling the podcast world first [TS]

00:00:52   for quite some time doing after most of the really big guys at the eff raised [TS]

00:00:55   about your money and stepped in and filed an official challenge to it and [TS]

00:01:00   cited real prior art and actually got the pen in value-added service this [TS]

00:01:04   decision came through a week ago [TS]

00:01:07   couple days something like that and yet the eff has succeeded in evaluating this [TS]

00:01:12   patent that was really threatening all podcasts and podcasters and podcast apps [TS]

00:01:17   and everything the deal to podcasts so I wanted to at least and I think we as a [TS]

00:01:22   whole I think it speaks for all of us to to just thanked the effort for doing [TS]

00:01:26   this and I would highly suggest to our listeners the eff does a lot of great as [TS]

00:01:31   the Electronic Frontier Foundation eff they do a lot of really great stuff for [TS]

00:01:37   for technology and their non-profit right I believe that's right the end [TS]

00:01:40   they are really they really fight the good fight on so many issues for tech so [TS]

00:01:46   I fully support the eff and I urge you to go in there and making the nation [TS]

00:01:50   right now so positive and eff will put the link in the show it's right at the [TS]

00:01:55   top so you can see it and they're really great can I be the downer and say that [TS]

00:01:59   the the idea that the entire pattern has been validated is almost certainly not [TS]

00:02:05   entirely true they get by like well major claims involved in the [TS]

00:02:10   have been but then they can appeal and blah blah blah blah blah legally so on [TS]

00:02:14   and so forth so like the fight continues and this is but one one aspect of you [TS]

00:02:19   know they're million their minds depends I believe the funded the abuses to fight [TS]

00:02:24   these is like Mark Cuban's battle against a bit patents fund or something [TS]

00:02:27   stupid and it so they are fighting the good fight and this is not the end of [TS]

00:02:32   the fight not even the end of the fire related to dump on getting patterns [TS]

00:02:35   because I'm sure there is a treasure trove both equally stupid patents or [TS]

00:02:39   even this one may come back to life like a zombie so yeah but this was a big one [TS]

00:02:42   and this is one that was being actively suit with and so this is pretty big news [TS]

00:02:47   and they did they not only filed to get key clinton value did they succeeded in [TS]

00:02:52   getting key claims about it so that's that is that is pretty big news this is [TS]

00:02:56   exxon so thanks to the eff in like Marcus said please don't know that [TS]

00:03:02   taking care of let's talk some follow-up so John you want to tell us about the [TS]

00:03:07   gap that may or may not exist on the Apple watch this is a topic last week's [TS]

00:03:12   show talking about the watch and i think is Marco heard from somebody that a [TS]

00:03:16   senior watching you can see the gap and he saw some of the videos and we [TS]

00:03:19   discussed it as like a possible thing they could improve on the future watches [TS]

00:03:23   the possibly make it thinner and make it look more like it does in the carefully [TS]

00:03:27   controlled beauty shots on Apple's website spread the riches of like a [TS]

00:03:30   black smooth surface that has the lights on it you don't see where the actual [TS]

00:03:34   panel is inside there a lot of people [TS]

00:03:37   burden to tell us that there is no air gap in there because you watch Johnny I [TS]

00:03:42   video he says that the screen name is landed to the crystal Jeremy her billing [TS]

00:03:46   for the line who sent this to us by Twitter and a couple other people said [TS]

00:03:51   that if you watch the video he says some models or something [TS]

00:03:55   screen nominated and I think who is this Marco in the note saying that maybe the [TS]

00:04:00   air gap is only visible on the sport and maybe it's laminated on the addition [TS]

00:04:05   and the the watch version of it yet because the claim is that most watch [TS]

00:04:10   models have have a display that is limited directly to the sapphire crystal [TS]

00:04:15   so that leaves room for the sport not to have it and also because the sport [TS]

00:04:18   doesn't have safire that I think that's probably pretty clear and it could also [TS]

00:04:23   be that the sport is still lineage just not to sapphire but that's an awfully [TS]

00:04:29   Lake twisted sentence for johnnie I have to have said unnecessarily you know I'm [TS]

00:04:35   guessing that there actually is some kind of small gap or something different [TS]

00:04:38   process for making the screen with the INX class for the sport vs making the [TS]

00:04:44   land it's a fire one end and I tried I I went to the Apple store couple times [TS]

00:04:49   since the since the watch became visible there and I tried seeing any different [TS]

00:04:55   in the two and I couldn't get a long enough to look at at them to really say [TS]

00:04:59   for sure but I was the you are able to see at certain angles the outline that [TS]

00:05:05   the rectangle of what the screen is versus what the whole front faces and it [TS]

00:05:09   does kind of ruined the illusion because the entire UI is designed for for [TS]

00:05:15   everything to go edge-to-edge to not have any margin at the iPhone UI there's [TS]

00:05:19   always some margin around the edges inside the screen area the watch [TS]

00:05:24   everything is designed with a black background and they even say like going [TS]

00:05:28   to edge please go ahead with all your stuff because it's not a big enough [TS]

00:05:31   screen you can afford margin and the bezel around it with the bozell around [TS]

00:05:36   it is wide enough that that isn't that is like a good aesthetic margin but that [TS]

00:05:42   illusion is a little bit weekend if you're able to see in real life where [TS]

00:05:47   the edges of the screen actually are inside that that bozell so it's it it is [TS]

00:05:52   ideal if you can't see ya there's two issues here with the air gap is like [TS]

00:05:57   maybe the image doesn't look like it's on the surface it looks like it's sunken [TS]

00:06:00   down and then independent of the air gap regardless of others landed you have can [TS]

00:06:05   I see the panel edges in the panel edges just have to do with differences in [TS]

00:06:09   their reflective nests of the material that the panel is made out of it and the [TS]

00:06:13   area that doesn't have a pad underneath it so those are both things they can [TS]

00:06:17   improve independently if everything is green is laminated maybe the kid you [TS]

00:06:21   know depending on the thickness of the material get more of getting the image [TS]

00:06:24   look like it's on the surface of the glass rather than deep down into the [TS]

00:06:28   west and then the albino not sure what they could do about that I guess get a [TS]

00:06:32   panel that is darker when light shines on enterprise put some material behind [TS]

00:06:37   all the glass so looks the same as you can see the edges but yeah they'd ethics [TS]

00:06:42   and if you look at all the pictures that Apple takes they're going for the idea [TS]

00:06:45   of this is just a magical curve blacktop thing and parts of it light up and you [TS]

00:06:50   need to know what the edges are and you shouldn't know that for example the you [TS]

00:06:54   know the eighth in the time is actually jammed up against the left edge of the [TS]

00:06:58   screen the top edge of the screen because you would never know that [TS]

00:07:00   because whereas the edge of the screen right and so that's that is a clever and [TS]

00:07:03   economical use of screen real estate but you really don't want to see the fact [TS]

00:07:08   that there are no markings because you can see it a lighter gray rectangle it [TS]

00:07:10   makes that a child up in the corner now look so hot now speaking of the watch we [TS]

00:07:15   should cover what we did or did not preorder on Friday so let's start with [TS]

00:07:23   you Marco did you wake up at three o'clock in the morning and if so are [TS]

00:07:28   registred whether or not you did did you order one or more watches I look up at [TS]

00:07:32   2:58 in the morning and I kept hitting refresh and the app which really just [TS]

00:07:38   means force quitting the app and relaunching at this is the Apple Store [TS]

00:07:41   app in iOS which is unless you launches it has really been like the way to do it [TS]

00:07:46   because whatever API the app is pulling for information seems to be much more [TS]

00:07:51   reliable or at least much simpler than the than the Apple Web Store and so the [TS]

00:07:56   app very rarely has any kind of reliability issues during his big floods [TS]

00:08:01   of pre-orders while the website regularly does so the app is real and [TS]

00:08:06   end the app you can you talk show you to pay which is awesome [TS]

00:08:09   they set up you can like pick what you want you can even market is a favorite [TS]

00:08:14   had a time do you like open up the appt go to your favorites hit with a hit add [TS]

00:08:17   to cart at checkout and you just thumbprint and it's done [TS]

00:08:21   and it's like the fastest pre-order process you can possibly so I definitely [TS]

00:08:26   recommend that approach for pre-ordering anyway I i did that and I immediately [TS]

00:08:29   that the store didn't come up for me until about 30 to 40 minutes after three [TS]

00:08:35   and and immediately as soon as I look the one I picked out which was the black [TS]

00:08:42   leather loop 42 with the steel watch was already four to six weeks late I really [TS]

00:08:47   want him to come immediately for development of reason the kind of half [TS]

00:08:50   do so rather than get a second watch which would be stupid I elected to [TS]

00:08:55   change my order to the only one of the steel ones that that was still showing [TS]

00:09:01   delivers in April 24th to me whatever like that first the first labor is not [TS]

00:09:05   the only one that the first delivery slot was the 42 Milanese loop so that [TS]

00:09:10   after trying them on and store later that day I changed my opinion slightly [TS]

00:09:15   of some of these things [TS]

00:09:16   glad to get the levee loop because I really don't like the level of a blog [TS]

00:09:19   post about all this stuff in fact both of us did cases so I won't be too far [TS]

00:09:23   into it suffice to say that it is not as soft as comfortable as community uses I [TS]

00:09:29   wanted so I went by I pre ordered separately for quote May delivery the [TS]

00:09:38   the two bands that I was most impressed by which were the link bracelet and the [TS]

00:09:43   classic buckle and then I will keep one or both of those when they arrive we'll [TS]

00:09:47   see you ordered a link bracelet separately to the tune of like 500 bucks [TS]

00:09:53   whatever it was I did yes I do what I love to do that none of the ones had [TS]

00:09:57   accepted Mr buckles is member I was talking about like what I what I really [TS]

00:10:00   wanted most was quick release attachment with the size being preset all the time [TS]

00:10:07   as I don't want to have to like nests with the link bracelet mess with the [TS]

00:10:10   band and like i I felt when I was trying on the Milanese loop in the store I was [TS]

00:10:16   constantly feeling like I would put it on open a little bit to lose sight of [TS]

00:10:20   that little bit too tight after constantly be adjusting that banned cuz [TS]

00:10:23   I know myself i know im like picky and a little bit obsessive about things like [TS]

00:10:28   that and so I [TS]

00:10:30   I know that not having it be exactly am I correct setting every single time [TS]

00:10:34   would drive me crazy on that topic we got some feedback about this I think it [TS]

00:10:38   was email but all my first question about all this is like how often do you [TS]

00:10:42   think you take this thing on the menu maybe I guess I guess I gotta wash [TS]

00:10:45   dishes to go take it off Washington has put it back on take it like a speed [TS]

00:10:48   contest is it like you have to get it on and off within three seconds or [TS]

00:10:52   something bad happens like you put it on the morning and taken off tonight that's [TS]

00:10:55   two times a day you can have whatever you know criteria you want your purchase [TS]

00:11:01   but that seems weird to me but the second thing is that a couple of [TS]

00:11:04   listeners brought up is the exact sizing thing your risk changes size based on [TS]

00:11:10   like how hot you are how much humidity there is how long the day has gone on [TS]

00:11:15   right and if you're that sensitive to a particular fit you may have to end up [TS]

00:11:18   adjusting it anyway and it's actually easier to readjust something like it on [TS]

00:11:22   his loop as you blow to his turn he had a go out into the cold or whatever then [TS]

00:11:28   it would be to try to adjust the link bracelet which is not like adjustable [TS]

00:11:31   with bare hands so it depends on how sensitive you are to this specific [TS]

00:11:36   adjustments but I always did like the the plain old whatever to the classic [TS]

00:11:40   buckled that has like a bunch of holes yet you gonna pick one hole that's going [TS]

00:11:43   to be the whole the use and because there is no possibility if I just means [TS]

00:11:47   at least I think I would sort of mentally accept the fact that I will be [TS]

00:11:51   fine adjusting this I got to pick whichever whole works best in this [TS]

00:11:54   probably gonna be one that are going to deal with both when it's cold and when [TS]

00:11:57   it's hot and when you know I'm arms are puffy and when they're not and it's [TS]

00:12:00   going to be all that's that's the whole thing goes in I guess you the same thing [TS]

00:12:04   with link bracelet just like well this is besides I just think bracelet too and [TS]

00:12:08   I'm not readjusting because the pain you need to any screwdrivers over the hell [TS]

00:12:11   you need no its buttons but yet so so so to go back to the person who challenged [TS]

00:12:17   us was doctor trained on Twitter our friend dr. drink on Dec said why am i [TS]

00:12:21   taking up a lot so much besides just once you know taking putting on the [TS]

00:12:25   morning of the night the answer to that is I don't know how often putting this [TS]

00:12:29   thing on and off I am because I I work at home and I'm and I'm helping out with [TS]

00:12:34   with our kid and everything I am very often like washing [TS]

00:12:38   hand-washing things getting wet in helping with the battle the stuff like [TS]

00:12:42   I'm constantly getting my hands wet and washing things and so i i think there's [TS]

00:12:47   a very good chance I'll be taking it off more than once a day but it's more that [TS]

00:12:52   I I haven't worn to watch since forever ago that for twenty years having watched [TS]

00:12:57   so I the any any annoyance of wearing a watch is gonna be amplified in my mind [TS]

00:13:05   because I'm not used to it so just just the process of putting on the morning [TS]

00:13:09   taking off tonight in putting charger all of those things are going to [TS]

00:13:13   slightly annoyed me for a while so I might my goal here was to maximize [TS]

00:13:17   comfort and minimize annoyance so that's why my reservation with the link [TS]

00:13:21   bracelet is that it is pretty heavy and at the very end when I was trying on it [TS]

00:13:26   I did get a pink star my hair and everybody says that always happens to [TS]

00:13:30   them so my guess is it's probably gonna be backward and arrive later and my [TS]

00:13:36   guess is that the classic book will arrive first i will like it so much I [TS]

00:13:39   will probably just cancel the order for the liberation yeah I mean I wanna watch [TS]

00:13:44   most of my life and we probably covered this last episode but suffice it to say [TS]

00:13:49   I went a few years when I first got my phone when I stopped wearing it and then [TS]

00:13:53   i dont no not long ago I started wearing a cheap watch again and the only time I [TS]

00:13:59   take my watch off during the day is if it's bath time with death if I'm washing [TS]

00:14:05   dishes it stays on if I'm washing my hands it stays on if I'm doing almost [TS]

00:14:10   anything except bath time or if I happen to go swimming Monday for some reason [TS]

00:14:17   that watched his on so I don't want to speak for you I mean I don't know if [TS]

00:14:22   maybe you're the kind of guy that liked takes everything out of his pockets the [TS]

00:14:25   moment arrives anywhere I don't remember you being that way but you could be and [TS]

00:14:29   maybe takes us watch off the mini you're standing still for more than a second [TS]

00:14:32   but for me I never take my watch off except I go to bed [TS]

00:14:38   writes John what did you order or did you not have one more thing related to [TS]

00:14:44   all the people telling stories about ordering at 3 a.m. which a lot of people [TS]

00:14:48   that I know we're following twitter did having heard them on podcasts and read [TS]

00:14:52   their tweets and seen their timelines I am very surprised by how many of them [TS]

00:14:57   said like Marco did I set my alarm for 257 258 and then woke up in order to [TS]

00:15:04   watch and I'm surprised by that because if I was gonna wake up in the middle of [TS]

00:15:09   the night to order something I would not want to put such a small margin like if [TS]

00:15:14   anything goes wrong you can't get on the wifi per second or the app launches slow [TS]

00:15:19   or if you're grabbing the tap their own thing why in the world would you cut it [TS]

00:15:25   so close I mean 255 sup mike is gonna kill you to like you wouldn't you want [TS]

00:15:31   it just amazes me that I'm assuming people read the real time they really [TS]

00:15:35   set their alarm for 258 and then just kinda like a rolled over and grab their [TS]

00:15:39   iPod I mean maybe it's a testament to how easy it is to order from the little [TS]

00:15:42   app thing but geez I would never cut it that close like it's not even work [TS]

00:15:45   because both would be like if I woke up at that time and like because of some [TS]

00:15:50   stupid tech thing didn't actually get the order until five minutes effort [TS]

00:15:55   crazy and everybody like I must be the weird one because everybody I've heard [TS]

00:15:58   set their alarm within like 10 minutes at 3 a.m. I think you're crazy i mean it [TS]

00:16:03   one of your NTP server updated for a while and you're off by the time you get [TS]

00:16:09   the iPod out people could have already bought it anyway [TS]

00:16:11   forgetting though is that the California in general and certainly Apple [TS]

00:16:16   pre-orders when if they ever been exactly on time there you never know why [TS]

00:16:20   why why risk it you win you're making yourself miserable waking up in the [TS]

00:16:23   middle of the night anyway why would you like to use these the type in specially [TS]

00:16:27   market now lives in New York not representing welfare you New York these [TS]

00:16:30   are the people who are not on time too thanks because they like well it only [TS]

00:16:33   takes 45 minutes to get from here to there you know yet if conditions are [TS]

00:16:37   perfect you can't leave yourself five minutes okay in my defense first of all [TS]

00:16:41   there's usually not a lot of contention for the wifi at my house at 3 a.m. you [TS]

00:16:46   never know what's gonna [TS]

00:16:47   happened what have you know what if you had to use cellular what if there was a [TS]

00:16:49   power outage in the middle of night what if it takes two seconds to switch to end [TS]

00:16:53   and so my rationale there is because I'm actually waking myself up for that I'm [TS]

00:16:58   not just staying awake for I'm waking up from sleep for this I want to be a week [TS]

00:17:02   for the shortest time possible because the longer you wait the harder to go [TS]

00:17:05   back to see the boys think they going to be able to watch out awfully fast and I [TS]

00:17:11   want to be awake for three minutes not five I was no I was seriously [TS]

00:17:15   considering just not waking up for it just waking up at like six or seven in [TS]

00:17:18   the morning rate for the you know for the day that that is also about Joyce [TS]

00:17:21   I'm just saying that the people who decided they were going to wake up in [TS]

00:17:23   middle of night why risk making that you know all for nothing [TS]

00:17:27   well because it's the reality is usually with these things like if you wake up in [TS]

00:17:31   middle of night in order the new iPhone when it comes out you don't really have [TS]

00:17:34   to do that like you can probably wake up at seven or eight in the morning and [TS]

00:17:38   order it then you'll probably still get from day one stock there so much stock [TS]

00:17:42   of most of these new products they really is that you know that you don't [TS]

00:17:46   really have to worry about that too much with this you know the risk was a little [TS]

00:17:50   bit higher because it's like well they're saying they're going to limited [TS]

00:17:53   stock it is a brand new kind of thing not just a brand new generation of [TS]

00:17:56   something so we will have very few of them and that proved to be true but the [TS]

00:18:01   risk of missing it by a minute is really not that high end and by the way like [TS]

00:18:06   you know here it came up at like 1030 to order for some people that I had I read [TS]

00:18:10   I was seeing seeing response on Twitter like switching back with you once it [TS]

00:18:14   didn't go for a while like Twitter check it like five seconds ago back to the to [TS]

00:18:19   the apt try again and people had already put in their orders when my appt was [TS]

00:18:24   still launching clean and then saying not available so there is actually the [TS]

00:18:27   whole delays in various I assume it's like a CDN propagation redundancy should [TS]

00:18:33   be checking on your computer [TS]

00:18:34   and also maybe through a VPN to something else you get it if it's like [TS]

00:18:40   to see tickets back when that was lottery serve that was the latest brush [TS]

00:18:44   system before talked about but [TS]

00:18:46   back during that you know that it made more sense because the risk is higher [TS]

00:18:50   you knew that was gonna sell out in very very very short time whereas with with [TS]

00:18:54   new product launches it usually is not that severe if you're a minute after [TS]

00:18:58   everybody else anyway I didn't wake up in the middle of night I didn't think [TS]

00:19:02   more about watches [TS]

00:19:04   think about getting the store to look at them but I have done neither of those [TS]

00:19:07   things and now you have until June to think about it yet from the sound like [TS]

00:19:12   you know if you didn't order me the then although I may have no I don't know I [TS]

00:19:17   haven't made a decision about the watch is that sometimes I think I should just [TS]

00:19:21   definitely get like a really fancy among those who the hell cares and I think [TS]

00:19:24   what are you doing you can buy any two things you're never going to use it so [TS]

00:19:27   far that has resulted in no action on my part [TS]

00:19:31   Casey I talked about this at length on analog which won't be out until this [TS]

00:19:37   coming Sunday and by the time we get this up so I doubt it'll probably be [TS]

00:19:41   Friday so they'll be a little lag but the short short version ears I was in [TS]

00:19:44   Dec I was going to give a talk actually the opening keynote at home PC and [TS]

00:19:50   because of that I knew I shouldn't be waking up at three in the morning so I [TS]

00:19:54   woke up at about seven actually couple minutes before my alarm and thought oh [TS]

00:19:57   let me look at Twitter and see how it went and saw that there were like three [TS]

00:20:00   than 50 miss tweets done so I immediately scroll to the top and said [TS]

00:20:04   the hell with that then I open the Apple Store app on my phone and saw oh my god [TS]

00:20:08   they're shipping in June I must have one I must order it now I had tremendous [TS]

00:20:14   fear of missing out as mike pointed out to me I believe it's pronounced [TS]

00:20:18   I think you're thinking of Homo but when I'm with you so in any case I what I [TS]

00:20:24   ended up doing was ordering a I always get get it wrong is it space race border [TS]

00:20:30   space black sport spacecraft the geek watch yet they keep watch for Tuesday's [TS]

00:20:34   grey sport with black sport band that's exactly it so that is what I ordered in [TS]

00:20:39   it is not due in until June sometime [TS]

00:20:42   and I wrote as Marco had alluded to i wrote a blog post about this I'm still [TS]

00:20:47   not sure how I feel about all of it obviously I ordered one so I feel [TS]

00:20:51   strongly enough that either I'm scared of missing out or that it might be good [TS]

00:20:55   that I that I placed the order but I don't know I keep going back and forth [TS]

00:21:01   kind of language on it said this should probably just get cancelled I probably [TS]

00:21:07   shouldn't even get this and then five minutes later [TS]

00:21:10   actually I think this might be fairly awesome and I start thinking about all [TS]

00:21:15   the cool things I can do with it but in the end I figure I'll just tell just let [TS]

00:21:20   it go and I'll receive the watch in June probably after WWDC so I look at all of [TS]

00:21:26   you with your cool kid watches now be looking at my Timex weekender crying but [TS]

00:21:31   yes so I'll get the watch and then I'll use it for a week week and a half and if [TS]

00:21:35   I like it sweet then I'm glad I ordered and if I don't like it no worries I'll [TS]

00:21:39   return it and life goes on I think the way he did it so so before it did your [TS]

00:21:44   opinion change after you saw it he did to try an appointment is you want to see [TS]

00:21:48   them later in person did your opinion of of any of these choices change that my [TS]

00:21:53   opinion about watch bands changed dramatically and i no longer lost nearly [TS]

00:21:58   as much over what steven hack it dubbed the Darth Vader watch which is the the [TS]

00:22:02   black like the black link when I went to two different Ryan appointments I [TS]

00:22:07   crashed at john houseman and staff house mins try an appointment [TS]

00:22:11   their friends of mine and and markets as well that live up in Dec and so I I [TS]

00:22:16   crash there trying employment over lunch Friday and I didn't try on the watch but [TS]

00:22:22   I got to like you know feel the different bands just you know on the [TS]

00:22:25   little Matt and I got to play with the demo unit that houses an acrylic and I [TS]

00:22:30   left that thinking my goodness this is really bad because the demo unit I used [TS]

00:22:36   was really non-responsive really really laggy I did not care for it all [TS]

00:22:42   fast forward a couple of days and I went myself and it a try on on Sunday and I [TS]

00:22:49   decided in short that I really do like the black sport [TS]

00:22:53   it feels a lot better than I expected although I agree with you Marco I'm a [TS]

00:22:56   little scared about this witness factor I didn't really care for the link [TS]

00:23:02   bracelet as much as I thought I would but I think that's in large part because [TS]

00:23:06   the particular link bracelet that they had four tryin was like 3 feet too big [TS]

00:23:12   for my favoritest and read your people wouldn't adjust it right and well I [TS]

00:23:17   kinda indeed oh these are really easy to change right now hoping the gentleman [TS]

00:23:22   would be like well yes let me show you but he wanted none of it will officially [TS]

00:23:26   they're they're training tells them they are not allowed to do to take out links [TS]

00:23:30   for for sizing many of the employees are either unaware of that or are ignoring [TS]

00:23:36   that and and doing anyway which I i don't i don't see why they shouldn't be [TS]

00:23:41   allowed to do that [TS]

00:23:42   like it makes a big difference when you're wearing it whether it's fit to [TS]

00:23:46   you or not I can see why don't you see whether or not they don't want to do [TS]

00:23:49   that [TS]

00:23:50   like stealing links or something little pieces they'll get lost [TS]

00:23:53   yeah totally it's under pretty good security like that all they don't have [TS]

00:23:57   to watch is out of the time and there's lotsa watching over you no pun intended [TS]

00:24:01   and and there's guards you are somebody who's like really good at slide a hand [TS]

00:24:06   could probably get one but like it's not you're not trying to steal them this [TS]

00:24:09   like the oldest fall on the ground up on someone's sand all in california and [TS]

00:24:14   I'll just walk out with some scattered on a table and they won't get all the [TS]

00:24:18   pieces up again like those constantly be losing pieces in practice and i've seen [TS]

00:24:24   going on to one store but because of various iPhone and laptop service [TS]

00:24:28   appointments I had actually been there three times since the watch it and I've [TS]

00:24:33   never been crowded now granted I go who during non-peak times because going [TS]

00:24:37   during peak times stupid but [TS]

00:24:39   its it is not like some mad rush for the watch tables yeah yeah I will say that [TS]

00:24:45   the to try and appointments that I went to one again that I was not the star of [TS]

00:24:49   the show if you will and the other one I was both times in two different Apple [TS]

00:24:53   stores couple hours apart in terms of driving distance [TS]

00:24:57   the people that were doing the Tri on the employees were super nice super [TS]

00:25:01   patient super helpful really wanted to impress upon us that these are really [TS]

00:25:09   nice devices and they were willing to take as much time as we wanted in order [TS]

00:25:14   to convince us that we wanted to buy that sounds shady but in other words [TS]

00:25:17   like they they they just wanted us to be happy with our trial experience it was [TS]

00:25:21   really nice CSO China mine I'd like the black leather band alot I had heard [TS]

00:25:28   rumblings that the other whether I'm sorry not leather sport I'd heard [TS]

00:25:32   rumblings of the other sports fans felt different in so I asked to feel the [TS]

00:25:35   white one and it is very different and I far prefer the black I didn't really [TS]

00:25:39   care for link bracelet because was too big and too heavy [TS]

00:25:42   which was very surprising to me because I've had link bracelet watches in the [TS]

00:25:45   past not like them and I actually really really like the Milanese however I do [TS]

00:25:51   understand where you're coming from Marco because my inclination was to put [TS]

00:25:55   it on and leave it a little bit lose probably too loose for the heart rate [TS]

00:25:59   sensor and so I wonder if living with it would actually be more frustrating than [TS]

00:26:05   I think it would be because I have to tighten it often so I can see where [TS]

00:26:09   you're coming from Marco on that one that it may even though I I think it's [TS]

00:26:13   my favorite sitting here now living with it I may change my tune although I have [TS]

00:26:16   not ordered one sitting here now there's no way I'm going to have a Milanese [TS]

00:26:20   because I haven't ordered it don't plan to but we'll see what happens [TS]

00:26:24   so our first bunch of this week is automatic your smart driving assistant [TS]

00:26:29   on your smartphone [TS]

00:26:30   automatic dot com slash ATP automatic is a little dongle that plugs into the obd2 [TS]

00:26:36   port on your vehicle this is a full diagnostic port usually in the driver's [TS]

00:26:41   footwell area and this is where the garages and stuff will plug in their [TS]

00:26:45   computer things to see the error code your car's reporting to them and figure [TS]

00:26:49   out various parameters you know if you're going to test you can figure out [TS]

00:26:52   like gas efficient use of it that way anyway [TS]

00:26:55   automatic connect this to a smartphone app into intelligence software that they [TS]

00:26:59   wrote so they are able to use the power of software to read this data and do [TS]

00:27:04   cool stuff with it so they can also read your fuel efficiency they can tell you [TS]

00:27:08   how fast you're going what how much using the accelerator how much gas [TS]

00:27:12   you're burning they can tell by combining it with the phone's GPS where [TS]

00:27:17   you are what you know what kind of routes you take they can tell you where [TS]

00:27:21   you parked your car even because they know that this is a combined in there [TS]

00:27:24   and it gives you real-time feedback right as you're driving that can really [TS]

00:27:29   save you hundreds of dollars a year I guess if you want to you can you can [TS]

00:27:32   have it [TS]

00:27:33   make make a subtle sound tell you like oh you're accelerating too hard to meet [TS]

00:27:37   your fuel efficiency goal this week or whatever it's really great stuff it [TS]

00:27:41   really does combine the intelligence software with you know all the all the [TS]

00:27:45   amazing data to your vehicle has that normally don't really have any insight [TS]

00:27:49   into you can only access it of course it can do the basics like it can tell you [TS]

00:27:54   if your car has the check engine light on or any kind of reporting it can tell [TS]

00:27:58   you what it is sometimes you can even clear those errors right from your app [TS]

00:28:02   on your phone you can even call emergency services for you automatically [TS]

00:28:07   in a serious crash so if you are unable or yours too slowly to your phone after [TS]

00:28:12   crash that you can have it called for you this is a pretty serious stuff [TS]

00:28:15   pretty awesome they also have a whole API and they have integration with ifttt [TS]

00:28:22   so that you can do things like for instance you can say as you head home [TS]

00:28:27   from work automatically connect to my nest thermostat and turn the heat on or [TS]

00:28:31   turn the air conditioning on so that by the time you get home it's nice and cool [TS]

00:28:33   and warm in your house is all sorts of stuff you and you can integrate [TS]

00:28:37   throughout et [TS]

00:28:38   et or using their API directly it's really pretty great you can download [TS]

00:28:43   your driving data you can download your history your metrics all these things [TS]

00:28:46   that you are collecting through the sport you can you can even subscribe to [TS]

00:28:51   a TI events for things like when you start and stop the car if the check [TS]

00:28:56   engine light comes on for any reason really really great stuff is all [TS]

00:29:00   available for both iOS and Android they are equal opportunity at makers iOS and [TS]

00:29:06   Android and all this is available on match.com / ATP now normally this is a [TS]

00:29:13   hundred bucks and there is no subscription fee on this there's no [TS]

00:29:16   monthly cost now we have a special offer for 20% off that base price so it's just [TS]

00:29:22   80 bucks if you order through our link automatic dot com slash ATP that gives [TS]

00:29:26   you a bucks for the price free shipping in two business days and a 45 day return [TS]

00:29:32   policy so just try it out there is no risk 45 day return policy [TS]

00:29:36   try it out 80 bucks no monthly fees by up front and that's it you don't have to [TS]

00:29:41   pay them per month [TS]

00:29:42   automatic dot com slash ATP thanks a lot to automatic response on our show once [TS]

00:29:46   again has been longtime sponsors of ours even even mention them back in the [TS]

00:29:50   neutral days they so pretty cool thanks a lot to automatic automatic dot com [TS]

00:29:57   slash ATP excellent field we have to sort of kind of follow the sponsor break [TS]

00:30:04   with a sponsor break and this sponsor break is for us he can guess what time [TS]

00:30:11   it is its WBC time and guess what that means kids it means it's t-shirt time [TS]

00:30:17   that means we have our act together early this year [TS]

00:30:20   relatively early we're not scrambling at the last second it's a miracle she [TS]

00:30:25   prepared a short introduction to play for you right now [TS]

00:30:29   from the beginning was driven ATP clothing is a compulsion to take [TS]

00:30:35   incredible t-shirts and make them accessible relevant and ultimately [TS]

00:30:40   person we conceived designed and developed a range of t-shirts so [TS]

00:30:46   personal that you can actually wear them [TS]

00:30:49   ATP shirt is a singular product with a design that connects with the wearer has [TS]

00:30:56   an intimate level to embrace individuality was also referencing [TS]

00:31:00   traditional shirts but capillary we freeze it three distinct elections for [TS]

00:31:07   ATP shirt we start with a blend of 35 yrs known for their softness and [TS]

00:31:12   durability cotton is both strong and beautiful and has long been used to make [TS]

00:31:18   find t-shirts we combine it with polyester and rayon for increased [TS]

00:31:23   resilience and innovative draping to make the softest most comfortable [TS]

00:31:28   t-shirts in the world [TS]

00:31:30   ATP shirt sport is breathable high-performance activewear and yet it's [TS]

00:31:37   incredibly light and durable for maximum [TS]

00:31:40   ETP shirt edition is uniquely luxurious [TS]

00:31:47   with exquisite gold colored foil that textile specialists have developed be [TS]

00:31:51   much thinner and softer than real 18 [TS]

00:31:57   we designed a t-shirt as a whole range of t-shirts enabling uncompromising [TS]

00:32:03   individuality and elegance we're now at a compelling beginning actually [TS]

00:32:09   designing t-shirts to be rude and to be truly person [TS]

00:32:16   tried so hard to compose myself thank you john thank you Matt Alexander for [TS]

00:32:26   stepping in and being the token britt for that because we couldn't take it any [TS]

00:32:31   other way [TS]

00:32:32   the only Brit you know right well one of two it's Matt Mike it's the MDM named [TS]

00:32:40   Brits and mad Matt told me he didn't want anything for this however I have to [TS]

00:32:44   thank his wonderful business need addition dot com that the need to [TS]

00:32:49   respond just before four giving up his time to let him do this for me even [TS]

00:32:54   though he's the boss but yeah I so so for more information on our certs go to [TS]

00:33:01   ATP . FM / shirt to see the full collection of ATP shirt we have 33 sub [TS]

00:33:10   collections I don't know what are they called [TS]

00:33:12   can't say editions ATV sharon has three collections that we've curated exactly [TS]

00:33:18   exactly orders are now live there's no pre-order wait you know we want to do in [TS]

00:33:23   six months there now live it's only here for a brief time do that sits the T [TS]

00:33:28   spring model so you got to you know pre-order a bunch and they put them all [TS]

00:33:31   at once and that's it so if you want one you gotta hurry up its about 10 days or [TS]

00:33:37   something like that [TS]

00:33:38   21 days oh good well still hurry up cuz you know people are listening to this [TS]

00:33:43   immediately when I'm really really sad and if you are thank you but check it [TS]

00:33:47   out [TS]

00:33:47   ATP . FM / shirt you don't wake up at 3 a.m. to order you can order it right now [TS]

00:33:52   and yeah so I'm so happy this happened I'm so happy this happen to be clear in [TS]

00:33:59   case you are in a position maybe you're driving and you're not able to look at [TS]

00:34:02   the website we really genuinely do have three different than we have three [TS]

00:34:07   collections we have the eighty patients port which is printed on kind of sort of [TS]

00:34:12   Under Armour it's that what is this high-performance haynes cool dry active [TS]

00:34:16   where we have the ATP shirt which is what is its tri-blend in cotton and then [TS]

00:34:23   we have the ATP shirt addition Marco that this is an especially wonderful [TS]

00:34:27   touch with us the ATP sure to do [TS]

00:34:30   the addition actually has gold colored foil as the bank I don't have this works [TS]

00:34:37   at only about clothing but apparently this is a thing that is actually fairly [TS]

00:34:40   common these days there's actually like a gold colored foil as the print so that [TS]

00:34:46   we have equal edition of our shirt and does not cost $10,000 though it is not [TS]

00:34:55   although it relatively speaking in mind it's going to be don't tell people just [TS]

00:35:00   a t-shirt starts at $20 will tell you in six months with the prices are kinda [TS]

00:35:05   team terrible I'm not sure sport is $20 ATP shirt is $25 and four different [TS]

00:35:15   colors and a tshirt addition start at $50 and also ends at $50 unlike Apple we [TS]

00:35:22   will tell you the product mix you'll be able to tell yourself that is at a bar [TS]

00:35:26   charts and every single page you can we have we have literally no idea which [TS]

00:35:30   church the Taylor gonna buy everyone that by 2008 fine go ahead right so we [TS]

00:35:34   have no idea what the mix is gonna be but you guys will tell us go out there [TS]

00:35:38   and buy some shirts and then you can look at the little comparison bar charts [TS]

00:35:42   and you'll see it everybody buying the sport like the epilogue you don't have [TS]

00:35:46   to come at the same time roughly 200 by one to get it sooner but everybody but [TS]

00:35:51   the shirt yet we're kind of the part of the joke is by using the same ridiculous [TS]

00:35:57   product naming that Apple did but now we're suffering for it because we can't [TS]

00:36:00   even talk about [TS]

00:36:03   shirt or the e-edition shirt anyway go to the page as pictures click on the [TS]

00:36:10   menu on by his men's and women's style make sure you don't accidentally by a [TS]

00:36:15   men's shirt when you want to women's the vice versa because the previews kind of [TS]

00:36:19   the same particularly the sport shirt mens and blue and the woman's in white [TS]

00:36:24   matt's it there's no men's white snow women's blue and they do become similar [TS]

00:36:28   so [TS]

00:36:28   and the other shirts and black and grey make sure you're buying the one you [TS]

00:36:34   wanna get this is something different i genuinely so happy that this came [TS]

00:36:38   together we may sell five shirts and I'm still going to be thrilled that this all [TS]

00:36:43   happened yet none of us have any ideas for saying this like how many additions [TS]

00:36:46   were gonna say we have no clue I I think we're gonna sell a lot I'm trying to buy [TS]

00:36:51   one of each like I tend to buy my own shirts even though I don't wear them to [TS]

00:36:54   just have them which is why I'm the proud owner of every color of the [TS]

00:36:57   hypocritical share as we were some someday in pristine condition that's [TS]

00:37:00   right but I can't buy this many shirts I don't know what we're going to get we've [TS]

00:37:04   sold a total of six editions already three the black market I haven't ordered [TS]

00:37:09   mine yet but I know I am going to order one of you didn't have to get one for my [TS]

00:37:13   wife of course I get the men's four me at end and of course and we had to tell [TS]

00:37:17   people in in the tradition of some of the product before about recently the [TS]

00:37:23   additions are the only difference really is this the colors available and the [TS]

00:37:27   gold foil print yeah they're all the same CBO yet just as fast they all have [TS]

00:37:33   have the same Bluetooth connectivity which is none of our work yet say many [TS]

00:37:38   space same artwork different colors of the artwork so different from them to [TS]

00:37:43   the different shapes shirts I mean there's no bands but you are the band [TS]

00:37:47   yes the band your leather loop winding their way through the shirt and you and [TS]

00:37:53   you come in all different colors and styles and your special this is so [TS]

00:37:56   amazing I can't believe I'm just glad we did it first [TS]

00:38:04   yeah I was afraid that this is an hour in T-shirts season four for podcasters [TS]

00:38:09   and eat things because it's Nitin near to BDC time and so this is what [TS]

00:38:13   everyone's making their shirts so we can segue ready to WWC where we hope to see [TS]

00:38:18   these shirts because they're shipping what may 6 there something WWDC starts [TS]

00:38:24   June 8th so there should be plenty of time for you to get your shirts and [TS]

00:38:27   where the WEC where [TS]

00:38:30   we hope to see you right guys well I'll be there ok so let's get this out of the [TS]

00:38:36   way of right up front whether or not you receive a ticket Marco you've just said [TS]

00:38:40   you are going [TS]

00:38:42   yes I have already booked a non-refundable plane ticket and hotel so [TS]

00:38:45   I i'm there regardless I i [TS]

00:38:48   either so much good stuff like now there's all kinds and I saw Jesse charge [TS]

00:38:53   doing a design conference so there's there's everyone's there in like smaller [TS]

00:38:58   gatherings people who get together and watch the live stream watch the keynote [TS]

00:39:01   sessions and everything so there's there's a bunch of good stuff going on I [TS]

00:39:05   i dont hope I don't get a ticket but if I don't get a ticket I'm kind of looking [TS]

00:39:11   forward to being forced to go explore more of these things like all calm [TS]

00:39:17   because there's a lot of good stuff going on out there I completely agree I [TS]

00:39:23   am also going I have booked my return flight although coincidentally I have [TS]

00:39:29   not yet booked my outgoing flight because I'm trying to work out there and [TS]

00:39:32   whether or not she endured while I guess not or she had Declan are going to come [TS]

00:39:37   as well as leaving home is fine he's old enough now he's five and a half months [TS]

00:39:41   will be fine we'll see what happens but I am going to be going for the week I'll [TS]

00:39:47   be flying back Friday afternoon which we should also talk about a moment John [TS]

00:39:51   what is your agenda I like both of you entered into the ticket lottery if I do [TS]

00:39:58   not get a ticket [TS]

00:40:00   probably won't be going I have no reservations but they're cancellable I [TS]

00:40:04   have not booked a plane flight yet I'm just hoping I mean I have to wait and [TS]

00:40:09   see and decide them right now I don't know like the whole reason I would be [TS]

00:40:13   going to go to WWC I don't have absolute on developing [TS]

00:40:19   don't think I can justify going out there for a whole week for nothing but [TS]

00:40:24   decide when I find out what the result of lotteries but unlike the two of you [TS]

00:40:28   I'm not committing to going at this point now would it affect your decision [TS]

00:40:33   if we asked all of the Internet to shame you and tweet at you and say you should [TS]

00:40:37   go and the internet not gonna be there anywhere on the internet could be home [TS]

00:40:45   the same as me watching the live streams of the session sessions some sessions [TS]

00:40:50   would you if you don't go would you actually watch the live streams or would [TS]

00:40:54   you just treat it like a normal work week and and just kind of ignored say [TS]

00:40:57   all watch them later in the never watched the fact that their lives not [TS]

00:41:00   the lively last year wasn't it like you they had the streams basically that [TS]

00:41:04   night or the next day or like there was a one day leg that's fine like that's [TS]

00:41:07   what I would do without home from work and you know put the kids to bed and [TS]

00:41:10   watch the WOD C-sections you know I got a pair that I want to see them live live [TS]

00:41:15   except maybe I would take a day off to see keynote state of the union life but [TS]

00:41:18   you know you alright let's talk about the ticketing system and Marco you had [TS]

00:41:24   said you want you had some things to say so I'll just kick it over to you yeah I [TS]

00:41:28   thought so so last year was the first year of the lottery right last year I [TS]

00:41:32   believe you are correct I believe it was last year right so so basically before [TS]

00:41:37   the system was just to show up and buy tickets just like ordering a phone and [TS]

00:41:41   when they run out they run out and after after a couple years of that happening [TS]

00:41:45   like crazily quickly they they switched to a lottery system where you have a few [TS]

00:41:51   days window to go and say consider me for a ticket and you see their hat in [TS]

00:41:56   the ring and then and what they did last year was they would email you after a [TS]

00:42:01   few days after submissions are cut off and if you died in eighty million say [TS]

00:42:05   hey here's a link you can buy the ticket within 24 hours or whatever [TS]

00:42:08   overall was a very good system the only relief flaw in that is that allowed [TS]

00:42:14   people to to duplicate sign up so if you had more than one developer account [TS]

00:42:19   which many people do especially consultants or people who look at who [TS]

00:42:22   work full time and do that on side projects or whatever [TS]

00:42:26   exactly what he loved multiple developer accounts and so that allows you to sign [TS]

00:42:31   up it was like it was stupid not to use you should use multiple counts to get to [TS]

00:42:36   increase your chances last year [TS]

00:42:37   here and and so did also that allowed people to take up slots in the system [TS]

00:42:43   who maybe weren't that serious we were in need didn't really want to go that [TS]

00:42:47   well I don't really wanna go that badly but if I get a ticket then I'll go right [TS]

00:42:51   this year and last year somewhere I mention that they should do it this way [TS]

00:42:58   and and this year they they changed it so that this year in order to be [TS]

00:43:03   considered for a ticket you had to put your credit card and basically place an [TS]

00:43:07   order and they if they choose you they're going to charge your credit card [TS]

00:43:12   and non-refundable so if you sign multiple developer accounts there's a [TS]

00:43:16   chance that more than one of them will win the lottery and you'll just be [TS]

00:43:21   charged will be out $600 like it out and take a non-transferable and everything [TS]

00:43:27   and and in the past that's been you know missus to whether you could actually [TS]

00:43:30   transfer them or not but they're they're pretty serious about this time so we [TS]

00:43:34   don't know if you can actually easily transferred to look at ticket if you get [TS]

00:43:37   one from different accounts so really it's like this time just pretty much [TS]

00:43:41   there's very little reason to sign up multiple accounts or to sign up if [TS]

00:43:46   you're not really that serious about it because you know if you quote win the [TS]

00:43:50   lottery and they and they picked you you literally just get charged and that's it [TS]

00:43:54   there's no more there's no recourse how many people were aware of that because I [TS]

00:43:58   certainly wasn't I went through the whole process as always I didn't I did [TS]

00:44:02   one entry added one and she lasted well into this year I don't have multiple [TS]

00:44:05   accounts that are available to buy from I think so but I did not notice any like [TS]

00:44:09   I did you read the fine print like I'm sure that was in there somewhere but I'm [TS]

00:44:12   just like click click click click click Done same here I imagine a lot of people [TS]

00:44:16   are going to be unpleasantly surprised when they get charged $1,600 three times [TS]

00:44:20   that of the 10 when they go to cancel alright I won the lottery three times [TS]

00:44:24   just gotta cancel it to me like you could always do a chargeback in the [TS]

00:44:28   credit card company I'm sure there are ways out of this but it's I don't think [TS]

00:44:32   that was expressed in the UI in a way that made people aware that I think [TS]

00:44:36   after the fact now we're all we're all reading each others blog post from [TS]

00:44:39   people who did read the fine print right there with you john i registered on my [TS]

00:44:46   personal account immediately went and registered [TS]

00:44:49   work account and then like three hours later from the show underscore David [TS]

00:44:52   Smith said to me yeah man that sucks about the Institute charging and I was [TS]

00:44:56   there I my words not his wife so yeah they're gonna charge instantly if you [TS]

00:45:00   win oh and so I immediately backed off I forget which one but I picked off and I [TS]

00:45:05   think withdraw their withdrew is the term they used one of the two pats I [TS]

00:45:11   threw in the ring so I think it makes sense I think this makes perfect sense [TS]

00:45:16   from Apple's perspective in that they don't want someone to put in two or five [TS]

00:45:22   or ten and trees and if you could potentially win every single one you're [TS]

00:45:27   not likely to do that like you did last year but what I wonder is she john's [TS]

00:45:33   point it wasn't really obvious that was the case and even if you were like a [TS]

00:45:39   screw it there's no way i win [TS]

00:45:40   and you put in two or three or four entries and then what if all four of [TS]

00:45:44   them let's say win what are you gonna do I mean if you can't transfer them or if [TS]

00:45:49   Europe's solo person and you have no one to transfer them to even if you wanted [TS]

00:45:52   to what do you do with a really good to have four empty slots at WTC like when [TS]

00:45:57   push comes to shove do you really think Apple's gonna be like well tough new DS [TS]

00:46:00   well I mean we had an email question asked about this but and of course the [TS]

00:46:04   past years don't don't have necessarily have any bearing on the current year but [TS]

00:46:08   the general process has been for a few years that I've got is that you go and [TS]

00:46:12   pick up your badge and you have to show them idea whatever prove that you are [TS]

00:46:15   who you are in some way and that's the only time they ever connect a person to [TS]

00:46:22   a bad so if you bought four of the money for personal accounts you could go and [TS]

00:46:26   pick up one bad go out go and pick up your second bed go out and pick up their [TS]

00:46:30   beds go out of bed to go out and now you have for WEC bet is that you could [TS]

00:46:35   distribute here for our co-workers or friends and for the rest of the [TS]

00:46:38   conference ever in just looking to see that you have a bad they're not going to [TS]

00:46:42   say this page says John Doerr you john doe prove the year john doe that never [TS]

00:46:46   happens now that's not to say that might not happen if you go thinking that you [TS]

00:46:50   will never be checked and you are suddenly checked bummer for you right [TS]

00:46:54   security changes every year but in the past what I just described has been [TS]

00:46:58   possible so [TS]

00:46:59   if someone did actually win the lottery four times they could conceivably still [TS]

00:47:05   get four passes and distribute them to other people [TS]

00:47:07   the other possibility is that you entered four times but you didn't read [TS]

00:47:10   the print that was there too said you were gonna be charged immediately and [TS]

00:47:14   you still only 11 you got the you lucked out you got the advantage of having four [TS]

00:47:19   entries when other people we had one entry and paid off for you because you [TS]

00:47:22   lost your time 21 ones so now you got one ticket and you still kind of did the [TS]

00:47:26   same thing that that market was complaining about from last year the [TS]

00:47:29   people you know sort of just bought a whole bunch and use a shotgun approach [TS]

00:47:33   and cross the fingers the system of charging immediately will probably work [TS]

00:47:38   better next year when everybody knows that it's a thing but this year it only [TS]

00:47:42   worked as well as people's attention during the purchase process to notice [TS]

00:47:47   that text there like and I do not doubt the text was there but just like your [TS]

00:47:53   condition just click click click click click like I didn't read it I didn't [TS]

00:47:55   notice it you know I just assumed that it would if I saw anything to that [TS]

00:47:59   effect it would seem like they're just gonna do an offer on the car but not [TS]

00:48:02   going to settle and that's just what everybody does on purchases to make sure [TS]

00:48:06   it's legitimate cards like that right [TS]

00:48:08   it never occurred to me that would be like non-refundable an unrealistic like [TS]

00:48:13   that I don't think it is non-refundable could always probably dispute about the [TS]

00:48:16   credit card company or whatever in get the charge reversed yeah chargeback it [TS]

00:48:21   is very possible to do to fix it but that's kind of a crappy things do like [TS]

00:48:26   this is a pretty bad reason to to charge if you end up having to do and I think I [TS]

00:48:32   think this is an improvement over last year I just think that the communication [TS]

00:48:36   about this improvement should have been more in-your-face next year I think it [TS]

00:48:41   will be more socialized amongst all the people who care enough to to enter the [TS]

00:48:45   lottery that it will be a better deterrent but this year seems like it'll [TS]

00:48:48   probably shakeout similarly to last year in terms of like how many people put in [TS]

00:48:52   multiple injuries and stuff I don't know we'll see anyone who really pays [TS]

00:48:57   attention to this sort of thing is likely to have only put in one entry [TS]

00:49:02   like I said I put into and just like you john I just clicked immediately threw [TS]

00:49:06   everything I think in no small part because I'm so trained and conditions [TS]

00:49:10   from earlier years when it was a [TS]

00:49:11   mad dash and even though conceptually I understand it's a lottery in the time [TS]

00:49:16   doesn't matter I'm still conditions and because of that I don't really read [TS]

00:49:21   anything but anyone who is paying any attention at all or is friends with [TS]

00:49:26   people who pay attention like I am is gonna have heard about this I don't [TS]

00:49:30   think they'll be that many that double-dip but I am curious to see how [TS]

00:49:34   it handles I just love the for the first time ever I paid attention to something [TS]

00:49:38   and read something that you guys didn't cause I during the during the process of [TS]

00:49:44   reserving nice my first spotted reservist I can run during the president [TS]

00:49:48   reserving my first spot I immediately got that impression and immediately [TS]

00:49:53   notice the cheese and they were very I thought they were very clear about it if [TS]

00:49:57   you don't have an eye towards multiple like I was never gonna buy multiple have [TS]

00:50:01   no way to buy multiples you know if they're coming to Texas not relevant to [TS]

00:50:06   me but if like you you are planning to go through a new window click the link [TS]

00:50:09   and then go through a second window click click click I imagine what you [TS]

00:50:12   were looking for some kind of provision that says if you get the same person at [TS]

00:50:15   Dendera lottery two times all their injuries have been notified or something [TS]

00:50:18   like that [TS]

00:50:19   like that's what you should basically be on the lookout for what motivates you to [TS]

00:50:23   read all the texts and then actually read and there is actually like a rule [TS]

00:50:26   in Davis says like one person basically and and you know who knows how they're [TS]

00:50:30   going to force it obviously this if you're if you're playing like you know [TS]

00:50:35   nicely by the rules you wouldn't enter more than one time in a system like this [TS]

00:50:39   it doesn't sound too kind of thing we're like if you at if all your accounts have [TS]

00:50:44   your name on them so you're trying to pick up like two of two bags with the [TS]

00:50:48   same name on them you're gonna chat earlier when you go into your badge its [TS]

00:50:54   order by lastname so you probably see the exact same person giving your badge [TS]

00:50:58   inciting you win it is by Apple idea ultimately so like they may soon be like [TS]

00:51:03   oh this to people what if you have two people who actually have the same name [TS]

00:51:05   of course they have two different Apple IDs they would have too bad just the [TS]

00:51:08   both a John Doe on them right and they would say John Doe which John Doe are [TS]

00:51:12   you i'm john doe that idea whatever I did say you just have to keep going [TS]

00:51:15   back and picking up more john doe bad but you can also just a different names [TS]

00:51:18   on your Apple IDs for your multiple accounts yeah that's true but either way [TS]

00:51:22   it's now in order to get multiple to have multiple chances of getting tickets [TS]

00:51:28   you have to jump through a lot of hoops now and possibly do you do some pretty [TS]

00:51:31   crappy things and so it's probably not worth it I i I think and I hope this [TS]

00:51:37   would probably deter most people from doing that but we will see [TS]

00:51:42   does it it would be more fair the system if people didn't do that but the way it [TS]

00:51:46   was last year you can't blame people for doing so easy to the downside so I think [TS]

00:51:51   this is this is probably a move for the better it is it is you need to see like [TS]

00:51:56   you know how it shakes out as people who didn't read the text get double choc [TS]

00:52:00   yeah very curious to see how this goes [TS]

00:52:04   and i genuinely wish the two of you guys the best of luck I really hope that I [TS]

00:52:09   get in but I hope that you guys get in but we'll see what happens in and it [TS]

00:52:14   sounds like no matter what Marco I'll be seeing you out there and hopefully we'll [TS]

00:52:17   be able to guilt John into it between now and the two you don't want to go to [TS]

00:52:21   the session so I think you should just for go take its entire life I didn't see [TS]

00:52:25   that you're just like I'm gonna go to all combine to be hanging out of bars [TS]

00:52:28   expand my horizons know that the reason I've never gone to all is because I keep [TS]

00:52:35   getting tickets I know that if I have a ticket to WTC I'm going to every session [TS]

00:52:41   like I always do I might miss like one time slot somewhere maybe for something [TS]

00:52:45   else but that's very rare like they don't usually I go to every time side [TS]

00:52:48   even even though I always comically pic wrong like I was always like you know [TS]

00:52:55   three or four different choices of like things that are going on during this [TS]

00:52:59   time slot but I'm kind of interested in it I might be interested in [TS]

00:53:02   I always pick the wrong 1 I'm always in the session that nobody else is in and [TS]

00:53:07   always liked not quite what I thought it would be and everyone who went to the [TS]

00:53:10   other ones that always awesome I'm just terrible choosing what to go to totally [TS]

00:53:16   right before we go any further about this let's think somebody else if we [TS]

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00:53:49   we upload them into the gallery things insert text between them and they want [TS]

00:53:52   to customize the the on click behavior and so Casey actually went in and wrote [TS]

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00:56:26   moments before we started recording tonight there was a bit of a bombshell [TS]

00:56:31   that John dropped John would you like to tell us about that I'm bombshell being [TS]

00:56:35   talked about on this podcast eight-month it's a bombshell John talking about it [TS]

00:56:40   it's the least surprising bombshell to the people who know you the best anyway [TS]

00:56:47   as I'm been discussing since I think publish my tenure so many review last [TS]

00:56:55   year and like I think this might be the last one [TS]

00:56:57   well now making it official two things are federal one actually posted [TS]

00:57:02   something that Co which hasn't happened since I love you and to posted there was [TS]

00:57:08   an expectation that I am NOT going to review whatever the next major version [TS]

00:57:11   of OS 10 presumably announced at WWDC turns out to be and I've explained why I [TS]

00:57:19   was thinking of stopping the reviews many many times in the show I kind of [TS]

00:57:24   tried to distill that explanation into a short little post that had been to the [TS]

00:57:29   road in 10 minutes before we started recording the show but you gotta go and [TS]

00:57:35   read it and i don't think there's anything really new to say I just feel [TS]

00:57:38   like I feel like I'm done with that I've done that [TS]

00:57:43   and I did it the best that I could do it and at a certain point the [TS]

00:57:50   the dread having to do it outweighs the joy of having done it and it kind of [TS]

00:57:56   crossed over that threshold around 10.9 ten-point 10 and like honestly 10.9 [TS]

00:58:01   probably would have been the last one except they didn't accept it was like [TS]

00:58:04   they didn't change to you I was so clear they were going to change the UI and it [TS]

00:58:08   really love round numbers since i said im gonna hold up for ten 10 and I'm [TS]

00:58:11   totally glad that I did I wrote 1010 known that are more or less be my last I [TS]

00:58:15   tried to end it the same amount of finality obviously it's you know nothing [TS]

00:58:19   is ever over like it will continue on and so forth but it's the end of the [TS]

00:58:23   road for me I think fifteen years you know ten-point 03 ten-point 10+2 bunch [TS]

00:58:28   of the developer you thought something other things I think I've got it covered [TS]

00:58:32   I think it did it and so now someone else can take over and like so much has [TS]

00:58:37   changed since I started writing the views when I started writing them I was [TS]

00:58:41   the only person writing anything about OS 10 before people even knew what it [TS]

00:58:44   was like you there [TS]

00:58:46   your Mac user and you didn't hear about this at all or you are not a Mac user he [TS]

00:58:51   didn't care what the hell Apple did aren't going out of business anyway who [TS]

00:58:53   cares right and so part of the reason I got any kind of notoriety was because I [TS]

00:58:59   would write these articles about the thing that people didn't even know it [TS]

00:59:02   existed they like OS X what I don't know like you can see from the first [TS]

00:59:07   paragraph look at my first 5 reviews are telling people the excess of Roman [TS]

00:59:10   numeral 10 which granted people still miss France including I've heard by the [TS]

00:59:15   way the audio version of this new Steve Jobs book the guy reads it is anyway no [TS]

00:59:21   excuse for that but back then people to know what it was like a UNIX and its I [TS]

00:59:24   magnin gotta come and my mom sure will ship with the command line is that [TS]

00:59:28   wouldn't be a Mac then I can just it was such a different world these days it's [TS]

00:59:34   covered like Iowa so you know it's not like there are tons of great reviews out [TS]

00:59:38   there [TS]

00:59:39   the idea of a long for tech nerd review that goes into obsessive detail is now [TS]

00:59:45   not a new idea [TS]

00:59:47   it's all over the place a lot of people are great added that feeling I'm not [TS]

00:59:51   needed anymore I feel like I've done what I had to do and people got covered [TS]

00:59:55   we moved on to scroll jacking animated video reviews and I am a dinosaur from [TS]

01:00:02   an earlier era the hardest thing about writing this this little summary of [TS]

01:00:07   doing any moralist interviews with that I end up having to link to my earlier [TS]

01:00:13   use and boy I cannot look at those like I say that that's the way it should be [TS]

01:00:19   with everything that's the way it is but I go back to the little ones like why [TS]

01:00:22   why did you think this was ready to be published like we didn't we didn't have [TS]

01:00:26   copywriters back then we didn't really have better to speak just we didn't know [TS]

01:00:31   what we were doing I didn't know what I was doing but definitely different world [TS]

01:00:35   so I but the bottom of the explanation I put links to all mailed within reviews [TS]

01:00:41   also released to the press releases and links to a couple of retrospectives a [TS]

01:00:44   retrospective about my reviews but I hit ten years worth of 10 reviews I did a [TS]

01:00:49   retrospective else had about five years five years of the OS and ten years of my [TS]

01:00:53   reviewing them and sending one of their own 15 so there are a lot of milestones [TS]

01:00:58   in there but you wanna check it out you can and this year I have no doubt you'll [TS]

01:01:04   have no problem finding some really excellent views as you have been able to [TS]

01:01:08   for the past several years and I'll talk about ATP's of you here have to say [TS]

01:01:13   about 10 ten-point 11 we're gonna call it you know where to come to say about [TS]

01:01:19   it I just want write-downs time let's get ahead of at least one or two [TS]

01:01:24   questions if somebody set up a Kickstarter to try to fund in by your [TS]

01:01:28   time in order to get you to write another review you will not accept that [TS]

01:01:33   money you will not do another review is the Kickstarter for a machine that will [TS]

01:01:36   actually pause time to review goes by in an instant and then that might be [TS]

01:01:43   possible but otherwise you can't you know time maybe money but money is not [TS]

01:01:47   time and like the whole idea as I say the interview when I decided that I'm [TS]

01:01:53   not doing this when I told her that I'm not gonna do the review for them or for [TS]

01:01:57   anybody else for that matter I was so relieved as I thought of the idea of a [TS]

01:02:01   summer I have a summer stretching out before me and that summer I won't be [TS]

01:02:06   just obsessing the entire summer over this one thing how am I gonna fit in how [TS]

01:02:09   many get it done how am I gonna work it through all like my vacations and kids [TS]

01:02:13   kids vacations will I get it done when is the OS gonna ship like that's what my [TS]

01:02:17   summers have been like and just the relief of being like this summer that's [TS]

01:02:21   not what it's gonna be like I just replace that stress with the difference [TS]

01:02:25   trust by doing about home renovations but anyway there's a spot free in my [TS]

01:02:29   stress pyramid right to make something else then put it in there and hopefully [TS]

01:02:34   it'll be a less stressful and the second thing is like wEDC the prospect of going [TS]

01:02:40   to WWC and not having to write a review [TS]

01:02:43   well it means that I'm not gonna get a press pass this year right so fine so I [TS]

01:02:46   don't get a lottery like last year I got a press pass from Apple if I don't get a [TS]

01:02:49   daughter is here I'm just you know tough luck right but the idea of being able to [TS]

01:02:54   go to WC and just go over to whatever the hell sessions I want and just just [TS]

01:02:58   enjoy them and not frantically take notes and not obsess about what I'm [TS]

01:03:01   gonna write about that is exciting and relaxing to me like going there is like [TS]

01:03:04   a civilian that that is very attractive to me that's all I know is time to stop [TS]

01:03:10   if I'm just like excited about all the things they're going to be different now [TS]

01:03:13   that I'm not writing it do you plan on doing some sort of small blog post for [TS]

01:03:17   your blog or some sort of quick impressions or anything like that [TS]

01:03:20   history has shown that I'm terrible at writing anything on my blog so I would [TS]

01:03:24   if you're going to bet on that I think it's a bet against the safe bet there I [TS]

01:03:30   will certainly will talk about it at length year right so that's you know [TS]

01:03:33   it's not like I don't have an outlet for my thoughts without but that this long [TS]

01:03:37   form writing thing that I do once a year I will talk about it on the podcast and [TS]

01:03:40   I won't know the thing that I get to enjoy it like in past years I've [TS]

01:03:44   intentionally held back my opinions about our stand on the podcast because [TS]

01:03:49   it's like well I'm saving it for either of you like why spoil the entire review [TS]

01:03:52   by talking about it for months and months on the body gets even though [TS]

01:03:55   apparently doesn't count [TS]

01:03:56   and in many people's minds and you can't but anyway now will just be able to talk [TS]

01:04:01   about it as things occurred to us and I won't be like hurting my insights for [TS]

01:04:05   this thirty thousand words thing that again the dump out and then after jumps [TS]

01:04:10   out trying to say [TS]

01:04:12   trying to like regular actively say let me explain to my thinking behind these [TS]

01:04:15   things and when I bought them then it will be nice to just be able to say [TS]

01:04:18   things as they come and I assume most of that will be on the podcast if I write [TS]

01:04:22   something on my site I suppose it could happen but you seem likely I have mixed [TS]

01:04:29   emotions about this era ending because I really have always enjoyed it even [TS]

01:04:34   before I knew you have always enjoyed your your reviews but now they do know [TS]

01:04:39   you and i've seen your stress built over the over the last few years especially I [TS]

01:04:46   can I can see both sides of it I can see both that now I really wish to continue [TS]

01:04:50   these i love reading them but also I see that it really does seem to be making [TS]

01:04:55   you miserable more and more each time and that every time like the last few [TS]

01:04:59   years every time you you say you would be writing 1 I'd be surprised that you [TS]

01:05:03   were still doing it because of how miserable it made you the year before [TS]

01:05:06   yeah I mean it's always been like it's not like it's gotten more miserable it's [TS]

01:05:11   always been kind of miserable but it's gonna be balanced by like would you feel [TS]

01:05:14   like you have something to say did you feel like there's something you and in [TS]

01:05:17   the beginning it was totally balanced out by like this is a crazy new thing [TS]

01:05:21   like UNIX and Mac and like racism was this big hairy mess no white boy got [TS]

01:05:25   things to say about this this is gonna replace the Mac they got a lot of work [TS]

01:05:28   to do right and they Barla straighten things out and I have my things that I [TS]

01:05:33   still complain about them find their and and you know all the different things on [TS]

01:05:37   the docket and the graphical stuff but like at a certain point like this can go [TS]

01:05:41   on forever or I gotta feel like that I've said what I have to say and like [TS]

01:05:46   it's time you know I'm not going to tell myself this point maybe the writing will [TS]

01:05:52   get better but like it's just a different world like Iowa so dominant [TS]

01:05:58   that didn't exist when I started and everything about Westin St written in [TS]

01:06:01   terms of IRS a half of my recent reviews are up [TS]

01:06:04   like half iOS reviews because you know features and its state in the entire [TS]

01:06:10   industry is a reflection of wherever iOS and you know I don't know I just [TS]

01:06:16   I'm sure there will come a time when they release a new version of 10 that is [TS]

01:06:21   such a radically different thing that'll be like oh man I would have I could have [TS]

01:06:25   written a review of that that would have returned to form or whatever but I just [TS]

01:06:31   need to expand my horizons like what kind of writer like this is part of the [TS]

01:06:34   bottom I just added at the last minute the bottom of this post to remind people [TS]

01:06:38   that my full-time job has never been as a technology writer my full-time job has [TS]

01:06:43   never been a podcaster like my full-time job as a programmer all this stuff I do [TS]

01:06:48   in the quote-unquote free time that I can carve out of my life with my family [TS]

01:06:52   and my real job and there's not a lot of that time as anyone who has children and [TS]

01:06:57   a wife and a regular nine-to-five job that they go to see how much time you [TS]

01:07:03   carve up for anything really any kind of hobby type thing and it does hobby [TS]

01:07:07   things end up be there like not being fun it's like well then when is your fun [TS]

01:07:13   time as I call my at my regular job have a podcasting job network podcasting job [TS]

01:07:17   I have my free time my freelance writing job now by family responsibilities and [TS]

01:07:21   it's like something that just wanna you know just relax and not have to do [TS]

01:07:26   anything and it's a balance like I mean I get paid for writing these things so [TS]

01:07:31   that's that's good and i enjoyed writing on the name joined have having written [TS]

01:07:34   them and podcasting is what has come to replace a lot of my writing because [TS]

01:07:39   honestly for me because I'm such a terribly slow writer takes less time to [TS]

01:07:43   talk on a podcast and so that the ratio of enjoyment to investment of time is [TS]

01:07:49   much better podcasting so I've been as I noted the thing I've been podcasting [TS]

01:07:52   like I did I tried to do the math didn't have time to do all the Google searching [TS]

01:07:55   my calendar to see I'm doing like 1.5 to podcast a week for the past 45 years or [TS]

01:08:02   something I'm practically I'm a fairly primitive podcaster at this point and it [TS]

01:08:09   takes away less time than doing a single August interview because just you know [TS]

01:08:13   we're just talking here right and you [TS]

01:08:15   show up and you talking though ATP think I'm not doing research like it makes it [TS]

01:08:19   sustainable and puts the balanced way on the side of enjoyment for podcast and [TS]

01:08:25   that's by design i mean that's that's like exactly why we do it this way and [TS]

01:08:29   and you know i i have a similar a similar battle as you might have like [TS]

01:08:34   when do I write a blog post vs when do I save it for the podcast like a blog [TS]

01:08:38   posts are a little bit easier but it's like you know the kind of like this is [TS]

01:08:41   the worst is yet to look up stuff you're going to Intel site you looking at the [TS]

01:08:44   back pages you're looking at benchmarks in again then what if you have to start [TS]

01:08:47   testing yourself it's so much easier to bang out like a three paragraph like the [TS]

01:08:50   thing that is right here salt pinion a couple installed stuff done and done [TS]

01:08:54   there's no fax there's no like things that you need to verify in prague [TS]

01:08:57   reviews of the worst you gotta verify things about an unreleased products from [TS]

01:09:01   the company that doesn't isn't really particularly communicative to you and [TS]

01:09:05   there's a deadline is just yet so there's this arrangement in writing but [TS]

01:09:09   I mean that I'm a slow writer no matter what I'm writing like I'm amazed that [TS]

01:09:12   even get this thing done in 10 minutes I'm just so close my eyes and typed in [TS]

01:09:15   like I would never have published that if I didn't have the podcast deadline [TS]

01:09:18   coming up and the shirts that we had to get up and that actually motivated me to [TS]

01:09:22   just hit the publish button but I would sound that the four more days [TS]

01:09:26   yeah I think a big a big part of what makes podcasting so much more attractive [TS]

01:09:33   or more efficient of time is as as as we talked about in a couple of shows like [TS]

01:09:39   this patient's of this medium are that it's a casual conversation and so like [TS]

01:09:44   like you know that I spoke in a couple of confidence recently and I talked to a [TS]

01:09:48   few people and and I i mentioned to a few people how Moses very very nervous [TS]

01:09:52   to give conference talks and I don't do it that often and if if somebody has [TS]

01:09:58   listened to the show that surprises them because here I don't generally sound [TS]

01:10:02   nervous and and and my reason for the difference there is that even though I [TS]

01:10:06   get a conference talk will be watched by a very small fraction of the number of [TS]

01:10:12   people who hear the show every week the expectations are extremely different for [TS]

01:10:19   each of those definitions of a conference talk that it is this like [TS]

01:10:24   totally pre-written rehearsed polished researched thing that is fully formed [TS]

01:10:30   beforehand and all the work as is you know thought through and done and then [TS]

01:10:34   it's presented to you as a complete polished product and a blog post has [TS]

01:10:39   been or was it has many of the same expectations that it's something this is [TS]

01:10:44   like a more formal kind of communication and more like structured researched more [TS]

01:10:51   finalized polished kind of thing that has higher standards applied to it if [TS]

01:10:56   you have much of an audience at all or any audience and reviews that you did [TS]

01:11:01   that seems like it would have been even higher even higher expectation they're [TS]

01:11:06   inherently of like the things you say better be correct [TS]

01:11:10   you better be seeing all sides of it you better it is better be complete [TS]

01:11:14   corrected polish and well done and I can totally understand why that would not [TS]

01:11:21   only stress you out a lot but why that is less and less appealing over time as [TS]

01:11:27   you have these other outlets like podcasting where district asians are so [TS]

01:11:33   different and so much more low-key or casual so that it's it's less of a time [TS]

01:11:39   commitment is less stress there's less pressure to have everything exactly [TS]

01:11:42   right that you ever say I totally get that and like the value the value like [TS]

01:11:49   if you were to carve out the newest interview and say what parts are [TS]

01:11:51   valuable to people it's it's shifted such that I think the parts that are the [TS]

01:11:55   hardest work had the least value like especially in the type of use either [TS]

01:12:00   because they really go your abuser in-depth technical but I was never like [TS]

01:12:03   at Tom's Hardware and Integra whatever where it's all about like benchmarks and [TS]

01:12:07   specs and whatever we love those are you that I love that somebody does that I [TS]

01:12:10   love that someone isn't me great because that is incredibly hard work and we [TS]

01:12:14   crave that info but we are few and dirty right and so most people the most then [TS]

01:12:19   that's the hardest part of their views to do it like getting that particular [TS]

01:12:22   details of tech or software or compatibility other things that I'm [TS]

01:12:27   honestly I can do because i dont have a computer [TS]

01:12:30   lab here like I only ever had to launder hardware 41 years review right I just [TS]

01:12:35   have the computer that I have and I do what I can and that was fine in the [TS]

01:12:38   early days of the web 10 knew what they were doing overall just like being on a [TS]

01:12:42   keyboard like monkeys trying to you know make something happen right but these [TS]

01:12:45   days they're professional organizations that like you know have people dedicated [TS]

01:12:51   to you know lab tests things and Mike are or experience doing battery tests [TS]

01:12:55   like what I had to do the testing for Mavericks like that was miserable and I [TS]

01:12:59   was no way in hell I did a good job as an Antec review like I couldn't you know [TS]

01:13:03   I don't have the experience those guys do it all the time they have a system [TS]

01:13:05   they have their own custom applications like they can test 17 different [TS]

01:13:09   computers against each other cuz they have all those computers so I couldn't [TS]

01:13:12   do that they don't have those computers and that's the hardest work and I think [TS]

01:13:16   it has the least value for people are reading my reviews because people who [TS]

01:13:19   read my reviews it's like they want me to get that right and it needs to be [TS]

01:13:22   there but they're reading it for like you know they certainly like criticism [TS]

01:13:28   more insight or historical context or also bike technical background on things [TS]

01:13:36   where its like you read my reviews because it kind of an aspirational thing [TS]

01:13:39   we're like I want to be the type of nerd who understands everything is your view [TS]

01:13:42   but I don't get so I can follow these links into it and they'll be a section [TS]

01:13:46   and you know five years ago by UNIX permissions and I'm not that familiar [TS]

01:13:50   with UNIX phenomenal time Mac user and I would like someone to explain to you [TS]

01:13:53   what the hell use machines are nestled in the middle of the big giant OST [TS]

01:13:56   interview that's how a lot of things people say hey remember if you remember [TS]

01:14:01   the section on whatever was the first time I learned about whatever it's like [TS]

01:14:05   I speak those things into the review and those are the fun parts to write about [TS]

01:14:08   is kind of like things that are a no well as background information for the [TS]

01:14:13   day or or you know talking about the UI Chris's and stuff like that those are [TS]

01:14:18   easier to write and that's where most of the value is but that other stuff is so [TS]

01:14:23   much harder to write in people seem to care less and less about it so I was you [TS]

01:14:27   know like the time of my style a review has come and gone and out it's one in [TS]

01:14:32   opposite directions where you have the super techno review which I never was [TS]

01:14:36   and the super soft touchy-feely review which I could kind of do but it actually [TS]

01:14:40   interests me a little bit less like I wanted to do [TS]

01:14:42   the the the format of my review in the way it sort of structured in the part [TS]

01:14:47   that makes kind of like a motley type thing where it's got all these parts you [TS]

01:14:51   wouldn't think mix together but that's next that I wanted and that's what I did [TS]

01:14:54   and I did it and we find that warm and I feel like that's it and I thought that [TS]

01:14:58   form has less value to the reader these days is less important to the reader and [TS]

01:15:03   it's less interesting to me because I feel like I've done it you know it makes [TS]

01:15:07   a lot of sense i mean you you you are more critical and you're on your own [TS]

01:15:11   work then I would venture to say probably anybody else in the audiences [TS]

01:15:16   but but I can I can see where you're coming from of like you know you've done [TS]

01:15:22   this it's done in time for something else [TS]

01:15:26   closely reviewing a single product or some like even if you even if I was like [TS]

01:15:29   I'm a full-time professional product review which I'm not and have never been [TS]

01:15:31   again but even if I was would you want to keep reviewing the same products like [TS]

01:15:35   year after year you do different things to different views like this is actually [TS]

01:15:39   my full-time job I would have grown tired of this logo because it was only [TS]

01:15:43   like a once yearly thing I could tolerate it for longer but it's like I [TS]

01:15:47   want some variety to it and said John said it wasn't that long ago that we [TS]

01:15:52   were making videos about getting our fingers ready to read review and now [TS]

01:15:59   it's the time long gone get your ears ready to hear me complain my ears are [TS]

01:16:05   always ready for that job [TS]

01:16:06   game and you just made an unintentional gaming reference congratulations Marco [TS]

01:16:13   this is the new twist on the John John makes a reference that nobody gets high [TS]

01:16:16   marks was making a reference that nobody yet including me are ready I feel [TS]

01:16:22   nothing [TS]

01:16:23   yeah I know you're not going to get you don't get it but you made it some of the [TS]

01:16:26   chat room while his ass like when when americans try to speak English to [TS]

01:16:30   non-english speakers are repeating themselves slowly and loudly now it's [TS]

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01:17:07   five bucks a month unlimited disk space I can't believe how they can do this I [TS]

01:17:11   don't know how cuz I have between me and my wife to get 10 bucks a month is the [TS]

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01:17:22   probably don't make money on us to be honest but they still offer it five [TS]

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01:18:34   with endeavour him and you don't but it is really nice to have as an ultimate [TS]

01:18:38   fail safe of like if everything they have all the equipment I have gets [TS]

01:18:43   harmed or stolen or somehow destroy hurt I have always have an online backup at a [TS]

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01:20:33   one more thing on backplate is it just the blog post that this year there are [TS]

01:20:38   always excellent Backblaze blog where they talk about their hard drive [TS]

01:20:41   failures and stuff I love those posts so this one was about my crop of Seagate 3 [TS]

01:20:46   terabyte drives they bought some time around the Thailand tsunami time and [TS]

01:20:52   it's just the investigation of ron is one thing but just a day by thousands of [TS]

01:20:58   drugs or Silurian and and they say in their experience eighty percent of the [TS]

01:21:01   drives they buy are still working for years after the bottom [TS]

01:21:05   but with this particular crop of drives just 10% of the drives were still [TS]

01:21:09   working for you so like they bought a bunch of him was like ok and all of a [TS]

01:21:14   sudden like around you to that kid massive amounts of the failed ones like [TS]

01:21:17   the nightmare scenario you know you buy are driving to go to bed before you [TS]

01:21:20   think it does they bought thousands of hard drives like ninety percent of them [TS]

01:21:25   are dead and four years that is topped with a great blog post about the lack of [TS]

01:21:28   the show what else do you want to talk about about WBC I guess they like to get [TS]

01:21:35   back to the area so how does my decision it does affect it because it's like if I [TS]

01:21:39   don't you know when a lottery I'm not gonna get a press pass press pass [TS]

01:21:45   through our state takeover I was right before my doing that again this year and [TS]

01:21:49   messed up on a press pass for ADB which while they slept but anyway I don't have [TS]

01:21:54   a reason to be there other than recreation and seeing people right and [TS]

01:21:59   so that changes my calculus of whether I would go or not because it is no [TS]

01:22:05   quote-unquote work-related reason for me to be there will be entirely social on [TS]

01:22:09   vacation really I want to go to the sessions I want to get that experience [TS]

01:22:12   you'll be able to go there and enjoy them without having like homework so to [TS]

01:22:18   speak so that does factor into my decision of whether I will go out there [TS]

01:22:23   for a shorter period of time that the whole time or not at all if I don't [TS]

01:22:27   happen to get it it's also I think it will change everyone's calculus also [TS]

01:22:31   that hotel prices seem to have gone up this year noticeable like everything is [TS]

01:22:37   more expensive because yeah like the plane ticket counters gonna be terrible [TS]

01:22:41   to but I didn't already buy my plane tickets I'm waiting to see if I get ya [TS]

01:22:46   mean like usually for this thing usually the hotel is the biggest costs often [TS]

01:22:51   matching or surpassing the cost of the conference ticket itself so you're [TS]

01:22:55   looking like $2000 for the hotel for the week and it's 600 for the ticket you [TS]

01:23:01   know the plan to get better look at another four to eight hundred depending [TS]

01:23:05   on may be more forthcoming internationally so you're looking at [TS]

01:23:08   $4,500 worth of base cost here plus expenses you incur while you're there [TS]

01:23:15   plus you get sick vacation days so I can totally see why this would make as these [TS]

01:23:22   costs go up and I'm not getting this money back like ours would pay for my [TS]

01:23:25   travel and my ticket or in the case of press pass you know Apple gave the [TS]

01:23:29   ticket like there is no reimbursement [TS]

01:23:31   I'm will go out of pocket for like despite the fact that is fine but like [TS]

01:23:36   it all factors in yeah I mean I I hope we can get you there will be a shame if [TS]

01:23:41   you were not there yet however for people who choose not to go because it's [TS]

01:23:46   very expensive I totally can understand that well we'll see you don't let me [TS]

01:23:51   I've been thinking about is what happens if John you don't get a ticket if Marco [TS]

01:23:59   you don't get a ticket and then I get a ticket because we've already established [TS]

01:24:02   earlier in this show that I don't do well with missing ahead thanks [TS]

01:24:07   apparently this is like a new discovery for me but but i dont I almost wonder if [TS]

01:24:13   that would be not worse but Dad I mean I would still absolutely go to the [TS]

01:24:17   conference I would still try to learn as much as I can because I enjoy it so much [TS]

01:24:21   I always get I always feel like so amped up on the way home about all the awesome [TS]

01:24:25   new stuff I've learned about what's coming from Apple but I would really to [TS]

01:24:30   some degree I would be a little bit bombed if if I was the only one that got [TS]

01:24:35   a ticket because then I'd be missing out on all the fun things that maybe you [TS]

01:24:40   guys would be doing her just Marco or whatever in so I wouldn't be doing any [TS]

01:24:43   fun things things would be doing no I mean I think what happened is that if [TS]

01:24:50   John is gonna take it is not going to mean it's very [TS]

01:24:53   I bet that's what happens if I don't get a ticket then I'll go and I'll see you [TS]

01:25:00   at night and then I will walk by you and the quinoline at 9:30 a.m. when I have [TS]

01:25:06   just woken up and I have a fresh cup of coffee with you don't like any way I [TS]

01:25:10   look fresh and no vodka or whatever you drink whatever it's something to make [TS]

01:25:15   you jealous that's what the old people do [TS]

01:25:19   until 5 a.m. wake up drunk like wEDC yeah they they they can stream the [TS]

01:25:27   keynote live at 10 a.m. when they have just woken up for that purpose and not [TS]

01:25:32   having woken up at like 530 so that's what will happen you will you will do [TS]

01:25:37   the homework for the rest of us [TS]

01:25:39   by going to the conference and get going to the sessions and I mean I I would [TS]

01:25:44   feel bad I if I get a ticket and you don't like that I would feel guilty if I [TS]

01:25:51   gotta take a nude it because you can make a very reasonable argument then you [TS]

01:25:54   deserve it more and I'm giving air quotes here but if you could make a very [TS]

01:26:00   valid argument that you are actively developing iOS apps you should have the [TS]

01:26:04   ticket more than I should like I was talking to a friend under for David [TS]

01:26:08   Smith about this how much more valued you get out of being there in person [TS]

01:26:12   then if you could watch the sessions as they live stream and and do that and so [TS]

01:26:17   the biggest value is there some socialization aspect of seeing people in [TS]

01:26:22   the conference center in and the various like spontaneous meeting you have their [TS]

01:26:26   academically the biggest value is probably the labs did there are some [TS]

01:26:30   sessions that are not live streamed or videoed like the lunchtime sessions are [TS]

01:26:35   usually not leaving video and the videos also videos [TS]

01:26:38   edit out any periods of applause or laughter and usually the video as usual [TS]

01:26:43   you can't see the presenter it only shows like it's just video of the slides [TS]

01:26:47   and and a any demos at a place so you do miss a lot of the nuances of the [TS]

01:26:54   presentation before the most part you're missing the socialization and the labs [TS]

01:26:59   and I had very good experiences in the lab so far however this year I don't [TS]

01:27:06   really have like any really big pressing questions a half of the lab right now [TS]

01:27:10   are you want to know how to make overcast for the new Apple TV [TS]

01:27:14   yeah yeah we'll see if that's it that's a good thing but in reality like if if I [TS]

01:27:20   get a ticket I'll be very happy I'll use it as much as I possibly can use a [TS]

01:27:24   ticket if I don't get a ticket I will be bombed [TS]

01:27:29   but I will still have a really good week you know yeah yeah it but it it does it [TS]

01:27:34   is kind of inconvenient if you go with with a group of friends or co-workers [TS]

01:27:39   every year it is it is really awkward that like that ever since [TS]

01:27:44   demands are really outstripping supply a couple years ago now you have these like [TS]

01:27:48   split crews were like you have a well only one of us got it nor everyone that [TS]

01:27:54   is except that one guy like it's it's it's certainly causes social pressures [TS]

01:27:59   and then like weird weird things I think this is where pays off to be anti-social [TS]

01:28:03   because social interpreter in her element when we are not in a group buy a [TS]

01:28:09   sad to splinter off on my own and go through a series of myself and not talk [TS]

01:28:13   to anybody that's paradise when you are because you would always go to like the [TS]

01:28:18   Mac only sessions that nobody else went to like that nobody in those rooms [TS]

01:28:22   anymore just me and a bunch on lonely Mac Developer now those are fun you know [TS]

01:28:28   you like the did not well populated ones are great you be sitting there quick [TS]

01:28:32   video would come in and sit two seats over to you you know like just a cyst [TS]

01:28:36   side people here listenin to the talk about free market don't cares about [TS]

01:28:40   because I S is the new hotness right I will I think it's important to point out [TS]

01:28:45   though that for the last couple of years I feel like the three of us who spent a [TS]

01:28:50   fair bit of time [TS]

01:28:52   critiquing and really complaining about the WDC ticket process and granted we're [TS]

01:28:58   not all bitter right now because we don't know how many tickets are not but [TS]

01:29:02   I think this is probably as good a process as they can really get for a [TS]

01:29:07   situation where like Marco said demand desperately outweighs the supply while [TS]

01:29:14   there was a rumor about them using a bigger venue to remember that they go [TS]

01:29:17   they're going to use north and south and west and and therefore the supply will [TS]

01:29:21   be slightly increased and that turns out not to be the case as far as we know [TS]

01:29:24   right that's correct i mean that would be good but that would potentially [TS]

01:29:29   change the feeling of the show the show you know I don't i think im coming [TS]

01:29:35   across a little snobby and get off my lawn and you know what a while but part [TS]

01:29:40   of the magic W W ABC is that it's the right amount of people I think so that [TS]

01:29:47   when you have like when we go I know I personally know maybe fifty people [TS]

01:29:52   they're generally speaking and it's not unreasonable or rare for me to see most [TS]

01:29:58   of those fifty people in and out of the sessions throughout the day and if it's [TS]

01:30:01   if the conference was ten times bigger just for argument's sake then I may not [TS]

01:30:06   see those people and just like you've been saying market you know part of the [TS]

01:30:09   beauty of WBC is those impromptu conversations that you have with friends [TS]

01:30:13   that you doin don't know in the halls in between sessions and so I'm sure it [TS]

01:30:19   would probably be for the greater good if it was bigger but it would definitely [TS]

01:30:21   feel different if it was bigger yeah I mean you know ultimately it's it's what [TS]

01:30:27   you make of it and if you go in it it's such a big community now that like [TS]

01:30:33   anything that any of us say about it is is not representative of the whole you [TS]

01:30:39   know there's so many people who are iOS developers there are so many people [TS]

01:30:43   there who who we don't know who don't know us who aren't isn't just one big [TS]

01:30:50   community it's a bunch of small communities so if you go and seek out a [TS]

01:30:55   certain group or your friends or you know people you want to talk to her or [TS]

01:30:59   have business discussions with whatever you can find them if you're looking [TS]

01:31:04   around randomly in front of Moscone looking for somebody in particular you'd [TS]

01:31:09   have a hard time with it but that's true whether you get it or not that's true [TS]

01:31:12   whether you know how many people there and not really I think it's what you [TS]

01:31:16   make of it that made no sense thanks let two or three sponsors this week [TS]

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01:31:27   now the show they didn't even mean to begin accidental accidental John [TS]

01:31:39   case [TS]

01:31:43   it was accidental and you can tell a team are cool [TS]

01:32:26   so in the last week Apple has done all this crazy stuff with the launch and [TS]

01:32:34   trials and we're all talking AB and meanwhile they also like solved photos [TS]

01:32:39   today and that's like the least pay attention to say that they saw the [TS]

01:32:45   photos I haven't used that heavily yet however I did import model library and [TS]

01:32:50   it seems amazing were not supposed to be talking about an hour if they have next [TS]

01:32:53   week I just think it's funny like photos like it's it's like this massive [TS]

01:32:59   challenge this big problem of like no one's done this really right yet and it [TS]

01:33:04   looks like Apple might have done exactly that and released this week and almost [TS]

01:33:08   nobody noticed there was a lot of reviews about it a lot of previews for [TS]

01:33:12   anything Apple's good about you know but the public beta of it and the Beta Club [TS]

01:33:18   photo library and then when it actually came out like I felt like it was pretty [TS]

01:33:21   well covered but it is one of the topics that will keep because this is like a [TS]

01:33:25   long term thing and we've talked about photos forever and we've talked about [TS]

01:33:28   photos in the future said it provides and now is just down to like okay the [TS]

01:33:31   thing came out how does it work [TS]

01:33:33   save that for next week has made things to say about it and I made these nice [TS]

01:33:37   notes and we'll just leave them in there but one thing the draft generator thing [TS]

01:33:45   right this may or may not make it in the final show kinda boring but I was [TS]

01:33:50   curious year input from the two of you so I wrote recently a draft generator [TS]

01:33:58   for my site so the idea is when I write for my site on my primary computer I [TS]

01:34:04   haven't in an instance of note running an instance of my entire site running on [TS]

01:34:08   my local computers so alright a bit I'll go to Safari or refresh the page see how [TS]

01:34:13   it works but occasionally not often but occasionally I will be writing a blog [TS]

01:34:17   post on my iPad or on parents computer or something else that I can't even [TS]

01:34:23   think of and I want to be able to preview exactly how this marked down [TS]

01:34:31   will look rendered on the site so I wrote this draft generator which all it [TS]

01:34:37   is is a big huge toy [TS]

01:34:38   area and a button that says render draft the pace year marked down in the big [TS]

01:34:43   textarea hit the render draft button and it will render the draft and it looks at [TS]

01:34:48   a glance like it's a real post now because it looks like a real post I [TS]

01:34:55   don't necessarily want to make this draft generator public in that I don't [TS]

01:35:02   want anyone to be able to slam some marked down onto my site and make it [TS]

01:35:06   look like I wrote something and I being paranoid absolutely but just bear with [TS]

01:35:10   me here so what do I do to prevent malicious use for something that really [TS]

01:35:17   is fairly inane to begin with what I've chosen to do is use a semi peculiar URL [TS]

01:35:23   that I know I'll remember but I don't think people would necessarily stumble [TS]

01:35:28   on so it's you know the textbook security by obscurity but I was curious [TS]

01:35:34   I don't wanna do like a fallen off system because it's just a draft who [TS]

01:35:38   cares but what info on just two basic off that's an idea maybe it's better [TS]

01:35:44   than nothing right will be by bother because it has basic auth is better than [TS]

01:35:49   security through obscurity slightly but you know he's not even using HTTPS like [TS]

01:35:55   whatever but you know it's like they won't get my euro and that's when i was [TS]

01:36:01   just curious if if you guys had any more interesting and more clever and less [TS]

01:36:05   obvious you could do real I mean you wrote the code for the site to reel off [TS]

01:36:10   on it do it like that the fund will exercise if you wanna do that basic [TS]

01:36:14   authors like you don't have to read the code word as little as your browser do [TS]

01:36:17   the thing that it does any basic auth with https is like really no worse than [TS]

01:36:23   a lot of systems to help you know it's fun it's fun to do yourself a lie I [TS]

01:36:27   think the main thing I was think of anything else like different computers [TS]

01:36:30   is the use case here but this is the type of thing I do offline like of my my [TS]

01:36:35   hypercritical posting system as I write in BBEdit and next to the BB anyone know [TS]

01:36:39   that I'm ready in a real-time live preview with my site template showing at [TS]

01:36:43   exactly how looking contacts on my site [TS]

01:36:45   the magic of BB and its preview filters and templates and all the other crazy as [TS]

01:36:49   it has to be I don't have to click a button to render draft as I'm typing I [TS]

01:36:54   see exactly what it's going to look like right next to where I'm typing in real [TS]

01:36:58   time [TS]

01:36:58   right that's basically what I'm doing 99% of the time it's not real time I [TS]

01:37:03   have to go and hit refresh but that's basically what it is but what happened [TS]

01:37:08   was I had written the Apple watch post I believe on my iPad if memory serves and [TS]

01:37:14   I had done my best to guess at what it would look like by just looking at a [TS]

01:37:19   marked a generic markdown preview but as it turns out there were a couple of [TS]

01:37:23   minor formatting issues here and there that I really wanted to tweak including [TS]

01:37:27   an image that went wrong and so I really want to be able to see it on the site [TS]

01:37:32   and so again what I know I figure I'll just eat the markdown run it through the [TS]

01:37:36   rendering pipeline and call today but even though I don't think anyone would [TS]

01:37:42   likely do anything nefarious with this it's still I feel little exposed by [TS]

01:37:47   having it out there and I guess basic auth is really the right answer and god [TS]

01:37:51   knows there's probably if it's a built-in to know there's probably some [TS]

01:37:54   300,000 line package I can get from solve this problem for me but I don't [TS]

01:38:00   know you just read the header and I think it's pretty simple if you need to [TS]

01:38:04   do it yourself it's not that that's true I don't know just how was curious if you [TS]

01:38:08   had any clever ideas or if you thought I was being insane for even trying to put [TS]

01:38:13   this behind off my question is when the holder the navigation item in your [TS]

01:38:17   toolbar change to creep it's always been there also why I keep crashing your site [TS]

01:38:25   don't don't have nothing in the field and it ended regular jobs get there [TS]

01:38:28   first and yeah I I can't I can't get anything to to render that's part of the [TS]

01:38:34   problem is that you probably aren't missing meditated see in this was [TS]

01:38:37   designed only for me so you're probably missing a bunch of metadata that I know [TS]

01:38:43   to include but nobody else would get back to create twice that item call to [TS]

01:38:48   creep you trying to say that by by anyone wanting to know about anything [TS]

01:38:52   that you do that is creepy and therefore click the Create button to find out what [TS]

01:38:56   podcast you've appeared [TS]

01:38:57   that creepy I just wanted something more interesting than appearances did you [TS]

01:39:01   click the link to just be with the sluggish start it's not stalking you [TS]

01:39:05   want people wasn't the iPod guests do you want that to happen that's why [TS]

01:39:11   you're on podcast and now for a regularly scheduled segment of making [TS]

01:39:14   fun of cases website implementation details [TS]

01:39:17   yes [TS]

01:39:21   faith would not put creep is one of the main items guarantee that's probably I [TS]

01:39:26   see I think it's tongue-in-cheek in funny but I can see what you're saying [TS]

01:39:30   that maybe that doesn't come across exactly how I just under cutting your [TS]

01:39:33   self Casey we're going to tell you that when you should not be have we met of [TS]

01:39:36   course you and Steve the podcast see who can undercut themselves the most and I [TS]

01:39:45   think that's the plan at some point I think you haven't beaten double make you [TS]

01:39:49   feel better and well the chat room is somewhat coming to my defense but by [TS]

01:40:00   your logic is is is sound for sure it is an expression of your personality I give [TS]

01:40:05   you that but I feel like this like you don't need to be you don't need to be [TS]

01:40:08   self-deprecating you don't need to be sabotaging yourself or should be [TS]

01:40:14   promoting yourself this site is all about you it's Casey list dot com for [TS]

01:40:17   cryin out loud should be all about the awesome things that make a deal as does [TS]

01:40:22   how awesome there but what would you use if not appearances which not only as a [TS]

01:40:27   long word but it's what everyone uses and I wanted to be slightly original I [TS]

01:40:31   don't know I mean what options there you just I have my appearances off of my [TS]

01:40:36   About page I don't have the top of my head but I don't I would say there's [TS]

01:40:40   nothing wrong with the word appearances because like it like if that's what I'm [TS]

01:40:44   looking for [TS]

01:40:45   I would never think to click on a link that says creep that's interesting point [TS]

01:40:49   yeah I wouldn't know what that was going to be as I get my going to see a creep [TS]

01:40:52   it to say that I am [TS]

01:40:55   hamburger navigation is a is a verb it's like do I want to creep right now it is [TS]

01:41:01   it is meant as of her actually all kidding aside you don't like the kids [TS]

01:41:04   these days but that's like that's like it's like creeping forward the type that [TS]

01:41:08   likes cats I don't know that I don't necessarily know the kids will be kids [TS]

01:41:11   will get with the creepy I got was about to buy maybe so on because I know KCNA [TS]

01:41:15   know what must be buried under that link actually T T E pass a budget that said [TS]

01:41:22   elsewhere that's not bad [TS]

01:41:25   appearances i think is more direct but elsewhere isn't a bad option appearances [TS]

01:41:30   like you just did a conference talk like that's an appearance [TS]

01:41:34   yea certainly looks good to me right gotta try that at some point I thought [TS]

01:41:40   there was way too long it may have to look for shorter word to go to Zara [TS]

01:41:45   something they may be tutsis obviously did you know I note package for that we [TS]

01:41:50   put the pictures pictures of celebrities in unflattering poses that he will come [TS]

01:41:54   out more or less than the creepy manifestation to the authorities for [TS]

01:41:59   speaking of creeping manifestation ok have been shopping for home improvement [TS]

01:42:07   things online shopping for lamps outdoor lamps online shopping but it's like [TS]

01:42:13   looking searching everything and now every web page I go to is covered with [TS]

01:42:18   the same nine hundred pictures of lamps that I don't understand why I never knew [TS]

01:42:23   how pervasive whatever it is this ad network that has my number now it's like [TS]

01:42:27   on every site I like here too seriously the lamps they're here again they're [TS]

01:42:31   everywhere it is unbelievable and the same plants like I've already looked at [TS]

01:42:35   the images like you know I'm just gonna have to enable ad blockers something [TS]

01:42:40   like now I understand that people who like their ugly I liked it better when I [TS]

01:42:44   was being randomly advertised with whatever they were doing before I head [TS]

01:42:47   still beat the terrible line drawings of one weird trick [TS]

01:42:52   fat belly business things I really hate lamps are are close second and the web [TS]

01:42:59   sixties it so badly all this stuff it just seems like everyone such [TS]

01:43:05   desperation to try to increase their ad prices and and their returns and web [TS]

01:43:12   pages just look awful to me now like so many people go to know there's very few [TS]

01:43:17   hold out that still have like tasteful reasonable layouts and don't have those [TS]

01:43:23   like those awful click paid ads on everything it's really sad I i just want [TS]

01:43:28   to see like ads show me like ad for like Asus laptops like SSDs like I'm willing [TS]

01:43:33   to like some I don't quit on them but I look at them and sometimes like yeah [TS]

01:43:37   maybe RSS these are getting cheaper like this the ads work in that way but I know [TS]

01:43:42   that i've been searching for this but that doesn't mean that did your whole [TS]

01:43:44   world is lamps that eventually I'm going to buy some lamps and then I will be [TS]

01:43:50   done but it adds stability clamp lamp everywhere it is just unbelievably [TS]

01:43:56   pervasive I never would have called I am going to bed every site I go to every [TS]

01:44:01   link I Tappan like Twitter or something [TS]

01:44:04   lamps creep I've never in the past been tempted to install an ad blocker [TS]

01:44:11   modern web pages are are getting so bad and modern advocating even more more [TS]

01:44:16   intrusive but there's so many more like hover over popover kind of things now [TS]

01:44:20   that like it was the page 42 seconds then it pops over thing over the content [TS]

01:44:25   and you just miss it like a good luck and good luck getting the Lex with your [TS]

01:44:28   finger yeah anything that is not the ex is I want to go to the ads website yeah [TS]

01:44:34   exactly I mean it's so it's getting so bad now it's even sites that used to be [TS]

01:44:39   that used to have higher standards now for whatever reason whether it's good [TS]

01:44:44   reasons or not they they don't know they can't maintain those same standards and [TS]

01:44:49   so like otherwise good sites now have these even worse ads on its getting so [TS]

01:44:55   horrible like I i i don't i don't like the idea of running a blog I've never [TS]

01:45:01   been closer to doing it then I A [TS]

01:45:03   just because it is really getting difficult to read the web it's weird [TS]

01:45:09   because I write software for the web for a living but when i search for lamps and [TS]

01:45:15   find lamps all over every and enabled web site I ever visit he creeps me out [TS]

01:45:21   creep me out yeah it's weird and now I'm thinking even more than I need to change [TS]

01:45:27   the word creep on my what about sightings dieting doesn't work for audio [TS]

01:45:34   but most of your appearances are you not Bigfoot [TS]

01:45:38   wow I'm gonna watch Loch Ness [TS]

01:45:43   what you want is a word that is descriptive but that is not like [TS]

01:45:47   arrogant pompous sounding how it works that is there gonna be my best arrogant [TS]

01:45:55   pompous I like elsewhere because it is not arrogant pumps appearances is a [TS]

01:46:01   little bit on that on the bedside of that it's not it's accurate he just gave [TS]

01:46:05   a conference talk that is literally in appearance but like sightings is is more [TS]

01:46:11   arrogant deciding his like other people have done this for other people [TS]

01:46:15   spotted me and these are places you know where is like appearance as a here's [TS]

01:46:19   where I have been and people looked at me and elsewhere is just hears of the [TS]

01:46:24   things I have done now although as think diff is pointing out much at the title [TS]

01:46:29   of the pages appearances coincidentally but I wanted a different word in the [TS]

01:46:34   header and I think elsewhere might be the winner of the problem is we leave [TS]

01:46:37   this in the shower by the time everyone goes looks at my website can be like [TS]

01:46:41   what are they talking about it he says hi or whatever the case may be but [TS]

01:46:45   that's alright [TS]